Ben Folds Five at Their Best: “Philosophy” (From Sessions at West 54th) [VIDEO]

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There is no best rock and roll band in the world. It doesn’t exist in a persistent fashion. But any given band can be the best rock and roll band in the world on any given night if all the variables line up just right, and this was Ben Folds Five’s night.

Music video by Ben Folds Five performing Philosophy (from Sessions at West 54th). (C) 2001 Epic Records, a division of Sony Music Entertainment

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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:27:31pm

Won’t you look up at the skyline
At the mortar, block, and glass
And check out the reflections in my eyes

See they always used to be there
Even when this was all was grass
And I sang and danced about a high-rise

And you were laughing at my helmet hat
Laughing at my torch

Go ahead you laugh all you want
I got my philosophy
(It keeps my feet on the ground)
And I trust it like the ground
That’s why my philosophy
Keeps me walking when I’m falling down

I see that there is evil
And I know that there is good
And the in-betweens I never understood

Would you look at me I’m crazy
But I get the job done
I’m crazy but I get the job done

So go ahead and laugh all you want
I got my philosophy
(It keeps my feet on the ground)
And I trust it like the ground
That’s why my philosophy
Keeps me walking when I’m falling down

I pushed you cause I loved you guys
I didn’t realize
That you weren’t having fun
And I dragged you up the stairs
And I told you to fly
You were flapping your arms
Then you started to cry, you were too high

Now you take this all for granted
You take the mortar, block, and glass
And you forget the speech that moved the stone

But it’s really not that you can’t see
The forest from the trees
You just never been out in the woods alone
So you can laugh all you want to

But I’ve got my philosophy
(It keeps my feet on the ground)
And I love you you’re my friend
But you got no philosophy
Now it’s time for this song to end

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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:28:13pm

Amazing kicker at the end of those lyrics.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:29:35pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:30:22pm

I really fear that when this really hits the red states the guns are gonna come out.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:31:06pm

Ben Folds is an interesting pianist.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:32:07pm

re: #4 Joe Bacon 🌹

I really fear that when this really hits the red states the guns are gonna come out.

And conservatives will find out they’ve been lied to for decades and they aren’t the only ones with guns.

All nine of our hospitals in the Nebraska Panhandle are already under armed guard.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:33:05pm

According to the weather channel, there are super cells in western Kentucky. There’s a line on the eastern side of Illinois that is starting to show rotation in multiple areas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:33:55pm
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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:34:33pm

re: #4 Joe Bacon 🌹

I really fear that when this really hits the red states the guns are gonna come out.

Most red areas aren’t going to put up with it. I guarantee you that here in red Texas if someone started waving around a gun, our police would not put up with it.

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dnlS  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:36:26pm

Tempo doesn’t allow for it, but I liked:
I see that there is evil
And I know that there is good
And the in-betweens I never understood

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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:36:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:39:11pm
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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:43:41pm

Initial reports are putting the Jonesboro tornado at an EF-3.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:44:10pm

re: #13 Belafon

Initial reports are putting the Jonesboro tornado at an EF-3.

Ouch. That’s some serious damage.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:44:52pm

So spent most of the day napping and reading “Pale Rider” about the 1918 pandemic. I would say WE HAVE LEARNED NOTHING in 102 years.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:46:47pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

So spent most of the day napping and reading “Pale Rider” about the 1918 pandemic. I would say WE HAVE LEARNED NOTHING in 102 years.

If I had a tape recorder going when Grandma Bacon talked about the pandemic. It was chilling…

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:48:46pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:50:24pm

re: #4 Joe Bacon 🌹

I really fear that when this really hits the red states the guns are gonna come out.

All of mine are still under lock. Didn’t even buy extra ammo before hunkering down—seemed like a cliche.

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:50:38pm

Randy Newman - It’s Money That Matters (Official Video)

It’s money that matters
Hear what I say
It’s money that matters
In the USA

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:51:22pm

The Most Powerful Conservative Couple You’ve Never Heard Of (New York Times, June 7, 2018)

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:51:36pm

The weather channel guy was talking about this video:

The weather guy was pointing out that it almost looks stationary, like it’s growing but not moving. But it was, at around 40 miles per hour.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:54:52pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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The Most Powerful Conservative Couple You’ve Never Heard Of (New York Times, June 7, 2018)

These fuckers keep sending me catalogs the size of freaking phone books which are immediately tossed in the recycle bin. I have never bought anything from them and I never will. I don’t even know how they got my address.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:55:14pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:56:23pm

re: #21 Belafon

The weather channel guy was talking about this video:

[Embedded content]

The weather guy was pointing out that it almost looks stationary, like it’s growing but not moving. But it was, at around 40 miles per hour.

Like Sir Lancelot charging the castle almost.
(Reference for those unfamiliar with it:

Youtube Video)

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:56:36pm

re: #22 The Pie Overlord!

These fuckers keep sending me catalogs the size of freaking phone books which are immediately tossed in the recycle bin. I have never bought anything from them and I never will. I don’t even know how they got my address.

I get them, too. Never ordered a thing from them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:56:45pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

It pains me to agree with this, because there is no fundamental reason why religious people should be in opposition to science. I still believe the two can live harmoniously, if the religious part is approached temperately and with a realistic understanding of what the teachings actually mean. But the fundamentalists are doing their damnedest to make sure that doesn’t happen.

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:57:46pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 6:58:26pm

re: #22 The Pie Overlord!

These fuckers keep sending me catalogs the size of freaking phone books which are immediately tossed in the recycle bin. I have never bought anything from them and I never will. I don’t even know how they got my address.

They send them to me as well. That started when I was elected to my village board.

I think it had something to do with trying to influence shipping decisions by local government in my case. (We always use the Post Office, not commercial shippers who won’t deliver here without threat of a lawsuit.)

They still send me catalogues now. To my house.

If we run out of toilet paper, that’ll do.

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dnlS  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:00:16pm

re: #17 jaunte

I feel like, that if they federal response wasn’t a shit dumpster, nuclear waste ridden coal fire, then these donations would be welcomed by all quarters. The fact that they are using a % diff in wealth in the new gilded age to shame one of the few billionaires that seems to try to live noblesse oblige may or may not help.

Wealth tax would be more effective. Take the money from the Koch’s and Adelson’s of the world. If they don’t like it they can invest it in future businesses that actually solve our problems instead of fake wines and gaud.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:02:54pm

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹🏡

All nine of our hospitals in the Nebraska Panhandle are already under armed guard.

Wait… there are nine hospitals in the panhandle? I thought it was mostly deserted.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:03:14pm

re: #29 dnlS

And there’s no about of money Zuckerberg can donate that will ever forgive all the fucking bullshit on Facebook. Even now with BS info on COVID-19. There’s not enough money to make up for his sins against humanity.

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dnlS  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:04:01pm

re: #31 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That without soul cannot sin

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:04:09pm

re: #30 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Wait… there are nine hospitals in the panhandle? I thought it was mostly deserted.

Each county but two has one hospital.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:04:54pm

re: #31 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And there’s no about of money Zuckerberg can donate that will ever forgive all the fucking bullshit on Facebook. Even now with BS info on COVID-19. There’s not enough money to make up for his sins against humanity.

Which is why Marky Mark will continue to push Republican bullshit because he knows if a Democrat gets in it’s game over for that motherfather. And for the rest of Sacha Baron Cohen’s “Silicon Six” as well!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:06:28pm

Time for something less dystopian … more “Dark Shadows” tonight. Catch y’all later.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:08:15pm

Because a day can’t go by without the Trump Administration sycophants not acting like shitheads:

Trump admin revokes reservation of Native American tribe that welcomed the Pilgrims

The Mashpee Wampanoag have had to fight a decades-long battle to reclaim their ancestral lands and win recognition from the federal government since their first filing in 1976 — and now they’ve had them snatched away again by the Trump administration.

“Today’s action was cruel and it was unnecessary. The Secretary is under no court order to take our land out of trust. He is fully aware that litigation to uphold our status as a tribe eligible for the benefits of the Indian Reorganization Act is ongoing…It begs the question, what is driving our federal trustee’s crusade against our reservation?” wrote Chairman Cedric Cromwell in a statement.

[…]

The House of Representatives has passed a bill, H.R. 312, affirming the tribe’s reservation as trust land, that now lies in the purgatory of Senate Majority Mitch McConnell’s “legislative graveyard.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:08:29pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Each county but two has one hospital.

Our small city in Baja Alabama has two small hospitals and a new med school. In normal times we serve several counties in GA and FL. I suppose DeSantis will let his sick cross the border.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:13:19pm
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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:14:07pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

So spent most of the day napping and reading “Pale Rider” about the 1918 pandemic. I would say WE HAVE LEARNED NOTHING in 102 years.

History 101: Something bad happens. Humans learn and adapt. Bad thing goes away. Humans forget. Something bad happens again. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:15:03pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

My heart breaks for these people. I mentioned in a previous thread, my parents were friends with the first casualty back in fish country. I called them this morning and they told me about it. The plague is hitting close to home.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:17:21pm
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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:18:01pm

re: #40 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My heart breaks for these people. I mentioned in a previous thread, my parents were friends with the first casualty back in fish country. I called them this morning and they told me about it. The plague is hitting close to home.

Yep. As I said downstairs:

May the good lord give us mercy and give trump justice.

I just heard that a member of my parish, Gus, a Korea vet who had many hard memories, has passed. I do not know that it was virus, but I do not know that it wasn’t. In my heart I will hold trump accountable though. I just pray that he did not die alone for I know his relationship with his son was strained.

Lux æterna luceat eis, Domine:

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BigPapa  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:18:39pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:19:14pm

re: #42 William Lewis

May the Lord’s peace be with you and your church family.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:21:11pm

I wonder how many Americans realize that we are still at the front end of the first wave?

All this social distancing and lockdown strategy can do is buy time. And what that means is that there will be another peak once the lockdowns end.

2020 will go down as a most horrible year.

And I am growing in suspicion that Trump will try to do something with the election this fall. I want to believe that enough governors, even those in “red” states, are too proud to let DC dictate the terms of their elections.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:23:17pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

Our small city in Baja Alabama has two small hospitals and a new med school. In normal times we serve several counties in GA and FL. I suppose DeSantis will let his sick cross the border.

My cousin in Michigan was complaining that people from Detroit will be seeking out hospitals in central and western Michigan when they are overwhelmed in Detroit.

I pointed out that will happen everywhere, and if the situation was reversed (the most cases were in Grand Rapids or Traverse City) then people would be headed to Detroit.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:24:39pm

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🏡

You could also point out that all these hospitals in sparsely populated areas only remain operating because of socialism.

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CBGB  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:26:21pm

re: #21 Belafon

Holy shit. That’s incredible footage. I hope there was no loss of life.

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Semper Fi  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:27:34pm

re: #15 The Pie Overlord!

So spent most of the day napping and reading “Pale Rider” about the 1918 pandemic. I would say WE HAVE LEARNED NOTHING in 102 years.

Too many people have little interest in history. It holds us back.

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:28:19pm
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dnlS  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:29:58pm

re: #43 BigPapa

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:32:27pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:34:13pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:36:11pm

The DailyFail is redeeming itself with all this pandemic coverage:

Mount Sinai execs are safely tucked away in their FLORIDA vacation homes as medical staff don garbage bags to protect themselves from the coronavirus, which has already killed a nurse at the New York hospital

Dr Kenneth Davis, the 72-year-old CEO of the Mount Sinai Health System, has been staying at his six-bedroom mansion near Palm Beach for weeks

Dr Arthur Klein, also 72-years-old and president of the Mount Sinai Health Network, has been lodging at his condo in Palm Beach since earlier in the month

The duo appear to be away from the intense battle taking place in the city, which has depleted resources and even killed a medical staff at a Manhattan facility

[…]

On Friday, Dr Davis claimed that his own doctor instructed him to stay in Florida as he is above the age of 70. He added that he had already been in the state as he had been fundraising ‘before this started.’

[…]

‘Do you know that from the time I wake up from the time I go to bed I am totally engaged?’ he huffed. ‘Do you know that I get over 400 emails that I reply to. That on a good day it’s every 90 seconds and that on a bad day it’s almost every minute. That I have teleconferencing with Zoom like constantly. When they don’t have a Zoom, I’m on the phone with them. I mean, please.’

Davis suggested that doctors provided similar directives to Klein.

He also explained that he and Klein had been in contact with China to get 5.5 tons of gear to the hospital system.

Oh, the burden of email. And why do these elites (like Trump) always treat China as a single monolith? You just don’t call up “China”, you call a person, a company, or a government office.

And how telling is it that the Federal government hasn’t already been procuring these supplies?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:38:03pm

On that doctor’s order to stay in Florida - it’s as if they are pretending that, thanks to DeSantis, they don’t realize that Florida is the likely next hotspot in the US.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:41:23pm
What amazes me is there are any human beings left in this country that think Trump knows what he’s doing about this pandemic.

I actually sort of get “liking” him. He sounds like a lot of loudmouths I’ve met who appeal to certain folks. I definitely get “following him.” Hey, I remember Jim Jones. I watched Triumph of the Will. I get thinking Trump hates the people you hate and he’s your weapon against them. And I get thinking that, yeah, he’s a scam artist, but you’re in on the scam and he’d never scam you. That’s what all great scam artists make people think.

But I *do not* get thinking he knows what he’s doing in the situation he finds himself. That is utterly beyond my comprehension

rando commenter

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:43:47pm

Virus don’t care.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:46:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:47:00pm

re: #43 BigPapa

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:51:17pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:52:26pm
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BigPapa  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:53:54pm

Thank you Lizards for the kind words.

Pirro is wasted.

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:54:20pm

re: #61 teleskiguy

People trying to book a Disney vacation in the midst of all this have to be nuts.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:55:59pm

re: #63 jaunte

Fuckface Von Clownstick supporting bargain hunters.

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:56:00pm
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dnlS  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:56:27pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:57:02pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

See Wallyworld, If It’s The Last Thing We Do

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Interesting Times  Mar 28, 2020 • 7:57:33pm

re: #62 BigPapa

Saw this earlier and figured you’d appreciate the first segment:

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:02:58pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Defending Trump’s response requires more and more booze every day.

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BigPapa  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:02:58pm

re: #68 Interesting Times

RUDE! LOL

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Dread Pirate  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:03:38pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:08:01pm

So apparently the king of Thailand is still vacationing in Bavaria, when all other hotels have been closed.

At a time when Thailand is also suffering the pandemic, and it’s getting worse there.

It is reported that the king took to Bavaria with him his four wives and his harem (supposedly twenty strong.)

Who takes their wives and their harem on vacation? Seriously, one group would be more than enough, I presume.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:10:30pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:12:16pm

re: #63 jaunte

People trying to book a Disney vacation in the midst of all this have to be nuts.

People are still taking cruises.

People are fucking stupid.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:14:15pm

Ya know, the last few days I have been riffing on the “Loc-Nar” from Heavy Metal and joking it has taken up residence in my yard. It’s not a joke any more. It’s sitting in OUR White House and we must defeat it. Where is our Taarna? Oh, That’s right, we ditched her for an old white guy.

Heavy Metal / Bar scene

Yeah, I am feeling a bit bitter tonight.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:17:06pm

re: #43 BigPapa

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If you are not scared then you’re ignorant and/or not paying attention.

Quit watching the news all of the time. It has been really hard for me, i almost constantly listened to the news. Now, I watch the network nightly news and only on local news cast and try to limit myself to online news. If there is real news or a breakthrough it will make itself known.

I have been having problems with panic attacks and stress. I have employees and their families counting on me to make the right call, I don’t have the luxury right now of getting in the weeds.

I hate having to rely on our current government. We will get through this if we use our heads, follow science based and common sense orders, stay more aware than the people we are dealing with and constantly wash our hands.

These are scary times that none of us have dealt with before. If you aren’t scared or are making light of these times then I have no use of you.

Long story short, your wife is right to be scared and is a good person for being so. Give her my best, we will get through this.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:17:44pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:17:52pm

Night Lizards. I am bailing before I cross the line. Sleep well and may the the Goddess smile down upon you and yours.

Youtube Video

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:20:53pm

Until we replace him and then he’ll be 46th, then 47th…

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:22:23pm

re: #79 Belafon

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Until we replace him and then he’ll be 46th, then 47th…

Not sure if I am more tired of George Conway or his wife?

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:23:14pm

re: #80 b.d. (We’re on our own, Vote!)

Not sure if I am more tired of George Conway or his wife?

I’m not going to use him as an authority, but I did think this one was funny.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:24:17pm

re: #74 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

People are still taking cruises.

People are fucking stupid.

No, they’re not. They are stuck on cruise ships that no-one will allow to disembark passengers.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:26:24pm

re: #81 Belafon

I’m not going to use him as an authority, but I did think this one was funny.

I just see them as an eviler and more dishonest version of James Carville/Mary Joe Matalin. Making this all just a Twitter game is a horrible approach.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:32:53pm

Shouldn’t the loss of taste symptom be enough to shut down Mar-A-Lago and Trump Tower for good?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:33:42pm

South Korea has tested a higher percentage of their population than any other populous nation (the latter needed to be said because places like the Faroe Islands are going all out to test.)

South Korea moved their new case growth from exponential to linear fairly early, around March 7th.

Nevertheless, the linear growth in total cases since then, with daily additions around 100 per day, has resulted in nearly a fourth of all cases coming during the linear growth stage.

Furthermore, half of all deaths have occurred the past 12 days or so.

Their total active cases have been declining linearly since about March 15th. But with the continual addition of cases daily, the total active cases will not hit zero, but soon stabilize near 2k.

And then… if they lift their own lockdowns and social distancing, there will be a second wave.

This is a long haul, all the way through 2020. Sorry that this is not what we want to hear, but this is a slog that will be around for quite some time.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:33:49pm

re: #79 Belafon

Until we replace him and then he’ll be 46th, then 47th…

Have no fear, the GOP can dig up someone worse.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:36:33pm

About that order permitting take-out mixed drinks if they’re covered issued by Gov. Ricketts here:

‘To-go’ cocktails of up to 1 gallon allowed under Ricketts’ emergency order (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:41:06pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡

About that order permitting take-out mixed drinks if they’re covered issued by Gov. Ricketts here:

‘To-go’ cocktails of up to 1 gallon allowed under Ricketts’ emergency order (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

A growler full of margarita please! classic lime is fine.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:42:01pm

re: #63 jaunte

People trying to book a Disney vacation in the midst of all this have to be nuts.

re: #74 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

People are still taking cruises.

People are fucking stupid.

re: #82 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

No, they’re not. They are stuck on cruise ships that no-one will allow to disembark passengers.

This month I’ve received three mailers from Vantage Travel.
First was a lager heavy stock large ‘folder’ brochure.
Then I got a magazine. Followed by an even thicker magazine.
I anticipate next I’ll be getting a large hardcover coffee table book (half /)

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:42:10pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡

About that order permitting take-out mixed drinks if they’re covered issued by Gov. Ricketts here:

‘To-go’ cocktails of up to 1 gallon allowed under Ricketts’ emergency order (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

We’re all New Orleans now.

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:42:52pm

Only a gallon?

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dnlS  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:42:59pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I’m restarting the pre-prohibition drinks. There are really good ones and then not so much. A good site I’d found, pre child, is Scientist McGee. I’m glad to say he’s continued the tradition:
scientistmcgee.files.wordpress.com

His 2019 update on drinks, which I think everyone should try is here:

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:45:08pm

re: #16 Joe Bacon 🌹

If I had a tape recorder going when Grandma Bacon talked about the pandemic. It was chilling…

Twenty five years ago, in 1995, I spoke with Ruth Brikeen in Kerrville, TX. She was on her third husband, having outlived the two previous. (He could drive!) She was born in 1901. She grew up in Ballinger, Texas, where my mother-in-law also grew up. My wife’s grandfather, Ross Smith, was the mailman in Ballinger. My wife’s grandmother married him in 1918. She was a year older than Ruth, they were friends, and my mother-in-law was born in 1922.

Ruth was 18 when a troop train came through town in 1919.

That was the basic intercontinental transportation at the time. The train was full of sick soldiers. Within two weeks, the virus was kicking ass in a small central Texas town, a county seat, with maybe 8,000 people. Ross Smith, as the mailman, was the primary source of knowledge of who was ill. He delivered the mail every day. If the mail piled up, he called the Sheriff, who sent doctors to the home.

They often found whole families dead. Sometimes, there would be dead adults with a child or two still alive.

It was, Ruth said, an unmitigated hell.

And that’s all I’ve got to say about that.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:45:50pm

re: #82 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

No, they’re not. They are stuck on cruise ships that no-one will allow to disembark passengers.

When was the last sailing? They’ve been on these floating death traps for 8 weeks?

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:47:39pm

re: #88 William Lewis

A growler full of margarita please! classic lime is fine.

Oh ho! Never mind that, just found an unopened bag of poweder sugar in the cupboard. Cheap rum, powdered sugar, water & lemon = classic Daiquiri :)

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dnlS  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:48:33pm

re: #92 dnlS

To try:
Last Word
Aviation
Vieux Carre
Sazerac
Remember the Maine
Gin Fizz
The Correspondent

not on the list, easy for the licorice/anise lover:
Good and plenty: 1:1 ouzo (or similar) and creme de cacao (white) on the rocks
Also any brown liquor with licorice jelly beans (chewed, in glass, in mouth = all good)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:52:15pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:52:18pm

re: #94 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

When was the last sailing? They’ve been on these floating death traps for 8 weeks?

Cruise lines started cancelling around March 12, a bit less than eight weeks ago. (I know it seems like forever.) As to “floating death traps,” I’d rather be on a cruise ship now than in a lot of states. At least they’d be observing proper quarantine regimens.

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:53:39pm

re: #96 dnlS

To try:
Last Word
Aviation
Vieux Carre
Sazerac
Remember the Maine
Gin Fizz
The Correspondent

not on the list, easy for the licorice/anise lover:
Good and plenty: 1:1 ouzo (or similar) and creme de cacao (white) on the rocks
Also any brown liquor with licorice jelly beans (chewed, in glass, in mouth = all good)

If I had the ingredients, a couple of French 75’s would 1) taste good and 2) be quite appropriate, all things considered.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:56:22pm

The worst fucking people.

Yeah, it’s supposed to be a joke, IT’S FROM ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK LIBTARDS!!! Fuck these people.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2020 • 8:58:17pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

A NYC resident is dying every 6.5 minutes, and this fuckmook thinks this is funny.

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jaunte  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:01:07pm
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Dread Pirate  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:01:08pm
104
Jay C  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:02:45pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

“Technical difficulties”?

Trouble getting the cork out?

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:05:50pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:06:18pm

re: #104 Jay C

“Technical difficulties”?

Trouble getting the cork out plastic spout of the box.

FTFY

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:06:22pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

The worst fucking people.

Yeah, it’s supposed to be a joke, IT’S FROM ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK LIBTARDS!!! Fuck these people.

People like that I why I stay off twitter. Because if I were on twitter I’d get banned for telling him that “I look forward to the day that the ICC in the Hague sentences you to life without parole for crimes against humanity”. And I’m sure Jack wouldn’t like that.

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:12:05pm

Heh.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:13:29pm

re: #104 Jay C

“Technical difficulties”?

Trouble getting the cork out?

Someone had to clean the vomit off her in the ladies room. I wouldn’t want to go into the green room on a regular day, let alone tonight.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:16:09pm

re: #106 BlueSpotinAL

FTFY

What’s she into? MD 20-20, Night Train, Cisco?
///

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:19:36pm

re: #82 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

No, they’re not. They are stuck on cruise ships that no-one will allow to disembark passengers.

The plague cruise ship Zaandam with ill passengers and four deaths was initially barred from traversing the Panama Canal to return to its planned destination of Fort Lauderdale; other ports in Latin America would not allow it to dock. Apparently, Panama Canal has reconsidered and the ship may be able to continue — but there’s no guarantee that Fort Lauderdale will accept it.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:23:14pm

re: #74 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

People are still taking cruises.

People are fucking stupid.

To be fair, there are a fair number of 6+ month cruises that could have been at sea when this started.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:24:55pm

re: #107 William Lewis

People like that I why I stay off twitter. Because if I were on twitter I’d get banned for telling him that “I look forward to the day that the ICC in the Hague sentences you to life without parole for crimes against humanity”. And I’m sure Jack wouldn’t like that.

Scratch a libertarian (Jack), find a Nazi (Miller).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:25:02pm
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thecommodore  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:25:51pm

Right wing Twitter thinks Greg Gutfeld killed it tonight.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:27:19pm

re: #111 Hecuba’s daughter

The plague cruise ship Zaandam with ill passengers and four deaths was initially barred from traversing the Panama Canal to return to its planned destination of Fort Lauderdale; other ports in Latin America would not allow it to dock. Apparently, Panama Canal has reconsidered and the ship may be able to continue — but there’s no guarantee that Fort Lauderdale will accept it.

Ghost ship.

I can almost see the these ships doing what the Navy did in WW2, taking the bodies of the dead up onto the top deck, giving them honors and salutes, and sliding them into the ocean as war dead, returning them to the sea.

Necessary in WW2, horrific in 2020.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:28:53pm
OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — Gov. Pete Ricketts on Saturday extended his enforceable order limiting gatherings to 10 people to seven more counties in Nebraska, as 10 new cases of COVID-19 were reported in the Omaha area.

Ricketts’ order now includes Butler, Hall, Hamilton, Merrick, Polk, Seward, and York counties and effectively shuts down the dining rooms of restaurants and bars and shutters theaters, churches, schools and gyms. It also limits social gatherings such as weddings and funerals to 10 people.

The area covered under the new extension covers some 123,000 people — including those in Grand Island, Central City and York — in a block spanning central and southeastern Nebraska.

(more)

More than half the state’s population is now under lockdown. We’re not on lockdown, just locked into the Panhandle.

starherald.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:30:34pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

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So somebody mainlined some heroin and still went live on Fox…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:32:11pm

Poor bastard

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:39:10pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Have no fear, the GOP can dig up someone worse.

Yes.

The Mercers are grooming Jim Jordan and Tim Scott…

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:39:33pm

re: #111 Hecuba’s daughter

The plague cruise ship Zaandam with ill passengers and four deaths was initially barred from traversing the Panama Canal to return to its planned destination of Fort Lauderdale; other ports in Latin America would not allow it to dock. Apparently, Panama Canal has reconsidered and the ship may be able to continue — but there’s no guarantee that Fort Lauderdale will accept it.

Yes, as we know, Florida has been so successful in keeping covid-19 at bay that accepting some from the Zaandam would be dangerous for them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:41:37pm

re: #118 Joe Bacon 🌹

So somebody mainlined some heroin and still went live on Fox…

So either Jeanine is heading into rehab tomorrow — an unlikely destination in this time of coronavirus — or she’s going on unemployment. Are there any other any likely alternatives?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:43:36pm

re: #122 Hecuba’s daughter

So either Jeanine is heading into rehab tomorrow — an unlikely destination in this time of coronavirus — or she’s going on unemployment. Are there any other any likely alternatives?

They keep her on the air. She has quite a following. As long as that following continues watching, why would they pull her?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:43:43pm

re: #122 Hecuba’s daughter

So either Jeanine is heading into rehab tomorrow — an unlikely destination in this time of coronavirus — or she’s going on unemployment. Are there any other any likely alternatives?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:47:07pm

re: #21 Belafon

Yeah, when it looks like it’s not moving then it’s coming straight at you. There was not NEARLY enough horizontal movement for the guy to be recording that calmly for that long, especially not given the rate that those power flashes got closer.

Safety first, then film.

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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:51:48pm

In 1919, the infection vector into the rural US was railroads. In 2020, it will be truck stops.

Take a look at the size of Little America in Wyoming.

wyoming.littleamerica.com

It’s huge.

Thousands of people and employees interact every day. And there are thousands of similar truck stops across the country. This is the vector for the red states that has not even been mentioned.

But we will be hearing about it soon.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:52:12pm

re: #124 Joe Bacon 🌹

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2020 • 9:55:49pm

re: #115 thecommodore

Right wing Twitter thinks Greg Gutfeld killed it tonight.

Who?

< googles name >

Oh. Just another Faux liar.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:00:44pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:08:25pm

re: #127 Hecuba’s daughter

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:09:08pm
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austin_blue  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:09:43pm

Well, after midnight. I’m for the rack. Sweet scaly dreams, my friends.

Oh, and watch the truck stops. They are going to blow up as vectors in the next few days.

Guaranteed.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:10:55pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:11:34pm
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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:12:01pm

re: #132 austin_blue

Any map showing where the virus has been detected shows I35 from San Antonio to Dallas, with dots being stops all along the route.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:13:19pm
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Dread Pirate  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:13:19pm

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:16:28pm

A message from my mayor:

We have not had a confirmed case of COVID-19 in two days now. The City of Fate has a confirmed case now. This makes the total for Rockwall County at 4. Please keep on taking care of your family and mine by Staying At Home and washing your hands regularly. Our citizens have done a great job adjusting to this, so please keep it up and together we will get through this together.

Even though we’re red, were not going anywhere until we think it’s passed. Also, people here are buying a lot of takeout.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:17:12pm

Why the hell is anyone writing a story about Lucian Wintrich?
New Yorkers are throwing ‘corona potlucks’ and visiting ‘speakeasies’

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uriel  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:17:18pm

re: #54 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The DailyFail is redeeming itself with all this pandemic coverage:

Mount Sinai execs are safely tucked away in their FLORIDA vacation homes as medical staff don garbage bags to protect themselves from the coronavirus, which has already killed a nurse at the New York hospital

Oh, the burden of email.

There is not a constellation of words that could describe my disgust of people who claim that they work super hard because ‘meetings and emails.’

If it’s so goddamned hard, go get a job in fast food. Or hospital housekeeping. Or your average warehouse.

I mean, fuck, FedEx is hiring package handlers constantly! you don’t even have to fill out a real application!

Of course that’s because it’s physically draining and wildly dangerous, and your options are: follow the safety rules and get fired for being too slow, or don’t follow the rules- which means you WILL get injured, and they WILL blame it on you. And you may get fired. So the attrition rate is close to 100% year over year. I tried it for about two months before I realized it was a countdown until a muffler or box of free weights came down on my head.

I think the breaking point was watching a woman with a leg-cast chucking truck tires from one belt to another. Because that’s normal and safe.

But fucking emails? Meetings? Bring it on! I’ll do it for a fraction of what these guys get for sitting on their ass between ‘business’ golf outings and lunches.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:18:48pm

I’m getting a real bad feeling that all hell is going to break loose within the next two weeks. If we thought it was bad now we ain’t seen nothing yet.

Keep remembering what Grandma told me about the 1918 pandemic when people literally dropped dead a couple hours after they started coughing. The DC government took over warehouses and meeting halls under eminent domain and stacked bodies in seized buildings as if they were cordwood. At the peak they cremated corpses and placed unclaimed bodies in a potters field. Grandma said it got so bad that funeral parlors got backlogged and there had to be mass funerals. Everyone wore masks dipped in camphor.

The press blamed Wilson for the epidemic and that’s the reason why the Democrats got slaughtered at the ballot box in 1918.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:19:12pm

(sigh)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:21:48pm

re: #139 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Why the hell is anyone writing a story about Lucian Wintrich?
New Yorkers are throwing ‘corona potlucks’ and visiting ‘speakeasies’

1) It’s the Screw York Post

2) Little Lucien is one of the “new breed” of GOP hate mongers so quite naturally our Corporate Conrolled Conservative Press will kiss his ass.

3) Little Lucien is deluded enough to believe that what happened at Mar-A-Lardo won’t happen at his shindig…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:26:30pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

We had the same experience here in Czech Republic - those tests only had a 20% to 30% accuracy rate. Essentially useless, though the Czech government was too polite to officially say anything about it.

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BigPapa  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:27:46pm

re: #143 Joe Bacon 🌹

3) Little Lucien is deluded enough to believe that what happened at Mar-A-Lardo won’t happen at his shindig…

I lobbied hard to get Coron-a-Lago approved, in case you’d be obliged.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:28:58pm

re: #132 austin_blue

re: #135 Belafon

Yeah, just gonna say that’s like something straight out of “The Stand”.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:40:24pm

#SadChuckle

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electrotek  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:41:36pm

Harpy still trying to maintain relevance:

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uriel  Mar 28, 2020 • 10:52:31pm

re: #148 electrotek

Harpy still trying to maintain relevance:

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I don’t see what the problem is. Isn’t that what Pam *wants* to happen? She’s basically been agitating for exactly that for going on 20 years now. Seems like she should approve.

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BigPapa  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:00:01pm

Garrison is fooking bongos

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:02:29pm

re: #150 BigPapa

Garrison is fooking bongos

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He’s showing that he’s a full blown Antisemite.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:03:35pm

re: #150 BigPapa

Garrison is fooking bongos

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Until these people start referencing Vexille, I can’t take them seriously.

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electrotek  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:14:55pm

re: #149 uriel

I don’t see what the problem is. Isn’t that what Pam *wants* to happen? She’s basically been agitating for exactly that for going on 20 years now. Seems like she should approve.

She’s being thrown into further irrelevancy since nobody cares for her even in the alt-right world.

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BigPapa  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:21:26pm

re: #151 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’s showing that he’s a full blown Antisemite.

Pull back the fetishization of Israel and coddling of prominent rabid right wing Jews and the right is all up in antisemitism.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 28, 2020 • 11:50:30pm

re: #143 Joe Bacon 🌹

1) It’s the Screw York Post

2) Little Lucien is one of the “new breed” of GOP hate mongers so quite naturally our Corporate Conrolled Conservative Press will kiss his ass.

3) Little Lucien is deluded enough to believe that what happened at Mar-A-Lardo won’t happen at his shindig…

Lucian Wintrich, a former White House reporter and advertisement hand, is one of them. The 31-year-old contrarian recently hosted a “corona potluck” at his small but chic East Village apartment.

Asshats. Dipweed from the Stupidest Man on the Internet’s blog for displaced conspiracy theorists is news for the Post?

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:28:26am

re: #151 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’s showing that he’s a full blown Antisemite.

Always has been. He’s pulled his punches, but the anti-Semitism was always there. Always.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:32:52am

re: #154 BigPapa

Pull back the fetishization of Israel and coddling of prominent rabid right wing Jews and the right is all up in antisemitism.

Philo-Semitism is the term that means, for ex., “Jews are good with money!”
But that’s not a compliment; People can and usually do flip this to hate in an instant.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 29, 2020 • 1:14:10am

Ann Ashford’s virtual town hall delayed by person posting porn during video chat (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

Ann Ashford is one of three Democrats facing off in the May 12 Democratic Primary. The winner will face Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE2) in November.

Candidates in Nebraska are taking their campaigns on-line to avoid issues with the novel corornavirus. Some asshat crashed her virtual town hall by posting endless amounts of porn to her chat (I presume a Republican did that).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 1:22:08am

re: #4 Joe Bacon 🌹

I really fear that when this really hits the red states the guns are gonna come out.

They are already programmed to blame it on New York Jews and liberals for coming around and licking doorknobs…

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 29, 2020 • 1:34:18am

re: #7 Belafon

According to the weather channel, there are super cells in western Kentucky. There’s a line on the eastern side of Illinois that is starting to show rotation in multiple areas.

4:30 AM here in NW PA right now. Woken up to big thunder and raining like mad, 60F temps. Supposed to get near 70F today and then plunge back down to the low 40’s later this evening and overnight.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 1:45:13am

re: #104 Jay C

“Technical difficulties”?

Trouble getting the cork out?

´She was on her knees calling Ralph and Earl on the big white telephone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 1:46:50am

re: #119 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Poor bastard

A baby tiger born at zoo in Mexico has been named “Covid”

not at all, they named him after a fearsome killer

and everybody will know which year he was born

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 29, 2020 • 2:15:04am

re: #84 b.d. (We’re on our own, Vote!)

Shouldn’t the loss of taste symptom be enough to shut down Mar-A-Lago and Trump Tower for good?

Gold-plated everything and Trump-brand steaks implies that there never was any taste there to start with.
//

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 29, 2020 • 2:22:12am

re: #116 austin_blue

Ghost ship.

I can almost see the these ships doing what the Navy did in WW2, taking the bodies of the dead up onto the top deck, giving them honors and salutes, and sliding them into the ocean as war dead, returning them to the sea.

Necessary in WW2, horrific in 2020.

Burial at sea a long-standing naval tradition (for obvious reasons).

en.wikipedia.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 2:38:35am

re: #164 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Burial at sea a long-standing naval tradition (for obvious reasons).

en.wikipedia.org

and for Bin Laden

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 29, 2020 • 2:51:32am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and for Bin Laden

And Adolph Eichmann.

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teleskiguy  Mar 29, 2020 • 2:58:13am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 29, 2020 • 3:07:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 3:08:04am

re: #164 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Burial at sea a long-standing naval tradition (for obvious reasons).

en.wikipedia.org

I remember as a kid of no more than six years old watching a WW2 Film, The Enemy Below, a U-Boat vs ship film, that ended with a burial at sea.

I found that all so terribly sad and touching that I went and sobbed myself to sleep.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 29, 2020 • 3:12:01am

re: #164 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Burial at sea a long-standing naval tradition (for obvious reasons).

en.wikipedia.org

It is also permitted to those retired from the maritime services (though your estate has to pay to ship your remains to Norfolk or San Diego).

When I was in the Navy, a short time after we pulled out to sea from Norfolk there would be funeral services aboard ship, as noted in the Wikipedia article above.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 29, 2020 • 3:13:19am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember as a kid of no more than six years old watching a WW2 Film, The Enemy Below, a U-Boat vs ship film, that ended with a burial at sea.

I found that all so terribly sad and touching that I went and sobbed myself to sleep.

A lot of naval combat films use that as a way to wrap things up after the climactic fight.

I did not see the movie version of _The Enemy Below_ until a number of years after having read the book. A lot of my late pre-teen and early teen reading was picking through my parents’ bookcase or stuff my older siblings had gotten. So I ended up reading a lot of late-50s/early 60s paperbacks. The Ian Fleming James Bond novels among them.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 29, 2020 • 3:16:13am

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹🏡

It is also permitted to those retired from the maritime services (though your estate has to pay to ship your remains to Norfolk or San Diego).

When I was in the Navy, a short time after we pulled out to sea from Norfolk there would be funeral services aboard ship, as noted in the Wikipedia article above.

My father’s ashes were not disposed of in the Catholic manner. We never told his sisters that while most of his ashes were interred in a cemetery in Pennsylvania bits of him were also scattered in a great number of places by my mother. Both oceans, a few mountain tops, his favorite trout fishing stream, etc. My mother believed in celebrating the life that had been lived and preserving the memories of same.

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teleskiguy  Mar 29, 2020 • 3:19:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 3:21:22am

re: #172 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

My father’s ashes were not disposed of in the Catholic manner. We never told his sisters that while most of his ashes were interred in a cemetery in Pennsylvania bits of him were also scattered in a great number of places by my mother.

Yes, the Catholic Church in Germany has come out in opposition to the ever more popular practice of being buried under a tree in a consecrated forest, I guess they find it too “pagan”.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2020 • 3:56:20am

re: #111 Hecuba’s daughter

The plague cruise ship Zaandam with ill passengers and four deaths was initially barred from traversing the Panama Canal to return to its planned destination of Fort Lauderdale; other ports in Latin America would not allow it to dock. Apparently, Panama Canal has reconsidered and the ship may be able to continue — but there’s no guarantee that Fort Lauderdale will accept it.

Transiting the canal requires putting at least one highly specialized local pilot aboard for the best part of a day or more.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 4:32:16am

re: #111 Hecuba’s daughter

Apparently, Panama Canal has reconsidered and the [Zaandam] may be able to continue — but there’s no guarantee that Fort Lauderdale will accept it.

“I like the numbers being where they are. I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn’t our fault,“

another early-crisis Trump classic

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2020 • 4:49:02am

Just noticed that Weather Underground is showing local CV cases to the resolution of the counties. Showing 4 for us, though other local sources are a bit higher.

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jeffreyw  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:08:38am

Good morning!

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Axolotl  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:31:11am

re: #85 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yea, I just don’t see a way out of this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:34:14am

re: #85 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This is a long haul, all the way through 2020. Sorry that this is not what we want to hear, but this is a slog that will be around for quite some time.

It will not be whipped until we develop a a vaccine (which should be made mandatory) or a cure/treatment (which should be denied to all those who nonetheless refuse treatment on anything but certified medial grounds)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:42:13am

re: #139 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Why the hell is anyone writing a story about Lucian Wintrich?
New Yorkers are throwing ‘corona potlucks’ and visiting ‘speakeasies’

It’s just a different take on Let Grandma Die. Kids are bored. Doctor is bored and going to his local underground speakeasy.

Blah blah Herd immunity… Without mentioning what happens when you go that route.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:42:51am

By this point, if you’re surprised by this, then you’re either willfully ignorant…or in a coma:

According to the report, one White House adviser stated at the time, “If tonight isn’t Trump saying, ‘This is bad and could get very worse, you need to take every precaution necessary,’ then he can kiss a second term goodbye.”

However, the president ignored that advice, with Politico noting, “Instead, the president, in hastily arranged remarks, said he was barring all travel from Europe and promised that health insurers had agreed to cover all coronavirus treatments. Investors panicked — would necessary cargo still be allowed to come into the U.S.? Insurers were taken aback — they had only agreed to cover coronavirus tests, not all treatment.”

And like all experts in his admin, he ignored them to listen to the sniveling little weasels who told him what he wanted to hear, namely that everything was alright and his leadership would be that which saved the nation.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:47:02am

re: #182 Targetpractice

And if HRC had won we would probably be in better shape and getting daily briefs from Dr Fauci instead of DT verbally beating up reporters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:48:20am

re: #182 Targetpractice

And like all experts in his admin, he ignored them to listen to the sniveling little weasels who told him what he wanted to hear, namely that everything was alright and his leadership would be that which saved the nation.

I think it was tunnel vision: he saw a strong economy as the best chance to get him re-elected and COVID was a threat to the economy.

The notion that strong, decisive leadership in times of crisis could have helped him even if the economy suffered did not seem to occur to him at the critical moment, as he lacks the skills and temperament (along with the resources and advisers) to display such leadership.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:48:43am

re: #183 PhillyPretzel

And if HRC had won we would probably be in better shape and getting daily briefs from Dr Fauci instead of DT verbally beating up reporters.

True, but that would be because Hillary wouldn’t be so attention-starved that she’d use the daily briefings as a substitute for the rallies she was unable to hold due to social distancing rules.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:48:44am

Lovely. Off to the grocery store to (try and) pick up the last few items that they were out of stock. Hopefully we will beat the crowd. See you in a few. And yes, we WILL be wearing gloves and masks.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:50:48am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think it was tunnel vision: he saw a strong economy as the best chance to get him re-elected and COVID was a threat to the economy.

The notion that strong, decisive leadership in times of crisis could have helped him even if the economy suffered did not seem to occur to him at the critical moment, as he lacks the skills and temperament (along with the resources and advisers) to display such leadership.

Personally thinking he was acting in the way he has been described as acting while in charge of his organization: A dictator who gives orders and expects underlings to make them happen, with the understanding that any positive results will be attributed to his “leadership” and any negative results blamed upon his soon-to-be-fired subordinates. After all, in his mind, his ideas are awesome so if they fail then that must mean that the people he charged to enact them did something “wrong.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 5:51:16am

re: #185 Targetpractice

True, but that would be because Hillary wouldn’t be so attention-starved that she’d use the daily briefings as a substitute for the rallies she was unable to hold due to social distancing rules.

and she would be ripped apart my the media for

a) everything she did and

b) everything she did not do.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:00:44am

I’d put this behind the private tag but it never works on my iPad so fuck it, we’ll do it live:

Husband works in construction and is the senior superintendent overseeing 4 buildings being built simultaneously on a new city college campus. Construction is considered essential so he goes to the job site everyday. There is only one person more senior than him on the site, the project manager — who stays in his trailer all day everyday while husband is the guy in the field. On Wednesday an employee for a subcontractor went home sick at noon. At 6:50am on Thursday he went to the ER, unable to breathe. By 3:00pm that day he tested positive and is now in ICU. Husband found out at 5:30pm yesterday via an email attachment the subcontractor sent out laying out the timeline. Husband is fucking furious. Project manager said he would call him to talk about it and husband told him not to call, that it would not be a good conversation.

So husband’s boss knew. People in the office knew. Did they tell husband’s boss not to tell him? Because if that turns out to be the case, he will likely not be employed there anymore as of tomorrow. Fuckers.

No opportunity to do contact tracing because husband doesn’t know exactly who it is, since he works for another company. He thinks he knows who it is but not sure. So how the fuck do we know who might need to quarantine?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:02:24am

I’ve said Trump would try to cancel the election in November. He Knows he’s fucked if he loses. And I truly do think he’s being incompetent on purpose. Not to say he could ever be competent. Now, if voter registration is hampered by the virus, that could very well spell victory for him. He knows he’s done if more and more people vote. So what better way than to screw with voter registration.

nbcnews.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:22:05am

re: #189 Flying Squirrel Girl

I’d put this behind the private tag but it never works on my iPad so fuck it, we’ll do it live:

Husband works in construction and is the senior superintendent overseeing 4 buildings being built simultaneously on a new city college campus. Construction is considered essential so he goes to the job site everyday. There is only one person more senior than him on the site, the project manager — who stays in his trailer all day everyday while husband is the guy in the field. On Wednesday an employee for a subcontractor went home sick at noon. At 6:50am on Thursday he went to the ER, unable to breathe. By 3:00pm that day he tested positive and is now in ICU. Husband found out at 5:30pm yesterday via an email attachment the subcontractor sent out laying out the timeline. Husband is fucking furious. Project manager said he would call him to talk about it and husband told him not to call, that it would not be a good conversation.

So husband’s boss knew. People in the office knew. Did they tell husband’s boss not to tell him? Because if that turns out to be the case, he will likely not be employed there anymore as of tomorrow. Fuckers.

No opportunity to do contact tracing because husband doesn’t know exactly who it is, since he works for another company. He thinks he knows who it is but not sure. So how the fuck do we know who might need to quarantine?

Your husband and everyone on that worksite should quarantine for the next two weeks.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:23:51am

US has the worst coronavirus response in the world. Soon thousands will be dying everyday.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:30:59am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It will not be whipped until we develop a a vaccine (which should be made mandatory) or a cure/treatment (which should be denied to all those who nonetheless refuse treatment on anything but certified medial grounds)

We won’t deny people care, but the anti-vaccers will make sure there is a large segment of vulnerable people succumbing to this virus every year. If we are lucky, it won’t mutate a lot every year like the flu.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:37:34am

re: #192 NO SMOCKING GUN!

US has the worst coronavirus response in the world. Soon thousands will be dying everyday.

[Embedded content]

And yet wingnuts will go to the polls in November insisting that “it could have been worse,” no matter how many people die or are permanently maimed.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:37:39am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:40:32am

re: #194 Targetpractice

And yet wingnuts will go to the polls in November insisting that “it could have been worse,” no matter how many people die or are permanently maimed.

Since a very large percentage of Trump’s base are in the vulnerable population, one wonders if watching their friends and loved ones sicken and die will penetrate the cocoon of denial.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:42:05am

This is what exponential looks like.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:46:18am

re: #197 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This is what exponential looks like.

[Embedded content]

What’s fucking terrifying is not the rate at which the deaths are multiplying so much as the speed that people are being reported as succumbing to the virus. It seems we don’t go a day without hearing about someone who was fine or just had a cough one day and was dead within 72-96 hours later.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:48:14am

re: #198 Targetpractice

And that is one of the many reasons why I decided to use my sick days and stay at home and on the internet.

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unproven innocence  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:48:21am

For a few days now, I’ve been troubled by one aspect of the info available on covid19.healthdata.org
—namely, projections for # deaths. Compared to my own simplistic modeling, they seemed to be way too low, by a factor of about 20 to 40.

Now I understand why. Excerpt from healthdata.org

Length of the epidemic

Why do your estimates only go until July? Does that mean the outbreak will be over then?

Our model says that social distancing will likely lead to the end of the first wave of the epidemic by early June. The question of whether there will be a second wave of the epidemic will depend on what we do to avoid reintroducing COVID-19 into the population. By end the of the first wave of the epidemic, an estimated 97% of the population of the United States will still be susceptible to the disease, so avoiding reintroduction of COVID-19 through mass screening, contact tracing, and quarantine will be essential to avoid a second wave.

The italicized (and bolded by me) part is why. I’ve been assuming one wave, perhaps slowed/stretched out significantly by social-distancing, self-isolation, ramping up testing, etc.

In summary, the published # deaths estimates are (currently) for only about 3% of our population(s) infected in the near future, so read the numbers with that in mind.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:52:33am

re: #150 BigPapa

Garrison is fooking bongos

[Embedded content]

That looks more like Bill Gates than Soros

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:53:52am

re: #150 BigPapa

Garrison is fooking bongos

I just cant even

at all

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:55:33am

re: #200 unproven innocence

Is that possible? That 97% will not have been affected at all (got it, survived it or died, or was asymptomatic, and assumingly now has immunity)? Is that possible??

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:58:59am

Germans are the best at swears

Translation:
SPIEGEL: Herr Kinski, two weeks ago the world seemed completely normal …

KINSKI: What are you talking about, you utter moron? You come in here full of shit and ask me this fucking question?! You are crazy, a complete lunatic. Kiss my ass, dude!

SPIEGEL: Herr Münchinger, two weeks ago the world seemed completely normal …

MÜNCHINGER: The world was completely fucked up! As backward as cave people! That’s how it was!

Maybe Wendell has a better translation.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 6:59:28am

re: #199 PhillyPretzel

And that is one of the many reasons why I decided to use my sick days and stay at home and on the internet.

As Clint said in The Outlaw Josey Wales, dying ain’t a good way of making a living.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:01:32am

re: #193 NO SMOCKING GUN!

We won’t deny people care, but the anti-vaccers will make sure there is a large segment of vulnerable people succumbing to this virus every year. If we are lucky, it won’t mutate a lot every year like the flu.

Anti-vaxx ringleaders should be rounded up and sent to the Hague for trial. The courts in this country have consistently ruled that disseminating dangerous misinformation in an emergency, or to create an emergency, is NOT Constitutionally protected free speech. Think “Fire!” in a crowded theater. 50 years of drug/pop culture outhouse law indoctrination would lead millions to assume otherwise. “But who would decide what’s factual and what isn’t?” they would reflexively screech. Courts make determinations of fact all the time, it is part of their job. If not for the financial, and therefore political power of “Big Woo” and its allied Evangelical religious grift, these sociopaths would have been shut down long ago.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:02:08am

re: #196 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Since a very large percentage of Trump’s base are in the vulnerable population, one wonders if watching their friends and loved ones sicken and die will penetrate the cocoon of denial.

These are people who saw the country collapsing during the Great Recession and still were convinced that the answer was allowing major banks and corporations to go out of business because the people who had all the money told them that it was the right idea.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:05:12am

I wonder what kind of zombie apocalypse is going on in Russia just now? Anyone have a good source?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:06:41am

re: #208 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wonder what kind of zombie apocalypse is going on in Russia just now? Anyone have a good source?

Called Debbie in Siberia. Her helpline went to voicemail.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:06:55am

re: #206 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Anti-vaxx ringleaders should be rounded up and sent to the Hague for trial. The courts in this country have consistently ruled that disseminating dangerous misinformation in an emergency, or to create an emergency, is NOT Constitutionally protected free speech. Think “Fire!” in a crowded theater. 50 years of drug/pop culture outhouse law indoctrination would lead millions to assume otherwise. “But who would decide what’s factual and what isn’t?” they would reflexively screech. Courts make determinations of fact all the time, it is part of their job. If not for the financial, and therefore political power of “Big Woo” and its allied Evangelical religious grift, these sociopaths would have been shut down long ago.

See the Garrison cartoon above he should be indicted for. Basically the Same kind of propaganda as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:07:14am

Oh no. Birx is on Press the Meat.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:08:26am

re: #196 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Since a very large percentage of Trump’s base are in the vulnerable population, one wonders if watching their friends and loved ones sicken and die will penetrate the cocoon of denial.

No.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:08:53am

re: #208 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wonder what kind of zombie apocalypse is going on in Russia just now? Anyone have a good source?

Dawn Of The Dead (2004) - Intro

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:10:23am

re: #210 NO SMOCKING GUN!

See the Garrison cartoon above he should be indicted for. Basically the Same kind of propaganda as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Look at the cartoon again. That is Bill Gates, not Soros. Not that it makes it acceptable because Garrison is still a racist Scheißhaufen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:11:36am

re: #204 The Pie Overlord!

Germans are the best at swears

[Embedded content]

Translation:
SPIEGEL: Herr Kinski, two weeks ago the world seemed completely normal …

KINSKI: What are you talking about, you utter moron? You come in here full of shit and ask me this fucking question?! You are crazy, a complete lunatic. Kiss my ass, dude!

SPIEGEL: Herr Münchinger, two weeks ago the world seemed completely normal …

MÜNCHINGER: The world was completely fucked up! As backward as cave people! That’s how it was!

Maybe Wendell has a better translation.

that about sums it up…

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:13:16am

Neat fact: The original ending scripted and actually filmed for World War Z involved Pitt’s character crash-landing in Russia, where he ended up fighting a barricade situation against the zombie hordes. As it’s during a Russian winter, the temp drops to biting cold quickly, leading him and the defenders to realize (as in the original novel) that the zombies become lethargic and can even freeze in deep cold. This (rather than the BS “they sense illness”) is what turns out to be the turning point in the war against the undead.

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austin_blue  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:17:25am

re: #135 Belafon

Any map showing where the virus has been detected shows I35 from San Antonio to Dallas, with dots being stops all along the route.

Of course it does. Laredo to Denton and all spots in between. Golden Triangle on IH-Ten to El Paso, IH-20/30 from Texarkana to Midland, the same.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:21:07am

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

Look at the cartoon again. That is Bill Gates, not Soros. Not that it makes it acceptable because Garrison is still a racist Scheißhaufen.

Garrison has drawn Soros several times and not once was the Soros caricature wearing glasses.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:22:11am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It will not be whipped until we develop a a vaccine (which should be made mandatory) or a cure/treatment (which should be denied to all those who nonetheless refuse treatment on anything but certified medial grounds)

This
1000 times this

Containment / bending the curve is step 1 to avoid a worse catastrophe
So you got tested and it’s negative? Great.
You’re not done.
It’s not over. You’ve only just begun. You’re still vulnerable. Duh.
You have to keep doing everything ..distancing, disinfecting, masks, gloves, food prep, avoiding crowds, travel….

Until there’s a workable available vaccine

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Kilroy was here  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:23:55am

re: #219 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

This
1000 times this

Containment / bending the curve is step 1 to avoid a worse catastrophe
So you got tested and it’s negative? Great.
You’re not done.
It’s not over. You’ve only just begun. You’re still vulnerable. Duh.
You have to keep doing everything ..distancing, disinfecting, masks, gloves, food prep, avoiding crowds, travel….

Until there’s a workable available vaccine

If there is a workable vaccine..

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:27:15am

EDIT: Put these diseased images in quarantine behind spoiler tags so they don’t spread via Google image search.

This is Garrison’s antisemitic Soros cartoon:

Here’s another one of Bill Gates:

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:28:14am

re: #196 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Since a very large percentage of Trump’s base are in the vulnerable population, one wonders if watching their friends and loved ones sicken and die will penetrate the cocoon of denial.

re: #212 Colère Tueur de Lapin

No.

Let’s look at gun fanatics. Whenever a 3 year old shoots their mother or their brother, they attribute it to G-d’s will. They never rethink their devotion to their arsenal. And these are the same people.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:29:28am

re: #220 Kilroy was here

If there is a workable vaccine..

Indeed
Though of that I am cautiously optimistic

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:30:09am
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:33:32am

I just came across a tweet from Todd Starnes where he showed video from outside a Brooklyn hospital and asked “where’s the war zone” because no one was on the streets outside. Starnes is an ass generally, so I about expected it. What I didn’t expect is the Jade Helm-type insanity in his comments. “Somethings going on”; “We drove by our hospital and it’s the same thing—nothing—the virus story is a cover!” etc, etc. (Not linking to Todd.)

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wrenchwench  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:35:19am

I have a niece who is almost a doctor. She’s in Berlin; born, raised, schooled and was in an oncology internship until recent shift of mission.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:39:08am

Well, howdy there internet people…

Let’s talk about the prepping community and a heart to heart….

This isn’t a thing that applies to most of us, but if any of you do know any of those knucklehead preppers, pass this on to them.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:40:03am

re: #211 Ace Rothstein

Oh no. Birx is on Press the Meat.

White House Coronavirus Official: ‘No Metro Area Will Be Spared’ From Outbreak
“Every metro area should assume that they will have an outbreak equivalent to New York,” said Dr. Deborah Birx

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unproven innocence  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:40:48am

re: #203 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Is that possible? That 97% will not have been affected at all (got it, survived it or died, or was asymptomatic, and assumingly now has immunity)? Is that possible??

No. Please re-read the excerpted part carefully. The modelling assumes, based on confirmed cases (swear words here), and success at halting (or greatly slowing/blunting, and even reversing) the current outbreak (dubious, IMHO), so that it does not exceed 3% (of the various populations, and the US as a whole) over the next several weeks.

Personally, I think we are *way* past 3% already, that one wave is a near certainty, and so the published # deaths in the near future is therefore too low by a factor of 30 or so. The biggest uncertainty remaining is how effectively we can still SLOW IT DOWN to avoid lots of deaths overall by not utterly overwhelming (and breaking) our heathcare systems and other essential services.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:40:57am

re: #189 Flying Squirrel Girl

Update: his boss just came to the house to apologize in person. Husband didn’t let him in the house, met him on the driveway.

He said there was a scramble to figure out what to do and the right hand didn’t know what the left was doing (in my opinion, that’s because they didn’t take it seriously or had a “surely it won’t happen here” mindset). He said a strict protocol will be put in place this week as a result of the fallout. Husband feels better, doesn’t feel like he was left out of the loop maliciously. Not sure how I feel yet.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:41:36am

re: #215 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that about sums it up…

Having taken German in my days in the Swedish equivalent of (Junior) High, yep, it sums it up nicely.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:43:13am

re: #225 Barefoot Grin

I just came across a tweet from Todd Starnes where he showed video from outside a Brooklyn hospital and asked “where’s the war zone” because no one was on the streets outside. Starnes is an ass generally, so I about expected it. What I didn’t expect is the Jade Helm-type insanity in his comments. “Somethings going on”; “We drove by our hospital and it’s the same thing—nothing—the virus story is a cover!” etc, etc. (Not linking to Todd.)

No bombs hit our town so theres no war

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:44:38am

re: #178 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Another week survived.

Going for that last bit
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:49:13am

re: #230 Flying Squirrel Girl

Update: his boss just came to the house to apologize in person. Husband didn’t let him in the house, met him on the driveway.

He said there was a scramble to figure out what to do and the right hand didn’t know what the left was doing (in my opinion, that’s because they didn’t take it seriously or had a “surely it won’t happen here” mindset). He said a strict protocol will be put in place this week as a result of the fallout. Husband feels better, doesn’t feel like he was left out of the loop maliciously. Not sure how I feel yet.

You should feel outraged at the incompetence in a life threatening situation.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:50:10am

Greets and saluts from the stormy NYC metro area. We have a t-storm moving through at the moment, and once it passes, the weather should clear up a bit.

That’s the good news.

The bad?

Fauci is warning that we’re going to see 100,000-200,000 killed from covid19 this year.

And it’s going to happen in a compressed time period.

So of course fucknuts like Candace Owens thinks that this is no big deal and that the flu kills more.

Heck, there are fucking bots who are claiming that there’s a covid19 vaccine (there isn’t).

Trump’s continuing failures have a lasting effect on the economy and health systems nationwide. We would not be in this position had Trump taken this seriously in January and February.

And again, the bots and magadiots are claiming that impeachment was a distraction. Except that a president has to deal with multiple crises and events every fucking day and if you can’t multitask, you have no business being anywhere near elected office, especially one like the presidency. It’s an admission that he’s absolutely overwhelmed by this while excusing his incompetence and blaming others for his irresponsible acts.

We are continuing to learn that the admin knew and did nothing.

We are continuing to be reminded that there was a stockpile of PPE and that Trump even sent a bunch of gear to China to help with their crisis (which coincidentally was the right thing to do), but then did nothing to restock our own supplies, or prepare for this crisis.

The body count continues growing on a daily basis, and it wont be long before we see a death toll exceeding 9/11. That’s on Trump because he could have minimized this crisis with the aggressive actions to test and quarantine and contact trace.

Fuck Trump and fuck the enabling and complicit GOPers who continue to not only protect Trump, but are pushing Trump’s irresponsible take at the state and local level.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:51:05am

re: #232 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

No bombs hit our town so theres no war

I remember watching a WWII documentary the other day and hearing a German soldier who’d been on the front lines getting sent home due to injury. And what amazed him was to walk the streets and see absolutely nothing resembling a country in the midst of war. No rationing, no people in drab clothing, no signs calling on people to do without for the war effort, nothing that would indicate that people back home were being asked to sacrifice anything. Even during the bombing campaigns, they would still have cities lit up at night because Hitler did not want the people to think that the war was in any way a danger to them.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:53:17am

re: #189 Flying Squirrel Girl

Contact your doctor and inform them. Talk to them and indicate that you’ll do the self quarantine for 14 days to be sure, and then provide contact tracing info as best as you can.

Your doctor may put you in touch with the local public health department, who might ask for that info too.

Any info you provide could save lives downstream too.

Stay safe. Keep calm. And vote Trump and the GOP the fuck out of office.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:54:22am
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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:54:45am

re: #228 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

White House Coronavirus Official: ‘No Metro Area Will Be Spared’ From Outbreak
“Every metro area should assume that they will have an outbreak equivalent to New York,” said Dr. Deborah Birx

In other words, Trump failed, and now they’re doing damage control to indicate that the body count is inevitable.

IT IS NOT INEVITABLE.

Aggressive testing - even at this stage can help. Aggressive self-isolation steps can help.

But Trump has no interest in doing any of that.

The body count is on Trump. All of it.

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lizardofid  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:55:53am

re: #236 Targetpractice

I remember watching a WWII documentary the other day and hearing a German soldier who’d been on the front lines getting sent home due to injury. And what amazed him was to walk the streets and see absolutely nothing resembling a country in the midst of war. No rationing, no people in drab clothing, no signs calling on people to do without for the war effort, nothing that would indicate that people back home were being asked to sacrifice anything. Even during the bombing campaigns, they would still have cities lit up at night because Hitler did not want the people to think that the war was in any way a danger to them.

Sounds all too familiar.

Oh, good morning!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:56:32am

re: #239 lawhawk

I agree. The COVID-19 virus spread is his fault. We need to do aggressive testing.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:58:37am

re: #235 lawhawk

You know, to buy the “impeachment was a distraction” bit, you have to believe that without being impeached Trump would have treated the outbreak as serious sooner and done more to try to keep it out of the US. Except that would fly right in the face of the idea that he did everything “right” and yet the virus still somehow got in the US despite his best efforts. So how are we supposed to accept that he was totally blindsided by this virus and also so prescient that he took all the right moves?

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William Lewis  Mar 29, 2020 • 7:58:45am

re: #232 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

No bombs hit our town so theres no war

People have a tendency to adapt quite quickly. Even if it’s really a war zone…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:00:31am

Spain’s latest daily death addition of 546 is the lowest in six days. And their new cases of 6528 is also the lowest in six days. Hopefully this is an indication that their own lockdown is working.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:01:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:02:17am
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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:03:37am

re: #242 Targetpractice

You know, to buy the “impeachment was a distraction” bit, you have to believe that without being impeached Trump would have treated the outbreak as serious sooner and done more to try to keep it out of the US. Except that would fly right in the face of the idea that he did everything “right” and yet the virus still somehow got in the US despite his best efforts. So how are we supposed to accept that he was totally blindsided by this virus and also so prescient that he took all the right moves?

And impeachment was over by February 6. He had briefings before and after that date. From February 6 onwards he had precisely zero excuses.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:05:08am
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William Lewis  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:06:02am

Ok, went somewhere else to check threads and saw the perfect response to all of this. Are you optimistic or what? :D

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:08:03am

re: #249 William Lewis

Need more beer. /yeah, I’m a realist.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:11:22am

re: #248 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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So HHS asked for $2B to restock supplies, the WH cut that to $500M, and now those bastards want brownie points because Congress gave them $16B weeks later?!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:12:56am

re: #251 Targetpractice

Yes. Exactly the point. And please forget about the cut that was made. /

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NetworkKed  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:13:23am

re: #229 unproven innocence

No. Please re-read the excerpted part carefully. The modelling assumes, based on confirmed cases (swear words here), and success at halting (or greatly slowing/blunting, and even reversing) the current outbreak (dubious, IMHO), so that it does not exceed 3% (of the various populations, and the US as a whole) over the next several weeks.

Personally, I think we are *way* past 3% already, that one wave is a near certainty, and so the published # deaths in the near future is therefore too low by a factor of 30 or so. The biggest uncertainty remaining is how effectively we can still SLOW IT DOWN to avoid lots of deaths overall by not utterly overwhelming (and breaking) our heathcare systems and other essential services.

We’re nowhere near 3%. Yes, the testing numbers are certainly low by a factor of 2 to 10, but that maybe gets it to .5%. If it truly is at 3%, then either we’re totally missing 300,000+ dead bodies or it really is less deadly than recent flu.

My personal worst-case projections are based on:
1. 60% of the population catching it. This is unlikely for reasons to be discussed below, but if C19 is left TOTALLY unchecked, it ought to be able to do at least that much.
2. Hospitals being overwhelmed as most of those come through in one month’s time. With hospital facilities available, fatality rate is somewhere between .5% and 2%. But depending on the source, about 10%-18% need hospitalization. So if hospitals don’t have facilities - which is more than JUST beds, but ventilators and healthcare professionals and support staff - then most of that number dies.
3. And with hospitals overwhelmed, other emergency medical care doesn’t exist, so you lose maybe another .1% to 1%.

Which (raw ballpark) numbers something like 30-40 million dead in the US.

That’s worst-case, and it’s not realistic. Reality is not simple percentages, and the truth is if millions of people are dying, then everyone with even vaguely functional brains will isolate themselves. So yeah - the first wave will, even if government utterly fails, end in some kind of containment much lower than the everyone-gets-it number. You can argue what the shape of the curve will be - I think we could see some flattening in about another week if what is being done is sufficient, but I fear that too many places are half-assing isolation efforts and we’ll end up with 5-6 day doubling on a national level at the end of April.

I could make guesses about the eventual course of things, but the problem is the fucking morons in the white house are complete fucking morons and whatever I imagine, they’re going to completely fuck up.

Some quick numbers - if we keep the current death doubling rate, we’re less than a month away from 1 million deaths. But the infection doubling rate has slowed just a bit, so it’s probably not going to go quite that fast. And maybe the states will get their asses in gear.

And maybe the horse will sing.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:13:58am

re: #247 lawhawk

And impeachment was over by February 6. He had briefings before and after that date. From February 6 onwards he had precisely zero excuses.

Any wingnuts who brings up impeachment as a “distraction” needs to be asked what would Trump have done differently if he were not impeached. Because any answer other than “exactly the same” is an admission on their part that they feel he in some way mishandled the outbreak.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:16:53am

Well back from the store. Was able to get everything on the list except (strangely enough) my marinades as well as a few “comfort items” as well. That’s the good news. The not so good news. [ranton]The doors opened at 0700. We got there about 5 till. When we pulled into the lot the first words out of our mouths were (more or less) FUCKING IDIOTS! There were about 30 to 40 people lined up to go in. They were all BUNCHED UP. No 6 foot separation at all. Needless to say, we waited unto the doors opened and these idiots entered the store. As an added bonus, we were some of the few people wearing both masks and gloves. Several others had on only gloves (better than nothing I guess). Everybody else, nada. Stopping in the isles to yack with friends as if there was nothing to be concerned about. How we only have two confirmed cases in this city/county is beyond me.[/ranton] Thankfully we will not have to go out again for at least two weeks.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:17:58am

Expect millions more new unemployment claims reported Thursday, and record shattering job losses for March reported on Friday. The long string of consecutive monthly job gains going back a decade is going to end with a bang. vox.com

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:18:05am

re: #254 Targetpractice

Any wingnuts who brings up impeachment as a “distraction” needs to be asked what would Trump have done differently if he were not impeached. Because any answer other than “exactly the same” is an admission on their part that they feel he in some way mishandled the outbreak.

Doesn’t explain 2016 or 2017 or 2018 or 2019

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retired cynic  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:19:24am

We need smart solutions to mitigate the coronavirus’s impact. Here are 12. WaPo

Lift restrictions on blood donations from gay men
Let foreign-trained physicians join the fight
Emergency responders can help besieged hospitals. Here’s how.
It’s time for emergency physicians to put away our stethoscopes, etc., in detail.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:19:25am

re: #255 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I understand. Most of the customers at my local Acme were wearing gloves. There were a couple of masks and one even on a clerk. And thankfully there were no crowds.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:19:27am

It’s Sunday
We’re gonna build a waterfall today

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:19:56am

re: #255 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Well back from the store. Was able to get everything on the list except (strangely enough) my marinades as well as a few “comfort items” as well. That’s the good news. The not so good news. [ranton]The doors opened at 0700. We got there about 5 till. When we pulled into the lot the first words out of our mouths were (more or less) FUCKING IDIOTS! There were about 30 to 40 people lined up to go in. They were all BUNCHED UP. No 6 foot separation at all. Needless to say, we waited unto the doors opened and these idiots entered the store. As an added bonus, we were some of the few people wearing both masks and gloves. Several others had on only gloves (better than nothing I guess). Everybody else, nada. Stopping in the isles to yack with friends as if there was nothing to be concerned about. How we only have two confirmed cases in this city/county is beyond me.[/ranton] Thankfully we will not have to go out again for at least two weeks.

The answer is lack of testing. Believe me, there are a lot more than two.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:20:31am

re: #253 NetworkKed

The worst case scenarios also take into account that health professionals are among the hardest hit. We’re already seeing that undermine readiness at hospitals and medical facilities throughout the NYC metro area. First responders, NYPD, FDNY, and EMS are all taking significant hits to their readiness because of covid19 cases in their ranks.

Doctors and staff are also MIA thanks to need for quarantining and testing positive, and as more test positive, the load for the remaining staff is even greater as the flow of cases increases.

It’s going to be a perfect storm of awfulness thanks to Trump’s absolute failures to do anything to mitigate this in Jan-Mar 2020 when the public health experts were warning him to do just that. He ignored all of them and lied about how this would all go away.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:20:33am

re: #230 Flying Squirrel Girl

Update: his boss just came to the house to apologize in person. Husband didn’t let him in the house, met him on the driveway.

He said there was a scramble to figure out what to do and the right hand didn’t know what the left was doing (in my opinion, that’s because they didn’t take it seriously or had a “surely it won’t happen here” mindset). He said a strict protocol will be put in place this week as a result of the fallout. Husband feels better, doesn’t feel like he was left out of the loop maliciously. Not sure how I feel yet.

so between actively malicious cover-ups and what might just be massive fuck-ups like this (on the part of people who just lack awareness of the severity of the situation) things can only get worse…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:22:00am

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NetworkKed  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:22:39am

re: #264 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“ABSOLUTE”?

I might get behind Absolut - I used to laugh about premium-ish vodkas but in the last couple of years my taster has started to appreciate them.

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steve_davis  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:22:55am

re: #58 teleskiguy

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She just checked in to see what condition her condition was in.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:25:03am

re: #264 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Why do I want to go to Oklahoma?

en.wikipedia.org

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steve_davis  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:25:50am

re: #74 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

People are still taking cruises.

People are fucking stupid.

Wife: “Everyone is dying on cruise ships!”
Husband: “….but we booked these tickets six months ago!”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:27:02am

re: #266 steve_davis

She just checked in to see what condition her condition was in.

I drank a bottle of wine last night. But I didn’t try to go on national tv afterward.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:27:15am

re: #265 NetworkKed

“ABSOLUTE”?

I might get behind Absolut - I used to laugh about premium-ish vodkas but in the last couple of years my taster has started to appreciate them.

Moskovskaya

been my brand since 1992

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:28:05am

re: #265 NetworkKed

What’s weird is that Tito’s used to be a discount vodka until it was rebranded as premium.

Vodka is supposed to have a neutral flavor, so brand isn’t nearly as important as with flavored spirits. And mythbusters or another program showed how you could use a water filter to make any vodka taste better with additional filtering before drinking.

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NetworkKed  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:30:26am

re: #271 lawhawk

What’s weird is that Tito’s used to be a discount vodka until it was rebranded as premium.

I totally believe that - it’s very flavored for an “unflavored” vodka and I can’t stand it. I think you could make like a cupcake-flavored vodka out of it and it would at least meet expectations.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:32:16am

re: #268 steve_davis

Wife: “Everyone is dying on cruise ships!”
Husband: “….but we booked these tickets six months ago!”

Cruises are really cheap right now!

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NetworkKed  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:33:35am

re: #273 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Cruises are really cheap right now!

I’m actually looking forward to doing a cruise… in about a year.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:34:16am

re: #271 lawhawk

Titios won a couple blind taste tests against far more expensive brands. We like it here on the rare-ish occasions we drink distilled spirits.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:34:38am

re: #272 NetworkKed

I am a Costco fan, and their spirits are pretty good. Their vodka is a good value (and I’ll use that to make vanilla extract/infusion for the mrs. baking needs) , and their gin (which I drink neat or mixed with ginger beer or tonic or whatever else is on hand) is in the Bombay style. The Mrs. does like her bourbons, so that’s her jam. I don’t mind scotch, and prefer the Johnny double black.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:39:15am

re: #275 Rightwingconspirator

Tito’s excels at marketing, and protecting its secrets, especially when it comes to how it’s made.

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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:40:28am

re: #170 Anymouse 🌹🏡

It is also permitted to those retired from the maritime services (though your estate has to pay to ship your remains to Norfolk or San Diego).

When I was in the Navy, a short time after we pulled out to sea from Norfolk there would be funeral services aboard ship, as noted in the Wikipedia article above.

They also made an exception to allow Dennis Wilson to be buried at sea.

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lizardofid  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:40:43am

Interesting story on CBS Sunday Morning.

Dr. Jon LaPook on the value of antibody tests.

Link

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:41:09am

re: #274 NetworkKed

I’m actually looking forward to doing a cruise… in about a year.

I was curious, so I checked. Disney Cruises are only suspended through April 12, and you can book cruises now for passage May 8, if you have a death wish.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:42:13am

Okay gonna get out for a drive. No plan to stop anywhere just drive where it’s green and uncrowded, then cruise home. Maybe take a packed lunch to eat by myself out there. Get a little sun, watch a mild storm come in from the coast.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:43:59am

re: #280 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I was curious, so I checked. Disney Cruises are only suspended through April 12, and you can book cruises now for passage May 8, if you have a death wish.

I had over 40 ship cruise tours on the Rhine booked for this season. All cancelled through to the end of April and I cannot imagine that more than a handful will come through if at all, perhaps late in the season (September/October)

But most of these passengers are retired people, I would not want to risk being stuck on a plague boat.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:44:06am

Canned Ass is stupid, oblivious, clueness and obnoxious.

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NetworkKed  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:44:58am

re: #280 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I was curious, so I checked. Disney Cruises are only suspended through April 12, and you can book cruises now for passage May 8, if you have a death wish.

No, no, no interest in being stranded at sea. Once Trump is out and C19 is trailing off the policy on docking won’t be as braindead.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:46:27am

re: #277 lawhawk

Thanks for the link. Very interesting

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William Lewis  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:49:10am

re: #273 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Cruises are really cheap right now!

There are some cruises I’d like to take. These folks for ex:

sailmainecoast.com

But the big chum tanks? Nope.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:50:15am

re: #276 lawhawk
Re Kirkland Vodka:

I am not an alcohol person except loss leader 100% agave tequila and Mex beers

Wife likes G&Ts with Bombay Sapphire On the advice of a Santa -Rudolph hybrid looking dude at the Oxnard Costco, I bought Kirkland substitute —and caught hell on her first sip of the blind taste test.

Usually Kirkland products go well here. That one did not and still have 9/10 a bottle

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:50:26am

re: #225 Barefoot Grin

I just came across a tweet from Todd Starnes where he showed video from outside a Brooklyn hospital and asked “where’s the war zone” because no one was on the streets outside.

So, like it’s normal to have nobody in the streets in Brooklyn?

This fucker would be wandering around London in 28 days later saying “see, nobody here, it’s cool”.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:50:37am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

Because the system was designed to handle that level of cases (and millions of cases are preventable or minimized with mandatory vaccinations, but that’s a gripe for another time), and covid19 is adding to that and because it’s a novel disease - NO ONE has immunity and the kinds of cases requiring hospitalization are more severe and are taking longer to resolve.

You know, I’d trust the health experts over propagandists like her.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:52:31am

re: #289 lawhawk

Because the system was designed to handle that level of cases (and millions of cases are preventable or minimized with mandatory vaccinations, but that’s a gripe for another time), and covid19 is adding to that and because it’s a novel disease - NO ONE has immunity and the kinds of cases requiring hospitalization are more severe and are taking longer to resolve.

You know, I’d trust the health experts over propagandists like her.

18-26 MILLION office visits? That would include, ya know, PEOPLE RECEIVING VACCINES.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:52:31am

re: #289 lawhawk

You know, I’d trust the health experts over propagandists like her.

Because you have been brainwashed by Liberal Media to trust the Deep State over Common Sense.

/

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:52:57am

re: #287 So Cal Greek Hippie

I can see that - some folks like a style, and have a palate accustomed to a version, anything that diverges even slightly will have issues.

I’ve gotten some small batch gins from local distilleries on my travels, and they are aromatic and herbaceous in ways the big brands never would be. Unique drinks that you could just sip neat or with a bit of ice.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:56:35am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

Canned Ass is stupid, oblivious, clueness and obnoxious.

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Well, for one thing, we’ve had fast and simple tests for influenza for ages, meaning people can be tested and released in an afternoon. There’s no hours or days of waiting on test results that might be unreliable due to manufacturing defects.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:57:38am

re: #290 The Pie Overlord!

We also have medications that now reduce the severity and longevity of seasonal flu.

None of those exist for covid19. There’s no vaccine.

A completely new disease for which we have no effective treatment or cure and no vaccine.

But sure, this is just like the flu. /fuck these people.

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retired cynic  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:57:46am

re: #178 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Oh, a towhee! Congratulations!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:57:55am

I don’t mind a Zubrovka (or Grasovka) flavored with buffalo grass, and used to be terribly fond og Pertsovka (chili pepper-flavored)

And I was a fan of black (and white) Russians long before The Big Lebowski

And I have owned an oriental rug that has graced my living room since 1978

And my best buddy wore Hawaiian shirts and answered to the appellation “Dude”

And I had another good buddy who was a Vietnam-era veteran (although he never served overseas because he was expelled from the army for putting LSD in the officers’ coffee and setting the barracks on fire. While in the brig he claimed that he had defected to the North Koreans and demanded to be treated as a POW)

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:58:27am

re: #292 lawhawk

Wife has a refined palate, and there is no accounting for taste, and let’s not forget the power of marketing

We were in Sonoma a few years ago at an expensive looking winery:

Lady from Dayton, OH How is Chardonnay?
Wine Dude: Nectar of the gods, best in years
Lady orders case and leaves

Wife: How is Chardonnay? Gets a sample and declares loudly “this is really immature and funky”
Wine Dude: Yeah we had to harvest super early and it shows…

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lizardofid  Mar 29, 2020 • 8:59:16am

re: #292 lawhawk

I can see that - some folks like a style, and have a palate accustomed to a version, anything that diverges even slightly will have issues.

I’ve gotten some small batch gins from local distilleries on my travels, and they are aromatic and herbaceous in ways the big brands never would be. Unique drinks that you could just sip neat or with a bit of ice.

I must admit, i’m curious what a “pre-Prohibition martini using Vermouth from 1906, and gin from the turn of the century” would be like.

Link

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:00:21am

re: #254 Targetpractice

Any wingnuts who brings up impeachment as a “distraction” needs to be asked what would Trump have done differently if he were not impeached. Because any answer other than “exactly the same” is an admission on their part that they feel he in some way mishandled the outbreak.

The CV pandemic is a distraction from my only purpose for the next 8 months: ridding DC of the Republican scum who are infesting it. We haven’t learned how to do that in a lock-down environment, but we will.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:00:23am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:01:34am

re: #267 Kilroy was here

Why do I want to go to Oklahoma?

en.wikipedia.org

Hah, just been re-reading Back in the USSA, the chapter Tom Joad is set in Nowhere. (Federal Bureau of Ideology agents Ness and Purvis are set to Nowhere to track down Joad, later backed up by party enforcer Frank Nitti).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:01:54am

Reminder: It has still been less than a month since large scale closures and shutdowns began in this country.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:04:20am

re: #302 Eclectic Cyborg

Reminder: It has still been less than a months since large scale closures and shutdowns began in this country.

Correct, comparing 6 months of influenza cases to 0-1 months of confirmed COVID-19 cases is asinine. I’m sure if you checked the numbers in October, the flu “season” looked tame by comparison to past outbreaks.

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:04:52am

re: #279 lizardofid

Interesting story on CBS Sunday Morning.

Dr. Jon LaPook on the value of antibody tests.

Link

All good. ‘Till he starts talking about “cutting red tape”. At which point, fuck him.

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lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:05:46am

re: #297 So Cal Greek Hippie

Wife has a refined palate, and there is no accounting for taste, and let’s not forget the power of marketing

We were in Sonoma a few years ago at an expensive looking winery:

Lady from Dayton, OH How is Chardonnay?
Wine Dude: Nectar of the gods, best in years
Lady orders case and leaves

Wife: How is Chardonnay? Gets a sample and declares loudly “this is really immature and funky”
Wine Dude: Yeah we had to harvest super early and it shows…

We go to the Finger Lakes pretty regularly and hit the same wineries time and again. Each vintage is different, sometimes good, some times not so much. The Mrs. and I have what we consider a refined palate, but will buy only what both agree is good.

We also look for offbeat types and varietals that have unique characteristics.

I remember going to Napa on our honeymoon and stopped into a bunch of wineries. Stags Leap Wine Cellars was one of the stops, and they were quite gracious. At the time they had free tastings, so being newlyweds we got treated - including a taste of their premium vintage. We liked their cabs quite a bit, but then had a try of their premium, and while it was a bit smoother, I don’t know if it was truly worth the premium cost.

I like value wines - ones that are very good compared to their price. And that’s all relative.

For beer, I like my IPAs, but the mrs. can’t really stand them. She’s a porter, bock, stout and darker. I like those too, so it’s a good mix of beer in the house. We drink what we like, and if we have company over, that’s what they drink too.

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sagehen  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:06:14am

re: #283 The Pie Overlord!

Canned Ass is stupid, oblivious, clueness and obnoxious.

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People who need hospitalization and ventilators for the flu… need it for a few days. People who need it for Covid, it’s about 3 weeks.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:07:03am

re: #253 NetworkKed

We’re nowhere near 3%. Yes, the testing numbers are certainly low by a factor of 2 to 10, but that maybe gets it to .5%. If it truly is at 3%, then either we’re totally missing 300,000+ dead bodies or it really is less deadly than recent flu….
….
3. And with hospitals overwhelmed, other emergency medical care doesn’t exist, so you lose maybe another .1% to 1%.

Which (raw ballpark) numbers something like 30-40 million dead in the US.
….

Just a couple comments: If it were 3%, then we would expect 9,000,000 cases — and at a 1% mortality rate, it would be 90,000 deaths — not 300,000 missing deaths.

I think the total extra deaths due directly or indirectly if we don’t take more action could be 3-6 million, not 30 to 40 million.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:07:23am
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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:08:21am

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Now I’m going to enjoy the company of my wife and daughter and have a drink every time I stress over my wife going into work tomorrow.
I might be blind by 3:45 DST

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:09:07am

I have a flat tire on my truck. Now what?

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:10:02am

re: #310 makeitstop

I have a flat tire on my truck. Now what?

Repair places are open.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:10:02am

It’s the speed, ease, and availability of influenza testing that makes those statistics possible. We’re likely going to be debating the “real” number of COVID-19 cases for years, simply because it took weeks to get testing started, longer to get it to more than a handful of people a day, and we still haven’t reached a period where everybody who should best tested is being tested. And any estimate is likely to miss a whole of “mild” cases or asymptomatic carriers who gave it to everyone around them without ever knowing they were carrying COVID-19.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:10:26am

re: #310 makeitstop

I have a flat tire on my truck. Now what?

You don’t have a spare?

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:11:02am

Have not heard from Khal Wimpo since Friday. Hopefully soon. Covid can move fast.

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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:11:25am

re: #310 makeitstop

I have a flat tire on my truck. Now what?

If you have AAA they will send someone to you.
Or pull it and ride it to service.

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:11:40am

re: #305 lawhawk

I remember going to Napa on our honeymoon and stopped into a bunch of wineries. Stags Leap Wine Cellars was one of the stops, and they were quite gracious. At the time they had free tastings, so being newlyweds we got treated - including a taste of their premium vintage. We liked their cabs quite a bit, but then had a try of their premium, and while it was a bit smoother, I don’t know if it was truly worth the premium cost.

I lived an hour from Napa and me and the Wife Unit had some of our early Important Moments there. Lots of good wine there but you have to search for the values. The diff between the great wines for $$$ and value wines wasn’t that much on flavor. So much ridic pretentousness in wine.

Went to Hunter Valley AUS on our last ‘wine tasing’ trip. Every winery’s best stuff was probably $65 and could go up against any $150 Napa. Aussies keep it funky and use screw caps.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:11:52am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:13:19am
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:13:27am

IT WILL COME ROARING BACK!! (and by “IT” means the coronavirus, not MUH ECONOMY)

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:13:27am

re: #311 Belafon

Repair places are open.

I’m going to call around and see about getting a new set of tires this week. A few years of parkway driving wears tires out in weird ways, and I’m due.

re: #313 Eclectic Cyborg

You don’t have a spare?

There’s one on the underside of the truck, but I’ve never taken it out to look at it, so it may be flat, too.

I do have a compressor, so I can pump up the flat and drive to wherever I’ll get the new tires. Might as well get 5 and have the spare replaced too, I guess.

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NetworkKed  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:13:48am

re: #307 Hecuba’s daughter

Just a couple comments: If it were 3%, then we would expect 9,000,000 cases — and at a 1% mortality rate, it would be 90,000 deaths — not 300,000 missing deaths.

I think the total extra deaths due directly or indirectly if we don’t take more action could be 3-6 million, not 30 to 40 million.

…yeah, I think I rearranged some digits wrong on that first calculation. I hadn’t had my coffee yet.

Again, the 30-40 million is total zombie apocalypse meltdown territory. As I discussed, it’s not a realistic figure, merely an absolute worst case. Mostly I’m throwing that out there because some of the supposedly academic projections I’ve seen this week are pure propaganda bullshit in the other direction. If I had to bet, I’d put my marker on .5M to 1.5M, with the precise number controlled by how competently the states act.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:13:59am

re: #309 Mescalero09

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Now I’m going to enjoy the company of my wife and daughter and have a drink every time I stress over my wife going into work tomorrow.
I might be blind by 3:45 DST

That attitude is only the immediate expression of the thinking that gets morons to turn on all their lights on Earth Day or to roll coal. In the end the disease will kill a lot of intelligent, caring, people. It will kill a somewhat larger ratio of stupid assholes.

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:14:11am

re: #314 Renaissance_Man

Have not heard from Khal Wimpo since Friday. Hopefully soon. Covid can move fast.

Oh no, does Khal have the rona?

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:17:25am

re: #319 The Pie Overlord!

IT WILL COME ROARING BACK!! (and by “IT” means the coronavirus, not MUH ECONOMY)

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Words from Larry “This Virus is Contained” Kudlow, folks. The guy who keeps predicting an economic boom and then has all sorts of excuses when they never happen.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:17:43am

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:18:09am

Once a Knick, always a Knick - Stephon Marbury steps up for NYC.

Former New York Knicks star Stephon Marbury is working to try and get 10 million N95 masks delivered to New York City from China, according to The New York Post.

Marbury is working to try and get the masks at a cost of $2.75 each, which would be below the $7.50 price tag that they are usually sold for. Marbury has been in touch with Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams.

“At the end of the day, I am from Brooklyn,” Marbury told The Post. “This is something that is close and dear to my heart as far as being able to help New York…I have family there in Coney Island, a lot of family … who are affected by this, so I know how important it is for people to have masks during this time.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:18:16am

re: #319 The Pie Overlord!

“With the Tax Cuts and new Trade Deals, we were set for a tremendous growth rate this year…. and then the Virus came along.”

We were breaking all records, especially on employment. It will all come roaring back again, and fast!

Again, he is fixated on a strong economy as being the only thing that can guarantee him re-election because his pea-brain cannot get a hold the idea of the value of strong leadership during a crisis.

The economy is going to take a hit. Just sending people back to work will not re-boot the economy: people will still be staying away in droves from crowded areas, events, resorts and theme parks, movie theaters, sporting events, etc…

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:19:40am

re: #325 Dr Lizardo

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:22:09am

re: #289 lawhawk

but that’s a gripe for another time

quell joli jeux des mots ma chere.

(En Français “la grippe” veut dire “the flu”).

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:22:37am

re: #328 PhillyPretzel

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:22:41am

re: #327 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, he is fixated on a strong economy as being the only thing that can guarantee him re-election because his pea-brain cannot get a hold the idea of the value of strong leadership during a crisis.

The economy is going to take a hit. Just sending people back to work will not re-boot the economy: people will still be staying away in droves from crowded areas, events, resorts and theme parks, movie theaters, sporting events, etc…

Just sending people back to work will not put people back to work. A sizeable chunk of the workforce will not be returning to the shop and firing up the boiler. Millions of rerplacement workers will have to be recruited, vetted, trained and acculturated. That’s weeks and months.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:23:33am

The reality: Trump campaigned on sustained 3% growth and promised it could go as high as 5-6% if Congress worked with him. And while he’s managed a few adjusted quarters of 3% or higher, he’s never managed to sustain such over even a six month period during any time in his presidency. And this despite constant promises that this deregulation, that trade deal, or the $2 trillion that was pissed away in tax cuts was going to lead to a “boom” that would finally see sustained growth as he campaigned on.

In fact, that tweet is just more of the same: Excuse-making for failed promises while making further promises he knows will never come true.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:25:42am

A former student of mine who now works in Prague real estate messaged me this afternoon and she noted that there’s now over 1,000 brand-new rentals available in Prague 1 (city center, basically). They were formerly AirBnB units.

She said, “My god, AirBnB has collapsed almost overnight.”

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:26:10am

I’m going to buy this guy’s book. Thread:

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:26:41am

re: #305 lawhawk

We go to the Finger Lakes pretty regularly and hit the same wineries time and again. Each vintage is different, sometimes good, some times not so much. The Mrs. and I have what we consider a refined palate, but will buy only what both agree is good.

We also look for offbeat types and varietals that have unique characteristics.

[snip]

We do local (at least pretty close) most often when it comes to wine. Last 3 bottles of wine we had this past week were Shippenville Red from Deer Creek Winery just a bit east of here. The other was a red from Wilhelm Winery just a few miles up the road. I really liked the Shippenville Red.

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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:26:54am

re: #330 Dr Lizardo

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:28:05am

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:28:14am

Me likey some good New York Ice Wine.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:29:10am

re: #335 Eventual Carrion

We do local (at least pretty close) most often when it comes to wine. Last 3 bottles of wine we had this past week were Shippenville Red from Deer Creek Winery just a bit east of here. The other was a red from Wilhelm Winery just a few miles up the road. I really liked the Shippenville Red.

We are in contact with our friends and neighbors in the Veneto. They are all well so far, but showing the stress. For the forseeable, all the cheap wine we drink is going to be Italian.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:29:36am

Morning/Afternoon Lizardim from the cold and wet wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this raw spring day?

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danarchy  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:29:49am

re: #312 Targetpractice

It’s the speed, ease, and availability of influenza testing that makes those statistics possible. We’re likely going to be debating the “real” number of COVID-19 cases for years, simply because it took weeks to get testing started, longer to get it to more than a handful of people a day, and we still haven’t reached a period where everybody who should best tested is being tested. And any estimate is likely to miss a whole of “mild” cases or asymptomatic carriers who gave it to everyone around them without ever knowing they were carrying COVID-19.

I am pretty sure my 70 year old mom has it. She has had a dry cough for a week. No other symptoms though. My aunt and uncle who she spends a lot of time with were down for a week in bed with all of the symptoms, fever, fatigue, cough etc. They are both on the mend and my mom says she is feeling better. But my dad and brother who live in the same house have shown no symptoms at all. None of them have been tested.

I imagine that is playing out all over. When all of this is said and done and we can look at it in the rearview mirror we are going to find it was far more widespread than was being reported and with a lower mortality rate than we are seeing from just confirmed cases.

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garzooma  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:31:22am

re: #200 unproven innocence

For a few days now, I’ve been troubled by one aspect of the info available on covid19.healthdata.org
—namely, projections for # deaths. Compared to my own simplistic modeling, they seemed to be way too low, by a factor of about 20 to 40.

Now I understand why. Excerpt from healthdata.org

The italicized (and bolded by me) part is why. I’ve been assuming one wave, perhaps slowed/stretched out significantly by social-distancing, self-isolation, ramping up testing, etc.

In summary, the published # deaths estimates are (currently) for only about 3% of our population(s) infected in the near future, so read the numbers with that in mind.

Another thing about the healthdata.org site: it projected 437 deaths on 3/28 (or in the range of 380-508). In fact, there were 525 deaths yesterday. Similar for preceding days. The projections are being overtaken by reality.

They say “We are updating the model regularly to track new numbers and changes in these policies, and the estimates may change accordingly.” So maybe this will be updated after the weekend.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:31:30am

re: #316 BigPapa

There is a Grocery Outlet Bargain Market nearby that has a great array of screw top wine for $5-7. Apparently it’s a thing now — not limited to fortified wines like in years past

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mmmirele  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:31:50am

The allegedly pro-life church that I have picketed in the past isn’t having church at the church they rent in my neighborhood today. No, they’re having church 36 miles away presumably because the very conservative Presbyterians didn’t want their church turned into a Petri dish of coronavirus.

Remember, these are the same asshats who picket Planned Parenthood and harass women who get abortions. I told Jeff Durbin off. Now I’m getting attacked by his flying monkeys. Fuck that noise.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:32:12am

OFFS:

The excuse-making seems to have begun now that it’s pretty much impossible for Bernie to win…again.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:32:32am

re: #336 Mescalero09

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:33:43am

re: #323 BigPapa

Oh no, does Khal have the rona?

He thought he did — I don’t recall that he had a test that confirmed that diagnosis.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:35:15am

Anybody wanna point out to Candace that even the low-end of that would blow past those flu statistics she just whined about?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:35:29am

re: #345 Targetpractice

OFFS:

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The excuse-making seems to have begun now that it’s pretty much impossible for Bernie to win…again.

Didn’t Warren have a plan for combating coronavirus before any of the other candidates?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:37:37am

re: #341 danarchy

I am pretty sure my 70 year old mom has it. She has had a dry cough for a week. No other symptoms though. My aunt and uncle who she spends a lot of time with were down for a week in bed with all of the symptoms, fever, fatigue, cough etc. They are both on the mend and my mom says she is feeling better. But my dad and brother who live in the same house have shown no symptoms at all. None of them have been tested.

I imagine that is playing out all over. When all of this is said and done and we can look at it in the rearview mirror we are going to find it was far more widespread than was being reported and with a lower mortality rate than we are seeing from just confirmed cases.

An emergency room physician from one of the hardest-hit parts of Italy reminded us of the same thing when asked about Italy’s high mortality — they are not doing wide testing, so only people who are really sick are counted. (South Korea and the Diamond Princess did broad testing, and report low mortality. For the rest, we don’t know.)

It also bears repeating that Italy’s 10,000 deaths is from a population of 60 million.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:37:44am

re: #308 jaunte

Plus they’re after the market closes. He didn’t like the market tanking in real time while he was yammering.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:37:51am

re: #349 Hecuba’s daughter

Didn’t Warren have a plan for combating coronavirus before any of the other candidates?

I don’t think there were many things she didn’t have a plan for.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:39:22am

When this virus is gone (either by exhaustion or by vaccine) and all of my bills paid I am going to give WHYY a few more dollars. They are showing a lot of good shows that are keeping me occupied. Right now they are re-running The Philadelphia Orchestra concert that was recorded on March 12.
whyy.org

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:40:02am

re: #343 So Cal Greek Hippie

There is a Grocery Outlet Bargain Market nearby that has a great array of screw top wine for $5-7. Apparently it’s a thing now — not limited to fortified wines like in years past

Screw caps are fine for the vast majority of wines but the US market still likes corks. Aussies DGAF. For a wine that needs actual aging a case can be made for cork. Marketing found out that pretentiousness increases profits.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:40:03am

re: #343 So Cal Greek Hippie

There is a Grocery Outlet Bargain Market nearby that has a great array of screw top wine for $5-7. Apparently it’s a thing now — not limited to fortified wines like in years past

I was at a vineyard at the beginning of this year (seems like a long time ago) where one of the vintners was asked about the difference between corks and caps. He said it made no difference.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:40:15am

re: #341 danarchy

I imagine that is playing out all over. When all of this is said and done and we can look at it in the rearview mirror we are going to find it was far more widespread than was being reported and with a lower mortality rate than we are seeing from just confirmed cases.

While that is possible, there is also significant under-reporting of cases, especially deaths. Nobody seriously believes that China has had basically no new cases for weeks.

The tests themselves are not necessarily reliable. A recent batch of test kits out of China showed only about a 30% reliability rate. With variability in testing it is hard to put much stock in rate of cases. Death rates and hospitalisations are probably our most reliable data right now.

What we are seeing is that given the incubation time, the deaths are basically baked in for the next few weeks. Even with stringent isolation, Italy and Spain had death doubling rates of 3 days for at least two weeks, and Italy is finally starting to slow its death doubling rate to 5-6 days after nearly a month of isolation. That still means weeks to months of death doublings before things may get under control. The same will happen here, except America will continue to have fresh outbreaks as states and cities continue to pretend that isolation is unnecessary.

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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:41:57am

re: #333 Dr Lizardo

A former student of mine who now works in Prague real estate messaged me this afternoon and she noted that there’s now over 1,000 brand-new rentals available in Prague 1 (city center, basically). They were formerly AirBnB units.

She said, “My god, AirBnB has collapsed almost overnight.”

GOOD. Maybe rents will become more affordable for people who actually work in tourist destinations now.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:42:06am

re: #319 The Pie Overlord!

IT WILL COME ROARING BACK!! (and by “IT” means the coronavirus, not MUH ECONOMY)

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They are lying about that. Forecasts were mediocre.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:43:25am

re: #333 Dr Lizardo

A former student of mine who now works in Prague real estate messaged me this afternoon and she noted that there’s now over 1,000 brand-new rentals available in Prague 1 (city center, basically). They were formerly AirBnB units.

She said, “My god, AirBnB has collapsed almost overnight.”

Saw a similar thing in Krakow: lots of apartments bought up and turned into AirBnB, which effectively removed them from the housing market.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:44:26am

re: #345 Targetpractice

OFFS:

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The excuse-making seems to have begun now that it’s pretty much impossible for Bernie to win…again.

This is also nonsense on its face. Massive societal change will in fact be easier, not harder, following a pandemic and subsequent depression. Huge catastrophes have led to big changes in society time and again. The status quo always favours the people who have made massive wealth and power under it - that’s why they always try to keep the status quo. Changing that dynamic may be catastrophic, but is also a catalyst for change.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:46:14am

re: #360 Renaissance_Man

This is also nonsense on its face. Massive societal change will in fact be easier, not harder, following a pandemic and subsequent depression. Huge catastrophes have led to big changes in society time and again. The status quo always favours the people who have made massive wealth and power under it - that’s why they always try to keep the status quo. Changing that dynamic may be catastrophic, but is also a catalyst for change.

Universal basic income and Medicare for All will both be a much easier sell after this passes and we see the damage done by massive unemployment and horrendous private insurance.

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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:46:22am

Howard Johnson Motor Lodge cocktail lounge circa 1989, 1:45 AM.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:48:04am

re: #358 Mike Lamb

They are lying about that. Forecasts were mediocre.

Ayep, even if the outbreak hadn’t occurred, most forecasts for this year (barring major events) were in the 1-2% range. The reality was that there was simply no real place for the economy to go, as “record” UE rates meant businesses had little room to grow. Wages were remaining stagnant or seeing modest gains, which inflation was only too happy to eat up and ask for more. The only thing that was going anywhere was the stock market, and we saw how quickly that crashed the moment the least bit of uncertainty asserted itself.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:49:08am

re: #357 stpaulbear

GOOD. Maybe rents will become more affordable for people who actually work in tourist destinations now.

Yeah; she also noted that prices will probably start coming down soon as well; tourist season in Prague (and Czech Republic in general) is done for this year. I have a former student who used to own a travel agency, and he’s got pretty solid instincts when it comes to tourism trends. I’ll have to ask him his opinion on when things will start to recover. Tourism isn’t to be sneezed at here - it accounts for ~10% of total GDP.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:49:10am

re: #108 makeitstop

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:49:39am

re: #363 Targetpractice

The only thing that was going anywhere was the stock market, and we saw how quickly that crashed the moment the least bit of uncertainty asserted itself.

Trump had assumed that as long as the stock market was burgeoning and unemployment low that he could brand it “unprecedented economic success” and people would buy it

which lots of people would have

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:49:48am

re: #360 Renaissance_Man

This is also nonsense on its face. Massive societal change will in fact be easier, not harder, following a pandemic and subsequent depression. Huge catastrophes have led to big changes in society time and again. The status quo always favours the people who have made massive wealth and power under it - that’s why they always try to keep the status quo. Changing that dynamic may be catastrophic, but is also a catalyst for change.

I’ve felt that if this had all happened a year sooner, Bernie might be in a much better spot right now. Not necessarily winning, but certainly closed to doing so than he is now.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:50:14am

re: #359 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Saw a similar thing in Krakow: lots of apartments bought up and turned into AirBnB, which effectively removed them from the housing market.

And I’ll bet those very same apartments will be back on the normal rental market in short order.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:51:05am

re: #362 Mescalero09

Howard Johnson Motor Lodge cocktail lounge circa 1989, 1:45 AM.

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LOL she’s sloshed.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:51:25am

re: #368 Dr Lizardo

You are correct. They will be ready and in short order.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:52:00am

re: #370 PhillyPretzel

You are correct. They will be ready and in short order.

they are already furnished…

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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:52:14am

re: #365 Joe Bacon 🌹

“Unusual flavor. All it’s own. Slightly acidic. Like stomach acid. Oh. My. I seem to have vomited.”

James Mason says: Thunderbird Wine Has An Unusual Flavor

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steve_davis  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:53:39am

re: #320 makeitstop

I’m going to call around and see about getting a new set of tires this week. A few years of parkway driving wears tires out in weird ways, and I’m due.

There’s one on the underside of the truck, but I’ve never taken it out to look at it, so it may be flat, too.

I do have a compressor, so I can pump up the flat and drive to wherever I’ll get the new tires. Might as well get 5 and have the spare replaced too, I guess.

my hyundai doesn’t even have a spare. they give you a can of something that holds the tire together long enough for you to make it to service. saves them probably 50 lbs.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:56:19am

re: #362 Mescalero09

Howard Johnson Motor Lodge cocktail lounge circa 1989, 1:45 AM.

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:56:38am

hah. So I’m watching a compilation of Afro/funk on Youtube and I get interrupted by a message from France Sante with coronavirus tips. Well done les gars. Back to Lady from Shakara by Fela and the Africa 70.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:57:29am

I am amazed at the number of Free Republic posters who are intimately familiar with the workings of the Portuguese health system.

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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:57:47am

I’ve been thinking about the PBS movie of Ursula LeGuin’s “The Lathe of Heaven” a lot recently. It’s about a man (George Orr) who’s dreams change reality, and the doctor who tries to use his dreams to “fix” the world. The scene below happens after the doctor suggests that George dream about overpopulation:

The Lathe Of Heaven-(Original 1980 PBS)-Part 6/12

Edit: Apparently you have to follow a link to YouTube to watch the video.

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 9:58:59am

Reminder: there is a direct correlation between CV mortality rate and the overloading of the hospital system. The going rate seems to be before overload, 2% seems to be max mortality, after, well above 2%.

Mortality is X (plus other factors), then hospital overload is x Y.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:02:20am

re: #377 stpaulbear

I’ve been thinking about the PBS movie of Ursula LeGuin’s “The Lathe of Heaven” a lot recently. It’s about a man (George Orr) who’s dreams change reality, and the doctor who tries to use his dreams to “fix” the world. The scene below happens after the doctor suggests that George dream about overpopulation:

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Wow, I remember watching that back in the day when I was in high school. Would’ve been in late 1986…film studies class. Only difference was because the Film Studies (and English lit) teacher was personal friends with Ursula K. LeGuin, he asked her to come in and take questions from us after we watched the last episode. Which she did. Which was all kinds of awesomesauce.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:03:18am

Italy reports their fewest new cases in four days, the fewest deaths in three days.

But their numbers have been going up and down for over a week now, so I think it’s too soon to conclude that their lockdown has slowed the transmission enough to be seen in the numbers.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:04:36am

re: #380 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Italy reports their fewest new cases in four days, the fewest deaths in three days.

But their numbers have been going up and down for over a week now, so I think it’s too soon to conclude that their lockdown has slowed the transmission enough to be seen in the numbers.

It’s frustrating trying to discuss this with my sister (who is absolutely going stir-crazy) because she keeps coming back with, “But my county hasn’t had a new case in a week!” That’s great, sis… That doesn’t mean that we’re on the back side of the curve. It’s too little data and besides, your county is so rural you might be counting bodies for weeks after, finding people whom nobody checked in on.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:04:40am

re: #380 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That is good news. Maybe if we shut down like that we might see the same or similar results.

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NetworkKed  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:09:03am

re: #380 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

worldometers.info

Looking at the spread graphs, I’d say that either they’ve managed to flatten the transmission curve or they’re hitting a limit in testing capacity. Hard to say. When new cases start going down for 3 days in a row…

Also weekend effects are going to do weird things to trends.

The death graph is still curving up, but that’s going to lag by 10+ days.

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:09:13am

re: #381 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s frustrating trying to discuss this with my sister (who is absolutely going stir-crazy) because she keeps coming back with, “But my county hasn’t had a new case in a week!” That’s great, sis… That doesn’t mean that we’re on the back side of the curve.

Sis needs to worry about this wave, then Wave 2, then Wave 3. This is gonna be a long haul.

I think it will be worse than we thought but in context of the ‘Do Nothing/Do Something/Do a Bunch’ spectrum. Depending on areas of the country there should be some epistemic data to gain knowledge that ‘over reacting’ did make it much less bad than it could have been. Some will still fight the data, but there are still flat earthers.

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retired cynic  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:10:43am

re: #320 makeitstop

… I do have a compressor, so I can pump up the flat and drive to wherever I’ll get the new tires. Might as well get 5 and have the spare replaced too, I guess.

Or save the best of the four. Do the same next time. Country bumpkin cheapo!

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:10:47am

re: #344 mmmirele

The major center for coronavirus infection in France is the Grande Est, centered around the town of Mulhouse.

Why there? Because between the 17th and 25th of February there was an meeting of 2,500 evangelicals in Mulouse.

In retrospect it was the start of mass infection in France. La Bombe Atomique.

Cases as far away as French Guiana have been traced to the meeting.

The situation in the Grande Est is so critical that patients are being evacuated to Germany and Switzerland, Bordeaux and Nantes, by ambulance, helicopter, military airlift and whole medicalised TGV trains. 1000 volunteer doctors and nurses from the rest of France are arriving starting this morning.

Praise the Lord!

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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:11:52am

re: #379 Dr Lizardo

Wow, I remember watching that back in the day when I was in high school. Would’ve been in late 1986…film studies class. Only difference was because the Film Studies (and English lit) teacher was personal friends with Ursula K. LeGuin, he asked her to come in and take questions from us after we watched the last episode. Which she did. Which was all kinds of awesomesauce.

Bill Moyer interviewed Ursula LeGuin about the book and the making of the movie. It’s pretty awesome too.

Bill Moyers interview with Ursula K. LeGuin about “Lathe of Heaven”

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:12:08am

re: #385 retired cynic

My late dad did that too. The best of the old tires became the spare. And I am a “city slicker.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:12:51am

Meanwhile the megachurch down the street is adding additional services today due to…”demand”…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:13:20am

re: #386 John Hughes

The major center for coronavirus infection in France is the Grande Est, centered around the town of Mulhouse.

My kids, who live with their mom in neighboring Alsace, are under total lockdown and need a pass just to leave their house.

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:13:53am

re: #352 Targetpractice

You should see Warren’s plan for the arrival of the Great Old Ones…

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mmmirele  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:15:30am

re: #333 Dr Lizardo

A former student of mine who now works in Prague real estate messaged me this afternoon and she noted that there’s now over 1,000 brand-new rentals available in Prague 1 (city center, basically). They were formerly AirBnB units.

She said, “My god, AirBnB has collapsed almost overnight.”

This is going to sound awful, but I’m glad. When AirBnB was merely someone renting out a room (and I did it a couple of times that way when going to Boston), it was fine. But when whole apartments and neighborhoods were removed from housing stocks, it drove up rents everywhere. If this brings back some sanity to the rental market, that’s fine with me.

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:15:37am

re: #389 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile the megachurch down the street is adding additional services today due to…”demand”…

They need to read about Florida not looking good.

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:16:20am

re: #377 stpaulbear

I’ve been thinking about the PBS movie of Ursula LeGuin’s “The Lathe of Heaven” a lot recently. It’s about a man (George Orr) who’s dreams change reality, and the doctor who tries to use his dreams to “fix” the world. The scene below happens after the doctor suggests that George dream about overpopulation:

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Edit: Apparently you have to follow a link to YouTube to watch the video.

I remember that film. I distinctly remember a robot conversing with George and calling him ‘Jor-Jor.’

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:16:28am

re: #310 makeitstop

I have a flat tire on my truck. Now what?

Elvis Costello & The Attractions - Pump It Up

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Decatur Deb  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:16:53am

re: #389 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile the megachurch down the street is adding additional services today due to…”demand”…

Pretty normal—during plague seasons new churches were built specifically so people could crowd them.

Santa Maria en Salute
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:17:37am

re: #392 mmmirele

This is going to sound awful, but I’m glad. When AirBnB was merely someone renting out a room (and I did it a couple of times that way when going to Boston), it was fine. But when whole apartments and neighborhoods were removed from housing stocks, it drove up rents everywhere. If this brings back some sanity to the rental market, that’s fine with me.

My ex-GF got a nasty letter from the City of Frankfurt, reminding her that if she rents her place out more than a few weeks a year while she is on vacation, then she is in violation of city zoning ordinances and subject to a fine.

She was in between jobs and doing quite well sub-letting her place (the landlord allowed it), going off on trips, or staying with me or other freinds.

AirBnB of course does not give a shit about such matters…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:17:37am

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:19:59am

re: #334 BigPapa

I’m going to buy this guy’s book. Thread:

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I also recommend Kurt Andersen’s Fantasyland.

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:22:29am

re: #377 stpaulbear

Damn, they made a film of that?

When Orr dreams of an end to racism (everyone turns grey) and realises that the love of his life was effectively created by racism and so no longer exists… I cried.

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makeitstop  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:23:52am

Go, NYC. And Fuck Trump.

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mmmirele  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:23:53am

re: #389 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile the megachurch down the street is adding additional services today due to…”demand”…

Which megachurch? They need to be named and shamed.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:24:02am

My goal for today is to take a shower.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:25:05am

re: #403 I Would Prefer Not To

My goal for today is to take a shower.

I even got out for a walk, which was not planned but my coffee had not done the trick and I needed to wake up.

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:27:06am

re: #403 I Would Prefer Not To

My goal for today is to take a shower.

Let’s properly manage expectations tho

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:28:00am

re: #374 Teukka

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:28:14am

re: #403 I Would Prefer Not To

My goal for today is to take a shower.

Yep. I may even trim my nose hair and pluck a few tufts from my ears.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:29:06am

re: #392 mmmirele

This is going to sound awful, but I’m glad. When AirBnB was merely someone renting out a room (and I did it a couple of times that way when going to Boston), it was fine. But when whole apartments and neighborhoods were removed from housing stocks, it drove up rents everywhere. If this brings back some sanity to the rental market, that’s fine with me.

AirBnB started off as a fine enough idea, but it all too quickly became a scourge. If it mostly vanished, I’d shed no tears.

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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:29:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:29:50am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:30:17am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:30:40am

re: #409 Mescalero09

That is nice of them. Music in cases such as these helps. :)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:31:04am

re: #403 I Would Prefer Not To

My goal for today is to take a shower.

Me? I would prefer not to. 😁😂

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:31:13am

The Cheeto Sociopath brags about his ratings. HIS FUCKING RATINGS.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:31:14am

Faux has come out with their excus…er, reason for Pirro looking shit-faced:

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mmmirele  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:31:30am

Arizona is now up to 912 cases and 16 deaths.

A week ago we had 152 cases and 2 deaths.

And it’s for damn certain that not everyone is getting tested.

Doug Ducey refuses to shut the state down, too. He’s R-IncorrigiblyStupid.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:31:44am
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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:31:49am

re: #403 I Would Prefer Not To

My goal for today is to take a shower.

Show-er? What nonsense word is this?

/

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:31:58am

I was going to clean my car but it’s too cold outside.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:32:07am
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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:32:45am

re: #400 John Hughes

Damn, they made a film of that?

When Orr dreams of an end to racism (everyone turns grey) and realises that the love of his life was effectively created by racism and so no longer exists… I cried.

The film mucks with that, and it creates a logic flaw in the film.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:34:17am

SO YOU SHOW US HOW TO DO IT, Count De Monay

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:34:54am

re: #415 Targetpractice

Faux has come out with their excus…er, reason for Pirro looking shit-faced:

Translation: She got shitfaced at home, forgot she was scheduled to broadcast, got an “oh shit” phone call, and dragged her sorry ass onto the camera and embarrassed herself.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:35:02am

re: #422 The Pie Overlord!

SO YOU SHOW US HOW TO DO IT, Count De Monay

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DA FUCK!?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:35:24am

re: #393 BigPapa

They need to read about Florida not looking good.

Why the Pulpit Pimp down the street says, “Our Gawd is an AWESOME Gawd who will shield his children from everything!”

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pimp is counting on folks to die and get a hold of their life insurance payouts…

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:36:17am

re: #422 The Pie Overlord!

re: #424 Targetpractice

Now I am not good with numbers but I know that is not possible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:36:37am

re: #422 The Pie Overlord!

Steve Mnuchin insists Americans can live on just $17/day during pandemic

we don’t want to spoil them with the luxury of living on $18/day

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:36:50am

re: #427 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we don’t want to spoil them with the luxury of living on $18/day

$20 is right out.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:36:59am

re: #426 PhillyPretzel

Now I am not good with numbers but I know that is not possible.

Quick, call McDonald’s, they’ll surely be able to budget that!

//

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Charles Johnson  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:37:40am

Absolutely fucking unreal.

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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:38:17am

re: #430 Charles Johnson

He is fucking insane.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:38:39am

re: #430 Charles Johnson

Absolutely fucking unreal.

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Millions do watch…out of morbid curiosity. There’s some entertainment value in watching a presidency slowly die.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:40:02am

Guy who thinks you can live off $17/day in America…also thinks you have no fucking right to know what he’s gonna do with access to a $500B slush fund.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:41:45am

re: #432 Targetpractice

Millions do watch…out of morbid curiosity. There’s some entertainment value in watching a presidency slowly die.

Yes, high ratings in the same way the naked guy smearing feces on himself in Times Square would be “high ratings.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:42:12am

re: #402 mmmirele

Which megachurch? They need to be named and shamed.

They’re not the only ones in the city. There are a cluster of the radical Xtian churches that are openly defying the city and state.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:42:48am

re: #433 Targetpractice

Guy who thinks you can live off $17/day in America…also thinks you have no fucking right to know what he’s gonna do with access to a $500B slush fund.

The same guy who made his fortune buying up foreclosed properties for pennies.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:44:54am

re: #431 Mescalero09

He is fucking insane.

And you know what? If Trump really does go down in flames this November, his reaction is probably gonna be a whole lot like that much-parodied scene in Der Untergang.

Except it won’t be parody. It’ll be Trump having a full-on Hitlerian meltdown when reality finally crashes in.

Downfall (2004) - Clip 1: Steiner’s Attack

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:45:01am

re: #435 Joe Bacon 🌹

They’re not the only ones in the city. There are a cluster of the radical Xtian churches that are openly defying the city and state.

I don’t understand this mindset at all. It isn’t a “lack of faith” to obey government mandates. The government is not “closing churches” because they’re cracking down on Christianity. There is literally no religious reason that holds water that they should continue to do this, and in fact, risking people’s lives is the least Christian thing they can do.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:45:02am
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Teddy's Person  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:45:18am

re: #425 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why the Pulpit Pimp down the street says, “Our Gawd is an AWESOME Gawd who will shield his children from everything!”

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pimp is counting on folks to die and get a hold of their life insurance payouts…

I really, really wish I could say, “Come on! They’re not that bad.” But all I can do is shake my head and say, “There’s always more down with the Pulpit Pimps.”

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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:45:28am

Watching Donald Trump is like watching the crazy guy at the end of the subway ranting and raving. You know he’s going to fuck up something, somebody. But maybe not before your stop.
Maybe you can get off.
We are all stuck on a subway car with Trump.
We ain’t getting off.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:45:37am

re: #430 Charles Johnson

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:46:31am

re: #422 The Pie Overlord!

SO YOU SHOW US HOW TO DO IT, Count De Monay

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Fuck Mnuchin!

I want that Wall Street Parasite to tell me how to pay my rent on a $120/week income…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:47:10am

re: #443 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fuck Mnuchin!

I want that Wall Street Parasite to tell me how to pay my rent on a $120/week income…

Go into debt, it works for rich people. Duh.

///

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:47:31am

An interesting point about that beach picture from yesterday or the day before:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:47:41am

re: #444 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Go into debt, it works for rich people. Duh.

///

then just walk away and reorganize…

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:47:47am

re: #406 Joe Bacon 🌹

“What’s the word…?”
///

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:48:07am

re: #445 Belafon

An interesting point about that beach picture from yesterday or the day before:

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But remember, the danger in Florida is all those New Yorkers traveling to the state.

//////

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:49:13am

re: #448 Targetpractice

But remember, the danger in Florida is all those New Yorkers traveling to the state.

//////

no danger from all those kids returning from spring break

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:49:23am

re: #422 The Pie Overlord!

SO YOU SHOW US HOW TO DO IT, Count De Monay

[Embedded content]

Guillotines.

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:49:50am

The irony.

Mom is 75 and we are in that transition where I’m starting to have to watch over her a little more and be the ‘adult’ more often. Such is life.

In this CV pandemic I’ve had to halt convos with ‘Mom, hold on. You need to hear this.’ Holding firm, reviewing facts, sharing interpretations, so she can make decisions, before she starts talking about whatever else pops into her mind. It’s been working for the most part but it’s been a long slog.

While in that moment I think about my own politics over the years and how a component of them was a reaction to my own parents, namely mom/her side of the family. There was a significant element of rebellion against my annoying Mom’s Side when I was first charmed by the philosophy of Libertarian Gliberty. Even thought they ended being, for the most part, on the right side of things, they made a horrible case for it, and I held them accountable for that.

But now, I think of that Sexton thread on the American political system and how that would have been outright rejected by my Mom’s Side, even though they were Democrats. Probably even only 10 years ago, definitely by my Uncle, a staunch pro Union/anti-Government/latent vanilla racist Democrat.

She just shared that Sexton thread I posted on Facebook. A few days ago, when The Wife Unit was setting up a weekend meet with mom, she told Wifey ‘whatever my son agrees is safe or approves.’

It’s so ironic that I hold that much sway over her now. but she still likes fucking pineapple on pizza so whatever.

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sagehen  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:49:52am

re: #392 mmmirele

This is going to sound awful, but I’m glad. When AirBnB was merely someone renting out a room (and I did it a couple of times that way when going to Boston), it was fine. But when whole apartments and neighborhoods were removed from housing stocks, it drove up rents everywhere. If this brings back some sanity to the rental market, that’s fine with me.

I wonder how many Air B&B’s are in Los Angeles, and how that relates to the massive number of homeless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:52:15am

re: #452 sagehen

I wonder how man Air B&B’s are in Los Angeles, and how that relates to the massive number of homeless.

they have long insisted that there is no overlap between availability of permanent houseing and temporary rental housing.

basically, like uber, it is a business model based on a total disrespect for social responsibility and set up to enrich a few at the expense of the greater community.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:52:18am

According to Steve, that $1,200 is supposed to last you through what the WH thinks is gonna be the duration of this outbreak: 2.5 months. Not weeks, months. I wonder if his boss, Mr “We’re going to reopen by Easter!” knows that his Treasury Dept is planning for folks to be without an income for 2 1/2 months?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:53:07am

re: #439 Belafon

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HRH Stanley Sea  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:53:12am
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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:53:27am
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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:54:24am

re: #403 I Would Prefer Not To

My goal was not to get shitfaced. Reader, I failed.

Life in a time of coronavirus.

Now playing: Love is the message, 1974.

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Teukka  Mar 29, 2020 • 10:57:47am
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:00:28am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:01:31am

re: #460 Ace-o-aces

HER EMAILS, CORAL!

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sagehen  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:03:25am

re: #433 Targetpractice

Guy who thinks you can live off $17/day in America…also thinks you have no fucking right to know what he’s gonna do with access to a $500B slush fund.

$500 billion is more than $1500 per American.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:03:58am

re: #460 Ace-o-aces

re: #461 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The horse is dead stop beating it or you will break the stick.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:04:22am
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Kilroy was here  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:08:20am
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BeachDem  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:09:35am

re: #441 Mescalero09

Watching Donald Trump is like watching the crazy guy at the end of the subway ranting and raving. You know he’s going to fuck up something, somebody. But maybe not before your stop.
Maybe you can get off.
We are all stuck on a subway car with Trump.
We ain’t getting off.

Or like “The Incident”

Stark melodrama about two thrill seeking tough guys who terrorize late-night passengers on a New York City train. The random victims are more concerned with their own problems than helping each other and pray that they won’t be next. But it’s going to take a lot more than prayer to end this nightmare of fear and violence.

imdb.com

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:11:09am

The Coronavirus death toll would be a LOT higher if Hillary were president for the simple fact that republicans would not follow any advice that she would have given.

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:13:12am

Chuck Todd jumps feet-first into the wood chipper:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:14:31am

Irony is fucking dead

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BigPapa  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:16:05am

re: #463 PhillyPretzel

The horse is dead stop beating it or you will break the stick.

CORAL!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:17:23am
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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:18:26am
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mmmirele  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:19:42am

re: #465 Kilroy was here

Yesterday’s tornadoes

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Video

OK, that reminded me of back in 1999 when stupid me stood in the entrance to a shopping mall across from Temple Square in Salt Lake City and watched a tornado leap over the Mormon Temple. I would call these people dumbasses, but I was a dumbass for standing there.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:20:24am

“All is well, comrade. Trust in our Fearless Leader!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:21:09am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

Happy National Vietnam War Veterans Day to all of our Vietnam era Veterans. You have earned our gratitude and thanks by your actions years ago and what you have done since returning home. The Nation thanks you and your families for your service and sacrifice. We love you!

When is National Bone Spur Day?

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Kilroy was here  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:21:27am

re: #473 mmmirele

OK, that reminded me of back in 1999 when stupid me stood in the entrance to a shopping mall across from Temple Square in Salt Lake City and watched a tornado leap over the Mormon Temple. I would call these people dumbasses, but I was a dumbass for standing there.

I went to a hurricane party in Texas. Yah.. it was awesomely stupid. Got lucky and didn’t flood my car with the storm surge.

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danarchy  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:22:07am

re: #474 Dr Lizardo

[Embedded content]

“All is well, comrade. Trust in our Fearless Leader!”

It’s ok, their hackers can work from home.

//

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:22:14am

re: #465 Kilroy was here

Yesterday’s tornadoes

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My wife is from there, so we’ve been paying special attention. Here’s google maps showing road closures there:

It’s all closed
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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:23:08am

re: #415 Targetpractice

If she’d been in the studio someone would have been on hand with the black coffee and naxalone.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:23:54am

re: #477 danarchy

It’s ok, their hackers can work from home.

//

It’s gotta be an absolute shitstorm in Moscow. I mean, I know the Kremlin won’t openly admit to it, but FFS they’re putting Moscow in lockdown? Yeah, that’s……unusual, shall we say?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:24:13am

re: #450 Renaissance_Man

Speaking of those…do you know what it would cost to build one?

$1200. So, if anyone comes into a sudden $1200 windfall in the next couple of months…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:24:47am

Rocky Mountain Mike living room concert. Playing actual songs that aren’t parodies.

Hello From My Living Room

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:24:49am

re: #468 Targetpractice

Chuck Todd jumps feet-first into the wood chipper:

[Embedded content]

Why didn’t Chuck U ask that when over 4,000 innocent people died in Puerto Rico?

Why didn’t Chuck U ask that when innocent children were dying in ICE cages?

We know why!

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Teddy's Person  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:25:36am

re: #481 Sufficient unto the day…

Speaking of those…do you know what it would cost to build one?

$1200. So, if anyone comes into a sudden $1200 windfall in the next couple of months…

If a few of us pool our resources, we could build a luxury model.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:25:41am

re: #483 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why didn’t Chuck U ask that when over 4,000 innocent people died in Puerto Rico?

Why didn’t Chuck U ask that when innocent children were dying in ICE cages?

We know why!

wrong color

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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:26:13am

Brain bleach.
Roo is Lassie, and Nickel as the Beaver. Crouton as June.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:26:33am

re: #484 Teddy’s Person

A gold-plated blade would be flashy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:26:50am

re: #480 Dr Lizardo

It’s gotta be an absolute shitstorm in Moscow. I mean, I know the Kremlin won’t openly admit to it, but FFS they’re putting Moscow in lockdown? Yeah, that’s……unusual, shall we say?

Their health care system is in no shape to deal with this…and they know it.

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sagehen  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:28:01am

Is it only “people of a certain age” who catch the resonance of this particular question? Or does it twinge for everybody?

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NetworkKed  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:29:07am

Chuck is an easily-led doofus, but once in a while he finds a nut.

Sadly it usually doesn’t last more than a few days.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:29:24am

re: #488 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Their health care system is in no shape to deal with this…and they know it.

Exactly. Dilapidated Soviet-era hospitals, some of which - according to reports - don’t even have running water. It’s going to be a disaster if (or when) the outbreak gets out of hand.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:31:25am

re: #489 sagehen

Is it only “people of a certain age” who catch the resonance of this particular question? Or does it twinge for everybody?

[Embedded content]

Granted, I was a little kid during the Watergate scandal, but I’ve read enough American history to know the phrase, “What did the President know and when did he know it?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:31:29am
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Teukka  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:31:47am

re: #491 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. Dilapidated Soviet-era hospitals, some of which - according to reports - don’t even have running water. It’s going to be a disaster if (or when) the outbreak gets out of hand.

FTFY.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:31:48am
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danarchy  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:32:52am

re: #492 Dr Lizardo

Granted, I was a little kid during the Watergate scandal, but I’ve read enough American history to know the phrase, “What did the President know and when did he know it?”

The line has since become kind of cliche. Don’t think it has the same impact for those of us who didn’t live through it.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:33:04am

re: #492 Dr Lizardo

I caught it too. This is a thousand times worse than Watergate.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:33:58am
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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:34:00am

re: #495 Ace-o-aces

“Now I own the tallest disaster in New York City!”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:34:43am

re: #494 Teukka

FTFY.

Sadly, you may well be right. And a lot of innocent people could needlessly lose their lives.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:36:46am

re: #497 PhillyPretzel

I caught it too. This is a thousand times worse than Watergate.

This bullshit really does make Watergate look like a “third-rate burglary attempt”.

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jaunte  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:37:31am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:37:39am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:37:51am

I was able to take a shower and cut my toenails. I’m not much better, but I’m not getting worse. I’m going to survive. Thanks for all your support.

Here’s what I posted on FB

Things I’m learning as a recover from the corona virus.
The pain is intense, the fatigue is overwhelming, but I’m lucky. I’m recovering at home. People are bringing me food. Thanks Katherine Koegel. I will survive.
I’m 59. (Sorry Sasha, I’ve been lying about my age since you were born.) I get how this virus kills people. The body has no resistance. I’m not sure if any older version of me could handle this.
Anyone that puts corporate profits above the health of the country is not your friend and never will be.
Same with anyone who knows more than the entire medical profession.
Grandmas and Grandpas are worth protecting.
This is my mid-life crisis. I did not ask for it, but here it is. When this is over, I’m going to do what I love and ignore most of the rest. If I fail, I will fail at what I love, what has meaning for me. I feel like I no longer have a choice. Life is short.
Stay home and love (from a distance) the ones that matter. Ignore the haters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:38:42am

thread

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:40:52am

re: #432 Targetpractice

Millions do watch…out of morbid curiosity. There’s some entertainment value in watching a presidency slowly die.

I may have the details wrong — someone here can correct them? A few days ago someone posted a link to a professor who warned about his experience. He was trying to teach students about religious grifters and thought it would be effective to expose them to how these con artists operate; to his dismay, he discovered that instead of being outraged by their dishonesty, the students were persuaded by the sermons. Propaganda works — and watching it can be dangerous to your mental health and your moral compass.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:41:02am

re: #504 I Would Prefer Not To

And I am 58 and that is why I am going to be using my sick time. I am okay so far but I do not want to expose myself to that virus. I am very happy to hear you are recovering and hopefully make a full recovery. I pray I never get it.

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:41:30am

re: #421 stpaulbear

Oh dear. no I don’t want to watch it. The whole point of the story.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:41:54am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:44:46am

re: #506 Hecuba’s daughter

I may have the details wrong — someone here can correct them? A few days ago someone posted a link to a professor who warned about his experience. He was trying to teach students about religious grifters and thought it would be effective to expose them to how these con artists operate; to his dismay, he discovered that instead of being outraged by their dishonesty, the students were persuaded by the sermons. Propaganda works — and watching it can be dangerous to your mental health and your moral compass.

They’ve have 2,000 years to refine the brainwashing effect from Xtianity…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:45:05am
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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:45:15am

re: #432 Targetpractice

Millions do watch…out of morbid curiosity. There’s some entertainment value in watching a presidency slowly die.

Ok, but how many is he going to drag down with him?

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stpaulbear  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:45:16am

re: #509 Ace-o-aces

They need to be farther apart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:46:31am
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:47:38am
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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:48:03am

That time Ward suggested a different position for sex to June…..

Rough on the Beaver

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:48:37am

re: #504 I Would Prefer Not To

So glad to hear there’s improvement!!

I thought your were like 35. You’re the comedian, right… Sent us a link to your stand-up act the other day…or am I confused? Was that you?

Now we need to hear from Khal.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:49:32am

Germany originally had a low mortality rate — less than .3% — when many other European nations were showing a rates of 1% or much higher. Well, the rate continues to creep up; it’s now .79%. My prediction last time — and it remains unchanged — is that the rate will eventually reach 1.5%. Of their 60,659 cases, 50,966 remain active and 1,979 are in serious/critical condition. They do have top quality medical care — maybe they have developed treatments that will keep the CFR lower.

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:49:34am

re: #442 Ace-o-aces

Jesus Fucking Christ.

If, in a time of national, nay, international, crisis his “ratings” are not 100% he is a failure.

He is a failure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:50:57am
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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:52:55am

re: #453 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

basically, like uber, it is a business model based on a total disrespect for

THE LAW

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:54:41am

re: #521 John Hughes

THE LAW

It just uses the existing gaps in our legal structure which is all about protecting property rights and money over anything else.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:56:32am

re: #517 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So glad to hear there’s improvement!!

I thought your were like 35. You’re the comedian, right… Sent us a link to your stand-up act the other day…or am I confused? Was that you?

Now we need to hear from Khal.

I look 35. But I was born in 1960. My kids are 23. And yes, as soon as a can do more stand up I’m going for it. My goal is to get a college tour. I’m not really interested in TV.

Comedy link bit.ly

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:56:38am

Gosh, I wonder where their faith in “de lawd” is?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:57:40am
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teleskiguy  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:58:40am

Endearing cat content.

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Mescalero09  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:59:04am

re: #525 Charles Johnson

Because Todd Starnes is desperately in need of being kicked under a parked car.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 29, 2020 • 11:59:48am

re: #518 Hecuba’s daughter

You’re probably right in that assessment. Germany has good healthcare, and has tested enough to get positives into medical intervention early. But while this prolongs life, it still appears that the longer one is on assisted breathing the more likely one is to die from Covid-19.

This is happening with the Grand Princess too. The death count there is up to 10. The longer the critical cases linger, the more likely they’ll end up on the fatality list. Having high quality health care prolonged their lives… but may not be enough.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:02:51pm

Besides deaths, the “serious/critical” count in Germany has also been low.

But not any more. It shot up to 1,979 when it started in two digits.

I suspect that in the US, people who finally go to the hospital or call an ambulance are in a late stage of infection. This makes the CFR seem high because these people get tested.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:03:40pm

re: #502 jaunte

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That the president knows this follows this tweets this is proud of this cares about this in the middle of this humanitarian crisis says all you need to know

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sagehen  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:04:51pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:05:02pm

re: #527 Mescalero09

Because Todd Starnes is desperately in need of being kicked under a parked car.

That’s too good for that lying right wing gasbag.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:06:07pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:07:01pm

re: #292 lawhawk

I can see that - some folks like a style, and have a palate accustomed to a version, anything that diverges even slightly will have issues.

I’ve gotten some small batch gins from local distilleries on my travels, and they are aromatic and herbaceous in ways the big brands never would be. Unique drinks that you could just sip neat or with a bit of ice.

Small batch gins are wonderful and the reason why my gin collection is taking over the kitchen.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:07:10pm

re: #533 Charles Johnson

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uh, why would we pay for their protection?

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Targetpractice  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:08:04pm

re: #533 Charles Johnson

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Is he high right now?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:08:41pm

re: #533 Charles Johnson

This all I could find on yahoo:
search.yahoo.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:10:36pm

re: #536 Targetpractice

Is he high right now?

Oh he’s still on the toilet waiting for Mr. Hankey to appear…

539
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:10:49pm

I will not let COVID-19 keep me down. From the other night.

Grilled Salmon on Ceder plank.

The Ceder planks valiantly gave their all while at the same time imparting their flavor unto the Salmon. Cleaning the ash up after the grill cooled down was kinda of a pain, but then again, that is why I have a shop vac. :-)

This coming Tuesday is going to be a honey mustard glazed rotisserie chicken with steamed broccoli and a bacon/ranch pasta salad.

540
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:11:30pm

Yet another Republican governor grabbing the Theocracy brass ring under the cover of a pandemic:

Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds’ medical procedures order to slow coronavirus halts abortions

An aide to Gov. Kim Reynolds said Friday that an order she issued this week to slow the spread of coronavirus had outlawed abortions in Iowa, but that interpretation was never explained to the organization that performs most abortions in the state and only came to light after it was released to a conservative talk radio host.

The abortion decision comes amid actions to slow the spread of coronavirus and to conserve medical equipment in case a surge of cases hits hospitals in coming weeks.

Iowa is experiencing a jump in confirmed cases of the coronavirus, with public health officials on Friday reporting 56 new positive tests and two additional deaths. Iowa now has 298 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and three deaths from the virus, according to public health officials.

Reynolds spokesman Pat Garrett said Friday the proclamation Reynolds enacted Thursday “suspends all nonessential or elective surgeries and procedures until April 16th, that includes surgical abortion procedures.”

Reynolds, a Republican and vocal abortion opponent, has publicly voiced her intention to find a way to end abortions in Iowa, if possible.

News that her proclamation would temporarily outlaw abortion came after a social media post by conservative Des Moines radio host Simon Conway, who posted a text he’d received from Garrett.

Funny thing is, here in California we’re not doing elective surgeries, but somehow figured out that an abortion may be an important necessary health decision.

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Belafon  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:11:32pm

re: #533 Charles Johnson

542
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:13:00pm

re: #535 Joe Bacon 🌹

uh, why would we pay for their protection?

It was an issue in Canada. Canada paid for part of their security when they were still royals. They paid their own thereafter. Canada recognizes the Queen of England. It’s complicated.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:15:31pm

re: #522 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It just uses the existing gaps in our legal structure which is all about protecting property rights and money over anything else.

Like a cruise line

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:16:59pm

Wow. Somebody holds Señor Snort’s feet to the fire!

“How can you be sure this economic tragedy won’t be longterm if there’s not a guarantee people will have jobs to return to?” Raddatz said. “I don’t see how it can be just weeks.”

“Well, listen, I say that — weeks — it could be four weeks, it could be eight weeks,” Kudlow replied. “I say that hopefully and I say that prayerfully. That’s what some of the science experts have been telling us. I don’t know if they’ll be right.”

Raddatz interrupted to point out that Kudlow had called the COVID-19 outbreak “contained” in an interview on CNBC.

“It was just a month ago you told CNBC that you thought the virus was contained in the country even though doctors were warning otherwise,” Raddatz observed. “You also downplayed the threat of a long-lasting economic tragedy.”

“Why should people trust you?” the ABC News host wondered.

crooksandliars.com

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:19:20pm

re: #467 b.d. (We’re on our own, Vote!)

The Coronavirus death toll would be a LOT higher if Hillary were president for the simple fact that republicans would not follow any advice that she would have given.

Well, no.

No republican has followed any “advice” that could reduce the death toll because the current so called government has given none.

What Hillary, or, fuck any competent president, possibly even including the shrub, could have done is given a clear line and support for the states.

Never forget that the parts of America where people actually live vote democrat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:21:04pm

re: #518 Hecuba’s daughter

Germany originally had a low mortality rate — less than .3% — when many other European nations were showing a rates of 1% or much higher. Well, the rate continues to creep up; it’s now .79%. My prediction last time — and it remains unchanged — is that the rate will eventually reach 1.5%. Of their 60,659 cases, 50,966 remain active and 1,979 are in serious/critical condition. They do have top quality medical care — maybe they have developed treatments that will keep the CFR lower.

they have yet to reach the point of turning people away

547
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:22:42pm

re: #523 I Would Prefer Not To

I liked the Yikes from the audience. Unabashed, no one will question where you stand.

548
John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:25:53pm

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

Irony died when Kissinger won the nobel peace prize.

It was dug out of its grave and hung in public in celebration of Donald “studio 54“‘s Vietnam Veteran’s day.

549
John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:29:02pm

re: #471 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, how does it taste? Will the barrels be shipped across the sea to make aged Scottish single malt hand sanitizer?

550
John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:31:20pm

re: #475 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Same day. Also national “did’t get a STD in Studio 54 day”.

551
John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:39:27pm

re: #509 Ace-o-aces

Fantastic. Source please

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:45:32pm

re: #528 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

You’re probably right in that assessment. Germany has good healthcare, and has tested enough to get positives into medical intervention early. But while this prolongs life, it still appears that the longer one is on assisted breathing the more likely one is to die from Covid-19.

This is happening with the Grand Princess too. The death count there is up to 10. The longer the critical cases linger, the more likely they’ll end up on the fatality list. Having high quality health care prolonged their lives… but may not be enough.

I think you mean Diamond Princess? (Where the “serious and critical” count is down to nine, so this may be over soon).

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 12:51:02pm

re: #522 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No, that’s their lie both AirBnB and Uber like to claim they’re “skating” around “gaps” in the law. But every time it comes to trial they lose.

Their business model is to do as much illegal shit as they can, then stall their court cases to make as much money as they can, leaving their “associates” in the shit.

They are criminal scum.

554
lawhawk  Mar 29, 2020 • 1:34:12pm

re: #338 BigPapa

Niagara icewines are killer. We had an Inskillen a few years back and it was absolutely the best.

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John Hughes  Mar 29, 2020 • 2:02:05pm

re: #535 Joe Bacon 🌹

uh, why would we pay for their protection?

Uh, because you pay for the protection of all US residents?

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 29, 2020 • 3:07:40pm

re: #422 The Pie Overlord!

SO YOU SHOW US HOW TO DO IT, Count De Monay

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Lets see, rent of $1200 a month is $40 a day right there before anything else. Just housing kinda blows the shit out of that budget right off for my daughter in Denver.


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