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Sherlock Hound  May 30, 2020 • 10:03:08am

FUCK TRUMP!

He’s watching the (reattempted) launch in Florida. Several people have suggested in thread that he be on the rocket. I concur.

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LadyBehir  May 30, 2020 • 10:04:01am

aw dang. I wanted to say FUCK TRUMP.

I guess I don’t have to be first to say it.

FUCK TRUMP.

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BigPapa  May 30, 2020 • 10:04:58am

That plunger mic sounds AMAZING

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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 10:05:01am

re: #2 LadyBehir

aw dang. I wanted to say FUCK TRUMP.

I guess I don’t have to be first to say it.

FUCK TRUMP.

Say it loud and say it often is my motto. Fuck Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2020 • 10:05:54am

Lots of noise in the neighborhood last night and into the early morning. I finally got some sleep, woke up at 930 to find out 500 people arrested so far in Los Angeles and more demonstrations going on.

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PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2020 • 10:06:07am

I am not thinking of DT at the moment because I have Julia Child on the TV. The show is called Julia Child Best Bites. It is a re-run but like most shows on PBS are great.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 10:06:12am

re: #1 Sherlock Hound

FUCK TRUMP!

He’s watching the (reattempted) launch in Florida. Several people have suggested in thread that he be on the rocket. I concur.

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So he’s in Florida playing pretend Space Force while my city is BURNING. Fuck Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2020 • 10:06:23am

re: #1 Sherlock Hound

FUCK TRUMP!

He’s watching the (reattempted) launch in Florida. Several people have suggested in thread that he be on the rocket. I concur.

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The prick should be UNDER the fucking rocket as it blasts off…

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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2020 • 10:10:25am

re: #1 Sherlock Hound

FUCK TRUMP!

He’s watching the (reattempted) launch in Florida. Several people have suggested in thread that he be on the rocket. I concur.

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It’s my understanding that Mars needs colonists. He can be launched there and then he can be the very first President of Mars. He’ll have the whole planet, all to himself!

Well…..for a little while, at least. Until his supplies run out. 😁

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2020 • 10:10:42am
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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2020 • 10:11:03am
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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 10:12:14am

If Trump can’t get to his rallies, he’ll bring his MAGAt rallies to the White House.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 10:13:43am
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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 10:14:16am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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Getting in that first Fuck Trump is really a thrill.

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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 10:15:49am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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If the rest of that history holds true (FDR won big in November), we’re looking at some good news in November.

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Citizen K  May 30, 2020 • 10:16:04am
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LadyBehir  May 30, 2020 • 10:16:05am

FUCK TRUMP

Couldn’t read all of the previous post’s comments - did you guys know that the flippin’ AMISH are protesting?

The Amish join protest for BLM in Minneapolis, Minnesota demanding justice for George Floyd

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 10:18:12am

re: #17 LadyBehir

FUCK TRUMP

Couldn’t read all of the previous post’s comments - did you guys know that the flippin’ AMISH are protesting?

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Yeah, I saw that yesterday sometime. It’s not unheard of - they have their own concerns and passions - but it is very deeply touching that they are getting involved.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2020 • 10:18:44am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2020 • 10:20:15am

re: #14 Teddy’s Person

Getting in that first EVERY SINGLE Fuck Trump is really a thrill.

every last one!

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 10:20:28am

re: #12 Teddy’s Person

If Trump can’t get to his rallies, he’ll bring his MAGAt rallies to the White House.

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No, Donald, that was last night as well.

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Charmingly Persistent  May 30, 2020 • 10:21:39am

I posted this in like a two day old thread, LOL

re: #92 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

We’re going to be lucky if we continue to have a free world.

If we’re lucky we’ll get to be the world’s prodigal son when Biden is elected.

re: #332 Charmingly Persistent

I feel like we already got that when Obama was elected after W Bush. If I were the world I wouldn’t have any trust or even optimism going forward.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 10:22:44am
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plansbandc  May 30, 2020 • 10:23:06am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

He might actually watch that instead of Fox. Though more likely, he’ll down a pile of Big Macs and watch it ON Fox. No need to waddle to the window when his Fox Friends have it covered.

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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 10:23:33am

Meanwhile, the legally-sanctioned looting continues apace.

In total, America’s billionaires’ wealth grew about 15% while no fewer than 40.5 million American workers filed for unemployment benefits. Source: Daily Kos

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2020 • 10:23:45am

re: #16 Citizen K

Absolutely heartbreaking. Absolutely.

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Mattand  May 30, 2020 • 10:24:19am

For everyone who says to me, “Rioting is just wrong. Violence is never the answer”, I”m responding with “Maybe if the police stopped executing minorities in the street, there’ll be less riots.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2020 • 10:24:27am

re: #16 Citizen K

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Every day at work I hear callers who love to use the “N” word like the dam is broke. And I remind those ignorant crackers that we record every call. A lot of them say they are glad that the calls are recorded because they want to be on God’s side—the white side…and they’re to stupid to realize they’re screaming at a Jew…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 10:24:54am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Can you see why I adore the guy? I wasn’t sure on him when he was elected, but his response to the pandemic - and now this - have really sold me. Dude’s got my support for a while.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 30, 2020 • 10:25:04am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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I do take some pride in promoting the Fuck Trump at the top of the thread. Not my most important work, but it times like these…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2020 • 10:25:06am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2020 • 10:25:57am

re: #16 Citizen K

Damn put that behind private tags

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 10:27:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 10:28:52am

crybaby

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2020 • 10:28:59am

re: #32 Shropshire Slasher

Damn put that behind private tags

No.

It needs to be seen.

It needs to be exposed.

It needs to be rebuked the way Jason Johnson did.

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BigPapa  May 30, 2020 • 10:29:34am

re: #32 Shropshire Slasher

Damn put that behind private tags

It’s nasty. Vile. But we need to bear witness.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 10:30:04am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

crybaby

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You want to be Presidential? Get your ass up here. Take a walk down Lake Street. See the damage that YOUR PEOPLE are doing to MY CITY. Have some goddamned compassion and empathy for once in your guilt-ridden, corruption-stained, fat-cat-lazy-ass life.

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retired cynic  May 30, 2020 • 10:32:11am

driftglass goes after David Brooks again: When Beltway Pundits Dream, They Dream of Imaginary Lincoln

When he really settles into the saddle, he doesn’t spare the words, so it is long, but really gets into the meat of it about halfway through or so.

What’s appalling is that Very Serious Beltway Pundits like David Brooks have no love for the actual Lincoln. The guy who is buried two miles from my front door. Instead, they love their imaginary Lincoln just as they love their imaginary Reagan.

… Their imaginary Lincoln is a Lincoln without Shiloh or Cold Harbor. A Lincoln without the Wilderness or Vicksburg or the Shenandoah Valley.

Their Lincoln is two-dimensional caricature of the actual Lincoln. A gentle redeemer and uniter, and not the man who went through just about every general in the Union Army until he found one that would do what needed to be done: crush the Confederacy completely, regardless of the cost. One that would bomb their cities, burn their crops, slaughter their armies and starve their citizens until, at last, their will to make a traitor’s war against the United States was broken and they finally gave up.

There is no place in Mr. Brooks’ gauzy cartoon version of American history for a Lincoln who recognized a mortal threat to the nation coming from a despicable confederacy of its own citizens, and who ruthlessly used every bloody means at his disposal to utterly destroy that threat. No place in his idylls for a Lincoln who offered reunion and reconstruct to the South only after they had been beaten to their knees and forced to accept surrender or face extinction. …

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BigPapa  May 30, 2020 • 10:32:26am

We’re very close to a MAGAt actually shooting protesters with his AR which will open another whole Pandora’s Box with the Fascist in Chief.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 10:32:27am

Yes, I’m spitting a little fire today. I’ve recovered from the initial shock and I am mad. Mad at Trump and his humpers, mad at people who think this is a fine place to come and brawl, mad at the apathetic whitewashed crowd who use the violence to excuse their inaction on critical matters of social justice. Fuck ALL those assholes in particular. PEOPLE ARE DYING. The Mississippi runs red with fire and blood. Now is not the time to make excuses and do nothing!

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LadyBehir  May 30, 2020 • 10:33:28am

re: #32 Shropshire Slasher

I understand why you would want that behind private tag but I think doing so somehow sanitizes it. Rot needs to be exposed and having the light of day disinfect it.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2020 • 10:34:36am
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Teukka  May 30, 2020 • 10:35:03am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2020 • 10:36:49am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

crybaby

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RATINGS. This fucking fuck is talking about ratings. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

There’s not enough swear words in all the languages in Earth to convey my anger.

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Citizen K  May 30, 2020 • 10:36:57am

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

No.

It needs to be seen.

It needs to be exposed.

It needs to be rebuked the way Jason Johnson did.

re: #36 BigPapa

It’s nasty. Vile. But we need to bear witness.

Agreed. We need to see how open it is now, how casual it is now, because that’s what’s happening. People are emboldened to sling it out because they feel empowered by it. They feel that between Trump empowering and enabling the entrenched power structures behind this, and the pain and outrage rising up like a geyser from black communities, they feel the need to bludgeon black people like this to ‘show their place’. Ignoring it or hiding it doesn’t change that this is happening, and more gleeful than ever.

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BigPapa  May 30, 2020 • 10:37:00am

Trump says ‘MAGA loves black people.’ As if MAGA and black folk are two distinct constituencies. Telling.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2020 • 10:37:25am

re: #32 Shropshire Slasher

Damn put that behind private tags

#DontLookAway

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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 10:37:49am

re: #44 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

RATINGS. This fucking fuck is talking about ratings. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

There’s not enough swear words in all the languages in Earth to convey my anger.

We need to makeup some new ones.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2020 • 10:38:30am

re: #39 BigPapa

We’re very close to a MAGAt actually shooting protesters with his AR which will open another whole Pandora’s Box with the Fascist in Chief.

Motherfucker couldn’t handle a recoil from a water pistol.

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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2020 • 10:39:32am

Some photos of the aftermath of the riots in Portland overnight:

Imgur

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 10:40:27am

re: #48 Teddy’s Person

We need to makeup some new ones.

The Scots can help with that

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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2020 • 10:40:59am

re: #50 Dr Lizardo

Nevermind. Can’t get the Imgur link to work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 10:44:27am

thread

includes this:

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retired cynic  May 30, 2020 • 10:45:14am

Trump stands with DeVos, vetoes measure to overturn her controversial student loan forgiveness rule, WaPo

President Trump on Friday vetoed a bipartisan resolution to overturn a policy that makes it tougher for students who say they were defrauded by colleges to have their federal education loans canceled.
In rejecting the measure Friday, Trump called it “a misguided resolution that would increase costs for American students and undermine their ability to make choices about their education in order to best meet their needs.”
Although the White House had long signaled the move, veterans groups that strongly oppose the regulation had implored Trump to stand with members of the military who they say are routinely preyed upon by unscrupulous schools for their lucrative GI Bill education benefits.
In the lead-up to Memorial Day, veterans groups ran advertisements on Fox News urging Trump to support the congressional resolution. But siding with veterans would have forced Trump to abandon the longest-serving member of his Cabinet: Education Secretary Betsy DeVos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 10:45:47am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2020 • 10:46:15am

re: #17 LadyBehir

They don’t look Amish

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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 10:46:50am

re: #56 Shropshire Slasher

They don’t look Amish

I think they are Mennonites.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 10:48:16am
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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2020 • 10:48:17am

re: #57 Teddy’s Person

I think they are Mennonites.

You can’t trust those shifty Mennonites.

/
Simpson’s quote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 10:49:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 10:51:08am
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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 10:52:24am

I grew up in area with a substantial Amish community. During college, my younger brother delivered pizzas. He loved delivering to the Amish. They were big tippers. He tells the story of one delivery where an older man was on the front porch smoking a pipe. My brother took the pizza inside, and when he came out, the older gentleman asked if they tipped him enough and handed him a ten spot.

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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 10:53:19am

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Trump campaign’s outreach to African-American voters continues to be a dumpster fire.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 10:54:04am

Cincinnati OTR today:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 10:54:27am

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The violence isn’t in reaction to George Floyd, it’s right-wing ratfucking and YOU NEED TO OWN IT. FUCK YOU.

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steve_davis  May 30, 2020 • 10:54:34am

In a stunning upset, Hikaru Nakamura, an American Super GM, just defeated the world champion Magnus Carlsen in match play to advance to the finals of an online knockout tournament. No, it isn’t the world championship, but I’m guessing Carlsen hasn’t lost an actual match in 5 years, at least.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2020 • 10:56:03am

Got another pair of messages from Los Angeles DSA that the Boogaloos and Proud Boys are instigating actions in Los Angeles today. There are demonstrations going on at Pan Pacific Park and Mariachi Plaza being targeted by those cracker thugs.

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 10:58:09am
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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 10:59:12am

re: #67 Joe Bacon 🌹

Got another pair of messages from Los Angeles DSA that the Boogaloos and Proud Boys are instigating actions in Los Angeles today. There are demonstrations going on at Pan Pacific Park and Mariachi Plaza being targeted by those cracker thugs.

It sounds like a lot of people need to get together and surround them and keep them from doing anything.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 30, 2020 • 11:01:22am
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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 11:02:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2020 • 11:02:48am

re: #70 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

The US Secret Service confirms DC police were on the scene despite the president’s false claim below

I do hope that Twitter takes him to task on that one…

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DodgerFan1988  May 30, 2020 • 11:06:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 11:08:04am
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Sherlock Hound  May 30, 2020 • 11:08:28am

It doesn’t matter if I “condone” rioting. Things happen whatever I might think of theml

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 11:14:10am
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Sherlock Hound  May 30, 2020 • 11:20:37am

In Minneapolis, the cops are the problem. My surprise, let me show you it…

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Jay C  May 30, 2020 • 11:32:09am

re: #73 DodgerFan1988

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Bullshit argument indeed: a quick google of the Tony Timpa case (from Dallas in 2016) reveals it to be a horrible tragedy - very much like the George Floyd incident - poor dumb schmuck ends up in police hands; dies - while the cops joke around - and they walk, even after indictment, because the DA drops it.
I’m not sure what Walsh’s point is here (outside of racist assholery) - no riots? WTF? It’s cases like Tony Timpa’s that deserve protests: maybe his family/friends/community were just deluded into assuming that “justice” would eventually get done.

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mmmirele  May 30, 2020 • 11:37:06am

Writer Linda Tirado has been in Minneapolis covering the situation and got hit in the face by a tracer round or rubber bullet last night. Her tweets are behind the button, but the tl;dr is she lost the sight in her eye but she doesn’t have COVID-19.

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sagehen  May 30, 2020 • 11:40:14am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

crybaby

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um… no. not really.

they suggested that Russia Russia Russia is a possibility; but home-grown American Nazis and White Supremecists and 4-Chan are very much on the suspect list. It’s definitely not Black Lives Matter; they’re the ones trying to identify and stop the provocateurs.

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 11:40:16am

43 minutes until launch.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  May 30, 2020 • 11:42:06am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pretty much he’s openly inviting his “Proud Boys” brownshirts to come in to disrupt any protestors outside the White House.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2020 • 11:42:26am

re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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My Grandfather was among those gassed by MacArthur in 1932. He NEVER forgave MacArthur for that heinous action and he popped open a magnum of champagne when MacArthur died.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 30, 2020 • 11:44:55am

In a better world, this would be a normal late spring weekend and the big news of the day would be Americans going back into space for the first time in years.

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Jay C  May 30, 2020 • 11:45:21am

re: #81 Belafon

T-40: it was funny watching the astronauts just lounging around: I guess they’re moving now: looks like the weather will finally be cooperating today….

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 11:47:04am

NASA just said the weather is a go.

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sagehen  May 30, 2020 • 11:51:02am

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2020 • 11:51:49am

I felt like I needed to rewatch the 1965 Baldwin-Buckley debate this morning. I had to hear Baldwin speaking after the events of last night. His speech to the Oxford Union is more powerful now than it was then. I made a LGF page with a link to the debate. If you have never seen it before, I ask that you watch and see Baldwin in all his power denounce injustice while Buckley feebly tries to counter.

Never forget that Buckley defended segregation here in America and especially in South Africa.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  May 30, 2020 • 11:52:39am

newsflash:

pepperoni pizza puts blood iron levels over the top

blood bank takes a pint

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2020 • 11:52:51am
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jaunte  May 30, 2020 • 11:53:40am
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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  May 30, 2020 • 11:53:41am

Assuming that they are going with a 2-man crew due to it being a simple orbital flight instead of docking with the ISS. Last time we had that was on then final Gemini 12 launch back in 1966 when Buzz Aldrin and Jim Lovell conducted multiple EVAs as practice runs for Apollo flights.

edit: scratch that part about ISS, apparently they are docking.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2020 • 11:53:43am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

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Note who the asshole props in his tweet—Pravda and TASS…

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Citizen K  May 30, 2020 • 11:54:45am

re: #79 mmmirele

Writer Linda Tirado has been in Minneapolis covering the situation and got hit in the face by a tracer round or rubber bullet last night. Her tweets are behind the button, but the tl;dr is she lost the sight in her eye but she doesn’t have COVID-19.

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Oh man. I remember getting a tennis ball smashed into my eye when I was in high school. I still have permanently distorted vision because of scarring, but I was lucky that the tennis ball is soft and has give, even at high velocity. I have no doubt the kind of damage a harder rubber bullet would have. My condolences to her and screw the fucknut that shot her.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 30, 2020 • 11:55:36am

re: #79 mmmirele

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2020 • 11:59:57am
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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2020 • 12:02:10pm
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calochortus  May 30, 2020 • 12:02:44pm

re: #17 LadyBehir

FUCK TRUMP

Couldn’t read all of the previous post’s comments - did you guys know that the flippin’ AMISH are protesting?

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re: #57 Teddy’s Person

Not Amish, probably not Mennonites either. Neither wear ankle length dresses, the women aren’t wearing “coverings” on their heads and while some Mennonite women don’t, those women would be dressed in ordinary street clothes. Also, Amish or super conservative Mennonite men wouldn’t have buttons on their jackets.
Someone is playing dress up.

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:08:35pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

He is so itching to claim credit.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 30, 2020 • 12:09:57pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

At a place where I used to work at, we had unionized security guards. After I had left they went on strike. My former manager sped up into the parking lot at the picketing guards and damn near ran them over.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2020 • 12:11:12pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2020 • 12:11:49pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2020 • 12:13:23pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

This is illegal action. Does posse comitatus not apply?

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2020 • 12:13:25pm

As we reach T-minus 10 min, let us observe Shepard’s Prayer: “Dear Lord, please don’t let me fuck this up.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 30, 2020 • 12:13:43pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

One of my co-worker’s spouses is a National Guardsmen and has been put on a 4-hour deployment notice.

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PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2020 • 12:13:54pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

This reminds me too much of the ‘60’s. Plus throw DT’s supporters into mix and it will be one huge mess.

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plansbandc  May 30, 2020 • 12:14:11pm

The brass astronauts have. I’ve always been in awe.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 30, 2020 • 12:16:26pm

Pro tip-Trump is NOT in the feed from SpaceX

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Jay C  May 30, 2020 • 12:17:09pm

Fascinating: T-7:00 is “engine chill” - they pump liquid helium into the pipes to chill it down for the LOx’ Never knew that….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 12:17:45pm

re: #107 plansbandc

The brass astronauts have. I’ve always been in awe.

“You want me to sit on top of 3 million pounds of high explosives, breathing pure oxygen that could burn me alive, until the whole pile yeets me, 2 other guys, and 3 million more pounds of aircraft-grade aluminum and titanium into the cold hard vacuum of outer space, to the moon, and back again… Where do I sign up?”

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2020 • 12:19:14pm

re: #110 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“You want me to sit on top of 3 million pounds of high explosives, breathing pure oxygen that could burn me alive, until the whole pile yeets me, 2 other guys, and 3 million more pounds of aircraft-grade aluminum and titanium into the cold hard vacuum of outer space, to the moon, and back again… Where do I sign up?”

“Just think, the contract on this thing went to the lowest bidder.”

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:19:15pm

Just saw Trump and Pence at NASA. Someone should tell him that the best view is under the rocket.

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PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2020 • 12:20:17pm

re: #112 Belafon

Just saw Trump and Pence at NASA. Someone should tell him that the best view is under the rocket.

Right under the first stage rockets.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 12:20:20pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

“Just think, the contract on this thing went to the lowest bidder.”

Which is why the Apollo 1 astronauts took the crew photo of them folding their hands in prayer around a mockup of the CSM. No fools, those brave boys.

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:20:56pm

re: #111 Targetpractice

“Just think, the contract on this thing went to the lowest bidder.”

It didn’t during the cold war.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 12:21:11pm

T-minus 2 minutes

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 12:22:23pm

GO FOR LAUNCH

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:22:51pm

30 seconds.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 12:22:57pm

VROOM

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 12:23:39pm

They’re away!

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:24:11pm

The fire is as long as the rocket.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 12:24:32pm

Max-Q

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 12:24:32pm

They’re through max Q. No Challenger today.

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i(m)p(each)sos  May 30, 2020 • 12:25:26pm

You will go to space today!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 12:25:59pm

MECO, stage separation

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 12:26:38pm

2nd stage engine in nominal

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 12:26:43pm

Second stage lit. Now it’s a race against gravity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 12:26:44pm

4,049 mph

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 12:28:21pm

I’m watching a youtube feed that is almost 20 seconds ahead of the TV broadcast

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:29:13pm

They said that the seats are race car seats.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 12:29:15pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

4,049 mph

The target figure is somewhere around 8 km/s for low Earth orbit, which will be around 28,000 km/h as reported on the screen.

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Broad With Sass  May 30, 2020 • 12:29:56pm

It was amazing you could hear the entire neighborhood cheering and chatting while watching the zoom peaking through the clouds

Sonic boom was glorious

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 12:32:29pm

They made it! Nominal orbital insertion!

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:33:18pm

The first stage landed.

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:33:50pm

Dinosaur in space.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 12:34:16pm

re: #135 Belafon

Dinosaur in space.

That cracked me up. Astronauts are some funny creatures.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2020 • 12:34:38pm

re: #106 PhillyPretzel

This reminds me too much of the ‘60’s. Plus throw DT’s supporters into mix and it will be one huge mess.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 12:35:28pm

Dragon has separated from 2nd stage

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jaunte  May 30, 2020 • 12:36:18pm

What did the Village People ever do to deserve this.

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calochortus  May 30, 2020 • 12:37:20pm

re: #137 teleskiguy

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Also disturbing that Trump seems, ummm, really excited at the prospect of violence. Or at least violence he can watch safely because he’s a coward.

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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2020 • 12:37:35pm

re: #139 jaunte

Trump standing there like he’s got a stick up his culu.

LOL

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PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2020 • 12:37:50pm

re: #139 jaunte

I have no idea but if they still have a claim on the music maybe they should sue.

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jaunte  May 30, 2020 • 12:37:56pm

Fucking lickspittle Pence mimicking the Trump stance.

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lizardofid  May 30, 2020 • 12:39:49pm

re: #139 jaunte

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What did the Village People ever do to deserve this.

They cashed the check?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 12:39:54pm

I missed 2nd stage engine shutoff and the 1st stage landing while dealing with maintenance guy snaking out buildings sewer line (again)

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plansbandc  May 30, 2020 • 12:40:37pm

What a remarkable thing to watch. How about that first stage landing perfectly on the drone ship?

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Citizen K  May 30, 2020 • 12:41:25pm

Bill Barr might be the single most loathsome individual in the Maladministration outside of Trump, and perhaps only just behind McConnell overall. What a fucking piece of shit.

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:41:49pm

Maybe it’s sending rockets in space that causes turmoil.

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And my joke is not about the spending of the money, but that we’ve been engineered to stress out when we try to go into space. Our alien creators didn’t want us to leave.

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Jay C  May 30, 2020 • 12:42:16pm

re: #135 Belafon

Dinosaur in space.

I heard it referred to as a “zero-g indicator”: which makes sense: take some tchotchke into the capsule with you, put it on the floor, and when it starts to float: HEY! ZERO-G!!
Low-tech, but I guess it works…..

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 30, 2020 • 12:43:40pm

Goddamn Bridenstene is such a Trump today.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 12:44:26pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I missed 2nd stage engine shutoff and the 1st stage landing while dealing with maintenance guy snaking out buildings sewer line (again)

I missed the landing bit, they showed the platform and I looked away and when I looked back, hey, there’s the first stage sitting perfectly on the deck!

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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 12:44:35pm

re: #139 jaunte

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What did the Village People ever do to deserve this.

I will never not be amused when conservatives rock out to the Village People.

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:46:25pm

On the science channel, they said the capsule has finger rests up by the screens so that they don’t have to hold their arms up the whole time.

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i(m)p(each)sos  May 30, 2020 • 12:46:38pm

Goddamnit when did NASA TV become OANN?

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Nojay UK  May 30, 2020 • 12:47:04pm

re: #149 Jay C

It’s a regular thing in the Soyuz capsules, a stuffed toy or similar is dangled from the overhead and when it starts floating the crew know they’re in free-fall.

Sadly the SpaceX folks don’t seem to carry out the other Soyuz tradition of having the astronauts pee on the rocket transporter on the way to the pad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 12:47:32pm
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plansbandc  May 30, 2020 • 12:48:19pm

The Right Stuff is one of my absolute favorite movies of all time. I may just have to watch it today in celebration of this launch.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 12:48:26pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

What exactly does he think we’re doing, sitting around picking daisies? How do you think we KNEW that our enemies came from out of state? We arrested their asses! In short: Shut the fuck up, Donnie, you’re out of your element.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 30, 2020 • 12:48:34pm

Not watching NASA interviews, guessing from comments there’s a lot of Trump praise going on.
Remember, this flight was contracted in 2014

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:49:14pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

The good Bishop isn’t having any of it either:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 12:49:52pm
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Targetpractice  May 30, 2020 • 12:51:35pm

re: #159 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Not watching NASA interviews, guessing from comments there’s a lot of Trump praise going on.
Remember, this flight was contracted in 2014

CCDev started in 2010, and the contract was signed with SpaceX in 2014. But sure, let’s credit this to the asshole who just happened to be in office when it all came to fruition.

Guess NASA forgot that the last time they did that, the asshole (Nixon) went on to cut the manned spaceflight budget because we’d “beaten” the Soviets to the Moon and thus needed those funds for things like carpet-bombing goat trails in the Far East.

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jaunte  May 30, 2020 • 12:52:48pm
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teleskiguy  May 30, 2020 • 12:52:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 12:53:12pm
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lizardofid  May 30, 2020 • 12:53:51pm

re: #150 Eric The Fruit Bat

Goddamn Bridenstene is such a Trump today.

Crowing about Trump “layin it on the line” with the promise of putting men returning to the moon in 8 years (from inaugural address).

JFK set a pretty high standard in goal setting.

(just my opinion)

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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2020 • 12:54:32pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

Think where we’d be by now if Nixon hadn’t cut NASA’s budget.

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:54:33pm

Is the internet identifying the white people caught breaking stuff?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 12:54:35pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2020 • 12:54:52pm

re: #157 plansbandc

cue Also Sprach Zarathustra. :)
(2001: A Space Odyssey)

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:55:54pm

re: #167 Dr Lizardo

Think where we’d be by now if Nixon hadn’t cut NASA’s budget.

We’d all be talking about Reagan cutting the budget, though if nothing else about history was different it probably would have been Carter due to the recession.

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Greup  May 30, 2020 • 12:56:13pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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I seem to remember that the phrase was “Frist” after Bill Frist.

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plansbandc  May 30, 2020 • 12:57:07pm

re: #170 PhillyPretzel

Oh yes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 12:57:30pm

wut??

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2020 • 12:58:31pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You know that fat fuck won’t lift a finger when it comes to his Boogaloo or Proud Boys pals!

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Belafon  May 30, 2020 • 12:59:04pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

wut??

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 12:59:22pm
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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2020 • 12:59:31pm

re: #171 Belafon

We’d all be talking about Reagan cutting the budget, though if nothing else about history was different it probably would have been Carter due to the recession.

Yeah, that’s a good point. Sooner or later, someone would’ve made the cuts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:04:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:06:56pm
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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 1:08:27pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This reminds me of a scene in the documentary Freedom Riders. John Seigenthaler (special assistant to RFK) is featured in the doc as he was the administration’s point man for the Freedom Riders. In the doc, Seigenthaler talks about getting a call from RFK, after the first wave of riders, asking him who the hell was Diane Nash. Nash was an organizer for the second wave of riders. Seigenthaler was tasked with calling her to talk her out of the second wave, telling her people were going to get killed. She responded that she (and the riders) knew and that had all prepared their wills the night before. I use this doc in my teaching so I’ve seen him describe this many times. It brings tears to my eyes every damn time. College students writing their wills.

If you’ve not seen the documentary, it’s very good.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 30, 2020 • 1:08:51pm

The Military does NOT have unlimited power you malignant shitweasel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:09:10pm
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William Lewis  May 30, 2020 • 1:11:58pm

re: #167 Dr Lizardo

Think where we’d be by now if Nixon hadn’t cut NASA’s budget.

Mondale murdered the space program. That’s why I could not bring myself to vote for him even though it was for Reagan’s second term.

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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 1:12:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:12:38pm
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Sherlock Hound  May 30, 2020 • 1:12:48pm

re: #178 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, that’s a good point. Sooner or later, someone would’ve made the cuts.

Walter Mondale had a grudge against NASA over the Apollo 1 disaster. I was convinced he would end the space program if he was elected in 1984. In that time period, the idea that we should “spend the money on Earth instead!” was really prevalent. Stonekettle’s thread is just a faint reflection of those times. The late Carl Sagan even lobbied against the International Space Station at one point; its appropriation passed Congress by ONE vote.

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Broad With Sass  May 30, 2020 • 1:13:10pm

all i keep thinking about is this
Dr Who Dinosaur on a spaceship

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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2020 • 1:14:41pm

re: #187 Sherlock Hound

Walter Mondale had a grudge against NASA over the Apollo 1 disaster. I was convinced he would end the space program if he was elected in 1984. In that time period, the idea that we should “spend the money on Earth instead!” was really prevalent. Stonekettle’s thread is just a faint reflection of those times. The late Carl Sagan even lobbied against the International Space Station at one point; its appropriation passed Congress by ONE vote.

Interesting - I didn’t know that.

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danarchy  May 30, 2020 • 1:15:36pm

re: #151 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I missed the landing bit, they showed the platform and I looked away and when I looked back, hey, there’s the first stage sitting perfectly on the deck!

The feed from the barge cut off as the landing happened, seems to do that seems to happen on most of the barge landings I have watched.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  May 30, 2020 • 1:16:01pm

re: #167 Dr Lizardo

Think where we’d be by now if Nixon hadn’t cut NASA’s budget.

Nixon cut the budget of lunar flight, but did at least get the ball rolling in 1972 on funding for the Space Shuttle. However, it wasn’t until Carter came into office to get more than one vehicle into service, when he pushed for Challenger, Discovery and Atlantis in 1979, and of course, the ISS didn’t get funding until 1993 (as the original design for Freedom from the 1980s never got any budgetary commitment).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:17:36pm
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danarchy  May 30, 2020 • 1:18:35pm

re: #187 Sherlock Hound

Walter Mondale had a grudge against NASA over the Apollo 1 disaster. I was convinced he would end the space program if he was elected in 1984. In that time period, the idea that we should “spend the money on Earth instead!” was really prevalent. Stonekettle’s thread is just a faint reflection of those times. The late Carl Sagan even lobbied against the International Space Station at one point; its appropriation passed Congress by ONE vote.

I believe Carl Sagan’s opposition to the space station was that it was so expensive it would strangle NASA’s operating budget for decades. I can’t say he was wrong. Manned space flight has been tethered to low earth orbit ever since and the ROI on the space station is pretty questionable.

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jaunte  May 30, 2020 • 1:20:05pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

SpaceX must have been slowed by the very online pedants.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2020 • 1:22:38pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The US & USSR were cribbing off the Nazis, utilizing leftover A4 (aka V2) rockets and other research left from the war to boost their own programs. Kidnapping/”recruiting” Nazi rocket engineers and offering them “jobs” didn’t hurt either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:22:59pm
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nicdanger  May 30, 2020 • 1:24:16pm

re: #172 Greup

I seem to remember that the phrase was “Frist” after Bill Frist.

As a former regular at “Eschaton” I can confirm that.Used to drive me nutz…

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Sherlock Hound  May 30, 2020 • 1:26:30pm

re: #193 danarchy

I believe Carl Sagan’s opposition to the space station was that it was so expensive it would strangle NASA’s operating budget for decades. I can’t say he was wrong. Manned space flight has been tethered to low earth orbit ever since and the ROI on the space station is pretty questionable.

The ROI on the Shuttle was a horror. But like Shuttle, what the ISS is, and what it does, is incalculable. In other words, one must ask, “ROI compared to what?” We’ve learned a lot even just living in space.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:27:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:28:43pm

re: #198 Sherlock Hound

The ROI on the Shuttle was a horror. But like Shuttle, what the ISS is, and what it does, is incalculable. In other words, one must ask, “ROI compared to what?” We’ve learned a lot even just living in space.

also, ROI doesn’t always require a literal financial profit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:30:21pm
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lizardofid  May 30, 2020 • 1:32:27pm

re: #193 danarchy

I believe Carl Sagan’s opposition to the space station was that it was so expensive it would strangle NASA’s operating budget for decades. I can’t say he was wrong. Manned space flight has been tethered to low earth orbit ever since and the ROI on the space station is pretty questionable.

If memory serves, some of the original Huntsville rocketeers (including an fairly well known German) felt the same way about any manned flight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:32:52pm
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danarchy  May 30, 2020 • 1:32:56pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

also, ROI doesn’t always require a literal financial profit

It isn’t about financial benefit, it is opportunity cost. It is a what if question so we can never really know, but if you had just given the money to NASA and let them decide how to spend it I don’t think the ISS is what would have won. The ISS was a diplomatic/political thing as much as a scientific endeavor.

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Dr Lizardo  May 30, 2020 • 1:34:13pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one Lizards, and stay healthy.

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(((Archangel1)))  May 30, 2020 • 1:36:04pm
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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  May 30, 2020 • 1:36:08pm

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Reminder that this is Trump’s endgame, as evidenced in 2018 when there were coordinated attacks against journalists.

Only a matter of time before they start acting on their fantasies
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Sherlock Hound  May 30, 2020 • 1:37:29pm

re: #204 danarchy

It isn’t about financial benefit, it is opportunity cost. It is a what if question so we can never really know, but if you had just given the money to NASA and let them decide how to spend it I don’t think the ISS is what would have won. The ISS was a diplomatic/political thing as much as a scientific endeavor.

They would have developed Shuttle sooner and tried to save Skylab.
half-snark /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:38:22pm
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Targetpractice  May 30, 2020 • 1:39:43pm

re: #204 danarchy

It isn’t about financial benefit, it is opportunity cost. It is a what if question so we can never really know, but if you had just given the money to NASA and let them decide how to spend it I don’t think the ISS is what would have won. The ISS was a diplomatic/political thing as much as a scientific endeavor.

The ISS is the child of “Space Station Alpha,” which itself was the child of Skylab and other 60s-era proposals for permanent space labs. And “Alpha” itself was NASA giving the Shuttle something to do, as the long list of compromises made to get that off the ground had turned the “reusable orbital U-haul” into a bloated white elephant that they were struggling to justify by the Carter era when programs like Pioneer, Voyager, and Viking were sending back reams of data for a lot less investment. Honestly, if Carter has been reelected or Mondale had been elected, odds are the SST would have been shit-canned after Columbia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:41:41pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  May 30, 2020 • 1:42:55pm

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OOPS! LoL!

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PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2020 • 1:43:29pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

He is absolutely correct. Don’t forget to vote in your state’s Primary and General Election.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:45:52pm
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BeachDem  May 30, 2020 • 1:46:22pm

re: #181 Teddy’s Person

This reminds me of a scene in the documentary Freedom Riders. John Seigenthaler (special assistant to RFK) is featured in the doc as he was the administration’s point man for the Freedom Riders. In the doc, Seigenthaler talks about getting a call from RFK, after the first wave of riders, asking him who the hell was Diane Nash. Nash was an organizer for the second wave of riders. Seigenthaler was tasked with calling her to talk her out of the second wave, telling her people were going to get killed. She responded that she (and the riders) knew and that had all prepared their wills the night before. I use this doc in my teaching so I’ve seen him describe this many times. It brings tears to my eyes every damn time. College students writing their wills.

If you’ve not seen the documentary, it’s very good.

I have watched it several times and also Freedom Summer. Both excellent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:49:55pm
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William Lewis  May 30, 2020 • 1:51:34pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

The ISS is the child of “Space Station Alpha,” which itself was the child of Skylab and other 60s-era proposals for permanent space labs. And “Alpha” itself was NASA giving the Shuttle something to do, as the long list of compromises made to get that off the ground had turned the “reusable orbital U-haul” into a bloated white elephant that they were struggling to justify by the Carter era when programs like Pioneer, Voyager, and Viking were sending back reams of data for a lot less investment. Honestly, if Carter has been reelected or Mondale had been elected, odds are the SST would have been shit-canned after Columbia.

The Russian’s were flabbergasted by the shuttle. They knew the numbers; they knew it couldn’t work. Hell, they tried to sort of build something that might be closer to working in Buran but dropped it after one unmanned flight. It was just too expensive for civilian launches and they had better military boosters.

Just like us. But we had to keep the shuttle going because of how crippled the development system had become and we kept going till the second was lost and that made it obvious that it had to go.

I’m not sure today’s launch is really any better. We should have been doing far more research on aerospike based engines and SSTO concepts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 1:54:31pm
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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 2:04:26pm

re: #215 BeachDem

I have watched it several times and also Freedom Summer. Both excellent.

Another great doc is Salute about the 1968 Olympics. It recently became available on Amazon Prime. Highly recommend if you’ve not seen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 2:04:54pm
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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 2:06:21pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Man, having my committee do their own research to prove my argument would have made writing my dissertation so much easier.

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William Lewis  May 30, 2020 • 2:08:08pm

Went over 80k karma. Sounds like a good excuse to go out taking photos for awhile.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 2:08:43pm

re: #222 William Lewis

Went over 80k karma. Sounds like a good excuse to go out taking photos for awhile.

I would’ve spent the afternoon out in the big brown Lincoln, but I cracked the thermostat housing yesterday being an idiot, so I’m waiting for the new one to arrive.

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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 2:09:22pm

re: #222 William Lewis

Went over 80k karma. Sounds like a good excuse to go out taking photos for awhile.

Be sure to post some when you get back.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2020 • 2:10:22pm

re: #217 William Lewis

The Russian’s were flabbergasted by the shuttle. They knew the numbers; they knew it couldn’t work. Hell, they tried to sort of build something that might be closer to working in Buran but dropped it after one unmanned flight. It was just too expensive for civilian launches and they had better military boosters.

Just like us. But we had to keep the shuttle going because of how crippled the development system had become and we kept going till the second was lost and that made it obvious that it had to go.

I’m not sure today’s launch is really any better. We should have been doing far more research on aerospike based engines and SSTO concepts.

That’s because the SST as it eventually became was totally separated from what NASA had originally envisioned. They were looking at something like what the ESA eventually proposed in their Hermes concept: A small, mostly-reusable project that would launch atop a “cheap” commercial rocket and carry several humans and/or cargo. But between the economic crapping out in the 70s, the post-Apollo malaise, and the allure of “cheap” programs like Viking and Voyager meant manned spaceflight was seen as a waste of funds.

Enter the Air Force, which loved the proposal NASA sold them of the SST as a platform for recon or even covert satellite launches. But that meant turning the small cargo hauler into a “space U-haul,” which meant bigger rockets, more fuel, and a sturdier design. Then the USAF gave up on the whole thing, which left NASA with a white elephant that they had to sell to the Reaganites as one part of a two-part program (the other being “Space Station Alpha”) to show up the Soviet efforts with their Salyut space station program.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 2:10:27pm

he’s like that tall balloon guy that twists and flops in the breeze at used car lots

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jaunte  May 30, 2020 • 2:11:33pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

Potemkin Person.

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jaunte  May 30, 2020 • 2:12:18pm

When you see him from the back you can see the struts and rigging.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 2:12:51pm
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BeachDem  May 30, 2020 • 2:13:44pm

re: #219 Teddy’s Person

Another great doc is Salute about the 1968 Olympics. It recently became available on Amazon Prime. Highly recommend if you’ve not seen.

Will definitely check it out. Thanks.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 2:13:46pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuckin’ Sconnies! GO HOME! My home is not your battleground to play cops and robbers and get hammered!

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2020 • 2:16:48pm

Yeah, I should probably say aloud that I did a research project on the SST for my astronomy class in college, and reading the nitty gritty on the early days of the project really killed a lot of the childhood luster I had for the whole thing. Especially when you consider how many other programs and proposals got shit-canned to keep that whole thing going. We could have had men orbiting Venus or on Mars, but instead we got a program that never lived up to its promises and only kept going because “We paid for it, gotta get some use out of it.”

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Cheechako  May 30, 2020 • 2:18:32pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s probably pissed that they wouldn’t let him push the launch button.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 2:19:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2020 • 2:20:44pm
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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 2:23:40pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2020 • 2:27:33pm

re: #236 Teddy’s Person

Hmm. They maybe from Philly and it maybe from the Super Bowl “celebration” but the shots are too closely cropped for me to make out anything recognizable in the background.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2020 • 2:28:44pm

re: #236 Teddy’s Person

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Meanwhile, I sit here and remember the pics of Lexington after the Wildcats won their last NCAA championship, which included couches set ablaze and a cop car overturned. Or, as the wingnuts defended such, “youthful exuberance.”

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Teddy's Person  May 30, 2020 • 2:30:35pm

re: #238 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, I sit here and remember the pics of Lexington after the Wildcats won their last NCAA championship, which included couches set ablaze and a cop car overturned. Or, as the wingnuts defended such, “youthful exuberance.”

Burning couches seems to be the go to for celebrating college wins. I remember one when I was at U of O in Eugene and another time at Penn State in State College.

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PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2020 • 2:32:21pm

This is the front page of the Inky online: inquirer.com

It looks like there are a lot of things going on and I am thankful to be in Northeast Philly.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 30, 2020 • 2:33:14pm

re: #223 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I would’ve spent the afternoon out in the big brown Lincoln, but I cracked the thermostat housing yesterday being an idiot, so I’m waiting for the new one to arrive.

Damn, what’s with you and cooling systems?!

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2020 • 2:33:18pm

You could just take a pic from any major sportsball post-championship celebration and odds are people could be fooled into thinking its a pic from the riots in recent days.

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2020 • 2:35:26pm

re: #238 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, I sit here and remember the pics of Lexington after the Wildcats won their last NCAA championship, which included couches set ablaze and a cop car overturned. Or, as the wingnuts defended such, “youthful exuberance.”

I lived about 6 blocks from that neighborhood and cut through it on either my walk or bicycle ride to work each day. Dudebro slum.

And I walked through smoke during the daytime as they were lighting shit on fire on another occasion of “victory.” No cops at that time.

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Ace-o-aces  May 30, 2020 • 2:40:59pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 30, 2020 • 2:42:14pm
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Targetpractice  May 30, 2020 • 2:48:13pm

re: #245 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Before I looked closer, I genuinely thought that pic was one of a circuit board. Mein Gott, am I ever glad I gave up on conspiracy theories years ago.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2020 • 2:55:03pm

re: #241 Shropshire Slasher

Damn, what’s with you and cooling systems?!

It’s a lot better than me and exhaust systems. I don’t do exhaust systems, and there’s a reason why. Two words: Acetylene. Torch.

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LadyBehir  May 30, 2020 • 3:01:12pm

re: #98 calochortus

The comments in the YouTube of it say it’s Church of God. Still, the Amish were known abolitionists so this would not be unheard of for them.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2020 • 3:08:39pm

re: #237 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. They maybe from Philly and it maybe from the Super Bowl “celebration” but the shots are too closely cropped for me to make out anything recognizable in the background.

The only source I can find for that “montage” is unsourcednews dot com, a satire site that describes itself as

Unsourced News was founded by a trio of mediocre comedy writers from New York whose heads were about to explode from all the nonsense they were reading in the daily news. Call it venting, but UN now boasts a network of over two daily readers and nearly four subscribers.

unsourcednews.com

There are some other pics at news sites of after Super Bowl crap in Philly, but haven’t found a legit source for those pics.

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Ace Rothstein  May 30, 2020 • 3:08:56pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

KAGA (Keep America Great Again), which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, has a lot of signage down here in Texas.

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jaunte  May 30, 2020 • 3:29:19pm

re: #244 Ace-o-aces

Beavis & Butthead, Riot Tourists.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 30, 2020 • 4:29:14pm

re: #240 PhillyPretzel

This is the front page of the Inky online: inquirer.com

It looks like there are a lot of things going on and I am thankful to be in Northeast Philly.

The march and protest including the burning cars were only a few blocks from where I used to live in Center City.


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Barry McGuire - Eve of Destruction Subscribe to The Best Of for more classic music history, videos and playlists: bit.ly "Eve of Destruction" is a protest song written by P. F. Sloan. Barry McGuire recorded the track in July 1965. It was released by Dunhill ...
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200705It was a good, non exhausting day's work, even though it was 98 degrees when we started. The end of the first game in the series is in sight. We can see the finish line.So everything we do now is ...
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The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - the Danish National Symphony Orchestra (Live) #TheMorriconeDuel #FilmMusicLive #DNSOWant to experience The Danish National Symphony Orchestra live? bit.ly The Good, the Bad and the Ugly Composed by Ennio MorriconeVarious flutes: Hans Ulrik, Russell ItaniVocals: Tuva Semmingsen & Christine Nonbo Andersen In January 2018, The Danish ...
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Charlie Puth - Girlfriend [Official Audio] "Girlfriend" Out Now - charlieputh.lnk.to Text me:[no phone numbers allowed] Subscribe for more official content from Charlie Puth: charlieputh.lnk.to Follow Charliecharlieputh.com facebook.com@charlieputh instagram.comtiktok.comSoundCloud Lyrics: Yeah, tired of this conversationWe didn’t come all this wayTo touch a little, kiss a ...
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Paul Weller - Village - Radio 2 BreakfastPaul Weller performs Village live from his Black Barn studio for the BBC Radio 2 Breakfast show
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Crowded House - Fall at Your Feet (Live From Home, 2020) In the spirit of musical comradeship through isolation, us fellas in Crowded House have created a live version of Fall At Your Feet, captured here in the making at our respective home set ups. Some of the sentiment in ...
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#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200628after the rototilling we tossed several bags of wild flower seeds. thousands and thousands. we'll see what happens with them. we also bought four trees for our anniversary.all natives, good for birds and butterflies. there's a slash pine, a beautyberry ...
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Russian Bounties — Trump Threatens the American Experiment - PRESS RUN Not once has Trump angrily banged a lectern and promised to get to the bottom of the stunning and heartbreaking story that Russian intelligence was paying lucrative bounties for the lives of American troops murdered in Afghanistan. Not once ...
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