Seth Meyers on Trump’s Fox News Feedback Loop [VIDEO]

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 10:34:38am

Trump is incapable of formulating a plan beyond winning the news cycle today. That is why we are going to see hundreds of thousands of deaths.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2020 • 10:35:29am

Following up from downstairs:

I don’t know, did the Founders have much experience with Coronavirus?

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 10:38:00am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Gouverneur Morris wanted to mention it in the Space Force amendment.

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Dr. Matt  May 5, 2020 • 10:38:54am

*Shudders*

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 10:41:44am

re: #458 danarchy

Doesn’t sound like it to me.

“As a young black girl growing up in Mississippi, I learned that if I didn’t speak up for myself, no one else would,” she said on NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday. “My mission is to say out loud if I’m asked the question, ‘Yes, I would be willing to serve.’”

businessinsider.com

Interesting. I confused what she actually said, which is she wouldn’t run for the Georgia Senate seat.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 10:42:26am

From the previous thread.

re: #438 jaunte

This lying, cowardly jackass Ratcliffe.

re: #461 Anymouse 🌹🏡

The Supreme Court Chief Justice of Wisconsin is Patience Roggensack.

Ratcliffe is still a liar and coward though. Justice Roggensack is a wholly owned subsidiary of Koch Industries.

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 10:43:01am

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹🏡

Yes, pasted the wrong clip.

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jeffreyw  May 5, 2020 • 10:45:50am

Soup’s On!

Kind of a hot and sour vibe with this chicken noodle soup.

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 10:46:39am
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gocart mozart  May 5, 2020 • 10:46:54am
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lawhawk  May 5, 2020 • 10:47:42am

re: #8 jeffreyw

What’s in that soup. I see carrots, jalapenos, onions, cilantro/parsley, some kind of noodle, and is that egg? Also, what’s the spice blend you added at the end?

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Jay C  May 5, 2020 • 10:48:44am

OOPS! On my comment on the last thread about Senate races, I mistook my “Steves from Montana”, it’s (D) Gov. Steve Bullock who is in the lead in that poll over incumbent (R) Senator Steve Daines.

Sorry: I’ll pay more attention to the scorecard next time…

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 10:49:39am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Following up from downstairs:

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I don’t know, did the Founders have much experience with Coronavirus?

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Please reference the u.s. Constitution…

I did. There’s a tenth amendment in there

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 10:50:33am

re: #4 Dr. Matt

*Shudders*

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No
Just fuck no.

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lawhawk  May 5, 2020 • 10:51:08am

re: #14 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Nuke it from orbit.

That’s the only way to be sure.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 10:52:02am

The ghouls of the anti-vacc movement, such as Wakefield and RFK Jr, are working to profit off of coronavirus, supporting batshit insane conspiracy theories while pushing their own crap for sale. washingtonpost.com

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Teukka  May 5, 2020 • 10:53:02am

re: #4 Dr. Matt

*Shudders*

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Dr. Matt  May 5, 2020 • 10:54:32am

Don’t know if this is sarc

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 10:55:08am

“…Some people are asymptomatic but can still be carriers of the virus and transmit it to others. Others are infected and die quickly. Science doesn’t have a complete answer yet for what distinguishes one patient from the other. Until then, Dallow says “it’s literally impossible to predict who you may infect and how severely you may infect them.”
health.usnews.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 10:55:41am

re: #14 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

No
Just fuck no.

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This writers are going way over the top this season. Fucking giant murder hornets? Give me a break!

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John Hughes  May 5, 2020 • 10:56:51am

re: #4 Dr. Matt

Getting close to big enough for an AR15 to be useful.

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lawhawk  May 5, 2020 • 10:57:02am

re: #20 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This writers are going way over the top this season. Fucking giant murder hornets? Give me a break!

What’s next? Sharks with frickin laser beams?

Sharkandos? Because that’s where we are headed.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 10:58:17am

re: #15 lawhawk

Nuke it from orbit.

That’s the only way to be sure.

Didn’t they already try that in 1945?
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Charles Johnson  May 5, 2020 • 10:58:22am
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lawhawk  May 5, 2020 • 10:59:16am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 10:59:27am

re: #19 jaunte

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“…Some people are asymptomatic but can still be carriers of the virus and transmit it to others. Others are infected and die quickly. Science doesn’t have a complete answer yet for what distinguishes one patient from the other. Until then, Dallow says “it’s literally impossible to predict who you may infect and how severely you may infect them.”
health.usnews.com

So Rand is already in the “Fuck you, I already have immunity.” phase. How nice.

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lawhawk  May 5, 2020 • 10:59:58am

re: #23 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

That’s what Monarch wants you to think /

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BlueSpotinAL  May 5, 2020 • 11:01:38am

re: #423 lawhawk (about Trump buying OANN)

Well, OANN going bankrupt (the ultimate denouement of any Trump business venture) would be a plus.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2020 • 11:02:17am

re: #25 lawhawk

“Breaking via NYT: Trump administration officials are telling members of the coronavirus task force that the White House plans to wind down the operation and it’s not clear whether any other group might replace it.”

So basically they are sending the referees home at Halftime and leaving the players on their own to figure out how to play the rest of the game.

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Charles Johnson  May 5, 2020 • 11:03:07am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 5, 2020 • 11:03:34am

re: #25 lawhawk

They are clearly going with the “If you don’t test or count the deaths, there are no deaths from this disease” strategy, and the GOP states are falling right in line. They especially don’t care if most of the deaths are among minorities. The Wisconsin ruling confirms that perspective. GOP delenda est!

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Targetpractice  May 5, 2020 • 11:03:44am

re: #25 lawhawk

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Classic GOP strategy: Make half-assed effort, then declare “victory” prematurely so that the country may “move on.”

The next step is already happening: Attacking any who point out that the crisis/war/etc is still ongoing for not wanting to accept “victory” because Republicans are in charge.

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jeffreyw  May 5, 2020 • 11:05:29am

re: #11 lawhawk

What’s in that soup. I see carrots, jalapenos, onions, cilantro/parsley, some kind of noodle, and is that egg? Also, what’s the spice blend you added at the end?

Carrots, celery, onions, broccoli, jalapenos, and chicken with fettuccine in a broth thickened with lots of corn starch. It has five spice and garlic for the flavor with fish sauce and sesame oil. Aleppo peppers and a splash of seasoned rice vinegar for the hot and sour. 71/2 minute steamed eggs. Hot chili oil as a topping with parsley because fuck cilantro. A chopped broccoli leaf because it was right there on the cutting board. (Fettuccine instead of ramen because I wanted to see how the Fasta Pasta did with it. It did a good job.)

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Barefoot Grin  May 5, 2020 • 11:05:41am

I had that thought this morning and I have to believe that Stephen Miller and maybe others gamed out which populations would be most vulnerable and probably said out loud why it would be a good thing for America if they mostly died.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:07:50am

re: #20 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This writers are going way over the top this season. Fucking giant murder hornets? Give me a break!

And murder turkeys.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 11:09:38am

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

“Breaking via NYT: Trump administration officials are telling members of the coronavirus task force that the White House plans to wind down the operation and it’s not clear whether any other group might replace it.”

So basically they are sending the referees home at Halftime and leaving the players on their own to figure out how to play the rest of the game.

Declare victory and send Pence’s group home with some NDA or something banning them from saying anything. Meanwhile, Jared’s shadow group is entrenched and grifting or extorting money via hijacking PPE and getting various agencies to spend money on drugs or equipment their cronies have serious investments in.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:10:15am

re: #25 lawhawk

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:10:34am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡

And murder turkeys.

And assault chickens.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 11:11:25am

re: #19 jaunte

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“…Some people are asymptomatic but can still be carriers of the virus and transmit it to others. Others are infected and die quickly. Science doesn’t have a complete answer yet for what distinguishes one patient from the other. Until then, Dallow says “it’s literally impossible to predict who you may infect and how severely you may infect them.”
health.usnews.com

This is the selfish micro view
In macro land how do we know who’s who? And whos lying about it

This is “I’m a good driver so the rules don’t apply to me”

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Charles Johnson  May 5, 2020 • 11:11:35am
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Targetpractice  May 5, 2020 • 11:11:52am

We’re right around the “Mission Accomplished” banner moment and moving towards the “You don’t support the troops enough!” period.

When we hit the 100,000 milestone in a couple months, we’ll then hit the “TROOP SURGE!” moment where the administration is forced to admit they way overestimated how well the effort was going, but insist that it’s “all part of the plan.”

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John Hughes  May 5, 2020 • 11:13:50am

re: #19 jaunte

Rand is such a well informed medical professional that he’s never heard of the Dengue second infection effect. We have no reason to believe Sars-CoV-2 works like that, but also no reason the believe it doesn’t(*).

Or, possibly more realistically, we know that resistance to some coronaviruses is weak, and weakens with time, maybe the same thing is true for Sars-CoV-2. Rand could be saying something as dumb as “Oh, I had the common cold, never get that again, will I”.

(* Actually, I have a vague memory that one experimental vaccine for an earlier coronavirus had the unfortunate side effect of making reinfections almost 100% lethal. An animal coronavirus vaccine? Can’t remember the details).

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 11:15:08am

re: #41 Targetpractice

We’re right around the “Mission Accomplished” banner moment and moving towards the “You don’t support the troops enough!” period.

When we hit the 100,000 milestone in a couple months, we’ll then hit the “TROOP SURGE!” moment where the administration is forced to admit they way overestimated how well the effort was going, but insist that it’s “all part of the plan.”

Anyone still alive will greet us as liberators //

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John Hughes  May 5, 2020 • 11:15:57am

re: #38 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And assault chickens.

Last night playing Fallout 76 I ran across an NPC who was fleeing crying out that a chicken was going to kill him. That news story is probably a publicity stunt by Bethesda.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 11:16:45am

re: #42 John Hughes

Rand is such a well informed medical professional that he’s never heard of the Dengue second infection effect. We have no reason to believe Sars-CoV-2 works like that, but also no reason the believe it doesn’t(*).

Or, possibly more realistically, we know that resistance to some coronaviruses is weak, and weakens with time, maybe the same thing is true for Sars-CoV-2. Rand could be saying something as dumb as “Oh, I had the common cold, never get that again, will I”.

(* Actually, I have a vague memory that one experimental vaccine for an earlier coronavirus had the unfortunate side effect of making reinfections almost 100% lethal. An animal coronavirus vaccine? Can’t remember the details).

While what Rand is saying may be true (or not), you can’t manage crowds and populations with that kind of “I’m an exception” thinking

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 11:17:09am
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Targetpractice  May 5, 2020 • 11:17:30am

re: #44 John Hughes

Last night playing Fallout 76 I ran across an NPC who was fleeing crying out that a chicken was going to kill him. That news story is probably a publicity stunt by Bethesda.

Damnit, Todd Howard!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:17:33am

re: #38 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And assault chickens.

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 11:17:34am

More evidence that Rand Paul stands for himself only.

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Sherlock Hound  May 5, 2020 • 11:17:57am

re: #41 Targetpractice

We’re right around the “Mission Accomplished” banner moment and moving towards the “You don’t support the troops enough!” period.

When we hit the 100,000 milestone in a couple months weeks, we’ll then hit the “TROOP SURGE!” moment where the administration is forced to admit they way overestimated how well the effort was going, but insist that it’s “all part of the plan.”

FTFY

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The Pie Overlord!  May 5, 2020 • 11:18:10am

I want to get off this planet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 11:18:31am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:18:58am

re: #45 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

While what Rand is saying may be true (or not), you can’t manage crowds and populations with that kind of “I’m an exception” thinking

Libertarians all think they are the exception.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:19:29am

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can relate.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 5, 2020 • 11:19:44am

Question re anti-vaxx movement: Are they hostile to all vaccines? So they would have been against smallpox vaccine and they refuse to have their children get the polio vaccine?

Those who have these views have the luxury of living in a society where children don’t routinely die of infectious diseases. If they were in 1950’s America, they would be demanding vaccinations to protect their children.

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 11:20:12am

re: #45 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

While what Rand is saying may be true (or not), you can’t manage crowds and populations with that kind of “I’m an exception” thinking

Rand has no idea if it’s true or not. He’s just talking about his feelings.

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 11:20:38am

Emo-ing our way to extinction.

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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 11:20:55am

re: #38 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And assault chickens.

Remember that movie After Earth with Will Smith, how the earth decided it was time for humans to leave?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:21:05am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I can relate.

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We really dodged a bullet in Kentucky when Beshear defeated Bevin last November.

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John Hughes  May 5, 2020 • 11:21:36am

re: #45 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

While what Rand is saying may be true (or not), you can’t manage crowds and populations with that kind of “I’m an exception” thinking

Some people have proposed issuing “coronavirus passports” to people who’ve had the disease, so they can move around freely while other people are in lockdown. Scientists pointed out the foolishness of that idea since we don’t actually have a clue whether having had the virus gives immunity. It’s a new disease. We don’t know.

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KGxvi  May 5, 2020 • 11:22:11am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

“Please refer to the Constitution”

Ok…

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

So, power to institute public health orders are reserved to the States.

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 11:22:16am
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mmmirele  May 5, 2020 • 11:22:34am

re: #55 Hecuba’s daughter

Oh God, these anti-vaxxers will tell you we don’t have major polio, diphtheria, measles, etc. outbreaks anymore because the streets and cities are cleaner. IOW, it wasn’t the vaccines that did in these dangerous diseases, it was cleanliness. You can’t even talk sense into these people.

The germ theory of disease just does not exist for the anti-vaxxer bunch.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:23:19am

re: #60 John Hughes

Some people have proposed issuing “coronavirus passports” to people who’ve had the disease, so they can move around freely while other people are in lockdown. Scientists pointed out the foolishness of that idea since we don’t actually have a clue whether having had the virus gives immunity. It’s a new disease. We don’t know.

I hope so. I saw on MSNBC that the S.Korean CDC said it does confer immunity. Fingers crossed!

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calochortus  May 5, 2020 • 11:24:08am

re: #53 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Libertarians all think they are the exception.

Thing is, he’s probably correct. But so what? I have virtually no chance of having covid. When I walk on a trail in the great outdoors and pass someone with a separation of about 6’ I don’t think I would pass viruses even if I were sick. Do I enjoy wearing a mask? No, not really. Do I wear a mask so I can flip it up to cover my nose and mouth when I do meet someone on the trail? Why yes, I do. It shows concern and respect for others.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:24:37am

re: #62 jaunte

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As his lt.gov. Dan Patrick said, the elderly should be happy to die for the greater good.

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Barefoot Grin  May 5, 2020 • 11:25:15am

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A college roommate’s family owned a meatpacking plant in St. Cloud, MN. I don’t know if it still exists, but if so, that might be part of the reason.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 11:25:38am

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

I want to get off this planet.

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well its not like it’s doing anything

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:25:56am

re: #55 Hecuba’s daughter

Question re anti-vaxx movement: Are they hostile to all vaccines? So they would have been against smallpox vaccine and they refuse to have their children get the polio vaccine?

Those who have these views have the luxury of living in a society where children don’t routinely die of infectious diseases. If they were in 1950’s America, they would be demanding vaccinations to protect their children.

There was an antivax movement when the first smallpox vaccine came out.

During colonial days, when a smallpox outbreak occurred in Massachusetts, Cotton Mather (of witch-hanging fame) researched potential means to prevent the spread. He found from reading medical texts of the day that the Ottoman Empire had imported inoculation from India, and consulted with physicians in the colony. He ordered all persons in the colony to be inoculated, which was met by resistance from Congregational Church pastors, who viewed smallpox as the Will of God.

After having those pastors arrested and jailed, the inoculation programme proceeded and the epidemic was halted.

When Jenner’s vaccine came out, anti-vaxxers insisted that it would do things like cause cows to grow from boils. All sorts of pro- and anti-vax political cartoons were published in the years afterward.

Anti-vaxxers today insist that smallpox was “naturally eradicated.” They insist the vaccine had nothing to do with it.

Anti-vaxxers are a religious faith every bit as much as conservatism is.

The Vaccine Poison Tree
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2020 • 11:26:13am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I’ve owned chickens before. While for the most part they are timid and non-aggressive (hence why “chicken” is an adjective for a coward), every so often they WILL lash out and while they won’t do you any serious harm, they can certainly make your day miserable if they decide come at you in full pecking mode.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 5, 2020 • 11:26:23am

re: #66 NO SMOCKING GUN!

As his lt.gov. Dan Patrick said, the elderly should be happy to die for the greater good.

And as the Wisconsin GOP judge implied, minorities should be willing to die for the rest of us.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 11:26:47am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I can relate.

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ditto. i dont care what they ‘reopen’

i will not personally sacrifice to this carnage
i will not accept or promote this carnage as some kind of perverse new normal

i’m not leaving the house or doing anything differently

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2020 • 11:27:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 11:27:29am

moron is still whining about the ad

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:28:21am

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve owned chickens before. While for the most part they are timid and non-aggressive (hence why “chicken” is an adjective for a coward), every so often they WILL lash out and while they won’t do you any serious harm, they can certainly make your day miserable if they decide come at you in full pecking mode.

Nazi chicken
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The Pie Overlord!  May 5, 2020 • 11:28:35am
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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 11:29:27am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is still whining about the ad

Let him. They’re next ad can be about him whining.

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Barefoot Grin  May 5, 2020 • 11:29:45am
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calochortus  May 5, 2020 • 11:29:45am

re: #71 Hecuba’s daughter

And as the Wisconsin GOP judge implied, minorities should be willing to die for the rest of us.

Because we would never have anything spread into the community from minorities?

There are a lot of reasons I want the people producing my food to have safe working conditions and decent pay, but from a strictly selfish point of view, it’s likely to result in a much more healthful supply of food.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 11:29:46am

re: #63 mmmirele

Oh God, these anti-vaxxers will trll you we don’t have major polio, diphtheria, measles, etc. outbreaks anymore because the streets and cities are cleaner. IOW, it wasn’t the vaccines that did in these dangerous diseases, it was cleanliness. You can’t even tslk sense into these people.

The theory of disease just does not exist for the anti-vaxxer bunch.

it started with
- they’re dangerous
- they were never ‘properly tested’
- they contain mercury (thimerosal)

and morphed into the whole concept / all vaccines are bad

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:30:04am

re: #71 Hecuba’s daughter

And as the Wisconsin GOP judge implied, minorities should be willing to die for the rest of us.

They have certainly exposed themselves. Remember the Death Panel lie, when they pretended to worry that the elderly would be denied health care? Now we know, the GOP values money more than their lives.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2020 • 11:30:15am

One of the replies on the story about Trump shutting down the Coronavirus task force muses that if that happens, why can’t Fauci come before the House at that point?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 11:31:11am

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve owned chickens before. While for the most part they are timid and non-aggressive (hence why “chicken” is an adjective for a coward), every so often they WILL lash out and while they won’t do you any serious harm, they can certainly make your day miserable if they decide come at you in full pecking mode.

no
just peck no.

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calochortus  May 5, 2020 • 11:31:28am

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

One of the replies on the story about Trump shutting down the Coronavirus task force muses that if that happens, why can’t Fauci come before the House at that point?

He will no longer be relevant?
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John Hughes  May 5, 2020 • 11:31:41am

re: #64 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I hope so. I saw on MSNBC that the S.Korean CDC said it does confer immunity. Fingers crossed!

I assume that was a misquote or misinterpretation by MSNBC. There is no way the SK CDC could know. This is a new disease. It’s entirely possible that any “immunity” that is conferred lasts as long as the “immunity” conferred by catching the common cold(*), maybe a couple of months. We have no way at all of knowing whether that is true or not.

I’m not trying to be alarmist, I’m just saying we shouldn’t assume things with no evidence.

(* Roughly 20% of the “common cold” is caused by coronaviruses).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:33:14am

re: #72 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

ditto. i dont care what they ‘reopen’

i will not personally sacrifice to this carnage
i will not accept or promote this carnage as some kind of perverse new normal

i’m not leaving the house or doing anything differently

“Opening up the economy” has always been about optics, not solutions to economic problems. There is no way they can force people to go out to businesses unless they want to.

They can force people to choose between their job or their health, but I imagine the long-term implication of that is people will either flip legislatures in elections or anyone who can afford to will move away for good.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 5, 2020 • 11:33:15am

re: #72 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

ditto. i dont care what they ‘reopen’

i will not personally sacrifice to this carnage
i will not accept or promote this carnage as some kind of perverse new normal

i’m not leaving the house or doing anything differently

Unfortunately, many out there don’t have the choice. My sister and I were discussing how fortunate we are that we can weather this out because we are retired, don’t have luxurious lifestyles, and have sufficient financial resources to handle this crisis. Of course, that premise will not hold if we descend into a Mad Max world, but it looks like we are going with the Senator Ron Johnson policy that our country can lose 3% of our population, easy peasy.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:33:21am

re: #83 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

no
just peck no.

My mil was once attacked by her son’s rooster, which was very aggressive in protecting it’s hens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 11:33:57am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:34:16am

re: #81 NO SMOCKING GUN!

They have certainly exposed themselves. Remember the Death Panel lie, when they pretended to worry that the elderly would be denied health care? Now we know, the GOP values money more than their lives.

It is projection with those assholes, always.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 5, 2020 • 11:34:22am

re: #20 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This writers are going way over the top this season. Fucking giant murder hornets? Give me a break!

Hell even the Master Of Disaster, Irwin Allen, never went there!

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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 11:35:08am

re: #85 John Hughes

I assume that was a misquote or misinterpretation by MSNBC. There is no way the SK CDC could know. This is a new disease. It’s entirely possible that any “immunity” that is conferred lasts as long as the “immunity” conferred by catching the common cold(*), maybe a couple of months. We have no way at all of knowing whether that is true or not.

I’m not trying to be alarmist, I’m just saying we shouldn’t assume things with no evidence.

(* Roughly 20% of the “common cold” is caused by coronaviruses).

To be more specific, what the South Koreans are saying is that people develop antibodies to the virus. There was some doubt about it earlier because some of the SK tests after infection were coming back negative, but further review showed that it was the test for the antibodies that was failing.

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Charles Johnson  May 5, 2020 • 11:35:23am
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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 11:35:35am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡

“Opening up the economy” has always been about optics, not solutions to economic problems. There is no way they can force people to go out to businesses unless they want to.

They can force people to choose between their job or their health, but I imagine the long-term implication of that is people will either flip legislatures in elections or anyone who can afford to will move away for good.

Optics and kicking people off of unemployment.

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Barefoot Grin  May 5, 2020 • 11:36:10am

A moderate earthquake just hit Tokyo’s northern suburbs (mag. 4) and Tokyo (mag. 3) at 1:57AM. I hated those middle of the night earthquakes. No reports of injury or damage.

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BeachDem  May 5, 2020 • 11:36:17am

re: #19 jaunte

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“…Some people are asymptomatic but can still be carriers of the virus and transmit it to others. Others are infected and die quickly. Science doesn’t have a complete answer yet for what distinguishes one patient from the other. Until then, Dallow says “it’s literally impossible to predict who you may infect and how severely you may infect them.”
health.usnews.com

Guess who just got back today
Them wild-eyed boys that had been away
Haven’t changed that much to say
But man, I still think them cats are crazy

Boys Are Back In Town Thin Lizzy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 11:36:18am
98
Interesting Times  May 5, 2020 • 11:37:06am

re: #78 Barefoot Grin

From that thread, I present an example of Cognitivus Dissonancicus in the wild:

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lawhawk  May 5, 2020 • 11:40:04am

re: #91 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hell even the Master Of Disaster, Irwin Allen, never went there!

He did.

The Swarm!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 5, 2020 • 11:41:25am

re: #38 NO SMOCKING GUN!

And assault chickens.

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Super Chicken - 13-The Zipper

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 11:41:46am

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, many out there don’t have the choice. My sister and I were discussing how fortunate we are that we can weather this out because we are retired, don’t have luxurious lifestyles, and have sufficient financial resources to handle this crisis. Of course, that premise will not hold if we descend into a Mad Max world, but it looks like we are going with the Senator Ron Johnson policy that our country can lose 3% of our population, easy peasy.

i understand
i know there’s a certain privilege and luck of the draw in my feelings
(i have always worked from home ie)

people have to assess the risks and decide what matters and what doesnt

there are an awful lot of things that ‘before’ i could have taken or left behind
now it’s no contest until i see more or less foolproof solutions
air travel
hotels
eat in restaurants

and yes, my decisions could affect someone else’s livelihood

these days, there’s precious little im willing to go out and risk my wife’s health for

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:42:03am

re: #99 lawhawk

He did.

The Swarm!

Tired: killer bees
Wired: murder hornets!

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Charles Johnson  May 5, 2020 • 11:42:10am

Twitter’s latest big idea to look like they’re doing something.

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KGxvi  May 5, 2020 • 11:42:46am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

But of course, he’s doing the opposite. He’s encouraging them. At every step, he chooses to promote evil behavior.

He fears his own base.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 11:43:25am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

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no
just duck no.

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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 11:43:55am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Twitter’s latest big idea to look like they’re doing something.

XKCD already proposed a solution for that anyway: Read the tweet out loud to the writer before allowing it to be posted.

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 11:44:15am
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KGxvi  May 5, 2020 • 11:44:40am

re: #106 Belafon

XKCD already proposed a solution for that anyway: Read the tweet out loud to the writer before allowing it to be posted.

Doesn’t work on true believers.

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Cheechako  May 5, 2020 • 11:45:38am

Just heard on NPR that Wendy’s is taking hamburgers off the menu due to a shortage of meat.

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Eventual Carrion  May 5, 2020 • 11:48:06am

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

Following up from downstairs:

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I don’t know, did the Founders have much experience with Coronavirus?

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“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

wel*fare
/ˈwelˌfer/

noun
the health, happiness, and fortunes of a person or group.

So the constitution is to promote our general health.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:48:24am

re: #109 Cheechako

Just heard on NPR that Wendy’s is taking hamburgers off the menu due to a shortage of meat.

Wow, that’s big if true. If Wendy’s can’t get beef, soon none of us will be able to.

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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 11:48:31am

re: #108 KGxvi

Doesn’t work on true believers.

Neither would Twitter’s solution.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  May 5, 2020 • 11:49:10am

re: #111 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Wow, that’s big if true. If Wendy’s can’t get beef, soon none of us will be able to.

The result of using fresh, never frozen beef.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:49:22am

He’s wearing horns and body paint.

(video, 2:20)

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teleskiguy  May 5, 2020 • 11:50:11am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:50:46am

re: #110 Eventual Carrion

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

wel*fare
/ˈwelˌfer/

noun
the health, happiness, and fortunes of a person or group.

So the constitution is to promote our general health.

That’s only a suggestion, like the first half of the Second Amendment.

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Teddy's Person  May 5, 2020 • 11:51:35am

Trump trying for those ratings and comes up short.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 5, 2020 • 11:51:55am

re: #93 Charles Johnson

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 11:53:01am

re: #117 Teddy’s Person

Trump trying for those ratings and comes up short.

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watch him threaten to sue parscale again

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Citizen K  May 5, 2020 • 11:53:41am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹🏡

That’s only a suggestion, like the first half of the Second Amendment.

But considering the second half to be anything but the immutable word of god is the highest form of tyranny.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:54:27am

re: #113 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

The result of using fresh, never frozen beef.

That’s all we buy, but the source is right here. The two butcher shops in this county both process cattle purchased directly from ranchers.

The steak we had this morning was probably still alive last week.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:54:30am

re: #118 The Pie Overlord!

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retired cynic  May 5, 2020 • 11:57:54am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡

I can relate.

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Same with a big red area in a blue state.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:58:39am

Earlier Chuck Todd was both sidesing the issue of federal aid to state governments and I just couldn’t listen to his smarmy mouth anymore.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 11:58:43am

So when do economists start calling it a depression?

Depression (economics) (Wikipedia)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 11:59:41am

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

I want to get off this planet.

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It’s not working as a political ploy or grift, so Trump wants to dump it.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 11:59:52am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡

So when do economists start calling it a depression?

Depression (economics) (Wikipedia)

Friday when the April unemployment rate comes out?

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Omar Comin’ Yo  May 5, 2020 • 12:01:01pm

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 12:01:58pm

re: #55 Hecuba’s daughter

Question re anti-vaxx movement: Are they hostile to all vaccines? So they would have been against smallpox vaccine and they refuse to have their children get the polio vaccine?

Those who have these views have the luxury of living in a society where children don’t routinely die of infectious diseases. If they were in 1950’s America, they would be demanding vaccinations to protect their children.

Probably quite impossible to tell. I bet if engaged they couldn’t tell you either beyond some screed about “Big Pharma”, “unnatural”, or some other nebulous evil that makes vaccines bad and which the internet informed them of.

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Citizen K  May 5, 2020 • 12:02:03pm

re: #124 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Earlier Chuck Todd was both sidesing the issue of federal aid to state governments and I just couldn’t listen to his smarmy mouth anymore.

Trump will let over a million US citizens die on the vine and still the media will act like the Dems should hold the lion share of blame for not deferring enough to the GOP’s great infinite wisdom.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 12:04:23pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve owned chickens before. While for the most part they are timid and non-aggressive (hence why “chicken” is an adjective for a coward), every so often they WILL lash out and while they won’t do you any serious harm, they can certainly make your day miserable if they decide come at you in full pecking mode.

My brother (who owns some) refers to them as “vicious little dinosaurs”. And some are simply more aggressive than others.

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Teddy's Person  May 5, 2020 • 12:04:44pm

re: #128 Omar Comin’ Yo

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 5, 2020 • 12:04:45pm

FLOOF BREAK

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 12:05:39pm

re: #79 calochortus

Because we would never have anything spread into the community from minorities?

There are a lot of reasons I want the people producing my food to have safe working conditions and decent pay, but from a strictly selfish point of view, it’s likely to result in a much more healthful supply of food.

Isn’t there a consistent conservative talking point about immigrants and minority populations bringing in and spreading disease?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 12:07:15pm

re: #91 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hell even the Master Of Disaster, Irwin Allen, never went there!

“Them” came close. It had giant (mutant!) murder ants.

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calochortus  May 5, 2020 • 12:08:09pm

re: #109 Cheechako

Just heard on NPR that Wendy’s is taking hamburgers off the menu due to a shortage of meat.

I bought ground beef this morning and the price was up noticeably. Local, grassfed, etc. etc. Usually $7-$8/lb. This morning $10/lb. How much of that is supply and demand and how much is “because we can” I have no idea. I can’t remember if I saw any “regular” ground beef in the butcher’s case.
Other than that, the store was well stocked and not overly busy.

We’ve opened up a tiny bit here in the Bay Area. Outdoor work like gardening and some construction are allowed. Golf courses can open and parks and open spaces are reopening. I’m not totally sure about the legality, but a number of stores will do curbside delivery if you ask, and I’m feeling that people are relaxing just a little bit. Could be good or bad, depending on what form the relaxing takes, but mostly I think we’re just all getting used to things as they are. Supply chains are re-forming, people know what they’re actually likely to need, and so on.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 5, 2020 • 12:13:04pm
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gwangung  May 5, 2020 • 12:13:05pm

re: #136 calochortus

I bought ground beef this morning and the price was up noticeably. Local, grassfed, etc. etc. Usually $7-$8/lb. This morning $10/lb. How much of that is supply and demand and how much is “because we can” I have no idea. I can’t remember if I saw any “regular” ground beef in the butcher’s case.
Other than that, the store was well stocked and not overly busy.

We’ve opened up a tiny bit here in the Bay Area. Outdoor work like gardening and some construction are allowed. Golf courses can open and parks and open spaces are reopening. I’m not totally sure about the legality, but a number of stores will do curbside delivery if you ask, and I’m feeling that people are relaxing just a little bit. Could be good or bad, depending on what form the relaxing takes, but mostly I think we’re just all getting used to things as they are. Supply chains are re-forming, people know what they’re actually likely to need, and so on.

I think the more knowledgeable folks think we’re going to have to open up….but it has to be controlled, and backed up by testing and contact tracing. The West Coast, and maybe Chicago and NY are set up for it; I really have my doubts about the red states.

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calochortus  May 5, 2020 • 12:13:56pm

re: #134 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Isn’t there a consistent conservative talking point about immigrants and minority populations bringing in and spreading disease?

Yes there is. Lucky for them cognitive dissonance doesn’t seem to be a problem.

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Jay C  May 5, 2020 • 12:16:50pm

re: #128 Omar Comin’ Yo

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 12:16:57pm

The official US death toll went over 70k today. I expect we will hit 100k well before June 1.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 12:17:32pm

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡

So when do economists start calling it a depression?

Depression (economics) (Wikipedia)

D economists or R economists?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 12:18:16pm

re: #139 calochortus

Yes there is. Lucky for them cognitive dissonance doesn’t seem to be a problem.

They don’t care; they will make whatever argument fits the moment, even if it contradicts something they just said.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 12:20:39pm

re: #128 Omar Comin’ Yo

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Jay C  May 5, 2020 • 12:21:25pm

re: #135 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

“Them” came close. It had giant (mutant!) murder ants.

Giant atomic mutant murder ants, no less….

And James Arness.
(And a small role that supposedly brought Fess Parker to Disney’ attention.
Oh, and an uncredited cameo by a ( very ) young Leonard Nimoy.)

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wrenchwench  May 5, 2020 • 12:21:56pm

re: #141 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The official US death toll went over 70k today. I expect we will hit 100k well before June 1.

I was very happy to be wrong about having predicted that for May 1. (I think I did it a month in advance.) I hope you are also wrong, but your expectation has a better chance.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 12:22:32pm

just another ache to deal with

from all the shoveling of sand, rocks, dirt, etc
lifting and shifting of rock and slate
pulling and tugging of liners rafters and tarps

i have developed an exquisite case of tennis elbow.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 12:23:00pm

re: #138 gwangung

I think the more knowledgeable folks think we’re going to have to open up….but it has to be controlled, and backed up by testing and contact tracing. The West Coast, and maybe Chicago and NY are set up for it; I really have my doubts about the red states.

We’re set up for contact tracing in Nebraska, and so far it’s been aggressive, but it’s only a matter of time before Gov. Ricketts bows to the leaders of his religious faith and ends that.

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wrenchwench  May 5, 2020 • 12:27:00pm

re: #147 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

just another ache to deal with

from all the shoveling of sand, rocks, dirt, etc
lifting and shifting of rock and slate
pulling and tugging of liners rafters and tarps

i have developed an exquisite case of tennis elbow.

On one side or both? Does bilateral tennis elbow exist?

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teleskiguy  May 5, 2020 • 12:31:00pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 12:31:43pm

Chester County, PA COVID-19 stats for yesterday:
Confirmed: 1647 (+42)
Total Tests: 7649 (+147) <— about 1.5% of the county population
Deaths: 148 (+30) <— largest single-day change so far, and 12 more than the previous single-day change announced.

One township with over 1% of the population with confirmed cases. (1.01%)
Townships right around me are all in the 0.60-0.80% range and about 30% of the total deaths.

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teleskiguy  May 5, 2020 • 12:35:32pm
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Dr. Matt  May 5, 2020 • 12:36:34pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 5, 2020 • 12:40:29pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 12:42:02pm

re: #152 teleskiguy

Conservatives will never give up their faith. When a fact runs up against their religion, they must deny the fact to protect their faith. Thus you get morans like Mark Dice:

Twitter is a private company, Mr. Dice. Why do you hate capitalism?

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Dread Pirate  May 5, 2020 • 12:43:08pm
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Citizen K  May 5, 2020 • 12:44:04pm

Aaaaaaand here we go…

Yep, Trump is willing to let millions die on the vine because he honestly believes he should only be President of “Real America’. And the rest of us can just fucking die and rot because we’re the America that shouldn’t exist.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 12:46:16pm

re: #157 Citizen K

Aaaaaaand here we go…

Yep, Trump is willing to let millions die on the vine because he honestly believes he should only be President of “Real America’. And the rest of us can just fucking die and rot because we’re the America that shouldn’t exist.

And once again conservatives are trying to launch a genocide.

If we take back the government in November, there must be an accounting. Genocidaires must be taken to trial.

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lawhawk  May 5, 2020 • 12:46:53pm

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡

So when do economists start calling it a depression?

Depression (economics) (Wikipedia)

I prefer Trump Collapse. It wasn’t a depression. It was a self-inflicted own goal with disastrous consequences for all Americans.

Had Trump merely followed the playbook, we could have contained covid19 with far less disruption than the massive shutdowns and huge death toll. Instead he ignored the playbook, ignored the experts, and ignored the need for aggressive testing. That was the trifecta of dumbfuckery. Now we’re going to be paying for the consequences of Trump putting his reelection squarely on need to keep covid19 counts low.

The whole fucking point was to keep the death toll low. You do that with aggressive testing, and even states like NY still aren’t testing enough. The stay-at-home orders are just buying time for the health care system to avoid a total collapse.

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gocart mozart  May 5, 2020 • 12:47:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 12:48:41pm
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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 12:49:13pm

re: #157 Citizen K

I can’t see tweets 1 and 3 at work, but does he think Social Security and Medicare are only popular in blue states?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 12:49:25pm

re: #149 wrenchwench

On one side or both? Does bilateral tennis elbow exist?

left / dominant arm

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The Pie Overlord!  May 5, 2020 • 12:49:31pm

RYE BREAD THREAD

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 12:50:08pm

re: #153 Dr. Matt

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no mystery about it

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 12:51:30pm
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wrenchwench  May 5, 2020 • 12:52:58pm

re: #163 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

left / dominant arm

It seems so incorrect to encourage you to switch sides. Definitely give it a rest, but not to the point of immobility.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 12:53:09pm

re: #159 lawhawk

I prefer Trump Collapse. It wasn’t a depression. It was a self-inflicted own goal with disastrous consequences for all Americans.

Had Trump merely followed the playbook, we could have contained covid19 with far less disruption than the massive shutdowns and huge death toll. Instead he ignored the playbook, ignored the experts, and ignored the need for aggressive testing. That was the trifecta of dumbfuckery. Now we’re going to be paying for the consequences of Trump putting his reelection squarely on need to keep covid19 counts low.

The whole fucking point was to keep the death toll low. You do that with aggressive testing, and even states like NY still aren’t testing enough. The stay-at-home orders are just buying time for the health care system to avoid a total collapse.

republican covid economic collapse

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retired cynic  May 5, 2020 • 12:53:21pm

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹🏡

He’s wearing horns and body paint.

(video, 2:20)

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NO, I’m not listening to that garbage. Don’t want it in my brain cells.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 12:53:29pm

jeebus

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Hecuba's daughter  May 5, 2020 • 12:53:30pm

re: #146 wrenchwench

I was very happy to be wrong about having predicted that for May 1. (I think I did it a month in advance.) I hope you are also wrong, but your expectation has a better chance.

Assuming we get legitimate counts, which is highly unlike from red states, about 1,100 deaths daily between now and the end of the month will get us to 100,000 deaths total. But I would be suspicious of low numbers from Florida, Texas, Georgia, etc.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 12:55:34pm
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Dread Pirate  May 5, 2020 • 12:55:35pm
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KGxvi  May 5, 2020 • 12:56:14pm

re: #167 wrenchwench

It seems so incorrect to encourage you to switch sides. Definitely give it a rest, but not to the point of immobility.

Rest and ice, maybe tylenol or advil or some such. I’ve dealt with inflammation in both shoulders on and off since high school, those tend to be the things that work best.

Definitely better than my approach in my youth (which was basically “fuck it, go harder, if it hurts, that means it’s working”)

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 12:56:34pm

re: #167 wrenchwench

It seems so incorrect to encourage you to switch sides. Definitely give it a rest, but not to the point of immobility.

indeed
it’s self diagnosed, but i think im right
it’s not worth a doctors visit even though it can be quite acute at times

i have a brace on it, but no arm sling
i am favoring the right side
and i’m doing some stretching every hour
it’s gonna be slow healing

fortunately it doesn’t affect the running
(or too much of the ponding, yet)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 5, 2020 • 12:56:40pm

LOL!

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Citizen K  May 5, 2020 • 12:56:44pm

re: #162 Belafon

I can’t see tweets 1 and 3 at work, but does he think Social Security and Medicare are only popular in blue states?

Here’s the text of those tweets:

1) You can see this coming into focus. The WH is betting that more rural redder states won’t ever get hit like the northeast. Shutdown the taskforce and deny ownership of the epidemic. Demand ransom of federal dollars and ICE compliance as the price of aid to devastated states

3) 3/ That’s the logical conclusion of the GOP running the country with a minority of voters disproportionally in rural states who are able to control the country because of the electoral college and geography. Run the country while being funded by blue state taxes.

In other words, Trump wants Blue America to pay for everything, get none of the benefits, and Red America to decide everything because fuck you and die, that’s why.

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gocart mozart  May 5, 2020 • 12:57:19pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 12:57:30pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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a photo is more important than social distancing
or masks
or…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 12:58:03pm
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KGxvi  May 5, 2020 • 12:58:42pm

re: #179 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

instilling character, integrity, and knowledge in the hearts and minds

It’s a shame nobody ever got around to doing that for Donald.

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lawhawk  May 5, 2020 • 12:59:09pm

re: #179 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

He reused the 2019 photo.

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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 12:59:10pm

re: #177 Citizen K

Thanks. The first tweet is where the Admin’s assumptions fail. It’s going to hit them hard, in part because they refuse to listen to blue staters, or those of us in red states warning the rest.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 1:01:05pm

re: #182 lawhawk

He reused the 2019 photo.

ok i stand corrected

still, you can see why i would go there..

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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 1:03:42pm
In an hourlong televised event airing May 16, Obama will congratulate graduating high school seniors and “reflect” on the COVID-19 pandemic. The special, titled Graduate Together: America Honors the High School Class of 2020, will air on ABC, CBS, FOX, and NBC at 8 p.m. EST. It will be streamed on multiple platforms, too.

Notable celebrities will also join in, including Lakers’ forward LeBron James, Malala Yousafzai, The Jonas Brothers, Yara Shahidi, Bad Bunny, Lena Waithe, Pharrell Williams, Megan Rapinoe, H.E.R., and Ben Platt. The event will be hosted by the LeBron James Family Foundation, as well as the XQ Institute and Entertainment Industry Foundation.

Note that it’s airing on Fox.

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gocart mozart  May 5, 2020 • 1:04:27pm
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Jay C  May 5, 2020 • 1:04:34pm

re: #184 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

ok i stand corrected

still, you can see why i would go there..

Though from the formulaic language in that statement, it’s probably likely that Trump had little/ nothing to do with it: it sounds like the sort of boilerplate testimonial Presidential staffers have been cranking out for various national “ Days” since forever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 1:05:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 1:06:53pm
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Dread Pirate  May 5, 2020 • 1:07:28pm
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wrenchwench  May 5, 2020 • 1:08:02pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

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When I saw that in the Master Spy, I thought it said Green Footballs.

This used to be a bike blog.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 5, 2020 • 1:08:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 1:11:46pm
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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 1:12:55pm
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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 1:13:03pm
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jeffreyw  May 5, 2020 • 1:13:32pm

re: #164 The Pie Overlord!

RYE BREAD THREAD

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Will corned beef work for ya?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 1:13:38pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 5, 2020 • 1:17:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 1:19:18pm
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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 1:20:02pm
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gocart mozart  May 5, 2020 • 1:23:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 1:23:51pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 1:25:28pm

re: #200 Belafon

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So they’re settling for 100,000 dead as the final goal post position?
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 1:27:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 1:28:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 1:29:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 1:29:53pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  May 5, 2020 • 1:39:53pm

reuters.com

A fleet of six-wheeled robots that deliver retail purchases is becoming increasingly popular in the British town of Milton Keynes during the coronavirus lockdown. The robots, manufactured by the Starship company, are making free deliveries to National Health Service (NHS) staff as public demand for their services grows. The robots feature what appears to be an antenna topped with a red flag, to make it easier to spot them as they perform their rounds. Starship’s Henry Harris-Burland said many NHS personnel in the town use the robots because they have no time to shop for themselves; over the past three weeks, Starship’s robot fleet has completed 100,000 autonomous deliveries. Harris-Burland said, “We’re doing everything we can as quickly as possible to expand to offer this service to more people, especially at this really important time.”

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Sherlock Hound  May 5, 2020 • 1:40:49pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That looks like Grenfell Towers! Yikes!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 5, 2020 • 1:44:29pm

re: #185 Belafon

Note that it’s airing on Fox.

Fox broadcast TV channels are run separately than Fox News.

And since the purpose of Murdoch’s empire is to make Murdoch even richer, why should Murdoch care about what is on his network?

The only reason Fox News exists is to enrich Murdoch. All the right wing marks are just that - marks.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 1:45:45pm

re: #203 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So they’re settling for 100,000 dead as the final goal post position?
/////

until…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 5, 2020 • 1:48:14pm

re: #209 Sherlock Hound

That looks like Grenfell Towers! Yikes!

I was thinking about that New Years Eve hotel fire from 2015/16 in Dubai

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Teddy's Person  May 5, 2020 • 1:50:23pm

Looks like Kellyanne’s spending time under the bus today.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 5, 2020 • 1:51:20pm

re: #213 Teddy’s Person

Looks like Kellyanne’s spending time under the bus today.

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She’ll blow him and all will be forgiven.

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Teddy's Person  May 5, 2020 • 1:53:04pm

re: #214 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She’ll blow him and all will be forgiven.

Thanks for loading me up with that image. 😳

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A Three Hour Tour  May 5, 2020 • 1:55:16pm

re: #210 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Fox broadcast TV channels are run separately than Fox News.

And since the purpose of Murdoch’s empire is to make Murdoch even richer, why should Murdoch care about what is on his network?

The only reason Fox News exists is to enrich Murdoch. All the right wing marks are just that - marks.

Is Fox (the broadcast network, not FOX News and *its* subsidiary networks) still part of Murdoch’s Empire?

I thought he sold off Fox Broadcasting when he sold 20th Century Fox to Disney, but kept Fox News. Of course, I could be wrong.

Okay, I’m wrong. They kept Fox Network, too.

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 2:03:50pm

New tombstone euphemism.

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 2:04:12pm
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Charles Johnson  May 5, 2020 • 2:07:07pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2020 • 2:08:06pm

Just want to point that he’s Quid Pro Quoing….AGAIN!!

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Teddy's Person  May 5, 2020 • 2:09:13pm

Sucks that mee maw died but my bank account has never been healthier.

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Charles Johnson  May 5, 2020 • 2:10:38pm
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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 2:11:38pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 5, 2020 • 2:11:44pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 5, 2020 • 2:16:34pm

re: #223 jaunte

IHME model shows that on 16 May the expected US deaths reported that day to be 1496.

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 2:16:54pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 5, 2020 • 2:18:05pm

re: #214 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Ewwwwwwwww ewwwwwwwwwww ewwwwwwwwwwwww
Blech

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 5, 2020 • 2:19:02pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

The bad things I want to happen to this man.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 5, 2020 • 2:19:41pm

re: #227 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Ewwwwwwwww ewwwwwwwwwww ewwwwwwwwwwwww
Blech

Sorry. 😳

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jaunte  May 5, 2020 • 2:20:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 2:20:53pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 5, 2020 • 2:20:53pm

re: #216 A Three Hour Tour

Murdoch retained the broadcasting empire.

He sold off the movie production and movie rights.

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2020 • 2:21:06pm

re: #228 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The bad things I want to happen to this man.

For starters, I think Trump should have a close encounter with the giant asian hornets that have arrived in the US.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 5, 2020 • 2:21:17pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s a 98.4% infected rate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 2:21:24pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 2:21:34pm

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

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Just want to point that he’s Quid Pro Quoing….AGAIN!!

adam schiff’s speech was prescient

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 5, 2020 • 2:22:03pm

re: #233 EPR-radar

For starters, I think Trump should have a close encounter with the giant asian hornets that have arrived in the US.

Yeah that can be an appetizer.

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Citizen K  May 5, 2020 • 2:22:18pm

re: #233 EPR-radar

For starters, I think Trump should have a close encounter with the giant asian hornets that have arrived in the US.

Why would you want to subject those poor hornets to that, they’re already lost in an unfamiliar country. ///

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 5, 2020 • 2:24:02pm

re: #236 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

adam schiff’s speech was prescient

We are reminded daily of why impeachment was necessary against this President and that the Republicans exempting Romney did not treat it with any sort of validity. The reasons he was impeached remain valid today in May as they did in January. And I’m definitely want him to face an avalanche of federal and state criminal and civil charges after he leaves office.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 2:25:07pm

JFC

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2020 • 2:28:43pm

The blatant Republican sociopathy regarding covid19 from Trump and his thugs has a long history in the GOP.

E.g., The Reagan administration response to HIV/AIDS when news of that first broke was mostly “this is killing drug users and gay people, what’s the problem with that?”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 5, 2020 • 2:28:47pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 5, 2020 • 2:30:17pm

re: #241 EPR-radar

The blatant Republican sociopathy regarding covid19 from Trump and his thugs has a long history in the GOP.

E.g., The Reagan administration response to HIV/AIDS when news of that first broke was mostly “this is killing drug users and gay people, what’s the problem with that?”

The lawsuit pending before the Wisconsin Supreme Court seeking to neuter the state’s Secretary of Health and nullify the stay-at-home order just makes me sad. I don’t understand it.

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KGxvi  May 5, 2020 • 2:30:24pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, explain to me again why we should believe in such things as “good guys with guns”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 2:32:27pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 2:32:37pm

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200503 edition —————————->
“But mom. The grass is hot lava!”

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Citizen K  May 5, 2020 • 2:34:45pm

re: #243 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The lawsuit pending before the Wisconsin Supreme Court seeking to neuter the state’s Secretary of Health and nullify the stay-at-home order just makes me sad. I don’t understand it.

“Fuck the Libz” and ‘Work To Death For Us”. That’s all you really need to understand. That’s the distillation of the entire impetus behind it. And they’ll win because the GOP basically owns Wisconsin, and barring an independent redistricting effort in a couple of years, likely still will because fuck democracy, we own you, that’s why.

Don’t worry, they’ll find their respect for the governorship again soon as a Republican becomes governor again…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 2:35:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 2:36:16pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2020 • 2:37:23pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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You ever notice white dudes NEVER get mistaken for “burglars”?

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Sherlock Hound  May 5, 2020 • 2:38:53pm

re: #221 Teddy’s Person

Sucks that mee maw died but my bank account has never been healthier.

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“Don’t worry, you and her other relatives can haggle over who gets her flatscreen TV!”
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 2:39:22pm

re: #250 Eclectic Cyborg

You ever notice white dudes NEVER get mistaken for “burglars”?

what jumped out at me was everyone who had to recuse themselves

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 5, 2020 • 2:40:24pm

re: #247 Citizen K

“Fuck the Libz” and ‘Work To Death For Us”. That’s all you really need to understand. That’s the distillation of the entire impetus behind it. And they’ll win because the GOP basically owns Wisconsin, and barring an independent redistricting effort in a couple of years, likely still will because fuck democracy, we own you, that’s why.

Don’t worry, they’ll find their respect for the governorship again soon as a Republican becomes governor again…

I guess we’re going to be closing that border after all.

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2020 • 2:40:37pm

re: #243 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The lawsuit pending before the Wisconsin Supreme Court seeking to neuter the state’s Secretary of Health and nullify the stay-at-home order just makes me sad. I don’t understand it.

These are difficult times. The pandemic is bad enough on its own, but the stress it is causing on US society is making many unpleasant truths painfully clear:

1) Republicans are basically evil. Their leaders are in it for money and power, and their followers are in it to have their irrational resentments (bigotry etc.) validated.

2) US style capitalism is also basically evil — there is no way to justify its foundational axiom ‘work or die’ in the presence of a ruling class that ‘earns’ far more than what their work could possibly be worth in a free market, especially in view of increased automation and a global labor market.

3) The US political media is almost completely worthless, because instead of dealing with real issues (as above), it mainly focuses on stupid horse races and pushing the great both-siderist lie. If all the both-siderists in the US media were fired, that would take out all of the news executives and 90% of the anchors, reporters and columnists.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 5, 2020 • 2:43:01pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

what jumped out at me was everyone who had to recuse themselves

Well it is Georgia. Racism runs deep in the South.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 2:43:55pm

LA LAW 1991 -
Jonathan rollins gets arrested while jogging at night (turns out it was part setup)
and i cut some lines out

Sergeant Cobb: Let’s see some ID.
Jonathan Rollins: I don’t have my wallet with me. I don’t usually carry it with me when I run.
Officer Janssen: [reaching for his gun] Would you please step towards the car, slowly?
Jonathan Rollins: Wait a minute. I’m an attorney. I live 2 miles from here.
Sergeant Cobb: Yeah, sure. Move.
Jonathan Rollins: Hey! What’s your reasonable suspicion?
Sergeant Cobb: You don’t belong here. You don’t fit the profile of this neighborhood. That’s my suspicion. We asked you to step toward the car.

Jonathan Rollins: Get your hands off me.

Sergeant Cobb: Shut your mouth!

Officer Janssen: You happy now, smart guy? You happy now?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 5, 2020 • 2:44:21pm

re: #255 Eclectic Cyborg

Well it is Georgia. Racism runs deep in the South.

Georgia what? I was talking about Minnesota’s border with Wisconsin. If the cheeseheads are going full wingnut, I’m pretty sure Governor Walz has no problem flipping the bird to his counterpart across the St. Croix.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 2:44:30pm

re: #214 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She’ll blow him and all will be forgiven.

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Citizen K  May 5, 2020 • 2:45:18pm

re: #254 EPR-radar

2) US style capitalism is also basically evil — there is no way to justify its foundational axiom ‘work or die’ in the presence of a ruling class that ‘earns’ far more than what their work could possibly be worth in a free market, especially in view of increased automation and a global labor market.

Lets be absolutely fair here.

At this point, they’ve progressed to ‘Work And Die’.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 2:45:27pm

re: #254 EPR-radar

These are difficult times. The pandemic is bad enough on its own, but the stress it is causing on US society is making many unpleasant truths painfully clear:

1) Republicans are basically evil. Their leaders are in it for money and power, and their followers are in it to have their irrational resentments (bigotry etc.) validated.

2) US style capitalism is also basically evil — there is no way to justify its foundational axiom ‘work or die’ in the presence of a ruling class that ‘earns’ far more than what their work could possibly be worth in a free market, especially in view of increased automation and a global labor market.

3) The US political media is almost completely worthless, because instead of dealing with real issues (as above), it mainly focuses on stupid horse races and pushing the great both-siderist lie. If all the both-siderists in the US media were fired, that would take out all of the news executives and 90% of the anchors, reporters and columnists.

now i am depressed
im breaking out the bourbon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 2:48:15pm

re: #223 jaunte

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 2:48:18pm

The Republican governors of Arkansas, Iowa, Missouri and Nebraska and Wyoming write in the Washington Post:

The core reasons our states are open for business are the tenacity, grit and heart of our residents. Their clear-eyed, common-sense approach helped keep our states on track and have set us up to come out of this pandemic stronger than ever. We look forward to leading the way.

Rachel Maddow: “It’s not often that you can recognize — in real time — the kind of mistake that will haunt a politician every remaining day of their blessed lives, but it helps when five of them co-sign it together, under a headline like this.”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 2:50:02pm

rando commenter:

The United States now has about one-third of the coronavirus cases IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. And that’s without testing, so the number of cases is actually higher in this country than the figures indicate. The deaths are similarly almost one-third of the world-wide deaths. There is no conceivable way to spin this. We are doing WORSE than any other country on earth. And now, Trump wants to make this even worse, with many, many more people dying….

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gocart mozart  May 5, 2020 • 2:52:50pm

Fun thread about actors and the NOPD

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 5, 2020 • 2:53:51pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 5, 2020 • 2:55:04pm

I did not expect that.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 5, 2020 • 2:57:10pm

re: #260 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

now i am depressed
im breaking out the bourbon

Why not? I’ve broken out the vodka twice today. Might indulge again this evening.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 2:57:14pm

Alaska, Hawaii, Montana and Wyoming are among the least-populated states in the U.S., and not surprisingly have the lowest numbers of residents who have tested positive for the new coronavirus. But despite their small size, they scored big this spring when Congress pumped out direct federal aid to the states.

An Associated Press analysis shows those four, along with other small states, took in an out-sized proportion of the $150 billion in federal money that was designed to address coronavirus-related expenses, when measured by the number of positive tests for the COVID-19 disease.

Their haul ranged from $2 million per positive test in Hawaii to nearly $3.4 million per test in Alaska. In Wyoming, the smallest state with less than 600 positive cases, the $1.25 billion it received from the congressional package equates to 80 percent of its annual general state budget.

By comparison, New York and New Jersey, by far the hardest-hit states, respectively received about $24,000 and $27,000 per positive coronavirus test. Other states with high numbers of coronavirus cases, including Massachusetts, Michigan and Illinois, received less than $100,000 per positive case.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 5, 2020 • 2:58:04pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 5, 2020 • 2:58:17pm

re: #266 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I did not expect that.

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im guessing neither did she

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EPR-radar  May 5, 2020 • 2:59:02pm

re: #269 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Commander in Chief Bone Spurs should really shut the fuck up with this ‘warriors’ bullcrap.

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Charles Johnson  May 5, 2020 • 2:59:23pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 5, 2020 • 2:59:25pm

re: #263 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

rando commenter:

BUT CHINA!
/////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 3:00:27pm

re: #255 Eclectic Cyborg

Well it is Georgia. Racism runs deep in the South.

I was more thinking about how in the South everyone is related in one way or another

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 5, 2020 • 3:01:50pm

Sorry this goddamn phone won’t let me respond or correct. The keyboard covers the bottom half of the box, below the quote. If you close it the cursor disappears and you can’t position the response. Same thing on corrections, either no keyboard or no cursor. Of course you cant scroll the response box.

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Barefoot Grin  May 5, 2020 • 3:03:28pm

I’m against the death penalty, but my covid dreams aren’t. Bannon, Miller, Kushner, the Trumps, against the wall….

I’m sorry. It’s been a bad day. I’d be fine with them rotting in jail.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 3:03:29pm

re: #262 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

The Republican governors of Arkansas, Iowa, Missouri and Nebraska and Wyoming write in the Washington Post:

Rachel Maddow: “It’s not often that you can recognize — in real time — the kind of mistake that will haunt a politician every remaining day of their blessed lives, but it helps when five of them co-sign it together, under a headline like this.”

Wyoming’s numbers from yesterday:

Cases: 596 (+10)
Hospitalised: 60 (no change)
Deaths: 7 (no change)

Iowa’s numbers from yesterday:

Cases: 10,111
Hospitalised: (not reported)
Deaths: 207 (+29)

“Some of you may die, but that’s a chance I’m wiling to take.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 3:06:44pm

re: #262 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

The core reasons our states are open for business are the tenacity, grit and heart of our residents. Their clear-eyed, common-sense approach helped keep our states on track and have set us up to come out of this pandemic stronger than ever. We look forward to leading the way.

When it gets out here in our rural areas, we’re fuqued.

I’m reminded our county hospital has exactly one ICU bed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 3:08:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 3:09:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 3:10:42pm

insanity

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 5, 2020 • 3:10:44pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Let me guess: This fuckboy is one of the covidiots who is holding our infrastructure bill hostage until Governor Walz ends the stay-at-home order.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 5, 2020 • 3:11:03pm

re: #269 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Giphy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 3:11:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 5, 2020 • 3:11:30pm

I was going to say in reference to the Georgia jogger shooting, that nothing has changed since the heyday of lynching. The yokels are literal savages, among the cruelest and most bloodthirsty in history, especially relative to the more general standards of their time. For most of 100 years, the law has restrained their barbarism to one degree or another. Now, though, with their votes so important to the decadent Republican party’s winning formula, the restraint is falling away and their true nature is coming back out into the open. This is going to get very ugly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 5, 2020 • 3:11:41pm

but of course

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 5, 2020 • 3:13:08pm
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Teddy's Person  May 5, 2020 • 3:13:48pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

but of course

He did it at the beginning too.

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Sherlock Hound  May 5, 2020 • 3:13:54pm

re: #276 Barefoot Grin

I’m against the death penalty, but my covid dreams aren’t. Bannon, Miller, Kushner, the Trumps, against the wall….

I’m sorry. It’s been a bad day. I’d be fine with them rotting in jail.

Bannon can be pushed out a high window, defenestrated as the Russians do. I wonder if he’ll bounce? Or splat?

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William Lewis  May 5, 2020 • 3:28:26pm

Well, the Government Money came today. The Pawn shop was quite happy.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 5, 2020 • 3:53:21pm

re: #128 Omar Comin’ Yo

NoAHn9w4sxR/wS4HkCLe8LShISPy4LLf6EakHvoonXJXrx1XfUtQ/m+EcTA1NU1YlZ8NZlBqJGuVw3AWYc61pndGKSPf7fIiC67qsQQNgzyRXUrBlRRA3yhpTYlrE8N4ZnORc1+40fAuwlFxYd/9UCyBFRXC48XrAERoMitBHwGUgSh8SxYOpcWH7Hs7w76O

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  May 6, 2020 • 5:54:14am

re: #256 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

LA LAW 1991 -
Jonathan rollins gets arrested while jogging at night (turns out it was part setup)
and i cut some lines out

Sergeant Cobb: Let’s see some ID.
Jonathan Rollins: I don’t have my wallet with me. I don’t usually carry it with me when I run.
Officer Janssen: [reaching for his gun] Would you please step towards the car, slowly?
Jonathan Rollins: Wait a minute. I’m an attorney. I live 2 miles from here.
Sergeant Cobb: Yeah, sure. Move.
Jonathan Rollins: Hey! What’s your reasonable suspicion?
Sergeant Cobb: You don’t belong here. You don’t fit the profile of this neighborhood. That’s my suspicion. We asked you to step toward the car.

Jonathan Rollins: Get your hands off me.

Sergeant Cobb: Shut your mouth!

Officer Janssen: You happy now, smart guy? You happy now?

I remember that episode. Nothing has changed.


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