John Oliver Takes a Good Look at Whacked Out Far Right Propaganda Network OAN [VIDEO]

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One America News, or OAN, is a far-right news network being embraced by President Trump at his coronavirus press briefings. John Oliver takes a look at who they are, how they report, and why they could be a big problem during the pandemic.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:18:00am
We’ll see.”

— Charlotte Mayor Vi Lyles, quoted by the Charlotte Observer, when asked if the city can still host the Republican National Convention later this year.

anyone tell whatshisname who was tweeting all morning about the Dems?

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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:18:08am

When I first watched this video yesterday I kept thinking. “Graham Ledger… I know that name from somewhere.”

It bothered me enough to do some research on it and it turns out he was a news anchor here in San Diego on the CBS affiliate (KFMB Channel 8) for like 2 decades. I don’t remember of him being blatantly crazy or dumb back then.

This also led me to find out this OAN Network is based here. I’m disturbed.

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nicdanger  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:22:09am

re: #2 Jack Burton

When I first watched this video yesterday I kept thinking. “Graham Ledger… I know that name from somewhere.”

It bothered me enough to do some research on it and it turns out he was a news anchor here in San Diego on the CBS affiliate (KFMB Channel 8) for like 2 decades. I don’t remember of him being blatantly crazy or dumb back then.

This also led me to find out this OAN Network is based here. I’m disturbed.

Yeah,I remember him.I lived down there until 2012.He has really gone off the deep end.

4
The Pie Overlord!  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:23:39am

Wonkette has been keeping on top of the latest Q arglebargle so you don’t have to.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:24:46am

Thread..

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Citizen K  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:27:41am

re: #5 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Thread..

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It all comes down to Trump only surrounding himself with people who agree that ‘Trump is God, His Word is Law’.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:27:45am

Fucking fopdoodles.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:27:45am

re: #1 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

We’ll see.”

— Charlotte Mayor Vi Lyles, quoted by the Charlotte Observer, when asked if the city can still host the Republican National Convention later this year.

anyone tell whatshisname who was tweeting all morning about the Dems?

Who is going to be the first state legislator to suggest that their state legislature just appoint electors instead of having a presidential election? Not that it would stop the down ballot races… but you have to figure someone is going to suggest it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:27:46am

Modly was someone who had real experience and credentials for his post. It is sad to see how this administrations corrupts everything it touches; anyone who serves the unprincipled monster who leads it becomes unprincipled, vicious, and dishonest in turn. I don’t know how Fauci can survive his tenure here, given what he is subjected to on a daily basis. ETTD

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:29:29am

re: #2 Jack Burton

When I first watched this video yesterday I kept thinking. “Graham Ledger… I know that name from somewhere.”

It bothered me enough to do some research on it and it turns out he was a news anchor here in San Diego on the CBS affiliate (KFMB Channel 8) for like 2 decades. I don’t remember of him being blatantly crazy or dumb back then.

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This also led me to find out this OAN Network is based here. I’m disturbed.

I had never heard of him before. He’s almost like a parody. They all are. Do we know anything about the guy bankrolling OANN? Reckon he’s a San Diego guy too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:32:32am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:32:54am

Even when I’m wrong, I’m right. It really borders on parody or something out of a dystopian novel.

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Jay C  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:33:44am

re: #10 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I had never heard of him before. He’s almost like a parody. They all are. Do we know anything about the guy bankrolling OANN? Reckon he’s a San Diego guy too.

Yep. OAN is a part of Herring Networks; apparently a media vanity project of wealthy wingnut Robert Herring based in SD.

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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:35:00am

re: #10 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I had never heard of him before. He’s almost like a parody. They all are. Do we know anything about the guy bankrolling OANN? Reckon he’s a San Diego guy too.

According to Wikipedia, OANN’s parent company is Herring Networks. The CEO of Herring Networks is Robert Herring, who does in fact live in San Diego.

Then there’s this:

In March 2005, Herring offered $1 million to Terri Schiavo’s husband Michael Schiavo to release all guardianship rights to her parents so that they could keep her alive on a feeding tube.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:36:29am

re: #13 Jay C

Yep. OAN is a part of Herring Networks; apparently a media vanity project of wealthy wingnut Robert Herring based in SD.

Thanks. Had never heard of him before last night.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:37:01am

re: #14 Jack Burton

According to Wikipedia, OANN’s parent company is Herring Networks. The CEO of Herring Networks is Robert Herring, who does in fact live in San Diego.

Then there’s this:

In March 2005, Herring offered $1 million to Terri Schiavo’s husband Michael Schiavo to release all guardianship rights to her parents so that they could keep her alive on a feeding tube.

Yep I found that very interesting

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Dread Pirate  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:37:29am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:37:59am

Wisconsin Gov. acts to thwart GOP plan to have an election without voters tomorrow. We’ll see if the courts think it’s a good idea or not.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:38:34am

It’s the FNC model though. The women reporters are all eye candy. And Graham is the “straight talk” bullshit artist wingnuts love.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:39:14am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

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So he ruined a career to appease Trump.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:44:18am

re: #6 Citizen K

It all comes down to Trump only surrounding himself with people who agree that ‘Trump is God, His Word is Law’.

I don’t think so. He’s so easily played by those who are currently enabling him. They are only putting up with him to enrich themselves as much as possible while they can. IF, not when, IF he loses reelection, they will drop him faster that a radioactive turd and try to get as far away from him (and his family) as they can. Those who can’t get away, will turn on him in a heart beat to save their own corrupt asses.

Then again, they may actually be that stupid and as such, will burn with him when he inevitably fails.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:44:54am

re: #8 KGxvi

Who is going to be the first state legislator to suggest that their state legislature just appoint electors instead of having a presidential election? Not that it would stop the down ballot races… but you have to figure someone is going to suggest it.

that’s allowed and it could happen.

electoral-vote.com has gamed this out a bunch of different ways
(im sure others have too)

bottom line is there no viable way - by enlisting governors, or state legislators or in any other way that the numbers could work in his favor

their best advantage, if it is one: manipulate turnout

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:47:12am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

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so personal job security before country before integrity before the navy before…

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:47:48am

re: #20 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

So he ruined a career to save his own career appease Trump.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:50:39am

re: #22 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

that’s allowed and it could happen.

electoral-vote.com has gamed this out a bunch of different ways
(im sure others have too)

bottom line is there no viable way - by enlisting governors, or state legislators or in any other way that the numbers could work in his favor

their best advantage, if it is one: manipulate turnout

Exactly what the GOP in Wisconsin is trying to do by having an election during a pandemic.

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nicdanger  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:54:12am

re: #19 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s the FNC model though. The women reporters are all eye candy. And Graham is the “straight talk” bullshit artist wingnuts love.

I watched him for years on KFMB.He was a longtime weekend anchorman,his coverage of the Cedar fire in ‘03 and other later blazes got him lots of accolades.He seemed to be a hard news guy,I guess from under the surface his inner wingnut emerged.

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Teukka  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:54:13am

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:56:39am

re: #26 nicdanger

I watched him for years on KFMB.He was a longtime weekend anchorman,his coverage of the Cedar fire in ‘03 and other later blazes got him lots of accolades.He seemed to be a hard news guy,I guess from under the surface his inner wingnut emerged.

I bet there was big $$$ involved.

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nicdanger  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:57:47am

re: #28 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I bet there was big $$$ involved.

No doubt.

I will add that there are a metric shit-ton of rich conseravtives in SoCal,mainly San Diego and Orange counties…

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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:59:02am

I wonder if the Republicans wanting to prevent voting by mail will realize that
young voters will turn out in droves, some of whom may have covid19, and give covid19 to the old folks who do nothing but go out and vote.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 6, 2020 • 11:59:17am
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mmmirele  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:03:18pm

It would be a damned shame if people reposted Yashar’s video.

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Alephnaught  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:07:46pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:16:05pm

Here I am getting down and funky with X and Kyle of the Utah Outcasts…

DANGER WILL ROBINSON—-NOT SAFE FOR WORK…

COVID Stories - Catching Up

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:16:43pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:18:05pm

But of course.

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Alephnaught  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:19:57pm

Shit’s just got real.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:20:47pm

BBC now reporting Boris Johnson transferred to Intensive Care…

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:25:31pm

This is not good news for Boris, let alone the UK.

This is not a disease anyone wants to get. And we’ll probably learn before long that he’s getting ventilated because he’s having respiratory distress too.

Not good at all.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:26:48pm

re: #37 Alephnaught

Shit’s just got real.

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Not surprising. The only reason Boris was taken to the hospital was that his condition had significantly deteriorated. Let’s hope his fiancee doesn’t require this level of treatment — that her case is mild and she recovers quickly.

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Alephnaught  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:27:17pm

The reporting, or at least the party line, is that Boris has been taken to intensive care as a precaution, just in case he needs to go on ventilation. But his symptoms have worsened. Dominic Rabb is going to be deputising for him. (Which he pretty much has been doing for the past week and a half.)

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:28:08pm

re: #37 Alephnaught

Shit’s just got real.

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Some very very dark humor.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:29:31pm

I don’t know how to fell about this. Wasn’t Boris shaking hands when people told him not to? Yes, I feel bad for his family, just not him or maybe I should. It’s so hard, I’ve save my hate for trump and kushner.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:30:23pm

Well, Boris wanted Brexit and he’s getting it…not the way he expected…

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:30:38pm

Yesterday, it was “Boris is in the hospital ‘just in case.’”

Today, it’s “Boris is in the ICU ‘just in case.’”

One hopes tomorrow’s isn’t “Boris in the morgue ‘just in case.’”

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:30:54pm

re: #42 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Some very very dark humor.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:31:02pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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Larry “pretty much airtight” Kudlow is always wrong about everything.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:31:28pm

re: #41 Alephnaught

The reporting, or at least the party line, is that Boris has been taken to intensive care as a precaution, just in case he needs to go ventilation. But his symptoms have worsened. Dominic Rabb is going to be deputising for him. (Which he pretty much has been doing for the past week and a half.)

With resource limitations, you’re not taken to the ICU unless you’re in real trouble. This reeks of retconning the fact that he’s in bad shape.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:32:34pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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It’s always the same deal: Larry insists he can predict the future, then has nothing but excuses when his predictions turn out to be as accurate as Miss Cleo’s.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:32:41pm

re: #43 I Would Prefer Not To

I don’t know how to fell about this. Wasn’t Boris shaking hands when people told him not to? Yes, I feel bad for his family, just not him or maybe I should. It’s so hard, I’ve save my hate for trump and kushner.

And yet Trump is still well, which if it’s not evidence there is no God, maybe evidence there is a devil.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:32:59pm

re: #39 lawhawk

Just saw that story as breaking news here in Czech Republic.

Damn.

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Teukka  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:33:45pm

re: #32 mmmirele

It would be a damned shame if people reposted Yashar’s video.

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Yes. A damn shame:

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:34:39pm

re: #41 Alephnaught

The reporting, or at least the party line, is that Boris has been taken to intensive care as a precaution, just in case he needs to go on ventilation. But his symptoms have worsened. Dominic Rabb is going to be deputising for him. (Which he pretty much has been doing for the past week and a half.)

It almost certainly means he’s on high flow oxygen.

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Teukka  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:35:16pm

re: #42 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Some very very dark humor.

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Alephnaught  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:35:51pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

Yesterday, it was “Boris is in the hospital ‘just in case.’”

Today, it’s “Boris is in the ICU ‘just in case.’”

One hopes tomorrow’s isn’t “Boris in the morgue ‘just in case.’”

I’m expecting to wake up on my side of the world tomorrow morning, and hear that Boris is now on a ventilator. I hope it doesn’t happen, and I certainly wouldn’t wish it on anyone, even an Eton Tory like Boris. But I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the next stage of coverage.

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Teukka  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:36:27pm

Self-medicating with Cholorquine, from a medical professionals POV:

A Man Mistakenly Drank Aquarium Cleaner. This Is What Happened To His Heart.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:36:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:38:50pm

Yeah, they don’t put a person in intensive care just as a precaution, normally. Maybe for a prime minister, though.

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Teukka  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:39:25pm

File under “let’s not lose sight of the bigger picture”:

Doctor Highlights The Hidden Victims of COVID-19

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:39:28pm

Ok, now we know what really happened - Boris ran into a Dalek when the Doctor wasn’t there…

Sandford Police using a Dalek to order people to stay inside

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:39:29pm

re: #48 lawhawk

With resource limitations, you’re not taken to the ICU unless you’re in real trouble. This reeks of retconning the fact that he’s in bad shape.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:39:45pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:41:34pm

This is what The Washington Post has on Boris Johnson:
(it is not good)
washingtonpost.com

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Alephnaught  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:42:24pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

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That quote: “to deputize for him where necessary,”.

Where “necessary”?! He’s in flipping intensive care right at the moment, I don’t think he’s going to be doing any work.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:43:22pm

re: #64 Alephnaught

Except trying to stay alive.

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Teukka  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:43:28pm

re: #56 Teukka

Self-medicating with Cholorquine, from a medical professionals POV:

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And the podcast he referred to anchor.fm

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:43:29pm

re: #52 Teukka

Dr Drew is the Dr. Oz of addiction medicine.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:46:47pm

The avalanches weren’t necessarily historic in terms of their size—the carnage was noteworthy because there was a fresh crown on almost every path.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:47:43pm

You don’t put someone in an ICU without a very good reason because just being in an ICU is goddamned fucking stressful in and of itself. Mother fuckers constantly coming in and disturbing you, damn near impossible to get any real sleep. You don’t get there unless your shit is already rickety.

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Alephnaught  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:50:24pm

Oh my goodness, now UK politicians on Twitter are starting to do “thoughts and prayers”, and pay tributes to Boris, like he’s already died.

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mmmirele  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:50:26pm

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:51:24pm

Seemed to have time on my hands, so put the little Mexican pizza oven in play:

(Wife has time, too. She’s been labeling everything, like oil cruets, with her vinyl cutting program.)

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:53:54pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

We all have extra time these days. I spent a good part of my morning watching some old PBS travel shows like Rudy Maxa’s World.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:55:50pm

re: #69 goddamnedfrank

You don’t put someone in an ICU without a very good reason because just being in an ICU is goddamned fucking stressful in and of itself. Mother fuckers constantly coming in and disturbing you, damn near impossible to get any real sleep. You don’t get there unless your shit is already rickety af.

Maybe in the current climate, but overall that’s not necessarily so. People go to ICUs all the time that don’t need it, especially a surgical ICU, where they might be observed overnight after a long case to ensure that they don’t have a problem. Right now ICU beds are at a premium, but in better times ICUs are often used for someone who you want to be looked at more frequently than every 4-8 hours or so, just in case, because a standard nursing floor doesn’t have the staff to check more often than that. Most of them do fine.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:56:07pm

“Too soon” has never been in The Onion’s vocabulary.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:56:17pm

Tomorrow I break out the short trousers for my vineyard walk! Temps will be pushing 70 degrees.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:57:06pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

“Too soon” has never been in The Onion’s vocabulary.

NHS should present him a bill for 50 millions pounds per week for treatment.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:58:14pm

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Tomorrow I break out the short trousers for my vineyard walk! Temps will be pushing 70 degrees.

I hate you.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:58:26pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:59:27pm

So the new IHME model, run on the 5th, has lowered the predicted US deaths by 4 August. The error bars have been tightened a bit too, but still are pretty large:
covid19.healthdata.org

They explain in their release:

New IHME COVID-19 Forecasts Find Lower Hospital Bed Need, Epidemics starting to peak confirm social distancing works

Updated COVID-19 estimates find that need for hospital beds, ICU beds, and ventilators needed to deal with the COVID-19 epidemic are less than previously estimated.

The revised forecasts reflect “a massive infusion of new data,” said Dr. Christopher Murray, Director of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington’s School of Medicine. New data on COVID-19 health service use from multiple US states, including New York, Massachusetts, Georgia, Colorado, Pennsylvania, Florida, and California, has led to revisions down in estimated need to deal with the pandemic.

In addition, estimation of the likely peak of the epidemic in each state has been strengthened by epidemics peaking after social distancing in seven more locations internationally.

[…]

Murray noted that for patients who do not require ICU services, their length of stay has gone down, but for those who need ICU services, the length of stay has increased. Estimated demand for ICU beds and ventilators is also influenced by the longer length of stay for patients who survive. Lower numbers of required hospital beds may also reflect triage practices in over-stretched hospital systems, such as New York’s, where some moderately ill patients cannot be admitted because of demand for hospital beds.

[…]

Murray, however, cautioned that, “As we noted previously, the trajectory of the pandemic will change - and dramatically for the worse - if people ease up on social distancing or relax with other precautions. Our projections are strengthened by the new downturns in more regions. This is evidence that social distancing is crucial. Our forecasts assume that social distancing remains in place until the end of May.”

[…]

“Our estimates assume statewide social distancing measures are continuing in states where they have already been enacted, and for those states without such measures in place, it is assumed they will be will be in place within seven days,” Murray said. “If social distancing measures are relaxed or not implemented, the US will see greater death tolls, the death peak will be later, the burden on hospitals will be much greater, and the economic costs will continue to grow.”

[…]

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danarchy  Apr 6, 2020 • 12:59:31pm

re: #56 Teukka

Self-medicating with Cholorquine, from a medical professionals POV:

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Video

Good video, needs to lose the bad anime style hair though.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:00:29pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

Seemed to have time on my hands, so put the little Mexican pizza oven in play:

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(Wife has time, too. She’s been labeling everything, like oil cruets, with her vinyl cutting program.)

Darn that looks good. My 18yo is now in the kitchen making a matcha (dark green tea) cheese cake.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:01:35pm
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BigPapa  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:01:50pm

washingtonpost.com

Some Big Brains wrote an OpEd that will surprise none of us, and in light of Boris taking turn for the worse… I take no joy in any of this. But there is a hope I have: this pandemic will annihlate ignorance in many ways. The ‘body’ of evidence will grow and the ignorant will be painted into an intellectual corner, made all the more difficult by the speed at which the pandemic operates.

And some of these people will die.

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Teukka  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:02:19pm

re: #81 danarchy

Good video, needs to lose the bad anime style hair though.

I think it’s some unwritten rule for medical professionals on social media, look frazzled etc.

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jeffreyw  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:03:14pm

re: #47 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Larry “pretty much airtight” Kudlow is always wrong about everything.

What was he to do?
Tell the truth? hahaha

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:03:46pm

re: #80 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the new IHME model, run on the 5th, has lowered the predicted US deaths by 4 August. The error bars have been tightened a bit too, but still are pretty large:
covid19.healthdata.org

They explain in their release:

New IHME COVID-19 Forecasts Find Lower Hospital Bed Need, Epidemics starting to peak confirm social distancing works

From the article:

IHME forecasts 81,766 deaths, with a range between 49,431 and 136,401

Trump and GOP governors will attempt to take credit when the only reason the numbers will be that low is Democratic governors and local politicians took actions they wouldn’t.

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danarchy  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:05:01pm

re: #85 Teukka

I think it’s some unwritten rule for medical professionals on social media, look frazzled etc.

That’s not frazzled. Getting hair to stand up like that takes effort, and product.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:05:11pm

re: #82 Barefoot Grin

Darn that looks good. My 18yo is now in the kitchen making a matcha (dark green tea) cheese cake.

That’s mostly marinated artichoke, but Wife’s sun-dried tomatoes really made it.

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Teukka  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:05:59pm

re: #88 danarchy

That’s not frazzled. Getting hair to stand up like that takes effort, and product.

He doesn’t normally have that bad a hair day.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:06:30pm

re: #74 Renaissance_Man

Maybe in the current climate, but overall that’s not necessarily so. People go to ICUs all the time that don’t need it, especially a surgical ICU, where they might be observed overnight after a long case to ensure that they don’t have a problem. Right now ICU beds are at a premium, but in better times ICUs are often used for someone who you want to be looked at more frequently than every 4-8 hours or so, just in case, because a standard nursing floor doesn’t have the staff to check more often than that. Most of them do fine.

Yep. Back in 2007, after open heart surgery, I was placed in an ICU for maybe about 2 days. Total time in hospital was 10 days.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:06:45pm

re: #87 Belafon

From the article:

Trump and GOP governors will attempt to take credit when the only reason the numbers will be that low is Democratic governors and local politicians took actions they wouldn’t.

GOP Gov Ivey finally put AL on soft lockdown 2 days ago, and the model quickly responded by dropping our death projections a bunch.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:07:01pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:07:15pm

re: #87 Belafon

From the article:

Trump and GOP governors will attempt to take credit when the only reason the numbers will be that low is Democratic governors and local politicians took actions they wouldn’t.

For example, and I keep coming back to this because it’s so outrageous, the Wisconsin GOP is trying to kill a lot of people tomorrow, and only the Democratic Governor is standing in their way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:08:27pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:09:57pm

Very sad. Both guys that died were very experienced backcountry travelers. Their avalanche beacons weren’t turned on or had dead batteries.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:10:21pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Translation: They’re expecting him to only get worse, but they’re still holding out hope that he could beat the odds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:10:25pm
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Belafon  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:10:31pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of the things they talked about on the PBS show about the 1918 flu is that some people would show symptoms, go to the doctor, and die within 12 hours, before the doctor had time to even do anything. It would be better to be proactive if you reach a certain stage than to hope it won’t get worse.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:10:55pm

The IHME model predicts that Louisiana daily deaths will peak… today. So I guess we’ll know in a week or so how well that went.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:12:16pm
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Citizen K  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:12:19pm

Far as Boris Johnson goes, let’s not forget that he had initially promoted the bonkers ‘herd immunity’ defense toward the virus until he was thankfully convinced off that batshittery.

Somehow it’s fitting, but at the same time, I still would not wish this on him. This’ll be a shitty way to go, however karmic.

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Alephnaught  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:14:16pm

re: #42 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Some very very dark humor.

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I’ve seen a similar take.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:15:18pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If that can be proved, Kushner needs to be arrested the next time he crosses the Hudson.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:15:53pm

re: #104 Decatur Deb

If that can be proved, Kushner needs to be arrested the next time he crosses the Hudson.

I volunteer to take a swing at him.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:18:40pm

re: #105 I Would Prefer Not To

I volunteer to take a swing at him.

Just put him in the Epstein Suite, with better guards.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:18:55pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just think, Republicans in states with Democratic leaders, Trump doesn’t care about you at all. And for those of you Republicans in the other states, he doesn’t care about you either. You’re just more useful fodder.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:18:58pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Look at all the trouble in this banana republic.
Oh.
Wait.
NeverMind

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:19:26pm

re: #93 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Reading that article, it also reminded me of films from that era with just those kind of white working-class characters - films like Joe (the 1970 film with Peter Boyle) and of course, TV’s All In The Family, Archie Bunker virtually being a personification of such sentiments.

Those toxic sentiments have never left white working-class America.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:21:45pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is the least surprising surprise ever. What will be surprising is if they don’t just keep doing it out in the open now that he’s caught.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:21:47pm

Now hospitals are running low on medicine they need for treatment. vox.com

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:22:30pm

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

I reference to All in the Family Carroll O’Connor was interviewed a little while back and he said that he thought Archie was too bigoted and that no one would like him.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:22:31pm

re: #110 stpaulbear

That is the least surprising surprise ever. What will be surprising is if they don’t just keep doing it out in the open now that he’s caught.

Why not? No-one will hold them accountable.

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:22:57pm

re: #76 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Tomorrow I break out the short trousers for my vineyard walk! Temps will be pushing 70 degrees.

I’ll be doing that in about 50 minutes for Captain Cement Head’s daily walk. Pushing 70° in South Jersey.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:25:47pm

re: #113 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Why not? No-one will hold them accountable.

I think this one may be different. 200,000+ people are dying for this scam.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:26:25pm

re: #112 PhillyPretzel

I reference to All in the Family Carroll O’Conner was interviewed a little while back and he said that he thought Archie was too bigoted and that no one would like him.

What made the Archie Bunker character work was not only Carroll O’Conner’s superb portrayal, but that as the series progressed, we saw that Archie’s bigotry stemmed more from ignorance than outright malice. His character was capable of personal growth and change, albeit rather slow - and sometimes reluctant - change.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:26:58pm

re: #113 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Why not? No-one will hold them accountable.

Not in DC. In NYC you can get righteously dead for selling a couple cigarettes.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:28:11pm
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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:29:19pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Not in DC. In NYC you can get righteously dead for selling a couple cigarettes.

If Covid19 would just steal some cigarettes or soda pop. They would’ve killed it already.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:29:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:31:02pm

jeebus

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:31:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:32:00pm

hey, Teo!

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Alephnaught  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:33:10pm

re: #108 Omar Comin’

Look at all the trouble in this banana republic.
Oh.
Wait.
NeverMind

Boomtown Rats Banana Republic (HQ Audio)

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:33:12pm

re: #80 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the new IHME model, run on the 5th, has lowered the predicted US deaths by 4 August. The error bars have been tightened a bit too, but still are pretty large:
covid19.healthdata.org

They explain in their release:

New IHME COVID-19 Forecasts Find Lower Hospital Bed Need, Epidemics starting to peak confirm social distancing works

The analysis assumes that our shelter in place is held until the end of May. Texas doesn’t have a statewide mandate, and where I live the current shelter in place is until the first Monday of May. It will be interesting to see if the local government will lift it or extend it.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:33:33pm

Time to call it a day. Guess I’ll have to wait and see what fresh hell awaits the world tomorrow when I wake up.

Have a good one, Lizards. Stay healthy.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:35:10pm

re: #115 stpaulbear

I think this one may be different. 200,000+ people are dying for this scam.

The Wisconsin GOP is willing to kill people tomorrow to retain a state Supreme Court seat. People dying won’t move Republicans.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:35:19pm

I’m sorry, I’m having trouble feeling that bad for Boris Johnson. Yes, it sucks that he’s sick but he willingly and purposefully ignored the experts and continued behaviors that it was well known significantly increase one risks of getting the virus. It’s a classic “you reap what you sow” moment.

Boris has no one to blame for this but himself.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:35:50pm

re: #117 Decatur Deb

Not in DC. In NYC you can get righteously dead for selling a couple cigarettes.

Sure, if you’re black.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:36:02pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:38:25pm

The new Republican Anthem

Dead Kennedys - Kill The Poor

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:39:15pm

re: #131 Joe Bacon 🌹

The new Republican Anthem

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To be honost, that’s not really new.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:41:33pm

ANDY! - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody
Randy doing what he does best…

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:41:57pm

A portent of things to come, courtesy of our “business president”:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:43:12pm

OT: Al Kaline, Detroit baseball legend, dies, age 85, cause of death not immediately available.

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:43:57pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

Compared to most people, I’m unfortunately fairly familiar with QAnon and their various little terms and phrase (“breadcrumbs” and “bakers” are two particularly insipid ones), but WTF does it mean to “give someone HQ”?

I’m sure I’ll regret asking.

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TedStriker  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:45:34pm

re: #136 Mattand

Compared to most people, I’m unfortunately fairly familiar with QAnon and their various little terms and phrase (“breadcrumbs” and “bakers” are two particularly insipid ones), but WTF does it mean to “give someone HQ”?

I’m sure I’ll regret asking.

Given the context, I’d say hydroxychloroquine.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:46:16pm

re: #136 Mattand

Compared to most people, I’m unfortunately fairly familiar with QAnon and their various little terms and phrase (“breadcrumbs” and “bakers” are two particularly insipid ones), but WTF does it mean to “give someone HQ”?

I’m sure I’ll regret asking.

Probably refers to the anti-malarial drug? (Or to the Hooge Quartermass—hard to tell with Q-tips.)

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:47:09pm

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m sorry, I’m having trouble feeling that bad for Boris Johnson. Yes, it sucks that he’s sick but he willingly and purposefully ignored the experts and continued behaviors that it was well known significantly increase one risks of getting the virus. It’s a classic “you reap what you sow” moment.

Boris has no one to blame for this but himself.

I’m just shocked that this has not happened to Cheetolini yet. A guy that unhealthy surrounded by infected people and he somehow has dodged it (so far).

Also, total agreement with you on Boris Johnson. Particularly after claiming to have been glad-handing COVID patients a few weeks back (which I read was a straight-up lie).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:48:52pm

It’s like something out of a horror movie. And the GOP doesn’t care how many people suffer like this. Thread.

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:49:14pm

re: #137 TedStriker

Hydroxychloroquine

re: #138 Decatur Deb

Probably refers to the anti-malarial drug? (Or to the Hooge Quartermass—hard to tell with Q-tips.)

That makes sense. I kept reading it as “Headquarters”. Probably a little dense on my part, but it was not out of the realm of possibility that “giving someone headquarters” would be a phrase for these idiots.

LOL’d at “Q-tips”, BTW. Definitely stealing that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:51:39pm

re: #137 TedStriker

Given the context, I’d say hydroxychloroquine.

yes

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:53:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:57:05pm

Kanawa County is the location of Charleston, the state capital

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Alephnaught  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:58:07pm

re: #116 Dr Lizardo

What made the Archie Bunker character work was not only Carroll O’Conner’s superb portrayal, but that as the series progressed, we saw that Archie’s bigotry stemmed more from ignorance than outright malice. His character was capable of personal growth and change, albeit rather slow - and sometimes reluctant - change.

It also helps that the series was based a long running UK TV sitcom “Till Death Do Us Part”, starting in 1965, in which the equivalent of Archie Bunker was Alf Garnett, and the show’s writer Johnny Speight, a working class Socialist in the old 1960s UK sense, made sure that although the focus of the show was essentially taking the piss out of Alf Garnett’s prejudices, every effort was made to portray Garnett as a real working class man, as an actual person, not a fictional bigot cliche. Warren Mitchell’s portrayal of Garnett certainly helped in this, although, as in the US equivalent, a lot of people who were watching didn’t actually get that this show was taking the piss out of prejudice: they were laughing with Alf Garnett, not at him.

This really annoyed the writer, and he tried to chuck in various indications that this show is actually really quite left-wing. The epitome of this is when the show was revived in the late 1980s, and Alf Garnett was dependant on a care worker coming round to their house, and that care worker just happened to be a very camp gay person of colour. And still, people didn’t get it…

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2020 • 1:59:01pm

I’m expecting to see a lot of stories next year about companies being sued by the families of dead or injured employees who were ignored as they were hacking up blood because managers were basically told by corporate that staff were expendable but quarterly earnings were not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:00:22pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:00:38pm

re: #141 Mattand

That makes sense. I kept reading it as “Headquarters”. Probably a little dense on my part, but it was not out of the realm of possibility that “giving someone headquarters” would be a phrase for these idiots.

LOL’d at “Q-tips”, BTW. Definitely stealing that.

I think it’s been around a while.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:01:54pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

I bet that was a short call.

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steve_davis  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:01:58pm

re: #40 Hecuba’s daughter

Not surprising. The only reason Boris was taken to the hospital was that his condition had significantly deteriorated. Let’s hope his fiancee doesn’t require this level of treatment — that her case is mild and she recovers quickly.

I hope Boris recovers, but my guess is he has pretty substantial weight-related health issues.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:02:18pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:03:06pm

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

I bet that was a short call.

I hope Biden recorder it and then releases it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:03:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:04:17pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:04:48pm

Hydroxycholorquine or however the fuck you spell it is NOT a cure.

The only thing that will truly stop this virus is a vaccine.

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jeffreyw  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:05:09pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Just put him in the Epstein Suite, with better guards.

Same guards, they’ve proved themselves competent at their assigned tasks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:06:07pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:09:07pm

re: #155 Eclectic Cyborg

Hydroxycholorquine or however the fuck you spell it is NOT a cure.

The only thing that will truly stop this virus is a vaccine.

All the unbiased evidence so far seems to indicate is that it shows some promise for easing the symptoms of severe cases. But it is not a panacea as is being touted, and it sure as fuck is not a preventative as the MAGAts believe. And even those positive aspects are overshadowed by the potential for permanent neural damage, cardiovascular complications, or toxicity in patients already using Metformin.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:10:43pm

re: #155 Eclectic Cyborg

The only thing that will truly stop this virus is a vaccine.

And sad to say, there have been no vaccines for SARSv1 and MERS.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:11:30pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

It’s always the same deal: Larry insists he can predict the future, then has nothing but excuses when his predictions turn out to be as accurate as Miss Cleo’s.

everyone has an expert opinion why the market did what it did yesterday

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:12:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:13:52pm
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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:14:09pm

re: #139 Mattand

I’m just shocked that this has not happened to Cheetolini yet. A guy that unhealthy surrounded by infected people and he somehow has dodged it (so far).

Also, total agreement with you on Boris Johnson. Particularly after claiming to have been glad-handing COVID patients a few weeks back (which I read was a straight-up lie).

Satan takes care of his own?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:14:50pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:15:04pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is one explanation that works.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:15:17pm

CL’d the hell out of this one
lol
re: #337 jaunte

Palm Beach County’s ratio of deaths per infected, and deaths per hospitalized is dramatically higher than anywhere else in Florida
experience.arcgis.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:17:46pm

heh

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:18:13pm

re: #105 I Would Prefer Not To

I volunteer to take a swing at him.

mrs dm has already volunteered to be the official president face slapper
there’s room for jared in her portfolio

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:19:19pm

There’s a reason that it takes months or years for the FDA to approve a drug/procedure for usage, and it’s not because (as wingnuts currently believe) they want to hurt Donny’s approval polls. Untested drugs have the potential for all sorts of side-effects while totally failing to live up to the promises/expectations of the manufacturers. Procedures that haven’t been rigorously tested may maim or kill patients needlessly for no appreciable gain.

We don’t go chasing down blind alleys in the hopes that we’ll stumble across a cure-all, since most civilized nations decided ages ago that human experimentation for the sake of experimenting is not something they wish to be associated with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:21:23pm

*snerk*

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:21:28pm

Interesting thread.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:22:20pm

re: #137 TedStriker

Given the context, I’d say hydroxychloroquine.

they like it cause it’s got a “Q” in the name

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:24:26pm

LOL

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:24:34pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:24:37pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

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this is great

mr president, let me tell you how to do your job….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:25:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:26:18pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:26:33pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now that makes sense he is getting paid to promote a drug.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:26:48pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Follow the money. Always follow the money. Never stop following the money. Because you will never go wrong in assuming that every move this admin makes is predicated on a buck being made.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:26:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:27:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:27:49pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:28:25pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Part of the reason for that is that certain countries are either deliberating concealing their statistics (China, Russia) or don’t have the capacity to test (e.g. India)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:29:17pm

FYI: Kentucky state park cabins are VERY nice

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:30:02pm

re: #184 Hecuba’s daughter

Part of the reason for that is that certain countries are either deliberating concealing their statistics (China, Russia) or don’t have the capacity to test (e.g. India)

kinda sounds like what the trump gang are doing here

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:30:28pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

There’s a reason that it takes months or years for the FDA to approve a drug/procedure for usage, and it’s not because (as wingnuts currently believe) they want to hurt Donny’s approval polls. Untested drugs have the potential for all sorts of side-effects while totally failing to live up to the promises/expectations of the manufacturers. Procedures that haven’t been rigorously tested may maim or kill patients needlessly for no appreciable gain.

We don’t go chasing down blind alleys in the hopes that we’ll stumble across a cure-all, since most civilized nations decided ages ago that human experimentation for the sake of experimenting is not something they wish to be associated with.

theres 330m people in the US alone
all shapes, sizes, genders, ages, climates, with allergies, sensitivities etc
who already take medications and have other health conditions

NO drug works the same on everyone for those and hundreds of other reasons

from testing derives a measure of predictability

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:31:12pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

There’s a reason that it takes months or years for the FDA to approve a drug/procedure for usage, and it’s not because (as wingnuts currently believe) they want to hurt Donny’s approval polls.

This is reminiscent when HIV began getting press in the 1980’s: all sorts of drugs used for entirely different and some HIV-specific purposes (cyclosporine for transplant patients, HPA-23, a weird-ass antimony/tungsten-based pharmaceutical that failed spectacularly developed by the Nobel winning virologist Luc
Montagnier ) were tried until a failed cancer drug, ziduovine, actually showed effectiveness and got approved as Zithromax.

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steve_davis  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:33:14pm

re: #43 I Would Prefer Not To

I don’t know how to fell about this. Wasn’t Boris shaking hands when people told him not to? Yes, I feel bad for his family, just not him or maybe I should. It’s so hard, I’ve save my hate for trump and kushner.

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m sorry, I’m having trouble feeling that bad for Boris Johnson. Yes, it sucks that he’s sick but he willingly and purposefully ignored the experts and continued behaviors that it was well known significantly increase one risks of getting the virus. It’s a classic “you reap what you sow” moment.

Boris has no one to blame for this but himself.

If we all got what we deserved, we’d all be dead. I should have drowned in a quarry when I was a teenager, being stupid. Almost killed another kid jokingly putting him in a stranglehold. If he hadn’t fallen out of my arms, he never would have started breathing again. Just imagine that he’s in ICU, by himself, scared, having somebody tell him that he’s drowning in his own mucus, and that the ventilator hook-up may be the last conscious experience of his life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:33:30pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:34:05pm

re: #180 Targetpractice

Follow the money. Always follow the money. Never stop following the money. Because you will never go wrong in assuming that every move this admin makes is predicated on a buck being made.

Forget the myths that the media has created about the White House.
The truth is, these are not very bright guys…

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:34:45pm

Hell freezes over.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:35:15pm

they’re waiting for the meds to kick in

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:36:50pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:38:02pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

kinda sounds like what the trump gang are doing here

Trump gang doing it — but information is provided at the state level and the states are publishing what they have. Certainly red states may be suppressing information — but even red states have blue areas that will release the data and everyone uses the Internet to report their personal experiences. So this kind of information will leak out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:38:47pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:39:13pm

re: #192 DodgerFan1988

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Hell freezes over.

Cue Berners losing their fucking minds over the idea of Biden being in contact with Trump in any fashion.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:40:08pm

One of the most important cinematic scenes a 13 year old boy could witness.
Honor Blackman passed.
I lift a glass and remember being 13 in a movie theater and hearing these immortal words.
Rest my sweet, rest.

Pussy Galore Scene (James Bond - Goldfinger) FULL HD

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:40:48pm

re: #195 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump gang doing it — but information is provided at the state level and the states are publishing what they have. Certainly red states may be suppressing information — but even red states have blue areas that will release the data and everyone uses the Internet to report their personal experiences. So this kind of information will leak out.

it will leak out eventually, but none of the data being reported RIGHT NOW is any more reliable than what is coming out of the other countries initially mentioned.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:40:54pm

re: #192 DodgerFan1988

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Hell freezes over.

Trump won’t listen.

He’ll blame Biden for something.

He’ll brag that he told Biden how to do something.

I hope Biden got through Trump’s thick fucking skull, but I doubt it.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:41:39pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

There’s a reason that it takes months or years for the FDA to approve a drug/procedure for usage, and it’s not because (as wingnuts currently believe) they want to hurt Donny’s approval polls. Untested drugs have the potential for all sorts of side-effects while totally failing to live up to the promises/expectations of the manufacturers. Procedures that haven’t been rigorously tested may maim or kill patients needlessly for no appreciable gain.

We don’t go chasing down blind alleys in the hopes that we’ll stumble across a cure-all, since most civilized nations decided ages ago that human experimentation for the sake of experimenting is not something they wish to be associated with.

And then the drug manufactures promote them for off-label use and get people killed/injured and end up paying through the nose for it.

Testosterone Lawsuits

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:42:16pm

re: #184 Hecuba’s daughter

Part of the reason for that is that certain countries are either deliberating concealing their statistics (China, Russia) or don’t have the capacity to test (e.g. India)

Yeah, India and Russia in particular must have the way the fuck more people sick than they are letting on.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:43:27pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

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Which is why I posted up thread that I hope Biden has recorded it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:43:34pm

re: #201 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

And then the drug manufactures promote them for off-label use and get people killed/injured and end up paying through the nose for it.

Testosterone Lawsuits

Yeah, but they make enough profit on the drugs that paying through the nose in lawsuits is just “the cost of doing business”.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:43:50pm

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

India has extended their shutdowns until the end of the month, so it’s clear that they know that they aren’t getting ahead of it. They just might not have the tests available to identify cases quickly enough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:45:26pm

re: #195 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump gang doing it — but information is provided at the state level and the states are publishing what they have. Certainly red states may be suppressing information — but even red states have blue areas that will release the data and everyone uses the Internet to report their personal experiences. So this kind of information will leak out.

NYC can’t even say how many of those who have died at home due to Covid-19 because they aren’t testing the corpses because there are too many (10x+ more than normal)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:50:57pm

Gotta give the Biden campaign loads of credit here. I got a call from a volunteer. Made it clear that he wasn’t asking for a donation but how I was holding up. I really think given our circumstances Biden is the right person to take down Trump.

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TedStriker  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:51:04pm

re: #180 Targetpractice

Follow the money. Always follow the money. Never stop following the money. Because you will never go wrong in assuming that every move this admin makes is predicated on a buck being made.

And somehow going into his pockets.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:51:43pm

Shithead is doing a rally in the Brady Room.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:52:13pm

Hey, fuck your family, I have supporters.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:53:18pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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re modly’s speech

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:53:26pm
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Semper Fi  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:53:57pm

Just thought I’d sit a spell to catch-up with the lizard talk. TV is on and Trump is reading to the class.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:54:11pm

re: #197 Targetpractice

Cue Berners losing their fucking minds over the idea of Biden being in contact with Trump in any fashion.

hey bernie: what’s a phone and how does it work?

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:54:32pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have to watch paint dry. Thank you!

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:55:56pm

re: #203 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Which is why I posted up thread that I hope Biden has recorded it.

likely biden had people on the call even if trump didnt/wouldnt

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:57:49pm

re: #215 Ace Rothstein

I have to watch paint dry. Thank you!

i have to watch some cement set

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:57:55pm

re: #197 Targetpractice

Cue Berners losing their fucking minds over the idea of Biden being in contact with Trump in any fashion.

They already are…just as I expected…

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:58:23pm

re: #213 Semper Fi

Just thought I’d sit a spell to catch-up with the lizard talk. TV is on and Trump is reading to the class.

Kill your TV

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:59:22pm

what we were talking about here this AM:

Washington Post: “As Democrats escalate their general-election campaign against the president, they have targeted his failure to act urgently to deflect the damage the coronavirus is wreaking over lives and the economy, as he brushed aside intelligence briefings and warnings from health officials while holding fundraisers and gathering thousands of his followers at rallies.”

“Their greatest ammunition? Trump’s own comments, aired daily in the marathon coronavirus briefings where he commands center stage.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 2:59:49pm

There are two reasons why Trump is pushing this quackery about hydrochlorawhateverthefuckitscalled:

1. He owns stock in the company that makes it.
2. Dr. Fauci is a pain in his ass, and so the more Fauci disagrees with Trump, it gives Trump a reason to kick his ass out by Friday.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:00:17pm

Some good news, courtesy of John Krasinski and Emily Blunt:

Zoom Surprise: Some Good News with John Krasinski Ep. 2

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:00:37pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah, but they make enough profit on the drugs that paying through the nose in lawsuits is just “the cost of doing business”.

Sadly enough.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:02:41pm

re: #222 lawhawk

He’s alright for a Sox/Pats fan. Seriously though I love SGN. John is great at it. Emily is wonderful too.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:03:06pm

Everyone in my twitter feed:
FFS QUIT LIVE-COVERING TRUMP’S BRIEFINGS EVERY DAY OMG

Also everyone in my twitter feed:
live-tweets the briefing every day

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:06:14pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:07:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:12:57pm
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:13:04pm

re: #227 Dread Pirate

Politico has a story saying that this asshole did not clear his remarks with Trump or anyone in the White House. That means that everything asshole said was written by Trump with a threat that if asshole didn’t say it, he’d find a horse head in his bed like Jack Woltz did in “The Godfather.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:13:32pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:14:28pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I doubt that that conversation had the warm tinkly Mister Rogers music in the background…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:15:39pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m almost surprised he didn’t say Biden cried and said thank you, sir.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:17:18pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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he probably doesnt remember any of the call so he cant be specific - as usual.
he only ever talks in this assholic vague general way

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:17:37pm

re: #232 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m almost surprised he didn’t say Biden cried and said thank you, sir.

we’re only 15 minutes in….

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:18:30pm

re: #234 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

we’re only 15 minutes in….

True.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:20:49pm

re: #180 Targetpractice

Follow the money. Always follow the money. Never stop following the money. Because you will never go wrong in assuming that every move this admin makes is predicated on a buck being made.

Add to the known info (from 3/23:

U.S. regulators have lifted import restrictions on an Indian pharmaceutical company in an effort to increase supplies of a malaria drug touted by President Donald Trump as a potential coronavirus treatment.

Mumbai-based Ipca Laboratories Ltd. said in a March 21 securities filing that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration “has made exception to the import alert” for three of its facilities, allowing it to supply tablets as well as raw materials for making chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulphate.

Ipca’s shares jumped to touch a record high on March 20 after Trump endorsed the drug the day before

The factories where Ipca makes the medications have been under an import alert from the U.S. regulator since 2015, after inspectors discovered multiple violations of its manufacturing guidelines, including “systemic data manipulation” in tests meant to ensure the drugs’ efficacy and safety.

At one facility in central India, now permitted to ship the main ingredient of the two chloroquine drugs to the U.S., inspectors found raw data and test results were being manipulated so drugs could pass quality-control checks. At another facility where finished tablets are made, inspectors found data meant to decide quality-control tests mysteriously deleted.

The FDA inspected the third Ipca factory again in August and cited “a cascade of failure” regarding quality measures drugmakers are required to take to ensure the safety of their products.

bloomberg.com

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:24:40pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:25:41pm

Another one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:28:23pm

re: #237 gocart mozart

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it’s their choice…but not like abortion…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:28:31pm

re: #238 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Another one.

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Still a ways to go of course, but encouraging nonetheless.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:29:02pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:29:47pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

So why doesn’t one of the reporters do their job and fucking CALL HIM ON THIS BULLSHIT?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:29:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:30:26pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:31:13pm

I’m calling it: By next week, Trump won’t allow anyone in the room except Fox and OANN.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:31:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:32:18pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:32:34pm

Jesus Fucking Christ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:33:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:34:38pm

sad trombones…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:35:10pm

re: #248 teleskiguy

Jesus Fucking Christ.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:35:22pm

Turns-out the Republicans on the Wisconsin Supreme Court are just as psychopathic as the Republican legislators.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:36:09pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sad trombones…

General welfare. Maybe you should have read Khzir Khan’s Constitution he offered you instead of a slobber piece by one of your ass kissers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:36:27pm
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Mattand  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:36:41pm

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

So why doesn’t one of the reporters do their job and fucking CALL HIM ON THIS BULLSHIT?

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m calling it: By next week, Trump won’t allow anyone in the room except Fox and OANN.

LOL, I think you may have answered your own question.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:36:48pm

re: #252 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Turns-out the Republicans on the Wisconsin Supreme Court are just as psychopathic as the Republican legislators.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:37:10pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh fuck off Ronna.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:37:42pm
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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:38:42pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sad trombones…

Pod Save America has Senator Warren on today. They posted a clip on instagram, wherein she says that this election is basically about the role of government, moreso than just about any election in living memory (my phrasing, not hers). It is absolutely true, too. The nihilistic Trumpian version of government (basic governing philosophy: fuck you, I got mine) vs really, anything else.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:40:28pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t know if it is still the case, but I know back in the day, if you moved from one county to the another in California, you could be on the voter rolls in both counties for a couple of cycles. Given how sprawling our metropolises are out here, it’s not very difficult to do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:40:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:41:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:41:56pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:46:18pm

Stupid asshole.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:48:42pm

re: #264 teleskiguy

Stupid asshole.

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I really would want to be that says “Mr. President you’re a fucking asshole who adds nothing to humanity.”

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:49:02pm

re: #158 Targetpractice

All the unbiased evidence so far seems to indicate is that it shows some promise for easing the symptoms of severe cases. But it is not a panacea as is being touted, and it sure as fuck is not a preventative as the MAGAts believe. And even those positive aspects are overshadowed by the potential for permanent neural damage, cardiovascular complications, or toxicity in patients already using Metformin.

You forgot blindness, another common side effect.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:49:53pm

re: #252 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Turns-out the Republicans on the Wisconsin Supreme Court are just as psychopathic as the Republican legislators.

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I was concerned voting March 17 in the Illinois primary. Republicans at all levels are monsters — it would be wonderful if the GOP and its Trump variation go the way of the Whig party, but my fear is that voter disenfranchisement and suppression will reach a peak with the November coronavirus election. Our best hope for the future is that Trump and Pence succumb to the plague — and soon.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:49:58pm

re: #265 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

You are absolutely right.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:50:04pm

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

Interesting tidbit re: Goldfinger

Pussy Galore (Honor Blackman) introduces herself to James Bond (Sir Sean Connery), who replies “I must be dreaming.” The original script had Bond replying “I know you are, but what’s your name?” This was deemed too suggestive

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:50:31pm

re: #160 Eric The Fruit Bat

And sad to say, there have been no vaccines for SARSv1 and MERS.

When the outbreaks dissipated so quickly, they stopped looking.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:51:04pm

re: #270 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

When the outbreaks dissipated so quickly, they stopped looking.

This. The money for research wasn’t there anymore.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:51:34pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

McDaniel uses the word “California” as a dog-whistle for the Trumpers. The Trumpers have often mis-represented California’s change in voter rolls, because Trump has done so:

California “admitted” there were “a million” illegal votes in the 2016 presidential election.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:52:06pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:52:40pm

re: #160 Eric The Fruit Bat

And sad to say, there have been no vaccines for SARSv1 and MERS.

There are MERS vaccines in trials, starting last year, I thought.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:55:20pm

They promised us rain… it’s taking forever to get here. A few sprinkles after midnight… then nothing.

Radar keeps showing a band of rain working itself southward, but it sure is taking its time, over 24 hours to go from Pt. Mugu to northern San Diego county.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:55:21pm

I am going to be so happy when that asshole isn’t President anymore…even if I am still stuck at home when it happens.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:55:37pm

re: #273 goddamnedfrank

“we’re not going to be showing weakness to anybody.”

Except every time he appears in public.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:55:40pm

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

You are absolutely right.

He infuriates me in everything he does.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:56:18pm

I slipped on an rock on a pool waterfall last Monday and got a nasty deep cut from it on my left leg, as well as a good skid mark up my thigh. It didn’t bleed for about an hour and then I went to a local clinic when it did. I got ten stitches, and was told the lack of bleeding at first was because my body was in shock. Two or three days after I’m in the shower, I noticed a purple like bruise near the base of my foot on the same leg but there’s no pain at all. Until this morning, my leg has been really sore and irritated from it with some swelling at the cut. Is it possible this foot “bruise” is from some lack of circulation from the accident? I get the stitches removed on Wednesday.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:56:21pm

I’m guessing 8-9ish years apart. Bear #2 who I have now on top. Chewie who I lost in 2013.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:57:59pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:58:30pm

re: #279 Ace Rothstein

If it were me, I’d call my doctor, today. Not a doctor and won’t play one on the internet… but a pooling of blood may have happened around your ankle.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:58:47pm

re: #189 steve_davis

If we all got what we deserved, we’d all be dead. I should have drowned in a quarry when I was a teenager, being stupid. Almost killed another kid jokingly putting him in a stranglehold. If he hadn’t fallen out of my arms, he never would have started breathing again. Just imagine that he’s in ICU, by himself, scared, having somebody tell him that he’s drowning in his own mucus, and that the ventilator hook-up may be the last conscious experience of his life.

And he has a young family. the difference between BJ and tump is that BJ may actually learn from his experience. trump is incapable of learning. the other difference is that boris is getting about the same healthcare as anyone in the UK. I hope he pulls through.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2020 • 3:59:41pm

re: #279 Ace Rothstein

I slipped on an rock on a pool waterfall last Monday and got a nasty deep cut from it on my left leg, as well as a good skid mark up my thigh. It didn’t bleed for about an hour and then I went to a local clinic when it did. I got ten stitches, and was told the lack of bleeding at first was because my body was in shock. Two or three days after I’m in the shower, I noticed a purple like bruise near the base of my foot on the same leg but there’s no pain at all. Until this morning, my leg has been really sore and irritated from it with some swelling at the cut. Is it possible this foot “bruise” is from some lack of circulation from the accident? I get the stitches removed on Wednesday.

Did you roll your ankle at all? I’ve gotten that kind of bruise after bad ankle sprains where the foot folded all the way inside.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:00:22pm

re: #284 goddamnedfrank

No, not that I can think of.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:00:28pm

Whut

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:00:49pm

re: #286 jaunte

What the actual everloving fuck?

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austin_blue  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:01:02pm

re: #14 Jack Burton

According to Wikipedia, OANN’s parent company is Herring Networks. The CEO of Herring Networks is Robert Herring, who does in fact live in San Diego.

Then there’s this:

In March 2005, Herring offered $1 million to Terri Schiavo’s husband Michael Schiavo to release all guardianship rights to her parents so that they could keep her alive on a feeding tube.

SHE HAD NO FOREBRAIN.

She was as dead as a stump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:01:17pm

re: #252 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Turns-out the Republicans on the Wisconsin Supreme Court are just as psychopathic as the Republican legislators.

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The Republicans are doing every fucking thing to boost Bernie.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:02:24pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:03:47pm

re: #283 I Would Prefer Not To

And he has a young family. the difference between BJ and tump is that BJ may actually learn from his experience. trump is incapable of learning. the other difference is that boris is getting about the same healthcare as anyone in the UK. I hope he pulls through.

I have way less faith in BJ than you. If he comes through he’ll double down on the assholeness because he made it through and you should be able to, too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:04:55pm

re: #291 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I have way less faith in BJ than you. If he comes through he’ll double down on the assholeness because he made it through and you should be able to, too.

It’s one of those times I feel bad, because I very rarely wish death on people (I can’t say never, there’s one person in recent memory) but honestly, it would result in soooooo much improvement in that political situation.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:05:36pm

re: #290 lawhawk

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My CVS has drive through.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:05:49pm

re: #291 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This is exactly it.

“See. It’s no big deal!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:06:24pm

re: #284 goddamnedfrank

Did you roll your ankle at all? I’ve gotten that kind of bruise after bad ankle sprains where the foot folded all the way inside.

I’m also thinking a possible hairline facture in one of the foot bones (been retired as an EMT for quite a while, though).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:06:41pm

re: #292 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s one of those times I feel bad, because I very rarely wish death on people (I can’t say never, there’s one person in recent memory) but honestly, it would result in soooooo much improvement in that political situation.

I don’t wish death on him, but I’m going to have a hard time feeling bad.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:06:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:09:56pm

re: #279 Ace Rothstein

I slipped on an rock on a pool waterfall last Monday and got a nasty deep cut from it on my left leg, as well as a good skid mark up my thigh. It didn’t bleed for about an hour and then I went to a local clinic when it did. I got ten stitches, and was told the lack of bleeding at first was because my body was in shock. Two or three days after I’m in the shower, I noticed a purple like bruise near the base of my foot on the same leg but there’s no pain at all.. Until this morning, my leg has been really sore and irritated from it with a lot of swelling. Is it possible this foot “bruise” is from some lack of circulation from the accident? I get the stitches removed on Wednesday.

the swelling a week later is a real concern.

Call your doc and in the meantime, keep it elevated.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:11:16pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmmm, interesting, even with no pain whatsoever in my foot? I did have hairline fractures in four ribs from coughing when I had pneumonia, and never felt that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:11:39pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:12:13pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:12:48pm

Partygoer at Trump National Golf Club dies of coronavirus

A Rancho Palos Verdes resident has died from the coronavirus after contracting it at a birthday party on March 8 at Trump National Golf Club, the city has confirmed.

Robert “Bert” Argo Jr., 75, was an active member of the Rancho Palos Verdes community, according to a recent statement.

“The city extends its deepest condolences to the family,” the statement said. “We ask for their privacy to be respected during this difficult time.”

Argo attended a birthday party for former Mayor Susan Brooks at the Trump golf club, where roughly 16 to 20 others also came down with COVID-19, the respiratory disease caused by the virus. Brooks was among those who tested positive and she was briefly hospitalized.

[…]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:14:51pm
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:14:59pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

I need to be clear about something. The swelling in my leg was for the first two or three days, but the swelling has gone down considerably. As a matter of fact, there is no swelling now at all. And the soreness when I walk, etc, is almost gone. Today is the first day I’ve felt almost 100%.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:16:16pm

re: #304 Ace Rothstein

I need to be clear about something. The swelling in my leg was for the first two or three days, but the swelling has gone down considerably. As a matter of fact, there is no swelling now at all. And the soreness when I walk, etc, is almost gone. Today is the first day I’ve felt almost 100%.

ah! I misinterpreted what you said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:17:10pm

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

ah! I misinterpreted what you said.

so, it’s just the bruise that’s new this morning?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:18:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:18:19pm
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:19:04pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

No I noticed it maybe Friday (??). I’ll keep my eye on it this week and have the doctor(s) look at it Wednesday when/if they take the stitches out.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:19:11pm

Oh, yeah, while I’m at it: Minnesota had 51 new cases out of 1400 tested, up to 986 and 28,100; 1 new death to make an even 30. Our hospitalization and ICU utilization is remaining fairly low, and as long as we don’t have a rebound from the inevitable weekend goings-on (grocery shopping and outdoor activities), then we’re still on track.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:19:32pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

Welcome to the party, pal!

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:20:42pm

re: #289 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Republicans are doing every fucking thing to boost Bernie.

It isn’t going to affect the outcome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:25:32pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:27:40pm

Conservatives hate democracy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:27:50pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:28:13pm

We at one point or another have said it at this weblog: the only thing Donald Trump is concerned with is his so called image and how much money he is making playing at being president.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:29:24pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

Crying out for subtitles.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:29:39pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:30:55pm

re: #279 Ace Rothstein

I slipped on an rock on a pool waterfall last Monday and got a nasty deep cut from it on my left leg, as well as a good skid mark up my thigh. It didn’t bleed for about an hour and then I went to a local clinic when it did. I got ten stitches, and was told the lack of bleeding at first was because my body was in shock. Two or three days after I’m in the shower, I noticed a purple like bruise near the base of my foot on the same leg but there’s no pain at all. Until this morning, my leg has been really sore and irritated from it with some swelling at the cut. Is it possible this foot “bruise” is from some lack of circulation from the accident? I get the stitches removed on Wednesday.

I broke my right foot three weeks ago while walking the dog. She lurched for something and pulled me off the pavement and I not only broke the 5th metatarsal, but twisted the heck out of my ankle. The next day the pain was too intense so I went to Convenient Care. They put a temporary splint on and the next day I went to the orthopedist from whom I got the boot. It was only on the second to third day, with the boot, that my toes turned purple. That was gone in about three days with icing and rest. Today is the first day that I can walk with only a small amount of pain. Tomorrow and beyond! Hope you heal soon.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:31:11pm

re: #309 Ace Rothstein

No I noticed it maybe Friday (??). I’ll keep my eye on it this week and have the doctor(s) look at it Wednesday when/if they take the stitches out.

If you’re taking daily aspirin you might back off for a bit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:31:11pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:31:16pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:32:12pm

Biden should blow the dust off of the 14th Amendment and punish Wisconsin Republicans by stripping a GOP congressman of his seat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:33:29pm

re: #319 Barefoot Grin

I broke my right foot three weeks ago while walking the dog. She lurched for something and pulled me off the pavement and I not only broke the 5th metatarsal, but twisted the heck out of my ankle. The next day the pain was too intense so I went to Convenient Care. They put a temporary splint on and the next day I went to the orthopedist from whom I got the boot. It was only on the second to third day, with the boot, that my toes turned purple. That was gone in about three days with icing and rest. Today is the first day that I can walk with only a small amount of pain. Tomorrow and beyond! Hope you heal soon.

ah! Possible anecdotal support for my hairline fracture suggestion
(I’m old…I’ll take what successes in distance flimsy diagnoses I can get…)

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:33:52pm

re: #320 goddamnedfrank

If you’re taking daily aspirin you might back off for a bit.

Also, slow on the ibuprofen if you broke something, according to my doctor. Tends to inhibit bone growth.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:34:03pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:34:06pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:36:50pm

My local NPR station isn’t covering DT’s press rallies anymore, but Governor Newsom gives a report every day at noon, and they are all that you could want from a chief executive. He even takes questions and answers them!

Recommended.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:38:07pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

ah! Possible anecdotal support for my hairline fracture suggestion
(I’m old…I’ll take what successes in distance flimsy diagnoses I can get…)

Good call. I learned a lot from the x-rays. I was about 2 or 3 millimeters from a small part of the outside foot that, if it breaks, requires surgery to put in pins. And yes, I rolled my ankle something fierce.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:38:44pm

re: #327 Dread Pirate

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Somehow, I feel like they’ll end up ok.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:38:45pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:39:09pm

Grocery store was busier this week than I’ve seen it in a while. Roughly half the folks in there, if not more, wearing masks. Stock levels continue to recover - the frozen veggies were practically back to normal, as was the bottled water. (I picked up a bottle of distilled water for some of the pickling I’ve been playing with.) Only things really still missing were flour and rice and beans - mostly the beans, there are starting to be smatterings of rice. And we were having supply issues when it came to dried beans BEFORE this so… Reusable bags currently not allowed, sigh, so I guess I will have a growing collection of paper bags for the cat to chew on.

New masks from my mother arrived, so I was able to go while looking stylish.

I am super tired of a lot of things but most especially the death cult that’s currently “running” the country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:41:22pm

re: #329 Barefoot Grin

Good call. I learned a lot from the x-rays. I was about 2 or 3 millimeters from a small part of the outside foot that, if it breaks, requires surgery to put in pins. And yes, I rolled my ankle something fierce.

MrBWS fell from a barn roof truss about 20 years ago. Broke a bunch of crunchy foot parts that required at least three screws.
It was not fun, but the bruises and swelling were spectacular.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:41:22pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:41:58pm

Outside of TP, our local store is mostly recovered and stocked. Except, oddly, for firm tofu. You can get all the silken you want, but I got lucky a few days ago to find two trays of firm. Today—nada. We use firm for lots of stuff.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:43:27pm

re: #332 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Grocery store was busier this week than I’ve seen it in a while. Roughly half the folks in there, if not more, wearing masks. Stock levels continue to recover - the frozen veggies were practically back to normal, as was the bottled water. (I picked up a bottle of distilled water for some of the pickling I’ve been playing with.) Only things really still missing were flour and rice and beans - mostly the beans, there are starting to be smatterings of rice. And we were having supply issues when it came to dried beans BEFORE this so… Reusable bags currently not allowed, sigh, so I guess I will have a growing collection of paper bags for the cat to chew on.

New masks from my mother arrived, so I was able to go while looking stylish.

I am super tired of a lot of things but most especially the death cult that’s currently “running” the country.

Recycled bags aren’t allowed in my grocery store either, but that’s because the clerks aren’t supposed to touch anything a customer brings in (a Good Thing). So I put my stuff back in my cart after it’s rung up, wheel the cart into the parking lot, and bag it myself there.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:43:35pm

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS fell from a barn roof truss about 20 years ago. Broke a bunch of crunchy foot parts that required at three screws.
It was not fun, but the bruises and swelling were spectacular.

Ouch! He’s lucky to be alive. The hands and feet in their structure are really something to behold. But goddamn it hurts when you injure that delicate balance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:44:48pm

re: #337 Barefoot Grin

Ouch! He’s lucky to be alive. The hands and feet in their structure are really something to behold. But goddamn it hurts when you injure that delicate balance.

he landed on his feet.

lucky that only one foot was busted up

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:45:02pm

re: #336 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Recycled bags aren’t allowed in my grocery store either, but that’s because the clerks aren’t supposed to touch anything a customer brings in (a Good Thing). So I put my stuff back in my cart after it’s rung up, wheel the cart into the parking lot, and bag it myself there.

Yeah, I’d been responsible for doing all the bagging the last few visits because I was using my own bags, which was fine! I totally get that.

Just …sucks.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:45:36pm

re: #334 teleskiguy

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Was he talking about the time he almost got on a helicopter but had a moment of intuition and decided not to and the helicopter crashed without him on board and their deaths were all about him? I can’t listen to him talk.

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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:47:23pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:47:31pm

Just found that on our governor’s daily update, the wild north country has the lowest infection rate in the country so far, at 17 per 100,000. However, he is far from resting on his laurels - our stay-at-home order expires this coming weekend, and he is busy trying to get the equipment and space we need and figure out how to continue to be safe. He cited some business sectors claiming they can reopen while being socially responsible, and concern over the fair weather bringing crowds to outdoor locations.

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BigPapa  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:48:57pm

re: #341 Disloyal Archangel

I find a hard time disagreeing with that rationale.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:49:16pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:49:23pm

re: #339 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have bag my own stuff because I brought my own sack to the Acme. I have to go for a few things tomorrow I think I will leave my sack at home.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:49:27pm

re: #341 Disloyal Archangel

As I say, I will be out voting in November no matter what the status of the Coronavirus is.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:52:27pm

On our side of things today, only 17 new cases. Sadly, 3 new deaths, including the first in my age grouping.

I may have spent part of my run this afternoon being angry at people who are agitating against the stay-at-home orders because they are apparently incapable of entertaining themselves without interacting with other humans on a daily basis. I get that I am a) an introvert and b) sharing my home with someone, so that helps mitigate a need for human interaction, but the person in particular who has prompted some of this anger is the sort of person who required the stay-at-home order to not be contributing to the spread. (Read: he was at Tahoe the weekend all the ski resorts shut down - and not to do backcountry skiing.)

Whatever makes the miles go by, I guess.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:55:56pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:56:09pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:56:29pm
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Mattand  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:56:53pm

re: #332 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am super tired of a lot of things but most especially the death cult that’s currently “running” the country.

This is one of the things that’s eating at me the most. Trump stands a good chance of getting re-elected, despite the fact his utterly fucking up the COVID response is a major reason so many people are needlessly dying.

Far too many Republicans/conservatives/MAGAts are in full-on Christian jihadi mode right now. They’re willing to die for this guy, and take as many people with them as they can. And quite frankly, there’s too many people who still won’t open their eyes to how bad this has gotten.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:56:57pm

Paper grocery bags make good packing material for Ebay shipments. Plastic bags are useless for this purpose for the same reason stores like them, near zero volume when flattened or crumpled. The paper bags, otoh, are excellent filler and padding when crumpled. I have been selling on Ebay for 8 years now, 500+ sales, and I have never added to, or even completely used, the single roll of brown wrapping/padding paper I bought when I started. There is always plenty of material from incoming packages and recycled grocery bags.

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2020 • 4:59:12pm

re: #350 Dread Pirate

Employees working in at least 25 different ShopRites in New Jersey have been sickened with the coronavirus

The ones in South Jersey have been spared so far, but I can’t imagine that’s going to last too much longer.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:00:21pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:00:35pm

re: #353 Mattand

It probably won’t be too long. :(

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:03:55pm

The firing of Crozier and the broadcast by Mobley have pissed off the otherwise conservative person I went to high school that was in the Navy.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:04:39pm

I’ve been home since March 25th and made my second trip away from the house to go to the grocery store. I wore a simple mask made from a folded bandana and two rubber bands. About half of the customers and all of the store employees were wearing masks. Lots of employees in the store because they’d obviously just gotten a shipment and were restocking like crazy. The toilet paper shelves were full so I bought a 6-roll pack and now I should have enough to make it through the summer. I had $66.20 in cash with me and my groceries came to $65.98. I bought some fancy (but day-old) pastries because tomorrow is my 15th anniversary at my current job. No meetings or any other human contact scheduled.

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teleskiguy  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:08:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:08:19pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:08:41pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:09:20pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:09:31pm

I’m actually just a ball of incandescent rage this afternoon but I’m trying to channel it into getting something done.

It’s not really working so far.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:10:22pm

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course he did.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:11:20pm

Yeah he doesn’t know that. He only knows how to disclaim responsibility if anything needs doing.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:11:31pm

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He knows the helicopter goes up!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:11:46pm

*SPIT*

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:11:59pm

hi.

5PM CDT numbers from Nebraska.

Positive tests: 412 (+50 from yesterday)
Total deaths: 8 (no change for two days straight)
Newly added counties are now stretching across the eastern rural area of the state, including Cheyenne County (county seat: Cabela’s Sidney, immediately south of me)
There are cases in over a third of the state’s counties.
nebraska.maps.arcgis.com

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:12:12pm

re: #336 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Recycled bags aren’t allowed in my grocery store either, but that’s because the clerks aren’t supposed to touch anything a customer brings in (a Good Thing). So I put my stuff back in my cart after it’s rung up, wheel the cart into the parking lot, and bag it myself there.

My grocery store still has guys (usually seniors) who bag your groceries and bring them out to your car. I was kind of bummed that I only had 22 cents after I’d paid for the groceries, but I remembered I have a small cash stash in the car so I was able to give him a tip.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:13:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:14:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:15:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:15:31pm

YRTC is the Youth Rehabilitation and Training Center in Kearney (in the center of Nebraska)

On Sunday, DHHS’ Epidemiology and YRTC-Kearney staff along with Two Rivers Health Department and the Nebraska National Guard, setup on-site testing for all of YRTC-K residents and staff. After one teammate, who did not return to work after becoming symptomatic, tested positive, a contact investigation commenced. A second teammate was identified as a result of the initial contact investigation.

CEO Dannette Smith said, “We are taking decisive action to coordinate testing to ensure the safety and well-being of our residents and staff. As outlined in our pandemic plan, staff did everything right, those who were symptomatic did not come in to work and immediately reported symptoms to a supervisor, temperature checks of residents and staff began in March and physical visitations were replaced with virtual visits. These steps were key in us immediately identifying potential exposures and mitigating spread. Today, 162 staff were tested with the help of about 25 National Guardsmen. The testing process was very efficient and we appreciate the rapid response from the Guard and Two Rivers.”

(more)
dhhs.ne.gov

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:17:11pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:19:18pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*SPIT*

He always says so little but he never stops running his mouth.

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gwangung  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:21:00pm

re: #374 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He always says so little but he never stops running his mouth.

Perfect reflection of his constituency, though…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:21:22pm

re: #368 stpaulbear

My grocery store still has guys (usually seniors) who bag your groceries and bring them out to your car. I was kind of bummed that I only had 22 cents after I’d paid for the groceries, but I remembered I have a small cash stash in the car so I was able to give him a tip.

The nearest grocery store to me generally uses teenagers for baggers. The store discourages tipping.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:22:34pm

re: #238 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Another one.

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I worked for UPMC for years and they are where my doctors are affiliated. I get their email announcements. Here is part of one I just got today:
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UPMC and University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Scientists Announce Potential Vaccine

Scientists at UPMC and the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine have announced a potential vaccine against SARS-CoV-2, the new coronavirus causing the COVID-19 pandemic.

When tested in mice, the vaccine produces antibodies specific to SARS-CoV-2 at quantities thought to be enough to neutralize the virus. This marks the first study on a potential COVID-19 vaccine to be published after a critique from fellow scientists at outside institutions.

The research team calls this vaccine PittCoVacc, short for Pittsburgh Coronavirus Vaccine.

Scientists also use a new approach to deliver the drug, called a microneedle array, to increase potency. This array is a fingertip-sized patch of 400 tiny needles that deliver spike protein pieces into the skin, where the immune reaction is the strongest.

The patch goes on like a Band-Aid®, and the needles, which are made entirely of sugar and protein pieces, simply dissolve into the skin.

Learn More

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:23:22pm

re: #376 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The nearest grocery store to me generally uses teenagers for baggers. The store discourages tipping.

In normal times, I would agree. Right now, I think folks working in a grocery store deserve it.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:24:55pm

What the ever-loving fuck.

FDA Commissioner Hahn was brought to Oval Friday afternoon to meet w/Laura Ingraham and two doctors close to her about hydroxychloroquine.

I fucking give up.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:25:03pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:26:05pm

re: #368 stpaulbear

My grocery store still has guys (usually seniors) who bag your groceries and bring them out to your car. I was kind of bummed that I only had 22 cents after I’d paid for the groceries, but I remembered I have a small cash stash in the car so I was able to give him a tip.

Publix has baggers too.
They don’t allow tipping no how

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:26:13pm

re: #351 Mattand

On the other side of the coin, we have the largest turnout for a midterm election in history in 2018, because there were a fuquetonne of people who were tired of the graft and corruption. That flipped the House. Imagine if the GOP still controlled it now.

In off-year elections Kentucky’s and Virginia’s governors’ offices flipped (and Virginia flipped its legislature).

We don’t have to flip conservatives; we have to ensure we stay angry at conservative politicians.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:26:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:26:29pm

Helicopter combat briefing for President Trump:

You see, Mr. President, sir, it’s called a chopper because that’s how we defeated enemy tanks in Vietnam. We would sneak up behind them so they couldn’t see us——not much in the way of windows in those things—-and start knocking chunks off the turret with our rotor blades. Then we would really bear down on them, like a buzz saw from the sky, until the whole thing had been converted to scrap metal. It was the same with trucks on the Ho Chi Minh trail, but much easier. Russian trucks are made mostly from pressed cardboard anyway, so it was buzzzbuzzzbuzzzbuzzittt until the whole convoy was wiped out. This wouldn’t work on bunkers though because they were so low to the ground. For those, we had a grappling hook and some tow rope. We would snag the bunker by the slit in the front, then give our machine all the pitch we had and yank that sucker right out of the ground, to be dropped in the nearest river at our convenience. It was almost called a “chipper” but that sounded too friendly and soft so “chopper” it was.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:27:00pm

re: #380 Dread Pirate

They’re going to force it on prisoners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:28:23pm

re: #385 stpaulbear

They’re going to force it on prisoners.

clinical test trials…
human guinea pigs…

jfc

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:29:02pm

re: #377 Eventual Carrion

That is very good news.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:30:41pm

victory lap…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:31:41pm

re: #383 Charles Johnson

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He’s showing his true ugliness here. This guy, our lazy asshole who spends more time golfing, hanging out at his lair, & whining on Twitter than being President wants us to go back to fucking normal to save the economy that he thinks is why he deserves re-election. He’s an evil bastard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:31:51pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:32:01pm

re: #381 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Publix has baggers too.
They don’t allow tipping no how

I don’t even know if it’s banned or allowed. I’ve just gotten into the habit of doing it. On a super busy day when I only had two bags, I tipped the checkout woman. No one has said “sorry, can’t take it”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:32:20pm

re: #378 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In normal times, I would agree. Right now, I think folks working in a grocery store deserve it.

I’m not sure if tipping that is seen would cause a teenager to be fired. I wouldn’t want to cause that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:32:42pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:33:42pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:34:18pm

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

victory lap…

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Oh the template endorsement but now for judges!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:34:45pm

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah he can’t even blame Obama without exposing his own fuckups.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:35:40pm

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

clinical test trials…
human guinea pigs…

jfc

Medical experimentation on incarcerated people against their will (or, you get special privileges if you do this).

There has to be genocide trials when this is over.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:39:30pm

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

victory lap…

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God I wish I could give him a swirly.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:39:45pm

re: #397 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Medical experimentation on incarcerated people against their will (or, you get special privileges if you do this).

There has to be genocide trials when this is over.

I sure hope so.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:40:01pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:40:24pm

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:42:01pm

re: #377 Eventual Carrion

I worked for UPMC for years and they are where my doctors are affiliated. I get their email announcements. Here is part of one I just got today:
———————
UPMC and University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Scientists Announce Potential Vaccine

Scientists at UPMC and the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine have announced a potential vaccine against SARS-CoV-2, the new coronavirus causing the COVID-19 pandemic.

When tested in mice, the vaccine produces antibodies specific to SARS-CoV-2 at quantities thought to be enough to neutralize the virus. This marks the first study on a potential COVID-19 vaccine to be published after a critique from fellow scientists at outside institutions.

The research team calls this vaccine PittCoVacc, short for Pittsburgh Coronavirus Vaccine.

Scientists also use a new approach to deliver the drug, called a microneedle array, to increase potency. This array is a fingertip-sized patch of 400 tiny needles that deliver spike protein pieces into the skin, where the immune reaction is the strongest.

The patch goes on like a Band-Aid®, and the needles, which are made entirely of sugar and protein pieces, simply dissolve into the skin.

Learn More

I’ve been hearing about that too. Fingers crossed, bit mice are not humans.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:42:47pm

re: #402 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I’ve been hearing about that too. Fingers crossed, bit mice are not humans.

Nope. Human trials will be the key, and then if it can be expedited if its efficacy is proven.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:44:35pm

re: #399 Rightwingconspirator

I sure hope so.
littlegreenfootballs.com

I think there’s going to be a lot of long lasting scars after this for us as a nation. I feel we can rebound but Trump in so many ways has made us a poorer nation.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:45:35pm

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:46:52pm

re: #380 Dread Pirate

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:47:04pm

re: #404 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think there’s going to be a lot of long lasting scars after this for us as a nation. I feel we can rebound but Trump in so many ways has made us a poorer nation.

We can rebound — but only if Trump is thrown out of office, the Democrats take control of the Senate and retain the House, and McConnell loses his seat. GOP delenda est.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:47:16pm

Fuck Trump and the enabling GOP.

A family friend is now on a ventilator from covid19. He’s been battling this at home for over a week, was sent to the ER by doctor, who then had him transferred to another hospital where they had beds available. His O2 levels have been okay except they took a dive yesterday, and thankfully they had a ventilator today to put him on to support him.

His wife is a wreck. His kids are young and she’s getting over covid19 too.

And we’ve got Trump trying to micromanage this by counting equipment and gear and not wanting to give anyone too much? Are you fucking kidding me? Gear breaks down. It stays in use for a patient longer. And you have to decide who lives and dies because you don’t have the gear?

This isn’t business sense. It’s depraved indifference to plight of those suffering and dying.

Fuck Trump and his enabling and corrupt GOP. Fuck the GOP dominated court. Fuck McConnell, and the Senate GOP who covered up Trump crimes to stay in power.

This is all on them. All of it.

I’m superfly tnt. I’m the motherfucking guns of the Navarone. This is beyond the pale. We’re watching our friends, family, rich, poor, unknown and known all succumb to this, and Trump’s response was indifference for 2 months. He had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do even the bare minimum, and then he contradicts his experts and takes the word of Navarro and Kushner over Dr. Fauci.

This is all on the GOP. All of it.

I am so fucking angry all the time that all of this was avoidable. All of it. The death toll. The hundreds of thousands sickened and wrecked economically with the bills. The economic wreckage. The shutdown that will persist for weeks and months.

/rant on.

And yet there’s fucking GOPers defending Trump reflexively. We have an entire network whose sole purpose is to provide agitprop and misinformation to cover for Trump and the GOP. ~40% of the nation still supports this corrupt and incompetent admin, even as the body count is rising steadily. They keep making excuses for why this isn’t serious. Why we should resume work. That it’s a hoax. They fucking held years of investigations over deaths of 4 people at Benghazi.

10,000+ are now dead. 2500 Benghazis worth of dead Americans. And the GOP is still at it trying to protect Trump or even seeking to investigate Hunter Biden for Ukraine nonsense while Jared/Ivanka/Junior/Eric are making crapton of money all while Trump’s in office and directing business at his companies.

I am so fucking pissed at all of the people who equated Hillary with Trump.
I am so fucking pissed at the people who thought that Hillary’s emails were important, but Trump’s incompetence, misinformation, and sex predations weren’t.

The media still aren’t being held to account, and they still haven’t learned the lessons from 2016 even as they reflexively publish Trump rallies without checking to see if there’s any actual news being broken by them. These daily pseudorallies aren’t news. They’re his misinformation spigot, all while the body count rises.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:47:34pm

re: #403 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Nope. Human trials will be the key, and then if it can be expedited if its efficacy is proven.

Just use it on Mar-a-Plago partyers. What do they have to lose?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:48:14pm

re: #409 Decatur Deb

Just use it on Mar-a-Plago partyers. What do they have to lose?

I like that they’re so easy to just use their own lines back on them.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:48:29pm

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:49:08pm

re: #409 Decatur Deb

Just use it on Mar-a-Plago partyers. What do they have to lose?

CPAC attendees, what do they have to lose?

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Mike Lamb  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:49:11pm

re: #362 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m actually just a ball of incandescent rage this afternoon but I’m trying to channel it into getting something done.

It’s not really working so far.

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Where is the jurisdictional hook that SCOTUS can intervene here?

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:50:04pm

re: #334 teleskiguy

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Zombie Kid Likes Turtles

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:50:10pm

re: #408 lawhawk

Fuck Trump and the enabling GOP.

A family friend is now on a ventilator from covid19. He’s been battling this at home for over a week, was sent to the ER by doctor, who then had him transferred to another hospital where they had beds available. His O2 levels have been okay except they took a dive yesterday, and thankfully they had a ventilator today to put him on to support him.

His wife is a wreck. His kids are young and she’s getting over covid19 too.

And we’ve got Trump trying to micromanage this by counting equipment and gear and not wanting to give anyone too much? Are you fucking kidding me? Gear breaks down. It stays in use for a patient longer. And you have to decide who lives and dies because you don’t have the gear?

This isn’t business sense. It’s depraved indifference to plight of those suffering and dying.

Fuck Trump and his enabling and corrupt GOP. Fuck the GOP dominated court. Fuck McConnell, and the Senate GOP who covered up Trump crimes to stay in power.

This is all on them. All of it.

I’m superfly tnt. I’m the motherfucking guns of the Navarone. This is beyond the pale. We’re watching our friends, family, rich, poor, unknown and known all succumb to this, and Trump’s response was indifference for 2 months. He had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do even the bare minimum, and then he contradicts his experts and takes the word of Navarro and Kushner over Dr. Fauci.

This is all on the GOP. All of it.

I am so fucking angry all the time that all of this was avoidable. All of it. The death toll. The hundreds of thousands sickened and wrecked economically with the bills. The economic wreckage. The shutdown that will persist for weeks and months.

/rant on.

And yet there’s fucking GOPers defending Trump reflexively. We have an entire network whose sole purpose is to provide agitprop and misinformation to cover for Trump and the GOP. ~40% of the nation still supports this corrupt and incompetent admin, even as the body count is rising steadily. They keep making excuses for why this isn’t serious. Why we should resume work. That it’s a hoax. They fucking held years of investigations over deaths of 4 people at Benghazi.

10,000+ are now dead. 2500 Benghazis worth of dead Americans. And the GOP is still at it trying to protect Trump or even seeking to investigate Hunter Biden for Ukraine nonsense while Jared/Ivanka/Junior/Eric are making crapton of money all while Trump’s in office and directing business at his companies.

I am so fucking pissed at all of the people who equated Hillary with Trump.
I am so fucking pissed at the people who thought that Hillary’s emails were important, but Trump’s incompetence, misinformation, and sex predations weren’t.

The media still aren’t being held to account, and they still haven’t learned the lessons from 2016 even as they reflexively publish Trump rallies without checking to see if there’s any actual news being broken by them. These daily pseudorallies aren’t news. They’re his misinformation spigot, all while the body count risesCo-Signkquote>

Co Sign. With prejudice. Up the road we will take care of business with these cretins.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:50:33pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:51:52pm

re: #411 Rightwingconspirator

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:52:55pm

Apparently us in the DMV are next for a bigger outbreak. I’m definitely a little scared.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:55:37pm

re: #418 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I hope you and your family are safe and well. And hopefully you can do effective things to take the edge of the fear and anxiety. It’s awful.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:55:38pm

re: #408 lawhawk

And back to my refrain: Conservatism kills. In all nations throughout time, whenever they gain and maintain power. Always. Without exception.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:55:45pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:55:47pm

I’m angry, scared, pissed, confused, & I cannot express how much I despise Donald Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:56:50pm

re: #419 A Mom Anon

I hope you and your family are safe and well. And hopefully you can do effective things to take the edge of the fear and anxiety. It’s awful.

We’re doing okay. Thank you.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:58:06pm

re: #421 Patricia Kayden

Oh hell no. Fuque the fake gold-leaf plated god of Conservatism. Fuque their disrespect for the military and their false worship of the Constitution.

By the way, that might be why Trump pancakes so much orange on his face, his love of gold over everything.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:58:36pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:58:59pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 5:59:24pm

Good news: our county has only 24 cases.
Bad news: We tested only 123 suspect cases.

Alabama is flying blind, as usual.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:04:02pm

I haz a confuz. Was it SCOTUS or WISC that ruled against extending the voting deadline?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:04:42pm

re: #428 The Pie Overlord!

I haz a confuz. Was it SCOTUS or WISC that ruled against extending the voting deadline?

SCOTUS

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:04:57pm

Sigh. Germany mortality rate up to 1.75%, with 72% of total cases still active. Germany has a functioning health care system; that suggests the mortality rate of this virus may have been significantly underestimated.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:05:22pm

RBG:

“[Under] this Court’s order, tens of thousands of absentee voters, unlikely to receive their ballots in time to cast them, will be left quite literally without a vote,” she wrote. “This Court’s intervention is thus ill advised, especially so at this late hour.”

She noted that the conservative majority cited concerns about the lower courts intervening in an election so close to the day ballots are cast. But, she pointed out, this unusual step is warranted by a “grave, rapidly developing public health crisis.” And she argued that, even if this point were true, the Supreme Court’s intervention now is “all the more inappropriate.”

“The majority of this Court declares that this case presents a ‘narrow, technical question,’” she continued. “That is wrong. The question here is whether tens of thousands of Wisconsin citizens can vote safely in the midst of a pandemic. Under the District Court’s order, they would be able to do so. Even if they receive their absentee ballot in the days immediately following election day, they could return it. With the majority’s stay in place, that will not be possible. Either they will have to brave the polls, endangering their own and others’ safety. Or they will lose their right to vote, though no fault of their own. That is a matter of utmost importance— to the constitutional rights of Wisconsin’s citizens, the integrity of the State’s election process, and in this most extraordinary time, the health of the Nation.”
rawstory.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:07:13pm
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:07:59pm

re: #431 jaunte

The country is finished.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:08:26pm

re: #425 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That ship already sailed …

Countdown before he’s quit-fired …

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:09:00pm

re: #433 Ace Rothstein

I think we can take em.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:09:34pm

A cleaning person came to my house today. She scrubbed out the fridge (the yearly fridge cleaning) and did a super excellent job in preparing the kitchen (tonight my son will perform the kashering and bring up the Passover stuff).

I gave the cleaning person double my usual tip (they are paid a flat rate by the cleaning service).

I gave my son a tip: TURN OFF THAT FOX NEWS SHIT BECAUSE IT IS GETTING ON MY LAST NERVE.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:11:50pm

re: #436 The Pie Overlord!

I know you love your children, but the Fox-watching bunch you can make an exception for. //

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:13:52pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:14:07pm

re: #425 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

He needs to resign.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:23:11pm

Republicans represent only greed and death.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:23:53pm

Stress relief-Cooking dinner. Smoke some bud and work the recipe.

Thawed a steak. Have shallots, garlic, wine, cast iron skillet. Thinking roast the garlic and shallots, pan sear the steak and put them together in the end. Eat and watch with Rachael Maddow.

Man I need a date night. Probably via Zoom. Have a nice dinner delivered to the wife and myself Friday night. Eat together (sorta) and have some conversation.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:24:28pm
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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:25:35pm

They should rename these presidential briefings “Alo Presidente”
en.wikipedia.org

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plansbandc  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:27:05pm

re: #397 Anymouse 🌹🏡

This is textbook genocide. He makes me vomit.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:30:16pm

So Modly had to apologize, but then word got down to the crew to not criticize up the chain of command.

Yeah, the Navy’s in complete and total CYA mode because they fired a leader who was doing everything to protect their troops because the chain of command ignored COVID19 as a threat. In the process a carrier task force was sidelined. Mazel Tov. You’ve just helped undermine our readiness because the Navy is following Trump’s directives and not common fucking sense.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:31:04pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:32:47pm

re: #442 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Thank goodness someone had the sense to record him. These idiots need to be exposed at all costs.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:33:34pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:34:17pm

re: #428 The Pie Overlord!

I haz a confuz. Was it SCOTUS or WISC that ruled against extending the voting deadline?

SCOTUS ruled against the extension of the deadline for absentee ballots.

WISC ruled that the governor couldn’t postpone the election because of the pandemic.

They’re both out to kill people.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:34:34pm

Complaining about senior leadership is kind of how America happened. Keep it up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:35:31pm

re: #445 lawhawk

So Modly had to apologize, but then word got down to the crew to not criticize up the chain of command.

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Yeah, the Navy’s in complete and total CYA mode because they fired a leader who was doing everything to protect their troops because the chain of command ignored COVID19 as a threat. In the process a carrier task force was sidelined. Mazel Tov. You’ve just helped undermine our readiness because the Navy is following Trump’s directives and not common fucking sense.

As they say, “the fish rots from the head down”. Trump is rotten to the core as are those who still report to him. Anyone with principles in a position of leadership in this administration has long since been fired or resigned. Dr. Fauci may be an exception — but let’s not assume that he will be around much longer.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:35:43pm

re: #441 Rightwingconspirator

We’re in Pesach prep. The Mrs is baking - chocolate chip cookies, a chocolate hazelnut torte, and chocolate chip muffins. I’m up tomorrow with a turkey breast and a brisket along with sides.

The turkey will be a citrus ginger sauce.

The brisket is mom’s recipe, which is a rough cut miripoix with tomato sauce, tomato paste, garlic, parsley. I’ve made it a couple of times, and now that I have mom’s pot she would make it in, it actually tastes like how she’d make it. It’s weird how that works.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:37:24pm

I fucking hate Wisconsin so much.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:38:40pm
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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:39:27pm

This fucking guy.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:40:13pm

re: #454 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We need to know *which* private companies.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:40:58pm

re: #456 jaunte

We need to know *which* private companies.

A few run by some former Republican lobbyists are coming to mind. Just a feeling.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:42:16pm

Health care workers are getting hammered with covid19. They died in China. They died in Italy. They’re dying here too.

And the counts are scary.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:44:46pm

My wife is making andouille sausage wrapped in a super-spicy biscuit dough, seasoned with chipotle peppers, Hungarian paprika, black pepper, garlic, rosemary, thyme, Cayenne pepper, and salt.

(Most of those spices are not available in my area, you have to mail-order them.)

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:45:54pm

re: #449 klys (maker of Silmarils)

SCOTUS ruled against the extension of the deadline for absentee ballots.

WISC ruled that the governor couldn’t postpone the election because of the pandemic.

They’re both out to kill people.

GORSUCH is the monster who ruled (fortunately in minority) that a truck driver had an obligation to freeze to death and not abandon his cargo.

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Jay C  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:46:24pm

re: #445 lawhawk

So Modly had to apologize, but then word got down to the crew to not criticize up the chain of command.

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Yeah, the Navy’s in complete and total CYA mode because they fired a leader who was doing everything to protect their troops because the chain of command ignored COVID19 as a threat. In the process a carrier task force was sidelined. Mazel Tov. You’ve just helped undermine our readiness because the Navy is following Trump’s directives and not common fucking sense.

Also, WTF is Modly going about the “government of Guam”? Isn’t Guam an American (?dependency? territory?) - he makes it sound like they are going to demand TR leave or whatever??
Stupid Trump putz……

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:46:40pm

Who needs a laugh?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:46:52pm

“Atheistic worldview.” There’s no such thing. And for some reason, there are conservative atheists who support the GOP taking away their rights, but okay.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:47:50pm
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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:49:23pm

re: #463 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I am influenced by Russian propaganda to point that it has overcome my own decision-making process

That really works when you read it with a Russian accent.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:49:35pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:52:48pm

re: #459 Anymouse 🌹🏡

My wife is making andouille sausage wrapped in a super-spicy biscuit dough, seasoned with chipotle peppers, Hungarian paprika, black pepper, garlic, rosemary, thyme, Cayenne pepper, and salt.

(Most of those spices are not available in my area, you have to mail-order them.)

So, She is making you a spicy Louisiana-style pig in a blanket in other words. What’s the side?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:54:13pm

Panhandle Public Health District has completed the latest contact tracing in Kimball, Sidney, and Scottsbluff.

pphd.org

You’ll note in the active orders, one church is in there multiple times (despite the governor’s order closing churches to meetings over ten).

Also Safeways multiple times, Dollar General multiple times, &c.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:55:19pm

re: #448 Dread Pirate

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Speaking in broken…English.

In her art that’s the only song I know, but I love it.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:57:46pm
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Citizen K  Apr 6, 2020 • 6:58:20pm

The SCOTUS ruling is just a nice, lovely reminder of how truly fucked we remain. And yet how absolutely dire and necessary it will be to vote in November, because if Trump wins again, if we don’t make a dent in the Senate or keep the House, we will be even more irreparably fucked for at least a generation because the courts will ensure we remain a ‘conservative’ country that sees empathy and fairness as the worst of sins.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:02:28pm

re: #467 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

So, She is making you a spicy Louisiana-style pig in a blanket in other words. What’s the side?

The side dish: more sausage.

She says she’ll make a snack of beets later.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:03:28pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:04:56pm

Is it OK to go for a drive if I don’t get out of the car?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:05:01pm

re: #473 Charles Johnson

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People will get mad when folks outside of NYC start dying.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:05:14pm

re: #473 Charles Johnson

Wondering what might happen if America wakes up, turns off Dancing With The Stars, and gets mad about what the Republican Party is doing to the country.

I know it’s probably not gonna happen. But what if?]

If it doesn’t happen in the next six months, it will never happen.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:08:51pm

re: #470 Dread Pirate

The GOP is going to make our nation a pariah amongst civilised states.

The world will find very quickly that they actually do not need to trade with us.

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:09:00pm

re: #405 Patricia Kayden

Trump told us there would be so much ‘winning’ if he were elected that we’d be ‘sick of it’.

That may be the only thing he said as a candidate that has come true (from a certain point of view).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:10:26pm

re: #474 The Pie Overlord!

Is it OK to go for a drive if I don’t get out of the car?

Yes, but you should still carry sanitising wipes (wipe down the door handle and anything else you plan on touching).

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:13:35pm

re: #431 jaunte

I’d like to see the SCOTUS dissents start calling out the majority as the unprincipled GOP party hacks that they are.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:14:20pm

Oh, Gosh, We’re Also Running Out Of Drugs Needed To Keep People On Ventilators (Wonkette)

Turns out capitalism is a really crappy way to deliver healthcare.

As we bumble through a worldwide pandemic with the supply chain for medical supplies looking like a game of Hungry Hungry Hippos without enough marbles, it’s worth keeping in mind that it’s not just personal protective equipment and ventilators that could soon be in short supply (goes to Vox). Hospitals all across the country could soon face a shortage of the sedatives, pain medications, and other pharmaceuticals that are necessary to keep people in respiratory distress on ventilators. That could quickly become the next big shortage in this medical crisis, according to experts in the pharma supply chain, and there are a whole bunch of reasons it will be difficult to ramp up production and distribution of the needed meds in time to meet the needs.

So please, look at the kittens and take some deep, regular breaths, because this is some scary stuff.

(more)

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:15:25pm

re: #442 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Modly is a Rear Echelon Mother Fucker.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:20:06pm

re: #481 Anymouse 🌹🏡

And we’re a first world country, right? Sigh.
Perhaps we don’t need to waste so much money on the military or tax cuts for the rich so that we’ll have enough to invest in medicine and healthcare.

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EPR-radar  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:20:25pm

re: #474 The Pie Overlord!

Is it OK to go for a drive if I don’t get out of the car?

Sure. It will be an incorrect datapoint for that silly online nonsense where people’s compliance with social distancing is measured by miles driven or the like, but that’s not important.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:22:11pm

re: #474 The Pie Overlord!

Is it OK to go for a drive if I don’t get out of the car?

Check with your local police jurisdictions. Some are being stupid.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:22:48pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:23:09pm

re: #485 Decatur Deb

Check with your local police jurisdictions. Some are being stupid.

My planned route goes through several jurisdictions.

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mmmirele  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:23:09pm

Unbelievable. In addition to continuing to harass women at the Planned Parenthood in Tempe, and meeting for church on Sunday in general defiance of good sense, the local anti-abortion types did this. You’ll have to expand to see their work on a billboard.

I wish I had a N95 mask in the worst way. These people DESPERATELY need a protest.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:24:13pm

re: #474 The Pie Overlord!

Is it OK to go for a drive if I don’t get out of the car?

Not really. If you get in an accident or the car breaks down it could be an issue.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:24:29pm

re: #487 The Pie Overlord!

My planned route goes through several jurisdictions.

Some might have posted their interpretations on their websites.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:30:15pm

re: #470 Dread Pirate

Wow. That author pulled no punches.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:34:10pm

re: #469 Barefoot Grin

Speaking in broken…English.

In her art that’s the only song I know, but I love it.

Marianne Faithfull - As Tears Go By (1964)

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:49:35pm

re: #474 The Pie Overlord!

Is it OK to go for a drive if I don’t get out of the car?

My wife and I have been doing that - jumping in the car and driving to different parts of the island, checking out houses and looking at all the restaurants we can’t eat at.

It’s nice to get out of the house, and we don’t come into contact with other humans.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 6, 2020 • 7:50:34pm

re: #425 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

He should tender his resignation in the full Japanese sense of the word. Or have a classic Darth Vader performance review.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡  Apr 6, 2020 • 9:49:02pm

[moved to next thread]

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Ming5000  Apr 7, 2020 • 4:11:58am

re: #474 The Pie Overlord!

Is it OK to go for a drive if I don’t get out of the car?

I know this is CL’d
It is better to stay home. Stay off the roads unless necessary.

Reduce the load. Pressure by example everyone to stay home.

Even if just joy riding, you could have a car wreck or other problem requiring interaction with others or first responders.

Stay home


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