Crowded House: “Fall at Your Feet” (Live From Home, 2020)

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In the spirit of musical comradeship through isolation, us fellas in Crowded House have created a live version of Fall At Your Feet, captured here in the making at our respective home set ups. Some of the sentiment in this song struck me as being resonant now in a different way than I first imagined.

We have enjoyed favor and felt welcome in the United States for many years. There is a deep connection to and appreciation of all that America has done for the evolution of popular music, at its best a transformative art form, now perhaps more needed than ever. In particular, we are inspired by the magnificence of black culture. We owe a huge debt to the African American artists whose creative expressions have elevated us with magic, passion and beauty while living with prejudice and injustice that we, as white men, can only imagine and have never had to suffer.

We have more to give and other privileges to repay, but right now in support of this groundswell for justice against a racist system, we will direct all of the income for this song for the next year to causes that assist in keeping the momentum for massive and meaningful change, to address this glaring inequity in our society.

Just a beginning, more to follow… with love and respect, 

Crowded House

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195 comments

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stpaulbear  Jul 5, 2020 • 10:30:55am

Screw tech-libertarian shitheads!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 5, 2020 • 10:33:24am

Yay! New post and I can read the comments. Still having shutdown issues once the comments hit 100-150. If I jump into a thread early and don’t get logged off, I can hang longer than that. Onward…

Last night was horrid here in the Atlanta burbs. So many at home fireworks that by 10 last night I couldn’t go outside. The whole area was enveloped in smoke from fireworks and I’m allergic to sulfur. I took Cleo out to pee and was coughing and choking for the next 2 hours. It sounded like a war zone outside, from every direction. Fireworks are legal here with no enforced rules, but this year is by far the worst in the 30 yrs I’ve lived here. 25 yrs at this location. We usually hang out at the pool and enjoy a late dinner outside, this year it was not possible. But their rights trump(pun intended) mine. I hate it here. Fuck these people and their orange cat anus mouth of a president.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 10:35:31am

A 21 year old Penn state student living off campus died on June 20th from Covid-19.

m.dailykos.com

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 10:45:15am

Hearing everyone’s fireworks stories makes me glad I live in a town where they are illegal. Although, I am serenaded daily by the outdoor gun range that’s about a mile from me (as the crow flies).

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 10:50:27am

re: #4 Teddy’s Person

Hearing everyone’s fireworks stories makes me glad I live in a town where they are illegal. Although, I am serenaded daily by the outdoor gun range that’s about a mile from me (as the crow flies).

They’re supposed to be illegal here, but that requires that the cops do something.

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William Lewis  Jul 5, 2020 • 10:54:47am

re: #5 Belafon

They’re supposed to be illegal here, but that requires that the cops do something.

Tell them minorities are shooting them off. You’ll get a SWAT team to stop the fireworks…

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plansbandc  Jul 5, 2020 • 10:58:31am

It’s legal to purchase all class C fireworks here, but it’s not legal to shoot off anything that flies or booms, so basically only fountains and sparklers are legal to light.

So how do you stop the shooting off of fireworks when your entire neighborhood is shooting them off?

Not happening.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:01:28am

re: #4 Teddy’s Person

I’m going to make some calls this week about this shit. I first have to find out if it’s a county or state level law that allows this. You would think at the very least it would be a fire safety issue. I was just astonished that this went on for five fucking hours. Non stop and everywhere. I can’t even get how this was enjoyable for anyone. When I say the whole area, I mean for a few miles. My son went to get gas 4 miles from the house and he said it was the same cloud of burning crap. That’s some bullshit.

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jeffreyw  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:05:23am

Sammich Pr0n - Denver Omelet on a Bun

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William Lewis  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:05:54am

re: #8 A Mom Anon

It’s actually illegal here but no one stops it. The majority are set off by tourists and, this year especially, they aren’t going to mess with the money flow. Said tourists buy the good stuff on the Rez and they go back to their cabins and hotels and make noise, smoke and all the rest. I just sit back and hope to not hear either screams of pain or ambulance sirens.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:06:09am

kcuf pmurt

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:07:26am

re: #8 A Mom Anon

I’m going to make some calls this week about this shit. I first have to find out if it’s a county or state level law that allows this. You would think at the very least it would be a fire safety issue. I was just astonished that this went on for five fucking hours. Non stop and everywhere. I can’t even get how this was enjoyable for anyone. When I say the whole area, I mean for a few miles. My son went to get gas 4 miles from the house and he said it was the same cloud of burning crap. That’s some bullshit.

Around here, different towns have different rules. I think the county permits fireworks but most town don’t. I heard fireworks in the distance, probably from people who don’t live in an incorporated town. My apartment complex issues a notice every 4th reminding people that fireworks are illegal and to call the police if there are any violations.

Several years ago I lived in Utah. Pioneer Days was toward the end of June (the 24th, IIRC), and fireworks were a nightly occurrence for about 3 weeks, from Pioneer Days until they used up all the fireworks in the days following July 4th. One of the many reasons I’m glad I don’t live there anymore.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:08:50am

Patient Teddy being patient.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:10:22am

Last night there were fireworks all over. Normally all one has to do is look in the direction of the local playground or recreation center and watch the display. Last night I just looked out my bedroom window and the whole southern sky was lit up.

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mmmirele  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:12:04am

re: #12 Teddy’s Person

Around here, different towns have different rules. I think the county permits fireworks but most town don’t. I heard fireworks in the distance, probably from people who don’t live in an incorporated town. My apartment complex issues a notice every 4th reminding people that fireworks are illegal and to call the police if there are any violations.

Several years ago I lived in Utah. Pioneer Days was toward the end of June (the 24th, IIRC), and fireworks were a nightly occurrence for about 3 weeks, from Pioneer Days until they used up all the fireworks in the days following July 4th. One of the many reasons I’m glad I don’t live there anymore.

Actually, July 4th is the first holiday…but Pioneer Day is July 24th and is the bigger holiday. When I lived in Utah, in 1999 there was a scandal that there wasn’t going to be a 4th of July parade because *horror of horrors* it was on a Sunday. A radio DJ and others threw together a halfway decent 4th of July holiday parade, but if I needed a reminder of how *crazy* living in Utah was, that was it.

ETA: My neighbors set off tons of fireworks. Oddly, my 11 YO cat was completely unperturbed, while I kept checking out the window to make sure nothing was on fire.

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A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:18:18am

Fireworks other than sparklers are illegal in our area. However, a short trip to Indiana will net all the fireworks desired. Most major roads are lined with firework stores as soon as you cross the state line.

At one time, the police made an attempt to limit bringing fireworks from Indiana, but it was primarily a PR effort with no real teeth.

Folks have been shooting off fireworks for days, but yesterday was especially bad. It pretty much started early morning and never stopped all night. I try to ignore it, but booms that shake the house at 2-3 a.m. are hard to ignore.

The police did apparently run off a group that was very close and firing what sounded like M-80s at 1 a.m.. Appreciated that, but they usually don’t do much to enforce the anti-fireworks laws.

I do wonder how many drunks are missing body parts today.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:23:46am

re: #15 mmmirele

Actually, July 4th is the first holiday…but Pioneer Day is July 24th and is the bigger holiday. When I lived in Utah, in 1999 there was a scandal that there wasn’t going to be a 4th of July parade because *horror of horrors* it was on a Sunday. A radio DJ and others threw together a halfway decent 4th of July holiday parade, but if I needed a reminder of how *crazy* living in Utah was, that was it.

ETA: My neighbors set off tons of fireworks. Oddly, my 11 YO cat was completely unperturbed, while I kept checking out the window to make sure nothing was on fire.

I lived there a couple of years and never could get used to most things being closed on Sundays, especially since Sunday is my traditional day of errands. I liked my students, but my Mormon neighbors viewed me with suspicion. A never-married woman of a certain age was viewed as suspect.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:29:33am

The fireworks started last night at about 9:30 and went on for 2 and a half hours. The good news is that the family across the street were shooting professional-grade fireworks in their backyard so we got to watch a very nice show from the front porch.

At midnight all the noise stopped. Just STOPPED.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:30:05am

Brandon Tenold just posted another of his reviews - this time, the Canadian slasher flick Happy Birthday to Me.

Brandon’s Cult Movie Reviews: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME

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BeachDem  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:30:50am

re: #16 A Cranky One

Fireworks other than sparklers are illegal in our area. However, a short trip to Indiana will net all the fireworks desired. Most major roads are lined with firework stores as soon as you cross the state line.

At one time, the police made an attempt to limit bringing fireworks from Indiana, but it was primarily a PR effort with no real teeth.

Folks have been shooting off fireworks for days, but yesterday was especially bad. It pretty much started early morning and never stopped all night. I try to ignore it, but booms that shake the house at 2-3 a.m. are hard to ignore.

The police did apparently run off a group that was very close and firing what sounded like M-80s at 1 a.m.. Appreciated that, but they usually don’t do much to enforce the anti-fireworks laws.

I do wonder how many drunks are missing body parts today.

Well, “y’all”…

South Carolina has some of the most liberal fireworks laws in the nation. Stands across the state sell pyrotechnic bricks that launch a dozen or more shells, setting off explosions that can rival a small town’s.

The booms were continuous last night.

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stpaulbear  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:32:00am

In my neighborhood, fireworks have been a nightly occurrence since before Memorial day. Some of them have been pretty loud and pretty late on weeknights. I’ve called the non-911 police dispatcher a couple of times (the dispatcher could clearly hear the explosions over my phone), but the cops really don’t do anything about it because fireworks are legal up to a point in MN and WI (people will cross the borders to get what they want). Some asshole is always sure to nightly blow of a couple of loud ones every half hour or so until after midnight.

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stpaulbear  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:32:56am

re: #13 Teddy’s Person

Looks like Teddy is wired for sound.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:34:03am

re: #18 The Pie Overlord!

In my neighborhood the fireworks started around 8:30 PM and it went on until 1:00 AM. I hope tonight is quiet. Most likely we will have fireworks again.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:37:46am

Afternoon Lizardim from the hot, humid, and soon to be rainy (I hope) wild north country. Encouraging news all around - new infection % and new infection counts are both down over the weekend, despite maintaining testing; and for once, masks were finally spotted at my church, albeit on a Sunday where not many were in attendance due to a large part of our membership being away at the lake for the weekend. How go things among the lizardfolk on this post-July 4 recovery day?

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NetworkKed  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:40:18am

When I grew up in Indiana, basically only burnables (sparklers, fountains, similar) were legal. When I was in college, they changed the laws so you could basically buy anything… if you signed a form stating you wouldn’t set it off in Indiana.

Yeah, that worked well.

So when we hit peak Republican locally around 2006 (so Pence was the one who made it big, but the governor who really fucked everything up was Mitch Daniels, whose other greatest hits included destroying our time zone and selling the toll road) they seem to have basically made everything legal. So this weekend has been a continuous racket of explosions and detonations, and at a certain point I’m pretty sure someone was blasting a shotgun into the air.

Fucking Republicans.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:42:22am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:43:37am

re: #25 NetworkKed

My dad and I trained as pyrotechnicians when I was in college and still lived in Indiana, to help run a show for a town that didn’t have one. He has a 3” mortar that he would occasionally shoot off on July 4. He got together with a new redneck wingnut friend to shoot off another show this year, which I’m sure was great to watch, and at least he’s trained, but yeesh.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:45:18am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:51:31am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:52:52am

re: #2 A Mom Anon

Yay! New post and I can read the comments. Still having shutdown issues once the comments hit 100-150. If I jump into a thread early and don’t get logged off, I can hang longer than that. Onward…

Last night was horrid here in the Atlanta burbs. So many at home fireworks that by 10 last night I couldn’t go outside. The whole area was enveloped in smoke from fireworks and I’m allergic to sulfur. I took Cleo out to pee and was coughing and choking for the next 2 hours. It sounded like a war zone outside, from every direction. Fireworks are legal here with no enforced rules, but this year is by far the worst in the 30 yrs I’ve lived here. 25 yrs at this location. We usually hang out at the pool and enjoy a late dinner outside, this year it was not possible. But their rights trump(pun intended) mine. I hate it here. Fuck these people and their ****orange cat anus mouth of a president.****

+1 for that

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:52:53am

Fireworks were illegal in Michigan when I was a kid, people went down to Indiana to buy them. You could also buy fireworks in Canada but you couldn’t bring them back to the U.S. you had to shoot them off in Canada. Made for a kind of weird 4th of July.

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Cheechako  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:54:20am

The “Battle For the Mendenhall Valley” continued for the second night last night. Action started before noon both days. This year was different from previous years. In prior years most of the fireworks were color-full displays including many commercial star burst type explosions. This year the majority of the fireworks were just extremely loud explosions.

This year the City approved and then cancelled a commercial type display which was to be held over the channel. It was cancelled because they felt people would’t maintain the 6 foot distancing rules.

A new twist this year was the local Native Corporation imported a couple of shipping containers loaded with fireworks so they were readily available. I’m read that prices were double over the prices down south. The only kink was customers had to drive 20 miles out of town to purchase them. The Corporation had to set up their fire-works stand on land they owned to prevent any control by the City over their activities.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:57:00am

re: #26 Charles Johnson

Perpetuating white supremacy is pretty much all the GOP has left these days, that and Christian ethnonationalism (which dovetails with their white supremacist ideology).

We must see their intensifying efforts at voter suppression for what it is - a blatant maneuver to create an apartheid state in which their white, Christian ethnonationalist base exclusively wields all political and socio-economic power.

That is the future the Republican Party has in mind for the United States.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:57:59am
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A Mom Anon  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:58:05am

Too many idiots think freedom, in the context of the USA and our legal rights means I CAN DO ANYTHING I WANT. Every fucking time the media interviews one of these shitmuffins they say the same thing: It’s a free country and I can do whatever I want. That’s a huge part of the challenges we face going forward. I don’t know if it can be fixed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:58:40am

re: #35 A Mom Anon

Too many idiots think freedom, in the context of the USA and our legal rights means I CAN DO ANYTHING I WANT. Every fucking time the media interviews one of these shitmuffins they say the same thing: It’s a free country and I can do whatever I want. That’s a huge part of the challenges we face going forward. I don’t know if it can be fixed.

To use a phrase a friend used on a Facebook post I made similar to this, “toxic individualism.”

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 11:58:45am

In Martinez, California

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:00:04pm

re: #34 DodgerFan1988

Maybe it is because I am from Philly that I think Patti LaBelle is a good singer.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:01:51pm

Fireworks are illegal in NY state, and if they catch you bringing fireworks into the state they land on you hard - if you’ve got them in your car, they’ll arrest you and confiscate your car.

But that barely stops people. It’s a pretty short drive out to PA, where you can buy as many fireworks as you can cram into your vehicle. Fireworks have been going off for weeks around here, but last night went way off the scale - in my brother in law’s neighborhood on the Nassau-Queens border, they started in earnest around dusk and were still going nuts when we left around 11:30.

Not just diddly little peashooters, either. A lot of people were shooting off pro-grade stuff. Some dudes out in PA are probably still counting the money.

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A Cranky One  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:01:58pm

re: #35 A Mom Anon

Too many idiots think freedom, in the context of the USA and our legal rights means I CAN DO ANYTHING I WANT. Every fucking time the media interviews one of these shitmuffins they say the same thing: It’s a free country and I can do whatever I want.* That’s a huge part of the challenges we face going forward. I don’t know if it can be fixed.

*Offer good for privileged whites only.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:02:49pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:05:56pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:06:03pm

re: #27 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My dad and I trained as pyrotechnicians when I was in college and still lived in Indiana, to help run a show for a town that didn’t have one. He has a 3” mortar that he would occasionally shoot off on July 4. He got together with a new redneck wingnut friend to shoot off another show this year, which I’m sure was great to watch, and at least he’s trained, but yeesh.

Hopefully not with alcoholic refreshments. We had fireworks in our town for Heritage Days (mid-August). One year, my friend was watching the fireworks; he had a local TV show and was filming them. He was watching the pyro crew set up. They were drinking. He screened the video for the Fire Marshall. That crew was not back the next year.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:06:14pm

re: #38 PhillyPretzel

Maybe it is because I am from Philly that I think Patti LaBelle is a good singer.

‘Down The Aisle’ with the Bluebells was an object of awe when I was little. I couldn’t believe a human could pour that much emotion into a song. I only later learned that it was just a regional hit and nobody knew who Patti Labelle was until the Labelle days.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:07:47pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:08:51pm

re: #45 Teddy’s Person

That sounds a little backward to me.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:08:55pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:09:56pm

November seems like a million years away.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:10:03pm

re: #35 A Mom Anon

Too many idiots think freedom, in the context of the USA and our legal rights means I CAN DO ANYTHING I WANT.

I had the same thought yesterday seeing video of the people marching “against masks” in Austin yesterday. They were ready to fight people wearing masks, which just made them look insane.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:10:51pm

re: #45 Teddy’s Person

She’s deranged. Only two people died of Ebola on American soil. Over 120,000 people have died of the Coronavirus after Trump called it a hoax and even now refuses to wear a mask or encourage others to do so. Trump has blood on his hands.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:11:06pm

re: #46 PhillyPretzel

That sounds a little backward to me.

Republican math 4 > 132,477

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:12:03pm

re: #47 Patricia Kayden

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Uday and Qusay are following in their racist footsteps.

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BeachDem  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:14:02pm

re: #34 DodgerFan1988

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KW Miller per Ballotpedia (all you need to know):

Is there a book, essay, film, or something else you would recommend to someone who wants to understand your political philosophy?

Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:16:12pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:16:33pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:18:04pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:19:22pm

Karen of the Day

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:22:10pm

Republicans are all about hierarchy, so it’s submissives all the way to the top. And they’re so subconsciously angry living like that they take it out on anyone who’s not perceived to be ‘above’ them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:22:26pm

Antifa pwning all the wingnuts by not showing up anywhere.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:25:49pm

Georege Takei is a national treasure.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:25:57pm

re: #56 Patricia Kayden

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:26:34pm

re: #43 Sherlock Hound

Hopefully not with alcoholic refreshments. We had fireworks in our town for Heritage Days (mid-August). One year, my friend was watching the fireworks; he had a local TV show and was filming them. He was watching the pyro crew set up. They were drinking. He screened the video for the Fire Marshall. That crew was not back the next year.

My dad is a lifelong teetotaler, unlike myself (shhh), so no, it’s all by the book and aboveboard. He’s only been in the most remote danger on one shoot, and that was because the dumbass loading the shot in question was in a hurry.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:26:43pm

re: #57 The Pie Overlord!

Karen of the Day

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Is she going to be ok when male power decides he wants her?

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:26:55pm
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dat_said  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:27:35pm

re: #59 The Pie Overlord!

Antifa pwning all the wingnuts by not showing up anywhere.

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I’m just waiting for these antiQ folks who are pwning the wingnuts to start rumors that these have actually been deep state FBI stings and that license plates and cell phone usage has been recorded.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:27:49pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:28:46pm

re: #56 Patricia Kayden

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When you say added you mean put back 5 of the 30+m lost under trump, right?

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:29:56pm

re: #67 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

When you say added you mean put back 5 of the 30+m lost under trump, right?

You libs and your damn math again. ///

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:32:38pm

Trump was put on probation on March 30th and needed to have followups until he got back in Putin’s good graces.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:34:16pm

re: #69 Teddy’s Person

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Trump was put on probation on March 30th and needed to have followups until he got back in Putin’s good graces.

Heh. Trump is trying to figure out how to respond to the virus here the same way that Putin has in Russia. Trump’s jealous that he can’t kill off thousands of people and get to be president for life.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:34:43pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:36:21pm

re: #71 The Pie Overlord!

It is overkill. Patriotism that punches one in the face.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:36:44pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:36:53pm

re: #72 PhillyPretzel

It is overkill. Patriotism that punches one in the face.

The living embodiment of “America, FUCK YEAH!”

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:38:00pm

Total insanity.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:39:05pm

Scottsdale, Arizona.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:39:08pm

😀😁😂🤣🤣

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:39:12pm

re: #66 Teddy’s Person

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Good thing the internets are forever

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:39:59pm

Infuriating thread. The police escorted him out. Why didn’t they arrest the White Supremacists?

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plansbandc  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:41:02pm

Got a couple of the most violent comments removed from the group site on FB. Called out a concern troll (WOW is he concerned) and told an idiot that antifa isn’t an organization.

Probably gonna get the boot. :D

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plansbandc  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:41:19pm

re: #77 Teddy’s Person

Or Mexico for that matter.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:42:51pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:43:36pm

re: #64 jaunte

There’s no actual ‘culture war’, is there? It’s just a new way of describing disagreements between people who hate racism & discrimination & people who love it. Meanwhile, ‘woke’ has just replaced ‘politically correct’ as the most pretentious way of saying ‘not a massive bigot’.

It’s also a disagreement over the meaning and interpretation of history.

Those of us who understand that the complex history of the USA is filled with both good and bad and recognize it as such. We don’t shy away from the darker corners of our nation’s past and know that it must be taught dispassionately and objectively, not to condemn, but to enlighten us as a nation, so that we don’t repeat the mistakes of our forefathers.

And then there are those who insist on embracing only a mythologized version of American history and will not tolerate any illumination or mention of the more tragic and disturbing chapters of our history as they believe than any criticism, no matter how instructive it may be, is a blanket refutation, a denial, of what our nation’s meaning and purpose is.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:46:24pm

re: #82 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

In case anyone missed the moment or would like to revisit.

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BigPapa  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:47:19pm

re: #67 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

so, despite lockdowns and liberal hoaxes the economy added 5m jobs?

You don’t say.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:51:14pm

Too bad the police didn’t have the leeway to make that woman reassemble the Target mask display.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:52:00pm

I really hope I’m wrong about this, but it looks like my prediction that the Russian bounty story would be over by this past Friday has come true. I haven’t heard a word about it in three days.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:52:27pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:53:00pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:55:33pm

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 5, 2020 • 12:57:09pm

re: #74 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The living embodiment of “America, FUCK YEAH!”

“FUCK YOU!”

FTFY!
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stpaulbear  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:09:56pm

re: #86 jaunte

Too bad the police didn’t have the leeway to make that woman reassemble the Target mask display.

They probably had to take it all out of stock due to potential contamination. If they press charges against her they can total up the cost for every mask on that rack. I hope they do.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:15:59pm
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:16:34pm

Canada Karen has a snit because someone told her that she has to wear a mask to enter a hospital.

You know, to protect the health workers, the other patients, and herself.

But her rights were somehow infringed?

Ratio Karen is the worst kind of Karen, and she’s still at it.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:16:36pm
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Mattand  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:17:15pm

re: #2 A Mom Anon

Yay! New post and I can read the comments. Still having shutdown issues once the comments hit 100-150. If I jump into a thread early and don’t get logged off, I can hang longer than that. Onward…

Last night was horrid here in the Atlanta burbs. So many at home fireworks that by 10 last night I couldn’t go outside. The whole area was enveloped in smoke from fireworks and I’m allergic to sulfur. I took Cleo out to pee and was coughing and choking for the next 2 hours. It sounded like a war zone outside, from every direction. Fireworks are legal here with no enforced rules, but this year is by far the worst in the 30 yrs I’ve lived here. 25 yrs at this location. We usually hang out at the pool and enjoy a late dinner outside, this year it was not possible. But their rights trump(pun intended) mine. I hate it here. Fuck these people and their orange cat anus mouth of a president.

We had a similar experience last night here in South Jersey. Apparently NJ has relaxed fireworks sales laws over the last the few years. My partner also commented that she had read that a lot of fireworks display companies were practically giving away munitions that were going to go to waste, since they weren’t be hired for any shows.

We didn’t have the smoke issues you had, but goddamn; it really did sound like a war zone. If there are any vets with PTSD in my neighborhood, they had a bad night last night. I’m thankful our dog does’t give two shits about fireworks noise, although one or two were loud enough that even he was like “WTF?”

I know I’m channeling Abe Simpson here, but I’m seriously thinking about raising the issue next town council meeting. We basically had borderline professional grade fireworks being set off by untrained amateurs in a residential neighborhood. I really fail to see how that is not considered a major hazard.

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Mattand  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:19:40pm

re: #95 Ace-o-aces

Paraphrasing something I heard somewhere else (probably here), but as soon as the Lincoln Project settles on a Republican who will ban abortion and limit voting to old, rich white people without appearing like a drooling maniac, they are going to turn Biden and any Democrat within spitting distance like a pack of rabid dogs.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:29:39pm

re: #97 Mattand

Paraphrasing something I heard somewhere else (probably here), but as soon as the Lincoln Project settles on a Republican who will ban abortion and limit voting to old, rich white people without appearing like a drooling maniac, they are going to turn Biden and any Democrat within spitting distance like a pack of rabid dogs.

Yeah, it was here.

Lincoln Project has endorsed Biden.

Do you really believe that George Conway and Rick Wilson have any juice at all in the GOP now, let alone picking their candidate? Seriously?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:32:25pm
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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:34:27pm

re: #95 Ace-o-aces

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Considering the number of ads they’ve produced, I they’ve gotten and spent more than $1.4M

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:34:44pm

re: #2 A Mom Anon

Yay! New post and I can read the comments. Still having shutdown issues once the comments hit 100-150. If I jump into a thread early and don’t get logged off, I can hang longer than that. Onward…

It’s not just you. Same thing has been happening to me for the last week or so.
I finally gave up trying get through the last thread. Could never get even halfway through it.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:35:54pm

re: #97 Mattand

Paraphrasing something I heard somewhere else (probably here), but as soon as the Lincoln Project settles on a Republican who will ban abortion and limit voting to old, rich white people without appearing like a drooling maniac, they are going to turn Biden and any Democrat within spitting distance like a pack of rabid dogs.

The Lincoln project has not only said that Trump needs to go, but that the GOP needs to lose so badly that they have to rethink what they have been doing.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:36:42pm

re: #100 Belafon

Considering the number of ads they’ve produced, I they’ve gotten and spent more than $1.4M

I believe they raised that much in the 24 hours after the ‘Mourning in America’ spot dropped.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:39:15pm
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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:39:42pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not just you. Same thing has been happening to me for the last week or so.
I finally gave up trying get through the last thread. Could never get even halfway through it.

Charles mentioned using Spy mode, but to me that’s like sitting at the little kids table on Thanksgiving.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:40:26pm

re: #105 Shropshire Slasher

Charles mentioned using Spy mode, but to me that’s like sitting at the little kids table on Thanksgiving.

Ouch.

(For the record, I use Spy mode exclusively. It’s just personal preference, I find it works better for the way I participate in threads.)

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:40:53pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

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Garrison’s mental state is clearly degrading. And he never had a whole lot to work with in the first place.

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nines09  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:40:56pm

Happy July 5th. Hotter than a 2 dollar pistol here. I think they blew up a few grand of explosives here. Pros set off about an hour of real deal blow your windows out, move the liquid in your eyes shit Friday night.
8 houses up.
Cooper not like.
Less last night.
I always liked fireworks but I know it shakes some pets. I had a few sources in my time that sold what was called half sticks.
Nope.
More than that.
Put an abandoned car a foot on the air with one once.
I no longer tempt the fates.
Cooper will survive. New world after all.
Got up to 100 plus Friday and Saturday.
Balmy 93 today in my private back yard world.
Speaking of the Coop, he loves water and likes the pool. Even after he fell in a few times and acted as if the pool came after him.
He’s a cupcake.
And a chewing machine. He just flipped my hat over, and grabbed my swim goggles……
Quick smart ass mutt…..
Speaking of…

Ahhhhh
“I’m trying to nap here fella….”

Be well.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:49:47pm

Fuck this asshole with rusty chainsaws.

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Mattand  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:50:22pm

re: #98 makeitstop

Yeah, it was here.

Lincoln Project has endorsed Biden.

Do you really believe that George Conway and Rick Wilson have any juice at all in the GOP now, let alone picking their candidate? Seriously?

No I don’t. That’s not the point. My point is that while it’s nice to nominally see Republicans taking shots at Trump, they’re still Republicans. They still believe women should be turned into baby factories, cops should be allowed to shoot whoever they want, and that voting should be as difficult as possible.

The ads are entertaining and if they put Trump on tilt, so much the better. Maybe they’ll sway any fucking idiot independent voters. But these guys are a novelty act and hopefully people aren’t treating them more than that.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:50:44pm

Twitter gets weird. Currently trending:

QAnon (trending with Bruno Mars)

Umm…wut?

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A Mom Anon  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:51:14pm

re: #92 stpaulbear

They looked to be the washable ones. But still that little shit needs to have to pay for tearing up the display and get some fucking court mandated therapy. Let her bitch about her rights to a judge. I hate these fucking people. She did it to make a scene and shit on retail workers. She even said she couldn’t wait to do this, she had been waiting to do it and put the whole mess on instagram.

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Mattand  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:51:23pm

re: #102 Belafon

The Lincoln project has not only said that Trump needs to go, but that the GOP needs to lose so badly that they have to rethink what they have been doing.

I was not aware of that.

I also don’t believe them. I will believe them when they actually accomplish something of that nature.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:52:53pm

I know Geenwald has always been like this to a certain extent, but lately he has become increasingly…Greenwaldy I guess would be the word.

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NetworkKed  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:53:22pm

re: #100 Belafon

Considering the number of ads they’ve produced, I they’ve gotten and spent more than $1.4M

Twenty years ago, you’d be absolutely right. You’d need a studio, and a whole team of videographers and technical help, and the way you’d get national attention would be by making massive media buys.

But today… Lincoln looks like a couple of really good internet trolls and a couple more guys with hot video editing skills. They were turning stuff around on the Friday event before the speech was over - that’s not a large operation, that’s just confident expertise. And that’s about all you need these days. A few good computers and the skills. Posting an ad on Youtube and Twitter costs nothing. Once people have started listening to you, getting their attention costs nothing.

My understanding is they’ve only really purchased ad time with the deliberate intent of shoving their work in Trump’s face. That costs money but this early in the year not large amounts. Lincoln isn’t trying to win the election, it’s just direct personal trolling.

That’s why their work is so punchy. It’s personal assassination.

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BigPapa  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:55:12pm

Greenwald is a trashmonster as the most deranged Trumpet.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:57:22pm
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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:58:50pm

re: #111 makeitstop

Twitter gets weird. Currently trending:

QAnon (trending with Bruno Mars)

Umm…wut?

Here’s something I don’t understand about the trending algorithm…

As soon as I posted the above, I went back to look at the tweets. The trend was gone.

But the ‘Fire Island’ trend that I mentioned this morning has been among the trending topics since last night - with no new tweets on the page for a few hours now.

Is this a little Twitter chicanery, keeping that topic trending because it concerns knucklehead behavior by NYC gays? Curious.

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Cheechako  Jul 5, 2020 • 1:59:31pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:01:17pm

re: #118 makeitstop

“Trends” are one of the products that Twitter sells. Many “trends” are custom rolled for the viewer. Other “trends” are just straight up advertising to the world/country in which the viewer resides.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:01:48pm

re: #115 NetworkKed

Twenty years ago, you’d be absolutely right. You’d need a studio, and a whole team of videographers and technical help, and the way you’d get national attention would be by making massive media buys.

But today… Lincoln looks like a couple of really good internet trolls and a couple more guys with hot video editing skills. They were turning stuff around on the Friday event before the speech was over - that’s not a large operation, that’s just confident expertise. And that’s about all you need these days. A few good computers and the skills. Posting an ad on Youtube and Twitter costs nothing. Once people have started listening to you, getting their attention costs nothing.

My understanding is they’ve only really purchased ad time with the deliberate intent of shoving their work in Trump’s face. That costs money but this early in the year not large amounts. Lincoln isn’t trying to win the election, it’s just direct personal trolling.

That’s why their work is so punchy. It’s personal assassination.

The LP videos are all the work of one video guy - a guy namedBen Howe.

Worked for the Tea Party. But I don’t remember much of his work for them.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:02:34pm

re: #115 NetworkKed

You still have to buy airtime. And they don’t get the breaks of a candidate.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:05:03pm

re: #119 Cheechako

Surrounded? Turn off the radar?
en.wikipedia.org

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:09:20pm

re: #114 Ace-o-aces

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I know Geenwald has always been like this to a certain extent, but lately he has become increasingly…Greenwaldy I guess would be the word.

I would love for a forensic accountant to go through Greenwald’s finances to track down now much Russian funding he receives, if any.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:14:49pm

re: #109 teleskiguy

Can one of you Tweeters please ask Glenn why Trump has yet to condemn Russia for placing bounties on the heads of our troops? Does he think it’s normal for a President to say nothing to Putin when our Intelligence agencies have revealed that Putin is paying the Taliban to kill U.S. soldiers?

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BigPapa  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:15:23pm

The horseshoe left is merely sociopaths that want to be looked upon as special, like libertarians. The motivations and desired outcome is pretty much the same.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:17:08pm

re: #108 nines09

Cooper living his best life! 😍

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:22:24pm

re: #123 Belafon

You still have to buy airtime. And they don’t get the breaks of a candidate.

So I went and looked, and a place like Fox chargers anout $11k for a 30 second ad, probably more for special places. So, they’d have to run the ads about 100 times to spend $1.4m.

I’m sure looking at their finances would turn up some things that people who don’t like them would question. Doesn’t bother me because they’re going after Trump and it’s not my money.

I’m really just going to enjoy the Lincoln Project going after Trump and the GOP. And just to point out that they’re not just going after Trump, here’s their ad on the flag:

Flag of Treason

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NetworkKed  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:22:52pm

I’m not sure I agree that Greenwald is a purely Russian shill… but it was clear the moment he turned on Obama that he’s purely just an anti-american voice. I don’t know what this country did to him, but he’s not on any of our sides.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:26:00pm

re: #130 NetworkKed

I’m not sure I agree that Greenwald is a purely Russian shill… but it was clear the moment he turned on Obama that he’s purely just an anti-american voice. I don’t know what this country did to him, but he’s not on any of our sides.

I doubt the US did anything to him. I doubt it did any more to him than it did to my brother who still acts like he deserves something.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:27:23pm

re: #129 Belafon

So I went and looked, and a place like Fox chargers anout $11k for a 30 second ad, probably more for special places. So, they’d have to run the ads about 100 times to spend $1.4m.

I’m sure looking at their finances would turn up some things that people who don’t like them would question. Doesn’t bother me because they’re going after Trump and it’s not my money.

I’m really just going to enjoy the Lincoln Project going after Trump and the GOP. And just to point out that they’re not just going after Trump, here’s their ad on the flag:

This is where I am on the Lincoln Project. I don’t expect them to be allies when Trump is booted out of the White House. Their post-election goal is to either clean out the GOP house or build another conservative one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:29:02pm

re: #105 Shropshire Slasher

Charles mentioned using Spy mode, but to me that’s like sitting at the little kids table on Thanksgiving.

and I don’t know any way to catch up on several hundred comments in spy mode.

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nines09  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:31:05pm

re: #122 makeitstop

Hey fella. Got that JHS Supreme Fuzz. Have not plugged it in. My Coop doesn’t need that at stage volumes now. My Les Paul sang with it, humbuckers seem to go well with it.
Now I have a Strat with Kinman AV pups. Great stuff. I can hold my Strat up to a florescent 4 pack ceiling unit in “If the freezer cycles and have NO hum.
Quite amazing.
Will do eventually. My Muse took a trip. Which might be a good thing because, understanding sometimes is where you are standing.
We see.
Hope all is well with you and yours!
Later have to go.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:31:10pm

...

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:31:13pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

and I don’t know any way to catch up on several hundred comments in spy mode.

There isn’t. I was thinking of that today, reflecting on that comment.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:32:13pm

I would love to see Fox News turn on Trump, but they would lose their business model.

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nines09  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:32:21pm

re: #128 Teddy’s Person

He’s a happy mutt.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:34:12pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:34:27pm

re: #138 nines09

He’s a happy mutt.

You can get some nice candid shots of him. When I go for the phone/camera, Teddy instantly stops what ever he’s doing and thinks I should give him a treat. I have to stage his photos.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:35:19pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:37:31pm

Twitter makes me happy when randos share their experiences and make me laugh.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:38:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:41:36pm

re: #136 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

There isn’t. I was thinking of that today, reflecting on that comment.

maybe there is.
I looked and saw that “all” is a choice in “show *** items” and I presume that unticking the “on” box will stop automatic comment adding.
I shall have experiment

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:46:42pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:46:49pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:48:35pm

re: #105 Shropshire Slasher

Charles mentioned using Spy mode, but to me that’s like sitting at the little kids table on Thanksgiving.

Thread-specific Spy mode is all I’ve used for years now. Much easier on the browser.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:50:20pm

I’m going to go all Ben Shapiro on Karen’s ass right now & say NO KAREN, YOU ARE NOT JEWISH!!! BABUSHKA HAS SPOKEN!!!!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:50:22pm

last friday, someone pointed out another article, this time on newsweek about how trump may ‘steal’ the election.

i made a few comments like “never gonna happen”.

and once again, electoral-vote.com demolished it with all due dispatch, more or less confirmed what i thought (and had already written in a comment here).

this is the last time i’ll update my post. “On November 3, 2020, the Presidential Election *Will* Take Place. There is no delay, there is no postpone, there is no cancel.”

they are getting more outlandish and inaccurate in their assumptions and interpretations of what’s in the constitution and various state laws. They are implausible in their construction and not worth anyone’s time.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:52:18pm

re: #148 The Pie Overlord!

I’m going to go all Ben Shapiro on Karen’s ass right now & say NO KAREN, YOU ARE NOT JEWISH!!! BABUSHKA HAS SPOKEN!!!!

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Don’t do it, oh Mistress of Pies! Don’t go to the bad place!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:53:21pm

re: #150 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Don’t do it, oh Mistress of Pies! Don’t go to the bad place!

As if we needed any proof 2020 is a crazy ass year…

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:53:23pm

re: #10 William Lewis

Illegal here too but…

Iframe

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:53:33pm

re: #87 Ace Rothstein

I really hope I’m wrong about this, but it looks like my prediction that the Russian bounty story would be over by this past Friday has come true. I haven’t heard a word about it in three days.

im comfortable the dems in the house have not forgotten about it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:54:12pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

maybe there is.
I looked and saw that “all” is a choice in “show *** items” and I presume that unticking the “on” box will stop automatic comment adding.
I shall have experiment

selecting “all” and “200” both resulted in the same glacial slow and incomplete loading on the last thread.

sad face

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:56:42pm

Looks like we might have a name for the woman who trashed the masks at the Target:

We have IDed the woman as Melissa Rein Lively the CEO of The Brand Consortium

And it seems that she needs help:

Her entire story was from 8 Am (ish?) - 2 PM? The husband wants a divorce and kicked her out, so she went to a hotel. Went to Target, tried destroying it, and got kicked out. Got an Uber back to her hotel. Immediately went shopping, bought thousands of dollars worth of stuff using daddy’s credit card (literally). Was eventually stopped because she refused to wear a mask. Got kicked out of the hotel, walked around with hats ON HER FEET because she apparently lost her shoes. Got another Uber to her house. When she went into her house, her Range Rover was there (somehow) and she tried to leave. The husband stopped her, took her purse away to keep her there. Called the cops. Told the cops how much of a threat her husband is, told them he had unregistered guns, anything to get HIM arrested Then here we are.

blacksportsonline.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:57:57pm

re: #155 Belafon

Looks like we might have a name for the woman who trashed the masks at the Target:

And it seems that she needs help:

blacksportsonline.com

Holy shit. Not that that excuses ANY of what she did, but I hope someone helps her in a way that doesn’t feed her sense of entitledness.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:59:17pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not just you. Same thing has been happening to me for the last week or so.
I finally gave up trying get through the last thread. Could never get even halfway through it.

ive been having trouble only on my at&t tablet (android 7)
new phone samsung s10 is like lightning compared to my old j3
and windows 7 / chrome still works just fine

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 2:59:53pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

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thought the guy on the right was a toilet head

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SteelPH  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:01:08pm

re: #158 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

thought the guy on the right was a toilet head

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An accurate description of Qanon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:01:14pm

re: #157 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

ive been having trouble only on my at&t tablet (android 7)
new phone samsung s10 is like lightning compared to my old j3
and windows 7 / chrome still works just fine

I’m having the problem on my Acer Win10 laptop, no matter which browser (Firefox, Chrome, Edge). If I’m feeling adventurous, I’ll try one of my tablets

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:02:14pm

re: #156 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Holy shit. Not that that excuses ANY of what she did, but I hope someone helps her in a way that doesn’t feed her sense of entitledness.

These are the people that these QAnon fucks and disinfo wizards are targeting - borderline cases that are probably ready to believe anything.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:05:22pm

Regarding the woman reeking havoc in Target, it’s unfortunate that it’s difficult to distinguish between some one with mental issues/illness in need of help and some one flipping out because society is currently questioning their privilege.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:09:38pm

re: #158 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

thought the guy on the right was a toilet head

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So’s the guy on the left. And the guy in the middle.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:10:35pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:11:09pm

re: #145 Belafon

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Leaving most monuments in place while stating the inhumanities associated with them is a better lesson for future generations than tearing them down indiscriminately in anger.

- is that why those monuments were erected (because they all were, voluntarily, long after the fact)
- if you go see any of them is it clear and obvious why they are there and what their ‘lesson for future generations’ is?

- im pretty sure there is no ‘stating the inhumanities associated with them’ posted at any of them by the erectors or maintaners

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:11:12pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:13:07pm

re: #164 Patricia Kayden

That is great news. It is a shame that we cannot duplicate it here.

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Jack Burton  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:15:05pm

re: #110 Mattand

No I don’t. That’s not the point. My point is that while it’s nice to nominally see Republicans taking shots at Trump, they’re still Republicans. They still believe women should be turned into baby factories, cops should be allowed to shoot whoever they want, and that voting should be as difficult as possible.

The ads are entertaining and if they put Trump on tilt, so much the better. Maybe they’ll sway any fucking idiot independent voters. But these guys are a novelty act and hopefully people aren’t treating them more than that.

We use them until we don’t need them and then discard them. While they are helping, don’t slap their hand and refuse it. That’s the kind of shit that has gotten the left in general nowhere fast in the past.

Basically it boils down to this. The Lincoln Project Republicans, and the GOP in general are masters of media. Masters of getting a message out.

Democrats and the Left are fucking HORRIBLE at this. We know there’s nuance and complexity to shit, but refuse to simplify the message and leave the wonk stuff for later. That’s why the LIncoln Project is putting out excellent ads and great talking points, while we still think “DefundThePolice”, instead of any one of dozen or so other better ways to say it there are, is a slogan that’s going to win friends and influence people.

We need their PR people as long as they are on our side. It sucks, and I’m sorry, but it’s a hard truth.

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plansbandc  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:18:04pm

re: #117 goddamnedfrank

Just said much the same thing to dude.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:23:08pm

130 000+ Americans could not be reached for comment.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:24:12pm

The amount of nihilism on twitter is often overwhelming, but it is even more frustrating when those who want to pretend to be “progressive” really are just acting spoiled:

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nines09  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:25:42pm

re: #140 Teddy’s Person

Coop is a ball of Coop and it’s catch as catch can. So I just fire through and get some keepers I post here. He’s shedding his puppy floof slowly and and he’s in mid shed for True Coop.
I’m curious to what he finally looks like.
Had him going on 10 weeks and he weighs 8 lbs and looks like a drowned rat when completely wet.
Snow should be a real treat.
Be well.

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Jack Burton  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:26:54pm

re: #171 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The amount of nihilism on twitter is often overwhelming, but it is even more frustrating when those who want to pretend to be “progressive” really are just acting spoiled:

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Back in… well sometime in the GWB era I had a friend of the far left variety who consistently said “If voting could change anything they wouldn’t let you.”

I’d love to throw that in his face and get him to explain all the voter suppression that’s been going on since then.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:30:03pm

re: #165 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

There’s no Ol’ Heidie university in Heidelberg, where the school mascot is a cartoon Brownshirt, and sororities hold pre-war Swastika Balls.

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William Lewis  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:33:44pm

re: #152 Rightwingconspirator

Illegal here too but…

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Not seeing what you posted/linked, alas.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:34:41pm

re: #173 Jack Burton

Back in… well sometime in the GWB era I had a friend of the far left variety who consistently said “If voting could change anything they wouldn’t let you.”

I’d love to throw that in his face and get him to explain all the voter suppression that’s been going on since then.

I used to throw that up on the internet back then. “Ask blacks about not being allowed to vote.”

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Jack Burton  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:34:47pm

re: #174 jaunte

There’s no Ol’ Heidie university in Heidelberg, where the school mascot is a cartoon Brownshirt, and sororities hold pre-war Swastika Balls.

There’s no Hermann Göring Air Force Base or Fort Rommel.

No statues of Generalfeldmarschall Erich von Manstein.

ETA: How will I ever know anything about WW2??? //

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:42:10pm

I just got back from a little Teddy potty walk around the apartment complex. There was some one in the pool area (they’ve opened the pool area where there are lounge chairs and tables but not the pool and limited it to 11 people). They were listening to some AM talk radio going on about how not wearing a mask is an expression of your freedom.

JFC, this virus is going to run unchecked in this country until there’s a vaccine at which point the anti-vaxers will take over.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:45:08pm

Cambridge University Press is offering a section of books and articles on protests, policing and race for free until the 12th.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:48:26pm

re: #178 Teddy’s Person

It’s not going to stop until there are consequences and enforcement. 100 bucks the first time you refuse to wear a mask and act like a grown up. 200 the second time. 3rd time is mandatory 2 weeks in jail, 1000 dollar fine and a psych eval. Throw some community service in there too. Clean up dog shit at the county animal shelter or clean up a soup kitchen after mealtime. Let them cry. Boo. Fucking. Hoo.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:48:31pm

re: #173 Jack Burton

Back in… well sometime in the GWB era I had a friend of the far left variety who consistently said “If voting could change anything they wouldn’t let you.”

I’d love to throw that in his face and get him to explain all the voter suppression that’s been going on since then.

its a lazy way of explaining why I don’t have to bother participating

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Dread Pirate  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:49:21pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:50:31pm

re: #178 Teddy’s Person

It’s obvious to me that there are *a lot* of Americans who are just complete fucking idiots, who among other things don’t understand freedom, like power, comes with responsibility.

Way too many Americans have shown that they can’t be trusted with freedom. They abuse it. They break it. They twist it to mean things it doesn’t. They are now literally a danger to themselves and others. Dunning-Kruger syndrome is costing lives now.

I’m not going to advocate getting rid of Democracy, and let Putin and GOP Plutocrats win, but what I’d like to see a discussion of, is how to we fix this? Really how do we fix this?

“Money to education” is not a sufficient or valid answer to this. That’s how you maintain it when it’s fixed.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:51:03pm

re: #178 Teddy’s Person

I just got back from a little Teddy potty walk around the apartment complex. There was some one in the pool area (they’ve opened the pool area where there are lounge chairs and tables but not the pool and limited it to 11 people). They were listening to some AM talk radio going on about how not wearing a mask is an expression of your freedom.

JFC, this virus is going to run unchecked in this country until there’s a vaccine at which point the anti-vaxers will take over.

I’m being selfish with this one

as long as I and mine can get vaccines, rigght now i don’t care what they do

I’ll worry about them and society at large and those who actually can’t vaccine later

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:51:18pm

re: #182 Dread Pirate

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take you llama to work day!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:52:59pm

re: #181 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Voting is just the beginning of your work as a citizen too. People forget that WAY too much. Public meetings about plans and policies for your community happen all the time. It’s not hard to find the info. And I do not give a flying monkey’s ass who gets elected, it’s still our job to watch what they are doing, what they say, who is voting for what, etc. Americans are very complacent about this stuff and now here we are.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:55:34pm

They really alpaca-ing them into that car.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:55:35pm

re: #183 Jack Burton

It’s obvious to me that there are *a lot* of Americans who are just complete fucking idiots, who among other things don’t understand freedom, like power, comes with responsibility.

Way too many Americans have shown that they can’t be trusted with freedom. They abuse it. They break it. They twist it to mean things it doesn’t. They are now literally a danger to themselves and others. Dunning-Kruger syndrome is costing lives now.

I’m not going to advocate getting rid of Democracy, and let Putin and GOP Plutocrats win, but what I’d like to see a discussion of, is how to we fix this? Really how do we fix this?

“Money to education” is not a sufficient or valid answer to this. That’s how you maintain it when it’s fixed.

the 2A problem in one sentence

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plansbandc  Jul 5, 2020 • 3:57:57pm

re: #182 Dread Pirate

Llama in a taxi, you’re my llama in a taxi. (sung to the tune of Mirror In The Bathroom)

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2020 • 4:25:13pm

re: #158 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

thought the guy on the right was a toilet head

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And you are right. “Sanitized for your protection” banner and all.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 5, 2020 • 4:27:01pm

re: #155 Belafon

Looks like we might have a name for the woman who trashed the masks at the Target:

And it seems that she needs help:

blacksportsonline.com

An average Trump cultist then, maybe more affluent than most.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2020 • 4:33:27pm

re: #182 Dread Pirate

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The hell with riding my llama from Peru to Texarkana, I’m gonna drive him.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 5, 2020 • 4:46:54pm

re: #162 Teddy’s Person

Regarding the woman reeking havoc in Target, it’s unfortunate that it’s difficult to distinguish between some one with mental issues/illness in need of help and some one flipping out because society is currently questioning their privilege.

That’s not a distinction, that’s a continuum.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 5, 2020 • 5:08:21pm

re: #158 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

thought the guy on the right was a toilet head

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Robert Crumb might have an intellectual property beef.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 6, 2020 • 5:59:04am

re: #76 jaunte

Scottsdale, Arizona.

re: #125 A Three Hour Tour

I would love for a forensic accountant to go through Greenwald’s finances to track down now much Russian funding he receives, if any.

Greenwald is a useful idiot, and not just to the Russians. His continued presence; indeed, survival; in Bolsonaro’s Brazil is the most reliable indicator we have that Bolsonaro is as much in Putin’s pocket as Trump is.


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