Washington Post Video Debunks Trump’s Lies About Mail-in Voting

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Here’s a pretty good analysis of Donald Trump’s absurdly false claims about mail-in voting by the Washington Post’s Philip Bump, making the very important point that Trump is trying to create an excuse to refuse to accept the results of the election.

The Fix’s Philip Bump explains how there’s little reason to expect an increase in voter fraud, despite President Trump’s repeated claims. Read more: https://wapo.st/32PdoPp. Subscribe to The Washington Post on YouTube: https://wapo.st/2QOdcqK

And the Trump-thing is right to be terrified of losing, if this new Quinnipiac poll is accurate.

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retired cynic  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:39:27am

GOTV!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:39:37am

You know the drill. FT and GOTFV!

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retired cynic  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:40:24am

For those who can Facebook, this is a Facebook Live Q&A with IL Senators Durbin and Duckworth.

facebook.com

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:40:25am

cl’ed

There is nothing more Washington than not being able to come up with a real plan, kick the can down the road, make no one happy and look like a complete bunch of inept morons.

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:40:49am

re: #4 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Teamy McWashface.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:41:07am

re: #4 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

cl’ed

There is nothing more Washington than not being able to come up with a real plan, kick the can down the road, make no one happy and look like a complete bunch of inept morons.

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I think they’re having legal complications with the name or names they want to select from.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:41:07am

Ah, electoral-vote.com shows Florida turning bluer every day.

And Texas gives Joe the edge as well.

The way things are going Joe is headed for an LBJ-type landslide!

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:41:29am

re: #5 jaunte

Teamy McWashface.

The Washington Washrags!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:42:18am

The Washington Footballs!

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:42:32am

re: #8 The Pie Overlord!

The Washington Washrags!

Oh looking more like The Washington Wimps with each passing day!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:42:59am

The Washington Washingtons!

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:43:22am

The Wash Tones

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:43:39am

The Washington Caucasians!

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:44:07am

Brilliance in political campaigning

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:44:59am

re: #14 jaunte

Brilliance in political campaigning

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PATRIOTS ONLY!!!!!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:45:37am

re: #14 jaunte

Brilliance in political campaigning

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Wait…the email actually. says. HIGH SELL-OUT RISK at the top in red?

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:46:54am

re: #16 Sir John Barron

When “marketing” is your first language, it seems fine.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:46:58am

re: #14 jaunte

Brilliance in political campaigning

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Trump: What’s wrong with these hats? Where’s the eagle head?
Aide:
Trump: Let’s call them ‘limited edition’ or something, ONLY FOR PATRIOTS. Our people will buy anything.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:46:59am

The Washington Adams.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:47:15am
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:47:33am

re: #14 jaunte

Brilliance in political campaigning

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And those caps are made in CHINA.

Remember the time I was in the gym while a steroid ingesting cop was preening in the mirror with his MAGA cap on saying, I LOVE AMERICA.

Asked him to take off his cap and see where it was made—of course it said CHINA. When I pointed that out the asshole went into a roid range while everyone in the locker room laughed at him…

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:48:15am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:49:06am

re: #19 Belafon

The Washington Adams.

Washington Leakers.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:49:43am

The Washington Metros!

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:49:50am

re: #19 Belafon

The Washington Adams.

re: #19 Belafon

The Washington Adams.

Brings back memories of this commercial!

Adams Sour Gum

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:50:00am

The Washington Swamps!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:50:06am
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jaunte  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:50:08am

The Washington Irvings; mascot: the Headless Eagle.

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stpaulbear  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:50:23am

re: #14 jaunte

…because the hats feature a HEADLESS EAGLE.

Now I want one.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:50:29am

The Washington Capitols!

Oh wait…hockey

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:50:54am

re: #29 stpaulbear

You have to get someone to share the forbidden email.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:52:44am

re: #29 stpaulbear

Now I want one.

ONLY FOR PATRIOTS REDEEMABLE WITH PATRIOT DOLLARS

I can’t believe Drump hasn’t thought of that yet. Make his loony followers convert their cash to Trump Dollars or something at an inflated rate of course.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:53:31am

re: #4 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

The Washington Wendigos!!

Wendigo is the Ojibwe name - in the Algonquin language, it’s Widjigo.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:53:48am

That’s exactly the truth. The Conspiracy industry is the mutant offspring of the John Birch Society and the 60s drug culture, and is now a joint venture of the Russian oligarchy and “Big Woo” (the snake-oil/quack healthcare industry).

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:54:27am

re: #32 Sir John Barron

ONLY FOR PATRIOTS REDEEMABLE WITH PATRIOT DOLLARS

I can’t believe Drump hasn’t thought of that yet. Make his loony followers convert their cash to Trump Dollars or something at an inflated rate of course.

MAGAT: Look at this Great hat I got at Trump STore

Person: How much did it cost?

MAGAT: Only 30 Trump Bucks!

Person: What is that in real dollars?

MAGAT: Uh, let’s see, I gave them $50. But it was only 30 Trump Bucks!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:54:32am

“The Washingtons”.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:56:34am
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stpaulbear  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:56:57am

re: #31 jaunte

You have to get someone to share the forbidden email.

I really need to give money to the MN DFL before I spend any money on a sarcastic nostalgia item.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:58:07am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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“Housewives”

lol

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2020 • 11:58:49am

re: #38 stpaulbear

I have a free copy of a 2018 Epoch Times that I’m saving as a sample of pure Stalinist propaganda.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:00:37pm

re: #40 jaunte

I have a free copy of a 2018 Epoch Times that I’m saving as a sample of pure Stalinist propaganda.

And they’re flooding You Tube with pro-Trump ads…

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stpaulbear  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:01:17pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Have any of Trump’s tweets ever gotten ratioed or are there too many bots hitting the ‘like’ button?

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calochortus  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:02:12pm

re: #39 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

“Housewives”

lol

Well, I’m a housewife and I live in a suburb. But I’m not who Trump is referring to. I was a housewife because you couldn’t give a geologist away when I got my degree, and we were in a good enough financial position that we could afford to have me at home. I enjoyed housewifery and was good at it, from Scouts and carpools to minor plumbing and electrical work.

I’m an unapologetic liberal and I’m fine with diversity.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:02:35pm

Another Smartass Karen!

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:03:15pm

re: #43 calochortus

Well, I’m a housewife and I live in a suburb. But I’m not who Trump is referring to. I was a housewife because you couldn’t give a geologist away when I got my degree, and we were in a good enough financial position that we could afford to have me at home. I enjoyed housewifery and was good at it, from Scouts and carpools to minor plumbing and electrical work.

I’m an unapologetic liberal and I’m fine with diversity.

Is the term housewife even really used anymore?

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Interesting Times  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:05:49pm

The Washington Gridlocks

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:06:08pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:06:20pm

The Washington Football Team

*insert mascot here*

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calochortus  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:06:25pm

re: #45 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Is the term housewife even really used anymore?

Sure. I far prefer it to “homemaker” and I don’t know any other brief descriptions of the job. It is the proper historical term for a woman whose employment is taking care of the house. Like a fishwife is a woman employed selling fish.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:08:48pm

re: #49 calochortus

Sure. I far prefer it to “homemaker” and I don’t know any other brief descriptions of the job. It is the proper historical term for a woman whose employment is taking care of the home. Like a fishwife is a woman employed selling fish.

I was thinking that the term “stay at home mom/dad” had usurped that. Thanks for learning me something.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:09:30pm

Wondering how a policeman had half a million dollars in unreported income…

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calochortus  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:12:25pm

re: #50 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

I was thinking that the term “stay at home mom/dad” had usurped that. Thanks for learning me something.

Stay at home is OK too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:13:03pm

Yes, Florida is a mess

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:13:33pm

re: #51 🌹UOJB!

Wondering how a policeman had half a million dollars in unreported income…

Maybe he had a side job.

For instance, maybe being like this guy. That’s a side job.
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Belafon  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:13:47pm

re: #48 teleskiguy

The Washington Football Team

*insert mascot here*

The Washington AT&T’s
The Washington Posts
The Washington K-Streets

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:13:56pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:16:51pm

Justice Department inspector general to examine law enforcement actions at Portland, D.C. protests

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz announced Thursday he has opened an investigation into the use of force by U.S. marshals in Portland, Ore. The investigation will review federal agents’ conduct at protests there and in the District of Columbia in recent months

Trump will fire Horowitz in 5…4…3…2…1…

washingtonpost.com

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:16:57pm

The Washington Generics.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:18:23pm

The Washington K Streeters

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:18:27pm

re: #50 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

I was thinking that the term “stay at home mom/dad” had usurped that. Thanks for learning me something.

I used to refer to myself as a house-spouse.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:18:59pm

re: #45 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Is the term housewife even really used anymore?

“Real Housewives of New Jersey”

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dat_said  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:21:57pm

re: #51 🌹UOJB!

Wondering how a policeman had half a million dollars in unreported income…

Didn’t file taxes at all for at least three years, so that’s $150K to $200K for his salary plus whatever his wife made. He also didn’t report $96K from moonlighting at El Nuevo Rodeo dance club and that wasn’t his only outside gig.

Interesting that the Mpls Strib has a quote stating the investigation started before his killing of George Floyd.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:24:24pm

re: #45 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Is the term housewife even really used anymore?

Domestic Engineer

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A Mom Anon  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:25:08pm

re: #49 calochortus

I’m the opposite. I am not married to my house, I’m married to my husband. Home maker to me is the person who does all the stuff it takes to make a house into a warm and comfy place to land when the world sucks. And when it doesn’t. That’s what my Home Ec teachers leaned towards too. It’s weird, how stuff has shifted and turned just since the Vietnam War.

But honestly, both terms are outdated. I think stay home/ full time parent is more common. Fewer women stay home or have the luxury to now. It takes two incomes to raise kids, it has for awhile. For the majority of families at least. Plus single parents, the hardest job ever. The American family has morphed a lot since the 60s and 70s when I was a kid. All the moms I knew stayed home, and true ones in my neighborhood did too. Except single or widowed moms, there were a few and they found jobs to supplement life insurance or whatever. Most of the moms I’ve known with kids who stay home now are in a lucky place to do so. They could go back to work but don’t have to for survival.

And thank you for coming to my TED talk about a brief history of suburbia….

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calochortus  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:28:19pm

re: #63 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Domestic Engineer

Ummm, nope.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:28:31pm

re: #36 GlutenFreeJesus

“The Washingtons”.

Where the tickets cost Benjamins.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:30:10pm

Z and I are both retired now, but I still worked for 10 years after Z retired. I would come home from work and he would be like “What’s for dinner!” and I was like “You’re home all day, why don’t you learn how to cook?”

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A Mom Anon  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:31:50pm

re: #65 calochortus

Yeah no. I had someone tell me I needed to use that on a job application and treat it like a normal job entry. A sure fire way to look ridiculous. I couldn’t bring myself to try it.

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:32:12pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

By this time there’s probably a subcommand of trolls in St. Petersburg
assigned to aggravate tensions. The And This Surprises You? Squad.

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:32:47pm

We have plenty of domestic talent, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:33:14pm

re: #14 jaunte

Brilliance in political campaigning

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Perfect hat for the discriminating sell-out…

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calochortus  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:34:58pm

re: #64 A Mom Anon

The “wife” part of housewife refers to the older meaning of “woman”, not “married woman.”
Homemaker, domestic engineer, etc. were efforts to make an increasing disrespected job sound better. If anyone prefers those terms, you are more than welcome to use them. I’m sticking with housewife, ‘cause I’m stubborn and don’t hold with newfangled terms like homemaker (which, I think, is Victorian era in origin.)

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:37:59pm

re: #44 🌹UOJB!

Another Smartass Karen!

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She can bake her own fucking cake.

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sagehen  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:38:22pm

re: #45 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Is the term housewife even really used anymore?

I think now they’re homemakers.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:39:08pm

re: #68 A Mom Anon

Yeah no. I had someone tell me I needed to use that on a job application and treat it like a normal job entry. A sure fire way to look ridiculous. I couldn’t bring myself to try it.

Sadly, it shouldn’t be ridiculous. Throughout history, the upper and middle classes have paid people to do “housework” (so there is recognition that “housework” has economic value) that lower class women were expected to perform with no compensation or recognition in their own households (and judged by society if they couldn’t meet middle-class standards) in addition to contributing to the household economy.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:39:23pm

re: #51 🌹UOJB!

Wondering how a policeman had half a million dollars in unreported income…

Extortion of course

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:40:19pm

re: #74 sagehen

I think now they’re homemakers.

When I hear the word “homemaker” it reminds me of these commercials from the 60s!

SUZY HOMEMAKER TOY COMMERCIAL

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:41:12pm

re: #76 Eventual Carrion

Extortion of course

Maybe with a little side-hustle of drug dealing when he needed a new pair of shoes.

And with that, time to call it a day. Have a good one Lizards, and stay healthy.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:41:47pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:43:58pm

re: #77 🌹UOJB!

‘Suzy Homemaker’ came to my mind right away too but I couldn’t remember the reference. First thing I thought was Frank Zappa, but then I remembered that was Suzy Creamcheese. Thanks for connecting my memory.

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plansbandc  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:44:04pm

re: #77 🌹UOJB!

Had a Suzy Homemaker vacuum, stove, and blender.

Didn’t make me a great homemaker either. :D

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:44:48pm
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calochortus  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:44:59pm

re: #81 plansbandc

Had a Suzy Homemaker vacuum, stove, and blender.

Didn’t make me a great homemaker either. :D

Never had any of those things. If I wanted to bake or something, I could help Mom.

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calochortus  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:45:33pm

re: #83 calochortus

Never had any of those things. If I wanted to bake or something, I could help Mom.

Probably should have put “help” in quotes, there.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:46:04pm

re: #65 calochortus

Ummm, nope.

It’s a description I’ve seen tossed about from time to time, so I figured I would throw it into the mix as well.

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plansbandc  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:47:25pm

re: #83 calochortus

We had an Easy Bake Oven too.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:47:30pm

re: #82 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

1. I like the Milk Duds.
2. Did they welcome him into their club?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:47:57pm

Wow, looking like the tangerine tyrant is going to have to veto the defense budget

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calochortus  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:50:12pm

re: #85 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

It’s a description I’ve seen tossed about from time to time, so I figured I would throw it into the mix as well.

Yeah, I know. I think it dates back to around the ’70s as a way to try to make women feel like being a housewife was respected occupation. Sort of like everyone above the level of clerk in a financial firm is a Vice President. Now I think it’s mostly used ironically.

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nines09  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:50:32pm

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:50:34pm

Stephen Miller helped kill his own grandmother.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:52:42pm
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Teddy's Person  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:52:56pm

re: #90 nines09

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:55:59pm

re: #92 Dread Pirate

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If after this none of the WH Press Corps asks about the bounties during the next Trump presser, it will be a gross dereliction of duty.

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Florida Panhandler  Jul 23, 2020 • 12:59:07pm

re: #94 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If after this none of the WH Press Corps asks about the bounties during the next Trump presser, it will be a gross dereliction of duty.

In other words, it’s Thursday.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:03:08pm

re: #13 Sir John Barron

The Washington Caucasians!

😂 We’re trying to get away from race!!

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:04:17pm

re: #96 Patricia Kayden

😂 We’re trying to get away from race!!

He’s talking mountains here!

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nines09  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:06:52pm

re: #93 Teddy’s Person

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:07:12pm

re: #86 plansbandc

We had an Easy Bake Oven too.

My sister had an Easy Bake and I was fascinated how a lightbulb could work in that oven!

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:07:50pm

re: #90 nines09

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calochortus  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:09:24pm

re: #99 🌹UOJB!

My sister had an Easy Bake and I was fascinated how a lightbulb could work in that oven!

Which should have made everyone stop and think about the amount of energy wasted as heat from incandescent bulbs. Not that there was much of an alternative back then.

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stpaulbear  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:10:11pm

re: #91 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Stephen Miller helped kill his own grandmother.

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Jebus, I read the response from the White House and it is vile. Sounds just like Miller. Not going to copy it but it’s in the article.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:10:48pm

Someone probably already had the idea but my friend theorized the Seattle Kraken home arena should now be colloquially known as the “Krakhouse”

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nines09  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:11:46pm

re: #100 Patricia Kayden

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:13:45pm

re: #101 calochortus

Which should have made everyone stop and think about the amount of energy wasted as heat from incandescent bulbs. Not that there was much of an alternative back then.

And how ironic that during the Obama Administration when the regs were written that put the death knell to the standard 100 watt incandescant the GOP’s were all in a rage and tried to pass some ‘Lightbulb Freedom Act’ - Led by Michelle Bachmann (R-Mars)….

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:14:08pm
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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:15:37pm

Bill has it all figured out:

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Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:15:58pm

The term “housewife” may have some relevance today, but largely in america it is an antiquated notion. Of the families that I know, if there is one able to stay home, is because they can’t find work (as with my wife in the great recession, her demographic (minority female over 50) had the worst time finding work out of all demographics), or they’re disabled. I’ll bet there are a whole bunch of people under 30 that never heard the term. Just being home doesn’t make you a housewife either. It has to be some kind of social norm and enough affluence to willingly stay home. My wife would never call herself a housewife. She wanted to work, but could not so I would never catagorize her situation as “voluntary and desireable”. Of course, I’m excluding the people who do it for religious and other reasons. Trump of course, uses the term solely as a dogwhistle.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:16:10pm

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

Sports is going to be a mess. Although maybe not for the NHL because they are finishing their season entirely in Canada.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:16:20pm

It’s really surprising that no company has come up with an at-home COVID-19 test-kit that’s cheap, quick and accurate.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:17:47pm

re: #110 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s really surprising that no company has come up with an at-home COVID-19 test-kit that’s cheap, quick and accurate.

They can charge governments more than they can individuals at this point….

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gwangung  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:18:24pm

re: #110 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s really surprising that no company has come up with an at-home COVID-19 test-kit that’s cheap, quick and accurate.

Of course, an incentive would be to know that the federal government would buy a good chunk of those if developed….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:18:48pm

re: #110 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s really surprising that no company has come up with an at-home COVID-19 test-kit that’s cheap, quick and accurate.

As I understand it progress is being made in that area, but we haven’t got one that’s both efficient and easily mass producable as of yet.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:19:01pm

I wanted one of these so bad (was an April fools joke at thinkgeek.com)

This is taking geeky baked goods to an entirely new level. This is a new and incredibly geek-tastic twist on an old favorite-The EZ-Bake Oven. The PC EZ-Bake Oven isn’t satisfied at merely looking geekier than its child’s-toy counterpart, it must be the geekiest oven you’ve ever seen. This PC EZ-Bake Oven actually fits into your spare 5 1/4″ drive bay, and works on your computer’s power source!

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Jay C  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:19:15pm

re: #107 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Bill has it all figured out:

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TBH, this is probably one of the vanishingly few Bill Mitchell tweets that is probably right…..

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retired cynic  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:20:05pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:21:11pm

Well, this sucks. My dad just called and said my stepmom, who has been fighting cancer for five years now, was taken to hospital in an Ambulance this morning.

It’s NOT Covid (they were both tested). We don’t know much yet. He’s also heartbroken that because of the restrictions she can’t have any visitors, including him.

Good juju appreciated.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:21:46pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

Am doing right now. Hope she will be better soon!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:22:09pm

re: #116 retired cynic

We just MIGHT be able to get Mexico to pay for that one!

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Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:22:27pm

{{{{{Eclectic Cyborg}}}}}

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:23:18pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

Vibes from the Fruit Bat Cave are emanating - even from the Petulant Persian, Ozzie:

Ozzie
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Belafon  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:23:29pm

re: #110 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s really surprising that no company has come up with an at-home COVID-19 test-kit that’s cheap, quick and accurate.

I saw something that a company was developing where you would breathe into the testing device.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:24:19pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, this sucks. My dad just called and said my stepmom, who has been fighting cancer for five years now, was taken to hospital in an Ambulance this morning.

It’s NOT Covid (they were both tested). We don’t know much yet. He’s also heartbroken that because of the restrictions she can’t have any visitors, including him.

Good juju appreciated.

Positive thoughts headed your way.

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Jay C  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:24:28pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

{{{{EC}}}}

Yet another of the “biggest bummers” of the CV-19 pandemic: being unable to accompany one’s loved ones when they (likely might) most need it.
Good juju transmitted…..

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:25:32pm
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:27:50pm

re: #122 Belafon

I saw something that a company was developing where you would breathe into the testing device.

From a testing point, that sucks - that implies the testing process needs to be fixed-in-place. If it can be platformed onto a mobile device, there may be some benefit.

But I’m not seeing it.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:29:10pm

The fact that 6 months later america doesn’t have covid tests falling out of ears is fucking pathetic.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:30:18pm

re: #98 nines09

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:31:00pm

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

The USA long passed 10% of its population exposed to SARS-CoV2. Will we hit 20% by election day?

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calochortus  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:32:45pm

re: #122 Belafon

I saw something that a company was developing where you would breathe into the testing device.

The Finns have one being tested. I think a couple other countries are working on them.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:34:34pm

A thought on why fewer people are dying right now than when it hit New York: The most susceptible people, older people, have been staying at home or wearing a mask, whereas in New York, by the time it became a big enough problem to respond to, the disease had already spread significantly in the area, and thus older people were already infected.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:35:34pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

Positive thought coming your way from the Teddy household.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:37:53pm

re: #69 jaunte

By this time there’s probably a subcommand of trolls in St. Petersburg
assigned to aggravate tensions. The And This Surprises You? Squad.

Yeah, I realized there’s nothing I can do about it - too many people just can’t resist the urge to be a dick and play one-upmanship. So I’m now getting over being annoyed, because it just comes with the territory.

Not totally over it yet, though.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:38:06pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

Sending good thoughts your way as well as

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Interesting Times  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:43:59pm

They didn’t abandon their church - their church abandoned them:

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Teddy's Person  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:44:21pm

If you have HBO Max, this might be the content you’re looking for.

The Dog House: UK | Official Trailer | HBO Max

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Nojay UK  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:44:24pm

re: #127 Amory Blaine

Testing that is fast, cheap, accurate — pick any two out of three.

Right now a test for active infectious cases of COVID-19 involves RT-PCR, a biotech process that needs specialised equipment, very pure chemicals, trained technicians working in a sterile environment and a certain amount of time for every test. The upside is that, done properly, RT-PCR detection of COVID-19 RNA is very accurate, only wrong a handful of times in every hundred tests. Any test that’s capable of being carried out quickly by untrained amateurs in non-sterile conditions is going to be horrendously inaccurate in both directions, returning lots of false negatives as well as false positives.

There are all sorts of Biggest Biochemical Breakthrough Since Breakfast (BBBSB) articles in the press about this device or that idea (we’re getting a number of “COVID-19 sniffing dogs” reports in the press right now here in the UK) but there’s a lot of money to be made even if your BBBSB COVID-19 testing machine fails dismally since right now a lot of people and governments are willing to spaff great wads of cash up against the wall just in case it might work this time. The odds are agin it, generally though (see quinine as a worked example).

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stpaulbear  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:45:10pm

This is pretty funny. A Daily Show writer participates in a Trump boat parade. The interviews are kind of jaw dropping.

Trump’s Boat Rally - Jordan Klepper Fingers the Pulse | The Daily Social Distancing Show

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bratwurst  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:45:17pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:47:57pm

re: #129 Eric The Fruit Bat

Or more. Trump has exhibited zero leadership on handling the Coronavirus. Thank goodness for a few sensible mayors and Governors who took a sensible approach from the get go.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:51:37pm

re: #141 Patricia Kayden

Or more. Trump has exhibited zero leadership on handling the Coronavirus. Thank goodness for a few sensible mayors and Governors who took a sensible approach from the get go.

He hasn’t shown leadership on anything.

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plansbandc  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:56:53pm

I’m so thankful for our Governor. If Steve Pearce had been elected, we would be in as bad a shape as Arizona and Texas.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:57:39pm
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sagehen  Jul 23, 2020 • 1:59:21pm

re: #131 Belafon

A thought on why fewer people are dying right now than when it hit New York: The most susceptible people, older people, have been staying at home or wearing a mask, whereas in New York, by the time it became a big enough problem to respond to, the disease had already spread significantly in the area, and thus older people were already infected.

also, 2 months of trial and error in NY identified best practices for treatments. Remdesivir is too new to have FDA approval yet (a broad-spectrum antiviral, classed as experimental, originally developed by Ebola researchers), but it seems to be helpful up to a point. The federal government bought up the company’s entire stockpile, and they’re handing it over to cities/hospitals under the same favored-states patronage model as they used for ventilators and PPE earlier in the year.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:01:47pm

re: #140 bratwurst

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Jay C  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:05:02pm

re: #143 plansbandc

I’m so thankful for our Governor. If Steve Pearce had been elected, we would be in as bad a shape as Arizona and Texas.

Ours too (Andrew Cuomo): I was never overly impressed much with Andy (and still think he’s basically as big an asshole as ever sat in the Governor’s chair in Albany: which is quite *distinguished* company), but his handling of the COVID-19 pandemic in NYS has been - to say the least - more-than-adequate. Pissed off as a lot of people have been at how the State (and, of course, the City) have dealt with the plague, under Cuomo, New York has managed to reduce its CV-19 numbers (and, as importantly, IMO, made those numbers credible) back to the point where some sort of “normal” life/economy can seem like an attainable goal.

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Greup  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:05:55pm

re: #145 sagehen

I read somewhere that the deathrate from Covid at the ICUs in Stockholm, Sweden, dropped from 30% in the beginning to 3% now. Tricks learned.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:08:11pm

re: #138 Nojay UK

I agree with all you said, and we’re not where we should be because the federal government failed in its duty. If we had leadership that was interested in efficiency and proper coordination of resources I have no doubt that testing would be more widespread and contact tracing would be workable. And the POTUS had info going back to November about COVID in China. Gahh it just sucks!

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:14:40pm

re: #18 Sir John Barron

Trump: What’s wrong with these hats? Where’s the eagle head?
Aide:
Trump: Let’s call them ‘limited edition’ or something, ONLY FOR PATRIOTS. Our people will buy anything.

clerk to boss “the canned rhubarb isn’t moving” (well duh)
boss: put up the sign
the sign: “sorry, only 2 to a customer”

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:17:25pm

omg

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:19:02pm

re: #48 teleskiguy

The Washington Football Team

*insert mascot here*

We play generic football

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:20:14pm

re: #58 A Three Hour Tour

The Washington Generics.

ah gmta

i know, i know, i should read ahead…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:21:18pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Jay C  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:24:29pm

re: #151 The Pie Overlord!

omg

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OMG indeed:

Not that I think Joe’s chances of actually winning Texas this year are all that great (I’m guessing that even if the TX GOP has to pull off an LBJ-1948-style 87-vote “win”, they will bust a gut trying), but that polling is, essentially, tied - even this far out from the election - ought to be giving Republicans serious agita (which they fully deserve: and worse!)…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:25:56pm
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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:27:28pm

re: #121 Eric The Fruit Bat

Vibes from the Fruit Bat Cave are emanating - even from the Petulant Persian, Ozzie:

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tell me that cat isnt louie:

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Dave In Austin  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:27:40pm

Fat Donny took 30 Seconds to start the campaign bullshit

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:28:50pm

re: #155 Jay C

OMG indeed:

Not that I think Joe’s chances of actually winning Texas this year are all that great (I’m guessing that even if the TX GOP has to pull off an LBJ-1948-style 87-vote “win”, they will bust a gut trying), but that polling is, essentially, tied - even this far out from the election - ought to be giving Republicans serious agita (which they fully deserve: and worse!)…

It would be awesome if Biden did win Texas though. Trump’s “mailed ballots fraud” excuse would be eviscerated, since the Texas GOP went to court to make damn sure most voters couldn’t vote by mail.

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mmmirele  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:29:05pm

Look for the next California hot spot to be … Redding.

Hundreds of worshipers, led by an organizer affiliated with a megachurch whose members believe they can heal the sick and raise the dead, gathered Wednesday at the Sundial Bridge in Redding, flouting mask-wearing orders and bans on large crowds.

Videos of the “Let us Worship” gathering show several hundred people singing in tightly packed groups below the bridge, one of Shasta County’s most popular tourist attractions. Few people were wearing masks.

The gathering wasn’t formally affiliated with Redding’s Bethel Church, whose members believe in faith healing. A church spokesman said the event was organized by Sean Feucht, a Christian musician and recent congressional candidate. Feucht produces music under Bethel Church’s record label.

And to give you an idea of what kind of craziness goes on at Bethel:

Late last year, hundreds of church members gathered in an attempt to resurrect a 2-year-old named Olive Heiligenthal, hours after the toddler had stopped breathing and died on Dec. 14. Church members gathered to sing, “Come alive/ Come alive/ Come alive, dry bones/ Awake, arise/ Inhale the light.” Thousands of people posted on Instagram with the hashtag #WakeUpOlive.

In October 2008, a Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry student moved to Washington and started a “dead-raising team” that worked with members of the local fire department to pray over bodies found on emergency calls, according to the Redding Record Searchlight.

sacbee.com

*drily* If Bethel Church’s leadership was opposed, they would have told Feucht to pull the plug on this. They didn’t. That says volumes.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:30:02pm

Hopefully this polling trends and means Trump has to sink money into what should have been a sure thing for a candidate who wasn’t so fucked up.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:31:26pm

Got Mary Trump’s book yesterday. One can actually feel sorry for Donald Trump the child, neglected and unloved, which helped turn him into the monster he is today.

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Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:32:08pm

I hated GW but I have no doubt that he would have been at least telling people to wear masks from the beginning.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:33:56pm

Sometimes I get a little glum. I signed up for FB groups for our town and for my condo community and went down a rabbit hole looking at folks’ pages to get a glimpse of the politics. Lots of very nice people whose pages reveal them to be strongly anti-BLM and very Blue Lives Matter. Also, the state GOP has done a great job on signage for state and congressional candidates while there is almost nothing from the Dems. But then I remember that social media is a poor reflection for on-the-ground realities. And that I already knew that a lot of the folks where I live are actually cops and that there is a strong blue-lives sentiment here.

So I get encouraged coming here. But also looking at polls that show as a state we are now light blue/Dem. Some of the nation’s biggest wingnuts live here in the “Live Free or Die” state. But they live largely in a few isolated pockets (the “lower my goddamn taxes” and ‘Murka! iii% pockets, mostly).

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:35:25pm

bloomberg:

“After a round of recriminations, the next two years are reasonably predictable: … There might be some talk about the long-term demographic challenges the party faces, but most will soon conclude that their main mistake was not being conservative enough. There will be no serious discussions within the party of the real problem: They can’t govern.”

“The reason this is easy to predict is because, as the party sees it, the Bob Dole Republicans in 1993-1994 and the Mitch McConnell Republicans in 2009-2010 were totally successful. Compromise is a trap, in this view; the way to recover is to oppose the Democrats flat-out.”

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bratwurst  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:36:55pm

I love that Trump is still confused by the fact that a virus nobody knew existed 7 months ago has more than one name.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:37:10pm

re: #165 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

bloomberg:

“After a round of recriminations, the next two years are reasonably predictable: … There might be some talk about the long-term demographic challenges the party faces, but most will soon conclude that their main mistake was not being conservative enough. There will be no serious discussions within the party of the real problem: They can’t govern.”

“The reason this is easy to predict is because, as the party sees it, the Bob Dole Republicans in 1993-1994 and the Mitch McConnell Republicans in 2009-2010 were totally successful. Compromise is a trap, in this view; the way to recover is to oppose the Democrats flat-out.”

That’s what they’ve been trying for years in California. It’s not going well.

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Jay C  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:37:50pm

re: #160 mmmirele

Late last year, hundreds of church members gathered in an attempt to resurrect a 2-year-old named Olive Heiligenthal, hours after the toddler had stopped breathing and died on Dec. 14. Church members gathered to sing, “Come alive/ Come alive/ Come alive, dry bones/ Awake, arise/ Inhale the light.” Thousands of people posted on Instagram with the hashtag #WakeUpOlive.

Sounds like part of the storyline of HBO’s “Perry Mason” mini-series (w/ Matthew Rhys): the dubious “media preacher” (the typically-excellent Tatiana Maslany) vowing to “raise” the dead child in a BFD public ceremony. And collecting big bucks for it in the meanwhile….

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:38:40pm

re: #165 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

bloomberg:

That’s why Democrats will have to do everything they can to win in 2022 and 2024 after winning 2020. Once that happens, the party will have to take a serious look at itself.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:40:04pm

re: #168 Jay C

Sounds like part of the storyline of HBO’s “Perry Mason” mini-series (w/ Matthew Rhys): the dubious “media preacher” (the typically-excellent Tatiana Maslany) vowing to “raise” the dead child in a BFD public ceremony. And collecting big bucks for it in the meanwhile….

According to their beliefs, that child is in heaven, and they want to drag it back? Don’t they remember what happened to Buffy?

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VegasGolfer  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:40:15pm

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:41:21pm

re: #162 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Got Mary Trump’s book yesterday. One can actually feel sorry for Donald Trump the child, neglected and unloved, which helped turn him into the monster he is today.

maybe

a lot of people have overcome difficult upbringings and turn out quite ok

how tough it must have been raised in a psychologically challenging, yet cushy one

when does he become responsible for his own thoughts and actions
self aware, inquisitive, curious, ?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:42:39pm

re: #169 Belafon

That’s why Democrats will have to do everything they can to win in 2022 and 2024 after winning 2020. Once that happens, the party will have to take a serious look at itself.

They’re becoming totally irrelevant in CA, and they’re just doubling down on the craziness. Hard to say what it would take for them to examine themselves.

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Jay C  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:44:38pm

re: #170 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

According to their beliefs, that child is in heaven, and they want to drag it back? Don’t they remember what happened to Buffy?

Yes, of course they do.
Buffy was renewed for another two seasons….

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:45:13pm
President Donald Trump on Thursday moved to cancel the Jacksonville, Florida, portions of next month’s Republican National Convention, citing the threat of the coronavirus.
“I told my team it’s time to cancel the Jacksonville, Florida, component of the GOP convention,” Trump said at a White House briefing on the coronavirus.

bwaaaa haaaaa!

Congratulations Florida!

cnbc.com

Everything Trump touches dies……

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:45:19pm

re: #165 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

bloomberg:

Rubin:

Two defining features of the Republican Party were on display Thursday. Together, they are proof that the flaws of today’s GOP are not limited to President Trump and reason enough to send the party in its current manifestation into the political wilderness…

The culture of bullying and the disdain for others is not an incidental part of the GOP; it is central to its identity.

A party that disdains government should not run for office. A party that celebrates rudeness, incivility, meanness and bigotry should be shunned. Rehabilitation for the GOP? It’s impossible to imagine, given its cast of characters.

washingtonpost.com

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Teddy's Person  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:45:22pm

re: #170 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

According to their beliefs, that child is in heaven, and they want to drag it back? Don’t they remember what happened to Buffy?

Maslany’s character went rogue, just like Willow.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:45:52pm

Washington Post Alert!

TRUMP CANCELS JACKSONVILLE PORTION OF GOP CONVENTION

washingtonpost.com

IT’S A FUCKING SHIT SHOW!

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bratwurst  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:46:41pm

Nice to hear Trump talked to Putin and Mohammed bin Salman yesterday. Maybe he can squeeze some of our allies into his busy schedule as well.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:47:05pm

re: #174 Jay C

Yes, of course they do.
Buffy was renewed for another two seasons….

I read today that Perry Mason was renewed for season two.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:47:19pm

re: #178 🌹UOJB!

Washington Post Alert!

TRUMP CANCELS JACKSONVILLE PORTION OF GOP CONVENTION

Thanks for all of that free planning and legwork though Florida!!

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:47:39pm

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:48:49pm

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

Sometimes I get a little glum. I signed up for FB groups for our town and for my condo community and went down a rabbit hole looking at folks’ pages to get a glimpse of the politics. Lots of very nice people whose pages reveal them to be strongly anti-BLM and very Blue Lives Matter. Also, the state GOP has done a great job on signage for state and congressional candidates while there is almost nothing from the Dems. But then I remember that social media is a poor reflection for on-the-ground realities. And that I already knew that a lot of the folks where I live are actually cops and that there is a strong blue-lives sentiment here.

So I get encouraged coming here. But also looking at polls that show as a state we are now light blue/Dem. Some of the nation’s biggest wingnuts live here in the “Live Free or Die” state. But they live largely in a few isolated pockets (the “lower my goddamn taxes” and ‘Murka! iii% pockets, mostly).

I’m still seeing a lot of doubling down from people on Facebook who I know are conservative and I suspect to a degree are simply looking for excuses to point to.

One posted a photo where someone had vandalized a cemetery and spray painted “BLM” and “Black Lives Matter” on tombstones and tipped others over. These pictures are accompanied by a screed about how Black Lives Matter people are all terrorists attempting to destroy America.

A second commented that a Philadelphia DA “was anti-law enforcement and that the police hated him” since the DA had said that if Trump sent federal agents into Philadelphia and they committed crimes they’d be arrested.
(pennlive.com)

These people are not operating in a vacuum, but they also seem to be a bit obstinate and oblivious about what is really going on out there.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:49:04pm

Coming up next…Trump Cancels GOP Convention And Proclaims Himself God’s Emperor For America

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:49:53pm

re: #175 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

bwaaaa haaaaa!

Congratulations Florida!

cnbc.com

Everything Trump touches dies……

wow did they ever eff that up

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:50:08pm

re: #184 🌹UOJB!

Coming up next…Trump Cancels GOP Convention And Proclaims Himself God’s Emperor For America

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Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:53:00pm

I must go to Free Republic and see how Trump’s handling of Jacksonville was the most cunning 5-dimensional plan ever.

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:53:06pm

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:53:17pm

re: #165 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

bloomberg:

In the short term, this will likely work. The GOP will probably gain control of the House in the 2022 midterms, unless Democratic voters turn out in unusually large numbers.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:53:34pm

re: #185 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

wow did they ever eff that up

NO CONVENTION BUT WE NEED ALL OF YOUR KIDS IN SCHOOL ASAP!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:54:35pm
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Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:54:50pm

re: #178 🌹UOJB!

Washington Post Alert!

TRUMP CANCELS JACKSONVILLE PORTION OF GOP CONVENTION

washingtonpost.com

IT’S A FUCKING SHIT SHOW!

He fell for the deMOnnRATT hoax!!!!11!!111lllity

Edited for proper font.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:56:08pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:56:40pm

re: #163 Amory Blaine

I hated GW but I have no doubt that he would have been at least telling people to wear masks from the beginning.

Dubya was actually worried about the possibility of a pandemic.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:57:17pm

re: #172 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

maybe

a lot of people have overcome difficult upbringings and turn out quite ok

how tough it must have been raised in a psychologically challenging, yet cushy one

when does he become responsible for his own thoughts and actions
self aware, inquisitive, curious, ?

No matter the material circumstances, an unloved child suffers. I’m not saying I feel sympathy for the current Trump; I’m talking about the little boy in the 50s whose parents neglected him.

196
stpaulbear  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:57:17pm

So now that Trump has cancelled Jacksonville, is Charlotte NC going Oh No You Won’t!

197
mmmirele  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:57:19pm

Speaking of idiot religious groups, here’s megachurch Fellowship Church run by Ed Young the younger in Texas. They had their youth camp and damn if it wasn’t a clusterfuck. This was the video played at the beginning of the camp and how the young people responded.

And this was the result.

Un. fucking. believable.

198
JC1  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:57:35pm

re: #129 Eric The Fruit Bat

The USA long passed 10% of its population exposed to SARS-CoV2. Will we hit 20% by election day?

I don’t think we’re anywhere near 10%. NYC was around 20%, NY State was around 10% on average. We’ll hit 10% once there’s 300k dead.

199
unproven innocence  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:57:54pm

re: #110 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s really surprising that no company has come up with an at-home COVID-19 test-kit that’s cheap, quick and accurate.

See here: MedCram, Update 98

Coronavirus Pandemic Update 98: At Home COVID-19 Testing - A Possible Breakthrough

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:58:09pm

re: #183 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I’m still seeing a lot of doubling down from people on Facebook who I know are conservative and I suspect to a degree are simply looking for excuses to point to.

One posted a photo where someone had vandalized a cemetery and spray painted “BLM” and “Black Lives Matter” on tombstones and tipped others over. These pictures are accompanied by a screed about how Black Lives Matter people are all terrorists attempting to destroy America.

A second commented that a Philadelphia DA “was anti-law enforcement and that the police hated him” since the DA had said that if Trump sent federal agents into Philadelphia and they committed crimes they’d be arrested.
(pennlive.com)

These people are not operating in a vacuum, but they also seem to be a bit obstinate and oblivious about what is really going on out there.

I haven’t seen the photo you mention, but a clip of “antifa” tackling one of the camo-clad guys in Portland with the usual “see what these domestic terrorists do!”, are not uncommon.

Oops, here comes the edge of the storm we were just warned about (“expect vehicle damage from hail and damage from high winds and downed trees”; hope we have power tonight.)

201
Sherlock Hound  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:58:13pm

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

Everybody I know from NH barring yourself are economic refugees from Massachusetts who’ve blamed their travails on TAXACHUSETTS! I loved being lectured by libertarians for 30 years.

202
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:59:10pm

re: #181 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Thanks for all of that free planning and legwork though Florida!!

And Jacksonville breathes a sigh of relief.

203
Decatur Deb  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:59:25pm

re: #187 Decatur Deb

I must go to Free Republic and see how Trump’s handling of Jacksonville was the most cunning 5-dimensional plan ever.

Ah.

“Stupid cave-in, if true. Offer all participants HCQ, AZT and Zn prophylactically, starting one week prior. NO ONE will get sick!”

204
Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:59:37pm

re: #108 Amory Blaine

The term “housewife” may have some relevance today, but largely in america it is an antiquated notion. Of the families that I know, if there is one able to stay home, is because they can’t find work (as with my wife in the great recession, her demographic (minority female over 50) had the worst time finding work out of all demographics), or they’re disabled. I’ll bet there are a whole bunch of people under 30 that never heard the term. Just being home doesn’t make you a housewife either. It has to be some kind of social norm and enough affluence to willingly stay home. My wife would never call herself a housewife. She wanted to work, but could not so I would never catagorize her situation as “voluntary and desireable”. Of course, I’m excluding the people who do it for religious and other reasons. Trump of course, uses the term solely as a dogwhistle.

205
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 23, 2020 • 2:59:52pm

re: #203 Decatur Deb

What. The. Fuck.

The stupid, it burns.

206
Amory Blaine  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:02:25pm

Jacksonville dodged a bullet all right.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:02:49pm

Strong commentary from Dan Zak:

America is sick. Still sick. The fever spikes, abates, returns. The shortness of breath lingers. America is waiting in virtual bread lines, listening to bad jazz, on hold with the unemployment office. America is strewn with the glass shards of Starbucks windows, busted by protesters, and bullied by unidentifiable agents of the government. America, barefoot and in Brooks Brothers, is defending its marble palazzo with an AR-15 rifle.

America is spray-painted with the faces of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd, on bollards and plywood and mailboxes. America is trying to keep the kids occupied, and fed, and learning, and sociable without socializing. America is in the middle of a public health wildfire, an economic sinkhole and an earthquake over racial injustice — and the president of the United States is having to reiterate that he took a cognitive exam and correctly answered that, yes, the drawing of the large animal is, in fact, an elephant…

Perhaps we ignored our preexisting conditions for too long…

The contagion doesn’t just spread because of proximity or air droplets; it feeds on disparity in housing, insurance, transportation, wages, child care, food security. Our current failure is built on previous failures.

washingtonpost.com

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:03:13pm

re: #93 Teddy’s Person

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Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:03:20pm

re: #195 NO SMOCKING GUN!

No matter the material circumstances, an unloved child suffers. I’m not saying I feel sympathy for the current Trump; I’m talking about the little boy in the 50s whose parents neglected him.

fair enough. some childhoods suck.

at the same time
some of us grow up in spite of our parents
some of us grow up because of them

he’s 74 now. when’s he gonna?

210
sagehen  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:06:57pm

re: #170 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

According to their beliefs, that child is in heaven, and they want to drag it back? Don’t they remember what happened to Buffy?

what, you think any of them are fans of a show with lesbian witches as sympathetic main characters?

211
Hecuba's daughter  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:09:08pm

re: #129 Eric The Fruit Bat

The USA long passed 10% of its population exposed to SARS-CoV2. Will we hit 20% by election day?

Do we know for a fact that 10% have had Covid-19? There have been 4,000,000 cases and the theory is there are 10 times as many actual cases as confirmed cases, but isn’t that speculation for now, at least until we have a reliable antibody test?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:09:39pm

re: #200 Barefoot Grin

I haven’t seen the photo you mention, but a clip of “antifa” tackling one of the camo-clad guys in Portland with the usual “see what these domestic terrorists do!”, are not uncommon.

Oops, here comes the edge of the storm we were just warned about (“expect vehicle damage from hail and damage from high winds and downed trees”; hope we have power tonight.)

Here’s one site that has the set of them.
truthorfiction.com

213
Barefoot Grin  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:09:42pm

re: #201 Sherlock Hound

Everybody I know from NH barring yourself are economic refugees from Massachusetts who’ve blamed their travails on TAXACHUSETTS! I loved being lectured by libertarians for 30 years.

Amherst/Bedford/Hampstead/Chester—yes!

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:10:08pm

re: #197 mmmirele

Speaking of idiot religious groups, here’s megachurch Fellowship Church run by Ed Young the younger in Texas. They had their youth camp and damn if it wasn’t a clusterfuck. This was the video played at the beginning of the camp and how the young people responded.

[Embedded content]

Un. fucking. believable.

Nope. It’s believable. This is what happens when a church worships Ayn AS IN MINE Rand!

215
Jebediah, RBG  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:10:25pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, this sucks. My dad just called and said my stepmom, who has been fighting cancer for five years now, was taken to hospital in an Ambulance this morning.

It’s NOT Covid (they were both tested). We don’t know much yet. He’s also heartbroken that because of the restrictions she can’t have any visitors, including him.

Good juju appreciated.

Launching as much of it as I can

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 23, 2020 • 3:15:33pm

re: #209 Welcome to The Imbleachment (dangerman)

fair enough. some childhoods suck.

at the same time
some of us grow up in spite of our parents
some of us grow up because of them

he’s 74 now. when’s he gonna?

Never. He is what he is.

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austin_blue  Jul 23, 2020 • 5:46:28pm

re: #197 mmmirele

Speaking of idiot religious groups, here’s megachurch Fellowship Church run by Ed Young the younger in Texas. They had their youth camp and damn if it wasn’t a clusterfuck. This was the video played at the beginning of the camp and how the young people responded.

[Embedded content]

Un. fucking. believable.

Gohmert Country. Believable.


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