Amazing Fretwork by Marcin: Moonlight Sonata on One Guitar

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Moonlight Sonata arranged and performed by Marcin (from the 1st and 3rd movements).
Listen & download the single ‘Moonlight Sonata’ here: marcin.lnk.to
Tabs & Sheet Music available on: marcinofficial.com

He possesses dynamic and dazzling virtuosity, a uniquely percussive style – “I use the body of my guitar to produce kicks, snares, scratches” – and awe-inspiring ingenuity as an arranger and producer across multiple styles and genres. So it is little surprise that Sony Music Masterworks signed young Polish guitarist Marcin almost immediately upon hearing him. Now, for his eagerly anticipated first single on the label, the 19-year-old guitar superstar releases his own innovative arrangement of the first and third movements of Beethoven’s famous ‘Moonlight Sonata’.

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Video Concept: Marcin
Production Company: TOMASENS @tomasenscru
Video producers: Marcin, TOMASENS
Production Assistant: DF - Zdanowski
Editing: TOMASENS
Opening Captions: Empadé Design Studio
Makeup: Kinga Puchała
Special Thanks: Kielce Cathedral Administration, Robert Malicki, Piotr & Lidia Patrzałek

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Release date: 26 June 2020

© 2020 Sony Masterworks, a division of Sony Music Entertainment.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:21:12pm

FT

(Need I say more?)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:21:50pm

GOTV!

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jaunte  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:28:54pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:31:23pm
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jaunte  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:34:40pm

I have paid into Social Security since 1971. Still working. That is my money.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:37:53pm

re: #5 jaunte

I have paid into Social Security since 1987. Still working. That is my money.

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William Lewis  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:38:59pm

re: #5 jaunte

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I have paid into Social Security since 1971. Still working. That is my money.

Ive been paying in since 1982 as Reagan began the plundering. I have never expected to get a penny back from them.

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plansbandc  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:49:31pm

CL’d so very hard.

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mmmirele  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:54:01pm

re: #8 plansbandc

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:56:44pm

re: #8 plansbandc

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:56:54pm
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calochortus  Aug 9, 2020 • 8:59:44pm

Is there any chance at all that we won’t be wearing masks in Dec.? I have a sudden urge to make a bunch of holiday themed masks. That’s perfectly normal, right?

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:11:38pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

I’m really having trouble seeing high school sports continuing, but I know states like Texas will give it a try.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:12:32pm

Damn. Didn’t know about this!

Sacha Baron Cohen Alerted FBI After Seemingly Uncovering A Pedophile Ring During Filming Of ‘Who Is America?’

etcanada.com

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:14:10pm

re: #13 Belafon

I live in Texas. Here, football is more important than life itself.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:15:10pm

re: #15 Ace Rothstein

I live in Texas. Here, football is more important than life itself.

Just like Western Pennsylvania where Football is the REAL Religion!

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plansbandc  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:15:28pm

re: #14 🌹UOJB!

JFC

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:16:07pm

re: #12 calochortus

Is there any chance at all that we won’t be wearing masks in Dec.? I have a sudden urge to make a bunch of holiday themed masks. That’s perfectly normal, right?

That’s the new normal.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:17:32pm

re: #17 plansbandc

JFC

And according to Cohen, the FBI chose not to pursue the matter.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:17:55pm

re: #15 Ace Rothstein

I live in Texas. Here, football is more important than life itself.

i live in the Metroplex, and the season so far has just been pushed back to start at the end of September, and ending a month later than usual, nearly the end of the year. But I think that’s going to change.

Edited

The autocorrect on this one was weird.

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calochortus  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:20:51pm

re: #18 Belafon

That’s the new normal.

At least for people with brains.

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jaunte  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:22:43pm

re: #20 Belafon

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:23:36pm

re: #21 calochortus

At least for people with brains.

I still see people putting up things on Facebook about how the disease is going to suddenly disappear on November 4th or January 22nd.

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jaunte  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:26:51pm
@cmclymer
When folks say high school football is a religion in Texas, it’s only about 10% humor and exaggeration. It’s as close to religion as you get without actually being a religion.

Way more than health, that’s for sure.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:27:16pm

...

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calochortus  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:27:27pm

re: #23 Belafon

I still see people putting up things on Facebook about how the disease is going to suddenly disappear on November 4th or January 22nd.

Yeah, well if it disappears in January, we can still wear festive masks in Dec. November, not so much.

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Belafon  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:29:18pm
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plansbandc  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:31:13pm

I said to dude that I thought it was funny how it’s been anywhere from 90 to 100 over the past few weeks and yet the virus hasn’t disappeared. In fact case keep going up here.

I fully expect the next thing will be, oh, the virus will go away once it gets cold.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:36:30pm

re: #28 plansbandc

Which is hilarious (not really) because the virus transmits more easily indoors.

Guess where people spend a LOT of time in the winter?

Also, seasonal flu will be around too.

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plansbandc  Aug 9, 2020 • 9:52:02pm

The visuals alone would compel me to watch “The Umbrella Academy” how have I not known about this show until now?

Damn.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 9, 2020 • 10:11:30pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 9, 2020 • 10:14:21pm

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 9, 2020 • 10:39:03pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 9, 2020 • 10:55:59pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 9, 2020 • 11:04:56pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 9, 2020 • 11:06:37pm

Ultimate LOL of LOL’s:

TikTok and Twitter are in talks about the possibility of joining forces. A report from the Wall Street Journal says that the two popular social media platforms are having preliminary discussions.

Representatives from both Twitter and TikTok declined to comment, with TikTok’s, Josh Gartner, head of corporate communications saying, “we don’t comment on market rumors.”

The WSJ said a number of companies, including Apple, Google, and Facebook have expressed interest in the China-based app, but none have publicly announced their interest.

thegrio.com

Acquiring TikTok would be ideal for Twitter. And Trump would be apoplectic. What’s Trump gonna do….ban Twitter? 🤣

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 9, 2020 • 11:10:49pm
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sagehen  Aug 9, 2020 • 11:15:30pm

re: #19 A Three Hour Tour

And according to Cohen, the FBI chose not to pursue the matter.

hypothesis: maybe the concierge also called the FBI, to report this creepy hotel guest who was making requests that sounded too sketchy to just ignore.

(like that Acorn staffer who called the cops about the person O’Keefe was pretending to be).

The FBI isn’t going to be publicly discussing it if they got reports from BOTH sides of the meeting, but that footage will never air.

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piratedan  Aug 9, 2020 • 11:22:50pm

a couple of threads back, we saw a tweet where the more “passionate” members of Rose Twitter propose to create and craft a new political party. I for one would applaud them doing so. I would love for them to start the hard work of developing a platform and finding passionate people to stand with their banner. I would adore them taking their message to the voters, win and earn their trust weighing on all issues, local, state and national.

Because that takes hard work and I would relish watching them do that work to prove us all wrong. We need passionate voices, we need a national discussion, we need to have a discussion about what good government is and to be able to have that discussion civilly and I would enjoy giving them that opportunity to make their case on their own rather than continually sniping at a party that doesn’t represent them and ignores them.

I suspect that they’re simply full of shit though.

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boredtechindenver  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:10:37am

CL’d myself:

re: #3 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Here’s my latest entry in the things-that-grow-from-tiny-cracks-in-the-sidewalk sweepstakes.

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In the top picture, plant on the right, what is this plant? It showed up in my yard, but I don’t know what it is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:27:49am

re: #29 Eclectic Cyborg

Which is hilarious (not really) because the virus transmits more easily indoors.

Guess where people spend a LOT of time in the winter?

Also, seasonal flu will be around too.

which will be used to mask true covid numbers…

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:31:44am

re: #33 Dread Pirate Ron

“WASH­ING­TON—A fed­eral agency has put a planned $765 mil­lion loan to East­man Ko­dak Co. on hold af­ter the deal came un­der con­gres­sional and reg­u­la­tory scru­tiny.”

People need to go to jail. Not talkin’ about weed growers.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:35:51am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

which will be used to mask true covid numbers…

By then faking the numbers won’t matter. After election day, dead is just dead and there will be too many to ignore.

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ericblair  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:40:34am

Looks like the Biden campaign gets that the dirtbag left are not our friends.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:41:44am

re: #43 Decatur Deb

By then faking the numbers won’t matter. After election day, dead is just dead and there will be too many to ignore.

you have a point there, Trump will have less need to fudge statistics if he wins again.

and in fact, if he loses, Republicans will start padding covid cases to make Biden look incompetent in handling things…

welcome to the New Media Reality

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:52:52am

re: #40 boredtechindenver

CL’d myself:

In the top picture, plant on the right, what is this plant? It showed up in my yard, but I don’t know what it is.

They are everywhere around here, and I don’t know either. I’m keeping my eyes open, no luck yet.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:58:10am

So Boris Johnson is trying to get all the schools open again in September - he wanted to do this earlier but the infection rate was high enough to stop him:

Boris Johnson: Moral duty to get all children back in school - Top stories this morning - BBC

His Education minister has even come out and says that there is little risk of children spreading SARS-Cov-2, and that research showing such will be published later (how convenient):

Little evidence of Covid transmission in schools, says Williamson - Top stories this morning - BBC

We should note that the UK now is more complete in testing than we here in the US.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:00:04am

re: #47 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So Boris Johnson is trying to get all the schools open again in September - he wanted to do this earlier but the infection rate was high enough to stop him:

When Brexit finally hits in December, that could well send their economy into a tailspin that they cannot recover from.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:05:23am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When Brexit finally hits in December, that could well send their economy into a tailspin that they cannot recover from.

I give the UK 15 years tops before there’s another EU referendum. To rejoin. And it’ll be just as contentious as the Brexit referendum was.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:06:57am

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

I give the UK 15 years tops before there’s another EU referendum. To rejoin. And it’ll be just as contentious as the Brexit referendum was.

By then Scotland will have left and it will lose…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:07:29am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

UK to plunge into deepest slump on record with worst GDP drop of G7

Britain’s economy will be officially declared in recession this week for the first time since the 2008 financial crisis, as the coronavirus outbreak plunges the country into the deepest slump on record.

Figures from the Office for National Statistics on Wednesday are expected to show that gross domestic product (GDP), the broadest measure of economic prosperity, fell in the three months to June by 21%.

[…]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:09:36am

re: #51 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

and not just Brexit per se that will will serve as a coup de grace to their sputtering economy, but the total lack of planning or consideration of options that will accompany them just dropping out without a though-out plan.

But for that, my kids (their mom was born in UK) get shiny new blue passports (made in France)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:10:02am

India faces lost generation as coronavirus pushes children to work

Just a reminder that “pandemic” does mean global. And the global consequences of avoiding people dying from the virus is large.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:11:25am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

By then Scotland will have left and it will lose…

If Scotland leaves (and joins the EU) I’d think that might actually push England and Wales to rejoin. Their economy would end up hopelessly isolated.

Granted, I guess one can’t underestimate EU-phobia and more general xenophobia, especially among the “little England” types. And being isolated is a feature, not a bug, for them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:11:57am

re: #53 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

India faces lost generation as coronavirus pushes children to work

Just a reminder that “pandemic” does mean global. And the global consequences of avoiding people dying from the virus is large.

If we get a reasonable government in place (including gains in House and Senate) then we can at least salvage some useful things from Corona: revamping how we work and educate our children, how we distribute resources, how we protect against future pandemic threats, etc…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:20:59am

re: #3 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Here’s my latest entry in the things-that-grow-from-tiny-cracks-in-the-sidewalk sweepstakes.

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It would appear to be a variant of houndstongue, which comprises several species.

Houndstongue is an invasive species native to Europe and Asia, and grows in temperate climates from Canada to Mexico.

Google Image search of various plants:
google.com

Houndstongue (USDA, with video on the description of this poisonous plant)

Weed Watcher Guide to Invasive Plants (King County, Wash. PDF, photographs of different species including one which looks remarkably like yours, page 22.

Houndstongue (Cynoglossum officinale)

Houndstongue is a biennial or short-lived perennial that can grow to 4 feet tall.
Leaves are covered with rough hairs.
The lower leaves are 4-12 inches long and ¾-inch wide.
Upper leaves are smaller but lack stems.
Flowers are dull, reddish-purple at the end of upper stems, blooming from May until frost.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:31:02am

Back later. Off to do some stuff.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:31:43am

Four new cases over the weekend in the Panhandle, raising the number to 451. Forty cases are active.

Threat level is still moderate in almost every town. There are still only two towns with no cases (mine and the Village of Gurley, about thirty miles south).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:37:25am
During Friday’s call, Panhandle Public Health officials explained that the density of a classroom is smaller than other scenarios, such as a home, an office, and even a prison cell. Using an interactive chart, officials showed different levels of density, or how close to one another people can be in settings, according to illustrations shared by the Global Center for Health Security from the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

Often times, as people discuss coronavirus and the spread, nursing homes are often cited as high-risk settings. However, PPHD Director Kim Engel said, classrooms are deemed the highest risk because of density.

At home, she explained, we enjoy an average of 600 square feet of space per person. Nursing homes and long-term facilities have an average of 300 feet per person. Office settings come in at 150 feet per person. According to the illustration, prison cells offer more density than a classroom. A prison cell was indicated to have a density of 60 feet per person, and classrooms came in lower, with 50 feet per person in a high school classroom and a typical elementary classroom has 35 feet per person.

starherald.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:48:31am

The two school districts in my county are trying out their medical experiments on children in the name of conservative religion.

Two towns, separated by just 13 miles but in the same county, will try two different approaches to reopening schools in the fall and preventing the spread of COVID-19.

Bridgeport Public Schools and Bayard Public Schools released plans to reopen their buildings in the fall with Bridgeport leaning into social distancing — but not requiring masks — and Bayard shifting to a hybrid-model and enforcing a mask requirement in some scenarios.

There has been 59 cases of COVID-19 in Morrill County, where both districts are located. Of that 59, Panhandle Public Health Department said 58 had recovered.

starherald.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:54:42am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The two school districts in my county are trying out their medical experiments on children in the name of conservative religion.

starherald.com

masks are just too much to ask. better to die free than live in submission

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Nojay UK  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:12:37am

re: #47 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Scotland is, independently, planning to open all schools starting next week with 100% attendance. Education is a devolved power in Scotland but the education system has always been separately administered.

Right now Scotland is reporting between 40 and 100 new cases of COVID-19 a day with limited clustered outbreaks with a test confirmation rate of about 1%. Aberdeen city has been put back into lockdown after a pub crawl a couple of weeks ago went bad and, as of Sunday, 131 cases in that outbreak had been traced and isolated. The scientific advice is that at this level of infection spread schools should be safe to re-open nationwide. The Scottish government had said though that if numbers tick up they’ll close down the hospitality sector (restaurants, pubs, clubs etc.) to keep the schools open. Worst case they’ll close the schools as well. We’ll see how that works out.

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stpaulbear  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:18:30am

We were having a crazy lightning storm when I went to bed about 11:30 last night. We were still having it when I got up to use the bathroom at 3:30, and I got up at about 4:00 when the hail started coming down. Luckily it stopped getting worse at less than dime size and ended in a few minutes. SW of me at Chanhassen wasn’t so lucky.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:20:39am

re: #63 stpaulbear

We were having a crazy lightning storm when I went to bed about 11:30 last night. We were still having it when I got up to use the bathroom at 3:30, and I got up at about 4:00 when the hail started coming down. Luckily it stopped getting worse at less than dime size and ended in a few minutes. SW of me at Chanhassen wasn’t so lucky.

All we got last night was 110% humidity which resulted in some liquid congealing from the sky and falling in drops as if from a sweaty armpit, doing nothing to lower the temperature at all…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:21:54am

There is a historical look-back piece in today’s regional newspaper, on how Nebraska came to have a unicameral legislature (the only state with one, though the US Virgin Islands and Guam also have them).

It arose out of the Progressive Era, where desire for government reform in the state took hold. A constitutional convention was held in 1918, with an overwhelming majority of the state voting to approve that approach. When the convention met in 1919, the amendment was defeated in a tie vote.

After that, US Senator (R-NE until his last term when the Depression started, then elected as an independent) made the Unicameral his cause during the Great Depression, arguing that it would save money, it was the will of the people, and it would be more transparent. (The article notes he wore out two sets of tires on his car driving around the state stumping for the idea).

Every newspaper in the state but five opposed the idea (then like now run by conservative-leaning publishers).

[George W.] Norris would often express his frustrations with a snappy phrase when talking with constituents about the bipartisan state legislature. “They say we have a system of checks and balances,” he would say. “Well, we do. The politicians cash the checks and the lobbyists keep the balances.”

From the Star-Herald publisher at the time:

“If the suggestion for the change had come from some other source of reform, little attention would be paid to it. When Senator Norris puts his prestige behind the amendment, many of his followers feel the urge to follow his leadership, whether they can think of any definite reasons for doing so or not.”

Just prior to the election, a Star-Herald editorial from Oct. 11, 1934, urged the voters to listen to Norris discuss his proposed plan prior to deciding whether to vote yes or no.

But the Star-Herald had made its decision in the Nov. 6 issue: “The one-house legislature contains more of danger to representative government than does our present system. Let’s stay by the ship and vote no!”

A.B. Wood was even clearer in his Sept. 7, 1934, edition of the Gering Courier.

“If you want to aggravate the present stranglehold the big centers have on our law making body, you should vote for it. But if you prefer that the local communities of the state have fair representation you will, as we do, oppose it.”

(The argument that rural areas are not fairly represented is not a new idea in conservatism.)

On the same 1934 ballot with a unicameral legislature was repeal of Prohibition and horse race betting legalisation. That has many historians (who ignore the 1918 vote) believing getting rid of Prohibition was what really drove voter turnout.

When the 1934 election was completed, a later analysis revealed that Nebraska voters had approved a one-house legislature with more than 90% support from the state’s precincts and counties. The final vote count was 286,086 for the amendment and 193,152 against, a 60% to 40% margin.

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Nebraska’s Legislature Remains One of a Kind (Scottsbluff Star-Herald)

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stpaulbear  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:24:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:28:31am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There is a historical look-back piece in today’s regional newspaper, on how Nebraska came to have a unicameral legislature (the only state with one, though the US Virgin Islands and Guam also have them).

(Scottsbluff Star-Herald)

I can understand a unicameral legislature for states with small populations but not for anything larger.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:34:11am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can understand a unicameral legislature for states with small populations but not for anything larger.

The principal argument about transparency was that frequently the state house and senate would pass different bills, which then had to go through a conference committee, where the real crap gets put into bills.

A unicameral legislature eliminates the need for conference committees. It also eliminates the need for duplicate committees in general in each house.

I’m not sure why it wouldn’t work in larger population states. Over the decades government officials from most states have come to study how our legislature works, but those legislatures have been opposed to the idea.

I’m not sure any other state has ever put the idea up for a vote by the populace.

Almost no one is alive today in this state from when it had two houses, and pretty much no one here can imagine anything different.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:35:10am

There are more License Plate Reader cameras than I thought. They catch lots of stolen cars with them.

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stpaulbear  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:37:30am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All we got last night was 110% humidity which resulted in some liquid congealing from the sky and falling in drops as if from a sweaty armpit, doing nothing to lower the temperature at all…

We’re lucking out. After a string of hot muggy days, the high today isn’t supposed to reach 80 f and the humidity is dropping way down.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:43:23am

Sen. Norris, though a Republican, was a strong supporter of President Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal. He is the reason we have socialised electricity in Nebraska (there are no privately-owned power companies in this state).

I’m learning quite a bit about this fellow reading tonight. Via Wikipedia:

Norris was also the prime Senate supporter of the Rural Electrification Act, which brought electrical service to underserved and unserved rural areas across the United States. Given Norris’ belief in “public power,” no privately owned electric utilities have operated in Nebraska since the late 1940s.

George W. Norris

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 2:44:58am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sen. Norris, though a Republican, was a strong supporter of President Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal. He is the reason we have socialised electricity in Nebraska (there are no privately-owned power companies in this state).

I’m learning quite a bit about this fellow reading tonight. Via Wikipedia:

George W. Norris

Because basic resources should not be left entirely in the hands of market players.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 3:03:06am

re: #70 stpaulbear

We’re lucking out. After a string of hot muggy days, the high today isn’t supposed to reach 80 f and the humidity is dropping way down.

We are too, until Wednesday, where it will be hot. We’re leaving on our trip to Smith Falls State Park, Snake Falls (owned by a not-for-profit). and Fort Falls (in the Fort Niobrara National Wildlife Refuge) that day (after the scheduled severe thunderstorms).

forecast.weather.gov

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 10, 2020 • 3:34:45am

.

Adam : Les regrets (M. de Villoutreys et C. Izambert)

..

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 3:41:16am

re: #14 🌹UOJB!

Damn. Didn’t know about this!

Sacha Baron Cohen Alerted FBI After Seemingly Uncovering A Pedophile Ring During Filming Of ‘Who Is America?’

etcanada.com

And… “in the end the FBI decided not to pursue it”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 3:42:29am

re: #75 John Hughes

And… “in the end the FBI decided not to pursue it”.

too busy pursuing pedophile rings in the nonexistent basements of DC pizza parlors…

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:01:42am

So here’s a first look at Ostrava’s new double-decker buses. They’re at the Scania facility in Ostrava Paskov for some technical modifications. They’ve been kitted out in DPO livery already, so we should be seeing them on the roads in about 60 days or so.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:05:42am

Cool buses. Is there an extra driver on the top?

Germany does double-decker trains, something that they adopted from East Germany after reunification.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:06:32am

Omaha World-Herald relationships advice column:

First up: An Omaha woman writing about her female friend. The other woman apparently gripes about her hub, and the first woman secretly wonders if that hub is a member of the SecretLiberalGeyhHomoBiAgenda. She asks if she should butt in to someone else’s sex life (as any good Christian woman might).

Ask Amy: My friend grumbles about her husband. Should I say what I’m thinking about his sexuality?

No, lady, you shouldn’t. Amy agrees with me so that’s two votes for “butt out.”

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:08:59am

re: #16 🌹UOJB!

Just like Western Pennsylvania where Football is the REAL Religion!

This is absolutely true for the most part. But here in my little area of NW PA, wrestling is a very close 2nd.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:09:00am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Does he regularly go on fishing trips with his buddy and always come back empty-handed?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:10:08am

re: #80 Eventual Carrion

This is absolutely true for the most part. But here in my little area of NW PA, wrestling is a very close 2nd.

In Indiana, it is college basketball.

My oldest brother (6’ 5”) was set to become a Varsity God until he messed up his knee to bad to play anymore.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:18:35am

Wingnut loose in the Omaha World-Herald “Public Pulse” column (letters).

You may cast your one vote for Don Bacon (R-NE2), but it’s only one vote. By voting for Kara Eastman (D) you are voting for and empowering Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Gerald Nadler and a host of other America-hating socialists. So elect Kara and put a stop to the First and Second Amendments and other capitalistic nonsense like freedom to select your own medical care. So join antifa and the rioters/looters in helping Joe Biden raise your taxes, eliminate police departments nationwide and enrich the rest of his family like he did with son Hunter.

Geez, could you fit any more red scare crap in that? And Hunter Biden is still not running for office.

omaha.com

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:21:39am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wingnut loose in the Omaha World-Herald “Public Pulse” column (letters).

Geez, could you fit any more red scare crap in that? And Hunter Biden is still not running for office.

omaha.com

Hunter Biden continues to live rent-free in their heads.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:26:02am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Cool buses. Is there an extra driver on the top?

Germany does double-decker trains, something that they adopted from East Germany after reunification.

Nope, just the one driver, like the buses in London.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:28:13am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

Nope, just the one driver, like the buses in London.

don’t trust ‘em…

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:32:05am

re: #47 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

We should note that the UK now is more complete in testing than we here in the US.

Yes, but the track and trace system which was supposed to contact all contacts of people who test positive has apparently completely failed.

(Rather than being run by the NHS or any other government branch the job was given to private companies).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:33:41am

re: #87 John Hughes

Yes, but the track and trace system which was supposed to contact all contacts of people who test positive has apparently completely failed.

(Rather than being run by the NHS or any other government branch the job was given to private companies).

…who were all private school chums of some guy in government

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:34:02am

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

I give the UK 15 years tops before there’s another EU referendum. To rejoin. And it’ll be just as contentious as the Brexit referendum was.

Maybe. But Britain doesn’t get to make that decision unilaterally, the existing EU states have to decide whether they want Britain back. And some of them will have to hold referendums to see whether to accept the UK back into the fold.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:38:23am

re: #89 John Hughes

Maybe. But Britain doesn’t get to make that decision unilaterally, the existing EU states have to decide whether they want Britain back. And some of them will have to hold referendums to see whether to accept the UK back into the fold.

I am certain that most EU countries would be happy to have them back, as long as Britain is willing to be reasonable and accept the rules that the EU lives by, namely that free flow of goods and capital cannot be decoupled from free flow of people.

So yeah, once Scotland goes independent, there is little chance that what is left of boneheaded, arrogant England will come to accept those terms.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:44:07am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am certain that most EU countries would be happy to have them back, as long as Britain is willing to be reasonable and accept the rules that the EU lives by, namely that free flow of goods and capital cannot be decoupled from free flow of people.

Except by the time that happens, England will be a third world country who’s taking more than giving. I wouldn’t expect a universal OK from any country.

It took England a thousand plus years to invade and conquer its way to an empire. They’ll never be an empire again.

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:49:42am

re: #91 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Except by the time that happens, England will be a third world country who’s taking more than giving. I wouldn’t expect a universal OK from any country.

It took England a thousand plus years to invade and conquer its way to an empire. They’ll never be an empire again.

And that truly is the heart of the matter: The national pride of the UK is fighting against the reality that it no longer the world power it once was. The younger generations that grew up in the wake of the empire understands that and accepts that the UK is one nation among many. But those generations who grew up in the wake of WWII were raised on a steady diet of “Rule Britannia” and “We won two wars!,” so to live in a nation whose best days seem behind it is unpalatable.

While we all hate to acknowledge it, this is a cultural issue that likely will not resolve itself until elder generations have died off.

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:51:11am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Cool buses. Is there an extra driver on the top?

As a school kid in London the top front seats in a double decker were prized — you could pretend to be driving.

We don’t have double decker buses here in the Paris region, but children can get to sit in the front seats on the driverless metro lines. In some of them they’ve even put fake controls for kids to play with.

(We also have double decker trains, both on the commuter lines and the high speed TGV lines).

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:54:20am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…who were all private school chums of some guy in government

I thought that was so obvious I didn’t mention it. My bad.

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:54:51am

And before I get set upon, the whole generational thing? It’s as much an issue in America as Britain. The problem with becoming a global society is that too many people still live in the mindset that nations are “islands unto themselves” and that way of thinking seems way too resilient to simply fade away. Unfortunately, a lot of historical revisionism and high-octane nationalism in the latter years of the 20th century created generations of morons who today want to believe that they can somehow bring back a “golden age.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:57:20am

re: #84 Targetpractice

Hunter Biden continues to live rent-free in their heads.

I just responded. It hasn’t been long since my last letter, so they might not print it. Nevertheless, my submission.

Responding to Mr. Monte Cox’s letter in the Public Pulse on Aug. 8 (What One Vote Can Do), I see red-baiting is alive and well in our country.

Perhaps Mr. Cox would like to read about the history of Rev. Frances Bellamy, a Christian Socialist preacher in the XIX Century who hated America so much, he wrote the Pledge of Allegiance.

Regarding Mr. Daniel McMullin’s letter in the same issue about the Veterans of Foreign Wars, he’s inspired me to sit down and write a similar letter, as a disabled veteran and life member of the VFW since 1991. As an actual socialist and disabled veteran myself, I am appalled at the way ignoring paying bounties to murder our soldiers is studiously ignored, both by the VFW and the Republican Party. I can almost understand the VFW position as a Congressionally-chartered organization; they have to be careful with political speech. The Republican Party on the other hand is simply craven. I eagerly await our Nebraska congressional delegation to speak up but I expect nothing, as it would be inconvenient for their political careers to cross President Trump.

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:57:22am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am certain that most EU countries would be happy to have them back

Well, it doesn’t require “most”, it requires “all”. And, even if the “countries” might want the UK back it’s not sure the populations will.

I will have my French citizenship by then and I’m not quite sure which way I’d vote in the UK accession referendum.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 5:58:14am

re: #95 Targetpractice

And before I get set upon, the whole generational thing? It’s as much an issue in America as Britain. The problem with becoming a global society is that too many people still live in the mindset that nations are “islands unto themselves” and that way of thinking seems way too resilient to simply fade away. Unfortunately, a lot of historical revisionism and high-octane nationalism in the latter years of the 20th century created generations of morons who today want to believe that they can somehow bring back a “golden age.”

The thing to remember is that much of this - globally - is Russian ratfucking via Murdoch owned entities and Facebook.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:01:58am

re: #97 John Hughes

Well, it doesn’t require “most”, it requires “all”. And, even if the “countries” might want the UK back it’s not sure the populations will.

I will have my French citizenship by then and I’m not quite sure which way I’d vote in the UK accession referendum.

It is a moot point: England is going to really go to hell in a handbasket when Scotland - and perhaps even Wales and Northern Ireland abandon the sinking ship.

And with those populations gone, what you have is an arrogant, self-serving inbred ruling class, a hapless, dwindling middle class and an arrogant, undereducated working class

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:04:11am

re: #98 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The thing to remember is that much of this - globally - is Russian ratfucking via Murdoch owned entities and Facebook.

Let’s not kid ourselves, the Russians couldn’t create feelings that didn’t already exist. MAGA is not new, it’s just the latest flowering of a disease that’s been infecting this nation for decades. Before MAGA, it was “Morning in America.” This isn’t the first time we hired an actor who was an “outsider” because we thought as a nation that such would lead to America regaining some lost “greatness.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:05:18am

re: #100 Targetpractice

Let’s not kid ourselves, the Russians couldn’t create feelings that didn’t already exist. MAGA is not new, it’s just the latest flowering of a disease that’s been infecting this nation for decades. Before MAGA, it was “Morning in America.” This isn’t the first time we hired an actor who was an “outsider” because we thought as a nation that such would lead to America regaining some lost “greatness.”

Not create it, no. But use psyops to bring it to the fore.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:05:31am

re: #95 Targetpractice

And before I get set upon, the whole generational thing? It’s as much an issue in America as Britain. The problem with becoming a global society is that too many people still live in the mindset that nations are “islands unto themselves” and that way of thinking seems way too resilient to simply fade away.

It is easy to sell it as their vaunted Culture and Heritage under threat by godless, rootless cosmopolitans

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:07:19am

re: #101 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

More create it, no. But use psyops to bring it to the fore.

All they really did was add fuel to a fire that was already there.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:11:11am

re: #103 Targetpractice

All they really did was add fuel to a fire that was already there.

The famed Soviet whataboutism was built on our Jim Crow society, as a means to deflect criticisms of the state of Soviet civil rights.

In the end it doesn’t seem surprising to me the Republicans would adopt that strategy, since they are also opposed to civil rights.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:15:34am

re: #103 Targetpractice

All they really did was add fuel to a fire that was already there.

Like the way that Russian Bots helped turn Operation Jade Helm conspiracy theories into total paranoid Jade Helm Mania resulting in the governor of Texas forming a task force to “observe”

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:16:00am
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Jay C  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:16:17am

re: #99 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is a moot point: England is going to really go to hell in a handbasket when Scotland - and perhaps even Wales and Northern Ireland abandon the sinking ship.

And with those populations gone, what you have is an arrogant, inbred ruling class, and arrogant, undereducated working class and a dwindling middle class.

And all of them living in a contracting economy, where economic resources and opportunities are going to be - slowly, but surely - redirected away from social and public expenditures and (likely in the name of “competitiveness”) re-allocated to the biggest businesses/wealthiest sectors (“free-market solutions”!) in order to prop up whatever the UK can salvage of its “First World” standard of society.

Oh, and likely with the whole mess still being administered by an unpopular, uncaring and disconnected Tory government who have gamed the system to stay in power, and who are probably going to exploit every ounce of xenophobia and/or blame-shifting to cement their control.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:18:41am
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LadyBehir  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:19:25am

re: #3 jaunte

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Way off brand. Implies Trumpsters read.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:20:24am

re: #92 Targetpractice

…

While we all hate to acknowledge it, this is a cultural issue that likely will not resolve itself until elder generations have died off.

Patience—our leaders are working on it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:25:30am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like the way that Russian Bots helped turn Operation Jade Helm conspiracy theories into total paranoid Jade Helm Mania resulting in the governor of Texas forming a task force to “observe”

Don’t forget a wingnut shooting at soldiers at Camp Shelby in Hattiesburg, Mississippi.

There was also an apocalyptic conspiracy theory that Jade Helm 15 was a dress rehearsal to impose martial law after a comet or asteroid impact, misconstrued from a statement French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius made about climate change.

NASA had to put out a statement that there was no known celestial object which endangered Earth during that time, which then lead to conspiracy theories that NASA already knew of such an object and was hiding the data, or had miscalculated the data on some other object.

All that fits into the idea you can never debunk a conspiracy theory because it simply mutates; all you can do is perform a similar function to counter-apologetics, where you hope to provide enough information to prevent others from becoming lost.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:29:05am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Beirut blast is already a distant memory despite displacing 300,000 people, killing more than 150, and injuring thousands all while decimating Lebanon’s main port in its capital city.

Three ministers have resigned, and it’s possible that this will take down the government. That’s not good news for a country that has slowly been able to restore a semblance of tranquility after decades of upheaval. The Lebanese people deserve so much better.

So do we. The US is a total shitshow with Trumpists projecting like IMAX as Trump the saboteur continues shredding the constitution with Bill Barr’s knowing approval. They’ll ignore the Congressional appropriations power and insist Trump can unilaterally do what he wants with money previously appropriated.

It. Is. Unconstitutional.

It’s an impeachable offense, and Democrats still need to treat Trump as such. Everything Trump is doing is sabotaging functioning government and lying about every aspect of his actions.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:29:24am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:31:52am

Waking up pissed. Again. Officer-involved shooting in Chicago last night. Suspect with a gun shooting at the cops while running away. Apparently no body cam footage. How many times have we heard that only for it to appear out of thin air later.

Antagonists on both sides, and it’s blown up. More widespread looting. And another officer-involved shooting during the looting. Impossible to not feel sad for my city. Pissed off. Frustrated.

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A Cranky One  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:32:16am

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:34:18am

re: #106 Belafon

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So all things that help Americans are terrible, got it.

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jeffreyw  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:35:48am

Good morning!

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:45:35am

re: #106 Belafon

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1.3T for infrastructure? Now, my memory ain’t what it used to be, but didn’t we hear all sorts of shit around ‘16-‘17 about how Trump was gonna spend $1T on infrastructure and create millions of well-paying jobs, which is why we needed to elect him?

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:45:37am
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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:49:47am

In my neck of the woods:

A home belonging to celebrity cook Rachael Ray was reportedly on fire in upstate New York on Sunday night.

Fire crews were battling flames at the home in Lake Luzerne, as the Warren County Sheriff’s Office told ABC10 the residence belonged to the television personality.

Images showed the flames shooting through the roof of the home.

A spokesperson for Ray said she was not injured in the blaze.

A buddy of mine is trying to find lake front in that area. You can get a 600 square foot two season camp on Lake George for over a million, and they are getting snatched up. Gold might go to $4,000 an ounce soon as well. I welcome our new overlord: inflation.

nypost.com

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:51:04am

re: #120 Shropshire Slasher

Did she forget something on the stove?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:52:51am

re: #113 lawhawk

I still think wingnuts ought to offer him a friendly location on Stone Mountain. The men depicted there are his political ancestors.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:54:28am

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I still think wingnuts ought to offer him a friendly location on Stone Mountain. The men depicted there are his political ancestors.

Not sure he deserves a spot with the Second Place Finishers.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:57:41am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:58:05am

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Did she forget something on the stove?

Long-time belief is that she never knew how to cook before she was chosen to do so on tv.

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ericblair  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:58:28am

re: #97 John Hughes

Well, it doesn’t require “most”, it requires “all”. And, even if the “countries” might want the UK back it’s not sure the populations will.

I will have my French citizenship by then and I’m not quite sure which way I’d vote in the UK accession referendum.

There would have to be a very serious and reasonably permanent shift in politics. The UK has been the whiny problem child of the EU since forever. This would also change the new balance of power between (more or less) north and south considerably. Plus, there’s really no way that the UK would get to keep the pound or stay out of Schengen in EU version 2.

Living on the continent and knowing a number of Brits, the whole thing is so fucking sad. At least many Brits snagged their Irish or French or German or whatever passports so they could stay where they are, but there are so many young people whose lives have been turned upside down by angry ignorant xenophobes led by corrupt narcissists.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:59:12am

re: #124 lawhawk

Kanye could win if they have to do it in rap, a la Hamilton.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:02:29am

re: #120 Shropshire Slasher

Gold is not much higher than it was in the beginning of July 2011 when it peaked after a sharp rise to about $1,900, dropped, then rose to $1,800 in a dead-cat bounce in January 2012, then dropped back to about $1,200 (where it was before the sudden rise in July), and has been hunting around there until recently.

In the last few days it’s off from it’s peak of $2,060 on Aug 7, currently as of the latest update $2,035. (courtesy of my Kitco app on my computer)

My safe deposit box is wealthier.

I wonder how much of this is inflation, and how much of it is speculation driven by Covid-19 fears?

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Nojay UK  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:03:59am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

Interesting — it looks like the top deck roof can be removed so they can be used as an open-top sightseeing bus. Note the guard rails running along the side just at the windowline.

We’ve got open-top double-decker buses like that doing tourist trips around Edinburgh although they’re permanently open, not convertible like those ones seem to be. We’ve also just got some “century” double-decker buses for regular bus service, capable of carrying a hundred people sitting and standing. They have double axles at the back and reportedly they can’t be used on certain city routes because they can’t manage some small roundabouts and sharp corners without hitting things.

I wonder how long it will be until some bus driver in Czech forgets the upper deck is there and tries to drive one of those double-deckers under a low bridge? It happens occasionally here in the UK, usually during traffic diversions when a regular bus route is changed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:04:57am

re: #124 lawhawk

They left out Potent Potables. That has to be on any Jeopardy! board.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:05:06am

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“It’s quite easy to see gold going to $4,000,” Frank Holmes, CEO at investment firm U.S. Global Investors, told CNBC on Monday.

He pointed to the trillions of dollars needed in stimulus to tide the U.S. economy during the coronavirus pandemic, and added that G-20 finance ministers and central banks are “working together like a cartel and they’re all printing trillions of dollars.”

“We’ve not seen this level where central banks are printing money at a zero interest rate. At zero interest rates, gold becomes a very, very attractive asset class,” Holmes said.

cnbc.com

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:05:19am

re: #112 lawhawk

Three ministers have resigned, and it’s possible that this will take down the government. That’s not good news for a country that has slowly been able to restore a semblance of tranquility seen it’s whole economy destroyed by a corrupt ruling class after decades of upheaval. The Lebanese people deserve so much better.

“Stability” is not what the Lebanese people need at the moment. “Stability” means corruption and stagnation.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:07:22am

Thread

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Jay C  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:07:29am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They left out Potent Potables. That has to be on any Jeopardy! board.

In this scenario, that would be mainly (probably necessary) for the audience…..

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Nojay UK  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:11:29am

re: #126 ericblair

The UK’s retention of the pound sterling was not a particular sticking point within the EU — there’s an economic convergence requirement for any existing or wannabee EU nation to join the Eurozone (for a lot of smaller new members this was often fudged or airbrushed, see Greece recently for a bad example) but it’s not a requirement of joining or even rejoining, assuming the UK or what’s left of it asks to do so in the future. Schengen, that’s another decision that’s reserved to the individual state but again for new members it’s a bonus of EU membership they usually accept.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:11:32am

re: #127 Decatur Deb

Kanye could win if they have to do it in rap, a la Hamilton.

I’m sure the ghost of Corn Pop would help Biden.

Just to be clear, I believe that story, not only because other people have verified it, but there are some people that just have interesting things happen to them. Richard Feynman comes to mind.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:11:33am

re: #131 Shropshire Slasher

So CNBC, the network that told poor people the other day to stop drinking expensive coffee, by a guy who inherited tens of millions of dollars, now has a shill for a company which sells gold and other precious metals as investments. Checks out.

usfunds.com (Goes to US Global Investors “About Us” page)

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:12:14am

Despite the weekend newsdrop on the Kodak con, the Dow is up over 200. Someone plz make sense of all this.

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:13:16am

re: #126 ericblair

At least many Brits snagged their Irish or French or German or whatever passports so they could stay

Actually you don’t need another passport so you can stay, all EU countries have pledged to let UK citizens keep their existing residence status.

But you do need an EU passport to work in other EU countries.

I’m a French resident, and nothing will take that away from me. But up until 31/12/2020 I can move to or work in any EU country with no restrictions. After that I will still be able to move around for personal reasons, but I lose the right to permanently move to another EU country or work in another EU country.

This is a huge pain in the arse, and could lead to some people having major problems — people who live near borders who live in one country but work in another, people who get sent around the EU for business trips or temporary work assignments…

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:13:22am

re: #138 Decatur Deb

Kodak isn’t in the Dow 30.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:13:50am

re: #136 Belafon

Had to Google that one.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:14:20am

re: #138 Decatur Deb

Despite the weekend newsdrop on the Kodak con, the Dow is up over 200.someone plz make sense of all this.

Kodak isn’t a Dow stock.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:15:04am

re: #140 lawhawk

Kodak isn’t in the Dow 30.

I’m expecting collateral damage from the loss of faith. Even Cramer is making gagging noises.

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BigPapa  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:15:43am

re: #133 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’ve been watching the ‘Save Our Children’ BS fire up here at home for a few weeks. I knew it was hincky from the start. It’s right wing Q fuckery by another name.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:21:21am

re: #138 Decatur Deb

Despite the weekend newsdrop on the Kodak con, the Dow is up over 200.someone plz make sense of all this.

Essentially someone got rich on a pump-and-dump (or something that turned out to be the same).

Currently:

finance.yahoo.com

$10.82 (off about 27.25%)

The giant loan to Kodak really only affected Kodak, not the broader market. As soon as BS was called and the loan cancelled, Kodak stock collapsed back to where it was.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:22:47am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

I’m expecting collateral damage from the loss of faith. Even Cramer is making gagging noises.

The stock markets are artificially inflated thanks to the Fed pumping money into the system endlessly. Main Street is failing, but the millionaire class remains insulated from the decimation happening elsewhere.

It’s all self-inflicted too - a competent admin could have avoided all the downside risk with a competent covid19 response imposed practically everywhere else. We could have contained this, but didn’t. The economy collapsed because of Trump. It wont recover because of Trump; it’ll recover despite his efforts.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:25:04am

re: #144 BigPapa

I’ve been watching the ‘Save Our Children’ BS fire up here at home for a few weeks. I knew it was hincky from the start. It’s right wing Q fuckery by another name.

As soon as I saw “Frazzledrip” from the Q crowd, I knew they were going to go all in on it.

The leading Q people are actively taunting the moronic rank and file and the R&F are all in on everything stupid. Frazzledrip. Seriously.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:25:04am

I. AM. DED. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:25:50am

Antonio Banderas (60) has the ‘rona.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:29:51am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:30:39am
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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:31:05am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:32:56am

re: #148 The Pie Overlord!

I. AM. DED. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

😂🤣😅😆 LOL

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:33:29am

re: #152 lawhawk

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His signature looks more like Mein Kampf than Donald Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:37:16am

re: #154 Barefoot Grin

His signature looks more like Mein Kampf than Donald Trump.

His signature looks like my EEG when I’m having a seizure, or maybe a siesmometer during an earthquake.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:38:50am

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

His signature looks like my EEG when I’m having a seizure, or maybe a siesmometer during an earthquake.

Or the CV19 death rate in a small population.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:39:15am

Sorry Ms. Shelton, Ben Sasse can’t do that. He would be excommunicated from his religion.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:40:21am
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Rightwingconspirator  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:40:58am

re: #128 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Gold is not much higher than it was in the beginning of July 2011 when it peaked after a sharp rise to about $1,900, dropped, then rose to $1,800 in a dead-cat bounce in January 2012, then dropped back to about $1,200 (where it was before the sudden rise in July), and has been hunting around there until recently.

In the last few days it’s off from it’s peak of $2,060 on Aug 7, currently as of the latest update $2,035. (courtesy of my Kitco app on my computer)

My safe deposit box is wealthier.

I wonder how much of this is inflation, and how much of it is speculation driven by Covid-19 fears?

Let’s not forget the Carter admin days of record gold. $850. 235% fair? About $1997. Of course one can argue the rate. In any case, we broke the record. We were and are now sooo screwed on the economy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:44:11am

LOL

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:50:20am

re: #129 Nojay UK

Interesting — it looks like the top deck roof can be removed so they can be used as an open-top sightseeing bus. Note the guard rails running along the side just at the windowline.

We’ve got open-top double-decker buses like that doing tourist trips around Edinburgh although they’re permanently open, not convertible like those ones seem to be. We’ve also just got some “century” double-decker buses for regular bus service, capable of carrying a hundred people sitting and standing. They have double axles at the back and reportedly they can’t be used on certain city routes because they can’t manage some small roundabouts and sharp corners without hitting things.

I wonder how long it will be until some bus driver in Czech forgets the upper deck is there and tries to drive one of those double-deckers under a low bridge? It happens occasionally here in the UK, usually during traffic diversions when a regular bus route is changed.

I think the top can be removed. We don’t really have to worry about low bridges here. And there’s no low overpasses they could hit, at least not on the routes they’re scheduled to run on.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:51:00am

Thread, five tweets. Video, eight seconds. Sen. Megan Hunt’s bill to permit student athletes to seek compensation is up for debate tomorrow in the Unicameral.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:52:35am

re: #151 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

[Embedded content]

I’m sure that is not Garbage Hobbit singing. He would sound more like Alvin from The Chipmunks, than Javert from Les Miserables.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:54:28am

LOL

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:57:09am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Omaha World-Herald relationships advice column:

First up: An Omaha woman writing about her female friend. The other woman apparently gripes about her hub, and the first woman secretly wonders if that hub is a member of the SecretLiberalGeyhHomoBiAgenda. She asks if she should butt in to someone else’s sex life (as any good Christian woman might).

Ask Amy: My friend grumbles about her husband. Should I say what I’m thinking about his sexuality?

No, lady, you shouldn’t. Amy agrees with me so that’s two votes for “butt out.”

Where did she say anything about being a Christian?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:57:37am

The majority of the voters are behind Sen. Hunt’s compensation bill for athletes in high school and university.

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BigPapa  Aug 10, 2020 • 7:57:58am

I’ve been thinking about doing a Page on this Save Our Children bullshit. I’ve been tracking it since mid-June. Facebook groups have popped up, sign waving at the side of the road, and some other more sinister fuckery. My wife was asking me if I’ve heard of child abductions increasing and I blew it off but my brother in law started posting Q memes so I started paying attention. I suspect this is happening in other locales, not just mine.

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A Cranky One  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:00:00am

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:00:55am

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[Embedded content]

Sorry Ms. Shelton, Ben Sasse can’t do that. He would be excommunicated from his religion.

You forget that in the era of Trump, just expressing something other than fawning devotion can get you excommunicated. Case in point:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:01:02am
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Varek Raith  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:01:55am

re: #168 A Cranky One

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Words of wisdom.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:01:55am

re: #165 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Where did she say anything about being a Christian?

To be fair to her, she didn’t.

On the other hand, religious people other than Christians are not visible here, mostly in the closet due to fear of backlash (including violence).

Our two atheistic state senators (Ernie Chambers and Megan Hunt) get more death threats from loving Christians than all the other senators put together.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:02:55am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When Brexit finally hits in December, that could well send their economy into a tailspin that they cannot recover from.

The sun has finally set on the British Empire.

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:04:46am

Trump: “My EOs take care of all the relief issues for the rest of the year! I don’t need Congress!”

Also Trump: “WHY WON’T THEY MAKE A DEAL WITH ME?!”

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:04:58am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

By then Scotland will have left and it will lose…

Oh Northern Ireland may be gone as well into a united Ireland.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:06:15am

re: #84 Targetpractice

Hunter Biden continues to live rent-free in their heads.

Hunter Biden is the new Valerie Jarett, and the new Huma (last name? was a Hillary assistant, was the husband of the Dem congressman who couldn’t keep his fly shut).

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:07:30am

re: #169 Targetpractice

You forget that in the era of Trump, just expressing something other than fawning devotion can get you excommunicated. Case in point:

[Embedded content]

Going ‘rogue’ used to be a really great thing for the GOP, now apparently it’s going out of style.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:07:34am

re: #169 Targetpractice

You forget that in the era of Trump, just expressing something other than fawning devotion can get you excommunicated. Case in point:

Our Senate election is going to be a crapfest … Trumpers will attack Sasse (but in the end I imagine they’ll vote for him because of the magic R) but Democrats won’t vote for Janicek (because of the sexual abuse and assault allegations and insisting with that baggage he can still beat Sasse).

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:07:58am

re: #174 Targetpractice

Trump: “My EOs take care of all the relief issues for the rest of the year! I don’t need Congress!”

Also Trump: “WHY WON’T THEY MAKE A DEAL WITH ME?!”

[Embedded content]

I’m glad our president* is focused like a laser beam on solving the pandemic crisis.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:08:07am

re: #117 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Jay C  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:08:47am

re: #173 🌹UOJB!

The sun has finally set on the British Empire.

That happened years ago, but the Tories are going to do their best to convince the public that that sun hasn’t quite set yet…..
Of course, that glow will be from burning the economy down, but at least they’ll be “free”….

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Nojay UK  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:09:14am

re: #173 🌹UOJB!

The sun has finally set on the British Empire.

Well, apart from some bits the US military own, like Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, part of the British Indian Ocean Territories. It’s an odd place, it has a US zip code and a British postcode. The British government would have given it back to its inhabitants a long time ago but they were all displaced to make way for a US airbase back in the 1960s. The US seems loath to give it up as an unsinkable aircraft carrier located conveniently close to China and Russia so it remains part of the Empire.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:09:34am

re: #169 Targetpractice

You forget that in the era of Trump, just expressing something other than fawning devotion can get you excommunicated. Case in point:

[Embedded content]

Yeah why can’t Sasse THANK our great MAGA president for everything he’s done, which no other president could have ever done?

///

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JC1  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:10:49am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They left out Potent Potables. That has to be on any Jeopardy! board.

Sean Connery should fill in for Alex Trebeck.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:10:56am

re: #176 Sir John Barron

Hunter Biden is the new Valerie Jarett, and the new Huma (last name? was a Hillary assistant, was the husband of the Dem congressman who couldn’t keep his fly shut).

Huma Abedin, who still works for Hillary Clinton. She was previously married to the disgraced Anthony Weiner, and gets constant crap from Republicans because brown Indian-American, Muslim, accused of being everything from a secret member of the Muslim Brotherhood to being Hillary Clinton’s lesbian lover.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:11:27am

re: #184 JC1

Sean Connery should fill in for Alex Trebeck.

Sean Connery should fill in for president* Trump

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:11:36am

re: #176 Sir John Barron

They’re very strongly opposed to nepotism.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:12:48am

re: #187 jaunte

They’re very strongly opposed to nepotism.

Can you imagine the left wing outrage if Ivanka and her husband Jared worked in the WH and ran the important pandemic response, which has been terrible?

/////

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:13:24am

re: #187 jaunte

They’re very strongly opposed to nepotism.

The GOP is very principled, consistently pro 1st Amendment, less government, etc.

/////

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:15:55am

Save this tweet for the next asshole MAGAt (but I repeat myself) who wants to tell you about Pelosi and her “expensive” ice cream:

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:16:54am

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Our Senate election is going to be a crapfest … Trumpers will attack Sasse (but in the end I imagine they’ll vote for him because of the magic R) but Democrats won’t vote for Janicek (because of the sexual abuse and assault allegations and insisting with that baggage he can still beat Sasse).

“Democrats will have to vote for me.”

Yes, we want Trump out, and yes, we want control of the Senate, but we’re not exactly counting on defeating Sasse to get it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:17:19am

Video, 2:02

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:18:03am

OFFS:

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:19:26am

re: #193 Targetpractice

OFFS:

[Embedded content]

“And I want to thank president* Trump for allowing the sun to come up this morning….”

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:20:50am

re: #169 Targetpractice

You forget that in the era of Trump, just expressing something other than fawning devotion can get you excommunicated. Case in point:

[Embedded content]

I’d be interested in knowing the number of tweets from the president* either thanking himself or demanding that others thank him for some great act for which everyone should thank him.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:21:22am

re: #193 Targetpractice

OFFS:

Thread, three tweets, tweet the second:

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:24:03am

wbaltv.com

In my neck of the woods today

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:24:25am

With us discussing the merits of riding without a helmet, I missed the actual thing that went on:

Saturday morning, on a bike ride—one of those physical activities I have yet to see the world’s healthiest orange president do—Joe Biden was asked a question by Fox News’ Peter Doocy: “Mr. Vice President, have you picked a running mate yet?” Biden, in response, answered “Yeah, I have.” Doocy, believing he had a scoop, asked: “You have? Who is it?” Biden responded: “It’s you,” and continued to ride away.

The obvious truth is that it is incredibly likely Biden does have a running mate, but why give that to Fox New? Rather than accept the answer tongue-in-cheek, though, Fox News continued to report as though they had a big scoop on hand.

Doocy tries to salvage their reporting: “Okay, so he didn’t know the follow up was coming, but he did answer with a direct ‘yes.’ He has picked a running mate.”
Apparently too ashamed to admit that Joe Biden had just made them look like fools, Fox News continued with their “News Alert” until Biden’s spokesman, TJ Ducklo, had to chime in with the obvious.

dailykos.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:25:21am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:25:22am

re: #198 Belafon

With us discussing the merits of riding without a helmet, I missed the actual thing that went on:

dailykos.com

I like Biden’s style.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:26:47am
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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:27:31am

re: #138 Decatur Deb

Despite the weekend newsdrop on the Kodak con, the Dow is up over 200. Someone plz make sense of all this.

Wall Street is hell bent on grabbing every last cent they can from the marks!

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:27:42am

re: #198 Belafon

With us discussing the merits of riding without a helmet, I missed the actual thing that went on:

dailykos.com

So Joe Biden’s running mate is Steve Doocy.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:28:49am

re: #144 BigPapa

I’ve been watching the ‘Save Our Children’ BS fire up here at home for a few weeks. I knew it was hincky from the start. It’s right wing Q fuckery by another name.

Note how those assholes are so silent about the innocent kids Nazi Miller locked up.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:29:16am

Utah Outcasts has LGF’s very own Joe Bacon guest hosting the show again, weighing in on an important topic, stupid crap on social media. (15:16)

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:29:55am

re: #178 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Our Senate election is going to be a crapfest … Trumpers will attack Sasse (but in the end I imagine they’ll vote for him because of the magic R) but Democrats won’t vote for Janicek (because of the sexual abuse and assault allegations and insisting with that baggage he can still beat Sasse).

I’m glad I’m not in your shoes. Sasse may not have ever sexually harassed anyone, but his party has done and will do much more damage to women than one guy’s ugly behavior could ever manage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:33:09am

re: #174 Targetpractice

Trump: “My EOs take care of all the relief issues for the rest of the year! I don’t need Congress!”

Also Trump: “WHY WON’T THEY MAKE A DEAL WITH ME?!”

Pelosi said he’s full of crap. There was no phone call.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:33:55am

re: #206 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I’m glad I’m not in your shoes. Sasse may not have ever sexually harassed anyone, but his party has done and will do much more damage to women than one guy’s ugly behavior could ever manage.

Janicek under state law has until close-of-business on Sept 1 to withdraw so the Democratic Party can replace him. So far he’s refusing to withdraw.

We have a problem in NE-3 as well, where the Democratic nominee said “I’m no longer a Democrat” and joined the Nebraska Marijuana Party. Under Nebraska law, a person may run in any House district; the candidate lives in Omaha which is not in our district.

It would be tough enough to dislodge Republicypher Adrian Smith, but the NMP would turn off a bunch of people just because of its single issue.

As far as I know, other than the guy being a carpetbagger in our district and his BS party switch, there is no scandal surrounding him.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:36:05am

Hey Joe, I like your background of alt-Mount Rushmore in the video.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:41:55am
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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:42:47am

re: #159 Rightwingconspirator

Let’s not forget the Carter admin days of record gold. $850. 235% fair? About $1997. Of course one can argue the rate. In any case, we broke the record. We were and are now sooo screwed on the economy.

And at the same time in 1979-80 the Hunt Brothers were trying to corner the silver market driving the price of silver thru the roof until they over speculated and went bankrupt.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:42:55am

After an officer-invovled shooting in Englewood, Ill.

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plansbandc  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:43:07am

re: #180 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Nice! I saw a grouse last night.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:44:52am

re: #210 wrenchwench

We’re going to do this “Let’s go to every corner of the nation and interview why people like Trump” crap again.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:45:42am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:46:15am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re going to do this “Let’s go to every corner of the nation and interview why people like Trump” crap again.

Someone has created a name for that—a “Cletus Safari”.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:46:56am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re going to do this “Let’s go to every corner of the nation and interview why people like Trump” crap again.

With a more simple answer: White.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:47:55am

re: #210 wrenchwench

And it’s probably because they’re such large numbers, but I pretty much assumed evangelicals meant whites.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:47:57am

re: #203 Shropshire Slasher

So Joe Biden’s running mate is Steve Doocy.

No, a running sphincter is Steve Doocy.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:49:37am

re: #184 JC1

Sean Connery should fill in for Alex Trebeck.

Sean Connery is a woman beater who thinks it’s no big deal to best women “when they need it”. I’d literally forego my favorite show if he was on it.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:50:01am

re: #218 Belafon

And it’s probably because they’re such large numbers, but I pretty much assumed evangelicals meant whites.

Assumptions are coming into question everywhere.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:50:45am

re: #216 Decatur Deb

Someone has created a name for that—a “Cletus Safari”.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:52:38am

re: #221 wrenchwench

Assumptions are coming into question everywhere.

Shame, this week (15 Aug) is the Feast of the Assumption.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:53:30am

re: #218 Belafon

And it’s probably because they’re such large numbers, but I pretty much assumed evangelicals meant whites.

I suppose that depends on where you live: Black Evangelicals overwhelmingly support Democrats (they helped elect Doug Jones to the Senate).

The Root did an article on why African-Americans overwhelmingly support Joe Biden, and it came down primarily to two things: He listens to our concerns, and as a white politician he willingly played second fiddle to a Black man in full support.

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Jay C  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:53:56am

re: #219 Eventual Carrion

No, a running sphincter is Steve Doocy.

True, but the reporter who got pwned by Biden was Pete Doocy (I assume he’s related but not sure).

re: #216 Decatur Deb

Someone has created a name for that—a “Cletus Safari”.

Yeah: and no matter how big a landslide Trump loses by, it’s a sure bet that, quite soon after, the NYT will be sending a team out to some greasy-spoon diner in Waterbucket, IA to solemnly report on how much all those overalled “Real Americans” miss their “Real President”….

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:55:30am

re: #223 Decatur Deb

Shame, this week (15 Aug) is the Feast of the Assumption.

I assume that’s everyone’s favorite feast.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:56:14am

re: #224 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I suppose that depends on where you live: Black Evangelicals overwhelmingly support Democrats (they helped elect Doug Jones to the Senate).

The Root did an article on why African-Americans overwhelmingly support Joe Biden, and it came down primarily to two things: He listens to our concerns, and as a white politician he willingly played second fiddle to a Black man in full support.

They’re not using the name as I would have. Evangelical to me has just come to mean “white supremacist waving a Bible.” I’ll have to fix that.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 8:59:59am

re: #227 Belafon

They’re not using the name as I would have. Evangelical to me has just come to mean “white supremacist waving a Bible.” I’ll have to fix that.

When I was knocking on doors for Obama, the only AA who refused to support him was a small-church pastor who would not accept Obama’s tolerance of gays.

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stpaulbear  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:00:32am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

I think the top can be removed. We don’t really have to worry about low bridges here. And there’s no low overpasses they could hit, at least not on the routes they’re scheduled to run on.

No 11 foot 8’s where you live?

The Definitive 11Foot8 Bridge Crash Compilation

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:01:19am

Christy Stroop writes for Religion Dispatches

Why ‘Respectable’ Evangelicals Can’t Rein in Evangelical Conspiracy Theorists

She starts out with the positions of David French and Christianity Today attacking the problem of wingnut conspiracy theory, then goes after them for actually promoting the problem as it exists today.

It seems to be much more difficult, however, for these men to dig deeper into the theological roots of evangelical authoritarianism and abuse. Doing so would mean they would have to become aware of their own complicity in the very real physical and psychological harm done to those of us “raised up” to “take back this country for Christ” in the thick of the culture wars.

Take French’s reference to schools. Early last year, I sparked a media firestorm by launching the hashtag #ExposeChristianSchools in order to highlight the extent to which evangelical and fundamentalist schools in particular, like the ones I attended as a child, perpetuate abuse, racism, misogyny, and anti-LGBTQ animus as they indoctrinate children in “alternative facts.” It was Vice President Mike Pence’s and David French’s defense of Second Lady Karen Pence’s return to one such anti-LGBTQ Christian school to work as an art teacher that inspired me to create the hashtag, which accumulated over 200,000 tweets within a couple of days.

Clearly, many children of the culture wars, who have insight into why evangelicals are prone to believing in conspiracy theories, would like to be heard. And clearly, David French has little interest in listening.

I know this, because during the #ExposeChristianSchools hubbub, French took to the pages of National Review to denounce me (though not by name) as “an activist” pushing an “anti-Christian ideology.” In fact I advocate pluralism and regularly engage with Christians who support social justice and separation of church and state, for example through institutions like the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice and the Center for Interfaith Cooperation and Christian Theological Seminary in my native Indianapolis, as well as via podcasts and programs like Rev. Dr. Welton Gaddy’s State of Belief Radio.

(more before and after this part)

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:04:01am

re: #229 stpaulbear

No 11 foot 8’s where you live?

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All tops are removable, once.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:04:34am

re: #190 Targetpractice

Save this tweet for the next asshole MAGAt (but I repeat myself) who wants to tell you about Pelosi and her “expensive” ice cream:

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Teukka  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:05:54am

re: #229 stpaulbear

No 11 foot 8’s where you live?

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No, but we have 11’8”s through-and-through evil cousin, 10’2” (3 m), in my city.

Buss explosion i Stockholm

Minor injuries for the bus driver, no passengers on the bus.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:07:02am

re: #223 Decatur Deb

Shame, this week (15 Aug) is the Feast of the Assumption.

I’m having it catered!

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:07:40am

re: #233 Teukka

No, but we have 11’8”s through-and-through evil cousin, 10’2” (3 m), in my city.

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Minor injuries for the bus driver, no passengers on the bus.

LNG/propane fuel?

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:10:53am

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hey Joe, I like your background of alt-Mount Rushmore in the video.

I did it to piss the MAGATS off!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:11:41am

re: #229 stpaulbear

No 11 foot 8’s where you live?

The bridge was finally raised eight inches.

It didn’t help.

The new, shiny 11foot8 +8 canopener is open for business

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:11:46am

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Teukka  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:11:55am

re: #235 Decatur Deb

LNG/propane fuel?

Aye. Punctured tank with ensuing explosion and fire.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:15:02am

re: #229 stpaulbear

Thankfully, nothing that low. Lowest one I’ve seen here is 5.5 meters - 18 feet.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:17:58am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:20:34am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:20:58am

re: #241 wrenchwench

Last year we visited some of the earliest missions in El Paso, founded to serve Christianized refugees from the revolt. One of them is still on a reservation.

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stpaulbear  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:22:56am

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pelosi said he’s full of crap. There was no phone call.

Chuck Schumer said the same thing on Morning Joe today. Schumer has no fucks left to give for Trump or Meadows. Two good clips on YouTube. 1 and 2

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:23:19am

There is a similar bridge in Paris with a clearance of 2m40cm. There is also a blog dedicated to it and other very low bridges in France, with photographs of destroyed trucks and other high-clearance vehicles.

2m40.com

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:24:41am

re: #154 Barefoot Grin

His signature looks more like Mein Kampf than Donald Trump.

His signature looks like the scribbles an unschooled four year old makes when trying to imitate grown-up cursive writing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:26:32am

re: #212 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

After an officer-invovled shooting in Englewood, Ill.

C’mon baby, light my Reichstag fire!

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plansbandc  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:30:36am

So early this morning I’m typing away on the desktop and I feel this tickle on my leg. Yeah, it’s a bug. I’m thinking an ant because it was really delicate. So I swiped at it, and the tickle stopped.

But then *TICKLE!*

So I cupped my hand around the area, and something WAY too big and round was there.

AUGHHHHHHH

SWIPESWIPESWIPESWIPESWIPE

Wasn’t shitty squirmy lots of leggy roachy, more like puffy soft big ass spider. I don’t know. I panicked, so… SWIPE SWIPE, well yeah.

NO WAY to start a day.

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danarchy  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:31:14am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Essentially someone got rich on a pump-and-dump (or something that turned out to be the same).

Currently:

finance.yahoo.com

$10.82 (off about 27.25%)

The giant loan to Kodak really only affected Kodak, not the broader market. As soon as BS was called and the loan cancelled, Kodak stock collapsed back to where it was.

It is still up a few hundred percent from where it was before the announcement.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:33:45am

re: #248 plansbandc

So early this morning I’m typing away on the desktop and I feel this tickle on my leg. Yeah, it’s a bug. I’m thinking an ant because it was really delicate. So I swiped at it, and the tickle stopped.

But then *TICKLE!*

So I cupped my hand around the area, and something WAY too big and round was there.

AUGHHHHHHH

SWIPESWIPESWIPESWIPESWIPE

Wasn’t shitty squirmy lots of leggy roachy, more like puffy soft big ass spider. I don’t know. I panicked, so… SWIPE SWIPE, well yeah.

NO WAY to start a day.

Any remnants? You could have its DNA sequenced….oh, wait. $50,000 is the going rate…SWIPE SWIPE.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:34:13am

Wife is a week into her Denver task, and I’ve eaten the leftovers and “easy” foods from the fridge. Last night I took half a pan of mushroom soup, added wine and a bit of salami to mix with cooked rice. Got a decent Hobo Risotto. Now to lunch.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:34:31am

re: #246 A Three Hour Tour

His signature looks like the scribbles an unschooled four year old makes when trying to imitate grown-up cursive writing.

To be fair — there are many people, even those who are truly accomplished and intelligent, whose writing is illegible. Remember Jack Lew, Obama’s Secretary of the Treasury? He had to work to change his signature from totally illegible to just illegible when he realized it would appear on the U.S. currency.

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plansbandc  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:36:41am

re: #250 wrenchwench

I honestly love spiders. Will never kill one in my house because they are eating the bad bugs. But we have an agreement that we keep our distance.

Had he or she been walking on my desk, I would have captured them and put them outside.

The panicked swiping probably didn’t kill the behemoth, so the damn thing will probably be crawling up my leg again some time today.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:37:24am

re: #252 Hecuba’s daughter

To be fair — there are many people, even those who are truly accomplished and intelligent, whose writing is illegible. Remember Jack Lew, Obama’s Secretary of the Treasury? He had to work to change his signature from totally illegible to just illegible when he realized it would appear on the U.S. currency.

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If it became important for me to have a legible signature vs a signature that belonged to me, I would have to practice a new one.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:38:04am

re: #242 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Hadn’t realized that killing the USPS was a part of MAGA.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:38:17am

re: #253 plansbandc

I honestly love spiders. Will never kill one in my house because they are eating the bad bugs. But we have an agreement that we keep our distance.

Had he or she been walking on my desk, I would have captured them and put them outside.

The panicked swiping probably didn’t kill the behemoth, so the damn thing will probably be crawling up my leg again some time today.

Jeans tucked into Kevlar sox.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:39:26am

Aftermath of looting in downtown Chicago: 13 cops injured, 2 people shot, more than 100 arrests, Mag Mile trashed (Chicago Tribune)

The looting at the Loop started after social media fueled speculation the police shot a fifteen year-old boy.

According to the Civilian Office of Police Accountability, the man in question is twenty years old, and was shot while fleeing because he was shooting back at the police in Englewood. He is expected to survive.

Hundreds of people swept through the Magnificent Mile and other parts of downtown Chicago early Monday, smashing windows, looting stores, confronting police and at one point exchanging gunfire with officers, authorities said.

More than 100 people were arrested as of 9 a.m., according to Chicago Police Superintendent David Brown. Thirteen officers were injured during the unrest, including a sergeant who was hit by a bottle. A civilian and private security guard were shot and wounded.

“What occurred in our downtown and surrounding communities was abject criminal behavior, pure and simple,” Mayor Lori Lightfoot said. “And there cannot be any excuse for it. Period.”

It took police officers roughly four hours to get the downtown back under control, leading to finger pointing across the political spectrum and calls for the Illinois National Guard to once again help quell unrest in the country’s third-largest city.

Stand by for Trumpian demands for the military …

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:39:52am

re: #148 The Pie Overlord!

I. AM. DED. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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What the hell is this? really. What did i just witness? Someone please explain.

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Sherlock Hound  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:43:01am

re: #233 Teukka

In Boston, we call that “Storrowing”, after Storrow Drive, a parkway with multitudes of low bridges. Every fall, novice U-Haul drivers have to get to their dorms via this route. Some don’t make it.

It’s great entertainment for Bostonians, but sadly, this will not be the year for it.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:43:53am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:43:55am

Biden’s aggregate lead on fivethirtyeight.com jumped back up to 8.3%, as a new high quality poll today put him up 53%-40%. If Biden gets 53% of the vote, no chicanery on the margins could deny him victory. I have heard Kushner’s “plan” is to convince magats to vote in person, declare victory if the vote count shows Trump winning election night, then seek a 5-4 SCOTUS ruling disqualifying mail in ballots not counted on election day. I’m pretty sure this desperation plan won’t work, but if Roberts goes along with such nonsense, we have to shut the country down and march on Washington. Pray it doesn’t come to that. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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plansbandc  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:44:04am

re: #256 wrenchwench

Kevlar body suit. :D :D

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:44:40am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

Hadn’t realized that killing the USPS was a part of MAGA.

///

I’m already aware I’m fooked, and I’m making sure every other veteran here knows they are fooked too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:46:30am

re: #262 plansbandc

Kevlar body suit. :D :D

What happens if it gets in your suit? You won’t be able to shoot it then.

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plansbandc  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:48:23am

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Then my spirit leaves my body and I become one with the universe.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:49:18am

re: #254 Belafon

If it became important for me to have a legible signature vs a signature that belonged to me, I would have to practice a new one.

Mine is like the rest of my cursive writing, Palmer method, and close to bookhand perfect.

People who have not seen my cursive writing before say “I write like a girl.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:50:00am

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

social media fueled speculation

is going to be the downfall of the Republic

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:52:46am

re: #252 Hecuba’s daughter

Does anybody write cursive anymore? Do they even bother to teach it?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:53:42am

re: #268 Eric The Fruit Bat

Does anybody write cursive anymore? Do they even bother to teach it?

German schoolkids still have to learn to write cursive with a fountain pen.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:54:08am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mine is like the rest of my cursive writing, Palmer method, and close to bookhand perfect.

People who have not seen my cursive writing before say “I write like a girl.”

You mean it’s legible?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:54:28am

re: #268 Eric The Fruit Bat

Does anybody write cursive anymore? Do they even bother to teach it?

I do, as does everyone in my family (since we communicate by written letters mostly).

Schools here teach it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:54:28am

re: #198 Belafon

Fox News’ Peter Doocy: “Mr. Vice President, have you picked a running mate yet?” Biden, in response, answered “Yeah, I have.” Doocy, believing he had a scoop, asked: “You have? Who is it?” Biden responded: “It’s you,” and continued to ride away.

Wait for Don Jr to post that as MOAR EVIDENSE!!1!!1 that Joe has “lost his marbles.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 9:58:48am

re: #270 Hecuba’s daughter

You mean it’s legible?

I would have to unlearn how to write if I became a physician.

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:00:01am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

social media fueled speculation

is going to be the downfall of the Republic

Madison, in Fedearlist No 10, warned against “passions” of the electorate. Social media is an industrial fan to stoke those passions.

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:01:20am

re: #268 Eric The Fruit Bat

Does anybody write cursive anymore? Do they even bother to teach it?

The only cursive writing I do is my signature.

It’s probably been over a decade since I wrote a letter in cursive.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:01:24am

re: #260 wrenchwench

No, Jim.

America needs a National testing and contract tracing program, PPE for our front line health care workers and a stimulus bill that actually helps working Americans.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:02:07am

re: #248 plansbandc

So early this morning I’m typing away on the desktop and I feel this tickle on my leg. Yeah, it’s a bug. I’m thinking an ant because it was really delicate. So I swiped at it, and the tickle stop.

But then *TICKLE!*

So I cupped my hand around the area, and something WAY too big and round was there.

AUGHHHHHHH

SWIPESWIPESWIPESWIPESWIPE

Was shitty squirmy lots of leggy roachy, more like puffy soft big ass spider. I don’t know. I panicked, so… SWIPE SWIPE, well yeah.

NO WAY to start a day.

The Who - Boris The Spider

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:02:07am

re: #273 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I would have to unlearn how to write if I became a physician.

I’ve read that the doctor’s scribble is actually a form of short hand. So, it’s not really unlearning but learning a new way.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:02:18am

Seems to me that crippling the USPS isn’t exactly a great way to prop up the economy…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:03:15am

re: #274 KGxvi

Madison, in Fedearlist No 10, warned against “passions” of the electorate. Social media is an industrial fan to stoke those passions.

This is beyond passion, this is pent-up rage.

From the reports I have read, this was a clear case of justified and proportional use of police force.

But there is a lot of pent-up rage over the decades-long backlog of unjustified force.

Trumpistas are going to have a field day with this while overlooking the latter aspect of things

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:03:21am

re: #279 Eclectic Cyborg

Seems to me that crippling the USPS isn’t exactly a great way to prop up the economy…

Trumpian politics has never been known for strategic thinking… much more base/lizard brain thinking.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:03:25am

Nebraska sponsors an annual cursive writing competition, this year was the thirtieth anniversary of that. (I have never entered it, that would be unfair to the other competitors in my age group. /s)

UNK looking for best handwriting in Nebraska (Goes to the Custer County Chief, March 5, 2020, UNK is the University of Nebraska at Kearney)

Cursive writing is a thing of the past. Schools across the nation have dropped it from their curriculums, and people live in a world ruled by texting and emails.

But the University of Nebraska at Kearney is keeping the dying art alive with its annual Nebraska Handwriting Contest.

In its 30th year, the competition promotes legible handwriting as an effective means of communication.

(more)

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:03:42am

re: #268 Eric The Fruit Bat

Does anybody write cursive anymore? Do they even bother to teach it?

I still do bluebook exams, and most of my students have decent handwriting that is most often a combo of printing and cursive. I suspect they still teach cursive. Perhaps not with the same rigor is was once taught.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:04:08am

re: #279 Eclectic Cyborg

Seems to me that crippling the USPS isn’t exactly a great way to prop up the economy…

Keeping Trump in office is the only goal, regardless of what it does to the economy or the environment or the Constitution, etc…

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:04:53am

re: #283 Teddy’s Person

I still do bluebook exams, and most of my students have decent handwriting that is most often a combo of printing and cursive. I suspect they still teach cursive. Perhaps not with the same rigor is was once taught.

They have stopped teaching it in NY, for at least 5 years now.

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ericblair  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:05:17am

re: #268 Eric The Fruit Bat

Does anybody write cursive anymore? Do they even bother to teach it?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:06:25am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Keeping Trump in office is the only goal, regardless of what it does to the economy or the environment or the Constitution, etc…

If crippling the USPS will help prevent mail in ballots from being counted, Trump wouldn’t hesitate.

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:06:46am

re: #283 Teddy’s Person

I still do bluebook exams, and most of my students have decent handwriting that is most often a combo of printing and cursive. I suspect they still teach cursive. Perhaps not with the same rigor is was once taught.

I don’t think I ever used cursive in high school, undergrad, or law school for exams. Hell, I don’t think I used it after elementary school when it was required.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:08:00am

re: #287 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If crippling the USPS will help prevent mail in ballots from being counted, Trump wouldn’t hesitate.

They are counting on the people having a attitude of “they’re all a bunch of shiftless bureaucrats and lazy government fucks, so screw ‘em!”

And some of them will, but an awful lot of people are well aware of what the USPS does for them and how much they depend on it.

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:08:35am

re: #287 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If crippling the USPS will help prevent mail in ballots from being counted, Trump wouldn’t hesitate.

The question is, whether preventing mail in ballots from being counted will actually help Trump. As I understand it, at least historically (and sure, this year will probably be an outlier), in states that aren’t all mail in voting, mail in voting typically helps the GOP. Like, this may actually be him shooting himself in the foot.

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:09:37am
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:09:39am
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jaunte  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:09:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:09:57am

re: #290 KGxvi

The question is, whether preventing mail in ballots from being counted will actually help Trump. As I understand it, at least historically (and sure, this year will probably be an outlier), in states that aren’t all mail in voting, mail in voting typically helps the GOP. Like, this may actually be him shooting himself in the foot.

unless it is part of a bigger, more sinister plan…

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:10:38am

re: #288 KGxvi

I don’t think I ever used cursive in high school, undergrad, or law school for exams. Hell, I don’t think I used it after elementary school when it was required.

My handwriting is a combination of both printing and cursive. For example, when I write “the” I print the “t” do a combo for the “h” (not loop in the straight part) but do a cursive “e”.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:10:46am

re: #258 I Would Prefer Not To

What the hell is this? really. What did i just witness? Someone please explain.

You saw Benjy auditioning for The Gong Show and he failed.

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:11:39am

re: #291 jaunte

well, teh zodiac killer eventually went away!!1!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:11:54am

Last week, The Satanic Temple (TST) introduced “the Satanic Abortion Ritual”—a ritual designed to provide religious support and comfort for women who’ve decided to get an abortion.

But the ritual has legal consequences as we all spiritual ones: TST claims that if abortion is incorporated into a religious ritual, then states with Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) laws must provide abortion on demand for Satanic women. Mandatory waiting periods or requirements such as reading anti-abortion literature, listening to fetal heartbeats, or viewing sonograms would violate the religious freedom of Satanic women by disrupting their sacred ritual.

As Jane Essex, Spokesperson for TST’s Religious Reproductive Rights Campaign puts it, “It would be unconstitutional to require a waiting period before receiving holy communion. It would be illegal to demand Muslims seek counseling prior to Ramadan.” Is TST sincere about sacralizing abortion or is this just a canny legal stratagem? And could this actually corner states with RFRA laws into granting abortion on demand? (more)

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danarchy  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:12:41am

re: #288 KGxvi

I don’t think I ever used cursive in high school, undergrad, or law school for exams. Hell, I don’t think I used it after elementary school when it was required.

Same.

My friends who have school age kids have told me they have stopped teaching it here. The only downside is I think it will make it harder for aspiring historians to go back and study original source documents.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:13:17am

Apparently my employee’s emotional support animal found out I’m a messy eater. She sounds like a little piggy looking for crumbs.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:13:50am
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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:14:08am

re: #295 Teddy’s Person

My handwriting is a combination of both printing and cursive. For example, when I write “the” I print the “t” do a combo for the “h” (not loop in the straight part) but do a cursive “e”.

my printing, I suppose could look a bit like handwriting when I don’t lift the pen fully from the page, but it’s usually still pretty obviously printed. I don’t think there’s any traditional cursive lettering in my writing.

Also, weird tick of my cursive in my signature is that the my lower case f’s are basically super narrow figure 8’s.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:14:41am

re: #300 Shropshire Slasher

OMG OMG OMG! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

GIVE HER EVERYTHING YOU MONSTER!

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:14:54am

re: #300 Shropshire Slasher

Frenchies gonna frenchie

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:16:12am

re: #266 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mine is like the rest of my cursive writing, Palmer method, and close to bookhand perfect.

People who have not seen my cursive writing before say “I write like a girl.”

Still remember getting my wrist slapped by my 3rd and 4th grade teachers because I had major problems with cursive writing.

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KGxvi  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:16:43am

re: #299 danarchy

Same.

My friends who have school age kids have told me they have stopped teaching it here. The only downside is I think it will make it harder for aspiring historians to go back and study original source documents.

There will probably eventually be a class in history departments to teach students how to read cursive.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:16:57am

re: #298 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The entire purpose of the Satanic Temple is to be a legal argument for why allowing religion in law is a bad thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:19:16am

re: #286 ericblair

I see your Russian cursive and raise you German Sütterlin handwriting, which was taught in German schools until 1941.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:19:47am

re: #299 danarchy

Same.

My friends who have school age kids have told me they have stopped teaching it here. The only downside is I think it will make it harder for aspiring historians to go back and study original source documents.

And those documents are challenging enough when you know cursive. I still have one document from my dissertation research that I could never read. It was on microfilm so I have a printed copy, but no magnifying glass could help make sense of it. It was unfortunate. I could read enough of the title and opening paragraph to know that it probably contained something use full, but I never could decipher the person’s handwriting to get all the info.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:20:59am

re: #302 KGxvi

my printing, I suppose could look a bit like handwriting when I don’t lift the pen fully from the page, but it’s usually still pretty obviously printed. I don’t think there’s any traditional cursive lettering in my writing.

Also, weird tick of my cursive in my signature is that the my lower case f’s are basically super narrow figure 8’s.

The “super narrow figure 8” is actually a different letter, recognised (though fallen out of use in the USA) for “long s.”

In typesetting, long s is confusing, as it looks like a letter f without the crossbar, or half a crossbar.

That letter is where you get phrases in print from the late XVIII and early XIX Centuries such as “In Congreſs Aſsembled”

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Jay C  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:21:34am

re: #261 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Biden’s aggregate lead on fivethirtyeight.com jumped back up to 8.3%, as a new high quality poll today put him up 53%-40%. If Biden gets 53% of the vote, no chicanery on the margins could deny him victory. I have heard Kushner’s “plan” is to convince magats to vote in person, declare victory if the vote count shows Trump winning election night, then seek a 5-4 SCOTUS ruling disqualifying mail in ballots not counted on election day. I’m pretty sure this desperation plan won’t work, but if Roberts goes along with such nonsense, we have to shut the country down and march on Washington. Pray it doesn’t come to that. projects.fivethirtyeight.com

Sounds pretty lame and desperate, so yeah: almost certainly Jared’s idea: but relies on a couple of BIG “ifs”.

First, since the (D) ticket is virtually assured of the 78 EVs from the Pacific region (CA, OR, WA, HI) - as soon as the blue count gets to 193, it’s “Game Over” for Trump and the GOP. And it’s very likely that, given the way the electoral map shakes out (and the media’s obsession with up-to-the-nanosecond “analysis”), the Biden ticket will be getting there, or near there, fairly early after poll-closure on the East Coast. As disgracefully usual, it’s all likely to come down to Florida (AGAIN!!!) - but the likelihood of a Trump “victory on Election Night ” - however loudly they may squawk - is pretty damn slim. At least so far.

Secondly, as has been pointed out here and elsewhere many many times: even though the Presidential election has nationwide impact, it is actually 50 separate state-run elections: each state having its own rules about counting and certifying ballots (mail-in or otherwise): it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Trump and his creatures might call out the Legion Of Idiocy to go out and challenge the election results here and there: but if they are thinking of doing it on the grounds of “disqualifying” mail-in ballots - ballots either allowed under state laws OR already disqualified by state laws (late mailing or whatever), they are likely to get a sharp lesson in election law PDQ.

And thirdly, relying on John Roberts as an accomplice to this sort of bullshit is a fool’s game: he’s got his job (for life), and will be around next term whoever will be occupying the WH - things would have be extraordinarily close and ambiguous for SCOTUS to even want to get involved. And 2020 does NOT seem to be falling out that way.

I hope.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:21:43am

re: #307 Belafon

The entire purpose of the Satanic Temple is to be a legal argument for why allowing religion in law is a bad thing.

along with the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

And fucking Scientology

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:24:02am

re: #310 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The “super narrow figure 9” is actually a different, recognised (though fallen out of use in the USA) for “long s.”

In typesetting, long s is confusing, as it looks like a letter f without the crossbar, or half a crossbar.

That letter is where you get phrases in print from the late XVIII and early XIX Centuries such as “In Congreſs Aſsembled”

I would be curious whether or not colleges in their history departments offer any courses on how to read cursive, since you pretty much need to, along with knowing some of the potential pitfalls, in order to read original documentation, and pretty much any documents before typewriters became common place. And even then there was still a lot of cursive materials being created.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:25:46am

re: #312 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

along with the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

And fucking Scientology

upding for “fucking Scientology”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:25:57am

re: #311 Jay C

The “Legion of Idiocy” (LOL) is already planning court challenges in all fifty states. That is the GOP’s “Fifty State Strategy.”

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:26:08am

re: #312 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

along with the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

And fucking Scientology

I’m pretty sure Scientology is just a Ponzi scheme with a tax break.

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Jay C  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:27:31am

re: #299 danarchy

Same.

My friends who have school age kids have told me they have stopped teaching it here. The only downside is I think it will make it harder for aspiring historians to go back and study original source documents.

I remember a few years back, we visited a couple who had a (then-) high-school-age son, and the subject came up: son explained that with modern methods of communication, he virtually NEVER had to actually “write” anything by hand - except, of course, for his signature, which is merely a stylized glyph, so any scribble will do, as long as it’s consistent. Hence: no more need for “handwriting” skills than for, say, impressing cuneiform on a clay tablet…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:27:52am

If cursive goes away, how will people sign documents? With an X?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:29:18am

re: #316 Belafon

I’m pretty sure Scientology is just a Ponzi scheme with a tax break.

“You don’t get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.”

- L. Ron Hubbard, 1948

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:30:31am

re: #314 Shropshire Slasher

upding for “fucking Scientology”

it was created just to take advantage of religious exemptions…more power to them in that respect, but fuck them otherwise.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:33:41am
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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:34:21am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:34:40am

re: #313 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I would be curious whether or not colleges in their history departments offer any courses on how to read cursive, since you pretty much need to, along with knowing some of the potential pitfalls, in order to read original documentation, and pretty much any documents before typewriters became common place. And even then there was still a lot of cursive materials being created.

Is there a history major in the house? /s

That might be a question to pose to Kevin Kruse on Twitter (if he takes questions).

I imagine American, Canadian, and Great Britain documents would require such courses, as well as the changes in the language even over the last hundred years.

The further back you go, the tougher it gets. Old English neither looks nor really reads like Modern English.

Even the language of the King James Version of the Bible (strictly, Ancient Modern English) is very difficult to master even in modern typesetting: Over four hundred years many words have changed meanings, some are no longer used, grammatical structure has changed.

When my wife taught adult literacy in Oklahoma, her student wanted to be able to read the Bible. Her church used the KJV.

My wife went to the pastor of that church (atheism notwithstanding) and asked the pastor if it would be appropriate for her to obtain a more modern version of the Bible to make it easier to teach, due to the difficulty of Ancient Modern English.

The pastor was delighted, and instead bought a Children’s Bible for my wife’s student.

My wife used that Bible in every reading lesson (augmenting the public library’s literacy programme).

The proudest moment of her student’s journey (she is a grandmother) was when she was able to read the designated Bible passage from the pulpit of her church from that children’s Bible. My wife attended her church the day the pastor asked her to read; her student received a standing ovation from the membership of the church.

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IngisKahn  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:35:17am

Can’t beat Chinese cursive:

Even if my writing was legible, I tend to use thorn, eth, and long s, so it just pisses people off.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:36:03am
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Teukka  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:36:42am

re: #324 IngisKahn

Can’t beat Chinese cursive:

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Even if my writing was legible, I tend to use thorn, eth, and long s, so it just pisses people off.

Is it here where 𝕴 𝖇𝖗𝖊𝖆𝖐 𝖔𝖚𝖙 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝕱𝖗𝖆𝖐𝖙𝖚𝖗 𝖋𝖔𝖓𝖙?

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makeitstop  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:36:43am

re: #297 KGxvi

well, teh zodiac killer eventually went away!!1!

Isn’t he a senator from Texas now?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:37:57am

re: #324 IngisKahn

I sign my name with dark l, but that is in my last name. It even appears on my driver’s license (typewriter l backspace /)

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:38:11am

re: #313 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I would be curious whether or not colleges in their history departments offer any courses on how to read cursive, since you pretty much need to, along with knowing some of the potential pitfalls, in order to read original documentation, and pretty much any documents before typewriters became common place. And even then there was still a lot of cursive materials being created.

None of the departments I’ve been either a student or teach offer any courses like that. Once you decide what research you’re going to do you just figure it out and consult professors who specialize in that area. A friend from grad school used mostly 20th century sources that were typed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:40:10am

Programming note: I can never see the bottom of the pop-up box from the help button (?) because it goes off the bottom of my screen.

Therefore I can’t include any useful fonts because I don’t know how to put the tags in for them.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:40:46am

re: #329 Teddy’s Person

None of the departments I’ve been either a student or teach offer any courses like that. Once you decide what research you’re going to do you just figure it out and consult professors who specialize in that area. A friend from grad school used mostly 20th century sources that were typed.

From other comments, it looks like the decision to not teach cursive is a recent development (5 yrs or so). Those students won’t be in college for awhile so future department my have to offer such a course.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:47:05am

‘Cancel Culture’ Is as Old as Religion, And It’s Only a Thing Because of Who’s Doing the Cancelling (by Shaul Magid, Religion Dispatches)

The lines of communication between what I happen to think and your ear have never been unmediated unless you happened to pass by my front lawn as I stood there and expounded on the ills of the world. Before this present moment, for example, would anyone think of accusing a newspaper of “cancel culture” because they rejected one’s letter to the editor (if so, I would have been the victim of cancel culture many times over).

But something has changed. Let me cite a few examples. When I was a young assistant professor at The Jewish Theological Seminary I received many invitations from Conservative synagogues to speak about my research, or on topical matters. I enjoyed such opportunities. Once I began publishing essays criticizing Israel’s occupation, the invitations stopped. Pretty abruptly. As I told a friend at the time, I could close my eyes and envision my name being summarily plucked from the Rolodexes in synagogue offices. Did that disturb me? Not really. While I certainly missed the extra income, I knew that was the price I paid for making my views public on a contentious matter. At no point did I think I was being cancelled. In fact, I was happy that at least they were reading my essays.

A second example happened more recently. I read an essay in an online journal on a topic I know something about that I felt was very problematic, not because I disagreed with the views expressed therein (although I did), but because the essay contained errors, inaccuracies, leaps of logic, and was poorly argued. I wrote to the editors of the journal to express my dissatisfaction. In response I received a very mean-spirited response from one editor accusing me of “bullying a young writer” (the editor called him “a kid”) and claiming he was just “living his truth” (he was an American who had immigrated to Israel).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:48:58am

re: #332 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

‘Cancel Culture’ Is as Old as Religion, And It’s Only a Thing Because of Who’s Doing the Cancelling (by Shaul Magid, Religion Dispatches)

Protestants smashing statues of saints and the Virgin Mary, demolishing “pagan” temples and sacred sites…yep, a big part of our Culture and Heritage is destroying other cultures and heritages

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:51:57am

re: #283 Teddy’s Person

I still do bluebook exams, and most of my students have decent handwriting that is most often a combo of printing and cursive. I suspect they still teach cursive. Perhaps not with the same rigor is was once taught.

Not only can my teenage sons not write in cursive, they can’t read it either.

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jaunte  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:52:29am
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IngisKahn  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:53:09am

Ya, I þink ðe way I write tends to piſs people off. And don’t get me ſtarted on ðou.

(I won’t write like this except in my personal notes… Ænd êvin ðœn, Î tœnd tu yuz mî on ælfebœtik ſiſtemz… I might be insane.)

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mmmirele  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:53:24am

re: #133 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Thread

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I didn’t read the article (yet) but one response caught my eye. They were asking if this was the 2020s version of the Satanic Ritual Abuse scare of the late 1980s and early 1990s. If I can find a moment, I think I might want to take a look at that. I think there is definitely something to that.

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Teukka  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:53:30am
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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:54:00am

re: #330 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Programming note: I can never see the bottom of the pop-up box from the help button (?) because it goes off the bottom of my screen.

Therefore I can’t include any useful fonts because I don’t know how to put the tags in for them.

Here’s the first link from the box.

Here’s the second one.

Now you can do more than what’s in the box.

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:54:09am

re: #305 🌹UOJB!

Still remember getting my wrist slapped by my 3rd and 4th grade teachers because I had major problems with cursive writing.

I never passed penmanship. Not once
Red Fs every single time

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:54:59am

re: #269 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

German schoolkids still have to learn to write cursive with a fountain pen.

Could be worse, they could still be using Fractur.

(Which I think was only for printing. Every time a German has told me a joke they’ve had to explain it to me, which is why I am putting in this parenthetical remark. To spoil the joke you see, as if I were one of my German cousins).

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:55:33am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

If cursive goes away, how will people sign documents? With an X?

ESig

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dangerman  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:55:58am

re: #309 Teddy’s Person

And those documents are challenging enough when you know cursive. I still have one document from my dissertation research that I could never read. It was on microfilm so I have a printed copy, but no magnifying glass could help make sense of it. It was unfortunate. I could read enough of the title and opening paragraph to know that it probably contained something use full, but I never could decipher the person’s handwriting to get all the info.

I often can’t read my own writing from yesterday

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:56:18am

re: #324 IngisKahn

Can’t beat Chinese cursive:

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Even if my writing was legible, I tend to use thorn, eth, and long s, so it just pisses people off.

Yeah, but isn’t that a doctor’s prescription? I think that’s a global requirement for doctors.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:56:26am

re: #318 Eclectic Cyborg

If cursive goes away, how will people sign documents? With an X?

Emojis

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IngisKahn  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:56:30am

re: #340 dangerman

I went to Catholic school, so I got U’s and I’s in penmanship.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:57:14am

re: #346 IngisKahn

I went to Catholic school, so I got U’s and I’s in penmanship.

Unintelligible & Intelligible?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:57:16am

re: #333 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Protestants smashing statues of saints and the Virgin Mary, demolishing “pagan” temples and sacred sites…yep, a big part of our Culture and Heritage is destroying other cultures and heritages

In his summary in that article, Professor Magid writes:

In light of the Harper’s Magazine letter, I find it curious that many now decrying cancel culture are the very beneficiaries of precisely that culture before it was named. That is, beneficiaries of all kinds of other people being excluded from the public sphere because of their religion, race, sexual orientation, or political views (communists, for example).

Thankfully our society is slowly rectifying those sins. But now to raise the issue of ideological discrimination as if to say, you cannot prevent me from saying that I want to say in your newspaper, or at your university, in your church, or even on your Facebook page, seems like protesting too much. That kind of freedom was never given, nor should it be foisted on, any community, publication, or platform.

Shaul Magid is a Professor of Jewish Studies at Dartmouth College, Kogod Senior Research Fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute of North America, and Contributing Editor to Tablet magazine. His forthcoming book Meir Kahane: An American Jewish Radical will be published by Princeton University Press.

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:57:21am

re: #270 Hecuba’s daughter

You mean it’s legible?

I find correctly done French cursive writing almost unintelligible as all the letters are almost identical.

You can tell when it’s written by a girl because the dots over the “i” are little hearts.

I apologize for that last bit, the scriptwriter has been fired.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:58:11am

re: #341 John Hughes

Could be worse, they could still be using Fractur.

(Which I think was only for printing. Every time a German has told me a joke they’ve had to explain it to me, which is why I am putting in this parenthetical remark. To spoil the joke you see, as if I were one of my German cousins).

I recently heard my favorite German joke to date:

Guys planning their 10th class reunion: “Let’s go to the Ratskeller, they have a hot waitress!”
Guys planning their 20th class reunion: “Let’s go to the Ratskeller, they serve really big schnitzels!”
Guys planning their 30th class reunion: “Let’s go to the Ratskeller, it’s wheelchair accessible!”
Guys planning their 50th class reunion: “Let’s go to the Ratskeller, we’ve never been there before!”

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 10:59:28am

re: #273 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I would have to unlearn how to write if I became a physician.

Once I took one of my family doctor’s prescriptions to our local pharmacy and it was so bad that, despite having worked with him for decades, they had to phone him to ask what the hell he had written.

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IngisKahn  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:01:54am

re: #347 b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)

Unintelligible & Intelligible?

For some reason the A-F grading scale wasn’t used, they had O G S I U - Outstanding, Good, Statisfactory, Improvement needed, Unsatisfactory

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:02:26am

Sad but true

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:03:43am

re: #349 John Hughes

I find correctly done French cursive writing almost unintelligible as all the letters are almost identical.

You can tell when it’s written by a girl because the dots over the “i” are little hearts.

I apologize for that last bit, the scriptwriter has been fired.

I do circles, not hearts (my radical departure from Palmer Method cursive). I also modify the majescule letters P and D to move more fluidly. My miniscule P is from English roundhand (the loop of the P is not a loop and the stem of the P extends above the centreline of a penmanship book, similar to miniscule B or D.

I use Copperplate cursive when I’m using a split-nib or chisel point pen, such as a fountain pen or a calligraphy pen.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:04:10am

re: #337 mmmirele

I didn’t read the article (yet) but one response caught my eye. They were asking if this was the 2020s version of the Satanic Ritual Abuse scare of the late 1980s and early 1990s. If I can find a moment, I think I might want to take a look at that. I think there is definitely something to that.

As far as I’m concerned, it’s the Satanic Ritual Abuse moral panic redux. There’s some minor original elements, like the addition of “adrenochrome” harvesting, but even there, that’s just the Blood Libel under a new moniker.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:04:19am
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dangerman  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:04:42am

re: #311 Jay C

Further to this

Kushner’s “plan” is to convince magats to vote in person, declare victory if the vote count shows Trump winning election night,

That just not how any of this works
Nobody wins on election night
Ever

When the AP or other media call races that night they are based on exit polls or at best partial early returns. They are not complete or final counts . And certainly not official

The vote is official when the state says it is

No shenanigans to stop the first complete count are gonna work.
Bush v gore was something else entirely

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:04:50am

re: #321 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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So nice to see Hitler Lover KKKandace chime in…

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:05:41am

When doing research in Japan I sat in on a grad course for reading old brush-written documents (and I have a nifty dictionary, too, that I never use). As a general rule, the characters themselves are easier to read the farther back you go, but a lot of the earliest are in Chinese grammatical form. Early modern Japanese (1600-1868) sticks in most cases to an indigenous epistolary grammar that wasn’t spoken but is somewhat easier to comprehend—if you can learn how to read what seems like a long series of squirrely lines and blotches.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:05:49am

re: #353 I Would Prefer Not To

Sad but true

I’m good, though I’m probably the least-affluent person in town, aside from my eighty+ year-old neighbour. This town is also blazingly white (we have a few Poncan natives and one Cuban immigrant).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:06:18am
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dangerman  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:06:53am

re: #321 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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And more to the point, don’t care what you think

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:07:02am

re: #359 Barefoot Grin

LGF: Come for the politics, stay for the lessons in historical international calligraphy and cursive writing styles.

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John Hughes  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:07:54am

re: #341 John Hughes

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I see your Russian cursive and raise you German Sütterlin handwriting, which was taught in German schools until 1941.

Well, damn.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:10:12am

re: #358 🌹UOJB!

So nice to see Hitler Lover KKKandace chime in…

The part of Stepin Fetchit today will be played by Candace Owens.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:10:37am

re: #323 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Is there a history major in the house? /s

That might be a question to pose to Kevin Kruse on Twitter (if he takes questions).

I imagine American, Canadian, and Great Britain documents would require such courses, as well as the changes in the language even over the last hundred years.

The further back you go, the tougher it gets. Old English neither looks nor really reads like Modern English.

Even the language of the King James Version of the Bible (strictly, Ancient Modern English) is very difficult to master even in modern typesetting: Over four hundred years many words have changed meanings, some are no longer used, grammatical structure has changed.

When my wife taught adult literacy in Oklahoma, her student wanted to be able to read the Bible. Her church used the KJV.

My wife went to the pastor of that church (atheism notwithstanding) and asked the pastor if it would be appropriate for her to obtain a more modern version of the Bible to make it easier to teach, due to the difficulty of Ancient Modern English.

The pastor was delighted, and instead bought a Children’s Bible for my wife’s student.

My wife used that Bible in every reading lesson (augmenting the public library’s literacy programme).

The proudest moment of her student’s journey (she is a grandmother) was when she was able to read the designated Bible passage from the pulpit of her church from that children’s Bible. My wife attended her church the day the pastor asked her to read; her student received a standing ovation from the membership of the church.

Depends on your area of concentration and need for language skills. I was a history major and didn’t need need special language training, but if you’re going for a Ph.D, you might need some to do original research/scholarship in an area - but that’d be language skills outside the History department.

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:12:08am
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stpaulbear  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:15:00am

re: #367 lawhawk

Well that’s one less band who’s music I need to explore.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:15:10am

re: #366 lawhawk

Depends on your area of concentration and need for language skills. I was a history major and didn’t need need special language training, but if you’re going for a Ph.D, you might need some to do original research/scholarship in an area - but that’d be language skills outside the History department.

I had a language requirement for both my MA and PhD. It wasn’t very rigorous. For my MA, I just look classes at a local community college. For my PhD, I just had to translate a paragraph with the help of a dictionary. My advisor told me that as an Americanist all I really needed to be able to do is recognize whether I needed to pay someone to translate a document.

For non-Americanists, the language requirement was still the same, but they obviously had to know a language better than the requirement tested for.

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makeitstop  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:16:10am

re: #367 lawhawk

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Thousands gathered to see Smash Mouth?

What, did they close all the bars?

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:18:08am

Ed Markey not having any of the Zodiac Killer’s nonsense.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:18:26am

re: #362 dangerman

And more to the point, don’t care what you think

Obviously, somebody cares what Kandace is “willing” to think.
I mean, she does appear to be making well above a ‘living wage’ doing what she does.

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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:19:19am

re: #370 makeitstop

Thousands gathered to see Smash Mouth?

What, did they close all the bars?

Sturgis

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:20:19am
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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:20:28am

I 💚 Jimmy

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:20:39am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:23:41am

re: #334 Barefoot Grin

Not only can my teenage sons not write in cursive, they can’t read it either.

You’re in luck then, if you ever want to write a secret in a note.

My son knows cursive writing. It was mandatory in DODDS schools when he attended, and later in his Florida schools. That was just before the “Great Abandonment” of penmanship lessons in elementary schools across the nation, though.

I’m guessing if he ever fathered a child (LOL no), that child would not learn cursive unless its parents insisted on it.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:24:31am

re: #369 Teddy’s Person

I had a language requirement for both my MA and PhD. It wasn’t very rigorous. For my MA, I just look classes at a local community college. For my PhD, I just had to translate a paragraph with the help of a dictionary. My advisor told me that as an Americanist all I really needed to be able to do is recognize whether I needed to pay someone to translate a document.

For non-Americanists, the language requirement was still the same, but they obviously had to know a language better than the requirement tested for.

We had to have mastery over one East Asian language, two years of another, and a “reading French” certification (a lot of Sinology was done in French early on, but it’s an antiquated idea and has not been a part of my work at all).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:27:12am

re: #336 IngisKahn

Ya, I þink ðe way I write tends to piſs people off. And don’t get me ſtarted on ðou.

(I won’t write like this except in my personal notes… Ænd êvin ðœn, Î tœnd tu yuz mî on ælfebœtik ſiſtemz… I might be insane.)

Due to that wonderful comment, today’s random acknowledgement of LGF Karma points goes to IngisKhan, who at this moment has 688 points.

Mr. Johnson is still negotiating trading karma points for US postage stamps, so keep saving your points.

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danarchy  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:28:12am

re: #371 Teddy’s Person

Ed Markey not having any of the Zodiac Killer’s nonsense.

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This may be an unpopular opinion here, but I think Markey needs to get real himself. If the pandemic runs, optimistically, until January of next year and then an additional 3 months after that his plan will cost almost 10 Trillion dollars, on top of the trillions already spent in the CARES act and and trillions injected by the Fed. Never mind any additional spending needed for healthcare, education, state support etc. between now and then. You would be looking at spending almost the entire US GDP in a year.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:28:40am

re: #378 Barefoot Grin

We had to have mastery over one East Asian language, two years of another, and a “reading French” certification (a lot of Sinology was done in French early on, but it’s an antiquated idea and has not been a part of my work at all).

I did Spanish as my language requirement, but probably should have done French since it was the language of diplomacy during the time period I studied but I wasn’t doing diplomatic and/or political history. So, I went with the language where I had a little prior knowledge. Basically to take the easy way out. Learning languages is not my strong suit.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:30:02am

re: #362 dangerman

And more to the point, don’t care what you think

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Figures Prager would call on Candace for a representative view on racism.

//

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:31:16am

re: #382 Sir John Barron

Figures Prager would call on Candace for a representative view on racism.

//

Isn’t she an employee? She’s basically being paid by Prager to say the bulkshit she’s saying.

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makeitstop  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:32:56am

re: #373 Belafon

Sturgis

Still. It’s Smashmouth we’re talking about here.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:33:04am

re: #339 wrenchwench

Here’s the first link from the box.

Here’s the second one.

Now you can do more than what’s in the box.

Hey thanks! Now I can learn to do more, though a cursory examination of those pages are about special characters and icons, not fonts.

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NetworkKed  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:33:36am

Cursive was useful for as long as I needed to write more than one sentence in a row with a pen.

…there might have been a few essay questions on tests in college that worked like that - the one international relations course comes to mind. But the real work was always in a word processor, and realistically as a life skill the whole handwriting track (1st-3rd grade) did nothing but make me permanently resent schoolwork.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:34:00am

re: #292 The Pie Overlord!

[Embedded content]

CAncEl CuLTuRe

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makeitstop  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:34:54am

This Slate article…wow.

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wrenchwench  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:35:19am

Use the picture icon.

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mmmirele  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:36:32am

re: #288 KGxvi

I don’t think I ever used cursive in high school, undergrad, or law school for exams. Hell, I don’t think I used it after elementary school when it was required.

Handwriting was a required subject in my elementary school and I did very poorly at it, due to poor motor skills. But I got it up to legible. I went to law school in the days before laptops, so I had to scribble notes, which I then transferred to a text file on a C/PM computer I stole from my dad. My typing skills on a keyboard are fantastic as a result. But I still have calluses from gripping a pen to take notes in law school.

Interestingly, there was a period in Japan prior to the invention of the smart phone, where it looked like hiragana, katakana and romaji were going to seriously supplant the use of kanji. Which is an issue, because the spoken Japanese language has LOTS of homonyms. However, the invention of smartphones allowed for the invention of a 10 key soft keyboard mapped to hiragana and katakana, which then allows the user to select the appropriate kanji. It’s actually pretty clever. Especially for someone like me, who knows the kanji but doesn’t remember the specific on’yomi (Chinese reading) but knows the kun’yomi (Japanese reading). Either will bring up the right kanji. So yeah, smart phones are useful for something.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:36:34am

re: #375 Teddy’s Person

I 💚 Jimmy

[Embedded content]

And I remember Pruneface Reagan attacking Carter for doing that.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:37:18am

re: #340 dangerman

I never passed penmanship. Not once
Red Fs every single time

Me either.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:37:32am

re: #376 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Anyone in the DC Press Corpse challenging Axis Sally?

Anyone?????

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Sir John Barron  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:37:59am

re: #371 Teddy’s Person

Ed Markey not having any of the Zodiac Killer’s nonsense.

[Embedded content]

I wonder what Ted will tweet when he eventually votes for the next relief package?

/

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:39:02am

re: #342 The Pie Overlord!

ESig

All signatures in my professional career are digital. Been that way for at least five years.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:39:16am

re: #383 lawhawk

Isn’t she an employee? She’s basically being paid by Prager to say the bulkshit she’s saying.

Candace Owens says her favourite person to interview is Dennis Prager. She has created videos for his bullshyte university.

(6:31)
Candace Owens And Dennis Prager Fall In Love Over How Horrible They Are (goes to Majority Report with Sam Seder at YouTube, May 14, 2019).

Candace Owens And Dennis Prager Fall In Love Over How Horrible They Are

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:42:21am

re: #396 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Candace Owens says her favourite person to interview is Dennis Prager. She has created videos for his bullshyte university.

(6:31)
Candace Owens And Dennis Prager Fall In Love Over How Horrible They Are (goes to Majority Report with Sam Seder at YouTube, May 14, 2019.

[Embedded content]

Occasionally, I wish I could have my integrity removed so that I could cash in on wing-nut welfare. I could do it at least as well as Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:42:54am

re: #371 Teddy’s Person

Ed Markey not having any of the Zodiac Killer’s nonsense.

[Embedded content]

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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:45:56am
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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:46:48am

re: #376 lawhawk

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I think what gets me is that they spent two months using the HEROES Act as a punching bag, calling it a “far-left wish list” and other BS. But as soon as the time came to put together an actual relief bill, suddenly they want to act as though Dems have done nothing since March and it’s the Repubs who have tried to make something happen before the deadline last month.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:48:00am

re: #229 stpaulbear

No 11 foot 8’s where you live?

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The infamous 11 foot 8 bridge, aka “the can opener” or “the Gregson guillotine” is in Durham NC and has its own wikipedia page:
Norfolk Southern-Gregson Street Overpass

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lawhawk  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:49:01am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:50:24am

re: #390 mmmirele

Handwriting was a required subject in my elementary school and I did very poorly at it, due to poor motor skills. But I got it up to legible. I went to law school in the days before laptops, so I had to scribble notes, which I then transferred to a text file on a C/PM computer I stole from my dad. My typing skills on a keyboard are fantastic as a result. But I still have calluses from gripping a pen to take notes in law school.

Interestingly, there was a period in Japan prior to the invention of the smart phone, where it looked like hiragana, katakana and romaji were going to seriously supplant the use of kanji. Which is an issue, because the spoken Japanese language has LOTS of homonyms. However, the invention of smartphones allowed for the invention of a 10 key soft keyboard mapped to hiragana and katakana, which then allows the user to select the appropriate kanji. It’s actually pretty clever. Especially for someone like me, who knows the kanji but doesn’t remember the specific on’yomi (Chinese reading) but knows the kun’yomi (Japanese reading). Either will bring up the right kanji. So yeah, smart phones are useful for something.

From the Meiji period there were Japanese who wanted to replace kanji with romaji (or, in the case of a couple of hotheads, get rid of the Japanese language altogether in favor of French or English). Early newspapers required furigana next to each character because literacy rates for reading kanji was still relatively low. During the Occupation, American reformers actually—with Japanese cooperation—introduced an all-romaji curriculum for a couple of schools in order to prove that it would be more efficient. After the Occupation ended and conservatives were firmly in control, they reversed limits on kanji in daily use and doubled-down on time in class spent on Japanese language. It was a tremendous amount of work to make keyboards map to Japanese, but as you note, the efforts paid off.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:50:27am

re: #397 Teddy’s Person

Occasionally, I wish I could have my integrity removed so that I could cash in on wing-nut welfare. I could do it at least as well as Candice Owens, Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro.

LOL

I don’t know if I could do as well as they are, but I can string along cogent arguments. (That means I don’t qualify for the wingnut welfare circuit out of the gate.)

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teleskiguy  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:51:16am

Yeah. Remember when Fuckface Von Clownstick invited champion football players to the White House for dinner, a building with kitchens and chefs that can prepare multi-course banquets of world class cuisine and instead he… did that?

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:52:39am
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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:53:51am

re: #405 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Yeah. Remember when Fuckface Von Clownstick invited champion football players to the White House for dinner, a building with kitchens and chefs that can prepare multi-course banquets of world class cuisine and instead he… did that?

What I remember is wingnuts talking about how the athletes who got the honor of visiting the White House would prefer cold fast food because “it’s what they’re used to.”

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:54:17am

re: #406 Teddy’s Person

[Embedded content]

Just waiting for a Qbot to claim that they’re hiding one of the mole children in that box.

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William Lewis  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:54:25am

re: #390 mmmirele

Handwriting was a required subject in my elementary school and I did very poorly at it, due to poor motor skills. But I got it up to legible. I went to law school in the days before laptops, so I had to scribble notes, which I then transferred to a text file on a C/PM computer I stole from my dad. My typing skills on a keyboard are fantastic as a result. But I still have calluses from gripping a pen to take notes in law school

C/PM? You have my sympathy. Wordstar?

Interestingly, there was a period in Japan prior to the invention of the smart phone, where it looked like hiragana, katakana and romaji were going to seriously supplant the use of kanji. Which is an issue, because the spoken Japanese language has LOTS of homonyms. However, the invention of smartphones allowed for the invention of a 10 key soft keyboard mapped to hiragana and katakana, which then allows the user to select the appropriate kanji. It’s actually pretty clever. Especially for someone like me, who knows the kanji but doesn’t remember the specific on’yomi (Chinese reading) but knows the kun’yomi (Japanese reading). Either will bring up the right kanji. So yeah, smart phones are useful for something.

Wish they had had that back in in 1984 when I was in Japan and trying to learn even the basics. Would have been very helpful.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:54:36am

re: #401 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The infamous 11 foot 8 bridge, aka “the can opener” or “the Gregson guillotine” is in Durham NC and has its own wikipedia page:
Norfolk Southern-Gregson Street Overpass

Interesting article, although it’s now the 12 foot 4 inch bridge. What I found interesting is the railroad, the North Carolina Railroad Company, is a socialised corporation wholly owned by the state of North Carolina. They own no rolling stock, but lease the tracks to other railroad companies.

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IngisKahn  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:54:49am

re: #389 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Use the picture icon.

The Mandarin word for cat is māo. Also the name of one of our cats, though we tend to call him Maomao.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:55:42am

Odds on Trump issuing an EO to try and make College Football happen?

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mmmirele  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:56:13am

Speaking of handwriting, I’m reading a book about a woman from rural Japan, born 1804, died 1852. She was born into a priest’s family and she did learn to read and write because it was expected she would marry a priest or village headman. She did marry a priest at age 12. She was divorced from him at age 27, then married off twice more, divorced both times, before she had enough and ran off to Edo (later Tokyo) to make her way.

The author of “Stranger in the Shogun’s City,” Amy Stanley, relates how difficult it was to go through the primary sources, which were records kept by her priest relatives, which included letters sent by her. Japanese has changed substantially since 1945; the government standardized and dropped some hiragana and katakana (syllabary alphabet) and completely took the pruning shears to then-available kanji. Basically, there are a standard 2,136 you’re supposed to learn to be literate. Thousands more were used before 1945. These old ones can be used in literature but not in newspapers, magazines, government documents, etc. Stanley said she kept pictures on her smart phone of these very old documents and would ask people to help her with really difficult kanji if she ran into someone who could help.

Can you imagine if we had an agency which decided what was appropriate vocabulary for a newspaper? And had a book detailing same? Peopje would come unglued.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:56:14am

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

Odds on Trump issuing an EO to try and make College Football happen?

I was wondering how the tangerine wankmaggot would take that news. I assumed it would be poorly.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:00:12pm

re: #386 NetworkKed

Cursive was useful for as long as I needed to write more than one sentence in a row with a pen.

…there might have been a few essay questions on tests in college that worked like that - the one international relations course comes to mind. But the real work was always in a word processor, and realistically as a life skill the whole handwriting track (1st-3rd grade) did nothing but make me permanently resent schoolwork.

I loved penmanship lessons. They inspired my love and hobby for calligraphy.

When I was thirteen, my mother bought for my birthday an expensive set of Speedball calligraphy pens and nibs for me, though for months she questioned me whether I really wanted that. (Yes.)

She gave my her very expensive drafting table in 1984 when she went off to be a Renaissance Festival performer across the nation. My ex-wife has that now, because she refuses to follow the divorce decree which awarded that table to me. (My wife bought me a new one for me several years ago so I could get back to my calligraphy hobby.)

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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:01:36pm

Regarding the video up top - for some reason I love that the pickup is taped onto the guitar (or at least really looks that way.)
Also, that kid appears to have the same number of hands and fingers as I, and yet…

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:02:08pm

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

Odds on Trump issuing an EO to try and make College Football happen?

Don’t worry that’s coming!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:02:41pm

re: #292 The Pie Overlord!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:03:15pm

re: #292 The Pie Overlord!

Because grifting off far-right conservatives is a lucrative business model (until the put you up against a wall because you don’t satisfy their racist agenda).

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:05:05pm

Look for Trump to start making noises about cutting federal funds to colleges that don’t participate in fall sports in the coming days.

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mmmirele  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:07:05pm

re: #403 Barefoot Grin

As much as I think learning kanji is a pain in the ass, the number of homonyms for some morae (syllables are the English equivalent) are so incredible that it’s just *necessary*.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:08:48pm
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Belafon  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:08:49pm

re: #413 mmmirele

Can you imagine if we had an agency which decided what was appropriate vocabulary for a newspaper? And had a book detailing same? Peopje would come unglued.

We have a book detailing that, and yet Republicans think that living 1984 would be a great idea.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:09:37pm

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

unless it is part of a bigger, more sinister plan…

That plan being the GOP has been trying to kill the Post Office starting in the Nixon Administration.

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Targetpractice  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:10:08pm

re: #423 Belafon

We have a book detailing that, and yet Republicans think that living 1984 would be a great idea.

That’s the corporatist wing of the party’s goal, the evangelical wing wants The Handmaid’s Tale.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:48:16pm

re: #421 mmmirele

As much as I think learning kanji is a pain in the ass, the number of homonyms for some morae (syllables are the English equivalent) are so incredible that it’s just *necessary*.

Yes, it is both at once clarifying and not.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 10, 2020 • 12:49:20pm

re: #378 Barefoot Grin

We had to have mastery over one East Asian language, two years of another, and a “reading French” certification (a lot of Sinology was done in French early on, but it’s an antiquated idea and has not been a part of my work at all).

My brother did German in college since there was, and is still, a lot of geology papers written in it.

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retired cynic  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:41:35pm

re: #286 ericblair

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That’s what Trump’s signature is: Russian Cursive!

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retired cynic  Aug 10, 2020 • 1:43:01pm

re: #296 🌹UOJB!

You saw Benjy auditioning for The Gong Show and he failed.

I actually have a good friend who won the Gong Show, and is still performing four decades later!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 10, 2020 • 3:11:17pm

re: #390 mmmirele

Especially for someone like me, who knows the kanji but doesn’t remember the specific on’yomi (Chinese reading) but knows the kun’yomi (Japanese reading). Either will bring up the right kanji. So yeah, smart phones are useful for something.

From my limited experiences, I find that the Microsoft Translator smartphone app works a hell of a lot better than Google’s. I bought some masks off of Amazon in the early stages of the ‘rona, and Microsoft’s Translator was way better.

It’s sad that Microsoft is re-trenching their voice assistant Cortana - it will no longer be available on smartphones and smart devices in the next 6 months.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 10, 2020 • 6:56:17pm

re: #374 lawhawk

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Yes


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