Now for Something Different: A Genuinely Creepy Horror Short: “Other Side of the Box” [VIDEO]

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“It’s no secret that horror shorts have the propensity to be formulaic: creepy thing in the shadows menaces protagonist, and then, finally pops out for a final jump scare. Boom! Cut to black…rinse and repeat…

Granted, there are various takes on the template, often dependent on a high-concept hook or elevated by production polish. But, when you boil it down, films of the genre often fall victim to its tropes.

Bucking the trend, Caleb Phillips, Other Side of the Box is anything but predictable. It’s a rare example of genre suspense where you have literally no idea where it’s going. It’s full of misdirection and structural surprises that all work together to subvert expectation. Moreover, where most horror films take great care to not reveal the “creature” until the very end (before that final jump scare), Phillips basically does the opposite: in the film’s best creep-out moment, we get to see the “thing” right smack dab in the middle. It’s a perfectly executed moment that is both uncanny and scary. And, so, the film focuses on a different creepy idea: that of knowingly being watched and, to persevere one’s self, being unable to look away.

As Phillips writes to Short of the Week:

“I was so taken with this idea of terror coming from something as simple as being stared at, and the imagery of the head in the box deeply unsettled me. I’m a huge fan of cosmic horror and I wanted to make a film that felt more like an investigation instead of running from a monster.”

The film, overall, succeeds in its mission. It’s fun to discover the “rules”of the scenario in real-time with the protagonists and this structural drive allows the film to find new things to present to the audience along the way. Many genre shorts run out of steam once they reveal their central high-concept trick. Box, rather, keeps building complexity and tension, getting better as it goes.

Other Side of the Box won the Grand Jury Award for best midnight Short at SXSW in 2019, and as that accolade from that particular category would suggest, the film definitely skews strange. But, it’s also not inaccessible or abstract. That’s an important distinction. It’s a film that makes up its logic, but in doing so, never loses the audience. The mythology and character choices all feel like they make sense in the moment. And, of course, by relying on traditional genre thrills and suspense, it feels inherently watchable, never getting tripped up by its own inherent strangeness. It’s both bizarre and creepy in equal measure.

Endings (especially in shorts) are hard. This one is a bit tough to decipher, but structurally, it feels like the film builds to a place of satisfying climax. And, thankfully, Phillips never feels like he resorts to easy tricks of the genre. It’s the kind of film with such a unique hook and central image that it’s bound to stick in the back of your mind for some time to come.” - S/W Curator Ivan Kander

Directed by
Caleb J. Phillips

Writing Credits (in alphabetical order)
Caleb J. Phillips
Nick Tag

Cast
Tyler Pochop … Man in the box
Teagan Rose … Rachel
Josh Schell … Shawn
Nick Tag … Ben

Produced by
Nick Coppola … producer
Caleb J. Phillips … producer
Nick Tag … producer

Music by
Avery Kentis

Cinematography by Laura Jansen

Sound Department
Tyler Pochop … sound

Camera and Electrical Department
Christian Phillips … first assistant camera
Steven Talens … gaffer
Caleb J. Phillips … colorist

Costume and Wardrobe Department
Haharhel Valencia … wardrobe Editorial Department

Reproduced on this channel with the permission of the filmmakers.

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389 comments

1
Decatur Deb  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:14:54pm

GOTV

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gocart mozart  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:17:33pm

Reposting this. Republicans are trying to cancel Ilhan Omar again, perhaps literally, for making unremarkable remarks about justice.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:18:45pm

kcuf pmurt

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:19:19pm

CLed from last string (pbuh, and may she watch over us in this hour of trial)

re: #311 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Please dog, now that Bolsonaro is infected, please infect Trump. Please.

Wouldn’t it be a hoot if both of them bit the dirt?

You know, four years ago, I would never have said something like that in public. Four years of Trump and Russian stooges and their savage, moronic cultists, though, is something like a year in Vietnam: It is brutalizing in the sense of making one brutal and callous. It can harden your heart.
If this seems a stretch, well it is, but if Trump can compare his nightclub pussy-grabs to war service then I can certainly compare living under his barbarous regime to it. I actually served in Vietnam, and I know whereof I speak far better than he does.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:21:12pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

CLed from last string (pbuh, and may she watch over us in this hour of trial)

You know, four years ago, I would never have said something like that in public. Four years of Trump and Russian stooges and their savage, moronic cultists, though, is something like a year in Vietnam: It is brutalizing in the sense of making one brutal and callous.

Well, I’m still full of sweetness and fucking light.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:21:28pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Brazil’s leader does have it. From The Washington Post
washingtonpost.com

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:22:16pm

As always, it’s telling that in making the arguments for and against reopening schools this fall, Dems and medical experts are arguing against in the name of public safety, while Repubs and MAGAts are arguing for in order to get Trump reelected.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:28:35pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

If that’s what this administration wanted, then mission accomplished.

I am numb and hardened.

I live in a safe town and have never needed to consider carrying.

Thanks, Trump. You made me hate you and your supporters so that CCW’s are in my head at all times. Thanks.

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danarchy  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:28:49pm

I haven’t had a haircut since February and my hair is getting out of hand. I ordered one of these and it just arrived:

But now I am afraid to try it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:29:40pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:29:57pm
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William Lewis  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:34:36pm

re: #9 danarchy

I haven’t had a haircut since February and my hair is getting out of hand. I ordered one of these and it just arrived:

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But now I am afraid to try it.

Looks interesting. Cost? Let me know how well it works once you do try it.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:37:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:38:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:41:44pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:43:12pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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Quoth Mrs. Fish: “Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.”

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Decatur Deb  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:44:38pm

And we get a free naked-eye comet—

C 2020 NEOWISE is easy to spot an hour before dawn in the NE. It will become an evening comet in a week or so.

earthsky.org

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Mike Lamb  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:49:06pm

I am all over the map on the school thing. I have a 6 year old at home. He’s an only child, and extremely social. Not having school is very hard on him. It’s also hard on my wife and I, as we attempt to keep him entertained while working from home.

But we are also fortunate that we can telecommute, and that we are able to help him with school work and have fun during the summer. Lots of parents are in a spot where they can’t stay home, and have to come up with day care.

I also don’t want unnecessary risks for teachers and administrators.

Currently, schools in my county are scheduled to open on Aug. 24th. They have been pretty responsible so far, so I trust they will have solid protocols in place.

Bottom line, though, is that if no one is going to pay parents to stay home, schools pretty much have to open in some capacity.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:49:27pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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I’m sure that somebody will fact-check that statement by her staff, but it doesn’t really matter because she’s not the first to announce she won’t be there but rather the fifth. Grassley was first to bow out, followed by Murkowski, Alexander, and Willard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:50:36pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:51:18pm

After watching Chris Hayes, we should probably donate to the Kris Kobach for Senate campaign.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:52:27pm

re: #13 Patricia Kayden

Debate:

I’m on the side of this statement. It has saved people’s lives and is putting people with power on notice. Any tool can be used for both good and evil, but the power of actual video is so overwhelming.

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austin_blue  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:54:38pm

CL’d:

re: #302 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

BoJo is where Trump got the asinine idea that we could just ride this out and develop “herd immunity”, and I will never forgive him for that. Everything since then has been, SEE, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE IF WE HAD JUST RIPPED OFF THE BAND-AID AND LET THE DISEASE INFECT US ALL!!!!!

Herd immunity requires > 60% (some say 70%, some 80%) of the Gen Pop to get infected. The problem there is that this thing has been running loose for +/- 19 weeks, we are still at less than 1% infected.

It’s all in the numbers, people. It will take a couple of years and 20,000,000 dead to achieve it.

And I thought we would have a vaccine this fall?

(note: Marburg/Ebola flavors starters showing up in 1978. No vaccine yet. Ditto for AIDS.)

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:55:17pm

re: #22 Belafon

Reload

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 5:56:02pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:00:22pm

re: #23 austin_blue

If a vaccine is viable, I expect it in 2021. There’s just way too much process for us to get through to realistically have the vaccine out this year.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:01:50pm

Good Evening Lizards. I hope everyone is well and fed and safe. We’re ok here, one day at a time…

One question I am left with is, when all this does end/stabilize/if it even can, however awful that is, how in the hell are we supposed to ever have functional communities? Especially with the cult members all around us?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:05:06pm

re: #27 A Mom Anon

Survived one trip to the hospital. Planning on surviving another on Thursday. After that, we are self-isolating for 2 weeks in case I picked up some shit while I was there. I wore a face mask for 2 hours straight, which for me is new, though I know people who use masks in their regular day-to-day shift work are laughing at me.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:06:57pm

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

After watching Chris Hayes, we should probably donate to the Kris Kobach for Senate campaign.

Wait. What?

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:07:07pm

re: #27 A Mom Anon

Good Evening Lizards. I hope everyone is well and fed and safe. We’re ok here, one day at a time…

One question I am left with is, when all this does end/stabilize/if it even can, however awful that is, how in the hell are we supposed to ever have functional communities? Especially with the cult members all around us?

How did blacks manage to survive with the KKK? And no I don’t mean they just took it.

As has been said, this has always been here. It’s just more out in the open. What that means is that we can’t ignore it, like some of us have had the luxury to do until recently. There are more of us than them. We have to remind them, and ourselves, of that fact. If they want to be cultists, they can do it at home and still have a job, or they can do it o ce outside and bot have a job.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:07:21pm

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

After watching Chris Hayes, we should probably donate to the Kris Kobach for Senate campaign.

I made a $5 contribution.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:08:25pm

re: #26 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If a vaccine is viable, I expect it in 2021. There’s just way too much process for us to get through to realistically have the vaccine out this year.

Even 2021 is optimistic.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:09:39pm

re: #29 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Wait. What?

He could lose to the Democrat.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:10:30pm

re: #13 Patricia Kayden

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What Trump did in the end was encourage the racists and bigots to start saying out in the open the shit they used to have to hide in places like Stormfront.

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Jay C  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:10:33pm

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

After watching Chris Hayes, we should probably donate to the Kris Kobach for Senate campaign.

Do you mean because he is likely to be the most-probable loser to the Democrat Barbara Boillier in the general (Which is what most polling, so far, is indicating)?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:10:39pm

re: #32 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Even 2021 is optimistic.

It could well be the end of 2021, though I certainly hope we can do better than that. I feel like 2022 is a bit pessimistic, though we already have reports of at least one major mutation.

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stpaulbear  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:10:50pm

Well retirement is off to a good start. I have two marginally functioning window air conditioners that I’ve been putting off replacing, but the Twin Cities has been having heat warnings so I finally decided that malfunctioning AC is better than none. My 125 year old house has counterweighted windows where some of the ropes have broken, so I use the universally accepted wooden stick method of holding up the window sash. While I was adjusting the screen, I bumped the stick, and the window fell onto two fingers on my left hand (index and middle). The skin on the palm side broke and there was much blood involved. No bones feel damaged. I ran my hand under cold water and surveyed the damages and decided I wasn’t going to need stitches (an assessment not based on any medical knowledge). I put on some triple-antibiotic ointment and the type of fabric bandaid that you need a blowtorch to remove.

The barely functioning AC had dropped the temp in the room to sub-80’s and is actually removing some moisture. Yay! I’ll sleep tonight. I’m on the Best Buy website now.

I’m hoping that the first full day of retirement goes better. Going back to clean out my desk in an empty office after 3+ months of everyone working from home was a weird way to retire. It feels like I dissolved from my job. Minimal closure. First state pension check (about 75% of SoSec) shows up in about seven weeks. First health insurance bill comes before that…

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:11:29pm

Schrödinger may or may not have died.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:12:12pm

re: #35 Jay C

Do you mean because he is likely to be the most-probable loser to the Democrat Barbara Boillier in the general (Which is what most polling, so far, is indicating)?

Yep.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:12:19pm

“Bbbbbut Kamala WAS A COP!”

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:12:30pm

re: #38 Dread Pirate

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Schrödinger may or may not have died.

Have we ruled out zombies?

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A Mom Anon  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:12:55pm

re: #18 Mike Lamb
I don’t envy parents with school age kids right now. This whole situation would be a lot easier if we could just get people to understand that it’s ok for government to take care of its people in a pandemic. That it’s actually smart to set rules and guidelines so we can get to normal ASAP. And that science and medicine aren’t perfect but they have a pretty spectacular track record if you take a minute to think. Good luck to you all navigating this madness, stay well.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:13:00pm

re: #37 stpaulbear

If you need anything, feel free to reach out to this young and enthusiastic lizard.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:13:20pm

re: #36 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It could well be the end of 2021, though I certainly hope we can do better than that. I feel like 2022 is a bit pessimistic, though we already have reports of at least one major mutation.

Even 2022 would be remarkable, historically.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:13:33pm

re: #33 NO SMOCKING GUN!

He could lose to the Democrat.

Oh. If he wins the primary he’s lose to a Democrat but his opponent could beat the Dem?

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:13:52pm

re: #25 The Pie Overlord!

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Auntie Ruckus is at it again.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:14:59pm

re: #40 Sherlock Hound

Laser-focused on dangerous crime.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:15:03pm

re: #42 A Mom Anon

I don’t envy parents with school age kids right now. This whole situation would be a lot easier if we could just get people to understand that it’s ok for government to take care of its people in a pandemic. That it’s actually smart to set rules and guidelines so we can get to normal ASAP. And that science and medicine aren’t perfect but they have a pretty spectacular track record if you take a minute to think. Good luck to you all navigating this madness, stay well.

It’s a grind for sure. Basically been a marginally different day going on 4 months now.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:17:00pm

re: #45 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Oh. If he wins the primary he’s lose to a Democrat but his opponent could beat the Dem?

Yes. He lost the governors race because he’s awful, so we want him to be the GOP candidate for Senate.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:18:44pm

re: #40 Sherlock Hound

“Bbbbbut Kamala WAS A COP!”

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I full expect the headlines on Day 2 of schools reopening to be “Record number of absences/call-outs, state officials debate legal action against parents.”

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Jay C  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:19:03pm

re: #45 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Oh. If he wins the primary he’s lose to a Democrat but his opponent could beat the Dem?

Something like that. IIRC, the polling numbers show Kobach doing the worst against Boillier in various head-to-head matchups.
Not much of a surprise, as Kris Kobach seems to be one of the least-liked Republicans in KS.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:19:24pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

I full expect the headlines on Day 2 of schools reopening to be “Record number of absences/call-outs, state officials debate legal action against parents.”

“debate”? Oh no, it’ll be, “State officials file suit against parents of truant students”.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:20:19pm

It’s the people who think this, that should be wearing diapers!


Those that seriously believe this, SHOULD be the ones wearing “face diapers”. Then we won’t have to hear them!
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:21:48pm

re: #53 Sherlock Hound

Do these people realize that you don’t get admitted to a hospital without wearing a “face diaper”? There’s a damn good reason for it, fuckfaces. Wear the damn masks in public, and then hopefully you won’t have to have one forcibly strapped to your face in the back of an ambulance while you’re struggling to breathe from the ‘rona.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:22:24pm

re: #53 Sherlock Hound

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Those that seriously believe this, SHOULD be the ones wearing “face diapers”. Then we won’t have to hear them!

Right, because “heroes” are the guys who never served a day in their lives walking around in camo overalls, “tacticool” rifles slung over their shoulder, barking in a cop’s face about how it’s “tyranny” to keep them from getting a haircut or buying gardening supplies.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:23:17pm

re: #52 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“debate”? Oh no, it’ll be, “State officials file suit against parents of truant students”.

It’ll be strange. White parents will have their cases dismissed.
People of color, OTOH….. :O

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:25:11pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

Auntie Ruckus is at it again.

Yeah I have seen the “Aunt Candace” pancake memes of Black Twitter.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:25:29pm

Rachel is great tonight, reporting on Mary Trump’s book. I ordered my copy.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:26:04pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:26:52pm

re: #56 Sherlock Hound

It’ll be strange. White parents will have their cases dismissed.
People of color, OTOH….. :O

White parents will be shown “leniency” by having fines waived if they promise to send their kids to school, with the judge telling them that he “understands” their worry but “it’s the law.”

Minority parents will be fined as the judge lectures them that they are “what’s wrong” with America because their kids don’t get good educations and grow up to be criminals who are destroying “everything good and decent” about this country.

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EPR-radar  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:27:27pm

If you take a historical long view, the idea that a government should be fairly minimal and only intrude on issues affecting the public interest is a very recent and very liberal idea.

For most of history, governments have mostly been variations on the theme of “might is right”, and the proper functions of government were limited to wealth extraction from the ruled by the rulers.

The US Republican Party has explicitly rejected governance in the public interest in favor of corrupt rulership by thugs and crooks.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:28:31pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

White parents will be shown “leniency” by having fines waived if they promise to send their kids to school, with the judge telling them that he “understands” their worry but “it’s the law.”

Minority parents will be fined as the judge lectures them that they are “what’s wrong” with America because their kids don’t get good educations and grow up to be criminals who are destroying “everything good and decent” about this country.

I remember the black parent who got 5 years for trying to get her child into a good school.

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EPR-radar  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:29:43pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

White parents will be shown “leniency” by having fines waived if they promise to send their kids to school, with the judge telling them that he “understands” their worry but “it’s the law.”

Minority parents will be fined as the judge lectures them that they are “what’s wrong” with America because their kids don’t get good educations and grow up to be criminals who are destroying “everything good and decent” about this country.

Using education rules as a way to deliberately spread covid19 is a spectacularly shitty thing to do, even for Republicans.

The long awaited Nazi-Republican convergence is now weeks away, at most.

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Cheechako  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:31:05pm

re: #36 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It could well be the end of 2021, though I certainly hope we can do better than that. I feel like 2022 is a bit pessimistic, though we already have reports of at least one major mutation.

I have no doubt that donald will throw out a “Hail Mary” pass near the end of October announcing a super-duper, miracle cure for Covid-19 invented by donald himself. The announcement will be close to election day to reduce any ability to fact check. Fox will broadcast the news 24/7 while demanding a Noble Prize for trump for his saving the world from this deadly disease.

Will the cure be the cure? Nah. Just more snake oil.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:31:28pm

re: #22 Belafon

Debate:

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I’m on the side of this statement. It has saved people’s lives and is putting people with power on notice. Any tool can be used for both good and evil, but the power of actual video is so overwhelming.

Looks like douchebag doxxing is a new national sport. Not exactly good clean fun, but it does serve a useful purpose in getting some righteous justice laid on some very bad assholes. It can go badly wrong when a mistaken ID gets into the ‘tubes, though, with real grief for real people. Fortunately, lawyers are working that kink too, and creating grief and expense for those who make careless and erroneous IDs.

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EPR-radar  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:33:11pm

re: #62 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I remember the black parent who got 5 years for trying to get her child into a good school.

Republicans always show who they are most clearly at the intersection of race and education. The origin of movement conservatism in the ‘massive resistance’ to school desegregation is a case in point.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:33:18pm

Two common themes will pop up in the first week of schools reopening:

- Parents keeping kids home due to fear of spreading infections, leading to state officials “debating” or outright “promising” some form of legal action against them for truancy.

- MAGAt parents getting all sorts of outraged and upset when they find out that teachers are enforcing masks and have desks spread out in classrooms, screaming that it’s “brainwashing” their kids to think there’s a danger when everything is perfectly “safe.”

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:34:26pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:36:58pm

re: #64 Cheechako

Narrator: It was hydroxychloroquine. Again.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:38:14pm

Rachel is killing it tonight.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:41:33pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:44:37pm

re: #43 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If you need anything, feel free to reach out to this young and enthusiastic lizard.

I appreciate the offer but I think I’m going to be in pretty good shape. Worst battle I’m going to be fighting is lethargy while it’s so hot and muggy this week. It looks like Friday may be nice for spending some time tooling around on my scooter.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:46:03pm

re: #72 stpaulbear

I appreciate the offer but I think I’m going to be in pretty good shape. Worst battle I’m going to be fighting is lethargy while it’s so hot and muggy this week. It looks like Friday may be nice for spending some time tooling around on my scooter.

The heat is definitely a valid argument. It’s the worst time of the year for those in older spaces without central air. Stay safe, stay cool, and look forward to the fact that we have one of the shorter summer heat seasons in the lower 48.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:47:41pm
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retired cynic  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:48:49pm

On the continuing PPP saga:

Trump’s Religious-Right Backers Get Millions in COVID​-19 Relief
by Peter Montgomery, Right Wing Watch

A LOT of them pulled in the big bucks!

Initially, the idea of tax dollars directly supporting clergy and church operations was defended as an extraordinary response to the unique situation caused by the pandemic. But on a phone call organized by Paul​a White’s One Voice Prayer Movement in May, former Rep. Randy Forbes ​of Virginia, founder of the Congressional Prayer Caucus, celebrated ​that​ “precedents for religious freedom” that ​are​ being set during the pandemic—specifically the unprecedented use of federal tax dollars to directly fund clergy and churches—“are going to endure long after this coronavirus has gone.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:49:48pm

re: #75 retired cynic

On the continuing PPP saga:

Trump’s Religious-Right Backers Get Millions in COVID​-19 Relief
by Peter Montgomery, Right Wing Watch

A LOT of them pulled in the big bucks!

30 pieces of silver.

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gocart mozart  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:50:25pm

re: #2 gocart mozart
HaHa

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retired cynic  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:50:39pm

How the press keeps whitewashing Trump’s deranged speeches
It’s time [to] ban “fiery”
by Eric Boehlert, PressRun

None of that polite language describes what’s going on — the complete lack of coherency that should define the Trump presidency. Instead, his dead-end utterances get dressed up in news reports in order to make them seem understandable.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:52:13pm

re: #74 The Pie Overlord!

Parlar awaits!

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:53:17pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:54:10pm

re: #80 jaunte

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Wait, he was at Terre Haute? Holy shit.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:56:13pm

re: #81 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

For context: Growing up in fish country, oblique references to “Terre Haute” were common. It wasn’t until much later until I understood that the Oklahoma City bomber, Timothy McVeigh, was executed on death row in that city, and that is where the federal government’s death row inmates are kept.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:56:14pm

re: #74 The Pie Overlord!

Wonder what the tweet was that finally pushed Twitter to wield the bahnhammer? Then again, fsck.that guy….

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:56:37pm

Trump won’t do a thing about Russians putting bounties on our people, but he’ll rant and rave until the leaker gets caught.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:57:46pm
“so-called intelligence.”

Back at ya, SAT boy.

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Weaselone  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:57:54pm

re: #40 Sherlock Hound

Any evidence of this? I’m pretty certain that the current system in place in Texas no longer jails students for truancy.

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gocart mozart  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:58:22pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 7, 2020 • 6:59:09pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:05:03pm

re: #84 jaunte

Why didn’t Democrat’s hold hearings on the Russian bounties? The Whistleblower should get a chance to testify before Congress. We know that Trump is going to fire and then penalize him/her.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:05:40pm

re: #79 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Unlike Twitter, you can’t browse Parker without creating an account.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:08:10pm

re: #89 Patricia Kayden

I hope there’s a lot more going on behind the scenes than there appears to be on the surface.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:08:14pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:12:23pm

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

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Favorite line from Chernobyl: “I take it the safety test failed.”

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:16:47pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:17:36pm

re: #86 Weaselone

Any evidence of this? I’m pretty certain that the current system in place in Texas no longer jails students for truancy.

It’s speculation on the part of the Twitterer, but I was just struck by the juxtaposition of that news vers-a-vers the Bernie propaganda against Kamala Harris just because she once did anti-truancy work during her term. (As far as I read, none of the families she worked with ever had any of their members go to prison.)

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:17:42pm

re: #64 Cheechako

I have no doubt that donald will throw out a “Hail Mary” pass near the end of October announcing a super-duper, miracle cure for Covid-19 invented by donald himself. The announcement will be close to election day to reduce any ability to fact check. Fox will broadcast the news 24/7 while demanding a Noble Prize for trump for his saving the world from this deadly disease.

Will the cure be the cure? Nah. Just more snake oil.

So we act like Reagan and warn of an October surprise.

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Targetpractice  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:19:32pm

re: #92 goddamnedfrank

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Much like the Chernobyl disaster, the entire test failed because every fail-safe was voided by ignorant assholes whose power came not from experience but from loyalty to party doctrine. They ignored the experts who told them things they didn’t want to hear, they deliberately overrode safety measures because they believed such was a hindrance to their plans, and then when it ended in disaster they tried to blame others and cover up the mess.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:20:20pm

re: #94 jaunte

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I don’t think they are hoping people become numb, I think they are praying for the dentalists and truthers to come out in full force. If you can deny the earth is round and the holocaust never happened you can deny anything.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:20:29pm

re: #40 Sherlock Hound

“Bbbbbut Kamala WAS A COP!”

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That account has 50 followers and is following zero people. And the thing is, we have independent school districts. The state doesn’t have overall authority over how the districts run. In ours, for instance, its up to the parents whether the kids will go to school or stay at home.

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:29:47pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:32:57pm
Sens. Mitt Romney (R-UT), Susan Collins (R-ME) and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) will not attend the GOP convention next month in Florida, aides for the senators confirmed to The Hill.

Sens. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) and Lamar Alexander (R-TN) have also said they won’t attend.

while

New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu (R) assured reporters that President Trump’s upcoming rally in the state could be pulled off safely and without a mandatory mask order, even as he was unlikely to attend himself, CNN reports

sure

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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:34:20pm

re: #89 Patricia Kayden

We’re going to need to see justice done on multiple levels.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:34:43pm
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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:38:35pm

re: #102 jaunte

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We’re going to need to see justice done on multiple levels.

January 22, 2021
Today’s House Schedule:
8 am: Votes for relief to families.
8:30 am: Judiciary meeting concerning Trump’s theft of Oval office rug.
8:35 am: Break to allow Sargent at Arms to remove Rep Gohmer from room.
8:40 am: Break to allow SaA to remove Rep. Nunes from room.
9 am: Vote on Senate bill to reinstate VRA for all states.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:39:12pm
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mmmirele  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:43:12pm

So, for reasons unrelated to this story* I was at the doctor’s office today. Upon entry, I had my temp scanned (97 degrees) and was the only person in what is generally an occupied waiting room. Then I saw the nurse practitioner, who normally does not see me, and she said I didn’t need to come back for six months because my A1C was in a good place. I said, but the doc says 3-4 months. She said, do what your doc says. And then I tossed off, well, maybe in three months this plague will be over. Nurse practitioner: NOPE.

Yeah, it’s a data point of one, but it’s a healthcare professional in Arizona, so I thought I’d pass it on to you all.

*aka I had to go in so they’d release a prescription for a medication they were holding hostage until I went in…AND THEN the pharmacy says the insurance company is questioning the medication, which I’ve taken for the last 3+ years and which they approved 3 months ago…*rolls eyes*

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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:44:06pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:44:19pm

re: #53 Sherlock Hound

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Those that seriously believe this, SHOULD be the ones wearing “face diapers”. Then we won’t have to hear them!

dude, those “germs” are from inside your lungs. yes you breathed them out and into the mask. and if they’re in your lungs, you can’t just exhale all the bad germs away.

if the outside of your mask caught someone else’s germs, well that’s what its job is. to keep those germs from getting into your lungs

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retired cynic  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:44:39pm

re: #106 mmmirele

I hope you are making headway on that mortgage kerfuffle!

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mmmirele  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:46:09pm

re: #109 retired cynic

I hope you are making headway on that mortgage kerfuffle!

You did have to remind me of that, didn’t you? Blergh. I’ll send a note to my attorney.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:46:27pm

re: #40 Sherlock Hound

“Bbbbbut Kamala WAS A COP!”

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er “truancy” is the word isnt it?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:51:56pm

re: #102 jaunte

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We’re going to need to see justice done on multiple levels.

I think it’s going to be enormous, absolutely unprecedented in the United States. My mind keeps going back to the prosecution of collaborators in countries liberated from Nazi occupation during World War II, a process that often failed.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:53:41pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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and we only find out about it now?
some 15 days later

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:55:09pm
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jaunte  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:55:19pm

re: #111 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Texas is one of the easiest states to homeschool in.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 7, 2020 • 7:57:00pm

The Bitch who fucking warned all y’all

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:02:15pm
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retired cynic  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:03:25pm

re: #117 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The R governors won’t, either.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:03:47pm

re: #101 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

while

sure

conclusion:

republican Senators won’t attend a Convention for fear of the virus but Trump expects school children to ride in crowded buses, attend classes in small rooms, use the restrooms, and eat in the congested cafeterias

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:04:43pm

re: #117 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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the White house isn’t trying to

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retired cynic  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:04:44pm

re: #118 retired cynic

Remember the regional groups of governors? We had one based around IL. The IN, MO, IA governors refused to go along with what they agreed to do.

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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:04:45pm

Democrats are motivated.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:07:58pm

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel is among a group of attorneys general suing Education Secretary Betsy DeVos over a policy requiring public school districts to split coronavirus relief funds with private school students.

Nessel is partnering with California Attorney General Xavier Becerra to lead a coalition of states in pursuing the lawsuit, which was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:08:01pm

re: #113 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

and we only find out about it now?
some 15 days later

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Yeah, the 2 week delay in info is unconscionable for the leader of the 3rd branch of the federal government
But then, there’s this

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gocart mozart  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:13:50pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:14:41pm

re: #23 austin_blue

CL’d:

re: #302 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

BoJo is where Trump got the asinine idea that we could just ride this out and develop “herd immunity”, and I will never forgive him for that. Everything since then has been, SEE, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE IF WE HAD JUST RIPPED OFF THE BAND-AID AND LET THE DISEASE INFECT US ALL!!!!!

Herd immunity requires > 60% (some say 70%, some 80%) of the Gen Pop to get infected. The problem there is that this thing has been running loose for +/- 19 weeks, we are still at less than 1% infected.

It’s all in the numbers, people. It will take a couple of years and 20,000,000 dead to achieve it.

And I thought we would have a vaccine this fall?

(note: Marburg/Ebola flavors starters showing up in 1978. No vaccine yet. Ditto for AIDS.)

Based on the likely ultimate mortality of 1-2%, it will be 2,000,000 to 4,000,000 deaths in the U.S. Most of the mild or asymptomatic cases don’t show up among official counts because those infected have never been tested.

Re: AIDS vaccine. According to one source listing reasons for no vaccine:

Vaccines are typically made to mimic the immune reaction of recovered people. However, almost no people have recovered after contracting HIV. As a result, there’s no immune reaction that vaccines can mimic.

I don’t recall hearing of anyone who recovered after contracting HIV, except for those few people who apparently have genes that may prevent them from getting the disease.

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Interesting Times  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:24:35pm

Good news for a change:

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:26:04pm

re: #113 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

and we only find out about it now?
some 15 days later

NEW: Chief Justice John Roberts was hospitalized June 21 due to “an injury to his forehead sustained in a fall while walking for exercise near his home,” a court spokesperson says.

Doctors “believe the fall was likely due to light-headedness caused by dehydration.”

The thought of Roberts leaving the bench this year is almost as concerning as RBG — after all once in a while he makes the correct decision, certainly far more frequently than any of his GOP appointed-cohorts on the bench.

Now, his perishing in January would not be of such concern because his replacement would be selected by (God willing) Biden and a Democratic Senate. It would be a true joy if Biden got to replace several GOP judges.

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gocart mozart  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:27:56pm
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BigPapa  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:34:30pm
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Jay C  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:36:07pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Yeah, the 2 week delay in info is unconscionable for the leader of the 3rd branch of the federal government
But then, there’s this

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I realize that SCOTUS has probably been “distancing” themselves since the CV outbreak started, but really: the CJ bashes his forehead in a fall and it isn’t noticed for two weeks?

re: #128 Hecuba’s daughter

Just more motivation to make sure Trump and the GOP lose their ability to fuck over the country’s judiciary. I’m sure RBG is going to be composing (if maybe not submitting) her resignation right after Election Day…

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:36:49pm

Say no more. This is the true opposite of BLM, the end that Republicans and the ‘roid cops have been working towards: “MY LIFE MATTERS!”

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austin_blue  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:39:24pm

re: #32 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Even 2021 is optimistic.

It is. Bacterial vaccines are relatively easy. Virus vaccines are bitch kitties. You think you’ve got it, and then they mutate. And even if they don’t, it’s still hell in a bucket.

COVID seems to be relatively stable (the key word is relatively), bit if it squeeches off sideways in the next six months, we have to start all over. It’s possible we could invent drug therapies, like we did with AIDS, which turned it from an acute to a chronic disease, but hemhoragic viruses like the flavors of Ebola just don’t respond to much of anything. You get it, and you bleed out, and it’s 80-90% lethal.

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:40:10pm

re: #132 Sherlock Hound

Where “black lives matter” is short for “black lives matter, too”, “my life matters” is short for “only my life matters.”

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gocart mozart  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:43:38pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:47:48pm

re: #127 Interesting Times

Good news for a change:

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Are they now college educated? Or dead? Or…?

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Belafon  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:49:31pm

re: #136 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Are they now college educated? Or dead? Or…?

Not reproducing as fast.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:52:48pm

re: #136 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Are they now college educated? Or dead? Or…?

Four years of deaths, among a demographic cohort more likely to be white and less likely to be college-educated.

Four years of births, less likely to be white.

Four years of new college graduates.

Four years of migration and immigration, again likely to be more non-whites moving to each of those states. (Just the post-hurricane migration from Puerto Rico to Florida has significantly changed the demographics there since 2016.)

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austin_blue  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:52:54pm

re: #135 gocart mozart

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That’s funny!

But then again, it’s probably best not to hummmmmmm the sitting POTUS. Or standing. Whatevs.

(NB: I still think Clinton should have been tossed out of office because of his “relationship” with her. It wasn’t rape, but it crawled up as close to that definition as it possibly could.)

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:55:53pm

re: #134 Belafon

Where “black lives matter” is short for “black lives matter, too”, “my life matters” is short for “only my life matters.”

And it seems to be too much trouble to learn to cuff and arrest instead of just shooting. Can’t wait, cant de-escalate. Just bang bang bang. WTF

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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2020 • 8:59:22pm
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austin_blue  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:04:38pm

re: #140 Rightwingconspirator

And it seems to be too much trouble to learn to cuff and arrest instead of just shooting. Can’t wait, cant de-escalate. Just bang bang bang. WTF

It isn’t just that. Take a look at the Aurora arrest and killing of Elijah McClain.

Accosted by police officers for walking on a sidewalk, thrown to the ground, cuffed, physically restrained, and injected with ketamine. Dead by the time he was transported.

Why? He was black, maybe autistic. You think a similar white boy would have been treated that way? Not a chance in hell.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:09:30pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:19:34pm

re: #131 Jay C

Just more motivation to make sure Trump and the GOP lose their ability to fuck over the country’s judiciary. I’m sure RBG is going to be composing (if maybe not submitting) her resignation right after Election Day…

Try right after Biden is inaugurated. If she resigned one day before, McConnell would jam through a nominee and have him/her sworn in in five minutes.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:21:09pm
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cat-tikvah  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:25:37pm

re: #145 Dread Pirate

God helps those who help themselves! To taxpayers’ money.

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austin_blue  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:25:58pm

I’m off to bed. Here are today’s numbers in Texas:

worldometers.info

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sagehen  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:26:30pm

re: #114 Dread Pirate

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So these Trumpers who are questioning Tammy Duckworth’s patriotism… are these the same people (not same type, but actual same individuals) who were so outraged we should ever criticize Dan Crenshaw?

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:27:35pm

There’s always Parler.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:37:49pm

re: #148 sagehen

So these Trumpers who are questioning Tammy Duckworth’s patriotism… are these the same people (not same type, but actual same individuals) who were so outraged we should ever criticize Dan Crenshaw?

Yes and they’re the same people that said John Kerry shot himself to get a Purple Heart.

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gwangung  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:39:11pm

re: #150 Ace Rothstein

Yes and they’re the same people that said John Kerry shot himself to get a Purple Heart.

And dumped on Max Clelland?

Once is happenstance.
Twice is coincidence.
Thrice is enemy action…

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:49:55pm

re: #150 Ace Rothstein

Yes and they’re the same people that said John Kerry shot himself to get a Purple Heart.

When my nephews uttered that bullshit I lost it…

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Dread Pirate  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:51:07pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2020 • 9:59:32pm

Local political news. Notice the clear lack of social distancing and lack of masks. Cory wearing one is going to hurt him with Colorado Republican voters.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:25:03pm

re: #117 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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California is part of a (I think) six-state group of states that are coordinating their response to covid-19. I think there’s a similar group of states in the northeast. (NY, NJ, etc.)

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Jack Burton  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:37:54pm

re: #155 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

California is part of a (I think) six-state group of states that are coordinating their response to covid-19. I think there’s a similar group of states in the northeast. (NY, NJ, etc.)

I remember the announcement of this and as far as I know, absolutely nothing else was done after the announcement.

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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2020 • 10:54:08pm

Where I live, we had a municipal election today. It was supposed to happen in April but was delayed until today due to *gestures at everything*.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:00:07pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:00:39pm

re: #156 Jack Burton

I remember the announcement of this and as far as I know, absolutely nothing else was done after the announcement.

All they planned to do was coordinate their response. What would you expect to see?

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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:12:40pm

Damn good skier, doesn’t make her smart, I guess. She has a very young son, looks like she’s not going to vaccinate him? *sigh*

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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:41:18pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 7, 2020 • 11:47:24pm

Dude goes full-on Dukes of Hazzard.

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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2020 • 1:19:08am

re: #161 teleskiguy

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Well Newt, perhaps the reason she’s angry is that you and your fellow travelers hate that she was ever allowed into this country as a refugee and would readily deport her if given the opportunity.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 1:45:41am

hi

Board of Supervisors member in San Francisco.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 2:00:31am

The holiday update is in for the Nebraska Panhandle.

Panhandle Public Health District Covid-19 Dashboard

July 6 & 7

Cases: 338 (+6, Scott’s Bluff County +5, Morrill County +1)
Most by age: 20-29, then tied 10-19 and 40-49
Women and girls are 2/3s of cases
Cumulative positive rate: 5.9%
DEATHS: 4 (+1, Scott’s Bluff County, a man in his late 80s)
Closures:

The National Balloon Federation of America announced Tuesday that it will postpone its 2020 U.S. Nationals Hot Air Balloon Championship event until next year, citing the growing number of COVID-19 exposures throughout the nation.

Colleen Johnson, executive director of the Old West Balloon Fest, said the event committee has been working closely with the national federation to address address concerns due to the pandemic. The groups wanted to know whether it was worthwhile to schedule the competition this year. Their joint decision was to postpone the event.

Scotts Bluff County is in its second year of a three-year agreement to host the National Competition. Even with the postponement, the local area will host the event for 2021 and 2022.

Virus concerns ground balloon competition (more at the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 2:13:31am

Thread, twelve tweets, after which Ms. Rice goes into discussion with Hoarse Whisperer with a thoughtful and civil discussion on the hellsite known as Twitter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 2:17:52am

re: #146 cat-tikvah

God helps those who help themselves! To taxpayers’ money.

They aren’t getting enough in tax breaks!

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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2020 • 2:48:39am

*sigh*

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(((Archangel1)))  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:07:27am

There’s stupid, and then there’s STUPID…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:11:00am

re: #168 Targetpractice

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:13:38am

re: #168 Targetpractice

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:14:19am

re: #170 Decatur Deb

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:17:11am
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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:25:34am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thread, twelve tweets, after which Ms. Rice goes into discussion with Hoarse Whisperer with a thoughtful and civil discussion on the hellsite known as Twitter.

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I ask Ms. Rice to consider the following hypothetical: During the same incident, Mr. Cooper doesn’t pull out his cellphone to record the verbal altercation and thus does not have Ms. Cooper on video saying she’s gonna call the cops to have him “taken care of.” Cop arrives and he’s got a white woman with little dog and a black man in a situation that has been described to him as the latter “threatening” the former.

We’ll go ahead and waive for a moment the suggestion that Mr. Cooper may have been brutalized and/or killed by the cop and deal with an equally likely scenario: The cop begins by asking her (the caller) what happened. She describes how she was just taking her dog for a walk when this black man suddenly appears and starts harassing her about have her dog somewhere it shouldn’t be. She’s reattached the leash by this point, so Mr. Cooper’s assertions that it was unleashed in violation of the park’s rules fall on deaf ears. When she says that Mr. Cooper said he had dog treats in his pocket and would do “things” to her dog if she didn’t leave, the cop then turns to him and asks if he does have treats (hindsight: We know he did because he’s admitted to such and admitted he frequently uses them to entice dogs to leave their owners in order to force them away from the birds).

So the cop the asks Mr. Cooper his side of the story, where he does have to admit that he confronted her, that he did insist she leash her dog (again, dog’s back on its leash) and he did suggest he’d use dog treats he keeps in his pocket to lure the dog away. At this point, with the basics of the story corroborated, what’s the cop to do other than arrest Mr. Cooper? He could give him a citation, but it still means arguing in court that the whole thing is wrong, meaning money and time from his life that a man of lesser means might find himself financially crippled by. He could cut Mr. Cooper a break and order him to leave, but that means Ms. Cooper has broken the rules without consequence and will feel empowered to do the same routine in the future if confronted about her dog being off its leash. And if he orders them both to vacate, then she still walks free.

tl;dr, Ms. Cooper is only facing consequences for her actions because Mr. Cooper took steps to protect his own innocence.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:31:40am

re: #154 teleskiguy

Local political news. Notice the clear lack of social distancing and lack of masks. Cory wearing one is going to hurt him with Colorado Republican voters.

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that’s not personal protection
it’s a fashion statement worn by some sort of wannabee

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:31:47am

re: #87 gocart mozart

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Maybe he should ask Dr. Fauci to the show.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:34:07am

re: #174 Targetpractice

In general, it was only with the use of widespread phone and video recording technology that issues of police abuse were finally addressed.

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Targetpractice  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:35:40am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In general, it was only with the use of widespread phone and video recording technology that issues of police abuse were finally addressed.

Ayep. Without a cellphone, Mr. Cooper is a black man arguing his innocence before a judge. With a cellphone, it’s a white woman whose life is “destroyed” having other white women suggest she’s “suffered enough.”

This situation is in no way equal.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:36:12am

Somehow my state hasn’t managed to bend the curve into a vertical line despite the actions of Gov. Ricketts. Statewide:

Cases: 20,201 (+117, doubled since June 16)
Fourteen-day running average by county: Most—Douglas (seat Omaha). My county has surpassed both Hall (seat Grand Island) and Scott’s Bluff (seat Gering) to take a solid seventh place. Of note, Hall has one of the meatpacking plants which are centres of outbreaks here.
Most by age: 20-34, then tied 35-44 and 45-54
Women and men are roughly equal statewide (unlike the Panhandle)
Most by age hospitalised: 55-64, then 65 to 74
Recovered: 14,927
Most by age recovered: 20-34, then 35-44
Deaths: 282 (-2, there have been two more resurrections in Nebraska, we’re going to start looking like ancient Jerusalem here soon)
Most deaths by age: 65-74, then 75-84
State population: 1.7 million (91.2% white)
Recoveries by ethnic group: Whites only comprise 60%
Deaths by ethnic group: Whites comprise 77%
More data: experience.arcgis.com

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:36:37am

re: #131 Jay C

I realize that SCOTUS has probably been “distancing” themselves since the CV outbreak started, but really: the CJ bashes his forehead in a fall and it isn’t noticed reported for two weeks?

Just more motivation to make sure Trump and the GOP lose their ability to fuck over the country’s judiciary. I’m sure RBG is going to be composing (if maybe not submitting) her resignation right after Election Day…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:43:00am

re: #180 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

RBG better wait until after inauguration Day or Mitch will try to ram through a successor in the interim period citing some unheard-of legal and historical precedents…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 3:43:29am

Omaha World-Herald published my letter responding to the bigot Catholic railing against the Supreme Court’s ruling on gay rights.

The Public Pulse: Teachers, virus threat; Tort claim justified; Gay rights ruling correct

Mr. Charlie Aliano asserts (July 4 Pulse) that as a practicing Catholic, he is appalled by the recent Supreme Court decision prohibiting discrimination against LGBT people in business and government. No one on the Supreme Court struck down the First Amendment’s provision of free exercise in any church. That would include churches which accept LGBT persons in their services.

Fortunately our nation is not run on the Catechism of the Catholic Church or any particular person’s interpretation of the Bible. It is a secular state which allows free exercise for all faiths and none.

The argument “God said” has been used in our country to deny rights to women, to enforce slavery, to enforce Jim Crow, to enforce miscegenation laws and to enforce anti-Catholic laws.

The Constitution, which is the law of our land and not the Bible, explicitly prohibits the government from interfering in the affairs of any church, so they are as free to be as restrictive and non-welcoming as they wish. No Catholic Church is going to be forced to distribute the Eucharist to any person it deems unworthy.

By law your church may enforce its Catechism on its members as it wishes. It may not enforce it on anyone outside the Catholic Church, just as the Lutheran Church may not enforce its doctrines on Catholics.

Five of the Supreme Court Justices are Catholic; fortunately they ruled for the rights of all Americans, not their own sect. They are appointed to uphold secular laws, not church laws.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:04:51am

re: #174 Targetpractice

Aside from the likely outcome from an encounter with the police by Mr. Cooper of him being assumed to be in the wrong (such as the Central Park Five), if the police went ballistic (started opening fire) knowing the rather poor aim the cops seem to have, a person entirely uninvolved in this could also be injured or killed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:08:07am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Apropos of nothing here: The Omaha World-Herald “Public Pulse” has a submission limit of one hundred words. (The argument by the paper is to make it easier to read on the Internet and to keep people constrained to a single topic.)

They allowed that very long letter to go through.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:09:20am

5:08 AM Mythical Time: The birds were just switched on. The cricket manager hasn’t switched off the crickets yet.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:13:35am

re: #169 (((Archangel1)))

There’s stupid, and then there’s STUPID…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:24:32am

The hits keep coming. This asshat needs to withdraw so Alisha Shelton can be put on the ballot.

Nebraska Senate Candidate Used Racist Slur at a Party, Guests Recall (goes to the New York Times)

Drop out, Chris! (State senator Megan Hunt’s personal blog)

Dear friends and neighbors,

We need to talk about Chris Janicek. It’s time for him to drop out of the race for US Senate.

A person’s true character shows in how they treat those with less power than them, especially behind closed doors. Mr. Janicek is not a person who is fit to represent Nebraskans in Washington.

It doesn’t matter if you agree that what Janicek did was wrong or if you’re friends with him or if he was your candidate or if you like his cupcakes or if you think it’s “time for forgiveness and positivity” or whatever. I don’t care. That’s not what the conversation is about.

The reality now is that Chris Janicek doesn’t have a path to victory. At all. He knows that, and he is willfully withholding a path to victory for Democrats because he would rather stay in and sabotage the race than drop out and give Nebraskans a chance to vote for a viable candidate.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:39:04am

Since I seem to be all alone here …

I will not vote for Mr. Janicek. As much as I despise Sen. Sasse’s policies, suggesting your staffer be gang raped on a conference call is too much. I don’t care if he’s the most leftiest liberal who ever leftiested (and he’s not, Nebraska Democrats are fairly conservative).

I will leave the line blank in the election if he’s still on the ballot. This isn’t being a purity pony. No one has ever smelt the slightest whiff of scandal regarding Sen. Sasse in a matter like this. Mr. Janicek’s actions do not uphold my moral standards as a Democrat. His lame claim that a gay man can’t harass a woman makes that worse.

Alisha Shelton (who finished in third place) and Angie Phillips (who endorsed her and finished in second place) took half again as many votes as Chris Janicek. All other primary candidates have now endorsed Alisha Shelton.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:46:51am

From the NYT article:

“He had a history of making racial jokes and racist jokes and then saying ‘I’m just kidding’ if somebody got offended by it,” Mr. Whitaker said. “He was pretty well known for doing things like that. A lot of times people excused his behavior because he was a cake maker, so he would always bring cakes to parties — you know, ‘He’s kind of a racist, but he makes really good cakes.’”

Two other friends, Jono Anzalone and Kennedy Rogers, confirmed that Ms. Jones had told them about the remark soon after the party. Mr. Anzalone also said, independently of Mr. Whitaker, that Mr. Janicek had a reputation “of being very crass,” and that he had avoided Mr. Janicek’s bakery because of that.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:47:00am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

5:08 AM Mythical Time: The birds were just switched on. The cricket manager hasn’t switched off the crickets yet.

Crickets need a few more overs for the innings to be done I guess.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:50:20am

Paperweight on the sill (2010)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:50:50am

re: #190 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Crickets need a few more overs for the innings to be done I guess.

Cricket holding a cricket bat dot gif

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John Hughes  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:56:13am

re: #143 Dread Pirate

A staggering 43% of white Harvard students are legacies, athletes, or children of donors, study finds.

Of those, around 75% would have been rejected if not for their special preference.

Affirmative action.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:57:48am

LOL Necrophiliac Caillou.

Governor Pete Ricketts reduced his daily press conferences to once a week, then decided yesterday to simply cancel with no prior notice or explanation. So we at Seeing Red Nebraska will update you instead.

For starters, COVID cases in areas of Nebraska look like they are starting to surge, and this is particularly alarming because a number of factors are skewing that reported number downward.

As you can see, two of the state’s most densely populated counties had extreme surges in May, followed by a decline. Now on July 5 we are seeing daily totals we haven’t seen since the May surge, and they are arriving about two weeks after the Necrophiliac Caillou we have as a governor re-opened bars. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knew opening bars was a terrible idea, and it has since been proven so in states run by other MAGAt governors, like Arizona, Texas, and Florida.

More at Seeing Red Nebraska
COVID Update, July 7

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2020 • 4:59:32am

re: #143 Dread Pirate

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Put another way, about a third of Harvard students don’t meet Harvard’s admission standards.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:00:39am

re: #195 Teddy’s Person

Put another way, about a third of Harvard students don’t meet Harvard’s admission standards.

And it’s not the minority students being given a “free pass” to attend there.

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jeffreyw  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:02:23am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:05:34am

Further down the Seeing Red Nebraska article:

Let’s take a quick look at what working in Nebraska can mean right now. On July 16, Lincoln’s very cozy Zoo Bar is hosting a show by a band called Barnyard Stompers:

Half of the Barnyard Stompers duo is a brilliant scientist named Casey Miller. Kidding-he’s not a scientist; he’s a flaming scrotal cheese COVID denier who just knowingly played an in-person concert while suffering from active, diagnosed COVID, and he thinks that if you die from the disease he gave you, too bad, you were going to die anyway.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:06:17am

re: #196 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And it’s not the minority students being given a “free pass” to attend there.

Edited for clarity:

Put another way, about a third of Harvard students are Jared Kushner types who don’t meet Harvard’s admission standards.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:07:13am

re: #199 Teddy’s Person

Edited for clarity:

Put another way, about a third of Harvard students are Jared Kushner types who don’t meet Harvard’s admission standards.

[burns my SAT test scores]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:09:57am
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Teddy's Person  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:11:51am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Where is Brian Kilmeade while saying all this bullshit? Oh, that’s right, from the safety of this own home. Fox News can fuck, the fuck right off.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:14:11am

Record high set yesterday in Scottsbluff: 105°F. I thought things were melting over here.

The plumber is supposed to arrive today to check out the water leaking down the side of my house. I was unable to find anything unusual with a stethoscope as suggested to me here a couple days ago.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:14:14am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thread, twelve tweets, after which Ms. Rice goes into discussion with Hoarse Whisperer with a thoughtful and civil discussion on the hellsite known as Twitter.

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That was very a good discussion. I agree with Hoarse, though.

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John Hughes  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:14:49am

re: #195 Teddy’s Person

Put another way, about a third of Harvard students don’t meet Harvard’s admission standards.

No. About a third of Harvard’s white students don’t meet Harvard’s admission standards.

Don’t tar the non-white students with the same brush.

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John Hughes  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:16:04am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[burns my SAT test scores]

Should have got someone else to sit the SAT for you. It’s the way it’s done in the best circles I hear.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:18:44am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Which is why Brian consistently has broadcast from the FNC studio during the pandemic.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:19:45am

JFC the candidate for NE-3 now says he doesn’t want to be a Democrat after winning the primary, and wants to form the Nebraska Marijuana Party. He wants to drop out of the race now that he won.

After receiving Elworth’s email saying he didn’t want to remain a Democrat, the state party on June 8 requested paperwork from the Secretary of State’s Office for Elworth’s withdrawal from the race.

Elworth sent the Secretary of State’s Office an email the next day saying the state’s Democrats might be trying to forge his signature to get him out of the race.

He said he wanted to remain the party’s nominee. Now he’s telling people that he wants to leave the party, not the race.

(more)

Democratic nominee wants to switch sides, form new marijuana party (Norfolk, Nebr. Daily News)

State law only requires a person live in Nebraska to run in any district. Mr. Elworth lives in Omaha, not our district.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:19:54am

re: #202 Teddy’s Person

Where is Brian Kilmeade while saying all this bullshit? Oh, that’s right, from the safety of this own home. Fox News can fuck, the fuck right off.

Seriously the gall of this motherfucker to spew this shit from the safety of his own home. Then it’s again it’s on brand for these cowardly fucks.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:25:40am

Wrong.

The GOP has never been in favour of local control when they are not the controllers. That’s simply advert copy.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:27:19am

re: #174 Targetpractice

Don’t forget the call included her shrieking how threatened she was, which would have been played in court as evidence. Attorneys chimed in at the time that they had clients convicted because of tapes like that.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:27:34am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yet, they aren’t in studio together.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:30:01am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So to teach a kid how not to be hit by a moving car is to have them jump in front of a moving car and hope it stops in time? Or should they just not get in front of the moving car in the first fucking place? It wobbles the mind.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:31:51am

re: #212 Mike Lamb

Yet, they aren’t in studio together.

Well of course. Brian’s health matters but your kids aren’t bringing in viewers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:32:18am

re: #213 Eventual Carrion

So to teach a kid how not to be hit by a moving car is to have them jump in front of a moving car and hope it stops in time? Or should they just not get in front of the moving car in the first fucking place? It wobbles the mind.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:44:34am

In 1968 ABC had several shows that would long be remembered but even more that are forgotten. I certainly don’t remember watching many of them. Some were iconic (Big Valley, Peyton Place, etc.) but so many were short lived.

But… I love the music. 1960’s TV had many great theme songs, much more interesting music than what was used decades later. Too much of the ‘80’s and ‘90’s TV shows used very generic sounding pop-music genre.

28 SHOWS OF ABC SUMMER TV 1968

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:48:18am

re: #199 Teddy’s Person

Edited for clarity:

Put another way, about a third of Harvard students are Jared Kushner types who don’t meet Harvard’s admission standards.

Affirmative Action for the privileged…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:49:35am

re: #216 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Gimme that opening theme to Supertrain, FTW!! 😄

Supertrain Opening Credits

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:49:59am

I’m going to hit the rack. I’ll catch y’all later.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:52:29am
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Teukka  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:53:28am

[Sauce]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:53:34am

re: #216 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In 1968 ABC had several shows that would long be remembered but even more that are forgotten. I certainly don’t remember watching many of them. Some were iconic (Big Valley, Peyton Place, etc.) but so many were short lived.

But… I love the music. 1960’s TV had many great theme songs, much more interesting music than what was used decades later. Too much of the ‘80’s and ‘90’s TV shows used very generic sounding pop-music genre.

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Video

The Flying Nun. One of my faves.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:54:23am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

Gimme that opening theme to Supertrain, FTW!! 😄

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Video

Dan Curtis had this turkey under his hat after Dark Shadows.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:54:31am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

Gimme that opening theme to Supertrain, FTW!! 😄

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I don’t remember that at all. What was it about?

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:56:33am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. NJ primaries were yesterday, and they were pretty much as expected. Booker won his primary for the US Senate. There weren’t any upsets for the House seats - Van Drew in South Jersey will face Amy Kennedy in November. Van Drew turned into a full blown Trumpist after impeachment, and Kennedy won the right to send him packing.

In other news, Pascrell won his primary, and he’s currently recovering from coronary bypass surgery.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:56:45am

re: #224 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I don’t remember that at all. What was it about?

A nuclear-powered coast-to-coast high-speed train. A clone of The Love Boat.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:56:55am

re: #224 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I don’t remember that at all. What was it about?

A nuclear-powered train with cruise-ship amenities that was run like the Love Boat.

The train had a swimming pool, a discotheque, &c.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 5:58:31am

re: #227 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A nuclear-powered train with cruise-ship amenities that was run like the Love Boat.

The train had a swimming pool, a discotheque, &c.

aha, so that was where Soul Train came from…

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:01:01am

Florida’s ICUs are quickly filling up with covid19 cases that DeSantis says aren’t anything but an artifact of more testing.

Meanwhile, every GOP state mismanaging the covid19 crisis is seeing more cases per capita than any other country on the planet. Covid19 is running rampant, and the GOP are insisting on reopening even faster.

They think that they can take the Sweden route. Except that Sweden is exhibit A for what not to do. Sweden ignored social distancing/masking/shutdowns, and their economy still cratered, they saw more cases, and they didn’t recover any faster than the neighboring states that did manage to slow/stop the spread.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:02:32am

BTW, Supertrain was such an expensive superflop that that show, along with the U.S. boycott of the 1980 Summer Olympics the following season, damn near bankrupted NBC.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:03:07am
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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:04:07am

re: #227 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So, Snowpiercer without the apocalyptic weather and classist social order.

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Teukka  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:04:32am

re: #229 lawhawk

Florida’s ICUs are quickly filling up with covid19 cases that DeSantis says aren’t anything but an artifact of more testing.

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They think that they can take the Sweden route. Except that Sweden is exhibit A for what not to do. Sweden ignored social distancing/masking/shutdowns, and their economy still cratered, they saw more cases, and they didn’t recover any faster than the neighboring states that did manage to slow/stop the spread.

Also, here in Sweden, people for the most part trust the governement enough to follow their recommendations, which is why the recommendation route wouldn’t work in much of the US. Also, you would’ve had to do it when this whole shitstorm began, not in the middle of it. Also, apparently, Stockholm County hasn’t had a CoViD-19 death in a week (the rest of the country had 35 last day tho).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:07:11am

re: #231 lawhawk

No matter how many of these tweets you post, your daddy will never love you as much as Ivanka himself.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:07:22am

re: #232 lawhawk

So, Snowpiercer without the apocalyptic weather and classist social order.

In 2002, TV Guide ranked Supertrain number 28 on its “50 Worst TV Shows of All Time” list.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:09:21am

re: #232 lawhawk

So, Snowpiercer without the apocalyptic weather and classist social order.

Since Dan Curtis was the producer, maybe it would have done better with more vampires and a brooding mansion on the train.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:11:04am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Since Dan Curtis was the producer, maybe it would have done better with more vampires and a brooding mansion on the train.

I think the Magic Christian had the vampire at least. But that was a cruise ship.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:12:30am

re: #232 lawhawk

So, Snowpiercer without the apocalyptic weather and classist social order.

Or “The Big Bus,” about a nuclear-powered bus spoofing disaster movies in 1976.

It was a strange time.

en.wikipedia.org

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:13:34am

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Or “The Big Bus,” about a nuclear-powered bus spoofing disaster movies in 1976.

It was a strange time.

en.wikipedia.org

I’m gonna have to see that one.

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John Hughes  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:14:33am

re: #239 Dr Lizardo

You should. It’s great.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:15:20am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:18:16am

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Worth catching the movie whenever it rolls around on cable TV.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:20:30am

I am still awaiting a remake of My Mother the Car:

My Mother The Car 1x01 - Come Honk Your Horn

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:23:59am

I’m really going to bed now. Honest.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:25:00am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:25:37am

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m really going to bed now. Honest.

Stick around. Always enjoy reading you!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:29:07am

re: #240 John Hughes

You should. It’s great.

I was thinking of 1974’s Earthquake, one of the better disaster flicks. Some of the FX still holds up pretty well, especially the scene of the Capitol Records building falling down.

earthquake 1974

The rather crudely animated blood spatter at the end of the clip occurred because the FX team couldn’t get the blood spray to work correctly - the idea originally was the stunt people were to be sprayed with gallon after gallon of stage blood; however, the rumor persists to this day that it was because the scene originally was way more graphic (guts, dismembered bodies, etc.) and the MPAA threatened to slap an R rating on it, so they added that animated that cartoonish blood spatter in post-production.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:29:51am

re: #201 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:30:53am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:34:22am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:39:51am

Nate Cohn: “Over all, voters in the battleground states who said Bernie Sanders was their top choice for president said they backed Mr. Biden over President Trump, 87% to 4%. If there was a Bernie-or-Bust movement, it has either faded with the conclusion of the Democratic race, or it never existed in serious numbers in the battleground states.”

“Mr. Biden commands even more significant support from voters who supported Elizabeth Warren in the primary. The Democrats who said she was their top choice to be the Democratic nominee backed Mr. Biden over Mr. Trump by a staggering margin of 96% to 0%…

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:42:43am

re: #250 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

National polls continue to show Biden up by more than 10 points (and Trump’s doing all he can to make it 20+). But media outlets like the Times claim that there’s an enthusiasm gap for Biden.

Never mind that there’s dead ender GOPers - white nationalist bigots - who will carry out Trump’s stochastic terroristic threats and that’s increasingly who remains as a GOPer backing Trump. Everyone else is abandoning Trump in some fashion, and even longtime GOPers are trying to find ways to pivot to avoid getting drummed out of Congress.

We need a blue tsunami, and to keep voting blue nationwide to deny the GOP the opportunity to again ruin the nation as they did with Trump.

We also need to see more state polling of likely voters to gauge just how badly Trump is doing - if he’s making traditional states like Texas go purple, then he’s truly fucked and so too are the GOPers representing those states because Trump’s coattails work both ways - like a rug being pulled out from under them.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:43:08am

re: #251 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

I’d love Liz as Veep (I don’t care about her age), Kamala AG, Duckworth Sec Defense, and Clinton as Sec State (I know she wouldn’t accept but she’s known and respected worldwide which God knows we will need).

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William Lewis  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:43:09am

re: #168 Targetpractice

*sigh*

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:43:11am
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William Lewis  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:44:42am

re: #174 Targetpractice

tl;dr, Ms. Cooper is only facing consequences for her actions because Mr. Cooper took steps to protect his own innocence.

She is still getting by with white privilege - false report charges? Hell, no. She should be looking at 25 years for attempted murder because that is exactly what she did.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:44:50am

re: #200 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[burns my SAT test scores]

Shoulda had someone take them for you. //

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:46:07am

re: #249 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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This virus doesn’t care about race, but it does care about income level. I suspect that if you did a comparison based on income level across the board, you would find that the poorer people are getting way sicker than the rich, because the rich can choose to stay away from dangerous locations. But our system has disproportionately punished blacks and Latinos, making them far poorer than whites on average.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:46:07am

re: #206 John Hughes

Should have got someone else to sit the SAT for you. It’s the way it’s done in the best circles I hear.

Gmta

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:50:21am

LOL

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:52:42am

re: #220 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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No
Asked and answered weeks ago
Interesting that it’s being asked at all though

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:53:31am

Ewwwww….

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:54:10am

re: #261 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

No
Asked and answered weeks ago
Interesting that it’s being asked at all though

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Agreed. I just thought it was (weirdly) funny.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:56:31am
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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:57:36am
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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:58:46am

Trump’s going against his own CDC recommendations on schools opening too fast and too soon.

He’s a fucking sociopath and doesn’t care how many die so long as he and his GOPer cronies can profit.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:59:23am

Republicans in the future, on breathing aparatuses: At least *breathe in oxygen* we have *cough* herd immunity.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:59:31am

Interesting. Another highly complex issue that trump can’t understand, can’t defend, can’t explain.

School is daycare for the kiddies and parents who can’t work from home are desperate. But trump is too stupid, simplistic and incapable of using this to his advantage.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:02:48am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:03:06am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No matter how many of these tweets you post, your daddy will never love you as much as Ivanka himself

I was going with Ivanka’s tits

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Jay C  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:04:11am

re: #261 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

No
Asked and answered weeks ago
Interesting that it’s being asked at all though

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I disagree.
Not that I think it will help Trump at all (probably the opposite), but dumping Pence as VP nom would be just the sort of stunt that a failing reality-TV show would try -in desperation- to recover its plummeting ratings (and save itself from cancellation).
Dumb as all hell, of course: but then, this whole shitshow of an Administration has been a sort of reality-TV spectacle anyway (and its Chief Buffoon has long made it clear that “ratings” are his main priority). - so I wouldn’t discount their trying it.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:04:39am

First case:
Our Lady of Guadalupe School v. Morrissey Berru 7-2 with Alito delivering the majority opinion:

The First Amendment’s Religion Clauses foreclose the adjudication of [the teachers’] employment-discrimination claims.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:08:12am

re: #272 lawhawk

First case:
Our Lady of Guadalupe School v. Morrissey Berru 7-2 with Alito delivering the majority opinion:

The First Amendment’s Religion Clauses foreclose the adjudication of [the teachers’] employment-discrimination claims.

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Can’t read it. What was the decision?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:08:26am

re: #271 Jay C

I disagree.
Not that I think it will help Trump at all (probably the opposite), but dumping Pence as VP nom would be just the sort of stunt that a failing reality-TV show would try -in desperation- to recover its plummeting ratings (and save itself from cancellation).
Dumb as all hell, of course: but then, this whole shitshow of an Administration has been a sort of reality-TV spectacle anyway (and its Chief Buffoon has long made it clear that “ratings” are his main priority). - so I wouldn’t discount their trying it.

Dump Trump for Kayne West thinking that it will get him the black vote?

I’m sure that would be a stupendous move with his remaining base of evangelical nuts and racists.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:10:55am

re: #256 William Lewis

She is still getting by with white privilege - false report charges? Hell, no. She should be looking at 25 years for attempted murder because that is exactly what she did.

It’s privilege that this is even up for debate

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:11:12am

re: #274 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Dump Trump for Kayne West thinking that it will get him the black vote?

I’m sure that would be a stupendous move with his remaining base of evangelical nuts and racists.

Ratings gold!!!

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:14:56am

re: #273 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Still no word on Trump’s trio of cases - tax documents, Mazars release of tax documents relating to Trump, etc.

Those three and one other case (Little Sisters) remains on the docket.

Little Sisters was decided so that Trump can weaken the Obamacare contraceptive mandate.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:15:24am

That’s it - no other court decisions today. We’ll have to wait to next week tomorrow (corrected) for the Trump cases.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:16:04am

re: #266 lawhawk

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They put the fire out (more or less as metaphor) before letting people back in the building

The fire in your building is raging totally out of control and you want to hold classes for k-12

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:16:30am

re: #278 lawhawk

That’s it - no other court decisions today. We’ll have to wait to next week for the Trump cases.

Tomorrow. That’s the last day for opinions and the three Trump cases are the final three cases left.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:17:37am

re: #276 Dr Lizardo

Ratings gold!!!

The penultimate episode! The finale will be spectacular! Believe me!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:18:39am

re: #271 Jay C

I disagree.
Not that I think it will help Trump at all (probably the opposite), but dumping Pence as VP nom would be just the sort of stunt that a failing reality-TV show would try -in desperation- to recover its plummeting ratings (and save itself from cancellation).
Dumb as all hell, of course: but then, this whole shitshow of an Administration has been a sort of reality-TV spectacle anyway (and its Chief Buffoon has long made it clear that “ratings” are his main priority). - so I wouldn’t discount their trying it.

Agree
He def could try it
And it won’t work/help

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:19:12am

re: #280 Dr Lizardo

Tomorrow. That’s the last day for opinions and the three Trump cases are the final three cases left.

Yup. You’re right - tomorrow. I fixed the post above.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:19:57am

re: #283 lawhawk

Yup. You’re right - tomorrow. I fixed the post above.

SCOTUS certainly has a flair for the dramatic. I never would’ve figured that. 😄

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:22:07am

re: #284 Dr Lizardo

SCOTUS certainly has a flair for the dramatic. I never would’ve figured that. 😄

Well Roberts got an owie
Could be affecting his judgement. //

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:22:30am

re: #265 Belafon

if trump gets blown out, trumpism will be remembered as a luxury good for well-off white people and less a response to economic desperation

I grew up in the industrial Midwest at a time in the 60’s and early 70’s when things were booming for working-class white people: there was little economic anxiety or desperation, but I clearly recall that most of those guys were still pretty damn racist.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:24:23am

Just a quick heads up. We have a Space X launch scheduled for today.

SpaceX is targeting Wednesday, July 8 at 11:59 a.m. EDT, 15:59 UTC, for launch of its tenth Starlink mission, which will include 57 Starlink satellites and 2 satellites from BlackSky, a Spaceflight customer. Falcon 9 will lift off from Launch Complex 39A (LC-39A) at Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:27:02am

re: #268 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Interesting. Another highly complex issue that trump can’t understand, can’t defend, can’t explain.

School is daycare for the kiddies and parents who can’t work from home are desperate. But trump is too stupid, simplistic and incapable of using this to his advantage.

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I have a divorced-mom friend with two daughters, 15 and 14. The older, the same age as my youngest, could power a small city if you hooked her up to a generator, and she and my son feed off of each other when they’re together, coming up with all sorts of crazy things. But mom’s job is at home now because of the virus so she needs the kids at school.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:29:01am

re: #284 Dr Lizardo

SCOTUS certainly has a flair for the dramatic. I never would’ve figured that. 😄

They’ve often kept the biggest cases to the last day.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:30:47am

re: #289 lawhawk

They’ve often kept the biggest cases to the last day.

In any event, I’m sure Trump’s sweating bullets about the outcome - he’s probably gonna have three scoops of ice cream tonight to soothe his nerves. Heh.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:32:01am

re: #197 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:33:13am

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That movie made me laugh in parts, especially where they spoofed nuclear security and driving safely

The above text seems horrible to my 58 year old sensibilities of course, but 16 year old me thought it was a hilarious movie

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:33:25am

i’ve been singing this in my head for two days

YouTube

no idea why

today at breakfast i started singing it out loud
mrs dm smiled the first time through

now she wants to kill me

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:37:31am

re: #284 Dr Lizardo

SCOTUS certainly has a flair for the dramatic. I never would’ve figured that. 😄

today / tomorrow - - it’s kind of pointless

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:44:42am

As usual, Facebook gonna Facebook:

(via Gizmodo) Throughout the first half of the year, Facebook seemed increasingly poised to ally itself with the definition of “free speech” favored by right-wingers. In the most visible examples, Zuckerberg and crew twisted and baked themselves into lumpy brain pretzels to justify not removing posts by Donald Trump spreading baseless lies about voter fraud and threatening violence against protesters. The CEO even went on Fox News to proclaim Facebook wouldn’t be the “arbiter of truth.”

Then, last month, Zuckerberg abruptly flipped his public messaging on the matter in response to the boycott, staff walkouts, and mounting political pressure. But talk is cheap and Facebook is worth hundreds of billions of dollars. In private, Zuckerberg assured staff advertisers would return “soon enough,” called the situation more of a “reputational and a partner issue,” and claimed Facebook wouldn’t bow to pressure from outside parties. On Tuesday morning, Sandberg posted a lengthy letter claiming that Facebook would do more to stand “firmly against hate,” but simultaneously laid the groundwork for the company to bail on any of the recommendations in a soon-to-be released “independent civil rights audit” (commissioned, for the record, by Facebook). At the meeting later in the day, Zuckerberg and Sandberg failed to meet any of the boycott campaign’s demands, civil rights groups present said.

In a statement to Gizmodo via email, the Stop Hate for Profit campaign wrote the “only recommendation [Facebook] even attempted to address is hiring a civil rights position,” but that the company refused to commit to making it a c-suite level role. There was “no attempt” by Facebook to address any of the other recommendations, according to the campaign. Those included no longer actively recommending users join hate and extremist groups via algorithm, proactively taking down those groups, establishing a civil rights infrastructure, third-party independent auditing of its anti-hate and misinformation efforts, and refunding advertisers whose ads run alongside content that violates Facebook’s terms of service.

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dell*nix  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:50:50am

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:55:38am

re: #53 Sherlock Hound

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Those that seriously believe this, SHOULD be the ones wearing “face diapers”. Then we won’t have to hear them!

If you call it a “face diaper” you are declaring you talk a lot of shit.

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nines09  Jul 8, 2020 • 7:57:55am

re: #197 jeffreyw

“ALL MINEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:05:49am

re: #297 Rightwingconspirator

If you call it a “face diaper” you are declaring you talk a lot of shit.

Masks are like Guns and The Wall or a Confederate Flag: symbols of identification. Or rather lack of masks and aggressively and belligerently rejecting them is how these goombahs demonstrate their manhood and patriotic resolve not to let America be bullied and misinformed by a lot of Deep-State liberal scientists…

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jeffreyw  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:12:06am

re: #298 nines09

“ALL MINEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!”

I love the quiet that comes between shifts. I miss smoking.

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jeffreyw  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:17:13am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:19:59am

Hopefully by this time next year we will have endured 6 months of “TRUMP WAS A CLINTON PLANT WHO’S PURPOSE WAS TO DESTROY THE GOP!!!!”. I’m hopeful, and really looking forward to it.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:20:13am

re: #296 dell*nix

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re: #296 dell*nix

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sagehen  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:20:34am

re: #204 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That was very a good discussion. I agree with Hoarse, though.

I don’t want to throw Ms Cooper in prison. But a fine, and some community service, and having that on her record forever and it will turn up on future background checks, that seems appropriate.

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nines09  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:23:56am

re: #300 jeffreyw

I love the quiet that comes between shifts. I miss smoking.

We had a huge pin oak in front of the house. Huge. Old farmer tales say a big crop of acorns would be a harbinger of a hard winter. Some truth to it I think, but more likely good growing conditions. It was a magnet for squirrels and blue jays.
You would never even know there were a few dozen jays up there because they were perfectly quiet throwing acorn after acorn down their gullet.
I found it fascinating.
That tree on a good year would drop hundreds of pounds and that was just what hit the ground.
A few bad storms and the location forced us to take it down.

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ozharas  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:26:39am

Unsurprising.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:27:05am

I said the three tax cases would be the final three decided on Friday. Missed it by a day. I’ll turn in my crystal ball now.

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BigPapa  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:28:14am

LC Vindmann is retiring due to bullying and harassment. Trumpers are not pro troops.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:29:48am

re: #307 Ace Rothstein

I said the three tax cases would be the final three decided on Friday. Missed it by a day. I’ll turn in my crystal ball now.

fwiw “released”
they were decided long ago

unless they’re furiously still typing it up, this is scotus playing theater

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:30:59am

re: #302 GlutenFreeJesus

Hopefully by this time next year we will have endured 6 months of “TRUMP WAS A CLINTON PLANT WHO’S PURPOSE WAS TO DESTROY THE GOP!!!!”. I’m hopeful, and really looking forward to it.

“And you were dumb enough to fall for it! That doesn’t exactly make you look very good, does it?”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:32:04am

re: #310 Belafon

“And you were dumb enough to fall for it! That doesn’t exactly make you look very good, does it?”

Deep State New York City running the country for the benefit of the libs and their minority lackeys.
/////

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John Hughes  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:32:42am

re: #279 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

They put the fire out (more or less as metaphor) before letting people back in the building

The fire in your building is raging totally out of control and you want to hold classes for k-12

Well, in Trump’s list they put out the fire, except for Sweden.

Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden

You might also like to consider Israel, which seems to have reopened schools to early.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:33:28am

re: #304 sagehen

I don’t want to throw Ms Cooper in prison. But a fine, and some community service, and having that on her record forever and it will turn up on future background checks, that seems appropriate.

In this case I’m not feeling very kind. The only thing that saved him was him recording it. Otherwise, it would have been he said/but he’s a black man and we’re not in a nice place for that. This was nearly assault by proxy.

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makeitstop  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:34:43am

re: #271 Jay C

I disagree.
Not that I think it will help Trump at all (probably the opposite), but dumping Pence as VP nom would be just the sort of stunt that a failing reality-TV show would try -in desperation- to recover its plummeting ratings (and save itself from cancellation).
Dumb as all hell, of course: but then, this whole shitshow of an Administration has been a sort of reality-TV spectacle anyway (and its Chief Buffoon has long made it clear that “ratings” are his main priority). - so I wouldn’t discount their trying it.

They should bring on a cutesy little kid, like the Partridge Family did once all the kids started getting long in the tooth…

The Partridge Family feat. Ricky Segal - When I Grow Up

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:38:04am
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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:42:07am

From balloon-juice.com:

In yesterday’s post about a Lincoln Project ad, there was some discussion in the comments about what the Lincoln Project founders would do after Trump’s defeat (if he’s defeated), as well as some well-deserved skepticism about their motivations.

If you put yourself in a position of a never-Trumper political consultant — the genuine kind, not the kind that will leave the box for President blank on their ballot because Joe Biden said something about taking down a statue once — you’re in a tough spot. If, Dios mediante, Trump is defeated and Democrats get the Senate and increase their majority in the House, who’s left in those seats on the R side of the aisle? Hard-core Trumpers in R+10 and better districts, that’s who. They’ll re-brand if Trump loses (“the Qanon party,” probably), but the ideology and motivations will remain. So that rules out pretty much every sitting Senator and Representative as a potential client if you’re a never-Trumper consultant.

But what about the challengers to the newly elected Democrats in 2022 and beyond? Good question — every one of the candidates who would want to hire a never-Trumper will probably face a primary challenge from a Qanon supporter. Having a never-Trumper on staff is a big problem that will probably hurt a Republican candidate facing a Qanon opponent, and as we’ve seen, these Qanon candidates can beat Republican incumbents in primaries.

So, it’s pretty likely that a never-Trumper consultant is politically radioactive in today and tomorrow’s Republican party. I’m not saying this to shed a salty tear for some DC bottom feeders who would be happily lining up to work for President Jeb Bush or President Marco Rubio if the chips had fallen a different way. I’m saying it because the modern Republican Party is rotten to its Qanon, OAN core, and Trump exiting will not drain the pustulated furuncle that the party has become. I don’t know if I’ll see a functioning, conservative opposition party rooted at least in part in reality during my lifetime. Certainly a never-Trumper who thinks that Trump is the only problem with their party is living in a rock-and-roll fantasy.

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plansbandc  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:42:26am

re: #301 jeffreyw

My that looks tasty.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:44:13am
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:44:51am

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman retires, citing campaign of ‘bullying’ and ‘intimidation’ by Trump

Trump strikes again and gets away with it.

washingtonpost.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:47:49am

re: #310 Belafon

I’m looking forward to all the mocking. F their feelings. :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:48:00am

re: #319 🌹UOJB!

Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman retires, citing campaign of ‘bullying’ and ‘intimidation’ by Trump

Trump strikes again and gets away with it.

washingtonpost.com

Whistleblowers are traitors

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:48:57am

re: #288 Belafon

I have a divorced-mom friend with two daughters, 15 and 14. The older, the same age as my youngest, could power a small city if you hooked her up to a generator, and she and my son feed off of each other when they’re together, coming up with all sorts of crazy things. But mom’s job is at home now because of the virus so she needs the kids at school.

This is again proving my point. School is daycare for kids. Sure, they learn, and I’m taking nothing away from teachers (who should be paid more!), but school is daycare.

Forcing reopening puts kids, teachers and families at risk.

How many of you with kids feel good about sending kids back to school (not how many need it, which is a whole different and valuable discussion)?

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:51:44am

apparently enough people arent stupid

new Monmouth poll: Just 18% of voters think “defund the police” means “get rid of the police,” while 77% believe it means a call to action to change the way police operate.

…trump campaign ads portrays “Biden’s America” as one without any police.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:51:58am

Looks like today is a good day to stop working for or doing business with any religious organization.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:52:27am

*yes, not all religious organizations.

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lawhawk  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:52:52am

re: #306 ozharas

Unfu…. nope… totally fucking believable.

BD has facilities/HQ not far from us here in Northern NJ. It’s a huge medical supplies/devices companies. That they aren’t being included is absolutely bugnuts fucking insane.

That they aren’t included is malpractice.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:53:01am

Specifically the ones who want to impose their will on the rest of society.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:53:09am
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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:55:56am
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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:55:56am

re: #322 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This is again proving my point. School is daycare for kids. Sure, they learn, and I’m taking nothing away from teachers (who should be paid more!), but school is daycare.

Forcing reopening puts kids, teachers and families at risk.

How many of you with kids feel good about sending kids back to school (not how many need it, which is a whole different and valuable discussion)?

If I could stay at home, I would set up a mini-school (daycare) for my son’s friends to allow them to collaborate and keep them working on school work. Our school system is giving parents the option for next year of whether to keep the kids at home or send them to school. I’m mostly leaning towards keeping mine at home, but he’s gonna be missing the social aspect, and he’s going to be missing band, and he got moved up to the top band in only his sophmore year.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:56:36am
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jeffreyw  Jul 8, 2020 • 8:57:12am

re: #317 plansbandc

My that looks tasty.

Today, I predict chili dogs will be lunch.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:01:03am

re: #308 BigPapa

LC Vindmann is retiring due to bullying and harassment. Trumpers are not pro troops.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:01:26am

re: #331 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

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FAUX and FIENDS bringing up Kanye…

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:02:08am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:02:20am

re: #304 sagehen

I don’t want to throw Ms Cooper in prison. But a fine, and some community service, and having that on her record forever and it will turn up on future background checks, that seems appropriate.

This. Agreed 100%.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:02:27am

Everything is fine…

“… No reason was given for the closure, which comes a day after nearby Marine Corps Air Station Futenma ordered personnel to shelter in place for four hours after “several” people there tested positive for the coronavirus. …”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:03:00am

Launch is scrubbed due to weather.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:04:13am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:04:42am

re: #308 BigPapa

LC Vindmann is retiring due to bullying and harassment. Trumpers are not pro troops.

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Another book coming.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:06:55am

re: #308 BigPapa

LC Vindmann is retiring due to bullying and harassment. Trumpers are not pro troops.

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I wonder how many Congressional hearings a retired Vindmann is willing to participate in.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:08:03am

re: #341 Belafon

I wonder how many Congressional hearings a retired Vindmann is willing to participate in.

I wonder how many death threats he will receive for doing so…

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ericblair  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:09:11am

re: #304 sagehen

I don’t want to throw Ms Cooper in prison. But a fine, and some community service, and having that on her record forever and it will turn up on future background checks, that seems appropriate.

Meh. She was SWATting the guy and she knew it. Too fucking bad it backfired this time.

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:09:33am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wonder how many death threats he will receive for doing so…

As compared to before.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:09:50am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wonder how many death threats he will receive for doing so…

I’m sure MAGATS have already made hundreds of death threats against him.

As for hearings, nothing in the Senate and the House will have the Usual Gang Of Republican Assholes disrupting the hearings.

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stpaulbear  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:10:37am

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whistleblowers are traitors

I hope his book is in the final editing phase and that he starts showing up for a lot of long interviews on CNN and MSNBC.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:14:01am

I have a local five year old granddaughter and a two year old grandson. The latter just moved back to Ann Arbor from San Francisco.

I’ve been “retired” for 6 years. My wife retired six weeks ago and is providing 5 hours of childcare a day for the boy, whose parents both work at home in their home. We are gearing up to watch the two year old full time at our home during the day.

The five year old is supposed to start kindergarten but we’re all a bit iffy about that. Fortunately, the schools are allowing parents to choose remote learning which will probably be administered by my wife and I.

We are all within a pretty tight bubble but luckily our bubble includes the 20 acres of woods and meadows and the old farmhouse where we live.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:25:06am
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:25:46am

THREAD
You know that thing House Democrats warned would happen if Trump gets away with withholding aid to Ukraine?
It’s happening.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:27:08am

My governor’s not going along with DeVos:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:28:59am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:29:41am

I hate to go there, but we’re talking about a black man, a woman and an older white guy.

Stands to reason which one conservatives would probably have LESS of an issue with.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:33:33am

re: #352 Eclectic Cyborg

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I hate to go there, but we’re talking about a black man, a woman and an older white guy.

Stands to reason which one conservatives would probably have LESS of an issue with.

It’s easy to Go There when you have facts and history on your side.

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Citizen K  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:33:49am

They honestly just want to kill us all, just so they can act like they won some victory against a virus they’ve basically already surrendered to.

They want a fucking genocide because they can’t accept the idea that they’re not right on anything, much less these specific somethings.

Countless Americans will die, because we have a fucking Emperor in office who doesn’t fucking give a shit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:33:57am

If Obama was the President and was demanding schools open, the GOP would fight tooth and nail to keep them closed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:35:48am

re: #349 The Pie Overlord!

THREAD
You know that thing House Democrats warned would happen if Trump gets away with withholding aid to Ukraine?
It’s happening.

[Embedded content]

Every once in awhile I wish I had Richard Burton’s power in the 1978 horror film Medusa Touch — and Devos, Trump, Pence would all be gone. It would be a nightmare for the world if anyone actually possessed such power and it would bring only unending evil on us all — but still..

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Dread Pirate  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:37:51am
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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:38:00am

re: #356 Hecuba’s daughter

Every once in awhile I wish I had Richard Burton’s power in the 1978 horror film Medusa Touch — and Devos, Trump, Pence would all be gone. It would be a nightmare for the world if anyone actually possessed such power and it would bring only unending evil on us all — but still..

There’s an anime called Deathnote that is kind of similar.

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Teukka  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:38:29am

MP4 Video
Oof Size: XXL.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:38:44am

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

If Obama was the President and was demanding schools open, the GOP would fight tooth and nail to keep them closed.

Well that’s because they weren’t the education centers they are today.They were “indoctrination” centers that needed to be de/underfunded to protect the Nation. Hence the push for private schools and vouchers.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:42:39am
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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:42:55am

It’s a chance to murder poor people and keep their wallets fat.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:43:29am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:46:06am

re: #355 Eclectic Cyborg

If Obama was the President and was demanding schools open, the GOP would fight tooth and nail to keep them closed.

If Obama was still POTUS he’d have been impeached and hung by the same conservatives killing Americans.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:48:49am

re: #364 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If Obama was still POTUS he’d have been impeached and hung by the same conservatives killing Americans.

If Obama were still POTUS, there would have been no pandemic because his team would have stopped it before it really spread outside China.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:50:32am
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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:51:29am

re: #365 Hecuba’s daughter

If Obama were still POTUS, there would have been no pandemic because his team would have stopped it before it really spread outside China.

Agree. What people should be saying is “On January 21, Republicans will complain that President Biden has spent the last 13 months doing too much and too little to respond to the virus.”

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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:52:00am

re: #366 jaunte

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That sounds an awful lot like exactly what NYC went through.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:52:38am

re: #368 Belafon

That sounds an awful lot like exactly what NYC went through.

but this time it’s not the governor’s fault, right?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:54:02am
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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:55:39am

re: #370 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:55:39am
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Belafon  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:55:43am

re: #370 Charles Johnson

From earlier:

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stpaulbear  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:56:12am

re: #359 Teukka

Oof Size: XXL.

That may be my favorite anti-trump clip. His voice is so shrill and diabolical, and the chart unfurling as he speaks just places the nail right where it needs to land. It says everything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:56:20am
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jimmyvluv4u  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:56:23am

re: #370 Charles Johnson

Statues of what? Trump? I still think that’s where this statue fixation comes from - he thinks future protesters are going to try to tear down the statues his supporters build of him.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:56:57am

re: #365 Hecuba’s daughter

If Obama were still POTUS, there would have been no pandemic because his team would have stopped it before it really spread outside China.

I don’t agree with that. There were 12k H1N1 deaths. There’d have still been deaths just far less… But enough for conservatives to have done their thing (which includes not doing what that damn Democrat tell them because of rugged individualism).

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stpaulbear  Jul 8, 2020 • 9:58:57am

re: #366 jaunte

Houston is Italy. : (

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 8, 2020 • 10:02:09am

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whistleblowers are traitors

If Vindmen is a civilian, he’s free to talk. Prior to the election, when it counts.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 8, 2020 • 10:02:30am

re: #366 jaunte

Probably a great thing I don’t have kids in school. Because it would take men with court orders and badges to drag my kids back to school before there is a vaccine, a cure, or a near end to the threat. of the virus. They can obligate vaccination, can they obligate attendance without one? I doubt it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 10:02:45am

re: #376 jimmyvluv4u

Statues of what? Trump? I still think that’s where this statue fixation comes from - he thinks future protesters are going to try to tear down the statues his supporters build of him.

He is especially worried about his face being removed from Mount Rushmore once it is chiseled there…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 8, 2020 • 10:03:08am

re: #377 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I don’t agree with that. There were 12k H1N1 deaths. There’d have still been deaths just far less… But enough for conservatives to have done their thing (which includes not doing what that damn Democrat tell them because of rugged individualism).

But this is very different — far more lethal than H1N1. It’s hard to stop a disease when 99.9% of cases are mild. We learned from that experience and from Ebola — there was a pandemic team and CDC people embedded in China. We would have been involved in Wuhan in December when the first hints of this disease came out. We would have been leading at the very beginning.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 10:04:17am

If you just assume that Trump works for Putin to deliberately damage the U.S., this makes more sense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 8, 2020 • 10:04:35am

re: #382 Hecuba’s daughter

But this is very different — far more lethal than H1N1. It’s hard to stop a disease when 99.9% of cases are mild. We learned from that experience and from Ebola — there was a pandemic team and CDC people embedded in China. We have been involved in Wuhan in December when the first hints of this disease came out. We would have been leading at the very beginning.

H1N1 was much easier to control, just take a temperature and put people who have one aside for testing.

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jaunte  Jul 8, 2020 • 10:06:26am
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stpaulbear  Jul 8, 2020 • 10:09:52am

re: #370 Charles Johnson

ABC News
@ABC
JUST IN: Trump campaign considers displaying statues at future rallies.

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sagehen  Jul 8, 2020 • 10:32:24am

re: #368 Belafon

That sounds an awful lot like exactly what NYC went through.

How many of those are “tried to treat Corona at home and it wasn’t enough” vs “was having a regular unrelated heart attack, but didn’t go to the hospital because it’s full up”?

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dell*nix  Jul 8, 2020 • 2:06:38pm

re: #303 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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John Hughes  Jul 8, 2020 • 6:09:06pm

re: #365 Hecuba’s daughter

If Obama were still POTUS, there would have been no pandemic because his team would have stopped it before it really spread outside China.

Obama was a nice, competent guy, but that is grade-a bollocks. If Obama had been president the coronavirus would still have arrived in the US. The difference would have been the federal response. Obama could not have stopped the insane state-level handling of the epidemic.


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