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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:47:28pm

Oh if only The Doctor could shut Trump’s mouth with her Sonic Screwdriver…

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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:52:00pm

It’s like he as a PhD in Incompetence.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:56:26pm

re: #2 Dread Pirate

Why didn’t they have some foresight and ask for this 3-4 months ago?

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gwangung  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:57:33pm

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

Why didn’t they have some foresight and ask for this 3-4 months ago?

Isn’t there a thing called the Defense Production Act that can have Americans do it for themselves?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:58:03pm

SARS is an airborne virus that is more lethal than Covid-19. In 2003, there were 8096 cases and 774 deaths, in 29 countries. How did they manage to bring it under control and prevent it from becoming a pandemic?

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Cheechako  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:58:28pm

re: #2 Dread Pirate

Well, Mr Fuck-up President, if we had some friends around the world we might have gotten some.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:58:34pm

re: #4 gwangung

The problem is, it requires leadership from an actual president.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:58:43pm

So is the Senate still tied at 47 Democrats to 47 Republicans?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 7:59:54pm

re: #6 Cheechako

Well, Mr Fuck-up President, if we had some friends around the world we might have gotten some.

Don’t these other nations need the supplies too? Isn’t the problem that there is not enough equipment worldwide?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:00:18pm

re: #5 Hecuba’s daughter

Preparation?

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:02:21pm

re: #5 Hecuba’s daughter

According to [Dr. Christine Kreuder Johnson, a UC Davis professor of epidemiology and ecosystem health and researcher on USAID’s Emerging Pandemic Threats PREDICT project.]

“…contact tracing — or monitoring people in close contact with those who contracted it — was really effective with SARS, largely because symptoms were severe and therefore easier to identify and contain.

In addition, Schleiss said the SARS virus didn’t have the “fitness to persist in the human population,” which eventually led to its demise.

Schleiss added this doesn’t seem to be the case with COVID-19, which seems to be able to spread and thrive in the human body.”
healthline.com

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:03:25pm

re: #4 gwangung

Trump can’t guarantee that the right people will make a big profit.

Plus SOCIALISM!!!1!1!

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:04:39pm

re: #2 Dread Pirate

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It’s like he as a PhD in Incompetence.

He has a PhD, an MD, an LLD, and an MBA in competence. He has the most competence ever. The best competence. Everyone says so.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:04:52pm

re: #10 Ace Rothstein

Preparation?

Our country may currently have morons in leadership — but what about the rest of the world? What failed between then and now? Or is it that this disease is more insidious — that it spread faster and more quickly before it was detected? I didn’t think that we played a major role in suppressing SARS, but maybe I’m mistaken.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:05:39pm

re: #3 Ace Rothstein

Why didn’t they have some foresight and ask for this 3-4 months ago?

This is the narcissist cycle writ large.

There’s a problem; ignore it because you’re great and it can’t really be a problem. And it’s someone else’s problem and will never cross into your territory. Resent anyone who suggests the problem is yours.

Don’t prepare. Minimize the problem. Rage at anyone pointing out the problem or the lack of planning, accuse them of being the problem, but also cover up by declaring that…actually, there was a plan and it’s okay.

Repeat that cycle until the problem is unavoidable, then start asking for help while not admitting you’re asking for help. Like…unreasonable amounts of help…and while being insistent that you didn’t screw up.

Then you get to the point where others jump in and solve the problem—and you declare you deserve all the credit.

Or if they can’t solve the problem in a timely, but also deferential manner, get angry and blame them for not being able to save you. Maybe spice things up by claiming that you had a better plan that got *ruined* by the meddling of others.

It’s not about stupidity, it’s existing in a state of mind where your own feelings are the only things that matter. Other people don’t matter unless they perform a function. Anybody that fails to serve their function is attacking you and merits a cruel response that’s “self defense.” Material threats aren’t “real” because of accurate evaluation of threat but because of big scary feelings…but any vague thing that triggers insecurity or uncertainty is an existential threat.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:06:37pm

Update: slept most of the day. Still feel worn out, and a slight cough is starting. Otherwise feeling lucky, since the hospitals near here are already full of REALLY sick people. Which I am not.

Hope to awaken tomorrow feeling rested, with a lower fever.

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EPR-radar  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:06:38pm

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

Our country may currently have morons in leadership — but what about the rest of the world? What failed between then and now? Or is it that this disease is more insidious — that it spread faster and more quickly before it was detected? I didn’t think that we played a major role in suppressing SARS, but maybe I’m mistaken.

SARS was more deadly, but less dangerous than covid19. Basically, SARS is pretty hard to catch for a respiratory disease.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:07:01pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:07:24pm

re: #11 jaunte

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

Posted my latest comment before seeing yours. Thank you for the explanation.

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makeitstop  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:08:07pm

Biden to Bernie: We’re done here. Go home, Bernie.

I like it. Biden isn’t going to waste an ad dollar or an hour of debate on Sanders, he’s going straight for the target.

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:08:45pm

re: #16 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Update: slept most of the day. Still feel worn out, and a slight cough is starting. Otherwise feeling lucky, since the hospitals near here are already full of REALLY sick people. Which I am not.

Hope to awaken tomorrow feeling rested, with a lower fever.

Just keep especially alert for difficulty breathing! But you know that… keep us posted!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:08:45pm

re: #5 Hecuba’s daughter

SARS is an airborne virus that is more lethal than Covid-19. In 2003, there were 8096 cases and 774 deaths, in 29 countries. How did they manage to bring it under control and prevent it from becoming a pandemic?

SARS doesn’t have an asymptomatic transmission period. They screened for fevers and stopped it that way.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:09:37pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:10:05pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:10:32pm

re: #16 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Update: slept most of the day. Still feel worn out, and a slight cough is starting. Otherwise feeling lucky, since the hospitals near here are already full of REALLY sick people. Which I am not.

Hope to awaken tomorrow feeling rested, with a lower fever.

How long have you felt like this?

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:10:46pm

re: #5 Hecuba’s daughter

SARS is an airborne virus that is more lethal than Covid-19. In 2003, there were 8096 cases and 774 deaths, in 29 countries. How did they manage to bring it under control and prevent it from becoming a pandemic?

More lethal, yes, but it quickly evolved out of it’s initial lethality, thank dog.We were just damn lucky in 2003. Covid seems to be much more stable. And, in the end, much more lethal.

Our housecleaner, a lovely immigrant from Spain, told us her mom died last night fromm Covid back in Spain.

Jesus wept.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:10:55pm

The new “Yellow Peril.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:14:29pm

re: #23 jaunte

Did anyone have Mexicans driving Americans away on their bingo cards? Because, really, if you do you just won.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:15:07pm

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

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The new “Yellow Peril.”

Tony Branco is another shitty cartoonist like Ben Garrison, but without the homoerotic Trump fetish.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:15:25pm

re: #26 austin_blue

More lethal, yes, but it quickly evolved out of it’s initial lethality, thank dog.We were just damn lucky in 2003. Covid seems to be much more stable. And, in the end, much more lethal.

Our housecleaner, a lovely immigrant from Spain, told us her mom died last night fromm Covid back in Spain.

Jesus wept.

I’m so sorry for her and her family.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:16:16pm
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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:17:07pm
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Jay C  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:18:41pm

re: #29 The Pie Overlord!

Tony Branco is another shitty cartoonist like Ben Garrison, but without the homoerotic Trump fetish.

The URL of “FlagAndCross-dot-com” is kind of a giveaway…

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ibob  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:19:00pm

Our office has been seeing only ob patients and emergency gyn patients since last week. We have just been calling in refill prescriptions for the other patients.

Our largest request is for Xanax or Ativan refills. Surprise!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:21:25pm

Dude flew home. No wonder social distancing isn’t working as well as our should. We’re, collectively, stupid. Our fucking Senate majority whip flew home. Short thread.

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plansbandc  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:25:41pm

So my mother said to me that I probably shouldn’t be saying anything bad about tRump on social media.

Oops.

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retired cynic  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:26:23pm

re: #36 plansbandc

Too late!

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:28:52pm

Amazon is owned by literally the richest man on the planet! He can afford to give all his employees a raise out of the cash that falls into his couch cushions!

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:31:10pm

re: #5 Hecuba’s daughter

SARS is an airborne virus that is more lethal than Covid-19. In 2003, there were 8096 cases and 774 deaths, in 29 countries. How did they manage to bring it under control and prevent it from becoming a pandemic?

The answer is that SARS is much more virulent and produces symptoms quicker, meaning that cases were easier to identify and isolate quickly. SARS also produced symptoms in most people who had it. Covid is more dangerous because it spreads more effectively with a long asymptomatic period, and many spreaders don’t even know they have it.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:31:17pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Amazon is owned by literally the richest man on the planet! He can afford to give all his employees a raise out of the cash that falls into his couch cushions!

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People are a commodity to them, not human beings.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:31:17pm

The Russian in question was in the United States.

The group marshaled stolen social media and financial accounts (why I won’t ever do on-line banking or bill pay), personally-identifiable information, &c.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:35:45pm

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

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The new “Yellow Peril.”

Man that’s near ultimate projection.

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:36:05pm

So, brass tacks:

Joe survives, Bernie dies;

Bernie lives, Joe dies;

They both live;

They both die;

Amy lives, her husband, presently on a respirator, dies;

They both live;

Trump dies, Pence lives

Pence lives, Trump dies;

They both die;

They both live; and

What becomes of our democracy in any of those scenarios?

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stpaulbear  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:40:17pm

re: #43 austin_blue

Throughout the full history of our democracy, people have lived until they died.

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:41:42pm

re: #44 stpaulbear

Throughout the full history of our democracy, people have lived until they died.

Clever, but not the question. I was serious.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:42:00pm

re: #16 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Update: slept most of the day. Still feel worn out, and a slight cough is starting. Otherwise feeling lucky, since the hospitals near here are already full of REALLY sick people. Which I am not.

Hope to awaken tomorrow feeling rested, with a lower fever.

Take care of yourself and keep us updated here.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:43:35pm
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LadyBehir  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:43:36pm

Even brassier tacks - what if Bernie, Biden, Pence, and Trump all die before the election? Before the nomination? How would that get handled on a legal/practical/realistic way?

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stpaulbear  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:43:37pm

re: #45 austin_blue

Clever, but not the question. I was serious.

So was I.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:44:09pm

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:45:14pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:45:38pm

re: #48 LadyBehir

Even brassier tacks - what if Bernie, Biden, Pence, and Trump all die before the election? Before the nomination? How would that get handled on a legal/practical/realistic way?

Slightly madhouse but the parties would adjust and probably forego the remaining primaries and decide on a candidate in their respective conventions.

(Edit: Oh, and probably Bernie would whine about this the whole way into the convention and still not got the nomination.)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:47:02pm

Lol

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VegasGolfer  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:47:40pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:48:17pm

re: #49 stpaulbear

The only reason this feels different than any of the other catastrophes in the history of the US is that we have the benefit of hindsight to know how those other catastophes worked out. When people woke up to the bombing of Pearl Harbor or the depression, they had to get through it moment to moment like we have to now.

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jamesfirecat  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:49:24pm

re: #39 Renaissance_Man

The answer is that SARS is much more virulent and produces symptoms quicker, meaning that cases were easier to identify and isolate quickly. SARS also produced symptoms in most people who had it. Covid is more dangerous because it spreads more effectively with a long asymptomatic period, and many spreaders don’t even know they have it.

The issue is that covid is effectively using the base (and it is the base strategy because it often works) from Plague Inc, high infectivity low severity, low lethality. The good news is that covid isn’t going to suddenly “evolve” into causing total organ failure, but the bad news is that it is going to remain painfully good at flying under the radar unless we are painfully paranoid.

Hey everyone I am safe and well as is my immediate family.

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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:50:39pm

re: #48 LadyBehir

Even brassier tacks - what if Bernie, Biden, Pence, and Trump all die before the election? Before the nomination? How would that get handled on a legal/practical/realistic way?

In some ways, that would be easiest. Pelosi becomes Madam President, the conventions choose candidates and the election goes forward.

No, the nightmare is Biden wins but dies before inauguration day. Then hell - probably literally- breaks loose because that’s when the Fascists make their move.

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jamesfirecat  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:50:52pm

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

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But didn’t Milo actually make money rather than just inheriting and declaring bankruptcy?

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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:54:57pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:56:08pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Amazon is owned by literally the richest man on the planet! He can afford to give all his employees a raise out of the cash that falls into his couch cushions!

For most people money is a medium of exchange—buying and selling goods and services, even the most luxurious and whimsical ones. But what we’re learning the hard way is that there are people who value money as a marker of power and accomplishment. So no matter how much money they have, they will always want more;their money hoard is their merit, the sign that they’re competent and good. Compared to buying fun things, that feeling of “my score is getting higher” is more important. Sure, they’ll give money…if they’re given deference, if they’re allowed to just allocate cash to the things they think are important, if they’re granted social and cultural capital. In turn, to these people all ideas that acknowledge importance external to earnings, or to suggest their money could be spent in ways that are better than massing it to keep score, are offensive, a complete inversion of their version of “what is true and good.”

Their base assumption is that they’re the best, that success with money is best measure of authority and competence, and they don’t want to hear otherwise. There’s this pattern of very wealthy people creating bubbles—thinktanks, paid-off experts, churches with bent theology—but the thing they have in common is that all the bubbles deny the validity of ways of assessing truth…other than “because a person with power said so.”

Science is good as long as science doesn’t assert something inconvenient, at which point it’s okay to create fake journals and fund frauds and hire politicians to subvert scientific consensus and the means of establishing scientific truth (testing, repetition of testing, and peer review). Religion is good, as long as it doesn’t demand self-examination or actual sacrifices (ones that sting, that cut deep)—and we can see what kind of theology they pay for.

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:59:22pm

re: #60 The Ghost of a Flea

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 8:59:37pm

re: #54 VegasGolfer

Thought I’d share

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I’m baking bread (boules). Tasty. We’ve got jam, honey, and butter. Remarkably easy. We are using a convection oven. You can do it!

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:00:10pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:01:08pm

Say what you will about Bernie, and I have, but this is great.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:01:09pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:01:14pm

re: #58 jamesfirecat

But didn’t Milo actually make money rather than just inheriting and declaring bankruptcy?

He made money for awhile but then he took a bath on Egyptian cotton and bombed his own people for the Nazis. So spot on as far as analogies go I say.

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:02:14pm

re: #58 jamesfirecat

But didn’t Milo actually make money rather than just inheriting and declaring bankruptcy?

“Everyone is in the syndicate, and everyon’e got a share!”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:03:06pm

re: #64 gocart mozart

Say what you will about Bernie, and I have, but this is great.

[Embedded content]

When he’s right, he’s right.

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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:03:43pm

re: #2 Dread Pirate

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It’s like he as a PhD in Incompetence.

For 3 years, he’s told us pretty much every day that the rest of the world is taking advantage of us. That we give and give and we’re not going to do that anymore because they’re not paying their share.

Now he wants them to help us?

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:06:15pm

re: #63 jaunte

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Maybe. If it’s liquid. Most billionaires are leveraged right up the ass. That’s why they are paper billionaires.

Like Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:07:17pm

Jesus, they made one last attempt to sneak the secrecy clause through hoping nobody would notice

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jaunte  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:07:20pm

re: #70 austin_blue

Fertitta is totally dependent on getting people together in crowds. He’s screwed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:07:55pm

re: #43 austin_blue

Playing the game..

Well, if Trump dies before the Republican convention, my guess is that Pence is not the nominee, though it’s unclear who would capture the majority.

As long as Joe is alive, he becomes the Democratic nominee, and if the fates smile on us, he becomes President.

If Trump and Pence both die soon (and we won’t be that lucky), Pelosi becomes President — Barr wouldn’t dare to intervene, no matter what crazy theories that ideologue Jack Goldsmith wants to push — but she won’t run for election.

The Democratic nightmare is if Joe dies and Bernie survives — Bernie Bros will insist that he gets the nomination.

Joe and Bernie both die — my guess is that Andrew Cuomo will capture the Democratic nomination.

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:12:28pm

re: #73 Hecuba’s daughter

Playing the game..

Well, if Trump dies before the Republican convention, my guess is that Pence is not the nominee, though it’s unclear who would capture the majority.

As long as Joe is alive, he becomes the Democratic nominee, and if the fates smile on us, he becomes President.

If Trump and Pence both die soon (and we won’t be that lucky), Pelosi becomes President — Barr wouldn’t dare to intervene, no matter what crazy theories that ideologue Jack Goldsmith wants to push — but she won’t run for election.

The Democratic nightmare is if Joe dies and Bernie survives — Bernie Bros will insist that he gets the nomination.

Joe and Bernie both die — my guess is that Andrew Cuomo will capture the Democratic nomination.

That’s a good comment on my question.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:12:33pm
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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:13:50pm

Woo hoo! With that last walk in, we’re up to 10% occupancy! Highest we’ve been in a week.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:14:19pm

Contains interactive map of cases in CT

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:14:28pm

re: #74 austin_blue

That’s a good comment on my question.

Instead of Cuomo capturing the nomination, I can see Warren doing that. She ran for President, Cuomo didnt.

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:14:41pm

re: #76 William Lewis

Woo hoo! With that last walk in, we’re up to 10% occupancy! Highest we’ve been in a week.

Where the hell are you?

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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:14:49pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

Amazon is owned by literally the richest man on the planet! He can afford to give all his employees a raise out of the cash that falls into his couch cushions!

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Amazon has 750,000 employees.

If Jeff were to give each of them 10,000 that would cost him less than 10% of his net worth.

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gocart mozart  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:15:23pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:15:36pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:15:49pm
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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:16:20pm

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Instead of Cuomo capturing the nomination, I can see Warren doing that. She ran for President, Cuomo didnt.

Yes, please proceed. I’m looking for what-ifs with that question.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:18:18pm

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Instead of Cuomo capturing the nomination, I can see Warren doing that. She ran for President, Cuomo didnt.

I was originally going to say that it would be a battle between Amy and Elizabeth — but then thought that the party could justifiably say that neither received sufficient support to claim the title. It would be a wide-open convention — and who is the Democrat who is getting the most TV time? Cuomo. In the year of the plague, the rules all change.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:18:28pm

Evening update from Nebraska. Notice no people on this list over seventy, and only one who is in her sixties.

Five additional COVID-19 cases were also identified in Nebraska. New cases include:

A woman in her 40s from Dodge County who is self-isolating at home.
A woman in her 60s from Washington County who is self-isolating at home. Contact investigations were completed in both of these cases and those identified as close contacts were notified. All identified close contacts will self-quarantine and be actively monitored twice daily by public health officials for fever and respiratory symptoms.
A woman in her 50s from Saunders County who is self-isolating at home and a close contact investigation is underway.
Two cases are Douglas County residents. One is a woman in her 30s. The other is a woman in her 40s and a close contact investigation is underway. For more information, go to douglascountyhealth.com .

The state total as of tonight is 68*. One case was removed from the state total due to the person residing in a different state.

All those cases are in the eastern part of the state. The Panhandle remains free of the epidemic.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:18:44pm

Local skiing hero got an electric guitar.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:19:09pm

It’s a good thing there is no vaccine then. They should be happy.

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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:19:10pm

re: #48 LadyBehir

Even brassier tacks - what if Bernie, Biden, Pence, and Trump all die before the election? Before the nomination? How would that get handled on a legal/practical/realistic way?

I don’t know what Republicans would do, but Democrats would nominate Andrew Cuomo.

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:19:14pm

re: #81 gocart mozart

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Lying motherfucker. It’s as loose as goose.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:20:24pm

re: #72 jaunte

He’s also an asshole.

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LadyBehir  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:22:28pm

I could see a Warren-Cuomo ticket. I have no idea what the Republicans would do.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:24:50pm

re: #69 sagehen

For 3 years, he’s told us pretty much every day that the rest of the world is taking advantage of us. That we give and give and we’re not going to do that anymore because they’re not paying their share.

Now he wants them to help us?

It makes sense because it’s not about actually helping.

Narcissists make unreasonable demands to test who’s compliant, specifically making it harder and harder to say “yes” because there’s no end point to their need for deference.

Trashing countries and them asking stuff of them is entirely in keeping with this pattern.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:33:19pm
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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:34:04pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:35:40pm

re: #92 LadyBehir

I could see a Warren-Cuomo ticket. I have no idea what the Republicans would do.

Cruz-Graham. You liked assholes so much the last election, and we have plenty to spare!

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:36:45pm
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William Lewis  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:38:52pm

re: #79 austin_blue

Where the hell are you?

Hayward WI ~ hour south of Superior 2 hours east of the Twin Cities.

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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:42:51pm

re: #93 The Ghost of a Flea

It makes sense because it’s not about actually helping.

Narcissists make unreasonable demands to test who’s compliant, specifically making it harder and harder to say “yes” because there’s no end point to their need for deference.

Trashing countries and them asking stuff of them is entirely in keeping with this pattern.

South Korea seems to have a pretty good handle on testing, gloves, masks and PPE’s. Maybe they’ll agree to send them only if he renews the defense pact… at the same price as last year and the year before.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:43:39pm

re: #82 teleskiguy

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One of my CERT training was on distributing emergency medicine, like in the case of an epidemic. One of the things we did learn was that if you are needing to do something in a hurry, then you ignore some things that you wouldn’t have under normal circumstances. Did the guy you just give medicine out to show up again? It doesn’t matter at the moment.

Maybe we can build in some ways to control for grafting, but you can’t in all cases. Our goal is to keep people in their houses, keep them fed, and keep the sick ones at home. You can’t control for everything right now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:43:54pm

Mass. only has ~1800 positive cases, with ~100 hospitalized.
They’re literally losing the war of attrition

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:44:50pm
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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:45:50pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:49:16pm

re: #81 gocart mozart

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Sure Señor Snort…the virus isn’t contained…unlike your daily kilo of cocaine…

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:50:27pm

The good:

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:51:45pm

This stupid asshole.

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:51:47pm

The sad:

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:52:01pm

The Maggie:

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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:54:24pm
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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:55:55pm
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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:58:51pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 9:59:34pm

re: #108 Belafon
(it’s supposed to be ratio, not ration, damn it)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:01:33pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:02:37pm

it’s like a mirror image

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:03:31pm

re: #98 William Lewis

Hayward WI ~ hour south of Superior 2 hours east of the Twin Cities.

Ah, squarely in the middle of Norwegian Bachelor Farmers. Fine dark Lutheran country.

Got it.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:03:36pm
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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:11:56pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:12:51pm
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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:18:24pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

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Matt Gaetz is a drunken stumblebum who has has no idea how Public Health and policy works.

Could someone please fuck him up the ass with a rusted pickaxe?

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Belafon  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:20:49pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:28:19pm

re: #107 Belafon

Fuck that last one hits in the feels.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:38:14pm

34 People Connected with One Arkansas Church Have Tested Positive for COVID-19

The First Assemblies of God Church in Greers Ferry, Arkansas says that 34 people connected with the ministry have tested positive for COVID-19.

All of them were in the building during a “recent children’s event,” though it’s not clear how recently that event took place. There is a post online, however, noting a children’s event at the church on March 6.

31 infected people are members or staffers.

Two are visiting evangelists.

One is a child.

Several others are awaiting their own test results.

Pastor Mark Palenske has seen the light (from Facebook):

… I would love to have you take this medical threat more seriously. Maybe you assumed that it couldn’t happen to you, just like I did. Please adhere to the social instructions that you are receiving locally and nationally. We must keep the affected population to as low a number as possible. Our singular act of stubborn independence can have far reaching effects on someone else’s life. [March 19]

… There was very little in my training for the ministry that covered the full measure of what our church family has dealt with in the past few weeks. The intensity of this virus has been underestimated by so many, and I continue to ask that each of you take it very seriously. An act of wisdom and restraint on your part can be the blessing that preserves the health of someone else. [March 22]

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austin_blue  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:38:29pm

I’ve been hooting up a Barred Owl for the last few minutes in the back yard.

We’ve had a conversation.

It flew down to a limb about 10’ from me. We hooted at each other. He just left for wherever the girls are.

It’s a wonderful thing to interact with nature, up close in an urban setting. Like magic.

I’m off to bed. See you all tomorrow. Be safe and healthy.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:40:40pm

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

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I’d like to take this moment to once again remind folks that Gaetz got kicked in the balls by a bartender for refusing to leave during a drunken argument.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:43:39pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:43:42pm

Thread.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:45:26pm

Over 1000 US dead.
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Dread Pirate  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:47:24pm

21 thousand is not enough thousands for him. Patience Matt, give it a few weeks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:47:42pm

At some point , when we have widespread systematic testing of communities for antibodies, we will probably find some factor or set of factors tnat accounts for the range of severity from asymptomatic to dead. We have tools now that we could barely imagine even 20 years ago.

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Targetpractice  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:47:49pm

re: #127 DodgerFan1988

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Over 1000 US dead.

Swear to fuck, all I’m hearing is climate change denials with the serial numbers filed off.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:52:43pm

Joel 0$teen letting his megachurch be used as an emergency hospital?

Why that would be so UnXtian!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 25, 2020 • 10:54:53pm

Am in a pissed off mood.

College buddy called to tell me one of my pals from college days died from Covid-19 tonight…he collapsed at work yesterday…rushed to ER and they immediately put him on a respirator…

FUCK YOU TRUMP! FUCK YOU TO HELL!

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:00:12pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:02:16pm
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sagehen  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:03:35pm
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Renaissance_Man  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:06:28pm

re: #132 Joe Bacon 🌹

Am in a pissed off mood.

College buddy called to tell me one of my pals from college days died from Covid-19 tonight…he collapsed at work yesterday…rushed to ER and they immediately put him on a respirator…

FUCK YOU TRUMP! FUCK YOU TO HELL!

Among the things I find very concerning about this disease is how quickly people go from healthy to critically ill and dying. SARS was like that too, but for a greater percentage of infected. This is worse, because most people are mild, but spread it farther, and those that do get very sick and die go very fast.

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teleskiguy  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:07:39pm
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:17:06pm

What - and I really mean this - the fuck!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:21:55pm
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 25, 2020 • 11:22:57pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 26, 2020 • 12:03:34am

re: #138 Ace-o-aces

What - and I really mean this - the fuck!

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Dr. Phil was also a football player, and literally one of the biggest losers in the history of the sport. He played linebacker on the 1968 Tulsa team that was defeated 100-6 by the University of Houston, the most one-sided major college game in history. Tulsa was the pre-game favorite. C&W singer Larry Gatlin also played in the game and scored Houston’s final, record-breaking touchdown.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 26, 2020 • 12:33:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 26, 2020 • 12:34:32am

re: #141 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Dr. Phil was also a football player, and literally one of the biggest losers in the history of the sport. He played linebacker on the 1968 Tulsa team that was defeated 100-6 by the University of Houston, the most one-sided major college game in history. Tulsa was the pre-game favorite. C&W singer Larry Gatlin also played in the game and scored Houston’s final, record-breaking touchdown.

How…..how does that even happen? Were they asleep? Were they all too busy flirting with the cheerleaders? Playing scrabble?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 26, 2020 • 12:42:39am

re: #143 Dr Lizardo

How…..how does that even happen? Were they asleep? Were they all too busy flirting with the cheerleaders? Playing scrabble?

Remembering the 1968 Tulsa-Houston game at the Astrodome, where TU lost 100-6
Turns out I had mis-remembered. Gatlin scored the NEXT to the last Houston touchdown (still a record at the time but very short lived).

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Dread Pirate  Mar 26, 2020 • 1:04:38am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 26, 2020 • 1:12:39am

“Exercise”
Looks like it’s hit the fan in Russia. (Petri Mäkelä is a highly regarded Finnish security analyst)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 26, 2020 • 1:19:36am

re: #132 Joe Bacon 🌹

Am in a pissed off mood.

College buddy called to tell me one of my pals from college days died from Covid-19 tonight…he collapsed at work yesterday…rushed to ER and they immediately put him on a respirator…

FUCK YOU TRUMP! FUCK YOU TO HELL!

I’m sorry to hear about your loss.

Revenge is coming on Election Day.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 26, 2020 • 1:32:14am

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Readiness exercise”. LOLOL, yeah, sure Jan Vlad.

You’re right - the shit’s hit the fan and the situation on the ground in Russia’s big metropolitan areas is likely far, far worse than the Kremlin is letting on. And with Russia’s cratering economy and its decrepit healthcare infrastructure, I’m thinking this is going to have one helluva impact.

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electrotek  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:00:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:06:59am

re: #5 Hecuba’s daughter

SARS is an airborne virus that is more lethal than Covid-19. In 2003, there were 8096 cases and 774 deaths, in 29 countries. How did they manage to bring it under control and prevent it from becoming a pandemic?

Because SARS was easy to test for: if you were infections, you had a fever and other symptoms, which could be checked at airports and ports of transit. The insidious thing about COVID is that you can be totally asymptomatic and still spread the disease.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:20:34am

God help us, the loonies are starting to come out of the woodwork.

A man suspected of plotting to blow up a Missouri hospital and was killed in a shootout with FBI agents was apparently frustrated with local government action to stop the spread of coronavirus, the FBI said Wednesday.

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FBI officials describe Wilson as a potentially violent extremist known to express racial and religious hatred and antigovernment sentiment. They say that while under surveillance, Wilson wanted to commit an act of terrorism, specifically a bombing, and had considered several targets, including a school with a large population of black students, a synagogue and a mosque.

But as the coronavirus pandemic began to take hold in the United States and local officials in Missouri issued stay-at-home orders, FBI officials said Wilson became aggravated.

“With the current health crisis, Wilson decided to accelerate his plan to use a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device in an attempt to cause severe harm and mass casualties,” the FBI said in a statement.

nbcnews.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:21:22am

Rate of spread is slowing in Germany: 38,600 cases (213 fatalities) as of today, on March 20th it was 19,850 (68). So taking over five days to double.

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:39:08am

Changes in my local nom store. A plexi screen in front of the cashier:

An idea for those of you working or having friends and/or family which work as cashiers.
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Greup  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:43:37am

re: #154 Teukka

Hornstull?

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:44:29am

re: #155 Greup

Hornstull?

sGnfymVSHNzCIAONbvstbQ==

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Greup  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:46:33am

re: #156 Teukka

The world is a small place… :)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:53:37am

Iran reports their highest daily new case numbers, and their highest daily new deaths.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 3:06:33am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 26, 2020 • 3:11:25am

Morning Lizard.

Idaho now has 123 confirmed case of CoVid-19 up from (iirc) 73 yesterday. My Town/ County (Twin Falls) is still at 1. Thus begins day 2 of the mandatory stay at home lock down. No deaths attributed to the virus………. Yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 3:14:11am

re: #159 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

and he will fire all the virologists who call him out on this…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 3:44:12am

So Grassley goes on the Senate floor and claims that mainstream media was calling SARS-Cov-2 the “Wuhan virus” before said media decided to attack Trump.

Which is a lie. From early on the disease was called “covid” after the various medical professionals used the term, and the virologists called it SARS-Cov-2 once it was determined to be of the same family of viruses that caused the original SARS.

The GOP is trying to do is create a false history to cover for Trump’s blatant trait of bigotry.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 3:48:27am

Spain reports 6,673 new cases, down from the high which was yesterday. New deaths of 442, the lowest in four days.

It will take several days to see if the quarantine in Spain has successfully reduced the influx of new cases, but at least its a step in the right direction.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 4:00:49am

re: #162 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So Grassley goes on the Senate floor and claims that mainstream media was calling SARS-Cov-2 the “Wuhan virus” before said media decided to attack Trump.

Which is why Trump was then forced to cross out “COVID” and write in “The Chinese Virus” in his speech…

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peguyjaures  Mar 26, 2020 • 4:01:58am

re: #5 Hecuba’s daughter

Well, in a large part *because* it was more lethal: killing your host is not very efficient if you are a virus… More lethality also means it was taken more seriously earlier on, and it was easier to notice the outbreaks. Also, SARS had a shorter incubation period and patient were not contagious during the incubation, so you only needed to isolated people showing symptoms, while Covid-19 has many asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic carriers…

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2020 • 4:02:42am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 4:03:44am

re: #165 peguyjaures

I recall them simply them simply placing a thermometer strip to the foreheads of people arriving at airports and train stations and isolating those with temperatures.

Not so simple with COVID.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 4:05:44am

Remember, in every market, when someone loses money someone else will make money, in this case a lot of money:

American hedge fund makes $2.6BILLION from placing a $27million bet 13 days ago that the coronavirus pandemic would cause a market crash

A US hedge fund made well over $2billion from a one-off bet that the coronavirus outbreak would cause a global market crash - and less than a week after its boss said ‘Hell is coming’.

Pershing Square Capital Management hedge fund manager Bill Ackman wrote on his company’s website his firm had made $2.6billion from an initial $27million outlay the pandemic would create market havoc.

The enormous return came barely a week after Ackman claimed ‘Hell is coming’ for US business.

His firm seized upon bond market turmoil during the Covid-19 crisis, in buying ‘credit protection on various global investment grade and high-yield credit indices’.

[…]

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 26, 2020 • 4:08:44am

Not good news from Detroit:

Confirmed COVID-19 cases are rising faster in Detroit than they were early on in the U.S. cities hardest hit by the outbreak, raising alarm over whether the city will see the same explosive spread as was seen in Seattle or New York.

On Tuesday, Detroit had recorded 574 cases and 11 deaths from the coronavirus in the 13 days since its outbreak began, with the first reported case on March 11. By contrast, it took New York City, the current U.S. epicenter of the pandemic, 16 days to get to that point, and the Seattle area, another hotspot, 19 days. As of Tuesday, New York City had approximately 15,000 cases and 131 deaths, and Washington’s King County had 1,170 cases and 87 deaths.

Experts agree the spike in cases, up 38 percent from Monday, is concerning. But they’re mixed about whether it’s an indicator of Detroit’s potential trajectory, noting that inconsistencies in testing make it difficult to draw comparisons to other cities. In addition, they say many areas have seen early jumps in their caseloads as more people get tested.

deadlinedetroit.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 4:09:03am

re: #168 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Remember, in every market, when someone loses money someone else will make money, in this case a lot of money:

American hedge fund makes $2.6BILLION from placing a $27million bet 13 days ago that the coronavirus pandemic would cause a market crash

what happens to all that money that “disappears” from the Stock Market?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 4:26:20am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what happens to all that money that “disappears” from the Stock Market?

It never was really there.

That’s the thing - a great deal of “money” is a lie. Like “wealth” - and Trump’s so called wealth is built on a lot of lies.

To be less snarky - the reason the idea of different kind of money supplies, M0, M1, M2, etc., came about is to try and tackle the different ways in which “money” can be construed.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 4:43:09am

re: #54 VegasGolfer

Thought I’d share

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Video

That was exceptional. I just sent it to almost everyone i know. Thank you.

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Axolotl  Mar 26, 2020 • 4:58:39am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what happens to all that money that “disappears” from the Stock Market?

It is not a closed system. If we agree a roll of toilet paper is worth $1000 today and in 1 year it’s back to $.10 then that is deflation.

It scares the crap out of people because deflation causes people to spend less, which causes unemployment, which causes people to spend less in a spiral.

That is why they are injecting money into the system from the government. The government can effectively try to spend it’s way out of this (WW2 and the great depression) but it runs up debt. It is also inefficient. Normally we would pay down debt during times of prosperity but we cut taxes instead.

The real problem is not the stock market at the moment but the real loss of jobs. The market is just a symptom but is somewhat disconnected from the real economy.

Now what I just said has a bunch of mistakes for the economic pedantic folks but hopefully while they correct my oversimplification we will all gain more knowledge.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:02:45am

One of Trump’s good people.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:04:35am

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Instead of Cuomo capturing the nomination, I can see Warren doing that. She ran for President, Cuomo didnt.

While Cuomo didn’t run, he is showing daily what an effective leader does. I don’t think any existing candidate has done that. Not like Cuomo has. These are not normal times.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:06:19am

re: #54 VegasGolfer

Thought I’d share

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Shared to both my twitter feed and my Facebook wall.

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Dizzy  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:06:28am

Some hope?

Montreal Heart Institute rolls out national test on drug against most deadly effect of Covid

Alan Gignac, the CEO of the Montreal Heart Institute Foundation, sent out a release officially informing the public that the MHI has launched a Canada-wide clinical study on a potential treatment for the Coronavirus. He wrote that he was sending the message, “with a sense of great pride and hope.”

thesuburban.com

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Dizzy  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:22:46am

Some more hope?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:30:30am

re: #154 Teukka

Changes in my local nom store. A plexi screen in front of the cashier:

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An idea for those of you working or having friends and/or family which work as cashiers.

They’ve already put up plexi screens at the one store I go to and all the others are installing them now. Throughout all of Canada.

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jeffreyw  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:33:20am

Keep Your Distance, Jaybird!

Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:35:39am

re: #179 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They’ve already put up plexi screens at the one store I go to and all the others are installing them now. Throughout all of Canada.

Haven’t been to a store since Sunday, thought I might go to one today, not sure what to expect now.

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:36:24am

re: #179 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They’ve already put up plexi screens at the one store I go to and all the others are installing them now. Throughout all of Canada.

And another chain in the country is rolling out the plexi cashier shields as we type…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:37:28am

Just dropped from the Department of Labor:

In the week ending March 21, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 3,283,000, an increase of
3,001,000 from the previous week’s revised level. This marks the highest level of seasonally adjusted initial claims in the
history of the seasonally adjusted series. The previous high was 695,000 in October of 1982. The previous week’s level
was revised up by 1,000 from 281,000 to 282,000. The 4-week moving average was 998,250, an increase of 765,750
from the previous week’s revised average. The previous week’s average was revised up by 250 from 232,250 to 232,500

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ericblair  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:37:55am

re: #64 gocart mozart

Say what you will about Bernie, and I have, but this is great.

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:40:46am

re: #23 jaunte
And they wouldn’t be wrong.

There are far more cases, and more cases per capita in the US than Mexico. We are the bigger threat than Mexico. We are far more mobile, and air travel makes this even more dangerous since they’re not doing the kind of screening necessary to stop people from flying while potentially sick.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:46:29am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:47:20am

re: #186 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I wonder how that Google website is doing….

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:49:02am

‘Fit and healthy’ banker, 47, dies alone in coronavirus self-isolation

Tim Galley, 47, from Wrexham, North Wales, refused to call an ambulance as his health became worse, telling his girlfriend he had no underlying health conditions and that medics would be busy dealing with other patients.

[…]

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Mike Lamb  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:52:14am

re: #154 Teukka

Changes in my local nom store. A plexi screen in front of the cashier:

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An idea for those of you working or having friends and/or family which work as cashiers.

Whole Foods in my area has installed these. All of the entrances and exits are one way traffic too.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:53:08am
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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:54:29am

re: #188 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We’re seeing nursing staff die in NYC metro area.
We’re hearing about severe shortages of PPE and the need to use makeshift PPE out of garbage bags.

But yeah, Trump’s touting that everyone has what they need to get through this.

What’ll be interesting is the per capita infection rates nationwide. NY has the highest (both total cases and per capita), but LA has 3d highest per capita rate, MS has 12th. States across the south have above average per capita rates. The midwest has average per capita rates at the moment. States that took immediate and prompt actions were able to get ahead of this, while those that didn’t saw outbreaks spread cases far and wide.

The KY vs TN example is one for the researchers to study for all time in how to do things right (in KY) and how to fail in the Trump model (TN).

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:55:26am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

what happens to all that money that “disappears” from the Stock Market?

It’s theoretical money in the box with the cat until you take it out and collapse the wave form.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:55:43am

I really fucking hate people sometimes. From the NY Post:

A Pennsylvania woman ruined an estimated $35,000 worth of goods by intentionally coughing all over them while the coronavirus plagues nations worldwide, a grocery store alleged on Facebook.

The woman visited a Hanover Township location of the small grocery chain Gerrity’s Supermarket before 2:20 p.m. Wednesday and coughed on fresh produce, a small section of the bakery, meat case and grocery items, the store’s co-owner Joe Fasula wrote.

Authorities do not believe the woman, whose name is still unknown, is infected with COVID-19, but will “make every effort” to get her tested, Fasula wrote. The woman is also said to be a “chronic problem” in the community.

“While there is little doubt this woman was doing it as a very twisted prank, we will not take any chances with the health and well-being of our customers. We had no choice but to throw out all product she came in contact with”, Fasula wrote.

Gerrity’s Supermarket called cops immediately, and more than 15 employees worked with the Hanover Township health inspector to thoroughly clean and disinfect the store.

“The case has been escalated to the District Attorney’s Office. They have assured me that they will be aggressively pursuing numerous charges,” Fasula said.

I hate to borrow a Trump catchphrase but it applies here: Lock her up!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:57:44am

re: #190 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Much of the US Senate is old to very old.

I wonder how many of them are going to make it through the pandemic.

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:58:36am

Sheeeiiit:

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 26, 2020 • 5:59:46am

re: #194 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Much of the US Senate is old to very old men.

I wonder how many of them are going to make it through the pandemic.

From the data available thus far, men seem to have a considerably higher fatality rate. And you’re right - there’s a lot of older men in the US Senate, skewing towards “advanced age”.

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:05:38am

Currently, the US has over 69,000 cases, and over 1,000 dead. We are likely to overtake Italy in total cases within the week. They currently have 74000 cases, but we’re seeing the cases increasing at a greater rate in the US than Italy (it’s a math problem).

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:07:13am

re: #172 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That was exceptional. I just sent it to almost everyone i know. Thank you.

just shared, thanks. I haven’t been doing anything like this.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:08:05am

re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg

I really fucking hate people sometimes:

A Pennsylvania woman ruined an estimated $35,000 worth of goods by intentionally coughing all over them while the coronavirus plagues nations worldwide, a grocery store alleged on Facebook.

The woman visited a Hanover Township location of the small grocery chain Gerrity’s Supermarket before 2:20 p.m. Wednesday and coughed on fresh produce, a small section of the bakery, meat case and grocery items, the store’s co-owner Joe Fasula wrote.

Authorities do not believe the woman, whose name is still unknown, is infected with COVID-19, but will “make every effort” to get her tested, Fasula wrote. The woman is also said to be a “chronic problem” in the community.

“While there is little doubt this woman was doing it as a very twisted prank, we will not take any chances with the health and well-being of our customers. We had no choice but to throw out all product she came in contact with”, Fasula wrote.

Gerrity’s Supermarket called cops immediately, and more than 15 employees worked with the Hanover Township health inspector to thoroughly clean and disinfect the store.

“The case has been escalated to the District Attorney’s Office. They have assured me that they will be aggressively pursuing numerous charges,” Fasula said.

I hate to borrow a Trump catchphrase but it applies here: Lock her up!

coughing on groceries to own the libs

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:09:13am

re: #198 Sir John Barron

just shared, thanks. I haven’t been doing anything like this.

I haven’t been either. But I will going forward.

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PrairieQueen  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:09:30am

re: #149 electrotek

I’ll trade this guy for Paula White. Fair enough? At least I don’t see a cup in his hand.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:14:07am

re: #54 VegasGolfer

Thought I’d share

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That looks very useful. Can you move it to a page or somewhere so it will persist?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:17:10am

re: #196 Dr Lizardo

From the data available thus far, men seem to have a considerably higher fatality rate. And you’re right - there’s a lot of older men in the US Senate, skewing towards “advanced age”.

Hmmmm…..

Why is the coronavirus so much more deadly for men than for women?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:18:50am

re: #194 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Much of the US Senate is old to very old.

I wonder how many of them are going to make it through the pandemic.

I just did the math. The vast majority of Senators are in the late 40s to early 70s age range.

The average age for a GOP Senator is 66 Years old.

The average age for a Democratic Senator is 61 years old.

By my quick count, there are 24 female senators and 76 male senators.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:24:56am

re: #202 Decatur Deb

That looks very useful. Can you move it to a page or somewhere so it will persist?

VG isn’t currently online so I took the liberty of creating a page for him. Please give credit were credit is due.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:28:45am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:30:56am

Well, Trump & Co. have to claim that the unemployment number spike is an illusion or else they have to admit that another statistic that they’ve crowed about repeatedly and now running the wrong way.

Be also interesting to see how many states refuse to report numbers after being requested to not do so by the administration.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:31:10am

re: #206 lawhawk

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These assholes

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sagehen  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:39:28am

re: #173 Axolotl

It scares the crap out of people because deflation causes people to spend less, which causes unemployment, which causes people to spend less in a spiral.

That is why they are injecting money into the system from the government. The government can effectively try to spend it’s way out of this (WW2 and the great depression) but it runs up debt. It is also inefficient. Normally we would pay down debt during times of prosperity but we cut taxes instead.

aka Counter-cyclical spending. Kind of the whole idea behind Keynesian economics… when the private sector is fucked, there’s more food stamps and unemployment benefits (and in an earlier generation, WPA work projects). Government as consumer of last resort, to keep the wheels spinning until the private sector recovers and can take back the reins.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:40:08am

re: #205 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

One of the problems with his recommendations, and I see this quite a bit from other health professionals, is to only go to the grocery store every two weeks.

Well, many of us can’t do that.

The advice only applies to those who go to the store in a car, because two weeks of goods is too much to hand carry.

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Many people who live in cities depend upon walking our using public transport. They can’t haul two weeks of stuff.

At best, most people can carry but a few days worth of stuff, if they have to go any significant distance.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:41:06am

Pretty stark WaPo headline this morning:

THE NATION COMES TOGETHER - WITHOUT TRUMP

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:41:29am

re: #203 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Hmmmm…..

Why is the coronavirus so much more deadly for men than for women?

To Perlman, those dual findings strongly suggest that there’s something about estrogen that protects against the ravages of deadly coronaviruses — and he suspects it’s true for the new SARS-CoV-19 virus as well.

and

“I’m not surprised” that women’s immune systems may do things in ways that men could learn from, Pinkerton said. For years, immunologists only studied male mammals because the complexity of female hormones muddied their findings, he said.

When it comes to fighting infection, he added, “we really need to study both sexes to understand susceptibility.”

YA THINK?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:44:00am

so do any of you have masks? I just ordered some, which should arrive next week. Most are at least a month back ordered.

I do have some latex gloves from when I was administering a medication to one of my cats a few years back and the vet recommended I use them when handling the medication.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:45:10am

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

Pretty stark WaPo headline this morning:

THE NATION COMES TOGETHER - WITHOUT TRUMP

Well, except for Mississippi.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:45:18am

re: #212 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not like female mammalian immune systems have to routinely be able to handle gestation of young for an extended period with the associated complications.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:45:33am

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

Pretty stark WaPo headline this morning:

THE NATION COMES TOGETHER - WITHOUT TRUMP

While he’s tweeting how Cuomo should be more fair to him, Cuomo is being a leader. Trump is nothing but a cowardly fuck who loves the smell of his own shits.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:45:38am

re: #48 LadyBehir

Even brassier tacks - what if Bernie, Biden, Pence, and Trump all die before the election? Before the nomination? How would that get handled on a legal/practical/realistic way?

1872 Presidential Election:

en.wikipedia.org

Democratic and Liberal Republican candidate Horace Greeley died after the election but before the Electors cast their ballots. The Greeley electors scattered their votes among various people

1912 Presidential Election

en.wikipedia.org

After the election and before electors cast their ballots, Taft’s Vice President died. The Republican National Committee named a replacement candidate..

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:48:26am

re: #217 Joe Bacon 🌹

1872 Presidential Election:

en.wikipedia.org

Democratic and Liberal Republican candidate Horace Greeley died after the election but before the Electors cast their ballots. The Greeley electors scattered their votes among various people

1912 Presidential Election

en.wikipedia.org

After the election and before electors cast their ballots, Taft’s Vice President died. The Republican National Committee named a replacement candidate..

Hopefully it doesn’t come to that. I’m glad that Biden has been doing conferences from his home. Safe and smart. He sounds presidential too.

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Greup  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:50:14am

re: #206 lawhawk

I think business will rehire when the consumer thinks its safe to be among people again. Especially businesses that centers around people. (Bars, stores with nonessentials, travel etc.) So not anywhere near fully until there is a vaccine, congress spending or no.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:50:58am

re: #210 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus


One of the problems with his recommendations, and I see this quite a bit from other health professionals, is to only go to the grocery store every two weeks.

Well, many of us can’t do that….

In our area, and in Denver with Daughter2, there is a service called “Instacart” that will deliver a pre-ordered grocery load. (In Denver, the charge was rather outrageous.) In a long hold-down better delivery systems will develop.

Wife and I started a self-quarantine “exercise” 8 days ago which has transitioned into the real thing. We left the house for a eye doctor’s appointment and picked up from Publix on the way.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:51:13am
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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:52:49am

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:53:11am

re: #221 jaunte

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He’s such a stupid person. But then again look at his parentage.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:53:50am

re: #223 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Whipping up resentment is all they have.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:55:08am

re: #221 jaunte

LOL. Nadler is out of fucks to give. I like it.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:55:49am
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sagehen  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:56:48am

re: #217 Joe Bacon 🌹

1872 Presidential Election:

en.wikipedia.org

Democratic and Liberal Republican candidate Horace Greeley died after the election but before the Electors cast their ballots. The Greeley electors scattered their votes among various people

1912 Presidential Election

en.wikipedia.org

After the election and before electors cast their ballots, Taft’s Vice President died. The Republican National Committee named a replacement candidate..

West Wing episode 7.17 — VP candidate Leo McGarry dies on election night; his body is found in his hotel room when his chief of staff comes to inform him they won.

The Santos team considers naming a new running mate before the electoral college meets; they ultimately decide to inaugurate Santos alone, and send his VP nomination to Congress the next day for 25th Amendment confirmation.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:58:37am
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A Mom Anon  Mar 26, 2020 • 6:59:36am

re: #226 jaunte

Any selfish fuckstick who is worried about their nails right now needs to shut the ever loving fuck the fuck up. I’m SO sick of selfish and self focused assholes. This is a huge part of why Clovid-19 is a fucking pandemic. I swear if I had the resources, I would track down all those little spring break fucks being self focused douche nozzles and best the shit out of all of them. Damn it.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:01:03am

re: #221 jaunte

That’s going to be a talking point. I’m hearing it up here at work as well. I pointed out we paid people to paint, take pictures, and write during the Great Depression.

Edited

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:01:31am

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

Pretty stark WaPo headline this morning:

THE NATION COMES TOGETHER - WITHOUT TRUMP

And that is the boat he missed: regardless of whether the economy took a hit, if he had showed some leadership and rallied the nation around the President, it would not have hurt his re-election chances, in fact, it could have greatly enhanced them.

Instead, he put all his eggs in low unemployment and a burgeoning stock market and refused to consider any other approach.

Of course, that could have something to do with the fact that he lacks the character, experience and basic knowledge to manage any sort of crisis.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:01:56am

re: #228 Belafon

The only thing worse than the poors getting more unemployment $$$$ than they deserve is learning that a few million $$$$ out of a $2 trillion bill might go to HBCU.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:02:24am

From one of my friends on the front line. I’m so worried about all of them. Sigh.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:02:35am

re: #230 Belafon

More of the “anti-egghead” rhetoric the right wing has used since Adlai Stevenson.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:02:55am

re: #226 jaunte

The people whining so hard that Trump never said the virus was a ‘hoax’ are basically still claiming that the virus is a hoax.

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sagehen  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:03:11am

re: #221 jaunte

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How many thousands of New Yorkers work on Broadway and off-Broadway shows? How many people work on concert tours or festivals? How many people work on TV productions that have been shut down?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:03:20am

re: #229 A Mom Anon

Any selfish fuckstick who is worried about their nails right now needs to shut the ever loving fuck the fuck up. I’m SO sick of selfish and self focused assholes. This is a huge part of why Clovid-19 is a fucking pandemic. I swear if I had the resources, I would track down all those little spring break fucks being self focused douche nozzles and best the shit out of all of them. Damn it.

As I saw somewhere else (and I agree with) is that the Florida beach situation was mainly the governor’s fault for not being the adult in the room and closing the beaches. The 20-year-olds on the beach being drunk are 20-year-olds acting as 20-year-olds do. There is not much of a cure for that without implementing a bunch of cultural and educational changes.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:03:30am

re: #230 Belafon

Autocorrect on “paid”?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:03:58am

re: #238 Decatur Deb

Autocorrect on “paid”?

we paint people to get paid

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:04:52am

re: #238 Decatur Deb

Autocorrect on “paid”?

Thanks. Maybe we did paint people to paint people.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:07:59am

re: #210 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of the problems with his recommendations, and I see this quite a bit from other health professionals, is to only go to the grocery store every two weeks.

Well, many of us can’t do that.

The advice only applies to those who go to the store in a car, because two weeks of goods is too much to hand carry.

Many people who live in cities depend upon walking our using public transport. They can’t haul two weeks of stuff.

At best, most people can carry but a few days worth of stuff, if they have to go any significant distance.

Understood. If my spouse is unable to take me to the store I use a little two wheel cart with an insulated vinyl bag for shopping. At most I can put 3-4 days worth of food in it (I leave room for a couple of ice packs if I am picking up perishables) and be able to comfortably pull it. The basic premise behind the video is still valid though. Sanitize it as best you can before you put it on your shelf or in your fridge/freezer.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:10:10am

re: #240 Belafon

Thanks. Maybe we did paint people to paint people.

We Paint Anybodies

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sagehen  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:15:48am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And that is the boat he missed: regardless of whether the economy took a hit, if he had showed some leadership and rallied the nation around the President, it would not have hurt his re-election chances, in fact, it could have greatly enhanced them.

Instead, he put all his eggs in low unemployment and a burgeoning stock market and refused to consider any other approach.

Of course, that could have something to do with the fact that he lacks the character, experience and basic knowledge to manage any sort of crisis.

Hurricane Sandy (October 2012) and proper federal response thereto was probably worth 2% of Obama’s re-election votes.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:17:06am

re: #237 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

As I saw somewhere else (and I agree with) is that the Florida beach situation was mainly the governor’s fault for not being the adult in the room and closing the beaches. The 20-year-olds on the beach being drunk are 20-year-olds acting as 20-year-olds do. There is not much of a cure for that without implementing a bunch of cultural and educational changes.

And Disney has no goddamned excuse…pure greed. Seeing pics of thousands of people in close proximity made me physically ill.

And all these people in FL have gone to everywhere in the world.

It is absolutely stunning that this is the GOP response. They are all actively trying to get as many of us killed as possible.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:17:28am

The Worst Intelligence Failure in U.S. History

In short, the Trump administration forced a catastrophic strategic surprise onto the American people. But unlike past strategic surprises—Pearl Harbor, the Iranian revolution of 1979, or especially 9/11--the current one was brought about by unprecedented indifference, even willful negligence. Whereas, for example, the 9/11 Commission Report assigned blame for the al Qaeda attacks on the administrations of presidents Ronald Reagan through George W. Bush, the unfolding coronavirus crisis is overwhelmingly the sole responsibility of the current White House.”

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Kilroy was here  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:18:43am

U.S. government waives policy requiring that students come in person to pick up free school meals

The federal government is waiving a policy that required students to come in person to pick up free school meals for the duration of the novel coronavirus-driven closures, with officials citing concerns over families’ safety.

New guidance from the U.S. Agriculture Department, issued Wednesday, allows school districts to distribute meals “to a parent or guardian to take home to their children,” according to a copy obtained by The Washington Post. The waiver takes effect immediately, and applies automatically to all states that elect to use it.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:19:38am

i just cut up a whole chicken for the crock pot

remember when all we had to worry about in the kitchen was a little salmonella?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:21:04am

Morning all……

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:23:31am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:24:15am

re: #244 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And Disney has no goddamned excuse…pure greed. Seeing pics of thousands of people in close proximity made me physically ill.

And all these people in FL have gone to everywhere in the world.

It is absolutely stunning that this is the GOP response. They are all actively trying to get as many of us killed as possible.

it must be labeled the “GOP response”
20 states have stay at home orders

These states are largely in the Northeast, the Upper Midwest, and on the West Coast. Only six of them (Idaho, Indiana, Massachusetts, Ohio, Vermont, and West Virginia) have Republican governors. Only one (Louisiana) is in the South.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:24:39am

re: #246 Kilroy was here

The waiver takes effect immediately, and applies automatically to all states that elect to use it.

So, not Mississippi.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:24:56am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:26:26am

re: #235 Sir John Barron

The people whining so hard that Trump never said the virus was a ‘hoax’ are basically still claiming that the virus is a hoax.

….

President Trump’s reelection campaign sent cease and desist letters to local news outlets on Wednesday threatening legal action if they refused to stop airing a Democratic super PAC’s ad suggesting the president called the coronavirus a “hoax,” Fox News reports.

it doesn’t ‘suggest
it uses video
of trump
using the word ‘hoax’

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:26:35am

Hmm. Urgent message from the leasing office. Virus related? Nope.

Dear Residents,

There has been an increase in dog poop not being cleaned up.This is unacceptable, unhealthy, and unfair to everyone living at South Valley Townhomes. It’s also a violation of the lease.

I’m asking every resident to keep an eye out for anyone who does not clean up after their dog.

We are tired of getting complaints from resident regarding the amount of poop on the property. When your dog is done going to bathroom, you clean it up right away, not later.

Please report anyone not cleaning up after their dog to the leasing office.

Ah. Jackasses be jackasses. Though it is a valid concern especially with lots of kids running about more since schools are closed.

(I also suspect part of the issue is that it’s non-residents letting their dogs poop on the property and not cleaning it up. After all, the dog isn’t pooping in *their* yard.)

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:26:36am

Our con man president quotes another con man; death results.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:32:23am

Even egghead bosses are still PHBs:

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:32:52am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:33:35am

re: #257 The Pie Overlord!

If you’re nice to him, sure.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:34:06am

re: #257 The Pie Overlord!

Is Trump going to autograph this chart, too?

god forbid we should give these people more aid money than they earned or they will spend the rest of their lives concocting hoaxes to stay out of work…

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:39:30am

re: #180 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Same to you!

Practicing serious social distancing.
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Mescalero09  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:41:30am

Aww. Melania is concerned some children may stumble across her porn shots.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:41:31am
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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:45:31am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:46:30am

re: #263 jaunte

I do not think that will happen.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:47:00am

re: #263 jaunte

I don’t recall pettiness as being a positive defining characteristic for our political leadership, or leadership in general.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:48:03am

Welcome To Henninger’s Happy Talk!

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:48:35am

Texas grocery chain:

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:49:49am

re: #267 jaunte

Very smart move by HEB.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:50:03am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:50:23am

enjoy some of the day

YouTube

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:50:31am

re: #267 jaunte

Texas grocery chain:

There’s a CEO I wouldn’t mind running the country.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:51:58am

re: #269 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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How is a Trump “vow” different from a Trump lie?
(not a rhetorical question… well actually I guess it is.)

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:52:59am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:53:02am

re: #269 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If Mayor Kenney and Gov Wolf tell me to stay at home I will in spite of what DT says.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:53:55am

re: #263 jaunte

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he’ll never ‘rise above’ the denial and duplicity

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:55:53am

re: #273 DodgerFan1988

She is desperate for attention.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:56:50am

re: #273 DodgerFan1988

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no problem. after, all i got a job

Asked on CNBC about the record joblessness report, which totaled nearly 3.3 million people, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin downplayed the report.

Said Mnuchin: “I just think these numbers right now are not relevant. Whether they’re bigger or smaller in the short term… the good thing about this bill is, the president is protecting these people.”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:57:30am

another four tops, more apropos

YouTube

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sagehen  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:57:34am

re: #263 jaunte

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If grandma had wheels she’d be a wagon. (old Yiddish saying)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:57:57am
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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:58:02am

re: #275 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:58:40am

re: #277 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 7:59:19am

re: #273 DodgerFan1988

The Left: “We have to shut down the economy for months, no matter how much it costs or what it does to Americans.”

Also the Left: “Wow! Those jobless claim numbers are really high!

Put words in people’s mouths then argue with your own words.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:00:14am

and that asshole desantis, they cant make it about anything except politics

“”He’s not going to be dictated to by liberal politicians and editorial boards,” Herold said. “Ron is a guy who is going to do what he thinks is best for the state, regardless of the consequence.”

the economy is not the state
the people are the state

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:01:05am

Pelosi is holding a new conference according to The Washington Post. It is on right now.
washingtonpost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:01:31am

re: #284 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

and that asshole desantis, they cant make it about anything except politics

the economy is not the state
the people are the state

we created the economy to serve people

people were not created to serve the economy

I understand that a functional, healthy economy is vital, but functional, healthy people are more vital

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:01:43am

re: #284 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

I wonder how fast Desantis would change his tune if one of his kids died from this shit?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:02:04am

re: #247 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i just cut up a whole chicken for the crock pot

remember when all we had to worry about in the kitchen was a little salmonella?

The research about heat stability of coronavirus is preliminary, but if 56C kills it, I should think cooking would do just fine. Wash your hands after preparing it. For 20 seconds. With soap.

It might be contaminated with salmonella.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:02:21am

re: #284 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

and that asshole desantis, they cant make it about anything except politics

the economy is not the state
the people are the state

Killing your state to own the libs and newspaper editorial boards.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:02:43am

re: #287 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder how fast Desantis would change his tune if one of his kids died from this shit?

might depend on whether it was his favorite or not // (1/2)

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Citizen K  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:03:17am

So what exactly is this shit about giving Bernie credit for single-handedly salvaging the emergency fund bill for workers now? Seems like a lot of Berners getting retweeted in my feed with this shit going on.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:03:36am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:03:50am

re: #273 DodgerFan1988

Another entry in the “the virus is all a hoax” sweepstakes.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:05:12am

re: #288 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

The research about heat stability of coronavirus is preliminary, but if 56C kills it, I should think cooking would do just fine. Wash your hands after preparing it. For 20 seconds. With soap.

It might be contaminated with salmonella.

sorry i wasnt clear
i wasnt thinking about the cooking per se
it was the the cleaning up the counter and knives etc after
when ‘all’ we had to worry about was possibly a little food poisoning ;-)

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Mescalero09  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:07:57am

Grand Mom is dead kids. But look! NO MORE BLACK ROOTS! I feel so ALIVE!”

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:08:53am

re: #291 Citizen K

So what exactly is this shit about giving Bernie credit for single-handedly salvaging the emergency fund bill for workers now? Seems like a lot of Berners getting retweeted in my feed with this shit going on.

See

#184.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:13:06am

re: #295 Mescalero09

That’s pretty fucked up, even for Fox News.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:14:13am

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s pretty fucked up, even for Fox News.

they are really playing to their hard-core base. they know they have viewers who would rather risk death than go without a pedicure

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calochortus  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:15:27am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they are really playing to their hard-core base. they know they have viewers who would rather risk death than go without a pedicure

And softening up the general viewership to the idea of dying to help the economy.

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sagehen  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:16:08am

re: #295 Mescalero09

Grand Mom is dead kids. But look! NO MORE BLACK ROOTS! I feel so ALIVE!”

[Embedded content]

Do like the poors… do your own nails (if you’re quarantined with family, do each other’s nails). As for your roots… grocery stores have Clairol, etc. Buy a box, follow instructions.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:16:54am

re: #300 sagehen

That works for me. :)

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:17:05am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they are really playing to their hard-core base. they know they have viewers who would rather risk death than go without a pedicure

It’s also justifies people’s need to look down on those “beneath” them. If we start thinking that manicurists, grocery employees, and waiters deserve to be treated as real people where does it end? A living wage?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:17:09am

re: #294 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

sorry i wasnt clear
i wasnt thinking about the cooking per se
it was the the cleaning up the counter and knives etc after
when ‘all’ we had to worry about was possibly a little food poisoning ;-)

re: #247 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i just cut up a whole chicken for the crock pot

remember when all we had to worry about in the kitchen was a little salmonella?

I was just trying to add a little levity to the conversation. On my daily walks, I see people step into the street to keep their distance. Instead of being a mere four feet from someone for the three seconds it would take to walk past. Excess of caution indeed.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:17:58am

Update: still only coughing a little. We have some oxygen canisters that we ordered off of Amazon a few days ago, so if things get bad, I won’t have to burden a hospital.

Meanwhile, I see this and just have to laugh, to keep from crying:

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Mescalero09  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:18:14am

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s pretty fucked up, even for Fox News.

They are beyond “fucked up.”
They are fucking evil.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:18:14am

re: #297 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s pretty fucked up, even for Fox News a human being.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:18:17am

re: #299 calochortus

And softening up the general viewership to the idea of dying to help the economy.

Again, the whole “Easter Resurrection” end-run is going to be a move to pit “Patriotic Christian Capitalists” vs “Secularist Traitorous Socialists”, with a lot of poor people caught in the middle…

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Mescalero09  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:19:47am

re: #300 sagehen

Do like the poors… do your own nails (if you’re quarantined with family, do each other’s nails). As for your roots… grocery stores have Clairol, etc. Buy a box, follow instructions.

“Don’t you know WHO I AM?!??”

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calochortus  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:20:06am

re: #304 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Update: still only coughing a little. We have some oxygen canisters that we ordered off of Amazon a few days ago, so if things get bad, I won’t have to burden a hospital.

Meanwhile, I see this and just have to laugh:

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Hope you improve, but remember that this can go south quickly, so if you need a hospital, go to a hospital (after calling in, of course.)

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:20:29am

re: #273 DodgerFan1988

GOP “Gee, too bad Gramma had to die to give the grave diggers a job”.

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calochortus  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:21:55am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, the whole “Easter Resurrection” end-run is going to be a move to pit “Patriotic Christian Capitalists” vs “Secularist Traitorous Socialists”, with a lot of poor people caught in the middle…

Yeah, but Patriotic Christian Corporate Big Wigs aren’t on board with keeping the epidemic going, so they might just prevent an Easter Resurrection.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:22:10am

re: #310 William Lewis

GOP “Gee, too bad Gramma had to die to give the grave diggers a job”.

This is your daily reminder (generic, not you, William):

GRAMPA

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:23:07am

re: #304 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Update: still only coughing a little. We have some oxygen canisters that we ordered off of Amazon a few days ago, so if things get bad, I won’t have to burden a hospital.

Meanwhile, I see this and just have to laugh, to keep from crying:

[Embedded content]

WOW. Good thinking. I hope you are ok. How long have you had this?

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:25:58am

re: #281 lawhawk

“…if the President can rise above pettiness…”

That quote alone negates the whole premise of that WSJ editorial. Asking Trump to rise above pettiness is like asking McDonalds to start serving T-bone steaks w/ fresh garlic butter sauce. It isn’t going to happen in this universe.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:26:00am

just got this

Jewish Irony:

Passover cancelled because of a plague

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Citizen K  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:26:10am

re: #296 Belafon

See

[Embedded content]

#184.

Yeah, I saw that, but they were talking about how he was single handedly adding in worker protections into the bill himself and getting them passed by sheer force of being Bernie The Wise.

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:29:17am

So.
The bad news? Headache & muscle aches.

The good news? Sneezing, congestion and no cough.

Never thought I’d be happy to be getting a spring cold.

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:30:54am

re: #312 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

This is your daily reminder (generic, not you, William):

GRAMPA

Granted more likely, but it can still kill both and the GOP doesn’t care who gets whacked so long as it isn’t them or their wallet.

In a just world, the tumbrels and guillotines would be working overtime.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:32:09am
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Mescalero09  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:33:09am

Mad Magazine may be gone, but satire lives on.

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sagehen  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:37:41am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:37:52am

Cuomo live: nytimes.com

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makeitstop  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:42:11am

re: #300 sagehen

Do like the poors… do your own nails (if you’re quarantined with family, do each other’s nails). As for your roots… grocery stores have Clairol, etc. Buy a box, follow instructions.

Hey, unless my roots touch-up costs $400 and was done in a chi-chi salon, it’s just not right!

[/Fox blondebot]

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:43:54am

re: #318 William Lewis

Granted more likely, but it can still kill both and the GOP doesn’t care who gets whacked so long as it isn’t them or their wallet.

In a just world, the tumbrels and guillotines would be working overtime.

In their world, grandma is expendable, grandpa isn’t.

In our world, overlooking male mortality could cause people to overlook the special vulnerability of men.

So I will continue to correct this.

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:44:56am

The quackery is in full swing:

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:47:55am

re: #325 Targetpractice

::: eye roll ::: Let’s see we the blow dryer up the nose. Drinking fish tank cleaner. Also chlorine bleach. And now black seeds. I am going to have one heck of a collection of these so-called cures.

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gwangung  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:49:01am
Trump telling people to return to work because it’s safe is like telling Indins to take the blankets because they are comfy….

William Yellow Robe (Native American playwright)

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:50:39am

re: #325 Targetpractice

The quackery is in full swing:

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Particularly since the quote says it won’t save you. “…every malady except death.”

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:54:27am
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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:54:56am
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austin_blue  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:55:02am

re: #195 lawhawk

Sheeeiiit:

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Amazing, isn’t it?

And that was before states and cities started shutting down bigly. Wait until next week when the real Covid #’s start to hit. I’m betting it’ll double, at least.

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Mescalero09  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:56:34am

Instagram

Take a deep breath and watch this dog play piano for his mom 😍

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Mar 26, 2020 • 8:59:54am

re: #300 sagehen

I color my wife’s hair going on 7 years now

Had kids in college and this was one of many $ saving diy techniques we used to not pile on educational debt

I scrupulously followed the directions, and use good lighting. Results: good to great

Not my usual swim lane, so I beam with small pride when she gets compliments on her hair

Btw my hands are too large for gloves in the typical dye box, so I bought two boxes of Harbor Freight nitrile gloves size XL that come in handy other places these days

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garzooma  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:01:43am

re: #292 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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It looks like this is using the Kinsa heath map (based on internet connected thermometers). The thing is, it’s showing the levels going down while we know that the coronavirus cases are going up. For whatever reason, it just doesn’t seem to do a good job of tracking coronavirus.

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Mescalero09  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:06:12am

re: #325 Targetpractice

I heard tell urinating on a 3rd rail will cleanse the Covid-19 from you.

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:07:51am

re: #255 jaunte

Our con man president quotes another con man; death results.

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And the guy is a climate change skepdick on top of it all…

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:08:17am

re: #335 Mescalero09

I heard tell urinating on a 3rd rail will cleanse the Covid-19 from you.

You will never suffer from any more symptoms.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:08:55am

re: #334 garzooma

… it just doesn’t seem to do a good job of tracking coronavirus.

The map depends upon those who have the Kinsa thermometers. Chances are the more vulnerable population (older folk) don’t have them, as blue-tooth and computer connected thermometers are a bit new fashioned.

And I also suspect that the younger people who may have these new-fangled gadgets are more likely to be asymptomatic.

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Mescalero09  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:09:18am

re: #337 Belafon

You will never suffer from any more symptoms.

Quite cleansing.

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:13:03am

Just in case you need a little something special in your life. Added points if you remember Kenny Rogers this way… ;)

The First Edition : Just Dropped In (To See What Condition My Condition Was In)

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makeitstop  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:14:37am

re: #340 William Lewis

Just in case you need a little something special in your life. Added points if you remember Kenny Rogers this way… ;)

[Embedded content]

Still my favorite Kenny song.

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:17:25am

And the drawer of the short straw in the “Who will fuck up this relief bill vote?” is:

“If it were just about helping people to get more unemployment (benefits) to get through this calamity that, frankly, the governors have wrought on the people, then I could be for it,” Massie said during a radio interview Thursday morning. “But this is $2 trillion; divide $2 trillion by 350 million people — it’s almost $6,000 for every man, woman and child. I’m talking about spending. This won’t go to the men, women and children. So if you have a family of five, this spending bill represents $30,000 of additional U.S. national debt because there is no plan to pay for it.”

We’re reversing the tax cuts you voted for, Tommy. The ones you had no problem with when you voted for them not 3 years ago. Fuck you very much.

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makeitstop  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:17:39am

re: #341 makeitstop

Still my favorite Kenny song.

Those lyrics, though…. :)

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:19:49am

re: #342 Targetpractice

And the drawer of the short straw in the “Who will fuck up this relief bill vote?” is:

We’re reversing the tax cuts you voted for, Tommy. The ones you had no problem with when you voted for them not 3 years ago. Fuck you very much.

Massie gets to hold up the bill only if every Congressperson gets to cough on him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:22:39am

Oh if only Rand Paul’s neighbor got a hold of Massie….

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lizardofid  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:22:58am

re: #343 makeitstop

Those lyrics, though…. :)

Tryin’ real hard to be “trippy” ; )

(but I like also)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:23:28am

re: #342 Targetpractice

Wait, I thought the Coronavirus stimulus already passed? Or is this a different bill?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:23:39am

re: #340 William Lewis

Just in case you need a little something special in your life. Added points if you remember Kenny Rogers this way… ;)

I remember that song as a kid…and found it totally awesome.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:24:54am

re: #347 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, I thought the Coronavirus stimulus already passed? Or is this a different bill?

Through the Senate, but it has to get through the House and there are people who cannot pass up a chance to do some grandstanding.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:25:45am

Total cases have passed 500k.

Oh, and the US bumped Italy out of 2nd place on the number of cases.

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makeitstop  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:26:03am

re: #348 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember that song as a kid…and found it totally awesome.

That song sounded amazing coming out of an AM radio.

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garzooma  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:26:05am

re: #338 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The map depends upon those who have the Kinsa thermometers. Chances are the more vulnerable population (older folk) don’t have them, as blue-tooth and computer connected thermometers are a bit new fashioned.

And I also suspect that the younger people who may have these new-fangled gadgets are more likely to be asymptomatic.

I was also thinking whereas people normally check their temperature when they’re not feeling well, now they’re checking all the time, so you’re getting a lot more cases where nothing is wrong. But the plain fact is that for whatever reason, it doesn’t seem particularly helpful for the current epidemic.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:27:14am

Speaking of Kenny Rogers, my biggest memory related to him is rather odd. When I was young I used to have to go to the Childrens Hospital across town every few months or so to see a couple of specialists for ongoing conditions that I had.

It just so happened there was a Kenny Rogers Roasters restaurant about two minutes away from the hospital and it was one of the only restaurants in the immediate area.

My parents knew I didn’t enjoy the appointments so they’d sell me on going by promising we could get food at Roasters after my appointment. As I recall, the food there wasn’t half bad.

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:27:14am

re: #327 gwangung

William Yellow Robe (Native American playwright)

Ohhh. That’s a 5000 degree Fahrenheit burn.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:28:08am

re: #342 Targetpractice

And the drawer of the short straw in the “Who will fuck up this relief bill vote?” is:

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We’re reversing the tax cuts you voted for, Tommy. The ones you had no problem with when you voted for them not 3 years ago. Fuck you very much.

They need to pass remote voting.

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:35:02am
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Jay C  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:37:19am

re: #342 Targetpractice

And the drawer of the short straw in the “Who will fuck up this relief bill vote?” is:

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I realize Thomas Massie is one of the Congressional GOP caucus’s Designated Dickheads, but how can he hold up the CV relief bill all by himself? Might not Mme Speaker (and or the Majority leaders adn/or the rest of the House) have something to say about it?

IIRC, the House rules do not allow for the sort of unlimited filibuster their colleagues in the Senate abuse enjoy…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:37:35am

re: #357 Teukka

The hilarious thing is that Jesus himself said you DON’T need a whole ton of people in one place to properly worship.

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:39:14am

re: #358 Jay C

I realize Thomas Massie is one of the Congressional GOP caucus’s Designated Dickheads, but how can he hold up the CV relief bill all by himself? Might not Mme Speaker (and or the Majority leaders adn/or the rest of the House) have something to say about it?

IIRC, the House rules do not allow for the sort of unlimited filibuster their colleagues in the Senate abuse enjoy…

There’s fewer than 218 in attendance due to efforts to control viral spread, so the House leadership intended to pass the Senate bill under unanimous consent rules. However, the rules allow a single member of the House to block passage of a bill…which Massie is saying he fully intends to do because he’s dickless.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:43:02am

gaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:43:42am

re: #359 Eclectic Cyborg

The hilarious thing is that Jesus himself said you DON’T need a whole ton of people in one place to properly worship.

Mhhhm. Matthew 18:20 comes to mind. 2-3 heads and the carpenters lad is with’em…

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Mike Lamb  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:45:01am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaahhhhhhh

[Embedded content]

Is anyone asking him how he could vote for the tax cut that disproportionately favored the wealthy and how people would pay for that “eventually”?

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:45:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:45:55am

re: #340 William Lewis

Just in case you need a little something special in your life. Added points if you remember Kenny Rogers this way… ;)

Repeat from the other day:

So a fellow was visiting his doctor, who advised him to get more exercise and even invited him to come out and join their local softball league, it was very informal, he could just show up and play.

He showed up and the coach asked him if he would like to join in.

“No,” he replied “I just dropped in to see what position my physician was in!”

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:46:01am

re: #340 William Lewis

Just in case you need a little something special in your life. Added points if you remember Kenny Rogers this way… ;)

[Embedded content]

This is the only way I remember that song

Kenny Rogers - JUST DROPPED IN (“The Big Lebowski”) ᴴᴰ

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retired cynic  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:47:29am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:50:13am

re: #366 The Pie Overlord!

This is the only way I remember that song

[Embedded content]

Video

I am glad that I went to the cinema to see TBL…all those great Busby Berkley scenes just don’t cut it on an small screen

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Teukka  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:51:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:53:36am

re: #369 Teukka

You ain’t gonna believe this shit…

Reuters: Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak

He knew it was coming and wanted to keep our people safe, remember how quickly he reacted?

/

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Decatur Deb  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:54:30am

re: #357 Teukka

Asshole is going to get people killed…

It was a sad day when he lost the 2020 primary. All my hopes are on Tuberville in the runoff, which is postponed until mid-June.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:54:57am

re: #369 Teukka

Yeah, I posted that last night. It ought to be news, in the sense of getting people’s attention, but the full court press by the GOP machine is making Trump out to be the hero, filling the visual and audio inputs of Americans with anything that will distract from Trump’s culpability.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:54:58am

re: #65 Dread Pirate

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Like our grocery system is too, running out of TP and hand sanitizer?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:56:33am

Motion to blast Thomas Massie out of a cannon.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:57:07am

re: #374 Eclectic Cyborg

2nd the motion.

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:57:34am

re: #359 Eclectic Cyborg

The hilarious thing is that Jesus himself said you DON’T need a whole ton of people in one place to properly worship.

Heh. Lock yourself away and pray in private. Two or three gathered… :)

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:59:13am

re: #374 Eclectic Cyborg

Motion to blast Thomas Massie out of a cannon.

seconded with a baseball bat.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:59:19am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaahhhhhhh

Pelosi should ask the House minority leader if it’s ok if enough Democrats show up and boot Massie.

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makeitstop  Mar 26, 2020 • 9:59:33am

Today’s winner of the Shit Take Sweepstakes is….NRO!

He’s getting roasted in the replies, as he should.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:00:35am

re: #313 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

WOW. Good thinking. I hope you are ok. How long have you had this?

Bought them 2 weeks ago, b/c Mrs Khal has bad lungs. They’re small, but they give you a real boost if you need it

Prices have skyrocketed. You might want to find a medical supply store near you …

amazon.com

These were $12 when we bought them, now up to $86

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:01:17am

re: #373 Eventual Carrion

Like our grocery system is too, running out of TP and hand sanitizer?

That is just our mass panic. There is no reason that stores should not be limiting purchases.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:02:14am

re: #197 lawhawk

Currently, the US has over 69,000 cases, and over 1,000 dead. We are likely to overtake Italy in total cases within the week. They currently have 74000 cases, but we’re seeing the cases increasing at a greater rate in the US than Italy (it’s a math problem).

IMO we will be number 1 by this time tomorrow in number of reported cases. It’s likely that China is lying but all we have to go on is the official record.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:02:42am

re: #381 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is just our mass panic. There is no reason that stores should not be limiting purchases.

Most of the stores around me are doing just that. Last weekend, my wife and I had to go to three different stores but we were able to get everything we needed.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:04:30am

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

Jesus, they made one last attempt to sneak the secrecy clause through hoping nobody would notice

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Fucking sleazy pricks.

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gocart mozart  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:04:42am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:05:22am

re: #383 Eclectic Cyborg

Most of the stores around me are doing just that. Last weekend, my wife and I had to go to three different stores but we were able to get everything we needed.

I still recall the video of the woman filling up her truck with boxes of TP, when taken to task she responded “Talk to the store, they sold it to me!”

She is no less of an asshole for it, but she kinda had a point…

Glad to hear that stores are finally figuring that they will still unload all their TP, they don’t have to sell it all to the first three customers…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:06:19am

re: #385 gocart mozart

I will never get over the transformation of the name “Nimrod” from signifying a great, Biblical hunter to a dunce, all because Americans didn’t understand that Bugs Bunny was being sarcastic when he insulted Elmer Fudd.

Really, that’s like literally epic!

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:06:55am

Sweet Jesus. According to WPR, gas has dropped to between $1.49 to $.99 a gallon here in Wisconsin. That’s unreal.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:08:35am

US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study

COVID-19 could lead to more than 80,000 deaths in the US and overwhelm hospital capacity nationally as soon as early April even if social distancing measures are respected, new research showed Thursday.

[…]

Forecasters at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington’s School of Medicine analysed the latest COVID-19 data at a local, national and international level.

[…]

The analysis warned that based on current trends, demand for both would far exceed capacity for COVID-19 patients as early as the second week of April.

During the epidemic peak—also set for some point in April—as many as 2,300 patients could die every day, according to the IHME models.

This was the case even if the population adhered to strict social distancing measures.

“Our estimated trajectory of COVID-19 deaths assumes continued and uninterrupted vigilance by the general public, hospital workers, and government agencies,” said Christopher Murray, IHME director.

The trajectory of the pandemic will change—and dramatically for the worse—if people ease up on social distancing or relax with other precautions.”

[…]

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:08:53am

re: #385 gocart mozart

Because Bugs is the Trickster aspect of the Creator.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:09:26am

re: #388 William Lewis

Crude oil is currently $23 a barrel as per KItco.
kitco.com

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:10:12am

re: #379 makeitstop

Today’s winner of the Shit Take Sweepstakes is….NRO!

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He’s getting roasted in the replies, as he should.

because this is still going on:

“The White House removed a top public affairs official at the Department of Homeland Security in a move that shocked many in the department as it takes a lead role in handling the coronavirus pandemic,” Politico reports.

“Heather Swift, who was DHS’s deputy assistant secretary of public affairs, was abruptly pushed out of her position on Friday after the Presidential Personnel Office raised questions about her loyalty to President Trump.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:10:24am

Not gonna lie. I understand the economic issues with it, but cheap gas prices definitely make this pandemic more tolerable.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:11:07am

re: #389 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

US virus deaths may top 80,000 despite confinement: study

Because of China, and Trump and the GOP, we will have something that could have been dealt with early turn into “We hope only 80,000 in just the US die.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:11:17am

GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES WORK FOR OUR COUNTRY NOT FOR OUR PRESIDENT

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:11:41am

re: #385 gocart mozart

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i didnt understand what he meant by ‘maroon’ till i was a teenager

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sagehen  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:12:14am

re: #376 William Lewis

Heh. Lock yourself away and pray in private. Two or three gathered… :)

Hey VB, ask your rabbi son… does Group FaceTime qualify as a minyan?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:18:05am

re: #396 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

I will never get over the transformation of the name “Nimrod” from signifying a great, Biblical hunter to a dunce, all because Americans didn’t understand that Bugs Bunny was being sarcastic when he insulted Elmer Fudd.

Germans have a word “Tussi”, a term for a tramp or a floozy, very few know that it actually derives from “Thusnelda” the wife of Arminus, or Hermann the German, who defeated the Roman Legions in the Teutoberger Forest in the year 9AD.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:18:08am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:19:37am

Italy reports in with 6153 new cases, more than any of the past four days. Also 662 more deaths, about average over the past three days, less than yesterday but more than Saturday or Sunday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:20:37am
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cat-tikvah  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:22:01am

re: #314 Florida Panhandler

“…if the President can rise above pettiness…”

That quote alone negates the whole premise of that WSJ editorial. Asking Trump to rise above pettiness is like asking McDonalds to start serving T-bone steaks w/ fresh garlic butter sauce. It isn’t going to happen in this universe.

And would you go out of your way to buy a McSteak?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:22:42am

re: #304 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Update: still only coughing a little. We have some oxygen canisters that we ordered off of Amazon a few days ago, so if things get bad, I won’t have to burden a hospital.

Meanwhile, I see this and just have to laugh, to keep from crying:

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Take good care of yourself. And hopefully this will resolve with only bed rest at home.

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gocart mozart  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:23:20am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:24:04am

The other thing to remember when looking at case numbers and trying to tease out if there is a decrease or whatever is that it takes almost two weeks for that to show up in the numbers. More, if the testing is primarily done at hospital admission, since most people don’t have to go to the hospital on day 1 of symptoms. You want to see decreases across multiple days - I would say 3 at a minimum - to rule out the possibility that the change is just noise in the data.

It’s gonna be a while before there’s good news.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:24:25am
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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:27:44am

Good news watch (and fuck yeah!):

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:29:11am

re: #397 sagehen

Hey VB, ask your rabbi son… does Group FaceTime qualify as a minyan?

That’s an interesting question. I found this but I doubt it’s a decision that has wide authority. jpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:29:59am
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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:30:40am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:31:16am

re: #410 jaunte

That is so theologically wrong I don’t even know where to start.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:31:57am
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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:32:26am

re: #411 Eclectic Cyborg

Sounds like Wiles is trying for a pogrom.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:33:40am

re: #412 goddamnedfrank

uhhh so the scientist behind chloroquine study has very troubling record of allegedly falsifying data. I also very much regret to inform you he looks like this

We knew that the first time he released DT’s official health report…

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:34:05am

re: #359 Eclectic Cyborg

The hilarious thing is that Jesus himself said you DON’T need a whole ton of people in one place to properly worship.

Which reminded me, along with Sagehen’s question, that in the Anglican tradition an ordained priest is only required for two things - consecration of the Eucharist and absolution and even the latter can be asked for in prayer by deacons or lay persons. There is really no need to stuff people into a building like sardines except to fleece them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:34:28am

re: #413 jaunte

Sounds like Wiles is trying for a pogrom.

He just wants to snuff out the Christ Killers before the wreak any more havoc on Christendom…

/

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Kilroy was here  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:35:55am

re: #412 goddamnedfrank

Douche bag cloning…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:37:41am

Right wing media still trying to minimize Covid-19. They’re jumping on a story from the UK, where one of the modelers in the white paper that so influenced the UK’s policies so far, is now saying UK deaths may come in at only 20k.

What the hacks don’t seem to want to appreciate is that the lower estimate is based on the measures in place in the UK continuing as planned, which is a long time. Part of those plans include the significant scaling up of the treatment ability of the NHS.

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:38:23am

So, I have good news, folks. If you don’t have CBS All-Access but are a Trek fan (or looking for something to watch), then you’ll be happy to hear this:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:40:50am

Germany reports in with a large increase in new cases, their largest new case report yet.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:41:41am

re: #419 Targetpractice

I can’t wait to reunite with our cast and crew for Season 2.

Well, that’s a spoiler! I guess Picard doesn’t die in the season finale????

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:43:14am
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Kilroy was here  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:43:31am

re: #421 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well, that’s a spoiler! I guess Picard doesn’t die in the season finale????

Or does he? ….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:43:35am

re: #420 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Germany reports in with a large increase in new cases, their largest new case report yet.

Yes, it is still growing but it has taken six days to double, which is a positive trend.

19,850 cases and 68 dead on March 20 vs 41,772 and 242 today…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:44:11am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:44:14am

My twittering for the last couple days…

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:44:18am

re: #421 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well, that’s a spoiler! I guess Picard doesn’t die in the season finale????

*clears throat* They announced a second season weeks ago.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:44:46am

re: #418 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Right wing media still trying to minimize Covid-19. They’re jumping on a story from the UK, where one of the modelers in the white paper that so influenced the UK’s policies so far, is now saying UK deaths may come in at only 20k.

What the hacks don’t seem to want to appreciate is that the lower estimate is based on the measures in place in the UK continuing as planned, which is a long time. Part of those plans include the significant scaling up of the treatment ability of the NHS.

They are willfully ignoring the actual impact of the measures taken to date, and are just assuming any flattening is the natural progression of the virus. The reason we are seeing some areas beating projections is precisely because those areas shut things down—not because COVID-19 wasn’t as bad as believed. If we manage to beat expectations, watching these assholes vacillate between “We told you it was just the flu” and “Trump saved us from the Black Plague” will be something to behold. But if Trump comes out against social distancing and stay-at-home orders, as appears to be the plan, we won’t have to worry about beating projections.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:45:24am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:46:27am

re: #426 Sufficient unto the day…

The Yellowstone one makes me grind my teeth. The article was talking about research published describing activity over five years ago and completely sensationalizes it. Because of course. It’s much harder to write clickbait if you’re honest and say “nothing is really happening here beyond some lava shifts, none of which are actually concerning to the scientists.”

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:47:31am

re: #421 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well, that’s a spoiler! I guess Picard doesn’t die in the season finale????

Picard will never die. Q will take him home when the time comes.

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:47:44am

Rudy being Rudy (and regular Trumpist/GOP ignorance of basic math).

Perspective? Let’s apply that to 9/11? The consequences of the actions were what kind of reaction? Multiple wars, thousands of Americans killed in combat, 3k dead in the initial attacks, but thousands more dead of 9/11 related illnesses, trillions of dollars spent, and we botched both Iraq and Afghanistan in the process. Overreaction? Nope. Not among the right wingers who backed those wars and actions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:47:51am

re: #426 Sufficient unto the day…

Patton “No man ever won a war by dying for his country. Wars were won by making the other poor bastard die for his. You don’t win a war by dying for your country.”

The goal is to make the other bastard (SARS-CoV2) die and NOT you, that’s how you win this one.

It is one thing to send people to die in wars to secure their freedoms or protect them against tyranny.

It is another thing to let people die to protect material assets

I understand the importance of a healthy, thriving economy, but I also understand that we created the economy to serve people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:48:33am

I regret to inform you that Rush Limbaugh is still alive.

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:48:34am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:49:31am

re: #434 Eclectic Cyborg

I regret to inform you that Rush Limbaugh is still alive.

At least Francisco Franco is still dead

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:49:32am

re: #434 Eclectic Cyborg

Dang. The voodoo doll did not work. /

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sagehen  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:50:40am

re: #431 Belafon

Picard will never die. Q will take him home when the time comes.

After which Patrick Stewart will still do guest spots as a holodeck character.

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:51:44am

JHU: Italy is about to overtake China on total cases. The US is closing the gap by the hour. It’s a horse race to see what country has fucked this up the most and the US is in the clear lead (because we’re no where near controlling the spread and have insufficient lockdown in place).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:51:45am

re: #438 sagehen

After which Patrick Stewart will still do guest spots as a holodeck character.

Flashback city.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:52:15am

re: #397 sagehen

Hey VB, ask your rabbi son… does Group FaceTime qualify as a minyan?

It does not, but the obligation to pray with a minyan is suspended in a time of danger.

We don’t use electronics on Sabbath and Yom Tov, but I have seen pleas from people who live alone and don’t want to be at seder by themselves. Normally they would attend a community seder or be invited to join another family. Some Reform and Conservative congregations are setting up live streams for people to join in at home.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:52:26am

re: #411 Eclectic Cyborg

That is so theologically wrong I don’t even know where to start.

Crackpot
Treat accordingly

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:53:04am

re: #429 jaunte

Language that was agreed upon, but the GOP tried to not include in the final bil.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:53:47am

God directed Akufo-Addo to institute mandatory quarantine policy - Prof. Mike Ocquaye

The Speaker of Parliament, Professor Aaron Mike Ocquaye has disclosed that the mandatory quarantine measures announced by President Akufo-Addo last week was a directive from God.

And who can argue with God, eh?

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Kilroy was here  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:54:10am

Broke 500k and 23,000 dead worldwide….

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:54:35am

re: #415 William Lewis

Which reminded me, along with Sagehen’s question, that in the Anglican tradition an ordained priest is only required for two things - consecration of the Eucharist and absolution and even the latter can be asked for in prayer by deacons or lay persons. There is really no need to stuff people into a building like sardines except to fleece them.

Fleecing sardines?now theres a mixed metaphor

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Dr. Matt  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:54:55am

re: #434 Eclectic Cyborg

I regret to inform you that Rush Limbaugh is still alive.

Morally he’s been decade for decades.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:58:49am
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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 10:59:39am

re: #441 The Pie Overlord!

It does not, but the obligation to pray with a minyan is suspended in a time of danger.

We don’t use electronics on Sabbath and Yom Tov, but I have seen pleas from people who live alone and don’t want to be at seder by themselves. Normally they would attend a community seder or be invited to join another family. Some Reform and Conservative congregations are setting up live streams for people to join in at home.

We have congregations that set things up on a timer so that they don’t have to do anything else (like Shobbos elevators that stop on all floors automatically without any buttons to press).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:00:17am

re: #388 William Lewis

Sweet Jesus. According to WPR, gas has dropped to between $1.49 to $.99 a gallon here in Wisconsin. That’s unreal.

Sure but who needs it? (which is why it is so cheap.)

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:00:32am

re: #432 lawhawk

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Rudy being Rudy (and regular Trumpist/GOP ignorance of basic math).

Perspective? Let’s apply that to 9/11? The consequences of the actions were what kind of reaction? Multiple wars, thousands of Americans killed in combat, 3k dead in the initial attacks, but thousands more dead of 9/11 related illnesses, trillions of dollars spent, and we botched both Iraq and Afghanistan in the process. Overreaction? Nope. Not among the right wingers who backed those wars and actions.

The second part of the question is *why* do they die

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:01:17am

re: #394 Belafon

Because of China, and Trump and the GOP, we will have something that could have been dealt with early turn into “We hope only 80,000 in just the US die.

This!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:03:27am

re: #448 The Pie Overlord!

NBC, CNN and others say they will likely stop broadcasting DonaldTrump virus briefings. This is truly sick in the time of national emergency and once again tells you everything you need to know about the MSM.

Remember “It’s a hoax!”, “It will just go away”, “Anyone who needs a test can get one” and “Warmer weather will kill it”?

They are protecting us from disinformation.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:05:34am

In which National Racists Online prove, once again, by what they picked for their headline, that they’ve earned the moniker I give them:

Fauci: Italy ‘Hit Very Badly’ By Coronavirus Due to Prevalence of Chinese Tourists

Fauci spoke much, but NRO picked one sentence to run as a headline.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:09:33am

re: #423 Kilroy was here

Or does he? ….

Well, Star Wars has Force Ghosts, so why not some weird sub-space time-traveling Trek Ghost for next season? All it takes is a bit of techno-babble.
//

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:11:14am

re: #429 jaunte

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Odd it was that particular clause subject to “clerical error”.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:11:40am
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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:11:44am

If someone argues that people should return to work soon, show them that even economists think it’s better to get it right the first time than to try to rush things: cnn.com.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:11:47am

re: #448 The Pie Overlord!

the only thing informational about these rally briefings is when he finally gets bored and wanders off, leaving Fauci to provide the real information.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:12:51am

re: #458 Belafon

If someone argues that people should return to work soon, show them that even economists think it’s better to get it right the first time than to try to rush things: cnn.com.

Who cares what the doctors economists think!

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Kilroy was here  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:14:03am

re: #455 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Well, Star Wars has Force Ghosts, so why not some weird sub-space time-traveling Trek Ghost for next season? All it takes is a bit of techno-babble.
//

Oh, I won’t spoil the “surprise”.
(I am so looking forward to The Orville season 3)..

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:16:33am

There are a bunch of useful graphics in that story - including tests run, per capita tests; total cases, and per capita cases for a bunch of states.

It’s grim for NJ. We aren’t getting enough testing, and that has serious consequences.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:16:57am

re: #455 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Well, Star Wars has Force Ghosts, so why not some weird sub-space time-traveling Trek Ghost for next season? All it takes is a bit of techno-babble.
//

If there’s one thing I learned from watching Star Trek is that you can solve nearly any problem by calibrating the polarity of the verteron pulse and sending it through the deflector shield array to create an inverse gravitational singularity…

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:17:47am

Just back from from shopping, mostly uneventful, got most of what I needed.

In Petsmart they have blue tape marked out at the cash register to keep ample social distancing space between customers. Seems a little excessive, but obviously can’t be too careful. Better to be over-reacting at this point.

At Giant grocery they had the plexiglass up at the cash register.

Other than that, the stores were mostly empty of shoppers. But I found myself feeling anxious whenever the narrow aisles put someone too close to me.

So I think I’ll continue to make my shopping expeditions as seldom as possible.

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lawhawk  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:18:02am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Tacyon pulses. And reverse the positronic matrix.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:18:11am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If there’s one thing I learned from Star Trek is that you can solve nearly any problem by calibrating the polarity of the verteron pulse and sending it through the deflector shield to create an inverse gravitational singularity…

Does it work on viruses?

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gwangung  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:18:29am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If there’s one thing I learned from Star Trek is that you can solve nearly any problem by calibrating the polarity of the verteron pulse and sending it through the deflector shield to create an inverse gravitational singularity…

Make it so!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:18:51am

re: #466 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Does it work on viruses?

I don’t know why Trump has not proposed it at this point.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:19:00am

re: #443 Belafon

Language that was agreed upon, but the GOP tried to not include in the final bil.

And if anyone thinks that was an oversight, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:19:39am

re: #464 Sir John Barron

They have that at my local Acme. I went this morning. Except for Lysol and Rye Bread I got almost everything I had on my list.

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Teddy's Person  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:20:22am

Question for golfers. What is your opinion on indoor putting greens? I’m trying to keep my dad (mid 80s) entertained from the other side of the country. I’m west coast. He’s east coast. He took up golf in his retirement, and I’m thinking of sending him an indoor putting green. What say the golfing lizards?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:20:45am

re: #469 Hecuba’s daughter

And if anyone thinks that was an oversight, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you!

I suspect it was a distraction to slip in language to make it easier for them to set up shell companies to hide where a lot of that money is going to wind up. Trump cannot let his companies go bankrupt while he is still in office…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:21:07am

Hmm. Another urgent email from the apartment company.

Township is having issues from people flushing disposable wipes, paper towels, etc. down the toilets.

Don’t Flush Sodium Down The Toilet

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:22:43am

re: #466 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Does it work on viruses?

All but the ones that make you devolve into earlier lifeforms.

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teleskiguy  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:22:56am
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steve_davis  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:22:59am

re: #213 Sir John Barron

so do any of you have masks? I just ordered some, which should arrive next week. Most are at least a month back ordered.

I do have some latex gloves from when I was administering a medication to one of my cats a few years back and the vet recommended I use them when handling the medication.

you don’t need a mask unless you are infected, or you are caring for someone who is infected. otherwise, they’re useless.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:25:19am

re: #476 steve_davis

you don’t need a mask unless you are infected, or you are caring for someone who is infected. otherwise, they’re useless.

My concern is not for myself, only that I saw on the news that one takeout service was requiring that customers wear both masks and gloves.

Hopefully that approach won’t catch on.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:27:25am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:27:48am

re: #476 steve_davis

you don’t need a mask unless you are infected, or you are caring for someone who is infected. otherwise, they’re useless.

I wouldn’t say that they’re useless but more that it is about putting limited supplies to the greatest good right now, hence the CDC instructions along those lines.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:28:52am

Look for Fox News hosts and conspiracy theorists to claim that people were deliberately getting sick from OTHER THINGS and trying to make it look like they did from COVID-19 just to make Trump look bad …

If true, this would show a helluva lot of commitment to the cause.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:28:52am

I hope at the next campaign rally briefing at least one of the reporters will ask his majesty where the Google website is and where the Walgreens, CVS drive-thru testing stations are.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:29:00am

re: #471 Teddy’s Person

Question for golfers. What is your opinion on indoor putting greens? I’m trying to keep my dad (mid 80s) entertained from the other side of the country. I’m west coast. He’s east coast. He took up golf in his retirement, and I’m thinking of sending him an indoor putting green. What say the golfing lizards?

It’s going to be pretty much that you get what you pay for. I haven’t golfed in a number of years, but had a cheap one. It was little more than a 3’ wide, 12’ long length of very thin short grain material leading to a foam raised area (about 3’ x 2’) that had the hole to aim for. I got better practice in my opinion putting at a cup on the carpet most of the time since it provided better variety.

There was an additional challenge as well that I did not find on the golf course.

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garzooma  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:29:35am

re: #454 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In which National Racists Online prove, once again, by what they picked for their headline, that they’ve earned the moniker I give them:

Fauci: Italy ‘Hit Very Badly’ By Coronavirus Due to Prevalence of Chinese Tourists

Fauci spoke much, but NRO picked one sentence to run as a headline.

Also, Fauci is plain wrong. Italy didn’t have open borders, and put in restrictions before the US did. from WaPo:

Fauci is wrong: Italy did close its border to China

“Our shutting off travel from China and, more recently, travel from Europe, has gone a long way to not seeding very, very intensively the virus in our country. Unfortunately, Italy did not do that. They had an open border, they let people in.”

[…]
The Facts

On Jan. 30, the World Health Organization declared a global health emergency because of the rapid spread of the coronavirus. […]
Italy’s prime minister took immediate action, declaring a state of emergency and announcing a ban effective Jan. 31 on all flights to and from China to Italy, with no exceptions. He announced this step even though the WHO advisory recommended against travel restrictions. The ban on flights also extended to Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan. The announcement added that anyone on a flight to Italy would face health checks upon arrival. […]

Sadly, it looks like Fauci has been contaminated.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:30:30am

re: #432 lawhawk

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Rudy being Rudy (and regular Trumpist/GOP ignorance of basic math).

Perspective? Let’s apply that to 9/11? The consequences of the actions were what kind of reaction? Multiple wars, thousands of Americans killed in combat, 3k dead in the initial attacks, but thousands more dead of 9/11 related illnesses, trillions of dollars spent, and we botched both Iraq and Afghanistan in the process. Overreaction? Nope. Not among the right wingers who backed those wars and actions.

Or let’s go the other way—since people die and shit happens, let’s remove every safety feature on all cars. Let’s take down all traffic signs and traffic lights. Remove all warnings on drugs and the like. Fuck, I mean just die, right? So let’s not do anything to prevent deaths.

I mean if we can’t protect everyone, might as well not protect anyone, amirite?

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:30:45am

re: #478 Dread Pirate

I caught some of that on the news. Testing all 7k Roosevelt crew members, because there is no such thing as social distancing on a carrier.

I also saw that Fort Campbell will be sending medical personel to NYC to help the city.

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calochortus  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:33:15am

re: #481 Sir John Barron

I hope at the next campaign rally briefing at least one of the reporters will ask his majesty where the Google website is and where the Walgreens, CVS drive-thru testing stations are.

I believe the Google website (Verily) is actually operational in 4 California counties, but there are issues ranging from privacy to who they are sending for tests.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:36:13am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:36:44am

re: #478 Dread Pirate

To squeeze more troops into the gym, Navy medical professionals recommended measuring the six-foot distance per guidance from the CDC from the center of the bed rather than from the outer edges, meaning, that the beds are actually 3-feet apart. The CDC also suggests avoiding mass gatherings as a part of its social distancing guidelines.

JFC.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:37:30am

France reports in with 385 more deaths, the most they’ve reported in a day so far. Also, their new cases was the highest in a single day yet.

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gocart mozart  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:38:16am

I posted this thread yesterday and there has been a confirmation by corporate. Triscuits are indeed “electricity buscuits”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:38:28am

re: #489 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

France reports in with 385 more deaths, the most they’ve reported in a day so far. Also, their new cases was the highest in a single day yet.

This really is going to be a long year.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:39:36am

re: #456 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Odd it was that particular clause subject to “clerical error”.

We are learning, if we didn’t already know, that Republicans are thieves who will raid the common Treasury any second they’re not watched.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:42:39am

re: #491 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This really is going to be a long year.

What makes me really freak is when I extrapolate out from now, to what things will be like if this really peaks in late June, with ~100,000 deaths/day.

For those saying those kinds of numbers are science fiction, well, when we look at predictions of 2.2 million, to get to that level, we’d need 22 days of 100K/day.

What does that actually look like in the U.S.? Basically, all the worst parts of all the dystopian movies.

And that’s not even the worst-worse case, which is 8.8 million deaths.

Christ, I need a drink.

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Teddy's Person  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:42:46am

re: #482 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It’s going to be pretty much that you get what you pay for. I haven’t golfed in a number of years, but had a cheap one. It was little more than a 3’ wide, 12’ long length of very thin short grain material leading to a foam raised area (about 3’ x 2’) that had the hole to aim for. I got better practice in my opinion putting at a cup on the carpet most of the time since it provided better variety.

There was an additional challenge as well that I did not find on the golf course.

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You mean I have to send him a cat too.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:43:02am

re: #491 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This really is going to be a long year.

UK also reports a daily case increase significantly larger than before. And daily deaths broke a hundred, at 113.

Yes, it will be a very long year.

And with Trump ranting every day, it may become unbearable.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:43:52am

re: #489 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

France reports in with 385 more deaths, the most they’ve reported in a day so far. Also, their new cases was the highest in a single day yet.

Pretty sure Italy saw an uptick in new deaths versus the last couple of days. Not sure where it compares to the peak. I think their new cases went up versus yesterday, but still down from the peak (I think).

Meanwhile, by tomorrow, we will likely have the most reported cases in the world, and we still have FAR too many populated areas where not enough is being done, whether it be testing or stay at home directives.

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calochortus  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:44:07am

re: #494 Teddy’s Person

You mean I have to send him a cat too.

Seems reasonable.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:44:19am

re: #491 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This really is going to be a long year.

What year is it? 2020 was like 5 years ago, right?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:44:32am

re: #493 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

What makes me really freak is when I extrapolate out from now, to what things will be like if this really peaks in late June, with ~100,000 deaths/day.

For those saying those kinds of numbers are science fiction, well, when we look at predictions of 2.2 million, to get to that level, we’d need 22 days of 100K/day.

What does that actually look like in the U.S.? Basically, all the worst parts of all the dystopian movies.

And that’s not even the worst-worse case, which is 8.8 million deaths.

Christ, I need a drink.

I don’t want to know. I’m scared. And I haven’t even known of anyone I personally know who has gotten sick yet. But it’s why Trump is more infuriating by the minute because he’s so ignorant.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:46:12am

re: #494 Teddy’s Person

You mean I have to send him a cat too.

Did you say he doesn’t have one yet? What kind of horrible offspring are you?
501
Mike Lamb  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:47:09am

re: #493 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

What makes me really freak is when I extrapolate out from now, to what things will be like if this really peaks in late June, with ~100,000 deaths/day.

For those saying those kinds of numbers are science fiction, well, when we look at predictions of 2.2 million, to get to that level, we’d need 22 days of 100K/day.

What does that actually look like in the U.S.? Basically, all the worst parts of all the dystopian movies.

And that’s not even the worst-worse case, which is 8.8 million deaths.

Christ, I need a drink.

If we were space marines checking in on a mining planet that had lost contact with Earth and coronavirus were aliens, then Trump would be the Paul Reiser character trying to take some back in order to get the corporate economy going again.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:47:57am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:51:30am

re: #501 Mike Lamb

If we were space marines checking in on a mining planet that had lost contact with Earth and coronavirus were aliens, then Trump would be the Paul Reiser character trying to take some back to Earth in order to get the corporate economy going again.

Trump’s the kind of guy who if he saw that Dr. Jonas Salk refused to patent the polio vaccine would call him a loser.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:52:16am

re: #502 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Man’s best friend’s best friend.

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makeitstop  Mar 26, 2020 • 11:55:09am

re: #498 Mike Lamb

What year is it? 2020 was like 5 years ago, right?

Hell, I’m having problems keeping track of what day it is.

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lizardofid  Mar 26, 2020 • 12:01:35pm

re: #488 Eclectic Cyborg

To squeeze more troops into the gym, Navy medical professionals recommended measuring the six-foot distance per guidance from the CDC from the center of the bed rather than from the outer edges, meaning, that the beds are actually 3-feet apart. The CDC also suggests avoiding mass gatherings as a part of its social distancing guidelines.

JFC.

Military Intelligence.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 26, 2020 • 12:18:35pm

re: #493 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

What makes me really freak is when I extrapolate out from now, to what things will be like if this really peaks in late June, with ~100,000 deaths/day.

For those saying those kinds of numbers are science fiction, well, when we look at predictions of 2.2 million, to get to that level, we’d need 22 days of 100K/day.

What does that actually look like in the U.S.? Basically, all the worst parts of all the dystopian movies.

And that’s not even the worst-worse case, which is 8.8 million deaths.

Christ, I need a drink.

Terrible as that sounds, it is ultimately unlikely. Even Italy, the hardest hit area we know of, levelled off its death doubling rate from 3 days to about 6 days once it hit 2-3k deaths. Perhaps that’s social distancing coming into effect, or perhaps it’s just a result of modern medicine ultimately finding a way to cope with the burden once the sickest are gone. There may, of course, also be another uptick in the rate as healthcare itself starts to fail, from casualties among workers and even extreme measures not being enough.

Glad to hear you’re still doing well.

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sagehen  Mar 26, 2020 • 12:22:22pm

re: #484 Mike Lamb

Or let’s go the other way—since people die and shit happens, let’s remove every safety feature on all cars. Let’s take down all traffic signs and traffic lights. Remove all warnings on drugs and the like. Fuck, I mean just die, right? So let’s not do anything to prevent deaths.

I mean if we can’t protect everyone, might as well not protect anyone, amirite?

Our lives should be as nature intended — nasty, brutish and short.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 26, 2020 • 1:50:40pm

re: #423 Kilroy was here

Or does he? ….

Now that all depends on how you define ‘life’…..

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:35:15pm

re: #354 Eclectic Cyborg

Speaking of Kenny Rogers, my biggest memory related to him is rather odd. When I was young I used to have to go to the Childrens Hospital across town every few months or so to see a couple of specialists for ongoing conditions that I had.

It just so happened there was a Kenny Rogers Roasters restaurant about two minutes away from the hospital and it was one of the only restaurants in the immediate area.

My parents knew I didn’t enjoy the appointments so they’d sell me on going by promising we could get food at Roasters after my appointment. As I recall, the food there wasn’t half bad.

My parents and I also had a favorite place to go after my many appointments when I was young. After we spent all day at Pittsburgh Children’s Hospital we would stop at Johnny Garneau’s on the way home most times. I loved that place.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2020 • 2:50:26pm

re: #399 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder if the term “fucking twit” came out of the queen mother’s mouth.


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