And Now, Ze Frank’s True Facts About BatFishes

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Alex Brett
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Alex inspired this episode with his amazing Batfish footage. He just launched his channel in earnest - go and sub!

Barrett Christie
maritimeaquarium.org
Barrett shared his knowledge with me, and is an expert on fish husbandry. His spawning footage is very rare and shows that batfish spawn in a similar way to some other anglerfish.

Javi
vimeo.com
Javi has some really amazing videos on his Vimeo account. There is a pretty amazing aquatic collection over on Vimeo!

Ariane Dimitris
youtube.com
It took me a while to track Ariane down but her longnosed Batfish clip in so good!

LiquidGuru
vimeo.com
LiquidGuru is a pro. Just gets such beautiful views into Aquatic life! His juvenile Orbicular Batfish is so well done.

Raymond Powers
pureflorida.blogspot.com
Raymond came through with the feeding footage at the last second. It is very rare to see them eat, especially in captivity!

Thanks also to the NOAA, Barry Peters, Nico Michiels,
and Gilles San Martin for the use of their images.

Additional footage under license from Shutterstock.

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239 comments
1
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 14, 2020 • 7:54:52pm

CLed (pbuh) on the last thread of course.

re: #142 Joe Bacon 🌹

So these fucking assholes are now alleging that Bill and Melinda Gates are both transexuals…

littlegreenfootballs.com

We are Legion. Bow down to your new Trans-Overlords.

///////

I am now heading to bed. I am sure that the Demon Spawn is just waiting to wake me in 6 or so hours. Sleep well Lizards.

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gocart mozart  May 14, 2020 • 7:55:01pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 14, 2020 • 7:57:48pm

re: #1 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

CLed (pbuh) on the last thread of course.

re: #142 Joe Bacon 🌹

So these fucking assholes are now alleging that Bill and Melinda Gates are both transexuals…

littlegreenfootballs.com

We are Legion. Bow down to your new Trans-Overlords.

///////

I am now heading to bed. I am sure that the Demon Spawn is just waiting to wake me in 6 or so hours. Sleep well Lizards.

These idiots are assholes. They claimed for years that Michelle Obama was trans.

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Patricia Kayden  May 14, 2020 • 7:59:29pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 14, 2020 • 8:01:10pm

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

Someone should send Trump the clip from “Patton” about the goal being not to die for your country but make the sob virus die for its.

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Sherlock Hound  May 14, 2020 • 8:02:23pm

I hope someone is saving these David Silverstone tweets for his employer.
Social media policy go boom!

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 14, 2020 • 8:04:38pm

Who the fuck is this Siverstone asshole? Fuck him.

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Sherlock Hound  May 14, 2020 • 8:09:48pm

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

Who the fuck is this Siverstone asshole? Fuck him.

A college student and apparent work-study employee, from what he’s said elsewhere. Also a troll and an accelerationist. He’s harassed people on Twitter, and I hope people are taking notes. Otherwise, I totes concur with your analysis and recommendation. //

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Patricia Kayden  May 14, 2020 • 8:12:37pm
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Ace-o-aces  May 14, 2020 • 8:17:24pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 14, 2020 • 8:18:56pm

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Hecuba's daughter  May 14, 2020 • 8:22:55pm

re: #11 Patricia Kayden

That appears to be a fake allegation: snopes.com

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Dread Pirate  May 14, 2020 • 8:25:01pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 14, 2020 • 8:26:06pm

re: #10 Ace-o-aces

Because killing a you know what is not a big deal, right?

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teleskiguy  May 14, 2020 • 8:27:26pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick giving thanks to the 101st Chairborne Division.

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Patricia Kayden  May 14, 2020 • 8:28:08pm

re: #12 Hecuba’s daughter

Okay. Tbh, it’s hard for me to believe that he didn’t say that. 😂

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jaunte  May 14, 2020 • 8:37:07pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

I can hear (Ad Agencies) in Colbert’s Trumpvoice.

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Dread Pirate  May 14, 2020 • 8:37:31pm

Hopefully they follow the CDC recommendation to rinse out the corpse-trailers first.

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Dread Pirate  May 14, 2020 • 8:42:39pm
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Belafon  May 14, 2020 • 8:59:41pm

I just got a notice on my phone that time zones are being updated. I wasn’t expecting to have my time zones updated.

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austin_blue  May 14, 2020 • 9:05:04pm

re: #20 Belafon

I just got a notice on my phone that time zones are being updated. I wasn’t expecting to have my time zones updated.

Dr. Who has interfered to make our zones match up with Universal Time. Suck it up, Earthling.

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Dread Pirate  May 14, 2020 • 9:05:16pm
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sagehen  May 14, 2020 • 9:09:45pm

re: #10 Ace-o-aces

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Reminder:

The arrest wasn’t because THEY saw the video. It’s because WE saw the video.

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austin_blue  May 14, 2020 • 9:12:30pm

I am slightly chateaued. Sometimes we drink to relieve our grief. Night all. Sweet dreams. Talk to you tomorrow.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 14, 2020 • 9:14:30pm

re: #1 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Heh. What I’d say to that (not that I’d dignify this shit with a direct response): And?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 14, 2020 • 9:38:27pm

Q said that Comey was arrested on Sunday.

He wasn’t

Q said that John Brennan was arrested on Monday.

He wasn’t.

Q said that Lisa Page was arrested on Tuesday.

She wasn’t

Q said that Peter Strzok was arrested on Wednesday.

He wasn’t.

Q said that Hillary and Bill would be arrested today.

They weren’t.

Yet assholes still believe the Q shit no matter what…

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Citizen K  May 14, 2020 • 9:41:08pm

I hope you’re ready for 6 more months of this shit.

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Dr Lizardo  May 14, 2020 • 9:42:55pm

re: #26 Joe Bacon 🌹

I strongly suspect that the current iteration of “QAnon” (there’s been a few since that got started) is Jim Watkins, the owner of the 8kun (formerly known as 8chan) website.

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jaunte  May 14, 2020 • 9:43:44pm
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Dread Pirate  May 14, 2020 • 9:53:37pm
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Belafon  May 14, 2020 • 9:54:48pm

re: #29 jaunte

The seven stages of grief are believed to be disbelief, denial, bargaining, guilt, anger, depression, and acceptance/hope.

We’re currently at denial. Bargaining will come as more family members start getting sick.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 14, 2020 • 9:59:37pm

re: #26 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yeah, that’s the point.

The certainty that they, the believers are connected to both Truth and Morality, in a unique manner that transcends any operational definition of those words, because they have received knowledge. Why is it True, and Moral? Because they, as the elect, deem it to be.

The circular logic is the appeal, because it sanctifies their vague feelings and flights of fancy—that they’re the heroes in a cosmic war again ultimate depravity, even though they’re not doing anything appreciably heroic even before you consider how ill-chosen their tactics and allies are—are the only important thing in the world.

At the base of this is a fundamental rejection of reality: what happened is not important compared to their feeling that they have secret knowledge. It’s not narcissism in the clinical sense, but it is a kind of narcissism, Festinger’s “When Prophecy Fails” sped up and looped: they’ve pinned their egos to an idea, so when the idea fails reality testing…by not happening…they’re left with the choice of excising that part of themselves (by confronting the flawed belief) or finding a method of holding the belief (and thus preserving their self-understanding) in spite of its failure.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 14, 2020 • 10:08:33pm

re: #32 The Ghost of a Flea

Every “prediction” Q has made has been false yet these assholes continue to push this shit. And it’s repeated in thousands of churches every Sunday.

Just SMDH…

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Hecuba's daughter  May 14, 2020 • 10:13:57pm

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

Every “prediction” Q has made has been false yet these assholes continue to push this shit. And it’s repeated in thousands of churches every Sunday.

Just SMDH…

Q may be pushing these theories, but my brother gets his conspiracies from Fox, Gingrich, and other more traditional sources of Republican disinformation. I don’t know if Q feeds on them or they get their stories from Q, or Q just exaggerates standard RW fare.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 14, 2020 • 10:19:37pm

What is Flynn thinking? Even if he gets off, the incoming Biden admin could charge him with crimes that he hasn’t been charged with yet (unregistered foreign agent comes to mind). A pardon from trump would not work against future crimes. I would be overjoyed if this happened. Get out now, pay latter.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 14, 2020 • 10:38:47pm

re: #35 I Would Prefer Not To

What is Flynn thinking? Even if he gets off, the incoming Biden admin could charge him with crimes that he hasn’t been charged with yet (unregistered foreign agent comes to mind). A pardon from trump would not work against future crimes. I would be overjoyed if this happened. Get out now, pay latter.

Does anyone think Flynn won’t be running into the Russian Embassy to request political asylum the minute Joe is elected?

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 14, 2020 • 10:41:39pm

re: #36 Joe Bacon 🌹

Does anyone think Flynn won’t be running into the Russian Embassy to request political asylum the minute Joe is elected?

Shows he’s guilty. And for the rest of his life we can call him a traitor and a coward.

Also, Snowden.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 14, 2020 • 10:42:17pm

re: #37 I Would Prefer Not To

Shows he’s guilty. And for the rest of his life we can call him a traitor and a coward.

Also, Snowden.

You’re right!

Just like Snowden!

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Ace-o-aces  May 14, 2020 • 10:50:48pm

Can’t quite put my finger on it….

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Jack Burton  May 14, 2020 • 10:50:58pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon 🌹

You’re right!

Just like Snowden!

BernieBros still think Snowden is a “whistleblower” and a “hero”…
I’m guessing Flynn will be too.

Funny how they always seem to agree with Russian bullshit.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 14, 2020 • 10:52:20pm

Hamster Escapes Cage To Go Exploring! | Pets: Wild At Heart | BBC Earth

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mmmirele  May 14, 2020 • 10:56:51pm

re: #30 Dread Pirate

Speaking of Fox working from home until at least June 15, here’s an update from my evil too big to fail employer:

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Dread Pirate  May 14, 2020 • 11:28:55pm

moron

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2020 • 12:19:05am
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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 12:42:03am

re: #44 teleskiguy

And these folks vote. Arguably, they’re more likely to vote than much of the general population as they’re more highly motivated.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 15, 2020 • 12:48:23am

Bach - WTC I Prelude and fugue in B minor BWV 869 - Van Asperen | Netherlands Bach Society

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 1:16:13am

re: #12 Hecuba’s daughter

That appears to be a fake allegation: snopes.com

I am constantly slapping my nephew down on FB for spreading statements like that…not that I like Trump even the tiniest little bit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 1:59:04am

re: #43 Dread Pirate

US President Donald Trump’s threat to end offshore manufacturing of parts of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter has thrown thousands of Australian defence manufacturing jobs into doubt

zero-sum Donald

Australia is one of our main allies in a region where China is highly dominant…

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2020 • 2:15:49am

re: #19 Dread Pirate

(White House Graphic Novel)

The curve fits better if you do it with a sharpie.

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 2:46:41am

re: #19 Dread Pirate

In the Global Warming “debates” fitting mathematical curves to data with no attempt to model the actual physical system is known as “mathturbation”.

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2020 • 2:56:51am

In two weeks we start hurricane season, one predicted to be very active. Everyone in this part of the country and south of us needs to figure out how to evacuate and shelter during a plague. Best plan: if you want to avoid sheltering in our rec center with a few hundred new friends, get the hell out of Dodge early.

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2020 • 3:12:58am

re: #43 Dread Pirate

moron

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This makes absolutely no sense and is actually the exact contradiction of the entire program from the beginning. We farmed out parts production to the very companies we’re selling these fighters to. If we pull that production, they’re going to cancel their orders and possibly even look elsewhere for their next-gen fighters.

The knock-on effect of both (reduced orders and domestic production of parts) is going to drive up the cost of the program and force us to either buy fewer fighters or engineer reductions in the platform’s performance by substituting less-capable but otherwise cheaper components into the final product.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2020 • 4:09:06am

re: #26 Joe Bacon 🌹

Q said that Comey was arrested on Sunday.

He wasn’t

Q said that John Brennan was arrested on Monday.

He wasn’t.

Q said that Lisa Page was arrested on Tuesday.

She wasn’t

Q said that Peter Strzok was arrested on Wednesday.

He wasn’t.

Q said that Hillary and Bill would be arrested today.

They weren’t.

Yet assholes still believe the Q shit no matter what…

They believe all this happened and the people we see as them now are doubles.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 4:48:24am

re: #53 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They believe all this happened and the people we see as them now are doubles.

Those who possess a Higher Truth have no use for mere facts…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2020 • 4:58:42am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those who possess a Higher Truth have no use for mere facts…

The fact that there are so many people who look at this absolute nonsense and say “this make perfect sense to me” really bodes poorly for the survival of humanity.

I don’t believe in religion or supernatural, well anything, anything but I swear the Earth is trying to purge us from it. It’s like the Earth is the Matrix and we are the virus; it gave us a warning (climate change) and 30 years to change and we said Fuck You. So now there’s intensified hurricanes & droughts, etc. Which wasn’t enough so bring on the plague.

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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 5:00:47am

re: #55 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The Matrix - “Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 5:03:09am

re: #55 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

We had a warning as early as 1973 to get weaned off oil for purely economic reasons and we dragged our feet on that for decades…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2020 • 5:13:31am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2020 • 5:13:33am

Who was asking about chicken pox yesterday?

He also tested positive for a number of illnesses, including chicken pox, which he had both been infected with and vaccinated against, celiac disease, which he had never had, according to his mother, and pancreatitis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2020 • 5:15:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2020 • 5:17:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 5:18:57am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

An incredibly unusual editorial by The Lancet, one of the world’s most prestigious medical journals: “Americans must put a president in the White House come January, 2021, who will understand that public health should not be guided by partisan politics…”

Deep Medicine. Only Physicians I trust are Dr. Brix, Rand Paul and Ben Carson!!!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2020 • 5:20:17am
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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 5:28:41am

re: #40 Jack Burton

BernieBros still think Snowden is a “whistleblower” and a “hero”…
I’m guessing Flynn will be too.

Funny how they always seem to agree with Russian bullshit.

It’s a stretch going from they support Snowden to they support Flynn because Russia. They think Snowden exposed something dark about America (I don’t completely agree and I completely disagree with his way of doing it, giving secrets to Russia and China). Flynn is different.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 15, 2020 • 5:30:09am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

zero-sum Donald

Australia is one of our main allies in a region where China is highly dominant…

But China offered Jared and Ivanka a real sweetheart contract to do those parts…
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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 5:31:30am

re: #63 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Version #725272: This report supersedes any earlier reports of this event. This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.

A strong earthquake occurred at 4:03:27 AM (PDT) on Friday, May 15, 2020.
The magnitude 6.5 event occurred 57 km (36 miles) W of Tonopah, NV.
The hypocentral depth is 3 km ( 2 miles).

scedc.caltech.edu

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 5:32:58am

re: #64 Belafon

It’s a stretch going from they support Snowden to they support Flynn because Russia. They think Snowden exposed something dark about America (I don’t completely agree and I completely disagree with his way of doing it, giving secrets to Russia and China). Flynn is different.

Comparing Snowden to Woodward and Bernstein is quite a stretch. They were responsible journalists who were careful that the information they released was related only to illegal actions on the part of the government.

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wrenchwench  May 15, 2020 • 5:36:01am

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

scedc.caltech.edu

Version #725272: This report supersedes any earlier reports of this event. This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.

I wonder which version was the first to get the attentions of an actual seismologist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 5:36:07am

re: #65 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

But China offered Jared and Ivanka a real sweetheart contract to do those parts…
////

There is a Netflix series that I stumbled across last year, Pine Gap, a spy thriller about the satellite surveillance center near Alice Springs, and a major theme in the series is the very basis & nature of the US-Australian alliance.

After all, Australia is highly economically dependent on China, and there are more people in Shanghai alone than in all Australia…

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2020 • 5:37:13am

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

We’ve been here before: Media digs through every dumpster they can to find some “justification” for the death of a black person, then weeks/months later we’ll find out that the shooter(s) were “no angels” but by that point the damage has been done. Worse, by the time the media spares a second to look into the shooter and their own past, they face criticism for “harassment.”

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Barefoot Grin  May 15, 2020 • 5:41:08am

The big BernieBro talking point this morning is that Democrats cowardly gave up on student loan forgiveness in the next phase of stimulus and therefore none of them are going to vote for Dems. I don’t know the details of the rollback, but going forward if they think they’ll get a better deal from the GOP then they were never serious to begin with.

[bad grammar, but I’m too tired to fix it]

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Targetpractice  May 15, 2020 • 5:42:43am

re: #71 Barefoot Grin

The big BernieBro talking point this morning is that Democrats cowardly gave up on student loan forgiveness in the next phase of stimulus and therefore none of them are going to vote for Dems. I don’t know the details of the rollback, but going forward if they think they’ll get a better deal from the GOP then they were never serious to begin with.

Nah, now begins the cries of “I’M VOTING THIRD PARTY/STAYING HOME!!!”, which is supposed to inspire fear in us…somehow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 15, 2020 • 5:44:00am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 15, 2020 • 6:02:44am

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jeffreyw  May 15, 2020 • 6:09:49am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 6:12:06am

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of the Irish names for the fox-glove is ‘Méirín púca’ which roughly translates as the ‘goblin’s fingers

Our pet guinea pig, Norman, nearly died after eating some of that in the garden.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 6:12:59am

re: #72 Targetpractice

Nah, now begins the cries of “I’M VOTING THIRD PARTY/STAYING HOME!!!”, which is supposed to inspire fear in us…somehow.

That is what ratfucking is all about. Trying to convince us that ideological purity is something to be preserved at all costs.

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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 6:18:00am

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

It seems the writer of the original article has a history of that kind of crap. And I guess her employer is ok with it.

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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 6:20:53am

re: #71 Barefoot Grin

The big BernieBro talking point this morning is that Democrats cowardly gave up on student loan forgiveness in the next phase of stimulus and therefore none of them are going to vote for Dems. I don’t know the details of the rollback, but going forward if they think they’ll get a better deal from the GOP then they were never serious to begin with.

[bad grammar, but I’m too tired to fix it]

If they can’t support the person Bernie supports then they’re just Russian plants. And I’ll tell them that straight to their faces.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 6:23:39am

re: #79 Belafon

If they can’t support the person Bernie supports then they’re just Russian plants. And I’ll tell them that straight to their faces.

This is where all the bots start to show their true circuitry.

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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 6:24:51am
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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 6:28:11am
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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 6:29:43am
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Dave In Austin  May 15, 2020 • 6:35:29am

re: #59 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That was me. We’re pretty sure it’s prolly CP but we’ll wait for the tests to come back. We both were tested for C19 yesterday and Trevor said it is generally a 48hr turnabout for the result. Still Chicken Pox in the middle 50’s with a comprised immune sys. Is concerning. So far so good. Bumpy with a low grade fever.

Please keep us in your thoughts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 6:36:14am

re: #82 Belafon

More than 1 in 4 of the most-watched #COVID19 videos on YouTube in English contains misleading/inaccurate info, reveals the 1st study of its kind, reported in BMJ Global Health. Misinformation is far more pervasive than previous pandemics, experts say

In one of my rare political posts on FB a while back, I reminded people that social media is not the place to seek or disseminate information about the pandemic, there are much better and much more reliable sources.

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Dave In Austin  May 15, 2020 • 6:36:33am

re: #75 jeffreyw

Jeff, do you know what type of sparrow that is?

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Eventual Carrion  May 15, 2020 • 6:40:57am

re: #86 Dave In Austin

Jeff, do you know what type of sparrow that is?

Unladen swallow?

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jeffreyw  May 15, 2020 • 6:45:26am

re: #86 Dave In Austin

That’s a female grosbeak.

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 6:49:00am

re: #55 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I don’t believe in religion or supernatural, well anything, anything but I swear the Earth is trying to purge us from it. It’s like the Earth is the Matrix and we are the virus; it gave us a warning (climate change) and 30 years to change and we said Fuck You. So now there’s intensified hurricanes & droughts, etc. Which wasn’t enough so bring on the plague.

The Earth didn’t give us a warning with climate change.

We made climate change.

We’ve actually known that we could change the climate for about 124 years, and that we were changing the climate for over 30 years now. Nature didn’t warn us, Svante Arrhenius warned us. Hell, even Margaret Thatcher warned us.

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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 6:49:07am

As the old saying goes, big if true…..

A group of hackers claim that they’ve obtained a pile of “dirty laundry” on President Donald Trump and are threatening to release it unless the law firm they stole it from forks over $42 million.

The New York Post reports that hacker group REvil launched a successful attack against celebrity law firm Grubman Shire Meiselas & Sacks in which they swiped 756GB of data from the firm’s servers.

“Mr Trump, if you want to stay president, poke a sharp stick at the guys, otherwise you may forget this ambition forever,” the hackers wrote in a threat posted online. “And to you voters, we can let you know that after such a publication, you certainly don’t want to see him as president… The deadline is one week.”

rawstory.com

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 6:49:15am

re: #20 Belafon

I just got a notice on my phone that time zones are being updated. I wasn’t expecting to have my time zones updated.

Official time zone: Twilight.

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 6:51:39am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We had a warning as early as 1973 to get weaned off oil for purely economic reasons and we dragged our feet on that for decades…

Speak for yourself. France got the same warning and replaced their entire electricity generation system by non fossil (and, it turns out, low carbon) sources.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 15, 2020 • 6:51:45am

re: #90 Dr Lizardo

As the old saying goes, big if true…..

rawstory.com

NY Post is the source for that story. So a shaker of salt is needed.

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 6:53:18am

re: #83 Belafon

I was in Costco yesterday, and here’s my observations. 80-90% were observing proper mask protocols and social distancing. Those that weren’t included those wearing masks only over their mouths, or not adequately social distancing on lines or in the aisles.

Most people here are cognizant of the threats (Bergen County being a hot spot in the nation for cases from the outset).

I did see just a handful of people who went beyond just masks. One family seemed to all wear not only masks, but tyvek suits and face shields.

Saw a handful wear just face shields and masks and gloves.

I was there with my n100; the mrs stayed home, and I used hand sanitizer after loading the car.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 15, 2020 • 6:53:19am

Also heads up Lizards. Someone yesterday said they were looking for one of his coffee scoops.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 15, 2020 • 6:54:04am

re: #87 Eventual Carrion

African or European?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 6:54:31am

re: #92 John Hughes

Speak for yourself. France got the same warning and replaced their entire electricity generation system by non fossil (and, it turns out, low carbon) sources.

They had a practical reason for that: they needed fissile material for their own atomic weapons program, the Force de Frappe

That was of course before Starbucks

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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 6:54:38am

re: #93 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

NY Post is the source for that story. So a shaker of salt is needed.

Of course - but I guess we’ll likely find out soon enough.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 15, 2020 • 6:55:55am

re: #2 gocart mozart

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 6:56:47am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

However, funding to the CDC for a long time has been subject to conservative politics that have increasingly eroded the agency’s ability to mount effective, evidence-based public health responses. In the 1980s, the Reagan administration resisted providing the sufficient budget that the CDC needed to fight the HIV/AIDS crisis. The George W Bush administration put restrictions on global and domestic HIV prevention and reproductive health programming.

It’s not a recent problem. It’s obviously got worse under Trump, but Tories (for that is what they are) have been trying to destroy government competence because they believe in government incompetence for at least 40 years now.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 15, 2020 • 6:58:06am

re: #95 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I’m always always always missing out on his pens. About how much do they even go for?

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The Pie Overlord!  May 15, 2020 • 6:59:47am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 15, 2020 • 7:02:04am

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

Of course - but I guess we’ll likely find out soon enough.

Yep. But I am leaning towards a “flash in the pan” type of story that will get buried.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 15, 2020 • 7:04:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 7:04:22am

re: #103 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Yep. But I am leaning towards a “flash in the pan” type of story that will get buried.

I am waiting for reliable sources to verify.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 15, 2020 • 7:04:25am

re: #101 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m always always always missing out on his pens. About how much do they even go for?

Around $25.00 and up.

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 7:06:38am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is no doubt that the CDC has made mistakes, especially on testing in the early stages of the pandemic. The agency was so convinced that it had contained the virus that it retained control of all diagnostic testing for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2, but this was followed by the admission on Feb 12 that the CDC had developed faulty test kits.

But why were these mistakes made? Why did the CDC insist on developing its own test when the German (WHO) Charité test worked?

Exceptionalism?

(Admittedly CDC were not alone making this error, but at least the French Pasteur test was partly based on the German research, and worked. And in the French case it was clearly exceptionalism. American exceptionalism isn’t even that exceptional. :) )

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 15, 2020 • 7:06:57am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am waiting for reliable sources to verify.

I wouldn’t hold your breath then. :-)

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The Pie Overlord!  May 15, 2020 • 7:07:26am

He’s still shoveling this horse shit, fed to him by Fox hosts.

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 7:08:31am

re: #104 The Pie Overlord!

The Mrs. baked up a batch last night, not realizing that it was.

I love her baking, but here’s a question. I know you’re a fan of the King Arthur flour, but is there that big a difference between that an a store brand? To me, the bigger difference is in the chocolate or vanilla used (we make our own vanilla extract) and use premium chips from Ghirardelli. Same thing for butter - typically store brand except on Passover, when we use Breakstones.

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 7:09:48am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Deep Medicine. Only Physicians I trust are Dr. Brix, Rand Paul and Ben Carson!!!

Don’t be so parochial. You also trust professeur Raoult right? How could you not trust such flowing locks?

(Unable to admit that my own hairstyle is closely approaching his).

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 7:11:15am

re: #63 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

An earthquake with an initial magnitude of 6.4 has hit Nevada, about 225 miles northwest of Las Vegas near the California border,

God has spoken. End the lockdown now before he brings on the plague!

(Surley some mishtake, Ed).

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 7:12:32am

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 7:14:02am

re: #109 The Pie Overlord!

He’s still shoveling this horse shit, fed to him by Fox hosts.

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Of course he is. I’m all for him making Flynn who got fired from DIA for being an asshole an issue in the fall with unprecedented unemployment and deaths. Go for it, Donnie.

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 7:14:43am

re: #40 Jack Burton

BernieBros still think Snowden is a “whistleblower” and a “hero”…

Snowdon was a whistleblower.

Emphasis on the “was”. Now he’s something else. To be a “hero” you have to inspire others, there’s not much that’s inspiring in his story.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 15, 2020 • 7:15:25am

re: #110 lawhawk

The Mrs. baked up a batch last night, not realizing that it was.

I love her baking, but here’s a question. I know you’re a fan of the King Arthur flour, but is there that big a difference between that an a store brand? To me, the bigger difference is in the chocolate or vanilla used (we make our own vanilla extract) and use premium chips from Ghirardelli. Same thing for butter - typically store brand except on Passover, when we use Breakstones.

The primary reason for using KA flour is their bread flour, far superior to any other bread flour you can buy. I bought a 50-lb bag so I won’t run out any time soon.

I also prefer KA all-purpose flour for non-bread baked goods (pie crust, cake, cookies, pancakes etc.) but if you use other premium ingredients it really doesn’t matter what flour you use, the focus is on the other stuff. With bread though, it is the critical ingredient.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 15, 2020 • 7:16:16am

re: #111 John Hughes

(Unable to admit that my own hairstyle is closely approaching his).

Same here, due to our lockdown, which is set to end May 28th.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 7:19:22am

re: #108 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I wouldn’t hold your breath then. :-)

I will thank you not to hold my breath!

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Patricia Kayden  May 15, 2020 • 7:19:50am

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

They do this all the damn time when Black people are victimized. Even when that Black man in Cleveland rescued those women from their kidnapper, the media dug up dirt on him. Sigh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 7:20:05am

re: #113 lawhawk

There’s only the febrile Trump and his corrupt admin spewing propaganda that gets amplified by Fox propagandists lying about everything to deflect attention from 87,000+ dead Americans due to Trump’s covid19 fail

and his tax returns and the failing economy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 7:20:50am

re: #119 Patricia Kayden

They do this all the damn time when Black people are victimized. Even when that Black man in Cleveland rescued those women from their kidnapper, the media dug up dirt on him. Sigh.

Because black heroes are a threat to our White Women…

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Patricia Kayden  May 15, 2020 • 7:21:16am
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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 7:28:46am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They had a practical reason for that: they needed fissile material for their own atomic weapons program, the Force de Frappe

This is of course totally wrong.

1. The post 1973 French nuclear expansion is all PWRs. You don’t use PWRs to make bomb plutonium, they’re all IAEA inspected and anyway the refueling schedules and isotope ratios are all wrong.

2. The Force de Frappe (we’re supposed to call it Force de dissuasion to be all touchy feely) predates the Plan Messmer by decades.

3. France, like the UK, made it’s bomb plutonium in the pre-1973 gas cooled reactors (Magnox for the UK, UNGG in France).

No, the whole reason for the Messmer plan was the 1973 oil crisis. France, unlike Germany or the UK had no remaining coal, electricity was all being generated from imported oil.

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 7:31:10am

re: #97 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They had a practical reason for that: they needed fissile material for their own atomic weapons program, the Force de Frappe

That was of course before Starbucks

See where lack of accents gets you into error.

Starbucks sells Frappé, the force de Frappe hits you.

Frappé — has been hit.
Frappe — to hit.

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2020 • 7:33:20am

re: #124 John Hughes

See where lack of accents gets you into error.

Starbucks sells Frappé, the force de Frappe hits you.

Frappé — has been hit.
Frappe — to hit.

On a trip to the Boston area in the late ’50s, I found out a frappe’ there was just a milkshake. Their bowling uses strange skinny pins, too.

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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 7:33:42am

re: #122 Patricia Kayden

It’s technical in the same sense that I could technically marry Halle Berry.

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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 7:34:42am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

On a trip to the Boston area in the late ’50s, I found out a frappe’ there was just a milkshake. Their bowling uses strange skinny pins, too.

A couple of us from the midwest went to school in Worcester and found out that what they called a milkshake was not what we called it.

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DodgerFan1988  May 15, 2020 • 7:34:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 7:38:46am

re: #128 DodgerFan1988

That is weapons-grade stupid. And it has already demonstrated the force of the first two atomic weapons combined…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 7:40:42am

re: #123 John Hughes

This is of course totally wrong.

1. The post 1973 French nuclear expansion is all PWRs. You don’t use PWRs to make bomb plutonium, they’re all IAEA inspected and anyway the refueling schedules and isotope ratios are all wrong.

2. The Force de Frappe (we’re supposed to call it Force de dissuasion to be all touchy feely) predates the Plan Messmer by decades.

Force de persuasion?

Thanks for sorting me out on that. I had assumed the two to be related.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 15, 2020 • 7:41:08am

just posted over on the right

The November 3, 2020 presidential election will take place on time

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 7:41:20am

re: #122 Patricia Kayden

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Second primary in a row where bros like Nathan have tried to subvert the will of Democratic voters. They may be socialists but democratic they ain’t.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 15, 2020 • 7:42:09am

and now off to give blood

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 7:42:10am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

On a trip to the Boston area in the late ’50s, I found out a frappe’ there was just a milkshake. Their bowling uses strange skinny pins, too.

Friendly’s called their shakes frappes.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 15, 2020 • 7:44:01am

re: #75 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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jaunte  May 15, 2020 • 7:46:40am

(They’re all thieves, Jake)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 7:47:08am

re: #131 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

just posted over on the right

The November 3, 2020 presidential election will take place on time

Remember, if the elections are suspended or postponed, Trump’s term in office still ends in January 2021, as does Mike Pence’s…if there is no elected candidate, then the Rules of Succession apply, at which point the Speaker of the House assumes the Presidency.

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jaunte  May 15, 2020 • 7:47:41am
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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 7:48:07am

re: #131 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

just posted over on the right

The November 3, 2020 presidential election will take place on time

If Trump wants to stay in office as POTUS - he’s just gonna have to win. It’s as simple as that. And if he can’t pull off a victory this November….then he’s gone and a new President takes his place.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2020 • 7:49:56am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 7:50:20am

re: #139 Dr Lizardo

If Trump wants to stay in office as POTUS - he’s just gonna have to win. It’s as simple as that. And if he can’t pull off a victory this November….then he’s gone and a new President takes his place.

It really is. And it’s a referendum on him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 7:50:38am

re: #139 Dr Lizardo

If Trump wants to stay in office as POTUS - he’s just gonna have to win. It’s as simple as that. And if he can’t pull off a victory this November….then he’s gone and a new President takes his place.

If he does not turn things around somehow, then the best strategy for the GOP would be to turn the whole election into an enormous clusterfuck in which the results are so full of irregularities that they are unverifiable and easily contested, at which they can just claim victory, plant their feet and refuse to give up the office.

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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 7:53:09am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If he does not turn things around somehow, then the best strategy for the GOP would be to turn the whole election into an enormous clusterfuck in which the results are so full of irregularities that they are unverifiable and easily contested, at which they can just claim victory, plant their feet and refuse to give up the office.

And that’s when Civil War 2.0 starts - because that’s when the bullets are gonna start flying.

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 7:53:24am

re: #136 jaunte

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Rightwingconspirator  May 15, 2020 • 7:57:25am

Well since I’m back to work at least part time, doing a little housekeeping in my FB timeline. Posts and comments are closed to all but me. But if you are one of the good people, and have a link that’s worthy, DM me.

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Eventual Carrion  May 15, 2020 • 7:59:24am

re: #96 GlutenFreeJesus

African or European?

* pulls catapult lever *

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BigPapa  May 15, 2020 • 8:00:57am

re: #145 Rightwingconspirator

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2020 • 8:01:57am

(Via Business Insider) - Talking loudly produces enough droplets to transmit the coronavirus to others, a new study confirms.

Given that one milliliter of oral fluid contains approximately 7 million copies of the coronavirus (according to previous research), the authors of the new study determined that speaking loudly for just one minute can emit more than 1,000 virus-containing droplets. Their work, published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, also shows that those droplets can then remain in the air for eight minutes or longer.

Well, this doesn’t bode well for the wingnuts….

/

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 8:05:13am

re: #117 Eric The Fruit Bat

Same here, due to our lockdown, which is set to end May 28th.

Mine has already “ended”. But no way am I out to get a haircut straight away. Hell, there’s even a pretty damn good chance that I’ve already had COVID-19 (my wife tested positive about a month ago and no 1950’s American sitcom style sleeping in separate beds here) but I’m still taking all precautions.

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jaunte  May 15, 2020 • 8:07:50am

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

Puts a new spin on “Chopper Talk.”

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 8:11:27am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Thanks for sorting me out on that. I had assumed the two to be related.

Falling for the “fake green” argument that nuclear power and nuclear weapons are the same thing. Somewhat caused by the strange fact that the Department of Energy in the US is actually in charge of making and maintaining nuclear weapons, which recent heads of the department didn’t even know.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 15, 2020 • 8:13:37am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, if the elections are suspended or postponed, Trump’s term in office still ends in January 2021, as does Mike Pence’s…if there is no elected candidate, then the Rules of Succession apply, at which point the Speaker of the House assumes the Presidency.

The Speaker’s term also ends in January 2021.

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Teukka  May 15, 2020 • 8:13:52am

re: #44 teleskiguy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 15, 2020 • 8:15:26am

re: #51 Decatur Deb

In two weeks we start hurricane season, one predicted to be very active. Everyone in this part of the country and south of us needs to figure out how to evacuate and shelter during a plague. Best plan: if you want to avoid sheltering in our rec center with a few hundred new friends, get the hell out of Dodge early.

Deb I tried to warn my relatives in South Carolina about that because I know how hurricanes just love to hit Myrtle Beach…but they still reply with “our deep Christian Faith will protect us BS”…the same crap they use to justify going about their normal lives…only those who forsake Jesus stay at home…

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 8:15:32am

re: #151 John Hughes

Falling for the “fake green” argument that nuclear power and nuclear weapons are the same thing. Somewhat caused by the strange fact that the Department of Energy in the US is actually in charge of making and maintaining nuclear weapons, which recent heads of the department didn’t even know.

Rick Fucking Perry and other GOPers - let’s get rid of the Energy Dept (if I can remember what federal department I want to eliminate, that is).

Rick Fucking Perry and other GOPers - I had no fucking clue that the Energy Department is responsible for the US nuclear weapons stockpile, production of new weapons, disposal of nuclear weapons waste, etc.

These know nothing extremists are a mortal danger to everyone in the nation for their weapons grade derp.

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 8:17:36am

re: #152 The Pie Overlord!

Since the House is going to remain in Democrats hands in the fall, it’s likely that during the lame duck session the House could have a plan put in place to deal with that scenario - to guarantee that the Speaker is nominated and installed concurrent with the presidential transition.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2020 • 8:18:02am

re: #149 John Hughes

Mine has already “ended”. But no way am I out to get a haircut straight away. Hell, there’s even a pretty damn good chance that I’ve already had COVID-19 (my wife tested positive about a month ago and no 1950’s American sitcom style sleeping in separate beds here) but I’m still taking all precautions.

I can’t wait for there to be antibody testing. I’ve been sick since January - but with only some of the lesser COVID19 symptoms and not others. But this was one of those “never sick like this before” things that has lingered for months.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 8:19:54am

re: #156 lawhawk

Since the House is going to remain in Democrats hands in the fall, it’s likely that during the lame duck session the House could have a plan put in place to deal with that scenario - to guarantee that the Speaker is nominated and installed concurrent with the presidential transition.

I hate to sound like a broken record but there really isn’t one election this fall. My ballot is going to look different than yours and VB’s. I’m not worried about the election itself. I’m more worried about Trump and Trump allies doing all they can to treat Trump as a President in Exile and to obstruct everything Biden does.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 15, 2020 • 8:23:24am

re: #158 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I hate to sound like a broken record but there really isn’t one election this fall. My ballot is going to look different than yours and VB’s. I’m not worried about the election itself. I’m more worried about Trump and Trump allies doing all they can to treat Trump as a President in Exile and to obstruct everything Biden does.

Trump can’t run a government while he is IN OFFICE how tf do you think he can run something IN EXILE. He will get his own show on Fox or probably OAN and scream batshit stuff (also on Twitter) but once he’s kicked out of the WH he can’t DO ANYTHING.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 15, 2020 • 8:23:33am

re: #147 BigPapa

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 8:24:41am

re: #159 The Pie Overlord!

Trump can’t run a government while he is IN OFFICE how tf do you think he can run something IN EXILE. He will get his own show on Fox or probably OAN and scream batshit stuff (also on Twitter) but once he’s kicked out of the WH he can’t DO ANYTHING.

That’s what I mean. They’re going to treat him as “Real America’s President” because Biden naturally will be carried to a victory by urban areas which duh because America is more urban than rural.

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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 8:25:38am

re: #158 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m not worried about the election itself. I’m more worried about Trump and Trump allies doing all they can to treat Trump as a President in Exile and to obstruct everything Biden does.

That I can see happening, unfortunately.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 15, 2020 • 8:26:49am

re: #157 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I can’t wait for there to be antibody testing. I’ve been sick since January - but with only some of the lesser COVID19 symptoms and not others. But this was one of those “never sick like this before” things that has lingered for months.

I’ve had all my usual “mild allergy to spring” symptoms, which overlap with covid-19 symptoms, but this season, I’ve noticed them more.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 8:27:01am

re: #162 Dr Lizardo

That I can see happening, unfortunately.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he talks himself up running again in 2024.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 15, 2020 • 8:27:40am

WTFITS

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 8:27:52am

hi.

I couldn’t tell if I won the Lotto: the system is down at the General Store (state problem).

I WON THE INSURANCE LOTTO! Received a cheque in the mail for $2,993.03 in the mail today, for the roof replacement last month.

I WON THE BANK LOTTO! Received a letter in the mail from my bank saying I left $1.50 in the drive-through tray; rather than have me come pick it up they deposited in my checking account.

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Jay C  May 15, 2020 • 8:27:59am

re: #152 The Pie Overlord!

The Speaker’s term also ends in January 2021.

Not precisely.

The next session of Congress is scheduled to begin on Monday, January 4 (I think). Its membership will be determined by the results of the November elections: and (IIRC) election of a Speaker is normally the first order of business at every new session.

So regardless of what happens with the Presidency, there will be a Speaker in place for the interim between the opening of the 117th Congress and Inauguration Day.

We hope.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  May 15, 2020 • 8:28:41am

re: #161 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

That’s what I mean. They’re going to treat him as “Real America’s President” because Biden naturally will be carried to a victory by urban areas which duh because America is more urban than rural.

I remind all of you that you were saying the same things about the midterms. In excruciating detail. For months. And here we are.

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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 8:29:12am

re: #164 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I wouldn’t be surprised if he talks himself up running again in 2024.

Yeesh. That’d be horrible. With any luck, he’ll be in a NY state prison by then.

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aatharuv  May 15, 2020 • 8:30:11am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, if the elections are suspended or postponed, Trump’s term in office still ends in January 2021, as does Mike Pence’s…if there is no elected candidate, then the Rules of Succession apply, at which point the Speaker of the House assumes the Presidency.

If there are no elections, there also would be no House of Representatives, which means it would devolve to the Senate, which by virtue of there being no elections would be a Democratic majority due to all the Republicans leaving office. Which until early January 2021 would be Chuck Grassley. After that… who knows, Chuck Schumer?

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 8:31:14am
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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 8:32:58am

re: #170 aatharuv

If there are no elections, there also would be no House of Representatives, which means it would devolve to the Senate, which by virtue of there being no elections would be a Democratic majority due to all the Republicans leaving office. Which until early January 2021 would be Chuck Grassley. After that… who knows, Chuck Schumer?

Elections are handled by the states, not the federal govt, and that would require the GOP to ignore the state requirements to hold these elections too.

Because governors are up for reelection, local offices need to be filled, etc. These elections will happen.

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gocart mozart  May 15, 2020 • 8:34:38am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 8:35:39am

re: #168 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I remind all of you that you were saying the same things about the midterms. In excruciating detail. For months. And here we are.

I was actually optimistic about the midterms and I’m optimistic on this fall. What I’m talking about is how right wing media will treat a Biden presidency. That’s all I’m saying.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 8:36:51am

re: #173 gocart mozart

Need to get Agent K and J on Jared.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 8:37:46am

re: #91 lawhawk

Official time zone: Twilight.

Everyone is being ported to Mythical Time Zone (mine).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 8:39:07am

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Everyone is being ported to Mythical Time Zone (mine).

you do have your own time zone as far as I can tell, closer to CET than MST

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 15, 2020 • 8:40:47am

re: #84 Dave In Austin

That was me. We’re pretty sure it’s prolly CP but we’ll wait for the tests to come back. We both were tested for C19 yesterday and Trevor said it is generally a 48hr turnabout for the result. Still Chicken Pox in the middle 50’s with a comprised immune sys. Is concerning. So far so good. Bumpy with a low grade fever.

Please keep us in your thoughts.

OWTCH, Dave!

I’ve had a shingles outbreak going on since Sunday. It’s milder than previous ones thanks to the vaccine shots. Dr Zoomed with me and ordered RX. Glad Kaiser here in Los Angeles will deliver RX to your door. Clobex spray and the pills are helping damp it down. Glad I’m able to telework from home instead of taking a sick day…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2020 • 8:42:49am

re: #163 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I’ve had all my usual “mild allergy to spring” symptoms, which overlap with covid-19 symptoms, but this season, I’ve noticed them more.

It’s so bad having allergies now. I was standing in line last week to get booze (where there are longer lines than the grocery store… Always) and I had to cough. Badly. I asked the guy behind me to save my place (Canadians being the kindest people, of course he did) so I could go to my car, cough my brains out, blow my nose and get back in line.

I’m afraid if I start coughing in public I’ll get killed or something. Kindness only goes so far.

While I’m at it, two old guys discussing masks while standing in line (wearing mine) saying wearing them doesn’t make any sense - but he does have a mask for when he’s in his car. And I’m thinking, my dudes, you’re doing it all wrong.

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Jay C  May 15, 2020 • 8:43:12am

re: #174 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Haven’t had any Covid symptoms here fortunately.

I was actually optimistic about the midterms and I’m optimistic on this fall. What I’m talking about is how right wing media will treat a Biden presidency. That’s all I’m saying.

Oh, we KNOW how the RW media will be treating a President Biden and his Administration: the bigger issue is how the “mainstream” media will be covering it.
And that, in my humble opinion, should be the cause for serious pessimism indeed.
Which is why I think the 2022 elections are going to be (nearly) as vital as 2020….

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Hecuba's daughter  May 15, 2020 • 8:43:22am

re: #53 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They believe all this happened and the people we see as them now are doubles.

My CT brother has been telling us for the last couple years that Obama, Comey, Hillary, etc were going to be arrested. And every time my sister challenged him with his failed predictions, he just asserted that this time it’s happening. He believes in all the CTs (except Pizzagate) but not this body double or clone nonsense; he probably never have heard of them because some of these stories have never been circulated on the more “rational” Trumpster sites.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 8:44:49am

re: #180 Jay C

Oh, we KNOW how the RW media will be treating a President Biden and his Administration: the bigger issue is how the “mainstream” media will be covering it.
And that, in my humble opinion, should be the cause for serious pessimism indeed.
Which is why I think the 2022 elections are going to be (nearly) as vital as 2020….

2020 is just the first step. One good thing about being here in Virginia is we have elections that send people to Richmond and Washington every year. And we’ve had a lot of tight races too so I take nothing for granted. But yeah 2022 is going to be extremely important. And I hope to God that younger voters learn this. I do not want 2010 and 2014 redux.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 8:45:15am

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

My CT brother has been telling us for the last couple years that Obama, Comey, Hillary, etc were going to be arrested. And every time my sister challenged him with his failed predictions, he just asserted that this time it’s happening. He believes in all the CTs (except Pizzagate) but not this body double or clone nonsense; he probably never have heard of them because some of these stories have never been circulated on the more “rational” Trumpster sites.

I swear conspiracy theories are making us all so collectively stupid.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 8:45:34am

Epidemic conversation with our general store proprietor.

When I went in, amongst other things I picked up four packages of ramen noodles (everything on the shelf). Most shelves were very low stocked. There was also only two loaves of bread and one carton of milk.

I asked if he was getting stripped by out-of-towners again, even though his store is “officially closed.” He said no, he has plenty of stock in the back. The reason for low quantities of everything on the shelf is to help keep people from handling everything and spreading the virus through his wares.

When someone buys something, he goes in the back and replaces it. He offered me more ramen noodles, I told him I was fine, that’s all I wanted anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 8:48:55am

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

My CT brother has been telling us for the last couple years that Obama, Comey, Hillary, etc were going to be arrested. And every time my sister challenged him with his failed predictions, he just asserted that this time it’s happening. He believes in all the CTs (except Pizzagate) but not this body double or clone nonsense; he probably never have heard of them because some of these stories have never been circulated on the more “rational” Trumpster sites.

On the failed predictions, if you don’t want to call your brother a crackpot, just respond with this clip of every animal Bullwinkle pulls out of his hat. (1:45)

“But that trick never works!” “This time FOR SURE!”

Hey Rocky! Watch Bullwinkle Pull A Rabbit Out Of His Hat!

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stpaulbear  May 15, 2020 • 8:53:17am

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Epidemic conversation with our general store proprietor.

When I went in, amongst other things I picked up four packages of ramen noodles (everything on the shelf). Most shelves were very low stocked. There was also only two loaves of bread and one carton of milk.

I asked if he was getting stripped by out-of-towners again, even though his store is “officially closed.” He said no, he has plenty of stock in the back. The reason for low quantities of everything on the shelf is to help keep people from handling everything and spreading the virus through his wares.

When someone buys something, he goes in the back and replaces it. He offered me more ramen noodles, I told him I was fine, that’s all I wanted anyway.

That’s one of the things that I’m trying to be very careful about. I only touch what I buy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 8:57:04am

re: #136 jaunte

(They’re all thieves, Jake)

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Jay C  May 15, 2020 • 8:57:24am

re: #182 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

2020 is just the first step. One good thing about being here in Virginia is we have elections that send people to Richmond and Washington every year. And we’ve had a lot of tight races too so I take nothing for granted. But yeah 2022 is going to be extremely important. And I hope to God that younger voters learn this. I do not want 2010 and 2014 redux.

What we need is 1934 redux.

And I hope that national Democrats (from the top down) obsess on this point from the first day of the (God willing) Biden Administration.

Because the big difference between then and now? FDR, policy and political opposition aside, didn’t have to deal with about a third of the entire country utterly convinced that being a (D) meant that his Administration had no legitimacy whatsoever, and an angry, all-pervasive media devoted to pushing that viewpoint on the public.
I mean, Roosevelt did have that: but in the 1930’s, it was pretty much a crank fringe: today, we call it Fox Nation…..

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I am that guy  May 15, 2020 • 8:59:24am

Not sure if anyone posted this. It’s his wifes’ mother. Horrible story, but they found her.

After his mother-in-law was infected with the coronavirus, the guitarist for Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band, Nils Lofgren became determined to make nursing homes accountable.

Here is Amy Aiello his wife’s twitter page. The story is in there.

twitter.com

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John Hughes  May 15, 2020 • 9:00:46am

re: #186 stpaulbear

That’s one of the things that I’m trying to be very careful about. I only touch what I buy

I got into an argument with a couple of people in my local LIDL about that. As madame was sampling all the air fresheners monsieur took every single packet of antiseptic wipes off the shelf, examined them one by one and put them back. I applauded, they looked at me and asked why, I replied “thanks for your contamination”, quick as a flash they came back with “we’re wearing masks, you’re not”, my response: “Monsieur is wearing a N95, reserved for health professionals in hazardous contact, my wife is currently recovering from a case of COVID-19 caught while working in a old age care home with no PPE. Wanna tell me where you got the mask?”.

End of conversation.

Oh well, off to LIDL again. Where did it put that mask that the Mairie gave me?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 9:00:53am

re: #188 Jay C

What we need is 1934 redux.

And I hope that national Democrats (from the top down) obsess on this point from the first day of the (God willing) Biden Administration.

Because the big difference between then and now? FDR, policy and political opposition aside, didn’t have to deal with about a third of the entire country utterly convinced that being a (D) meant that his Administration had no legitimacy whatsoever, and an angry, all-pervasive media devoted to pushing that viewpoint on the public.
I mean, Roosevelt did have that: but in the 1930’s, it was pretty much a crank fringe: today, we call it Fox Nation…..

Absolutely. We need to get it into our base voters heads that the mditerms are as important as the presidential election years. Having Mitch as Majority Leader over Schumer now matters a great deal. My hope is McGrath takes out McConnell in Kentucky. I haven’t seen any polls there lately. I think it’s possible she beats him since Mitch is more vulnerable now than he has been in the past.

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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 9:09:56am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, if the elections are suspended or postponed, Trump’s term in office still ends in January 2021, as does Mike Pence’s…if there is no elected candidate, then the Rules of Succession apply, at which point the Speaker of the House assumes the Presidency.

Though, as someone points out, if there are no elections, there will be no speaker, and therefore it will fall to the most senior senator.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2020 • 9:10:11am

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

… the more “rational” Trumpster sites.

😁😂🤣😭 Rational. 😁😂🤣😭

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2020 • 9:10:53am

re: #183 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I swear conspiracy theories are making us all so collectively stupid.

No shit. Just knowing them makes us dumber.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2020 • 9:11:17am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Germany passes law banning ‘gay conversion therapy’ for minors (BBC, May 8)

I am really surprised it took them so long to do this.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 9:11:37am

re: #191 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

-12 (All)
Dem -64
Rep +39
Ind -22

Most recent scoring they have is for the fourth quarter of 2019.

morningconsult.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2020 • 9:15:18am

re: #183 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I swear conspiracy theories are making us all so collectively stupid.

They are not making me stupid but they are stressing me out because I am having to expend considerable time and energy dealing with my friends and family who have been taken in by this crap and insist on bombarding me with it.

Of course, I tell them politely I’m not interested and don’t believe in the claims which of course sets off another testy back and forth about WHY I don’t believe the claims and why I am being such a fucking sheep, etc, etc.

I’d love to cut ties with all of them and just be done with it but for various reasons (not least of all because I do genuinely care for some of them) I can’t do that.

I’ve tried politely telling some of them “Hey, let’s not talk politics/virus stuff, okay?” but that doesn’t always work.

Conspiracy theory collateral damage. It sucks.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 9:15:22am

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

I am really surprised it took them so long to do this.

The bill was entered in November. The Christian Democrat Party wanted only a “limited” solution, hence the current bill just passed.

The bill does not protect people 18-26. The health minister said he wanted a bill which would stand up to court challenges, hence the weak bill.

nytimes.com

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  May 15, 2020 • 9:20:32am

What, WHAT?

(can I put that WHAT? into 72-point type?)

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Hecuba's daughter  May 15, 2020 • 9:22:49am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

They are not making me stupid but they are stressing me out because I am having to expend considerable time and energy dealing with my friends and family who have been taken in by this crap and insist on bombarding with me it.

Of course, I tell them politely I’m not interested and don’t believe in the claims which of course sets off another testy back and forth about WHY I don’t believe the claims and why I am being such a fucking sheep, etc, etc.

I’d love to cut ties with all of them and just be done with it but for various reasons (not least of all because I do genuinely care for some of them) I can’t do that.

….

I just raise my voice to shout him down and tell my brother that I don’t believe any of those lying Republican sources.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 9:23:17am

re: #190 John Hughes

I got into an argument with a couple of people in my local LIDL about that. As madame was sampling all the air fresheners monsieur took every single packet of antiseptic wipes off the shelf, examined them one by one and put them back. I applauded, they looked at me and asked why, I replied “thanks for your contamination”, quick as a flash they came back with “we’re wearing masks, you’re not”, my response: “Monsieur is wearing a N95, reserved for health professionals in hazardous contact, my wife is currently recovering from a case of COVID-19 caught while working in a old age care home with no PPE. Wanna tell me where you got the mask?”.

End of conversation.

Oh well, off to LIDL again. Where did it put that mask that the Mairie gave me?

How does a mask prevent you from spreading a virus with your hands? Gaaa.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 9:23:44am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Germany passes law banning ‘gay conversion therapy’ for minors (BBC, May 8)

They also passed a law banning flag burning. I’m not so down with that one regardless of the reasoning behind it.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  May 15, 2020 • 9:23:48am

I mean, seriously? I worked with the guys who had to deal with human trafficking victims. Some of the most damaged, exploited people on earth.

And the response of ICE was to coerce these poor girls into giving them handies, then arresting THE GIRLS, stealing their meagre savings, throwing them in jail, & not prosecuting the gangs exploiting them?

Who was in charge of this? Stephen Miller? Don Jr.?

Agents with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in Arizona have been “fighting” human trafficking by sending federal immigration agents to coerce suspected victims into paid sex acts. These acts were later used by authorities to justify arresting women who agreed to them, seizing their assets, and telling the press it was these women who were the real predators.

Federal agents had at least 17 sexual encounters with “Asian females” working in massage parlors around Mohave County, Arizona, over a five-month period in 2018, according to new research from the Howard Center for Investigative Journalism at Arizona State University (ASU). Internal ICE documents show these activities had the blessing of agents’ supervisors.

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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 9:24:50am

re: #200 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

What, WHAT?

(can I put that WHAT? into 72-point type?)

We might not be able to break up ICE and CBP, but we can restart with zero members.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 9:25:23am

re: #193 Belafon

Though, as someone points out, if there are no elections, there will be no speaker, and therefore it will fall to the most senior senator.

That would currently be Democrat Patrick Leahy of Vermont.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 15, 2020 • 9:28:27am

re: #116 The Pie Overlord!

The primary reason for using KA flour is their bread flour, far superior to any other bread flour you can buy. I bought a 50-lb bag so I won’t run out any time soon.

I also prefer KA all-purpose flour for non-bread baked goods (pie crust, cake, cookies, pancakes etc.) but if you use other premium ingredients it really doesn’t matter what flour you use, the focus is on the other stuff. With bread though, it is the critical ingredient.

It’s the best flour I’ve ever used. I also like their whole wheat flour!

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teleskiguy  May 15, 2020 • 9:30:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 15, 2020 • 9:35:30am

re: #208 teleskiguy

“performance art”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2020 • 9:39:33am

re: #200 Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)

What, WHAT?

(can I put that WHAT? into 72-point type?)

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And they had the balls to call it “Operation Asian Touch”???

Fucking hell.

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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 9:41:41am

re: #205 Belafon

We might not be able to break up ICE and CBP, but we can restart with zero members.

Dissolve them as agencies.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 15, 2020 • 9:42:33am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

Dissolve them as agencies.

Have to vote Republicans out first.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  May 15, 2020 • 9:44:00am

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

They are not making me stupid but they are stressing me out because I am having to expend considerable time and energy dealing with my friends and family who have been taken in by this crap and insist on bombarding me with it.

Of course, I tell them politely I’m not interested and don’t believe in the claims which of course sets off another testy back and forth about WHY I don’t believe the claims and why I am being such a fucking sheep, etc, etc.

I’d love to cut ties with all of them and just be done with it but for various reasons (not least of all because I do genuinely care for some of them) I can’t do that.

I’ve tried politely telling some of them “Hey, let’s not talk politics/virus stuff, okay?” but that doesn’t always work.

Conspiracy theory collateral damage. It sucks.

What gets me is the same people crying about having to wear masks in stores think those same stores should be able to discriminate against people who are LGBT. The conspiracy theories though. I just see how societies where conspiracy theories slip into the mainstream going on bad paths. The road to Nazi Germany was filled with conspriacy theory bullshit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 9:44:16am

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

Have to vote Republicans out first.

Then listen to the whinge of every conservative voter from the Pacific to the Atlantic on “why do liberals want open borders?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 9:45:53am

re: #213 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

What gets me is the same people crying about having to wear masks in stores think those same stores should be able to discriminate against people who are LGBT. The conspiracy theories though. I just see how societies where conspiracy theories slip into the mainstream going on bad paths. The road to Nazi Germany was filled with conspriacy theory bullshit.

No Biblical justification for masks, plenty for discriminating against Teh Geyh.

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Dr Lizardo  May 15, 2020 • 9:46:22am

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

Have to vote Republicans out first.

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Then listen to the whinge of every conservative voter from the Pacific to the Atlantic on “why do liberals want open borders?”

Of course, we’ll need to take over Congress and the White House first. As for the conservatives, we just answer, “Because fuck you, that’s why”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 9:51:56am

re: #210 Eclectic Cyborg

And they had the balls to call it “Operation Asian Touch”???

Fucking hell.

Conservatives in that thread are already saying “liberals want open borders” or cheering on what ICE did to deport “illegal immigrants.”

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jaunte  May 15, 2020 • 9:52:46am

One guess.

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Mike Lamb  May 15, 2020 • 9:54:34am

re: #165 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

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Well, let’s see what happens when more people die, Trump is beating the drum of “get back to work”, UE benefits dry up, with the GOP, led by Trump, shooting down all Dem efforts to get financial assistance to needy demographics.

The tide is building. Right now, the additional UE benefits are probably keeping a LOT of people afloat. The GOP, of course, can’t get rid of it fast enough. Once that happens? Shit is going to hit the fan.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 9:58:13am

re: #218 jaunte

One guess.

More bullshyte to try to paint liberals as anti-Christian.

Private speech between two military personnel, even proselytisation, is already protected speech in the I Amendment.

In the military such speech is only prohibited like any speech might be: If it undermines morale or the officer corps, government or its officials, or interferes with completion of duties.

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 9:58:14am
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jaunte  May 15, 2020 • 9:58:29am

youtube.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 9:59:01am

Edit #220 to move this part here.
re: #165 The Pie Overlord!

WTFITS

Who the hell is Harry Enten, and does he have his head stuck in a can?

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Jay C  May 15, 2020 • 10:01:05am

re: #222 jaunte

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youtube.com

Needs some giant fish swimming around in it.

But SRSLY cool: video projection(s)?

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Citizen K  May 15, 2020 • 10:03:33am

Damn the science and damn your health, we’re opening up and nothing you can do about it! Freedom! Freedom to get sick and die so we can get haircuts!…wait…my bad, Freedom for YOU to get sick and die so I can get a haircut!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 10:04:15am
Specifically, the letter calls on Esper to protect the career of Col. Moon H. Kim, the command chaplain of U.S. Army Garrison Humphreys in South Korea. Kim faced backlash after he shared John Piper’s book, Coronavirus and Christ, with fellow chaplains in an email.

The lawmakers are also calling for the protection of Air Force Lt. Col. David McGraw, who for eight weeks led worship services from the balcony of his military housing unit in Germany.

Both Kim’s and McGraw’s actions are being condemned by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an organization that represents service members as it pushes for a strict separation of church and state within the military.

In both cases, the organization is representing service members who took offense to McGraw’s and Kim’s actions. MRFF has called for McGraw and Kim to be subject to a general court-martial for their actions of sharing their faith.

christianpost.com

They are using their official position to push Christianity. That is an explicit violation of the First Amendment. So it’s bash atheists time (even though the majority of MMRF is made up of Christians).

The politicians involved here will also use it to bash Democrats as anti-Christian.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 15, 2020 • 10:04:30am

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Better than man with head in a can?
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Dread Pirate  May 15, 2020 • 10:04:51am
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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 10:08:44am

re: #228 Dread Pirate

Do your best to stay away from these people and they will solve themselves.

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 10:10:14am

re: #228 Dread Pirate

It was…. inevitable.

And I am plum out of fucks to give.

They were warned how deadly serious all of this was, and they ignored the warnings, ignored the experts, and pleas to stay home and social distance and wear masks.

They did this to themselves. Fuck all of them and the enabling GOP to hell. They’ve enabled these know nothings and Trump’s again spewing nonsensical bulkshit about how this will all magically disappear at some random time in the future.

Because there’s no vaccine and no cure and no miracle treatment. All Trump has left is to baffle with bulkshit about how he’s done great on the economy, which is insane considering the damage he’s done thanks to his actions (and lack of same).

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Belafon  May 15, 2020 • 10:11:21am

re: #228 Dread Pirate

And the middle one is still being an idiot. She’s claiming that because she’s healthy it will only be a small problem. It’s a likely that it’s allergies, but whatever it is, unless she gets really sick, she’ll be back claiming it’s no big deal, and will probably refuse a test to see if she’s actually had it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 15, 2020 • 10:14:13am

re: #226 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fixed bad post.

They are not suing for “sharing their faith.” That’s a load of crap. They are suing for violating the First Amendment and the UCMJ.

5/8/20 - MRFF VICTORY!!! Air Force Officer Ends Sunday “Porch Preaching” to Captive COVID-19 Lockdown Audience at USAG Stuttgart (Military Religious Freedom Foundation)

Currently the MRFF is entangled with the VA over Nazi graves in a cemetery. The stones of German soldiers are marked with Nazi symbology, which the VA says are protected historical monuments. Massive numbers of veterans want those stones removed. With Nazis racists conservatives in charge of the VA, they won’t remove them.

VA under fire for defending the preservation of swastika headstones for Nazi troops buried in US national cemeteries (Business Insider)

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The Pie Overlord!  May 15, 2020 • 10:15:09am

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Edit #220 to move this part here.

Who the hell is Harry Enten, and does he have his head stuck in a can?

Chris Cillizza needed a weekend off, I guess.

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Oblongatis  May 15, 2020 • 10:16:33am

Hi Lizard folks,
I don’t post often but here’s something I posted in the Washington Post a few days back on the procedure if elections were cancelled.

While I’m not a constitutional expert, my understanding of the process if an election doesn’t happen is:

Trump and Pence’s mandate ends Jan 20th
The Houses mandate expires Jan 3rd, so no President Pelosi her term as Speaker ended

Next up is the President Pro Temp of the Senate, currently held by Senator Grassley since he isn’t up for election this cycle his mandate is still valid and is the first in the line of secession to constitutionally qualify.

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Decatur Deb  May 15, 2020 • 10:17:07am

re: #154 Joe Bacon 🌹

Deb I tried to warn my relatives in South Carolina about that because I know how hurricanes just love to hit Myrtle Beach…but they still reply with “our deep Christian Faith will protect us BS”…the same crap they use to justify going about their normal lives…only those who forsake Jesus stay at home…

They’ll be missed.

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lawhawk  May 15, 2020 • 10:18:27am

Polio, which was a scourge of early 20th century (identified symptomatically in the mid 19th century), saw efforts to create a vaccine in the 1930s and the testing suggested that it may have caused cases or was ineffectual. Later, the Salk vaccine was developed in 1953 and Sabin’s vaccine created in 1957 and tested. There were hiccups there too, but Sabin’s version became the primary version for years due to cost and ease to vaccinate.

With current tech, we might be able to create a vaccine faster, but testing still requires significant double blind studies to determine safety and side effects and risks, before you put it in the general population.

Trump’s lying and misleading the nation when he thinks there’s a vaccine right around the corner.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 15, 2020 • 10:24:39am

re: #222 jaunte

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Now that’s the twenty-first century I wanted to see.

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jaunte  May 15, 2020 • 10:25:33am

re: #228 Dread Pirate

This is why the surviving cave men were the ones who got sleepy during a rainstorm.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 15, 2020 • 10:48:23am

re: #228 Dread Pirate

So the trump super fan got a mild case which proves it’s just like the flu. “Just boost your immune system.”

Wrong lesson.


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