Trump’s Niece Releases Tell-All Book That Tells Us What We Already Knew

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Donald Trump’s niece doesn’t like him, and her new book makes that very clear. But there’s no surprising information here; it’s just more confirmation of what an absolutely disgusting human being this president is.

Here’s a look at what’s in it, with a piece of interesting but totally un-shocking news: Trump actually paid someone to take his SAT tests for him. Yep, that’s our president.

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317 comments

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:31:14am

Fuck Unc

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retired cynic  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:32:19am

GOTV

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:33:07am

Brian Stelter comes off like a real idiot here.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:33:44am

Stelter says it’s “sad” to see a book like this come out. Fuck that.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:33:52am

It also proves that monsters are created, not born. And monsters beget more monsters.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:35:41am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:35:44am

re: #5 A Mom Anon

It also proves that monsters are created, not born. And monsters beget more monsters.

Fred Sr —— Don —- Ivanka/Don Jr/Eric. Hopefully the fourth generation are reduced to low level monster behavior.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:36:47am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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Given what he said about his infant daughter’s future breast size not a shocker.Seriously this thing is a sick monster who is an everlasting stain on our country.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:37:29am

The media is how Trump came to be anything but a mediocre real estate developer. He knew how to play the media, and like any good con man, he got them to believe the baffling bulkshit.

Now, in the WH, they’re still believing the bulkshit.

The book doesn’t tell us anything that we haven’t already known or surmised all along. He’s a creepy misogynistic bigot who has lied, cheated, and crimed his way to the WH.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:37:53am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Sad proof that the broadcast news hasn’t been doing much digging in Trumpland.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:40:14am

I won’t be surprised to see the CCCP (Corporate Controlled Conservative Press) continue with “both sides do it” by doubling down on their kneecapping attacks on Joe.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:40:41am

I wonder if Barron will turn out to be a major asshole too?

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Jay C  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:41:24am

CL’ed

re: #288 jaunte

Curious if all of Trump’s NDAs, legal manuvering, and other assorted delaying tactics to maintain his facade are all destined to fail over the summer, leaving him completely pantsed.

I hope so: I also hope that highlighting the extraordinarily low-end sleaziness and cheapskatery of “successful billionaire” Donald (removing the caviar before re-gifting a food basket? SRSLY?) can be as devastating to his reelection chances as any of the political stuff.
I’m sure that the brainwashed red-hat crowd will find some sort of “rationale” to explain it away: but for every Republican who can be discouraged, or marginal voter who can be persuaded to firm up their vote against The Anus*, it will be worthwhile.

*not so much persuading actual “undecideds” - those seem to be in remarkably short supply this time round.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:41:56am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if Barron will turn out to be a major asshole too?

The odds are good. I do hope for the best with him all the same but I’m not optimistic given his half siblings and parents. Thankfully he doesn’t seem to spend much time with his Dad but Melania really isn’t a prize person either.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:42:08am

re: #13 Jay C

Too bad she didn’t publish this in 2015.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:43:39am

re: #9 lawhawk

The media is how Trump came to be anything but a mediocre real estate developer. He knew how to play the media, and like any good con man, he got them to believe the baffling bulkshit.

Now, in the WH, they’re still believing the bulkshit.

The book doesn’t tell us anything that we haven’t already known or surmised all along. He’s a creepy misogynistic bigot who has lied, cheated, and crimed his way to the WH.

I’ve always seen him as everything the rest of the country thinks they hate about New Yorkers. He’s loud, obnoxious, thinks his shit doesn’t shink, etc. That’s why it was so funny to see the GOP base with all their contempt for NYC embrace him. But in a lot of ways it was a match made in paradise because the GOP base is loud, obnoxious, and thinks their shit doesn’t stink.

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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:43:54am

Paraphrasing from downstairs -

Imagine what a happy place the White House must be today. Between that Lincoln Project spot and this book leaking all over the place, people must be cowering under their desks right now.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:45:15am

re: #17 makeitstop

Paraphrasing from downstairs -

Imagine what a happy place the White House must be today. Between that Lincoln Project spot and this book leaking all over the place, people must be cowering under their desks right now.

I feel bad for the non-political staff like the cooks, maids, etc. I mean I don’t like GWB but I imagine he was at least pleasant to be around. Trump? He’s either gloating like the ugly shit person he is or whining like the shit person he is.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:45:41am

I’ve always said that while Trump definitely is a dimwit, a dumbass, and an incurious clod, it’s a little too simplistic to just call him “stupid” and leave it at that. Because he may not be intelligent in the normal human sense, but he’s preternaturally gifted in one thing: scams. Cons. Swindles. He’s a natural born con man who uses a combination of tactics to avoid consequences while committing blatant crimes.

You don’t get to the White House by just being “stupid.” A century ago he’d have been a very successful carnival operator or snake oil salesman. He’s an archetypal American upper-class criminal.

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retired cynic  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:46:40am

We’ve talked about this a lot, but Max Boot has a WaPo column on the “war games” that some of them performed on WHAT IF the EC was very close, and the Rs did what they did in 2000. The assumption is the conservative majority on the Supreme Court would do the same thing as happened there: stop the unrest (assuming there is unrest, which is almost certain) by deciding the election for DT.
washingtonpost.com

It is impossible to write off such concerns as far-fetched given how many seemingly far-fetched things have already occurred in the past four years.Trump got himself impeached by trying to blackmail a foreign country into helping his reelection campaign. He will stop at nothing to avoid the stigma of being branded a “loser.” Unless Biden wins by an electoral college margin that no one can credibly dispute, our democracy may be imperiled as never before. We had better start thinking now about how we would handle such an electoral crisis.

So we need to make sure the EC margin is Big!

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:47:22am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Robber Baron for the modern day.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:47:23am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

I’ve always said that while Trump definitely is a dimwit, a dumbass, and an incurious clod, it’s a little too simplistic to just call him “stupid” and leave it at that. Because he may not be intelligent in the normal human sense, but he’s preternaturally gifted in one thing: scams. Cons. Swindles. He’s a natural born con man who uses a combination of tactics to avoid consequences while committing blatant crimes.

You don’t get to the White House by just being “stupid.” A century ago he’d have been a very successful carnival operator or snake oil salesman. He’s an archetypal American upper-class criminal.

Sounds right. Hopefully this is the end of the road for him avoiding the consequences for his crimes. I hope he goes to prison for the rest of his miserable life after all this is over.

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Jay C  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:48:08am

re: #15 jaunte

Too bad she didn’t publish this in 2015.

Would it really have made much difference?
Maybe a minority opinion, but I think the manifold failures in Donald Trump’s personality were well-known even at the time.
And the GOP nominated him, and people voted him into the WH anyway.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:48:31am

Arizona’s daily death reports seem to peak on Tuesday (probably weekend delays), and sure enough today reported 117 deaths, the highest single day report yet for Arizona.

It will probably get worse.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:48:54am

Trumpers voted for Trump exactly because he is Trump. He is what they want.

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:48:58am

Since I already voted by mail, today didn’t register - but today is primary day here in NJ.

It’s also primary day in DE.

If you haven’t already voted, get your ass out and vote. And make sure that you’ll be able to vote in November.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:49:51am

re: #23 Jay C

Would it really have made much difference?
Maybe a minority opinion, but I think the manifold failures in Donald Trump’s personality were well-known even at the time.
And the GOP nominated him, and people voted him into the WH anyway.

I dunno. It just frustrates me to no end that he got nominated in the first place. He’s no doubt the most unqualified person nominated by a major party to be President. It really says a lot about the GOP base that they did this and continue to stand by him. It’s why I hope the Never-Trumpers know that their party is going to be linked with him as long as they live and maybe even after.

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wrenchwench  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:51:59am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

He’s an archetypal American upper-class criminal.

Heritage!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:57:21am

re: #25 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Trumpers voted for Trump exactly because he is Trump. He is what they want.

A good con man always manages to convince his marks that they are NOT getting conned.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:58:52am

re: #16 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Glad my shit doesn’t think.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:58:57am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

I’d argue that both what people deem as his “stupidity” and his “cunning” are measures of his sociopathy. Whatever his basic cognitive capacities are, Donald Trump is both limited and enabled by his single-minded interest in self-gratification. No information that incorporates thinking about other people, or complex systems, penetrates; he can relate to people only in terms of power, fawning to people who hold power he lacks and contemptuous of people that he sees as down-power ; his “skill” is simply lacking the capacity for shame, or self-doubt, which our culture reads as a kind of authenticity.

He’s bad at handling ideas or tasks that involve thinking about other people; he’s good at tasks where it’s advantageous to not care about the effect you’re having on another person. There’s no deeper level, no complex flaw or rare talent.

Less than meets the eye.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:59:52am

re: #30 Ace Rothstein

Glad my shit doesn’t think.

D’oh

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:00:13am

re: #20 retired cynic

We’ve talked about this a lot, but Max Boot has a WaPo column on the “war games” that some of them performed on WHAT IF the EC was very close, and the Rs did what they did in 2000. The assumption is the conservative majority on the Supreme Court would do the same thing as happened there: stop the unrest (assuming there is unrest, which is almost certain) by deciding the election for DT.
washingtonpost.com

So we need to make sure the EC margin is Big!

not gonna happen. more fantasy electoral college manipulations and machinations

the article says:

“But there is nothing to prevent the legislature from certifying a different election outcome.”

yes there is:

state legislatures in those … states don’t have power to decide whether or not election results are certified. …that power is vested in the governor (PA), the state elections commission (WI), the secretary of state (MI)….

those particular legislatures have nothing to do with it

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:00:37am

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if Barron will turn out to be a major asshole too?

It would be a miracle if he didn’t.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:00:46am

I keep reading “Nothing we don’t already know.” Remember, folks, WE don’t represent the majority of the country in any way.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:01:00am

So this phenomenon is going on: Fox News is becoming even more dominant in cable TV. On any given night their shows top the leader board in viewers and often in the demos.

I thought perhaps it’s due to the pandemic.

Note that Fox News now is the dominant network for the young demographic, but often gives up the top spot in 12-34yo females to one of the music/special interest channels. But just barely.

Another possibility is that Trumpers and their families are trying to take TV-refuge, as pretty much the rest of cable TV is only going to be hammering home what a mess things have become under Trump.

Anyway, it’s a trend that is quite noticeable.

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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:02:12am

Fuck.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:03:31am

re: #23 Jay C

Would it really have made much difference?
Maybe a minority opinion, but I think the manifold failures in Donald Trump’s personality were well-known even at the time.
And the GOP nominated him, and people voted him into the WH anyway.

I mean, we heard him bragging about sexually assaulting women just before 63 million people voted for him anyway.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:04:03am

re: #37 makeitstop

Fuck.

I do not pity Biden’s diplomatic team. They’re going to have their hands full because the other countries understandably are going to be skeptical. They’ll trust Biden and his people no doubt but my understanding is they’re definitely worried about another Trump coming around and I don’t blame them.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:04:57am

re: #38 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I mean, we heard him bragging about sexually assaulting women just before 63 million people voted for him anyway.

I mean sure he bragged about that but it’s not like his emails. // Seriously, if I were Clinton, I’d have a big old grudge against a lot of the country due to their bigotry, selfishness, etc in voting for this fucking asshole.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:05:04am

re: #39 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I do not pity Biden’s diplomatic team. They’re going to have their hands full because the other countries understandably are going to be skeptical. They’ll trust Biden and his people no doubt but my understanding is they’re definitely worried about another Trump coming around and I don’t blame them.

Agreed. Joe needs to be working on that elevator speech right now.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:05:14am

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So this phenomenon is going on: Fox News is becoming even more dominant in cable TV. On any given night their shows top the leader board in viewers and often in the demos.

I thought perhaps it’s due to the pandemic.

Note that Fox News now is the dominant network for the young demographic, but often gives up the top spot in 12-34yo females to one of the music/special interest channels. But just barely.

Another possibility is that Trumpers and their families are trying to take TV-refuge, as pretty much the rest of cable TV is only going to be hammering home what a mess things have become under Trump.

Anyway, it’s a trend that is quite noticeable.

i wonder whether the other networks lost / are losing viewers to fox, or those people are just not watching that kind of tv at all, so the market is shrinking and fox has a bigger piece of a smaller pie

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:06:13am

re: #36 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Another possibility is that Trumpers and their families are trying to take TV-refuge, as pretty much the rest of cable TV is only going to be hammering home what a mess things have become under Trump.

I think this is a highly plausible theory.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:06:22am

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed. Joe needs to be working on that elevator speech right now.

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I appreciate that Trump’s successor is going to be a known quantity to the rest of the world. And I’m sure as hell it’s not Bernie who can be just as abrasive as Trump is at times.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:06:41am

re: #40 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I mean sure he bragged about that but it’s not like his emails. // Seriously, if I were Clinton, I’d have a big old grudge against a lot of the country due to their bigotry, selfishness, etc in voting for this fucking asshole.

and misogyny
dont forget the misogyny

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:06:57am

re: #42 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

i wonder whether the other networks lost / are losing viewers to fox, or those people are just not watching that kind of tv at all, so the market is shrinking and fox has a bigger piece of a smaller pie

I think fewer people are getting their news from cable news overall.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:07:07am

re: #45 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

and misogyny
dont forget the misogyny

Of course.

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JC1  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:08:21am

re: #5 A Mom Anon

It also proves that monsters are created, not born. And monsters beget more monsters.

Chicken or the egg… Fred Trump contributed to Donald being the way he is by both raising him and providing half his genes. You can’t teach genuine empathy; you either have the brain wiring for it or you don’t.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:09:22am

re: #40 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I mean sure he bragged about that but it’s not like his emails. // Seriously, if I were Clinton, I’d have a big old grudge against a lot of the country due to their bigotry, selfishness, etc in voting for this fucking asshole.

I sometimes think about how badly Bill Clinton screwed the country over because he couldn’t keep his pants zipped. No Lewinsky scandal, Gore would probably have been elected President in 2000, and Hillary probably would’ve won in 2016. Of course lots of the hypocritical Republicans who impeached him were screwing around as well.

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jeffreyw  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:10:17am

Beef & Barley

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:10:30am

re: #46 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think fewer people are getting their news from cable news overall.

is what i meant

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:12:16am

re: #37 makeitstop

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Fuck.

IIRC, they have a year from the request before it becomes official, which was earlier this year.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:12:38am

re: #49 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I sometimes think about how badly Bill Clinton screwed the country over because he couldn’t keep his pants zipped. No Lewinsky scandal, Gore would probably have been elected President in 2000, and Hillary probably would’ve won in 2016. Of course lots of the hypocritical Republicans who impeached him were screwing around as well.

Gore being elected President in 2000 is going to be one of those what ifs of history. I owe my political interests due to the aftermath of that and many of my good friends I’ve made are people I got ot know first online and then IRL because of my anger over that.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:12:56am

re: #51 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

is what i meant

Ahhh I see.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:13:43am

re: #52 Belafon

IIRC, they have a year from the request before it becomes official, which was earlier this year.

Wouldn’t be too hard for Biden to re-enter but it’s just another international relations mess. Oh and if Biden wins, we can reverse course quickly on the Paris Accords withdrawal too. We’re not formally withdrawn from that yet.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:14:28am

The Onion has me laughing!

Fox Criticized For Cropping Epstein Party Photo To Remove Killer Buffet Spread

NEW YORK—Following the broadcast of a doctored photograph featuring the financier and convicted sex offender, Fox News received widespread criticism Tuesday for cropping a picture of Jeffrey Epstein at a party to edit out the killer buffet spread. “This is typical of the lax journalistic standards of Fox News to mislead the public by suggesting Epstein was holding some sort of rinky-dink get-together when, in fact, there was a veritable smorgasbord for his visitors to enjoy,” said Angelo Carusone of Media Matters, adding that the conservative network had engaged in misleading editing practices in an effort to omit the truth that the party had featured a full dessert bar equipped with fruit, pastries, and a chocolate fountain. “The truth is, there was an abundance of high-class options like caviar and bacon-wrapped scallops, as well as comfort food like sliders and mac-and-cheese balls, but that doesn’t fit into the narrative that Fox is trying to construct, so facts be damned. You’d never know it from looking at the photo that Fox put out, but this party was just one example of Epstein’s long history of providing numerous waiters to ensure guests like Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Prince Andrew, and Alan Dershowitz always had ample hors d’oeuvres.” Carusone added that this journalistic oversight was particularly egregious for Fox News reporters since they, along with virtually everyone else in the media, had attended dozens of Epstein’s get-togethers over the years.

theonion.com

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:14:39am

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:15:08am

re: #53 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Gore being elected President in 2000 is going to be one of those what ifs of history. I owe my political interests due to the aftermath of that and many of my good friends I’ve made are people I got ot know first online and then IRL because of my anger over that.

Real progress on climate change and no Iraq war would’ve made the world a much better place. Wish I could see that alternative universe.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:15:39am

re: #49 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I sometimes think about how badly Bill Clinton screwed the country over because he couldn’t keep his pants zipped. No Lewinsky scandal, Gore would probably have been elected President in 2000, and Hillary probably would’ve won in 2016. Of course lots of the hypocritical Republicans who impeached him were screwing around as well.

Clinton was the first president required to keep his pants on.

Seriously, though, the affair didn’t do Gore in by itself. The relentless investigations of crap by the GOP did what it was meant to do: Wear the country down. It’s also partially why Hillary didn’t get enough votes in certain areas 16 years later.

Edited.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:16:05am

re: #58 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Real progress on climate change and no Iraq war would’ve made the world a much better place. Wish I could see that alternative universe.

The 2008 financial crisis probably isn’t as bad too. I’m sure there would have been a recession at some point but the mess that Obama ended up cleaning up wouldn’t have been as bad.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:18:47am

re: #60 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The 2008 financial crisis probably isn’t as bad too. I’m sure there would have been a recession at some point but the mess that Obama ended up cleaning up wouldn’t have been as bad.

We’ll never know. It’s even possible Gore would’ve paid attention and prevented 9/11, and that whole can of worms wouldn’t have ever opened.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:20:12am

re: #61 NO SMOCKING GUN!

We’ll never know. It’s even possible Gore would’ve paid attention and prevented 9/11, and that whole can of worms wouldn’t have ever opened.

But what if he had prevented 9/11 and we suffered an even WORSE attack a year or two later? Goes both ways.

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retired cynic  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:23:18am

Charlie Pierce has been on fire: these are all worth reading (none long):

The Only Way to Reform the Electoral College Is to Abolish It
It’s an antiquated device with more than a few roots in white supremacy. It’s time for it to go.

The President* Has Entirely Clusterf*cked the Republican National Convention
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is doing his part, too.

Please Welcome to the Stage…The Ayn Rand Institute!
Along with the president*’s fatcat friends, plenty of anti-government types readily accepted big-government cash as part of the Paycheck Protection Program.

The details in this one are especially chewy.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:23:53am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200705 edition ———————————>
“Endgame”

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:26:25am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:31:47am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:33:07am
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William Lewis  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:38:50am

re: #14 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The odds are good. I do hope for the best with him all the same but I’m not optimistic given his half siblings and parents. Thankfully he doesn’t seem to spend much time with his Dad but Melania really isn’t a prize person either.

The only way the cycle of abuse in that family is likely to break is if Baron dies childless someday. Otherwise, these cycles can last for generations until an outside agency arrests or otherwise intervenes.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:38:58am

re: #7 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Fred Sr —— Don —- Ivanka/Don Jr/Eric. Hopefully the fourth generation are reduced to low level monster behavior.

If there is justice they will lose most of their $

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:41:59am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:43:21am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:45:07am

re: #70 lawhawk

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it’s absolute lunacy to take your family - your children - there now

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:45:45am
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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:49:15am

re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Do not take food from happy fun otter.

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KGxvi  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:49:19am

re: #19 Charles Johnson

I’ve always said that while Trump definitely is a dimwit, a dumbass, and an incurious clod, it’s a little too simplistic to just call him “stupid” and leave it at that. Because he may not be intelligent in the normal human sense, but he’s preternaturally gifted in one thing: scams. Cons. Swindles. He’s a natural born con man who uses a combination of tactics to avoid consequences while committing blatant crimes.

You don’t get to the White House by just being “stupid.” A century ago he’d have been a very successful carnival operator or snake oil salesman. He’s an archetypal American upper-class criminal.

The thing is, he’s unique in that he was born into wealth. Most conmen/scam artists have to work their way up. Trump, as I’ve said before, was born on third and keeps trying to steal second.

Most of his ventures have failed. Trump Airlines, Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka, Trump University… hell, he managed to fail at owning casinos to the point that Nevada wouldn’t give him a gaming license. The only thing he’s really been good at is creating the illusion of wealth and style, and then licensing his name off of that.

If he had been born to a middle class family, there’s no way anyone would know who he was because he’d have lost what little he had and been stuck working some dead end job. His real skill is having enough resources to run con after con after con, despite multiple failures.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:52:32am
One of the few effective tools we have for slowing the spread of COVID-19 has been rendered ineffective in the southern states now experiencing record coronavirus infections. Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine told CNN host Anderson Cooper on Monday that the cases in those states “are rising so rapidly that we cannot even do contact tracing anymore. I don’t see how it’s possible to even do that.”

COVID-19 infections are so now so prevalent in many areas, in other words, we simply can’t determine where the infections are coming from or who else needs to be warned. In Arizona, around a fourth of all COVID-19 tests performed are coming back positive—a tell-tale symptom of rationed testing in which only the most obviously sick are receiving tests, and the wider public is not being tested at all. These states are now reaching uncontrolled and uncontrollable pandemic levels; we haven’t yet seen for certain whether death counts will soar as they did in New York during the first wave of the pandemic, but there is absolutely no evidence suggesting they will not.

dailykos.com

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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:52:45am

re: #75 KGxvi

If he had been born to a middle class family, there’s no way anyone would know who he was because he’d have lost what little he had and been stuck working some dead end job. His real skill is having enough resources to run con after con after con, despite multiple failures.

Like Lawhawk says, he’d be ‘Donny from Queens,’ barely scraping by on his draw from the car dealership and calling Rushbo to deliver megadittoes.

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KGxvi  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:53:42am

re: #20 retired cynic

We’ve talked about this a lot, but Max Boot has a WaPo column on the “war games” that some of them performed on WHAT IF the EC was very close, and the Rs did what they did in 2000. The assumption is the conservative majority on the Supreme Court would do the same thing as happened there: stop the unrest (assuming there is unrest, which is almost certain) by deciding the election for DT.
washingtonpost.com

So we need to make sure the EC margin is Big!

The real scary scenario isn’t 2000 - that was one state that was incredibly close with incredibly shitty rules in place that didn’t really consider what would happen if a statewide election was that fucking close. The real scary scenario is having multiple close states - imagine Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina all being decided by less than a thousand votes each? Each having slightly different language and procedures for recounts and recanvasings.

I think after 2000 most states updated and clarified their procedures, but it could still get to be very, very not good.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:56:14am

re: #68 William Lewis

I come from a long line of shit like this only without the money. My daughter is lost to her dad the drug dealing sack of shit. My son however was not raised like my husband or I was (my husband had a terribly abusive father and he has been a much better dad, just not always as present and patient as he could have been). I think we ended the cycle in this family, but my son doesn’t want kids, so that is probably the end. My daughter is another story, too long to tell here.

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KGxvi  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:57:33am

re: #77 makeitstop

Like Lawhawk says, he’d be ‘Donny from Queens,’ barely scraping by on his draw from the car dealership and calling Rushbo to deliver megadittoes.

I could see him being one of those guys that gets a job shortly after high school selling used cars, maybe even new cars, and saving up just enough to open one of those shady ass independent used car dealerships that fucks people over. You know, these guys:

Auto Lending: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

But I also suspect he’d have gotten sued as much as he does in this timeline for sexual harassment, discrimination, and the gods only know how many wage and hour claims, to the point that he’d’ve been out of business in less than five years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:01:23pm
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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:01:28pm

Why are death tolls not soaring as they were in NY and NJ in March and April, even as the cases are soaring in TX, AZ, FL, and other places around the nation?

That’s the billion dollar question.

Did these states learn to put nursing homes on quarantine to prevent access by people who weren’t masked? Did they learn the lessons from NY and NJ where 40% of the deaths were in nursing homes and similar facilities? NY and NJ were especially hard hit among persons of color and nursing facilities and a lack of testing made this even worse. The states that are experiencing outbreaks now have better testing (which is still incapable of meeting demands - as we see the percentage of testing positive rising, which is a worrisome trend).

Are the deaths a lagging indicator? Yes.

Who is getting sick: in the current stage of the outbreak, we’re seeing a younger cohort getting sick and they’re getting hospitalized and dying, but at a lower rate than elderly folks in nursing homes. Hospitals had months to prepare for this scenario, and they’re getting overwhelmed anyways.

Social distancing and masking bought time, and the GOP wasted it, by reopening too fast and too soon.

The deaths will follow. We know that a percentage of people who get sick need hospitalization. Of those, 20% need ICU and ventilators, and of those, a percentage die. The more people who get sick, the more will need those ventilators and more will die.

As hospitals get overwhelmed, they’ll ration care for everyone else too - defer/delaying nonessential surgeries, and limiting access to hospitals to keep people safe (especially staffers).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:03:27pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:04:15pm

re: #78 KGxvi

The real scary scenario isn’t 2000 - that was one state that was incredibly close with incredibly shitty rules in place that didn’t really consider what would happen if a statewide election was that fucking close. The real scary scenario is having multiple close states - imagine Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, North Carolina all being decided by less than a thousand votes each? Each having slightly different language and procedures for recounts and recanvasings.

I think after 2000 most states updated and clarified their procedures, but it could still get to be very, very not good.

if recount procedures are in place and allowed to proceed, then the count is the count and the recount is the recount and discrepancies need to be accounted for and explained.

the integrity of the custody of the ballots during this time could be an issue.
shenanigans with ballots disappearing between counts could be a big deal. (provable if grand totals between counts dont come close)
ballots ‘appearing’ is less of an issue if reasonably explainable

mail in ballots especially are easily verified / verifable as to charges of ‘foreign countries printing millions’ and whether anyone voted more than once.

same with provisional ballots

there are no butterfly ballots or hanging chads any more. so unless someone can point to something specific having happened, the count at each precinct, is the count.

pre-election voter suppression is a bigger issue.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:04:20pm

That’s pretty fucking terrible of Disney not to test. It’s not like they would have a problem affording it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:06:23pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:07:19pm

re: #85 Eclectic Cyborg

There needs to be a flurry of bad publicity about this. Keep hammering them hard. I’m not a fan of these places at all, but I get the appeal. I wonder how many people can even afford a trip to Disney right now? I just really can’t with this shitshow. People are simply refusing to learn from what is happening right in front of them.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:08:50pm

re: #82 lawhawk

Why are death tolls not soaring as they were in NY and NJ in March and April, even as the cases are soaring in TX, AZ, FL, and other places around the nation?

That’s the billion dollar question.

Did these states learn to put nursing homes on quarantine to prevent access by people who weren’t masked? Did they learn the lessons from NY and NJ where 40% of the deaths were in nursing homes and similar facilities? NY and NJ were especially hard hit among persons of color and nursing facilities and a lack of testing made this even worse. The states that are experiencing outbreaks now have better testing (which is still incapable of meeting demands - as we see the percentage of testing positive rising, which is a worrisome trend).

Are the deaths a lagging indicator? Yes.

Who is getting sick: in the current stage of the outbreak, we’re seeing a younger cohort getting sick and they’re getting hospitalized and dying, but at a lower rate than elderly folks in nursing homes. Hospitals had months to prepare for this scenario, and they’re getting overwhelmed anyways.

Social distancing and masking bought time, and the GOP wasted it, by reopening too fast and too soon.

The deaths will follow. We know that a percentage of people who get sick need hospitalization. Of those, 20% need ICU and ventilators, and of those, a percentage die. The more people who get sick, the more will need those ventilators and more will die.

As hospitals get overwhelmed, they’ll ration care for everyone else too - defer/delaying nonessential surgeries, and limiting access to hospitals to keep people safe (especially staffers).

100% for all of that

and let’s not forget that for those who aren’t hospitalized and still survive
- everybody doesn’t recover in 2 weeks - some take months
- and a large percentage will have organ damage or other medical issues forever

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:09:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:11:53pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

And even if they do reopen, get ready for stories about kids getting beaten up for wearing masks to school.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:13:40pm

It’s beginning to look like the Trump rally surge of new cases has started.

In Florida and Arizona the deaths are starting to surge.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:14:31pm

re: #87 A Mom Anon

There needs to be a flurry of bad publicity about this. Keep hammering them hard. I’m not a fan of these places at all, but I get the appeal. I wonder how many people can even afford a trip to Disney right now? I just really can’t with this shitshow. People are simply refusing to learn from what is happening right in front of them.

going to an amusement park is high risk
8 on a scale of 9 (dont know if there’s a 10)

you want to argue about the emotion and family tug of a wedding or funeral - maybe that’s a bit different

this though, is insanity whether disney tests or not.
how can your family possibly be worth the risk?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:15:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:17:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:18:00pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:18:06pm

re: #91 Dread Pirate

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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:20:03pm

re: #91 Dread Pirate

What happened about 2 weeks ago in Oklahoma. Can’t quite put my finger on it.

Oh yeah, the Trump klan rally where no one engaged in social distancing or masking.

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sagehen  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:20:22pm

re: #48 JC1

Chicken or the egg… Fred Trump contributed to Donald being the way he is by both raising him and providing half his genes. You can’t teach genuine empathy; you either have the brain wiring for it or you don’t.

Even Dexter learned how to fake empathy.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:22:13pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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like when mirrors face each other

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b.d. (Follow science, survive and vote!)  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:22:34pm

re: #97 lawhawk

What happened about 2 weeks ago in Oklahoma. Can’t quite put my finger on it.

Oh yeah, the Trump klan rally where no one engaged in social distancing or masking.

The Flu, really………..

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Nojay UK  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:23:45pm

re: #92 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

(dont know if there’s a 10)

My personal definition of a 10 is running naked and screaming through an Intensive Care Ward full of COVID-19 patients on respirators and ventilators. YMMV.

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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:28:03pm

Gimme the warrior. Hard no on the dweeb in the khakis.

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sagehen  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:28:27pm

re: #59 Belafon

Clinton was the first president required to keep his pants on.

Not at all.

JFK was a slut, but there’s never been any suggestion LBJ fucked around. Nixon’s long list of misdeeds does not include affairs. Jerry Ford didn’t cheat on Betty, Jimmy Carter didn’t cheat on Roslyn, Ronald Reagan didn’t cheat on Nancy. HW’s side-piece was ultra-discreet and it never became scandalous.

Clinton’s infidelity issues wasn’t about one affair with one intern, it was about a decades-long string of episodes with a long list of women.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:30:22pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:31:03pm

re: #92 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

This is what it hardest for me to get. If you love your kids, why in the actual fuck would you even consider this?

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:32:22pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:34:12pm

re: #104 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

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jail. state sanctioned and enforced.

59 years ago

that’s not really too very long ago that this shit was overt and rampant.

is it?

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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:34:48pm

As much as I wish, this will never happen here.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:38:28pm

re: #106 Dread Pirate

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Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R-GA), a co-owner of Atlanta’s WNBC franchise, objected to the league’s plans to honor the Black Lives Matter movement, warning that subscribing to a “particular political agenda undermines the potential of the sport and sends a message of exclusion,” the Atlanta Journal Constitution reports.

what’s an american flag signify?
what’s it signify to those being killed by the police or disenfranchised or financially fucked by those in power?

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:39:21pm

re: #106 Dread Pirate

“It’s money that matters
Hear what I say
It’s money that matters
In the USA

All of these people are much brighter than I
In any fair system they would flourish and thrive
But they barely survive
They eke out a living and they barely survive”

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:41:29pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:43:13pm

Wait, I thought she was a die-hard Berner! When did she switch to Biden? I haz confuzzle.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:43:29pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:44:46pm

re: #49 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I sometimes think about how badly Bill Clinton screwed the country over because he couldn’t keep his pants zipped. No Lewinsky scandal, Gore would probably have been elected President in 2000, and Hillary probably would’ve won in 2016. Of course lots of the hypocritical Republicans who impeached him were screwing around as well.

Monica Lewinsky did not deserve having everyone know her name in that way. All the mean-spirited jokes about her weren’t cool.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:45:01pm
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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:47:08pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:47:25pm

re: #109 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

She is so awful. And in Georgia that’s quite a feat. It’s a daily contest to see who the most evil and shitty GOP office holder is. Most days there’s a 20 way tie for first place. I think Kelly should have to wear red,white and blue all the time, from panty hose to her stupid hair.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:47:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:49:21pm

needs to be addressed before November

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:50:48pm

re: #112 The Pie Overlord!

Wait, I thought she was a die-hard Berner! When did she switch to Biden? I haz confuzzle.

The point of the failson’s tweet isn’t to describe reality—the actual dynamic between Biden and Omar, or the meaning of Omar’s statement—but to prescribe reality—tell a story that fulfils his needs, that he messages to his followers to repeat.

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Nojay UK  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:51:00pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

Where are they going to get the teachers to “open” the schools? A lot of them will just not go back into classrooms that were always plague-pits even in the best of times — chicken pox, colds, flu, all the regular childhood diseases. If they’re told “go back to work or get fired” they’ll quit or retire. Many of the the ones that do go back will get sick and drop out, some of them will die, replacements will be hard to find.

After the damage is done the schools will close again simply because the teachers and other staff aren’t there any more.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:52:04pm

Schools in NYC, Chicago & Hartford CT were open during the 1918-1919 pandemic.

In 1918 the decision to keep schools open was a means of public health tracking of families through the children who attended school.

Given this guidance, which seeks to avoid interruption to schools and student learning, contemporary public health practitioners and policymakers could learn a great deal from the experiences of the three cities that went against the grain during the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic and opted not to close the public schools. One important point of departure for understanding the atypical actions of New York City, Chicago, and New Haven is that these three cities viewed keeping schools open not as an abdication of public health responsibility, but as an opportunity to implement the public health strategies of school medical inspection and intensified disease surveillance. Indeed, the decisions of officials in New York City, Chicago, and New Haven were based not on disinterest but on a substantial commitment to the health of their diverse student bodies. By not mandating school closure, officials set a model that allowed private and parochial schools to remain open if they wished, although the historical record demonstrates that many chose to close.

There are no tracking plans in place today, in fact it would be considered an “invasion of privacy.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:53:05pm

re: #7 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Fred Sr —— Don —- Ivanka/Don Jr/Eric. Hopefully the fourth generation are reduced to low level monster behavior.

No expectations. Jarvanka are shit humans. Laric are shit humans. Jr left his wife with five kids (they may wind up ok… Remains to be seen). Barron’s mom is as fucking awful as his dad.

I can’t imagine many coming out ok.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:54:05pm

Sorry to be a bummer

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:54:35pm

So kids will be forced back to school next month without requiring masks or social distancing while wearing their bulletproof backpacks.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:54:46pm

re: #114 Jebediah, RBG

Monica Lewinsky did not deserve having everyone know her name in that way. All the mean-spirited jokes about her weren’t cool.

Gore’s loss in 2000 wasn’t due to Bill’s scandal. At the time Bill was impeached, he still had a very high approval rating. I lived in that era, and while I was angry that Bill did something like that, it never stopped me from voting for Gore. (I’m a local-elections nerd; I have voted for and against assholes in my town. Get out of here with “unexciting”, “boring” and “uninteresting”!)

What happened, was that Gore distanced himself from Clinton, as Democrats do, just to appease Republican voters. That, and Florida, was the perfect storm, just as 2016 would be. Then, as now, what the pundits and courtiers say, goes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:55:08pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:55:32pm

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if Barron will turn out to be a major asshole too?

The kids had virtually no chance. Both his parents and all his close family are awful people.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:56:18pm

re: #103 sagehen

Not at all.

JFK was a slut, but there’s never been any suggestion LBJ fucked around. Nixon’s long list of misdeeds does not include affairs. Jerry Ford didn’t cheat on Betty, Jimmy Carter didn’t cheat on Roslyn, Ronald Reagan didn’t cheat on Nancy. HW’s side-piece was ultra-discreet and it never became scandalous.

Clinton’s infidelity issues wasn’t about one affair with one intern, it was about a decades-long string of episodes with a long list of women.

I didn’t say he was the first to not have an affair. He was just the first seriously called out on it.

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KGxvi  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:57:01pm

re: #123 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

No expectations. Jarvanka are shit humans. Laric are shit humans. Jr left his wife with five kids (they may wind up ok… Remains to be seen). Barron’s mom is as fucking awful as his dad.

I can’t imagine many coming out ok.

Well, we can hold out hope that when Donny shuffles loose this mortal coil that Melina, the kids, and grandkids all fight over his estate in a way that leaves them all ultimately penniless.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:57:32pm

re: #128 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The kids had virtually no chance. Both his parents and all his close family are awful people.

Well, to be fair Tiffany seems to be a borderline reasonable human being.

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Jay C  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:57:33pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

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needs to be addressed before November

OK: I can understand pretty much most of the rejection of those ballots
(of course, my take is: KY made the absentee ballots as hard as possible to fill out and register correctly, to suppress voting, but never mind for now): but what are those 549 “Returned Not Deliverable”? Not deliverable to who? The State? The voter?

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:57:42pm

re: #108 makeitstop

As much as I wish, this will never happen here.

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We have to find a way to break the funding of Fox via the $2 cable tax.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:58:13pm

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if Barron will turn out to be a major asshole too?

His old man has no idea when his birthday is. He’s going to turn out to be another Damien.

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KGxvi  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:58:48pm

re: #129 Belafon

I didn’t say he was the first to not have an affair. He was just the first seriously called out on it.

It was part of a culture shift in the 90s. Wasn’t just in politics, but in sports and entertainment too. Personal lives became part of the story in a way that they hadn’t been before.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 7, 2020 • 12:59:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:01:48pm

re: #132 Jay C

OK: I can understand pretty much most of the rejection of those ballots
(of course, my take is: KY made the absentee ballots as hard as possible to fill out and register correctly, to suppress voting, but never mind for now): but what are those 549 “Returned Not Deliverable”? Not deliverable to who? The State? The voter?

I agree; when I said “needs to be addressed”, some voters obviously need to be educated on how to do the mail-in ballots.

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Jay C  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:02:08pm

re: #136 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

So basically, “Fuck you, bitch!”, but expressed with traditional Southern politeness….?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:04:14pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

I agree; when I said “needs to be addressed”, some voters obviously need to be educated on how to do the mail-in ballots.

also, I don’t get the”undeliverable” reason either. Voters had to request a mail-in ballot. Only thing I can think of is that they didn’t have an up-to-date currently valid address connected with their driver’s license/state ID.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:07:30pm

re: #138 Jay C

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So basically, “Fuck you, bitch!”, but expressed with traditional Southern politeness….?

“Bless your heart”

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Mattand  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:08:49pm

re: #16 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’ve always seen him as everything the rest of the country thinks they hate about New Yorkers. He’s loud, obnoxious, thinks his shit doesn’t shink, etc. That’s why it was so funny to see the GOP base with all their contempt for NYC embrace him. But in a lot of ways it was a match made in paradise because the GOP base is loud, obnoxious, and thinks their shit doesn’t stink.

Trump: “I wanna be President. I need your help.”

GOP Base: “Go to hell. You represent everything we detest, you NYC elitist.”

Trump: “I’ll be extra racist and enable white supremacy.”

GOP Base: “Gooooooo on..”

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austin_blue  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:09:27pm

re: #30 Ace Rothstein

Glad my shit doesn’t think.

Have you been tested for COVID? Symptom!

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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:09:36pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

This made me go check my ballot for the primary here in GA, ballot was accepted and counted. I need to see if I can request another for the general election.

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sagehen  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:09:39pm

re: #138 Jay C

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So basically, “Fuck you, bitch!”, but expressed with traditional Southern politeness….?

Bless your heart.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:09:56pm
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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:10:01pm

You might think Trump was trying to start a civil war.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:10:36pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:11:10pm

re: #141 Mattand

Trump: “I wanna be President. I need your help.”

GOP Base: “Go to hell. You represent everything we detest, you NYC elitist.”

Trump: “I’ll be extra racist and enable white supremacy.”

GOP Base: “Gooooooo on..”

TBH I thought Christie would never make it in the GOP primary because I thought GOP primary voters preferred low key assholes like Ted Cruz that code their rhetoric in religion.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:11:29pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Using the virus to gut the DOE.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:11:50pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hack whose brother paid for her job in blood money says what.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:12:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:13:21pm
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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:13:52pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

Billionaire who eagerly jumped into a position where she can make things even worse for poorer people.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:14:13pm

Did Mary get along with her family before this?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:14:22pm
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plansbandc  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:14:24pm

re: #149 Belafon

Yep. Using the virus to kill public schools.

Even the “Never Trumpers” are pretty excited about that prospect.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:14:42pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

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needs to be addressed before November

I’m a lawyer, and those ballots have a lot of instructions that have to be read carefully. It’s almost like a literacy test.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:15:50pm

re: #154 Belafon

Did Mary get along with her family before this?

I think there’s been friction since her dad died in the early 80’s.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:17:01pm

re: #156 plansbandc

Yep. Using the virus to kill public schools.

Even the “Never Trumpers” are pretty excited about that prospect.

The rural areas here in Texas rebelled against Republicans when they tried to allow charter school funding. This battle is going to get nuts in the GOP.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:17:29pm

re: #136 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Surprised Loeffler didn’t advocate for putting the Confederate Flag on the uniforms.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:18:00pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:18:25pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth
I want to know if all these rich fucks have their kids and grandkids headed back into classrooms in a few weeks. Why do I have a feeling their kids will be online and/or at home with a private tutor?

I know so many have no choice but to head back to work if they are called to do so, and there’s often no one to take care of the kids. Schools and after school programs fill a huge gap for many families. But at what cost? I cannot imagine the agony of this choice. Which is why the money being held back to families needs to be increased and regularly given until it’s safe again. I am so tired of the GOP refusing to invest in America. Without workers there are no businesses, if all your workers and customers are sick or dead then what happens? I am so pissed over so much right now, what’s left for these fucks to break? I’m scared to know.

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:18:28pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump and the rest of the Know-nothing right wing desire a raging pandemic that will specifically target the “parasites” of society- the oldest, the sickest, minorities, Immigrants, etc. Most Trumpsters believe themselves naturally above these perceived derelicts of society and will emerge even stronger than before. …or so goes the theory.

In actual reality, many of these reactionary narcissists will fall victim to their own paranoia and darwinism. And the “herd immunity” theory, currently the darling of the right wing, has not been proven effective for this virus nor has any easy vaccine emerged like magic. And a significant percentage refuse to even do one simple thing like wear protective masks. Opening schools is not about education. It is designed and planned murder of specific peoples- it is simple genocide.

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Mattand  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:18:57pm

re: #148 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

TBH I thought Christie would never make it in the GOP primary because I thought GOP primary voters preferred low key assholes like Ted Cruz that code their rhetoric in religion.

Yeah, as a resident here, I thought the same thing. Turns out that GOP voters did want that, just louder and more racist than what Christie provided.

I will say this for ol’ Chris: early on at least, if he had that inherit racist streak a lot of conservatives seem to have, he hid it well.

Among other things, he appointed a Muslim judge, which did not go over well with the GOP mouth breathers here. I’m not recalling any specific dog whistling on Christie’s part, either as governor or POTUS candidate. Probably wrong on that, though.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:19:59pm

re: #163 Florida Panhandler

Trump and the rest of the Know-nothing right wing desire a raging pandemic that will specifically target the “parasites” of society- the oldest, the sickest, minorities, Immigrants, etc. Most Trumpsters believe themselves naturally above these perceived derelicts of society and will emerge even stronger than before. …or so goes the theory.

In actual reality, many of these reactionary narcissists will fall victim to their own paranoia and darwinism. And the “herd immunity” theory, currently the darling of the right wing, has not been proven effective for this virus nor has any easy vaccine emerged like magic. And a significant percentage refuse to even do one simple thing like wear protective masks. Opening schools is not about education. It is designed and planned murder of specific peoples- it is simple genocide.

They want things to go back to normal so they can claim it’s all over for the election. Every teach and child that dies will just be a sacrifice to them. “Watering the tree of liberty” and some such.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:20:33pm

re: #157 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I’m a lawyer, and those ballots have a lot of instructions that have to be read carefully. It’s almost like a literacy test.

MrBWS read the instructions the day his ballot arrived and asked me if they were deliberately making it complicated.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:20:41pm

re: #164 Mattand

Yeah, as a resident here, I thought the same thing. Turns out that GOP voters did want that, just louder and more racist than what Christie provided.

I will say this for ol’ Chris: early on at least, if he had that inherit racist streak a lot of conservatives seems to have, he hid it well.

Among other things, he appointed a Muslim judge, which did not go over well with the GOP mouth breathers here. I’m not recalling any specific dog whistling on Christie’s part, either as governor or POTUS candidate. Probably wrong on that, though.

I think Christie is just an asshole as opposed to most Republicans who are usually an adjective asshole. Trump is a racist asshole, Pence is a homophobic asshole, & Cruz is an assholic asshole.

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Mattand  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:22:31pm

re: #167 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I think Christie is just an asshole as opposed to most Republicans who are usually an adjective asshole. Trump is a racist asshole, Pence is a homophobic asshole, & Cruz is an assholic asshole.

I heard the Zodiac killer was an assholic asshole.

COINCIDENCE???????

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:22:49pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS read the instructions the day his ballot arrived and asked me if they were deliberately making it complicated.

It wouldn’t surprise me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:23:01pm

O_o

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:23:59pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:24:18pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O_o

Not at all like President pussy grabber, who wanted to date his daughter.

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Mattand  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:24:46pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

“…but as a person who breathes air and exercises brain capacity.”

O_o

Citation needed, KC.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:26:26pm

re: #103 sagehen

Not at all.

JFK was a slut, but there’s never been any suggestion LBJ fucked around. Nixon’s long list of misdeeds does not include affairs. Jerry Ford didn’t cheat on Betty, Jimmy Carter didn’t cheat on Roslyn, Ronald Reagan didn’t cheat on Nancy. HW’s side-piece was ultra-discreet and it never became scandalous.

Clinton’s infidelity issues wasn’t about one affair with one intern, it was about a decades-long string of episodes with a long list of women.

I’ve always said I don’t care who a president is fucking as long as it’s not me. What they do consensually is their business.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:26:36pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

Sure Kellyanne, I remember Joe talking about groping women, talked about dating his daughter, & talked about a journalist’s menstrual cycle. Oh wait, that’s the guy you’ve spent the past four years enabling not Joe. Seriously cut the fucking crap.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:27:29pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

HOLY SHIT! The Russians are sure they can finish us off this year and they are willing to sacrifice Trump’s re-election to do it. They are going for maximum damage from him and his gang instead, possibly in the belief that he will lose anyway. That won’t keep them from a maximum effort on the election, of course, but I really think they would rather have the damage.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:27:42pm

re: #172 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Not at all like President pussy grabber, who wanted to date his daughter.

She deserves to be linked with Trump forever. Fuck her for trashing Biden’s character while she has been an enabler of Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:28:41pm

re: #168 Mattand

I heard the Zodiac killer was an assholic asshole.

COINCIDENCE???????

Ted Cruz is less likable than a seventh period Friday pop quiz. Prove me wrong.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:30:19pm

re: #177 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

She deserves to be linked with Trump forever. Fuck her for trashing Biden’s character while she has been an enabler of Trump.

Guarantee that next year there will be a bidding war between Fox News and CNN for her services.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:31:05pm

re: #179 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Guarantee that next year there will be a bidding war between Fox News and CNN for her services.

She’s going to have a book to peddle too.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:31:14pm

re: #138 Jay C

So basically, “Fuck you, bitch!”, but expressed with traditional Southern politeness….?

She can Kiss My Grits….

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:31:43pm

re: #176 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

HOLY SHIT! The Russians are sure they can finish us off this year and they are willing to sacrifice Trump’s re-election to do it. They are going for maximum damage from him and his gang instead, possibly in the belief that he will lose anyway. That won’t keep them from a maximum effort on the election, of course, but I really think they would rather have the damage.

Putin: Betsy, I have a task for you.
DeVos: Sorry, but I’ve got an education system to destroy.

She doesn’t need any encouragement.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:34:46pm

re: #182 Belafon

Putin: Betsy, I have a task for you.
DeVos: Sorry, but I’ve got an education system to destroy.

She doesn’t need any encouragement.

Her family has had a hard on against public education for years.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:35:17pm

re: #131 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, to be fair Tiffany seems to be a borderline reasonable human being.

I don’t know enough about her to agree or disagree. What do you know about her?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:35:41pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:37:36pm

re: #184 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I don’t know enough about her to agree or disagree. What do you know about her?

Not much, except that she seems to have little desire to be in the spotlight and, if she does have racist and/or extremist views, seems to know well enough that it wouldn’t be wise to broadcast that fact to the world.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:37:51pm

And then there’s Betsy’s brother Erik who is a war profiteer who wants to turn our military into his sick fantasy.

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nines09  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:37:53pm

This guy can flat out bounce.

Mandatory Bouncy Coopster
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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:39:32pm

re: #184 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She just got a law degree if I remember correctly. I think she keeps a low profile and her mom has been very protective of her. She may have a shot at being a decent human. Because she’s not a media hog like her other siblings she flies under the radar a lot.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:42:59pm

re: #189 A Mom Anon

She just got a law degree if I remember correctly. I think she keeps a low profile and her mom has been very protective of her. She may have a shot at being a decent human. Because she’s not a media hog like her other siblings she flies under the radar a lot.

Marla spent the shortest time of the three wives with Donald. That’s not a coincidence imo.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:44:24pm

re: #182 Belafon

Putin: Betsy, I have a task for you.
DeVos: Sorry, but I’ve got an education system to destroy.

She doesn’t need any encouragement.

They could restrain her if they saw the need.

Putin: “Look, Betsy, we don’t like the little peasants and those raggedy-ass beggars who teach them any better than you do, but it would hurt the boss’s chances if a couple of million of them come down with the ‘rona right before the election.”

Betsy: “Herd immunity! Free enterprise! Share the loot!”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:47:50pm

I am so glad that asshole states with Republican governors are now dealing with the fire that is SARS-CoV2. And I will be more than glad when it is discovered that said governors decided to suppress the infection rate reporting. And when teachers decide that its too risky to be in front of their students-who can blame them?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:49:33pm

Good. Trump can’t save him.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:51:43pm

re: #186 Eclectic Cyborg

Not much, except that she seems to have little desire to be in the spotlight and, if she does have racist and/or extremist views, seems to know well enough that it wouldn’t be wise to broadcast that fact to the world.

I’ll agree with that much. I can’t agree with any statement that she’s a good person without more info, info that I’ve not seen

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:51:54pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

And we care about Kelly Conwoman’s feelings of unease because …? She works for an accused rapist.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:54:04pm

re: #189 A Mom Anon

She just got a law degree if I remember correctly. I think she keeps a low profile and her mom has been very protective of her. She may have a shot at being a decent human. Because she’s not a media hog like her other siblings she flies under the radar a lot.

I don’t have an opinion about her, really, but I’m a long way from saying she’s a good person.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:54:32pm
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makeitstop  Jul 7, 2020 • 1:56:30pm

re: #138 Jay C

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So basically, “Fuck you, bitch!”, but expressed with traditional Southern politeness….?

Needs a ‘bless your heart’ at the end.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:00:59pm

In light of “open the schools!”:

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:01:20pm

I’m assuming Ken’s statements about ICE’s announcement will be used against them later.

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stpaulbear  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:03:00pm

re: #49 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I sometimes think about how badly Bill Clinton screwed the country over because he couldn’t keep his pants zipped. No Lewinsky scandal, Gore would probably have been elected President in 2000, and Hillary probably would’ve won in 2016. Of course lots of the hypocritical Republicans who impeached him were screwing around as well.

Bill Clinton made some really stupid mistakes, but he was a popular and productive president and you can hardly say that he screwed over the country while at the same time Tom Foley, Newt Gingrich and Dennis Hastert were speakers of the house. What a fucking trio of sleaze.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:04:52pm

re: #193 Patricia Kayden

Good. Trump can’t save him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:06:35pm
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Ferdinand  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:08:14pm

re: #121 Nojay UK

Where are they going to get the teachers to “open” the schools? A lot of them will just not go back into classrooms that were always plague-pits even in the best of times — chicken pox, colds, flu, all the regular childhood diseases. If they’re told “go back to work or get fired” they’ll quit or retire. Many of the the ones that do go back will get sick and drop out, some of them will die, replacements will be hard to find.

After the damage is done the schools will close again simply because the teachers and other staff aren’t there any more.

Exactly the conclusion my OKC high school teacher wife and I have reached. It’s going to be a disaster.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:10:21pm

I will be totally not surprised if he issues an executive order overriding Governors (like Whitmer) who have required statewide public masking and other safety measures. Withholding vital funding if they resist.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:11:34pm

re: #205 The Pie Overlord!

I will be totally not surprised if he issues an executive order overriding Governors (like Whitmer) who have required statewide public masking and other safety measures. Withholding vital funding if they resist.

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And there will be much laughter from said governors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:11:42pm

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Records show that Lofthouse emigrated to the United States in 2010, originally living in New York City. Lofthouse graduated from Newcastle Business School in 2005. He studied business at the school, which is associated with Northumbria University, located in the northeast of England, according to his now-deleted LinkedIn page. Lofthouse’s Twitter page has been suspended due to a violation of Twitter’s rules.

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In July 2016, Lofthouse was found guilty of vandalism and sentenced to two days in prison, three years probation and 80 hours of community service. As a result of the case, Lofthouse also had a restraining order placed upon him. Lofthouse had also been facing charges of domestic battery and the destruction of telephone lines. Those charges were dismissed.

heavy.com

he should be deported posthaste

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:12:38pm

What happens when schools open in the fall and half the kids and half the teachers don’t show up? In some states they will threaten the parents and tell the kids they will be held back, etc. I know trump will try to take a few of these cases to court, but then what? They never plan past a day or two. FT

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:13:54pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have a feeling the eagle won.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:15:30pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I clicked on your axios link and this jumped out at me:

“Why it matters: Trump was furious when he found out recently that Mary Trump, a trained psychologist, would be publishing a tell-all memoir.”

I prefer untrained, myself.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:16:52pm

JFC this family is chock full of idiots.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:20:19pm

re: #211 The Pie Overlord!

JFC this family is chock full of idiots.

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I think we’ll have a much more convincing warning on November 3rd.

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nines09  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:21:01pm

re: #12 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if Barron will turn out to be a major asshole too?

Worse.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:22:58pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:25:30pm
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KGxvi  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:25:33pm

re: #201 stpaulbear

Bill Clinton made some really stupid mistakes, but he was a popular and productive president and you can hardly say that he screwed over the country while at the same time Tom Foley, Newt Gingrich and Dennis Hastert were speakers of the house. What a fucking trio of sleaze.

A more fun “what if” is what if the Clintons had moved to California or Illinois after law school? Does Hillary have a political career first? And how does it play out?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:28:13pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

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On ICE’s new mandate to deport students who don’t transfer to F2F-teaching schools and loss to universities and their communities: they don’t care about the financial losses; that is also the point. They hate higher education and want to see it severely scaled back—it started decades ago as GOP-dominated state legislatures slashed funding. Yes, there are lots of stories about colleges with bloated admin., and that’s true, but it all got started because states stopped most funding. Now, by circumstance, they’ve found themselves with a big win: get rid of international students and punish higher ed.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:28:18pm

No wonder trump is trying to block tiktok in the US.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:28:30pm

re: #188 nines09

This guy can flat out bounce.

Totally digging the action shots of Cooper.

He’s bouncy, bouncy, bouncy, bouncy, fun, fun, fun, fun ,fun, but the most wonderful thing about Cooper is he’s the only one.

[I sing this all the time to Teddy (using his name, of course), especially on our way down 3 flights of stairs to go out.]

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KGxvi  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:28:32pm

re: #215 Ace-o-aces

I love the cognitive dissonance involved:

Wingnut: america is the greatest example of self-government ever!

Non-wingnut: yeah, true, but hey, how about we change a couple of these laws?

Wingnut: What? Why? We are great!

Non-wingnut: yeah, but we can be better, and this is a really flawed policy

Wingnut: COMMUNIST! How dare you change us! We are great!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:28:48pm

re: #209 Ace Rothstein

I have a feeling the eagle won.

good guess

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EPR-radar  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:31:32pm

re: #220 KGxvi

I love the cognitive dissonance involved:

Wingnut: america is the greatest example of self-government ever!

Non-wingnut: yeah, true, but hey, how about we change a couple of these laws?

Wingnut: What? Why? We are great!

Non-wingnut: yeah, but we can be better, and this is a really flawed policy

Wingnut: COMMUNIST! How dare you change us! We are great!

Meanwhile, wingnut reactionaries are busily rewriting laws to corruptly benefit themselves and their rich masters.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:36:35pm

re: #215 Ace-o-aces

Once you get this crap “the greatest gift of freedom the world has ever known”, you know they’re full of it.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:36:47pm

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:36:57pm

re: #77 makeitstop

Like Lawhawk says, he’d be ‘Donny from Queens,’ barely scraping by on his draw from the car dealership and calling Rushbo to deliver megadittoes.

You guys give him too much credit for having some potential useful employable trait. I always said if he wasn’t born into money he would be trading handjobs for cigs under a bridge somewhere.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:38:54pm

re: #211 The Pie Overlord!

Yeah! Leave the ripping off of the US to your dad, family and all his buddies. That’ll show em Eric! Daddy loves you now!!!

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nines09  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:45:18pm

re: #219 Teddy’s Person

He flat out runs until empty. I’m older but this guy is on GO all the time, more so than my other mutts.
Not kidding when I say smart ass.
Take my eye off him for 30 seconds and BOOM.
He can go in 3 directions at once.
Trying to break the digging. First dog I had who loves to dig.
Soft garden earth…mmmmmmm…..so easy to…
And he LOVES to get wet.
We sat and thought, what if we got him in like November? Now all this energy is in the house?!??
He is a ball of energy. Like a 4 year old with matches.
And he knows where the gasoline is…..
He’s needy right now, still the puppy, but what a snuggler.
Love Bunny.
He can really bounce.
Not jump.
BOUNCE.
I’ll try to get one, the first one today shows the height.
“And the scorecards are up…….8.75…….8.90……9.00….and……9.25…”

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mmmirele  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:45:53pm

re: #24 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Arizona’s daily death reports seem to peak on Tuesday (probably weekend delays), and sure enough today reported 117 deaths, the highest single day report yet for Arizona.

It will probably get worse.

And my idiot congressman (Andy Biggs) continues to cherry pick stats. I follow up with the combined snapshot. He is all about MUH RAHTS and MUH FREEDUMBS and it makes me crazy.

In good news, Mountainside Fitness is closing after a judge declined to issue a restraining order to force Gov. Ducey to let his gyms remain open.

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Thanos  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:47:13pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

I’ve always said that while Trump definitely is a dimwit, a dumbass, and an incurious clod, it’s a little too simplistic to just call him “stupid” and leave it at that. Because he may not be intelligent in the normal human sense, but he’s preternaturally gifted in one thing: scams. Cons. Swindles. He’s a natural born con man who uses a combination of tactics to avoid consequences while committing blatant crimes.

You don’t get to the White House by just being “stupid.” A century ago he’d have been a very successful carnival operator or snake oil salesman. He’s an archetypal American upper-class criminal.

Ignorant but with low cunning.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:47:31pm

My daughter at Yale reports that students are asking for a one credit in person class called “fuck Ice 101.” I do think that many colleges are going to have one class in person to get around this.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:53:26pm

wrt the “what if” about Donny from Queens: “The President Show” had a great (and really dark) skit about who would DJT be without the handout from his dad. It shows him in a track suit with other lowlifes trying to pull penny scams around the neighborhood.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 2:59:20pm

Journalists persisting in not getting it.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:01:18pm
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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:03:42pm
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Mattand  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:04:41pm

re: #193 Patricia Kayden

Good. Trump can’t save him.

Tech CEO Launches Shocking Racist Tirade at Asian Family: ‘Trump’s Gonna F**k You’ — WATCH tlrd.us

They know.

This guy. Amy Cooper in NYC. Former cop Derek Chauvin in Minneapolis. Every goddamned Karen and Becky from Maine to California.

They know that just about everyone has a smartphone with a decent video camera, particlulary in cities.

They know. And yet, they still do it.

They still make racist, ignorant remarks and threats. They in some cases actually kill people.

They know this behavior will go viral in a matter of minutes, if not seconds, and possibly destroy their jobs and lives.

And they still do it.

The combination of hubris, racism, and arrogance in white people is fucking frightening.

Even with the threat of their lives being destroyed, they still persist in acting like it’s 1927 and that, somehow, they will be the ones to escape repercussions of their vile behavior being instantly transmitted across the globe.

They know and they still persist in behaving like monsters.

What am I missing here?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:06:45pm

Trump must be a fucking idiot if he thinks millions of Americans will be happy to put their kids safety at risk for him.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:07:40pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

His cultists are just gone enough to do it.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:12:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:15:57pm

re: #232 jaunte

Journalists persisting in not getting it.

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I have been a journalist for 40 years.
I taught at university level for more than a decade (one of my classes was Ethics in Journalism).
Yes, I have no problem calling out lies as LIES.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:16:19pm

re: #235 Mattand

Hate and spite give people a hit, just like any other addictive substance. It also makes you stupid if you imbibe long enough. And nobody makes good choices consumed by anger. But, that’s no excuse and most of them know what they’re doing. I think some of them truly believe that it won’t have bad results for them because nothing has in the past. When there have never been consequences and you have been insulated from any fallout, there’s no reason to stop.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:16:37pm

re: #235 Mattand

They know.

This guy. Amy Cooper in NYC. Former cop Derek Chauvin in Minneapolis. Every goddamned Karen and Becky from Maine to California.

They know that just about everyone has a smartphone with a decent video camera, particlulary in cities.

They know. And yet, they still do it.

They still make racist, ignorant remarks and threats. They in some cases actually kill people.

They know this behavior will go viral in a matter of minutes, if not seconds, and possibly destroy their jobs and lives.

And they still do it.

The combination of hubris, racism, and arrogance in white people is fucking frightening.

Even with the threat of their lives being destroyed, they still persist in acting like it’s 1927 and that, somehow, they will be the ones to escape repercussions of their vile behavior being instantly transmitted across the globe.

They know and they still persist in behaving like monsters.

What am I missing here?

same as the virus

they think they may get infected but they won’t die. they don’t think of any other consequences

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piratedan  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:16:48pm

re: #235 Mattand

not a damn thing, it’s like they got a phone call from Charles Bronson (Telefon) and their sleeper cell racist identities have been activated….

243
jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:17:28pm

TX GOPer still doesn’t understand that infectious diseases are transmitted.

244
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:17:42pm

re: #240 A Mom Anon

Hate and spite give people a hit, just like any other addictive substance. It also makes you stupid if you imbibe long enough. And nobody makes good choices consumed by anger. But, that’s no excuse and most of them know what they’re doing. I think some of them truly believe that it won’t have bad results for them because nothing has in the past. When there have never been consequences and you have been insulated from any fallout, there’s no reason to stop.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:18:44pm

re: #242 piratedan

not a damn thing, it’s like they got a phone call from Charles Bronson (Telefon) and their sleeper cell racist identities have been activated….

yeah but donald pleasence made the calls

246
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:23:34pm

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump must be a fucking idiot if he thinks millions of Americans will be happy to put their kids safety at risk for him.

he doesn’t understand that, unlike him and his spawn and his minions, there are a lot of Americans, like all of us here, who actually love our children and don’t see them as props.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:25:20pm
248
jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:26:56pm

Visited the local general store in way rural southeast Texas, and 90% of the customers and staff were wearing masks, up from about 10% two weeks ago. The news may be settling in.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:27:56pm

re: #233 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

Not if he kills the Confederates off

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:30:41pm

re: #243 jaunte

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:30:50pm

re: #248 jaunte

Visited the local general store in way rural southeast Texas, and 90% of the customers and staff were wearing masks, up from about 10% two weeks ago. The news may be settling in.

if by “the news’ you mean reality…

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:33:42pm

re: #250 Belafon

I’m sure he’d be fine with parents who keep their kids out of public school to keep them from being infected with socialism.

253
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:34:59pm

crackpot
jackass
asshat
I’m running out of appropriate words

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:35:39pm

I have to admit Ari Melber irritates the fck out of me. Simultaneously smug and earnest, bad combo. Get off my lawn Ari.

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Jack Burton  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:36:43pm

re: #253 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

crackpot
jackass
asshat
I’m running out of appropriate words

[Embedded content]

People doing this should be in prison. It’s way beyond just being a jackass now.

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KGxvi  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:36:49pm

For shits and giggles, I decided to look up the confederacy’s constitution. Holy shit, was that government destined to fail even if they survived the war.

President is limited to one six-year term. Appropriations require two-thirds of both Houses of Congress to pass. Two-thirds of both Houses required for new states (but the Senate votes by state for some reason?). It only took three states to call a constitutional convention…

Beyond the question of the continuation of slavery, there’s just simply no way that government wouldn’t have eventually broken down and failed miserably.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:37:10pm

re: #234 jaunte

I wish I could laugh.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:37:49pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

I have to admit Ari Melber irritates the fck out of me. Simultaneously smug and earnest, bad combo. Get off my lawn Ari.

He should have let Barbara Res speak more instead of deferring to the professional mouthpieces so much.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:38:17pm

re: #243 jaunte

TX GOPer still doesn’t understand that infectious diseases are transmitted.

[Embedded content]

Ages 10-19: 2 deaths, or 0.4%

statesman.com

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:39:16pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

He’s awkward when he raps but he appears harmless to me.

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piratedan  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:42:00pm

re: #245 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

well I still have miles to go before I sleep…… ty for the correction.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:42:02pm

re: #224 Teddy’s Person

I have a feeling that the people who are mask-averse are perfectly fine with the “Whites only” signs from back in the good old days.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:45:15pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:45:53pm

re: #261 piratedan

well I still have miles to go before I sleep…… ty for the correction.

its a fave. ;-)

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Decatur Deb  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:47:03pm

re: #256 KGxvi

For shits and giggles, I decided to look up the confederacy’s constitution. Holy shit, was that government destined to fail even if they survived the war.

President is limited to one six-year term. Appropriations require two-thirds of both Houses of Congress to pass. Two-thirds of both Houses required for new states (but the Senate votes by state for some reason?). It only took three states to call a constitutional convention…

Beyond the question of the continuation of slavery, there’s just simply no way that government wouldn’t have eventually broken down and failed miserably.

The punch line is in the Preamble:

“We, the people of the Confederate States, each state acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity — invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God — do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:48:44pm

But then I also have to admit pretty much everything is irritating the fck out of me lately.

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SteelPH  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:49:30pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

But then I also have to admit pretty much everything is irritating the fck out of me lately.

You aren’t alone in that notion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:51:21pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

But then I also have to admit pretty much everything is irritating the fck out of me lately.

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EPR-radar  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:54:26pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Stelter says it’s “sad” to see a book like this come out. Fuck that.

The only thing that’s sad about this book coming out is the timing — it should have been timed for the 2016 election.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:58:20pm
271
EPR-radar  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:58:24pm

re: #265 Decatur Deb

The punch line is in the Preamble:

“We, the people of the Confederate States, each state acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity — invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God — do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America.

Yes, secession being explicitly banned in the CSA is one of the best examples of that movement having no principles other than a desire to enslave black people for profit.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 7, 2020 • 3:58:36pm

I took a look over in freeper land to see what was being said about Mary’s book, it was really early on after the first leak, not pretty.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:00:14pm

re: #272 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I took a look over in freeper land to see what was being said about Mary’s book, it was really early on after the first leak, not pretty.

In what respect?

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EPR-radar  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:00:42pm

re: #270 Dread Pirate

Imagine the revenue Heaven could generate by putting dead Karens demanding to speak with St Peter’s manager on pay per view.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:02:28pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:02:44pm

re: #235 Mattand

One word: entitlement.

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Interesting Times  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:03:26pm

re: #272 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I took a look over in freeper land to see what was being said about Mary’s book, it was really early on after the first leak, not pretty.

278
Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:03:31pm

Well, look who wants to suckle from America’s titty now.

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KGxvi  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:06:32pm

re: #278 Dread Pirate

Norquist has always (even in my most libertarian days) struck me as a Fuck You I Got Mine guy. And those guys are always looking to get one over on anyone else where they can

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:06:55pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:08:24pm

re: #280 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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“In 2016, Donald Trump was elected President of the United States — no, come on, you gotta be fucking kidding. No one would ever vote for that big of a fucking moron.”

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retired cynic  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:16:01pm

Why a Biden Administration Shouldn’t Turn the Page on the Trump Era
The Obama-Biden administration wanted to move forward rather than hold Wall Street bankers and CIA torturers accountable. If elected, Biden should follow FDR’s playbook and expose his predecessor’s corruption and mismanagement instead.

by Kevin Kruse! in Vanity Fair

This time around, Democrats should learn from Obama’s mistakes and Roosevelt’s successes. Policies follow politics, and before any administration can “move forward,” it first has to make clear what it’s moving forward from, and why. Leaders have to tell a story before they turn the page.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:16:38pm
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lawhawk  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:23:21pm

re: #282 retired cynic

Why a Biden Administration Shouldn’t Turn the Page on the Trump Era
The Obama-Biden administration wanted to move forward rather than hold Wall Street bankers and CIA torturers accountable. If elected, Biden should follow FDR’s playbook and expose his predecessor’s corruption and mismanagement instead.

by Kevin Kruse! in Vanity Fair

Hold hearings. Investigate - educate the population about how Trump and GOP know nothing hot takes left the nation fucked from covid19.

Oh, and prosecute the treasonweasels who sold out the nation to foreign powers and who think that working with foreign powers to throw our election is okay.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:30:06pm

re: #278 Dread Pirate

[Embedded content]

Well, look who wants to suckle from America’s titty now.

He’s been suckling lower than that for a long time!
///

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:31:17pm

Repeating myself, but we should all remember that Trump got more votes than any other Republican who has run for President.

Sure, his numbers are down now.

Come the fall, I wonder what percentage of his 2016 vote total will be the final result?

I’m expecting at least 90%.

Sure, the Trumpers are pretty quiet on my Facebook timeline, but some of them appear to have unfriended me anyway. The remaining ones are very quiet, for now. Only one has posted a Trump-promoting meme in the past 10 days or so.

Biden is going for the token VP - I am sorry to use the word “token” but that is my gut reaction to the short list that keeps getting floated. If he picks any woman, or any person of color, I fully expect that most of the people who voted for Trump to react negatively to Biden’s choice and vote for Trump again.

Because Trumpers knew what Trump was in 2016. They voted for Trump exactly because he is Trump. He is what they want.

I suspect Biden will win anyway because PA and MI and AZ and probably FL are going to swing just enough to Biden to flip those electoral votes.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:31:22pm

re: #283 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:32:52pm

re: #279 KGxvi

Norquist has always (even in my most libertarian days) struck me as a Fuck You I Got Mine guy. And those guys are always looking to get one over on anyone else where they can

He said once that the average couple “didn’t need government. They have the Second Amendment.’ You can be sure, though, that he’s pro-cop, especially pro-roid-cop.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:36:26pm

US death totals today are the highest in a month.

The holiday delayed some reporting.

Yet the increase is still noticeable.

A week from now is going to be interesting to me because it will be a bit more than a month before the supposed GOP national convention and if deaths continue to climb it will be very difficult for any governor to ignore the death totals.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:37:11pm
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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:37:53pm

re: #286 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Repeating myself, but we should all remember that Trump got more votes than any other Republican who has run for President.

Sure, his numbers are down now.

Come the fall, I wonder what percentage of his 2016 vote total will be the final result?

I’m expecting at least 90%.

Sure, the Trumpers are pretty quiet on my Facebook timeline, but some of them appear to have unfriended me anyway. The remaining ones are very quiet, for now. Only one has posted a Trump-promoting meme in the past 10 days or so.

Biden is going for the token VP - I am sorry to use the word “token” but that is my gut reaction to the short list that keeps getting floated. If he picks any woman, or any person of color, I fully expect that most of the people who voted for Trump to react negatively to Biden’s choice and vote for Trump again.

Because Trumpers knew what Trump was in 2016. They voted for Trump exactly because he is Trump. He is what they want.

I suspect Biden will win anyway because PA and MI and AZ and probably FL are going to swing just enough to Biden to flip those electoral votes.

That’s why no one is trying for the Trump voters except for the Lincoln Project people.

And I’m sorry, but if Kamala Harris or any other woman is token then just give it all up now.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:39:33pm

re: #235 Mattand

They know.

This guy. Amy Cooper in NYC. Former cop Derek Chauvin in Minneapolis. Every goddamned Karen and Becky from Maine to California.

They know that just about everyone has a smartphone with a decent video camera, particlulary in cities.

They know. And yet, they still do it.

They still make racist, ignorant remarks and threats. They in some cases actually kill people.

They know this behavior will go viral in a matter of minutes, if not seconds, and possibly destroy their jobs and lives.

And they still do it.

The combination of hubris, racism, and arrogance in white people is fucking frightening.

Even with the threat of their lives being destroyed, they still persist in acting like it’s 1927 and that, somehow, they will be the ones to escape repercussions of their vile behavior being instantly transmitted across the globe.

They know and they still persist in behaving like monsters.

What am I missing here?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:41:09pm

re: #248 jaunte

Visited the local general store in way rural southeast Texas, and 90% of the customers and staff were wearing masks, up from about 10% two weeks ago. The news may be settling in.

Anywhere near Bridge City? My oldest graduated high school from Bridge City.

294
garzooma  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:41:22pm

IHME is now projecting 208,255 COVID-19 US deaths by November 1, 2020.

295
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:42:37pm

care home workers there were wearing bin bags because they had no access to PPE

Boris can just take a fecking seat

296
jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:42:55pm

re: #293 Eventual Carrion

Not that far southeast! Close to Brenham.

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gwangung  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:43:15pm

re: #284 lawhawk

Hold hearings. Investigate - educate the population about how Trump and GOP know nothing hot takes left the nation fucked from covid19.

Oh, and prosecute the treasonweasels who sold out the nation to foreign powers and who think that working with foreign powers to throw our election is okay.

Easier for Biden to prosecute because it’ll be harder (though not impossible) for the defense to bamboozle a jury.

Finance crimes are VERY easy to get an acquittal from. Think reams and reams of numbers before a panel of half innumerate idiots….

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Jack Burton  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:43:53pm

re: #283 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

[Embedded content]

I know Trump is just being… well Clownstick here. That said tiktok is a security nightmare and no one should be using it and it should be banned.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:44:20pm

re: #291 Belafon

And I’m sorry, but if Kamala Harris or any other woman is token then just give it all up now.

I wanted to vote for Harris in the primary but she withdrew before I had a chance. The yet-again-disaster of the DNC collapsed the field down to Biden and Bernie, neither of whom I wanted.

But frankly putting the mayor of Atlanta on a list really is tokenism. It really is only an attempt to correct the image (an image based in part in reality) that Biden is yet another old white guy and that only old white guys are viable to run for President.

We are not doing well here in the US. It’s not just the fact that Trump is President. That alone tells us that American polity has run aground. But we also need to look at the failure of the nomination processes, and the failure to have a real democracy (e.g., the electoral college and the Senate need Constitutional reforms.)

The blathering of empty patriotism that flows from the religious right and money-right is just a fig leaf to cover up what everyone knows - the US needs fundamental reforms.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:44:32pm

re: #283 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

[Embedded content]

Pompeo has no fucking clue how the internet works if he thinks banning TicTok will stop those kids.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:45:08pm
302
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:45:32pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

care home workers there were wearing bin bags because they had no access to PPE

Boris can just take a fecking seat

BoJo is where Trump got the asinine idea that we could just ride this out and develop “herd immunity”, and I will never forgive him for that. Everything since then has been, SEE, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE IF WE HAD JUST RIPPED OFF THE BAND-AID AND LET THE DISEASE INFECT US ALL!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:47:09pm

re: #291 Belafon

That’s why no one is trying for the Trump voters except for the Lincoln Project people.

And I’m sorry, but if Kamala Harris or any other woman is token then just give it all up now.

At this point, Biden is the token white male.

just my small opinion…

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:47:44pm

re: #299 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I wanted to vote for Harris in the primary but she withdrew before I had a chance. The yet-again-disaster of the DNC collapsed the field down to Biden and Bernie, neither of whom I wanted.

But frankly putting the mayor of Atlanta on a list really is tokenism. It really is only an attempt to correct the image (an image based in part in reality) that Biden is yet another old white guy and that only old white guys are viable to run for President.

We are not doing well here in the US. It’s not just the fact that Trump is President. That alone tells us that American polity has run aground. But we also need to look at the failure of the nomination processes, and the failure to have a real democracy (e.g., the electoral college and the Senate need Constitutional reforms.)

The blathering of empty patriotism that flows from the religious right and money-right is just a fig leaf to cover up what everyone knows - the US needs fundamental reforms.

The DNC didn’t vote in South Carolina, its residents did. Bernie was caused by the obvious misogyny in 2016.

Harris was my first choice, Warren was my second. But Biden will do just fine, especially if we get the Senate.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:52:30pm

Joe Guzman, who teaches astronomy in Chicago, is one of my favorite Facebook friends.

Facebook Post

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:56:22pm

re: #273 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

In what respect?

Accusing her of lying and wanting his money.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 4:56:38pm

re: #298 Jack Burton

I know Trump is just being… well Clownstick here. That said tiktok is a security nightmare and no one should be using it and it should be banned.

I know. I’m glad for what the kids are doing but as you said. 😢

308
The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:05:09pm

I. AM. DED. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

309
gocart mozart  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:07:19pm

The MAGA’s are currently trying to cancel Ilhan Omar for saying this

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:07:36pm
311
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:08:20pm

Please dog, now that Bolsonaro is infected, please infect Trump. Please.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:08:24pm

re: #309 gocart mozart

The MAGA’s are currently trying to cancel Ilhan Omar for saying this

[Embedded content]

My dad absolutely has a bee in his bonnet for Ilhan Omar, saying she’s an enemy of the United States and an ISIS terrorist and all that shit. For my part, I think she’s awesome and I love that she triggers him so hard. You go, girl.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:17:06pm

re: #311 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Please dog, now that Bolsonaro is infected, please infect Trump. Please.

Wouldn’t it be a hoot if both of them bit the dirt?

You know, four years ago, I would never have said something like that in public. Four years of Trump and Russian stooges and their savage, moronic cultists, though, is something like a year in Vietnam: It is brutalizing in the sense of making one brutal and callous. It can harden your heart.
If this seems a stretch, well it is, but if Trump can compare his nightclub pussy-grabs to war service then I can certainly compare living under his barbarous regime to it. I actually served in Vietnam, and I know whereof I speak far better than he does.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:24:09pm

re: #308 The Pie Overlord!

I. AM. DED. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Embedded content]

my favorite part is:

… ma kids have asthma when it suits them …

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:37:26pm

re: #102 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Gimme the warrior. Hard no on the dweeb in the khakis.

Yeah, not so tough to choose between bad-ass and candy-ass!

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austin_blue  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:53:26pm

re: #302 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

BoJo is where Trump got the asinine idea that we could just ride this out and develop “herd immunity”, and I will never forgive him for that. Everything since then has been, SEE, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE IF WE HAD JUST RIPPED OFF THE BAND-AID AND LET THE DISEASE INFECT US ALL!!!!!

Herd immunity requires > 60% (some say 70%, some 80%) of the Gen Pop to get infected. The problem there is that this thing has been running loose for +/- 19 weeks, we are still at less than 1% infected.

It’s all in the numbers, people. It will take a couple of years and 20,000,000 dead to achieve it.

And I thought we would have a vaccine this fall?

(note: Marburg/Ebola flavors starters showing up in 1978. No vaccine yet. Ditto for AIDS.)

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PrairieQueen  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:16:59pm

re: #308 The Pie Overlord!

Is that Karen Maples? “You can’t get pregnant through your mask.” I learned something new today. Bless her heart. //


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Norah Jones - to Live "To Live" is taken from Norah's newest album 'Pick Me Up Off The Floor,' out now and available to stream/download here: norahjones.lnk.to Connect with Norah:norahjones.cominstagram.comfacebook.com@NorahJones See Norah live: norahjones.com Music video by Norah Jones performing To Live. © 2020 ...
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Future Islands - for Sure (Official Video) 'For Sure' by Future Islands, out now on all platforms: futureislands.ffm.to A Film by Samuel Jerome MasonFinishing by John HarrisonRendered with GarageFarmSpecial Thanks to Anna, Jemima, Mike, Willy, Saad, Eric, Arsen Perish the painI was impoverishedThose ties that windAnd ...
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Andrew McMahon in the Wilderness - Get on My Wave I wrote and produced “Get On My Wave” with Kyle “King Tuff” Thomas the day we met last summer. I’ve struggled with releasing the song during the pandemic because it felt too happy; detached from the tumult of our ...
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