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BlueGrl21  Jul 30, 2020 • 6:54:38pm

Donald Trump can kiss my ass. He can’t move the election. He can go to hell.

Good evening, Lizardim.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jul 30, 2020 • 6:54:53pm

Make good trouble! VOTE!

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 6:55:37pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 30, 2020 • 6:58:41pm

I’m so old, I remember when this country was returning to greatness.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 6:59:25pm
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:02:22pm
When LaShandra Smith-Rayfield saw a picture circulating on social media of a group of white people with a Confederate flag beach towel hanging on a fence behind them at her local beach in Evanston, Illinois, she decided to go check it out. When she found the group, still with their symbol of hate hanging proudly behind them, it turned into a roughly 10-minute standoff that’s gotten more than 143,000 views on Facebook within a day. Because Smith-Rayfield was not backing down.

“That flag right there is my swastika. You put it up on this beach, yes, I’m going to come out every single freakin’ time to tell you they lost the damn war. This is the United States of America, not the Confederacy of America,” she said. While the group did take down their towel so it wasn’t hanging out for all to see, they weren’t apologizing or acknowledging the racist damage they had done, and she wasn’t letting them off the hook for it as long as what they were doing meant “I can’t feel comfortable in my own neighborhood.”

dailykos.com

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:03:53pm

2018: Galen Center USC vs Arizona

If you are a college basketball fan Galen Center is an underrated palace. USC puts on a good show with dancers, contests and a band in addition to the basketball

Good parking and concessions for a college venue
Very nice people running things. I hope we can return someday

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:06:41pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:08:13pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:08:59pm

Ammon Bundy supports Black Lives Matter and defunding the police. I guess it shows he’s a libertarian rather than a fascist.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:09:55pm

re: #9 Dread Pirate Ron

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Now imagine millions of kids in school in a couple of weeks. My kids are staying home.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:10:38pm

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:11:32pm

re: #11 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Now imagine millions of kids in school in a couple of weeks. My kids are staying home.

Minnesota announced that the state is going to work with each individual district to determine the best course of action. I have every expectation that, as one of the COVID hotspots in our fair state (thanks to the high proportion of maskholes concentrated in this area), we will be told to have school entirely virtually this year.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:12:06pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:13:03pm

re: #12 lawhawk

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:13:43pm

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retired cynic  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:14:14pm

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:14:16pm

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:14:40pm

Peak derpitude: this comment on a friend’s FB thread about Obama’s masterful eulogy today:

Makes a political statement at a solemn occasion….unreal.

Had this guy ever even heard of who John Lewis was?

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:14:42pm

re: #12 lawhawk

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:14:54pm

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:15:59pm

Think of how many slogans and ‘messages’ they’ve rolled out and abandoned so far…

They’re out of ideas. They can’t even spend all that money they’ve scammed from losers.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:17:24pm
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danarchy  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:17:56pm

This whole internet backlash thing is starting to get a little ridiculous. Domino’s tries to run a cute little promo that harms nobody and somehow they had to apologize for it?

bbc.com

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:23:15pm

re: #20 jaunte

It’s the sound of one hand venting with great vengeance and furious anger and way too many typos. That bit offends my sensibilities the most. Will need to cut back on the big posts.

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sagehen  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:24:39pm

re: #25 lawhawk

It’s the sound of one hand venting with great vengeance and furious anger and way too many typos. That bit offends my sensibilities the most. Will need to cut back on the big posts.

I thought all men already knew how to use a computer with only one hand…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:25:25pm

re: #25 lawhawk

It’s the sound of one hand venting with great vengeance and furious anger and way too many typos. That bit offends my sensibilities the most. Will need to cut back on the big posts.

Please tell me you really hurt you arm by breaking it over a non-mask wearing Qanon/confed flag waving/trump supporter. It’s Ok to lie.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:26:08pm

re: #27 I Would Prefer Not To

I wish. Mundane shit.

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bratwurst  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:26:49pm
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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:27:04pm

Dersh is in some shit, y’all.

Now that I think of it, he’s been pretty quiet lately. All those threats to sue seem to have gone silent.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:28:15pm

re: #24 danarchy

This whole internet backlash thing is starting to get a little ridiculous. Domino’s tries to run a cute little promo that harms nobody and somehow they had to apologize for it?

bbc.com

Not all Karens.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:29:33pm

re: #19 i(m)p(each)sos

Peak derpitude: this comment on a friend’s FB thread about Obama’s masterful eulogy today:

Had this guy ever even heard of who John Lewis was?

You should post a link to the letter Lewis had the NYT posthumously post.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:30:11pm

Speaking of pizza, and getting back to the orange shambling mound of garbage…

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EPR-radar  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:31:53pm

re: #30 makeitstop

Dersh is in some shit, y’all.

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Now that I think of it, he’s been pretty quiet lately. All those threats to sue seem to have gone silent.

Interesting. Let’s have all this Epstein pedo crap come out, and every perp pay the price, no matter how rich, famous, or well-connected they are. Also no matter which party they belong to, since such things need to be said explicitly in this degenerate age.

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CleverToad  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:32:03pm

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:32:22pm

I just saw an ad, and if I could afford one, the Toyota Rav4 Hybrid gets 38mpg highway, 41mpg city.

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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:32:49pm
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makeitstop  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:33:59pm

re: #34 EPR-radar

Interesting. Let’s have all this Epstein pedo crap come out, and every perp pay the price, no matter how rich, famous, or well-connected they are. Also no matter which party they belong to, since such things need to be said explicitly in this degenerate age.

Agree. There’s a reference to Clinton in that thread.

Let the chips fall.

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William Lewis  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:39:08pm
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retired cynic  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:39:15pm

I have been enjoying some Hauser tonight: one of the 2Cellos: Stjepan Hauser. He has been doing Alone, Together internet concerts during COVID-19. This one is over 26 minutes long, and it features some of his favorite music themes. It is set in the old town Dubrovnik, Croatia, with Hauser seated on the old fort facing the sea. It is just stunning. So of course, I had to go on and listen to some more. Love the cello.

HAUSER: ‘Alone, Together’ from Dubrovnik

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:43:19pm

re: #10 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Ammon Bundy supports Black Lives Matter and defunding the police. I guess it shows he’s a libertarian rather than a fascist.

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Pre-coronavirus, Bundy made statements in support of immigration. So — yes — he does appear to be more serious about libertarianism than any of members of the Republican Party who claim that mantle.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:44:05pm

Here comes the Right Wing screaming “censorship” in 3…2…1…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:47:19pm

re: #42 DodgerFan1988

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Here comes the Right Wing screaming “censorship” in 3…2…1…

he wasn’t kicked off twitter, he was Parlered.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:49:02pm

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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Jay C  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:49:03pm

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:49:17pm
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retired cynic  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:52:11pm

The same friend who sent me the link to the Hauser concert sent this. I often get Lunas here, but this is one of the best images. Mine are so often battered.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:52:12pm
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lawhawk  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:52:13pm

re: #3 Belafon

so needed that!

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dangerman  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:56:23pm

re: #23 Patricia Kayden

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“is causing”? as in now?

it’s July
how many schools are supposed to be open?
affecting how many students?

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2020 • 7:59:04pm
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garzooma  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:00:27pm

re: #30 makeitstop

Dersh is in some shit, y’all.

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“Indeed, Dershowitz helped negotiate an agreement that provided immunity from federal prosecution in the Southern District of Florida not only to Epstein, but also to ‘any potential co-conspirators of Epstein’”

According to Alexander Acosta, the prosecutor Dershowitz was negotiating with, Dershowitz also basically tried to blackmail prosecutors on the case. Acosta wrote in a 2011 letter: “Defense counsel investigated individual prosecutors and their families, looking for personal peccadilloes that may provide a basis for disqualification.”

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dangerman  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:07:10pm

re: #51 jaunte

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not when he’s got a sycophantic R senate

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bratwurst  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:11:13pm

Um…sure!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:12:00pm

re: #54 bratwurst

Um…sure!

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Bullshit

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:12:22pm

re: #54 bratwurst

A little Clorox every morning should fix that right up.

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dangerman  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:15:26pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:22:33pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:22:35pm

re: #57 dangerman

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Hard decision to make of which Pulpit Pimp I want to select for the Vegas Pulpit Pimp Dead Pool!

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dangerman  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:22:46pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:24:00pm

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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dangerman  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:24:31pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:24:47pm

So I ask a certain relative if they still believe the Q shit now that it turns out that ol’ Dersh is implicated in molesting kids.

Silence.

Just waiting for Trump to get named and check back with the Qbots!

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EPR-radar  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:27:04pm

re: #59 🌹UOJB!

Hard decision to make of which Pulpit Pimp I want to select for the Vegas Pulpit Pimp Dead Pool!

How about all of them?

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teleskiguy  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:30:08pm
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:31:43pm
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:33:18pm

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:33:23pm
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:35:11pm
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:36:09pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:39:59pm
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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:50:12pm

We watched this movie last weekend:

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:51:04pm
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plansbandc  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:52:29pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:55:07pm

Frantic calls to the Oval Office tonight as Alan realizes being ostracized from Martha’s Vineyard could be the least of his concerns in the near future. “WE HAD A DEAL!!!” can be heard from any point in the WH.

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jaunte  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:56:33pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2020 • 8:56:52pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:29:28pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:33:32pm

re: #12 lawhawk

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:33:50pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:41:26pm

re: #80 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Speaking of voting the City Commissioners called me the other day and asked me if I wanted to work in the fall election. I have talked to anyone else yet regarding the matter. With the COVID numbers still going up I am wary of working in an enclosed area for 13 hours. I also have no idea where I will be working in the city. I will be talking to my neighbors and my ward leader this weekend about it.

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ckkatz  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:44:28pm

Just looking at the Pence accident reports. Apparently the motorcycle escort accident happened on Rt 837 along the Monongahela (‘Mon’) River. Just south of Wilmerding (no kidding) and just east of Kennywood Park, which was open (Pittsburgh joke). The roads in that area used to be fairly crappy. I suspect that they have not improved in the decades since.

By the way, the Turtle Creek-Kennywood area is where Braddock’s Defeat (1755) occurred. Before the area was dredged for barge traffic there used to be a ford just east of Turtle Creek. It was just after crossing that ford and just before Turtle Creek, that the French and Native American forces attacked Braddock’s column. Supposedly there is a small monument that marks the spot.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:47:36pm

re: #81 PhillyPretzel

Speaking of voting the City Commissioners called me the other day and asked me if I wanted to work in the fall election. I have talked to anyone else yet regarding the matter. With the COVID numbers still going up I am wary of working in an enclosed area for 13 hours. I also have no idea where I will be working in the city. I will be talking to my neighbors and my ward leader this weekend about it.

Maybe get yourself a face shield. I don’t know who is going to get out and do it, but we are going to need a lot of people working the polling places.

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Belafon  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:47:50pm
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ckkatz  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:51:13pm

re: #47 retired cynic

Beautiful picture and moth.

It reminded me of this song.

I’m not into the anime art, but here is a version of the song Hijo de Luna (Son of the Moon) by the singer Loona. (Great fast/Spanish waltz)

Loona- Hijo de la Luna

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William Lewis  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:53:26pm

re: #82 ckkatz

Just looking at the Pence accident reports. Apparently the motorcycle escort accident happened on Rt 837 along the Monongahela (‘Mon’) River. Just south of Wilmerding (no kidding) and just east of Kennywood Park, which was open (Pittsburgh joke). The roads in that area used to be fairly crappy. I suspect that they have not improved in the decades since.

By the way, the Turtle Creek-Kennywood area is where Braddock’s Defeat (1755) occurred. Before the area was dredged for barge traffic there used to be a ford just east of Turtle Creek. It was just after crossing that ford and just before Turtle Creek, that the French and Native American forces attacked Braddock’s column. Supposedly there is a small monument that marks the spot.

Back in 1975, the family vacation was by car from Wisconsin to Virginia and back. One of the many sights along that way was the day after the AF Museum in Dayton - Ft Necessity. Braddock’s grave, which is marked, is near there. I don’t know (remember?) the ambush site. I’d have paid more attention now than then to that detail.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:53:43pm

re: #83 Belafon

That is why I have to talk to neighbors and my ward leader. If they are giving us some sort of PPE I would like to know about it and another big thing for me is location. If they are going to leave me in my neighborhood that would be good. If not I cannot do it.

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ckkatz  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:56:55pm

re: #81 PhillyPretzel

You’re very smart to be pro-active.

The pandemic is probably not going to get better over the fall and winter. And it is very wise to identify boundaries and best practices sooner rather than later.

Good luck!

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cat-tikvah  Jul 30, 2020 • 9:58:51pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

I’ve been fantasizing a Caligula ending since November 2016.

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ckkatz  Jul 30, 2020 • 10:13:26pm

re: #86 William Lewis

Sounds like it was a long trip. Particularly if done before the Interstate system was completed.

Iirc, the battle site was partially in some housing from the early 1900’s and partially in a US Steel mill. Fort Necessity and the Bushy Run Battlefield were probably much more interesting.

Interestingly, the battle was a meeting engagement rather than an ambush. Braddock’s column was systematically advancing along a trail in a very organized manner. It had a well organized Advanced Guard in front and flanking units on the sides of the column.

The French put some grenadiers and regular infantry in the front of a column and tried a last ditch desperate attack straight up trail into the Brit Advanced Guard. The Advanced Guard massacred them.

The Native Americans and Canadian Militia, who were following the French regulars, decided that they were not interested in trying that and ran up along the sides of the column sniping at it. The dense column, trained in European warfare, couldn’t deploy in the woods and once the column flankers were driven back, the column was screwed.

Apparently many of the Brit flankers were American Militia Companies. Braddock, trained in European warfare didn’t like their open skirmish order and their flexible movements.

Rumor has it that he rode up to one American militia unit and yelling at them to stand fast, used his sword to cut down a private in order get the unit to close order and stand fast. Unfortunately for Braddock, that private’s brother was right behind Braddock with a loaded musket. And ended Braddock’s career right then and there.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2020 • 10:23:21pm

re: #84 Belafon

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Funny, that’s not how I remember March going. I remember the folks who now advise people to wear a mask looking at the feeding frenzy and saying that stores not only needed to impose per-person limits on essential items, but that government at all levels needed to get its shit together to organize supplies of said items so people weren’t searching stores in vain.

The former took weeks/months to happen as stores voluntarily imposed their limits, but the latter was totally on an ad-hoc basis and really showed just how shitty the whole idea that “private charities can replace government ‘hand-outs’” is as a talking point.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2020 • 10:30:05pm

We can now positively state that the Trump campaign is no longer a crash waiting to happen.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 30, 2020 • 10:32:52pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2020 • 10:35:47pm

What I DO remember from March is assholes whining now about masks assuring us at the time that Trump was right, the whole thing was a “hoax” but even if it was real it would all be over once things started warming up because look how flu season always ends in the spring. So there was no need for closures, no need to take precautions, this whole thing will burn itself out by summer and the death toll won’t even get higher than 61,000. So all those libruls who are “social distancing” and staying home are just hurting the economy to make Trump look bad.

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Sherlock Hound  Jul 30, 2020 • 10:49:51pm

re: #85 ckkatz

Nice. It gets a lot of play on Chante France, which is how I know it.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 30, 2020 • 10:52:26pm

Send his ass to the Hague.

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Targetpractice  Jul 30, 2020 • 10:54:21pm

re: #96 DodgerFan1988

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Send his ass to the Hague.

“Plans to retire.” IOW, he’s getting out because he sees this shitshow’s expiration date is fast approaching.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 30, 2020 • 11:03:56pm

re: #97 Targetpractice

“Plans to retire.” IOW, he’s getting out because he sees this shitshow’s expiration date is fast approaching.

As we draw closer to November 3rd, I wouldn’t at all be surprised if we start seeing more of these “retirements”.

It’d be a textbook example of rats fleeing the sinking ship. Of course, I expect there will be some rats, like Stephen Miller for instance, who will probably choose to go down with the ship.

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piratedan  Jul 30, 2020 • 11:13:54pm

re: #96 DodgerFan1988

in a way, I find that option especially appealing where the entire world can actually judge this administration for all of the heinous shit that they’ve pulled… I suspect that they’ve already freely admitted to violating international law when it comes to asylum seekers, plus their treatment of journalists (Kashoggi) and all of the dark money that they swim in and with the latest revelations about the crowd that they hang out with also being involved in the international sex trade… in a way, I would be happy to allow the civilized world sit in judgement on them. It would serve two purposes, showing that we’re a nation that intends to rejoin the community of abiding by law and order and showing a new position of admitting that we’re just as culpable as any other country and setting an example that we want to be a partner, not simply in charge.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 30, 2020 • 11:23:19pm

Moving along at a nice clip

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Jay C  Jul 30, 2020 • 11:33:47pm

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

As we draw closer to November 3rd, I wouldn’t at all be surprised if we start seeing more of these “retirements”.

It’d be a textbook example of rats fleeing the sinking ship. Of course, I expect there will be some rats, like Stephen Miller for instance, who will probably choose to go down with the ship.

Naaah: even as the SS Trumptanic heads on its way down to Davy Jones’ Locker, a couple of rats will still be floating away on the wreckage, and Miller is likely to be one of them. Not sure IIRC, but didn’t he come to the WH through some existing Wingnut Welfare connection? Which is still likely to be there to provide his evil ass with some sinecure?

Also, I noted how Mr. Albence is yet another “Acting” head of yet another Federal agency: don’t these guys have to join SAG at some point….?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 30, 2020 • 11:35:20pm

Holding a Black Lives Matter Sign in America’s Most Racist Town

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2020 • 12:02:14am

It’s time.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 31, 2020 • 12:21:52am

re: #103 Dread Pirate Ron

I had forgotten what the show was about, so I’m going back and skimming through the first season before I look at the new season.

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Cheechako  Jul 31, 2020 • 12:24:43am

Wake up (from the Lincoln Project)

Wake Up

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 31, 2020 • 12:43:36am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jul 31, 2020 • 1:40:45am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 2:05:08am

re: #107 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The local airport in Ostrava is named after him. Nice selection.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 2:37:58am

re: #80 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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we don’t stand in line at the grocery waitong for 6 hours

hardware stores aren’t all closed by the state leaving just one store in the area to serve 600,000 people all on the same day

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 2:48:14am

Michael Steele re Herman cain
( remember him? ex rnc chair)

The reality of it is for those who don’t think this is serious, that those who think this is some made-up China virus that was imported into the country,” said Steele. “You know, live in that bubble and you will die in that bubble. And that’s all that can be said.”

Folks, we cannot, we cannot stop you from being stupid. We put the information out there,” Steele continued. “We’ve tried to educate and inform. We’ve got the best and brightest scientists in the country that have been summarily dismissed by this administration and particularly this president.”

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 2:54:21am

the sun sentinel op ed too DeSantis

“We’re dying here.

with each passing day, COVID-19 continues to careen out of control in Florida. Your daily upbeat message is hopelessly at odds with what Floridians are going through. You make it sound like everything is headed in the right direction. But it’s not.

79% of Floridians support a mask requirement, including 60% of Republicans. if that’s not a mandate, what is?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 3:54:15am

Hong Kong postpones elections for a year ‘over virus concerns’

“What’s good for Xi is good for Thee!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:02:33am

re: #109 dangerman

If we can stand in line at a grocery store or hardware store, we can stand in line at the polls to vote.

do we have to go there?

if the store is too crowded, you can go to another one or come back at another time

YOU CAN SHOP BY MAIL

the right to shop is not guaranteed by the Constitution nor do your shopping choices play a role in determining who will run government

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:03:41am

re: #87 PhillyPretzel

That is why I have to talk to neighbors and my ward leader. If they are giving us some sort of PPE I would like to know about it and another big thing for me is location. If they are going to leave me in my neighborhood that would be good. If not I cannot do it.

With our numbers rising rapidly, I will not volunteer to be a Dem poll watcher in one of our “problem” counties. At our age that’s too close to a suicide mission, and the Alabama results from my usual perch in the firehouse are foregone. We will vote by mail if the option survives GOP rodent romance, but we’ll vote in person if we have to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:08:36am

The Trump strategy seems at this point to undermine, sabotage or discredit the entire election process so he can claim that he did not lose.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:09:44am

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

The local airport in Ostrava is named after him. Nice selection.

at least it is not named after Franz Kafka

Prague’s Kafka International Named Most Alienating Airport

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Greup  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:13:11am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Its almost like they are trolling Trump. Any bad press is a small price to pay to fuel the chaotic behavior of the POTUS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:17:17am

re: #117 Greup

Its almost like they are trolling Trump. Any bad press is a small price to pay to fuel the chaotic behavior of the POTUS.

That was definitely done to make Trump look like an even bigger dick.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:18:33am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:25:06am

re: #119 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:25:12am

re: #119 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Joe Biden is an intelligent, competent & humane leader. When the rest of the world sees American liberals tweeting that Joe Biden isn’t exciting, we look at you as if there’s a plane on its way to rescue you from a warzone and you’re complaining there won’t be wine on the flight.

One reason our media go along with Trump and coddle his excesses is that he is ratings gold: he provides them with a 24/7 political reality/crime/sex/scandal show that starts out each morning with outrageous tweets and then goes on to some former aide being sentenced, some outrageous statement at a rally, some political gaffe with a foreign leader, etc…

They have no interest in seeing him replaced with someone more competent but also less exciting…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:51:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 4:54:59am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

How many times has “Trump shouldn’t be taken literally” been declared?

Whew. Journalists. So Painful.

Taking Maggie Haberman as a journalist is also dangerous

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:01:29am

re: #123 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Taking Maggy Haberman as a journalist is also dangerous

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:07:34am

he found another Black friend to infect

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:12:22am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

he found another Black friend to infect

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:14:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:15:45am

MAGA!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:17:17am

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

The word CLAPTRAP, meaning ‘nonsense’, originally referred to a throwaway catchphrase or slogan, intended only to win applause from an audience.

the pre-Internet version of “clickbait”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:18:31am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump is running the country like a business.

One of his casinos.

So is he announcing plans on how to contend with this crisis or just tweeting to his base?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:19:29am
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Florida Panhandler  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:20:36am

re: #41 Hecuba’s daughter

Pre-coronavirus, Bundy made statements in support of immigration. So — yes — he does appear to be more serious about libertarianism than any of members of the Republican Party who claim that mantle.

The real irony is that the Libertarian dream can only result in authoritarianism at its endgame. Whether power is wielded by warlords or crime bosses, the vacant spaces will be filled quickly by those who seek authority over others by any means possible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:21:45am

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

It turns out that completely ignoring a pandemic and having no plan to stop it is bad for the economy

The spin is that Liberal Panic led to this, not the disease itself, and that Dr Fauci is hiding reports on how truly effective hydrochloroquaxine really is because he is a tool of Big Pharma.

Did we mention that WHO and CDC are distributing covid-infected masks like smallpox blankets to Red States?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:22:17am

re: #112 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hong Kong postpones elections for a year ‘over virus concerns’

“What’s good for Xi is good for Thee!”

Hong Kong will never have elections again.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:23:14am

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:23:19am

hi

In local Covid news, 12 new cases were reported in the last two days in the Panhandle, bringing the total to 428, of which 63 are active.

There is no change in the number of deaths (six).

Women and girls remain 2/3 of cases.

More restaurants in the Scottsbluff area have shut down through August due to Covid appearing amongst the employees.

There is an article today from a travel agent in Scottsbluff who speaks about the industry, saying it appears that nothing will be happening until 2021. She notes that airlines have cut most flights, making it difficult for people who need to get one.

An amendment to delete a designation for Indigenous People’s Day was defeated.

My useless senator Steve Erdman voted Aye (to delete the amendment).

The vote was Aye-6, Nay-25, Present not voting (they were in the lobby but prepared to save the amendment if needed)-11, Excused from voting-7.

All six Aye votes were Republicans.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:25:52am

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:26:06am

Yup, husband of an old college buddy of mind was in a car accident near Tucson, is in the hospital on a respirator (due to broken ribs).

Sucky year.

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John Hughes  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:27:40am

re: #134 GlutenFreeJesus

Hong Kong will never have elections again.

Hong Kong has never had what any democratic country would recognise as elections. The system left in place by the British when they left was in no way a real democracy.

What Hong Kong is losing is civil society and the rule of law, not democracy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:32:58am

Omaha company seeks volunteers for COVID-19 vaccine trial (Omaha World-Herald)

The vaccine is the subject of a large clinical trial that launched Monday. The trial is intended to determine whether the vaccine, developed by the National Institutes of Health and the biotechnology firm Moderna Inc., can safely protect people against the virus.

It is a placebo-controlled trial.

In addition to Meridian’s Omaha location, the sites are in Norfolk and Grand Island, Nebraska; Dakota Dunes, South Dakota; Rockville, Maryland; Savannah, Georgia; Binghamton, New York; and Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

Meridian Clinical Research and other study sites are recruiting adults 19 and older with no history of COVID-19 infection and who are not pregnant or breastfeeding.

Meridian is looking for people who:

— Are healthy and are out in the community.

— May be in close, regular contact with infected people, which may include but is not limited to healthcare workers, first responders, manufacturing or factory workers, teachers and students and retail, transit and hospitality workers.

— Are age 65 and older.

— Have underlying health conditions, such as high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, asthma or heart conditions.

For more information, sign up at mcrmed.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:33:45am

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:35:46am

re: #134 GlutenFreeJesus

Hong Kong will never have elections again.

I figured there was gonna be a mass exodus out of Hong Kong starting around 2040 or so (seven years before the Hong Kong Basic Law was set to expire).

I think that exodus is probably already underway. Those who can get out, will get out - ASAP.

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:40:36am

re: #52 garzooma

Acosta, who Trump named as Labor Secretary. Acosta who gave Epstein a sweetheart deal to avoid any kind of jail. That Acosta.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:46:37am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:49:26am

More local news:

Medicaid expansion as passed by a referendum under the ACA begins open enrollment tomorrow. Governor Ricketts has stopped opposing it.

Under our plan that meets federal requirements, folks who sign up will receive a robust and comprehensive package similar to private insurance that includes physical health coverage, behavioral health coverage, and prescription drugs. Nebraskans who are 19-20 years old, pregnant, or medically frail will receive the comprehensive package noted above, plus dental, vision, and over-the-counter drug coverage.

The Village of Dalton (next town south) has cancelled its Fall Festival due to Covid-19.

The 4-H Chicken Costume Contest at the Scott’s Bluff County Fair was a big success.

Area 4-H’ers dressed up their poultry for a costume contest at the Scotts Bluff County Fair, where Splichal took things to the next level with his Harry Potter-themed outfit. Heidi Latowsky brought in her “dancing unicorn ballerina” chicken, complete with a horn and a tutu. Latowsky also dressed to fit the theme with a unicorn headband.

After protests from Native Americans and health workers, Wyoming has cancelled its one-shot antelope hunt competition. Many famous people have participated in that over the years, including former Vice-President Dick Cheney. Governor Pete Ricketts was invited to attend this year.

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garzooma  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:51:54am

re: #143 lawhawk

Acosta, who Trump named as Labor Secretary. Acosta who gave Epstein a sweetheart deal to avoid any kind of jail. That Acosta.

Right. But he claims he was pressured by Dershowitz’s dirty tricks. Dershowitz denies it. But AFAIK, no one has asked Acosta what made him think it happened. It’s a serious accusation. Hopefully the trial will provide an opportunity to question him about it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:53:23am

re: #143 lawhawk

Acosta, who Trump named as Labor Secretary. Acosta who gave Epstein a sweetheart deal to avoid any kind of jail. That Acosta.

That’s the one.

And how do you craft a “deal” to protect unknown persons? How is that possible?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:55:48am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Omaha company seeks volunteers for COVID-19 vaccine trial (Omaha World-Herald)

It is a placebo-controlled trial.

Who would do that? Perhaps if they paid a ton of money to my estate.

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:55:51am

re: #147 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Thanks.

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:56:28am

Appreciate all the warm wishes, prayers, and hopes for a speedy recovery

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:58:10am

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

Huh. All those contractions during Republican presidencies. Who’d’ve thunk it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 5:58:24am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Omaha company seeks volunteers for COVID-19 vaccine trial (Omaha World-Herald)

It is a placebo-controlled trial.

May be in close, regular contact with infected people, which may include but is not limited to healthcare workers, first responders, manufacturing or factory workers, teachers and students and retail, transit and hospitality workers.

— Are age 65 and older.

Have underlying health conditions, such as high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, asthma or heart conditions.

Anyone seeing a problem here?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:00:08am

re: #148 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Who would do that? Perhaps if they paid a ton of money to my estate.

The article in the World-Herald interviews a nurse who is interested.

I think I’ll just stay home a little while longer first. At the moment my town still has no cases.

When they do get the kinks worked out, folks like physicians, nurses, EMTs, police, firefighters, teachers, &c are going to need it first.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:02:32am

re: #152 Decatur Deb

Anyone seeing a problem here?

Not necessarily. Those are the people who seem to be at most risk of dying of the disease.

There have been complaints about medical trials in the past over explicitly excluding people with medical risks, the argument being medical risks confound the data. That argument is also used to exclude women who are fertile in general from trials, except the risk there is it could complicate a pregnancy and the company doesn’t want to get sued.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:04:02am

re: #152 Decatur Deb

Anyone seeing a problem here?

What, you’re not willing to die for… Whatever? //

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:04:44am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:05:00am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not necessarily. Those are the people who seem to be at most risk of dying of the disease.

There have been complaints about medical trials in the past over explicitly excluding people with medical risks, the argument being medical risks compound the data. That argument is also used to exclude women who are fertile in general from trials, except the risk there is it could complicate a pregnancy and the company doesn’t want to get sued.

Uhh…They’re giving a placebo to a big chunk of people who are by definition ignoring the CDC guidelines.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:06:51am
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John Hughes  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:08:11am

re: #142 Dr Lizardo

I figured there was gonna be a mass exodus out of Hong Kong starting around 2040 or so (seven years before the Hong Kong Basic Law was set to expire).

I think that exodus is probably already underway. Those who can get out, will get out - ASAP.

Yeah, and the whole can get out thing was explicitly arranged by the British government (aka Margaret Thatcher) giving fake “British Overseas” nationality to (some of) the people of Hong Kong.

(Had the weird unexpected side effect of being a part cause of the Malvinas/Falklands war).

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garzooma  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:08:19am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The article in the World-Herald interviews a nurse who is interested.
[…]

It’s worth posting some of it:

Julie Nichols has seen what COVID-19 can do.

A nurse who lives in Gretna, Nichols has cared for people hospitalized with the illness caused by the novel coronavirus.

So when the chance came, she decided to do something that might help protect vulnerable people and get everyone back to more normal activities.
[…]
“I just want to do something for them,” she said, referring to people like her mother and in-laws, who are in higher-risk age brackets, and her son, who has asthma.

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John Hughes  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:10:19am

re: #147 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And how do you craft a “deal” to protect unknown persons? How is that possible?

Dersh knew who they were, isn’t that good enough for you?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:10:19am

Op-ed from the pastor of the Sidney United Methodist Church today in the Sun-Telegraph.

We All Have a Decision to Make

Some people think hell isn’t gonna be all that bad - especially since all their friends are gonna be there!

But here’s the truth of it - hell is eternal darkness and solitude, in eternal flames and agony! Hell is a forever separation from God. Jesus describes Hell as a place where the worms that eat you never die, and the fires that burn you never go out.

Now, it is true - all your friends MIGHT be there with you, but they’re gonna be all alone in everlasting torment just like you, so no, Hell is not just a worse version of this life - Hell is payment for all your sins in this life!

Someone once put it this way: “If I’m wrong about Jesus, I’ve wasted my life. If you’re wrong about Jesus, you’ve wasted your eternity.” Honestly, wouldn’t it make a whole lot more sense to accept Jesus’ offer of payment for your sins instead of havin’ to pay for ‘em yourself? Of course, it does!

(more, mostly preaching)

Oooh, I know the answer to this PRATT: Pascal’s Wager!!! Hey, atheists have never heard that one before.

On the other hand reverend, you’re going to be really surprised when you meet Allah or Kali-ma, you think?

Even Blaise Pascal knew of Islam and Hinduism when he proposed that very flawed wager. He should have stuck to mathematics rather than theology; he created two centuries of Christian apologists who think they have a “gotcha” answer.

There are so many counters besides the one I gave above it’s frankly ridiculous an apologist in the XXI Century still uses it. (Serial killer who sincerely converts on this death bed, off to Heaven with you. Moral upstanding Muslim or Jew or atheist, burn in hell. His god can’t see through an insincere wager.)

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John Hughes  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:11:14am

re: #148 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Who would do that? Perhaps if they paid a ton of money to my estate.

Anyone. You’re not going to join the trial so you know you’re getting the place bo.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:11:21am

re: #157 Decatur Deb

Uhh…They’re giving a placebo to a big chunk of people who are by definition ignoring the CDC guidelines.

Well, not necessarily ignoring the CDC guidelines, but interacting with other people who are (maskholes).

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John Hughes  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:12:47am

re: #152 Decatur Deb

Anyone seeing a problem here?

If those bullet points are “anded” we hope there are no available candidates. If they’re “ored” then I don’t see what the problem is.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:12:49am

re: #160 garzooma

It’s worth posting some of it:

There should not be a nurse over 65, with co-morbidiities, in contact with infected patients. If there were a non- GOP administration, its Labor Department would send OSHA up the hospital’s ass with a bronze copy of the general-duty clause.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:14:04am

re: #152 Decatur Deb

You might actually read the article. The person presented in it is younger than 65, but is a health care worker, so she qualifies under the “comes in contact guideline.” They’re not looking for people who are in all three categories. They’re looking for enough people to eliminate the kind of variables you attempt to eliminate in a clinical trial.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:14:37am

re: #165 John Hughes

If those bullet points are “anded” we hope there are no available candidates. If they’re “ored” then I don’t see what the problem is.

Would the research design find the answer if they were “or”?

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:16:39am

re: #167 Belafon

There are all kinds of ethical issues with this kind of study. You dont put patients at risk of dying from exposure to test an unproven drug or vaccine. That’s why it isn’t normally done.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:19:37am

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:19:48am

re: #12 lawhawk

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:20:06am
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Nojay UK  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:20:08am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

I don’t think they’re looking for a large test cohort with ALL the above factors. What they’re hoping to find volunteering are older people, people with obesity, people with co-morbidities like diabetes, people who have close contact with likely COVID-19 carriers. They don’t all have to be the same people.

As for it being a placebo trial, this vaccine may not work at all hence the placebo side of things. If it works and some people received the placebo then they can get a tested and validated vaccine later. If they die of COVID-19 in the interim then that’s shitty, yes but without a proved working vaccine their chances of surviving were poor anyway.

In some ways a test vaccine that works in a large test cohort even with placebo reduces the spread of the disease anyway since there are thousands of people out there who got the viable vaccine rather than the placebo and don’t become infectious.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:20:09am

re: #169 lawhawk

There are all kinds of ethical issues with this kind of study. You dont put patients at risk of dying from exposure to test an unproven drug or vaccine. That’s why it isn’t normally done.

That particular drug has been shown to clear the virus in monkeys according to the article, and, after giving two doses, showed a higher antibody count than those that just recovered from the vaccine.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:21:30am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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wrenchwench  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:22:05am

re: #85 ckkatz

Beautiful picture and moth.

It reminded me of this song.

I’m not into the anime art, but here is a version of the song Hijo de Luna (Son of the Moon) by the singer Loona. (Great fast/Spanish waltz)

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Video

More moons.

Las Cafeteras - Luna Lovers

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:22:14am

Hurricane Isaias is now in the southeast Bahamas. Tropical storm watches are extended further north in Florida. Hurricane Warnings may be needed later for North Carolina and Virginia.

nhc.noaa.gov

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jeffreyw  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:22:31am

Cloudless Sulphur

Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:23:08am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Maybe Xi Jinping reckons that Trump would be far less likely to confront China over Taiwan. And I’m sure he knows what’s going on in the US and he can read the tea leaves just as well as anyone. He is not at all a stupid man.

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:26:40am

re: #164 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sounds a little death sentencey to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:27:12am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:27:29am

re: #158 Belafon

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:27:30am

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:28:52am

Back later.

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mmmirele  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:30:12am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So, so, SOOOO many things wrong with this nonsense. But in order to be concise about it…I’d rather go to hell by myself than be stuck in heaven worshiping an almighty unforgiving asshole. At least in hell I would already know I’m condemned. In this pastor’s “heaven,” I’d be waiting for the one word, the one action that I know would turn the almighty vindictive unforgiving asshole against me. And, nope, not interested in that kind of a life.

You don’t even have to believe in an afterlife or a heaven to know this is completely shitty. Maybe some people can continue to live and are able to ignore the psychological pressure of possibly being on the wrong side of a deity (as expressed through his earthly leadership down at the Sidney UMC) but for me, that would (and did) make me crazy.

Which is why I tell people I’d rather go to hell than worship their almighty punitive, vindictive, unforgiving asshole of a god. I’m dead serious about that too.

P.S. This is not the God I believe in. But I know a fuckton of people who do believe in this god.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:31:52am

Been trying to search solid reports on incidence/fatalities among health-care workers. The only thing that’s obvious is that the cloud of bullshit that’s been released makes casual internet searches impossible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:32:29am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:36:28am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

The conviction was in 2018, but still.

GREELEY, Colo. — The former chairman of the Colorado Republican Party was sentenced to four years of probation and 300 hours of community service for voter fraud. Steve Curtis blamed a “major diabetic episode” for causing him to vote his ex-wife’s absentee ballot in October 2016.

Curtis, 57, told District Judge Julie Hoskins Friday it was “a customary thing” for him to fill out his wife’s ballot and he didn’t know it was illegal, but he said he didn’t remember doing it.

Sure you didn’t know it was illegal, as the party chair of Weld County. And diabetes as the excuse, really? I wasn’t aware diabetes made you vote other people’s ballots. Tell the American Diabetes Association right away.

As many wingnuts are there are in Weld County, I wouldn’t be surprised if the real story here is he wouldn’t let his wife vote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:38:22am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:39:11am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

So no ramifications, no actual punishment. Nothing to dissuade others from following suit.

Coston asked the judge for a sentence including jail time with probation. Judge Hoskins instead decided on a penalty of four years probation and 300 hours of community service.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:39:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:40:07am
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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:40:45am

re: #191 Patricia Kayden

The chaos was caused by those that own the teargas.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:42:10am
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garzooma  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:43:42am

re: #179 Dr Lizardo

Maybe Xi Jinping reckons that Trump would be far less likely to confront China over Taiwan. And I’m sure he knows what’s going on in the US and he can read the tea leaves just as well as anyone. He is not at all a stupid man.

This is how wars start.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:43:44am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Running it like a mafia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:43:46am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:43:50am

re: #190 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So no ramifications, no actual punishment. Nothing to dissuade others from following suit.

IOKIYAR. Weld County’s sheriff tried to lead a secession movement from Colorado to get away from “liberal Denver.”

In 2019 a criminal reform package was passed in Colorado restoring the voting rights of felons, so he’s good there.

Too bad he loses his guns. You know he had guns.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:44:56am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

ICYMI: Late night document release details Ghislaine Maxwell’s sexual abuse in orgies with Jeffrey Epstein, minor girls and young Russian & Scandinavian models.

That’s where Trump Modeling Agency came in, I’d bet.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:47:16am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

Somebody noted with other pages of the release, you could remove the redactions by pasting the document into Windows Notepad. (This government has made that mistake before with other documents.) Perhaps someone can do that with this document too.

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wrenchwench  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:48:04am

re: #199 makeitstop

That’s where Trump Modeling Agency came in, I’d bet.

If we proclaim that every blacked out portion contains the word ‘Trump’, maybe he’ll make them all be uncovered to prove they don’t all say ‘Trump’.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:48:36am

Today’s dick pic:

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:49:11am

re: #199 makeitstop

That’s where Trump Modeling Agency came in, I’d bet.

There could be a universe in which Trump’s junior model shop was a straight-up professional representation operation. There could.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:52:43am

re: #203 Decatur Deb

There could be a universe in which Trump’s junior model shop was a straight-up professional representation operation. There could.

Anything is possible, I guess.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:52:58am

re: #203 Decatur Deb

There could be a universe in which Trump’s junior model shop was a straight-up professional representation operation. There could.

The cynical answer is rich or powerful people can buy their own justice.

A possible pragmatic answer is the redacted sections refer to still-open investigations.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:56:15am

I posted this last night, but it bears repeating.

They’ve hit the wall. They hoped to run a scorched earth campaign against Biden and it isn’t working. And with a complete lack of positive vision for the next four years, they’ve opted to stop buying ads and (probably) trying to pocket the money.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 6:59:39am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The cynical answer is rich or powerful people can buy their own justice.

A possible pragmatic answer is the redacted sections refer to still-open investigations.

I’m not so much thinking of these documents, just the presence of Trump in this circle, his self-admitted attitude towards glamour talent, and a shaky history at the modelling agency. Old lizards will remember the irony that Trump Juniors first surfaced because a David Duke website ripped off one of the images to illustrate an article on some Herrenvolk Maedchen.

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unproven innocence  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:00:22am

re: #152 Decatur Deb

Anyone seeing a problem here?

I’m guessing your concern is about some participants being less than representative of the general population, with some perhaps being more vulnerable than may be typical. But what is crucial in a proper trial is the assignment, without bias, of each individual participant to either the test group or the control group.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:01:40am
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NetworkKed  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:01:50am

Also not a good sign talking about himself in third person.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:03:44am

I am trying to think this through (while I should be finishing up a freelance article so I can pay my bills, but an addled brain makes its own path…)

It was no surprise, obviously, that Orangeanus was going to come out at some point and openly say the election should be delayed or cancelled or whatever. And it was no surprise that he’d trigger a barrage of deep-think “here’s why he can’t legally do that” thumbsucking articles among Very Serious Journamalists.

But… why yesterday? Was his calculation that it would be a Big Enough Deal that it would distract attention from Obama at John Lewis’ funeral, and those horrendous economic numbers, and a death toll over 150,000, including Herman Cain, and so on?

Because while he got some attention, it really wasn’t a LOT, in the grand scheme of things. It’s not at the top of the page on the NYT or WaPo or pretty much anywhere else.

And what I don’t know if he was expecting was how quickly and sharply the whole idea would be shot down by the congressional leaders who’d have to approve it if it were (somehow, ludicrously) to happen.

So now he’s shot off that particular weapon, which I have to believe was basically a single shot. Sure, he’ll keep trotting it out during his incontinent late-night tweetfests, but to what end now?

So… why yesterday of all days? Was there some sort of strategy there I missed? Or is he really just that haphazard and impulsive?

(and get better soon, lawhawk!)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:04:18am

re: #206 makeitstop

I posted this last night, but it bears repeating.

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They’ve hit the wall. They hoped to run a scorched earth campaign against Biden and it isn’t working. And with a complete lack of positive vision for the next four years, they’ve opted to stop buying ads and (probably) trying to pocket the money.

They have no vision and can’t even come up with talking points.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:04:58am

re: #208 unproven innocence

I’m guessing your concern is about some participants being less than representative of the general population, with some perhaps being more vulnerable than may be typical. But what is crucial in a proper trial is the assignment, without bias, of each individual participant to either the test group or the control group.

Most uncomfortable with running groups who are CDC defined as high risk (which I read as multiply-high risk) in a very early placebo trial against a lethal agent.

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wrenchwench  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:05:02am

re: #203 Decatur Deb

There could be a universe in which Trump’s junior model shop was a straight-up professional representation operation. There could.

Only using today’s definition of ‘straight-up professional’. A just universe has no room for people used for looking at.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:05:28am

re: #206 makeitstop

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:05:47am

re: #185 mmmirele

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P.S. This is not the God I believe in. But I know a fuckton of people who do believe in this god.

So do I, and they’ve told me I’m going to Hell (almost all of my family, who are also mostly United Methodists).

I realise many Christians aren’t like that, taking the attitude “that’s really up to God to decide, not me.” The New Testament is pretty clear that I’m not welcome though.

The concept of ultimate justice ultimately dehumanises people in this life. God will get ‘em in the end. It ignores the idea you can either punish or forgive without giving ultimatums.

The difference between me and people who view Christianity’s god with that view is if I saw an injustice I could correct, I would do it. That view says “God’s going to watch you rob a widow or rape a child and do nothing” because free will or something (nevermind the free will of the victim) and he’ll punish you later. Meanwhile the victim suffers.

If we saw another person who sat out and did nothing when they could, we would rightly call them a moral monster.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:06:41am

re: #214 wrenchwench

Only using today’s definition of ‘straight-up professional’. A just universe has no room for people used for looking at.

Be happy for now if we can achieve “look, but don’t touch.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:08:56am

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Be happy for now if we can achieve “look, but don’t touch.”

See Mike Pence at NASA.

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wrenchwench  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:09:12am

re: #217 Decatur Deb

Be happy for now if we can achieve “look, but don’t touch.”

One more ingredient might achieve happiness: Give her the damn money she earned. All of it.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:10:31am

re: #218 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

See Mike Pence at NASA.

Don’t know that presumed atrocity.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:10:45am

re: #219 wrenchwench

One more ingredient might achieve happiness: Give her the damn money she earned. All of it.

That’s in the renegotiated prenup.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:12:14am
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unproven innocence  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:13:08am

re: #213 Decatur Deb

Most uncomfortable with running groups who are CDC defined as high risk (which I read as multiply-high risk) in a very early placebo trial against a lethal agent.

That’s a valid concern.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:13:55am

re: #220 Decatur Deb

Don’t know that presumed atrocity.

Mike Pence Touches NASA Equipment Marked ‘Do Not Touch’ (Time, July 7, 2017)

Mike Pence succumbed to everyone’s secret museum impulse when he reached out and touched a piece of equipment clearly labeled “DO NOT TOUCH.”

The contact with the critical space flight hardware occurred during the Vice President’s tour of NASA’s Kennedy Space Center Thursday and was captured by a Reuters photographer. Pence explained why he did it on Friday: Florida Sen. Marco Rubio dared him.

(more)

They behave worse than children.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:14:05am

re: #54 bratwurst

Because an antibiotic will definitely help with a SARS-COV-2 infection.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:14:33am

JFC all the face palms

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:16:27am

re: #190 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Compare with black woman, Crystal Mason, who got 5 years for filing a provisional ballot thinking she was entitled to vote.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:16:38am

re: #219 wrenchwench

One more ingredient might achieve happiness: Give her the damn money she earned. All of it.

During one of my incarnations I served a couple terms at a catalog studio in the garment district. We used mostly Eileen Ford models when we could get them. She ran a righteous shop.

(We photographed a famous shot of a fluffy cat stretching the nylon away from a model’s leg. I was making about 50.00/week—the cat was making 60.00/ hour.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:16:52am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:17:31am

re: #228 Decatur Deb

You were the cat’s employee.

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Broad With Sass  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:17:57am

re: #12 lawhawk

re: #12 lawhawk

2020 cannot suck any worse?

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(((Archangel1)))  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:18:19am

re: #215 Patricia Kayden

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Am I alone in thinking that Trump’s “different election date” BS will cost him actual votes moving forward?
No one on the center-left of the US political spectrum will fall for that. However, I easily see many of his die-hard, Fox News-guzzling, intelligence-deficient fans believing that election day might not actually be when it’s supposed to be - and not bothering to vote, in notable numbers, when the time comes.

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wrenchwench  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:18:58am

re: #225 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Because an antibiotic will definitely help with a SARS-COV-2 infection.

He’ll need an anti-fungal for the mold. Any athlete’s foot treatment, if snorted, should help.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:19:54am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You were the cat’s employee.

Cat could afford much better drugs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:21:35am

re: #233 wrenchwench

He’ll need an anti-fungal for the mold. Any athlete’s foot treatment, if snorted, should help.

Get the spray stuff, spray it into a paper bag, and breathe deeply. That should fix it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:22:02am

So I can say about toxic Christianity is that I’d rather rot in hell for eternity than spend it with those people. Because that would be hell.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:22:15am

re: #227 lawhawk

Compare with black woman, Crystal Mason, who got 5 years for filing a provisional ballot thinking she was entitled to vote.

This * 1000

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Semper Fi  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:23:28am

re: #206 makeitstop

I posted this last night, but it bears repeating.

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They’ve hit the wall. They hoped to run a scorched earth campaign against Biden and it isn’t working. And with a complete lack of positive vision for the next four years, they’ve opted to stop buying ads and (probably) trying to pocket the money.

Or, why spend the money if he is thinking about resigning rather than suffer the humiliation of what might be a monumental election loss. I think Pence would go along with a Nixon type resignation.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:24:00am

re: #211 i(m)p(each)sos

I am trying to think this through (while I should be finishing up a freelance article so I can pay my bills, but an addled brain makes its own path…)

It was no surprise, obviously, that Orangeanus was going to come out at some point and openly say the election should be delayed or cancelled or whatever. And it was no surprise that he’d trigger a barrage of deep-think “here’s why he can’t legally do that” thumbsucking articles among Very Serious Journamalists.

But… why yesterday? Was his calculation that it would be a Big Enough Deal that it would distract attention from Obama at John Lewis’ funeral, and those horrendous economic numbers, and a death toll over 150,000, including Herman Cain, and so on?

Because while he got some attention, it really wasn’t a LOT, in the grand scheme of things. It’s not at the top of the page on the NYT or WaPo or pretty much anywhere else.

And what I don’t know if he was expecting was how quickly and sharply the whole idea would be shot down by the congressional leaders who’d have to approve it if it were (somehow, ludicrously) to happen.

So now he’s shot off that particular weapon, which I have to believe was basically a single shot. Sure, he’ll keep trotting it out during his incontinent late-night tweetfests, but to what end now?

So… why yesterday of all days? Was there some sort of strategy there I missed? Or is he really just that haphazard and impulsive?

(and get better soon, lawhawk!)

Someone (maybe here, maybe on Twitter) made the point that Trump would have gotten the news of both Cain’s death and the GDP numbers before the public, and the fantasizing about delaying the election was probably the most outrageous dodge he could think of at the time.

The irony is that the GDP numbers and Cain’s death were such big stories, they completely overshadowed the election delay story once it was pointed out numerous times that a) he couldn’t do it, and b) GOP bigwigs and members of Congress themselves shot down the idea.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:24:18am

Not good.

Coronavirus: Hong Kong public housing estate evacuated after cluster of Covid-19 infections found (South China Morning Post)

Some residents in a Hong Kong public housing block were evacuated on Thursday after a cluster of Covid-19 infections was found spanning several floors, with authorities investigating whether pipes were spreading the virus.

The move came as six more coronavirus cases were confirmed, five of which involved Hongkongers returning from Bangladesh, while the sixth was a 72-year-old resident of the affected housing block.

(more)

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:24:47am

re: #238 Semper Fi

Or, why spend the money if he is thinking about resigning rather than suffer the humiliation of what might be a monumental election loss. I think Pence would go along with a Nixon type resignation.

The day he resigns, some Democrat should announce that you cannot be pardoned for something you haven’t been convicted of.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:24:57am

jeebus, Mark, you couldn’t work the word “LIES” somewhere into that tweet?

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:25:04am

re: #238 Semper Fi

Or, why spend the money if he is thinking about resigning rather than suffer the humiliation of what might be a monumental election loss. I think Pence would go along with a Nixon type resignation.

Who would the RepubliKKKlans nominate if Shithead resigns and gets pardoned?

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wrenchwench  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:25:15am

Three days off in a row was too much to hope for. I got two, and was starting to feel human after my 17-in-a-row of working, but I just got called in on what would have been my third day off.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:26:17am

re: #240 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not good.

Coronavirus: Hong Kong public housing estate evacuated after cluster of Covid-19 infections found (South China Morning Post)

(more)

I suspect we’ll find out that some people didn’t properly stay where they were supposed to and interacted with each other.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:26:18am

re: #238 Semper Fi

Or, why spend the money if he is thinking about resigning rather than suffer the humiliation of what might be a monumental election loss. I think Pence would go along with a Nixon type resignation.

Nixon and ford did not to my knowledge discuss or negotiate the eventual pardon. Certainly not as a condition of Nixon’s resigning.

If trump/ pence actually orchestrated this, there could be problems.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:26:20am

re: #157 Decatur Deb

Uhh…They’re giving a placebo to a big chunk of people who are by definition ignoring the CDC guidelines.

There have been some papers discussing Covid-19 vaccine trial ethics. Even potentially exposing those trials to intentional exposure which is against trial guidelines if there is not a proven and available therapy. Meridian has to have permission from the proper vetting authorities; this trial is approved. We are in different times

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i(m)p(each)sos  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:27:30am

re: #239 makeitstop

Someone (maybe here, maybe on Twitter) made the point that Trump would have gotten the news of both Cain’s death and the GDP numbers before the public, and the fantasizing about delaying the election was probably the most outrageous dodge he could think of at the time.

The irony is that the GDP numbers and Cain’s death were such big stories, they completely overshadowed the election delay story once it was pointed out numerous times that a) he couldn’t do it, and b) GOP bigwigs and members of Congress themselves shot down the idea.

Right - but now that the idea has been shot down, what’s left in his arsenal?

We knew he was going to try this at some point, and now he’s tried it, and it fizzled.

Am I wrong to feel good about that?

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Nojay UK  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:28:03am

re: #213 Decatur Deb

Most uncomfortable with running groups who are CDC defined as high risk (which I read as multiply-high risk) in a very early placebo trial against a lethal agent.

Right now everybody on the planet, near enough is enrolled in a placebo trial against a lethal agent since there is no working vaccine available yet. There have been “cures” put forward by assorted “researchers”, everything from hydroxylquine through to bleach but they’ve not panned out because real researchers did science and statistics and testing on them and proved they were at best placebos themselves. Sadly that didn’t stop some folks, especially at high risk going ahead and using these “cures” to no avail and sometimes harm.

If and when we get workable vaccines we will know they work because we have statistically-significant numbers from placebo vs. non-placebo testing. Vaccines that fail to promote mass immunity from infection are worse than useless, they use up production resources and logistics and when they fail they leave the population believing that any future vaccine is also going to be useless so they’re less likely to come forward to get vaccinated again.

We need the first candidates for mass immunisation against COVID-19 to work at least somewhat, they don’t need to have a 100% success rate or a long-duration immunity effect. There will be better vaccines along later as we science the shit out of this disease and get a better handle on its weak points. We do need to do the science though, and placebo testing is part of that attack method.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:30:21am

re: #232 (((Archangel1)))

Am I alone in thinking that his “different election date” BS will cost him actual votes moving forward?
No one on the center-left of the US political spectrum will fall for that. However, I easily see many of his die-hard, Fox News-guzzling, intelligence-deficient fans believing that election day might not actually be when it’s supposed to be - and not bothering to vote, in notable numbers, when the time comes.

This seems similar to his bogus mail vote fraud bulkshyte. State GOP offices have been sending postcards to their own voters telling them mail voting is safe and secure, and how to do it.

The only thing I can find good about this shyteshow is that he’s causing just as much chaos in the GOP as he is everywhere else.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:30:23am

re: #211 i(m)p(each)sos

I am trying to think this through (while I should be finishing up a freelance article so I can pay my bills, but an addled brain makes its own path…)

It was no surprise, obviously, that Orangeanus was going to come out at some point and openly say the election should be delayed or cancelled or whatever. And it was no surprise that he’d trigger a barrage of deep-think “here’s why he can’t legally do that” thumbsucking articles among Very Serious Journamalists.

But… why yesterday? Was his calculation that it would be a Big Enough Deal that it would distract attention from Obama at John Lewis’ funeral, and those horrendous economic numbers, and a death toll over 150,000, including Herman Cain, and so on?

Because while he got some attention, it really wasn’t a LOT, in the grand scheme of things. It’s not at the top of the page on the NYT or WaPo or pretty much anywhere else.

And what I don’t know if he was expecting was how quickly and sharply the whole idea would be shot down by the congressional leaders who’d have to approve it if it were (somehow, ludicrously) to happen.

So now he’s shot off that particular weapon, which I have to believe was basically a single shot. Sure, he’ll keep trotting it out during his incontinent late-night tweetfests, but to what end now?

So… why yesterday of all days? Was there some sort of strategy there I missed? Or is he really just that haphazard and impulsive?

(and get better soon, lawhawk!)

electoral-vote.com theory:

Trump “is either trying to provoke a reaction or trying to sow doubt about the outcome [of the election].”

We find this unlikely. Occam’s razor says that Trump is very worried about the election so he just tweeted the first thing that popped into his mind: Not hold the election until some indefinite time in the future determined by him. There’s also another possibility. Trump knew that today’s headlines would not be friendly to him, between the bad economy (see below) and the John Lewis funeral (see further below), not to mention being 48 hours removed from passing 150,000 COVID-19 deaths (see even further below).By putting this out there (and it was part of a flurry of outlandish tweets), he may well have been hoping that a bunch of “You can’t do that!” and “What is Donald Trump talking about?” stories would suck up a bunch of real estate and pixels, and would result in less coverage of the really embarrassing stuff.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:32:01am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, Mark, you couldn’t work the word “LIES” somewhere into that tweet?

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The Pre$$titution never stops.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:33:12am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I would rather go to hell with a clean conscience, than go to heaven with a burdened one

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:33:38am

re: #249 Nojay UK

One of the risks of placebo is that it changes the overall behavior of the receiving sample. These more vulnerable people are in the wild, and relaxing can be fatal.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:33:45am

re: #249 Nojay UK

Plus trials are voluntary. Meridan isn’t doing this testing in some poor nation in Africa where regulations are weak. They are doing it here in the USA where strong laws exist about informed consent.

Anyone who is going into this should know there is a risk to a faulty or dangerous vaccine (though most dangers should have already been worked out). The law also prohibits exorbitant compensation of volunteers, to prevent the lure of greed to interfere with a person’s weighing of risk versus benefit.

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Jay C  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:34:28am

re: #241 Belafon

The day he resigns, some Democrat should announce that you cannot be pardoned for something you haven’t been convicted of.

Yet.
AFAICR (and said recollection MAY be faulty, of course: clarification will be appreciated) - the Ford/Nixon pardon did exactly that: and still hasn’t been legally challenged, and so (IIR) still stands as some sort of precedent.
Unfortunately.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:37:21am

re: #254 Decatur Deb

One of the risks of placebo is that is changes the overall behavior of the receiving sample. These more vulnerable people are in the wild, and relaxing can be fatal.

Except volunteers know that there’s a 50% probability that they could have received it.

I’m curious how you expect any drug to be tested.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:38:51am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, Mark, you couldn’t work the word “LIES” somewhere into that tweet?

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Mint Green is most definitely not a flattering color for Santa Monica Goebbels. He looks ridiculous.

And that photo - are they the new fun-loving Fashy couple or what?

//

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:39:06am

re: #256 Jay C

Yet.
AFAICR (and said recollection MAY be faulty, of course: clarification will be appreciated) - the Ford/Nixon pardon did exactly that: and still hasn’t been legally challenged, and so (IIR) still stands as some sort of precedent.
Unfortunately.

As you said, it hasn’t been challenged. It’s not law, it’s an agreement made by people after Nixon because some people didn’t want to pursue it further. It’s exactly the same as the “rule” that says a sitting president cannot be indicated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:39:14am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:39:19am

re: #257 Belafon

Except volunteers know that there’s a 50% probability that they could have received it.

I’m curious how you expect any drug to be tested.

On samples drawn from parts of the population that are more likely, not less likely, to survive a positive.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:41:39am

re: #132 Florida Panhandler

The real irony is that the Libertarian dream can only result in authoritarianism at its endgame. Whether power is wielded by warlords or crime bosses, the vacant spaces will be filled quickly by those who seek authority over others by any means possible.

They really object when you suggest countries like Somalia now or Chile under Pinochet is the result of libertarianism.

Heck, even when my wife was a member of the Libertarian Party she acknowledged that was a difficult problem to overcome.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:42:13am

Fingers crossed this works okay. Front yard sprinkler rainbow in slow motion.

Facebook Post

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:42:17am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

On samples drawn from parts of the population that are more likely, not less likely, to survive a positive.

Therefore you’ve proven the drug works on healthy people. Which does not prove the drug is effective.

The point of testing and getting volunteers from as many type as possible is to eliminate all variables that aren’t related to actually treating the virus.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:43:04am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The spin is that Liberal Panic led to this, not the disease itself, and that Dr Fauci is hiding reports on how truly effective hydrochloroquaxine really is because he is a tool of Big Pharma.

Did we mention that WHO and CDC are distributing covid-infected masks like smallpox blankets to Red States?

Big Pharma keeps my epilepsy and thyroid problems under control. Big Pharma drove my tuberculosis into latency.

I’m a fan of Big Pharma.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:44:10am

re: #248 i(m)p(each)sos

Right - but now that the idea has been shot down, what’s left in his arsenal?

We knew he was going to try this at some point, and now he’s tried it, and it fizzled.

Am I wrong to feel good about that?

They’ve pretty much scraped the bottom of the bag at this point - which I believe plays into that story of shutting down ad buys at this point.

They thought running a completely negative campaign was the way to go. But besides those stupid spots where they were running footage of Trump’s America and trying to blame it on Biden, this country is pretty much burnt out on negative news about now.

I don’t think you’re wrong to feel good about it. I do too. They’ve shot their shot, and their credibility is more trashed now than it’s been in four years.

Their campaign will reduce to ineffectual slaps, and Biden hasn’t even gotten started yet.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:44:30am

re: #264 Belafon

Therefore you’ve proven the drug works on healthy people. Which does not prove the drug is effective.

The point of testing and getting volunteers from as many type as possible is to eliminate all variables that aren’t related to actually treating the virus.

Goal should be to see if it prevents infection overall, not to see if subsequent infection kills you—we know that.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:46:18am

re: #261 Decatur Deb

On samples drawn from parts of the population that are more likely, not less likely, to survive a positive.

And that gets back to my post about ethics in vaccine testing. This is a volunteer program and Meridian is trying (I assume) to skew towards people who are more likely to be exposed. In a more normal time, a trial wouldn’t be selecting for the population that this trial is looking for; it is normally unethical without a therapy to be skewing this way, but this is not a normal time.

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Jay C  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:46:39am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So Sen. Ernst is reduced to sniping at her (D) opponent for *taking selfies with her dog*?

She’s probably just jealous: what “pets” would Joni Ernst have around to snap pix of? Gelded hogs?

PS: I’d stand with Ringo, too: he’s cute.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:47:01am

re: #178 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Dizzy  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:47:52am

Glad to live in a sane country:

‘Quick rebound’: Canadian economy has recovered almost half of ground lost
Gross domestic product expanded 4.5% in May

financialpost.com

*Apologies (how Canadian) to my U.S. friends here, I truly feel for you.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:47:53am

re: #268 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And that gets back to my post about ethics in vaccine testing. This is a volunteer program and Meridian is trying (I assume) to skew towards people who are more likely to be exposed. In a more normal time, a trial wouldn’t be selecting for the polyamide that this trial is looking for; it is normally unethical without a therapy to be skewing this way, but this is not a normal time.

I asked if anyone had a problem. That’s a problem.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:49:34am
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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:50:10am

re: #268 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And that gets back to my post about ethics in vaccine testing. This is a volunteer program and Meridian is trying (I assume) to skew towards people who are more likely to be exposed. In a more normal time, a trial wouldn’t be selecting for the population that this trial is looking for; it is normally unethical without a therapy to be skewing this way, but this is not a normal time.

In large part because there is no therepy.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:50:54am

re: #274 Belafon

In large part because there is no therepy.

Bleach, comrade, bleach.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:51:21am

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, Mark, you couldn’t work the word “LIES” somewhere into that tweet?

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And he makes his wife walk in the rain while he hogs the whole umbrella for himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:51:50am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:52:04am

re: #268 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And that gets back to my post about ethics in vaccine testing. This is a volunteer program and Meridian is trying (I assume) to skew towards people who are more likely to be exposed. In a more normal time, a trial wouldn’t be selecting for the population that this trial is looking for; it is normally unethical without a therapy to be skewing this way, but this is not a normal time.

And (guessing) this method made the approval wonks less uncomfortable than an intentional exposure to SARS-COV-2 that would be completely out of normal trial ethics without a viable therapy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:53:24am

re: #226 The Pie Overlord!

JFC all the face palms

Europe has half again as many people, was hit with it before us, and is still managing better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:54:14am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:55:01am

re: #278 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And (guessing) this method made the approval wonks less uncomfortable than an intentional exposure to SARS-COV-2 that would be completely out of normal trial ethics without a viable therapy.

And that risk could be attenuated by ruling out subjects most likely to take the Big Hit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:56:06am
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jaunte  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:56:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:57:01am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:59:36am

re: #272 Decatur Deb

I asked if anyone had a problem. That’s a problem.

And that is a legitimate question. I am amoral on it because I am not a bioethicist nor a vaccine trial risk manager. The wonks that do that ran the risk analysis, came up with a risk-benefit scenario (or many) and made a decision that they would approve that trial. I cannot debate the conclusion because I have no data nor qualifications.

Edit - damn that nor to not typo really changed that sentence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2020 • 7:59:49am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

All House Republicans are terrible, but Jim Jordan and Matt Gaetz are absolutely awful on top of being terrible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:00:53am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:02:52am

re: #266 makeitstop

They’ve pretty much scraped the bottom of the bag at this point - which I believe plays into that story of shutting down ad buys at this point.

They thought running a completely negative campaign was the way to go. But besides those stupid spots where they were running footage of Trump’s America and trying to blame it on Biden, this country is pretty much burnt out on negative news about now.

I don’t think you’re wrong to feel good about it. I do too. They’ve shot their shot, and their credibility is more trashed now than it’s been in four years.

Their campaign will reduce to ineffectual slaps, and Biden hasn’t even gotten started yet.

Plus they have Lincoln Project, Republican Voters Against Trump, Meidas Touch, Vote Vets, and others all putting out devastating adverts and statements. The Trump campaign is being attacked from multiple sides at once.

On top of that, he seems to be in this for the money. The Lincoln Project advert against Brad Parscale seems to have gotten to him. He’s not sharing his pot of money with downballot candidates or the party like most normal presidential candidates do when they are well-financed.

He might be planning an exit with the remaining loot, and spending money on adverts won’t help him. I presume he sees internal polling as well.

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jaunte  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:03:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:04:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:07:02am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:10:54am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

Does Rep. Jordan have another record to play besides but what about the protests? What about closing churches?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:11:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:12:52am

re: #292 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Does Rep. Jordan have another record to play besides but what about the protests? What about closing churches?

masks

he hates masks

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:14:03am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:15:04am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

The current track moves the storm a bit more left, leading to a possible strike on South Carolina.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:15:51am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:16:11am

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

Whataboutism.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:16:39am

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jim Jordan is so shamelessly slimy, he makes Gary Oldman’s character in The Contender look like Mr. Smith.

Hell, he makes Oldman’s pill-chomping cop from The Professional look like a nice guy.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:19:10am

re: #299 makeitstop

Hell, he makes Oldman’s pill-chomping cop from The Professional look like a nice guy.

Yeah, but how does he compare to Oldman’s character in the Fifth Element?

Oldman has been my favorite actor, but his politics really soured me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:21:32am
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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:22:42am

re: #300 Belafon

Yeah, but how does he compare to Oldman’s character in the Fifth Element?

Oldman has been my favorite actor, but his politics really soured me.

I hear you. Despite his politics, I’ll forever stand in awe of his portrayal of Sid Vicious. An amazing performance.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:26:36am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:27:28am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:28:11am

Nice weekend (mostly).

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:28:21am

re: #303 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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A Three Hour Tour  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:28:48am

re: #292 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Does Rep. Jordan have another record to play besides but what about the protests? What about closing churches?

I’m fairly certain Louie Gohmert didn’t contract Covid from attending a Black Lives Matter protest.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:28:55am

re: #303 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Don’t forget Ronna.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:29:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:30:37am

re: #308 Belafon

Don’t forget Ronna.

and Lara and Kim

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:31:12am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:32:06am

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sure Stonekettle would be happy to trade the hurricane for London’s weather, if that nincompoop wants rain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:33:27am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:33:49am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

Feature not a bug.

Trump WILL try to steal this election any way he can.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:34:26am

From Wife’s FB traffic:

“It’s infuriating Trump doesn’t bring in experts to these briefings. If he’s going to talk Covid, Fauci should be there. If he’s talking sex-with-demons, then we should be hearing from Melania.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:35:52am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

This also hurts businesses large and small which rely on the Post Office and its track record for being one of the most reliable postal services on the planet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:36:35am

BURN

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:38:23am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another consequence is that it’s going to help Amazon. I can order from a small business and get it through the mail or I can order from Amazon and get it through their delivery trucks.

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:38:51am

Family retweeting Q crap about Bill Clinton being revealed by the Maxwell documents as a pedophile…When I reply with stuff about Trump Models and Dersh…”Fake News”…re: #316 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This also hurts businesses large and small which rely on the Post Office and its track record for being one of the most reliable postal services on the planet.

Not only the Post Office, also UPS said 2 packages would be delivered to me on the 20th…they weren’t delivered until the 29th. 9 days in a row the UPS tracker web page said they were out for delivery…and at 9PM the status shifted back to “preparing for delivery”…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:39:33am

O_o

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jeffreyw  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:40:09am

re: #270 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Western good morning!

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That kitty is going about asking for a handshake in a manner that is counter-productive.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:40:23am

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

BURN

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:40:46am

re: #319 🌹UOJB!

Family retweeting Q crap about Bill Clinton being revealed by the Maxwell documents as a pedophile…When I reply with stuff about Trump Models and Dersh…”Fake News”…

Not only the Post Office, also UPS said 2 packages would be delivered to me on the 20th…they weren’t delivered until the 29th. 9 days in a row the UPS tracker web page said they were out for delivery…and at 9PM the status shifted back to “preparing for delivery”…

That I think is a consequence of everyone moving to online ordering, and I don’t think UPS is preparing for it. If we do get a vaccine, then their business would slowly drop off. Why would they want to hire people that they would have to let go in the future.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:41:04am

re: #303 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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sorry hon, what’s your ‘middle’ name?????

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:41:09am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

The books he threw out when he took office, the ones Obama and GW Bush left behind? Those books?

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John Hughes  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:41:12am

re: #213 Decatur Deb

Most uncomfortable with running groups who are CDC defined as high risk (which I read as multiply-high risk) in a very early placebo trial against a lethal agent.

I just don’t see the problem.

If the trial isn’t run then everybody gets the placebo.

If the trial is run without the placebo you can’t really tell if it works.

If the trial is run without at-risk people then you can’t really tell if it works.

The at-risk people on the trial are no worse off than if the trial wasn’t run.

You seem to be operating under the assumption that the vaccine works and so it’s somehow bad to be giving people the placebo if they could have the vaccine. But without the trial we won’t really know if the vaccine works.

And if you’re going to worry about the people in at-risk groups in the trial who are getting the placebo instead of the vaccine why not worry about the people in at-risk groups who are not on the trial and so certainly not getting the vaccine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:41:23am

re: #318 Belafon

Another consequence is that it’s going to help Amazon. I can order from a small business and get it through the mail or I can order from Amazon and get it through their delivery trucks.

Amazon takes more than a week for me now’
For example, we placed an order on Monday, it hasn’t even shipped yet

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:41:34am

re: #319 🌹UOJB!

Family retweeting Q crap about Bill Clinton being revealed by the Maxwell documents as a pedophile…When I reply with stuff about Trump Models and Dersh…”Fake News”…

Not only the Post Office, also UPS said 2 packages would be delivered to me on the 20th…they weren’t delivered until the 29th. 9 days in a row the UPS tracker web page said they were out for delivery…and at 9PM the status shifted back to “preparing for delivery”…

UPS uses the USPS for a good account of their deliveries, even in part. And USPS in full for all remote locations.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:42:05am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

and Lara and Kim

ah yes, paying family not to work

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:44:39am

re: #328 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

UPS uses the USPS for a good account of their deliveries, even in part. And USPS in full for all remote locations.

This.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:44:39am
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:45:18am

Another coworker has COVID and is now on a respirator.

FUCK YOU AGAIN, TRUMP!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:45:48am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:46:06am

re: #319 🌹UOJB!

Family retweeting Q crap about Bill Clinton being revealed by the Maxwell documents as a pedophile…When I reply with stuff about Trump Models and Dersh…”Fake News”…

Not only the Post Office, also UPS said 2 packages would be delivered to me on the 20th…they weren’t delivered until the 29th. 9 days in a row the UPS tracker web page said they were out for delivery…and at 9PM the status shifted back to “preparing for delivery”…

Sometimes I feel better off than you, because my family just cut me off entirely (that, and none of us are on social media). The only contact with my family is my mother and eldest first cousin.

I’d planned to go to Chicago for my mother’s eightieth birthday this month, but those plans obviously went down the drain with the Trumpdemic.

My wife was doing more planning for an in-state vacation to Smith Falls near Valentine last night. We’re planning to drive through the Sandhills, so if nothing else I can bombard LGF with a lot of photographs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:47:49am
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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:48:43am

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“SEE! BLM is spreading the virus!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:48:56am

re: #328 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

UPS uses the USPS for a good account of their deliveries, even in part. And USPS in full for all remote locations.

We have long delays with UPS in normal times, since they don’t like coming way out here. We don’t use UPS, and prefer companies on-line which offer end-to-end Post Office shipping.

Sending a package by UPS here is a 120-mile round trip to Sidney. The Post Office is a block away.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:50:41am

If you told central casting you needed someone to play an asshole neighbor, they’d send someone that looks and acts like Jim Jordan.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:51:12am

Dunno about you guys, but I’d totally rock some Fyre Festival merch at this point.

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aatharuv  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:51:19am

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So what that picture is saying is that the Confederacy is trying to kill us through biological warfare.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:51:48am

re: #337 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We have long delays with UPS in normal times, since they don’t like coming way out here. We don’t use UPS, and prefer companies on-line which offer end-to-end Post Office shipping.

Sending a package by UPS here is a 120-mile round trip to Sidney. The Post Office is a block away.

Not to mention significantly more expensive.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:51:58am

Heh. So I wake up and check my stocks every morning like I do. I noticed Apple went ^ 25 points. I was kinda surprised as a big swing like that really never happens for them. Lo and behold, they announced a 4-1 split coming in late August. Oh boy.

Fuck Trump!

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:52:58am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

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i read something on this yesterday
cant find the cite right now
first class mail is not being delayed much
mostly whats delayed are packages magazines, etc
ballots go out to voters first class

completed ballots coming back through the post office go through a kind of early pre sorting when they arrive. separated from all the cable bills, electric bills, birthday cards, etc.
they are bulked together, loaded onto trucks and driven to the election offices.
not too much chance for massive (dare i say meaningful) delays.

the usps does manage to handle 1.3billion xmas cards a year as normal first class mail

if every person voted by mail in 2016, that’s around 128million ballots.
presorted out of the flow it’s about 9% of the volume of christmas cards

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:53:05am

re: #326 John Hughes

I just don’t see the problem….

If the trial is run without at-risk people then you can’t really tell if it works.

This is the core of the problem, which is touched further up the thread. If the purpose is to develop a preventive, preventing infection in the young healthy sample does the job. If it fails in that sample, the consequences are bad enough, but far less deadly. Nothing much is learned by failing on a sample we know is more brittle.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:53:11am

When I mailed a birthday card a couple days ago to my mother, I used one of the John Oliver stamps I purchased.

The postmistress had never seen stamps from stamps.com before and was unfamiliar with them. She had to look that up to ensure they were legitimate.

In local news, my wife likes her new purchase the plumber helped install, her Ass-blaster 6000 (the bidet with a turbo car wash, heated seat, and death ray).

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:55:19am

re: #338 Eclectic Cyborg

If you told central casting you needed someone to play an asshole neighbor, they’d send someone that looks and acts like Jim Jordan.

or rand paul

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:56:37am

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:57:12am

re: #345 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When I mailed a birthday card a couple days ago to my mother, I used one of the John Oliver stamps I purchased.

The postmistress had never seen stamps from stamps.com before and was unfamiliar with them. She had to look that up to ensure they were legitimate.

In local news, my wife likes her new purchase the plumber helped install, her Ass-blaster 6000 (the bidet with a turbo car wash, heated seat, and death ray).

+ more than 1

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:57:14am

Like Wilson says, ‘Fuck around and find out.’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:57:57am

re: #338 Eclectic Cyborg

If you told central casting you needed someone to play an asshole neighbor, they’d send someone that looks and acts like Jim Jordan.

or Rand Paul

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Jay C  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:59:05am

re: #345 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In local news, my wife likes her new purchase the plumber helped install, her Ass-blaster 6000 (the bidet with a turbo car wash, heated seat, and death ray).

Not to want to give free product plugs or anything, but is this the Japanese-made unit?

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 8:59:53am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

or Rand Paul

ahem
re: #346 dangerman

or rand paul

;-)

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:00:22am

re: #344 Decatur Deb

This is the core of the problem, which is touched further up the thread. If the purpose is to develop a preventive, preventing infection in the young healthy sample does the job. If it fails in that sample, the consequences are bad enough, but far less deadly. Nothing much is learned by failing on a sample we know is more brittle.

We will learn more from helping someone in a high risk group gain immunity than a healthy person. And we will learn something if the vaccine works on a healthy group and fails on a more brittle person. The only time we wouldn’t learn something is if it fails in all groups.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:00:31am

re: #343 dangerman

During our 2012 battle to save our post office, one of the things the Postal Service did was prevent many rural post offices from cancelling mail and sorting for local delivery, instead requiring it to go to a regional sorting centre first (for us, North Platte, three day turn around time).

When we were over in Lisco fighting the closure of their post office, the bank president noted there are federal banking laws requiring delivery of certain local pieces of mail within 24 hours.

In our town, the claim was the post office wasn’t making enough money, which had the gun shop owner dump a massive pile of Registered Mail receipts on the table to show they were full of crap. He does thousands of dollars a month in Registered Mail by himself here.

Along the northern tier of the state, the proposal was to close every post office between Chadron and Valentine (about two hundred miles).

Because of a Panhandle-wide effort, every post office was saved, though some had hours cut. (Angora, population 1, even kept their post office.)

They’ve been at this a long time.

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:04:00am

It’s what we all knew.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:04:44am

re: #353 Belafon

We will learn more from helping someone in a high risk group gain immunity than a healthy person. And we will learn something if the vaccine works on a healthy group and fails on a more brittle person. The only time we wouldn’t learn something is if it fails in all groups.

I guess we’ll just have to wait a couple years until the real experts decide the wisdom—a firm of liability lawyers and 12 civil jurors in Nebraska.

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SteelPH  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:05:33am

re: #355 plansbandc

These people need to be imprisoned.

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:07:12am

re: #357 SteelPH

So much blood on their hands.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:08:58am

re: #356 Decatur Deb

I guess we’ll just have to wait a couple years until the real experts decide the wisdom—a firm of liability lawyers and 12 civil jurors in Nebraska.

I wonder if we could get Anymouse on that jury?

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:09:09am

re: #355 plansbandc

Jared’s Secret Plan?

Why the fuck would a plan like that NEED TO BE SECRET?

National security considerations?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:09:50am

re: #353 Belafon

We will learn more from helping someone in a high risk group gain immunity than a healthy person. And we will learn something if the vaccine works on a healthy group and fails on a more brittle person. The only time we wouldn’t learn something is if it fails in all groups.

Actually, we do learn something if it fails in all groups: that vaccine didn’t work.

Not much comfort to those in the trial, but we’re back to everyone in a trial is a volunteer and if they’re being treated honestly, they should be told what risks they are assuming.

Vaccine trials which went bad, or actual deployments of approved vaccines which did, though rare, fuel anti-vax sentiment. The original diphtheria vaccine wound up with a fungus growing in it, killing some people, which caused manufacturers to use thimerisol as a preservative. That was latched onto much later by anti-vaxxers as “poison” (because diphtheria is so much better).

Ever since Jenner first developed his smallpox vaccine there has been questions about ethics, efficacy, and safety (and anti-vaxxers).

If some people who are at elevated risk for coronavirus volunteer to test potential vaccines, is it unethical? Particularly if they know the risks going in and still agree? That’s a tough one for me. There’s no question of the risks with no vaccine at all.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:10:11am

re: #359 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if we could get Anymouse on that jury?

/

Swear him in on a Marvel comic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:11:19am

As much as I await a corona vaccine, I do not at all look forward to the ensuing vaccine debate that will ensue when it is introduced…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:12:08am

re: #357 SteelPH

These people need to be imprisoned.

They’re also morans. Blue states now mostly have this under control. More rural red states squandered the hard-won knowledge from the early outbreaks in New York and New Jersey because their religious faith of conservatism demanded they ignore the problem.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:12:28am
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sagehen  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:12:43am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Because the protesters wear masks. And they’re outdoors. And they keep it moving.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:12:52am

re: #364 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They’re also morans. Blue states now mostly have this under control. More rural red states squandered the hard-won knowledge from the early outbreaks in New York and New Jersey because their religious faith of conservatism demanded they ignore the problem.

Their faith caused them to see it as Divine Justice and to believe that God would spare them, the Righteous.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:16:11am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As much as I await a corona vaccine, I do not at all look forward to the ensuing vaccine debate that will ensue when it is introduced…

my goal is to protect me and mine
once it’s known to be safe and effective, we will get it as soon as we can

i dont care (right now) what other people dont do

i’ll worry about the greater societal problem after

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:16:41am

re: #355 plansbandc

It’s what we all knew.

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Read the entire sub-thread.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:18:12am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

When he refuses, inherent contempt is in order. If anything upsets me about the Democratic response to this, it’s the unwillingness to put these asshats in the clink for refusing Congressional subpoenas.

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John Hughes  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:19:28am

re: #344 Decatur Deb

This is the core of the problem, which is touched further up the thread. If the purpose is to develop a preventive, preventing infection in the young healthy sample does the job.

Disagree. It would show that it prevents infection in young, healthy people.

You’re still going to have to test it on “brittle” groups to see if it works there.

If it fails in that sample, the consequences are bad enough, but far less deadly. Nothing much is learned by failing on a sample we know is more brittle.

Assuming that by “fails” you mean provides no significant protection then I don’t see how the consequences are bad. The people on the trial are no worse off than the people not on the trial, assuming they haven’t been indulging in risky behaviour because they think the vaccine will protect them. The trial should certainly emphasise that half the people on the trial are on a placebo.

If by “fails” you mean “kills the people on the trial stone dead” then I don’t see why it matters whether the people are in the “brittle” group or not.

If you don’t test the potential vaccine on the “brittle” group and it turns out the vaccine works then you’ve withheld the vaccine from some people who could have been helped.

Anyway, it’s clear we disagree on this one, so I’m going to shut up now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:19:47am

re: #368 dangerman

my goal is to protect me and mine
once it’s known to be safe and effective, we will get it as soon as we can

i dont care (right now) what other people dont do

i’ll worry about the greater societal problem after

yes, I want to see my people protected, but a lot of people who cannot be vaccinated are going to get sick because people fear 5G nanoprobe tracers…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:20:29am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:21:21am

re: #362 Decatur Deb

Swear him in on a Marvel comic.

“I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me Iron Man.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:21:47am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

The thing that Republicans don’t seen to get is that most Americans would vote for a ham sandwich over trump right now. Most people in Texas know someone personally who has or died from COVID19. There’s no spinning that.

Herman Cain died.

Wilbur Ross? If it goes the way Cain did…

Gohmert? Please go with God.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:23:01am

re: #375 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The thing that Republicans don’t seen to get is that most Americans would vote for a ham sandwich over trump right now. Most people in Texas know someone personally who has or died from COVID19. There’s no spinning that.

Herman Cain died.

Wilbur Ross? If it goes the way Cain did…

Gohmert? Please go with God.

I am beginning to wonder if Gohmert is faking it so he can then claim a miracle cure with hydrochloroquackazine

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John Hughes  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:24:54am

re: #355 plansbandc

“Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically.”

Fuck, not only are these guys evil, they’re also stupid.

“had hit blue states hardest”.

“Had”, you morons. That means “in the past”. Why did you assume (incorrectly as it turned out) that the future would be the same as the past? You really thought the virus checked people’s political affiliation?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:25:34am

re: #362 Decatur Deb

Swear him in on a Marvel comic.

I’ll use a copy of the Constitution. I did that when I affirmed my office on the village board.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:26:28am

re: #376 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am beginning to wonder if Gohmert is faking it so he can then claim a miracle cure with hydrochloroquackazine

More likely that he has it but it’s the asymptomatic kind. The HCQ is a given though. But he’s still preaching to the choir. Most doctors won’t hand it out like candy. No matter what, it’s more some big win.

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:27:57am

re: #377 John Hughes

Evil and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:28:32am

I was pleasantly surprised to see this on YouTube - a review of the 2021 Škoda Octavia station wagon.

The only car you really need: Skoda Octavia 2021 review

It is a very good car.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:28:53am

re: #368 dangerman

my goal is to protect me and mine
once it’s known to be safe and effective, we will get it as soon as we can

i dont care (right now) what other people dont do

i’ll worry about the greater societal problem after

On such an offer Wife and I would probably choose to take it, but the risk decision would come after a good bit of digging into the testing and into the background of whatever developers. There is a reason McConnell is insisting on liability relief in the second stimulus bill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:29:02am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:29:42am

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because you’re an idiot. Everything about Rep. Louis’s funeral included the best knowledge to stave off the virus, including social distancing and masks.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:30:39am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:31:43am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s like they just sit in front of the computer running continuous searches for “gun”

See also a) Jordan Peterson fans when his ideas are attacked, and b) libertarians when theirs are.

I swear someone has created some sort of scanning program to look for that.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:33:07am

re: #339 makeitstop

Dunno about you guys, but I’d totally rock some Fyre Festival merch at this point.

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Damn, I see some of the hats bid up to $115.00 WTF

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:35:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:35:37am
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John Hughes  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:36:18am

re: #380 plansbandc

Evil and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

< Jared > Works for my Father in Law < /Jared >

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:37:56am

re: #381 Dr Lizardo

I was pleasantly surprised to see this on YouTube - a review of the 2021 Škoda Octavia station wagon.

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It is a very good car.

We saw a ton of Škodas when we were in Brussels. Most of the taxis were Škoda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:38:39am
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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:38:59am

re: #385 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

You pulled most of the goons out, and things calmed down.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:39:57am

Masks won’t be required in Omaha, Douglas County health director says (Breaking at the Omaha World-Herald)

Douglas County’s health director said Friday that the Nebraska Attorney General’s Office challenged her ability to implement a mask requirement in Omaha, so she is backing off her plan to do so.

Adi Pour said she will continue to review data every day, “but for now, I have to trust everybody in this community to do the right thing moving ahead.”

(more)

Good luck with that.

The state government is still continuing to threaten lawsuits and withholding of federal aid if any sort of health initiative is adopted contrary to conservative religious orthodoxy. Omaha mayor Jean Stothert (R) previously noted the city charter allows the combined city-county health board to impose emergency health measures.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:39:58am

re: #387 Eventual Carrion

Damn, I see some of the hats bid up to $115.00 WTF

Okay, I’m not that into rocking that shit. :)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:40:35am

re: #381 Dr Lizardo

I was pleasantly surprised to see this on YouTube - a review of the 2021 Škoda Octavia station wagon.

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It is a very good car.

That’s a pretty nice car. Not the prettiest but functionally sound. I like it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:41:06am

re: #394 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I want genocide trials. Not a truth and reconciliation commission.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:41:36am

re: #382 Decatur Deb

On such an offer Wife and I would probably choose to take it, but the risk decision would come after a good bit of digging into the testing and into the background of whatever developers. There is a reason McConnell is insisting on liability relief in the second stimulus bill.

If accept liability relief for drug manufacturers but not general business.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:42:06am

re: #391 makeitstop

We saw a ton of Škodas when we were in Brussels. Most of the taxis were Škoda.

They’re very good cars. It’s too bad they don’t sell them in the US. A friend of mine came to visit a few years back and she rented a Škoda Octavia and she fell in love with it. She called it “the ultimate commuter car.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:44:39am

re: #396 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s a pretty nice car. Not the prettiest but functionally sound. I like it.

It’s a practical car, a daily driver. As much as I love sports cars or even old Toyota pickups, if I had the money, I’d go with something like that Škoda.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:46:37am

re: #399 Dr Lizardo

They’re very good cars. It’s too bad they don’t sell them in the US. A friend of mine came to visit a few years back and she rented a Škoda Octavia and she fell in love with it. She called it “the ultimate commuter car.”

I personally love station wagons. I grew up with them, and my 2002 Ford Focus was really a miniature one. It did exactly what I needed it to do: drive and carry stuff. It just felt like it had more room than even my wife’s current SUV.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:46:41am

re: #398 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If accept liability relief for drug manufacturers but not general business.

“If” Typo? The threat of liability is even more important in an environment of relaxed FDA/Gov oversight, critical rush, and vast monetary reward.

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Nojay UK  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:47:23am

re: #400 Dr Lizardo

The big problem with Skodas is that if you’re driving around in a city centre in the UK at night and you stop at traffic lights, a couple of drunks will open the back door and try to get in. They’re the default mini-cab car over here — cheap, reliable four-door cars, economical to fuel and to run.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:49:31am

re: #401 Belafon

I personally love station wagons. I grew up with them, and my 2002 Ford Focus was really a miniature one. It did exactly what I needed it to do: drive and carry stuff. It just felt like it had more room than even my wife’s current SUV.

I love ‘em too. My all-time favorite car that I owned was a 1991 Volvo 740 wagon.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:49:54am

Just a quick anecdote re: mail in voting and the nonsense that it is not monitored or regulated: We moved to Colorado in the summer of 2016. We registered to vote shortly after arriving. For those unaware, Colorado has 100% mail in voting. The November presidential election rolls around, and my wife and I mailed in our ballots. My wife’s ballot was not counted because the signature on her envelope was apparently somewhat different than the copy of the signature the voting commission had on file (at least that was the suspicion, as we both put our ballots in the same drop box).

On top of that, in Colorado, you don’t drop the ballots in any particular mail receptacle. There are specific drop boxes exclusively for ballots. While I understand that states that don’t have wide spread mail in balloting might have difficulty rolling out that feature, the point is that it allows for rapid and secure collection of mail in ballots. (And of course, a sane country that actually care about people’s safety during a pandemic AND cared about election integrity would be sending money to states in order to set up mail in ballot drop boxes).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:50:44am

I’m going to bow out and take a nap. Catch y’all later.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:51:02am

re: #403 Nojay UK

The big problem with Skodas is that if you’re driving around in a city centre in the UK at night and you stop at traffic lights, a couple of drunks will open the back door and try to get in. They’re the default mini-cab car over here — cheap, reliable four-door cars, economical to fuel and to run.

Heh. One of my students has a 2018 Octavia wagon and she swears by it. She’ll run it until the wheels fall off.

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plansbandc  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:51:06am

If you need something to watch that will warm the cockles of your black black heart, watch “Love on the Spectrum” on Netflix.

I just started watching it and OMG. I love every person in the show.

I cannot recommend it highly enough.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:51:26am

re: #402 Decatur Deb

“If” Typo? The threat of liability is even more important in an environment of relaxed FDA/Gov oversight, critical rush, and vast monetary reward.

I’d. Sorry.

I get what you’re saying but pharma especially needs to have some kind of relief because your always have X percent of people who have adverse reactions, etc.

There’s a fine line for drugs because of that.

With that said, I wouldn’t trust anything that has any relation to anything Republican because we are all expendable to them.

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:51:29am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:58:06am

She’s baaaack (for a limited time engagement).

Asks AOC to adopt her.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 9:58:16am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:01:49am

re: #385 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Wow, that dog quit biting me once I quit poking it in the eye. Will wonders never cease.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:02:10am

Coming over the wires that British film maker Alan Parker has died at the age of 76. Some of his more notable films were Angel Heart, Pink Floyd -The Wall, Midnight Express Angela’s Ashes and Mississippi Burning.

RIP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:06:26am

re: #414 Dr Lizardo

Coming over the wires that British film maker Alan Parker has died at the age of 76. Some of his more notable films were Angel Heart, Pink Floyd -The Wall, Midnight Express Angela’s Ashes and Mississippi Burning.

RIP.

and The Commitments

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:06:45am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:07:10am

re: #403 Nojay UK

The big problem with Skodas is that if you’re driving around in a city centre in the UK at night and you stop at traffic lights, a couple of drunks will open the back door and try to get in. They’re the default mini-cab car over here — cheap, reliable four-door cars, economical to fuel and to run.

Oh well, charge them a few bucks and take them where they want to go.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:09:40am

re: #355 plansbandc

It’s what we all knew.

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I read that article yesterday. Jared runs everything likes it’s a group project for Business 101, fully expecting someone else to do the work.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:12:44am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:15:37am
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🌹UOJB!  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:18:12am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Isn’t that cute? The Green Hornet forgot his mask…

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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:19:31am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He seems a little pissy.

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451_Montag  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:20:20am

re: #414 Dr Lizardo

Coming over the wires that British film maker Alan Parker has died at the age of 76. Some of his more notable films were Angel Heart, Pink Floyd -The Wall, Midnight Express Angela’s Ashes and Mississippi Burning.

RIP.

Pants

I really like his work. Saw Angel Heart in the cinema when I was 17.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:21:27am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

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fwiw, trump is losing in a lot of the disreputable polls too

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:21:51am
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Jay C  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:22:40am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, Trump may not be completely wrong here: this election IS shaping up to be a historic disaster.

For him personally, and the GOP……

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:22:43am

re: #422 makeitstop

He seems a little pissy.

more and more people are going to start pointing out, to his face, that he’s losing (badly)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:24:41am
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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:24:51am

so it’s permanent

Duke’s Twitter account was “permanently suspended” for violating the company’s policy against hateful conduct, a spokesperson for the social network says.

cnet

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:25:06am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

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In 300 years “beaten like a Trump” will be a proverbial figure of speech for what we call a righteous ass-whupping. Audiences will break into giggles at the mere mention of “two-thousand twenty Republicans.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:26:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:26:45am
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William Lewis  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:27:32am

So a friend of a friend (heh) has a 16 year old in a band called Mice On Mercury. They just dropped a nice little bit called “Stranger”. I like it, give it a listen if you have a moment.

Stranger

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:27:39am
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makeitstop  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:28:19am

re: #431 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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They look so happy! Good for them.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:28:40am

re: #427 dangerman

more and more people are going to start pointing out, to his face, that he’s losing (badly)

The White House staff probably can’t even manipulate their internal polls enough to soothe his fragile ego.

Someone needs to sit him down and explain, “You’re gonna get your ass handed to you. Seriously, Mr. President, this is gonna be a whuppin’ that’s gonna go down in the history books. Your name is going to be up there with Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis. You’re going to the shit kicked out of you, and there’s nothing you can do, nothing you can say, that will prevent that. Your presidency is over, for all intents and purposes and you have no one to blame but yourself.”

Of course, I’m almost 100% sure that no one, not even Ivanka, has the guts to do it.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:28:48am
438
Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:28:52am

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read somewhere that Republicans have stopped internal polling on Trump. So he might not know what’s actually going on because they might be lying to him.

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lawhawk  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:29:01am

Democide. That’s the term you’re looking for to describe Kushner’s covid19 plan. He was using a pandemic to harm Trump’s political rivals. The result is homicide of 155k and counting.

…”the intentional killing of an unarmed or disarmed person by government agents acting in their authoritative capacity and pursuant to government policy or high command”.[2] According to him, this definition covers a wide range of deaths, including forced labor and concentration camp victims; killings by “unofficial” private groups; extrajudicial summary killings; and mass deaths due to governmental acts of criminal omission and neglect, such as in deliberate famines, as well as killings by de facto governments, i.e. civil war killings.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:29:29am
441
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:32:38am
442
Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:33:55am

re: #438 Belafon

I read somewhere that Republicans have stopped internal polling on Trump. So he might not know what’s actually going on because they might be lying to him.

Genuinely curious, but why on earth would they do something so dumb? I’d imagine they’d want to know where they stand.

Who knows….maybe they find it all too depressing to face.

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Teddy's Person  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:34:12am

re: #436 Dr Lizardo

The White House staff probably can’t even manipulate their internal polls enough to soothe his fragile ego.

Someone needs to sit him down and explain, “You’re gonna get your ass handed to you. Seriously, Mr. President, this is gonna be a whuppin’ that’s gonna go down in the history books. You’re name is going to be up there with Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis. You’re going to the shit kicked out of you, and there’s nothing you can do, nothing you can say, that will prevent that. Your presidency is over, for all intents and purposes and you have no one to blame but yourself.”

Of course, I’m almost 100% sure that no one, not even Ivanka, has the guts to do it.

Ivanka’s not going to do it ‘cause she’s still got some grifting to do. Once she feels she and Jared have hovered up all the cash they can, she’ll leave DC and daddy to fend for himself.

I read an interview with that comedian (Noel something) who worked on the Apprentice. He said Ivanka is the same if not worse than her father, and she knows how to manipulate him. He said that breathy baby voice she uses is for her father. Most times her voice was an octave lower, and she swore like a sailor (not that there’s anything wrong with that).

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Mike Lamb  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:34:19am

re: #424 dangerman

fwiw, trump is losing in a lot of the disreputable polls too

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So Democrat’s are going to lose, but it’s going to be “the greatest election disaster in history”? Wait…I guess that tracks…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:35:01am

re: #441 Backwoods_Sleuth

For a moment there, I thought Charlie Kirk had died from Covid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:35:02am
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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:36:11am

re: #355 plansbandc

It’s what we all knew.

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they are truly this vile and amoral.

and truly this dumb?
thinking the virus would hop over red states and respect the borders of blue states?

it’s an extra special kind of dumb.

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William Lewis  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:36:39am

So the governor of Wisconsin has finally made indoor masks mandatory.

And of course, the GOP senate majority leader is already shrieking about passing legislation to override it because not enough voters will die if they wear masks.

FreeDUMB.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:37:18am

re: #417 Eventual Carrion

Oh well, charge them a few bucks and take them where they want to go.

Not if they puke all over your back seat and then punch you in lieu of a fare

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:37:39am

re: #299 makeitstop

Hell, he makes Oldman’s pill-chomping cop from The Professional look like a nice guy.

Gary Oldman - “Leon the Professional” “everyone” scene (HD)

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:37:56am

re: #434 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Sure Donny, why worry about doing your job. Worry about retaining your job that you refuse to do competently.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:38:17am

re: #434 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

is he never coherent?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:39:18am

re: #434 Backwoods_Sleuth

Asked for his thoughts on Hong Kong delaying its election, Trump says, “Ahh. I want to right now focus on this election. I’ll have a statement about that soon. I heard that, that they did the delay in Hong Kong, and we’ll have a statement about that. But I want to focus on this.”

“What’s good for Xi is good for me!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:40:45am
455
A Mom Anon  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:41:09am

re: #439 lawhawk

A legal question(s), Sorry if these have been asked and answered. Or if it’s me being a doofus.

Does the US have anything in place that allows for a Truth And Reconciliation type mechanism of handing this? Or something, anything that allows for exposing the depth of these crimes to the American people? I guess it could look like a Grand Jury on steroids (considering how many people are involved) only it would be a public and not behind closed doors.

Then there’s the matter of actual criminal trials. Since Barr is leading the Justice Dept for now, that puts a stop to anything on a federal level for awhile. Could states or groups of states bring charges? What would those charges be? There have to be a bunch to choose from. As a layperson I have trouble grasping how they keep getting away with this shit with zero consequences.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:43:20am
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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:43:30am

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

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as long as people keep saying “they’re the same”, he’s gonna have to drop this nonsense argument

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danarchy  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:48:04am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This just doesn’t compute for me. If the protests did not increase the spread of covid then what is the reason for limiting any outdoor activity? Why would it spread more effectively on a beach for instance?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:49:36am

...

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:50:11am
461
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:50:31am

re: #458 danarchy

This just doesn’t compute for me. If the protests did not increase the spread of covid then what is the reason for limiting any outdoor activity? Why would it spread more effectively on a beach for instance?

wearing masks

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:51:30am

re: #458 danarchy

This just doesn’t compute for me. If the protests did not increase the spread of covid then what is the reason for limiting any outdoor activity? Why would it spread more effectively on a beach for instance?

people are not keeping six feet apart on the sand

plus - waiting in lines -
congregating around where food is sold
bathrooms
in the water

on and on

463
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:52:19am
464
Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:52:29am

re: #458 danarchy

This just doesn’t compute for me. If the protests did not increase the spread of covid then what is the reason for limiting any outdoor activity? Why would it spread more effectively on a beach for instance?

I can’t tell, but was the camp mentioned in #454 indoor or outdoor?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:53:25am

re: #461 Backwoods_Sleuth

wearing masks

Also being careful about social distancing.

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dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:53:56am

re: #462 dangerman

people are not keeping six feet apart on the sand

plus - waiting in lines -
congregating around where food is sold
bathrooms
in the water

on and on

and this

re: #461 Backwoods_Sleuth

wearing masks

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:54:35am

re: #461 Backwoods_Sleuth

wearing masks

Images from the protests show almost universal mask wearing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:55:42am

re: #464 Belafon

I can’t tell, but was the camp mentioned in #454 indoor or outdoor?

They had cabins, with indoor and outdoor activities. Cadre wore masks, campers did not
The paper is very short, you should read it

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garzooma  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:55:53am

re: #458 danarchy

This just doesn’t compute for me. If the protests did not increase the spread of covid then what is the reason for limiting any outdoor activity? Why would it spread more effectively on a beach for instance?

I don’t think that going to the beach is all that dangerous. For instance, this risk estimator puts it at a 5 on a 1-9 scale.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:56:42am

re: #464 Belafon

I can’t tell, but was the camp mentioned in #454 indoor or outdoor?

from the link:

Camp A adopted most† components of CDC’s Suggestions for Youth and Summer Camps§ to minimize the risk for SARS-CoV-2 introduction and transmission. Measures not implemented were cloth masks for campers and opening windows and doors for increased ventilation in buildings. Cloth masks were required for staff members. Camp attendees were cohorted by cabin and engaged in a variety of indoor and outdoor activities, including daily vigorous singing and cheering.

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Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:56:48am

re: #468 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

They had cabins, with indoor and outdoor activities. Cadre wore masks, campers did not
The paper is very short, you should read it

Thanks. I will later.

472
dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:57:06am

Kayleigh McEnany said from the White House podium that the postponement “undermines the democratic processes and freedoms that have underpinned Hong Kong’s prosperity, and this is only the most recent in a growing list of broken promises by Beijing.”

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:57:20am

re: #464 Belafon

I can’t tell, but was the camp mentioned in #454 indoor or outdoor?

Dunno, but if it’s overnight, they surely have a mess hall, bathrooms, tents to sleep in…

Looks like they also had a superspreader.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:58:57am

re: #458 danarchy

This just doesn’t compute for me. If the protests did not increase the spread of covid then what is the reason for limiting any outdoor activity? Why would it spread more effectively on a beach for instance?

I would offer that the spike in infections occurring with beaches reopening had more to do with the activity of “going to the beach” and all that ensues than “being on a beach”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 10:59:37am

re: #469 garzooma

I don’t think that going to the beach is all that dangerous. For instance, this risk estimator puts it at a 5 on a 1-9 scale.

if people take reasonable precautions, I would agree ,but the photos I’ve seen of beaches have people packed in so much you can barely see the sand.
not to mention lots of alcohol…

476
Nojay UK  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:01:19am

re: #469 garzooma

That scale is… how does it rate running naked and screaming through an intensive-care hospital ward full of sick COVID-19 patients? Is that an 8 or a 9?

Basically doing anything you don’t absolutely have to do that rates a 5 is crazy, especially since beach-going is not the sort of thing you wear protection for (other than sunblock and shark repellent). Even a 3-level activity would have me wrapped up like a mummy and breathing through a mask that makes me sound like Darth Vader.

477
Eventual Carrion  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:02:17am

re: #458 danarchy

This just doesn’t compute for me. If the protests did not increase the spread of covid then what is the reason for limiting any outdoor activity? Why would it spread more effectively on a beach for instance?

You’re missing one main component of the scenario, masks.

478
jaunte  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:04:01am

re: #440 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Looks like a relative!

479
dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:07:35am

re: #476 Nojay UK

That scale is… how does it rate running naked and screaming through an intensive-care hospital ward full of sick COVID-19 patients? Is that an 8 or a 9?

Basically doing anything you don’t absolutely have to do that rates a 5 is crazy, especially since beach-going is not the sort of thing you wear protection for (other than sunblock and shark repellent). Even a 3-level activity would have me wrapped up like a mummy and breathing through a mask that makes me sound like Darth Vader.

100%

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:09:00am
481
Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:11:03am

re: #475 Backwoods_Sleuth

if people take reasonable precautions, I would agree ,but the photos I’ve seen of beaches have people packed in so much you can barely see the sand.
not to mention lots of alcohol…

This. Being outdoors is typically very low risk since the vast majority of time you have plenty of room to space out. It’s when you’re in an area packed tight like sardines for an extended period that outdoor transmission becomes a significant risk. Throw in some cheering and yelling and…

Also, with regards to the Portland protesters, three important points:

1. Most all wore masks
2. Very few stayed in one place for a prolonged period of time
3. They did a good job of keeping distance from one another.

482
Belafon  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:13:39am

re: #481 Eclectic Cyborg

Even the nude protester wore a mask.

483
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:14:16am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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🌹UOJB!  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:15:17am

re: #480 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why would anyone link Cruella to Phony Joni?

That’s an insult to poor innocent Cruella!

485
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:15:31am
486
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:15:55am

Welp she just lost her phone/Twitter privileges again. But what a glorious burn it was.

487
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:16:35am

re: #483 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Damn deleted retweets

488
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:19:33am

With all that data seeming to show that all the protests haven’t significantly contributed to the rise in COVID infection, I’m surprised DHS isn’t making the anecdotal claim the CS might kill the virus

/s/

489
Teddy's Person  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:23:01am

Sulu weighs in on the existential debate of heaven and hell.

490
jaunte  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:23:26am
491
plansbandc  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:23:46am

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love him so so much.

492
Charles Johnson  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:25:58am
493
jaunte  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:25:59am
494
dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:26:38am

re: #476 Nojay UK

That scale is… how does it rate running naked and screaming through an intensive-care hospital ward full of sick COVID-19 patients? Is that an 8 or a 9?

Basically doing anything you don’t absolutely have to do that rates a 5 is crazy, especially since beach-going is not the sort of thing you wear protection for (other than sunblock and shark repellent). Even a 3-level activity would have me wrapped up like a mummy and breathing through a mask that makes me sound like Darth Vader.

the common theme in all the stories - churches, bars, parties, beaches, tulsa, etc, is not merely the defiance in not taking the appropriate precautions (distance, masks, washing).

it is that coupled with a total unwillingness, or inability, or refusal to accept and understand the risks involved and then soberly assessing and evaluating if your actions are worth the risk. (going to work; maybe a necessary risk. the beach, the bar? never). These people dont see or understand that their number one objective is to keep their people alive.

the virus is spreading. it will continue to for a very long time. it’s not stopped, it is not controlled.

These are the risks - NOTHING has changed:
Anyone can get it
Anyone can survive it
Anyone can die from it

doesn’t matter where you live, who your parents are, how much money you got, where you went or go to school, what your job is, your politics, gender, race, color, age, vegan or gluten status, how ‘in shape you are’, what your favorite tv show is, what the #1 movie was the year you turned 18…

the virus doesn’t care why you’re congregating in a group - whether it be church, bar or beach or whatever.

495
plansbandc  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:29:32am

re: #492 Charles Johnson

You might have discovered a whole new delicious and nutritious brew!

496
Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:29:48am

re: #487 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

No WAY.

497
sagehen  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:30:42am

re: #458 danarchy

This just doesn’t compute for me. If the protests did not increase the spread of covid then what is the reason for limiting any outdoor activity? Why would it spread more effectively on a beach for instance?

How many of those beachgoers got there in a carpool? Then passed around the bottle or the pipe with the whole group.

498
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:31:01am

the orange moron just retweeted this

and, no, Dr. Fauci did not say that

499
Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:31:18am

re: #492 Charles Johnson

Spider-Charles,
Spider-Charles,
Does whatever a spider….

Not really sure to go with that.

/

500
dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:31:57am

re: #481 Eclectic Cyborg

This. Being outdoors is typically very low risk since the vast majority of time you have plenty of room to space out…

i dont wear a mask when i run

one of the benefits of the county turning the park down the street into a testing station - people arent hanging around the park anymore. i have my running routes all to myself now.

before that, i could pass 10 or more people in a morning (even before 7:am) and had very mixed feeling about how close to get / how far to stay. i ended up giving almost everyone a very wide berth.

who has it? who doesnt? can you tell by looking? are athletes less prone? (no). what if someone i see every morning says “i’m ok you dont have to cross the road…” (i dont care i do it anyway)

p.s. today my running streak hit 112 days

501
Jay C  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:32:04am

re: #495 plansbandc

You might have discovered a whole new delicious and nutritious brew!

Somehow I don’t think “Brown Recluse” is going to be a popular handle
for a coffee blend….

502
dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:32:58am

re: #486 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Welp she just lost her phone/Twitter privileges again. But what a glorious burn it was.

[Embedded content]

they wont be doing thanksgiving for a while, right?

503
jaunte  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:33:06am

re: #501 Jay C

“Original Silk Blend”

504
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:33:06am

re: #501 Jay C

Somehow I don’t think “Brown Recluse” is going to be a popular handle
for a coffee blend….

good name for a quarantine blend, though

505
Nojay UK  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:33:43am

re: #496 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh yes, very clearly a fake — where did the audio come from on what looks like a regular traffic surveillance camera? Who was tracking the camera to follow the escaping car? Did you notice how fast the Jeep-type vehicle headed off, accelerating like a Formula 1 race car? Cute though.

506
jaunte  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:35:07am
507
plansbandc  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:36:29am

Dude and I are going to go drive around a bit.

Check out this ridiculous leg action:

508
dangerman  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:38:30am

re: #492 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

this very thing happened to me years ago
no powers - im guessing i got a defective spider

509
Eventual Carrion  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:39:31am

re: #501 Jay C

Somehow I don’t think “Brown Recluse” is going to be a popular handle
for a coffee blend….

“Bold Recluse” might work. Run it by the focus group.

510
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:39:38am

re: #502 dangerman

they wont be doing thanksgiving for a while, right?

[Embedded content]

If they do, it’ll be on the bit awkward side I imagine.

511
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:42:14am

re: #505 Nojay UK

Oh yes, very clearly a fake — where did the audio come from on what looks like a regular traffic surveillance camera? Who was tracking the camera to follow the escaping car? Did you notice how fast the Jeep-type vehicle headed off, accelerating like a Formula 1 race car? Cute though.

I was thinking more on the lines of some sort of stunt from a movie instead of a fake. The SUV appeared to be intentionally spinning to hit the back of the trailer before impact..

512
Dr Lizardo  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:42:25am

re: #501 Jay C

Somehow I don’t think “Brown Recluse” is going to be a popular handle
for a coffee blend….

“Black Widow”…….it’s the coffee that bites back.

513
Nojay UK  Jul 31, 2020 • 11:56:10am

re: #511 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

There are other things that don’t add up — the vehicle transporter doesn’t show any sign of reacting to being hit by the SUV, for example. The video was shot in the United Kingdom given the “driving on the correct side of the road” deal plus things like the “dual carriageway” sign and road markings visible in the clip. The police car, though, doesn’t have ID markings on its roof as they all do, as far as I can tell (for observation from police helicopters during a pursuit, typically).

514
danarchy  Jul 31, 2020 • 12:05:40pm

re: #465 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Also being careful about social distancing.

Did you watch the protests? there was no social distancing. Mask usage certainly wasn’t ubiquitous, although probably more than beach goers

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 31, 2020 • 1:51:09pm

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

…Of course, I expect there will be some rats, like Stephen Miller for instance, who will probably choose to go down with the ship.

Miller: “Le ship c’est moi”


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Norah Jones - to Live "To Live" is taken from Norah's newest album 'Pick Me Up Off The Floor,' out now and available to stream/download here: norahjones.lnk.to Connect with Norah:norahjones.cominstagram.comfacebook.com@NorahJones See Norah live: norahjones.com Music video by Norah Jones performing To Live. © 2020 ...
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Future Islands - for Sure (Official Video) 'For Sure' by Future Islands, out now on all platforms: futureislands.ffm.to A Film by Samuel Jerome MasonFinishing by John HarrisonRendered with GarageFarmSpecial Thanks to Anna, Jemima, Mike, Willy, Saad, Eric, Arsen Perish the painI was impoverishedThose ties that windAnd ...
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Andrew McMahon in the Wilderness - Get on My Wave I wrote and produced “Get On My Wave” with Kyle “King Tuff” Thomas the day we met last summer. I’ve struggled with releasing the song during the pandemic because it felt too happy; detached from the tumult of our ...
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