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🌹UOJB!  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:31:00am

GO JOE GO

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:31:31am

GOTV!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:36:02am

That behavior fits a pattern in Trump’s presidency in which the president seemingly has no interest in or patience for what he considers **the boring work of governing**, several of his former senior advisers say, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

(Wapo)

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:36:04am

The right wing troglodytes were ripping on Biden before he came out with a plan, claiming that this would destroy the economy, cause millions to lose jobs, etc.

The projecting like IMAX is strong with the GOP. It’s all they ever do.

Biden’s proposals are forward looking and would reorient energy production to renewables and shift away from fossil fuels.

The same coal miners out of work due to coal being a dying industry aren’t being told by Trump to #TrySomethingNew. The mine owners are seeing regs lifted so they can profit more and shift burdens to the workers who see worse working conditions or air quality.

Biden’s proposals are doable, but energy companies need to adjust or find themselves obsolete. The GOP has tied itself to these same energy companies, so they’ll fight tooth and nail to protect the billions in tax breaks that go their way every year from both feds and state governments.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:36:07am

COAL HATER!!! YOU CAN COUNT OUT WINNING WEST VIRGINIA NOW JOE!!!

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:36:24am

Meanwhile, Maxwell’s trial date has been set and yeah, it’s more than a year away. This is the opposite of the swift administration of justice. It’s justice delayed (going all the way back to when Acosta gave Epstein a sweetheart deal despite all the evidence pointing to a massive child sex trafficking operation, child rape, and other heinous acts):

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Mike Lamb  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:38:24am

re: #4 lawhawk

The right wing troglodytes were ripping on Biden before he came out with a plan, claiming that this would destroy the economy, cause millions to lose jobs, etc.

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The projecting like IMAX is strong with the GOP. It’s all they ever do.

Biden’s proposals are forward looking and would reorient energy production to renewables and shift away from fossil fuels.

The same coal miners out of work due to coal being a dying industry aren’t being told by Trump to #TrySomethingNew. The mine owners are seeing regs lifted so they can profit more and shift burdens to the workers who see worse working conditions or air quality.

Biden’s proposals are doable, but energy companies need to adjust or find themselves obsolete. The GOP has tied itself to these same energy companies, so they’ll fight tooth and nail to protect the billions in tax breaks that go their way every year from both feds and state governments.

10MM lost? That’s only 20MM less than Trump has vaporized (and that’s a fairly rosy number based on current COVID trends).

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:38:38am

re: #6 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Maxwell’s trial date has been set:

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Almost a year from today? She’ll never make it…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:41:07am
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:42:44am

re: #7 Mike Lamb

Correctamundo.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:43:21am

re: #6 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Maxwell’s trial date has been set:

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That’s a lot of time to keep moving to avoid assassination.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:48:02am

re: #8 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Almost a year from today? She’ll never make it…

re: #8 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Almost a year from today? She’ll never make it…

That was my thought. There’s going to be ample opportunity for people who want her gone to get to her.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:48:20am
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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:48:44am

re: #11 Eventual Carrion

That’s a lot of time to keep moving to avoid assassination.

The people keeping her safe have to succeed every day. The assassins only have to succeed once.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:52:22am

Cry me a river.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:53:54am
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:54:53am

re: #16 teleskiguy

Where he’ll spew some nonsense, take no questions, and the media will claim this was the day he acted presidential. Just you wait…. just you wait…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:57:16am

re: #16 teleskiguy

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Well, this is going to suck.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 10:59:09am

Also, OT. Personal stuff:

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:00:56am

Steve wants more……

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:01:51am

re: #15 teleskiguy

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:02:52am

re: #4 lawhawk

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:03:24am

Joe’s on

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:05:41am

Speaking of Coal, I will never not love The Suck My Balls, Bob! Dancers

Last Week Tonight: Eat Shit, Bob: The Musical

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:06:11am

re: #23 Dave In Austin

Joe’s on

Everybody quiet.
Shh
Shhhhh
Quiet
Shhhh
You shush
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:06:19am

re: #11 Eventual Carrion

She’s going to need a lot of aluminum foil to wrap her cellphone to avoid being found for the next year.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:09:14am

The parrot just stole the butt of my hot dog……..

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:10:42am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:10:58am

re: #22 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Steve
Should we be making buggy whips and landline phones?
What about VCRs?
Tubes for TV’s
Asshat

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:11:18am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:12:10am

re: #27 Dave In Austin

The parrot just stole the butt of my hot dog……..

I have to clean the caterpillar poop out of the paper scanner

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:12:35am

re: #30 Patricia Kayden

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The plan is to try to save Trump’s election.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:16:15am

Asshole slamming Joe coughing during his speech claiming that proves he’s sick…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:16:33am

What happens if most of the school districts around the country tell DeVos to fuck off? They all lose their funding?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:17:19am

re: #29 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

At least landline phones can carry digital traffic - albeit not as good as cable or fiber.

Guest can go fuck hemself.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:17:30am

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

What happens if most of the school districts around the country tell DeVos to fuck off? They all lose their funding?

Exec branch doesn’t control most of that money so not much

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:21:10am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:26:05am

That was a good speech.

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:26:51am

Heard him say Come Back Stronger in the speech.

Sounds like a better slogan than Build Back Better to me. Just saying.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:27:50am

re: #15 teleskiguy

Cry me a river.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:28:13am

re: #15 teleskiguy

How long before Bill Maher has her on as a guest for the 10th time or whatever? She’s awful.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:31:12am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:31:25am

They’re digging deeper and deeper while blindfolded

(Nyt)
With coronavirus cases surging in Florida, Republicans are planning to move the three nights of their national convention taking place in the state from an indoor arena to an outdoor venue in Jacksonville… It’s still unclear how many people will be allowed to attend the events

You wanna play August in Florida, what could possibly go wrong?
So many people already have and are way ahead…

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:33:13am

re: #42 The Pie Overlord!

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18m+ out of work
Many businesses, jobs and functions have been shutdown or closed
There aren’t 18m+ jobs out there

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:33:56am
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:34:33am

re: #41 A Mom Anon

How long before Bill Maher has her on as a guest for the 10th time or whatever? She’s awful.

I’m sure he’s booked her already and he’ll let her whine her racist ass to her heart’s content!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:34:59am

re: #43 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

They’re digging deeper and deeper while blindfolded

(Nyt)
With coronavirus cases surging in Florida, Republicans are planning to move the three nights of their national convention taking place in the state from an indoor arena to an outdoor venue in Jacksonville… It’s still unclear how many people will be allowed to attend the events

You wanna play August in Florida, what could possibly go wrong?
So many people already have and are way ahead…

I’ve thought from the beginning the GOP convention will be a “near Fyre Fest” level shitshow. i still think that.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:35:45am

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

Forcing the schools to reopen in these conditions is just such an obvious nuclear bomb to the fabric of our society that it’s difficult to conclude it isn’t intentional.

They know they’re going to lose no matter what so they’re burning it all down.

Family destroyer behavior

The GOP has decided to go full Götterdämmerung.

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piratedan  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:36:16am

re: #40 DodgerFan1988

based on this post, the FNYT would be better off to hire Ms. McElrath

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:37:33am

re: #31 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

I have to clean the caterpillar poop out of the paper scanner

We brought a milkweed plant into the house
Put it on a shelf with the leaves overhanging the scanner
There were monarch caterpillars on the plant
They poop a lot
You can figure the rest

I also had to rescue one actual caterpillar that fell into the doc feeder
That coulda been messy and tragic

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A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:38:11am

re: #43 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

JFC. The humidity alone can damn near literally melt you. SO a virus that travels on moisture micro particles combined with humidity and no masks. THEN you add in that a a few of these super geniuses will put up swamp cooler type fans (they had them outside in Tulsa, where the people were camping out) and it’s like a fucking cauldron of virus and godknowswhat. The body odor alone…ewww.

DeSantis is an evil piece of shit.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:38:39am
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:39:35am

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

The GOP has decided to go full Götterdämmerung.

Without the music

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Interesting Times  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:40:53am

Anyone else see the symbolism in that average donation figure? Quite apropos:

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:41:37am

re: #43 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

They’re digging deeper and deeper while blindfolded

(Nyt)
With coronavirus cases surging in Florida, Republicans are planning to move the three nights of their national convention taking place in the state from an indoor arena to an outdoor venue in Jacksonville… It’s still unclear how many people will be allowed to attend the events

You wanna play August in Florida, what could possibly go wrong?
So many people already have and are way ahead…

Florida in August. Daily t-storms in PM. Hurricane/TS threat is a persistent and overwhelming threat.

And none of these nitwits will mask up or social distance.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:41:39am

re: #51 A Mom Anon

JFC. The humidity alone can damn near literally melt you. SO a virus that travels on moisture micro particles combined with humidity and no masks. THEN you add in that a a few of these super geniuses will put up swamp cooler type fans (they had them outside in Tulsa, where the people were camping out) and it’s like a fucking cauldron of virus and godknowswhat. The body odor alone…ewww.

DeSantis is an evil piece of shit.

Mom we are laughing here out loud.
That was wonderful

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:47:25am
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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:47:54am

Well, this should add a little extra spice to that presser…

Dad’s gonna be maaaaaaaaad.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:47:56am

re: #44 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

18m+ out of work
Many businesses, jobs and functions have been shutdown or closed
There aren’t 18m+ jobs out there

Princesse Atelier de Misère telling 55-year-old automotive engineers to “try something new” wrapping burgers at McDonald’s or greeting shoppers in Walmart.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:49:16am

re: #57 teleskiguy

First Bigot Bari quits and now Bigot Tory Queen Andy.

Who’s next? Bedbug Bret?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:50:30am

re: #53 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

Without the music

At least the music would make it a bit more tolerable.

Wagner Götterdämmerung - Siegfried’s death and Funeral march Klaus Tennstedt London Philharmonic

IIRC, this was used in the conclusion of Excalibur.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:51:30am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:52:28am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

re: #57 teleskiguy

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:54:19am

re: #61 Dr Lizardo

Tennstedt was one hell of a Mahler interpreter - his 3rd Symphony with the Philharmonia was wonderful.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:55:52am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:56:54am

re: #58 makeitstop

Well, this should add a little extra spice to that presser…

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Dad’s gonna be maaaaaaaaad.

One point below the Crazification Factor. Impressive.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:57:55am
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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:58:02am

re: #58 makeitstop

Well, this should add a little extra spice to that presser…

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Dad’s gonna be maaaaaaaaad.

2/3 of Americans will listen to experts, it’s just that half of them don’t want to pay to implement what the experts say is necessary.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:58:04am

re: #63 Eric The Fruit Bat

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:59:26am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:59:43am

Time to call it a day - up early for work tomorrow. Have fun, Lizards and stay healthy.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 11:59:43am

re: #65 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Clinton was unable to finish sentences that said the same thing.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:00:13pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:00:41pm

re: #52 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And the media will nod along and not challenge his lies, racism and pettiness. Will not be watching.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:02:58pm

re: #72 Belafon

Clinton was unable to finish sentences that said the same thing.

Yeah, and at least they were also saying “We (big we) have to help you find that something else”

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:04:19pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:04:34pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:04:37pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:06:13pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:06:48pm

re: #61 Dr Lizardo

At least the music would make it a bit more tolerable.

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Video

IIRC, this was used in the conclusion of Excalibur.

yup

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:10:11pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:10:59pm

Although police received multiple calls about a South Dakota man yelling racial slurs and homophobic comments in downtown Sioux Falls this Monday, the man was never arrested, the Argus Leader reports.

Wow, I wonder why he wasn’t arrested?????

rawstory.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:11:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:11:18pm
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sagehen  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:11:55pm

re: #42 The Pie Overlord!

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I seem to remember Hillary proposing FREE RETRAINING AND GUARANTEED JOBS for coal miners willing to build and install windmills and solar panels. The Trumps and their fans were outraged, outraged I tell you, that she would ever suggest anybody find a new job.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:13:48pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

In other words, they were testing the waters to see how far they could push things. This time, they got enough pushback to realize they couldn’t go that far yet.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:15:30pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is this the student-deportation thing?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:16:05pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:19:52pm

DENIED.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:24:56pm

Afternoon Lizards:

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:25:18pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

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Freddie DeBoer would be a good bet, actually!
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:26:15pm

...

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:26:24pm

re: #63 Eric The Fruit Bat

“How can we miss you if you won’t go away?”

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:29:58pm

re: #76 Patricia Kayden

Oh, he’s going to write for Der Sturmer, or Volkischer Beobachter at least! Cool.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:30:16pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:31:37pm

One thing that needs to happen is getting rid of ICE. They’ve become a rogue agency and there are cases of agents abusing children and worse which have been proven. Not to mention all the missing kids and broken families. They need to go. What we did before was working, it’s the fever dreams of conservatives that stoked public fears that made it a reality in the first place.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:31:56pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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as usual
all talk
nothing behind it
either they dont have the power
or are too lazy to do it right
every single time

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:33:27pm

re: #96 A Mom Anon

One thing that needs to happen is getting rid of ICE. They’ve become a rogue agency and there are cases of agents abusing children and worse which have been proven. Not to mention all the missing kids and broken families. They need to go. What we did before was working, it’s the fever dreams of conservatives that stoked public fears that made it a reality in the first place.

And DHS, which should never have been formed.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:35:42pm

Each day on baking Twitter we inch closer to the moment when someone argues for a reduction in sentence because they were pretty sure the person they stabbed was cake.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:40:03pm

re: #98 Sherlock Hound

Exactly, that was a panic response to 9/11. The Bush administration had prior warning that something was brewing and did nothing to investigate further.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:40:44pm

re: #96 A Mom Anon

One thing that needs to happen is getting rid of ICE. They’ve become a rogue agency and there are cases of agents abusing children and worse which have been proven. Not to mention all the missing kids and broken families. They need to go. What we did before was working, it’s the fever dreams of conservatives that stoked public fears that made it a reality in the first place.

Agreed. They bitched and moaned that Democrats were keeping them from doing their jobs, that they weren’t appreciated, etc. They were given a Do Whatever You Want and here we are. They’re fucking Nazis. Abolish them, burn it down and start from scratch.

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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:42:02pm

re: #100 A Mom Anon

Exactly, that was a panic response to 9/11. The Bush administration had prior warning that something was brewing and did nothing to investigate further.

It really was doing something for the sake of doing something. And of course, part of the process was the break up of INS that lead to ICE and CBP being separate entities from CIS.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:44:31pm
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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:46:31pm

I’ll also add, part of the problem with ICE is that our immigration laws are very outdated and stupid. The fact that we haven’t had major reform since the Reagan administration is stupider than the stupid that is Trump’s misadministration of immigration law.

Granted, I’m as close as you can get to being an open border advocate, but even if we aren’t going to go that far, can we at least not rely on a system older than Windows?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:46:33pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Indeed. There are lawyers who have built careers off these people.

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sagehen  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:46:47pm

re: #95 Patricia Kayden

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All they’re asking for is “equal protection under the law.”

As was promised, in writing, more than 150 years ago. Passed by 2/3 majority in both House and Senate, then ratified by 3/4 of the States.

Seems like a pretty mild ask. Should’ve been a gimme, shouldn’t have needed massive protest rallies in all 50 states and a dozen foreign capitals.

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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:48:22pm

re: #105 Eclectic Cyborg

Indeed. There are lawyers who have built careers off these people.

As a lawyer who has won and lost anti-SLAPP motions, I really wish there weren’t lawyers out there willing to take these kinds of cases. These people, if they really want their day in court, should be there in pro per

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:49:55pm

Trump is Using Us

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:50:55pm

What a fucking dumb move.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:51:59pm

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

What happens if most of the school districts around the country tell DeVos to fuck off? They all lose their funding?

at least until biden takes over.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:55:08pm

re: #87 Belafon

Is this the student-deportation thing?

yes

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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:55:22pm

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

What happens if most of the school districts around the country tell DeVos to fuck off? They all lose their funding?

Most school districts get their funding from state and local governments. It’s something like less than 10% that comes from the feds.

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gwangung  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:56:39pm

re: #112 KGxvi

Most school districts get their funding from state and local governments. It’s something like less than 10% that comes from the feds.

Albeit, schools in many districts (read: minority heavy) are so starved of funding that every dollar, even from the feds, count.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 12:59:04pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

But they’re also forcing the targets to spend money that would go to just causes (like trolling Nunes in the cases of the Devin Nunes cow case, or the ADL going after bigots and extremists). Who’s funding these lawsuits in the first place?

It reeks of lawfare, with an attempt to silence those critics.

One solution would be to impose national anti-SLAPP suit. I’m sure that’ll go over great with the tort reform crowd. /heh.

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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:00:17pm

re: #113 gwangung

Albeit, schools in many districts (read: minority heavy) are so starved of funding that every dollar, even from the feds, count.

True. Hell, even in wealthy districts teachers have been asking parents to donate basics for the classroom because the district can’t provide them.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:01:05pm
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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:03:09pm

re: #114 lawhawk

We need to amend Rule 12(b) and/or 56.

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Dread Pirate  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:04:06pm
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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:06:06pm

re: #118 Dread Pirate

This is my shocked face upon discovering that cryptocurrencies are being used for money laundering

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:06:52pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

What the fuck are his qualifications? Besides being a goddamned Nazi?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:08:42pm

re: #109 makeitstop

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What a fucking dumb move.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:09:29pm

Imagine smart people understanding that this administration is evil:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:09:29pm

Made this handy BINGO card for Trumps presser today.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:11:02pm

The photo issue is on the WSJ, not Newt. Newt’s head is firmly up Trump’s rearside.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:12:25pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:12:43pm

re: #124 lawhawk

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The photo issue is on the WSJ, not Newt. Newt’s head is firmly up Trump’s rearside.

“illegal island building”

whut?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:12:52pm

576 new cases in Kentucky today. Highest except for the day they tested an entire prison.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:14:00pm

re: #125 Belafon

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I hope this made Santa Monica Goebbels cry.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:14:02pm

re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg

Made this handy BINGO card for Trumps presser today.

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“Praises self”

OK I know including this would break the bank because that’s like his entire press conferences

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Ming5000  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:14:22pm

re: #72 Belafon

Clinton was unable to finish sentences that said the same thing.

She had a plan for coal minors, but they continued illogically wanting their old, disappearing, jobs.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:14:26pm

re: #126 Sir John Barron

“…The new islands allow China to harness a portion of the sea for its own use that has been relatively out of reach until now. Although there are significant fisheries and possible large oil and gas reserves in the South China Sea, China’s efforts serve more to fortify its territorial claims than to help it extract natural resources, said Mira Rapp-Hooper, formerly the director of the Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington research group.”
nytimes.com

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:14:40pm

A match made in Hell.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:14:57pm

re: #129 Sir John Barron

“Praises self”

OK I know including this would break the bank because that’s like his entire press conferences

Agreed. Though I wonder if I should have put the Redskins in there somewhere…

/

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:15:20pm
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:15:21pm

re: #126 Sir John Barron

“illegal island building”

whut?

South China Sea has a group of atolls and islands that are barely above sea level. Spratly Islands are one such group, and the area is claimed by six countries, including China. China has furthered their claims by engineering structures on two of these atolls, so that they can have a “stronger” claim.

The US has engaged in freedom of seas navigation missions by sailing within the area China claims as theirs.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:15:49pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

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There’s a National Security Education Board?

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:16:22pm

re: #132 DodgerFan1988

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A match made in Hell.

I can’t cancel a subscription that I never made in the first place. Let’em rot together.

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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:16:29pm

re: #126 Sir John Barron

“illegal island building”

whut?

China has literally been building and claiming islands in the South China Sea in order to expand their territorial water claims. This is from 2015:

cbsnews.com

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:16:33pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:18:41pm

re: #139 Belafon

Pink slime, huh? Well, can’t say we weren’t warned…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:18:47pm

Six deaths reported in Kentucky today.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:19:03pm

re: #139 Belafon

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“Fox News, talk radio, Sinclair, the Wall Street Journal, twitter accounts, facebook videos, youtube, all prove how censored true real conservatives are.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:19:47pm

re: #138 KGxvi

China has literally been building and claiming islands in the South China Sea in order to expand their territorial water claims. This is from 2015:

cbsnews.com

The “building” part really stood out.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:20:04pm

re: #132 DodgerFan1988

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A match made in Hell.

Oh to be a fly on the wall hearing those three assholes scream at each other!!!!!

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CleverToad  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:20:09pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

Good juju sent, digits crossed for you

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:22:30pm

re: #145 CleverToad

Good juju sent, digits crossed for you

“juju” is my new favorite word.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:26:57pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:28:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:29:46pm

re: #109 makeitstop

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What a fucking dumb move.

is this where he orders the National Guard to the hospitals to “collect information”?

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:30:27pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

This where he orders the National Guard to the hospitals to hide information from the CDC.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:31:19pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

is this where he orders the National Guard to the hospitals to “collect information”?

No, he wants them to report straight to a database in DC.

I’d love to see hospitals everywhere keep reporting to the CDC, or otherwise make their numbers public.

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Jack Burton  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:32:48pm

re: #150 jaunte

This where he orders the National Guard to the hospitals to hide information from the CDC.

This is probably where yet another Federal judge (possibly even one he appointed) smacks him on the peepee and says “Nice try, but NO.”

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:34:33pm

Australia to everybody except maybe New Zealand: ‘Y’all just stay over there.’

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Jay C  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:35:03pm

re: #143 Sir John Barron

The “building” part really stood out.

Yes: several of these “islands” were basically just reefs or shoals, and the Chinese (mainly via their military) have spent years of labor and a ton of money hauling rocks, dirt, concrete, etc. out to sea to literally “build” them into “islands”, and then usually built military installations on top of them.

Under the Law Of The Sea (which the US has never ratified, btw), countries’ “territorial waters” are defined by their proximity to the country: however, a nation planting new “territory” in the middle of the ocean kind of raises a bunch of questions.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:35:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:36:29pm
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jaunte  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:38:08pm

He would have defended them if they shot the whole crowd.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:38:48pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

He also said that more White than Black people are killed by the police. I guess that makes police brutality okay then.

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Jay C  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:40:26pm

re: #158 Patricia Kayden

He also said that more White than Black people are killed by the police. I guess that makes police brutality okay then.

White privilege….

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:47:28pm
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jaunte  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:49:27pm

Cannibalism, a key spiritual aspiration for Rush Limbaugh.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:50:58pm
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Dread Pirate  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:51:03pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:52:12pm

re: #160 Patricia Kayden

Rush, just die please.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:54:06pm
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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:54:38pm

re: #154 Jay C

Under the Law Of The Sea (which the US has never ratified, btw), countries’ “territorial waters” are defined by their proximity to the country: however, a nation planting new “territory” in the middle of the ocean kind of raises a bunch of questions.

The last few decades the US has had this probably not good practice of signing treaties but not ratifying them. the Law of the Sea Treaty is one such, where we are a signatory to the agreement, but it has never been sent to the Senate for ratification.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:54:48pm

re: #163 Dread Pirate

So Matt Gaetz was just ahead of the curve?

/

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:55:59pm

re: #165 Charles Johnson

Black people in a crowd = rioting in Trump’s racist, feverish brain.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:56:52pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

Cry me a river.

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Bari Weiss as “superb left-centrist columnist”. LOL

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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:57:09pm

re: #164 Ace Rothstein

Rush, just die please.

I know he’s probably terminal* at this point, but I want him to at least hold on until the election and so he can watch Trump get less than 200 electoral votes.

*One of my favorite recurring Vin Scully lines back in the day, “he was injured last night and is listed as day to day… aren’t we all?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:57:24pm

re: #161 jaunte

Cannibalism, a key spiritual aspiration for Rush Limbaugh.

well, he’s not so worth putting on a spit over an open fire anymore…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:58:31pm

One of the cool things about wearing a mask is that you can take a handful of trail mix and dump it into the mask, then munch away on it all day like a fucking horse.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:58:42pm

No Libtards to own over at Parler.

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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:59:10pm

re: #172 Charles Johnson

One of the cool things about wearing a mask is that you can take a handful of trail mix and dump it into the mask, then munch away on it all day like a fucking horse.

When we finally don’t have to wear masks again, I’m going to have to relearn covering my mouth when I yawn.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 14, 2020 • 1:59:33pm

re: #173 DodgerFan1988

I checked my Parler account earlier today. Not much going on over there.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:00:26pm

re: #173 DodgerFan1988

Trump supporters flocked to social media network Parler last month, claiming that it would soon rival Twitter. A few weeks later, though, many of Parler’s prominent boosters have already stopped posting there, even as they continue to tweet.

Gee, nobody could have seen that coming.

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sagehen  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:00:41pm

re: #160 Patricia Kayden

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correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought pioneer cannibals was one notorious incident that even 150 years later is a well-known cautionary tale about the importance of planning ahead when you travel…

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Jay C  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:02:57pm

re: #177 sagehen

correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought pioneer cannibals was one notorious incident that even 150 years later is a well-known cautionary tale about the importance of planning ahead when you travel…

Well, there was old Alferd Packer….

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:03:19pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

I checked my Parler account earlier today. Not much going on over there.

Throw some bombs…… Dare them to throw you off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:03:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:06:56pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:08:49pm

Boy. Fat Donny’s CBS interview was really something.
It Looks like he took all his racism and bigotry out of the fridge and made cookies out of it.

Holy shit, these clips are something.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:08:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:09:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:10:07pm
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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:10:14pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

In February we needed a pragmatist who could rebuilding government. Today, we need something more. That Biden is willing to go big on some of this stuff is probably a net positive.

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stpaulbear  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:10:49pm

re: #139 Belafon

I checked that interactive map and found one conservative site in St. Paul. I clicked on it and the front page news hasn’t been updated since the Minneapolis protests. It shows a dozen covid-19 deaths in MN. Some of the other sections have been updated more recently but it’s pretty worthless stuff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:11:12pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:11:21pm

Wut is right…

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piratedan  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:12:02pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

and he’s correct, all that has been lacking is the will to enact it (and control of getting the policy passed).

We could be attempting to address our energy policy wholesale, using wind and solar instead of drilling and mining. Does that mean we still won’t need petroleum, not really but in the staggering demands of yesteryear… no

We could do ourselves a solid by investing in technology to pick up our own fucking trash out of the oceans

we could be working on the next resource crisis in working on desalination of ocean water into something potable.

WE CAN DO THESE THINGS, it simply takes making it a priority to do so.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:12:07pm

Another Wut……

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:12:11pm

re: #173 DodgerFan1988

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No Libtards to own over at Parler.

GAB 2.0

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:12:56pm

re: #187 stpaulbear

I checked that interactive map and found one conservative site in St. Paul. I clicked on it and the front page news hasn’t been updated since the Minneapolis protests. It shows a dozen covid-19 deaths in MN. Some of the other sections have been updated more recently but it’s pretty worthless stuff.

I bet a majority of the active ones in our area come from my neck of the woods. Some of them may even be actual news outlets.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:13:34pm

re: #177 sagehen

correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought pioneer cannibals was one notorious incident that even 150 years later is a well-known cautionary tale about the importance of planning ahead when you travel…

That’s how you remember history because you’re normal. Limbaugh begs to differ. His recollection of history is full of cannibalistic patriots.

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KGxvi  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:13:42pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is the trap Trump creates:

if you are an honest civil servant and want to do a good job, you have to play the word games that Fauci unfortunately has had to play. If you’re blunt and honest with the public, you’re forced out or otherwise sidelined because Trump can’t stand hearing that he is wrong. And if you’re forced out, then you’re replaced by someone incompetent and/or willing to lie for Trump (so either incompetent in fact or in practice), which is a net public negative.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:14:09pm

re: #173 DodgerFan1988

Je ne parle pas extreme-droite, desole.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:16:08pm

re: #193 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So I took a look at the map, and what do you know - I was right. Ish. Of the four sites in the lower Twin Cities area, three of them are in Hennepin County. There’s one in Minneapolis proper, the other two are in towns that are very familiar and not too far away.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:18:58pm

re: #191 Dave In Austin

“All I say is freedom of speech. It’s very simple. My attitude is freedom of speech.”

Did she ask him about the Black Lives Matter street mural in front of his building?

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plansbandc  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:33:28pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

wut

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Thanos  Jul 14, 2020 • 2:40:09pm

re: #6 lawhawk

Meanwhile, Maxwell’s trial date has been set and yeah, it’s more than a year away. This is the opposite of the swift administration of justice. It’s justice delayed (going all the way back to when Acosta gave Epstein a sweetheart deal despite all the evidence pointing to a massive child sex trafficking operation, child rape, and other heinous acts):

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Yeah, but if Trump is implicated in her testimony we can actually do something about it then, so perhaps it’s good that it’s not expedited.


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