The Bob Cesca Podcast: Ain’t No Curve

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Nicol Gersch Law PC:

Ain’t No Curve — NSFW! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; It’s been one month since Trump said the virus is under control; The TV news people are helping Trump get re-elected; The Daily Trump Show is a free campaign commercial; Trump says this is war, then promptly surrenders to the so-called invisible enemy; We can’t let the cure be worse than the problem; People who listen to Trump will get sick; Dan Patrick and letting old people die; Red Hats say they’re willing to die for the economy; Jerry Falwell to reopen Liberty University; With music by Cougar The Tiger and Young Gun Silver Fox; and more!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 7:57:00pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 7:57:26pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 24, 2020 • 7:57:33pm

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dnlS  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:00:35pm

Do Republicans understand what will happen when we surpass China? How that will make people think about the disease. New round of collective freaking the f out incoming.

China has a f’ load more people and did not have plenty of time to prep. We are the word’s worst does not equal MAGA. I expect some BS about how China’s numbers are fake. What about Italy?

At this point they aren’t thinking past a few days, much less a week.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:01:43pm

I agree with Dennis Prager. He can die first if it means that much to him.

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stpaulbear  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:03:58pm

re: #5 Sherlock Hound

Does he have an employer who should fire him?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:05:57pm

From the last thread, because I’m slow:

re: #106 The Pie Overlord!

RATIO OF THE DAY

re: #159 Anymouse 🌹🏡

And yet Republicans have no problem with voting by mail if they control the state.

We’ve had it in Nebraska far longer than Oregon or Washington.

They only care in states where they are a dead letter (HI, CA) or a swing state where they could be wiped out.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:07:51pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:09:33pm

Thank dog the shelter in place orders are all being entered by local governments, so Trump has no authority to revoke them on Easter. So glad Kentucky has a Democratic Governor who won’t feel pressured by Trump to lift restrictions.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:15:41pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:15:45pm
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dnlS  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:16:13pm

Perhaps we’ll argue a few days in early April about how ‘fake’ China’s numbers are. Some Luntz person is probably already testing the best ‘wording’ to meme this.

When do those arguments start to fall? At 2, 3, 4, or 5 to 1 ratios of US cases to China’s do more people start to say nah or do we begin to change when deaths reach 3000+? This will not be pretty.

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:17:00pm
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Kilroy was here  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:19:43pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

Death rides a pale horse ah.. Nut..

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Belafon  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:20:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:21:28pm

From the previous thread:

re: #152 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My brother lives in the Springs. He thinks the infection is so high because the wingnuts thought it was a hoax and made a point of ignoring any and all precautions. He says they are still at it, cruising around in their pickups, gathering in the parks, holding parties, etc.

It’s because of the wingnuts in your state (see also Weld County, which borders the Nebraska Panhandle, also with a high infection rate) why we’re on lockdown in the Panhandle to keep it out.

There is none of that cruising in pickup trucks or big gatherings in parks or anything like that going on here.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:27:27pm

re: #5 Sherlock Hound

I agree with Dennis Prager. He can die first if it means that much to him.

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gocart mozart  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:27:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:28:21pm

re: #13 teleskiguy

Conservatism drives voters to the polls on fear. Fear of Teh Geyh, fear of transgender people, fear of voting rights, fear of immigrants, &c as long as I’ve been alive.

Amazingly, they had a perfect fear-mongering tool, a worldwide pandemic, and they threw that tool away by calling it a Democratic fear-mongering hoax. The one time they had something truthful to use, they blew it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:28:49pm

re: #8 Dread Pirate

This brings up something I’ve been thinking about. Say we test everyone. Cool. How often will they be tested? It’s not like it’s a one and done, really.

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retired cynic  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:29:47pm

re: #17 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

appeasement?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:29:58pm

A photojournalist with the New York Daily News is in a medically-induced coma and on a respirator due to the virus. He’s 48.

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:30:10pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:32:06pm

re: #21 retired cynic

appeasement?

We’re all Neville Chamberlain, apparently.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:32:44pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:33:42pm

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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“Prolife”

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:34:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:34:32pm

re: #21 retired cynic

appeasement?

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NetworkKed  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:35:27pm

re: #20 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Ultimately there will be a test to see if you have it now, and a test to see if you previously had it.

We hope - and there’s not been much evidence against this - that once you’ve had it you’ll be immune. So the live illness test will be used to track down and isolate live cases, and be used repeatedly on the people around those who are quarantined.

This presupposes that you have a low enough case rate to focus. This is where SK has been winning the battle, and where we - hopefully, eventually - will get back to. But to get there we’re going to have to ride out the curve in front of us.

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gocart mozart  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:36:53pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:39:51pm

Ok. This is some thread. I had NO IDEA.

Read it. Seriously. Here’s just a couple.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:41:45pm

re: #29 NetworkKed

Ultimately there will be a test to see if you have it now, and a test to see if you previously had it.

We hope - and there’s not been much evidence against this - that once you’ve had it you’ll be immune. So the live illness test will be used to track down and isolate live cases, and be used repeatedly on the people around those who are quarantined.

This presupposes that you have a low enough case rate to focus. This is where SK has been winning the battle, and where we - hopefully, eventually - will get back to. But to get there we’re going to have to ride out the curve in front of us.

I understand that. But being tested today, abs coming back negative doesn’t mean you don’t have it 3-6-9 weeks from now. You have a cold…a bad one. Tested and negative. Then you get sick again. See what I’m saying?

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Kilroy was here  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:43:15pm

The Top Gear/Grand Tour guys with a message..

An important message from Clarkson, Hammond & May

Boris has trashed “herd immunity” for “stay at home” when his government figured out how many dead there would be. He has closed the pubs!

NHS (National Health Service) is already overwhelmed with simply seasonal flu, thanks to conservatories funding cuts over ten years and vilifying EU health workers. Sadly England will most likely look like Italy soon.

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makeitstop  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:44:04pm
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dnlS  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:46:51pm

re: #27 Dread Pirate

Probably not enough. Several prelim studies suggest 5 to 10X more than confirmed cases with viral shedding with no/low symptoms. They should test nuclear subs crews or anything else critical with best current test in beginning of isolation and 7? or even 14 days later. Prior study suggested that by 11.5 days, 97.5% had shown symptoms. Those number on a multi person ship mean its likely you will get an asymptomatic carrier or one that hasn’t presented symptoms yet.

Symptoms are %’s, Some have nothing, some have diarrhea or lose smell/taste, most if anything have fever.

Test them before isolation, during, and before boarding. Consult, make a plan. Learn something that’s important to the world (share) and is also mission critical for the navy.

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:49:25pm

😢

Instagram

To say he was a big influence on me and other artists of alternative, grunge, progressive rock, and industrial music, is a grave understatement. Rest In Peace Bill Reiflin.

He drummed for Ministry, Lard, Nine Inch Nails, and other industrial metal bands back in the 90s. He was R.E.M.’s drummer after Bill Berry retired in 1997. He was the drummer for King Crimson until he died of cancer today. Only 59 years old.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:49:43pm

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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“No one can die? Then it’s not a war”

The only people who believe it to be a “war,” Dennis, are you sad bunch of fuckwits who wanted so badly for Donny to be a “wartime president” because you all heard that they get reelected. Nobody in their right mind thinks this a “war,” they think of it as a viral outbreak.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:51:27pm
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LadyBehir  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:53:26pm

I wonder if that Chinese cell phone rumor will be used to say “see, our numbers here aren’t so bad - they lied about theirs!” The rumor has hit my Facebook feed from 2 separate people, complete with an article that sounds like it is a really bad translation here: abc14news.com

And I don’t know what abc14news is - it looks like one of those collection of articles sites.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:56:07pm

re: #38 Dread Pirate

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:56:31pm
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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:57:44pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:57:52pm

re: #39 LadyBehir

I wonder if that Chinese cell phone rumor will be used to say “see, our numbers here aren’t so bad - they lied about theirs!” The rumor has hit my Facebook feed from 2 separate people, complete with an article that sounds like it is a really bad translation here: abc14news.com

And I don’t know what abc14news is - it looks like one of those collection of articles sites.

Oh, it’s almost a certainty that there will be arguments over the “true” number of dead from this outbreak for years to come. I say it’s almost a guarantee now that wingnuts will insist in years to come that the “deep state” deliberately inflated the numbers by recording deaths from other diseases/illnesses as due to this outbreak in order to hurt Trump’s “legacy.”

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 8:58:39pm

re: #41 teleskiguy

This song is unlisted on YouTube. You’re welcome.

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jaunte  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:02:24pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:03:06pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:04:36pm

re: #39 LadyBehir

I wonder if that Chinese cell phone rumor will be used to say “see, our numbers here aren’t so bad - they lied about theirs!” The rumor has hit my Facebook feed from 2 separate people, complete with an article that sounds like it is a really bad translation here: abc14news.com

And I don’t know what abc14news is - it looks like one of those collection of articles sites.

It’s literally a fake news site. Don’t trust it.

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:07:12pm
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makeitstop  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:08:00pm

re: #39 LadyBehir

I wonder if that Chinese cell phone rumor will be used to say “see, our numbers here aren’t so bad - they lied about theirs!” The rumor has hit my Facebook feed from 2 separate people, complete with an article that sounds like it is a really bad translation here: abc14news.com

And I don’t know what abc14news is - it looks like one of those collection of articles sites.

I think I read here the other day that that rumor started on Reddit.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:08:21pm

re: #48 gocart mozart

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LadyBehir  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:13:37pm

Breitbart is repeating the rumor also. It all goes back to Epoch Times. So I am not believing it, but it will be used by the wingnuts, channers, and qtards.

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:15:36pm

Big Earthquake off the tip of the Kamchatka Peninsula.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:16:18pm

The good news is, if you get Covid-19 there is an 85% chance you will survive.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:16:27pm

Good point at Fark about the Gallup poll today: Trump actually tried to look like a “leader” last week, which would make this poll a lagging indicator compared to where it will likely sit in another week or so when he starts trying to demand the country “reopen” as the number of infected/dead spikes.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:16:46pm

CSEE has been adding an average of 8 more deaths in each of its hourly updates to US Covid19 figures. We are headed for a thousand a day. Ten thousand by Easter.

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:17:29pm

Damn. He’s been dead for four years.

He retweeted me once upon a time.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:19:28pm

re: #54 Dread Pirate

The good news is, if you get Covid-19 there is an 85% chance you will survive.

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Knowing my luck…I’ll be one of the 15%.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:20:08pm

re: #56 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

CSEE has been adding an average of 8 more deaths in each of its hourly updates to US Covid19 figures. We are headed for a thousand a day. Ten thousand by Easter.

Actually it doubles every 3 days so there will be 28,800 dead by Easter.

edited for accuracy. 225 cases yesterday times 2^7

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danarchy  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:22:54pm

re: #39 LadyBehir

I wonder if that Chinese cell phone rumor will be used to say “see, our numbers here aren’t so bad - they lied about theirs!” The rumor has hit my Facebook feed from 2 separate people, complete with an article that sounds like it is a really bad translation here: abc14news.com

And I don’t know what abc14news is - it looks like one of those collection of articles sites.

I notice that article mentioned the story was broken by the Epoch Periods, and I wondered if that was a bad translation of the Epoch Times. Sure enough, this was an article from the epoch times a couple days ago.

theepochtimes.com

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gocart mozart  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:24:34pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:25:05pm

The thing with testing is at the moment, we only have the test active for “do you have it at this particular moment.” Useful - I mean sure, it’s better than nothing - but we’re not deploying it widely enough for any number of reasons that I won’t go into here. So a valid measure for a snapshot in time, but tells you nothing about things moving forward - unless the person tests positive, in which case you know they have been exposed and either develops antibodies (survives) or not (dies).

What we really truly need is the serological tests, which are slowly starting to come online (or at least proof of concept has been done but I haven’t seen indication that it has moved into production and widespread testing yet) - those are the ones that say “have you had it and do you have the antibodies - therefore, are you immune.” (And yes, this is leaving aside the discussion of reinfection which I tend to believe is unlikely based on other coronaviruses and also data from both the vast majority of folks who have shown no re-infection plus primate data - keep in mind that the PCR tests are not the most reliable with a low viral load.) With *that* information it would be possible to say “okay, someone who has a certificate that shows they have been exposed and recovered can go out and resume work” because they would be unable to transmit the disease. That’s the whole thing about herd immunity. That’s what we aim for with the vaccines.

Once we have that test, yes, EVERYONE should get it. Find out who was exposed and was asymptomatic or that cold was really COVID-19 or whatever. And then, moving forward, you can test individual cases as needed. But at this point in the big picture, it’s the serological testing that matters far more than the immediate testing. Assume everyone you interact with is potentially infected. Try to act accordingly.

Social distancing at the doctor’s office meant mr. klys could not come in and hold my hand for today’s procedure which SUCKED. I completely understand and did not throw a fit even though I was very disappointed because it was a fucking awful appointment and I had a ton of anxiety about it but whatever. It’s done for another five-six years and I’m off the anti-anxiety meds and onto the alcohol.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:25:31pm

…sorry for the wall of text.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:27:51pm

re: #63 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…sorry for the wall of text.

YouTube

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:28:05pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:32:53pm

re: #64 Dread Pirate

I know there are folks out there who do really well at absorbing information through video lectures but I am not one of them in the slightest.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:33:23pm

re: #39 LadyBehir

I wonder if that Chinese cell phone rumor will be used to say “see, our numbers here aren’t so bad - they lied about theirs!” The rumor has hit my Facebook feed from 2 separate people, complete with an article that sounds like it is a really bad translation here: abc14news.com

And I don’t know what abc14news is - it looks like one of those collection of articles sites.

The Website in question is not a legitimate news site.

Domain Name: abc14news.com
Registry Domain ID: 2313216771_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2020-03-18T20:39:14Z
Creation Date: 2018-09-22T23:51:53Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2020-09-22T23:51:53Z
Registrar: godaddy.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 146
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com

From ICANN:
Name: Registration Private
Organization: Domains By Proxy, LLC
Email: abc14news.com@domainsbyproxy.com

Actual ABC television stations and the network itself list their registration names and contacts. The date this one was registered was just before the 2018 election.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:34:46pm

re: #66 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know there are folks out there who do really well at absorbing information through video lectures but I am not one of them in the slightest.

I’ve been watching those for a few weeks. Luckily I had a physiology course 45 years ago so I can kinda keep up .

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:39:08pm

My wife just got a bullshyte phishing E-mail that is incredibly wild, claiming to be from Mike Pompeo. This thing goes on for pages.

She sent it along to the FBI.

It turns out a lot of E-mail spammers use software which cannot produce an E-mail address over thirty-two characters. The same goes for many companies (I have trouble adding minutes to my TracFone as one example, because they will not accept my E-mail address).

I have a similar problem with E-mail from the state government: Its software could not send to an E-mail longer than thirty-two characters. (Their IT people fixed that when I was on the village board.)

Having such a long E-mail means I don’t get the humorous E-mails from spammers my wife gets.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:39:11pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:42:02pm

re: #68 Dread Pirate

I’ve been watching those for a few weeks. Luckily I had a physiology course 45 years ago so I can kinda keep up .

I am 100% for effective scientific communication on this subject! It’s just that personally I do much better through reading the source papers - I have a lot of practice reading between the lines for both what they say and then what the things they don’t say mean. So while some of the technical stuff I have to look up, the other skills are holding up just fine.

I’m feeling like I should pull together a resource list of “topic” and “short layperson summary of the study conclusion complete with the major caveats” and links to the studies themselves but today was not a day for work.

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plansbandc  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:43:23pm

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:44:35pm

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:46:19pm

I spent the day listening to Wagner and flavoring vodka.

I’m not even drinking it, it’s just a thing to do with my hands; I’ve made more flavored vodka in 48 hours than I’ve consumed in five years.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:50:48pm

re: #70 Ace-o-aces

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Yes, and then the Chinese gov’t deliberately released it within their own borders and disrupted their own economy to scare Trump.

“Well, that’s what the cover-up was for! It accidentally got loose!”

How would that make sense if this was supposed to be a virus aimed at America to scare Trump?

“…They did it deliberately to make it look like an accident!”

Yeah, I’m done here.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:53:22pm

re: #70 Ace-o-aces

This American fought in Vietnam, and he thinks Woods is a batshit crazy conspiracy dupe.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:53:27pm

re: #75 Targetpractice

Plus there is some good molecular analysis of the protein spikes as to why it is natural and not man made.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 24, 2020 • 9:54:51pm

Working from home….

Classical Gas

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:00:28pm

re: #72 plansbandc

Thread. Watch ‘em all!

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:04:09pm
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dnlS  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:05:42pm

Lets take 674 deaths in USA (worldometer, earlier tonight) vs 782 now and see how many deaths there are based on doubling times

Below are the tables. Using 3.5 day doubling, gives the USA 2211 deaths by the end of march, and 23.8k by the end of Easter day. 1/2 day doubling errors really compound by Easter (72% more, 43k for 3 day doubling starting with 674). If 782 is the more correct number, then there will be 2566 deaths by the end of march and 27.8k deaths by the end of Easter day. This is an indication of how a small change in rate results in a large difference in outcome at later time points.

674 start
2.5day 3day 3.5day 4day 4.5day 5day
March 3557.4 2696.0 2211.6 1906.4 1698.4 1548.4
Easter 99100.5 43136.0 23813.0 15250.9 10784.0 8172.7

782 start
2.5day 3day 3.5day 4day 4.5day 5day
March 4127.4 3128.0 2566.0 2211.8 1970.5 1796.6
Easter 114980.1 50048.0 27628.7 17694.6 12512.0 9482.3

Graph of 674 start

Graph of 782 start

Flatten the curve!

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William Lewis  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:13:19pm

re: #78 Kilroy was here

Working from home….

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Video

Neat. But I’ll always love Glen’s take best…

Glen Campbell - Classical Gas

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Kilroy was here  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:13:58pm
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ckkatz  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:15:59pm

It is so easy to get really stressed by the craziness of these days. Here are a few ideas. I encourage others on lgf to continue posting their self-care ideas.

You’re at Home. The News Is Intense. Make Time for Self-Care.
thewirecutter.com

Generally, I unplug and do things that I can actually control and succeed at. Sometimes as small as taking a walk around the block. The down side is that I end up getting behind a couple of threads and it will take me a day or more to catch up.

Last project today was to successfully score some tp. (Actually that is for a friend and her daughter.) Locally, there is a FaceBook page [ facebook.com ] as well as a bunch NextDoor postings. Two reputed good local sources are Commercial Cleaning Supply Companies and local Asian supermarkets.

Remember it is a marathon not a sprint.

Be well and of good spirit!

Edit: Completed third paragraph.

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ckkatz  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:22:36pm

re: #78 Kilroy was here

Ha! I remember when that song first came out and one of the Pittsburgh TV stations used a version of it for their local news show theme. Now it’s bugging me that I can’t remember which one, though. Channel 11? Of course that was near 50 years ago.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:23:30pm

re: #83 Kilroy was here

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So, another cash grab independent of Democrat input, or are they serious this time?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:29:14pm

re: #74 The Ghost of a Flea

We had some really fucking amazing Georgian food while we were in Portland on this last trip and it made me think of you. I just thought I should share.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:35:19pm

re: #85 ckkatz

Ha! I remember when that song first came out and one of the Pittsburgh TV stations used a version of it for their local news show theme. Now it’s bugging me that I can’t remember which one, though. Channel 11? Of course that was near 50 years ago.

I think it was WIIC 11 that used Classical Gas for their local news in the late 60s. But WIIC news never got over the bungling Beverly Byer…She continually bungled reading the news…most famous blooper of hers...”Groucho Marx has taken a turn for the worse…in fact, he’s dead…”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:36:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:40:29pm

re: #73 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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ckkatz  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:42:12pm

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

I think it was WIIC 11 that used Classical Gas for their local news in the late 60s. But WIIC news never got over the bungling Beverly Byer…

Wow, Beverly Byer, now there’s a name from the past. I understand that she passed away back in 2018.

While I don’t remember any particular bunglings of hers, I also don’t remember the Pgh local news as highly demanding of high competence either.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:44:07pm

re: #91 ckkatz

Wow, Beverly Byer, now there’s a name from the past. I understand that she passed away back in 2018.

While I don’t remember any particular bunglings of hers, I also don’t remember the Pgh local news as highly demanding of high competence either.

I go back all the way to Carl Ide as the news anchor on WDTV. Then when WDTV became KDKA Bill Burns pushed Ide out of the news anchor spot.

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ckkatz  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:49:52pm

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:50:13pm

re: #92 Joe Bacon 🌹

I go back all the way to Carl Ide as the news anchor on WDTV. Then when WDTV became KDKA Bill Burns pushed Ide out of the news anchor spot.

Wow, WDTV, the anchor station for the Dumont Network.
en.wikipedia.org

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:55:25pm

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Wow, WDTV, the anchor station for the Dumont Network.
en.wikipedia.org

Yes the DuMont network where Jackie Gleason, Morey Amsterdam, Ernie Kovacs, Larry Storch and Chico Marx got their starts on network TV.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 10:57:10pm

Of note, again mentioned in the article, that the virus was found to have survived on various surfaces in cabins 17 days after the passengers had disembarked.

I find that absolutely chilling.
If everyone goes back to work, how can you possibly prevent the viruses spread through commerce without extensive & constant testing, and product disinfecting.

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teleskiguy  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:00:38pm
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ckkatz  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:01:20pm

re: #92 Joe Bacon 🌹

I go back all the way to Carl Ide as the news anchor on WDTV. Then when WDTV became KDKA Bill Burns pushed Ide out of the news anchor spot.

You were certainly much more aware of what was going on than I.

I remember Carl Ide being out of Canonsburg near Washington Pa. I think that he tried his hand at setting up his own pr company, but ended up coming back to Pgh.

And, of course, Bill Burns and his daughter on KDKA for many years. My mom used to call that the “Patti and Daddy Show”. I believe that Patti Burns also passed away not long after her father did.

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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:01:31pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

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Cue “YOU CAN’T RAISE TAXES DURING A RECESSION!!!”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:02:37pm

re: #33 Kilroy was here

It wasn’t just that BoJo changed his mind when he grasped the sheer enormity of what he’d be facing in a full-on unchecked spread of COVID-19. What also contributed to the government’s abrupt about-face was when French President Macron threatened to close the French shipping ports to the UK, which would’ve left the Brits as completely cut off as North Korea.

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ckkatz  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:05:34pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

Kick the can down the road until they can dump it on the Next Democratic President.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:06:25pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:07:50pm

Not only can we now look forward to deficit and debt becoming part of the election as Donny tries to insist that he’s gonna spur huge economy growth while Biden has to bite the bullet and admit taxes will have to go up for Americans, but we can also look forward to wingnuts insisting (as they did with Dubya) that the tax cuts were on course to pay for themselves before COVID-19 happened and the Dems forced a massive bailout on the Repubs.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:19:14pm

re: #96 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Of note, again mentioned in the article, that the virus was found to have survived on various surfaces in cabins 17 days after the passengers had disembarked.

I find that absolutely chilling.
If everyone goes back to work, how can you possibly prevent the viruses spread through commerce without extensive & constant testing, and product disinfecting.

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Finding traces of RNA from the virus is not the same as finding something that can actually infect anyone — this topic was discussed downstairs.

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ckkatz  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:23:09pm

re: #103 Targetpractice

Not only can we now look forward to deficit and debt becoming part of the election as Donny tries to insist that he’s gonna spur huge economy growth while Biden has to bite the bullet and admit taxes will have to go up for Americans, but we can also look forward to wingnuts insisting (as they did with Dubya) that the tax cuts were on course to pay for themselves before COVID-19 happened and the Dems forced a massive bailout on the Repubs.

What I have been pondering recently is whether the US can be stabilized after the current fiasco. If so, I fear that we are in for more waves of destabilization by a very destructive right wing.

I am wondering whether some final wave of destruction will cause such damage to our current post-WW2 institutions that we will require a generational reset on the order of the Civil War or the New Deal.

Why are they doing this? Because it pays. Look at the chart of wealth distribution posted in an earlier thread. The ultra-wealthy have been attacking the Post-Great Depression New Deal since Ronald Reagan. And doing it quite successfully.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:24:58pm

re: #103 Targetpractice

Not only can we now look forward to deficit and debt becoming part of the election as Donny tries to insist that he’s gonna spur huge economy growth while Biden has to bite the bullet and admit taxes will have to go up for Americans, but we can also look forward to wingnuts insisting (as they did with Dubya) that the tax cuts were on course to pay for themselves before COVID-19 happened and the Dems forced a massive bailout on the Repubs.

Even if this thing gets out of the Senate, I don’t see it getting past the House in its present form.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:25:34pm

re: #86 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So, another cash grab independent of Democrat input, or are they serious this time?

Limited details but oversight for the slush fund (1/2 trillion), one time payment of $1,200 bucks to Americans who make up to $75,000. Individuals with no or little tax liability would receive the same amount.

We will find out more tomorrow as they ram this monster through the senate and then try to get the house to buy in.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:26:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:28:40pm

re: #105 ckkatz

What I have been pondering recently is whether the US can be stabilized after the current fiasco. If so, I fear that we are in for more waves of destabilization by a very destructive right wing.

I am wondering whether some final wave of destruction will cause such damage to our current post-WW2 institutions that we will require a generational reset on the order of the Civil War or the New Deal.

Why are they doing this? Because it pays. Look at the chart of wealth distribution posted in an earlier thread. The ultra-wealthy have been attacking the Post-Great Depression New Deal since Ronald Reagan. And doing it quite successfully.

I’ve listened to forty years of Republican voters saying “I didn’t leave the party; the party left me” (including my wife’s explanation for why she became a Libertarian).

They have always been this way.

What seems more likely is the former Republican voter who says that has awakened to the realisation they were lied to and swallowed it (but they don’t want to admit they fell for a lie).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:31:35pm

LOL, video, 0:17

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sagehen  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:34:06pm

re: #105 ckkatz

Why are they doing this? Because it pays. Look at the chart of wealth distribution posted in an earlier thread. The ultra-wealthy have been attacking the Post-Great Depression New Deal since Ronald Reagan. And doing it quite successfully.

It’s been successful because the American memory is brief; by the 1980’s less than half the voters (and zero people too young to vote) had any visceral memory of why the New Deal was even needed.

But the 2024 voters… a clear majority carry vivid memories of the 2008 meltdown, and now this one. It’s neither “historical” nor “abstract theoretical” to them.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:39:11pm

Returning My Face Back To Normal
Theater majors trapped at home…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:42:06pm

Perry Stone is a Pentecostal wingnut/naturopath who makes millions of dollars grifting off the gullible.

Utah Outcasts review a video clip by him where he “speaks in tongues” in four “languages” (none of which are real, but he attempts to make sound like Spanish and Arabic for example).

They briefly consider going into religious grifting, because it pays so much better than atheism. They reject the idea on the grounds they have ethics and morals.

Caution for coarse language, 11:26

Perry Stone Sends Prayers to Four Nations

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Kilroy was here  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:45:35pm

Well .. it is better than the last movie.

Star Wars Coronavirus PSA #Coronaviruschallenge

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 24, 2020 • 11:53:47pm

re: #87 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We had some really fucking amazing Georgian food while we were in Portland on this last trip and it made me think of you. I just thought I should share.

Glad you enjoyed it! Georgian food is magic. Like, its own unique edge plus the best parts of all its neighbors fused into culinary Voltron.

I’m working through plague dread with cooking projects, and revisiting Georgian is coming soon. I have to make khinkhali with enough pleats or I won’t get a good husband….

Not sure if I should figure out khachapuri. Having access to comfort food of that level during a stressful period defined by access to my kitchen might be too much for the arteries. Either that or masses of cheese bread is exactly what everyone needs and I shouldn’t overthink it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:00:24am
The Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services and public health districts have reported 64 total cases of COVID-19 as of Tuesday, March 24. The 11 counties in the Panhandle continue to not yet see any positive testing, but public health officials say that’s no reason to be lulled into a sense of false security.

“In the Panhandle, we continue to have no confirmed cases,” Paulette Schnell, Scotts Bluff County Health director, said. Schnell has been giving the updates on cases each day as Panhandle Public Health District hosts a call for the media and members of its unified command team. “We continue to have 9 pending cases.”

(more)

starherald.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:07:25am

If you’re short on toilet paper, buy dryer sheets.

Your bum will smell like lavender or roses, you butt won’t have static electricity, and it will be wrinkle-free.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:20:38am

From the No-Context PragerU graphics channel on Twitter.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:23:07am

re: #115 The Ghost of a Flea

Glad you enjoyed it! Georgian food is magic. Like, its own unique edge plus the best parts of all its neighbors fused into culinary Voltron.

I’m working through plague dread with cooking projects, and revisiting Georgian is coming soon. I have to make khinkhali with enough pleats or I won’t get a good husband….

Not sure if I should figure out khachapuri. Having access to comfort food of that level during a stressful period defined by access to my kitchen might be too much for the arteries. Either that or masses of cheese bread is exactly what everyone needs and I shouldn’t overthink it.

Speaking of Oregon food. I recall getting a meal in Astoria in a Bosnian restaurant that was very good. (And was rated as one of the better places in the town.) Limited hours, so I was unable to visit the place again when I was in Astoria again later in the year.

After dinner coffee - I liked the coffee set enough to take a picture of it.
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:35:42am

Game And Parks Closing Public Access To Wildlife Viewing Blinds (Goes to the Sidney, Nebr. Sun-Telegraph, more at the link):

NORTH PLATTE - In a proactive state and national effort to prevent the spread of the coronavirus and ensure the health of its customers and staff, the Nebraska Game and Parks Commission is closing the public crane viewing blind at North River Wildlife Management Area north of Hershey.

The Commission aims to protect its staff and customers by removing opportunities for crowds to gather at facilities and events and by maintaining clean areas that are available to the public.

A prairie-chicken viewing blind located south of North Platte, is a partnership between the Commission and the Nebraska Cooperative Republican Platte Enhancement (NCORPE), will also be closed for this season to help eliminate opportunities for the virus to be spread.

North Platte has three Covid-19 cases.

Every year the Sandhill Crane migration of milions of birds flies through the area. That migration draws thousands of bird watchers, bring lots of tourist money to western Nebraska.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:02:40am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:10:20am

Meanwhile, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro went on TV and straight-up insisted that quarantines should end immediately, that because he’s “athletic”, COVID-19 is nothing to worry about, that COVID-19 is just a “little flu” and otherwise spewed a whole lotta other nonsense.

Good luck, Brazil. You’re gonna need it. This guy’s a fucking crackpot.

Video, with English subtitles: Bolsonaro speech on the COVID-19 situation - Subbed (24/03/2020)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:16:48am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

He and Trump are cut from the same mold.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:20:49am

FWIW, lottery sales must be way down, at least here in California. The payouts for last night’s MegaMillions were low (for example, four white balls only paid $242 when usually it is up in the four hundred dollar range) and the five-ball value is just creeping up.

Of course the lottery local offices are closed to the public, also, but that alone wouldn’t deter sales, I think.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:21:32am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro went on TV and straight-up insisted that quarantines should end immediately, that because he’s “athletic”, COVID-19 is nothing to worry about, that COVID-19 is just a “little flu” and otherwise spewed a whole lotta other nonsense.

Good luck, Brazil. You’re gonna need it. This guy’s a fucking crackpot.

Video, with English subtitles: [Embedded content]

I wonder if the nut-right in Brazil might be secretly hoping that COVID-19 is going to go ripping through the poor parts of the Brazilian cities and kill a bunch of people.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:23:03am

re: #124 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

FWIW, lottery sales must be way down, at least here in California. The payouts for last night’s MegaMillions were low (for example, four white balls only paid $242 when usually it is up in the four hundred dollar range) and the five-ball value is just creeping up.

Of course the lottery local offices are closed to the public, also, but that alone wouldn’t deter sales, I think.

Might also be that if the next paycheck might be in doubt the marginal utility of a dollar or two went way up and thus the value of a lottery ticket has dropped.

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unproven innocence  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:23:37am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro went on TV and straight-up insisted that quarantines should end immediately, that because he’s “athletic”, COVID-19 is nothing to worry about, that COVID-19 is just a “little flu” and otherwise spewed a whole lotta other nonsense.

Good luck, Brazil. You’re gonna need it. This guy’s a fucking crackpot.

Video, with English subtitles: [Embedded content]

Video

Holy crap— he’s pushing Trump’s fish-fuck-in-it cleaner “cure”. (Obfuscated to deny morons a convenient search term.)

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Chrysicat  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:25:18am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:28:43am

re: #125 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I wonder if the nut-right in Brazil might be secretly hoping that COVID-19 is going to go ripping through the poor parts of the Brazilian cities and kill a bunch of people.

They may well be hoping that, but the gangs that run the favelas have other ideas. They’re enforcing lockdown and social distancing.

According to well-sourced Rio newspaper Extra, City of God gangsters have been driving round the slum, blaring out a recorded message to residents.

“We’re imposing a curfew because nobody is taking this seriously,” the message said, according to Extra’s Tuesday story. “Whoever is in the street screwing around or going for a walk will receive a corrective and serve as an example. Better to stay home doing nothing. The message has been given.”

Reuters was unable to confirm the veracity of the recorded message, but City of God residents, who declined to give their names for fear of retribution, confirmed an evening curfew and other restrictions.

The gangs’ concern over the outbreak echoes fears nationwide about the fate of Brazil’s nearly 15 million favela residents confronting what some have dubbed “the disease of the rich.”

The coronavirus landed in the country with wealthier Brazilians returning from Europe, but is quickly migrating into poorer communities, where crowded quarters, informal labor and weak public services threaten to accelerate its spread.

It really says something when outright criminals have a better grasp of the seriousness of the situation than the goddamn elected president of the nation.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:30:25am

re: #129 Dr Lizardo

Forgot the source. reuters.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:33:35am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro went on TV and straight-up insisted that quarantines should end immediately, that because he’s “athletic”, COVID-19 is nothing to worry about, that COVID-19 is just a “little flu” and otherwise spewed a whole lotta other nonsense.

Good luck, Brazil. You’re gonna need it. This guy’s a fucking crackpot.

Video, with English subtitles: [Embedded content]

Video

He sounds like Trump in Portuguese.

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ericblair  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:37:41am

re: #102 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Moscow is ready to help Washington in the fight against the coronavirus outbreak if necessary, according to the Russian ambassador to the United States. cnn.it

Yeah, they might wanna hold on to that stuff for a few weeks.

The official line from the Kremlin is that there have been zero deaths from coronavirus. Zip, zero not us. And if you report a case load over the official 400-whatever, then you can be arrested for essentially inciting public unrest. The doctors’ unions have been raising alarms for days that this is flatly untrue, putting themselves in danger from the government. Even the mayor of Moscow, a sociopathic crook like any other in the government, has been trying to tell the Kremlin that shit is bad and getting worse.

It’s hard to tell whether Putin believes the true extent of the problem or he’s in happy talk la la land. He has a great deal of interest in making things “normal” until the 22 April referendum-thing on letting him be president for life, but that’s a hell of a long way away in pandemic terms. And it’s not like his staff doesn’t lie to him on a constant basis.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:47:48am

re: #132 ericblair

Yeah, they might wanna hold on to that stuff for a few weeks.

The official line from the Kremlin is that there have been zero deaths from coronavirus. Zip, zero not us. And if you report a case load over the official 400-whatever, then you can be arrested for essentially inciting public unrest. The doctors’ unions have been raising alarms for days that this is flatly untrue, putting themselves in danger from the government. Even the mayor of Moscow, a sociopathic crook like any other in the government, has been trying to tell the Kremlin that shit is bad and getting worse.

It’s hard to tell whether Putin believes the true extent of the problem or he’s in happy talk la la land. He has a great deal of interest in making things “normal” until the 22 April referendum-thing on letting him be president for life, but that’s a hell of a long way away in pandemic terms. And it’s not like his staff doesn’t lie to him on a constant basis.

It’s the same mentality that we initially saw from the Kremlin during the Chernobyl disaster.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:52:17am

Variety like so many get the amount wrong:

Senate Leaders Reach Deal on $2 Trillion Coronavirus Bill

Democrats had twice rejected Senate Republicans’ earlier version of the bill, arguing that the $500 million bailout fund lacked proper oversight. The new version has an inspector general and an oversight board. The Senate leaders had earlier said that a deal was close.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:54:49am
Despite official figures reporting few to no new domestic Covid-19 cases on the Chinese mainland in recent days, authorities continue to detect more infections, with those in the city at the heart of the country’s outbreak often amounting to more than a dozen a day, Caixin has learned.

According to a member of the infectious disease prevention and control team in Wuhan, every day the city continues to record “several or more than a dozen asymptomatic infected individuals”, which are people that have tested positive for Covid-19, but do not feel ill and are excluded from published numbers.

As of Sunday (March 22), Hubei province, where Wuhan is located, had four consecutive days of zero new “confirmed cases.”

The person, who asked not to be named, said that these asymptomatic people are found by tracing the contacts of others who are infected and by screening quarantine workers who are at high risk of infection, as opposed to en masse testing.

“It’s not possible at the moment to tell if transmission has stopped,” the person said.

straitstimes.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:06:39am

re: #124 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

FWIW, lottery sales must be way down, at least here in California. The payouts for last night’s MegaMillions were low (for example, four white balls only paid $242 when usually it is up in the four hundred dollar range) and the five-ball value is just creeping up.

Of course the lottery local offices are closed to the public, also, but that alone wouldn’t deter sales, I think.

Ah, the lotto. I forgot to mention:

I WON THE LOTTO yesterday. (Eight free tickets in the multi-state 2x2 lotto.)

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:07:38am

One of those coincidences that make you scratch your head.

In the song ‘Pandemic’ by underground hip-hop artist Dr. Creep, there’s a stanza that goes, “In the jet stream is how it happened/2020 combined with coronavirus, bodies stackin…”

The song was released in 2013.

It’s here in this video, at the 1:07 mark:

DR CREEP - PANDEMIC FEAT. LONE NINJA (MONTAGE MUSIC VIDEO) CUTZ BY DJ MADHANDZ / PROD. BY BLAQ MASQ

Now if Dr. Creep would just release a song about the next Megamillions winning lottery numbers……

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:11:28am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

Refresh my #137 - I made a couple of edits to add info.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:11:45am

re: #128 Chrysicat

Even though our cat Felix Randomkitty died some time ago, we’ve had no rodent problems in our home (because about half-a-dozen feral cats moved into the crawl space under our house).

When we came home yesterday, there were at least a dozen cats sitting in our front yard.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:16:06am

We’re actually up to three deaths as of this morning - the third fatality was a 71-year-old woman with a history of cardiac disease and a lifelong asthmatic.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:18:47am

Three day death total in US is 479.

That is three more than the highest weekly flu death this season (which was 476.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:20:43am

In the category of “scratch a libertarian, find a fascist” there is the special edition of Reason magazine they try to brush under the carpet. It was a special edition of the nation’s most prominent Holocaust deniers.

Pando reprinted the entire cesspool of that edition.

They also give a history of Reason from the time it was founded by a severely mentally-ill Vietnam veteran.

The Pando article is about a fifteen minute read. Reason included some of the most infamous Holocaust deniers and apartheid/Jim Crow apologists at the time.

As Reason’s editor defends its racist history, here’s a copy of its holocaust denial “special issue”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:21:29am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

The Chinese gov’t has been blaming outsiders, so when a second wave hit they know who to blame.

Just like Donald Trump.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:23:39am

So, what is the proper term to use to describe the belief that one should “die for the Emperor”?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:27:19am

re: #144 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So, what is the proper term to use to describe the belief that one should “die for the Emperor”?

Kamikaze?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:30:33am

re: #145 Dr Lizardo

Kamikaze?

“kaze” for wind, “kami” from emperor (or god.) Only the pilots were kamikaze, as they were in the “wind” (air.)

re: #144 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So, what is the proper term to use to describe the belief that one should “die for the Emperor”?

Idiots.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:34:54am

re: #146 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“kaze” for wind, “kami” from emperor (or god.) Only the pilots were kamikaze, as they were in the “wind” (air.)

Idiots.

Good point - have to come up with something for the insane Trump cultists. I like Branch Covidians, which I’ve seen here - there’s certainly an element of quasi-religious fanaticism to Trump’s supporters.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:43:33am

re: #144 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So, what is the proper term to use to describe the belief that one should “die for the Emperor”?

Conservatism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:49:46am

re: #146 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“kaze” for wind, “kami” from emperor (or god.) Only the pilots were kamikaze, as they were in the “wind” (air.)

Idiots.

That piloted rocket kamikaze plane the Japanese developed was known as the baka (idiot) bomb

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:55:15am

Dumbass Mississippi Governor Gonna Cure Coronavirus With BIBLE (Wonkette)

Amongst other things, Gov. Reeves has been leading prayers on Facebook.

Tater, who just got back from a trip to SPAIN with his family, SPAIN WE SAID SPAIN, ain’t doin’ no statewide lockdown order because here’s why:

“Mississippi’s never going to be China. Mississippi’s never going to be North Korea,” Reeves responded. He added that “when looking at the numbers China’s putting out, claiming that they have no new cases over a period of time—I’m not entirely sure we can trust that data.” […] “We don’t want to make any decisions that would ultimately do more harm than good,” Reeves said.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:07:48am

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Dumbass Mississippi Governor Gonna Cure Coronavirus With BIBLE (Wonkette)

Amongst other things, Gov. Reeves has been leading prayers on Facebook.

LOL he just came back from Spain? Yeesh, he’d better think about either self-quarantining or getting checked, ASAP.

Maybe in a few more weeks, we’ll be reading the headline “Mississippi Governor in Critical Condition With Coronavirus” or something to that effect.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:10:33am

The “Easter Resurrection” back-to-work order is a true stroke of Evil Genius: it is going to pit “loyal Christian” Americans against “evil secularists”, with a lot of desperate people who just need to keep food on the table and rent paid caught in the middle.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:10:50am

Jim Cramer Suggests Uninfected Should Wear A Star On Their Clothes (Crooks & Liars)

It’s hard to say if Jim Cramer is trying and failing to provide comic relief, or he just does not hear himself talking.

On Monday’s CNBC outing Cramer…

…while reviewing which Coronavirus companies might make a profitable investment…

suggested that healthy people might wear a star in order to fly on an airplane.

“Maybe we have to give people a star, as they do in other countries. Then, WE’RE BACK! WE’RE BACK!”

(more at C&L)

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:11:32am
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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:16:05am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Jim Cramer Suggests Uninfected Should Wear A Star On Their Clothes (Crooks & Liars)

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(more at C&L)

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:18:19am

re: #154 Ace-o-aces

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Wingnuts: “EVEN IF IT SAVES ONLY ONE LIFE, WE NEED TO CLOSE THE BORDER AND KICK OUT EVERY ILLEGAL!!!”

Also wingnuts: “IF PEOPLE DIE TO SAVE DEAR LEADER’S ELECTION EFFORT, IT’S TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!”

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unproven innocence  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:20:59am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The “Easter Resurrection” back-to-work order is a true stroke of Evil Genius: it is going to pit “loyal Christian” Americans against “evil secularists”, with a lot of desperate people who just need to keep food on the table and rent paid caught in the middle.

Suggestion:
Counter that insanity with a picture of the Pope televising his official blessing to the faithful, at a window overlooking an EMPTY Bascillica Square.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:22:34am

re: #157 unproven innocence

Suggestion:
Counter that insanity with a picture of the Pope televising his official blessing to the faithful, at a window overlooking an EMPTY Bascillica Square.

foreign papists!

/

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:23:52am

re: #157 unproven innocence

Suggestion:
Counter that insanity with a picture of the Pope televising his official blessing to the faithful, at a window overlooking an EMPTY Bascillica Square.

Won’t work, the evangelicals all think he’s a communist plant whose purpose is to tear down Holy Mother Church. They haven’t had anything good to say about the Catholic Church since the Nazi Pope retired.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:29:20am

re: #159 Targetpractice

Won’t work, the evangelicals all think he’s a communist plant whose purpose is to tear down Holy Mother Church. They haven’t had anything good to say about the Catholic Church since the Nazi Pope retired.

Especially as the Pope stated that there is no inherent contradiction between Creation and Evolution.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:40:16am

Fourth deceased in Czech Republic from COVID-19. In this case, an 83-year-old man with extensive pre-existing conditions, according to doctors.

Like the other three victims, elderly and/or suffering from age-related poor or declining health or terminal medical conditions. No outliers thus far.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:43:21am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

Fourth deceased in Czech Republic from COVID-19. In this case, an 83-year-old man with extensive pre-existing conditions, according to doctors.

Like the other three victims, elderly and suffering from age-related poor or declining health. No outliers thus far.

Rate continues to slow in Germany, 34K cases (172 total fatalities) compared to 20K five days ago. Germany has been under severe restrictions since March 16th.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:45:47am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rate continues to slow in Germany, 34K cases (172 total fatalities) compared to 20K five days ago. Germany has been under severe restrictions since March 16th.

Looks like the restrictions are having the desired effect, chiefly, to slow the rate of infection so the healthcare system doesn’t get swamped by a tsunami of the ill.

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ericblair  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:45:50am

re: #152 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The “Easter Resurrection” back-to-work order is a true stroke of Evil Genius: it is going to pit “loyal Christian” Americans against “evil secularists”, with a lot of desperate people who just need to keep food on the table and rent paid caught in the middle.

Sure, until the perfectly predictable results of mass religious ceremonies, like what happened in South Korea and Iran, start manifesting themselves in utterly predictable ways. We are now still in the incubation period for the results of a lot of stupid behavior across the country

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:47:57am

re: #164 ericblair

Sure, until the perfectly predictable results of mass religious ceremonies, like what happened in South Korea and Iran, start manifesting themselves in utterly predictable ways. We are now still in the incubation period for the results of a lot of stupid behavior across the country

I can’t help but wonder what those folks reaction is going to be. I’m thinking of some of those evangelical megachurches. And if there’s anyone set up to do livestreaming of their services, it’d be them. They have access to a wide range of IT infrastructure.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:52:15am

Prince Charles has tested positive for coronavirus.

The Prince of Wales has tested positive for coronavirus and is displaying mild symptoms “but otherwise remains in good health”, Clarence House has said.

A Clarence House spokesman said the Duchess of Cornwall had also been tested but does not have the virus.

In accordance with Government and medical advice, the Prince and the Duchess are now self-isolating at home in Scotland.

The tests were carried out by the NHS in Aberdeenshire where they met the criteria required for testing.

It is not possible to ascertain from whom the Prince caught the virus owing to the high number of engagements he carried out in his public role during recent weeks.

theguardian.com

Prince Charles is 71 years old. That being said, I’m entirely sure he has access to perhaps the best healthcare in the UK, bar none.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:53:28am
SCOTTSBLUFF ― Regional West is tightening the current visitor restrictions to protect patients and staff. These restrictions will be implemented at all Regional West healthcare facilities including the Medical Center, all Regional West Physicians Clinics, Scottsbluff Surgery Center, offsite physician clinics, and Urgent Care immediately. Visitors 18 years and younger will not be allowed to visit, unless they are a patient or parent of a patient. Valet service is closed and curbside assistance is limited.

Screeners will also ask about recent travel outside of the Nebraska Panhandle or areas of high-risk for COVID-19 as well as if you have had contact with a person known to be infected with COVID-19.

If the visitor answers “YES” to any of these questions they will not be allowed to enter the facility. If they are seeking care, they will be required to put on a mask before entering.

starherald.com (four hours ago)

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unproven innocence  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:53:33am

re: #159 Targetpractice

Ok, I tried. On that subject, I last spoke with my older brother on 27 Feb. I had relayed info about how seriously China was countering the epidemic in Wuhan, and was trying to transition to other aspects of what precautions people should take, and how anyone could easily use a little math to get a fairly high-confidence estimate of when we might expect the shit to hit the fan.

But when he said that COVID-19 was a HOAX, and that Trump’s dismantling of this nation’s world-class pandemic response teams was FAKE NEWS, I lost it. I said “We’re done here. I’ll call you back in May” and hung up. Unfortunately, it’s now clear that’s going to be a few weeks too late. We are both in our 70’s.

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ericblair  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:54:58am

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

I can’t help but wonder what those folks reaction is going to be. I’m thinking of some of those evangelical megachurches. And if there’s anyone set up to do livestreaming of their services, it’d be them. They have access to a wide range of IT infrastructure.

There was a NYT (I think) anti-Cletus safari article a couple of weeks ago about a fundie couple in Louisiana. COVID was all fake news, exaggerations, until one of their own (the hubbie) ended up in the hospital on a ventilator. Then a bunch of them came around in a big hurry.

Yes, I think most of the megachurches have top of the line remote AV capabilities, but that gets back to your point about signalling and us vs them. If you cancel in-person services, then you’re siding with Them. Can’t have that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:59:12am

re: #169 ericblair

There was a NYT (I think) anti-Cletus safari article a couple of weeks ago about a fundie couple in Louisiana. COVID was all fake news, exaggerations, until one of their own (the hubbie) ended up in the hospital on a ventilator. Then a bunch of them came around in a big hurry.

Yes, I think most of the megachurches have top of the line remote AV capabilities, but that gets back to your point about signalling and us vs them. If you cancel in-person services, then you’re siding with Them. Can’t have that.

In the meantime, our local Lutheran church remains closed.

It remains to be seen whether they will hold Easter services, but if Nebraska stays the course with banning gatherings over ten, probably not.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:00:18am

re: #169 ericblair

There was a NYT (I think) anti-Cletus safari article a couple of weeks ago about a fundie couple in Louisiana. COVID was all fake news, exaggerations, until one of their own (the hubbie) ended up in the hospital on a ventilator. Then a bunch of them came around in a big hurry.

Yes, I think most of the megachurches have top of the line remote AV capabilities, but that gets back to your point about signalling and us vs them. If you cancel in-person services, then you’re siding with Them. Can’t have that.

True enough. I mean, little ol’ Oregon Buddhist Temple has been livestreaming their Sunday services as of late, as the temple is currently closed owing to the outbreak; only Rev. Sugahara is there. And if a relatively small congregation like OBT can do that, I’d daresay a big megachurch could easily pull it off….but like you said, it’d be siding with the Other.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:07:01am

Oh shit

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:07:51am

Shit must be getting bad in Russia:

(via Google Tranlate):

The Government of the Russian Federation ordered the closure of cinemas in all regions of the country. This decision was made at a meeting of the operational headquarters to prevent the importation and spread of coronavirus infection.

The termination of work is not specified.

Earlier, the Ministry of Culture recommended that cinemas temporarily cease their activities starting March 23, 2020. The corresponding order was signed by the Minister of Culture Olga Lyubimova.

Original source, in Russian: kinopoisk.ru

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:12:57am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

Yep….I was right.

The number of recorded coronavirus cases in Russia reached 658 on Wednesday, a day after the mayor of Moscow told President Vladimir Putin that the real scale of the problem in the Russian capital far exceeded official figures.

Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin, a close Putin ally, told the Russian leader on Tuesday that a serious situation was unfolding in the capital and that the real number of cases was unclear but was increasing quickly.

Testing for the virus was scarce, said Sobyanin, and many Muscovites returning from abroad were self-isolating at home or in holiday cottages in the countryside, and not being tested.

Reuters reported earlier this month that a reported sharp increase in pneumonia cases in Moscow and contradictory information around the issue was fuelling fears about the accuracy of official coronavirus data which remains much lower than many European countries.

reuters.com

A recipe for disaster - a tanking economy owing to low oil prices and a badly underfunded healthcare system…and now a highly-contagious respiratory disease circulating in the capital (and probably the other big metro areas as well).

Putin’s got his hands full now.

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Chrysicat  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:16:30am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:20:33am

I noticed the owner of the gun shop here in town took down his business sign and his billboard near US-26.

He’s suffering from advanced Parkinson’s Disease, and of late has only allowed customers by appointment rather than regular hours.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:20:35am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

Yep….I was right.

reuters.com

A recipe for disaster - a tanking economy owing to low oil prices and a badly underfunded healthcare system…and now a highly-contagious respiratory disease circulating in the capital (and probably the other big metro areas as well).

Putin’s got his hands full now.

If they do impose authoritarian measures, at least we can be assured that they will be observed…

But yeah, this could be enough to tip their whole economy into a major tailspin…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:24:23am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If they do impose authoritarian measures, at least we can be assured that they will be observed…

But yeah, this could be enough to tip their whole economy into a major tailspin…

You wouldn’t know oil has cratered based on gasoline prices around here (still around $3 a gallon).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:25:37am

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🏡

You wouldn’t know oil has cratered based on gasoline prices around here (still around $3 a gallon).

consumers are the last to see any relief from lower oil prices…

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:28:13am

re: #5 Sherlock Hound

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:30:25am

re: #180 Patricia Kayden
(Image from PragerU)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:31:38am

re: #180 Patricia Kayden

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Prager and all these idiots are going to get people killed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:36:05am

Yes, people die in wars. But what are we asking them to die for? To liberate oppressed people, or to defend someone else’s property and portfolio?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:37:29am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

To die for what? To liberate oppressed people? Or to defend someone else’s property and portfolio?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:42:04am

re: #18 gocart mozart

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it is far more lethal
it is far more transmissible
the symptoms are different
the individual responses are different
the treatments (such that they are) are different

the only comparison to the seasonal flu is that it is a virus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:44:28am

Thread, four tweets.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:44:55am

Quid pro corona

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:48:19am

Lynchburg Mayor Treney Tweedy is criticizing Jerry Falwell Jr.’s response to the coronavirus outbreak.

Lynchburg Mayor Treney Tweedy denounced the evangelical Christian university’s decision to allow students back on campus after spring break, calling it “reckless.”

“We are in the midst of a public health crisis,” Tweedy said Tuesday. “I am concerned for the students, faculty and employees at Liberty University, and I am also very concerned for the residents of the Lynchburg community.”

(more)

huffpost.com

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:51:21am

The Department of Homeland Security stopped updating its annual models of the havoc that pandemics would wreak on America’s critical infrastructure in 2017,” Politico reports.

“From at least 2005 to 2017, an office inside DHS, in tandem with analysts and supercomputers at several national laboratories, produced detailed analyses of what would happen to everything from transportation systems to hospitals if a pandemic hit the United States.”

“But the work abruptly stopped in 2017 amid a bureaucratic dispute over its value, two of the former officials said, leaving the department flat-footed as it seeks to stay ahead of the impacts the COVID-19 outbreak is having on vast swathes of the U.S. economy.”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:53:46am

re: #186 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Yes, those margin calls will hurt.

My feelings on that:

Playing a Sad Tune on Tiny Violin

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:54:09am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:59:05am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, people die in wars. But what are we asking them to die for? To liberate oppressed people, or to defend someone else’s property and portfolio?

Nothing is more important to the GOP than protecting the wealth of its donor class. Nothing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:59:27am

Frontier School of the Bible (the private Bible school in La Grange, Wyo. where parents send their children for a few more years to prevent them from seeing the real world by isolating them out in the middle of nowhere, and which teaches you EXACTLY how to think about the Bible) will remain open.

There are numerous events planned for the next few weeks, including retreats, and a talent show on March 28.

FSB is wildly expensive to get a degree which cannot be used outside right-wing Christian churches.

La Grange (pop 300 not counting the college) is three miles west of Nebraska, and 79 miles from my house.
google.com

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:59:54am

re: #84 ckkatz

It is so easy to get really stressed by the craziness of these days. Here are a few ideas. I encourage others on lgf to continue posting their self-care ideas.

You’re at Home. The News Is Intense. Make Time for Self-Care.
thewirecutter.com

Generally, I unplug and do things that I can actually control and succeed at. Sometimes as small as taking a walk around the block. The down side is that I end up getting behind a couple of threads and it will take me a day or more to catch up.

Last project today was to successfully score some tp. (Actually that is for a friend and her daughter.) Locally, there is a FaceBook page [ facebook.com ] as well as a bunch NextDoor postings. Two reputed good local sources are Commercial Cleaning Supply Companies and local Asian supermarkets.

Remember it is a marathon not a sprint.

Be well and of good spirit!

Edit: Completed third paragraph.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:00:45am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Quid pro corona

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And how respectful was Trump to Obama?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:02:59am

re: #195 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And how respectful was Trump to Obama?

Since only Republican Presidents are legitimate, Democratic Presidents aren’t entitled to respect. /

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:04:36am
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BigPapa  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:04:50am

re: #192 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Nothing is more important to the GOP than protecting the wealth of its donor class. Nothing.

Wealth is coveted above all else. Jesus would not be pleased.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:06:09am

cnbc - hopefully it’s true

- President Trump’s businesses are barred from getting loans or investments under the new $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus deal, according to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.

- Democrats and other critics of the president were concerned that Trump’s businesses would receive bailout money because the tourism industry is one of the hardest hit by the coronavirus.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:06:37am

re: #174 Dr Lizardo

Yep….I was right.

reuters.com

A recipe for disaster - a tanking economy owing to low oil prices and a badly underfunded healthcare system…and now a highly-contagious respiratory disease circulating in the capital (and probably the other big metro areas as well).

Putin’s got his hands full now.

May the revolution fall on him, hard.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:08:28am

Idaho is up to 73 cases of COVID-19. No related deaths yet.

COVID-19 in Idaho

My County (Twin Falls) is still holding at 1 confirmed.

Ada (22) and Blaine (33) are the current hot spots. Blaine is under a mandatory shelter in place order.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:09:15am

re: #197 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Assorted downloadable posters
goodliars.com

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:12:31am

Let’s all keep our fingers crossed and hope that things were under control in Hubei Province, China….because those people are now leaving en masse.

Huge crowds jammed trains and buses in Hubei province on Wednesday as people seized their first chance to travel after two months under lockdown at the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak.

Strict curbs on daily life are finally being lifted, allowing healthy people to head home and see loved ones after weeks of separation.

At a railway station in the city of Macheng, there were long queues of people lugging suitcases in the rain as they queued for trains.

news.rthk.hk

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:12:48am

re: #196 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Since only Republican Presidents are legitimate, Democratic Presidents aren’t entitled to respect. /

Oh good. It’s settled now./

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:12:51am

re: #180 Patricia Kayden

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Interesting that so many religious “conservatives” have turned out to not really value [your] life at all.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:14:02am

In other news - I got out of bed early this morning and went to my local Stop & Shop to take advantage of the special shopping hours for Olds. Pretty empty, but the only thing on my list that I didn’t get was sour cream. Even ran into a photographer friend from the clubs, out on his day job delivering organic food. We had a nice chat, bitching about no gigs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:19:49am

Just posted at the Omaha World-Herald:

Latest Nebraska coronavirus cases involve assisted living facility, additional community spread

Blair is near Omaha in Washington County.

Nebraska’s latest cases of the coronavirus disease include two residents of an assisted living facility in Blair, one of whom has been hospitalized.

Four new cases were reported Tuesday, bringing the state’s total to 66. Also on Tuesday, Douglas County announced that another case of community spread has been found in the county.

Omaha is the Douglas County seat.

In Washington County, a woman in her 90s is self-isolating in her room at the Blair assisted living facility. A man in his 70s from the facility has been hospitalized.

Other cases range in age from 30s to 70s. More at the link.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:24:10am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:24:21am

Fucking idiot.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:26:42am

The New York Times editorial board:

… has urged President Trump to immediately call for a two-week shelter-in-place order nationwide “to protect Americans and their livelihoods” amid the coronavirus pandemic. If Trump doesn’t act decisively — and now — “devastating loss of life and prolonged, widespread economic pain” could be ahead, the board warned.

In the op-ed, published Tuesday, the board said the worst of the virus crisis had yet to hit the United States — and stressed that Trump’s desire to open the country’s economy by Easter, which falls on April 12 this year, was short-sighted.

“Everyone shares Mr. Trump’s concern for the economy. But this is not a moment for mere salesmanship, for conjuring a cheerful vision rather than facing reality. It’s a moment for providing a plan,” the board wrote.

“This crisis has not turned a corner — it hasn’t even hit yet,” it added.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:28:31am

glenn beck… idiot

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:29:49am
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Teukka  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:30:00am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Jim Cramer Suggests Uninfected Should Wear A Star On Their Clothes (Crooks & Liars)

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(more at C&L)

*sprays coffee on computer monitor*

What the everloving fuck?

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Teukka  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:31:40am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Jim Cramer Suggests Uninfected Should Wear A Star On Their Clothes (Crooks & Liars)

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(more at C&L)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:32:46am

re: #198 BigPapa

Wealth is coveted above all else. Jesus would not be pleased.

Free Market Jesus would be delighted. He would fire his AR-15 in the air in divine celebration…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:33:21am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:34:43am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Jim Cramer Suggests Uninfected Should Wear A Star On Their Clothes (Crooks & Liars)

but then how would we know who’s jewish? //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:35:48am

“uninfected” means “untested and asymptomatic”.

that is doubly sick

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:35:53am

re: #209 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Fucking idiot.

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Because he hasn’t showed any symptoms or been around people who have tested positive unlike you Typhoid Donny.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:36:12am

re: #216 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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this isnt gonna be over in 9 months
they aint gonna be birthing them in hospitals

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:37:39am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:40:15am

Okay maybe I just might move to Connemara eventually anyhow. So an Irish friend from the genealogy community discovered Laura Ingraham’s idiotic tweet and that Laura is pretty well known. I explained yeah and amazingly Laura is an Ivy educated lawyer as well as a huge Trump ally. She was astonished. Then she said there is no really like Laura in Ireland doing what our right wing hucksters are doing. Needless to say I was happy to hear that.

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jeffreyw  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:41:20am

Good morning!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:42:49am

re: #221 Patricia Kayden

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I turn 33 this year. I’m trying to go out in public too much and as an EMT, Christell is definitely in better shape than me. Trump wants Easter so he can act like he’s performed a miracle. It’s more sick shit from his “faith advisers” who care more about deifying Trump than helping the country and planet.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:46:33am

re: #224 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I turn 33 this year. I’m trying to go out in public too much and as an EMT, Christell is definitely in better shape than me. Trump wants Easter so he can act like he’s performed a miracle. It’s more sick shit from his “faith advisers” who care more about deifying Trump than helping the country and planet.

fuck trump and the party he rode in on
im not leaving the house

not for him or anyone else
the virus doesnt care

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:46:42am

re: #209 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Fucking idiot.

Are you referring to his decorative apostrophe? /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:47:25am

^VIX over 65. Let’s see how long yesterday’s gain on the DOW holds.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:47:56am

re: #211 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

glenn beck… idiot

Sure, dude, just come from behind those plexiglass tv booth protection you got there and we’ll make sure you get some.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:49:38am

re: #205 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Interesting that so many religious “conservatives” have turned out to not really value [your] life at all.

you too buddy, just come out from behind your protective booth there and we’ll make you part of the war.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:50:12am

BOOM!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:52:30am

As Dow wipes out over 3 years of stock-market gains, here’s a warning about calling the bottom (Marketwatch)

How much worse can it get?

That’s a question many investors are undoubtedly asking themselves after a week of historic volatility that saw stocks suffer another pummeling and drove the Dow Jones Industrial Average to its lowest close since December 2016 as the global COVID-19 pandemic promises to push the world into recession.

After all that, some investors might feel a strong temptation once the market finally shows some stability to declare that the lows are in. But some Wall Street veterans have a word of advice: Don’t!

“First, let’s acknowledge that none of us can predict when the market will bottom,” said Brian Levitt, global market strategist at Invesco, in a Friday note.

“The number of new COVID-19 cases will likely need to peak before we get there. That’s a question for the epidemiologists to answer and a challenge for Americans and global citizens to take social distancing and/or isolation seriously,” he wrote.

(more)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:54:35am

re: #226 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Are you referring to his decorative apostrophe? /s

Maybe. //

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:55:46am

re: #228 Sir John Barron

Sure, dude, just come from behind those plexiglass tv booth protection you got there and we’ll make sure you get some.

its the same old story

you can do whatever you want
dont require me to do it
and dont hurt, infect or otherwise involve anyone else in your folly

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:56:57am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:00:08am

The sun is up - time for bed. Catch y’all later.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:01:06am

Other happy news…my town is currently the town with the highest number of COVID cases in Suffolk County. Yay.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:01:30am

re: #222 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Okay maybe I just might move to Connemara eventually anyhow. So an Irish friend from the genealogy community discovered Laura Ingraham’s idiotic tweet and that Laura is pretty well known. I explained yeah and amazingly Laura is an Ivy educated lawyer as well as a huge Trump ally. She was astonished. Then she said there is no really like Laura in Ireland doing what our right wing hucksters are doing. Needless to say I was happy to hear that.

There are plenty of bigots and idiots in Northern Ireland…

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:02:17am

re: #27 Dread Pirate

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Trump’s dumbfuckery is going to hamstring our military because no one thought to do preventative testing or isolation.

They’re too busy trying to scapegoat NY when there are nationwide cases, and anyone traveling anywhere can be a potential carrier because of the lack of testing.

Add this to the countless failures of Trumpworld to address the pandemic. He continues to halfass this whole thing.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:02:29am

Fuck. Off to a flying start today.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:04:30am

re: #238 lawhawk

Trump’s dumbfuckery is going to hamstring our military because no one thought to do preventative testing or isolation.

They’re too busy trying to scapegoat NY when there are nationwide cases, and anyone traveling anywhere can be a potential carrier because of the lack of testing.

Add this to the countless failures of Trumpworld to address the pandemic. He continues to halfass this whole thing.

they do not have a handle on this
they are flailing because this is so far over their amateur heads

the totally clueless and inept showman has surrounded himself with a totally clueless and inept administration

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:04:36am

re: #230 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

BOOM!

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There’s Biden. Not that he ever actually disappeared.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:05:24am

re: #239 makeitstop

Fuck. Off to a flying start today.

The local fire department is currently busy, could you please move your burning house to a different city?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:06:20am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are plenty of bigots and idiots in Northern Ireland…

She was talking about the ROI which unlike us and NI has a sane head of state and not a media of sensationalist jagoffs.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:08:50am

re: #239 makeitstop

Fuck. Off to a flying start today.

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I was gonna head up to NYC next Friday to visit friends. That ship sailed a few weeks ago though. I’m not gonna risk my friends getting sick. Besides we’ve been all communicating on Zoom. Wish the idiots who want to get shitfaced thought of that.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:10:34am

re: #239 makeitstop

Fuck. Off to a flying start today.

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They’re starting to have to triage patients.

Imagine what’s gonna happen when this hits areas that have poor access to healthcare. Places (particularly in the Deep South) where hospitals in rural areas have closed their doors.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:11:38am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:12:25am

re: #246 makeitstop

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They’re not doing anything useful right now anyhow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:15:00am

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

They’re starting to have to triage patients.

Imagine what’s gonna happen when this hits areas that have poor access to healthcare. Places (particularly in the Deep South) where hospitals in rural areas have closed their doors.

you mean when they start having to turn patients away from overburdened facilities and enraged relatives start turning up to secure beds for their loved ones using Second Amendment methods?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:15:25am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:18:11am

re: #249 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Well Glenn you can always sacrifice yourself on the liberty tree. I’ll even buy you the rope.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:18:19am

no, we’re not popping champagne or anything
i just liked the bolded part

Rachel Bitecofer’s latest forecast shows Democrats winning the Electoral College, 289 to 181 with 69 electoral votes still up for grabs.

“If Trump had political capital to spend heading into this crisis, that would be one thing. But after the Russia investigation was followed in short order by the Ukraine scandal, Trump’s political capital tank is already on empty, with few Americans outside of Republicans capable of trusting him. Trump will be heading into the fall with the dubious distinction of being the most embattled, controversial, and scandal-plagued president to seek reelection in the history of the republic — and that was before this virus emerged to create a massive public health disaster and destroy his strongest claim for reelection: the economy.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:22:50am

re: #251 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

no, we’re not popping champagne or anything
i just liked the bolded part

Been saying this since 2017. He’s an uniquely disadvantaged incumbent because he actually has to defend his record instead of acting like he’s Mr. I’ll fix everything. He’s NOT defeated but if we pull together, he I feel not only can be beaten but can be annihilated at the polls.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:23:00am

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹🏡

As Dow wipes out over 3 years of stock-market gains, here’s a warning about calling the bottom (Marketwatch)

(more)

Dow futures are down.

Global markets are starting to cool on the massive US stimulus deal

TBH, reading that article is nothing but contradictions.

New York/ Hong Kong/ London (CNN Business)A rally on global markets lost steam Wednesday despite news from Washington that lawmakers had reached agreement on a sweeping $2 trillion economic stimulus package that will help support companies and workers harmed by the coronavirus pandemic.

Dow futures initially surged but were last down 142 points, or 0.7%, suggesting the index would sink following a rally on Tuesday that saw it notch up its biggest point gain on record and its biggest percentage increase since 1933. Nasdaq and S&P 500 futures also pointed lower.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:23:14am

man’s a sociopathic pig

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:23:39am

re: #236 makeitstop

Other happy news…my town is currently the town with the highest number of COVID cases in Suffolk County. Yay.

CONGRAT…oh shit. Sorry.

/black humor

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:23:57am

re: #252 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Been saying this since 2017. He’s an uniquely disadvantaged incumbent because he actually has to defend his record instead of acting like he’s Mr. I’ll fix everything. He’s NOT defeated but if we pull together, he I feel not only can be beaten but can be annihilated at the polls.

my new favorite word

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:24:32am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you mean when they start having to turn patients away from overburdened facilities and enraged relatives start turning up to secure beds for their loved ones using Second Amendment methods?

Yeah, there’s definitely some parts of America where I could see that happening.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:27:14am

attacking R state (my state) governors who arent measuring up. could be a smart move.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:29:23am

re: #254 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

man’s a sociopathic pig

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I don’t like Mitt but the dipshit couldn’t even mention that Mitt is a father, husband, and grandfather. Everything is about his petty grievances and I hope we as a country soundly reject him and send him home to spend more time with his attorneys and then cellmates.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:29:32am

Trump missed a chance to make this a rally-around the President thing, which I can only assume are reasons of complete incompetence and imperviousness to expert advice, and now he has to convince us to sacrifice lives to prop up the Economy.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:31:19am

tesla
ford
GM
fiat chrysler

all making masks and working on ventilator solutions too

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:31:42am

re: #256 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

my new favorite word

I want him humiliated to the point that even right wing media think he’s a loser.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:32:24am

re: #261 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

tesla
ford
GM
fiat chrysler

all making masks and working on ventilator solutions too

with or without the Defense Appropriations Act?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:32:47am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

with or without the Defense Appropriations Act?

Without.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:33:27am

re: #261 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

tesla
ford
GM
fiat chrysler

all making masks and working on ventilator solutions too

it was either Ford or GM yesterday that said MAY at the earliest. You can’t just get parts and retool your lines easily.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:33:48am

re: #262 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I want him humiliated to the point that even right wing media think he’s a loser.

cannot see that happening, these people do not retreat, they reload

as it is, the “American Resurrection” back-to-work order at Easter seems to be they major ploy: pitting “Patriotic Christian” Americans against “secularist traitors” with a lot of poor and desperate people stuck in the middle.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:34:17am

I was only able to fit 3/4 of them into a single tweet, so I gave up
(ran out of characters part way through #13)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:34:24am

re: #264 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Without.

in other words, they could have started doing this weeks ago if Trump had invoked the DAA

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:34:31am

re: #266 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

cannot see that happening, these people do not retreat, they reload

as it is, the “American Resurrection” back-to-work order at Easter seems to be they major ploy: pitting “Patriotic Christian” Americans against “secularist traitors” with a lot of poor and desperate people stuck in the middle.

Hyperbole, look it up please.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:35:52am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump missed a chance to make this a rally-around the President thing, which I can only assume are reasons of complete incompetence and imperviousness to expert advice, and now he has to convince us to sacrifice lives to prop up the Economy.

add to that his being a sociopath, so no consideration of anyone else

and that he was totally unsuited for the job in the first place - he doesnt have the kind of thought process, strategic and otherwise, for the presidential chair

hows a hack real estate ‘developer’ amateur failed businessman no experience reality ‘personality’ supposed to think through a complex situation like this one

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Kilroy was here  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:36:05am

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:36:10am

re: #262 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I want him humiliated to the point that even right wing media think he’s a loser.

If he loses this November, they’ll immediately condemn him as a “loser” and move on in their search for a new messiah.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:36:28am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:36:49am

re: #262 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I want him humiliated to the point that even right wing media think he’s a loser.

well imo they’ll never do that
they’ll just quietly stop writing about him - while he obsessively tweets away till he dies

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:38:02am

re: #267 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I was only able to fit 3/4 of them into a single tweet, so I gave up
(ran out of characters part way through #13)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:38:16am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

in other words, they could have started doing this weeks ago if Trump had invoked the DAA

The Chamber of Commerce is against it so…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:38:27am

re: #272 Dr Lizardo

If he loses this November, they’ll immediately condemn him as a “loser” and move on in their search for a new messiah.

Yep. And the best part of it will be Trump watching those he thought were friends ditch him faster than world leaders avoid Ivanka talking about issues of importance.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:39:10am

re: #255 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

My town has 67 cases. We have a helicopter flying overhead from the local news outlets because the Bergen County testing site is about a mile away. So, that’s my wakeup call at 6ish in the am. The testing site closes within minutes of opening because they’ve maxed out for the day.

New drive-thru sites are now opening up elsewhere in NJ, but they too will max out because of rationing of tests. People are waiting out all night in their cars queued up to get tested because they’re rationing them (this itself can make a bad situation worse for them).

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:39:18am

re: #274 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

well imo they’ll never do that
they’ll just quietly stop writing about him - while he obsessively tweets away till he dies

Silence is golden. At least we won’t have to see dumbshit about how Trump is our savior.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:40:16am

The new Senate bill excludes elected officials and their family members from receiving any money from the $500B set aside for business, which means the Trump family won’t get any of the money.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:40:26am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

with or without the Defense Appropriations Act?

right now it looks like without
they’re just taking the lead

here are three of lots of stories

theverge.com

usatoday.com

techcrunch.com

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:42:25am

re: #267 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I was only able to fit 3/4 of them into a single tweet, so I gave up
(ran out of characters part way through #13)

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YouTube

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:42:33am

re: #255 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

CONGRAT…oh shit. Sorry.

/black humor

Yeah, we’re number one…we’re number one…

It’s odd, because the initial outbreak out here was on Long Island’s North Fork, where a lot of the moneyed crowd hangs out. But it seems to have moved inland - probably due to our town having a couple of big hospitals. That’s my best guess, anyway.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:42:51am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump missed a chance to make this a rally-around the President thing, which I can only assume are reasons of complete incompetence and imperviousness to expert advice, and now he has to convince us to sacrifice lives to prop up the Economy.

You have to be capable of that in your character. I mean Bush was awful but I know why he was able to rally the nation after 9/11 because he didn’t turn everything into his personal grievances. I can’t imagine him bashing then Governor Warner after the Pentagon was hit or during the sniper attacks here. Trump benefited immensely from the empty slate of sexism that his entire candidacy benefited from the start.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:44:10am

re: #28 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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How many times must I see Fat Fuck Prager in this thread?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:45:22am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:46:03am

re: #285 Joe Bacon 🌹

I have no idea. He is making news so I think you would be seeing for the near future. :(

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:46:09am

re: #260 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump missed a chance to make this a rally-around the President thing, which I can only assume are reasons of complete incompetence and imperviousness to expert advice, and now he has to convince us to sacrifice lives to prop up the Economy.

When he couldn’t even pick up the cue when that reporter lobbed that softball about what he’d say to people who are scared and instead attacked the reporter and his question, it became even more obvious that he’s incapable of seeing past his own need to be loved.

It’s gotta suck to go through life like that, but I still hope every one of his remaining days is the worst of his miserable life.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:47:14am

re: #288 makeitstop

Amen.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:48:14am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

in other words, they could have started doing this weeks ago if Trump had invoked the DAA

We could have started seeing ventilators next month if Trump had done this back when every intelligent person was saying this was going to be a pandemic.

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Teukka  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:48:26am

In other news, this weeks horoscope:

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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:48:36am

I’ll just leave this here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:48:38am

re: #280 Belafon

The new Senate bill excludes elected officials and their family members from receiving any money from the $500B set aside for business, which means the Trump family won’t get any of the money.

with a sum that big, they will be able to set up enough shell corporations to see that the money ends up their pockets after it passes through several hands…

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:49:19am

re: #291 Teukka

lol. I figured as much.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:49:36am

This should make the mango menace’s day better…

Judge rules lawsuit alleging Trump threatened free press can move forward
A federal judge on Tuesday ruled that some of the claims in a literary advocacy group’s lawsuit against President Trump over his threats to retaliate against critical media coverage can proceed.

U.S. District Judge Lorna Schofield wrote in a 24-page opinion that PEN America had a “constitutional standing” to pursue claims for declaratory relief against Trump’s practice of “selectively barring access” to the White House press corps, including by “revoking or threatening to revoke press credentials due to hostility to the reporters’ speech.”

Schofield also ruled that the case could proceed on allegations that Trump revoked or threatened to revoke security clearances for government officials he dislikes.

Fingers crossed this drives him nuts…

thehill.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:49:47am

IT WORKED!

/

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:49:54am

re: #275 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Know what you mean with the last one. I’ve been here in Jacksonville for almost 15 years. More than double my second longest stretch.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:52:07am

re: #284 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You have to be capable of that in your character. I mean Bush was awful but I know why he was able to rally the nation after 9/11 because he didn’t turn everything into his personal grievances. I can’t imagine him bashing then Governor Warner after the Pentagon was hit or during the sniper attacks here. Trump benefited immensely from the empty slate of sexism that his entire candidacy benefited from the start.

Trump’s approval has improved slightly, but he is still underwater and is not seeing the kind of “rally around the flag” effect many Presidents have experienced in crises. Let us hope Biden stays healthy.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:53:06am

re: #292 Dave In Austin

Trump was there?

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:53:15am

re: #283 makeitstop

Yeah, we’re number one…we’re number one…

It’s odd, because the initial outbreak out here was on Long Island’s North Fork, where a lot of the moneyed crowd hangs out. But it seems to have moved inland - probably due to our town having a couple of big hospitals. That’s my best guess, anyway.

There was a story the other day about people from the wealthy part of NY moving away from their area after cases were confirmed, taking the virus with them.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:53:58am

re: #300 Belafon

There was a story the other day about people from the wealthy part of NY moving away from their area after cases were confirmed, taking the virus with them.

I wanted to read that but it was paywalled. And I refuse to give the NYT a goddamned penny.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:54:00am

For Downton Abbey fans who live in the Greater Philadelphia area, the local PBS station WHYY is re-running the last episode at 3:30 PM Channel 12.2

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:54:09am

In other news, Louisiana is getting particularly hard hit by COVID19. It’s a deep red state with a Democratic governor.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:54:57am

re: #291 Teukka

In other news, this weeks horoscope:

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Nope. I work for an essential business and cannot do my work at home. We just have crews cleaning everything often.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:55:00am

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

In other news, Louisiana is getting particularly hard hit by COVID19. It’s a deep red state with a Democratic governor.

Atlanta is in bad shape, too.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:55:00am

Lre: #298 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump’s approval has improved slightly, but he is still underwater and is not seeing the kind of “rally around the flag” effect many Presidents have experienced in crises. Let us hope Biden stays healthy.

Definitely. I know he’s talking with the Democratic governors and congressional leaders. Trump’s problems are Trump. He’s the one who chose to listen to his pencil dick son in law and airhead daughter than experts.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:55:13am

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

In other news, Louisiana is getting particularly hard hit by COVID19. It’s a deep red state with a Democratic governor.

Mardi Gras was a covid-19 party.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:56:17am

re: #262 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I want him humiliated to the point that even right wing media think he’s a loser.

Not possible.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:56:41am

re: #301 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I wanted to read that but it was paywalled. And I refuse to give the NYT a goddamned penny.

There’s another version of the story in the NY post. And it’s not paywalled.

Also, this related story, about how the wealthy are shafting working class folks who live in the Hamptons full time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:58:14am

re: #307 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Mardi Gras was a covid-19 party.

I’m sure that’s part of it. Fat Tuesday was 2/25/2020 which was just before all the shit started hitting the fan. I was watching the Bourbon Street live cam on and off that day and the place was fucking packed.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:00:04am

re: #281 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

right now it looks like without
they’re just taking the lead

here are three of lots of stories

theverge.com

usatoday.com

techcrunch.com

see, don’t need gubmint

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:01:06am

re: #308 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Not possible.

It will be interesting to see how Fox News spins the collapse of our healthcare system as their viewers die gasping for air lying unattended on hospital floors.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:01:24am

re: #300 Belafon

There was a story the other day about people from the wealthy part of NY moving away from their area after cases were confirmed, taking the virus with them.

Yeah. Apparently being rich doesn’t always equate with being smart.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:01:38am

re: #274 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

well imo they’ll never do that
they’ll just quietly stop writing about him - while he obsessively tweets away till he dies

Not going to happen. After he is out even Twitter will run away from him. I expect to see his account suspended the minute President Biden is sworn in.

(Fingers crossed)

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:01:51am

The front page of The Washington Post:
washingtonpost.com

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:04:15am

re: #313 makeitstop

Yeah. Apparently being rich doesn’t always equate with being smart.

Probably because a lot of them didn’t earn it, they inherited it. But being a neurosurgeon doesn’t mean you’re smart either, so…

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:04:27am

re: #300 Belafon

There was a story the other day about people from the wealthy part of NY moving away from their area after cases were confirmed, taking the virus with them.

That’s how it got to NY and other parts of the country. People are highly mobile. Business travelers moving worldwide. That’s how it works.

And now we’ve got these same people exposed and spreading it as they travel to their second/vacation homes, bringing covid19 with them.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:05:13am

re: #314 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Not going to happen. After he is out even Twitter will run away from him. I expect to see his account suspended the minute President Biden is sworn in.

(Fingers crossed)

I expect the account to get deleted either the day after the election or the day before he has to leave.

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:05:27am

re: #315 PhillyPretzel

The front page of The Washington Post:
washingtonpost.com

Something in the nature of goodish news at least. Wonder what compromises had to be made to get a final bill?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:05:57am

re: #309 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s another version of the story in the NY post. And it’s not paywalled.

Also, this related story, about how the wealthy are shafting working class folks who live in the Hamptons full time.

I think I am talking about a different story. The one I wanted to read was about some party that was held where everyone disbursed away and took the virus with them. It may have been in CT, not NY, but it was in the Times.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:06:21am

re: #315 PhillyPretzel

Spain’s death toll surpasses China’s. Italy’s death toll closes on 7000. We’re passing 800. And there’s no bending of the curve in the US anywhere since containment efforts have only had a few days or a week to be in place.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:06:48am

re: #312 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It will be interesting to see how Fox News spins the collapse of our healthcare system as their viewers die gasping for air lying unattended on hospital floors.

But they can die watching Hannity or Laura Ingraham, secure in the knowledge that their sacrifice will help President Bigly McCheeseman re-elected.

/// (sorta)

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:08:09am

An interesting anecdote (dailykos.com):

Today I stopped in to talk with a guy I work around at the shop that his work is centered around. He’s the boss. Since the last election, there’s been a 2016 Trump campaign banner up on the wall. I have never mentioned it, cause I need to keep a good relationship with him. His workers are right there with him politically. I just move on and take care of my business and act like that banner’s not up there.

But today, he mentioned that the president was going to try to open things back up in a couple of weeks. I said that the governor was not going to let that happen. Talking again about Trump, he said “Well you and I know it’s (the early re-opening of everything) never going to happen,” then went on talking about the governor and how he was making a real name for himself with his aggressive approach to the crisis. He was talking about Kentucky Democratic governor, Andy Beshear. At that point, I glanced over at the wall where the Trump campaign banner has been for over 3 years. It was no longer on the wall. It was no longer in the shop. It was simply no longer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:08:24am

re: #320 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I think I am talking about a different story. The one I wanted to read was about some party that was held where everyone disbursed away and took the virus with them. It may have been in CT, not NY, but it was in the Times.

nytimes.com

This is probably it. It’s not paywalled though.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:09:10am

Sadly, another COVID-19 death in Czech Republic - in this case, an 88-year-old man in home hospice care.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:09:29am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡

LOL, video, 0:17

[Embedded content]

So glad I’m wearing compression shorts and a tank top while I’m teleworking…

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:09:49am

re: #154 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

So the Republicans decided YOUR NANA HAS TO DIE!!!!! and they are saying DEMOCRATS WANT TO KILL YOUR NANA!!!!!!!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:10:19am

This story is also on the Post. O.M.F.G.

Millennials risk cheap flights amid coronavirus fears

The Manchester, England, resident later told NBC he agrees “the coronavirus is clearly something people need to be wary of, but I don’t plan on putting my life on hold because something is going around.”

For others, reduced airfare makes previously unaffordable reunions possible.

“If I die, I die. I miss my family,” 27-year-old Capri Nicole tells the outlet of the flight she just saved some $200 booking from Atlanta to Connecticut, so she can see her grandma on her 71st birthday.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:10:48am

re: #129 Dr Lizardo

They may well be hoping that, but the gangs that run the favelas have other ideas. They’re enforcing lockdown and social distancing.

It really says something when outright criminals have a better grasp of the seriousness of the situation than the goddamn elected president of the nation.

Or maybe our definition of what/who is criminal is kinda skewed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:12:27am

331
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:13:12am

re: #328 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This story is also on the Post. O.M.F.G.

Millennials risk cheap flights amid coronavirus fears

Shit, my brother and his wife canceled my niece’s birthday party because they wanted to play it safe with my parents and her mom and older relatives being there. I’m sure my niece was disappointed but she handled it very well.

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wrenchwench  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:13:35am

I received a phone call yesterday from ‘Restricted’, who said he was the president of the company I work for. He assured me that when the governor said everybody must stay home, she didn’t mean me. I have a piece of paper with a xerox of a letter from Restricted’s boss that says I may transit from home to work right out in the open, so long as I am carrying this piece of paper.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:13:44am

re: #328 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This story is also on the Post. O.M.F.G.

Millennials risk cheap flights amid coronavirus fears

It’s your grandmother who will die, idiot!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:16:35am

re: #286 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

[Embedded content]

Forget this idiocy
He will back down
It’s never gonna happen

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:16:53am

re: #332 wrenchwench

I received a phone call yesterday from ‘Restricted’, who said he was the president of the company I work for. He assured me that when the governor said everybody must stay home, she didn’t mean me. I have a piece of paper with a xerox of a letter from Restricted’s boss that says I may transit from home to work right out in the open, so long as I am carrying this piece of paper.

I have one of those. Because there are so many of us, traffic was just as crappy today as it was before the lockdowns.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:17:44am

re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg

nytimes.com

This is probably it. It’s not paywalled though.

That was it, thank you. I had to give an email address…I thought it was paywalled. Much appreciated!

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:17:54am

re: #334 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Forget this idiocy
He will back down
It’s never gonna happen

The current day my county is supposed to lift restrictions is the day after Easter, and I suspect that will have to be pushed out.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:18:06am

Stark contrast in leadership here in FL
DeSantis barely acknowledging the problem publicly, definitely not calling for a wide scale lockdown
Jacksonville’s Mayor (also a Rep) threatening to condemn buildings, shut off utilities if companies don’t make an effort to have employees work from home or spread workers apart if they absolutely must report to work

Also, apparently they’ve drawn ~1100 samples for testing here in JAX. I assume many test results are pending, since only 50 cases have been reported (with 12 hospitalizations & 3 deaths)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:19:39am

re: #334 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Forget this idiocy
He will back down
It’s never gonna happen

[Embedded content]

You think so? I am not so sure.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:19:52am

re: #334 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Forget this idiocy
He will back down
It’s never gonna happen

the next month should be interesting as the maga hats are bored after a week of not shopping and want to open things up again.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:20:51am

re: #314 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Not going to happen. After he is out even Twitter will run away from him. I expect to see his account suspended the minute President Biden is sworn in.

(Fingers crossed)

You may be right

And he’ll sue 5 minutes later and make the news

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:21:38am

I’ll admit I once thought that Trump would, or at least possibly could, emerge into something like presidential if for no reason than because that was the damn job.

Then I once thought that maybe he might get real about the job when a real crisis struck.

It’s amazing how naive I was. So young and impressionable.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:22:20am

re: #330 Joe Bacon 🌹

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:22:41am

re: #330 Joe Bacon 🌹

Would you like to know more? /

Join the Mobile Infantry. Service guarantees citizenship (and a glorious (read horrible) death on big K).

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wrenchwench  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:22:55am

re: #335 Belafon

I have one of those. Because there are so many of us, traffic was just as crappy today as it was before the lockdowns.

The sidewalks are OK. Some cross the street when sharing looks imminent. I will leave my measuring tape at home. What I think would be cute sarcasm can be taken as aggressive stupidity.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:23:04am

But, they’re not shooting at Americans. So the de-escalation is working

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:23:21am

Just saw on the front page of The Washington Post, Prince Charles has tested positive for the virus.

It looks like William will be King before his dad.

348
makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:23:43am

Is it me, or is Uncle Daddy Vlad looking a little peaked in this photo?

re: #320 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I think I am talking about a different story. The one I wanted to read was about some party that was held where everyone disbursed away and took the virus with them. It may have been in CT, not NY, but it was in the Times.

That was in Westport, CT. I read the story, it’s crazy how fast the virus took hold in that town. Like two days, tops.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:25:52am

re: #348 makeitstop

Is it me, or is Uncle Daddy Vlad looking a little peaked in this photo?

[Embedded content]

That was in Westport, CT. I read the story, it’s crazy how fast the virus took hold in that town. Like two days, tops.

If Putin fell victim to COVID-19, holy shit, it’d get nuts in Russia. The classic jockeying for power in the Kremlin would go full swing.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:27:09am

re: #349 Dr Lizardo

Crazier than it is now yes.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:28:09am

re: #339 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

You think so? I am not so sure.

I think it’s theater. Easter will come and go with no grand re-opening.

Then he’ll blame state governments for it not happening.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:29:18am

re: #337 Belafon

The current day my county is supposed to lift restrictions is the day after Easter, and I suspect that will have to be pushed out.

from today’s electoral-vote.com - some reasons why

The first problem is that people are still so frightened right now that they’re stockpiling toilet paper, water, and guns. You can’t just flip a switch on that. Further, many state governors continue to take COVID-19 very seriously, and would surely ignore any orders from the President that they deem unwise…There are few things he hates more than losing face.

The second, and more obvious, political problem is what happens if Trump encourages people to resume their daily lives, some of them do so, and then the epidemic gets noticeably worse…It would be as close to a scientifically controlled experiment as you can get in politics. Those spikes would be (with good reason) laid at the President’s doorstep.

a much better indicator (if there is one at all) - look at when all the primaries have been rescheduled (to)

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:29:27am

re: #351 makeitstop

Of course DT is perfect so the blame goes to the states.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:30:12am

re: #341 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

You may be right

And he’ll sue 5 minutes later and make the news

And it will be tossed 5 minutes after that as @jack shows beyond reasonable doubt that he violated the TOS of Twitter. I know, I know. He should have been tossed years ago. On the other hand tRump may no even try it as he’ll have other more important things to do. Like fleeing the Country to someplace without an extradition treaty with the United States.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:30:45am

re: #280 Belafon

That we know of. Don’t think for a second that Trump won’t try.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:31:31am

re: #341 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

You may be right

And he’ll sue 5 minutes later and make the news

The Trump cult isn’t going anywhere, and Jack will not suspend the orange shitgibbon’s account.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:32:33am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:32:44am

re: #342 Sir John Barron

I’ll admit I once thought that Trump would, or at least possibly could, emerge into something like presidential if for no reason than because that was the damn job.

Then I once thought that maybe he might get real about the job when a real crisis struck.

It’s amazing how naive I was. So young and impressionable.

part of that is his personality - he’s not wired that way
part of that is the force of his personality on other people and how he’s made the entire R party and the media codependent. they coddle and enable him every step of the way so there’s no need to ‘pivot’ or become presidential, or whatever

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garzooma  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:32:46am

re: #352 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

from today’s electoral-vote.com - some reasons why

a much better indicator (if there is one at all) - look at when all the primaries have been rescheduled (to)

Princeton cancelled Reunions, which were scheduled for the end of May.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:32:57am

re: #356 NO SMOCKING GUN!

True. DT has a cult-like following and people will demand to hear from their “dear leader.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:32:59am

re: #347 PhillyPretzel

Just saw on the front page of The Washington Post, Prince Charles has tested positive for the virus.

It looks like William will be King before his dad.

Only experiencing mild symptoms.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:35:55am

re: #356 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The Trump cult isn’t going anywhere, and Jack will not suspend the orange shitgibbon’s account.

History has shown otherwise. See Bush, George W.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:36:48am

re: #354 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

And it will be tossed 5 minutes after that as @jack shows beyond reasonable doubt that he violated the TOS of Twitter. I know, I know. He should have been tossed years ago. On the other hand tRump may no even try it as he’ll have other more important things to do. Like fleeing the Country to someplace without an extradition treaty with the United States.

We can only hope

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:36:58am

re: #361 NO SMOCKING GUN!

So far. His mum one huge germaphobe. She will be calling him over the phone.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:37:22am

re: #223 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Feels not like a hump day.

I like birdwatching too.
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:37:47am

re: #356 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The Trump cult isn’t going anywhere, and Jack will not suspend the orange shitgibbon’s account.

$<—————————

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:38:16am
368
Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:40:20am

re: #299 lawhawk

Naw. I know I’m way to cryptic, It’s not about Fat Donny other than he’s a POS.

It’s about the garden itself.

369
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:40:27am
370
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:40:42am

Some morning humor.

Also NSFW.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:41:25am

re: #367 Belafon

DT wants to be a “wartime president” he also wants his rallies. This is part of all of that.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:41:53am

re: #369 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Two of my mom’s cousins are nurses. My Dad’s sister is a retired nurse. Trump is so afraid of losing the only thing he thinks he has to legitimize his re-election, he’s willing to sacrifice our people. Fuck him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:42:17am

re: #371 PhillyPretzel

DT wants to be a “wartime president” he also wants his rallies. This is part of all of that.

After all this, I want Mar al Lago to be seized by the federal government as a crime scene.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:42:39am

re: #367 Belafon

Trump Derangement System hateful MAGA Forever!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:42:41am

re: #362 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

History has shown otherwise. See Bush, George W.

Dubya’s support wasn’t as cultish as Trump’s is.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:44:33am

re: #342 Sir John Barron

I’ll admit I once thought that Trump would, or at least possibly could, emerge into something like presidential if for no reason than because that was the damn job.

Then I once thought that maybe he might get real about the job when a real crisis struck.

It’s amazing how naive I was. So young and impressionable.

What did you think the first time you saw this:

Trump mocks reporter with disability

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:44:41am

re: #365 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:45:29am

re: #375 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Dubya’s support wasn’t as cultish as Trump’s is.

Dubya started losing them in 2006 when he revealed himself to be a decent person on immigration. I didn’t like the man. I found his aw shucks stuff annoying and I even went to Pennsylvania as a seventeen year old to canvas for Kerry but W never had the devoted falling that Trump did. It was often more supportive of the office than the man himself. I’d take W over Trump right now easily.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:45:50am

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹🏡

In the meantime, our local Lutheran church remains closed.

It remains to be seen whether they will hold Easter services, but if Nebraska stays the course with banning gatherings over ten, probably not.

My wife’s Lutheran church has not had services for 2 weeks and won’t until further notice.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:46:08am

re: #375 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Dubya’s support wasn’t as cultish as Trump’s is.

X20…… Not 100, but I’ll go 20.

What that man must be thinking right now.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:46:12am

re: #377 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

One way or another …

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:46:58am

re: #376 The Pie Overlord!

What did you think the first time you saw this:

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That and “I like people who aren’t captured”, I really thought it would discredit him. I thought Chris Christie would never make it in a GOP primary because his style wasn’t what I thought GOP voters would go far. I was right in that they would reject Christie. I was wrong in that they would reject the bombastic bully style. Trump defines the GOP for this generation and beyond and it needs to be brought up time and time again.

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lizardofid  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:47:12am

re: #348 makeitstop

Is it me, or is Uncle Daddy Vlad looking a little peaked in this photo?

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That was in Westport, CT. I read the story, it’s crazy how fast the virus took hold in that town. Like two days, tops.

Very “Weekend at Vladdy’s”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:47:52am

re: #379 Eventual Carrion

My wife’s Lutheran church has not had services for 2 weeks and won’t until further notice.

An Orthodox church that some of my distant relatives attend in NYC has been streaming services. Other churches I know have too.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:49:55am

re: #383 lizardofid

Very “Weekend at Vladdy’s”

It was pretty telling that Vlad pretty much made himself President of Russia for life. That country is going to be in chaos when he croaks. It already might be headed that way without him dying. And I for one hope Vlad is terrified. His shitty game of getting Trump elected because of his raging sexism and xenophobia and desire to get revenge on HRC and the West is why we are where we are.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:50:01am

re: #375 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Dubya’s support wasn’t as cultish as Trump’s is.

Time will tell. I think after he crashes and burns in November the maga(t)s will run from him faster than rats from a sinking ship. ymmv.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:51:15am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:52:08am

re: #386 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Time will tell. I think after he crashes and burns in November the maga(t)s will run from him faster than rats from a sinking ship. ymmv.

When did the Reagan cult begin? Because even during the Reagan presidency, there were Republicans willing to call him out when he acted stupid.

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unproven innocence  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:55:22am

About 20m ago: Chuck Schumer explains the new aid package.

Sen. Schumer Breaks Down Massive Coronavirus Aid Package | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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lizardofid  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:56:31am

re: #388 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

When did the Reagan cult begin? Because even during the Reagan presidency, there were Republicans willing to call him out when he acted stupid.

It could’ve been when Bush 41 didn’t live up to his “no new taxes”.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:56:47am

re: #387 Dave In Austin

It should be crocodile.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:57:10am

re: #389 unproven innocence

I agree with Sen Schumer about medical people.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:57:20am

re: #388 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

When did the Reagan cult begin? Because even during the Reagan presidency, there were Republicans willing to call him out when he acted stupid.

Because there used to be minimally racist Republicans.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:57:35am

re: #390 lizardofid

It could’ve been when Bush 41 didn’t live up to his “no new taxes”.

That makes sense. Really, in a lot of ways I think Trump has the worst traits of his predecessors times 1000 and none of their better ones.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:58:28am

re: #393 Belafon

Because there used to be minimally racist Republicans.

I didn’t know this but Biden apparently played a role along with Congressman Ron Dellums of overturning Ronnie’s veto of hte South African sanctions.

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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:58:46am

re: #356 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The Trump cult isn’t going anywhere, and Jack will not suspend the orange shitgibbon’s account.

I dunno, the Dubya cult disappeared pretty thoroughly. To the point he wasn’t even welcome at the 2008, 2012 or 2016 RNC.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:59:19am

re: #367 Belafon

They’ll still try to get around it by using shell companies.

Mark my words, they’ll try to get their cut no matter what. It’s what this crime syndicate does.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:00:07am

re: #396 sagehen

I dunno, the Dubya cult disappeared pretty thoroughly. To the point he wasn’t even welcome at the 2008, 2012 or 2016 RNC.

His nephew whom is my age trying to make himself as the Bush who likes Trump failed pretty miserably. I was glad to see that. I actually like W Bush’s daughters as people even though I think their father’s presidency was a big old mess.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:00:32am

re: #378 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Dubya started losing them in 2006 when he revealed himself to be a decent person on immigration. I didn’t like the man. I found his aw shucks stuff annoying and I even went to Pennsylvania as a seventeen year old to canvas for Kerry but W never had the devoted falling that Trump did. It was often more supportive of the office than the man himself. I’d take W over Trump right now easily.

Yeah Dubya was terrible, but at least he seemed capable of behaving like a human being with a sense of decency. Trump is just a dark void where a soul should be. Basically Randall Flag.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:01:18am

That fat son of a bitch better get off the goddamn dime. People are dying.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:01:29am

re: #389 unproven innocence

A huge thank you to Sen Schumer. And go home and get some rest you looked washed out.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:02:47am

re: #386 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Time will tell. I think after he crashes and burns in November the maga(t)s will run from him faster than rats from a sinking ship. ymmv.

Hope you are right. They will insist the election was rigged though, as will Trump.

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:03:53am

re: #387 Dave In Austin

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It could have escaped from a zoo!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:04:13am

re: #399 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yeah Dubya was terrible, but at least he seemed capable of behaving like a human being with a sense of decency. Trump is just a dark void where a soul should be. Basically Randall Flag.

Yeah I never saw him go out of his way to be a jerk to someone who had suffered a great loss. I mean he easily deserves the criticism he gets and Trump is going to make him look better than he should in history but I don’t recall him going out of his way to be callous. In fact, I saw some examples of the opposite where he understood that the criticism of him and his administration was about their actions. Him, Laura, Jenna, and Barbara were very gracious ot Barack, Michelle, Sasha, and Malia. And I think people who don’t understand why Michelle is friendly with W don’t get that. W never flirted with birtherism.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:04:26am

Did a grocery run this morning.

Local Wegmans has some very picked over areas, but also is stocked with some items, like some toilet paper, that were not there last week.

Much more produce than last week, but very little meat. Found salted butter, but not the yogurt I usually buy. And so forth. Everything is stocked up at least, and I also picked up prescriptions as well to cover that for another month.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:05:07am

re: #402 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Hope you are right. They will insist the election was rigged though, as will Trump.

That’s why I don’t want to hear people making excuses in bright red or blue states about not voting Biden. Every vote counts. Doesn’t matter if you’re in Virginia or Hawaii, vote this orange shit stain out.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:06:52am

re: #405 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

My local Acme stocks up on Thursday so I will be shopping tomorrow.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:08:30am

re: #399 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yeah Dubya was terrible, but at least he seemed capable of behaving like a human being with a sense of decency. Trump is just a dark void where a soul should be. Basically Randall Flag.

i like to think that he knew his limitations and he was in over his head

maybe

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:08:40am

Exponential growth.

This remains the math problem that the GOP and Trump keep failing. They keep thinking that if you throw enough money at economy, it’ll overcome the disease.

Covid19 doesn’t give a shit about stimulus packages. It only wants to spread. It is far more transmissible than the flu (or ebola). It keeps doubling at a predictable rate. The death toll keeps rising at a predictable rate.

Nothing is being done nationally to stop this. It’s a haphazard piecemeal approach at the state/local level, which means that even if NY stopped all new cases today, it’ll grow out of control everywhere else and circle back to NY because we’re still having domestic travel without sufficient (or any) screening).

All of this circles back to aggressive testing, availability of testing, and the rationing of testing that limits case identification to only those who are sickest. You can’t flatten the curve without aggressive testing and social distancing/isolation.

Two weeks from now, we’re going to be deep into the shit because Trump will point to a handful of states with handful of cases (except there’ll be millions of cases not captured in the case tally).

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lizardofid  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:10:26am

re: #399 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yeah Dubya was terrible, but at least he seemed capable of behaving like a human being with a sense of decency. Trump is just a dark void where a soul should be. Basically Randall Flag.

Stephen Miller
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:11:55am

re: #409 lawhawk

Exponential growth.

This remains the math problem that the GOP and Trump keep failing. They keep thinking that if you throw enough money at economy, it’ll overcome the disease.

Covid19 doesn’t give a shit about stimulus packages. It only wants to spread. It is far more transmissible than the flu (or ebola). It keeps doubling at a predictable rate. The death toll keeps rising at a predictable rate.

Nothing is being done nationally to stop this. It’s a haphazard piecemeal approach at the state/local level, which means that even if NY stopped all new cases today, it’ll grow out of control everywhere else and circle back to NY because we’re still having domestic travel without sufficient (or any) screening).

All of this circles back to aggressive testing, availability of testing, and the rationing of testing that limits case identification to only those who are sickest. You can’t flatten the curve without aggressive testing and social distancing/isolation.

Two weeks from now, we’re going to be deep into the shit because Trump will point to a handful of states with handful of cases (except there’ll be millions of cases not captured in the case tally).

there’s two ways to learn about known cases:
- testing
- people showing up at hospitals

you can not do the first and suppress the ‘official’ count
the second will happen anyway

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lizardofid  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:13:10am

re: #408 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i like to think that he knew his limitations and he was in over his head

maybe

Unfortunately, he looked for guidance in all the wrong places.

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steve_davis  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:13:39am

re: #43 Targetpractice

Oh, it’s almost a certainty that there will be arguments over the “true” number of dead from this outbreak for years to come. I say it’s almost a guarantee now that wingnuts will insist in years to come that the “deep state” deliberately inflated the numbers by recording deaths from other diseases/illnesses as due to this outbreak in order to hurt Trump’s “legacy.”

re: #348 makeitstop

Is it me, or is Uncle Daddy Vlad looking a little peaked in this photo?

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That was in Westport, CT. I read the story, it’s crazy how fast the virus took hold in that town. Like two days, tops.

yeah, that one looked intriguing. thank you, new york times, you glorious basterds, for paywalling that one.

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ericblair  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:13:52am

re: #385 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It was pretty telling that Vlad pretty much made himself President of Russia for life. That country is going to be in chaos when he croaks. It already might be headed that way without him dying. And I for one hope Vlad is terrified. His shitty game of getting Trump elected because of his raging sexism and xenophobia and desire to get revenge on HRC and the West is why we are where we are.

My understanding of the last couple of years in the Putinverse is that he’s tired, he’s never liked dealing with domestic issues, and he did start thinking about what happens after him. However, he can’t retire, because he’s a mob boss and dictator and his enemies would destroy him. So, he considers making himself head of a council that will let him keep dictator powers to protect himself, but let someone else be president.

And, that doesn’t go over very well with the oligarchs, because now they’re unsure of their “roof” that protects them from the other oligarchs. So, the council thing gets tossed and in a tearing hurry he jams through a constitutional change to let him have another two terms, because hey who cares. He thinks he needs to have a referendum on it to get the populus on board, and seemed to be shoving the coronovirus under the carpet until the referendum date, but that seems to be overtaken by events.

So, who knows now. The coronavirus is going to hit hard in a country with poor general health and a decrepit hospital system, with a large part of the population not taking any of this seriously and paranoid about interacting with the government (for good historical reason). Oh yeah, and the new oil war which has brought their main export down to $25/bbl and weakened the ruble. This is not what Putin signed up for, but fuck him and hope somehow the Russian people make it through OK.

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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:14:25am

re: #378 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Dubya started losing them in 2006 when he revealed himself to be a decent person on immigration. I didn’t like the man. I found his aw shucks stuff annoying and I even went to Pennsylvania as a seventeen year old to canvas for Kerry but W never had the devoted falling that Trump did. It was often more supportive of the office than the man himself. I’d take W over Trump right now easily.

Dubya started losing them with Katrina; Louisiana and Mississippi and Arkansas are very red states, and even without electricity they saw with their own eyes that the facts on the ground didn’t match what Fox was saying about the federal response.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:15:04am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:16:19am

Based on this, the numbers are going down.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:17:29am

re: #412 lizardofid

Unfortunately, he looked for guidance in all the wrong places.

yeah
that’s why i say he probably knew his limitations
bad judgement surely. but at least some self awareness

trump? not so much at all

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:19:41am

re: #321 lawhawk

Spain’s death toll surpasses China’s. Italy’s death toll closes on 7000. We’re passing 800. And there’s no bending of the curve in the US anywhere since containment efforts have only had a few days or a week to be in place.

It’s just one little spot, but the curve seems to be bending in Santa Clara county in CA, where social distancing measures were put in place very early. To a lesser extent, this is true in bay counties as well.

This Is a story about it. (I’m a subscriber, so I can’t tell if it’s paywalled, but their coronavirus coverage is supposed to be available.)

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Amory Blaine  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:20:51am

re: #292 Dave In Austin

Are thos party time shrooms?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:22:39am

re: #419 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

It’s just one little spot, but the curve seems to be bending in Santa Clara county in CA, where social distancing measures were put in place very early. To a lesser extent, this is true in bay counties as well.

This Is a story about it. (I’m a subscriber, so I can’t tell if it’s paywalled, but their coronavirus coverage is supposed to be available.)

Germany is doubling every 4-5 days now (currently 34K cases and 192 fatalities) but the surge is going to come nonetheless in the next weeks.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:22:59am

re: #331 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Shit, my brother and his wife canceled my niece’s birthday party because they wanted to play it safe with my parents and her mom and older relatives being there. I’m sure my niece was disappointed but she handled it very well.

Throw her one later, when we’re back in the world.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:22:59am

Cuomo on, talking about how boned NY is.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:23:21am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:23:27am

re: #388 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

When did the Reagan cult begin? Because even during the Reagan presidency, there were Republicans willing to call him out when he acted stupid.

If I had to take a guess, I would say right after his “Tear down this wall” speech.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:23:34am

re: #333 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It’s your grandmother who will die, idiot!

Grandfather.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:24:50am

re: #422 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Throw her one later, when we’re back in the world.

My girlfriend and I both have birthdays coming up in a few weeks, but we will probably just hold off until summer.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:25:29am

re: #425 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

If I had to take a guess, I would say right after his “Tear down this wall” speech.

after he survived the assassination attempt.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:25:42am

re: #402 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Hope you are right. They will insist the election was rigged though, as will Trump.

But of course.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:28:56am

The standard advice and information we have been hearing for week’s is now on a postcard that has on the front: “President Trump’s Coronavirus Guidelines for America”

He has to take credit for everything.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:29:43am

re: #415 sagehen

Dubya started losing them with Katrina; Louisiana and Mississippi and Arkansas are very red states, and even without electricity they saw with their own eyes that the facts on the ground didn’t match what Fox was saying about the federal response.

Ahh true.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:29:56am

re: #429 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

But of course.

M. Bison “Of Course!” HD Edition

This is what I hear in my head..

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:32:31am

re: #427 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My girlfriend and I both have birthdays coming up in a few weeks, but we will probably just hold off until summer.

birthdays are just another day
celebrate the gift of today, every day

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:33:11am

re: #387 Dave In Austin

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All right, a crocodile. Geez, how picky can you get?

///

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:33:57am

re: #433 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

birthdays are just another day
celebrate the gift of today, every day

Already working on those Covid-19 Hallmark cards I see.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:34:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:36:03am

re: #433 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

birthdays are just another day
celebrate the gift of today, every day

Yes, I have no problem with deferring birthday celebrations to a better date.

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mmmirele  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:36:37am

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹🏡

In the meantime, our local Lutheran church remains closed.

It remains to be seen whether they will hold Easter services, but if Nebraska stays the course with banning gatherings over ten, probably not.

Central Christian Church Mesa (one of the megas near me) has gone to all online services.

Hillsong Phoenix/Mesa has gone to all online services.

But Living Word Bible Church is telling its regulars to stay home so it can welcome seekers to the church. They posted a long goddamned screed about how they were trying to obey the governor’s request. *scowl* This whole this is another one of those GAWD TOLD US TO MEET thing…

livingwordonline.com

These asshats deserve a picket, but since I’m isolating, I can’t do it. Maybe I should just drive back and forth slowly in front of the church during meetings. Or something.

I’d note that all three of these churches are greedy, tithe accepting churches, but LWBC is one of those prosperity gospel churches. Asshats every one of them.

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Chrysicat  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:39:44am

Sufficient Branch Bernidians out there to get a trend to #1 with ” #whichsideareyouon “, which is basically yet another demand that Biden immediately capitulate the primary to Bernie because they’re now even more determined to go “accelerationism, because we know the army will mainly side with us when the armed revolution comes” than they were a week ago.

I dunno about you, but at this point I think it’s likelier that the dead are being freed from Hell than any of them going to it, if you know what I mean.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:41:11am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:43:16am

re: #434 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

All right, a crocodile. Geez, how picky can you get?

///

caiman?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:44:46am

Well, Amazon is now giving paid time off to all their workers.

Tiny silver lining, enormous cloud, but still.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:45:40am

re: #441 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

caiman?

Could be, I don’t study them, just photograph them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:46:01am

re: #442 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Well, Amazon is now giving paid time off to all their workers.

Tiny silver lining, enormous cloud, but still.

I would think they would be terribly busy at a time like this

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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:46:21am

re: #440 lawhawk

But on someone else first. Can’t kill off The Gentry.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:46:26am

re: #425 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

If I had to take a guess, I would say right after his “Tear down this wall” speech.

The Reagan Cult began in 90’s with Newt Gingrich leading a pack of huckster Conservatives bent on whitewashing history, rehabilitating a deeply flawed Presidency, and creating a mythology surrounding St. Ronny.

This article gives a pretty detailed account of the organizations involved in this whitewashing:
salon.com

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:47:46am

re: #440 lawhawk

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LOL these fools are gonna go full Jonestown if Trump loses this November.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:48:29am

re: #447 Dr Lizardo

LOL these fools are gonna go full Jonestown if Trump loses this November.

Please proceed.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:48:42am

re: #442 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Well, Amazon is now giving paid time off to all their workers.

Tiny silver lining, enormous cloud, but still.

Silver lining to all this is that when it’s over, it’s going to be hard to take paid sick leave and covered healthcare away from American workers. This could result in a revolution in policy, like the New Deal.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:50:02am

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:50:06am

Is the Federalist running some Most Shitty Take competition that we don’t know about?

Christ.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:50:22am

re: #443 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Could be, I don’t study them, just photograph them.

ok, man.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:53:08am

re: #440 lawhawk

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it’s been less than 2 months (in the US anyway) more or less.
you’re basically saying the preventative response in this country sucked (agreed)
and the instant response isnt working
you’re giving up
already
less than two weeks ‘at home’
two lousy months
you quit
(of course you’re quitting using the lives of other people, but that’s another story)

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unproven innocence  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:54:20am

re: #442 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Well, Amazon is now giving paid time off to all their workers.

Tiny silver lining, enormous cloud, but still.

I assume many (if not most) package delivery drivers are *still* counted as “self-employed”, so no PTO for them.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:55:50am

You know you have been in voluntary lock down to long when you realize it is Wednesday/laundry day and you are like.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:56:56am

‘Top Chef Masters’ Winner Floyd Cardoz Dies of Coronavirus at 59 (Report)

Chef Floyd Cardoz has reportedly passed away after contracting COVID-19, aka the Coronavirus.

The Top Chef Masters winner was only 59 years old, and People confirmed that he passed away after battling the illness since at least last Wednesday.

Last week, he was admitted to a New York City hospital as a “precautionary measure.”

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Kilroy was here  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:57:09am

It is a start
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:57:53am

I saw Lou Dobbs trending on twitter and got really excited…only to see that he, yet again, said something really stupid.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:58:02am

re: #420 Amory Blaine

Are thos party time shrooms?

Why Yes…….. Yes they are.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:59:23am

re: #442 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Well, Amazon is now giving paid time off to all their workers.

Tiny silver lining, enormous cloud, but still.

I tell ya, Judd Legum is doing amazing work bringing this to light. I don’t know if his reporting did this but it did for Kroeger.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:00:01am

This is some good news..

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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:03:53am

re: #443 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Africa…….. Crocodiles

Americas North; American Alligator
Caiman
Freshwater Crocodile

S. America……
Caiman
FreshWater Croc. (Very limited)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:04:43am

Pt 1: Lou Dobbs is a moron.

Pt 2: This video from Kimmel.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:04:48am

re: #462 Dave In Austin

Africa…….. Crocodiles

Americas North; American Alligator
Caiman
Freshwater Crocodile

S. America……
Caiman
FreshWater Croc. (Very limited)

gavial : India, Malaysia, Sunda Islands

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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:08:02am

re: #464 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Salt water Crocs in Asia/Aust.
“Muggers” in India are SWC’s as well.

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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:08:35am

re: #463 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Pt 1: Lou Dobbs is a moron.

Pt 2: This video from Kimmel.

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Isn’t there some old-timey proverb about the rooster taking credit for the sunrise?

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:09:04am

re: #280 Belafon

The new Senate bill excludes elected officials and their family members from receiving any money from the $500B set aside for business, which means the Trump family won’t get any of the money.

That’s gonna draw a veto

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:09:51am

re: #467 Eventual Carrion

That’s gonna draw a veto

He promised he would do oversight…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:10:36am

re: #467 Eventual Carrion

That’s gonna draw a veto

Or he’ll abuse it and dare Congress to do something about it.

Is it still 6 months delay in reporting who gets the money? Or did they cut that to something reasonable, like a week?

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:11:14am

re: #320 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I think I am talking about a different story. The one I wanted to read was about some party that was held where everyone disbursed away and took the virus with them. It may have been in CT, not NY, but it was in the Times.

This?

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:12:15am

re: #467 Eventual Carrion

That’s gonna draw a veto

It’s part of the deal between the Senate and the White House, and it includes an oversight board and an IG. Yes, I agree the family will try to work around it, but crime people will try to find a way. But it does get the other stuff out there as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:13:03am

re: #469 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Or he’ll abuse it and dare Congress to do something about it.

Is it still 6 months delay in reporting who gets the money? Or did they cut that to something reasonable, like a week?

plenty of time to set up shell companies and various other forms of financial hocus-pocus so that nobody notices where it really goes or comes from…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:13:36am

re: #470 gocart mozart

This?

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yuppers. thanks!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:14:39am

re: #470 gocart mozart

Party Zero: How a Soirée in Connecticut Became a ‘Super Spreader’]

Germans were out on the streets en masse celebrating Karneval the week before the shit hit the fan, I am sure that is responsible for a good number of cases.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:17:04am

Some more light humor.

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:17:32am

re: #434 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

All right, a crocodile. Geez, how picky can you get?

///

I didn’t read the caption clearly at first, and just assumed (from the “alligator” reference) that it had said “Florida man” rather than “Rwandan man”. Wonder why….? //

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:18:03am
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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:19:07am

re: #469 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Or he’ll abuse it and dare Congress to do something about it.

Is it still 6 months delay in reporting who gets the money? Or did they cut that to something reasonable, like a week?

Congress within 7 days
Public disclosure within 14 days

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:19:10am

re: #477 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m surprised the CDC is as high as it is with the GOOPers.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:20:29am

Grifter Yoko has some odd ideas for party favors.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:20:34am

re: #477 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

He really is going to get a lot of them killed through his stupidity.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:21:07am

re: #480 makeitstop

Grifter Yoko has some odd ideas for party favors.

I want to piss on the ashes of Mar al Lago one day. That shitty place,

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:22:48am

re: #479 Belafon

I’m surprised the CDC is as high as it is with the GOOPers.

They might not realize it’s a soshulist government agency or they assume their hero is in charge of it, which is actually pretty close to the truth these days.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:23:06am

re: #479 Belafon

I’m surprised the CDC is as high as it is with the GOOPers.

As was I.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:23:39am

re: #481 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He really is going to get a lot of them killed through his stupidity.

I would care a lot more if they weren’t trying to take US with THEM.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:26:34am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:27:31am

re: #484 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

As was I.

Same.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:27:36am

re: #485 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I would care a lot more if they weren’t trying to take US with THEM.

That’s what I mean. His stupidity is going to get a lot of us killed because of it. What the fuck has he ever done that makes them think he knows how to handle a fucking pandemic? Fuck I wish he would just get sick from Corona already and they could see that he’s not the tough guy they wank off to nightly.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:30:14am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:30:34am

Awwwwwwwwwww…

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:30:46am
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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:31:18am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:32:23am

re: #491 makeitstop

Watch the shithead bots now claim that Biden is in the press too much and that this not fair to Bernie.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:33:39am

This instrument sounds like some Yes or King Crimson music

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Mattand  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:33:46am

re: #440 lawhawk

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Absolutely amazing about how after screaming for years about the horror of non-existent death panels, conservatives are now getting behind the idea of sacrificing their own for the “greater good”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:34:27am

Patty Hajdu…Canada’s Minister of Health.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:37:33am
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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:41:02am

re: #493 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Watch the shithead bots now claim that Biden is in the press too much and that this not fair to Bernie.

Well, his spox did say that Joe’s got a camera and he’s going to use it.

Bots and Bros are just gonna have to deal.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:41:46am

I just got another update from Apple and everything so far is working. :)

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:41:57am

re: #495 Mattand

Absolutely amazing about how after screaming for years about the horror of non-existent death panels, conservatives are now getting behind the idea of sacrificing their own for the “greater good”.

But they don’t want to sacrifice their own. They want to sacrifice us.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:43:03am
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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:45:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:46:19am

The more philosophical question there is: are we here to serve the economy or is the economy there to serve us?

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:47:17am

re: #501 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Well, they’re not playing hockey at the Garden…

Dolan already offered. Cuomo turned him down, saying the Garden wasn’t optimal.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:48:01am

A tweep to follow.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:48:24am

These assholes sure are cavalier about other people’s health.

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BigPapa  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:48:59am

As NY Docs, and soon to be other docs, are now faced with who will live or die and having to make hard choices based on age, BMI, etc. Patient’s Facebook and Twitter feeds should be scrutinized as well.

People’s choices and ignorance have to be weighed.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:50:43am

re: #452 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

ok, man.

As Janet would say, not a man. 😉

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ericblair  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:50:52am

This would seem to be important. From reading, this tests IgM antibodies, which indicates whether you have or have already had the disease.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:50:59am

re: #506 makeitstop

Corruption and a lack of morality at Wells Fargo?

Who could have ever seen THAT coming?

////

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:50:59am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:53:30am

re: #511 gocart mozart

We have a much larger population than Italy so comparing our numbers to theirs can be a bit deceptive.

But I wholeheartedly agree Trump is responsible for a lot of this shit.

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:54:05am

Israeli PM Bibi Netanyahu is a piece of work.
His demented Twitter-loving son Yair is 50x worse (commonly nicknamed “Joffrey” in Israel in reference to the Game of Thrones character).

I state this that so you understand why this latest is something I consider a badge to be worn with pride…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:54:34am

re: #498 makeitstop

Well, his spox did say that Joe’s got a camera and he’s going to use it.

Bots and Bros are just gonna have to deal.

Yeah dealing with an actual President sounds nice.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:55:37am

re: #506 makeitstop

These assholes sure are cavalier about other people’s health.

You first Dick. Goddamn some of these CEOs are doing their best to ensure that people will want their asses in the aftermath of this. I’m not a socialist but I fucking despise greedy assholes.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:56:24am

re: #512 Eclectic Cyborg

We have a much larger population than Italy so comparing our numbers to theirs can be a bit deceptive.

But I wholeheartedly agree Trump is responsible for a lot of this shit.

If we continue on our current pace, since we are 5 times Italy’s size, we can expect thousands of deaths daily very soon.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:56:55am

re: #515 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You are not the only one. ::: evil grin :::

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BigPapa  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:57:16am

re: #507 BigPapa

People’s choices and ignorance have to be weighed.

There should be consequences. Conservative mantra has been personal responsibility and life choices. Let’s make life choices a decision vector in who lives or dies.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:58:33am

re: #506 makeitstop

These assholes sure are cavalier about other people’s health.

Ah, well, when you put it like that….

/

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BeachDem  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:00:31am

re: #514 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah dealing with an actual President sounds nice.

Jen Rubin:

Biden displays nearly every quality and ability Trump lacks: Appreciation for expertise, candor, respect for fellow Americans, empathy, understanding of government, foresight (he warned about the virus as early as Jan. 27), thoughtfulness, coherence and a reverence for American values and spirit…

It is not often that the challenger in a presidential election has more experience, granular knowledge of policy and gravitas than the sitting president. Here, it is not even close. Having spotted the threat of the pandemic and urged the Defense Production Act be activated, Biden already is demonstrating he is more competent than the incumbent. If Americans cannot figure out under these circumstances which candidate has the character and capacity to look after them, then the future of self-governance truly is in doubt.

washingtonpost.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:00:31am

Want to make people think that socialism is legitimate? Tell people to go to work during the worst pandemic in a century that is not getting better. Fucking dickheads.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:01:32am

re: #520 BeachDem

Jen Rubin:

Biden displays nearly every quality and ability Trump lacks: Appreciation for expertise, candor, respect for fellow Americans, empathy, understanding of government, foresight (he warned about the virus as early as Jan. 27), thoughtfulness, coherence and a reverence for American values and spirit…

It is not often that the challenger in a presidential election has more experience, granular knowledge of policy and gravitas than the sitting president. Here, it is not even close. Having spotted the threat of the pandemic and urged the Defense Production Act be activated, Biden already is demonstrating he is more competent than the incumbent. If Americans cannot figure out under these circumstances which candidate has the character and capacity to look after them, then the future of self-governance truly is in doubt.

washingtonpost.com

The more people learn that Biden was on top of this when Bernie was still talking about the billionair’s and establishment, the more tehy’re going to be glad that Biden will be the Dem standard bearer and God willing POTUS.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:01:48am

re: #521 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You are correct. They are d*kHeads.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:03:06am

re: #494 gocart mozart

TOOL all the way.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:04:24am

re: #523 PhillyPretzel

You are correct. They are d*kHeads.

I mean it’s no wonder why Marxism developed as a philosophy because dickheads like these were in running a lot of the major industries in the 19th century.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:05:45am

re: #375 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Dubya’s support wasn’t as cultish as Trump’s is.

I remember that horror movie Jesus Camp where Pulpit Pimps were having kids pray to a cardboard cutout of Dumbya…scare the ssshhhaaavvviiinnnggg cream out of me…

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:05:51am

re: #506 makeitstop

“some may even die.”

What a monster.

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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:06:22am

I love my Philly Flyers.
But they play at The Wells Fargo Center.
And that kills me.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:07:59am

Biden speaking. Directs his first remarks to my generation. Thank you Joe. Your empathy is greatly appreciated here.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:09:00am

Looks like the right wingers have their new mantra.

“Some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.”

They’ve gone full Lord Farquaad. You never go full Lord Farquaad.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:09:11am

re: #529 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Where is this speech? Is he on right now?

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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:09:27am

re: #477 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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The “your governor” part of those stats is skewed by the fact that for Dems your governor is likely Cuomo or Newsom or Whitmer or Bashear, while for Reps it’s DeSantis or Abbot or DeWine.

Of course Dems SHOULD trust their governors more than Reps should… because they’re better governors.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:10:51am

Thread:

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:11:16am

re: #351 makeitstop

I think it’s theater. Easter will come and go with no grand re-opening.

Then he’ll blame state governments for it not happening.

No — that’s not what will happen. Trump will say it has to be postponed because he’s listening to the experts. And the MSM will praise him for his pivot. And the American public, which has the memory of a gnat, will applaud him for his leadership.

My sister continues to fear his reelection because, by the fall, the disease will be under control and he will skate again.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:12:07am

re: #531 PhillyPretzel

Where is this speech? Is he on right now?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:13:14am

re: #534 Hecuba’s daughter

No — that’s not what will happen. Trump will say it has to be postponed because he’s listening to the experts. And the MSM will praise him for his pivot. And the American public, which has the memory of a gnat, will applaud him for his leadership.

My sister continues to fear his reelection because, by the fall, the disease will be under control and he will skate again.

No offense but I get really sick and tired of the non stop cynicism. People said we would not retake the House. We did. They said we would not impeach him. We did. And we’re going ot beat his ass in the fall.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:13:22am

re: #534 Hecuba’s daughter

No — that’s not what will happen. Trump will say it has to be postponed because he’s listening to the experts. And the MSM will praise him for his pivot. And the American public, which has the memory of a gnat, will applaud him for his leadership.

My sister continues to fear his reelection because, by the fall, the disease will be under control and he will skate again.

Bush 1 rode Iraq to victory.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:13:52am

re: #533 Belafon

I always thought it was stupid TBH. Never had any desire to leave the planet. Mars isn’t my home.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:14:10am
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:14:15am

re: #15 Belafon

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And it’s our taxpayer money that Trump is using to help the states. Why do Americans have to “be nice” to him to get access to federal aid that we pay taxes for?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:14:57am

re: #540 Patricia Kayden

And it’s our taxpayer money that Trump is using to help the states. Why do Americans have to “be nice” to him to get access to federal aid that we pay taxes for?

Because he governs like a bloated mafia Don who thinks you need to pay tribute to him to get protection.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:15:15am

re: #538 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I always thought it was stupid TBH. Never had any desire to leave the planet. Mars isn’t my home.

I would love to die under a different gravitational pull. But I also wouldn’t have a problem living in a confined space.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:15:52am

re: #408 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i like to think that he knew his limitations and he was in over his head

maybe

Bush 43 appointed a totally unqualified person to head FEMA. The Katrina disaster should be on him — and the ongoing Middle East disaster under tutelage of Cheney. Bush isn’t a sociopath — he has real friends, loves his family, has interests outside of enriching himself, is a loyal American, and has no problems with warm relationships with those who do not share his politics. And, as flawed as it is, he did add prescription coverage to Medicare.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:16:09am

Coronavirus: Briton, 21, with no pre-existing health conditions dies after contracting COVID-19

A 21-year-old woman is believed to be the youngest person with no pre-existing health conditions to have died after contracting coronavirus in the UK.

Chloe Middleton, from High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, is believed to have died from COVID-19, the disease caused by coronavirus, on 21 March.

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BeachDem  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:16:45am

This story from yesterday is infuriating (just one of many, sadly)
Doctors Are Hoarding Unproven Coronavirus Medicine By Writing Prescriptions For Themselves And Their Families

A nationwide shortage of two drugs touted as possible treatments for the coronavirus is being driven in part by doctors inappropriately prescribing the medicines for family, friends and themselves, according to pharmacists and state regulators.

…On Twitter, pharmacy workers traded stories about dentists and opthamologists requesting hydroxychloroquine under dubious pretenses. “A dentist just tried to call in scripts for hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin for himself, his wife, & another couple (friends),” tweeted a pharmacist in Eugene, Oregon. “I have patients with lupus that have been on HCQ [Hydroxychloroquine] for YEARS and now can’t get it because it’s on backorder.”

huffpost.com

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:17:44am

re: #545 BeachDem

This story from yesterday is infuriating (just one of many, sadly)
Doctors Are Hoarding Unproven Coronavirus Medicine By Writing Prescriptions For Themselves And Their Families

A nationwide shortage of two drugs touted as possible treatments for the coronavirus is being driven in part by doctors inappropriately prescribing the medicines for family, friends and themselves, according to pharmacists and state regulators.

…On Twitter, pharmacy workers traded stories about dentists and opthamologists requesting hydroxychloroquine under dubious pretenses. “A dentist just tried to call in scripts for hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin for himself, his wife, & another couple (friends),” tweeted a pharmacist in Eugene, Oregon. “I have patients with lupus that have been on HCQ [Hydroxychloroquine] for YEARS and now can’t get it because it’s on backorder.”

huffpost.com

Time for law enforcement to be visiting doctors.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:17:50am

Interesting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:17:52am

re: #544 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Word of caution here: She MAY have had an undiagnosed condition.

Still awful news though.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:18:51am

re: #428 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

after he survived the assassination attempt.

Reagan was not a good person, but he had a real sense of humor, was not a coward, and could read a teleprompter with the best of them.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:19:29am

It is such a relief to hear Joe.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:20:59am

re: #547 makeitstop

Interesting.

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A lot of these Republicans are up for re-election this year, they know how bad things could get and they know Trump has no real power to just open things back up and they would pay the price far more so than him if that were to happen.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:21:14am

re: #550 PhillyPretzel

It is such a relief to hear Joe.

He sounds very presidential.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:21:20am

re: #548 Eclectic Cyborg

Many people have undiagnosed diseases. She well could have had an autoimmune problem that had not yet become prominent enough at her age to be noticed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:21:57am

re: #479 Belafon

I’m surprised the CDC is as high as it is with the GOOPers.

My Trumpster brother who denounces the deep state at every opportunity worships Fauci. Of course, that was last week, not sure how he feels this week. He follows the Trump party line that it was Trump who delayed the explosion of coronavirus in this country and that somehow the dismissal of the pandemic team was not important at all.

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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:22:04am

re: #547 makeitstop

They say “god” works in mysterious ways……

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:22:52am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:23:31am

re: #556 teleskiguy

I hope Putin gets COVID.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:23:58am

I’m thinking maybe they oughta hang out for a minute in case Trump decides he’s going to veto the bailout.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:24:32am

re: #547 makeitstop

Interesting.

He’s probably hearing that his promise of restarting things after Easter is an empty promise since he’s not been in charge of shutting things down. Those have all been local decisions. And if his followers are expecting things to start back up when he said, and they don’t, it’s not going to look good. Especially when a lot of those places are like here in Texas that are conservative areas but at least accept why it’s happening.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:24:59am

re: #558 makeitstop

Is the House going to just accept the Senate bill? I thought the House bill had some significant differences.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:25:10am

I think he chose Easter because he wants to frame it as “America’s resurrection” for his rubes.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:25:46am

re: #555 Mescalero09

Yes. He does.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:25:46am

re: #493 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Watch the shithead bots now claim that Biden is in the press too much and that this not fair to Bernie.

let him build his own damn studio in one of his houses

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:25:49am

re: #388 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

When did the Reagan cult begin? Because even during the Reagan presidency, there were Republicans willing to call him out when he acted stupid.

I remember it starting in 1977 when Reagan gave daily radio addresses attacking that godless Socialist Jimmy C. It gathered steam when the Moron Majority and Xtian Coalition gathered steam in 1978.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:26:14am

re: #495 Mattand

Absolutely amazing about how after screaming for years about the horror of non-existent death panels, conservatives are now getting behind the idea of sacrificing their own you for the “greater good”.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:27:07am

re: #547 makeitstop

One report yesterday noted that in Trump’s phone meeting with major investors (I linked it here) that Trump heard from the investors that his plan to reopen by Easter was unworkable.

Note the Republican politicians piling on are doing so because their deep pocket backers are also skeptical.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:27:12am

re: #348 makeitstop

Is it me, or is Uncle Daddy Vlad looking a little peaked in this photo?

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That was in Westport, CT. I read the story, it’s crazy how fast the virus took hold in that town. Like two days, tops.

He should get on a horse and ride into the sunset, bare chested

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:28:23am

re: #564 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember it starting in 1977 when Reagan gave daily radio addresses attacking that godless Socialist Jimmy C. It gathered steam when the Moron Majority and Xtian Coalition gathered steam in 1978.

This had to have happened when he primareid Jimmy Carter but my Dad saw a sticker and snickered at it and my grandfather, lifer at the NLRB said “Hey, there’s a lot of crazy people out there.” Can’t imagine what he would have thought of Trump. My uncle told me that my grandfather was a lot like Biden in a lot of ways.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:28:28am

re: #540 Patricia Kayden

And it’s our taxpayer money that Trump is using to help the states. Why do Americans have to “be nice” to him to get access to federal aid that we pay taxes for?

Because trump is a fucking asshole.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:32:16am

re: #544 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Coronavirus: Briton, 21, with no pre-existing health conditions dies after contracting COVID-19

when we / they keep talking about age groups, pre existing, etc - we’re talking odds, averages, predictions etc

anyone can get it
anyone can survive it (ok, most)
anyone can die from it

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:32:34am

Competence and trust in US resources like intel would really have been a better play. New page.
Holy smokes.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:32:47am

re: #558 makeitstop

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I’m thinking maybe they oughta hang out for a minute in case Trump decides he’s going to veto the bailout.

That’s exactly what AOC said.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:32:59am

re: #545 BeachDem

This story from yesterday is infuriating (just one of many, sadly)
Doctors Are Hoarding Unproven Coronavirus Medicine By Writing Prescriptions For Themselves And Their Families

A nationwide shortage of two drugs touted as possible treatments for the coronavirus is being driven in part by doctors inappropriately prescribing the medicines for family, friends and themselves, according to pharmacists and state regulators.

…On Twitter, pharmacy workers traded stories about dentists and opthamologists requesting hydroxychloroquine under dubious pretenses. “A dentist just tried to call in scripts for hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin for himself, his wife, & another couple (friends),” tweeted a pharmacist in Eugene, Oregon. “I have patients with lupus that have been on HCQ [Hydroxychloroquine] for YEARS and now can’t get it because it’s on backorder.”

huffpost.com

Idaho has already taken steps to quash this.

People have been stockpiling COVID-19 trial drugs. Idaho becomes 1st state to try to stop it

Idaho’s new rule prohibits pharmacies from dispensing chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine unless the prescription includes a written diagnosis with evidence for its use. The prescription is limited to no more than a 14-day supply for new prescriptions, and no refills are allowed unless a new prescription is furnished.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:35:00am

re: #536 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

No offense but I get really sick and tired of the non stop cynicism. People said we would not retake the House. We did. They said we would not impeach him. We did. And we’re going ot beat his ass in the fall.

In her case, I don’t think it’s cynicism, but rather despair. She hates Trump with the burning passion of a thousand suns. Yesterday she had real fear that stimulus package money would go to help the Trump crime family — and this morning was ecstatic to read that the 500 billion dollar slush fund elected officials and their relatives were barred from receiving any money.

I will have to remind her she also believed that Bernie was going to win. We both tend to be the glass half empty type of person — pessimists at heart.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:35:30am

re: #540 Patricia Kayden

And it’s our taxpayer money that Trump is using to help the states. Why do Americans have to “be nice” to him to get access to federal aid that we pay taxes for?

to be clear, this $2T is not taxpayer money - this is not collected tax money

this is made out of whole cloth deficit, government printing press ‘money’

you’re right about the rest -

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:37:28am

re: #574 Hecuba’s daughter

In her case, I don’t think it’s cynicism, but rather despair. She hates Trump with the burning passion of a thousand suns. Yesterday she had real fear that stimulus package money would go to help the Trump crime family — and this morning was ecstatic to read that the 500 billion dollar slush fund elected officials and their relatives were barred from receiving any money.

I will have to remind her she also believed that Bernie was going to win. We both tend to be the glass half empty type of person — pessimists at heart.

I’m sorry if I came off harsh. It’s just. I really think the shock of 2016 shellshocked people like you and your sister. It just gets tiring to have to point out that we have pushed back against Trump more than a lot of the glass half empties thought we would have.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:39:22am

re: #574 Hecuba’s daughter

In her case, I don’t think it’s cynicism, but rather despair. She hates Trump with the burning passion of a thousand suns. Yesterday she had real fear that stimulus package money would go to help the Trump crime family — and this morning was ecstatic to read that the 500 billion dollar slush fund elected officials and their relatives were barred from receiving any money.

I will have to remind her she also believed that Bernie was going to win. We both tend to be the glass half empty type of person — pessimists at heart.

try being a libra

we never know if the glass is half empty or we just got more glass than we need

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:41:08am

re: #575 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

to be clear, this $2T is not taxpayer money - this is not collected tax money

this is made out of whole cloth deficit, government printing press ‘money’

you’re right about the rest -

The stuff Cuomo is asking for was prior to this bill, stuff the government should be using it’s money to buy and not hoard but help the states with.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:41:56am

Swell.

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Alephnaught  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:43:01am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:43:40am

re: #430 PhillyPretzel

The standard advice and information we have been hearing for week’s is now on a postcard that has on the front: “President Trump’s Coronavirus Guidelines for America”

He has to take credit for everything.

I put the goddamned piece of ssshhhaaavvviiinnnggg cream in my shredder.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:44:54am

re: #581 Joe Bacon 🌹

I already threw mine in the trash. :)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:45:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:48:23am

re: #553 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Many people have undiagnosed diseases. She well could have had an autoimmune problem that had not yet become prominent enough at her age to be noticed.

One of the Czech fatalities had metastatic cancer. He was entirely unaware of it, as were doctors until he was admitted to the hospital shortly before his death. He hadn’t sought medical services in at least four years, according to the doctors.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:50:25am

The tweet in question:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:50:34am

re: #584 Dr Lizardo

I was planning on a whole lot of medical checks this spring and possibly a couple of surgeries summer and maybe by fall. All now on indefinite hold.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:51:26am

re: #578 Belafon

The stuff Cuomo is asking for was prior to this bill, stuff the government should be using it’s money to buy and not hoard but help the states with.

Oh i agree

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:51:48am

re: #585 lawhawk

Are they going to give you a byline or at least a hat tip?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:53:11am

Five local cases confirmed. Here we go.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:53:36am

re: #440 lawhawk

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:53:59am

The huge hospital the UK is building (converting an existing structure) to relieve their current hospital:

NHS Nightingale: video shows scale of London coronavirus hospital

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CarolJ  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:54:01am

re: #559 Belafon

I realized something a few minutes ago. It’s too late to prepare for Easter Services. Just opening up closed churches and cleaning them takes a week. And remember there’s a trilogy of services-Palm Sunday, Good Friday, and Easter. Trump wouldn’t know that, only being taken to Easter Services by his noveau riche parents. Social Strivers only attended for the Easter Parade. Good Friday/Palm Sunday was more for the really devout who went to Communion or were regular churchgoers.

That means 3 times the church is open. But these aren’t just ordinary services, florists are also involved-palms for Palm Sunday, crepes for Good Friday, Easter lilies. Choirs who have to practice for all three services. Sometimes a communion is involved-Baptist on Good Friday. Visitors streaming in and out for multiple services per day, many of them not having been there for years or weeks along with unvetted visitors. Infection vector indeed.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:56:06am

Coronavirus: Top British diplomat, 37, dies from Covid-19 in Hungary

Americans need to hear that just because they are relatively young does not mean they cannot die from Covid-19.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:57:30am

re: #593 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Coronavirus: Top British diplomat, 37, dies from Covid-19 in Hungary

Americans need to hear that just because they are relatively young does not mean they cannot die from Covid-19.

And Trump thinks we’re all going ot be hunky dory for Easter.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:58:11am

re: #593 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I know that is why I am staying at home. As I said earlier I will be going to the supermarket tomorrow. That is usually when my local Acme stocks up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:58:47am

re: #593 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Coronavirus: Top British diplomat, 37, dies from Covid-19 in Hungary

Americans need to hear that just because they are relatively young does not mean they cannot die from Covid-19.

It just means that the rate is lower than for older people.

This is absolute weapons-grade stupidity and misinformation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:59:56am

re: #595 PhillyPretzel

I know that is why I am staying at home. As I said earlier I will be going to the supermarket tomorrow. That is usually when my local Acme stocks up.

I am planning a hike into Bacharach on Friday to visit the local mini-supermarket there to get the handful of items I cannot get from the village bakery/shop and produce truck

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:59:59am

re: #579 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Swell.

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There is no doubt in my mind that if the Speaker were a Republican Jack Goldsmith wouldn’t have even written such an article. Anything out of a conservative’s mouth must be considered totally dishonest and deceptive.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:00:39am

re: #538 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I always thought it was stupid TBH. Never had any desire to leave the planet. Mars isn’t my home.

Perhaps. But me?

(it’s actually from Robert Louis Stevenson but the image still fits)

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:01:01am

So last Wednesday, my sister was furloughed as AMC decided they couldn’t meet the “10 or less” guideline while staying profitable and so shut down for 6-12 weeks.

This past Monday, my dad was put on administrative leave from the engine shop he works in because he meets the “most vulnerable” criteria. He’s off work for a minimum of 3 months.

And now, my mom just got home from her own job and has been informed she’d on administrative leave until further notice. They told her they’d have her telework, but her office is not in any way equipped for such and it was mostly used as an excuse to put her on leave.

So, who’s the person in the house who’s still working and has basically been told he should be happy that he can continue to work in what amounts to a petri dish? Me. At this point, I can only assume I burned down an orphanage in a past life and this life is where I burn off all the accumulated negative karma.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:02:23am

re: #598 Hecuba’s daughter

There is no doubt in my mind that if the Speaker were a Republican Jack Goldsmith wouldn’t have even written such an article. Anything out of a conservative’s mouth must be considered totally dishonest and deceptive.

I was annoyed by his “we must remove the legislature from the line of succession” after he acknowledges that almost everyone assumes that Speaker of the House is the next in line. He even says that the constitution calls legislators officers and yet tries to say there’s some ambiguity.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:02:36am

re: #599 William Lewis

Perhaps. But me?

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(it’s actually from Robert Louis Stevenson but the image still fits)

I hate being on an airplane for hours at a time. Now you tell me I’m on a space ship for more than a year?. Nothing against space, it’s just I think we can learn a lot here too. I’d love to do more exploration of the oceans for example.

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:02:49am

re: #589 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Five local cases confirmed. Here we go.

“Local” is where?

ADD: and these are the *first* known cases?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:05:30am

re: #604 Jay C

“Local” is where?

My smallish Canadian city.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:06:15am

re: #430 PhillyPretzel

The standard advice and information we have been hearing for week’s is now on a postcard that has on the front: “President Trump’s Coronavirus Guidelines for America”

He has to take credit for everything.

got one in the mail today

telling everyone to go back to work ignores every recommendation on this postcard

what’s he gonna say? “nevermind”?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:06:57am

re: #603 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I hate being on an airplane for hours at a time. Now you tell me I’m on a space ship for more than a year?. Nothing against space, it’s just I think we can learn a lot here too. I’d love to do more exploration of the oceans for example.

There are many (not me!!) who would volunteer for such a mission — who would love to boldly go where no one has gone before.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:08:43am

re: #607 Hecuba’s daughter

There are many (not me!!) who would volunteer for such a mission — who would love to boldly go where no one has gone before.

I’m not getting in a submarine. I’m afraid of confined areas but all the futurism I think ignores we can still learn a lot on planet Earth too. More people have been on the moon than to Challenger Deep for example.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:09:15am

re: #585 lawhawk

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We hardly knew ye

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:09:39am

Republicans are already trying to scuttle the stimulus bill.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:11:53am

re: #610 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Of course. We have to have people working for the greater glory of “dear leader.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:12:21am

re: #610 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Republicans are already trying to scuttle the stimulus bill.

Here’s an incentive to return to the workplace, not having a pandemic. People are going to want to go to work after this. But they’re not going to rush to go back to work when we don’t have the pandemic under control. Maybe if your party stopped acting like 19th century robber barons with an outdated view of capitalism, we’d get shit done. Also, your job takes much more time off than the average American worker does so spare me the bllshit about work coming from a bunch of political prostitutes such as yourselves.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:12:43am

re: #591 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The huge hospital the UK is building (converting an existing structure) to relieve their current hospital:

NHS Nightingale: video shows scale of London coronavirus hospital

But we’ll be back to work by easter

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:12:54am

re: #611 PhillyPretzel

Of course. We have to have people working for the greater glory of “dear leader.”

I am so sick of hearing about the glory of work from a bunch of lazy Republicans who go to circle jerks like CPAC and Mar al Lago.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:13:01am

re: #592 CarolJ

I realized something a few minutes ago. It’s too late to prepare for Easter Services. Just opening up closed churches and cleaning them takes a week. And remember there’s a trilogy of services-Palm Sunday, Good Friday, and Easter. Trump wouldn’t know that, only being taken to Easter Services by his noveau riche parents.

No more than two Corinthians at a time!

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:13:01am

re: #610 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Republicans are already trying to scuttle the stimulus bill.

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And the “liberal media” will report the sudden stalling of this bill due to the “fix”…as Dems standing in the way of people being helped.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:13:54am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:14:29am

re: #610 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Republicans are already trying to scuttle the stimulus bill.

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Huh? Who is behind this plot? Someone who wants legislators to get money from this bill? Has to be rich glibertarians who are calling the legislators they own to stop this bill before it helps anyone who isn’t rich.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:15:48am

re: #610 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Republicans are already trying to scuttle the stimulus bill.

But Senator Collins and Turtle were telling us passionately yesterday that the stimulus bill needed to be passed right away or we were all going to die.

/

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:16:11am

JHU: 60k US cases, 827 (up from 813 previously posted here) deaths. Cases doubling 2-3 days. Trump fixates on total number of tests, still not even to his promised 1 million, let alone 4 million tests he and Pence promised.

Per capita is still a fraction of what it took South Korea to contain. We didn’t contain, and now we’re playing catchup - and that means dead bodies. Lots of dead bodies.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:17:37am

re: #615 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No more than two Corinthians at a time!

Dressed in Rich Corinthian Leather?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:18:22am

re: #610 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Republicans are already trying to scuttle the stimulus bill.

I guess they don’t like the unemployment provisions.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:19:17am

re: #622 Sir John Barron

I guess they don’t like the unemployment provisions.

That’s what I’d suspect, they want to either cut the time added or remove the extra money that was added as part of the negotiations.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:19:56am

So a minimum wage worker might get an extra dollar. These people are not loyal to our country, they worship their own greed.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:20:37am

re: #622 Sir John Barron

I guess they don’t like the unemployment provisions.

Hopefully we can make a lot of them unemployed in the fall and then not let them return to our capital city to lobby though I’m sure some of them would slink away to Fox News where they work really hard……….harassing women, race baiting, and just being all around dicks since FNC is the biggest right wign safe place.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:20:53am

re: #596 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It just means that the rate is lower than for older people.

This is absolute weapons-grade stupidity and misinformation.

Anyone can get it
anyone csn recover
Anyone can die

Some are more or less likely is all

Just like the flu. Which kills in all age groups every year. Even some who had the vaccine

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:20:53am

re: #620 lawhawk

NJ is seeing a surge of cases (more testing garners more positive returns):
4,402 confirmed cases, and deaths rise to 62.

This isn’t going to be over by Easter.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:21:52am

re: #624 jaunte

So a minimum wage worker might get an extra dollar. These people are not loyal to our country, they worship their own greed.

They will never understand what it is actually like to have to work for a living because they just take money from donors and spout out bullshit platitudes like this. Republicans are why Americans hate politicians because Republicans are nothing but a bunch of stingy, greedy fuckbags.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:22:07am

So having ignored the Salem Communications propaganda outlets for many months, I’ve noticed an increase in their stories making onto RSS aggregators.

So I’ve checked out Allahpundit a couple of times. He’s trying, it would appear, to present rational arguments about Covid-19.

But the Salem god-bothering Trumpers are having none of it, attacking Allahpundit in comments on his articles.

It’s hilarious, and sad at the same time. The know-nothings are so far into their cult-of-Trump that they can’t handle even little doses of reality.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:22:14am

re: #625 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Hopefully we can make a lot of them unemployed in the fall and then not let them return to our capital city to lobby though I’m sure some of them would slink away to Fox News where they work really hard……….harassing women, race baiting, and just being all around dicks since FNC is the biggest right wign safe place.

the kadrillion dollar slush fund controlled by dear leader was great but the lazy slacker poors must be made to return to work as soon as possible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:22:47am

re: #624 jaunte

THE ISSUE with the deal.

Sens. Graham, Scott, Scott and Sasse say that the unemployment compensation, as written, would pay some Americans *more* than their usual salary.

It is odious enough for them to give anything to these poor people…but more than they “deserve”?

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BeachDem  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:22:51am

re: #624 jaunte

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So a minimum wage worker might get an extra dollar. These people are not loyal to our country, they worship their own greed.

And of course two of the four morons are my senators—ugh.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:22:55am

re: #624 jaunte

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So a minimum wage worker might get an extra dollar. These people are not loyal to our country, they worship their own greed.

The extra money would be $600…a month. For 4 months.

Like I said yesterday, these asshats totally believe this is all going to be “over” in a matter of days or weeks. Atop that, they seem to have no fucking clue how unemployment actually works.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:23:13am

re: #624 jaunte

So a minimum wage worker might get an extra dollar. These people are not loyal to our country, they worship their own greed.

OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:23:31am

re: #617 The Pie Overlord!

I’m seriously fucking tired of this shit:

- An 81-year-old Detroit woman with underlying health conditions who died March 19 at Henry Ford Health System’s hospital in Detroit.

- A Detroit woman in her 50s, with underlying health conditions, who died at McLaren Oakland Hospital on March 19

It’s like, ok, they were sick so… SO FUCKING WHAT?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:23:38am

re: #602 Belafon

I was annoyed by his “we must remove the legislature from the line of succession” after he acknowledges that almost everyone assumes that Speaker of the House is the next in line. He even says that the constitution calls legislators officers and yet tries to say there’s some ambiguity.

The “changing parties” bit was the tell

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:23:59am

As if the “more than their usual salary” money would not immediately flow into the economy. How are Republicans so bad at this?

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:25:00am

re: #635 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m seriously fucking tired of this shit:

It’s like, ok, they were sick so… SO FUCKING WHAT?

If they append “underlying condition” to the deaths, then they believe they can sell the idea that this shit is no different than the flu because “These people would have died anyway!”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:25:06am

re: #622 Sir John Barron

I guess they don’t like the unemployment provisions.

Or that they can’t personally profit (or trump Abba his con family), or vote by mail, or oversight.

Take your pick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:25:09am

re: #635 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m seriously fucking tired of this shit:

It’s like, ok, they were sick so… SO FUCKING WHAT?

Yes, there are lots of people in America with underlying health conditions, often the result of a lack of insurance coverage or the inability to make up the difference between what treatment costs and what their policies will pay…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:25:15am

re: #607 Hecuba’s daughter

There are many (not me!!) who would volunteer for such a mission — who would love to boldly go where no one has gone before.

I’d consider going boldly, but im a grammar pedant

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:30:12am

re: #628 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They will never understand what it is actually like to have to work for a living because they just take money from donors and spout out bullshit platitudes like this. Republicans are why Americans hate politicians because Republicans are nothing but a bunch of stingy, greedy fuckbags.

Rick Scott
Medicare thief

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:31:05am

re: #629 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So having ignored the Salem Communications propaganda outlets for many months, I’ve noticed an increase in their stories making onto RSS aggregators.

So I’ve checked out Allahpundit a couple of times. He’s trying, it would appear, to present rational arguments about Covid-19.

But the Salem god-bothering Trumpers are having none of it, attacking Allahpundit in comments on his articles.

It’s hilarious, and sad at the same time. The know-nothings are so far into their cult-of-Trump that they can’t handle even little doses of reality.

Everybody’s a n expert

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:32:38am

re: #623 Targetpractice

That’s what I’d suspect, they want to either cut the time added or remove the extra money that was added as part of the negotiations.

or both.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:32:47am

re: #506 makeitstop

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These assholes sure are cavalier about other people’s health.

FUCK THE RICH!

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:34:13am

re: #595 PhillyPretzel

I know that is why I am staying at home. As I said earlier I will be going to the supermarket tomorrow. That is usually when my local Acme stocks up.

So I have tried a couple of grocery delivery options. Shipt >> Instacart. Of course, Shipt is based in Birmingham. Bought out by Target, but they did not move the Shipt operation. Support Target stores if you can.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:35:10am

re: #638 Targetpractice

If they append “underlying condition” to the deaths, then they believe they can sell the idea that this shit is no different than the flu because “These people would have died anyway!”

Yes but…
Being more susceptible to covid wouldn’t mean they would have died but for it. Even from the flu

Unless I’m missing it

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cat-tikvah  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:12:31pm

re: #547 makeitstop

Interesting.

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Here’s my idea:
trump should host a yuge combination Easter service and MAGA rally at Mar-a-Lago and invite every member of the GOP - House and Senate. Loyalty test. Then quarantine all of them there.

I’m a tad nasty.

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John Hughes  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:57:11pm

re: #222 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Okay maybe I just might move to Connemara eventually anyhow. […]Then she said there is no really like Laura in Ireland doing what our right wing hucksters are doing.

Uh, Ireland has 3 political parties, two that are politically equivalent to the US republicans (Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael) and the loonies (Sinn Féin).

Ok, they’re competent right wing scum, but they’re still right wing scum.

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John Hughes  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:10:25pm

re: #239 makeitstop

The situation in the Alsace Loraine region of France is difficult — it’s one of the biggest outbreaks, after a week long evangelist revival meeting a month or so ago. A military field hospital has been set up to help the main hospital in Mulhouse, patients have been moved to hospitals in other regions in Air Force hospital planes, a special TGV will run tomorrow, filled with ICU beds to evacuate others. Hell, despite the “closure” of the German and Swiss frontiers patients are being moved from Mulhouse to Germany and Switzerland.

Solidarity is all.

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John Hughes  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:16:16pm

re: #292 Dave In Austin

Horeshit.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:59:54pm

re: #602 Belafon

I was annoyed by his “we must remove the legislature from the line of succession” after he acknowledges that almost everyone assumes that Speaker of the House is the next in line. He even says that the constitution calls legislators officers and yet tries to say there’s some ambiguity.

Sort of ignores that they’re there since the line is following through people who were *elected* and not appointed.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2020 • 3:25:25am

re: #574 Hecuba’s daughter

In her case, I don’t think it’s cynicism, but rather despair. She hates Trump with the burning passion of a thousand suns. Yesterday she had real fear that stimulus package money would go to help the Trump crime family — and this morning was ecstatic to read that the 500 billion dollar slush fund elected officials and their relatives were barred from receiving any money.

I will have to remind her she also believed that Bernie was going to win. We both tend to be the glass half empty type of person — pessimists at heart.

Pessimists are just optimists with experience.


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