The Bob Cesca Podcast: Author Greg Mitchell

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Author Greg Mitchell — Bob’s guest today is award-winning author and nuclear weapons expert Greg Mitchell. Greg’s new book, “The Beginning Or The End: How Hollywood―and America―Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb” is out this week and available everywhere. BUY THE BOOK HERE. The book tells the harrowing and sometimes wacky true-life story of the first movie to mythologize the use of the atomic bomb to end World War II. And if you like what you hear, please help support this show by subscribing to our bonus content at bobcescashow.com.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:00:17pm

fook da moran

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:00:57pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:03:34pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think the words Chris Lu is looking for are lying and incompetent. Either way, Esper - like all of Trump world - is a hack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:03:54pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:05:23pm

“award-winning author and nuclear weapons expert”

This is a title I very much desire to have.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:06:00pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good thing we haven’t been invaded or anything real emergency going on.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:06:59pm

Trump 2016: Make America Great Again
Trump 2020: I’ll Bring Back The Confederate Monuments Again

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:07:24pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:08:25pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

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“Too much testing isn’t good we don’t need more testing but states need to do better with more testing. I am not responsible at all but schools MUST reopen.”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:10:29pm

Really looking forward to this one. Season 1 is exceptional.

THE BOYS Season 2 Trailer 2 (2020)

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EPR-radar  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:10:57pm

Trump wants to reopen schools to pretend that everything is normal.

Miller and DeVos want to open schools to create further disaster that will kill more non-whites than whites (Miller) and/or kill the idea of public education (DeVos).

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:11:27pm
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JC1  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:12:08pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So much for kids not being vectors.

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EPR-radar  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:13:04pm

re: #13 JC1

So much for kids not being vectors.

The idea of kids not being vectors is farcical on its face.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:13:07pm

Shpx Gehzc

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:16:40pm

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

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I can now imagine Trump say “Well, it’s the Indians’ problem now.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:17:24pm

re: #16 Belafon

I can now imagine Trump say “Well, it’s the Indians’ problem now.”

Wouldn’t be the first time a white man said “Fuck you, you’re on your own” after natives got sick…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:17:28pm

Some people I know who are religious extremists have made not wearing masks during a pandemic a test of faith. So they are basically a snake handling cult.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:17:39pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:18:30pm

Jim Jordan has a sad on Fox about the accounting firm of Pelosi, Schiff and Waters.

He continued, “Think about the average American who is terrified of being audited by the IRS. If Congress has the ability to look at Trump’s tax returns and everything else… you’re talking about Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, and Maxine Waters auditing the president, I think that’s a terrifying thing…” Source: C&L

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:18:47pm

Today’s Bob Cesca has been posted.

One Term Loser — [Explicit Language] Major Supreme Court victories against the imperial presidency; Mazars and others have to turn over Trump’s financial documents to investigators; Additional hurdles in court; Deutsche Bank agrees to turn over documents; Too Much Information; Revisiting the New York Times investigation into Trump’s tax scams; Black Lives Matter mural painted outside Trump Tower; Red Hat couple charged with hate crimes; TRex’s awesome new article for The Guardian; The CDC will not revise its reopening guidelines; Tulsa is seeing a spike in coronavirus cases; Jody Hamilton and TRex David Ferguson are here; With music by C.C. Grace and Stone Cold Chakra; and more!

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Mike Lamb  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:18:52pm

re: #19 DodgerFan1988

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Good lord, that is a big head.

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Jay C  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:21:37pm

re: #22 Mike Lamb

Good lord, that is a big head.

And so little inside it….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:26:10pm

re: #19 DodgerFan1988

I can’t look at that photo without thinking: “Matt Gaetz has a god-awful fashion sense”

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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:26:32pm

I finished GLOW on Netflix. I really liked it.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:26:50pm

re: #18 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Some people I know who are religious extremists have made not wearing masks during a pandemic a test of faith. So they are basically a snake handling cult.

George Hensley who is generally credited with introducing the practice of christian worship with poisonous snakes subsequently died from snakebite suffered during a church service.

God is an iron.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:28:56pm
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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:29:02pm

I came up with 2 punk songs to write. Covid Related and Drop the Mask.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:30:53pm

re: #20 Teddy’s Person

Jim Jordan has a sad on Fox about the accounting firm of Pelosi, Schiff and Waters.

Yeah, and what if the GOP suddenly started demanding access to all the documents and emails at the Clinton Foundation…

Oh yeah they did demand those.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:31:49pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

Mass brain damage? That would guarantee the future of the Republican Party. No wonder they’re so enthusiastic.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:33:00pm

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Mass brain damage? That would guarantee the future of the Republican Party. No wonder they’re so enthusiastic.

I was actually wondering if the experts were conflating correlation and causation…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:34:54pm

re: #20 Teddy’s Person

Jim Jordan has a sad on Fox about the accounting firm of Pelosi, Schiff and Waters.

Narrator: The average American is not terrified of being audited by the IRS.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:35:43pm

re: #20 Teddy’s Person

Jim Jordan has a sad on Fox about the accounting firm of Pelosi, Schiff and Waters.

Gym Jordan sounds terrified about being audited by the IRS.

Does he have something to hide?

I’m just asking questions….

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:36:32pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:37:07pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

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they’re still doing these dog and pony shows at the WH?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:37:22pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

I never buy those products anyway.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:38:03pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

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“We’re blessed to have a leader like Trump, who has done so many wonderful things as president, more wonderful things in 3 1/2 years than any president ever before which is why president Trump is our most favorite president ever, just the bestest.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:38:37pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

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I’ll be on the lookout so I don’t mistakenly by anything from them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:38:41pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:39:08pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So president Trump hasn’t in fact made America great again?

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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:39:12pm

Heads up guitar players for free $100 amp sim plugin.

Download IK Multimedia’s $100 AmpliTube Metal software for free: heavy guitar amps and effects for all

I picked it up and it’s pretty good for free.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:40:06pm
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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:40:08pm

re: #30 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Works for any Republican
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:41:27pm

Dark thoughts: saw the Trump TV ad about violence in the streets due to the “Defund the police” proposals that they claim would be implemented under Biden. My brother talked about escalating crime in New York and Chicago. And all I could think is that the police support Trump and they may deliberately sabotage crime investigations because they are unhappy with being called to account for their brutality. They may be working full time to help Trump’s re-election by slacking on the job and promoting the notion that our streets will never be safe under a Democratic administration. They want to give full rein to their fascist instincts — which Trump has enthusiastically endorsed. He likes the thought of seeing cops and the military waging war against protesters.

Hopefully the American public won’t fall for this tactic. But as I’ve said before, “Defund the Police” is a terrible slogan — anything that requires explanation is a losing message. Most voters aren’t going to be paying attention until after the “conventions”. Let’s not do or say anything that can confuse the typical voter who isn’t going to be spending time exploring the nuances of policies.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:42:23pm

Also, put your mask OVER your damn nose! I’d say 1/3 of the people I saw at Wal-Mart the other night had their noses hanging out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:46:22pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:46:56pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:48:04pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:48:04pm

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But he won’t shut things down, oh noooo, clearly it’s the libruls’ fault for pushing all this testing. In fact, he’s going to announce he’s shutting down 3/4 of the state’s testing sites in order to eliminate this negative press.

/half… sorta… I mean, I can see it happening, I don’t expect it to, but it could

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makeitstop  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:48:32pm

re: #44 Hecuba’s daughter

Dark thoughts: saw the Trump TV ad about violence in the streets due to the “Defund the police” proposals that they claim would be implemented under Biden. My brother talked about escalating crime in New York and Chicago. And all I could think is that the police support Trump and they may deliberately sabotage crime investigations because they are unhappy with being called to account for their brutality. They may be working full time to help Trump’s re-election by slacking on the job and promoting the notion that our streets will never be safe under a Democratic administration. They want to give full rein to their fascist instincts — which Trump has enthusiastically endorsed. He likes the thought of seeing cops and the military waging war against protesters.

Hopefully the American public won’t fall for this tactic. But as I’ve said before, “Defund the Police” is a terrible slogan — anything that requires explanation is a losing message. Most voters aren’t going to be paying attention until after the “conventions”. Let’s not do or say anything that can confuse the typical voter who isn’t going to be spending time exploring the nuances of policies.

A poll came out yesterday (forgot where) that said nearly 80% understand that ‘defund the police’ does not mean what Trump is trying to make it mean. With a majority of Republicans, to boot.

I don’t even think to many Democrats are even using that phrase, TBH.

And I don’t see how slacking off on crime now proves anything about how crime will escalate in a Biden administration, though. It only shows that crime is going up now - under a Republican administration.

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nines09  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:48:59pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:49:15pm
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plansbandc  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:51:32pm

re: #44 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s the one we saw yesterday and dude and I got in a petty fight over it. I’m still pissed he believes shit that comes from the network news. And I’m still pissed he doesn’t think Biden is doing anything.

It’s dude’s birthday, so after fighting all day yesterday, we are trying to be good to each other. Think maybe the covidcloseness has finally gotten on both of our nerves.

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KGxvi  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:53:10pm

re: #50 makeitstop

A poll came out yesterday (forgot where) that said nearly 80% understand that ‘defund the police’ does not mean what Trump is trying to make it mean. With a majority of Republicans, to boot.

I don’t even think to many Democrats are even using that phrase, TBH.

And I don’t see how slacking off on crime now proves anything about how crime will escalate in a Biden administration, though. It only shows that crime is going up now - under a Republican administration.

Them “slacking off on crime” is a scare tactic. And a reminder that they are special little snowflakes that should all probably be fired since they can’t do their jobs within the scope of the law and general decency without being constantly fawned over.

But the whole idea of an investigative slow down is basically play acting the Col Jessip monologue about us needing them on that wall. It’s bullshit, of course. Because mostly what is happening what always happens, they show up, they take a report and say they’ll “investigate” it but they won’t have any actual leads, so unless it’s a murder or some such other crime that catches the attention of local or national news, it’ll get filed away until someone requests a copy of the report for their insurance.

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:54:27pm

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

“I will stand arm-in-arm with the Hispanic community to make sure every child can grow up in peace.”

“Never mind those criminals we tortured and killed at the border.”

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William Lewis  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:55:44pm

re: #41 Amory Blaine

Heads up guitar players for free $100 amp sim plugin.

Download IK Multimedia’s $100 AmpliTube Metal software for free: heavy guitar amps and effects for all

I picked it up and it’s pretty good for free.

That’s for their PC version? I have amplitube on my android phone and it is nice for traveling.

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makeitstop  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:56:51pm

Haven’t seen this posted here - new Tom Morello, with Imagine Dragons’ Dan Reynolds, Bloody Beetroots and transgender activist Shea Diamond.

Stand Up (Official Video) – Tom Morello x Shea Diamond x Dan Reynolds x The Bloody Beetroots

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 2:58:02pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:00:41pm

re: #57 makeitstop

Haven’t seen this posted here - new Tom Morello, with Imagine Dragons’ Dan Reynolds, Bloody Beetroots and transgender activist Shea Diamond.

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Video

Wow, great jam and good video.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:01:41pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:02:08pm

Also, about that Tom Morello song:

100% of artist proceeds from “Stand Up” will be donated to the following organizations: NAACP, Know Your Rights Camp, Southern Poverty Law Center, and the Marsha P. Johnson Institute. KIDinaKORNER/Interscope will additionally donate an amount equal to the artists’ record royalties derived from streams of the track for a 3-year period

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nines09  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:03:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:03:18pm

Kayleigh looks like she’s wearing a plastic colander

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:03:40pm

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

I never buy those products anyway.

“If it’s GOYA, you have to be dead!”
Nice. That CEO is good with killing off his customers.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:04:54pm

re: #38 Sir John Barron

I’ll be on the lookout so I don’t mistakenly by anything from them.

If you’re buying Latino foods, you’re probably able to pick something other than Goya, for most items.

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makeitstop  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:05:19pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kayleigh looks like she’s wearing a plastic colander

Starting to look a little drawn, as well. That job is starting to suck the life out of her.

I would have said ‘suck the soul out of her,’ but that would be assuming facts not in evidence.

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Ming5000  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:06:34pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth
Add:
The Earth is a globe
The Covid-19 vaccine will not contain a microchip

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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:09:43pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:10:15pm

re: #54 KGxvi

Them “slacking off on crime” is a scare tactic. And a reminder that they are special little snowflakes that should all probably be fired since they can’t do their jobs within the scope of the law and general decency without being constantly fawned over.

But the whole idea of an investigative slow down is basically play acting the Col Jessip monologue about us needing them on that wall. It’s bullshit, of course. Because mostly what is happening what always happens, they show up, they take a report and say they’ll “investigate” it but they won’t have any actual leads, so unless it’s a murder or some such other crime that catches the attention of local or national news, it’ll get filed away until someone requests a copy of the report for their insurance.

Speaking of “slacking off”, the police union next door to my town (Peabody, MA) actually tried to get 9/11 off as a holiday. That’s right, a day off for the anniversary of 9/11. I knew some cops think that people died for our sins on that day, but it’s also good to see it in plain sight.

The city declined to give them that day off.

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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:10:57pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:11:35pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:12:05pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:12:11pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:13:11pm
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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:14:21pm

re: #56 William Lewis

I do believe it’s the PC version.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:17:06pm

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

Damn I drink their juice like beverages. Sigh.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:18:23pm

re: #68 gocart mozart

The mask slips…

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Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:18:27pm

re: #73 gocart mozart

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“I’LL SUE!!!” screamed the self-important author who signed a letter insisting that people should not be forced to silence themselves over the hurt feelings of others.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:21:42pm

re: #74 gocart mozart

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“I don’t have a problem with drugs, I have a problem with policemen.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:29:55pm
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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:30:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:31:53pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:32:10pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kayleigh McEnema uttering the usual septic tank slime she’s noted for.

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Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:32:25pm

re: #82 jaunte

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“Economic revival”? What happened to the economy that it needs “revived,” eh?

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:33:52pm

re: #85 Targetpractice

It’s the “hanging on by fingernails” revival.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:34:19pm

re: #53 plansbandc

“And I’m still pissed he doesn’t think Biden is doing anything.”

Biden’s doing exactly as much as he can and needs to. He can’t fix the government right now. He’s staying out of Trump’s way.

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Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:34:22pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The new GTA game is pushing graphics tech way too far.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:35:32pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:37:12pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

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“It was my opponent”? Just how fucking recently does he believe the Civil War occurred?

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plansbandc  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:37:18pm

Rick Wilson’s people really are invested in getting rid of tRump and all the people who enable him.

They want to root out the rot of the R party and become viable again. Yeah, right. but anyway…

They are going to be actively campaigning against anyone who supports tRump who’s up for reelection, so I am on board with their work.

I want to be able to hate them in the, I hate your policies but OK, you aren’t actively trying to destroys the country kind of way.

I think they are pretty damn good allies right now.

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Cheechako  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:39:37pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kayleigh looks like she’s wearing a plastic colander

I thought it was peg board.

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:40:12pm

re: #91 plansbandc

They want to root out the rot of the R party and become viable again.

They need to determine what social principles they support other than the relatively unfettered accumulation of money.

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BeachDem  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:40:26pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I got that one—the header is
Hillary Clinton—she just won’t go away.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:40:40pm

re: #92 Cheechako

I thought it was peg board.

could also be a laundry basket

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makeitstop  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:41:19pm

re: #91 plansbandc

Rick Wilson’s people really are invested in getting rid of tRump and all the people who enable him.

They want to root out the rot of the R party and become viable again. Yeah, right. but anyway…

They are going to be actively campaigning against anyone who supports tRump who’s up for reelection, so I am on board with their work.

I want to be able to hate them in the, I hate your policies but OK, you aren’t actively trying to destroys the country kind of way.

I think they are pretty damn good allies right now.

That’s where I’ve been for a while.

I’ll go back to disagreeing with them once the White House has been flushed and fumigated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:43:38pm
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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:44:44pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

OMG it’s them!!

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KGxvi  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:45:41pm

re: #94 jaunte

They need to determine what social principles they support other than the relatively unfettered accumulation of money.

Wilson, when he used to do regular appearances on Ana Marie Cox’s pod, basically came out as pro-choice (he did the personally but as a matter of policy thing, which, fine, whatever) and seems to hold the religious fundies in complete and utter contempt.

I’ve always been of a mind that there’s some space for a socially liberal/fiscally not insane party. Perhaps that’s what comes out of the Lincoln Project’s work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:46:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:48:42pm

embiggen the picture

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plansbandc  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:49:31pm

re: #100 KGxvi

I really like Rick. He’s closer to my political leanings than a lot of Dems. And I say this as someone who will never give another vote to an R and regrets every vote for an R I gave in the past.

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retired cynic  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:49:40pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

wow… some people…

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William Lewis  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:49:54pm

re: #91 plansbandc

Consider it like WWII: the Lincoln Project is like the Soviet Union- doing a lot of heavy fighting and utterly necessary for the war effort but only helping us because their enemy is our enemy. They are not allies like France, Britain or even Brazil. Even before the war ended, they were working for their own anti western goals at Yalta.

As soon as Trump is out of Office they will be back to dog whistles and exploiting everyone else.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:50:34pm

re: #19 DodgerFan1988

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Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:50:46pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I talked to my attorney before I came here.”

Yes, she did. Needed to be sure the pants weren’t a crime.

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:52:18pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

He works at the Cinnabon now, but he had an active practice in Albuquerque.

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Targetpractice  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:53:08pm

re: #105 William Lewis

Consider it like WWII: the Lincoln Project is like the Soviet Union- doing a lot of heavy fighting and utterly necessary for the war effort but only helping us because their enemy is our enemy. They are not allies like France, Britain or even Brazil. Even before the war ended, they were working for their own anti western goals at Yalta.

As soon as Trump is out of Office they will be back to dog whistles and exploiting everyone else.

And much like the Soviet Union, by the time this is all over, they’ll be telling everybody that they’re really the people who brought down Trump and we owe them a great debt for their “sacrifice.” All that money that liberals are shoving into their coffers? Expect the excess to be used to attack Biden just as soon as he’s taken the oath.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:53:58pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

Yes, she did. Needed to be sure the pants weren’t a crime.

Narrator’s Voice: They were a crime

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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:54:21pm

re: #106 (((Archangel1)))

I totally see those two whacking it in my shed.

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KGxvi  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:56:39pm

re: #103 plansbandc

I really like Rick. He’s closer to my political leanings than a lot of Dems. And I say this as someone who will never give another vote to an R and regrets every vote for an R I gave in the past.

He’s very entertaining, really enjoy his podcast with Molly Jong-Fast. And yeah, he’s probably closer to my leanings than a lot of Dems as well. I am, if I haven’t made clear enough here, very anti-populist as rule. And while I regret a few of my past R votes, I don’t regret them all (Arnold wasn’t a terrible governor, and then there was…. um, hmmm, hang on… lemme get back to you on that one)

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 3:57:11pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:00:13pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Narrator’s Voice: They were a crime

Wanna know who I’m really nice to? People who are going to stick really sharp implements inside my face for a half hour.

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calochortus  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:01:18pm

re: #114 Decatur Deb

Wanna know who I’m really nice to? People who are going to stick really sharp implements inside my face for a half hour.

Don’t worry. I imagine she’s not going to see anyone from that particular office again.

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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:03:11pm
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KGxvi  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:03:46pm

Because I am a strange person like this, I decided to look up the 2022 Senate election in California. Harris (or her replacement) will be up. There is a woman from the GOP that has already declared for the race… who is also challenging for a House seat this year. That’s a pretty bold move, declaring for a second race before you’ve even finished a first.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:04:17pm

re: #114 Decatur Deb

Wanna know who I’m really nice to? People who are going to stick really sharp implements inside my face for a half hour.

I’ve been to the dentist three times in June. Have to call from the parking lot so someone will unlock the door. Temperature taken. Hand sanitizer applied. Gloved up. Have to wear a mask until I’m in the chair.

Yeah, I’m not gonna piss off these people by being bitchy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:08:48pm

re: #107 Decatur Deb

Yes, she did. Needed to be sure the pants weren’t a crime.

I like how she says it’s a Dentists office and not a medical office. Like, do you realize what the first D in DDS stands for?

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Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:08:54pm

re: #118 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spirit animal of the dental hygienists:

Bird Cleans Giraffe’s Teeth Like a Tiny Dentist

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:12:30pm
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KGxvi  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:16:01pm

re: #119 Eclectic Cyborg

I like how she says it’s a Dentists office and not a medical office. Like, do you realize what the first D in DDS stands for?

Demented?
Devil?
Diabolical?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:20:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:26:45pm
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austin_blue  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:29:27pm

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

I never buy those products anyway.

Their lines of canned beans and fruit juices are excellent and cheap.

Goya peddles good products.

Sad to see him standing next to tRump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:32:32pm
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mmmirele  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:34:56pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

It took people like my friend Amy Smith raising hell about COVID-19 at Kamp Kanakuk to get ONE of the camps shut down. (Amy normally goes after churches that cover up child sexual abuse, but this was egregious.)

Five days ago, Kanakuk planned on reopening for K-2nd grade K2 camp (a type of camp, my bad) and was going to have employees and volunteers sign waivers. Un-fucking-believable.

As of a few hours ago, other camps at Kanakuk were still open, per Amy.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:35:46pm
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plansbandc  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:35:56pm

Another thing about Rick. He’s for basic income. I was shocked, but he is smart enough to see how basic income is such an economically viable thing to do.

A R that is for basic income. SMDH

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:39:23pm

ummm….obviously many Kentuckians can NOT be trusted to make that decision, which is why there was an executive order mandating masks.

Also, I don’t get where the judge gets off barring all future executive orders

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A Mom Anon  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:40:44pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

I truly wonder how many kids are going to be kept home once school is supposed to be back in session. I cannot imagine being in the position of work so I don’t get evicted and lose everything or send my kid into a surefire shitshow. Especially K-5, where social and physical interaction are normal for social development. Younger kids are also adorable germ farms, and it’s impossible for one teacher to monitor a class of 30 kids every minute, especially in restrooms and cafeterias.

Americans have already proven they won’t do the right thing when people are watching. Imagine what’s going to happen when no one is. And I’m not even talking about teachers and other school personnel. All the fucking asshats who make a scene about the their freedumb are going to be screaming at teachers and office staff if their babies have their rights violated by wearing a mask. I would not be surprised if guns get pulled on people.

I think most parents in this situation are going to do the best they can, but it only takes a few assholes to create a disaster. This is not going to go well. Fuck.

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mmmirele  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:43:13pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:46:04pm

re: #120 Decatur Deb

Spirit animal of the dental hygienists:

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In just the last two weeks of walking the dog at the local shut-down uni campus, when we find sprinklers I’ve taught my skittish dog to put her mouth on the automatic sprinklers for a drink; and today to just walk in front of the sprinkler to cool off. But she puts her mouth over the sprinkler not just for the drink but for the sensation. I have a feeling she’s getting a water-pic treatment each time.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:49:27pm

re: #132 mmmirele

Genesis church has been selling that bleach scam to parents and family of kids with autism for awhile too. It pisses me off. How the hell did religious freedom become the right to physically harm anyone? That shit eats the lining of the intestines to the point it’s expelled in bowel movements. This is then touted to be “worms” that caused the autism. I can’t imagine the lasting physical agony this causes.

Humans are awful. Well enough of them to fuck up everything for everyone else. And it’s all tax free! Yay!

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plansbandc  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:52:13pm

re: #134 A Mom Anon

I want the meteor to come. The earth can do better.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:52:50pm

re: #117 KGxvi

Because I am a strange person like this, I decided to look up the 2022 Senate election in California. Harris (or her replacement) will be up. There is a woman from the GOP that has already declared for the race… who is also challenging for a House seat this year. That’s a pretty bold move, declaring for a second race before you’ve even finished a first.

The California GOP has withered like a Fresno raisin. They are dead at the statewide level thanks to racist Pete Wilson and Red Ink Ah-Nold.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:54:23pm

re: #135 plansbandc

There should be a special place under the prison for these people. Anti vaccine assholes too. Most of that is based on an irrational fear of having an autistic child these days. It pisses me off.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:55:29pm

re: #19 DodgerFan1988

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austin_blue  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:56:27pm

re: #134 A Mom Anon

Genesis church has been selling that bleach scam to parents and family of kids with autism for awhile too. It pisses me off. How the hell did religious freedom become the right to physically harm anyone? That shit eats the lining of the intestines to the point it’s expelled in bowel movements. This is then touted to be “worms” that caused the autism. I can’t imagine the lasting physical agony this causes.

Humans are awful. Well enough of them to fuck up everything for everyone else. And it’s all tax free! Yay!

“There’s a sucker born every minute, and two to take him”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:57:41pm
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BeachDem  Jul 9, 2020 • 4:59:34pm

re: #126 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This from that thread made me smile

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:00:10pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:01:10pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That ruling today gives me hope - that even someone as twisted and bent as a Trump appointee can, when given the weight of the mantle of the Supreme Court of the United States, on occasion do the right thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:02:40pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:05:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:06:49pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:06:50pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s also not how HIPAA works.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:08:27pm

WTAF

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mmmirele  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:08:49pm

re: #138 Eventual Carrion

Am I the only person here who will stand up for Beavis and Butt-head? They are stupid and do dumb things, but they aren’t congressmen! /half for realsies, half for laughs

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Dave In Austin  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:09:22pm

re: #149 mmmirele

FIRE FIRE FIRE!!!!!

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:10:20pm

Tucker’s working on abolishing absurdity.

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Jack Burton  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:11:17pm

re: #149 mmmirele

Am I the only person here who will stand up for Beavis and Butt-head? They are stupid and do dumb things, but they aren’t congressmen! /half for realsies, half for laughs

They also don’t like stuff that sucks.

/

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William Lewis  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:12:03pm

re: #129 plansbandc

Another thing about Rick. He’s for basic income. I was shocked, but he is smart enough to see how basic income is such an economically viable thing to do.

A R that is for basic income. SMDH

Nixon was too though they called it “negative income tax “.

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EPR-radar  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:12:13pm

re: #143 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That ruling today gives me hope - that even someone as twisted and bent as a Trump appointee can, when given the weight of the mantle of the Supreme Court of the United States, on occasion do the right thing.

I just took a look at the SCOTUS opinion in the Oklahoma case, and it was shocking — Gorsuch wrote the 5-4 opinion as an honest exercise in textual analysis (i.e., the Creek reservation still exists because Congress never explicitly did away with it and only Congress has the power to tear up treaties with native Americans).

This upends a considerable amount of OK history, including the stories I learned in grade school that the ending of those reservations was part of OK becoming a state.

The best part of that was Roberts’ dissent, where his irritation at the apostasy by Gorsuch drips from every page.

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Jack Burton  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:14:00pm

re: #151 jaunte

By doing what? Encouraging OMG BROWN PEOPLE!!11111111!11ty to move there too?

Or is this more taking 23 far leftist wannabes out of coffee shops in LA and Berkeley and asking them what their dream world would be like and presenting that as if it’s democrat policy?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:14:08pm

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

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NetworkKed  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:14:14pm

Another 60k day. That was pretty much expected.

What I’m not liking is that deaths are definitely a solid bump up this week over the previous week’s pattern. Tues/Wed I figured could just be catch-up reporting from the holiday weekend, but today’s is over 900, and that puts us back to where things were at the end of May.

There’s been a lot of chatter about the lag between cases reported and deaths reported. Back at the beginning of all this, there was some thought that you’d have a week lag, which turned into conventional wisdom that it’s a two-week lag. Lately I’ve been hearing relatively serious people saying that it’s three, or four, or six (!?!) week lag between cases and deaths.

Let’s hope that it’s not four+. At two weeks lag, the current case rate would (in a very simple analysis) sustain about 1100 deaths a day. At three weeks lag it would be 1500ish, and at 4 or more it’s likely to be touching 2k.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:15:32pm
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NetworkKed  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:16:12pm

Is it just me, or has Tucker started emulating the Orange One’s spray-on tan?

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:17:23pm

re: #155 Jack Burton

From Stanley Kurtz at NRO:

“…Biden now plans to use Cory Booker’s strategy for attacking suburban zoning. AFFH works by holding HUD’s Community Development Block Grants hostage to federal-planning demands. Suburbs won’t be able to get the millions of dollars they’re used to in HUD grants unless they eliminate single-family zoning and densify their business districts. AFFH also forces HUD-grant recipients to sign pledges to “affirmatively further fair housing.” Those pledges could get suburbs sued by civil-rights groups, or by the feds, if they don’t get rid of single-family zoning. The only defense suburbs have against this two-pronged attack is to refuse HUD grants. True, that will effectively redistribute huge amounts of suburban money to cities, but if they give up their HUD grants at least the suburbs will be free of federal control.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:18:03pm

re: #157 NetworkKed

Another 60k day. That was pretty much expected.

What I’m not liking is that deaths are definitely a solid bump up this week over the previous week’s pattern. Tues/Wed I figured could just be catch-up reporting from the holiday weekend, but today’s is over 900, and that puts us back to where things were at the end of May.

There’s been a lot of chatter about the lag between cases reported and deaths reported. Back at the beginning of all this, there was some thought that you’d have a week lag, which turned into conventional wisdom that it’s a two-week lag. Lately I’ve been hearing relatively serious people saying that it’s three, or four, or six (!?!) week lag between cases and deaths.

Let’s hope that it’s not four+. At two weeks lag, the current case rate would (in a very simple analysis) sustain about 1100 deaths a day. At three weeks lag it would be 1500ish, and at 4 or more it’s likely to be touching 2k.

Well, let’s see. It’s 10-14 days from exposure to the onset of symptoms, according to what people have been saying. It’s also been said that people on respirators can survive for weeks before dying, which would easily put the lag into the 4- or 5-week range.

Holy crap, lag of 4-5 weeks? I’d be looking for a new Internet Service Provider in a heartbeat.

/I’ll show myself out
//Try the veal

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EPR-radar  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:18:22pm

re: #159 NetworkKed

Is it just me, or has Tucker started emulating the Orange One’s spray-on tan?

Fucker Carlson’s tan doesn’t look like it came out of a spray bottle. Since he does no work, I’m sure he has plenty of time for tanning beds or the like.

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:18:22pm

You mean suburbs can’t dump all the problems into cities and hoard the money their commuters pull out?

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EPR-radar  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:20:06pm

re: #163 jaunte

You mean suburbs can’t dump all the problems into cities and hoard the money their commuters pull out?

Solid point, but there are real issues to deal with there. E.g., housing in CA is a very complicated mess.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:21:12pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:21:25pm

re: #44 Hecuba’s daughter

Dark thoughts: saw the Trump TV ad about violence in the streets due to the “Defund the police” proposals that they claim would be implemented under Biden. My brother talked about escalating crime in New York and Chicago. And all I could think is that the police support Trump and they may deliberately sabotage crime investigations because they are unhappy with being called to account for their brutality. They may be working full time to help Trump’s re-election by slacking on the job and promoting the notion that our streets will never be safe under a Democratic administration. They want to give full rein to their fascist instincts — which Trump has enthusiastically endorsed. He likes the thought of seeing cops and the military waging war against protesters.

Hopefully the American public won’t fall for this tactic. But as I’ve said before, “Defund the Police” is a terrible slogan — anything that requires explanation is a losing message. Most voters aren’t going to be paying attention until after the “conventions”. Let’s not do or say anything that can confuse the typical voter who isn’t going to be spending time exploring the nuances of policies.

I heard a report yesterday, I think, likely on NPR — in which a poll was taken and 80% (or something like that) of the American public knew the slogan meant “restructure” not “eliminate.” And the other 20% are probably lost forever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:22:19pm

re: #165 goddamnedfrank

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wonder how much PPP money Goya Foods got

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:22:23pm

re: #163 jaunte

You mean suburbs can’t dump all the problems into cities and hoard the money their commuters pull out?

You have mostly described Rockwall. Yeah, we have a technology park that has a few companies with a few hundred employees each, and a few smaller businesses, but most of our city’s income is property and retail taxes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:22:54pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:23:18pm

re: #45 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, put your mask OVER your damn nose! I’d say 1/3 of the people I saw at Wal-Mart the other night had their noses hanging out.

I agree. However, everything I’ve seen says you get the disease mainly through your nose and transmit it through your mouth, so they’re increasing their own risk more than others’.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:23:29pm

re: #168 Belafon

You have mostly described Rockwall. Yeah, we have a technology park that has a few companies with a few hundred employees each, and a few smaller businesses, but most of our city’s income is property and retail taxes.

Me, I live in a college town. We have two bars (it was 3, but one burned down a few years ago), two liquor stores, and two churches. I have a feeling most of the town income comes from the meat market and the two gas stations straddling the highway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:24:42pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:26:15pm
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EPR-radar  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:29:26pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

These fucking Republican wreckers just have to fuck up everything in reach.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:29:52pm
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sagehen  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:31:12pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I went to the dentist a few days ago, an appointment reschuled from March when everything shut down.

Instead of the waiting room, patients have to stand out on the sidewalk until they’re ready for me to come in. A questionnaire over the phone the day before,and again when I came in, and they took my temperature. The dentist and hygienist wore mask and plastic face shield, and they had to use hand tools for stuff that’s usually a machine (so as to prevent spray).

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Jack Burton  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:31:52pm

re: #164 EPR-radar

Solid point, but there are real issues to deal with there. E.g., housing in CA is a very complicated mess.

And I was kind of hoping the myopic thinking of some on the left trying to fix a laundry list of problems by stopping actual houses from being built in favor of cramming everyone into high density apartments and condos would have been finally shit-canned in the pile of good intended but still horrible ideas.

COVID-19 should have done this if nothing else, not to mention the obvious problem that at some point only rich people and corporations will own homes and the rest of us will be stuck paying other peoples mortgages via rent with no ROI (beyond someone else’s roof over our head) until we die, and with Social Security and retirement funding dwindling this is a big problem.

I think some outside the box thinking is required on this. Not a 50 year old left-wing wish list meant to fix racism and the environment without thought of unintended consequences.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:34:21pm
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Cheechako  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:34:49pm

Effective? Probably most of the time.
Functional? Hell yes.
Would I wear one? Depends on how thirsty I am.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:36:33pm

One thing about Gorsuch I like is that he is from the West. I don’t agree with much of his POV, but after years of east coast Yale Harvard types dominating the Supreme Court nominations of Bush Obama and Trump I think it’s important to have justices from other regions, and law schools.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:38:26pm

re: #179 Cheechako

Considering how a cloth mask is supposed to function, that one appears to be both pretty effective and very functional. 0/10 would not be caught in public wearing one, however.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:39:11pm

re: #166 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I heard a report yesterday, I think, likely on NPR — in which a poll was taken and 80% (or something like that) of the American public knew the slogan meant “restructure” not “eliminate.” And the other 20% are probably lost forever.

They aren’t lost forever — they live on the surface when it comes to news. “Restructure the police” — they would understand. Don’t use a slogan that desperately needs a translation from the literal words.

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stpaulbear  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:39:38pm

I got a text from my youngest sister today telling me that my oldest sister recently talked with my middle sister. Youngest sister was telling me not to talk to middle sister because she’d gone into the full “masks are a plot, the virus is a conspiracy!!1!1!” mode while talking to oldest sister. I’m going to call oldest sister tomorrow to find out how bad their conversation was. Fortunately, middle sister is the only one of my siblings who’s gone full tilt FOX NEWS batshit stupid. She’s also the only one who tells me how I need to bring God into my life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:39:41pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:42:21pm

re: #183 stpaulbear

I got a text from my youngest sister today telling me that my oldest sister recently talked with my middle sister. Youngest sister was telling me not to talk to middle sister because she’d gone into the full “masks are a plot, the virus is a conspiracy!!1!1!” mode while talking to oldest sister. I’m going to call oldest sister tomorrow to find out how bad their conversation was. Fortunately, middle sister is the only one of my siblings who’s gone full tilt FOX NEWS batshit stupid. She’s also the only one who tells me how I need to bring God into my life.

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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:45:09pm

This thread by this self described Jewish Nationalist is a piece of work

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:45:27pm
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dnlS  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:46:03pm

Another day of 60k+. I hope that the July 4th clusters plus the cluster and cluster following that they spawn aren’t too bad.

Done, baked in an extra ~50k deaths, and a polio like complications of our time for who knows how many because we can’t get our shit together. I hate FB. Our celebration of ignorance (we more than KNOW better by now) has come home to roost.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:46:16pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m ok with destroying the principle of American racism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:47:18pm
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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:47:31pm

Loeffler says “principles” but she means “fantasies.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:48:34pm
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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:51:52pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:52:29pm

re: #152 Jack Burton

They also don’t like stuff that sucks.

/

They’re the inheritors of Walter Lantz and his famous woodpecker’s laugh.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:53:10pm

re: #185 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:54:24pm
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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:54:33pm

re: #182 Hecuba’s daughter

They aren’t lost forever — they live on the surface when it comes to news. “Restructure the police” — they would understand. Don’t use a slogan that desperately needs a translation from the literal words.

That 20% is DT’s rock-bottom base. I say they’re lost forever, or close enough that the effort needed to bring them to their senses would simply be too great.

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Jack Burton  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:55:30pm

re: #192 Patricia Kayden

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The fact that they have to do something like this 155 years after the civil war is over is ridiculous in itself.

This is a subject that should have been decided and dealt with early spring in 1861.

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:55:51pm

re: #153 William Lewis

Nixon was too though they called it “negative income tax “.

It would eliminate any need for unemployment, disability, food stamps, minimum wage. Entire agencies would be unnecessary, and the staff could be reassigned.

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:57:00pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:57:19pm

re: #195 A Mom Anon

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:58:23pm

re: #192 Patricia Kayden

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“Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.”

By the wording of the constitution, yes they were treasonous.

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Jack Burton  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:59:00pm

re: #182 Hecuba’s daughter

They aren’t lost forever — they live on the surface when it comes to news. “Restructure the police” — they would understand. Don’t use a slogan that desperately needs a translation from the literal words.

“Defund” is way worse to use than “Restructure” in this case. Neither of these are good examples though and neither are what should be used.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 5:59:03pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:00:08pm

re: #198 Jack Burton

The fact that they have to do something like this 155 years after the civil war is over is ridiculous in itself.

This is a subject that should have been decided and dealt with early spring in 1861.

The North won the first Civil War. The second one was won by the KKK during and after Reconstruction. We’re just finally starting to fix that, and Trump deserves some credit through his actions as a racist.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:00:59pm

hi

The weather radio blaring a severe thunderstorm warning woke me up from my nap.

wunderground.com

At 657 PM MDT, a severe thunderstorm was located near Dalton, or 24
miles north of Sidney, moving northeast at 30 mph.

HAZARD…Golf ball size hail and 60 mph wind gusts.

SOURCE…Radar indicated.

IMPACT…People and animals outdoors will be injured. Expect hail
damage to roofs, siding, windows, and vehicles. Expect wind
damage to roofs, siding, and trees.

Locations impacted include…
Dalton, The Intersection Of Highway 385 And 92 and Broadwater.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:03:08pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Howard Dean, fresh outta fucks to give.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:03:30pm

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

hi

The weather radio blaring a severe thunderstorm warning woke me up from my nap.

wunderground.com

Stay safe, scaly friend. I, at least, have the excuse of trees to deflect incoming tornadoes. On the blustery prairie, not so much.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:04:23pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

OK, I’ll play along, Kelly. What ‘principles’?

White supremacy? That ‘principle’?

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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:04:38pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:05:51pm
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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:06:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:10:47pm
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William Lewis  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:10:48pm

re: #199 sagehen

It would eliminate any need for unemployment, disability, food stamps, minimum wage. Entire agencies would be unnecessary, and the staff could be reassigned.

You could probably start as high as $20,000 for a single individual if you stopped having to pay all the other programs. Additional for a spouse and kids (I would prefer a limit of 2 kids but the religious nutbars would shriek) .

File a tax return showing what you did make and get a “refund ” in the amount you are short of the cutoff. Choose one, quarterly or monthly payments.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:12:07pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hotdish.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:12:34pm
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William Lewis  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:12:38pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Colby cheese.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:13:30pm

Trump is hovering overhead. The sky turned orange here.

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:13:34pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pizza. Thin crust.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:14:13pm
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Decatur Deb  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:14:28pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Only using a food tell us where you live

Fried Green Tomatoes

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:14:29pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:14:34pm

re: #215 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mean, I guess I could’ve also said “lutefisk”, but I’m gonna be blunt with you, I don’t think I know anyone personally who actually eats that shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:16:01pm

re: #223 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mean, I guess I could’ve also said “lutefisk”, but I’m gonna be blunt with you, I don’t think I know anyone personally who actually eats that shit.

I was gonna say “at least it’s not lutefisk…”

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William Lewis  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:16:37pm

re: #223 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mean, I guess I could’ve also said “lutefisk”, but I’m gonna be blunt with you, I don’t think I know anyone personally who actually eats that shit.

I thought of bratwurst but wanted something less obvious.

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:17:08pm

TexMex got so popular that fajitas don’t narrow location down any more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:17:09pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:17:10pm

re: #225 William Lewis

I thought of bratwurst but wanted something less obvious.

Yeah, that’s the problem on this side of the St. Croix, all of our signature foods are way too obvious.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:18:14pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump has been so unfairly treated, spying, hoax harassment, just terrible and he’s so great done so much..

/////

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:19:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:19:45pm

MrBWS would agree with Ben Tobin about Ale8.
I’d have to say hot kraut (even though I despise it)
(Kentucky Hot Brown is too obvious)

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:20:14pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope he was able to sabotage something on the way out but alas I hope for too much I guess.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:20:48pm

It’s starting to hail. Need earplugs.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:21:27pm

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s starting to hail. Need earplugs.

My parents have a steel roof. A couple of visits ago, there was a hailstorm. Yeeeeah.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:21:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:21:51pm

Trump golfing around here?

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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:22:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:23:23pm

niterz, lizardz!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:24:54pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

How does she know that it’s safe everywhere for all schools to open in every state in every district? How does she know that? By what metric is she making this demand?

And what happened to the great conservative principle of states and localities being the best at deciding what its citizens need? I thought conservatives hated ‘one size fits all’ solutions?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:25:27pm

re: #212 jaunte

[Embedded content]

That is really hilarious!

“Man cave?” I turn to my fellow Social Justice Warriors and we grin like maniacs, high as hell on weed. “More like man GRAVE.”

I blow the detonator and the skies run red with Dad.

“I brought the salsa to the neighborhood potluck,” I howl.

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:27:14pm

re: #240 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“I throw her a grenade made of 80% recycled material.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:28:11pm

We survived the hail. The storm is starting to weaken. The middle is about two miles west.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:31:00pm

re: #240 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That is really hilarious!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:33:19pm

re: #239 Sir John Barron

How does she know that it’s safe everywhere for all schools to open in every state in every district? How does she know that? By what metric is she making this demand?

And what happened to the great conservative principle of states and localities being the best at deciding what its citizens need? I thought conservatives hated ‘one size fits all’ solutions?

Here in Conservatopia, only one school district is opening. That’s it. She not only doesn’t understand how anything but a pyramid scheme works, she doesn’t even understand what conservative parents want.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:33:49pm

re: #237 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

That’s it, we’ve been exposed. I was hoping to sneak this by the wise Faux electorate but we’ve failed. All hope is lost.

///

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:34:28pm

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Here in Conservatopia, only one school district is opening. That’s it. She not only doesn’t understand how anything but a pyramid scheme works, she doesn’t even understand what conservative parents want.

There is no god only Trump.

/

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:36:54pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:38:13pm

re: #247 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

What part of The Stand are we in now?

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A Mom Anon  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:39:32pm

re: #247 Patricia Kayden

This is going to be a story all across the country before the end of August, maybe sooner. What happens then?

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:39:35pm
251
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:43:06pm

re: #247 Patricia Kayden

And it’s hurricane season in all the denialist states now.

Refrigerated morgue-trucks, overwhelmed by a powerful storm, people packed into shelters, loss of electricity.

This must be God’s punishment for Teh Geyhs or something.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:43:24pm

re: #249 A Mom Anon

This is going to be a story all across the country before the end of August, maybe sooner. What happens then?

We open all the schools everywhere, of course.

//

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:46:04pm

nhc.noaa.gov
Tropical Storm Fay has formed off the coast of North Carolina. A Tropical Storm Warning extends from Delaware Bay north to the Connecticut/Rhode Island state line, including Philadelphia and New York.

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sagehen  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:47:19pm

re: #248 Sir John Barron

What part of The Stand are we in now?

I had a dream last night, about an old black lady on her porch swing…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:47:49pm

re: #250 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Along the same line:
Texas GOP sues Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner over canceled in-person convention

The lawsuit, filed Thursday in Harris County, argues that the gathering is protected under both the Texas and U.S. Constitutions and should be allowed to continue as planned.

“Mayor Turner may not treat the [Republican Party of Texas] convention differently from that of the recent public protests that the Mayor supported,” reads the petition, which also lists Houston First and the city of Houston as defendants. “Political viewpoint cannot be the basis for unequal treatment.”

Look on the brightside: Maybe enough of these lemmings will die before the election to turn Texas blue. The potential for a massive fallout event is certainly there. The infected delegates will spread out to literally every corner of the state, back to places where most of them are prominent citizens. They will then have endless opportunities to spread the virus at their proudly maskless bars, churches, shooting ranges, franchise steak houses, MLM rallies, and indoor campaign events.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:48:04pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lumpia

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:48:49pm
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TarHellion  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:49:25pm

FFVCS drops to 40.1 percent approval rating in 538 aggregate. This is its lowest level since February 7, 2019 and puts it in GHWB and Carter territory. Remind you that GWB dipped down to 43.8 in mid-August 2004 before rallying back to win re-election.

But we are getting very close to a point of no return for the Orange Anus. I have read where its advisors are terrified of it dropping below 40. Please let this happen and continue to sink.

For comparison at this stage in the presidency:

FFVCS 40.1
Obama 47.1
GWB 46.7
Clinton 53.8
GHWB 36.7
Reagan 53.7
Carter 31.7
Nixon 57.5
Eisenhower 73.1

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:49:28pm

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Mayor Turner may not treat the [Republican Party of Texas] convention differently from that of the recent public protests that the Mayor supported.”

Then they can have their convention standing outside City Hall around the reflecting pool.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:49:45pm

re: #255 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I can go with equal treatment under the law.

“Mayor Turner may not treat the [Republican Party of Texas] convention differently from that of the recent public protests that the Mayor supported,” reads the petition, which also lists Houston First and the city of Houston as defendants. “Political viewpoint cannot be the basis for unequal treatment.”

Hold the convention as a protest march in the streets.

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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:54:52pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 6:58:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:00:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:02:30pm

...

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:02:58pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:05:07pm

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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:05:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:06:36pm

re: #266 Patricia Kayden

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Belafon  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:09:11pm

re: #220 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

Further proving Republicans shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:09:35pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:10:03pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

“The Jackass movie franchise has sort of dried up, so my client is now available for anything requiring a big, thick brickhead.”

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:12:14pm

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gocart mozart  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:12:42pm
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Belafon  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:14:10pm

re: #235 Patricia Kayden

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:15:13pm

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A Mom Anon  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:17:15pm

re: #275 Patricia Kayden

Land sharks. Just great….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:21:32pm

Steeply climbing, as Scottsbluff moves forward to open its schools and is ignoring parents and business.

The Scott’s Bluff County Fair will continue as scheduled (July 25-Aug 1)

pphd.org

Deaths: 5 (+1), all in Scott’s Bluff County
Total cases: 345 (+4), 83 active
Most by age: 20-29, then 40-49, then 10-19
Available hospital beds: 52%

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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:22:12pm

re: #254 sagehen

C O V I D spells moon!

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Amory Blaine  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:22:57pm

Also I’m sure Matt Gaetz would be wearing a Winger shirt.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:23:53pm
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jaunte  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:31:54pm
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William Lewis  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:35:07pm

re: #275 Patricia Kayden

That one’s good but I still like this best of all the 2020 memes…

Probably Murder Hornets too!
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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:37:13pm

re: #276 A Mom Anon

Land sharks. Just great….

“Piiiiiizza delivery.”
” Caaaaaaaaandygram. “

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:39:09pm

re: #284 A Three Hour Tour

“Piiiiiizza delivery.”
” Caaaaaaaaandygram. “

And, like that, I’m a Dead Thread Hero.
Again.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:42:44pm

re: #87 Belafon

“And I’m still pissed he doesn’t think Biden is doing anything.”

Biden’s doing exactly as much as he can and needs to. He can’t fix the government right now. He’s staying out of Trump’s way.

..while trump shoots himself in the foot nearly every day

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 9, 2020 • 7:58:32pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Cubano and cafecito

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 9, 2020 • 8:26:27pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Lexington

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Nojay UK  Jul 10, 2020 • 1:47:00am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Deep-fried Mars bars.


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