Trump Wants to “Open Up” the Country by Easter

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That’s in two weeks, folks.

Every scientific and medical expert in the US is warning that this would be a disaster on an unimaginable scale. But we now have a president who makes decisions based on his “gut feelings,” and those feelings always center around what would be best for him.

It’s a pretty simple calculation for Trump. The longer things stay shut down, the more it harms the economy, Trump’s corrupt businesses and his reelection chances.

It’s unclear how much he can actually do to “open up” the economy, because much of the decision-making power in this case belongs to individual states. But he’s found ways around that before.

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Mescalero09  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:58:12am

Somewhere Putin smiles to himself.

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lawhawk  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:59:59am

Businesses were on the leading edge of shutting businesses, working from home, closing restaurant chains, going delivery, etc., and making necessary moves because Trump wasn’t doing any of it.

States and localities were also far more likely to move to shut things down to reduce the spread, but it was haphazard in manner. States that still aren’t taking action will reap what they’re sowing with an overflow of cases per capita as compared to the states that tried to take aggressive steps.

It’ll be weeks before we know if NY and CA were able to slow things in those states, but the cases keep doubling every 2-3 days, and testing is still being rationed. That is the tell that this isn’t under control and there’s no way to control this as you can’t control what you aren’t seeing.

Trump’s dumbfuckery will leave a huge body count for all to see, but the GOP will find ways to ignore all of it. Voters shouldn’t. Not when the body count and case trackers continue doubling.

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:02:10am

re: #1 Mescalero09

Somewhere Putin smiles to himself.

It seems that Putin is now busy:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:02:38am

He wants this to be a Easter miracle so he can act like he’s Christlike.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:03:19am

re: #3 Belafon

It seems that Putin is now busy:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:03:40am

This is also about Trump’s own businesses…if they are not bringing revenues, then he may be forced into bankruptcy, which would look really bad on him.

That would also explain the need for a hush-hush slush fund.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:04:21am

re: #2 lawhawk

Businesses were on the leading edge of shutting businesses, working from home, closing restaurant chains, going delivery, etc., and making necessary moves because Trump wasn’t doing any of it.

States and localities were also far more likely to move to shut things down to reduce the spread, but it was haphazard in manner. States that still aren’t taking action will reap what they’re sowing with an overflow of cases per capita as compared to the states that tried to take aggressive steps.

It’ll be weeks before we know if NY and CA were able to slow things in those states, but the cases keep doubling every 2-3 days, and testing is still being rationed. That is the tell that this isn’t under control and there’s no way to control this as you can’t control what you aren’t seeing.

Trump’s dumbfuckery will leave a huge body count for all to see, but the GOP will find ways to ignore all of it. Voters shouldn’t. Not when the body count and case trackers continue doubling.

No matter how bad it gets, even if there are people literally dying in the streets, wingnuts will go the polls in November repeating the same mantra to themselves again and again: “It could have been worse.” Millions dead, economic depression, cats and dogs living together? They’ll be convinced that Trump’s leadership kept it from being “worse” and thus he deserves another 4 years.

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William Lewis  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:04:36am

Fuck it. Time to read The Dresden Files and listen to Blue Oyster Cult.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:04:37am
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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:05:36am

I want to hear from WHO and CDC when we should open. And how. Any other outlook is compromised by something. Mine is, keep our deaths under a million. First things first.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:05:37am

re: #1 Mescalero09

Somewhere Putin smiles to himself.

Putin has a full plate, I think. The coronavirus outbreak is probably an F5 shitnado over in Russia.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:06:07am

Never trust a man that live broadcasts his vasectomy on the radio (Texas Lt Gov Dan Patrick did this).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:06:48am

re: #11 Dr Lizardo

Putin has a full plate, I think. The coronavirus outbreak is probably an F5 shitnado over in Russia.

in a country where oil prices are tumbling and the entire public health-care system itself is on life support

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:08:52am

Business opens back up, invites people in knowing they are at risk but not saying anything, people get sick and die.

Nope, no lawsuit risk here. None at all. Totally kosher.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:09:34am

I’m sure Trump is concerned about his businesses, but I think his reelection is more important to him. If he isn’t reelected he’ll almost certainly be immediately indicted for a host of crimes by NY state and others. He wants to keep that presidential immunity for as long as he can.

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BigPapa  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:10:28am

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Bingo.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:12:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:12:32am

re: #15 Charles Johnson

I’m sure Trump is concerned about his businesses, but I think his reelection is more important to him.

again, though, imagine how bad it would look if he has to declare bankruptcy while still in office…

that would sink him for good

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:13:27am

re: #18 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We should be that lucky.

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:14:50am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

“Established death panels.” So, following Republican doctrine.
16K ventilators. Still not enough.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:14:59am

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

The Insurance industry is going to help keep the economy shut down. Look for insurance companies to start denying coverage from Covoid-19 illness or lawsuits en mass. No insurance = businesses will not operate for fear of being sued out of existence or from being able to file any business operations losses stemming from this pandemic.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:15:31am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

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Oh fuck this.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:18:30am

Top COVID-19 aspirants chloroquine, AbbVie’s Kaletra and a flu drug disappoint in clinical tests.

Malaria drug chloroquine, AbbVie’s HIV combo therapy Kaletra and an influenza med called Arbidol are among top candidates that physicians are repurposing for the treatment of COVID-19. Despite backing from officials, though, the three have disappointed separately in two Chinese clinical trials of mild patients.

Hydroxychloroquine, a more tolerable form of chloroquine, didn’t top placebo at clearing the coronavirus among mild Chinese patients, or helping them reach normal temperature sooner, Evercore ISI analyst Umer Raffat noted in a Tuesday memo.

Separately, neither Kaletra—a combination of HIV antivirals lopinavir and ritonavir—nor Arbidol (umifenovir) delivered benefits in viral clearance or symptom relief compared with no antiviral treatment in a small Chinese study in mild-to-moderate COVID-19 patients, results published Monday on the preprint site medRxiv show.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:18:32am

re: #15 Charles Johnson

I’m sure Trump is concerned about his businesses, but I think his reelection is more important to him. If he isn’t reelected he’ll almost certainly be immediately indicted for a host of crimes by NY state and others. He wants to keep that presidential immunity for as long as he can.

In the minds of wingnuts, the point where it all started to go “wrong” was when the experts began pushing for social distancing and limits began being imposed upon businesses. Sports/concerts got canceled, entertainment venues started closing or restricting the number of customers, restaurants and bars followed suit, and every new limit just led to more until now it’s a limit of 10 people and whole states/cities are closing.

Wingnuts genuinely believe that Trump’s gonna come out in the next 2 weeks, declare “American Reopened!,” and everything will just go back to “normal.” That governments will have to comply, businesses will just go along with the “order,” and people will go back on with their lives.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:18:35am

re: #21 Florida Panhandler

I agree 100%.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:20:38am
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:20:42am

re: #23 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Top COVID-19 aspirants chloroquine, AbbVie’s Kaletra and a flu drug disappoint in clinical tests.

So far, everything I’d see says the drugs only really seemed to be effective in the most severe cases. The idea that they’re either all-purpose cures or even (as I’ve seen some wingnuts suggest) preventatives is wishful thinking.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:22:00am

re: #21 Florida Panhandler

Liability insurers will probably call Covid-19 an “Act of God” of some such thing.

Health insurers - they are going to be strapped. Initially they said covid-19 won’t be that impactful, because elective surgeries still covered under insurance would be put off until the pandemic is over, and apparently the insurers think that will offset the cost of covering covid-19.

But I suspect the insurers are not expecting an Italy-style overwhelming of the system.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:22:02am

re: #23 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

LIES.

What about the Floridian that got better? Anecdote >> double-blind clinical trial.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:22:19am

re: #27 Targetpractice

So far, everything I’d see says the drugs only really seemed to be effective in the most severe cases. The idea that they’re either all-purpose cures or even (as I’ve seen some wingnuts suggest) preventatives is wishful thinking.

He has fallen back on that: a Hail Mary to get him out of this and praised as savior.

So now he will go for the “Easter Resurrection” ploy

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:22:39am

re: #8 William Lewis

Fuck it. Time to read The Dresden Files and listen to Blue Oyster Cult.

Don’t Fear the Reaper.

Blue Oyster Cult - (Don’t Fear) The Reaper (Audio)

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:25:42am

Flying pig moment. I agree with Liz Cheney.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:25:54am

re: #31 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Don’t Fear the Reaper.

After having heard that song a zillion times (it was one of those albums you could not escape hearing in the dorm rooms at Indiana University), I recall listening it to once years later, alone and late at night, and gosh, it really is spine-tinglingly eerie.

Gave me a right case of the willies.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:27:03am

US up to 100 reported deaths today.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:27:30am

I can’t even.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:27:43am

re: #13 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

in a country where oil prices are tumbling and the entire public health-care system itself is on life support

Well the Russian Orthodox Church has been lining up seniors to kiss icons this whole time, refusing to change worship practices.

So yeah, they’re fucked.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:28:13am
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:28:44am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

I can’t even.

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“Rally ‘round the flag” effect.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:28:57am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

It sounds like someone is cooking those books.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:29:08am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Note those numbers are dwarfed by how people rallied around GWB after 9/11.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:29:29am

re: #34 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

US up to 100 reported deaths today.

Germany has 143 total since first reported case on Jan 27th (currently 32K cases reported)

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:30:04am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

I can’t even.

Trump’s probably getting credit for local repsonse.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:30:07am

After tomorrow, Wednesday, there will be more Covid-19 deaths this week than the peak week of deaths by flu for this season.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:31:09am

re: #39 PhillyPretzel

It sounds like someone is cooking those books.

Americans are largely overly optimistic fucking idiots and psychologically cannot yet admit to themselves how utterly he’s bollocksed up everything.

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makeitstop  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:31:18am

re: #40 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Note those numbers are dwarfed by how people rallied around GWB after 9/11.

And it took a global pandemic to get his approval above 50%.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:31:29am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

I can’t even.

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Fucking insanity. Utter fucking insanity.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:32:05am

re: #42 Belafon

Trump’s probably getting credit for local repsonse.

THIS. Morons probably think he is ordering all the shutdowns and everything else.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:32:32am

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

Americans are largely overly optimistic fucking idiots and psychologically cannot yet admit to themselves how utterly he’s bollocksed up everything.

Doesn’t help that the corporate media has downplayed his stupidity and played up every “hopeful” story it can in the pursuit of “normalcy.”

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Dr. Matt  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:33:20am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

I can’t even.

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I’m starting to think the people they are polling are ones that enjoy not being at the office/work and are still getting paid to WFH.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:33:21am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

After having heard that song a zillion times (it was one of those albums you could not escape hearing in the dorm rooms at Indiana University), I recall listening it to once years later, alone and late at night, and gosh, it really is spine-tinglingly eerie.

Gave me a right case of the willies.

It’s an absolutely brilliant composition. One of the greatest rock songs of the 20th century. And yeah, it’s eerie…in the best possible way.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:33:55am

The rally-around-the-President bump did not help GWB once the casualties from Gulf War II came in.

I propose that once the real story of the depth of the pandemic sets in that Trump is not going to be so loved.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:34:48am

There are seven months remaining to the election and we’re probably two months (or more) away from the first peak of the pandemic.

Wait for the national guard rollout of body removal teams and coffin convoys before you start panicking over polling.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:34:56am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The rally-around-the-President bump did not help GWB once the casualties from Gulf War II came in.

I propose that once the real story of the depth of the pandemic sets in that Trump is not going to be so loved.

it will hit him when they start to see hospitals turning patients away and ask where the fuck the ventilators are

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:37:07am

It’s a fleeting sugar high, people looking for any sign that there’s somebody in charge and so Trump being out in front of the cameras daily makes it seem as though he’s that “somebody.” The problem for him is that it’s not October or even September, it’s just the end of March and he hasn’t even begun really campaigning besides the snide remarks thrown at Biden during the “daily briefings.”

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Semper Fi  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:37:09am

re: #11 Dr Lizardo

Putin has a full plate, I think. The coronavirus outbreak is probably an F5 shitnado over in Russia.

In Russia they probably shoot ya if you fail the Covid-19 test to keep the numbers down.

Cause of Death - Gunshot

/

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Amory Blaine  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:38:10am

If everyone is going back to work in 2 weeks, there is no need to rush an emergency bill out.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:41:32am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

I can’t even.

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Let’s see this same poll in about 3 months.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:41:33am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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horrifying? yes.
surprising? nope.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:42:51am

re: #55 Semper Fi

In Russia they probably shoot ya if you fail the Covid-19 test to keep the numbers down.

Cause of Death - Gunshot

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they were compelling doctors to report it as “pneumonia” until recently

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:43:19am

re: #55 Semper Fi

In Russia they probably shoot ya if you fail the Covid-19 test to keep the numbers down.

Cause of Death - Gunshot

/

We’ve talked off and on about how this all compares to World War Z (the novel, not the movie), and the Russian response to the zombie plague was particularly gruesome. Initially they tried to lie about the outbreaks, going so far as to send troops out to the fringes of the country in order to isolate them from what was going on back home. Then the truth was found out and a general mutiny started, with troops threatening to turn their guns on the government if they couldn’t go home to be with their families. The commanders proceeded to employ that ruthless efficiency that their nation is known for, first shooting the ringleaders, then going so far as to actually engage in true decimation: separate soldiers into groups of 10, have them draw lots, then the loser is beaten to death by the other 9 so that everybody was forced to be complicit in the crackdown.

By the end of the novel, Russia still had ended up being one of the worst hit and actually ended up turning into a theocracy under the Eastern Orthodox Church.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:43:25am

re: #56 Amory Blaine

If everyone is going back to work in 2 weeks, there is no need to rush an emergency bill out.

nor ‘postpone’ any election

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Mike Lamb  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:45:25am

re: #56 Amory Blaine

If everyone is going back to work in 2 weeks, there is no need to rush an emergency bill out.

People aren’t going to be back to work in 2 weeks. At least not in the 8th largest economy in the world. Or New York. Or Washington. Or in tons of locales. It’s going to be absolute fucking chaos when dipshit Trump is holding daily pressers demanding that shelter in place orders be lifted. There will be assholes in CA, NYC, etc. etc. that will defy the orders because of Trump’s direction. Governors, mayors, etc. will have to escalate enforcement. Bad things result.

Whomever said that a number of governors need to get together now to issue a statement that Trump is full of shit and that shelter in place orders will not be lifted until state public health officials deem it appropriate.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:46:17am

re: #56 Amory Blaine

If everyone is going back to work in 2 weeks, there is no need to rush an emergency bill out.

That’s the thing, if you read the bill the Senate Repubs threw together as one massive corporate bailout, you see that even they think this will all be “over” in no more than a few weeks. Nothing about rents or mortgages, no student debt help, credit card debt help, etc, etc. One-time checks cut that would take weeks to go out because they’d have to consult the IRS files and “means-test” them. And the bulk of the effort would go to covering corporate losses for no more than 2 months.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:46:20am

re: #60 Targetpractice

We’ve talked off and on about how this all compares to World War Z (the novel, not the movie),

I forgot the part about how the Russians dealt with it.

But the novel did a great job of showing how we deal with most any crisis: first ignore it, then suppress it, then spread lies to prevent panic, and then wind up inciting even greater panic when the public finds out how much they have been lied to.

We are just getting to that last part…

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ericblair  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:47:00am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

I can’t even.

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Can we not do the libtard freak-out-because-of-one-poll thing? That gets old.

And yes, this is nowhere near over, especially when the red states are determined to commit fundicide.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:47:46am

What I’m saying is that all the hand wringing about holding the bill up is bullshit. The feds very well will ease restrictions whether you like it or not. This bill is nothing more than a cash grab by criminals. They have no intention of a long term shut down.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:48:03am
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:48:57am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I forgot that part of it. But the novel did a great job of showing how we deal with most any crisis: first ignore it, then suppress it, then spread lies to prevent panic, and then wind up inciting even greater panic when the public finds out how much they have been lied to.

We are just getting to that last part…

We’re not even really at the cusp yet of the Great Panic. Really, right now, we’re still at the “Everybody has Phalanx and the zombies are being suppressed, so there’s nothing to worry about” stage. Most of the country is still either working or in school, with summer break over a month away. I rather think we won’t start to see the real panicking until Memorial Day.

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Interesting Times  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:49:24am

re: #68 Targetpractice

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:51:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:52:22am

re: #68 Targetpractice

We’re not even really at the cusp yet of the Great Panic…. I rather think we won’t start to see the real panicking until Memorial Day.

when we see clinics turning people away, it will start to get ugly. Guns drawn. Blame being placed. And DT will deny any responsibility and people will believe him and go after the “real culprits” who are already being set up.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:52:57am

repeated from downstairs

he can call all the ceo’s of big companies he wants.
coerce / force them to ‘reopen’

it won’t change the facts:

what about their supply sources?
raw materials
inventory
parts
truckers, deliveries, in and out

airlines can’t they don’t deliver the avgas - besides, who’s gonna fly? and certainly not in packed cheek by jowl planes

big and small restaurants and food service - No one’s selling food without sysco and their suppliers big and small, and trucks, and gas, and engine parts, and….

not to mention, no one’s going to Disney, or on a cruise or a broadway show.
major sports seasons are already canceled.

and the individual response - what if people don’t ‘report’ to work?
big corporations gonna fire them?
imagine that instant social media storm

oh and as unemployment soars, the gov’t gonna deny them unemployment benefits?

these people have not thought this throught
they have no strategy
there is no competence
they are clueless, flailing
and looking for something, anything, a ‘fix’

because that’s how he thinks.
transactionally
today. no long term planning. hell, not even next week.
“i alone can fix it”, though “i don’t take responsibility at all”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:57:17am

France reports 2,448 new cases, lower amount than the past few days yesterday, but deaths today are 240, a new high.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:58:28am

edited and corrected that last post.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:59:36am

This will be the first day that daily deaths top 2k.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:59:39am

By Easter this map will be a lot redder
(you’re gonna need to expand it to get the full effect)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:01:02pm

Daily deaths doubled in 5 days.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:01:24pm

re: #75 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This will be the first day that daily deaths top 2k.

Just had 100 yesterday for the first time right? This is getting really bad fast. My bad. I see you meant France.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:01:50pm

re: #78 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Just had 100 yesterday for the first time right? This is getting really bad fast.

100 in the US, but I’m giving global figures.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:02:12pm

There’s also a measure of “The world hasn’t ended” there in that poll, the tendency Americans have to think that if their lives haven’t come crashing down yet, then that must mean that the warnings were “overblown.” They don’t see people sick in their immediate family/workplace/etc and think that it’s something that’s isolated to certain locales and so as long as they avoid those they’ll be “safe.”

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makeitstop  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:02:16pm

When are the unemployment numbers due? Thursday, is it?

That’s sure to knock down Trump’s numbers a few notches, ‘cause they’re gonna be pretty bad.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:02:37pm

re: #79 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

100 in the US, but I’m giving global figures.

Yeah I caught my error. Thanks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:03:11pm

re: #80 Targetpractice

Nevermind all those scientists and medical experts saying if we take these extreme measures and nothing happens, THAT’S THE FUCKING POINT.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:05:01pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

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There’s a book title for ya:

“American Chernobyl: The 2020 Coronvirus Pandemic and the Failure of the Trump Administration”.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:05:30pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:10:23pm

Just got a notification that trump is going to use the DPA. FEMA broke the news on CNN based on this article but I see nothing that confirms this.

The Trump administration will use the Defense Production Act to secure about 60,000 coronavirus test kits — and will insert DPA language into a contract for 500 million protective masks, according to media reports.

FEMA chief Peter Gaynor broke the news on CNN today. He stressed that the administration still wants to be careful not to disrupt markets with use of the DPA — a Korean War-era law that gives the federal government extraordinary powers to mobilize resources during a war or national emergency. “We want to be thoughtful about not upsetting the balance, making sure we get it on the market.”

Democratic leaders and governors of states especially hard hit by the COVID-19 have been asking Trump to do more amid shortages of needed supplies, equipment and virus tests. Trump over the weekend sounded hesitant to use the DPA, saying that invoking the act and threatening to use it was leverage enough with corporations.

“Call a person over in Venezuela. Ask them how nationalization of their businesses worked out. Not too well,” Trump said on March 22.

He later said: “We have the threat of doing it if we need it. We may have to use it along the supply chain in a minor way.”

Trump said the business community is already stepping up and responding. He mentioned 3M (NYSE:MMM) — which makes 1.1 billion N95 respirator masks annually, 400 million of them in the U.S. The Maplewood, Minn.-based manufacturing conglomerate said March 20 that it would increase investments, mostly in the U.S., to boost production by nearly a third.

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unproven innocence  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:10:36pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

This shit really is the American Chernobyl:
-An exponential equation [snip]

Except that this disaster is global, and the official denialism is concentrated in a few nations —of which USA is one.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:10:41pm

re: #84 Dr Lizardo

There’s a book title for ya:

“American Chernobyl: The 2020 Coronvirus Pandemic and the Failure of the Trump Administration”.

We need people who understand history in our government more than ever. No, I’m not biased but we really suck at understanding history’s greater implications.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:11:22pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

Nevermind all those scientists and medical experts saying if we take these extreme measures and nothing happens, THAT’S THE FUCKING POINT.

That’s the other side of the coin: America’s belief that “common sense” from an idiot can be as “valid” as the educated opinion of an expert. Especially when the “gut feeling” of a con-man like Trump gets them back to “normal” faster than the experts who say it could be months before we get there.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:12:35pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:13:38pm

re: #86 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Just got a notification that trump is going to use the DPA. FEMA broke the news on CNN based on this article but I see nothing that confirms this.

He’s been saying for at least a week that he signed it, invoked it, talked about, might use it, won’t use it yet, etc.

Where are the masks, ventilators?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:16:10pm

I think we have reached a crucial transition in Republican leadershp, from the power grifters, basically intelligent people who say and do stupid things to grift the rubes, to the actual stupids, the hereditary morons who are intensively trained in the ways of power and privilege but who lack basic intelligence. Louis Gohmert is the best example of the former, while Jerry Falwell and obviously Trump himself represent the latter. W Bush and Darth Cheney are an older pair of examples. Bush was an actual stupid (though nowhere near as stupid as Trump) while Cheney was a power grifter.

This is important because the stupids will make self-destructive policy decisions on the basis of their own ignorance; Falwell resuming classes at Liberty, for example; while the grifters will hesitate, and say things like, “Whoa, is it really going to help us to kill off a big part of our base?”

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Kilroy was here  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:17:21pm

re: #90 Dread Pirate

Korean War American Dead: 33,686

Damn…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:19:12pm

But is it official until trump tweets it? And test kits alone? WTF?

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Mescalero09  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:20:04pm
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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:26:32pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:27:03pm

re: #96 jaunte

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Translation: “BEND THE KNEE!”

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:28:02pm

re: #96 jaunte

He still thinks government is run like a business, when the entire job of the federal government is to take care of the people. There is no “states owe the executive”.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:28:05pm

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think we have reached a crucial transition in Republican leadershp, from the power grifters, basically intelligent people who say and do stupid things to grift the rubes, to the actual stupids, the hereditary morons who are intensively trained in the ways of power and privilege but who lack basic intelligence. Louis Gohmert is the best example of the former, while Jerry Falwell and obviously Trump himself represent the latter. W Bush and Darth Cheney are an older pair of examples. Bush was an actual stupid (though nowhere near as stupid as Trump) while Cheney was a power grifter.

This is important because the stupids will make self-destructive policy decisions on the basis of their own ignorance; Falwell resuming classes at Liberty, for example; while the grifters will hesitate, and say things like, “Whoa, is it really going to help us to kill off a big part of our base?”

Another way to put it would be that the “power grifters” generally believe that experts and scientists are telling the truth, but may choose to ignore them for gain; while the “actual stupids” have the same beliefs as their ignorant base, and will ignore scientists and experts out of genuine contempt and arrogance.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:28:13pm

3/1: 2
3/2: 6
3/3: 9
3/4: 11
3/5: 12
3/6: 17
3/7: 19
3/8: 21
3/9: 26
3/10: 31
3/11: 38
3/12: 41
3/13: 49
3/14: 58
3/15: 65
3/16: 87
3/17: 111
3/18: 149
3/19: 195
3/20: 263
3/21: 323
3/22: 413
3/23: 553
3/24: ~650 (already there)
3/25: ~830
3/26: ~1,100
3/27: ~1,300
3/28: ~1,700
3/29: ~2,200
3/30: ~2,600
3/31: ~3,400
4/1: ~4,400
4/2: ~5,200
4/3: ~6,800
4/4: ~8,800
4/5: ~10,400
4/6: ~13,600
4/7: ~17,600
4/8: ~20,800
4/9: ~27,200
4/10: ~35,200
4/11: ~41,600
4/12: ~54,400
HAPPY EASTER

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:28:49pm

re: #96 jaunte

He can never not be a pathetic asshole.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:29:28pm

re: #98 Belafon

He still thinks government is run like a business, when the entire job of the federal government is to take care of the people. There is no “states owe the executive”.

He thinks it’s run like one of his businesses. Through threats, extortion, whining, and bullying.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:30:08pm

mr. klys’s job has sent notice to be prepared to work from home through potentially June.

Good thing we like each other.

I’m on some super-serious anti-anxiety meds atm because of my procedure this afternoon and it makes coping with everything a little easier. Mostly because I am super loopy. Made the running a little more of a challenge because physical coordination is a little more difficult.

Feels super relevant. I want to run more, just …body is not cooperating.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:33:05pm

re: #94 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

But is it official until trump tweets it? And test kits alone? WTF?

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Test kits are good. We need them. But they are also worthless if they aren’t processed in a timely manner. Sorta like the thousands of rape kits that were done, but were never processed and then tossed out after the statute of limitations for that particular case expired because the money to process them was never allocated. That is the key factor here. Not how many tests/samples have been done/taken. That number is meaningless. The number that actually counts is how many have be processed.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:34:31pm

re: #98 Belafon

He still thinks government is run like a business, when the entire job of the federal government is to take care of the people. There is no “states owe the executive”.

He’s a CEO, he thinks that all those “lower” than he take their orders from him and don’t go around doing what they want without his approval. To him, men like Cuomo and Newsom are not leaders looking out for their people, they’re rogue underlings who are acting in contradiction to his will and thus undermining his authority. I have no doubt he’s asked Barr on more than one occasion if there is a law or loophole in the law that would allow him to issue orders to Cuomo that couldn’t be ignored.

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austin_blue  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:36:04pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

I’m sure Trump is concerned about his businesses, but I think his reelection is more important to him. If he isn’t reelected he’ll almost certainly be immediately indicted for a host of crimes by NY state and others. He wants to keep that presidential immunity for as long as he can.

If he opens up the economy too soon and things go tits-up, he’s in for an insurrection.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:36:34pm

Opposition mounts against letting ship with 77 sick people dock at Port Everglades

Fearful of the new coronavirus spreading more quickly in South Florida, two Broward County commissioners and a state representative want to stop a ship from docking in Port Everglades. The ship has 77 people showing symptoms, and local leaders worry it would be a health risk to let them disembark.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:37:41pm

re: #107 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Opposition mounts against letting ship with 77 sick people dock at Port Everglades

Heckuva job Ronnie. Maybe being Trump’s biggest asskisser in the Florida delegation doesn’t qualify you to run jack shit.

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lawhawk  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:39:31pm

re: #107 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So, Florida is shutting the border with Georgia and Alabama, where cases are surging? Or shutting air travel with CA and CO as well as NY, NJ, and CT? They’re shutting themselves off from all out of state travel?

Because the number of cases are already skyrocketing because they did no aggressive testing or contact tracing to now.

They can handle the additional cases: contact trace, aggressively test everyone on board, and isolate those who test positive. And treat those who are sick.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:39:53pm

Multiple Tony-winning playwright Terrence McNally dies at 81 from coronavirus in Sarasota

One of America’s great playwrights whose prolific career included winning Tony Awards for the plays “Love! Valour! Compassion!” and “Master Class” and the musicals “Ragtime” and “Kiss of the Spider Woman,” has died.

Terrence McNally died Tuesday of complications from the coronavirus at Sarasota Memorial Hospital. He was 81.

[…]

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:41:47pm

re: #110 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Multiple Tony-winning playwright Terrence McNally dies at 81 from coronavirus in Sarasota

I read Kiss of the Spider Woman, saw a film adaption, and even saw a play adaption with my friend and our professor. Biden had it right. This thing is taking people from all walks of life. RIP.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:41:48pm

re: #110 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

RIP Mr McNally.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:41:57pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:42:14pm

There’s also a possibility that Trump and/or Jared thinks that, by denying Cuomo the equipment and support NY desperately needs, they’re setting him up to take the blame for the coming wave of deaths in that state. Present it as the “failure” of blue state leadership, versus the “success” of states like WV where the lack of testing gives leadership there leeway to put down any deaths from the virus as “respiratory failure” or “pneumonia.” That way, when the pictures start coming out of crowded ICUs and people basically left to die in the hallways, they can say that it shows what happens when you allow government to control healthcare.

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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:42:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:43:11pm

LOLOLOLOL

Sure, Jan…

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:43:14pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:43:45pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

There’s also a possibility that Trump and/or Jared thinks that, by denying Cuomo the equipment and support NY desperately needs, they’re setting him up to take the blame for the coming wave of deaths in that state. Present it as the “failure” of blue state leadership, versus the “success” of states like WV where the lack of testing gives leadership there leeway to put down any deaths from the virus as “respiratory failure” or “pneumonia.” That way, when the pictures start coming out of crowded ICUs and people basically left to die in the hallways, they can say that it shows what happens when you allow government to control healthcare.

I can buy that. My brother and his wife live in WV now. I told my SiL, newly naturalized citizen, register yourself to vote and do all you can to get Trump’s WV cousin Jim Justice out of office.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:43:54pm

re: #115 jaunte

Under the circumstances, I really want to agree with him on this.

And yes, I hate myself.

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Jebediah, RBG  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:43:57pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

I think they are depraved enough for that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:43:59pm

O_o

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:44:37pm

re: #117 Dread Pirate

I’m a grandson of a Korean War vet. I doubt my grandfather was happy to spend his early 20’s in Korea but he did his duty. Trump otoh shits on our allies including SK while kissing the ass of those like Kim.

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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:44:42pm

re: #119 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Given the virus, it would be just like setting off bombs all over the country.

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makeitstop  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:44:50pm

re: #94 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

But is it official until trump tweets it? And test kits alone? WTF?

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Saving the respirators as bargaining chips.

/not really

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:46:05pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O_o

No wonder the Dow is up. It’s not just grandma dying…it’s all the sweet non-reportable cash!

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:46:36pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOLOLOLOL

Sure, Jan…

Considering how much of a pasting Boeing has taken since last year of the 737 Max fiasco and on-going issues with the Dreamliner? They’re gonna scam us out of every penny that they can…and then still claim it wasn’t enough to cover their “losses.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:47:07pm

jfc, this fucking moron

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:47:29pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O_o

“Save” corporations that, just over a month ago, were supposedly so flush with cash from the tax cuts that they were just looking for the right opportunity to invest it all.

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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:47:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:47:44pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:47:48pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

jfc, this fucking moron

But Trump is the working class’s best friend. //

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:48:23pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And pass up “free” money? Surely you jest!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:49:44pm

re: #123 jaunte

Given the virus, it would be just like setting off bombs all over the country.

I know.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:50:05pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:51:09pm

We can’t waste any time to “save” the corporations. The workers? Fuck’em, they should be grateful to still have jobs!

//////

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:51:15pm

He’s an absolute fucking madman

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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:51:39pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

the company may not take the money if it has to surrender an equity stake to the federal government

That doesn’t seem like a real emergency.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:51:44pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:52:26pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

But Dr. Fauci is hurting Trump’s big numbers and we don’t want that. //

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:53:03pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

Considering how much of a pasting Boeing has taken since last year of the 737 Max fiasco and on-going issues with the Dreamliner? They’re gonna scam us out of every penny that they can…and then still claim it wasn’t enough to cover their “losses.”

Let us not also forget the problems with their Staliner space capsule.

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makeitstop  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:53:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:53:15pm
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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:53:21pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:54:02pm
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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:54:41pm

re: #92 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think we have reached a crucial transition in Republican leadershp, from the power grifters, basically intelligent people who say and do stupid things to grift the rubes, to the actual stupids, the hereditary morons who are intensively trained in the ways of power and privilege but who lack basic intelligence. Louis Gohmert is the best example of the former, while Jerry Falwell and obviously Trump himself represent the latter. W Bush and Darth Cheney are an older pair of examples. Bush was an actual stupid (though nowhere near as stupid as Trump) while Cheney was a power grifter.

Wait. Did you just claim that Louis Gohmert was intelligent?

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lawhawk  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:55:00pm

re: #136 goddamnedfrank

1918-1919 pandemic - places that were hit among the hardest - those that carried on with things like parades and public gatherings.

Trump’s going to take all the wrong lessons and the consequences will be harshest on everyone living in states where they are least interested in social distancing, aggressive testing, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:55:02pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:55:11pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:55:12pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wingnuts can’t understand at all that this is not a binary choice, that “reopening” is not going to “save” the economy. We’re gonna still end up in a depression, the difference is there will be fewer people around to drag us up and out of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:56:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:57:32pm
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Teddy's Person  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:58:50pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s the side-eye that makes that picture perfect.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:59:37pm

THIS. IS. WHY.

remember, oh, say 2 or 5 years ago and the discussion was why do young, healthy people need to ‘subsidize’ health insurance (for the oldz)?

why do ‘i’ need health insurance, etc?

THIS. IS. WHY.

coronaviruschallenge kid from this morning - you think he and all those previously young and healthy kids in those hospitals are getting free medical care? hell no.

and if you got one of those ‘junk’ policies….wait till you see the deductible.

and because it’s a lung infection, and what if your lungs become ‘chronic’?
forget the ‘pre-existing conditions’ threat
now you’re paying that deductible every year forever.
at least student debt could be paid off

THIS. IS. WHY.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:59:39pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

I rather listen to Dr Fauci than DT. Th good doctor is a reliable source of information about this virus. Go Nancy.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 12:59:47pm

Really, it’s going to drive the wingnuts into a frothing mess when April 12th comes, Trump declares the country “reopened”…and nothing changes. Businesses remain closed, state governments continue to maintain closures, and workers for those businesses that reopen tell their bosses the various ways they can fuck off.

Personally, my suspicion is he’s gonna find some way to weasel out of it and put the blame on the experts he’s now saying he plans to ignore.

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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:00:29pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

He’ll call for a rally.

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ericblair  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:01:36pm

If anyone wants polls to talk them off the ledge:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:02:45pm

[ I wish you love ] by A girl six years old 来自南京的Miumiu 记录音乐成长脚步

Miumiu, six years old, from Nanjing, has been learning to play the guitar since she was three.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:02:53pm

re: #156 jaunte

He’ll call for a rally.

he ‘could’ do that right now

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:03:05pm

STUPIDEST TWEET YOU WILL SEE ALL HOUR

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Mike Lamb  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:04:16pm

re: #129 jaunte

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Why? Is he going to withhold aid because people don’t like him? (Don’t answer that). Maybe if he gave them the aid without being a total fuckup about it, he wouldn’t be getting such blowback. Or maybe if he didn’t keep insisting that governors are fucking things up and states are on their own, things would be smoother.

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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:04:27pm

re: #160 The Pie Overlord!

Wait a minute, here’s a group contender:

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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:05:22pm

re: #161 Mike Lamb

I keep calling him insane. He has a personality disorder so huge it could kill us all.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:05:44pm

re: #160 The Pie Overlord!

STUPIDEST TWEET YOU WILL SEE ALL HOUR

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over at the WH “Hold my beer”….

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:06:07pm

re: #160 The Pie Overlord!

STUPIDEST TWEET YOU WILL SEE ALL HOUR

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Our health care system isn’t working too well either Dinesh. Why don’t you go fuck yourself and lock yourself up with the Typhoids at CPAC?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:06:38pm

re: #162 jaunte

Wait a minute, here’s a group contender:

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These scumbags.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:06:47pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:07:15pm

re: #156 jaunte

He’ll call for a rally.

An Easter weekend rally held in a blue state, where he’ll proclaim that the whole outbreak is “over” and “America is open for business!”

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:08:41pm

re: #165 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Our health care system isn’t working too well either Dinesh. Why don’t you go fuck yourself and lock yourself up with the Typhoids at CPAC?

“That’s only in blue states! West Virginia hasn’t shut things down and they’re doing fine!”

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John Hughes  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:09:07pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

Considering how much of a pasting Boeing has taken since last year of the 737 Max fiasco and on-going issues with the Dreamliner? They’re gonna scam us out of every penny that they can…and then still claim it wasn’t enough to cover their “losses.”

And then bitch about the “subsidies” Airbus get.

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austin_blue  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:09:26pm

Dow closed up 2,113.

Dead. Cat. Bounce.

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BeachDem  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:10:04pm

re: #110 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Multiple Tony-winning playwright Terrence McNally dies at 81 from coronavirus in Sarasota

Ragtime is one of my favorite shows—saw it twice on Broadway when Audra McDonald was in it. Never felt it got the respect it deserved. McNally won a Tony for best book, but, of course, the show lost out to Lion King.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:10:07pm

re: #171 austin_blue

Dow closed up 2,113.

Dead. Cat. Bounce.

Traders having mutual orgasms over what they think is a coming wave of “free” money for corporations.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:10:18pm

re: #171 austin_blue

Dow closed up 2,113.

Dead. Cat Grandma (and free cash!) Bounce.

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John Hughes  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:11:13pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’ll be better off if we listen to the science. Dr. Fauci has been a tremendous scientific source to every challenge we’ve faced. He’s a truth-teller. That’s what we need.

Yeah, but of you want to listen to him first you have to find him.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:11:27pm

re: #169 Targetpractice

“That’s only in blue states! West Virginia hasn’t shut things down and they’re doing fine!”

They have only tested 630 people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:11:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:12:46pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:13:16pm

re: #176 Dread Pirate

They have only tested 630 people.

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Feature, not a bug. If you’re not testing, then you’re not finding new cases. And if you’re not finding new cases, then you can write off the deaths as anything other than COVID-19.

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:13:23pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is why we can’t just leave it up to businesses to do the right thing.

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EPR-radar  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:13:52pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s virtually certain that the US will have a disproportionately severe covid19 epidemic. Trump’s response has been by far the most inept of any major world leader.

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John Hughes  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:14:02pm

re: #144 gocart mozart

Hi misspoke (as usual). He meant to say “the coronavirus is very much in control of the USA”.

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makeitstop  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:14:12pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

Really, it’s going to drive the wingnuts into a frothing mess when April 12th comes, Trump declares the country “reopened”…and nothing changes. Businesses remain closed, state governments continue to maintain closures, and workers for those businesses that reopen tell their bosses the various ways they can fuck off.

Personally, my suspicion is he’s gonna find some way to weasel out of it and put the blame on the experts he’s now saying he plans to ignore.

I had that thought last night - all this bullshit about reopening the country is theater, which he’ll use to blame Cuomo and Newsome and everyone else who is actually getting shit done for his failure.

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:14:46pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

Feature, not a bug. If you’re not testing, then you’re not finding new cases. And if you’re not finding new cases, then you can write off the deaths as anything other than COVID-19.

Though eventually you end up in a hazmat suit.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:15:49pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fox News: pathetic propagandists to the end. I’m not going to shed any tears if anyone associated with them gets sick because of their fellatio of Trump.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:18:21pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

India may surpass every nation in cases. Modi did a modified shut down nation wide, after it became clear that they just have not tested enough to suppress whoever are carriers.

Brazil’s Bolsonaro is doing his Trump-thing, even if some of the Brazilian states have acted on their own to do social distancing and shut downs, which Bolsonaro criticized.

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makeitstop  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:20:37pm

Great ad. Get ‘em, Uncle Joe.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:20:47pm

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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this is a two edged sword

and i dont disagree with judd’s point

however

they agreed not to be employees. they chose to do the job as indepent contractors
no one forced them
i get that the gig economy is growing because people need the work

those who ‘agree’ to work as contractors assume a lot of risks they figure will never happen to them. (like insurance kid above).

- no disability unless you buy your own policy
- no unemployment - you’re not an employee
- no healthcare
- no retirement
- no workplace protections
and more
and for the privilege of paying 2x the FICA

these companies have been able to offload a shit-ton of cost and risk by spreading it onto the individual backs of millions of ‘contractors’. who in fact, and probably law, are not contractors.

again, it’s one of those things that works fine until it doesnt. a sustainable model, till it isnt.

because something that was never supposed to happen, did.

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electrotek  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:21:09pm

Has anyone noticed that this tweet by a prominent Uighur activist has been picked up by the Trump clown car brigade?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:21:34pm

re: #171 austin_blue

Dow closed up 2,113.

Dead. Cat. Bounce.

as long as no actual cats were hurt in the making, i’ll take it

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:21:42pm

re: #186 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

India may surpass every nation in cases. Modi did a modified shut down nation wide, after it became clear that they just have not tested enough to suppress whoever are carriers.

Brazil’s Bolsonaro is doing his Trump-thing, even if some of the Brazilian states have acted on their own to do social distancing and shut downs, which Bolsonaro criticized.

Modi is another one whose rise coincided with Trump. I don’t see myself as a socialist but the ultra capitalists were wrong. Capitalism doesn’t equal democracy.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:22:39pm

re: #187 makeitstop

Go Joe Go.

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Teddy's Person  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:22:39pm

re: #186 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

India may surpass every nation in cases. Modi did a modified shut down nation wide, after it became clear that they just have not tested enough to suppress whoever are carriers.

Brazil’s Bolsonaro is doing his Trump-thing, even if some of the Brazilian states have acted on their own to do social distancing and shut downs, which Bolsonaro criticized.

In today’s news:

With four hours’ notice, India’s prime minister announced that no one could leave their homes for 21 days — the most severe step taken anywhere in the war against the coronavirus. Source: NYT

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:22:48pm

In a video posted Tuesday, Slim Thug, whose real name is Stayve Thomas, explained he may have gotten the virus while out getting something to eat. He assured he took precaution while out in the public.

“No games being played,” Slim Thug opened the video. “As careful as I’ve been self-quarantined and staying home, I might have gotten something to eat or something or did some stuff like that - simple stuff like that, nothing crazy - stayed in my truck, had masks, gloves, everything on. And my test came back positive.”

The rapper said he is in self-quarantine at home.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:23:06pm

re: #187 makeitstop

Great ad. Get ‘em, Uncle Joe.

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Yes!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:24:00pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

It’s virtually certain that the US will have a disproportionately severe covid19 epidemic. Trump’s response has been by far the most inept of any major world leader.

fuck trump and the party he rode in on

im staying home

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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:24:35pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:25:32pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:26:33pm

re: #198 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Stay safe Greta. You can do your part from home.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:27:53pm

re: #198 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Get well soon Greta.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:27:58pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:29:07pm

re: #201 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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I’m getting really really fucking tired of an Orange Tony Soprano running the country.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:33:43pm

re: #148 gocart mozart

As the disease spread, many residents kept mum, worried about being ostracized by their neighbors and that their children would be kicked off coveted sports teams or miss school events.

One local woman compared going public with a Covid-19 diagnosis to “having an S.T.D.”

“I don’t think that’s a crazy comparison,” said Will Haskell, the state senator who represents Westport. He has been fielding frantic phone calls from constituents.

Most residents were exercising recommended vigilance, Mr. Haskell said, but one call that stuck out to him was from a woman awaiting test results whose entire family had been exposed to the virus. “She wanted to know whether or not to tell her friends and social network,” he said, because she was worried about “social stigma.”

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:35:44pm

re: #202 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m getting really really fucking tired of an Orange Tony Soprano running the country.

Tony was a fuck lot smarter. Don’t insult him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:35:51pm

re: #198 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Do yourself a favor on that one: Don’t read the replies.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:36:47pm

re: #203 Eclectic Cyborg


As the disease spread, many residents kept mum, worried about being ostracized by their neighbors and that their children would be kicked off coveted sports teams or miss school events.

One local woman compared going public with a Covid-19 diagnosis to “having an S.T.D.”

“I don’t think that’s a crazy comparison,” said Will Haskell, the state senator who represents Westport. He has been fielding frantic phone calls from constituents.

Most residents were exercising recommended vigilance, Mr. Haskell said, but one call that stuck out to him was from a woman awaiting test results whose entire family had been exposed to the virus. “She wanted to know whether or not to tell her friends and social network,” he said, because she was worried about “social stigma.”

yes it is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:36:59pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:37:21pm

re: #205 Eclectic Cyborg

Do yourself a favor on that one: Don’t read the replies.

Too late. There’s a nice one from a Christian running for congress. Deplorable, indeed.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:37:57pm

re: #204 Ace Rothstein

Tony was a fuck lot smarter. Don’t insult him.

Okay orange Phillip Tattaliga.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:38:24pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:39:08pm

i was in the grocery store today
had to run a few errands
will not be going back for at least 7 days
in fact wont be going out for at least 7 days
i feel sort of ‘dirty’

anyway a woman in the grocery was wearing a mask
like the kind of blackout mask you wear over your eyes to sleep during the day
she was wearing it over her mouth
upside down
her nose was not inside it

we are in a lifeboat with these people

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:39:12pm

San Diego county is now third in the state, after LA county and Santa Clara county.

The Navy reported several cases until they decided to not disclose the location of their positive cases.

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electrotek  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:39:16pm

Why can’t he understand that the rest of the Chinese diaspora shouldn’t be held liable?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:39:45pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:40:17pm

re: #208 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Too late. There’s a nice one from a Christian running for congress. Deplorable, indeed.

Imagine if they showed a fraction of their anger they direct at climate change activists that they could Trump’s way but nope these dumbshits really think Trump gives a fuck anything other than himself. Goddamnit America. Why did we do this? Why!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:41:27pm

Fortunately we’ve only had one fatality in the county, and right now our hospitals can handle the load.

I’m hoping with the shutdown that we can avoid hospital overload here, but with the USN Mercy taken out of San Diego to LA, that leaves us with one less facility.

There are considerable military training facilities in the county which have building that can be converted and a whole lot of hotels too. We’ll run out of ventilators long before we run out of room or trained personnel.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:41:53pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

The PA-AG should look at the price that amazon is charging for a case of Lysol Spray. $114.85 for 12 cans. And now even though I have a order for said product it is now listed as unavailable

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:42:54pm
Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) is currently serving as acting White House chief of staff while he still holds his seat as a member of Congress.

Ben Williamson, his chief of staff, said that Meadows “is still transitioning, not collecting pay from the White House, and will be resigning his seat before the end of the month.”

A reminder of Article I, Section 6 of the U.S. Constitution: “No Senator or Representative shall, during the time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the authority of the United States.”

doesnt say anything about being paid

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:43:12pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:44:04pm

We can only hope this doesn’t turnout the way he hopes it will
(alas, his minions are many)

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:44:10pm

fox is an arm of the admin

In 2018 and 2019, booking Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos was a top priority for both producers and anchors at Fox News Channel, so much so that one Fox News producer sought to reassure DeVos’ press secretary that host Maria Bartiromo would go easy on the secretary if she sat for an interview, which she did six days later.

On Nov. 21, 2018, the producer wrote: “Ps remember any question she doesn’t feel comfortable answering — she can choose to not answer and pivot the topic — and Maria is seasoned enough to understand and move on. … So no worries on that front. This will be an easy interview and enjoyable.” (The producer is no longer with the company.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:44:57pm

re: #220 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

fuck your feelings, Bill

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:45:07pm

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

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aint friends and neighbors just the best!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:45:21pm

re: #217 PhillyPretzel

The AG should look at the price that amazon is charging for a case of Lysol Spray. $114.85 for 12 cans. And now even though I have a order for said product it is now listed as unavailable

Our AG? HAHAHAHAHA!

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:45:47pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:46:20pm

re: #224 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

PA Attorney General Josh Shapiro.
en.wikipedia.org

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:48:03pm

re: #220 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

We can only hope this doesn’t turnout the way he hopes it will
(alas, his minions are many)

I’ve turned a corner walking and run right into someone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:49:05pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:50:58pm

another great ad

Link

Transcript

the Corona virus. This is that new hoax. We have a totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China One day. It’s like a miracle. It will disappear when you have 15 people and within a couple of days is gonna be down to close to zero. We really think we’ve done a great job in keeping it down to a minimum. I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand. No, I don’t take responsibility. Oh, priorities. USA Action is responsible for the content of this ad.

while they do write themselves, donnie wrote most of this one

and note it stops at appx 30k cases. in the time it took to produce this thing we are now over 50k

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:51:47pm

BTW, Beshear has a presser coming up in about 10 minutes.

and, yes, Massie is a moron

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:52:55pm

re: #213 electrotek

When I was growing up (this would’ve been in the 1970s), COVID-19 would most likely have been given the colloquial moniker “Wuhan Flu” because that’s where it was first diagnosed. Sorta like back in the day we had the Spanish Flu (granted, a misnomer), the Hong Kong Flu, the Asian Flu, etc., etc.

But calling it the “Chinese Coronavirus” or whatever the hell Trump calls it clearly implied that such a disease is somehow inherent among Chinese people….and Trump damn well knows it.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 1:58:20pm

interesting in a copyright case about states rights, the supremes agree unanimously that

blackbeard

“To reverse a decision, we demand a special justification over and above the belief that the precedent was wrongly decided,” Kagan wrote. “And Allen offers us nothing special at all.”

wonder how that’ll fly if Roe ever comes up

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Dave In Austin  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:00:13pm

re: #231 Dr Lizardo

It’s because you’re talking about this and not his failure.

It’s a diversion and nothing more.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:02:39pm

re: #233 Dave In Austin

It’s because you’re talking about this and not his failure.

It’s a diversion and nothing more.

not just a diversion but part of a cover plan, when this thing really gets ugly, he will start to blame it on a “foreign dictatorship” and hint at “domestic traitors”.

and enough people will believe him and start turning on said “traitors”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:05:58pm
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steve_davis  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:06:46pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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you aren’t going to say goodbye to loved ones because you’re going to die with a tube down your throat. i’ve talked about this with family. dying isn’t the scary thing. it’s how one dies: almost certainly thrown in a mass grave with others. there are no funerals being held, so there isn’t even the solace of knowing people will briefly honor you.

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:07:41pm

re: #232 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Writing for the Court, Justice Elena Kagan pointed to several precedents over the past 26 years in which the justices have barred such lawsuits. True, she said, Congress had explicitly and clearly enacted legislation allowing such federal lawsuits. But that legislation was enacted before the Supreme Court had begun reading the 11th Amendment to bar such suits.

This could almost be interpreted as not allowing Congress to overturn any ruling of the Supreme Court.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:08:57pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

But somehow, Republicans STILL think there was no demand for quid pro quo.

the quid pro quo for New York State is clear: drop your investigation and you’ll get more ventilators

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:16:39pm

re: #31 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Don’t Fear the Reaper.

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Video

Needs more cowbell

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:17:38pm

Man, my vestigial remaining assumptions about the rationality of the market are completely gone now. These dumb motherfuckers actually believe the shit he’s saying over basic math and science and are going to sacrifice a million lives on the altar of quarterly earnings.

Capitalism really is a fucking cult. Damn

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:17:41pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

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he never said the words ‘quid pro quo’
that was enough for the R’s

actually him being an R was enough for the R’s

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electrotek  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:19:01pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:19:17pm

re: #237 Belafon

This could almost be interpreted as not allowing Congress to overturn any ruling of the Supreme Court.

yeah this part really got to me

But that legislation was enacted before the Supreme Court had begun reading the 11th Amendment to bar such suits

now we see it this way. before we didnt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:20:03pm

re: #240 goddamnedfrank

Man, my vestigial remaining assumptions about the rationality of the market are completely gone now. These dumb motherfuckers actually believe the shit he’s saying over basic math and science and are going to sacrifice a million lives on the altar of quarterly earnings.

Capitalism really is a fucking cult. Damn

Their true colors are showing, yes…and/or it could also be a bargaining ploy.

Trump needs a slush fund to cover his private losses, the Fundamentalists want some mechanism to close down Planned Parenthood and abortion clinics, and threatening grandma indirectly might be their way to get it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:20:17pm

Wonkette has started a mutual aid fund for its readers if they are suddenly pinched by loss of income over the coronavirus.

Wonkette Announces Reader Aid Slush Fund NOT Overseen By Donald Trump

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:20:31pm

Texas Seniors Burn Lt. Gov. Patrick Alive To Appease Coronavirus Gods

Tributes are being paid to Lieutenant Governor of Texas Dan Patrick today after he was burned alive last night inside a giant wooden structure in an act of pagan sacrifice.

“It’s what he would have wanted.”

The fatal ritual occurred after a large crowd of seniors appeared at Patrick’s residence and abducted him. Despite reports he resisted, the seniors responsible insist he was in favor of it.

“He said he was willing to sacrifice his life to save the extravagant lifestyle of some billionaire hedge fund managers. Us not so much.”

Asked whether they really believed human sacrifice could avert major disasters by appealing to some higher pagan power, the elderly Texans involved were skeptical.

“Nah, we just felt like burning him.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:21:28pm

re: #240 goddamnedfrank

Man, my vestigial remaining assumptions about the rationality of the market are completely gone now. These dumb motherfuckers actually believe the shit he’s saying over basic math and science and are going to sacrifice a million lives on the altar of quarterly earnings.

Capitalism really is a fucking cult. Damn

Welcome to socialism. We have cookies.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:21:50pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:22:37pm

re: #246 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Texas Seniors Burn Lt. Gov. Patrick Alive To Appease Coronavirus Gods

When’s the lottery? Been awhile since we had one. I volunteer Limbaugh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:23:30pm

re: #248 Charles Johnson

Why are there coronavirus parties and how do we get out of this timeline?

Our President told us it was a hoax, Rush told us it was no worse than the flu.

Who are you going to believe, them or some Deep-State liberal scientist with a degree and years of experience in epidemiology?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:24:03pm

re: #249 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The Lottery by Shirley Jackson?

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electrotek  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:24:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:24:58pm

Kentucky primary moved to June23

Pharmacies can fill 3-month supplies of prescriptions

No elective surgical procedures

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:26:00pm

re: #252 electrotek

I’m tired of Liberals telling me EVERY SINGLE DAY that I can’t be a gay Trump supporter. They call me every name in the book!

I won’t be intimidated into silence. I won’t be scared into compliance.

I will always fight for the truth. You CAN be gay and a Trump supporter!

You can be black clan supporter or a Jewish Nazi, too, I guess.

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:27:03pm

re: #252 electrotek

You can also cut off your hand with a miter saw. I just wouldn’t recommend it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:27:10pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:27:16pm

re: #251 PhillyPretzel

The Lottery by Shirley Jackson?

Yep. Brilliant short story. Jackson was a brilliant writer and observer of society.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:27:16pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

So far PA Primary is on for April 28. I have my Purell, latex gloves and face mask ready.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:28:44pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:28:52pm

re: #257 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

When describing it for a co-worker I told him it is not a lottery you want to win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:29:10pm

yeah! Liquor stores stay open!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:30:01pm

Today’s numbers in Nebraska.
Total number of cases - 61

Cases that tested negative - 1,304*
*Numbers now include negative results from NPHL and commercial labs

Except for the three cases in North Platte, all are on the east side of the state.

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:30:58pm

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

After having heard that song a zillion times (it was one of those albums you could not escape hearing in the dorm rooms at Indiana University), I recall listening it to once years later, alone and late at night, and gosh, it really is spine-tinglingly eerie.

Gave me a right case of the willies.

All our times have come
Here, but now they’re gone
Seasons don’t fear the reaper
Nor do the wind, the sun or the rain

-Buck Dharma

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:31:45pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:31:46pm

re: #260 PhillyPretzel

When describing it for a co-worker I told him it is not a lottery you want to win.

Haha yep. I did a rewriting from the old man’s perspective in college. Wish I still had it.

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steve_davis  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:31:46pm

re: #240 goddamnedfrank

Man, my vestigial remaining assumptions about the rationality of the market are completely gone now. These dumb motherfuckers actually believe the shit he’s saying over basic math and science and are going to sacrifice a million lives on the altar of quarterly earnings.

Capitalism really is a fucking cult. Damn

relax. it’s shorts taking profits. and honestly, even if we’re going into a great depression, berk at 160 was ridiculous.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:32:18pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah! Liquor stores stay open!

Ours too. Hopefully the DC dispensaries too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:32:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:32:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:33:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:34:30pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:35:33pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oooh where can I get one?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:36:24pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:36:25pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

That one would be perfect. Thanks Dr Fauci.

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:36:39pm

My former neighbor from college just finished a Grand Canyon rafting trip today. She posted to FB:

Goddammit wtfuck wtfuck just got off a 21 day Grand Canyon trip (which means I’ve technically been in quarantine that long) and WHAT THE FUCK are we getting back into?

I’m envious and I feel sorry for her at the same time.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:37:02pm

re: #255 Belafon

You can also cut off your hand with a miter saw. I just wouldn’t recommend it.

wrong tool for the job?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:37:26pm

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:38:09pm

Beshear says he’s working on how to get something like unemployment benefits for self-employed and independent contractors.

that is huge

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:39:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:40:06pm

Off to town. Catch y’all later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:40:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:41:10pm
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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:41:48pm

One of the things that’s going to happen in dealing with this is that, if we successfully control the spread from this point forward, cities (mainly liberal) are going to suffer the brunt of the effects of sheltering. Some states have instituted state wide requirements, but not all of them. If we do it, it will be conservative areas that will wonder what the big deal was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:42:08pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:42:11pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you Chelsea.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:42:56pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well when you put it that way.//

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:43:51pm

A little levity:

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:44:04pm

He’s never acknowledged the people who didn’t vote for him. I seriously think he actually believes the 1972 or 1984 electoral map is his.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:45:25pm

Kushner Companies failed again to make this month’s mortgage payment on its retail space in Times Square.

Kushner Companies failed again to make this month’s mortgage payment on its retail space in Times Square, the fourth time in five months that they were behind on payments for this building, according to Bisnow.

The coronavirus outbreak and subsequent nationwide shutdown caused an economic crisis for retail real estate industry, and could result in the Kushner family losing its Times Square property.

Besides the $200 million senior mortgage, Kushner Co. needs to pay an $85 million mezzanine loan with two real estate companies, SL Green and Paramount Group.

Kushner Co. purchased the property in 2015 for $295 million under operations by Jared Kushner, CEO at the time. The company is now run by founder Charles Kushner. According to Bisnow, Guilliver’s Gate, a miniature landscape attraction in the property that paid $45,000 per square foot , closed last year, and another tenant now pays reduced rent.

tiny violins…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:46:21pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:48:48pm

New Bob Cesca podcast is now up.

Ain’t No Curve — NSFW! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; It’s been one month since Trump said the virus is under control; The TV news people are helping Trump get re-elected; The Daily Trump Show are free campaign commercials; Trump says this is war, then promptly surrenders to the so-called invisible enemy; We can’t let the cure be worse than the problem; People who listen to Trump will get sick; Dan Patrick and letting old people die; Red Hats say they’re willing to die for the economy; Jerry Falwell to reopen Liberty University; With music by Cougar The Tiger and Young Gun Silver Fox; and more!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:49:12pm
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Teddy's Person  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:49:47pm

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So Trumpco is hoarding PPEs to dole out to those that bend the knee?

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bratwurst  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:55:28pm

So this is at least the third day in a row the POTUS had thought a bailout for the cruise ship industry was worth mentioning in a daily briefing on a national crisis.

I watched Governor Cuomo and Governor Pritzker here in Illinois give their briefings today too. Tourism is a MASSIVE business in both states, yet both of them were focused on saving lives.

I wonder what the difference is.

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EPR-radar  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:56:17pm

re: #232 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

“To reverse a decision, we demand a special justification over and above the belief that the precedent was wrongly decided,” Kagan wrote. “And Allen offers us nothing special at all.”

The precedent being wrongly decided is, by itself, a valid reason for SCOTUS to overturn its prior rulings. You can’t be in a position to get rid of Plessy, Bowers etc. while holding Roe to be eternally unassailable.

Of course the facts are that Roe was correctly decided and Plessy, Bowers etc. were wrongly decided.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:58:47pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

Coulter is so smart, s-m-r-t.

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 2:59:36pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:02:22pm

re: #295 bratwurst

So this is at least the third day in a row the POTUS had thought a bailout for the cruise ship industry was worth mentioning in a daily briefing on a national crisis.

I watched Governor Cuomo and Governor Pritzker here in Illinois give their briefings today too. Tourism is a MASSIVE business in both states, yet both of them were focused on saving lives.

I wonder what the difference is.

compassion?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:02:30pm

re: #298 teleskiguy

The virus is a great guy, New Yorkers are gonna love him, people are saying he’s done many things like get Tom Hanks, Idris Elba, and Rand Paul sick. //

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EPR-radar  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:03:26pm

re: #297 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Coulter is so smart, s-m-r-t.

Actually, Coulter used to be relatively intelligent for a shrieking harpy of the GOP death-cult.

Perhaps long years of regurgitating wingnut tripe has completely rotted her brains.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:04:52pm

re: #301 EPR-radar

Actually, Coulter used to be relatively intelligent for a shrieking harpy of the GOP death-cult.

Perhaps long years of regurgitating wingnut tripe has completely rotted her brains.

She no longer talks about threatening the New York Times.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:05:21pm

re: #299 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

compassion?

He couldn’t even try to be empathetic with that war widow. There is so much he’s done that I honestly forget about because this term is one Trump asshole moment after asshole moment.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:05:39pm

re: #301 EPR-radar

Actually, Coulter used to be relatively intelligent for a shrieking harpy of the GOP death-cult.

Perhaps long years of regurgitating wingnut tripe has completely rotted her brains.

Simpsons reference. I know that Coulter isn’t a dummy.

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bratwurst  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:07:19pm
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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:09:15pm

re: #305 bratwurst

Hey, don’t knock the Monkees. Three Doors Down would be a far better choice.

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John Hughes  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:11:24pm

re: #188 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Victim blaming.

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Teddy's Person  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:14:29pm

If any one is looking for a good show, check out The Wine Show on Hulu. I watched season one awhile back and really enjoyed it. When the second season came out, I felt it lost a little of its charm. In the past couple of days, I’ve gone back to it and am enjoying the second season as well. The best part of the show are these short film clips of the resident wine expert traveling around the world showing people/regions that are making wines both traditionally and inventively. Good stuff.

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John Hughes  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:25:50pm

re: #247 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Welcome to socialism. We have cookies.

Hell, we have champagne.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:26:28pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:29:12pm

For those needing a diversion, Sean Carroll has started his series on the “biggest ideas in the universe”, a goal to explain how fundamentally important ideas in physics and science came about and why they are important. He explains things well, and starts with the idea of conservation of momentum:

The Biggest Ideas in the Universe | 1. Conservation

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:29:49pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:30:08pm

re: #306 Belafon

Hey, don’t knock the Monkees. Three Doors Down would be a far better choice.

milli vanilli - ie totally scripted and lip synched

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:30:22pm

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:32:07pm

re: #314 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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For all Trump’s complaining about the media, they especially his allies do more to help him than hurt him. He just gets in a shitty move when they actually report on what he says and does accurately.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:32:22pm

re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Unless Disney seriously limited the number of people allowed in the park, that could be an absolute disaster.

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KGxvi  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:32:45pm

re: #296 EPR-radar

“To reverse a decision, we demand a special justification over and above the belief that the precedent was wrongly decided,” Kagan wrote. “And Allen offers us nothing special at all.”

The precedent being wrongly decided is, by itself, a valid reason for SCOTUS to overturn its prior rulings. You can’t be in a position to get rid of Plessy, Bowers etc. while holding Roe to be eternally unassailable.

Of course the facts are that Roe was correctly decided and Plessy, Bowers etc. were wrongly decided.

As silly as it sounds to non-lawyers, there’s a difference when reversing precedent governing statutory interpretation and constitutional interpretation. A “wrongly” decided opinion regarding statutory interpretation can be fixed by new statutes. So the courts are actually less likely to reverse themselves if they’re interpreting a statute rather than a matter of constitutional rights, in which there’s no real way for someone else to interpret it.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:35:30pm

re: #307 John Hughes

Victim blaming.

we’re gonna disagree

the flaw is in everyone pretending that these people are contractors and not employees.

everyone includes both parties
they both know the relationship is exploitative
and they both do it anyway with a nod, nod, wink wink. albeit for very different reasons.

they werent victims, in the current sense, until the arrangement they agreed to stopped working for them

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:35:52pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another interesting Trump/Titanic paralell:

Captain Smith was older (Early 60s. He was to retire after the Titanics maiden voyage) and very set in his ways. It is also said he was overconfident in his abilities and not completely understanding of the fact that his big new ship had some significant maneuvering and other limitations that he’d need to take into account in certain situations.

However, Trump would NEVER be the kind of person to go down with his ship, as Captain Smith did. Trump would be shoving women and children aside on the way to one of the lifeboats.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:36:52pm

re: #310 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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guess i was wrong

re: #72 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

not to mention, no one’s going to Disney, or on a cruise or a broadway show.

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KGxvi  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:37:32pm

re: #319 Eclectic Cyborg

Another interesting Trump/Titanic paralell:

Captain Smith was older (Early 60s. He was to retire after the Titanics maiden voyage) and very set in his ways. It is also said he was overconfident in his abilities and not completely understanding of the fact that his big new ship had some significant maneuvering and other limitations that he’d need to take into account in certain situations.

However, Trump would NEVER be the kind of person to go down with his ship, as Captain Smith did. Trump would be shoving women and children aside on the way to one of the lifeboats.

Trump would quietly jettison on a life boat before anyone else knew something bad was happening. Thereby not only saving himself, but fucking over more people in the process.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:38:21pm

re: #321 KGxvi

Trump would quietly jettison on a life boat before anyone else knew something bad was happening. Thereby not only saving himself, but fucking over more people in the process.

Or he’d get on a lifeboat and start throwing other people out of it to make room for his family.

This analogy could work a lot of different ways lol.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:38:30pm

re: #320 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Unless governor Newsom ends the shutdown before 1 April, then no, Disneyland is not reopening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:38:54pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:40:21pm

re: #316 Eclectic Cyborg

Unless Disney seriously limited the number of people allowed in the park, that could be an absolute disaster.

There is no means of limiting people in Disneyland and Disney World where this won’t be a disaster. I will be surprised if Newsom permits it. (We know Desantis will).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:40:37pm

The Hollywood reporter isn’t reporting anything new, just that the original plan was to reopen on 1 April.

Not going to happen unless Newsom decides to end the lockdown.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:41:13pm

re: #323 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Unless governor Newsom ends the shutdown before 1 April, then no, Disneyland is not reopening.

That tweet is a little “clickbaity”. The current Disney parks shutdown as announced, runs through April 1st. Obviously, given the circumstances, it will probably be extended.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:41:38pm

re: #323 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Unless governor Newsom ends the shutdown before 1 April, then no, Disneyland is not reopening.

it’s way more dangerous than 6 foot distancing

how do they know everyone who works there is negative?

then there’s the restaurants, the surfaces, the bathrooms, the railings on and on

kids are not fastidious

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:41:51pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joseph is a moron

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:42:11pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:43:42pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:44:06pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah and how many will die with every 1% increase in Coronavirus infections?

Asshole.

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:44:38pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:45:06pm

CNN points out why disaster is looming in Latin America:

Why are these three presidents downplaying coronavirus warnings?

Bolsonaro is an easy case to explain: he’s a fascist wanna-be dictator like Trump.

The president of Mexico is just desperate to not lose vacationer income, an important source of outside currency to the country.

Ortega - now he is a puzzle. As CNN points out, he’s been AWOL for a couple of weeks. As noted in the story, the vice president, who happens to be Mrs. Ortega (how convenient) is pulling the religious con on the masses.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:45:10pm

Well, me & Z (but especially Z) are f&&ked.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:46:01pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Joseph is a moron

Trump’s “perfect economy” comes before our public health. And honestly if we lose as much people as we fear, people aren’t going to be in a big rush to get back to work. I’ve already buried one loved one this year. I don’t want to have to say goodbye to anyone this year that I love.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:46:28pm

re: #335 The Pie Overlord!

Well, me & Z (but especially Z) are f&&ked.

Hope you are sheltering in place. Have everything delivered and dropped on your doorstep.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:46:49pm

re: #334 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

CNN points out why disaster is looming in Latin America:

Why are these three presidents downplaying coronavirus warnings?

Bolsonaro is an easy case to explain: he’s a fascist wanna-be dictator like Trump.

The president of Mexico is just desperate to not lose vactioner income, an important source of outside currency to the country.

Ortega - now he is a puzzle. As CNN points out, he’s been AWOL for a couple of weeks. As noted in the story, the vice president, who happens to be Mrs. Ortega (how convenient) is pulling the religious con on the masses.

Re: Ortega. Could we have a Edith Wilson like situation?

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Mike Lamb  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:47:17pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Joseph is a moron

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Correlation does not equal something something something.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:48:12pm

re: #338 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ortega could be dead, or on death’s doorstep, for all we know, and his wife and cronies are desperately hiding it so they aren’t overthrown.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:48:21pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:49:52pm

re: #340 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Ortega could be dead, or on death’s doorstep, for all we know, and his wife and cronies are desperately hiding it so they aren’t overthrown.

Right, that’s what I was referencing. Definitely a possibility.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:50:27pm
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austin_blue  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:51:00pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Please proceed!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:51:23pm
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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:53:00pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:53:07pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I thought of it more as the arrogant commanders sending wave after wave of men out of trenches in futile charges.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:54:40pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:56:57pm

No one bothered to think that Malaysia is going to be a problem:

Key medical glove factories cutting staff 50% amid coronavirus

Malaysia’s medical glove factories, which make most of the world’s critical hand protection, are operating at half capacity just when they’re most needed, the Associated Press has learned.

Healthcare workers snap gloves on as the first line of protection against catching COVID-19 from patients, and they’re crucial to protecting patients as well. But medical-grade glove supplies are running low globally, even as more feverish, sweating and coughing patients arrive in hospitals by the day.

Malaysia is by far the world’s largest medical glove supplier, producing as many as 3 out of 4 gloves on market. The industry has a history of mistreating migrant workers who toil over hand-sized molds as they’re dipped in melted latex or rubber, hot and exhausting work.

The Malaysian government ordered factories to halt all manufacturing starting March 18. Then, one by one, those that make products deemed essential, including medical gloves, have been required to seek exemptions to reopen, but only with half of their workforce to reduce the risk of transmitting the new virus, according to industry reports and insider sources. The government says companies must meet domestic demand before exporting anything. The Malaysian Rubber Glove Manufacturers Assn. this week is asking for an exception.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 3:57:00pm

Waiting for discovery

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:03:23pm

Sheriff Jones is looking for ill eagles, so he can score brownie points with ICE.

He is also one of the “constitutional sheriffs”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:04:01pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:04:22pm

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I can’t believe they are really going to do this—that they are really going to start recommending to people that they return to work, which negates as a practical matter, all social distancing protocol. So on top of a public health crisis and an economic crisis, Trump and the GOP are going to add a political crisis, as states fight with feds over maintaining social distancing.

Oh, and how long before Trump is going after a Dem governor—let’s say Gretchen Whitmer—by blaming her for a continued economic downturn because she won’t lift the shelter in place order?

Will Fauci resign when Trump drives this off the rails?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:05:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:05:27pm

re: #352 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Waiting for discovery

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:06:39pm

re: #357 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

But don’t worry, we’ll be back in business by Easter!

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:07:47pm

Didn’t Burr also leak Mueller information to the WH? If so, I don’t remember his constituents giving a shit about that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:08:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:08:12pm
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austin_blue  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:08:56pm

Two infants in San Diego test positive for coronavirus

From CNN’s Alexandra Meeks

Two infants in San Diego have tested positive for coronavirus, Public Health Officer Dr. Wilma Wooten announced at a news conference Tuesday.

This is the first time San Diego County has reported cases of infants less than one year of age, Wooten confirmed.

“Things are likely to get worse before they get better,” Wooten said. “We do not believe the local wave of COVID-19 cases has crested yet.”

cnn.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:09:14pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:11:07pm

Clorox was an easy play, but who thought to buy stock in lubricants?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:11:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:12:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:13:38pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:14:36pm

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

He wants 2 things:

1) The economy going again so economic-minded voters don’t excoriate him;
2) People back in churches so the religious wingnuts don’t hate him.

Simple as that.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:15:48pm

re: #370 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That very well could be.

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gocart mozart  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:15:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:17:09pm

re: #370 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He wants 2 things:

1) The economy going again so economic-minded voters don’t excoriate him;
2) People back in churches so the religious wingnuts don’t hate him.

Simple as that.

and 3) His hotels and golf courses re-opened

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:17:22pm

re: #363 austin_blue

Two infants in San Diego test positive for coronavirus
…
“Things are likely to get worse before they get better,” Wooten said. “We do not believe the local wave of COVID-19 cases has crested yet.”

cnn.com

Which is why I have been going to the grocery store every day, hobbling as I do, to find what is on the shelf (still no paper products.) I figure it is better to go now while the actual infection rate is about 1 in 2000, than wait until the infection rate is 1 in 20.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:17:24pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:18:27pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is the kind of natural selection we need to move forward as a species.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:18:30pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:18:58pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Great. They can all wear “Let Me Die” labels as they’re carted to the hospital. It doesn’t change the burden by much.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:19:05pm

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

and 3) His hotels and golf courses re-opened

That’s probably #1 in all truth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:21:10pm
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austin_blue  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:21:29pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Muscle Shoals, under the gun.

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:22:35pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:25:47pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

The number of people under this tweet asking if the kid had preexisting conditions is horrifying. Why? So you can know whether or not to be sad? Do the deaths of only previously healthy children get to be tragedies?

Maybe to reassure themselves that their kids aren’t at such high risk?

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EPR-radar  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:27:08pm

re: #362 Charles Johnson

‘citizen scientist’ caught my eye. It’s probably a tribal recognition signal for young earth creationist fuckwits.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:27:32pm

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Our President told us it was a hoax, Rush told us it was no worse than the flu.

Who are you going to believe, them or some Deep-State liberal scientist with a degree and years of experience in epidemiology?

Rush said it was worse than the common cold.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:27:38pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You first Glenn.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:34:03pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

If it weren’t twitter, it’s a good question as a data point. But because Twitter, it’s not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:34:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:35:48pm

re: #393 Colère Tueur de Lapin

If it weren’t twitter, it’s a good question as a data point. But because Twitter, it’s not.

what data point?

that wasn’t the question.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:35:59pm

News from Italy

Il bollettino di martedì 24 marzo: per il terzo giorno rallenta la crescita dei contagi

(For the third day the increase of infections slows.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:36:24pm

re: #382 austin_blue

Muscle Shoals, under the gun.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:36:52pm

re: #396 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

It is slowing down?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:37:29pm

re: #396 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

News from Italy

(For the third day the increase of infections slows.)

Hope it continues.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:37:55pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well I’m glad this virus is almost over and that we have won. So much winning.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:38:09pm

re: #398 PhillyPretzel

It is slowing down?

That’s right for the last three days, anyway.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:38:20pm

re: #399 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Good. :)

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lizardofid  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:38:27pm
Trump on why he picked Easter as the day he wants to end strict social distancing and reopen American businesses: “Easter is a very special day for me … Easter Sunday, and you’ll have packed churches all over our country.”

He really is Randall f’ing Flagg.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:40:16pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:40:38pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, I’m only on page 47.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:40:39pm

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

When did Colonel Sanders start doing a podcast?

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BeachDem  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:40:44pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Asswipe says:

“As we near the end of our historic battle” with the coronavirus and that there is now “light at the end of the tunnel.”

I think:

There’s a light at each end of this tunnel, you shout
But you’re just as far in as you’ll ever be out
These mistakes you’ve made, you’ll just make them again
If you only try turning around.

Also,

Asswipe says he came up with Easter because it’s “beautiful.”

I think—hope it’s as “beautiful” as your suit (and your whole famdamily) was on Easter in 2018.

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lawhawk  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:40:48pm

I remember fondly back to a month ago, when people were saying that covid19 wasn’t a problem, and that the tornadoes to date this year had a higher death toll, especially around Nashville.

How fucking quaint. We’re watching the death toll accelerate, cases doubling every 2-3 days, and there’s no sign of any flattening of the curve anywhere in the US (and wont for at least 2-3 weeks).

In meantime, Trump’s too busy trying to blame NY for the spread, when Trump’s the fucknut who ignored the warnings, didn’t aggressively test, and still isn’t taking any of this seriously except as to try and profit from it personally.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:45:56pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate

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Can fuck the American people all he wants, but don’t fuck the shareholders.

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stpaulbear  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:47:55pm

re: #236 steve_davis

you aren’t going to say goodbye to loved ones because you’re going to die with a tube down your throat. i’ve talked about this with family. dying isn’t the scary thing. it’s how one dies: almost certainly thrown in a mass grave with others. there are no funerals being held, so there isn’t even the solace of knowing people will briefly honor you.

If I die from covid-19, I’d just as soon get thrown in a pit with others. Save my sisters the hassle of dealing with me (all but one of us is in our mid 60’s), and it’s more likely that people will visit the site to memorialize those who didn’t make it.

A good friend of mine died last summer. He was cremated and I don’t know where his remains are, but not a day passes without thinking about him. That’s my honor to him.

I’m glad he’s not around to see what’s happening now, although he’d be better equipped for sheltering in place than anyone else I know.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:50:26pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’ll be packed with someone other than me. (My church has already said they will not be having an Easter service. It’s either not a big deal for UUs anyway or it’s treated as the celebration of spring that it orignally was.)

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 24, 2020 • 4:54:48pm

re: #31 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Don’t Fear the Reaper.

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Blue Oyster Cult: Veteran of the Psychic Wars

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 24, 2020 • 5:20:51pm

I got a text today from our housekeepers that, with the shelter-in-place orders, they won’t be here to clean the house next week. Not a surprise and not a problem. I texted back that this was fine and that we wanted to pay them for the cleaning anyway, because I know things are really difficult right now and we want to support the small businesses that are important to us.

She said I made her cry.

Pay kindness forward right now, where and when you can, in whatever form it’s possible.

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cat-tikvah  Mar 24, 2020 • 6:19:21pm

re: #413 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I got a text today from our housekeepers that, with the shelter-in-place orders, they won’t be here to clean the house next week. Not a surprise and not a problem. I texted back that this was fine and that we wanted to pay them for the cleaning anyway, because I know things are really difficult right now and we want to support the small businesses that are important to us.

She said I made her cry.

Pay kindness forward right now, where and when you can, in whatever form it’s possible.

I assured my house cleaner that I will continue to be paying her throughout.
My neighbor who is also a client will do the same.
We were the only ones who are doing that.
If you have the money, please do this.
Same for nannies, other household services.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:23:15am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Find these fucker and whatever the fine is listed as in the law books for this violation, kick it up by 500%.


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