Seth Meyers From Home: Trump Brags About His Ratings During Coronavirus Pandemic [VIDEO]

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You know, I’m starting to prefer these late night comedians without an audience. I don’t really need to hear other people laughing to tell whether something’s funny or not.

Seth takes a closer look at the president bragging about his TV ratings during the coronavirus pandemic, suggesting states were lying about how many ventilators they need and blaming health care workers for the lack of protective masks.

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1
Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:29:33am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:30:49am

Since it was likely CL’d

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:31:01am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:31:40am

I like it better without the audience too. I wish Seth would realize that his Trump impressions aren’t very good. I think my favorite is Bob Cesca’s.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:32:33am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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Alex Jones and the popular culture of conspiracy theories and theorists that blew up after 9/11 and Obama’s election I think is one of the most disturbing elements of our century. We have access to more information than we did in the past but we aren’t processing it. There’s a lot of bullshit out there.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:34:02am

Follow this thread….

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:34:08am

from downstairs:

i wonder if matt goes to church a lot / regularly

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:35:15am

re: #5 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Alex Jones and the popular culture of conspiracy theories and theorists that blew up after 9/11 and Obama’s election I think is one of the most disturbing elements of our century. We have access to more information than we did in the past but we aren’t processing it. There’s a lot of bullshit out there.

Went home to NJ a few months back and ran into an old acquaintance who spouted just about every conspiracy theory in the Alex Jones portfolio and perhaps some others in the span of about an hour. I just listened. It was like the proverbial fire hose of derp.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:35:34am

and

#447 aatharuv

If Burning Man is still happening in August, everyone in the SF Bay Area who can should hunker down and self isolate. Enough of San Francisco leaves for Burning Man that it risks being another reinfection locus….

these people are going to get infected and pass it.

‘flattening the curve’ doesnt mean “it’s over”
it means globally, nationally, or regionally, we’ve averted a worse disaster

get used to it:
- washing, social distancing, limiting contact, travel etc….
- these things are going to be with us for a good long while
- way more than a couple of ‘inconvenient’ months or even a year.
(at least for those of us who want to minimize the chances of getting or passing it.)

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mmmirele  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:37:15am

I wish I had a N95 mask and goggles right now. I know a couple of churches that DESPERATELY need a picket this Sunday.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:38:07am

re: #6 Mescalero09

Follow this thread….

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Interesting.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:39:51am

re: #7 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

from downstairs:

i wonder if matt goes to church a lot / regularly

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Well his hero Pruneface Reagan didn’t go to church on Sundays at all when he was President…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:40:15am

re: #11 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Interesting.

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Had no idea about this. Sheesh

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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:43:00am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:44:56am

re: #8 Sir John Barron

Went home to NJ a few months back and ran into an old acquaintance who spouted just about every conspiracy theory in the Alex Jones portfolio and perhaps some others in the span of about an hour. I just listened. It was like the proverbial fire hose of derp.

Yeah I’ve met some too. I’m old enough to remember the conspiracy theorist as a cartoon character. Dale Grible from King of the Hill comes to mind.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:45:20am

re: #14 Dread Pirate

Updated US economic forecast from Goldman Sachs:

Q1: -9% (from -6%)
Q2: -34% (from -24%)

2020: -6.2% (from -3.7%)

Mid year unemployment:
15% (from 9%)]

Had Trump been able to display one iota of leadership, people would have rallied around him and even economic news like this would not be enough to sink him.

But he lacks the knowledge, experience and personality to lead in a crisis, only to bullshit his way out of a tight corner. But this corner is too tight.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:47:06am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:47:18am

re: #15 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I’ve met some too. I’m old enough to remember the conspiracy theorist as a cartoon character. Dale Grible from King of the Hill comes to mind.

I remember when Chris Elliot was Mr. Conspiracy Man on Late Night…

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:48:35am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:49:40am

re: #15 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I’ve met some too. I’m old enough to remember the conspiracy theorist as a cartoon character. Dale Grible from King of the Hill comes to mind.

I think of the Lone Gunmen from the X-Files.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:50:18am

re: #18 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember when Chris Elliot was Mr. Conspiracy Man on Late Night…

Yeah it was a character archetype. Really fuck Alex Jones.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:50:57am

What the fuck does Ben do for a living? He gets paid thousands of dollars just for being a racist bigot. What contribution to society.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:51:23am

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

I think of the Lone Gunmen from the X-Files.

Good one too. It was something we thought silly and almost farcical. Our President believes in conspiracy theories.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:51:24am

See where Art Bell took us?

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:51:35am

re: #14 Dread Pirate

Trump’s handling of covid19 has vaporized the economy. It’s a cataclysm. It’s a catastrophic failure. His awful handling means that the job losses and the economic damage will be lasting and pervasive, and wont come back quickly anytime soon.

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A Three Hour Tour  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:52:27am

re: #18 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember when Chris Elliot was Mr. Conspiracy Man on Late Night…

Are you part of Connie Chung’s Secret Committee of Twelve?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:52:52am
Politico: “The Trump administration is telling hospitals they can split ventilators between two patients and is escalating calls to scrap elective surgeries, as federal officials try to limit care rationing in facilities lacking the critical breathing machines. New federal guidelines on so-called ventilator splitting — an idea that’s been used extremely rarely in emergency situations — emphasizes it should ‘only be considered as an absolute last resort’ for hospitals swamped by coronavirus patients.”

im out for a while
maybe take a nap
this shit makes me fume

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:53:44am

re: #26 A Three Hour Tour

Are you part of Connie Chung’s Secret Committee of Twelve?

no, but I just paid my annual Rosicrucian and Illuminati dues…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:54:29am

re: #22 DodgerFan1988

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What the fuck does Ben do for a living? He gets paid thousands of dollars just for being a racist bigot. What contribution to society.

It’s important to them to be as awful as possible right now, because they are auditioning to become the top troll on talk radio when Rush kicks it.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:54:40am

re: #22 DodgerFan1988

What the fuck does Ben do for a living? He gets paid thousands of dollars just for being a racist bigot. What contribution to society.

Excuse number Eleventy hundred for Trump bungling of Coronavirus:

It’s the unions’ fault.

It’s the workers’ fault.

It’s the medical workers stealing masks fault.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:54:55am

re: #22 DodgerFan1988

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What the fuck does Ben do for a living? He gets paid thousands of dollars just for being a racist bigot. What contribution to society.

That’s why I despise him too. He does nothing but look down on people and he gets rich. He’s a fucking charlatan dick.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:55:04am

re: #22 DodgerFan1988

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What the fuck does Ben do for a living? He gets paid thousands of dollars just for being a racist bigot. What contribution to society.

BTW what is Mrs. “Dr. Shapiro” doing right now? She’s supposed to be a doctor, (if she even actually exists) so wouldn’t she be providing Ben with some actual science facts?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:55:19am

Fuck Ben Shapiro and his ilk.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:56:28am

re: #32 The Pie Overlord!

BTW what is Mrs. “Dr. Shapiro” doing right now? She’s supposed to be a doctor, (if she even actually exists) so wouldn’t she be providing Ben with some actual science facts?

Ben would never listen to a woman. It’s beneath him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:57:00am

re: #26 A Three Hour Tour

Are you part of Connie Chung’s Secret Committee of Twelve?

I belong to two secret societies but I can’t name them since they are, well, secret. I openly belong to two other frequently named evil conspiracies, though, the Democratic Party and the global scientific community.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:59:20am

re: #27 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Trump leading from the rear again. States are looking at doing it because of the lack of equipment, and are doing it out of necessity, because the alternative is people die.

They’re also looking at taking other types of life support gear and converting it to ventilator capable tools.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:59:33am

re: #22 DodgerFan1988

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What the fuck does Ben do for a living? He gets paid thousands of dollars just for being a racist bigot. What contribution to society.

He sucks Koch for a living…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:59:51am

France reports a big jump in new cases. Also, a big jump in additional deaths.

Belgium new case reports are substantially lower than their highest days. But they also report a large jump in additional deaths.

There is no doubt that this is going to be a long, hard road.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:00:30pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:03:08pm

Idiot who will not be named sends me a message that he is excited because he bought his THIRD AR-15.

I just throw up my hands…

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makeitstop  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:05:11pm

This brings me a small measure of joy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:05:58pm

re: #22 DodgerFan1988

Ben Shapiro thinks striking workers are the same as price gougers and should be fired, saying they’re striking “not because of bad worker pay, but because [they] just want more money”

They are striking for safety equipment and hazard pay.

They are doing a much different job than the one they signed on for.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:06:37pm

Fundies are notoriously handsy and hugsy. Years ago, I got hornswoggled into visiting a fundy church in Denton. At one point, the visitors were asked to raise their hands so they could be welcomed. I did so without thinking. Before I realized it, a woman I had never met before grabbed me, enfolded me in a bear hug, and squeezed so hard I could feel her nipples. I was astonished to say the least, though it was not the worst thing that could have happened. I also had a new clue to how these cults maintain loyalty and interest, especially since they are working with a basically repressed population.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:06:46pm

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are striking for safety equipment and hazard pay.

They are doing a much different job than the one they signed on for.

In a much less safe environment than they expected.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:07:34pm

re: #41 makeitstop

The bill always come due.

And I totally expect Trump to claim poverty, force majeure, and otherwise insist he doesn’t have to pay his bills because that’s what he’s always done throughout history.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:07:38pm
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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:08:32pm

Cordon sanitaire.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:09:01pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon 🌹

Idiot who will not be named sends me a message that he is excited because he bought his THIRD AR-15.

I just throw up my hands…

One for each hand and a spare. When the welfare checks have stopped and you’re facing down the zombie hordes, there is no such thing as too much firepower.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:09:11pm

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I wonder if GOPers somehow believe that abortion clinics have hundreds, or even thousands, of people milling around in the same enclosed space, talking, grabbing each other, sometimes dancing in the aisles, for hours on end?.

Of course
theonion.com

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:09:25pm
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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:09:33pm

re: #47 jaunte

Cordon sanitaire.

Who’s supplying the blessed pot?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:09:58pm

re: #50 jaunte

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Sounds like the same asshole who runs the megachurch 3 blocks from me…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:10:07pm

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

One for each hand and a spare. When the welfare checks have stopped and you’re facing down the zombie hordes, there is no such thing as too much firepower.

I am beginning to fear more than ever that we will see a lot of this recently-purchased ordinance being used before long…

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:10:23pm

re: #50 jaunte

Which is why all of those choir people got sick.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:10:40pm

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are striking for safety equipment and hazard pay.

They are doing a much different job than the one they signed on for.

Don’t expect a shitheel like Shapiro to care.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:11:09pm

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

One for each hand and a spare. When the welfare checks have stopped and you’re facing down the zombie hordes, there is no such thing as too much firepower.

If he’s that insecure about his masculinity he should sell the AR-15s and get a pee pee pump…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:11:11pm

re: #50 jaunte

Pastor Jonathan Shuttlesworth told his followers that those who support his ministry will have “supernatural protection from every sickness and disease there is,” including the coronavirus

Then let them sign a waiver before attending foregoing any further treatment should they get infected…

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:12:26pm

re: #50 jaunte

No refunds if you get sick. It’s your fault for being faithless.

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Alephnaught  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:14:11pm

From previous thread:

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Phase 4? What the fuck is Phase 4?

Phase 4 Stereo? [An early version of Quad Stereo.]

Stanley Black and his Orchestra - Malagueña (Ernesto Lecuona)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:14:18pm

re: #50 jaunte

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JFC

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:14:34pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:15:03pm

re: #41 makeitstop

This is how bad things are for Donald´Trump’s hotels/clubs. The 16 now closed produced $250M in annual revenue, which is about $680K per day. Now shut down for weeks to come.

and even the ones still open are probably not doing a lot of business…

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:19:05pm

re: #41 makeitstop

This brings me a small measure of joy.

Trump at the end of April: “For the good of the country, I have decided to take the presidential salary.”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:19:16pm
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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:20:31pm

“Critical Infrastructure Sectors” Includes:

Religious services conducted in churches, congregations, and houses of worship.

Governor Virus.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:20:38pm

re: #30 Sir John Barron

Excuse number Eleventy hundred for Trump bungling of Coronavirus:

It’s the unions’ fault.

It’s the workers’ fault.

It’s the medical workers stealing masks fault.

if there was a way to point to my handle “i dont take responsibility at all”

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:21:01pm

re: #59 Alephnaught

The Quadrophonic Revolution! (I was into it in the 70’s when I had a subscription to Stereo Review)

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:21:12pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:21:18pm

re: #63 Belafon

Trump at the end of April: “For the good of the country, I have decided to take the presidential salary.”

Although the planned corporate relief fund has oversight built in, I’m sure it contains enough loopholes to make sure that some money reaches Trump assets via shell companies and various stock/interest swaps.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:21:44pm

HAND SANITIZER!

I popped into the Safeway just in case they had some, and there were a dozen big bottles on the bottom shelf. So there were 11 when I walked away.

I also bought half a pumpkin pie to celebrate (running out of cake). And moar chocolate for stock (it keeps for a very long time).

Now I know what it feels like to hunt the mammoth.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:22:45pm

re: #65 jaunte

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“Critical Infrastructure Sectors” Includes:

Governor Virus.

I get it. Soros is paying these moles to kill off all the Trump voters.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:22:51pm

re: #65 jaunte

“Critical Infrastructure Sectors” Includes:

Governor Virus.

I doubt Rockwall churches are going to reopen. They closed before the city started putting plans in place.

The best thing about this rule is that it’s going to really start spreading to rural areas.

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:24:55pm

Sermon on the Mount time for Texas:

“And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites
are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and
in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men.
Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:25:21pm

re: #61 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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didnt see a lot of ‘throwing’
just careful placement into the bin with an assist from the front paws

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:26:58pm

re: #74 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

didnt see a lot of ‘throwing’
just careful placement into the bin with an assist from the front paws

What’s that rant from Charles about pedants? :)

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:27:16pm

re: #70 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

HAND SANITIZER!

I popped into the Safeway just in case they had some, and there were a dozen big bottles on the bottom shelf. So there were 11 when I walked away.

I also bought half a pumpkin pie to celebrate (running out of cake). And moar chocolate for stock (it keeps for a very long time).

Now I know what it feels like to hunt the mammoth.

I need to go out for a doctor’s appointment this afternoon (not medical, and should be very easy to social-distance) so I’m going to stop at Walgreen’s on the way home to see if I can score any hard-to-find items. It’s going to be the first time I’ve been off of my property since Thursday afternoon.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:27:21pm

re: #70 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

HAND SANITIZER!

I popped into the Safeway just in case they had some, and there were a dozen big bottles on the bottom shelf. So there were 11 when I walked away.

I also bought half a pumpkin pie to celebrate (running out of cake). And moar chocolate for stock (it keeps for a very long time).

Now I know what it feels like to hunt the mammoth.

😁😂🤣😭 that made me LMAO.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:28:03pm

re: #67 stpaulbear

The Quadrophonic Revolution! (I was into it in the 70’s when I had a subscription to Stereo Review)

from stony brook ny 1975 or so we got 99.1 WPLR connecticut radio, “rock yours in quad”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:28:23pm

re: #68 lawhawk

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just another flailing hail mary

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ericblair  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:28:27pm

…aaaand two weeks from now, the Russian audience who were told that Great Russia was taking pity on poor failing America are going to wonder why the fuck that idiot Putin gave all our supplies to Italy and the United States when Russia’s hospitals had run out. Putin doesn’t think ahead very much.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:28:59pm

re: #74 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

didnt see a lot of ‘throwing’
just careful placement into the bin with an assist from the front paws

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If an elephant picked me up and deposited me in a barrel, I would consider myself “thrown.”

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:30:37pm

Why is the concept of not bunching up so hard for legislators?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:31:13pm

re: #80 ericblair

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…aaaand two weeks from now, the Russian audience who were told that Great Russia was taking pity on poor failing America are going to wonder why the fuck that idiot Putin gave all our supplies to Italy and the United States when Russia’s hospitals had run out. Putin doesn’t think ahead very much.

we could be making the shit if anyone had any brains
the stories of incompetence, idiocy and mismanagement are everywhere

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:31:45pm

re: #82 jaunte

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Why is the concept of not bunching up so hard for legislators?

$

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:32:55pm
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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:33:32pm

re: #83 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

People like Patrick Ruffini think that it’s the capitalists and pharmaceuticals who will save the country from the pandemic, but it’s clear that competent govt is how to get through this, because it can marshal the resources in a way that capitalists never would - it makes sure that the goods go where they’re needed.

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Teddy's Person  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:35:04pm

re: #63 Belafon

Trump at the end of April: “For the good of the country, I have decided to take the presidential salary.”

I suspect he’s been taking he paycheck all along. I doubt there is a mechanism in the bureaucracy of the fed government to simply re-route the money. He claims he’s donating it to various departments, but again, how would that work?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:35:35pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:35:41pm

re: #86 lawhawk

Exactly. And if we had a competent gov’t I believe this virus would not have spread this far and this fast.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:35:41pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Were I a sheriff and worried about civil disorder, he would be one of the first people I would round up if things went bad.

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danarchy  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:36:07pm

re: #74 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

didnt see a lot of ‘throwing’
just careful placement into the bin with an assist from the front paws

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Pretty sure elephant feet are just called feet not paws.

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:36:28pm

I wonder what Trump will do to celebrate his special day tomorrow?

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:38:25pm

re: #87 Teddy’s Person

I suspect he’s been taking he paycheck all along. I doubt there is a mechanism in the bureaucracy of the fed government to simply re-route the money. He claims he’s donating it to various departments, but again, how would that work?

It’s kayfabe. He makes a big show with an oversized check but the money is never cashed and he just keeps it.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:39:20pm

re: #86 lawhawk

People like Patrick Ruffini think that it’s the capitalists and pharmaceuticals who will save the country from the pandemic, but it’s clear that competent govt is how to get through this, because it can marshal the resources in a way that capitalists never would - it makes sure that the goods go where they’re needed.

and would / should also ensure that most of the profit motive is removed from the equation

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sagehen  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:39:43pm

re: #82 jaunte

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Why is the concept of not bunching up so hard for legislators?

My niece was supposed to get married in May. Rabbi, catered sit-down dinner for 100, band, video team, etc.

Instead… sister-in-law got internet ordained, and they did a “service” at the house with 5 guests a month ago. Maybe we’ll do a big party for their one-year anniversary. (also cancelled nephew’s med school graduation party; his entire class is starting their internships early, and their diplomas will be mailed to them.)

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Kilroy was here  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:39:45pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:40:53pm

re: #87 Teddy’s Person

I suspect he’s been taking he paycheck all along. I doubt there is a mechanism in the bureaucracy of the fed government to simply re-route the money. He claims he’s donating it to various departments, but again, how would that work?

he always makes it an event to ‘sign the check over’ to this department or that

im not sure that’s possible - depositing money into a department’s bank account?

all revenue is supposed to go into the treasury and be allocated by congress of course

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:41:31pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

How helpful that they included the moron label right there in their tweet.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:41:37pm

re: #91 danarchy

Pretty sure elephant feet are just called feet not paws.

and someone called me a pedant upthread ;-)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:42:11pm

re: #80 ericblair

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:42:47pm
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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:42:48pm

re: #99 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

and someone called me a pedant upthread ;-)

Yes, but thowing away something doesn’t necessarily mean tossing it from a distance.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:42:50pm

re: #98 klys (maker of Silmarils)

How helpful that they included the moron label right there in their tweet.

so that’s what that means…

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:43:04pm

re: #96 Kilroy was here

Thanks Joe. I needed that. :)

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:44:01pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Only 20 of the virologists are useful?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:44:04pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:44:16pm

This sorry excuse of a human being is going to get a lot of people killed with his disinformation campaign.

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danarchy  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:44:48pm

re: #99 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

and someone called me a pedant upthread ;-)

it was retaliatory pedantry ;)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:45:52pm

re: #105 Belafon

Only 20 of the virologists are useful?

The other 80 are off sick for the next two weeks.

//

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:48:02pm

re: #107 DodgerFan1988

This sorry excuse of a human being is going to get a lot of people killed with his disinformation campaign.

Someone should offer to allow O’Keefe to tour their hospital, and then tell him he obviously doesn’t need any PPE if he doesn’t believe it’s real.

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ericblair  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:49:39pm

re: #97 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

he always makes it an event to ‘sign the check over’ to this department or that

im not sure that’s possible - depositing money into a department’s bank account?

all revenue is supposed to go into the treasury and be allocated by congress of course

My understanding is no, you have to use the Treasury as payee as a gift to America, because what the hell budget line is any other department going to use. I’m fucking positive he just took a picture of the check and then ripped it up.

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:50:02pm

re: #107 DodgerFan1988

“Army National Guardsman” means “some dude wearing camos”

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 31, 2020 • 12:50:52pm

re: #98 klys (maker of Silmarils)

How helpful that they included the moron label right there in their tweet.

“Civil disorder, you say? Ours or yours?”

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:00:19pm

re: #107 DodgerFan1988

Looks like even the right is hammering O’Keefe for this:

rawstory.com

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:01:32pm

re: #114 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Maybe they are waking up? I am trying to be hopeful.

116
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:02:42pm
117
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:06:09pm

And… I’m unemployed. Yay.

118
retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:11:51pm

Maybe Don’t Keep Navy Sailors on a Plague Ship
Charlie Pierce
The story we talked about earlier, but with details.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:12:09pm
Hospital staff have been frantically trying to get the word out: They are slammed with COVID-19 patients and they don’t have enough personal protective equipment to handle all the patients safely. But in some cases the effort to let the public know the severity of the situation is running up against hospital administrators who want to muzzle front-line healthcare workers, Bloomberg reports.

An emergency room doctor in Washington state was fired after doing a newspaper interview about inadequate protective gear and testing. NYU Langone Health has told workers that talking to the media without permission could cost them their jobs. And in Chicago, a nurse was fired for emailing her colleagues—not even the media—about wanting better protective gear.

dailykos.com

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:12:09pm

Go to Facebook.
Search Wildwood guitars.
Greg Koch is live.
No mute and I hate auto play myself.
So iffen you wantz.
It’s Facebook, which I abhor, but Greg Koch is a hoot.
Just a doorman here.

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retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:13:18pm

Can you stop the auto play????

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:13:28pm
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unproven innocence  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:13:29pm

Within the first minute — “spanish flu or swine flu, it killed about 675 thousand” (in the US):

1918 Spanish Flu historical documentary | Swine Flu Pandemic | Deadly plague of 1918


I’ll keep the math here as simple as I possibly can.
Q1: How many times can 200,000 be doubled, to exceed 675,000?
1doublings —> 400,000
2doublings —> 800,000 (exceeds 675,000)

The 200,000 # deaths in US in near future is based on a model for Covid-19 that assumes we can (possibly, in the short term) slow down and limit its spread in the US to about 3% of the US population, for a while.

Q2: How many times can 3% be doubled, to reach ~50% or ~100% (of US population)?
1doublings —> 6%
2doublings —> 12%
3doublings —> 24%
4doublings —> 48%
5doublings —> 96% (It is likely to stop short of this.)

Q3: How long is a doubling time?
Unchecked, it seems to be ~3 to ~5 days. Rate of spread depends very much on human behavior, and details of how we interact.

Older people remember black-and-white movies in which a handkerchief in a suit-pocket (or a purse) was not only “fashionable” but (in most places) also a matter of state and local law, for several decades.

The Spanish Flu of 1918-1919 was a training excercise, compared to what we are now facing. Most the world is still in denial about how serious this is.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:14:58pm

re: #121 retired cynic

Can you stop the auto play????

Refresh the comment and he’s edited it out. I couldn’t find any way to stop the video.

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retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:15:55pm

re: #124 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Refresh the comment and he’s edited it out. I couldn’t find any way to stop the video.

I tried that before I posted, but it seems to be gone now. Thanks!

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Kilroy was here  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:16:42pm

All Iowa voters to get absentee ballot request form

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:16:57pm

re: #125 retired cynic

I tried that before I posted, but it seems to be gone now. Thanks!

The real villain here is Facebook. Who the fuck doesn’t put a pause button on an automatic embed of video?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:17:39pm

re: #126 Kilroy was here

That is a smart move. PA has rescheduled its primary to June.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:17:49pm

re: #126 Kilroy was here

All Iowa voters to get absentee ballot request form

Iowa’s practicing democracy? What’s this world coming to? Are people there sick or something? //

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:18:44pm

Yes, the typo in the tweet is killing me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:22:15pm

LOL

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:23:06pm

re: #130 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Recipe please!?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:24:05pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:25:20pm

re: #132 lawhawk

Recipe please!?

There really isn’t one! Haha, I’m making this up as I go.

For the beans, it was 3 sprigs of fresh dill with I think 4 cloves of garlic and roughly a teaspoon each of mustard and dill seed, along with ~20 black peppercorns, slightly smashed in the mortar and pestle.

For the onions, 5 cloves of garlic, half a teaspoon each (roughly) of the mustard and dill seed and maybe 10ish black peppercorns.

Roughly 1Tbsp salt to 2 cups of water for the brine.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:25:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:26:09pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:27:23pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

They are treating this pandemic like an experiment and it is not.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:27:58pm

re: #123 unproven innocence

Within the first minute — “spanish flu or swine flu, it killed about 675 thousand” (in the US):

[Embedded content]

The Spanish Flu of 1918-1919 was a training excercise, compared to what we are now facing. Most the world is still in denial about how serious this is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:28:08pm

*snerk*

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:28:25pm

re: #134 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m doing sauerkraut tomorrow, probably two different varieties. One more traditional, one more dill and garlic and mustard. (Sensing any patterns yet?) I used Brad’s recipe from It’s Alive (Bon Appetit) for the traditional - I did a batch two weeks ago that mr. klys has devoured.

I have the recipe from the 2nd Ave Deli cookbook to do their proper full sours but I am out of fresh dill and should not go get more until next week so. Grump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:29:18pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:29:43pm

re: #126 Kilroy was here

All Iowa voters to get absentee ballot request form

[Embedded content]

this is a good move but im still unclear why they are sending ‘requests’

some kind of law that it’s required / they cant just send everyone a ballot?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:30:58pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:32:15pm

re: #142 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

All I can say is that in PA mail-in ballots must be requested no other reason is needed. Absentee ballots the person requesting the must have some sort of disability or be out of the area on the day of the election.

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ericblair  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:33:04pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

My proposal to the politically correct Automobile Companies would lower the average price of a car to consumers by more than $3500, while at the same time making the cars substantially safer. Engines would run smoother. Positive impact on the environment! Foolish executives!

Gee, the old LaSalle ran great…

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garzooma  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:34:21pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

[Embedded content]My proposal to the politically correct Automobile Companies would lower the average price of a car to consumers by more than $3500, while at the same time making the cars substantially safer. Engines would run smoother. Positive impact on the environment! Foolish executives!

Is this about the idea of car companies building ventilators?

147
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:36:16pm

Always a winning strategy to trash the companies you desperately need to help you.

//

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:38:41pm
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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:38:41pm

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, so, he’s upset that car makers are still going to make cars with higher standards than the one’s he wants? I thought he was a brilliant business man who knew how markets work and stuff?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:38:43pm

re: #146 garzooma

Is this about the idea of car companies building ventilators?

I have no idea, and neither does he

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:41:50pm

re: #146 garzooma

Is this about the idea of car companies building ventilators?

It’s probably because he’s rolling back mileage standards that Obama put in place and the automakers are like “cool, bro, but we’re already building these cars to those standards and we’re not changing it”

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:44:24pm

re: #146 garzooma

Is this about the idea of car companies building ventilators?

No, the Trump administration is finalizing rules to lower car efficiency standards.

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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:45:09pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

My job is much more routine than scientific research, and I still find it almost impossible to get work done.

On the plus side, I found toilet paper in a pharmacy today.

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John Hughes  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:45:59pm

Are we virtuous?

Here’s a confession — I’ve never taken the annual Flu vaccination.

Even more striking, my wife, currently suffering a clear (untested) case of COVID-19, who is a nursing assistant in an old people’s care facility (EPHAD) has never taken the annual flu vaccination. Most of her cow-orkers didn’t either.

Why? We’re young (early 60’s), we’ve never been seriously ill, we’re immortal, right?

We’ve all got to take this shit more seriously.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:46:46pm

So this will be another day where the US set a new high in daily deaths, probably a new high in confirmed cases.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:49:35pm

re: #149 KGxvi

Wait, so, he’s upset that car makers are still going to make cars with higher standards than the one’s he wants? I thought he was a brilliant business man who knew how markets work and stuff?

he thinks they can just stop bolting on the ‘environment stuff’ and presto save a bunch of $

clueless, as usual

and also the next president…well, you know…

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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:50:13pm

re: #155 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So this will be another day where the US set a new high in daily deaths, probably a new high in confirmed cases.

The same can be expected for each of the next several days. Exponential growth does that.

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:50:46pm

re: #156 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

he thinks they can just stop bolting on the ‘environment stuff’ and presto save a bunch of $

clueless, as usual

and also the next president…well, you know…

“What do you mean I can’t put glass packs on my mustang?”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:50:46pm

re: #155 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So this will be another day where the US set a new high in daily deaths, probably a new high in confirmed cases.

I am openly wondering if we will have the most deaths of any country in the world by the time this is over.

How fucking sad would that be?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:52:21pm

re: #154 John Hughes

Are we virtuous?

Here’s a confession — I’ve never taken the annual Flu vaccination.

Even more striking, my wife, currently suffering a clear (untested) case of COVID-19, who is a nursing assistant in an old people’s care facility (EPHAD) has never taken the annual flu vaccination. Most of her cow-orkers didn’t either.

Why? We’re young (early 60’s), we’ve never been seriously ill, we’re immortal, right?

We’ve all got to take this shit more seriously.

ditto
62
also not been really seriously ill in a long time
this year was the first time i ever got vaccine
mostly to protect mrs dm’s respiratory issues

and loved the ‘cow-orkers’

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gwangung  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:52:30pm

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

I am openly wondering if we will have the most deaths of any country in the world by the time this is over.

How fucking sad would that be?

Wonder? I’m pretty sure of it.

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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:52:45pm

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

I am openly wondering if we will have the most deaths of any country in the world by the time this is over.

How fucking sad would that be?

IMO that’s unlikely. China can’t keep a lid on it forever (assuming their official reports are accurate) and India and Brazil are going to be giant clusterfucks.

But Trump could give the US the most deaths per capita in the developed world. Easily.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:53:33pm

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

I expect India will end up with the most deaths, though it will take some epidemiological sleuthing after the fact to sort out India. Same with Pakistan.

It’s unclear to me how bad Indonesia will be affected, but they currently have a high CFR but that is probably because a lack of testing.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:53:38pm

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

I am openly wondering if we will have the most deaths of any country in the world by the time this is over.

How fucking sad would that be?

sad, predictable, and not surprising at all

the man’s an idiot
his administration are idiots

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:54:06pm

re: #162 EPR-radar

IMO that’s unlikely. China can’t keep a lid on it forever (assuming their official reports are accurate) and India and Brazil are going to be giant clusterfucks.

But Trump could give the US the most deaths per capita in the developed world. Easily.

There’s also the mysterious case of Iran

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:54:29pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:55:14pm

The most recent data has India at 1397 cases which just blows my mind in a country with over a BILLION people who culturally are very frequently packed tightly together.

I can only assume their actual numbers are grossly underreported.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:55:29pm

re: #160 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

ditto
62
also not been really seriously ill in a long time
this year was the first time i ever got vaccine
mostly to protect mrs dm’s respiratory issues

and loved the ‘cow-orkers’

I actually meant to get mine this year, after the flu to start my 2019. Haha. But I didn’t get around to it soon enough before travel for Christmas and after mr. klys had the flu over Christmas travel …again… I figured my immune system was firing on all cylinders.

But I will try to get it next year.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:55:50pm

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

I am openly wondering if we will have the most deaths of any country in the world by the time this is over.

How fucking sad would that be?

and
we’ve already more than doubled china’s total number of cases
82k vs 181k

and we have more deaths than china
3309 vs 3606

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:56:52pm

re: #119 Belafon

Hospital staff have been frantically trying to get the word out: They are slammed with COVID-19 patients and they don’t have enough personal protective equipment to handle all the patients safely. But in some cases the effort to let the public know the severity of the situation is running up against hospital administrators who want to muzzle front-line healthcare workers, Bloomberg reports.
An emergency room doctor in Washington state was fired after doing a newspaper interview about inadequate protective gear and testing. NYU Langone Health has told workers that talking to the media without permission could cost them their jobs. And in Chicago, a nurse was fired for emailing her colleagues—not even the media—about wanting better protective gear.

Let me guess that finding a new job in the field of medicine has never been easier. (“Talking to the media could lose us trained personnel.”)

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Kilroy was here  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:57:14pm

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:57:42pm

re: #166 Patricia Kayden

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the sub-sub text here is that no one’s gonna buy a new car for a long time unless they have to

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:57:54pm

We are still at the front end of this pandemic. While people are anxious about the deaths so far, it appears as if only a tiny fraction of our population have been infected.

Unless there have been vastly more infected than the case counts currently show, which some people who want to downplay Covid-19 keep proposing, then we have to keep the social distancing/lockdowns in place until a vaccine is developed, or else this pandemic will end up being the biggest depopulation event since WWII.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 1:59:45pm

Last week I had some random coughs, and my chest sort of hurt when taking a breath. But I had no fever, no headache, no pains, no loss of taste, etc. So I guess I could have already been infected and been mostly asymptomatic.

But I sort of doubt it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:01:07pm

re: #173 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We are still at the front end of this pandemic. While people are anxious about the deaths so far, it appears as if only a tiny fraction of our population have been infected.

Unless there have been vastly more infected than the case counts currently show, which some people who want to downplay Covid-19 keep proposing, then we have to keep the social distancing/lockdowns in place until a vaccine is developed, or else this pandemic will end up being the biggest depopulation event since WWII.

Somewhere around one half of one percent, using the current number of confirmed infections and a figure of 327 million for our population.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:02:00pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

Somewhere around one half of one percent, using the current number of confirmed infections and a figure of 327 million for our population.

Wait. My math is wrong. It’s even less that.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:02:08pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

Me thinks your math is off… 183k/330M…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:02:30pm

re: #173 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We are still at the front end of this pandemic. While people are anxious about the deaths so far, it appears as if only a tiny fraction of our population have been infected.

Unless there have been vastly more infected than the case counts currently show, which some people who want to downplay Covid-19 keep proposing, then we have to keep the social distancing/lockdowns in place until a vaccine is developed, or else this pandemic will end up being the biggest depopulation event since WWII.

this 1000 times over

isolating for a month doesnt end this thing in a macro way
testing negative doesnt end it for you in a micro way

trying to figure how to not infect each other or get infected, while some semblance of life goes on *is* the new normal

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:03:19pm

re: #174 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Last week I had some random coughs, and my chest sort of hurt when taking a breath. But I had no fever, no headache, no pains, no loss of taste, etc. So I guess I could have already been infected and been mostly asymptomatic.

But I sort of doubt it.

Hopefully, in another month or so, we’ll have the antibodies tests up and running and you’ll be able to find out!

Okay, maybe the month timeline is optimistic. Sure, they’re rolling them out in other countries but …yeah.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:03:24pm

re: #173 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We are still at the front end of this pandemic. While people are anxious about the deaths so far, it appears as if only a tiny fraction of our population have been infected.

Unless there have been vastly more infected than the case counts currently show, which some people who want to downplay Covid-19 keep proposing, then we have to keep the social distancing/lockdowns in place until a vaccine is developed, or else this pandemic will end up being the biggest depopulation event since WWII.

My sister keeps pushing the “testing is unknown so the disease is actually far more prevalent than it seems” narrative, which is driving me nuts because at an approximated 1% death rate (give or take a couple of points), that would be a LOT of dead people.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:04:08pm

re: #177 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Me thinks your math is off… 183k/330M…

Yes, I noticed. See #176. My bad.

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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:04:26pm

re: #173 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We are still at the front end of this pandemic. While people are anxious about the deaths so far, it appears as if only a tiny fraction of our population have been infected.

Unless there have been vastly more infected than the case counts currently show, which some people who want to downplay Covid-19 keep proposing, then we have to keep the social distancing/lockdowns in place until a vaccine is developed, or else this pandemic will end up being the biggest depopulation event since WWII.

Trump’s idea of trying to open everything back up by easter was omega-level stupid, of course, but months on end of shelter in place really is going to hammer the hell out of the economy.

IMO the most rational policy response is UBI, but Republicans will never do it, and doing it as quickly as it would be needed would also pose real problems.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:04:34pm

re: #178 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

this 1000 times over

isolating for a month doesnt end this thing in a macro way
testing negative doesnt end it for you in a micro way

trying to figure how to not infect each other or get infected, while some semblance of life goes on *is* the new normal

ps
there is no ‘going back’.
so either accept that and behave accordingly, or you will be more likely to get sick

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:05:02pm

re: #180 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My sister keeps pushing the “testing is unknown so the disease is actually far more prevalent than it seems” narrative, which is driving me nuts because at an approximated 1% death rate (give or take a couple of points), that would be a LOT of dead people.

It could be the death rate is actually lower than we believe because so many mild cases are going completely undetected.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:05:49pm

re: #51 Belafon

Who’s supplying the blessed pot?

DON’T EAT THE BROWN COMMUNION WAFERS, PLEASE, DON’T EAT THE BROWN COMMUNION WAFERS!

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:06:52pm

Heading out to the dr’s office in a few minutes. There’s a Twin Cities pizza chain that I like that’s on the way home so I ordered a large pizza and a ‘snacker’ side of meatballs and garlic bread. They’re running a lot of specials to try to keep busy, so my order, including a 18% tip, is less than 10 bucks. That’ll be enough food for four big meals. No-touch curbside pickup.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:08:11pm

re: #186 stpaulbear

Heading out to the dr’s office in a few minutes. There’s a Twin Cities pizza chain that I like that’s on the way home so I ordered a large pizza and a ‘snacker’ side of meatballs and garlic bread. They’re running a lot of specials to try to keep busy, so my order, including a 18% tip, is less than 10 bucks. That’ll be enough food for four big meals. No-touch curbside pickup.

WOW.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:09:46pm

The 1918 flu pandemic killed about one out of every 160 Americans.

The current Covid-19 CFR is about four times that in the US.

So if indeed there are 10 people infected for every detected case then this pandemic will kill a smaller share of the population than the 1918 pandemic.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:13:22pm

re: #180 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My sister keeps pushing the “testing is unknown so the disease is actually far more prevalent than it seems” narrative, which is driving me nuts because at an approximated 1% death rate (give or take a couple of points), that would be a LOT of dead people.

It’s pretty clear we are undertesting in the US and therefore undercounting the current number of infections. We know this because of data from other places where they are testing a lot - there’s no way that our hospitalization/death rate is that much higher. So if you figure that hospitalizations is ~20% of cases (and I’m including deaths in the hospitalization numbers, here, because if you die it’s a severe case and severe cases should be hospitalized) …we’re missing a lot of the milder ones.

Which makes sense, because we’re saving the tests for places where they’re the most useful, because our leadership is a giant fuck-up and completely unhelpful.

That said, you can sort of extrapolate backwards from the hospitalization rate (which is hard to come by, haha, super useful) or death rate (which lags by a LOT) to get a better estimate of the lower bound of cases we have in the country right now. Of course, since both of those are lagging indicators, it’s still going to undercount current cases.

The right thing to do is to assume that it is a lot more prevalent for the purposes of protecting yourself and your family but not to take that as a sign that the death rate is lower than believed (I think the best estimate of the infected-fatality ratio we have right now is ~0.7% from a study in The Lancet based off of Chinese data - CFR is pretty much always going to be higher than IFR during the epidemic because it is easier to measure, IFR has to be estimated - and this is still WAY HIGHER than the flu so stay the fuck home).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:13:58pm

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

It could be the death rate is actually lower than we believe because so many mild cases are going completely undetected.

The problem is, there are now a lot of testing going on. And about 90% of the tests come back negative, in Florida for example.

The people chosen for this testing includes those who were in contact with the positives. So if this pool of possible candidates is still coming back at 90% negative, the rest of the population who have no known contact with positives are unlikely to test positive at a higher rate than possible contactees.

Until we do a large random sample with the antibody test we won’t know.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:14:29pm

re: #186 stpaulbear

Heading out to the dr’s office in a few minutes. There’s a Twin Cities pizza chain that I like that’s on the way home so I ordered a large pizza and a ‘snacker’ side of meatballs and garlic bread. They’re running a lot of specials to try to keep busy, so my order, including a 18% tip, is less than 10 bucks. That’ll be enough food for four big meals. No-touch curbside pickup.

there’s pie?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:16:06pm

Kentucky has 114 new confirmed cases, a new high, and six deaths today.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:16:15pm

I just can’t let it go….

Great events need commemorating
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:17:32pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:17:44pm

re: #190 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The problem is, there are now a lot of testing going on. And about 90% of the tests come back negative, in Florida for example.

The people chosen for this testing includes those who were in contact with the positives. So if this pool of possible candidates is still coming back at 90% negative, the rest of the population who have no known contact with positives are unlikely to test positive at a higher rate than possible contactees.

Until we do a large random sample with the antibody test we won’t know.

On the flip side, there are a lot of cases out there with symptoms consistent with the virus that cannot get tested because they aren’t in contact with a known positive or don’t fall into one of the high risk groups.

That said, the 90% number doesn’t surprise me because one of the early studies about spread in the US was that only about 10% of household contacts with known cases developed the virus. The number was lower for non-household close contacts.

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:18:10pm

re: #180 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My sister keeps pushing the “testing is unknown so the disease is actually far more prevalent than it seems” narrative, which is driving me nuts because at an approximated 1% death rate (give or take a couple of points), that would be a LOT of dead people.

My hunch is that there are a lot of undiagnosed cases that aren’t going to get reported. In part because of the asymptomatic nature of this virus and in part because mild cases are not going to have access to testing. In theory, this means while we might see a 1% death rate for known cases, the overall number will be drastically lower. Of course, the other problem is that if the known cases overrun the health care system, we’re all fucked because there will be spill over effects for everyone not dealing with bad cases of COVID-19.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:19:41pm
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unproven innocence  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:20:12pm

re: #188 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The 1918 flu pandemic killed about one out of every 160 Americans.

The current Covid-19 CFR is about four times that in the US.

So if indeed there are 10 people infected for every detected case then this pandemic will kill a smaller share of the population than the 1918 pandemic.

Yes, with good medical care. But without that, expect a somewhat higher death rate. Most Americans can’t even afford an annual checkup.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:20:51pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:21:20pm

re: #197 The Pie Overlord!

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“Hey, don’t tell me how to vote! Biden has to earn my vote!”

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:21:48pm

re: #194 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

You will pry my virus from my cold, dead hands.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:21:56pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

He already has mine. :)

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:23:47pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

“Hey, don’t tell me how to vote! Biden has to earn my vote!”

//////

Biden’s earned my vote by winning the Democratic nomination and by the fact that he will face Trump in the general. Had it been Sanders… I probably would have been looking at becoming an ex-pat at this point.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:24:20pm

Beshear reporting another death to make it 7 in Kentucky today.

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John Hughes  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:24:29pm

re: #22 DodgerFan1988

Schapiro: The market determines prices.

In everything except labour.

Slavery apologist.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:24:34pm

re: #196 KGxvi

Currently in the US the CFR is around 2%, not 1%.

And here is what troubles me: in countries which have good health care systems (better than the US), the CFR is rising all the while the case numbers (and test numbers) are rising.

Germany’s CFR has risen quite a bit, now over 1%.

South Korea’s CFR has been rising, over 1%, and they’ve done a lot of testing.

Belgium’s CFR is now over 5%.

The Netherland’s CFR is now around 8%.

And these are places that have yet to get into the deep hole that Italy (and now Spain) have entered where the health providers are now unable to provide.

So SARS-Cov-2 is striking me like the original SARS and MERS. The latest variant is not as deadly as those two, but still considerable compared to the usual viruses we deal with.

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lizardofid  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:26:05pm

re: #201 Belafon

You will pry my virus from my cold, dead hands.

‘The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a virus is a …………..”

you know ; )

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:27:34pm

Beshear allowing retired first responders to be rehired without a retirement penalty to expand the pool.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:27:50pm

re: #195 klys (maker of Silmarils)

On the flip side, there are a lot of cases out there with symptoms consistent with the virus that cannot get tested because they aren’t in contact with a known positive or don’t fall into one of the high risk groups.

That said, the 90% number doesn’t surprise me because one of the early studies about spread in the US was that only about 10% of household contacts with known cases developed the virus. The number was lower for non-household close contacts.

another flip side is the accuracy (or lack thereof) of the tests

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:27:56pm

Minnesota reported 53 new cases in yesterday’s numbers - down from Friday’s 62 and Saturday’s 73 - and 2 new deaths, bringing us to 629 and 12, 56 hospitalized, with nearly 20,000 tested.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:28:29pm

re: #207 lizardofid

‘The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a virus is a …………..”

you know ; )

Good guy with a vaccine?

//

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:29:36pm

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

Good guy with a vaccine?

//

There are no good guys with vaccines. - anti-vaxxer

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:29:36pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:30:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:30:16pm
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lizardofid  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:31:00pm

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

Good guy with a vaccine?

Good guy with an antibody?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:32:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:32:49pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:32:55pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:33:04pm

And when the car prices don’t come down, Trump will do as he always does: Dump the blame on the car companies while insisting he never promised car prices would come down.

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John Hughes  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:34:00pm

re: #4 stpaulbear

I wish Seth would realize that his Trump impressions aren’t very good.

Everybody is a critic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:34:04pm

...

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:34:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:36:27pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:36:59pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

He doesn’t tweet a lot but I found this from a few weeks ago @Joementum lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:38:24pm
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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:39:28pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s the thing, folks: It’s on Trump for not setting up the oversight in the law, not the Democrats fault for getting a bill through that Trump is changing.

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NetworkKed  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:39:36pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

Like Trump has ever exhibited any form of personal honor. Good god.

If the congress didn’t get the oversight actually written into law, then they all need to be replaced for terminal stupidity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:40:42pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:41:24pm

re: #228 NetworkKed

Like Trump has ever exhibited any form of personal honor. Good god.

If the congress didn’t get the oversight actually written into law, then they all need to be replaced for terminal stupidity.

As I understand it, the oversight is in the text of the law, but Trump issued a signing statement that tries to nullify that provision.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:41:50pm

re: #228 NetworkKed

Like Trump has ever exhibited any form of personal honor. Good god.

If the congress didn’t get the oversight actually written into law, then they all need to be replaced for terminal stupidity.

The oversight is written into the law. Trump is trying to claim a signing statement lets him get out of it.

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plansbandc  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:41:58pm

re: #7 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Love this “logic”. It’s in the same neighborhood as my fave RWNJ/christofascist bumper sticker.

“We protect bald eagles, but we don’t protect unborn children.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:42:14pm

Lre: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well he got nominated and then elected by running as Trump’s bestie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:43:07pm

re: #231 Belafon

The oversight is written into the law. Trump is trying to claim a signing statement lets him get out of it.

Narrator’s Voice: It does not

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John Hughes  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:43:09pm

re: #6 Mescalero09

The New York Times are the problem. They have been since the Shrub. American Pravda.

Fucking “liberal media”.

Fucking “main stream media”.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:43:15pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump: I DIDN’T order them to shelter at home.
DeSantis: I DIDN’T order them to shelter at home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:43:53pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:43:57pm

re: #231 Belafon

The oversight is written into the law. Trump is trying to claim a signing statement lets him get out of it.

And the Senate will let him get out of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:44:28pm

re: #225 gocart mozart

He doesn’t tweet a lot but I found this from a few weeks ago @Joementum lol

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:44:41pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Alabama too

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:44:57pm

re: #142 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

this is a good move but im still unclear why they are sending ‘requests’

some kind of law that it’s required / they cant just send everyone a ballot?

It’s a two-step process in the few states I’m familiar with. A chain of custody/identity has to be maintained. Getting Alabama to allow non-emergency use of absentee voting is one of our goals. The Gov and SoS are not interested.

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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:45:30pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

Narrator’s Voice: It does not

But it does tie it up in friendly right wing nut job courts long enough for Trump to steal millions.

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CleverToad  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:46:40pm

The spousal unit is surfing and telling me “You need to post this!”

So: Check out the latest XKCD - Pathogen Resistance
xkcd.com

And:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:47:40pm

Beshear said evictions are suspended in Kentucky so that unemployed renters can shelter at home.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:48:14pm

re: #241 Decatur Deb

Yes it is in PA. Please check littlegreenfootballs.com

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plansbandc  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:48:32pm

re: #24 Mescalero09

Loved his show for years, then a few years ago he came back briefly and just fucking loved him some tRump.

Never listened to him after that, but I was sad when he died.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:50:13pm
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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:50:23pm

re: #154 John Hughes

Are we virtuous?

Here’s a confession — I’ve never taken the annual Flu vaccination.

Even more striking, my wife, currently suffering a clear (untested) case of COVID-19, who is a nursing assistant in an old people’s care facility (EPHAD) has never taken the annual flu vaccination. Most of her cow-orkers didn’t either.

Why? We’re young (early 60’s), we’ve never been seriously ill, we’re immortal, right?

We’ve all got to take this shit more seriously.

I’ve gotten annual flu shots and have gotten the flu twice in the past 5 years. Not severe in either case, but enough to lay me low for a bit.

We would all do so much better if we required annual vaccinations for the flu and mandatory vaccinations for all the common diseases for which vaccinations are available - no exceptions except for medical necessity.

This isn’t about religious beliefs, because there aren’t any religious groups that object to vaccination. People who ignore vaccinations and public health are a public threat to all people.

This pandemic once again makes that explicitly clear.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:51:35pm

re: #238 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And the Senate will let him get out of it.

And, as I said above, that’s not on Democrats.

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John Hughes  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:51:45pm

re: #10 mmmirele

I wish I had a N95 mask and goggles right now. I know a couple of churches that DESPERATELY need a picket this Sunday.

No, they don’t. You need to think of your own health first.

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:51:57pm
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Eventual Carrion  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:52:41pm

re: #144 PhillyPretzel

All I can say is that in PA mail-in ballots must be requested no other reason is needed. Absentee ballots the person requesting the must have some sort of disability or be out of the area on the day of the election.

My son can get an absentee ballot anyway because of the PA rule “College students who are not registered to vote at their school address”. He is registered up here at our address, but has an apartment, goes to college and works 45 minutes south of here. But true, any voter can get a mail-in ballot sent to them without having to have a reason.

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plansbandc  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:53:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:56:00pm
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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:56:39pm

re: #243 CleverToad

The spousal unit is surfing and telling me “You need to post this!”

So: Check out the latest XKCD - Pathogen Resistance
xkcd.com

And:

Make sure you check out the hover text when you read it.

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:57:31pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:59:29pm
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Dave In Austin  Mar 31, 2020 • 2:59:38pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:02:29pm
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plansbandc  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:02:43pm

re: #173 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I think it’s going to be the biggest depopulation event in the history of our world. My hope is that enough people survive to carry on.

But the world as we knew it is gone forever.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:03:05pm

Republicans in red states will soon learn the same thing most of us already know: That Donald Trump does not actually fucking care about ANYBODY except for Donald Trump.

He’s pretty much thrown our ENTIRE NATION under the bus at this point.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:04:35pm

Daily count update is done here. There’s 42 new cases today, two new deaths. If you consider some of yesterday’s spike as having been missing from previous days …you can actually start to see the curve flattening.

Which it should be, given that today is 2 weeks of shelter-in-place being active in the area.

Unrelated but I ran 166.6 miles this month, half of which was done while under shelter-in-place. You can still be active, you just gotta have your 6ft bubble. :) (Streak count at 93 days and going.)

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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:04:41pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Republicans in red states will soon learn the same thing most of us already know: That Donald Trump does not actually fucking care about ANYBODY except for Donald Trump.

He’s pretty much thrown our ENTIRE NATION under the bus at this point.

Trump probably doesn’t even concede the existence of people other than himself.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:04:59pm

Beshear’s sign language interpreter got prominent mention on John Oliver’s show for her great facial expression; check it out!

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lizardofid  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:05:14pm

According to estimates for expected hospital resource use on this site, since last Friday the peak in Texas has been pushed from April 18 to May 5th. Even given expected inaccuracy that would indicate we’re at least flattening the curve somewhat. I just wish you could zero in to the major metro areas like Harris and Dallas county. I fear statewide averages could look very survivable, while our major city hospitals are facing a tidal wave.

covid19.healthdata.org

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Dave In Austin  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:05:45pm

Coward won’t say the numbers. Makes the Drs do it.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:06:46pm

re: #265 lizardofid

According to estimates for expected hospital resource use on this site, since last Friday the peak in Texas has been pushed from April 18 to May 5th. Even given expected inaccuracy that would indicate we’re at least flattening the curve somewhat. I just wish you could zero in to the major metro areas like Harris and Dallas county. I fear statewide averages could look very survivable, while our major city hospitals are facing a tidal wave.

covid19.healthdata.org

Abbott just signed an order keeping all Texas schools closed until May 4th. I fully expect that to get pushed to the end of the year.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:06:52pm

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

But his poll numbers are ticking upwards. It feels as if no matter what he does, he has a strong chance of being re-elected. I don’t get it. I’m hoping Democrats wage a scorched earth campaign against him sooner rather than later.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:07:50pm

re: #268 Patricia Kayden

But his poll numbers are ticking upwards. It feels as if no matter what he does, he has a strong chance of being re-elected. I don’t get it. I’m hoping Democrats wage a scorched earth campaign against him sooner rather than later.

Recent polling had him losing 14 points over that “rally around the flag” poll.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:08:25pm

re: #258 Dave In Austin

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Cremation will become a lot more common as the cost of gravesites spikes.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:08:56pm

I just found out about this from radio.com and from yahoo: Andrew Jack of Star Wars is dead at 76. search.yahoo.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:09:42pm

re: #268 Patricia Kayden

But his poll numbers are ticking upwards. It feels as if no matter what he does, he has a strong chance of being re-elected. I don’t get it. I’m hoping Democrats wage a scorched earth campaign against him sooner rather than later.

HURR HURR JOE BIDEN IS A RAPIST!!! I’M NOT VOTING FOR A RAPIST!!! BOTHSIDES HRRRRRDRRRRR!!!!1!!!—ratfucking Russian trolls.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:09:52pm

re: #260 plansbandc

I think it’s going to be the biggest depopulation event in the history of our world. My hope is that enough people survive to carry on.

But the world as we knew it is gone forever.

Nah, Black Death did way more.

Or there is believed to have been a near-extinction event back in the very early emergence of humanity, the effects of which are supposedly visible in the human genome (see the genetic bottleneck section on the Toba catastrophe theory).

Things have changed, I agree, and I don’t think they’ll ever go back to exactly as they were. But the same could be said of any other number of events that have happened in my lifetime.

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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:09:53pm

re: #269 Belafon

Recent polling had him losing 14 points over that “rally around the flag” poll.

Yeah, I don’t see this as netting out as a positive for Trump’s reelection.

Hopefully the Mango Menace strokes out about that from stress in the next few months. I’d like November to be a sure thing.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:10:10pm

re: #270 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Cremation will become a lot more common as the cost of gravesites spikes.

I hear there’s a deal at $1200 a pop. Couples deals for $2400.

///// Not really

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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:11:15pm

re: #273 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Nah, Black Death did way more.

Or there is believed to have been a near-extinction event back in the very early emergence of humanity, the effects of which are supposedly visible in the human genome (see the genetic bottleneck section on the Toba catastrophe theory).

Things have changed, I agree, and I don’t think they’ll ever go back to exactly as they were. But the same could be said of any other number of events that have happened in my lifetime.

I think a near-repeat of the 1918 flu is a likely outcome.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:11:54pm

re: #268 Patricia Kayden

But his poll numbers are ticking upwards. It feels as if no matter what he does, he has a strong chance of being re-elected. I don’t get it. I’m hoping Democrats wage a scorched earth campaign against him sooner rather than later.

There’s still plenty of time between now and November.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:12:36pm

Fat Donny of Corona He’s now fapping furiously

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:12:39pm

OK THEN DIE

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calochortus  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:13:19pm

re: #262 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Daily count update is done here. There’s 42 new cases today, two new deaths. If you consider some of yesterday’s spike as having been missing from previous days …you can actually start to see the curve flattening.

Which it should be, given that today is 2 weeks of shelter-in-place being active in the area.

Unrelated but I ran 166.6 miles this month, half of which was done while under shelter-in-place. You can still be active, you just gotta have your 6ft bubble. :) (Streak count at 93 days and going.)

My daughter says they were expecting to be slammed in Contra Costa County last week, but while they have covid cases, it wasn’t bad. They’re now expecting it to be bad this week. We shall see. She hasn’t worked the first couple days this week, so she hasn’t been in to the hospital for couple days. She’s working overnight tomorrow, so we’ll see what she reports.

The local numbers appear to be better than the nation as a whole. We shall see.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:13:42pm

re: #279 The Pie Overlord!

OK THEN DIE

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This is why we’re more fucked than plenty of other countries.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:13:55pm

re: #276 EPR-radar

I think a near-repeat of the 1918 flu is a likely outcome.

When you have governors more afraid of Trump than of a pandemic killing thousands of their constituents. Kentucky so dodged a bullet last November.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:15:16pm

re: #280 calochortus

My daughter says they were expecting to be slammed in Contra Costa County last week, but while they have covid cases, it wasn’t bad. They’re now expecting it to be bad this week. We shall see. She hasn’t worked the first couple days this week, so she hasn’t been in to the hospital for couple days. She’s working overnight tomorrow, so we’ll see what she reports.

The local numbers appear to be better than the nation as a whole. We shall see.

Yeah. The hospitalization peak is going to lag somewhat behind the case peak too (and then the death peak after that…). Plus the cumulative effects, because this is not a short hospitalization for those who require it.

Continuing to wish her and all the other healthcare workers on the frontline the protection they need and the support to do their jobs safely and securely.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:16:17pm

re: #279 The Pie Overlord!

OK THEN DIE

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Reported.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:17:08pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:18:39pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:21:49pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:23:51pm

Very persuasive.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:26:07pm

re: #288 teleskiguy

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Very persuasive.

I am so gonna follow the advice on that page!

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calochortus  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:29:35pm

re: #288 teleskiguy

Speaking of stress baking, while I’d like be baking scones, I am waiting for my first attempt at gluten free “rye” bread to come out of the oven.

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cat-tikvah  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:29:54pm

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

I am openly wondering if we will have the most deaths of any country in the world by the time this is over.

How fucking sad would that be?

Extremely sad.
But slightly less if it includes trump and all his enablers in Congress.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:30:47pm

New Bob Cesca Show

A Very Good Job — Not safe for work! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Haircut disasters and stay at home lockdowns; The internet community; Chris Cuomo tests positive; Stormy Daniels trolls Trump; Trump insists that 150,000 deaths will mean he’s done a good job; The Scotty Gambit; Bill Mitchell is a kook; Fox News is worried about lawsuits; The Truth Commission; Judge Walton is looking into Barr’s handling of the Mueller Report; With music by Brian Lisik and Rockolith; and more!

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teleskiguy  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:37:43pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:38:34pm

re: #288 teleskiguy

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Very persuasive.

Fooled me for a minute lol.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:41:33pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

To be fair, he’s not the only national leader to fancy himself an auto designer.

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:41:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:42:44pm

re: #264 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Beshear’s sign language interpreter got prominent mention on John Oliver’s show for her great facial expression; check it out!

Victoria is a treasure

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:46:20pm

re: #264 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Beshear’s sign language interpreter got prominent mention on John Oliver’s show for her great facial expression; check it out!

also, I posted this morning:

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John Hughes  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:48:44pm

re: #75 Belafon

Charles hates pedants who correct him :)

(As a self-diagnosed troll I understand that — pedantry is a devastating trolling tactic because it’s half-right).

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:49:20pm

re: #260 plansbandc

I think it’s going to be the biggest depopulation event in the history of our world. My hope is that enough people survive to carry on.

But the world as we knew it is gone forever.

No, It’s going to be a million tragedies, but it’s going to be a historical blip. If we learn, for a while it might leave us more decent and more civilized.

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plansbandc  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:50:24pm

re: #300 Decatur Deb

I sincerely hope you are correct

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A Cranky One  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:50:41pm

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:51:21pm

re: #299 John Hughes

Charles hates pedants who correct him :)

(As a self-diagnosed troll I understand that — pedantry is a devastating trolling tactic because it’s half-right).

One of my favorite Futurama quotes:

Technically Correct - Futurama

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:51:53pm

re: #296 jaunte

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teleskiguy  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:55:18pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:56:24pm

OK. seeing COVID-19 deaths ranging from ~3750 - ~3800 as of right now.

Thought I would look for some other numbers
1: 31
2: 3,168
3: 3,774

Those are US Law Enforcement Line of Duty Deaths.
Covering everything from automobile crash, gunfire, heart attack, motorcycle crash, struck by vehicle, vehicle pursuit, vehicular assault and 9/11 related illness

1. So far in 2020
2. Since 1 Sep, 2001
3. Since 1 Jan, 1998

I wonder how many people suggesting this coronavirus is no worse than the flu, and that the “economy is worth more than a few deaths” are always ready to scream “Blue Lives Matter”?

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:56:54pm

re: #260 plansbandc

I think it’s going to be the biggest depopulation event in the history of our world. My hope is that enough people survive to carry on.

But the world as we knew it is gone forever.

The black death killed somewhere between 75-200 million people over a 7 year period. Half of the Paris population died. Overall, the world population dropped by something like 20-25%.

To get there, we’d need something like 1.5-2 billion people to die.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:58:11pm

re: #301 plansbandc

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KGxvi  Mar 31, 2020 • 3:58:43pm

re: #306 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

All of them, Katie.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:05:01pm

So a debate between Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo on whether to cover Trump’s daily campaign rally in total. Cuomo makes the comment that Trump is learning — and that is what I fear. He is learning how to present himself so that the American audience, which has the memory of a gnat, will see that he has finally taken control and handled this catastrophe — a catastrophe entirely of his own making. He is becoming “Presidential”, because he will be adjusting his con to appeal to a wider variety of the imbecilic voters of this nation. Listening to a constant barrage of lies just makes you more susceptible to the liar.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:06:17pm
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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:11:21pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:12:28pm

OK, TORNADO WARNING

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steve_davis  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:13:30pm

re: #130 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Yes, the typo in the tweet is killing me.

be careful. canned green beans are low acidic. they are generally the thing that kills people amongst canned items.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:14:00pm

Update from a few threads ago: Those of us in the disability community who need the $1200 will need to file with the IRS. Reportedly, you cannot electronically file.

It’s been 25 years since I had a job and needed to file. I used the 1040 short form. We’d better be able to get the forms online since all the municipal offices with tax forms are closed.

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:15:45pm

Well the doctor’s appointment was interesting. I got my temp taken at the front desk and it was normal. I filled out a questionnaire about where I’ve been and who I’ve been near (I brought my own pen), They had everything set up so that we were at least 8’ apart.

My doctor and I started talking about what’s going on and he kind of came down as someone who wants things to get back to normal asap. He was ragging on people who wouldn’t come in to work. He said a few things I would disagree with but I didn’t want to argue with a doctor, I just listened and replied “interesting”. We eventually started talking about hi-fi gear. I see him again in 6 months.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:16:05pm

re: #312 Dread Pirate

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oh fuck him and the whole moron labe administration

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austin_blue  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:17:36pm

re: #265 lizardofid

According to estimates for expected hospital resource use on this site, since last Friday the peak in Texas has been pushed from April 18 to May 5th. Even given expected inaccuracy that would indicate we’re at least flattening the curve somewhat. I just wish you could zero in to the major metro areas like Harris and Dallas county. I fear statewide averages could look very survivable, while our major city hospitals are facing a tidal wave.

covid19.healthdata.org

I think we are OK in the big cities. They’ve been proactive in Harris, Dallas, Travis, Bexar, etc.

Where things have been lax is in Ector, Midland, Potter, Lubbock, Smith, Kerr, and Taylor counties. They are pretty much wide open. It’s the medium sized cities that will pay in Texas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:19:59pm

re: #315 Sherlock Hound

Update from a few threads ago: Those of us in the disability community who need the $1200 will need to file with the IRS. Reportedly, you cannot electronically file.

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It’s been 25 years since I had a job and needed to file. I used the 1040 short form. We’d better be able to get the forms online since all the municipal offices with tax forms are closed.

all IRS forms are available online

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HRH Stanley Sea  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:20:28pm

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:21:48pm

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have been doing e-file for the past 4 years. They have all of my information.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:22:45pm
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steve_davis  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:24:30pm

re: #160 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

ditto
62
also not been really seriously ill in a long time
this year was the first time i ever got vaccine
mostly to protect mrs dm’s respiratory issues

and loved the ‘cow-orkers’

I’ve never taken the flu vaccine. as far as i know, nobody in my family has ever taken the flu vaccine. as far as i know, none of us has ever had the flu. my dad was a rector and ran the day school for 35 years. I don’t think he was ever sick with anything respiratory, nor my mother. I knock on wood every day.

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:26:15pm

re: #306 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

OK. seeing COVID-19 deaths ranging from ~3750 - ~3800 as of right now.

Thought I would look for some other numbers
1: 31
2: 3,168
3: 3,774

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NYC has experienced more deaths from covid19 than they’ve seen homicides in any single year since 1996. More deaths than 2018, 2017, and 2016 combined.

And that toll is rising steadily. So while the law and order types were demanding crackdowns and action for those murders, there’s no indication that they’ll go after Trump whose failures have resulted in more than 1000 dead in NYC and nearly 4000 nationwide.

Nearly all of this was avoidable. Trump just didn’t give a shit and didn’t listen to anyone but the know nothings feeding him what he wanted to hear.

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:26:22pm

Behold the holocaust denying cartoon.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:29:43pm

re: #325 gocart mozart

Behold the holocaust denying cartoon.

What the fuck is that cartoon? It’s like the biggest non-sequitur ever.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:29:51pm

re: #320 HRH Stanley Sea

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:31:37pm

Trump’s failure and body count grows by the day. He is never going to act presidential and his failure will be his legacy. His legacy will be marked by a massive death toll that was avoidable. Trump’s failure is marked by the body count, which grows by hundreds of Benghazis a day.

Fuck him and fuck the complicit GOP who continues to cover for him despite all the public health experts warning of dire consequences for not taking immediate and desperate actions to flatten the curve.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:32:35pm

re: #328 lawhawk

You are correct. :(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:39:39pm
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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:39:49pm

Fuck all the media types who think Trump suddenly sounded sober and “presidential”. He’s not now nor ever been presidential. He’s a fuckup who keeps fucking up the pandemic response. The death toll is on him and his corrupt and incompetent admin.

Among all presidents, he will be forever known as the worst president of all time whose dumbfuckery and know nothing worldview killed thousands (now) and expected 100,000 or more (best case scenario) or millions (worst case scenario) because he delayed any kind of national response to the pandemic.

Even now he’s failing to do anything to curb the spread. He’s left it to the haphazard approach of the states, which means that while SFO might be bending the curve, it’ll be overtaken by neighboring states that don’t - like Arizona.

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:41:08pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:41:40pm

re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He called it a fucking hoax.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:42:22pm

re: #332 jaunte

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We’re run by an ignorant, childish gangster

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stpaulbear  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:42:23pm

re: #253 plansbandc

Here’s the MN Iron Range version of that song. The band is based in Sparta, MN which was shut down by the mining company. Almost everyone who lived there was leasing their land from the mine. Rich Mattson’s converted church building was on privately held land, so he stayed in place.

Rich Mattson and the Northstars “This Town (Ghost Town)”

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:42:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:43:58pm

JFC, my congresscritter continues to be an asshat

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:44:23pm

re: #336 jaunte

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We’re worried about our family members getting sick you ratings addicted junkie.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:45:05pm

The hospital projections here: covid19.healthdata.org

… already look too conservative for some places. Example: projects Louisiana to have 39 deaths today, so far the count is 54, above the error bar on their estimate.

For the US today, the estimate is in the range of 638-781 with a most likely value of 719. The US count today is already at 709 (on UTC time)- after the day is over we’ll have a better count of today.

There will be a lot of daily variation, part of the natural variation in not only infections and deaths but the reporting system.

Still, I think modelers may have presumed Americans will follow lockdown orders more than is actually happening. I was at the grocery store this afternoon, and it seemed like the busiest it has been since state-wide lockdown started (on 19 Mar.) People will get antsy, and by next weekend I wonder how many people will just ignore shelter-at-home advice?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:45:48pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, my congresscritter continues to be an asshat

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I hope he gets sick and it’s painful. Objectivist dipshit. Once again fuck Ron and Rand Paul for making thinking like this acceptable in our political conversation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:48:06pm

BUILD THE WALL ! ! !

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:49:16pm

re: #339 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The hospital projections here: covid19.healthdata.org

… already look too conservative for some places. Example: projects Louisiana to have 39 deaths today, so far the count is 54, above the error bar on their estimate.

For the US today, the estimate is in the range of 638-781 with a most likely value of 719. The US count today is already at 709 (on UTC time)- after the day is over we’ll have a better count of today.

There will be a lot of daily variation, part of the natural variation in not only infections and deaths but the reporting system.

Still, I think modelers may have presumed Americans will follow lockdown orders more than is actually happening. I was at the grocery store this afternoon, and it seemed like the busiest it has been since state-wide lockdown started (on 19 Mar.) People will get antsy, and by next weekend I wonder how many people will just ignore shelter-at-home advice?

Lockdown and shelter in place is haphazard and not consistent, even within the states that have them. Some localities are doing better than others.

But there’s states with not even the bare minimum, and the effects of that will be felt for the rest of the year (and next).

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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:49:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:50:29pm

explains sooooooo much

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:50:31pm
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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:50:57pm

re: #341 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

What we can’t say or know is whether one of the Americans was a carrier there, and spread it to others, only to return home after.

TSA isn’t screening the departures - only on the arrivals for international flights, and domestic flights aren’t getting screened in any systematic way at all.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:52:19pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:52:55pm

re: #345 gocart mozart

Has anyone checked in with Flotus on her tennis pavilion? How is that coming?

Too soon. Next week is Infrastructure Week.

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William Lewis  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:55:52pm

Spent a little time testing the new to me D7100. It’s everything I liked in the D3200 and then some (real glass prism, better controls, etc). Me likey.

(Not sure why these aren’t upright like usual - they are in Photoshop.)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:56:47pm

Latest numbers from Idaho.

Confirmed Cases: 525 110 new
Deaths : 9 2 new
1 new confirmed case in my City/County.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:57:35pm

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re: #345 gocart mozart

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Hear she’s making cake for us to eat.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:57:41pm

re: #349 William Lewis

They are very nice.

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garzooma  Mar 31, 2020 • 4:58:10pm

re: #339 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The hospital projections here: covid19.healthdata.org

[…]

Still, I think modelers may have presumed Americans will follow lockdown orders more than is actually happening. I was at the grocery store this afternoon, and it seemed like the busiest it has been since state-wide lockdown started (on 19 Mar.) People will get antsy, and by next weekend I wonder how many people will just ignore shelter-at-home advice?

There’s a thread here by U of Washington Prof. Carl Bergstrom saying precisely this:

3. A few days later, my biggest concern remains around the framing of the model. This is a model of successful suppression of the epidemic. Moreover if I understand correctly, it assumes strong measures by all states with efficacy (if not severity) comparable to Wuhan.

4. The assumption underlying this model is that social distancing will be implemented and *will work*.

That makes this a best-case scenario model, in contrast with e.g. the first Imperial College model wherein suppression fails and 1.1 to 2.2 million Americans die.

5. My grave concern is that this distinction has is not being made in the news reports about the model, and that it is lost on or ignored by politicians eager to for a more optimistic forecast than Imperial College provided.

6. The shaded regions are being interpreted almost everywhere as spanning the best and worst case scenarios.

I believe they are instead something like uncertainty ranges on the best-case scenario of successful suppression.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:00:53pm

re: #345 gocart mozart

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:01:05pm

re: #353 garzooma

Yes, the model has rather significant uncertainty:

Compared to licensed capacity and average annual occupancy rates, excess demand from COVID-19 at the peak of the pandemic in the second week of April is predicted to be 64,175 (95% UI 7,977 to 251,059) total beds and 17,309 (95% UI 2,432 to 57,584) ICU beds. At the peak of the pandemic, ventilator use is predicted to be 19,481 (95% UI 9,767 to 39,674). The date of peak excess demand by state varies from the second week of April through May. We estimate that there will be a total of 81,114 deaths (95% UI 38,242 to 162,106) from COVID-19 over the next 4 months in the US. Deaths from COVID-19 are estimated to drop below 10 deaths per day between May 31 and June 6.

When your two sigma values span a factor of 4, then your data is highly noisy.

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:01:34pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:02:47pm

re: #353 garzooma

There’s a thread here by U of Washington Prof. Carl Bergstrom saying precisely this:

I was relying on that model for estimating when we might relax our family lockdown—hoped for a haircut in June. If it relies on everyone doing the right thing, I’m going to have hair down to my shaggy klarn before this is controlled.

Alabama will make it a point not to do everything right.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:03:20pm

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:03:31pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:04:34pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:04:54pm

My own experience today compared to the prior 8 days of the lockdown:

1) in the early morning the road noise was considerably more (this has something to do with the weather and the vertical temp profile, but the prior days were very quiet.)
2) local gas station had several cars at the pump (prior days there were at most one.)
3) grocery store parking lot was fuller than in prior days (and it’s only the middle of the week, so not a payday, and at the end of the month the grocery stores are quieter anyway because people have spent their budget before the last day of the month.)

I hope the populace just doesn’t give up.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:12:33pm

OK, that was weird. Whole house just shook in all 4 directions. Last time I felt something like that was when there was an earthquake down by Elko Nv. Scanner traffic is normal at this time. Like I said weird. And since I was looking out the window checking the weather I am pretty sure it wasn’t a wind gust or micro-burst.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:12:39pm

Does anyone here have a DIY solution for disinfection? I still have no Lysol although I do have Clorox Wipes. I know some folks use bleach and water solution but I do not know the amounts.

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:14:12pm

re: #363 PhillyPretzel

It’s 1/4 cup to a gallon of water.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:14:20pm

re: #363 PhillyPretzel

Does anyone here have a DIY solution for disinfection? I still have no Lysol although I do have Clorox Wipes. I know some folks use bleach and water solution but I do not know the amounts.

Four teaspoons per quart of water. (per CDC)

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lawhawk  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:14:37pm

re: #362 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Not sure of your location, but a 6.5 was reported in central Idaho.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:14:52pm

re: #363 PhillyPretzel

Does anyone here have a DIY solution for disinfection? I still have no Lysol although I do have Clorox Wipes. I know some folks use bleach and water solution but I do not know the amounts.

Watch the wipes. Not all Clorox wipes are the same. There are a couple CDC/EPA lists on line.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:15:12pm

re: #362 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

OK, that was weird. Whole house just shook in all 4 directions. Last time I felt something like that was when there was an earthquake down by Elko Nv. Scanner traffic is normal at this time. Like I said weird. And since I was looking out the window checking the weather I am pretty sure it wasn’t a wind gust or micro-burst.

M 6.5 - 72km W of Challis, Idaho
earthquake.usgs.gov

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:15:13pm

re: #364 jaunte

Okay. That I can follow. Regular Clorox and Water.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:16:28pm

re: #365 Rightwingconspirator

That one is even easier. Thanks. :)

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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:16:39pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:17:27pm

re: #349 William Lewis

Spent a little time testing the new to me D7100. It’s everything I liked in the D3200 and then some (real glass prism, better controls, etc). Me likey.

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(Not sure why these aren’t upright like usual - they are in Photoshop.)

The last photo I uploaded came out sideways. So I flipped it over and uploaded it again — sideways. So I flipped it back and uploaded it again — and then it was okay.

Go figure.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:18:52pm

We are all going to die

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:18:58pm

re: #362 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

OK, that was weird. Whole house just shook in all 4 directions. Last time I felt something like that was when there was an earthquake down by Elko Nv. Scanner traffic is normal at this time. Like I said weird. And since I was looking out the window checking the weather I am pretty sure it wasn’t a wind gust or micro-burst.

Just got this.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:20:29pm

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

M 6.5 - 72km W of Challis, Idaho
earthquake.usgs.gov

Army experience showed us that disasters never come in “1s”. A string of tornadoes passed 15 miles from here today, and we hardly went to the weather reports.

al.com

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:21:34pm

re: #362 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

OK, that was weird. Whole house just shook in all 4 directions. Last time I felt something like that was when there was an earthquake down by Elko Nv. Scanner traffic is normal at this time. Like I said weird. And since I was looking out the window checking the weather I am pretty sure it wasn’t a wind gust or micro-burst.

Near Boise Idaho? idahostatesman.com

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:23:33pm

re: #363 PhillyPretzel

Does anyone here have a DIY solution for disinfection? I still have no Lysol although I do have Clorox Wipes. I know some folks use bleach and water solution but I do not know the amounts.

Try this.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:28:17pm

re: #367 Decatur Deb

These are the ones I got the other day in my Acme.

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sagehen  Mar 31, 2020 • 5:55:38pm

re: #343 Dread Pirate

Trump concludes the more than two-hour-long press briefing by reassuring us that if there’s a scarcity of ventilators, he’ll be involved in making life or death decisions about which states get them

I do not find this reassuring.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:11:36pm

re: #266 Dave In Austin

Coward won’t say the numbers. Makes the Drs do it.

Wants to be able to deny he ever said the numbers.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 31, 2020 • 6:24:27pm

re: #362 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

OK, that was weird. Whole house just shook in all 4 directions. Last time I felt something like that was when there was an earthquake down by Elko Nv. Scanner traffic is normal at this time. Like I said weird. And since I was looking out the window checking the weather I am pretty sure it wasn’t a wind gust or micro-burst.

Saw a report of a 6.8 quake in Idaho.


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