Gen. James Mattis Breaks Silence, Denounces Trump as Threat to Constitution

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Like many people (I’m sure) I don’t really understand what took him so long, but Gen. James Mattis has broken his silence tonight to issue a dire warning about the Bunker Baby in the White House: James Mattis Denounces Trump as Threat to Constitution.

As for why he’s speaking out now, I think it boils down to this:

“When I joined the military, some 50 years ago,” he writes, “I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.”

Trump’s perverted use of the military Mattis served his entire life was clearly the final straw.

The complete statement is at The Atlantic.

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665 comments

1
Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:51:55pm

FUCK TRUMP!

2
Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:52:00pm

TUCK FRUMP!

3
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:52:51pm

I am amazed that General Mattis spoke up!

4
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:52:52pm

Not enough yet.

Fuck Trump.

5
PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:53:21pm

DT should fold himself into five corners and put it where the sun does not shine.

6
DodgerFan1988  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:54:03pm
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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:54:16pm

My answer got left at the bottom of the last thread:

?

Big Brother and the Real Estate Holding Company

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:54:56pm

Doomsday Scenario: Mid-October 2020. Trump, badly behind in the polls and clearly at risk of losing the election, decides to start a war/use nukes on a foreign country in a desperate attempt to boost his popularity and try to remain in the White House.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:55:44pm

PMURT KCUF!

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EPR-radar  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:55:57pm

I’d like to see this commendable attitude get into the currently serving senior US military. They should all be able to see what a diseased piece of shit President*-Cadet Bonespurs is by now.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:56:04pm

That’s going to be expensive.

12
retired cynic  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:56:11pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

He’d have to do it before early voting starts, because a bunch of us are champing at the bit!

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:56:39pm

Honestly, I’m just not impressed that Mattis “broke his silence” when it was convenient to do so. Donny’s been trying to wield the DoD as his own private army for awhile now, has tried to start wars that would only get people killed for no discernible gain, and has been shortchanging our vets as he uses them for photo ops. That only now, when his popularity is cratering, does Mattis come out of the shadows to shake his finger.

The time to speak up was when he still had a job and thus had something to lose. Instead, he played politics right up til the day Donny fired him because he realized he wasn’t the General Ripper he desired.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:56:54pm

Thank you, General.

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EPR-radar  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:57:13pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

Doomsday Scenario: Mid-October 2020. Trump, badly behind in the polls and clearly at risk of losing the election, decides to start a war/use nukes on a foreign country in a desperate attempt to boost his popularity and try to remain in the White House.

There is absolutely nothing in Trump’s character or in the GOP that would serve to check this possibility. The only defense is institutional inertia in the senior military brass.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:57:26pm

About time.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:58:10pm

re: #15 EPR-radar

There is absolutely nothing in Trump’s character or in the GOP that would serve to check this possibility. The only defense is institutional inertia in the senior military brass.

I definitely trust the brass more than I do the civilian Trump toadies.

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Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:58:20pm
“Like many people (I’m sure) I don’t really understand what took him so long…”

He’s done it before. People just didn’t listen.

His resignation letter was a fancy way of saying “Trump is a traitor and I’m not helping destroy America anymore.”

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:58:28pm

re: #15 EPR-radar

There is absolutely nothing in Trump’s character or in the GOP that would serve to check this possibility. The only defense is institutional inertia in the senior military brass.

“unusual orders”

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:59:25pm

Donny Trump and the Sycophants

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 3:59:29pm

re: #174 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I think I’m finally broken. I can’t stop crying.

[[[[socially-distanced hugs]]]]

Things are much better now than during the overthrow of Jim Crow. They still need improvement, but much of all the stress comes from an Internet which didn’t exist then, so everything is visible immediately.

If you need a news break take one, but you have many friends here.

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:00:11pm

So, in a chat, I dropped the link, and the Reich wingers - of course - go.
No loyalty. Sad.
My response:
Oh, there is loyalty, just not to Bunker Bitch.
Let me give you a hint of what is at play here…
“I, , promise and affirm by my honor and by my conscience, that I am a trustworthy and faithful citizen of the realm of Finland. I want to serve my country honestly and, to my best ability, seek and pursue her edification and advantage. I want everywhere and in every situation, during peace and during war, defend the inviolability of my fatherland, her legal system of government and the legal authority of the realm. If I perceive or gain knowledge of activity to overthrow the legal authority or to subvert the system of government of the country, I want to report it to the authorities without delay. The troop to which I belong and my place in it I will not desert in any situation, but so long as I have strength in me, I will completely fulfill the task I have received. I promise to act properly and uprightly, obey my superiors, comply with the laws and decrees and keep the service secrets trusted in me. I want to be forthright and helpful to my fellow servicemen. Never will I due to kinship, friendship, envy, hatred or fear nor because of gifts or any other reason act contrary to my duty in service. If I be given a position of superiority, I want to be rightful to my subordinates, to take care of their well-being, acquire information on their wishes, to be their councilor and guide and, for my own self, set them a good and encouraging example. All this I want to fulfill according to my honor and my conscience.”

Just an idea, but responding to those who bemoan the lack of loyalty with the oath military and in the case of Finland, civilan total defence service members swear.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:01:29pm

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:01:35pm

re: #11 Dread Pirate

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That’s going to be expensive.

It’s the Republican way. Rack up an enormous bill for the next administration to pay for.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:02:15pm

re: #24 Teddy’s Person

And then refuse to raise taxes to pay for it.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:02:32pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

Doomsday Scenario: Mid-October 2020. Trump, badly behind in the polls and clearly at risk of losing the election, decides to start a war/use nukes on a foreign country in a desperate attempt to boost his popularity and try to remain in the White House.

Won’t work.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:03:01pm

re: #26 Belafon

Won’t work.

Oh of course not, but it could fuck a lot of shit up.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:04:37pm

re: #20 Teddy’s Person

Donny TrumpFat Don and the Sycophants

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Slight change. 😁

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:04:46pm

Talking Heads did it better.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:04:48pm

re: #17 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I definitely trust the brass more than I do the civilian Trump toadies.

“Befehl ist Befehl.”

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:05:12pm

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

Doomsday Scenario: Mid-October 2020. Trump, badly behind in the polls and clearly at risk of losing the election, decides to start a war/use nukes on a foreign country in a desperate attempt to boost his popularity and try to remain in the White House.

Alternate scenario: Intentionally mishandles a situation which escalates to a foreign country using nukes, using the fallout to try to remain in the White House.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:05:30pm

re: #28 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Slight change. 😁

Big improvement 😎

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:06:24pm

Lincoln Project dropped another incendiary

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:06:29pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh of course not, but it could fuck a lot of shit up.

Gets to what I’ve been saying about how I’m more worried about cleaning up the mess than defeating Trump in himself.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:06:56pm
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Cheechako  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:08:06pm

I wonder how many of the Fed Prison guards brought COVID-19 with them to DC. Many Federal Prisons have been hot-spots for outbreaks.

Here in Juneau, the largest number of those infected in our community were guards at the local State Prison.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:08:25pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

It sounds like Draper is implying that Mattis has the “smoking gun.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:09:59pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[[[[socially-distanced hugs]]]]

Things are much better now than during the overthrow of Jim Crow. They still need improvement, but much of all the stress comes from an Internet which didn’t exist then, so everything is visible immediately.

If you need a news break take one, but you have many friends here.

Thank you. I’m better now. That elephant story gutted me… Like the rotted cherry atop a shit sundae.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:10:01pm

re: #20 Teddy’s Person

Donny Trump and the Sycophants

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Bill looks like he’s got the full Igor look going on.

“What hump?”

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:11:05pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

Is that why he does not have a tie?

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:11:55pm

For the win…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:12:16pm

re: #36 Cheechako

I wonder how many of the Fed Prison guards brought COVID-19 with them to DC. Many Federal Prisons have been hot-spots for outbreaks.

Here in Juneau, the largest number of those infected in our community were guards at the local State Prison.

Ours have been at long-term care facilities. 95% of our victims are over 60, and 80% are over 70.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:12:20pm

RISE UP

Rise Up, Rise Up
It’s time to take a stand
Rise Up, Rise Up
support your fellow man.

The road will not be easy,
the other side is out in force.
But ours is a crucial fight to win
and we’ve got to stay the course.

Rise Up, Rise Up
Take the protest to the street.
Rise Up, Rise Up
Clap your hands and stomp your feet.

We’ve got to make it clear today,
that justice will be served.
Fight the hate in the here and now,
so the future is preserved.

Rise Up, Rise Up
The movement needs your voice,
Rise Up, Rise Up
For those that didn’t have a choice.

Let the world see us, thousands strong
standing shoulder next to shoulder.
Lord, give us courage and give us wisdom
to be louder and be bolder.

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:12:36pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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And, of course, remember this quote as it shows what the other sides think of any whistleblowers that blow whistleys they don’t like:

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:13:00pm

re: #10 EPR-radar

I’d like to see this commendable attitude get into the currently serving senior US military. They should all be able to see what a diseased piece of shit President*-Cadet Bonespurs is by now.

They communicate big time, and no flag officer is ever quite “retired”. Admiral Hopper was recalled ans served into her 80s.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:13:10pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:15:38pm
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Interesting Times  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:16:27pm

This might be the best analysis of Steve King’s “loss” I’ve seen so far:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:16:31pm

re: #47 Patricia Kayden

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I just hope that the parallels don’t continue; I’m not particularly interested in Russian artillery bombarding Washington.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:16:32pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

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So in a year since his last full physical, a man who admits he does not take care of his health and eats a shitload of processed garbage, and is under constant stress from just the traditional duties of the office, has only gained a single pound?

BULLSHIT!

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:16:44pm

re: #22 Teukka

Nods. As I said the other night
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:17:28pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

So in a year since his last full physical, a man who admits he does not take care of his health and eats a shitload of processed garbage, and is under constant stress from just the traditional duties of the office, has only gained a single pound?

BULLSHIT!

And there’s no way he only weighs 244. I weigh 230 and I’m pudgy, but compared to Trump I look like a damn railroad tie. That man can’t weigh less than 260.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:17:39pm

Here’s the problem: It is impossible for the military to step into politics to save the country without destroying the country. Doesn’t work much better for villages either.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:17:51pm

There is no fucking chance in hell Trumps BP is only 121/79 unless he is taking meds to control it.

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:17:57pm

re: #9 Ace Rothstein

PMURT KCUF!

!TNELLECXE!

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:18:00pm

re: #48 Interesting Times

This might be the best analysis of Steve King’s “loss” I’ve seen so far:

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It didn’t really help that they quietly tried to return him to grace just weeks before he lost his bid at another term. Kinda hard to argue that the man was a pariah in the party when the party was ready to embrace him yet again because they thought the row over his latest act of Nazism had blown over.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:19:38pm

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:19:55pm

re: #52 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And there’s no way he only weighs 244. I weigh 230 and I’m pudgy, but compared to Trump I look like a damn railroad tie. That man can’t weigh less than 260.

I’m just a touch over 250lbs myself and just over 5’10”. And I still look healthier than that sack of shit. There is no way in hell he weighs less than I do.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:19:59pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

So in a year since his last full physical, a man who admits he does not take care of his health and eats a shitload of processed garbage, and is under constant stress from just the traditional duties of the office, has only gained a single pound?

BULLSHIT!

The job of POTUS is only stressful if you care. Trump has no conscience, he doesn’t care. I doubt he’s under much stress.

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austin_blue  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:20:06pm

CL’d:

Regarding the guy in crit condition in Austin after being shot in the head by a round meant for someone else;

re: #70 jaunte

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And not the guy they were shooting at.

Another guy took a beanbag round to the forehead. Caved the front of his head in. His sinuses saved him, but he’s still pretty fucked up. The guy in the post took the round in his temple. Egg-shell shattered his skull. Even if he lives, he’ll be pretty much a veg for the rest of his life, say his doctors. Lotta bone splinters deep in his brain.

The beanbag rounds aren’t full of beans. They’re full of lead pellets, are as big as a man’s thumb, unstable, and leave the gun at +850 ft/second.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:20:07pm

re: #9 Ace Rothstein

re: #55 Jay C

Just like luap nor.

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Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:21:04pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

So in a year since his last full physical, a man who admits he does not take care of his health and eats a shitload of processed garbage, and is under constant stress from just the traditional duties of the office, has only gained a single pound?

BULLSHIT!

Aren’t these the same numbers we were given before that are obviously horseshit from one of his paid quacks?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:21:21pm

re: #52 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And there’s no way he only weighs 244. I weigh 230 and I’m pudgy, but compared to Trump I look like a damn railroad tie. That man can’t weigh less than 260.

280 minimum, closer to 300. My ex was 6’1”, 280 and a bit smaller than trump.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:21:57pm
A memo from the President’s physical, Dr. Sean Conley, simply said “there were no findings of significance or changes to report.” CNN

JFC, Trump looks like a heart attack waiting to happen, but by all means Dr. Conley, you do you.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:22:11pm

re: #62 Jack Burton

Aren’t these the same numbers we were given before that are obviously horseshit from one of his paid quacks?

Apparently in the last 2 years, he’s only gained 5 pounds. Perhaps that “half-physical” last year was about evacuating all the accumulated bullshit in his bowels.

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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:22:39pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

TRUMP PHYSICAL: Trump weighs 244 lbs, is 6’3”, blood pressure 121/79 mmHG, resting heart rate 63 bpm

RHR of 63? No fucking way. Men over 65 have a good resting heart rate if it’s in the 70-73 range. 63 is considered “great”. No way he is as close to “athlete” (55 at over 65 yo) as he is to “average”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:22:55pm

re: #63 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

280 minimum, closer to 300. My ex was 6’1”, 280 and a bit smaller than trump.

I was sandbagging a bit because I just don’t know many people that size. Most of them are either shorter than me by a significant proportion, or stupid skinny assholes who can eat whatever they want because they have the metabolism of three men.

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Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:23:11pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

I’m just a touch over 250lbs myself and just over 5’10”. And I still look healthier than that sack of shit. There is no way in hell he weighs less than I do.

Before COVID-19 started I was exactly this both weight and height. Sitting around at home and stress-eating has pushed me up to 265-ish. I still think if you put one of Trumps suits on me I’d at least not look worse.

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Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:23:21pm

re: #174 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I think I’m finally broken. I can’t stop crying.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:23:43pm

re: #59 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The job of POTUS is only stressful if you care. Trump has no conscience, he doesn’t care. I doubt he’s under much stress.

Except when his cowardice kicks in and he’s cowering in the bunker.

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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:23:49pm

re: #52 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And there’s no way he only weighs 244. I weigh 230 and I’m pudgy, but compared to Trump I look like a damn railroad tie. That man can’t weigh less than 260.

I’m in the 265 range, but I’ve got a lot more muscle mass than Trump and I’m 30 years younger than him. If he’s an ounce under 300, I wouldn’t believe it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:24:11pm

For comparison: I’m 35 years old, 6’ 1”, 230 (and still look skinnier than trump), BP 145/90 (with two meds, but I have family history) and RHR of 80. You can’t tell me Donald J. Trump is in better shape than I am. No fucking way.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:24:17pm

re: #68 Jack Burton

Before COVID-19 started I was exactly this both weight and height. Sitting around at home and stress-eating has pushed me up to 265-ish. I still think if you put one of Trumps suits on me I’d at least not look worse.

Well, for one thing, I doubt you have a posture like a half-centaur from constantly walking around with lifts in your shoes to bullshit people that you’re 6’3”.

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plansbandc  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:24:18pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

He’s at least 3 bills. Someone who weighs as much as he does and gets zero exercise other than hauling his fat ass in and out of a golf cart does NOT have a resting heart rate of 63.

JFC with the endless stream of lies.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:25:06pm

re: #327 lawhawk

That’s what’s called a gambion - rock/stone filled metal cage. Chabad set it up to deter against car bombs and terror attacks involving someone attempting to drive into the Chabad.

Chabad agreed to allow LA to remove them - again opening them up to potential terror attack threat.

This is bugnuts insanity, and the GOP and Trumpworld doesn’t care how many lies they spew. Their base doesn’t give a shit.

I figured it was only a matter of time before the White House used that photo.

For the last couple days, liberals have been claiming it was a “cache of bricks” for agitators to use.

The same goes for all the other “piles of bricks” that liberals have been promoting, those photos will be used by reich-wingers as well.

There was a long takedown of a liberal making that claim about a pile of bricks in Charlotte, NC; a person weighed in saying leave the conspiracy theories to wingnuts, or the press can just magic balancefairy it. He then showed the city council notes and contracts that have been in for over a year approving construction in the very area shown, by the city.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:25:16pm

re: #63 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

280 minimum, closer to 300. My ex was 6’1”, 280 and a bit smaller than trump.

At least. I’m 6’ 0” and 325. He’s at least as fat as I am.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:25:23pm

Here come round 2 for the Delaware Valley. There is a lot of rumbling out there. Oh shit we also have a tornado warning.
forecast.weather.gov

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:25:43pm

Yeah, speaking of which, is he 6’3” before or after they had to straight out his spine?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:26:06pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

Yeah, speaking of which, is he 6’3” before or after they had to straight out his spine?

Yeah, I was going to say, pretty sure they had to put him on the rack and use a tape measure.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:26:23pm

re: #66 KGxvi

RHR of 63? No fucking way. Men over 65 have a good resting heart rate if it’s in the 70-73 range. 63 is considered “great”. No way he is as close to “athlete” (55 at over 65 yo) as he is to “average”

It can also be slowing down. At his age, that’s not uncommon. If it goes down far enough, it needs a pacemaker.

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Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:27:14pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

Well, for one thing, I doubt you have a posture like a half-centaur from constantly walking around with lifts in your shoes to bullshit people that you’re 6’3”.

Nope, I definitely don’t look like I have frontotemporal dementia and progressive supranuclear palsy.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:27:31pm
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Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:28:42pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

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They weighed him on an elevator when it first started to move.

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KGxvi  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:28:47pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

Yeah, speaking of which, is he 6’3” before or after they had to straight out his spine?

That’s definitely a self-reported number. There’s plenty of pictures of him with athletes who we know their actual heights to compare. He’s 6’1” at best.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:29:34pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:29:40pm

re: #83 Jack Burton

They weighed him on an elevator when it first started to move.

He was sitting on the scale.

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nowherenorth2  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:30:07pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

I got weigh today and I am 6’2” and weight 326 fully dressed. I also workout at least 3 days a week and powerlift…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:30:13pm

re: #86 stpaulbear

He was sitting on the scale.

Though I am wondering what he might weigh if he isn’t dragging around the giant load in his pants…

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Renaissance_Man  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:31:29pm

re: #74 plansbandc

He’s at least 3 bills. Someone who weighs as much as he does and gets zero exercise other than hauling his fat ass in and out of a golf cart does NOT have a resting heart rate of 63.

JFC with the endless stream of lies.

He does if he’s on a beta blocker, a common blood pressure med.

His height and weight are clearly lies, of course.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:31:40pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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But how can that be when we’ve been repeatedly assured by AG Barr that the only agitators are all left-wing extremists like Antifa?

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:32:19pm

Stockholm, Sweden:

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Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:32:33pm

I really wish someone would ask him on camera: “What’s with the posture? You look like a Centaur who’s had the horse’s ass-removed, and the rest of you is making up for that in more ways than one.”

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Cheechako  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:34:00pm

re: #42 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ours have been at long-term care facilities. 95% of our victims are over 60, and 80% are over 70.

That’s what’s happening in Anchorage. Multiple cases from nursing home affiliated with the major hospital in the city.
If you look at the age grouping chart in the news article the virus is affecting all ages. Looks like a Bell curve.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:34:45pm

This now two threads old:

re: #376 Barefoot Grin

I’ve mentioned it before, but my amp is a Music Man RD-110-50. The 110 means one 10” speaker, and the 50? Well, you can guess. I’ve never been able to turn it past 4. That was in a rehearsal where the other guitar player was being unusually obnoxious with his volume on his Hiwatt. My amp doesn’t work well with my townhouse-share-walls lifestyle. I have to attenuate with pedal volume and/or guitar volume because it’s nearly impossible to get at a decent sound using the amp control.

Have you tried an attenuator? I have a Weber Mini Mass. That way you can get the tubes a little riled up without blowing out the walls, while also keeping the guitar volume turned up so your pedals get hit with max volts. Most of my dirt pedals get a different tone depending on where the guitar’s volume knob is even when the SPL is about the same.
As for cabinet designations, I think you will appreciate how thrilled I was when the bass player in the band I was roadie-ing for acquired a 3620 cabinet.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:34:52pm

Mattis saw this coming and did nothing.

Mattis was part of this admin and enabled Trump and did nothing to stop it.

Mattis was silent after letting thousands die in Puerto Rico because Trump is a white nationalist who doesn’t care how many nonwhite Americans die.

Mattis was silent even as 100,000 Americans died from covid19 and did nothing to mobilize the military’s elite medical units to help combat covid19, help with logistics of delivering ppe and ventilators to states in dire need, coordinate efforts among the states, and to help with testing.

Trump is a fucknut, and the GOP has enabled him for so long that even this half-measure doesn’t cut it.

Is this going to sway anyone? Really? The cult base aren’t going to be moved by any of this, but independents might - and that needs reinforcing.

Trump remains the clear and present danger to the nation - and everyone needs to see it.

His former officials see it. The only ones who don’t are his sycophantic suckups and bigot brigade base.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:34:55pm

Fuck his height, weight and heartrate. He’ll likely live until January.

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gocart mozart  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:36:04pm
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Jack Burton  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:36:20pm

re: #95 lawhawk

Wasn’t Mattis in charge of Jack and Shit when COVID-19 was a thing?

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:36:57pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

Fuck his height, weight and heartrate. He’ll likely live until January.

Seriously, he’s been stomping around for months sans mask around people who have caught Covid-19. Yet, he’s fine. Must be part of the deal he made with the devil.

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gocart mozart  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:37:04pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:37:21pm

re: #97 gocart mozart

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Just love the posture on the one on the left. That look that just says “Really?”

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:39:06pm

re: #94 Jebediah, RBG

This now two threads old:

Have you tried an attenuator? I have a Weber Mini Mass. That way you can get the tubes a little riled up without blowing out the walls, while also keeping the guitar volume turned up so your pedals get hit with max volts. Most of my dirt pedals get a different tone depending on where the guitar’s volume knob is even when the SPL is about the same.
As for cabinet designations, I think you will appreciate how thrilled I was when the bass player in the band I was roadie-ing for acquired a 3620 cabinet.

I have just started researching dedicated attenuators. Most of the ones I’ve checked so far have been out of my price range, but I’ll check it out. And yes, the thing my amp is known for is its chime on clean (I never use the solid state distortion channel—it’s crap) that works well with lots of pedals. Anyway, I’ll check out the Weber Mini Mass. At some point I think I’ll just opt to mothball it and get one of the new small amps with modeling.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:43:21pm

The Greater Philadelphia area has the following:
forecast.weather.gov

We have a very bad storm going through the area.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:47:49pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:49:16pm

re: #103 PhillyPretzel

The Greater Philadelphia area has the following:
forecast.weather.gov

We have a very bad storm going through the area.

Stay safe, my scaly friend.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:50:10pm

re: #105 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It is getting lighter in the west and quieting down a bit.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:54:04pm

The storm seems to be moving to the east and it is calming down now. I think we are going to get a bit more rain too.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:55:31pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:56:18pm

After Joe cleans Donny’s clock in November, it will be interesting to see how much of the never Trumper attitude was personal grievance versus a real opposition to Trump’s policies.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:58:22pm

re: #108 Dread Pirate

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He has the Mandate of Heaven, don’t you know. Divine Right of Kings.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 4:58:55pm
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Charmingly Persistent  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:01:41pm

Really useful map to find police brutality in your area

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makeitstop  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:02:49pm

re: #102 Barefoot Grin

I have just started researching dedicated attenuators. Most of the ones I’ve checked so far have been out of my price range, but I’ll check it out. And yes, the thing my amp is known for is its chime on clean (I never use the solid state distortion channel—it’s crap) that works well with lots of pedals. Anyway, I’ll check out the Weber Mini Mass. At some point I think I’ll just opt to mothball it and get one of the new small amps with modeling.

Modeling is the way to go IMHO. I’ve got a Mooer GE-300 that I use live (into the FX return of the Two Rock), and a Mooer GE-200 for use in the studio. All the balls with as little volume as you’d wish to use.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:04:51pm

re: #109 Teddy’s Person

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After Joe cleans Donny’s clock in November, it will be interesting to see how much of the never Trumper attitude was personal grievance versus a real opposition to Trump’s policies.

Please Republicans, stick with the clown.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:06:16pm
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calochortus  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:06:41pm

re: #110 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He has the Mandate of Heaven, don’t you know. Divine Right of Kings.

He may have the Divine Right of Kings, but the Mandate of Heaven can be lost. That loss is indicated by things going badly wrong in the country. I think we’ve reached that point so we get to proceed with replacing him.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:06:53pm

I think the storm has passed Philly and now is in NJ. Those who live in NJ be careful. This storm is a doozie.
weather.gov

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austin_blue  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:07:34pm

Welp, we no longer have any stadiums in the US to hold the COVID dead. And it’s a significant undercount of the ACTUAL dead.

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:09:57pm

re: #114 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Please Republicans, stick with the clown.

The line “You’re not really sorry. You’re just sorry you got caught” comes to mind.

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stpaulbear  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:10:02pm

re: #94 Jebediah, RBG

A question and a comment:

How do you feel about Ampeg amps. The band I played in after high school had all Ampeg and I loved that sound. Stones were using them at the time and so were Faces. The band I moved onto in the mid 70’s had Marshall 50’s and the tall cabinets. Those were great too but much cleaner sounding in the hands of the guitarists in that band.

I received your masks today. Very nice! Just big enough for my fat head and beard. I like the metal stays at the nose. They’ll be great for runs to the store.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:11:03pm

Hag Ann still fighting the good fight that the 4 LAPD cops who beat up Rodney King are innocent.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:12:06pm

re: #7 KGxvi

My answer got left at the bottom of the last thread:

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Big Brother and the Real Estate Holding Company

Stole my answer:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:12:39pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

Yeah, speaking of which, is he 6’3” before or after they had to straight out his spine?

he has a spine???

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Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:13:26pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

They pulled Lindsey Graham out of his ass and Trump fell over.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:15:04pm

re: #118 austin_blue

Welp, we no longer have any stadiums in the US to hold the COVID dead. And it’s a significant undercount of the ACTUAL dead.

That didn’t take long.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:15:25pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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gocart mozart  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:17:31pm

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:19:11pm

re: #113 makeitstop

Modeling is the way to go IMHO. I’ve got a Mooer GE-300 that I use live (into the FX return of the Two Rock), and a Mooer GE-200 for use in the studio. All the balls with as little volume as you’d wish to use.

I’ll check those out. I was just super excited about the JHS $45 attenuator to only realize after reviews that it only works with newer amps that have FX loop, which my early 1980s amp lacks.

I’ll probably only ever play live once or twice again*, so I need to increasingly think about bedroom recording. But that’s in the future. I finally saved up enough to have my old non-reverse Gibson Firebird III upgraded. The guy won’t be done for two or three months, but it will be at least $600 for a guitar that probably isn’t worth it.

*Planning on a reunion weekend of two gigs in 2022 for the 50th anniversary of my first band’s album release.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:19:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:20:26pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:21:44pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Three Cent”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:25:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:26:59pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:27:14pm
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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:28:30pm

re: #112 Charmingly Persistent

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Really useful map to find police brutality in your area

Or you could call up “Krispy Kreme” on Google Maps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:28:39pm
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plansbandc  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:29:21pm

re: #134 goddamnedfrank

Your neighbor’s house would fit right in in the ABQ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:29:50pm

re: #135 Decatur Deb

Or you could call up “Krispy Kreme” on Google Maps.

Krispy Kreme is giving away free donuts in Cincinnati all week

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:31:28pm


Well, Of Course We Don’t Want Them
(Juanita Jean’s)

Gov. Greg Abbot of Texas says they don’t need any military in Texas, thanks but no thanks Trump.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:31:41pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

Krispy Kreme is giving away free donuts in Cincinnati all week

Pogey Bait.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:32:37pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He can’t even answer softball questions. He lies all the time. How hard would it be to say “it’s deepened my faith” and “I pray once a day”? Both vapid answers, but they at least demonstrate a couple of functioning brain cells.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:33:50pm
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garzooma  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:35:19pm

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We cannot tolerate an American secret police.

Secret state police. Better known as Gestapo.

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Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:36:07pm

Nite nite.

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:36:29pm

re: #143 garzooma

Secret state police. Better known as Gestapo.

Or Stasi. Or Nightwatch.

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plansbandc  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:37:37pm

re: #141 Teddy’s Person

Well, he doesn’t have any functioning brain cells, so…

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:38:13pm

can anybody source this quote?

“a drink as cold and alcoholic as the stepfather in a country and western song”

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:39:56pm

re: #95 lawhawk

Mattis: 3 years with a lack of mature leadership. That’s damning indictment of Mattis. He was there, and did nothing. The reality is that his failures to act to stop Trump years ago are coming back to destroy the nation now.

His silence and assent cost lives.

His silence and assent had deadly consequences is so many ways.

Shredding the constitution and the rule of law, and it took until now for him to see it.

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Cheechako  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:42:07pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

Krispy Kreme is giving away free donuts in Cincinnati all week

Protection insurance.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:42:32pm
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bratwurst  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:43:25pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:45:31pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:45:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:46:08pm
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cat-tikvah  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:48:55pm

re: #7 KGxvi

So did mine:
Cruel and the Gang

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:49:55pm

re: #148 lawhawk

Mattis: 3 years with a lack of mature leadership. That’s damning indictment of Mattis. He was there, and did nothing. The reality is that his failures to act to stop Trump years ago are coming back to destroy the nation now.

His silence and assent cost lives.

His silence and assent had deadly consequences is so many ways.

Shredding the constitution and the rule of law, and it took until now for him to see it.

As Stonekettle noted in the thread with all the conservatives telling him he need to learn about the military (LOL), what makes for a good military officer doesn’t necessarily make for a good politician.

Gen. Mattis was a good Marine general. He was a lousy politician.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:50:21pm

😆

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:52:09pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:52:09pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:54:04pm

re: #159 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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I looked in Dale’s timeline to see if I could fine where Trump was dropping all these pearls of wisdom. All he said was that he was being interviewed by Sean Spicer. My investigation ended there.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:54:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:54:09pm
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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:54:49pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

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garzooma  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:55:12pm

re: #108 Dread Pirate

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Pres. Trump suggests on Fox Radio that there are Good Christians and Bad Christians.

I agree. The Bad Christians assault ordained priests on consecrated ground.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:56:55pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Gen. Mattis was a good Marine general. He was a lousy politician.

He’s also a lousy human being. Too little too late.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:57:34pm

Beautiful

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:58:38pm

re: #160 Teddy’s Person

I looked in Dale’s timeline to see if I could fine where Trump was dropping all these pearls of wisdom. All he said was that he was being interviewed by Sean Spicer. My investigation ended there.

“Why are you so awesome?”

“How lucky are we to have you?”

Fuck.

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makeitstop  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:58:54pm

Hm.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 5:59:28pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:01:03pm

re: #167 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

“Why are you so awesome?”

“How lucky are we to have you?”

Fuck.

And to make it even more fuck-worthy, Trump is incapable of giving any kind of a coherent response to the most basic questions. I think even the query of “why are you so awesome” would be met with Palinesque word salad.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:01:16pm
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cat-tikvah  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:03:06pm

re: #119 Teukka

I am committed to seeing that Senator Pat Toomey (Vichy PA) never holds public office again.
The stain of enabling fascism needs to taint all these enablers until the end of time.
May their children and grandchildren recognize what they did when they could have stood against the assault on freedom, democracy and the rule of law, and view them through that lens.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:03:29pm

re: #168 makeitstop

Hm.

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Par.2 “This shit’s not on me.”

Customary hand-written note on the carefully-staffed letter is the message.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:04:33pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:04:44pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How long before he throws in Erik Prince goons?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:05:47pm
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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:06:14pm

re: #168 makeitstop

Hm.

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Those of us Lizardim which have better memeing capabilities than me at this hour, what about something with a nice backdrop and the full text of the service oath? Repeat for each which is different re: branches of the military and civilian service?

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:07:21pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:07:56pm

Asshole gonna asshole

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:09:20pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gov Justice apparently shares a fashion stylist with Mr Creosote

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:11:48pm

Right in front of the building my office is in. I have never seen the National Guard deployed to Hill street. Not during the 1960’s, I’m told. Certainly not during the DNC or Rodney King riots. But today they are there.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:11:57pm

re: #171 jaunte

I have to say that’s freaking me out a little.

COVID19 is disbursed significantly more through singing. Some are wearing masks but that’s insufficient. Dr. Tam in Canada (basically our Fauci) said not to do this at protests; she wants hand signals. There are too many people too close together.

This all makes me so sad. A global phenomenon to stand side by side with all our brothers and sisters in a time where it might be the most detrimental.

Fuck trump.

Fuck the murderous police.

Fuck Republicans. Fuck the racists (but I repeat myself).

Fuck this virus.

Fuck.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:15:20pm

I went on a fact-checking expidition about Mattis’ nickname and came across this gem:

He was a board member of Theranos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:16:19pm

Charlotte NC

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:16:46pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:17:34pm

Starlink launch

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:19:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:19:09pm

re: #181 Rightwingconspirator

Right in front of the building my office is in. I have never seen the National Guard deployed to Hill street. Not during the 1960’s, I’m told. Certainly not during the DNC or Rodney King riots. But today they are there.

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Yikes. We see those regularly here, but they travel between nuclear missile silos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:19:36pm
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Teddy's Person  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:20:12pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They are all performing for an audience of one now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:21:36pm

re: #187 jaunte

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:21:46pm

re: #187 jaunte

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:24:05pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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IIJM, or has bringing on Kayleigh McEnany as Press Secy completed the transformation of the WH Press office into a meatspace version of something like the Gateway Pundit blog: or one of Chuck Johnson’s “news” outlets…?

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gwangung  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:24:42pm

re: #192 Teukka

No, I think we’ve passed that point….

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:25:00pm

re: #69 Allow me to light that for you…

Kd9/H+E/BIgQjcTAOme0HM6F4Moyom5IXOu9XiC8/aHT9w1JE8ycUaYEWVmNtwYrH0TZ7GZQ7ZfR05u2xvyduyFexgNjb51yWe7IX/VPuQOPNkLBUcUKjA==

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bratwurst  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:25:13pm

I love the people who argue that publishing Cotton’s love letter to martial law in The New York Times is the one and only way people with an IQ over room temperature could find out that the senator swings that way.

I cannot believe this man is going to get another six year term in the Senate even if there’s a massive blue wave in November. Fuck.

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:25:27pm

re: #194 gwangung

No, I think we’ve passed that point….

Shhhh! Don’t tell them that.
*snickers*

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:25:30pm

re: #179 Teddy’s Person

Asshole gonna asshole

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The only thing Donald Trump and Barack Obama have in common is they’re both carbon-based life forms.

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:25:53pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kay-lie is doing her best propaganda spin. She’d make President Coin proud in Panem.

It’s all crime and lies all the way down in Trumpworld. The world is crashing around them, and they’re still deflecting/projecting their crimes on to everyone else.

Guess Mattis, Obama, and Carter statements stung just a wee bit inside the West Wing.

Trump is a fragile ego’d know nothing, and this is all he knows. So he’ll lash out at all of them thinking it’s the way to show he’s strong.

It’s just the opposite - it reinforces that he’s never been weaker. Sending out troops to protect him and firing on nonviolent protesters so he could do a photo op was only the latest of his awful decisions - and it’s costing him bigly.

It wont get better until his resignation is tendered along with everyone else associated with this regime. Election day is too far off and too much damage can be done by the Trumpists between now and then.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:26:53pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Starlink launch

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Max Q
VROOM, no boom

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:27:26pm

re: #193 Jay C

IIJM, or has bringing on Kayleigh McEnany as Press Secy completed the transformation of the WH Press office into a meatspace version of something like the Gateway Pundit blog: or one of Chuck Johnson’s “news” outlets…?

It’s a reality show: “The Celebrity Apprentice: Government!”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:27:46pm

In case anyone missed it, and I doubt many people here did as on the whole you lot are pretty much up to speed with our deep societal issues, Trump is directly and obviously playing on the loss-of-God problem in America.

Even those black Americans Trump corrals into the WH are part of this crisis in faith. They are religious, hyper-religious, and they have to believe that Trump is Jesus’ guy.

The transition of Europe into a post-Christian world was not smooth (see WWI and WWII.)

It won’t be smooth here, either.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:28:28pm

re: #198 sagehen

The only thing Donald Trump and Barack Obama have in common is they’re both carbon-based life forms.

I’d need confirmation on that one. Trump is the devil incarnate. 😁

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gocart mozart  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:29:05pm
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:30:38pm
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:31:30pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:33:01pm

Mexico reported tonight another 1k dead of Covid-19. Their cases are spiking.

As expected.

Mexico’s leader was very dismissive of Covid-19, and Mexico did not do what was necessary to suppress early infection rate.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:34:23pm

Anyone else feel a little roller?

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:34:28pm

re: #206 jaunte

China knows. Russia knows. They all know.

The nation is leaderless tonight, and no one is minding the store except a deranged lunatic with his finger on the nuclear trigger and sycophants telling him what he wants to hear.

No one is telling him what he needs to hear: that his resignation is required. That Pence must resign - all of them. Because this failed admin not only has the blood of 107,000+ Americans on its hands from its failed covid19 response, but shredding the Constitution, rule of law, and their oaths by attacking peaceful protesters with teargas to go do a goddamned photo op and campaign ad (itself a crime).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:34:30pm
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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:35:03pm

re: #205 jaunte

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:35:51pm

re: #208 Rightwingconspirator

Near Bodie CA - a series of quakes stretching into Southwestern NV.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:36:05pm

re: #208 Rightwingconspirator

Anyone else feel a little roller?

nope

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:36:46pm

Stage One on the boat

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:37:52pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:37:59pm

re: #213 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

re: #212 lawhawk

Just a little wiggle here in NoHo. For a second I was like REALLY?!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:39:23pm

re: #215 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

That is a spectacular shot.

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makeitstop  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:41:33pm

A pause in the disaster.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:42:16pm

re: #102 Barefoot Grin

The thing that sold me on the Weber was that it isn’t just a passive load - there is an actual speaker motor inside it, to help mimic the way a speaker responds.
I also dig that the volume control is a rheostat. Feels old-timey and serious. (And the enclosure is very sturdily built.)

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:43:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:44:21pm
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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:45:48pm

re: #218 makeitstop

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makeitstop  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:46:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:47:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:49:00pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:49:12pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:49:25pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sean Hannity: divorced from wife, and divorced from reality

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:49:55pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:51:24pm

Matt Yglesias getting ratioed. He’s advocating for military crowd control, because this was placid and totally safe in Northern Ireland.
/

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:55:44pm

re: #228 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

This just so 2020.

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Citizen K  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:56:10pm

The entire thread of his is worth looking at.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:58:01pm

re: #120 stpaulbear

So glad you like the masks!

Personally, I like ampeg a bunch. I’m dying to get a 70’s V2 or V4, despite the “where the hell am I gonna use THIS?” factor.
When I first hooked up with that band, the bass player was using a Gallien-Krueger little solid state head. Don’t know if its a coincidence, but shortly after I started toting their amps, he got a big-ass Ampeg tube head. I liked the GK sound just fine, but the Ampeg just seemed to have a lot more, I don’t know, impact? Definitely had more impact on my back.
Somebody makes a pedal that is meant to recreate the SVT sound - if my unemployment ever gets paid maybe I can splurge…

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:58:17pm

THIS IS HOW IT LOOKS FROM MY BUNKER, AN ECONOMY LIKE A FUCKING ATOMIC BOMB!

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 6:58:42pm
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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:00:25pm

re: #233 The Pie Overlord!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:01:16pm

Meanwhile, Trumporrhoids are creating “Fake News” & claiming that it is real.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:10:50pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:11:14pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:16:34pm

OK, surprised to see Special Forces patches on riot control
Obviously from one pf the National Guard SF Groups (19th & 20th)

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Mike Lamb  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:17:04pm

re: #235 lawhawk

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You know it’s bad when he can’t go with “people are saying the economy is going to bounce back”.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:17:38pm
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makeitstop  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:17:43pm

re: #232 Jebediah, RBG

So glad you like the masks!

Personally, I like ampeg a bunch. I’m dying to get a 70’s V2 or V4, despite the “where the hell am I gonna use THIS?” factor.
When I first hooked up with that band, the bass player was using a Gallien-Krueger little solid state head. Don’t know if its a coincidence, but shortly after I started toting their amps, he got a big-ass Ampeg tube head. I liked the GK sound just fine, but the Ampeg just seemed to have a lot more, I don’t know, impact? Definitely had more impact on my back.
Somebody makes a pedal that is meant to recreate the SVT sound - if my unemployment ever gets paid maybe I can splurge…

Back when I was playing bass, I played through an SVT. Besides the 8x10” cabinet, that monstrous head was enclosed in an Anvil flight case when it went in the truck. The head with case easily weighed 120 pounds. Luckily we had a road crew so I didn’t have to move it myself.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:20:08pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:20:35pm

re: #241 Dread Pirate

That ought to shut up the folks who have been talking about how he had drugs in his system and that’s what killed him.

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stpaulbear  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:21:15pm

re: #232 Jebediah, RBG

So glad you like the masks!

Personally, I like ampeg a bunch. I’m dying to get a 70’s V2 or V4, despite the “where the hell am I gonna use THIS?” factor.
When I first hooked up with that band, the bass player was using a Gallien-Krueger little solid state head. Don’t know if its a coincidence, but shortly after I started toting their amps, he got a big-ass Ampeg tube head. I liked the GK sound just fine, but the Ampeg just seemed to have a lot more, I don’t know, impact? Definitely had more impact on my back.
Somebody makes a pedal that is meant to recreate the SVT sound - if my unemployment ever gets paid maybe I can splurge…

Yes, I remember the Ampeg amps being very heavy, but the next band I was in with the Marshall 50’s also carried a Hammond Model A with an original cabinet. We used piano moving lifts with handles but it still took four of us to carry it

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:21:28pm

re: #243 jaunte

In other words, the most brutal cops who are trained to show no restraint in putting down violence. Fuck.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:23:13pm

re: #242 makeitstop

Been entertaining to follow this amp discussion. My VHT Special 6 Ultra is a very nice amp but I doubt that I’ll have the money for anything else. Fun to play all the ones mentioned in my brain though.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:23:27pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:23:43pm

re: #246 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In other words, the most brutal cops who are trained to show no restraint in putting down violence. Fuck.

Which is exactly what Trump wants. Gotta “dominate” those protesters.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:24:31pm

re: #249 Eclectic Cyborg

Which is exactly what Trump wants. Gotta “dominate” those protesters.

Yeah, as soon as I read it, everything fell into place. It makes perfect sense now. What a sick, sadistic, twisted son of a bitch we have for an Acting President.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:25:44pm
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Citizen K  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:27:45pm

re: #243 jaunte

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Treating the American People as little more than criminals at base. Good look there.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:31:30pm

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

FUCK THE NEW YORK TIMES!

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makeitstop  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:31:55pm

We got some Bob Mould fans here, yeah?

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plansbandc  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:34:40pm
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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:37:14pm

re: #254 makeitstop

We got some Bob Mould fans here, yeah?

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Makes me miss Grant again, too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:42:48pm
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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:44:24pm

re: #255 plansbandc

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More like hunger. Those fish are a major food source for the bears.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:44:45pm

Race-Baiting Hannity.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:44:49pm

re: #258 William Lewis

More like hunger. Those fish are a major food source for the bears.

That’s the joke.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:46:08pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:46:51pm
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:47:09pm
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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:48:16pm

re: #260 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s the joke.

Wasn’t sure. I know too many feed the deer and squirrels and other dumb things people.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:49:00pm

To Trump, Sen. Cotton, and the NYT:

Sideways.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:50:05pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:50:13pm

re: #248 jaunte

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#FIREJAMESBENNET

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Citizen K  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:56:54pm

Chaser:

Odd how the Times seems to believe only one side needs the extra print space and exposure.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:58:01pm

re: #268 Citizen K

Remember, these are the same people who are publishing op-eds that say that the stock market is more valuable than people’s lives. Apparently, the “inalienable rights” of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness aren’t as important as the rich man’s right to make money.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 7:59:53pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:04:02pm

re: #260 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s the joke.

Giphy

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:10:41pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:10:56pm

Town I lived in during the aughts.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:14:14pm
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Belafon  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:15:21pm
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Belafon  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:17:05pm

I just saw a thing on Facebook from James Woods where he said that we’re either going to have a lot of sick Democrats or Covid-19 wasn’t as big a deal as we thought.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:18:14pm

It’s so fitting for a blatant racist to be named Cotton isn’t it?

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:18:17pm

re: #276 Belafon

I just saw a thing on Facebook from James Woods where he said that we’re either going to have a lot of sick Democrats or Covid-19 wasn’t as big a deal as we thought.

They’re still not getting it, that peoples fields of fucks are so sorely barren that they’re willing to risk the ‘rona to get their voices heard.

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makeitstop  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:20:48pm

Haven’t seen this posted here. (The video at the bottom.)

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Interesting Times  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:21:56pm

re: #276 Belafon

I just saw a thing on Facebook from James Woods where he said that we’re either going to have a lot of sick Democrats or Covid-19 wasn’t as big a deal as we thought.

I wondered how quickly that bad-faith argument would start circulating in the wingnut cesspit. Surprised it didn’t come up sooner (then again, if trump hadn’t blathered on about it all being a “hoax”, he’d have been in a much better position to use it as a pretext to shut down protests and suspend constitutional rights in the name of “public health.” So…I guess we should we grateful these fascist fucks are dumber than a bag a wet socks…?)

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:23:15pm

Rudi wants to impeach the pope.

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BeachDem  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:23:20pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We believe that is one reason it requires public scrutiny and debate.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe they did not allow comments on the article, so how does that make it possible to “debate?” (And that’s just the tip of the “you really shouldn’t need a debate on whether the US military should attack US citizens” iceberg)

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:26:47pm
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BeachDem  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:30:30pm

re: #192 Teukka

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Jennifer Rubin said it well in her It takes a village to create a monster
piece:

We can rid the White House, the halls of Congress, the governors’ houses and the state legislatures of all traces of the Trumpian GOP. The rest? At the very least we should not treat former officials as respected reservoirs of historical or political wisdom. No cushy university perches. No participation in panels of esteemed former officials. Private employers should be wary of hiring people of such low character. Yes, serving in an administration so corrupt, racist, dishonest and anti-democratic should deprive one of the benefits ex-officials of other administrations enjoy. (Don’t shed a tear on their behalf. They’ll still get jobs with right-wing outfits.)

washingtonpost.com

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:32:32pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:35:19pm
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Citizen K  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:35:32pm

re: #285 jaunte

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I am pleasantly surprised at current senior officials actually standing up against this shit, considering. It’s one of those cases where I am glad to have been proven wrong.

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:36:14pm

re: #281 Dread Pirate

Rudi wants to impeach the pope.

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And it’s probably the wrong Pope, too:

I thought the shrine the Trumps defiled visited was that for Pope St. John Paul II ( the Polish guy), not John XXIII, who was someone else.

Wassamatta, Rudy? Can’t tell your pontiffs without a (illustrated) scorecard?

Moron.

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gocart mozart  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:43:01pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:46:53pm

Fuck the GOP.
Every last one of them.
May history torch them to ashes and ruin.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:48:55pm

I hope those 4 cops that killed George Floyd get it.

George Floyd had coronavirus, autopsy says

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gocart mozart  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:49:43pm
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sagehen  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:49:44pm

Kamala is on the Tonight Show tonight.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:53:10pm

Yeah, sure. Because we must behave like China or Russia and have our very own Tiananmen Square or Katyn Massacre.

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austin_blue  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:55:11pm

I have never seen such a day of either crawfishin’, self justifyin’, or crawlin’ up Trump’s ass!

It’s remarkable.

A lot of folks in DC are getting real nervous. It’s beginning to sink in that the Rs are going to get their asses kicked in November and that Schumer is going to be the majority leader. All that sweet pretty polly is going to dry up and someone is going to have pay the debt.

Night all, as sweet a set of dreams as you can manage.

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:56:59pm

re: #274 The Pie Overlord!

You joke, but Ted Kacyzinski, the Unabomber, got his manifesto published in the NYT.

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William Lewis  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:57:53pm

re: #294 DodgerFan1988

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Yeah, sure. Because we must behave like China or Russia and have our very own Tiananmen Square or Katyn Massacre.

No, not laughing. Remembering how the Army and Navy joining the protesters turned out in 1917…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2020 • 8:58:04pm

re: #109 Teddy’s Person

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After Joe cleans Donny’s clock in November, it will be interesting to see how much of the never Trumper attitude was personal grievance versus a real opposition to Trump’s policies.

There are never Trumpers, such as Bill Kristol, who hated him because of his foreign policy; most of them would have been fine with his 2020 domestic policies (though not his handling of Covid 19).

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:00:31pm

re: #148 lawhawk

Mattis: 3 years with a lack of mature leadership. That’s damning indictment of Mattis. He was there, and did nothing. The reality is that his failures to act to stop Trump years ago are coming back to destroy the nation now.

His silence and assent cost lives.

His silence and assent had deadly consequences is so many ways.

Shredding the constitution and the rule of law, and it took until now for him to see it.

He was there 2 years, not 3 years. And aren’t most senior military men reluctant to openly criticize civilian leadership?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:02:31pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:04:50pm

re: #182 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I have to say that’s freaking me out a little.

COVID19 is disbursed significantly more through singing. Some are wearing masks but that’s insufficient. Dr. Tam in Canada (basically our Fauci) said not to do this at protests; she wants hand signals. There are too many people too close together.

This all makes me so sad. A global phenomenon to stand side by side with all our brothers and sisters in a time where it might be the most detrimental.

Fuck trump.

Fuck the murderous police.

Fuck Republicans. Fuck the racists (but I repeat myself).

Fuck this virus.

Fuck.

But since the protests are occurring outdoors, perhaps that might reduce the risk associated with singing. Let’s hope that this will not lead to an explosive growth of new cases.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:07:51pm
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:09:13pm

How may times has Bill Barr seen Con Air?

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:11:24pm

re: #300 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:11:34pm

re: #302 jaunte

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Because bringing in guys who are trained to handle violent, unruly prisoners to deal with peaceful protestors can only lead to good places, right?

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:12:33pm

re: #301 Hecuba’s daughter

But since the protests are occurring outdoors, perhaps that might reduce the risk associated with singing. Let’s hope that this will not lead to an explosive growth of new cases.

It doesn’t seem to have led to too many new cases at the pool where all of those people were crowded together.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:17:57pm

re: #304 Dread Pirate

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Trump’s not creative enough to come up with that nickname.

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Targetpractice  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:20:06pm

re: #290 (((Archangel1)))

Fuck the GOP.
Every last one of them.
May history torch them to ashes and ruin.

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You can practically smell the desperation through the screen. I’m sure she’s received more than a few very angry calls from Bunker Bitch about how his campaign is circling the drain and she needs to fix that “or else.”

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:24:36pm
Engineers at the University of Cambridge in the U.K. and Turkish domestic appliance company Beko trained a robot to make omelets via machine learning, refining its culinary skills to produce a consistently tasty dish. The machine learning method used Bayesian inference to extract the greatest amount of information possible from a limited number of data samples. To account for the subjectivity of human taste, Cambridge’s Fumiya Iida said, “We needed to tweak the machine learning algorithm—the so-called batch algorithm—so that human tasters could give information based on comparative evaluations, rather than sequential ones.” Added Iida, “The omelettes, in general, tasted great; much better than expected!”

cam.ac.uk

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:30:52pm

The front of Guitar Center’s wesite has a Black Lives Matter banner that links to this statement:

Black Lives Matter

Over the last several days, many across the country have united to demand justice for the senseless deaths of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, and too many more. This pain has been felt deeply across the nation. We recognize that pain and we stand with the Black community in the fight against racism, injustice and inequality.

Our company values diversity and inclusion among our core values. While we strive to live those values, we recognize that we have much to learn and a long way to go on this journey. We are at a crossroads where we must come together and be persistent in our efforts to make meaningful change.

Therefore, it is our personal commitment that we, at the Guitar Center Company, will take actionable steps to do our part in supporting the Black community and embracing diversity and inclusion both in our company and our communities. We will not tolerate racism.

Through our joys and challenges, music is our strength, our solace, our expression. It is a powerful force for good and a voice for change. We will increase our efforts with the Black artist and music community to continue to build lasting relationships, garner feedback on how we can improve, and build music programs so that more aspiring Black musicians can realize their dreams.

We wholeheartedly believe we have a responsibility to those who are impacted daily by societal inequality and injustice. We don’t have all the answers but we are committed to listening and doing the work to get to a more just world. We affirm our support of our Associates, our customers and our communities as we work together to stop inequality and injustice.

Ron Japinga, President & Chief Executive Officer
Tim Martin, Chief Financial Officer
Jeff Gottlieb, President of Music & Arts
Wayne Colwell, EVP Stores
Karl Bracken, EVP Merchandising & Private Brands
Ravi Balwada, SVP Chief Technology Officer
Bob Buckborough, VP Ecommerce
Anne Buchanan, SVP Chief Human Resources Officer
Jeannine D’Addario, SVP Chief Marketing Officer
Todd Lyche, SVP Chief Data Officer
Michael Pendleton, SVP Chief Legal Counsel

guitarcenter.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:31:56pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:38:33pm

re: #245 stpaulbear

Yes, I remember the Ampeg amps being very heavy, but the next band I was in with the Marshall 50’s also carried a Hammond Model A with an original cabinet. We used piano moving lifts with handles but it still took four of us to carry it

Jeez! Good thing you had the piano lifts

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plansbandc  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:43:10pm

re: #258 William Lewis

I think it might be a cop/protester metaphor.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:51:28pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 3, 2020 • 9:56:37pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s fascinating about that statement is how armed militias that resist law enforcement have consistently been a positive thing in conservative circles since…approximiately…Waco.

It’s almost like there’s some kind of distinction they don’t want to actually say outright, and just rely that their audience implicitly understands….

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2020 • 10:10:49pm

re: #254 makeitstop

We got some Bob Mould fans here, yeah?

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Hell yes - been a fan since his days in Hüsker Dü.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2020 • 10:26:14pm

Another hour, another Karen…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2020 • 10:26:56pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2020 • 10:30:35pm

And it’s only Wednesday for a little while longer on the West Coast.

I am truly dreading the Friday Afternoon Toilet Flush.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 10:48:34pm

So much for heat and sunshine to quell virus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:11:50pm

The Chief of Naval Operations gave a short Navywide speech on the death of Mr. George Floyd, which he characterised as murder (twice), and on racism in society and in the Navy and how it should be treated by sailors, family, and friends.

navy.mil

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:17:28pm

re: #317 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another hour, another Karen…

That might explain why she’s an ex-cop.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:21:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:28:07pm

Cases are accellerating in the Nebraska Panhandle.
pphd.org
Confirmed: 157 (+6, +4 in Scott’s Bluff County, +2 in Garden County—double in one day)
Recovered: 87
Available hospital beds in the Panhandle and Grant County: 60%
Cases by age: 10-19 (33, accellerating), then 40-49 (28)
Most cases by county: Scott’s Bluff (119), then Morrill (mine, 11)
Doubling rate: Accellerating, 18 days
Deaths: 0

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:33:24pm

OPT is Optional Practical Training, which allows foreign graduate students to work for three years after graduation in the USA. State senator Megan Hunt (D, district 8) is giving props to Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE2) for being one of twenty Republicans to sign a letter to President Trump to continue the programme.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:35:44pm

(video, 0:05)

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Dread Pirate  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:42:07pm

That’s interesting, a police coptor got up and to the area to search for a foot-bail in just two minutes. He stated he was overhead but still had six minutes before his FLIR would be up and working.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:42:40pm

A brief statement from Lucasfilm in support of John Boyega. Good to see, along with the tweet from Mark Hamill.

Lucasfilm stands with John Boyega and his message that, “Now is the time. Black lives have always mattered. Black lives have always been important. Black lives have always meant something.”

The evil that is racism must stop. We will commit to being part of the change that is long overdue in the world.

John Boyega, you are our hero.

starwars.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:43:02pm

Tropical Storm Cristobal is still drifting SE, now 45 miles/70 km SSE of Ciudad del Carmen. It is expected to turn north and reëmerge over the Gulf of Mexico later today.
nhc.noaa.gov

The strike cone on the northern Gulf has been widened from Freeport, Tex. to the Miss./Ala. line.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:51:00pm

Still no designation of Antifa as a terrorist organisation … no proclamations were issued yesterday.

It would appear Trump forgot about it.

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:53:26pm

re: #330 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Still no designation of Antifa as a terrorist organisation … no proclamations were issued yesterday.

It would appear Trump forgot about it.

And/or the DoJ has come to realize that once they start going after those “terrorists”, they are going to start turning up the “wrong” sort…..

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:55:39pm

re: #331 Jay C

And/or the DoJ has come to realize that once they start going after those “terrorists”, they are going to start turning up the “wrong” sort…..

Yep, like those three asshats busted in Vegas.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 3, 2020 • 11:56:38pm

Film Streams has “A Time For Burning” (1967, Not Rated, nominated for an Academy Award at the time, by the Lutheran Film Association, run time 0:58:00) available free for streaming at the moment.

A Time for Burning is the story of one pastor’s unsuccessful efforts to integrate Omaha’s Augustana Lutheran Church in 1966. The movie’s central figure is Bill Youngdahl, the socially conscious white clergyman driving the church’s reforms, but its most compelling may be a young Ernie Chambers, then as now a fiery and uncompromising voice for North Omaha. Barbara Connell and Bill Jersey’s searing postcard from the front lines of the civil rights movement aired nationally on television and was nominated for the Best Documentary Picture Academy Award. Though not explicitly presented as a microcosm of the tensions gripping the country at large, A Time for Burning remains an indelible document of a time when things seemed set to burst.

filmstreams.org (Movie trailer, film stills, and link to the stream available at the link)

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Dread Pirate  Jun 4, 2020 • 12:00:50am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 12:02:57am
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Dread Pirate  Jun 4, 2020 • 12:18:45am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 4, 2020 • 12:32:41am

re: #336 Dread Pirate

Aaaaand, in comes the conservative parrots on that thread to justify police riots.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 12:34:57am

re: #92 Jack Burton

I really wish someone would ask him on camera: “What’s with the posture? You look like a Centaur who’s had the horse’s ass-removed, and the rest of you is making up for that in more ways than one.”

It is the same posture as women in high heels: indication that he has heel inserts as well.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 4, 2020 • 12:42:47am

Opinion piece in my regional newspaper just went up by Jonah Goldberg complaining that China has called out the USA for human rights violations over the protests … click.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 12:45:55am

re: #261 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It’s weird how freedom guns become bad when black people own them.

None of them had any problem with the Bundy Clan occupying and damaging public property or training guns on LEO’s…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 4, 2020 • 12:52:50am

Kleine now backs calling a grand jury to review James Scurlock’s death (Omaha World-Herald)

TL;DR, Douglas County Prosecutor Don Kleine has relented and will allow a grand jury and special prosecutor to be appointed, after the shooting death in Omaha of James Scurlock (a 22 year-old black man) by a white bar owner on Sunday. Kleine says he’s reviewed additional evidence to indicate Jake Gardner acted in self-defence. He announced on Sunday there would be no investigation.

A petition was launched in the city to force appointment of a grand jury, which would have taken about twenty thousand signatures.

“There have been a few things that have come in that actually, that probably (support) the nature of the decision that we made,” Kleine said. “Just enhanced or made that (decision) even more strong.”

That said, Kleine added: “I certainly believe in transparency and have no problem with any oversight about (our) decisions. … I welcome and support the calling of a grand jury to review evidence in this rare instance.”

Afterward, Scurlock’s father, James Scurlock II, thanked the community, especially black Omahans, for forcing the issue. And he thanked Kleine for listening.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 4, 2020 • 12:55:43am

re: #341 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fixed poor wording.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 4, 2020 • 1:04:26am

re: #339 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Considering opening up with the liberal “Letter to the Editor” pen to go after Mr. Goldberg’s fallacy of relative privation (whataboutism) argument.

Essentially in his opinion piece, Mr. Goldberg makes the claim since China is abhorrent on human rights, they have no place criticising the USA.

This is the same argument the Soviet Union and China used against the USA during Jim Crow and the Civil Rights Movement to argue about the USA criticising them.

Mr. Goldberg is not stupid; he knows this. Regardless of the human rights situation in China, that doesn’t relieve our own nation in improving ours.

I’ll stew over his column and probably write a response tomorrow.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 4, 2020 • 1:10:43am

Pentagon chief on shaky ground with White House after breaking with Trump over protest response (CNN)

Washington (CNN)Secretary of Defense Mark Esper is on shaky ground with the White House after saying Wednesday that he does not support using active duty troops to quell the large-scale protests across the United States triggered by the death of George Floyd and those forces should only be used in a law enforcement role as a last resort.

Speaking from the Pentagon briefing room podium, Esper noted that “we are not in one of those situations now,” distancing himself from President Donald Trump’s recent threat to deploy the military to enforce order.

“The option to use active duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort, and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. We are not in one of those situations now. I do not support invoking the Insurrection Act,” he told reporters. Esper also distanced himself from a maligned photo-op outside St. John’s Church.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 4, 2020 • 1:19:26am

Days later, regional officials finally acknowledge massive fuel spill in the Russian Arctic

Regional leaders from Russia’s Krasnoyarsk Krai were subject to a lecture from President Vladimir Putin for their slow response to a massive diesel spill at a combined heat and power plant (CHP) in the Arctic city of Norilsk.

The accident took place on May 29, at a plant belonging to the Norilsk-Taimyr Energy Company. A reservoir sustained damage after one of its supports suddenly began to collapse, causing depressurization, which led to a fuel spill and a fire. A total of 20,000 tons of fuel spread into the soil in the surrounding area, spilling over into nearby rivers.

According to data from Russia’s regulatory agency for natural resources, Rosprirodnadzor, after the accident bodies of water more than 20 kilometers from the site contained concentrations of petroleum products that were tens of thousands of times higher than the maximum permissible limit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 4, 2020 • 1:38:24am

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

Doomsday Scenario: Mid-October 2020. Trump, badly behind in the polls and clearly at risk of losing the election, decides to start a war/use nukes on a foreign country in a desperate attempt to boost his popularity and try to remain in the White House.

California?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 4, 2020 • 1:41:33am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 4, 2020 • 1:50:22am

My computer wants to do yet another update, so I’m going to log off and hit the rack.

I’ll catch y’all later.

Stay safe out there.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 4, 2020 • 1:52:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 4, 2020 • 1:57:02am

re: #349 Ace-o-aces

Clearly, it’s Bane. In disguise.

The Dark Knight Rises - Bane Blackgate Prison Speech (HD) IMAX

BTW, that’s some great acting from Tom Hardy….his Bane is top-notch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 2:07:36am

Darth Antifader.

They are really trying to turn this into Good vs Evil, Patriots vs Traitors, Law and Order vs Anarchy and Chaos, God vs, Satan, and in the end, Black vs White.

Do you want armed Mau-Mau rape gangs taking over your neighborhood? If not, we have to continue the policy of letting police forces act with impunity and be judge, jury and executioner…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 4, 2020 • 2:17:53am

In a bit of unsolved mysteries news, it looks like the Braunschweig Public Prosecutor’s Office in Germany is working with Scotland Yard in the belief that a German citizen, currently incarcerated as a sex offender, may have been responsible for the disappearance of Madeline McCann.

The suspect is unnamed for now, but is currently 43 years old, which would have made him ~30 at the time of her disappearance. Apparently, he had been looked into as part of Operation Grange, though it’s not stated whether he was officially questioned at that time. More information about the suspect didn’t emerge until 2017 and since then, extensive inquiries about him have been carried out, both in Portugal and Germany.

bbc.com

It’s certainly an interesting development, but as a caveat, we’ve seen dead-ends in this case before.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 4, 2020 • 2:18:53am
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ericblair  Jun 4, 2020 • 2:31:35am

The NYT editors believe it is their job to “challenge” its liberal readers by printing any piece of right-wing drivel they can find. They also seem to think it is their job to determine a narrative for every story, which needs to incorporate the right wing drivel, so guess what the narrative looks like. The editors don’t feel the same need to “challenge” its right wing readers (or figure that grudgingly publishing the actual facts is challenge enough).

At some point, the NYT editors might point out that the First Amendment doesn’t mean that right wing members of the government get to say whatever they fucking want on any platform they fucking want without criticism. That’s actually the exact opposite of the First Amendment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 2:44:00am

re: #354 ericblair

At some point, the NYT editors might point out that the First Amendment doesn’t mean that right wing members of the government get to say whatever they fucking want on any platform they fucking want without criticism. That’s actually the exact opposite of the First Amendment.

They fucking well know that, they are just counting on most of their readers being unaware of what the 1A means.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 2:46:06am

re: #109 Teddy’s Person

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After Joe cleans Donny’s clock in November, it will be interesting to see how much of the never Trumper attitude was personal grievance versus a real opposition to Trump’s policies.

as of this am biden leads in Wisconsin Arizona and ohio

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 4, 2020 • 2:47:07am

re: #356 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Biden and Trump are neck-and-neck in Texas. Texas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 2:47:13am

re: #356 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

After Joe cleans Donny’s clock in November, it will be interesting to see how much of the never Trumper attitude was personal grievance versus a real opposition to Trump’s policies.

It was all a matter of style vs policy.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 2:55:40am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 4, 2020 • 3:08:41am

Nice weather here today and can’t just sit here like a bump on a log. Back later.

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2020 • 3:09:07am

Comic relief:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 4, 2020 • 3:24:26am
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Targetpractice  Jun 4, 2020 • 3:38:32am

re: #356 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

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as of this am biden leads in Wisconsin Arizona and ohio

According to Electoral-Vote’s map, if the election were held today and the polls held, Biden would win 353-185. Biden is likely to pick up PA, WI, and MI this go around because Trump trails in all by up to double digits. In such a scenario, Biden could still lose AZ, OH, and FL and win (granted, the win would be a less-impressive 278-260).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 3:44:41am

regardless of the outcome, Trump will contest it until his own party concedes and intervenes to remove him from the White House, where they will find him inspecting the bunker

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Dizzy  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:00:56am

A name from the distant LGF past. Good riddance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:03:09am

re: #365 Dizzy

Pamela Geller, one of the world’s premier anti-Muslim bigots, has been booted from Twitter.

Twitter Gulag is bursting at the seams…

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Dizzy  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:06:29am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is still one major twitiot, an orange one, who still has free reign.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:17:19am

re: #367 Dizzy

There is still one major twitiot, an orange one, who still has free reign.

The one who threatened to shut it down…on Twitter?

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Dizzy  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:22:50am

re: #368 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The one who threatened to shut it down…on Twitter?

Yes, the same one who came out with that bit of dissonance.

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steve_davis  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:39:41am

re: #49 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I just hope that the parallels don’t continue; I’m not particularly interested in Russian artillery bombarding Washington.

or russian infantry gang raping any woman between the ages of 12 and 80.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:42:05am

re: #370 steve_davis

or russian infantry gang raping any woman between the ages of 12 and 80.

How about dividing Washington into zones of occupation?

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:44:42am

re: #368 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The one who threatened to shut it down…on Twitter?

Laura Loomer is the one who handcuffed herself to the Twitter HQ auxillary door and lost her key or something in one of the most pitiful displays I have ever witnessed in my life…

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:45:32am

re: #370 steve_davis

or russian infantry gang raping any woman between the ages of 12 and 80.

Or “domestic” “Partisans” (read: Soviet Special Forces) raping women and girls, murdering infants, women, elderly and children, plundering the villages they lived in as a means of attempting to soften the enemy, and then setting as a non-negotiable term of any peace that the acts be kept secret for at least 50 years, and when more than those years have passed and you declassify some of the photos, flip your lid à la threatening WWIII…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:47:42am

I remember the debate over whether the SS or the NKVD was responsible for the mass graves in Katyn, Poland.

Although in the end, this is like two crackheads breaking into a house, murdering the family, and then arguing afterwards about which one of them strangled grandma…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:49:05am

moron

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:51:33am
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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:55:52am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Looks like someone had a nice restful and relaxing sleep.

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steve_davis  Jun 4, 2020 • 4:58:11am

...

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Nojay UK  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:01:23am

re: #374 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The German people were really surprised to discover that Total War applied to them too, not just the mud people they slaughtered in their search for lebensraum. It’s a bit like the members of the “Leopards Eating People’s Faces” party discovering that retribution is a bitch.

In the end, because the Western powers needed Germans as the spearpoint forces for their next assault on Communism West Germany wasn’t thoroughly deNazified, disarmed and reduced to an agrarian economy which is what the Soviets wanted. The old men in the Kremlin (most of who had spent time literally on the front lines against Fascism) had to settle for maintaining a political and military stranglehold on East Germany which, thankfully was enough to stop a third World War breaking out.

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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:04:01am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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What? He didn’t read Tom Cotton’s send-in-the-troops Op-Ed? That, at least, I think he wouldn’t think “fake”….

[NARRATOR: “But of course, Donald Trump doesn’t read…..”]

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jeffreyw  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:06:16am

Good morning!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:06:50am

re: #168 makeitstop

Hm.

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Par.2 “This shit’s not on me.”

Customary hand-written note on the carefully-staffed letter is the message.re: #322 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That might explain why she’s an ex-cop.

Lasted 2 months as a deputy. The Sheriff is not happy.

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:09:57am

re: #316 Dr Lizardo

Hell yes - been a fan since his days in Hüsker Dü.

That new tune kicks some ass.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:10:52am

re: #298 Hecuba’s daughter

There are never Trumpers, such as Bill Kristol, who hated him because of his foreign policy; most of them would have been fine with his 2020 domestic policies (though not his handling of Covid 19).

This!

And I, for one, will never forget. They’re not friends, they’re not frenemies, they helped build this. They spent years demonizing Democrats. They’re coconspirators. They’re just as guilty.

And what’s worse, they’ll be right back at it if we come out of this on the other side with a county.

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steve_davis  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:12:05am

re: #378 steve_davis

well crap. I was trying to paste in a page from a nuclear weapons simulator, but it isn’t working. Anyway, we’re currently at the point with casualties where we would have detonated the largest current nuke in the U.S. arsenal over Greenville, SC. This may be the new most effective means of envisioning deaths from Covid 19.

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:13:01am

re: #385 steve_davis

well crap. I was trying to paste in a page from a nuclear weapons simulator, but it isn’t working. Anyway, we’re currently at the point with casualties where we would have detonated the largest current nuke in the U.S. arsenal over Greenville, SC. This may be the new most effective means of envisioning deaths from Covid 19.

And that’s just the direct deaths of the detonation, subsequent deaths from ARS and injuries not included…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:13:22am

more in Armin’s thread

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:13:48am

re: #299 Hecuba’s daughter

He was there 2 years, not 3 years. And aren’t most senior military men reluctant to openly criticize civilian leadership?

I don’t think we can use that argument is valid in these times. These people watched as trump destroyed US institutions. They see the ramifications. This time there is no pass. Country or trump. They chose poorly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:14:15am

re: #379 Nojay UK

The German people were really surprised to discover that Total War applied to them too, not just the mud people they slaughtered in their search for lebensraum. It’s a bit like the members of the “Leopards Eating People’s Faces” party discovering that retribution is a bitch.

I remember reading about German soldiers visiting home on leave and seeing how badly the cities were being bombed: many of them just wanted to get back to the front, where they could at least fight back against the enemy that was trying to kill them.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:16:34am

Good Morning all:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:19:19am
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ericblair  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:19:26am
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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:21:13am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

More fencing going up around the White House complex early this morning

Mexican construction crew?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:24:21am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Whoever did the voiceover was very good.

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:32:12am

My guess - they’ll run away from questions, or just not show up in public at all.

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Nojay UK  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:32:27am

re: #389 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

During WW1 the average German citizen didn’t know much about what was happening on the Western Front, no bombs fell on German cities, there was no “Berlin Gun” bombarding German soil. “All Quiet on the Western Front” was a regular strapline for German newspapers when nothing much happened far from their quiet streets while the death and destruction continued in Belgium and France. For that reason the idea of the Dolchstosslegende was easy to propagate after the war — how did we lose, why did we surrender when we were so obviously winning? It must have been the Jews and Bolsheviks, we were stabbed in the back! Combine that with toothless enforcement of the Versailles Treaty throughout the 1930s and the result was over forty million Soviet dead, German forces on the outskirts of Moscow and concentration and extermination camps established in Poland and elsewhere to deal with ‘undesirables’.

After the Red Army treated the Germans to Total War: Berlin Boogaloo they sat down and shut up and obeyed their masters and they haven’t started another war since. I’ve seen it said that, between the time of the Roman Empire and 1945, the longest period between armies crossing the Rhine to fight wars was sixty years. After the Soviet destruction of the Nazis and the associated atrocities in German/Axis territories, bupkis.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:34:29am

Dwayne Johnson’s criticism (he posted last night) of Trump has gotten a little bit of attention, but not as much as I had thought (for a guy who has been the top box office draw for a while and has millions of online followers.)

Maybe, I think, the problem is that Johnson is trying to influence Trump or the people around here, but the reality is that Trump doesn’t want to change.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:34:50am

re: #392 ericblair

I’m pretty confident that David Brooks’ actual job title on his tax forms is: “guy who dumped his wife for a child bride and is utterly confident of himself as an intellectual and moral arbiter.”

Like, he so perfectly generates a pseudo-profound fog of obfuscation that allows people with power to abuse it and never experience doubt or moral self-examination that I strong suspect that his was in some way altered in a lab, like Wolverine but with sophistry instead of bones.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:35:24am

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:37:47am
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William Lewis  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:37:58am

re: #383 makeitstop

That new tune kicks some ass.

It’s a good reminder that being a gay man in the 80’s was almost as deadly as being an armed black man taunting a cop. If there is a hell, Ronald MFing Reagan is in it’s lowest circle.

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stpaulbear  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:39:18am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:40:26am
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Teukka  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:45:30am
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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:45:40am

re: #395 makeitstop

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My guess - they’ll run away from questions, or just not show up in public at all.

Or mumble something about “Well, Gen. Mattis Is entitled to his opinion”, then run away.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:52:18am

re: #296 Sherlock Hound

You joke, but Ted Kacyzinski, the Unabomber, got his manifesto published in the NYT.

And what happened after that?

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Targetpractice  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:52:34am

re: #396 Nojay UK

During WW1 the average German citizen didn’t know much about what was happening on the Western Front, no bombs fell on German cities, there was no “Berlin Gun” bombarding German soil. “All Quiet on the Western Front” was a regular strapline for German newspapers when nothing much happened far from their quiet streets while the death and destruction continued in Belgium and France. For that reason the idea of the Dolchstosslegende was easy to propagate after the war — how did we lose, why did we surrender when we were so obviously winning? It must have been the Jews and Bolsheviks, we were stabbed in the back! Combine that with toothless enforcement of the Versailles Treaty throughout the 1930s and the result was over forty million Soviet dead, German forces on the outskirts of Moscow and concentration and extermination camps established in Poland and elsewhere to deal with ‘undesirables’.

After the Red Army treated the Germans to Total War: Berlin Boogaloo they sat down and shut up and obeyed their masters and they haven’t started another war since. I’ve seen it said that, between the time of the Roman Empire and 1945, the longest period between armies crossing the Rhine to fight wars was sixty years. After the Soviet destruction of the Nazis and the associated atrocities in German/Axis territories, bupkis.

Much the same happened in the early years of WWII, which was a large part of why Hitler remained popular to the German people and tolerable to the military. Before 1943, there simply wasn’t any real threat to Germany proper: The RAF and USAAF took time to build their numbers and get enough long-range fighters to stage regular raids, while the beginning of the Soviet counter-offensive at Stalingrad was years away. Meanwhile, the wealth of Germany’s conquests was flowing into her coffers and onto the plates of her citizens, such that the average Berliner’s view of the war was the propaganda outlets telling them about their inevitable victory.

There’s stories from German soldiers who survived the war who, when they’d go home from the front lines for leave or due to injuries, they’d be totally shocked by what they found back home. They were freezing in fox holes on the Eastern Front, forced to forage or hunt for food, and counting every bullet as though it might be their last, and then they’d get home and everybody acted as though the good times were never going to end. How could they be losing the war when there was meat on the table, cream and sugar in their coffee, and their wives had all the nylons they could afford?

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Teukka  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:54:59am

re: #407 Targetpractice

Much the same happened in the early years of WWII, which was a large part of why Hitler remained popular to the German people and tolerable to the military. Before 1943, there simply wasn’t any real threat to Germany proper: The RAF and USAAF took time to build their numbers and get enough long-range fighters to stage regular raids, while the beginning of the Soviet counter-offensive at Stalingrad was years away. Meanwhile, the wealth of Germany’s conquests was flowing into her coffers and onto the plates of her citizens, such that the average Berliner’s view of the war was the propaganda outlets telling them about their inevitable victory.

There’s stories from German soldiers who survived the war who, when they’d go home from the front lines for leave or due to injuries, they’d be totally shocked by what they found back home. They were freezing in fox holes on the Eastern Front, forced to forage or hunt for food, and counting every bullet as though it might be their last, and then they’d get home and everybody acted as though the good times were never going to end. How could they be losing the war when there was meat on the table, cream and sugar in their coffee, and their wives had all the nylons they could afford?

The effect of a harsh reality check when it goes from that rosy dream state to total war in a matter of … what was it? Weeks? Months?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 5:57:41am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is the same posture as women in high heels: indication that he has heel inserts as well.

As a woman who spent a good number of years wearing heels, including super high ones (sometimes called fuck me heels), I can assure you I never had that posture. Ever.

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:03:33am

re: #409 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

As a woman who spent a good number of years wearing heels, including super high ones (sometimes called fuck me heels), I can assure you I never had that posture. Ever.

My wife wears heels most of the time, and she has nowhere near that grotesque posture. Not even close.

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Targetpractice  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:03:47am

re: #408 Teukka

The effect of a harsh reality check when it goes from that rosy dream state to total war in a matter of … what was it? Weeks? Months?

Over a year. The official acknowledgement that the Battle of Stalingrad had been a major defeat and Goebbels calling for total war wasn’t until Feb ‘43, but Hitler wouldn’t allow him to actually start drawing men and materiel from the non-essential sectors of the German economy until July ‘44.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:05:42am

re: #411 Targetpractice

Over a year. The official acknowledgement that the Battle of Stalingrad had been a major defeat and Goebbels calling for total war wasn’t until Feb ‘43, but Hitler wouldn’t allow him to actually start drawing men and materiel from the non-essential sectors of the German economy until July ‘44.

Not that that mattered. Germany lacked sufficient oil to fully operate the tanks and planes it did have.

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:06:57am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:09:11am

re: #404 Teukka

Just wait until Apophis gets near.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:09:36am

re: #372 b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)

Laura Loomer is the one who handcuffed herself to the Twitter HQ auxillary door and lost her key or something in one of the most pitiful displays I have ever witnessed in my life…

And that asshole is running for Congress as a Republican…with the full support of President Super Chicken!

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Targetpractice  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:10:48am

re: #412 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Not that that mattered. Germany lacked sufficient oil to fully operate the tanks and planes it did have.

They’d at least acknowledged that much and started working on synthetic fuel plants, as well as the (botched) effort to secure the oil reserves in Caucuses. But even then, every gallon that Hitler was making sure was not being taken away from the civilian population was a gallon that wasn’t going into a tank or a fighter.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:11:35am

re: #397 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Dwayne Johnson’s criticism (he posted last night) of Trump has gotten a little bit of attention, but not as much as I had thought (for a guy who has been the top box office draw for a while and has millions of online followers.)

Maybe, I think, the problem is that Johnson is trying to influence Trump or the people around here, but the reality is that Trump doesn’t want to change.

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Trump is literally incapable of changing. As a GOP strategist said, Trump is so defective, he can only run as what he is. That was just barely good enough in 2016 when he had the Russians, the entire media and James Comey running interference for him; it won’t be this year while the country is burning down and he is manifestly unfit for the job.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:12:59am

re: #413 makeitstop

Trump’s treatment of the military is why I’m confident that even if he wants to throw a tantrum over November, it will be just that. I wish Mattis had spoken out earlier but better late than ever. I’m for anyone that will help defeat this asshole.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:13:46am

re: #403 Teukka

oof da…

That white house looks pretty well built to hold together and float so well.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:13:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:14:13am

re: #416 Targetpractice

They’d at least acknowledged that much and started working on synthetic fuel plants, as well as the (botched) effort to secure the oil reserves in Caucuses.

But then the Berniebots blocked them!!!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:15:00am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:15:58am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:17:14am

re: #420 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:18:25am

Candace Owens has apparently said another monumentally stupid thing because she’s trending on Twitter. Can’t be bothered to click through and see exactly what monumentally stupid thing she said, though.

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:36:30am

re: #406 Shropshire Slasher

And what happened after that?

IIRC, when the Unabomber’s manifesto was published, his brother said “OMG I know who wrote this!!” and that’s how they caught him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:37:50am

re: #425 makeitstop

Candace Owens has apparently said another monumentally stupid thing because she’s trending on Twitter. Can’t be bothered to click through and see exactly what monumentally stupid thing she said, though.

Probably farting out cheers for the cops who killed George Floyd. Eventually karma will catch up with that CENSORED.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:38:18am

re: #416 Targetpractice

They’d at least acknowledged that much and started working on synthetic fuel plants, as well as the (botched) effort to secure the oil reserves in Caucuses. But even then, every gallon that Hitler was making sure was not being taken away from the civilian population was a gallon that wasn’t going into a tank or a fighter.

An interesting question of alternative history is, if Operation Barbarossa had focused on the oil fields, giving Army Groups North and Center just enough strength to protect Army Group South’s flank and keep a large portion of the Red Army tied down around Moscow, could it have succeeded?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:39:31am

re: #425 makeitstop

Candace Owens has apparently said another monumentally stupid thing because she’s trending on Twitter. Can’t be bothered to click through and see exactly what monumentally stupid thing she said, though.

Couldn’t care less; rightwing pundits say monumentally stupid things every day.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:42:18am

re: #409 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

You also don’t have 300 + lbs pulling you forward either.

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Mattand  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:45:26am

It took me a minute to remember who Mattis was.

I guess it’s great that he spoke out, but like most Trump appointees/flunkies, wasn’t he basically another guy who helped cover everything in gas and throw a lit match? The whole Leopard Eating People’s Face Party analogy, to a degree?

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:45:34am

re: #430 A Mom Anon

You also don’t have 300 + lbs pulling you forward either.

I had to scroll back to see what the 300 pounds was of, and it wasn’t boobs.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:45:40am

re: #430 A Mom Anon

You also don’t have 300 + lbs pulling you forward either.

At my biggest I was 350. I was much younger then but still.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:47:25am

X goes after Q’s acolyte Taryn Manning.

NSFW but quite pleasing to watch!

Taryn Manning Goes Full QAnon

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:50:15am

re: #425 makeitstop

Candace Owens has apparently said another monumentally stupid thing because she’s trending on Twitter. Can’t be bothered to click through and see exactly what monumentally stupid thing she said, though.

She posted a “he’s no angel” rant, that Floyd isn’t a hero or martyr.

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Mattand  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:50:30am

re: #433 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

At my biggest I was 350. I was much younger then but still.

I’m 6’ and 235 right now. I carry it well enough, but it’s obvious I need to lose weight. There is no way on Earth that jackass is 244 lbs. None.

Just stunning how even doctors will lie for this motherfucker.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:51:11am

[trump] MATTIS WAS A LOWLY PRIVATE PEELING TATERS WHEN I DISCOVERED HIM! [/trump]

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:51:24am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:55:24am

re: #435 sagehen

She posted a “he’s no angel” rant, that Floyd isn’t a hero or martyr.

which means he deserved to die at the hands of summary justice?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:55:40am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:56:55am

re: #434 Joe Bacon 🌹

X goes after Q’s acolyte Taryn Manning.

NSFW but quite pleasing to watch!

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That’s a shame, I liked her in Orange is the New Black

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:57:05am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Biden will take it down

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stpaulbear  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:57:31am

re: #397 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Dwayne Johnson’s criticism (he posted last night) of Trump has gotten a little bit of attention, but not as much as I had thought (for a guy who has been the top box office draw for a while and has millions of online followers.)

Maybe, I think, the problem is that Johnson is trying to influence Trump or the people around here, but the reality is that Trump doesn’t want to change.

I tried to watch that this morning and I can see why it’s not kicking up a lot of interest. It’s a heartfelt message, but the presentation (as far as I watched) seems almost untouched by human hands. His look is robotic and his delivery is monotone. I don’t know if he was trying to maintain is cool tough guy demeanor but I think it would have been more interesting if he had lightened up and shown some personality.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 4, 2020 • 6:57:56am

re: #435 sagehen

She posted a “he’s no angel” rant, that Floyd isn’t a hero or martyr.

As though that justifies his cold blooded murder; dog she’s awful.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:00:07am

re: #443 stpaulbear

I tried to watch that this morning and I can see why it’s not kicking up a lot of interest. It’s a heartfelt message, but the presentation (as far as I watched) seems almost untouched by human hands. His look is robotic and his delivery is monotone. I don’t know if he was trying to maintain is cool tough guy demeanor but I think it would have been more interesting if he had lightened up and shown some personality.

Guess he was trying to be serious; he has so much personality in the movies!

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:01:43am

re: #435 sagehen

She posted a “he’s no angel” rant, that Floyd isn’t a hero or martyr.

Candace showing just how up to speed she is, since this excuse is about three weeks late.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:03:36am

re: #446 Belafon

Candace showing just how up to speed she is, since this excuse is about three weeks late.

Doesn’t matter. Robert and Rebekkah Mercer will put more Wingnut Welfare Money in KKKandy’s bank account.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:05:19am

re: #417 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump is literally incapable of changing. As a GOP strategist said, Trump is so defective, he can only run as what he is. That was just barely good enough in 2016 when he had the Russians, the entire media and James Comey running interference for him; it won’t be this year while the country is burning down and he is manifestly unfit for the job.

When all you’ve got is “let me fix everything I broke”….

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:05:30am

There are not enough words to display my anger at this.

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stpaulbear  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:05:34am

re: #445 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Guess he was trying to be serious; he has so much personality in the movies!

That’s why I didn’t get it. It was so one-note when it didn’t have to be.

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lizardofid  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:06:19am

re: #443 stpaulbear

I tried to watch that this morning and I can see why it’s not kicking up a lot of interest. It’s a heartfelt message, but the presentation (as far as I watched) seems almost untouched by human hands. His look is robotic and his delivery is monotone. I don’t know if he was trying to maintain is cool tough guy demeanor but I think it would have been more interesting if he had lightened up and shown some personality.

Let’s face it, at the risk of coming across flippant, if he wanted to reach Trump and his supporters, he should have promised to “layeth the smackdown on his candy ass”!

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:06:51am

re: #449 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There are not enough words to display my anger at this.

Tell the House it’s time to start some real investigations, starring Roger Stone.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:07:26am

There is a very good chance the November election will be a massive shitshow, giving Trump oxygen to challenge the results, which is a big reason why we need a decisive victory. slate.com

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:08:05am

re: #418 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Trump’s treatment of the military is why I’m confident that even if he wants to throw a tantrum over November, it will be just that. I wish Mattis had spoken out earlier but better late than ever. I’m for anyone that will help defeat this asshole.

electoral-vote.com this am

For those who might like a silver lining, though, there is one here. Mattis’ letter, and Esper’s pushback for that matter, are excellent proof of concept of something we’ve said numerous times: If Trump tries to stay in office beyond the expiration of his term, there is no chance that the military establishment plays along. And without its backing, Trump would merely become the world’s highest-profile trespasser, right up until he became the highest-profile person in the world to be jailed for trespassing

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:10:37am

re: #428 NO SMOCKING GUN!

An interesting question of alternative history is, if Operation Barbarossa had focused on the oil fields, giving Army Groups North and Center just enough strength to protect Army Group South’s flank and keep a large portion of the Red Army tied down around Moscow, could it have succeeded?

An even more interesting question - what if Rommel (and Dönitz) had successfully convinced Hitler of their strategy; namely, reinforce the Afrika Korps with another armored division, sent a Luftflotte for air cover, then cut across the Suez Canal, into Jordan and roll into Iraq (and maybe Iran….it’s been so long since I read about it, I’ve forgotten all the details) and capture the British oil supply. No need for a southern flank in Barbarossa; indeed, no reason to capture the Caucuses at all.

IIRC, Churchill noted that if Rommel had been given free rein to pursue his strategy, Britain’s position would’ve become instantly untenable. I believe his quote was, “We would have been forced to sue for peace.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:10:56am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:12:34am
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sagehen  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:13:21am

re: #439 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

which means he deserved to die at the hands of summary justice?

yes. also that we shouldn’t be bothered by it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:14:44am

re: #453 NO SMOCKING GUN!

There is a very good chance the November election will be a massive shitshow, giving Trump oxygen to challenge the results, which is a big reason why we need a decisive victory. slate.com

Right now, that would seem to be their best strategy: make sure that the results are easily challenged and questioned, point out evidence of irregularities and tampering in all the key states, and refuse to budge until this has all been thoroughly “investigated” by Bill Barr…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:16:07am

re: #458 sagehen

yes. also that we shouldn’t be bothered by it.

otherwise, all the good police officers will be quit and our neighborhoods will be overrun with Mau-Mau rapey-shooty gangs…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:17:28am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:19:15am

Ongoing thread

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:20:19am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:21:40am
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stpaulbear  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:23:01am

Not sure if this was posted last night but:

NYT in disarray!!

Staff members at the New York Times are publicly rebuking their newspaper for publishing an opinion piece by Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) that called for military intervention into American cities where protests over George Floyd’s death have led to further unrest.

The swift backlash, which spilled out on Twitter, came from dozens across the organization and included opinion writers, reporters, editors and magazine staffers. Several tweeted the same message — “Running this puts Black @nytimes staffers in danger” — with an image of the editorial’s headline, “Tom Cotton: Send In The Troops.”

Glad that the NYT is getting even more pushback. It was a horrible and stupid decision to run that opinion.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:24:12am

re: #396 Nojay UK

During WW1 the average German citizen didn’t know much about what was happening on the Western Front, no bombs fell on German cities, there was no “Berlin Gun” bombarding German soil. “All Quiet on the Western Front” was a regular strapline for German newspapers when nothing much happened far from their quiet streets while the death and destruction continued in Belgium and France. For that reason the idea of the Dolchstosslegende was easy to propagate after the war — how did we lose, why did we surrender when we were so obviously winning? It must have been the Jews and Bolsheviks, we were stabbed in the back! Combine that with toothless enforcement of the Versailles Treaty throughout the 1930s and the result was over forty million Soviet dead, German forces on the outskirts of Moscow and concentration and extermination camps established in Poland and elsewhere to deal with ‘undesirables’.

After the Red Army treated the Germans to Total War: Berlin Boogaloo they sat down and shut up and obeyed their masters and they haven’t started another war since. I’ve seen it said that, between the time of the Roman Empire and 1945, the longest period between armies crossing the Rhine to fight wars was sixty years. After the Soviet destruction of the Nazis and the associated atrocities in German/Axis territories, bupkis.

Wasn’t the underlying problem the fact that the Versailles Treaty contained harsh punitive measures that severely and irreparably damaged the German economy during the 1920’s? With more moderate provisions, there would likely have been no Hitler regime in the first place.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:28:20am

I know. We’ve seen enough police brutality smut the last few days to last a lifetime. But damn. Austin, TX.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:29:08am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:34:33am

re: #450 stpaulbear

That’s why I didn’t get it. It was so one-note when it didn’t have to be.

Johnson is an interesting character. He has to personally know trump from his wrestling time. It’s he specifically talking to trump? Is that an effective tone if he is?

Should he be more impassioned would he come off as an angry black man or a caraciature of his prior wrestling persona?

How is it I’m discussing wrestling and or president. GAH! There’s the problem in a damn nutshell.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:34:54am

re: #468 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Hey now, I see no reason to slander the good name of Foghorn Leghorn.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:36:27am
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garzooma  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:37:43am

re: #466 Hecuba’s daughter

Wasn’t the underlying problem the fact that the Versailles Treaty contained harsh punitive measures that severely and irreparably damaged the German economy during the 1920’s? With more moderate provisions, there would likely have been no Hitler regime in the first place.

I read a book Dark Continent: Europe’s Twentieth Century by Mark Mazower, a professor at Columbia, that pointed out that most of the continent had succumbed to authoritarian rule of one form or another, Versailles Treaty or no.

I marveled that people would give up their freedom so readily. And then I saw Trump.

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:39:38am

Holy shit, Giuliani has lost his mind. When you make fucking Piers Morgan look good, you’re looking pretty deranged.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:40:33am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:42:22am

re: #469 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Johnson is an interesting character. He has to personally know trump from his wrestling time. It’s he specifically talking to trump? Is that an effective tone if he is?

Should he be more impassioned would he come off as an angry black man or a caraciature of his prior wrestling persona?

How is it I’m discussing wrestling and or president. GAH! There’s the problem in a damn nutshell.

Trump was only involved with WWE very briefly and never in any storylines involving Johnson. If they met, Trump probably doesn’t even remember it.

I think you hit the nail on the head where he didn’t want to come off as too energetic or passionate because people would assume he was “just acting” or “just doing a wrestling promo” and not being serious about things.

There are folks who still think Trump is reachable, maybe Johnson is one of them.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:42:37am
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jaunte  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:42:38am

re: #474 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I thought the original Napoleonic intent of L’Enfant’s wide boulevards was to allow artillery fire against protestors.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:43:59am

re: #476 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“Mr. Trump, tear down this wall!”

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Nojay UK  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:44:40am

re: #466 Hecuba’s daughter

Every European nation’s economy, not just Germany’s was in the toilet after an all-out war that diverted wealth, production and manpower into blowing stuff up for four years. The Versailles Treaty was meant to prevent the Germans (who were clearly the aggressors) from doing it again. The financial penalties in the treaty were an artefact of history — the victorious Prussians demanded and got five billion gold marks from the defeated French after the war in 1871, this was the exact same sum in reparations demanded from the Germans in the Versailles Treaty although that sum was never actually fully paid. Going even further back five billion gold marks was what Napoleon demanded from the Prussians after they were defeated back in 1805.

In the end the US, looking for financial advantages in Europe, made loans to the Weimar and later Nazi government to fund German development and industrialisation in the early 1930s. Those funds were diverted into militarisation and weapons production, something else the Versailles Treaty was supposed to prevent — for example there was a ban on German military forces in the Rhineland abutting France and Belgium, the two greatest victims of the German war machine in WW1 but by the time the Wehrmacht marched into the Rhineland in 1936 the Treaty was a dead letter and another war was inevitable.

The Treaty was standard operating procedure for European wars — the loser paid the price for losing, to the winner went the spoils but the leaders of both sides remained in power. The next war though, the Soviets weren’t so tender-hearted when they took Berlin, they were after blood not reparations.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:46:44am

His “instinct”

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:47:36am

‘I no longer want to be in the same room with him.’ Holy crap.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:48:24am

re: #476 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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you dont do this unless you’re afraid ‘something might happen’

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:48:26am

re: #470 Dr Lizardo

Hey now, I see no reason to slander the good name of Foghorn Leghorn.

I think he was my former senator.

(God, I love saying “former”.)

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:49:14am

Greets and saluts from the humid NYC metro area. As is customary, fuck Trump, fuck the GOP, and fuck the enabling media. They’re flinging all manner of bulkshit hoping some of it sticks so that Trump gets reelected despite the neverending shitshow of failure, incompetence, malevolence, and criminal conduct.

Protests continue nationwide, and there continue to be police involved shootings, excessive force at protests all around the nation. There’s been a bunch of attacks on cops too - particularly in NYC. Three NYPD officers have either been stabbed or shot at by persons, and that only adds to the ratcheting up of tensions.

Not only is Trump a fuckup, but we’ve got a fucked up dynamic between police, prosecutors, politicians, and the communities they’re all supposed to be serving. Everyone wants to wear mantle of law and order, but politicians are wary of holding cops accountable for their crimes - they get targeted by right wingers, cops, and prosecutors for being pro-criminal, anti-cop, instead of being law and order.

Cops and their unions are even less willing to be held accountable when their own break the law.

This has to change.

We’re seeing that change begin, and it’s something to behold - in places like Newark NJ police are working with the community to not only keep protests peaceful, but to work with the communities to address their concerns. Ferguson just elected the first African American woman mayor - a double historic event - it’s the first woman and first African American to ever hold office in that city.

But electing politicians that want to change policing and fight institutional racism is just the start. You have to get buy-in from law enforcement and prosecutors, and that’s a much harder nut to break mostly because the law protects cops from consequences of their actions (qualified immunity), and union contracts that make it all but impossible to fire bad cops, and a wall of silence that protects bad cops. That’s critical to dealing with all of this going forward, and none of it is easy when you have a normal functioning government. It’s even harder when you have a lawless WH occupant willing to send in the military to break skulls, giving cops the green light to do same knowing they are buoyed by Trump’s words.

The GOP must be defeated in November - utterly and completely, and the ongoing protests show just how. It shows how weak Trump truly is, how he doesn’t get what’s going on, and that his failures are magnified by the fact that he’s building a prison for himself. The WH belongs to all Americans, not him - and shutting down streets and putting up fencing so he can’t see protests is anti-American. He can’t take the criticism. His fragile ego can’t take the sustained beatings. Fuck ‘em. And fuck all the enabling GOPers who are pushing for fascist solutions. And fuck the Times for elevating fascist solutions - we know where the Times editorial staff stands, and it’s not on the side that protects Americans.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:49:24am

re: #482 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

you dont do this unless you’re afraid ‘something might happen’

Biden should promise to tear down the wall and make Trump pay for it.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:51:14am

re: #482 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

you dont do this unless you’re afraid ‘something might happen’

1. Trump is a coward.
2. Government buildings don’t have walls but palaces do.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:51:43am

re: #482 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

you dont do this unless you’re afraid ‘something might happen’

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I’m waiting for Sr. Fox to post on You Tube that he will pay for the wall…around the fucking White House!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:52:37am

re: #484 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the humid NYC metro area. As is customary, fuck Trump, fuck the GOP, and fuck the enabling media. They’re flinging all manner of bulkshit hoping some of it sticks so that Trump gets reelected despite the neverending shitshow of failure, incompetence, malevolence, and criminal conduct.

Protests continue nationwide, and there continue to be police involved shootings, excessive force at protests all around the nation. There’s been a bunch of attacks on cops too - particularly in NYC. Three NYPD officers have either been stabbed or shot at by persons, and that only adds to the ratcheting up of tensions.

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Not only is Trump a fuckup, but we’ve got a fucked up dynamic between police, prosecutors, politicians, and the communities they’re all supposed to be serving. Everyone wants to wear mantle of law and order, but politicians are wary of holding cops accountable for their crimes - they get targeted by right wingers, cops, and prosecutors for being pro-criminal, anti-cop, instead of being law and order.

Cops and their unions are even less willing to be held accountable when their own break the law.

This has to change.

We’re seeing that change begin, and it’s something to behold - in places like Newark NJ police are working with the community to not only keep protests peaceful, but to work with the communities to address their concerns. Ferguson just elected the first African American woman mayor - a double historic event - it’s the first woman and first African American to ever hold office in that city.

But electing politicians that want to change policing and fight institutional racism is just the start. You have to get buy-in from law enforcement and prosecutors, and that’s a much harder nut to break mostly because the law protects cops from consequences of their actions (qualified immunity), and union contracts that make it all but impossible to fire bad cops, and a wall of silence that protects bad cops. That’s critical to dealing with all of this going forward, and none of it is easy when you have a normal functioning government. It’s even harder when you have a lawless WH occupant willing to send in the military to break skulls, giving cops the green light to do same knowing they are buoyed by Trump’s words.

The GOP must be defeated in November - utterly and completely, and the ongoing protests show just how. It shows how weak Trump truly is, how he doesn’t get what’s going on, and that his failures are magnified by the fact that he’s building a prison for himself. The WH belongs to all Americans, not him - and shutting down streets and putting up fencing so he can’t see protests is anti-American. He can’t take the criticism. His fragile ego can’t take the sustained beatings. Fuck ‘em. And fuck all the enabling GOPers who are pushing for fascist solutions. And fuck the Times for elevating fascist solutions - we know where the Times editorial staff stands, and it’s not on the side that protects Americans.

The cops learned how to escalate before the mid-70s. It’s not an accident.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:55:12am

re: #381 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:56:12am

So it is being spun as black and white.

Looters vs Law and Order
Anarchists vs Patriots
Deep State Elites vs Outsiders
The Godless vs the Godly

Black vs White

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:56:15am

A cage going up around the WH. That’s one imprisoned child I’m ok with.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:56:39am
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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:57:58am

re: #476 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I pointed this out yesterday. He’s building himself a prison to keep himself in. Protests have revealed just how weak Trump is. Bringing in heavily armed BOP, CBP, ICE, and straight up military personnel to man the battlements shows just how weak Trump is. He can’t take protests. His fragile ego can’t take it.

He’s revealing himself as an empty ill-fitting suit, which we all knew before this.

The fencing is symbolic of just how far Trump’s fallen. He thinks the fencing is a way to restore order, when all it does is show how weak he is. He has to hide behind an expanding fence because the protests are not going to go away.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:59:06am

Someone should do a cartoon with the fence extended up to look like a birdcage.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 7:59:07am

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:03:56am

re: #494 Belafon

Someone should do a cartoon with the fence extended up to look like a birdcage.

Or a toddler enclosure

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:05:17am

Trump is singing this in his bunker.

sonichits.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:05:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:05:43am

did you exchange
claiming bone spurs to dodge the war
for a lead role in a cage?

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:07:45am

re: #499 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

did you exchange
claiming bone spurs to dodge the war
for a lead role in a cage?

Song title has to be “Wish You were Gone” though.

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:08:16am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:08:24am

re: #486 Belafon

1. Trump is a coward.
2. Government buildings don’t have walls but palaces do.

Wait until the moat is completed.

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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:09:29am

re: #485 Belafon

Biden should promise to tear down the wall and make Trump pay for it.

He can walk up to it and repeat a classic Presidential line:

“MR. TRUMP, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!!!”

And I’m not going to take (or make) any sucker bets as to when the “BUILD THE WALL” cartoons are going to be flooding out..

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:10:12am

re: #498 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:10:50am

re: #460 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

otherwise, all the good police officers will be quit and our neighborhoods will be overrun with Mau-Mau rapey-shooty gangs…

Mau-Maus don’t shoot; they use machetes.

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:11:26am
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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:15:49am

re: #501 lawhawk

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These canisters were collected by reporters from a DC TV station?

There we are: Cornyn can (and probably will) simply dismiss it as “fake news” from the “Lamestream Media”.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:16:32am

re: #506 lawhawk

We would have first just said “Yeah, that dumb uncle deserved it.” I know, because I had that uncle. Now, if a cop had jumped out and shot a 10 year old white boy who was playing with a toy gun, that would have been when we’d demanded change.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:19:14am

I do also think that what is different this time is that people are reacting to the authoritarian nature of Trump and the local police forces. Had they not overreacted, white people would have gotten bored much sooner.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:21:24am

re: #509 Belafon

I do also think that what is different this time is that people are reacting to the authoritarian nature of Trump and the local police forces. Had they not overreacted, white people would have gotten bored much sooner.

We also don’t yet see the astroturfed “hard-hat Democrats” in play.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:23:04am

re: #493 lawhawk

I pointed this out yesterday. He’s building himself a prison to keep himself in. Protests have revealed just how weak Trump is. Bringing in heavily armed BOP, CBP, ICE, and straight up military personnel to man the battlements shows just how weak Trump is. He can’t take protests. His fragile ego can’t take it.

He’s revealing himself as an empty ill-fitting suit, which we all knew before this.

The fencing is symbolic of just how far Trump’s fallen. He thinks the fencing is a way to restore order, when all it does is show how weak he is. He has to hide behind an expanding fence because the protests are not going to go away.

it’s not just about weakness. it’s fear.

this is no symbol of greatness
it is not a statement of strength
or triumph
or success
or anything good and noble

you put up a fence like this because you are afraid something might happen

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:25:59am

re: #501 lawhawk

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you know what’s next, right?

prove the police actually used them and left the canisters.
that you didnt just take them out of your backpack and photograph them
//

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:26:21am

re: #501 lawhawk

Lmao

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:27:19am

re: #507 Jay C

These canisters were collected by reporters from a DC TV station?

There we are: Cornyn can (and probably will) simply dismiss it as “fake news” from the “Lamestream Media”.

beat me to it

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:28:03am

re: #511 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

it’s not just about weakness. it’s fear.

this is no symbol of greatness
it is not a statement of strength
or triumph
or success
or anything good and noble

you put up a fence like this because you are afraid something might happen

Precisely. Trump is BunkerBitch to his core.

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calochortus  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:29:14am

re: #513 GlutenFreeJesus

Lmao

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It’s Friday in DC? It’s only Thursday here in CA.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:29:36am

re: #512 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

you know what’s next, right?

prove the police actually used them and left the canisters.
that you didnt just take them out of your backpack and photograph them
//

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There’s nothing like a real chain of custody, but those canisters are likely to have LE fingerprints somewhere. (Unless they’ve been completely borked.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:30:03am
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:30:28am

re: #516 calochortus

It’s Friday in DC? It’s only Thursday here in CA.

It is on their world I guess.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:31:13am

re: #517 Decatur Deb

There’s nothing like a real chain of custody, but those canisters are likely to have LE fingerprints somewhere. (Unless they’ve been completely borked.)

The discussion here is not that the President violated the 1st Amendment rights of peaceful protesters, it is just a matter of what sort of weapons his security forces used to violate them.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:32:48am

Cornholio is like every other Republican Senator except Romney.

All of those 53 useless rubber stamps will continue to kiss Trump’s ass no matter what.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:33:17am

re: #520 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The discussion is not that the President violated the 1st Amendment rights of peaceful protesters, it is just a matter of what sort of weapons they used to violate them.

It’s a matter of how deep the lying goes in the Fed bureaucracy. The first denials came from Park Police hierarchy.

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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:34:17am

re: #517 Decatur Deb

There’s nothing like a real chain of custody, but those canisters are likely to have LE fingerprints somewhere. (Unless they’ve been completely borked.)

Are they?
Given that, if only for COVID-19 protection - still more standard protocols when handling CW - said LE is very likely to have been gloved?
Though WUSA’s people have had to think it through by now that any evidence they publicize is going to be immediately disparaged/dismissed.

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:34:36am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:34:58am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:35:22am

re: #516 calochortus

It’s Friday in DC? It’s only Thursday here in CA.

It’s not even Friday in Russia. So this is a Chinese troll.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:35:29am

re: #523 Jay C

Are they?
Given that, if only for COVID-19 protection - still more standard protocols when handling CW - said LE is very likely to have been gloved?
Though WUSA’s people have had to think it through by now that any evidence they publicize is going to be immediately disparaged/dismissed.

Most cops shown are gloved. Most supply sergeants won’t be.

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jaunte  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:35:40am
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jaunte  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:36:16am

GOP daren’t let go of the Southern Strategy.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:38:12am

re: #528 jaunte

Wouldn’t that be something if every big city told them to take a hike.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:39:32am

re: #528 jaunte

We should remind them that Dallas is one of the few cities that actually convicts cops for murder.

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calochortus  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:39:43am

re: #528 jaunte

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Hahahahahahahaha.

How many people should be attending this here convention? 20,000? 50,000? Where will they find the hotel rooms, conference facilities and giant arena to put them all in? Especially if they aren’t looking at the larger cities.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:39:51am

re: #528 jaunte

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What? They’re skipping over Branson?

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:39:58am

re: #530 GlutenFreeJesus

Wouldn’t that be something if every big city told them to take a hike.

Dallas will say no and Abbott will attempt to override that.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:40:18am

re: #530 GlutenFreeJesus

Wouldn’t that be something if every big city told them to take a hike.

Even in the exConfederacy, many of the larger, more capable, cites have Black majorities and leadership—Montgomery, Birmingham, Atlanta, NOLA.

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jaunte  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:40:19am

re: #533 Joe Bacon 🌹

I know, right? It would be perfect.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:40:25am

re: #530 GlutenFreeJesus

Wouldn’t that be something if every big city told them to take a hike.

They will find a taker. And I will feel sorry for the poor residents of that soon-to-be Covid hotspot…

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:41:32am

re: #528 jaunte

And imagine the Dallas County judge and the city’s response to this many people.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:41:53am

re: #534 Belafon

Dallas will say no and Abbott will attempt to override that.

They may say Dallas but the Dallas Cowboys AT&T Stadium and the new indoor Ranger baseball stadium are in Arlington (Tarrant County) which is still run by the Reds and have already said they want it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:43:00am

re: #537 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will find a taker. And I will feel sorry for the poor residents of that soon-to-be Covid hotspot…

Hey I hear Moscow is interested and Uncle Vlad can make the arrangements!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:43:08am

re: #518 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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they’re gonna need to move the new fence to Bedminster

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:43:56am

re: #520 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The discussion here is not that the President violated the 1st Amendment rights of peaceful protesters, it is just a matter of what sort of weapons his security forces used to violate them.

accidentally or on purpose, look at how we’re talking…

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:44:54am

re: #359 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

I’m hearing-impaired. Severely. It’s occurred to me that when I hear a loud noise, or when I perceive someone is trying to talk to me, I stop and stand still. Every time.

Does the guy in the truck WANT an incident?

This has happened before. Deaf people have been shot this way. When we had a representative of the police at my town commission on disabilities, I strongly suggested that none of us wanted this kind of incident to happen.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:45:24am

Lots of friends are complaining that their anti-Trump remarks aren’t getting posted on Facebook.

I wonder why…

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steve_davis  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:46:37am

re: #288 Jay C

And it’s probably the wrong Pope, too:

I thought the shrine the Trumps defiled visited was that for Pope St. John Paul II ( the Polish guy), not John XXIII, who was someone else.

Wassamatta, Rudy? Can’t tell your pontiffs without a (illustrated) scorecard?

Moron.

wasn’t john XXIII the renegade pope mentioned in Name of the Rose? Pretty sure the Catholics aren’t honoring him with a shrine.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:46:44am

re: #533 Joe Bacon 🌹

What? They’re skipping over Branson?

there’s still time

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:46:45am

re: #533 Joe Bacon 🌹

Probably not large enough to host a convention involving 15-20000 people. Branson’s convention center can hold at max 4,000 people.

You need a NBA sized arena for a convention, so that means D1 basketball team arenas are in play in many parts of the country, plus actual NBA arenas. Outdoor stadiums are not likely due to the possibility of weather during the convention.

That necessarily limits the locations that could potentially host, as well as flights to/from (you want someplace that has a lot of direct flights from major cities/hubs).

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:47:57am

Good.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:48:34am

re: #545 steve_davis

wasn’t john XXIII the renegade pope mentioned in Name of the Rose? Pretty sure the Catholics aren’t honoring him with a shrine.

There are two J XXIIIs. One bad one from the Great Schism, and a good one from the 1960s.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:49:50am

re: #535 Decatur Deb

Even in the exConfederacy, many of the larger, more capable, cites have Black majorities and leadership—Montgomery, Birmingham, Atlanta, NOLA.

After the whites took flight. Go figure!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:50:59am

re: #548 makeitstop

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:52:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:52:51am

re: #548 makeitstop

White man charged with murder of unarmed US black man Ahmaud Arbery used racial slur after shooting him,

But black rappers use that word all the time and they’re always shootin’ each other!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:53:25am

her thread has broken up

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:54:40am
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Sherlock Hound  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:54:56am

re: #406 Shropshire Slasher

And what happened after that?

Some people consider him a political prisoner.

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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:56:45am

re: #545 steve_davis

wasn’t john XXIII the renegade pope mentioned in Name of the Rose? Pretty sure the Catholics aren’t honoring him with a shrine.

Yes and no. I think the story is that there was a 14th(?)-Century Pope John XXIII, but he had got on the Throne of Peter in some irregular manner (probably, in those days, by force; or bribery - or possibly both), and was later struck off the books as an “antipope”. When Angelo Roncalli became Pope in 1958, he took the name “John XXIII” as being the proper numbering.

Fun Fact: There never was a “Pope John XX”. Medieval church historians cleaning up the rolls of the pontiffs mistakenly counted one Pope (John XIV, I think) twice.

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:56:53am

Meanwhile, in mundane weather news, yesterday’s severe storms that hit PA and NJ have been classified as a derecho - 300 miles of severe storms that generated sustained winds above 58 mph for most/all of that time. Highest reported gusts were 89 mph (which is is at high end of a Cat 1 hurricane or even EF-1 tornado)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:57:40am

re: #555 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

GBI agent said investigators interviewed witnesses in the neighborhood that say they had seen Ahmaud Arbery running in the neighborhood before

running from what? obviously from a crime!

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steve_davis  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:58:08am

re: #310 Belafon

The front of Guitar Center’s wesite has a Black Lives Matter banner that links to this statement:

guitarcenter.com

in my experience, guitar center fucks everyone over equally, regardless of creed or color.

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Citizen K  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:58:48am

More indication that the NYTimes is utterly broken, from the top down:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 8:59:10am

re: #559 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

running from what? obviously from a crime!

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Decatur Deb  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:00:19am

re: #557 Jay C

Yes and no. I think the story is that there was a 14th(?)-Century Pope John XXIII, but he had got on the Throne of Peter in some irregular manner (probably, in those days, by force; or bribery - or possibly both), and was later struck off the books as an “antipope”. When Angelo Roncalli became Pope in 1958, he took the name “John XXIII” as being the proper numbering.

Fun Fact: There never was a “Pope John XX”. Medieval church historians cleaning up the rolls of the pontiffs mistakenly counted one Pope (John XIV, I think) twice.

He was one of the Avignon popes, elected by an anti-Roman faction until Catherine of Siena told them to knock that shit off.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:00:28am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:00:34am

re: #562 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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OFFS.

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steve_davis  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:01:10am

re: #314 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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drew brees is gonna spend the entire season running like hell due to an underperforming o-line.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:02:10am

re: #562 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Defense Attorneys for Travis McMichael asked about the clothes Ahmaud Arbery was seen running in and if cargo shorts were normal for him to run in.

Reminds me of the underwear-shaming rape defense.

in Ireland…a man was acquitted of raping a 17-year-old.

In the trial, the defence lawyer told the jury: “You have to look at the way she was dressed. She was wearing a thong with a lace front.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:03:04am

re: #562 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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are they really going for “he was dressed like he was asking for it”?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:03:49am

I went to a vigil last night. Some Trumpers showed up trying to stir up shit. I didn’t see it but someone also saw a CSA flag. But mostly I’m encouraged and I was proud to be with my youngest brother and his girlfriend, I’ve never seen him so angry at current events. I’m hoping we get a turnout that wipes Trump and many prominent GOP assholes from office.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:04:16am

re: #567 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Reminds me of the underwear-shaming rape defense.

in Ireland…a man was acquitted of raping a 17-year-old.

In the trial, the defence lawyer told the jury: “You have to look at the way she was dressed. She was wearing a thong with a lace front.

by one minute….

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:04:22am

re: #568 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

are they really going for “he dressed like he was asking for it”?

No, it’s “He wasn’t actually exercising, look at his clothes. Would you exercise in cargo shorts?” And the answer is when I was his age, yes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:06:00am

I can’t speak for all media outlets but it is generally the case that the reporters don’t write the headlines (it’s usually the layout folks that do) and I can tell you dozens upon dozens of stories about reporters who got pissed off because layout or whoever came up with a stupid misleading headline to an otherwise strong and fair story.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:06:34am
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Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:07:01am

re: #560 steve_davis

in my experience, guitar center fucks everyone over equally, regardless of creed or color.

Just for shits and giggles when I was running my daughter to club gymnastics in Harrisburg Pa I walked my Fender Super Sonic 60 Watt 1X12 combo in just to see what they would offer. No way I was selling it, I just wanted to see the offer.
The “manager” looked at it, (mint) and said he’d be right back.
I’m sure he went on ebay.
Came back and offered me $325.00.
With the straightest face I could manage I said “That’s a good price.”
I let him say “Yes.”
Then I said “If I was a junkie and the amp was hot.”
He got mad.
Then I would go into his store and walk around about once a week.
For shits and giggles.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:07:47am

re: #568 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

are they really going for “he was dressed like he was asking for it”?

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Either that or trying to imply the shorts were stolen and he was indeed guilty of a crime.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:08:35am

re: #572 Eclectic Cyborg

I can’t speak for all media outlets but it is generally the case that the reporters don’t write the headlines (it’s usually the layout folks that do) and I can tell you dozens upon dozens of stories about reporters who got pissed off because layout or whoever came up with a stupid misleading headline to an otherwise strong and fair story.

Correct. Headlines are different than content. Some of what I used as headers got kept when I was in college but I had it changed too. A lot of what troubles me about modern journalistic practices is clicks matter more than the story himself. It’s why our social media accounts get filled with people who post ten articles a day but I doubt actually read the stories.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:09:01am

re: #574 Allow me to light that for you…

Just for shits and giggles when I was running my daughter to club gymnastics in Harrisburg Pa I walked my Fender Super Sonic 60 Watt 1X12 combo in just to see what they would offer. No way I was selling it, I just wanted to see the offer.
The “manager” looked at it, (mint) and said he’d be right back.
I’m sure he went on ebay.
Came back and offered me $325.00.
With the straightest face I could manage I said “That’s a good price.”
I let him say “Yes.”
Then I said “If I was a junkie and the amp was hot.”
He got mad.
Then I would go into his store and walk around about once a week.
For shits and giggles.

What do you think you would have gotten at another store?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:09:25am

re: #573 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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But we owe DeSanittis an apology so say the dickbrains at NRO!

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jaunte  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:09:26am

re: #561 Citizen K

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:09:32am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:10:26am

re: #579 jaunte

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Tom Cotton (F) Arkansas

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:11:10am

re: #545 steve_davis

wasn’t john XXIII the renegade pope mentioned in Name of the Rose? Pretty sure the Catholics aren’t honoring him with a shrine.

He’s a saint, he can have one. No idea whether he does or where it is.

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Allow me to light that for you...  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:11:20am

re: #577 Belafon

I could sell it on Ebay for about $700-800 at that time. Probably that much on Craigslist. It was 7 or 8 years ago. You never come out good selling to a store outright. Especially GC.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:11:57am

re: #525 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Mark Zuckerberg Announces Virtual Roundtable With American Hate Groups To Better Understand How They Work

He’s already done it. He met with Trumpco. Come on Onion, do better. (//)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:12:47am
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:13:07am

re: #549 Decatur Deb

There are two J XXIIIs. One bad one from the Great Schism, and a good one from the 1960s.

Both renegades, each in his own special way.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:13:38am

re: #575 Eclectic Cyborg

Either that or trying to imply the shorts were stolen and he was indeed guilty of a crime.

in all seriousness i still dont see how ANY of this morphs into it’s ok to ‘detain’ him with (or without) a shotgun

no threat to property.
no imminent threat to anyone’s life
no danger
no ‘fear for my safety’

call 911 hang back and wait.
follow if you think you must.
if the police dont think it merits a response from them, there’s a reason why

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:14:23am

re: #585 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Open auditions to be the new Susan Collins I guess.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:15:04am

re: #587 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

in all seriousness i still dont see how ANY of this morphs into it’s ok to ‘detain’ him with (or without) a shotgun

no threat to property.
no imminent threat to anyone’s life
no danger
no ‘fear for my safety’

call 911 hang back and wait.
follow if you think you must.
if the police dont think it merits a response from them, there’s a reason why

Just another motherfucker with a a gun who thinks he’s above the law.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:16:05am

re: #589 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Just another white motherfucker with a a gun who thinks he’s above the law.

just helpin out…

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Mike Lamb  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:16:33am

re: #476 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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But Obama has a gate around his house too! It’s samesies.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:19:16am

re: #481 makeitstop

‘I no longer want to be in the same room with him.’ Holy crap.

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Maybe it’s because of Trump’s aroma from his Scheissehosen.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:20:10am

re: #561 Citizen K

More indication that the NYTimes is utterly broken, from the top down:

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I’ll keep saying it because of the contempt I have for that propaganda rag.

FUCK THE NEW YORK TIMES!

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gocart mozart  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:20:13am
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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:22:29am

re: #563 Decatur Deb

He was one of the Avignon popes, elected by an anti-Roman faction until Catherine of Siena told them to knock that shit off.

Actually, a quick wiki reminded me that Antipope John XXIII (Baldassarre Cossa, d. 1419) was neither an Avignon nor a Roman Pope: but was a sort of third-way pontiff elected as successor to a would-be compromise candidate. Whom both the Avignon and Roman Popes ignored. Until some more warfare settled the issue.
Old Baldo was quite the character… RTWT

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:23:23am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:24:04am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:26:47am
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Citizen K  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:28:53am

re: #596 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Oh fucking hell. Are they really…

No, no, of course they’re going to imply that Arbery just snapped out of nowhere and that he just HAD to be put down, like some wild animal. Because that’s all they basically see black bodies as: wild animals to be put down.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:29:07am

re: #597 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Trump isn’t the first president to face these issues. He’s just bad at responding.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:29:35am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:29:51am

re: #600 Belafon

Trump isn’t the first president to face these issues. He’s just bad at responding.

Exactly. Because all he knows how to do is make things worse.

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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:30:26am

re: #588 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Open auditions to be the new Susan Collins I guess.

Well, according to polling, there probably will be an opening for that position next year…

FWIW, Murkowski is up for reelection this year, for what will be, in effect, a fourth term, but Alaska is considered “Safe R” - so why she should even bother (one way or another) is a question.
Republicans…..

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:32:32am

re: #598 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Once again, more whoring for the rich from the Communist Republican Asshole Party…yes folks the C.R.A.P. never stops from these crooks!

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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:32:49am

re: #597 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Well, nowadays democracy IS “under siege”.
It’s just that today, the threat is coming from INSIDE the White House fence…..

ETA: re: #609 Hecuba’s daughter GMTA.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:33:06am

re: #599 Citizen K

Oh fucking hell. Are they really…

No, no, of course they’re going to imply that Arbery just snapped out of nowhere and that he just HAD to be put down, like some wild animal. Because that’s all they basically see black bodies as: wild animals to be put down.

its still an insane defense

how would they have known?

and even if he had some ‘mental illness’ how does ‘i’ll stop him with a shotgun” fit in?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:33:19am
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Alephnaught  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:35:58am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

FUCK TRUMP!

From my previous comment on the previous thread:

re: #2 I Would Prefer Not To

Thank you. I can’t be first all the time.

I remember, in the olden days, when in Slashdot, a new thread was posted, the first comment would inevitably be “First!!!”, which eventually became Flanderized as “FRIST!!!11!!ELEVNETY!!!111!!”

I think “FUCK TRUMP” is a genuine evolution on that. And I say this as Glaswegian. After all, a fellow Glaswegian had famously flagged Trump for what he really is, before he was even elected as POTUS. (NSFW content hidden below.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:36:06am

re: #597 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Michael Beschloss
@BeschlossDC
After Pearl Harbor 1941, FDR refused suggestions to surround the White House with light tanks because it might look as if our democracy was under siege:

Our democracy is under siege. And the siege is happening from within the house!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:37:17am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:37:22am

re: #395 makeitstop

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My guess - they’ll run away from questions, or just not show up in public at all.

and here is graham:

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) pushed back on former Defense Secretary James Mattis’s criticism of President Trump over the handling of nationwide protests against police brutality, The Hill reports.

Said Graham: “I think you’re missing something here my friend. You’re missing the fact that the liberal media has taken every event in the last three and half years and laid it at the president’s feet. I’m not saying he’s blameless, but I am saying that you’re buying into a narrative that I think is quite frankly unfair.”

um…what?????

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:38:03am

Lre: #601 Teddy’s Person

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He really is a decent man. The thing I love most about Biden is time and time again he reveals himself to be a person who understands he is not above the office he seeks. He’s going to be a good President.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:38:20am

re: #611 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Wait, Mad Dog Mattis is the LIBERAL MEDIA?

The fuck?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:39:08am

re: #605 Jay C

Well, nowadays democracy IS “under siege”.
It’s just that today, the threat is coming from INSIDE the White House fence…..

GMTA!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:39:54am

re: #611 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

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and here is graham:

um…what?????

Wah wah, Trump is always the victim. God these guys are pathetic in their bootlicking of Trump. Gonna be real nice when Lindsay gets defeated in the fall.

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Citizen K  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:41:05am

re: #606 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

its still an insane defense

how would they have known?

and even if he had some ‘mental illness’ how does ‘i’ll stop him with a shotgun” fit in?

Insane, but considering how often the whole superhuman attribution is given to Black Males to justify violence against them, under the defense of ‘I feared for my life’, and how often that’s worked in getting cops off the hook, it’s a effective defense.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:41:25am

from politicalwire.com

The Republican National Committee is planning site visits over the next 10 days to more than a half-dozen cities — across the South and into Texas and Arizona — as it scrambles for a new convention host,” Axios reports.

“The cities under consideration include Jacksonville, Phoenix, Dallas, Nashville, Atlanta and possibly New Orleans and Savannah.”

and host/moderator taegan goddard nails it in one

“This could really be a disaster for the GOP on so many levels. First, there’s a pandemic. Second, there are angry protesters everywhere. Third, there’s really not enough time to plan a convention - it usually takes a full year.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:42:59am

re: #611 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

“the liberal media has taken every event in the last three and half years and laid it at the president’s feet. I’m not saying he’s blameless, but I am saying that you’re buying into a narrative that I think is quite frankly unfair.”

When you are POTUS and C-in-C, then you are responsible for everything

But he has made it clear the the Buck Stops Elsewhere

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Teddy's Person  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:44:16am

re: #612 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

L

He really is a decent man. The thing I love most about Biden is time and time again he reveals himself to be a person who understands he is not above the office he seeks. He’s going to be a good President.

I suspect it’s an old video since no one is wearing a mask. But Joe hasn’t changed.

I was on an other site watching a short clip of police in Lincoln NE dancing with protesters and briefly thought “is this from the current protests?” Then I realized everyone was wearing a mask and was like yeah it’s current. That’s going to be helpful in sorting through stuff that gets posted on social media.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:45:14am

re: #599 Citizen K

Oh fucking hell. Are they really…

No, no, of course they’re going to imply that Arbery just snapped out of nowhere and that he just HAD to be put down, like some wild animal. Because that’s all they basically see black bodies as: wild animals to be put down.

they hunted him

…outlined the events that led to Arbery’s death and told the court that before Arbery was shot, the three men charged in his murder engaged in an elaborate chase, hitting the 25-year-old jogger with a truck as he repeatedly tried to avoid them.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:45:46am

re: #617 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

from politicalwire.com

and host/moderator taegan goddard nails it in one

“This could really be a disaster for the GOP on so many levels. First, there’s a pandemic. Second, there are angry protesters everywhere. Third, there’s really not enough time to plan a convention - it usually takes a full year.”

Fourth, there’s a handful of cities that he stiffed on security costs so I’m thinking that they’re not real anxious to have him back.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:45:58am

re: #617 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

from politicalwire.com

and host/moderator taegan goddard nails it in one

“This could really be a disaster for the GOP on so many levels. First, there’s a pandemic. Second, there are angry protesters everywhere. Third, there’s really not enough time to plan a convention - it usually takes a full year.”

Yep, it could be so bad it ends up making the Fyre Festival look competently managed.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:48:25am

re: #619 Teddy’s Person

I suspect it’s an old video since no one is wearing a mask. But Joe hasn’t changed.

I was on an other site watching a short clip of police in Lincoln NE dancing with protesters and briefly thought “is this from the current protests?” Then I realized everyone was wearing a mask and was like yeah it’s current. That’s going to be helpful in sorting through stuff that gets posted on social media.

It’s older. I think it was in South Carolina. I’ll be honest here. I really think a lot of people underestimated Biden as being the best to beat Trump. He wasn’t my first choice but with the way things turned out, I’m happy that he’s our nominee. Because it’s not just Joe. It’s about who he will have on his team and it’s whose opinions he will value too.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:48:44am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:50:45am

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KGxvi  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:51:38am

re: #613 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, Mad Dog Mattis is the LIBERAL MEDIA?

The fuck?

No True Scotsman looks through the Overton Window

If you disagree with me on this you are (depending on my standing) either a dirty commie or an evil fascist. Because, see, I am the true arbiter of all that is good and wholesome.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:52:43am
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KGxvi  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:53:32am

re: #617 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

The way things are going, the RNC in Jacksonville seems like the most on brand decision imaginable.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:53:32am

re: #623 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s older. I think it was in South Carolina. I’ll be honest here. I really think a lot of people underestimated Biden as being the best to beat Trump. He wasn’t my first choice but with the way things turned out, I’m happy that he’s our nominee. Because it’s not just Joe. It’s about who he will have on his team and it’s whose opinions he will value too.

I’m with you. Not my firsts choice, but definitely in the pool of candidates that I thought had the right stuff. I’m planning to look for ways to remotely volunteer for Joe and my House rep over the summer. I will proudly cast my vote for Joe come November.

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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:54:17am

re: #613 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, Mad Dog Mattis is the LIBERAL MEDIA?

The fuck?

Trump signaled this morning that it was ok to attack Mattis.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:54:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:55:19am

re: #630 Belafon

Trump signaled this morning that it was ok to attack Mattis.

He is now a mebver of the Deep State Establishment Elite

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:56:13am

re: #632 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is now a mebver of the Deep State Establishment Elite

and liberal media according to lindsey

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EPR-radar  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:56:15am

re: #617 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

from politicalwire.com

and host/moderator taegan goddard nails it in one

“This could really be a disaster for the GOP on so many levels. First, there’s a pandemic. Second, there are angry protesters everywhere. Third, there’s really not enough time to plan a convention - it usually takes a full year.”

May the GOP convention this year turn into a disaster for the party 10x worse than 1968 was for the Democrats.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:56:44am

I don’t Facebook, so social media question. What does it mean to have the #1 post on Facebook?

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KGxvi  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:57:28am

re: #627 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

When was the last time that a sitting member of Congress actually endorsed a presidential nominee from the other party?

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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:57:35am

re: #635 Teddy’s Person

I don’t Facebook, so social media question. What does it mean to have the #1 post on Facebook?

Does it mean something like “winning the Internets”??

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Teddy's Person  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:58:37am

LOOTER

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:58:54am

re: #635 Teddy’s Person

I don’t Facebook, so social media question. What does it mean to have the #1 post on Facebook?

It means it becomes a news item in and of itself…

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 4, 2020 • 9:59:57am

re: #636 KGxvi

When was the last time that a sitting member of Congress actually endorsed a presidential nominee from the other party?

no idea.
or even where /how to look for it

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:00:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:01:24am

re: #638 Teddy’s Person

Last night, CREW filed a criminal complaint against VP Pence’s chief of staff, Marc Short. The VP’s office is leading the government’s coronavirus response. New evidence shows Short met with companies whose stock he holds

The Big Short, indeed…

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Alephnaught  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:02:33am

re: #7 KGxvi

My answer got left at the bottom of the last thread:

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Big Brother and the Real Estate Holding Company

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:03:18am

re: #617 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Even a relatively small convention takes time to plan - a former colleague of mine is one of the founders of Fantastic Ostrava, a sci-fi/fantasy-themed convention that takes place every year.

It takes her and others several months to get everything lined up. As she told me, booking the convention hall where they have it is the easiest thing to do.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:04:00am

WTAF

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KGxvi  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:04:03am

re: #640 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

no idea.
or even where /how to look for it

Thinking about it, and having to check, the best I can come up with is Zell Miller endorsing W in 2004.

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stpaulbear  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:05:08am

re: #610 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Rachel Kurzius

@Curious_Kurz
Breaking: No curfew tonight in D.C., according to Mayor Bowser. This is the first time since Sunday that the District won’t have one

I bet Trump makes Mark Esper declare a curfew before the day’s over.

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jaunte  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:05:15am

Thread about farming and racism in the Corn Belt.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:05:18am

Plot Twist: George Soros will help fund the first successful Coronavirus vaccine.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:05:54am

re: #634 EPR-radar

May the GOP convention this year turn into a disaster for the party 10x worse than 1968 was for the Democrats.

I was an eyewitness to the ‘68 Dem convention. It was an epic shitshow, one that still sends shutters through Dem old-timers.
It could definitely have been worse, though. May the Republicans show the world exactly how much worse.

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KGxvi  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:06:50am

re: #648 jaunte

That the median farmer is almost a millionaire on paper isn’t very surprising. Farming requires land, often lots of land, and land is valuable.

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makeitstop  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:07:22am

re: #577 Belafon

What do you think you would have gotten at another store?

Another store might have lowballed him, but CG offers to pay the type of money you’d accept if you were absolutely desperate and had no idea what you were selling was worth.

I’d put stuff for sale up on Craig’s List before I’d take it to Guitar Center. There’s no way they will give you a fair shake.

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jaunte  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:07:45am

re: #651 KGxvi

The full thread is more interesting than the first tweet.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:08:47am
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Belafon  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:09:19am

re: #651 KGxvi

That the median farmer is almost a millionaire on paper isn’t very surprising. Farming requires land, often lots of land, and land is valuable.

Especially considering that a lot of the remaining ones have enough on hand to have survived a number of downturns.

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:09:43am

re: #635 Teddy’s Person

I don’t Facebook, so social media question. What does it mean to have the #1 post on Facebook?

It means you’ve gotten your propaganda seen/heard/viewed by potentially tens of millions of people. Since so many people now get their news from Facebook, this is exceptionally damaging - even more so because so many are willing to believe the bulkshit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:09:45am

re: #623 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s older. I think it was in South Carolina. I’ll be honest here. I really think a lot of people underestimated Biden as being the best to beat Trump. He wasn’t my first choice but with the way things turned out, I’m happy that he’s our nominee. Because it’s not just Joe. It’s about who he will have on his team and it’s whose opinions he will value too.

Recall: Trump thought that Joe would be his toughest opponent which is certainly the rationale for his call with Zelensky.

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lawhawk  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:10:30am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:11:14am

re: #636 KGxvi

When was the last time that a sitting member of Congress actually endorsed a presidential nominee from the other party?

1972—Pete McCloskey said he would vote for McGovern.

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Jay C  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:13:21am

re: #623 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’ll be honest here. I really think a lot of people underestimated Biden as being the best to beat Trump. He wasn’t my first choice but with the way things turned out, I’m happy that he’s our nominee. Because it’s not just Joe. It’s about who he will have on his team and it’s whose opinions he will value too.

Abso-friggin’-lutely. One of the big flaws with this year’s Dem primary race was (IMO) the obsession with personalities (and the BernieBro cult, but I digress), and the pigeonholing of ideological issue-flogging.There was a studied ignoring of political process and partisan structure in how the governing of this country actually operates. By everybody but Joe Biden, who has spent his life studying and operating within those structures. A huge flaw and drawback for the “revolutionaries”, who can only see “politics as usual” and tend to fall - in mirror-image of the Trumpsters- into Great Man idealizations; but (as it has turned out) what I hope will be a tremendous asset in managing post-Trump America.
Will a President Joe Biden fight hammer-and-tongs for a left-wing agenda? Probably certainly not. Will a President Biden stand in the way of (discourage/obstruct/veto) any progressive legislation a D Congress might send him? Probably not, either: and the latter
- the way things are supposed to work in the US - is probably about as best as we are going to able to do.
Still a VAST improvement over the Incompetence Fascism of Trump and the GOP.
GO JOE!!

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KGxvi  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:14:45am

re: #653 jaunte

The full thread is more interesting than the first tweet.

It is much more interesting. I’m also not surprised that farmers as business owners make more than the median worker. That’s pretty much the way it goes in any industry. Partners at big firms make more than their associates, partners at small firms make more than their associates (and often times, more than the associates at big firms).

The history of how the land and wealth were acquired is despicable, to say the least. The question is, how do we change things for the better? I’m not sure “creating a whole bunch of much smaller farmers” is necessarily the best answer - could we even treat farmers as monopolies? And if we did,how would we break them up?

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sagehen  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:15:58am

re: #640 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

no idea.
or even where /how to look for it

Joe Lieberman in 2008.

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stpaulbear  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:17:08am

re: #631 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

I deleted my Facebook account two years ago for 99% political reasons. I’ve been thinking that maybe I should rejoin after I retire in order to stay more connected with friends and local groups, but the list of reasons to fuck Facebook just keeps getting longer and longer. I really can’t justify rejoining.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 4, 2020 • 10:39:32am

re: #651 KGxvi

That the median farmer is almost a millionaire on paper isn’t very surprising. Farming requires land, often lots of land, and land is valuable.

and the necessary equipment and structures

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 4, 2020 • 12:06:13pm

re: #401 William Lewis

It’s a good reminder that being a gay man in the 80’s was almost as deadly as being an armed black man taunting a cop. If there is a hell, Ronald MFing Reagan is in it’s lowest circle.

Agreed 100%.
Long time ago, I was using “Piss on Reagan” as a passphrase.


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