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retired cynic  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:14:30am

GOTV!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:15:46am

America has always placed Property Rights above almost all other human rights, and evicting economic victims of COVID is fully in keeping with that tradition.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:16:50am

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America has always placed Property Rights above almost all other human rights, and evicting economic victims of COVID is fully in keeping with that tradition.

Yep, sad but true. And this is going to be the next big crisis, too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:17:52am

I love how team Trump is going with the excuse that “The President wasn’t briefed on that” with regards to the Russia bounties while apparently not understanding that it’s still a BIG FUCKING DEAL if the President WAS NOT BRIEFED on extremely vital intelligence like that.

It’s always amateur hour with these wannabes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:18:11am

People do not die of poverty, they die of lack of proper nutrition, shelter and medical care.

Because America does not believe that poor people deserve access to such things - because they are poor

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:18:21am

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America has always placed Property Rights above almost all other human rights, and evicting economic victims of COVID is fully in keeping with that tradition.

Indeed. Voting used to be limited to landowners only.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:18:49am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

I love how team Trump is going with the excuse that “The President wasn’t briefed on that” with regards to the Russia bounties while apparently not understanding that it’s still a BIG FUCKING DEAL if the President WAS NOT BRIEFED on extremely vital intelligence like that.

It’s always amateur hour with these wannabes.

Remember how GHW Bush “slept” through the Iran-Contra briefing?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:19:27am

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Indeed. Voting used to be limited to landowners only.

and people-owners…

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Sherlock Hound  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:22:36am

From downstairs:
re: #339 John Hughes

First they came for r/QAnon, and everybody pointed and laughed.

Then they came for r/TheDonald and everybody said, “about bloody time”.

And /r/chapotraphouse was banned and everyone said “No fucks to give about them, pal!”
{That subreddit was banned, too…)

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:22:48am

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Indeed. Voting used to be limited to landowners only.

Specifically, white, land-owning men.

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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:28:54am

F to the T, the GOP, and the mendacious media™.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:32:05am

Future headline:
“Colts crush Cowboys 112-0 in Super Bowl CCCXXI! ‘Beat ‘em like a Trump!’ exults coach.”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:32:42am

Gets worse

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:34:21am

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Indeed. Voting used to be limited to landowners only.

And amazingly, even in the 21st Century, I’ve seen some “conservative intellectuals” argue that we ought to reinstate some version of that rule for the “good of the country”.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:35:58am

re: #14 Jay C

And amazingly, even in the 21st Century, I’ve seen some “conservative intellectuals” argue that we ought to reinstate some version of that rule for the “good of the country”.

Conservatives would prefer the vote to be restricted to white males to guarantee Republican rule forever.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:36:29am

re: #13 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Gets worse

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That’s 7.5 Benghazis!

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Teddy's Person  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:37:49am

The saga of the frightened Gilded Age couple continues

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:38:52am

re: #15 Hecuba’s daughter

Conservatives would prefer the vote to be restricted to white males to guarantee Republican rule forever.

Ideally, back to “Constitutional originalism” and make it “White male Christian property-owners”; and figure out some way to work “heterosexual” in there as well.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:42:34am

re: #18 Jay C

Ideally, back to “Constitutional originalism” and make it “White male Christian property-owners”; and figure out some way to work “heterosexual” in there as well.

“White Male Christian” implies married to a white woman, or at least owning a black one.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:43:38am

re: #13 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

If Trump wasn’t told this (which I highly doubt) there’s two possibilities - either the intel community doesn’t trust him enough to share that kind of info with him for fear he’ll go blabbing to Putin about it. Or they did in fact tell him, and Trump was too busy rage-Tweeting on his iPhone or was bored by at all and completely forgot they told him.

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William Lewis  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:45:37am

re: #20 Dr Lizardo

If Trump wasn’t told this (which I highly doubt) there’s two possibilities - either the intel community doesn’t trust him enough to share that kind of info with him for fear he’ll go blabbing to Putin about it. Or they did in fact tell him, and Trump was too busy rage-Tweeting on his iPhone or was bored by at all and completely forgot they told him.

Or his boss Putin had already told him to ignore it.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:45:39am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:45:44am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:46:20am

re: #21 William Lewis

Or his boss Putin had already told him to ignore it.

That’s a possibility as well.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:48:05am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:48:42am
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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:49:09am

re: #25 DodgerFan1988

Those protests must have been huge. Dan should listen to his constituents.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:49:51am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:50:24am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

I love how team Trump is going with the excuse that “The President wasn’t briefed on that” with regards to the Russia bounties while apparently not understanding that it’s still a BIG FUCKING DEAL if the President WAS NOT BRIEFED on extremely vital intelligence like that.

It’s always amateur hour with these wannabes.

incompetence or treason
there is no third way

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:50:38am

re: #27 jaunte

Those protests must have been huge. Dan should listen to his constituents.

Exactly. “So, Dan, if you take care of the issues of racism in this country, our problems with the virus will go away?”

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:50:43am

We are so screwed

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:52:09am

re: #31 b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)

We are so screwed

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Keep wearing your mask, and stay away from these people. All it will take is one sick person getting in the group.

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:52:31am

re: #20 Dr Lizardo

If Trump wasn’t told this (which I highly doubt) there’s two possibilities - either the intel community doesn’t trust him enough to share that kind of info with him for fear he’ll go blabbing to Putin about it. Or they did in fact tell him, and Trump was too busy rage-Tweeting on his iPhone or was bored by at all and completely forgot they told him.

I’d vote for option 2: there’s enough evidence* that the “bounty” intel was passed up the chain-of-command to a high-enough level that the WH -someone in the Executive Office, anyway - had to know about it: and either didn’t inform the President (sadly, all-too-likely given the Orange Anus’s dislike of “bad news”); or else Trump WAS informed: either way they’re looking like idiots. And that’s the benign interpretation.

*maybe not “evidence” to the stand-up-in-Federal-Court level; but given the choice of:
A) Intelligence professionals, or
B) The Trump White House
I know who I’d believe….

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:53:51am

re: #33 Jay C

I’d vote for option 2: there’s enough evidence* that the “bounty” intel was passed up the chain-of-command to a high-enough level that the WH -someone in the Executive Office, anyway - had to know about it: and either didn’t inform the President (sadly, all-too-likely given the Orange Anus’s dislike of “bad news”); or else Trump WAS informed: either way they’re looking like idiots. And that’s the benign interpretation.

*maybe not “evidence” to the stand-up-in-Federal-Court level; but given the choice of:
A) Intelligence professionals, or
B) The Trump White House
I know who I’d believe….

If it comparable in quality to the evidence that Obama used to go after bin Laden, then it’s pretty good evidence.

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Citizen K  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:54:15am

re: #17 Teddy’s Person

The saga of the frightened Gilded Age couple continues

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The amount of people responding that the protestors were ‘trespassing’ and therefore deserved to get shot up like the savage antifa deathmob they were is just….good goddamn.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:55:04am

re: #25 DodgerFan1988

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you’re gonna have to prove this scientifically, or else its bafflegab

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 11:59:58am

re: #33 Jay C

I’d vote for option 2: there’s enough evidence* that the “bounty” intel was passed up the chain-of-command to a high-enough level that the WH -someone in the Executive Office, anyway - had to know about it: and either didn’t inform the President (sadly, all-too-likely given the Orange Anus’s dislike of “bad news”); or else Trump WAS informed: either way they’re looking like idiots. And that’s the benign interpretation.

*maybe not “evidence” to the stand-up-in-Federal-Court level; but given the choice of:
A) Intelligence professionals, or
B) The Trump White House
I know who I’d believe….

offs (not you)
sure some things dont rise to the level of ‘bother the president (yet)”
but there is no set of ‘rules’

the pdb and other briefings often contain unverified, sketchy, and otherwise as yet unconfirmed speculation/guesses/hunches/possibilities.

they’re not only about what is known.
they’re about what we think, guess, surmise, predict, etc

remember when ‘chatter’ used to be enough?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:01:38pm

I wonder if HRC was POTUS right now, would Justice Roberts be acting like a “swing vote”? Interesting notion….

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Citizen K  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:02:01pm

That’s my guv right there.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:07:08pm

re: #39 Citizen K

Which state?

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:08:19pm

re: #38 Dr. Matt

I wonder if HRC was POTUS right now, would Justice Roberts be acting like a “swing vote”? Interesting notion….

If HRC were POTUS, Kennedy would still be on the court and Gorsuch wouldn’t. So there would be 5 liberals vs 4 conservatives, with Roberts still the Chief Justice. No swing vote would be needed.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:08:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:08:39pm
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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:10:51pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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Did someone edit the picture so that he wouldn’t be pointing the gun at her?

Also, I’ve never fired an AR, but isn’t that tucking it under the arm going to cause problems with control?

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:11:39pm

re: #42 Patricia Kayden

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For this 4th of July, they’re conference calling.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:11:53pm

re: #40 Belafon

New Jersey, If I’m not mistaken.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:12:11pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Matt Gaetz sounds exactly like my Trumpster brother who believes anarchy would reign on the streets if Biden is elected. They get all their talking points from the same source — sheeple every one. And they really believe this — that and that Biden has dementia.

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DesertDenizen  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:12:51pm

re: #44 Belafon

Did someone edit the picture so that he wouldn’t be pointing the gun at her?

Also, I’ve never fired an AR, but isn’t that tucking it under the arm going to cause problems with control?

Recoil is pretty low, but aim will be for shit, just like hers using the second finger section instead of the tip. Neither of these two yahoos know anything about firearm safety or usage.

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sagehen  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:13:06pm

re: #38 Dr. Matt

I wonder if HRC was POTUS right now, would Justice Roberts be acting like a “swing vote”? Interesting notion….

If HRC was president, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh wouldn’t be on the court. So no, Roberts wouldn’t be a swing vote.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:13:10pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Every time I see this photo I think “learn how to hold a gun, lady!”

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Thanos  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:13:11pm

re: #1 retired cynic

GOTV!

Certainly the best available way to FUCK TRUMP.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:14:05pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

Biden has dementia and Trump has what then? Trump can’t even read intelligently from a dang teleprompter.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:14:46pm

She seems nice.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:15:22pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

Matt Gaetz sounds exactly like my Trumpster brother who believes anarchy would reign on the streets if Biden is elected. They get all their talking points from the same source — sheeple every one. And they really believe this — that and that Biden has dementia.

So the people currently holding the guns in Trump’s America are going to be the futuristic people holding guns in Biden’s America?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:16:47pm

The good idea fairy has been busy

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William Lewis  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:16:55pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

If those two idiots had faced a real threat, they’d both be dead. Incompetent morons - IOW perfect MAGAts.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:17:58pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

Matt Gaetz sounds exactly like my Trumpster brother who believes anarchy would reign on the streets if Biden is elected. They get all their talking points from the same source — sheeple every one. And they really believe this — that and that Biden has dementia.

This may be the 1st instance of a Republican coming to the defense of a trial lawyer.

//

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:18:39pm

Finally.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:18:51pm

If you’re wondering about Puerto Rico’s wanting statehood:

threadreaderapp.com

U.S. progressive friends, that tweet you’re sending on Puerto Rico is well intentioned. But you’re hurting progressives on the island. A thread 🧵
There’s an entire ecosystem of Puerto Rican grassroots organizations, academics, workers, writers, artists, etc. who have grappled with equity, social justice, undoing racism, and the island’s relationship with the U.S. for a long time.
You stepping into this moment demanding “now do Puerto Rico” statehood is not helpful. It reinforces an imperial mindset — deciding for us — and it erases the work, struggle and thought leadership of an entire people.
An estimated 46 percent of Puerto Ricans support statehood, as is their right. But most others do not. Moreover, the power structures in PR pushing statehood are analogous to the right wing in the U.S.

This is just one snapshot of one event this week; we won’t cover the richness of Puerto Rican struggle and resistance over Twitter.
But it’s important to know that the statehood movement tends to be conservative when it comes to LGBTQ rights, women’s equality, the rights of immigrants, energy, and education. Their leaders certainly are.
I don’t fault any Puerto Rican for supporting statehood. I get it. Point is, 1) *they* should get to decide and 2) Their party and movement are unacceptably conservative; they put women, the LGBTQ community, POC in danger.
If you’re a progressive in the U.S., before throwing your support to statehood for Puerto Rico, you need to think about the dynamics and values behind the statehood power structure, and the fact that your support helps them push right-wing ideologies.
Blindly supporting statehood positions you in opposition to local resistance. You should also think carefully before deciding on political status on behalf of Puerto Ricans. (Don’t do it.)

More here: dailykos.com.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:22:32pm

re: #33 Jay C

I’d vote for option 2: there’s enough evidence* that the “bounty” intel was passed up the chain-of-command to a high-enough level that the WH -someone in the Executive Office, anyway - had to know about it: and either didn’t inform the President (sadly, all-too-likely given the Orange Anus’s dislike of “bad news”); or else Trump WAS informed: either way they’re looking like idiots. And that’s the benign interpretation.

*maybe not “evidence” to the stand-up-in-Federal-Court level; but given the choice of:
A) Intelligence professionals, or
B) The Trump White House
I know who I’d believe….

Same here. I just pretty much figure that anything Trump says is a lie by default until proven otherwise.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:23:20pm

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

Biden has dementia and Trump has what then? Trump can’t even read intelligently from a dang teleprompter.

Non dementia possibilities: dyslexia? too vain to wear glasses?

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A Mom Anon  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:23:24pm

Sigh. I went to Kroger a little while ago for my once every 10 days shopping extravaganza. Only maybe 10 percent of people had masks, the employees were all in compliance.

While I was in the produce dept, I met my first Karen. Little blonde with very short shorts and a ponytail, no mask. No cart either. I wear a mask and so was another lady shopping. Karen kept leaning in front of one or the other of us reaching for things and putting them back with a little fake smile. I just worked around her, I have no desire to go to jail and become an internet sensation for such a stupid bitch. I seriously hate these fucking people and I would have beat her into a coma til someone pulled me off of her. I’m fully finished with these fucking assholes. Karen was trying to start shit, when I was coming down an aisle she was in she was doing the same shit to other shoppers in masks. She was there to start shit. It’s pretty obvious, so I guess this is a new wingnut game. Did I mention how much I hate these people?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:24:13pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:24:48pm
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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:26:22pm

re: #40 Belafon

Which state?

New Jersey.

And it’s entirely warranted. I’ve seen outdoor dining where the restaurants are doing the right thing, and seen others where they didn’t put the tables/seats 6 feet apart. Zero separation. Indoors is a crapshoot, and then bar service means even less social distancing and safe masking.

He’s trying to prevent backsliding; but I fear that we’ll be overwhelmed and back to square 1 by the fall thanks to Trumpists who think wearing a mask is a political statement.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:27:17pm
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William Lewis  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:27:41pm

re: #58 Patricia Kayden

Finally.

Now if they’d just clean up Prager and the quacks and the anti-vaxxers…

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Dread Pirate  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:28:53pm
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Thanos  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:29:15pm

re: #17 Teddy’s Person

The saga of the frightened Gilded Age couple continues

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That bastion of privilege is 20 minutes from Ferguson, where the first large scale demonstrations for BLM started after the murder of Michael Brown.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:29:32pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:33:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:33:07pm
This is NOT how it works. Intelligence is rarely “verified,” and this is just another canard to protect Trump.

To be fair, this may very well be how it works now with that asshole toddler in the Oval Office.

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Dread Pirate  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:33:59pm
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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:33:59pm

re: #69 Thanos

They don’t know their history.

The Bastille was a prison - complete with armed guards. How’d that work out?

And what happened to the French monarchy (you know, they had guns too). They lost.

Having guns doesn’t guarantee safety or winning.

But the key question is why they weren’t charged with menacing for waving guns at peaceful protesters? Wait, we know why. It’s mighty white of ‘em.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:34:28pm

re: #66 Dread Pirate

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That sounds like what I said.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:35:30pm

re: #74 lawhawk

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They don’t know their history.

The Bastille was a prison - complete with armed guards. How’d that work out?

And what happened to the French monarchy (you know, they had guns too). They lost.

Having guns doesn’t guarantee safety or winning.

But the key question is why they weren’t charged with menacing for waving guns at peaceful protesters? Wait, we know why. It’s mighty white of ‘em.

It’s actually a pretty apt comparison, but not the way he thinks it is.

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DesertDenizen  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:35:56pm

re: #62 A Mom Anon

Sigh. I went to Kroger a little while ago for my once every 10 days shopping extravaganza. Only maybe 10 percent of people had masks, the employees were all in compliance.

While I was in the produce dept, I met my first Karen. Little blonde with very short shorts and a ponytail, no mask. No cart either. I wear a mask and so was another lady shopping. Karen kept leaning in front of one or the other of us reaching for things and putting them back with a little fake smile. I just worked around her, I have no desire to go to jail and become an internet sensation for such a stupid bitch. I seriously hate these fucking people and I would have beat her into a coma til someone pulled me off of her. I’m fully finished with these fucking assholes. Karen was trying to start shit, when I was coming down an aisle she was in she was doing the same shit to other shoppers in masks. She was there to start shit. It’s pretty obvious, so I guess this is a new wingnut game. Did I mention how much I hate these people?

Before masks became required locally I ran into one of these. She wore a shirt reading “My rights don’t end where your fear begins”, and was giving the hairy eyeball to everyone in a mask. We all just ignored her. I figured saying anything would cause her to whip out the .380 hidden under the shirt and start blasting, this being rural Arizona and all.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:35:59pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

To be fair, this may very well be how it works now with that asshole toddler in the Oval Office.

Trump was supposed to get this verified (doesn’t seem like he even bothered) before acting on it but Obama was supposed to already have rescue planes just circling over BENGHAZI!! in case something bad might have happened?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:36:09pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:37:29pm
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ckkatz  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:37:59pm

re: #70 Patricia Kayden

Good to hear that this is finally resurfacing.

Death of Natasha McKenna
en.wikipedia.org

washingtonpost.com
(From April 13, 2015)

The Sheriff’s Emergency Response Team regularly records their operations, and the Fairfax County police have said there is video of the “extraction” of McKenna. This presumably would include her being hit with four Taser shocks after she was handcuffed behind her back, shackled around the legs, a hobble strap connected to both restraints, and a spit mask placed over her face. The police, who are investigating the case for any possible criminal violation, have declined to release the video while the case is still under investigation. When it does come out, it may well join the growing canon of video of fatal law enforcement actions which has shocked the country.

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:38:35pm

re: #36 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

you’re gonna have to prove this scientifically, or else its bafflegab

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The third tweet in that thread pretty much disproves Crenshaw’s bullshit.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:40:48pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:43:05pm
Twitch has temporarily suspended Donald Trump’s account. The company says the channel’s broadcast of the President’s Tulsa Rally and recent re-airing of one of his 2016 campaign stops violated its hateful conduct and harassment policies. The comments Twitch took issue with feature the President making negative comments about Mexican migrants.

“Hey, it’s 1:00 o’clock in the morning and a very tough, I’ve used the word on occasion, hombre, a very tough hombre is breaking into the window of a young woman whose husband is away as a traveling salesman or whatever he may do,” Trump says in one of the videos flagged by Twitch.

In a statement to Engadget, the company said, “Hateful conduct is not allowed on Twitch. In line with our policies, President Trump’s channel has been issued a temporary suspension from Twitch for comments made on stream.”

engadget.com

Come on, Twitter. Do it. DO IT!

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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:44:28pm

re: #71 Dave In Austin

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:46:01pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:49:30pm

If Twitter banned Trump he’d schedule a primetime national address to bitch about it.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:49:36pm

re: #41 Hecuba’s daughter

If HRC were POTUS, Kennedy would still be on the court and Gorsuch wouldn’t. So there would be 5 liberals vs 4 conservatives, with Roberts still the Chief Justice. No swing vote would be needed.

Doh. Yeah. Forgot about the most important part…..

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:51:07pm

re: #62 A Mom Anon

Sigh. I went to Kroger a little while ago for my once every 10 days shopping extravaganza. Only maybe 10 percent of people had masks, the employees were all in compliance.

While I was in the produce dept, I met my first Karen. Little blonde with very short shorts and a ponytail, no mask. No cart either. I wear a mask and so was another lady shopping. Karen kept leaning in front of one or the other of us reaching for things and putting them back with a little fake smile. I just worked around her, I have no desire to go to jail and become an internet sensation for such a stupid bitch. I seriously hate these fucking people and I would have beat her into a coma til someone pulled me off of her. I’m fully finished with these fucking assholes. Karen was trying to start shit, when I was coming down an aisle she was in she was doing the same shit to other shoppers in masks. She was there to start shit. It’s pretty obvious, so I guess this is a new wingnut game. Did I mention how much I hate these people?

I haven’t encountered any Karens yet—just oblivious un-masked assholes. The post office was a dream today, everyone in masks, plenty of distancing, plastic sheeting over the whole counter area. Five minutes in and out.

I was then headed to Publix. Parking lot was packed. Sat in my car to observe for a few and was not thrilled with the view, so went to Fresh Market instead. Spent more money; bought fewer items, but everyone was wearing masks and distancing, so I guess it was worth it.

Drove home on the beach road. Hotels are already packed (remember, my mayor thinks it’s unfair that people are reporting that they got sick after coming to the beach and said, “We need our visitors, we love them.”)

Nope—not going out among them anytime in the near future.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:51:22pm

If I were in Jack’s shoes I’d turn him off for 2 weeks just because I could.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:51:31pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

In Joe Biden’s America your job is illegal, you are locked in your home, borders don’t exist, MS-13 lives next door and the police aren’t coming when the mob arrives.

This is all of us. pic.twitter.com

— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) June 29, 2020

When the “mob arrives” I’ll invite them in for some whiskey and a bite to eat….because I’m not afraid of Teh Blacks.

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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:51:33pm

re: #88 Dr. Matt

Scalia would have been replaced by a liberal justice; 6-3.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:51:35pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:52:10pm

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

If Twitter banned Trump he’d schedule a primetime national address to bitch about it.

Hell, he’d probably try to order a nuclear strike on Twitter HQ.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:52:18pm

re: #92 lawhawk

Scalia would have been replaced by a liberal justice; 6-3.

But, HRC had an email server at home……

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:53:28pm

re: #5 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They believe that the poor are sinners.

If the poor just believed in America, and acted according to the faith, they would not be poor.

Helping the poor is helping people to sin.

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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:53:29pm

re: #95 Dr. Matt

But, HRC had an email server at home……

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And Ivanka and Jared have repeatedly used a private server to conduct official govt business (and justified it as claiming to do backchannel govt work). Never mind that after Clinton left office, the rules changed to make doing so improper -

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Dr. Matt  Jun 29, 2020 • 12:53:47pm

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

If Twitter banned Trump he’d schedule a primetime national address to bitch about it.

If Trump was named Bobby Joe Smith Jr from Bumpfucks, Arkansas, he would have been banned years ago.

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Momkat56  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:00:23pm

After speaking with my sister last night, I’m inclined to hunker down more than ever. She’s a pulmonologist in Memphis so I think I’ll take her word over most anyone’s on the subject of a lung-destroying agent of chaos. She says every day she goes to work it gets worse, and is hitting the Hispanic population particularly hard there and in north Mississippi. Her direct text quote was “It is worse than ever folks. Lay low, stay out of traffic. Stupid activities.” We wear masks like our lives depend on them, every single time we leave our house. Unfortunately, too many people here in West Alabama don’t.

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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:00:49pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:01:01pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:01:55pm

When was Trump briefed about Russia placing a bounty on US troops? More specifically, when in March was he briefed (his laughable denials notwithstanding)?

President Donald Trump engaged in an unprecedented - and previously unknown - “flurry of communication” with Russian President Vladimir Putin during a three-week period earlier this year, according to a sister-network of Voice of America.

On March 30, Russian leader Vladimir Putin and U.S. President Donald Trump spoke by telephone, the first of five calls between the two over a period of three weeks, a flurry of communication unprecedented during Trump’s 3 1/2 years in office,

Only one of those five calls, according to research from NCRM, was shared with the press. None were posted to the White House website, a serious deviation from prior practice.

“For many Russia watchers, the flurry of behind-the-scenes phone calls and other communications is a clear indication that something’s going on,” RFERL’s Mike Eckel adds. He notes, “the two countries’ diplomats have spoken at least three times over that same period, which also coincided with an unusual shipment of Russian coronavirus-related humanitarian aid to the United States.”

rawstory.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:03:39pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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“as if it were a source of contamination or disease…”

umm, it is, thus the masks are needed

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:06:43pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:06:56pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

Matt Gaetz sounds exactly like my Trumpster brother who believes anarchy would reign on the streets if Biden is elected. They get all their talking points from the same source — sheeple every one. And they really believe this — that and that Biden has dementia.

gaetz is talking out of his ass

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makeitstop  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:16:28pm
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makeitstop  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:17:56pm

Speaking of evictions - New York does the right thing.

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ckkatz  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:18:08pm

Speaking of the Bastille, and as we approach July 14th…

When the Bastille was stormed on July 14, 1789, the Revolutionaries were probably more interested in capturing 250 barrels of gunpowder stored there and giving the French King a big middle finger.

Nerd details -

1. The Bastille was probably stormed by around 1000 people, of whom over 100 were killed in the process.

2. The attack was not effective until mutinous units of the regular Army arrived with artillery.

3. The garrison was largely of infirm soldiers who could no longer serve in the field. Most were not wearing their uniform coats. The crowd apparently thought that they were prisoners rather than guards. The mutinous soldiers recognized the guards and quickly got them away from the mob. The commandant was not as fortunate.

4. The Bastille at the time was largely used for upper class and political prisoners. And as such, was relatively comfy. You could bring servants and even your whole family, if desired.

These prisoners were mainly from the upper classes, and those who could afford to pay for additional luxuries lived in good conditions, wearing their own clothes, living in rooms decorated with tapestries and carpets or taking exercise around the castle garden and along the walls.

5. There were only 7 prisoners there at the time:

At this point, the Bastille was nearly empty, housing only seven prisoners: four forgers; James F.X. Whyte, a “lunatic” imprisoned at the request of his family; Auguste-Claude Tavernier, who had tried to assassinate Louis XV thirty years before; and one “deviant” aristocrat, the Comte de Solages, imprisoned by his father using a lettre de cachet (while the Marquis de Sade had been transferred out ten days earlier).

Storming of the Bastille
en.wikipedia.org

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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:18:44pm

Because of course.

We’re beyond incompetent in handling the current pandemic, all while the next pandemic is waiting in the wings.

Mind you, the solution is the same for both - social distancing, masking, washing hands, sanitizing surfaces, etc.

But the Trumpists have made all those efforts a political statement by refusing to follow the health experts and have endangered themselves, their communities, the nation, and the world.

Dumbasses. They’re fucking dumbasses, and they will kill countless numbers of Americans without ever admitting they fucked things up so badly.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:19:02pm

re: #106 makeitstop

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But then Trump could get in trouble for doing something. Or he might be held accountable for not doing something. It’s so much better that he claims to not actually be doing the job of president. //

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:21:16pm

re: #109 lawhawk

Not now, 2020.

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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:22:34pm

re: #104 b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)

Damnit Janet, I told you I wanted Imo’s Pizza. But you didn’t listen.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:24:34pm

Womp womp.

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sagehen  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:24:34pm

re: #47 Hecuba’s daughter

Matt Gaetz sounds exactly like my Trumpster brother who believes anarchy would reign on the streets if Biden is elected. They get all their talking points from the same source — sheeple every one. And they really believe this — that and that Biden has dementia.

My sister is just as bad. She’s convinced Antifa is a bigger threat than white supremacists or boogaloos (even though WS and boogaloos have killed hundreds over the last 10 years, including the streetcar murderer convicted and sentenced in her own town just last week, and Antifa hasn’t killed anybody. Not even one).

She’s apparently a huge fan of Andy Ngo, excitedly looking forward to his congressional testimony, and worried that Portland is becoming uninhabitable because the progressives have been too lenient. She’s thinking of moving to Texas, or maybe Idaho.

She says she can’t take my views seriously about anything political, “because you’re just so brainwashed by ‘orange man bad’ media coverage”.

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NetworkKed  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:24:50pm

I just had a wonderful thought - a fantasy that’s almost a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Twitter has declared that they feel obligated to allow the account belonging to the President to say whatever it wants. And while that’s awful, I can see the argument for it. Better to know.

But the day Biden becomes Prez, that immunity runs out. I bet Trump gets in trouble within 10 days, and is banned inside a month.

He can’t help himself. And he won’t have a whole institution trying to make him look good anymore.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:26:00pm

re: #115 NetworkKed

I just had a wonderful thought - a fantasy that’s almost a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Twitter has declared that they feel obligated to allow the account belonging to the President to say whatever it wants. And while that’s awful, I can see the argument for it. Better to know.

But the day Biden becomes Prez, that immunity runs out. I bet Trump gets in trouble within 10 days, and is banned inside a month.

He can’t help himself. And he won’t have a whole institution trying to make him look good anymore.

I’m imagining Trump trying to create sock puppet accounts.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:29:04pm

re: #114 sagehen

I’ll trade with her. Does she have a nice house? I do, I’m in Georgia, she’ll fit right in here.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:30:43pm
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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:31:40pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:33:23pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:35:40pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:37:23pm
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Dread Pirate  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:39:23pm
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sagehen  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:39:30pm

re: #117 A Mom Anon

I’ll trade with her. Does she have a nice house? I do, I’m in Georgia, she’ll fit right in here.

She has a lovely home. But she’d definitely want to live in a place with several synagogues to chose from. It’s not enough to be able to join a nice congregation, there also has to be “the one I don’t go to”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:41:34pm

re: #122 gocart mozart

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I would have offered cool drinks along with cookies

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:41:50pm

You know the shit’s getting deep when @darth goes political.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:43:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:44:47pm

this is pathetic.

also…not true.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:45:11pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:46:35pm

[Don Lafontaine]In a world where everything has gone straight to hell….and back![/Don Lafontaine]

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:47:13pm

re: #93 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Not if the protesters were Black.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:47:15pm

re: #127 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

LOL imagine seeing that giant golden-crowned flying fox hanging from the rafters near your front door in the morning.

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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:47:20pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

There’s no investigation by Trump’s people into the story. They’re flailing about with the fact that they knew the bounties existed, and not only did nothing, but Trump continued to back Putin regardless of the circumstances.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:48:03pm

re: #127 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Remember when people threw a fit because they engineered a pterasaur in Jurassic World with a dinosaur head? They probably did exist.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:49:23pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:50:49pm

re: #134 Belafon

Remember when people threw a fit because they engineered a pterasaur in Jurassic World with a dinosaur head? They probably did exist.

Who needs bio-engineering?

This big bad boy would probably send most people away screaming….

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:53:05pm

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KGxvi  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:53:21pm

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America has always placed Property Rights above almost all other human rights, and evicting economic victims of COVID is fully in keeping with that tradition.

The problem is, it’s a potential crisis up and down the chain. Most landlords (big and small) aren’t in a position to just waive rent - they have mortgages to pay, payroll to keep/property managers to pay; or it may be a main source of income (particularly in retirement for smaller landlords). Tenants stop paying rent, landlords either have to lay off employees or default on their mortgages; that sets up another mortgage crisis as it will fuck with the banks’ liquidity requirements.

It’s a basic economics problem - whatever the system - they are all designed to keep running, like an old clock. When one cog in the system comes loose, it fucks with the entire system. And there really isn’t an easy way to fix it (there are some simple ways, perhaps, but they are not easy).

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:54:21pm

re: #127 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Dread Pirate  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:55:06pm
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Jay C  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:55:26pm

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

Who needs bio-engineering?

This big bad boy would probably send most people away screaming….

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Though apparently, if raised near/with humans, flying foxes can be friendly: I recall seeing a clip of one nudging a human for treats: and getting scritichies under its little bat chin as well.

Though seriously, I can’t see denying something like that its scritichies: not right away, anyway…

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:56:42pm

re: #138 KGxvi

The problem is, it’s a potential crisis up and down the chain. Most landlords (big and small) aren’t in a position to just waive rent - they have mortgages to pay, payroll to keep/property managers to pay; or it may be a main source of income (particularly in retirement for smaller landlords). Tenants stop paying rent, landlords either have to lay off employees or default on their mortgages; that sets up another mortgage crisis as it will fuck with the banks’ liquidity requirements.

It’s a basic economics problem - whatever the system - they are all designed to keep running, like an old clock. When one cog in the system comes loose, it fucks with the entire system. And there really isn’t an easy way to fix it (there are some simple ways, perhaps, but they are not easy).

The simplest way would be for the government to assume some amount of the lower level rent to be paid up the chain. Probably not all, but a good chunk. Then tax the wealthy to pay for it because otherwise it’s just moving more money to the rich.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2020 • 1:57:53pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:00:11pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:01:08pm

re: #141 Jay C

Though apparently, if raised near/with humans, flying foxes can be friendly: I recall seeing a clip of one nudging a human for treats: and getting scritichies under its little bat chin as well.

Though seriously, I can’t see denying something like that its scritichies: not right away, anyway…

Bats don’t bother me, even a big chonk like that. But my ex-wife? Even tiny bats would have her running away screaming and hiding under the bedcovers. One time, a small bat flew in through our balcony door and honestly, I didn’t know my ex could move that fast. She locked herself in the bathroom, yelling at me to “do something!!” about it.

So, I opened the window and closed the door to the living room behind me and it flew out on its own in a few minutes. Problem solved.

And on that note, time to call it a day. Have a good one Lizards and stay healthy.

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KGxvi  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:02:03pm

re: #144 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

If Trumpism wasn’t a giant fraud, the world would look something like 1931… only with nuclear weapons and the internet fanning the flames.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:03:46pm
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KGxvi  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:05:57pm

re: #142 Belafon

The simplest way would be for the government to assume some amount of the lower level rent to be paid up the chain. Probably not all, but a good chunk. Then tax the wealthy to pay for it because otherwise it’s just moving more money to the rich.

For some reason all I can think of is this scene and “I’m paying you with your own money”

Rounders (10/12) Movie CLIP - I Stick it in You! (1998) HD

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:06:54pm

you coulda done that in NC (we know they wont anyway)

“The Republican National Committee announced on Monday that its convention in Jacksonville would comply with any health regulations, including mask-wearing measures, that the city has imposed,” NBC News reports.

“On Monday, the city announced that masks will be mandatory indoors and in public places where social distancing is challenging.”

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:06:54pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:07:32pm

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🌹UOJB!  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:07:50pm

re: #53 The Pie Overlord!

She seems nice.

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See why I left PA in 1982?

It’s cause of folks like this who said that Hitler didn’t finish the job right to my face.

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🌹UOJB!  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:09:39pm

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:10:02pm

Tyranny!

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:10:40pm

re: #148 KGxvi

For some reason all I can think of is this scene and “I’m paying you with your own money”

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Probably, but I don’t think rentiers actually earned their money, not in any meaningful “contribute to the improvement of the economy or well-being” kind of way.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:10:56pm

re: #120 Charles Johnson

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we were so close to “Man ‘accidentally’ shoots wife, blames protesters”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:14:51pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

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after 3 1/2 years, no, i don’t think this anymore

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:16:29pm

re: #156 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

we were so close to “Man ‘accidentally’ shoots wife, blames protesters”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:17:01pm

re: #136 Dr Lizardo

Who needs bio-engineering?

This big bad boy would probably send most people away screaming….

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Dr. Matt  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:18:13pm

White people….

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:18:23pm

Wow! I figured out what looks so different about current AR-15s and the visually similar weapons we had in Vietnam: You never saw chubby guys handling them back then.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:21:07pm

re: #150 Charles Johnson

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where did that ‘stigma’ come from, mitch?
any idea?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:22:18pm

I’m willing that chubby fuck has never even fired that thing. It’s bone stock. It’s the factory mag. He even has the sling that comes in the box.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:24:52pm

re: #163 Dr. Matt

I’m willing that chubby fuck has never even fired that thing. It’s bone stock. It’s the factory mag. He even has the sling that comes in the box.

And you can count on it he’s been waiting for this day.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:26:33pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

I love how team Trump is going with the excuse that “The President wasn’t briefed on that” with regards to the Russia bounties while apparently not understanding that it’s still a BIG FUCKING DEAL if the President WAS NOT BRIEFED on extremely vital intelligence like that.

It’s always amateur hour with these wannabes.

My read on this: it’s the Intelligence Community totally RATF*CKING Trump; they put the intel into multiple reports, but kept it in printed mode, knowing that Herr Dumbshit is literally too f*cking stupid to read.

That way - the CIA/NSA/FBI can all say, “There it was in the report, just like we said. We told you multiple weeks that Russkies were targeting US troops, and murdering them in cahoots with the jihadis!”

I think the IC just got fed up with having a president who was stupid, arrogant, uneducated and treated them like shit, and decided to cornhole Trump. Hard.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:28:58pm

re: #162 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

“Let’s just do nothing to contain the virus and hope this doesn’t eventually blow up in our faces.”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:28:59pm

reposting this from yesterday

we must remember this - he’s not trying to spin, rationalize, explain, salvage, anything.

objective reality doesnt matter
what actually occurred doesnt matter
truth and facts dont matter
what he said 10 minutes ago doesnt matter

A.R. in Los Angeles, CA, writes: (Z) speculated that Donald Trump had declared the China trade deal dead, told Peter Navarro, and then cooled off and changed his mind. He also mused that administrations usually improve their messaging over time and get better at the “nuts and bolts” of running the country. That assumes, of course, that the man at the top cares one iota about running the country or about consistent, truthful messaging. Donald Trump cares about one thing and one thing only: Donald Trump. He has been completely consistent throughout his career and his presidency on that score. He will say whatever he thinks he needs to say to get what he wants at any given moment. I have no doubt he told Navarro that the deal was dead. When Navarro announced that, the markets tanked. So, Trump took to twitter and said exactly the opposite and the markets recovered—problem solved. He doesn’t care whether there’s actually a deal with China and he doesn’t care whether China actually buys more soybeans or not. All he cares about is the announcement and appearances and the reaction of his base, his donors and the markets. That’s it!

It was the same with the Bidens and Burisma. Trump didn’t care whether an investigation was actually done or whether there was any basis for one—all he wanted was the announcement. He doesn’t care whether North Korea actually dismantles its nuclear arsenal. All he cared about was the photo op and the announcement of some vague deal. No one believes Trump is actually religious. All he wanted was a photo in front of a church holding a Bible. Likewise, he doesn’t care about the outcome of Barr’s investigation into the investigators or whether that’s proper—all he wanted was the announcement.

It’s the same with COVID-19. It’s a hoax when he wants to pack an arena and it’s a deadly scourge when he wants to restrict immigration. He doesn’t care how many people actually test positive; he just doesn’t want it announced—that’s why he doesn’t want any more testing. It was the same in his career, and he bragged about it. How many floors are in his new building? It depends who’s asking. If it’s the press, it’s 100 floors. If it’s the Building Department, who will charge more for a permit, then it’s 80. If he wanted a loan, his loan application claimed he was rich as Croesus. If it’s a tax return, suddenly he’s a pauper. The truth is irrelevant. He says whatever he needs to say in the moment to get what he wants in the moment. That’s the entirety of what drives him and he has never, ever deviated from that, even as president.</blockquote>

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:30:57pm

This will put a spring in your step:

THE FEARLESS FLYERS /// Colonel Panic

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makeitstop  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:44:33pm

This is so goddamn dopey, it might just work.

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dat_said  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:45:25pm

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America has always placed Property Rights above almost all other human rights, and evicting economic victims of COVID is fully in keeping with that tradition.

If not already mentioned, Covid evictions will mess up voting too. They’ll be those letters sent to former addresses that require a return response in 30 days or you’re kicked off the registered voter list. Your current address won’t match your ID address because you don’t have time to get the ID updated or you don’t have a permanent address yet, so the provisional is murky…

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retired cynic  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:53:33pm

re: #92 lawhawk

Scalia would have been replaced by a liberal justice; 6-3.

Sorry if late, but not with Mitch in the saddle. Remember, he wouldn’t approve any SCJ for Hillary. Not for four years.

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Teukka  Jun 29, 2020 • 2:55:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:01:06pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:03:17pm

Atomwaffen Andy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:05:18pm
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Jay C  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:06:54pm

re: #171 retired cynic

Sorry if late, but not with Mitch in the saddle. Remember, he wouldn’t approve any SCJ for Hillary. Not for four years.

If Hillary Clinton had been elected President, we would probably have had Justice Merrick Garland on SCOTUS for nearly four years now: IIRC, his nomination had never been formally withdrawn, and Moscow Mitch had said (again, IIRC: always chancy) that he would have rushed Garland’s nom through, rather than take his chances on HRC nominating - Bill Ayers, or somebody…….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:07:52pm
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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:11:04pm

One hand, Donnie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:14:30pm
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Teukka  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:14:59pm

Nice zinger…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:16:25pm
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retired cynic  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:16:47pm

Our local NPR station had a show on Illinois as a de-facto slave state, up until 1863. I had not known the half of it. Text and audio of the show: Illinois Issues: Slave State
By Tara McClellan McAndrew

Because Illinois is a northern state and the former home of Abraham Lincoln, it isn’t typically associated with slavery. But there was slavery in Illinois for more than 100 years.

Even after Illinois entered the Union, loopholes in its laws allowed the practice to continue, making the future Land of Lincoln a quasi-slave state.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:16:50pm
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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:17:21pm
“…The sources did cite some instances in which they said Trump acted responsibly and in the national interest during telephone discussions with some foreign leaders.”

Please clap.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:19:32pm

holy fuck:

“In hundreds of highly classified phone calls with foreign heads of state, President Trump was so consistently unprepared for discussion of serious issues, so often outplayed in his conversations with powerful leaders… and so abusive to leaders of America’s principal allies, that the calls helped convince some senior US officials — including his former secretaries of state and defense, two national security advisers and his longest-serving chief of staff — that the President himself posed a danger to the national security of the United States,” CNN reports.

“The sources said there was little evidence that the President became more skillful or competent in his telephone conversations with most heads of state over time. Rather, he continued to believe that he could either charm, jawbone or bully almost any foreign leader into capitulating to his will, and often pursued goals more attuned to his own agenda than what many of his senior advisers considered the national interest.”

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:20:42pm

re: #185 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

The whole GOP knew and was fine taking the risk for all of us.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:23:36pm

re: #185 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

holy fuck:

Fuck.

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jeffreyw  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:24:05pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:25:31pm

re: #186 jaunte

The whole GOP knew and was fine taking the risk for all of us.

Hey he makes their rage baby base feel better about being impotent rage babies!

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:28:07pm

re: #182 retired cynic

Our local NPR station had a show on Illinois as a de-facto slave state, up until 1863. I had not known the half of it. Text and audio of the show: Illinois Issues: Slave State
By Tara McClellan McAndrew

Thanks! Going to listen now. I knew that, like Indiana, Illinois was filled with sundown towns after the Civil War. My home of Champaign (as you know from having lived there) was and is extremely segregated.

I should add that before moving to New England I didn’t realize how long slavery persisted here either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:28:43pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:29:25pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:31:21pm

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:32:41pm

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:33:55pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:34:21pm

re: #187 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Fuck.

Two sources described Trump as woefully uninformed about the history of the Syrian conflict and the Middle East generally, and said he was often caught off guard, and lacked sufficient knowledge to engage on equal terms in nuanced policy discussion with Erdogan. “Erdogan took him to the cleaners,” said one of the sources

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:34:59pm

Wow: weird weather over NYC;
Thunderstorm just broke and then the sun came out: a huge 180-arc rainbow over the East River.

ETA: Which pix I would love to share with y’all, but I have no idea how to post photos here from my iPad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:35:28pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:35:36pm

re: #196 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Yep sounds like him.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:36:59pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:38:17pm
A Donald Trump presidency is among the greatest threats facing America, and the Republican standard-bearer is the worst major-party candidate for the job in U.S. history.”

— the editors of Foreign Policy, 2016

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:39:54pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:41:50pm

eta: Most countries give their crazy people treatment and medication. we give ours guns.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:41:58pm

re: #202 jaunte

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Whatever happened to free peach.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:42:13pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Minnesota has been maintaining a < 5% positive test rate, though health officials are cautioning that they expect that to rise in the next couple of weeks. However, we have achieved our goal, set in April, of building capacity to perform 20,000 tests per day. Fuck Trump.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:42:36pm

re: #204 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I thought they wanted liberals to join.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:43:37pm

re: #206 jaunte

I thought they wanted liberals to join.

Guess not.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:43:56pm

re: #206 jaunte

I thought they wanted liberals to join.

maybe the cow isn’t a liberal?

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:47:16pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:48:17pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:50:37pm

He is a threat. The world is going to be a much better place when he’s gone.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:51:16pm

re: #209 jaunte

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Maybe Susan Collins will boldly show her concern!

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:51:40pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Trump’s calls with female leaders were ‘near sadistic’” calling Germany’s Angela Merkel and the UK’s Theresa May “weak” “stupid” “spineless”.

Jesus. Again, I wonder what in the ever-lovin’ F did Trump’s mom DO to him?

Did she do the full Cersei Lannister and twist his penis nearly off while he was helpless in the crib? Did she taunt him as weak while his daddy was away marching with the Klan?

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:52:14pm

re: #205 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Minnesota has been maintaining a < 5% positive test rate, though health officials are cautioning that they expect that to rise in the next couple of weeks. However, we have achieved our goal, set in April, of building capacity to perform 20,000 tests per day. Fuck Trump.

For a nice, relaxing beach vacation, come to South Carolina!

Last week, DHEC reported at least 892 new cases every day, reaching a high of 1,599…The percentage of positive tests, which health officials use to gauge the rate of spread, has also gone up.The average has risen roughly 10 percentage points over the past 28 days. Last week, the percentage ranged from 12.6% to 20.1%. In May, the percentage ranged from 2% to 4% on average.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:54:46pm

Trashes our allies. Trashes former Presidents but loves to kiss ass of dictators. He’s yours Republicans. You deserve to be defined by this treasonous rotten orange flesh skinned asshole for as long as I live.

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retired cynic  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:55:41pm

re: #190 Barefoot Grin

Thanks! Going to listen now. I knew that, like Indiana, Illinois was filled with sundown towns after the Civil War. My home of Champaign (as you know from having lived there) was and is extremely segregated.

My little local town was a sundown town, and (if the story be true) horribly hung a black hobo for the rape and murder of a local girl, only to find out it was a hired man on her parent’s farm.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:56:20pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:58:35pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:58:39pm

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:59:41pm

re: #185 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

holy fuck:

Which link is that from?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 3:59:58pm

re: #212 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Maybe Susan Collins will boldly show her concern!

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Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:01:44pm

re: #217 Belafon

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4 Americans died in a single night in Benghazi and we spent 4 years hearing that even if Obama didn’t know about the possible danger or that the attack was happening until it was already over, he still bore total responsibility for those deaths and the WH needed to explain how it could have allowed such a thing to happen.

So Repubs can kiss my lily white ass about this “political” BS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:01:56pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:03:30pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

4 Americans died in a single night in Benghazi and we spent 4 years hearing that even if Obama didn’t know about the possible danger or that the attack was happening until it was already over, he still bore total responsibility for those deaths and the WH needed to explain how it could have allowed such a thing to happen.

So Repubs can kiss my lily white ass about this “political” BS.

They want to cover for Trump. If and hopefully when Biden beats him, we can’t let them act like elected Republicans werent anything but his worst enablers.

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thecommodore  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:03:34pm

re: #14 Jay C

And amazingly, even in the 21st Century, I’ve seen some “conservative intellectuals” argue that we ought to reinstate some version of that rule for the “good of the country”.

You put scare quotes around “conservative intellectuals.”

:D

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:04:09pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So we can blame cats for Trump?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:05:14pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:06:34pm

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Meanwhile, the clock continues to tick down on the expanded UEI benefits and other provisions of the CARES Act that have prevented millions from becoming homeless, starved, or unable to pay their bills. And there’s no rush to address that because Repubs are still split between those who think “reopening” is working and people should be forced back to work…and those who think that $600/wk is an extravagant giveaway that’s keeping people from looking for jobs.

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:08:46pm

re: #226 Belafon

So we can blame cats for Trump?

Speaking of cats—

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:09:28pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:10:55pm

re: #220 Belafon

Which link is that from?

sorry
I got it from cnn via politicalwire.com

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Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:11:27pm

Why are Repubs suddenly taking CV-19 seriously? Because they bet on “reopening” and they’re losing big. All the assholes who declared that Texas was showing the country “how it’s done” or saying that the media owed DeSantis an apology because “people aren’t dying in the streets!” are now freaking the fuck out because both states are now surpassing their Apr-May peaks day after day.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:12:38pm

re: #231 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

sorry
I got it from cnn via politicalwire.com

Thanks. I finally figured it out. There’s just a lot of comments to catch up on and that one was VERY important. Because the fuckers knew he was damaging national security and didn’t do anything to remove him from office.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:12:51pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:14:05pm

re: #228 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, the clock continues to tick down on the expanded UEI benefits and other provisions of the CARES Act that have prevented millions from becoming homeless, starved, or unable to pay their bills. And there’s no rush to address that because Repubs are still split between those who think “reopening” is working and people should be forced back to work…and those who think that $600/wk is an extravagant giveaway that’s keeping people from looking for jobs.

30 million plus out of work.
thousands of businesses closed permanently.

there are no jobs to look for

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:14:11pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Does Ben of the Corn realize that Trump tweets from a phone?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:14:44pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ben continues to show how intellectual dishonesty is his bread and butter. Stupid fuck.

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Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:15:10pm

re: #235 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

30 million plus out of work.
thousands of businesses closed permanently.

there are no jobs to look for

Remember, we’re talking people who looked at the numbers during the Great Recession and told themselves that there were “plenty of jobs” but nobody was looking because “UEI benefits are too good!”

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:15:16pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:16:03pm

re: #232 Targetpractice

Why are Repubs suddenly taking CV-19 seriously? Because they bet on “reopening” and they’re losing big. All the assholes who declared that Texas was showing the country “how it’s done” or saying that the media owed DeSantis an apology because “people aren’t dying in the streets!” are now freaking the fuck out because both states are now surpassing their Apr-May peaks day after day.

reality is a slap in the puss

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:16:25pm

re: #225 thecommodore

You put scare quotes around “conservative intellectuals.”

:D

I was going to asterisk it and add “oxymoron alert”, but figured the quotes would suffice….. ;)

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:16:49pm

re: #233 Belafon

Thanks. I finally figured it out. There’s just a lot of comments to catch up on and that one was VERY important. Because the fuckers knew he was damaging national security and didn’t do anything to remove him from office.

indeed

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:16:58pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Watch that Villages video without the sound on, there would be no reason for Trump to retweet it

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:19:42pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:20:14pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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so the presidents an idiot?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:21:10pm

re: #239 jaunte

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they are not freaking out
they are letting him

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Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:22:14pm

By the way, if you have a wingnut relatives who you expect to run into this coming weekend, you can expect them to insist that it was the protests that caused CV-19s resurgence and that “reopening” was going without a hitch until BLM/Antifa started spreading the virus again.

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:22:57pm

re: #245 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

so the presidents an idiot?

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It’s totally cool for Trump to retweet stuff he hadn’t heard or sign things that he hasn’t read or appoint people he doesn’t know.

//

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:23:13pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:24:51pm

re: #247 Targetpractice

By the way, if you have a wingnut relatives who you expect to run into this coming weekend, you can expect them to insist that it was the protests that caused CV-19s resurgence and that “reopening” was going without a hitch until BLM/Antifa started spreading the virus again.

Except Minnesota is dramatic proof of the exact opposite, where our new case count and % positive have been falling steadily for more than 2 weeks - and that includes the protest numbers. As opposed to churches, whose indoor celebrations with hugging and a complete lack of masks provides an ideal breeding ground for the virus.

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Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:27:59pm

re: #250 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Except Minnesota is dramatic proof of the exact opposite, where our new case count and % positive have been falling steadily for more than 2 weeks - and that includes the protest numbers. As opposed to churches, whose indoor celebrations with hugging and a complete lack of masks provides an ideal breeding ground for the virus.

Exactly. Go anywhere that bars/clubs/churches/etc are either closed or restricted and there’s no massive spike in new cases. But these are also all places we were assured were totally safe to reopen by Repubs.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:28:36pm

re: #250 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Actually, on that topic, the Minnesota Department of Health’s official recommendation for fighting the coronavirus - GET THE FUCK OUT(side). While I still don’t believe sunlight destroys or weakens the coronavirus, the evidence is piling up fairly substantially that being outdoors dramatically lowers your risk of contracting the disease, as long as proper social distancing is observed (and for fuck’s sake, how hard is it to stay 6 feet away from other people in the great outdoors unless you’re crowding into a beach?) So if you really, REALLY need to leave home and be with other people - go to a fucking park, you cavepeople.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:31:45pm
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gwangung  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:31:49pm

re: #250 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Except Minnesota is dramatic proof of the exact opposite, where our new case count and % positive have been falling steadily for more than 2 weeks - and that includes the protest numbers. As opposed to churches, whose indoor celebrations with hugging and a complete lack of masks provides an ideal breeding ground for the virus.

From NPR”

Protest! Don’t Party!

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mmmirele  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:32:34pm

I risked my life to stand in a line down at the post office to pick up two letters. I thought they were packages from the UK, but no, they were two “Notice of Default and Intent to Accelerate” letters. Exactly the same, and exactly the same as the two letters I picked up last week from my mailbox.

I swear, these people are jacking me around and I’m getting very tired of it.

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:32:54pm

re: #247 Targetpractice

By the way, if you have a wingnut relatives who you expect to run into this coming weekend, you can expect them to insist that it was the protests that caused CV-19s resurgence and that “reopening” was going without a hitch until BLM/Antifa started spreading the virus again.

Just keep this Johns Hopkins chart handy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:34:03pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:34:36pm

re: #256 BeachDem

Just keep this Johns Hopkins chart handy.

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I doubt even that will convince them, since Donny spent much of the last three months insisting to people that all the charts by the experts were “wrong” because “They said 1-2 million and we’re nowhere near that many!!!”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:35:32pm

Florida to close beaches for July 4th. Expect much wingnut screeching:

Several counties in South Florida, including Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach and Monroe (home to the Florida Keys) are closing their beaches for the July 4th holiday weekend as part of a statewide effort to get control over the state’s spiking COVID-19 infection rate.

The Florida Department of Health reported 5,266 new confirmed cases of COVID Monday, the sixth consecutive day in which at least 5,000 new cases have been announced, and 28 more deaths, according to Florida Today, part of the USA TODAY network.

The state now has more than 146,000 confirmed coronavirus cases and more than 3,400 deaths. The cases have more than doubled since Florida entered Phase 2 of its reopening plan on June 5.

I am scared/angry right now because I know, I just KNOW that this weekend we’re going to see videos all over Twitter of crowds of people packed on to beaches, lakes, pools, restaurants, bars, etc. You thought it was bad in March and April? We are seriously close to things going straight to hell next month.

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:36:03pm

re: #258 Targetpractice

I doubt even that will convince them, since Donny spent much of the last three months insisting to people that all the charts by the experts were “wrong” because “They said 1-2 million and we’re nowhere near that many!!!”

You’re right—nothing will convince them, but it might help to preserve your own sanity.

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Interesting Times  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:36:37pm

To be filed under, “Tweet, there’s always a”:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:39:47pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:41:31pm

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

Florida to close beaches for July 4th. Expect much wingnut screeching:

Several counties in South Florida, including Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach and Monroe (home to the Florida Keys) are closing their beaches for the July 4th holiday weekend as part of a statewide effort to get control over the state’s spiking COVID-19 infection rate.

The Florida Department of Health reported 5,266 new confirmed cases of COVID Monday, the sixth consecutive day in which at least 5,000 new cases have been announced, and 28 more deaths, according to Florida Today, part of the USA TODAY network.

The state now has more than 146,000 confirmed coronavirus cases and more than 3,400 deaths. The cases have more than doubled since Florida entered Phase 2 of its reopening plan on June 5.

I am scared/angry right now because I know, I just KNOW that this weekend we’re going to see videos all over Twitter of crowds of people packed on to beaches, lakes, pools, restaurants, bars, etc. You thought it was bad in March and April? We are seriously close to things going straight to hell next month.

They insisted on having the beaches open by Memorial Day as a sign that they had the outbreak “under control” and insisted there was no need for ordinances/laws regarding masks and social distancing because “FREEDUMB!!!”, and they didn’t even make it to July 4th before the lockdowns had to start again.

Anybody who thinks those beaches will be deserted this weekend is delusional. They’ll be packed because everybody will think the same thing: “They can’t arrest ALL of us!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:42:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:44:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:45:15pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:45:53pm

re: #182 retired cynic

Our local NPR station had a show on Illinois as a de-facto slave state, up until 1863. I had not known the half of it. Text and audio of the show: Illinois Issues: Slave State
By Tara McClellan McAndrew

Another thing about this: I learned from the couple of years that I lived in Lexington, KY that there was a special category of enslaved person for sale at Cheapside there called “fancy girls.” They were often young women of lighter skin color (in other words, themselves the product of rape) who were sold as sex slaves. The newspaper ad in the article you link to at the top advertises “A Likely Negro…aged 16”; that struck me as a potential ad for purchase of someone enslaved for rape. I could be reading too much into it, but….

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Targetpractice  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:46:57pm

Of course, the plague rats that don’t decide to rush the beaches figuring the cops will just give up with arrests will do the next dumbest thing: They’ll locate beaches that aren’t closed and just crowd them instead. You can be sure that folks in those cities whose beaches just announced closures are already scouting out other beaches in the state or in neighboring states that will be totally open this weekend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:51:26pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:55:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:57:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2020 • 4:58:25pm
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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 30, 2020 • 7:23:26am

re: #263 Targetpractice

They insisted on having the beaches open by Memorial Day as a sign that they had the outbreak “under control” and insisted there was no need for ordinances/laws regarding masks and social distancing because “FREEDUMB!!!”, and they didn’t even make it to July 4th before the lockdowns had to start again.

Anybody who thinks those beaches will be deserted this weekend is delusional. They’ll be packed because everybody will think the same thing: “They can’t arrest ALL of us!”

They aren’t getting it on the beaches. They are getting it from being cooped up inside in the air conditioning.


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