Fantastic Negrito: “Chocolate Samurai” (Corona Quarantine Video)

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Have you lost your mind yet? I asked people around the world to send me footage of how they’re coping with coronavirus…this is what came back. A moment of light. We may be isolated behind closed doors, but we are in this together. #stayathome #togetherathome
- Fantastic Negrito

STREAM SONG: https://FN.lnk.to/ChocolateSamuraiYo
Director: Freddy Macdonald
Producer: Fred Macdonald
Editor: Freddy Macdonald
Production Company: Macdonald Entertainment Partners

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Citizen K  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:22:04pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:33:24pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:45:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:47:59pm

I don’t understand why they don’t use the power of inherent contempt.

If a conservative official blows off Congress, send the Federal Marshal Service after them and jail their butt until they appear.

Fifty days ago:

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ckkatz  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:49:07pm

Here’s one mask idea. It probably wouldn’t work for me since I still haven’t been able to follow the ones on folding fitted sheets. But for some I suspect that it could be pulled off.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:49:41pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2020 • 10:49:57pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

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This is Donny’s “very fine people” bit, that backtracking whenever he feels he’s been forced into taking an action he doesn’t agree with personally. He’s desperately seeking out something, anything, to use as an excuse to go back to his original Easter “reopen” date.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:01:17pm

California doesn’t really need the USA. All y’all are is dead weight.

//

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:02:58pm
Dr. Riciu Andrei
Dr Riciu Andrei is a board certified dermatologist who put together a team of medical professionals, researchers and data scientists to create an accurate COVID-19 resource website

coronawiki.org

Reports and data from every country reporting, including charts.

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Citizen K  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:05:44pm

It feels like it should concern me that it took this long for them to fact-check something as simple as this.

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ckkatz  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:08:43pm

Interesting story:

A clearer version of the song:

“YA GOTTA QUIT KICKIN MY DOG AROUND” - Turf Rollers (DK/SE) - Oldtime String Band

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Targetpractice  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:10:25pm

re: #8 Dread Pirate

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California doesn’t really need the USA. All y’all are is dead weight.

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Trump sees the fed/state relationship much like he does the US/allies relationship: As a protection racket. He views everything as a transaction, with praise and “favors” being just as valuable as cash. By the same measure, the most “debt” you accrue with him, the bigger the “payment” he expects in return. At this point, I doubt an announcement from the NY AG that they’re dropping all investigations into the Trump Org would be enough in Donny’s mind. He’d still expect Cuomo to deliver more, up to and include NY’s EC votes in November, before he’d forgive what he sees as “nastiness” towards him.

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uriel  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:11:52pm

Just some advice from a psychiatrist I read, (I’m paraphrasing here,)

“I try to keep my patients mindful of now. Right now, your family is safe. Right now, you have a home. Right now, you have the necessities of life.”

It’s good to prepare for the future, but don’t obsess about it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:14:47pm

Wyoming COVID-19 cases rise to 150, five critically ill in Fremont County (Goes to the Cheyenne Wyoming Tribune-Eagle)

Fremont County is in west-central Wyoming, and is very rural.

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Citizen K  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:17:43pm

Andrew Yang isn’t it. That’s all there needs to be said:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:28:00pm

The Wonkette Reader Aid Slush Fund intended to support Wonkers (and some non-Wonkers) during the epidemic has now raised $49,000 and distributed $36,000.

For several days GoFundMe halted distributions from the fund because they didn’t know what a Wonkette was or why it would raise money. That has been cleared up.

Wonkette Reader Aid Slush Fund Back Open For Business!

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:30:16pm

As a disabled person, I’ve long been the target of lectures regarding my supposed lack of drive, productivity and “personal responsibility”. I’m sad to report that this is spreading to the rest of us. This is making the rounds.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:34:31pm

It looks like the hot-spot of C19 in California is in the conservative-mafia controlled county of Orange. 6500 out of 11,000 total cases in the state. (59%)

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Dave In Austin  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:37:07pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:39:01pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:39:31pm

re: #20 Dave In Austin

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:42:28pm

re: #18 Sherlock Hound

As a disabled person, I’ve long been the target of lectures regarding my supposed lack of drive, productivity and “personal responsibility”. I’m sad to report that this is spreading to the rest of us. This is making the rounds.

Side hustle? That phrase is normally used by hunbots (multi-level marketing people, almost always women, trying to recruit new “distributors”).

Same here with my supposed lack of drive. It doesn’t matter what I learned in avionics I can’t use (it’s illegal for me), my licenses are useless for maritime electronics (no one in maritime businesses will hire someone with epilepsy), &c.

I got the same sort of comments when I was homeless. Lazy, &c.

Pro-tip for either disabled people or homeless people. You don’t have to like them. You don’t even have to support them. But you don’t have to offer up your opinion on why they are “failing” or how they are an “inspiration” (I hate that one too).

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:44:23pm

The protective rubber gloves compel me to do “jazz hands” while shopping. Don’t know how i feel about that.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:46:04pm

re: #20 Dave In Austin

Maria Muldaur, but she won’t let me..

YouTube

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:47:37pm
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:49:17pm

China is definitely not having a good year…..

China has confirmed two cases of African swine fever in northwestern Gansu province, the Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Affairs said on Thursday.

One outbreak occurred in a co-operative that had bought piglets from another province, while the second case was detected in a truck transporting piglets from elsewhere.

Swine fever has already decimated China’s huge hog herd and continues to spread, posing high risks for farms that are urgently trying to restock farms with young pigs.

reuters.com

African Swine Fever (ASF) does not cause human disease, unlike COVID-19. However, ASF is a viral hemorrhagic disease that is uniformly deadly to pigs.

From what I’ve read in the past, ASF has been a serious problem in China (domestic and wild pigs) and Europe (wild boar population) for several years. It’s spreading throughout Asia - slowly - despite attempts to contain it. AFAIK, it’s not in the America’s, at least not yet.

There is an experimental European ASF vaccine being tested that, so far, has not killed the pigs it’s been administered to, unlike previous ASF vaccine ‘prototypes.’ We’ll know in six months or so if it’s effective, but people are hopeful.

European pig farmers are justifiably freaking out that ASF will get into the EU’s domestic production, which could devastate European pork production and bear in mind that pork is essentially a dietary staple in many parts of Europe, much like it is in China. I think there’s been some culling of wild boar herds in Europe to prevent an ASF outbreak from entering domestic pig farms.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:50:37pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Give it 30 days, numbers double every 3 days, so 10 doublings equals 1000x worse. These are the good days. Flatten the curve!

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:53:35pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The guy who posted this claims to be a “cybersecurity expert”.

Pull the other one.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:57:13pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 2, 2020 • 11:58:32pm
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Renaissance_Man  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:06:19am

re: #19 Dread Pirate

It looks like the hot-spot of C19 in California is in the conservative-mafia controlled county of Orange. 6500 out of 11,000 total cases in the state. (59%)

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That’s a misprint, OC only has 656 cases. LA county has over 4k. It is notable that OC has more cases and deaths than San Francisco, which locked down much earlier and had cases earlier.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:08:43am

re: #32 Renaissance_Man

That’s a misprint, OC only has 656 cases. LA county has over 4k. It is notable that OC has more cases and deaths than San Francisco, which locked down much earlier and had cases earlier.

Thanks, my mistake. It looked odd to be that high but I didn’t crosscheck. It’s late, and I’m buzzed like a motherfucker.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:13:20am

re: #28 Dread Pirate

Give it 30 days, numbers double every 3 days, so 10 doublings equals 1000x worse. These are the good days. Flatten the curve!

It is worth noting that at this point, Italy had been progressively shutting down for a while, and it took them 5 days to double from 3k to 6k deaths. Spain roughly the same, just under 5 days. USA did it in just over 3.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:15:20am

WyoBraska Gives, a major fundraiser benefiting a number of area non-profits, has been cancelled.

The event was originally set for May 5, but has cancelled due to the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic, according to an email sent out by the Oregon Trial Community Foundation on Thursday.

The statement said that while the event is completely online, “we want to prevent the eminent insensitivity caused by asking individuals to donate at a time of uncertainty, job loss, and struggling business.”
starherald.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:20:08am

re: #31 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“Terry” here looks like a newly-minted foreign troll. Probably ought to be flagged up to Twitter.

Responding to that he posted this:

Click to Reveal
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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:26:52am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Pretty much all of the confirmed voter and election fraud I’ve seen in the news in the last 20 years has been Republicans.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:28:11am

Thirty-eight states are currently under stay-at-home orders.

Governor Gavin Newsom (D-Calif.) contacted Governor Pete Ricketts (R-Nebr.) to urge him to do the same.

Gov. Ricketts declined, saying he would stick with the Directed Health Measures (closing individual areas as coronavirus infections reach a certain threshold).

Those measures now extend to fifty-six of Nebraska’s ninety-three counties.

Governor Newsom said, “What are you waiting for? … What more evidence do you need? You’ll never regret overcompensating …”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:38:04am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:50:28am

I cant sleep.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:52:12am

re: #40 I Would Prefer Not To

I cant sleep.

I’m sorry to hear that. Is there something I can do to bore you to sleep?

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:53:07am

To that Andrew Yang op-ed, all I can say is that no one should ever have to “prove” their American-ness. By the same measure, your “right” to be in this country should not be automatically assumed because of the lightness of your skin, and I say that as a Honky-American.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:56:17am

re: #42 Targetpractice

To that Andrew Yang op-ed, all I can say is that no one should ever have to “prove” their American-ness. By the same measure, your “right” to be in this country should not be automatically assumed because of the lightness of your skin, and I say that as a Honky-American.

That’s what I should have put on the Census form: Honky-American for national origins.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:02:17am
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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:07:35am

re: #5 ckkatz

Here’s one mask idea. It probably wouldn’t work for me since I still haven’t been able to follow the ones on folding fitted sheets. But for some I suspect that it could be pulled off.

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Another is to use an IKEA pillow protector as base material, e.g. ikea.com
and sew a mask.
Remember to exchange daily and on exposure, wash in at least 60C. I’m seriously considering investing in a sewing machine.

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:10:33am

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🏡

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Here in Sweden, there have been instances of people faking other conditions that respiratory ones to get an ambulance sent to them, infecting the ambulance nurses.
Really graphic descriptions of what the infection is like in the press right now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:26:31am

re: #44 teleskiguy

That took a lot of work and a lot of people to get that guy out of there.

And now there’s an ICU bed in Telluride occupied by a chowderhead who thought skiing in an avalanche area in a pandemic is a good idea.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:27:41am
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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:34:04am

Facebook Post

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:38:36am

Look like that “rally ‘round the flag” bounce Trump was enjoying is ebbing away. It’ll be interesting to see what polling numbers look like in, let’s say, 30 days from today.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:40:30am

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Um…

Telluride doesn’t have an ICU, the victim was airlifted to Grand Junction. And

“Half the town of Telluride and half the town of Ophir was out skiing those hills the day of the accident,”

The victim was skiing with professional guides. It was a freak accident. You calling them chowderheads is kind of being a dick.

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:50:24am

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:54:05am

In local CoViD-19 news, the field hospital at the Stockholm International Fair with some 140 ICU beds is to open this weekend.
sverigesradio.se (Swedish)
It can be extended to 600 beds should the need arise.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:55:16am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:59:21am

re: #51 teleskiguy

Um…

Telluride doesn’t have an ICU, the victim was airlifted to Grand Junction. And

The victim was skiing with professional guides. It was a freak accident. You calling them chowderheads is kind of being a dick.

I’m not sorry for calling them chowderheads. They were especially selfish risking the health of over fifty people during a freakin’ epidemic. According to the article, those people who rescued him were the heroes here, not the skiier or his guide.

I guess that means I’ve overstepped my bounds again here.

Colorado is putting up “no parking” signs all over back country roads due to the outbreak, and there are countless people who don’t give a flying fuque about either the law or others they put at risk of disease if they need rescue so they can have a downhill thrill.

How many people were involved in that rescue who had to ignore social distancing rules and Governor Polis’s executive orders to rescue a skiier and a so-called professional guide? (I would argue you are not professional if you ignore the law and put others at risk.)

Yes, I read that he was flown to Grand Junction. The air ambulance service was shut down due to the epidemic, so they had to call around and find someone who could fly a helicopter. He also put the crew of the helicopter at risk of disease.

I’ll catch y’all some other time.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:09:41am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I’m not defending the victim. You’re right, the whole incident put people needlessly at risk. But you’re being very presumptuous of people’s motives in that part of the world. The doctor who treated the victim out in the field went skiing himself in the backcountry the morning of the accident. You don’t have to be sorry for calling them chowderheads, and I don’t have to be sorry in saying you’re kind of a dick for saying that. Whatever, man. You do you.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:10:19am

It’s that time of year. I got to get me a chocolate Jesus.

YouTube

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:11:01am

oops reload 57

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:11:20am

Can’t have numbers go up, it’s Texas damn it

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:21:45am
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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:24:09am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I guess that means I’ve overstepped my bounds again here.

This happens every time you get a little pushback to your comments. Relax. We’re not going to agree on everything.

Colorado is putting up “no parking” signs all over back country roads due to the outbreak, and there are countless people who don’t give a flying fuque about either the law or others they put at risk of disease if they need rescue so they can have a downhill thrill.

I get it. And your umbrage is not without some merit and truth. But again, all you did was read an Outside article. You have no idea about the people and culture of places like Telluride, Crested Butte, etc. Your assumptions and broad brushes about what’s happening in those places I find pretty off-putting. We’ve never seen anything like what’s going down in the world right now, and there’s vigorous debate about the ethics of backcountry travel at a time like this. But nah, we’re all just a bunch of selfish chowderheads looking for adrenaline rushes, I guess.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:36:59am

How about a gorgeous John Prine cover?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:49:41am
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ericblair  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:51:38am

re: #48 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

JARED KUSHNER: “The notion of the federal stockpile was it’s supposed to be our stockpile. It’s not supposed to be states stockpiles that they then use.”

I think it’s easier to understand if you realize that “us” means “the Trump family.”

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:51:48am

Some stats.

[Sauce]
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:57:35am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:09:51am

re: #61 teleskiguy

This happens every time you get a little pushback to your comments. Relax. We’re not going to agree on everything.

Yes, I’m slowly learning about what subjects I am not allowed to write about here, even when others write about the same subjects and take the same position I do. Religion is right out for me, as is skiing in violation of stay-at-home orders.

I get it. And your umbrage is not without some merit and truth. But again, all you did was read an Outside article. You have no idea about the people and culture of places like Telluride, Crested Butte, etc. Your assumptions and broad brushes about what’s happening in those places I find pretty off-putting. We’ve never seen anything like what’s going down in the world right now, and there’s vigorous debate about the ethics of backcountry travel at a time like this. But nah, we’re all just a bunch of selfish chowderheads looking for adrenaline rushes, I guess.

No you don’t get it. I am being generous with “chowderhead.” I don’t give a damn or a rodent’s behind about their lawbreaking culture putting scores of people at risk then spreading it to others.

You can use that excuse for anyone. You don’t understand the culture of religious people who are gathering in churches and there’s vigorous debate about the ethics of gathering people at a time like this. They are lawbreakers too, and I don’t give a damn about their lawbreaking culture putting others in their communities at risk.

The “ethics of gaming journalism backcountry travel” sounds as if there is a both-siderist argument to be made here. There is not. They are risking other people’s lives. Their bloody skiing can wait. Every single one of them is selfish, all of them. They know they are, and they don’t care.

Again the heroes of this story are those who went out and potentially risked their lives to save them, not the skiier or the unprofessional lawbreaking guide.

I’ll take a commenting break. It angers me when selfish chowderheads violate the law and put scores of people at risk so they can get a cheap thrill.

I’m off to bed, catch y’all some other time.

Sia - Cheap Thrills (Performance Edit)

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:15:07am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Jesus fuck.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:16:36am

Yeah, I guess I’m the asshole here.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:19:58am

re: #69 teleskiguy

Yeah, I guess I’m the asshole here.

I suppose that depends on if you’re defending lawbreakers who spread disease.

We’re sitting in our house because we are at elevated risk for severe illness, but I guess breaking the law to ski trumps disabled people’s right to live.

Or maybe you don’t like pushback (the thing you accused me of).

I’m off to bed.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:24:25am

re: #50 Dr Lizardo

Look like that “rally ‘round the flag” bounce Trump was enjoying is ebbing away. It’ll be interesting to see what polling numbers look like in, let’s say, 30 days from today.

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It was always inevitable that the “rally” bump would fade for three reasons:

1. The newness of his “change in tone” would wear off as it became obvious that words were not matching deeds. And when I say the “tone,” I’m talking about that sudden change in mid-March from “This is a Dem hoax!” to “This is a war and I’m gonna lead us to victory!” The whole “This is gonna be a bad time” BS from the other day? That was Donny play-acting, a con-man reading the room and changing his approach in order to keep the marks from being turned off. As we’ve seen in the past two days, it didn’t last because it never could.

2. His need for attention turning people off as he kept hijacking the “briefings” and using them as a substitute for the rallies he can’t attend anymore. The idea of holding daily briefings is nothing new and might have actually gotten some brownie points with voters had they stayed the domain of Pence and the other soulless husks. But that was never going to happen, so instead we have Donny out there day after day, what few new bits of info he might have to tell us turned into a 2 hour stream of consciousness that’s just making him look more and more absurd.

3. The “shit got real” effect, which really seemed to start kicking in within the last week or so as the “This is no worse than the flu” bit died an ignoble death in the face of rapidly rising hospitalization and death rates. See, in past epidemics and even the few pandemics, swift government intervention and international cooperation to find and isolate cases meant the media coverage looked like “scaremongering” and people responded negatively. But when you have a federal response that moves with all the speed of a dead dog nailed to an armchair (h/t Yahtzee), an approach to international cooperation that is wrapped around wads of cash, and partisan warfare between the Oval Office and the states, whatever public confidence there was that this would short-lived and minor withered like a slug under a mountain of salt.

Honestly, I’m surprised it took this long for that dead cat bounce to begin fading.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:24:58am

Early morning delight:

We bought a walking aid for Wife from an Amazon seller. They ran out of a complimentary accessory and said it would be forwarded. I said “OK, we’re locked down anyway”.

This is the last note from “Winnie”, who has Japanese characters in her address:

Thank you!
And due to the recent epidemic situation, please pay more attention to protect yourself and your family. and wear a mask when going out and wash your hands frequently. I wish you and your family good health, take good protection and fight the epidemic together.

Best regards,
Winnie from OasisSpace team.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:30:45am

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹🏡

No room for nuance in this discussion, I suppose.

FTR, no one broke any laws. It was an unfortunate accident.

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:41:33am

German word of the day: Der Hamsterkauf (The Local .DE)
As a side note, german Hamsterkauf has an equivalent in both Swedish (hamstring) and Finnish (hamstraus), as in hoarding things like a Hamster.
Cue jokes about “all supermarkets being closed tomorrow due to a pest problem (several thousand hamsters)”, as hamstrar can be both a verb for hoarding and the plural for hamsters in Swedish…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:43:25am

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

Damn no one’s even mentioned this entire month is 420. We’ve strayed so far from the Light.

I have given up smoking entirely just to be on the safe side

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:47:32am

re: #31 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Georgia’s GOP House Speaker says vote-by-mail system would be “devastating to Republicans”

voting in general is likely to be devastating to Republicans

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:49:15am

re: #44 teleskiguy

What if you need rescued in the backcountry right now? Serious ethical questions definitely arise. This Is What Happens When You Need a Rescue During a Pandemic

Unless you are out in the backcountry for some very valid reason, you should not expect a rescue. I see very little in the way of an ethical conundrum here…

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:54:24am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unless you are out in the backcountry for some very valid reason, you should not expect a rescue. I see very little in the way of an ethical conundrum here…

So the victim in this accident should’ve been left for dead. Got it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:00:24am

re: #73 teleskiguy

No room for nuance in this discussion, I suppose.

FTR, no one broke any laws. It was an unfortunate accident.

People should be staying the fuck home. And if they do go places, then not to where they might have to be rescued if they get stranded.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:08:02am

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:10:45am

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:15:42am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People should be staying the fuck home. And if they do go places, then not to where they might have to be rescued if they get stranded.

No argument from me on that score. But I guess I’m coming from a much different perspective. Outdoor recreation in the backcountry is a sublime form of social distancing, and the residents of Telluride got after it, there were no doubt hundreds of people skiing in the backcountry the day of the accident. Accidents happen. These guys were experienced and well-equipped. In hindsight it was very stupid and put a lot of people in danger, not so much the rescue operation, those happen all the time in the backcountry, but the virus. This is all something no human has ever experienced save for the really old people who were children in 1918. It was a shitty mistake, but I’m not going to pillory the parties involved because I know deep down the desire to do such things.

Or, I’m talking out of my ass and need to shut the fuck up and we need to put the victim up to a firing squad.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:20:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:22:16am

re: #82 teleskiguy

No argument from me on that score. But I guess I’m coming from a much different perspective. Outdoor recreation in the backcountry is a sublime form of social distancing.

don’t over-strain the arc of this discussion. I do my social distancing in the vineyards, where I would not need an airlift if I sprained an ankle.

People need to think of potential consequences of their actions and not be surprised if there is not someone along to bail them out when they put others unnecessarily at risk.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:23:07am

re: #83 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

And, from a different angle

Facebook Video

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:25:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:37:58am

re: #86 Patricia Kayden

The true number of coronavirus cases across the world could be “five to 10 times” higher than the 1 million Covid-19 infections that have already been confirmed globally, Australia’s Chief Medical Officer said

Duh, yeah. But some people seem to have an active interest in keeping the statistics low, especially when it’s “not our fault”…

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:41:51am

I don’t understand why the cruise happened given the current medical crisis but am glad that the passengers are being allowed to disembark in Florida.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:51:07am

re: #88 Patricia Kayden

I don’t understand why the cruise happened given the current medical crisis but am glad that the passengers are being allowed to disembark in Florida.

Even after the crisis abates, who is going to want to risk going on a cruise, especially among the key target group of elderly & retirees?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:52:17am

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡

“Terry” here looks like a newly-minted foreign troll. Probably ought to be flagged up to Twitter.

Responding to that he posted this:

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They are going to be awfully lonely. Hell, even Idaho is shuttering polling stations and going to mail in ballots. IDAHO for crying out load.

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:55:52am

Caution: Clear and present risk for Cuteh Overload:

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:57:30am
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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:02:37am

re: #83 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

re: #85 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It’s simply shameful >:(

Shared left and right.

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jeffreyw  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:05:50am

Hey! I’m ialkin’ to you!

Good morning!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:06:40am

re: #48 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Jared didn’t mean “our” as in Federal government, he meant “our” as in Trump family and that the stockpile would be doled out as they saw fit for favors and proper displays of public obedience.

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:30:47am

Ignaz Semmelweis: The Doctor Who Learned to Wash His Hands

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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:43:44am
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steve_davis  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:49:32am

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Side hustle? That phrase is normally used by hunbots (multi-level marketing people, almost always women, trying to recruit new “distributors”).

Same here with my supposed lack of drive. It doesn’t matter what I learned in avionics I can’t use (it’s illegal for me), my licenses are useless for maritime electronics (no one in maritime businesses will hire someone with epilepsy), &c.

I got the same sort of comments when I was homeless. Lazy, &c.

Pro-tip for either disabled people or homeless people. You don’t have to like them. You don’t even have to support them. But you don’t have to offer up your opinion on why they are “failing” or how they are an “inspiration” (I hate that one too).

great. well, I’ve spent my lockdown with the great courses, at ten bucks a month. I’ve learned a little latin, a bit about the divine comedy, and something about the controversy over just how many times human beings crossed the bering strait in migration waves. also, although i still don’t know the theory behind it, I can go up and down a bass guitar in ionian, dorian, mixylodian, locrian, aeolian, and phrygian. Sadly, none of these really help with the side hustle.

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steve_davis  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:51:24am

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

China is definitely not having a good year…..

reuters.com

African Swine Fever (ASF) does not cause human disease, unlike COVID-19. However, ASF is a viral hemorrhagic disease that is uniformly deadly to pigs.

From what I’ve read in the past, ASF has been a serious problem in China (domestic and wild pigs) and Europe (wild boar population) for several years. It’s spreading throughout Asia - slowly - despite attempts to contain it. AFAIK, it’s not in the America’s, at least not yet.

There is an experimental European ASF vaccine being tested that, so far, has not killed the pigs it’s been administered to, unlike previous ASF vaccine ‘prototypes.’ We’ll know in six months or so if it’s effective, but people are hopeful.

European pig farmers are justifiably freaking out that ASF will get into the EU’s domestic production, which could devastate European pork production and bear in mind that pork is essentially a dietary staple in many parts of Europe, much like it is in China. I think there’s been some culling of wild boar herds in Europe to prevent an ASF outbreak from entering domestic pig farms.

African Swine Fever (ASF) does not cause human disease, unlike COVID-19. YET. COVID 19 didn’t cause human disease, until it did.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:52:06am

re: #71 Targetpractice

It was always inevitable that the “rally” bump would fade for three reasons:

1. The newness of his “change in tone” would wear off as it became obvious that words were not matching deeds. And when I say the “tone,” I’m talking about that sudden change in mid-March from “This is a Dem hoax!” to “This is a war and I’m gonna lead us to victory!” The whole “This is gonna be a bad time” BS from the other day? That was Donny play-acting, a con-man reading the room and changing his approach in order to keep the marks from being turned off. As we’ve seen in the past two days, it didn’t last because it never could.

2. His need for attention turning people off as he kept hijacking the “briefings” and using them as a substitute for the rallies he can’t attend anymore. The idea of holding daily briefings is nothing new and might have actually gotten some brownie points with voters had they stayed the domain of Pence and the other soulless husks. But that was never going to happen, so instead we have Donny out there day after day, what few new bits of info he might have to tell us turned into a 2 hour stream of consciousness that’s just making him look more and more absurd.

3. The “shit got real” effect, which really seemed to start kicking in within the last week or so as the “This is no worse than the flu” bit died an ignoble death in the face of rapidly rising hospitalization and death rates. See, in past epidemics and even the few pandemics, swift government intervention and international cooperation to find and isolate cases meant the media coverage looked like “scaremongering” and people responded negatively. But when you have a federal response that moves with all the speed of a dead dog nailed to an armchair (h/t Yahtzee), an approach to international cooperation that is wrapped around wads of cash, and partisan warfare between the Oval Office and the states, whatever public confidence there was that this would short-lived and minor withered like a slug under a mountain of salt.

Honestly, I’m surprised it took this long for that dead cat bounce to begin fading.

1. That change in time lasted minutes.

2. The sad reality is that if this idiot had managed a modicum of humanity, he’d be in the 80’s approval. But he can’t do he’s not.

3. Nothing to add. +100

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:54:20am

re: #20 Dave In Austin

Hmm… last band we saw was Of Monsters and Men. Iceland is sounding pretty fucking safe right about now. I can work remote.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:55:06am

re: #73 teleskiguy

No room for nuance in this discussion, I suppose.

FTR, no one broke any laws. It was an unfortunate accident.

That no one broke any laws is the problem. I get everyone wants to ski… I’m sure you’re dying to. But these days ‘dying to’ is literal and applies to you and anyone who might have to save you. (You not being YOU, but anyone and everyone.)

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:58:25am

re: #88 Patricia Kayden

For the same reason that the Trump administration hasn’t shut down domestic air travel despite having absolutely no screening on either end of the flight (when you embark for your destination, or when you get off the plane). The air travel mode allows covid19 to spread nationwide, and those rich fuckers who take private planes are no different. They’re potential carriers and spreading it to everyone else.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:02:46am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even after the crisis abates, who is going to want to risk going on a cruise, especially among the key target group of elderly & retirees?

Everyone who likes cruises now.

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A Cranky One  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:02:57am

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:04:38am

Spamming these instructions left and right:
The other day, I saw a person on the subway who practically rinsed her hands in disinfectant.
The way you should do it is to take a roughly 2-krona coin sized* squirt of disinfectant, work it out on your palms, backhands and (most importantly) between your fingers. Done.
*: Roughly a CR2032 Lithium cells worth (but for everything that is holy, don’t put the disinfectant on the cell!).

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NetworkKed  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:06:11am

air travel screening is… problematic - you’re really going to want to screen before you get into the airport, and it creates a chokepoint where maintaining social distancing becomes difficult. Maybe you could utilize airport hotels, but smaller airports don’t have those. And with the contagious/asymptomatic phase you can only cut out a percentage of the danger.

I would suggest mandating large bright LED signs at all airport entrances saying “You are likely to get CV19 if you fly”. That would cut travel right down, which really should be the goal.

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steve_davis  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:06:36am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Duh, yeah. But some people seem to have an active interest in keeping the statistics low, especially when it’s “not our fault”…

this is actually great. it means mortality rates are significantly lower than reported. If it turns out that this is twice as deadly as the flu, rather than ten times, that MIGHT mean we can modify our approach down the road to protecting the most vulnerable while allowing, with some due measures of safety, like effective spacing, random spot testing, etc., society and the economy to actually reopen again.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:11:34am

re: #82 teleskiguy

No argument from me on that score. But I guess I’m coming from a much different perspective. Outdoor recreation in the backcountry is a sublime form of social distancing, and the residents of Telluride got after it, there were no doubt hundreds of people skiing in the backcountry the day of the accident. Accidents happen. These guys were experienced and well-equipped. In hindsight it was very stupid and put a lot of people in danger, not so much the rescue operation, those happen all the time in the backcountry, but the virus. This is all something no human has ever experienced save for the really old people who were children in 1918. It was a shitty mistake, but I’m not going to pillory the parties involved because I know deep down the desire to do such things.

Or, I’m talking out of my ass and need to shut the fuck up and we need to put the victim up to a firing squad.

The elephant in the room is that those guides are probably fucked because of lack of income, and were desperate to make money. Furthermore, as you noted, there is literally no part of this situation that violated any stay at home order. The state level order specifically encourages people to use parks, be outside, get exercise, etc, so long as social distancing is maintained. A back country ski trip checks all those boxes. Would people be freaking out if someone slipped and broke a leg taking a hike at a nearby state park and needed help? Would people suggest that an ambulance not help people that got in an car wreck on C470? Because it is all pretty analogous.

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mmmirele  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:18:02am

Oh, I probably should bring everyone up to date on my mortgage/surprise foreclosure:

I talked to a representative of Completely Fucking Incompetent Mortgage Company (CFIMC) Wednesday morning. I didn’t cuss them out, but I was extremely pissed off. I let them know they done fucked up. I mean, seriously! They had my cell phone number and at no time did they call me. I have the phone records to prove it. And I know, from working at the evil too big to fail bank, that collectors are standing by on outbound dialers* to talk to you about making a payment if you pick up the phone.

The upshot is they are reworking my account. I told them I would be very happy to ACH (that would be “send funds via the Automated Clearing House” aka electronic funds transfer*) what I owed to them, but, I said, “I don’t think I owe you people anything.” So far I have not received a statement. It appears CFIMC has been fucking over my loan since they assumed it in a fire sale from the previous loan owner on March 16, 2019.

So, for the moment, things appear to be OK. I still think I’m going to file a complaint at the very least with the appropriate agencies in Arizona and North Carolina once this is all over. And, I’m thinking to myself, I can’t even imagine how these companies are fucking over people who don’t have my background in banking and technology. In fact, it’s scaring the shit out of me, to be perfectly honest. Remember, these guys were going to foreclose over $1,069.21, which is 1.3 payments on my house. Who else are they fucking over?

ETA: the person I talked to is working from home, so there is that.

*signaling that I know what the hell I’m talking about.

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NetworkKed  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:19:51am

re: #109 steve_davis

What we need is enough tests to test EVERYONE in medium-sized cities with active outbreaks and the serological (or whatever) tests which let you know who has had it. This will let you get real percentages and CFRs, everything before that is a flat guess.

But the thing is that whatever its true death rate compared to the flu, it’s SPREADING at crazy rates and overwhelming resources, and doing disproportionate damage far above what simple CFR comparisons would indicate.

I haven’t seen a metric I like yet for comparing the impact of contagions - there are a half-dozen variables going around talking about spread speed, fatality rate, growth curves, population immunity and more, but all of them individually are just a slice of the larger shape of things.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:19:51am

re: #104 lawhawk

For the same reason that the Trump administration hasn’t shut down domestic air travel despite having absolutely no screening on either end of the flight (when you embark for your destination, or when you get off the plane). The air travel mode allows covid19 to spread nationwide, and those rich fuckers who take private planes are no different. They’re potential carriers and spreading it to everyone else.

See Blaine County, Idaho

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:21:29am

re: #110 Mike Lamb

The elephant in the room is that those guides are probably fucked because of lack of income, and were desperate to make money. Furthermore, as you noted, there is literally no part of this situation that violated any stay at home order. The state level order specifically encourages people to use parks, be outside, get exercise, etc, so long as social distancing is maintained. A back country ski trip checks all those boxes. Would people be freaking out if someone slipped and broke a leg taking a hike at a nearby state park and needed help? Would people suggest that an ambulance not help people that got in an car wreck on C470? Because it is all pretty analogous.

I disagree. If you’re walking in a park or in an accident (the PM of NZ advises people to not drive right now), you’re more easily accessible.

Now, you’re in contact with first responders who have been in contact with who knows what… Which is why the PM of NZ suggests not driving for a “get away”. And if you have to go to the hospital? You’re chance of contracting C19 exponentially rises.

And in the back country, rescue may mean helicopters or what have you. More people. More contact.

I get the culture and desire, but sorry, stay at home. Be smart (this ain’t smart). Survive and don’t add additional burden to healthcare facilities.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:26:53am

Not verified.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:28:48am

re: #20 Dave In Austin

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Cool, mine was Jackson Browne for big name act. Juvenile Characteristics if local acts

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Kilroy was here  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:29:15am

Crisis of Leadership: Republican Voters Denounce Trump’s Coronavirus Failure
An anti-President Trump group of Republicans released a new ad showing GOP voters across the country attacking the president over his response to the coronavirus pandemic.

The video ad, released by Republicans for the Rule of Law on Friday, features GOP voters in critical states in the 2020 presidential election, including Pennsylvania, Michigan and Arizona, criticizing the president.

“Even though I’ve been a Republican all my life, I can’t support Trump, and his response to the coronavirus is exactly why. He told us this infection would just go away, even as it ripped across other countries,” the voters say in the ad.
thehill.com

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:34:05am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:36:39am

re: #98 Teukka

Coronavirus, the ‘Soros bio-weapon’: How far right anti-Semitic conspiracy theories are infecting mainstream politics [Haaretz]

By calling it a “hoax” at the outset, Trump was sowing fertile soil for this shit to grow and spread.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:37:04am

Oops

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:37:44am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:38:00am

re: #105 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Everyone who likes cruises now.

I am sure that people will still go on cruises, but a lot of them are going to think twice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:39:23am

re: #109 steve_davis

this is actually great. it means mortality rates are significantly lower than reported. If it turns out that this is twice as deadly as the flu, rather than ten times, that MIGHT mean we can modify our approach down the road to protecting the most vulnerable while allowing, with some due measures of safety, like effective spacing, random spot testing, etc., society and the economy to actually reopen again.

The mortality rate is not a fixed factor, it is highly dependent on the quality and availability of medical care.

And in that respect we are well fucked.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:39:29am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that people will still go on cruises, but a lot of them are going to think twice.

Maybe. $199 for a 7 day cruise will fix them right up.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:40:52am

LOL

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:41:19am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even after the crisis abates, who is going to want to risk going on a cruise, especially among the key target group of elderly & retirees?

I still like going out to restaurants and I’ll be glad to go back to that when I can.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:41:21am

re: #114 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I disagree. If you’re walking in a park or in an accident (the PM of NZ advises people to not drive right now), you’re more easily accessible.

Exactly. This crisis is forcing people to sit and think about the social consequences of their actions over just maximizing their own personal enjoyment.

Stay home. If you need to get out, then go places you won’t need to be transported back from if there is an accident or unforeseen event.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:43:31am

re: #126 Belafon

I still like going out to restaurants and I’ll be glad to go back to that when I can.

But you would not go out to a restaurant where you lived, ate and slept with the same people in restricted spaces…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:44:11am

You sure have you fucking orange shitgoblin.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:47:20am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But you would not go out to a restaurant where you lived, ate and slept with the same people in restricted spaces…

If everyone thought like us here, Trump wouldn’t be president.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:49:33am

re: #115 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Covid19 got Miller. Not the other way around.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:50:03am
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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:50:37am

re: #131 lawhawk

Man, the first half of that sentence was such a tease.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:50:48am

re: #124 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s exactly what’s going to happen. There will be firesales on cruises, resorts, and all kinds of hotels nationwide to induce more travel once this settles down.

But we have to get there first.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:50:52am
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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:51:02am
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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:51:24am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:53:02am

OK, that just felt strange.
Morning trip to the l’il Walmart.
One of the few people without mask/gloves. SO many shelves ravaged. Positive was the bread shelves were pretty full
And, it just felt creepy, like everyone was walking on eggshells.
Plus, the drive over at 8:30 in the morning. Damn road s were practically empty

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:53:11am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:54:16am

My dad would have been 100 years old today…

This song played on the radio to wake me up…

You’re in a better place, Dad…

DANCE WITH MY FATHER (Lyrics) - LUTHER VANDROSS

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:56:21am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:58:34am

re: #83 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I can recall three different times when I received a document from Navy officers who thought sailor well-being was jeopardized. Each time it came after they believed their chain of command ignored the risk

Not enough updings for this

You know that’s what happened

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:59:51am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 6:59:54am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:00:49am
President Trump on Thursday said states need to work out competing bids for medical equipment among themselves, and continued to blame states for failing to stockpile medical equipment like ventilators. Governors are sounding the alarm that they are bidding against themselves, as well as the federal government, for much-needed medical equipment and supplies,” CBS News reports.

Federal government.
whazzit for????

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Jay C  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:03:09am

re: #50 Dr Lizardo

Look like that “rally ‘round the flag” bounce Trump was enjoying is ebbing away. It’ll be interesting to see what polling numbers look like in, let’s say, 30 days from today.

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My guess is that they are likely to be exactly the same, with MAYBE a point or two move.
The thing about Trump’s numbers (quite depressing, really) is that they have been bizarrely steady pretty much throughout his Presidency: basically a 45-55 split: he’s never had much of an approval rate (the BS RW hack polls that he loves to crow about aside) much higher, but OTOH, it’s never really been much lower.
How any thinking person could objectively analyze the Trump Administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic and judge it anything less than “utter clusterfuck” is beyond me. But then again, I’ve used a term that disgracefully, does not seem to apply much in the Era of Trump: i.e.: “thinking”….

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wrenchwench  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:03:25am

re: #132 Belafon

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Humans are the Manxes of the primates.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:04:49am

re: #145 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Federal government.
whazzit for????

If a whole bunch of governors got together they could negotiate fair contract terms for the things they need. They could call themselves something catchy, like “The United States of America”.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:05:21am

re: #115 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If true, I hope it kills him. And if his wife goes with him it’s a bonus.

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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:05:49am

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

And, it just felt creepy, like everyone was walking on eggshells.

I had to go to Home Depot the other day for some hardware, and got that same vibe. It’s like everyone is just beaten down by this thing. I said it the other day - it’s how I imagined living in the old Soviet Union would have felt.

And maybe that’s Trump’s real goal - to demoralize everyone to the point where we just give up and let them steal everything.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:05:50am

re: #145 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Federal government.
whazzit for????

What is Trump being able to make a profit off of Americans dying?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:06:20am

re: #144 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The way she described her symptoms is pretty identical to what I experienced, with the exception of loss of appetite. But the labored breath, the difficulty in breathing, yeah….that was me a month and a half ago.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:11:57am

re: #148 Decatur Deb

If a whole bunch of governors got together they could negotiate fair contract terms for the things they need. They could call themselves something catchy, like “The United States of America”.

There’s likely a bad actor in there artificially inflating prices.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:12:30am

re: #149 Ace Rothstein

If true, I hope it kills him. And if his wife goes with him it’s a bonus.

And please god, escalate to everyone.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:12:57am

re: #152 Dr Lizardo

The way she described her symptoms is pretty identical to what I experienced, with the exception of loss of appetite. But the labored breath, the difficulty in breathing, yeah….that was me a month and a half ago.

I’m really glad you’re ok.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:21:16am

3M just told Trump and Kushner to go fuck themselves

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:22:17am

re: #134 lawhawk

That’s exactly what’s going to happen. There will be firesales on cruises, resorts, and all kinds of hotels nationwide to induce more travel once this settles down.

But we have to get there first.

yes, a lot of people, especially the older retiree clientele, will be a lot more hesitant, so they will have to try to make it more attractive for younger customers

but those are people who do not have a lot of time on their hands and do not “appreciate” a fixed daily agenda…

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:22:38am
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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:22:45am

Florida fucked up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:25:43am

re: #144 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m a healthy millennial. Getting COVID-19 was so much worse than I expected

Because some clueless idiots told you it was no worse than a flu?

That some uninformed person implied that only old and infirm people were at risk?

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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:25:55am

RIP, Bill Withers. From the look of it, it’s not a COVID fatality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:26:41am

re: #145 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

President Trump on Thursday said states need to work out competing bids for medical equipment among themselves,

Think about how many Trump supporters proudly wave Confederate flags

This president is the very embodiment of the Spirit of the Confederacy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:28:23am

re: #161 makeitstop

RIP, Bill Withers. From the look of it, it’s not a COVID fatality.

I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know…

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ericblair  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:31:30am

re: #146 Jay C

My guess is that they are likely to be exactly the same, with MAYBE a point or two move.
The thing about Trump’s numbers (quite depressing, really) is that they have been bizarrely steady pretty much throughout his Presidency: basically a 45-55 split: he’s never had much of an approval rate (the BS RW hack polls that he loves to crow about aside) much higher, but OTOH, it’s never really been much lower.
How any thinking person could objectively analyze the Trump Administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic and judge it anything less than “utter clusterfuck” is beyond me. But then again, I’ve used a term that disgracefully, does not seem to apply much in the Era of Trump: i.e.: “thinking”….

Up until now, every Trump disaster was, for the great majority of his supporters, someone else’s problem. If you have no empathy for others and are extremely self-centered, you didn’t have to care. It was all scoring points, owning the libs, and keeping the brown people and the wimmens down.

So you can do that with COVID until your little circle of friends, your family, or your own precious irreplaceable self becomes suddenly and life-threateningly sick, and you’re thrown to the wolves in an overwhelmed system; then many will wake up. But it won’t happen one minute before that.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:33:04am
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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:33:24am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know I know…

This one is my favorite Withers tune.

Bill Withers - Use Me HQ!

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:34:17am

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:36:31am

re: #109 steve_davis

this is actually great. it means mortality rates are significantly lower than reported. If it turns out that this is twice as deadly as the flu, rather than ten times, that MIGHT mean we can modify our approach down the road to protecting the most vulnerable while allowing, with some due measures of safety, like effective spacing, random spot testing, etc., society and the economy to actually reopen again.

It’s very unlikely that mortality rates are only twice as deadly as the flu. Look at South Korea, which has first world medicine and did everything right including extensive contact tracing. Its mortality rate is 1.7% (and climbing), where about 3900 of their 10,000 cases are not yet resolved. So, for them, the CFR is 17 x seasonal flu. It will be far worse here.

The 9+% in certain first world countries may reflect under-reporting, as well as overrun health care systems.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:38:05am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because some clueless idiots told you it was no worse than a flu?

That some uninformed person implied that only old and infirm people were at risk?

Read the article. That’s harsh.

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:39:06am

Last one for now :)

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:49:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:49:13am

re: #170 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Read the article. That’s harsh.

I looked at the article.

That was not directed at the author but at the assholes spreading disinformation and outright lies.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:50:01am

re: #148 Decatur Deb

If a whole bunch of governors got together they could negotiate fair contract terms for the things they need. They could call themselves something catchy, like “The United States of America”.

then elect themselves someone to take charge and speak for them
call that position ‘president’
even give the people a say in choosing who acts as president

oh. i see the flaw now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:50:32am

re: #169 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s very unlikely that mortality rates are only twice as deadly as the flu.

again, mortality rate is dependent on the quality and availability of care, which is sorely burdened without proper measures, such as testing and isolation.

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mmmirele  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:52:05am

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KGxvi  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:52:21am

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

“Why is Jared Kushner in charge of anything?”

because trump is a sociopathic narcissist with no interest in government and no guiding ideology beyond “fame and fortune right this second” and any smart/capable person who might serve this nation during this administration has the self-respect to not prostrate themselves for the sake of this idiot’s ego, so trump had to turn to his idiot unqualified son-in-law to try and run this new family business that is going tits up like every trump family business that wasn’t “put your name on cheap but glitzy apartments and collect as much rent as possible before the creditors we just screwed show up” because the only people that can tolerate him for more than a few hours and that trump trusts to not screw him (since he thinks everyone thinks like him and he’s always looking to get one over) are family who know they are fucked if he fails (not that they think he is failing, because, again, idiots)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:52:22am

re: #172 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s message to the 6 million people who filed unemployments claims in the last week is that “it’s an artificial closing. It’s not like we have a massive recession or worse. It’s artificial because we turned it off … we will probably do more.”

he makes it sound almost as if closures were arbitrary and not a necessary measure made so by his lack of a timely and effective response.

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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:52:22am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:53:40am

re: #150 makeitstop

I had to go to Home Depot the other day for some hardware, and got that same vibe. It’s like everyone is just beaten down by this thing. I said it the other day - it’s how I imagined living in the old Soviet Union would have felt.

And maybe that’s Trump’s real goal - to demoralize everyone to the point where we just give up and let them steal everything.

personally, the isolation (sort of), distancing, etc is not bothering me too much
(privilege?)
it’s the fear. it’s not quite visceral, though it is real.
for my health surely

mostly it’s the fear i inadvertently infect mrs dm or my mom because it’s so unclear what efforts matter, what dont, and which ones matter a lot and which dont.

the ham handed response by the feds, and my state? almost sadly, expected.

also expected and where my comfort comes is that doctors, labs, researchers, pharma are all looking for solutions that will work. science is like that.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:53:48am

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

Holy fuck. I have to kill myself. It’s been nice knowing y’all. I agree (in spirit) with Michelle Malkin.

Commits seppuku.

But conservative writer Michelle Malkin seemed to suggest that Kushner’s Thursday appearance may have been a unifying moment for the country.

“America is finally united: NOBODY likes Jared Kushner,” Malkin tweeted. “NOBODY wants him in charge. NOBODY.”

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lizardofid  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:55:20am

Good morning everyone!

Watching the news i see one independent dining establishment owner after another, lamenting the fact that the take out and delivery business they are doing, would never sustain them through an extended crisis. I may be wrong, but were I a landlord with a tenet, who had been reliable for a number of years, I would do everything within my power to help them come out the other side. There’s going to be a lot of space available.

I expect we’re all going to find out how high up the food chain this “all in it together” stuff goes.

; )

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KGxvi  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:55:28am

re: #174 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

then elect themselves someone to take charge and speak for them
call that position ‘president’
even give the people a say in choosing who acts as president

oh. i see the flaw now.

Trump’s presidency is an argument for doing away with the electoral college as it exists today. Either go back to the old system where electors were free to vote their conscious or move to direct election. But overlaying direct democracy onto a system which was designed to be indirect democracy is simply not going to work anymore.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:56:27am

re: #159 makeitstop

Florida fucked up.

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if by fucked up you mean working as intended, then yeah

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:57:16am

Good? Bad? Anyone?

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:57:26am

re: #85 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Trump, the Navy, and Sec. Def Esper (and all the temps/actings at the top of the chain of command, are fucked.

This captain saw the chain of command absolutely ignore the health, safety, and welfare of our servicemembers and did what had to be done. He took one for the team, and the team - the Navy servicemembers responded out of love and appreciation.

That’s leadership. That’s how to command respect. The captain’s career may be ended doing the right thing, all while Trumpists are denying and minimizing the crisis.

All the while, Trump’s policies are doing actual damage to our military and our readiness is falling off a cliff - having 2 carriers out of commission due to the outbreak is a huge deal.

We have only a couple deployed at any one time. 11 total including the Ford (CVs, not counting the amphibious strike groups with LHAs). We have essentially 20% of the fleet carriers sidelined thanks to covid19.

How did this happen? Where were the protocols for shore leave cancellations? Quarantines prior to boarding for extended cruises, etc. It’s as though everyone ignored the threat across the Navy.

And all of this starts with Trump.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:57:29am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because some clueless idiots told you it was no worse than a flu?

That some uninformed person implied that only old and infirm people were at risk?

once again

anyone can get it
anyone can survive it
anyone can die from it

any further discussion is about likelihood

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Mike Lamb  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:57:41am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Exactly. This crisis is forcing people to sit and think about the social consequences of their actions over just maximizing their own personal enjoyment.

Stay home. If you need to get out, then go places you won’t need to be transported back from if there is an accident or unforeseen event.

I’m going to be on my mountain bike the second the trails here are clear. It is for my sanity. It maintains social distancing. The risk of me needing medical/first responder attention are minimal (less than 1%), as it was for the dudes that were skiing.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:58:12am

re: #88 Patricia Kayden

I don’t understand why the cruise happened given the current medical crisis but am glad that the passengers are being allowed to disembark in Florida.

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The voyage started March 7, when all this was just beginning to hit the fan, and before the word really got out. It’s been trying to get to somewhere it can disembark passengers for awhile now. Not everyone follows the news as assiduously as people on this board.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:58:37am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even after the crisis abates, who is going to want to risk going on a cruise, especially among the key target group of elderly & retirees?

Me, for one.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:58:52am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Think about how many Trump supporters proudly wave Confederate flags

This president is the very embodiment of the Spirit of the Confederacy

well to take a point from above, then the northern, or blue or whatever state gov’s could cooperatively get together and ‘the confederacy’ could be shut out of the market, right?

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KGxvi  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:59:03am

re: #182 lizardofid

Good morning everyone!

Watching the news i see one independent dining establishment owner after another, lamenting the fact that the take out and delivery business they are doing, would never sustain them through an extended crisis. I may be wrong, but were I a landlord with a tenet, who had been reliable for a number of years, I would do everything within my power to help them come out the other side. There’s going to be a lot of space available.

I expect we’re all going to find out how high up the food chain this “all in it together” stuff goes.

; )

If those commercial real estate holdings are mortgaged (most likely), then the landlord may not be able to afford helping out the tenants. My hunch is we will learn the same thing we should have learned in 2008/2009, “all in this together” ends with the big banks. Instead we let the big banks get bigger and they have no reason to give a fuck about anything other than their bottom lines, still.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:59:34am

re: #177 KGxvi

Well ranted, Sir.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 7:59:55am

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

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Given that he’s got no background in public health, already has plenty of stuff in his portfolio (reorganizing the federal government, bringing peace to Israel, combating the opioid epidemic, etc.), has had no major (or minor) successes when it comes to that portfolio, and has repeatedly demonstrated the Trump family ability for turning successful businesses into businesses on the brink of bankruptcy, this development does not give one confidence.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:00:49am

re: #181 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Holy fuck. I have to kill myself. It’s been nice knowing y’all. I agree (in spirit) with Michelle Malkin.

Commits seppuku.

The Trumpers hate Ivanka and Jared because they stupidly think that they’re “liberals” but I’ll take it. If this is what it is for Trumpers to see that Trump is an idiot who shouldn’t be trusted with re-election, I’ll take it.

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KGxvi  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:01:05am

re: #193 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Well ranted, Sir.

See, I was going for level headed and clear eyed analysis

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:03:04am

re: #150 makeitstop

I had to go to Home Depot the other day for some hardware, and got that same vibe. It’s like everyone is just beaten down by this thing. I said it the other day - it’s how I imagined living in the old Soviet Union would have felt.

And maybe that’s Trump’s real goal - to demoralize everyone to the point where we just give up and let them steal everything.

Trump’s goal is to be praised. He thought he could be the greatest president by making the numbers - stock market, polls, lack of coronavirus reporting - look good. But he going to make them all bad.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:03:23am

re: #177 KGxvi

“Why is Jared Kushner in charge of anything?”

sorry your answer is way to complex and charitable:

because trump is a sociopathic narcissist with no interest in government and no guiding ideology beyond “fame and fortune right this second” and any smart/capable person who might serve this nation during this administration has the self-respect to not prostrate themselves for the sake of this idiot’s ego, so trump had to turn to his idiot unqualified son-in-law to try and run this new family business that is going tits up like every trump family business that wasn’t “put your name on cheap but glitzy apartments and collect as much rent as possible before the creditors we just screwed show up” because the only people that can tolerate him for more than a few hours and that trump trusts to not screw him (since he thinks everyone thinks like him and he’s always looking to get one over) are family who know they are fucked if he fails (not that they think he is failing, because, again, idiots)

the answer is: boning the daughter

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:03:46am

So… In Norway, some asshat spat on police officers and threatened them with Corona back in the middle of March… 75 days in jail, court costs, etc…
dagbladet.no

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Jay C  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:04:07am

re: #185 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Good? Bad? Anyone?

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TBH, I thought Jeremy Corbyn was supposed to leave his Leadership position some time in January - Labour is only NOW naming a replacement?

I guess maybe Labour did dodge a bullet (of sorts) losing the last election: the Government in charge of the COVID-19 pandemic (whoever they are/were) is going to catch a lot of shit over their response - one can only speculate on how a non-Tory Government might have dealt - but the built-in structures of the British system means that there is not going to be great deal even a HUGELY disgruntled electorate will able to do about it for another five years.
Blimey.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:05:09am

re: #182 lizardofid

Good morning everyone!

Watching the news i see one independent dining establishment owner after another, lamenting the fact that the take out and delivery business they are doing, would never sustain them through an extended crisis. I may be wrong, but were I a landlord with a tenet, who had been reliable for a number of years, I would do everything within my power to help them come out the other side. There’s going to be a lot of space available.

I expect we’re all going to find out how high up the food chain this “all in it together” stuff goes.

; )

I suspect some of that landlord stuff goes like this: Restaurant A pays rent to landlord B who is paying on the property loan to bank C.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:06:03am

re: #94 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

West coast good morning!

Just shootin’ the sh*t
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:06:09am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he makes it sound almost as if closures were arbitrary and not a necessary measure made so by his lack of a timely and effective response.

he’s managing this entire ’ crisis’ as if it’s a reelection and pr problem
and the bodies havent pile up sufficiently yet
so the only way to turn this around is to paint a fake, rosy economic picture
he’s certainly got no other record to run on

likely wont work with the millions watching him from their TV at home and not at a job
nor collecting unemployment
or waiting for their check for 20 weeks

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:06:11am

re: #196 KGxvi

See, I was going for level headed and clear eyed analysis

I rant when I’ve had a bit of whiskey or rum. I give clear eyed and level headed analysis when I’ve had a smoke. I think Trump has no idea how little people want to hear from Jared at all. As I said even Trump’s supporters mostly do not like Jared and Ivanka. Their reasoning is wrong- they see them as liberals rather than what they are- in it for themselves and them only just like Trump himself but they do dislike them. Fact is this is a natural consequence of just wanting a “straight shooter” who “tells it as it is.” I see the past four years as a huge indictment on the failings of populist governance. It’s why I’m not surprised that both Trump and Sanders may leave 2020 discredited politically.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:06:33am

re: #181 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Holy fuck. I have to kill myself. It’s been nice knowing y’all. I agree (in spirit) with Michelle Malkin.

Commits seppuku.

Michelle may be right about this but don’t forget she hangs around with outright anti-Semites.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:07:05am

re: #201 Belafon

I suspect some of that landlord stuff goes like this: Restaurant A pays rent to landlord B who is paying on the property loan to bank C.

Loan subrogated to REIT D, repackaged into new loan paper issued by bank E, and sold to consumers E.

It’s the great recession paper chase, as no one wants to learn from the mistakes, and Trump and GOP were busy trying to roll back the regulations instituted after the collapse to prevent that kind of house of cards.

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sagehen  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:07:38am

re: #195 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The Trumpers hate Ivanka and Jared because they stupidly think that they’re “liberals” but I’ll take it they’re Jewish. If this is what it is for Trumpers to see that Trump is an idiot who shouldn’t be trusted with re-election, I’ll take it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:07:53am

re: #159 makeitstop

Florida fucked up.

I just emailed that story to my apartment complexes manager. They are planning to set up appointments so people that need to can use the business center’s computers to apply for unemployment.

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plansbandc  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:11:23am

re: #121 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

God I fucking hate him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:12:10am

re: #207 sagehen

Yeah that’s definitely the real reason. If Jared was a Christian, they would love him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:12:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:13:20am
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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:14:04am

Fuck Trump:

This is on Trump and the GOP. Their incompetence, malice aforethought, and greed have resulted in a massive death toll that is growing exponentially on a daily basis. We are seeing cases double every 3 days. Deaths are rising as a trailing indicator.

All of this was avoidable. It was preventable. Trump’s fucking lunacy in thinking ignoring the problem would make it go away. His idiotic belief that not testing and containing it when there were just 15 cases nationwide would make it go to zero.

Instead, we’ve now got 250,000 cases nationwide, 6000+ deaths, and the economy in shambles.

Our enemies and rivals would not have picked a better outcome had they tried to ruin the US. Trump’s actions are indistinguishable from enemy action at this point.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:14:08am

re: #186 lawhawk

Trump, the Navy, and Sec. Def Esper (and all the temps/actings at the top of the chain of command, are fucked.
…
And all of this starts with Trump.

fish stinks from the head down

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lizardofid  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:14:08am

re: #201 Belafon

I suspect some of that landlord stuff goes like this: Restaurant A pays rent to landlord B who is paying on the property loan to bank C.

There’s a reason capitalism begins with capital. ; )

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:15:12am
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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:15:51am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been pointing that out for weeks. Zero screening on domestic flights. Even less than that on all those charter flights where millionaires fly out of NYC metro to places like CO, WY, ID, in their vain hope of avoiding covid19. Instead, they’re spreading it to places that are least likely to have ICU facilities when the cases inevitably present at the few hospitals that are there.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:16:04am

Dotard pardoned a Navy SEAL of war crimes and Captain Crozier is relieved of duty because he cared about the health of his sailors and marines. America 2020.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:17:16am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was ticking off the the major events that I remember, which would start in the 1980s (I was born in 69). Her list is massive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:17:34am

oh

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Dr. Matt  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:18:58am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

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Can’t wait for her to blame the Media for “smearing” her….

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:19:33am

re: #197 Belafon

Trump’s goal is to be praised. He thought he could be the greatest president by making the numbers - stock market, polls, lack of coronavirus reporting - look good. But he going to make them all bad.

to put a fine point on it
whoever was president was gonna face a tanked economy, unemployment, and certain aspects of ‘botched’ responses to parts of the crisis. it is big, complex, and mostly, wholly new.

what trump is doing is making them all worse.
magnitudes worse.
because it seems they are doing every single thing wrong

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:19:46am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

And remember Team Trump preferred her to Collins who Trump tried to get out of running for this seat by offering him DNI and even a Trump toadie like Collins turned that down.

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Jay C  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:19:47am

re: #204 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I rant when I’ve had a bit of whiskey or rum. I give clear eyed and level headed analysis when I’ve had a smoke. I think Trump has no idea how little people want to hear from Jared at all. As I said even Trump’s supporters mostly do not like Jared and Ivanka. Their reasoning is wrong- they see them as liberals rather than what they are- in it for themselves and them only just like Trump himself but they do dislike them. Fact is this is a natural consequence of just wanting a “straight shooter” who “tells it as it is.” I see the past four years as a huge indictment on the failings of populist governance. It’s why I’m not surprised that both Trump and Sanders may leave 2020 discredited politically.

I think you’re basically on-the-mark: except that I think it’s likelier that Trump’s core supporters mainly (only?) want to hear him “tell it as it is” when “as it is” supports, applauds, and reinforces their existing views. Which are mainly based on prejudice.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:20:00am
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:20:42am

re: #218 Dr. Matt

Dotard pardoned a Navy SEAL of war crimes and Captain Crozier is relieved of duty because he cared about the health of his sailors and marines. America 2020.

This is the cancer of Trumpism. It’s metastasizing throughout our government.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:20:46am

Watching the original The Andromeda Strain

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:21:50am

re: #222 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

to put a fine point on it
whoever was president was gonna face a tanked economy, unemployment, and certain aspects of ‘botched’ responses to parts of the crisis. it is big, complex, and mostly, wholly new.

what trump is doing is making them all worse.
magnitudes worse.
because it seems they are doing every single thing wrong

+10

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:23:30am
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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:23:47am

re: #222 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

to put a fine point on it
whoever was president was gonna face a tanked economy, unemployment, and certain aspects of ‘botched’ responses to parts of the crisis. it is big, complex, and mostly, wholly new.

what trump is doing is making them all worse.
magnitudes worse.
because it seems they are doing every single thing wrong

And when that happens, you have to ask yourself, “is this still mere coincidence, or are these so-called mistakes being made on purpose?”

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:25:39am

re: #150 makeitstop

I had to go to Home Depot the other day for some hardware, and got that same vibe. It’s like everyone is just beaten down by this thing. I said it the other day - it’s how I imagined living in the old Soviet Union would have felt.

And maybe that’s Trump’s real goal - to demoralize everyone to the point where we just give up and let them steal everything.

I haven’t had that experience out here on the left coast. Maybe we’re just incorrigible optimists.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:26:22am

re: #201 Belafon

I suspect some of that landlord stuff goes like this: Restaurant A pays rent to landlord B who is paying on the property loan to bank C.

there’s gonna be a shit-ton of
- restaurant A folds
- commercial landlord b barely hangs on or folds
- bank c forecloses / takes over scads of real-estate-owned

there will be no market to sell it to. even fire sale it. who’s gonna want it and for what?

imo there wont ever be enough new businesses to fill all the existing commercial real estate.

as for new construction. why would anyone build a new mini mall now? this is way worse than 2009 and scads of those malls still have not recovered, let alone filled up.

all that real estate will have to be repurposed somehow.
someone’s got to want to buy it from the bank (with new financing)
to do something with it.
otherwise it’s a worthless, unmarketable asset.

housing real estate is different of course, but it’s also gonna be an upheaval and cascading event when people cant pay their rents.

and what happens after that? real estate tax revenues plummet
muni government budgets get slashed
services cut

the ripples will be…stunning

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:27:07am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:27:48am

re: #204 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I rant when I’ve had a bit of whiskey or rum. I give clear eyed and level headed analysis when I’ve had a smoke. I think Trump has no idea how little people want to hear from Jared at all. As I said even Trump’s supporters mostly do not like Jared and Ivanka. Their reasoning is wrong- they see them as liberals rather than what they are- in it for themselves and them only just like Trump himself but they do dislike them. Fact is this is a natural consequence of just wanting a “straight shooter” who “tells it as it is.” I see the past four years as a huge indictment on the failings of populist governance. It’s why I’m not surprised that both Trump and Sanders may leave 2020 discredited politically.

he’s already started blaming pence, who’s been at the helm for what, 3 weeks?
maybe he’s gonna blame jared too

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:28:33am

No comment needed.

NETWORK, Sidney Lumet, 1976 - I’m Mad As Hell and I’m Not Gonna Take This Anymore!

One of the greatest monologues in cinematic history.

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John Hughes  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:28:46am

re: #19 Dread Pirate

It looks like the hot-spot of C19 in California is in the conservative-mafia controlled county of Orange. 6500 out of 11,000 total cases in the state. (59%)

Your knowledge of Orange county may be slightly out of date.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/18/california-democrats-sweep-house-seats-orange-county/2048696002/

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:29:16am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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all some ‘brave’ reporter has to do is ask “where?”

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Kilroy was here  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:29:46am
Fauci warns there’s no ‘strong’ evidence anti-malaria drug works on coronavirus

thehill.com
See my surprised face…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:29:50am
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calochortus  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:30:03am

re: #231 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I haven’t had that experience out here on the left coast. Maybe we’re just incorrigible optimists.

Me too. Of course, I’m hardly in stores, but people seem reasonably upbeat, pleasant, and on a mission to get what they need and get out (all with appropriate distancing.)
Of course, we’re generally comfortable financially here, and the Bay Area Counties locked down early so there’s not the number of cases here that there are in other places.

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Jay C  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:30:37am

re: #223 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And remember Team Trump preferred her to Collins who Trump tried to get out of running for this seat by offering him DNI and even a Trump toadie like Collins turned that down.

I thought it was the other way round: I had read an analysis somewhere* that the Admin had wanted to push Doug Collins for the vacated Senate seat, but Georgia’s Gov. Brian (“coronavirus can be transmitted??”) Kemp put Loeffler in the job because she was one of his fundraisers/cronies from Atlanta, and he was trying to build up his own little political machine in GA.

Anyway, the voters of Georgia have a chance to boot her this fall: she has to run in the general to confirm her seat (filling out the retired Johnny Isaakson’s term til 2022). Actually, they have a chance to boot two Senators (David Perdue is also up).

* Internet so disclaimer

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sagehen  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:31:05am

re: #232 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

em>

all that real estate will have to be repurposed somehow.
someone’s got to want to buy it from the bank (with new financing)
to do something with it.
otherwise it’s a worthless, unmarketable asset.

Worthless, unmarketable assets are ripe for low-cost Eminent Domain-ing by states and cities to create affordable housing.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:31:08am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would add the “leap and land on you” method that precedes #1 and #2 there.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:31:14am

re: #222 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

to put a fine point on it
whoever was president was gonna face a tanked economy, unemployment, and certain aspects of ‘botched’ responses to parts of the crisis. it is big, complex, and mostly, wholly new.

what trump is doing is making them all worse.
magnitudes worse.
because it seems they are doing every single thing wrong

It’s impossible to know how this would have played out with a competent President. Given the disease is airborne and 80% of cases are mild, it may indeed have spread worldwide despite the best interventions. But the email lady would have had the benefit of the pandemic response team and the embedded expert at the Chinese CDC facility. This disease may have been stopped the same way as SARS, with serious and competent leadership. There is no way to know — but we are living in the worst of possible presidencies in facing this crisis.

Of course, Trump may be getting his advice from his BFF Putin and this is all a ploy to destroy our country.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:32:19am

re: #213 lawhawk

Fuck Trump:

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…
All of this was avoidable. It was preventable. Trump’s fucking lunacy in thinking ignoring the problem would make it go away. His idiotic belief that not testing and containing it when there were just 15 cases nationwide would make it go to zero.

…

whoever asked upthread why those cruises went out in early March, this is the kind of thinking.

first it was downplayed
after all where did those passengers come from? not china

and second, no doubt even the cruise lines saw what was coming and maybe figured “we can sneak one last one in. there’s still time”

complacency and profits

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:32:39am

re: #243 Rightwingconspirator

I would add the “leap and land on you” method that precedes #1 and #2 there.

co-sign

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:34:00am

re: #241 Jay C

I thought it was the other way round: I had read an analysis somewhere* that the Admin had wanted to push Doug Collins for the vacated Senate seat, but Georgia’s Gov. Brian (“coronavirus can be transmitted??”) Kemp put Loeffler in the job because she was one of his fundraisers/cronies from Atlanta, and he was trying to build up his own little political machine in GA.

Anyway, the voters of Georgia have a chance to boot her this fall: she has to run in the general to confirm her seat (filling out the retired Johnny Isaakson’s term til 2022). Actually, they have a chance to boot two Senators (David Perdue is also up).

* Internet so disclaimer

My understanding is that Trump backed Loeffer in the pending primary and they tried to get Collins to take DNI. I think Trump preferred Collins for the appointment originally though. Not that he’s any better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:35:01am

re: #244 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s impossible to know how this would have played out with a competent President…

could hardly be worse, although a lot of RW talking points will attempt to “prove” just that.

Trump had a very simple equation in his mind: “Strong economy = reelection”

He could only see Corona as a threat to the economy, and therefore a threat to his chances, rather than as a chance to accept that the economy was gonna take a hit, but to nonetheless demonstrate leadership and rally the nation to his side.

But he has no concept of leadership beyond giving orders to his circle of lackeys.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:35:07am

re: #205 Hecuba’s daughter

Michelle may be right about this but don’t forget she hangs around with outright anti-Semites.

Hence the seppuku.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:37:42am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:37:43am

re: #225 lawhawk

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subtle, and maybe only me
the nameless, faceless “the federal government” / “them” is a swat

under other circumstances “we thank president xx for working with us…”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:38:05am

re: #227 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Watching the original The Andromeda Strain

did that yesterday!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:39:15am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:39:49am

re: #234 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

he’s already started blaming pence, who’s been at the helm for what, 3 weeks?
maybe he’s gonna blame jared too

Got a link? I haven’t read such. 😂

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:40:13am

Another batch:

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:40:25am

re: #230 Teukka

And when that happens, you have to ask yourself, “is this still mere coincidence, or are these so-called mistakes being made on purpose?”

some of it is targeted and intentional

most of it is sheer incompetence by people who have no clue what theyre doing or supposed to do

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:41:56am

re: #243 Rightwingconspirator

I would add the “leap and land on you” method that precedes #1 and #2 there.

I get the cold, wet nose in my ear.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:43:27am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

could hardly be worse, although a lot of RW talking points will attempt to “prove” just that.

Trump had a very simple equation in his mind: “Strong economy = reelection”

He could only see Corona as a threat to the economy, and therefore a threat to his chances, rather than as a chance to accept that the economy was gonna take a hit, but to nonetheless demonstrate leadership and rally the nation to his side.

But he has no concept of leadership beyond giving orders to his circle of lackeys.

Every last one of his instincts to deal with covid19 have been spectacularly wrong. He ignored it. Downplayed it. Make up crap about its lethality and spread. Refused to test, because he thought high case numbers would tank his reelection chances, etc.

Every last one of those decisions caused even more cases and the death spiral of the economy coupled with mass casualties nationwide.

Right now, the epicenter is NY, but within days it’ll be GOP dominated states like TX and FL, because they took the Trump model and decided to ignore the health experts.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:43:29am

re: #242 sagehen

Worthless, unmarketable assets are ripe for low-cost Eminent Domain-ing by states and cities to create affordable housing.

that’s where i was going
you got it in one

commercial into residential

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:44:01am

re: #238 Kilroy was here

Fauci warns there’s no ‘strong’ evidence anti-malaria drug works on coronavirus

Just saw a headline from somewhere in Europe (Sweden? Was that you, teukka?) that said patients on it did worse than other patients.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:45:25am

re: #251 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Nope. I think you’re absolutely right.

Cuomo knows Trump is a vain and fragile ego know nothing, so thanking the federal govt without naming Trump is a way Cuomo reminds everyone that it’s the federal govt’s job to help states in crisis (of Trump’s own creation).

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:45:28am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

could hardly be worse, although a lot of RW talking points will attempt to “prove” just that.

Trump had a very simple equation in his mind: “Strong economy = reelection”

He could only see Corona as a threat to the economy, and therefore a threat to his chances, rather than as a chance to accept that the economy was gonna take a hit, but to nonetheless demonstrate leadership and rally the nation to his side.

But he has no concept of leadership beyond giving orders to his circle of lackeys.

bellowing orders is not ‘leadership’

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:45:49am

re: #240 calochortus

Me too. Of course, I’m hardly in stores, but people seem reasonably upbeat, pleasant, and on a mission to get what they need and get out (all with appropriate distancing.)
Of course, we’re generally comfortable financially here, and the Bay Area Counties locked down early so there’s not the number of cases here that there are in other places.

It might also be that Newsom is someone whose leadership we can look up to, and other regions don’t have that security.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:47:39am

re: #254 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Got a link? I haven’t read such. 😂

this am’s electoral-vote.com

Meanwhile, what about previous COVID-19 czar Mike Pence? He’s still on the job, too, which means we have two different people leading two different task forces with two different missions. That kind of decentralized approach is a Trump hallmark, whether it’s a wise approach now is an open question. One also has to wonder exactly how much authority Pence has, or ever had, as Trump has now thrown him under the bus several times, including at Thursday’s press briefing

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lizardofid  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:47:43am

re: #227 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Watching the original The Andromeda Strain

It would have never gotten past……………….. Space Force!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:48:26am

re: #208 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I just emailed that story to my apartment complexes manager. They are planning to set up appointments so people that need to can use the business center’s computers to apply for unemployment.

Already go a reply from her. She is already aware of the problem. She has already attempted to assist someone in applying. They were unsuccessful

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:49:36am

re: #258 lawhawk

Every last one of his instincts to deal with covid19 have been spectacularly wrong. He ignored it. Downplayed it. Make up crap about its lethality and spread. Refused to test, because he thought high case numbers would tank his reelection chances, etc.

Every last one of those decisions caused even more cases and the death spiral of the economy coupled with mass casualties nationwide.

Right now, the epicenter is NY, but within days it’ll be GOP dominated states like TX and FL, because they took the Trump model and decided to ignore the health experts.

all the above, plus the incessant lying about every goddamned thing

where’s the ‘million’ tests?

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:50:49am

re: #267 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

They finally got a million tests done earlier this week. 3 weeks after the first promise to do so. Of course, they followed that up with 4 million tests to be available, and we’re weeks away from that too. We are testing a fraction of what we need, and the slow pace makes containment impossible.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:54:04am

This is why Trump’s refusal to invoke nationwide shutdown that has consistent rules everywhere has deadly consequences.

It’s why Florida’s limited shutdowns of counties had no effect, because people would congregate next door. It’s why Cuomo’s initial cordon around New Rochelle was insufficient - by the time they acted, it was already outside the cordon, and no testing available to see just how far it’d already gone.

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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:55:09am

re: #235 Dr Lizardo

No comment needed.

One of the greatest monologues in cinematic history.

That movie has two - Ned Beatty’s soliloquy is pretty awesome, too.

“The World Is a Business, Mr. Beale”

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:55:41am
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lizardofid  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:55:47am

re: #268 lawhawk

They finally got a million tests done earlier this week. 3 weeks after the first promise to do so. Of course, they followed that up with 4 million tests to be available, and we’re weeks away from that too. We are testing a fraction of what we need, and the slow pace makes containment impossible.

And 100,000 ventilators. Some time IN JUNE. No doubt we’ll still need them, but, will just as surely need them sooner too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:55:57am

re: #269 lawhawk

Remember when restaurants used to have smoking sections that were right next to the non-smoking sections and you could smell the smoke regardless of where you sat? That’s essentially what having shelter in place rules for some states but not others is.

like a swimming pool with a peeing and no-peeing section…

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Jay C  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:57:43am

re: #263 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

It might also be that Newsom is someone whose leadership we can look up to, and other regions don’t have that security.

Also: Newsom has inherited a state government well-organized and well-set-up to deal with crises like this: as I see it the (underappreciated) legacy of years of having Jerry Brown as Governor. I’ve always thought Brown’s one major contribution to the future of California was realizing that having the world’s eighth-or-ninth-largest economy meant that the Golden State wasn’t just another “state” but a significant “country” on its own: and ought to be governed that way. And by up-to-date 21st-Century standards: the CA Republicans have never quite got this: hence their current status as most-definitely the minority Party/

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:57:47am

re: #20 Dave In Austin

Alison Krauss and Union Station in my case.

Does that mean I win since that includes being cooped up with Jerry Douglas?

:)

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:58:33am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:59:20am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

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danarchy  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:59:54am

re: #267 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

all the above, plus the incessant lying about every goddamned thing

where’s the ‘million’ tests?

Well we are at about 1.3 million completed tests now, finally, supposedly they are processing 100000 a day and there is a 7 day backlog, so the problem now doesn’t seem like a shortage of test kits, but the lab capacity to process them promptly.

covidtracking.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:01:29am

re: #234 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

he’s already started blaming pence, who’s been at the helm for what, 3 weeks?
maybe he’s gonna blame jared too

Of course. Trump can never fail, he can only be failed by someone else.

Remember, trump’s not responsible for anything.

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calochortus  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:02:01am

re: #274 Jay C

And maybe this will shut people up about having “rainy day fund” in government. The same folks that think it’s our personal responsibility to have a financial cushion tend to think governments shouldn’t. It might be “our money” but right now it seems to me that the rain is coming down pretty hard and having some money set aside might be useful.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:06:09am

re: #269 lawhawk

forget restaurants
remember when there was smoking on airplanes?

even first class
2 rows non smoking
2 rows smoking
people deluded themselves

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:07:29am

re: #272 lizardofid

And 100,000 ventilators. Some time IN JUNE. No doubt we’ll still need them, but, will just as surely need them sooner too.

while announcing them today as if that’s some BFD

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mmmirele  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:07:35am

Another day ending in Y, another steaming pile of bovine fecal matter from the Federalist.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:08:42am

I’m just not going to get outraged as the two medical ships are slow to take in patients. One reason is the COVID cases or not thing. The way to get in is through a hospital. So if you get hurt badly in a car crash or home accident paramedics take you to the hospital. you get tested for COVID. If negative paramedics take you to the Mercy.

I bet this gets sorted out pretty fast and those ships will fill fast. Making todays outrage and fingerpointing from the #filmyourhospital conspiracy assholes age quickly and badly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:08:55am
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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:09:32am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:09:59am

re: #279 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Of course. Trump can never fail, he can only be failed by someone else.

Remember, trump’s not responsible for anything.

the question is can you heap all that fail on the guy boning your daughter?

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:10:50am

re: #281 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

forget restaurants
remember when there was smoking on airplanes?

even first class
2 rows non smoking
2 rows smoking
people deluded themselves

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though the swimming pool reference is better

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:11:13am

re: #286 gocart mozart

That’s his solution to overdue library books, too.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:13:09am

So far my family two house isolation plan is working. The wife is with elderly mom who is on O2 and has a heart condition. Pretty sure we are at the place I don’t want the wife or bil going out to stores. Use delivery or pickup through the rest of the lockdown. Heck I think I’m about done going out in public short of a real emergency.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:14:29am

re: #286 gocart mozart

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Another one of Trump’s autocratic friends.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:16:07am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:17:37am

re: #251 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

subtle, and maybe only me
the nameless, faceless “the federal government” / “them” is a swat

under other circumstances “we thank president xx for working with us…”

[Embedded content]

He knows if he thanks trump in any way - by name - it’ll wind up in an ad.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:19:57am
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lizardofid  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:20:24am

re: #289 Decatur Deb

That’s his solution to overdue library books, too.

And failure to rewind before returning VHS tapes.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:20:32am

re: #284 Rightwingconspirator

I’m just not going to get outraged as the two medical ships are slow to take in patients. One reason is the COVID cases or not thing. The way to get in is through a hospital. So if you get hurt badly in a car crash or home accident paramedics take you to the hospital. you get tested for COVID. If negative paramedics take you to the Mercy.

I bet this gets sorted out pretty fast and those ships will fill fast. Making todays outrage and fingerpointing from the #filmyourhospital conspiracy assholes age quickly and badly.

The first case of COVID on those ships renders them nearly useless. They have to be careful.

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:21:51am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:26:33am

So is Jared Kushner trying to play the role of Edith Wilson? The country has a president who is totally incapacitated when it comes to performing his job so a family member has to step in and hide the situation from the American public.

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plansbandc  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:27:38am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

My dog has been known to lick my eye to wake me up. It’s his emergency go to when I won’t get up. :D

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:27:51am

re: #298 Hecuba’s daughter

Drunk History - Edith Wilson: The First Female President

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:29:24am

re: #290 Rightwingconspirator

So far my family two house isolation plan is working. The wife is with elderly mom who is on O2 and has a heart condition. Pretty sure we are at the place I don’t want the wife or bil going out to stores. Use delivery or pickup through the rest of the lockdown. Heck I think I’m about done going out in public short of a real emergency.

i know a lot of it is irrational / emotional
i felt surprisingly ‘contaminated’ after food shopping on wednesday

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:30:01am

re: #280 calochortus

And maybe this will shut people up about having “rainy day fund” in government. The same folks that think it’s our personal responsibility to have a financial cushion tend to think governments shouldn’t. It might be “our money” but right now it seems to me that the rain is coming down pretty hard and having some money set aside might be useful.

I’d like people to appreciate those pointy headed intellectuals, myself. And that the US Gov isn’t your kitchen table. Etc. Etc. Etc.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:33:23am

Harry makes millions of dollars expressing himself in writing. This is high art, imho:

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Ferdinand  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:37:10am

re: #219 Belafon

I was ticking off the the major events that I remember, which would start in the 1980s (I was born in 69). Her list is massive.

We saw her first special address portrayed (wonderfully) in Season 1 of The Crown on Netflix. Churchill’s final role was grooming her for her reign through her coronation and first challenges.

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John Hughes  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:37:21am

re: #69 teleskiguy

To some extent, yes.

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:37:32am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:38:19am

re: #306 Teukka

[Embedded content]

They ignored this and you can bet your ass that Biden’s team has the receipts.

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:38:47am

re: #306 Teukka

309
Rightwingconspirator  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:41:08am

Genuine loyalty.
thedrive.com
COVID-19 Plagued Aircraft Carrier Crew Give Sacked Captain A Thunderous Hero’s Farewell
The circumstances surrounding Captain Crozier’s removal from command remain murky, but his beleaguered crew appears to still ardently support him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:41:44am

No Tweets from the Mango Moron today? I don’t know whether to be happy or worried.

/

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:42:50am

re: #309 Rightwingconspirator

Genuine loyalty.

COVID-19 Plagued Aircraft Carrier Crew Give Sacked Captain A Thunderous Hero’s Farewell
The circumstances surrounding Captain Crozier’s removal from command remain murky, but his beleaguered crew appears to still ardently support him.

[Embedded content]

$50 says they’ll make a movie about this someday.

312
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:43:02am

re: #294 The Pie Overlord!

Hate isn’t a strong enough word any longer.

313
John Hughes  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:43:31am

re: #92 Patricia Kayden

Trying to tag along with them? Bet it can swim rings around them.

314
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:44:14am

re: #309 Rightwingconspirator

Genuine loyalty.
thedrive.com
COVID-19 Plagued Aircraft Carrier Crew Give Sacked Captain A Thunderous Hero’s Farewell
The circumstances surrounding Captain Crozier’s removal from command remain murky, but his beleaguered crew appears to still ardently support him.

[Embedded content]

Trumps administration pardons Eddie Gallagher. Punishes Captain Crozier.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:45:12am

re: #311 Eclectic Cyborg

$50 says they’ll make a movie about this someday.

Oh easily. There are gonna be a ton of Trump movies and TV in the years to come analyzing wtf was wrong with this administration.

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Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:45:30am

re: #308 Teukka

[Embedded content]

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:45:43am

re: #301 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i know a lot of it is irrational / emotional
i felt surprisingly ‘contaminated’ after food shopping on wednesday

That’s where a lot of the stress comes from. I get wiggy just getting into my own car, which I do maybe once a week. And I look at every single person as a vector. It’s hard not to.

318
makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:46:31am
319
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:48:30am

Did I post this? Because I don’t know WTF I’m doing right now.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:48:43am

re: #311 Eclectic Cyborg

$50 says they’ll make a movie about this someday.

Ken Burn’s documentary on 2020 will take a year to watch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:49:09am

re: #318 makeitstop

A thing about all the conservative radio hosts telling people to get back to work is that none of them have what they would themselves would call “real jobs.”

It’s just three hours of “you know what really grinds my gears.”

Their approach is to evoke gut reaction reaction.

That is why I generally ignore broadcast media. Although they are capable of informing us, they generally put information second to simply getting people to react at an emotional level.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:50:01am

re: #320 Belafon

Ken Burn’s documentary on 2020 will take a year to watch.

It will be a lot like The Civil War in that most of the protagonists will be dead…

323
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:51:49am

The Trump Tweets are a bizarro fireside chat.

324
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:53:00am

Hitch! 🤣🤗

325
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:53:09am

re: #269 lawhawk

I like this one better.

Watch out where the sled dog - oops wrong one
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:53:44am

There’s nothing quite like going down the rabbit hole of dog videos.

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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:53:47am

Are we at the ‘drag them out into the street’ part of the program yet?

I have so fucking many people I want to drag out into the street right now.

328
BeachDem  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:53:59am

Eerie here on the homefront

myrtlebeachonline.com

329
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:56:06am

This is my first day of work from home. Had a few minor issues this morning but it’s up and running fine now. I am very thankful to be an essential worker right now.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:56:40am

re: #308 Teukka

And it’s reckoned now that SARS CoV2 made the jump to humans about one month after the Event 201 exercise.

Proving the universe has a truly ironic sense of humor.

331
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:58:12am

Here’s something for your good news file out of Pittsburgh. Source: Newsweek

A potential vaccine for the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19 appears to kickstart the immune system of mice.

The PittCoVacc, a patch the size of a fingerprint covered in 400 tiny needles, triggered the creation of antibodies against the new coronavirus in mice, according to the authors of the paper published in the journal EBioMedicine. The antibodies were created “as early as 2 weeks after immunization,” the team based at the University of Pittsburgh wrote.

The authors said “it is still early to predict whether humans immunized with these vaccine candidates will have similar responses” and be protected from the new coronavirus, but their work demonstrates that a vaccine candidate can be quickly created.

Still a ways to go from a viable human vaccine that can be mass produced but an amazing achievement in a relatively short period of time.

332
lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:58:19am
333
Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:58:39am

re: #327 makeitstop

Are we at the ‘drag them out into the street’ part of the program yet?

I have so fucking many people I want to drag out into the street right now.

Not yet, because we’re still at the stage where the actual people that would get dragged out aren’t the ones responsible.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:00:28am

On a totally random note, I watched Die Hard 2 last night and damn did I forget how good the cast was in that movie. So many relatively well known actors. Still holds up as a solid action flick 30 years later.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:01:07am

re: #332 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Cuomo thumbs up, DiBlasio thumbs down, Trump pitchfork up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:02:28am

re: #334 Eclectic Cyborg

On a totally random note, I watched Die Hard 2 last night and damn did I forget how good the cast was in that movie. So many relatively well known actors. Still holds up as a solid action flick 30 years later.

I have never watched DH or any of its sequels. I suppose if somebody sat me down to watch it that I would, especially around Xmas. But I am highly selective about what I watch on my own.

I finally let my kids get me to watch The Matrix just the other week…

337
Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:02:48am

re: #330 Dr Lizardo

And it’s reckoned now that SARS CoV2 made the jump to humans about one month after the Event 201 exercise.

Proving the universe has a truly ironic sense of humor.

Nah. Finagle’s Law: “The perversity of the Universe tends towards a maximum”.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:02:56am

re: #335 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Cuomo’s performance wasn’t perfect either. Should he have gone big quicker and shut down public gatherings more quickly? Probably. Same with closures and stay-at-home orders. But he was still faster than others, including Trump, who still drags his feet and hasn’t instituted a nationwide standard.

I think we should also see that cross referenced to the response from WA, MA, and CA.

339
Hecuba's daughter  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:04:17am

There is a theory that the Black Death led to the collapse of feudalism

Capitalism was already developing serious problems in the the 21st century, with the huge disparity in wealth, automation, and off-shoring of jobs. This modern plague may prove fatal to capitalism as we know it. The Ayn Rand capitalism that afflicts us fails utterly at providing a process to minimizing deaths and supporting a population when a lethal pandemic arises — where the CFR is 1.5% under the best case scenario.

340
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:05:19am

re: #338 lawhawk

Cuomo’s performance wasn’t perfect either. Should he have gone big quicker and shut down public gatherings more quickly? Probably. Same with closures and stay-at-home orders. But he was still faster than others, including Trump, who still drags his feet and hasn’t instituted a nationwide standard.

I think we should also see that cross referenced to the response from WA, MA, and CA.

Yep

341
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:06:09am

re: #339 Hecuba’s daughter

There is a theory that the Black Death led to the collapse of feudalism

Capitalism was already developing serious problems in the the 21st century, with the huge disparity in wealth, automation, and off-shoring of jobs. This modern plague may prove fatal to capitalism as we know it. The Ayn Rand capitalism that afflicts us fails utterly at providing a process to minimizing deaths and supporting a population when a lethal pandemic arises — where the CFR is 1.5% under the best case scenario.

Capitalism when it lost Socialism as a rival got lazy. Economics should never be stuck in time.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:07:07am

re: #327 makeitstop

Are we at the ‘drag them out into the street’ part of the program yet?

I have so fucking many people I want to drag out into the street right now.

Not yet, but if I were a major conspira-liar or denialist like Alex Jones or James O’Keefe, I would be looking to disappear into a deep hole.

343
Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:07:11am

re: #319 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Failing to file a Suspicious Activity Report is like playing marbles with each marble being radioactive - get enough of them in a pile and you have a Demon Core….

344
Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:07:19am

re: #339 Hecuba’s daughter

There is a theory that the Black Death led to the collapse of feudalism

Capitalism was already developing serious problems in the the 21st century, with the huge disparity in wealth, automation, and off-shoring of jobs. This modern plague may prove fatal to capitalism as we know it. The Ayn Rand capitalism that afflicts us fails utterly at providing a process to minimizing deaths and supporting a population when a lethal pandemic arises — where the CFR is 1.5% under the best case scenario.

Could a quick vaccine prevent the necessary restructuring of our economy?

345
Teukka  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:08:41am

re: #343 Eric The Fruit Bat

Failing to file a Suspicious Activity Report is like playing marbles with each marble being radioactive - get enough of them in a pile and you have a Demon Core….

And when you have a demon core, it’s only a question of time before it goes crit and irradiates people in the vicinity, which then die long and drawn-out deaths, hurting the whole time they’re dying…

346
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:09:24am

re: #344 Belafon

Could a quick vaccine prevent the necessary restructuring of our economy?

Even if we suddenly got rid of Covid-19 tomorrow, everything that has happened already has already exposed major flaws in our economic and health care system, not to mention our race relations and other societal issues. Some lessons would be learned from that. Others, sadly, would not.

347
Eventual Carrion  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:09:33am

re: #159 makeitstop

Florida fucked up.

[Embedded content]

I repeat, these people are scum.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:09:49am

re: #344 Belafon

It’d still be months before a vaccine is approved, and months after that before it’s available to the population in numbers sufficient to stop the spread and calamitous death toll and casualties.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:10:01am

re: #341 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Capitalism when it lost Socialism as a rival got lazy. Economics should never be stuck in time.

Yes, it had to make some pretense of having a human face. But since the 90’s it has shed all of that and thrown the bulk of humanity to the dogs to tend to the whims of the 1%

350
SerialUpDinger  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:10:37am

hands down, my favorite Bill Withers song.

YouTube

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:10:37am

re: #161 makeitstop

RIP, Bill Withers. From the look of it, it’s not a COVID fatality.

[Embedded content]

RIP

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:10:48am

re: #338 lawhawk

Cuomo’s performance wasn’t perfect either. Should he have gone big quicker and shut down public gatherings more quickly? Probably. Same with closures and stay-at-home orders. But he was still faster than others, including Trump, who still drags his feet and hasn’t instituted a nationwide standard.

I think we should also see that cross referenced to the response from WA, MA, and CA.

A lot of the West Coast advantage probably just comes from lower overall population density. For once urban sprawl may have been a blessing.

353
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:10:59am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, it had to make some pretense of having a human face. But since the 90’s it has shed all of that and thrown the bulk of humanity to the dogs to tend to the whims of the 1%

It believed that it alone ended the USSR. Democracy did.

354
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:12:08am

re: #348 lawhawk

It’d still be months before a vaccine is approved, and months after that before it’s available to the population in numbers sufficient to stop the spread and calamitous death toll and casualties.

But the point is that we will never be truly and finally rid of this illness until we develop a vaccine, an effective treatment and/or a quick (as in nearly instantaneous) test.

None of that is likely to happen in the coming weeks or even months.

355
Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:12:14am

re: #320 Belafon

You’re too optimistic. His documentary about the last two weeks of March will be that long.

356
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:15:53am

re: #353 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It believed that it alone ended the USSR. Democracy did.

The USSR also collapsed under the weight of its own inefficiencies and inherent contradictions.

Namely, Gorbachev toured the west in the 80’s and saw that every small business already had a computer. He knew that the Soviet economy could not compete without them, but computers would end the state’s near-monopoly on the dissemination of information and literature.

So he started perestroika, the reform of the system, and introduced glasnost’, transparency, which led to people seeing clearly that pererstroika was not working because it was being stifled and confounded at every turn by people with a large interest in maintaining the status quo…

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:16:15am

re: #185 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
SEEMS PRETTY GOOD

Starmer has been described as ‘soft left’.[44][45][46] He supports common ownership and investment in the UK’s public services, including the NHS, as well as the abolition of university tuition fees.[47][48][49] He has called for an increase in income tax for the top 5% of earners and an end to tax avoidance by corporations.[47] He also advocates the reversal of the Conservative Party’s cuts in corporation tax and supported Labour’s anti-austerity proposals under Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership.[47][48] On social inequality, Starmer proposes “national wellbeing indicators” to measure the country’s performance on health, inequality, homelessness, and the environment.[50] He has also called for an “overhaul” of the UK’s Universal Credit scheme.[51]

In terms of foreign policy, Starmer has advocated for an end to “illegal wars” and a review of the United Kingdom’s arms sales.[47] During his leadership campaign, he pledged to create a “Prevention of Military Intervention Act”, which would only permit lawful military action with the support of the House of Commons.[52][53] Starmer had previously opposed the Iraq War, stating that it was “not lawful under international law because there was no UN resolution expressly authorising it.”[53]

Starmer has been criticised for his opposition to Brexit, with some Labour colleagues citing his support for a second referendum as a reason the party lost the 2019 election.[54] In response, Starmer reiterated his belief in his position.[54]

en.wikipedia.org

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:21:01am

re: #357 gocart mozart

SEEMS PRETTY GOOD
…..
Starmer has been criticised for his opposition to Brexit, with some Labour colleagues citing his support for a second referendum as a reason the party lost the 2019 election.[54] In response, Starmer reiterated his belief in his position.[54]

The Labour colleagues who suggest his Brexit position as the reason for the loss are as delusional as Bernie Bros — it was the dislike of Jeremy Corbyn that drove their defeat.

359
klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:24:03am

re: #301 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

i know a lot of it is irrational / emotional
i felt surprisingly ‘contaminated’ after food shopping on wednesday

I had a momentary bad-thoughts cascade last night about if mr. klys caught it and ended up in the hospital on a ventilator and I couldn’t be there. And how I would know that I was how he got it, because I am the one doing all the errands.

Knowing all the facts doesn’t help when the emotional brain gets involved.

360
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:24:43am

re: #358 Hecuba’s daughter

The Labour colleagues who suggest his Brexit position as the reason for the loss are as delusional as Bernie Bros — it was the dislike of Jeremy Corbyn that drove their defeat.

Plus a lot of people were so damn *fed up* with Brexit that they just wanted to get it the hell over with…

361
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:26:07am

re: #359 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I had a momentary bad-thoughts cascade last night about if mr. klys caught it and ended up in the hospital on a ventilator and I couldn’t be there. And how I would know that I was how he got it, because I am the one doing all the errands.

Knowing all the facts doesn’t help when the emotional brain gets involved.

It really doesn’t. I have had to keep myself from wandering too much into worst case scenario territory. My primary worry has been something happening to someone I love back in Canada and me potentially having to make the trip up there in this craziness…or perhaps having to accept the fact I won’t be able to go at all.

I’ve already lost one friend recently (non Covid19) that I haven’t been able to properly mourn yet.

362
lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:26:12am

Fucknut Trump is tweeting…. about a fucking pipeline.

363
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:29:30am

re: #362 lawhawk

Fucknut Trump is tweeting…. about a fucking pipeline.

It promised “70,000 jobs” as I recall…temporary, migrant jobs in which hordes of workers descend on small rural communities, create a housing shortage and temporary boom, and then move on…

364
I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:30:22am

re: #338 lawhawk

Cuomo’s performance wasn’t perfect either. Should he have gone big quicker and shut down public gatherings more quickly? Probably. Same with closures and stay-at-home orders. But he was still faster than others, including Trump, who still drags his feet and hasn’t instituted a nationwide standard.

I think we should also see that cross referenced to the response from WA, MA, and CA.

I think Cuomo and others were still somewhat in disbelief stage.

365
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:30:58am

(This is the USS Lexington at the Battle of the Coral Sea. She sank.)

366
calochortus  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:32:09am

re: #331 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s something for your good news file out of Pittsburgh. Source: Newsweek

A potential vaccine for the new coronavirus that causes COVID-19 appears to kickstart the immune system of mice.

The PittCoVacc, a patch the size of a fingerprint covered in 400 tiny needles, triggered the creation of antibodies against the new coronavirus in mice, according to the authors of the paper published in the journal EBioMedicine. The antibodies were created “as early as 2 weeks after immunization,” the team based at the University of Pittsburgh wrote.

The authors said “it is still early to predict whether humans immunized with these vaccine candidates will have similar responses” and be protected from the new coronavirus, but their work demonstrates that a vaccine candidate can be quickly created.

Still a ways to go from a viable human vaccine that can be mass produced but an amazing achievement in a relatively short period of time.

One really has to take these advances in rodent healthcare with a grain of salt. Yes, I know that’s where the researchers start, and that’s fine, but I know there have been a lot of things tried with cancer that appear to work well in mice, but aren’t useful in humans.

Still, fingers crossed.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:32:29am

re: #358 Hecuba’s daughter

The Labour colleagues who suggest his Brexit position as the reason for the loss are as delusional as Bernie Bros — it was the dislike of Jeremy Corbyn that drove their defeat.

Can’t it be both?

368
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:35:09am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It promised “70,000 jobs” as I recall…temporary, migrant jobs in which hordes of workers descend on small rural communities, create a housing shortage and temporary boom, and then move on…

Imagine, if you will, 70k humans invading any small town now? Complete devastation, inability to manage sick people. Unreal.

369
Alephnaught  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:54:12am

re: #362 lawhawk

Fucknut Trump is tweeting…. about a fucking pipeline.

[Embedded content]

I approve of your usage of “fucknut”. (Link to the first time I heard such a word, in the segment about 9:18 into this video.)

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:09:23am

I’m tired of feeling like I live in a Ken Burns documentary.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:28:03am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It promised “70,000 jobs” as I recall…temporary, migrant jobs in which hordes of workers descend on small rural communities, create a housing shortage and temporary boom, and then move on…

Yeah how did that work out in Williston, ND?

Article is from 2014. By 2018, the fracking craze was over & Williston returned to being a backwater shithole.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:35:12am

re: #205 Hecuba’s daughter

Michelle may be right about this but don’t forget she hangs around with outright anti-Semites.

Malkin is merely an older Tia Tequilla with twice the brain damage.

373
cat-tikvah  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:36:12pm

re: #195 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

My message: The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy, but we may have common cause.


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