Cory Wong With Emily C. Browning: “Juke on Jelly”

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Cory Wong Live @ The Fineline
Minneapolis, MN // Feb 9, 2019

Cory Wong - gtr/vox
Petar Janjic - drums/cym
Kevin Gastonguay - keys
Kevin MacIntire - bass
Michael Nelson - trombone
Steve Strand - tpt
Kenni Holmen - reeds, piccolo
Emily C Browning - vox/gtr

Peter Suttman - camera
Caleb Fisher - mix
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294 comments

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:07:57am

kcuf pmurt

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:08:54am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:10:58am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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“For some reason”. Yeah, like the fact that he wants to eliminate the people who oppose him by any means he can.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:11:20am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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He’s never had an unifying message. Delusion is a helluva drug.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:12:51am

re: #4 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s never had an unifying message. Delusion is a helluva drug.

Denial, it’s not just a river in Mississippi.

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Blizard  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:13:25am

CL’d from downstairs. I’m an introvert, even with social media..

re: #352 Blizard

Poker aficionado eats 50 hard boiled eggs in under an hour.

Am I late to the party? Long-time, no post, but here every day. Howdy from NW Colorado! Hunkered down for the long haul here.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:13:38am

re: #5 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I thought it was in Egypt.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:13:50am

re: #7 PhillyPretzel

I thought it was in Egypt.

That’s the joke.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:14:23am

re: #8 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Okay. :)

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sagehen  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:14:58am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:15:45am

re: #9 PhillyPretzel

Okay. :)

Though I guess it would’ve been funnier if I had replied to your comment with “NO IT ISN’T”.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:16:07am

Andrew Sullivan is avatar of white fragility.

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:16:17am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

“The sun had a chance to rise in the west this morning, but for some reason…”

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:17:28am

philadelphia homicide detective solves murder in mississippi.

(oh, the detective is black)

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:18:38am

re: #14 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

“In the Heat of the Night.”
youtube.com

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:20:26am

Hey A Mom Anon - you have a secret benefactor who has gifted you with a one-year ad-free subscription - please enjoy!

This might help with your crashing problem, but if not, remember that if you go to a page without comments (just click the title on the front page) you can get into the LGF Spy version of the page by clicking the magnifying glass icon at bottom right of the post. I usually use this mode on my iPhone because it’s faster and uses less memory.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:21:45am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:22:09am

My old church did an indoor potluck with 30 people a couple of days ago.

I bet you can probably guess why I don’t go there anymore.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:22:39am
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:23:01am

OK I check Twitter and see #Trump2020Landslide and Steven Miller trending…

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:24:23am

Meanwhile the Pulpit Pimp Palace 3 blocks down the street is defying the Governor and having worship services today…

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:29:08am

re: #6 Blizard

Great male character actor cast.

I used to chat occasionally with George Kennedy at the produce aisle back in late 1980’s. Really nice person who parlayed an ability to sweat impressively into a series of redneckspoitation film roles.

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:29:52am

re: #10 sagehen

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Beat me to it.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:30:04am

Florida Man reveals astonishing secret to the Grim Reaper!

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:32:56am

Good con ops foil engineered superhuman with a grudge

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:33:56am

Happy Fourth of July, everyone. Stay healthy!!

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:34:43am
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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:41:03am

re: #26 Dr Lizardo

Happy Fourth of July, everyone. Stay healthy!!

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I only have two things on that list, and the Ketchup is organic.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:43:03am

Ketchup, on a hotdog?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:44:54am

And they started by unleashing the virus on the Republican stronghold of (checks notes)…New York.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:45:13am

re: #29 Dread Pirate

Ketchup, on a hotdog?

I do it.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:45:38am

The Republican Party has blood on its hands.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:45:46am

re: #29 Dread Pirate

Ketchup, on a hotdog?

Ketchup and mustard. If I liked relish, I would do that too (Chicago style).

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A Mom Anon  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:46:26am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:46:31am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

The Republican Party has blood on its hands.

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Jesus Christ, if they keep going like this they’re going to have more new cases in a day than my state has had total cases since the beginning.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:47:36am

From the previous thread:

re: #334 NetworkKed

“Click it or ticket” was a gross expansion of the authority of police officers to pull anyone over that they wanted to. I’m not going to blame seatbelt laws for racism that already existed, but they sure do enable it. And while there are societal costs to someone not wearing their seatbelt, to such a degree that I’ll even agree it’s fair game for government regulation, it’s not a germ jumping from car to car unbuckling other people. And it didn’t persuade anyone that it was worth wearing a seat belt, it was just threat from authority.

“Mask it or casket” given the first phrase as context is even more offensive, because the implication is that the mask police are the ones who are going to make you dead.

Sorry. The annual advertising campaigns really rub me the wrong way.

In the world I live in, a majority of the people around me would only wear their seatbelts if they would get in trouble otherwise. It’s the same with speed limits, which, btw, are being less followed due to obviously fewer cops on the roads.

One of my cousins tried to argue back in April that we didn’t need enforcement of masks and distancing because people will do the right thing. Guess what? I knew they wouldn’t and we know they won’t.

You’re also reaching on “mask it or casket.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:48:23am

Trump has achieved his goal. He’s effectively completely isolated us from the rest of the developed world.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:48:38am

re: #35 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jesus Christ, if they keep going like this they’re going to have more new cases in a day than my state has had total cases since the beginning.

My grandkid is stuck there for 5 weeks so his moron father can have his visitation rights.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:49:48am

Do you talk to your dad?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:49:54am

Kill it with fire!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:49:58am

I honestly don’t know how my mental health would survive without all of you. Thanks and hugs and everything kind to all of you, especially my secret Santa person. I’m crying a little, happy tears though, the good kind. 🤗❤️😘🤘

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Charmingly Persistent  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:50:01am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:50:14am

re: #38 Decatur Deb

My grandkid is stuck there for 5 weeks so his moron father can have his visitation rights.

My worship leader at church went there on vacation (before they opened everything up, but still). I admit I was incredibly nervous for the two weeks after they got home.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:50:42am
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jeffreyw  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:51:38am

salt and pepper ribs

enjoy!
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:53:01am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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National garden of stone?//

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plansbandc  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:54:04am

re: #41 A Mom Anon

Same here. You all help me more than you’ll ever know. ((((A Mom Anon))))

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:55:22am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Trump did not create a statue garden. He created a committee to someday write a report about a statue garden.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:56:35am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Let me guess: They’re gonna put the MLK statue in a back corner.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:57:13am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:58:15am

re: #49 Eclectic Cyborg

Let me guess: They’re gonna put the MLK statue in a back corner.

By the time this is executed, Stormy Daniels will be the first bust included.

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:58:42am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

New York Post
@nypost
Trump announces the creation of ‘National Garden’ with statues of ‘greatest Americans”

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 10:59:29am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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From me (obviously) :

But better:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:01:15am

Two years ago.
Remember this? The massive antifa uprising of July 4, 2018? Neither do I, but conspira-liars, Russian trolls, and other GOP media were on fire over it for days.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:02:12am
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plansbandc  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:03:32am

re: #55 Belafon

Now fire the officers who murdered him. And then prosecute them for murder.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:03:58am

re: #33 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ketchup and mustard. If I liked relish, I would do that too (Chicago style).

My preference for hot dogs is a good mustard, diced onions, and perhaps pepper relish if I have some on hand.

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:04:00am

re: #52 stpaulbear

(That’s a Mary Tyler Moore statue on the Nicollet Mall in Minneapolis. It’s probably only famous in the Twin Cities. It’s located at the spot where she throws her hat into the air during the intro to each episode)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:04:34am

re: #58 stpaulbear

(That’s a Mary Tyler Moore statue on the Nicollet Mall in Minneapolis. It’s probably only famous in the Twin Cities.)

She has spunk.

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:05:37am

I should be asleep. I worked overnight and but couldn’t stay asleep due to the heat up here. So perhaps I should make some lunch. How about a nice bachelor special?

Take some kielbasa, cut it into chunks. Put in bottom of sauce pan. Add half can of corn. Measure enough water for a cup of mashed potato flakes. Heat to a simmer until sausage is fully heated, then add butter and bring to a boil. Take off heat, mix in flakes, serve on plate with shredded cheddar on top.

It’s actually not too bad.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:07:02am

re: #59 Decatur Deb

She has spunk.

A great episode

Another one was when Lou says “i dont blurt”

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:08:05am

re: #52 stpaulbear

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Good. Also up there:

As great an American as any who has ever existed.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:08:09am

re: #59 Decatur Deb

She has spunk.

I hate spunk

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:09:47am

re: #62 William Lewis

Good. Also up there:

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As great an American as any who has ever existed.

There’s also a Linus and Lucy statue nearby.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:11:11am

re: #29 Dread Pirate

Ketchup, on a hotdog?

No. On the bun!

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sagehen  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:11:34am

re: #59 Decatur Deb

She has spunk.

I hate spunk.

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:14:46am

More great Americans.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:15:10am

re: #29 Dread Pirate

Ketchup, on a hotdog?

And no onions? Heresy!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:16:41am

Tonight’s dinner: I coated a rack of baby backs in a “Kansas City Sweet Heat” spice blend, wrapped them in aluminum foil, and tossed them in the oven. In three hours, we’ll find out how I did.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:18:33am
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:19:30am

re: #29 Dread Pirate

Dad put Mayonnaise on his hot dogs.

Mom and I could never figure out why…

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Dread Pirate  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:20:17am
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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:21:18am

re: #70 Charles Johnson

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We know Trump likes Russia.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:21:36am
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:22:34am

re: #71 🌹UOJB!

He was just marching to the beat of a different drummer.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:22:51am

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

Kill it with fire!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:23:22am

re: #70 Charles Johnson

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Interesting that in addition to boring we all tried to do it in like one or two sentences.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:24:32am

FUCK YOU FRANKY GRAHAM CRACKER!

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Charmingly Persistent  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:24:52am

re: #44 Charles Johnson

I have issued an executive order

to establish a commission to make recommendations

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plansbandc  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:26:18am

Very pleased with Arsenal’s performance today. They may qualify for European play next year after all.

I think Arteta’s system is starting to take hold.

Please disregard if you are not a footy fan.

I’m just so pleased.

:D :D

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:26:29am

re: #79 Charmingly Persistent

I have issued an executive order

to establish a commission to make recommendations

Should it be put in the geographical center of the nation so that everyone has equal access to it?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:29:32am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:32:10am

re: #81 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Should it be put in the geographical center of the nation so that everyone has equal access to it?

It should be put on the Miami shoreline to create a breakwater.

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jeffreyw  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:32:51am

re: #51 Decatur Deb

By the time this is executed, Stormy Daniels will be the first bust included.

I think Dolly Parton’s bust should get a memorial, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:33:20am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:33:22am

Local bureaucrat learns he has terminal cancer after 30 years of unfulfilling work; decides to make a difference and ultimately gets politicians to turn sewage-filled area near slum into playground, then dies. Politicians take credit; remaining office workers return to work inspired only to have tedium of bureaucratic work grind them back down again; children play.

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BigPapa  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:33:31am

re: #82 Charles Johnson

The president might be a fascist, but…’

I’m sick of these intellectual Wights.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:34:03am

togre: #84 jeffreyw

I think Dolly Parton’s bust should get a memorial, too.

Together they could support the entrance archway.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:34:18am

re: #86 Barefoot Grin

One of the greatest films ever.

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TarHellion  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:38:05am

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Youngest son takes over family business

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BigPapa  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:39:50am
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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:40:12am

re: #84 jeffreyw

I think Dolly Parton’s bust should get a memorial, too.

I’m for all of her.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:40:27am

I’ve been thinking of “cancel culture” like the code of conduct for the Assassins Guild’ in Ankh-Morpork: no inhuming someone who can’t defend themselves, but once you have enough money you are deemed to be able to protect yourself.

Hence I am not really bothered about rich white celebrities being “cancelled,” e.g. people yell at them and maybe they lose an endorsement contract.

I am less thrilled when some random person is dragged over the coals all over social media for being sort of an ass or making a dumb mistake. That really does have the potential to mess up someone’s life if the the first thing that shows up when a future employee Googles them is their public humiliation.

People who call the cops on black people having a picnic are deemed to be able to protect themselves. Cops certainly are. Everyone should drag them.

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:40:59am

re: #80 plansbandc

Very pleased with Arsenal’s performance today. They may qualify for European play next year after all.

I think Arteta’s system is starting to take hold.

Please disregard if you are not a footy fan.

I’m just so pleased.

:D :D

Looks like it was a good match; of course I missed it < face palm >

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:42:34am

re: #56 plansbandc

Now fire the officers who murdered him. And then prosecute them for murder.

And stop negotiating with police unions. They’re terroristic organizations.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:43:16am

re: #91 BigPapa

Saturday matinee with special effects.

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plansbandc  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:44:14am

re: #92 Belafon

LMAO

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:44:22am

re: #86 Barefoot Grin

Local bureaucrat learns he has terminal cancer after 30 years of unfulfilling work; decides to make a difference and ultimately gets politicians to turn sewage-filled area near slum into playground, then dies. Politicians take credit; remaining office workers return to work inspired only to have tedium of bureaucratic work grind them back down again; children play.

Not figuring it out, I’m sure it’s obvious.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:45:08am
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plansbandc  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:45:09am

re: #94 William Lewis

I don’t know if Arsenal Player shows replays anymore? They used to. It was really good!!

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:46:08am

re: #101 plansbandc

I don’t know if Arsenal Player shows replays anymore? They used to. It was really good!!

I’ll check it after I finish lunch. Thanks!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:46:11am

re: #96 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And stop negotiating with police unions. They’re terroristic organizations.

No, they’re bad unions. When you fix the way police are selected, trained, promoted, and retained you will have fixed the union.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:50:49am
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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:52:33am

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Minneapolis barely had a rise in cases after the BLM protests.

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:53:28am

re: #103 Decatur Deb

No, they’re bad unions. When you fix the way police are selected, trained, promoted, and retained you will have fixed the union.

I keep wishing…

Require a college degree.
Then law enforcement specific training, perhaps 2 years.
Then 2 years of OJT apprenticeship. No carrying a firearm until the apprenticeship is over unless authorized, in writing, by local chief in an emergency.
Can not, under any circumstance, hide identity or badge number.

This also goes with my belief that on shift, the body cam should not be able to be turned off. Allow editing of personal/hygiene moments but all cops on duty (including detectives, supervisors, etc) must have the camera on. Turning it off while on duty is automatic termination of employment.

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:54:02am

re: #105 stpaulbear

Minneapolis barely had a rise in cases after the BLM protests.

Protesters were pretty good about wearing masks…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:55:40am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:57:18am

re: #103 Decatur Deb

No, they’re bad unions. When you fix the way police are selected, trained, promoted, and retained you will have fixed the union.

I disagree. Look at that article. Look at the head of the NYPD Union. They not only allow and protect it but they actively endorse violence.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:57:45am

re: #106 William Lewis

I keep wishing…

Require a college degree.
Then law enforcement specific training, perhaps 2 years.
Then 2 years of OJT apprenticeship. No carrying a firearm until the apprenticeship is over unless authorized, in writing, by local chief in an emergency.
Can not, under any circumstance, hide identity or badge number.

This also goes with my belief that on shift, the body cam should not be able to be turned off. Allow editing of personal/hygiene moments but all cops on duty (including detectives, supervisors, etc) must have the camera on. Turning it off while on duty is automatic termination of employment.

Only a schoolteacher will work for that education/salary ratio. The problem isn’t that the killer cops lack the knowledge to do the job, but that they lack the moral compass.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:58:55am

Gosh why is Talcum X trending on Twitter again?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 11:59:54am

re: #109 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I disagree. Look at that article. Look at the head of the NYPD Union. They not only allow and protect it but they actively endorse violence.

They are selected to provide the “monopoly of violence”. Problem is, the worst of them grow too fond of it and are rewarded for it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:00:07pm

re: #107 William Lewis

Protesters were pretty good about wearing masks…

I mean, they were, but that’s also the point. The protests did not lead to a significant spike in cases.

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BigPapa  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:01:23pm

It’s become clear to me authoritarian goons are drawn to law enforcement work. That shit needs to be a hard edge weed out if anything is going to change. This is why fixing the unions, whatever that means, will come up short. Psych profiles need to be aggressive and thorough.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:02:12pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

No, they’re bad unions. When you fix the way police are selected, trained, promoted, and retained you will have fixed the union.

I’m pro-union, but the police unions need to be completely blown up and replaced. In EVERY instance of a police officer performing or celebrating criminal acts, whether it be theft, extortion, assault or even murder under color of authority, they have sided with the officers, and painted the victims of such acts as having deserved it, and have shown full support of any retaliatory acts committed by police when they are subject to oversight.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:02:15pm

No, this is not optimal

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:04:00pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Only a schoolteacher will work for that education/salary ratio. The problem isn’t that the killer cops lack the knowledge to do the job, but that they lack the moral compass.

Oh, I have No problem with boosting the pay of both cops and teachers to match the education requirements. It works in Europe (Finland I think is even longer) so I think if we dangled a big enough carrot it would work.

Yes, grandfathering in the current cops would be necessary as will be making the IA stronger and breaking those unions that are corrupt (NYC, Minneapolis, etc) and ending Qualified Immunity.

As for cops not lacking knowledge, a couple of the worst I’ve known were barely literate thugs and their incident reports read like something Trump would write. Being able to hold life or death in your hand with only a GED is something that has to end.

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NetworkKed  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:05:13pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

No, they’re bad unions. When you fix the way police are selected, trained, promoted, and retained you will have fixed the union.

I’ve had a hard time with this, after a decade of lining up solidly behind unions.

There should be a way to make a police union work, but when a union’s primary function is to defend the well-being of its members, and the work role of those members involves activities which so closely parallel illegal activities (I mean in that use of force plays a part) then I’m not sure how you can set it up to where the union won’t sometimes be on the wrong side of the argument.

Starting from a very strong moral code in the bylaws, maybe? But then you get into splitting hairs and rules lawyering within the union and that’s not going to help… dunno.

Education, yes. Also PAYING officers more. And (ugly to say) not allowing an ex-military monoculture within the force. But those are all prescriptions from outside the union.

Still thinking about this one.

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BigPapa  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:05:25pm

Who likes mango, Kona coffee, and the beach?

Mangos: Here they come.
Mucho Mangos
Kona Coffee
Anaeho’omalu Bay, or A-Bay for you mainlanders

And yes, with Kona coffee, French Press is best.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:05:43pm

re: #105 stpaulbear

Minneapolis barely had a rise in cases after the BLM protests.

Illinois has been experiencing a slow, but real rise, in cases. However the BLM protests coincided with the state following CDC guidelines to reopen. Unfortunately, while you might get retail establishments to adhere to guidelines, good luck on persuading Trumpsters to wear masks (though I do know a couple — including my brother — who have been following best practices). So no way of knowing what is the reason for the increase. Could also be due to travelers from states that are becoming the new centers of the pandemic.

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retired cynic  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:05:57pm

re: #119 BigPapa

Who likes mango, Kona coffee, and the beach?

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And yes, with Kona coffee, French Press is best.

ME!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:06:39pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:06:57pm

re: #115 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

I’m pro-union, but the police unions need to be completely blown up and replaced. In EVERY instance of a police officer performing or celebrating criminal acts, whether it be theft, extortion, assault or even murder under color of authority, they have sided with the officers, and painted the victims of such acts as having deserved it, and have shown full support of any retaliatory acts committed by police when they are subject to oversight.

Those clearly irredeemable police forces and the serving union need to be blown up with the same munition. There is no sense in putting fresh apples into the barrel. Find cities and jurisdictions that have solved the problem and use Fed money to spread their tactic. In worst cases it might take temporary replacement by State or Fed muscle.

But first, get out the vote to get a decent president to get a decent DoJ.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:07:42pm

re: #103 Decatur Deb

No, they’re bad unions. When you fix the way police are selected, trained, promoted, and retained you will have fixed the union.

I also disagree with this. Police unions prevent cops from being held accountable. Power without accountability leads to bad results, always. Some people won’t be turned to the dark side, but they won’t stay in the job either.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:08:41pm

This strikes me as a very bad idea.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:09:14pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

This strikes me as a very bad idea.

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This, right here? This is what corrupt/racist police refer to as a “target-rich environment.”

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Teddy's Person  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:09:36pm

re: #73 Belafon

We know Trump likes Russia.

and the Saudis.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:13:18pm

re: #124 Charmingly Persistent

I also disagree with this. Police unions prevent cops from being held accountable. Power without accountability leads to bad results, always. Some people won’t be turned to the dark side, but they won’t stay in the job either.

Without unions, corporate and public bosses have power without accountability. Pay attention when it’s time to elect city officials.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:13:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:13:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:14:29pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:15:32pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

If this event were to occur in Unix, it would qualify as a kernel panic. In the mainframe z/OS, it would either hang the OS or cause a spin loop.

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BigPapa  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:15:45pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

Boogaloo will use black folks/BLM as a shield, a free ticket to normalization.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:16:12pm

re: #118 NetworkKed

I’ve had a hard time with this, after a decade of lining up solidly behind unions.

There should be a way to make a police union work, but when a union’s primary function is to defend the well-being of its members, and the work role of those members involves activities which so closely parallel illegal activities (I mean in that use of force plays a part) then I’m not sure how you can set it up to where the union won’t sometimes be on the wrong side of the argument.

Starting from a very strong moral code in the bylaws, maybe? But then you get into splitting hairs and rules lawyering within the union and that’s not going to help… dunno.

Education, yes. Also PAYING officers more. And (ugly to say) not allowing an ex-military monoculture within the force. But those are all prescriptions from outside the union.

Still thinking about this one.

Unions will often be on the wrong side of an issue. So are defense lawyers. Well-run cities have the means to force a balance in an adversarial process.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:17:05pm

re: #105 stpaulbear

Minneapolis barely had a rise in cases after the BLM protests.

New York’s was still going down even though they had a march and the police deciding they needed to prove the marchers’ point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:18:36pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:18:40pm
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Charmingly Persistent  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:19:29pm

re: #128 Decatur Deb

Without unions, corporate and public bosses have power without accountability. Pay attention when it’s time to elect city officials.

I am all in favor of unions. I am deeply opposed to police unions. There is no contradiction, because police unions protect their members from accountability for anything, including being fired for murdering people. Other unions protect their members from being fired for bullshit reasons. Sometimes they go a little far in protecting members - but we can live with a few lazy or incompetent workers. We can’t live with violent unhinged police.

Hiring better police will not help. If police can beat the shit out of innocent people without any repercussions, some will, even among your new, fresh, educated force. The rest will be sickened and leave. Police unions select for horrible cops.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:19:46pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:20:37pm

re: #114 BigPapa

I think the police unions need to be concerned ONLY with the actual labor aspects of the job. Like salary, pay raises, benefits, retirement funds and working conditions. They should NEVER have a say in how an officer is investigated, disciplined and prosecuted. Cops are citizens, their rights are no more special than anyone else’s. Let them go through a specific legal process, suspension pending investigation, charges filed , etc,which can be determined fairly, this really isn’t rocket science. Cops should actually be held to a higher standard of conduct than the average person and the system should reflect that respect for the community they serve. Unions don’t have a say in that, or shouldn’t.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:20:41pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

Did everyone forget the “American Carnage” inauguration speech?

Yes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:21:00pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

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part 2 ofthat tweet:

fucking orange moron

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:22:03pm

re: #84 jeffreyw

I think Dolly Parton’s bust should get a memorial, too.

Dolly’s bust is its own memorial.

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:22:20pm

re: #132 Eric The Fruit Bat

If this event were to occur in Unix, it would qualify as a kernel panic. In the mainframe z/OS, it would either hang the OS or cause a spin loop.

Process to process memory protection has been corrupted. That’s going to end up like my first XT running Minix 1.x where the compiler process would start at the top of my 640kb and go down with no protection while the editor process was going bottom up with no protection. If they hit in the middle, the file system was guaranteed to end up trashed.

That they got any kind of multitasking happening on an 8088 though is still amazing.

(kinda side tracked from the open carry metaphor. Sorry)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:22:22pm

re: #138 Charmingly Persistent

I am all in favor of unions. I am deeply opposed to police unions. There is no contradiction, because police unions protect their members from accountability for anything, including being fired for murdering people. Other unions protect their members from being fired for bullshit reasons. Sometimes they go a little far in protecting members - but we can live with a few lazy or incompetent workers. We can’t live with violent unhinged police.

Hiring better police will not help. If police can beat the shit out of innocent people without any repercussions, some will, even among your new, fresh, educated force. The rest will be sickened and leave. Police unions select for horrible cops.

Discipline and reward in any workplace is a managerial responsibility. The city governments hold the reins, and they get the police force they think their electorate wants.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:22:59pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m predicting way ahead of time, that tweet will not age well.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:23:00pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

This strikes me as a very bad idea.

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Someone needs to explain to the BLM members that the boogaloos will turn on them like the storm troopers did the Jedi.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:23:29pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

So what will the excuse be when the death counts jump in a couple of weeks?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:23:45pm
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Charmingly Persistent  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:24:23pm

re: #134 Decatur Deb

Unions will often be on the wrong side of an issue. So are defense lawyers. Well-run cities have the means to force a balance in an adversarial process.

Well, ok, if you fundamentally change how police unions work they can stay. Right now no one has any power to rein them in. Citizen review boards make recommendations that are ingnored. Whistle-blower cops are forceably committed to mental institutions*. Police chiefs who try to fire bad cops are forced out instead.

If police unions do not have the power to overrule a oversight body, things would be a lot different. I am willing to try that.

* This happened - it’s an amazing story

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:27:25pm

re: #150 Charmingly Persistent

Well, ok, if you fundamentally change how police unions work they can stay. Right now no one has any power to rein them in. Citizen review boards make recommendations that are ingnored. Whistle-blower cops are forceably committed to mental institutions*. Police chiefs who try to fire bad cops are forced out instead.

If police unions do not have the power to overrule a oversight body, things would be a lot different. I am willing to try that.

* This happened - it’s an amazing story

Yup. When it really gets that bad, disband the force. That union perishes with it. Rebuild both with rational rules.

This has happened occasionally, like the National Guard taking over in Phenix City AL in the 50s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:27:41pm

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

So what will the excuse be when the death counts jump in a couple of weeks?

demoncrat hoax…

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Charmingly Persistent  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:27:46pm

re: #145 Decatur Deb

Discipline and reward in any workplace is a managerial responsibility. The city governments hold the reins, and they get the police force they think their electorate wants.

They really don’t. Minneapolis had to dissolve their entire force to get out from under that union. If setting some guidelines worked, lots of Democratic cities (not all) would have already done that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:29:08pm
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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:29:14pm

re: #148 Eclectic Cyborg

So what will the excuse be when the death counts jump in a couple of weeks?

That’s the purpose of the biowarfare CTs

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Charmingly Persistent  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:29:14pm

re: #123 Decatur Deb

Those clearly irredeemable police forces and the serving union need to be blown up with the same munition. There is no sense in putting fresh apples into the barrel. Find cities and jurisdictions that have solved the problem and use Fed money to spread their tactic. In worst cases it might take temporary replacement by State of Fed muscle.

But first, get out the vote to get a decent president to get a decent DoJ.

Great conversation, and I agree with everything you say here.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:31:05pm

re: #153 Charmingly Persistent

They really don’t. Minneapolis had to dissolve their entire force to get out from under that union. If setting some guidelines worked, lots of Democratic cities (not all) would have already done that.

Our responses have looped—this comes back to 151. If the city government loses control, they have to do what you describe, or keep the funerals and protests in an endless cycle.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:32:24pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:32:32pm

re: #144 William Lewis

I worked on the Minix 1.5 patch for the Atari ST. I even had the professor’s book.

Now, he runs electoral-vote.com

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:35:35pm

I was just listening to an interview with Werner Herzog. At the end one of the interviewers asked how it felt now that his voice is one of the most immediately recognizable voices in the world and Herzog said, “well it’s not just the voice, it’s the content; like in the movie I made about volcanoes I say ‘the magma below the earth’s surface is trying to blow up the earth and is indifferent to all life whether scurrying cockroach or human being’.”

It’s true. It’s the content.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:35:45pm

re: #159 Eric The Fruit Bat

I have to admit I like the look of that map although it would look a little bit better if it were all blue.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:35:58pm
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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:36:46pm

re: #159 Eric The Fruit Bat

I worked on the Minix 1.5 patch for the Atari ST. I even had the professor’s book.

Now, he runs electoral-vote.com

Had the book too. But I left Minix behind when Doctor Dobb’s began running the series by Lynne Jolitz and William Jolitz porting 4.3BSD-Reno and later 4.3BSD Net/2 to the 386.

These days, I have FreeBSD 12.1 on my old Dell laptop.

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:36:56pm

re: #146 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’m predicting way ahead of time, that tweet will not age well.

I’ll predict that at some point someone will publish a book with every tweet that Trump has posted, including all of the deleted ones, in chronological order, while he was president. Maybe include every tweet from the day he got elected. Include a graph like the corona-virus graphs that show how many tweets he posted per day. This book should exist just to have a full record of his stupidity, cruelty and insanity on twitter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:37:24pm

season opens for fakery

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:39:35pm

re: #160 Barefoot Grin

I was just listening to an interview with Werner Herzog. At the end one of the interviewers asked how it felt now that his voice is one of the most immediately recognizable voices in the world and Herzog said, “well it’s not just the voice, it’s the content; like in the movie I made about volcanoes I say ‘the magma below the earth’s surface is trying to blow up the earth and is indifferent to all life whether scurrying cockroach or human being’.”

It’s true. It’s the content.

Werner Herzog starred as himself in an episode of The Boondocks. And it was brilliant.

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Nojay UK  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:40:26pm

re: #143 A Three Hour Tour

Dolly’s bust is its own memorial.

I’ve seen California’s Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant described as the Dolly Parton Memorial.

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:40:46pm

re: #147 Belafon

Someone needs to explain to the BLM members that the boogaloos will turn on them like the storm troopers did the Jedi.

Why don’t they already know this? Do they think of themselves as brothers in gun ownership?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:41:35pm

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

Werner Herzog starred as himself in an episode of The Boondocks. And it was brilliant.

I’ll have to see that soon!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:41:49pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:41:52pm

re: #163 William Lewis

These days, I have FreeBSD 12.1 on my old Dell laptop.

That’s nice if you can get all the software you need to run on it. Sadly, I’m stuck with Android + Windows as clients I need do not exist in any variant of BSD.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:42:34pm

re: #169 Barefoot Grin

I’ll have to see that soon!

Here’s a preview:

The Boondocks S03E01 It’s a Black President Pt 4

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BigPapa  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:42:42pm

re: #170 Barefoot Grin

Imani Gandy will always be my first Twitter crush. That is why.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:43:10pm

re: #48 Decatur Deb

Trump did not create a statue garden. He created a committee to someday write a report about a statue garden.

Maybe we could make a statute garden somewhere, filled with tiny little statues of trmp, showing him breaking each and every law he has violated in office. They should be small enough that dogs can easily urinate and dumpacate on them. Put a little version of The Trmp Wall around it - but only around the same fraction of it as the real one covers of the entire US/Mexico border.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:45:37pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:45:46pm

re: #172 Dr Lizardo

Here’s a preview:

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Video

“it means, ‘this is the most depressing fucking kid I’ve ever met in my life’.” Ha!

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BigPapa  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:45:56pm

konaweb.com

I sold a good camera to the purveyor of Konaweb. Was surprised they went for it as everybody wants to do stuff cheap and I don’t sell cheapo stuff.

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:46:55pm

re: #168 stpaulbear

Why don’t they already know this? Do they think of themselves as brothers in gun ownership?

Enemy of my enemy blindness I’m betting.

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CBGB  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:47:07pm

Kid grows up in the slums of Rio. Takes some pictures.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:48:49pm
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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:50:07pm

Botanist misses ride and hangs out with kids and their single parent, then leaves

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:50:14pm

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plansbandc  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:51:42pm

SFjGE5jIQlDa9MsXg0Ee+iNSIxU0mNCZRryM/PNF1HDethNk3BcgIZU0IH18vCvM4/MxZIa+kQtlw4Qw2IfQicY0ElZMOdGATkMyyrOfxv66UPUWkQfHsBb+QzM9kM86yg8P6RfxT6yVgYP44Ls71wHvv72O54ndK/vfRGVoN/hsDM6esB0Hcru3EZB7cSo1FabenJ5Th+8+vyslQkPnZtv8o+N5e7zY

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:52:29pm

re: #171 Eric The Fruit Bat

That’s nice if you can get all the software you need to run on it. Sadly, I’m stuck with Android + Windows as clients I need do not exist in any variant of BSD.

It’s more difficult on FreeBSD. It’s mostly just to keep tabs on where the system is these days.

My Sun Blade 2500 Silver running Solaris 10 u11, though older and somewhat slower (single 1.6ghz Ultrasparc IIIi & 4gb) is actually far more useful. If I had to use it daily, I could if I popped the 2nd possible CPU and maxed the ram to 16gb. That said, my daily driver remains Windows because of the most recent browsers & the games my son and I play. Warframe is the most important and it will not run in WINE or in a VirtualBox VM. Hit’s the networking too hard.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:54:00pm

re: #178 William Lewis

Enemy of my enemy blindness I’m betting.

Or astroturf ratfucking. If three cities hold serious amateur firefights between now and Nov, only one orange motherfucker profits.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:57:21pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:59:18pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

This was posted earlier and it was obvious that they slowed down or fucked with the audio somehow. I heard it live as it happened so I knew it was bullshit the second I heard it. I’m glad my ears are still working properly, lol.

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jeffreyw  Jul 4, 2020 • 12:59:24pm

Passel o’Pickled Peppers

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thecommodore  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:00:21pm

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:00:43pm

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Or astroturf ratfucking. If three cities hold serious amateur firefights between now and Nov, only one orange motherfucker profits.

That’s on the bugboy side and is very likely what they’re up to.

The other were what I was thinking for my comment.

Yeah, imagine a running three sided firefight - cops <->BLM<->Bugboys in even one city… The right wing would be shrieking that it’s the German Revolution of 1919 again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:01:10pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:01:25pm

re: #189 thecommodore

Perfect.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:02:25pm

The lead from the statue was melted down and turned into musket balls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:02:40pm

re: #187 A Mom Anon

This was posted earlier and it was obvious that they slowed down or fucked with the audio somehow. I heard it live as it happened so I knew it was bullshit the second I heard it. I’m glad my ears are still working properly, lol.

I remember you saying that and I posted that for you

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Teddy's Person  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:03:04pm

re: #193 Teddy’s Person

The statue was put up in the first place to celebrate the repeal of the Stamp Act.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:03:56pm

re: #190 William Lewis

That’s on the bugboy side and is very likely what they’re up to.

The other were what I was thinking for my comment.

Yeah, imagine a running three sided firefight - cops <->BLM<->Bugboys in even one city… The right wing would be shrieking that it’s the German Revolution of 1919 again.

It’s early summer, and we’re about 2 dead violinists away from that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:08:33pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:08:42pm
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jaunte  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:09:10pm
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jaunte  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:09:57pm
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jaunte  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:10:34pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:11:00pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you. It stuck with me because I thought it was sweet that Joe called himself Jill Biden’s husband. JFC these idiots can’t do anything right, lol. If you’re going to be a propagandist at least put in some effort. Good help is so hard to find, sigh…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:11:03pm

Is this account real because Jesus Fuck it goes hard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:11:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:13:12pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:14:22pm

re: #188 jeffreyw

That looks like the last aquarium I had before I decided to stop having an aquarium.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:14:45pm
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BigPapa  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:15:16pm

re: #188 jeffreyw

That looks yums. With the mangos popping I have a buddy with habanaro, will sweet pickle them together with a little ginger.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:17:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:19:22pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:20:34pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thank you Arnold.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:21:26pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:21:46pm

re: #211 PhillyPretzel

Thank you Arnold.

How did he ever stumble into the GOP?

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BigPapa  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:22:08pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG I would smash that. I have a gnocchi problem and I admit it.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:23:16pm

re: #213 Decatur Deb

I have no idea but I will admit I agree with him. It is a darn shame that he cannot run for President.

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stpaulbear  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:23:21pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am big! It’s the servings that got small.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:25:12pm

A little 4th of July rocketry from the other side of the planet

About 35 minutes until the stream goes live

Rocket Lab - Pics Or It Didn’t Happen Launch

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:27:28pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

Now that’s an American.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:28:14pm

re: #213 Decatur Deb

How did he ever stumble into the GOP?

Saw him interviewed once. Apparently it was Nixon but yeah Arnold has always seemed like he was in the wrong party.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:28:19pm

re: #213 Decatur Deb

How did he ever stumble into the GOP?

Back then, the Democratic government in California wasn’t all that popular, and the GOP wasn’t overtly hateful.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:28:31pm

re: #36 Belafon

From the previous thread:

In the world I live in, a majority of the people around me would only wear their seatbelts if they would get in trouble otherwise. It’s the same with speed limits, which, btw, are being less followed due to obviously fewer cops on the roads.

One of my cousins tried to argue back in April that we didn’t need enforcement of masks and distancing because people will do the right thing. Guess what? I knew they wouldn’t and we know they won’t.

You’re also reaching on “mask it or casket.”

There are signs on doors that say masks required here in Rockwall. But, because of Abbotts previous orders, and no good way for stores to enforce them that didn’t before - you’re not going to get a teenager working at the gas station to make people wear them - about a third of the people I’m seeing aren’t wearing masks. That’s far better than before, but its not universal.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:30:04pm

re: #213 Decatur Deb

How did he ever stumble into the GOP?

This is from a speech he gave back in 2004:

I finally arrived here in 1968. What a special day it was. I remember I arrived here with empty pockets but full of dreams, full of determination, full of desire. The presidential campaign was in full swing. I remember watching the Nixon-Humphrey presidential race on TV. A friend of mine who spoke German and English translated for me. I heard Humphrey saying things that sounded like socialism, which I had just left. But then I heard Nixon speak. He was talking about free enterprise, getting the government off your back, lowering the taxes and strengthening the military. Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air. I said to my friend, I said, “What party is he?” My friend said, “He’s a Republican.” I said, “Then I am a Republican.” And I have been a Republican ever since.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:34:53pm

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

This is from a speech he gave back in 2004:

I finally arrived here in 1968. What a special day it was. I remember I arrived here with empty pockets but full of dreams, full of determination, full of desire. The presidential campaign was in full swing. I remember watching the Nixon-Humphrey presidential race on TV. A friend of mine who spoke German and English translated for me. I heard Humphrey saying things that sounded like socialism, which I had just left. But then I heard Nixon speak. He was talking about free enterprise, getting the government off your back, lowering the taxes and strengthening the military. Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air. I said to my friend, I said, “What party is he?” My friend said, “He’s a Republican.” I said, “Then I am a Republican.” And I have been a Republican ever since.

Yeah that’s what I saw too. Thing about Arnold is he’s not a so con nut job or hostile to environmentalism. I think he was over his head as California’s governor but I don’t think he’s a hateful person and he does get what it means to be an American better than a lot of people in his party.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:36:24pm

re: #223 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yes he does. It is a pity we do not have more like him.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:37:20pm

re: #222 Eclectic Cyborg

This is from a speech he gave back in 2004:

I finally arrived here in 1968. What a special day it was. I remember I arrived here with empty pockets but full of dreams, full of determination, full of desire. The presidential campaign was in full swing. I remember watching the Nixon-Humphrey presidential race on TV. A friend of mine who spoke German and English translated for me. I heard Humphrey saying things that sounded like socialism, which I had just left. But then I heard Nixon speak. He was talking about free enterprise, getting the government off your back, lowering the taxes and strengthening the military. Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air. I said to my friend, I said, “What party is he?” My friend said, “He’s a Republican.” I said, “Then I am a Republican.” And I have been a Republican ever since.

Bodybuilder Robbie Robertson has a different optnion of Arnold since he’s been one of the recipients of Arnold’s racist rants.

Robby Robinson, one of the most respected and well known of all
bodybuilders [a former Mr. America, Mr. World and Mr. Universe
titleholder], backs up claims made by fellow black bodybuilder Rick
Wayne.

No disrespect to fans of Arnold but Rick’s claim is in keeping with
my experiences with the man,” Robinson explains in a message.

Robinson says that Schwarzenegger repeatedly directed the term
“n!@@#r” at him.

groups.google.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:41:21pm

my fave part:

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:43:11pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

Has anyone got a definition of “antifa face painting” yet?

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thecommodore  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:43:54pm

re: #1 PhillyPretzel

kcuf pmurt

Mange de la merde et meurs, Trump!

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:44:12pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:45:44pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:45:47pm

re: #150 Charmingly Persistent

Well, ok, if you fundamentally change how police unions work they can stay. Right now no one has any power to rein them in. Citizen review boards make recommendations that are ingnored. Whistle-blower cops are forceably committed to mental institutions*. Police chiefs who try to fire bad cops are forced out instead.

If police unions do not have the power to overrule a oversight body, things would be a lot different. I am willing to try that.

* This happened - it’s an amazing story

That was when I decided police unions need to be nuked. I read that story. Then three days later listened to that prick who heads the NYPD Union ginning up the cops and demanding we respect them. That was my breaking point.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:46:39pm

re: #229 jaunte

Either that or he’s trying to look like the God-King Xerxes in 300.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:46:48pm

(Preview is my friend)
re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:49:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:55:41pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:58:46pm

This is one of those nights when I cannot find something to watch on PBS. Since I cannot find something to watch on TV I will be watching a movie or a mini series on my iPad.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:58:49pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

What happened? The SCOTUS have the southern States the ability to fuck with elections, same with WI. What happened here?

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William Lewis  Jul 4, 2020 • 1:59:28pm

re: #229 jaunte

It’s so badly done I’ve always presumed that out of some paranoia or the like, he must do it himself. _No_ professional could be that incompetent.

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:00:29pm

re: #238 William Lewis

Most likely; he’s probably too impatient for anyone else to put it on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:01:14pm

snowflakes, all of them

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:02:30pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sleeveless sans-culottes unite!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:03:50pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

snowflakes, all of them

I mean I know Trump has collectively made them even stupider than they were before but come on.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:04:02pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

English is not taught in Hamburger University.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:04:49pm

Seriously no one is afraid to say happy Independence Day. I’m really fucking tired of Republicans claiming stupid bullshit like this to incite their moronic base.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:05:11pm

LOL, I did not realize it was the Will County GOP.
I know those people!

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jaunte  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:05:13pm

Blessed are the poofreaders.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:05:34pm

re: #243 PhillyPretzel

English is not taught in Hamburger University.

Hamburder U. Oh and Trump’s hair is the color of American cheese that got left out in the sun too long.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:05:59pm
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jaunte  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:06:09pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:06:16pm

re: #236 PhillyPretzel

This is one of those nights when I cannot find something to watch on PBS. Since I cannot find something to watch on TV I will be watching a movie or a mini series on my iPad.

Here you go:

MST3K - S04E24 - (HD) Manos The Hands of Fate

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Jack Burton  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:06:41pm

re: #133 BigPapa

Boogaloo will use black folks/BLM as a shield, a free ticket to normalization.

The “Boogaloo Movement” is possibly more heterogeneous and decentralized than “Antifa” is. They aren’t all RWNJ White Nationalists. *MANY* are, but it’s way more complex than that and pretending it’s not is just as bad as RWNJs talking about Antifa like it’s an terrorist organization run by Soros that has a hierarchy and meetings.

From what I’ve read of people investigating them, the older and more organized groups are RWNJ Racist White Nationalists trying to start a race war. The younger and less organized groups are far less likely to be racists, many openly support BLM.

The only commonality to this is that they all use the term Boogaloo. They all think a civil war is imminent. They all have guns.

vox.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:06:43pm

Oh lord, here we go again…

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:07:33pm

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

Interesting. I already have the 1995 version of Paid and Prejudice playing.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:08:35pm

re: #249 jaunte

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He literally opened his campaign calling Mexican immigrants rapists. His entire political career is all about racism, sexism, & resentments.

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:11:54pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:14:06pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

This guy is apparently running against Lieu.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:14:23pm

re: #255 Teukka

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Racist attack at a gas station? Seen too many Bergman movies.

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BeachDem  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:14:52pm

re: #113 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mean, they were, but that’s also the point. The protests did not lead to a significant spike in cases.

And here’s some research to back that up.

Research Determines Protests Did Not Cause Spike In Coronavirus Cases

…researchers found “no evidence that urban protests reignited Covid-19 case growth during the more than three weeks following protest onset.”

The study’s conclusions are supported by Covid-19 testing data in many of the cities that were home to prevalent protesting. For instance, the Minneapolis Department of Health reported that more than 15,000 people were tested at centers set up in communities affected by the protests, and 1.7% of tests came back positive—below the statewide average of about 3.6%. According to the Washington Post, protest attendees in Minneapolis returned positivity rates of less than 1% and that “officials believe the low infection rates reflect that the protests were outside, that most people wore masks and that people spent most of their time in motion, circulating through the crowd.”

NPR reported last week that parties—not protests—are believed to have caused coronavirus spikes in Washington. “We’re finding that the social events and gatherings, these parties where people aren’t wearing masks, are our primary source of infection,” said Erika Lautenbach, a local county Health Department director.

forbes.com

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:15:33pm

re: #257 Decatur Deb

Racist attack at a gas station? Seen too many Bergman movies.

Gas station, pharmacies, local store, on the bus. I’ve witnessed 4 racist losers up close and personal this way…

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piratedan  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:16:07pm

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

in all honesty, for those that are new to MST3K, Manos is a terrible starter episode. Yes, it is indeed one of the five/ten worst movies of all time and while the crew does their best to have as much fun as they could with that pantheon of pain, it’s a very acquired taste (imho, ymmv). I would humbly suggest something like Cave Dwellers (how much O’Keffe is in this movie?) or even Space Mutiny or Pod People to start off with as the riffing commentary is just a tad more joyful/lighthearted and representative of the MST3K series… just sayin’.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:16:32pm

re: #256 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This guy is apparently running against Lieu.

[Embedded content]

Or Marco Holier than thou Rubio

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sagehen  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:16:50pm

re: #220 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Back then, the Democratic government in California wasn’t all that popular, and the GOP wasn’t overtly hateful.

I was a child in 1968 (a Republican child), but even in hindsight…

1968 Nixon was EPA, OSHA, Title IX, Title X
1968 Democrats was Richard J Daley and George Wallace.

I won’t apologize that it took me until Reagan to start backing away from the R’s.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:17:12pm
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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:18:35pm

re: #256 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:18:37pm

re: #260 piratedan

Heh, can’t disagree. Space Mutiny is a hoot.

MST3k.s08.e20 - Space Mutiny

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Thanos  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:19:24pm

Tonight we are grilling Bulgogi beef on the hibachi. That’s right we are going all multi-culti on the 4th, what could be more American than stealing good ideas from other cultures?

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Jay C  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:19:33pm

re: #211 PhillyPretzel

Thank you Arnold.

Yeah. Amazing how naturalized immigrants so often “get” America so much better than the “natives”…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:21:55pm

re: #262 sagehen

I was a child in 1968 (a Republican child), but even in hindsight…

1968 Nixon was EPA, OSHA, Title IX, Title X
1968 Democrats was Richard J Daley and George Wallace.

I won’t apologize that it took me until Reagan to start backing away from the R’s.

Yeah I get that. I think that Reagan was the R’s point of no return. Nixon was an asshole but policy wise quite good in many places. Ford wasn’t so bad either. Gave us Justice Stevens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:22:14pm
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sagehen  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:22:49pm

re: #223 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah that’s what I saw too. Thing about Arnold is he’s not a so con nut job or hostile to environmentalism. I think he was over his head as California’s governor but I don’t think he’s a hateful person and he does get what it means to be an American better than a lot of people in his party.

I dunno, it’s pretty hateful that it wasn’t until his kid with the housekeeper got old enough to start looking like him that he finally told Maria the truth. AND THE HOUSEKEEPER WAS STILL WORKING FOR THEM ALL THAT TIME!!!

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BeachDem  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:26:44pm

re: #153 Charmingly Persistent

They really don’t. Minneapolis had to dissolve their entire force to get out from under that union. If setting some guidelines worked, lots of Democratic cities (not all) would have already done that.

And this asshole is STILL the head of NYC PBA

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:28:48pm

re: #270 sagehen

I dunno, it’s pretty hateful that it wasn’t until his kid with the housekeeper got old enough to start looking like him that he finally told Maria the truth. AND THE HOUSEKEEPER WAS STILL WORKING FOR THEM ALL THAT TIME!!!

Had forgotten that, thanks.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:29:23pm

re: #268 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I get that. I think that Reagan was the R’s point of no return. Nixon was an asshole but policy wise quite good in many places. Ford wasn’t so bad either. Gave us Justice Stevens.

Nixon’s rapprochement with China was one of the greatest foreign policy successes of any US President. Likewise with Carter and the Camp David Accords.

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piratedan  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:29:31pm

re: #268 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

as I understood it, most of those “liberal agenda” items that Nixon signed into law were part of the devils bargain that he made with Congress. Giving him more of a free hand in foreign policy to be allowed less oversight regarding Vietnam. So while Nixon signed off on them, its not as if he championed them, but he was more than willing to take the credit.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:29:48pm

re: #265 Dr Lizardo

Heh, can’t disagree. Space Mutiny is a hoot.

[Embedded content]

Video

Don’t forget the best part of Space Mutiny.

MST3K - Space Mutiny - The many names of David Ryder

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:30:22pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:30:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:33:24pm
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Kafitrar  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:34:37pm

Apparently my house was from under the flight path of today’s military flyover. We had 4 groups fly over the house. I missed the first 2 because I couldn’t see them. Then I saw a B-1 bomber flanked by 3 F-15s. Then my son and I saw a B-52 go overhead. He said it was very loud.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:35:47pm

re: #274 piratedan

as I understood it, most of those “liberal agenda” items that Nixon signed into law were part of the devils bargain that he made with Congress. Giving him more of a free hand in foreign policy to be allowed less oversight regarding Vietnam. So while Nixon signed off on them, its not as if he championed them, but he was more than willing to take the credit.

I think you’re right.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:37:32pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards and stay healthy.

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:37:33pm

And teh tweet:

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:38:15pm

re: #252 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh lord, here we go again…

[Embedded content]

Short statement today by Trump?
Somewhere around fourteen words?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:40:17pm
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sagehen  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:41:20pm

re: #274 piratedan

as I understood it, most of those “liberal agenda” items that Nixon signed into law were part of the devils bargain that he made with Congress. Giving him more of a free hand in foreign policy to be allowed less oversight regarding Vietnam. So while Nixon signed off on them, its not as if he championed them, but he was more than willing to take the credit.

He ABSOLUTELY championed EPA. He even insisted they include a special provision that California is entitled whenever it wants to set much stricter emissions limits and air quality levels than the national standard everybody else is bound by.

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piratedan  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:42:34pm

re: #285 sagehen

that would make sense considering his background in California, ty for the correction.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:43:21pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:45:40pm

re: #286 piratedan

that would make sense considering his background in California, ty for the correction.

His memoirs are interesting. And I do think he was more empathetic than given credit for. Apparently he wanted to meet Johnny Cash because they had a shared tragedy- losing brothers as boys. Nixon really could have been a positive example of the GOP if he hadn’t been so insecure and if he hadn’t done the shady shit like what he did to sabotage the peace talks.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:50:25pm

Watching for the recipe:

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piratedan  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:51:03pm

re: #288 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

could be a case where the power of the position corrupted the man himself. Not gonna say that Nixon was a saint, but also open to understanding that he wasn’t totally irredeemable, after all, even Nixon could see the writing on the wall and resigned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:51:49pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:53:02pm

re: #290 piratedan

could be a case where the power of the position corrupted the man himself. Not gonna say that Nixon was a saint, but also open to understanding that he wasn’t totally irredeemable, after all, even Nixon could see the writing on the wall and resigned.

Could well be. And yeah he did resign thankfully which Trump will never do.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2020 • 2:53:40pm
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