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Dave In Austin  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:14:55am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:18:16am

What would you rather watch instead of Trump’s daily bullshitting?

He’ll I’d even prefer watching Jandek…

Jandek Rehearsing: Excerpt from I Know You Well documentary

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:19:23am

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

What would you rather watch instead of Trump’s daily bullshitting?

He’ll I’d even prefer watching Jandek…

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The Overwatch League has figured out how to host their matches safely in isolation, so it’s game on this weekend.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:22:17am

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

What would you rather watch instead of Trump’s daily bullshitting?

He’ll I’d even prefer watching Jandek…

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MST3K.

“They’re dying in America…TODAY!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:24:51am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:25:40am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That tub o’rancid lard can’t die soon enough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:26:18am
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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:26:44am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why does Rush believe the doctors who tell him he has cancer?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:27:59am

re: #8 Belafon

Why does Rush believe the doctors who tell him he has cancer?

I’m sure that Trump’s Pulpit Pimp Pals have anointed Rush with oil and laid hands on him for divine healing…

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:29:08am

Worked last night, slept a couple of hours and now wide awake again. Did my groceries for however long. Some chicken, canadian bacon, taters, clam strip, corn dogs, beer and a liter of insanely cheap rum ($8.99/liter) so I’ll probably have to grog it rather than my preference for neat sipping. Still have a couple of dollars in the bank to get bread and eggs later. That’s not doing too bad.

The store itself was busier than I’d have prefered but people were trying to stay apart. Only big empty shelves were TP & eggs.

Now a baloney sammich, some chips and back to bed since I have the over night shift again tonight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:29:46am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:31:02am

re: #10 William Lewis

Good luck and stay in touch, my friend.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:31:32am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh you mean like assholes who own hotels and live in them in both FL and NY?

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calochortus  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:32:20am

re: #9 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m sure that Trump’s Pulpit Pimp Pals have anointed Rush with oil and laid hands on him for divine healing…

I believe Rush is also getting some new drug (with some serious side effects,) so he’s also using his money and privilege to get the very best treatment.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:32:44am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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why cant we make this stuff up?
He is.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:36:19am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sounds like that cancer has spread to his frontal lobes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:36:21am

re: #15 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

why cant we make this stuff up?
He is.

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wondering what states all those spring break kids took the virus back to?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:36:45am

France reports their highest daily new cases.

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NetworkKed  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:37:21am

So I listened to Rush back in the summer of… 98? Maybe it was 99. It was the only radio station I could get in the afternoon in that building.

I disagreed with him then, but he could run a show and he wasn’t utterly evil. But he was happy to demonize opponents and ascribe ugly motives whenever possible.

I dunno, maybe it was 9-11, maybe it was just a slow slide through the first five years of the new century, but somewhere along the way he’s bought fully into the doctrine that yelling what you want loud enough will make it true. I genuinely don’t understand anymore if the people acting in this mode really believe the things they’re saying or if it’s all calculated.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:37:29am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

wondering what states all those spring break kids took the virus back to?

Funny you should ask…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:37:31am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

wondering what states all those spring break kids took the virus back to?

This is all about payback to NY for investigating his finances.

What a sick f*ck.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:38:06am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

More proof he’s listening to a few people, including Florida’s governor.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:38:29am

re: #22 Belafon

More proof he’s listening to a few people, including Florida’s governor.

Like always, he listens to the people who tell him what he wants to hear.

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lizardofid  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:39:33am

re: #19 NetworkKed

So I listened to Rush back in the summer of… 98? Maybe it was 99. It was the only radio station I could get in the afternoon in that building.

I disagreed with him then, but he could run a show and he wasn’t utterly evil. But he was happy to demonize opponents and ascribe ugly motives whenever possible.

I dunno, maybe it was 9-11, maybe it was just a slow slide through the first five years of the new century, but somewhere along the way he’s bought fully into the doctrine that yelling what you want loud enough will make it true. I genuinely don’t understand anymore if the people acting in this mode really believe the things they’re saying or if it’s all calculated.

Sometimes, you just want to sell a butt-load of Snapple. ; )

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calochortus  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:39:45am

re: #19 NetworkKed

I listened to Rush occasionally when he first became really popular. IMHO he didn’t have enough material to really keep a show going-it was repetitive and therefore boring. I suppose it was OK if listeners just wanted their opinions reinforced.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:40:43am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:41:13am

re: #25 calochortus

I listened to Rush occasionally when he first became really popular. IMHO he didn’t have enough material to really keep a show going-it was repetitive and therefore boring. I suppose it was OK if listeners just wanted their opinions reinforced.

Which is 96% of his audience.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:42:51am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:44:05am

A random funny tweet I ran into…somehow

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calochortus  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:44:58am

Last night I woke up around 5 a.m. and listened to public radio for half an hour or so. Someone was saying that based on somewhat limited information, after the 1918-19 flu epidemic the cities that had been more shut down during the epidemic rebounded faster economically than did the ones who kept up more economic activity during that time.

The reason I mention that this was me listening at 5 a.m. is that I can’t possibly provide you with any sort of source for this info. as I was lulling myself back to sleep with the “white noise” of talking.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:47:06am

re: #30 calochortus

They rebounded faster because they has a healthier population.

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calochortus  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:49:03am

re: #31 PhillyPretzel

They rebounded faster because they has a healthier population.

Could be. Interestingly, the places that really clamped down and had infection rates fall quickly were more likely to have a second wave because not enough people were immune. I don’t know what the respective death rates were though.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:50:06am

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Imagine my surprise that Donny thinks the source for FL’s current predicament is not the governor who makes the mayor from Jaws look reasonable, but rather people traveling there from NY.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:50:15am

re: #32 calochortus

Could be. Interestingly, the places that really clamped down and had infection rates fall quickly were more likely to have a second wave because not enough people were immune. I don’t know what the respective death rates were though.

Which is why, as my dad keeps saying, we’re going to have to prepare for a second wave this fall.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:52:10am

re: #30 calochortus

Currently, Louisiana has about twice as many deaths as here in California. Yes, it has to do with Mardi Gras. But that was in February, and Covid-19 was on the radar in the disease community but Trump ignored it… and it appears Louisiana wasn’t paying attention either.

New Orleans hospitals will be overwhelmed before many other places. Florida will be overwhelmed before many other states. And it’s not NY’s fault.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:52:27am

re: #34 Belafon

Which is why, as my dad keeps saying, we’re going to have to prepare for a second wave this fall.

It won’t be until we have a vaccine that we will be protected. However, if we flatten the curve for now, it gives us the opportunity to produce enough equipment for the second wave that hits. Assuming, we do the right thing and continue to manufacture for handling the worst case scenario.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:54:08am

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

Plus I think we have hope for a Tamiflu like solution especially once one can get tested fast. By the second wave I mean…

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:56:21am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:56:54am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:57:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:57:46am
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:57:50am

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

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I’m sorry, no, I absolutely fucking refuse to believe that this change is unrelated to Trump’s desire to end social distancing.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:57:53am

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

Oh wonderful. Now in addition to latex gloves I carry to the Acme I will be now carrying a mask. That will spook the neighbors.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:59:13am

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

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And the CDC is providing these masks?

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Mescalero09  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:59:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:01:10pm

re: #19 NetworkKed

So I listened to Rush back in the summer of… 98? Maybe it was 99. It was the only radio station I could get in the afternoon in that building.

I disagreed with him then, but he could run a show and he wasn’t utterly evil. But he was happy to demonize opponents and ascribe ugly motives whenever possible.

He used to run on AFN and I would listen on occasion just to hear what the latest RW talking points were.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:01:58pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:03:39pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:03:48pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

It won’t be until we have a vaccine that we will be protected. However, if we flatten the curve for now, it gives us the opportunity to produce enough equipment for the second wave that hits. Assuming, we do the right thing and continue to manufacture for handling the worst case scenario.

we cannot not eradicate it without a vaccine (which will have to be mandatory for all) and/or a treatment (which should be denied to those who still refuse the vaccine)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:03:57pm
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Mescalero09  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:04:26pm

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:04:58pm

Turns out that the patient that my daughter treated now suspected of having covid19, was the one where she had the proper gear on in the picture I sent earlier (I need Indian Food - which she didn’t get by the way). Shortages in PPE continue.

Fuck Trump.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:05:07pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

It won’t be until we have a vaccine that we will be protected. However, if we flatten the curve for now, it gives us the opportunity to produce enough equipment for the second wave that hits. Assuming, we do the right thing and continue to manufacture for handling the worst case scenario.

It also means another round of closures.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:06:03pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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From the puddle-deep thinkers who tell you that cars should be outlawed because more people die from them than guns every year.

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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:06:09pm

Finally scored some paper towel via Costco delivery.

Still no TP to be found.

We haven’t run out, but am hoping we can replenish soon.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:06:30pm
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stpaulbear  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:06:58pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

What would you rather watch instead of Trump’s daily bullshitting?

The Sgt. Pepper movie with Peter Frampton and the Bee Gees.

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:07:53pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Imagine my surprise that Donny thinks the source for FL’s current predicament is not the governor who makes the mayor from Jaws look reasonable, but rather people traveling there from NY.

We’re the scapegoat.

I talked to my wingnut sister the other day. Big Fox/OANN viewer, gets all of her opinions from her church. She told me the virus is spreading because ‘people from New York are going to all these other places and infecting them.’ Seriously.

I’m preparing to hear a lot of that in the coming weeks - that evil New Yorkers and their sinful ways are the cause of all the death that is coming to every state in the union.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:08:12pm

re: #53 Belafon

It also means another round of closures.

And if you think businesses are freaking out now, they don’t call the day after Thanksgiving “Black Friday” because the sun doesn’t rise on that day.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:08:43pm
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calochortus  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:09:11pm

re: #53 Belafon

It also means another round of closures.

I’m hoping we can get out a bit again in a few weeks. What would be best is if people could manage to behave themselves and not go out en masse once the stay home order is lifted.

I’m hoping we can shop in a few weeks and take a little trip this summer. That’s if things quiet down with the warmer weather. I’d be pretty willing to lock myself up again for a while in the Fall, especially if we can then get vaccines to medical and emergency people.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:10:01pm

re: #3 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Overwatch League has figured out how to host their matches safely in isolation, so it’s game on this weekend.

Minus a few teams, because apparently despite plenty of warning that this was coming, the fact that they cannot play from their practice facility because of shelter in place is an issue. -_-

I caught part of SHD/GHZ last night, which was …a bit of a roflstomp on Shanghai’s part. Didn’t stay up to finish it.

I am running out of hope that my Shock homestand tickets will actually be used, but I still want to believe!

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:10:55pm

re: #57 stpaulbear

The Sgt. Pepper movie with Peter Frampton and the Bee Gees.

Xanadu.

Xanadu HD Trailer

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:14:45pm

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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I hope Eva Braun Candace Owens DOES go outside and socialize. That anti-Semite needs to get a dose of Karmic retribution for the lies she’s spread.

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Mattand  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:14:57pm

re: #3 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Overwatch League has figured out how to host their matches safely in isolation, so it’s game on this weekend.

If there was a Team Fortress 2 pro league, I’m convinced I’d be one of the greatest Medics ever.

I also get the feeling that in the Overwatch era, playing TF2 is tantamount to running around pushing a hoop with a stick.

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Alephnaught  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:15:18pm

Someone posted on the last thread Janey Godley’s overdub of First Minister Nichola Sturgeon’s announcerment of lockdown measures in Scotland on March 22nd.

What you might not know is that Nichola Sturgeon herself approvingly replied to this tweet, albiet with caveats…

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:15:25pm

I just found out that the guitar player for one of the bands I sub in with has died from COVID. I never met him because he was the guy I was subbing for when I played with them, but it’s pretty saddening to know that our community lost a fine player to this disease.

It’s hitting home now. This sucks.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:16:24pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:17:08pm

re: #58 makeitstop

I’m preparing to hear a lot of that in the coming weeks - that evil New Yorkers and their sinful ways are the cause of all the death that is coming to every state in the union.

Because when they start turning patients away in Red States, it will be the fault of New York Jews and Intellectuals who came licking doorknobs…

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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:17:08pm

re: #63 Dr Lizardo

Xanadu is one of two movies I walked out of. Just unfuckingwatchable. :D

But I would watch it over Plump any damn day.

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:19:35pm
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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:21:17pm

re: #71 makeitstop

LOVE this band!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:21:22pm

re: #70 plansbandc

Xanadu is one of two movies I walked out of. Just unfuckingwatchable. :D

But I would watch it over Plump any damn day.

I walked out of The Last Woman with Gerard Depardieu; good thing, especially when I found out that in the final scene he castrates himself with an electric knife…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:22:03pm

re: #70 plansbandc

Xanadu is one of two movies I walked out of. Just unfuckingwatchable. :D

But I would watch it over Plump any damn day.

Yeah, Xanadu was a trainwreck. I suppose it does have some camp value, as a window into a now (best) forgotten era. Seriously, you gotta wonder who thought it’d be a great idea to make a musical about a roller disco. In 1980. Disco was pretty much dead at that point….it peaked around the time of Saturday Night Fever and went into a terminal decline not long after that film was released in ‘77.

I suspect a helluva lot of cocaine was involved in the pitch meeting for Xanadu.

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Mattand  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:22:41pm

Pulling it back to music for a second:

Finally got around to watching the John Fogerty clip from a few posts back. Amazing that he still has it.

Charles pointed out that Fogerty is still performing the songs in their original keys. I learned to play Bad Moon Rising in D (D-G-A) going off the record. In the video, it looks like he’s playing in E (E-A-B).

I have tablature for Fortunate Son, and it says to tune the whole guitar down one step to D, resulting in different chord shapes. I was wondering if that is something Fogerty has done his whole career and did that somehow make singing easier on his vocal chords.

Now that I’m typing it out, maybe not, since you have to hit those notes anyway. Charles or any other musicians have insight on that?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:23:49pm

re: #34 Belafon

Which is why, as my dad keeps saying, we’re going to have to prepare for
a second wave this fall.

i’m not particularly concerned with another societal wave -other than as a member of the community / planet

i’m worried about a population of two people who are not me
this is the new normal

once ‘under control’ it’s not gonna disappear
uninfected vulnerable people will still be just as vulnerable
how can i ever let my guard down if my wife is immuno and my mom is 91?

to stay healthy and safe, the precautions we’re taking can’t go away:
- infrequent / limited shopping
- constant hand washing
- social distancing
- disinfecting everything that comes into your house
- not traveling

some maybe could be relaxed a bit. (some aspects of distancing, some travel)

but until there is a true and effective vaccine, for anyone who hasn’t had it, absolutely nothing has changed:

- anyone can contract it, anywhere, anytime
- anyone can survive it
- anyone can die from it

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:24:42pm

re: #72 plansbandc

LOVE this band!!

They are so good. They’re heroes in Brooklyn, kinda not noticed anywhere else.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:24:45pm
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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:24:51pm

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because when they start turning patients away in Red States, it will be the fault of New York Jews and Intellectuals who came licking doorknobs…

This makes me think of when someone asked who started the war in “The Day After.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:25:25pm
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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:27:57pm

I should have walked out of “Can’t Stop The Music” because it is truly hideous, but my friend hated it SO much more than I did and it was hilarious watching her suffer through it, so…

Mean, yep. Funny as hell though.

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NetworkKed  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:28:02pm

Yeah, hooray for esports - without which there’d be no sports at all.

CSGO has more or less continued with their various league play as normal.
League of Legends dropped a week in most countries to retool for remote play, and are mostly back to normal.
Good to hear about Overwatch, though I get motion-sick and don’t like the point-capture modes at all. Activision’s other esport league - Call of Duty - hasn’t quite put a schedule back together though it ought to be possible.
DOTA events are running, of course, and I saw some Rocket League the other night.

If you’re new to esports and want something competitive to watch today, I’d suggest:
LoL NALCS in a couple of hours at twitch.tv
League is similar to DOTA - fantasy battle games that mix complex strategy and expert clicking. They’ve put together a cohesively professional presentation that is a lot of fun to watch.
CounterStrike is the grand old man of competitive esport. First-person shooting mixed with situational tactics in a well-established and managed game. You can always get some at twitch.tv and there are other worthwhile leagues.
There’s a lot of races of well-established games in the SpeedGaming channels. A good place to start today might be a Zelda LttP rando race at twitch.tv
And then there’s the truly crazy stuff that bubbles up from the amateur scene - one of my favorites is twitch.tv where the Kusogrande tournament is getting into full swing.

Those are all Twitch links. Twitch gets a bad rep, but mostly it’s just the chat in the larger channels that is toxic. If you don’t like the chat, just hide it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:28:42pm

The economy is not just going to re-boot when Trump declares it over: people are going to stay away in large numbers from crowded public events, movie theaters, festivals, cruises, etc., even if they are allowed.

And when waves of COVID hit various companies, their operations will be impaired or disrupted, which will not allow for the ruthlessly optima efficiency that our modern economy demands.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:28:52pm

re: #58 makeitstop

We’re the scapegoat.

I talked to my wingnut sister the other day. Big Fox/OANN viewer, gets all of her opinions from her church. She told me the virus is spreading because ‘people from New York are going to all these other places and infecting them.’ Seriously.

I’m preparing to hear a lot of that in the coming weeks - that evil New Yorkers and their sinful ways are the cause of all the death that is coming to every state in the union.

unprovable crackpot bullshit
their stock in trade

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:29:25pm

re: #75 Mattand

Pulling it back to music for a second:

Finally got around to watching the John Fogerty clip from a few posts back. Amazing that he still has it.

Charles pointed out that Fogerty is still performing the songs in their original keys. I learned to play Bad Moon Rising in D (D-G-A) going off the record. In the video, it looks like he’s playing in E (E-A-B).

I have tablature for Fortunate Son, and it says to tune the whole guitar down one step to D, resulting in different chord shapes. I was wondering if that is something Fogerty has done his whole career and did that somehow make singing easier on his vocal chords.

Now that I’m typing it out, maybe not, since you have to hit those notes anyway. Charles or any other musicians have insight on that?

He could have tuned down in order to be able to play ‘cowboy chords’ and still be in the right key for the song. He’d still be singing it in the original key, though.

Tuning down makes the guitar sound deeper as well.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:30:45pm

re: #75 Mattand

Pulling it back to music for a second:

Finally got around to watching the John Fogerty clip from a few posts back. Amazing that he still has it.

Charles pointed out that Fogerty is still performing the songs in their original keys. I learned to play Bad Moon Rising in D (D-G-A) going off the record. In the video, it looks like he’s playing in E (E-A-B).

I have tablature for Fortunate Son, and it says to tune the whole guitar down one step to D, resulting in different chord shapes. I was wondering if that is something Fogerty has done his whole career and did that somehow make singing easier on his vocal chords.

Now that I’m typing it out, maybe not, since you have to hit those notes anyway. Charles or any other musicians have insight on that?

I don’t think that matters for singing, but it does make the string tension lighter so it would be slightly easier to play, I guess.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:31:19pm

re: #75 Mattand

I play in the key I can best sing the song. I play a couple of Grateful Dead songs two steps down from what others play because I could never sound quite right singing in the native key.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:31:52pm

re: #78 The Ghost of a Flea

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I actually have that flick on my external drive. LOL

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:33:24pm

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The economy is not just going to re-boot when Trump declares it over: people are going to stay away in large numbers from crowded public events, movie theaters, festivals, cruises, etc., even if they are allowed.

And when waves of COVID hit various companies, their operations will be impaired or disrupted, which will not allow for the ruthlessly optima efficiency that our modern economy demands.

business interruption insurance industry is gonna take a bath

eta: they expect losses, but not everybody at once

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:35:07pm

re: #82 NetworkKed

My problem with all the League broadcasts is that they are completely inaccessible to someone who has no idea what’s going on. Nothing is ever explained. You’re just assumed to know the terminology, what it means, and why it matters.

That’s one thing OWL’s done really well, in terms of their broadcasts/play by play commentary. (They have their other issues, but…)

I’ve been amused by how many of the NHL teams are now having “games” against the other NHL teams …on NHL2020. Streamed online. The Devils are currently playing the Flyers.

LIVE SIMULATED GAME | New Jersey Devils vs. Philadelphia Flyers

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:35:53pm

Thread:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:38:40pm

So far in the county where I live we have 3 people listed with COVID 19 with zero deaths.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:39:18pm

re: #70 plansbandc

Xanadu is one of two movies I walked out of. Just unfuckingwatchable. :D

But I would watch it over Plump any damn day.

After suffering through a double bill of Can’t Stop The Music and Xanadu, John Wilson founded THE RAZZIES!

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bratwurst  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:39:55pm

re: #57 stpaulbear

The Sgt. Pepper movie with Peter Frampton and the Bee Gees.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:40:52pm
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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:41:27pm

re: #93 Joe Bacon 🌹

OMG!!! I didn’t know that. From terrible art a great thing came.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:42:33pm

re: #94 bratwurst

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That fool probably enjoyed it…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:43:25pm

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

I like it. Not enough to watch over and over, but it’s interesting and ambitious.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:43:25pm

re: #89 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

business interruption insurance industry is gonna take a bath

eta: they expect losses, but not everybody at once

Probably depends on how force majeure clauses are interpreted State by State

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Mescalero09  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:43:27pm

re: #94 bratwurst

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NetworkKed  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:43:49pm

re: #90 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My problem with all the League broadcasts is that they are completely inaccessible to someone who has no idea what’s going on. Nothing is ever explained. You’re just assumed to know the terminology, what it means, and why it matters.

You’re not wrong. It’s very very dense. They could do a little more, but there’s just not enough time to really explain everything. I do think that it’s less inscrutable than DOTA - the fights are about the same, but the map and strategic environment is much more self-explanatory.

The great thing about esports in general, though, is how approachable they are - if you’ve got a computer, you can download the game and learn a little about it. Compared to the major team sports, the costs and necessary supporting infrastructure is tiny on a per-player basis.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:46:29pm

re: #98 The Ghost of a Flea

I kind of like it.

It’s actually not a bad film. I mean, pretty much anything by Uwe Boll is infintely worse. Hell, anything by Uwe Boll makes Xanadu look like Citizen Kane.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:46:43pm

re: #90 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’ve been amused by how many of the NHL teams are now having “games” against the other NHL teams …on NHL2020. Streamed online. The Devils are currently playing the Flyers

Same with the Detroit Red Wings - except that the Wings have sucked the last few years.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:48:13pm

re: #101 NetworkKed

You’re not wrong. It’s very very dense. They could do a little more, but there’s just not enough time to really explain everything. I do think that it’s less inscrutable than DOTA - the fights are about the same, but the map and strategic environment is much more self-explanatory.

The great thing about esports in general, though, is how approachable they are - if you’ve got a computer, you can download the game and learn a little about it.

It’s true. League just hasn’t really called to me in terms of playing. I honestly never expected to get into OWL but …things happened.

I’m honestly surprised Steam hasn’t run a pandemic sale yet.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:49:09pm

Here, everyone. While you’re all stuck at home, feast your eyes on Skatetown, USA.

Skatetown, USA (1979)

Notable for the being the first major role of the late Patrick Swayze and a brief speaking role by the ill-fated Dorothy Stratten.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:49:45pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

Probably depends on how force majeure clauses are interpreted State by State

‘but trump was totally foreseeable’ // 1/2

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:49:56pm

…but right now I’m finishing up Gotterdammerung’s last hour.

The Met’s had their Ring Cycle on their streaming service for free, so I’ve done my own little Bayreuth for the last couple of days.

About 45 minutes until everything burns down.

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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:50:40pm

re: #105 Dr Lizardo

OMG NOOOOOO!!! :D

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:50:49pm

re: #105 Dr Lizardo

The video is region-blocked.

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bratwurst  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:51:22pm

At his daily briefing just now Pritzker here in Illinois said he is not getting enough support from the federal government.

No shock of course…but he is not being nice to the boss!

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:51:58pm
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:52:06pm

re: #109 Eric The Fruit Bat

The video is region-blocked.

Huh. Weird; but then again, it’s probably because I’m in Czech Republic. In any event, you really aren’t missing some obscure cinematic treasure or anything. LOL.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:55:14pm
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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:55:39pm

Can we arrest him after he loses? Norms are going to continue to take a huge hit from this monster.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:55:40pm

Skatetown, USA also starred Maureen McCormick of Brady Bunch fame. She later recalled that pretty much damn near everyone was indulging in Bolivian Marching Powder on the set, including herself - she fell into a pretty serious cocaine addiction during production.

Scott Baio recalled many years later,

I have blocked that movie from my memory, it was so bad… That was that whole time where Xanadu and Roller Boogie and all that crap was coming out. That was one of those things where they sent me the script and I said ‘no,’ but they just kept calling and offering more money! I mean, they offered me a lot of money. And finally I said, ‘Well, hell. What is it? Two weeks’ work? Whatever. Okay. Fine.’ And it was… You know, sometimes money isn’t everything. [Laughs.] It was just bad. I mean, it was bad shooting it. I’m trying to think of any real stories that I have, but it was just insanity. When was that? ‘79? It was just a guy making a film who didn’t know how to make a film. And I don’t even know what the story was! Skatetown, U.S.A.? That was crapola.

I know, Baio’s a nut - but that quip of his got a chuckle out of me.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:55:51pm

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

Huh. Weird; but then again, it’s probably because I’m in Czech Republic.

I have a VPN where I can get around that block.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:57:36pm

re: #116 Eric The Fruit Bat

I have a VPN where I can get around that block.

It’s worth a gander…you can see what results when the air is saturated with the finest cocaine and everyone’s high.

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NetworkKed  Mar 28, 2020 • 12:57:55pm

re: #104 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m honestly surprised Steam hasn’t run a pandemic sale yet.

No, but I hear that Plague, Inc. is getting a special CV19 update. arstechnica.com

I picked up Rocket League this last week. It’s SO MUCH FUN, and very intense even for a complete duffer like me. Five minute stretches of not needing to think about other stuff is very nice.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:03:58pm

re: #104 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It’s true. League just hasn’t really called to me in terms of playing. I honestly never expected to get into OWL but …things happened.

I’m honestly surprised Steam hasn’t run a pandemic sale yet.

Steam is probably raking the dough in without having to conduct a sale. They could get some nice pr by offering a free selection of games free for the duration.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:04:27pm

re: #117 Dr Lizardo

It’s worth a gander…you can see what results when the air is saturated with the finest cocaine and everyone’s high.

With Scott Baio being involved in this train-wreck?!

Thank you, no……

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:06:11pm

re: #118 NetworkKed

No, but I hear that Plague, Inc. is getting a special CV19 update. arstechnica.com

I picked up Rocket League this last week. It’s SO MUCH FUN, and very intense even for a complete duffer like me. Five minute stretches of not needing to think about other stuff is very nice.

Plague, Inc. is an awesome mobile game. I started playing it again this week when I got bored.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:06:11pm

re: #111 jaunte

Why would there be tomatoes? This is not news. Tomatoes are a new world import to old Europe.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:09:14pm

re: #120 Eric The Fruit Bat

With Scott Baio being involved in this train-wreck?!

Thank you, no……

LOL it makes it all the more trainwreck-y.

The film itself is a disaster. Patrick Swayze did get positive reviews, and he did his own skating in the film as well - he’d rollerskated professionally as a teenager and was a trained dancer, so his performance stood out. Everyone else (including Baio)….not so much. And Dorothy Stratten had a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it cameo as a girl ordering a pizza.

It’d definitely a time-capusle of 1970s weirdness, particularly the short-lived rollerdisco craze.

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Alephnaught  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:10:30pm

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Xanadu was a trainwreck. I suppose it does have some camp value, as a window into a now (best) forgotten era. Seriously, you gotta wonder who thought it’d be a great idea to make a musical about a roller disco. In 1980. Disco was pretty much dead at that point….it peaked around the time of Saturday Night Fever and went into a terminal decline not long after that film was released in ‘77.

I suspect a helluva lot of cocaine was involved in the pitch meeting for Xanadu.

To be fair, it was a late highlight for ELO, and flippin’ Olivia Newton John:

Olivia Newton John Xanadu Original Version Remastered HD (1980)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:14:19pm

re: #122 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Nope, no tomatoes. Or chilies.

You can still see holdover recipes from the era in some cuisines, where they’re blending multiple ingredients to get a mix of sweet, sour, and umami that matches what tomatoes do on their own. With the Romans, a lot of times the launch point for that was wine syrup and fish sauce. In other places like the Caucasian regions (where a lot of stone fruit originates) you see stuff like using partially-ripened fruit…in particular plums…for sauces. But then there’s also stuff like pre-tomato “ketchup” made from mushrooms.

The explosion of the tomato makes a lot of sense when you look at what people were trying to achieve in terms of flavor with mixed ingredients.

While I was in Istanbul I went to an Ottoman cuisine restaraunt and they had this elaborate soup that was a puree of fruits, melon seeds, nuts, and various seasonings. What came to the table was…almost identical to tomato soup. It was funny as hell.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:16:08pm

re: #105 Dr Lizardo

Here, everyone. While you’re all stuck at home, feast your eyes on Skatetown, USA.

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Video

Notable for the being the first major role of the late Patrick Swayze and a brief speaking role by the ill-fated Dorothy Stratten.

Blocked in the United States. :-(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:17:24pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:18:18pm

re: #123 Dr Lizardo

LOL it makes it all the more trainwreck-y.

The film itself is a disaster.

Disaster indeed: Ron Palillo was one of many that was one veered.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:20:00pm

re: #126 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

You’d have to use a VPN to access it. Wonder why it’s blocked, though….I mean, it’s not like it’s Interstellar or anything.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:20:51pm

re: #128 Eric The Fruit Bat

Disaster indeed: Ron Palillo was one of many that was one veered.

The cast roster of that film looks like a less-than-memorable episode of The Love Boat.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:20:58pm

re: #122 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Why would there be tomatoes? This is not news. Tomatoes are a new world import to old Europe.

because the whole world is and has always been exactly like the united states is right now

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:21:43pm

re: #126 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Blocked in the United States. :-(

A VPN will get around that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:22:21pm

jeebus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:24:07pm
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Florida Panhandler  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:25:29pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I bet Rush listens to his well-trained Oncologist instead of some random douchebag on the radio or right wing website when it comes to his health concerns. I bet that doctor has a wall covered with diplomas and certifications.

In other words, Rush is fill of absolute dog shit as usual.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:26:10pm

re: #132 Eric The Fruit Bat

A VPN will get around that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:26:11pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:26:21pm

re: #129 Dr Lizardo

You’d have to use a VPN to access it. Wonder why it’s blocked, though….I mean, it’s not like it’s Interstellar or anything.

The message said copy right concerns.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:27:32pm

re: #132 Eric The Fruit Bat

A VPN will get around that…

May have to set one up. Eventually

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:30:15pm

Uncanny Valley Girl

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:30:29pm
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:30:34pm

re: #138 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

The message said copy right concerns.

Heh, I’m surprised that anyone would give a shit about a turkey like that. It’s so bad. I guess Columbia Pictures, who was the distributor, probably cares….and pretty much no one else.

Could be the soundtrack - apparently, until recently the film never had a VHS or DVD release, because of music licensing issues. I wonder if that’s why. Amazingly, it’s now out on Blu-Ray.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:31:10pm

re: #140 jaunte

Uncanny Valley Girl

Billy Graham’s daughter: ‘God is using coronavirus to turn us away from secularism’ -

(it’s not working)

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:31:12pm

re: #50 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I’ll bet those bubbles are made of soap.

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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:31:35pm

It never ends…

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:32:52pm

re: #140 jaunte

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steve_davis  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:33:24pm

re: #66 Alephnaught

Someone posted on the last thread Janey Godley’s overdub of First Minister Nichola Sturgeon’s announcerment of lockdown measures in Scotland on March 22nd.

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LOL! I understand why those poor scottish bastards couldn’t get the elevator with speech control to work.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:34:09pm

re: #115 Dr Lizardo

Yeah it’s weird to think that Marsha Brady was basically turning tricks to feed her nose candy habit in the 70’s and early 80’s (she admitted in her autobiography). That period of time was full of no-budget fad and naked booby flicks fueled and sometimes funded by Scarface Magic Dust.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:38:17pm

re: #140 jaunte

Uncanny Valley Girl

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To an evangelical, everything is a sign that you need to get right with their sky fairy, but especially anything that involves death and mayhem. That kind and caring deity that is spoken of in the New Testament? Yeah, they don’t have any time for him, they want the bloodthirsty bastard that scared the Israelites into obeying him that they wish would come down and start killing the “heretics.”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:38:30pm

re: #148 Florida Panhandler

Yeah it’s weird to think that Marsha Brady was basically turning tricks to feed her nose candy habit in the 70’s and early 80’s (she admitted in her autobiography). That period of time was full of no-budget fad and naked booby flicks fueled and sometimes funded by Scarface Magic Dust.

That was one hell of a wild time in Hollywood, from what I’ve read. The late 1970s/early ’80s was the sunset of the auteur film-makers; Cimino’s Heaven’s Gate killed that off. And then with the rise of film-makers like Spielberg and Lucas, making films that were consistently ultra-high-grossing flicks, Hollywood realized that little films weren’t gonna cut the mustard and they moved to the high-profile summer release tent-pole films we’re so familiar with today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:38:40pm

more in the thread

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:39:39pm

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

Following Trump’s lead.

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:39:42pm

Well, surprise. Not.

Trump takes immediate step to try to curb new inspector general’s autonomy, as battle over stimulus oversight begins In signing statement, he signals he could restrict new watchdog’s independence

In a White House signing statement released Friday evening, Trump called “unreasonable” the law’s mandate that a new Special Inspector General for Pandemic Recovery notify Congress immediately if the White House doesn’t cooperate with an audit or investigation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:41:23pm
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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:41:24pm

re: #153 retired cynic

WaPo

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:42:53pm

re: #155 retired cynic

On MSNBC Friday night, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) criticized Trump’s signing statement as “indicative of the difference between Democrats and Republicans when it came to this bill.” Congress will also soon establish its own panel, as allowed under law, “in real time to make sure we know where those funds are,” Pelosi said.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:43:39pm

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

That was one hell of a wild time in Hollywood, from what I’ve read. The late 1970s/early ’80s was the sunset of the auteur film-makers; Cimino’s Heaven’s Gate killed that off. And then with the rise of film-makers like Spielberg and Lucas, making films that were consistently ultra-high-grossing flicks, Hollywood realized that little films weren’t gonna cut the mustard and they moved to the high-profile summer release tent-pole films we’re so familiar with today.

The other big chance of the early 80s was the establishment of the PG-13 rating, which Hollywood initially chafed under because they’d been playing fast and loose with the indistinct line between PG and R since the establishment of ratings. Then they realized just how nebulous the line between PG-13 and R is and have been dancing on it ever since. Hence why none of the big R-rated films of the 80s could ever get made today, and why their “remakes/reboots” today seem so damned tame by comparison.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:44:42pm

re: #149 Targetpractice

Old Testament God talked about forgiveness of debts and mercy, too.

Evangelicals have invented their own Cosmic Domestic Abuser, who hits humanity because we deserve it, by chopping and cutting all available texts that have cultural legitimacy, then adding reams of their own fanfiction.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:44:44pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The solution: Blame New Yorkers for traveling to the state and bringing the virus with them, all while counting all those tourism dollars they refused to turn away.

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steve_davis  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:46:36pm

re: #75 Mattand

Pulling it back to music for a second:

Finally got around to watching the John Fogerty clip from a few posts back. Amazing that he still has it.

Charles pointed out that Fogerty is still performing the songs in their original keys. I learned to play Bad Moon Rising in D (D-G-A) going off the record. In the video, it looks like he’s playing in E (E-A-B).

I have tablature for Fortunate Son, and it says to tune the whole guitar down one step to D, resulting in different chord shapes. I was wondering if that is something Fogerty has done his whole career and did that somehow make singing easier on his vocal chords.

Now that I’m typing it out, maybe not, since you have to hit those notes anyway. Charles or any other musicians have insight on that?

Neil Young has been doing that since at least Massey Hall in 72. Needle and the Damage Done is a whole tone down from the album. Yeah, when you don’t have a recording studio worth of reverb to play with, you sing stuff down. Notice on Song Remains the Same, the version of Rock and Roll Robert Plant sings is much more voice-friendly.

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:47:14pm

I thought so. All those fines that Alex Jones has piled up before even going to trial: Juanita Jean’s son Mark Bankston (Little Bubba) is the attorney cleaning his clock.

“It is rare to see a legal defense so incompetent and disrespectful to the rule of law that it causes a defendant to rack up $150,000 in fines during preliminary motions before even reaching trial,” Bankston said. “These fines are only the beginning. A far greater reckoning awaits Mr. Jones.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:51:33pm

re: #158 The Ghost of a Flea

I mean, I’m not a fan of god concepts in general, but American Evangelicals are absolutely going for the gusto on formulating an entirely venal, hollow-of-values sock puppet god.

It’s the theological equivalent of “solve the problem by redefining it”…any god that demands consistency or effort is a burden to them, so they invent a god that cares only about perfunctory performance of faith. Thus they can err and always be forgiven, whereas anyone who won’t perform the precise ritual is Always Bad and Always Wrong.

And we’ve watched over the last three decades as they’ve finer-tuned their divinity, so that all their materialism is actually sacred.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:51:47pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

The other big chance of the early 80s was the establishment of the PG-13 rating, which Hollywood initially chafed under because they’d been playing fast and loose with the indistinct line between PG and R since the establishment of ratings. Then they realized just how nebulous the line between PG-13 and R is and have been dancing on it ever since. Hence why none of the big R-rated films of the 80s could ever get made today, and why their “remakes/reboots” today seem so damned tame by comparison.

Look at the recent reboot of RoboCop, the 2014 version. It’s OK….but it doesn’t hold a candle to the 1987 original, which was one of the most visceral films I’d ever seen at that time. Of course, it helped that the original RoboCop had some truly amazing actors all the way up and down the line, from the main cast to supporting actors, and that Paul Verhoeven expertly walked that very fine line between action/sci-fi/bodyhorror and a ruthlessly satirical indictment of corporate America.

Yeah…..hard to imagine something like that today. The 2014 remake was all right - and it was also entirely unnecessary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:51:53pm

JFC

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:52:54pm

expanded to MI

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:53:03pm

re: #140 jaunte

Uncanny Valley Girl

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she needs a more realistic wig.

that one on her head is ridiculous

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:53:08pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

Our governor - not coincidentally, a Democrat - alluded to this happening in his Wednesday videoconference. He said he was finding ways to work around it. I wonder what kind of backroom deals they’re cutting behind closed doors at 3M and Medtronic.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:53:17pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #159 Targetpractice
Florida makes a point of publishing “Non-Florida Residen”’ numbers

floridahealthcovid19.gov
(highlight mine)

Even on their interactive dashboard, when you select individual counties, they list the
“Non-Resident” cases
experience.arcgis.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:54:20pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:54:20pm

Juanita Jean’s had a great bunch of cartoons yesterday. Gonna share them as we go along.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:55:00pm
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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:55:11pm

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:55:31pm

re: #119 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Steam is probably raking the dough in without having to conduct a sale. They could get some nice pr by offering a free selection of games free for the duration.

Drawful 2 is currently free; I picked up a copy earlier this week. It’s a fantastic social game (3-8 people) where you are given a thing to draw (I once got “fog” or “designer women’s jeans”) on your phone - no erasing! - and then each picture is shown and people type in their guess as to what the thing was. Then all the guesses are displayed and you vote for which one you think was the right answer. If people guess the right thing, the person who drew it gets the points. Otherwise, the person who came up with the fake thing gets the point.

It’s a great game that can be played online or in person, and all sorts of groups. I’ve done the first version with friends and family. Set up a Discord with screenshare to run the main game, everyone uses their own smartphone as the controller (you go to a website and enter the code shown on screen, no app requires) and have voice chat - great way to socialize from a distance.

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steve_davis  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:56:30pm

re: #95 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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the guy holding up the baby to shield him from the assassination attempt. and his fans love it!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:58:03pm

re: #173 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I watched one of my favorite YouTubers play this with his friends, it’s awesome. Mrs. Fish and I are planning on picking it up for some of our friend groups to play together during our stay-at-home isolation.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:58:25pm

re: #136 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:58:54pm

re: #163 Dr Lizardo

Look at the recent reboot of RoboCop, the 2014 version. It’s OK….but it doesn’t hold a candle to the 1987 original, which was one of the most visceral films I’d ever seen at that time. Of course, it helped that the original RoboCop had some truly amazing actors all the way up and down the line, from the main cast to supporting actors, and that Paul Verhoeven expertly walked that very fine line between action/sci-fi/bodyhorror and a ruthlessly satirical indictment of corporate America.

Yeah…..hard to imagine something like that today. The 2014 remake was all right - and it was also entirely unnecessary.

IMO, the only thing the remake has going for it is the 20+ years in advances made in practical effects and CGI. The biting satire has been replaced with a “corrupt cops on the corporate take” script, the actors seem to be there just for a paycheck, and (again) the need to keep it to a PG-13 rating means the over-the-top violence of the original is patched over with various attempts at humor. I’d also say that the attempt really suffers from one big problem: Various films (including two sequels to the original) have followed the same formula so much that what once was original and groundbreaking today is just another cookie-cutter film.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:59:34pm

re: #175 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I watched one of my favorite YouTubers play this with his friends, it’s awesome. Mrs. Fish and I are planning on picking it up for some of our friend groups to play together during our stay-at-home isolation.

We did the original over Thanksgiving with some friends (it was in a Jack-in-the-Box set that we grabbed on sale to have fun with after dinner - screenshare from a laptop to the main TV for easy games with a group) and have also played it with my whole family and also the in-laws. These are three very different groups when it comes to dynamics and everyone had a great time.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 28, 2020 • 1:59:57pm

Money down that in the president’s fruit loop of a brain, he’s afraid that people will look at Mar-a-Lago being connected to early cases of Covid19 diagnosis in Florida, so he has to formulate an explanation in which it’s actually one of his enemies (the entirety of New York) that’s to blame.

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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:01:15pm

re: #168 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Florida makes a point of publishing “Non-Florida Residen”’ numbers

floridahealthcovid19.gov
(highlight mine)

[Embedded content]

Even on their interactive dashboard, when you select individual counties, they list the
“Non-Resident” cases
experience.arcgis.com

But by dog, let’s bend over backward for The Villages

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:02:26pm

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:03:04pm

A Navigator tracking poll finds President Trump is now under water on his handling of the coronavirus outbreak — this week, Trump saw a 13-point swing in his net approval on his handling of the pandemic, from 52% to 42% (+10) to 47% to 50% (-3).

Key finding: “Trump is wildly out of step with Americans with his new push to relax social distancing. Only 5% say we should roll back precautions, even at the expense of economic losses, while 74% say we should wait however long it takes for public health experts to say it’s safe, including 70% of Republicans.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:03:15pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:03:32pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

IMO, the only thing the remake has going for it is the 20+ years in advances made in practical effects and CGI. The biting satire has been replaced with a “corrupt cops on the corporate take” script, the actors seem to be there just for a paycheck, and (again) the need to keep it to a PG-13 rating means the over-the-top violence of the original is patched over with various attempts at humor. I’d also say that the attempt really suffers from one big problem: Various films (including two sequels to the original) have followed the same formula so much that what once was original and groundbreaking today is just another cookie-cutter film.

I wasn’t aware it was a satire. I think I saw bits and pieces of it years ago. It’s actually been on my mind because of the running game of find out the tagline for the number one box office movie of your birth being your quarantine slogan. FYI- Half man, half robot. All cop. The future of law enforcement. I’ve been watching Tiger King though and hypothetically casting it as I go. I have a few episodes left.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:05:44pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:05:45pm

re: #179 The Ghost of a Flea

Money down that in the president’s fruit loop of a brain, he’s afraid that people will look at Mar-a-Lago being connected to early cases of Covid19 diagnosis in Florida, so he has to formulate an explanation in which it’s actually one of his enemies (the entirety of New York) that’s to blame.

Simpler explanation: He’s been planning to blame his failures on blue states for weeks. First he accused them of being the cause of the “hoax” that was threatening his reelection, then he attacked them for shutting things down when the market got jittery, and in recent days he’s accused them of lying about the need for equipment to explain why his own half-assed efforts have led to a massive deficit of necessary tools to fight the virus.

So the obvious next step is to accuse those states of being responsible for the spread of the virus, because (unsurprisingly) red state govs are kissing his ass while going along with his insistence that closing things down was “worse” than acting as things were fine.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:06:22pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

Fair enough, the FX improvements are noticeable and caught my attention in a couple of scenes.

The original RoboCop is, to me, one of the best films of the 1980s. It’s sequels weren’t as good by any metric. I generally tend to ignore RoboCop 2 and RoboCop3 (especially the latter) and just view the original as a stand-alone film.

Of all the Terminator films, my personal favorite is the 1984 original. T2 had groundbreaking VFX, no doubt about it and it deserves a great deal of recognition for that….but The Terminator stands out for its gritty, low-budget, almost guerrilla-style of film-making.

And with that, time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:06:24pm

re: #153 retired cynic

Well, surprise. Not.

Trump takes immediate step to try to curb new inspector general’s autonomy, as battle over stimulus oversight begins In signing statement, he signals he could restrict new watchdog’s independence

what i’m reading is:

“signing statements” have all the legal effect of a Presidential tweet or press release.

All this means is, Trump is declaring that he will defy the laws enacted in this bill and end up in court.

The Court could neuter the provisions.
Trump, by himself has not and cannot.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:07:15pm

So nearly 20 years after New York, of all the states the was most adversely most in 9/11 is Trump’s scapegoat for the virus’s spread. The us against them politics of the right is killing our country.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:07:41pm

Currently Re-watching episode 2, season 4 of The Walking Dead: Infected
pathogen spreads throughout the prison community

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:07:58pm

re: #182 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

And now we (again) see that any rise in his numbers is generally a blip because he can never seem “presidental” for longer than it takes for that blip to manifest before he returns to being a fucking moron.

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m0nkeyb0y  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:09:10pm

re: #75 Mattand

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:09:11pm

re: #186 Targetpractice

Simpler explanation: He’s been planning to blame his failures on blue states for weeks. First he accused them of being the cause of the “hoax” that was threatening his reelection, then he attacked them for shutting things down when the market got jittery, and in recent days he’s accused them of lying about the need for equipment to explain why his own half-assed efforts have led to a massive deficit of necessary tools to fight the virus.

So the obvious next step is to accuse those states of being responsible for the spread of the virus, because (unsurprisingly) red state govs are kissing his ass while going along with his insistence that closing things down was “worse” than acting as things were fine.

its an effing global pandemic and all the US president is concerned with is:
- it’s not my fault
and
- i dont take responsibility at all

he has basically ruined the country

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:09:42pm

Gov Beshear reporting 92 new cases, but no deaths today in Kentucky.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:10:59pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:11:40pm

re: #191 Targetpractice

And now we (again) see that any rise in his numbers is generally a blip because he can never seem “presidental” for longer than it takes for that blip to manifest before he returns to being a fucking moron.

Yep. And his rise really was minuscule. No one rallying around the leader in large numbers like they did after Pearl Harbor, the immediate aftermath of the Guif War and fall of USSR, & 9/11. It’s because most Americans know he’s incapable of doing the bare minimal in a crisis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:12:00pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:12:20pm

I have a bit of a dilemma. I got a recorded call about 330PM today from my employer. I went to the staff alerts as was mention in the recording. I am to report to work on Monday. Now the problem for me is that I fall into a high risk category for Covid-19. I am 58 years old. We were told earlier that we could use our sick leave time with penalty. I have over 600 hours of accumulated sick time. They also said in this statement that supervisors are to make decisions as to who can take off or not. I called my ward leader and he is out of the area and said he will call me back later. I want to take off and use my sick time until this virus subsides or should I go into work and clear it with them?

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:13:10pm

re: #187 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough, the FX improvements are noticeable and caught my attention in a couple of scenes.

The original RoboCop is, to me, one of the best films of the 1980s. It’s sequels weren’t as good by any metric. I generally tend to ignore RoboCop 2 and RoboCop3 (especially the latter) and just view the original as a stand-alone film.

Of all the Terminator films, my personal favorite is the 1984 original. T2 had groundbreaking VFX, no doubt about it and it deserves a great deal of recognition for that….but The Terminator stands out for its gritty, low-budget, almost guerrilla-style of film-making.

And with that, time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

It actually was guerilla-style film-making. Cameron’s crew were running on such a shoe-string budget that the reason the film was mostly filmed during the night was because they couldn’t afford the permits for filming during daylight hours. So most filming was basically “Ready. Action. Cut. Now…RUN BEFORE THE COPS GET HERE!” The one time they actually got caught by the cops, Cameron got them off in a totally awesome fashion: He told a massive lie. He said they were film-school students and weren’t aware they needed permits to film on-location. The cops bought it and let them off with a warning, which just goes to show how much of a practiced liar James Cameron is.

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:13:37pm

John Scalzi: This virus doesn’t care about politics, or the economy, or any human concern at all. It just wants to spread. That’s it. That’s all. It will, if you let it. And won’t, if you don’t.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:14:00pm

re: #198 PhillyPretzel

Stay away as best you possibly can.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:14:04pm

re: #198 PhillyPretzel

Stay safe. Stay home if you can.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:15:44pm

re: #199 Targetpractice

It actually was guerilla-style film-making. Cameron’s crew were running on such a shoe-string budget that the reason the film was mostly filmed during the night was because they couldn’t afford the permits for filming during daylight hours. So most filming was basically “Ready. Action. Cut. Now…RUN BEFORE THE COPS GET HERE!” The one time they actually got caught by the cops, Cameron got them off in a totally awesome fashion: He told a massive lie. He said they were film-school students and weren’t aware they needed permits to film on-location. The cops bought it and let them off with a warning, which just goes to show how much of a practiced liar James Cameron is.

Wow had no idea about that. TBH I’ve stopped watching after Judgment Day because I felt Cameron waited too long for a sequel. My younger brother I swear rented the movie on the exact date of Judgment Day in 1997. I was ten. That was a bit eerie to put it mildly.

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Mescalero09  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:16:47pm

re: #198 PhillyPretzel

Call them. Express your concerns. At the very least you can burn a week or two as you and they figure it out.
My wife burned a week until shit got right.
It’s not about them.
It about others and most motherfuckers cannot wrap their pin heads around that.
You don’t get this far to die for a few weeks salary.
My two cents.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:16:57pm

re: #198 PhillyPretzel

I have a bit of a dilemma. I got a recorded call about 330PM today from my employer. I went to the staff alerts as was mention in the recording. I am to report to work on Monday. Now the problem for me is that I fall into a high risk category for Covid-19. I am 58 years old. We were told earlier that we could use our sick leave time with penalty. I have over 600 hours of accumulated sick time. They also said in this statement that supervisors are to make decisions as to who can take off or not. I called my ward leader and he is out of the area and said he will call me back later. I want to take off and use my sick time until this virus subsides or should I go into work and clear it with them?

If you aren’t doing essential work, I wouldn’t go in if I were you, unless you can work in isolation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:17:04pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:17:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:18:41pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:19:09pm

re: #205 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I am doing so called essential work. Writing safety violations in a city that for the most part is closed. Normally I would take my breaks in a restaurant but they are closed. It is not a good situation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:19:29pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:20:22pm

re: #193 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

its an effing global pandemic and all the US president is concerned with is:
- it’s not my fault
and
- i dont take responsibility at all

he has basically ruined the country

We’ve known for years that this shit was going to go down as it has. The big difference is that most of us usually expected a 9/11 or a Katrina, a one-time event that was so quick and so brutal that the damage would be relatively isolated. None of us really expected a pandemic that would give him plenty of time to screw over the entire country at once.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:21:01pm
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CarolJ  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:21:24pm

re: #201 Rightwingconspirator

According to my calculator, you got 15 weeks. Demand time off.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:21:50pm

re: #209 PhillyPretzel

I am doing so called essential work. Writing safety violations in a city that for the most part is closed. Normally I would take my breaks in a restaurant but they are closed. It is not a good situation.

Not essential right now. Don’t go in.

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Mescalero09  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:21:52pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

All over the nation it’s a day late and a few million dollars short.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:22:57pm

re: #200 retired cynic

John Scalzi: This virus doesn’t care about politics, or the economy, or any human concern at all. It just wants to spread. That’s it. That’s all. It will, if you let it. And won’t, if you don’t.

and that’s why living like this is the new normal and any talk about Easter is an ignorant, cruel joke.

(until there is a true and effective, and available vaccine)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:23:10pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:23:12pm

re: #213 CarolJ

Thanks. I know I roughly have about 80 days. I can call in sick and use it but after 14 years of the very restrictive policy I am afraid to.

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:23:18pm

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:25:12pm

re: #119 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Steam is probably raking the dough in without having to conduct a sale. They could get some nice pr by offering a free selection of games free for the duration.

Epic does, but they have been for a long time now. Downloading World War Z right now.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:25:20pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Amazing how this policy comes after hordes of spring breakers came and left their money in the state’s coffers…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:25:42pm

re: #218 PhillyPretzel

Thanks. I know I roughly have about 80 days. I can call in sick and use it but after 14 years of the very restrictive policy I am afraid to.

If they fire you, hire a lawyer and sue their asses later. In the meantime you can collect the beefed up unemployment benefits. Don’t let them bully you into committing suicide.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:27:15pm

re: #222 NO SMOCKING GUN!

True. And I have a cousin who is an attorney who recommend someone who is good at this type of law.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:27:32pm
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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:27:55pm

Illinois Coronavirus stats
Thursday afternoon 3151 tests, 134 new cases, 422 total, 4 deaths
Friday afternoon 4286 tests, 163 new cases, 585 total, 5 deaths
Saturday afternoon 6247 tested, 168 new cases, 753 total, 6 deaths
Sunday afternoon 8374 tested, 296 new cases, 1049 total, 9 deaths
Monday afternoon 9868 tested (tests still limited), 236 new cases, 1285 total, 12 deaths
Tuesday afternoon 11,485 tested, 250 new cases, 1535 total, 16 deaths
Wednesday afternoon 14,209 tested, 330 new cases, 1865 total, 19 deaths
Thursday afternoon 16,631 tested, 673 new cases, 2538 total, 26 deaths (c. half of all in Chicago)
Friday afternoon 21,542 tests, 488 new cases, 3026 total, 34 deaths
Saturday afternoon 25,429 tests, 465 new cases, 3491 total, 47 deaths

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:28:22pm

re: #219 retired cynic

needs a comma and a question mark

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:29:28pm

Only 17 new cases today, but 5 new deaths (including the first 30-or-younger case). Deaths are a lagging indicator, of course, even more so than the cases. It’s very much looking possible that we are starting to see the curve flatten here - if tomorrow AND Monday are both low increases then I would say it’s real and not just noise.

(Men currently make up 53% of the cases but 76% of the deaths in county.)

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Mescalero09  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:30:58pm

re: #218 PhillyPretzel

You and millions others are the “good soldier”.
Pay your own way, save your sick and personal days, and stress when you miss work.
My wife knows she HAS to work for us to work out. She’s 66. I told that story 2 weeks ago about her going in with a sick SUPERVISOR in there.
Now she’s at 2 on 2 off but maybe they go all home.
You can also tell them you feel under the weather.
But I know right where you are.
Sometimes you have to jump up and down and make a scene if quiet sensibility doesn’t get it.
Point to the rising cases. The uncertainty. And the fact you don’t feel good.
Good luck.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:32:06pm

I’m sorry I’m advance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:33:11pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:36:13pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:36:32pm

Stealing Lawhawk’s thunder a bit here

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:38:38pm

Weird times.

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bratwurst  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:41:59pm

re: #123 Dr Lizardo

It’d definitely a time-capusle of 1970s weirdness, particularly the short-lived rollerdisco craze.

The CHiPs episode that involves a celebrity roller disco event is one of the cultural high points of the 1970s.

CHiPs “Roller Disco” – The most Seventies scene in 1970s TV

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:43:27pm

Thanks for all of the recommendations. I just texted my ward leader and told him I do not want to be a statistic and that I would use my sick leave for now. Heaven knows what is going to happen and I rather be stuck in my house and on the internet than exposed to this virus.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:44:48pm

re: #140 jaunte

Uncanny Valley Girl

[Embedded content]

I swear to Dog I saw that picture and my first thought was “Drag Queen”.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:46:46pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:47:27pm

re: #237 NO SMOCKING GUN!

No, Mississippi will be Italy.

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gwangung  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:48:13pm

re: #238 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Good chance to be worse and be its own example.

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Greup  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:48:51pm

Nah, Mississippi will be what all the others will be measured against.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:55:41pm

re: #140 jaunte

Uncanny Valley Girl

[Embedded content]

She’s the same asshole who prays for San Francisco and Hollywood to get nuked by North Korea.

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:56:11pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

needs a comma and a question mark

I didn’t make it; I just posted it here.

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stpaulbear  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:56:18pm

re: #189 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

So nearly 20 years after New York, of all the states the was most adversely most in 9/11 is Trump’s scapegoat for the virus’s spread. The us against them politics of the right is killing our country.

An editorial cartoonist or graphic artist needs to draw Trump piloting a jetliner into a hospital building.

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nowherenorth2  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:59:28pm

re: #232 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That is…going to be interesting…and that is sincerely messed up

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 2:59:54pm

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:04:36pm

While I have your attention. [grin] My two tuxedo girls finally decided that it was more snuggly to use the cat bed together than to sleep apart. Boots & Pippi.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:05:34pm

hi.

Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services updates their “dashboard” at 1200 and 1800 Central Time.

As of now, there are no new cases or deaths since yesterday.

Total tested (in a state of 1,900,000): 2,006 (there’s no fookin’ way Trump could identify which counties are safe with testing levels that low).
Positive: 96
Deaths: 2

Almost all the cases are in Omaha or its suburbs.
nebraska.maps.arcgis.com

The 36 year-old woman who was our first case, falling ill after a trip to the United Kingdom on Feb. 24 is still in critical condition today.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:05:39pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

I said this yesterday but I’ll repeat it. Trump has internal polling that has him losing Michigan and he’s already given up on winning it. It’s the only thing that makes any sense on why he would treat a state this way that he barely won in 2016.

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stpaulbear  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:08:41pm

Ooh. Thunder in St. Paul. First time I’ve heard it this spring.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:08:49pm

re: #232 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Stealing Lawhawk’s thunder a bit here

Unholy hell, Trump never gives up a grudge. That casino fight was years ago.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:09:00pm

re: #249 stpaulbear

Ooh. Thunder in St. Paul. First time I’ve heard it this spring.

Yep. We’re enjoying this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:10:33pm

re: #232 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Stealing Lawhawk’s thunder a bit here

BREAKING: The Bureau of Indian Affairs today told the Mashpee Wampanoag tribe that the Secretary of the Interior has ordered that their reservation be disestablished and their land be taken out of trust.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:10:58pm

re: #248 Ace Rothstein

I said this yesterday but I’ll repeat it. Trump has internal polling that has him losing Michigan and he’s already given up on winning it. It’s the only thing that makes any sense on why he would treat a state this way that he barely won in 2016.

yup

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:11:52pm

Computing pi with physics:

The most unexpected answer to a counting puzzle

There are two videos involving collisions, and a third involving light.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:14:24pm

re: #252 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Buried in that article:

“They don’t look like Indians to me,” Trump said. In an earlier interview, he opined that “I might have more Indian blood than a lot of the so-called Indians that are trying to open up the reservations” to gambling.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:15:13pm

re: #255 Belafon

Buried in that article:

Maybe Elizabeth Warren should be calling him Pocahontas.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:15:32pm

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Maybe Elizabeth Warren should be calling him Pocahontas.

Came here to say this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:15:54pm
259
Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:18:36pm

Days old, but still hilarious:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:18:46pm

re: #255 Belafon

Buried in that article:

Donald Trump “They do not look like Indians to me”

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:18:50pm

re: #252 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

re: #255 Belafon

The Pequots:
en.wikipedia.org

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:22:01pm

re: #259 Targetpractice

Days old, but still hilarious:

Is that Fallout?

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:22:37pm

re: #262 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Is that Fallout?

Ayep, New Vegas, aka the best Fallout game since the originals.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:23:09pm

re: #263 Targetpractice

Ayep, New Vegas, aka the best Fallout game since the originals.

I haven’t played, either the originals or New Vegas.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:24:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:28:22pm

All the bashing of the movie Xanadu, I like the movie.

I like pineapple on pizza as well.

Fight me.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:30:53pm

re: #265 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

And Florida will still blame it on Spring Breakers, not their greed.

You know, maybe running a state solely on a flat sales tax is not such a great idea.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:31:01pm

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡

All the bashing of the movie Xanadu, I like the movie.

I like pineapple on pizza as well.

Fight me.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:36:00pm

re: #265 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

[Embedded content]

Can’t think of a worse state than Florida for this to hit.

Florida’s uninsured includes about 20 percent of the working population (ages 18 to 65) and about 8 percent of children under 18 years old —

“Almost 3 million people in Florida without insurance is a big number, and it’s only going to get bigger,” said Sandy Jacobson, an insurance planner and consultant in Delray Beach.

sun-sentinel.com

Not to mention the amount of elderly…. what a mess…..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:43:25pm

Wyoming Department of Health just updated their information.

82 cases in 14 counties, 18 recovered. The first case was on February 23.

Women are disproportionately represented in the cases.

All age categories have cases, though 60-69 has the most.

health.wyo.gov (graphs and stuff)

health.wyo.gov (lists of counties and number of cases, and other things about the disease)

Updated information from the Nebraska Panhandle Public Health District:

Updated self-quarantine guidelines are being provided to anyone that has traveled or will be traveling outside the Nebraska Panhandle.

To limit spread in Nebraska, all travelers should self-quarantine for 14 days upon returning home and immediately report any symptoms consistent with COVID-19 infection to their health care provider. This means if you travel out of the Panhandle, you will be asked to self-quarantine for 14 days upon returning to the Panhandle with these exceptions: (exceptions are extremely limited, such as truckers or workers who must leave the area for work, they are required to stay home when they return).

pphd.org

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:49:17pm
272
William Lewis  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:50:41pm

re: #113 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yep. The Scorpion and the Fox. He’s the scorpion and all of America is the Fox.

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:50:42pm

re: #271 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Meanwhile, Trump’s account remains open and free to spread bullshit by the truckload.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:51:53pm

Weld County, Colo. (on our southern border) reports 147 cases and 6 deaths now.

They, like Wyoming, report many more women than men infected. Cases are in all age ranges, with the most in the 40-49 age group (about 2/3 women).

The only age range where there are more men than women is 70-79.

weldgov.com

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jeffreyw  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:54:05pm

Black Bean Soup with Bacon

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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:54:44pm

Of course, Donny’s account will be locked within a week of his leaving the White House, with an empty apology from Jack for why he was allowed to shit all over the Twitter TOS for years without consequence.

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danarchy  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:55:47pm

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Weld County, Colo. (on our southern border) reports 147 cases and 6 deaths now.

They, like Wyoming, report many more women than men infected. Cases are in all age ranges, with the most in the 40-49 age group (about 2/3 women).

The only age range where there are more men than women is 70-79.

weldgov.com

I kind of wonder if that is just because men tend to be less likely to seek medical care. So if they are just suffering through it at home they wont be captured in the data.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 3:59:27pm

re: #272 William Lewis

Yep. The Scorpion and the Fox. He’s the scorpion and all of America is the Fox.

Trump on revenge in an interview with Charlie Rose in 1992 (1:00).

He was a sociopath then.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:00:02pm
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steve_davis  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:00:18pm

re: #233 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Weird times.

[Embedded content]

homicide in canada. before the victim bleeds out, he shakes hands with the perp, apologizes for not dying more quickly.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:01:14pm

Another Beverly Hills landmark closes for good.

Goodbye Nate N’ Al’s!

Iconic Beverly Hills restaurant Nate ‘N Al’s is closing tomorrow, a source has confirmed to Eater. The historic Jewish deli has had a rollercoaster two years, having first been slated for closure back in 2018 before being saved by Irving Azoff and a slew of LA celebrities. The restaurant was set to move to a new location in Beverly Hills after its building was sold, but now that deal has reportedly fallen through. At this point, it’s unclear if Nate ‘N Al’s will ever return, and if so in what form. The final day of service — albeit takeout and delivery only per California Governor Gavin Newsom, given the current novel coronavirus pandemic — is tomorrow.

Nate ‘N Al’s has long been one of the most famous restaurants in all of Los Angeles, playing to daytime power meetings between music, television, and movie industry titans. The restaurant first opened in 1945, and was purchased by the Azoff-led consortium in 2019, around the same time the Azoffs also bought separate restaurant legend Apple Pan. It was thought that Nate ‘N Al’s would relocate over to Canon Drive in the old Wolfgang Steakhouse space, but the insider says that is no longer the case.

la.eater.com

So many good memories going there and meeting celebrities…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:01:46pm

re: #277 danarchy

I kind of wonder if that is just because men tend to be less likely to seek medical care. So if they are just suffering through it at home they wont be captured in the data.

Maybe. On the other hand, women around here tend to work in more service-oriented jobs where they could have a greater risk of exposure, such as grocery or childcare.

Rounding up cattle on a horse or driving a tractor doesn’t really expose you the same way.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:02:05pm
284
I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:03:20pm

“In at least 10 government reports from 2003 to 2015, federal officials predicted the United States would experience a critical lack of ventilators and other lifesaving medical supplies if it faced a viral outbreak like the one currently sweeping the country,” CNN reports.

“The drumbeat of warnings undermines President Trump’s claim last week that ‘nobody in their wildest dreams’ could have imagined the demand for ventilators that now exists.”

285
Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:03:36pm

re: #246 retired cynic

While I have your attention. [grin] My two tuxedo girls finally decided that it was more snuggly to use the cat bed together than to sleep apart. Boots & Pippi.

[Embedded content]

Hope you don’t mind but I had to steal that.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:03:44pm

the good old days

“What would you think if, when your governor asked the federal government for the disaster assistance that Congress has provided, the President responded, ‘I would like you to do us a favor.’ I’ll send the disaster relief once you brand my opponent a criminal.”

— Stanford law professor Pamela Karlan, testifying before the House impeachment inquiry on December 4, 2019.

287
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:06:48pm

re: #286 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

the good old days

The Republican Response:

“That’s fair game!”

288
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:09:21pm

Idaho has updated their stats.

261 confirmed cases. 31 new. 1 additional death.
Twin Falls city/county holding steady at 2 confirmed, 0 deaths.

289
Jay C  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:12:08pm

re: #281 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another Beverly Hills landmark closes for good.

Goodbye Nate N’ Al’s!

Iconic Beverly Hills restaurant Nate ‘N Al’s is closing tomorrow, a source has confirmed to Eater. The historic Jewish deli has had a rollercoaster two years, having first been slated for closure back in 2018 before being saved by Irving Azoff and a slew of LA celebrities. The restaurant was set to move to a new location in Beverly Hills after its building was sold, but now that deal has reportedly fallen through. At this point, it’s unclear if Nate ‘N Al’s will ever return, and if so in what form. The final day of service — albeit takeout and delivery only per California Governor Gavin Newsom, given the current novel coronavirus pandemic — is tomorrow.

Nate ‘N Al’s has long been one of the most famous restaurants in all of Los Angeles, playing to daytime power meetings between music, television, and movie industry titans. The restaurant first opened in 1945, and was purchased by the Azoff-led consortium in 2019, around the same time the Azoffs also bought separate restaurant legend Apple Pan. It was thought that Nate ‘N Al’s would relocate over to Canon Drive in the old Wolfgang Steakhouse space, but the insider says that is no longer the case.

la.eater.com

So many good memories going there and meeting celebrities…

OMG. I grew up in Beverly Hills, and Nate ‘n Al’s was a legend even in my young day (it had been around, back then, for about twenty years , therefore forever: my parents (like so many locals back then) were transplanted New Yorkers - Nate ‘n Al’s was always held up to me as the “real deal” (I.e. standard NYC) for delicatessen: and, unusually for parents, they were right….

290
Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:15:41pm

Ricketts’ order could prevent some evictions, but housing advocates say they all should be stopped (Omaha World-Herald)

Gov. Pete Ricketts (R) promulgated an executive order prohibiting evictions through May 31 where a person can show direct damage due to the epidemic. As of today, no one has applied that executive order successfully in an eviction case.

291
Barefoot Grin  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:16:40pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Oh man, and I was just watching the “30 for 30” on the Celtics/Lakers rivalry. So true!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:20:13pm
293
Jay C  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:20:24pm

re: #281 Joe Bacon 🌹

ADD: some years back, we had the chance meeting with the (IIRC) grandson of the “Al” of Nate ‘n Al’s, who finally disabused me of the persistent legend about the old family eatery: that their bagels were particularly good because they imported New York City water ( presumably in tank trucks?) to boil them in.

Oh well……

294
Eventual Carrion  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:20:53pm

re: #168 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Florida makes a point of publishing “Non-Florida Residen”’ numbers

floridahealthcovid19.gov
(highlight mine)

[Embedded content]

Even on their interactive dashboard, when you select individual counties, they list the
“Non-Resident” cases
experience.arcgis.com

Maybe out of state people should stop going there for any reason if that is the way they feel.

295
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:22:52pm
296
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:24:49pm

re: #291 Barefoot Grin

Oh man, and I was just watching the “30 for 30” on the Celtics/Lakers rivalry. So true!

It really needs sports broadcaster play-by-play

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:25:15pm

re: #237 NO SMOCKING GUN!

[Embedded content]

MSNBC
@MSNBC
*
2h
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves rejects a state lockdown for COVID-19, and says “Mississippi’s never gonna be China.”

Well, not unless they set up some Special Economic Zones.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:27:12pm

Need some cheering up. It’s time for more Kukla, Fran & Ollie!

Kukla, Fran and Ollie - Amusement Park - August 22, 1949

299
lawhawk  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:27:20pm

So, Trump disestablished a Native American tribe today.

Hey….. wait a minute. Someone stole my thunder!? /

Seriously, fuck Trump. He never misses an opportunity to carry a grudge and engage in awful behavior knowing he can get away with it.

300
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:27:53pm

solid grounds for another impeachment

301
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:31:15pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:33:33pm

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

solid grounds for another impeachment

So first, the Senate Repubs just decided that they were gonna throw $500 billion into Mnuchin’s pocket without the least bit of oversight, setting up Donny to declare at a presser that he would be the oversight.

Then they tried to sneak through a final draft without the language negotiated with the Senate Dems, only to get caught and time wasted waiting for a final draft that included the language so it could be voted upon.

And now Donny has just decided to continue with the campaign of total obstruction in order to allow Stevie to spend $500 billion however he likes on whichever companies/donors he likes.

So how long before we find out that Trump hotels/golf courses have received bailouts in total contravention of the law, with the belief that he’s bullet-proof because there’s no way Mitch would ever allow him to be held accountable for blatantly breaking the law?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:36:01pm
304
Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:36:33pm

They had a tornado in Jonesboro, my wife’s home town:

weather.com

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Interesting Times  Mar 28, 2020 • 4:36:41pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

It should also be obvious that tens of millions of Americans have become sick and defective* as well, because they support and admire this behavior.

*You can thank the regressive Murdoch media empire for that - no “re-education” camps necessary when citizens brainwash themselves.

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sagehen  Mar 28, 2020 • 5:22:05pm

re: #291 Barefoot Grin

Oh man, and I was just watching the “30 for 30” on the Celtics/Lakers rivalry. So true!

Have you seen the documentary “Magic & Bird”?

Magic Johnson and Larry Bird: A Courtship of Rivals Basketball

There was also a broadway show called Magic/Bird

Highlights From “Magic/Bird” on Broadway

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2020 • 5:42:17pm

re: #285 Charles Johnson

Hope you don’t mind but I had to steal that.

[Embedded content]

I don’t mind at all. I’m thrilled!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 28, 2020 • 5:54:03pm

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

solid grounds for another impeachment

What I expected. Get the money allocated and then essentially steal/dole it out however they want while daring Congress to do something about it.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:05:50pm

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Weld County, Colo. (on our southern border) reports 147 cases and 6 deaths now.

They, like Wyoming, report many more women than men infected. Cases are in all age ranges, with the most in the 40-49 age group (about 2/3 women).

The only age range where there are more men than women is 70-79.

weldgov.com

Now that’s anomalous (the infection rate doesn’t skew male as far as the death rate does, but it is more male than female other places). I wonder if it reflects who is choosing to get tested in that very red county?


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