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After all this over I still want for you all to stay at least 6’ away from me.
As an introvert, I have been practicing for this all of my life!
Without nationwide free testing this can’t happen.
Oh wait, it can, and history tells us exactly who will be and who will never be getting these documents. https://t.co/M0fQHECkKO— The Zandarlorian (@ZandarVTS) April 11, 2020
“This document proves I wasn’t infected until I sat next to an asymptomatic carrier.”
re: #2 jaunte
Make it a single document with your voter ID and concealed carry permit.
re: #2 jaunte
I have seen reports that a disturbingly high percentage of recovered patients, maybe as high as 1/3, have little or no antibody titer against the virus. This might make the reports of ‘reinfection’ or recurring infection make more sense.
And complicate the everloving shit out of trying to ‘reopen America’.
And you may see me tonight with an infectious smile
It don’t cost very much but it lasts a long while
#GenHyten provides an update on COVID-19 cases on USS Theodore Roosevelt & how to plan for operations in the #COVID19 environment: “This will be a new way of doing business that we have to focus in on & we’re adjusting to that new world.”
Have a listen.@DeptofDefense @USNavy pic.twitter.com/cz7eBocXyg— The Joint Staff 🇺🇸 (@thejointstaff) April 9, 2020
Yeah it is. Because it’s also about replacing Pence, Barr, Mnunchin, and everyone of Trump’s cronies.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) April 11, 2020
re: #11 Belafon
It’s enough for me. Some article quoted a guy saying no one will crawl over broken glass to vote for Biden, and I couldn’t get heard. I was in the back of the room waving my hand and yelling, I will! I will!
Obligatory he wasn’t my first choice.
I saw something yesterday, where someone had seen the guidance from the CDC telling doctors that if they had compelling reason to believe that a patient died from COVID-19, they should list that as the presumptive Cause Of Death, even without a positive test.
This was being circulated as PROOF!!!! that the Gummint is inflating the numbers of dead!!! because reasons!!!
But, really, the scary thing is that there are something like 150 more people a day dying at home in NYC than there usually are, and none of them were tested. We’re not OVERcounting, we’re UNDERcounting!
I was being snide in #6 unti I remembered that a concealed carry permit is adequate voter ID in Alabama.
re: #15 Decatur Deb
I was being snide in #6 unti I remembered that a concealed carry permit is adequate voter ID in Alabama.
Holy shit.
re: #16 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Holy shit.
Honestly, I’m not surprised. Seems totally on brand. I bet they don’t take college IDs.
re: #16 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Holy shit.
It’s also here in Texas because who has most of them: white men.
re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White
Honestly, I’m not surprised. Seems totally on brand. I bet they don’t take college IDs.
Naw, they do, even from non-state bible colleges.
re: #19 Decatur Deb
Naw, they do, even from non-state bible colleges.
Texas won’t accept college IDs.
re: #21 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
went shopping today
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*facepalm*
*WHACK!*
re: #20 Belafon
Texas won’t accept college IDs.
Several don’t. IIRC, that was a ploy of Scott Walker’s.
This was taken from the top level of the (reconstructed) Karatsu Castle in Karatsu, Saga Prefecture, Japan. This view overlooks Karatsu Bay. The castle sits on a base overlooking the bay; to get to it, you can either pay to take an elevator up or walk up steps. We paid. ETA: there are still five floors to climb up once you get into the castle proper.
Trump rejected S. Korea’s offer to pay at least 13 pct more for shared defense costs: reporthttps://t.co/OosaSX5fhr
— The Korea Herald (@TheKoreaHerald) April 11, 2020
If the Koreans knew how to bargain they’d tell Trump to pick up his shit and go.
re: #21 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
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“Ah kin eat fifteh aigs.”
“Luke, hain’t no man kin FIND fifteh aigs, let alone eat ‘em!”
re: #25 Dread Pirate
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If the Koreans knew how to bargain they’d tell Trump to pick up his shit and go.
Not any time soon—all USFK bases are locked down with CV19.
Well, the first person I know got their stimulus check into their bank account today. That’s actually much faster than I expected. Now since I’ve never gotten a direct deposit refund, I’ll have to wait for paper to get cut but still that’s a good sign.
re: #29 William Lewis
Well, the first person I know got their stimulus check into their bank account today. That’s actually much faster than I expected. Now since I’ve never gotten a direct deposit refund, I’ll have to wait for paper to get cut but still that’s a good sign.
You reminded me we needed to donate to the local food bank. Done :)
Putin made her do it.
“A woman who accused Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden of sexually assaulting her when she worked for him in 1993 has filed a formal criminal complaint with the Washington, DC, police about the alleged incident,” Business Insider reported Friday.
“Tara Reade says she told police that Biden assaulted her in a Senate corridor, shoving his hand under her skirt and penetrating her with his fingers. She was a staffer in his Senate office at the time,” Business Insider reported. “Late Thursday afternoon, Reade filed a report of the incident with the sexual assault unit of the Washington, DC, Metropolitan Police Department.”
For those taking notes at home, here’s a list of things I don’t have time for:
1. That.pic.twitter.com/apmGFOnZgz— Katie Porter (@katieporteroc) April 10, 2020
re: #13 Blind Frog Belly White
I saw something yesterday, where someone had seen the guidance from the CDC telling doctors that if they had compelling reason to believe that a patient died from COVID-19, they should list that as the presumptive Cause Of Death, even without a positive test.
This was being circulated as PROOF!!!! that the Gummint is inflating the numbers of dead!!! because reasons!!!
But, really, the scary thing is that there are something like 150 more people a day dying at home in NYC than there usually are, and none of them were tested. We’re not OVERcounting, we’re UNDERcounting!
It’s funny though. Everyone I’ve seen on my FB that thinks this is all BS. A government conspiracy. Inflated deaths etc etc… ARE TRUMP SUPPORTERS.
We’re number one.
#BREAKING The US becomes the first country to record more than 2,000 #coronavirus deaths in one day, with 2,108 fatalities in the past 24 hours, according to the Johns Hopkins University tally pic.twitter.com/QREocIGjVq
— AFP news agency (@AFP) April 11, 2020
re: #34 makeitstop
We’re number one.
Butbutbut Donald Trump has the best coronavirus response! He found hydroxychloroquine by himself and is personally sending it to our best allies!
re: #33 GlutenFreeJesus
It’s funny though. Everyone I’ve seen on my FB that thinks this is all BS. A government conspiracy. Inflated deaths etc etc… ARE TRUMP SUPPORTERS.
Yeah, funny ‘bout that.
re: #37 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah, funny ‘bout that.
Mrs. Fish commented earlier, “Why is it that my conspiracy theory family can’t see the ACTUAL CONSPIRACY being perpetrated by Russia and the Trumps?”
You can always tell when someone has tried to explain a complicated subject to him because he starts sounding like a 6th grader who skimmed the Wikipedia article 5 minutes before his oral presentation was due.
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) April 11, 2020
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) April 11, 2020
More than 2000 people died today from COVID-19, but this jackass is disappointed it wasn’t more. https://t.co/skCT4cJhEi
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 11, 2020
Aerial view of the JC Bacon Dam, Independence Township, PA…my grandfather’s legacy to the borough of Ambridge PA!
re: #49 jeffreyw
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I wish I had pictures from my trips up and down St. Anthony Falls.
I don’t say this enough, but whew @TomiLahren is truly dumb af: pic.twitter.com/wRu4b0GQQ1
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) April 10, 2020
I live in tornado alley.
There are lots of 100 year old tornado shelters in the country that have been used dozens of times but have never seen a tornado actually go on top of them.
None of those folks were never sorry they had had a tornado shelter, or used them, and most of them are Trumpians.
When the kids wait at the door for you to get home:
An infectious and fatal strain of bird flu has been confirmed in a commercial turkey flock in South Carolina, the first case of the more serious strain of the disease in the United States since 2017. https://t.co/vdfAwEXJzI
— PBS NewsHour (@NewsHour) April 10, 2020
I’m doing extremely well under quarantine thanks for asking how are you my fine tweeps? pic.twitter.com/i5RSrwujZz
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) April 11, 2020
re: #15 Decatur Deb
I was being snide in #6 unti I remembered that a concealed carry permit is adequate voter ID in Alabama.
Are there blue states where a Marijuana Card is valid voter ID?
Exit from the Santa Elena Canyon, Big Bend National Park. Twelve hundred foot cliffs.
Build the wall!
re: #68 sagehen
Are there blue states where a Marijuana Card is valid voter ID?
Dunno, if that something used to get medical grass? Too many kids think a weed bust disqualifies you in AL. It doesn’t.
re: #72 Decatur Deb
Dunno, if that something used to get medical grass? Too many kids think a weed bust disqualifies you in AL. It doesn’t.
The whole felony vs misdemeanor thing?
re: #70 William Lewis
Oh man maybe its quarantine but that green looks great
re: #74 William Lewis
The whole felony vs misdemeanor thing?
Beyond that. One of our activists, an ex-con, forced the state to define disqualifying felonies. Turns out there are very few and that most of our felons can register. They can even vote “absentee” from stir.
re: #75 Rightwingconspirator
Oh man maybe its quarantine but that green looks great
July 14, 2017. High summer, a beautiful day.
re: #69 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
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Where is this? Looks a bit like Newberry Nat’l Volcanic Monument.
La erupción del #Krakatoa es algo que si bien no pasaba desde el siglo XIX, era de esperarse. Sin embargo, hay que resaltar que en las últimas horas, son 4 los volcanes en Indonesia que han estado con actividad: Krakatoa, Semeru, Monte Merapi y Tambora. pic.twitter.com/v1iphZ11QG
— José Parra (@masqueuncoach) April 11, 2020
re: #80 calochortus
Where is this? Looks a bit like Newberry Nat’l Volcanic Monument.
You are correct. :)
re: #83 William Lewis
One more before I get ready for work… Only time I ever like the result of the fisheye I had for awhile.
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Dude, that looks like a Thomas Kinkade painting.
re: #1 b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)
After all this over I still want for you all to stay at least 6’ away from me.
As an introvert, I have been practicing for this all of my life!
re: #84 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Dude, that looks like a Thomas Kinkade painting.
Perfect October day and the perfect angle on that bridge. Peak color and good weather to boot. That was more luck (and having the day off) than skill.
re: #84 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Dude, that looks like a Thomas Kinkade painting.
Fortunately it lacks a quaint cottage with light streaming out of the windows.
re: #88 calochortus
Fortunately it lacks a quaint cottage with light streaming out of the windows.
There was a house up behind my right shoulder. Thankfully out of view :D
As if there wasn’t enough shit in this year https://t.co/7Rw8Iad4ua
— Angry Staff Officer (@pptsapper) April 11, 2020
Krakatoa, a volcano about 100 miles from Jakarta which erupted in 1883 killing tens of thousands of people and altering the earth’s climate for years, has just erupted. Incredible footage. The worst timing, ever. https://t.co/MAwYMJd9Rw
— Seth Cotlar (@SethCotlar) April 11, 2020
re: #91 gocart mozart
The earth has decided it wants to vote against Trump.
Enchanted Rock, a massive granite pluton 1.1 billion years old. Halfway between Fredericksburg and Llano 75 miles wast of Austin. The same uplift, caused by the collision of the northwest side of the African pluton with what was then the south end of the North American craton, rippled from Texas to Oklahoma to Arkansas to Missouri, and got buried under the Mississippi river in later times. The African plate was connected to the Euro plate, and that collision, starting in northern Alabama all the way up to Canada (it was a torquing grinder of a collision) lifted the Appalachians, the Blue Ridge, the Catskills, and the Highlands of Scotland.
re: #30 calochortus
You reminded me we needed to donate to the local food bank. Done :)
Did the food bank and the women’s shelter, and now some peeps I know started another great org, so $ to them tonight—think it’s a great idea:
Help Your Neighbor.
They’re doing food, shopping help, job leads, online recovery groups, etc.
horrycccr.org
Horry County Citizen’s Crisis Response is a registered 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization that was founded by local citizens to ensure communication, connection, and resources, for the people of Horry County during times of crisis.
All monetary donations will be going to a community fund dedicated to purchasing supplies and emergency/medical necessities for Horry County citizens as well as supplementing other local organizations and charities that are helping those affected by the COVID-19 crisis.
re: #94 BeachDem
Yeah, we’re starting to look around for something like that here. It’s hard to know where best to donate to help people through this.
– The grey line shows the number of deaths in New York State in 2015-18
– The colored lines at the bottom are deaths from the flu in past years
– In red is the number of confirmed deaths from the pandemic
Data: JHU & CDC https://t.co/wVplFnSo4r
Author: https://t.co/wUQMtuzz79 pic.twitter.com/zdsZVZ0APe— Max Roser (@MaxCRoser) April 8, 2020
re: #39 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Mrs. Fish commented earlier, “Why is it that my conspiracy theory family can’t see the ACTUAL CONSPIRACY being perpetrated by Russia and the Trumps?”
I thought of a response but it has no value.
Krakatoa has just erupted.
The Earth is doing a really good job of reminding us that we are just guests here.
pic.twitter.com/7b9skYCOJV— Shannon Stirone 💀 (@shannonmstirone) April 11, 2020
re: #38 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
Are we still doing landscapes?
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re: #91 gocart mozart
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Impressive, especially when you see lava and ash almost all the way down the side within a matter of seconds. A human hasn’t much chance.
I post a photo of lava swallowing our beloved Kapoho Bay, then Krakatoa erupts. Just sayin…
re: #101 BigPapa
I post a photo of lava swallowing our beloved Kapoho Bay, then Krakatoa erupts. Just sayin…
Do you have any pictures of the British burning down the White House?
After the Woolsey Fire. Click the image to see more detail.
re: #102 Belafon
Do you have any pictures of the British burning down the White House?
That’s easily worth +10.
I adore Neil Finn. Just saying. Thanks Charles.
re: #100 Semper Fi
Impressive, especially when you see lava and ash almost all the way down the side within a matter of seconds. A human hasn’t much chance.
Volcanology has a lot of French terms in the field, due to the eruption of a volcano on Martinique that virtually destroyed Fort-Au-France. There is a word in French that I can’t remember: It described the flow of hot gases that go downslope from the crater. These gases alone killed many people.
re: #108 Sherlock Hound
Volcanology has a lot of French terms in the field, due to the eruption of a volcano on Martinique that virtually destroyed Fort-Au-France. There is a word in French that I can’t remember: It described the flow of hot gases that go downslope from the crater. These gases alone killed many people.
Pyroclastic flows? Also sometimes described as nuée ardente, thanks Wikipedia.
I have watched the first 12 seconds of this at least 100 times, its better than pornpic.twitter.com/j5SeLyeMyy
— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) April 9, 2020
re: #56 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
Easter island:
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Skellig Island
…so I really really don’t want to look, because it was in a Dinesh tweet posted about 50 back. But:
“#CorinaVirus”?
re: #109 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Pyroclastic flows? Also sometimes described as nuée ardente, thanks Wikipedia.
I was blanking on those words in both languages. It was a horrible event because the town was on the slope of the volcano, as if Mt. Kilauea was on the inner burbs of Oahu.
re: #92 Belafon
The earth has decided it wants to vote against Trump.
Nah, that’s just Krakatoa clearing it’s throat. If it wants to go all 1883, we’ll see it in our sunsets for five years.
re: #114 Sherlock Hound
I was blanking on those words in both languages. It was a horrible event because the town was on the slope of the volcano, as if Mt. Kilauea was on the inner burbs of Oahu.
It was a pretty horrific tragedy. Kilauea isn’t prone to eruptions of that type though - you need a stratovolcano, really. The lava at Kilauea is too fluid and the gases can escape too easily. You want a thicker lava where the gases can build up and not escape until much closer to the surface, where you get an explosive decompression that pulverizes the rock and creates the flow.
A QAnon guy pretending to be JFK Jr. did an “ask me anything.” I learned that:
40k children have been rescued
Princess Di is alive
John Podesta murdered JonBenet Ramsey
Every prominent person quarantined with coronavirus is under house arrest
“Justice” was coming today (oops) https://t.co/svUUFtHkN8— Mike “Trump Can’t Cancel the Election” Rothschild (@rothschildmd) April 10, 2020
When Brexit happened and BJ became prime minister.
They were no longer under DS cabal.
I don’t believe BJ has Corona.
What they are doing is they are putting him away for the time being in churchhills bunker.— jQnah (@JfkJuni0r) April 9, 2020
That I don’t know.
I don’t really believe it.— jQnah (@JfkJuni0r) April 9, 2020
I believe he is on house arrest.
Remember self quarantined= house arrest.— jQnah (@JfkJuni0r) April 9, 2020
re: #109 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Pyroclastic flows? Also sometimes described as nuée ardente, thanks Wikipedia.
Nue ardente, yup.
re: #118 klys (maker of Silmarils)
It was a pretty horrific tragedy. Kilauea isn’t prone to eruptions of that type though - you need a stratovolcano, really. The lava at Kilauea is too fluid and the gases can escape too easily. You want a thicker lava where the gases can build up and not escape until much closer to the surface, where you get an explosive decompression that pulverizes the rock and creates the flow.
Geology I remember from my long ago working days at the USGS…
re: #117 austin_blue
Nah, that’s just Krakatoa clearing it’s throat. If it wants to go all 1883, we’ll see it in our sunsets for five years.
Oh, don’t wish that! The wingnuts will say “HUR HUR! HOWS GLOBAL WARMING NOW!” We might lose our summer for real!
re: #122 gwangung
Geology I remember from my long ago working days at the USGS…
Ironically also one of the few vaguely real geology applications of my PhD research, not that I really did much with it in that direction.
Right now yes.
— jQnah (@JfkJuni0r) April 9, 2020
re: #95 calochortus
Yeah, we’re starting to look around for something like that here. It’s hard to know where best to donate to help people through this.
I know—it’s hard to figure out where the $ does the most good—that’s why I really liked what they came up with. They set it up well for volunteers, etc. This is their facebook group where peeps can go for quick answers and help.
Well, tomorrow is going to be… fuck, I don’t know:
Biden accuser Tara Reade filed a formal criminal complaint with DC police: report
#MeToo https://t.co/gnUZfNXJPa— Raw Story (@RawStory) April 11, 2020
re: #129 uriel
This accuser’s stories have been all over the place for a long time, if this is the person I’m thinking of.
If so, then this just means a check from the RNC cleared.
re: #131 EPR-radar
This accuser’s stories have been all over the place for a long time, if this is the person I’m thinking of.
If so, then this just means a check from the RNC cleared.
THIS.
Also, Trump has way more accusers than this. Going down this road with Biden won’t end well.
re: #111 BeachDem
Skellig Island
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Used as a shoot for Star Wars 7 and 8 as a Jedi Monastery. Actually *was* an old Xstian monastery.
I’m assuming that’s where they sent the Franciscans.
re: #129 uriel
Well, tomorrow is going to be… fuck, I don’t know:
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Statute of limitation means it won’t even be filed. 26 years… Seems she missed that he ran as VP twice and Senator several other times.
re: #119 gocart mozart
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Wow, John Podesta’s been busy—in addition to JonBenet, he also grabbed Madeleine McCann (with his “crew”). Oh, and she’s currently in the U.S. Yikes.
She was kidnapped by podesta, and Ghislaine Maxwell.
She was podesta’s, and then she was sold to Hillary, and then something happened, and she ended up back with podesta.— jQnah (@JfkJuni0r) April 9, 2020
re: #129 uriel
Well, tomorrow is going to be… fuck, I don’t know:
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Waiting until the day after Bernie suspends his campaign.
The Right is going to throw everything at the candidate, no matter who it is.
re: #136 BeachDem
Wow, John Podesta’s been busy—in addition to JonBenet, he also grabbed Madeleine McCann (with his “crew”). Oh, and she’s currently in the U.S. Yikes.
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Oh, and according to jQnah, Diana is alive, Matt Goetz is a Kennedy, and Trump and Assange are cousins. These people ain’t right.
re: #119 gocart mozart
Those people are insane and they scare me. Jesus Christ.
Ha! pic.twitter.com/Q94OzKyTxp
— Katri Leikola (@katri_leikola) April 10, 2020
Unk corporal with the FLOOFIEST pup pic.twitter.com/sPMIFj9bzb
— Angry Staff Officer (@pptsapper) April 11, 2020
re: #117 austin_blue
Nah, that’s just Krakatoa clearing it’s throat. If it wants to go all 1883, we’ll see it in our sunsets for five years.
The virus, the volcano, Chernobyl burning.
re: #131 EPR-radar
This accuser’s stories have been all over the place for a long time, if this is the person I’m thinking of.
If so, then this just means a check from the RNC cleared.
re: #135 Kilroy was here
Statute of limitation means it won’t even be filed. 26 years… Seems she missed that he ran as VP twice and Senator several other times.
I was just referring to the shit-storm of social media screaming, not the actual facts of the case.
The chappos, Bruenigs and Jacobian types are going to loose it, publicly and super, super loudly.
(ETA: Sorry if I wasn’t clear about that.)
re: #134 austin_blue
Used as a shoot for Star Wars 7 and 8 as a Jedi Monastery. Actually *was* an old Xstian monastery.
Yep. Have many pics of the “beehives” at the top. I couldn’t do the whole climb. Figured I might make it up but would never make it down! Made my friends take lots of pics for me. Didn’t know about the star wars shoot. Bet it was fun getting the equipment up—there is a helicopter pad on the side of a cliff.
re: #122 gwangung
Geology I remember from my long ago working days at the USGS…
The biggest eruptions in years past have been, oddly, in the middle of continents or archipelagos, where heat jets are punching through continental crust. See below.
This makes good sense, as ocean jets punch through ocean crust, made of crustal material that *started* in the mantle, which has high melting temperatures, and when heated, oozes out as goo. These are ultramafic rocks- basalts mainly, made up olivine, amphibole, pyroxene, and biotite. In Hawaii, these smooth flowing lavas are called pahoehoe. When they get impeded they may become the jagged lava flows known as ah ah.
Continental bedrock material is made out of more solid stuff- granites, diorites, syenites, &c. Lots of mica, quartz, plagioclase, and orthoclase. They also have a lot of bound water in them. They are much stronger as crystalline rocks than ultramafics which are generally very fine-grained. They act as plugs to upper mantle jets. That’s one reason why there is lots of seismic activity on continental volcanoes before they go boom. The jets have to crack the overlying rock plugs.
But if the conditions are right, the jets heat the rock to the point where the residual water in them begins to change into steam. Keep in mind this begins at great depth, where the boiling point of water is not 212 degrees, but may well be over a thousand degrees because of the pressure at depth.
So when a continental volcano blows, it is often phrenetic and extraordinarily energetic, blowing huge volumes of dirt into the atmosphere. It is literally a pore into the upper mantle. Like squeezing a big zit.
The next bunch have had a few on islands or coastlines adjacent or directly above subduction zones. Nasty, but not like the Big Ones. Note that we haven’t had a Big One in the last 27,000 years. The last 7.1 was Tambora in 1815.
re: #102 Belafon
Do you have any pictures of the British burning down the White House?
(gets up, tops off Belafon’s drink, sits back down)
I just saw a take on Twitter that I’m gonna pray isn’t serious but was someone on the lefter side of the spectrum saying that “haha, isn’t it weird that right as socialism is starting to take root in America there’s suddenly a reason to be terrified of being near anyone else ever” and I am just self-aware enough to delete the reply instead of sending it.
re: #148 austin_blue
No, I know. I meant the reaction to the news, not the news itself. If you get my meaning.
Sorry if I phrased it badly. :(
Just wanted to apologize for not being as clear as I should have been in my original post.
Again, I was referring to the reaction to the news, not the news itself.
I’d delete it and rephrase, but it’s too late. So all I can say is sorry for any confusion I caused.
re: #148 austin_blue
I thought RF as soon as that garbage started.
re: #150 uriel
No, I know. I meant the reaction to the news, not the news itself. If you get my meaning.
Sorry if I phrased it badly. :(
No worries! The gaspers will gasp, but the truth will out, hopefully without too much damage for the hoi pilloi.
re: #152 Dave In Austin
I thought RF as soon as that garbage started.
Golly! Can you imagine Rat Fucking would play a part in American politics in this day and age?
Shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED!.
re: #152 Dave In Austin
I thought RF as soon as that garbage started.
Yeah, it’s pretty blatant RF’ing. It’s glaringly obvious.
Oofah, late.
She Who Must Be Obeyed needed to make some copies of some scores and went to the Home Despot on South Lamar to do so. Then she made a grocery run to the HEB at Congress and Oltorf (the Ocho!), so we are set up for about another week.
Still no bog roll available, but I got flour and yeast. So, fresh bread. Nice!
She’s putting together a remote duet for a new song out of Scotland, The Quarantine Reel for clarsach and flute, and sent the first video to her musical partner up near Lake Travis, (Jonestown? I think Jonestown.) part of a thirty minute ‘cast to be presented to a group of Eldercare facilities where they often play live.
It’s show biz.
Night all, sweet dreams in the shit hole of a country our Prexy has made for us.
Our Governor said yesterday he wants to open up the economy in Texas when he has absolutely no idea how bad the spread is because testing is just squat in rural Texas. And it’s going to be really bad.
Wow, new levels of MAGA
NEW: White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows is working with Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue on a possible plan to help U.S. farmers by reducing wages for foreign guest workers on American farms. https://t.co/bde2558h69
— NPR Politics (@nprpolitics) April 10, 2020
re: #21 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
went shopping today
mrs dm really did put all our eggs in one basket
that only applies to when you are carrying them…
re: #56 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
Easter island:
I wish I was a Moai in the ground…
re: #129 uriel
Well, tomorrow is going to be… fuck, I don’t know:
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She could have filed at any time in the past 27 years, she waits until the day after Bernie drops out to file a criminal complaint.
Oh, and her stated reason for filing now?
Reade said she filed the complaint against Biden for “safety reasons,” to establish a paper trail of the incident in case anything happened to her. The statute of limitations for the alleged incident has passed.
— Nicole Einbinder (@NicoleEinbinder) April 11, 2020
This woman is unwell.
re: #162 Targetpractice
She could have filed at any time in the past 27 years, she waits until the day after Bernie drops out to file a criminal complaint.
It’s straight-up ratfucking. It’s laughably blatant.
re: #164 Dr Lizardo
It’s straight-up ratfucking. It’s laughably blatant.
But it now has legs and her name will become a household word.
The narrative they will fall back on we be from “concerned” liberals (trolls) that there is “no difference” between the two “rapists” so why even bother to vote?
Have you checked with her friends ans acquaintances? No?
you might put that on your”Reporter” list.
My understanding is they say its bullshit. Plus the fact that you’re about 2 months late to the game. Kinda like #QuarantineDonny— And the Wind Cries “There Will Be Lots of Death!!” (@DaveoutofAustin) April 11, 2020
Every F**KING time Jason Statham brings back a hire car. Jesus wept. Delays in baggage reclaim. pic.twitter.com/dScrDHCGAf
— Stansaid Airport (@StansaidAirport) February 17, 2020
re: #167 Dave In Austin
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Yeah, I’d heard something similar, that family members other than the unnamed brother and friend have chimed in that she’s making all this up out of attention-seeking.
Really, there’s very little meat to this story. Even the most convinced Berners keep falling back on the same line: “LISTEN/WATCH HER RECOUNT OF THE ATTACK! THERE’S NO WAY SHE’S FAKING IT!”
To that, I say two words: Tawana Brawley.
re: #170 Targetpractice
When is this woman going to file anything? It’s been going on for YEARS… pic.twitter.com/BAz0ex2sVs
— WWLD? (What Would Larry Do?) (@WouldFine) April 11, 2020
re: #173 Dread Pirate
doubling every three days…
re: #173 Dread Pirate
Rong. They’re starting to REPORT lots of them…anybody want to take a bet that those stats are about a week or so behind reality?
It’s not the Berners or the MAGAts who are really hoping that Reade’s story goes somewhere that drive me up the wall. It’s the fence-sitters who want to try to avoid getting savaged by mumbling that they don’t outright believe her story, but think that it should be “investigated.” If you don’t find her story credible, then what reason is there to go forward with an investigation? Even the cops don’t devote an entire investigation to every claim that crosses their desks.
re: #177 Targetpractice
The news people love them a juicy sex scandal and this will keep viewers glued to the screens…
re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The news people love them a juicy sex scandal and this will keep viewers glued to the screens…
She tried shopping this to both Ronan Farrow and Faux, neither of whom took a bite. The filing of a criminal complaint may draw more attention, but I doubt the big networks are going to suddenly consider her credible and run with her allegations.
re: #179 Targetpractice
She tried shopping this to both Ronan Farrow and Faux, neither of whom took a bite. The filing of a criminal complaint may draw more attention, but I doubt the big networks are going to suddenly consider her credible and run with her allegations.
but remember how things work in the New Media Reality: this will be perpetuated massively by the Breitbarts and Freepers and Drudges in the Internet, and inasmuch as #TrendingonTwitter is a news item in itself, it will never fully go away.
re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
but remember how things work in the New Media Reality: this will be perpetuated massively by the Breitbarts and Freepers and Drudges in the Internet, and inasmuch as #TrendingonTwitter is a news item in itself, it will never fully go away.
It’s been trending on Twitter off-and-on for 2 weeks. If there was something there that the media could sink their teeth into, I think by now they’d have ran with it.
re: #181 Targetpractice
It’s been trending on Twitter off-and-on for 2 weeks. If there was something there that the media could sink their teeth into, I think by now they’d have ran with it.
there was nothing to e-mails Benghazi either, and they never went away.
My only real point here is that people on the right will continue to bring this up until Election Day.
re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
there was nothing to e-mails Benghazi either, and they never went away.
My only real point here is that people on the right will continue to bring this up until Election Day.
I was about to reply “Not if they’re smart,” but then I remembered who we’re talking about. Which is why they’ll run headfirst into that wall labeled “26 credible accusations of sexual harassment” standing right behind their golden calf. I mean, does Donny really want to have that conversation out loud, including E. Jean Carroll still waiting on the courts to compel him to provide a DNA sample as part of rape allegations?
re: #183 Targetpractice
I was about to reply “Not if they’re smart,” but then I remembered who we’re talking about. Which is why they’ll run headfirst into that wall labeled “26 credible accusations of sexual harassment” standing right behind their golden calf. I mean, does Donny really want to have that conversation out loud, including E. Jean Carroll still waiting on the courts to compel him to provide a DNA sample as part of rape allegations?
because the Magical Balance Fairy is oddly unbalanced…for Trump supporters, it does not matter. For Biden supporters, the charges are obviously contrived.
But again, the strategy is for undecideds is to have “concerned” liberals/moderates present the argument to undecideds that “they’re both rapists, there’s no real difference between them, why bother to vote?”.
re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
because the Magical Balance Fairy is oddly unbalanced…
The flip side to that is Burisma, the story that was a flash in the pan, before it got greater attention…as part of the Trump impeachment proceedings. Faux certainly went Full Metal Wingnut with it, but the major networks never really approached it any farther than as a cautionary tale of why family of politicians should avoid “the appearance of impropriety” by taking jobs that might raise questions of “favoritism.”
Not every anti-Dem story is automatically going to turn into a BSAB firestorm.
The right wing industry that spent decades convincing the willing that Hillary Clinton was behind the murders of many will do their bit again to convince the Trumpers that Biden is an abuser of women.
Of course it’s ironic that Trumpers will hold Biden to a standard they never will for Trump.
But that is part of the way things are in the culture wars and the slow, painful, troublesome death of a worldview built on magic, machismo, and malice.
Senator Al Franken would have been a good candidate.
The long and short of it is that there is something about Reade’s story or her actions that has warded off wingnuts up til now. I don’t really buy that Faux, with a story tailor-made to bring down a whole shitload of bad press on Biden’s head, would avoid the story unless there was something about it that stank to high heaven. As hungry as they and the BSAB press are, they’re all giving this story a wide berth despite it regularly trending and the cacophony of screaming by Berners and MAGAts alike about how the MSM is avoiding it to “protect Biden.”
Unless there was more evidence entered into her complaint than what she’s offered so far, the filing of it doesn’t really change the circumstances behind the story. Being so far past the SOL, the odds that it will receive a serious investigation are remote at best. So she’s not really risking anything by making the complaint beyond possible embarrassment if the press should dig into the story.
re: #188 Targetpractice
If Biden loses by 80,000 votes I’m going to be sort of pissed.
re: #189 Decatur Deb
If Biden loses by 80,000 votes I’m going to be sort of pissed.
Believe me, I’ll be right there with you. But I don’t think this is going to be what tips the scales.
re: #190 Targetpractice
Believe me, I’ll be right there with you. But I don’t think this is going to be what tips the scales.
In that kind of result, HRCs result, any one thing can be said to tip the scales. We are on the edge of becoming ungovernable.
re: #191 Decatur Deb
In that kind of result, HRCs result, any one thing can be said to tip the scales. We are on the edge of becoming ungovernable.
True enough. But I’ve a good feeling about this go around.
And no, it’s not a tingle in my leg. I’m on meds for that.//
re: #191 Decatur Deb
In that kind of result, HRCs result, any one thing can be said to tip the scales. We are on the edge of becoming ungovernable.
By the way, I can’t believe I totally missed an “eve of destruction” joke opportunity.
re: #47 Charles Johnson
COVID-19 is killing about the same as the seasonal flu, we don’t shut down the country for a flu.
COVID-19 is killing about the same as a flu with the shutdown. Without it we would be seeing many, many, more deaths.
re: #195 Targetpractice
By the way, I can’t believe I totally missed an “eve of destruction” joke opportunity.
Per a credible projection, if Trump and the governors lift the lockdowns as planned, we go into the Fall with a near-depression and a second wave of infections. The 100-200k death curves return.
int.nyt.com
But
With the current level of voter education, press malpractice, and poll suppression he might still win.
re: #90 goddamnedfrank
Well, that convinces me. Quitting Disney+ at the end of the free trial.
re: #198 Decatur Deb
Per a credible projection, if Trump and the governors lift the lockdowns as planned, we go into the Fall with a near-depression and a second wave of infections. The 100-200k death curves return.
int.nyt.comBut
With the current level of voter education, press malpractice, and poll suppression he might still win.
I have to be honest, I remember a lot of folks thinking that 2018 was going to be an “OK” year at best, that we’d take the House by a few votes and the Senate losses worse than they ended up being. The key when running elections against the GOP is to run the score up so much that there’s no way they can cheat themselves to victory.
I don’t say this enough, but whew @TomiLahren is truly dumb af: pic.twitter.com/wRu4b0GQQ1
— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) April 10, 2020
re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The news people love them a juicy sex scandal and this will keep viewers glued to the screens…
yup they don’t care it it’s true.
only if it’s something they can “report”
re: #202 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
yup they don’t care it it’s true.
only if it’s something they can “report”
And Fox can start reporting on how the “story” is brewing in the interwebs, bring out the howler monkeys to comment on it, and never seriously attempt to address the allegations themselves; e.g. the story is how people are talking about a story.
re: #188 Targetpractice
The long and short of it is that there is something about Reade’s story or her actions that has warded off wingnuts up til now. I don’t really buy that Faux, with a story tailor-made to bring down a whole shitload of bad press on Biden’s head, would avoid the story unless there was something about it that stank to high heaven. As hungry as they and the BSAB press are, they’re all giving this story a wide berth despite it regularly trending and the cacophony of screaming by Berners and MAGAts alike about how the MSM is avoiding it to “protect Biden.”
Unless there was more evidence entered into her complaint than what she’s offered so far, the filing of it doesn’t really change the circumstances behind the story. Being so far past the SOL, the odds that it will receive a serious investigation are remote at best. So she’s not really risking anything by making the complaint beyond possible embarrassment if the press should dig into the story.
I haven’t really been following the Joe Biden/Tara Reade flap much (I figure that if I wait long enough, enough “news” will come to me, like it or not), but I do seem to recall reading somewhere that her allegations had been looked into back in the day, and nothing much had come of them. 26 years on, it seems unlikely new “evidence” is going to surface: the malodor of rodent-copulation is fairly strong here.
re: #205 Teukka
I can believe that some people believe that. I went to the local Acme and there were two people with no gloves or masks in that market. When I went to check out the clerk knew about it and told me she had seen crazier things.
(Formatting this on my phone is hopeless.)
“Lubbock Business owner delivers call to action: ‘Let Lubbock Open’”
kcbd.com
“A call to action from a Lubbock businesswoman is gathering support and focusing the debate about when, and how, restrictions on local businesses should be lifted.
The effort, titled ‘Let Lubbock Open,’ was created by Walk-Ons owner Chanda Allen. Since its initial appearance on Facebook on Thursday, the post has since gone viral locally, with more than 890 shares and 685 comments as of Friday night.
“A call to action from a Lubbock businesswoman is gathering support and focusing the debate about when, and how, restrictions on local businesses should be lifted.
The effort, titled ‘Let Lubbock Open,’ was created by Walk-Ons owner Chanda Allen. Since its initial appearance on Facebook on Thursday, the post has since gone viral locally, with more than 890 shares and 685 comments as of Friday night.”
Allen’s business, Walk-Ons Sports Bistreaux and Bar, is a franchise theme-saloon on the west Loop.
re: #202 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
yup they don’t care it it’s true.
only if it’s something they can “report”
magical balance and all, and it is #TrendingonTwitter after all, that makes it “news” in and of itself, regardless of whether it has any innate value…
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!
Probably shouldn’t post so many tweets here but this is too cute to pass up:
First Taste Of Icecream
😀🍦 pic.twitter.com/92C6ncnca1— Capt.Harry (@Captgorowara) April 6, 2020
re: #211 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Tried tweeting #letlubbockdowhatseemssmartestatthetime, but it didn’t catch on.
It just dawned on me why trump and his cult want the country to open back up way too soon. They know minority areas are getting hit especially hard. They want to thin Biden’s voting pool. Am I really that late in figuring this out?
re: #217 GlutenFreeJesus
My tinfoil hat theory would be that the hope is for a 2nd-wave shutdown just in time to effectively cancel the election, but then I remember that none of these idiots actually plan anything, and they just run entirely on amygdala impulses.
re: #217 GlutenFreeJesus
It just dawned on me why trump and his cult want the country to open back up way too soon. They know minority areas are getting hit especially hard. They want to thin Biden’s voting pool. Am I really that late in figuring this out?
I think that is a bit too advanced…Trump still believes that just reopening the economy will get things back rolling in time to buoy him to re-election and has not really thought things through.
re: #217 GlutenFreeJesus
It just dawned on me why trump and his cult want the country to open back up way too soon. They know minority areas are getting hit especially hard. They want to thin Biden’s voting pool. Am I really that late in figuring this out?
In this case, I think that’s too complicated. Trump and those around him only understand things in terms of money. That’s it. He’s based his reelection on the strength of the economy. It falling apart is his nightmare, because his view of things is that simple. They only care about people in what they can contribute to some executive’s bank account.
re: #217 GlutenFreeJesus
It just dawned on me why trump and his cult want the country to open back up way too soon. They know minority areas are getting hit especially hard. They want to thin Biden’s voting pool. Am I really that late in figuring this out?
Hanlon’s razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”,
There is no dark, devious plot to kill minorities. The COVID-19 virus is going to kill the poor and uninsured regardless of race. I attribute it to a more base reason. Greed. tRump and his followers/enablers are losing money. LOTS of money. They are more than happy to see the working class/poor die as long as they are making it. Nothing more, nothing less.
Just my 2 cents.
I do mostly think it’s about the economy in Trump’s eyes. Then I remember Stephen Miller.
Holy shit that JFK Jr thread is insane. It would be completely hysterical if those weren’t people asking insane questions and believing ridiculous answers.
re: #222 GlutenFreeJesus
I do mostly think it’s about the economy in Trump’s eyes. Then I remember Stephen Miller.
Two-fer
re: #223 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
That is what happens when you dumb down education to a point where 1+ 1 = 3
re: #222 GlutenFreeJesus
I do mostly think it’s about the economy in Trump’s eyes. Then I remember Stephen Miller.
It’s the Economy, Stupid.
The economy for white people.
re: #226 BigPapa
It’s the Economy, Stupid.
The economy for white people.
Red states are also under-served in terms of medical care and will be hit hard in any resurgence.
re: #221 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire
Hanlon’s razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”,
Corollary: Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.
re: #228 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
Corollary: Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.
the effects are certainly nearly indistinguishable
re: #228 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
Corollary: Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.
Exactly. And it takes a special case of stupid to try certain things believing it won’t be obvious from parsec away what you’re up to.
Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear (D) has warned devout Christians that anyone attending Easter Sunday services will be forced to quarantine for 14 days after giving state police the mandate to take down attendees’ license plate numbers, CNN reports.The state says around six churches are planning to hold in-person services despite a stay-at-home order
and you know the responses already - religious persecution and all
why should we have to choose between exercising our religious rights and being surveilled and quarantined by ‘the state’?
sound perilously close to wisconsin asking ‘why should we have to choose between exercising our voting rights and our health”?
re: #228 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
Corollary: Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.
I can see where that could be true as well.
re: #164 Dr Lizardo
It’s straight-up ratfucking. It’s laughably blatant.
I think they know that no rational person will give this any attention and are playing to the not-entirely-deplorable base (there may be a few left in the repug camp). “The other guy is no better,” isn’t a great reason to stick with DT, but it’s all they have left.
re: #225 PhillyPretzel
That is what happens when you dumb down education to a point where 1+ 1 = 3
Personally, I think it starts with religion. This (and ghost hunting, etc.) is an extension of fantasy. Science is Satan. The Q people are highly “religious” (and deeply gullible and stupid) and it’s this combination that gives us Q people.
Education is a party of it but hardly all.
re: #129 uriel
Well, tomorrow is going to be… fuck, I don’t know:
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in a senate corridor, no less. almost as believable as those poor bastards who did time in jail for sexually abusing kids as part of a satanic cult. they were supposedly raping kids in a public forum.
re: #221 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire
Hanlon’s razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”,
There is no dark, devious plot to kill minorities. The COVID-19 virus is going to kill the poor and uninsured regardless of race. I attribute it to a more base reason. Greed. tRump and his followers/enablers are losing money. LOTS of money. They are more than happy to see the working class/poor die as long as they are making it. Nothing more, nothing less.
Just my 2 cents.
It started as just greed, but now there’s also the conservative prime directive - do the opposite of what experts and decent people want just to rub it in their face that you can and there’s nothing they can do about it. The emotional need to publicly transgress is a self-sustaining loop.
re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
But it now has legs and her name will become a household word.
Sure, if you make it one. I don’t plan to waste my time. And if someone brings it up, I will say something about credulity and naïveté (not using such big words).
re: #226 BigPapa
It’s the Economy, Stupid.
The economy for white people.
Here’s what Trump understands: in 2008, the economy got so bad Americans elected a black man.
re: #234 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
You are correct about religion too. As we have seen with elected officials who are so-called religious they have precious little general science and have major problems with what Dr Fauci has said.
re: #136 BeachDem
Wow, John Podesta’s been busy—in addition to JonBenet, he also grabbed Madeleine McCann (with his “crew”). Oh, and she’s currently in the U.S. Yikes.
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“and then something happened…” what the hell good is this guy for, if he doesn’t know what happened? We already know she’d been sold to Hillary. We want to know why.
re: #234 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Personally, I think it starts with religion. This (and ghost hunting, etc.) is an extension of fantasy. Science is Satan. The Q people are highly “religious” (and deeply gullible and stupid) and it’s this combination that gives us Q people.
Education is a party of it but hardly all.
I think one facet of it is the “anything goes” interpretation of freedom of speech and expression. Freedom of speech does not preclude the right of others to call bullshit on your speech, and it does not give you the right to put others in clear and present danger.
It is a freedom which needs to be used responsibly.
re: #233 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
I think they know that no rational person will give this any attention and are playing to the not-entirely-deplorable base (there may be a few left in the repug camp). “The other guy is no better,” isn’t a great reason to stick with DT, but it’s all they have left.
Sadly, it’s playing to another crowd, too: young and fairly low-information voters who were all in for Bernie.
I’ve got one on my FB timeline who’s loudly pushing the “they’re both rapists and I can’t and won’t vote for either one now” narrative.
Here’s the sad kicker: this person is a tremendous human being otherwise. Went down to south Texas last year to spend a week volunteering to help migrants. Has been organizing a grassroots campaign to get food and supplies donated and distributed to needy people in our city who can’t get out during the pandemic. Huge heart and good soul…
… and will either vote third party or not at all in November because of being taken in by this ratfucking.
re: #170 Targetpractice
Yeah, I’d heard something similar, that family members other than the unnamed brother and friend have chimed in that she’s making all this up out of attention-seeking.
Really, there’s very little meat to this story. Even the most convinced Berners keep falling back on the same line: “LISTEN/WATCH HER RECOUNT OF THE ATTACK! THERE’S NO WAY SHE’S FAKING IT!”
To that, I say two words: Tawana Brawley.
Gotta say, these many years later, that I agreed that Tawana Brawley was making things up when all that happened. But that was before Black Lives Matter and everything I have learned about the police and certain people. Now I’m not so sure, although it’s much too late to dig into that again.
This is promising.
Two-thirds of severe virus cases improved on experimental drug, early analysis shows
Gilead Sciences Inc.’s experimental drug for patients with severe Covid-19 infections showed promise in an early analysis, raising tentative hope that the first treatment for the novel virus may be on the horizon.
All received remdesivir for up to 10 days on a compassionate use basis, a program that allows people to use unapproved medicines when no other treatment options are available. Over 18 days, 68% of the patients improved, with 17 of the 30 patients on mechanical ventilation being able to get off the breathing device. Almost half of the patients studied were ultimately discharged, while 13% died. Mortality was highest among those who were on a ventilator, with 18% of them dying.
re: #234 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Personally, I think it starts with religion.
To be a Biblical Literalist Fundamentalist, you have to reject science, history and even logic. That makes people open to anyone who attacks those disciplines.
re: #146 austin_blue
The biggest eruptions in years past have been, oddly, in the middle of continents or archipelagos, where heat jets are punching through continental crust. See below.
This makes good sense, as ocean jets punch through ocean crust, made of crustal material that *started* in the mantle, which has high melting temperatures, and when heated, oozes out as goo. These are ultramafic rocks- basalts mainly, made up olivine, amphibole, pyroxene, and biotite. In Hawaii, these smooth flowing lavas are called pahoehoe. When they get impeded they may become the jagged lava flows known as ah ah.
Continental bedrock material is made out of more solid stuff- granites, diorites, syenites, &c. Lots of mica, quartz, plagioclase, and orthoclase. They also have a lot of bound water in them. They are much stronger as crystalline rocks than ultramafics which are generally very fine-grained. They act as plugs to upper mantle jets. That’s one reason why there is lots of seismic activity on continental volcanoes before they go boom. The jets have to crack the overlying rock plugs.
But if the conditions are right, the jets heat the rock to the point where the residual water in them begins to change into steam. Keep in mind this begins at great depth, where the boiling point of water is not 212 degrees, but may well be over a thousand degrees because of the pressure at depth.
So when a continental volcano blows, it is often phrenetic and extraordinarily energetic, blowing huge volumes of dirt into the atmosphere. It is literally a pore into the upper mantle. Like squeezing a big zit.
The next bunch have had a few on islands or coastlines adjacent or directly above subduction zones. Nasty, but not like the Big Ones. Note that we haven’t had a Big One in the last 27,000 years. The last 7.1 was Tambora in 1815.
“Keep in mind this begins at great depth, where the boiling point of water is not 212 degrees, but may well be over a thousand degrees because of the pressure at depth.”
Green bean pressure cooker temperature!
re: #221 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire
Hanlon’s razor: “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”,
There is no dark, devious plot to kill minorities. The COVID-19 virus is going to kill the poor and uninsured regardless of race. I attribute it to a more base reason. Greed. tRump and his followers/enablers are losing money. LOTS of money. They are more than happy to see the working class/poor die as long as they are making it. Nothing more, nothing less.
Just my 2 cents.
My thing is…just because there’s the obvious incompetence doesn’t mean that there isn’t malice there either. Yes, the greed and incompetence is behind the rush to ‘open the country up’. But there’s both the malicious contarianism plus malicious neglect where they may not be doing this precisely to undermine, disenfranchise, and kill minorities…but they also are willing to overtly and performatively not care that they’ll do that to minorities when told. They will go out of their way to double down on the neglect because it’s beneath them.
re: #236 Renaissance_Man
It started as just greed, but now there’s also the conservative prime directive - do the opposite of what experts and decent people want just to rub it in their face that you can and there’s nothing they can do about it. The emotional need to publicly transgress is a self-sustaining loop.
Yep, that is part of it all, isn’t it? It’s not an either or at this point. It’s both. It’s incompetence born out of malice. It’s proud ignorance that bases itself in opposition and spite to any sort of reason not just because they think they know better but because they have an inherent hate for those saying more reasonable things, thus they must do the exact opposite and pillory the others as devils to destroy.
One of my favorite breakfast, buttered toast with creamy peanut butter and jelly on top
Did anyone watch Jeopardy last night? There was a girl from Liberty University on. She seemed very sweet and had a great sense of humor. After scoring big on the Deuteronomy and Cats categories she mostly failed on everything else. I found that really sad.
re: #241 Teukka
I think one facet of it is the “anything goes” interpretation of freedom of speech and expression. Freedom of speech does not preclude the right of others to call bullshit on your speech, and it does not give you the right to put others in clear and present danger.
It is a freedom which needs to be used responsibly.
Freedom of speech press and religion are not anarchy of speech press and religion
re: #248 Shropshire Slasher
One of my favorite breakfast, buttered toast with creamy peanut butter and jelly on top
Ditto
but a sesame bagel
And chunky peanut butter
Ok so not so ditto
re: #203 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
And Fox can start reporting on how the “story” is brewing in the interwebs, bring out the howler monkeys to comment on it, and never seriously attempt to address the allegations themselves; e.g. the story is how people are talking about a story.
And yet this has been “brewing” for a while now, and none of that is happening. None of Jacob Wohl’s stories are getting any press, and Larry what’s-his-name has gone into a decline, it seems.
Okay, I’m done with this. The only place I’m hearing anything about it is here, from you guys, and frankly, I’m getting bored. Suppose we wait until something happens before creating an entire media campaign around it — this isn’t the RWNJ planning committee.
re: #253 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
New takes on old movie titles. It fits the times.
re: #251 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
Ditto
but a sesame bagel
And chunky peanut butter
Ok so not so ditto
I left the chunky PB out for those that are tactile sensitive.
I see that the ‘open America now’ hashtag is trending this morning.
Stupid people are literally going to be the death of us.
re: #242 i(m)p(each)sos
Sadly, it’s playing to another crowd, too: young and fairly low-information voters who were all in for Bernie.
I’ve got one on my FB timeline who’s loudly pushing the “they’re both rapists and I can’t and won’t vote for either one now” narrative.
Here’s the sad kicker: this person is a tremendous human being otherwise. Went down to south Texas last year to spend a week volunteering to help migrants. Has been organizing a grassroots campaign to get food and supplies donated and distributed to needy people in our city who can’t get out during the pandemic. Huge heart and good soul…
… and will either vote third party or not at all in November because of being taken in by this ratfucking.
Laughing at their naïveté will probably have more effect than rational argument. And waste less of your time.
“Houston, we’ve had a problem.” 50 years ago today, the Apollo 13 mission blasted off for the moon. The rest is history.
Read and watch: https://t.co/3n9FN32kur pic.twitter.com/1ZWJj6QIgE— AP Health & Science (@APHealthScience) April 11, 2020
re: #248 Shropshire Slasher
One of my favorite breakfast, buttered toast with creamy peanut butter and jelly on top
I was a fan of French toast with PB&J
re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I was a fan of French toast with PB&J
I don’t mind crunchy PB but prefer coarse grind over creamy smooth
re: #244 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
This is promising.
Sigh. One thing that makes finding effective treatments so hard is that the vast majority of patients will recover. anyway Unless someone finds a magic bullet (I’m for it), it’s going to take big, controlled studies to tell us what helps.
That said, remdesivir has been under consideration for a while now, and it might prove useful.
re: #263 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
Sigh. One thing that makes finding effective treatments so hard is that the vast majority of patients will recover. anyway Unless someone finds a magic bullet (I’m for it), it’s going to take big, controlled studies to tell us what helps.
That said, remdesivir has been under consideration for a while now, and it might prove useful.
Part of me hopes it’s a miracle drug just to show Trump, Fox, and the other wingers went chasing after the wrong drug.
re: #264 Belafon
Part of me hopes it’s a miracle drug just to show Trump, Fox, and the other wingers went chasing after the wrong drug.
I want a miracle drug so we can go back to our ordinary lives — I’d even be happy if it turned out to be hydrochloroquine (I can’t believe that I know how to spell that).
re: #81 BigPapa
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Important things to remember about Krakatoa:
1. It’s not Krakatoa, it’s Anak Krakatau. The original Krakatoa was completely destroyed in the 1883 eruption.
2. A lot of the footage I’ve seen being spread around on social media, for example, the tweet you posted, is from the 2018 eruption of Anak Krakatau. This eruption destroyed nearly three quarters of the peak, so it’s now got a much flatter appearance. Here’s footage of the 2018 eruption. The bit I’ve seen most shared is the blast starting around 2:39 on this clip.
re: #265 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
I want a miracle drug so we can go back to our ordinary lives — I’d even be happy if it turned out to be hydrochloroquine (I can’t believe that I know how to spell that).
Trump would be happier.
Again, that was his big Hail Mary play, and had it worked, it would have secured his re-election, made him a hero, genius, visionary, savior of millions (from an illness he originally branded a “hoax”) and would have sent all those elitist deep-state college-educated so-called “experts” back to their ivory towers to cringe in ignominy…
Which is why he just won’t give up on it. We still see articles describing how the “evil left” is “suppressing” studies that show its effectiveness because they hate Trump so much that they would rather see people die than see him turn out to be right…
re: #258 makeitstop
I see that the ‘open America now’ hashtag is trending this morning.
Stupid people are literally going to be the death of us.
not me
im not going out
i’m not ‘easing’ any of my behaviors - limited shopping, distancing, ppe
no one can make me
i am fortunate i can work from home, i have a yard, and i can run in my neighborhood
(and a pond project)
re: #264 Belafon
Part of me hopes it’s a miracle drug just to show Trump, Fox, and the other wingers went chasing after the wrong drug.
you know he’ll take credit anyway
he’s already announced a vaccine is coming ‘soon’. the way he teases everything (and then doesnt deliver)
yup. he’ll take credit.
re: #268 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
not me
im not going out
i’m not ‘easing’ any of my behaviors - limited shopping, distancing, ppe
no one can make me
i am fortunate i can work from home, i have a yard, and i can run in my neighborhood
(and a pond project)
ditto here. I got vineyards to hike in.
re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Trump would be happier.
Again, that was his big Hail Mary play, and had it worked, it would have secured his re-election, made him a hero, genius, visionary, savior of millions (from an illness he originally branded a “hoax”) and would have sent all those elitist deep-state college-educated so-called “experts” back to their ivory towers to cringe in ignominy…
Which is why he just won’t give up on it. We still see articles describing how the “evil left” is “suppressing” studies that show its effectiveness because they hate Trump so much that they would rather see people die than see him turn out to be right…
i thought all doctors were lefties anyway - you know sciency and all
what? all the medical journal editors got together and agreed….
how do you suppress every study?
it’s either done or not
it gets peer reviewed (hopefully) or it doesnt
it gets published or it doesnt
it gets independently replicated or it doesnt
what’s stopping any of that? nothing.
re: #270 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Same here. Caution is the key word.
Trump will push this by EOB Monday.
Betting that “herd immunity” saved California more than the shutdown. Virus was circulating in Calif early and undetected. “Herd immunity: What does this mean, and has it already happened in California?” - ABC7 Chicago https://t.co/Mu531XKhFM
— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) April 10, 2020
re: #234 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Personally, I think it starts with religion. This (and ghost hunting, etc.) is an extension of fantasy. Science is Satan. The Q people are highly “religious” (and deeply gullible and stupid) and it’s this combination that gives us Q people.
Education is a party of it but hardly all.
Heh. I just realized that Q stuff is starting to sound like some of the Shia Islam “Hidden Iman” variants where it gets a bit weird and twisted.
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Hi Twitter, a reminder that this is what Krakatau (not Krakatoa, that’s the wrong spelling) looks like. If you’re shown footage with a large cone erupting that is from before it collapsed in late 2018. The big cone is gone. Easy fact check. 31 March 2020 PlanetScope image. pic.twitter.com/OD83npJ9Ut
— Dr Janine Krippner (@janinekrippner) April 11, 2020
Those gorgeous videos you keep seeing of the Anak Krakatoa eruption? Those are from the eruption in 2018. The condition of the volcano doesn’t look like that anymore. It collapsed in 2018!And here is the latest footage of Anak Krakatoa’s eruption last night.#Krakatoa #Krakatau pic.twitter.com/7igeuyQdQ5
— vivi noviana (@vivinoviana75) April 11, 2020
What’s so screwed about letting the ignoramuses run free is it forces us to have to stay in isolation longer. Yes, they’ll likely cause themselves to die out faster, but not fast enough. The rest of us will have to maintain our isolation and displacement much longer to compensate for their carelessness and ignorance.
Assholes. No, massholes.
re: #274 BigPapa
Or before that possibly Saturday night into Sunday morning. He will try for opening up on Easter as he originally said.
re: #276 Alephnaught
Yeah, I figured the current Krakatoa was just a baby/other as the original was probably gone, it literally blew up in 1883. Didn’t know the video was from a few years ago. I heard it erupted in 2014.
re: #268 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
not me
im not going out
i’m not ‘easing’ any of my behaviors - limited shopping, distancing, ppe
no one can make me
i am fortunate i can work from home, i have a yard, and i can run in my neighborhood
(and a pond project)
Wife and I are staying a a very hard lockdown for another 3 weeks. Then we will re-assess. It’s slower here—AL is about a week behind most of the country.
We have a risk assessment technique for re-surfacing that includes the risk and consequences of any relaxation. That is: When do you visit a friend? When do you shop the aisles of a store? When do you eat at a sit-down? When do you get a haircut? When does she go to church? The order is argued from guesses at risk and payback, the actual intervals by reports of local infection rate.
re: #272 PhillyPretzel
Same here. Caution is the key word.
my ex GF invited me into town to play music with her this weekend
I don’t know what her agenda is, but I’m not biting
re: #281 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
my ex GF invited me into town to play music with her this weekend
I don’t know what her agenda is, but I’m not biting
That might be dangerous, and you could get sick, too.
re: #278 PhillyPretzel
Or before that possibly Saturday night into Sunday morning. He will try for opening up on Easter as he originally said.
It will be drowned out by the roars of laughter from every competent epidemiologist in the world. Only the twitterverse and the wingnut contingent will pay it any mind.
And this site, of course.
re: #282 Decatur Deb
That might be dangerous, and you could get sick, too.
big time. she cornered me the last time we showed up at the same party and really needed some sense of affirmation after being dumped by the guy she picked up on tinder who strung her along for a year or more.
we still hear from each other on FB, she sends a bad pun, I send a bad pun back, she wrote to offer me easter wishes (used to be a big holiday with us) and I mentioned that I cannot see my kids as they are with their mom in France and the border is closed, and that I cannot see my current GF up in Düsseldorf because she has to go into work every other day (by bus) and it is just not safe.
So ex GF asked if I want to come “play music” with her in Frankfurt.
I just told her it was not safe.
(in any sense)
re: #266 Alephnaught
Important things to remember about Krakatoa:
1. It’s not Krakatoa, it’s Anak Krakatau. The original Krakatoa was completely destroyed in the 1883 eruption.
2. A lot of the footage I’ve seen being spread around on social media, for example, the tweet you posted, is from the 2018 eruption of Anak Krakatau. This eruption destroyed nearly three quarters of the peak, so it’s now got a much flatter appearance. Here’s footage of the 2018 eruption. The bit I’ve seen most shared is the blast starting around 2:39 on this clip.[Embedded content]
Thank you. I’ve been screaming ANAK KRAKATAU for hours!!
Still blessed from reading
re: #264 Belafon
Part of me hopes it’s a miracle drug just to show Trump, Fox, and the other wingers went chasing after the wrong drug.
I’m really surprised trump et al didn’t go after this drug as it was the first mentioned and he could have liked like a fucking savant. But his pals likely don’t own this drug and there’s no money to be made.
BTW: even though I posted old video of a different eruption event of the wrongly named volcano, I still started it.
re: #274 BigPapa
Trump will push this by EOB Monday.
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anyone with a megaphone is a fucking infectious disease expert.
Ingraham doesnt know shit. none of them do.
do the fucking science before you open your goddamned mouth
Betting that “herd immunity” saved California more than the shutdown. Virus was circulating in Calif early and undetected. “Herd immunity: What does this mean, and has it already happened in California?” - ABC7 Chicago https://t.co/Mu531XKhFM
— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) April 10, 2020
re: #281 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
my ex GF invited me into town to play music with her this weekend
I don’t know what her agenda is, but I’m not biting
I got an invite to do a live-streaming thing called ‘Playing It Safe.’ A sound man friend of mine started it, and it’s pretty sophisticated as these things go - 3 camera shoot in a recording studio.
I initially signed on, but then after thinking about it for a day I called him back and canceled. Between me being in a prime risk group and my wife being immuno-depressed right now, it didn’t seem like a wise move. I may do it in a few weeks if it’s still going on.
re: #264 Belafon
Part of me hopes it’s a miracle drug just to show Trump, Fox, and the other wingers went chasing after the wrong drug.
Remdesivir has been approved for experimental use in treating COVID-19 by the Czech Ministry of Health. They’re gonna start trying it next week.
re: #277 BigPapa
What’s so screwed about letting the ignoramuses run free is it forces us to have to stay in isolation longer. Yes, they’ll likely cause themselves to die out faster, but not fast enough. The rest of us will have to maintain our isolation and displacement much longer to compensate for their carelessness and ignorance.
Assholes. No, massholes.
at least two of us don’t care
re: #1 b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)
After all this over I still want for you all to stay at least 6’ away from me.
As an introvert, I have been practicing for this all of my life!
and i never liked anybody anyway ;-)
re: #280 Decatur Deb
Wife and I are staying a a very hard lockdown for another 3 weeks. Then we will re-assess. It’s slower here—AL is about a week behind most of the country.
We have a risk assessment technique for re-surfacing that includes the risk and consequences of any relaxation. That is: When do you visit a friend? When do you shop the aisles of a store? When do you eat at a sit-down? When do you get a haircut? When does she go to church? The order is argued from guesses at risk and payback, the actual intervals by reports of local infection rate.
Fucking humans.
Some nurses at a New York hospital who had just been lauded for their work during the coronavirus pandemic ended their overnight shifts to find their tires had been slashed. https://t.co/mLOtOIKlLC
— The Associated Press (@AP) April 11, 2020
re: #292 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
For maxiumum safety, all ya’ll need to stay 6 posts away from me.
re: #233 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
I think they know that no rational person will give this any attention and are playing to the not-entirely-deplorable base (there may be a few left in the repug camp). “The other guy is no better,” isn’t a great reason to stick with DT, but it’s all they have left.
re: #164 Dr Lizardo
It’s straight-up ratfucking. It’s laughably blatant.
Talked last week with an anti-Trump friend of mine who keeps very late hours. She was watching some program at midnight (or later) hosted by Christiane Amanpour and Tara Reade was the guest. She was very concerned about the effect this could have on the election. And recently I’ve seen FB posts by commenters who assert that they cannot vote for rapists — and both sides are rapists now.
It would not be surprising, given E. Jean Carroll’s recent fame for her charges against Trump, that this was manufactured (possibly with Putin’s help) to serve as a counterweight to the widespread legitimate accusations against Trump. Remember how in one of the debates, Trump brought in as his guests the women who had allegations against Bill. Trump is a master at media manipulation because the media is so eager to be manipulated.
Burisma allegations failed, at least partly, when the Ukraine extortion attempt was revealed. But Trump is guaranteeing that there will be no future honest whistleblowers or federal investigations as long as he holds the office. It would not be surprising if Barr decides to open an inquiry into Tara’s allegations in order to keep this front and center and distract from the ongoing Trump-created pandemic disaster.
These guys aren’t “conservative pundits” they are fringe lunatics @nytimes. Ridiculous to cite a Qanon fan with zero expertise complaining about COVID impact models. pic.twitter.com/Gv5yvKIwEB
— Tommy Vietor (@TVietor08) April 11, 2020
The world is running out of ‘fuck this shit’ gifs trying to keep up with this shit.
re: #295 BigPapa
For maxiumum safety, all ya’ll need to stay 6 posts away from me.
im keeping my wireless keyboard 6’ from the monitors…
re: #286 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
I’m really surprised trump et al didn’t go after this drug as it was the first mentioned and he could have liked like a fucking savant. But his pals likely don’t own this drug and there’s no money to be made.
I could be wrong, but I think Remdesivir has to be administered by IV. It will never be a widely available panacea for the masses.
re: #258 makeitstop
I see that the ‘open America now’ hashtag is trending this morning.
Stupid people are literally going to be the death of us.
My Morgan Stanley investment adviser and FB friend is on this bandwagon because he is a market über alles type of guy. He’s guided by economists and not epidemiologists; and only RW typish economists. His livelihood depends on the economy recovering and, like most of these people, doesn’t see widespread deaths as a barrier to returning to “normal”. My guess is that if the medical experts were saying that CFR was 10%, rather than the 1% they originally claimed, he might be supporting a different strategy.
re: #300 calochortus
I could be wrong, but I think Remdesivir has to be administered by IV. It will never be a widely available panacea for the masses.
Yep. There’s going to be no ‘miracle cure’ for this, not this soon in. There just really is no such thing as a ‘miracle cure’.
re: #289 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
anyone with a megaphone is a fucking infectious disease expert.
Ingraham doesnt know shit. none of them do.
do the fucking science before you open your goddamned mouth
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This.
I will make no claim to any sort of serious (or even casual) expertise in the least regarding epidemics, but even I can see this nonsensical crap as a sterling example of “misleading headlines”. Even leaving aside the odds that, coming from Laura Ingraham, it’s wingnut bullshit in any case.
So: one doctor’s opinion/theory/SWAG that “California”* actually had a COVID-19 outbreak late last year? And that said outbreak somehow affected “50-60%” of the folks there so “herd immunity”? And thus “proving” that the whole state ought to “open up again”?
Jeez: even this Hoover Institute sawbones admits that without widespread (REALLY widespread) testing**, for the precise strain of coronavirus, etc, this is just so much hot air: but that ABC station still ledes the article as if this is some sort of real thing. Our media on the job again….. ///
*all 39.5M people over all 163.696 sq mi, seemingly
** still not happening. In California or anywhere. AFAIK.
re: #299 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
im keeping my wireless keyboard 6’ from the monitors…
I have a 55” tv as a monitor and wireless keyboard/mouse which I can stay 6’ away from. This is prophylactic social media.
re: #303 Jay C
This.
I will make no claim to any sort of serious (or even casual) expertise in the least regarding epidemics, but even I can see this nonsensical crap as a sterling example of “misleading headlines”. Even leaving aside the odds that, coming from Laura Ingraham, it’s wingnut bullshit in any case.
So: one doctor’s opinion/theory/SWAG that “California”* actually had a COVID-19 outbreak late last year? And that said outbreak somehow affected “50-60%” of the folks there so “herd immunity”? And thus “proving” that the whole state ought to “open up again”?
Jeez: even this Hoover Institute sawbones admits that without widespread (REALLY widespread) testing**, for the precise strain of coronavirus, etc, this is just so much hot air: but that ABC station still ledes the article as if this is some sort of real thing. Our media on the job again….. ///*all 39.5M people over all 163.696 sq mi, seemingly
** still not happening. In California or anywhere.
I assume by “Hoover Institute sawbones” you mean Victor Davis Hanson, a classisist and military historian? Not an MD or anything close.
I also wonder, if we all had it in Dec. how did we fail to notice tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths while picking up this herd immunity?
re: #303 Jay C
This.
I will make no claim to any sort of serious (or even casual) expertise in the least regarding epidemics, but even I can see this nonsensical crap as a sterling example of “misleading headlines”. Even leaving aside the odds that, coming from Laura Ingraham, it’s wingnut bullshit in any case.
So: one doctor’s opinion/theory/SWAG that “California”* actually had a COVID-19 outbreak late last year? And that said outbreak somehow affected “50-60%” of the folks there so “herd immunity”? And thus “proving” that the whole state ought to “open up again”?
Jeez: even this Hoover Institute sawbones admits that without widespread (REALLY widespread) testing**, for the precise strain of coronavirus, etc, this is just so much hot air: but that ABC station still ledes the article as if this is some sort of real thing. Our media on the job again….. ///*all 39.5M people over all 163.696 sq mi, seemingly
** still not happening. In California or anywhere.
As someone here pointed out, many types of common cold are a coronavirus and these tests are probably detecting those antibodies and not any protection against COVID 19.
re: #296 Hecuba’s daughter
Talked last week with an anti-Trump friend of mine who keeps very late hours. She was watching some program at midnight (or later) hosted by Christiane Amanpour and Tara Reade was the guest. She was very concerned about the effect this could have on the election. And recently I’ve seen FB posts by commenters who assert that they cannot vote for rapists — and both sides are rapists now.
The one radical left site I follow is all in on this. They were already big on the “There’s no difference between Trump, Obama and Stalin” narrative (bit of an exaggeration, but they’re also big on executing anybody who makes over $100,000 per year. That’s for another time.) They’re strongly feminist and already hated Biden, so this was just the push they needed to go full “I’ll take four more years of Trump and 100,000 COVID-based American deaths over Biden.”
I forgot who posted it here originally but Amanda Marcotte at Salon took a deep dive into the “Biden is a rapist” accusations, and there are a lot of red flags. I hate even having to type that, given how monstrously horrible the US treats female sexual assault victims. This woman could be on the level, but Good Lord, the amount of inconsistencies in the narrative are upsetting.
Then again, this is all it takes. The idiot “independents” and the VBSBBBs (Voting Booth Suicide Bomber Bernie Bros) were just looking for any reason to stay home. If this is indeed ratfucking by either the GOP or the Russians (or both), it’s fucking textbook.
re: #303 Jay C
This.
I will make no claim to any sort of serious (or even casual) expertise in the least regarding epidemics, but even I can see this nonsensical crap as a sterling example of “misleading headlines”. Even leaving aside the odds that, coming from Laura Ingraham, it’s wingnut bullshit in any case.
So: one doctor’s opinion/theory/SWAG that “California”* actually had a COVID-19 outbreak late last year? And that said outbreak somehow affected “50-60%” of the folks there so “herd immunity”? And thus “proving” that the whole state ought to “open up again”?
Jeez: even this Hoover Institute sawbones admits that without widespread (REALLY widespread) testing**, for the precise strain of coronavirus, etc, this is just so much hot air: but that ABC station still ledes the article as if this is some sort of real thing. Our media on the job again….. ///*all 39.5M people over all 163.696 sq mi, seemingly
** still not happening. In California or anywhere. AFAIK.
I read a Slate article this morning that said noted epidemiologist //// Victor Davis Hanson is playing a role in driving this impossibility.
re: #306 Hecuba’s daughter
As someone here pointed out, many types of common cold are a coronavirus and these tests are probably detecting those antibodies and not any protection against COVID 19.
Also, Stanford is conducting a study of how many people have antibodies. I believe they started a week or two ago (time has lost all meaning.) They could not possibly have produced actual results and released them yet.
re: #280 Decatur Deb
Wife and I are staying a very hard lockdown for another 3 weeks. Then we will re-assess. It’s slower here—AL is about a week behind most of the country.
We have a risk assessment technique for re-surfacing that includes the risk and consequences of any relaxation. That is: When do you visit a friend? When do you shop the aisles of a store? When do you eat at a sit-down? When do you get a haircut? When does she go to church? The order is argued from guesses at risk and payback, the actual intervals by reports of local infection rate.
5 more weeks here. Even grocery pickup is hard to get. Delivery? Fuggetaboutit. So looking at how to really safely shop for 2 homes all at once. Gloves, mask and bandana, enough disinfectant for all the goods. Get to the stores, get to the addresses, Then maybe dump those clothes in a bag at home, shower, fresh clothes. Then do the laundry. Thinking about the garden bag trick for a coverall. It’s easy to gt complacent. But at the top of the curve here.
I’ll bet Trump has also slept on the beach and woken up with crabs, too!
Herpethetically speaking, this probably isn’t the first virus Trump has had to deal with.
— Amish PornStar™ (@AmishPornStar1) March 10, 2020
Someone tell these idiots we did not get a spike in hospitalizations for the early flu at a rate that would confer herd immunity! Twenty minutes reading tells me herd immunity is eight or nine of ten people at large to work. And that comes from vaccines. Some immunity? Sure but not the “herd” by any helpful definition.
There’s a lot of wishful thinking around making the coronavirus go away. People are getting tired of being at home with no idea when or how they’ll be able to resume anything approaching a normal life, even if this isn’t destroying their finances.
Most people don’t believe they themselves will die if they get sick.
There will be more and more pressure to “open things up.”
The rightwing mindset in one handy bar graph.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) April 11, 2020
I am reading more reports of people who have become re-infected. So “herd immunity” is not looking like a viable option.
re: #309 calochortus
Also, Stanford is conducting a study of how many people have antibodies. I believe they started a week or two ago (time has lost all meaning.) They could not possibly have produced actual results and released them yet.
Well, Hoover has offices at Stanford. The big brain doctor in the middle of the study is a Hoover bro. Victor Davis Hanson lives in Central CA. It’s all very cozy. In case any of you missed it I made a Page about this 36 hours ago.
If a disease is not all that contagious, a lower percentage works for herd immunity. For COVID at 3x more contagious than the flu, certainly airborne, surfaces, any close contact…. That would have to be a very high number.
re: #305 calochortus
I assume by “Hoover Institute sawbones” you mean Victor Davis Hanson, a classisist and military historian? Not an MD or anything close.
I also wonder, if we all had it in Dec. how did we fail to notice tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths while picking up this herd immunity?
No. I was referring to the doctor quoted on the linked ABC Chicago piece: he was cited as having a Hoover Institute connection.
VDH’s maunderings about COVID-19 are just a different flavor of stupid.
Jay Bhattacharya and Eran Bendavid are the two big brains driving the Stanford study. I read Eran’s CV and Stanford bio: super credible. I’ve not read Jay’s yet.
Jay and Eran’s OpEd from March 24:
Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say? - WSJ
Here’s Jay ‘interviewed’ by a Hoover bro. Note the intellectual DNA of denialism in the first few minutes:
re: #318 Jay C
No. I was referring to the doctor quoted on the linked ABC Chicago piece: he was cited as having a Hoover Institute connection.
VDH’s maunderings about COVID-19 are just a different flavor of stupid.
Ah, my bad.
Czech nudists told to wear face masks by police
LOL. Just imagine the tan lines.
re: #309 calochortus
Also, Stanford is conducting a study of how many people have antibodies. I believe they started a week or two ago (time has lost all meaning.) They could not possibly have produced actual results and released them yet.
I just emailed NIH about joining this trial for investigation into SARS-CoV-2 antibodies. The study is expected to go through 2022. No real science has been done on antibody occurrence throughout the population
re: #321 Rightwingconspirator
Czech nudists told to wear face masks by police
LOL. Just imagine the tan lines.
And that’s a true story too. The cops didn’t mind the nude sunbathing….but you have to wear a mask when outdoors.
Damn, seems like only yesterday Ford told NYC to “drop dead”
This time Trump really means it.
“… Analysis from Kaiser Health found that states like Minnesota, Nebraska and Montana are getting more than $300,000 per reported COVID-19 case, while New York, the hardest-hit state, is receiving roughly $12,000 per case. Florida, which is also grappling with a serious outbreak, is getting $132,000 per case. …”
Analysis: Some states getting $300,000 per coronavirus case, New York getting $12,000 https://t.co/qvVC3pu5oI pic.twitter.com/ufFQ1ySfLr
— The Hill (@thehill) April 11, 2020
re: #324 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
He is trying to get NY to drop the investigation into his so-called enterprises. All I have to say Go SDNY.
I get the feeling it’s 2016 all over again.
Hoover’s main headquarters appears to literally be on the Stanford campus.
(puts on tinfoil hat, headphones, and safety googles)
The US is now the country with the most c-virus deaths.
Another point to note about “CA herd immunity” is the infection curve when we started counting in March. Exponential. Statewide shelter-in-place on March 19. Exponential growth continues for about another two weeks, then starts leveling off. I don’t see how to reconcile that with herd immunity.
re: #327 BigPapa
Hoover’s main headquarters appears to literally be on the Stanford campus.
(puts on tinfoil hat, headphones, and safety googles)
Yes, it’s a part of Stanford.
i see *so many* right wing blogs and news sites pop up. theyre invested in evangelizing their message and no, it isn’t a money thing. just do it. please.
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) April 11, 2020
https://t.co/kVVgWVcSIXhttps://t.co/2Ts7MKNjkdhttps://t.co/c01ARLoBE6just do it. waiting for someone to create “the liberal fox news” is abdicating responsibility.
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) April 11, 2020
Again…I love Oliver most times, and nominally agree with him here, but at the same time, it’s also…not a solution? We should be putting more left wing and liberal voices out there to begin with, but it’s also not going to be the solution to the right wing inundation. More voices is fine, but it’s not going to stem the tide for several reasons:
1) Funding. Many of these ‘pop-up’ blogs and sites are, unsurprisingly, not just enterprising solo activists and voices just doing their part. They’re part of well funded machines that put this shit out by long-running and bottomless money machines that have a vested interest in continued conservative dominance. Which brings me to…
2) Influence. Again, many of these ‘new voices’ have backing, from organizations that already have their fingers deep in the process. They’re the ones that can instantly promote this shit and make it widespread out of the box where a genuine grassroots voice will struggle screaming into the void.
3) Weighted Scale. Look at the Cletus Safaris. A handful of putzes in a rural diner are repeatedly lifted up as the real and only voice of America when you have millions in urban areas who are just…ignored, treated as if they don’t exist. And the fact that many of those diner putzes are in fact GOP apparatchiks doesn’t seem to affect anything and in fact just keeps the media coming back for more. A genuinely ‘new’ voice doing things just to get the word out has to compete with a media that already takes GOP word from all over as law. And this was true even back in the heyday of the netroots, where liberal voices dominated over the internet but were still mostly drowned out in mainstream influence by key handfuls of conservative blogs.
Again, Oliver seems to find a way to ascribe more power to Dems and liberals than they functionally have. That doesn’t mean not fighting, but it’s a lot more than simply putting in the effort, which Oliver seems content to pretend that Dems and LIberals just don’t do.
(That doesn’t forgive the genuine cowards we do have in Party Leadership, but good god…)
EDIT: Typo fix
re: #327 BigPapa
Hoover’s main headquarters appears to literally be on the Stanford campus.
(puts on tinfoil hat, headphones, and safety googles)
Their library is conveniently located in Hoover Tower. The actual offices are somewhere else I think.
edit: Still on campus, no doubt.
If Covid-19 was in CA in late November we’d have been burying bodies in trenches in early March.
Somebody needs to ask the good big brains how they hypothecized it was in CA that early and that we might have some herd immunity.
I suspect one or both of these plucky and intrepid scientists have some child college accounts invested in testing companies that just so happen to test for COVID antibodies.
re: #333 Hecuba’s daughter
Most REPORTED Covid-19 deaths. I go along with those who believe that China is concealing far more deaths.
Unfortunately, at the same time, we have a lot of states here that seem to want to follow the same game plan and pretend the shit doesn’t exist so they can rush to open things up and get headpats from Dear Leader.
re: #276 Alephnaught
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Krakatoa is the proper spelling if you’re talking about the movie.
1969, all-star cast, state of the art special effects (for 1969 it was state of the art; today, it looks like something you could do with an app on your phone) the first of the big disaster movies.
It was wrong in every way possible. Starting with the title, Krakatoa, East of Java. Because it’s actually west of Java.
re: #319 BigPapa
Jay Bhattacharya and Eran Bendavid are the two big brains driving the Stanford study. I read Eran’s CV and Stanford bio: super credible. I’ve not read Jay’s yet.
Jay and Eran’s OpEd from March 24:
Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say? - WSJHere’s Jay with a Hoover bro. Note the intellectual DNA of denialism in the first few minutes:
hoover.org
So: I read the linked Stanford piece with Dr. Bhattacharya’s interview, and man! While Jay himself sounds like he knows what he’s about, the rhetorical contortions trying to thread his way between proper science and outright denialism are something to behold.
I mean, they are right (or at least not too-wholly-wrong) to posit that estimates of COVID-19 deaths in the millions MAY be overblown, or just worst-case scenarios: but despite an admission that this pandemic is super-serious, I still didn’t get much from that interview in the way of credible alternative projections.
Though he did keep harping on one point (though not in the way I would, but IANADr, so never mind): the “denominator”: i.e. the unfortunate and inescapable fact that we STILL do not know a lot about the SARS-CoV-2 virus and its effects - and most vitally, even a reasonable gauge of how many people have it/have had it: the bedrock data of epidemiology. Which is still lacking due to the unavailability of universal or as-near-to-universal-as-possible testing.
re: #335 Citizen K
Unfortunately, at the same time, we have a lot of states here that seem to want to follow the same game plan and pretend the shit doesn’t exist so they can rush to open things up and get headpats from Dear Leader.
But it’s not just those states. Due to inadequate number of tests available, people who have died at home aren’t necessarily getting tested to verify cause of death.
re: #338 Hecuba’s daughter
But it’s not just those states. Due to inadequate number of tests available, people who have died at home aren’t necessarily getting tested to verify cause of death.
That too sadly, yeah. But just saying that we seem to have states that want to outright hide the numbers on top of the ones that just can’t keep up with the numbers.
re: #337 Jay C
Jay is right in saying ‘we just don’t know’ and is correct to state we need to study. But I’m getting a strong vibe of ‘we just don’t know so all this crazy social distancing and stay at home is questionable.’ It’s almost as if he’s trying to prove the latter, not the former.
Ignores the question: which side do you want to err on? ‘Saving’ the economy or mass deaths? If we don’t know, and we can’t afford to be sure, which side is it?
This is why the Hoover bros like VDH latched onto it. They want to keep asking those questions.
re: #317 Rightwingconspirator
If a disease is not all that contagious, a lower percentage works for herd immunity. For COVID at 3x more contagious than the flu, certainly airborne, surfaces, any close contact…. That would have to be a very high number.
The simplest disease models assumes the percent infected will level off at around 1-1/R0 as a percent of the population.
So if we assume an overall R0 of 2.3 for COVID-19 that means we need roughly 56.5% infected (or vaccinated.)
re: #340 BigPapa
Jay is right in saying ‘we just don’t know’ and is correct to state we need to study. But I’m getting a strong vibe of ‘we just don’t know so all this crazy social distancing and stay at home is questionable.’ It’s almost as if he’s trying to prove the latter, not the former.
Ignores the question: which side do you want to err on? ‘Saving’ the economy or mass deaths? If we don’t know, and we can’t afford to be sure, which side is it?
This is why the Hoover bros like VDH latched onto it. They want to keep asking those questions.
Mass deaths are rarely good for the economy anyway.
And it goes right along with “let’s just ‘protect’ those who are vulnerable and let everyone else go about their business.” Which sounds great for a minute, but what it really means is that if you are older or have a health problem you get to be under virtual house arrest for who knows how long. If people are out there sharing viruses, the vulnerable really can’t go out at all.
re: #342 calochortus
Yup. How would 4m dead in 3-6 months affect the economy? (Imperial College Do Nothing/Worst Case model)
And yes, the higher risk would be on house arrest for probably a year.
Make your best shocked face. https://t.co/FYgY3wekoj
— Markos Moulitsas (@markos) April 11, 2020
re: #329 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
Another point to note about “CA herd immunity” is the infection curve when we started counting in March. Exponential. Statewide shelter-in-place on March 19. Exponential growth continues for about another two weeks, then starts leveling off. I don’t see how to reconcile that with herd immunity.
someone also needs to point out that CA has the nation’s strictest emissions limits laws (not just cars, it’s for factories too). Filters on smokestacks, smog devices on cars, more electric cars than any other state.
This could make a big difference for a respiratory illness.
re: #341 goddamnedfrank
The simplest disease models assumes the percent infected will level off at around 1-1/R0 as a percent of the population.
So if we assume an overall R0 of 2.3 for COVID-19 that means we need roughly 56.5% infected (or vaccinated.)
No way did an “early flu” that was really COVID do that. Makes no sense by the numbers. I read a paper this morning, very recent. R5.6 for COVID. Measles is R18.
re: #338 Hecuba’s daughter
But it’s not just those states. Due to inadequate number of tests available, people who have died at home aren’t necessarily getting tested to verify cause of death.
We can still follow a spike in such deaths. It’s hard to think of another cause that would explain that.
I think it’s time to pretend that life is normal and I have things to accomplish.
Laterz.
re: #345 sagehen
someone also needs to point out that CA has the nation’s strictest emissions limits laws (not just cars, it’s for factories too). Filters on smokestacks, smog devices on cars, more electric cars than any other state.
This could make a big difference for a respiratory illness.
I should think that would affect the death rate and number of cases requiring hospitalization rather than the infection rate, but we don’t yet know much about why the more vulnerable are more vulnerable. Or who is just naturally resistant.
re: #348 calochortus
I think it’s time to pretend that life is normal and I have things to accomplish.
Laterz.
I’m deciding whether to have a ” normal” day or crack the last box of thin mints and eat them all.
re: #314 Teddy’s Person
The rightwing mindset in one handy bar graph.
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It is a graph of Republican outrage.
We are going to have to wait for legitimate sources to publish their findings which will take some time. For right now we can look to the well known university hospitals and see how they are handling this virus.
re: #350 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
I’m deciding whether to have a ” normal” day or crack the last box of thin mints and eat them all.
Do you have some ice cream to taper off with?
re: #331 Citizen K
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Again…I love Oliver most times, and nominally agree with him here, but at the same time, it’s also…not a solution? We should be putting more left wing and liberal voices out there to begin with, but it’s also not going to be the solution to the right wing inundation. More voices is fine, but it’s not going to stem the tide for several reasons:
1) Funding. Many of these ‘pop-up’ blogs and sites are, unsurprisingly, not just enterprising solo activists and voices just doing their part. They’re part of well funded machines that put this shit out by long-running and bottomless money machines that have a vested interest in continued conservative dominance. Which brings me to…
2) Influence. Again, many of these ‘new voices’ have backing, from organizations that already have their fingers deep in the process. They’re the ones that can instantly promote this shit and make it widespread out of the box where a genuine grassroots voice will struggle screaming into the void.
3) Weighted Scale. Look at the Cletus Safaris. A handful of putzes in a rural diner are repeatedly lifted up as the real and only voice of America when you have millions in urban areas who are just…ignored, treated as if they don’t exist. And the fact that many of those diner putzes are in fact GOP apparatchiks doesn’t seem to affect anything and in fact just keeps the media coming back for more. A genuinely ‘new’ voice doing things just to get the word out has to compete with a media that already takes GOP word from all over as law. And this was true even back in the heyday of the netroots, where liberal voices dominated over the internet but were still mostly drowned out in mainstream influence by key handfuls of conservative blogs.Again, Oliver seems to find a way to ascribe more power to Dems and liberals than they functionally have. That doesn’t mean not fighting, but it’s a lot more than simply putting in the effort, which Oliver seems content to pretend that Dems and LIberals just don’t do.
(That doesn’t forgive the genuine cowards we do have in Party Leadership, but good god…)
EDIT: Typo fix
It would have been better if we could have defeated Hitler by convincing the German people they he was wrong. But when they’re dropping bombs, you have to reply.
We aren’t going to convince most of the media to not both sides. But, if we have stories and links, we can mix our message in the google searches, and have those stories mentioned with the right wing ones.
Thread (likely to keep growing for a bit) (already has since I typed that)
JUST POSTED:As the death toll continues to rise in the US, The NYT takes a deep look at the weeks of inaction by President Trump despite growing alarm by some of his top health & WH advisers w @SangerNYT @shearm @maggieNYT @MarkMazzettiNYT @julianbarnes https://t.co/Wul1et0hlL
— Eric Lipton (@EricLiptonNYT) April 11, 2020
They were talking about asymptomatic transmission on Feb. 23rd
This alarm reached to near the top at HHS, when solid evidence emerged that people without any symptoms were spreading COVID19. It meant the whole US strategy to contain it was flawed. Dr. Kadlec is in charge of COVID19 at HHS. pic.twitter.com/Rdqh0dQWvR
— Eric Lipton (@EricLiptonNYT) April 11, 2020
re: #337 Jay C
So: I read the linked Stanford piece with Dr. Bhattacharya’s interview, and man! While Jay himself sounds like he knows what he’s about, the rhetorical contortions trying to thread his way between proper science and outright denialism are something to behold.
I mean, they are right (or at least not too-wholly-wrong) to posit that estimates of COVID-19 deaths in the millions MAY be overblown, or just worst-case scenarios: but despite an admission that this pandemic is super-serious, I still didn’t get much from that interview in the way of credible alternative projections.
Though he did keep harping on one point (though not in the way I would, but IANADr, so never mind): the “denominator”: i.e. the unfortunate and inescapable fact that we STILL do not know a lot about the SARS-CoV-2 virus and its effects - and most vitally, even a reasonable gauge of how many people have it/have had it: the bedrock data of epidemiology. Which is still lacking due to the unavailability of universal or as-near-to-universal-as-possible testing.
Confession time here: Due to personal deeply-held biases, I consider membership or association with certain institutions absolutely discrediting of any thesis by experts with these associations. They are so blinded by their political allegiances they filter out any contrary evidence. The Hoover Institution is one such organization. Jay Bhattacharya is not only a physician, he is also an economist. Be very skeptical of any assertion he makes, because his views are governed by a pernicious right-wing economics agenda, otherwise he would not be a member of this group.
re: #355 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Wow, this back and forth following Donny’s televised national address (remember that disaster?)
re: #353 Barefoot Grin
Do you have some ice cream to taper off with?
Sadly, no. Although it’s awfully chilly here for ice cream.
re: #356 Hecuba’s daughter
Confession time here: Due to personal deeply-held biases, I consider membership or association with certain institutions absolutely discrediting of any thesis by experts with these associations. They are so blinded by their political allegiances they filter out any contrary evidence. The Hoover Institution is one such organization. Jay Bhattacharya is not only a physician, he is also an economist. Be very skeptical of any assertion he makes, because his views are governed by a pernicious right-wing economics agenda, otherwise he would not be a member of this group.
The Hoover Institute has been on my similar list for a long time.
re: #329 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!
Another point to note about “CA herd immunity” is the infection curve when we started counting in March. Exponential. Statewide shelter-in-place on March 19. Exponential growth continues for about another two weeks, then starts leveling off. I don’t see how to reconcile that with herd immunity.
It’s complete nonsense. It is a made-up story pushed with the agenda of pretending that a) Covid isn’t bad, because Californians all got it and didn’t even notice, and b) lockdowns didn’t do anything. It’s a theory without any evidence at all. But in the modern media world, it can easily become reality. That’s the point of pushing it.
pandemic? what pandemic?
“Trump did a deal with Japan. A lot of our product goes to Japan, and we are booming in North Dakota.” Jim on C Span, Washington Journal. Our Trade Deals will be having a big impact on our Country as they kick in!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 11, 2020
An Easter parade- lambs with bells on pic.twitter.com/Ml38uHjZqC
— Suzanna Crampton (@ZwartblesIE) April 10, 2020
This is you, predicting the future pic.twitter.com/8oXmeywPul
— Don Moynihan (@donmoyn) April 11, 2020
re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth
pandemic? what pandemic?
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So now he’s tweeting praise from some rando that calls C-SPAN?
Womp womp. https://t.co/0rGOuqJJLs
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) April 11, 2020
just got this in my spam / in box
should county beaches re-open only to county residents?
idiocy
as if the virus cares
re: #305 calochortus
I assume by “Hoover Institute sawbones” you mean Victor Davis Hanson, a classisist and military historian? Not an MD or anything close.
I also wonder, if we all had it in Dec. how did we fail to notice tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths while picking up this herd immunity?
!
re: #314 Teddy’s Person
The rightwing mindset in one handy bar graph.
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i posted a variant the other day
it’s not complete without the butter emails / 0,000,000
I just set up my old Nordic Trak. Everything on it seems to be in the right places. Later I will check to see if the little electronic mileage meter still works.
re: #369 PhillyPretzel
I just set up my old Nordic Trak. Everything on it seems to be in the right places. Later I will check to see if the little electronic mileage meter still works.
You also need a calorimeter, calibrated to read out in Big Macs
re: #333 Hecuba’s daughter
Most REPORTED Covid-19 deaths. I go along with those who believe that China is concealing far more deaths.
yeah i was wrong
looks like china just stopped reporting when they hit roughly 82k infections
this is new infections / daily
i dont see how this is possible
re: #371 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
yeah i was wrong
looks like china just stopped reporting when they hit roughly 82k infectionsthis is new infections / daily
i dont see how this is possible
And we still hear the RW talking point: “China LIED! How could they do that to us? They never lied before about anything!!!”
Afternoon Lizardim from the wild north country, where it is warm… for now. It’s going to get cold, and then tomorrow it’s going to snow. Minnesota is up 91 new cases, to 1427; 1510 new tests, up to 35404; 7 new deaths, to 64. Governor Walz has authorized the release of addresses of contagious individuals to the Minnesota Department of Public Safety, the government organization that oversees our first responders. The intent is that dispatchers can inform EMTs, police officers, and firefighters if they are being deployed near individuals who are believed to be contagious. DPS is required to delete the data once the person(s) at that address are believed no longer to be contagious. How go things among the lizardfolk on the eve of this Easter storm?
re: #352 PhillyPretzel
We are going to have to wait for legitimate sources to publish their findings which will take some time. For right now we can look to the well known university hospitals and see how they are handling this virus.
R’s trust the scientific method?
hah
re: #374 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
R’s trust the scientific method?
hah
As I mentioned yesterday, ours don’t. That’s why the MDH (Minnesota Department of Health) released this yesterday: mn.gov
This is Minnesota’s internal model, which the Governor and the rest of the administration in St. Paul have been using to guide the state through the pandemic. The Republicans in the Capitol have been complaining that he is being too cautious because the IHME model is far more optimistic, but as previously discussed, they are ignoring the reasons why it is more optimistic.
re: #357 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Wow, this back and forth following Donny’s televised national address (remember that disaster?)
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except they are not making decisions based on ‘intuition’
it’s based on PR, reelection politics, and lining his pockets
re: #368 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
i posted a variant the other day
it’s not complete without the butter emails / 0,000,000
The crazy thing about all of these memes and graphics is as soon as they’re posted to the internet, the numbers are most likely out of date.
I’m still trying to wrap around the sheer enormity of this pandemic, a couple of months in.
re: #371 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
yeah i was wrong
looks like china just stopped reporting when they hit roughly 82k infectionsthis is new infections / daily
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Theoretically it is possible if a nation really shut down for 10 weeks (as they did) and stopped the virus in its tracks. But highly unlikely. Especially given the (unsubstantiated) rumors that there at least 45,000 deaths with a million cases (numbers that are consistent with China’s 4% death rate). There were were reports of people whose deaths were attributed to pneumonia, instead of Covid-19. At the beginning of the epidemic, it would not be surprising if they had no clue about what was actually happening. But once they uncovered the cause, they reverted to their normal cover-up routine.
re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth
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if modeling isnt ‘scientific’ then you cant use it to predict ‘tax cuts will pay for themselves’
deal?
Just said on Apple and Onion, a show on Cartoon Network: “It’s like lying is the secret weapon to winning elections.”
re: #374 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
True. The R’s do not trust anything but others do.
re: #379 I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)
if modeling isnt ‘scientific’ then you cant use it to predict ‘tax cuts will pay for themselves’
deal?
That’s not the way it works. Modeling by Republicans and conservative economists is scientific; modeling by anyone else is biased and illegitimate, even when it does a better job at predicting the future.
re: #369 PhillyPretzel
I just set up my old Nordic Trak. Everything on it seems to be in the right places. Later I will check to see if the little electronic mileage meter still works.
fwiw, i mostly stopped counting running by mileage a few years ago
unless im training and need to know paces, i go by time - ie “im gonna run for an hour”
re: #382 Hecuba’s daughter
That’s not the way it works. Modeling by Republicans and conservative economists is scientific; modeling by anyone else is biased and illegitimate, even when it does a better job at predicting the future.
The only true models are those that confirm what Republicans believe. //
re: #375 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
As I mentioned yesterday, ours don’t. That’s why the MDH (Minnesota Department of Health) released this yesterday: mn.gov
This is Minnesota’s internal model, which the Governor and the rest of the administration in St. Paul have been using to guide the state through the pandemic. The Republicans in the Capitol have been complaining that he is being too cautious because the IHME model is far more optimistic, but as previously discussed, they are ignoring the reasons why it is more optimistic.
assumptions are everything
Back to the Nordic Trak: The little meter works and my iPad fits perfectly in the magazine holder. The pull cords need a little dusting.
re: #382 Hecuba’s daughter
That’s not the way it works. Modeling by Republicans and conservative economists is scientific; modeling by anyone else is biased and illegitimate, even when it does a better job at predicting the future.
oh
my bad
;-)
re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth
“Jim on C-Span”. Is that Jake from Statefarm’s cousin?
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