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teleskiguy  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:15:23pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:21:45pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:24:18pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:26:40pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Interesting Times  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:28:50pm

Devastating thread. Every word deserves to read, and re-read:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:31:21pm

From the previous thread:

re: #83 William Lewis

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:35:52pm

LOL

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:44:13pm

What I love about that video is that Tommy is playing the straight man, letting Jerry carry the weight.

They are both virtuoso talents on their axes.

Here’s Jerry playing on a Transatlantic Session with Catriona MacKay. The Swan 243. The most beautiful song in the world.

Transatlantic Sessions - Swan LK 243

Cat is a personal friend of my wife and I, and my wife plays the same clarsach, a Starfish Glenelle.

That video does not do her justice. She is a much more beautiful woman.

Here’s an absolutely ripping set of tunes with her main musical partner, Chris Stout who brilliantly plays fiddle in the Shetland style. But this is new music, and she uses the harp in a new way. Didn’t think it could be strummed instrument? Hold my beer and watch this shit!

Chris Stout & Catriona McKay WHITE NIGHTS-LIVE

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Dread Pirate  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:45:32pm

The sailor stationed on the southern island of Jeju was released from a hospital last week after recovering fully from the COVID-19 virus following monthlong treatment. But he redeveloped symptoms while in preventive quarantine, and tested positive again Tuesday, officials said, adding that he was immediately sent to a hospital. Last week, two other military personnel — an Army officer and an Air Force contractor — were found to have contracted the virus again after making full recoveries.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:47:03pm

Memories of the first time I tuned into KROQ in Los Angeles and this was the very first song I heard. Damn! Never heard anything like this in Pittsburgh!

Romeo Void - Never Say Never (Official Video)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:50:30pm
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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:55:36pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate

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Hugely troubling. It may be evolving, and if so, Katie bar the door.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 8:58:53pm

re: #12 austin_blue

Hugely troubling. It may be evolving, and if so, Katie bar the door.

Or it’s similar to the previous cases of “reinfection” where symptoms diminish, the tests (which are not super accurate) read it as negative, they’re declared recovered, and then the virus flares again.

Alternately, there are a few people who fail to develop immunity (just like with many other viruses, which is why they rely on all of us for whom the vaccines are helpful) and these folks lost that particular genetic lottery.

I can think of multiple explanations that better fit the data at hand without going right to “nobody develops immunity” or “the virus is evolving.” (It’s actually been fairly stable so far.)

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:01:22pm

re: #13 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Or it’s similar to the previous cases of “reinfection” where symptoms diminish, the tests (which are not super accurate) read it as negative, they’re declared recovered, and then the virus flares again.

Alternately, there are a few people who fail to develop immunity (just like with many other viruses, which is why they rely on all of us for whom the vaccines are helpful) and these folks lost that particular genetic lottery.

I can think of multiple explanations that better fit the data at hand without going right to “nobody develops immunity” or “the virus is evolving.” (It’s actually been fairly stable so far.)

Yah, but *three*?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:02:43pm

re: #14 austin_blue

Yah, but *three*?

Is three a large number?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:03:51pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate

The sailor stationed on the southern island of Jeju was released from a hospital last week after recovering fully from the COVID-19 virus following monthlong treatment. But he redeveloped symptoms while in preventive quarantine, and tested positive again Tuesday, officials said, adding that he was immediately sent to a hospital. Last week, two other military personnel — an Army officer and an Air Force contractor — were found to have contracted the virus again after making full recoveries.

I thought it might be good to point out that the personnel mentioned in the article are most likely Korean military. Not U.S.

Not that it isn’t concerning that people who recover appear to be capable of relapsing shortly after.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:09:10pm

I have raw sewage flowing up through my bath tub drain, again.
I have opened the outdoor sewage line clean-out port, and the sewage lake has formed, again.

So, I must limit my toilet usage and can’t really wash anything until they come and snake the sewer line tomorrow. Well, if they show up.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:09:37pm

re: #14 austin_blue

Yah, but *three*?

I could link you several stories from China and Japan if that would make you feel better? There have been multiple cases of symptoms diminishing and then flaring again in a relapse, so to speak - one province in China supposedly had a 14% rate of “reinfection,” by which they meant “tested positive again after testing negative and being declared recover.” Which, when you consider that your body does shed the virus for quite a while afterwards (this is common for many viruses and does not mean that the virus is contagious at this point - evidence suggests (including a study I read today) that it is in fact not, just your body clearing out the trash) and the test is mostly testing for fragments of the virus’s RNA sequence (but typically not the whole thing because mutations do happen and you don’t want to miss it just because one small bit changed, especially when that bit has no actual influence on how the virus behaves or acts - this is how we’ve been tracing the history of infections, btw, some really great work out of the University of Washington labs on this) and is less effective the less there is…not surprising.

Sorry, that sentence got really convoluted. Anyway, a different approach.

Consider it this way: with how infectious this virus is and how, because of that infectiousness, we’re stuffing all the COVID-19 patients into one wing of a hospital …or one hospital, or whatever… if the virus didn’t confer some sort of temporary immunity, the reported reinfection rate would be much, much higher.

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retired cynic  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:14:34pm

re: #13 klys (maker of Silmarils)

… Alternately, there are a few people who fail to develop immunity (just like with many other viruses, which is why they rely on all of us for whom the vaccines are helpful) and these folks lost that particular genetic lottery….

My mother was like that. She caught both kinds of measles and chicken pox multiple times as a child. Eventually her immune system caught up with her, and she stopped doing that, thank goodness!

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:16:10pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Is three a large number?

From the small number of the cohort who have recovered from COVID19?

It’s a fucking huge number.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:16:21pm
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Belafon  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:17:58pm

Something good that came out of the recent law:

AUSTIN — Texas’ mega-agency for health care and social services, saying it wants to ease state residents’ worries during the coronavirus emergency, has extended Medicaid coverage and food stamps for recipients whose benefits are up for renewal.

On Saturday, the Health and Human Services Commission said it has received two federal departments’ blessing to automatically renew Medicaid and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or food stamps, for an indefinite period.

Eligibility of both programs’ current recipients in Texas is extended “until further notice,” the commission said in a news release.

dallasnews.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:24:17pm

re: #20 austin_blue

From the small number of the cohort who have recovered from COVID19?

It’s a fucking huge number.

Something like 2/9 of all identified cases have recovered.
In South Korea the number is roughly 4/9 recovered

recurring infection in SK?
3 of ~4.200 recovered

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:26:34pm

The “reinfections” may just have been not-full recoveries, and the stress of returning to a more energetically demanding routine may have given the immune system of those people a challenge, and thus any lingering virus may have surged in their bodies?

Anyway, there are 2425 different genomes of the virus sequenced, non-functional changes in the genomes have been mapped. For now they all appear to be the same virus, as far as functionality is concerned. Whenther a single nucleotide change in a non-amino-acid-encoding part of the RNA somehow fools a human’s immune system I do not know.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:26:37pm

re: #18 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also, this is where the stuff about “people are still testing positive for the virus up to 37 days after they’ve shown symptoms” stuff is coming from, because their bodies are still taking out the trash, but the virus is not necessarily viable anymore at that point. (See this study out of Germany - link goes to an article that does a nice job of explaining it - and then this preprint posted today where they were looking for the full virus genome to indicate the presence of viable virus.)

Plus there’s the part where folks who have recovered and developed antibodies against the virus have been able to donate blood with those antibodies which has been used in treatment for severely ill patients (with positive results, although those patients also received other treatments so it is impossible to say for sure what worked - apologies I can’t put my hands on the study right now). And rhesus macaques that were infected with COVID-19 and then re-exposed were not reinfected.

Most of the experts on this, including those who are pretty pessimistic on a number of other fronts, seem to be in agreement that reinfection is really very unlikely. Coronaviruses in general undergo mutation differently from the flu as well and are therefore unlikely to see huge changes in a relatively short time period because of a built-in proofreading mechanism; evidence currently suggests that SARS-CoV-2 is no different in this regard.

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:27:38pm

re: #5 Interesting Times

Devastating thread. Every word deserves to read, and re-read:

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The hard part now is figuring out where the best place to donate is. If we had a functioning government, we’d be responding better. But we have the GOP in charge.

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:28:34pm

re: #17 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I have raw sewage flowing up through my bath tub drain, again.
I have opened the outdoor sewage line clean-out port, and the sewage lake has formed, again.

So, I must limit my toilet usage and can’t really wash anything until they come and snake the sewer line tomorrow. Well, if they show up.

How old is the house? Does it have orangeburg pipe? Mine was built in 1950 and had orangeburg, which was used from the 1860’s to the mid 1970’s. It lasts about 50 years if there are trees around it. We had to replace it. Cost: $1,200.

If it is, don’t roto-rooter it. Once it’s penetrated, it’s done. Replace it. It’ll save you money in the long run.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:28:38pm
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Belafon  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:39:49pm

This was all a plot by Big Duck to take over:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:42:22pm
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William Lewis  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:42:33pm

g’night all. Thank you.

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:46:08pm

re: #24 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The “reinfections” may just have been not-full recoveries, and the stress of returning to a more energetically demanding routine may have given the immune system of those people a challenge, and thus any lingering virus may have surged in their bodies?

Anyway, there are 2425 different genomes of the virus sequenced, non-functional changes in the genomes have been mapped. For now they all appear to be the same virus, as far as functionality is concerned. Whenther a single nucleotide change in a non-amino-acid-encoding part of the RNA somehow fools a human’s immune system I do not know.

Granted. It just seemed odd.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:48:32pm

re: #33 austin_blue

Granted. It just seemed odd.

As the preprint linked upstream notes, viral fragments will mean a positive test, but does not indicate a complete virus. But unless one does full genome sequencing, currently there is not a way to distinguish a viral fragment from a complete virus using the fast and inexpensive tests.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:49:02pm

Okay, the Germans have to have a word for when you forgot things at the grocery store and remember it just after walking out or in this case about 3 hours later.

DAMMIT.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:49:04pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:50:44pm

re: #26 Belafon

The hard part now is figuring out where the best place to donate is. If we had a functioning government, we’d be responding better. But we have the GOP in charge.

I’ve been donating $50 a month to my local food bank for years. Probably, there’s something like that in your area.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:50:50pm
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Belafon  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:51:57pm

Take this as more of a “We’ll have to see” but it is pretty cool that we’ve gotten to the point that we can design molecules to attempt to disrupt viruses like the one causing Covid-19:

dailykos.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:52:47pm

re: #34 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As the preprint linked upstream notes, viral fragments will mean a positive test, but does not indicate a complete virus. But unless one does full genome sequencing, currently there is not a way to distinguish a viral fragment from a complete virus using the fast and inexpensive tests.

And it’s worth noting that some people *do* redevelop symptoms, so they pretty clearly haven’t “recovered” despite having apparently improved and testing negative. I don’t have a good handle on the false negative rates of the test but it’s clearly higher than would be desirable based on the data out of various Chinese studies.

Anecdotal evidence from folks with (presumed) COVID-19 seems to be that the prognosis is not linear and there are good days and bad days. String enough good days together, couple it with a low viral load and a false negative or two and then…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:55:30pm

Anyway, apologies if I’ve made anyone’s eyes glaze over tonight; I have found the science a comfort because it at least means operating from a position of knowledge. And I know this is a community that likes being evidence based. :)

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:56:30pm

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Arrest those morons for interrupting necessary work or disturbing the peace. I’d say send covid-19 patients out to cough on them, but that would just add to the burden on medical workers.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:57:48pm

re: #41 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Anyway, apologies if I’ve made anyone’s eyes glaze over tonight; I have found the science a comfort because it at least means operating from a position of knowledge. And I know this is a community that likes being evidence based. :)

On the contrary, keep it coming.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:58:37pm

re: #40 klys (maker of Silmarils)

This is why it’s important to distinguish the virus (SARS-Cov-2) from the disease (Covid-19). I do wonder if the damage done by the virus, as manifested in the symptoms, is going to linger even if the body itself has been rid of virus.

If there is lung damage, for instance, this is something that may remain, thus causing shortness of breath and labored breathing.

I also wonder if by the time this is over that there will be a recognizable long term detriment to those who contracted the virus. Think of TB or polio, where the damage remains even though the virus is gone or neutralized somehow.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:59:21pm

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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As WC Fields would say, “Godfrey Daniels, these fools are ignorant!”

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Belafon  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:59:33pm

Weather underground has an interactive map tracking coronavirus numbers. It’s not entirely update to date, it still has Rockwall at 4 while we’re at 7 as of today, but it can still let you see where it’s spreading:

wunderground.com

If you google your city on their site, they’ve added a panel for coronavirus info in addition to the weather info.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 30, 2020 • 9:59:59pm

re: #29 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In fun really cool things, people who survived the 1918 flu outbreak still had immunity to that particular strain in 2008.

My grandmother survived the 1918 flu and lived till 2013 (aged 105). She always said she was still immune and, indeed, she apparently never contracted it in later years. She also said the pandemic was the worst public event of her lifetime, including both world wars and the great depression.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:01:04pm

re: #44 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This is why it’s important to distinguish the virus (SARS-Cov-2) from the disease (Covid-19). I do wonder if the damage done by the virus, as manifested in the symptoms, is going to linger even if the body itself has been rid of virus.

If there is lung damage, for instance, this is something that may remain, thus causing shortness of breath and labored breathing.

I also wonder if by the time this is over that there will be a recognizable long term detriment to those who contracted the virus. Think of TB or polio, where the damage remains even though the virus is gone or neutralized somehow.

I have read mixed assessment about the possibility of long-term lung damage; it’s hard to say one way or another. Evidence from SARS and MERS at least indicates it’s a possibility, but likely much more common in the severe cases. I haven’t followed up a ton on those studies and honestly it’s something they’re not going to be able to resolve anytime soon anyway, so…

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:02:02pm

re: #34 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

As the preprint linked upstream notes, viral fragments will mean a positive test, but does not indicate a complete virus. But unless one does full genome sequencing, currently there is not a way to distinguish a viral fragment from a complete virus using the fast and inexpensive tests.

Okay, if I’m understanding you, the fast tests *may* indicate you have the virus but are completely opaque if you *do* have the virus. Yes?

So the fast and inexpensive tests are maybes and not all definitive. If nothing is there you’re OK, (for now) but if anything is there, it’s a Meh?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:03:48pm

re: #42 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Arrest those morons for interrupting necessary work or disturbing the peace. I’d say send covid-19 patients out to cough on them, but that would just add to the burden on medical workers.

From her campaign site:

Ms. DeAnna Lorraine is a popular YouTube Host, Conservative Political commentator, Author of ‘Making Love Great Again!’ and Host of her show Winning The Culture War with DeAnna Lorraine - and recent Congressional Candidate running against Nancy Pelosi.

(more)
deannaforcongress.com (page loads very slowly)

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:03:56pm

re: #35 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Okay, the Germans have to have a word for when you forgot things at the grocery store and remember it just after walking out or in this case about 3 hours later.

DAMMIT.

Schadenfeckt.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:04:53pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Okay, if I’m understanding you, the fast tests *may* indicate you have the virus but are completely opaque if you *do* have the virus. Yes?

So the fast and inexpensive tests are maybes and not all definitive. If nothing is there you’re OK, (for now) but if anything is there, it’s a Meh?

It sounds to me as if the fast tests indicate that you’ve been exposed to the virus and should self-isolate.They’ll weed out the people who are completely clear, anyway.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:06:58pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Okay, if I’m understanding you, the fast tests *may* indicate you have the virus but are completely opaque if you *do* have the virus. Yes?

So the fast and inexpensive tests are maybes and not all definitive. If nothing is there you’re OK, (for now) but if anything is there, it’s a Meh?

The fast tests seem more likely to give false negatives compared to false positives from what I have seen. If anything comes up, you have it.

Where they get tripped up is if the viral load is low, which can happen early in the infection period or late in the infection period, because it’s detecting bits of the viral RNA in your nose/throat area. (Worth noting that septum from the lower lungs seems to be more accurate but is harder to sample for obvious reasons; we’re working with what we’ve got here.)

The fast tests do not indicate if you are infectious; the data on when you are able to transmit the disease is still limited. All the fast test can say is “parts of the virus are present in your body.”

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:08:57pm

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Okay, running against Nancy Pelosi is proof of insanity, a totally lost cause. Also too, bay area hospitals are, to the best of my knowledge, not overwhelmed. We went to full shelter in place relatively early, and there is some hope that it’s going to bend that curve well.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:10:07pm

re: #53 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also, getting the nose/throat swabs done right is apparently a bitch and if they’re not done right, that can contribute to an inaccurate result.

After my last flu test I am not super eager to find out.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:13:59pm

re: #54 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Okay, running against Nancy Pelosi is proof of insanity, a totally lost cause. Also too, bay area hospitals are, to the best of my knowledge, not overwhelmed. We went to full shelter in place relatively early, and there is some hope that it’s going to bend that curve well.

Oh the crazy which exudes from her “about” page on Facebook.

She also has the crazy eyes of one-L Michele Bachmann.

facebook.com

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:15:39pm

re: #53 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The fast tests seem more likely to give false negatives compared to false positives from what I have seen. If anything comes up, you have it.

Where they get tripped up is if the viral load is low, which can happen early in the infection period or late in the infection period, because it’s detecting bits of the viral RNA in your nose/throat area. (Worth noting that septum from the lower lungs seems to be more accurate but is harder to sample for obvious reasons; we’re working with what we’ve got here.)

The fast tests do not indicate if you are infectious; the data on when you are able to transmit the disease is still limited. All the fast test can say is “parts of the virus are present in your body.”

The problem I have with this is that the RNA in the virus, which is certainly a part of it, isn’t contagious. It’s just wasted gene chunks that last longer than the active virus itself and scare the shit out of people because it lasts longer at your checkout stand.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:18:38pm

re: #57 austin_blue

The problem I have with this is that the RNA in the virus, which is certainly a part of it, isn’t contagious. It’s just wasted gene chunks that last longer than the active virus itself and scare the shit out of people because it lasts longer at your checkout stand.

Well, sure. But that’s the thing to test for, because they can treat the swab so that any live virus turns into its RNA bits and we can find that quickly enough.

That’s why a positive test doesn’t necessarily indicate contagiousness but is the source of all the endless articles you’ll read about people still testing positive 37 days later. (Of course, early in the infection cycle it is likely live virus that’s the source and you should be considered infectious. But …nuance.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:18:39pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:20:16pm

On a happy note, instead of getting my to do list in order like I should be doing this entire time, the flu test reminded me of my first marathon so I’m looking at pictures of that instead. (Ran it 6 days after my diagnosis, modern drugs are magic.)

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austin_blue  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:22:14pm

Night all. Sweet Scaly Dreams.

Please look at the music videos I posted at #8, especially the second one. It’s killer bee.

Still not dead,

austin_blue.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:31:35pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:42:10pm

One of my current projects is fermenting veggies and I have some garlic dill green beans going at the moment and it smells like a very garlicky heaven in my kitchen right now.

Going to start some red onion tomorrow, I think, and then two batches of sauerkraut on Wednesday. mr. klys went through the first far faster than I expected. I’m considering if I should try some carrots too, but I got mini cucumbers so taking a stab at some proper full sour dills is probably the first priority.

Except I forgot the dill at the store today. :( :( :(

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2020 • 10:59:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 11:04:59pm

Cardinal Raymond Burke (Bishop of La Crosse, Wisc.) has a long post on his personal Website on the importance of hygiene and such to prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus.

He then goes on in his very long post attacking the state and “secular science,” then goes into a whole bunch of Biblical justifications why keeping churches open is a necessary service and should be exempt from closure orders for large crowds.

He also upholds the libertarian/conservative argument that the economy cannot be sacrificed.

Certainly, we are right to learn about and employ all of the natural means to defend ourselves against the contagion. It is a fundamental act of charity to use every prudent means to avoid contracting or spreading the coronavirus. The natural means of preventing the spread of the virus must, however, respect what we need to live, for example, access to food, water and medicine. The State, for instance, in its imposition of ever greater restrictions on the movement of individuals, provides that individuals can visit the supermarket and the pharmacy, with the observance of the precautions of social distancing and of use of disinfectants on the part of all involved.

and … doesn’t fail to attack LGBT people in his post as well.

Message on the Combat against the Coronavirus, COVID-19 (Goes to Cardinal Burke’s personal Website, very long post)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 30, 2020 • 11:06:57pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

You know, I get wanting changes that make the world better for everyone.

I just don’t happen to think working towards those changes requires being an asshole to everyone.

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Targetpractice  Mar 30, 2020 • 11:09:21pm

re: #67 klys (maker of Silmarils)

You know, I get wanting changes that make the world better for everyone.

I just don’t happen to think working towards those changes requires being an asshole to everyone.

Then congrats, you’re infinitely more mature than the average Sanders supporter.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 11:13:53pm

Thread, five tweets.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 11:17:59pm

Why I Am Not Leaving New York (Vogue, article by Molly Jong-Fast)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 11:43:16pm

In move likely aimed at Liberty University, on-campus teaching halted (WVEC television, Norfolk, Va.)

RICHMOND, Va. — Virginia’s governor has ordered all higher education institutions to stop any in-person instruction amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The move is likely directed at Liberty University. Gov. Ralph Northam announced the policy Monday at a news conference.

The evangelical college in Lynchburg led by President Jerry Falwell Jr. has faced intense criticism over its decision to welcome students back to campus last week after the end of their spring break.

(more)

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Dread Pirate  Mar 30, 2020 • 11:44:32pm

“There can be only one!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 30, 2020 • 11:58:05pm

Whelp, the governor just closed everything in the Nebraska Panhandle.

Scotts Bluff coronavirus case identified as ‘community spread,’ results in directed health measure (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, more at the link)

Panhandle public health officials have announced that directed health measures that limit public gatherings will be put into place as the result of a coronavirus case in Scotts Bluff County.

Panhandle Public Health Director Kim Engel said the office of Gov. Pete Ricketts has issued a directed health measure that will be put into place for the 11 counties of the Panhandle and Grant County. That directed health measure was issued early Monday evening after Panhandle health officials released Sunday that a man in his 30s tested positive for COVID-19.

The case in Scott’s Bluff County was determined to be community spread.
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Also Monday, Panhandle Public Health District confirmed that a man in his 50s residing in Kimball County has tested positive for COVID-19. This case is travel-related to Colorado, and the person is currently hospitalized.

Kimball County borders Colorado and Wyoming. Scott’s Bluff County borders Wyoming. None of the places listed in the left-hand bar of the article are places my wife and I went around the same time as him.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:00:15am

I think the CDC will soon be up to speed on what we already figured out. JFC, these people are slow in the head.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:01:07am

re: #73 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Edited to add article link to the comment, recycle #73

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:15:06am

*sigh*

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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:17:41am

Guess they couldn’t find any female US soldiers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:41:50am

re: #76 Targetpractice

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:43:04am

re: #78 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:48:25am

Why is President Trump saluting as the USNS Comfort left Norfolk Naval Station? He’s a civilian. I get seaman on board saluting whilst manning the rails; that is required for a government official.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:51:46am

(video, 4:46, includes awful music)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:00:56am

Nebraska has reported its third death from Covid-19, in Lincoln County (seat: North Platte), three counties east of me in western Nebraska.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:04:52am

re: #64 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Except I forgot the dill at the store today. :( :( :(

“I forgot dill? D’oh!”

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:14:19am

I’ve just come to realize that “At least you still got a job!” said during the start of a recession should rank up there with:

- A cop saying “I got 2 weeks til retirement!”

- A soldier talking about “the girl” he’s gonna marry when he gets home or the kid born after he shipped out that he ain’t never seen

- A famous thief/spy/etc agreeing to do “one last job” and then he’s “out”

- A cocky doctor who boasts about how he’s “never lost a patient”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:24:24am

re: #84 Targetpractice

I’ve just come to realize that “At least you still got a job!” said during the start of a recession should rank up there with:

- A cop saying “I got 2 weeks til retirement!”

- A soldier talking about “the girl” he’s gonna marry when he gets home or the kid born after he shipped out that he ain’t never seen

- A famous thief/spy/etc agreeing to do “one last job” and then he’s “out”

- A cocky doctor who boasts about how he’s “never lost a patient”

Today is my birthday (hooray!)

Up to now I can say that I have never spent a night in a hospital as a patient, that I have never broken a bone, that I am still free of any chronic pains or illness (save having to watch cholesterol and blood pressure).

So despite the ongoing lockup (Germany has been under restrictions since March 16) I guess I have some blessings to count.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:30:01am

Time has put up a free news resource for children in four age groups. The articles explain important things in the news now, and offer resources for news literacy for children. They include teaching tools and quizzes for parents to use.

It will be available for the rest of the school year.

time.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:31:39am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:42:04am

Via E-mail:
As part of the Government of Canada’s efforts to limit the spread of COVID-19, Parks Canada is encouraging Canadians to stay home and has suspended all visitor services and all visitor motor vehicle access to national parks, national historic sites, and national marine conservation areas, until further notice. (Everyone else can come, just not Canadians /s)

These measures are temporary and are being implemented to help protect the health and safety of our visitors, our employees, and all Canadians.

We know that the steps we are taking to help keep Canadians safe are an imposition on the many visitors who come and enjoy Parks Canada places each spring. We are hopeful that you will be understanding of the choices we are making under the unique circumstances we are all facing at this time.

Since this is an evolving situation, we encourage you to visit our website for regular updates and canada.ca for the latest information on COVID-19.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:49:10am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:06:26am

I’m going to log out for now, you lucky devils. Catch y’all later.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:25:19am

re: #64 klys (maker of Silmarils)

One of my current projects is fermenting veggies and I have some garlic dill green beans going at the moment and it smells like a very garlicky heaven in my kitchen right now.

Going to start some red onion tomorrow, I think, and then two batches of sauerkraut on Wednesday. mr. klys went through the first far faster than I expected. I’m considering if I should try some carrots too, but I got mini cucumbers so taking a stab at some proper full sour dills is probably the first priority.

Except I forgot the dill at the store today. :( :( :(

My brother cans stuff now as well. Makes his own marinara sauce from the mix of tomatoes in the garden. He also does pickles and a few varieties of relish. Plus he started doing “bread and butter” jalapeno slices* after I brought him a sample jar of those a friend of mine makes.

* - Like bread and butter pickles, but peppers. A very nice sweet and spicy hot combo that works really well on things like cheeseburgers.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:26:55am

re: #65 Targetpractice

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:31:18am

re: #79 Targetpractice

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:49:52am

re: #92 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Bernie and Co seem to think The Revolution will come faster the more bridges they burn.

this ain’t politics, it’s religion

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unproven innocence  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:54:51am

Fauci reveals why Trump changed his mind about re-opening US
I’ve been thinking about the recently publicized official
# of deaths estimates/projections in US for Covid-19:

“About 100,000 to 200,000” has been mentioned by Dr Fauci,
and I assume by others. These numbers are said to result from some sophisticated modeling.

For my own private simplistic modeling, I’ve needed an estimate for the current US population, and I’ve been using 320,000,000. That’s kinda close to 1,000,000,000/3 —one third of 1Billion, as a decent approximation.

I also noticed (and was more than a little surprised) that
1% of 3% of 1,000,000,000/3 = 100,000 and
2% of 3% of 1,000,000,000/3 = 200,000 —exactly—
where
1% is a reasonable estimate for the CFR —Case Fatality Rate,
2% is a slightly more pessimistic estimate for the CFR, and the
3% is the assumed fraction of the US population that will have been infected at the end of the “first wave”, implicitly assuming “success” for combinations of human behavioral changes, etc, for stopping (or greatly slowing) new infections in the US, so the percentage infected is somehow prevented from exceeding about 3% in the very near future.

More info about the 3% (=100% - 97%) here (as of March 31):
Length of the epidemic
Excerpt:

Length of the epidemic

Why do your estimates only go until July? Does that mean the outbreak will be over then?

Our model says that social distancing will likely lead to the end of the first wave of the epidemic by early June. The question of whether there will be a second wave of the epidemic will depend on what we do to avoid reintroducing COVID-19 into the population.

By end the of the first wave of the epidemic, an estimated 97% of the population of the United States will still be susceptible to the disease, so avoiding reintroduction of COVID-19 through mass screening, contact tracing, and quarantine will be essential to avoid a second wave.

(Bolding added.)
Note that “By end the of the first wave of the epidemic, an estimated 97% of the population of the United States will still be susceptible to the disease” means that *only* 3% (estimated) of the US population *will* have been infected by that time, according to this model. And of those infected, some percentage
will die. (Ie, 1% to 2% of that first 3% of the US population to be infected. Clear now?)

Of the 97% who may yet be infected *later*, some percentage will die, and (in my opinion) the “CFR” will likely exceed 10% and may approach 20% if hospital care is unavailable for whatever reason.

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SteelPH  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:00:07am

re: #65 Targetpractice

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Gotta love the people defending this garbage when it’s deliberately phrased in bad faith.
Like “When did you stop hitting your wife?”

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John Hughes  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:12:28am

re: #30 Belafon

Another group of ducks (with ducklings) got onto the peripherique Paris ring-road and had to be escorted off by police motorcyclists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:14:43am

re: #96 SteelPH

Gotta love the people defending this garbage when it’s deliberately phrased in bad faith.
Like “When did you stop hitting your wife?”

Meanwhile, they sail softballs at Trump instead of asking him whether he lied to the American people about the severity of the Corona threat or was simply willfully ignorant despite having access to competent advisers.

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:15:19am

re: #96 SteelPH

Gotta love the people defending this garbage when it’s deliberately phrased in bad faith.
Like “When did you stop hitting your wife?”

It’s especially worse when the woman engaged in it has spent more time attacking Democrats than she has going after Trump:

“With us or against us” is not how you grow a “movement.” The more that this shit goes on Bernie’s camp, the less leverage he’s gonna have if he chooses to carry this all the way to the convention.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:17:48am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Happy Birthday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:20:02am

re: #100 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Happy Birthday.

thank you. I am celebrating much as I celebrate most any other birthday. I might splurge and order a pizza later…

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SteelPH  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:21:08am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Happy birthmas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:22:23am

re: #102 SteelPH

Happy birthmas.

Thanks, Aries is a difficult sign to be unless you are a boorish ass, then it is perfect.

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:23:17am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Today is my birthday (hooray!)

Up to now I can say that I have never spent a night in a hospital as a patient, that I have never broken a bone, that I am still free of any chronic pains or illness (save having to watch cholesterol and blood pressure).

So despite the ongoing lockup (Germany has been under restrictions since March 16) I guess I have some blessings to count.

Happy birthday :) :D

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:25:07am

Well, duh.

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:25:49am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Today is my birthday (hooray!)

Up to now I can say that I have never spent a night in a hospital as a patient, that I have never broken a bone, that I am still free of any chronic pains or illness (save having to watch cholesterol and blood pressure).

So despite the ongoing lockup (Germany has been under restrictions since March 16) I guess I have some blessings to count.

Sorry about not saying happy birthday sooner. And while I can’t claim to have gone through life without breaking any bones or spent the night in the hospital (granted, when I was very young), I can say that I’m not suffering any chronic pains or illness.

Thank Zod for small favors.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:26:47am

re: #104 Teukka

Happy birthday :) :D

Thank you, I can also be thankful to have four healthy kids (although I cannot see them for the time being as they live with their mom in France and the border is closed)

That I have a lovely and intelligent girlfriend (whom I cannot see as she works for the German Federal reserve in Düsseldorf and has to go in by public transportation every other day as there is a lot of work that cannot be done remotely, and I am simply safer here in my little village)

And that I have a lovely village to live in with vineyards to get out into for walks and a bakery/shop that sells most essentials and a produce truck that comes on Saturdays, so I really only have to leave to get to the nearest grocery store every other week or so…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:31:54am

re: #105 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Well, duh.

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He has this disgusting need to be worshipped like he’s our benevolent monarch. He never acknowledges his critics as legitimate or even real. I just want him gone so badly. He’s destroying our country.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:31:56am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Happy Birthday!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:32:45am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Happy birthday!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:33:03am

re: #108 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He has this disgusting need to be worshipped like he’s our benevolent monarch. He never acknowledges his critics as legitimate or even real. I just want him gone so badly. He’s destroying our country.

an inability to rise above criticism

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:34:57am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

an inability to rise above criticism

Yep. HBD btw. Hope you find some way to enjoy it. I’m just so sick thinking about all this. We’re finally stayed at home here.

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BigPapa  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:38:02am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Happy Birthday. Enjoy your pizza, with whatever you like on it. No judgement from me on your pizza toppings today, and today only.

I cannot say I’ve never had a broken bone. My collar bone broke, but it wasn’t my fault. A girl broke it by pushing me when I was running. I was running from her, and she was older and bigger, and I was laughing, so she caught up to me right quick. I was laughing, and running, because I insulted her. I was on a 12 and Under soccer team, and our coach also had an Under 16 Girls soccer team, and we scrimmaged and won. And my mouth was running. Come to think of it, I deserved it. Glad I got the asshole out of me early.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:38:08am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

thank you. I am celebrating much as I celebrate most any other birthday. I might splurge and order a pizza later…

For me it’s usually a small bottle of high end Crown. Plus I also get to “celebrate” twice a year now.

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:38:55am

re: #105 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Well, duh.

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Three words: Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Fits two of the nine criteria listed in the DSM-5:

1. Need for continual admiration from others
2. Sense of entitlement to special treatment and to obedience from others

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:38:58am

This is your daily SARS-CoV-2 / CoViD-19 joke.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:39:03am

my pizza of choice is pepperoni and mushroom.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:39:37am

re: #116 Teukka

were they battered and deep fried?

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:41:10am

re: #118 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

were they battered and deep fried?

The bats, the TP or the crazy people?

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:42:41am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

my pizza of choice is pepperoni and mushroom.

Sounds good to me. I’m a simple guy. Even just a pepproni and cheese pizza will suit me fine. But there’s gotta be at least one topping on a pizza, I can’t stand just plain cheese. To me, that’s like ordering plain vanilla ice cream without any toppings or syrup: What’s the point?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:47:26am

re: #120 Targetpractice

Sounds good to me. I’m a simple guy. Even just a pepproni and cheese pizza will suit me fine. But there’s gotta be at least one topping on a pizza, I can’t stand just plain cheese. To me, that’s like ordering plain vanilla ice cream without any toppings or syrup: What’s the point?

I agree. Two toppings, even

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:47:48am

So I have a dumb idea. As airplanes sit idle, is it possible to use the oxygen on these planes for something? Not people who need to be intubated, of course, but somehow leverage what’s available.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:51:32am

re: #122 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Pandemic delivering ‘shock’ to airlines, says International Air Transport Association

🇺🇸 American Airlines requests $12bn in US support
🇩🇪 Passengers drop 90.7% at Frankfurt airport
🇬🇧 British Airways suspends all London Gatwick flights

Thing is, even after the crisis passes, people are going to be hesitant about stuffing themselves into crowded metal tubes with recirculated air…

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BigPapa  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:56:38am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

my pizza of choice is pepperoni and mushroom.

top shelf combo. I like that, plus garlic. For me a classic combo.

When I made pizza I used to do a linguica + white onion. The pizza joint I worked had unskinned and uncooked linguica, very sweet, but made pizzas too oily. I figured out on a slow night to take a skillet and break it up and do a flash fry on it before putting on pizza, sweating off a lot of extra oil and helping it caramelize on the pizza along with the white onion. Very tasty, but not a good pizza for when you’re busy. But people liked it a lot, especially this guy.

Another favorite now is Kona Brewing Company makes a Puna Pie: a little garlic infused olive oil, mozzarella+smoked mozzarella+gorgonzola+chevre, and whole roasted garlic. I order it extra toasty for a chewier crust and more caramelization. I fart like an oil refinery afterward but it’s a small price to pay for pizza bliss.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:58:54am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Thing is, even after the crisis passes, people are going to be hesitant about stuffing themselves into crowded metal tubes with recirculated air…

Airlines sort of double-shot themselves in the foot. Used profits over the past couple of years to buy back stock (which helps increase its value) instead of building up any real equity reserve. And then watched the pandemic totally tank their stock price and business at the same time.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:02:51am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:04:46am

re: #124 BigPapa

Sounds like what I do when making omelets. I like to saute the veggies and/or meats to soften them a bit and get some caramelization before putting them into the dish. My brother makes veggie pizza at home and often does that as well to reduce the wateriness of ingredients like zucchini when he uses it.

Cooks at the local diner seem to vary somewhat. When I get green peppers in an omelet sometimes they are added raw, and sometimes have been sauted or fried a bit first. Some also seem to let the cheese melt into the omelet a bit first while others do not. Might have to do with how busy they are at the time I guess.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:09:55am

WTF?

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BigPapa  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:12:43am

re: #127 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Sounds like what I do when making omelets. I like to saute the veggies and/or meats to soften them a bit and get some caramelization before putting them into the dish. My brother makes veggie pizza at home and often does that as well to reduce the wateriness of ingredients like zucchini when he uses it.

Cooks at the local diner seem to vary somewhat. When I get green peppers in an omelet sometimes they are added raw, and sometimes have been sauted or fried a bit first. Some also seem to let the cheese melt into the omelet a bit first while others do not. Might have to do with how busy they are at the time I guess.

Yes, I’m on a new pizza phase, making dough. I say ‘new’ because my first real long term job was a family style Italian place where I had lots of pizza maker shifts. Now I roast veggies in the oven first in a huge batch, using them for all kinds of stuff during the week. Zuchs and eggplants do carry a lot of water, so do mushrooms. But a quick hot roast with a touch of olive oil and balsamic brushed on first helps them cook more on the pizza.

Omellettes are like risotto for restaurants: at the whimsy of the chef and not really good for fast/mass production in a working kitchen. I like my omellettes ‘pan quiche’ style with stuff cooked into the eggy goodness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:15:02am

re: #128 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Coronavirus in Sweden. No lockdown, no quarantines, just voluntary advice and a big dose of hope, letting the virus spread — “A big and risky experiment with the entire population that could have a catastrophic outcome

Swedes are used to being the concept of social isolation: they have a high percentage of one-person households. And can be generally trusted to behave rationally in a crisis.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:16:12am

breakfast was an cheesy omelette with green onions, ‘shrooms, wild garlic and parsley…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:18:43am

re: #129 BigPapa

“pan quiche” sounds like my omelet style at home. Heat pan, pour in whisked eggs, quickly add other ingredients (cheese, pepper, basil, etc.) then cover pan so that the top cooks without requiring me to flip it. Check on it a few times and once the top is done (or at least not runny) I fold it in half and slide it onto a plate. (And if I take the time to use a whisk and work the eggs a bit it gets pretty fluffy as well.)

And I’m pretty happy with the results for the most part.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:23:02am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Swedes are used to being the concept of social isolation: they have a high percentage of one-person households. And can be generally trusted to behave rationally in a crisis.

My WTF came from the photo of people sitting close in a restaurant.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:25:56am

This came up last night in a group playing Jackbox games on-line. In Norway “Texas” is a slang term for crazy.

bbc.com

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steve_davis  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:29:04am

re: #9 Dread Pirate

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oh, well that makes things better all around. a disease that doesn’t even offer short-term immunity. we’re screwed.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:32:12am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:32:27am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:34:33am

re: #137 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Trump obviously believes that all publicity is good publicity.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:35:58am

Is Asia Free Radio reliable or propaganda? Anyone know?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:40:42am

re: #139 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Is Asia Free Radio reliable or propaganda? Anyone know?

Wikipedia indicates that it is US government funded and run by an independent agency.
en.wikipedia.org

So I guess it would heavily depend on who the higher up/editorial control is in that agency.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:41:48am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:42:30am

re: #140 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Wikipedia indicates that it is US government funded and run by an independent agency.
en.wikipedia.org

So I guess it would heavily depend on who the higher up/editorial control is in that agency.

I asked because they are saying that China has over 3 million cases of C-19 with more than 45k deaths.

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Ming5000  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:45:40am

re: #134 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

This came up last night in a group playing Jackbox games on-line. In Norway “Texas” is a slang term for crazy.

bbc.com

Did you play with people you know remotely online? Was there group chat available?
This could be a good way to play with others while on lockdown.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:46:23am

re: #142 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I asked because they are saying that China has over 3 million cases of C-19 with more than 45k deaths.

Looks like a projection based on activity/urn orders by funeral homes.

rfa.org

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:49:12am

re: #143 Ming5000

Did you play with people you know remotely online? Was there group chat available?
This could be a good way to play with others while on lockdown.

A couple of different groups and base it in Discord. One is the group I play Arma 3 with on the weekends.

On Discord you can gather in a voice-channel and someone can run the game and stream it. Others join the stream to see the main screen and hear it, and can play using a phone or computer via an internet link and game code. (jackbox.tv)

Most of the jackbox games have 3-8 players and allow additional people some participation or voting access as “audience”.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:50:09am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:56:23am

Good thread. Suggest giving it a read.

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jeffreyw  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:58:39am

Good morning!

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steve_davis  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:59:38am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Time has put up a free news resource for children in four age groups. The articles explain important things in the news now, and offer resources for news literacy for children. They include teaching tools and quizzes for parents to use.

It will be available for the rest of the school year.

time.com

can they put up a section teaching how to write an objectively truthful headline? I mean, yes, they’d have to hire out for that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:59:49am

re: #146 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Last week, evangelical pastor Jerry Falwell Jr. ordered his students and staff back to Liberty University.

Now, at least 12 students are displaying coronavirus-like symptoms

He should be denied access to treatment.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:00:21am

re: #146 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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He may be a worse person than his father was.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:01:30am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He should be denied access to treatment.

He should be but if he gets sick and doesn’t get special treatment, he’ll accuse Northam of discriminating against him. He really is a vile asshole.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:03:27am

On the other hand, those students are already adults and really should have known better.

But again, what can we do in the face of such reckless derp?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:04:27am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On the other hand, those students are already adults and really should have known better.

But again, what can we do in the face of such reckless derp?

They’re attending Liberty U, so there is something already questionable about their decision-making and logic abilities.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:04:40am

re: #151 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He may be a worse person than his father was.

May?

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:05:26am

re: #1 teleskiguy

It’s not a blow to Obama-era regulation. It’s a blow to Americans who need clean air to breathe. We’re all harmed by Trump’s roll backs.

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steve_davis  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:05:42am

re: #120 Targetpractice

Sounds good to me. I’m a simple guy. Even just a pepproni and cheese pizza will suit me fine. But there’s gotta be at least one topping on a pizza, I can’t stand just plain cheese. To me, that’s like ordering plain vanilla ice cream without any toppings or syrup: What’s the point?

I had some kind of Urban Pie pizza out of the supermarket that was cheese, and it was the best damned cheese pizza I’ve ever eaten.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:08:01am
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sagehen  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:12:27am

re: #122 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So I have a dumb idea. As airplanes sit idle, is it possible to use the oxygen on these planes for something? Not people who need to be intubated, of course, but somehow leverage what’s available.

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Airplane oxygen isn’t coming from pre-loaded tanks, it’s not like scuba gear. The plane collects low-volume atmospheric air as it goes through it, compressing it to sea-level pressure that then gets pumped into the cabin. (IOW, it’s not “oxygen” per se, it’s air with the normal percentages of oxygen, carbon dioxide, nitrogen, etc)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:15:58am

re: #159 sagehen

Airplane oxygen isn’t coming from pre-loaded tanks, it’s not like scuba gear. The plane collects low-volume atmospheric air as it goes through it, compressing it to sea-level pressure that then gets pumped into the cabin. (IOW, it’s not “oxygen” per se, it’s air with the normal percentages of oxygen, carbon dioxide, nitrogen, etc)

Well, so much for my dumb idea. Thanks!

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CarolJ  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:16:48am

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

It will be months before things go back. We are going to be driving very little, and when we finally get back to some normal driving, it will be with the cars that’s already on the road. And when we finally get back to buying new cars again, it’s going to be the stuff that’s already on the lot. By the time this really takes effect, we will be driving electric cars to save our air and lungs.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:18:51am

Facebook still being a douche.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:20:10am

re: #161 CarolJ

It will be months before things go back. We are going to be driving very little, and when we finally get back to some normal driving, it will we with the stuff that’s already on the road. And when we finally get back to buying new stuff again, it’s going to be the stuff that’s already on the lot. By the time this really takes effect, we will be driving electric cars to save our air and lungs.

People will be travelling less, avoiding crowded public events, amusement parks, movie theaters and festivals.

People will be hesitant to crowd themselves into sealed metal tubes with recirculated air or to isolate themselves on cruise ships. No amount of bailout is going to prevent a massive decline in long-distance travel and tourism.

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CarolJ  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:20:11am

re: #154 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Or more likely a combination of parental pressure and brainwashing.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:22:20am

re: #159 sagehen

Airplane oxygen isn’t coming from pre-loaded tanks, it’s not like scuba gear. The plane collects low-volume atmospheric air as it goes through it, compressing it to sea-level pressure that then gets pumped into the cabin. (IOW, it’s not “oxygen” per se, it’s air with the normal percentages of oxygen, carbon dioxide, nitrogen, etc)

Sorry, your confusing the emergency O2 system with cabin air. Two different animals.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:23:24am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:24:57am

re: #161 CarolJ

It will be months before things go back. We are going to be driving very little, and when we finally get back to some normal driving, it will we with the stuff that’s already on the road. And when we finally get back to buying new stuff again, it’s going to be the stuff that’s already on the lot. By the time this really takes effect, we will be driving electric cars to save our air and lungs.

Some things will never go back, some things will be very slow. Millions of us are learning that much of the US shopping/running about culture was senseless bullshit that served little purpose. There are still social effects of the 1918 flu bouncing around, if the sociologists look for them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:27:04am

re: #167 Decatur Deb

Some things will never go back, some things will be very slow. Millions of us are learning that much of the US shopping/running about culture was senseless bullshit that served little purpose. There are still social effects of the 1916 flu bouncing around, if the sociologists look for them.

We are starting to see that a lot of the principles our economy and society are founded on are barbarous, inhumane and unsustainable.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:28:58am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We are starting to see that a lot of the principles our economy and society are founded on are barbarous, inhumane and unsustainable.

Now, now. Some of us enjoy the opera.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:29:15am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:33:00am

My ex-GF just adopted some cats.

Even sent me photos and videos of them. I am not a much of a cat person (I find them useful for pest control if you live in a rural area), and I really don’t care at all about what she is up to lately.

But I told her that she would make a good cat mom.

She took it as a compliment, although that is not how it was intended.

I meant that in another ten years she will most likely be a neurotic cat lady…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:35:24am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Corona Free?

Lesotho
Malawi
North Korea
South Sudan
Turkmenistan
Tajikistan
Western Sahara
Yemen

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:38:25am

re: #172 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Corona Free?

Lesotho
Malawi
North Korea
South Sudan
Turkmenistan
Tajikistan
Western Sahara
Yemen

like “still employed”, just a matter of time (and reporting)

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:40:37am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Swedes are used to being the concept of social isolation: they have a high percentage of one-person households. And can be generally trusted to behave rationally in a crisis.

Also you have “överträdelse av myndighets bud” which gives hefty fines and up to 6 months prison, and “spridande av gift eller smitta”, which can give up to six years in prison for a base offense, or life in prison for an aggravated offense.
But as the guy says, “frihet under ansvar”, which means that if the government doesn’t have to break out the big guns, it won’t. But it has big guns as shown above.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:41:23am

Swedish “midnight bud”? awesome

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:47:23am

re: #170 Patricia Kayden

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That is the great thing about dogs; you can tell them anything at all, and they are just happy to hear your voice.

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:47:50am

re: #175 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Swedish “midnight bud”? awesome

Chapter 17, Section 13 of the Swedish Penal Code:
A person who unlawfully disturbs, damages or otherwise utilises property that is subject to attachment, sequestration, lien, seizure or another, similar measure, or damages or removes apublicauthority’s notice or seal or otherwise unlawfully opens something closed by a public authority, or breaches another, similar prohibition issued by a public authority, is guilty of breaching an official order and is sentenced to a fine or imprisonment for at most one year.

So, “breaching an official order” appears to be the English name for it.

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:50:31am

re: #177 Teukka

And Chapter 13 Section 7
A person who occasions a public danger to human life or health by poisoning or infecting food, water or something else, by spreading poison or similar in some other way, or by transmitting or spreading a serious disease is guilty of spreading poison or infection and is sentenced to imprisonment for at most six years. If the offence is aggravated, the sentence is imprisonment for a fixed term of at least four and at most eighteen years, or for life. When assessing whether the offence is aggravated, particular consideration is given to whether it was committed with intent to harm the life or health of another person, or whether many people were exposed to danger.

Sauce:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:51:17am

re: #158 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Making it an unword will keep it from spreading; Trump wishes he thought of that!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:52:27am

re: #179 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Making it an unword will keep it from spreading; Trump wishes he thought of that!

calling it a “hoax” just didn’t work

promising us that it was “contained” and would just “go away” didn’t work

Must be the fault of all those “cosmopolitan” New Yorkers…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:55:46am

re: #155 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

May?

When I read this scrolling up, I assumed you were talking about Fred and Donald!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:57:52am

re: #181 NO SMOCKING GUN!

When I read this scrolling up, I assumed you were talking about Fred and Donald!

So many applications. So many shitty people.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:18:38am

Happy Birthday, Wendell!

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:22:47am

re: #95 unproven innocence

It’s always the math.

And yet right wingers are still claiming that this wont happen.

The 100,000-200,000 deaths are if everything goes perfectly in flattening the curve and getting resources where needed and doctors are able to stay health enough to treat those coming in the door.

Right now, they’re losing that battle on nearly every front. CA and WA may have started bending the curve, but it’s not anywhere else. In fact, there are states where no action is being taken except at the local level.

And the states like CA have pockets that are seeing the curve start to flatten, but they’ll have to keep the isolation measures in place for the foreseeable future because it’ll just come back as others travel in.

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:23:41am

re: #128 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

WTF?

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:25:44am

Macy’s, Kohl’s and Gap have all announced massive furloughs. About 300,000 furloughs between the companies. They indicate that they’ll provide health coverage through May.

After that? Who the hell knows.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:35:56am

re: #186 lawhawk

Macy’s, Kohl’s and Gap have all announced massive furloughs. About 300,000 furloughs between the companies. They indicate that they’ll provide health coverage through May.

After that? Who the hell knows.

“Sorry, sonny. You’re on your own.”

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:37:50am

re: #185 Teukka

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And in other news, IKEA has started prodcution of some PPE items for healthcare workers.

translate.google.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:39:47am

re: #188 Teukka

And in other news, IKEA has started prodcution of some PPE items for healthcare workers.

translate.google.com

I do not like the thought of having to assemble my own ventilator…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:39:49am

re: #188 Teukka

And in other news, IKEA has started prodcution of some PPE items for healthcare workers.

translate.google.com

Do you have to assemble the finished PPE yourself?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:40:23am

re: #190 Decatur Deb

two seconds!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:40:23am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

2 fukn’ seconds.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:40:42am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:40:53am

beat you again

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:41:03am
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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:41:08am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not like the thought of having to assemble my own ventilator…

PPE, not medical equipment. I would think it would come with the standard assembly instructions :D

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:41:56am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

beat you again

Had to find the damn apostrophe.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:42:12am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not like the thought of having to assemble my own ventilator…

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:42:36am

re: #190 Decatur Deb

Do you have to assemble the finished PPE yourself?

Unknown, but I would think that they’d have it assembled enough for it not to take too much space if there is a shortage of room on transports.

Also, this isn’t the first time IKEA has stepped in during the current crisis to help healthcare out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:43:20am

re: #199 Teukka

Unknown, but I would think that they’d have it assembled enough for it not to take too much space if there is a shortage of room on transports.

Also, this isn’t the first time IKEA has stepped in during the current crisis to help healthcare out.

and not the first time that IKEA has caused people to hyperventilate…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:44:21am

re: #198 Dr Lizardo

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Decades ago the Rocky Mountain Casket Company sold a DIY for hippies. It had a wine-closet feature for use until needed. I think they are still DBA under another name.

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:45:28am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and not the first time that IKEA has caused people to hyperventilate…

You do realize that for Swedish youth, properly assembling IKEA shit is a rite of passage right? :shows allen key scars:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:47:14am

In positive news, Germany has slowed it rate of doubling down to nearly a week, currently 67K cases (645 fatalities) over 33K (159) on March 24.

Other good news is that 13.5K people have recovered.

Let’s hope that they all stay immune.

Still means that we will likely see 100K cases and 1000 fatalities before Easter…

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:50:57am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On the other hand, those students are already adults and really should have known better.

But again, what can we do in the face of such reckless derp?

Having had college age students, and having been one, I will day this: college students aren’t adults in the sense of making decisions about the impact of not returning to school. College is more of a slow on ramp to adulthood.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:51:12am
- A doctor who gave Russian President Vladimir Putin a tour of Moscow’s main coronavirus hospital last week has himself been diagnosed with the virus, the Rossiya 24 state TV channel reported on Tuesday.

Putin visited the Kommunarka hospital last Tuesday where he chatted to the doctor, Denis Protsenko. Neither of them were wearing protective equipment during their conversation, TV footage from the visit showed.

The Kremlin said on Tuesday that Putin was being regularly tested for coronavirus and that “everything is okay,” the RIA news agency reported.

reuters.com

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:52:44am

re: #138 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Trump obviously believes that all publicity is good publicity.

“everyone’s saying my name all the time”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:55:31am

re: #204 Belafon

Having had college age students, and having been one, I will day this: college students aren’t adults in the sense of making decisions about the impact of not returning to school. College is more of a slow on ramp to adulthood.

legal adults (in most senses except being able to drink)

but yes, I did not even start to become an “adult” in the full sense until around my mid-to-ate 20’s

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:59:11am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

legal adults (in most senses except being able to drink)

but yes, I did not even start to become an “adult” in the full sense until around my mid-to-ate 20’s

lm 60+ and still waiting for adulthood to kick in

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coin operated  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:00:44am

re: #208 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

lm 60+ and still waiting for adulthood to kick in

You’re never too old to be immature

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:01:09am

re: #208 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

lm 60+ and still waiting for adulthood to kick in

Peak adulthood doesn’t arrive until your last kid leaves home. It only persists until the first grandkid. I drove from Alabama to Denver last Summer to launch an Estes rocket.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:02:44am

re: #195 Patricia Kayden

And if he doesn’t like the questions he cuts your mic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:03:59am

re: #195 Patricia Kayden

Thus far Trump’s response strategy to the pandemic consists of having a press conference around normal close of business where he allows reporters to ask questions, instead of answering questions he tells them how much he dislikes them personally.

I’m surprised it’s not working.

And he is too tensed up to even swing at a softball…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:04:44am

From the mayor of my town.

“There’s two options. If you don’t follow them, you’re dead. And that to me is a very strong message, a harsh message, but it’s the reality of what we’re facing. Too many people have brushed off this virus and not taken it seriously.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:04:57am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:04:59am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And he is too tensed up to even swing at a softball…

It’s a reflex response for him. Don’t like the question asked? Trash the person who asked it.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:05:48am

rando commenter:

In the first two weeks after 9/11, I saw people standing on freeway overpasses, waving American flags. I saw random, thoughtful acts of kindness and sharing. It made me proud to be an American. Then we went back to normal.

I never thought I’d look back on that time as the Good Old Days.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:07:20am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And he is too tensed up to even swing at a softball…

he’s flailing
he knows he’s blowing this big time and he’s likely toast

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:07:52am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:07:57am

re: #217 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

he’s flailing
he knows he’s blowing this big time and he’s likely toast

“How dare you imply that people are scared!”

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jeffreyw  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:08:57am

re: #91 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:09:01am

Interesting read. Thread.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:10:12am

Here is what Dear Leader is doing this morning to Strongly Lead the American people through this crisis:

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:11:04am

That phone call between Trump and Fauci and Montana Governor Bullock is crazy. Bullock lays it out as clear as day what is causing the severe shortage in PPE and tests for Trump who then says “we’ve tested more than any country in the world.” Totally misses the point.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:11:29am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:11:35am

re: #222 The Pie Overlord!

Here is what Dear Leader is doing this morning to Strongly Lead the American people through this crisis:

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Gotta say this for him, he snivels well.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:14:00am

Can someone tell me what this graph shows:

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:14:46am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:15:04am

re: #226 Belafon

Can someone tell me what this graph shows:

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You shouldn’t play chess with Death?

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:17:17am

re: #228 Decatur Deb

You shouldn’t play chess with Death?

Sorry. I’m at work and can’t see the graph, and I was just talking to a coworker about what Sweden was doing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:17:32am

re: #227 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

If Obama was still President, there’d be video of him helping to load supplies on to trucks.

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sagehen  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:18:15am

re: #206 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

“everyone’s saying my name all the time”

Londo Mollari Technomage Prophecy

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:18:17am

re: #148 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

It’s Tuesday, so I have to go… nowhere!

There’s a bird in there somewhere
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:18:20am

re: #224 Belafon

Sending solidarity to our frontline workers who are striking today. You’re keeping families across America supplied and fed during this pandemic. You deserve hazard pay, safety protocols and so much more

again, the underlying perversions in our system are starting to show their ugly heads.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:19:10am

re: #229 Belafon

Sorry. I’m at work and can’t see the graph, and I was just talking to a coworker about what Sweden was doing.

It shows (to a non-Swedish speaker) that their early death raw number is a good bit higher than nearby countries that used the more recommended approach. Early days.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:20:17am

At least, at the very least, trump and his band of criminal incompetents should GTF out of the way.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:20:48am

re: #209 coin operated

You’re never too old to be immature

You’re only as old as you act.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:23:40am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

If Obama was still President, there’d be video of him helping to load supplies on to trucks.

And wingnut whining that he was spiking the football or ignoring red states or that he had let Jade Helm into the country or…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:24:06am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

If Obama was still President, there’d be video of him helping to load supplies on to trucks.

…he’d be impeached by now because 3173 americans died

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:26:31am

re: #238 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

…he’d be impeached by now because 3173 americans died

There might not be as many dead, but it would certainly be known as the “Obama Virus”

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:27:52am

re: #238 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

…he’d be impeached by now because 3173 americans died

I think you mean he’d be impeached for 31 Americans dying.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:28:10am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There might not be as many dead, but it would certainly be known as the “Obama Virus”

well when you have a scapegoat here at home, there’s no need to go shopping for one in asia

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:28:29am

re: #226 Belafon

Can someone tell me what this graph shows:

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:29:09am

re: #240 Belafon

I think you mean he’d be impeached for 31 Americans dying.

oh certainly.
i was just using today’s this hour’s arcgis number

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John Hughes  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:29:21am

Ah, bugger, after 3 days of relative calm in France the deaths shot up again yesterday.

Italy seems to be keeping stable, Spain too. Germany is rising, but still way fewer deaths than the other big countries.

Of course this is all too short term to really see trends.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102288/coronavirus-deaths-development-europe/

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plansbandc  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:30:21am

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:32:05am

re: #245 plansbandc

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every one of these ‘timeline’ or ‘calendar’ ads is absolutely brutal

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:33:44am

while

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) told Hugh Hewitt that because the Senate was “tied down on the impeachment trial” during the early stages of the coronavirus outbreak, “it diverted the attention of the government, because everything every day was all about impeachment.”

An alternative view

Joshua Geltzer: “Impeachment didn’t distract Trump. It revealed how he would handle coronavirus.”

of course mcconnell is full of shit. the entire ‘rest of government’ went to work everyday doing it’s job, and briefed the president regularly - before, during and after

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plansbandc  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:34:02am

People who worship a shitty bully God love the shitty bully “president”.

Shocking, isn’t it?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:35:00am

Off to slip in a socially-distant walk before a line of red and yellow weather arrives.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:37:23am

re: #245 plansbandc

and on that moronic cease and desist letter,

they claim editing that makes it seem as if Trump said the virus itself was a hoax, when he actually said that the Democrats’ criticism of him was “their new hoax.”

that’s an awfully ‘novel’ pretzel twist

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NetworkKed  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:37:26am

re: #242 Teukka

I dunno, man.

That yellow line may not represent more deaths proportionally, but it’s not pointed in the direction you’d want it to be. I’d much rather be on the red line. That’s the high school math here.

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John Hughes  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:39:30am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

thank you. I am celebrating much as I celebrate most any other birthday. I might splurge and order a pizza later…

Order a pizza? What planet are you living on?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:40:12am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

If Obama was still President, there’d be video of him helping to load supplies on to trucks.

WHO GAVE THE STAND-DOWN ORDER ON MOAR SUPPLIES AND THE NSC PANDEMIC UNIT THAT GEORGE W BUSH ESTABLISHED?!?!?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:40:48am

re: #252 John Hughes

Order a pizza? What planet are you living on?

contact-free. Will leave money under the doormat and ask them to deposit pizza there

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plansbandc  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:43:09am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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John Hughes  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:52:10am

re: #254 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’ve just looked again and since last night two of the twenty or so Pizza Huts in my Departement are open today. There were none yesterday. Contactless, which means you pay online, they will not touch your money. Pizza Hut suggest you put a chair out for them to put the Pizza on.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:53:05am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wishing you a very Happy Birthday!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:53:08am

re: #256 John Hughes

I’ve just looked again and since last night two of the twenty or so Pizza Huts in my Departement are open today. There were none yesterday. Contactless, which means you pay online, they will not touch your money. Pizza Hut suggest you put a chair out for them to put the Pizza on.

Papa Johns has a contactless option. Haven’t tried it yet.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:53:32am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Today is my birthday (hooray!)

Up to now I can say that I have never spent a night in a hospital as a patient, that I have never broken a bone, that I am still free of any chronic pains or illness (save having to watch cholesterol and blood pressure).

So despite the ongoing lockup (Germany has been under restrictions since March 16) I guess I have some blessings to count.

Happy Birthday!

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:54:50am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Happy Birthday!

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retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 7:55:08am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Meanwhile, they sail softballs at Trump instead of asking him whether he lied to the American people about the severity of the Corona threat or was simply willfully ignorant despite having access to competent advisers.

You realize that WHEN we get a D pres in there, the window will have shifted to the point that the media will ask if EACH statement is a lie, and be very “nasty” in their questions? R x 10

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:00:16am

re: #258 Sir John Barron

Papa Johns has a contactless option. Haven’t tried it yet.

I haven’t had contact with Papa Johns since John Schnatter, the mouth piece for shitty pizza made the news about the horror of paying employees ACA, and how it would jack pizza prices by 12 or 14 cents and the world would collapse.
Fuck him and his pizza. He still makes money off them and he’s still the face of Papa Johns.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:02:05am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:02:39am

Not sure if this is wise or not: but Mickey Kaus (who blows goats) seems to think that the more that Joe Biden stays out of the spotlight, the better it will be for him, long-term:

“Heading into the 1968 Republican primary contest, Richard Nixon announced a six-month moratorium from politics. In 2014, former Nixon aide Pat Buchanan described it to me as an “absence makes the heart grow fonder” approach. Interestingly, it also had the effect of overexposing Nixon’s rival, George Romney. When a skeptical Buchanan questioned Nixon on the wisdom of this disappearing act, Nixon advised: “Let [the media] chew on [Romney] for a little while.”

Object of lust? It would be irresponsible NOT to speculate …

The media is certainly chewing all over Trump right now. But will that have any effect? Or is Mickey Kaus, noted goat-blower, right?

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:04:19am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:05:40am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

televisiontunes.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:05:58am

Trump lying that a lack of testing is no longer a problem, just as he lied weeks ago that it never was a problem.

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retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:06:21am

re: #129 BigPapa

Yes, I’m on a new pizza phase, making dough. I say ‘new’ because my first real long term job was a family style Italian place where I had lots of pizza maker shifts. Now I roast veggies in the oven first in a huge batch, using them for all kinds of stuff during the week. Zuchs and eggplants do carry a lot of water, so do mushrooms. But a quick hot roast with a touch of olive oil and balsamic brushed on first helps them cook more on the pizza.

Omellettes are like risotto for restaurants: at the whimsy of the chef and not really good for fast/mass production in a working kitchen. I like my omellettes ‘pan quiche’ style with stuff cooked into the eggy goodness.

You could cook for me any old time!!!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:07:08am

re: #263 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Diamond & Silk saying media is inflating death toll numbers of coronavirus to hurt Trump is vile-think of family’s mourning loved ones who died from virus who hear this BS. This isn’t new: Trump+Fox News have been making claim for a month that virus was a “hoax” to hurt Trump.

you girls want to be taken seriously (i know, i know) this should be an easy one.
just a bit of research, probably phone calls could do it.

call the coroners and morgues. get the ‘actual’ numbers.
then show ‘the media’ reporting and how those numbers are different

you’d be a hit for blowing this wide open.

but if you’re just going to wildly bloviate without any proof instead of bringing easily obtainable receipts, then just fuck y’all

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:07:38am

re: #264 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

The same Mickey Kaus who ran against Barbara Boxer and got slaughtered in the primary…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:08:16am

Damn, I get up in the morning and I see the two Bimbos Dum Dum and Stupid are trending on Twitter…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:13:28am

re: #266 Joe Bacon 🌹

televisiontunes.com

gonna need a bigger cake…

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:14:02am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:17:02am

re: #269 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

you girls want to be taken seriously (i know, i know) this should be an easy one.
just a bit of research, probably phone calls could do it.

call the coroners and morgues. get the ‘actual’ numbers.
then show ‘the media’ reporting and how those numbers are different

you’d be a hit for blowing this wide open.

but if you’re just going to wildly bloviate without any proof instead of bringing easily obtainable receipts, then just fuck y’all

They are “just asking questions.” Irresponsible not to!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:18:30am

re: #263 NO SMOCKING GUN!

All these dead crisis actors.
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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:19:21am

re: #242 Teukka

I stepped out to look at it, and the real thing is shows is the slope, and Sweden’s looks real bad

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:20:32am

Here’s an excellent piece by Greg Olear: Tinker, Tailor, Mobster, Trump.

He presents a pretty credible case that Trump is a Confidential Informant gone bad.

Nothing about Trump’s term as president suggests he’s turned his back on organized crime. He hasn’t “gone legit.” His Twitter antagonists comprise a “Who’s Who” of the FBI’s Russian mob experts: Robert Mueller, Andrew McCabe, Bruce Ohr, Lisa Page. He has attacked the credibility of those who know what he really is. That is what made Trump’s attacks on Mueller so ironic. He impugned the former FBI director as corrupt, while depending on his incorruptibility to not reveal his (alleged) CI status.

To reiterate: we cannot know for sure if Trump was a CI unless he admits to being one (maybe Yamiche Alcindor can goad him into admitting it?), or if the federal prosecutors in the know break protocol to expose him.

As it stands, prominent G-men have given us clues. When McCabe was fired, he began his statement thus: “I have been an FBI Special Agent for over 21 years. I spent half of that time investigating Russian Organized Crime as a street agent and Supervisor in New York City.” The subtext there is that McCabe knows who Trump is.

In the excerpt of his book Higher Loyalty sent to the press, James Comey compared Trump to Gravano. “The [loyalty] demand was like Sammy the Bull’s Cosa Nostra induction ceremony—with Trump in the role of the family boss asking me if I have what it takes to be a ‘made man.’ ” Of all the famous mafiosos, why did Comey choose Gravano, a relatively obscure figure, as the comp? He wants us to dig into Gravano.

(Gravano himself was asked about the Comey pull-quote by Jerry Capeci of Gangland News; he said, “The country doesn’t need a bookworm as president, it needs a mob boss. You don’t need a Harvard graduate to deal with these people…[Putin, Kim, Xi] are real gangsters. You need a fucking gangster to deal with these people.” This seems to indicate that Sammy the Bull thinks Trump is a “mob boss” and a “fucking gangster.” Takes one to know one?)

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:20:46am

And now, Lord of the Rings…with lightsabers!

The Lord of the Rings with Lightsabers

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:20:46am

This sports-radio host has been Donald Trump’s butt-buddy since he was 15.

Apparently, seeing his friends get carried out of hospitals and loaded into the back of refrigerated 18-wheelers was a bit too much

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:21:33am

re: #236 makeitstop

Couldn’t respond last night. Yes, the hurt will be widespread. Those with strong online audiences/endeavors will have an advantage.
In the cities the pubs and bars that supported bands, how many will make it? I know quite a few places here will go under. And when the worst is over and the future can be seen, places will have no money. Tips and the door. In Philly they are boarding up the bars. Stop smash and grab I guess.
People will want to get back to normal, but I think normal is a long way off. And on top of all that, our bass player was found deceased on February 5th. I didn’t speak of it. He went quietly, best anyone can hope for. So right now I don’t even have a band and who knows when we can begin a search. This is going to do so much damage to people and small biz. Immense damage. I’m hiding out, my wife has to work 3 days a week in a half staffed office in Harrisburg Pa, and I’m hoping they go to work from home before anything happens. The county she works in, Dauphin County, is in lock down, but she and her co workers have to drive into a locked down county to go to work.
Makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?
I hope your family is well, stay that way.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:29:58am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In positive news, Germany has slowed it rate of doubling down to nearly a week, currently 67K cases (645 fatalities) over 33K (159) on March 24.

Other good news is that 13.5K people have recovered.

Let’s hope that they all stay immune.

Still means that we will likely see 100K cases and 1000 fatalities before Easter…

Using latest figures, the mortality rate in Germany is now 1%, with over 75% of reported cases still active. Looking at closed cases only, the CFR is 4% (the same as China’s probably bogus numbers which has only 2.6% still active), but hopefully as more cases resolve, the rate will decline to my prediction of 1.5%.

Last night, a friend who lives in Chicago told me that another resident on her floor was taken to the hospital. Who knows how many may contract the disease by sharing an elevator with someone ill or perhaps even just using the elevator some time later.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:31:40am

re: #279 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

This sports-radio host has been Donald Trump’s butt-buddy since he was 15.

Apparently, seeing his friends get carried out of hospitals and loaded into the back of refrigerated 18-wheelers was a bit too much

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Francesa is one of the very few sports jocks who can get away with that. Most of NY sports radio is under a strict (though unspoken) ‘no politics’ rule. I listen to Michael Kay in the afternoon (opposite Francesa on WFAN), and there’s a liberal on that team named Peter Rosenberg. The most he can do is toss a little veiled shade at Trump, otherwise he can’t say what he’s really thinking.

I’m not a fan of Francesa, but good for him for speaking out. Maybe he’ll be able to get through to some of those Red Cap mooks who listen to his show.

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retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:32:17am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

beat you again

You are some hours ahead of DD, you know! Count your blessings!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:33:07am

re: #281 Hecuba’s daughter

Using latest figures, the mortality rate in Germany is now 1%, with over 75% of reported cases still active. Looking at closed cases only, the CFR is 4% (the same as China’s probably bogus numbers which has only 2.6% still active), but hopefully as more cases resolve, the rate will decline to my prediction of 1.5%.

Last night, a friend who lives in Chicago told me that another resident on her floor was taken to the hospital. Who knows how many may contract the disease by sharing an elevator with someone ill or perhaps even just using the elevator some time later.

So far, Germany’s health care system is not being overburdened. Some clinics have reached capacity but they are not turning people away in numbers.

When I was visiting my GF near Düsseldorf (second weekend in March just before restrictions were imposed) I walked up the four flights of stairs to her apartment rather than share an elevator with anyone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:34:03am

re: #283 retired cynic

You are some hours ahead of DD, you know! Count your blessings!

I am, and I am doing alright: any problems I have are mainly of my own making…

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Alephnaught  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:36:07am

Goats in Llandudno, Wales. Normally, they stay in the hills overlooking the town, but since the lockdown, they’ve venturing further inland…

Goats take over empty Welsh streets as residents observe coronavirus lockdown

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:36:44am

re: #279 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

This sports-radio host has been Donald Trump’s butt-buddy since he was 15.

Apparently, seeing his friends get carried out of hospitals and loaded into the back of refrigerated 18-wheelers was a bit too much

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Makes me wonder how the police unions feel about trump these days.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:37:18am

re: #279 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

This sports-radio host has been Donald Trump’s butt-buddy since he was 15.

Apparently, seeing his friends get carried out of hospitals and loaded into the back of refrigerated 18-wheelers was a bit too much

Doesn’t Francesca understand that the supposed dead are all crisis actors and that the corona number of dead are being exaggerated to hurt Trump and that Joe Biden left the national stockpile empty and that the Impeachment and that the hospitals are calm and business as usual according to Sarah Carter and Todd Starnes?
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:38:29am

re: #286 Alephnaught

They love the new growth on the box hedge.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:39:32am

re: #287 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Makes me wonder how the police unions feel about trump these days.

most any public servants who have to deal with this crisis and know what is happening out there while others sit at home and whine and re-post information that somebody’s cousin sent them…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:40:18am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When I was visiting my GF near Düsseldorf (second weekend in March just before restrictions were imposed) I walked up the four flights of stairs to her apartment rather than share an elevator with anyone.

I prefer stairs myself when available. Not because I’m afraid of germs, but because elevators send my claustrophobia through the roof. I only use them when I need to.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:42:26am

re: #287 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Makes me wonder how the police unions feel about trump these days.

Detroit Free Press:

“The virus’ spread through the department and through the region as a whole has officers patrolling on edge. Multiple exposures — including the pancake breakfast, those that are travel-related, contact with infected coworkers and during the course of policing — had sent 556 Detroit Police Department employees, including 468 sworn members, into quarantine as of Friday. That same day, officials said 39 officers had tested positive for COVID-19 and the department previously announced the deaths of two members.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:43:03am

re: #291 Eclectic Cyborg

I prefer stairs myself when available. Not because I’m afraid of germs, but because elevators send my claustrophobia through the roof. I only use them when I need to.

funny, I often have claustrophobic dreams of being stuck in tight places but have no problem with them when awake…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:43:33am

these people are effing ghouls

A former White House official told the Los Angeles Times that President Trump’s reelection campaign advisors “are terrified that the coronavirus outbreak, which so far has hit largely Democratic coastal cities hardest, will soon scythe across the rural areas that remain deeply loyal to Trump.”

“The advisors have warned Trump that the political consequences at the ballot box in November will be even worse if he is seen as too lax.”

Said the former official: “Pay attention. You’re going to lose the election.”

Tim Miller: “How broken and depraved do you have to be to go on background with a reporter and say campaign aides are worried about red state deaths. Whoever said this needs to step away from politics and seek help.”

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:44:16am

Pretty soon this will be happening every hour…

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:44:58am

re: #287 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Makes me wonder how the police unions feel about trump these days.

Talked to my bro-in-law; he’s murder police in Michigan. For years, he’s been a staunch Trump supporter. One-issue voter, around abortion, and defended Trump because he wanted far-right judges to repeal Roe v. Wade.

Now? Basically asking WTF, b/c Trump is withholding lifesaving supplies from Michigan, and he’s seeing his buddies getting sick and the people in his community that he’s charged with keeping safe, getting deathly ill.

Trump loses cops & firefighters, and his ass is toast.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:47:07am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:48:40am

re: #288 Sir John Barron

Doesn’t Francesca understand that the supposed dead are all crisis actors and that the corona number of dead are being exaggerated to hurt Trump and that Joe Biden left the national stockpile empty and that the Impeachment and that the hospitals are calm and business as usual according to Sarah Carter and Todd Starnes?
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Going to be hard to maintain that when the bodies start piling up in Red States

Democrats can be useful foils for only so long—the virus is already moving beyond blue-state hot spots into the rural red states that are the pillars of Trump’s support. As more people become infected in broader swaths of the country, Trump will face a fresh wave of calls for ventilators, masks, and money. It won’t be so easy to demonize a handful of discontented governors and mayors. Complaints will be coming from friends.

Indeed, appeals from Republican governors are already starting.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:48:55am

re: #280 Mescalero09

Couldn’t respond last night. Yes, the hurt will be widespread. Those with strong online audiences/endeavors will have an advantage.
In the cities the pubs and bars that supported bands, how many will make it? I know quite a few places here will go under. And when the worst is over and the future can be seen, places will have no money. Tips and the door. In Philly they are boarding up the bars. Stop smash and grab I guess.
People will want to get back to normal, but I think normal is a long way off. And on top of all that, our bass player was found deceased on February 5th. I didn’t speak of it. He went quietly, best anyone can hope for. So right now I don’t even have a band and who knows when we can begin a search. This is going to do so much damage to people and small biz. Immense damage. I’m hiding out, my wife has to work 3 days a week in a half staffed office in Harrisburg Pa, and I’m hoping they go to work from home before anything happens. The county she works in, Dauphin County, is in lock down, but she and her co workers have to drive into a locked down county to go to work.
Makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?
I hope your family is well, stay that way.

Oh, goddamn, Nines. So sorry to hear about your bass player.

I worry about a lot of my musician friends in the midst of this. A lot of them are my age, not in the best physical shape, thin on resources. Any one of them is susceptible (just like me, although my wife is riding herd on me to keep me in the best health I can get - I truly am lucky to have her). We already lost a guitar player who was in a band that I sub with from time to time, and I fear he’s not going to be the last. I hesitate to go on Facebook lately because I’m kind of scared of what I’ll find out.

As for live music around here - the scene will bounce back to some degree, but it’ll probably be the big dogs who will fully recover. A lot of small joints just aren’t going to make it. That sucks because I have a lot of friends who fall into that category as well.

Keep ya head down, friend. All we can do is get through this before we’ll know what the landscape is going to look like.

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Alephnaught  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:49:56am

More Llandudno goats in the following thread:

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:52:30am

re: #295 Mescalero09

Pretty soon this will be happening every hour…

Whoa

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:52:49am

re: #30 Belafon

This was all a plot by Big Duck to take over:

That is a canard

(*ducks*)

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:53:47am

re: #295 Mescalero09

Pretty soon this will be happening every hour…

I wonder why he was tested. Not that I object, just that most people getting tested have significant symptoms.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:54:03am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200329 edition —————————->
(We Rock!)

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:56:25am

re: #298 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)


Going to be hard to maintain that when the bodies start piling up in Red States

from today’s electoral-vote.com

FiveThirtyEight has a new analysis showing that while there are currently more COVID-19 cases in blue states (no surprise, since they’re more populous and they receive more visits from travelers), the disease is growing faster in red states (no surprise, given the disregard for social distancing). Specifically, they observe that 9 of the 10 states with the largest COVID-19 growth rates last week voted for Trump in 2016. The list is led by Texas, which saw a 297% increase in cases over that timeframe. It is also the case that red states are experiencing a higher COVID-19 fatality rate than blue states.

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unproven innocence  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:56:34am

re: #227 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Maddow is a master of understatement. I’ll say what she won’t—
This is the kind of useless national response that is going to result in the deaths of thousands and thousands and thousands millions of Americans.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:57:17am

Fucktard O’Queef is endangering the public. Everyone with a twitter account should report this tweet:

This is crap’: Right-wingers beat down James O’Keefe over video downplaying virus as ‘just the flu’

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:57:26am

re: #303 Sir John Barron

I wonder why he was tested.

Really don’t like to play that card but, he’s somebody with a generous network insurance policy and he’s somebody.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:58:07am

re: #308 Mescalero09

Really don’t like to play that card but, he’s somebody with a generous network insurance policy and he’s somebody.

yeah and considering he like many in the media may be more likely to be exposed.

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:58:51am

re: #72 Dread Pirate

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:59:10am

re: #309 Sir John Barron

yeah and considering he like many in the media may be more likely to be exposed.

And beyond that, I’m all in favor of more testing. Those who test positive and who haven’t already self-quarantined can do so.

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Alephnaught  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:59:13am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Er, the link doesn’t work?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:59:37am

re: #310 gocart mozart

Go Granny Go!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:59:52am

You need to expand the images to get the full effect

24 March 2020

31 March 2020

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:02:42am

re: #311 Sir John Barron

And beyond that, I’m all in favor of more testing. Those who test positive and who haven’t already self-quarantined can do so.

putting aside false negatives, those who test negative must, must, must realize they’re not ‘done’.

they’re in the same boat with the rest of us not-yet-infecteds
and they have to keep doing all-the-things

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:03:13am

re: #303 Sir John Barron

I wonder why he was tested. Not that I object, just that most people getting tested have significant symptoms.

He was symptomatic. And he had been with people who subsequently tested positive.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:03:53am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Fucktard O’Queef is endangering the public. Everyone with a twitter account should report this tweet:

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‘This is crap’: Right-wingers beat down James O’Keefe over video downplaying virus as ‘just the flu’

Is @jack going to lift a finger to stop O’Keefe?

Nope.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:05:33am

re: #317 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is @jack going to lift a finger to stop O’Keefe?

Nope.

If Jack becomes ill, he may take action. Didn’t he already remove content that was promoting lies about COVID 19?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:06:59am

Death counts in northern Europe are jumping up.

Netherlands reports 175 more deaths, their highest daily count yet.

And Germany, which started out with a very low CFR, now has a case fatality rate just above 1%.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:07:05am

re: #312 Alephnaught

Er, the link doesn’t work?

Sorry. Refresh. Fixed

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:07:28am

interesting about the distribution of cases in florida

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:07:56am

As much as I think Twitter can be a really toxic platform, and because of that I’ve withdrawn from it for months at a time, I’ll say that when I started to tune back into it as this crisis emerged, I found it much more aware of the virus than other platforms seemed to be, say people I know on Facebook. Because of the relative alarmism, if you will, on Twitter, I think I’ve had a much better sense of where this was all going a month ago than some other people in my orbit.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:08:13am

re: #303 Sir John Barron

I wonder why he was tested.

If his setup with CNN is anything like Katy Tur’s with NBC (she tweeted about broadcasting from home yesterday), then he probably had techs coming into his house to set him up to work from home. Best guess here.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:09:40am

re: #322 Sir John Barron

As much as I think Twitter can be a really toxic platform, and because of that I’ve withdrawn from it for months at a time, I’ll say that when I started to tune back into it as this crisis emerged, I found it much more aware of the virus than other platforms seemed to be, say people I know on Facebook. Because of the relative alarmism, if you will, on Twitter, I think I’ve had a much better sense of where this was all going a month ago than some other people in my orbit.

That being said, and maybe because of it, I was starting to wonder, if not worry, how come my agency hadn’t sent us home to quarantine earlier than it did, just two weeks ago, March 16.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:09:47am

re: #314 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

To be absolutely clear, the spread is everywhere in the nation, and it’s filling in nationwide based on travel patterns.

It’s following the lines of Interstate highways all around the country, plus air hubs.

Big cities are obviously seeing more cases, but they’re filling in everywhere else.

That’s why a consistent national response is needed, and yet Trump continues to play this off and ignore the advice for a national level of standards for quarantine/shutdowns to stop the spread.

Instead, we’ll see SFO level off, cut back on their spread, only to have the effect overwhelmed by travel from elsewhere because we stopped the quarantine/self isolation far too soon. Trump’s actions are making all of this worse.

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:10:13am

re: #242 Teukka

*sighs*

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:11:01am

re: #318 Hecuba’s daughter

If Jack becomes ill, he may take action. Didn’t he already remove content that was promoting lies about COVID 19?

Just like every other chickenshit Libertarian, @jack will act only when he gets sick with the virus…

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:11:39am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Fucktard O’Queef is endangering the public. Everyone with a twitter account should report this tweet:

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This is crap’: Right-wingers beat down James O’Keefe over video downplaying virus as ‘just the flu’

Idiot is endangering people!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:12:00am

re: #319 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Death counts in northern Europe are jumping up.

Netherlands reports 175 more deaths, their highest daily count yet.

And Germany, which started out with a very low CFR, now has a case fatality rate just above 1%.

the good news is that Germany’s rate of doubling has slowed to nearly a week. This still means that there will be 100K cases and over 1,000 fatalities before Easter, but the healthcare system is still not overwhelmed.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:12:21am

Question about COVID-19 data: Where can I find the raw data for the US cases/deaths/recoveries?

I’ve got something I want to try to visualize.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:13:24am

OK tried to see id Instacart is delivering in Los Angeles and I see that no stores have any delivery slots open.

Also see Instacart workers are staging a wildcat strike according to the local DSA webpage.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:13:44am

re: #330 Sufficient unto the day…

coronavirus.jhu.edu

The Johns Hopkins Map is a good place to start, but you might have to manually tally numbers for each state as the map offers only pretty basic data sorting options.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:14:14am

re: #326 Teukka

*sighs*

There needs to be a bit of caution when adusting for population in an exponential function. People were doing that with US numbers to justify not taking action because at a third of a billion, it flattened our curve pretty hard. But all that did was hide the fact that our cases were growing really fast, and by the time it showed up on the graph, we were going to be equivalent to a car that has just driven off a cliff.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:15:14am

So what does Mangoface decide to do? DECLARE INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK!

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:15:45am

re: #322 Sir John Barron

Twitter is a very good site to get quality information.
And then you can engage with all manner of creeps.
Choose to block and roll. Find a creep? Eff em. They seek timelines. They seek engagement. Deny them.
To me Facebook is a place I stay away from. People have 1000 “friends” and they know each one, sure you do, you dipstick. And I washed every last Trump shithead from my feed.
If I wanted to argue with someone, it’s a very short walk.
But I learned my lesson slowly. I was suspended and lost two accounts. And I had no recourse or power to change it. A few here got banned and aren’t sure how.
@Jack is a stone fuckhead, but he’s not as bad as Darth Data who runs Facebook.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:15:55am

re: #334 The Pie Overlord!

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:16:59am

re: #333 Belafon

There needs to be a bit of caution when adusting for population in an exponential function. People were doing that with US numbers to justify not taking action because at a third of a billion, it flattened our curve pretty hard. But all that did was hide the fact that our cases were growing really fast, and by the time it showed up on the graph, we were going to be equivalent to a car that has just driven off a cliff.

this exactly

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:17:05am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

Phase 1: Ignore
Phase 2: Call it a “hoax”
Phase 3: Tell us it will “go away”
Phase 4: INFRASTRUCTURE!!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:17:18am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

A bizarre movie from Saul Bass.

Phase IV Trailer (1974) Saul Bass Director Feature Film - HD Classic Trailers

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Sufficient unto the day...  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:17:22am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

It’s the Endgame.

Actually, give me a minute to get my Fucking Psycho-to-English translator working…

OK, so, this gigantic stimulus thing with the $1200 checks is actually Phase 3 of stimulus…just for coronavirus. So Infrastructure Week is supposed to be Phase 4…I guess?

Of course, all these building projects ARE great ideas…IF ANYONE COULD LEAVE THEIR FUCKING HOUSE NOW.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:18:09am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

Phase 4: Vote for Trump and the GOP or you don’t get the vaccine.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:18:20am

re: #334 The Pie Overlord!

So what does Mangoface decide to do? DECLARE INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK!

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because the difference between .25% and zero makes or breaks it, right?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:20:09am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

he’s agreeing with pelosi and trying to co-opt it: (electoral-vote.com)

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is putting out trial balloons for relief bill #4, making very clear what she wants to see included in that (apparently inevitable) legislation.

Overall, the Speaker’s vision is that if COVID-19 bill v3.0 was about responding to the immediate emergency, v4.0 will be about recovery. She wants to see investments in the energy grid, improving the water supply, increasing broadband Internet access, and strengthening America’s healthcare system. She (and other Democrats) have also spoken of “fixing” problems with the v3.0 bill, and possibly getting rid of some of the provisions from the Republicans’ 2017 tax bill.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:20:33am

re: #335 Mescalero09

Twitter is a very good site to get quality information.
And then you can engage with all manner of creeps.
Choose to block and roll. Find a creep? Eff em. They seek timelines. They seek engagement. Deny them.
To me Facebook is a place I stay away from. People have 1000 “friends” and they know each one, sure you do, you dipstick. And I washed every last Trump shithead from my feed.
If I wanted to argue with someone, it’s a very short walk.
But I learned my lesson slowly. I was suspended and lost two accounts. And I had no recourse or power to change it. A few here got banned and aren’t sure how.
@Jack is a stone fuckhead, but he’s not as bad as Darth Data who runs Facebook.

Yeah, and for me my Facebook feed is already very filtered, I don’t follow my more loony friends. So it’s not an exact comparison. But following my Twitter feed even of people and accounts I like can be wearying. But it’s more helpful now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:21:00am

re: #334 The Pie Overlord!

So what does Mangoface decide to do? DECLARE INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK!

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We haven’t had one of those in awhile. It’s always SQUIRREL for Trump — he cannot concentrate on anything that doesn’t praise him or accede to him. Every day he is trying for a new distraction — and there are none around right now that can overtake the pandemic.

It’s always possible that Pompeo will persuade him that this is the time to attack Iran, but I’m not sure that Trump, who is not a fan of military ventures at all, will fall for this criminal proposal.

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Kilroy was here  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:21:05am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

A B-movie

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:22:09am

re: #333 Belafon

There needs to be a bit of caution when adusting for population in an exponential function. People were doing that with US numbers to justify not taking action because at a third of a billion, it flattened our curve pretty hard. But all that did was hide the fact that our cases were growing really fast, and by the time it showed up on the graph, we were going to be equivalent to a car that has just driven off a cliff.

However, even not normalizing vs. population can be dangerously misleading. Comparing two countries to each other requires cases vs. population to be normalized. And if you want to track whether spread is flattening, you do % or per mille change on top of that curve, so a % increase makes it point up, and a decrease makes it point down.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:22:45am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Fucktard O’Queef is endangering the public. Everyone with a twitter account should report this tweet:

[Embedded content]

This is crap’: Right-wingers beat down James O’Keefe over video downplaying virus as ‘just the flu’

But oooh, lawd, the crazies responding to him positively are, well, crazy.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:24:14am

Dodging a bullet…

Back on the 14th I was booked to sub in with some friends at a club in NYC. I was literally heading out the door when I got a text from the singer saying she started sneezing and got all mucus-y and was cancelling the gig (she’s fine, it was just allergies, thankfully).

I just got a text from her. It turns out that two members of the band slotted before us to play that night have tested positive for COVID-19.

Holy shit.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:25:31am

NJ continues to be hard hit by covid19. 4 rabbis from Lakewood NJ (a Hasidic enclave on the Jersey shore) have died, and there’s a significant number of cases there too.

Trump’s droning on about his ratings, how the media is being bad to him, and how he’s doing better than anyone else.

But who the fuck is he going to blame for this:

He’s the CinC. He’s the one claiming that he’s rebuilt the military and given them all the ammo that ran out under Obama.

Obama didn’t have a carrier task force sidelined by a pandemic because they couldn’t get the resources to the ship to test and care for the servicemembers on board.

Trump’s failing in every way imaginable, and for a Navy captain of an aircraft carrier to openly request assistance is unheard of. It’s a failure of the entire chain of command, and Trump on down own this disaster.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:27:03am

Italy’s daily new case count is 4,053, almost identical to yesterday, but the good news is that it is way down from the peak. Perhaps their own lockdown is showing effect.

But their additional death toll is 837, more than yesterday and third highest.

Deaths lag case counts by several days.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:28:37am

lolololol

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:30:53am

re: #343 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Okay, so it wasn’t something Trump just pulled out of his ass. Thanks.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:33:11am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:33:25am

re: #350 lawhawk

Both my grandfathers served in the Navy. This breaks my fucking heart.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:34:30am

re: #353 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay, so it wasn’t something Trump just pulled out of his ass. Thanks.

Well there’s always room for that explanation, too.

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:35:06am

Sign of the times, just saw this ad for the kind of plexi shield popping up in stores everywhere to give cashiers some protection.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:35:46am

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

Both my grandfathers served in the Navy. This breaks my fucking heart.

As someone who spent a little time on a carrier, there’s no way to spread out 4k+ people to keep them isolated.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:36:14am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:38:39am

From the number-crunchers at 538

On average, states that voted for Trump saw a 119 percent increase in cases over this 3-day period, as compared to an 88 percent increase in states that voted for Hillary Clinton (plus the District of Columbia). Weighted by state populations, the difference is slightly larger: 141 percent in states Trump won and 88 percent in states Clinton won.

For now, states Clinton won do have considerably more total reported cases. As of Thursday, Clinton states had 4.29 positive tests per 10,000 people, as compared to 1.13 per 10,000 people in Trump states. A lot of that difference is attributable to New York; without New York, Clinton states have 1.89 cases per 10,000 people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:40:31am

re: #349 makeitstop

Dodging a bullet…

We played our last gig on March 13th, just before they closed down all restaurants, clubs and bars.

It was a private party, a season-opener gala for a hotel/restaurant.

I am still living off the cash we made from it…

and I spoke to the owner recently, nobody from the party has reported and signs or symptoms.

At the time, most of the virus was concentrated in North Rhine-Westphalia, there were only around 25 known cases in the Rhineland-Palatinate.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:40:35am

re: #349 makeitstop

Dodging a bullet…

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this shit is real

anyone can get it
anyone can recover from it
anyone can die from it

all our discussions are about likelihood

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:42:04am

re: #358 Belafon

As someone who spent a little time on a carrier, there’s no way to spread out 4k+ people to keep them isolated.

And that is exactly what the CO of that carrier is quoted as saying in the story.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:42:21am

re: #352 Dr. Matt

lolololol

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we oriented it that way on purpose, so i could see it

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:43:42am

re: #353 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay, so it wasn’t something Trump just pulled out of his ass. Thanks.

i think this is where he got it from:

President Trump hasn’t spoken to Speaker Nancy Pelosi in more than five months but he tweeted he did watch her on MSNBC this morning.

Said Trump: “I watched a portion of low rated (very) Morning Psycho (Joe) this Morning in order to see what Nancy Pelosi had to say, & what moves she was planning to further hurt our Country. Actually, other than her usual complaining that I’m a terrible person, she wasn’t bad. Still praying!”

During the interview, Pelosi said she now just talks to Trump through the TV — and she was right.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:44:12am

re: #356 Sir John Barron

Well there’s always room for that explanation, too.

porque no los dos?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:47:15am

re: #364 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

we oriented it that way on purpose, so i could see it

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This is why Drew Carey beat out Trump to be the new host of The Price Is Right.

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Alephnaught  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:52:02am

This appears to be becoming a meme over in Scotland. Initially, it was just shots of well-known LGBT venues that havew shut on the left pic, but now:

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retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:55:32am

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

Both my grandfathers served in the Navy. This breaks my fucking heart.

My husband did. This is awful!

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:57:23am

re: #360 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Blue states are far more aggressive at testing. They’re far more diligent at trying to stop the spread.

Red states like Texas and Florida are enabling mass casualties with their cavalier attitude. Or is it depraved indifference. Or dumbfuckery? Or all of the above - with a few criminal acts thrown in for good measure.

I’ll go with the latter.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:58:11am

re: #364 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

It’s increasingly clear he can’t read, or see, or both.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:59:15am

All the men who like to think of themselves as tough guys - Trump, Bolsonaro, Dana White, etc. - downplay Covid-19 to prove how manly they are.

Now this:

Belarus president plays hockey, says global coronavirus measures are result of ‘psychosis’

Belarus president Alexander Lukashenko is holding firm in his belief that the global response by other countries to the coronavirus pandemic is a product of “psychosis.”

As a result, Belarus, a landlocked country in Eastern Europe bordered by Russia, is one of the world’s only places where professional sports have not been postponed or canceled.

[…]

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retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:59:58am

OT: WaPo, He served nearly 44 years in solitary confinement. He was innocent of the crime. About Albert Woodfox, one of the Angola 3. It is a VERY uplifting column, and the comments following it recognize that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:00:34am

re: #372 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’ll take “Learning things the hard way” for $1000, Alex.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:02:36am

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

Both my grandfathers served in the Navy. This breaks my fucking heart.

I’m former Navy. I’m surprised we are not hearing this happen with more boats.

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BigPapa  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:03:23am

re: #371 lawhawk

It’s increasingly clear he can’t read, or see, or both.

We all know his vanity knows no bounds and he would never wear glasses.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:05:10am

re: #370 lawhawk

Red states like Texas and Florida are enabling mass casualties with their cavalier attitude. Or is it depraved indifference. Or dumbfuckery? Or all of the above - with a few criminal acts thrown in for good measure.

President said it was a hoax and would go away and they wanted to prove him right.

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:05:16am

re: #349 makeitstop

Yes you did.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:05:27am

re: #376 BigPapa

We all know his vanity knows no bounds and he would never wear glasses.

Has the dumb fuck never considered contacts?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:06:09am

re: #379 Eclectic Cyborg

Has the dumb fuck never considered contacts?

not all conditions are correctable with contacts and he would probably find them too difficult to put in…

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Kilroy was here  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:06:31am

I know we won’t hear about it because of security concerns but I’m hoping covid-19 doesn’t get loose in the SSBN *ballistic missile submarine, fleet.

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:07:17am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:08:10am

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not all conditions are correctable with contacts and he would probably find them too difficult to put in…

Oh, I know. I actually have one of those conditions so I’m a glasses wearing lifer.

I was riffing off Trumps stupidity. :P

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retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:09:40am

re: #379 Eclectic Cyborg

Has the dumb fuck never considered contacts?

Lasik. Cataract surgery with lens replacement. Done.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:09:51am

re: #382 gocart mozart

Damn, that’s a brutally ignorant tweet from Martin.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:10:29am

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

not all conditions are correctable with contacts and he would probably find them too difficult to put in…

I used to wear contacts, starting at 16 up until my mid-40s. Now at 50, frankly, they’re uncomfortable to wear for any extended period of time.

So I just switched back to glasses. Trump, being in his 70s, might well find them way too uncomfortable to wear, which in fairness, I can understand. He might also be too squeamish to wear them - my ex-wife was like that, and she’d run away screaming when I put them in or took them out, LOL. She could never understand how anyone could do it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:10:34am

re: #352 Dr. Matt

lolololol

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Anyone have the video of him playing around with that? Like an ape that was given a new toy to figure out. What a dipshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:10:39am

re: #383 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, I know. I actually have one of those conditions so I’m a glasses wearing lifer.

I was riffing off Trumps stupidity. :P

that is a given

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:11:57am

re: #381 Kilroy was here

I know we won’t hear about it because of security concerns but I’m hoping covid-19 doesn’t get loose in the SSBN *ballistic missile submarine, fleet.

I was reading that the attack subs were already seeing delays due to need to quarantine for 14-21 days before any change between the crews. Because if a case gets on a sub, it’s almost guaranteed that everyone gets it. They hot-bunk on subs and are in incredibly close quarters.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:13:25am

re: #387 GlutenFreeJesus

Anyone have the video of him playing around with that? Like an ape that was given a new toy to figure out. What a dipshit.

Zoolander (9/10) Movie CLIP - Computer Experts (2001) HD

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:13:40am

Looks like those responsible for putting Trump’s message out aren’t too fond of the message.

Whoever that person is should go public and let him have it. But that won’t happen.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:13:57am

re: #386 Dr Lizardo

I have low strength prescription glasses for distance, but can see fine up to around 10 feet without them.

I get the squeamishness. I can handle blood and all manner of bodily fluids and medical issues, but touching the eyes is a big no-no for me. I have to look away when the mrs. plays with her contacts.

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:16:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:16:52am

re: #391 makeitstop

A source at a conservative firm doing Trump/RNC work tells me the Message of the Day is “Impeachment kept Trump from focusing on the virus.”

It will play well with their base but basically make them the laughingstock of nearly everyone else.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:17:02am

re: #393 gocart mozart

Sodom, Getmorrah covid19.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:17:46am

re: #395 lawhawk

Sodom, Getmorrah covid19.

Three days of Love followed by Eternal Peace

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Kilroy was here  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:19:01am

re: #393 gocart mozart

1st annual Darwin Award Jamboree and sing along

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:20:10am

re: #391 makeitstop

Looks like those responsible for putting Trump’s message out aren’t too fond of the message.

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Whoever that person is should go public and let him have it. But that won’t happen.

—-

A source at a conservative firm doing Trump/RNC work tells me the Message of the Day is “Impeachment kept Trump from focusing on the virus.”

this is true only if he actually watched tv all the goddamned day and didnt hold meetings, attend briefings, etc. ie do his fucking day job.

oh. nevermind.

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:21:16am

re: #393 gocart mozart

Brown Acid For Everyone!

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:22:39am

re: #397 Kilroy was here

1st annual Darwin Award Jamboree and sing along

1st Last annual Darwin Award Jamboree and sing along

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:23:35am

I assume they will hire these guys for security:

disciplechristianmc.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:23:49am

re: #393 gocart mozart

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Welcome to Dirt Nap 0’Rama for Jesus!

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:23:59am

I am checking in for a few minutes. This morning I went the the supermarket and got almost everything on my list. Seedless Rye Bread is gone. I will be in a little later.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:24:00am
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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:24:49am

re: #394 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It will play well with their base but basically make them the laughingstock of nearly everyone else.

Especially when these facts are so readily available…

And toss ‘I knew it was a pandemic before anybody’ into the mix and the entire talking point breaks into a million tiny little pieces.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:26:30am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:26:32am

Burning Man 2020 is still on.

Burning Man 2020 will take place August 30 - September 7 in Northern Nevada’s Black Rock Desert. Participants join in the effort to co-create Black Rock City, a temporary metropolis dedicated to art and community.

This year’s theme is “The Multiverse.” No word yet on whether senior-sacrificing Republicans like Dan Patrick and Glenn Beck will be on hand as very special guests of honor.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:27:21am

Karma, do your work.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:28:37am

re: #406 Charles Johnson

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every gun store will become a hot spot (to own the libs of course)

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Kilroy was here  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:30:03am

re: #393 gocart mozart

“This event will take your breath away… “

Forever

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:31:06am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

two seconds!

You guys quit that!

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:31:13am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

2 fukn’ seconds.

You guys quit that!

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:32:33am

re: #409 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

every gun store will become a hot spot (to own the libs of course)

You’re required to be coughed on by one employee and one other customer before you can leave with your weapon.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:37:25am

re: #406 Charles Johnson

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There’s always an excuse for these assholes to hoard.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:37:33am

re: #408 makeitstop

Even covid19 is worried about polonium poisoning by Putin. It wont go near him. /half

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:38:00am

re: #413 Belafon

Turn your head and cough.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:38:02am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:39:13am

re: #408 makeitstop

Karma, do your work.

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Yes, please. I want Putin to get COVID. I want his tough guy ruined which will be a great thing for the world.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:40:30am

re: #417 DodgerFan1988

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Agh.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:43:13am

re: #407 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Burning Man 2020 is still on.

This year’s theme is “The Multiverse.” No word yet on whether senior-sacrificing Republicans like Dan Patrick and Glenn Beck will be on hand as very special guests of honor.

I mean, I understand not canceling at this point in time. That’s a fair ways down the road, and if social distancing and the like is working, we should known by mid to late April. We could very well still be in the thick of in August, but it’s not out of the question that activities such as this could resume by then.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:43:42am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

Plan 9 from Outer Space made more sense

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:44:14am

Louisiana’s death count is increasing rapidly. The Marti gras thing combined with the governor’s sluggishness to act strongly is really going to come down hard on them now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:45:27am

re: #422 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Louisiana’s death count is increasing rapidly. The Marti gras thing combined with the governor’s sluggishness to act strongly is really going to come down hard on them now.

The general health of the population and distribution of medical resources in that state does not help matters either.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:46:37am

re: #218 The Pie Overlord!

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No one could have predicted.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:49:03am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:49:09am

re: #417 DodgerFan1988

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That’s precisely what I expected from Republicans. They want the weak, sick, infirm and elderly to die.

Hubert Humphrey said that the great moral test of a society is how we treat those in the dawn of light—the children, those in the twilight of light—the elderly and those who through no fault of their own are in the shadows of light—the disabled.

Every fucking Republican wearing a cross on their sleeve since Pruneface has flunked that test.

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:51:30am

re: #407 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Burning Man 2020 is still on.

This year’s theme is “The Multiverse.” No word yet on whether senior-sacrificing Republicans like Dan Patrick and Glenn Beck will be on hand as very special guests of honor.

“In keeping with current events and the reality of the situation we are naming this years theme “Where Do We Put The Bodies And We Need Ice”.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:52:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:53:41am

re: #420 Mike Lamb

I mean, I understand not canceling at this point in time. That’s a fair ways down the road, and if social distancing and the like is working, we should known by mid to late April. We could very well still be in the thick of in August, but it’s not out of the question that activities such as this could resume by then.

I just got a request to do a tour of Bacharach in August, which I find optimistic but it is only the second booking I have had in weeks (I got one for December 30th)

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:53:48am

If you don’t want to click on that link, Anne Laurie has a good chunk of it at balloon-juice.com.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:54:02am

My daughter’s kids wanted to eat Skittles for breakfast so that’s what she gave them.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:54:56am

re: #391 makeitstop

Looks like those responsible for putting Trump’s message out aren’t too fond of the message.

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Whoever that person is should go public and let him have it. But that won’t happen.

Kinda sucks when your friends and family are dying and you’re all like…yeah, whatever, gotta make a buck.

What is “PISSED” going to accomplish?

Nothing. SSDD for all the other assholes who trump shit on, stabbed in the back and left. WhatFuckingEver.

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:55:07am

re: #431 The Pie Overlord!

My daughter’s kids wanted to eat Skittles for breakfast so that’s what she gave them.

Smart Mom.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:55:37am

re: #425 Dr. Matt

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Multitasking isn’t eating McDonalds and watching Sean Hannity portray you as history’s greatest scapegoat, it’s paying attention to events at home and abroad. This man is the greatest human disaster in American history.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:57:41am
In 2015, Trilogy Evo—a Pennsylvania subsidiary of the Dutch appliance and technology giant Royal Philips N.V.—took a $13.8 million contract with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to develop an inexpensive, portable, and easy-to-use ventilator to boost the Strategic National Stockpile in the event of a national pandemic. ProPublica, in one of its latest essential investigations into the Trump coronavirus debacle, has discovered that there is not a single one in the stockpile despite the fact that federal tax dollars developed the $3,280 piece of equipment. And despite the fact that HHS ordered 10,000 of them last September.
They do have this $3,820 ventilator available, but instead of selling it, they’re selling two higher-priced versions of it commercially all over the world. That includes to middleman sellers like a small medical supply company in New York, who told ProPublica: “We sell to whoever calls. […] We have hundreds of orders to fill. I think America didn’t take this seriously at first, and now everyone’s frantic.” It has 50 Trilogy Evo ventilators it bought in early March, when it offered them for $12,495. This week they’re charging $17,154.

dailykos.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:58:55am

morona-in-charge ain’t gonna like this:

fwiw: Beshear’s daily pressers have always been at 5 pm; DC Dumbo started the 5pm start after Beshear had been doing it for a while

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:59:28am

re: #434 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Multitasking isn’t eating McDonalds and watching Sean Hannity portray you as history’s greatest scapegoat, it’s paying attention to events at home and abroad. This man is the greatest human disaster in American history.

He really seemed to have bet his last stakes on that chloroquine thing working out…that would have showed his ineffable genius and made him the savior of millions (of people) and trillions (of dollars in stock market assets) and sealed his reputation - now he is really out of viable options

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:59:29am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

Phase 1: Failed infrastructure plan.
Phase 2: Failed infrastructure plan.
Phase 3: Failed infrastructure plan.
Phase 4: Soon to fail infrastructure plan.

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Omar Comin’  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:00:35am

For Greg Koch and Wildwood guitar fans. Looky heah!

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:00:54am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:05:18am

re: #408 makeitstop

Karma, do your work.

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I’m giving up on karma. Trump is still there.

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:06:04am

re: #393 gocart mozart

Galtamont.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:08:31am

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

morona-in-charge ain’t gonna like this:

fwiw: Beshear’s daily pressers have always been at 5 pm; DC Dumbo started the 5pm start after Beshear had been doing it for a while

The staff and Task Force talked Trump into changing the daily briefing to late afternoon/evening because the markets kept tanking whenever he made public statements mid-day

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lizardofid  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:09:59am

re: #442 stpaulbear

Galtamont.

That’s pretty damn good.

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:11:48am

re: #444 lizardofid

That’s pretty damn good.

I came up with it a long time ago on a Balloon Juice thread about some libertarian gathering in the desert. I can’t remember what it was. I don’t think it was burning man.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:12:50am

re: #445 stpaulbear

I came up with it a long time ago on a Balloon Juice thread about some libertarian gathering in the desert. I can’t remember what it was.

Is that the one that totally washed out because of poor planning?

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aatharuv  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:13:07am

re: #420 Mike Lamb

I mean, I understand not canceling at this point in time. That’s a fair ways down the road, and if social distancing and the like is working, we should known by mid to late April. We could very well still be in the thick of in August, but it’s not out of the question that activities such as this could resume by then.

If Burning Man is still happening in August, everyone in the SF Bay Area who can should hunker down and self isolate. Enough of San Francisco leaves for Burning Man that it risks being another reinfection locus….

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:13:50am

re: #440 The Pie Overlord!

PBS. Very Intelligent Television. Also squeezing in a little of amazon prime. The PBS shows I like and want to watch but they are not on the air at the moment.

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:14:25am

re: #446 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I honestly don’t remember.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:15:51am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:16:55am

Zoinks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:17:10am

re: #449 stpaulbear

I honestly don’t remember.

The Fyre Festival?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:18:04am

re: #450 Charles Johnson

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A medical procedure or a group gathering. Gee I wonder which one should have priority. Religious fundamentalism is such a dangerously stupid mindset.

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Alephnaught  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:19:20am

re: #407 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Burning Man 2020 is still on.

This year’s theme is “The Multiverse.” No word yet on whether senior-sacrificing Republicans like Dan Patrick and Glenn Beck will be on hand as very special guests of honor.

Hmmm, surely this “Multiverse” can be carried out online? Also, gives plebs like us the chance to take part.

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:19:29am

re: #452 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Fyre Festival?

Ha. Nope. I was wasting time on YouTube over the weekend and watched some videos about how Fyre Festival was such a shitshow. I needed distraction…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:21:59am

re: #451 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

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Zoinks.

I mean Nixon was doing detente in the middle of Watergate and Clinton had his eye on terrorism during his impeachment. Efuckingnough with the excuses for Trump. He arrogantly thought he could be President despite never having held elected office or an executive position that didn’t come about because of his name. And he got impeached for the same thing he’s repeatedly done his entire time in office and that’s put the interests of Donald Trump above the American people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:23:22am

re: #456 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I mean Nixon was doing detente in the middle of Watergate and Clinton had his eye on terrorism during his impeachment.

That is just a talking point for them to put out as a distraction.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:24:46am

re: #457 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is just a talking point for them to put out as a distraction.

Not everything is a distraction with these assholes. They’re not clever. They’re the gang who can’t govern straight.

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:24:54am

Given that Trump can’t even single-task, distractions shouldn’t be an issue for him.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:25:26am

re: #457 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is just a talking point for them to put out as a distraction.

Every fucking thing they do is a distraction. Trump says or does something ridiculous and everyone talks about it. It’s all distraction.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:26:13am

re: #458 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Not everything is a distraction with these assholes. They’re not clever. They’re the gang who can’t govern straight.

I disagree. Trump is a marketeer. He is nothing else. It’s all distraction.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:27:13am

re: #461 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That is giving him too much credit. DT is a con-man. Plain and simple.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:28:48am

re: #461 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I disagree. Trump is a marketeer. He is nothing else. It’s all distraction.

I don’t think he’s that clever. If this is a distraction, it’s profoundly dumb strategy. Bringing up the impeachment is a reminder of why he was impeached. I’m definitely for ads though showing the Republican party’s who me response to Trump’s impeachable offenses though.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:29:03am

re: #462 PhillyPretzel

That is giving him too much credit. DT is a con-man. Plain and simple.

Agreed. But he’s honed the con over the years. That’s his life, it’s what he does. It’s not credit, it’s innate to him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:29:17am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:31:07am

re: #447 aatharuv

If Burning Man is still happening in August, everyone in the SF Bay Area who can should hunker down and self isolate. Enough of San Francisco leaves for Burning Man that it risks being another reinfection locus….

these people are going to get infected and pass it.

‘flattening the curve’ doesnt mean “it’s over”
it means globally, nationally, or regionally, we’ve averted a worse disaster

get used to it:
- washing, social distancing, limiting contact, travel etc….
0 these things are going to be with us for a good long while - way more than a couple of ‘inconvenient’ months or even a year.
(at least those of us who want to minimize the chances of getting or passing it.)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:31:11am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

It’s like plan 9

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:31:42am

re: #450 Charles Johnson

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i wonder if matt goes to church a lot / regularly

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:37:26am

re: #458 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Not everything is a distraction with these assholes. They’re not clever. They’re the gang who can’t govern pee straight.

Much more appropriate!

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:39:40am

re: #463 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I don’t think he’s that clever. If this is a distraction, it’s profoundly dumb strategy. Bringing up the impeachment is a reminder of why he was impeached. I’m definitely for ads though showing the Republican party’s who me response to Trump’s impeachable offenses though.

I would love for Biden’s team to put together an ad with Democrats statements during impeachment that Trump will try to get favors in a crisis with Trump actually asking for praise during this crisis.

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:49:45am

re: #468 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i wonder if matt goes to church a lot / regularly / at all

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:03:41pm

re: #334 The Pie Overlord!

So what does Mangoface decide to do? DECLARE INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK!

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An Autobahn, we should build an Autobahn.

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sagehen  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:05:13pm

re: #446 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Is that the one that totally washed out because of poor planning?

If you’re thinking of the Fyre Festival, that was very much NOT libertarian.

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Alephnaught  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:11:47pm

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

Phase 4 Stereo?

Stanley Black and his Orchestra - Malagueña (Ernesto Lecuona)

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austin_blue  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:14:43pm

re: #381 Kilroy was here

I know we won’t hear about it because of security concerns but I’m hoping covid-19 doesn’t get loose in the SSBN *ballistic missile submarine, fleet.

All sub crews are quarantined together for at least 15-days prior to deployment.


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Joyce Manor - ‘House Warning Party’ (Lyric Video) "House Warning Party" by @Joyce Manor from the album 'Songs From Northern Torrance,' available May 29thPre-order at joycemanor.ffm.to Filmed by Donovan Vim Crony / DEBUNK PUNK Season 2 / Episode 1 & at Zephyr Veg. Cafe (2) 6/19/09Edited by ...
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Twenty One Pilots - Level of Concern (Official Video) twenty one pilots - Level of Concern (Official Video)official video for "Level of Concern" - available now on Fueled By Ramen. top.lnk.to Exclusive Crew Nation hoodie available now - smarturl.itA portion of proceeds from this song + the TØP ...
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Lotteries: A Rant From a Poor PersonLotteries. A rant from a poor person (me). So I have a MegaMillions ticket. The odds of winning the jackpot are 1 in 302.6 million against. Right now, the jackpot is $336,000,000. There are endless think pieces in everything from ...
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Clean Bandit - Rockabye Ft Anne-Marie #AtHome #WithMe So fun to play in our garden and link up with Anne-Marie via computer airways for International Nurses Day! Watch the full concert: YouTube Click here to subscribe: bit.ly Follow us:Website: cleanbandit.co.ukFacebook: facebook.com Twitter: twitter.com Instagram: instagram.comSoundcloud: SoundCloudSpotify: atlre.co.uk ...
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The Unlikely Candidates - Novocaine “Novocaine” by The Unlikely Candidates available now! LISTEN HERE: red.lnk.to Catch us on tour! songkick.com Follow us here:instagram.comfacebook.com@tucband?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthortheunlikelycandidates.com Directed by Mattias Russo-LarssonProduced by Lewis Atallah #UnlikelyCandidates #Novocaine #ArtistOnTheRise #OfficialVideo #Pizza #MusicVideo #AlternativeRock #Rock #TUC #LeftSideBrain #VeronicaMars #Alternative #Unlikely #Candidates ...
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Larkin Poe Keep Diggin’ (Official Video) 'Keep Diggin'' is the third song off Larkin Poe's 2020 album 'Self Made Man’, out June 12th. Pre-save the album on Spotify or pre-order on iTunes, Amazon, and the official store NOW & get the first 3 songs "Holy ...
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200524A number of folks have asked about the pumping out.We do this so we don't have to slog around in a foot of water. This is the pump and with garden hose attached. We run the hose out to the ...
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Joe Needs a Disability PolicyI'd like to remind people that even though world and country are turning to shit, there are 20 to 25% of America, 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 people, who are disabled. I'm disabled, and so are several others ...
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The Altons - When You Go (That’s When You’ll Know) Available digitally now - daptone.ffm.toAvailable on 45 on April 10th. Pre-order now: shopdaptonerecords.com Directed by Jessica Magaña (Red Heart Media)Though Bryan Ponce and Adriana Flores share the stage with Joey Q as part of the East LA souldies outfit ...
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200517Now when it rains, it looks almost like a real pond. On Saturday we pumped out 8-10” of rainwater. This is gonna be regular thing now. Fortunately it's way easier to get the water out than to keep it out ...
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