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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 10, 2020 • 11:58:29pm

FT

it’s almost 3 am local time. I should be sleeping.

I guess I also need to F covid.

FC
FT
FP

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Aug 11, 2020 • 12:12:13am

And before I pop off to bed…

GOTV!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 11, 2020 • 12:48:28am

So, how much would you pay for 50 feet of beach-front property along LaJolla Shores?

How about $27M?

zillow.com

It’s one of those insanely priced new-builds on a tiny city lot.

You and I may be struggling in Trump’s America, but the wildly rich are doing fine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2020 • 12:50:50am

One is either rich or lazy…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 11, 2020 • 12:51:22am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 11, 2020 • 12:56:50am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 11, 2020 • 1:08:35am

1995 is only 25 years ago, but so many of these TV shows I don’t remember. OTOH, I didn’t have a TV during most of that decade so I never watched TV and thus probably never saw them to begin with. The new networks (UPN and WB) look like they tried initially before they devolved into nothingness:

42 NEW SHOWS OF FALL TV 1995

..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2020 • 1:10:53am

re: #7 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

1995 is only 25 years ago, but so many of these TV shows I don’t remember. OTOH, I didn’t have a TV during most of that decade so I never watched TV and thus probably never saw them to begin with. The new networks (UPN and WB) look like they tried initially before they devolved into nothingness:

I was living in Germany, so I watched very little TV at all. Still don’t, especially since streaming originals became possible. I only started watching the Star Trek spin-offs around 2016

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2020 • 1:15:19am

re: #7 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

1995 is only 25 years ago, but so many of these TV shows I don’t remember. OTOH, I didn’t have a TV during most of that decade so I never watched TV and thus probably never saw them to begin with. The new networks (UPN and WB) look like they tried initially before they devolved into nothingness:

[Embedded content]

..

This forces me to remember the shows I actually cared about while they were on the air…

Julia
Mash
Rockford Files
Logan’s Run
Magnum PI (only the original. That current sh*t needs a fucking nuke missle.)
Hill Street Blues
Various Star Treks

Ain’t been much of late.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 11, 2020 • 1:18:40am

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

IIRC, in 1995 I was attempting a career move so I was traveling quite a bit to and from DC. It’s all a blur now.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 11, 2020 • 1:20:38am

My dad and I watched Julia together. It was a simpler time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2020 • 1:23:11am

re: #10 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

IIRC, in 1995 I was attempting a career move so I was traveling quite a bit to and from DC. It’s all a blur now.

German TV in the 90’s was abysmal; only the worst, most common-denominator US shows made it (and then dubbed) so I all but stopped watching TV.

One highlight was seeing The Producers on German TV (with the songs all in the original)

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2020 • 1:27:28am

re: #11 Dread Pirate Ron

My dad and I watched Julia together. It was a simpler time.

It was am amazing show for the time. Looked down on by many today but I saw an independent minority woman for the first time there - even before Nyota Uhura because I didn’t know Star Trek at that time - so this was probably the first time I saw a black woman on the TV in our Midwestern Flyover land. What a show…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2020 • 1:48:17am

re: #11 Dread Pirate Ron

My dad and I watched Julia together. It was a simpler time.

Jeez, I recall watching that, too.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 1:53:26am

re: #9 William Lewis

My dad was a big fan of The Rockford Files. I was pretty young when that originally aired, but I became a fan of the show as I got older. Same with Columbo and McMillan & Wife. I definitely remember Magnum, P.I. when that originally ran and used to watch it regularly.

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2020 • 2:00:02am

re: #15 Dr Lizardo

My dad was a big fan of The Rockford Files. I was pretty young when that originally aired, but I became a fan of the show as I got older. Same with Columbo and McMillan & Wife. I definitely remember Magnum, P.I. when that originally ran and used to watch it regularly.

I liked McMillan and Columbo but I learned very soon that I had to wait till 15 minutes into the show before I started watching a Columbo episode. I loved watching him figure it out but ONLY if I didn’t know it to start. It was usually easy to figure out but I just couldn’t watch that first bit that showed the solution.

McMillan and Wife was much better than a lot want to give it credit for now a days.

But Jim Rockford remains the “PI” in my mind, even above the classics of noir.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 2:11:18am

re: #16 William Lewis

I liked McMillan and Columbo but I learned very soon that I had to wait till 15 minutes into the show before I started watching a Columbo episode. I loved watching him figure it out but ONLY if I didn’t know it to start. It was usually easy to figure out but I just couldn’t watch that first bit that showed the solution.

McMillan and Wife was much better than a lot want to give it credit for now a days.

But Jim Rockford remains the “PI” in my mind, even above the classics of noir.

Columbo was - and still is - popular with Czech audiences and has a strong following here. The Rockford Files is pretty much unknown here, but several of my students, past and present, have come to appreciate it greatly. I have the entire series in my collection, and I’ll lend it out and let them discover the magic.

Those who’ve seen it regard it as an almost perfectly well-written blend of humor and action, with the late James Garner as a fantastic actor. For many of them, it’s also something of a time capsule, a peek into 1970s America, when Czech Republic was still sealed off behind the Iron Curtain. One of the greatest prime-time US television series ever.

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2020 • 2:18:09am

re: #17 Dr Lizardo

Agreed on every point. Jim, with his typewriter made “Biz Cards” to fit every need was a perfect encapsulation of every good thing in the image of America then. Freedom without the stupidity of the FreeDUMB sector of today.

I’m reminded, suddenly, of the last episode of the original Hawaii-5-0. The ultimate recurring bad guy, Wo Fat, is finally jailed. As the camera looks in at him in his cell, he smiles, pulls out a tiny file and you know he’ll be back out causing trouble again. Near perfect TV storytelling.

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2020 • 2:33:04am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 11, 2020 • 2:37:48am

re: #1 I Would Prefer Not To

FT

it’s almost 3 am local time. I should be sleeping.

I guess I also need to F covid.

FC
FT
FP

0335 Mythical Daylight Time here. The ham and beans, they be a simmering for today’s lunch*. Corn bread muffins into the oven around 0500 or so. Salad fixing already at work.

*Once done, they will go into a slow cooker to keep them hot until it’s time to eat.

And yes, FT, FP, FMM and FCOVID19

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 2:46:07am

If any Lizards ever make it here to Ostrava, here’s a brief guide to some places to grab a cup of coffee - or a beer.

bars with a concept || ostrava

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2020 • 2:49:20am

re: #9 William Lewis

This forces me to remember the shows I actually cared about while they were on the air…

Julia
Mash
Rockford Files
Logan’s Run
Magnum PI (only the original. That current sh*t needs a fucking nuke missle.)
Hill Street Blues
Various Star Treks

Ain’t been much of late.

barney Miller
the Muppets
m python

masterpiece theater:
-to serve them all my days
-i, Claudius
-a town like alice
-danger uxb
on and on

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 11, 2020 • 2:57:00am

re: #22 dangerman

-i, Claudius

Remember watching that. PBS was the only broadcast channel on which one could see boobs.

Then again, we only had NBC, PBS, ABC and CBS, and the latter two channels sometimes had poor reception. We had a local NBC station, and the university PBS station had a repeater in our town.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 11, 2020 • 2:59:44am

re: #15 Dr Lizardo

My dad was a big fan of The Rockford Files. I was pretty young when that originally aired, but I became a fan of the show as I got older. Same with Columbo and McMillan & Wife. I definitely remember Magnum, P.I. when that originally ran and used to watch it regularly.

My Dad called him Rockfish for some weird reason.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2020 • 3:06:51am

re: #23 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Remember watching that. PBS was the only broadcast channel on which one could see boobs.

Then again, we only had NBC, PBS, ABC and CBS, and the latter two channels sometimes had poor reception. We had a local NBC station, and the university PBS station had a repeater in our town.

and we had no idea when they were coming!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 3:44:27am

re: #7 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

1995 is only 25 years ago, but so many of these TV shows I don’t remember. OTOH, I didn’t have a TV during most of that decade so I never watched TV and thus probably never saw them to begin with. The new networks (UPN and WB) look like they tried initially before they devolved into nothingness:.

That was interesting. I didn’t watch much TV back then either but only two shows struck me as hits (JAG and Drew Carey and i think Moesha), and I’d heard of Pinky and the Brain. Of those, I’ve seen one episode of JAG (recently) and that’s it.

The majority of stars I’ve also never heard of but there were a couple of (now) big names (I didn’t know Stanley Tucci had done TV), and a couple of stars whose names popped up a couple of times.

The very first one, Nowhere Man, looked interesting and immediately reminded me of La Femme Nikita (another show I’ve recently learned about and watched, the original, not the one with Maggie Q), and sure enough, it was by Joel Surnow who did the original LFN. I might have watched that one, back in the day. The rest, not so much.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 3:46:07am

re: #24 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

My Dad called him Rockfish for some weird reason.

Was….was your dad Issac Hayes? 😮

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:08:29am

Well fuck. After 102 days without community transmission, four Covid cases in a South Auckland family. Jacinda and Ashley (Director General of Health) broadcast a press conference at 9:15pm.

Auckland goes back to level 3 lockdown for 72 hours while the source is identified. Essential services only to open (supermarkets, pharmacies, has stations), schools open only for children of essential workers, no travel in or out of Auckland unless you are going home or coming home.

Rest of the country into level 2 lockdown for the same period. Gatherings restricted, masks and distancing return.

Friday afternoon or evening we should learn the next move.

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John Hughes  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:09:05am

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

German TV in the 90’s was abysmal; only the worst, most common-denominator US shows made it (and then dubbed) so I all but stopped watching TV.

French TV in the 90’s was so bad we watched Inspector Derrick.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:11:13am

Love love loved The Rockford Files, but let’s not forget Mannix, which was pretty darned good.

And I have to throw in Hart to Hart cuz I liked that one, too.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:13:40am

re: #28 Grunthos the Flatulent

Well fuck. After 102 days without community transmission, four Covid cases in a South Auckland family. Jacinda and Ashley (Director General of Health) broadcast a press conference at 9:15pm.

Auckland goes back to level 3 lockdown for 72 hours while the source is identified. Essential services only to open (supermarkets, pharmacies, has stations), schools open only for children of essential workers, no travel in or out of Auckland unless you are going home or coming home.

Rest of the country into level 2 lockdown for the same period. Gatherings restricted, masks and distancing return.

Friday afternoon or evening we should learn the next move.

I’m sorry. Thankfully, you have a fantastic government dealing with it.

The school thing is brilliant. That never crossed my mind at all.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:17:34am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:20:12am

re: #28 Grunthos the Flatulent

To further how much I love your PM, when this pandemic hit, she was the one I learned the most from. I watched her talk to your country; open, honest and forthright. Justin did a decent job, but Jacinda was something else, far and away the best globally.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:28:53am
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ericblair  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:34:52am

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

In Belarus, Lukashenko, “Europe’s last dictator”, has ruled for 26 years. Protestors are being violently put down by police. 1,000s locked out of voting. His challenger, Tsikhanouskaya is in hiding. Her CM arrested on election eve & 8 other campaign staff.

Tsikhanouskaya was in government custody yesterday, now in Lithuania with her kids. The government made her do a hostage video as a condition of release, saying that she accepts the official complete bullshit results of the election. This seems to have convinced absolutely nobody in Belarus, and general strikes are now on. Lukashenko is also noticeably ill with COVID, so that too.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:38:47am
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:43:01am

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

Was….was your dad Issac Hayes? 😮

Nope.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:45:37am

A school board when run by Republicans, Union Public School District in Tulsa.

Parents Calling For Union BOE Member To Step Down (News on 6)

Since this E-mail, the Union School Board has voted to return to in-person schooling.

TULSA, Okla. - Some Union Public Schools parents are calling for board of education member Jeff Bennett to step down after he sent a controversial email to a parent in response to concerns about school starting this month. ​

The press is still failing. Alternatives for the word “controversial” up there: Racist. Illegible. Full of spelling and grammar errors.

This is a school board on conservatism.

“If you’ve seen the email, it is perplexing,” UPS parent Michelle Palmer said. “It’s just surprising.”

Michelle Palmer and her husband, Adam Palmer, have three children that attend Union Public Schools. All they wanted to do was voice their concerns to the board before Monday’s meeting at the Union Education Service Center.

The Palmers now have more concerns about their children’s safety.

You should have concerns: about their safety, about their education, &c.

The article contains the parents’ original contact E-mail requesting an extension of distance learning for six more weeks, followed by the board member’s racist, anti-science, barely-intelligible response. The board member confirmed he wrote the E-mail.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:48:57am

re: #37 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Nope.

Should your dad have been Issac Hayes?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:53:24am

re: #34 Patricia Kayden

Looks like Mrs. Tsikhanouskaya (his opponent in Sunday’s “election”) is now in Lithuania.

lrt.lt

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:54:15am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A school board when run by Republicans, Union Public School District in Tulsa.

Parents Calling For Union BOE Member To Step Down (News on 6)

Since this E-mail, the Union School Board has voted to return to in-person schooling.

The press is still failing. Alternatives for the word “controversial” up there: Racist. Illegible. Full of spelling and grammar errors.

This is a school board on conservatism.

You should have concerns: about their safety, about their education, &c.

The article contains the parents’ original contact E-mail requesting an extension of distance learning for six more weeks, followed by the board member’s racist, anti-science, barely-intelligible response. The board member confirmed he wrote the E-mail.

Jesus f’in Christ. This letter…

Hello Adam;

Thanks for your opinion.

I’m not convinced anyone, certainly not the experts, most defiantly not me know much about covid. We shut down schools because it is what we had to do in order to defeat the deadly Chinese virus, just 21 days if we shut everything down, more than 2 months later states started to reopen. Then the 2nd wave and cases with numbers never seen before, well actually the group (20 to 50 year olds) that were not aloud in hospitals and clinics because they were not at risk were not being tested well now they are. Tests were not available then Kodak gets resurrected with a $500 million contract to provide chemicals to make tests now we are testing at a rate of nearly a million a day, nation wide. Reporting is faulty as many states are/were counting a positive covid test the same as a positive antibody test, which are the opposite. One sais you have it one sais you have antibodies which help your body fight it off. The press want you to be in tune with the number of cases as bad news sells and those numbers are going up but death rate is going down.

I certainly appreciate the trust you place in myself and the board but there is no right decision, certainly not for everyone…

Jeff

This fucking guy is on the BOE? JFC.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2020 • 4:57:43am

re: #41 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Jesus f’in Christ. This letter…

This fucking guy is on the BOE? JFC.

Donald Trump: I love the poorly educated.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:00:46am

This thread is short and hysterical…

As are some of the responses…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:02:36am

I hate to say this but Shark Week has jumped the shark.

I’m very sad.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:03:32am

Beirut explosion: Where else is ammonium nitrate being stored? (BBC)

In the wake of the blast in Beirut, countries around the world are investigating places where companies may have illegally squirrelled away ammonium nitrate.

It’s been found in an airport air cargo area in Baghdad, in warehouses in India seized by customs for improper documents and sold off to unknown individuals, in Australia 3km from a city centre, and in several cities in the United Kingdom.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:09:14am

A conundrum. I’m pro-vaccine but is have a hard time considering anything that trump might have anything to do with and I trust Russia just as much.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:12:35am

Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use (BBC)

Phalanx hits the Russian market.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said a locally developed vaccine for Covid-19 has been given regulatory approval after less than two months of testing on humans.

Mr Putin said the vaccine had passed all the required checks, adding that his daughter had already been given it.

Officials have said they have plans to start a mass vaccination in October.

Experts have raised concerns about the speed of Russia’s work, suggesting that researchers might be cutting corners.

Amid fears that safety could have been compromised, the World Health Organization (WHO) urged Russia last week to follow international guidelines for producing a vaccine against Covid-19.

The Russian vaccine is not among the WHO’s list of six vaccines that have reached phase three clinical trials, which involve more widespread testing in humans.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:14:16am

re: #46 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A conundrum. I’m pro-vaccine but is have a hard time considering anything that trump might have anything to do with and I trust Russia just as much.

Possibly to do with the announcement Putin made about a vaccine candidate up there from the BBC?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:15:06am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Possibly to do with the announcement Putin made about a vaccine candidate up there from the BBC?

Likely.

Gonna be interesting to see how the trump anti-vax folks are going to cope with this.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:15:40am

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use (BBC)

Phalanx hits the Russian market.

(more)

Exclusive video of Russia….in about four or five weeks.

Dawn Of The Dead (2004) - Intro

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:17:13am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Unfortunately because the idiot POTUS call it the “Chinese virus”, he opens the floodgates for racist Americans to do the same.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:19:22am

re: #49 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Likely.

Gonna be interesting to see how the trump anti-vax folks are going to cope with this.

Conservatives will follow the prelate of their faith. If he tells them to get a vaccine, they will suddenly forget all their anti-vax positions.

Conservatism has always been like this, all the way back to Edmund Burke. Its goals and aims have never changed (power, not democracy).

[deleted, wrong video]

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:21:16am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:24:19am

Wrong video up there. The correct one is this. (12:15)

Endnote 3: The Origins of Conservatism

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:29:09am

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Should your dad have been Issac Hayes?

It probably wouldn’t have hurt.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:33:30am

I’m feeling a nom nom nom moment coming on.

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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:40:58am

re: #56 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There is a history: (from a year ago)

The Victoria’s Secret billionaire Leslie Wexner says the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein “misappropriated vast sums of money” from Wexner’s fortune while serving as his financial adviser.

In a letter to members of his namesake Wexner Foundation, seen by The Wall Street Journal, the CEO and founder of L Brands, the parent company to Victoria’s Secret, said that Epstein had “misappropriated vast sums of money from me and my family.”

“This was, frankly, a tremendous shock, even though it clearly pales in comparison to the unthinkable allegations against him now,” Wexner continued in the letter.
Epstein was arrested last month and charged with sex trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking over allegations involving girls as young as 14. He has pleaded not guilty. If convicted, he faces up to 45 years in prison.

It is unclear how much money is believed to have been mismanaged. According to The Journal, tax records indicate that Epstein made a $46 million contribution to a Wexner charitable fund in January 2008. In his letter, Wexner said this amount represented a “portion” of the sum he says Epstein mishandled, according to CNBC.

He added that “every dollar” of that money originally belonged to the Wexner family. A representative for Wexner did not comment to The Journal on whether the “misappropriation” was reported to authorities.

businessinsider.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:42:48am

Enough for him to lose? Last I saw he was up over Amy by almost double digits. 😢

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:43:50am

re: #57 Shropshire Slasher

There is a history: (from a year ago)

businessinsider.com

Wexler have gave Epstein a $70 million dollar Manhattan mansion.

*Fixed

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:44:56am

re: #59 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Wexler have GAVE Epstein a $70 million dollar Manhattan mansion.

Fucking autocorrect.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:45:22am

re: #58 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Mitch McConnell caught in the middle of Kentucky’s economic crisis - The Washington Post

remember, these are voters who think that letting their economy rot is “owning the liberals”

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ericblair  Aug 11, 2020 • 5:51:00am

If I were an evil election-fixing turd, I would have waited until mid-October to pull shit like this. Doing it now makes a lot of GOP demographics (along with all the other people the GOP doesn’t care about) mad as hell early enough to do something about it. I’m guessing the toddler wanted his ice cream NOW NOW NOW.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:00:43am

Some positive news via electoral-vote.com

Georgetown University hired two pollsters to survey the political landscape together. One is Celinda Lake, a widely respected Democratic pollster. The other is Ed Goeas, a widely respected Republican pollster. By teaming up two pros from opposite ends of the spectrum, they got a poll that is probably as honest as one can get.

The poll found Joe Biden ahead of Donald Trump 53% to 40% among all likely voters, with only 7% undecided. Even if all the undecideds went for Trump, he would still lose badly. One subgroup is especially important. In the last poll (in Oct. 2019), white middle-class voters preferred Trump to a generic Democrat by 9 points. Now Biden leads Trump by 8 points. That’s a 17-point swing away from Trump by a key demographic

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jeffreyw  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:07:11am

Good morning!

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:07:24am

Heres another observation of theirs:

In other words, in the red districts, the Republicans can tell any lie they want and it could work because the voters don’t have any real understanding of politics, economics, and the world outside their little towns (except what Fox News and OANN tell them). In contrast, suburban voters get their information from multiple sources and have a much better view of what the world is really like. Telling them outright lies will only anger them big-time

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:12:19am

re: #63 dangerman

Some positive news via electoral-vote.com

It’s 100% infuriating that anyone could think trump is good at anything (but marketing himself).

We’re to fucking stupid to survive.

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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:12:37am

Every year I get caught in the same thing, and I don’t remember how it happened last year. I need to re-up my subscription to LGF, but don’t have a paypal account. (I started a paypal account for a nonprofit, and now paypal sends anything I pay with it to the nonprofit. Well, that’s not good!) The subscribe button above shows credit card images, but a click goes straight to paypal, and no option to pay by card. Don’t want to get involved with square.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:19:21am

re: #46 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A conundrum. I’m pro-vaccine but is have a hard time considering anything that trump might have anything to do with and I trust Russia just as much.

[Embedded content]

I’m pro-agressive but orderly development and I won’t allow any of that stuff Trump buys from Putin near me or my family.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:21:04am

re: #23 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Remember watching that. PBS was the only broadcast channel on which one could see boobs.

Then again, we only had NBC, PBS, ABC and CBS, and the latter two channels sometimes had poor reception. We had a local NBC station, and the university PBS station had a repeater in our town.

Oh I go all the way back when Pittsburgh only has 2 TV Stations—WQED which was the public station showing instructional TV to schools and WDTV which was the linchpin of the DuMont Network…

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:22:44am

re: #67 retired cynic

I just recommended your comment. Charles will see it when he rises & shines.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:23:00am

re: #68 Belafon

I’m pro-agressive but orderly development and I won’t allow any of that stuff Trump buys from Putin near me or my family.

Didn’t we buy a bunch of ventilators from Russia that were all unusable? (Answer after a quick Google search: yes; and not just us, Italy got a whole convoy of medical equipment that was also bogus, blamed Russian gov’t of PR stunt.)

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:31:55am
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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:32:18am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:34:32am

re: #71 Barefoot Grin

Didn’t we buy a bunch of ventilators from Russia that were all unusable? (Answer after a quick Google search: yes; and not just us, Italy got a whole convoy of medical equipment that was also bogus, blamed Russian gov’t of PR stunt.)

Color me skeptical about this vaccine. For all anyone knows, it could well be a placebo, like the Phalanx vaccine in “World War Z”.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:34:34am
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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:35:16am

re: #70 HRH Stanley Sea

I just recommended your comment. Charles will see it when he rises & shines.

Thank you so much!

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BeachDem  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:36:00am

re: #67 retired cynic

Every year I get caught in the same thing, and I don’t remember how it happened last year. I need to re-up my subscription to LGF, but don’t have a paypal account. (I started a paypal account for a nonprofit, and now paypal sends anything I pay with it to the nonprofit. Well, that’s not good!) The subscribe button above shows credit card images, but a click goes straight to paypal, and no option to pay by card. Don’t want to get involved with square.

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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:37:03am

re: #77 BeachDem

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:37:51am

👀

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:39:31am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:39:39am

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

Color me skeptical about this vaccine. For all anyone knows, it could well be a placebo, like the Phalanx vaccine in “World War Z”.

Not to mention… Have we even seen any infection statistics from Russia?

I’d rather take my chances on the virus than inject anything from Russia.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:39:57am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:42:36am

re: #79 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

👀

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LOL I was eating homemade salsa, prepared by my dad, when I was four years old - and it was plenty spicy, I can tell you that. I was eating fried eggs with Tabasco sauce by the time I was six, thanks to my dad’s friend Al. I’ve been eating spicy foods for most of my life.

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BeachDem  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:42:42am

re: #78 retired cynic

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:44:11am

re: #83 Dr Lizardo

LOL I was eating homemade salsa, prepared by my dad, when I was four years old - and it was plenty spicy, I can tell you that. I was eating fried eggs with Tabasco sauce by the time I was six, thanks to my dad’s friend Al. I’ve been eating spicy foods for most of my life.

Not to mention that “spicy” doesn’t mean hot.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:45:44am

re: #81 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not to mention… Have we even seen any infection statistics from Russia?

I’d rather take my chances on the virus than inject anything from Russia.

One thing I’ve noticed, and it’s anecdotal, is that the Russians daily new infections rate always seem to be close to, but invariably under, 6,000 per day. Almost like someone gave instructions along the line of, “No matter what you do, make damned sure it’s under 6,000 a day” or something.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:48:18am
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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:48:44am
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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:49:27am

re: #87 dangerman

The 53% of us that are insulted can go sit down.

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BeachDem  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:50:02am

re: #78 retired cynic

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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:50:55am

re: #84 BeachDem

Aha! Yes, that’s how I did it last year: through the GoFundMe. Charles, my yearly subscription was entered there today. Thank you so much for this great community of peeps.

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b.d. (Boring Competence 2020!)  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:51:17am

re: #87 dangerman

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OLDER WHITE MEN ARE THE MOST DISCRIMINATED AGAINST, REPRESSED AND UNDERREPRESENTED PEOPLE ON THE PLANET!!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:51:39am

re: #87 dangerman

Yeah, hey Donnie, why don’t you just take a fucking seat, OK?

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:53:18am
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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:55:28am

re: #94 Belafon

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That same condition has a tendency to occur with steroid users. Seen lots of disability claims I’ve worked documenting Myocarditis along with other side effects of steroids.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:56:25am

And Gym chimes in:

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:56:38am

re: #94 Belafon

Yeah, that’s a real concern too. After all, these are young men, athletes, in prime physical condition - and COVID-19 is causing myocarditis in them, WTF is gonna happen to people who can’t even be remotely described as young athletes in prime physical condition?

Meanwhile, VP Biblethumper is Tweeting that college sports are, somehow, absolutely vital to the survival of the American Republic or some such twaddle.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:57:14am

re: #80 Belafon

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Consider this situation with any vaccine sped through and approved without proof and adequate testing and the government says take it, it’s safe:

- it flat out just fails as a vaccine…doesn’t work
- serious side effects not immediately apparent ie thalidomide
- outright kills a lot of people

Then another drug comes out, better tested and controlled

You think there’s antivaxxers now? What happens when they have justification?

We’ll be dying from this thing for years.

Effin tuesdays

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 6:57:53am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:00:15am
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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:00:26am

re: #96 Belafon

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:00:37am

re: #62 ericblair

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If I were an evil election-fixing turd, I would have waited until mid-October to pull shit like this. Doing it now makes a lot of GOP demographics (along with all the other people the GOP doesn’t care about) mad as hell early enough to do something about it. I’m guessing the toddler wanted his ice cream NOW NOW NOW.

He’s always about instant gratification
He never plays the long game always to his detriment
He’s never learned
and everyone’s figured that out

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:02:00am

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

Color me skeptical about this vaccine. For all anyone knows, it could well be a placebo, like the Phalanx vaccine in “World War Z”.

It could be the cancer cure in Smith’s I am Legend.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:07:54am

Thread. With flair.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:09:31am

There are multiple examples of vaccines in trial stages that make subsequent infections by a virus more severe.

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:21:51am

re: #81 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not to mention… Have we even seen any infection statistics from Russia?

I’d rather take my chances on the virus than inject anything from Russia.

The ultimate kick in the head would be if Trump announced that the US was buying millions of doses of the vaccine from Russia…

And making vaccinations mandatory.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:27:30am

Jesusbot relatives post this on Facebook…

Guess this is the American Holy Trinity….
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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:30:16am

re: #104 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Thread. With flair.

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Doesn’t matter. Trump will pardon his fellow traitor.

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unproven innocence  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:30:27am

re: #80 Belafon

Related:
Russia to Vaccinate Medics for Coronavirus in August

The most at-risk groups will be invited to be vaccinated before the end of clinical trials, Health Minister Mikhail Murashko said.

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John Hughes  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:30:37am

re: #63 dangerman

Georgetown University hired two pollsters to survey the political landscape together. One is Celinda Lake, a widely respected Democratic pollster. The other is Ed Goeas, a widely respected Republican pollster. By teaming up two pros from opposite ends of the spectrum, they got a poll that is probably as honest as one can get

What does that even mean? How can you be a “widely respected [ fill in the party ] pollster”?

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:32:21am

re: #107 🌹UOJB!

Jesusbot relatives post this on Facebook…

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Sorry, Antie, but Jesus turned his back on the US the moment you agreed to lock up kids in cages.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:34:22am

re: #107 🌹UOJB!

Jesusbot relatives post this on Facebook…

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Here’s a better picture of John Wayne

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John Hughes  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:34:38am

re: #79 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The official favorite food of English people is Chicken Tikka Marsala.

Doesn’t stop (some of them) being racist though.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:38:00am

re: #69 🌹UOJB!

Oh I go all the way back when Pittsburgh only has 2 TV Stations—WQED which was the public station showing instructional TV to schools and WDTV which was the linchpin of the DuMont Network…

My step-father’s family in McKee’s Rocks watched Dumont on a coin-operated TV. You put in a quarter to watch a half-hour, and at the end of the month the credit company came by and emptied the box.

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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:40:57am

Trump’s a fucking lunatic, part (infinity)

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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:47:55am
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John Hughes  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:51:05am

re: #105 BlueSpotinAL

There are multiple examples of vaccines in trial stages that make subsequent infections by a virus more severe.

Notably one of the test vaccines for SARS.

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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:52:46am

re: #117 John Hughes

I wondered what had stopped that, besides the disease itself fading.

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John Hughes  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:55:10am

re: #118 retired cynic

Test, trace and isolate. Like what stopped many other epidemics.

It must be admitted that it’s hard doing that with COVID-19 because of the high rate of “asymptomatic” cases, but some countries didn’t even try…

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:57:24am

re: #64 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:58:37am

re: #3 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So, how much would you pay for 50 feet of beach-front property along LaJolla Shores?

How about $27M?

zillow.com

It’s one of those insanely priced new-builds on a tiny city lot.

You and I may be struggling in Trump’s America, but the wildly rich are doing fine.

Hell, no. I’d take that money and buy a decent sized piece of land in Colorado and put a big ass house on it…WITH plenty of funds left over.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 11, 2020 • 7:59:13am
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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:02:11am

re: #122 The Pie Overlord!

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Trump’s idea of speaking Chinese is going on Postmates to order from Panda Express.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:04:02am

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Coronavirus: Putin says vaccine has been approved for use (BBC)

Phalanx hits the Russian market.

(more)

Oh, great. Now Trump is going to buy a shit ton of doses from Vlad and try to push a Russian vaccine on all of us.

That’s one I’m not very keen to line up for.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:04:25am

re: #119 John Hughes

Test, trace and isolate. Like what stopped many other epidemics.

It must be admitted that it’s hard doing that with COVID-19 because of the high rate of “asymptomatic” cases, but some countries didn’t even try…

Going to be fun trying to test, trace and isolate 250,000 wannabe Hell’s Angels from Sturgis.

We’re stupid, and we’re going to die.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:06:36am
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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:06:58am
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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:08:03am

re: #126 The Pie Overlord!

Jeezus

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:10:13am

re: #126 The Pie Overlord!

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Let me guess…Trump asked that asshole Ron Johnson…

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:14:22am

re: #126 The Pie Overlord!

At least he was smart enough to be re-elected.

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Jay C  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:23:26am

re: #130 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

At least he was smart enough to be re-elected.

Six times.

I’m sure that Trump would probably chalk that up to the people of Delaware being dummies as well: as I guess they figure those were three EVs they weren’t going to get anyway…

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:24:12am

re: #129 🌹UOJB!

Let me guess…Trump asked that asshole Ron Johnson…

The “highly respected senator” was crying, big tears dripping down his face as he sobbed “Sir! Sir!”

Gotta be Lindsey Graham.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:29:19am
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jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:42:12am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:43:03am

re: #133 jaunte

That really is the sticking point. The fucker PLED GUILTY. He admitted he did it. You’d have to have a SERIOUSLY legit land legally sound reason for dismissing a case given the plea and I highly doubt the DOJ or Flynns lawyers can come up with one that will satisfy a judge.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:44:58am

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

“We can’t tell you our secret confidential argument in favor of Trump being a king.”

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:47:47am
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lawhawk  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:48:28am

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

That really is the sticking point. The fucker PLED GUILTY. He admitted he did it. You’d have to have a SERIOUSLY legit land legally sound reason for dismissing a case given the plea and I highly doubt the DOJ or Flynns lawyers can come up with one that will satisfy a judge.

Not one that is legal.

Conspiracy to cover up felony conduct.

Their argument would be that Flynn was coerced into a plea deal that was accepted by him and the DOJ where all players were Trump’s own people. And yet once Barr comes in, everything is suspect. The issue isn’t Flynn or the plea deal. It’s Barr subverting the rule of law to protect Trump by any means necessary.

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CarolJ  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:53:12am

re: #122 The Pie Overlord!

Learning Chinese wouldn’t be so bad. There’s a billion people out there, and China has a deep and fascinating culture. Besides America has a way of taming that shit, not just militarily.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:55:11am
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ericblair  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:55:59am

You can guess what side the dirtbag left tankies are pulling for.

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stpaulbear  Aug 11, 2020 • 8:57:05am

re: #100 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

ACLU
@ACLU
It’s a Tuesday, which means it’s an Election Day! Voters in:
🗳️Connecticut
🗳️Georgia
🗳️Minnesota
🗳️Vermont
🗳️Wisconsin
Know your rights, and vote like they depend on it.

I early voted in person a couple weeks ago. I was the only voter in the room the whole time I was there. I don’t know if it’s so easy everywhere else in MN, but I am so glad that we’ve always had Secretaries of State that do not fuck around with access to and accuracy of the vote. I hope the best for everyone in Wisconsin and Georgia.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:01:04am

We moved my son on campus Sunday. This morning, his bike was stolen.

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Jay C  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:03:04am

re: #79 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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SRSLY: I can understand if their kid had had some sort of food allergy/sensitivity (which they should have warned the other parents about), or if junior had had some bad reaction - then they might have some cause for complaint. But as it is, their worries about coming across as xenophobic idiots - ? - unfortunately seem justified.

It immediately reminded me of one of the memorable lines from “The Big Bang Theory” - delivered by Kunal Nayyar, of course:

“We can always order out Indian food. Or, as we call it in India, ‘Food’”.

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mmmirele  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:03:33am

Today is an important day in hip hop history.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:03:49am
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Shropshire Slasher  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:05:32am

re: #143 Belafon

We moved my son on campus Sunday. This morning, his bike was stolen.

That’s too bad. They are a hot item right now.

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John Hughes  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:07:24am

re: #3 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So, how much would you pay for 50 feet of beach-front property along LaJolla Shores?

How about $27M?

Overpriced. For only 35 million EUR they could have bought 2,000 M^2 in the middle of Paris. With a bonus dead body in the basement.

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Jay C  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:07:51am

re: #141 ericblair

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You can guess what side the dirtbag left tankies are pulling for.

Really?
Is “leftists in the West [ ]express[ing] their love for Lukashenko” actually a thing?
What is it? Soviet nostalgia??

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:08:17am
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Teukka  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:09:13am

So, heard this nice piece of production/trailer music. Anyone know anything about the film in question?

JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH - Official Trailer Music | False Prophet - Pusher Music

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:14:27am

re: #151 Teukka

It’s the story of Fred Hampton, chairman of the Black Panther Party, who was assassinated in 1969 under the aegis of J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI.

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KGxvi  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:16:42am

re: #150 jaunte

I don’t typically criticize other lawyers, but that is some brazen fuckery there that I don’t think any judge is going to find compelling.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:17:38am

re: #153 KGxvi

I don’t typically criticize other lawyers, but that is some brazen fuckery there that I don’t think any judge is going to find compelling.

One can hope.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:18:25am

re: #9 William Lewis

This forces me to remember the shows I actually cared about while they were on the air…

Julia
Mash
Rockford Files
Logan’s Run
Magnum PI (only the original. That current sh*t needs a fucking nuke missle.)
Hill Street Blues
Various Star Treks

Ain’t been much of late.

I loved Julia and has a Barbie-like doll of Julia in her nurse’s uniform.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:24:27am

TV shows I cared about when they were on the air:

Twilight Zone
Alfred Hitchcock Presents/Alfred Hitchcock Hour
Boris Karloff’s Thriller
One Step Beyond
Irwin Allen’s shows—Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea, Lost In Space, Time Tunnel, Land Of The Giants
UFO
Space:1999
Star Trek TOS
Night Gallery
Journey To The Unknown
Rockford Files
Original Saturday Night Live
Fridays
Moonlighting
Star Trek The Next Generation

And that’s it. Really haven’t watched anything on network TV since the mid 90s.

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JC1  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:25:38am

re: #141 ericblair

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You can guess what side the dirtbag left tankies are pulling for.

Do leftists actually support that guy? Haven’t been keeping up, but why the hell would they be?

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:25:40am

Meanwhile, in Czech Republic, local police in Opava (not far from me) ended up with a most unusual passenger.

It’s an autoplay video, so just let it run. It’s funny.

tv.idnes.cz

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Teukka  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:25:51am

re: #152 Dr Lizardo

It’s the story of Fred Hampton, chairman of the Black Panther Party, who was assassinated in 1969 under the aegis of J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI.

That much I figured out, what I was wondering is whether the movie was any good :)

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mmmirele  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:26:27am

re: #97 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, that’s a real concern too. After all, these are young men, athletes, in prime physical condition - and COVID-19 is causing myocarditis in them, WTF is gonna happen to people who can’t even be remotely described as young athletes in prime physical condition?

Meanwhile, VP Biblethumper is Tweeting that college sports are, somehow, absolutely vital to the survival of the American Republic or some such twaddle.

I can tell you what happens…one of my friends had coronavirus early on (her carrier was a nurse who picked it up in Hong Kong and brought it to California). She had serious gut issues but it wasn’t until later that these were recognized as symptoms of COVID-19.

So here we are in August, almost six months since she got sick and she has tachycardia, BAD. Her heart starts racing when she stands up from a seated position. She’s been in for initial scans but the cardiologists can’t tell if it’s pericarditis or myocarditis. So more testing is called for. And of course there are the insurance issues, which are not helping. But yeah, heart trouble.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:27:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:28:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:29:17am

meanwhile in Kentucky

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:30:03am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:31:03am

re: #160 mmmirele

I can tell you what happens…one of my friends had coronavirus early on (her carrier was a nurse who picked it up in Hong Kong and brought it to California). She had serious gut issues but it wasn’t until later that these were recognized as symptoms of COVID-19.

So here we are in August, almost six months since she got sick and she has tachycardia, BAD. Her heart starts racing when she stands up from a seated position. She’s been in for initial scans but the cardiologists can’t tell if it’s pericarditis or myocarditis. So more testing is called for. And of course there are the insurance issues, which are not helping. But yeah, heart trouble.

There’s almost certainly going to be long-term health issues related to this. And I don’t just mean over the next 18 to 24 months. We could be looking at COVID-19 related health problems many years, maybe even decades, down the road - and that’s something we need to be ready for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:31:28am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:32:48am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Right. It’s a blank check for badly run CONSERVATIVE states.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:35:09am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

DOL’s chief solicitor, Trump appointee Kate O’Scannlain, informed Herold of the involuntary transfer late last month. Earlier this year, Herold wrote a memo to DOL leadership to complain that Scalia, in her view, was intervening in DOL’s high-profile pay-bias lawsuit against Oracle by attempting to reach a low-ball settlement, the sources said. She’s also clashed with political leadership at DOL headquarters over the last three years, current and former administration officials told Bloomberg Law.

The transfer has yet to be finalized. Herold, who has hired civil rights lawyer Debra Katz, plans to file a complaint with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel alleging retaliation against a whistleblower if the department follows its verbal order with a formal notice of involuntary reassignment, the sources said.

news.bloomberglaw.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:35:16am

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

“fighting too much for workers”

God forbid we have a government that actually works FOR THE PEOPLE.

JFC.

This is the most evil administration I’ve ever seen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:39:28am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:43:32am

re: #156 🌹UOJB!

One Stop Beyond was an awesome show.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:44:17am

re: #171 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

One Stop Beyond was an awesome show.

It scared the crap out of me as a kid because each episode was based on documented accounts!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:45:03am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Boy, he’s really looking bronze in that one. Like he’s been dipped in bronze or something.

Maybe he’s going for that whole God-King Xerxes look that Rodrigo Santoro had in 300.

Imagine Trump in this getup, LOLOL:

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:45:28am

re: #160 mmmirele

I can tell you what happens…one of my friends had coronavirus early on (her carrier was a nurse who picked it up in Hong Kong and brought it to California). She had serious gut issues but it wasn’t until later that these were recognized as symptoms of COVID-19.

So here we are in August, almost six months since she got sick and she has tachycardia, BAD. Her heart starts racing when she stands up from a seated position. She’s been in for initial scans but the cardiologists can’t tell if it’s pericarditis or myocarditis. So more testing is called for. And of course there are the insurance issues, which are not helping. But yeah, heart trouble.

Remember, that pitcher from the Red Sox had to pack it in because of heart issues due to COVID.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:47:45am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ve only read about it since I was too young, but some of this makes me think of Nixon’s various attempts at price fixing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:48:09am

re: #174 makeitstop

Remember, that pitcher from the Red Sox had to pack it in because of heart issues due to COVID.

There were also reports yesterday of several football players (college level I think) that have been diagnosed with myocarditis.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:51:19am

“Recovering.”

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:51:56am

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

There were also reports yesterday of several football players (college level I think) that have been diagnosed with myocarditis.

That’s where this chain started: #94.

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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:56:20am

All I can say is, Judge Rao is an asshat.

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:56:41am

Veepstakes chatter….

I hope so. She’ll make Pence cry.

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:58:26am

re: #180 makeitstop

Veepstakes chatter….

[Embedded content]

I hope so. She’ll make Pence cry.

If he picked Rice Republicans would be beating the Benghazi drum 24/7.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 11, 2020 • 9:58:53am
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Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:00:10am

re: #181 🌹UOJB!

If he picked Rice Republicans would be beating the Benghazi drum 24/7.

There will be something they will pick on about every candidate. Harris slept her way to the nomination, Rice killed a diplomat, etc.

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:05:04am

re: #181 🌹UOJB!

If he picked Rice Republicans would be beating the Benghazi drum 24/7.

Bass has mucho baggage, too. Kamala is the smartest choice.

(Voting Joe no matter who it is, though.)

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:05:38am

re: #183 Belafon

There will be something they will pick on about every candidate. Harris slept her way to the nomination, Rice killed a diplomat, etc.

Tammy Duckworth is a “coward” (yeah they said that)

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🌹UOJB!  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:05:56am

Last night Twitter was speculating Biden was picking Mayor Pete…

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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:05:59am

re: #185 The Pie Overlord!

Tammy Duckworth is a “coward” (yeah they said that)

grrrrrrrrrrrr

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:06:32am

re: #186 🌹UOJB!

Last night Twitter was speculating Biden was picking Mayor Pete…

That wouldn’t be smart. We don’t need two white guys on the ticket this year.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:07:19am

re: #180 makeitstop

Veepstakes chatter….

[Embedded content]

I hope so. She’ll make Pence cry.

There’s no great virtue in announcing much before the convention. Keep the GOP from targeting efficiently and keep the media chatter going.

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stpaulbear  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:11:35am

re: #183 Belafon

There will be something they will pick on about every candidate. Harris slept her way to the nomination, Rice killed a diplomat, etc.

Opinions
Team Biden wishes it had known something was slightly wrong with every woman before promising a female VP

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Jay C  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:11:40am

re: #181 🌹UOJB!

If he picked Rice Republicans would be beating the Benghazi drum 24/7.

Naturally: Bret Stephens mentions it in his hatchet-job column on Rice in today’s NYT. Along with a lot of other carping. There’s a nugget of truth under the mountain of bullshit, though - US policy in sub-Saharan Africa has been, at best, uneven and rarely “productive”: but it’s been that way for decades (under various Administrations), and blaming Susan Rice for the shortcomings is a huge crock. Though Bret Stephens….

Mind you, I don’t think Rice is a good pick for VP. But not on Benghazi Boogaloo grounds….

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:13:31am
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KGxvi  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:14:12am

re: #189 Decatur Deb

There’s no great virtue in announcing much before the convention. Keep the GOP from targeting efficiently and keep the media chatter going.

In this cycle, no. In a normal cycle, picking someone relatively early gives you the ability to run multiple events.

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piratedan  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:16:17am

re: #186 🌹UOJB!

suspect that is Biden cementing the support of the former candidate and feeling out potential involvement in his administration

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:17:27am

re: #194 piratedan

suspect that is Biden cementing the support of the former candidate and feeling out potential involvement in his administration

Smart move. A united front is desperately needed right now.

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KGxvi  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:18:42am

re: #192 Dread Pirate Ron

US - 36 deaths per 100,000
Taiwan - 0.03 deaths per 100,000

Mortality rate (deaths per cases):
US - 3.2%
Taiwan - 1.46%

Current cases:
US - so fucking many we can’t even properly count them
Taiwan - like 30

Yup, we’ve done fanfuckingtastic

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:20:13am
198
Jay C  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:20:47am

re: #194 piratedan

suspect that is Biden cementing the support of the former candidate and feeling out potential involvement in his administration

And since Pete Buttigieg is unemployed at present, it’s probably a smart idea to get him out there stumping for Joe and the (D) ticket (with, perhaps a Cabinet seat as an incentive) rather than sitting around at home in South Bend.

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KGxvi  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:20:57am

re: #195 Eclectic Cyborg

Smart move. A united front is desperately needed right now.

Some talk of Biden doing something similar to what GW Bush did in 2000 and basically lining up his potential cabinet during the election to give an idea of what his administration would look like. Not a terrible idea, as long as you keep campaigning and don’t start acting like you’ve already won (no prevent defenses, and run up the fucking score)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:21:31am
201
piratedan  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:21:36am

re: #191 Jay C

while Rice has the chops to be National Security Advisor or even Head of the State Department, not holding or running for any national or locally elected position doesn’t make her a wise choice (imho, she’s capable and smart, not denying that) for a great deal of the domestic heavy lifting and repair that is needed to our governmental institutions. I think Harris covers that as she’s well versed in the law and will make fucking mincemeat of those who do not do their homework. She’s not a radical lefty but I believe she’s more from Biden’s cloth of believing in good government and who will help rebuild what was broken. If Biden puts her in charge of fixing and prosecuting what the GOP has done, I would be completely on board for that as these fucks need to finally be stuck with the bill.

202
Hecuba's daughter  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:21:39am

re: #68 Belafon

I’m pro-agressive but orderly development and I won’t allow any of that stuff Trump buys from Putin near me or my family.

Trump needs to make a splash dealing with coronavirus before the election — and what could be more of a splash than saying his BFF has a vaccine for the disease. I am certain that Putin told Trump that is the best way to ensure re-election and its safety or efficacy or whether it’s only a placebo is immaterial; voters just have to be told that it’s available and the pandemic is over! They could start the vaccinations immediately and a grateful nation will applaud dear leader! The story only has to hold up through November 3, after that it doesn’t matter to Trump. The millions who continue to believe in hydroxycholoquine will have no problem in accepting this latest lie from Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:24:35am

re: #202 Hecuba’s daughter

But there’s already Russian doctors* out there ringing the alarm bells that this vaccine isn’t ready for mass distribution and that it’s efficacy has yet to be proven under rigorous clinical conditions.

* - doctors who will, no doubt, mysteriously start falling out of windows in the next couple days.

204
jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:26:02am
205
SerialUpDinger  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:28:27am

re: #155 Teddy’s Person

YouTube

Julia
I loved that show!
Just watched the premiere on youtube.
Thank you for the trip down memory lane.

206
piratedan  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:28:31am

re: #199 KGxvi

I liken it to what Obama and Pelosi did in 2008 in their massive unfucking of the US (and tbf, the World) economy by hitting the ground running. Pelosi steered a whole shitpotful of legislation in 2008 to fix the economy, lily ledbetter, voting reform, the ACA etc….(only to have Mitch play the obstruction game really well in delaying a whole lotta shit from hitting the streets as fast as it could have, thank to the delay in seating Franken and making guys like Byrd and Kennedy show up in their death beds to get shit passed while his open caucus openly prayed for their deaths).

I suspect Biden has a serious amount of repair work to perform, from the medical, to the economic, to the post office, to the environment and international relations, justice department, repopulating the government with civil service and also going after the GOP wrecking crew and maybe even killing Putin.

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KGxvi  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:28:59am

Interesting bit about the Russian vaccine… they passed a law earlier in the year allowing for release without Phase 3 trials. The Phase 3 trials will start this week, and there are Phase 3 trials going on elsewhere in the world… so they’re not really ahead of anyone. This is just more Putin bedazzled bullshit.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:30:05am

re: #207 KGxvi

Interesting bit about the Russian vaccine… they passed a law earlier in the year allowing for release without Phase 3 trials. The Phase 3 trials will start this week, and there are Phase 3 trials going on elsewhere in the world… so they’re not really ahead of anyone. This is just more Putin bedazzled bullshit.

Madness.

209
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:30:31am

re: #186 🌹UOJB!

Last night Twitter was speculating Biden was picking Mayor Pete…

speculation I saw on twitter last night was Pete being considered for a Cabinet position.

210
KGxvi  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:31:06am

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

Madness.

Well, it is Vladimir Putin. Also, link with the story.

211
wrenchwench  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:31:35am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

My step-father’s family in McKee’s Rocks watched Dumont on a coin-operated TV. You put in a quarter to watch a half-hour, and at the end of the month the credit company came by and emptied the box.

Mr. w’s family had a coin-operated refrigerator.

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JC1  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:32:46am

re: #208 Dr Lizardo

Madness.

I appreciate them willing to become sacrificial test subjects. Vaccine might actually work, in which case it’s great news. Vaccine might be a shitshow, in which case Vlad just might get overthrown or at least severely weakened. Seems like a win/win to me.

213
jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:34:09am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:36:07am

re: #212 JC1

I appreciate them willing to become sacrificial test subjects. Vaccine might actually work, in which case it’s great news. Vaccine might be a shitshow, in which case Vlad just might get overthrown or at least severely weakened. Seems like a win/win to me.

Maybe it’s because I used to read a lot of dystopian sci-fi in my younger days, but I can easily imagine a scenario where this Russian vaccine actually ends up decreasing COVID-19’s infectiousness….but increasing its lethality by several orders of magnitude.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:36:37am

re: #72 Belafon

[Embedded content]

The other thing you’ll see pop up suddenly in the first day or two of November in certain districts are fake ballot drop off boxes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:36:48am

re: #210 KGxvi

Well, it is Vladimir Putin. Also, link with the story.

I’m telling you, Trump will announce he’s acquired millions of doses of the vaccine around the last week of October and Americans will be getting it “very very soon”.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:38:22am

“…Apart from the Ruptly videographer, only one other journalist — a local television reporter — heard about the Bible burning, and noted it with a single sentence buried in a lengthy report on that night’s protests. The story, by KOIN, the local CBS News affiliate, also reported that a group of women calling themselves Moms United for Black Lives Matter attempted to put out the fire — a detail not included in the Ruptly video, which was edited to string together a number of clips from the night. (A New York Times reporter had observed a truck offering free Bibles at the protests earlier that night, though it was not clear whether it provided the book that was burned.)

Ruptly instead made the Bible burning a focus of its protest coverage that night. The news agency tweeted the video twice on Aug. 1 — here and here — and featured it on its website. In the tweets and text that accompany the video on the agency’s website, the Bible burning is presented as the night’s central event; the flag burning is secondary. RT, the network that runs Ruptly, also wrote an entire story about the Bible burning. Ruptly and RT then let Twitter take it from there.

The video was first tweeted by an account that lists two cities — Oklahoma City and Abu Dhabi — as its users’ location and has only a few dozen followers. It was soon after deleted. But before it disappeared, the tweet was picked up by a Malaysian named Ian Miles Cheong who has amassed a large Twitter following by playing a right-wing American raconteur on social media.

Mr. Cheong added his own commentary to the initial tweet, wildly exaggerating what the Ruptly video showed. “Left-wing activists bring a stack of Bibles to burn in front of the federal courthouse in Portland,” he wrote.

His tweet quickly became the basis for an entire day of outrage from right-wing news outlets, Republican political figures and alt-right commentators. It was Mr. Cheong whose tweet spurred the younger Mr. Trump, Mr. Cruz and numerous other high-profile Republicans to weigh in. It was also held up as evidence of the protesters’ depravity by prominent alt-right conspiracy theorists like Jack Posobiec, a correspondent for the One America News Network, which is much favored by the president.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:38:39am

re: #215 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The other thing you’ll see pop up suddenly in the first day or two of November in certain districts are fake ballot drop off boxes.

We really need to get people to mail ballots on the first day it’s possible to do so.

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A Cranky One  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:41:17am

re: #203 Dr Lizardo

But there’s already Russian doctors* out there ringing the alarm bells that this vaccine isn’t ready for mass distribution and that it’s efficacy has yet to be proven under rigorous clinical conditions.

* - doctors who will, no doubt, mysteriously start falling out of windows in the next couple days.

Good thing Biden wants to abolish windows.

220
Belafon  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:41:43am

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

We really need to get people to mail ballots on the first day it’s possible to do so.

The drop off boxes are meant to counter Trump’s postal service shenanigans. People and cities will have to be very diligent about knowing where the official boxes are.

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Interesting Times  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:44:20am

re: #220 Belafon

The drop off boxes are meant to counter Trump’s postal service shenanigans. People and cities will have to be very diligent about knowing where the official boxes are.

I can totally see the trumpengopenbarr regime putting up fake ones, and also attempting to vandalize/destroy/”disappear” the legit ones from certain neighborhoods. Dems/voting rights groups need to be prepared for any possibility (i.e. instead of asking why they won’t do something horrible, ask “why not?”)

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A Cranky One  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:45:38am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2020 • 10:49:45am

re: #218 Eclectic Cyborg

We really need to get people to mail ballots on the first day it’s possible to do so.

They have to get them first.

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makeitstop  Aug 11, 2020 • 11:01:30am

re: #200 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

[Embedded content]

Looks like my cat Bean. He doesn’t play an instrument though, he just looks fabulous.

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dangerman  Aug 11, 2020 • 11:15:33am

re: #220 Belafon

The drop off boxes are meant to counter Trump’s postal service shenanigans. People and cities will have to be very diligent about knowing where the official boxes are.

On creating safe dropbox conditonns

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 11, 2020 • 2:35:56pm

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