The Bob Cesca Podcast: A Very Good Job

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Mitchell Greenberg Attorney at Law:

A Very Good Job — Not safe for work! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Haircut disasters and stay at home lockdowns; The internet community; Chris Cuomo tests positive; Stormy Daniels trolls Trump; Trump insists that 150,000 deaths will mean he’s done a good job; The Scotty Gambit; Bill Mitchell is a kook; Fox News is worried about lawsuits; The Truth Commission; Judge Walton is looking into Barr’s handling of the Mueller Report; With music by Brian Lisik and Rockolith; and more!

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518 comments

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:04:22pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:06:43pm

re: #1 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

After 9/11 we took a long hard look at what failed us to let that happen. Massive changes ensued. Nobody called that unpatriotic. Disrespectful to the President. Now? Such a discussion is not only off the table, but it also gets kicked out of the room at the federal level.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:08:09pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:11:05pm

re: #3 Belafon

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I still don’t understand what Gorka actually does. Sounds like he has people skills damn it and he deals with the goddamned customers.

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Citizen K  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:12:48pm

re: #1 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Incompetent at every damn level. Everything trump related is incompetent

Including the press coverage. I will never forgive our current press for their infinite capacity for rehabilitative malpractice.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:12:48pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:12:59pm

re: #4 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I still don’t understand what Gorka actually does. Sounds like he has people skills damn it and he deals with the goddamned customers.

Being a shouty right wing moron is a viable career path for some. That ass-cancer Rush Limbaugh sure made a fortune being a rancid piece of shit for decades.

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EPR-radar  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:14:16pm

re: #5 Citizen K

Including the press coverage. I will never forgive our current press for their infinite capacity for rehabilitative malpractice.

It’s deliberate. It has to be. Ownership must have made it clear that propping up the Great Both-Siderist Lie is the only job for nearly everyone in the political media.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:15:26pm

We’re up to the part of “Dark Shadows” where Laura Collins was defeated in killing David Collins in a fire so she could be reborn, Jason McGuire is introduced, and the set-up for Barnabas Collins is introduced (episode 210).

The show at the time spawned a soundtrack album and a Billboard Top 20 hit from that.

On that note, I’m off to watch more uplifting television than the Republicans are providing us. Catch y’all later… .

(2:44—“Opening Theme/Collinwood”)

OPENING THEME DARK SHADOWS / COLLINWOOD by The Robert Cobert Orchestra

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:17:10pm

re: #7 EPR-radar

Being a shouty right wing moron is a viable career path for some. That ass-cancer Rush Limbaugh sure made a fortune being a rancid piece of shit for decades.

Oh I know. It’s a very profitable model now more than ever. Gorka is such a hothead dick.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:19:09pm
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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:19:20pm
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jaunte  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:20:45pm

Idiocracy didn’t go far enough.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:21:46pm

re: #12 jaunte

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A propagandist to the end.

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sagehen  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:26:04pm

When NYC does our 2 minutes of noise at 7pm every day, I get that it’s supposed to coincide with shift change at the hospitals and let their staff know we’re thinking of them. But… I found it a really moving connection to my neighbors. People with balconies came outside, everybody else just leaned out the windows, yelling and clapping and banging pots and pans. It was a nice reminder of “we’re all in this together” from people who’ve been invisible all day.

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mmmirele  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:26:33pm

Not going to go into a huge amount of detail, but I came home today to find that my mortgage servicer has threatened me with foreclosure. I only received this notice out of the goodness of the Postal Service writing my unit number on the notification. This explains why I have not received statements for months and months. And yeah, I kept sending in the same amount because gee, not much has changed over the years.

I am *incandescent* with rage. I couldn’t get into their website because it’s a creaky, cranky mess (the kind of thing that would get my evil too big to fail employer in trouble). I was on hold for an hour waiting to talk to a representative. No, I was not nice when I finally got through. I was pissed. I told her to put in the log “borrower is going to rip out the lungs of everyone she talks to.” After I got off the call, I was finally able to log into the website to learn that they put forced place insurance on my property from the moment they bought the loan in March 2019 and they’re charging me late payments. I sent the guy who is handling the foreclosure several emails and a copy of my HOA’s certificate of insurance.

At no time did these asshats try to contact me by phone, and they have my cellphone number.

I am so ticked off that I have made it very clear that if they do not fix this to my satisfaction, I will report them to every state agency where they are licensed and I will sue them. Because I am a tech manager for a bank, I know it is a major cluster to screw up something this important as an address on payments. And I figure that this has been screwed up from the moment they took over the loan.

First World Problems…yeah.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:26:49pm
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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:28:06pm

re: #16 mmmirele

I think keeping your home is an every world problem.

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mmmirele  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:28:43pm

re: #18 Belafon

I think keeping your home is an every world problem.

Yeah, but the technical issue of leaving off the unit number in communications…that’s a first world problem.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:32:17pm

re: #19 mmmirele

Yeah, but the technical issue of leaving off the unit number in communications…that’s a first world problem.

That’s the trick Mnuchin’s bank did here in California…Prick loved foreclosing on mortgages…

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:36:38pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:36:43pm

re: #16 mmmirele

Not going to go into a huge amount of detail, but I came home today to find that my mortgage servicer has threatened me with foreclosure. I only received this notice out of the goodness of the Postal Service writing my unit number on the notification. This explains why I have not received statements for months and months. And yeah, I kept sending in the same amount because gee, not much has changed over the years.

I am *incandescent* with rage. I couldn’t get into their website because it’s a creaky, cranky mess (the kind of thing that would get my evil too big to fail employer in trouble). I was on hold for an hour waiting to talk to a representative. No, I was not nice when I finally got through. I was pissed. I told her to put in the log “borrower is going to rip out the lungs of everyone she talks to.” After I got off the call, I was finally able to log into the website to learn that they put forced place insurance on my property from the moment they bought the loan in March 2019 and they’re charging me late payments. I sent the guy who is handling the foreclosure several emails and a copy of my HOA’s certificate of insurance.

At no time did these asshats try to contact me by phone, and they have my cellphone number.

I am so ticked off that I have made it very clear that if they do not fix this to my satisfaction, I will report them to every state agency where they are licensed and I will sue them. Because I am a tech manager for a bank, I know it is a major cluster to screw up something this important as an address on payments. And I figure that this has been screwed up from the moment they took over the loan.

First World Problems…yeah.

You go. Sue them for all of us.

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dnlS  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:37:43pm

Link to newest update. Now has NY and CA as well as MI MA MS MO.
drive.google.com

IT vs US vs Germany VS France graphs are below. Cases numbers are slowing. Death rates are not so much as those in the system, or newer severe cases from home are getting worse. US is at 2% fatality of confirmed cases and rising slowly.

Moving doubling to 4 days (currently ~3.5) leads to 6.5k deaths on Friday. At a 5 day doubling rate 31k deaths are expected by April 15th (22k at 6 day). The projections of 100k, 200k, 300k before this first wave has reasonably ended - assuming we can keep our shit together - are not unreasonable.

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:38:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:38:32pm

LOL click through to the article:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:43:05pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:46:55pm

re: #26 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:47:19pm

re: #16 mmmirele

I’m so sorry! What a stress, when none of us need any more.

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:50:06pm
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dnlS  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:53:42pm

New cases per day in MA MI MS MO NY CA

Doubling rate based on a 4 day exponential fit. Less noisy than point to point. The rate slowing in NY is promising, because they are testing like crazy and shutting shit down. The MS data is questionable because neither of those things are true. Death rates are bad everywhere as we are just now seeing the beginning of the wave, which is further along (cases per million) in some areas.

NY and CA are stabilizing around 2% fatality per confirmed like the US overall. This will likely rise in the coming days as systems become overwhelmed. CA has been slower in new cases overall for awhile. NY had higher case doubling at first, but now is more similar to CA. NY death rate doubling remains very quick.

Overall, I mostly use the numbers now to consider what it will be like at home in a few days or a week based on another location. I compare/squint at NY, Italy, etc based on how I feel like the current conditions on the ground are. Importantly, you have to use the per capita (cases per million) to compare between places. A few more cases in MI do not mean things are worse, unless one considers the deaths per million. There are just too many differences in populations, health systems, and testing regimes to make too much sense of it. I’ll likely post again in a couple days or a week.

Stay in when you can. Plan your shopping carefully if you must go. Take your temp daily. Clean/quarantine what you bring in the house. Stay safe.

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austin_blue  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:54:36pm

re: #1 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Well, he’s consistent.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:54:38pm

These assholes are desperate to prove that Hydroxychloroquine is the cure. If it works 1% of the time they will be screaming from the rooftops. Sad.

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retired cynic  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:55:03pm

Illinois covid19 stats
Tuesday 3/31 35,225 tested (4779 new), 5994 positive (937 new), 99 deaths (26 new)

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teleskiguy  Mar 31, 2020 • 8:56:56pm
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Mike Lamb  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:00:22pm

re: #23 dnlS

Link to newest update. Now has NY and CA as well as MI MA MS MO.
drive.google.com

IT vs US vs Germany VS France graphs are below. Cases numbers are slowing. Death rates are not so much as those in the system, or newer severe cases from home are getting worse. US is at 2% fatality of confirmed cases and rising slowly.

Moving doubling to 4 days (currently ~3.5) leads to 6.5k deaths on Friday. At a 5 day doubling rate 31k deaths are expected by April 15th (22k at 6 day). The projections of 100k, 200k, 300k before this first wave has reasonably ended - assuming we can keep our shit together - are not unreasonable.

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How do you account for Florida or Mississippi, both of which have less than zero control over their respective situations?

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gocart mozart  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:05:30pm

I was not aware of this, both the stabbing and the allegations it was fake. Also, Bob Roberts was an awesome movie that is even more relevant today.

Bob Roberts (2/10) Movie CLIP - Fanatic Fans (1992) HD

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:05:43pm

Carry over from the last thread.

Dinner is served.

Time to carve.

Plated Up.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:06:15pm

Looking at the US chart on the google results, every state plus Puerto Rico is in at least triple digits on the number of known cases.

google.com

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:06:20pm

re: #32 I Would Prefer Not To

These assholes are desperate to prove that Hydroxychloroquine is the cure. If it works 1% of the time they will be screaming from the rooftops. Sad.

They’re desperate to prove it works because they want, nay need a “cure” soon. Why? Because the longer this all drags out, the more damage it does to Donny’s reelection chances. Double digit UE and a DJIA dragging the bottom? Those spell electoral doom for Donny and the party at large.

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dnlS  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:09:58pm

re: #35 Mike Lamb

Its hard to really account for them at all. Italy put in some measures early that were not enough, with too many people violating them, then cracked down when things got much worse. The fleeing of the people from the North after it was leaked that there would be a quarantine really didn’t help - fear does what it does. Why they have such high fatality’s vs France, Germany or elsewhere is unclear.

MS and Florida’s decisions to not shut down things will only delay what needs to be done. The spread will continue. Even if they are not testing (not sure how much Florida is) a percentage of people (10-20% depending on the demographic) will seek medical attention. Usually first symptoms (~90% fever) occur 4-5 days on average. Following this, those that do get worse will have trouble breathing 8-9 days later. They will seek medical attention and then its much harder to not count them as either a case or when there is not ICU/ventilator as a death.

I’ve heard FL has a reasonable amount of beds and has been getting all they requested from Trump, so they may fare better on their capacity. The amount of older individuals and the lack of controls now will work against them.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:12:50pm

re: #30 dnlS

I’m looking at this page, and if it’s not wildly optimistic, it suggests that California (a matter of great interest to me, since I live here) started early enough that we won’t be overwhelmed. Comforting, if true.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:18:53pm
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austin_blue  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:18:54pm

We are at 3700+ deaths today, we will probably bust 5,000 tomorrow, and will most likely bust 7,000 on Thursday. This is what an exponential curve looks like.

The service industry is pretty much dead. The gig economy is pretty much dead. Manufacturing is pretty much dead. If you can’t work from home, your job is pretty much dead.

Don’t be surprised if unemployment hits 30% really fast. Maybe three months.

It’s as bad as it can be and the knock-on effects will make it worse.

I’m for the rack. If you can, have sweet scaly dreams. If not, may you have no dreams. Better than nightmares, eh?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:20:31pm

Two More Covid-19 Cases Detected in the Panhandle (Goes to the Star-Herald in Scottsbluff, Nebr.)

That brings the total of cases in the Panhandle to four (one in Kimball County, three in Scott’s Bluff County). The two new cases are family members of the man in his 30s who was reported as positive yesterday.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:21:01pm

re: #40 dnlS

Its hard to really account for them at all. Italy put in some measures early that were not enough, with too many people violating them, then cracked down when things got much worse. The fleeing of the people from the North after it was leaked that there would be a quarantine really didn’t help - fear does what it does. Why they have such high fatality’s vs France, Germany or elsewhere is unclear.

MS and Florida’s decisions to not shut down things will only delay what needs to be done. The spread will continue. Even if they are not testing (not sure how much Florida is) a percentage of people (10-20% depending on the demographic) will seek medical attention. Usually first symptoms (~90% fever) occur 4-5 days on average. Following this, those that do get worse will have trouble breathing 8-9 days later. They will seek medical attention and then its much harder to not count them as either a case or when there is not ICU/ventilator as a death.

I’ve heard FL has a reasonable amount of beds and has been getting all they requested from Trump, so they may fare better on their capacity. The amount of older individuals and the lack of controls now will work against them.

One thing that helps account for Italy’s high death rate is that medical services were overwhelmed. They had to ration out care to those most likely to benefit from it. Another is the age of the population. And a third, harder to pin down, is testing and reporting. All through this, there were complaints that there wasn’t enough testing, so the cases reported were the more serious ones. Symptomatic at least, and maybe serious, and of course not counting the mild and asymptomatic cases will drive up the nominal death rate.

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Belafon  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:23:23pm

re: #43 austin_blue

We are at 3700+ deaths today, we will probably bust 5,000 tomorrow, and will most likely bust 7,000 on Thursday. This is what an exponential curve looks like.

The service industry is pretty much dead. The gig economy is pretty much dead. Manufacturing is pretty much dead. If you can’t work from home, your job is pretty much dead.

Don’t be surprised if unemployment hits 30% really fast. Maybe three months.

It’s as bad as it can be and the knock-on effects will make it worse.

I’m for the rack. If you can, have sweet scaly dreams. If not, may you have no dreams. Better than nightmares, eh?

There’s a few restaurants doing well on takeout here, Arboleda’s, Pizza Getti, and on the Border. I haven’t been to them all to see how they are doing. The El Chico just completely shut down when it started.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:35:21pm

This dude’s a trip

Boss DS 1 Distortion Review

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:36:08pm

It seems like forever since Donny said:

“We’re going to have Americans staying home instead of going and spending the money in other countries. And maybe that’s one of the reasons the job numbers are so good.”

That was March 6th, not even a full month having passed since he uttered those words.

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dnlS  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:43:21pm

re: #41 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Yeah, I like that site. I hope its not too optimistic. Even if it is, it gives a sense qualitatively between different areas.

If we were testing more, we’d get a better sense of what is going on. Test per capita or per confirmed based would be informative especially if one could also know admission rates. As systems are overwhelmed, milder cases (from reports) are told to go home. Are they counted? It may be better to test health care providers if testing is limited.

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dnlS  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:46:38pm

re: #45 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Yeah, this is why I really worry about our overall lack of testing. The quicker it catches up, the quicker those in charge can react accordingly - or maybe, just maybe people will listen.

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teleskiguy  Mar 31, 2020 • 9:54:27pm
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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:01:36pm

This should be a pleasant, cheerful distraction …

Scott Walker - The Seventh Seal

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teleskiguy  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:02:39pm
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William Lewis  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:04:47pm

Hmm. Amazing old TV show with a really wild pro-voting intro.

John Denver & Cass Elliot Leaving On A Jet Plane

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:10:09pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

“Do…do we have to hold Easter in April? Can’t we move it?”

“Yes, Mr. President, Easter traditionally happens in April and our voters will be unhappy if we move it.”

“Nonsense! They think I walk on water and shit gold! If I tell them Easter is in July, they’ll not only agree with me, they’ll dedicate the day in my honor! Where’s my sharpie!?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:12:08pm

Break from “Dark Shadows.”

For those who complain about network television having so many commercials, DS was a half-hour show.

Episode #211 (April 18, 1967) is the one where Willie Loomis breaks into the Collins’s mausoleum, finds a secret room, breaks into a coffin surrounded with chains, and frees Barnabas Collins.

The episode on the DVD includes all the original adverts.

How old do you feel? Which of these products do you recognise? (Drat, all of them Katie for me).

First break after the teaser:

Diaparene baby products
Lux dishsoap (with Dermasil!)
Lux bar soap (our regular brand here now)

Break after Act One

Diaparene
Cope (over-the-counter pain medication to relieve a “woman’s everyday nervous tension headache” with “gentle relaxer”)

Break after Act Two

Dream Whip
Gaines Meal (dog food, this was before Gaines Burgers)
Clariol Hair Dew (conditioner)
Windex (with new Ammonia-D!)

Break after Act Three

Princess Bar Soap
Armour Potted Meat Food Product

Before final credits

Woolite
Anacin

Voice-over credits: Plug for the “Joey Bishop Show” (tonight, in colour!)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:12:20pm

re: #55 Targetpractice

“Do…do we have to hold Easter in April? Can’t we move it?”

“Yes, Mr. President, Easter traditionally happens in April and our voters will be unhappy if we move it.”

“Nonsense! They think I walk on water and shit gold! If I tell them Easter is in July, they’ll not only agree with me, they’ll dedicate the day in my honor! Where’s my sharpie!?”

And the Xtians will be dumb enough to fall for that!

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Teukka  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:15:14pm

re: #16 mmmirele

It could also be the business idea of the outfit, buying old debts or loans, then making “mistakes” hoping people will pay up rather than contesting it.
Experienced it with the company that handled the financials for the condo association I rent my flat from, they outsourced things to that kind of firm. Us tenants and condo owners got sent bills (to the tune of $400-500 (4000-5000 SEK)) that we’d long since paid. Some googling on the company involved showed the same pattern, people getting bills sent to them that they had paid years ago, threatening foreclosure, enforcement etc. with the customary fees for such, the claims melting away if the customer potential mark appeared to have too good a check on their finances.
I informed the main firm handling the invoices and the condo association that ███████ ██████ appeared to be what’s known here as a “oseriöst företag” (rogue/frivolous company). Things were silent for a year or so, then it happened again. What made it worse was that many of tenants and condo owners have the fees and rents pulled automatically from our accounts at the end of the month.
When the condo associations chairman cleared his throat and asked the main firm handling invoices what the fuck was going on and got some lame excuse about having had a data breach.
And yeah, after some double-checking on part of our fearless leader, the association took its business elsewhere than the company (more than likely, it was in cahoots with the enforcement company). Not to mention that not too long later, the firm got its permit yanked in Finland for its business practises (and you really have to try to get your permit yanked).

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William Lewis  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:19:15pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon 🌹

And the Xtians will be dumb enough to fall for that!

Some will, as always. Others won’t as always. A broad brush splatters the user as much as it does what is being painted.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:21:52pm

re: #49 dnlS

Yeah, I like that site. I hope its not too optimistic. Even if it is, it gives a sense qualitatively between different areas.

If we were testing more, we’d get a better sense of what is going on. Test per capita or per confirmed based would be informative especially if one could also know admission rates. As systems are overwhelmed, milder cases (from reports) are told to go home. Are they counted? It may be better to test health care providers if testing is limited.

Yes, the real uncertainty is how many of the people who are exposed are really going to get it? The estimates I’ve seen are “30% to 70%,” which I still read as “haven’t a clue.” (About 20% of Diamond Princess passengers and crew were infected.)

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Cheechako  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:24:19pm

Covid-19 Numbers for Alaska - 1700 3/31/2020:

New Cases - 14
Total Cases - 133 (9 hospitalized)
Deaths - 9 (no change)

Juneau now has 9 cases.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:27:31pm

re: #58 Teukka

When we lived in Oklahoma, we had scammy debt collectors try to collect various debts from us (we had no debts).

The argument used was “well, this is the same address as [deadbeat], we can still put a lien on your house.”

Yeah, asshole, try that and we’ll see you in court.

That dance went on for several months.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:27:45pm

re: #50 dnlS

Yeah, this is why I really worry about our overall lack of testing. The quicker it catches up, the quicker those in charge can react accordingly - or maybe, just maybe people will listen.

I am troubled by the level of paranoia. The fact is that that only fairly close contact with an infected (and contagious) person is likely to do it — everything else is a really off chance. Also, even with the lack of testing, we can say that the diagnosis is most likely not a death sentence, even If you’re in a higher risk group. Better too paranoid than too casual, I guess, but I hate to see people scaring themselves to death.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:30:38pm

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Break from “Dark Shadows.”

For those who complain about network television having so many commercials, DS was a half-hour show.

Episode #211 (April 18, 1967) is the one where Willie Loomis breaks into the Collins’s mausoleum, finds a secret room, breaks into a coffin surrounded with chains, and frees Barnabas Collins.

The episode on the DVD includes all the original adverts.

How old do you feel? Which of these products do you recognise? (Drat, all of them Katie for me).

First break after the teaser:

Break after Act One

Break after Act Two

Break after Act Three

Before final credits

Voice-over credits: Plug for the “Joey Bishop Show” (tonight, in colour!)

Almost all of them (not Cope, diaparene or princess bar soap).

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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:32:36pm

re: #52 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

This should be a pleasant, cheerful distraction …

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WTF, I click on it and it goes to youtube, tells me it can only be played on youtube. I click that link and it works.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:34:05pm

…and I can’t hear it because watching Netflix switched me to DD and it won’t allow PCM stereo at the same time.

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whitebeach  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:36:30pm

re: #61 Cheechako

Cheech, even under the circumstances, it’s good to see your moniker again.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:44:09pm

re: #64 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Almost all of them (not Cope, diaparene or princess bar soap).

Cope isn’t sold any more. (Their trademark symbol was a female sex symbol.)

Out of curiosity, I went looking up the brand to see what happened to it. They were busted by the FTC for false advertising.

The specific relaxer they were claiming was so good was caffeine.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:45:18pm

Now who’s that guy trying to make a quick buck from The Beatles?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:48:08pm

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Mentioning Camay soap…I remember those risqué Camay commercials as a kid!

Something Weird Camay Soap Banned Animated TV Commercial #5

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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 10:51:36pm

re: #69 Joe Bacon 🌹

Now who’s that guy trying to make a quick buck from The Beatles?

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He really needs to embrace the grey.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:01:38pm

re: #70 Joe Bacon 🌹

That was an expensive ad! There’s an article on Cartoon Brew; some people think it was a Batchelor & Halas production. (They were an English animation studio famous for their “Animal Farm” film adaptation.)
Discussion on Cartoon Brew

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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:03:40pm

Why can’t Republicans run FEMA without fucking up?

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:08:10pm

re: #65 Dread Pirate

WTF, I click on it and it goes to youtube, tells me it can only be played on youtube. I click that link and it works.

Sorry about that; it worked in the preview

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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:15:27pm

re: #73 Dread Pirate

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Why can’t Republicans run FEMA without fucking up?

Because Trump or one of his underlings is probably telling FEMA to look the other way on those sales because the companies making them are raking in major cash. If sales were discouraged or even prohibited, then the prices that the companies involved could charge before running afoul of price-gouging charges would be way less than they can rob other countries for.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:18:08pm

While we’re discussing animated commercials, a few weeks ago, Robocop came up.

There was a short-lived Robocop TV series in the 1990’s. It wasn’t much to write home about, but the producers had Nelvana, the Canadian animation studio, make some commercials featuring Commander Cash, in the Robocop OCP universe.

They’re hilariously subversive, and they would fit right into Verhoeven’s film! Don’t miss the disclaimers on the “Sterettes” ad!

YouTube

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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:20:50pm
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Dread Pirate  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:29:04pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:32:07pm

re: #78 Dread Pirate

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That was always the inherent flaw in the “BUT IMPEACHMENT…!” strategy for the Repubs: The fact that the man they’re trying to defend has an ego with its own gravitational pull. To blame impeachment would mean admitting he didn’t do the very best job he could have. And his ego was never going to allow him to say that.

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Cheechako  Mar 31, 2020 • 11:37:00pm

re: #67 whitebeach

Cheech, even under the circumstances, it’s good to see your moniker again.

Been hanging out here just about every day. We’ve been quarantined about 2 weeks now. Actually, I’ve lost track of the days.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:11:54am
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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:28:26am

According to 3M, the world’s largest mask manufacturer, the KN95 is “equivalent” and “can be expected to function very similar” to the N95 mask. That opinion was echoed on Feb. 29 by the CDC, which said the KN95 is one of seven foreign-certified respirators “expected to provide protection to workers.”

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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:53:43am

I’m watching Freud on Netflix. I going to assume this is very fictionalized, but the HDR is good!

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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:58:00am
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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 1:07:04am

One thing I learned in sailing is Mother Nature doesn’t take kindly to a bunch of fuck-ups on water. People will get hurt, boats will be damaged or sunk.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 1, 2020 • 1:08:20am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 1, 2020 • 1:12:46am

Look at that, anticipating and adapting.
Man, hasn’t that been missing over three years

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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 1:17:08am
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DodgerFan1988  Apr 1, 2020 • 1:30:56am

Fox News is literally bad for your health.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 1, 2020 • 1:46:29am

re: #65 Dread Pirate

WTF, I click on it and it goes to youtube, tells me it can only be played on youtube. I click that link and it works.

The link uses the embed URL, to which Youtube is objecting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 1:46:39am

So today, Germany has 68K cases and 702 fatalities.

Again, the positive news is that the rate of doubling is now a week or more (33K /159 on March 24).

I got as far as the bakery today to fetch eggs and rolls.

Will probably walk into Bacharach on Friday for some groceries that I cannot get in our village.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 1, 2020 • 1:56:00am
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 1, 2020 • 1:59:17am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 1, 2020 • 2:00:40am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Um, Germany is up to 775 deaths, and 71.8k cases.

But it does appear as if their new cases are now in a linear and not an exponential phase.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 1, 2020 • 2:09:45am

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

All right, who the hell left that DVD of Kung Fu Panda at the zoo?

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 1, 2020 • 2:18:06am

re: #93 goddamnedfrank

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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 2:24:17am
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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 2:27:50am
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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 2:40:45am

It looks like somebody is fighting to keep oil above $20.00 a barrel. When it got down to $20.01, somebody bought it up to $20.70 but right after the purchase it collapsed back down to around $20.13.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 2:49:29am

Liberty Counsel To Represent Arrested Pastor, Claims Church Enforced Social Distancing (Video Says LOL) (Goes to Joe My God)

That would be the same Mat Staver who represented Kim Davis suing for the right not to do her job.

Via press release from hate group leader Mat Staver:

Liberty Counsel has agreed to represent Pastor Howard-Browne, who was taken into custody today. As the arrest was unfolding, the Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister held a press conference announcing the arrest.

During the press conference, State Attorney Andrew Warren quoted the Bible in Mark 12:31 (“There is no more important commandment than to love thy neighbor as thyself”).

(more)

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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 2:57:20am

Folding@Home is having a hard time keeping up with Covid-19 analysis and other projects with the increased interest in contributing. I’m having a hard time getting 50% use of the GPU on folding, and 25% for the CPU. I’ve been folding 24/7 for the last 3 weeks to help find a vaccine or an anti-viral agent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 3:10:35am

re: #101 Dread Pirate

Folding@Home is having a hard time keeping up with Covid-19 analysis and other projects with the increased interest in contributing. I’m having a hard time getting 50% use of the GPU on folding, and 25% for the CPU. I’ve been folding 24/7 for the last 3 weeks to help find a vaccine or an anti-viral agent.

Meanwhile, SETI@home on BOINC ended distributing blocks at midnight UTC 1 April.

My last two blocks are working off.

Rosetta@home (also a BOINC project I’ve run for years) is working on Covid-19 as well:

Thank you to all R@h volunteers for your contributions to help accurately model important coronavirus proteins. The collective computing power that you provide through R@h helps academic research groups world wide model important protein structures like these.

From a recent IPD news post:

“We are happy to report that the Rosetta molecular modeling suite was recently used to accurately predict the atomic-scale structure of an important coronavirus protein weeks before it could be measured in the lab. Knowledge gained from studying this viral protein is now being used to guide the design of novel vaccines and antiviral drugs.”

(more: BOINC Rosetta@home Main Page)

BOINC’s World Community Grid works on several humanitarian projects at a time, one of them being developing more effective treatments for tuberculosis (I have a vested interest in that outcome):

worldcommunitygrid.org

About BOINC and its projects, plus the software for various computer types:
boinc.berkeley.edu

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steve_davis  Apr 1, 2020 • 3:19:20am

re: #6 Belafon

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shit. you can kind of tell from the look on his face that he drew the jack of diamonds, and that the jack of diamonds is a hard card to play. (a little mance lipscomb for you this morning).

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ericblair  Apr 1, 2020 • 3:21:22am

The tobacco company saves your lungs. The Universe is just fucking with us now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 3:23:56am

re: #104 ericblair

The tobacco company saves your lungs. The Universe is just fucking with us now.

Whaddya bet the vaccine comes from tobacco?

Or with that huge sum of money Trump is trying to evade oversight on, they are trying to get their paws on part of it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 3:28:31am

Another pastor charged with violating government orders on social distancing, this time in Louisiana:

Louisiana Pastor Said He Violated Governor’s COVID-19 Order ‘Because the Lord Told Us to’ (Law and Crime)

I’ve seen several people ask “why don’t these guys just set up on-line donations?”

The issue is why a plate is passed in a church. All these guys already have on-line donations, as well as mail donations.

The point is applying guilt to someone who doesn’t donate. All churches do this to some degree: If the plate goes round the congregation and you don’t put money in it, other parishioners will see that, and to a greater or lesser degree the parishioners will shun you.

Those big megachurches cost a lot of money to run (never mind the Prosperity Gospel grift). They have to apply pressure to put money in the plate, far more than the little rural church in my town to keep the lights on.

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ericblair  Apr 1, 2020 • 3:29:24am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Whaddya bet the vaccine comes from tobacco?

Or with that huge sum of money Trump is trying to evade oversight on, they are trying to get their paws on part of it.

Apparently it’s developed in the tobacco plant; that was the way they produced the Zika vaccine (the BAT subsidiary company is apparently Kentucky Bioprocessing).

I did a bit of legwork and it looks reasonably legit, despite today’s date.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 3:29:51am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The point is applying guilt to someone who doesn’t donate. All churches do this to some degree: If the plate goes round the congregation and you don’t put money in it, other parishioners will see that, and to a greater or lesser degree the parishioners will shun you.

.

Their whole Svengali act is about fixing their eyes on you and making you squirm until you feel compelled to fork over. Does not work online.

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steve_davis  Apr 1, 2020 • 3:41:30am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Break from “Dark Shadows.”

For those who complain about network television having so many commercials, DS was a half-hour show.

Episode #211 (April 18, 1967) is the one where Willie Loomis breaks into the Collins’s mausoleum, finds a secret room, breaks into a coffin surrounded with chains, and frees Barnabas Collins.

The episode on the DVD includes all the original adverts.

How old do you feel? Which of these products do you recognise? (Drat, all of them Katie for me).

First break after the teaser:

Break after Act One

Break after Act Two

Break after Act Three

Before final credits

Voice-over credits: Plug for the “Joey Bishop Show” (tonight, in colour!)

Cope (over-the-counter pain medication to relieve a “woman’s everyday nervous tension headache” with “gentle relaxer”)

announcer: “When you need to go running to the shelter of your mother’s little helper.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 3:44:09am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Their whole Svengali act is about fixing their eyes on you and making you squirm until you feel compelled to fork over. Does not work online.

The last time I was in a church service was for the village attorney’s mother’s funeral Mass at the Catholic Church in the county seat.

I found it somewhat distasteful they passed along a collection plate for a funeral.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 1, 2020 • 3:51:33am

Samuel L. Jackson wants you to stay the fuck at home.

Samuel L. Jackson Says Stay the F**k at Home

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:03:34am

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steve_davis  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:03:37am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The last time I was in a church service was for the village attorney’s mother’s funeral Mass at the Catholic Church in the county seat.

I found it somewhat distasteful they passed along a collection plate for a funeral.

very much so. funerals are private affairs. priests get paid by the family to perform them, just like weddings. Dad would have been mortified.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:08:21am

More Law & Crime

Federal Court Tosses Florida’s Poll Tax; Formerly Incarcerated People Can Vote in 2020

The plaintiffs (Florida) tried to force the issue into a two-part argument:

a) that felons saving up money to pay fines and court fees was not a substantial burden on their rights, and

b) tried to force the argument into racism territory using the arguments of civil rights groups that the law was racist in nature, so they could argue against that (because white felons were disenfranchised, too).

The court ignored (b) because the lawyers representing the disenfranchised felons didn’t make that argument, instead noting that the the franchise would be applied for those who could pay money, therefore it was unequal treatment under the law due to wealth, and therefore a poll tax.

(a) was dispatched, as the court found that a vote is not a “thing of value” and therefore could not be taken for a debt. They noted that the voters would be disenfranchised over and over again if they were poor and could not pay.

The court decision was unanimous. It is unlikely to be taken up by the Supreme Court in this session, so the law cannot be applied to the 2020 election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:08:29am

re: #112 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:10:24am

re: #87 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Look at that, anticipating and adapting.
Man, hasn’t that been missing over three years

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Expect yelling and screaming from the Berners shortly. Hard to be loud and bullying when everyone else can mute your ass by pressing a button.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:10:50am

re: #112 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:11:07am

re: #112 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:12:40am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:14:07am

Josh Bernstein Actually Thinks Trump is Handling This Pandemic (Goes to Utah Outcasts, 12:22, caution for coarse language)

Josh Bernstein Actually Thinks Trump is Handling This Pandemic

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:14:35am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:14:48am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Another pastor charged with violating government orders on social distancing, this time in Louisiana:

Louisiana Pastor Said He Violated Governor’s COVID-19 Order ‘Because the Lord Told Us to’ (Law and Crime)

I’ve seen several people ask “why don’t these guys just set up on-line donations?”

The issue is why a plate is passed in a church. All these guys already have on-line donations, as well as mail donations.

The point is applying guilt to someone who doesn’t donate. All churches do this to some degree: If the plate goes round the congregation and you don’t put money in it, other parishioners will see that, and to a greater or lesser degree the parishioners will shun you.

Those big megachurches cost a lot of money to run (never mind the Prosperity Gospel grift). They have to apply pressure to put money in the plate, far more than the little rural church in my town to keep the lights on.

Also, amount of on-line donations is traceable. Amount on the plate is just the amount the person afterwards says it is - if they ever report the total.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:15:45am

re: #118 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:31:13am

re: #122 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Also, amount of on-line donations is traceable. Amount on the plate is just the amount the person afterwards says it is - if they ever report the total.

If the money goes to the church or its functions only, that is not a problem, as churches are not required to report income and expenses on an IRS Form 990. (Some churches do, but many don’t.)

It does make it much harder to see who is skimming from the collection plate beyond what salary a church might pay to its employees.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:32:59am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:40:03am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:43:13am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:46:06am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡

If the money goes to the church or its functions only, that is not a problem, as churches are not required to report income and expenses on an IRS Form 990. (Some churches do, but many don’t.)

It does make it much harder to see who is skimming from the collection plate beyond what salary a church might pay to its employees.

Sort of annoying how large groups use facets of law designed to help smaller, or volunteer, groups to get by in order to skirt laws and abuse things. Small churches, businesses, or farms don’t have a lot of extra time, resources, manpower to deal with the accounting and other requirements to track finances and so forth that closely - generally busy living hand-to-mouth.

Makes me want to have these laws adjusted based on scale of the enterprise - and perhaps how they are organized/incorporated as well. But that’s a whole additional set of bureaucracy and some convoluted tracking in terms of the latter. And political activities by churches need to be examined more closely as well - there are constitutional protections for free speech and such, but also claiming special privileges should imply additional responsibility (or perhaps additional scrutiny.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:46:52am

re: #126 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:49:45am

re: #128 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Religious organisations are explicitly exempt in the tax code from reporting income and expenditures. They are not really skirting the law when they do not report, because they are not required to (much in the same manner I don’t file income tax forms because I am not required to).

Where it becomes a problem is when they use the explicit exemption in the law to perpetrate fraud (such as Kent Hovind with his multi-million dollar mansion he tried to write off as a parsonage, or Jim Bakker skimming from the PTL Club).

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:54:17am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Religious organisations are explicitly exempt in the tax code from reporting income and expenditures. They are not really skirting the law when they do not report, because they are not required to (much in the same manner I don’t file income tax forms because I am not required to).

Where it becomes a problem is when they use the explicit exemption in the law to perpetrate fraud (such as Kent Hovind with his multi-million dollar mansion he tried to write off as a parsonage, or Jim Bakker skimming from the PTL Club).

Which I think is my point. At some scale of operations the exemption should cease. (Though someone skimming thousands from a small church is just as destructive to it as someone skimming millions from a larger organization.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:58:20am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Religious organisations are explicitly exempt in the tax code from reporting income and expenditures. They are not really skirting the law when they do not report, because they are not required to (much in the same manner I don’t file income tax forms because I am not required to).

Where it becomes a problem is when they use the explicit exemption in the law to perpetrate fraud (such as Kent Hovind with his multi-million dollar mansion he tried to write off as a parsonage, or Jim Bakker skimming from the PTL Club).

In Germany, the Bishop of Limburg built a 30-million-euro residence out of church funds he had “redirected”, the trick was to keep each individual invoice under 250K, above which they would have been subjected to further scrutiny by the Vatican.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 4:58:33am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:00:03am

Gaa, this drew a comment from me.

Nebraska officials: Shooting death appears to be accidental (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald):

GORDON, Neb. (AP) — The Nebraska State Patrol and Sheridan County Sheriff’s Office are investigating a shooting death from earlier this month that officials believe was accidental.

The patrol said in a news release Tuesday that the shooting happened on March 15 at a home in Gordon in northwestern Nebraska. Initial investigation shows that Shanita Anderson, 44, of Gordon, was killed in an accidental discharge of a gun at the home, the patrol said. No other details of how the shooting happened were released.

Sheridan County is the county northeast of mine.

My comment (awaiting approval for some reason):

There is no such thing as an accidental shooting, unless a firearm malfunctioned. There are only deliberate shootings, and negligent shootings. The NRA’s own safety rules say you should maintain control of your firearm at all times, and a so-called “accidental shooting” is evidence the firearm was not under control.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:04:24am

Guns don’t kill people, unless it’s by accident?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:06:19am

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Germany, the Bishop of Limburg built a 30-million-euro residence out of church funds he had “redirected”, the trick was to keep each individual invoice under 250K, above which they would have been subjected to further scrutiny by the Vatican.

The nickname given that guy: “The Bishop of Bling.”

That’s a lot of money for one house. You could probably buy my whole county for €30,000,000.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:11:45am

The two family members exposed by the 30-something man in Scottsbluff to coronavirus (a woman in her fifties and a man in his seventies) are now showing positive symptoms for Covid-19 disease. They have been placed in quarantine.

Additionally, the man in the hospital in Kimball who was exposed to the virus in Colorado gave Panhandle Public Health District a list of the places he visited (a bunch of stores, a church, and two restaurants), so contact tracing is underway there as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:13:57am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The nickname given that guy: “The Bishop of Bling.”

That’s a lot of money for one house. You could probably buy my whole county for €30,000,000.

Not to mention how far that money would go in aiding the poor and displaced in Africa or Central America…

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Decatur Deb  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:19:10am

If you’ll just excuse me, I’ll be up on my pillar meditating for the next few weeks. It’s more than 2 meters high and gets good broadband.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:21:14am

re: #137 Anymouse 🌹🏡

NE is doing a very good job from everything your saying. You’re very lucky that your governor is both competent and Republican (usually an oxymoron).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:22:16am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:22:46am

Panhandle Public Health District previously closed all schools in the Panhandle until May 1.

In light of the cases now here (four), they have closed school for the rest of the school year.

Schools which have the capability to provide on-line lessons are doing so; schools which do not are either working with those schools or providing alternative work-at-home packages for students.

Additionally, public libraries in the Panhandle are also helping with distribution of lesson packets for students (including my town’s library).

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:23:22am

re: #16 mmmirele

Very late to this thread, but I lost my house in 2010 for this very reason. I was living in Costa Rica at the time but rented my house out and had a US PO box that my mother in law checked regularly for us. I never received any notice about forced insurance changing my payment amount, and only learned of the pending foreclosure auction when my tenant opened a notice that went to the house. When I called my mortgage company I found that a) my mailing address had been changed to a residential address in the same town as my P.O. box (and was not a place I knew), and b) by this time I owed more than $6k in penalties, fees, etc. I tried to fight it from Costa Rica but the process was already too far along. Plus I didn’t have the $6k they said I had to cough up to keep the house.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:24:30am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:26:29am

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡

When all of this is over, I expect to see this become the norm for public schools. No more school shootings. Nor sure how parents will cope since kids need supervision, but I’m struggling to see physical schools going forward.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:26:58am

re: #144 Patricia Kayden

these are not the words and actions of a leader.

they are the utterances of someone who is hopelessly in over his head

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:27:14am

re: #140 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

NE is doing a very good job from everything your saying. You’re very lucky that your governor is both competent and Republican (usually an oxymoron).

Governor Ricketts gave wide latitude to public health departments and municipalities across the state to issue directives to try to clamp down on the virus. They won’t stop it but will hopefully slow the spread to avoid overwhelming clinics and hospitals.

Additionally, where municipalities are reticent to apply strict controls, he’s shown he’s willing to use his gubernatorial bully pulpit for them.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:29:35am

re: #145 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

When all of this is over, I expect to see this become the norm for public schools. No more school shootings. Nor sure how parents will cope since kids need supervision, but I’m struggling to see physical schools going forward.

The custodial school is pretty much wired into the 2-job family demanded by post-1950’s capitalism. The workers’ guttersnipes have to be somewhere.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:32:55am

re: #145 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

When all of this is over, I expect to see this become the norm for public schools. No more school shootings. Nor sure how parents will cope since kids need supervision, but I’m struggling to see physical schools going forward.

This might also drive forward an initiative for widespread rural broadband service, to accommodate rural education.

Back when I was a teenager, Canada used to have shortwave service for rural education in the north of the country.

For places where rural broadband might be prohibitive in cost or time to deploy, I can also see radio (probably AM) used for educational purposes as well.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:38:30am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🏡

This might also drive forward an initiative for widespread rural broadband service, to accommodate rural education.

Back when I was a teenager, Canada used to have shortwave service for rural education in the north of the country.

For places where rural broadband might be prohibitive in cost or time to deploy, I can also see radio (probably AM) used for educational purposes as well.

Starlink is supposed to fix that. All we lose is a chunk of earthbound astronomy.

starlink.com

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garzooma  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:42:04am

I just saw this on Facebook. Haven’t seen it posted here yet. Note the date.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:52:05am

re: #151 garzooma

I just saw this on Facebook. Haven’t seen it posted here yet. Note the date.

File under “when you really don’t want your prophecy to come true.”

I’m going to head off to bed. It’s past sunrise, that’s my cue.

Catch y’all later.

Giphy

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:53:41am

re: #151 garzooma

I just saw this on Facebook. Haven’t seen it posted here yet. Note the date.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 1, 2020 • 5:57:40am

re: #104 ericblair

[Embedded content]

The tobacco company saves your lungs. The Universe is just fucking with us now.

This to be followed shortly by news that tobacco companies have had the cure for lung cancer for years…

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:00:53am

So their parents were grifters. Makes sense now.

156
Kilroy was here  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:03:24am

Today is April 1st.
Any news that appears to be to good to be true… it is most likely a sad “prank”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:14:42am

re: #156 Kilroy was here

Today is April 1st.
Any news that appears to be to good to be true… it most likely a sad “prank”.

This one was funny:

Scotland first country to ban sale of alcohol due to COVID-19 outbreak

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:15:19am

Congrats, we crossed the 1000 Benghazi plateau early today.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:18:03am

re: #156 Kilroy was here

Today is April 1st.
Any news that appears to be to good to be true… it most likely a sad “prank”.

Apr 1st is the key anniversary for Wife and I. It’s the day in 1967 when we first noticed each other, in the course of a mildly felonious parachute club convoy to a dropzone in Xenia OH.

Edited for the correct year.

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wrenchwench  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:29:53am

re: #155 Barefoot Grin

So their parents were grifters. Makes sense now.

[Embedded content]

Their parents were televangelists who hocked colon cleansers, fat binders and wreaths that allegedly warded off witchcraft.

‘Hawked’, otherwise it is reverse-grifting, or something.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:30:15am

re: #158 lawhawk

Congrats, we crossed the 1000 Benghazi plateau early today.

Wingnuts: 4 deaths overseas that happened in a span of hours are a crime; 240k plus deaths over a period of months that we saw coming and could have prevented are just, eh, people die, OK?

////

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:36:04am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:37:59am

re: #162 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Two days after Viktor Orbán suspended what remains of Hungary’s democracy, America has yet to utter a word. Pompeo gave a press briefing today without bothering to mention the death of a democracy in Europe. If Trump has any instinct on Orbán, it’s probably envy.

The EU is too busy with life-and-death matters to address Orbán right now, but I do hope they put it on the agenda as soon as they have some “breathing room”…

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:38:02am

re: #104 ericblair

[Embedded content]

The tobacco company saves your lungs. The Universe is just fucking with us now.

British American Tobacco, or BAT.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:38:31am

re: #104 ericblair

[Embedded content]

The tobacco company saves your lungs. The Universe is just fucking with us now.

April fools!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:39:20am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The EU is too busy with life-and-death matters to address Orbán right now, but I do hope they put it on the agenda as soon as they have some “breathing room”…

Fair enough, but I do wish the EU had said something to the effect of, “Of course, we have quite pressing matters right now, but rest assured, Hungary will be dealt with….severely.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:39:43am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The EU is too busy with life-and-death matters to address Orbán right now, but I do hope they put it on the agenda as soon as they have some “breathing room”…

Trump never will though, except to express his admiration for how “tough” and “strong” Orban is.

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Skip Intro  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:40:00am

Hey, look, it’s infrastructure week again!

cnbc.com

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:40:08am
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makeitstop  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:41:41am

I had a thought this morning.

You know who has completely gone to ground? Disappeared without a trace? Gone with the wind?

Mick Mulvaney. Did he die or something? He hasn’t been seen since he spread germs all over the stage at CPAC.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:42:04am

re: #169 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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Absolutely. He dismissed this repeatedly. We deserve to know the truth of what happened and why.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:42:19am

re: #170 makeitstop

I had a thought this morning.

You know who has completely gone to ground? Disappeared without a trace? Gone with the wind?

Mick Mulvaney. Did he die or something? He hasn’t been seen since he spread germs all over the stage at CPAC.

Got shipped off to some ambassadorship somewhere.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:42:32am

re: #125 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The hashtag: #MitchPlease

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:43:44am

re: #170 makeitstop

I had a thought this morning.

You know who has completely gone to ground? Disappeared without a trace? Gone with the wind?

Mick Mulvaney. Did he die or something? He hasn’t been seen since he spread germs all over the stage at CPAC.

Yeah I was thinking the same about Rudy Giuliani until I saw someone post a Rudy tweet a week or so back.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:44:34am

re: #169 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:46:45am

re: #145 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

When all of this is over, I expect to see this become the norm for public schools. No more school shootings. Nor sure how parents will cope since kids need supervision, but I’m struggling to see physical schools going forward.

Physical schools will start back up for many reasons. They are daycares, they are places for kids to get together, and most kids are not self-motivated enough to learn on their own. People and kids are tolerating this because it’s an emergency. This is one thing that will not become the norm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:48:47am

re: #176 Belafon

Physical schools will start back ho for many reasons. They are daycares, they are places for kids to get together, and most kids are not self-motivated enough to learn on their own. People and kids are tolerating this because it’s an emergency. This is one thing that will not become the norm.

I hope that a lot of parents will gain a clearer perspective of the very important role that teachers play in society.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:50:46am

Thought I’d check Fox News coverage this morning. They have a NYC doctor on actually telling the truth of the horror in his hospital. Next story coming up: cases in Louisiana are surging and they are critically short of medical supplies. Reality is crashing through.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:50:53am

re: #176 Belafon

Physical schools will start back ho for many reasons. They are daycares, they are places for kids to get together, and most kids are not self-motivated enough to learn on their own. People and kids are tolerating this because it’s an emergency. This is one thing that will not become the norm.

And parents will go back to work.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:52:20am

re: #178 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Thought I’d check Fox News coverage this morning. They have a NYC doctor on actually telling the truth of the horror in his hospital. Next story coming up: cases in Louisiana are surging and they are critically short of medical supplies. Reality is crashing through.

Wow, amazing. Reality at last intrudes.

But at least it’s all the Dems fault because Impeachment and empty stockpiles. ////

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makeitstop  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:52:41am

re: #172 Sir John Barron

Got shipped off to some ambassadorship somewhere.

I just did a news search for Mulvaney. Top story was how he got tested for COVID 19 twice. First time in February.

Check the lead paragraph. So much weirdness.

Mick Mulvaney, the former acting White House chief of staff, was tested twice for coronavirus despite exhibiting no symptoms, The Washington Post reports.

Mulvaney was first tested in February. He was scheduled to accompany President Trump on his visit to India, but prior to leaving said he felt sick. Although the test came back negative, Mulvaney did not join Trump on the trip. He was tested again this month after his niece, who shares an apartment with him, showed COVID-19 coronavirus symptoms after visiting Mar-a-Lago and meeting members of a Brazilian delegation who later tested positive for the virus, the Post reports.

1. Tested in February. You know, back when nobody at the White House knew anything about the disease. //

2. Shares an apartment with his niece? Kinda strange, but OK.

3. Niece showed symptoms after going to Corona-Lago and meeting the Brazilians who all came down with the disease. Does she have a job in the administration?

I’m betting he’s the new ambassador of ICU-istan.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:53:26am

re: #180 Sir John Barron

Wow, amazing. Reality at last intrudes.

But at least it’s all the Dems fault because Impeachment and empty stockpiles. ////

Except the part where Trump said that impeachment didnt affect his response.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:53:37am

re: #180 Sir John Barron

Wow, amazing. Reality at last intrudes.

But at least it’s all the Dems fault because Impeachment and empty stockpiles. ////

Stockpiles Trump emptied to send to China.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:54:23am

re: #156 Kilroy was here

I think I’ve got one for you. This is…hoo boy. Be sure to click through to read the second screenshot.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:55:41am

re: #184 Flying Squirrel Girl

I think I’ve got one for you. This is…hoo boy. Be sure to click through to read the second screenshot.

Winning

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lizardofid  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:56:58am

Good morning!

I’ve been seeing these, in news clips from hospitals full of covid-19 patients. Apparently, “these helmets can help get oxygen into a COVID-19 patient’s lungs too damaged to function normally but doesn’t require intubation like a ventilator”. This little company makes hyperbaric equipment just outside of Dallas. Learn something every day. And forget a couple of things. ; (

Link

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Kilroy was here  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:57:12am
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jeffreyw  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:57:25am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:58:02am

re: #184 Flying Squirrel Girl

I think I’ve got one for you. This is…hoo boy. Be sure to click through to read the second screenshot.

whoa, that landlord has really shot himself in the foot.

and this needs to spread to every tenant affected by COVID.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 6:59:10am

I know there are some WH40K fans who are also Lizards. A guy in the UK using the nick “Drachinifel” does short videos on naval ships, plus some longer Q/A stuff on naval history.

One of his offerings today:

Emperor class - Guide 40,000

His other video today was a 20 minute discussion of a surmised design of HMS Thunderchild of War of the Worlds fame - along with some interesting artwork.

191
Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:00:01am

Keep America Gre…

How’s that working out I wonder.

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stpaulbear  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:01:26am

re: #178 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Thought I’d check Fox News coverage this morning. They have a NYC doctor on actually telling the truth of the horror in his hospital. Next story coming up: cases in Louisiana are surging and they are critically short of medical supplies. Reality is crashing through.

One of my doctors yesterday was phoo-phooing the shortages in New York. I was kind of pissed at him for saying it yesterday and I’m more pissed today. I can agree with his concern about hospitals closing down other operations in order to be ready for a covid-19 spike, but he really downplayed how under equipped most locations are and how vulnerable everybody is.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:02:37am

re: #191 Sir John Barron

Keep America Gre…

How’s that working out I wonder.

Are we winning yet?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:03:21am

the other talking point is how liberals are “delighting” in news of people dying because “it makes Trump look bad”…

that is an amazing bit of pretzel logic.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:03:30am

re: #192 stpaulbear

One of my doctors yesterday was phoo-phooing the shortages in New York. I was kind of pissed at him for saying it yesterday and I’m more pissed today. I can agree with his concern about hospitals closing down other operations in order to be ready for a covid-19 spike, but he really downplayed how under equipped most locations are and how vulnerable everybody is.

Trump went from praising Xi to pushing conspiracy theories about China.

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ericblair  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:08:25am

re: #165 NO SMOCKING GUN!

April fools!

No, actually it’s not, although I bet the journalists were paranoid about it.

Guess what, neither is this:

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lizardofid  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:10:27am

re: #192 stpaulbear

One of my doctors yesterday was phoo-phooing the shortages in New York. I was kind of pissed at him for saying it yesterday and I’m more pissed today. I can agree with his concern about hospitals closing down other operations in order to be ready for a covid-19 spike, but he really downplayed how under equipped most locations are and how vulnerable everybody is.

For the sake of all, I hope karma leaves him the f’ alone.

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lizardofid  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:13:04am

re: #196 ericblair

No, actually it’s not, although I bet the journalists were paranoid about it.

Guess what, neither is this:

[Embedded content]

I was relieved to hear that the tail gunner got out ok!

; )

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:14:12am

re: #192 stpaulbear

One of my doctors yesterday was phoo-phooing the shortages in New York. I was kind of pissed at him for saying it yesterday and I’m more pissed today. I can agree with his concern about hospitals closing down other operations in order to be ready for a covid-19 spike, but he really downplayed how under equipped most locations are and how vulnerable everybody is.

When your doctor is more clueless than Fox News, you might want to get another doctor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:14:12am

re: #198 lizardofid

I was relieved to hear that the tail gunner got out ok!

; )

I have images of Mike riding along in the shipment of meth for his boss in Breaking Bad

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Kilroy was here  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:14:50am

Boston Globe nukes Trump…

bostonglobe.com
A president unfit for a pandemic
Much of the suffering and death coming was preventable. The president has blood on his hands.

“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold,” wrote W.B. Yeats in 1919. A century later, it’s clear: The epicenter cannot hold. Catastrophic decisions in the White House have doomed the world’s richest country to a season of untold suffering.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:15:10am

The Social Distancing Culture War Has Begun

For Geoff Frost, the first sign of the coronavirus culture war came last weekend on the golf course. His country club, located in an affluent suburb of Atlanta, had recently introduced a slew of new policies to encourage social distancing. The communal water jugs were gone, the restaurant was closed, and golfers had been asked to limit themselves to one person per cart. Frost, a 43-year-old Democrat, told me the club’s mix of younger liberals and older conservatives had always gotten along just fine—but the guidelines were proving divisive.

At the driving range, while Frost and his like-minded friends slathered on hand sanitizer and kept six feet apart, the white-haired Republicans seemed to delight in breaking the new rules. They made a show of shaking hands, and complained loudly about the “stupid hoax” being propagated by virus alarmists. When their tee times were up, they piled defiantly into golf carts, shoulder to shoulder, and sped off toward the first hole.

Frost felt conflicted. He wanted to encourage the men, some of whom he’d known for years, to be more careful. “I care about their well-being,” he told me. “But it’s a tough call, just personally, because it’s become a political thing.”

For a brief moment earlier this month, it seemed as if social distancing might be the one new part of American life that wasn’t polarized along party lines. Schools were closed in red states and blue; people across the political spectrum retreated into their home. Though President Donald Trump had played down the pandemic at first, he was starting to take the threat more seriously—and his media allies followed suit. Reminders to wash your hands and avoid crowds became commonplace on both Fox News and MSNBC. Those who chose to ignore this guidance—the spring-breakers clogging beaches, the revelers on Bourbon Street—appeared to do so for apolitical reasons. For the most part, it seemed, everyone was on the same page.

The consensus didn’t last long. Trump, having apparently grown impatient with all the quarantines and lockdowns, began last week to call for a quick return to business as usual. “WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” he tweeted, in characteristic caps lock. Speaking to Fox News, he added that he would “love” to see businesses and churches reopened by Easter. Though Trump would later walk them back, the comments set off a familiar sequence—a Democratic backlash, a pile-on in the press, and a rush in MAGA-world to defend the president. As the coronavirus now emerges as another front in the culture war, social distancing has come to be viewed in some quarters as a political act—a way to signal which side you’re on.

Further down in the article they quote someone from LOUISIANA of all places saying that a current Shelter In Place order in her area is “government overreach”.

This is what Fox News and Rush Limbaugh have done to our society.

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makeitstop  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:15:54am

(Spoiler alert: They told FEMA to fuck themselves and sent the masks out on their own.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:16:45am

re: #203 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

(Spoiler alert: They told FEMA to fuck themselves and sent the masks out on their own.)

I endorse this approach.

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makeitstop  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:17:39am

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

I endorse this approach.

Me, too. Cut out the middleman - who in most cases is probably a member of the Trump family. Or a ranking cult member.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:18:49am

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

The Social Distancing Culture War Has Begun

For Geoff Frost, the first sign of the coronavirus culture war came last weekend on the golf course. His country club, located in an affluent suburb of Atlanta, had recently introduced a slew of new policies to encourage social distancing. The communal water jugs were gone, the restaurant was closed, and golfers had been asked to limit themselves to one person per cart. Frost, a 43-year-old Democrat, told me the club’s mix of younger liberals and older conservatives had always gotten along just fine—but the guidelines were proving divisive.

At the driving range, while Frost and his like-minded friends slathered on hand sanitizer and kept six feet apart, the white-haired Republicans seemed to delight in breaking the new rules. They made a show of shaking hands, and complained loudly about the “stupid hoax” being propagated by virus alarmists. When their tee times were up, they piled defiantly into golf carts, shoulder to shoulder, and sped off toward the first hole.

Frost felt conflicted. He wanted to encourage the men, some of whom he’d known for years, to be more careful. “I care about their well-being,” he told me. “But it’s a tough call, just personally, because it’s become a political thing.”

For a brief moment earlier this month, it seemed as if social distancing might be the one new part of American life that wasn’t polarized along party lines. Schools were closed in red states and blue; people across the political spectrum retreated into their home. Though President Donald Trump had played down the pandemic at first, he was starting to take the threat more seriously—and his media allies followed suit. Reminders to wash your hands and avoid crowds became commonplace on both Fox News and MSNBC. Those who chose to ignore this guidance—the spring-breakers clogging beaches, the revelers on Bourbon Street—appeared to do so for apolitical reasons. For the most part, it seemed, everyone was on the same page.

The consensus didn’t last long. Trump, having apparently grown impatient with all the quarantines and lockdowns, began last week to call for a quick return to business as usual. “WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” he tweeted, in characteristic caps lock. Speaking to Fox News, he added that he would “love” to see businesses and churches reopened by Easter. Though Trump would later walk them back, the comments set off a familiar sequence—a Democratic backlash, a pile-on in the press, and a rush in MAGA-world to defend the president. As the coronavirus now emerges as another front in the culture war, social distancing has come to be viewed in some quarters as a political act—a way to signal which side you’re on.

Further down in the article they quote someone from LOUISIANA of all places saying that a current Shelter In Place order in her area is “government overreach”.

This is what Fox News and Rush Limbaugh have done to our society.

Houston , Texas area pastors are suing to reverse a local order barring in-person church services as violations of their religious liberty. FREEEEDUMB!

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:19:52am

re: #205 makeitstop

Me, too. Cut out the middleman - who in most cases is probably a member of the Trump family. Or a ranking cult member.

FEMA shouldn’t be a middleman. FEMA should have been on top of who’s making what, and telling places where their product should go before they even get finished. The fact that you have to negotiate with FEMA means they’ve failed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:22:10am

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

The Social Distancing Culture War Has Begun

The President himself called it a hoax and downplayed it.

Now these are people who cannot bring themselves to back down even in the light of facts, especially when other crackerjack pundits and preachers are kissing Trumpian ass by echoing his words even when they have already been overtaken by events.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:24:37am

Trump and Trump allies dismissing this has made things worse. And Biden looks wise. He was writing an oped about this when most people wrote his candidacy off. I’m happy with Biden as the presumptive nominee because Biden knows wtf is going on.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:25:12am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The President himself called it a hoax and downplayed it.

Now these are people who cannot bring themselves to back down even in the light of facts, especially when other crackerjack pundits and preachers are kissing Trumpian ass by echoing his words even when they have already been overtaken by events.

Because they chose to make a slimy asshole the arbiter of truth.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:25:29am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The President himself called it a hoax and downplayed it.

Now these are people who cannot bring themselves to back down even in the light of facts, especially when other crackerjack pundits and preachers are kissing Trumpian ass by echoing his words even when they have already been overtaken by events.

It caused a lot of Freeper dissonance when the Trump reversal, admitting 100K death risk, collided with the Viral Denial club.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:25:55am

re: #201 Kilroy was here

Trump is a President unfit for pretty much ANYTHING.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:26:41am

re: #188 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Clear and (sigh) quiet.

Sharing space in harmony
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stpaulbear  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:28:19am

re: #199 NO SMOCKING GUN!

When your doctor is more clueless than Fox News, you might want to get another doctor.

He’s the doctor who prescribes my depression/anxiety meds. I only see him every six months and this is the first time we’d talked about current events. We’ve been cutting back on the meds to the point that I’m down to one prescription that I may be able to get my ‘family’ doctor to cover.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:28:42am

re: #211 Decatur Deb

It caused a lot of Freeper dissonance when the Trump reversal, admitting 100K death risk, collided with the Viral Denial club.

Just a temporary disturbance in The Farce. They’ll soon settle of hundreds of thousands of deaths in the USA as Trump doing a better job than the Democrats and her emails could have done.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:33:06am

So, we’ve learned that there are two carriers affected by covid19. Both are in the Western Pacific, which means that we don’t have any capacity to deal with a crisis against China at the moment.

We can’t exactly surge carriers either, since they’re dealing with covid19 too domestically.

And there’s always carriers in dry dock or other parts of the world that would take time to redeploy to Pacific meaning that we’re going to be stretched even thinner thanks to Trump’s absolute and total failure of leadership.

He’s leaving us even worse off.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:39:27am
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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:40:34am

NYS can’t pay their workforce:

ALBANY - Nearly half of the 258,000 state workers in New York could see their paychecks delayed this week because the Legislature has yet to pass a budget for the fiscal year beginning Wednesday, according to the State Comptroller’s Office.

Only problem is the money owed was already budgeted under the 2019 fiscal year.
google.com

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BigPapa  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:41:44am

re: #158 lawhawk

Congrats, we crossed the 1000 Benghazi plateau early today.

I can’t wait until they converge into the Mecha Burismaghazi

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:43:59am

re: #218 Shropshire Slasher

NYS can’t pay their workforce:

Only problem is the money owed was already budgeted under the 2019 fiscal year.
google.com

The comptroller at a Cuomo presser said they would be paid regardless of the budget.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:49:50am

re: #192 stpaulbear

One of my doctors yesterday was phoo-phooing the shortages in New York. I was kind of pissed at him for saying it yesterday and I’m more pissed today. I can agree with his concern about hospitals closing down other operations in order to be ready for a covid-19 spike, but he really downplayed how under equipped most locations are and how vulnerable everybody is.

I had a doctor I absolutely loved GO OFF about Obamacare some years ago. Some people deserved healthcare and others didn’t.

I’d been her patient for a decade or more. I never looked at her the same way again after that.

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sagehen  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:51:17am

re: #178 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Thought I’d check Fox News coverage this morning. They have a NYC doctor on actually telling the truth of the horror in his hospital. Next story coming up: cases in Louisiana are surging and they are critically short of medical supplies. Reality is crashing through.

Just like Katrina.

They believed whatever the president said about faraway things… but they couldn’t help but notice when their own eyes in their own neighborhood starkly contradicted White House talking points.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:54:05am

Everyone report this motherfucker and his grifting until Twitter takes him down already!

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sagehen  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:55:07am

re: #188 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

That photo looks like a love story.

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lizardofid  Apr 1, 2020 • 7:57:55am

re: #224 sagehen

That photo looks like a love story.

Interesting. I’m seeing “Where the hell have you been?”

; )

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:00:13am

re: #220 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The comptroller at a Cuomo presser said they would be paid regardless of the budget.

Money talks and bullshit walks. The money was already budgeted, last year.

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sagehen  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:01:09am

re: #207 Belafon

FEMA shouldn’t be a middleman. FEMA should have been on top of who’s making what, and telling places where their product should go before they even get finished. The fact that you have to negotiate with FEMA means they’ve failed.

But without FEMA as the middleman, how is Pumpkin Pinochet supposed to be able to enforce his judgments of who is worthy of lifesaving supplies and who isn’t?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:01:56am

Was this some disinformation to make Cuomo look fiscally irresponsible?

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stpaulbear  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:08:26am

re: #224 sagehen

That photo looks like a love story.

It would be a lesbian love story, which is A-OK.

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jeffreyw  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:09:46am

re: #187 Kilroy was here

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Then I remember - I’m stuck at home with me.

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Alephnaught  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:14:19am

(Yes, I know… “nanny”?!)

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:15:32am

re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The NY budget is due April 1 at midnight. Even in good times, the state would miss the deadline, often by weeks and months and the state would pass interim budgets to keep the state afloat. With covid19, this is a unique challenge to try and forecast a budget when everything is collapsing at once.

Cuomo and the legislative leaders are trying to figure out the approach - a bare bones budget with authority to spend more or a packed budget that tries to account for as much as possible to deal with the threat.

There’s no right answer here. There’s only the least bad options as the state is struggling to cope with a massive hit to the budget (and the state is heavily reliant on Wall Street taxes). So revenues are expected to plunge. That would make the debt load even greater, throw off the pension funds too, capital projects, etc.

It would make the great recession look like child’s play.

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Teukka  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:17:42am

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:18:32am

Cuomo probably had to pay for his nipple rings.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:19:25am

re: #231 Alephnaught

In that photo, Jacob Rees-Mogg really does look like the frontman for some early ’80s post-punk/synthpop group.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:19:28am
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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:19:40am

Did you know that dogs can’t hold their licker?!

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jeffreyw  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:19:41am

re: #224 sagehen

That photo looks like a love story.

re: #225 lizardofid

Interesting. I’m seeing “Where the hell have you been?”

; )

Keep your distance, you hussy!

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:25:48am

re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Was this some disinformation to make Cuomo look fiscally irresponsible?

What disinformation?

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makeitstop  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:30:12am

Motherfuckers always looking for a way to put money in their pockets.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:31:50am

MR. BUTTER EMAILS:

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:33:40am

re: #240 makeitstop

Motherfuckers always looking for a way to put money in their pockets.

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Project and site were probably scrapped once the check cleared.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:37:32am

re: #196 ericblair

No, actually it’s not, although I bet the journalists were paranoid about it.

Guess what, neither is this:

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Oh, the humanity-p.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:38:31am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:39:37am

An armed society is a polite society?

wjactv.com

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stpaulbear  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:40:55am

re: #243 Barefoot Grin

Oh, the humanity-p.

I wonder if any cartons were salvageable? A butt that smells like smoke is still better than the alternative.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:41:07am

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m on the side of science and health experts and social distancing isn’t a divisive or political act in my books. Republicans are ridiculous. Seriously. They’ll do anything to defend Trump even when it’s obvious that he’s wrong and dangerously so.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:42:09am

re: #244 lawhawk

Hell, I’m no intelligence expert but knowing how the Chinese regime rolls *I* could have told you they were up to some shady shit and being less than transparent about this thing.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:43:36am

re: #157 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This one was funny:

Scotland first country to ban sale of alcohol due to COVID-19 outbreak

What? Scotland bans alcohol? Tobacco company invents Covid vaccine? I’m still asleep and dreaming all this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:43:49am

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

Hell, I’m no intelligence expert but knowing how the Chinese regime rolls *I* could have told you they were up to some shady shit and being less than transparent about this thing.

if only we had had an epidemiologist task force in place in China to observe first-hand…

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calochortus  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:43:59am

re: #184 Flying Squirrel Girl

I think I’ve got one for you. This is…hoo boy. Be sure to click through to read the second screenshot.

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I wonder who actually pushed the key to send that out? The executive that wrote it? I think not. It is possible that someone a little further down the ladder tasked with typing and sending wasn’t thrilled with the message and “accidentally” didn’t bcc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:44:25am

re: #249 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

What? Scotland bans alcohol? Tobacco company invents Covid vaccine? I’m still asleep and dreaming all this.

yes, alcohol production is being used only for hand sanitizers

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:45:20am

EDIT: wrong comment

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stpaulbear  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:45:22am

re: #245 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

There’s a store named Sheetz? Continuously referred to as “the Sheetz” in that story? How could someone do that?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:45:25am

re: #249 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

What? Scotland bans alcohol? Tobacco company invents Covid vaccine? I’m still asleep and dreaming all this.

(Looks at calendar and shakes head.)

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Decatur Deb  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:45:39am

Dow is down 666. Not a joke.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:46:30am

re: #256 Decatur Deb

Dow is down 666. Not a joke.

Cue ominous music…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:46:39am

re: #255 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

(Looks at calendar and shakes head.)

people are insisting that the tobacco vaccine stories are legit, but I will wait until tomorrow to see if they are still up

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:47:00am

re: #254 stpaulbear

There’s a store named Sheetz? Continuously referred to as “the Sheetz” in that story? How could someone do that?

Convenience/gas station chain in the US Northeast. Pretty common in PA and started and HQ’d in Altoona.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:49:13am

re: #259 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Convenience/gas station chain in the US Northeast. Pretty common in PA and started and HQ’d in Altoona.

yep, that seems to check out on google

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LadyBehir  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:49:45am

Sheetz vs Wawa is a PA thing. Somewhat akin to Steelers vs Eagles.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:51:11am

re: #244 lawhawk

China, Russia, and Trump are all playing games with the virus response. Trump cares about keeping himself in power. Russia and China are attempting to assert their authority with it and weakening US authority.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:53:42am

re: #244 lawhawk

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And yet his allies accuse other people of taking Xi and the CCSP party line.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:54:00am

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

Cue ominous music…

Ave Satani

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:54:48am

re: #262 Belafon

China, Russia, and Trump are all playing games with the virus response. Trump cares about keeping himself in power. Russia and China are attempting to assert their authority with it and weakening US authority.

Bingo

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Dave In Austin  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:55:59am

She’s one of us Goodguys…..

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Teukka  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:56:40am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

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Dammit! Beat me to it…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:56:49am

re: #262 Belafon

China, Russia, and Trump are all playing games with the virus response. Trump cares about keeping himself in power. Russia and China are attempting to assert their authority with it and weakening US authority.

so basically, people at the highest levels of authority are using a worldwide crisis for political positioning…

how can we expect anything else from people at lower levels of politics and society?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:56:49am

re: #244 lawhawk

As Nixon henchman Jeb Stuart Magruder said during Watergate, “I don’t think there was ever any discussion that there wouldn’t be a cover-up.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:57:32am
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plansbandc  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:59:00am

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:59:15am

re: #254 stpaulbear

There’s a store named Sheetz? Continuously referred to as “the Sheetz” in that story? How could someone do that?

Yep. Two of my sons work for them. Older is a refrigeration maintenance guy for his region (NW PA). Youngest is in college and works for them part time as counter and food line worker at store down the road from his apartment by the college.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 8:59:36am

re: #270 The Pie Overlord!

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Yep it’s just Trump attacking your governor during a crisis. It’s typical of him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:03:20am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

Perfect. It’s just not ominous enough if there’s no Latin chanting.

Also, Jerry Goldsmith was awesome. May he RIP.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:03:25am

Trump has and with name calling home after Governor Whitmer. He’s gone after Governor Cuomo. No condemnation of DeSanittis, Ivey, or that fool in Mississippi. No coincidence that all three of those governors rose to prominence because of kissing Trump’s ass especially DeSanittis.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:04:54am

re: #274 Eclectic Cyborg

Perfect. It’s just not ominous enough if there’s no Latin chanting.

Also, Jerry Goldsmith was awesome. May he RIP.

We need the theme from Deadpool 2 when they’re fighting Juggernaut.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:05:19am

re: #276 Belafon

Oh holy shitballs?!

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:05:46am

re: #277 lawhawk

Oh holy shitballs?!

That’s the one.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:07:01am

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Teukka  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:07:16am

re: #276 Belafon

We need the theme from Deadpool 2 when they’re fighting Juggernaut.

Deadpool 2 Final Fight Music(Welcome to the Party-Diplo ft. Zhavia)[] Colossus vs Juggernaut Music[]

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:07:49am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:09:36am

re: #274 Eclectic Cyborg

Perfect. It’s just not ominous enough if there’s no Latin chanting.

Also, Jerry Goldsmith was awesome. May he RIP.

His work on The Omen and other films was masterful.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:14:45am

re: #282 Dr Lizardo

His work on The Omen and other films was masterful.

The music in Patton really added to the movie. I get why Patton became the trendy WWII general after that movie. Not that he doesn’t deserve his accolades as a general but the movie and its soundtrack turned Patton into a timeless legend to the point where we hear Patton in George C Scott’s voice with Goldsmith’s score more than the man himself who sounded quite differently.

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BeachDem  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:17:46am

re: #231 Alephnaught

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(Yes, I know… “nanny”?!)

See Ullman, Tracey. She has it down pat. Just one sample:

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:19:33am

As of today, the graphs on Johns Hopkins are telling the story in a way even the stupidest Fox New viewer is going to have to grasp. I just paged this.

Check out the curves here. In the last week, Italy, Spain & France have gotten things under control. China did this more than a month ago. This is what competent leadership looks like.
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:20:54am

re: #284 BeachDem

See Ullman, Tracey. She has it down pat. Just one sample:

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Foil, Arms, & Hogg, an Irish sketch comedy trio did a brilliant song about how the Brits now found it hard to get out of an Union. It was good music too. I definitely sang along. Tracey of course is great too. I’m actually more confident than our ability to recover from Trumpism in the long run than Britain from Brexit.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:20:54am

Meanwhile, because Trump denied that there was even a problem

Then Trump said he had a “hunch” that it would all just go away

Then bungled the response, focusing on the ratings for his TV campaign rallies disguised as press conferences

We have this:

Note how the lines for every other country have taken a dive down. Not for the United States. We are the worst in sheer numbers, and the worst
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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:21:50am

re: #285 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Hope you’re feeling better.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:22:16am

The face of evil.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:25:17am

re: #289 DodgerFan1988

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The face of evil.

Time to turn Georgia blue as the rivers and ocean that Billy Sherman and his men saw as they marched along through Georgia.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:26:25am

re: #279 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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It is the 1,166th April Fools day in a row.
tickcounter.com

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:26:40am

In other news, Mrs Khal has started coughing now, but her fever is still pretty low.

Meanwhile, our phones screamed out an air-raid style alarm in the middle of the night, as the state of Illinois begs for help from any certified medical professional.

The hospitals here are worse than they are letting on, if this is the case …

I truly hope this is just a precaution, because if not, it means they are seeing something dire …
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danarchy  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:27:53am

Does anybody know a resource that posts accurate up to date info about total tests performed and tests per capita?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:28:38am

re: #289 DodgerFan1988

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The face of evil.

Poor people deserve to be poor because they just don’t know how to make savvy investments.////////

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Kilroy was here  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:28:46am

re: #293 danarchy

Does anybody know a resource that posts accurate up to date info about total tests performed and tests per capita?

covidtracking.com

This help?

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:29:34am

re: #288 lawhawk

Hope you’re feeling better.

Thanks. Feel much better, although the lingering effects are that there’s a deep burning in my chest that just won’t go away. Feels like the internal organ equivalent of an asphalt raspberry, like my lungs were riding a dirtbike & wiped out in jagged gravel.

Mrs Khal is, I truly hope, in for this or a lighter experience. Our neighborhood apparently has over-indexed for religious wackaloons, who are busily passing it to each other in the name of Jesus, and polluting the doorhandles, shelves & checkout counters at the grocery stores.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:30:03am

re: #287 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Meanwhile, because Trump denied that there was even a problem

Then Trump said he had a “hunch” that it would all just go away

Then bungled the response, focusing on the ratings for his TV campaign rallies disguised as press conferences

We have this:

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I think people aren’t fully aware to the extent of how terribly he screwed up. I’m hoping for investigations at some point because this was criminal negligence at best. Cowards can blame the impeachment all they want but the impeachment and subsequent Senate acquittal and Trump’s actions during and after in fact validate why impeachment was necessary. No one forced him to do rallies. No one forced him to spend December and January rage tweeting at Adam Schiff.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:30:12am

A good comparison point would be Canada. There are a country with a similar culture to ours and have roughly one tenth of our population. So we can assume that if both countries were taking similar steps to mitigate impacts from the virus, the Canadian numbers would be about 10% of our numbers. And that’s how it was in the early days of the outbreak.

Now, we have at least 190 000 confirmed cases within our borders (these numbers of course include those who have recovered).

Canada has only 8591. Multiply that by 10 and you get 85910, which is less than HALF the total caseload we’ve seen in this country.

But when you consider which country was quicker to enact lockdown measures and has the more competent leader, the disparity makes all the more sense.

So if the Federal Government had its shit together from the beginning, we’d be seeing FAR fewer cases than we have now.

This is ALL on Trump and even if he’s starting to realize how badly he fucked up that still doesn’t change the fact he is NOT able to handle this crisis.

Major shutdowns and closures started happening about three weeks ago today. In theory that means if we are making any progress flattening the curve, it should show in the numbers before too long (remember, we are behind Europe in terms of progression at this point).

But the worst case scenario is that the curve DOESN’T flatten and Trump decides that means social distancing and all this other stuff isn’t working so fuck it, we’re not going to bother with it anymore.

Also, let’s remember that just because some idiots are out there not taking this seriously doesn’t mean most of us aren’t.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:31:29am

re: #294 Barefoot Grin

Poor people deserve to be poor because they just don’t know how to make savvy investments.////////

Shouldn’t have eaten their bootstraps during the last downturn.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:32:35am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:32:36am

re: #292 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

In other news, Mrs Khal has started coughing now, but her fever is still pretty low.

Meanwhile, our phones screamed out an air-raid style alarm in the middle of the night, as the state of Illinois begs for help from any certified medical professional.

The hospitals here are worse than they are letting on, if this is the case …

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It also means they are preparing for something. It may not be necessary, but it’s better to be prepared. You know, the total opposite of Trump and the administration.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:33:00am

re: #301 Belafon

It also means they are preparing for something. It may not be necessary, but it’s better to be prepared. You know, the total opposite of Trump and the administration.

This X 100.

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danarchy  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:33:40am

re: #295 Kilroy was here

covidtracking.com

This help?

That’s pretty good. Was hoping to compare to other countries though, and it only appears to have US numbers.

Thanks though, better than what I was finding.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:35:12am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:35:42am

Just last week Trump was defending his Easter miracle because he likes Easter and it sounded nice. He doesn’t suddenly get an attaboy Don, you’re a great leader for realizing this is a problem now. This is a man who repeatedly brags how smart and informed he is even though he’s shown unprecedented ignorance by an American President and is clearly uninterested in any information that complicates his reality.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:36:03am

re: #290 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Time to turn Georgia blue as the rivers and ocean that Billy Sherman and his men saw as they marched along through Georgia.

Used to be friends with a tough old bat named Lola Sherman; reporter for the San Diego U-T. Was a direct descendant of “General Billy” - had some family pictures on her walls that had been passed down.

She would have LOVED this meme.

This tends to shut up even the worst Southern Redneck Loudmouth

Lola used to get this crazy glint in her pale blue eyes every once in a while, and her face would just go still as a rock, and that was how you’d know she was hella pissed.

Guess there was something that ran in the family…

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Kilroy was here  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:36:44am

re: #303 danarchy

That’s pretty good. Was hoping to compare to other countries though, and it only appears to have US numbers.

Thanks though, better than what I was finding.

Here are a few other data sources..
worldometers.info
covid19.healthdata.org
91-divoc.com
arcgis.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:37:44am

What in the blazing hell is he talking about??

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:38:13am

re: #285 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

As of today, the graphs on Johns Hopkins are telling the story in a way even the stupidest Fox New viewer is going to have to grasp. I just paged this.

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Firstly, glad you’re still doing well.

Secondly, it’s hard to do a comparison of reported cases, as those are so subject to local variations. China, for instance, is clearly lying about all its data. Italy has even more cases than it reports, because as it says, it is only really testing people who present to the hospital due to the overwhelming situation. The US has by far the most reported cases and still rising, but it would not surprise me if Spain and Italy actually still had more cases. China clearly does.

What matters more is deaths, and specifically doubling rate of deaths. Italy and Germany are clearly bending that doubling rate downwards. It is still a bit early to tell for France and Spain, but they should hopefully be on that trajectory as well. Again, China is lying, so hard to include that. The US remains on a 3-3.5 day death doubling rate, with some areas doing better and some areas, like NY, doing worse.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:38:41am

re: #301 Belafon

It also means they are preparing for something. It may not be necessary, but it’s better to be prepared. You know, the total opposite of Trump and the administration.

Indeed. Thinking about volunteering, seeing as how I can’t get it twice.

I think?

Although there are some indications of people being contagious for up to 3 weeks after they’ve “recovered.” Whatever that latter word means, which for me translates to “not lying in bed hacking and writhing with a fever & feeling like someone sucked all the marrow out of my bones.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:39:44am

re: #306 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Used to be friends with a tough old bat named Lola Sherman; reporter for the San Diego U-T. Was a direct descendant of “General Billy” - had some family pictures on her walls that had been passed down.

She would have LOVED this meme.

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Lola used to get this crazy glint in her pale blue eyes every once in a while, and her face would just go still as a rock, and that was how you’d know she was hella pissed.

Guess there was something that ran in the family…

Just a brilliant general. And I admire the hell that he adamantly didn’t want a political career. Gotta remember that in the 19th century, generals turned Presidents was common. It wasn’t just Grant and Andrew Jackson. Turned out his family did have a political legacy, the old Sherman Anti Trust Act was his brother John’s bill in the Senate.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:40:30am

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

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What in the blazing hell is he talking about??

I don’t know. Is this some “Mad Men” expense account stuff? Because that goes along with pretty steep income taxes for the wealthiest.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:41:06am

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

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What in the blazing hell is he talking about??

Writing off “business” meals and entertainment on their taxes if I remember correctly.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:43:54am
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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:45:23am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:46:41am

re: #314 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Yeah how dare we try to learn what went wrong but let’s hear for the butter emails party y’all.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:46:44am
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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:49:05am

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

What in the blazing hell is he talking about??

“My businesses are failing, and I need Congress to save them!”

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stpaulbear  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:49:10am

re: #314 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not sure I see anything wrong with that. Impeach him again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:49:20am

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

What in the blazing hell is he talking about??

something he saw on Fox that might help stave of a series of embarrassing Trump Organization bankruptcies?

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:50:07am

Loving Governor Cuomo. The best voice on the planet right now in the crisis. The antidote to Trump and GOP economy before lives bullshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:51:14am

re: #314 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

RNC is already out with a warning that efforts by House Dems to conduct oversight in what went wrong during the early weeks of coronavirus in the U.S. are an attempt to conduct “another bogus impeachment.”

Trying to find out what happened = making Trump look bad.

There is no way around that fact, just like

shoveling shit = shoveled shit

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:51:27am

re: #314 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

“What’s a few hundred thousand deaths among friends? I mean really, four was a much bigger problem than 200,000 will ever be.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:51:37am

re: #319 stpaulbear

Not sure I see anything wrong with that. Impeach him again.

Since they like the “shoot someone on 5th Ave” thing so much, I’m like ok.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:53:25am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:53:46am

re: #16 mmmirele

Not going to go into a huge amount of detail, but I came home today to find that my mortgage servicer has threatened me with foreclosure. I only received this notice out of the goodness of the Postal Service writing my unit number on the notification. This explains why I have not received statements for months and months. And yeah, I kept sending in the same amount because gee, not much has changed over the years.

…..
I am so ticked off that I have made it very clear that if they do not fix this to my satisfaction, I will report them to every state agency where they are licensed and I will sue them. Because I am a tech manager for a bank, I know it is a major cluster to screw up something this important as an address on payments. And I figure that this has been screwed up from the moment they took over the loan.

First World Problems…yeah.

Even if they do fix it to your satisfaction, they need to be brought down. A friend of mine lost her home to the 2008 meltdown, thanks to Steve Mnuchin. The only way banks and other financial institutions will do the right thing is if their presidents and top officers are imprisoned and heavily fined. This is the type of behavior that makes me think that Bernie is right (Bernie himself is terrible and would be a disaster as President) about what are the problems in this country. Robespierre had his prescription in the days of feudalism. These people will never repent and will continue to harm others unless they are brought down, and that requires a Democratic government that is bolder than 2009 Obama.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:54:37am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trying to find out what happened = making Trump look bad.

There is no way around that fact, just like

shoveling shit = shoveled shit

Almost went tweet I send out includes @GOP you own this. Trump’s a fucking half wit with delusions of grandeur. The GOP **knows** this and is letting him kill us. They allow more death and destruction every single day.

There needs to be a reckoning.

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lizardofid  Apr 1, 2020 • 9:59:52am

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

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What in the blazing hell is he talking about??

Gather round youngsters, and let while I describe the glorious days of the “3 martini lunch”!

//

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:04:05am

Less than a month ago…

Feels like a decade.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:04:08am

re: #315 lawhawk

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There are too many stupid people to rely on voluntary compliance.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:06:29am

re: #330 NO SMOCKING GUN!

There are too many stupid people to rely on voluntary compliance.

Combined with greedy bastards like the Hobby Lobby CEO who ordered stores reopened in violation of state orders.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:07:23am

re: #328 lizardofid

Gather round youngsters, and let while I describe the glorious days of the “3 martini lunch”!

//

i recently listened to an interview with director/actor Peter Berg who recalled going with his mom to pick up his dad from the wealthy suburban station near their home outside NYC and seeing the train vomit out a whole bunch of really drunk businessmen each day. He talked about seeing one guy fall out of the door and breaking his front teeth on the pavement. Most of the guys had been drinking since noon each day and continued on the ride home.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:08:42am

re: #331 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I hope Hobby Lobby goes out of business. The have no regard for their employees or even the people who go to their Museum of the Bible.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:10:22am

re: #287 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Meanwhile, because Trump denied that there was even a problem

Then Trump said he had a “hunch” that it would all just go away

Then bungled the response, focusing on the ratings for his TV campaign rallies disguised as press conferences

We have this:

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Break that last curve down by state, and we’ll have an even more obvious view of competent vs. not.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:12:45am

Can’t see the evidence with his head so far up Trump’s ass…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:13:20am

re: #335 Kilroy was here

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Can’t see the evidence with his head so far up Trump’s ass…

OFFS

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:13:48am

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

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What in the blazing hell is he talking about??

Expense accounts. They usually have upper limits on chargeable entertainment.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:14:06am

re: #335 Kilroy was here

And this comes from the governor who tried to pray away AIDS. Totally clueless.

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cat-tikvah  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:14:22am

re: #178 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Thought I’d check Fox News coverage this morning. They have a NYC doctor on actually telling the truth of the horror in his hospital. Next story coming up: cases in Louisiana are surging and they are critically short of medical supplies. Reality is crashing through.

I worry about who - which minority groups - will get blamed for this as the death toll mounts. Who will be targeted as responsible.
“Illegals”? Jews? Random Asians? Everyone who isn’t white and Christian?

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Kilroy was here  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:15:04am

re: #339 cat-tikvah

I worry about who - which minority groups - will get blamed for this as the death toll mounts. Who will be targeted as responsible.
“Illegals”? Jews? Random Asians? Everyone who isn’t white and Christian?

City folk…

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:15:57am

Well there goes any sort of diet out the window. I just broke into the Thin Mints.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:17:15am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

hey wendell

YouTube

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:17:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:18:04am

re: #335 Kilroy was here

Pence: I don’t believe Trump “has ever belittled the threat of the coronavirus”

you mean he meant it was a “serious hoax”?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:18:14am

re: #326 Hecuba’s daughter

Even if they do fix it to your satisfaction, they need to be brought down. A friend of mine lost her home to the 2008 meltdown, thanks to Steve Mnuchin. The only way banks and other financial institutions will do the right thing is if their presidents and top officers are imprisoned and heavily fined. This is the type of behavior that makes me think that Bernie is right (Bernie himself is terrible and would be a disaster as President) about what are the problems in this country. Robespierre had his prescription in the days of feudalism. These people will never repent and will continue to harm others unless they are brought down, and that requires a Democratic government that is bolder than 2009 Obama.

I don’t think most of us have serious problems with his ideas, just his execution. We can’t get there from here in one step. And his followers. Also his personality, which prevents compromise or coalition. And his followers.

Also his followers.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:18:40am

re: #335 Kilroy was here

Can’t see the evidence with his head so far up Trump’s ass…

Yeah, “we’ve always been very very concerned, yada, yada, yada.” Well, what else can he say (publicly)?

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:20:10am

Just back from doing the weekly shopping. Mostly uneventful, stores not crowded, middle of the day. No paper towels, though. I have about enough for two more weeks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:20:10am

re: #324 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Since they like the “shoot someone on 5th Ave” thing so much, I’m like ok.

He hasn’t shot anyone, but now we’re facing bodybags lined up along 5th Avenue.

And that will be a lot harder for him to walk away from.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:20:30am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

these are not the words and actions of a leader.

they are the utterances of someone who is hopelessly in over his head

These are the words of a malignant narcissist and sociopath who cares only at being the center of attention and who cares nothing about the suffering of others; in fact, he delights in the misery he has caused and the continued adulation of the acolytes who worship him no matter what he does. Unfortunately, innocent people are suffering, not just those who are still loyal to him. And his supporters are harming others through their negligence.

Earlier today, a Trumpster friend who is moving out-of-state asked me to join him in person for one last time together before he departs in a couple weeks. It never dawned on him that this really violated our state’s official stay-at-home policy. But he really wanted to get together — and in pre-coronavirus days, I would have accepted the invitation. But too many of these people aren’t treating the virus with the urgency it deserves, because our President hasn’t.

Have to admit my Trumpster brother in Texas has been a fanatic about proper precautions. He and his wife “launder” their money, wear a mask and gloves when going out, clean everything, avoids personal contact with others. He treats this very seriously but still is blind to Trump’s flaws. And he finds excuses for his governor’s negligence in not imposing a statewide stay-at-home order.

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BeachDem  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:22:38am

re: #332 Barefoot Grin

i recently listened to an interview with director/actor Peter Berg who recalled going with his mom to pick up his dad from the wealthy suburban station near their home outside NYC and seeing the train vomit out a whole bunch of really drunk businessmen each day. He talked about seeing one guy fall out of the door and breaking his front teeth on the pavement. Most of the guys had been drinking since noon each day and continued on the ride home.

My dad was an ad/pr director in NY during those days. He didn’t drink. He had an arrangement with all the bartenders and waiters where the “Mad Men” lunches took place to bring him a Schweppes Bitter Lemon with a twist while the rest of the gang got sloshed.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:23:13am

re: #341 PhillyPretzel

Well there goes any sort of diet out the window. I just broke into the Thin Mints.

Particularly since you can now order new supplies online.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:24:44am

re: #335 Kilroy was here

Can’t see the evidence with his head so far up Trump’s ass…

Of course lies like this are almost expected.

But in the aftermath of the great BENGHAZI! in the moments right after when an Obama official mentions a video as an instigating cause in the attack wingnuts treat such a statement as so great a LIE that the whole administration must forever be discredited.

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cat-tikvah  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:25:37am

re: #261 LadyBehir

Sheetz vs Wawa is a PA thing. Somewhat akin to Steelers vs Eagles.

Wawa.
No contest.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:25:50am

re: #341 PhillyPretzel

Well there goes any sort of diet out the window. I just broke into the Thin Mints.

We finished up all ours last week.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:26:11am

re: #353 cat-tikvah

Wawa.
No contest.

TEAM WAWA FOREVER

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NetworkKed  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:26:55am

I hate that you can’t find Bitter Lemon around here. When I lived in Germany I could get bitter orange too.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:27:31am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:28:57am

re: #347 Sir John Barron

Just back from doing the weekly shopping. Mostly uneventful, stores not crowded, middle of the day. No paper towels, though. I have about enough for two more weeks.

That too around here. Odd, as toilet paper is beginning to show up, though it usually goes in a day, sporadically, one brand at a time.

But paper towels? Nope. Just not there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:29:12am

re: #356 NetworkKed

I hate that you can’t find Bitter Lemon around here. When I lived in Germany I could get bitter orange too.

That is one of things I will be going to fetch from the supermarket on Friday…

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:30:21am

re: #357 Charles Johnson

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:30:31am

re: #358 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That too around here. Odd, as toilet paper is beginning to show up, though it usually goes in a day, sporadically, one brand at a time.

But paper towels? Nope. Just not there.

I’m OK with the TP for a while. But eventually….

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:30:51am

re: #357 Charles Johnson

“Upon information and belief my need to change the subject”

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makeitstop  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:31:01am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trying to find out what happened = making Trump look bad.

If they start looking at a tick-tock of the bungled response, Trump will be pretty far from the only one at fault.

The entire R side of Congress will look pretty fuckin’ bad, too.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:31:18am

re: #362 Belafon

“Upon information and belief my need to change the subject”

Hey look over there a squirrel

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:31:35am

re: #360 lawhawk

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at least US Army and USAF base personnel can be isolated much more efficiently than sailors on ships…

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:33:38am

re: #341 PhillyPretzel

Well there goes any sort of diet out the window. I just broke into the Thin Mints.

My downfall is licorice. I usually purchase a supply only when hosting some type of party — but this time, I splurged during yesterday’s trip to Walgreen’s for paper supplies. Unlike my other purchases, they didn’t have a limit of 2 packages on licorice!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:34:52am
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Citizen K  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:35:15am

Oh for fuck’s sake…apparently Rose Twitter’s new cause celebre is to attack folks who are hectoring the media celebrating Trump’s change in tone. Why? Because a Sanders spox went after Kamala for a tweet on the ongoing health crisis, insinuating that she wanted cancer patients to die for not deferring to Wise God Bernie and his Infinite Plan.

Fuck everything about this.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:36:40am

I’ve been a quasi diet for the past 30 days. I was trying the Whole30 program which I maintained strictly for 14 days (and lost 7 lbs), but in the past two weeks, I’d softened it somewhat. Still hadn’t had any chocolate or any fast food. Got some McD’s today, warmed the food up when I got home. And it was good, I tells ya.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:37:39am

I broke down and ordered a pepperoni pizza yesterday but in general have been living meat-free since Ash Wednesday.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:37:43am

re: #350 BeachDem

My dad was an ad/pr director in NY during those days. He didn’t drink. He had an arrangement with all the bartenders and waiters where the “Mad Men” lunches took place to bring him a Schweppes Bitter Lemon with a twist while the rest of the gang got sloshed.

I figured that someone had to stay sober.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:39:28am

re: #350 BeachDem

Even now (pre covid19), there’s folks on the train I used to take home that would drink their way home.

The LIRR even used to have bar cars on some of their lines.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:39:39am

Way too late, DeSantis finally issues a stay at home order in Florida.

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makeitstop  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:40:35am

re: #372 lawhawk

The LIRR even used to have bar cars on some of their lines.

AKA the Good Old Days. :)

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Kilroy was here  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:40:56am

I like this chart for how easy it is to understand…

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:41:22am

re: #373 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Of course. This a hoax not a virus. And if you believe that I have a bridge that is for sale. /

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:43:43am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:43:50am

re: #373 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Way too late, DeSantis finally issues a stay at home order in Florida.

“Hey, I’m waiting for my boss in the WH to tell me what to do…..”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:44:11am

The Bug That Ate Capitalism

month 3

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:45:07am

re: #373 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Way too late, DeSantis finally issues a stay at home order in Florida.

NY issued their stay at home on March 22. At that point, NY had: 15,000 cases confirmed. 76 dead.

FL issued their stay at home today on April 1: 7,000 and 87 dead.

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BeachDem  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:45:07am

re: #371 Barefoot Grin

I figured that someone had to stay sober.

As he told it, made for some looooonnnnggg afternoons.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:45:42am

re: #343 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Nah, leave her alone. She is probably sitting in front of her stereo, sloshed, singing along to Neil Diamond (or Black Sabbath, I don’t know her preferences).

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BeachDem  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:46:27am

re: #372 lawhawk

Even now (pre covid19), there’s folks on the train I used to take home that would drink their way home.

The LIRR even used to have bar cars on some of their lines.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:48:31am

re: #378 Sir John Barron

“Hey, I’m waiting for my boss in the WH to tell me what to do…..”

Sniveling coward

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:48:52am

re: #380 lawhawk

NY issued their stay at home on March 22. At that point, NY had: 15,000 cases confirmed. 76 dead.

FL issued their stay at home today on April 1: 7,000 and 87 dead.

But Florida had New York’s example before them.

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LadyBehir  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:48:53am

PA finally went statewide with the Stay Home order:

sungazette.com

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:49:24am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:50:54am

Nevada has extended the shutdown and Stay at home order.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:51:46am

re: #387 Charles Johnson

“I was always very concerned about the very serious virus and I actually issued a state at home order weeks ago but the lamestream media never told anyone.”

/

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:52:11am

re: #385 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

But Florida had New York’s example before them.

Correct. And we continue to see states lag behind NY. NY should have issued the stay at home order sooner too. It issued the cordon around New Rochelle on March 10, thinking that it might be enough, but by then it was already out in the community and insufficient testing made containment all but impossible.

No state is doing nearly enough testing. In sheer numbers, NY is doing more testing than anywhere else, but on a per capita basis, other states are doing a better job.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:53:24am

re: #358 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That too around here. Odd, as toilet paper is beginning to show up, though it usually goes in a day, sporadically, one brand at a time.

But paper towels? Nope. Just not there.

Around here it’s the opposite. Low quantities of TP, but the last three stores I’ve visited have had plenty of paper towels.

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:54:33am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:56:18am

re: #391 Eclectic Cyborg

Around here it’s the opposite. Low quantities of TP, but the last three stores I’ve visited have had plenty of paper towels.

My local Walgreen’s told me last week that they have deliveries at a random time (6am to 4pm or later) on Tuesdays and Fridays. So my trip yesterday was based on the hope that the random time preceded my visit — and it did!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:56:31am

re: #335 Kilroy was here

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Can’t see the evidence with his head so far up Trump’s ass…

I don’t give a fuck what you “believe”, Mr “vice president”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:57:13am

re: #392 jaunte

Don’t bailout the cruise industry

Why would we bail out any industry that is not registered in the USA?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:57:58am

re: #387 Charles Johnson

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In contrast, Gov. Beshear started issuing orders and recommendations March 7.

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danarchy  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:58:10am

re: #367 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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There are actually 2 carrier groups in the Arabian sea at the moment that to my knowledge are still fully functional. So it may be one of the few places we are in position to project force currently.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:58:16am

re: #388 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

On a side note. Have now been on hold for 3 hrs waiting to talk to someone at the Nevada UI help desk to finish up my online claim. Only 7 more hours to go. :-/

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 1, 2020 • 10:59:28am

re: #335 Kilroy was here

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Can’t see the evidence with his head so far up Trump’s ass…

Headline should’ve been “Pence lies that Trump never belittled the threat of coronavirus.”

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jaunte  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:01:06am

re: #395 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Bribes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:01:22am

re: #390 lawhawk

Correct. And we continue to see states lag behind NY. NY should have issued the stay at home order sooner too. It issued the cordon around New Rochelle on March 10, thinking that it might be enough, but by then it was already out in the community and insufficient testing made containment all but impossible.

No state is doing nearly enough testing. In sheer numbers, NY is doing more testing than anywhere else, but on a per capita basis, other states are doing a better job.

In a NYTimes opinion piece today, the Republican mayor of Tulsa thought he deserved praise for issuing lock down orders on Saturday, when their first case was March 6. Seems that most Republicans have to wait until catastrophe is on them to respond to a crisis — and only then until after Trump grudgingly started accepting there might be a problem.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:01:36am

re: #400 jaunte

Bribes.

it was a rhetorical question…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:02:55am

re: #397 danarchy

There are actually 2 carrier groups in the Arabian sea at the moment that to my knowledge are still fully functional. So it may be one of the few places we are in position to project force currently.

I was under the impression the TR was one of those and she is now stuck in Guam.

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:03:40am

I just know Ima gonna get CL’d but, a paper from the outstanding epidemiology experts at Univ of Nebraska (who knew? my Infectious disease doctor friend, who go his MD there).

Bottom line, viral particles shed in air and by fomites, some of which come from toileting. Avoid public bathrooms (for necessary business) when you do your necessary shopping.

medrxiv.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:04:10am

and one still sees the talking point that liberals are “rejoicing” and “delighting” at the rising death toll and the decline of the economy because we hate Trump so much…

and Pence tries to tell us that Trump’s statements were based on “optimism” rather than outright deception and/or willful ignorance

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:04:29am

re: #393 Hecuba’s daughter

My local Walgreen’s told me last week that they have deliveries at a random time (6am to 4pm or later) on Tuesdays and Fridays. So my trip yesterday was based on the hope that the random time preceded my visit — and it did!

I feel you. I’ve started looking for the essentials every time I go to a store. Have been lucky with toilet paper, bleach and baby wipes so far, but disinfectant wipes are tough to find.

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danarchy  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:05:07am

re: #403 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I was under the impression the TR was one of those and she is now stuck in Guam.

nope eisenhower and truman

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:05:58am

re: #407 danarchy

nope eisenhower and truman

Thanks.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:06:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:07:05am

This is not just a disease that kills old and sick people

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:08:03am

re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It gets to almost everyone. :(

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:09:26am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:11:06am

re: #412 Ace Rothstein

Yes. That screen shot should be saved and constantly be re-tweeted.

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retired cynic  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:13:26am

re: #351 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Particularly since you can now order new supplies online.

Thin Mints? I wouldn’t dare. It would take a fork life to get me out of bed in the morning!

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:13:44am

re: #412 Ace Rothstein

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That was before the Trumpster fan club insisted on calling it “Wuhan flu” or “Chinese virus”. Now, that title would be considered PC by the deplorables.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:14:34am

re: #415 Hecuba’s daughter

That was before the Trumpster fan club insisted on calling it “Wuhan flu” or “Chinese virus”. Now, that title would be considered PC by the deplorables.

We never called it that!!!! FACT!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:14:41am

one of my neighbors stopped by to check on the mushroom logs.
his fiancee went to the local grocery and says there were three guys there in suits and one in a hazmat outfit.

wonderful…

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Charles Johnson  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:18:02am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:19:31am

re: #418 Charles Johnson

Way too much political power. Another reason to GOTV even by mail in ballot.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:20:27am

re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth

one of my neighbors stopped by to check on the mushroom logs.
his fiancee went to the local grocery and says there were three guys there in suits and one in a hazmat outfit.

wonderful…

I was gonna go into publix in winter gloves hat and a scarf over my mouth
(Sofla)
Ida got looks and not the good kind

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:21:33am

re: #418 Charles Johnson

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It’s yet another fundamental difference between the two parties.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:21:42am

re: #417 Backwoods_Sleuth

one of my neighbors stopped by to check on the mushroom logs.
his fiancee went to the local grocery and says there were three guys there in suits and one in a hazmat outfit.

wonderful…

There were a lot more people wearing masks in the stores I just came from, and plexiglass up at the counters, but fortunately not many people in the stores at this time of day. Things haven’t gotten too, too wacky in my area yet.

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Interesting Times  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:24:30am

re: #408 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Is this anywhere near you?

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:26:24am

re: #423 Interesting Times

Is this anywhere near you?

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The virus has been carried by those wealthy enough to travel. Wealthy people travelling to a safe place - IDIOTS!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:27:55am
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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:28:16am

The epidemiologist modelling at Emory University predicts a peak in covid9 cases THREE WEEKS from NOW. (How much longer until the downside of the curve enough to relax? - way too damn long)

wsbtv.com

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aatharuv  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:30:09am

re: #424 BlueSpotinAL

The virus has been carried by those wealthy enough to travel. Wealthy people travelling to a safe place - IDIOTS!

No, irresponsible assholes, or at best people who aren’t thinking or reading. Most of these people have the minimum level of intelligence needed to realize the implications of their actions or at least understand what they’re hearing.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:30:17am

re: #424 BlueSpotinAL

The virus has been carried by those wealthy enough to travel. Wealthy people travelling to a safe place - IDIOTS!

That’s how this spread out of China. Business travelers and those who are wealthy traveling spread it around the world. That’s how we saw cases first appear among the elites.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:30:35am
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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:30:47am

re: #426 BlueSpotinAL

The epidemiologist modelling at Emory University predicts a peak in covid9 cases THREE WEEKS from NOW. (How much longer until the downside of the curve enough to relax? - way too damn long)

wsbtv.com

Correction, three weeks from now is Georgia. For the US, now max at April 16. Fun times!

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:31:17am

re: #395 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why would we bail out any industry that is not registered in the USA?

America First (sometimes)!

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:31:29am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:32:12am

re: #425 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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The phrase credible intelligence isn’t in Trump’s lexicons because he heard that phrase when he heard about Russian interference.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:32:19am

re: #424 BlueSpotinAL

The virus has been carried by those wealthy enough to travel. Wealthy people travelling to a safe place - IDIOTS!

You just turned over your health and well being to *idaho*

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:32:59am

OH SHIT

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:33:08am

re: #423 Interesting Times

Is this anywhere near you?

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Yep. 75 miles to the north. The St. Lukes hospital here in Twin Falls has actually taken in COVID-19 patients from there to help keep the loads on those hospitals down.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:33:42am

re: #429 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

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Trump has lied too and in fact praised Xi’s response. Gaslighting Scott should read the difference between reporting the CCP line and praising it which Trump in fact did.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:35:13am

re: #435 The Pie Overlord!

OH SHIT

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That’s where my mother’s immediate family lived when they left Detroit in the 1970’s.

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:36:00am

re: #434 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

You just turned over your health and well being to *idaho*

Low costs of mansions, low taxes, amirite?

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:36:59am

A competent administration would have seen the China reports about covid19 and mobilized its efforts to try and get ahead of the crisis there.

A competent administration wouldn’t spend 3 months claiming that it would disappear on its own and cases magically go down to zero.

A competent administration wouldn’t claim that herd immunity would solve the problem and that viruses get weaker over time.

A competent administration would rely on public health experts and have them front and center during a crisis instead of contradicting said experts at every opportunity.

Trumpworld is not a competent administration.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:37:37am

re: #424 BlueSpotinAL

The virus has been carried by those wealthy enough to travel. Wealthy people travelling to a safe place - IDIOTS!

Fortunately, no one wants to come here.

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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:38:00am

re: #426 BlueSpotinAL

The epidemiologist modelling at Emory University predicts a peak in covid9 cases THREE WEEKS from NOW. (How much longer until the downside of the curve enough to relax? - way too damn long)

wsbtv.com

As of right now, Texas schools are closed until May 4th.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:38:41am

Please, please, please..

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:39:46am

re: #443 Dread Pirate

I hope so too but it may be a red herring.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:40:16am
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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:40:22am

re: #409 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Also, self-isolation needs to be closely monitored by doctors. He might have had a chance had they not sent him home.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:40:28am

re: #430 BlueSpotinAL

Correction, three weeks from now is Georgia. For the US, now max at April 16. Fun times!

The U of Washington site charts the same timeframe for AL. IF EVERYONE DOES EVERYTHING RIGHT.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:41:17am

Idiots are running the government.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:42:06am

re: #444 PhillyPretzel

I hope so too but it may be a red herring.

I googled the Moscow Times. Could be a red herring on the Kremlin’s part to report this but the publication it doesn’t seen to be an instrument of the Russian government I.e. RT.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:44:21am

Gov Murphy presser: As of Wednesday, 355 people have died from COVID-19 in New Jersey and there are 22,255 confirmed cases.

Another local nursing home in NJ: 5 dead, 16 others infected with suspected cases among patients and 6 staffers.

Once it gets into the nursing home/adult facility setting, it spreads and the mortality rates skyrocket.

Want to try and bend the curve?

National guidelines for all hospitals and nursing home facilities - no visitors and everyone gets screened before entering. Aggressive testing.

There’s that phrase again: aggressive testing. Want to keep people safe, you need aggressive testing. Otherwise, cases will spread into these vulnerable populations and take far more lives.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:47:41am

re: #448 The Pie Overlord!

Idiots are running the government.

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Delusional ones too. Ones unaware of their fuck ups. Meadows only officially stepped down from Congress to replace Mulvaney on Monday as Chief of Staff. And Hope Hicks is going around doing the propaganda that Trump is a natural leader who was born for this?!?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:48:25am

re: #440 lawhawk

A competent administration would have seen the China reports about covid19 and mobilized its efforts to try and get ahead of the crisis there.

A competent administration wouldn’t spend 3 months claiming that it would disappear on its own and cases magically go down to zero.

A competent administration wouldn’t claim that herd immunity would solve the problem and that viruses get weaker over time.

A competent administration would rely on public health experts and have them front and center during a crisis instead of contradicting said experts at every opportunity.

Trumpworld is not a competent administration.

I’m a nobody abs I saw it. Started going to the grocery store 3x a week stocking up on canned goods, pasta, rice, etc. and frozen foods. Got sanitizer, antibacterial soap, you name it.

I’ll repeat… I’M A NOBODY (who had to take biology twice to just pass it, and have little other hard sciences) and I saw this coming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:48:50am

re: #420 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

I was gonna go into publix in winter gloves hat and a scarf over my mouth
(Sofla)
Ida got looks and not the good kind

guys wearing suits are enough to raise eyebrows and suspicion around here.

a hazmat outfit…yowser.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:48:52am
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:48:53am
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makeitstop  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:50:57am

re: #448 The Pie Overlord!

Idiots are running the government.

The White House is a fucking mess. Reading that story, it sounds like nobody knows what the fuck is going, but they’re all insisting that they do.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:51:19am

re: #452 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Back on Feb 29 I ordered a 2L bottle of Purell. I should have ordered Lysol too.

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ericblair  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:53:08am

re: #449 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I googled the Moscow Times. Could be a red herring on the Kremlin’s part to report this but the publication it doesn’t seen to be an instrument of the Russian government I.e. RT.

The Moscow Times is independent, mostly because (up until a couple of weeks ago) it’s published only in English, so got a pass on censorship. However, there are big criminal penalties for “misreporting” coronavirus statistics in Russia, so you can only print the officially approved bullshit numbers without risking jail. Accordingly, there are limits to what they’ll report.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:53:20am

re: #457 PhillyPretzel

Back on Feb 29 I ordered a 2L bottle of Purell. I should have ordered Lysol too.

I should have, too. I didn’t think of everything, that’s for sure, but we have enough to get by for a while.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:54:51am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:54:56am

re: #459 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I got my Ozium this morning.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:56:05am

re: #452 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I first saw mention of it on Reddit - their world news subreddit had articles about it starting in very late December of last year. This was before it was formally classified and named.

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makeitstop  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:57:07am

Same thought I had this morning…

Look at him, he was a hot mess.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:59:31am

re: #461 PhillyPretzel

I got my Ozium this morning.

I never heard of that before.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 1, 2020 • 11:59:34am

re: #423 Interesting Times

Is this anywhere near you?

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That’s it, I am now calling this Moneybags Virus. Fucking refugees spreading disease.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:01:17pm

re: #464 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Here is an amazon listing for it.
amazon.com

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austin_blue  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:01:42pm

re: #308 Eclectic Cyborg

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What in the blazing hell is he talking about??

Getting the richies more richy.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:02:08pm

re: #462 Dr Lizardo

I first saw mention of it on Reddit - their world news subreddit had articles about it starting in very late December of last year. This was before it was formally classified and named.

I was a bit concerned by Wuhan. When the other countries started I was shopping. Hubs is an engineer and I asked him if I was being paranoid. He said no and that sealed it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:03:49pm

re: #463 makeitstop

Same thought I had this morning…

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Look at him, he was a hot mess.

I watched that when it first came out and it completely grossed me out. That he hasn’t been seen since? Yeah, I’m sure he’s perfectly fine.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:05:43pm

re: #458 ericblair

The Moscow Times is independent, mostly because (up until a couple of weeks ago) it’s published only in English, so got a pass on censorship. However, there are big criminal penalties for “misreporting” coronavirus statistics in Russia, so you can only print the officially approved bullshit numbers without risking jail. Accordingly, there are limits to what they’ll report.

Thanks

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:06:02pm

re: #456 makeitstop

The White House is a fucking mess. Reading that story, it sounds like nobody knows what the fuck is going, but they’re all insisting that they do.

Which is precisely how con men operate.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:06:56pm

re: #471 Eclectic Cyborg

Exactly. That is why I call DT what he is. A con-man.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:07:00pm

re: #460 lawhawk

All of Trump’s “best friends” are potential donors.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:08:55pm

re: #466 PhillyPretzel

Here is an amazon listing for it.
amazon.com

Pack of 6 - 0.8 oz (22.6g) Spray $106.00 plus shipping (at Amazon Canada)

Capitalism!

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:09:05pm

re: #473 The Pie Overlord!

All of Trump’s “best friends” are potential donorsmarks.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:09:54pm

re: #450 lawhawk

[snip]

National guidelines for all hospitals and nursing home facilities - no visitors and everyone gets screened before entering. Aggressive testing.

There’s that phrase again: aggressive testing. Want to keep people safe, you need aggressive testing. Otherwise, cases will spread into these vulnerable populations and take far more lives.

I can only talk to my mom over Skype right now. No visitors at the home. Her husband can’t even come in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:10:59pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:12:49pm

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuckin’ A, you’d be amazed at how many businesses are deemed “essential” in the midst of a fucking national crisis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:13:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:16:15pm
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danarchy  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:16:36pm

re: #463 makeitstop

Same thought I had this morning…

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Look at him, he was a hot mess.

Didn’t he get shipped off as a special envoy to northern ireland or something?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:17:50pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:18:29pm

re: #480 Backwoods_Sleuth

Friday is probably a compromise for DeSantis who wanted the kids to have one more weekend on the beach.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:19:48pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:20:03pm

re: #482 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well done. :)

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Dread Pirate  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:21:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:22:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:23:39pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:23:40pm

re: #486 Dread Pirate

Katie Porter should be part of that oversight. She’s so good at digging for details.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:25:44pm

Northern NJ hospitals are starting to divert patients due to 100% capacity in overall hospital or ER facilities. 7 hospitals so far have indicated they’re diverting to other hospitals.

But sure, there’s no fucking crisis here. Nope.

Fuck the GOP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:26:58pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:27:53pm

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

His popularity has been taking a total shit over his refusal to call it, I would assume that’s why he has now changed his mind.

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:28:01pm

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Translation: They’re not a bunch of spring breaking morons there to spend money, so he has no use for them.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:30:48pm

So … CNN is now telling us to wear masks?

cnn.com

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:31:25pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:31:36pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:32:35pm

re: #493 Targetpractice

Translation: They’re not a bunch of spring breaking morons there to spend money, so he has no use for them.

There’s like 300 Canadians on that ship. There’s going to be another international incident over this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:33:07pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:33:22pm

re: #494 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

So … CNN is now telling us to wear masks?

cnn.com

The MyPillow guy is now making masks. What a coinkidink.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:34:17pm

Gov. Andrew Cuomo said there were 83,712 cases in the state and 1,941 deaths.

That’s up from 75,795 cases and 1,550 deaths on Tuesday. There were 965 deaths Sunday, meaning the number doubled in three days.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:35:43pm
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Belafon  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:36:52pm

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re at the whatabout stage.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:37:01pm

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Biden had an oped in January but I know Ben was too busy RTing his rag praising him for destroying something. Go away Ben.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:37:03pm

Whoopi is FIERCE

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:37:47pm

re: #502 Belafon

We’re at the whatabout stage.

The phrase that buck stops here means nothing to Ben whose phrase is the BS gets worse here.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:38:12pm

I called it! (Well sort of. There was no hand sanitizer or ammo horde so the whole county didn’t go up in flames but the truck is a write-off).

Truck carrying toilet paper catches fire in Texas

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Targetpractice  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:38:55pm

re: #504 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Whoopi is FIERCE

Same reason that they allowed Donny to keep phoning in “interviews” in 2016: They don’t take Bernie seriously as a candidate, they’re treating him like a sideshow attraction while they save all their venom for the other guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:39:02pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:39:15pm

re: #506 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Well since it was burnt they will have nothing to go on.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:41:34pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:42:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:44:00pm

today is supposed to be census day, yes?

no census form showed up here, and I’m not doing it online

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:44:36pm

re: #510 Patricia Kayden

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I really hope this destroys any credibility he has.

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lawhawk  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:46:45pm

*chef’s kiss*

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:55:36pm

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hey ben, who’s the president who “only i can fix it” and is surrounded by ‘only the best people’?

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danarchy  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:58:18pm

re: #491 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Part of me feels bad for the people on that ship, and part of me thinks they boarded that ship on March 7th after multiple cruise ships had already had problems and the pandemic was already well under way and they should have fucking known better.

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cat-tikvah  Apr 1, 2020 • 12:59:26pm

re: #514 lawhawk

*chef’s kiss*

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Well, that makes me want to send all my Pennsylvania tourist dollars to Florida ASAP.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 1, 2020 • 1:01:04pm

re: #503 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Biden had an oped in January but I know Ben was too busy RTing his rag praising him for destroying something. Go away Ben.

Just one month ago, the New York Times reported on how President Trump blamed the media and Democrats for exaggerating the coronavirus outbreak.

It’s destined to be an important document when historians look back at the 2020 pandemic.


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