Seth “Thorn Birds” Meyers Attic Session: Trump Wants His Coronavirus Failures to Be “Quickly Forgotten”

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Seth takes a closer look at the president and his allies trying to wish away the coronavirus pandemic and hoping everyone forgets that he botched the response to the crisis.

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1
Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:43:12am

It’s a Good Friday to see your tax returns you sociopathic bag of phlegm.

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:43:17am
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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:43:47am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:44:42am
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Disloyal Archangel  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:46:40am

Replying to a post from the last thread:

re: #265 Chrysicat

[Embedded content] There IS a Trump Tower Denver?

It seems I was off a bit - not a Trump Tower in Denver but Trump Plaza in Denver.
There was a Trump Tower development effort that started in 2006, which I remembered for some reason, but apparently its construction was cancelled about a decade ago; there’s Trump Plaza apartments complex instead.
In my defense, the site I saw that listed the Denver tower details didn’t mention the “cancelled” part - I assumed the latter was the former. My bad.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:47:38am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:50:17am

Ran across an obituary for Ira Einhorn today, and it set me thinking about the Dirtbag Left & the BernieBros, and how they share a common denominator.

Their “support” of liberal causes is shallow and performative. It’s not based on compassion or a wish for understanding. It’s an excuse for righteous anger - the left-spectrum version of a segment of the right’s obsession with “INNOCENT BABBIES ABORTION MURDER!”

Einhorn died in jail for a jealous murder of an ex-girlfriend who he stashed in a trunk in his apartment until neighbors complained about the stench; then he fled to France, was extradited and tried to blame the CIA for her murder.

He was also a self-centered “leftist” who more than anything else, wanted to seize some kind of moral high ground by being More Leftist Than Thou. Radical chic was invented as a phrase to describe this kind of cockroach.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:50:50am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:51:29am

More about Einhorn: his deep misogyny mirrors the Chapo Trap House set, with a side dash of violence & ugly narcissism and attempts to make everything about himself:

In reality, Einhorn was asked to leave committee meetings leading up to the initial Earth Day because of his disruptive behavior and he didn’t contribute to the organization of the event in any way. Because of his status in the local environmental community, he was allowed to take the stage, which turned into a 30-minute episode in which Einhorn refused to give up the microphone or vacate the stage.

Two of the original leaders of Earth Day in Philadelphia later wrote, “Much to our dismay, we now find that Einhorn … has been taking credit for initiating or organizing Earth Day. He is not telling the truth. Einhorn, given a small role on the stage at Earth Day, grabbed the microphone and refused to give up the podium for 30 minutes, thinking he would get some free television publicity. We just waited until he had completed his ‘act’ and then got on to the serious business at hand: the keynote speech of U.S. Sen. Edmund Muskie, author of the landmark Clean Air Act of 1970. Einhorn is a fraud.”

Nevertheless, to this day, stories that Einhorn “founded” Earth Day continue to flourish in the press.

Beyond the activism and the boisterous public persona, there was a darker side to Ira Einhorn. He was a womanizer whose domineering personality would sometimes erupt into violence. On at least two occasions prior to 1977, the hippie guru attacked women who rejected him. In one case he strangled a woman until she was unconscious. In another, he hit a woman over the head with a bottle. In his journal, Einhorn wrote, “Violence always marks the end of a relationship.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:54:29am

So Ammon Bundy and his Pals want to play Dirt Nap Derby!

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Teukka  Apr 10, 2020 • 10:59:36am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:00:25am

re: #11 Teukka

Ha! That is some epic ownage. 👍🏻

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:01:01am

Meanwhile, as bad as it is here in the U.S. - and in the next two weeks, it is about to get WAY worse - my friends in Ecuador have been telling me that it is so much worse there. The NY Times today writes about the port city of Guayaquil, where dead bodies rot in the streets

This was taken days ago. There are many more bodies now, according to GKCities, the local news website (not gov’t-controlled propaganda)
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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:02:57am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:03:01am

So many have died, that the dead are shoved into cardboard boxes and left on the streets to be loaded onto stinking flatbed trucks in the tropical heat

Guayaquil is on the Pacific coast, right near the equator (thus the country name - Ecuador)
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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:04:14am

Texas Democratic Party Chair Gilberto Hinojosa issued the following statement:

“As we face the worst public health crisis in a century, neither Governor Abbott nor Secretary of State Hughes have issued concrete guidance to county election officials on whether voters can cast a mail-in ballot during the coronavirus pandemic.

“Republicans have opposed vote-by-mail without providing any credible justification. Current law allows any voter whose health may be injured by voting in person to vote by mail. As our city and county leaders issue shelter-in-place orders and our residents are urged to stay inside, we must protect Texans’ ability to cast a ballot without jeopardizing their health or safety.

“Texas Democrats will continue to protect our fundamental right to vote and the integrity of our elections. We must not allow the coronavirus outbreak to halt our democracy.”

Lawsuit (pdf) at link

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Teukka  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:05:01am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

Ha! That is some epic ownage. 👍🏻

Iframe

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:06:38am

re: #16 jaunte

Mail-in ballots looks like the way most people will be voting. PA primary has been moved to June. We shall see what happens.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:07:47am
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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:10:58am

This is what breaking the quarantine too early shows.

And as for the canard that the virus dies out in the summer heat?

Guayaquil is a steamy tropical city. On the equator. Never gets cold. Virus is running rampant there.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:12:14am

This sounds like the beginning of a bad movie….

Coronavirus samples stolen from Chicago lab employee’s car, police say
Coronavirus test samples were stolen from the car of a lab employee in Chicago, according to police and local reports.

The 42-year-old woman had five frozen samples in the trunk of her Jeep when she parked it outside a gas station on the city’s South Side and went inside the store, Chicago police said in a statement. The samples were to be tested for covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, the Chicago Sun-Times reported, citing a law enforcement source.

As the woman walked into the station, a man climbed into her Jeep, which she had left unlocked and running, police said. She and a relative went looking for the car and found it about two miles away. They alerted nearby officers.

When the officers approached the Jeep, two men jumped out and ran. The officers were not able to catch the pair. The test samples were missing from the trunk, police said.

Police are continuing their search for the two men.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:12:59am

My Sister-in-law seems “concerned” on FB that a lot of stations are not carrying Trump’s briefings live anymore…not about to even open that discussion.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:13:02am

re: #19 jaunte

One more reason to watch PBS. NJTV is showing actual classroom matter because kids are at home. WHYY is also showing grade appropriate shows. That is far better than DT reading tweets.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:13:22am

Doctors & nurses have barricaded themselves inside the hospitals.

Military conscripts drag the dead out every day and dump them like sacks of wet cement outside the doors for family members to collect.

BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!

Preview of Coming Attractions here in the U.S. if Trump is allowed to lift the quarantine.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:15:32am
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Teukka  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:18:29am

re: #24 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Doctors & nurses have barricaded themselves inside the hospitals.

Military conscripts drag the dead out every day and dump them like sacks of wet cement outside the doors for family members to collect.

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Preview of Coming Attractions here in the U.S. if Trump is allowed to lift the quarantine.

And by then, the place of origin of that photo will have another preview of coming attractions if people don’t get their shit together. Do not fall into the trap of believing things can’t get worse than this.

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stpaulbear  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:19:08am

Mayo clinic cutting pay for more than 20,000 workers. Mpls StarTrib

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:21:42am

what the actual fuck

This was posted today. Is he playing the Greatest Shits, or has there been some Star Trek spacetime anomaly that I don’t know about? I mean, I’ve been working from home for about a month now and my “routine” has really done a number on my perception of the passing of time, but this is downright bizarre.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:25:10am

re: #393 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Hmm, came across a reference to an old (1975) BBC series called “Survivors”. I remember seeing episodes of it on various PBS stations in the late 80s and during the 90s.

Post-apocalyptic setting in England after a Chinese scientist accidentally unleashes a plague that wipes out 99% of humanity after being rapidly spread by air travel.
en.wikipedia.org

The show is available for free on youtube

Survivors : Eps 1. The Fourth Horseman.

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stpaulbear  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:28:17am

Per WaPo:

Five men in their 40s and 50s, accompanied by three women in their mid-20s, arrived in France via a private plane chartered in London by a Croatian businessman. Helicopters awaited them on the tarmac. Their destination: a luxury villa in Cannes.

French police intercepted the Embraer Legacy jet and its 10 occupants on April 4 as the group landed at the Marseille-Provence airport, Agence France-Press reported. Authorities refused the group entry into the country and sent them back on their jet to the United Kingdom.

“They were coming for a holiday in Cannes, and three helicopters were waiting on the tarmac,” a border police spokesperson told AFP. “We notified them they were not allowed to enter the national territory, and they left four hours later.”

The holidaymakers included Croatian, German, French, Romanian and Ukrainian citizens, according to AFP.

Rick fucks think this is someone else’s problem.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:30:20am

re: #19 jaunte

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But is CNN carrying it?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:32:00am

re: #28 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:34:45am

re: #28 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

what the actual fuck

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This was posted today. Is he playing the Greatest Shits, or has there been some Star Trek spacetime anomaly that I don’t know about? I mean, I’ve been working from home for about a month now and my “routine” has really done a number on my perception of the passing of time, but this is downright bizarre.

Congrats to the GOP
Your standard bearer is officially insane

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:37:05am

re: #33 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Congrats to the GOP
Your standard bearer is officially insane

Happy Good Friday, indeed…

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KingKenrod  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:37:11am

Warren supporters switched to Biden over Sanders by a wide margin:

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Elizabeth Warren’s departure from the Democratic presidential race appears to have benefited front-runner Joe Biden more than Bernie Sanders, her liberal ally on many issues, according to a Reuters/Ipsos national opinion poll released on Monday.

The poll conducted from Friday to Monday showed that 47% of registered Democrats and independents said they would vote for Biden if their state’s nominating contests were held today, up 7 points from a similar poll that ran just before Warren suspended her campaign last Thursday.

Thirty percent said they would vote for Sanders, a senator from Vermont, unchanged from the previous poll.

reuters.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:41:30am

re: #33 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

Congrats to the GOP
Your standard bearer is officially insane

I no longer refer to them as the GOP.

I refer to them as the

Crackpot
Racist
Asshole
Party

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:44:07am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I’ve seen two Amazon delivery vans on my block at the same time. Jeff’s significantly cut down on USPS usage.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:45:27am

This picture.

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:46:11am

re: #37 Belafon

I’ve seen two Amazon delivery vans on my block at the same time. Jeff’s significantly cut down on USPS usage.

I stopped into our local post office this morning. It had the same sad feel as a store that’s teetering on the edge of failure, just all run down and dusty.

This sucks. There has been a US Postal Service for my entire life. What the fuck happens if they go under altogether?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:46:16am

re: #37 Belafon

I’ve seen two Amazon delivery vans on my block at the same time. Jeff’s significantly cut down on USPS usage.

I agree that the very function and nature of postal services in the US has changed radically over past decades and it is worth looking into reforming the nature of how it functions, but as long as physical mail still exists as a means of communication, the USPS should continue to fulfill its duty.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:46:48am
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A Mom Anon  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:48:54am

re: #39 makeitstop

All Congress has to do is get rid of the idiotic rule Republicans rammed through that requires the USPS fund their pension fund 75 fucking years in advance. They want the post office to fail so we cannot vote by mail.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:50:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:50:21am

re: #42 A Mom Anon

All Congress has to do is get rid of the idiotic rule Republicans rammed through that requires the USPS fund their pension fund 75 fucking years in advance. They want the post office to fail so we cannot vote by mail.

they want to run government like a business and now they want to close the mail room…

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BeachDem  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:50:50am

re: #28 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

what the actual fuck

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This was posted today. Is he playing the Greatest Shits, or has there been some Star Trek spacetime anomaly that I don’t know about? I mean, I’ve been working from home for about a month now and my “routine” has really done a number on my perception of the passing of time, but this is downright bizarre.

Re: that “irrefutable fact” that if Elizabeth Warren gets out of the race before Super Tuesday, Crazy Bernie Sanders wins virtually every state in a blowout.

Alabama Super Tuesday
Biden—286,065
All other candidates combined—166,028

Arkansas
Biden—92,586
Sanders+Warren—73,977

Virginia
Biden—705,800
All other candidates combined—608,759

NC
Biden—568,581
Sanders+Warren—457,374

Tennessee
Biden—215,005
Sanders+Warren—182,243

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:51:21am

re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I agree that the very function and nature of postal services in the US has changed radically over past decades and it is worth looking into reforming the nature of how it functions, but as long as physical mail still exists as a means of communication, the USPS should continue to fulfill its duty.

I agree. I wouldn’t mind paying taxes to support it. It’s essential.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:51:39am
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aatharuv  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:53:19am

re: #37 Belafon

I’ve seen two Amazon delivery vans on my block at the same time. Jeff’s significantly cut down on USPS usage.

And I got an Amazon package delivered right by USPS just a few minutes back. For sufficiently small packages, it’s still worth it to deliver it by mail, even in cities and relatively dense suburbs, let alone exurbs and rural areas.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:53:38am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

This is just awful by any standard. He’s an infected doorknob with an Adderall problem.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:54:37am

re: #42 A Mom Anon

All Congress has to do is get rid of the idiotic rule Republicans rammed through that requires the USPS fund their pension fund 75 fucking years in advance. They want the post office to fail so we cannot vote by mail.

No — it’s not tied to VBM. They just want private companies to take over the mails and charge a fortune. Privatize everything is their motto — and if you don’t have money, you’re meaningless to them. This has been their angle for years.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:55:31am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

2016 redux.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:58:05am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they want to run government like a business and now they want to close the mail room…

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Teukka  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:58:15am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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cat-tikvah  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:58:55am

re: #7 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Ran across an obituary for Ira Einhorn today, and it set me thinking about the Dirtbag Left & the BernieBros, and how they share a common denominator.

Their “support” of liberal causes is shallow and performative. It’s not based on compassion or a wish for understanding. It’s an excuse for righteous anger - the left-spectrum version of a segment of the right’s obsession with “INNOCENT BABBIES ABORTION MURDER!”

Einhorn died in jail for a jealous murder of an ex-girlfriend who he stashed in a trunk in his apartment until neighbors complained about the stench; then he fled to France, was extradited and tried to blame the CIA for her murder.

He was also a self-centered “leftist” who more than anything else, wanted to seize some kind of moral high ground by being More Leftist Than Thou. Radical chic was invented as a phrase to describe this kind of cockroach.

I was living in West Philadelphia when the murder was discovered and followed the story of Einhorn’s escape and then bucolic life in pastoral France.
I cheered when I saw the front page article that he died.
Goodbye, “planetary enzyme”. Rot in hell.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:59:18am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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Those that make the programming decisions at the major networks are the same people. It’s not a mistake, it is deliberate. This is the America they want.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 10, 2020 • 11:59:57am

re: #46 Belafon

I agree. I wouldn’t mind paying taxes to support it. It’s essential.

you do, james, you do
and yes i know how it works
but money is fungible - at least that’s what the R’s keep telling us especially w/r/t grants to certain kinds of non profits

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:01:38pm

re: #53 Teukka

The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History by John M. Barry.

“The final lesson of 1918, a simple one yet one most difficult to execute, is that… those in authority must retain the public’s trust. The way to do that is to distort nothing, to put the best face on nothing, to try to manipulate no one.”

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:02:13pm

mrs dm just came in and said fuck work, lets go work on the pond

so we’re gonna

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:02:23pm

re: #54 cat-tikvah

I was living in West Philadelphia when the murder was discovered and followed the story of Einhorn’s escape and then bucolic life in pastoral France.
I cheered when I saw the front page article that he died.
Goodbye, “planetary enzyme”. Rot in hell.

First I ever heard of Ira Einhorn was way back in the 1980s, on America’s Most Wanted.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:02:35pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:03:37pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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The networks are repeating their 2016 bias. Giving endless free time to the thug they support!

It’s time to bring back the Equal Time and Fairness Doctrine rules!

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Teukka  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:04:33pm

re: #57 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)

To paraphrase Craig Mazin via “Chernobyl”:

“But the truth is always there, whether we see it or not, whether we choose to or not.
The truth doesn’t care about our needs or wants.
It doesn’t care about our governments, our ideologies, our religions.
It will lie in wait for all time.”

And it will get us.

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cat-tikvah  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:06:24pm

re: #59 Dr Lizardo

The obit reminded me that Arlen Spector helped get him out on bail, which he then skipped out on to flee the country.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:07:34pm

So the IHME model predicts that today is going to be the peak new-deaths day in the US, with a gradual fall off from here.

We’ll see.

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:10:32pm

re: #42 A Mom Anon

All Congress has to do is get rid of the idiotic rule Republicans rammed through that requires the USPS fund their pension fund 75 fucking years in advance. They want the post office to fail so we cannot vote by mail.

Yeah, they’ve ben gunning for the Post Office for a long time. There’s a lot to hate about the Post Office if you are a wingnut asshole. For one, it provides decent jobs to minorities and veterans who might otherwise have the deck stacked against them in the job market. For another, it proves that a non-private entity can function very efficiently. But I think maybe the biggest problem they have with it is all that money that ISN’T further enriching already-rich people.
They mostly refuse to address the last-mile issue, because rural people getting disconnected from mail service means nothing compared to private profit. Also, I don’t think I have seen any of them address the fact that the PO is constitutionally mandated, which is a little odd for such fervent constitution-lovers.

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garzooma  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:10:48pm

re: #64 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the IHME model predicts that today is going to be the peak new-deaths day in the US, with a gradual fall off from here.

We’ll see.

To be fair, the IHME model seems to have tracked the last few days fairly well. I’ve been skeptical, but credit where due.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:13:47pm

WTF is he talking about human trafficking when asked about FEMA confiscating medical equipment? I am going to have to start day drinking.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:14:57pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:18:53pm

re: #68 DodgerFan1988

A couple of months ago there was someone who did very similar near China Town. He was in front of the Federal Reserve Bank yelling and screaming for the “Chinks to go home.” Quite a few people were glaring at him and staying more than 6 feet from him.

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Teukka  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:18:54pm

re: #68 DodgerFan1988

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:23:43pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:23:52pm

re: #66 garzooma

To be fair, the IHME model seems to have tracked the last few days fairly well. I’ve been skeptical, but credit where due.

They updated the model only a couple of days ago.

Also, their projections flat line after May. This is because the model expects lockdowns to remain in effect through May, which then expects the new cases to drop near zero.

But that is not going to happen, I suspect.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:25:34pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:26:16pm

re: #71 Patricia Kayden

I say we never see it.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:27:24pm

re: #67 A Mom Anon

WTF is he talking about human trafficking when asked about FEMA confiscating medical equipment? I am going to have to start day drinking.

Or you need to start drinking before watching his press conferences.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:27:43pm

re: #74 Dave In Austin

Breaking that promise would bury them.

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:27:51pm

re: #68 DodgerFan1988

Had that witch stolen the grocery cart?

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:28:00pm

re: #48 aatharuv

And I got an Amazon package delivered right by USPS just a few minutes back. For sufficiently small packages, it’s still worth it to deliver it by mail, even in cities and relatively dense suburbs, let alone exurbs and rural areas.

I just had a couple HDMI cables delivered by USPS a couple days ago. Haven’t seen how the switch box I ordered along with them will be delivered since it hasn’t shipped yet, but I would bet it gets here via USPS at some point. We very much need the postal service. And as I read elsewhere, we really don’t need the cruise lines.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:28:05pm

re: #74 Dave In Austin

Or it gets taken out of any Federal tax refund next year.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:29:58pm

re: #71 Patricia Kayden

That does shortchange that we’re dumping a lot of money into unemployment. But it’s still weaker than other countries.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:31:13pm

re: #78 Eventual Carrion

Here in rural Arizona most of the last mile is done by USPS. I occasionally see UPS and FedEx, but mainly for large or expensive items.

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:34:54pm

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unproven innocence  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:35:15pm

re: #64 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the IHME model predicts that today is going to be the peak new-deaths day in the US, with a gradual fall off from here.

We’ll see.

As of this hour, the model (apparently) still assumes “success” for social-distancing and other human behavioral modifications, in halting or greatly reducing rates of new infections, such that total # infected does not exceed 3% of the population(s) in the very near-future. You will not see 3% mentioned explicitly, but 97% is there, in black and white, in the FAQ:
Length of the epidemic

Why do your estimates only go until July? Does that mean the outbreak will be over then?

Our model says that social distancing will likely lead to the end of the first wave of the epidemic by early June. The question of whether there will be a second wave of the epidemic will depend on what we do to avoid reintroducing COVID-19 into the population. By end the of the first wave of the epidemic, an estimated 97% of the population of the United States will still be susceptible to the disease, so avoiding reintroduction of COVID-19 through mass screening, contact tracing, and quarantine will be essential to avoid a second wave.

Italics & bolding added.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:36:13pm

re: #39 makeitstop

I stopped into our local post office this morning. It had the same sad feel as a store that’s teetering on the edge of failure, just all run down and dusty.

This sucks. There has been a US Postal Service for my entire life. What the fuck happens if they go under altogether?

The GOP immediately stops opposing vote-by-mail since it will then be very easy for the ballots to be delayed in delivery and thus be declared invalid and not counted.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:38:09pm

re: #80 Belafon

That does shortchange that we’re dumping a lot of money into unemployment. But it’s still weaker than other countries.

The US unemployment system is horribly fractured, broken, and dehumanizing. The plan was to keep as many people out of it as possible by incentivizing business to maintain payroll, but the Republicans fucked that all up.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:41:33pm

re: #15 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Look, I’m sorry, but this photo just doesn’t seem believable.

We see two large cardboard boxes, positioned vertically, with grieving woman sat between them.

1. The boxes are way too big for a human body.
2. They’re vertical. Outside of horror films dead human bodies don’t stand upright.
3. There are two of them. Some pandemic.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:42:39pm

re: #86 John Hughes

Nothing in that post says the boxes are occupied.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:45:13pm
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A Mom Anon  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:46:36pm

Oh god. Now he’s saying he’s going to surround himself with the smartest people. But he really doesn’t need their input because he knows what’s going on “up here” and points to his head. Kill me.

That’s it, I can’t do it anymore. Bong hit time.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:47:15pm
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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:47:30pm

Abby Normal.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:47:50pm

re: #89 A Mom Anon

That is why I am watching movies.

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unproven innocence  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:48:04pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Smarter than our president, apparently.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:48:10pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

He’s Benjamin Button, a 4 year old trapped in an old man’s body.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:48:45pm

re: #30 stpaulbear

Per WaPo:

Rick fucks think this is someone else’s problem.

They should have been imprisoned, except we’re trying to reduce the vulnerable prison population, now down to a historic low of only 107% overpopulation.

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bratwurst  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:50:12pm

Listening to this is like being stuck next to a drunken blowhard in a bar.

The one thing he keeps saying that blows my mind is that this pandemic is proving how important borders are.

I think anyone of average intelligence would see clearly that if anything, this has proven once and for all that BORDERS ARE UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY WORTHLESS.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:51:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:55:06pm
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danarchy  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:55:54pm

re: #71 Patricia Kayden

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Didn’t they also add $600 weekly on top of regular unemployment benefits? So like $2400 per month, plus the PPP which is allowing small businesses to keep people on payroll, I have one client who furloughed a bunch of people two weeks ago and just got their small business loan and are starting to bring people back. This just seems totally misleading.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:56:01pm

You could die of disgust, just watching tv.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:56:13pm
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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:57:00pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:58:15pm

re: #101 Patricia Kayden

I am not surprised. When I went to the Acme yesterday almost everyone was wearing some sort of mask. There was one guy who was looking at everyone else like we were crazy.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:58:23pm

This is insane.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:59:23pm

re: #102 jaunte

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How’s that jive with the supposed states’ rights position of the right?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:59:51pm

re: #87 jaunte

Nothing in that post says the boxes are occupied.

It’s inferred. It looked weird to me as well.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 12:59:59pm

re: #105 DesertDenizen

It’s in the cornfield, too.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:00:46pm

re: #103 PhillyPretzel

I am not surprised. When I went to the Acme yesterday almost everyone was wearing some sort of mask. There was one guy who was looking at everyone else like we were crazy.

I had a mask made from a bandanna and two rubber bands when I was grocery shopping Wednesday. More for the comfort of the other customers than feeling I was protecting myself/others. The glove, OTOH, were in my opinion a more useful protective device and I saw very few people using those.

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:01:07pm

re: #105 DesertDenizen

How’s that jive with the supposed states’ rights position of the right?

That only applies when the President (and/or Senate majority) are Republican.

ETA: Oops. I meant States’ Rights only matter when Democrats are running the federal govt.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:01:34pm

re: #105 DesertDenizen

How’s that jive with the supposed states’ rights position of the right?

Perfectly well. States’ Rights only applies when and where the conservatives want it to.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:01:52pm

re: #107 jaunte

I meant how is his inferred ability to override governor’s orders supposed to jive with the state’s rights mantra they claim to espouse.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:02:02pm

Sean Hannity’s astounding coronavirus hypocrisy
Media Matters going after Mr Hanky

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:02:23pm

re: #108 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I had a mask made from a bandanna and two rubber bands when I was grocery shopping Wednesday. More for the comfort of the other customers than feeling I was protecting myself/others. The glove, OTOH, were in my opinion a more useful protective device and I saw very few people using those.

The good latex gloves are hard to find; I considered using dishwashing gloves, but they don’t fit well. So I’m just using my regular cold-weather gloves.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:02:53pm

re: #50 Hecuba’s daughter

They just want private companies to take over the mails and charge a fortune.

See, that’s not even the real problem. Privatized services might be more or less expensive than public services.

But public services have a duty of universal access that privatized services don’t. Even when privatized services have an “obligation” to provide the same service they usually find a way to weasel out of it.

Privatization can work, in some special cases. The privatization of French mobile telephony and internet access has been a triumph.

But privatization of real natural monopolies and mostly public service organizations is always a disaster.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:02:57pm

He’s been going for two hours and still no sign of stopping.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:02:58pm

re: #111 DesertDenizen

I understand. He doesn’t recognize any authority that conflicts with his own.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:03:10pm

Quarantine has turned me into a fiend so I got another ounce of shake. Curbside pick up, bless California.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:04:02pm

re: #110 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Perfectly well. States’ Rights only applies when and where the conservatives want it to.

Works that way on a local level too. Phoenix screams States’ Rights/local control but has passed extremely draconian laws overriding any local control the AG doesn’t like. It’s absurd in its hypocrisy.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:04:20pm

re: #113 sagehen

The good latex gloves are hard to find; I considered using dishwashing gloves, but they don’t fit well. So I’m just using my regular cold-weather gloves.

I found a box of latex gloves I’d bought previously to use while applying finish to wood furniture. Enough for 3-4 shopping trips. I probably have a set of dishwashing gloves somewhere as well.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:04:27pm

re: #118 DesertDenizen

Same in Texas.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:05:23pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

He’s been going for two hours and still no sign of stopping.

He’s listening to his favorite speaker….

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:06:52pm

re: #75 Patricia Kayden

Q

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DesertDenizen  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:07:13pm

re: #120 jaunte

Here, if the AG thinks your local law isn’t in line with state law (with huge numbers of preemption clauses) you lose your state shared revenue. Your own tax dollars get given to other communities. My city almost lost our own tax dollars over a plastic bag ban a few years back, which was the impetus for this nonsense thievery of our own dollars to blackmail us into compliance.

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EPR-radar  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:07:59pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

He’s been going for two hours and still no sign of stopping.

‘president’ Satan’s Anus has the runs.

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:08:21pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

Quarantine has turned me into a fiend so I got another ounce of shake. Curbside pick up, bless California.

I hear ya. I got a pickle jar of nice buds from my BiL just before we got to virus-land. That would usually last me a good four months, but I’m just about halfway through it already.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:08:26pm

re: #114 John Hughes

See, that’s not even the real problem. Privatized services might be more or less expensive than public services.

But public services have a duty of universal access that privatized services don’t. Even when privatized services have an “obligation” to provide the same service they usually find a way to weasel out of it.

Privatization can work, in some special cases. The privatization of French mobile telephony and internet access has been a triumph.

But privatization of real natural monopolies and mostly public service organizations is always a disaster.

The scope and rural spread of the United States creates a real have and have-not split when it comes to privatized utilities. For instance Anymouse’s description of internet access in rural Nebraska. Or that there are lots of rural areas with really poor cell phone access. Some services have to remain public in the US simply so that universal access is provided, otherwise a sort of “separate, but equal” will just creep in as privatized services attempt to maintain profitability.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:08:40pm

re: #113 sagehen

I found boxes of latex free gloves at Kroger when I went yesterday, 50 gloves for 4.99. They were labeled for food prep, in the aisle with the mops, brooms and cleaning stuff(the bit they had). They fit well and don’t tear too easy.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:08:52pm
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unproven innocence  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:08:59pm

re: #111 DesertDenizen

I meant how is his inferred ability to override governor’s orders supposed to jive with the state’s rights mantra they claim to espouse.

Doublethink. —1984, Orwell

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:09:10pm

re: #97 Patricia Kayden

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Ok, I was walking by the TV and heard something like that, but didn’t have to context and didn’t want to call Adams out for shaming. WTF.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:09:13pm

re: #1 Omar Comin’ Yo

It’s a Good Friday to see your tax returns you sociopathic bag of phlegm.

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So, Trump’s holding a presser, and it’s been going on for what, almost 2 hours.

How many Americans have died of covid19 during this presser, because he’s busy yammering away about his ratings, how great the economy will be later this year when the quarantines are lifted, etc., all while ignoring that we still haven’t gotten the entire country shut down and JP Morgan is predicting unemployment rate will hit 20% and economy will shrink by 40%.

It’s not going to rebound quickly, so it doesn’t matter that the stock market jumped a bunch this week. Millionaires are looking for someplace to park their money. Doesn’t matter that thousands are dying. It’s the ss/dd.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:09:29pm

re: #81 DesertDenizen

Here in rural Arizona most of the last mile is done by USPS. I occasionally see UPS and FedEx, but mainly for large or expensive [ higher margin ] items

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:09:45pm

re: #126 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The scope and rural spread of the United States creates a real have and have-not split when it comes to privatized utilities. For instance Anymouse’s description of internet access in rural Nebraska. Or that there are lots of rural areas with really poor cell phone access. Some services have to remain public in the US simply so that universal access is provided, otherwise a sort of “separate, but equal” will just creep in as privatized services attempt to maintain profitability.

How long would it have taken to get power lines strung through the midwest without FDR’s Rural Electrification Act?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:10:06pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

He’s been going for two hours and still no sign of stopping.

Has the DC Press Corpse started to shout “Lock Her Up” yet?

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EPR-radar  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:11:29pm

re: #126 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The scope and rural spread of the United States creates a real have and have-not split when it comes to privatized utilities. For instance Anymouse’s description of internet access in rural Nebraska. Or that there are lots of rural areas with really poor cell phone access. Some services have to remain public in the US simply so that universal access is provided, otherwise a sort of “separate, but equal” will just creep in as privatized services attempt to maintain profitability.

This is why it took Federal action to get most of the US rural areas electrified. Since then, residents of these areas have disproportionately embraced stupid right-wing ‘government is always evil’ crap.

Taking away their electricity is damn tempting.

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:12:29pm

re: #131 lawhawk

So, Trump’s holding a presser, and it’s been going on for what, almost 2 hours.

How many Americans have died of covid19 during this presser, because he’s busy yammering away about his ratings, how great the economy will be later this year when the quarantines are lifted, etc.,

1800 per day is 75 per hour.

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EPR-radar  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:14:11pm

re: #136 sagehen

1800 per day is 75 per hour.

Thanks, Trump. The US really couldn’t have done this without you.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:14:29pm

re: #87 jaunte

So many have died, that the dead are shoved into cardboard boxes and left on the streets to be loaded onto stinking flatbed trucks in the tropical heatre: #106 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s inferred. It looked weird to me as well.

Oh, fuck, you woke my inner pedant.

ITYM implied

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:15:39pm

re: #133 sagehen

How long would it have taken to get power lines strung through the midwest without FDR’s Rural Electrification Act?

They would still be talking on cranked telephones by oil-lamp light.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:17:50pm

re: #131 lawhawk

My wife has had to continue to work at her office for the state in Harrisburg. They are now about to institute a work from home list. My wife thinks she’s on it. I hope so. Because I’m about nutzed the fuck out here. But that is next week, and still every trip to the office is the odds getting larger. My daughter is working from home here, she would normally be in Philly, but they have sense.
Seen a lot of shit in my day.
This beats all.
I say the NFL season is shot, just for a what I think.
This is an event that will reverberate for years.
I hold so many people in complete and utter contempt, I spit constantly.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:17:58pm

re: #135 EPR-radar

This is why it took Federal action to get most of the US rural areas electrified. Since then, residents of these areas have disproportionately embraced stupid right-wing ‘government is always evil’ crap.

Taking away their electricity is damn tempting.

There’s a local community that relies entirely on federal assistance to get utilities because 1500 people aren’t otherwise worth it, and they are extremely right wing Anti government.

To further peg the irony meter, they declare themselves a “Second Amendment City” when their biggest claim to fame is a gunfight caused by some chaps refusing to obey local gun control ordinances enforced by the local icons. Bonus holdings to anyone who figures out this hotbed of conservative hypocrisy.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:17:58pm

re: #139 Jay C

And using buckets for water.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:18:11pm

re: #119 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I found a box of latex gloves I’d bought previously to use while applying finish to wood furniture. Enough for 3-4 shopping trips. I probably have a set of dishwashing gloves somewhere as well.

Don’t use latex gloves. They can start allergic reactions to latex (in which case kiss your condoms goodbye). You want nitrile gloves. Bio is good for food, not PPE.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:19:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:20:11pm

I can’t get over the fact that a president of the US thinks a virus is a wily, brilliant, whip-smart invisible enemy.

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DesertDenizen  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:21:22pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

I can’t get over the fact that a president of the US thinks a virus is a wily, brilliant, whip-smart invisible enemy.

To be fair, it does have more brain power than he does.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:21:23pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

He probably heard it was smart to “personalize” the adversary.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:21:49pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:22:11pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Because it has disrupted his plans for his re-election. He wanted us back up and running by Easter and it is not happening.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:22:30pm

Making America Grieve Again

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:22:36pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Virus: 0 cells, therefore 0 brain cells

Trump: difficult to imagine how, but negative brain cells?

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:22:49pm

re: #144 goddamnedfrank

Do we really think that Neal Fucking Boortz will say, “Well, you got me there!”, when you pointed that out?
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A Mom Anon  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:23:31pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

Compared to him, the virus is a genius. So is dog shit, but why quibble at this point?

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:23:33pm

Driftglass: This November, Vote the Rats Back into the Sewer!

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:24:52pm

A competent government would step in.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:25:18pm

re: #150 Omar Comin’ Yo

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:26:41pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

I can’t get over the fact that a president of the US thinks a virus is a wily, brilliant, whip-smart invisible enemy.

He probably got that name from watching an old Outer Limits episode with Adam West!

dailymotion.com

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:27:06pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:27:47pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

I can’t get over the fact that a president of the US thinks a virus is a wily, brilliant, whip-smart invisible enemy.

Let’s get real here - the virus is orders of magnitude smarter than POTUS - after all, it’s done damage that even POTUS couldn’t have thought of….

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:28:09pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

I can’t get over the fact that a president of the US thinks a virus is a wily, brilliant, whip-smart invisible enemy.

That can outsmart antibiotics.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:29:11pm

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EPR-radar  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:29:13pm

re: #148 klys (maker of Silmarils)

That’s been true of every general election this century.

Which is why my contempt for real swing voters is second only to my contempt for Republicans.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:29:16pm

re: #155 jaunte

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A competent government would step in.

I should see if I can find a Twitter thread I read earlier today about milk dumping in Canada, which talks about how the issues here are not necessarily unwillingness to give but lack of processing capacity that will produce something the food banks can use. (E.g., most food banks aren’t set up to handle the same size tubs/containers that restaurant or institutional facilities purchase in, and retooling food processing lines is not trivial.)

I don’t know if that’s what’s going on here necessarily, but worth considering.

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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:31:21pm

re: #157 Joe Bacon 🌹

He probably got that name from watching an old Outer Limits episode with Adam West!

dailymotion.com

I’m sure he didn’t get it from the Seaon Fifteen DOCTOR WHO episode that introduced K-9 and featured the Doctor and Leela doing a FANTASTIC VOYAGE riff in their battle against the Virus of the Swarm.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:33:56pm

re: #151 John Hughes

Virus: 0 cells, therefore 0 brain cells

Trump: difficult to imagine how, but negative brain cells?

He gets near you, he kills yours.

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:34:57pm

re: #142 PhillyPretzel

I remember reading in one volume of Robert Caro’s bio of Lyndon Johnson about the way most people had to live in the Texas Hill Country (LBJ’s home district) right into the mid-1930s: without electricity - because it was unprofitable for private utilities to run lines out to the sticks - as Caro put it, (IIRC) either “19th Century” or “medieval” adjusting for cultural reference.
Of course, having a pushy Congressman badgering the government to back the financing for such a project didn’t hurt: but yeah, there was reason why some New Deal initiatives has such long-lasting political influence in so much of the country.
(And, of course, as long as they were designed to benefit Real Americans, and not Those People…)

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:35:35pm

re: #165 Eventual Carrion

People who I know ask me if I watched DT. I tell them I do not because he destroys grey matter.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:37:25pm

Fuck Trump…..

AP: Trump feels no need for crisis counsel from predecessors

WASHINGTON (AP) — President George W. Bush turned to one of the world’s most exclusive clubs for help raising money after an Indian Ocean tsunami killed more than 200,000 people in 2004.

He paired his father, George H.W. Bush, and the man who defeated him to win the presidency in 1992, Bill Clinton. It worked so well that he signed the duo up again after Hurricane Katrina ravaged New Orleans less than a year later.

President Barack Obama followed the same playbook and sent Clinton and the younger Bush off on a fundraising effort for Haiti after a devastating earthquake in 2010.

Not President Donald Trump, who has no plans to seek his predecessors’ counsel during the coronavirus pandemic, a complex crisis with profound public health and economic consequences.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:38:42pm

There went Trump claiming that antibiotics can stop a viral infection. And that virus is real smart too:

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:40:31pm

re: #163 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I finally found the thread. (…ironically, from someone bitching that he doesn’t show enough empathy over the poor cows. Which …okay…)

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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:44:09pm

I have no cable and Anymouse style rural internet from CenturyLink, so I avoid trying to stream video while my wife is trying to videoconference with students and fellow faculty. Has Trump finished yet, because when I tried the Big Three on OTA broadcast telly about a half hour back, they were still showing their regular programming.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:45:49pm

re: #171 A Three Hour Tour

I would not know. I am watching Pride and Prejudice (1995). :)

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unproven innocence  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:47:03pm

re: #155 jaunte

A competent government would step in.

Or some tax dodger like Al Capone. Oh. Nevermind.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:48:12pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:50:02pm

re: #172 PhillyPretzel

I would not know. I am watching Pride and Prejudice (1995). :)

I’m watching “Rise of the Cybermen,” myself.

With Anymouse-internet, you’re prying my physical media from my cold, dead hands.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:50:02pm

Put this on loud and float through the house…………yard………….street………..

Stay safe.

Rose Royce - I Wanna Get Next To You

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:52:12pm

re: #170 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I finally found the thread. (…ironically, from someone bitching that he doesn’t show enough empathy over the poor cows. Which …okay…)

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from the replies to that thread:

but of course:

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”
— Arthur C. Clarke

also, Clarke’s First Law:

When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:52:29pm

Have you seen the Maiers?

Your laugh of the day. Her expression (or lack of) is so funny. They have to have incredible strength to do this. The highlight of the traditional circus acts is Die Maiers, a German duo of clowns. Theo Sabine Maier, dressed in a fussy maid’s outfit with an inextricable small purse, does one of the best deadpan acts since Buster Keaton, and she’s joined by her geeky-looking husband Joachim Mohr to perform the funniest and most surprising trapeze act within memory. LA Stage Times

Die Maiers- trapeze

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stpaulbear  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:53:55pm

re: #103 PhillyPretzel

I am not surprised. When I went to the Acme yesterday almost everyone was wearing some sort of mask. There was one guy who was looking at everyone else like we were crazy.

Daughter calls dad on his cell phone: “Dad, I just heard that someone’s driving the wrong way on Highway 8! Be careful!!”
Dad: “One?! There’s hundreds of them!!

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:54:06pm

re: #178 retired cynic

Have you seen the Maiers?

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Video

NB: I got a “can’t play this video” notice upon clicking….

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:56:24pm

Just got back from a grocery pickup run. Talk about easy. I ordered last Friday, picked up today. Kudos to the employees at Ralphs. I like this setup, never a fan of shopping anyway. No line, no cashiers, nobody too close.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:56:43pm

re: #172 PhillyPretzel

I would not know. I am watching Pride and Prejudice (1995). :)

I was way too busy picking my nose. Vastly more interesting than listening to the moron spew off the cuff insanities.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:58:14pm

re: #171 A Three Hour Tour

Iwhen I tried the Big Three on OTA broadcast telly about a half hour back, they were still showing their regular programming.

You lucky sod.

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:59:01pm

re: #180 Jay C

Click “watch on vimeo”

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stpaulbear  Apr 10, 2020 • 1:59:27pm

re: #119 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I found a box of latex gloves I’d bought previously to use while applying finish to wood furniture. Enough for 3-4 shopping trips. I probably have a set of dishwashing gloves somewhere as well.

I knew I’d bought a box of gloves about a year ago but couldn’t find them. I finally realized I’d donated them to the Animal Humane Society with a bunch of of other stuff when my cat Halley passed away last May. If I want gloves from Amazon, it’ll be six weeks.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:01:23pm

re: #177 sagehen

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”
— Arthur C. Clarke

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo.

(or, if you prefer, strapped chicken).

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:02:17pm

re: #184 retired cynic

Click “watch on vimeo”

I do hope people can watch, as they are so quietly funny, and were just the lift I needed today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:03:42pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:04:54pm

re: #185 stpaulbear

I knew I’d bought a box of gloves about a year ago but couldn’t find them. I finally realized I’d donated them to the Animal Humane Society with a bunch of of other stuff when my cat Halley passed away last May. If I want gloves from Amazon, it’ll be six weeks.

Gloves are tough to do correctly, because if the gloves get contaminated, what do you touch with your gloves on?

Just do your business, wash your hands thoroughly. Don’t touch your face. Try not to use the phone. Better yet, don’t go out, have stuff delivered.

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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:05:07pm

re: #183 John Hughes

You lucky sod.

The reason why I asked was that I was wondering if the Big Three had abandoned the Trumpian “Dear Leader” Potemkin Pressers, leaving them to the 24/7 cable news nets.

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stpaulbear  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:06:35pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

I can’t get over the fact that a president of the US thinks a virus is a wily, brilliant, whip-smart invisible enemy.

He needs to tell people that it’s smart in order for him to feel like less of a fool in his own head.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:06:43pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think that if the evening news would play all of those answers in sequence, it would actually get quite a few WTF from people not otherwise paying close enough attention.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:07:07pm

re: #179 stpaulbear

Daughter calls dad on his cell phone: “Dad, I just heard that someone’s driving the wrong way on Highway 8! Be careful!!”
Dad: “One?! There’s hundreds of them!!

My grandfather once drove 50 miles down a Swiss motorway on the wrong side in a camper van. For the last 45 miles he had a police escort.

“Oh, you’re from the UK (Scotland), no problem, please pay more attention in future”.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:08:00pm

re: #163 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Soup kitchens and organizations like Jose Andres’ World Central Kitchen could feed a lot of people with that.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:08:08pm

Nils Lofgren just followed me on Twitter.
I’m a happy boy.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:08:24pm

re: #185 stpaulbear

No good deed goes unpunished,

(I first wrote No good dead goes unpunished, which is macabre and wrong).

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:12:18pm

re: #184 retired cynic

Click “watch on vimeo”

I did, and thanks: extremely entertaining.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:13:11pm

re: #100 jaunte

You could die of disgust, just watching tv.

This is why I watch Gov. Beshear and not Trump. Beshear never disgusts me.

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fern01  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:13:16pm

re: #1 Omar Comin’ Yo

It’s a Good Friday to see your tax returns you sociopathic bag of phlegm.

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Just another tweet to show the 100% lack of knowledge of the boss deplorable. In the Christian calendar, Good Friday is a day of mourning & sadness - it is not a day you go around wishing people a “happy day”.

The religious right have proved their own lack of faith and honesty with their support of this man who was an atheist in the past, atheist now. He sees himself as the High Priest of the USA and would, no doubt, be a devout Muslim, Hindu or whatever, depending on where he lived.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:14:28pm

Please tell me The Heinous Anus finally shut up.

Please!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:16:21pm

re: #111 DesertDenizen

I meant how is his inferred ability to override governor’s orders supposed to jive with the state’s rights mantra they claim to espouse.

SHUT UP! That’s how.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:16:58pm

re: #126 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The scope and rural spread of the United States […]

Ow, here we go with the exceptionalism again.

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:20:10pm

re: #187 retired cynic

I do hope people can watch, as they are so quietly funny, and were just the lift I needed today.

That was great. Talk about your total deadpan.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:24:17pm

you know that expanding foam that comes in a can?

Great Stuff

well it isn’t

if it actually got the job done and sealed everything (we’ll know tomorrow) at best it’s Meh Stuff

mostly it’s very Messy Stuff

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:24:19pm

re: #111 DesertDenizen

I meant how is his inferred ability to override governor’s orders supposed to jive with the state’s rights mantra they claim to espouse.

Ah, fuck. ITYM implied.

Roughly speaking, if you’re not Sherlock Holmes you mean implied.

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:24:50pm

re: #203 makeitstop

That was great. Talk about your total deadpan.

I don’t see how she managed it! So good.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:26:19pm

Idiot Trumper on my FB: “We’d have 5 million dead by now if Hillary was President!”

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:26:36pm

One (Last?) Post About Hillary, by mrswhatsit on hecatedemeter

In the same week that St. Bernard of the Snows FINALLY acknowledged reality and dropped out of the 2020 Democratic presidential primary (sort of, and if he rat fucks us AGAIN I will NOT be held responsible for my actions), I finally sat down to watch Hulu’s four-part documentary on Hillary Clinton.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:27:12pm

So, does anybody think The Mandalorian is worth it? Three episodes in and I’m ready to dump my 7 day free trial.

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:27:18pm

re: #208 retired cynic

I swear, I didn’t plan to follow Eclectic Cyborg’s post about Hillary with mine about Hillary! Honest!

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DesertDenizen  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:29:11pm

re: #205 John Hughes

Ah, fuck. ITYM implied.

Roughly speaking, if you’re not Sherlock Holmes you mean implied.

You, sir are correct. While I’ve had the honor of portraying the great detective several times, I am, alas, not he.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:30:47pm
A study by the University of Bonn has tested a randomized sample of 1,000 residents of the town of Gangelt (an epicenter of the outbreak in Germany) and found that 2% of the population was currently infected and 14% were carrying antibodies suggesting that they had already been infected — whether or not they experienced any symptoms. Eliminating an overlap between the two groups, the team concluded that 15% of the town have been infected with the virus

[…]

Data from coronavirus deaths in Gangelt suggests an infection mortality rate of 0.37 percent, significantly below the 0.9 percent which Imperial College has estimated, or the 0.66 percent found in a revised study last week.

Ok, the problem is the article is from the Spectator, which tries hard to draw conclusions that fit their expectations. The Gangelt community is in the middle of the hardest hit region of Germany, on the border with Belgium (which also has been hit very hard.) So in other parts of Germany, say on the east, the infection history is probably different than Gangelt.

I’m looking for the actual UofBonn release info but have not yet found it.

But if, say, a major US city with high case rates can be thought of as a parallel to Gangelt, then in these areas around one sixth of the population have been exposed already. Then in other regions not yet so heavily impacted the infection rate will be less.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:31:01pm

re: #209 John Hughes

So, does anybody think The Mandalorian is worth it? Three episodes in and I’m ready to dump my 7 day free trial.

Most people I’ve heard from say yes, it’s worth it.

But there’s always at least one person that will find something not to their liking.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:31:41pm

re: #160 Barefoot Grin

That can outsmart antibiotics.

Viruses laugh at antibiotics, after all they’re not alive! Bwahaha! Attack of the zombie killers!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:33:51pm

The release news was yesterday:

Blood tests show 14% of people are now immune to covid-19 in one town in Germany

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:36:27pm

Cheryl Rofer has an article up talking about herd immunity: balloon-juice.com. By her reading, it will take something between 70-90% of the population to develop an immunity to the coronavirus before we get it under control.

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:36:49pm

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

Idiot Trumper on my FB: “We’d have 5 million dead by now if Hillary was President!”

I don’t suppose said Trumper might have any reasoning to back up such a sweeping claim? “Reasoning” of course, meaning something other than a tsunami of derp featuring Deep State pedophile sex-rings illegally vaccinating hapless Americans via 5G brainwave implants, or whatever….

All financed by George Soros of course…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:37:11pm

Beshear said we are down to 7 churches having in person services Sunday. Said that license plates will be photographed at mass gatherings, and participants notified that they are under quarantine for 14 days.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:38:09pm

re: #217 Jay C

I don’t suppose said Trumper might have any reasoning to back up such a sweeping claim? “Reasoning” of course, meaning something other than a tsunami of derp featuring Deep State pedophile sex-rings illegally vaccinating hapless Americans via 5G brainwave implants, or whatever….

They don’t use reason.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:38:16pm

re: #218 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Beshear said we are down to 7 churches having in person services Sunday. Said that license plates will be photographed at mass gatherings, and participants notified that they are under quarantine for 14 days.

He’s a lot nicer than I would be. I’d build walls around the churches after they show up.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:39:59pm

re: #166 Jay C

I read the 1960’s 1970’s Whole Earth Catalogwhich was still talking about how to get electricity to undeserved rural areas.

Full disclosure — I was living on an English farm that didn’t have grid electricity at the time…

Not too far from 50°10’47.0”N 5°35’20.5”W, but not exactly there.

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fern01  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:40:22pm

re: #131 lawhawk

So, Trump’s holding a presser, and it’s been going on for what, almost 2 hours.

He is holding a campaign rally - without having to travel anywhere or pretend he likes the people attending. Win:Win

Nothing like the US media to give him free air time.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:41:29pm

re: #215 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Yeah, but are they actually “Immune”? I’m also hearing some Korean data regarding a refire in some recovered patients.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:43:12pm

re: #223 Dave In Austin

Yeah, but are they actually “Immune”? I’m also hearing some Korean data regarding a refire in some recovered patients.

There’s some doubts on that study, because determining when they are rid of the virus seems to be suspect at this point.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:43:38pm

German outlet has more information:

Criticism and doubts about study from Heinsberg

The results of the study from Gangelt in North Rhine-Westphalia are probably falsified by methodological errors.

The study was to show that herd immunity to Sars-CoV-2 is beginning in NRW.

Prime Minister Laschet had promised to relax the measures against the virus because of the study .

The hope had been great. Finally data, finally clues from a scientific study: When researchers from the University of Bonn came to the press with Armin Laschet, Prime Minister of North Rhine-Westphalia, on Thursday and presented apparently groundbreaking results from the corona-plagued district of Heinsberg , it didn’t take long for him media cheers broke out. “Relaxation possible,” “15 percent immune,” was the urgent headline.

But the cheering is obviously more than premature. There have been great doubts about the quality of the study and its interim results. Independent experts expressed criticism on Thursday, especially regarding the presentation of the results at a press conference. “There is just so little explanation that you don’t understand everything,” commented the virologist Christian Drosten from the Berlin Charité, who is one of the most experienced corona virus experts internationally.

Study leader Hendrik Streeck had previously said at the conference that a representative sample in Gangelt had shown that 15 percent of the people there had already had an infection. […]

But the study does not actually yield that. It is probably even methodologically incorrect. Above all, it is unclear whether the antibody test used can show what it is supposed to have shown, namely immunity to the new virus. The Braunschweig infection epidemiologist Gérard Krause from the Helmholtz Institute for Infection Research had already told the Süddeutsche Zeitung a few days ago that there were currently no widely available tests that could reliably demonstrate immunity to Sars-CoV-2.

On Thursday after the press conference, the virologist Drosten also referred to the problem that some of the tests already available detect antibodies against completely harmless colds, which are also corona viruses. “We are now just a month after the end of the cold season,” said Drosten. According to the Helmholtz Institute, a third of the colds are caused by these four known, harmless corona viruses. After a positive antibody test, only time-consuming neutralization tests have so far shown that the person in question actually went through an infection with the new pandemic pathogen. At the PK in Gangelt, however, there was no question of such neutralization tests.

Streeck and his colleagues from the University of Bonn nevertheless come to the conclusion that they have demonstrated with high specificity that herdsmen from Gangel begin to immunity to flocks. At least that’s what it says in a short paper that is available to the Süddeutsche Zeitung and that summarizes the interim results very roughly. On Thursday, it was initially available on the website of the state government of North Rhine-Westphalia. In the evening, however, the one-and-a-half-page document was initially no longer available at the link provided, and only reappeared on Friday under a new web address. However, another serious problem becomes apparent from the paper, which does not even come close to the requirements of scientific documentation as a preliminary publication.

For example, Streeck’s team selected households for the tests and tested all people in these households. This is legitimate so far - however: “You should not take all the results from these households and convert them into percent, but at most one person per household,” explained epidemiologist Krause on Thursday. The reason: within the household the risk of infection is many times higher than in the general population, a complete count of all family members therefore results in an excessive percentage for immunity, which cannot be transferred to the general public. But that’s exactly what was done in Streeck’s study.

Why did the Bonn researchers go public shortly before Easter with these incomplete results? Streeck said at the time online that after Easter it should be decided what to do with the measures. Now, however, criticism of his project is growing - and it may not be limited to the scientific aspects.

[…]

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:43:47pm

I’m getting better reassurances from Geico and Toyota by email (we got a certified pre-owned RAV last year) than I am from the President.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:43:57pm

re: #222 fern01

He is holding a campaign rally - without having to travel anywhere or pretend he likes the people attending. Win:Win

Nothing like the US media to give him free air time.

Is it possible that they are giving Trump enough rope to hang himself? Letting America see just how unbalanced Trump is?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:44:32pm

re: #221 John Hughes

I read the 1960’s 1970’s Whole Earth Catalogwhich was still talking about how to get electricity to undeserved rural areas.

Full disclosure — I was living on an English farm that didn’t have grid electricity at the time…

Not too far from 50°10’47.0”N 5°35’20.5”W, but not exactly there.

my eastern Kentucky farm didn’t get electricity until the 1960s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:45:55pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

my eastern Kentucky farm didn’t get electricity until the 1960s

we’re still waiting on paved roads

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:46:34pm

re: #213 Belafon

I’m going withEl Graun’s take so far — 21’st century Xena Warrior Princess without Lucy Lawles or Renee O’Connor.

Jar-Jar Mk2 leaves me cold.

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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:47:47pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

we’re still waiting on paved roads

Overrated. Except when you gotta get somewhere.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:48:16pm

re: #216 Belafon

Yay! 70-90% get immunity. What, 1-2% die? No probs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:48:24pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:48:34pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

That. Is. Not. A. Metric.

We’re all going to die. We are not fighting an intelligent thing.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:48:40pm

re: #224 Belafon

There’s some doubts on that study, because determining when they are rid of the virus seems to be suspect at this point.

Everything is suspect at this point. And personally, I think is going to take a year of intense pain and death before this even starts to settle out.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:49:55pm

re: #218 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Beshear said we are down to 7 churches having in person services Sunday. Said that license plates will be photographed at mass gatherings, and participants notified that they are under quarantine for 14 days.

What’s the matter? Stock of flamethrowers in same state as stock of ventilators>?

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:51:25pm

I just turned on my phone after work, Nd got a message that Rockwall has five new cases, on top of the four from yesterday. The ages today range from the 20s to the 50s.

I think we’re approaching the numbers where we could get a death soon.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:51:38pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

Huh? We are in the middle of a health crisis where staying at home can help stop this virus and McConnell is talking about religious freedom being infringed on.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:52:00pm

re: #234 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That. Is. Not. A. Metric.

We’re all going to die. We are not fighting an intelligent thing.

Nope, we’re fighting Trump.

/

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:52:35pm

re: #224 Belafon

There’s some doubts on that study, because determining when they are rid of the virus seems to be suspect at this point.

The problems with the study:
1) not been reviewed;
2) is based on only one region;
3) tests everyone in the household of a positive, thus biased towards household sizes and regional idiosyncrasies wrt household sizes;
4) uncertainty if the antibodies tested are really SARS-Cov-2 antibodies or detects other coronavirus antibodies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:53:56pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:54:55pm

It is April 10 and Philly has a freeze warning in the suburbs. Classic spring weather in Philly.
weather.gov

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:55:14pm

re: #227 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Is it possible that they are giving Trump enough rope to hang himself? Letting America see just how unbalanced Trump is?

Far too forward thinking. I would like it to be such, but I am a cynic, nay a pessimist, nay a borderline nihilist.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:57:22pm

re: #239 Eclectic Cyborg

Nope, we’re fighting Trump.

/

Well snarked, Sir.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:57:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:58:31pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:58:47pm

Beshear defending mayor of Louisville for banning drive up church services.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 2:59:11pm
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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:00:38pm

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker: Trump Has Caused a “Greater Number of Deaths Across the Country”
In a searing interview on Inside the Hive, the governor takes aim at the president for his flagrant mishandling of the pandemic: “It’s outrageous.”

Governor Pritzker has joined other Democratic leaders, including presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden, in asking Trump to take charge of coordinating the flow of medical supplies to states through the Defense Production Act, which allows the government to take control of private factories and produce and distribute supplies in an emergency. In a PBS interview on Monday, Pritzker confirmed that the federal government was shipping in supplies from China and handing them over to private companies to sell to the state that bid the highest.

“I mean, for me to go out and compete against California, New York, and countries outside of the United States to get the lifesaving equipment that we need—and, oh, by the way, I’m also competing against FEMA and the federal government—it’s outrageous,” Pritzker told me. “It’s outrageous.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:02:19pm

re: #249 retired cynic

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker: Trump Has Caused a “Greater Number of Deaths Across the Country”
In a searing interview on Inside the Hive, the governor takes aim at the president for his flagrant mishandling of the pandemic: “It’s outrageous.”

Trump is a grifter, so he will always embrace the opportunity to grift.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:02:53pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

my eastern Kentucky farm didn’t get electricity until the 1960s

You Jammy bastard. Like I said I was in Cornwall, UK, and we didn’t get grid electricity in the 1970’s.

We were about 1 mile away from the grid in two directions. Margaret Thatcher was the Prime Minister.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:03:04pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:04:01pm

re: #209 John Hughes

So, does anybody think The Mandalorian is worth it? Three episodes in and I’m ready to dump my 7 day free trial.

Good question. I just finished Star Trek Picard and Discovery season 1 and 2. Mandalorian was next on the list of binge watching.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:05:09pm

re: #209 John Hughes

So, does anybody think The Mandalorian is worth it? Three episodes in and I’m ready to dump my 7 day free trial.

I found the season got better at the later episodes. Even more true of Picard.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:05:10pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

1)wtf does “tough on China” mean?

2)doesn’t he know this woman named Ivanka that has a bunch of patents and business interests in, what’s the name of that big ass country in Asia?…oh yeah, CHINA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:06:52pm
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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:07:08pm

re: #131 lawhawk

So, Trump’s holding a presser, and it’s been going on for what, almost 2 hours….

he’s got plenty of time
it’s not like he does any work
ever

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:07:12pm

Illinois Covid-19 stats:
Friday 4/10 87,527 tested (6,670 new), 17,877 positive (1,455 new), 596 deaths (68 new)

Gov. Pritzker yesterday was saying he thought we were bending the curve, and it looks to me like it. Numbers are staying about the same, day to day. I’m keeping them all, and chart them occasionally. Chicago is so hard hit. My county still has 0 none. Next county over 10, with 1 death. That is staying fairly stable. Next county south has 2, where it has had none.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:07:23pm
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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:08:52pm

re: #255 A Mom Anon

1)wtf does “tough on China” mean?

Fallout — a post apocalyptical role playing game.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:09:44pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:09:52pm
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cat-tikvah  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:10:58pm

re: #220 Belafon

He’s a lot nicer than I would be. I’d build walls around the churches after they show up.

Or just lock them in the church. I assume God will provide.

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John Hughes  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:12:20pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

Object persistence — it’s hard. Some humans, for example Donald Trump, have problems with it.

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NetworkKed  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:12:59pm

When someone says new cases are flattening (the raw numbers nationally have been…), look to see if the numbers of tests conducted are flat.

Today’s national testing number is up about 20k, which is a good sign, but it’s been flat for a week.

We can hope that the curve is going linear, but there is insufficient data.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:13:37pm

re: #172 PhillyPretzel

I would not know. I am watching Pride and Prejudice (1995). :)

Seems like you have that and Downton Abbey playing on a continuous loop. And I approve. 😊

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:15:19pm

re: #266 Teddy’s Person

I will be starting Downton Abbey on Monday. I was watching PBS travel shows this week. Rick Steves and Rudy Maxa.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:16:30pm
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NetworkKed  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:16:44pm

re: #265 NetworkKed

When someone says new cases are flattening (the raw numbers nationally have been…), look to see if the numbers of tests conducted are flat.

Today’s national testing number is up about 20k, which is a good sign, but it’s been flat for a week.

We can hope that the curve is going linear, but there is insufficient data.

Oh, and the pattern is that the incremental afternoon/evening numbers tend to add new cases without the fivefold increment in testing which the overall pattern has shown, so I don’t know if new cases are being held until the positives are notified or if someone is holding back the scales until after business hours.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:18:06pm
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Florida Panhandler  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:20:08pm

re: #83 unproven innocence

As of this hour, the model (apparently) still assumes “success” for social-distancing and other human behavioral modifications, in halting or greatly reducing rates of new infections, such that total # infected does not exceed 3% of the population(s) in the very near-future. You will not see 3% mentioned explicitly, but 97% is there, in black and white, in the FAQ:
Length of the epidemic

Italics & bolding added.

The real pandemic begins this cold/flu season later this year, starting September. It’s going to be really bad. If schools are in session by some sort of EO, it will be catastrophic. The only good thing is by then Tesla, Gm, etc will have built thousands of ventilators. We will need them.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:21:51pm

re: #222 fern01

He is holding a campaign rally - without having to travel anywhere or pretend he likes the people attending. Win:Win

Nothing like the US media to give him free air time.

The Press Corpse is hell bent on keeping Trump in office because he brings in the advertising $$$.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:30:48pm

re: #272 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Press Corpse is hell bent on keeping Trump in office because he brings in the advertising $$$.

This is an easy explanation, but I really don’t think it’s quite that simple. On sheer numbers, there are more city dwellers than rural, yet the whole of US culture, as defined by its largest media sources, insists on pretending that the city people are not ‘real’, rather than directing resources towards empowering and enfolding them within this culture. If it were just about following the money, there’s more money to be made by increasing your market to include more and more people, rather than engaging in a culture war that harms and impoverishes many for the financial benefit of a few rich people and the emotional support of angry white people.

So I don’t think it’s money. Rather, I think that the point is as I just said - the goal of those who direct the media narratives is the financial benefit of a few rich people and the emotional and cultural validation of angry white people. That’s it. Making more profit would involve compromising one or both of those goals.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:36:52pm

Idiotic take from brainwashed RWNJ

Wonder what the line will be in 2 weeks when Florida & Texas start getting hit the way NYC has been…?

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:39:49pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

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At this point, the facts don’t really matter. One of the hallmarks of Republican electioneering is giving their voters a large target upon which they can pin all of the party’s fears/failures. In the past two elections, that big boogeyman has been China and how we need to not only “defeat” them, but elect Republicans who are all about our need to “defeat” them.

Of course, the unspoken reality that Donny is desperate to make a trade pact with China in order to secure some form of “legacy,” something Republicans have been all about when they’re not shit-talking China, is to be magically ignored except where his failure to do so is portrayed as liberals wishing for America to fail.

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:40:29pm

yahoo.com

The Krazy is being turned up once again during this pandemic with full-on banana republic Trump prosecutors testing the political waters. Of course most people realize these charges aren’t going anywhere once the Discovery phase approaches. But of course the point is to ratfuck Biden and Democrats in general and continue ratfucking all the way up to and even past the election.

Because once Trump ends up losing, he will start a disinformation campaign to attempt to render the election void because of “rigging”. The media must not fall for this latest Barr toungue-licking of Trump’s corrupt anus.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:41:39pm

Because 18,000 American deaths are apparently funny to these Republican ghouls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:42:38pm

he ain’t seen the real mobilization yet.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:44:08pm

re: #274 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Idiotic take from brainwashed RWNJ

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Wonder what the line will be in 2 weeks when Florida & Texas start getting hit the way NYC has been…?

I believe Florida will simply lie about its deaths. I have already heard some reports that Florida is not testing people who present close to death and thus not counting that death as a virus death. There is a significant discrepancy right now between Florida’s reported case load and its death rate - states with similar population density and similar case numbers have far more deaths, and I see no reason to believe that Florida is somehow doing a better job at keeping patients alive. Perhaps they are simply luckier, like Washington state has been.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:44:21pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

He is still talking? How many hours has it been?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:44:54pm

re: #274 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Idiotic take from brainwashed RWNJ

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Wonder what the line will be in 2 weeks when Florida & Texas start getting hit the way NYC has been…?

Karma will come for the fool who has such a crush on the third rate bunco artist in the Oval Office.

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:44:56pm

re: #277 DodgerFan1988

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Right wing humor is best exemplified by the 4th Grade bully stunt of one bully crouching behind the target and the other bully pushing him over.

Right wing humor is just a celebration of power and entitlement.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:45:27pm

re: #279 Renaissance_Man

Currently Florida has a reported higher deaths per capita from Covid-19 than does California.

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Jack Burton  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:47:37pm

re: #274 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

Idiotic take from brainwashed RWNJ

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Wonder what the line will be in 2 weeks when Florida & Texas start getting hit the way NYC has been…?

Every “political cartoon” I’ve seen by Ben Garrison is asininely and infuriatingly stupid or insulting. It should physically hurt to be either that dumb or dishonest.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:48:13pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

I can’t get over the fact that a president of the US thinks a virus is a wily, brilliant, whip-smart invisible enemy.

Both the CV virus and the president are fat bodies.

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:48:42pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

he ain’t seen the real mobilization yet.

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He hasn’t even reached a level of mobilization the likes of Korea, let alone WWII. If Trump had been around for WWII, he’d have been asking why we can’t be buddies with Hitler, criticizing Lend/Lease as “giving away” weapons and goods to Britain when we need them to be paying top dollar, claiming the reason Pearl Harbor happened is because the last Dem in office had left the military unarmed, criticizing the states when they ask for him to mobilize the military to respond to the attack, and making up various excuses for why he’s not ordering private industry to make weapons to arm the military he refuses to mobilize because he feels that’s the job of the states.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:49:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:50:07pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:50:35pm

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

I got one those the other day. It went straight into the shredder. If I need a mail in ballot I will get one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:50:53pm

re: #280 PhillyPretzel

He is still talking? How many hours has it been?

I have no idea.
that was something he retweeted

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:50:55pm

re: #277 DodgerFan1988

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Because 18,000 American deaths are apparently funny to these Republican ghouls.

What a goddamned piece of CENSORED!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:54:07pm

It’s rained all week here, the only week long rain this season (which starts in November.) Usually, if we have these train of storms, they come in March, but are late this year. Welcome nevertheless, as we’ve gotten over 4” this week.

Cut off low just west of San Diego, it’s been drifting west from Nevada for a couple of days.

The loquats are happy, so I’m happy.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:54:22pm

re: #89 A Mom Anon

Oh god. Now he’s saying he’s going to surround himself with the smartest people. But he really doesn’t need their input because he knows what’s going on “up here” and points to his head. Kill me.

That’s it, I can’t do it anymore. Bong hit time.

Fuck. I’ve been off the chronic for a solid 8 months now, and am still feeling tickly in the lungs, but if this shit keeps up, fuckit, I’m going to the dispensary.

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A Three Hour Tour  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:54:44pm

re: #280 PhillyPretzel

He is still talking? How many hours has it been?

The timestamp on that tweet looks to have been sent almost four hours ago.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:55:33pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:56:36pm

Is His Ass-Holeyness still farting?

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:58:02pm

re: #280 PhillyPretzel

He is still talking? How many hours has it been?

Distill it down to the worthy parts and we will have 18 seconds maybe.

Sanity maintenance here. Minimal input of the politics. Spending the time and energy getting better at the math involved with the models. Reading the studies. Watching the science like my wife and life depend on it. Oh wait they do. Lol.

Pretty sure Trump and his guys are mouthing a lot of bullshit aimed at keeping the base that is about to be hammered. The virus and the Governors are in charge. There is a consensus that the nightmare scenario is more about a second wave crippling a vulnerable recovery than staying closed a tad too long.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 10, 2020 • 3:58:44pm

re: #283 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Currently Florida has a reported higher deaths per capita from Covid-19 than does California.

Absolutely, but California locked down several weeks before. That early action flattened the curve and saved lives. Florida has similar cases to Illinois and Louisiana, but far fewer deaths. It has about 70% of the cases Michigan has yet only 33% of the deaths. I find it hard to believe that Florida’s laissez-faire approach gave it a better result.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:03:11pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:04:34pm

Evening Lizardim from the wild north country. It’s Drive-Thru Date Night here, and this week’s choice was Arby’s. 94 new cases brings us to 1,336; 1600 new tests brings us to 33,894. 7 new deaths bring us to 57. The Minnesota Department of Health released their internal model today, after pressure from Republicans (led by a family practitioner advertising himself as an expert). They have two claims: 1) The widespread belief that the virus was here as early as late fall, and thus, the majority of us are already immune; and 2) that the University of Washington/IHME model shows that we have enough equipment to handle the peak of the curve, so we should just turn the economy back on now and get it over with. Minnesota’s internal modeling is considerably more conservative, and even with the peak of infection pushed out to mid-June, we still expect to have 22,000 casualties in our fair state. It’ll be interesting to see how these deluded dickheads (and my family members, who have been spouting their misinformation on Facebook) handle this development. How go things among the lizardfolk on this quiet Good Friday?

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:07:19pm

re: #298 Renaissance_Man

They’re not testing enough to identify cases, and the post-mortem of the excess mortality in FL will find deaths far in excess of expected cases and the only difference is covid19.

Mark my words - the excess deaths will put it significantly above most other states.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:07:33pm

re: #300 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s as if your Republicans don’t read the banner at the top of the IHME website, which states clearly their model is based on the lockdowns continuing through May.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:07:46pm

LA County just extended “Safer At Home” thru 5/15.

la.curbed.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:09:34pm

re: #302 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s as if your Republicans don’t read the banner at the top of the IHME website, which states clearly their model is based on the lockdowns continuing through May.

In fact, my niece had the audacity to say, “It doesn’t say May anywhere on there.” And if you read the detailed FAQ, the model actually doesn’t account for social distancing being ended - it just assumes that the practice continues from the date it was implemented.

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Jack Burton  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:11:37pm

re: #298 Renaissance_Man

Absolutely, but California locked down several weeks before. That early action flattened the curve and saved lives. Florida has similar cases to Illinois and Louisiana, but far fewer deaths. It has about 70% of the cases Michigan has yet only 33% of the deaths. I find it hard to believe that Florida’s laissez-faire approach gave it a better result.

According to the numbers on the IHME site, by locking everything down when we did in CA, we will never even get remotely close to overloading hospital capacity as far as number of hospital beds and ICU beds are concerned. First wave peak resource use and cases/deaths-per-day number should be between April 13-16. It’s working as intended here.

What’s going to happen after that maybe in May, but probably in June or July if the testing doesn’t start to happen at the needed level and the rest of the country can’t get it’s shit together… that remains to be seen.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:11:51pm

This claim, now popular, that various locales had SARS-Cov-2 way back in early fall and thus the majority are immune by now… is on the level of silliness that creationism occupies on the scale of not-even-wrong.

Put simply, given there have been surges in hospitalizations and deaths the past three weeks, proving that Covid-19 is serious and lethal, with our current tested rates, why were there not similar hospitalizations and deaths last fall if so many people were infected?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:14:26pm

re: #306 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This claim, now popular, that various locales had SARS-Cov-2 way back in early fall and thus the majority are immune by now… is on the level of silliness that creationism occupies on the scale of not-even-wrong.

Put simply, given there have been surges in hospitalizations and deaths the past three weeks, proving that Covid-19 is serious and lethal, with our current tested rates, why were there not similar hospitalizations and deaths last fall if so many people were infected?

To work around this, the good Dr. Senator Scott Jensen (R-Carver County, MN) claimed that the asymptomatic rate was some ridiculous number like 80% or 85%.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:15:01pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

we’re still waiting on paved roads

Bit of a non sequitur, but I was a finalist for a visiting job at Berea College ten years ago. Who knows where I’d be now if I’d got it, but I loved my visit there and the students I met. Ironically, I ended up in Lexington and some of my dearest students came from your neck of the woods (as opposed to the more polished kids from Lexington and Louisville).

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:15:40pm

re: #307 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

To work around this, the good Dr. Senator Scott Jensen (R-Carver County, MN) claimed that the asymptomatic rate was some ridiculous number like 80% or 85%.

Well then, why are the asymptomatic rates lower now?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:16:04pm

re: #309 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Well then, why are the asymptomatic rates lower now?

Because we’re only testing people with symptoms, libtard!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:16:20pm

Burned up my REI dividend on a fancy hand crank burr grinder.

Crafting bespoke artisanal pour overs up in this bitch

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:17:31pm

re: #251 John Hughes

You Jammy bastard. Like I said I was in Cornwall, UK, and we didn’t get grid electricity in the 1970’s.

We were about 1 mile away from the grid in two directions. Margaret Thatcher was the Prime Minister.

And what a peach she was.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:18:25pm

re: #312 Barefoot Grin

And what a peach she was.

I always thought Thatcher was the pits…

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:18:42pm

re: #311 goddamnedfrank

I have not used mine yet. I know it is under $10.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:18:47pm

re: #310 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Because we’re only testing people with symptoms, libtard!

The math doesn’t add up, though. Even if we are testing more susceptible people now, in his scenario we are now looking at only a minority of the population left to infect. Even if 80% of Minnesotans were asymptomatic, given the population of Minnesota, you should still have had a detectable surge in hospitalizations and deaths.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:19:40pm

Today I’m vacillating between anxiety and white-hot rage. I’m fortunate that we went to online classes for the spring with classes starting this past Wednesday. So far so good, and I’m continuing to get a paycheck. My financial worries are about my 401K and exactly how poor I will be in retirement (if I can retire).

But the malice and incompetence of the GOP and rightwing nutters is getting to be too much to take. Donald Fucking Trump and Moscow Mitch need a comeuppance the likes that history has never seen before. I want them to face electoral humiliation before they spend the rest of their lives behind bars. The are complicit in crimes against humanity for the way they are behaving in this public health crisis. Trump’s only concern is that his PR is good, and at this point, I don’t know what the hell motivates Mitch. I’m not a deplorable human being so I have no comprehension of how Mitch can be such an evil son of a bitch.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:19:45pm

re: #315 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The math doesn’t add up, though. Even if we are testing more susceptible people now, in his scenario we are now looking at only a minority of the population left to infect. Even if 80% of Minnesotans were asymptomatic, given the population of Minnesota, you should still have had a detectable surge in hospitalizations and deaths.

Unfortunately, I’m too logical - I’ve run out of borrowed stupid tonight, and I can’t pretend to argue any further. That would convince me.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:23:00pm

BTW, the first study on genetic components to susceptibility to SARS, released a few weeks ago from Chinese researchers, found four locations in the human genome which negatively correlate to getting Covid-19.

And guess what - northwestern European populations tend to have alleles at those positions which make them more susceptible to Covid-19 affects than East Asian and some African populations.

Given Minnesota is dominated by people of Norwegian, Swedish, and German ancestry, I bet the population of Minnesota are more susceptible to serious Covid-19 affects than some other places.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:25:06pm

re: #318 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In a twist of irony, Minnesota reports the lowest infection rate/100k in the country, though as our new cases/day rate has been climbing (largely due to increased testing; our new cases/new tests ratio has been steady for a while), that is likely to change soon.

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Jack Burton  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:25:25pm

re: #306 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This claim, now popular, that various locales had SARS-Cov-2 way back in early fall and thus the majority are immune by now… is on the level of silliness that creationism occupies on the scale of not-even-wrong.

Put simply, given there have been surges in hospitalizations and deaths the past three weeks, proving that Covid-19 is serious and lethal, with our current tested rates, why were there not similar hospitalizations and deaths last fall if so many people were infected?

They are completely (and conveniently) ignoring the Influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 and Influenza B/Victoria going around this flu season. I don’t believe either of these strains were anticipated in the flu vaccines produced in 2019. (Please correct me if I’m wrong on that.) These are particularly nasty this year as well.

I’ve read there’s been half a million hospitalizations from these flu viruses alone and if COVID-19 wasn’t a thing, this flu season would be all over the news. If you got really sick before November, and possibly if you did after. You had the flu. COVID-19 wasn’t secretly getting around the US months before the first case in Wuhan (November 17).

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:29:08pm

re: #280 PhillyPretzel

He is still talking? How many hours has it been?

Half a Fidel.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:29:37pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:30:28pm

re: #321 Barefoot Grin

lol. I am sure that Vlad told DT that he has to talk for several hours to get through the thick American skulls.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:31:17pm

re: #320 Jack Burton

According to the CDC statistics, this year’s flu related deaths were on the low side of what is expected in any given year.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:33:32pm

One thing that burns me: The state Republicans have claimed that Governor Walz’s administration has been acting “unilaterally”. Well, first of all, that power is his explicitly, by virtue of our declaration of a peacetime emergency. He doesn’t have to do jack shit. And given how stupid our Trump-humping local Republican senators and congresscritters are, I can’t say as I blame him. When they’re still alive at the end of this thing, I’ll be waiting in vain for them to say thanks for protecting them from themselves.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:34:14pm

We need more landscape photos.

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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:38:17pm

re: #326 Teddy’s Person

We need more landscape photos.

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That land has been scaped clean.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:38:23pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:40:19pm

I just took a look at my local weather again. Philly is going down to near 33 degrees. :(

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:40:44pm

re: #329 PhillyPretzel

I just took a look at my local weather again. Philly is going down to near 33 degrees. :(

It’s going to be a white Easter this year here.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:44:25pm

In addition to that I am getting my old MacBook Pro to work again. I am still having a few minor problems with the battery but it still works.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:44:36pm

re: #326 Teddy’s Person

We need more landscape photos.

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Glen Coe
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:45:56pm

re: #329 PhillyPretzel

I just took a look at my local weather again. Philly is going down to near 33 degrees. :(

Here on the NW side of the state we had snow overnight, mid 30’s through the day. Gonna freeze up tonight (fairly clear sky) but they promise it is going to warm up for the weekend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:46:27pm

re: #329 PhillyPretzel

I just took a look at my local weather again. Philly is going down to near 33 degrees. :(

my forecast is saying 30.

grrrr

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:47:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:51:21pm
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Teddy's Person  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:53:30pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Almost like campaign contributions. They are fucking campaign contributions. Trump says so at his daily 2 million hours of hate. Every single person in Trump’s orbit is a corrupt and vile carbon-based lifeform.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:53:46pm

jeebus

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unproven innocence  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:54:08pm

re: #316 Teddy’s Person

[snip] I don’t know what the hell motivates Mitch. [snip]

Try plugging Kentucky+Aluminum+Deripaska into your favorite search engine.

I’m more than pissed that the TVA and other public works that Great-Depression era Americans devised for (among other things) cheaper manufacture of aluminum, will be subsidising aluminum plants in Mitch’s home state, but that likely would be owned/controlled by Deripaska/Putin, in ways that amount to a Sword of Damoclese over the head of Mitch McConnel. Ever wonder why his desk has been characterised as Where legislation passed by the House goes to die?

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BigPapa  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:54:43pm

re: #296 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is His Ass-Holeyness still farting?

I hath obliged the ripened wind profusely, and may do so again forthwith.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:55:21pm

One thing that strikes me is that conservatives believe that the economy has a deadline that if we don’t meet it will never recover. Would love to see Biden get in front of this and explain how to make it happen without killing grandma. Factories stopped making most items during WWII and got back into consumer manufacturing after the war. It wasn’t easy, but we could make it work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:56:13pm

re: #339 unproven innocence

Try plugging Kentucky+Aluminum+Deripaska into your favorite search engine.

I’m more than pissed that the TVA and other public works that Great-Depression era Americans devised for (among other things) cheaper manufacture of aluminum, will be subsidising aluminum plants in Mitch’s home state, but that likely would be owned/controlled by Deripaska/Putin, in ways that amount to a Sword of Damoclese over the head of Mitch McConnel. Ever wonder why his desk has been characterised as Where legislation passed by the House goes to die?

there’s also a very significant Chinese connection

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Teddy's Person  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:56:15pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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We topped 2,000 deaths so far today. Every single one of them died because Trump is a monster.

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BeachDem  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:56:22pm

re: #326 Teddy’s Person

We need more landscape photos.

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Kylemore Abbey
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Teddy's Person  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:57:30pm

re: #344 BeachDem

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I want a puzzle of that photo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:57:44pm

sometimes I think Mitch’s Moscow connection is a deliberate misdirection so no one looks closer at Elaine.

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unproven innocence  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:57:50pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

there’s also a very significant Chinese connection

As in “significant other”?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:58:20pm

re: #344 BeachDem

Is not a landscape, but can I interest you in a taco cat?

Taco cat.
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Teddy's Person  Apr 10, 2020 • 4:59:20pm

re: #348 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Is not a landscape, but can I interest you in a taco cat?

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Now that’s the kind of taco truck on every corner I could get behind!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:00:00pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:01:20pm

re: #344 BeachDem

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The city of Hyderabad from atop the portico of Falaknuma Palace.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:01:34pm

re: #349 Teddy’s Person

Now that’s the kind of taco truck on every corner I could get behind!

We saw the catbed in the window of a store specializing in cat stuff in Portland, on our way out of town (across the street from the fantastic Georgian restaurant we stopped at for lunch) and I had to have it. Like, we got that one even though it was the shop model and not in the most fantastic condition because otherwise we would not have gotten it at all (she didn’t have any others) and I have no regrets whatsoever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:01:59pm
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CleverToad  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:03:24pm

re: #5 Disloyal Archangel

Someone might already have replied — apologies if so! — but here’s an article on Denver’s Trump Plaza Apartments. It amused me:

westword.com

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:03:54pm

re: #326 Teddy’s Person

We need more landscape photos.

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Well, can’t go get more real soon. which just kills me but I have these from way back. 2010.

Griffith Park Observatory And Moon
90014 in B&W
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sagehen  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:03:55pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If the other one helped, he didn’t Bogart, did he?

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LadyBehir  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:04:08pm

re: #326 Teddy’s Person

PA Grand Canyon
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:05:07pm

re: #357 LadyBehir

PA Grand Canyon? Where is that?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:05:53pm

just noticed on my pocket calendar that in addition to being Election Day, November 2 is Day of the Dead in Mexico.

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Teddy's Person  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:06:56pm

re: #357 LadyBehir

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That’s not too far from where I grew up. Looks like home.

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LadyBehir  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:07:08pm

re: #358 PhillyPretzel

Tioga County. That part is, I think, Colton Point. It is just westish of Wellsboro. Beautiful area.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:07:29pm

re: #358 PhillyPretzel

PA Grand Canyon? Where is that?

Pine Creek Gorge in Pennsylvania?

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LadyBehir  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:07:57pm

re: #360 Teddy’s Person

Where did you grow up? This is maybe an hour, hour and a half from me.

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LadyBehir  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:08:42pm

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, Pine Creek. God’s Country, truly.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:09:06pm

Furnace Fires

Well not a landscape but taking advantage of the larger upload Charles was nice enough to arrange…

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Teddy's Person  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:09:23pm

re: #363 LadyBehir

Where did you grow up? This is maybe an hour, hour and a half from me.

Punxsutawney. It’s about 2 hours away.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:10:00pm

My parents planted these trees

Moon over the back yard.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:10:27pm

re: #361 LadyBehir

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

That looks beautiful. It reminds me a little of the Delaware Water Gap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:10:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:11:33pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:13:27pm

Closest thing to a landscape I have at the moment….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:13:50pm

re: #367 jaunte

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Moon over the back yard.

A meadow on a hill, Sibley State Park, MN
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:17:00pm

For Dorango fans…..

Rango, wanting the world to just go away….

Dory getting away from the news…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:17:29pm

Sunset in India.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:20:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:20:45pm

Rango, wondering whether whatever The Older Boy is putting in the oven is for him….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:21:48pm

I’m done for now. I’ve got some more urban pictures from my trip to Rome, not technically landscapes.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:23:24pm

re: #328 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

In an old issue of Life magazine prior to WWII, the American Legion was profiled.
One officer proclaimed that real soldiers sacrificed themselves, in other words, died, for their country. I thought when reading this, that there would be no old Legionnaires.

(In 1978 or so, a virus settled in the AC ducts of a hotel where the Legionnaires were holding their convention. The disease decimated them, and bankrupted the hotel.)

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Dread Pirate  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:25:19pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:27:34pm

re: #378 Sherlock Hound

And that was the end of the old Bellevue Stratford hotel in 1976.
en.wikipedia.org

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:28:17pm

re: #376 Blind Frog Belly White

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Dread Pirate  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:29:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:30:57pm

re: #373 Blind Frog Belly White

had this for you a few days ago:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:32:54pm

re: #381 Charles Johnson

Hey, Rango made it onto Twitter!
Thanks, boss!

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Dread Pirate  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:34:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:34:49pm

not a sans-human landscape, but MrBWS is still repairing storm damage. This is one his pics from previous storm:

lineman at work
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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:34:52pm

re: #384 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, Rango made it onto Twitter!
Thanks, boss!

Rango is a hit.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:35:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:35:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:35:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:36:13pm
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sagehen  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:36:49pm

re: #378 Sherlock Hound

In an old issue of Life magazine prior to WWII, the American Legion was profiled.
One officer proclaimed that real soldiers sacrificed themselves, in other words, died, for their country. I thought when reading this, that there would be no old Legionnaires.

That must be where Patton heard the quote that he revised to “you don’t win wars by dying for your country. You win by making the other sonuvabitch die for his.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:36:49pm

Belarus News breaking its normally humorous character:

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:37:14pm

re: #326 Teddy’s Person

We need more landscape photos.

Captree Boat Basin, Long Island (Fire Island Lighthouse)
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:38:08pm

From our last road trip:

Alvord Hot Springs

It was pretty chilly but oh the water was so good. We had it to ourselves. Pure bliss.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:38:20pm

re: #391 Charles Johnson

Rango has one of those to play with!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:40:40pm

I hope trump dies a long, slow, painful death. He deserves it.

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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:41:32pm

Texas contains 11.2% of the US population. Since it’s a State, it has to pass a balanced budget when it’s Legislature meets. They do this every two years.

The Legislature will meet again in January, 2021. In the last State budget, the funding for Pandemic testing was…$0.

We have nothing. The President has got $2 trillion fucking dollars in his pocket. His FDA approves the tests and the reagents needed to do them. It’s not up to the States. It’s up to the Feds. He leads the Feds.

How many Contracts have the Feds cut to supply tests and the reagents needed by the States?

John Milton:

The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed,
But, swoll’n with wind and the rank mist they draw,
Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread;

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:41:43pm

The community college where our volunteer group does its best voter registration work is closed. The faculty recognized that almost 1/3 of the students experience food insecurity and have created an outreach to provide grocery gift cards. I’m organizing a donation in the name of our group. (We have a name now—after years of freebooting, we have joined the League of Women Voters en masse.)

Partial hat tip to the pimps in DC who tried to buy our votes with $1200.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:41:56pm
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LadyBehir  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:43:54pm

re: #400 Charles Johnson

Every Appalachian Celtic band. Ever. And the distancing thing? Does not work.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:46:18pm

re: #400 Charles Johnson

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A girl i dated in college went to Ireland for a summer. Came back with a Tin Whistle she’d bought, which came with the warning to practice where nobody could hear you.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:47:16pm

re: #401 LadyBehir

Every Appalachian Celtic band. Ever. And the distancing thing? Does not work.

New make by The Furnace Mountain Band

Furnace Mountain - Dink’s Song

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:48:14pm

re: #402 Blind Frog Belly White

A girl i dated in college went to Ireland for a summer. Came back with a Tin Whistle she’d bought, which came with the warning to practice where nobody could hear you.

I have a practice chanter and CD. Used once.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:48:52pm

re: #404 Decatur Deb

I have a practice chanter and CD. Used once.

mr. klys has one. I have no objection but the same cannot be said for the cats.

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:48:55pm

Is this a landscape?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:49:41pm

I read that although, yeah, we have a crap-ton more testing than we did back when Trump lied that everyone who wants one can be tested, we seem to be plateauing at about 150K tests/day. We’re never gonna reopen the country with that.

Well, unless we want the 1918 Pandemic’s 675,000 dead to pale by comparison.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:50:26pm
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gwangung  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:51:32pm

re: #408 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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“Tough talk” backfires…surprise, surprise…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:51:51pm

re: #404 Decatur Deb

I have a practice chanter and CD. Used once.

Don’t know if she ever practiced with it. It’s the kind of thing you buy when you’re there but then don’t ever touch after you get back. Like stuff you buy at the RenFair that seems perfectly normal there, but doesn’t really fit in at work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:51:58pm

re: #404 Decatur Deb

I have a practice chanter and CD. Used once.

I have a chanter, too…tons of annoying fun!

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:53:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:53:15pm

re: #406 gocart mozart

Is this a landscape?

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not supposed to have people in it, but nice photo anyway!

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:53:47pm

re: #407 Blind Frog Belly White

I read that although, yeah, we have a crap-ton more testing than we did back when Trump lied that everyone who wants one can be tested, we seem to be plateauing at about 150K tests/day. We’re never gonna reopen the country with that.

Well, unless we want the 1918 Pandemic’s 675,000 dead to pale by comparison.

Starting to think states like California and NY are gonna lead on this. Just might shame the Feds into more tests. Make test results the door to opening. We can run this all the way down to TB style protocols.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:54:13pm

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have a chanter, too…tons of annoying fun!

Mrs. FBW has an entire bassoon. 4’ of annoyance. The Farting Bedpost, we call it.

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stpaulbear  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:55:26pm

re: #326 Teddy’s Person

We need more landscape photos.

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coming into Nelson Wisconsin
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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:56:16pm

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have a chanter, too…tons of annoying fun!

Son2 plays the bodhran at occasional pub sessions.

Q: What is the difference between a bodhan player and a dead rabbit in the road?
A: The rabbit might have been going to a paying gig.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:57:23pm

re: #415 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW has an entire bassoon. 4’ of annoyance. The Farting Bedpost, we call it.

my #1 instrument is the banjo.

my fave memory is playing it on the front porch listening to it echo off the hillsides…then felt something.

Out of the corner of my eye I saw a hummingbird.

She landed on my shoulder and perched there for as long as I played.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 5:58:05pm

re: #417 Decatur Deb

Son plays the bodhran at occasional pub sessions.

Q: What is the difference between a bodhan player and a dead rabbit in the road?
A: The rabbit might have been going to a paying gig.

I have a bodhran, too!

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:00:43pm

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

my #1 instrument is the banjo.

my fave memory is playing it on the front porch listening to it echo off the hillsides…then felt something.

Out of the corner of my eye I saw a hummingbird.

She landed on my shoulder and perched there for as long as I played.

Was that as awesome as it sounds?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:02:34pm

MrBWS just skyped…he’ll be home sometime in the wee hours.

He said they were told they would be released this evening,then shortly after were told no, you’re being held until tomorrow.

ALL OF THE CREWS said, nope, Nope, NOPE

igRzEElhV6Df+afoZ2LZW+Rw1nIdboe6t9UVew3Yb8fnIwBCGQ61BvBuRr8O9yuGjscP9BfZgTdImxdQ5vdaMQzs6MfgOkiCKC2lHymQtr9I5UctvCDkhjPZU0myYJ62O0ruiXFPTF5jEGCB0h9rQ34kTNZBj6FCYoIRTgc/FKJOSCTiPCRy6Gb7UEKia1U3QRMyaVXMZVkyv2yjZf2fG+dkwlc3XVoXVD5LRCFDttWxr+aSDrilK4ioTx0S66GQ

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:03:11pm

re: #420 Jebediah, RBG

Was that as awesome as it sounds?

Yes.
Yes, it was.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:07:55pm

Anyone watching Maddow? I try to get these clips and post them. A Nurse who came out from Kansas to work in NY. Dan Renzy is his name

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:07:57pm

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mind you, the guys and gals have been working almost non-fucking-stop since the storm hit.

They get minutes to eat and very little time to sleep.
They are exhausted and worried about their own families.

All while getting power restored for more than 80,000 customers

There are about 4,000 customers (~300 outage locations) left

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thecommodore  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:08:42pm

The only variation between these six houses is how much the stupid hurts.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:09:44pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:10:16pm

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

Storm? You mean there are still storms?
half /

Around here, it feels like the land of the lotos-eaters, where it seems always afternoon,

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:10:41pm
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William Lewis  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:10:58pm

re: #416 stpaulbear

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Dread Pirate  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:11:35pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:12:07pm

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

That escalated quickly.

/Just like the COVID epidemic will if stupid shitheads like this get their way

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:12:41pm

re: #430 Dread Pirate

Only if you cook it right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:13:11pm

re: #425 thecommodore

The only variation between these six houses is how much the stupid hurts.

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sorry, I would have to nail the doors shut on all six houses before splashing the place with gasoline.

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Omar Comin’ Yo  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:13:27pm

re: #394 makeitstop

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:15:06pm

Bear Mountain, NY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:15:09pm

re: #425 thecommodore

The only variation between these six houses is how much the stupid hurts.

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also, missing the concept that each house must include someone you hate.

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:15:59pm

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, missing the concept that each house must include someone you hate.

Well, they sure do that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:18:16pm

speaking of bagpipes…in Cincinnati:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:19:27pm

*THUD*

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:20:12pm

re: #436 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, missing the concept that each house must include someone you hate.

Mostly, they managed to make it TWO people I hate! The only exceptions are the ones I never heard of.

But I think the Candace Owens/Dinesh D’Souza House would be the one where I’d be most likely to find myself wishing for a baseball bat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:20:34pm
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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:21:20pm

Sam on the beach, Lake Tahoe.

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stpaulbear  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:21:24pm

lookout park above Alma Wisconsin - Mississippi River

This is a much higher res photo than my first one. I wish I wouldn’t have used the compressed version. The size of photos we can post on LGF has certainly improved over the years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:21:42pm

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

sorry, I would have to nail the doors shut on all six houses before splashing the place with gasoline.

I could see a little “Masque of the Red Death” action in any of them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:22:54pm

re: #440 Blind Frog Belly White

Mostly, they managed to make it TWO people I hate! The only exceptions are the ones I never heard of.

But I think the Candace Owens/Dinesh D’Souza House would be the one where I’d be most likely to find myself wishing for a baseball bat.

Every single one of the six houses are loaded with nothing but conserveejits.

Thus, my nailing the doors a shut and splashing gasoline.

The concept requires that each house should include at least libturd.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:23:06pm

re: #412 gocart mozart

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Jenna Jameson? Hmmm……..seems familiar somehow.

I’VE GOT IT! Trump’s new press secretary, right?
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:25:23pm

re: #443 stpaulbear

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This is a much higher res photo than my first one. I wish I wouldn’t have used the compressed version. The size of photos we can post on LGF has certainly improved over the years.

Hussain Sagar, Hyderabad

Forget about drinking the water… the lake is so toxic that no one is allowed within a certain distance of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:25:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:26:40pm
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Dread Pirate  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:26:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:28:17pm
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EPR-radar  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:29:39pm

re: #414 Rightwingconspirator

Starting to think states like California and NY are gonna lead on this. Just might shame the Feds into more tests. Make test results the door to opening. We can run this all the way down to TB style protocols.

I think it inevitable there will be a real difference in how covid 19 hits red states vs. how it hits blue states, especially per capita.

Too bad the obvious conclusion (vote GOP for death, destruction and disaster) isn’t going to be made by very many who don’t already see Republicans as the synthesis of all human evil.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:30:34pm

re: #452 EPR-radar

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:31:22pm

Loving the photos, everybody.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:31:57pm

It’s the right decision.

I talked to a friend today who is on the board for an anime convention (and works staff at several others) and they cancelled theirs two weeks ago - in part because the convention center is a field hospital location. Something that’s never come up in convention planning before…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:34:31pm

re: #453 Dread Pirate

Honestly, though, that’s been obvious from Day One. Trump doesn’t make any actual decisions, or try to organize anything, or coordinate anything, and pushes it all down to the Governors, thinking he can avoid blame.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:34:50pm

This is a decent thread on the potter’s graves in NYC:

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William Lewis  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:35:41pm

I mentioned this earlier but I think none of those who would be interested were around at the time, so a repeat. Behind the privacy tag for those who don’t care about Gunz stuffz.

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EPR-radar  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:38:03pm

re: #453 Dread Pirate

As long as Trump insists on being the person in charge in DC, then the less he does about covid19, the better.

To date the administration only appears to be hijacking badly needed supplies and then selling them to the highest bidder or using them as political tools (e.g., CO ventilators). Who needs that shit?

Trump and the Republicans are a curse upon the nation.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:40:12pm

On the list of things I hope we can keep from this trying time: cocktails to go. It makes absolutely zero sense that I have to drive to someplace and drink the alcohol there and then drive back home when I can bring it home with me and enjoy it safely and responsibly at my home, putting no one at risk.

This message is brought to you by the watermelon swirl which is my fucking favorite and they put back on the menu on Wednesday which is why the cheat day rule is being violated. But we didn’t get the chips so it shouldn’t be too bad.

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Dread Pirate  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:43:32pm

re: #460 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Isn’t there a Jesus parable about mixing drinks for a man vs teaching him to mix his own drinks?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:44:10pm

re: #461 Dread Pirate

Isn’t there a Jesus parable about mixing drinks for a man vs teaching him to mix his own drinks?

Look, I’m not gonna buy a slushie machine to make the frozen margaritas just right. That’s a bad investment on my part.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:45:02pm

re: #460 klys (maker of Silmarils)

On the list of things I hope we can keep from this trying time: cocktails to go. It makes absolutely zero sense that I have to drive to someplace and drink the alcohol there and then drive back home when I can bring it home with me and enjoy it safely and responsibly at my home, putting no one at risk.

This message is brought to you by the watermelon swirl which is my fucking favorite and they put back on the menu on Wednesday which is why the cheat day rule is being violated. But we didn’t get the chips so it shouldn’t be too bad.

Oddly enough, I’ve found I’m drinking LESS than I otherwise would be. Not sure why.

Made myself a Martini last night. It was, as I have long suspected, nothing but a glass of cold gin.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:45:44pm

re: #461 Dread Pirate

Teach a man to fish and he will turn to drink.
Teach a man to mix drinks and he will drink like fish.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:47:27pm

re: #463 Blind Frog Belly White

Oddly enough, I’ve found I’m drinking LESS than I otherwise would be. Not sure why.

Made myself a Martini last night. It was, as I have long suspected, nothing but a glass of cold gin.

We are focusing on losing weight (it’s been going well) and so there honestly hasn’t been too much here. It’s mostly concentrated on cheat days. I am celebrating a recent low on the scale.

My appreciation for martinis is limited. I’ve tried, but… Definitely gotten into the amaros some though, so playing with negronis is fun. Lord knows I have the gin collection for it.

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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:51:38pm

re: #412 gocart mozart

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Wait, THAT Jenna Jameson?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:52:00pm

re: #465 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We are focusing on losing weight (it’s been going well) and so there honestly hasn’t been too much here. It’s mostly concentrated on cheat days. I am celebrating a recent low on the scale.

My appreciation for martinis is limited. I’ve tried, but… Definitely gotten into the amaros some though, so playing with negronis is fun. Lord knows I have the gin collection for it.

I’ve never been much for gin, but lately, since my sister-in-law keeps buying good gin when she visits, I’ve been enjoying G&T’s, with Fever Tree tonic waters. Never could stand them when I was younger, but Mom and Dad drank gallons of them over the decades, and now I appreciate them.

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William Lewis  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:52:15pm

re: #465 klys (maker of Silmarils)

We are focusing on losing weight (it’s been going well) and so there honestly hasn’t been too much here. It’s mostly concentrated on cheat days. I am celebrating a recent low on the scale.

My appreciation for martinis is limited. I’ve tried, but… Definitely gotten into the amaros some though, so playing with negronis is fun. Lord knows I have the gin collection for it.

Used to be a big martini fan but these days a good Manhattan with rye whiskey is my preferred cocktail. Even more often though is using a shot glass like a tumbler and sipping from it with a beer on the side.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:53:22pm

re: #467 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve never been much for gin, but lately, since my sister-in-law keeps buying good gin when she visits, I’ve been enjoying G&T’s, with Fever Tree tonic waters. Never could stand them when I was younger, but Mom and Dad drank gallons of them over the decades, and now I appreciate them.

Good tonic water makes a world of difference. I’m very partial to the Fever Tree Mediterranean, but the Whole Foods 365 brand is also very, very good and probably my go-to cheap one. Once you calibrate your tongue on the tonic water, you can really start to appreciate what different gins bring to the table and the variety in it.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 10, 2020 • 6:58:59pm

re: #468 William Lewis

Used to be a big martini fan but these days a good Manhattan with rye whiskey is my preferred cocktail. Even more often though is using a shot glass like a tumbler and sipping from it with a beer on the side.

My aunt/guardian drank a variation on the boilermaker called a depth bomb—shotglass of rye dropped entire into a tall Iron City. She died of chirrosis at 93.

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Semper Fi  Apr 10, 2020 • 7:05:07pm

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

my #1 instrument is the banjo.

my fave memory is playing it on the front porch listening to it echo off the hillsides…then felt something.

Out of the corner of my eye I saw a hummingbird.

She landed on my shoulder and perched there for as long as I played.

I love stories like that. Here’s another:

A long time ago (40yrs) a dear friend of mine was sunbathing poolside at her girlfriends home. It was hilly country and just beyond the back wall of the yard was a hill going abruptly upwards 100ft or so with a tree at the top. While sunning (just lying there looking up while talking) my friend noticed a hawk sitting on a branch of the tree. The girls were swimming and sunning for hours. The hawk never left its branch. She became concerned thinking the hawk is possibly someone’s pet that got away. On a lark she wrapped a towel around her right forearm and stood up with her arm raised. After several minutes the hawk flew off the tree and, in a glide, headed directly for her upraised arm landing with a firm grip. The girls thought, “Wow!, wasn’t that something…what will we do with it?”
The girls were home alone and had to think this through because the hawk seemed happy on her arm and yes, it must be someone’s pet. My friend sat in the passenger seat with her arm and hawk resting on the door of the convertible (top down) and drove to the pet shop where she was relieved of her new friend.
I loved hearing that story a long time ago and enjoy just thinking about it once more.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2020 • 7:05:49pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2020 • 7:10:51pm

re: #470 Decatur Deb

My aunt/guardian drank a variation on the boilermaker called a depth bomb—shotglass of rye dropped entire into a tall Iron City. She died of chirrosis at 93.

Anything worth doing is worth overdoing.

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2020 • 7:19:19pm

re: #466 austin_blue

Yes

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BeachDem  Apr 10, 2020 • 7:58:04pm

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

sorry, I would have to nail the doors shut on all six houses before splashing the place with gasoline.

I would sleep on the sidewalk (or in a compost pile, or on a jagged rock) before entering any of the six.

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plansbandc  Apr 10, 2020 • 8:48:13pm

Rio Grande last fall…

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John Hughes  Apr 11, 2020 • 2:48:28am

re: #312 Barefoot Grin

And what a peach she was.

Oh, Maggie did two things right in her life — talked Ronnie into setting up the IPCC and supported the UK’s entry into the EU (and pushed for the implementation of the single market).

Of course later on she started to change her mind on both of these — about the time she started showing signs of Alzheimer’s according to her daughter.


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