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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:35:57pm

Works for me…

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:36:32pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:36:43pm

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:36:57pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:39:43pm

Colorado is a blue state. And our one Republican senator is starting to get cold feet in re: slobbering devotion to Fuckface Von Clownstick.

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sagehen  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:42:43pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:44:45pm

Car accident.

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carey94tt  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:49:00pm

My daughter called me in a crying panic. She has the virus and was terrified to go to the hospital as advised by her doctor. We discussed her symptoms and decided that I would call her every hour and if she got worse, we would call the hospital for instructions. She is 22 and this is day 5 of symptoms. I ended up getting her Albuterol from the Walgreens and left if for her. She is doing much better - sleeping. She said not to call till morning.

My wife cannot have gall bladder surgery due to two severe concussions she received in March. She hit her head on a metal table after a fall..then was hit in a car accident by someone not paying attention on her first day attempting to drive. Anesthesia and concussions don’t play well together - possible permanent damage.

Shit…seriously. I have so much anger with Trump and enabling Republicans.

I imagine being a super volunteer for any democrat up for election. I would guess a lot of people feel this way.

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BeachDem  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:53:34pm

It wasn’t so much a fear of dying, but rather the knowledge that what was happening was worse than death—that the future would be one endless day of nothingness.

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:55:21pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 8:58:56pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:00:11pm
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CBGB  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:02:01pm

I’m not exactly prone to conspiratorial thinking, but they’re definitely trying to make things as bad as possible in blue states so they can point to the ‘destructiveness’ of liberal governance, right?

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:02:44pm

This is on the front page of lowes.com:

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:04:16pm

re: #13 CBGB

I’m not exactly prone to conspiratorial thinking, but they’re definitely trying to make things as bad as possible in blue states so they can point to the ‘destructiveness’ of liberal governance, right?

Which might have worked except he fired a captain for taking care of his crew. Oh, and it’s getting out there what’s happening with the stuff being confiscated.

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SerialUpDinger  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:06:24pm

Flickr

Common Name(s):Sticky Monkey Flower
Scientific Name:Diplacus aurantiacus
Family:Phrymaceae (Lopseed)
Same shot with Aperture Priority and manual flash 1/4 setting

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:08:21pm

another small shake…

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William Lewis  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:08:31pm

re: #10 Disloyal Archangel

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I keep trying to write the first paragraph of this memoir of The Terror but the anger and hurt and the still lingering fear of the revolution that followed in the footsteps of the plague leaves me speechless instead.

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CBGB  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:12:01pm

re: #15 Belafon

lol as if that will matter

It should, but none of the granular details will matter, at all.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:12:35pm

re: #8 carey94tt

{{{}}}

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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:17:21pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:19:19pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:19:37pm

Masses of people in Osaka live stream, they are all Hanami (flower watching):

(April, 2020) Osaka Japan Situation Update +Sakura Walk Livestream, Let’s Enjoy Sakura with Foods !

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:22:08pm

re: #21 gocart mozart

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Few things as soul-nourishing as watching assholes like Talcum X getting owned.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:24:52pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:25:38pm

I miss hanami in Osaka and Nara. Anyway, surprised to see so many people out, not a lot of social distancing though of course lots of masks.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:33:53pm

It’s Saturday afternoon in Osaka so a lot of people are not at work, but I expected there to be fewer people out and about. Doesn’t seem they are doing much different than a normal year hanami.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:35:10pm
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:35:15pm

When the Coronavirus-induced shutdown ends, hundreds, possibly thousands of dormant planes will have to return to service.

I hope the mechanics are ready.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:40:36pm
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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:42:36pm
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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:45:45pm
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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:46:25pm

I didn’t hear about the supplies bound for Germany:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:49:44pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:50:48pm

re: #33 Belafon

I didn’t hear about the supplies bound for Germany:

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Both the Canadian orders and the German orders were from 3M. Trump has decided that he’s going to fuck with their business.

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Citizen K  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:53:02pm

re: #35 stpaulbear

Both the Canadian orders and the German orders were from 3M. Trump has decided that he’s going to fuck with their business.

Considering he tried to get that one German company to produce vaccine exclusively for the US and only the US? Par for the fucking course for this guy.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 9:58:47pm
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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:00:46pm

Not my state, but:

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:05:52pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:08:15pm
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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:09:05pm

re: #21 gocart mozart

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I’m scrolling through my twitter feed - obviously - and there are so many comments about Shaun.

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:10:06pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:10:27pm

JFC

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danarchy  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:12:58pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

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They may not be that useless. Cuomo has been talking about converting bipaps all week.

governor.ny.gov

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:13:18pm

…. shaking again…

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:14:33pm

re: #24 Targetpractice

Few things as soul-nourishing as watching assholes like Talcum X getting owned.

Except for inventing new names for him…Thurgood Partial, Feelgood Marshall, Martin Luther Keyboard, and today’s favorite, Snow J. Simpson!

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:15:00pm

re: #21 gocart mozart

He’s digging:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:17:23pm

Looks like an active night in the crust of the planet over the western US. Cluster near the Riverside/San Diego border (which I am feeling), another up in the high desert where the big one was a few months ago, and now in central Idaho.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:18:56pm

The one I just felt was a 3.6, part of that same cluster. I wonder if a few mountains are slipping down an inch or two?

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:19:03pm

Also, there are too many likes in this one from Shaun:

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:20:22pm

re: #50 Belafon

Anand has gone around the bend. Just after I followed him. Pity.

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Citizen K  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:20:45pm

Oh sweet fucking lord. People trying to un-cancel Andrew Yang saying that his op-ed was just about ‘practical solutions’ and how ‘no one else is putting solutions forward’.

When he’s saying the same exact status quo shit that every single fucking minority has had to deal with for centuries, and Asian-Americans for at least over 100. The sacrifice to respectability politics and deference to the great American default. Because that’s the brilliant new fucking solution to people wanting to lynch Asian-Americans because they think the Chinese literally invented a virus.

Ya see, that’s the exact problem there: respectability politics only work long as you can avoid being the convenient scapegoat for the ‘Default’, after which all that shit gets thrown to the wayside and you get hard othered yet again. And yet people are trying to celebrate this as some brilliant new thought and approach.

Like…no, fuck that. Minorities are already expected to tear off our own skin and dance around Buffalo Bill style in an American flag to prove we belong and maybe only then we get tolerated by the Great American Default, and that only lasts so fucking long.

Good goddamn, I hate people who continue to hold Racism up as a great angry god that just needs to be appeased rather than a cancer that needs to be fought.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:21:47pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

JFC

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Why is he so “timid”? Simple answer: He’s still not taking this outbreak seriously. The explanation was given weeks ago when he was asked why he fired the epidemic response team, that he doesn’t like having people “stand around” and doesn’t like buying equipment until it’s “needed.” The man truly still believes that this is all going to be “over” in a matter of days or weeks, that it will all go back to “normal” virtually overnight, and his big concern is getting the economy firing on all cylinders again than the health of the American people. So what if hundreds of thousands die? That just means more jobs for the survivors!

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:24:28pm

re: #52 Citizen K

Respectability politics works for the disabled community, oh wait…
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(It wasn’t so long ago that Yang, like a typical techbro, was saying that the disability community was a small one and could wait until “more important” problems could be addressed.)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:25:05pm

Quite the little swarm in the desert mountains. This is northwest of Borrego Springs, the desert community in far northeast San Diego county. The rolling today is just across the border into Riverside county. No people live up there, just some sheep and coyotes, possible a mountain lion.

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uriel  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:25:42pm

re: #34 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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That seems… really, really bad.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:27:08pm

… forgot the image. Reload for the map.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:28:15pm

Hotspot no one is speaking of

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Belafon  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:29:47pm

re: #58 Dave In Austin

Hotspot no one is speaking of

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Trump will just have it disbanded so it doesn’t count at all.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:31:30pm

Did Trump cave first?

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Citizen K  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:31:56pm

re: #54 Sherlock Hound

Respectability politics works for the disabled community, oh wait…
///
(It wasn’t so long ago that Yang, like a typical techbro, was saying that the disability community was a small one and could wait until “more important” problems could be addressed.)

ONe of the things coming up in defense of Yang is the idea of ‘being the change you can believe in’. That somehow just being a good person will soften hearts.

…motherfucker, even Martin Luther King, who got bleached and sanitized post-mortem into a vague ‘peace, love, and non-violence’ figure didn’t believe that. Simply being a good person simply makes you one of the ‘good ones’, it makes you the exception rather than the rule to those who are intent on maintaining the ‘other’.

This kind of shit is not something you survive and win through attrition just by being. ‘Being the change you can believe in’ is just…you know…being a good person. That’s…good, but not sufficient. Prejudice does not die without being actively fought. Xenophobia, Sexism, Religious Bigotry, etc. does not die without actively being fought. It’s like they completely misinterpreted the thrust of that old Gandhi-(mis-)attributed axiom: “”First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”. They interpret it as simply persisting under a force, rather than being an active opposition to a force.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:38:35pm

If you measure death rate as deaths against all reported cases then the rate is 5.3%. If you measure death rate as only the resolved cases, then the death rate is 20.5%

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:41:47pm

The grift keeps on keepin’ on.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:50:08pm

re: #63 teleskiguy

I don’t remember who it was, but someone recently said that Candace Owens is exactly the right combination of stupid and dangerous to become a superstar in modern American society. I think that’s entirely too accurate. People love to express optimistic, sunny-side-up feelings about the USA, but I think right now our primary defining characteristic is that as a culture we’re just dumber than shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:56:09pm

Looks like Georgia has entered the [actively trying to get people killed] chatroom:

Some of the state’s most popular beaches will be allowed to reopen Friday night due to Gov. Brian Kemp’s statewide order superseding that of some city-level shelter-in-place mandates.

Georgia beach communities, including Tybee Island, had closed in response to local mandates imposed to limit the spread of COVID-19, Department of Natural Resources officials told news station WJCL. The beaches had the option to reopen at the start of the stay-at-home order’s execution at 6 p.m. Friday.

“The Governor’s Executive Order suspends the enforcement of any local ordinance or order adopted or issued since March 1, 2020, that relates to COVID-19,” said Josh Hildebrandt, director of public and governmental affairs for DNR. “This Executive Order thus lifted any local ordinances or orders that had closed or restricted access to Georgia beaches.”

ajc.com

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:57:29pm

re: #64 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I don’t remember who it was, but someone recently said that Candace Owens is exactly the right combination of stupid and dangerous to become a superstar in modern American society. I think that’s entirely too accurate. People love to express optimistic, sunny-side-up feelings about the USA, but I think right now our primary defining characteristic is that as a culture we’re just dumber than shit.

It is the triumph of anti-intellectualism. The Age of Unreason has begun.

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Targetpractice  Apr 3, 2020 • 10:59:29pm

You know that one job you had, maybe as a teen or in your adult years, with that one boss who seemed to resent the idea of spending money? You walked in on that first day and saw people struggling with equipment that looked like it had been new when Ike was in office or computers running programs that hadn’t seen a graphical update since mullets were fashionable?

Who would drag your supervisor in and make them justify items on the monthly expenses and be flabbergasted that you couldn’t just “reuse” something intended to be disposable?

Who’d wait until the very last minute to order supplies, usually towards the end of the month/quarter, so that you were always running out of something in a crunch period, all because he worried about ordering “too much” and thus spending money on something that “wasn’t needed”?

And whose first reaction whenever told something was broken was to grab the most tech-savvy guy in the office and task the poor fucker with “fixing” it, no matter how long it took or how far behind it was putting him with his own work?

That’s Trump in a nutshell. He is the Bill Lumbergh of American presidents.

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teleskiguy  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:02:12pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

Giphy

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:16:53pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:32:35pm

re: #9 BeachDem

What’s the first sentence of the best novel that will be written about this epidemic?

It was all a hoax!

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EPR-radar  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:37:36pm

re: #9 BeachDem

“What’s the first sentence of the best novel that will be written about this epidemic?”

I’ll go with wishful thinking and non-fiction for this one:

“Trump’s bungled response to the covid19 pandemic in the US ended the national power of the Republican party.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:41:53pm

re: #40 Dread Pirate

As toilet roll becomes symbol of coronavirus-era panic buying, the bidet gains traction in US and Europe. Yet it was France that gave the world the word ‘bidet’

I always wondered why such an eminently useful bit of plumbing was not common outside France, but I read that it came to be frowned on as a symbol of sinful licentiousness, as prostitutes were known to use it to flush themselves out between clients…

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Dread Pirate  Apr 3, 2020 • 11:58:51pm

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I always wondered why such an eminently useful bit of plumbing was not common outside France, but I read that it came to be frowned on as a symbol of sinful licentiousness, as prostitutes were known to use it to flush themselves out between clients…

Ain’t no way I squirting cold water up my ass. That’s going to need an instant warm water setup.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:04:40am

Canadian Quarantine.

Guys in a Quarantine Bar

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Cheechako  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:05:28am

re: #74 Dread Pirate

Ain’t no way I squirting cold water up my ass. That’s going to need an instant warm water setup.

I’m with you on that. I measured the temperature of the cold water coming out of the the bathroom spout in February. A nice warm 34.5 degrees. If I ever sprayed that water on my butt you’d have to peel me off the ceiling.

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teleskiguy  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:07:30am
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BigPapa  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:13:03am

do really nasty roast garlic farts kill the rona? Asking for a friend.

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EPR-radar  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:17:06am

re: #76 Cheechako

I’m with you on that. I measured the temperature of the cold water coming out of the the bathroom spout in February. A nice warm 34.5 degrees. If I ever sprayed that water on my butt you’d have to peel me off the ceiling.

Unless a bidet comes with crazy accessories like a blow drying option, it doesn’t seem like it would reduce TP consumption very much.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:19:30am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I always wondered why such an eminently useful bit of plumbing was not common outside France, but I guess it came to be frowned on as a symbol of sinful licentiousness, as prostitutes were known to use it to flush themselves out between clients…

Well, one reason is that they were more expensive until relatively recently, both in terms of plumbing costs and floor space. Even today, you’ll often still see them portrayed in American media as something that the “well-to-do” have because they can afford the cost of installing one.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:23:28am

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sagehen  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:27:37am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I always wondered why such an eminently useful bit of plumbing was not common outside France, but I read that it came to be frowned on as a symbol of sinful licentiousness, as prostitutes were known to use it to flush themselves out between clients…

I always assumed it had something to do with the size of most people’s bathrooms, and how much extra space it would take to have both a toilet and a bidet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:28:29am

re: #74 Dread Pirate

Ain’t no way I squirting cold water up my ass. That’s going to need an instant warm water setup.

Proper bidets have that, I have also seen a bidet hose attachment that connects under the sink (you regulate the temp with the sink tap)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:29:30am

re: #79 EPR-radar

Unless a bidet comes with crazy accessories like a blow drying option, it doesn’t seem like it would reduce TP consumption very much.

I have read about Japanese toilets which have that feature.

If you are washed off, then you can use a (dedicated) towel for that.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:33:30am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have read about Japanese toilets which have that feature.

If you are washed off, then you can use a (dedicated) towel for that.

Like this:

How to use a Japanese Toilet

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:35:02am

re: #82 sagehen

I always assumed it had something to do with the size of most people’s bathrooms, and how much extra space it would take to have both a toilet and a bidet.

found this article

“Because the fixture was a French invention, it was rejected by the English, and that sentiment drifted across the pond. During World War II, the Times notes, American soldiers saw bidets in European brothels, “perpetuating the idea that bidets were somehow associated with immorality.”

It also mentions that size also plays a role. But American bathrooms are generally enormous compared to their European counterparts.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:38:22am
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Dave In Austin  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:39:25am

Ye Olde Garden Hose for me!!
amazon.com

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Dave In Austin  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:43:09am

This one washes the windows as well.

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BigPapa  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:43:21am

bidet translates to ass blaster in Engrish.

Loosely.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:45:57am

re: #90 BigPapa

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Dave In Austin  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:47:37am

And this one?? Well. I have questions about this one.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:53:03am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We’ll call them Freedom Fountains!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:56:30am

re: #92 Dave In Austin

And this one?? Well. I have questions about this one.

It attaches under the sink, you hang the hose next to the toilet. I have used one, but it tends to splash all over. Nothing beats the petit Robert as the French call their bidets.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:57:30am

The Charles Manson of presidents.

Is It Possible to Overstate Trump’s Depravity?

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BigPapa  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:57:35am

re: #91 Dave In Austin

(GAZE)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 12:59:52am

re: #95 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Charles Manson of presidents.

Is It Possible to Overstate Trump’s Depravity?

He is still ratings gold and we cannot get our reporters to back away from their fawning feigned admiration. Let us just hope that enough voters (in the right places) see through it and remove him ignominiously from office.

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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2020 • 1:05:07am

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

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Feds send out broken/rotting supplies to desperate blue states, then seizes and hoards brand new supplies straight from the factories while insisting that such is theirs to use or distribute.

This is a fucking protection racket.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 1:09:44am

Germany is likely to top 100K cases today (with 1,275 fatalities), good news is that the rate of doubling is nearly 10 days, compared to half of that for the US and UK.

And that is still fewer cases and fatalities than New York State alone
(Germany: population 83 million, NY: 19.5 mil)

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Teukka  Apr 4, 2020 • 1:13:32am

re: #98 Targetpractice

Feds send out broken/rotting supplies to desperate blue states, then seizes and hoards brand new supplies straight from the factories while insisting that such is theirs to use or distribute.

This is a fucking protection racket.

I’m afraid of posting this question, but….
How long before it becomes even more apparent?

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BigPapa  Apr 4, 2020 • 1:15:54am

If I was going to come over to the pineapple on pizza dark side:

‘real’ Hawaiian pizza

fresh shredded white pineapple, or pre grilled
portugese sausage sliced thinly
Maui onions

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BigPapa  Apr 4, 2020 • 1:18:44am

i was having a moment of weakness

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BigPapa  Apr 4, 2020 • 1:21:47am

instead of portuguese sausage maybe Hawaiian style smoke meat

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 4, 2020 • 1:27:33am
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Targetpractice  Apr 4, 2020 • 2:05:12am

Look for the WH to pull the same shit that shady sheriffs/cops do of seizing “suspicious” amounts of money/goods as “evidence” of a possible crime and that they’ll have to “investigate” before they can give it back. What’s that? How long will it take? Just long enough for the law to transfer ownership to us. You’re free to go, we’ll let you know when our “investigation” is concluded.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 2:07:31am

re: #105 Targetpractice

Look for the WH to pull the same shit that shady sheriffs/cops do of seizing “suspicious” amounts of money/goods as “evidence” of a possible crime and that they’ll have to “investigate” before they can give it back. What’s that? How long will it take? Just long enough for the law to transfer ownership to us. You’re free to go, we’ll let you know when our “investigation” is concluded.

Their argument is that there is no writ of habeas corpus for property…that is what happened to people who had property seized and were later exonerated but never got their property back.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 2:13:10am

re: #101 BigPapa

If I was going to come over to the pineapple on pizza dark side:

‘real’ Hawaiian pizza

fresh shredded white pineapple, or pre grilled
portugese sausage sliced thinly
Maui onions

Maul onions?

oh, Maui onions

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 4, 2020 • 2:22:05am

India is likely in for some real bad times, as the coronavirus is starting to move into the rural heartlands.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

India has the potential to be a recipe for an unmitigated disaster when it comes to pandemics. Poor sanitation and very close, crowded contact with little access to proper healthcare in rural India is the stuff of apocalyptic nightmares.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 4, 2020 • 2:35:47am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Maul onions?

oh, Maui onions

Darth Maul onions stare at you intently, look intimidating and angry, but dice up much easier than you expect them to.
// ;)

Morning everyone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 2:37:46am

re: #109 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Darth Maul onions stare at you intently, look intimidating and angry, but dice up much easier than you expect them to.
// ;)

Morning everyone.

and you slice them with a double-bladed knife…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 4, 2020 • 3:03:15am

re: #110 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and you slice them with a double-bladed knife…

Dire Straits - Six Blade Knife

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 4, 2020 • 4:17:17am

sound medical advice

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 4, 2020 • 4:23:01am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 4, 2020 • 4:25:11am

re: #113 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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Because he’s a Goebells cosplaying asshole.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:14:16am

re: #73 BigPapa

Media has it’s issues, it’s not a monolith. Click farming doesn’t help for sure. But a large part of Trump surviving in this media environment, if not thriving, is our media treating him like all the rest of the Presidents before him giving him the benefit of the doubt, assuming he’ll play by rules long respected, that he’s a good faith actor. It appears we offer the same relative respect for all the other right wing grifters and give them a basic level of de facto respect.

The media are giving him very special treatment. He is the first reality-star TV President, and his administration is a 24/7 political/crime/scandal/sex show. Our broadcast media do not want to see it end, because in the end, their main concern is drawing an audience. And they are willing to keep it playing regardless of what it is doing to this nation.

If they were treating him the way he deserves, they would not let him get away with what he does, they would ignore his bullshit and walk out of his conferences when he attacks fellow members of the Press, not cover his rallies and try to rationalize or explain away his contradictions and blatant misinformation.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:17:09am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The media are giving him very special treatment. He is the first reality-star TV President, and his administration is a 24/7 political/crime/scandal/sex show. Our broadcast media do not want to see it end, because in the end, their main concern is drawing an audience. And they are willing to keep it playing regardless of what it is doing to this nation.

If they were treating him the way he deserves, they would not let him get away with what he does, they would ignore his bullshit and walk out of his conferences when he attacks fellow members of the Press, not cover his rallies and try to rationalize or explain away his contradictions and blatant misinformation.

Piled on this is that the GOP in general seems to get at least partially the same treatment. (And that’s beyond Fox’s very biased spin.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:24:54am

re: #117 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Piled on this is that the GOP in general seems to get at least partially the same treatment. (And that’s beyond Fox’s very biased spin.)

They really think that what McConnell is doing is normal politics.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:33:35am

Note: When governors of ex-Confederate states finally are shamed into statewide shelter-in-place orders, they are just as likely to negate the restrictions emplaced by smarter local leaders. Georgia is RE-OPENING beaches closed by mayors.

ajc.com

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jeffreyw  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:33:55am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:34:33am

re: #119 Decatur Deb

Note: When governors of ex-Confederate states finally are shamed into statewide shelter-in-place orders, they are just as likely to negate the restrictions emplaced by smarter local leaders. Georgia is RE-OPENING beaches closed by mayors.

and they will do nothing to prevent mass religious services at Easter…so we are going to see another major wave hitting the US in a couple of weeks…

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:38:38am

re: #119 Decatur Deb

Note: When governors of ex-Confederate states finally are shamed into statewide shelter-in-place orders, they are just as likely to negate the restrictions emplaced by smarter local leaders. Georgia is RE-OPENING beaches closed by mayors.

ajc.com

Tennis courts next!!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:44:28am

re: #122 Shropshire Slasher

Tennis courts next!!

Our libraries are closed, our churches are open.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:45:59am

They will keep on with their “abortion clinics are open but churches are closed!” indignation until they all start showing symptoms…

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:50:31am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will keep on with their “abortion clinics are open but churches are closed!” indignation until they all start showing symptoms…

And then blame it on abortion clinics and libs as God punishing the country for allowing them to exist.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:51:58am

When you bother to collect the data:

Early Data Shows African Americans Have Contracted and Died of Coronavirus at an Alarming Rate

propublica.org

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Mike Lamb  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:57:01am

re: #113 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

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More than that….Kushner the Frog and the rest of the yahoos are saying NY doesn’t need that many ventilators right now. So they are burning the candle at both ends: Why weren’t you building your stockpile even though you don’t need the amounts we are criticizing you for not buying?

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:58:08am

re: #74 Dread Pirate

Ain’t no way I squirting cold water up my ass. That’s going to need an instant warm water setup.

The ROLLS-ROYCE of Bidets

Yes, they warm the water and they blow dry.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 4, 2020 • 5:59:33am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and they will do nothing to prevent mass religious services at Easter…so we are going to see another major wave hitting the US in a couple of weeks…

That implies we might be past this wave.

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Jay C  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:00:34am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will keep on with their “abortion clinics are open but churches are closed!” indignation until they all start showing symptoms…

Of course, if churches took the same care to protect their “patrons” from the coronavirus as abortion clinics (or really, any medical or medical-related facility) do, they wouldn’t have to worry….

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Teukka  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:01:33am

:tehee:

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:08:05am

Donald “Jericho” Trump.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:17:26am

re: #13 CBGB

I’m not exactly prone to conspiratorial thinking, but they’re definitely trying to make things as bad as possible in blue states so they can point to the ‘destructiveness’ of liberal governance, right?

By exposing the destructiveness of conservative governance.

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:20:52am
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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:24:51am

re: #60 Dread Pirate

Trump’s idiotic approach to oil prices is idiotic.

Low oil prices aren’t going to get people to start driving and using products again because the pandemic rages on uncontrolled. Raising oil prices to keep the US domestic oil industry afloat isn’t going to help either. These are the same companies that had record profits over the past few years. They don’t need a bailout when they’ve been entitled to countless and endless tax breaks for decades.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:31:50am

Great thread. There are some brilliant sentences in here.

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:32:44am

re: #95 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Charles Manson of presidents.

Is It Possible to Overstate Trump’s Depravity?

No. It is simply not possible.

Trump extorted Ukraine to get dirt on Biden (and was caught red handed by his own admission not that the GOP cared).

Trump’s now extorting states to do what he wants, and withholds aid and critical gear, all while Americans are dying at an increasing rate.

Trump’s death toll keeps rising exponentially. His actions are responsible for thousands dead in Puerto Rico, and now thousands of Americans across the nation, with a possible catastrophic death toll.

And this is just within the first year of this pandemic. We are guaranteeing that the US is a reservoir of the covid19 virus that will continue to rage around the world because no one in Trumpworld is bothering to engage in a nationwide shutdown of all nonessential businesses - health and food only (and support businesses for both).

Trumpists and GOPers keep excluding churches and gun shops from shutdown orders.

And undermining local restrictions. Like Georgia governor overruling local closures of beaches.

There’s still no restrictions or screening on domestic air travel.

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:34:29am
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:37:28am
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Teukka  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:39:20am

re: #136 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Great thread. There are some brilliant sentences in here.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:40:59am

re: #140 Teukka

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:41:30am

re: #121 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and they will do nothing to prevent mass religious services at Easter…so we are going to see another major wave hitting the US in a couple of weeks…

it will be interesting contrast as churches open here while the pope continues to pray to an empty vatican square

maybe the pope has better information because the connection is clearer
it is a local call for him after all

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:43:26am

re: #125 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And then blame it on abortion clinics and libs as God punishing the country for allowing them to exist.

yes, and they can forgive any GOP wife abuser or philanderer who repents before God but will never forgive godless Democrats who allow legal babycide.

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Teukka  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:46:35am

On a side note, this was the kind of coverage Brett Crozier has gotten in Swedish Public Service TV: svt.se

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:49:46am

re: #144 BigPapa

*yawn*. It was and still is a racial slur.

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BigPapa  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:54:44am

re: #146 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

*yawn*. It was and still is a racial slur.

This is a racial slur.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 6:55:20am

re: #147 BigPapa

This is a racial slur.

let us not even go down that rabbit hole.

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A Cranky One  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:06:09am

re: #147 BigPapa

Just stop. There is enough ugliness in the world right now. We don’t need it here. You’ve obviously pissed several lizards by using the term, stop trying to justify it.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:06:29am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:08:05am

re: #142 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

it will be interesting contrast as churches open here while the pope continues to pray to an empty vatican square

maybe the pope has better information because the connection is clearer
it is a local call for him after all

Aren’t Jesuits pro education and science?

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:12:16am

I hereby declare that there is entirely too much toilet content on this page.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:14:25am

re: #151 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Aren’t Jesuits pro education and science?

Whatever other issues I have with the Catholics, at least the Pope came out to say that he sees no inherent contradiction between Evolution and Creation.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:20:46am

re: #144 BigPapa

So, you’re saying that the noun is a slur, but that the verb directly derived from the noun is not an insult based on race…

Stop now, and step away from the shovel.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:21:51am

re: #154 Sufficient unto the day…

So, you’re saying that the noun is a slur, but that the verb directly derived from the noun is not an insult based on race…

Stop now, and step away from the shovel.

If you insist on being right, then go off and be right. But please leave it…

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:23:11am

Home Depot is restricting customer numbers the same way Walmart is.

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plansbandc  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:24:08am

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:28:53am

re: #157 plansbandc

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That should include the day the senate impeachment vote occurred so that people understand how much he did afterwards.

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mmmirele  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:30:07am

re: #74 Dread Pirate

Ain’t no way I squirting cold water up my ass. That’s going to need an instant warm water setup.

Then you want a Toto toilet. I am telling you, that is luxury. And it’s engineered within an inch of its life. If/when I redo my upstairs bathroom, I’m getting a Toto.

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mmmirele  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:36:27am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

When you bother to collect the data:

Early Data Shows African Americans Have Contracted and Died of Coronavirus at an Alarming Rate

propublica.org

Ugh. That reminds me, one of my coworkers, whose father was African-American, had her birthday yesterday. But she was depressed, because her older brother was being taken from the rehab where he’d been staying after surgery to the hospital. His symptoms: low oxygen saturation and difficulty breathing, as in the chief signs of coronavirus. As he was recovering from surgery, this is not a good sign. My brother remarked that it sounded like coronavirus was probably raging through the rehab facility. Ugh, ugh, ugh.

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Teukka  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:41:00am

Did this one get posted yet?

Let’s talk about PR in a time of crisis….

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:43:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:45:12am
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:45:50am

re: #120 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

We are all Saturday now.

Cultivate the art of sitting still.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:48:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:51:36am
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Teukka  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:52:53am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DAFUQ?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 7:53:02am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:01:28am

re: #156 Belafon

Home Depot is restricting customer numbers the same way Walmart is.

It’s as if they know something we don’t.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:03:13am

re: #152 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I hereby declare that there is entirely too much toilet content on this page.

Can’t afford a bidet, but I do have peanut butter and a dog….

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:03:37am

re: #161 Teukka

It has NOT been posted yet…well, obviously NOW it has been.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:09:26am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

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the late night firing of the inspector general is yet another demonstration of the limitless depths of cowardice this man and his admin possess

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:10:18am

Morning Lizardim from the freezing cold but beautiful wild north country. Today dawned a brisk 23 degrees F (-5 degrees C), but it should warm up with the abundant sunshine coming in through my back door. How go things among the lizardfolk on this glorious gorgeous Saturday?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:10:42am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Motherfucker you are the President, you could try acting like it for once instead of being a rancid piece of shit.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:12:50am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chaos Goblin says it’s the state’s fault for not having enough, despite him literally stealing orders from states. And then he whines when the world’s largest manufacturer of respirators tells him to fuck off and die.

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BigPapa  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:13:41am

Note the date: May, 2017

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:18:36am

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

More indication that Trump and those around him don’t understand how this will work. If he can’t help NY get it under control, sick people will not go to the hospital, nor will they get screened. Instead, they will interact with others and spread the disease out, eventually reaching further and further out from the epicenter, into those states that Trump thinks will be OK, and he won’t have enough stockpiled to help them.

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:19:40am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:20:32am

re: #174 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Motherfucker you are the President, you could try acting like it for once instead of being a rancid piece of shit.

It’s not within him to be able to do so.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:22:19am

re: #151 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Aren’t Jesuits pro education and science?

As part of my adventures with Italian, I ran across a copy of a textbook for third graders for $1.00, so I picked it up, being curious about what they teach their kids (or taught, it’s 20 years old). I’m not sure how it fits into the normal curriculum — in particular whether it would be part of regular coursework or bought by parents as a supplement — but the history section starts with the big bang and how to get your head about the depth of deep time. A bit later, it starts on the three million years in which hominids become humans.

Italy is 80% Catholic (more than half of those not “active,” of course), but that appears to be the background they all start from.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:25:17am

I’ll never not be confused by this.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:29:08am

re: #180 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

As part of my adventures with Italian, I ran across a copy of a textbook for third graders for $1.00, so I picked it up, being curious about what they teach their kids (or taught, it’s 20 years old). I’m not sure how it fits into the normal curriculum — in particular whether it would be part of regular coursework or bought by parents as a supplement — but the history section starts with the big bang and how to get your head about the depth of deep time. A bit later, it starts on the three million years in which hominids become humans.

Italy is 80% Catholic (more than half of those not “active,” of course), but that appears to be the background they all start from.

It’s not just cosmology. Daughter2’s 7th grade art textbook (Scuola Media Dante Alighieri) required understanding of the internal workings of a single-lens reflex.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:35:15am
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HypnoToad  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:37:32am

A month ago I would hear forty+ planes departing Ontario airport (CA) daily. Now, it’s two or three usually in the early morning and evenings. Helicopter traffic remains near normal levels. Far less local traffic noise as well, except for those with sirens—lots more of those.

I’ll expect the zombies once it goes completely quiet…

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:41:39am

re: #62 Dread Pirate

If you measure death rate as deaths against all reported cases then the rate is 5.3%. If you measure death rate as only the resolved cases, then the death rate is 20.5%

In certain first world countries that have been on top of this crisis from the beginning, the death against resolved cases is much lower than 20.5%:

Germany: 5%
South Korea: 2.7%

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BigPapa  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:46:53am

The offensive nic for Ms Owens is retired.

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A Cranky One  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:47:06am

re: #184 HypnoToad

A month ago I would hear forty+ planes departing Ontario airport (CA) daily. Now, it’s two or three usually in the early morning and evenings. Helicopter traffic remains near normal levels. Far less local traffic noise as well, except for those with sirens—lots more of those.

I’ll expect the zombies once it goes completely quiet…

The zombies will be looking for brains, to give our maladministration. Lord knows they don’t seem to have any.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:47:33am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:47:42am

re: #186 BigPapa

The offensive nic for Ms Owens is retired.

The hell did I miss?

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sagehen  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:48:24am

re: #189 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The hell did I miss?

you don’t want to know.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:49:57am

re: #182 Decatur Deb

It’s not just cosmology. Daughter2’s 7th grade art textbook (Scuola Media Dante Alighier) required understanding of the internal workings of a single-lens reflex.

The science section includes at-home experiments in elementary physics (“but remember that you should never use fire without the assistance of an adult person”) and information on biomes and adaptations to them, plus ideas on observing nature. For third graders.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:50:46am
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Belafon  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:51:37am

re: #192 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

He’s going to have to hoard a lot of medical supplies when things go really bad in conservative states.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:54:49am

re: #190 sagehen

you don’t want to know.

But here you go anyway. 👎🏽

re: #73 BigPapa

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stpaulbear  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:57:33am

re: #156 Belafon

Home Depot is restricting customer numbers the same way Walmart is.

My youngest sister is working at Lowe’s so I hope they follow suite. I talked with her a few days ago and she told me that people are still coming to the store because they wanted to look at stuff ‘for ideas’ with no intent to buy while they were there.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 4, 2020 • 8:57:39am

re: #186 BigPapa

The offensive nic for Ms Owens is retired.

Good. Now ask Charles to delete the original post. It’s still there.

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BigPapa  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:04:03am

re: #196 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

No. Use the tools he created to report and he’ll do with as he sees fit. I’m otherwise done with it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:05:56am

Minnesota’s new numbers: 2 new dead, up to 24; 76 (!) new cases out of 1200 tested, up to 865 and 25,400. While we’re still holding a flat line of increased cases, it’s disheartening that we broke the trend of 3 straight days of fewer reported positives.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:06:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:07:36am

re: #199 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m surprised this was announced before they had them in their possession.

It was done to make it harder for FEMA to snatch them up en route…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:08:58am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was done to make it harder for FEMA to snatch them up en route…

I don’t think it works that way. They can grab them wherever they desire until they’re in the possession of the receiver.

Unless there is a NY State Guard that’s willing to shoot the feds.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:10:25am

re: #197 BigPapa

No. Use the tools he created to report and he’ll do with as he sees fit. I’m otherwise done with it.

Fine. Hey Charles! Would you do us all a favor and nuke big papa’s #73

Also please nuke my #115 as I quoted him in full.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:10:25am

re: #201 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I don’t think it works that way. They can grab them wherever they desire until they’re in the possession of the receiver.

Unless there is a NY State Guard that’s willing to shoot the feds.

It will just be a lot harder for them to bury in the press. Ultimately there is nothing to stop them from doing so except bad publicity.

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BeachDem  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:12:12am

re: #178 jaunte

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White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has privately discussed bringing on Pentagon spokesperson Alyssa Farah or Trump campaign spokesperson Kayleigh McEnany as a new White House press secretary, two sources familiar with the talks tell Axios.

axios.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:18:09am

re: #203 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It will just be a lot harder for them to bury in the press. Ultimately there is nothing to stop them from doing so except bad publicity.

That doesn’t seem to be stopping them at all.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:24:02am

re: #205 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That doesn’t seem to be stopping them at all.

National Security needs and immanent domain are two excuses I can see them claiming.

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HypnoToad  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:25:01am

I really think his lordship wants people begging him for their lives.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:25:18am

re: #205 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That doesn’t seem to be stopping them at all.

Nope. Not at all.

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Jay C  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:31:59am

So an update on how the Big Apple is dealing with the pandemic: I’m waiting around in a hospital ER to be tested: My wife was admitted yesterday with an unrelated issue (and not being allowed to visit is a huge bummer), And I’ve basically had to claim possible exposure to get into the EM system. Everyone I have talked to here agrees with me that testing of this sort ought to be done outside the normal medical System, but that given the resources allotted to mass testing (I.e. very little), not much can be done
Mrs Jay tested negative, btw: but I feel vaguely guilty admitting this: I really feel like I am wasting their time.
But at least I have a few minutes to spend on LGF: always valuable

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:32:09am

re: #207 HypnoToad

I really think his lordship wants people begging him for their lives.

He wants to see his “enemies” grovel at his feet, yes, another symptom of a sick sociopath.

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:32:16am

re: #199 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I can’t see the tweet you’re replying to, but I think state officials should bring along the press any time they’re having to do back deal transactions like that one that handed a check over at a McDonald’s parking lot to buy supplies.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:32:17am

Kate Brown does a solid for NY.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:33:53am

re: #212 Kilroy was here

That is good to hear. :)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:37:10am

re: #211 Belafon

I can’t see the tweet you’re replying to, but I think state officials should bring along the press any time they’re having to do back deal transactions like that one that handed a check over at a McDonald’s parking lot to buy supplies.

From Cuomo…

We finally got some good news today.

The Chinese government helped facilitate a donation of 1,000 ventilators that will arrive in JFK today.

I thank the Chinese government, Jack Ma, Joe Tsai, the Jack Ma Foundation, the Tsai Foundation and Consul General Huang.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:38:12am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He wants to see his “enemies” grovel at his feet, yes, another symptom of a sick sociopath.

He wants constant praise from everyone. It’s not just his enemies that need to bow down to him, it’s his allies too. Except for his handlers Putin, Erdogan, and MBS, he demands the same obeisance from all who interact with him. Basically, only murderous autocrats get a pass from him. Everyone else must praise the naked emperor.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:39:00am

re: #184 HypnoToad

A month ago I would hear forty+ planes departing Ontario airport (CA) daily. Now, it’s two or three usually in the early morning and evenings. Helicopter traffic remains near normal levels. Far less local traffic noise as well, except for those with sirens—lots more of those.

I’ll expect the zombies once it goes completely quiet…

there’s talk of closing ft lauderdale int’l airport totally

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:39:05am

re: #205 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That doesn’t seem to be stopping them at all.

Yes, but Trump might not want to cross General Huang.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:39:51am

Trump is a murderous thug just like his heroes.
Imagine that.

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:42:10am

630 more dead in NYC alone. 1000 ventilators have arrived at JFK from China.

And Trump’s got the states playing Hunger Games to fight for the scraps since he’s releasing from FEMA stockpiles in drips and drabs all while slow rolling even that. Everything he does is about himself and whether he thinks he benefits in some perverse way.

All of his decisions have been disastrous. All of them. He hasn’t learned a goddamned thing and never will. His idiot advisers are no better and they’re continuing to feed him whatever Trump wants to hear, not what he must hear.

The death toll continues to climb, and will be approaching 9000 before the end of the day as we near 300,000 sickened.

And over here in NJ, a report finds that 1/3 of nursing homes in the state have covid19 cases, but families suggest that the number is even higher than that.

If you think NJ is bad, just wait til Florida’s retirement communities have this rip roaring rampage its way through. It’s going to be apocalyptic. But Trump and the GOP don’t care about any of that. Dead people don’t matter. They just want the machines (the stock market) turned back on as if millions of lives disrupted, hundreds of thousands snuffed out by Trump’s depravities and indifference and incompetence will not affect the economy.

Fuck Trump and the complicit GOP.

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:45:43am

Shaun F’King. It’s always a fucking scam or hit by Bernie’s bros against people trying to do the right thing for all Americans:

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retired cynic  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:47:49am

I am so excited. It was thrilling when JeffreyW posted a wonderful photo of a towhee. I have always loved them, and never had one here. Boom. This morning, I am waiting for the coffee water to boil, and look out, and there is one on my patio, large as life! So I yanked my phone out to get a photo, and he ducked behind a bush, scratching away until he flew away, so no photos to back it up. But he was here!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:48:06am
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Belafon  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:50:12am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s in the picture?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:50:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:53:32am

re: #223 Belafon

Joe Rogan saying he’ll vote for Trump because he thinks Biden can’t handle anything and we’d have to rely entirely on his Cabinet.

I got a serious case of whiplash reading that

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:54:43am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just want to know what the heck he is sniffing so that I can avoid it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:55:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:57:29am
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retired cynic  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:57:41am

The only official fired over the virus? A captain who tried to protect his crew. Max Boot, WaPo

“He made the right choice, and the Navy will back him up.” So wrote retired Adm. James Stavridis, a former carrier strike group commander and former supreme allied commander of NATO, about Capt. Brett Crozier, the skipper who had sent out an SOS about the spread of the coronavirus on his ship, the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt. Stavridis’s article appeared on Wednesday in Bloomberg Opinion. The next day, Crozier was relieved of duty by acting Navy secretary Thomas Modly.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:58:49am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I know people are numb to Trump’s hires being incompetent, but you are fucking supposed to rely on the cabinet. It is why the cabinet exists. Fucking dolt.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 4, 2020 • 9:59:48am

demon post.. :-) See my stats to know why.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:00:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:02:33am
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:02:58am

re: #181 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I really can’t understand the love affair that a lot of otherwise smart people have with George Conway. I think he’s part of a good-cop/bad-cop con job with his crooked-ass wife. He makes a lot of anti-Trump noises, but at the same time his wife is one of Trump’s most effective enablers, and I notice that Trump has never once tweeted out any cutesy nicknames for him. He’s the only vocal Trump critic who escapes the dumb tweets. Maybe it’s just me, but he sets off my bullshit detector.

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NetworkKed  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:03:39am

Ugh. Looked into the deeper IN numbers this morning. Yesterday 25% of the conducted tests came back positive. That is not a good sign.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:05:12am

We have a Winner:

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:05:33am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

Joe Rogan saying he’ll vote for Trump because he thinks Biden can’t handle anything and we’d have to rely entirely on his Cabinet.

I got a serious case of whiplash reading that

Joe Rogan is a dick. Always was, always will be. Never got his popularity. He rides trends and fads and talks shit and is a human lamprey.
“Celebrities” like him are part of the reason we are where we are.

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Alephnaught  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:06:22am

Mermaids Digifest is currently talking with US folx:

twitch.tv

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:06:46am
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:07:42am

re: #237 Mescalero09

On top of that his stand-up is un-funny. I don’t mean he’s offensive or whatever. I like a lot of comics that anyone would consider offensive (Doug Stanhope, Tony Jeselnik, Ron White, etc) but Rogan just isn’t very funny.

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:08:04am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

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jaunte  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:08:42am

re: #222 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who is Joe Rogan?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:10:24am
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BeachDem  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:11:01am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They always leave off the part where he talks about greeting “prime ministers, DICTATORS, kings and queens.” Yeah, he wouldn’t want to look silly in front of dictators.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:11:13am

re: #242 jaunte

Nominally a stand-up comic, known also for the reality show Fear Factor, and he’s big in the MMA/UFC community. His main claim to fame right now is that he has an enormously popular podcast. According to Wikipedia it got 190 million downloads in April 2019.

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:11:48am
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jaunte  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:12:06am

re: #245 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Ah, my Venn diagram never touches his.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:13:10am

re: #246 lawhawk

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:14:34am

re: #234 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I really can’t understand the love affair that a lot of otherwise smart people have with George Conway. I think he’s part of a good-cop/bad-cop con job with his crooked-ass wife. He makes a lot of anti-Trump noises, but at the same time his wife is one of Trump’s most effective enablers, and I notice that Trump has never once tweeted out any cutesy nicknames for him. He’s the only vocal Trump critic who escapes the dumb tweets. Maybe it’s just me, but he sets off my bullshit detector.

Trump did call him a “stone cold loser” and “husband from hell”. You’re right — it’s kabuki theater with KellyAnne and George. She’s a liar with no principles and her original candidate was another liar with no principles (Ted); there is no doubt that both Conways despise Trump, but they have a good racket going that guarantees income no matter how this plays out, unless we end up in Mad Max world, in which case we are all doomed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:15:42am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:17:05am

Not once, not just in this crisis, but in his entire first term so far (or maybe his entire life for that matter) has Trump EVER lead by example.

Not ONCE.

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:17:25am

re: #234 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I really can’t understand the love affair that a lot of otherwise smart people have with George Conway. I think he’s part of a good-cop/bad-cop con job with his crooked-ass wife. He makes a lot of anti-Trump noises, but at the same time his wife is one of Trump’s most effective enablers, and I notice that Trump has never once tweeted out any cutesy nicknames for him. He’s the only vocal Trump critic who escapes the dumb tweets. Maybe it’s just me, but he sets off my bullshit detector.

I wouldn’t cite him as any kind of authority, but I believe we have a few people here whose spouses are also either Trump supporters are don’t think he’s doing a bad job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:17:46am

because of course…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:18:14am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh sure, let’s just destroy one of the worlds major economic engines. No big deal right?

///

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:18:46am

Thank you Charles.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:19:09am

re: #235 NetworkKed

Ugh. Looked into the deeper IN numbers this morning. Yesterday 25% of the conducted tests came back positive. That is not a good sign.

I get the sentiment but aren’t we still only testing people who present symptoms?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:19:16am

re: #254 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh sure, let’s just destroy one of the worlds major economic engines. No big deal right?

///

Full of liberals, Jews and people of color….small price to pay to Make America Great Again

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:19:46am

re: #237 Mescalero09

Joe Rogan is a dick. Always was, always will be. Never got his popularity. He rides trends and fads and talks shit and is a human lamprey.
“Celebrities” like him are part of the reason we are where we are.

Dicks are quite popular these days.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:20:22am

re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg

Not once, not just in this crisis, but in his entire first term so far (or maybe his entire life for that matter) has Trump EVER lead by example.

Not ONCE.

But he is leading by example: the example of how you too can lie, bully, cheat on all your wives, be a racist, be a thief — and garner the support and admiration of tens of millions of Americans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:20:56am

re: #258 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Dicks are quite popular these days.

“Dicks, pussies and assholes” speech - Team America

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sagehen  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:21:40am

re: #199 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Should point out, NYC has a long-standing Chinatown with close ties to the ancestral homeland. China may very well believe they’re taking care of their own with this donation; that it’s more to NYC than to the US as a whole.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:23:59am

re: #252 Belafon

One’s spouse being a supporter is abstract. But if your spouse’s job is to go on TV and help protect and promote the lies, corruption, and incompetence that you spend your days denouncing as an existential threat to the country, then either your relationship is deeply bizarre or you’re just playing off both sides.

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NetworkKed  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:24:04am

Joe Rogan plays a cool guy on TV. I REALLY like his long-time work with the UFC (he’s the “color commentary” part of the play-by-play). I actually used to watch and enjoy Fear Factor.

…and he’s a thickheaded, borderline MRA, druggie stooge in all his other work. I avoid all of it at any cost. (I almost wrote “like the plague”, but that’s not a good phrase this year.)

I kinda have the same feelings about Penn Jillette - there is a considerable amount of stuff he does which is really admirable… and then there’s the guy who podcasts.

This is part of why I so dislike celebrity culture - I don’t want to get to know the real lives of people I like, I’ll probably hate them.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:27:10am

re: #258 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Dicks are quite popular these days.

It’s an industry.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:27:56am

re: #264 Mescalero09

It’s an industry.

It is. Adam Carolla is another one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:30:22am
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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:30:43am

re: #265 Barefoot Grin

It is. Adam Carolla is another one.

Along with “Dr. Pinsky”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:30:55am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:34:38am

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

They needed a professional pollster to tell them this?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:36:16am
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unproven innocence  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:36:29am

Not sure if US networks are covering this news story— large numbers of releases from US jails and prisons. Seems to be the only way to accomplish some social distancing.

US prisoners to be confined to cells for two weeks

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:36:48am

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

They needed a professional pollster to tell them this?

They only listen to polls(ters).

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Belafon  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:37:24am

re: #271 unproven innocence

Not sure if US networks are covering this news story— large numbers of releases from US jails and prisons. Seems to be the only way to accomplish some social distancing.

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That’s what some are using to justify the need to keep gun stores open.

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A Cranky One  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:37:28am

This got an actual LOL from me:

“Fox & Friends” has been trending on Twitter today, as it often does. Usually we don’t pay that much attention, because we figure Brian Kilmeade probably just somehow managed to accidentally get an opossum glued to his penis or something, and ain’t nobody got time for that.

wonkette.com

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:39:13am

re: #263 NetworkKed

Me seeing Jimmie Lee Vaughan (Stevies’ brother) with Rand Paul posters and stickers was almost too much for me. He’s a great old school bluesman, and beyond that I got nothing.
Sad.
Separating the artists work from the artist is daunting.
But Joe “Dick” Rogan is no artist.

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sagehen  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:42:26am

re: #262 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

One’s spouse being a supporter is abstract. But if your spouse’s job is to go on TV and help protect and promote the lies, corruption, and incompetence that you spend your days denouncing as an existential threat to the country, then either your relationship is deeply bizarre or you’re just playing off both sides.

Their relationship is deeply bizarre.

But they can’t divorce, because 1) spousal privilege if/when one of them is prosecuted, and 2) financial disclosures in a divorce case often become public.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:43:28am

In Trump’s Sacred Realm of Dream Reality (of which Fox announcers are the high priests and priestesses), hydroxychloroquine was going to be he Hail Mary play of plays to get him out of the fix: a cheap, easily-available miracle drug that was going to save millions of Americans and lead to DT being praised by all except the pouting, stunned intellectual elites who no longer had a failing economy and mounting death toll to “rejoice” in…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:44:23am

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

They needed a professional pollster to tell them this?

it’s the trump gang, they need polls for everything

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sagehen  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:46:00am

re: #267 Mescalero09

Along with “Dr. Pinsky”.

I used to like him a lot, back when he was on KROQ doing “Love Line” relationship advice.

And now I’ve said that, you know how old I am.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:46:10am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s the trump gang, they need polls for everything

polls that make him look favorable are “100% accurate”, the rest are “fake news”…

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:46:28am

re: #279 sagehen

You ain’t alone, trust me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:46:43am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:49:24am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is a beautiful thing. Those governors who step up and help those who need it.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:49:55am

California haters are kinda quiet these days…

time.com

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sagehen  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:50:18am

re: #271 unproven innocence

Not sure if US networks are covering this news story— large numbers of releases from US jails and prisons. Seems to be the only way to accomplish some social distancing.

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MSNBC has covered it; Trump and his acolytes are whining about it. Claiming that “very dangerous people” are being set loose (not true. It’s either people who were already within a few months of their parole date, people with short sentences for misdemeanors, and people in pre-trial detention for non-violent crimes).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:50:25am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

New York needs more ventilators, and we are answering their call for help.

We’ll be sending 140 ventilators to help NY because Oregon is in a better position right now. We must do all that we can to help those on the front lines of this response.

Trump fails to realize that this is all making him look like a pusillanimous jerk

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:52:42am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:52:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:53:13am
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:54:38am

re: #283 PhillyPretzel

That is a beautiful thing. Those governors who step up and help those who need it.

Like the gofundme for your chemotherapy, it shows the goodness of (some) people, but in a rational timeline, this would not be necessary.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:55:05am

I immediately got swarmed by Bernie stans and weird bots after Alyssa Milano retweeted this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:57:14am
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steve_davis  Apr 4, 2020 • 10:57:32am

re: #136 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Great thread. There are some brilliant sentences in here.

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It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. There was a re: #160 mmmirele

Ugh. That reminds me, one of my coworkers, whose father was African-American, had her birthday yesterday. But she was depressed, because her older brother was being taken from the rehab where he’d been staying after surgery to the hospital. His symptoms: low oxygen saturation and difficulty breathing, as in the chief signs of coronavirus. As he was recovering from surgery, this is not a good sign. My brother remarked that it sounded like coronavirus was probably raging through the rehab facility. Ugh, ugh, ugh.

African americans suffer from hypertension at a higher rate than the general pop. sadly not surprising.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 4, 2020 • 11:02:39am
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 4, 2020 • 11:04:08am

re: #284 Rightwingconspirator

That said, looking at our local statistics here …the number of COVID-19 patients in the hospital has doubled in the last 4 days. We went from 97 non-ICU cases to 199 between Monday and Thursday. (ICU cases have stayed stable at around 90ish, and we’ve seen about 2-4 deaths a day.)

The curve is starting to flatten and I’m grateful we acted as soon as we did but it’s still rough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 4, 2020 • 11:06:57am
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So Cal Greek Hippie  Apr 4, 2020 • 11:14:07am

re: #279 sagehen

I may be even older…😎

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HypnoToad  Apr 4, 2020 • 11:23:21am

THE MIGHTY MET!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 4, 2020 • 11:58:55am

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

They needed a professional pollster to tell them this?

Uhm, yes. This is not exactly a bright crowd.

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lawhawk  Apr 4, 2020 • 1:11:38pm

re: #284 Rightwingconspirator

A single person who works in Manhattan and lives in Westchester county could spread a pandemic far and wide before anyone even realizes that it’s deadly.

How do we know that’s the case? Because that’s exactly what happened. Take the train to work. Interact with people in close quarters on a subway or mass transit. Interact with people at work. Interact with people at religious services.

Along the way, hundreds or thousands were exposed, and each of them exposed others. Exponential growth.

And yet we’ve got Trumpists who think that covid19 replaces other types of causes of death and not that this is in addition to all the other kinds of death we normally see. Excess morbidity. It’s what happens when a pandemic sweeps through - more people die. The per capita death rate rises. And it will keep rising because we’re not flattening the curve fast enough.

Even in NYC we’re not doing good enough. It’s hard to self isolate. Imagine being in an apartment building where people have to use a common elevator. Or get mail in a common space. It’s impossible to avoid contact.

It’s also why aggressive testing is absolutely needed -tens of millions, and not a few tens of thousands a day - to be able to repeatedly test people due to potential multiple exposures. We want to contain this - and there’s no way to do it when we aren’t testing enough.


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