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Dave In Austin  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:33:45am

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:35:14am

SMOTI strikes again.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:35:48am

Things are getting serious when the lotteries start fiddling with their rules, and PowerBall is now changing the changes they had decided upon just a few days ago:

Update: Game sales and interest rates to determine advertised Powerball jackpot

The Powerball Product Group today announced its decision to determine Powerball’s advertised jackpot based on game sales and interest rates. Following the April 8 drawing, guaranteed starting jackpot amounts and minimum jackpot increases will be eliminated, and future jackpot increases will be determined and announced by the Product Group prior to each drawing. Previously, Powerball® jackpots started at $40 million (annuity) and increased by a minimum of $10 million (annuity) between drawings.

“These changes are necessary to ensure that ticket sales can support the Powerball jackpot and other lower-tier cash prizes,” said Gregg Mineo, Powerball Product Group Chairman and Maine Lottery Director. “Our number one priority is making sure that the Powerball game can continue to assist lotteries in raising proceeds for their beneficiaries.”

The Powerball Product Group announced plans last week to reduce the starting jackpot to $20 million (annuity) and minimum jackpot increases to $2 million (annuity) between drawings. Those changes were scheduled to go into effect after the current jackpot was won. However, due to the evolving COVID-19 pandemic, the Powerball Product Group revisited the topic and decided Powerball’s advertised jackpot should be determined by game sales and interest rates effective following the drawing next Wednesday.

[…]

Lotteries hate low interest rates because then their advertised annuities have larger present cash values. With interest rates hovering around 1% that means present cash values are near future annuity values.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:36:02am

I thought my Trump cultist relatives would be a bit chastened by the ongoing shitshow exposing how Their Hero is actually destroying the US and putting their lives in danger.

Nope.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:40:09am

I think the Titanic simile is one that even the dumbest can wrap their minds around.

Going to test this one with the MAGAts

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Dave In Austin  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:40:34am

The Live Oaks here I CenTex are all blooming at once.

The amount of pollen is astronomical right now.

This isn’t helping thingz

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plansbandc  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:41:00am

Off topic so rare from me, right?

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:42:48am

The NRO nuts are pushing a conspiracy theory that this was a virus that somehow escaped a lab, and not naturally occurring.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:43:38am

OK, here’s the next line of responses coming at us.

Turns out the Coronavirus isn’t a problem after all!

This guy will hopefully burn in hell for what he is doing:

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plansbandc  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:43:53am

re: #6 Dave In Austin

Seriously. Me, dude, and dog are hacking and wheezing from the huge pollen count. Doesn’t help at all.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:44:47am

re: #9 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

OK, here’s the next line of responses coming at us.

Turns out the Coronavirus isn’t a problem after all!

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I really am tired of this stupid mindset.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:46:07am

I hope that not only a lot of these assholes get Covid but I hope it’s painful but I don’t want them dead. I want them to watch as Trump goes down in flames.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:46:51am

re: #8 lawhawk

The NRO nuts are pushing a conspiracy theory that this was a virus that somehow escaped a lab, and not naturally occurring.

The paper proving that it isn’t human made basically said to me that we don’t have the skills to make it the way it is, and at the same time, it acts too slow to be something humans would make.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:47:52am

re: #12 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I hope that not only a lot of these assholes get Covid but I hope it’s painful but I don’t want them dead. I want them to watch as Trump goes down in flames.

As Trump lay dying from it, I want Ivanka to whisper to him “They’re not your children.” :)

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:49:22am

re: #9 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

OK, here’s the next line of responses coming at us.

Turns out the Coronavirus isn’t a problem after all!

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add this:

to this

and get:

‘that iceberg’s not very tall. how much damage can it do?”

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:51:25am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:52:51am

Hey bill, you gonna fire them or protect their jobs?

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Kilroy was here  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:53:54am
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A Cranky One  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:54:04am

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:56:40am

re: #17 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Hey bill, you gonna fire them or protect their jobs?

They’re flailing.

In the next week, the states that didn’t lock down are going to get hit with a wrecking ball; already seeing nursing homes in Texas where 80% of the oldsters are infected.

Two weeks from now, there will be thousands of nursing homes across the Deep South, where the staff is too sick to take care of the patients.

The primary effects of the pandemic are the direct deaths
. But it’s the secondary & tertiary effects where we’re going to see the REAL body count.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:00:04am

re: #20 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

How are you feeling?

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Dave In Austin  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:00:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:03:09am

Also, again, when things are finally reopened (which will be long before things are truly safe) that does not mean that the economy is just going to power up again to pre-corona levels: a lot of businesses will be gone already, people will be avoiding crowded events and places like theme parks, multiplex cinemas, sporting or concert venues, and who is going to willingly stuff themselves into a crowded metal tube with recirculated air for a multi-hour flight?

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:07:38am

Secondary effects of Pandemic: Famine, war, opportunistic diseases finishing off those already weakened by COVID-19

Tertiary effects: Mass migrations from affected areas, people who see how churches & tourism were causes of mass-infections reacting angrily, increased random violence, suicides from depression

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:08:42am

re: #21 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

How are you feeling?

I’m all right. Still feeling a bit shaky, but can’t complain. Thanks.

Mrs Khal has the fever but not the cough.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:08:56am

re: #9 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

OK, here’s the next line of responses coming at us.

Turns out the Coronavirus isn’t a problem after all!

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In using lies and distortions to increase death and chaos in the United States, the denialists are deliberately inciting and enabling genocide, and they are probably doing so on behalf of a foreign government. They need to be arrested and tried under the Julius Streicher precedent. Follow his path, share his fate.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:08:57am

re: #9 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

OK, here’s the next line of responses coming at us.

Turns out the Coronavirus isn’t a problem after all!

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I have reported him for encouraging self-harm or suicide.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:08:58am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:11:27am

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

In using lies and distortions to increase death and chaos in the United States, the denialists are deliberately inciting and enabling genocide, and they are probably doing so on behalf of a foreign government. They need to be arrested and tried under the Julius Streicher precedent. Follow his path, share his fate.

I quite agree on this point. Newsweek did a weak-ass interview of Sean Hannity. Surprise! He weasels out from responsibility for branding COVID-19 a hoax, for minimizing the pandemic at every turn, and blames all the usual suspects, while exonerating Trump.

In the tertiary effects phase, the disillusioned turn upon those they blame for misleading them.

That’s when you get the whole Mussolini-dragged-behind-a-jeep phase of things.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:12:02am

re: #27 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I have reported him for encouraging self-harm or suicide.

Thanks for that. He is insufferable & contributing to the body count by encouraging a laissez-faire attitude to a pandemic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:12:54am

re: #22 Dave In Austin

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well, so much for the golden throne being Mango Morona’s “safe place”

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:13:00am

re: #22 Dave In Austin

Can’t they just say farts?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:14:20am

“No, 5G isn’t causing coronavirus 🤔” twitter.com

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danarchy  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:15:10am

re: #32 Belafon

Can’t they just say farts?

I doubt it is so much farts as the aerosolized spray you get when you flush your toilet. Just a friendly reminder to put the lid down before you flush and don’t keep an uncovered toothbrush within about 10 feet of your toilet.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:18:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:19:28am

second confirmed case in my county…connected to the first case announced last weekend.

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lizardofid  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:23:08am

re: #32 Belafon

Can’t they just say farts?

{Searching Amazon for N95 underwear}

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:23:19am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:23:25am

re: #28 Dread Pirate

Townhall column is playing this up, saying she contracted the “Wuhan” virus, of course.

The god-bothering troglodytes are all in with the bigotry.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:24:03am

re: #8 lawhawk

The NRO nuts are pushing a conspiracy theory that this was a virus that somehow escaped a lab, and not naturally occurring.

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Fact: The Wuhan has CDC DOES have offices near the Market where many of the first cluster of cases came from.

The only theory I give any credence to right now is that the virus may have been under study and accidentally released due to a containment/security failure and even then there’s been no definitive information to suggest that’s what happened. Hell knowing the Chinese there may NEVER be.

I certainly don’t buy any of this conspiracy theory “IT WAS PLANNED!” crap.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:24:24am

PALO PINTO COUNTY REPORTS FIRST CASE OF CORONAVIRUS

(Mineral Wells, Tx) - Officials at Palo Pinto General Hospital say a county resident has tested positive for the Coronavirus.

The hospital says the person was not tested at the hospital and they have no other information regarding the person. According to the Mineral Wells Index, the confirmation came after PPGH announced on Tuesday that one person tested at the hospital for COVID-19 was confirmed positive, however that person did not live in the county and was sent home to quarantine.

Lubbock has 120+ cases now. I guess releasing my genetically-engineered feral attack-hogs to patrol the county roads has had some positive results.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:25:35am

Also, it appears the Spectator/Scalia wing of the hate-right are pushing the secession meme again, over how states are handling this pandemic.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:26:20am
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calochortus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:27:06am

re: #42 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Also, it appears the Spectator/Scalia wing of the hate-right are pushing the secession meme again, over how states are handling this pandemic.

California, Oregon and Washington may consider secession at this point.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:28:13am

re: #25 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

I’m all right. Still feeling a bit shaky, but can’t complain. Thanks.

Mrs Khal has the fever but not the cough.

Please take care of each other.

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garzooma  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:28:22am

re: #34 danarchy

I doubt it is so much farts as the aerosolized spray you get when you flush your toilet. Just a friendly reminder to put the lid down before you flush and don’t keep an uncovered toothbrush within about 10 feet of your toilet.

On another note, scientists at U. of Michigan and Stanford are seeing if they can use sewage to detect outbreaks.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:28:26am

re: #44 calochortus

California, Oregon and Washington may consider secession at this point.

No, we aren’t. What you’re proposing is the Spectator fantasy. They want to believe these things because otherwise they’d have to acknowledge how messed up the American conservative experience has been.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:29:37am

This here is the heart of the American problem:

Arkansas church vows to continue services: ‘Jesus died with COVID-19 so that you didn’t have to bear it’

The American version of Christian fundamentalism is coming to a crashing end, and it’s going to attempt to take us all down with it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:29:58am

Oops, CL’ed
re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It promised “70,000 jobs” as I recall…temporary, migrant jobs in which hordes of workers descend on small rural communities, create a housing shortage and temporary boom, and then move on…

Yeah how did that work out in Williston, ND?

Article is from 2014. By 2018, the fracking craze was over & Williston returned to being a backwater shithole.

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calochortus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:30:09am

re: #47 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

No, we aren’t. What you’re proposing is the Spectator fantasy. They want to believe these things because otherwise they’d have to acknowledge how messed up the American conservative experience has been.

Probably should have put a sarc tag on that.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:32:00am

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This here is the heart of the American problem:

Arkansas church vows to continue services: ‘Jesus died with COVID-19 so that you didn’t have to bear it’

The American version of Christian fundamentalism is coming to a crashing end, and it’s going to attempt to take us all down with it.

Jonestown, but on a far bigger scale.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:32:22am

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This here is the heart of the American problem:

Arkansas church vows to continue services: ‘Jesus died with COVID-19 so that you didn’t have to bear it’

The American version of Christian fundamentalism is coming to a crashing end, and it’s going to attempt to take us all down with it.

Ironically, if the Right succeeds in killing off two million mostly elderly people, a big percentage of those will be Trump voters.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:32:50am

re: #51 Dr Lizardo

Jonestown, but on a far bigger scale.

That church is located in… wait for it… Jonesboro.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:33:04am

The roadsigns here in the metroplex state that people traveling from Louisiana have to self-quarantine. They probably should also include Arkansas.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:33:44am

re: #53 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That church is located in… wait for it… Jonesboro.

Which is where my wife is from and where the tornadoes hit.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:34:02am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:34:24am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:35:30am

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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:35:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:36:01am

re: #57 Sufficient unto the day…

Maybe the Jawzacise folks found a warehouse of unsold BDSM products and thought, “Ah ha! I’ve got an idea here!!”

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steve_davis  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:36:33am

re: #13 Belafon

The paper proving that it isn’t human made basically said to me that we don’t have the skills to make it the way it is, and at the same time, it acts too slow to be something humans would make.

Nobody would weaponize something like this. They’d do an H5 or an H7 strain—one of the ones that has a 50% mortality rate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:36:39am

re: #56 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Ignorant Fox host aching to start a hospital surge nationally:

Fox co-host says she is “losing faith” in quarantines given that so many people have coronavirus in NYC

Quarantines take time to work, lady. Also, YOUR OWN NETWORK is telling people this crap isn’t as bad as is actually is. Maybe if you actually told your audience to STAY THE FUCK HOME we’d make some more progress here.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:39:02am

Also following up on something from the last thread:

re: #366 calochortus

One really has to take these advances in rodent healthcare with a grain of salt. Yes, I know that’s where the researchers start, and that’s fine, but I know there have been a lot of things tried with cancer that appear to work well in mice, but aren’t useful in humans.

Still, fingers crossed.

Yes, I always have my grain of salt handy but the fact that even some positive developments are happening is a welcome change from most of the news I’m seeing these days and that helps to give me hope. So like you, I will keep my fingers crossed that this vaccine work will ultimately lead somewhere.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:39:31am

Here’s the uncensored version of Samuel L. Jackson’s “Stay The Fuck At Home”:

Samuel L Jackson Stay the fuck at home (Uncensored - NO EDIT!)

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stpaulbear  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:40:56am

re: #56 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Ignorant Fox host aching to start a hospital surge nationally:

Fox co-host says she is “losing faith” in quarantines given that so many people have coronavirus in NYC

She wants to get her hair and nails done.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:41:21am

Also happening today in right wing propaganda: trying to place the blame on Dr. Fauci for not taking the virus serious enough, by pulling out a January interview with Newsmax (why do legitimate people even bother to go on those shows????) that America didn’t need to worry about it “right now.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:41:39am

re: #4 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

I thought my Trump cultist relatives would be a bit chastened by the ongoing shitshow exposing how Their Hero is actually destroying the US and putting their lives in danger.

Nope.

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Amazing. The more The Heinous Anus fucks up the more my family worships him…

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:41:56am

re: #56 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Ignorant Fox host aching to start a hospital surge nationally:

Fox co-host says she is “losing faith” in quarantines given that so many people have coronavirus in NYC

Ah, America and our “instant gratification” culture.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:42:46am

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This here is the heart of the American problem:

Arkansas church vows to continue services: ‘Jesus died with COVID-19 so that you didn’t have to bear it’

The American version of Christian fundamentalism is coming to a crashing end, and it’s going to attempt to take us all down with it.

Yes, other parts of the world are not as overrun with these fucking pulpit pimps and science deniers…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:42:52am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:43:58am

re: #49 The Pie Overlord!

Oops, CL’ed
re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yeah how did that work out in Williston, ND?

Article is from 2014. By 2018, the fracking craze was over & Williston returned to being a backwater shithole.

I recall reading about those communities out on the plains: workers descended on the town, although they were making good money, they were shelling out up to $1,000 per month just to rent a room in a house. Nobody was going to build anything for them because they would be moving on with the pipeline…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:44:23am

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In fairness to Dr. Fauci, this was the day the very first Coronavirus case in the country was confirmed. He also probably assumed (erroneously) that the Federal government would be very quick to enact measures to contain the spread.

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danarchy  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:45:06am

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

Fact: The Wuhan has CDC DOES have offices near the Market where many of the first cluster of cases from.

The only theory I give any credence to right now is that the virus may have been under study and accidentally released due to a containment/security failure and even then there’s been no definitive information to suggest that’s what happened. Hell knowing the Chinese there may NEVER be.

I certainly don’t buy and of this conspiracy theory “IT WAS PLANNED!” crap.

Yeah, It is pretty conclusive that this is not an engineered virus. However I don’t think it is a coincidence that the Wuhan CDC where they specialize in research on the horseshoe bats that are known reservoirs of unknown corona viruses is just a couple of miles from the initial outbreak. We know how contagious it is, it would only take one researcher and one momentary slip up for an outbreak to start.

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calochortus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:45:51am

I might have accidentally made some caramel sauce this morning. I don’t actually have anything to put it on, but that can be remedied. To my credit, I did put the aforementioned caramel sauce into the freezer rather than eating it right away. (If, in fact, one could eat much caramel sauce at a sitting. Way too sweet.)

I blame some of this on the fact I’m going through wiping an old computer and reinstalling the OS. The wiping was slow, but fine-I could just go off and leave it. The install is a pain because my MacBook wants to go to sleep about every 12 minutes unless I move the cursor or click something every few minutes for the entire 2 1/2 or so hours this is taking.
However, this is a great opportunity to get an old computer out of the house and see that it goes to a student that needs it.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:46:00am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:46:03am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall reading about those communities out on the plains: workers descend on town, although they are making good money they are shelling out $500-600 per month just to rent a room in a house. Nobody is going to build anything for them because they will be moving on with the pipeline…

Or straight into the ground. Small towns do not have the capacity to manage their own populations let alone an influx.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:46:38am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall reading about those communities out on the plains: workers descend on town, although they are making good money they are shelling out $500-600 per month just to rent a room in a house. Nobody is going to build anything for them because they will be moving on with the pipeline…

I’m reminded of all the assurances from the wingnuts about how Keystone XL was gonna be a huge boon to all the towns along the route because of all the jobs that would be “created.”

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:49:14am

In case the real world isn’t horrifying enough, I bring you the fictional world of Local 58…

youtube.com

I believe THIS is the intro the story, but I’m not sure…

Youtube Video

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:49:47am

Seeing shit like this posted on relatives pages make me wish I could get drunk again…

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Dave In Austin  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:50:03am

I see patients who have recovered are starting to get their full due.

Expect this to blow up next week as well.

They are getting their Hospital bills for Covid 19 treatment AND testing.

Nothing’s changed. And I don’t really expect it to.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:51:42am

🤣🤣

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:52:29am

re: #80 Dave In Austin

I see patients who have recovered are starting to get their full due.

Expect this to blow up next week as well.

They are getting their Hospital bills for Covid 19 treatment AND testing.

Nothing’s changed. And I don’t really expect it to.

The bankruptcy courts will be swamped with small businesses and covid-19 patients.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:53:18am

re: #80 Dave In Austin

ICU bills will be in six figures.

At the beginning of this pandemic the insurance companies did not worry as hospitals aren’t doing elective procedures.

But I suspect as the cases go from hundreds of thousands to millions, the insurance companies are going to start to squirm.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:55:05am

re: #80 Dave In Austin

I see patients who have recovered are starting to get their full due.

Expect this to blow up next week as well.

They are getting their Hospital bills for Covid 19 treatment AND testing.

Nothing’s changed. And I don’t really expect it to.

Buddy posted this on FB:

“Bill for COVID-19 treatment in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, USA. Kept him a day or so then sent him home to self quarantine.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:55:40am

re: #83 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

ICU bills will be in six figures.

At the beginning of this pandemic the insurance companies did not worry as hospitals aren’t doing elective procedures.

But I suspect as the cases go from hundreds of thousands to millions, the insurance companies are going to start to squirm.

An “Act of God” to absolve them of any responsibility?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:56:17am

re: #82 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The bankruptcy courts will be swamped with small businesses and covid-19 patients.

and when hospitals are stuck eating all those unpaid bills, they can just raise rates for the rest of the insured, thus deepening the cycle…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:56:37am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:58:55am

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This here is the heart of the American problem:

Arkansas church vows to continue services: ‘Jesus died with COVID-19 so that you didn’t have to bear it’

The American version of Christian fundamentalism is coming to a crashing end, and it’s going to attempt to take us all down with it.

(Adjusting tinfoil hat)
You have to wonder what kind of pay-off would induce the pulpit-pimps to risk killing off their own marks. We cannot discount the possibility that they are just stupid and blinded by greed, but there may be something more sinister at work as well. We have seen in other areas, notably France, that outbreaks are linked to large religious gatherings. I have observed for some time that Russian influencers were working the Fundy circuit for years before Trump even declared his candidacy. Since the fundy quacks are some of the easiest people in the world to buy off, I wonder if this is a deliberate strategy to increase the spread of the disease, and thereby maximize death and chaos in the United States.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:59:02am

The real problem here is that as this grows legs. The infected poor won’t seek treatment and we know what that means.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:03:14pm

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

(Adjusting tinfoil hat)
You have to wonder what kind of pay-off would induce the pulpit-pimps to risk killing off their own marks. We cannot discount the possibility that they are just stupid and blinded by greed, but there may be something more sinister at work as well. …

I don’t ascribe malice when simple stupidity or delusion are likely answers.

Religious extremism arises out of deep personal needs. These needs are not malicious, just problematic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:03:23pm

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

(Adjusting tinfoil hat)
You have to wonder what kind of pay-off would induce the pulpit-pimps to risk killing off their own marks.

Two things: on-line donations are recorded, cash donations, well…sometimes those coins just slip through the crack, if’n you know what I mean…

Secondly, these Svenghouli pastors need to have you right there in person, subject to peer pressure and fixed by their piercing gaze and mesmerizing speech to compel you to fork over big sums.

And yes, it is clear that when Russia sees a cultural weakness in America, they are going to exploit it, as they did with spreading disinformation about Operation Jade Helm that got Wingnuts worked up to the point that the Governor of Texas felt compelled to send a task force to “investigate” what was going on…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:04:20pm

re: #89 Dave In Austin

The real problem here is that as this grows legs. The infected poor won’t seek treatment and we know what that means.

Remember how quick the Insurance companies were to correct Trump that they would cover TESTING at no charge, not testing AND treatment.

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stpaulbear  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:04:47pm

Another reason to feel sick via WaPo

In September 2018, the Trump administration received detailed plans for a new machine designed to churn out millions of protective respirator masks at high speed during a pandemic.

The plans, submitted to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) by the medical manufacturer O&M Halyard, were the culmination of a venture unveiled almost three years earlier by the Obama administration.

But HHS did not proceed with making the machine.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:05:47pm

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Dave In Austin  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:07:14pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:13:19pm

re: #90 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I don’t ascribe malice when simple stupidity or delusion are likely answers.

Religious extremism arises out of deep personal needs. These needs are not malicious, just problematic.

That explains the marks pretty well, they obviously are not committing suicide out of malice. As for the hucksters, though, they are undoubtedly acting routinely from greed and the lust for power, which ARE malicious. Their actions in this case seem to work against that. I am wondering why.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:13:25pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:14:51pm

COVID kills the pious as well as heretics. And it loves big groups of people crowded together.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:19:09pm

My old friend and skeptic co-conspirator Gilbert is an ordained minister, as are my son-in-law and my brother. My harsh view of fundy pulpit pimps is partly informed by what I hear from them, and partly from my own observations. My brother in particular thinks the funda-nuts are heretics and obvious charlatans, practicing what he calls “folk theology” while Gilbert calls it “recycled peasant superstition.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:22:48pm

re: #99 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My old friend and skeptic co-conspirator Gilbert is an ordained minister, as are my son-in-law and my brother. My harsh view of fundy pulpit pimps is partly informed by what I hear from them, and partly from my own observations. My brother in particular thinks the funda-nuts are heretics and obvious charlatans, practicing what he calls “folk theology” while Gilbert calls it “recycled peasant superstition.”

Wonder what Rev John Shelby Spong would have to say about all this:

Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism: A Bishop Rethinks the Meaning of Scripture

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:23:38pm
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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:24:40pm

re: #66 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Greg Kelly. Son of Ray Kelly, former NYPD commissioner. Formerly of Fox News (Fox5 NY). And I’m sure there’s more to that interview that indicates that the threat would be contained through aggressive testing and contact tracing.

But none of that happened because Trump.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:24:51pm

Any time I hear about these pulpit pimps talking up about how faith is gonna protect people from the virus, I think about the scene in The Stand (both the novel and the miniseries) in Boulder where part of the clean-up involved removing dozens of decaying corpses from the local church.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:25:19pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:26:03pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:27:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:28:01pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:29:02pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

When Kushner was talking yesterday about the federal stockpile being for “our” use, apparently that didn’t include federally run facilities caring for veterans.

I mean, you wouldn’t want to just give that stuff away when there’s money to be made…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:29:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:30:37pm

*snerk*

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Dave In Austin  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:31:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:33:06pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:33:18pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read that story earlier today, but that photo is just amazing.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:34:54pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Amazing how many changes that seem sudden and coincidental in this administration were always “in the works.” Best question would be why this particular change was planned weeks/months ago? What changed prior to this outbreak that led to them deciding that the stockpile was suddenly a dragon’s horde that belonged solely to the Feds?

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:34:59pm
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Amory Blaine  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:36:01pm

re: #37 lizardofid

{Searching Amazon for N95 underwear}

Us commandos will never submit to Big Underwear!!!!111!!!1yyyyt

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:36:27pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:38:50pm
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Sir John Barron  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:41:12pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

*snerk*

I thought the VP, Pence, was running the show? Or somebody with medical expertise, like the head of the CDC, or HHS. Oh well, I guess not.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:41:53pm

re: #115 Patricia Kayden

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It’s the same with so many different laws, the idea that any one state is an island unto itself and the problems within its borders are its alone is just ridiculous. Hell, the small county my mother grew up in in rural Kentucky is a dry county. Yet beer, wine, and liquor keep showing up left and right. Ain’t nobody going without alcohol if they want it bad enough, they just have to be willing to drive to the next county over. Even the local sheriffs feel it’s easier to just look the other way if they catch you with alcohol in the car, so long as you’re not drunk or carrying enough to start your own brewery.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:43:09pm
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Sir John Barron  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:43:37pm

re: #79 Joe Bacon 🌹

Seeing shit like this posted on relatives pages make me wish I could get drunk again…

Not a cult your the cult

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:44:26pm

lolololololololol

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:44:42pm

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:45:27pm

re: #34 danarchy

I doubt it is so much farts as the aerosolized spray you get when you flush your toilet. Just a friendly reminder to put the lid down before you flush and don’t keep an uncovered toothbrush within about 10 feet of your toilet.

Detecting traces of the virus is not the same as an intact, viable virus making it through the gut, but in any case, doing what you should do to prevent e-coli infection is always advised.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:46:58pm
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lizardofid  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:48:31pm

re: #126 Dread Pirate

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Food testers next?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:48:57pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:49:32pm

Incompetence.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:51:03pm

re: #119 Sir John Barron

I thought the VP, Pence, was running the show? Or somebody with medical expertise, like the head of the CDC, or HHS. Oh well, I guess not.

It’s like most jobs that would normally be the purview of a VP, something that Jared got added to his vast portfolio because Mike isn’t the one plowing Donny’s daughter. I don’t think Pence even had the job for a week before it was announced that Jared would be taking over.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:52:07pm

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

Incompetence.

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Welcome to vulture capitalism, where anything that’s not nailed down will be sold at a price, with the next step being to bring in crowbars to pull up the nails so they can be sold for scrap.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:54:20pm

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

Jesus, Fox is reporting this? I guess they see the writing on the wall if their demographic starts dying.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:57:10pm
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Sir John Barron  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:57:13pm

re: #130 Targetpractice

It’s like most jobs that would normally be the purview of a VP, something that Jared got added to his vast portfolio because Mike isn’t the one plowing Donny’s daughter. I don’t think Pence even had the job for a week before it was announced that Jared would be taking over.

Why even bother to have a CDC, an HHS, an NIH, Dr. Fauci, or anybody like that who knows anything?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:57:31pm

re: #132 Ace Rothstein

Jesus, Fox is reporting this? I guess they see the writing on the wall if their demographic starts dying.

It’s actually a story from like 5 days ago.

Fox (Carlson) is now onto the “experts are taking over… It’s a coup” stage of propaganda.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:59:22pm

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wonder what Rev John Shelby Spong would have to say about all this:

Rescuing the Bible from Fundamentalism: A Bishop Rethinks the Meaning of Scripture

Along that line, it’s interesting how many Evangelical and Fundy ideas are actually of modern, non-Biblical origin. Christian Fundamentalist itself did not exist as a concept until the 20th century, its growth really beginning with the publication of The Fundamentals: A Testimony To The Truth, a 12 volume set of essays by various conservative clergy and published between 1910 and 1915. It took the hinterland by storm, one result being the rise of young Earth creationism. This had previously not been taken seriously even among conservative theologians. Bishop Ussher had devised his famous, or infamous, timeline of creation in the 1600s but this had generally been ignored or ridiculed until the rise of the Fundamentalists. Similarly, the popular concept of the Rapture, taken as gospel among fundies, is not actually in the Gospels, or anywhere else in the Bible, and appears to have originated with the mid-19th century cult leader John Darby.
These movements are much more modern marketing than old-time religion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 12:59:57pm
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lizardofid  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:03:59pm

re: #132 Ace Rothstein

Jesus, Fox is reporting this? I guess they see the writing on the wall if their demographic starts dying.

I’m sure the angle they are going for is the ebil “international aid libs” are at fault for the shortages.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:04:58pm
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DodgerFan1988  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:05:29pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:08:37pm

re: #140 DodgerFan1988

May they lose every cent they have and perish in poverty.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:12:42pm
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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:14:15pm

Program note: The more you guys mention Jared doing the nasty with Princess Vanky, the more completely squicked out I get by the thought of it.

Just sayin

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:14:22pm

When your primary skill is being an incubator:

Teen Mom 2’s Kailyn Lowry Says She Would ‘Absolutely Not’ Vaccinate Her Kids Against Coronavirus

Kailyn Lowry has said she cannot see herself vaccinating her children against the novel coronavirus in the future.

As scientists and researchers search for a safe and effective vaccine against the virus, the Teen Mom 2 star, 28, was asked this week by a fan whether she would allow herself and her children to be vaccinated once one was available.

“Absolutely not,” replied Lowry, who has spoken out against vaccinations in the past, and is currently pregnant with her fourth child.

[…]

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:14:35pm

NJ cases are flattening out - not because they’re getting ahead of the outbreak, but because they’re running into resource limitations. They can’t test and process the kits fast enough.

“The rate of increase on positive tests is diminishing. But in fairness, that’s a little bit of an imperfect assessment,” Murphy told Bloomberg News. “Because as much as I want to test everybody, and that was our hope from Day 1, we just don’t have the materials from the feds to be able to do that. … But the rate has been flattening, percentage-wise.”

He’s right that it’s an imperfect assessment.

New Jersey has not significantly increased the number of test results it’s reporting each day, averaging about 5,500 over the past week, according to NJ Advance Media analysis of the state’s daily numbers. So while it may feel like the number of cases is evening out, that’s only because it’s capped by the number of tests that can be given, reviewed and then reported.

Instead of being able to test significantly more each day as new capacity is added, they’re constrained, which means no way to get ahead. Test results are lagging 7-10 days due to the types of tests that were being used - and are still being used.

Fuck Trump and his corrupt admin for fucking this all to hell.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:15:08pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:15:38pm

re: #88 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

(Adjusting tinfoil hat)
You have to wonder what kind of pay-off would induce the pulpit-pimps to risk killing off their own marks. We cannot discount the possibility that they are just stupid and blinded by greed, but there may be something more sinister at work as well. We have seen in other areas, notably France, that outbreaks are linked to large religious gatherings. I have observed for some time that Russian influencers were working the Fundy circuit for years before Trump even declared his candidacy. Since the fundy quacks are some of the easiest people in the world to buy off, I wonder if this is a deliberate strategy to increase the spread of the disease, and thereby maximize death and chaos in the United States.

We know that Franky Graham Cracker endlessly kisses Putin’s ass. So are his fellow Pulpit Pimps!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:17:01pm

re: #140 DodgerFan1988

Meh. Bad intentions meet unlimited funding. Here’s the scoop.

Amid the mushrooming coronavirus crisis, Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch are girding for a pandemic of public-interest lawsuits over misinformation and conspiracy theories dispensed by certain Fox News Channel and Fox Business Network personalities such as Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and Trish Regan.

According to a top Murdoch executive, the father-and-son media moguls are ready to go to war with potential plaintiffs such as the Washington League for Increased Transparency and Ethics—aka WASHLITE—an activist non-profit that filed suit on Thursday against Rupert Murdoch, Fox News and other defendants.

The lawsuit, which seeks “nominal damages” and “reasonable attorneys’ fees,” demands an injunction to prevent Fox outlets from “otherwise interfering with or undermining the legitimate control measures imposed within the State of Washington for the limited time period under which the pandemic is brought under control and until the pandemic is brought under control.”

The conservative outlet fired back—in a statement provided to The Daily Beast, and attributed to Lily Fu Claffee, Fox News Media’s general counsel—that WASHLITE’s lawsuit is “Wrong on the facts, frivolous on the law.”

Claffee added: “We will defend vigorously and seek sanctions as appropriate.”

West, 59, said he has been arrested numerous times in protest and civil-disobedience incidents, but claimed the rewards of successful lawsuits have allowed him to afford a lovely house in Olympia, Wash., overlooking Puget Sound and a fleet of pricey sports cars. He insisted this latest litigation against Fox is not a public-relations stunt.

“This might seem strange to you,” he added, “but I make a very good living beating the government in court”—mostly suing local jurisdictions, politicians, and taxpayer-funded agencies using Washington’s public records and open records laws. “I’ve gotten a number of six-figure awards…I have a collection of European sports cars. I drive a Jaguar. I have three Mercedes 450 SLs and an Alfa Romeo. My house overlooks the water and it was purchased with money from the liquor control board.”

West won a $192,000 settlement after filing an open-meetings lawsuit against the agency that governs Washington’s legalized marijuana industry.

The Murdoch exec, however, said his bosses won’t cave so easily. Former Fox Business anchor Trish Regan—who on March 9 claimed that the enemies of President Donald Trump were plotting to use the novel coronavirus outbreak to re-impeach him—lost her show, in part, to mollify a chorus of Fox critics.

“The strategy is no settlements, even if it costs way more to fight the lawsuit and seek sanctions for ambulance-chasing lawyers,” the Murdoch exec told The Daily Beast, noting that the Murdochs retained Williams & Connolly in 2018 and engineered the dismissal of two federal lawsuits over Fox News’ conspiracy-mongering in the July 2016 robbery shooting-death of Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich.

The current lawsuit, and others like it, could meet with a similar fate on First Amendment grounds.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:20:39pm

re: #148 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The person who needs to sue Fox is the woman whose husband died. She has standing and proof of harm.

I hope someone sues Fox our of existence, but I don’t think suit is it.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:24:51pm

re: #145 lawhawk

I suspect testing limits are going to be reflected in the counts for some time.

Even death counts are going to be affected, because unless a test is conducted, a death may not be ascribed to Covid-19 as the cause.

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:26:34pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The rise of the Stone-Campbell Movement (a return to an idealized “early Christianity” i.e… entirely made up around Scots-Irish and existing Protestant American cultural norms and constraints) of the early 1800’s quickly grew and then led to the Dominionist hellscape we see today. They are primitive thinkers and ruthless. No amount of classical logic, intellectual reason, or fact-based evidence can sway their behavior or views. They are a broad enormous cult fed by a astroturfed Top-down/ groundswell circle jerk of support.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:27:13pm
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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:27:26pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:29:24pm

re: #150 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I suspect testing limits are going to be reflected in the counts for some time.

Even death counts are going to be affected, because unless a test is conducted, a death may not be ascribed to Covid-19 as the cause.

There’s going to be debates and arguments for years to come about the “true” body count of this outbreak.

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ericblair  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:33:26pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

department of health and human services working for months on the language on the stockpiles website and just finished this morning what a fuckin coincidence

TITLE 42 / CHAPTER 6A / SUBCHAPTER XXVI / Part B / § 300hh-10

(5) Logistics
In coordination with the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the General Services Administration, and other public and private entities, provide logistical support for medical and public health aspects of Federal responses to public health emergencies. Such logistical support shall include working with other relevant Federal, State, local, Tribal, and territorial public health officials and private sector entities to identify the critical infrastructure assets, systems, and networks needed for the proper functioning of the health care and public health sectors that need to be maintained through any emergency or disaster, including entities capable of assisting with, responding to, and mitigating the effect of a public health emergency, including a public health emergency determined by the Secretary pursuant to section 247d(a) of this title or an emergency or major disaster declared by the President under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act or the National Emergencies Act, including by establishing methods to exchange critical information and deliver products consumed or used to preserve, protect, or sustain life, health, or safety, and sharing of specialized expertise.

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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:33:32pm

Heh.

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danarchy  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:34:18pm

re: #149 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The person who needs to sue Fox is the woman whose husband died. She has standing and proof of harm.

I hope someone sues Fox our of existence, but I don’t think suit is it.

Yeah I doubt she has a case. They took something that was marked not for human consumption in a ridiculously high dosage. You may not like that Fox was hyping an unproven treatment, but it was a treatment that was being used widely in Europe and China and I am pretty sure they didn’t actually tell anyone to self medicate.

I think this is one of those cases where a jury might award a big settlement because that is what juries do, and then it would be overturned on appeal.

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plansbandc  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:38:38pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here in NM, we’ll put an egg on top of pretty much anything. That looks awesome!

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plansbandc  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:40:24pm

re: #144 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This gives me sweet meteor of death thoughts.

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:40:41pm

re: #147 Joe Bacon 🌹

Putin is recognized as “white” by our American Nationalists like F. Graham. That and the fact he is openly hostile to gays means instant fellow travellers.

Never mind that “white” as recognized by our American racists does not concern Putin as he is a specifically Russian Nationalist, another noxious ideology bent on restoring former glory and lands once held by past Russian empires. Putin cares not one iota about Americans of any color except for the amount he can extract support from our malignant narcissists, con men, and racists. Erasing existing sanctions and expanding the Russian empire is all he cares about.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:41:16pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:43:50pm

re: #161 Patricia Kayden

Another one of DT’s ardent supporters.
en.wikipedia.org

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:44:22pm

re: #161 Patricia Kayden

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“All the information” is (of course) Repub code for “My base will eat me alive if I don’t satiate their need to anger the libs.”

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:45:30pm

re: #81 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I need more. What did he do next? 😂 😂

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:45:55pm

One of my miles will be for him tomorrow.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:46:12pm

re: #160 Florida Panhandler

Putin is recognized as “white” by our American Nationalists like F. Graham. That and the fact he is openly hostile to gays means instant fellow travellers.

Never mind that “white” as recognized by our American racists does not concern Putin as he is a specifically Russian Nationalist, another noxious ideology bent on restoring former glory and lands once held by past Russian empires. Putin cares not one iota about Americans of any color except for the amount he can extract support from our malignant narcissists, con men, and racists. Erasing existing sanctions and expanding the Russian empire is all he cares about.

Putin’s use of the Orthodox Church too. Putin has successfully used nostalgia for both the USSR and Russian Empire.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:46:12pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:47:14pm

re: #132 Ace Rothstein

Jesus, Fox is reporting this? I guess they see the writing on the wall if their demographic starts dying.

It sounds nuts, but some signs have suggested at least a few folks at Fox may be hitting the “out of fucks to give” stage with Trump.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:47:43pm

The truly depressing thought? Many of these Repubs out there, feeding their base’s need to believe that they are somehow uniquely plugged into the “truth” of this outbreak, will be reelected or even elevated to higher office in the next 2-4 years.

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:47:47pm

re: #163 Targetpractice

“All the information” is (of course) Repub code for “My base will eat me alive if I don’t satiate their need to anger the libs.”

…or “I heard about something published In a National Review projectile vomit of an article that says a guy in a village somewhere contradicts our top national health advisor.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:47:52pm

re: #165 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also, life goals for when we’re allowed to travel again. (Not that this is a new thing, I just normally sub in a craft distillery for the brewery.)

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:48:05pm

re: #81 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:48:30pm

re: #161 Patricia Kayden

“Maybe the infectious disease specialist doesn’t have all the right information during a PANDEMIC.”

The stupid, it burns…..

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:50:58pm
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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:52:45pm

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:53:06pm

re: #171 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Related story, when I was in Detroit last fall visiting my baby sister, we did the Detroit International Half Marathon together. (So I have run across both the bridge and the tunnel but never driven across either.) Anyway, the day before we went by a distillery in Detroit whose name I currently forget and it turns out they had 8 gins on the menu. Of course, I wanted to try them all.

Conveniently, they offered a taster set! Two of them! Described on the menu as 4 one ounce pours, priced at $12 each. Being from CA, where there are limits on what a distillery can serve you, I thought there was no way that meant 4 one ounce pours, especially at that price. I ordered both, because I can drink 2 ounces and be fine.

Hahahaha no. They presented me with at least 8 ounces of gin. mr. klys and my sister both helped. We left several of the gins unfinished.

…I did buy a bottle of my favorite, though. I should go open that soon.

Anyway, ran the half the next day which went fine and then the Marine Corps Marathon a week after that which did not go fine but that was not the gin’s fault.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:54:25pm

re: #174 Patricia Kayden

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Trump has basically upended every idea we had of a functioning federal government. The damage done will take years to repair, if it can be repaired as states both local and foreign have already begun planning their futures around the inability to trust the federal government will do its job. This outbreak alone will likely lead to a lot of rewriting of state and local emergency plans around the assumption that the federal government cannot be relied upon to provide help in a crisis.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:56:00pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:59:09pm

re: #178 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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In less than 10 years, we went from wingnuts cheering the suggestion that the uninsured be left to die to the Repub WH suggesting that the gov’t pay hospitals directly for medical costs incurred during a crisis.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:59:14pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

Trump has basically upended every idea we had of a functioning federal government. The damage done will take years to repair, if it can be repaired as states both local and foreign have already begun planning their futures around the inability to trust the federal government will do its job. …

This is a feature, not a bug, of the “state’s rights” and theocracy crowd.

They want the federal government to fail.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 1:59:52pm

re: #178 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Unfuckingbelievable.

They actually fell bass ackwards into some form of single payer.

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:00:46pm

Please copy and retweet

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:00:54pm

re: #180 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This is a feature, not a bug, of the “state’s rights” and theocracy crowd.

They want the federal government to fail.

Yes and no. Even at their most cynical, most Repubs and wingnuts alike agreed that the federal gov’t had a role to play in a national crisis. Even if all that role was was coordinating relief efforts, it was necessary to ensure that the states didn’t end up turning on each other.

Then we get to the Trump admin, which is actually saying aloud that if states end up in a knife fight, the only job of the federal government is to sit and watch.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:01:31pm

re: #176 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Related story, when I was in Detroit last fall visiting my baby sister, we did the Detroit International Half Marathon together. (So I have run across both the bridge and the tunnel but never driven across either.) Anyway, the day before we went by a distillery in Detroit whose name I currently forget and it turns out they had 8 gins on the menu. Of course, I wanted to try them all.

Conveniently, they offered a taster set! Two of them! Described on the menu as 4 one ounce pours, priced at $12 each. Being from CA, where there are limits on what a distillery can serve you, I thought there was no way that meant 4 one ounce pours, especially at that price. I ordered both, because I can drink 2 ounces and be fine.

Hahahaha no. They presented me with at least 8 ounces of gin. mr. klys and my sister both helped. We left several of the gins unfinished.

…I did buy a bottle of my favorite, though. I should go open that soon.

Anyway, ran the half the next day which went fine and then the Marine Corps Marathon a week after that which did not go fine but that was not the gin’s fault.

I missed breaking 3 hours in the MCM in 1992 because I just hit the wall hard after crossing the river and hitting that last stretch back to the monument. (Actually, I may have broken it, but in those pre-chip days it took me at least a minute just to get to the starting line.) It’s a fast course on a good day, but those last two or three miles were the hardest I’ve experienced at the end of a marathon.

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:02:04pm

re: #178 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:02:51pm
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DodgerFan1988  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:03:23pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:03:38pm

re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg

Unfuckingbelievable.

They actually fell bass ackwards into some form of single payer.

Don’t worry, they’ll fuck it up.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:06:32pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:08:30pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

Trump has basically upended every idea we had of a functioning federal government. The damage done will take years to repair, if it can be repaired as states both local and foreign have already begun planning their futures around the inability to trust the federal government will do its job. This outbreak alone will likely lead to a lot of rewriting of state and local emergency plans around the assumption that the federal government cannot be relied upon to provide help in a crisis.

the other side of this will be (for those still alive)
“see, you survived without the federal government’s help after all”

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:09:04pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:10:11pm

re: #178 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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never does anything this admin does turn out to be what the first day, condensed tweet version says is ‘going to happen’

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:13:45pm

re: #185 gocart mozart

A month ago Sanders and Warren looked like loons for proposing 1-2T$ for M4A. This afternoon they look like pikers.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:14:16pm

re: #9 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

OK, here’s the next line of responses coming at us.

Turns out the Coronavirus isn’t a problem after all!

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CDC says that between October 1, 2019, through March 28, 2020 there were ~24,000 - 63,000 flu deaths. So bullshit on that data point.

K, possible world wide, my bad.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:15:16pm

re: #180 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This is a feature, not a bug, of the “state’s rights” and theocracy crowd.

They want the federal government to fail.

I regret that I have but one upding to give for this. It is the crux of the problem. The hinterland gentry hates and fears the federal government, they have since Sherman’s March. They don’t hate it because it is tyrannical, they hate it because it prevents the tyranny they think it is their birthright to exercise. They don’t hate it because it is incompetent, they hate it because it is competent, to enforce wage and labor laws, to protect the environment they want to pillage, to ensure free speech from local dissidents they could otherwise get the yokel sheriff to shut down or “disappear.”
The provincial aristocracy was the main target of the French Revolution for a reason.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:16:23pm

re: #193 Decatur Deb

A month ago Sanders and Warren looked like loons for proposing 1-2T$ for M4A. This afternoon they look like pikers.

Yeah, it’s amazing how much money is in the till when an election year comes around.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:18:02pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

Yeah, it’s amazing how much money is in the till when an election year comes around.

National-level version of oiling the blacktop.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:19:19pm

re: #197 Decatur Deb

National-level version of oiling the blacktop.

Exactly. And if Biden wins, in 12 months we’ll see a reblossoming of “ZOMG! ALL THIS DEBT! WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE GRANDKIDS?!”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:19:23pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:19:59pm
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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:22:46pm

Wait, does this mean that they are California now?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:23:31pm

re: #201 makeitstop

Wait, does this mean that they are California now?

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Save your cruel humor.

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lizardofid  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:24:38pm

re: #201 makeitstop

Wait, does this mean that they are California now?

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Bakersfield.

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ETA: Sorry Deb

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:24:41pm

re: #199 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

“we need beat to Covid 19 without hurting America”

And you know how we do that? By STAYING THE FUCK HOME and flattening the curve!

If we can do that, America will eventually recover, she’s resilient that way.

JFC, these people.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:26:13pm

re: #203 lizardofid

Bakersfield.

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I’m assuming that’s not like Big Sur.

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:26:15pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

A month ago Sanders and Warren looked like loons for proposing 1-2T$ for M4A. This afternoon they look like pikers.

Yeah, it’s amazing how much money is in the till when an election year comes around.

GOP has NEVER cared at all about deficits. If they say otherwise, they are lying. Also, bailing out hospitals is no more progressive than bailing out banks.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:26:32pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

“we need beat to Covid 19 without hurting America”

And you know how we do that? By STAYING THE FUCK HOME and flattening the curve!

If we can do that, America will eventually recover, she’s resilient that way.

JFC, these people.

They mean capitalism and the rich.

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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:27:04pm

”..Why are we putting up with this? Why are Democrats not shrieking with outrage, “What the fuck does a shitty real estate developer know about epidemiology?” The reaction to Jared Kushner being trotted out to throw in some corporate bullshit-speak should have been for Benjamin Franklin’s skeletal corpse to show up and beat him with a femur right when he said, “The President also wanted us to make sure we think outside the box.” Motherfucker, we’re dying here. The box is a goddamn coffin.

Kushner blathered on with cliches about “innovative solutions” and, really, “leave no stone unturned,” and he turned to the real villains in the alibi the Trump administration is coming up with for its criminally-cruel abandonment of its basic duties to protect Americans: It’s those motherfucking governors’ fault. They’re out of their league. They don’t understand their jobs. He said that some governors “don’t know what’s in their state” when it comes to medical supplies and ventilators, an accusation that he offered no support for.

Then he tossed in, “What a lot of the voters are seeing now is that when you elect somebody to be a mayor or a governor or a president, you’re trying to think about who will be a competent manager during the time of crisis. This is a time of crisis, and you’re seeing certain people are better managers than others.” This brainless dipshit has no idea how much he was talking about his hulking, moronic father-in-law who still thinks people give a single rat fuck about his popularity.

Then he accused governors of “asking for things that they don’t necessarily need at the moment,” which, no shit, bitch. That’s called “planning ahead,” something the Trump administration didn’t fucking do at all. And Kushner said about the Strategic National Stockpile of medical supplies: “the notion of the federal stockpile was it’s supposed to be our stockpile; it’s not supposed to be state stockpiles that they then use.” Or “Fuck you. Buy your own shit, blue states.”

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danarchy  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:27:16pm

re: #194 Eventual Carrion

CDC says that between October 1, 2019, through March 28, 2020 there were ~24,000 - 63,000 flu deaths. So bullshit on that data point.

I think those CDC numbers are US not worldwide.

who.int

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plansbandc  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:27:56pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

I don’t think it’s going to get repaired with the whole country on board. I think we split and one side makes the necessary changes to health care, creates a living wage, and basic income, fair tax etc. The other goes full fascist. And it won’t be a peaceful existence.

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stpaulbear  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:28:02pm

re: #207 Belafon

They mean capitalism and the rich.

And access to spas and salons.

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:29:00pm

FYI: It’s a Reagan quote from 1980

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:29:04pm

re: #200 Patricia Kayden

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keep in mind
- everyone assumed, yes assumed, what the mayor did
- that the federal government was doing its job of planning and prep it always had
- so she points out the trump admin hasnt - for three 3 years
- and for the most part without warnings or notification
- meanwhile the states and cities have had 2 months or so to ramp up and cover themselves where the fed dropped the ball, and they’re doing it in the middle of the raging pandemic
- forced to because no one said a year or 3 ago, “we’re not doing this anymore you’re gonna be on your own”

because really there’s no change in federal policy
there’s incompetence (oh, it’s our job to protect emergency supply lines?)
and ignorance (we dont need this panel, when was the last pandemic)

it’s not mere malpractice. it’s malfeasance

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Jay C  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:29:38pm

re: #205 Decatur Deb

I’m assuming that’s not like Big Sur.

Oklahoma with different license plates.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:29:44pm

re: #208 jaunte

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To whom would we shriek our outrage? Let’s just quietly prepare to fuck them in November.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:29:47pm

re: #208 jaunte

I read that whole thing in Samuel L Jacksons voice. Works well.

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stpaulbear  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:31:44pm

Yay / It’s 29 degrees in St Paul and dropping down to 21 tonight. Something is coming down from the sky but I can’t tell what it is from indoors. Not too many people walking past my house today.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:32:50pm

re: #201 makeitstop

when i see one of these announcements now i go to projections
to see how far behind the curve they are

if the projections hold, alabama is in deep trouble

all these R states are playing out the same thing trump did a month ago
seeing a ‘flat line’ and concluding it’s no big deal ‘for us’

remember “it’s just 15 cases”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:36:20pm

re: #207 Belafon

They mean capitalism and the rich.

“we need beat to Covid 19 without hurting America”
really? why? why is that a laudable goal?

cant “america” take a punch?
i mean that literally
without ‘hurting’? at all?

wtf is wrong with these ghouls?

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:36:37pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

Yeah, it’s amazing how much money is in the till when an election year comes around.

I guarantee a Trump-led short term health care Coronavirus government intervention will cost at least $3 Trillion and only be temporary. A Democrat-led $1 Trillion centralized department effort run by a competent administration could have constructed a ground-up nationwide infrastructure to provide at least basic preventative and non-surgical care for everyone henceforth. …$2 Trillion if non-elective surgery were included. All that gone now.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:36:39pm

re: #218 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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when i see one of these announcements now i go to projections
to see how far behind the curve they are

if the projections hold, alabama is in deep trouble

all these R states are playing out the same thing trump did a month ago
seeing a ‘flat line’ and concluding it’s no big deal ‘for us’

remember “it’s just 15 cases”

Wife and I intend to stay out of the hospital for the next 4 weeks. For the rest of the year, we intend to fuck the Republicans.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:37:19pm

Gov. Beshear reported that KY. Has 90 new cases and 6 deaths today. Projection shows with strict compliance with stay at home order, we could limit deaths to 2k compared with 13k with poor compliance. 3 months would put us into mid-June.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:40:30pm

re: #220 Florida Panhandler

I guarantee a Trump-led short term health care Coronavirus government intervention will cost at least $3 Trillion and only be temporary. A Democrat-led $1 Trillion centralized department effort run by a competent administration could have constructed a ground-up nationwide infrastructure to provide at least basic preventative and non-surgical care for everyone henceforth. …$2 Trillion if non-elective surgery were included. All that gone now.

And preparing Republicans to say that M4A can’t ever be a thing because LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE TRIED!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:44:11pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Wife and I intend to stay out of the hospital for the next 4 weeks. For the rest of the year, we intend to fuck the Republicans.

us too.

now with canvassing stopped, as well as face to face registration in parking lots and other events, and since many of us are sort of shuttered up, consider postcardstovoters.org

they, and amazon, deliver

all you gotta do is write em and mail em

we try to do 10 or 20 cards just once a week. half an hour.

think of it like distributed programming. we have all this potential computing energy sitting around waiting for something to do

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:50:46pm

re: #184 Barefoot Grin

I missed breaking 3 hours in the MCM in 1992 because I just hit the wall hard after crossing the river and hitting that last stretch back to the monument. (Actually, I may have broken it, but in those pre-chip days it took me at least a minute just to get to the starting line.) It’s a fast course on a good day, but those last two or three miles were the hardest I’ve experienced at the end of a marathon.

Spoilered to spare those who don’t care about running talk.

It was, bluntly, a fucking awful day this past year. Remnants of a tropical storm moving through to start the morning and then the sun came out toward the end. Over an inch of rain fell during the race (for me, concentrated between mile 5 and mile 13 - the blue mile was kind of waterlogged and there was a point where you could choose between running through the 3”+ deep puddle or the mud to the side) and it was mid 70s by the time I finished if not hotter. Humid as fuck.

Also I was getting sick, haha.

I trained hard for the race and probably went out too hard considering the conditions. Between all of it I hit the wall between miles 12 and 13. Way too fucking early. Walked a non-trivial portion of the race and it is currently (and hopefully will remain) my personal worst. After making it through the finisher’s chute while trying to find mr. klys and my parents, I was dry-heaving for a solid 30 seconds while trying not to look like I was in distress because we had no time to spare to catch our plane back to SFO.

But I did finish the fucker.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:50:59pm

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Wife and I intend to stay out of the hospital for the next 4 weeks. For the rest of the year, we intend to fuck the Republicans.

Oh no.

Inspired by FRANK ZAPPA, I would rather go to the Pleasure Chest in West Hollywood, buy a “Tower Of Power” and use it on all of them…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:51:42pm
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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:53:28pm

BE BEST

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:54:03pm

Have I mentioned how glad I am Beshear and not Bevin is our governor? That election last November probably saved thousands of Kentuckians lives.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:56:29pm

re: #224 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

We do the postcards and phonebanking, trying to learn texting to VAN friendlies. Wife is voter registration coordinator for our new League of Women Voters org. I do that for the reviving county Dems. We’re learning to use media to direct our unregistered to the AL online VR site.

The big push now is to force generous mail-in voting rules in case the crud is back in the Fall. GOTV is going to be a cluster.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:56:46pm
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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:57:13pm

re: #228 Teddy’s Person

Give Trump a Klan hood. He’ll wear that.

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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:57:57pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:59:06pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:59:18pm

re: #233 jaunte

Stable genius, y’all.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 2:59:42pm

re: #233 jaunte

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Info that could have been dispensed in a 30 minute (if not shorter) briefing gets turned into a 2 hr journey into the center of a syphilis-riddled mind.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:00:34pm

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

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I’m sure the banks will be thrilled about this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:01:00pm

re: #228 Teddy’s Person

BE BEST

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Trump is too vain/stupid to wear a mask.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:01:21pm

re: #238 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump is too vain/stupid to wear a mask.

Be fair, it would smear the spray tan.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:02:29pm

re: #237 Targetpractice

I’m sure the banks will be thrilled about this.

I was just thinking that exact thing. It’s like the scene in V for Vendetta where they send the Guy Fawkes masks out to everyone and one dude uses his to knock off a Convenience store.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:02:30pm

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:03:42pm

re: #199 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Idiots but thankfully they are going to fail. Sensible governors aren’t putting the economy above their citizens’ health. We will go back to normal when this virus is contained.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:03:50pm

re: #229 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Have I mentioned how glad I am Beshear and not Bevin is our governor? That election last November probably saved thousands of Kentuckians lives.

have i mentioned how sad i am trump and not clinton is our president? that election 3 years ago probably killed thousands of americans

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:04:19pm

re: #244 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

have i mentioned how sad i am trump and not clinton is our president? that election 3 years ago probably killed thousands of americans

Edited for accuracy.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:04:25pm

ACCHHH! I own 3 Henry rifles. No more though.

There is a whole line of special “Trump edition” Henry rifles now.

For well-heeled fascists, they have this lying, fully engraved “Unimpeachable!” version, which is limited to 20 units per state. Appropriately enough, the regular model is the “Big Boy.”

Hidden for revolting imagery:

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:04:28pm

Off to the back porch to drink cheap wine and stare at our Victory Garden.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:04:59pm
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So Cal Greek Hippie  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:05:15pm

Delayed response :My opening paragraph in the dystopian novel writing challenge from last comment thread

“The cheap plating wore off the pin holding the badge of stupidity America proudly wore the last 40 years, and started to infect the body politic. Just little oozing in the localized area at first, then the whole thing turned septic in a heartbeat”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:05:35pm

re: #233 jaunte

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Wtf

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:06:49pm

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

Edited for accuracy.

i was gonna do that….

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:07:59pm

WTAF

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:08:54pm
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A Cranky One  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:09:22pm

This provides such temptation..

Ideas!
boingboing.net

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:09:33pm

re: #247 Decatur Deb

Off to the back porch to drink cheap wine and stare at our Victory Garden.

gonna finish cooking the cuban black beans
then mix em with avocado, mozzarella pearls and sauteed zucchini

praline baked apples for afters.

take that jeffrey!

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A Cranky One  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:11:40pm

re: #255 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

gonna finish cooking the cuban black beans
then mix em with avocado, mozzarella pearls and sauteed zucchini

praline baked apples for afters.

take that jeffrey!

Jeffrey is going to give you the bird.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:12:35pm

re: #255 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

gonna finish cooking the cuban black beans
then mix em with avocado, mozzarella pearls and sauteed zucchini

praline baked apples for afters.

take that jeffrey!

I’ve got a slow cooker marinara sauce going. Have some mushroom ravioli to pair it with, and a salad.

Thinking about a gin and tonic to go with it.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:13:37pm

re: #253 The Pie Overlord!

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three goddamn years
the admin actively dropped the ball
if nothing ever happened it woulda been ‘see we dont need that department’
but it did so it’s “i dont take responsibility at all for any fucking thing”
- not for what i’ve done
- not for what i should have done

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William Lewis  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:13:39pm

re: #246 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

ACCHHH! I own 3 Henry rifles. No more though.

There is a whole line of special “Trump edition” Henry rifles now.

For well-heeled fascists, they have this lying, fully engraved “Unimpeachable!” version, which is limited to 20 units per state. Appropriately enough, the regular model is the “Big Boy.”

Hidden for revolting imagery:

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KingKenrod  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:14:06pm

I found my new favorite twitter follow.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:14:13pm

re: #238 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump is too vain/stupid to wear a mask.

He could wear an orange one. It would blend right in.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:15:24pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:15:41pm

If I owned a gun company, I would produce a John Brown Memorial edition Harper’s Ferry muzzle-loader, a John Kerry/Brown Water Navy Commemorative edition AR-15, and a special Hillary Clinton edition .22LR pistol with suppressor (a favorite of Deep-State and Mossad assassins).

Hmmm. Probably why I don’t own a gun company.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:15:52pm

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:16:22pm

re: #256 A Cranky One

Jeffrey is going to give you the bird.

in the morning, yeah

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:16:56pm

re: #261 Teddy’s Person

He could wear an orange one. It would blend right in.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:17:40pm

re: #261 Teddy’s Person

He could wear an orange one. It would blend right in.

how do you know he’s not? //

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:17:40pm

re: #246 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

ACCHHH! I own 3 Henry rifles. No more though.

There is a whole line of special “Trump edition” Henry rifles now.

For well-heeled fascists, they have this lying, fully engraved “Unimpeachable!” version, which is limited to 20 units per state. Appropriately enough, the regular model is the “Big Boy.”

Hidden for revolting imagery:

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Ugh. I never got into the Henrys because my first gun was a Marlin 39A. Got into a phase collecting them a while back and have five variants now, which I am aware is ridiculous. Unfortunately Marlin is a zombie brand now and the quality of new production is just complete dogshit compared to those old guns.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:17:47pm

Remember that “change of tone”? Yeah, it’s gone.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:18:03pm

re: #264 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Shorter Trump: “People in blue states aren’t ‘real’ Americans.”

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:18:15pm

re: #203 lizardofid

Bakersfield.

//

ETA: Sorry Deb

“I was drivin’ home early one Sunday mornin’….”

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:19:08pm

There were no “tests” for COVID19 3 years ago because it didn’t even exist then.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:20:04pm

It’s not just US christian fundies defying orders not to congregate. washingtonpost.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:20:41pm

Of course, he insulted a woman of color.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:21:20pm

Made two DIY (no sew) masks from cloth napkins and hair ties.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:23:12pm

Evening Lizardim from the freezing cold and snowy wild north country. Todays stats: 4 deaths, up to 22; 47 new cases, up to 789; over 24,000 tested. This is the third day in a row we have tested more people and had fewer positives, and 12 days in a row of flat or negative growth in the case count, indicating that Minnesota is, indeed, succeeding in holding off the charge. How go things among the lizardfolk on this windy pre-spring evening?

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:24:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:25:20pm

re: #215 Decatur Deb

To whom would we shriek our outrage? Let’s just quietly prepare to fuck them in November.

I can multi-task.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:25:44pm

Watched “The Spy Who Loved Me” for the first time since I was a kid last night. That ski jump off the cliff at the beginning is just so fucking badass. Back then (1977) it was the most expensive stunt ever done in a film. Good movie and song too.

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William Lewis  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:25:52pm

Was out and about earlier today and after buying my groceries, I went for a short drive to check out some the usual suspects and ended up stopping by a canoe landing I’d not explored before and got a few nice images. I made a page Along the Namakagon River

Thanks for looking.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:27:23pm

re: #280 William Lewis

Was out and about earlier today and after buying my groceries, I went for a short drive to check out some the usual suspects and ended up stopping by a canoe landing I’d not explored before and got a few nice images. I made a page Along the Namakagon River

Thanks for looking.

Mrs. Fish and I went on a drive-thru dinner date; we grabbed Wendy’s and parked in the parking lot of a lakeside park nearby. It was a section of the park I hadn’t been in before, and if it had been a better day I might have done the same.

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John Hughes  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:27:25pm

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

Fact: The Wuhan has CDC DOES have offices near the Market where many of the first cluster of cases came from.

The only theory I give any credence to right now is that the virus may have been under study and accidentally released due to a containment/security failure and even then there’s been no definitive information to suggest that’s what happened. Hell knowing the Chinese there may NEVER be.

Fuck of and die you conspiracy theorising moron.

That is not a theory, it is irresponsible unfounded speculation.

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sagehen  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:28:28pm

re: #258 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

three goddamn years
the admin actively dropped the ball
if nothing ever happened it woulda been ‘see we dont need that department’
but it did so it’s “i dont take responsibility at all for any fucking thing”
- not for what i’ve done
- not for what i should have done

Asked why, if pandemic prep was a priority, we have too little masks and other equipment, Trump says, “Previous administrations.”

Reminder that when Obama was 90 days into his first term, the right was whining about high unemployment, and “what kind of bullshit excuse-making to blame the previous admin, he’s the president, it’s his fault.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:29:41pm

re: #282 John Hughes

Seriously, we can disagree here without the ridiculous overreaction. Try it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:29:50pm

re: #222 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Gov. Beshear reported that KY. Has 90 new cases and 6 deaths today. Projection shows with strict compliance with stay at home order, we could limit deaths to 2k compared with 13k with poor compliance. 3 months would put us into mid-June.

MrBWS did our weekly grocery/supply run into town.
Local grocery store had a notice on the door that “by executive order”, only one adult per household allowed in the store at the same time. Plexi shields up a the checkout lane.

Turns out our county judge executive issued the order for all retail establishments.

didn’t see the same thing at the Dollar General.

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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:30:12pm

re: #277 The Pie Overlord!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:30:16pm

re: #282 John Hughes

I’m going to go out on a limb and say you didn’t actually read and comprehend the post to which you replied in haste.

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retired cynic  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:30:18pm

Illinois c19 status:
Friday 4/3 48,048 tested (4392 new), 8904 positive (1209 new), 210 deaths (53 new)

Most of this is Chicago. It is rapidly spreading up there. Gov. Pritzker has got four new temporary hospitals set up around that area to hold less ill c19 cases. I think he is doing a lot, has done a lot, but Chicago is in trouble.

Where I am, my county and the one to the south, we have no known cases. But one over has 5, and 1 death, but that has been steady for some days now. Knock wood.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:30:21pm

re: #274 The Pie Overlord!

Of course, he insulted a woman of color.

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Like I said the other day, blue state governors should start floating the idea aloud of withholding tax revenue from the federal government until it gets its head out of its ass about who this stockpile belongs to.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:31:06pm

re: #289 Targetpractice

Like I said the other day, blue state governors should start floating the idea aloud of withholding tax revenue from the federal government until it gets its head out of its ass about who this stockpile belongs to.

We’ve already gotten slapped at a bit because 3M decided to tell Trump to go fuck himself. I think Governor Walz is probably on the shit list now.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:31:13pm

Daily check-in here has 75 new cases, 2 new deaths. Hospitalized numbers ticking up slowly but there’s still capacity available.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:31:23pm

re: #286 jaunte

Yes, it’s called “Trump.”

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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:31:28pm
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:32:45pm

I’m curious if there’s a possibility the IRS just suspends all taxes for the first half of this year.

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John Hughes  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:33:01pm

re: #284 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Seriously, we can disagree here without the ridiculous overreaction. Try it.

Ridiculous overreaction? Unsupported speculation that the disease was realeased by the “WUHAN CDC” is somehow respectable? What the fuck is LGF, reddit?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:33:04pm

re: #293 jaunte

He says things like this, and then he wonders why 3M politely told him to cram it up his ass when he tried to play the Defense Production Act yesterday.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:34:13pm

re: #293 jaunte

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Perhaps the next logical question is which federal hospitals need those ventilators? Because last I checked, the only hospitals that the Feds are responsible fall under the purview of the DOD and the VA. And if they don’t have enough medical equipment stockpiled to address their own needs, then somebody’s ass needs to be fired.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:34:30pm

re: #295 John Hughes

Ridiculous overreaction? Unsupported speculation that the disease was realeased by the “WUHAN CDC” is somehow respectable? What the fuck is LGF, reddit?

If you think telling someone to fuck off and die is an appropriate reaction to any comment here, you might be a better fit for reddit.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:34:37pm

re: #283 sagehen

Limbaugh blamed the increasing employment rate in late 2008 on Obama because “businesses knew what was coming.”

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:34:40pm

re: #33 NO SMOCKING GUN!

“No, 5G isn’t causing coronavirus 🤔” twitter.com

Of course not silly, it’s windmills. Fucking windmills. Disease carrying, cancer causing windmills.

(And melon calf Mexicans also)

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:34:51pm
Seems the further from town I go
The more I hate this place
He’s got leather and big tattoos
Scars all over his face
And I wonder if he ever has cried
‘Cause he couldn’t get a date for the prom

He’s got his arm around every man’s dream
Crumbs in his beard from the seafood special
Oh can’t you see my world is falling apart
Baby please leave the biker
Leave the biker
Break his heart
Baby please leave the biker
Leave the biker
Break his heart

Now his friend leans over and says
Looks like we’ve got us a fag
Wonder if that guy’s read one word
That wasn’t in a porno mag
And I wonder if he ever has cried
‘Cause his kitten got run over and died

Fountains of Wayne - Leave The Biker (with Lyrics)

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:35:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:35:51pm

re: #261 Teddy’s Person

He could wear an orange one. It would blend right in.

except for his corpse-like bloated eyes

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:35:54pm

re: #296 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He says things like this, and then he wonders why 3M politely told him to cram it up his ass when he tried to play the Defense Production Act yesterday.

You gotta love how Donny spent days trying to rationalize why he wasn’t invoking the DPA, only to now start slinging it left and right in a wild effort to save his own ass.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:36:27pm

re: #253 The Pie Overlord!

Why don’t reporters tell him that he’s not responsible for previous administrations? He’s responsible for his administration. His administration is a disaster when it comes to handling this crisis. They keep letting him get away with this shift-the-blame nonsense.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:36:33pm

Starting tomorrow, Walmart will be limiting customers to 5 per every 1000 soft.

google.com

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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:37:04pm

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

except for his corpse-like bloated eyes

That’s the best (and accurate) description of his ocular region.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:37:08pm

re: #260 KingKenrod

I found my new favorite twitter follow.

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OMG. I’m ded. I’m laughing so hard my hubs thinks I’ve lost it. I’m not sure which is better.

Or

But I’m still looking.🤣🤣

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:37:17pm

re: #302 The Pie Overlord!

One of Trump’s greatest hits was that his gut told him the lethality rate would be much lower than 2%, more likely .5 %.

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BeachDem  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:37:42pm

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, when he’s greeting “prime ministers, dictators, kings and queens” he wouldn’t want to look stupid, right?

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:37:53pm

University of Kentucky is building a 400 bed field hospital at their football stadium.

google.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:38:40pm

re: #269 The Pie Overlord!

Remember that “change of tone”? Yeah, it’s gone.

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Wish I was one of the reporters in the room because my question would be “Are you OK? Because you sound seriously not OK.You don’t look healthy either.”

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:39:40pm

re: #8 lawhawk

So what though? The issue isn’t where the Coronavirus came from. The issue is how our government responds to this crisis. That’s the only thing that matters.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:39:43pm

Trump’s butcher bill for the day: 1,010. worldometer

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John Hughes  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:41:51pm

re: #287 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Explain what I didn’t understand about:

Fact: The Wuhan CDC DOES have offices near the Market where many of the first cluster of cases came from.

The only theory I give any credence to right now is that the virus may have been under study and accidentally released due to a containment/security failure and even then there’s been no definitive information to suggest that’s what happened. Hell knowing the Chinese there may NEVER be.

The soi-disant “Ecclectic Cyborg” “gives credence” to a totally unsupported “theory” and I’m “not understanding”.

If I said the virus came from Fort Detrick you’d, rightly, be all over me, but EC gets to post this unsupported speculation we’re all supposed to just shut up?

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:42:00pm
Seth Shapiro got his law degree
He moved to Brooklyn from Schenectady, ‘93
Got some clients in the food industry
He says it’s not the money, it’s the recipes
He calls his mom, says he’s doing fine
She’s got somebody on the other line
Puts Coldplay on, pours a glass of wine
Curls up with a book about organized crime
When it’s late, and it’s hot
And a date with the Late Show’s all that you’ve got
Don’t give out, don’t give up
One of these nights you might find someone to love

Beth McKenzie got the job of her dreams
Retouching photos for a magazine aimed at teens
It’s Thursday night, she should be out on the scene
But she’s sitting at home watching “The King of Queens”
There’s something wrong that she can’t describe
She takes the contacts out of her eyes
Sets the alarm for 6: 45
So she can get a little exercise
When it’s late, and it’s hot
And an hour in the shower is the best that you’ve got
Don’t give out, don’t give up
One of these nights you might find someone to love
And you’re not the only one who’s lonely

Seth Shapiro is trying in vain
To hail a taxi in the morning in the pouring rain
Beth McKenzie sees one just up ahead
She cuts in front of him and leaves him for dead

Fountains of Wayne - Someone To Love

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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:42:41pm

Captain Crozier as he leaves USS Roosevelt to standing ovation.

USS Roosevelt crew salutes Captain Crozier as he leaves ship | Standing ovation to Captain Crozier

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:43:52pm

re: #263 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

If I owned a gun company, I would produce a John Brown Memorial edition Harper’s Ferry muzzle-loader, a John Kerry/Brown Water Navy Commemorative edition AR-15, and a special Hillary Clinton edition .22LR pistol with suppressor (a favorite of Deep-State and Mossad assassins).

Hmmm. Probably why I don’t own a gun company.

Sharps rifle all day long.
en.m.wikipedia.org

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Charles Johnson  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:45:33pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:46:58pm

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

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Now watch some asshole in Florida do the “Stand Your Ground” shit and kill a person with a bandana over their nose and mouth…

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:47:18pm

re: #319 Charles Johnson

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I can’t bring the thought together, but the elements are:

Sphincter mouth
Aerosolized feces

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austin_blue  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:48:18pm

re: #311 Belafon

University of Kentucky is building a 400 bed field hospital at their football stadium.

google.com

Which is great, except that it’s spring and tornado and thunderstrom season and it has no roof…

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:48:28pm

re: #321 Barefoot Grin

Fish Face?

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:48:32pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:48:45pm

re: #279 Ace Rothstein

Watched “The Spy Who Loved Me” for the first time since I was a kid last night. That ski jump off the cliff at the beginning is just so fucking badass. Back then (1977) it was the most expensive stunt ever done in a film. Good movie and song too.

The very first ski-BASE jump!

That one scene inspired my favorite skier Shane McConkey to make ski-BASE jumping a “regular” thing (I use “regular” in quotes, as it’s still a very elite endeavor, but in the skiing world it’s been done thousands of times by many athletes in recent years).

Shane McConkey “Seven Sunny Days” James Bond Segment

Unfortunately, that’s ultimately what killed Shane on 26 March 2009.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:50:08pm

re: #315 John Hughes

If you don’t understand the difference between “hey, this is an unsourced conspiracy theory and we can do better than spreading rumors without supporting facts, especially since the data shows that this is natural in origin and similar viruses have been found in animals sold in the wet markets - here’s a link to a paper published in Nature about it” and “fuck off and die” as criticism of a comment and how the first is acceptable here while the second is going to get pushback, I don’t really know what to say to you.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:50:24pm

re: #324 The Pie Overlord!

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If only there was a state that’s being doing voting by mail for a long time where they could collect data. You’ll pry my voting by mail from my cold dead hands.

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unproven innocence  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:50:52pm

re: #275 Teddy’s Person

Made two DIY (no sew) masks from cloth napkins and hair ties.

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Made mine from a tube-style cotton sock and two medium-large spring-steel paper clips, where each clip has 2 stainless-steel “handle” parts that one would normally squeeze to “open” the clip. These handles are shaped such they can interlock (with mild tension), but they can disengage easily with a slight twist. So it’s basically a 3-part off-the-shelf DIY mask covering nose and mouth. No sewing required. No elastic (except the tube sock itself.) Ears are not involved. (It may cover lower part of ears.)

Such clips can be found in office products section of some stores, such as Wa*-Mart, or some on-line stores. Mine were the largest of an assortment of sizes in one package.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:50:57pm

re: #323 PhillyPretzel

Fish Face?

Fuck face showing his asshole.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:51:15pm

re: #324 The Pie Overlord!

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You know, he’s right, mail-in ballots lead to cheating. Just ask the folks in NC-9…

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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:52:28pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:53:26pm

re: #328 unproven innocence

Made mine from a tube-style cotton sock and two medium-large spring-steel paper clips, where each clip has 2 stainless-steel “handle” parts that one would normally squeeze to “open” the clip. These handles are shaped such they can interlock (with mild tension), but they can disengage easily with a slight twist. So it’s basically a 3-part off-the-shelf DIY mask covering nose and mouth. No sewing required. No elastic (except the tube sock itself.) Ears are not involved. (It may cover lower part of ears.)

Such clips can be found in office products section of some stores, such as Wa**-Mart, or some on-line stores. Mine were the largest of an assortment of sizes in one package.

Picturing my husband’s tube socks.

Throwing up in my mind.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:54:09pm

re: #269 The Pie Overlord!

Remember that “change of tone”? Yeah, it’s gone.

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Just once would even one spineless wimp in the DC Press Corpse call Trump a liar to his face?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:54:19pm

re: #331 jaunte

DT and company are the reasons why a R will not be elected.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:54:37pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:56:47pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wish I was one of the reporters in the room because myu question would be “Are you OK? Because you sound seriously not OK.You don’t look healthy either.”

I keep wondering what it would take to insult the press enough so that they’d walk out. Why hasn’t anyone gotten to that point?

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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:57:03pm

Sorry if this has already been posted, but it’s horrifying an should be the end of every Democratic ad for November.

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austin_blue  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:57:23pm

re: #314 Teddy’s Person

Trump’s butcher bill for the day: 1,010. worldometer

COVID Tracking Project has him at 1,178.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:58:52pm

re: #338 austin_blue

COVID Tracking Project has him 1,178.

I should have said so far today.

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:59:15pm
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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:59:18pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 3:59:50pm

re: #340 gocart mozart

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:01:38pm

re: #337 Teddy’s Person

Dirac delta function.

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John Hughes  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:02:15pm

re: #315 John Hughes

https://www.sciencesetavenir.fr/sante/le-nouveau-coronavirus-echappe-d-un-laboratoire-la-folle-rumeur-sur-le-web_141612

EC repeats bullshit from Le rassemblement nationale, Zero Hedge, and other fascist sources, LGF piles in on me.

Cool. Maybe LGF hasn’t changed so much after all.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:02:48pm

re: #344 John Hughes

Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:03:19pm

Of course he makes a snide “joke” about “models.”

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:04:29pm
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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:05:50pm
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austin_blue  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:05:54pm

re: #336 stpaulbear

I keep wondering what it would take to insult the press enough so that they’d walk out. Why hasn’t anyone gotten to that point?

Access.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:06:43pm

Moscow Mitch continues to pack the courts with unqualified reactionaries.

President Trump is tapping a young district judge and former clerk to now-Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh to fill a vacancy on the powerful U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.

The nomination of Justin Walker, 37, is almost certain to trigger a vigorous battle over his qualifications to serve on the nation’s second-most influential court, which is often at the apex of key cases involving executive power and federal regulations. The American Bar Association had deemed Walker not qualified for his current post as judge for the Western District of Kentucky, where he has served for just over five months. Source WaPo

This is the guy Mitch and I-like-Beer Kavanaugh partied with in Kentucky instead of dealing with the second stimulus bill. No trial experience. His only professional achievement seems to be clerking for Kavanuagh.

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William Lewis  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:07:41pm

re: #344 John Hughes

One thing I’ve noted here is that if you act like a child, you get treated like a child. It’s happened to me a couple of times when I was out of line…

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:08:12pm

re: #319 Charles Johnson

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:08:30pm

A hotspot is Louisiana:

State of Louisiana COVID-19 Data Models Show Thousands of New Hospitalizations Daily Without Effective Social Distancing Measures

Louisiana’s modeling data show the state on course to require 2,500 new hospitalizations a day in the New Orleans area by mid-May, if the public does not adhere to COVID-19 mitigation measures like Gov. Edwards’ Stay at Home order.

Governor Edwards and the Louisiana Department of Health on Friday shared a product of the state’s COVID-19 modeling that takes into account the Governor’s aggressive mitigation measures.

[…]

Now the IHME model has the Louisiana peak much earlier, at 10 April, with few beds needed: covid19.healthdata.org

However, that model assumes that the social distancing and lockdown are tightly enforced, and the latest projections from Louisiana are based on what happens if people don’t obey the governor’s mandate.

Reality will probably be between the two extremes. But the IHME model has under predicted the actual Louisiana measured events, and I suspect that April 10th will come and go and Louisiana will be in several more weeks of deep problems.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:08:35pm

re: #351 William Lewis

One thing I’ve noted here is that if you act like a child, you get treated like a child. It’s happened to me a couple of times when I was out of line…

We’ve all had those moments. I’ve definitely had one.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:09:01pm

re: #352 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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Resting Asshole Face

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:11:27pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:11:36pm

re: #353 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Checking that site, Minnesota is almost set. With just a little less than 3 weeks to our projected peak on April 22, we only need 178 ICU beds - and information released by the governor suggests that they can turn up 1000+ beds within 24 hours of the order being given. The projected daily peak of deaths is 36/day and less than 1000 total. This blue state is fully prepared to lead by example.

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jamesfirecat  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:11:37pm

Guys I need/want your sage advice, or at least a chance to scream into the void.

I was lucky enough to get a job offer in early March that hasn’t been terminated and allowed me to start working again in late March after loosing my old job mid February.

There’s just one catch, I need to get a CAC (Common Access Card) which is something I’ve done two or three times before.

Now though… now I’ve managed to hunker in my home with my two parents since early March, and all of us are hale and healthy because we started practicing social distancing/sheltering in place way before it was the official order of the day in our state.

We’ve figured out how to order large quantities of food and other necessary supplies from distributors and the few activities that require us to interact with others can be done in ways that are more or less extremely unlikely to allow for the disease to be passed along (get needed medication in CVS drive through while wearing gloves and masks, have bottle placed in plastic container, leave container in car for several days)

I am scared out of my wits though about the prospect of going inside a building (where the virus can hang around rather than getting blown away by the wind) talking with people whose history I have no idea of knowing, and by necessity taking off any mask I wear to get my picture taken, and ditto gloves to get my finger prints checked.

I’m not so much worried about myself because I’m not in the category of those in extreme danger, but as noted I’m sheltering in place with my parents. I don’t know what my mental state would be like (other than bad) if me going out to get a CAC caused me to contract COVID and then pass it along to them and get one or both of them killed.

So right now in an email chain with my new boss I’m slowly but steadily building up to that being the red line I can’t cross and hoping that I’ll get lucky and they’ll be willing to bend/find some other way to keep me onboard…. because as some of you may remember I am the privileged Cis White Het Male Protestant Upper Middle Class child of two parents who are still married and alive who managed to pay off all their college loans less than three years out of college… I’m playing the game at life’s lowest difficulty setting where you still have to make an effort and the thought of loosing them BECAUSE OF SOMETHING I DID scares me way more than joining the shambling (well more like sitting) horde of unemployed… at least on a sane and rational level.

On an emotional level it sucks suck sucks to get fired for a concrete reason that you know if you just gave more of yourself you could avoid… but this is asking more than I think I can give right now….

So yeah, pity party table of Firecat… (blows steamer)

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austin_blue  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:12:58pm

re: #345 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

I think it’s about time for all sides to stop this little flame war and chill.

Really.

We’re better than this.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:13:56pm
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austin_blue  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:16:32pm

re: #354 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We’ve all had those moments. I’ve definitely had one.

Me four. I blame red wine and insomnia.

(Nah, it was all on me. Mostly in the Bad Old Days, though.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:17:10pm

re: #359 austin_blue

Fine. In the interest of trying to actually be helpful and peaceful, I offer this. From the original post:

and even then there’s been no definitive information to suggest that’s what happened.

It’s a statement that the theory is barely even tenuous, and the only reason there’s any credence given is because there’s literally no information available at all to prove or disprove ANY theory.

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unproven innocence  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:17:13pm

re: #332 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Picturing my husband’s tube socks.

Throwing up in my mind.

LOL. A new sock could work. Ok?

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:18:22pm
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William Lewis  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:19:08pm

re: #358 jamesfirecat

Guys I need/want your sage advice, or at least a chance to scream into the void.

I was lucky enough to get a job offer in early March that hasn’t been terminated and allowed me to start working again in late March after loosing my old job mid February.

There’s just one catch, I need to get a CAC (Common Access Card) which is something I’ve done two or three times before.

Now though… now I’ve managed to hunker in my home with my two parents since early March, and all of us are hale and healthy because we started practicing social distancing/sheltering in place way before it was the official order of the day in our state.

We’ve figured out how to order large quantities of food and other necessary supplies from distributors and the few activities that require us to interact with others can be done in ways that are more or less extremely unlikely to allow for the disease to be passed along (get needed medication in CVS drive through while wearing gloves and masks, have bottle placed in plastic container, leave container in car for several days)

I am scared out of my wits though about the prospect of going inside a building (where the virus can hang around rather than getting blown away by the wind) talking with people whose history I have no idea of knowing, and by necessity taking off any mask I wear to get my picture taken, and ditto gloves to get my finger prints checked.

I’m not so much worried about myself because I’m not in the category of those in extreme danger, but as noted I’m sheltering in place with my parents. I don’t know what my mental state would be like (other than bad) if me going out to get a CAC caused me to contract COVID and then pass it along to them and get one or both of them killed.

So right now in an email chain with my new boss I’m slowly but steadily building up to that being the red line I can’t cross and hoping that I’ll get lucky and they’ll be willing to bend/find some other way to keep me onboard…. because as some of you may remember I am the privileged Cis White Het Male Protestant Upper Middle Class child of two parents who are still married and alive who managed to pay off all their college loans less than three years out of college… I’m playing the game at life’s lowest difficulty setting where you still have to make an effort and the thought of loosing them BECAUSE OF SOMETHING I DID scares me way more than joining the shambling (well more like sitting) horde of unemployed… at least on a sane and rational level.

On an emotional level it sucks suck sucks to get fired for a concrete reason that you know if you just gave more of yourself you could avoid… but this is asking more than I think I can give right now….

So yeah, pity party table of Firecat… (blows steamer)

Get a set of painters coveralls. Tape the legs around your socks. Gloves. mask. Hood or hat. En-route to business, stop at hotel & rent a room. Put known clean cloths there. Do your business. On the way hope stop back at hotel. go to room. Take off other cloths and dispose of them. Shower. Change into known clean cloths. continue to mask and glove up if concerned. Go home.

Essentially very similar to what we were taught for chemical warfare in the Army, though be glad you’re not wearing the charcoal impregnated suits we had then (still do? I wonder.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:20:03pm

re: #358 jamesfirecat

It is up to you where you want to draw the line. There are no guarantees that you can avoid COVID-19 when you are out and staying at home is the best way to safeguard yourself. That said, a few things to consider:

a) to what extent would it be possible for you to isolate yourself from your parents within the house? If they made food for you but left it outside your door? Could you create a small sub-area inside the house where you could spend two weeks after the visit to get the card dealt with?

b) the risk when out in public, especially if you are diligent about washing hands/using hand sanitizer/wearing a mask whenever possible, is such that, paired with a sufficient ability to isolate within the house from you parents, I think it’s fair to consider whether you could make it work. Consider that, although this virus is contagious, it’s not so contagious that living in the same household as someone who has it is a guarantee of catching it - the rate for that is between 10 and 35%, depending on the study. It’s going to be considerably less out in public, especially if you are aware of the risk and taking measures to mitigate it.

That said, you’re the one who has to judge it for yourself - no one else can make that decision. Sending you lots of support no matter what.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:22:00pm

re: #365 William Lewis

Get a set of painters coveralls. Tape the legs around your socks. Gloves. mask. Hood or hat. En-route to business, stop at hotel & rent a room. Put known clean cloths there. Do your business. On the way hope stop back at hotel. go to room. Take off other cloths and dispose of them. Shower. Take off cloths and dispose of them. Change into known clean cloths. continue to mask and glove up if concerned. Go home.

Essentially very similar to what we were taught for chemical warfare in the Army, though be glad you’re not wearing the charcoal impregnated suits we had then (still do? I wonder.)

Changed the order a little.

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makeitstop  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:22:35pm

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

I was just thinking that exact thing. It’s like the scene in V for Vendetta where they send the Guy Fawkes masks out to everyone and one dude uses his to knock off a Convenience store.

What about all the cities that were so terrified of ANTIFA that they passed no-mask ordinances?

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:23:15pm

re: #358 jamesfirecat

I have no useful advice, but I can relate in part. I’ve been to the grocery store 3 times in the past 3 weeks, and each time I feel like Robert De Niro and Christopher Walken playing Russian Roulette in The Deer Hunter. I get in and out as fast as I can, and I don’t make wise choices. It sucks more ass than a purpose-built, crew-served, belt-fed, liquid-cooled, computer-assisted ass sucking device could ever hope to suck, and I’l be happy if things ever return to somewhat normal.

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steve_davis  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:23:33pm

re: #79 Joe Bacon 🌹

Seeing shit like this posted on relatives pages make me wish I could get drunk again…

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President Trump’s bodiness deserves to be dipped in bronze.

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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:24:07pm
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William Lewis  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:24:18pm

re: #367 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Changed the order a little.

Good point and appropriate to the method I was trying to remember from the 90’s.

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jamesfirecat  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:25:05pm

re: #366 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It is up to you where you want to draw the line. There are no guarantees that you can avoid COVID-19 when you are out and staying at home is the best way to safeguard yourself. That said, a few things to consider:

a) to what extent would it be possible for you to isolate yourself from your parents within the house? If they made food for you but left it outside your door? Could you create a small sub-area inside the house where you could spend two weeks after the visit to get the card dealt with?

b) the risk when out in public, especially if you are diligent about washing hands/using hand sanitizer/wearing a mask whenever possible, is such that, paired with a sufficient ability to isolate within the house from you parents, I think it’s fair to consider whether you could make it work. Consider that, although this virus is contagious, it’s not so contagious that living in the same household as someone who has it is a guarantee of catching it - the rate for that is between 10 and 35%, depending on the study. It’s going to be considerably less out in public, especially if you are aware of the risk and taking measures to mitigate it.

That said, you’re the one who has to judge it for yourself - no one else can make that decision. Sending you lots of support no matter what.

The issue is that no matter what precautions I take it is still a possibility, and I am too much of a coward to want to ever experience the emotional trauma of “you killed your parents so you could get a paycheck” when I’ve got more than enough money in the bank to just cower at home for a few months.

Also sadly I still don’t have my own driver’s license so I’d need to either get a cab/uber or have one of them drive me to the spot.

As for living in a private quarter, that could only really work if I kicked them out of their bedroom because it has a directly attached bathroom while mine is across the hall from my bedroom.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:26:02pm
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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:27:53pm

re: #373 jamesfirecat

Can you offer yourself as a test case for developing a new remote process for getting the CAC?

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steve_davis  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:27:55pm

re: #85 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

An “Act of God” to absolve them of any responsibility?

Blue cross blue shield just emailed me yesterday to tell me all out of pocket costs are now covered for covid 19. I suspect it isn’t altruism. More likely, they know this could very well be the straw that breaks the camel’s back, if millions of healthy people suddenly discover they’re on the hook for thousands upon thousands of dollars.

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austin_blue  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:28:05pm

re: #358 jamesfirecat

Guys I need/want your sage advice, or at least a chance to scream into the void.

I was lucky enough to get a job offer in early March that hasn’t been terminated and allowed me to start working again in late March after loosing my old job mid February.

There’s just one catch, I need to get a CAC (Common Access Card) which is something I’ve done two or three times before.

Now though… now I’ve managed to hunker in my home with my two parents since early March, and all of us are hale and healthy because we started practicing social distancing/sheltering in place way before it was the official order of the day in our state.

We’ve figured out how to order large quantities of food and other necessary supplies from distributors and the few activities that require us to interact with others can be done in ways that are more or less extremely unlikely to allow for the disease to be passed along (get needed medication in CVS drive through while wearing gloves and masks, have bottle placed in plastic container, leave container in car for several days)

I am scared out of my wits though about the prospect of going inside a building (where the virus can hang around rather than getting blown away by the wind) talking with people whose history I have no idea of knowing, and by necessity taking off any mask I wear to get my picture taken, and ditto gloves to get my finger prints checked.

I’m not so much worried about myself because I’m not in the category of those in extreme danger, but as noted I’m sheltering in place with my parents. I don’t know what my mental state would be like (other than bad) if me going out to get a CAC caused me to contract COVID and then pass it along to them and get one or both of them killed.

So right now in an email chain with my new boss I’m slowly but steadily building up to that being the red line I can’t cross and hoping that I’ll get lucky and they’ll be willing to bend/find some other way to keep me onboard…. because as some of you may remember I am the privileged Cis White Het Male Protestant Upper Middle Class child of two parents who are still married and alive who managed to pay off all their college loans less than three years out of college… I’m playing the game at life’s lowest difficulty setting where you still have to make an effort and the thought of loosing them BECAUSE OF SOMETHING I DID scares me way more than joining the shambling (well more like sitting) horde of unemployed… at least on a sane and rational level.

On an emotional level it sucks suck sucks to get fired for a concrete reason that you know if you just gave more of yourself you could avoid… but this is asking more than I think I can give right now….

So yeah, pity party table of Firecat… (blows steamer)

The fact is that this disease will *level*. That doesn’t mean disappear. That just means it will stop being hyperbolic and become chronic.

Everywhere.

I would just suggest that you wait for it to flatten in your state/county and then mask and glove up when you need to get out. Your chance of infection will be knowable, and less severe. Not zero, but knowable.

Protects you, and thus protects your parents. No guarantees, but a far less less chance than right now, where things are exponential. Be patient, be smart, and watch the curve.

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austin_blue  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:28:53pm

re: #360 teleskiguy

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Good on ya!

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jamesfirecat  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:29:43pm

re: #365 William Lewis

Get a set of painters coveralls. Tape the legs around your socks. Gloves. mask. Hood or hat. En-route to business, stop at hotel & rent a room. Put known clean cloths there. Do your business. On the way hope stop back at hotel. go to room. Take off other cloths and dispose of them. Shower. Change into known clean cloths. continue to mask and glove up if concerned. Go home.

Essentially very similar to what we were taught for chemical warfare in the Army, though be glad you’re not wearing the charcoal impregnated suits we had then (still do? I wonder.)

See my other reply, the problem with this approach is that I don’t even have my own driver’s license yet… I suppose I could use a cab/uber to the location and back from it to the hotel, then have my parents pick me up after I’m done doing everything I can to clean myself, but I really feel like the juice isn’t worth the squeeze at this point and for my own mental well being (because I’d be willing to role the dice if it was just me, but not for my parents) I’m better of drawing a red line and sticking to it, even if I get fired for it, since it seems like there are few less bad times to be fired then right now when it is happening to so many other people….

re: #375 jaunte

Can you offer yourself as a test case for developing a new remote process for getting the CAC?

Very good idea, I’ll consider that.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:30:59pm

This is the woman that Trump yelled at. Do you see a pattern?

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jamesfirecat  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:32:10pm

re: #377 austin_blue

The fact is that this disease will *level*. That doesn’t mean disappear. That just means it will stop being hyperbolic and become chronic.

Everywhere.

I would just suggest that you wait for it to flatten in your state/county and then mask and glove up when you need to get out. Your chance of infection will be knowable, and less severe. Not zero, but knowable.

Protects you, and thus protects your parents. No guarantees, but a far less less chance than right now, where things are exponential. Be patient, be smart, and watch the curve.

More or less my plan in regards to when I’ll feel comfortable going into a building other than my house again.

In a few months or so people will still be getting sick from COVID-19 but there should be hospital beds and ventilators to go around if the worst comes to the worst….

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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:32:19pm

re: #380 The Pie Overlord!

Good question, makes me look bad: NASTY.

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steve_davis  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:34:50pm

re: #99 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My old friend and skeptic co-conspirator Gilbert is an ordained minister, as are my son-in-law and my brother. My harsh view of fundy pulpit pimps is partly informed by what I hear from them, and partly from my own observations. My brother in particular thinks the funda-nuts are heretics and obvious charlatans, practicing what he calls “folk theology” while Gilbert calls it “recycled peasant superstition.”

My dad always said the problem with fundamentalists is they take the Bible literally where it’s metaphorical, and metaphorically where it’s literal.

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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:35:05pm

re: #333 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just once would even one spineless wimp in the DC Press Corpse call Trump a liar to his face?

My kingdom for a reporter with a voice like BRIAN BLESSED!!!! who doesn’t need a microphone to be heard to call out, “BUUUUULLLSHIIIIT!” from the audience whenever Trump opens his yap and lies.

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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:35:48pm
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Sherlock Hound  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:38:01pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:38:29pm

re: #385 lawhawk

The reporter does not want to lose White House Press credentials. DT is known to yank them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:39:48pm

re: #386 Sherlock Hound

People are torching cellphone towers.

Great. Just what we need, a fucking Luddite rebellion on top of a plague.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:41:02pm

re: #344 John Hughes

https://www.sciencesetavenir.fr/sante/le-nouveau-coronavirus-echappe-d-un-laboratoire-la-folle-rumeur-sur-le-web_141612

EC repeats bullshit from Le rassemblement nationale, Zero Hedge, and other fascist sources, LGF piles in on me.

Cool. Maybe LGF hasn’t changed so much after all.

Maybe you should hold off posting here until you learn the difference between, “there’s nothing to support that theory,” and “fuck off and die.” Most of us picked it up pretty easily.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:41:05pm

I think my stock portfolio is worth about $2.98 at this point. Who knew that a warehouse full of toilet paper would be worth more than Boeing?/

(Seriously, I sold my Boeing stock shortly after I learned about the Max fiasco, since this confirmed my growing suspicion that the company was run by homicidal morons. I am convinced that except for a few Trump-favored fatcats, the supply gougers are going to lose their shirts, and even the well-connected gougers may find themselves in the dock at a future tribunal.)

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stpaulbear  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:41:38pm

re: #360 teleskiguy

Congrats and keep on it! I’m at about 436 months. Not that I’m the picture of how fabulous a sober life can turn out, but It’s always been the best place to be while making all of my other life-choices.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:41:45pm
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lawhawk  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:41:52pm

re: #380 The Pie Overlord!

Trump talking about predictive models had to “joke” about banging models.

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EPR-radar  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:42:27pm

re: #298 klys (maker of Silmarils)

If you think telling someone to fuck off and die is an appropriate reaction to any comment here, you might be a better fit for reddit.

This is true because our right wing trolls are extinct.

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jaunte  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:42:57pm

re: #392 teleskiguy

Someone else getting attention is a major problem for him.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:43:14pm

re: #350 Teddy’s Person

Moscow Mitch continues to pack the courts with unqualified reactionaries.

This is the guy Mitch and I-like-Beer Kavanaugh partied with in Kentucky instead of dealing with the second stimulus bill. No trial experience. His only professional achievement seems to be clerking for Kavanuagh.

Let’s hope that enough repugs need to self-quarantine to make confirmation difficult. Or a nice long covid confinement.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:43:21pm

re: #352 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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austin_blue  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:44:40pm

re: #386 Sherlock Hound

People are torching cellphone towers.

I would suggest taking a large grain of salt sufficient to induce vomiting.

It IS, after all, The Sun.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:44:50pm

re: #302 The Pie Overlord!

It’s 47F here in Rockwall. Of course it’s not going away. //

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:45:22pm
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jamesfirecat  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:45:51pm

re: #392 teleskiguy

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I was a bored child in church with ADHD can confirm.

My parents eventually let me and my brother bring books to read as we sat up in a rafter like section that was more or less empty rather than down in the pews.

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plansbandc  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:45:55pm

re: #390 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Our retirement is less than half what it was and will be pretty much gone by the time this flattens out. We may very well end up living in our car and trying to find odd jobs to survive.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:52:47pm

re: #379 jamesfirecat

See my other reply, the problem with this approach is that I don’t even have my own driver’s license yet… I suppose I could use a cab/uber to the location and back from it to the hotel, then have my parents pick me up after I’m done doing everything I can to clean myself, but I really feel like the juice isn’t worth the squeeze at this point and for my own mental well being (because I’d be willing to role the dice if it was just me, but not for my parents) I’m better of drawing a red line and sticking to it, even if I get fired for it, since it seems like there are few less bad times to be fired then right now when it is happening to so many other people….

Very good idea, I’ll consider that.

Son2 worked at his contractor job for more than a month before the CAC process finally came up with his card. See if you can work under supervision and limited access until things cool.

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mmmirele  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:56:15pm

re: #398 austin_blue

I would suggest taking a large grain of salt sufficient to induce vomiting.

It IS, after all, The Sun.

Yeah, the first thing I did was go look for a more reliable and respectable source of news. I found it. Here’s the Guardian:

Telecoms engineers are facing verbal and physical threats during the lockdown, as baseless conspiracy theories linking coronavirus to the roll-out of 5G technology spread by celebrities such as Amanda Holden prompt members of the public to abuse those maintaining vital mobile phone and broadband networks.

Facebook has removed one anti-5G group in which users were being encouraged to supply footage of them destroying mobile phone equipment, with some contributors seemingly under the pretence that it may stop the spread of coronavirus and some running leaderboards of where equipment had been targeted.

Video footage of a 70ft (20 metre) telephone mast on fire in Birmingham this week has also circulated widely alongside claims it was targeted by anti-5G protesters. Network operator EE told the Guardian that its engineers were still on site assessing the cause of the fire but it “looks likely at this time” that it was an arson attack.

theguardian.com

There’s got to be a better word than Luddite. The Luddites were (rightly) afraid that their jobs were going away. These people are just nutters. Someone have a better word???

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steve_davis  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:58:16pm

re: #151 Florida Panhandler

The rise of the Stone-Campbell Movement (a return to an idealized “early Christianity” i.e… entirely made up around Scots-Irish and existing Protestant American cultural norms and constraints) of the early 1800’s quickly grew and then led to the Dominionist hellscape we see today. They are primitive thinkers and ruthless. No amount of classical logic, intellectual reason, or fact-based evidence can sway their behavior or views. They are a broad enormous cult fed by a astroturfed Top-down/ groundswell circle jerk of support.

One clue is how much Baptists despise many of these groups, especially the Jonesers here in the upstate. People think of Baptists as being rigid fundamentalists, but honestly, the folks I work with are sometimes irritatingly conservative, but not given to quackery. Hell, First Baptist of Greenville has its own freakin’ orchestra, mostly composed of Furman faculty and students, and is probably what one would consider “high church” baptist, to the point where Furman told the Southern Baptist Convention to go bend itself around a tree. I mention this only because I know there is some naivete on the board concerning just how various denominations fit into the pantheon.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 3, 2020 • 4:59:55pm

re: #369 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I have no useful advice, but I can relate in part. I’ve been to the grocery store 3 times in the past 3 weeks, and each time I feel like Robert De Niro and Christopher Walken playing Russian Roulette in The Deer Hunter. I get in and out as fast as I can, and I don’t make wise choices. It sucks more ass than a purpose-built, crew-served, belt-fed, liquid-cooled, computer-assisted ass sucking device could ever hope to suck, and I’l be happy if things ever return to somewhat normal.

On the other hand (but I risk only myself), I cannot manage to worry that much about it. I go out every day to exercise (social distance and then some maintained), and usually stop in at least one place to pick up food or takeout (now that I’ve found the hand sanitizer). I change my clothes and wash my hands before I go out, keep my distance, don’t touch anything I don’t buy, and spend little time there. When I get home, I change and wash my hands again.

I’ve read that catching the virus is a very outside chance until you spend at least 15 minutes in close contact with someone. I haven’t seen any epidemiological studies yet (there hasn’t been time) but clusters of infections are coming from church meetings and dinner parties, not from random, brief contacts as far as I can see.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:03:27pm

re: #384 A Three Hour Tour

My kingdom for a reporter with a voice like BRIAN BLESSED!!!! who doesn’t need a microphone to be heard to call out, “BUUUUULLLSHIIIIT!” from the audience whenever Trump opens his yap and lies.

Brian Blessed is MrBWS’s hero

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:07:31pm

re: #390 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think my stock portfolio is worth about $2.98 at this point. Who knew that a warehouse full of toilet paper would be worth more than Boeing?/

(Seriously, I sold my Boeing stock shortly after I learned about the Max fiasco, since this confirmed my growing suspicion that the company was run by homicidal morons. I am convinced that except for a few Trump-favored fatcats, the supply gougers are going to lose their shirts, and even the well-connected gougers may find themselves in the dock at a future tribunal.)

Our monthly Edward Jones statement arrived today (inherited from MrBWS’s dad).
The funds lost 10% since last month, and back to where is was three years ago.

so much WINNING…

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steve_davis  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:10:52pm

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

Our monthly Edward Jones statement arrived today (inherited from MrBWS’s dad).
The funds lost 10% since last month, and back to where is was three years ago.

so much WINNING…

same. I’m incredibly conservative and I’m down as of today about 7.5% Yes, I have time, but sadly, so does corona.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 3, 2020 • 5:28:18pm

re: #404 mmmirele

I’d just go with Fucking Idiots. Simple, direct, to the point.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 4, 2020 • 2:05:13am

re: #272 The Pie Overlord!

There were no “tests” for COVID19 3 years ago because it didn’t even exist then.

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He’s not trying to convince you. He’s just dumping out convenient lies for the base to rally around since they fit their preconception of reality.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:22:31am

re: #75 Kilroy was here

Good lord does that take me back 40 years.


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