The Big Question: Why Is Donald Trump Refusing to Deploy the Defense Production Act?

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Today at the Washington Post, Greg Sargent (one of their best writers on the Trump crime family) asks an important question: Why is Donald Trump refusing to take the steps that could prevent mass deaths from coronavirus?

This question is forced upon us by an appearance by Rep. Elissa Slotkin on “Morning Joe,” and by new reporting that suggests we’re only beginning to glimpse the damage Trump’s failures could unleash.

Slotkin, a Michigan Democrat, has introduced a new bill that would compel the president to deploy the Defense Production Act, or DPA, to direct the private sector to produce a range of medical supplies to address looming shortfalls amid the worsening coronavirus crisis.

Trump has invoked this 1950 wartime production measure but has not deployed it. Numerous states and health officials are pleading with him to do so, warning of severe equipment shortages crippling their own responses.

In discussing her bill Wednesday morning, Slotkin made a point that’s more startling than it first appears.

“I under almost no circumstances would recommend the legislative branch forcing the executive branch to enact these powers,” Slotkin said. “But the outcry is so strong that it’s pushed us to try and force the president to try to centralize the retooling of our big manufacturers.”

Emphasis mine. The question this raises is: Why must Trump be “forced” into doing this?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:25:36am

Why did he not do so weeks ago?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:26:04am

Because the government ordering companies to make certain things goes completely against the conservative ideal of the “Free Market”.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:26:48am

He wants to appear like he’s doing something, and when the states fail, he can turn around and blame the failure on the godless Democrats?

He thinks that red states will fare better? Never mind that the red states are behind the curve, and this is a math problem where the GOP keeps failing. They don’t care about the death toll, or people hospitalized, or anything but when they can get back to their usual graft/grifting/stock market manipulations.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:27:19am
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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:27:33am

Trump is disordered enough to try to destroy us for not loving him enough.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:27:46am

Because he would make himself responsible, or at least more responsible, for meeting the demand for supplies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:28:28am

re: #5 jaunte

Trump is disordered enough to try to destroy us for not loving him enough.

He is doing that to New York State as we speak.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:28:40am

re: #4 lawhawk

they were just telling us yesterday that we had to rush the previous senate bill through immediately because people needed the money and the economy needed the money right now right away, but I guess not really.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:29:08am

re: #4 lawhawk

It’s not like those low wage workers are risking their lives to keep store shelves stocked or anything. Fuck these pieces of shit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:29:15am

re: #8 Sir John Barron

they were just telling us yesterday that we had to rush the previous senate bill through immediately because people needed the money and the economy needed the money right now right away, but I guess not really.

Not if poors are getting it too!

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:29:16am

Sorry I’ve been absent. Apparently I’ve got a mild case of the ‘Rona. Splitting headaches, fever, chills, muscles cramping. No cough though, which is good.

Staying isolated w Mrs. Khal and trying to muster an appetite. Everything tastes bland.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:30:30am

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

I am sorry. Beat the odds and get well soon.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:31:28am

re: #4 lawhawk

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This shit makes no sense whatsoever if one has actually read the damned bill. The additional money lasts for 4 months, after which UI would go back to the current poverty levels. And anybody who has ever been on UI or looked into applying for such knows one important thing: If you get offered a job (either a new one or your old one) and you refuse, then they immediately cancel your benefits and you’re SOL.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:32:02am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:32:16am

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Sorry I’ve been absent. Apparently I’ve got a mild case of the ‘Rona. Splitting headaches, fever, chills, muscles cramping. No cough though, which is good.

Staying isolated w Mrs. Khal and trying to muster an appetite. Everything tastes bland.

Same symptoms I had a few weeks back, though I had a mild cough. Get well.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:32:34am

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Sorry I’ve been absent. Apparently I’ve got a mild case of the ‘Rona. Splitting headaches, fever, chills, muscles cramping. No cough though, which is good.

Staying isolated w Mrs. Khal and trying to muster an appetite. Everything tastes bland.

Hey, maintain a 6 ft distance. I don’t want to pick up a computer virus.

//

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:33:44am
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Danack  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:33:57am

Hasn’t figured out how to personally profit it from it yet.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:33:58am
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Interesting Times  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:34:08am
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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:35:58am

People are not ending up on UI because they want to be there, many could be there for longer than the time the bill grants the extra money, but leave it to Repubs to worry that people might want to avoid the “dignity of work.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:36:28am

JFC, this asshole

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:36:46am

re: #20 Interesting Times

Exactly. We have to GOTV and vote him out of office along with the rest of his cronies.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:36:54am

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Sorry I’ve been absent. Apparently I’ve got a mild case of the ‘Rona. Splitting headaches, fever, chills, muscles cramping. No cough though, which is good.

Staying isolated w Mrs. Khal and trying to muster an appetite. Everything tastes bland.

Drink lots of water. I keep seeing from people who have it… Water water water.

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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:37:20am

re: #4 lawhawk

That mindset is exactly why I find it so hard to forgive so many people I thought I knew. I was jacked up years ago with these people. I tried to back out and not go overboard.
There is no overboard. There is only more and pain and suffering if these jackals maintain any power. And they may, because cable news is a shit show, AM radio belongs to the haters and our regular TV and print news is gutless and owned by those whose sole purpose in life is to maintain good relations with Nazis.
It’s all reality TV and the mindless must be preserved.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:37:35am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Because the government ordering companies to make certain things goes completely against the conservative ideal of the “Free Market”.

I suspect that he was simply unaware of it and balked at the notion when presented to him because it was not his own brilliant idea…

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:37:42am

CL’d (of course!)

re: #595 PhillyPretzel

I know that is why I am staying at home. As I said earlier I will be going to the supermarket tomorrow. That is usually when my local Acme stocks up.

So I have tried a couple of grocery delivery options. Shipt >> Instacart. Of course, Shipt is based in Birmingham. Bought out by Target, but they did not move the Shipt operation. Support Target stores if you can.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:38:28am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, this asshole

Can Rand Paul’s neighbor punch him too? I have plenty of hand sanitize he can use afterwards.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:39:29am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:40:21am

re: #18 Danack

Hasn’t figured out how to personally profit it from it yet.

I was gonna say because he doesn’t understand it at all.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:41:07am

re: #29 jaunte

Despite what they think.A lot of us like being out and about and busy but we like being healthy even more but I wouldn’t expect the party that threw a shit fit at a First Lady championing healthy eating and whose icons are all a bunch of Jabba the Hutt cosplayers to get it.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:42:18am

re: #31 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!! I’M SET FOR LIFE!!!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:42:19am

re: #23 PhillyPretzel

Exactly. We have to GOTV and vote him out of office along with the rest of his cronies.

Total annihilation will send the message

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:42:19am
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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:42:22am

I can’t keep up, the threads are coming so thick and fast. Some time ago I mentioned that a friend’s daughter was a doctor at the hospital where the c19 patients from that first nursing home in Washington were taken. She wrote a column on Medium. The photo of the two adorable tots are hers. She is a sweet and wonderful woman.

medium.com

Also found a Social Distancing Scoreboard that grades each county in the US by the percentage of people staying home. Complicated, but good stuff.

unacast.com

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:43:06am

re: #5 jaunte

Trump is disordered enough to try to destroy us for not loving him enough.

Scorched Earth

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BeachDem  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:43:51am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, this asshole

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I feel for you as BOTH of my idiotic senators take center stage to bitch that people might get one dollar more than these assholes believe they should. Also, obligatory hope at the end of the Lindsey Graham tunnel:

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:44:16am

From the previous thread:

This points out a very realistic idea of the timeframe we’re looking at.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:44:21am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, this asshole

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Let me guess, Tommy is one of those morons who thinks if you just hand every worker an N95 mask, then they’re set to go back to work immediately and we can “reopen” the country?

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Skip Intro  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:44:29am

re: #5 jaunte

Trump is disordered enough to try to destroy us for not loving him enough.

Yes, he certainly is.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:45:24am

re: #37 BeachDem

I feel for you as BOTH of my idiotic senators take center stage to bitch that people might get one dollar more than these assholes believe they should. Also, obligatory hope at the end of the Lindsey Graham tunnel:

Hope he keeps it up. I really like Jaime.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:45:34am

So death rate in Germany is creeping up: 205 out of 37,098. My guess is that once all their cases have resolved, the CFR will be about 1.5% Of the 37,098 total, there remain 33,346 still active.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:45:56am

re: #40 Skip Intro

Yes, he certainly would.

That Austrian painter whose book he read certainly did to the Berliners when he blamed them for the defeat.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:46:46am

re: #32 jaunte

TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!! I’M SET FOR LIFE!!!

Seriously, they’re so cluelessly out of touch. I guess that’s what happens when you watch Ayn Rand on Pornhub daily.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:47:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:47:36am

re: #42 Hecuba’s daughter

So death rate in Germany is creeping up: 205 out of 37,098. My guess is that once all their cases have resolved, the CFR will be about 1.5% Of the 37,098 total, there remain 33,346 still active.

It has slowed down, only doubling every 4-5 days now.

Due to strict measures put in place on March 15.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:47:52am

re: #38 Belafon

Which probably means Trump will tweet that the Vaccines will be available in a couple of weeks.

half /

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:47:52am

re: #44 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They pretend it’s about economics, when it’s really about greed.

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:48:33am

From a facebook post of an infectious disease doc at Univ. of AL at Birmingham:

On Saturday I started notifying physicians and other staff at UAB that they have contracted COVID. Today- we called more UAB employees in one day than I have called the last three days combined. I spoke with sick physicians, scared staff who have put themselves on the front line to save all of you. I know some of them will need to be admitted to the hospital, some will need intensive care…
Our hospital is filling up. We have expanded the number of ICU’s. Soon we will turn OR suite’s into intensive care units.
We are on calls daily to increase our physician and nursing teams to care for an ever increasing number of patients, while some are “on the bench” because they have fallen ill with COVID. We are cycling teams trying to maintain staffing, preserving our staff, and trying to keep everyone healthy.
We have doctors making hard decisions about time while they are on hospital service for 2 weeks at a time. I have to decide if I will live away from my family when I am on hospital service so that I do not expose them (including one with asthma and one on immunosuppressants). Know that your healthcare providers are making many sacrifices at this time, working extremely long hours, time away from family, and worrying that it is still not going to be enough. We are running as fast as we can and we can’t keep up.
I know everyone is making sacrifices and I thank you. Please shelter in place. This will last a few months. check in with your family and friends via FaceTime or Zoom meetings. Take one trip to the grocery store per week. Help us help you.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:50:24am

My prediction: Total cases in US will exceed total “reported” cases in China by the end of the week and US will be #1. Of course, that’s deceptive because as a percentage of population, it will not be near the top.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:53:08am

re: #34 The Pie Overlord!

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You just know that laptop took out the kid.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:53:13am

re: #49 BlueSpotinAL

Do you have the facebook link for that? I would like to share it once I can get on there.

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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:53:22am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:53:55am

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

Why does Michigan have so many more cases and a much higher number of deaths than my state of Illinois?

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:54:16am

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

I can’t see the tweet she’s responding to, but I’m assuming Lisa doesn’t want a ventilator from Trump cause she’s being mean. //

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:54:39am

re: #50 Hecuba’s daughter

My prediction: Total cases in US will exceed total “reported” cases in China by the end of the week and US will be #1. Of course, that’s deceptive because as a percentage of population, it will not be near the top.

And were still rationing the testing

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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:55:01am

re: #55 Hecuba’s daughter

Why does Michigan have so many more cases and a much higher number of deaths than my state of Illinois?

Ever really been to Michigan?

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:56:02am

re: #32 jaunte

TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!! I’M SET FOR LIFE!!!

But yeah, a $1 billion bailout for the airlines or cruise lines is not enough, because reasons.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:57:14am

re: #45 The Pie Overlord!

Ah. Thank you. I needed that.

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:58:59am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:59:27am

re: #34 The Pie Overlord!

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that is SOOOOO Wallace & Gromit!

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:59:40am
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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:00:48pm

Not as if it’s a national emergency.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:01:05pm

re: #63 jaunte

Any excuse to get away from Rand Paul.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:01:44pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

Let me guess, Tommy is one of those morons who thinks if you just hand every worker an N95 mask, then they’re set to go back to work immediately and we can “reopen” the country?

He’s an MIT grad and Libertarian who is smarter than everyone else.

blech

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:01:53pm

re: #57 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

And were still rationing the testing

they are still stubbornly, stunningly refusing to accept that much of this is the high school math they thought they’d never need

they simply won’t admit that they weren’t paying attention during algebra, so it can’t possibly be a key to the solution

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calochortus  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:02:58pm

I see Freepers are mostly against the idea of dying for the economy themselves. What a surprise.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:03:28pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s an MIT grad and Libertarian who is smarter than everyone else.

blech

I really hope if anything comes of this, it shows libertarians that their fantasy world of economics is just that. And as much as I like that Amash hates Trump and voted for his impeachment, he too is an economics clown who should have actually learned economics instead of reading Ron Paul’s economics fantasy bullshit.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:03:29pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:03:53pm

re: #68 calochortus

I see Freepers are mostly against the idea of dying for the economy themselves. What a surprise.

They’re all for those people dying but not them.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:04:14pm

re: #67 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

they are still stubbornly, stunningly refusing to accept that much of this is the high school math they thought they’d never need

they simply won’t admit that they weren’t paying attention during algebra

Numbers are just abstract concepts anyway. Even if they got the idea, that does not mean they know how to map it to the real world. There are very few things in life that expose us to exponential growth.

What they truly lack once again is empathy. They cannot think of how others might be impacted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:04:31pm

re: #70 jaunte

THIS.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:04:34pm

re: #70 jaunte

Maybe we should lay off Republican senators and members of the House. I’d be happy to see them on the dole.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:04:51pm

re: #70 jaunte

Dang. This stinks. :(

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calochortus  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:05:23pm

re: #71 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They’re all for those people dying but not them.

Why yes, they are. Dem. politicians? Sure. MSM reporters? Why not! Themselves and their loved ones? Not on a bet.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:06:46pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:06:58pm

re: #76 calochortus

Why yes, they are. Dem. politicians? Sure. MSM reporters? Why not! Themselves and their loved ones? Not on a bet.

I really hope more people realize that Trump only cares about his paper economy than he does the welfare of the American people. We saw his shitty attitude about Romney testing negative. Can’t imagine how he’ll act if someone he dislikes tests positive.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:07:16pm

re: #74 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I would love to see McConnell unload a grocery delivery. Both tractor trailers Mitch.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:07:18pm

Senators don’t know how working works.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:07:20pm

Florida coronavirus update for Wednesday: DeSantis won’t issue stay-home order as cases surpass 1,600, Orange stay-home order begins Thursday

Speaking in Orange County, where a stay-at-home order goes into effect Thursday, Gov. Ron DeSantis stood by his position that a statewide shutdown to protect against the coronavirus isn’t necessary. He said the stay-at-home mandate is better suited for hard-hit areas of the state such as South Florida.

Florida’s coronavirus case count shot up by more than 200 Wednesday, a day after a the Senate and White House reached a deal for a $2 trillion stimulus package meant to put $1,200 per adult and $500 per child into Americans’ bank accounts to stem the economic fallout from the pandemic.

[…]

Though several counties have done shutdown orders, they are a patchwork, both in geography and nature.

DeSantis is going to hold out until he gets the praise (and money and ventilators, etc.) from Trump he wants.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:08:26pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, this asshole

he sounds nice

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:08:31pm

re: #81 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Florida coronavirus update for Wednesday: DeSantis won’t issue stay-home order as cases surpass 1,600, Orange stay-home order begins Thursday

Though several counties have done shutdown orders, they are a patchwork, both in geography and nature.

DeSantis is going to hold out until he gets the praise (and money and ventilators, etc.) from Trump he wants.

DeSanitis is too busy blaming New Yorkers and New Jerseyians even though his Trump kissing his ass refused to close the beaches before it was too late.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:10:25pm

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200322 edition ———————>
(Falling Water)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:12:40pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:13:01pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:13:15pm

So Prince Charles tests positive for the virus. He better be in quarantine to not give it to his mother.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:13:24pm

re: #72 Belafon

Numbers are just abstract concepts anyway. Even if they got the idea, that does not mean they know how to map it to the real world. There are very few things in life that expose us to exponential growth.

What they truly lack once again is empathy. They cannot think of how others might be impacted.

wasnt that after geometry, before algebra

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:14:45pm

Hard as fuck to take this “Worry for the workin’ man” horseshit serious from Senate Repubs when they planned to vote on this bill today and then ditch town for 3 weeks…after just getting back from a 3-day weekend.

And they have the gall to suggest that people would, if given an extra $1,200 per paycheck, choose to stay home rather than work.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:15:11pm

re: #88 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

wasnt that after geometry, before algebra

Yeah, but it was never a required course.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:16:03pm

re: #38 Belafon

From the previous thread:

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This points out a very realistic idea of the timeframe we’re looking at.

They were one of the first on it. Before any of the others.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed and hoping it’s not a “rise in stock” thing. Praying, actually. May the universe respond favorably.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:17:12pm

re: #85 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

A blunt headline from NBC:

Americans don’t know what to do about coronavirus. Neither does the president.

Many of Trump’s allies and critics see a commander-in-chief who is actually torn by competing instincts, advice and political pressures, which helps explain why he is delivering confusing messages to the American public while using only some of the powers available to him to fight the spread of the disease.

because he has zero sense of ‘public service’

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:17:13pm

re: #44 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Seriously, they’re so cluelessly out of touch. I guess that’s what happens when you watch Ayn Rand on Pornhub daily.

There’s an image to haunt me throughout eternity.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:17:57pm

re: #91 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They were one of the first on it. Before any of the others.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed and hoping it’s not a “rise in stock” thing. Praying, actually. May the universe respond favorably.

Definitely. But we’re realistically looking at next year before wide spread vaccination, befure we can starting thinking of returning to “normal.”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:18:46pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

Hard as fuck to take this “Worry for the workin’ man” horseshit serious from Senate Repubs when they planned to vote on this bill today and then ditch town for 3 weeks…after just getting back from a 3-day weekend.

And they have the gall to suggest that people would, if given an extra $1,200 per paycheck (once), choose to stay home rather than work (forever).

(and after the benefits have stopped)

—-
this is worse than a scrooge argument and these guys are not making a good look here

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:19:02pm

re: #93 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There’s an image to haunt me throughout eternity.

If they watched pornhub and didn’t emerge from the room, we’d all be better off.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:20:48pm

The world ‘squandered’ its first opportunity to stop coronavirus: WHO

The time to act to fight the novel coronavirus was one or two months ago, and countries “squandered” the opportunity, according to the director-general of the World Health Organization.

Speaking at a press conference Wednesday, WHO director-general Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said his organization had been warning for months about the dangers of COVID-19, but countries didn’t take action.

“If you remember, we have been saying for more than two months now, this virus is public enemy number one,” he said.

[…]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:22:06pm

re: #70 jaunte

Let’s not over-complicate this.

Several Republican Senators are holding up the bipartisan Coronavirus emergency bill because they think the bill is too good for laid off Americans.

They should add a measure making it dependent on means testing and mandatory drug tests…that would please them.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:23:11pm

re: #11 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Sorry I’ve been absent. Apparently I’ve got a mild case of the ‘Rona. Splitting headaches, fever, chills, muscles cramping. No cough though, which is good.

Staying isolated w Mrs. Khal and trying to muster an appetite. Everything tastes bland.

Please update several times a day. This disease moves fast.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:23:38pm

re: #68 calochortus

I see Freepers are mostly against the idea of dying for the economy themselves. What a surprise.

Really? Is the tide turning?

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:24:37pm

Someone sent me a thing, for when this is all over. I have not idea of the origin, sorry!

“My husband purchased a world map… gave me a dart and said ‘throw this and whever it lands I’m taking you for a holiday when this pandemic is over’. Turns out we’re spending two weeks behind the fridge.”

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:25:48pm

re: #101 retired cynic

Thanks. I needed a laugh. :)

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:26:16pm

re: #102 PhillyPretzel

Thanks. I needed a laugh. :)

We ALL do! Every hour on the hour!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:26:31pm

According to Der Spiegel, the G7 foreign ministers haven’t been able to agree on a joint statement on the coronavirus because of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s insistence that they call it the “Wuhan virus.”

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:26:52pm

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:27:42pm

re: #105 retired cynic

No one except the cat. lol

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:28:10pm

re: #104 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

According to Der Spiegel, the G7 foreign ministers haven’t been able to agree on a joint statement on the coronavirus because of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s insistence that they call it the “Wuhan virus.”

Fucked up beyond all redemption…

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:28:13pm

OK. Back to work!

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calochortus  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:28:42pm

re: #100 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Really? Is the tide turning?

Who knows? I mean they never wanted things to affect them personally, I think it’s beginning to dawn on them that it just might.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:28:56pm

First case confirmed in Brenham, Texas, half an hour down the road. Rural America is not escaping.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:29:13pm

According to the political betting markets, Gov. Andrew Cuomo is now more likely than Sen. Bernie Sanders to be the Democratic presidential nominee.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:29:54pm

CANCEL CULTURE!!!11th

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:30:42pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

Hard as fuck to take this “Worry for the workin’ man” horseshit serious from Senate Repubs when they planned to vote on this bill today and then ditch town for 3 weeks…after just getting back from a 3-day weekend.

And they have the gall to suggest that people would, if given an extra $1,200 per paycheck, choose to stay home rather than work.

yeah they were pissed AF earlier this week cuz Senate Dems and NANCY SMASH! were standing in the way of their unaccountable 500 billion dollar slush fund and DEMANDED that Dems not block their bill but NOW a few extra dollars going to the poors has them all in a dither.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:30:58pm

The last episode of Downton Abbey is on WHYY (12.2).

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:31:34pm

re: #68 calochortus

I see Freepers are mostly against the idea of dying for the economy themselves. What a surprise.

no buy they still want the rest of us to go back to work and die to feed the machine.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:31:49pm

My dark suspicion is that Trump is hoping states will fight amongst themselves, in order to keep them from uniting against him.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:31:53pm

“…I find the utmost of selfishness to hold up this huge bill that’s going to help working people because some states pay so little in unemployment compensation that in our effort to craft something that would be fair to the majority of workers that some of the workers in these states, some of the poorer states will get a little bit more. I think that speaks a lot to what these people are talking about. Were it not for the 72 hours that we fought for workers and for what Chuck Schumer refers to as the Marshal Plan, the same people who brought us the $1.5 trillion in tax cuts for the richest people and companies in our country would be getting what they want. Once again, very little for the workers, and that’s why we fought so hard. “

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BeachDem  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:32:25pm

re: #81 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Florida coronavirus update for Wednesday: DeSantis won’t issue stay-home order as cases surpass 1,600, Orange stay-home order begins Thursday

Though several counties have done shutdown orders, they are a patchwork, both in geography and nature.

DeSantis is going to hold out until he gets the praise (and money and ventilators, etc.) from Trump he wants.

Done and done. Spit.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:36:36pm

re: #118 BeachDem

Done and done. Spit.

Governor Hogan in Maryland has made what I think is the same or similar request.

Hogan is an (R) but it’s a heavily blue state and Hogan flirted with opposing the mango moron this election cycle but opted not to run.

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Skip Intro  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:40:32pm

re: #112 makeitstop

CANCEL CULTURE!!!11th

Not Trump though.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:40:35pm

Nice.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:41:32pm

Maybe Costco should ask local law enforcement to help enforce separation.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:42:28pm
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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:42:30pm

Mob up, and make sure the virus gets into the store early.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:42:37pm

re: #123 jaunte

Maybe Costco should ask local law enforcement to help enforce separation.

My dad went to one of the Walmarts at 6:30, during senior hour, and said they were worse than the people at the other times of the day.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:43:50pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

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Taking sick people out of the workforce is kind of the point.

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calochortus  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:43:53pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

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Ummm, nurses are getting bonuses and freelancers are apparently getting up to $100/hour, so sure.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:44:09pm

re: #124 The Pie Overlord!

Well, I wouldn’t mind us getting to where, in a family, one parent can choose to stay home. We just need it so that it can be either parent.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:44:12pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:46:30pm

re: #130 jaunte

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buried in there:

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:46:36pm

re: #130 jaunte

Lindsay doesn’t really mean nurses or doctors, of course.

But better to frame it like the essential health care workers are lazies and we need them to work.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:47:16pm

re: #131 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

buried in there:

Starting to think that Donnie and Fox News, and The Federalist would be fine with those numbers.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:49:17pm

re: #133 Sir John Barron

Starting to think that Donnie and Fox News, and The Federalist would be fine with those numbers.

They would be until they figure out that some of the dead are their own end. In which case they’ll accuse the Dems of “genociding” their voters.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:49:45pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:51:12pm

re: #135 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Does she want to pre-order her grave? (sorry for the black humor)

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:52:07pm

Berners can’t help themselves. BIDEN IS NOT THE ENEMY YOU FUCKERS. Also he said the opposite of that.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:53:22pm

re: #137 The Pie Overlord!

Berners can’t help themselves. BIDEN IS NOT THE ENEMY YOU FUCKERS. Also he said the opposite of that.

They don’t even bother watching what Biden actually says and does because they have this delusional view that Biden has dementia. I’m sick of their shit and I hope Bernie after this election is as discredited as Trump. I mean every word of that. I hate what Bernie Sanders has done to a generation of young left wingers. He’s made them stupid and mean but mostly stupid.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:54:56pm

re: #138 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

DT and Sanders need to be discredited. I like Joe and I want him to win.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:57:46pm

Just in case anyone might give an old lady a Hi! Doesn’t have to be curling related.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:58:39pm

re: #139 PhillyPretzel

DT and Sanders need to be discredited. I like Joe and I want him to win.

We can only hope. My problem with Sanders isn’t ideology really but approach. The whole my way or the highway bullshit. Not to mention lying to college kids. I particularly resented as a former teenaged Iraq War protester him claiming to have led the opposition to the war in Iraq. That was a bold faced lie.

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:58:54pm

re: #53 Belafon

Do you have the facebook link for that? I would like to share it once I can get on there.

Facebook Post

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 25, 2020 • 12:59:48pm

Look what I got in the mail. OK, maybe edited for truth.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:00:31pm

re: #143 BlueSpotinAL

I got mine earlier today, it is in the trash.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:01:58pm

OT:

jXfs2F/KXkkhWu8i19T+8VXb45qffPGORSQLHyf5DDg2JaC5pBbrAadeDB+W7prAIXISrPcoldYlnbbaRywgt3hZIfKgk8XmCvjRseVsm3BU6c025kr83QyCIS3yGYeAaIlS/djXykztMacEdVvKuWMVYcCJb1nRYvY1ZpXs9qzyTwROCcSfSWcS2WRoOhwgZQ+HILWR7OdV+BwEoVfWnxa4GTK0iXLlbVResYkuv/DjqQN3A/K8XqYk8S34XG4PLcb3EdGC5tIHcTk0Apz55/ybYTSfPVZkJErRb6eyq54cnah+4spW/tMwlXm+WHHhSzv0VNTfWdu6KK5TZXsNR4hHjT0bSKLNXdUc3GQnklz1hO2+1oROxjfGrOVEZq42AbbEqBDZ8FZD1GDfy7vyUbDQ8cXLZ+RscGCK4uezelg+4mP8TntMFaoLCMFAIjoK

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:02:15pm

re: #136 PhillyPretzel

Does she want to pre-order her grave? (sorry for the black humor)

I modestly propose that once a vaccine is available, people who refuse to take it be denied medical care when they contract covid19. Won’t happen, obviously.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:03:19pm

re: #146 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I modestly propose that once a vaccine is available, people who refuse to take it be denied medical care when they contract covid19. Won’t happen, obviously.

“you got insurance, right?”

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A Mom Anon  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:05:53pm

Welcome to Duh Apocalypse Everybody! Yay!

I went to my local Kroger store during senior hour at 7 am and managed to find some things, but I’m getting scared about the disruption of some supplies. No meat hardly at all. Dairy is mostly ok, but stuff like cottage cheese and coffee creamer are getting very low. Bread was pretty much wiped out. Produce was well stocked, but barely any frozen or canned veggies or soups or anything. No rice, no beans, cereals are running low. I think we’re ok, except for milk maybe, for about 3 weeks.

I’m terrified of where we’ll be in that time. What if food supplies dry up? Or medicines are delayed shipment because too many workers get sick? When this settles many proverbial heads need to roll. Bigly.

I’m trying not to panic and let my anxiety do it’s thing ,but holy shitmuffins peeps, this is just off the rails messed up? Our system has some seriously huge holes in it that need repaired. That is if we can learn some fucking lessons from HOPEFULLY surviving a fucking pandemic. Holy shit, I can’t even believe just the pandemic part, let alone the rest.

Hugs all around. With masks and gloves and 6 ft apart. Take care of yourselves. Those of you with symptoms, please take care even more. Love ya’all. Seriously.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:08:20pm

as to the line of succession

The West Wing covered it (authoritative right?)

With the office of Vice-President vacant after John Hoynes’s resignation due to a sex scandal, the amendment requires that following the line of succession, the Speaker of the House, Glen Allen Walken, take over the presidency temporarily. After Walken is sworn in as President, conflicts have already begun between him and President Bartlet’s staff, one of the reasons being that Bartlet is a Democrat and Walken is a Republican. Bartlet tries to calm Walken, stating that the staff are all trying to resolve the situation, to which Walken replies “You are relieved, Mr. President.”

further, Bartlett was neither dead nor physically incapacitated in any way. he did it voluntarily because his daughter was kidnapped and he felt he was too distracted to pay attention to natsec implications

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:08:28pm

re: #146 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I modestly propose that once a vaccine is available, people who refuse to take it be denied medical care when they contract covid19. Won’t happen, obviously.

If a doctor has to choose between a patient with pneumonia and a person who didn’t get vaccinated for Covid-19 but could have, the doctor must choose the pheumonia patient.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:08:53pm

re: #148 A Mom Anon

I’m terrified of where we’ll be in that time. What if food supplies dry up? Or medicines are delayed shipment because too many workers get sick? When this settles many proverbial heads need to roll. Bigly.

“Any society is three warm meals away from anarchy.”

(seen this attributed alternately to Lenin, Terry Pratchett and Robert Heinlein)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:09:14pm

Kentucky and Tennessee reported their first cases became day. Tn now has 17x more cases, because Ky. Gov. Beshear aggressively ordered social distancing, and Tn Gov. Lee didn’t. Social distancing works.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:12:03pm

re: #148 A Mom Anon

Welcome to Duh Apocalypse Everybody! Yay!

I went to my local Kroger store during senior hour at 7 am and managed to find some things, but I’m getting scared about the disruption of some supplies. No meat hardly at all. Dairy is mostly ok, but stuff like cottage cheese and coffee creamer are getting very low. Bread was pretty much wiped out. Produce was well stocked, but barely any frozen or canned veggies or soups or anything. No rice, no beans, cereals are running low. I think we’re ok, except for milk maybe, for about 3 weeks.

I’m terrified of where we’ll be in that time. What if food supplies dry up? Or medicines are delayed shipment because too many workers get sick? When this settles many proverbial heads need to roll. Bigly.

I’m trying not to panic and let my anxiety do it’s thing ,but holy shitmuffins peeps, this is just off the rails messed up? Our system has some seriously huge holes in it that need repaired. That is if we can learn some fucking lessons from HOPEFULLY surviving a fucking pandemic. Holy shit, I can’t even believe just the pandemic part, let alone the rest.

Hugs all around. With masks and gloves and 6 ft apart. Take care of yourselves. Those of you with symptoms, please take care even more. Love ya’all. Seriously.

Food supplies and so on will not dry up. The supply chains are robust and the food sources themselves are not going away. Even if half the workers are out there will still be more than enough food. The US is a net exporter and there has been no concomitant environmental catastrophe like the Dust Bowl to hurt the food supply. The only reason there is any shortage of anything right now is because almost everyone has panic bought 3x of things they might not even normally use.

The supply of medical equipment is what is going to kill us, and particularly people like me. And the solution for that, for the average person, is to not use any supplies, by staying home and not getting sick.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:13:29pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:14:34pm

JFCOAEBWTOMD (JFC On An Electrified Barbed Wire Tightrope Over Mt. Doom)

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:15:41pm

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

JFCOAEBWTOMD (JFC On An Electrified Barbed Wire Tightrope Over Mt. Doom)

such presidential very caring classy.

/

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:16:15pm

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

Oy Vey. Can’t DT just for once shut up.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:16:16pm

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

JFCOAEBWTOMD (JFC On An Electrified Barbed Wire Tightrope Over Mt. Doom)

dude is out of control and needs adult supervision

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:16:31pm

Priceless.

According to Vice, the Portland-based author of the piece is a dermatologist who is not currently licensed to practice medicine in the state of Oregon.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:16:42pm

re: #150 Belafon

If a doctor has to choose between a patient with pneumonia and a person who didn’t get vaccinated for Covid-19 but could have, the doctor must choose the pheumonia patient.

I’m afraid we don’t make those distinctions. That’s not ethical and not what we signed up for.

Now, we are imperfect. Too many of us still treat people differently based on things like race, obesity, or other value judgements that we should not make. But most of us are still ethical. And we’re not going to look at someone with a self-inflicted injury and let them suffer because of that. Difficult choices like the ones people are making right now in New York and Italy are miserable. But we aren’t going to decide that somebody is less deserving because they are selfish or stupid. That would disqualify most of us at least at some point in our lives.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:16:44pm

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Kentucky and Tennessee reported their first cases became day. Tn now has 17x more cases, because Ky. Gov. Beshear aggressively ordered social distancing, and Tn Gov. Lee didn’t. Social distancing works.

Thank goodness you guys elected him.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:17:19pm

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

The LameStream Media is the dominant force in trying to get me to keep our Country closed as long as possible in the hope that it will be detrimental to my election success.

He’s insane.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:17:30pm

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

JFCOAEBWTOMD (JFC On An Electrified Barbed Wire Tightrope Over Mt. Doom)

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He never shuts the fuck up.

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bratwurst  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:17:32pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:18:20pm

re: #164 bratwurst

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But Jared let him watch when he played doctor with Ivanka!

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Mike Lamb  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:18:21pm

It is going to be 8 types of “hilarious” when the US is the largest overall and eventually the last hotspot on the planet; other countries start calling it the Trump Virus or the American Virus; and Americans are getting bullied/assaulted in other parts of the world as a result.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:18:49pm

re: #162 jaunte

He’s insane.

He is and the whole world can see it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:19:35pm

re: #166 Mike Lamb

It is going to be 8 types of “hilarious” when the US is the largest overall and eventually the last hotspot on the planet; other countries start calling it the Trump Virus or the American Virus; and Americans are getting bullied/assaulted in other parts of the world as a result.

I don’t want that but he is setting us up to be pariahs because of his stupid, vain bullshit.

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EPR-radar  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:19:44pm

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

Trump really is a psychopath and narcissist. Absolutely the only thing that ever matters to him about anything is whether or not he thinks he is ‘winning’.

The only reason we haven’t had a mass launch of US nuclear weapons is because Trump hasn’t yet seen that as a ‘win’ for him. Ditto for starting world war III.

The man is intrinsically disordered, and in a sensible society he would have been institutionalized for life to keep him from damaging normal people. Instead, because of a similar derangement of the Republican Party, and stupid US worship of wealth/celebrity, we have this shitbird as president.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:19:46pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:19:56pm

re: #148 A Mom Anon

Welcome to Duh Apocalypse Everybody! Yay!

I went to my local Kroger store during senior hour at 7 am and managed to find some things, but I’m getting scared about the disruption of some supplies. No meat hardly at all. Dairy is mostly ok, but stuff like cottage cheese and coffee creamer are getting very low. Bread was pretty much wiped out. Produce was well stocked, but barely any frozen or canned veggies or soups or anything. No rice, no beans, cereals are running low. I think we’re ok, except for milk maybe, for about 3 weeks.

I’m terrified of where we’ll be in that time. What if food supplies dry up? Or medicines are delayed shipment because too many workers get sick? When this settles many proverbial heads need to roll. Bigly.

I’m trying not to panic and let my anxiety do it’s thing ,but holy shitmuffins peeps, this is just off the rails messed up? Our system has some seriously huge holes in it that need repaired. That is if we can learn some fucking lessons from HOPEFULLY surviving a fucking pandemic. Holy shit, I can’t even believe just the pandemic part, let alone the rest.

Hugs all around. With masks and gloves and 6 ft apart. Take care of yourselves. Those of you with symptoms, please take care even more. Love ya’all. Seriously.

anecdata only:

- i heard an interview on the radio about the food supply chain. it’s mostly ‘intact’ and functioning. in fact producers/packagers are repackaging what otherwise would have been bulk going to restaurants into consumer sized and redirecting the flow… after all where’s all that product gonna go? take out wouldnt nearly cover it.

- different regions are experiencing different kinds of shortages - due to both your oh so inconsiderate neighbors, and regional/cultural/ethnic differences

- there are three publix stores within 2 miles of us. things are similar in all three. no meat or chicken or pork unless you want chicken feet. for some reason they have lots of those. plenty of seafood. no paper or cleaning products. lots of soup. no pasta. lots of cheese, ice cream about 50% cold milk on the shelves. no boxed milk. 60-75% fresh produce, with spotty empty spaces. lots of food at the deli counter but no one waiting there to be served.

there is plenty of food, maybe not what i or someone else might want specifically but more than enough to eat.

on a whim we went to whole foods. similar no pasta etc. mostly full produce. the big difference is they had a lot of meat and chicken. compared to publix 2 miles away. at least 30 whole chickens, packages of parts (bell and evans) and lots of frozen stuff. plenty of fish too - fresh and frozen.

yes, im guessing. there is no food shortage. it was a run on emergency stocking up (valid) and scare hoarding (fair - valid) and hoarding for profit (assholes).

i think it’s mostly temporary and localized and within another 2 or so weeks there should be way more of a ‘normal’ look.

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steve_davis  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:20:09pm

re: #20 Interesting Times

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It’s one of the reasons I’m rather hoping that Dante’s Comedy turns out to be more than metaphorical bit of architecture. I’m fairly confident I’m Purgatorio material, so I feel somewhat safe in kind of hoping that, without redemption, many Republican senators find themselves getting squeezed through the shite, with maybe a couple of union-mandated tea breaks from time to time.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:20:21pm

NewsMax paying $150k. Wow.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:20:46pm

re: #154 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Did she lose? I wasn’t paying that much attention.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:21:37pm

He makes it all about him.

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:22:57pm

re: #170 The Pie Overlord!

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They really are both stupid and mean. Joke’s gonna be on them when no one takes them seriously politically. They should try bending their knees. I hear it’s great for getting the bullshit out.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:23:34pm

re: #123 jaunte

When I was out in Palm Springs, we’d stop there to get gas. To see the crowds lined up like that is insane, and little different than the lines to enter customs control at the airports where they’re funneling everyone through to get screened for covid19 (putting sick, potentially sick, and healthy people in close contact with zero social distancing in effect).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:23:38pm

re: #173 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

NewsMax paying $150k. Wow.

I look in there from time to time, just to check up on the latest RW talking points and opinions.

Cannot bring myself to watch or read Fox.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:23:38pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

He makes it all about him.

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

He wants to be a king.

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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:23:43pm

Tomorrow………….

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EPR-radar  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:23:44pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

He makes it all about him.

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

Of course he does. Donnie may end up with his own DSM category before this is done — solipsist.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:23:54pm

Trump Kills

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:24:17pm

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Kentucky and Tennessee reported their first cases became day. Tn now has 17x more cases, because Ky. Gov. Beshear aggressively ordered social distancing, and Tn Gov. Lee didn’t. Social distancing works.

you lead from in front
you lead from the top

even though there’s no ‘enforcement’, the tone from the top is heard and understood.

witness the various states vs each other
and the entirely falling down on its face federal response

the trump admin is losing because they cant/wont take their eye off the politics of it

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:24:22pm

re: #181 EPR-radar

Of course he does. Donnie may end up with his own DSM category before this is done — solipsist.

Donald Trump Syndrome.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:25:30pm

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

JFCOAEBWTOMD (JFC On An Electrified Barbed Wire Tightrope Over Mt. Doom)

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like i just finished saying: all about the politics, fuck the citizens

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:26:06pm

re: #165 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

But Jared let him watch when he played doctor with Ivanka!

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:26:30pm

re: #184 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Donald Trump Syndrome.

The real Trump Derangement Syndrome

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:26:57pm

re: #182 jaunte

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Trump Kills

Free Market American healthcare FTW!

*spit*

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:27:04pm

re: #167 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He is and the whole world can see it.

they have for a while.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:28:19pm

re: #185 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

The LameStream Media is the dominant force in trying to get me to keep our Country closed as long as possible in the hope that it will be detrimental to my election success. The real people want to get back to work ASAP. We will be stronger than ever before!

If he had been able to show leadership, a tanked economy would not necessarily derail his re-election chances.

But he lacks the chops and the people to do so, and really just assumed that a rising stock market index and falling unemployment figures would buoy him to a second term, and refused to see beyond that simplistic formula.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:28:31pm

re: #189 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

they have for a while.

Been overseas twice since he became potus. No one admitted to liking him.

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Skip Intro  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:28:34pm

re: #182 jaunte

Trump Kills

If Trump decides that insulin is the magic bullet, diabetics all over the world will die. That’s the power this irresponsible ignoramus has now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:30:36pm

re: #192 Skip Intro

If Trump decides that insulin is the magic bullet, diabetics all over the world will die. That’s the power this irresponsible, ignoramus has now.

He is still looking for a Hail Mary Play.

Which is why I am certain he is going to go through with the back-to-work advisory at Easter, call it the “American Resurrection” and have his people play it as pitting True Christian Free Market Capitalists vs Secularist Traitorous Deep State Socialists.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:31:06pm

re: #184 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Donald Trump Syndrome.

and the magats: Trumphausen Syndrome By Proxy

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:32:04pm

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is still looking for a Hail Mary Play.

Which is why I am certain he is going to go through with the back-to-work advisory at Easter, call it the “American Resurrection” and have his people play it as pitting True Christian Free Market Capitalists vs Secularist Traitorous Deep State Socialists.

It’s not gonna work.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:32:05pm

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If he had been able to show leadership, a tanked economy would not necessarily derail his re-election chances.

But he lacks the chops and the people to do so, and really just assumed that a rising stock market index and falling unemployment figures would buoy him to a second term, and refused to see beyond that simplistic formula.

he knows nothing about leadership or public service

he’s just a sociopathic needy bully

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:32:21pm

re: #143 BlueSpotinAL

Look what I got in the mail. OK, maybe edited for truth.

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I put that goddamned thing in the shredder.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:34:06pm

re: #196 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

he knows nothing about leadership or public service

he’s just a sociopathic needy bully

He was the uniquely unqualified man who beat the uniquely qualified woman because a lot of this country are filled with assholes who think a rotten piece of orange shit was presidential material because they think that this country was only made for white people.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:34:25pm

re: #197 Joe Bacon 🌹

Maybe I should do that. It sounds like it would give me a little bit of joy. :)

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Teukka  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:35:10pm

re: #155 The Pie Overlord!

JFCOAEBWTOMD (JFC On An Electrified Barbed Wire Tightrope Over Mt. Doom)

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:reaches for phone:

How many tables, how many lbs of popcorn, and how many barrels of Napalm you reckon this is going to demand?

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:35:14pm

re: #191 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Been overseas twice since he became potus. No one admitted to liking him.

Surely it’s been more than twice?

Though the “ not liking” part is certainly valid: and is probably related to Trump’s lack of interest in traveling abroad: He likely considers having to share a stage with grubby foreigners demeaning, and he doesn’t get the insane adulation he does at his MAGA rallies, which is all he cares about.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:35:53pm

re: #195 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s not gonna work.

a lot of people are gonna get caught in the middle of it all…

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BeachDem  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:36:04pm

re: #182 jaunte

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Trump Kills

Goes hand in hand with the article I posted earlier:

Doctors Are Hoarding Unproven Coronavirus Medicine By Writing Prescriptions For Themselves And Their Families

huffpost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:37:33pm

re: #191 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Been overseas twice since he became potus. No one admitted to liking him.

I have met a lot of people in Europe who hate Hillary as much or even more, but almost nobody who actually likes him, no.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:37:46pm

re: #174 Belafon

Did she lose? I wasn’t paying that much attention.

I don’t know.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:38:30pm

re: #201 Jay C

Surely it’s been more than twice?

Though the “ not liking” part is certainly valid: and is probably related to Trump’s lack of interest in traveling abroad: He likely considers having to share a stage with grubby foreigners demeaning, and he doesn’t get the insane adulation he does at his MAGA rallies, which is all he cares about.

Oh I meant my own experience. My cousin is a small village mayor in rural Slovakia. We met her in her office and she asked another cousin and me, “Trump? He’s crazy right?” Had a Canadian tell me “Oh thank god you didn’t vote for him, I don’t think I could like you if you did.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:39:20pm

re: #118 BeachDem

Done and done. Spit.

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so, according to that declaration, the pandemic began on January 20.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:39:25pm

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have met a lot of people in Europe who hate Hillary as much or even more, but almost nobody who actually likes him, no.

I mean there’s nothing likable about him. He’s a shit human being who owes his entire political existence to racism.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:39:31pm

re: #198 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He was the uniquely unqualified man who beat the uniquely qualified woman because a lot of this country are filled with assholes who think a rotten piece of orange shit was presidential material because they think that this country was only made for white people.

ie tp hoarders

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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:39:49pm

My thoughts on why he’s not doing it, could be an any/all situation:

a. there’s no way for him (or his family) to profit off of it
b. he really does think this is all a hoax
c. he doesn’t care because he’s (allegedly) not sick and/or if he does get sick he knows he’ll get treatment because he’s POTUS, so fuck everyone else
d. someone he doesn’t like told him he should do it, so he’s not doing it out of spite
e. someone he likes (and/or the last person he talked to) said he shouldn’t do it because reasons, so he’s not doing it
f. he wants this to be bad so he can argue that we have to shut down immigration and global trade completely in order to make America a third world country great again

If it was only one reason and not some combination, I’d say (a) is like even money; (b) is probably like 3:2 odds, (c) is probably like 7:2, (d) is 5:4 odds, (e) is 4:1, and (f) is maybe 9:2

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:40:04pm

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a lot of people are gonna get caught in the middle of it all…

Which is what I dread.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:40:49pm

re: #210 KGxvi

My thoughts on why he’s not doing it, could be an any/all situation:

a. there’s no way for him (or his family) to profit off of it
b. he really does think this is all a hoax
c. he doesn’t care because he’s (allegedly) not sick and/or if he does get sick he knows he’ll get treatment because he’s POTUS, so fuck everyone else
d. someone he doesn’t like told him he should do it, so he’s not doing it out of spite
e. someone he likes (and/or the last person he talked to) said he shouldn’t do it because reasons, so he’s not doing it
f. he wants this to be bad so he can argue that we have to shut down immigration and global trade completely in order to make America a third world country great again

If it was only one reason and not some combination, I’d say (a) is like even money; (b) is probably like 3:2 odds, (c) is probably like 7:2, (d) is 5:4 odds, (e) is 4:1, and (f) is maybe 9:2

I think it’s D.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:41:03pm

re: #171 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

As someone in an area where we’re probably 2ish weeks ahead of everyone else in terms of grocery store panic: it is evening out. Not perfect yet - there’s still very little pasta and the bread selection can be hit or miss. Dried beans and rice are still nowhere to be found (but dried beans were also really hard to get in January so …not sure what was up with that). Soup depends on if it was on sale or not (Campbell’s was and so there was nothing on those shelves, but Progresso wasn’t and was available). Meat is type-dependent. Frozen veggies …well, if you wanted chopped spinach you were in luck. Pretty much everything else is still MIA. Milk is low but has been available every time. Other dairy is doing pretty well at this point. Produce was good except for the mushrooms, last time.

On the flip side, I am not trying to go at any particular time of day or anything, so it might be I’m hitting after the restocking. I know I’m still stocking up a little more than normal, because I’m trying to only have to hit a store once a week - and normally I would do two stores. And since there are things I need at each store, it means sometimes I’m trying to shop for two weeks at a given store. I’ve been able to get everything I need by being willing to be adaptable though.

(No sign of toilet paper yet but we’re set for another month or so before I start worrying.)

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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:41:54pm

re: #198 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He was the uniquely unqualified man who beat the uniquely qualified woman because a lot of this country are filled with assholes who think a rotten piece of orange shit was presidential material because they think that this country was only made for white people.

My only quibble is that I don’t think Clinton was uniquely qualified. She was probably about the median for major party presidential nominees. But yes, he was and is uniquely unqualified for the position. And our antiquated indirect democracy with pseudo-direct democracy overlays fucked the world over.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:43:32pm

re: #210 KGxvi

My thoughts on why he’s not doing it, could be an any/all situation:

a. there’s no way for him (or his family) to profit off of it
b. he really does think this is all a hoax
c. he doesn’t care because he’s (allegedly) not sick and/or if he does get sick he knows he’ll get treatment because he’s POTUS, so fuck everyone else
d. someone he doesn’t like told him he should do it, so he’s not doing it out of spite
e. someone he likes (and/or the last person he talked to) said he shouldn’t do it because reasons, so he’s not doing it
f. he wants this to be bad so he can argue that we have to shut down immigration and global trade completely in order to make America a third world country great again

If it was only one reason and not some combination, I’d say (a) is like even money; (b) is probably like 3:2 odds, (c) is probably like 7:2, (d) is 5:4 odds, (e) is 4:1, and (f) is maybe 9:2

to be this bugfucking stubborn, with everybody watching
and clearly he’s got to be getting a lot of private pressure too
i think he doesnt understand it at all. what it means, what it does
so he has no basis on which to make a decision at all

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:44:17pm

re: #214 KGxvi

My only quibble is that I don’t think Clinton was uniquely qualified. She was probably about the median for major party presidential nominees. But yes, he was and is uniquely unqualified for the position. And our antiquated indirect democracy with pseudo-direct democracy overlays fucked the world over.

Fair enough but I do think her qualifications got ignored by the masses and his lack of qualifications got ignored even more. He had no business being a presidential candidate. And now we’re stuck with him during a pandemic because no one had the balls to tell him to go fuck himself and Ivanka alone in his lair.

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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:45:30pm

re: #215 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

to be this bugfucking stubborn, with everybody watching
and clearly he’s got to be getting a lot of private pressure too
i think he doesnt understand it at all. what it means, what it does
so he has no basis on which to make a decision at all

Fair, point, being a stubborn fucking moron is on the board at -200 for those wanting to place wagers… for entertainment purposes only, of course.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:46:01pm

re: #34 The Pie Overlord!

This shelter-in-place business is leaving people with way too much time on their hands.

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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:46:10pm

re: #216 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Fair enough but I do think her qualifications got ignored by the masses and his lack of qualifications got ignored even more. He had no business being a presidential candidate. And now we’re stuck with him during a pandemic because no one had the balls to tell him to go fuck himself and Ivanka alone in his lair.

Agreed.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:46:17pm

re: #213 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…Frozen veggies …well, if you wanted chopped spinach you were in luck….

curious that
also saw plenty of frozen kale, lima beans, collards and turnips

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:49:01pm

This is the stupidest Tweet you will see all hour:

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Skip Intro  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:49:28pm

Huffington Post doesn’t think much of the Senate bill, and if ther description is accurate I can see why.

huffpost.com

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:49:46pm

Kathy Griffin is in the hospital.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:50:16pm

re: #221 The Pie Overlord!

This is the stupidest Tweet you will see all hour:

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you keep saying that and then…. ;-)

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:50:23pm

OT: I just finished my shopping list and loaded it into the app I use when I shop at the Acme. We shall see what happens tomorrow morning. :)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:50:44pm

re: #223 makeitstop

Kathy Griffin is in the hospital.

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I’m sure Trump and Trump Jr will be thoughtful.//

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Teukka  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:54:02pm

re: #221 The Pie Overlord!

This is the stupidest Tweet you will see all hour:

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That is going to get people killed ;(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:56:19pm

re: #174 Belafon

Did she lose? I wasn’t paying that much attention.

Minnesota primary is in August.

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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:58:09pm

re: #171 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

and if it comes to it… the midwest has multiple enormous silos full of soy beans. More soybeans than you can shake a stick at.

(p.s. what’s the storage life of soybeans? Is last year’s crop still safe to eat?)

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:58:15pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 1:58:55pm

re: #219 KGxvi

Agreed.

It is frustrating. I mean I just wish someone with nothing to lose had told him flat out that he’s not qualified to clean up the horseshit in Central Park.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:00:14pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

Minnesota primary is in August.

I don’t know about Omar but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tlaib lose her primary.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:00:24pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:01:05pm

re: #233 jaunte

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Let’s call Mike Pompeo has a baby dick virus.//

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:01:52pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:03:02pm

re: #235 jaunte

Thank you Sen Duckworth.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:03:21pm

re: #227 Teukka

That is going to get people killed ;(

BUT MUH FREEDUMB!!!!!!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:03:36pm

re: #235 jaunte

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I hope Biden is vetting her. Lots of great choices tho.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:03:52pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:05:38pm

re: #233 jaunte

And if the virus had originated somewhere else, say, here in the U.S.? What would dear leader’s red hats want to call it then?

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:06:34pm

re: #240 Sir John Barron

The Democrat Virus.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:07:57pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:08:25pm

re: #241 jaunte

The Democrat Virus.

He’d blame Hispanics.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:09:16pm

re: #243 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

“Elvirus”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:09:20pm

re: #221 The Pie Overlord!

This is the stupidest Tweet you will see all hour:

Don’t know about that… so many stupid tweets are coming across per minute, that an hour seems like a long time.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:10:01pm

re: #220 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

curious that
also saw plenty of frozen kale, lima beans, collards and turnips

See, I would have bought collard greens if they had any (mr. klys eats on a regular basis), but no. It was pretty much chopped frozen spinach or bust.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:10:58pm

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:13:08pm

Well, nearly 90 cases in Santa Clara County today. Wouldn’t say we are bending the curve yet. (Another 12 hospitalized, death count up one. Presumed community transmission number has jumped significantly.)

Schools now closed through May 1.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:13:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:13:19pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:13:24pm

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

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Please tell me he has a credible opponent so that maybe we can dream about him spending more time with his Ayn Rand blowup doll.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:13:56pm

re: #249 Ace-o-aces

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And talk show hosts who set up phony universities?

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:14:30pm

re: #246 klys (maker of Silmarils)

See, I would have bought collard greens if they had any (mr. klys eats on a regular basis), but no. It was pretty much chopped frozen spinach or bust.

I made ribollita soup yesterday. The recipe requires kale but I didn’t have any so I used frozen spinach. It was kind of meh what whatcha gonna do?

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Interesting Times  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:16:24pm

On a “never ask how things can possibly get worse” note, has anyone else noticed the IBelieveTara hashtag?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:16:46pm

re: #251 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Please tell me he has a credible opponent so that maybe we can dream about him spending more time with his Ayn Rand blowup doll.

the Republicans running against him are all trump fanbois who say Massie is anti-trump.

The Democrats have 2 women running, but I’ve heard nothing about them

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:17:25pm

All hail Emperor Cheeto the Naked! He has replenished our supply of toilet paper (some softening required).

(Got this in the mail today)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:17:35pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:17:44pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

the Republicans running against him are all trump fanbois who say Massie is anti-trump.

The Democrats have 2 women running, but I’ve heard nothing about them

It really is teh Trump party now isn’t it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:18:16pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:19:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:19:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:20:07pm
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Renaissance_Man  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:20:47pm

re: #258 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It really is teh Trump party now isn’t it?

It has been the party of Trump for at least twenty years, even before there was a Trump in politics. It has been a party that values nothing except hating whatever enemies it imagines, cherishing nothing except the supremacy of the rich white male. Donald Trump is just their id - a human so obscene that he says the quiet part out loud, and so they feel free to say the same.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:20:52pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:20:53pm

re: #221 The Pie Overlord!

This is the stupidest Tweet you will see all hour:

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Where is it actually being enforced? Cops in Denver aren’t going door to door. And given that you can still leave basically whenever you want, methinks his “point” falls a bit short.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:21:06pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:21:31pm

re: #263 Renaissance_Man

It has been the party of Trump for at least twenty years, even before there was a Trump in politics. It has been a party that values nothing except hating whatever enemies it imagines, cherishing nothing except the supremacy of the rich white male. Donald Trump is just their id - a human so obscene that he says the quiet part out loud, and so they feel free to say the same.

Very true. It’s just pathetic how every Republican primary is about how much they can slobber over Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:22:15pm

re: #266 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Life comes at you fast.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:22:46pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:23:21pm

re: #254 Interesting Times

On a “never ask how things can possibly get worse” note, has anyone else noticed the IBelieveTara hashtag?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:23:54pm

re: #244 jaunte

“Elvirus”

YouTube

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:25:58pm

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh

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‘a model’ wont tell you shit

expansive testing will

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:26:23pm

This is going to piss off the mango menace.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:26:33pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:27:19pm

Kentucky bending the curve? Fewer new cases than the day before with more testing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:28:23pm

re: #275 NO SMOCKING GUN!

With incubation time of perhaps a couple of weeks, it will be a while before it is known how much the infection spread has slowed.

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BigPapa  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:28:52pm

So I’m set up at home to work. Due to a comedy of errors, I ended up with a 55” Sony 4k as my monitor. At work I have 3 x 28” 1080 panels. This is.. interesting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:29:18pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:30:28pm

re: #254 Interesting Times

On a “never ask how things can possibly get worse” note, has anyone else noticed the IBelieveTara hashtag?

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BeachDem  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:32:08pm

Thread on SC stats. Of particular interest:

4 out of 10 #coronavirus cases in SC are folks older than 60.
7 out of 10 are older than 40.
Average age of SC #coronavirus patients: 52
Age range: 2 months to 93 years

Black #coronavirus patients: 39%
Black SC population: 27%
(surprising that they’re even able to get tested in this state)

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:32:15pm

Jerk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:32:46pm

Mayor of Walton, Ky.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:33:05pm

re: #272 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

‘a model’ wont tell you shit

expansive testing will

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Not sharing? Dear me, they are aching to share them. Problem is, without data to plug in to them, no-one can choose the right one.

He really is a moron.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:33:15pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:33:20pm

re: #281 Patricia Kayden

Jerk

Can’t wait for Harrison to make that asshole unemployed in the fall.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:33:54pm

re: #284 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Shit I wouldn’t mind impeaching him again if he did ignore this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:36:54pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:37:03pm

re: #254 Interesting Times

On a “never ask how things can possibly get worse” note, has anyone else noticed the IBelieveTara hashtag?

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hate me if you must

biden

vs

covid-19
sanders
trump
a republican senate
a republican congress
a faltering and recovering economy
something else unexpected

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:37:23pm
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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:37:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:38:07pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:38:38pm

re: #281 Patricia Kayden

Jerk

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you gonna pay em forever?

asshat

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:39:20pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:39:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:40:36pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:41:06pm

On the supply front, my third try got me two big tins of powdered milk, so all I’m missing is hand sanitizer. (I have the stuff I made, but it’s too sticky.)

What that means is that for the first time, I’ve completed the “food” part of the earthquake preparation kit, leaving me pretty well set, as that was the only part I had neglected.

That also means I won’t have to drink the damned powdered milk without an emergency.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:42:10pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:42:51pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:44:06pm

Some monumental a-hole just tried to run up nearly $700 in fraudulent charges to my checking account.

Watch yo’ shit folks

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:46:02pm

Just got a bank statement in the mail today; Treasury just this past month put through a check I wrote to them back on October 31st. They’re not super quick.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:46:29pm
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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:48:00pm

The GOP has no idea how economies work.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:49:02pm

re: #301 Ace-o-aces

He never shuts the fuck up about the media. Fucking whiny asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:49:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:50:03pm
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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:50:37pm

Four Seasons steps up. Good for them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:51:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:52:19pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:52:57pm

Had no idea that a baby was the CEO for Instagram. He looks so young!

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:53:30pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:54:36pm

re: #310 jaunte

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About damn time.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:55:18pm

re: #311 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Time to isolate the contagion.

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steve_davis  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:55:19pm

re: #153 Renaissance_Man

Food supplies and so on will not dry up. The supply chains are robust and the food sources themselves are not going away. Even if half the workers are out there will still be more than enough food. The US is a net exporter and there has been no concomitant environmental catastrophe like the Dust Bowl to hurt the food supply. The only reason there is any shortage of anything right now is because almost everyone has panic bought 3x of things they might not even normally use.

The supply of medical equipment is what is going to kill us, and particularly people like me. And the solution for that, for the average person, is to not use any supplies, by staying home and not getting sick.

tell me about it. I’m a little pissed that I can’t get those little packaged stuffed chickens and stuff from Publix because elderly little basterds keep buying them up in their one hour of extra morning shopping :-)

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:55:31pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 25, 2020 • 2:59:04pm

re: #310 jaunte

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drip drip

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:01:52pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:02:18pm

re: #315 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

drip drip

WHY WONT FAILING CNN COVER ME!

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:03:43pm

Your feel-good doggie clip of the day

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steve_davis  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:04:18pm

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is still looking for a Hail Mary Play.

Which is why I am certain he is going to go through with the back-to-work advisory at Easter, call it the “American Resurrection” and have his people play it as pitting True Christian Free Market Capitalists vs Secularist Traitorous Deep State Socialists.

Trump is Anti-Christ. It would make all the sense in the world for him to lead his followers into eternal death following Easter. You could not turn that into a script without having skeptical editors the world over say, “that’s too pat. No one would believe it.” And yet, it could easily happen.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:13:52pm

re: #239 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I shoot left.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:14:53pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:18:43pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:22:07pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:22:26pm

re: #314 Charles Johnson

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Everyone here is aware of this, but the fact that he tweeted anything about this simply confirms the report.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:25:21pm

re: #315 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

drip drip

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Wonder if this will extend to rallies and the like after the pandemic restrictions ease.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:25:28pm

re: #323 goddamnedfrank

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Remember when they accused the Obama administration of lying about the unemployment numbers. Turns out that was yet more projection.

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:27:06pm
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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:27:46pm
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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:28:04pm

re: #238 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I hope Biden is vetting her. Lots of great choices tho.

I still don’t get why anyone who thinks they have a political future would want to be VP. Unless Biden flat out tells them that he’s not running for re-election in 2024, it still seems like the old proverbial bucket of warm piss. Why would anyone want to tie themselves entirely to someone else’s political fortunes?

I honestly think the Cheney/Biden profile - party elder statesman with likely no future political ambition is the smarter play. Of course, not sure how well that works when your nominee would be the oldest person ever to take the oath of office - which brings us back to the whole 1 term thing.

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aatharuv  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:28:32pm

re: #69 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I really hope if anything comes of this, it shows libertarians that their fantasy world of economics is just that. And as much as I like that Amash hates Trump and voted for his impeachment, he too is an economics clown who should have actually learned economics instead of reading Ron Paul’s economics fantasy bullshit.

He actually called for checks to be given to every person (and not companies) to solve the immediate issues, and figure out how to claw it back from those who didn’t need it later. He seems to be pragmatic enough in an emergency at least on economic issues.

Justin Amash tweet stream.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:31:21pm

re: #330 aatharuv

He actually called for checks to be given to every person (and not companies) to solve the immediate issues, and figure out how to claw it back from those who didn’t need it later. He seems to be pragmatic enough in an emergency at least on economic issues.

Justin Amash tweet stream.

Okay good for him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:32:17pm

re: #329 KGxvi

I still don’t get why anyone who thinks they have a political future would want to be VP. Unless Biden flat out tells them that he’s not running for re-election in 2024, it still seems like the old proverbial bucket of warm piss. Why would anyone want to tie themselves entirely to someone else’s political fortunes?

I honestly think the Cheney/Biden profile - party elder statesman with likely no future political ambition is the smarter play. Of course, not sure how well that works when your nominee would be the oldest person ever to take the oath of office - which brings us back to the whole 1 term thing.

I think Biden is unlikely to run in 2024 which is why I think the VP matters a lot here.

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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:33:20pm

re: #330 aatharuv

He actually called for checks to be given to every person (and not companies) to solve the immediate issues, and figure out how to claw it back from those who didn’t need it later. He seems to be pragmatic enough in an emergency at least on economic issues.

Justin Amash tweet stream.

Universal basic income has actually had support from people across the political spectrum. MLK was for it, so was Milton Friedman. Friedman wanted to structure it as a negative income tax (if I remember correctly). Some libertarian types think it can/should replace welfare programs like unemployment insurance and food stamps.

I’ve recently come around on it, in part because I think AI is going to drastically change our economy in the next decade or two and we need a plan for when everyone doesn’t “need” to work. I also think it might make recessions less bad because people would still have some income.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:34:11pm

re: #329 KGxvi

I still don’t get why anyone who thinks they have a political future would want to be VP. Unless Biden flat out tells them that he’s not running for re-election in 2024, it still seems like the old proverbial bucket of warm piss. Why would anyone want to tie themselves entirely to someone else’s political fortunes?

Old logic doesn’t apply here is the gentlest way I can put it. We’re in an existential crisis, our basic health and safety is in the hands of a death cult and I’m fairly certain that all of the qualified candidates would feel honored to fill that roll if asked.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:35:43pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:36:04pm

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Decatur Deb  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:36:19pm

And my best friend, my doctor, won’t even say what it is I’ve got.

Nina Simone ”Just Like Tom Thumb’s Blues”

I got nuthin’.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:37:06pm
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Interesting Times  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:37:52pm

Yet another reason to cancel those rancid garbage “press briefings”:

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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:37:57pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:37:58pm

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:38:05pm

re: #277 BigPapa

So I’m set up at home to work. Due to a comedy of errors, I ended up with a 55” Sony 4k as my monitor. At work I have 3 x 28” 1080 panels. This is.. interesting.

I have a 43” 4k tv. To me, it was the largest size I could see sitting close, but the front is a little smaller than I run on my monitors at work. A 55 might be big enough to overcome that. It is nice, though, a 43 is essentially 4 21 inch monitors with no edges.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:40:16pm
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Kilroy was here  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:41:30pm

re: #342 Belafon

I have a 43” 4k tv. To me, it was the largest size I could see sitting close, but the front is a little smaller than I run on my monitors at work. A 55 might be big enough to overcome that. It is nice, though, a 43 is essentially 4 21 inch monitors with no edges.

And if you have a 21” in portrait mode it is about the same height… great for surfing on.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:42:04pm

re: #318 Disloyal Archangel

Your feel-good doggie clip of the day

@RexChapman
This good girl was excited to watch herself win the agility championship.

Dogs, bruh…💪🐶😍💨❤️😏

Sorry, hate being that guy, but I’m gonna need to see that dogs reation when the ohter dogs are running the course.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:45:19pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:46:13pm

re: #343 gocart mozart

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Trump is the one who talked about airplanes in the Revolutionary war. His cult can stfu about Biden having dementia.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:46:25pm

re: #339 Interesting Times

A very important lesson.

The human brain is programmable.

Repeated exposure to propaganda works.

It takes a great deal of effort to be scrupulously analytical with every claim/audio/video that comes your way.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:47:10pm

re: #334 goddamnedfrank

Old logic doesn’t apply here is the gentlest way I can put it. We’re in an existential crisis, our basic health and safety is in the hands of a death cult and I’m fairly certain that all of the qualified candidates would feel honored to fill that roll if asked.

Exactly

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:48:35pm
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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:48:45pm

re: #346 goddamnedfrank

I don’t need to go back to work because I can do better someplace else

Isn’t the whole point of the employee side of capitalism being able to do better someplace else? I don’t think I ever had a time when I was not working for myself or my family where I didn’t always have an eye on what the job market was doing in case I had a chance to do better someplace else.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:49:32pm

re: #335 Charles Johnson

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Gah, fix ya makeup, old man.

He is just fucking grotesque.

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:50:21pm

re: #348 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

A very important lesson.

The human brain is programmable.

Repeated exposure to propaganda works.

It takes a great deal of effort to be scrupulously analytical with every claim/audio/video that comes your way.

My wife grew up in a family of Republicans, all of her brothers have drunk the Trump koolaid. The difference? I refuse to allow FOX’s toxic garbage to be on any TV in my house, ever. I did not have to convince my wife to become anti-Trump, she came to it all her own because she wasn’t constantly being brainwashed.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:51:03pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:51:37pm

re: #328 Dread Pirate

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For the people in that thread that want to talk about per capita numbers, New York has approaching half the number of cases that Italy has, but 1/3 the total population. If my math is right, it’s 1,556.7 cases per million people vs. 1,230 per million in Italy (per World-o-meters). Our infection rates in comparable circumstances suck. And it would be surprising if New York doesn’t see a spike in mortality rates.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:51:59pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb

And my best friend, my doctor, won’t even say what it is I’ve got.

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I got nuthin’.

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Virtual hug at social distancing length. Great to see you post again. Don’t be a stranger.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:52:01pm
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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:53:44pm

re: #352 makeitstop

Gah, fix ya makeup, old man.

He is just fucking grotesque.

I’m not sure who is worse. Trump or the maggots who enable this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:54:16pm

I’m sure his friends and family will say they are completely surprised

According to officials, Mr. Wilson had expressed racist and anti-government sentiments. He had been under F.B.I. scrutiny since September, and the authorities said that at one point he had considered attacking multiple targets, including a school with a large number of black students, as well as a mosque and a synagogue.

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EPR-radar  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:54:23pm

re: #357 Dread Pirate

Trump never was accepted by NYC old money types, which I suspect is one of the main reasons he’s going out of his way to fuck things up right now.

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EPR-radar  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:54:56pm

re: #358 Mescalero09

I’m not sure who is worse. Trump or the maggots who enable this.

Definitely the maggots, because they are the true source of his power.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:55:57pm

Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak

The Trump administration cut staff by more than two-thirds at a key U.S. public health agency operating inside China, as part of a larger rollback of U.S.-funded health and science experts on the ground there leading up to the coronavirus outbreak, Reuters has learned.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:56:06pm

re: #359 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

But the brown people are the real threat.

//

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EPR-radar  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:56:22pm

re: #359 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Ah. The completely inevitable stories of stochastic terrorism by generic Republicans in response to this crisis have begun.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:56:25pm

re: #358 Mescalero09

Divvying them up is like being more mad at stage 3 syphilis than stage 1 syphilis.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:57:03pm

re: #346 goddamnedfrank

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Good dog…there are already requirements that people have to try to get a new job in order to continue to qualify for UE benefits.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 3:58:04pm

...

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:01:54pm

Colorado’s stay-at-home order in effect until 11 April. Easter is 12 April.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:02:49pm

re: #367 goddamnedfrank

deleted that because I edited myself into saying the opposite of what I meant which is always a sign to step back

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:03:04pm

Here we go…won’t be the last chain to stop rent payments…

la.eater.com

The Cheesecake Factory, one of the most popular sit-down restaurant chains in the country, says it will not be able to make upcoming rent payments for any of its storefronts on April 1 because of significant loss of income due to the coronavirus crisis.

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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:03:07pm

Just touched base with a friend of mine. He works at a Penske fuel/mechanic shop on I-80 in Pa. Big lease shop, rentals, day and road stuff. All kinds of people from all over come there.
Bunky Big Rig territory. They have to be there. He’s a pump jockey, truck wash guy. Single dad. Hard worker. One of the pieces that make it go. They are not allowing anyone into the building for any reason. Period. But he’s at the pumps telling drivers to stay in their cabs, use your own pen.
I thanked him.
I’m going to thank quite a number of people as I go forward.
Thank goodness I’m no longer in a rig. I’d be nuts.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:06:56pm

Whoever is writing the online NBC headlines no longer cares about coddling the Trumpers, as seen by headlines the past couple of days. And now:

Trump’s Bible teacher says gays among those to blame for COVID-19

In a blog post titled “Is God Judging America Today?” a pastor who leads a weekly bible study group for President Donald Trump and members of his Cabinet blamed the coronavirus pandemic on several groups, including those who have “a proclivity toward lesbianism and homosexuality.”

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:07:56pm

re: #370 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here we go…won’t be the last chain to stop rent payments…

la.eater.com

The Cheesecake Factory, one of the most popular sit-down restaurant chains in the country, says it will not be able to make upcoming rent payments for any of its storefronts on April 1 because of significant loss of income due to the coronavirus crisis.

Cheesecake factory is big enough they can do this. Hopefully smaller places will be allowed the same treatment

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:07:57pm

re: #364 EPR-radar

Ah. The completely inevitable stories of stochastic terrorism by generic Republicans in response to this crisis have begun.

Well, to fair to the racist psychopath, he had begun his his planning before the current crisis

//

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:08:39pm

The coronavirus isn’t mutating quickly, suggesting a vaccine would offer lasting protection, WaPo

The virus doesn’t appear to be mutating rapidly, researchers say, which means a vaccine — when it comes — could be long-lasting. Scientists say it has looked the same almost everywhere it has appeared, and there’s no indication that certain strains are deadlier than others.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:09:17pm

re: #374 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Well, to fair to the racist psychopath, he had begun his his planning before the current crisis

//

Maybe he paid attention to the intelligence briefings Trump was supposed to receive.

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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:09:20pm

re: #370 Joe Bacon 🌹

Here we go…won’t be the last chain to stop rent payments…

la.eater.com

The Cheesecake Factory, one of the most popular sit-down restaurant chains in the country, says it will not be able to make upcoming rent payments for any of its storefronts on April 1 because of significant loss of income due to the coronavirus crisis.

There is some concern among those who work in commercial real estate that this could be bad:

Tom Barrack, the Los Angeles real estate tycoon, has a stark review of the commercial property market amid the coronavirus economic meltdown.

“On the brink of collapse.”

[snip]

“The economic impact, magnified by widespread total industry shutdowns throughout the American economy, could be exponentially worse than the economic effects of the 1987 crash, September 11th attacks and 2008 recession, combined. The long-term impact on the economy could be catastrophic.”

Rents stop coming, mortgages can’t be paid, foreclosures come… banks sitting on REO commercial properties is probably not particularly great for anyone (if our experience with them doing that on residential real estate after the ‘08 collapse is any indication).

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:12:24pm

re: #377 KGxvi

There is some concern among those who work in commercial real estate that this could be bad:

Rents stop coming, mortgages can’t be paid, foreclosures come… banks sitting on REO commercial properties is probably not particularly great for anyone (if our experience with them doing that on residential real estate after the ‘08 collapse is any indication).

It could be, but the owners need to think about long term. Would they rather be sitting on empty property, or places that just need to pull down their chairs when people are allowed back in? Lots of places are going to be hurting. They all need to get together and talk.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:12:50pm

re: #377 KGxvi

The old adage is that in a depression cash is king.

Commercial real estate (and residential too) will likely collapse. If you have cash, just wait around until the bottom hits, then go shopping.

If you don’t have cash - this is a problem. But if you don’t have cash then that is always a problem.

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plansbandc  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:14:16pm

re: #348 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I was talking with my mom about this very thing today. Fox News turned half my family into angry Republican bots.

It’s amazing how effective it is.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:14:27pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:15:08pm

re: #366 Mike Lamb

Good dog…there are already requirements that people have to try to get a new job in order to continue to qualify for UE benefits.

True in general… although they’re being waived for this emergency (don’t tell Lindsay, I’m sure he’d object to your failing to apply for jobs during a stay at home order.)

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Citizen K  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:15:09pm
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mmmirele  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:15:17pm

I’m just going to say that Dick Kovacevich is a real dick.

‘Some may even die, I don’t know’: Former Wells Fargo CEO wants people to go back to work and ‘see what happens’

businessinsider.com

(rant to follow)

SHTSMQs91wXd0kWmKG7KZwpa4lwaF8AnCvZl1HLfPDt0Puhm8Z8t7o+qfHT9O1j75wWATfE06WYYDU6o1Z1l78LncxQl4k1U0i2LUX728nqppP3fg7Ot9hhNiRnpq8MJgshJTjzXQfAXKYAvWnGdJ8M61wZWeiJ73bmu+iiM66vca9Zs7+vI3eF7NhIjxnygibYsXbGQT+YpmSKiLPNiolCoGdr+zBscJQ0kEZryxWt+P8m3MlfhAeXxbPnCqO759PQ+TrYRVxfbRAkMfjClEm130s7appLd5Ul9s1WFS9lWKbj2aAgXN03ZIKVR/ShOzI7HOMzno7YlLi8lvsBMW5yuroE9mSWS0psZFC4c1HvswTqqTOkhH3SIsOuKmrQ3htKBr35e8MzPm+FWaz5oqR2DwPXeawsSI8HwbWKKfNHqIEi94Uk67aiF0j3603lTg6dnLem3Asl3hqpSxg0u79HcPltAO2MYoighmV6nCVB+EpvbG8CHGxlXt2TSBqTeBauXLNKcvH26WmK/PZIzvlmj2ifc2xrHRcXE0veGOyPuYWu80a+oCfLbspa2ysSvBFXCw/CSg/Q=

And then he has the fucking balls to come out and say that people should risk their health, their lives and go back to work. No, Dick is a DICK.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:16:37pm

re: #381 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Oh gee. I cannot believe that if you know what a cassette is and how to use a pencil to wind it you are at risk. Everyone is at risk you fools.

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Citizen K  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:17:05pm

re: #384 mmmirele

I’m just going to say that Dick Kovacevich is a real dick.

businessinsider.com

(rant to follow)

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And then he has the fucking balls to come out and say that people should risk their health, their lives and go back to work. No, Dick is a DICK.

We are full up with Lord Farqaads right now.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:17:53pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:19:14pm

re: #387 The Pie Overlord!

They look delicious. I personally like the cheese one on the left. :)

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:19:42pm

re: #368 teleskiguy

Colorado’s stay-at-home order in effect until 11 April. Easter is 12 April.

The order here in Wisconsin is currently through April 24.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:19:44pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:21:24pm

‘Be prepared for another cycle’: Tense Dr Fauci warns coronavirus will come back as Trump says ‘it’s time’ to restart economy

The top health official in Donald Trump’s administration warns that the coronavirus spread in the US is likely to return once it subsides, following trends in countries that have gone through different phases of the outbreak.

As the southern hemisphere prepares for its winter season, Dr Anthony Fauci says “it will be inevitable” for the US to prepare for a second outbreak.

He says that the potentially cyclical nature of the virus stresses the need for a vaccine to be developed and tested quickly, as well as other drugs, so that there is a “menu of drugs” available to combat the virus.

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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:21:31pm

re: #378 Belafon

It could be, but the owners need to think about long term. Would they rather be sitting on empty property, or places that just need to pull down their chairs when people are allowed back in? Lots of places are going to be hurting. They all need to get together and talk.

The problem is what happens if the owners don’t have liquidity to cover their mortgage and other payments in the meantime? If the banks start foreclosing, the owners are fucked. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see banks evict non-paying tenants post foreclosure.

As #379 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus said, if you got cash on hand, this might be a good time to go shopping.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:21:52pm

re: #371 Mescalero09

Just touched base with a friend of mine. He works at a Penske fuel/mechanic shop on I-80 in Pa. Big lease shop, rentals, day and road stuff. All kinds of people from all over come there.
Bunky Big Rig territory. They have to be there. He’s a pump jockey, truck wash guy. Single dad. Hard worker. One of the pieces that make it go. They are not allowing anyone into the building for any reason. Period. But he’s at the pumps telling drivers to stay in their cabs, use your own pen.
I thanked him.
I’m going to thank quite a number of people as I go forward.
Thank goodness I’m no longer in a rig. I’d be nuts.

Ain’t that just the truth? I got snowed in at a truck stop once for 5 days and that was bad enough. That would be even worse.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:21:56pm

re: #387 The Pie Overlord!

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:22:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:22:49pm

That social distancing map by county someone posted to show which counties are practicing that better than others seems to have a flaw: Trips you take do not necessarily mean you are not distancing yourself.

I note that the Nebraska county map shows a grade of F in every county I-80 runs through. For example, it shows Sidney (in Cheyenne County, pop. 6,100) an F while it shows Scottsbluff (in Scott’s Bluff County, pop 14,000 plus Gering and Terrytown attached to it with another 6,000) with an A.

My county (Morrill, which borders Scott’s Bluff and Cheyenne) it gives a C.

If someone in Scottsbluff has to travel to the grocery store, they won’t have to travel more than a mile or two. If I have to travel to the grocery store, the nearest one is sixteen miles away (and if they’re closed, sixty miles away).

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:23:08pm

re: #381 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So, now people suddenly care about Gen Xers? Fuck that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:24:44pm

Cases edge up in Nebraska. Deaths remain at zero.

Total number of cases - 64

Cases that tested negative - 1,460*
*Numbers now include negative results from NPHL and commercial labs

Gov. Pete Ricketts (R) countered Trump’s narrative of “open it up by Easter,” saying we could be dealing with this for at least a year, in an official statement to the press posted on the government Website.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:25:29pm

This fear that people with a job lost to Covid19 might get too much money from a monthly unemployment check…

It makes sense if you believe that people have a fixed value, and some people just never deserve extra because they’re the wrong type. And subsequently giving them “too much” to The Wrong Kind Of Person is either immoral or impractical.

Which drags me back to one of my preferred talking points: conservatism believes in inherent hierarchy, but not any specific hierarchy or set of standards, just whatever pyramid schematic puts them at the top. We watch in real time as they experiment with different hierarchical arrangements, taste-testing pseudointellectual explanations, but they’re never going to pick one when “any that works in this moment, any other that works in the next moment” is available.

As of 48 hours ago, “Who Is A Valuable Person” has contracted…again…and we’re watching the float of a new, slimmer hierarchy model in which are identified new categories of Wrong Kinds Of People—the old, the immune compromised—who need to suffer and die to maintain the status quo.

Same behavior, different manifestation; the only thing that doesn’t change is the assumption that they’re Right (correct) and Right (moral) a priori. Power justifies itself.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:25:58pm
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plansbandc  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:26:16pm
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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:26:27pm

Trump: I’m doing a great job.
The statistics: 65,000+ infected; 925+ dead (over 1,000 dead by morning). The cases are doubling every 2-3 days, and the number dying is increasing exponentially as well.

This isn’t ending well. But Trump and his know nothings continue to act like he’s doing a tremendous job. He’s making Mike Brown look like a goddamned competent manager at FEMA.

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mmmirele  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:27:39pm

re: #395 lawhawk

Governor Ducey (R-AZ) is holding back on shutting down the state.

For example, golf courses are open, which is pissing off some mayors.

fox10phoenix.com

Also hair salons, which is inconceivable to me. I need a cut and style, but that’s just too close for comfort right now.

Doctors also started a petition to have Ducey shut down the state:

fox10phoenix.com

Maybe the way to get through that guy’s head is to point out that the state is unsafe for tourism if the coronavirus is raging. However, it’s probably going to take body bags coming out of a nursing home before he gets the hint.

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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:28:18pm

re: #393 William Lewis

You know you got to get the fuck out the truck when you dress nice, don’t smell like diesel and the kid behind the counter gives you the “Trucker Discount” without even asking.
I had that happen a few times.
All I could say was; “Is it that obvious?”
Must have been the crust around my glazed eyes……

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:29:59pm

re: #387 The Pie Overlord!

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Yum! 😋

In pursuit of our diligent efforts to support local eateries in the “lockdown” crisis* we finally managed to find (after only 16 months In our present neighborhood!) a satisfactory pizzeria: hideously expensive, but almost worth it: even by my personal standards (I.e. I hate pizza).

Baker’s Pizza on Avenue A for any interested Gothamites.

* OK, we order out a lot anyway, being lazy urbanites….

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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:30:18pm

re: #401 plansbandc

It doesn’t seem like a good decision if the quality of surrounding beer is any indication.

At least trade it for some good beer.

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mmmirele  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:30:47pm

Oh yeah, and in a blast from the past, Hickman Farms, one of Arizona’s largest egg producers, is going to house its leased convicts on its own property due to the coronavirus.

In an extraordinary move, the Arizona egg behemoth Hickman’s Family Farms is moving more than half of its inmate workforce out of prison and into company housing closer to its barns so that it can continue to use prison labor to produce eggs during the coronavirus pandemic.

Those workers are slated to be 139 women, longtime Hickman’s workers and minimum custody offenders who would otherwise be incarcerated at Perryville Women’s Prison in Goodyear, according to the Arizona Department of Corrections.

The Arizona Department of Corrections and Hickman’s decided that housing the women on-site was “necessary” during the pandemic “to control the potential spread of COVID-19 to thousands of other inmates,” ADC said in a news release Wednesday.

phoenixnewtimes.com

Yeah, I don’t care what they call it, it’s still indentured servitude and convict leasing in the name of cheap eggs for Arizona.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:32:30pm

re: #183 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

you lead from in front
you lead from the top

even though there’s no ‘enforcement’, the tone from the top is heard and understood.

witness the various states vs each other
and the entirely falling down on its face federal response

the trump admin is losing because they cant/wont take their eye off the politics of it

This.

I am no fan of Governor Ricketts’s political positions or economic policies, but he has been leading on this from the beginning.

He constantly asserts that all of Nebraska is in this together, and the state will suffer immensely if people here do not follow practical medical advice to flatten the curve (a term he uses in press releases and statements).

He’s given the regional public health districts the authority to go beyond what he has ordered if they deem necessary based on medical and scientific advice, hence the Panhandle on lockdown from even the rest of the state.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:33:14pm

re: #407 mmmirele

Oh yeah, and in a blast from the past, Hickman Farms, one of Arizona’s largest egg producers, is going to house its leased convicts on its own property due to the coronavirus.

phoenixnewtimes.com

Yeah, I don’t care what they call it, it’s still indentured servitude and convict leasing in the name of cheap eggs for Arizona.

It’s the part of the 13th amendment that needs to be removed.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:33:26pm

re: #407 mmmirele

Oh yeah, and in a blast from the past, Hickman Farms, one of Arizona’s largest egg producers, is going to house its leased convicts on its own property due to the coronavirus.

phoenixnewtimes.com

Yeah, I don’t care what they call it, it’s still indentured servitude and convict leasing in the name of cheap eggs for Arizona.

We really need to amend the 13th to close that evil loophole.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:33:51pm

re: #407 mmmirele

Oh yeah, and in a blast from the past, Hickman Farms, one of Arizona’s largest egg producers, is going to house its leased convicts on its own property due to the coronavirus.

phoenixnewtimes.com

Yeah, I don’t care what they call it, it’s still indentured servitude and convict leasing in the name of cheap eggs for Arizona.

It’s slavery. America never stopped being a slave state. They just called it something different.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:34:24pm

re: #405 Jay C

I’m not that worried about the places that are traditionally takeout - pizza joints should do well. It’s the other restaurants, the ones that never really supported takeout/delivery in the first place. And all the places that only did takeout as a side gig.

We have a ton of great restaurants that fall into that group, and we’ll do our part to help them out best we can, but we do want to make our own food too - so we’ll order in 1-2x a week to mix things up a bit and give some variety.

Here in NJ, I’d steer you to a couple of great thin crust joints: Kinchley’s tavern in Ramsey; S Egedio in Ridgewood, A Mano in Ridgewood, and Nelly’s in Waldwick.

I haven’t tried Bogie’s Hogie’s pizzas (in Hawthorne), but their hoagies are among the best you’ll have anywhere, and their pizza offerings started up earlier this year.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:34:59pm

re: #392 KGxvi

The problem is what happens if the owners don’t have liquidity to cover their mortgage and other payments in the meantime? If the banks start foreclosing, the owners are fucked. And I wouldn’t be surprised to see banks evict non-paying tenants post foreclosure.

As #379 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus said, if you got cash on hand, this might be a good time to go shopping.

There’s going to have to be discussions all the way up the chain.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:35:16pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:35:49pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:36:13pm

re: #384 mmmirele

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:36:22pm

re: #199 PhillyPretzel

Maybe I should do that. It sounds like it would give me a little bit of joy. :)

This postcard? It’s a real thing? I haven’t gotten today’s mail yet.

I’m going to get fired as Public Information Officer in my town for countering this on the town trap line, I can see it coming.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:37:31pm

re: #390 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The contrast between his bright tangerine makeup and the ghostly-white ears and eyes is really getting to be unnerving.

That’s what I was saying earlier.

Are people honestly too scared of him to tell him he looks like a fucking clown?

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:38:59pm

re: #400 Dread Pirate

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Jeez! Dad Ignatius is 99, and he can still compose a cogent memorandum like that?

And generally right on: though sadly, he saves the big letdown for the last, where he makes the quite correct point that ”… strong management at the top is essential.” And what we have is Donald Trump…..

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:39:06pm

re: #417 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Yes it is real. If you would like I can dig mine out from the trash and take pics of it. Do you want me to do that?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:41:32pm

re: #387 The Pie Overlord!

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Dean Martin - That’s Amore

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:42:59pm

re: #421 Joe Bacon 🌹

Thanks. :)

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:43:03pm

re: #414 gocart mozart

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Twitter’s features have gotten so complex they’re kind of unusable. I click on these, and it says they’re not available.

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plansbandc  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:45:04pm

We got the postcard today.

Gave my mom the PG rated rant about the fat orange tyrant. I only used one naughty word. I know, it’s hard to believe, but totally true.

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garzooma  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:45:46pm

A friend posted a site on Facebook pointing to a site that shows Coronavirus rates (cases & deaths) plotted by time for different states (which you can choose).

The developer’s site is at:

https://public.tableau.com/profile/marc.psaila#!/

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:45:49pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:46:08pm

I’m stealing this from John Bolton, cause I’m not giving him more clicks

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:48:37pm
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KGxvi  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:49:04pm

re: #427 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I feel like Superman should be smiling and Batman scowling. But that’s just me.

Also, why does Superman have such a short torso?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:49:10pm

re: #300 jaunte

Just got a bank statement in the mail today; Treasury just this past month put through a check I wrote to them back on October 31st. They’re not super quick.

I do not have a direct deposit set up with the IRS, because I make too little to pay taxes. This is designed to fuque the poor.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:51:14pm

re: #430 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Do you want the pictures of the post card?

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:51:45pm

re: #427 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m stealing this from John Bolton, cause I’m not giving him more clicks

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That explains it, we’re in the Marvel-DC crossover universe.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:52:44pm

Hey, Twitter does something right.

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:53:11pm

re: #429 KGxvi

Also, why does Superman have such a short torso?

Different gravity on Krypton?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:53:29pm

re: #323 goddamnedfrank

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people trying to apply in Ohio by phone … nobody answers

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:54:59pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:55:35pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:55:40pm
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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:56:07pm

My oldest boy has seen Cody Jinks a number of times and says he’s a great act to catch.
I had my faves back in the day. I think Cody has it. And he doesn’t give a rats ass either.
Take care.

Cody Jinks “Hippies and Cowboys”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:57:37pm

A sacrifice the bosses are willing to make.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:58:55pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 25, 2020 • 4:59:01pm

re: #397 lawhawk

So, now people suddenly care about Gen Xers? Fuck that.

No one cares about us ; nor do they notice that we exist. We like it that way.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:00:42pm
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Renaissance_Man  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:01:12pm

re: #418 makeitstop

That’s what I was saying earlier.

Are people honestly too scared of him to tell him he looks like a fucking clown?

The deference paid to Donald fucking Trump, of all people, is the most revolting and surprising part. I’ve thought about this a lot.

Donald Trump is not a charismatic or powerful man. He is not charming, likable, or even menacing in the style of a mob boss. He is buffoonish, cowardly, and pathetically needy. It is blindly obvious to any objective viewer that he is little more than a weak, narcissistic bully. Yet people with much more education, much more gravitas, cower in fear rather than cross him, contort themselves and sell their souls out of loyalty to a man that is incapable of even being aware of it, much less returning it.

The reason, as far as I can tell, is that they instinctively defer not to Donald Trump the man, but to what Donald Trump actually is - the avatar of white selfishness and greed. He is the blank slate upon which all of the worst impulses that American conservatism dreams of are writ large - loud, crass, hateful and on TV every day. They defer to that because it is the same thing that exists at their own core, that they wish they could be all the time if not for the thin veneer of civilisation that has been imposed upon them. And all of American culture strains as this man demonstrates what is at the core of a sizable plurality of white Americans, and they try mightily to insist that it is righteous, just as it has always been.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:01:50pm

re: #443 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Oh how I HATE #LeningradLindsay

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:02:42pm

re: #445 Joe Bacon 🌹

So do I.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:03:29pm

re: #436 gocart mozart

Learn stats people!

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Jay C  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:04:13pm

re: #441 gocart mozart

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Heh. LOL.

These guys take the blandest sort of Department-of-Health hygiene boilerplate and turn it into an entertaining anthem. Uganda? So yet another country dealing better with the coronavirus than we are?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:05:01pm

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:05:25pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:08:24pm

re: #449 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:08:52pm

re: #350 Patricia Kayden

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Mr BWS makes well over $75k.
When he was laid off late last year, his unemployment was about $400/week ($1600/mo) before taxes.
Where are people making $75k getting $2400/mo?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:11:19pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb

Hey you!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:12:21pm

re: #407 mmmirele

Oh yeah, and in a blast from the past, Hickman Farms, one of Arizona’s largest egg producers, is going to house its leased convicts on its own property due to the coronavirus.

phoenixnewtimes.com

Yeah, I don’t care what they call it, it’s still indentured servitude and convict leasing in the name of cheap eggs for Arizona.

AKA Slave labor.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:12:57pm

re: #439 Mescalero09

Some good music. Almost a cross between Jackson Browne and Hank Jr’s better moments. A touch of Willie too.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:15:12pm

re: #86 Targetpractice

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So it’s like a farm subsidy?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:15:43pm

Republicans couldn’t make a better case for a higher minimum wage by arguing that $400 a week is too much.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:16:09pm

re: #329 KGxvi

I still don’t get why anyone who thinks they have a political future would want to be VP. Unless Biden flat out tells them that he’s not running for re-election in 2024, it still seems like the old proverbial bucket of warm piss. Why would anyone want to tie themselves entirely to someone else’s political fortunes?

I honestly think the Cheney/Biden profile - party elder statesman with likely no future political ambition is the smarter play. Of course, not sure how well that works when your nominee would be the oldest person ever to take the oath of office - which brings us back to the whole 1 term thing.

Biden already said he would not run for reëlection when he first announced. Originally that turned me off toward him, but in his case I now see it as potential to bring up a younger vibrant Democrat in 2024.

Plus, vice-Presidents have been elected President before.

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Mescalero09  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:18:53pm

Goodnight all.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:20:04pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:20:35pm

re: #368 teleskiguy

Colorado’s stay-at-home order in effect until 11 April. Easter is 12 April.

Ours is until April 15th. 21 days. Have already see some gal in tyvec overalls, gloves, full face shield and filter mask buying, drum roll please, 6 cartons of cigarettes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:21:15pm

re: #458 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Biden already said he would not run for reëlection when he first announced. Originally that turned me off toward him, but in his case I now see it as potential to bring up a younger vibrant Democrat in 2024.

Plus, vice-Presidents have been elected President before.

Bush 41 and Nixon both served as VP and subsequently became President. And then there are the 8 VP’s who because President after the death of the President.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:21:48pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:23:03pm

re: #417 Anymouse 🌹🏡

This postcard? It’s a real thing? I haven’t gotten today’s mail yet.

I’m going to get fired as Public Information Officer in my town for countering this on the town trap line, I can see it coming.

How are your papers these days? Still all for trump? What are the letters to the editor saying? I’m curious.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:24:15pm

re: #419 Jay C

Jeez! Dad Ignatius is 99, and he can still compose a cogent memorandum like that?

And generally right on: though sadly, he saves the big letdown for the last, where he makes the quite correct point that ”… strong management at the top is essential.” And what we have is Donald Trump…..

The biggest thing missing is Competence. I almost responded with that but, wh? Good letter. Really shitty current government.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:25:47pm

re: #423 Belafon

Twitter’s features have gotten so complex they’re kind of unusable. I click on these, and it says they’re not available.

I get that a lot lately. I close and reopen Safari and that will work for a while. Until it doesn’t.

Click on the person’s name in the tweet. That always works.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:26:02pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb

And my best friend, my doctor, won’t even say what it is I’ve got.

I got nuthin’.

[[[ DEB ]]] (I don’t think that’s ten feet, but you get the idea)

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:26:57pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:28:12pm

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:29:51pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, according to that declaration, the pandemic began on January 20.

January 20, 2017 maybe.
//

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:30:39pm

re: #366 Mike Lamb

Good dog…there are already requirements that people have to try to get a new job in order to continue to qualify for UE benefits.

Governor Ricketts has suspended that requirement in Nebraska for ninety days, to be reviewed then if necessary.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:31:23pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:31:39pm

Minnesota officially declared a stay at home advisory for two weeks. The governor, Tim Walz, gave an excellent presentation on our plan and the gap that we’re facing. It’ll be interesting to see if we can meet the projections and face the full fury of this thing head on.

Evening Lizardim from the rainy and cold wild north country.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:32:00pm
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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:33:18pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:33:43pm

re: #431 PhillyPretzel

Do you want the pictures of the post card?

Both sides, please.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:33:53pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:33:54pm

re: #372 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Whoever is writing the online NBC headlines no longer cares about coddling the Trumpers, as seen by headlines the past couple of days. And now:

Trump’s Bible teacher says gays among those to blame for COVID-19

Further down the article, LGBT aren’t the only ones getting Christian wrath.

also laid blame on people with “depraved minds,” environmentalists and those who deny the existence of God.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:38:01pm

re: #377 KGxvi

Tom Barrack is one of Trump’s friends trying to push for a massive business bailout at the expense of the poor.

Wonkette has a couple years worth of articles on that guy.

startpage.com (Goes to the Ixquick search engine with lists of Wonkette articles about Tom Barrack)

Barrack was also chair of Trump’s inauguration committee, so I imagine he got his skim out of that.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:38:50pm

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:40:14pm

re: #475 jaunte

It wasn’t a failure of the intel community.

It was Trump’s failure and his alone. He surrounded himself with know nothings who were incompetent and unqualified to do the job. He didn’t take the warnings seriously, and still doesn’t take the situation seriously.

Even as we push to 1,000 dead from this disease, he’s acting like it all goes away in a few weeks and he can get back to doing rallies and profiting from his golf and hotel businesses that are currently shuttered across the nation thanks to state/local actions.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:46:19pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:46:47pm

re: #461 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Ours is until April 15th. 21 days. Have already see some gal in tyvec overalls, gloves, full face shield and filter mask buying, drum roll please, 6 cartons of cigarettes.

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I’m on board for that. No more menthol for me.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:48:47pm

Street-level politkn’ has gone to shit, even in 19th Cent Alabama. Hanging around the Gathering of the Scattered while we figure out how to register voters with waldos.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:49:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:52:27pm

re: #414 gocart mozart

Both of those are gone.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:53:31pm

re: #462 Hecuba’s daughter

Bush 41 and Nixon both served as VP and subsequently became President. And then there are the 8 VP’s who because President after the death of the President.

What being a VP does is make you a frontrunner for the party nomination. In fact every VP who has ran for president in the past 88 years has gotten the nomination.
Biden
Gore
Bush Sr
Mondale
Humphry
LBJ*
Nixon
Truman*
* became president due to death but that is a stronger argument for being VP

Those who didn’t run:
Cheney (old war criminal with 5 heart attacks)
Quayle (Dumbass) **
Rockefeller (I think he ran in 68 before he was Ford’s VP)
Agnew (indicted)
and
Alben W. Barkley (whatever happened to him?)

** Quayle considered running in 1996 but nobody cared so he decided not to

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Dave In Austin  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:54:37pm

What’s the avg cost of cremation in the US?
$1300?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:55:04pm

re: #481 lawhawk

It wasn’t a failure of the intel community.

It was Trump’s failure and his alone. He surrounded himself with know nothings who were incompetent and unqualified to do the job. He didn’t take the warnings seriously, and still doesn’t take the situation seriously.

Even as we push to 1,000 dead from this disease, he’s acting like it all goes away in a few weeks and he can get back to doing rallies and profiting from his golf and hotel businesses that are currently shuttered across the nation thanks to state/local actions.

It was also the failure of the Republican Party. None of them would remove him from office when they had the chance, and at the federal level virtually every one of them supports what he says, or makes suggestions that people have to die on the altar of capitalism.

The whole ideology of conservatism and the party that supports it is rotten to the core.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:56:02pm

re: #488 Dave In Austin

I read recently it was around $3,000.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 5:56:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:01:16pm

The Nebraska Unicameral was suspended due to the coronavirus outbreak. Senators were called back into special session to deal with a specific emergency funding bill to deal with the crisis here.

Senators pass emergency funding for pandemic relief (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

With a unanimous 45-0 vote on Wednesday afternoon, Nebraska state senators approved $83.6 million in emergency funding to help battle the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic in the state.

District 48 State Senator John Stinner of Gering, who sponsored the legislation, said the Legislature added another $25 million in unobligated funds to the bill, to be held in reserve for any unforeseen expenses. If unused, they would be returned to the state’s Cash Reserve Fund.

“It’s a significant number,” Stinner said. “A lot of people are concerned about getting the appropriate funding and also the equipment we need to fight this virus.”

(more)

The money is transferred from the state reserve fund to a special fund housed within the state’s military department.

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lawhawk  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:02:44pm

re: #491 Belafon

IIRC, Carter’s polling was doing just fine until after the Desert One rescue attempt failed, and then things dragged on. What’s the point where Trump’s ratings crash, if that’s even a thing now?

After all, Trump’s polling didn’t crater despite impeachment, the GOP coverup, or anything that came before or since. 9/11 rally effect helped Bush, but that wore off once thousands of Americans died in Iraq and no end in sight.

What’s the equivalent here? Thousands dead from covid19? I’m not sure even that will be the turning point. We’re at 1,000 (or will be by morning). With the current trends, we’ll be at the 9/11 death toll in just a few weeks, unless a bunch of nursing homes and retirement communities get it (oh, one in NJ just did), in which case it comes sooner.

There’s no flattening of the curve here, because there’s no nationwide effort to do so. States are doing it haphazardly, and some just aren’t taking it seriously (compare TN to KY for a direct comparison side by side). Effective leadership has consequences, but the GOP doesn’t care. They’re all in on the Trumpists, as if this is the End Times they’re looking for. Fuck them all with a rusty pitchfork sideways.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:04:31pm

re: #490 jaunte

I read recently it was around $3,000.

I see billboards in MI for $999.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:05:47pm

re: #488 Dave In Austin

What’s the avg cost of cremation in the US?
$1300?

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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:13:29pm

re: #493 lawhawk

IIRC, Carter’s polling was doing just fine until after the Desert One rescue attempt failed, and then things dragged on. What’s the point where Trump’s ratings crash, if that’s even a thing now?

Let’s give Ted Koppel some credit for Carter’s polling being so hideous. “America Held Hostage, Day xx” was an hour every night, on ABC, back when all of television was 6 channels in the biggest cities (and less than that everywhere else)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 6:23:36pm

re: #488 Dave In Austin

What’s the avg cost of cremation in the US?
$1300?

re: #490 jaunte

I read recently it was around $3,000.

re: #494 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I see billboards in MI for $999.

I had a cremation done, and remains shipped across the country along with all pickup from the morgue & multiple certified death certificates for $865 a year ago (54 weeks to be exact). In Fort Lauderdale FL

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:59:40am

re: #381 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Always had a pencil in the glove box of the car for just such an occasion.


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