Powerful Video: Ken Burns (And James Baldwin) on Some Context You May Not Know About the Statue of Liberty

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Our most venerated monuments represent a mythology. While we may hope the statue represents our highest aspirations of what America can and should be. It also can be a reminder of where and how far we fall short. Read more: washingtonpost.com. Subscribe to The Washington Post on YouTube: wapo.st

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:49:25pm

F to the T, the GOP, and the mendacious media that enables both™.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:49:50pm

GOTV! FT and all his enablers!

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:50:35pm

Reposted:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:50:36pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:51:25pm

Let me bring this up…… The series prolly needs to be paged but I don’t do that.

Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:52:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:53:59pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:55:38pm

OT For those Downton Abbey fans out there: this is the last week that it will be on PBS. Please check your local stations for air times. For those who get WHYY (Philadelphia and Wilmington) tomorrow Season 6 will be on tomorrow from 8 AM to 7 PM.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:57:22pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

The brand ought to fix the spelling of Boiardi, too.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:59:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2020 • 5:59:58pm

re: #9 jaunte

The brand ought to fix the spelling of Boiardi, too.

Fun With Phonics…

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:01:14pm

Bo Yardy

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Jay C  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:05:13pm

re: #9 jaunte

The brand ought to fix the spelling of Boiardi, too.

Well, “Boyardee” was the way old Hector/Ettore insisted on having it on his stuff when they went “commercial” - supposedly to make sure Americans could pronounce it “correctly”. And I’m sure he was OK with however it was spelled, as long as it had “Pay To The Order Of….” somewhere in there.

I knew there had actually been a real “Chef Boyardee” - but I had always thought (Dog knows why) that his name had been Joseph (Giuseppe). But I didn’t know he’d had his first restaurant in Cleveland - live. browse, and learn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:05:20pm
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Ming5000  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:05:34pm

Thanks, Charles, for the clip. Bracing. It made me reflect.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:06:01pm

re: #8 PhillyPretzel

OT For those Downton Abbey fans out there: this is the last week that it will be on PBS. Please check your local stations for air times. For those who get WHYY (Philadelphia and Wilmington) tomorrow Season 6 will be on tomorrow from 8 AM to 7 PM.

I joke with my wife that they will finish the movie and decide they can run it one more time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:06:09pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:06:36pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:07:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:08:16pm

niterz, lizardz!

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:08:37pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

How this isn’t a huge scandal that ends his presidency is beyond me. This is outrageous.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:09:45pm

“Grandpa, tell me the story again about how masks ruined our country.”

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:10:22pm

We watched Blues Brothers last night (my parents once again had not seen a movie I had shown their grandkids). It was fun trying to figure out who was an actual musician and who wasn’t. I think even with the cops and military people at the end, there were still more musicians than non-musical actors.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:10:29pm

re: #21 Patricia Kayden

How this isn’t a huge scandal that ends his presidency is beyond me. This is outrageous.

Because spineless Republicans will let him skate.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:11:36pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:13:11pm
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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:15:38pm

re: #9 jaunte

The brand ought to fix the spelling of Boiardi, too.

According to the Wiki he chose the phonetic spelling so that at least people would pronounce his name correctly.

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Interesting Times  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:16:42pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:17:21pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

Something I learned today: Chef Boyardee (Ettore Boiardi) was a real person - an immigrant from Italy, who found fame and success in Cleveland. And now there’s a proposal in Cleveland to replace the city’s statue of Columbus with Boiardi.

I did not know this! But I have often wondered where that odd product name came from. Some more trivia to store in the already overstuffed trivia file.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:21:30pm

I’m off for a nap. I’ll catch y’all later.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:24:27pm

re: #27 William Lewis

According to the Wiki he chose the phonetic spelling so that at least people would pronounce his name correctly.

Similar to my own last name, for which I have found at least a dozen spellings across the generations.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:24:45pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:29:24pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:32:33pm

re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m off for a nap. I’ll catch y’all later.

Here till 6…..

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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:33:10pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:36:12pm

Every time I see Fat Donny salute, my bile rises….

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NetworkKed  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:43:42pm

Why the hell is the US Space Force advertising on ESPN?

I mean seriously, what the fuck.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:45:57pm

re: #37 NetworkKed

Why the hell is the US Space Force advertising on ESPN?

I mean seriously, what the fuck.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:46:27pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:49:43pm
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BigPapa  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:57:12pm

Between James Baldwin, Ken Burns, and Sasha Baron Cohen, my heart is full right now.

But shit Charles, if you said ‘5 min video of Ken Burns and James Baldwin’ I would not think much because Burns is about length and depth… but that 5 min was super rich.

If we are going to truly move past our racist founding and history James Baldwin is an extremely important voice. That he speaks with such grace and poise, as if an art, is a bonus.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jun 27, 2020 • 6:59:30pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Strange fruit.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:01:26pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:03:41pm

re: #39 jaunte

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:05:39pm

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Teddy's Person  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:07:23pm

I just realized that the bow tie the groomer put on Teddy today is reusable. Teddy has formal wear y’all.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:11:28pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

Because spineless Republicans will let him skate.

Democrats can’t let him skate. Beat Trump up with this scandal every day right up to the election. I’m not sure why Democrats aren’t more aggressive given all the mess Trump has dumped in their laps. Perhaps they’re exhausted.

Can you imagine if this had happened under President Obama? I can.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:14:58pm

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:15:48pm
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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:21:46pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:25:54pm
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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:28:03pm

In the midst of the pandemic, real tragedy hits Texas couple:

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teleskiguy  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:28:44pm

re: #39 jaunte

Just commented on this *public* Facebook page. Heard back from Yelm councilmember Mr. Blair right quick.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:29:05pm

Cheese deficiency is just sucking the life out of her.

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Targetpractice  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:32:24pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ve actually known this for awhile, all because of this special that History Channel used to play every Thanksgiving…back when it was actually about history:

American Eats: More American Eats

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:32:48pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

“3. Identification of enemies as a unifying cause.”

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gwangung  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:33:32pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

Just commented on this *public* Facebook page. Heard back from Yelm councilmember Mr. Blair right quick.

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A hit dog will holler, don’t he?

It wouldn’t bother him so much if there wasn’t a bit of truth in there, would it?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:33:47pm

re: #53 jaunte

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:35:05pm

Nuestra Señora de Velveeta

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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:35:38pm

This thread is the best thing you will see all evening. Seriously, I got Obama tears after looking at it.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:36:02pm

re: #60 jaunte

Nuestra Señora de Velveeta

It’s not the food. It’s him. He’s gone.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:40:01pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:45:33pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:45:54pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:45:59pm

Tax the churches.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:46:30pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:48:40pm

She’s still at it:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:51:55pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:53:07pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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whats worse?
“they” didn’t tell me (as if)
or
I didnt do anything about it

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:53:25pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Really defending against tyranny there I see.

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teleskiguy  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:54:39pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:56:34pm

re: #70 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

whats worse?
“they” didn’t tell me (as if)
or
I didnt do anything about it

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Both but I know you know this. This whole administration goddamn they make me sick.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 7:59:10pm
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Belafon  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:00:32pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:02:55pm

Nightly diversion:

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:02:57pm

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Dread Pirate  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:03:52pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:15:39pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:15:59pm

rawstory jackson Katz wrote two months ago…..

“The straightforward explanation for why the federal government has done such a poor job in response to the coronavirus crisis is that Donald Trump is simply not man enough to be president of the United States..” {…}

“The model of masculine power on which Trump’s political career is based has been rendered obsolete by COVID-19. You can’t intimidate a microbe with verbal taunts. You can’t bully a virus……. this is a public health crisis that can’t be solved by angry tweets or theatrical displays of bravado.”

“It is beyond tragic that the most powerful man in the world is such a small man, utterly incapable of rising to the occasion and providing the leadership this catastrophe so desperately requires

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:16:17pm

Chat Noir hanging out on neighbor’s patio

Still typing comments on the other side

Dammit. Chat Noir crossed the Rainbow Bridge about an hour ago. QoL issues reared up in the past day or so with him not eating anything at all and having constant nausea and vomiting issues. Vet at the clinic indicated that it was probably renal failure and that while hospitalization could stabilize things the damage couldn’t really be reversed.

Hoisting a few drinks in his honor this evening since he will be missed.

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:16:48pm
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Jay C  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:19:56pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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Dammit. Chat Noir crossed the Rainbow Bridge about an hour ago. QoL issues reared up in the past day or so with him not eating anything at all and having constant nausea and vomiting issues. Vet at the clinic indicated that it was probably renal failure and that while hospitalization could stabilize things the damage couldn’t really be reversed.

Hoisting a few drinks in his honor this evening since he will be missed.

So sorry, FFL: condolences. 😢

Adieu, Chat Noir.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:20:45pm

Police reform seems likely to join gun control and immigration as issues where Americans overwhelmingly support changes, but Congress the republican senate is unable or unwilling to do anything

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:23:46pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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Dammit. Chat Noir crossed the Rainbow Bridge about an hour ago. QoL issues reared up in the past day or so with him not eating anything at all and having constant nausea and vomiting issues. Vet at the clinic indicated that it was probably renal failure and that while hospitalization could stabilize things the damage couldn’t really be reversed.

Hoisting a few drinks in his honor this evening since he will be missed.

[[[]]]
May he enjoy eternal chin skritches…

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:24:03pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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Dammit. Chat Noir crossed the Rainbow Bridge about an hour ago. QoL issues reared up in the past day or so with him not eating anything at all and having constant nausea and vomiting issues. Vet at the clinic indicated that it was probably renal failure and that while hospitalization could stabilize things the damage couldn’t really be reversed.

Hoisting a few drinks in his honor this evening since he will be missed.

< Lifts shot glass > To absent friends.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:26:38pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:28:55pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So sorry to hear of his passing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:29:59pm

re: #87 Patricia Kayden

Damn it
Now I want some boneless cherry cake donuts

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cat-tikvah  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:31:12pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So sorry, FFL. They leave their pawprints on our hearts.
Au revoir, Chat Noir. You were much loved and will be dearly missed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:31:29pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:34:08pm

re: #69 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:38:34pm

The way the Louisville shooter stands brazenly in the open certainly suggests a boogaloo boy: It does not enter his mind that he might not be the only one there with a gun. This one got away with it this time, but sooner or later this assumption is going to get some of them killed, and good riddance.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:38:59pm

I usually visit my Canadian family and friends in June but not this year. Sigh.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:40:38pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:46:37pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So sorry for your loss.

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:48:20pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The way the Louisville shooter stands brazenly in the open certainly suggests a boogaloo boy: It does not enter his mind that he might not be the only one there with a gun. This one got away with it this time, but sooner or later this assumption is going to get some of them killed, and good riddance.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:49:51pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:53:32pm
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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:54:35pm

My mother sat down next to me on the couch and since I had my phone in my hand, I took the opportunity to take a selfie of us. I am 60 and she is 80. I don’t think either of us look our ages.

When I was a kid, mom used to tell me that we were going to be little old ladies together. It might come true!

Mom and me
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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:54:41pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“allowing the company to bill users for legal fees relating to their posts”

But muh First Amendment!

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 27, 2020 • 8:59:03pm

re: #100 mmmirele

{{{}}} Hugs

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:04:44pm
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jaunte  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:19:10pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:21:13pm
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CleverToad  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:23:28pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

{{{FFL & crew}}}
Always so hard. Knowing it’s the right decision doesn’t ease it much.
Hold tight to the many good memories.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:29:46pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:30:11pm

I’ve read parts of this thread throughout the day.
It’s 46 tweets long

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:36:16pm

I went and looked up the Emancipation memorial with Lincoln. I had never heard of it before, but it looks like it was designed by the Confederacy.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:46:56pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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Dammit. Chat Noir crossed the Rainbow Bridge about an hour ago. QoL issues reared up in the past day or so with him not eating anything at all and having constant nausea and vomiting issues. Vet at the clinic indicated that it was probably renal failure and that while hospitalization could stabilize things the damage couldn’t really be reversed.

Hoisting a few drinks in his honor this evening since he will be missed.

sorry. sad to lose a beloved animal.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:51:44pm

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Condolences.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:55:26pm

Went into Manhattan today to celebrate my twin’s birthday. We did takeout and ate at my ex’s apt. The subways have never been cleaner (they are closing down every night at 1AM to clean).

We played Settlers of Catan and I was forced to watch an episode of “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.”

No fights, so I will declare victory. Hoping for a non quarantine b-day next year.

Also, FT

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:57:58pm

Bryant Gumbel talks about the “Black Tax” on Real Sports, and this line stands out for me:

It’s about having to overlook blue failings and white failings so that they can be conveniently viewed as black issues.

dailykos.com

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:58:48pm

Censorship!

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2020 • 9:59:16pm

We were talking about the flag shapes the other day:

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:01:02pm

re: #114 DodgerFan1988

Censorship!

Snicker!

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TedStriker  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:10:48pm

re: #114 DodgerFan1988

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Censorship!

From that thread, I now can’t unsee this…and it fits:

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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:13:59pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:14:49pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:23:27pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Uhh, yeah……Parler seems to be more like some kind of data-mining operation than a microblogging site.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:23:57pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:26:02pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:28:36pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:34:55pm
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sagehen  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:36:34pm

I finally figured out why I hate K-Pop.

It’s not because the music is generic. It’s that the choreography is a cross between synchronized swimming and the Rockettes.

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Targetpractice  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:45:34pm

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

Uhh, yeah……Parler seems to be more like some kind of data-mining operation than a microblogging site.

It would certainly be better if it were, because the alternative is that these jackasses have conned hundreds to thousands of people to fork over their personal info in a manner that has “PSN Hack” written all over it.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:52:35pm

re: #125 sagehen

I finally figured out why I hate K-Pop.

It’s not because the music is generic. It’s that the choreography is a cross between synchronized swimming and the Rockettes.

A Jason Derulo video.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:53:34pm

re: #126 Targetpractice

It would certainly be better if it were, because the alternative is that these jackasses have conned hundreds to thousands of people to fork over their personal info in a manner that has “PSN Hack” written all over it.

I’d forgotten about the PSN hack.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2020 • 10:56:02pm

re: #125 sagehen

I finally figured out why I hate K-Pop.

It’s not because the music is generic. It’s that the choreography is a cross between synchronized swimming and the Rockettes.

Also made me think of this commercial:

AT&T Spotify Premium “Just OK Boy Band” Commercial - HD Quality - Nathan Walters

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 27, 2020 • 11:30:10pm

This has been bothering me. Does the president only get told things once? Hard to believe that something this big would only get mentioned once and forgotten, that intelligence pros would not be concerned that things this big were not being addressed.

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Mattand  Jun 28, 2020 • 12:00:47am

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So sorry to hear that. Condolences.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 12:04:15am

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chef Boyardee (Ettore Boiardi) was a real person - an immigrant from Italy, who found fame and success in Cleveland. And now there’s a proposal in Cleveland to replace the city’s statue of Columbus with Boiardi.

Boy, are de bigots gonna be upset wit dat!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 12:13:54am

re: #78 Dread Pirate

The “vote” to approve changes to the Russian Constitution to make Putin’s dictator for life status official is on July 1. But the Constitution with the

Like the story of the Soviet delegation visiting the chambers for the planned Nürnberg Trials and asking where the gallows were. To which the hosts explained: “We wait until they are found guilty before building the gallows!”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 28, 2020 • 1:17:30am
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Scout  Jun 28, 2020 • 1:19:44am

Here’s some good news, for a change:

Clever cat wins police plaudits in Japan

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mmmirele  Jun 28, 2020 • 1:33:44am

…trying to keep myself entertained while sitting on a phone line for the next 3.5 hours…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 2:01:11am

re: #136 mmmirele

…trying to keep myself entertained while sitting on a phone line for the next 3.5 hours…

Just click on Claire de Lune and you’ve certainly got better music than what they play over the phone

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Decatur Deb  Jun 28, 2020 • 2:20:01am

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

QoL is everything. Over the decades we have put down several pets. The only decisions we regret are those that went too long.

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mmmirele  Jun 28, 2020 • 2:24:28am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just click on Claire de Lune and you’ve certainly got better music than what they play over the phone

Well now

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 2:25:51am

re: #136 mmmirele

Did you know that ’80s aerobics are more entertaining when set to Rob Zombie?

80s Aerobics video to the tune of Rob Zombie’s Dragula

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2020 • 2:31:40am

That Yelm, WA councilperson and his III% goon friends who got epically punked by Sacha Baron Cohen yesterday are in major CYA mode on Facebook. I’m betting the footage Cohen filmed makes them all look really bad.

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mmmirele  Jun 28, 2020 • 2:33:08am

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

Did you know that ’80s aerobics are more entertaining when set to Rob Zombie?

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That they are. I had to remember it’s only 02:30 here and, no, my next door neighbor doesn’t need to be hearing the dulcet tones of Rob Zombie in the dead of night.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 2:36:49am

re: #141 teleskiguy

That Yelm, WA councilperson and his III% goon friends who got epically punked by Sacha Baron Cohen yesterday are in major CYA mode on Facebook. I’m betting the footage Cohen filmed makes them all look really bad.

A sing-along country version of Let’s Throw the Jew Down the Well?

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2020 • 2:41:08am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A sing-along country version of Let’s Throw the Jew Down the Well?

That’s definitely part of it. Someone shot over 8 minutes of footage on a cell phone.

Sacha Baron Cohen sing along

I’m sure the professional crew Sacha Baron Cohen had onsite filmed some truly revolting things we don’t yet know about.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 28, 2020 • 2:46:03am

re: #144 teleskiguy

“Saw them up like the Saudi’s do”……

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teleskiguy  Jun 28, 2020 • 2:51:52am

re: #145 Dave In Austin

I have to admit, the fuckin’ ditty is pretty goddamned catchy.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 28, 2020 • 3:05:16am

I’m always fascinated by looking at satellite images of our planet, and how the marks we’ve left on the surface can be so obvious and yet so puzzling: goo.gl

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steve_davis  Jun 28, 2020 • 3:07:40am

re: #48 Patricia Kayden

Democrats can’t let him skate. Beat Trump up with this scandal every day right up to the election. I’m not sure why Democrats aren’t more aggressive given all the mess Trump has dumped in their laps. Perhaps they’re exhausted.

Can you imagine if this had happened under President Obama? I can.

they’re waiting for the white house to completely bury itself by having trump categorically deny all of this with a tweet. then they’ll bring in the evidence clearly showing that trump was briefed on this, possibly multiple times.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 28, 2020 • 3:08:02am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 28, 2020 • 3:52:35am

re: #117 TedStriker

So what happened to free speech? Rightwingers are pro-fascist speech — not free speech.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 4:13:46am

re: #150 Patricia Kayden

So what happened to free speech? Rightwingers are pro-fascist speech — not free speech.

And are just fine as long as it is only white people brandishing weapons in public…

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 4:17:51am

rep katie porters sister

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 4:18:30am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 4:20:07am

re: #153 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Regardless of any discussion of rescheduling an election, Trump’s term in office ends on January 20th, 2021. It is not automatically extended if there is no new candidate chosen, instead, laws of Succession would apply.

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 4:32:01am

re: #152 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

rep katie porters sister

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 28, 2020 • 4:36:38am

re: #119 Dread Pirate

So after Trump and Pence found out about Russia’s bounties on American troops, what action did they take to address this? Did they demand that Congress pass legislation sanctioning Russia? Did they order any military action against Russia? Looks like they did nothing and we wouldn’t be aware of this except for the NYT.

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stpaulbear  Jun 28, 2020 • 4:39:33am

The Washington Post has got a brutal news piece this morning entitled With Trump leading the way, America’s coronavirus failures exposed by record surge in new infections. They are pulling no punches. It’s not an opinion piece at all. It’s straight new.

For a while now, the WaPo has dropped the paywall on news and opinion pieces related to Corona virus.There’s a lot to read for free.

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stpaulbear  Jun 28, 2020 • 4:44:40am

re: #122 Targetpractice

Parler = Rapture Twitter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 4:51:55am

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

They can waffle all they want about whether they were briefed on it, but cannot get out of a failure to react to the information.

Or just call it “fake news” because it did not come from Fox or RT?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:00:22am

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

Did you know that ’80s aerobics are more entertaining when set to Rob Zombie?

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That was hysterical. Were people really supposed to follow along with those “exercises”? Because I don’t think I know anyone who can kick that high.

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jeffreyw  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:01:18am

The Shadow Knows

Good morning!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:17:18am

re: #144 teleskiguy

That’s definitely part of it.
I’m sure the professional crew Sacha Baron Cohen had onsite filmed some truly revolting things we don’t yet know about.

Yet.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:18:10am

re: #160 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That was hysterical. Were people really supposed to follow along with those “exercises”? Because I don’t think I know anyone who can kick that high.

I have my doubts. Maybe someone who was really athletic and had doing aerobics for a long time, or maybe someone who’d been practicing martial arts could do it, but no way in hell could someone just starting out pull that off - at least, not with pulling a muscle (or several).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:22:30am

JFC

After Drinking Hand Sanitizer, 3 Dead and 1 Permanently Blinded In New Mexico

Three people in New Mexico died and one became permanently blinded after drinking hand sanitizer.

The New Mexico Department of Health released a statement Friday indicating that that three of seven people who ingested had sanitizer in May died from methanol poisoning; one was blinded permanently; and the other three remain in critical condition.

Kathy Kunkel, the secretary for the state health department, said in the statement that those who have either consumed or ingested hand sanitizer containing methanol should “seek immediate medical care.”“An antidote to methanol poisoning is available, but the earlier someone gets treated for methanol poisoning the better the chance of recovery,” Kunkel said.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:24:12am

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

JFC

After Drinking Hand Sanitizer, 3 Dead and 1 Permanently Blinded In New Mexico

75% protection rate against Corona infection!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:26:01am

re: #152 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

She was getting shit about using OBGYN as the example.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:28:16am

re: #166 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She was getting shit about using OBGYN as the example.

How about a gay proctologist?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:32:15am

re: #163 Dr Lizardo

I have my doubts. Maybe someone who was really athletic and had doing aerobics for a long time, or maybe someone who’d been practicing martial arts could do it, but no way in hell could someone just starting out pull that off - at least, not with pulling a muscle (or several).

There’s a challenge in there somewhere. The 2020 ice bucket challenge except with more kicks (and you need the ice bucket to maybe stay out of the emergency room).

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:38:37am

If you want some reassurance that 2020 won’t be a replay of 2016, Biden is a lot more popular than Clinton was, and Trump beat her by the skin of his teeth. slate.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:41:09am

re: #138 Decatur Deb

QoL is everything. Over the decades we have put down several pets. The only decisions we regret are those that went too long.

Yes, that’s the key thing to keep an eye on. Up to the middle of last week I thought he was still doing pretty well. He liked going outside for walks, was fairly active for part of the day, was eating decently, and though he was isolating himself for most of the day would show up in the evening to sit on a lap and get some attention.

And he’s not been the first family pet I’ve had to deal with this sort of thing. One of the Siamese went out due to kidney failure as well. (Though at age 17 as compared to this one fairly young at age 7.)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:41:58am

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

JFC

After Drinking Hand Sanitizer, 3 Dead and 1 Permanently Blinded In New Mexico

Where product placement rules. 👀

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:42:38am

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How about a gay proctologist?

Still not as scary as those icky girl parts.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:46:54am

JFC. I mean holy shit JFC.

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 5:51:38am

re: #166 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She was getting shit about using OBGYN as the example.

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I knew collecting corona memes would pay off :D

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 28, 2020 • 6:09:47am

re: #173 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

JFC. I mean holy shit JFC.

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It seems like the President praising a white power chant should be getting more attention, but there is also the President supporting Russia while it’s offering a bounty on our troops, and the President knowingly distributing defective antibody tests, and the President removing social distancing stickers at his rally, etc.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 6:24:24am

Hmmm…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 6:28:27am

And like a Twinkie, it’ll last forever!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 6:32:34am
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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 6:49:12am

Copycating Charles :D

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 28, 2020 • 6:54:06am

re: #155 Teukka

That’s nothing compared to remote emergency rooms where there is no flesh and blood emergency MD, where you may be intubated by a PA.

But that’s nothing compared to the fact that the majority of US ER physicians are owned by a handful of firms, backed by private equity, who are masters at cashectomy.

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HypnoToad  Jun 28, 2020 • 6:57:33am

re: #161 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Facehuggers can fly? Thanks 2020

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 6:58:53am

The best non journalist explanation of trump I have read

A.R. in Los Angeles, CA, writes: (Z) speculated that Donald Trump had declared the China trade deal dead, told Peter Navarro, and then cooled off and changed his mind. He also mused that administrations usually improve their messaging over time and get better at the “nuts and bolts” of running the country. That assumes, of course, that the man at the top cares one iota about running the country or about consistent, truthful messaging. Donald Trump cares about one thing and one thing only: Donald Trump. He has been completely consistent throughout his career and his presidency on that score. He will say whatever he thinks he needs to say to get what he wants at any given moment. I have no doubt he told Navarro that the deal was dead. When Navarro announced that, the markets tanked. So, Trump took to twitter and said exactly the opposite and the markets recovered—problem solved. He doesn’t care whether there’s actually a deal with China and he doesn’t care whether China actually buys more soybeans or not. All he cares about is the announcement and appearances and the reaction of his base, his donors and the markets. That’s it!

It was the same with the Bidens and Burisma. Trump didn’t care whether an investigation was actually done or whether there was any basis for one—all he wanted was the announcement. He doesn’t care whether North Korea actually dismantles its nuclear arsenal. All he cared about was the photo op and the announcement of some vague deal. No one believes Trump is actually religious. All he wanted was a photo in front of a church holding a Bible. Likewise, he doesn’t care about the outcome of Barr’s investigation into the investigators or whether that’s proper—all he wanted was the announcement.

It’s the same with COVID-19. It’s a hoax when he wants to pack an arena and it’s a deadly scourge when he wants to restrict immigration. He doesn’t care how many people actually test positive; he just doesn’t want it announced—that’s why he doesn’t want any more testing. It was the same in his career, and he bragged about it. How many floors are in his new building? It depends who’s asking. If it’s the press, it’s 100 floors. If it’s the Building Department, who will charge more for a permit, then it’s 80. If he wanted a loan, his loan application claimed he was rich as Croesus. If it’s a tax return, suddenly he’s a pauper. The truth is irrelevant. He says whatever he needs to say in the moment to get what he wants in the moment. That’s the entirety of what drives him and he has never, ever deviated from that, even as president.

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Jay C  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:00:25am

re: #179 Teukka

Copycating Charles :D

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So is this a preview of Trump’s Presidential campaign “strategy”? Rely mainly on trite Twitter insults?
About what I’d expect, but I’m thinking that The Great Sloganeering Tour might not be so effective this time round….

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:05:37am

My bet. It was in his briefing and he didn’t care to read it because he was more concerned about whatever triviality was bothering him at that moment. He’s unfit to be President. That’s as true now in June 2020 as it was when he first ran. He really needs to be the first American President to go to prison and I’d be fine with a life sentence.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:06:08am

re: #183 Jay C

So is this a preview of Trump’s Presidential campaign “strategy”? Rely mainly on trite Twitter insults?
About what I’d expect, but I’m thinking that The Great Sloganeering Tour might not be so effective this time round….

He thinks what worked in 2016 will work again. He’s wrong.

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jeffreyw  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:07:46am

re: #181 HypnoToad

Facehuggers can fly? Thanks 2020

Yes, but they can be killed:

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:10:12am

re: #139 mmmirele

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Jay C  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:14:21am

re: #186 jeffreyw

Yes, but they can be killed:

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Sorry, man, you see a shell like that, better start eyeing the bushes VERY carefully for what may be scuttling around.
And take care of that *stomachache* ASAP…

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jeffreyw  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:16:57am

re: #188 Jay C

Sorry, man, you see a shell like that, better start eyeing the bushes VERY carefully for what may be scuttling around.
And take care of that *stomachache* ASAP…

It’s just heartburn, I’m sure..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:20:14am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:25:35am

re: #122 Targetpractice

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:29:13am

Am I too rude/harsh/toxic for having come up with a new derogatory nickname for QAnon afficianados?

Singular: Quck
Plural: Qucks

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:29:39am

re: #192 Teukka

Am I too rude/harsh/toxic for having come up with a new derogatory nickname for QAnon afficianados?

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Not at all

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:30:31am

PERTECK ARE RELIJUSS FREEDUMBS!!!1!!11!

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:33:56am

re: #179 Teukka

“Corrupt Joe is shot”

Trump indulging himself in some murder fantasy.

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jeffreyw  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:35:14am

Thread needs more bacon.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:36:57am

re: #194 The Pie Overlord!

PERTECK ARE RELIJUSS FREEDUMBS!!!1!!11!

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Of course Trump loves Jeffress. They both understand scripture and history equally poorly.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:38:27am

re: #190 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Big time. The word was just negating what the first part of the statement said.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:39:42am

re: #161 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:40:20am

re: #197 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Of course Trump loves Jeffress. They both understand scripture and history equally poorly.

They both hate non-white non-Protestants equally intensely

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:42:12am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They both hate non-white non-Protestants equally intensely

I noticed.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:46:04am

View from a very nice dog park


Photo from a pre Covid19 world
Good Morning! And for those wondering, the sit and stay photo op was after the extended visit to the park
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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:46:25am

*tehee*

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:50:02am

re: #176 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Hmmm…

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Oh honey, none of that is going to happen….

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:50:55am

re: #177 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And like a Twinkie, it’ll last forever!

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Anyone try to eat it yet?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:51:15am

re: #204 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

If reporting about Russian bounties on US forces is true, the White House must explain:
1. Why weren’t the president or vice president briefed? Was the info in the PDB?
2. Who did know and when?
3. What has been done in response to protect our forces & hold Putin accountable?

I assume they are just gonna call it Fake News.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:52:24am

Eric Boelert:

“…Trump’s at war with an unraveling America, that much is clear. The parallel reality is that the American press corps does not know how to deal with this frightening scenario. Or it does know, it just doesn’t have the courage to put that into practice.

Too timid to call Trump out as a radical saboteur who foments racial violence for political purposes, the Beltway media busies itself chronicling his controversies, documenting his “falsehoods” (never “lies”), and occasionally highlighting his hypocrisy. But an honest discussion about Trump’s plot against America? That’s not really allowed in the news pages.”
pressrun.media

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:53:01am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:54:58am

re: #208 jaunte

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Trump is a traitor. Lock him up forever.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:55:25am

re: #192 Teukka

There is nothing too rude, harsh or toxic to describe these horrible assholes.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:56:13am

re: #192 Teukka

Am I too rude/harsh/toxic for having come up with a new derogatory nickname for QAnon afficianados?

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It’s quite clever

I just stick with crackpots

If I want to be clever qrackpots works too
Or quackpots

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:57:42am

re: #196 jeffreyw

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Thread needs more bacon.

Mrs dm and I have decided we want to come and live with you

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:57:54am

re: #175 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Instead, it’s just another day ending in “y.”

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:58:58am
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:59:26am

re: #211 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

It’s quite clever

I just stick with crackpots

If I want to be clever qrackpots works too
Or quackpots

Q-bots. If I talked about them. Which I don’t.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 7:59:42am

re: #198 Eventual Carrion

Big time. The word was just negating what the first part of the statement said.

That’s my pet peeve with misusing “but”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:02:19am

re: #214 jaunte

How long until we see points about how chanting “white power!” is just like saying “black lives matter”?

ALL POWER MATTERS!!!!

4th of July is another holiday that makes me homesick for barbecues and fireworks…

I am feeling less homesick again.

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Belafon  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:04:33am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:08:37am

He’s hiding out in my district again today to golf. Let it rain.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:09:11am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:10:02am

re: #214 jaunte

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ie only one bolton per administration

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jeffreyw  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:11:32am

re: #212 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Mrs dm and I have decided we want to come and live with you

Do you do windows?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:11:38am

re: #220 jaunte

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Whatever Tim. This isn’t the first time he’s done this and it’s not the last. You and your fellow Republicans ignored the impeachment. He’s all yours and your party should be defined by this orange cowardly racist traitor.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:12:31am

re: #211 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

It’s quite clever

I just stick with crackpots

If I want to be clever qrackpots works too
Or quackpots

Qwackpots.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:13:31am

Qholes.

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stpaulbear  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:14:15am

re: #220 jaunte

If Trump won’t take it down (he won’t), then Twitter should take it down. Fuck it.

What a profile in courage Tim “It’s all offensive” Scott is.

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Belafon  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:15:17am

Thinking about the election this November. Let’s say, hypothetically, that Buden wins Texas. This means he’s probably heading toward a victory only rivaled by Nixon’s reelection. But I can imagine Trump screaming about it being proof of electoral fraud. But the thing is, it’s Texas. All of the election shenanigans are going to be to benefit Republicans. There’s no way you could argue that somehow Democrats got away with something.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:15:37am

Heh. It’s actually been deleted. I wonder which staffers lost the coin flip and had to wrestle the phone from him.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:16:07am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:16:19am

re: #220 jaunte

Trump’s token knee-grow (apologies, honestly); the guy who’s going to manage the whole police reform issue, is concerned. Maybe even disappointed.

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:17:41am

re: #226 stpaulbear

“Won’t play politics” with a supporter of white power.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:17:44am

But then he tweeted this:

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:17:58am

re: #229 The Pie Overlord!

Hello, Lincoln Project? We have a deleted tweet for you.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:19:03am

re: #232 The Pie Overlord!

But then he tweeted this:

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Going back to the oldies I see.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:19:10am

re: #232 The Pie Overlord!

Narrator: “But Biden never said that.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:20:40am

re: #229 The Pie Overlord!

President Trump has deleted his tweet thanking a supporter of his who was filmed yelling, “white power!”

Do not let President White power live this one down

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:20:51am

Is it raining on the golf course or something?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:21:44am

re: #222 jeffreyw

Do you do windows?

if you feed us like in the pix

oh wait.
. how many?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:21:46am

re: #237 The Pie Overlord!

Probably just another phony Times hit job, just like their failed Russia Hoax. Who is their “source”?

The Fake News fallback position.

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Jay C  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:21:53am

re: #227 Belafon

Thinking about the election this November. Let’s say, hypothetically, that Buden wins Texas. This means he’s probably heading toward a victory only rivaled by Nixon’s reelection. But I can imagine Trump screaming about it being proof of electoral fraud. But the thing is, it’s Texas. All of the election shenanigans are going to be to benefit Republicans. There’s no way you could argue that somehow Democrats got away with something.

If the Biden ticket wins Texas in the November election, it will probably be as part of a “blue tsunami” in which TX’s EVs are likely to be irrelevant in any case. Those “extra” 38 EVs would just be more icing on a still-very-delicious cake. Though even tastier when salted by GOP tears…..

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:22:03am

re: #224 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Qwackpots.

better

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:23:05am

re: #237 The Pie Overlord!

Is it raining on the golf course or something?

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Not raining here. I think if it rains here, it will be in the late afternoon.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:23:48am

re: #227 Belafon

Thinking about the election this November. Let’s say, hypothetically, that Buden wins Texas. This means he’s probably heading toward a victory only rivaled by Nixon’s reelection. But I can imagine Trump screaming about it being proof of electoral fraud. But the thing is, it’s Texas. All of the election shenanigans are going to be to benefit Republicans. There’s no way you could argue that somehow Democrats got away with something.

any allegation of fraud will have to point to something specific, with evidence

general bloviating that “it just couldn’t be” wont fly

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:24:26am

re: #229 The Pie Overlord!

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still quite a headline isn’t it?

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:25:24am
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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:25:49am

re: #244 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

still quite a headline isn’t it?

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jeffreyw  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:27:00am

re: #238 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

if you feed us like in the pix

oh wait.
. how many?

I have 4 machines upstairs, 5 in the basement. Plus a linux box.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:27:18am

re: #240 Jay C

If the Biden ticket wins Texas in the November election, it will probably be as part of a “blue tsunami” in which TX’s EVs are likely to be irrelevant in any case. Those “extra” 38 EVs would just be more icing on a still-very-delicious cake. Though even tastier when salted by GOP tears…..

according to electoral-vote.com today Texas is the eighth state past the tipping point state that puts biden over

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retired cynic  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:28:10am

re: #182 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

“I have no doubt he told Navarro that the deal was dead. When Navarro announced that, the markets tanked. So, Trump took to twitter and said exactly the opposite and the markets recovered—problem solved. He doesn’t care whether there’s actually a deal with China and he doesn’t care whether China actually buys more soybeans or not. All he cares about is the announcement and appearances and the reaction of his base, his donors and the markets. That’s it!”

OR, the family made a killing on the drop and bounce.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:28:16am

re: #247 jeffreyw

I have 4 machines upstairs, 5 in the basement. Plus a linux box.

oh, you. ;-)

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:29:52am

re: #245 jaunte

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:32:00am

Here come the “Low IQ” attacks

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NetworkKed  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:32:26am

re: #248 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

according to electoral-vote.com today Texas is the eighth state past the tipping point state that puts biden over

They show a MAY poll in Utah that had Trump +3. In May. Wow.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:33:11am

re: #192 Teukka

Qcumbers.

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:33:15am

re: #252 The Pie Overlord!

Here come the “Low IQ” attacks

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Has the orange one ever used “Low T” attacks?

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:33:33am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:37:17am

Imbecile

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Jay C  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:37:25am

re: #237 The Pie Overlord!

Is it raining on the golf course or something?

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I wonder if Trump really wants to open up that Ukraine can of worms? Yeah he can (and will) gibber away about “Corrupt Joe” and how “tough” he’s been, but once you get past The Orange Anus’s blathering denialism, what’s there? Rudy Giuliani’s OAN “investigations”, which set new standards for journalistic non-credibility?

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Teddy's Person  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:38:02am

re: #252 The Pie Overlord!

Here come the “Low IQ” attacks

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Thing is, screaming “white power” from a golf cart is not so silent.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:38:24am

re: #252 The Pie Overlord!

Here come the “Low IQ” attacks

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Low iq? That’s the best this lame ass has?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:39:45am
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sagehen  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:40:09am
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Jay C  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:40:09am

re: #260 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Low iq? That’s the best this lame ass has?

Worse, this is actually among the more-articulate of Trump’s inane insult-tweets….

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:40:17am

re: #254 Dr Lizardo

Q-Berts.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:40:18am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wexton here in Virginia too. Loving the DMV solidarity.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:41:28am

re: #263 Jay C

Worse, this is actually among the more-articulate of Trump’s inane insult-tweets….

Sad!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:43:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:46:54am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:48:14am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump to TMC. Hide the spike or you get no more money. Count on it!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:49:18am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:49:30am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:51:46am

re: #270 GlutenFreeJesus

I didn’t have that on my “2020 Apocalypse Bingo” card. Dammit.

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Teddy's Person  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:52:40am

re: #272 Dr Lizardo

I didn’t have that on my “2020 Apocalypse Bingo” card. Dammit.

We’re gonna need a bigger card.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:53:30am

re: #237 The Pie Overlord!

Narrator: “But nobody is denying it.”

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ckkatz  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:54:16am

re: #196 jeffreyw
I see a trend:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:54:21am

re: #272 Dr Lizardo

I didn’t have that on my “2020 Apocalypse Bingo” card. Dammit.

Amateur.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:56:58am

re: #264 Sherlock Hound

Q-Berts.

No. Q-bert is a great game. Don’t malign him.

QBert Levels 1-3

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2020 • 8:57:56am

heh

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:00:36am

Of course

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:01:04am
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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:01:36am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:01:46am

We don’t do this at the UU church. We also have a pool table rather than a shooting range. No wonder Evangelicals think we’re heathens.

Bad Church Singers Compilation

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:02:09am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:06:11am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

Buzz Aldrin is from New Jersey. Born in Glen Ridge, grew up in Montclair.

I’d rather much a school be named after him than Woodrow Wilson, TBH.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:07:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:08:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:10:13am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:12:03am

I have a serious answer. What they are trying to conserve is hereditary status and privilege, especially in the hinterland gentry. Generational decay is a major issue with that demographic. We all know the smart but crooked local boss whose children turned out to be drooling idiots. There are real reasons this happens, having mostly to do with poor reproductive choices and bad child rearing practices that result from deeply embedded cultural factors. They must have an extra advantage to avoid sinking back into poverty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:12:17am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:15:15am

re: #283 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:16:06am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:19:16am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sarcasm. It’s always sarcasm just like it’s sarcasm that Trump is tough on Russia.

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:19:59am

Mental floss:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:20:35am

Let Putin have them. Send the surplus FEMA trailers and confiscated RVs to Siberia so he will have enough “dachas” for all, rather than just the kingpins and propaganda shills who have served him so faithfully.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:20:57am

re: #291 Teukka

But I could actually see Trump doing something like that. He’d much rather attend one of his ego-stroking rallies than an actual presidential debate.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:21:28am

re: #294 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Let Putin have them. Send the surplus FEMA trailers and confiscated RVs to Siberia so he will have enough “dachas” for all, rather than just the kingpins and propaganda shills who have served him so faithfully.

I’m fine with them leaving. It’s not like they contribute anything to the country.

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Jay C  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:23:23am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

“It followed me home. Can we keep it????”

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:25:03am

New insult time, this for replacing stupidity:
“Room temperature IQ”.

More mental floss:

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:25:06am

re: #294 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That’s a legit question. They’re going to be angry; heaven only knows those folks lead lives filled to the brim with bitterness and resentment; Trump was their champion, the man who gave voice to their primitive rage and bigotry and racism. And when/if he’s defeated this November, they’re going to feel that somehow they’ve been cheated.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:29:05am

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

That’s a legit question. They’re going to be angry; heaven only knows those folks lead lives filled to the brim with bitterness and resentment; Trump was their champion, the man who gave voice to their primitive rage and bigotry and racism. And when/if he’s defeated this November, they’re going to feel that somehow they’ve been cheated.

Trump will insist that the election was manipulated/stolen/rigged, etc., and they will be holding BIDEN NOT MY PRESIDENT rallies from one end of the country to the other.

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makeitstop  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:31:53am

I don’t have to go to Florida to get my racism - Southside Hospital worker fired after Instagram messages

A nursing student was fired from her position at Southside Hospital in Bay Shore Thursday after writing messages on Instagram disparaging Black and Hispanic people.

In the messages, which were obtained by Patch, Emily Patysiak wrote to another employee that the patients at the hospital were all “gang members” who are “Black and Hispanic” and claims they are only treated for gunshot wounds or drinking.

“The fact that my f—-ing paycheck goes to these scums is disgusting,” Patysiak wrote in one message.

In another message, Patysiak admits to being a racist and claims she will “never marry or date anyone besides a white kid.” She also says all Hispanic people and Black people are “lazy” and “part of gangs.”

The messages were then shared publicly on Instagram. Patysiak’s Instagram account has since been deleted.

How fucking bone-stupid do you have to be to post that shit to Insta, and leave it public? Racists are pretty fucking dumb.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:32:19am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump will insist that the election was manipulated/stolen/rigged, etc., and they will be holding BIDEN NOT MY PRESIDENT rallies from one end of the country to the other.

Demographics are working against them as well. Their cohort is a continually shrinking group and I don’t doubt they’re feeling pressure there as well, even if they may not articulate it well.

They have no future - unless they’re willing to recognize the realities of 21st century American life….and that’s something that, so far at least, they stubbornly refuse to do.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:35:08am

re: #227 Belafon

Thinking about the election this November. Let’s say, hypothetically, that Buden wins Texas. This means he’s probably heading toward a victory only rivaled by Nixon’s reelection. But I can imagine Trump screaming about it being proof of electoral fraud. But the thing is, it’s Texas. All of the election shenanigans are going to be to benefit Republicans. There’s no way you could argue that somehow Democrats got away with something.

We want a landslide so that No one will take Trumps complaints about voter fraud seriously. The danger is a close electoral college result that gives the GOP the opportunity to try to steal the election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:35:11am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

Demographics are working against them as well. Their cohort is a continually shrinking group and I don’t doubt they’re feeling pressure there as well, even if they may not articulate it well.

They have no future - unless they’re willing to recognize the realities of 21st century American life….and that’s something that, so far at least, they stubbornly refuse to do.

GOP ids well aware of that fact and they know that they have to resort to even more dirty and desperate tricks than they used in 2016.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:35:49am

re: #303 NO SMOCKING GUN!

We want a landslide so that No one will take Trumps complaints about voter fraud seriously. The danger is a close electoral college result that gives the GOP the opportunity to try to steal the election.

No normal person, but that still means that 30% will, and they will continue to protest out loud.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:36:21am
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sagehen  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:36:34am

re: #282 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

We don’t do this at the UU church. We also have a pool table rather than a shooting range. No wonder Evangelicals think we’re heathens.

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Hey. If you wanted good music at your religious services, you’d have joined a black church. I’m not even a Christian, and I’ve gone to AME services. There’s always some little old lady in an excellent hat who wants to welcome me to worship, and she’s disappointed when I tell her I’m Jewish and only there for the choir.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:37:23am

re: #304 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GOP ids well aware of that fact and they know that they have to resort to even more dirty and desperate tricks than they used in 2016.

And if their magic bag of dirty tricks fails to work this November, I think they’re going to be spending their time in the political wilderness figuring out “What the fuck do we now?”

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sagehen  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:39:38am

re: #284 Dr Lizardo

Buzz Aldrin is from New Jersey. Born in Glen Ridge, grew up in Montclair.

I’d rather much a school be named after him than Woodrow Wilson, TBH.

My elementary school, junior high and high school were all named for geographic features. Two of them in Spanish.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:41:16am

re: #308 Dr Lizardo

And if their magic bag of dirty tricks fails to work this November, I think they’re going to be spending their time in the political wilderness figuring out “What the fuck do we now?”

They will be back soon enough, the economy is not going to recover for a long time, long enough for them to start blaming it on the Democrats…Don’t forget that Nixon resigned in 1974 and by 1980 they were back in the saddle again for twelve years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:42:00am

re: #284 Dr Lizardo

Buzz Aldrin is from New Jersey. Born in Glen Ridge, grew up in Montclair.

I’d rather much a school be named after him than Woodrow Wilson, TBH.

and fucking punches people who talk CT bullshit in his face…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:44:15am

re: #309 sagehen

My elementary school, junior high and high school were all named for geographic features. Two of them in Spanish.

When I was a kid growing up in South Pasadena, the elementary school I went was originally Lincoln Elementary - the name was changed to Arroyo Vista Elementary School back in (I think) 1978 or 1979.

I don’t know why the name was changed, to be honest. It was changed over the summer break….we came back in September and it was Arroyo Vista. No one kicked up a fuss about it or anything that I recall.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:44:43am

re: #294 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m for public shaming and outing and driving them back into their caves and under the rocks they slithered out from under. Let them lose their jobs and family connections. If they want a white America let them live in their isolated groups (there’s plenty of places in the south where you won’t see any people of color, mostly because those places are shitholes beyond the racism) where it’s easier to keep an eye on them. Make them own their shit. I’m sick of these fucking people breaking everything around them and blaming it on POC. Fuck their feelings.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:44:54am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No normal person, but that still means that 30% will, and they will continue to protest out loud.

Of course. What I don’t want is a serious play by the GOP to keep Trump in office.

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TarHellion  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:45:17am

re: #297 Jay C

Rocket has found the newest fledgling Avenger

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Interesting Times  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:46:18am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will be back soon enough, the economy is not going to recover for a long time, long enough for them to start blaming it on the Democrats…Don’t forget that Nixon resigned in 1974 and by 1980 they were back in the saddle again for twelve years.

This won’t happen if Democrats learn to promote their agenda with the same effectiveness and gut-punch framing that the Lincoln Project uses against trump. And the younger/newer crop of Democrats (AOC, Katie Porter, Ted Lieu, Brian Schatz) show how it can be done. If more Dems followed suit, it would be enough to overwhelm the built-in both-sides beltway media bias.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:47:36am

re: #314 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Of course. What I don’t want is a serious play by the GOP to keep Trump in office.

They are working on one as we type…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:47:38am

My elementary school was named after Neil Armstrong. When I was in third grade or so, a nearby opened school named for Buzz opened nearby and we had a rivalry. Buzz visited his namesake. Unfortunately Neil never did. He handled fame differently than Buzz did. My middle and high school are the same as my hometown who was named for a Navy hero whose daughter married President Arthur.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:49:04am

re: #297 Jay C

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“It followed me home. Can we keep it????”

“I followed him home. Can you keep me?”

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:49:59am

re: #297 Jay C

“It is said you provide food bowls.”

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Nojay UK  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:55:57am

re: #297 Jay C

“I washed it like you said. Now what do I do with it?”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:58:53am

re: #308 Dr Lizardo

And if their magic bag of dirty tricks fails to work this November, I think they’re going to be spending their time in the political wilderness figuring out “What the fuck do we now?”

Unfortunately, they will come roaring back in the 2022 midterms, because marginal voters have the memories of mayflies.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 9:59:04am
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Jay C  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:04:17am

re: #316 Interesting Times

This won’t happen if Democrats learn to promote their agenda with the same effectiveness and gut-punch framing that the Lincoln Project uses against trump. And the younger/newer crop of Democrats (AOC, Katie Porter, Ted Lieu, Brian Schatz) show how it can be done. If more Dems followed suit, it would be enough to overwhelm the built-in both-sides beltway media bias.

[Insert WAY TOO EARLY Disclaimer HERE]

Which is why I think the 2022 election* is going to be every bit as important as this year’s: hopefully the “1934” to FDR’s big win in 1932 - and, even more hopefully, by similar margins. A Democratic Administration and Congress are, I think, going to have just two years to establish themselves as a viable Government - in the face of what will undoubtedly be Republican obstructionism on steroids (worse, I imagine, than Obama’s first term, as the GOP didn’t have the Trump-stink clinging to them, and weren’t facing a possible electoral rebuke of epic proportions) - and of course, that insane media bias: with the MSM ready to run “How Biden Has Failed” thumbsuckers 24/7/365.

I think the way to do that is going to have to be two-fold: and in the old-fashioned way: 1) get a (D) Congress to enact popular legislation and sign it into law (and make sure the GOP gets raked for their obstruction); and 2) “clean up” the Federal Government after four years of Trumpian corruption and ineptitude. And make damn sure the Biden Admin and (D) Congress get the credit (and Trump/GOP the blame)

Oh, and 3) Bust ass to sweep the GOP out of the Senate in 2022.

* 22 or 24 GOP Senators up for reelection, vs. 12-13 Dems.

ETA: re: #322 NO SMOCKING GUN!. I disagree. In the normal course of politics, I think you’d be right: but I’m not sure “normal” is normal anymore. Hence my recommendations above.

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Interesting Times  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:04:30am

re: #322 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Unfortunately, they will come roaring back in the 2022 midterms, because marginal voters have the memories of mayflies.

As I said upthread, not inevitable if Dems as a whole learn effective framing and message discipline for a change. They were terrible during the Obama era, running away from him (instead of defending him) like a bunch of timid little milquetoasts. Low-info voters tend to respond favorably to “strong and wrong” vs “weak and right”, so just imagine what could be accomplished with “strong and right”.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:05:35am

“…Trump often did not appear in the Oval Office until 11:30 A.M. Typically, the first item on his schedule was the President’s Daily Brief, a top-secret summary of the nation’s most sensitive intelligence. “It was awful,” a former White House official told me. “He just rants and raves. It’s mostly about what was on Fox News. He really does believe that he knows more than the generals, more than the intelligence professionals.” Trump’s chief of staff, John Kelly, a retired Marine Corps general, who had replaced Priebus, limited the P.D.B. sessions to three a week, to avoid wasting time. If Trump seemed to be in an especially foul mood, Kelly would cancel that day’s briefing.”

This irresponsible piece of shit is not up to the job, and all his people know it.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:08:55am

re: #307 sagehen

Hey. If you wanted good music at your religious services, you’d have joined a black church. I’m not even a Christian, and I’ve gone to AME services. There’s always some little old lady in an excellent hat who wants to welcome me to worship, and she’s disappointed when I tell her I’m Jewish and only there for the choir.

Excellent Hat Lady: “So there’s hope, then.”

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Teukka  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:09:02am

re: #323 jaunte

[Embedded content]

They’re not even trying to hide it anymore, are they?

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:09:26am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:09:27am

re: #326 jaunte

Ladies and gentlemen, President Manbaby.

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Jay C  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:10:00am

re: #328 Teukka

They’re not even trying to hide it anymore, are they?

[Embedded content]

And S&H charges of $14.88 perhaps?

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A Mom Anon  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:13:29am

re: #301 makeitstop

They don’t think that many people will disagree with them. Even with all recent evidence to the contrary. And then, when it happens, many of them try to make it into money, via go fund me, or even getting the attention of conservative media. I think they honestly believe that because Trump made this all ok by design that it won’t come back and bite them. They aren’t the sharpest crayons in the box….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:15:30am

re: #331 Jay C

And S&H charges of $14.88 perhaps?

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nines09  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:16:40am

Went to Costco in Harrisburg Pa yesterday.
Needed/hoped to pick up steaks. Got them!
And they not only demand every person who enters wear a mask, but if you want to play stupid shithead and show up without one, THEY GIVE YOU A MASK.
I thanked every employee I came across.
Meanwhile up here in “I HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION AND CAN ONLY SCREAM!” its abject cowardice in every fucking store.
Sign says “must wear mask” fuck that shit, and no enforcement.
Corporate cowardice. Truly. Fuck these people.
But we knew that.

The Cooper after a morning workout.
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:20:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:23:26am

re: #335 jaunte

It’s now been almost 48 hours since we learned trump sold out our troops.

Not a *single one* of my gop colleagues has unequivocally condemned trump’s treachery so I’m calling out a search party. Tweet in the replies if you locate one principled republican.

Trump’s response has been to call it Fake News, which will give the GOP something to hide behind: “we have to look into the authenticity of these reports from the liberal, anti-Trump media…”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:23:57am
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A Mom Anon  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:29:20am

re: #334 nines09

I think I’m going to start calling corporate offices and bitching. Some companies like Walmart and Kroger have inconsistent rules and enforcement depending on where you are. Which is stupid because it confuses the public and enforces a lot of this dumbassery. I bet if you put a cop at the front door of most of these places a lot of bullshit would stop. Especially if there were fines, permabans and other measures taken. And even more important, companies backing the employees who are responsible for keeping the public safe.Public safety and health is way more important than Karen and Co and their precious feelings. Not enough of us are fighting back against this as it happens. And there’s a fear there that’s legit, there is a contingent of these people that won’t only spit or cough on you, there’s a real possibility of being shot or hurt. They can’t be allowed to bully everyone into submission, that’s a big part of why this mess has exploded.

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:31:24am
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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:39:45am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:42:25am

re: #337 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

[Embedded content]

According to several commenters, the male Klanster brought a big stick and started daring bystanders to come and take it. You can see him drop it as he flees for his life.

Personally, I had no idea that obese bigots could move so fast. Guess it depends on the motivation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:44:14am

It’s just a coincidence that his most enthusiastic supports keep saying the same shit

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jaunte  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:44:32am

re: #341 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I saw what looked like a steel baton thehomesecuritysuperstore.com dropped on the ground, too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:46:50am
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ericblair  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:52:18am

re: #341 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

According to several commenters, the male Klanster brought a big stick and started daring bystanders to come and take it. You can see him drop it as he flees for his life.

My understanding is that for most historic cases, “MOLON LABE COME AND TAKE IT” meant that the enemy looked at each other, shrugged, and came and took it.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:52:28am

re: #344 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Facebook’s lost quite a few major advertisers over the last few days. The heat’s building up on Zuck to do something beyond muttering platitudes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:58:03am

re: #341 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

According to several commenters, the male Klanster brought a big stick and started daring bystanders to come and take it. You can see him drop it as he flees for his life.

Personally, I had no idea that obese bigots could move so fast. Guess it depends on the motivation.

they make excellent sprinters, but they’re wasted on cross-country…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 28, 2020 • 10:58:56am

re: #342 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

White House spokesman Judd Deere said in a statement that Trump “did not hear the one statement made on the video. What he did see was tremendous enthusiasm from his many supporters.”

so he just posts things without being clear what message they are conveying?

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William Lewis  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:00:04am

re: #346 Dr Lizardo

Facebook’s lost quite a few major advertisers over the last few days. The heat’s building up on Zuck to do something beyond muttering platitudes.

Does he still hold a majority stake in the company?

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🌹UOJB!  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:10:13am

re: #349 William Lewis

Does he still hold a majority stake in the company?

Marky Mark still has a lot of Russian money invested in his propaganda machine.

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nines09  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:10:14am

re: #338 A Mom Anon

Do it. I call and a few days later I get someone saying “I see you filled out a survey….”
No.
Stay calm. Explain your concern. Ask why bad behavior is being allowed.
Then ask if you could shop with no shoes and shirt.
Of course not.
Then what do shoes and a shirt do to help knock down CV-19.
Yes.
Cowards.
And they will say “well if it’s medical” which is the dodge.
I can understand a manager who does not want his employees to confront these assholes.
BUT.
I’ve had people on the other end of the phone have no answers.
Cowardice.
If I get crazy enough maybe I try to enter a store with a mask and no shirt or shoes.
Wish I was younger.
Call. Call. Call. Call. Call.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:10:38am

re: #349 William Lewis

Does he still hold a majority stake in the company?

I honestly don’t know.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:12:44am

re: #252 The Pie Overlord!

Here come the “Low IQ” attacks

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silent and invisible majority

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:16:07am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:16:53am

Obviously Soros has been paying mercenary PR types to gin up anti-mask hysteria among GOP voters, so Texas will turn blue when there are no GOPers left.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:21:40am

re: #257 The Pie Overlord!

Imbecile

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that’s
not
how
any
of
this
works

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sagehen  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:34:21am

re: #334 nines09

Went to Costco in Harrisburg Pa yesterday.
Needed/hoped to pick up steaks. Got them!
And they not only demand every person who enters wear a mask, but if you want to play stupid shithead and show up without one, THEY GIVE YOU A MASK.
I thanked every employee I came across.

Costco v. Walmart
hbr.org

Though the businesses are direct competitors and quite similar overall, a remarkable disparity shows up in their wage and benefits structures. The average wage at Costco is $17 an hour. Wal-Mart does not break out the pay of its Sam’s Club workers, but a full-time worker at Wal-Mart makes $10.11 an hour on average, and a variety of sources suggest that Sam’s Club’s pay scale is similar to Wal-Mart’s. A 2005 New York Times article by Steven Greenhouse reported that at $17 an hour, Costco’s average pay is 72% higher than Sam’s Club’s ($9.86 an hour).

On the benefits side, 82% of Costco employees have health-insurance coverage, compared with less than half at Wal-Mart. And Costco workers pay just 8% of their health premiums, whereas Wal-Mart workers pay 33% of theirs. Ninety-one percent of Costco’s employees are covered by retirement plans, with the company contributing an annual average of $1,330 per employee, while 64 percent of employees at Sam’s Club are covered, with the company contributing an annual average of $747 per employee.

(the article this is quoting from is 2006.
Recent figures are that Costco pays an average wage of $21/hr, Walmart is $13)

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:34:57am

re: #348 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so he just posts things without being clear what message they are conveying?

+1

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:41:59am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will be back soon enough, the economy is not going to recover for a long time, long enough for them to start blaming it on the Democrats…Don’t forget that Nixon resigned in 1974 and by 1980 they were back in the saddle again for twelve years.

Part of this is due to the fact that Nixon was not prosecuted for his crimes. You let people get away with treason, it makes it much easier to get away with it over and over. The lesson here should be obvious to all lizards.

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CleverToad  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:46:38am

re: #357 sagehen

Costco v. Walmart
hbr.org

Though the businesses are direct competitors and quite similar overall, a remarkable disparity shows up in their wage and benefits structures. The average wage at Costco is $17 an hour. Wal-Mart does not break out the pay of its Sam’s Club workers, but a full-time worker at Wal-Mart makes $10.11 an hour on average, and a variety of sources suggest that Sam’s Club’s pay scale is similar to Wal-Mart’s. A 2005 New York Times article by Steven Greenhouse reported that at $17 an hour, Costco’s average pay is 72% higher than Sam’s Club’s ($9.86 an hour).

On the benefits side, 82% of Costco employees have health-insurance coverage, compared with less than half at Wal-Mart. And Costco workers pay just 8% of their health premiums, whereas Wal-Mart workers pay 33% of theirs. Ninety-one percent of Costco’s employees are covered by retirement plans, with the company contributing an annual average of $1,330 per employee, while 64 percent of employees at Sam’s Club are covered, with the company contributing an annual average of $747 per employee.

(the article this is quoting from is 2006.
Recent figures are that Costco pays an average wage of $21/hr, Walmart is $13)

Exactly why I dropped Sam’s Club, stopped going to Wal-Mart, and got my Costco membership a long time ago. The Wall Street types were dissing Costco for their foolish strategy of actually treating their retail employees as essential and valued colleagues instead of replaceable widgets. Such an un-American business practice!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 28, 2020 • 11:54:30am

re: #298 Teukka

Which is an even worse insult in Celsius-using countries.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:55:42am

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