And Now, the Living Room Power Set 2020 From KNOWER [VIDEO]

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DUO LIVING ROOM POWER SET
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recorded for secret sky festival

1. Overtime - 00:08
2. Time Traveler - 02:46
3. Pizza - 06:22
4. Hanging On - 7:57
5. Around - 11:50
6. Let Go - 14:25
7. The Government Knows - 16:38
8. What’s In Your Heart - 19:09

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1
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 8:11:13pm

I stuck it at the tail end of the last thread, so I’ll put it here.

I found this to be a good article in The Paris Review (a magazine of fiction, poetry, and essays).

Fuck the Bread. The Bread Is Over. (Sarah Orah Mark, who writes a column on fairy tales and motherhood)

She applied for a university job in February. The interview process took three days, being introduced to people she’d never meet again and facilities she’d never use, because right at that time the epidemic swept across the country, and the job offer was withdrawn.

What does it mean to be worth something? Or worth enough? Or worthless? What does it mean to earn a living? What does it mean to be hired? What does it mean to be let go?

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Chrysicat  May 12, 2020 • 8:12:06pm

CL’d and should have known I would be:

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Trump’s “transition into greatness” tweet has been turned into a Website (by liberals).

Caution for LOL

transitionintogreatness.com

I’m honestly shocked that there aren’t 20 different transperson memes on that website rather than just sobering statistics.

Then again, maybe you have to be trans to immediately think that way when you hear “transition into” anything.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 8:15:13pm

re: #2 Chrysicat

CL’d and should have known I would be:

I’m honestly shocked that there aren’t 20 different transperson memes on that website rather than just sobering statistics.

Then again, maybe you have to be trans to immediately think that way when you hear “transition into” anything.

You couldn’t have been, because I responded to you.

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I wonder if they take suggestions. The contact for the page is right at the top, so if you have some memes you could send them along to the owner.

rel123@verizon.net

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 12, 2020 • 8:16:56pm

Butting in line to get some sun:

Practice Yoga with Ring-Tailed Lemurs

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Sherlock Hound  May 12, 2020 • 8:19:24pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
See also this tweet. Others had the same thoughts. A lot of “normal” people are learning what it is like for a disabled person every day.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 8:20:53pm

re: #5 Sherlock Hound

See also this tweet. Others had the same thoughts. A lot of “normal” people are learning what it is like for a disabled person every day.

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 8:21:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 8:27:59pm

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

Near the bottom of the WP article:

Shortly after this story was published, Tyson and the Elkhorn Logan Valley agency announced the results of testing at the company’s plant in Madison. Of the employees and contractors who work at there, 212 tested positive for the coronavirus. The company said it would also release the results of testing at its other plants to employees, government officials and other stakeholders.

There were also counts issued initially for the Smithfield plant in Crete and the JBS plant in Grand Island.

washingtonpost.com

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Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2020 • 8:29:48pm

One point about testing that is often overlooked: if a nation does what’s right at the beginning before the disease becomes widespread (complete quarantine, contact trace, test and quarantine all contacts), then the nation does not have to test as large a percentage of the population because exposure will be limited. The most critical point is that everyone entering the country must be quarantined for two weeks and rigorously tested before granted permission to leave quarantine.

In the US, of course, testing must be extensive because the disease has taken a foothold here and will continue to spread and pose a danger until there is a vaccine and/or an effective treatment.

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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 8:33:00pm

Cyberpunk has to start somewhere:

re: #137 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 8:35:27pm

Joe Bacon gets a shout out on Utah Outcasts for forwarding information to them about Pastor Jim Bakker (11:00)

(caution for coarse language)

Jim Bakker Suffers Stroke Over Silver Solution Lawsuit

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Dread Pirate  May 12, 2020 • 8:37:36pm
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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 8:41:53pm

“…the disclosure, which a senior U.S. government official confirmed was made in error, seems likely to revive questions about potential Saudi links to the 9/11 plot.

It also shines a light on the extraordinary efforts by top Trump administration officials in recent months to prevent internal documents about the issue from ever becoming public”
…..
“Ironically, the declaration identifying the Saudi official in question was intended to support recent filings by Attorney General William Barr and acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell barring the public release of the Saudi official’s name and all related documents, concluding they are “state secrets” that, if disclosed, could cause “significant harm to the national security.”

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Dread Pirate  May 12, 2020 • 8:46:33pm
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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 8:46:51pm

It’s a scourge. My little high school (my graduating class in 2000 was 95 kids) has seen too many of these.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 8:47:37pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

It’s a scourge. My little high school (my graduating class in 2000 was 95 kids) has seen too many of these.

I am sorry for your loss.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 12, 2020 • 8:58:48pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

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It’s a scourge. My little high school (my graduating class in 2000 was 95 kids) has seen too many of these.

I know this is not easy. It never is. Take care of yourself. I wish I had more to say.

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 9:00:47pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

((Teleskiguy))

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 9:14:04pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

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It’s a scourge. My little high school (my graduating class in 2000 was 95 kids) has seen too many of these.

Fella, so sorry. My 1973 graduating class of 365 has now dwindled down to 51…

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makeitstop  May 12, 2020 • 9:18:28pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 12, 2020 • 9:24:19pm

Flower time!

Some do it large…

I say size matters!
You may be taller, but I’m wider!
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 12, 2020 • 9:25:08pm

A touch of violet…

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 12, 2020 • 9:26:30pm

White flowers…

Kissed by the rain

Yes, this flower is white.

With that foliage, I don’t need to be large!
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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 9:38:08pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

My memories of him are flooding into my brain. Dude was good at bringing out my inner redneck. Guns and beers and explosives and big bonfires at his ranch.

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EPR-radar  May 12, 2020 • 10:12:36pm

re: #20 makeitstop

I’m sure the hit rate among anti-vaxxers of the ancient “Beware of deadly dihydrogen monoxide” trick would be way too high (well over 50%).

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mmmirele  May 12, 2020 • 10:15:54pm

The first sumo wrestler (rikishi) has died of COVID-19. Shobushi was a lower division rikishi, but best known for his comic sumo routines. He was 28 years old and had been in intensive care for three weeks.

japantimes.co.jp

Here is one of his comic routines, he’s the shorter guy. I should note that there’s a LOT of tradition breaking in these routines—stuff you’d never do in a real sumo match, like drinking ladle after ladle of the power water, throwing salt on the crowd instead of in the ring, snatching the gyoji’s hat, that sort of thing. It derives its humor in part from its transgressive nature. However, you can just admire the teamwork it takes to put on a 4+ minute comic sumo routine and have the timing down just right. If you don’t watch all of it, just go to 4:43 and watch the 13 seconds of leg lifts (nine of them). Being able to do a high leg lift is part of the daily opening ceremony at a grand basho and people go “Ohhh!” when the yokozuna does it, as they do here. It’s a skill.

初っ切り（しょっきり）もはや名人芸の域！勝武士＆高三郷

Sumo is the traditional national sport of Japan. (I’d argue that baseball is the real national sport.) I think this death is going to shake things up. RIP Shobushi.

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austin_blue  May 12, 2020 • 10:40:55pm

I am pretty pissed about the raisin hate I see on this Board!

I especially love golden sultanas, very different from your normal black raisins, for which I have no love.

Goldens, as a garnish are delightful. They add a bit of sweet, a bit chewy mouthfeel, and a bit of umami to the recipe.

Such as this:

foodwine.com

Note that this is a recipe from my neighborhood 4-star Sushi joint, the best in Texas, our usual Thursday date night. We miss it to the bottom of our souls.

Could you ever make this at home? Probably not. But good dog almighty it is just as good as anything you have ever put in your cake hole.

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austin_blue  May 12, 2020 • 10:44:41pm

She Who Must Be Obeyed is snoring in the front room. Time for us to tottle off to bed.

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 10:55:29pm

My governor is goading Elon. Oh boy.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 12, 2020 • 11:16:16pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

My governor is goading Elon. Oh boy.

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I don’t live in CO, but it looks like your stay-at-home and safer-at-home orders would also keep him from opening his business. Odd that the governor doesn’t mention that….

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goddamnedfrank  May 12, 2020 • 11:17:16pm
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Decatur Deb  May 13, 2020 • 1:28:59am

re: #21 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Flower time!

Some do it large…

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Pistile Dysfunction

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goddamnedfrank  May 13, 2020 • 1:55:02am
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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 2:03:46am

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

Story going around here in Czech Republic is that Russians were planning on bumping off a few Czech politicians they viewed as “anti-Russian” but they got caught by Czech intelligence services.

It’s causing some headaches because the Czech President, Miloš Zeman, is very pro-Russian (and pro-Beijing), the PM is somewhat neutral (but up to his eyeballs in debt to the Bank of China) and Czech intelligence is compiling a report that they’ve said they’re going to make public - much to the annoyance of President Zeman and his allies. And about a quarter of the Czech population is pro-Russian, ostensibly because of pan-Slavism which is still a thing here.

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Decatur Deb  May 13, 2020 • 2:07:33am

Comet SWAN becomes reasonably observable from about now through June. It’s sort of naked eye, good for decent binoculars. There are 4 binocular comets out there in the next month or so,

duluthnewstribune.com

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teleskiguy  May 13, 2020 • 2:18:29am
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teleskiguy  May 13, 2020 • 2:20:41am

I can’t sleep. Last few days have been horrible.

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 2:38:04am

FFS, it seems that the only thing more contagious than SARS-CoV-2 is human stupidity.

A celebrity cook who called the coronavirus a government trick to plant mind control chips into Germans under the guise of vaccinations was hauled away by police from an unlawful demonstration in front of the parliament building. A pop star attacked face mask requirements and demanded evidence that Covid-19 really exists, while a leading Roman Catholic Cardinal in Germany added his name to a letter claiming the pandemic was a pretext to create a global government.

scmp.com

The loonies are coming out of the woodwork - and not just in the US.

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Jack Burton  May 13, 2020 • 3:00:16am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

They always say things like:

Claiming (insert something here) is a pretext to create a global government.

As if that is something that is at its core always a bad thing in any form it would take. I’ve never understood the knee-jerk opposition to that concept, unless it’s combined with terms like authoritarian, totalitarian, fascist, communist, police-state, etc.

I mean… JHC it’s one of the requirements to join the United Federation of Planets… //

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2020 • 3:11:15am

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

That’s a scary read. Huge sigh.

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 3:23:51am

re: #39 Jack Burton

They always say things like:

As if that is something that is at its core always a bad thing in any form it would take. I’ve never understood the knee-jerk opposition to that concept, unless it’s combined with terms like authoritarian, totalitarian, fascist, communist, police-state, etc.

I mean… JHC it’s one of the requirements to join the United Federation of Planets… //

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

One thing this particular pandemic has revealed is just how easily conspiracy theories can be accepted. It seems to a failing of the human mind.

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Targetpractice  May 13, 2020 • 3:41:56am

If you’ve got time to sit around and obsess over global conspiracies, then you’ve got time to do something constructive with your life. Take up a hobby, learn a language, start work on that novel you’ve been thinking about, binge watch all those shows and movies you always wanted to see but didn’t have time to, find a good book to settle down with, or any of a number of activities that will actually engage your brain.

If I wanted long rants about bioweapons, nanoparticles, global conspiracies, and plans to control us through it all, I’d just go play Deus Ex while I played the cut scenes from the Metal Gear Solid franchise in the background.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 3:58:05am

re: #9 Hecuba’s daughter

One point about testing that is often overlooked: if a nation does what’s right at the beginning before the disease becomes widespread (complete quarantine, contact trace, test and quarantine all contacts), then the nation does not have to test as large a percentage of the population because exposure will be limited.

Trump made it clear that he does not want widespread testing and people who support him are making sure that his wishes are implemented…

So yeah, we are fucked and we are gonna be stuck with this disease for a long time with people dying needlessly for an economy that refuses to recover.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 13, 2020 • 4:02:27am

A different kind of eulogy for someone struck down by Covid-19:

This Impossible Game Makes NO Sense

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Decatur Deb  May 13, 2020 • 4:06:15am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump made it clear that he does not want widespread testing and people who support him are making sure that his wishes are implemented…

So yeah, we are fucked and we are gonna be stuck with this disease for a long time with people dying needlessly for an economy that refuses to recover.

Whod’da thought a crooked businessman would make sure the books were well-cooked?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 13, 2020 • 4:09:59am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 4:12:41am

re: #45 Decatur Deb

Whod’da thought a crooked businessman would make sure the books were well-cooked?

You mean a media star who is more concerned with a positive image than with substance?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 13, 2020 • 4:48:27am

re: #2 Chrysicat

CL’d and should have known I would be:

I’m honestly shocked that there aren’t 20 different transperson memes on that website rather than just sobering statistics.

Then again, maybe you have to be trans to immediately think that way when you hear “transition into” anything.

I made a snarky reply tweet to that along those lines and cross posted it here yesterday. BTW did you see that Aimee Stephens (May she rest in peace) passed away yesterday?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 13, 2020 • 4:58:07am

re: #27 austin_blue

I am pretty pissed about the raisin hate I see on this Board!

I especially love golden sultanas, very different from your normal black raisins, for which I have no love.

Goldens, as a garnish are delightful. They add a bit of sweet, a bit chewy mouthfeel, and a bit of umami to the recipe.

Such as this:

foodwine.com

Note that this is a recipe from my neighborhood 4-star Sushi joint, the best in Texas, our usual Thursday date night. We miss it to the bottom of our souls.

Could you ever make this at home? Probably not. But good dog almighty it is just as good as anything you have ever put in your cake hole.

They’re all good raisins, Brant!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 13, 2020 • 5:01:45am

re: #15 teleskiguy

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It’s a scourge. My little high school (my graduating class in 2000 was 95 kids) has seen too many of these.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 5:10:35am

re: #27 austin_blue

I am pretty pissed about the raisin hate I see on this Board!

Many of these people were traumatized as children by being given a cookie which they thought was chocolate chip but turned out to be oatmeal-raisin.

It is hard to recover from such a trauma. I recall similar reactions from people who bit into what they thought were deep-fried onion rings that turned out to be calamari rings.

And the expression on a German’s face when he chugged a glass of root beer thinking it was a variant of German Alt Bier.

These things leave a mark on you…

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 5:17:08am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I brought home root beer one time (it’s not easy to find here in Czech Republic) and my ex, who’d never heard of it, took a swig - and promptly ran to the sink to spit it out. She said, “Jesus, what the hell is that, furniture polish?!”

LOL. She also couldn’t stand peanut butter as I later discovered. She tried a bite of a PBJ I’d made and concluded us Americans are all insane, at least when it comes to cuisine.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 13, 2020 • 5:20:28am

re: #44 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

A different kind of eulogy for someone struck down by Covid-19:

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That was… Awesome.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 13, 2020 • 5:22:11am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I must be a weirdo because I’ll take an oatmeal raisin cookie over a chocolate chip cookie every day of the week (yes, please!)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 13, 2020 • 5:25:25am

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

I brought home root beer one time (it’s not easy to find here in Czech Republic) and my ex, who’d never heard of it, took a swig - and promptly ran to the sink to spit it out. She said, “Jesus, what the hell is that, furniture polish?!”

LOL. She also couldn’t stand peanut butter as I later discovered. She tried a bite of a PBJ I’d made and concluded us Americans are all insane, at least when it comes to cuisine.

I’m firmly in your ex’s camp. Root beer (and Dr. Pepper) are gross, and I have never understood the love of PB&J or Reese’s, for that matter.

The only sweet peanut butter I like is in Thai food with salt, lime and hot spice.

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 5:26:00am

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

I brought home root beer one time (it’s not easy to find here in Czech Republic) and my ex, who’d never heard of it, took a swig - and promptly ran to the sink to spit it out. She said, “Jesus, what the hell is that, furniture polish?!”

LOL. She also couldn’t stand peanut butter as I later discovered. She tried a bite of a PBJ I’d made and concluded us Americans are all insane, at least when it comes to cuisine.

Twice I had foreign exchange students (different years) tell me the most disgusting American food or beverage is root beer. I found that funny, because having grown up with it, I quite like it. I guess it’s our vegemite.

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 5:30:10am

re: #56 Barefoot Grin

Twice I had foreign exchange students (different years) tell me the most disgusting American food or beverage is root beer. I found that funny, because having grown up with it, I quite like it. I guess it’s our vegemite.

I love root beer, and like you, I grew up with it. My dad was a huge root beer aficianado. A&W was his favorite.

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 5:35:48am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

I love root beer, and like you, I grew up with it. My dad was a huge root beer aficianado. A&W was his favorite.

Yes! My dad, too. We often drove across Illinois. There was a A&W drive-in restaurant in a town called Havana (I think it was) where we often stopped just for root beer floats.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 13, 2020 • 5:42:10am
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Dave In Austin  May 13, 2020 • 5:45:31am
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BlueGrl21  May 13, 2020 • 5:49:20am

re: #15 teleskiguy

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It’s a scourge. My little high school (my graduating class in 2000 was 95 kids) has seen too many of these.

I am so sorry, Teleskiguy. I understand what it is when suicide makes its way into a group.

My high school had the nickname, “suicide high” when I was there, so many kids killed themselves. As we’ve gotten older I lose at least one friend a year to it, at least. Not acquaintances, real friends. I stopped counting acquaintances. It somehow got into that group as a solution and never let go, even 30 years later.

Take care of yourself. I get it.

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jeffreyw  May 13, 2020 • 5:53:10am

eggs sailing in a salsa sea

Good morning!

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lizardofid  May 13, 2020 • 5:57:46am

re: #62 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

That’s a right elegant huevos rancheros! Now I’m hungry….

Good morning!

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lawhawk  May 13, 2020 • 5:58:04am

re: #9 Hecuba’s daughter

One point about testing that is often overlooked: if a nation does what’s right at the beginning before the disease becomes widespread (complete quarantine, contact trace, test and quarantine all contacts), then the nation does not have to test as large a percentage of the population because exposure will be limited. The most critical point is that everyone entering the country must be quarantined for two weeks and rigorously tested before granted permission to leave quarantine.

In the US, of course, testing must be extensive because the disease has taken a foothold here and will continue to spread and pose a danger until there is a vaccine and/or an effective treatment.

We need millions of tests and hundreds of thousands of tests daily precisely because Trump slow rolled testing and contact tracing at the outset. Every day of delay requires ever more tests to compensate. 10,000 tests a day in early March would have spared us having to do 300,000 tests today (which we aren’t doing, let alone 500,000 that’s needed) because the GOP still doesn’t get exponential growth.

If you are aggressive in testing, you can control spread and bring the transmissions down to point where it burns itself out. Trump’s guaranteeing that this simmers on and on, and the moment states open up too quickly, it’ll blow right back up.

States shielding the public from data, misrepresenting deaths by undercounting, and all the rest will eventually come out in the form of excess mortality that can be explained in tremendous part to covid19.

But that will be no comfort to the nearly 84,000 dead Americans, the 1.4 million people sickened, and all the tens of millions who’ve seen their jobs vaporized by Trump’s failures to act in the early stages, and ongoing denial of reality even now as to the damage, path forward to responsibly reopen, and how best to restart the economy.

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jeffreyw  May 13, 2020 • 6:01:56am

re: #54 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I must be a weirdo because I’ll take an oatmeal raisin cookie over a chocolate chip cookie every day of the week (yes, please!)

How about a chocolate chip raisin coconut peanut butter oatmeal ice cream sammich?

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plansbandc  May 13, 2020 • 6:03:30am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Ah the icy cold mug of A&W, or maybe a megaphone!

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lizardofid  May 13, 2020 • 6:07:53am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

I love root beer, and like you, I grew up with it. My dad was a huge root beer aficianado. A&W was his favorite.

Cream soda was my jam at A&W!

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ericblair  May 13, 2020 • 6:10:46am

Who knew that the opinion that “olds can just go and die for the economy” doesn’t go over very well with olds. Nothing much new here, except that the wingnut farm The Villages is actively enforcing MAGAtude.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 13, 2020 • 6:12:29am

re: #65 jeffreyw

How about a chocolate chip raisin coconut peanut butter oatmeal ice cream sammich?

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You lost me at peanut butter. 😢 I just can’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 6:19:05am

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

I brought home root beer one time (it’s not easy to find here in Czech Republic) and my ex, who’d never heard of it, took a swig - and promptly ran to the sink to spit it out. She said, “Jesus, what the hell is that, furniture polish?!”

LOL. She also couldn’t stand peanut butter as I later discovered. She tried a bite of a PBJ I’d made and concluded us Americans are all insane, at least when it comes to cuisine.

I just discovered the joys of a tortilla spread with peanut butter, chili sauce and fried onion bits…

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 6:19:34am

re: #66 plansbandc

Ah the icy cold mug of A&W, or maybe a megaphone!

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I miss that. The only root beer I’ve ever found here is Barq’s. On the bright side, I saw Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups last week when I shopping at Kaufland. Until recently, those were very difficult to find here. I let a student of mine know - she’ll be delighted. She loves ‘em….her brother-in-law is American and she got hooked on them when he brought some over.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 13, 2020 • 6:21:37am

re: #68 ericblair

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Who knew that the opinion that “olds can just go and die for the economy” doesn’t go over very well with olds. Nothing much new here, except that the wingnut farm The Villages is actively enforcing MAGAtude.

Does this mean the Villages only allows trump signs or POTUS signs in general?

Ms. Stanley does say she sees fewer “Trump 2020” flags flying lately - the only visible form of political support permitted in the community. Similarly, Cathy Hardy, chair of the Sumter County Democratic Party, says that anecdotally, she’s heard a handful of locals say Mr. Trump’s handling of COVID-19 was “the nail in the coffin.”

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 6:22:53am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

I miss that. The only root beer I’ve ever found here is Barq’s. On the bright side, I saw Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups last week when I shopping at Kaufland. Until recently, those were very difficult to find here. I let a student of mine know - she’ll be delighted. She loves ‘em….her brother-in-law is American and she got hooked on them when he brought some over.

I’m supposed to be in Japan right now with a group of students. There’s a lot that I’ll miss, but the varieties of Kit Kats and Pringles are always a thrill.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 6:24:32am
Hey! You see that drawing right there in the featured image slot? The extremely hilarious one where Jesus is standing behind Trump helping him write his ABC’s like he’s in one of those Jesus With You Always memes?

Well, according to a recent study conducted by Religion In Public, white evangelicals were more likely to think Trump was anointed by God after looking at that meme. Like, they looked at that picture with their faces and instead of giggling uncontrollably (because it’s fucking funny) they were more likely, by eight percentage points, to say that they think Trump was anointed by God than they were if they didn’t look at Trump with huggy Jesus.

How? Did they think it was real? Did they look at it and think it was an accurate depiction of real life events? That Jesus and Trump actually posed for that picture themselves?

It sounds stupid, but is it that much more stupid than thinking the president was anointed by God? I contend that it is not.

(more, with polling from Religion in Public)

Huggy Jesus Meme Makes Evangelicals More Likely To Believe Trump Is Anointed By God (Wonkette)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 6:25:54am

One of the best Thanksgiving turkeys I ever ate was one roasted on the grill smeared with a peanut butter and green chili sauce.

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William Lewis  May 13, 2020 • 6:29:10am

re: #54 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I must be a weirdo because I’ll take an oatmeal raisin cookie over a chocolate chip cookie every day of the week (yes, please!)

YUMM! I agree Oatmeal raisin, nice and chewy, still warm from the oven.

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lawhawk  May 13, 2020 • 6:30:18am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 13, 2020 • 6:31:08am

Weird but effective. Looks kinda cool… Still weird.

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Belafon  May 13, 2020 • 6:32:37am
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Eventual Carrion  May 13, 2020 • 6:32:39am

re: #69 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

You lost me at peanut butter. 😢 I just can’t.

I have always hated peanut nutter. My sisters loved the stuff, I can’t even stand the smell of it. My mother said I was un-american for not liking peanut butter (she was joking of course). That just left more for my sisters, but they hated lima beans and I love them so I always got more of that since they didn’t eat them.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 13, 2020 • 6:34:33am

re: #76 William Lewis

YUMM! I agree Oatmeal raisin, nice and chewy, still warm from the oven.

I’ve been making oatmeal raisin cookies every week lately because why the fuck not?

What I don’t get is how the same recipe comes out differently every week. Sometimes they spread into one mass of deliciousness and other times they become beautifully formed cookies that bake up perfectly and holds their shape.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 6:35:20am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The article notes that while the effect is most pronounced amongst right-wing white Evangelicals, it can be measured across all branches in Christianity. The more any group of Christians are exposed to the meme, the more likely they are to respond that “Trump was anointed by Jesus.”

By party, 40% of Republicans and 26% of Democrats also aligned with the statement “Trump was anointed by Jesus” if they heard the phrase that Democrats would strip them of their religious rights (a repeated theme on the right).

religioninpublic.blog

A reminder that messaging matters, and casting Democrats as people who will take you religious liberty even works on Democrats who are Christians.

Over the last two years, belief that “Trump was anointed by God” has increased measurably across all Christian believers.

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Belafon  May 13, 2020 • 6:35:23am
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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 6:40:24am

re: #78 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Here in Czech Republic, they’ll just put a “reserved” sign on the table so no one will sit there and that’s that. Social distancing accomplished.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 6:42:33am

re: #84 Dr Lizardo

Here in Czech Republic, they’ll just put a “reserved” sign on the table so no one will sit there and that’s that. Social distancing accomplished.

I read about a restaurant in Amsterdam trying this approach:

thedrinksbusiness.com

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 6:43:07am

re: #78 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Weird but effective. Looks kinda cool… Still weird.

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Is Vincent Price in the back of the room at a giant pipe organ?

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 6:44:15am

re: #79 Belafon

Unfortunately, there’s still going to be people who won’t believe it. I’ve even heard it here - “How can we believe geneticists when they say we come from Africa? We’re not Africans, we’re white people.”

*headdesk*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 6:45:26am

re: #87 Dr Lizardo

Unfortunately, there’s still going to be people who won’t believe it. I’ve even heard it here - “How can we believe geneticists when they say we come from Africa? We’re not Africans, we’re white people.”

*headdesk*

“My grandmother was no monkey!”

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 6:47:57am

re: #86 Barefoot Grin

Is Vincent Price in the back of the room at a giant pipe organ?

The Abominable Dr. Phibes

I love that movie.

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 6:48:39am

I know others have already experienced this, but allergy season is just hitting me, and it’s unnerving: wake up with a cough (not dry, of course), sneezing, a little achy from lack of sleep…. Loratadine helps pretty well, though.

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 6:48:57am

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

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I love that movie.

Me too. Underrated.

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jeffreyw  May 13, 2020 • 6:49:37am

re: #81 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’ve been making oatmeal raisin cookies every week lately because why the fuck not?

What I don’t get is how the same recipe comes out differently every week. Sometimes they spread into one mass of deliciousness and other times they become beautifully formed cookies that bake up perfectly and holds their shape.

Baking Powder vs. Baking Soda

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lizardofid  May 13, 2020 • 6:59:57am

re: #92 jeffreyw

Baking Powder vs. Baking Soda

Yeah Science!

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Belafon  May 13, 2020 • 7:01:06am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 13, 2020 • 7:01:39am

So the bots are out strong on twitter this morning, seeing “red wave”, subpoena Obama, and “Women For Trump” are all trending.

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 7:03:29am

re: #95 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the bots are out strong on twitter this morning, seeing “red wave”, subpoena Obama, and “Women For Trump” are all trending.

They must be worried about something.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 7:03:35am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That polling goes back to why Eric Swalwell was able to beat Pete Stark in CA-15’s primary, because Swalwell used negative attack ads and messages against Stark for being an atheist. (He was turfed out in the very next election after he openly admitted his atheism after he was urged to do so by the Secular Coalition for America.)

Supported women’s access to health care? Gay rights? Expanded access to medical care? Didn’t matter. He was an atheist. That was enough to get Democratic voters to oust him, even though Swalwell had far less money in his campaign war chest.

Bigotry sells on our side of the aisle as well.

That’s also why state senator Megan Hunt here outed herself on a campaign questionnaire. She explicitly stated she wasn’t worried about the GOP, she was worried about Democratic primary opponents using it against her (going bigot). There ain’t a whole lot of Evangelicals in Omaha compared to all Christians.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 13, 2020 • 7:04:30am

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plansbandc  May 13, 2020 • 7:07:12am

re: #75 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would very much like to try that. Might make the turkey somewhat edible.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 13, 2020 • 7:07:56am

re: #95 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the bots are out strong on twitter this morning, seeing “red wave”, subpoena Obama, and “Women For Trump” are all trending.

Women for Trump is like lifeguards for drowning

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plansbandc  May 13, 2020 • 7:08:00am

re: #76 William Lewis

I very much enjoy an oatmeal cookie with butterscotch chips.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 13, 2020 • 7:10:00am

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 13, 2020 • 7:11:37am

Rando commenter:

The central failing of Trump is that he has no goals. He wants to do no real work, and he wants his ass kissed. He wants a bumper sticker to chant, and he wants to be praised like a two year old using a potty chair.

Trump has no goal on the virus. Limit deaths? Get vaccine faster? Either could be top priority. But Trump has no priority.

If two million dead would hurt Democrats politically and ensure his re-election he would literally pressure agencies and governors on policies to maximize the death toll. He has no goal, he sees no problem except if it affects him.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 13, 2020 • 7:14:35am

“President Trump and members of his coronavirus task force are pushing officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to change how the agency works with states to count coronavirus-related deaths,” the Daily Beast reports.

“And they’re pushing for revisions that could lead to far fewer deaths being counted than originally reported, according to five administration officials working on the government’s response to the pandemic.”
….
We all knew this was coming. Instead of working to actually reduce deaths, he’s working to reduce the counting of deaths

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Belafon  May 13, 2020 • 7:16:07am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You’ll have to give me examples, because it sounds like Swalwell won the same way AOC won: Convincing people that Stark was acting like he deserved the seat.

politico.com

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Belafon  May 13, 2020 • 7:17:23am

re: #104 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

“If you’ll stop counting debt at my casinos, then we can keep them open.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 7:18:56am

re: #106 Belafon

“If you’ll stop counting debt at my casinos, then we can keep them open.”

If you just released your tax returns, nobody would have to subpoena them…

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 13, 2020 • 7:19:55am

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

I brought home root beer one time (it’s not easy to find here in Czech Republic) and my ex, who’d never heard of it, took a swig - and promptly ran to the sink to spit it out. She said, “Jesus, what the hell is that, furniture polish?!”

LOL. She also couldn’t stand peanut butter as I later discovered. She tried a bite of a PBJ I’d made and concluded us Americans are all insane, at least when it comes to cuisine.

Remember this?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2020 • 7:20:56am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(more, with polling from Religion in Public)

Huggy Jesus Meme Makes Evangelicals More Likely To Believe Trump Is Anointed By God (Wonkette)

What would one expect when thousands of Pulpit Pimps proclaim Trump to be God’s Anointed King?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 7:22:38am

re: #105 Belafon

You’ll have to give me examples, because it sounds like Swalwell won the same way AOC won: Convincing people that Stark was acting like he deserved the seat.

politico.com

friendlyatheist.patheos.com

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 13, 2020 • 7:28:45am

re: #62 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Western good morning!

Also not a bird.

ETA:

(That’s so annoying.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 13, 2020 • 7:34:21am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

I miss that. The only root beer I’ve ever found here is Barq’s. On the bright side, I saw Reese’s Peanut Butter Cups last week when I shopping at Kaufland. Until recently, those were very difficult to find here. I let a student of mine know - she’ll be delighted. She loves ‘em….her brother-in-law is American and she got hooked on them when he brought some over.

When I was working with the Brazilians there was a lot of food discussion and exchanges. One thing I discovered was that they liked Peanut Butter M&Ms (I kept a jar of M&Ms at my desk for public consumption). So when the IT people from there went back home I usually made sure they had a bag to take home with them.

There pretty much was a constant candy exchange going on; our stuff going south or to Europe (since we had facilities in Germany), Brazilian sweets coming north, and wide varieties of gummy products from Germany.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 13, 2020 • 7:36:00am

this is amazing

Wuhan To Test All 11 Million Residents For COVID-19

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 7:36:03am

re: #108 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Remember this?

Heh, that was probably one of my favorite scenes in the entire Star Trek fictional universe.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 7:36:12am

re: #105 Belafon

It’s also noteworthy that though so-called nones are a larger percentage of the populace than any minority group, we have virtually no representation in any level of government.

In the Congress, Senator Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) is the closest, who repeatedly brushes aside such questions with an “I don’t want to talk about it.” Why Barney Frank only came out after he was out of office. Why the state with the most open atheists in office is mine (2 across all levels of government, it used to be 3 until my town decided neo-Nazi was better than atheist).

Politics isn’t beanbags, and in a close race if you can appeal to bigotry to gain an edge, it is very tempting to do that. When you’re not in the minority group in question, it’s sometimes difficult to see the bigotry at work.

That’s why Sen. Megan Hunt here outed herself in the beginning of her campaign, because she was short-circuiting Democratic challengers using that against her, not Republicans. (Republicans think that about us anyway.)

It’s why it took over forty years to get the DNC to acknowledge in the platform we are an important constituency and important contributors to life in the USA, because Democrats who are Christians repeatedly blocked it on the platform committee. (I wrote about that here in a sidebar article some time ago.)

It’s why in poll after poll by Pew, atheists are ranked less trustworthy than rapists or paedophiles. (I presume Pew polls Democrats for their Religion in Public Life survey as well.)

Yes, Swalwell appealed to bigots to win his primary race.

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lizardofid  May 13, 2020 • 7:36:55am

I’m so here for Erykah Badu as the new voice of Big Tex, at the State Fair of Texas!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 13, 2020 • 7:36:57am

Railway Ticket Worker Dies From Coronavirus After Passenger’s Spit Attack

i weep for civilization

A railway ticket worker in London has died from the coronavirus two weeks after she was spat at and coughed on by a man who said he had COVID-19, the disease caused by the contagion, the transport workers’ union said.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 7:37:27am

Breakfast of champions: heated up a can of Ranch Style Beans with Jalapenos.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 13, 2020 • 7:38:06am

re: #68 ericblair

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Who knew that the opinion that “olds can just go and die for the economy” doesn’t go over very well with olds. Nothing much new here, except that the wingnut farm The Villages is actively enforcing MAGAtude.

it’s kind of a gamble for the Republicans. Each useless old fart they can kill off saves tens of thousands of dollars in social security and Medicare, not to mention veterans benefits, a glut of cheap estates to be bought up, inheritance taxes and the like. Each individual death is pocket change to the GOP donor class but the fatcats know that eradicating enough of them, say, a couple of million, could add up to real money for tax cuts, contract grift, subsidies etc. The craven GOP office holders must therefore balance the financial benefits of this genocide against the political risk of alienating voters who aren’t so eager to die. There is also the risk of being lawfully hanged under the Julius Streicher precedent but they remain confident that their propaganda arm can keep that under control. I hope to prove them wrong.

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 7:39:14am

re: #117 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Railway Ticket Worker Dies From Coronavirus After Passenger’s Spit Attack

i weep for civilization

Manslaughter?

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William Lewis  May 13, 2020 • 7:39:26am

Well, the racists won the special election up here in Wisconsin’s 7th Congressional. The Republican won by 14 points (which is an improvement over the 20 last time but still…). Up here it is almost exclusively due to the make sure the Blacks, Browns and most importantly Natives are treated even worse and it doesn’t matter how bad their lives are.

In addition I saw a huge number of idiots gathered in the parking lot at the nearby Methodist church. I doubt any of them attend there - it’s almost as elderly a congregation as our Episcopal church and they’ve been using facebook for services - but it’s a nice big lot for all their cars and “welcome home” shit for someone. Wonder if we’ll get a spike in our local numbers from it?

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The Pie Overlord!  May 13, 2020 • 7:40:22am

More batshit insane Tweets this morning (not embedding here). It is a day ending in “day”

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sagehen  May 13, 2020 • 7:41:04am

re: #68 ericblair

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Who knew that the opinion that “olds can just go and die for the economy” doesn’t go over very well with olds. Nothing much new here, except that the wingnut farm The Villages is actively enforcing MAGAtude.

“The people my age, we have become dispensable,” says Wendy Penk, a lifelong Republican in her 60s from Charlotte, North Carolina.

Ms. Penk, like the Johnsons, voted for Mr. Trump last time around, but is now part of a “Republicans for Biden” Facebook group. She worries about her husband’s health, and says Mr. Trump’s handling of the pandemic cemented her decision to vote a “straight blue” ticket in November.

“I’ve never seen this level of mishandling my entire life, and I was around during Richard Nixon and Watergate,” says Ms. Penk. “This coronavirus situation has just highlighted how inept [President Trump] is.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 13, 2020 • 7:44:38am

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Breakfast of champions: heated up a can of Ranch Style Beans with Jalapenos.

I cooked pinto beans in the slow cooker overnight. Was not quite that tempted to have them for breakfast - though I did sample them to make sure they were tender. (Spicy!)

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 13, 2020 • 7:45:32am

re: #120 Barefoot Grin

Manslaughter?

if they can find the guy

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lawhawk  May 13, 2020 • 7:45:36am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 13, 2020 • 7:46:32am

Surf and bird for a sunny morning

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 7:50:17am

re: #108 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Remember this?

This is my favorite scene:

Guinan Give Lt. Worf Prune Juice (warrior drink)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 7:51:36am

re: #117 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Railway Ticket Worker Dies From Coronavirus After Passenger’s Spit Attack

i weep for civilization

We are going to be seeing more of this as people throw fits about being “forced to compromise their Constitutional Freedoms” by wearing masks and observing distancing regulations.

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 7:53:13am

re: #123 sagehen

At least the scales have fallen from one person’s eyes. And hopefully, there will be many more such epiphanies between now and Election Day.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 7:54:42am

[deleted by me due to misinterpretation of the data]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 7:55:32am

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

At least the scales have fallen from one person’s eyes. And hopefully, there will be many more such epiphanies between now and Election Day.

that is only part of the equation. we have to get these people to the polls (and in the right places) and we have to get those votes counted and registered…

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 13, 2020 • 7:57:15am

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Heh, that was probably one of my favorite scenes in the entire Star Trek fictional universe.

When it first aired, I had a co-worker (of English origin) who was also a fan. The day after The Way of the Warrior first aired, I asked him what he’d thought of it, and he hadn’t had time to watch it yet (so not so much of a fan, I’d say, but he had a family). I told him to pay attention to the root beer scene — he’d know when he got to it.

The next day, he came in laughing his ass off and told me that was exactly his reaction to root beer. Including the “get to like it” part.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 7:59:17am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I deleted the above because I misinterpreted the data. (Refreshing will give you that statement in place of the post.)

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 7:59:57am

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is only part of the equation. we have to get these people to the polls (and in the right places) and we have to get those votes counted and registered…

Absolutely. Hopefully, such people will be sufficiently motivated to turn out in numbers large enough to swamp the Trump cultists.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 13, 2020 • 8:00:33am

re: #123 sagehen

“The people my age, we have become dispensable,” says Wendy Penk, a lifelong Republican in her 60s from Charlotte, North Carolina.

Ms. Penk, like the Johnsons, voted for Mr. Trump last time around, but is now part of a “Republicans for Biden” Facebook group. She worries about her husband’s health, and says Mr. Trump’s handling of the pandemic cemented her decision to vote a “straight blue” ticket in November.

“I’ve never seen this level of mishandling my entire life, and I was around during Richard Nixon and Watergate,” says Ms. Penk. “This coronavirus situation has just highlighted how inept [President Trump] is.”

“The worst example of incompetence in the history of the Presidency.”

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2020 • 8:00:54am

re: #133 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

When it first aired, I had a co-worker (of English origin) who was also a fan. The day after The Way of the Warrior first aired, I asked him what he’d thought of it, and he hadn’t had time to watch it yet (so not so much of a fan, I’d say, but he had a family). I told him to pay attention to the root beer scene — he’d know when he got to it.

The next day, he came in laughing his ass off and told me that was exactly his reaction to root beer. Including the “get to like it” part.

I’ve been drinking root beer since I was a kid, so for me, it’s nothing really unusual. But I’d imagine for others, it’s definitely an acquired taste.

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wrenchwench  May 13, 2020 • 8:01:20am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thank you. I thought I might be having a head injury moment.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 13, 2020 • 8:01:27am

re: #120 Barefoot Grin

Manslaughter?

There’s no evidence as yet that he did have covid-19.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 8:02:16am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

I’ve been drinking root beer since I was a kid, so for me, it’s nothing really unusual. But I’d imagine for others, it’s definitely an acquired taste.

Have you ever tried Dr Pepper? Now that is an acquired taste. I used to be very fond of it.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 13, 2020 • 8:02:33am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We are going to be seeing more of this as people throw fits about being “forced to compromise their Constitutional Freedoms” by wearing masks and observing distancing regulations.

i hear ya

and ill never understand how my freedom to not wear a mask can equate to spitting on a railroad ticket taker

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William Lewis  May 13, 2020 • 8:07:27am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have you ever tried Dr Pepper? Now that is an acquired taste. I used to be very fond of it.

Warm it up with a slice of lemon. Nice winter drink.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 13, 2020 • 8:07:42am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is my favorite scene:

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Video

I like that one, but my favorite Guinan scene is this.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 13, 2020 • 8:08:18am

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

I’ve been drinking root beer since I was a kid, so for me, it’s nothing really unusual. But I’d imagine for others, it’s definitely an acquired taste.

I remember drinking birch beer when I was younger. And also discovered at an older age the great difference between the more commercial brands of root beer and birch beer and the more traditional recipes using ingredients like sugar instead of corn syrup.

And I’d say that root beer benefited from the micro brewery movement since a number of brew pubs were making root beer as a non-alcoholic alternative beverage for their establishments.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 8:09:23am

re: #143 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I like that one, but my favorite Guinan scene is this.

just watched that episode last week

mostly because there is little else on Netfilx that I wanna watch…at least on my own.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 8:10:38am

I have become a big fan of Bionade, a fermented, non-alcoholic soft drink that has really caught on in Germany.

But nowadays I just mix fruit juice with sparkling water if I want a fizzy drink.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 13, 2020 • 8:10:46am

re: #143 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

That was a great scene from one of my all time favourite Trek episodes. Guinan can also be a badass when she wants to be:

Guinan’s Gun, setting number 2

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 13, 2020 • 8:11:33am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have you ever tried Dr Pepper? Now that is an acquired taste. I used to be very fond of it.

Dr Pepper was the unofficial official drink of my fraternity*. I recall a number of people converting to it from Coke or Pepsi while they were undergraduates.

* - Yes, it was not beer. For one, the drinking age in PA was 21 and most of the undergraduate members were under that age. We also had non-drinkers as well, and for a lot of social activities you’d drink pop** rather than alcohol anyways.

** - Yes, my chapter was in that part of the country.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 13, 2020 • 8:12:18am

re: #141 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

i hear ya

and ill never understand how my freedom to not wear a mask can equate to spitting on a railroad ticket taker

A petty authority in the flesh that one thinks they can flaunt with relative impunity?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 13, 2020 • 8:12:32am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

just watched that episode last week

mostly because there is little else on Netfilx that I wanna watch…at least on my own.

Have you watched The Good Place?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 8:13:13am

re: #141 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

i hear ya

and ill never understand how my freedom to not wear a mask can equate to spitting on a railroad ticket taker

Well, they don’t have a lot of guns in the United Kingdom.

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plansbandc  May 13, 2020 • 8:13:36am
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Disloyal Archangel  May 13, 2020 • 8:16:23am

Screw every last one of those bastards.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 8:17:35am

re: #144 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I remember drinking birch beer when I was younger. And also discovered at an older age the great difference between the more commercial brands of root beer and birch beer and the more traditional recipes using ingredients like sugar instead of corn syrup.

And I’d say that root beer benefited from the micro brewery movement since a number of brew pubs were making root beer as a non-alcoholic alternative beverage for their establishments.

That, and sarsaparilla has been withdrawn from commercial root beer as a “likely carcinogen” by the FDA. Additionally, many traditional medical claims for the root have been conclusively shown in studies to be of no benefit.

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Belafon  May 13, 2020 • 8:17:59am

My county has decided to go to weekly updates rather than daily ones. There were 15 new cases over the last week.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 8:18:47am

re: #150 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Have you watched The Good Place?

I watched some of that with my kids, but would not watch it alone. Same applies for series like The Witcher or Stranger Things.

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 8:20:07am

re: #139 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

There’s no evidence as yet that he did have covid-19.

Yeah, I reckon it would be very difficult to prove.

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lawhawk  May 13, 2020 • 8:20:34am

So, a few weeks back, I was asked to participate in a SSRS poll. They’ve since released the results.

It focused on safety in groups considering covid19, and overwhelming majority of respondents said it wasn’t safe to be in groups over a few people. My own responses to the topline question was
4 - one other person
3- a few people
1 - anything over a few people.

It’s clear that an overwhelming majority of Americans know it’s not safe to reopen, which makes any effort to try and get sports restarted, or to get businesses to reopen is foolhardy because you can mandate opening, but people simply aren’t going to turn out. They’re smarter than Trump and the feckless GOPers. And even in states where Democrats are doing a better job, the public isn’t going to jump back to a normal routine any time soon because the odds of a reemergence of covid19 is too high and there aren’t enough tests being run to make it safe to do so.

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Disloyal Archangel  May 13, 2020 • 8:20:35am

re: #150 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Have you watched The Good Place?

Brilliant show, that one, from start to end.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 8:20:39am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That, and sarsaparilla has been withdrawn from commercial root beer as a “likely carcinogen” by the FDA. Additionally, many traditional medical claims for the root have been conclusively shown in studies to be of no benefit.

We used to go dig up sassafras root around Bloomington, Indiana and make tea out of it.

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 8:21:42am

In the south, my mom and her friends used to buy a package of salted peanuts and an RC Cola and put the peanuts in the cola to drink, then eat the peanuts out of the bottle.

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 8:22:30am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We used to go dig up sassafras root around Bloomington, Indiana and make tea out of it.

I didn’t know about sassafras, but I know there’s ginseng and morel mushrooms in them hills.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 8:25:50am

(1:32, advert from Republicans for the Rule of Law)

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Disloyal Archangel  May 13, 2020 • 8:30:30am

At 83,000 deaths, we’re now at 20,750 domestic Benghazis.
Not that I expect the GOP to be willing to keep track.

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Jay C  May 13, 2020 • 8:32:36am

re: #163 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(1:32, advert from Republicans for the Rule of Law)

[Embedded content]

So wonder what Joe Biden “lies” these GOPer volunteers are expected to try to “refute” with their Trump-humper callathon?

I know I already have MY rote response prepared should I be unfortunate enough to receive one of these calls: i.e.

“I am firmly convinced that Donald Trump is a dishonest charlatan, and a criminally corrupt incompetent, and will be voting for every Democrat I possibly can in order to save the country [Fuck you very much].”

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Decatur Deb  May 13, 2020 • 8:33:05am

re: #164 Disloyal Archangel

At 83,000 deaths, we’re now at 20,750 domestic Benghazis.
Not that I expect the GOP to be willing to keep track.

Why can Republicans only count to 5?

Because their other hand is in your pocket.

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Belafon  May 13, 2020 • 8:33:12am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 8:41:01am

re: #167 Belafon

Surely Mike Pompeo has our best interests at heart? /s

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Citizen K  May 13, 2020 • 8:43:30am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 13, 2020 • 8:46:18am

re: #92 jeffreyw

Baking Powder vs. Baking Soda

That was helpful. Thank you!

(Note to self; more baking powder)

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Belafon  May 13, 2020 • 8:46:33am

re: #169 Citizen K

“My husband had Covid-19. He died because of it!”
“No, ma’am. It wasn’t the virus. It was because of his refusal to get out of bed. Don’t you see?”

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lawhawk  May 13, 2020 • 8:47:42am

This isn’t getting nearly the kind of attention that it should. We all know that Trump decided to move from NY to FL. He’s set his home address as Mar a Lago, except that it’s a business. And that’s a problem. It can’t be both a private club and a private residence.

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Citizen K  May 13, 2020 • 8:50:59am

re: #171 Belafon

“My husband had Covid-19. He died because of it!”
“No, ma’am. It wasn’t the virus. It was because of his refusal to get out of bed. Don’t you see?”

The whole thing is like…how likely is it exactly that someone contracts Covid-19 and dies of an ‘unrelated’ condition? Especially considering that the more we’re learning about it, the more we’re finding that not only do many conditions make it easier to contract Covid, but the disease also aggravates those existing conditions in turn. Like…unless you end up getting the disease and then get hit by a truck, or take a bad blow to the head (which would in turn make the C.O.D. pretty damn obvious), it’s like…yeah, it might not have been the direct cause of death, but you still likely died because of it.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 13, 2020 • 8:54:55am

re: #173 Citizen K

The whole thing is like…how likely is it exactly that someone contracts Covid-19 and dies of an ‘unrelated’ condition? Especially considering that the more we’re learning about it, the more we’re finding that not only do many conditions make it easier to contract Covid, but the disease also aggravates those existing conditions in turn. Like…unless you end up getting the disease and then get hit by a truck, or take a bad blow to the head (which would in turn make the C.O.D. pretty damn obvious), it’s like…yeah, it might not have been the direct cause of death, but you still likely died because of it.

This is something to be decided by doctors and similarly qualified people, not by you or me. And certainly not by DT and his minions.

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sagehen  May 13, 2020 • 8:55:55am

re: #169 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

don’t count the ones who don’t have confirmed test results?

So… if we stop testing, we can say nobody dies of it.

(alternatively… if we line up all the infected and machine gun them, they didn’t die of Covid-19 either).

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Citizen K  May 13, 2020 • 8:56:17am

re: #172 lawhawk

This isn’t getting nearly the kind of attention that it should. We all know that Trump decided to move from NY to FL. He’s set his home address as Mar a Lago, except that it’s a business. And that’s a problem. It can’t be both a private club and a private residence.

[Embedded content]

What about “Trump is an infallible God-King and can do whatever he wants without consequence” don’t you get exactly? ///

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 13, 2020 • 8:56:31am

Cooking the books so bad even Enron is like: “DAMNNNNNN….”

Unfortunately, you can’t just toss dead bodies in a shredder.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 8:59:11am

re: #172 lawhawk

This isn’t getting nearly the kind of attention that it should. We all know that Trump decided to move from NY to FL. He’s set his home address as Mar a Lago, except that it’s a business. And that’s a problem. It can’t be both a private club and a private residence.

as was discussed here, part of his reasoning is that a “private residence” cannot be seized in payment of fines or back taxes owed and Florida’s is a lot more generous in allowing what one can claim as a “private residence”.

But this is the very sort of failure to think things through that he is famous for…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 9:00:21am

re: #176 Citizen K

What about “Trump is an infallible God-King and can do whatever he wants without consequence” don’t you get exactly? ///

He is not above the law, he is the law…and not just human law, but God’s Divine Law incarnate!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 13, 2020 • 9:01:39am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is not above the law, he is the law…and not just human law, but God’s Divine Law incarnate!!!

(HD) Judge Dredd - I Am The Law Speech

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jeffreyw  May 13, 2020 • 9:02:54am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We used to go dig up sassafras root around Bloomington, Indiana and make tea out of it.

Yeah, my Mom always made it into tea here in S Illinois it grows everywhere. They used to sell bundles of split root at the corner A&P.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 9:02:56am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 13, 2020 • 9:03:53am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“If we just ignore it, maybe it will go away.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 9:05:14am

re: #173 Citizen K

The whole thing is like…how likely is it exactly that someone contracts Covid-19 and dies of an ‘unrelated’ condition? Especially considering that the more we’re learning about it, the more we’re finding that not only do many conditions make it easier to contract Covid, but the disease also aggravates those existing conditions in turn. Like…unless you end up getting the disease and then get hit by a truck, or take a bad blow to the head (which would in turn make the C.O.D. pretty damn obvious), it’s like…yeah, it might not have been the direct cause of death, but you still likely died because of it.

Prosecutor: I contend the victim was murdered with this handgun.
Defence: That is incorrect, he had cancer, which was a preëxisting condition. We can never know what he died of.

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lawhawk  May 13, 2020 • 9:05:34am

re: #173 Citizen K

The whole thing is like…how likely is it exactly that someone contracts Covid-19 and dies of an ‘unrelated’ condition? Especially considering that the more we’re learning about it, the more we’re finding that not only do many conditions make it easier to contract Covid, but the disease also aggravates those existing conditions in turn. Like…unless you end up getting the disease and then get hit by a truck, or take a bad blow to the head (which would in turn make the C.O.D. pretty damn obvious), it’s like…yeah, it might not have been the direct cause of death, but you still likely died because of it.

Pre-covid19, more than 1/3 of all death certificates listed an incorrect cause of death.

People generally die of heart attacks (their heart stops beating). But the underlying COD is anything from cancer to DVT to covid19. Since most people aren’t getting medical examiners to investigate their deaths, it’s up to the pronouncing doctor/health practictioner.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 9:08:04am

re: #174 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

This is something to be decided by doctors and similarly qualified people, not by you or me. And certainly not by DT and his minions.

Minion Dr. Birx is in fact a doctor. She is however, a conservative first and a healer second.

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Teddy's Person  May 13, 2020 • 9:11:22am

Jared floating a test balloon about November’s election to see if the media will normalize the idea.

When asked if there was a chance the presidential election could be postponed past November 3 due to the pandemic, Kushner said that isn’t his decision. “I’m not sure I can commit one way or the other, but right now that’s the plan,” he said. Source: Time 100 Talks

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 9:11:57am
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Dave In Austin  May 13, 2020 • 9:11:58am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 13, 2020 • 9:14:40am

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have you ever tried Dr Pepper? Now that is an acquired taste. I used to be very fond of it.

I love it, no one else in my family can stand it.

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stpaulbear  May 13, 2020 • 9:16:45am

re: #162 Barefoot Grin

I didn’t know about sassafras, but I know there’s ginseng and morel mushrooms in them hills.

It pairs up well with hot smoke.

BUBBLE PUPPY - Hot Smoke & Sassafras

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Mike Lamb  May 13, 2020 • 9:16:54am

re: #173 Citizen K

The whole thing is like…how likely is it exactly that someone contracts Covid-19 and dies of an ‘unrelated’ condition? Especially considering that the more we’re learning about it, the more we’re finding that not only do many conditions make it easier to contract Covid, but the disease also aggravates those existing conditions in turn. Like…unless you end up getting the disease and then get hit by a truck, or take a bad blow to the head (which would in turn make the C.O.D. pretty damn obvious), it’s like…yeah, it might not have been the direct cause of death, but you still likely died because of it.

Doesn’t matter. It’s conservative dogma that people are dying “with” COVID not “from” it—with the accompanying conspiracy theory that it’s a monetary thing for hospitals to label everything a COVID related death. The other related talking point is that most of the people dying have already outlived average life expectancy in the US—so no biggie.

Forget that a recent study found that the average person dying from COVID would have lived an additional 10 years. Forget also that the actual evidence strongly supports the position that deaths have been significantly undercounted.

I mean, their talking point for a looong time was that it wasn’t even as problematic as the bad flu season we just had. Aside from COVID deaths already having blown last flu season out of the water, there is probably a really good chance that the “bad” flu season was undetected COVID related fatalities.

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Mike Lamb  May 13, 2020 • 9:18:42am

re: #187 Teddy’s Person

Jared floating a test balloon about November’s election to see if the media will normalize the idea.

As noted elsewhere…why the fuck is even being asked this question and why the fuck is it even remotely up to him whether to “commit” to that idea?

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retired cynic  May 13, 2020 • 9:19:08am

deleted, as it was in response to a deleted post!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 13, 2020 • 9:19:15am

re: #156 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I watched some of that with my kids, but would not watch it alone. Same applies for series like The Witcher or Stranger Things.

Witcher is a great PS4 game. I need to watch the show because the game story is so good.

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Citizen K  May 13, 2020 • 9:20:20am
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retired cynic  May 13, 2020 • 9:20:45am

re: #194 retired cynic

Post was deleted, so please refresh!

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retired cynic  May 13, 2020 • 9:26:36am

re: #157 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, I reckon it would be very difficult to prove.

Prove, yes. But both attendants that he coughed on came down with it as a similar time. The other just didn’t die.

No one chased him down, so unless he feels remorse and comes forward, or bragged about it afterwards and someone rats him out, HE is likely safe. Wish Karma could visit him, big time.

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retired cynic  May 13, 2020 • 9:27:57am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We used to go dig up sassafras root around Bloomington, Indiana and make tea out of it.

My grandparents always did, and I loved the smell! (Has everyone gone to lunch?)

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Hecuba's daughter  May 13, 2020 • 9:28:15am

re: #83 Belafon

Russia is # 3 — Spain is #2, but by the end of the week Russia will probably surpass Spain.

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retired cynic  May 13, 2020 • 9:35:29am

re: #181 jeffreyw

Yeah, my Mom always made it into tea here in S Illinois it grows everywhere. They used to sell bundles of split root at the corner A&P.

And I LOVED sassafras tea, and can smell it now! Just as clearly as chocolate, and I’ve had chocolate a LOT more recently than I have sassafras, by 50 years, anyway!

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Mike Lamb  May 13, 2020 • 9:38:52am

re: #196 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

Someone spouting this nonsense needs to help me with this question:

What elected official is helped by an economic shut down, high unemployment, and a citizenry that can’t engage in most of their favorite activities?

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retired cynic  May 13, 2020 • 9:41:09am

re: #187 Teddy’s Person

Jared floating a test balloon about November’s election to see if the media will normalize the idea.

He is moving up my list of people I can live without into the proactive category.

Here is another: GQ on Rand Paul.

And since I’m doing too much posting here, maybe I’d better get to work!

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Belafon  May 13, 2020 • 9:44:09am

re: #202 Mike Lamb

Someone spouting this nonsense needs to help me with this question:

What elected official is helped by an economic shut down, high unemployment, and a citizenry that can’t engage in most of their favorite activities?

Someone who can make it about loving your neighbor as yourself.

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Dave In Austin  May 13, 2020 • 9:47:12am

FknA!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 9:49:13am

re: #202 Mike Lamb

Someone spouting this nonsense needs to help me with this question:

What elected official is helped by an economic shut down, high unemployment, and a citizenry that can’t engage in most of their favorite activities?

Point is that people will rally around a leader, regardless of the state of the economy, if he shows resolute and effective leadership. He can promise them nothing but blood, sweat, toil and tears and they will stick with him if they think he can help them overcome the crisis at hand.

That is beyond DT’s capabilities.

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Barefoot Grin  May 13, 2020 • 9:49:42am

In the 1980s current CDC director Robert Redfield was exactly one of these people. Tells you something about his qualities and part of the reason morale at the CDC has sunk so low.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 9:52:20am

United Kingdom economic statistics:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2020 • 9:54:56am

re: #160 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We used to go dig up sassafras root around Bloomington, Indiana and make tea out of it.

We still do that here in TheBackwoods (sassafras is pretty much a weed tree, like sumac is).
Bonus is making file powder from the sassafras leaves

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 9:55:31am

re: #207 Barefoot Grin

In the 1980s current CDC director Robert Redfield was exactly one of these people. Tells you something about his qualities and part of the reason morale at the CDC has sunk so low.

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John Hughes  May 13, 2020 • 9:55:54am

re: #175 sagehen

(alternatively… if we line up all the infected and machine gun them, they didn’t die of Covid-19 either).

Oh, come on, that would be messy and obvious.

The easy way, field tested in the General Government was a van with the exhaust routed into the back. Should be easy to convert ambulances like that, then the “problem” will be “solved” on the trip from the home to the hospital.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 10:00:22am

Well, he defeated the ultra wingnut.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2020 • 10:01:28am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

GDP fell 5.8% in March; services (-6.2%) and construction (-5.9%) both saw record monthly falls, while manufacturing also fell 4.6%

Yeah but we don’t know how much of that was Covid and how much was Brexit…after all, their economy had a pre-existing condition.

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Alephnaught  May 13, 2020 • 10:17:27am

re: #39 Jack Burton

They always say things like:

Claiming (insert something here) is a pretext to create a global government.

I tend to read the underlying context of that as them basically saying:

Oh no!!! We’re going to lose power!!!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 13, 2020 • 10:33:04am

{moved to next thread}

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2020 • 10:45:50am

re: #196 Citizen K

[Embedded content]

Orwell weeps in Heaven.

“The Republican Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

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Decatur Deb  May 13, 2020 • 10:51:41am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

We still do that here in TheBackwoods (sassafras is pretty much a weed tree, like sumac is).
Bonus is making file powder from the sassafras leaves

Once, doing an archeological survey in the Little Sandy, a random test pit put me in the middle of a bunch of sassafras shoots/roots. Gathered a couple pounds in passing. HOWEVER, that was the year sassafras was identified as a carcinogen. The rules then were that sassafras materials could be sold for tea, but that it could not be incorporated in commercial products.


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