Trump: “I Would Love to Be Black Because…” (Voiced by Stephen Fry) [VIDEO]

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Trump says he’d love to be black, and the reason he gives shows more than racism. It points to hidden tricks behind his wealth, and the shocking wealth gap between black and white families.

How racist is America? Research has uncovered a surprising answer, which might change the way you see the black lives matter protests.

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Black men receive longer sentences for the same federal crimes as white men.
The US Sentencing Commission:
ussc.gov

Hiring discrimination is as prevalent today as it was in 1989.
Study by Northwestern University, Harvard, and the Institute for Social Research:
vox.com
(Other studies found higher levels of discrimination.)

The black-white wealth gap is unchanged after half a century:
economist.com
apps.urban.org

Police kill a disproportionate number of black people.
pnas.org
Also, blacks are more likely than whites to have been unarmed.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Correcting Trump on black crime.
factcheck.org

Trump’s golf trips:
trumpgolfcount.com

Fox News viewers are less informed than people who don’t watch any news.
Fairleigh Dickinson University’s PublicMind survey.
publicmind.fdu.edu

How Trump inherited $400m (in today’s money):
NYT: YouTube

Coronavirus Resources:

Masks are key to controlling the coronavirus pandemic (study published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences):
forbes.com

John Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center:
coronavirus.jhu.edu

Our previous video on Trump, coronavirus, and masks:
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169 comments
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:39:11am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:41:24am

From the last thread, I’m not saying Trump will try to seize uncounted mail in ballots in swing state urban districts, only that there is nothing Trump won’t do, except gracefully concede and cooperate in an orderly transfer of power, so the Democrats best prepare for any eventuality.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:42:08am

Trump knows that he will face legal charges if he loses the election. He is not going to shy away from committing illegal acts to prevent that from happening.

We need to start preparing for them now.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:45:36am

re: #2 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I am sure that Speaker Pelosi and her group are preparing for those types of incidents. We may not be privy to them but I am sure it is be researched as we type these messages.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:50:44am

re: #4 PhillyPretzel

I am sure that Speaker Pelosi and her group are preparing for those types of incidents. We may not be privy to them but I am sure it is be researched as we type these messages.

I hope so, because we can no longer assume it can’t happen here, because it can. There are millions of armed fascists in the police forces and white supremacist militias across the country, who I believe would support a Trump attempt to illegally retain power.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:51:35am

I will not be surprised to see the Bone Spurs Bozo go way over the line and use every trick in the book to fuck up the election.

I also believe that the Joint Chiefs Of Staff have had enough of him, his asskissing Veep and bloated bigoted blimp Attorney General.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:52:00am

re: #5 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I hope so, because we can no longer assume it can’t happen here, because it can. There are millions of armed fascists in the police forces and white supremacist militias across the country, who I believe would support a Trump attempt to illegally retain power.

We have to assume that it will: Trump has nothing to lose.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:53:06am

re: #7 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have to assume that it will: Trump has nothing to lose.

Trump does have something to lose…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:53:13am

Someone trustworthy just confirmed to me that the great jazz bassist Gary Peacock has died. I’m very sad now.

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BigPapa  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:53:32am

This video is something but the links are something else.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:54:10am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

I am sorry to hear of your loss. :(

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:54:12am

re: #6 🌹UOJB!

I will not be surprised to see the Bone Spurs Bozo go way over the line and use every trick in the book to fuck up the election.

I also believe that the Joint Chiefs Of Staff have had enough of him, his asskissing Veep and bloated bigoted blimp Attorney General.

The US military has an unbroken tradition of not getting involved in domestic politics, so we can’t be sure they would act if Trump federalizes the police to violently support a coup.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:54:12am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

So sorry to hear, Charles. RIP, Gary…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:58:28am
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William Lewis  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:00:40pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Someone trustworthy just confirmed to me that the great jazz bassist Gary Peacock has died. I’m very sad now.

Aw, I did not need to hear that. Time to listen to some standards trio… :(

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:03:45pm

I understand Biden is trying to position himself as a sane alternative, but I really believe this is the absolute wrong way to play this.

He needs to say we have to WAIT until any vaccine goes through all the necessary testing and trials and not rush it out, and make it very clear that Trump is GOING TO RUSH IT OUT.

He needs to play hardball on this topic. It’s too important to dither about.

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retired cynic  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:06:39pm

re: #276 Mattand

That’s the problem, right there. I’ve got an ex-cop up the street from flying a 6’ x 4’ Trump flag.

No American flag, mind you, just a Trump one.

A friend is here, and she says her sister hated driving one way from her house because a guy there had BIG Trump signs all of his yard, including one that said “Don’t vote for Biden and his Ho.”

She said after this last week, and the military things, all those signs are gone.

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BigPapa  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:06:59pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Agree. Stick to the science and the scientific process. *That* is what we trust, not the people.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:07:56pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Yes. And Joe knows that DT will try to rush it and also mess up a few other things as well. I think Joe is hoping to give DT enough rope to hang himself.

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:09:27pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

He needs to play hardball on this topic. It’s too important to dither about.

There’s always more than one way to play hardball. Biden shows the same want, without lowering any standards.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:13:04pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

I’m just wondering how many alarm bells have to go off about this moron for people to understand the danger he presents to our nation. A reminder that the majority of white people support a clown.

1) I just saw a report on the polling that says his only majority now is white men without college educations.

2) Regarding the paranoid fantasy of the day, come on, people, consider the logistics. Mail-in ballots come in over a period of weeks. Even if you vote in person, states have early voting, so again, logistics. If you’re stealing the “wrong” ballots, in a razor- thin margin election like the DT five in 2016, which ones are you going to grab? And as soon as you’re caught, which they would be if they went for lots of precincts, the game is over. (This kind of thing would make a case SCOTUS would agree to hear, and I for one do not believe they’d allow something as raw as this. DT has already been heard to whine that “his” appointees aren’t being loyal enough to him, and here, they’d have to declare that uncounted ballots should not be counted.)

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A Mom Anon  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:14:58pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

I think the shortest time for vaccine development before now was around 4 years or so (for mumps I think). Of course our technology and method of doing such big things has also improved a lot in that time, but there are still steps that have to be taken. And some things are just SOP and you can’t deviate beyond that. I thought I had read that the phase 2 parts of some of these trials had been rolled back (via Trump’s FDA) and if that’s the case then that’s flat out endangering the public. Americans are so used to instant gratification that there’s always a need to hurry. Trump is banking on that (probably literally) to make himself look like a hero. It’s backfiring because no one trusts him. I’ll make sure I hear from actual non hack doctors before I line up for a shot. A lot of his followers are anti science fools, I don’t think this is going to be the savior that the GOP thinks it will be.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:18:03pm

re: #21 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

1) I just saw a report on the polling that says his only majority now is white men without college educations.

2) Regarding the paranoid fantasy of the day, come on, people, consider the logistics. Mail-in ballots come in over a period of weeks. Even if you vote in person, states have early voting, so again, logistics. If you’re stealing the “wrong” ballots, in a razor- thin margin election like the DT five in 2016, which ones are you going to grab? And as soon as you’re caught, which they would be if they went for lots of precincts, the game is over. (This kind of thing would make a case SCOTUS would agree to hear, and I for one do not believe they’d allow something as raw as this. DT has already been heard to whine that “his” appointees aren’t being loyal enough to him, and here, they’d have to declare that uncounted ballots should not be counted.)

The most realistic threat is targeted, engineered delays to create massive lines. Local orgs can prepare contingency support to offset heat/cold/wet/fatigue. Do it now if your environment lends itself to this kind of ratfucking, and don’t forget loaner chairs for the Olds.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:19:52pm

re: #21 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

And I will add that I was informed before the Labor Day holiday that Election Day classes are going to be held in Philly near the end of the month. Most likely I will be going to said classes. In these classes we are told what to look for and how to avoid these problems. I will also note that the City Commissioners hold onto their materials tightly and have decent security. And most of the people who serve on the Election Day boards have the numbers programmed into their cell phones in case something does happen.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:23:44pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

The most realistic threat is targeted, engineered delays to create massive lines. Local orgs can prepare contingency support to offset heat/cold/wet/fatigue. Do it now if your environment lends itself to this kind of ratfucking, and don’t forget loaner chairs for the Olds.

Good point. In CA, that’s not going to happen (100% of registered voters will receive ballots in the mail), so I’ll probably spend election day doing virtual get-out-the-vote.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:25:32pm

re: #23 Decatur Deb

I wonder if that’s why the idiot in chief told people to show up at the polls and try to vote even after they cast a mail in ballot. More chaos, less voting.

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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:27:12pm

If we are going to give form to the various fears on the election, I see the following:

1. Pre-election and election measures

Ignoring the usual ratf@cking activities, the R’s have, are, and will try various voter suppression and election manipulation methods. Here is what I see:

A. Through pulling voting rights from members of groups they deem politically hostile
The US has a long history on dealing with this. I expect little ‘new’ in this arena. I suspect that the success of such efforts will match historical trends.

B. There may be attempts at voter intimidation at the polls.
The US has a long history in this area as well. Again, I suspect that the success in this area will also match historical trends.

C. There _may_ be attempts to manipulate vote totals. Particularly electronic votes.
There is a decades long and still ongoing debate on this. Researchers say it is quite possible, forensic folks say it hasn’t been proven yet. It also plays into the next point below. To me, this is the biggest unknown.

D. Casting doubt at every possible thing as a deliberate ‘rigging’ of the polls.
Part of Trump’s strength and his usual strategy in providing content to the media.

E. Official harassment of candidates.
This will be a measure on the health of our democracy. It has been used in the past. It generally preceded war. So far, the inclusive side has generally won those conflicts.

2. Post Election efforts, where they lose:

A. Lawfare
Large numbers of lawsuits and appeals. The courts are particularly ill-equipped to handle large numbers of cases that must be handled quickly. Part of Trump’s, and McConnoll’s, strategy.

B. Massive content claiming the election was rigged
Part of Trump’s usual media strategy.

C. Armed intervention.
I view this as the most dangerous but least likely. The military leadership has stated that they don’t want to play. Most of the right wing militias are performative actors. They win by getting news coverage, which they get by acting outrageous. However, they lose if they get killed in the process. I do suspect that some of the dumber ‘cannon fodder’ levels will still manage to get themselves killed and take innocent passerby with them.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:27:34pm

re: #26 A Mom Anon

I wonder if that’s why the idiot in chief told people to show up at the polls and try to vote even after they cast a mail in ballot. More chaos, less voting.

I’d bet a few hundred bottles of water on it. Chaos is his salient talent.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:29:15pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:29:20pm

re: #27 ckkatz

The ACLU is your friend.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:29:21pm

Michael Cohen did clear up one thing when he said that Trump’s sole focus with free media and twitter has been to create chaos—he is skilled and does it on purpose.

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jaunte  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:29:41pm

His last big heist.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:33:02pm

And on another front, today in California, total covid cases for today was 3,091. This is probably incomplete, as weekend reporting is spotty even when it’s not a holiday weekend, but we’ve been kissing 5000 from above for a while now, and the 14-day average is down around 4,750. In my county, daily rate has been 150-200, today it’s 59 (same caveat as above, but I don’t think missing cases are going to swell that number to the old norms).

Now if we can just avoid fouling up Labor day celebrations (maybe it’ll be too hot to go out), and fires don’t force too much congregation (put your masks in the emergency kit), we might actually beat this thing down to catch-and-trace levels at last.

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bratwurst  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:33:03pm

Somehow the metaphor about the relationship between flies and shit comes to mind.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:34:31pm

re: #32 jaunte

I hope he steals every dime the GOP can scrounge. We’ll know where to look for it.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:35:11pm

#BoogerGate.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:38:31pm

re: #27 ckkatz

For “C,” there are very few places that don’t have paper trails, so that’s probably not a viable option, otherwise, a good summary of what we need to look out for (on some things, like voter suppression, some of us started working on it in December 2016, and we hope it will be much harder than it has been).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:38:31pm

re: #22 A Mom Anon

. Americans are so used to instant gratification that there’s always a need to hurry. Trump is banking on that (probably literally) to make himself look like a hero. It’s backfiring because no one trusts him. I’ll make sure I hear from actual non hack doctors before I line up for a shot. A lot of his followers are anti science fools, I don’t think this is going to be the savior that the GOP thinks it will be.

Except that an awful lot of his supporters are anti-vaxers…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:38:59pm

re: #34 bratwurst

Somehow the metaphor about the relationship between flies and shit comes to mind.

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I have cousins in Hesse. One of them was telling me that majority of Hessians especially in Frankfurt are more lower case l- liberals but there is a fringe movement as mentioned in the article that rejects the post 1918 order. Shit is scary.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:39:31pm

re: #28 Decatur Deb

I’d bet a few hundred bottles of water on it. Chaos is his salient talent.

No bet. Sheer stupidity is as likely a candidate.

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mmmirele  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:41:02pm

Long thread by Sarah Taber, a crop scientist, about how rural elites basically drive people out of their communities so they can be big fish in a small pond. It’s more complex than that, but it’s worth a read. One of her solution is to bring more agricultural processing owned by employees back to rural areas. She also notes that tech people moving out to the country is not a solution.

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:41:17pm

re: #36 Dave In Austin

#BoogerGate.

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The reason for masking.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:41:42pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Will the drug company that found and manufactured the hypothetical vaccine allow that to happen, though? I think not.

(Gotta run, back later.)

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:42:14pm

re: #42 wrenchwench

Yes. I do not want DT’s germs or boogers for that matter.

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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:42:40pm

re: #30 Decatur Deb

The ACLU is your friend.

Yes! The ACLU has been a critical component during the past 4 years. I suspect (and hope) that the Democrats have been lining up additional legal resources as well.

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:43:08pm

re: #44 PhillyPretzel

Yes. I do not want DT’s germs or boogers for that matter.

I want to tie one on his face. A big one.

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bratwurst  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:45:03pm

re: #39 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I have cousins in Hesse. One of them was telling me that majority of Hessians especially in Frankfurt are more lower case l- liberals but there is a fringe movement as mentioned in the article that rejects the post 1918 order. Shit is scary.

I lived in the Rhein-Ruhr metro area in Nordrhein-Westfalen from 2004 to 2008. Back then the far right got 1.8% of the vote nationally and significantly less than one percent locally.

I am frightened.

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mmmirele  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:45:17pm

re: #32 jaunte

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His last big heist.

When do the August numbers have to be released? We know the Biden/Harris campaign picked up $345 million, but I just checked and there’s nothing from the Trump side, nor are the presstitutes asking about it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:46:24pm

re: #47 bratwurst

I lived in the Rhein-Ruhr metro area in Nordrhein-Westfalen from 2004 to 2008. Back then the far right got 1.8% of the vote nationally and significantly less than one percent locally.

I am frightened.

I’m definitely worried about what this economic downturn means long term too. I’m seeing some similarities between our era and post WWI.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:47:18pm

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I know, and that’s been fed by the rush to get something done, if my former Facebook conservatives are an indicator. But by that time we could be looking at close to half a million dead. Or more, a lot is going to depend on weather and if people can really truly resume some semblance of the old normal. With unemployment being this high and many jobs not coming back, that may squash some of that down a little. All these flag waving trump supporters aren’t rich or even that well off, including some of those boat parade people. It’s going to have to get super bad for them to even get close to rethinking what they do.But ignoring reality isn’t going to make it go away, no matter how many prayers they pray or trump boat rallies they attend.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:49:02pm

re: #45 ckkatz

Yes! The ACLU has been a critical component during the past 4 years. I suspect (and hope) that the Democrats have been lining up additional legal resources as well.

Usually the SPLC is the favorite prog.org for Wife and I, but this year the ACLU has done really good work stemming Alabama election BS. We’ll shift more support to them for the long haul. And the League of Women Voters chapter we’ve just started. …And the Dream Defenders. …And…

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:50:24pm

A week ago, I bought a home blood pressure monitor device. Today, I made it work. Blood pressure is within desired parameters. Now, it is. When I was unsuccessfully trying it, I think my pressure went up. No way to know, though.

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bratwurst  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:50:32pm

re: #49 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m seeing some similarities between our era and post WWI.

I can’t decide if we are more like the Gilded Age or the Fall of the Roman Empire myself.

The rapid COVID tests for Hamptons partygoers while essential workers roll the dice ever goddamn day speaks to the former…but a massive wildfire caused by gender reveal pyrotechnics makes a case for the later.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:53:46pm

re: #53 bratwurst

I can’t decide if we are more like the Gilded Age or the Fall of the Roman Empire myself.

Willkommen als Weimar.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:53:58pm
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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:54:10pm

re: #37 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

For “C,” there are very few places that don’t have paper trails, so that’s probably not a viable option, otherwise, a good summary of what we need to look out for (on some things, like voter suppression, some of us started working on it in December 2016, and we hope it will be much harder than it has been).

Thank you for the kind words on the summary.

I was concerned that I might be spreading “FUD” [Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt]. But then decided that a concrete summary helps put a ‘ceiling’ on the what might otherwise be undefined horror.

Obviously, I cannot claim to see everything. So there may be additional points that I missed. I invite additions to the list.

And I do believe that every one of the points can be handled successfully by the Biden-Harris team.

Thank you and to all others as well, who have been working to fix the wrongs of voter suppression.

Like you, I understand that additional electronic voting protections have been added over the years. And folks are working on more currently. I do hope that everybody succeeds in making this election (more) free and fair.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:55:35pm

re: #53 bratwurst

I can’t decide if we are more like the Gilded Age or the Fall of the Roman Empire myself.

The rapid COVID tests for Hamptons partygoers while essential workers roll the dice ever goddamn day speaks to the former…but a massive wildfire caused by gender reveal pyrotechnics makes a case for the later.

I’ll defer to you on the Roman. Most of my studying has been on the post French Revolution and early Industrial world. My theory is warfare in these times is defined by information technology just as warfare last century was by industrial tech.

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Jay C  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:57:11pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Even now he just can’t resist the dumb cheap shot against Pelosi. He’s Trump with better hair.

Though not by much, to judge by that picture….

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bratwurst  Sep 7, 2020 • 12:57:17pm
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A Mom Anon  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:00:39pm

re: #59 bratwurst

Dear god that is a new level of stupid.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:02:12pm

re: #59 bratwurst

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Gee James, what could it be? It’s’ not like Joey-B was something like Vice President for 8 years and knows some shit. Oh wait…

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bratwurst  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:03:02pm
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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:03:03pm

re: #51 Decatur Deb

Usually the SPLC is the favorite prog.org for Wife and I, but this year the ACLU has done really good work stemming Alabama election BS. We’ll shift more support to them for the long haul. And the League of Women Voters chapter we’ve just started. …And the Dream Defenders. …And…

There are so many desperate needs. And we have so little that we can give to meet these needs. But what we can give, must suffice.

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Jay C  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:03:29pm

re: #59 bratwurst

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How did he know to start this mantra MONTHS in advance?

I dunno, Jimmy: maybe because that “mantra” is just good policy and COMMON FUCKING SENSE?????

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:03:36pm

He’s not gonna take it anymore.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:04:50pm
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Belafon  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:05:05pm

re: #16 Charles Johnson

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I understand Biden is trying to position himself as a sane alternative, but I really believe this is the absolute wrong way to play this.

He needs to say we have to WAIT until any vaccine goes through all the necessary testing and trials and not rush it out, and make it very clear that Trump is GOING TO RUSH IT OUT.

He needs to play hardball on this topic. It’s too important to dither about.

I think that’s what he’s saying. But he’s also saying that, like any good Democrat, if he had to choose between his presidency and a working vaccine, he would choose the latter.

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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:05:32pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I guess that Romney’s virtue signalling to his base.

And to the rest of us exactly what he thinks about that base.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:06:27pm

re: #68 ckkatz

I guess that Romney’s virtue signalling to his base.

And to the rest of us exactly what he thinks about that base.

where does his wife get her hair done?

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:06:58pm

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:08:24pm

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

where does his wife get her hair done?

Where does Rafalfa get its mane done?

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:10:49pm

BTW Charles, I stumbled across Elise LeGrow and am very happy for that.
As they say, “She does it for me.”
Sweet.

Youtube Video

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A Mom Anon  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:17:13pm

re: #70 nines09

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:18:54pm

re: #17 retired cynic

A friend is here, and she says her sister hated driving one way from her house because a guy there had BIG Trump signs all of his yard, including one that said “Don’t vote for Biden and his Ho.”

She said after this last week, and the military things, all those signs are gone.

On fivethirtyeight.com Trump’s disapproval jumped back up to -9.3 today. If anecdotes like this hold true, he could be 10 points underwater again very soon.

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:20:14pm

re: #73 A Mom Anon

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TarHellion  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:21:44pm

Not too worried about North Carolina when it comes to the voting process. The county election boards are controlled by Democrats, and absentee ballots already are being requested and mailed out. The NC elections director anticipates 50 percent of the vote will be by One-Stop Early Voting that begins October 15. Those early votes and the absentee votes will be totaled when the polls close at 7:30. The state director indicated as much as 80 percent of the vote could be known once those votes are tabulated.

I do have concern with FFVCS telling people to check their votes because these yahoos will overwhelm county election boards with demands to know proof of “where their vote is” and then try to vote twice. My county has 3 county election employees, and then a 5-member county board of elections (3-2 for Democrats). We have around 53,000 registered voters in the county, so I am hoping for a smooth process.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:21:45pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:22:09pm

re: #21 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

1) I just saw a report on the polling that says his only majority now is white men without college educations.

2) Regarding the paranoid fantasy of the day, come on, people, consider the logistics. Mail-in ballots come in over a period of weeks. Even if you vote in person, states have early voting, so again, logistics. If you’re stealing the “wrong” ballots, in a razor- thin margin election like the DT five in 2016, which ones are you going to grab? And as soon as you’re caught, which they would be if they went for lots of precincts, the game is over. (This kind of thing would make a case SCOTUS would agree to hear, and I for one do not believe they’d allow something as raw as this. DT has already been heard to whine that “his” appointees aren’t being loyal enough to him, and here, they’d have to declare that uncounted ballots should not be counted.)

It wouldn’t be the first hare brained scheme Trump attempted with disastrous results. Not saying he will try this, just saying the Democrats need to prepare for any scenario.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:27:32pm

re: #32 jaunte

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His last big heist.

It would also not surprise me if Trump takes AF1 to Moscow on January 19, with figurative suitcases filled with cash, and stays there.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:28:38pm

re: #79 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It would also not surprise me if Trump takes AF1 to Moscow on January 19, with figurative suitcases filled with cash, and stays there.

And then tries to sell the plane.

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:29:22pm

re: #77 Dave In Austin

Sweet. I told my pacifist friend today there would be no pacifists left if at one point they did not…
right push, left jab, right hammer mutha

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:29:36pm

re: #39 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I have cousins in Hesse. One of them was telling me that majority of Hessians especially in Frankfurt are more lower case l- liberals but there is a fringe movement as mentioned in the article that rejects the post 1918 order. Shit is scary.

At least Germany has a sane center-right party, unlike the Republicans.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:33:07pm

re: #82 NO SMOCKING GUN!

At least Germany has a sane center-right party, unlike the Republicans.

It’s hysterical how every right winger I talk to with knowledge of Merkel thinks she’s a leftist. She’s a conservative.

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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:34:45pm

re: #41 mmmirele

Great thread! Thanks for posting it.

Her points on the antebellum South and how the plantations ruled the southern rural economy were spot on.

In 1860 Western Virginia (west of the Shenandoah, now West Virginia) had a larger white population than the Eastern part, because the plantation owners chased out the small farmers and kept all the good agricultural land for themselves. The only folks they allowed in their counties were the the support folks (doctors, merchants, etc) and the slaves who counted for representation, but who couldn’t vote.

I am currently reading a book on Pre-Revolutionary War New York State. The behavior of large landholders there matches her thread as well.
ETA - ‘than the Eastern part’

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:36:55pm

re: #77 Dave In Austin

“I ain’t gonna lie man, he just got that pizza he ordered.”

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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:36:58pm

re: #84 ckkatz

And particularly notable in her thread was the use of ‘grody’. I haven’t seen that used since I left Pittsburgh many years ago.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:43:07pm

re: #17 retired cynic

A friend is here, and she says her sister hated driving one way from her house because a guy there had BIG Trump signs all of his yard, including one that said “Don’t vote for Biden and his Ho.”

She said after this last week, and the military things, all those signs are gone.

Removed out of embarrassment most likely. They’ll still vote for him.

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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:44:33pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

A week ago, I bought a home blood pressure monitor device. Today, I made it work. Blood pressure is within desired parameters. Now, it is. When I was unsuccessfully trying it, I think my pressure went up. No way to know, though.

Sounds like you are using it like I do.

I got a blood pressure monitoring device when I was having episodes of high blood pressure.

I would go into a Dr’s appt. The nurse would measure my blood pressure. It would be high. So she would measure it again. It would be even higher.

I ended up using the blood pressure monitoring device to learn to relax when I was getting my blood pressure measured.

Since then, I apparently no longer have high blood pressure.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:48:51pm

re: #83 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s hysterical how every right winger I talk to with knowledge of Merkel thinks she’s a leftist. She’s a conservative.

By insane U.S. rightwing standards, every European establishment conservative party is a pack of Marxists.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:49:40pm

re: #88 ckkatz

This is probably what it is. White Coat Hypertension.
en.wikipedia.org

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:49:54pm

re: #88 ckkatz

Sounds like you are using it like I do.

I got a blood pressure monitoring device when I was having episodes of high blood pressure.

I would go into a Dr’s appt. The nurse would measure my blood pressure. It would be high. So she would measure it again. It would be even higher.

I ended up using the blood pressure monitoring device to learn to relax when I was getting my blood pressure measured.

Since then, I apparently no longer have high blood pressure.

This is actually a thing: White Coat Hypertension

I have it too. Took me awhile to catch on. My BP would be high at my appointments but I had no symptoms associated with hypertension or any secondary health issues that affect my BP. Started getting much better readings once I bought a cuff I could use at home.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:50:39pm

re: #89 NO SMOCKING GUN!

By insane U.S. rightwing standards, every European establishment conservative party is a pack of Marxists.

Yep.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:53:02pm

re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg

My BP at my doctor’s appointments tended to be lower than I was testing daily at home.

My theory was it was because I walked 10-12 blocks to my appointment, had no coffee yet that morning (fasting due to probable blood draw), and generally sat quietly for 10-15 minutes once I got to the office before they did initial processing and took my BP.

My theory was that the wait was long enough for my heart rate to slow back down from the walk, but that the blood vessels were still slightly dilated and thus there was less pressure.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:53:46pm

re: #89 NO SMOCKING GUN!

By insane U.S. rightwing standards, every European establishment conservative party is a pack of Marxists.

The American “conservative” movement is more akin to European far-right parties and extremists.

Because they are.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:54:22pm

Trump stays on brand.. Attacking women of color anyone..

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:55:44pm

re: #90 PhillyPretzel

This is probably what it is. White Coat Hypertension.
en.wikipedia.org

From there: A new term for an old thing: clinically normotensive

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:56:56pm

re: #95 Kilroy was here

Trump stays on brand.. Attacking women of color anyone..

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I mean Kamala was tweeting and doing rallies instead of paying attention to a potential pandemic. Oh wait.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 7, 2020 • 1:58:39pm

After watching the corpse flower grow dramatically over a week, it is finally opening:

2020 Corpse Flowers at U.S. Botanic Garden Sept 7

The other one was added to the stand a couple of days ago. At the speed these things grow, it should be open by this coming weekend.

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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:01:13pm

re: #48 mmmirele

When do the August numbers have to be released? We know the Biden/Harris campaign picked up $345 million, but I just checked and there’s nothing from the Trump side, nor are the presstitutes asking about it.

From Ballotopedia:

Federal campaign finance disclosures

All candidates must file quarterly reports, pre-election reports 12 days before the general election, and post-election reports 30 days after the general election. If the committee raised or anticipated raising or spending a total of $100,000 by the end of a calendar year, the committee needed to file monthly campaign finance reports in the following year. If the committee did not raise, spend, or anticipate raising or spending that much, they only needed to file quarterly reports to the FEC.

Quarterly reports are due April 15, July 15, October 15, and January 15.
Monthly reports are due on the 20th of each month beginning in 2020.
Pre-election reports are due October 22, 2020.
Post-election reports are due December 3, 2020.

ballotpedia.org

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:01:17pm

re: #95 Kilroy was here

Trump stays on brand.. Attacking women of color anyone..

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Oh shut the fuck up you moronic, projecting asshole.

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:03:35pm

re: #96 wrenchwench

It’s real, and if your doctor or dentist doesn’t listen to you, GTFOT.
Trust me.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:07:39pm

re: #101 nines09

It’s real, and if your doctor or dentist doesn’t listen to you, GTFOT.
Trust me.

My doc recognizes it. My home measurements (Omron) run from a bit too high down to low normal. Wife, RN from the days of iron nurses and wooden stethoscopes, says as long as I can pull an occasional low I’m good. Then again, she might be thinking about the insurance.

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:19:46pm

re: #101 nines09

It’s real, and if your doctor or dentist doesn’t listen to you, GTFOT.
Trust me.

Docs have been saying ‘borderline’ for years. New physical therapist said to get the home unit. A neuropsychologist that I saw once said, ‘always have them check the pressure manually’. The new PT is the first person who apparently knew what that meant, and did it. Then said to get the device.

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:22:35pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

Matters not except when you are in office.
I got absolutely hammered with my (old) doc telling me I had high BP.
This after what my readings for years were considered within acceptable.
Why you even had a scorecard with up/down and all the degrees.
Then suddenly I had HIGH BP.
Nothing changed. I would check myself periodically on the BP machine in the stores, always lower that what I clocked in office.
Berated me.
They can.
WE can.
Fix this.
Beat me up for a year, and I allowed myself to be prescribed BP medication.
Took it and felt as if I was dying. Bad. Real bad.
Called up doc, told him.
In a snippet of conversation, he said “Well, stop taking it.”
Well. Fuck me. Spent all that time telling me you could, we could, fix what?
Then after beating me over the head for how long, when I take it and have issues just stop?

WTF.

Yes.
So that was back in the day where I had to have a DOT physical because I could kill a family of 5 with my Bunky Big Rig.
Saw a doctor who did not know me.
Never saw me before.
I asked, “Hey Doc, what would happen if I did not really have high BP and took BP meds?
Her exact words were, “Oh you feel like you were going to die.”
Pay attention to who and what is talking to you.

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:25:26pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

You getting your hamsterbike rides in while less-closely supervised? Just asking, not supervising…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:25:40pm

Warning: Violence (though very satisfying)

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:26:45pm

re: #66 Charles Johnson

Charles as I said earlier I am sorry to hear of the loss of this musician. Earlier today I gave you $60 for another ad free year of LGF. I would like to know if you got my payment. I used Go Fund Me because that PayPal link was not working for me.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:27:12pm

Trump will do anything, including destroying US mail.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:27:15pm

re: #104 nines09

Matters not except when you are in office.
I got absolutely hammered with my (old) doc telling me I had high BP.
This after what my readings for years were considered within acceptable.
Why you even had a scorecard with up/down and all the degrees.
Then suddenly I had HIGH BP.
Nothing changed. I would check myself periodically on the BP machine in the stores, always lower that what I clocked in office.
Berated me.
They can.
WE can.
Fix this.
Beat me up for a year, and I allowed myself to be prescribed BP medication.
Took it and felt as if I was dying. Bad. Real bad.
Called up doc, told him.
In a snippet of conversation, he said “Well, stop taking it.”
Well. Fuck me. Spent all that time telling me you could, we could, fix what?
Then after beating me over the head for how long, when I take it and have issues just stop?

WTF.

Yes.
So that was back in the day where I had to have a DOT physical because I could kill a family of 5 with my Bunky Big Rig.
Saw a doctor who did not know me.
Never saw me before.
I asked, “Hey Doc, what would happen if I did not really have high BP and took BP meds?
Her exact words were, “Oh you feel like you were going to die.”
Pay attention to who and what is talking to you.

Not more than a few years ago, the mavens changed the scorecard. A lot of people who were Marginal woke up High.

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wrenchwench  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:27:39pm

And, now I’m called in a little early. Happy Labor Day! (My first as a union member.)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:29:23pm

It was supposed to be cooler today. It is 110 already.

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stpaulbear  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:30:00pm

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Warning: Violence (though very satisfying)

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I wish the video was a couple seconds longer. I want to hear what that guy wasn’t going to lie about.

re: #85 nines09

“I ain’t gonna lie man, he just got that pizza he ordered.”

Is that really what he said? It’s goofy but so possible. I need to know.

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ckkatz  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:30:03pm

Apropos the discussion in an earlier thread on deep fakes.

Apparently there is a genre of deepfaking Nicholas Cage into movies that he was not originally in:

There are lots of videos online,
Here is one:

Nick Cage DeepFakes Movie Compilation

and even a reddit group.
reddit.com

From wiki:
Deepfakes (a portmanteau of “deep learning” and “fake”) are synthetic media in which a person in an existing image or video is replaced with someone else’s likeness.
en.wikipedia.org

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:30:13pm

re: #110 wrenchwench

And, now I’m called in a little early. Happy Labor Day! (My first as a union member.)

A great day for it. Solidarity Forever.

Bread and Roses

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:32:14pm

re: #112 stpaulbear

Fill in the blanks

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:33:05pm

re: #112 stpaulbear

DOMINOS!

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:33:22pm

re: #112 stpaulbear

CANDY GRAM!

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stpaulbear  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:34:24pm

re: #110 wrenchwench

And, now I’m called in a little early. Happy Labor Day! (My first as a union member.)

Congrats! This is my first labor day in 15 years as a non-union member. I’ve been in unions off and on for 24 of my working years.

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:34:39pm

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

“Excuse me, is this your HAM SAMMICH?”

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:35:56pm

re: #116 nines09

DOMINOS!

If it is that’s what he probably meant: he just fell like dominoes.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:37:09pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:38:42pm

re: #79 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It would also not surprise me if Trump takes AF1 to Moscow on January 19, with figurative suitcases filled with cash, and stays there.

Don’t think that’s going to happen. Trump doesn’t make bold moves and he believes he can beat the system.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:41:04pm

re: #122 I Would Prefer Not To

Don’t think that’s going to happen. Trump doesn’t make bold moves and he believes he can beat the system.

Losing the election might the reality check that wakes him up. Though being the star of his criminal trial would appeal to him, if he believes he’ll beat the rap. The ratings would be yuge!

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nines09  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:44:07pm

re: #121 Dread Pirate Ron

Silence is also an answer isn’t it?

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:45:20pm

re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg

This is actually a thing: White Coat Hypertension

I have it too. Took me awhile to catch on. My BP would be high at my appointments but I had no symptoms associated with hypertension or any secondary health issues that affect my BP. Started getting much better readings once I bought a cuff I could use at home.

I focus on long slow deep breaths. Does a trick for me.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:45:41pm

re: #122 I Would Prefer Not To

Don’t think that’s going to happen. Trump doesn’t make bold moves and he believes he can beat the system.

Trump’s pretty good at cutting and running and blaming others.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:47:15pm

re: #125 BlueSpotinAL

I focus on long slow deep breaths. Does a trick for me.

I’ve had to tell myself that the blood pressure measurement is not a contest I have to win. It’s a piece of data for the doctor to use. The more I try to win, the higher it goes.

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dangerman  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:48:13pm

re: #21 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

1) I just saw a report on the polling that says his only majority now is white men without college educations.

2) …

based on that cbs/yougov poll this AM, Trump is slowly losing ground with white noncollege men. Biden does not generate the kind of antagonism among white noncollege men that Clinton (unfairly) did.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:49:23pm

re: #123 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Losing the election might the reality check that wakes him up. Though being the star of his criminal trial would appeal to him, if he believes he’ll beat the rap. The ratings would be yuge!

I also think there will be no trials for trump. Once the election is over and it is clear that he lost (what a loser) we are going to here rumors that he is under a lot of “stress” and steps down. Pence takes over until January.

Before inauguration day, trump is a complete basket case (caused by the Democrats) and can’t defend himself in court.

The good news is that his kids, his associates and his assets are fair game.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:51:16pm

Billy Bragg -There Is Power In A Union

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dangerman  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:51:31pm

re: #32 jaunte

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His last big heist.

like i said last thread so not a billionaire

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:52:16pm

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Warning: Violence (though very satisfying)

Heavy hands met a weak jaw. I knew that guy was going down fast just looking at his stance.

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dangerman  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:53:16pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

A week ago, I bought a home blood pressure monitor device. Today, I made it work. Blood pressure is within desired parameters. Now, it is. When I was unsuccessfully trying it, I think my pressure went up. No way to know, though.

was fox news on in the background by accident? //

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:54:02pm

I am currently relaxed, taking long, slow, deep breaths. Could be the 10 % alcohol trippel I just finished.

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danarchy  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:54:08pm

re: #108 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump will do anything, including destroying US mail.

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This just doesn’t make sense. Unless you actually want people to see it, why would you just dump it in a parking lot and not a dumpster or something?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:54:26pm

So… #TrumpMeltdown is trending. What’d he do this time?

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sagehen  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:54:52pm

re: #128 dangerman

based on that cbs/yougov poll this AM, Trump is slowly losing ground with white noncollege men. Biden does not generate the kind of antagonism among white noncollege men that Clinton (unfairly) did.

We already know Trump is polling very poorly with women — white and non-white, college or not. Is it possible some of those white non-college men are getting Lysistrata’d?

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dangerman  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:55:29pm

re: #59 bratwurst

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the poorly educated have no idea how education works, so it all must be a conspiratorial mystery

you know, like watching a magician saw a woman in half

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dangerman  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:56:44pm

re: #65 DodgerFan1988

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He’s not gonna take it anymore.

he graduated my high school, 2 years ahead

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 7, 2020 • 2:57:38pm

re: #137 sagehen

We already know Trump is polling very poorly with women — white and non-white, college or not. Is it possible some of those white non-college men are getting Lysistrata’d?

The military stuff is hitting Trump pretty hard. It goes deeper than the current generation and insulting family and ancestors is a way to lose support really quickly since you’re hitting at the foundation of everything they hold dear.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:01:18pm

re: #53 bratwurst

I can’t decide if we are more like the Gilded Age or the Fall of the Roman Empire myself.

The rapid COVID tests for Hamptons partygoers while essential workers roll the dice ever goddamn day speaks to the former…but a massive wildfire caused by gender reveal pyrotechnics makes a case for the later.

Al Franken had a good podcast this week with a historian of the fall of Rome: Douglas Boin: Alaric the Goth: and Outsider’s View of the Fall of Rome. Franken invited him apparently because he had read the book and was alarmed by the parallels of xenophobia, terrible wealth inequities, over expansion, etc.

amazon.com

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dangerman  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:04:42pm

re: #76 TarHellion

Not too worried about North Carolina when it comes to the voting process. The county election boards are controlled by Democrats, and absentee ballots already are being requested and mailed out. The NC elections director anticipates 50 percent of the vote will be by One-Stop Early Voting that begins October 15. Those early votes and the absentee votes will be totaled when the polls close at 7:30. The state director indicated as much as 80 percent of the vote could be known once those votes are tabulated.

I do have concern with FFVCS telling people to check their votes because these yahoos will overwhelm county election boards with demands to know proof of “where their vote is” and then try to vote twice. My county has 3 county election employees, and then a 5-member county board of elections (3-2 for Democrats). We have around 53,000 registered voters in the county, so I am hoping for a smooth process.

i’ve been thinking about this and what impact it could have

it’s gotta be on 11/3 otherwise what’s the point, right?
- a person would have to be able to and want to take the day off
- go to the polling place
- stand in line for however long in whatever weather before they even got to the front

if the lines are long this is no small inconvenience - just like we’ve been saying.
food, water, chairs, bathrooms etc

now you’re at the front of the line and you ‘hold it up’ for a couple of minutes. they look you up and say it’s here, or they say “here’s a provisional’ or whatever.

how many people really are going to want to and be able to do this?

as for the presidency, it’s gotta be R’s in D districts, right? otherwise what’s the point?

all this knowing that they themselves did in fact already vote

i dont see this as a massive effort happening

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dangerman  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:06:22pm

re: #79 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It would also not surprise me if Trump takes AF1 to Moscow on January 19, with figurative suitcases filled with cash, and stays there.

try and find a willing pilot then

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dangerman  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:08:32pm

re: #101 nines09

It’s real, and if your doctor or dentist doesn’t listen to you, GTFOT.
Trust me.

but they dont wear white coats //

(my mom’s had it for years. i’ve seen it. it’s real)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:09:26pm

re: #141 Barefoot Grin

Pretty sure that much can be learned from the Roman past, but all nations come and go and various scholars have tried to draw parallels to this or that.

Right now, the clearest mismanagement regarding nationhood, at least in the Anglo-sphere, is the UK, with Johnson whining about the deal he earlier agreed to do, and the hardliner Brexiteers determined to cut off their own noses.

I don’t know how much Irish nationalists in NI will cause problems for Johnson and the UK, but Mary McDonald put out a harshly worded statement about Johnson’s current idea of abandoning the “Irish Protocol”.

Brexit is what happens when clever politicians exploit the angst of a vocal minority (Brits who have angst over all the foreigners.)

Trump is worse in many ways, here, but the US benefits by being essential more diverse in resources, and extreme material wealth, which allows us to meander and not go hungry.

Eventually the Trumpers will die off, but their legacy will be one of causing the US to decrease in stature and non-material value.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:10:51pm

re: #142 dangerman

You’re right. However, I don’t think it’s about swarming the polls. It’s about making an example…or, more accurately, having examples be made of his supporters.

Three guys do it and get caught: “See! That proves how bad mail-in voting is! And if these people got caught, imagine how many THOSE people are sneaking in!”

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dangerman  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:12:15pm

re: #137 sagehen

We already know Trump is polling very poorly with women — white and non-white, college or not. Is it possible some of those white non-college men are getting Lysistrata’d?

if only…

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Jay C  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:14:08pm

re: #143 dangerman

try and find a willing pilot then

One of those extra “suitcases” will do…..

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:16:14pm

re: #145 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Pretty sure that much can be learned from the Roman past, but all nations come and go and various scholars have tried to draw parallels to this or that.

Right now, the clearest mismanagement regarding nationhood, at least in the Anglo-sphere, is the UK, with Johnson whining about the deal he earlier agreed to do, and the hardliner Brexiteers determined to cut off their own noses.

I don’t know how much Irish nationalists in NI will cause problems for Johnson and the UK, but Mary McDonald put out a harshly worded statement about Johnson’s current idea of abandoning the “Irish Protocol”.

Brexit is what happens when clever politicians exploit the angst of a vocal minority (Brits who have angst over all the foreigners.)

Trump is worse in many ways, here, but the US benefits by being essential more diverse in resources, and extreme material wealth, which allows us to meander and not go hungry.

Eventually the Trumpers will die off, but their legacy will be one of causing the US to decrease in stature and non-material value.

I should be fair to the scholar Franken interviewed. While he said that he couldn’t help but feel certain parallels, he didn’t push it. That was Franken’s agenda. Still, I learned a lot about Alaric the Goth!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:17:14pm

IMO Trump has nothing to lose by going even more sinister.

We saw the past week or so him order the Dept. of Educ. to change a policy in a very fascist way. It’s what he does.

As each day goes by and his campaign coffers are thin and polls suggest he’ll lose big, Trump will not sit still. Unless he really is having mini-strokes that keep him from being the same person day to day.

So I expect each week to bring even more hubris from Trump. His inside cronies will do what they need to prop him up.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:18:02pm

re: #145 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Eventually the Trumpers will die off, but their legacy will be one of causing the US to decrease in stature and non-material value.

The Trumpers are training new acolytes to the cult. We will be living with a residue of trumpism for a long time. Hopefully, a national climate that actively discourages such behavior will help keep them in check, but they’ll or the attitude will be present for a long time. Even if in hiding.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:19:29pm

re: #151 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The Trumpers are training new acolytes to the cult. We will be living with a residue of trumpism for a long time. Hopefully, a national climate that actively discourages such behavior will help keep them in check, but they’ll or the attitude will be present for a long time. Even if in hiding.

They’re being groomed in 4chan-type sites.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:21:48pm

24 hours ago, outside temp recorded at 118

Now a cool and refreshing 94…

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dangerman  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:22:13pm

re: #146 Sufficient unto the day…

You’re right. However, I don’t think it’s about swarming the polls. It’s about making an example…or, more accurately, having examples be made of his supporters.

Three guys do it and get caught: “See! That proves how bad mail-in voting is! And if these people got caught, imagine how many THOSE people are sneaking in!”

anyone who votes by mail, then is willing to go through all that on election day, actually ‘beat’ the system*, get in and vote in person (hence twice) and then agree to be used as ‘proof’ that there “must” be others is likely still going to jail.

at the very least will need a lawyer for a good long time - voting twice and likely perjury

all in sacrifice for DJT?
that’s some kind of loyalty

*and i still dont see them beating the system
- you can say you did mail in vote and want to revote (allowed in some places) - they find your absentee ballot and toss it
- you can say you did mail in vote and want to ‘check’. If they cant confirm, you get a provisional - also fine

- youd have to say ‘i didnt vote yet’, AND for some reason they actually didnt have your mail in status, AND then you vote in person. ie commit perjury

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:23:35pm

re: #154 dangerman

anyone who votes by mail, then is willing to go through all that on election day, actually ‘beat’ the system*, get in and vote in person (hence twice) and then agree to be used as ‘proof’ that there “must” be others is likely still going to jail.

at the very least will need a lawyer for a good long time - voting twice and likely perjury

all in sacrifice for DJT?
that’s some kind of loyalty

*and i still dont see them beating the system
- you can say you did mail in vote and want to revote (allowed in some places) - they find your absentee ballot and toss it
- you can say you did mail in vote and want to ‘check’. If they cant confirm, you get a provisional - also fine

- youd have to say ‘i didnt vote yet’, AND for some reason they actually didnt have your mail in status, AND then you vote in person. ie commit perjury

Remember—some of them drank bleach.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:27:20pm

re: #36 Dave In Austin

#BoogerGate.

[Embedded content]

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:30:37pm
158
mmmirele  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:31:44pm

I used up one of my clicks at the NYTimes this month because I wanted to see what was being said about Trump’s money issues.

I’m just going to cherry pick some things out of it.

Money was supposed to have been one of the great advantages of incumbency for President Trump, much as it was for President Barack Obama in 2012 and George W. Bush in 2004. After getting outspent in 2016, Mr. Trump filed for re-election on the day of his inauguration — earlier than any other modern president — betting that the head start would deliver him a decisive financial advantage this year.

It seemed to have worked. His rival, Joseph R. Biden Jr., was relatively broke when he emerged as the presumptive Democratic nominee this spring, and Mr. Trump and the Republican National Committee had a nearly $200 million cash advantage.

Five months later, Mr. Trump’s financial supremacy has evaporated. Of the $1.1 billon his campaign and the party raised from the beginning of 2019 through July, more than $800 million has already been spent. Now some people inside the campaign are forecasting what was once unthinkable: a cash crunch with less than 60 days until the election, according to Republican officials briefed on the matter.

*snip*

Under Mr. Parscale, more than $350 million — almost half of the $800 million spent — went to fund-raising operations, as no expense was spared in finding new donors online.

*snip*

Among the splashiest and perhaps most questionable purchase was for Super Bowl ads that cost $11 million — more than the campaign has spent on TV in some top battleground states — a vanity splurge that allowed Mr. Trump to match the billionaire Michael R. Bloomberg’s buy for the big game.

[now there have been cutbacks, including not sponsoring a Nascar car—$3 million—and spending $50 million on coalition groups. Plus no traveling for staff and other cuts.]

*snip*

Most visibly, the Trump campaign slashed its television spending in August, mostly abandoning the airwaves during the party conventions. In the last two weeks of the month, Mr. Biden’s campaign spent $35.9 million on television ads, compared with $4.8 million for Mr. Trump, according to data from Advertising Analytics.

*snip*

“The Biden campaign is hoarding money and hoping that fall TV ads help put them over the edge,” said Richard Walters, chief of staff for the R.N.C. “But when a state comes down to 10,700 votes like Michigan did in 2016, we think that direct voter contact — those millions of door knocks and phone calls we make each week — is going to be critical.”

[there is also a discussion of how $227 million was routed through one LLC, and how Parscale’s companies also benefited, also he swears he didn’t make money, nosirree.]

Since 2019, Mr. Trump, the R.N.C. and their shared committees have spent $145 million on costs related to direct mail, almost $42 million on digital list acquisition and rentals (to expand their list of email addresses) and tens of millions more in online advertising for new donors.

Just procuring the Trump paraphernalia that supporters buy costs a lot. Two firms that make campaign swag were paid more than $30 million combined since 2019.

At Mr. Trump’s direction, the party has taken a spare-no-expense approach to donor maintenance, with the R.N.C. spending more than $6 million in “donor mementos.” The spending has gone to stationary shops, the White House Historical Association ($538,000) and the Hershey Company, the chocolate-maker ($337,000), which cover costs for items such as the White House-branded M&Ms given away by administrations of both parties.

[but then there are the legal expenses and the costs of, for example, reserving a hotel near Jacksonville that cost $327,000 and the campaign isn’t getting that money back]

More at the link, if you’re inclined to give the NYTrump any clicks. nytimes.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:39:04pm

At least 25 degrees cooler here today than the past couple of days.

The reason? Mostly the sun is blocked - the sky has been a hazy gray-yellow.

For an obvious reason:

Image: G17-sector-psw-GEOCOLOR-36fr-20200907-1822.gif

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:41:36pm

Shocked…seeing no Trump ads on You Tube but I am seeing all of a sudden lots of ads for Joe and separate ad from Schumer for a Democratic Senate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:44:55pm

He’s still obsessed with the Atlantic story:

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retired cynic  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:45:46pm

h/t Juanita Jean’s

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:50:52pm

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

164
Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:53:53pm

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s still obsessed with the Atlantic story:

[Embedded content]

the same guy that got that $3 million mask contract.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:56:52pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 7, 2020 • 3:58:35pm

November-January he’s going full speed ahead with the “VOTER FRAUD!!! INVALID ELECTION!!!” bullshit. Expect him to hold on until the “investigations” are over, which he will attempt to extend indefinitely.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 7, 2020 • 4:02:45pm

re: #158 mmmirele

And all those “donor memento” items have Trump’s name all over them, so of course he wants any many of those churned out and given away as possible.

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dat_said  Sep 7, 2020 • 4:02:59pm

re: #158 mmmirele

Under Mr. Parscale, more than $350 million - almost half of the $800 million spent - went to fund-raising operations, as no expense was spared in finding new donors online.

I’d like to think that at least $14 of that was wasted on me. I occasionally click their online “polls” and fill out their surveys. I don’t recommend that for everyone but one of their latest wouldn’t make the parody cut at the Onion - Do you think President Trump’s performance at the Republican national convention was Awesome, Spectacular, Great, or Other? Do you think Sleepy Joe Biden’s performance at the Democratic National Convention was Wretched, Awful, Simply Bad, or Other? (Wish I could remember the exact phrasing, but this is close.)

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dell*nix  Sep 7, 2020 • 7:15:18pm

re: #148 Jay C

A red x in the forms that will take three days to find and a week to get the parts.


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