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FUCK TRUMP!
He’s watching the (reattempted) launch in Florida. Several people have suggested in thread that he be on the rocket. I concur.
The president of the United States is spending more of your tax dollars to go back to Florida to watch a rocket
— Molly Jong-Fast🏡 (@MollyJongFast) May 30, 2020
aw dang. I wanted to say FUCK TRUMP.
I guess I don’t have to be first to say it.
FUCK TRUMP.
re: #2 LadyBehir
aw dang. I wanted to say FUCK TRUMP.
I guess I don’t have to be first to say it.
FUCK TRUMP.
Say it loud and say it often is my motto. Fuck Trump.
Lots of noise in the neighborhood last night and into the early morning. I finally got some sleep, woke up at 930 to find out 500 people arrested so far in Los Angeles and more demonstrations going on.
I am not thinking of DT at the moment because I have Julia Child on the TV. The show is called Julia Child Best Bites. It is a re-run but like most shows on PBS are great.
re: #1 Sherlock Hound
FUCK TRUMP!
He’s watching the (reattempted) launch in Florida. Several people have suggested in thread that he be on the rocket. I concur.
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So he’s in Florida playing pretend Space Force while my city is BURNING. Fuck Trump.
re: #1 Sherlock Hound
FUCK TRUMP!
He’s watching the (reattempted) launch in Florida. Several people have suggested in thread that he be on the rocket. I concur.
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The prick should be UNDER the fucking rocket as it blasts off…
re: #1 Sherlock Hound
FUCK TRUMP!
He’s watching the (reattempted) launch in Florida. Several people have suggested in thread that he be on the rocket. I concur.
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It’s my understanding that Mars needs colonists. He can be launched there and then he can be the very first President of Mars. He’ll have the whole planet, all to himself!
Well…..for a little while, at least. Until his supplies run out. 😁
Remember how blog commenters used to try to be the first one to post “FIRST!” in a new thread?
At LGF, we have a new tradition. People vie to be first to post “FUCK TRUMP!”— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 30, 2020
Oh yeah, MAGA just _loves_ them some black people. https://t.co/Yc2gNLSUTL
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 30, 2020
If Trump can’t get to his rallies, he’ll bring his MAGAt rallies to the White House.
The professionally managed so-called “protesters” at the White House had little to do with the memory of George Floyd. They were just there to cause trouble. The @SecretService handled them easily. Tonight, I understand, is MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE???
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 30, 2020
In 1932, Gens. MacArthur and Patton ordered soldiers on horseback, with sabers drawn, to jab protesters, while infantrymen lobbed tear gas into the crowd and tanks came in. Against a crowd of WWI veterans in the midst of the Depression.https://t.co/3DSxBP29S7 https://t.co/joWP334cWW
— Paul Szoldra (@PaulSzoldra) May 30, 2020
re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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If the rest of that history holds true (FDR won big in November), we’re looking at some good news in November.
Just got this email. Not sure if my writings/ appearances sparked it, or simply my existence as a black person. This is what we’re fighting against. This is why people are rebelling across the nation. Stop pretending this mindset is rare and start realizing what’s at stake pic.twitter.com/Lpsd3tIUJZ
— Jason Johnson (@DrJasonJohnson) May 30, 2020
Our pain pales in comparison to #BreonnaTaylor #GeorgeFloyd #AhmadArbery #BothamJean #AtatianaJefferson families. But let me be clear. This nation’s inability to treat black people with basic decency and humanity doesn’t change whether you are on the street in bed or on air
— Jason Johnson (@DrJasonJohnson) May 30, 2020
re: #17 LadyBehir
FUCK TRUMP
Couldn’t read all of the previous post’s comments - did you guys know that the flippin’ AMISH are protesting?
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Yeah, I saw that yesterday sometime. It’s not unheard of - they have their own concerns and passions - but it is very deeply touching that they are getting involved.
Nothing would give Donald Trump more pleasure than to see his MAGA cult members attack protesters right in front of the White House.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 30, 2020
re: #14 Teddy’s Person
Getting in
that firstEVERY SINGLE Fuck Trump is really a thrill.
every last one!
re: #12 Teddy’s Person
If Trump can’t get to his rallies, he’ll bring his MAGAt rallies to the White House.
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No, Donald, that was last night as well.
I posted this in like a two day old thread, LOL
re: #92 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
We’re going to be lucky if we continue to have a free world.
If we’re lucky we’ll get to be the world’s prodigal son when Biden is elected.
re: #332 Charmingly Persistent
I feel like we already got that when Obama was elected after W Bush. If I were the world I wouldn’t have any trust or even optimism going forward.
Minnesota @GovTimWalz: “Let’s be very clear, the situation in Minneapolis is no longer in any way about the murder of George Floyd. It is about attacking civil society, instilling fear and disrupting our great cities.” pic.twitter.com/oYy97vM9vL
— CSPAN (@cspan) May 30, 2020
re: #19 Charles Johnson
He might actually watch that instead of Fox. Though more likely, he’ll down a pile of Big Macs and watch it ON Fox. No need to waddle to the window when his Fox Friends have it covered.
Meanwhile, the legally-sanctioned looting continues apace.
In total, America’s billionaires’ wealth grew about 15% while no fewer than 40.5 million American workers filed for unemployment benefits. Source: Daily Kos
re: #16 Citizen K
Absolutely heartbreaking. Absolutely.
For everyone who says to me, “Rioting is just wrong. Violence is never the answer”, I”m responding with “Maybe if the police stopped executing minorities in the street, there’ll be less riots.”
re: #16 Citizen K
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Every day at work I hear callers who love to use the “N” word like the dam is broke. And I remind those ignorant crackers that we record every call. A lot of them say they are glad that the calls are recorded because they want to be on God’s side—the white side…and they’re to stupid to realize they’re screaming at a Jew…
re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Can you see why I adore the guy? I wasn’t sure on him when he was elected, but his response to the pandemic - and now this - have really sold me. Dude’s got my support for a while.
re: #10 Charles Johnson
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I do take some pride in promoting the Fuck Trump at the top of the thread. Not my most important work, but it times like these…
“Twitter is girding for a protracted battle with Mr. Trump. Some employees have locked down their social media accounts and deleted their professional affiliation to avoid being harassed.” https://t.co/44yU6CG9sd
— Oliver Darcy (@oliverdarcy) May 30, 2020
re: #16 Citizen K
Damn put that behind private tags
The grammar here indicates that “MAGA” does not include African-Americans. More on Trump’s use of “us” and “them”: https://t.co/Ycsfp6Y16g https://t.co/02Is3ykjda
— ryan teague beckwith (@ryanbeckwith) May 30, 2020
crybaby
Here we go again. Fake News @CNN is blaming RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA. They are sick losers with VERY bad ratings! P.S. Can’t blame China because they need the cash?
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 30, 2020
re: #32 Shropshire Slasher
Damn put that behind private tags
No.
It needs to be seen.
It needs to be exposed.
It needs to be rebuked the way Jason Johnson did.
re: #32 Shropshire Slasher
Damn put that behind private tags
It’s nasty. Vile. But we need to bear witness.
re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth
crybaby
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You want to be Presidential? Get your ass up here. Take a walk down Lake Street. See the damage that YOUR PEOPLE are doing to MY CITY. Have some goddamned compassion and empathy for once in your guilt-ridden, corruption-stained, fat-cat-lazy-ass life.
driftglass goes after David Brooks again: When Beltway Pundits Dream, They Dream of Imaginary Lincoln
When he really settles into the saddle, he doesn’t spare the words, so it is long, but really gets into the meat of it about halfway through or so.
What’s appalling is that Very Serious Beltway Pundits like David Brooks have no love for the actual Lincoln. The guy who is buried two miles from my front door. Instead, they love their imaginary Lincoln just as they love their imaginary Reagan.
… Their imaginary Lincoln is a Lincoln without Shiloh or Cold Harbor. A Lincoln without the Wilderness or Vicksburg or the Shenandoah Valley.
Their Lincoln is two-dimensional caricature of the actual Lincoln. A gentle redeemer and uniter, and not the man who went through just about every general in the Union Army until he found one that would do what needed to be done: crush the Confederacy completely, regardless of the cost. One that would bomb their cities, burn their crops, slaughter their armies and starve their citizens until, at last, their will to make a traitor’s war against the United States was broken and they finally gave up.
There is no place in Mr. Brooks’ gauzy cartoon version of American history for a Lincoln who recognized a mortal threat to the nation coming from a despicable confederacy of its own citizens, and who ruthlessly used every bloody means at his disposal to utterly destroy that threat. No place in his idylls for a Lincoln who offered reunion and reconstruct to the South only after they had been beaten to their knees and forced to accept surrender or face extinction. …
We’re very close to a MAGAt actually shooting protesters with his AR which will open another whole Pandora’s Box with the Fascist in Chief.
Yes, I’m spitting a little fire today. I’ve recovered from the initial shock and I am mad. Mad at Trump and his humpers, mad at people who think this is a fine place to come and brawl, mad at the apathetic whitewashed crowd who use the violence to excuse their inaction on critical matters of social justice. Fuck ALL those assholes in particular. PEOPLE ARE DYING. The Mississippi runs red with fire and blood. Now is not the time to make excuses and do nothing!
re: #32 Shropshire Slasher
I understand why you would want that behind private tag but I think doing so somehow sanitizes it. Rot needs to be exposed and having the light of day disinfect it.
When Trump says “MAGA loves the black people,” he knows very well the opposite is true. He says things like this to give himself a sick thrill.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 30, 2020
re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth
crybaby
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RATINGS. This fucking fuck is talking about ratings. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
There’s not enough swear words in all the languages in Earth to convey my anger.
re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹
No.
It needs to be seen.
It needs to be exposed.
It needs to be rebuked the way Jason Johnson did.
re: #36 BigPapa
It’s nasty. Vile. But we need to bear witness.
Agreed. We need to see how open it is now, how casual it is now, because that’s what’s happening. People are emboldened to sling it out because they feel empowered by it. They feel that between Trump empowering and enabling the entrenched power structures behind this, and the pain and outrage rising up like a geyser from black communities, they feel the need to bludgeon black people like this to ‘show their place’. Ignoring it or hiding it doesn’t change that this is happening, and more gleeful than ever.
Trump says ‘MAGA loves black people.’ As if MAGA and black folk are two distinct constituencies. Telling.
re: #44 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
RATINGS. This fucking fuck is talking about ratings. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
There’s not enough swear words in all the languages in Earth to convey my anger.
We need to makeup some new ones.
re: #39 BigPapa
We’re very close to a MAGAt actually shooting protesters with his AR which will open another whole Pandora’s Box with the Fascist in Chief.
Motherfucker couldn’t handle a recoil from a water pistol.
Some photos of the aftermath of the riots in Portland overnight:
re: #50 Dr Lizardo
Nevermind. Can’t get the Imgur link to work.
thread
in organized fashion setting fire to historic businesses in communities of color, and causing mayhem. Ellison cited the widely circulating video of a white man in a gas mask holding an umbrella who was caught by protestors on video breaking windows.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) May 30, 2020
includes this:
He adds that white nationalist groups are posting messages promoting going to Minneapolis to “get our loot on” and cause mayhem. He says they will investigate those using the outrage over the murder of George Floyd as a “cover” for illegal activity
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) May 30, 2020
Mayor Carter says they saw mayhem starters throw incendiary devices and then run behind legit protesters and “use them as a human shield.” He says being out after curfew allows yourself to be used.
— Joy Reid (@JoyAnnReid) May 30, 2020
Trump stands with DeVos, vetoes measure to overturn her controversial student loan forgiveness rule, WaPo
President Trump on Friday vetoed a bipartisan resolution to overturn a policy that makes it tougher for students who say they were defrauded by colleges to have their federal education loans canceled.
In rejecting the measure Friday, Trump called it “a misguided resolution that would increase costs for American students and undermine their ability to make choices about their education in order to best meet their needs.”
Although the White House had long signaled the move, veterans groups that strongly oppose the regulation had implored Trump to stand with members of the military who they say are routinely preyed upon by unscrupulous schools for their lucrative GI Bill education benefits.
In the lead-up to Memorial Day, veterans groups ran advertisements on Fox News urging Trump to support the congressional resolution. But siding with veterans would have forced Trump to abandon the longest-serving member of his Cabinet: Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.
Trump is a walking Petri dish. 🦠 https://t.co/KDov3GCnW4
— Katie Phang (@KatiePhang) May 30, 2020
re: #17 LadyBehir
They don’t look Amish
Please. Consider sharing this.
It’s an emergency message detailing what I’ve seen about white terrorist cells infiltrating the protests and escalating tensions in order to push America to the brink and what it all means.https://t.co/SZrCk8QhbC— Jared Yates Sexton (@JYSexton) May 30, 2020
re: #57 Teddy’s Person
I think they are Mennonites.
You can’t trust those shifty Mennonites.
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Simpson’s quote.
“MAGA loves the black people.”
“Mongo only pawn in game of life.” https://t.co/0zXm4Y0psm— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) May 30, 2020
I dont remember you praising @Kaepernick7 . https://t.co/YS18qlmWUy
— Michael McFaul (@McFaul) May 30, 2020
I grew up in area with a substantial Amish community. During college, my younger brother delivered pizzas. He loved delivering to the Amish. They were big tippers. He tells the story of one delivery where an older man was on the front porch smoking a pipe. My brother took the pizza inside, and when he came out, the older gentleman asked if they tipped him enough and handed him a ten spot.
re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth
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The Trump campaign’s outreach to African-American voters continues to be a dumpster fire.
Cincinnati OTR today:
“No justice, no peace. Keep the racists off our streets” chant echoing through Washington Park. pic.twitter.com/DayxmK3fYt
— Kathryn Robinson (@Local12Kathryn) May 30, 2020
Protestors are now dispersing after ending peaceful march through OTR and downtown. Here are a few images from City Hall. pic.twitter.com/zFrarK3SiX
— Kathryn Robinson (@Local12Kathryn) May 30, 2020
re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth
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The violence isn’t in reaction to George Floyd, it’s right-wing ratfucking and YOU NEED TO OWN IT. FUCK YOU.
In a stunning upset, Hikaru Nakamura, an American Super GM, just defeated the world champion Magnus Carlsen in match play to advance to the finals of an online knockout tournament. No, it isn’t the world championship, but I’m guessing Carlsen hasn’t lost an actual match in 5 years, at least.
Got another pair of messages from Los Angeles DSA that the Boogaloos and Proud Boys are instigating actions in Los Angeles today. There are demonstrations going on at Pan Pacific Park and Mariachi Plaza being targeted by those cracker thugs.
“The black community needs our help. They have been unheard for far too long. Open your ears, listen, and speak. This isn’t politics. This is human rights.”https://t.co/1QRM2nzDXu
— Local 12/WKRC-TV (@Local12) May 29, 2020
re: #67 Joe Bacon 🌹
Got another pair of messages from Los Angeles DSA that the Boogaloos and Proud Boys are instigating actions in Los Angeles today. There are demonstrations going on at Pan Pacific Park and Mariachi Plaza being targeted by those cracker thugs.
It sounds like a lot of people need to get together and surround them and keep them from doing anything.
The US Secret Service confirms DC police were on the scene despite the president’s false claim belowhttps://t.co/xs2PJOg4gy https://t.co/elqw3QgcqZ
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) May 30, 2020
#MAGANIGHT
Because Trump knows he can seize even more power if the protests become deadly. pic.twitter.com/xH2bQR13Lw— Cooper (@Cooperstreaming) May 30, 2020
re: #70 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)
The US Secret Service confirms DC police were on the scene despite the president’s false claim below
I do hope that Twitter takes him to task on that one…
This is such a bullshit argument:
“The police murder White people too, so everyone should stop being mad at the police.” https://t.co/biAuNigDWM— Rational Disconnect (@RationalDis) May 30, 2020
“I’ve got everything crossed — arms, legs. I’m tied in a knot.” — @WilliamShatner #LaunchAmerica pic.twitter.com/yfiCmlbv9g
— NASA (@NASA) May 30, 2020
It doesn’t matter if I “condone” rioting. Things happen whatever I might think of theml
It doesn’t matter whether one condones riots in the same way it doesn’t matter if one condones gravity. Rioting is under certain conditions inevitable, and opportunism during rioting is inevitable. It’s also inevitable that non-rioting mass behavior will be castigated as rioting.
— Nick No War Mamatas 🤼♂️🏴 (@NMamatas) May 30, 2020
Yes, clearly, Trump wants his goons to show up outside the White House and menace protesters. As he left for Florida, he was asked about the “MAGA night” tweet and said: “I have no idea if they’re going to be here. I was just asking.”
What a despicable demagogue.— Mark Jacob (@MarkJacob16) May 30, 2020
In Minneapolis, the cops are the problem. My surprise, let me show you it…
My dental office in the Linden Hills neighborhood of southwest Minneapolis is boarding up their windows this afternoon. We are a long way from the protests, so let’s be clear about what’s going on here. We don’t have a protest problem. We have a policing problem. A thread: 1/ pic.twitter.com/U4Lxnh7MPd
— Lynnell Mickelsen (@lynnellmick) May 29, 2020
re: #73 DodgerFan1988
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Bullshit argument indeed: a quick google of the Tony Timpa case (from Dallas in 2016) reveals it to be a horrible tragedy - very much like the George Floyd incident - poor dumb schmuck ends up in police hands; dies - while the cops joke around - and they walk, even after indictment, because the DA drops it.
I’m not sure what Walsh’s point is here (outside of racist assholery) - no riots? WTF? It’s cases like Tony Timpa’s that deserve protests: maybe his family/friends/community were just deluded into assuming that “justice” would eventually get done.
Writer Linda Tirado has been in Minneapolis covering the situation and got hit in the face by a tracer round or rubber bullet last night. Her tweets are behind the button, but the tl;dr is she lost the sight in her eye but she doesn’t have COVID-19.
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re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth
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um… no. not really.
they suggested that Russia Russia Russia is a possibility; but home-grown American Nazis and White Supremecists and 4-Chan are very much on the suspect list. It’s definitely not Black Lives Matter; they’re the ones trying to identify and stop the provocateurs.
re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Pretty much he’s openly inviting his “Proud Boys” brownshirts to come in to disrupt any protestors outside the White House.
re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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My Grandfather was among those gassed by MacArthur in 1932. He NEVER forgave MacArthur for that heinous action and he popped open a magnum of champagne when MacArthur died.
In a better world, this would be a normal late spring weekend and the big news of the day would be Americans going back into space for the first time in years.
re: #81 Belafon
T-40: it was funny watching the astronauts just lounging around: I guess they’re moving now: looks like the weather will finally be cooperating today….
I felt like I needed to rewatch the 1965 Baldwin-Buckley debate this morning. I had to hear Baldwin speaking after the events of last night. His speech to the Oxford Union is more powerful now than it was then. I made a LGF page with a link to the debate. If you have never seen it before, I ask that you watch and see Baldwin in all his power denounce injustice while Buckley feebly tries to counter.
Never forget that Buckley defended segregation here in America and especially in South Africa.
newsflash:
pepperoni pizza puts blood iron levels over the top
blood bank takes a pint
The presidential turd is all up in the NASA punchbowl again. https://t.co/UXtlSYIwVe
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 30, 2020
The Secret Service has released a statement saying the DC Metropolitan Police Department and the US Park Service Police were on the scene at the White House protests last night, which means that Trump’s claims that they weren’t are false. https://t.co/NP9rbDsC5T
— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) May 30, 2020
Assuming that they are going with a 2-man crew due to it being a simple orbital flight instead of docking with the ISS. Last time we had that was on then final Gemini 12 launch back in 1966 when Buzz Aldrin and Jim Lovell conducted multiple EVAs as practice runs for Apollo flights.
edit: scratch that part about ISS, apparently they are docking.
re: #79 mmmirele
Writer Linda Tirado has been in Minneapolis covering the situation and got hit in the face by a tracer round or rubber bullet last night. Her tweets are behind the button, but the tl;dr is she lost the sight in her eye but she doesn’t have COVID-19.
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Oh man. I remember getting a tennis ball smashed into my eye when I was in high school. I still have permanently distorted vision because of scarring, but I was lucky that the tennis ball is soft and has give, even at high velocity. I have no doubt the kind of damage a harder rubber bullet would have. My condolences to her and screw the fucknut that shot her.
re: #79 mmmirele
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Trump is calling for #MAGAnacht.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 30, 2020
Goddammit. Here we go again. https://t.co/7u08iyzUbB
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 30, 2020
re: #17 LadyBehir
FUCK TRUMP
Couldn’t read all of the previous post’s comments - did you guys know that the flippin’ AMISH are protesting?
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re: #57 Teddy’s Person
Not Amish, probably not Mennonites either. Neither wear ankle length dresses, the women aren’t wearing “coverings” on their heads and while some Mennonite women don’t, those women would be dressed in ordinary street clothes. Also, Amish or super conservative Mennonite men wouldn’t have buttons on their jackets.
Someone is playing dress up.
re: #90 Charles Johnson
He is so itching to claim credit.
re: #97 Charles Johnson
At a place where I used to work at, we had unionized security guards. After I had left they went on strike. My former manager sped up into the parking lot at the picketing guards and damn near ran them over.
U.S. military units put on four-hour standby amid Minnesota unrest https://t.co/nU55Yxva63 pic.twitter.com/MllVnox6pf
— Reuters (@Reuters) May 30, 2020
Putin-speak. Trump signals white supremacist agitators that he has their backs, Barr follows with assurance from law enforcement that DOJ is going to protect them, too.
— glennwsmith (@glennwsmith) May 30, 2020
re: #101 Charles Johnson
This is illegal action. Does posse comitatus not apply?
As we reach T-minus 10 min, let us observe Shepard’s Prayer: “Dear Lord, please don’t let me fuck this up.”
re: #101 Charles Johnson
One of my co-worker’s spouses is a National Guardsmen and has been put on a 4-hour deployment notice.
re: #101 Charles Johnson
This reminds me too much of the ‘60’s. Plus throw DT’s supporters into mix and it will be one huge mess.
The brass astronauts have. I’ve always been in awe.
Pro tip-Trump is NOT in the feed from SpaceX
Fascinating: T-7:00 is “engine chill” - they pump liquid helium into the pipes to chill it down for the LOx’ Never knew that….
re: #107 plansbandc
The brass astronauts have. I’ve always been in awe.
“You want me to sit on top of 3 million pounds of high explosives, breathing pure oxygen that could burn me alive, until the whole pile yeets me, 2 other guys, and 3 million more pounds of aircraft-grade aluminum and titanium into the cold hard vacuum of outer space, to the moon, and back again… Where do I sign up?”
re: #110 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
“You want me to sit on top of 3 million pounds of high explosives, breathing pure oxygen that could burn me alive, until the whole pile yeets me, 2 other guys, and 3 million more pounds of aircraft-grade aluminum and titanium into the cold hard vacuum of outer space, to the moon, and back again… Where do I sign up?”
“Just think, the contract on this thing went to the lowest bidder.”
Just saw Trump and Pence at NASA. Someone should tell him that the best view is under the rocket.
re: #112 Belafon
Just saw Trump and Pence at NASA. Someone should tell him that the best view is under the rocket.
Right under the first stage rockets.
re: #111 Targetpractice
“Just think, the contract on this thing went to the lowest bidder.”
Which is why the Apollo 1 astronauts took the crew photo of them folding their hands in prayer around a mockup of the CSM. No fools, those brave boys.
re: #111 Targetpractice
“Just think, the contract on this thing went to the lowest bidder.”
It didn’t during the cold war.
They’re through max Q. No Challenger today.
MECO, stage separation
2nd stage engine in nominal
Second stage lit. Now it’s a race against gravity.
I’m watching a youtube feed that is almost 20 seconds ahead of the TV broadcast
re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth
4,049 mph
The target figure is somewhere around 8 km/s for low Earth orbit, which will be around 28,000 km/h as reported on the screen.
It was amazing you could hear the entire neighborhood cheering and chatting while watching the zoom peaking through the clouds
Sonic boom was glorious
They made it! Nominal orbital insertion!
re: #106 PhillyPretzel
This reminds me too much of the ‘60’s. Plus throw DT’s supporters into mix and it will be one huge mess.
With one in four of us thrown out of work, more Americans dead than in all our wars of the past 75 yrs, a racist, sexist, corrupt, traitorous president attacking our system & promoting division & hate, no, this is not 1968. It is a US catastrophe unlike any since the Civil War.
— David Rothkopf (@djrothkopf) May 30, 2020
Dragon has separated from 2nd stage
Amid a pandemic with 100k deaths and widespread civil unrest over police brutality, across our country, this clown we call “president” is out there trying to watch a rocket launch, to the soundtrack of “macho man.” https://t.co/1w16PhJdoq
— Lauren Werner 🗽 (@LaurenWern) May 30, 2020
What did the Village People ever do to deserve this.
re: #137 teleskiguy
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Also disturbing that Trump seems, ummm, really excited at the prospect of violence. Or at least violence he can watch safely because he’s a coward.
re: #139 jaunte
I have no idea but if they still have a claim on the music maybe they should sue.
Fucking lickspittle Pence mimicking the Trump stance.
re: #139 jaunte
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What did the Village People ever do to deserve this.
They cashed the check?
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I missed 2nd stage engine shutoff and the 1st stage landing while dealing with maintenance guy snaking out buildings sewer line (again)
What a remarkable thing to watch. How about that first stage landing perfectly on the drone ship?
Bill Barr might be the single most loathsome individual in the Maladministration outside of Trump, and perhaps only just behind McConnell overall. What a fucking piece of shit.
Maybe it’s sending rockets in space that causes turmoil.
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And my joke is not about the spending of the money, but that we’ve been engineered to stress out when we try to go into space. Our alien creators didn’t want us to leave.
re: #135 Belafon
Dinosaur in space.
I heard it referred to as a “zero-g indicator”: which makes sense: take some tchotchke into the capsule with you, put it on the floor, and when it starts to float: HEY! ZERO-G!!
Low-tech, but I guess it works…..
Goddamn Bridenstene is such a Trump today.
re: #145 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
I missed 2nd stage engine shutoff and the 1st stage landing while dealing with maintenance guy snaking out buildings sewer line (again)
I missed the landing bit, they showed the platform and I looked away and when I looked back, hey, there’s the first stage sitting perfectly on the deck!
re: #139 jaunte
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What did the Village People ever do to deserve this.
I will never not be amused when conservatives rock out to the Village People.
On the science channel, they said the capsule has finger rests up by the screens so that they don’t have to hold their arms up the whole time.
re: #149 Jay C
It’s a regular thing in the Soyuz capsules, a stuffed toy or similar is dangled from the overhead and when it starts floating the crew know they’re in free-fall.
Sadly the SpaceX folks don’t seem to carry out the other Soyuz tradition of having the astronauts pee on the rocket transporter on the way to the pad.
Trump blatantly threatening the lives of American citizens all across America. Race war. https://t.co/tM0H54fDbM
— Matt Murphy (@MattMurph24) May 30, 2020
The Right Stuff is one of my absolute favorite movies of all time. I may just have to watch it today in celebration of this launch.
re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth
What exactly does he think we’re doing, sitting around picking daisies? How do you think we KNEW that our enemies came from out of state? We arrested their asses! In short: Shut the fuck up, Donnie, you’re out of your element.
Not watching NASA interviews, guessing from comments there’s a lot of Trump praise going on.
Remember, this flight was contracted in 2014
re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth
The good Bishop isn’t having any of it either:
Using the Internet to incite violence is a FEDERAL CRIME!You’ve threatened to shoot Black people in Minneapolis, shoot protesters in DC and sic “very vicious dogs“ on them so that they would be “very badly hurt.“You’re a violent, racist, degenerate, son of a Klansman. https://t.co/arKh90Vu53
— Bishop Talbert Swan (@TalbertSwan) May 30, 2020
You’ve never threatened to use the military against tiki torch carrying nazis, white supremacists, confederate flag waiving, gun toting, noose carrying, white nationalists, your “very fine people,” but threaten to shoot, use the military, and sic vicious dogs on Black people. https://t.co/arKh90Vu53
— Bishop Talbert Swan (@TalbertSwan) May 30, 2020
Springwatch is easily my mum and dad’s cat George’s favourite TV show and he tunes in religiously each week and never misses a second of the action. pic.twitter.com/fbXA3wxhRR
— Tom Cox (@cox_tom) May 30, 2020
Everyone is a little bit fancy, given the chance. Three months before this photo was taken, George was homeless and living in a filthy hedge, with not a penny to his name. It took very little encouragement for him to become a right posh wanker. pic.twitter.com/v7Mf8u7d4n
— Tom Cox (@cox_tom) May 30, 2020
re: #159 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Not watching NASA interviews, guessing from comments there’s a lot of Trump praise going on.
Remember, this flight was contracted in 2014
CCDev started in 2010, and the contract was signed with SpaceX in 2014. But sure, let’s credit this to the asshole who just happened to be in office when it all came to fruition.
Guess NASA forgot that the last time they did that, the asshole (Nixon) went on to cut the manned spaceflight budget because we’d “beaten” the Soviets to the Moon and thus needed those funds for things like carpet-bombing goat trails in the Far East.
The rocket launch feels like checking in with a baby christening in the middle of a murder spree.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) May 30, 2020
— Moe K. Clark ☀️ (@moe_clark15) May 30, 2020
So it’s NOT going to be “MAGA night” at the White House?
Because those people aren’t going to be DC residents.
Of course, what he really means is that he’s going to arrest protesters he doesn’t like, and look the other way for those he does. https://t.co/T5iblwV7wq— David Waldman-1, of Yorktown LLC™ (@KagroX) May 30, 2020
re: #150 Eric The Fruit Bat
Goddamn Bridenstene is such a Trump today.
Crowing about Trump “layin it on the line” with the promise of putting men returning to the moon in 8 years (from inaugural address).
JFK set a pretty high standard in goal setting.
(just my opinion)
re: #162 Targetpractice
Think where we’d be by now if Nixon hadn’t cut NASA’s budget.
Is the internet identifying the white people caught breaking stuff?
You know, you don’t have to be excited about the SpaceX launch, and I get it if you’re not. But you don’t have to shit on those of us who are.
Just like the 60s, I can care about what’s happening on the streets and still be inspired by what’s happening in orbit.— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) May 30, 2020
re: #157 plansbandc
cue Also Sprach Zarathustra. :)
(2001: A Space Odyssey)
re: #167 Dr Lizardo
Think where we’d be by now if Nixon hadn’t cut NASA’s budget.
We’d all be talking about Reagan cutting the budget, though if nothing else about history was different it probably would have been Carter due to the recession.
re: #10 Charles Johnson
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I seem to remember that the phrase was “Frist” after Bill Frist.
wut??
NEW UPDATE:
The National Guard will NOT be cutting cell service in Minneapolis at 4:00pm tonight. Heard from Congresswoman Ilhan Omar’s Office.— sean lim (@SeanLimMN) May 30, 2020
re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth
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You know that fat fuck won’t lift a finger when it comes to his Boogaloo or Proud Boys pals!
re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth
wut??
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What it should be called in these situations: video upload service.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) May 30, 2020
Son called today to say he was going to a protest in NY to provide bottled water and take first aid kits. Proud of that kid. But, when he told me that he had written my telephone number on his arm “just in case,” I damn near cried. Why do our babied have to even think abt this?!
— Charles M. Blow (@CharlesMBlow) May 30, 2020
re: #171 Belafon
We’d all be talking about Reagan cutting the budget, though if nothing else about history was different it probably would have been Carter due to the recession.
Yeah, that’s a good point. Sooner or later, someone would’ve made the cuts.
Statement from @JoeBiden on today’s successful SpaceX launch at Cape Canaveral pic.twitter.com/DOFwN1xbd6
— Kevin Munoz (@munozka315) May 30, 2020
Sweetie, you’re looking the wrong way. The sky is UP. 😁 (🙄) #SpaceX pic.twitter.com/glzmZjC7pP
— Randy Rainbow (@RandyRainbow) May 30, 2020
re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth
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This reminds me of a scene in the documentary Freedom Riders. John Seigenthaler (special assistant to RFK) is featured in the doc as he was the administration’s point man for the Freedom Riders. In the doc, Seigenthaler talks about getting a call from RFK, after the first wave of riders, asking him who the hell was Diane Nash. Nash was an organizer for the second wave of riders. Seigenthaler was tasked with calling her to talk her out of the second wave, telling her people were going to get killed. She responded that she (and the riders) knew and that had all prepared their wills the night before. I use this doc in my teaching so I’ve seen him describe this many times. It brings tears to my eyes every damn time. College students writing their wills.
If you’ve not seen the documentary, it’s very good.
Crossing State lines to incite violence is a FEDERAL CRIME! Liberal Governors and Mayors must get MUCH tougher or the Federal Government will step in and do what has to be done, and that includes using the unlimited power of our Military and many arrests. Thank you!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 30, 2020
The Military does NOT have unlimited power you malignant shitweasel.
“KAG” sort of sounds like the noise you’d make choking on your own hate. https://t.co/kzKty9YgSc
— Steve Marmel (@Marmel) May 30, 2020
re: #167 Dr Lizardo
Think where we’d be by now if Nixon hadn’t cut NASA’s budget.
Mondale murdered the space program. That’s why I could not bring myself to vote for him even though it was for Reagan’s second term.
Thousands now chanting “black lives matter” in front of the US Embassy in Berlin #GeorgeFloyd pic.twitter.com/Jh65RKhTLo
— Carl Nasman (@CarlNasman) May 30, 2020
My sister’s little guy is EVERYTHING right now!@NASA @SpaceX #LaunchAmerica pic.twitter.com/7YhFlHpgz3
— Shannon Cofield 🛰🗺 (@MarsRoverMapper) May 30, 2020
re: #178 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, that’s a good point. Sooner or later, someone would’ve made the cuts.
Walter Mondale had a grudge against NASA over the Apollo 1 disaster. I was convinced he would end the space program if he was elected in 1984. In that time period, the idea that we should “spend the money on Earth instead!” was really prevalent. Stonekettle’s thread is just a faint reflection of those times. The late Carl Sagan even lobbied against the International Space Station at one point; its appropriation passed Congress by ONE vote.
all i keep thinking about is this
Dr Who Dinosaur on a spaceship
re: #187 Sherlock Hound
Walter Mondale had a grudge against NASA over the Apollo 1 disaster. I was convinced he would end the space program if he was elected in 1984. In that time period, the idea that we should “spend the money on Earth instead!” was really prevalent. Stonekettle’s thread is just a faint reflection of those times. The late Carl Sagan even lobbied against the International Space Station at one point; its appropriation passed Congress by ONE vote.
Interesting - I didn’t know that.
re: #151 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I missed the landing bit, they showed the platform and I looked away and when I looked back, hey, there’s the first stage sitting perfectly on the deck!
The feed from the barge cut off as the landing happened, seems to do that seems to happen on most of the barge landings I have watched.
re: #167 Dr Lizardo
Think where we’d be by now if Nixon hadn’t cut NASA’s budget.
Nixon cut the budget of lunar flight, but did at least get the ball rolling in 1972 on funding for the Space Shuttle. However, it wasn’t until Carter came into office to get more than one vehicle into service, when he pushed for Challenger, Discovery and Atlantis in 1979, and of course, the ISS didn’t get funding until 1993 (as the original design for Freedom from the 1980s never got any budgetary commitment).
This sort of thing always amazes me.
I mean, I get that some people are just deliberately stupid, but it’s the part where they advertise how fucking ignorant they are like they should get a cookie for it. That’s the part which flabbergasts me. pic.twitter.com/0SxoMZnkMC— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) May 30, 2020
re: #187 Sherlock Hound
Walter Mondale had a grudge against NASA over the Apollo 1 disaster. I was convinced he would end the space program if he was elected in 1984. In that time period, the idea that we should “spend the money on Earth instead!” was really prevalent. Stonekettle’s thread is just a faint reflection of those times. The late Carl Sagan even lobbied against the International Space Station at one point; its appropriation passed Congress by ONE vote.
I believe Carl Sagan’s opposition to the space station was that it was so expensive it would strangle NASA’s operating budget for decades. I can’t say he was wrong. Manned space flight has been tethered to low earth orbit ever since and the ROI on the space station is pretty questionable.
re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth
SpaceX must have been slowed by the very online pedants.
re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth
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The US & USSR were cribbing off the Nazis, utilizing leftover A4 (aka V2) rockets and other research left from the war to boost their own programs. Kidnapping/”recruiting” Nazi rocket engineers and offering them “jobs” didn’t hurt either.
#BREAKING: Protestors have set fire to police cruiser near Broad & Vine in #Philadelphia @6abc pic.twitter.com/FBOHvmsgJD
— George Solis (@GeorgeSolis) May 30, 2020
re: #172 Greup
I seem to remember that the phrase was “Frist” after Bill Frist.
As a former regular at “Eschaton” I can confirm that.Used to drive me nutz…
re: #193 danarchy
I believe Carl Sagan’s opposition to the space station was that it was so expensive it would strangle NASA’s operating budget for decades. I can’t say he was wrong. Manned space flight has been tethered to low earth orbit ever since and the ROI on the space station is pretty questionable.
The ROI on the Shuttle was a horror. But like Shuttle, what the ISS is, and what it does, is incalculable. In other words, one must ask, “ROI compared to what?” We’ve learned a lot even just living in space.
Crew Dragon has separated from Falcon 9’s second stage and is on its way to the International Space Station with @Astro_Behnken and @AstroDoug! Autonomous docking at the @Space_Station will occur at ~10:30 a.m. EDT tomorrow, May 31 pic.twitter.com/bSZ6yZP2bD
— SpaceX (@SpaceX) May 30, 2020
re: #198 Sherlock Hound
The ROI on the Shuttle was a horror. But like Shuttle, what the ISS is, and what it does, is incalculable. In other words, one must ask, “ROI compared to what?” We’ve learned a lot even just living in space.
also, ROI doesn’t always require a literal financial profit
That went well. 😂 pic.twitter.com/1iC7wtGyYP
— Car Crash TV (@Crashingtv) May 30, 2020
re: #193 danarchy
I believe Carl Sagan’s opposition to the space station was that it was so expensive it would strangle NASA’s operating budget for decades. I can’t say he was wrong. Manned space flight has been tethered to low earth orbit ever since and the ROI on the space station is pretty questionable.
If memory serves, some of the original Huntsville rocketeers (including an fairly well known German) felt the same way about any manned flight.
Hours after journalists are arrested and assaulted covering protests across the country https://t.co/LjYpp6LezK
— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) May 30, 2020
re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth
also, ROI doesn’t always require a literal financial profit
It isn’t about financial benefit, it is opportunity cost. It is a what if question so we can never really know, but if you had just given the money to NASA and let them decide how to spend it I don’t think the ISS is what would have won. The ISS was a diplomatic/political thing as much as a scientific endeavor.
Time to call it a day. Have a good one Lizards, and stay healthy.
In case you’re wondering, the German word for ‘MAGA night’ is Kristallnacht.#TrumpResignNow https://t.co/44h8VKDM5b
— Devin Nunes’ Alt-Mom (@NunesAlt) May 30, 2020
re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Reminder that this is Trump’s endgame, as evidenced in 2018 when there were coordinated attacks against journalists.
re: #204 danarchy
It isn’t about financial benefit, it is opportunity cost. It is a what if question so we can never really know, but if you had just given the money to NASA and let them decide how to spend it I don’t think the ISS is what would have won. The ISS was a diplomatic/political thing as much as a scientific endeavor.
They would have developed Shuttle sooner and tried to save Skylab.
half-snark /
A source provided this video to @ColleenNBC4 showing the incident that resulted in Rep. Joyce Beatty, City Council President Shannon Hardin and Franklin County Commissioner Kevin Boyce getting pepper sprayed Saturday morning. https://t.co/ogqPrajniZ pic.twitter.com/19f1xbC53m
— NBC4 Columbus (@nbc4i) May 30, 2020
re: #204 danarchy
It isn’t about financial benefit, it is opportunity cost. It is a what if question so we can never really know, but if you had just given the money to NASA and let them decide how to spend it I don’t think the ISS is what would have won. The ISS was a diplomatic/political thing as much as a scientific endeavor.
The ISS is the child of “Space Station Alpha,” which itself was the child of Skylab and other 60s-era proposals for permanent space labs. And “Alpha” itself was NASA giving the Shuttle something to do, as the long list of compromises made to get that off the ground had turned the “reusable orbital U-haul” into a bloated white elephant that they were struggling to justify by the Carter era when programs like Pioneer, Voyager, and Viking were sending back reams of data for a lot less investment. Honestly, if Carter has been reelected or Mondale had been elected, odds are the SST would have been shit-canned after Columbia.
“Run to the polls and vote like you’ve never voted before.” ~ John Lewis just now
— Matt Murphy (@MattMurph24) May 30, 2020
re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth
He is absolutely correct. Don’t forget to vote in your state’s Primary and General Election.
JUST IN: FBI’s top lawyer, Dana Boente, has been asked to resign, and 2 sources familiar with the decision to dismiss him say it came from high levels of the Justice Dept. rather than directly from FBI Director Wray. https://t.co/1yWPWh3hld
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) May 30, 2020
re: #181 Teddy’s Person
This reminds me of a scene in the documentary Freedom Riders. John Seigenthaler (special assistant to RFK) is featured in the doc as he was the administration’s point man for the Freedom Riders. In the doc, Seigenthaler talks about getting a call from RFK, after the first wave of riders, asking him who the hell was Diane Nash. Nash was an organizer for the second wave of riders. Seigenthaler was tasked with calling her to talk her out of the second wave, telling her people were going to get killed. She responded that she (and the riders) knew and that had all prepared their wills the night before. I use this doc in my teaching so I’ve seen him describe this many times. It brings tears to my eyes every damn time. College students writing their wills.
If you’ve not seen the documentary, it’s very good.
I have watched it several times and also Freedom Summer. Both excellent.
They’re telling me how to intel now.
Hang on, lemme freshen my drink before you go any further. pic.twitter.com/Elc8ijBx3G— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) May 30, 2020
re: #210 Targetpractice
The ISS is the child of “Space Station Alpha,” which itself was the child of Skylab and other 60s-era proposals for permanent space labs. And “Alpha” itself was NASA giving the Shuttle something to do, as the long list of compromises made to get that off the ground had turned the “reusable orbital U-haul” into a bloated white elephant that they were struggling to justify by the Carter era when programs like Pioneer, Voyager, and Viking were sending back reams of data for a lot less investment. Honestly, if Carter has been reelected or Mondale had been elected, odds are the SST would have been shit-canned after Columbia.
The Russian’s were flabbergasted by the shuttle. They knew the numbers; they knew it couldn’t work. Hell, they tried to sort of build something that might be closer to working in Buran but dropped it after one unmanned flight. It was just too expensive for civilian launches and they had better military boosters.
Just like us. But we had to keep the shuttle going because of how crippled the development system had become and we kept going till the second was lost and that made it obvious that it had to go.
I’m not sure today’s launch is really any better. We should have been doing far more research on aerospike based engines and SSTO concepts.
Color me not shocked… https://t.co/BMae25DzAM
— Don Millard (@OTOOLEFAN) May 30, 2020
re: #215 BeachDem
I have watched it several times and also Freedom Summer. Both excellent.
Another great doc is Salute about the 1968 Olympics. It recently became available on Amazon Prime. Highly recommend if you’ve not seen.
“Well am starving for samosas” says wee Honey #janeygodleyvoiceover pic.twitter.com/iVypDIips3
— Janey Godley (@JaneyGodley) May 30, 2020
re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Man, having my committee do their own research to prove my argument would have made writing my dissertation so much easier.
Went over 80k karma. Sounds like a good excuse to go out taking photos for awhile.
re: #222 William Lewis
Went over 80k karma. Sounds like a good excuse to go out taking photos for awhile.
I would’ve spent the afternoon out in the big brown Lincoln, but I cracked the thermostat housing yesterday being an idiot, so I’m waiting for the new one to arrive.
re: #222 William Lewis
Went over 80k karma. Sounds like a good excuse to go out taking photos for awhile.
Be sure to post some when you get back.
re: #217 William Lewis
The Russian’s were flabbergasted by the shuttle. They knew the numbers; they knew it couldn’t work. Hell, they tried to sort of build something that might be closer to working in Buran but dropped it after one unmanned flight. It was just too expensive for civilian launches and they had better military boosters.
Just like us. But we had to keep the shuttle going because of how crippled the development system had become and we kept going till the second was lost and that made it obvious that it had to go.
I’m not sure today’s launch is really any better. We should have been doing far more research on aerospike based engines and SSTO concepts.
That’s because the SST as it eventually became was totally separated from what NASA had originally envisioned. They were looking at something like what the ESA eventually proposed in their Hermes concept: A small, mostly-reusable project that would launch atop a “cheap” commercial rocket and carry several humans and/or cargo. But between the economic crapping out in the 70s, the post-Apollo malaise, and the allure of “cheap” programs like Viking and Voyager meant manned spaceflight was seen as a waste of funds.
Enter the Air Force, which loved the proposal NASA sold them of the SST as a platform for recon or even covert satellite launches. But that meant turning the small cargo hauler into a “space U-haul,” which meant bigger rockets, more fuel, and a sturdier design. Then the USAF gave up on the whole thing, which left NASA with a white elephant that they had to sell to the Reaganites as one part of a two-part program (the other being “Space Station Alpha”) to show up the Soviet efforts with their Salyut space station program.
Seriously WTF Is WRONG with him? pic.twitter.com/Qt8ckrlF4h
— Carlolol (@Carlolol2) May 30, 2020
he’s like that tall balloon guy that twists and flops in the breeze at used car lots
When you see him from the back you can see the struts and rigging.
They made sure to tell them “DONT YOU EVER STEP A FOOT BACK IN MINNEAPOLIS AGAIN DO YOU HEAR ME??” “YOUVE NEVER BEEN HERE BEFORE WHY DO YOU COME TO THUS NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOT? WOULD YOU DO THAT IN UR HOMETOWN??” No? WHAT MAKES U THINK ITS OK TO DO THAT HERE?!?
— cub (@AthenaCloud) May 30, 2020
re: #219 Teddy’s Person
Another great doc is Salute about the 1968 Olympics. It recently became available on Amazon Prime. Highly recommend if you’ve not seen.
Will definitely check it out. Thanks.
re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Fuckin’ Sconnies! GO HOME! My home is not your battleground to play cops and robbers and get hammered!
Yeah, I should probably say aloud that I did a research project on the SST for my astronomy class in college, and reading the nitty gritty on the early days of the project really killed a lot of the childhood luster I had for the whole thing. Especially when you consider how many other programs and proposals got shit-canned to keep that whole thing going. We could have had men orbiting Venus or on Mars, but instead we got a program that never lived up to its promises and only kept going because “We paid for it, gotta get some use out of it.”
re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth
He’s probably pissed that they wouldn’t let him push the launch button.
This is why I love Diane the best.
Also, she’s a really excellent writer. https://t.co/KuRmYPOO9b— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) May 30, 2020
Lovely sentiment. But for this to happen a solitary NFL owner would have to be something more than a craven, grasping moneysuck and the league commissioner’s tongue momentarily unattached from the dry husks that are gray, shriveled testes of the owners. Odds, formidable. https://t.co/mUlFHdVqFI
— David Simon (@AoDespair) May 30, 2020
Woopsie!! #phillyprotest pic.twitter.com/uKzXmuuKqA
— JanieBlue2 🌊💙☮️ (@Blue2Janie) May 30, 2020
re: #236 Teddy’s Person
Hmm. They maybe from Philly and it maybe from the Super Bowl “celebration” but the shots are too closely cropped for me to make out anything recognizable in the background.
re: #236 Teddy’s Person
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Meanwhile, I sit here and remember the pics of Lexington after the Wildcats won their last NCAA championship, which included couches set ablaze and a cop car overturned. Or, as the wingnuts defended such, “youthful exuberance.”
re: #238 Targetpractice
Meanwhile, I sit here and remember the pics of Lexington after the Wildcats won their last NCAA championship, which included couches set ablaze and a cop car overturned. Or, as the wingnuts defended such, “youthful exuberance.”
Burning couches seems to be the go to for celebrating college wins. I remember one when I was at U of O in Eugene and another time at Penn State in State College.
This is the front page of the Inky online: inquirer.com
It looks like there are a lot of things going on and I am thankful to be in Northeast Philly.
re: #223 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
I would’ve spent the afternoon out in the big brown Lincoln, but I cracked the thermostat housing yesterday being an idiot, so I’m waiting for the new one to arrive.
Damn, what’s with you and cooling systems?!
You could just take a pic from any major sportsball post-championship celebration and odds are people could be fooled into thinking its a pic from the riots in recent days.
re: #238 Targetpractice
Meanwhile, I sit here and remember the pics of Lexington after the Wildcats won their last NCAA championship, which included couches set ablaze and a cop car overturned. Or, as the wingnuts defended such, “youthful exuberance.”
I lived about 6 blocks from that neighborhood and cut through it on either my walk or bicycle ride to work each day. Dudebro slum.
And I walked through smoke during the daytime as they were lighting shit on fire on another occasion of “victory.” No cops at that time.
— ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) May 30, 2020
“Do your own research” is Q speak for watch some clowns YouTube channel so you understand that 2 + 2 = Purple.
— Yeah Sure WTF Ever (@YeahSureWhatev2) May 30, 2020
re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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Before I looked closer, I genuinely thought that pic was one of a circuit board. Mein Gott, am I ever glad I gave up on conspiracy theories years ago.
re: #241 Shropshire Slasher
Damn, what’s with you and cooling systems?!
It’s a lot better than me and exhaust systems. I don’t do exhaust systems, and there’s a reason why. Two words: Acetylene. Torch.
re: #98 calochortus
The comments in the YouTube of it say it’s Church of God. Still, the Amish were known abolitionists so this would not be unheard of for them.
re: #237 PhillyPretzel
Hmm. They maybe from Philly and it maybe from the Super Bowl “celebration” but the shots are too closely cropped for me to make out anything recognizable in the background.
The only source I can find for that “montage” is unsourcednews dot com, a satire site that describes itself as
Unsourced News was founded by a trio of mediocre comedy writers from New York whose heads were about to explode from all the nonsense they were reading in the daily news. Call it venting, but UN now boasts a network of over two daily readers and nearly four subscribers.
There are some other pics at news sites of after Super Bowl crap in Philly, but haven’t found a legit source for those pics.
re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth
KAGA (Keep America Great Again), which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, has a lot of signage down here in Texas.
re: #244 Ace-o-aces
Beavis & Butthead, Riot Tourists.
re: #240 PhillyPretzel
This is the front page of the Inky online: inquirer.com
It looks like there are a lot of things going on and I am thankful to be in Northeast Philly.
The march and protest including the burning cars were only a few blocks from where I used to live in Center City.
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