Michael Brecker, Pat Metheny, Joey Calderazzo, Dave Holland and Jack DeJohnette: “Midnight Voyage” (1997)

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From a 1997 Japanese gig, Michael Brecker, Pat Metheny, Joey Calderazzo, Dave Holland and Jack DeJohnette play Joey’s composition, “Midnight Voyage. This is about as good as it gets, for me. This is the music that keeps me alive. This is the music that makes sense to me, as very little else does these days. This is the music that gives me hope. This is the music that inspires me.

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278 comments

1
austin_blue  Jun 23, 2020 • 10:21:41pm

PMURT KCUF

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Jebediah, RBG  Jun 23, 2020 • 10:51:24pm

Just a pretty L.A. sunset.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jun 23, 2020 • 10:52:36pm

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 23, 2020 • 10:56:53pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 23, 2020 • 11:03:10pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 23, 2020 • 11:06:01pm
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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jun 23, 2020 • 11:09:55pm

This here is my new favorite band in the world

Tikanga—Fulu Miziki Kinshasa Music Warriors

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2020 • 11:23:42pm

re: #7 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

This here is my new favorite band in the world

Waiting for Tucker Carlson to warn us that if we continue to defund the police, bands like this will be taking over Top 40 Radio…

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Dread Pirate  Jun 23, 2020 • 11:24:10pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 23, 2020 • 11:28:43pm

Well another exciting day in DTland, and I’m ready for some purple flowers.

Flowers on a stick.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 23, 2020 • 11:29:41pm

Jacaranda:

Not jacaranda:

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 23, 2020 • 11:31:40pm

A season’s effort produces one stem:

Floral insecurity — making quite sure they won’t be overlooked.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 23, 2020 • 11:37:36pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate

People with links to the Chinese state donated to Trump’s re-election committee and attended a fundraiser at which he was present. Some were guests at a Republican leadership meeting.

Kung Flu over the Cuckoo’s Nest…

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Dread Pirate  Jun 24, 2020 • 12:15:44am
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Dread Pirate  Jun 24, 2020 • 12:41:51am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2020 • 12:44:03am

re: #14 Dread Pirate

The Feds bailed on supporting the testing sites around Philadelphia back at the beginning of April. Trump administration being uncaring and essentially implementing a “less testing, fewer (known) cases” approach.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 24, 2020 • 12:50:00am
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Dread Pirate  Jun 24, 2020 • 1:15:08am

There seems to be a lot more military aircraft active today in Europe and the Mideast. These are the non-classified military aircraft.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2020 • 2:40:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 3:16:44am

re: #15 Dread Pirate

Kocherlakota on Fed race problems: “White people, by contrast, regularly rise to the position of Fed governor with much weaker qualifications. Only two of the current five, who are all white, have PhDs in economics. Two have no economics degrees.”

Affirmitive Caucasaction

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 3:17:57am

re: #16 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The Feds bailed on supporting the testing sites around Philadelphia back at the beginning of April. Trump administration being uncaring and essentially implementing a “less testing, fewer (known) cases” approach.

The President made clear that was what he wanted from the outset. “I like the figures the way they are!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 3:22:29am

The Middle East is such a clusterfuck and Americans are so clueless about it that the administration can maintain whatever narrative suits them to justify a highly distracting little conflict to rally support.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 3:53:35am

hi

Well, yesterday was another of the never-ending days of crap which is our political fate since 11/9

I won’t be here long, it’s already approaching sunrise here.

We’re still climbing in cases here in the Old West.

Panhandle Public Health District Covid-19 Dashboard

Total cases: 252 (+5, all in Cheyenne County, seat Cabela’s Sidney)
Most cases by county: Scott’s Bluff (seat Gering, 196), then Cheyenne (19)
Most by age: 10-19, then 20-29
(all restrictions on daycares and children gathering were removed by the state yesterday)
Women and girls are 2/3 of cases
Active: 94
Doubled since May 30
Cumulative positive tests: 5%
Currently hospitalised: 6, total 29
Beds available: 62%
Deaths: 3 (no change, all Scott’s Bluff County)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:10:53am

The Scott’s Bluff County fireworks show for Independence Day is back on, to be held at Five Rocks Amphitheater (part of Scott’s Bluff National Monument in Gering), on July 3.

I think we’ll avoid that this year.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:17:36am

Wingnut columnist Cal Thomas panned Donald Trump’s appearance in Tulsa. As long as Republican pundits want to keep trashing the President, I’ll happily get out of their way.

President Trump’s speech Saturday night in Tulsa, Oklahoma, was a toxic stream of consciousness that ignored a great opportunity to speak words of healing and unity to a divided nation.

His remarks, which lasted nearly two hours, were full of self-justifications and salted with crude language. He called one person “a son of a bitch.” Let’s hear his evangelical supporters defend that language, along with his frequent references to “Hell “and helluva.”

I have heard all the explanations. It’s who he is. His policies are more important. He’s God’s chosen instrument.

(more)

CAL THOMAS: Toxic in Tulsa (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:18:54am

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wingnut columnist Cal Thomas panned Donald Trump’s appearance in Tulsa. As long as Republican pundits want to keep trashing the President, I’ll happily get out of their way.

(more)

CAL THOMAS: Toxic in Tulsa (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

They are concerned that he is not racist enough.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:22:53am

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are concerned that he is not racist enough.

And other forms of bigotry. Trump tried to ban Muslim entry into the USA (which Thomas has called for over decades). Trump never tried to ban building mosques (which Thomas has also called for over decades).

Plus as a Christian wingnut, he hates all the same people Jesus does (Teh Geyhs), attacking both President Clinton and President Obama for viewing Teh Geyhs as people (well, a bit of an exaggeration but not much, since he sees them as performing an abomination in the sight of God).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:25:27am

Mr. Thomas is even making some of the arguments liberals made over the Coronapalooza in Tulsa.

Then he demonstrated how he slowly walked down a ramp after the address because he said the bottoms of his shoes were slippery, as was the ramp, and if he had fallen the media would have been all over him.

How does any of this matter? He made as many, or more, first-person references as President Obama often did for which Trump and others criticized him.

I was embarrassed for him and for his smaller-than-predicted audience, which worshipfully, but I sensed a little less enthusiastically, applauded.

Yes, many of those “one million” ticket requesters (according to the Trump campaign) were probably reluctant to show up because of what some consider nonstop media scare tactics about the coronavirus and the dire warnings from health officials about mass gatherings. Another factor may have been the president’s predictability. We’ve heard versions of this speech before.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:27:31am

Tik-Tokkers were openly posting about their “fake” reservations, but Trump continued to brag as if the numbers were all authentic.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:30:05am

Sen. Megan Hunt did a “Facebook Live” video (her first, 12:01)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:41:49am

Biden’s lead is now in the double digits. Hard to see how Trump recovers during a combined pandemic/depression he has no clue how to address. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:50:01am

An Omaha high school alumnus is seeking to get the name of her high school renamed. It is named after an arch-segregationist superintendent of schools in Omaha; the school district was only desegregated in 1975.

(Jim Crow wasn’t just a southern thing as people here know, and holy fuqueballs I was already in high school myself in Michigan when Omaha was still segregating schools.)

Burke High grad seeks to rename school because of namesake’s past (Goes to the Omaha World-Herald, more at the link):

[Harry A.] Burke led what’s now called the Omaha Public Schools from 1946 to 1962 — an era before the district was forced to integrate in the mid-1970s after seven black parents successfully sued for the right to send their children to integrated schools.

During Burke’s tenure, he and the district were criticized for discriminatory hiring practices related to black educators, including not assigning black teachers to high schools, placing black teachers only in majority-black schools and hiring white teachers over more qualified black candidates, a World-Herald review of newspaper stories from the time shows.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:52:47am

re: #31 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Biden’s lead is now in the double digits. Hard to see how Trump recovers during a combined pandemic/depression he has no clue how to address. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

The more desperate the situation, the more desperate the measures: if he has to kick over the table to keep from losing, he will not hesitate to resort to that.

We have to be prepared for anything and everything they can throw at us.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:53:44am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The more desperate the situation, the more desperate the measures: if he has to kick over the table to keep from losing, he will not hesitate to resort to that.

That would suck for him if the table was anchored to the floor and he broke his foot kicking it. /s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 4:57:23am

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That would suck for him if the table was anchored to the floor and he broke his foot kicking it. /s

Our saving grace could well turn out to be his own childish incompetence and vanity.

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steve_davis  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:04:02am

re: #17 Dread Pirate

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Jesus, you moron, it’s the year the variation was identified. And it’s SARS 2 because we already had a Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome variant that killed us back in I think 2005. One does not have to be an epidemiologist to grasp some of this stuff.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:04:26am

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Further down in the article giving the history of Dr. Burke’s tenure as superintendent, he was being called out as a white supremacist in Omaha’s newspapers all the way back in 1947.

Testimony about his segregation practices were the subject of hearings, wherein it was noted he hired white teachers with no degrees over black teachers with college degrees. School district policy at the time said the most qualified candidate had to be hired.

He died in office in 1962, and Burke High School was built and dedicated in 1967.

Federal oversight of Omaha’s integration programme including busing ended in 2002.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:06:30am

re: #36 steve_davis

Jesus, you moron, it’s the year the variation was identified. And it’s SARS 2 because we already had a Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome variant that killed us back in I think 2005. One does not have to be an epidemiologist to grasp some of this stuff.

again, his supporters love him because he makes them feel less stupid for being uninformed about the most basic matters…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:15:26am

The Douglas County Commission (Omaha and rural areas in the west of the county) set aside $6.2 million dollars to be used for a mass-vaccination programme when a Covid-19 vaccine becomes available. The money would first be used for critical workers such as physicians, nurses, and EMTS, then for the general public.

The commission noted the optimism that Dr. Anthony Fauci has for a vaccine being developed late this year or sometime next year, and pointed out having the money already set aside will help the county prepare when the vaccine becomes available.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:18:13am

For all you current/past shutterbugs, it’s not good news:
Engadget: Olympus is giving up on cameras

It’ll be acquired by the company that bought Sony’s VAIO division

Despite denying persistent rumors that it would exit the camera business, Olympus is doing exactly that. The company has announced that will sell its camera business to Japan Industrial Partners (JIP), the same company that purchased Sony’s VAIO PC division (via The Verge). Olympus will now focus on its much larger business supplying industrial and medical imaging equipment.

Olympus said it improved cost structure, focused on high-profit cameras and lenses and took other steps to “cope with the extremely severe digital camera market.” Despite those efforts, however, the company said it “recorded operating losses for three consecutive fiscal years up to the term ended in March 2020.” It likely didn’t help that the company was rocked by a $1.7 billion accounting scandal in 2013.

It’s unclear how this might affect owners of Olympus mirrorless cameras like the flagship O-MD E-M1 Mark III. JIP plans to streamline the business as it did with VAIO to make it “more compact, efficient and agile,” according to Olympus. It will also sell the existing camera models and develop new ones, so it would presumably support current Olympus owners. Beyond that, we don’t know what JIP plans to do with Olympus, and it didn’t exactly bring Sony’s former VAIO division to greatness.

Unless JIP makes new cameras and lenses, you can kiss Micro Four-Thirds goodbye.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:25:04am

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, his supporters love him because he makes them feel less stupid for being uninformed about the most basic matters…

To be a bit more precise, Trump is their leader against the rest of the world. It’s a 2% to 98% war, but god-dammit “we’re going to win because Jeebus is on our side.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:26:41am

Medicare recipients got pizza and ice cream; Omaha man got $800,000 — and a prison sentence (Omaha World-Herald)

This asshat will spend four years in the clink and three more on probation for insurance fraud against Medicare. He must pay back the $800,000+ and surrender his car and speedboat.

TL;DR, he would hold parties for residents of low-income housing and senior living centres in Lincoln, Omaha, and Des Moines, for people who would sign up (giving him their personal information), and give away pizza and ice cream coupons to the residents if they would refer other people to him (giving him other people’s information).

He then used that information to fraudulently bill Medicare and Nebraska and Iowa Medicaid for medical equipment they neither ordered nor needed.

He filed over 3,400 false insurance claims.

As he was a Medicare fraudster for medical equipment, when he is released from prison he is qualified to run as Florida governor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:28:44am

re: #40 Eric The Fruit Bat

For all you current/past shutterbugs, it’s not good news:
Engadget: Olympus is giving up on cameras

It’ll be acquired by the company that bought Sony’s VAIO division

Unless JIP makes new cameras and lenses, you can kiss Micro Four-Thirds goodbye.

We used to translate the annual report of Leica Cameras. They were a family-owned business who totally ignored the future of digital photography. They wound up closing up shop and selling off the only segments that still made money: optical measuring equipment, magnifying equipment and telescopes/binoculars.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:31:24am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The more desperate the situation, the more desperate the measures: if he has to kick over the table to keep from losing, he will not hesitate to resort to that.

We have to be prepared for anything and everything they can throw at us.

Exactly. And if Biden does win, we can breathe a sigh of relief but we need to stay focused because in the period between election day and Inauguration day, Trump can get up to all manner of fuckery, motivated by narcissistic rage against an America which has rejected him.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:36:18am

re: #40 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s a shame but not unexpected.

Back in the days of film, the Olympus 35mm OM series was quite the thing. It was a bit of a cult following - I had two OM-4ti. Olympus was always a leader in microscopes, so their camera systems had superior macro/micro-photography capability. And the OM system had a revolutionary metering capability.

But with the advent of autofocus cameras, Canon the megacorp really dominated, and the established Nikon users were always going to stay with their brand, and other companies fell behind. Minolta tried, but it went by the wayside before Olympus, as far as digital cameras. Yes, Sony rescued part of the Minolta line but it was never the same thing.

There was no white night for Olympus, though.

The camera-phone has brought ultimate “democratization” of photography - a phrase coined some time ago - and while such inventions have transformed society (see the recent documentation live of our social ills), photography as an art is not necessarily better for it.

But said camera-phones have replaced point-and-shoots and that was one of the last specialties of Olympus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:38:14am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. And if Biden does win, we can breathe a sigh of relief but we need to stay focused because in the period between election day and Inauguration day, Trump can get up to all manner of fuckery, motivated by narcissistic rage against an America which has rejected him.

Fortunately, the Constitution requires swearing in a new Senate and House on January 3. That does shorten the time, and much less fuquery can take place if either the House or Senate is in the Democratic Party’s hands in the interregnum.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:39:13am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The current owners of Leica still sell cameras. They are more jewelry than anything else, bought to impress.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:40:25am

I’m off to bed … I’ll catch y’all later.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:42:57am

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Fortunately, the Constitution requires swearing in a new Senate and House on January 3. That does shorten the time, and much less fuquery can take place if either the House or Senate is in the Democratic Party’s hands in the interregnum.

Good point. I still wouldn’t be surprised if Trump lashed out in some fashion if he takes a drubbing this November.

But then again, maybe - with any luck - he’ll just say “fuck it”, slink off to Mar-a-Lago and content himself with playing golf during his lame duck period while running down the clock. And Trump being Trump, maybe he’ll just stay there when/if Biden is sworn in (that wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, Trump being the spiteful and petty man that he is).

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steve_davis  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:44:15am

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wingnut columnist Cal Thomas panned Donald Trump’s appearance in Tulsa. As long as Republican pundits want to keep trashing the President, I’ll happily get out of their way.

(more)

CAL THOMAS: Toxic in Tulsa (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

I thought Cal Thomas had been dead for 20 years.

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steve_davis  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:50:10am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We used to translate the annual report of Leica Cameras. They were a family-owned business who totally ignored the future of digital photography. They wound up closing up shop and selling off the only segments that still made money: optical measuring equipment, magnifying equipment and telescopes/binoculars.

Okay. Glad I didn’t pull the trigger a month ago on an EM1.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:53:18am

Trump fucking with testing in Texas is kinda stunning to me.

He’s going to lose Texas. This cements it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:54:02am

re: #44 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. And if Biden does win, we can breathe a sigh of relief but we need to stay focused because in the period between election day and Inauguration day, Trump can get up to all manner of fuckery, motivated by narcissistic rage against an America which has rejected him.

He will want to assure that Biden inherits an enormous mess to clean up so they can then blame it all on him…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:54:40am

re: #52 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump fucking with testing in Texas is kinda stunning to me.

He’s going to lose Texas. This cements it.

If he does. Oh man.

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jeffreyw  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:54:56am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:55:34am

re: #52 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump fucking with testing in Texas is kinda stunning to me.

He’s going to lose Texas. This cements it.

He made it clear from the outset that he wants to see numbers kept as low as possible, so obviously this is what his people are doing for him.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:55:51am

Meanwhile, why hasn’t this fascist moron been deported back to Hungary?

Right-wing radio host Sebastian Gorka, a former aide to President Donald Trump, described face masks aimed at slowing the spread of the coronavirus as “COVID burqas” on his show Tuesday.

Gorka, who is tipped for a top role at the U.S. Agency for Global Media, agreed with a caller in California who’d labelled the face coverings that are now mandatory in public in his state as “Democrat Islamo-Maoist masks.

There was “something inhuman” about the idea of covering the face, said Gorka, who has a history of making offensive, anti-Islamic remarks.

“Not only does it dehumanize the individual in that interaction with another human being,” Gorka continued. “But also, it is, you’re right, an act of submission and as I said to that lady, clearly a Democrat voter in the post office who said ‘where’s your mask?’ I said, ‘my body my choice.’”

huffpost.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:56:50am

The now-famous photo of a lone man sitting in the upper deck of the BOK Center in Tulsa is a photo of a freelance photographer who went to cover Mr. Trump’s rally from Texas.

He describes his time there and how that shot came to be. He also describes what it is event photographers look for when taking pictures, and what event coordinators look for when trying to get photographers to take pictures (or not) of the event the way the coordinator wants. Those goals are rarely the same.

How the National Media Turned Me Into a Trump Supporter (goes to PetaPixel, and yes he even says in the article that the headline is meant to be clickbait)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:57:45am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, why hasn’t this fascist moron been deported back to Hungary?

huffpost.com

Seriously he claims to be a nationalist. So why the fuck is he in our country? Also Islamo-Maoist Democrat lol.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:58:11am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will want to assure that Biden inherits an enormous mess to clean up so they can then blame it all on him…

SOP for the Republican Party all my life.

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stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:58:38am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will want to assure that Biden inherits an enormous mess to clean up so they can then blame it all on him…

Biden already has experience being stuck in that situation. He came in with Obama just as the great recession was tanking everything.

I’m hoping that the first thing he does before he does anything else is take babies out of cages.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:58:56am

Voice of America to be influenced by a Hungarian fascist with a British accent.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:59:14am

re: #54 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If he does. Oh man.

If Trump ends up losing Texas, the GOP is gonna be in deep, deep shit. And the GOP will end up denying Trump was ever one of their own - they’ll disown him in manner not seen since ancient Egypt or the Roman Empire.

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A Cranky One  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:59:26am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 5:59:26am

re: #59 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Seriously he claims to be a nationalist. So why the fuck is he in our country? Also Islamo-Maoist Democrat lol.

Islamo? As in Islam? I thought we were all baby-eating atheists? Did someone change the playbook and I didn’t get my copy? I don’t really want to become a Muslim; if that’s the standard for the Democratic Party now I might have to find another. /s

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:01:59am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Islamo? As in Islam? I thought we were all baby-eating atheists? Did someone change the playbook and I didn’t get my copy? I don’t really want to become a Muslim; if that’s the standard for the Democratic Party now I might have to find another. /s

There’s RWNJ memes out there saying a face mask is but the first step to imposing the niquab (or burka or whatever).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:02:19am

re: #50 steve_davis

I thought Cal Thomas had been dead for 20 years.

Nope. He’s about the same age as my mother.

Cal Thomas recently remarried (his first wife died some time ago).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:03:47am

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

There’s RWNJ memes out there saying a face mask is but the first step to imposing the niquab (or burka or whatever).

I’ve seen some of them. Never mind no one can impose any religion or its sectarian clothing on another due to the First Amendment that conservatives neither understand nor care about.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:05:54am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Islamo? As in Islam? I thought we were all baby-eating atheists? Did someone change the playbook and I didn’t get my copy? I don’t really want to become a Muslim; if that’s the standard for the Democratic Party now I might have to find another. /s

That’s why I’m laughing. The three terms are all contradictory. Gorka is just shitting out terms.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:06:49am
A new poll is giving Donald Trump more material for a Twitter tantrum (watch for it!), showing former Vice President Joe Biden with a huge national lead. Biden takes 50% to Trump’s 36% in the new New York Times/Siena College poll. White voters gave Trump the presidency: In 2016, exit polls showed white voters going for Trump by a 21-point margin. Now, even among white voters, Trump leads by just one point, 44% to 43%. Despite Biden’s well-publicized struggle for enthusiasm among young voters, he leads among white voters under 45. Black and Hispanic voters give Biden leads of 74 points and 39 points, respectively .
The bad news for Trump, which is to say the good news, doesn’t stop there. The only age group giving Trump a lead in the new poll is people 50 to 64 years old—which means even people 65 and older are going for Biden, albeit narrowly. It’s not even July and there’s a long time to keep pushing and fighting and organizing until November, but it sure is better to be Team Biden right now

I hate my generation (I’m at the bottom of that group).

dailykos.com

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:06:51am

Hunker down, BeachDem! At least 17 high school students catch covid at Myrtle Beach.

cnn.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:07:05am

re: #63 Dr Lizardo

If Trump ends up losing Texas, the GOP is gonna be in deep, deep shit. And the GOP will end up denying Trump was ever one of their own - they’ll disown him in manner not seen since ancient Egypt or the Roman Empire.

The man who lost Texas. Haha. We can’t let them erase him though. They need to be defined by him.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:10:11am

It’s gonna be one of those days (sadly passed away this year).

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:12:10am

re: #70 Belafon

I hate my generation (I’m at the bottom of that group).

dailykos.com

OK, Boomer. ///

Yes, I know we are the worst.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:12:18am

re: #69 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

That’s why I’m laughing. The three terms are all contradictory. Gorka is just shitting out terms.

Well, one part of it’s true.

In accusing Democrats of being “Islamo-Maoist-Democrats,” he is correct in saying we’re Democrats.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:12:25am

re: #50 steve_davis

I thought Cal Thomas had been dead for 20 years.

He’s been living with Snake Plissken.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:17:43am

re: #74 BlueSpotinAL

OK, Boomer. ///

Yes, I know we are the worst.

Can I leave the “white male 50-64 no college” demographic? Maybe become “white female 30 PhD?” /s

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:18:18am

re: #74 BlueSpotinAL

OK, Boomer. ///

Yes, I know we are the worst.

Sadly, that would be mainly Gen Xers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:24:36am

re: #59 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Seriously he claims to be a nationalist. So why the fuck is he in our country? Also Islamo-Maoist Democrat lol.

Hungary dropped the open gun charge against him a couple years ago. He could have been deported on that, but for some reason cough the American Fascist Party didn’t seem to think deporting a person charged with a crime was a priority. There was a wall to build. Muslims to ban. Trade partners to piss off. Military partners to extort.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:25:58am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hungary dropped the open gun charge against him a couple years ago. He could have been deported on that, but for some reason (cough the American Fascist Party) didn’t seem to think deporting a person charged with a crime was a priority. There was a wall to build. Muslims to ban. Trade partners to piss off. Military partners to extort.

I know. I’m pointing out the absurdity of nationalism. Don’t forget that Farange, a Brit was present for Trump’s Tulsa tantrum.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:27:24am

re: #78 Belafon

Sadly, that would be mainly Gen Xers.

Ah, true. I am the tail end of boomers like many here. I still maintain that we are worse. :)

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:28:05am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Can I leave the “white male 50-64 no college” demographic? Maybe become “white female 30 PhD?” /s

Do you want to be called Loretta, and have a baby?

83
retired cynic  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:31:16am
84
A Mom Anon  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:32:06am

re: #70 Belafon
I’m 60 and have never voted conservative/republican or anything close. But I know plenty of people my age, wealthier than I can ever be, who loathe democrats and liberals for no truly coherent reason. Maybe money causes brain malfunctioning in some people, I don’t know.

Conservatives have this knack for creating scary stereotypes that they had to make up to justify hatred. In the real world, it would be laughable if it didn’t do so much damage.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:32:33am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:34:09am

Nebraska statewide:
Deaths: 256 (+7)
Total cases: 18,092 (+135)
Largest age group: 20-34
nebraska.maps.arcgis.com

Wyoming:
Deaths: 20 (no change since June 19)
Cases: 1,254 (+22)
Largest age group: 19-29
health.wyo.gov

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:35:14am
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Jay C  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:36:47am

re: #85 Belafon

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Heh. There’s that number again, or close to it: $7.6M divided by 175,000 (“grass-roots donors”) averages out to $43.42

Maybe “42” IS the answer to everything…..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:37:44am

re: #87 Belafon

You can also switch up your data metrics like Florida is doing.

If I switch my bathroom scale from pounds to kilogrammes, I get a significantly smaller number.

If I switch it to Imperial, I get unintelligible numbers which are even smaller (stone and pounds).

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:38:22am
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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:39:27am
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retired cynic  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:49:08am

An Aerial Timelapse Captures One Million Begonias as They’re Woven Into an Ephemeral Tapestry, This is Colossal.

Gorgeous!

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:50:45am

If Biden wins Texas, it’s an extinction-level event for the GOP at the national level. Being a Texan, I will risk my life for that to happen.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:50:52am

re: #84 A Mom Anon

I’m 60 and have never voted conservative/republican or anything close. But I know plenty of people my age, wealthier than I can ever be, who loathe democrats and liberals for no truly coherent reason. Maybe money causes brain malfunctioning in some people, I don’t know.

Having lived among conservatives in Texas my whole life I can tell you it’s greed. They feel as if they’ve succeeded alone without any support from the society that holds them up, and don’t want to give anything back. Democrats and liberals might raise their taxes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:54:36am

re: #90 Belafon

New research suggests one in three patients who recover from coronavirus could be harmed for life

“just a flu”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:55:55am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:56:01am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“just a flu”

And about 1 in 50 are not recovering at all.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:56:23am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“just a flu”

It does make me wonder if people who caught the flu back in 1918-1920 suffered any kind of physical damage from it.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 6:59:36am

re: #50 steve_davis

I thought Cal Thomas had been dead for 20 years.

That’s abe vigoda //

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:00:01am

Looks like Trump’s pick Lynda Bennett lost in NC. But the guy that beat her, Cawthorn… is just as crazy. Good times.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:00:41am

I have no desire to see what trump would do to shake things up. The thought is terrifying.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:02:04am

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

I am proud to be blocked by Sean Davis.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:02:35am

re: #56 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He made it clear from the outset that he wants to see numbers kept as low as possible, so obviously this is what his people are doing for him.

Imagine this

Biden wins
Increases support for testing everywhere
Of course numbers go up

Trump then tweets… I had it under control. See, virus escalates with Dems in charge

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:03:12am

re: #52 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump fucking with testing in Texas is kinda stunning to me.

He’s going to lose Texas. This cements it.

Make it so number 1. /Picard.

Trump might not lose Texas, but if he’s got to spend money there to keep the state, it’s money he can’t spend elsewhere. That props up what had been a deep red state. That means Democrats can potentially pick off other Senate races and win states for Biden.

Dems need to get their 50 state campaign going in overdrive. All the seats and their races matter. Don’t take any of it for granted.

Meanwhile, we see some of the primary results coming in from NY and they’re mostly predictable.

AOC handily won - it wasn’t even close.
Elliot Engel got crushed by his opponent, newcomer Jamaal Bowman. Engel was undone in part by his claim that if he didn’t have a primary this year, he wouldn’t care.

Carolyn Maloney seems to be slightly ahead of her challenger Suraj Patel but that’s too close to call.

Nadler is leading handily in his race.

Retiring Dems Serrano and Lowey have a bunch of newcomers vying for their seats - Mondaire Jones is leading for Lowey’s seat. Both of those seats are reliably Democratic, so it’s unlikely a GOPer could pick those seats up in November.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:04:35am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, why hasn’t this fascist moron been deported back to Hungary?

huffpost.com

Islam and mao?
That’s some pretzeling

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:04:49am

re: #103 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Imagine this

Biden wins
Increases support for testing everywhere
Of course numbers go up

Trump then tweets… I had it under control. See, virus escalates with Dems in charge

The people who will buy that are the same people who think the virus is a hoax.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:05:48am

re: #84 A Mom Anon

I’m 60 and have never voted conservative/republican or anything close. But I know plenty of people my age, wealthier than I can ever be, who loathe democrats and liberals for no truly coherent reason. Maybe money causes brain malfunctioning in some people, I don’t know.

Conservatives have this knack for creating scary stereotypes that they had to make up to justify hatred. In the real world, it would be laughable if it didn’t do so much damage.

There is a whole sub-genre of urban legends that buttress the middle-class conservative worldview. My “favorite,” for both prevalence and corrosive effect, is the two obese minority women (always two and always obese) buying lobster and prime rib (always those specific items) with EBT cards. The teller usually adds that they see this while waiting to pay for their own humble ground chuck. Now, I don’t doubt that this has actually happened among the billions of grocery purchases over the several decades the story has circulated, but I have never seen it and it certainly isn’t commom enough to account for the tiresome frequency with which the story is told. The story, though, is so common, iirc, that the State of Wisconsin specifically removed shellfish and expensive cuts of beef from the list of approved food stamp items. Soda and snack chips (incomparably more frequent purchases) remained though. This may only prove that Coca-Cola and Frito-Lay have more clout than the lobster lobby, at least in Wisconsin.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:05:57am

re: #104 lawhawk

Dems need to get their 50 state campaign going in overdrive. All the seats and their races matter. Don’t take any of it for granted.

Texas Democrats: Done.

For the first time since they were they conservative party here in Texas, they are running someone in every position.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:06:42am

re: #103 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

As long as President Biden increases funding for treatment, vaccination development and medical workers, I wouldn’t give a dang about Trump’s nonsense. Hopefully Trump will be tweeting from prison.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:08:32am

re: #83 retired cynic

Facebook creates fact-checking exemption for climate deniers, Judd Legum, popular.info.

Some facts are more equal than others

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:10:11am

re: #93 Ace Rothstein

If Biden wins Texas, it’s an extinction-level event for the GOP at the national level. Being a Texan, I will risk my life for that to happen.

Don’t risk your life, Ace: we need you here and posting…
All Lizards Matter!

But if Biden takes Texas this time round, I’m thinking it will be more due to the Trump regime’s immediate failures (I.e. COVID-19 related, say), than a seismic shift in political orientation. Which, IMO, is unfortunate, but I think that turning the Lone Star State at least some shade of purple is the best we can hope (and work) for.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:12:55am

Despite the rosy prediction of starting things up in July and the season starting at the end of July, reality is going to be a harsh mistress - covid19 cases are soaring in CA, AZ, TX, and FL. That’s bad enough, but we’re seeing cases among NCAA players where teams are practicing together, other sports are seeing similar outbreaks among their players, and it’s a matter of time before MLB players see it race around their locker rooms too.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:14:06am

re: #103 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Imagine this

Biden wins
Increases support for testing everywhere
Of course numbers go up

Trump then tweets… I had it under control. See, virus escalates with Dems in charge

Which means nothing. If Trump loses his political influence drops to near nil. Media might still give him attention for ratings, but they also might decide that ripping him up in a feeding frenzy as the massive evidence for the scandals sees the light of day is worth more ratings. (Plus hopefully they decide to chew on a bunch of other Republicans.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:15:58am

re: #104 lawhawk

Make it so number 1. /Picard.

Trump might not lose Texas, but if he’s got to spend money there to keep the state, it’s money he can’t spend elsewhere. That props up what had been a deep red state. That means Democrats can potentially pick off other Senate races and win states for Biden.

Dems need to get their 50 state campaign going in overdrive. All the seats and their races matter. Don’t take any of it for granted.

Meanwhile, we see some of the primary results coming in from NY and they’re mostly predictable.

AOC handily won - it wasn’t even close.
Elliot Engel got crushed by his opponent, newcomer Jamaal Bowman. Engel was undone in part by his claim that if he didn’t have a primary this year, he wouldn’t care.

Carolyn Maloney seems to be slightly ahead of her challenger Suraj Patel but that’s too close to call.

Nadler is leading handily in his race.

Retiring Dems Serrano and Lowey have a bunch of newcomers vying for their seats - Mondaire Jones is leading for Lowey’s seat. Both of those seats are reliably Democratic, so it’s unlikely a GOPer could pick those seats up in November.

How are the rural districts looking in NY state? GOP essentially holding there, or is there risk they start losing ground and then lose more so if the districts get de-gerrymandered in the next rearrangement?

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Mike Lamb  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:16:00am

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

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It was a fucking noose, which would have obvious connotations to a black man. He hadn’t been in that garage before, so how could he fucking know that it was there already. Nobody else seemed to know. Fucking imbecile.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:16:02am

re: #111 Jay C

Don’t risk your life, Ace: we need you here and posting…
All Lizards Matter!

But if Biden takes Texas this time round, I’m thinking it will be more due to the Trump regime’s immediate failures (I.e. COVID-19 related, say), than a seismic shift in political orientation. Which, IMO, is unfortunate, but I think that turning the Lone Star State at least some shade of purple is the best we can hope (and work) for.

Purple means the GOP spends money. But, if enough people switch because of this, a number of them will start looking at switching for other reasons. It’s kind of like how Republicans took the state back in the 80’s and 90’s.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:16:51am

re: #100 GlutenFreeJesus

Looks like Trump’s pick Lynda Bennett lost in NC. But the guy that beat her, Cawthorn… is just as crazy. Good times.

Trump has not been able to affect any race but his own
I wonder if anyone has him in an ad

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nines09  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:18:09am

re: #112 lawhawk

“I’ll take “How Many Died For Money” for a thousand, Alex.”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:18:31am

re: #112 lawhawk

Already happening.

cbssports.com

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:18:43am

re: #103 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Imagine this

Biden wins
Increases support for testing everywhere
Of course numbers go up

Trump then tweets… I had it under control. See, virus escalates with Dems in charge

Biden needs a dark inaugural address—one that nails down forever that he and the American people have been served shit-on-rye. Then he can promise the hope of a new day at the end of a ten-year grind.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:19:23am

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

SEAN WANTS PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR TALKING ABOUT RACISM!!

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:19:27am

re: #115 Mike Lamb

It was a fucking noose, which would have obvious connotations to a black man. He hadn’t been in that garage before, so how could he fucking know that it was there already. Nobody else seemed to know. Fucking imbecile.

I don’t know how to tie a noose. While it is a type of slip knot, there are others that are more common.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:23:11am

re: #122 Belafon

I don’t know how to tie a noose. While it is a type of slip knot, there are others that are more common.

A classical noose, like those we tied as boys, would make a very poor door-pull. It would change size and shape when you tug on it.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:23:43am

re: #115 Mike Lamb

Why had it “been there since 2019”?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:24:01am

re: #55 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:25:59am

re: #123 Decatur Deb

A classical noose, like those we tied as boys, would make a very poor door-pull. It would change size and shape when you tug on it.

Did anyone publish a picture of said noose?

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:26:13am

re: #114 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Mixed bag. GOP retained seat left by Chris Collins after he resigned for corruption conviction.

There’s a Syracuse area seat that may be a tight one in November, but the GOP may hold that seat as well.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:27:18am

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:27:30am

re: #112 lawhawk

If you look at the California curves, it is clear we’re still on our first phase. With all the closures and measures (e.g. face mask orders) we’ve slowed the exponential growth considerably but it still looks like an exponential curve.

Our per capita case and death counts have been lower than some other states, because we have successfully slowed the spread.

But we were not able to suppress the virus.

Hence now with people traveling more and going to the beaches, etc., the growth in cases continue.

This is what a communicable disease does. We can’t pretend that it doesn’t exist. This pandemic is really a pandemic, not a “hoax” etc.

We can only hope that a vaccine comes soon.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:28:34am

re: #126 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Did anyone publish a picture of said noose?

Haven’t seen one. A Freeper claimed that all the garages had pulls that could be described as “nooses”. A tight loop isn’t a noose, but could be called one.

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retired cynic  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:30:09am

re: #52 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump fucking with testing in Texas is kinda stunning to me.

He’s going to lose Texas. This cements it.

To do it at the same time Dr. Fauci is testifying to Congress, and saying he, and the C. Task Force, had never been asked to suppress testing. Wow. Way to undermine Dr. F!

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:31:04am
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:34:34am
134
Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:35:56am
135
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:38:30am
136
Acemarilllion  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:38:38am

re: #7 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

I am going to tell my grandchildren this was Slipknot.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:40:09am

re: #135 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Trump’s “silent majority” rantings are, to me at least, confirmation of his peculiar obsession with the Nixon Administration.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:40:36am
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retired cynic  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:41:20am

re: #103 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Imagine this

Biden wins
Increases support for testing everywhere
Of course numbers go up

Trump then tweets… I had it under control. See, virus escalates with Dems in charge

Pre-empt him. Announce in the Inaugural address that testing is going to go up “bigly” and therefore that cases are going to go up in proportion.

140
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:41:25am

Covid19 is out of control in Lubbock, with 140 new cases yesterday. That is nearly 10% of all the cases reported there from the beginning in March.
kcbd.com
(KCBD homepage, dumb-phone won’t copy full link)

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:42:04am
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retired cynic  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:45:13am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Biden needs a dark inaugural address—one that nails down forever that he and the American people have been served shit-on-rye. Then he can promise the hope of a new day at the end of a ten-year grind.

You beat me! Respect.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:46:33am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Biden needs a dark inaugural address—one that nails down forever that he and the American people have been served shit-on-rye. Then he can promise the hope of a new day at the end of a ten-year grind.

just dont use the word ‘malaise’ // (1/2)

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Jay C  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:50:24am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Biden needs a dark inaugural address—one that nails down forever that he and the American people have been served shit-on-rye. Then he can promise the hope of a new day at the end of a tenfour-year grind.

Worked for Nixon…..

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:51:30am

re: #135 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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It is especially significant that he is losing in the 65+ age group, a demographic that has heretofore been in the bag for the GOP. Those seniors who can tell what is going on realize that they are literally expendable in the GOP scheme of things, and they don’t like it a damn bit.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:53:22am

re: #145 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It is especially signifant that he is losing in the 65+ age group, a demographic that has heretofore been in the bag for the GOP. Those seniors who can tell what is going on realize that they are literally expendable in the GOP scheme of things, and they don’t like it a damn bit.

For all the crapping on Boomers, they’re a different breed than Silents.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:56:00am

re: #144 Jay C

Four years to stop the bleeding, perhaps. Ten years to a generation to get back on the path to a humane future.

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Citizen K  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:57:39am

re: #138 jaunte

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And even when Trump and Barr are both gone, we have to deal with the judges they installed precisely to enable their total subversion of the law for at least a generation. And they’ve gotten through so many because McConnell is a shameless evil shit at the top of the pile of evil shits.

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🌹UOJB!  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:58:00am

The Supreme Court has to be expanded to 9 to 15 and the number of Federal judges has to be doubled. Joe needs to pack the courts the same way MoscowMitch has.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2020 • 7:59:41am
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sagehen  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:04:26am

re: #149 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Supreme Court has to be expanded to 9 to 15 and the number of Federal judges has to be doubled. Joe needs to pack the courts the same way MoscowMitch has.

Even FDR couldn’t get away with expanding the Supremes; and he had overwhelming majorities in both houses of Congress.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:04:59am
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stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:07:39am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:09:09am

re: #153 stpaulbear

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fwiw trump may very will try to still pardon away everything federal now
just as ford did nixon

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:09:15am

re: #153 stpaulbear

If Biden wins, ten to one Flynn will flee the country.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:11:13am

re: #155 Dr Lizardo

If Biden wins, ten to one Flynn will flee the country.

Exile in Turkey?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:11:46am

Shopping mall staple GNC is filing for bankruptcy, planning to close up to 20% of its retail outlets.

GNC has filed for bankruptcy, warning it will close up to a quarter of its stores and search for a buyer.

The 85-year-old vitamin and dietary supplement company has been saddled with nearly $1 billion of debt and has faced declining sales at its brick-and-mortar locations since before the pandemic. However, GNC said that stay-at-home orders during the Covid-19 pandemic prevented the company from accomplishing its refinancing plans because of the abrupt “dramatic negative impact” on its business.

GNC will continue operating, but it will become a smaller company. It plans to close up to 20% of its 5,800 retail stores, which amounts to as many as 1,200 locations across the United States. GNC also sells its products in an additional 1,200 Rite Aid (RAD) stores.

It obtained $130 million in fresh financing from its largest vendor, vitamin supplier IVC, to help it restructure. GNC aims to emerge from bankruptcy in the fall.

edition.cnn.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:11:57am

re: #147 Decatur Deb

Four years to stop the bleeding, perhaps. Ten years to a generation to get back on the path to a humane future.

Basically one decade per year of Trump administration to fully recover…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:12:38am

re: #156 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Exile in Turkey?

Izmir is a nice place, actually. If I had to go into exile, I’d go there. Personally though, I’d prefer Istanbul….lots of history and culture.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:13:13am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

Seems like vitamins and supplements would be a good mail order/online business.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:13:47am

re: #156 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Exile in Turkey?

US has extradition treaty with Turkey.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:15:04am

re: #161 lawhawk

US has extradition treaty with Turkey.

according to wsfa.com:

Countries with no extradition treaty with US
African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial.
Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal,
Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia,

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stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:15:28am

Breaking news at WaPo:

BRUSSELS — Kosovo President Hashim Thaci was indicted for a range of war crimes, including nearly 100 murders, a special prosecutor in The Hague announced Wednesday, just three days before the leader was due at the White House for a special summit with Serbia.

The announcement of the 10-count indictment threw the summit into disarray, saying that Thaci and others had perpetrated “murder, enforced disappearance of persons, persecution, and torture.” It added that “the crimes alleged in the indictment involve hundreds of known victims of Kosovo Albanian, Serb, Roma, and other ethnicities and include political opponents.”

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:15:40am

re: #155 Dr Lizardo

If Biden wins, ten to one Flynn will flee the country.

re: #156 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Exile in Turkey?

My €.02 is on Moscow (Russia).

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:16:05am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

according to wsfa.com:

Countries with no extradition treaty with US
African Republic, Chad, Mainland China, Comoros, Congo (Kinshasa), Congo (Brazzaville), Djibouti, Equatorial.
Mauritania, Micronesia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Mozambique, Namibia, Nepal,
Niger, Oman, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Samoa, São Tomé & Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia,

So to Russia with love.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:16:23am

Moldova, so Putin can deny he’s in Russia.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:18:19am

re: #166 jaunte

Moldova, so Putin can deny he’s in Russia.

Serbia too. They’ve always been a Russia proxy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:20:54am

Definitely expecting you know who to tweet stupid shit about how Flynn is a victim and patriot done wrong.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:21:57am

re: #168 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Definitely expecting you know who to tweet stupid shit about how Flynn is a victim and patriot done wrong.

“Lying to the Deep State isn’t a crime, OK?”

/

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:22:10am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:22:28am

re: #169 Sir John Barron

“Lying to the Deep State isn’t a crime, OK?”

/

Then law and order in caps.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:23:03am

re: #171 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Then law and order in caps.

JAIL FOR PROTESTING STATUES!!!!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:23:05am

I mean, what can anyone say?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:24:22am

re: #173 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I mean, what can anyone say?

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Our President is so fucking stupid. To the point of absurdity.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:25:16am

re: #173 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I mean, what can anyone say?

“Nobody knows what the 19 in Covid-19 is. Not many people know that. Maybe the 19 is something about China.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:25:19am

And no it’s not a fucking distraction. He is this stupid. Because he’s never been interested in anything or anyone that isn’t directly about him.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:25:38am

re: #114 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

How are the rural districts looking in NY state? GOP essentially holding there, or is there risk they start losing ground and then lose more so if the districts get de-gerrymandered in the next rearrangement?

Excellent questions, and we don’t have a lot of answers yet.

What I think I know so far from up here near Rottenchester:

The 27th district, late of Chris Collins (R-Federal Pokey), had a special election yesterday to fill the last few months of Convict Chris’ term. The in-person voting in this heavily R district was heavily R, for scumbucket Chris Jacobs, whose entire campaign has been “Trump endorses me!”

But: Collins barely eked out a win in 2018’s blue wave against Dem Nate McMurray, who was the D candidate in the special and will be the D candidate against Jacobs in November for a full term. Will heavy presidential turnout help McMurray? Here’s hoping.

Also but: The in-person voting was only a tiny fraction of the total vote in NY. My best guess is that 90% or more of the voting was absentee. Did the in-person turnout track the absentee balloting? We have no way of knowing and no exit polling to tell us anything. And the absentee count won’t even start for another week.

(Note that this could just as easily affect races like Engel’s downstate, too.)

I want to believe that districts like the 27th in western NY, Elise Stefanik up in the North Country and even Tom Reed in the Southern Tier could be vulnerable in a blue wave this November. I’m hopeful that for Stefanik and Jacobs, tying themselves to a sinking Trump will turn out to be a bad strategy.

As for gerrymandering and the post-2020 redistricting, while NY will lose at least one and maybe two House seats, we’re in good hands for the process. Democrats have regained full control of the State Senate to go with their long control of the Assembly, and a ton of veteran Senate Rs have walked away in the face of long-term minority status. The rural R areas of upstate keep shrinking in population faster than the Democratic cities.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:26:14am

re: #175 Sir John Barron

“Nobody knows what the 19 in Covid-19 is. Not many people know that. Maybe the 19 is something about China.”

“Maybe I have nineteen naked photos of Ivanka. Not many people know about that.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:27:44am

The clip in the tweet is 59 seconds
The youtube link is just over an hour, and doesn’t progress at the same image rate as the tweet
Maybe save for use instead of the yule log this X-Mas

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:28:36am

re: #173 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I mean, what can anyone say?

“They just make these names up. Many people upset. We’ve saved many hundreds thousands of lives millions maybe much better than sleepy Joe with Swine flu. Testing is good but we don’t need so much testing because tests.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:29:34am

“ Maybe I’m a bigger moron than my marks. I love my marks. They’re why I’m not in jail.”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:29:58am

re: #176 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

And no it’s not a fucking distraction. He is this stupid. Because he’s never been interested in anything or anyone that isn’t directly about him.

“He was just kidding”

“He knows what the 19 is.”

“It means there were 18 other covids.”

/

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:31:10am

I’m sure he was just kidding….

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:32:59am

re: #183 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure he was just kidding….

Totally democracy, very Freedom.
/

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:33:26am

re: #182 Sir John Barron

“He was just kidding”

“He knows what the 19 is.”

“It means there were 18 other covids.”

/

Yeah can’t wait for the same lame excuses. The man is a fucking dolt.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:34:31am

re: #183 Barefoot Grin

I’m sure he was just kidding….

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“he was just being sarcastic.” Serious as a heart attack, I want him on trial facing LWOP.

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nines09  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:34:42am

Cooper had his fill.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:35:13am
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Teukka  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:35:14am

So how are you Lizardim feeling about July?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:35:50am

So, watching the local evening news here, and the Prague city council is debating what to do with the upper part of Wenceslas Square, which apparently is starting to look more and more like The Deuce, at least once the sun goes down.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:36:29am

re: #189 Teukka

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My birthday but I just feel so exhausted by this year. I just want Trump gone and to start breathing easily a bit.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:36:49am

re: #186 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

“he was just being sarcastic.” Serious as a heart attack, I want him on trial facing LWOP.

1. He didn’t say it
2. OK, he said it, but he was just kidding
3. OK, he said it, and he wasn’t kidding, but media is making too big a deal of it
4. OK, he said it, and it’s totally true so shutup.
5. Whatabout whatabout whatabout

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:38:21am

re: #192 Sir John Barron

1. He didn’t say it
2. OK, he said it, but he was just kidding
3. OK, he said it, and he wasn’t kidding, but media is making too big a deal of it
4. OK, he said it, and it’s totally true so shutup.
5. Whatabout whatabout whatabout

The five steps of a Trump quip.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:38:27am

re: #164 Teukka

My €.02 is on Moscow (Russia).

The weather and the food are both much better in Morocco.

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KGxvi  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:38:59am

re: #177 i(m)p(each)sos

I’m sure Nate McMurray is a good guy and all, but having binged Letterkenny on Hulu, I can’t help but chuckle at the name…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:49:06am

The money mavens are reporting the Florida coronavirus record has finally grabbed the attention of the stock market. Dow down 823 with little other explanation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:50:23am

re: #196 Decatur Deb

The money mavens are reporting the Florida coronavirus record has finally grabbed the attention of the stock market. Dow down 823 with little other explanation.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:50:59am

re: #196 Decatur Deb

The money mavens are reporting the Florida coronavirus record has finally grabbed the attention of the stock market. Dow down 823 with little other explanation.

Probably not just Florida, but rising cases in California and Texas too. It’s probably getting them thinking that some parts of the US are headed for further prolonged shutdown situations and those parts happen to be major contributors to the overall US economy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:53:00am
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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:53:28am

re: #198 Dr Lizardo

Probably not just Florida, but rising cases in California and Texas too. It’s probably getting them thinking that some parts of the US are headed for further prolonged shutdown situations and those parts happen to be major contributors to the overall US economy.

CA might shut back down, but TX, AZ, and FL aren’t given that their governors are Trumpists who’d ignore the health experts yet again. They have consistently moved in lockstep with Trump and ignored the rising cases. Now we’ll watch cases double within days. Deaths will follow closely behind.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:55:20am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh? Due process like how your boss wanted to execute journalists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:56:19am

re: #201 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Oh? Due process like how your boss wanted to execute journalists.

He of course meant that they should be given a fair trial before being sent to the chair or chamber…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 8:56:35am

re: #200 lawhawk

CA might shut back down, but TX, AZ, and FL aren’t given that their governors are Trumpists who’d ignore the health experts yet again. They have consistently moved in lockstep with Trump and ignored the rising cases. Now we’ll watch cases double within days. Deaths will follow closely behind.

The governors of those states may not want to shut down, but a catastrophic outbreak is likely going to override their wishes.

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KGxvi  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:00:03am

re: #200 lawhawk

CA might shut back down, but TX, AZ, and FL aren’t given that their governors are Trumpists who’d ignore the health experts yet again. They have consistently moved in lockstep with Trump and ignored the rising cases. Now we’ll watch cases double within days. Deaths will follow closely behind.

My sense is that a lot of people here in California are getting restless with the quarantine. I’m not sure a second one is going to go over well. On the bright side, it seems like most people are at least wearing masks in public at least in the LA/LB/OC area that I live in.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:02:18am

re: #173 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I mean, what can anyone say?

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that’s true
some people can’t explain it

you’re the president
do you really want to tell people yourself that you’re one of the idiots?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:03:36am

re: #205 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

that’s true
some people can’t explain it

you’re the president
do you really want to tell people yourself that you’re one of the idiots?

yes, he really wants to make these people feel that he is at their level.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:03:37am

re: #204 KGxvi

My sense is that a lot of people here in California are getting restless with the quarantine. I’m not sure a second one is going to go over well. On the bright side, it seems like most people are at least wearing masks in public at least in the LA/LB/OC area that I live in.

A lethal pandemic is pretty much the default definition of things not going over well.

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KGxvi  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:05:15am

So, a bit off topic, but I was listening to Pod Save America yesterday and they were talking to Jon Stewart and the conversation shifted to money in politics and it’s corroding effects, and whenever that talking point comes up, I’m always reminded of the late great Jesse Unruh (former Speaker of the California Assembly) and his famous line:

If you can’t eat their food, drink their booze, screw their women, take their money and then vote against them, you have no business being up here

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:06:53am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

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1. explain ‘due process’
2. which ‘government’ (administration) prosecuted flynn?

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:08:27am

I have a small collection of bicyclists’ water bottles. One is from Womantours, a company that puts on catered tours across the country for women who can spend a few thousand dollars on a nice, long bike ride The bottle I have has the name of its original owner scrawled in fading Sharpie: Karen.

I’m keeping it, but I’m not carrying it.

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KGxvi  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:11:02am

re: #207 Decatur Deb

A lethal pandemic is pretty much the default definition of things not going over well.

Oh, I know. But from all indications, we’ve been fairly loose on the guidelines for the phased reopenings here. To the point where there’s been reports that some counties haven’t actually met the minimums but were greenlit anyway.

Things probably would have worked out better if we didn’t have shit leadership at the federal level (hell, there’s a decent argument to be made that competent leadership at the federal level means this would have looked more like H1N1 or the swine flu rather than this clusterfuck but that’s a whole other discussion). The quarantine was sold as an opportunity to get a handle on things, get testing, get resources in place, hopefully develop a vaccine. But with Trump’s bullshit we didn’t get that. And now, I think a lot of people are just fatigued.

If Newson announces tomorrow that we all have to go back inside, and there’s no real path forward beyond that, it’s going to be chaos.

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🌹UOJB!  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:11:29am

re: #204 KGxvi

My sense is that a lot of people here in California are getting restless with the quarantine. I’m not sure a second one is going to go over well. On the bright side, it seems like most people are at least wearing masks in public at least in the LA/LB/OC area that I live in.

The only ones not wearing masks in my area of Los Angeles are the MAGATS and the cops in the gym locker room talking about their steroid stacks…

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:11:43am

Tomorrow, because of a family court decree, my 9 yr old grandson will fly into Florida from Colorado. He will stay for a month with his moron father and the new hair-dresser wife. Our hard lockdown breaks when we pick up his mother at the airport.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:11:54am
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John Hughes  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:12:52am

re: #59 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Seriously he claims to be a nationalist. So why the fuck is he in our country? Also Islamo-Maoist Democrat lol.

Islamo-Maoists put themselves in reeducation camps?

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KGxvi  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:14:01am

re: #212 Joe Bacon 🌹

The only ones not wearing masks in my area of Los Angeles are the MAGATS and the cops in the gym locker room talking about their steroid stacks…

I’ll admit that I don’t always wear one, but that’s usually reserved for when I’m by myself or with the ladyfriend. If I’m somewhere that I know other people are going to be, or if I’m walking and see people coming, I put it on. Hell, I’ve even taken to wearing it while riding my bike on the (increasingly crowded) beach bike path.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:14:07am

re: #213 Decatur Deb

Tomorrow, because of a family court decree, my 9 yr old grandson will fly into Florida from Colorado. He will stay for a month with his moron father and the new hair-dresser wife. Our hard lockdown breaks when we pick up his mother at the airport.

When he comes back, you will need to either test him or quarantine him, neither of which he will like.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:14:19am

I am going to go ahead and predict right now we’re not going to see professional team sports until sometime next year.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:16:56am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200621 edition ——————————->
“The Rottweiler”

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Decatur Deb  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:16:58am

re: #217 Belafon

When he comes back, you will need to either test him or quarantine him, neither of which he will like.

He and his mother have been working/Zoom schooling from home for the last few months. It’s going to get improvisational if Colorado makes it difficult to retrieve him.

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stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:18:03am

re: #210 wrenchwench

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I have a small collection of bicyclists’ water bottles. One is from Womantours, a company that puts on catered tours across the country for women who can spend a few thousand dollars on a nice, long bike ride The bottle I have has the name of its original owner scrawled in fading Sharpie: Karen.

I’m keeping it, but I’m not carrying it.

I don’t trust using old water bottles. I tried to used one while on the office treadmill and when I squeezed (squoze?) it, it shattered and everything got wet. It was too brittle to use.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:18:04am

With so many newscasters working from home as of late, it’s providing some good YouTube fodder.

Best Work From Home News Bloopers #2

But this is still the greatest video conferencing bomb ever.

Children interrupt BBC News interview - BBC News

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:18:52am

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

I am going to go ahead and predict right now we’re not going to see professional team sports until sometime next year.

Though the mlbpa did announce players will report to camp next week. So we’ll see what happens when a team has a covid-19 outbreak!

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:19:49am

re: #221 stpaulbear

I don’t trust using old water bottles. I tried to used one while on the office treadmill and when I squeezed (squoze?) it, it shattered and everything got wet. It was too brittle to use.

When that happened to me (twice, but no treadmill), my collection got much smaller, and was taken entirely out of use.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:23:47am

re: #155 Dr Lizardo

If Biden wins, ten to one Flynn will flee the country.

I think a hell of a lot of Republicans and fellow-travelers (Jill Stein?) will flee the country.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:26:33am

re: #223 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Though the mlbpa did announce players will report to camp next week. So we’ll see what happens when a team has a covid-19 outbreak!

Phillies have already had one. And a couple of major NHL players have already caught it. I’m not sure how many well known players having their careers wrecked* by a infection it will take to get the sports to shut down. I expect the owners will try to brush by staff and low-level players getting ill. Not sure how much the players’ unions will take, and that might be the real key.

* - Thinking how a lung infection that degrades capacity by 10-20% could pretty much end a professional career.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:28:03am

Thousands are currently gathered in Moscow for a Victory Day Parade that Putin plans to use to, among other things, declare that Russia has triumphed over the Coronavirus, which is funny as hell as the same article I read that discussed the parade also mentions Putin is kept very isolated due to Covid-19 concerns and anyone who wants to see him must past through a “disinfection tunnel” , whatever the fuck that is.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:28:54am

re: #226 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Nevermind a career ending. Statistically speaking, a handful of players are likely to die from the disease.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:29:23am

re: #224 wrenchwench

When that happened to me (twice, but no treadmill), my collection got much smaller, and was taken entirely out of use.

i run with an amphipod belt and bottle. (it’s hot here in sofla, even at 5am)
i’ve been using the same bottle since 2014. no issues at all.
since i wont use a camelback, i just bought a second bottle to make pit stop changes faster

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:34:04am

Evidence that Democrats may finally be willing to nuke the filibuster if they win control of the Senate and the GOP obstructs desperately needed legislation as we all know they will. vox.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:34:53am

Forget it Junior, Daddy will never love you best.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:35:19am

a tale of two stories

Maybe Biden Is Running a Good Campaign?

“The fact that Biden has attracted less attention than Trump is not (as many Democrats have fretted) a failure. It is a strategic choice, and a broadly correct one.”


Trump’s Smoke-Him-Out Strategy

“The Trump campaign is getting very frustrated that Biden is keeping a low profile and letting Trump give himself uppercuts every day.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:36:38am

re: #134 Patricia Kayden

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Jail protesters bringing down statues of traitors (by the definition in our quaint Constitution), and freeing actual traitors. At least it is kinda consistent in a fucked up sort of way.

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wrenchwench  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:36:47am

re: #229 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

i run with an amphipod belt and bottle. (it’s hot here in sofla, even at 5am)
i’ve been using the same bottle since 2014. no issues at all.
since i wont use a camelback, i just bought a second bottle to make pit stop changes faster

When I switched from cycling to running in NM, The most difficult part was hydration. Carrying lots of water is so easy on a bike.

I got an USWE vest, then I got a larger capacity one, then I moved to OR. I have not resumed running yet. Lots of walking and some cycling (transportation, entirely). I’ll get there.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:37:35am

re: #31 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Biden’s lead is now in the double digits. Hard to see how Trump recovers during a combined pandemic/depression he has no clue how to address. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

And on July 21, 1988, Dukakis had a 17 point lead over Bush.

It’s nice to have such a lead but they are ephemeral. Things can change very quickly.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:37:44am

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

Forget it Junior, Daddy will never love you best.

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Let’s get a movement going! Let’s put on a show!!!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:38:14am

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

Forget it Junior, Daddy will never love you best.

Given how Donald seems to “love” his favorite, that’s for the best.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:39:13am

re: #236 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Let’s get a movement going to replace any statue torn down during these riots with a new and more sturdy statue of Donald Trump.

The nonsense would stop instantly.]

Monuments are usually erected to dead presidents/generals, except in totalitarian states…

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:41:22am

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

Save our monuments?

Confederate treasonweasels are the monuments Trump’s spawn wants to associate with. You’re from NYC. You live in a state that fought and gave lives to preserve the Union against those treasonweasels who fought to protect their right to own slaves.

Fuck ‘em.

And no fucking way any publicly owned statue to Trump will ever be erected.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:41:49am

re: #235 Hecuba’s daughter

And on July 21, 1988, Dukakis had a 17 point lead over Bush.

It’s nice to have such a lead but they are ephemeral. Things can change very quickly.

I think as long we keep Joe Biden away from tanks, we should be just fine.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:43:16am
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KGxvi  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:43:25am

re: #232 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Sun Tzu and Napoleon would be proud…

I think Sun Tzu said “If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him.” And Napoleon had the line about not interrupting your enemy while he is making a mistake.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:44:28am
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KGxvi  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:45:28am

re: #235 Hecuba’s daughter

And on July 21, 1988, Dukakis had a 17 point lead over Bush.

It’s nice to have such a lead but they are ephemeral. Things can change very quickly.

Bush was not the incumbent. Better comparisons would be 1976, 1980, and even 1992. Though ‘92 you need to look solely at the margin between Bush and Clinton rather than the actual numbers because Perot was drawing from both nominees.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:46:31am

re: #235 Hecuba’s daughter

And on July 21, 1988, Dukakis had a 17 point lead over Bush.

It’s nice to have such a lead but they are ephemeral. Things can change very quickly.

Dukakis was an unknown quantity, and Willie Horton was very effective at scaring white people. Which white people are going to be scared by an ad like that now that are thinking of voting for Biden?

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fern01  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:47:06am

Listening to Cuomo again (He just can’t stop). He is saying all the things Trump should be saying - and I wonder if it is feasible for Biden to give such talks on a regular basis.

What needs to be done at each stage of the virus in each state. How things should be handled, who should be isolated, how to get the coronavirus growth rates down, how to stop the spread. Get an expert working on the campaign and at the briefings.

He has to plan all this because the virus will still be here in January, so would this be a good campaign strategy?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:47:26am

re: #234 wrenchwench

When I switched from cycling to running in NM, The most difficult part was hydration. Carrying lots of water is so easy on a bike.

I got an USWE vest, then I got a larger capacity one, then I moved to OR. I have not resumed running yet. Lots of walking and some cycling (transportation, entirely). I’ll get there.

nothing wrong with a vest, i’m just not a fan personally.

in cooler weather, i can get by with 20 oz an hour so i run 6 mile loops or out/backs

in the summer heat, its 4 oz every 5 minutes so 15 minutes out, 15 minutes back, switch bottles and go out again. with the 2nd bottle, I can switch almost without stopping. for the longer runs, refilling from a pitcher takes 15 or 20 seconds, but now it’s every other stop instead of every one.

and yes, you will get there.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:48:31am

re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Monuments are usually erected to dead presidents/generals, except in totalitarian states…

i’m willing for him to make that sacrifice

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:49:07am

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

I think as long we keep Joe Biden away from tanks, we should be just fine.

/

helmets

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KGxvi  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:50:26am

re: #249 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

helmets

And clean suits.

Also, historical presidential polling, for those wondering where we stand now vs similar points in past races.

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John Hughes  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:51:08am

re: #150 Teukka

100F? Temperatures went over 305K here today. That’s nearly 550 Rankine for you guys using obsolete units.

Complaining about units as the world burns is my new hobby.

252
Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:51:10am

re: #246 fern01

Listening to Cuomo again (He just can’t stop). He is saying all the things Trump should be saying - and I wonder if it is feasible for Biden to give such talks on a regular basis.

What needs to be done at each stage of the virus in each state. How things should be handled, who should be isolated, how to get the coronavirus growth rates down, how to stop the spread. Get an expert working on the campaign and at the briefings.

He has to plan all this because the virus will still be here in January, so would this be a good campaign strategy?

Right now, no. Trump and the media would turn this into “How Biden is running a second government” and would argue about how Biden’s plans would fail rather than focusing on Trump failing. Save that stuff for debates if it’s going to be talked about.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:53:38am

re: #242 KGxvi

Sun Tzu and Napoleon would be proud…

I think Sun Tzu said “If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him.” And Napoleon had the line about not interrupting your enemy while he is making a mistake.

meanwhile read all of this: What’s Going on with Trump?
it’s at electoral-vote.com and will only take two minutes.

And now we present the correct answer to the question “What is Trump’s re-election strategy?” Here it is: He has no strategy. Just to make sure that is clear, we will present it Trump-tweet style: HE HAS NO STRATEGY

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KGxvi  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:54:22am

Question, since I was 2 at the time, and in my various readings on Reagan’s career, not much attention has been given to Anderson, what happened in June/July 1980 that saw Anderson go from 22% to 14% to basically being a non-factor by election day?

255
Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:56:21am

Trump is easy to provoke and thus easy to manipulate. Team Biden needs to keep using that.

256
fern01  Jun 24, 2020 • 9:56:50am

re: #252 Belafon

Right now, no. Trump and the media would turn this into “How Biden is running a second government” and would argue about how Biden’s plans would fail rather than focusing on Trump failing. Save that stuff for debates if it’s going to be talked about.

Thanks - Listening to Cuomo attacking the lack of plans from trump & the wrong paths of some government, I wondered how Biden could use this - but no doubt you know more about reactions that I do. I guess leaving trump to bring himself down is a good option.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:03:34am
258
Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:03:42am

There he goes again…

259
jaunte  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:03:56am

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

Want to save our monuments?

Let’s get a movement going to replace any statue torn down during these riots with a new and more sturdy statue of @realDonaldTrump.

The nonsense would stop instantly.

Junior admits that most Americans hate his daddy.

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stpaulbear  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:04:33am

re: #245 Belafon

Dukakis was an unknown quantity, and Willie Horton was very effective at scaring white people. Which white people are going to be scared by an ad like that now that are thinking of voting for Biden?

Dukakis also got blindsided by a question in a debate. His answer was used against him.

“Governor,” Bernard Shaw had asked, ”if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?”

Shaw, anchor for Cable News Network and moderator of the presidential debate, was asking Michael Dukakis if he would ever change his stand against capital punishment.

”It was an outrageous question, it really was,” Mrs. Dukakis said Friday.

Mrs. Dukakis, a strong-minded campaigner and her husband`s closest adviser, said she was embarrassed and did not want to make eye contact with her husband as he answered.

Dukakis, who seemed taken aback by the question, responded: ”No, I don`t, Bernard. And I think you know that I`ve opposed the death penalty during all of my life. I don`t see any evidence that it`s a deterrent, and I think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime.”

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:13:05am

re: #178 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

“Maybe I have nineteen naked photos of Ivanka. Not many people know about that.”

From what I hear, he’s not the only one.

262
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:20:36am

re: #258 Eclectic Cyborg

There he goes again…

[Embedded content]

“We are so sorry you confessed”

263
teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:21:01am

Gohmert. Being a petulant fucking child. Par for the course.

264
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:21:28am

Anyone who pleaded guilty to a crime in America should have their case reviewed.

265
Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:21:33am

re: #260 stpaulbear

Dukakis also got blindsided by a question in a debate. His answer was used against him.

That is pretty close to “when did you stop beating your wife.”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:21:44am

re: #259 jaunte

Junior admits that most Americans hate his daddy.

Out of the mouths of entitled babies…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:22:07am

re: #263 teleskiguy

Democrats ask for the Sergeant at Arms to remove Gohmert from the hearing room because he refuses to stop banging on a table

CENSORSHIP!!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:22:29am

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, why hasn’t this fascist moron been deported back to Hungary?

huffpost.com

Hasn’t Gorka been a U.S. citizen for the past several years? So, deporting not so easy unless he lied to get his citizenship.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:22:55am

re: #250 KGxvi

And clean suits.

Also, historical presidential polling, for those wondering where we stand now vs similar points in past races.

Thanks. It looks like Dukakis was the only one who was that far off by June/July. Most misses were by a few points.

270
Belafon  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:24:27am

re: #268 Hecuba’s daughter

Hasn’t Gorka been a U.S. citizen for the past several years? So, deporting not so easy unless he lied to get his citizenship.

According to wikipedia, he has been a US citizen since 2012, claiming Hungarian, British, and US citizenship.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:25:09am

re: #93 Ace Rothstein

If Biden wins Texas, it’s an extinction-level event for the GOP at the national level. Being a Texan, I will risk my life for that to happen.

After the 1964 election blowout, I put a sign on my dorm room showing the GOP dead and buried. And in 1968, they captured the presidency. The modern parties are very resilient and there is always some new issue or new candidate that can switch perception quickly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:26:27am

re: #271 Hecuba’s daughter

After the 1964 election blowout, I put a sign on my dorm room showing the GOP dead and buried. And in 1968, they captured the presidency. The modern parties are very resilient and there is always some new issue or new candidate that can switch perception quickly.

And they were back in the saddle only six years after Nixon resigned…

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Teddy's Person  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:26:55am

re: #263 teleskiguy

Gohmert. Being a petulant fucking child. Par for the course.

[Embedded content]

JFC, my taxes pay this asshole’s 6-figure salary. If he were at the local diner and started banging on the table, management would ask him to stop or leave.

I hate this motherfucking timeline.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:27:49am

re: #239 lawhawk

Save our monuments?

Confederate treasonweasels are the monuments Trump’s spawn wants to associate with. You’re from NYC. You live in a state that fought and gave lives to preserve the Union against those treasonweasels who fought to protect their right to own slaves.

Fuck ‘em.

And no fucking way any publicly owned statue to Trump will ever be erected.

Except as part of a urinal.
//

275
i(m)p(each)sos  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:28:28am

re: #251 John Hughes

100F? Temperatures went over 305K here today. That’s nearly 550 Rankine for you guys using obsolete units.

Complaining about units as the world burns is my new hobby.

Mine has been correcting everyone who’s promoting their online events as taking place at “9 PM EST” during the summer.

It’s remarkable, really, how many of them never had any clue that “EST” actually means something more than just “Eastern time,” and that “EDT” is something different, and that it’s much easier to just say “ET” unless you’re very specifically trying to tell someone when an event is happening the morning after Halloween. Or if you’re in Arizona, Hawaii or Puerto Rico.

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🌹UOJB!  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:31:11am

re: #232 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

a tale of two stories

Maybe Biden Is Running a Good Campaign?


Trump’s Smoke-Him-Out Strategy

Won’t stop the assholes at the New York Times from trying to endlessly kneecap Joe.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:34:19am

re: #260 stpaulbear

Dukakis also got blindsided by a question in a debate. His answer was used against him.

Maro Cuomo had a good answer to that question. His mom, at the time, was in ICU from a brutal mugging/beating.

“If you put me in a room alone with the guys that did that to her, I’d dismember them with my own bare hands.

“But the dispassionate considered decision of a court of law, in a civilized nation, cannot and should not emulate the visceral reaction of a furious next-of-kin.”

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 24, 2020 • 10:54:59am

re: #200 lawhawk

CA might shut back down, but TX, AZ, and FL aren’t given that their governors are Trumpists who’d ignore the health experts yet again. They have consistently moved in lockstep with Trump and ignored the rising cases. Now we’ll watch cases double within days. Deaths will follow closely behind.

California hasn’t really opened up. Imperial County (Rachel’s topic last night) is still completely shut down, so where their cases are coming from is something I can’t fathom — of course, they’re next door to Arizona. But they’re a very small county (174,000 people).

And we’re a large state — there are counties that have had no cases, or none in the last 14 days, and they’re allowed to be more open than the rest of us.

Overall, California flattened the curve, but now we’re rising slightly again. The governor has a press conference coming up in about 10 minutes, and I’ll be listening.

NB re red state governors ignoring medical advice: The governor of Arizona has been sounding pretty panicked. I think a large enough dose of reality may break through to followers of DT after all. If theiir nooses are rubbed in it.


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