The Tallest Man on Earth: “Then I Won’t Sing No More” | When the Bird Sees the Solid Ground

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“Then I Won’t Sing No More” is the fifth episode of When The Bird Sees The Solid Ground, a project produced, written, directed, recorded, shot and edited by The Tallest Man on Earth.

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Lyrics:

Weʼre just a bird who fell to shore
no grace in how things end I know
but its true
some life does shine on through
will we slowly reappear,
little walks until weʼre new?

Now in some car
I drive too fast
outrace some memories, I guess
yes I know, but love just wonʼt let go
can I slowly disappear,
and drive like someone new?

Arms are hungry but they donʼt know
if you will come by here again
and the summer just whisper on
these sad songs must come to an end
itʼs my bird, I will let go
yes I know
And then I wonʼt sing no more

Weʼre just a pattern in the wild
we line right up and tell the times
to not change
how can we remain
when sun and showers reappear
and this is how we grow

Arms are hungry but they donʼt know
if you will come by here again
and the summer just whisper on
these sad songs must come to an end
itʼs my bird, I will let go
yes I know
And then I wonʼt sing no more

Weʼre just a bird who fell to shore
I love you dear.
be safe, you know?
Itʼs all true, life does shine on through
and these hours disappear
like the skies that we once knew

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238 comments
1
A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 7, 2020 • 8:52:21pm

FT & GOTV

2
BigPapa  Sep 7, 2020 • 9:22:04pm

Hair Fuhrer will attack Chuck Taylors tomorrow. I’m half thinking of buying a pair. They were bad for my feet but I didn’t have good sock game.

Beauty is pain.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 7, 2020 • 9:48:31pm

If trump is so anti war why are we spending so much on the military?

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William Lewis  Sep 7, 2020 • 9:51:40pm

re: #2 BigPapa

Hair Fuhrer will attack Chuck Taylors tomorrow. I’m half thinking of buying a pair. They were bad for my feet but I didn’t have good sock game.

Beauty is pain.

I have a pair in my amazon cart. Still trying to decide but they gotta be better than the cheap garbage from Walfart that I’ve been wearing.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2020 • 9:51:42pm

I just saw another Biden commercial, this time on the Food Network. It was different than the first one. I’m in Texas, the DFW area. And that’s two Biden ads to no Trump ads.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 7, 2020 • 9:55:19pm

re: #3 I Would Prefer Not To

If trump is so anti war why are we spending so much on the military?

Trump loves spending money on military hardware. Isn’t that the essence of the military-industrial complex? Has he ever proposed a reduction in the military budget?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:01:21pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:03:53pm

re: #3 I Would Prefer Not To

If trump is so anti war why are we spending so much on the military?

In all seriousness, Trump is antiwar in that he thinks we lose wars because we’re too merciful. He like soldiers that do war crimes; he think soldiers who try to fight according to the rules that constrain them are losers. Trump’s idea of how to do war good is what he’s quietly doing with increased drone strikes—kill more civilians and just never talk about it—and trying to offload military obligations onto PMCs that do evil shit but maintain a deniability gap.

The only thing checking his sadism is his cowardice, which is the other reason he’s “antiwar”—because he’s scared to pick a fight and then lose that fight.

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Belafon  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:17:04pm

And a third Biden ad. I think he’s got money and is going to spend it.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:23:43pm
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BigPapa  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:25:00pm

re: #9 Belafon

And a third Biden ad. I think he’s got money and is going to spend it.

Texas is still looking grim but after the last few days shows up in polling who knows.

Texas would ice that evil bastard.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:27:49pm

You fortunate travelers have on your overnight flight not one but two feature movies.

The first of your double feature is the classic Invitation to Hell .

Followed by the thought enticing Monday at 11:01A.M.

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piratedan  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:29:51pm

its not like the Biden campaign is rolling out big rallies that cost big bucks in venue costs, security overhead and travelling staff, so its going into bang for buck ads on channels that people who aren’t normally waist deep in politics, so I’m seeing Biden ads on Hulu/Netflix and even on Hallmark channel. Even the game show network…. the outreach is taking place via the media, since they don’t have the costs with a regular campaign. I suspect Biden is even helping with down ticket as much as he can, something I very much doubt Trump would be doing.

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piratedan  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:32:38pm

re: #11 BigPapa

last polling I saw outta Texas had it as Biden +3, but lets see if the trend continues across pollsters and time. Trumps allegedly pulled out of both Michigan and Arizona media markets as well. He’s running outta states to flip and unless there’s some serious voting chicanery afoot (and there may be), he’s looking like he’s in deep shit (where he deserves to be)

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BigPapa  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:50:33pm

re: #14 piratedan

It’s the time of year where I’m FiveThirtyEight daily. Showing TX still leaning R but it is very close, striking distance. Amazingly, same in GA and FL.
projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Jack Burton  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:53:52pm

re: #14 piratedan

One thing I’m wondering, is if his dementia-addled mind really understands the legal jeopardy he is in if he loses. I’ve heard a lot of people claim his biggest fear in losing is embarrassment.

Around the same time as the leak about McConnell supposedly cutting him off after Labor Day came out (around July 4th) I heard rumors of him thinking about dropping out of the race even then to avoid the “shame” of losing. It was already past the point where it was clear the military wasn’t thrilled with him and was not going to help him steal the election and his USPS shenanigans were well known. The post-impeachment pile of crimes was already Everest-sized. Yet he’s worried about looking like a chump.

Maybe he thinks he can bullshit or “settle out” of the legal pain locker headed his way. It was said in one of the recent books about him, that he asked if he could settle with Mueller like it was a civil law suit.

I actually can see him being that dumb.

17
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 7, 2020 • 10:55:39pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:26:35pm

Bringing up the 4th string players. Where would they be in another 4 years?

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sagehen  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:32:34pm

re: #18 Dread Pirate Ron

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Bringing up the 4th string players. Where would they be in another 4 years?

I remember this story from a few months ago; the generals bit their tongues rather than defend themselves to the CiC, but Tillerson isn’t and wasn’t military and he’s the one who blew up at Trump for it. This was shortly before Tillerson was fired.

So we can guess who one of the sources is for that story…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:32:43pm

re: #18 Dread Pirate Ron

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Bringing up the 4th string players. Where would they be in another 4 years?

In another 4 years the resistance would be able to form a rifle squad just from among his former Chiefs of Staff.

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Citizen K  Sep 7, 2020 • 11:46:52pm

This whole thread is just some bleak shit.

The Proud Boys et. al. are basically a sanctioned vigilante force with ‘arrests’ made only for fucking show. And chuds universally cheering it as if it was the surge of “Real Americans” protecting their “community”. They’re fucking every bit of the riotious and lethal thugs they claim BLM is, because of course it’s fucking projection.

I ‘m goddamn terrified of legitimate massacres happening at this rate.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 8, 2020 • 12:18:36am

High of 111.

Summer doesn’t end until the middle of October.

edited to add “the middle of”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 8, 2020 • 12:33:16am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 8, 2020 • 12:35:48am

re: #23 Dread Pirate Ron

Can I write off my daughter’s Masters in Education for the fact she’s doing it by online learning and teaching experience for her?

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joe90  Sep 8, 2020 • 1:00:22am

PM Ardern on the campaign trail.

Broxh gets a visit from Auntie Jacinda Ardern
stuff.co.nz

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 1:40:18am

re: #21 Citizen K

The Proud Boys et. al. are basically a sanctioned vigilante force with ‘arrests’ made only for fucking show. And chuds universally cheering it as if it was the surge of “Real Americans” protecting their “community”…
I ‘m goddamn terrified of legitimate massacres happening at this rate.

And this will be taking place at and around polling stations as well

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Targetpractice  Sep 8, 2020 • 2:18:30am

re: #23 Dread Pirate Ron

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The “skinny” bill is little more than a box-checking exercise, something that vulnerable Senate Repubs are gonna sell on the campaign trail as their trying to “help” their constituents but those mean Dems are standing in the way. All they’re doing now is trying to find the balance between all the extraneous bullshit that it will take to win 51 votes just so they can then force Schumer to push a cloture vote.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 8, 2020 • 3:09:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 3:11:45am

re: #28 Dread Pirate Ron

In a dictatorship, the state media tells you the sky is green. In a failing democracy, the free press tells you that one candidate says the sky is blue and the other candidate says the sky is green, without mentioning which is correct.

Just think back to reports on the photos of the inaugural crowds in 2017. That was a test balloon for failing-state democracy that went well for the side of the prevaricators…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 8, 2020 • 3:28:08am

Morning Lizardim from the cold and rainy wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this sleepy post-Labor Day first day of school?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 3:32:09am

re: #30 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim from the cold and rainy wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this sleepy post-Labor Day first day of school?

balms Indian summer here on the Rhine, got lots of work in for the upcoming Frankfurt Book Fair, the biggest in Europe. Due to Covid restrictions, they are running a reduced program and moving the bulk of it online, which means tons of work for their website.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 8, 2020 • 3:32:34am

re: #13 piratedan

its not like the Biden campaign is rolling out big rallies that cost big bucks in venue costs, security overhead and travelling staff, so its going into bang for buck ads on channels that people who aren’t normally waist deep in politics, so I’m seeing Biden ads on Hulu/Netflix and even on Hallmark channel. Even the game show network…. the outreach is taking place via the media, since they don’t have the costs with a regular campaign. I suspect Biden is even helping with down ticket as much as he can, something I very much doubt Trump would be doing.

Down ticket GOP are going to start running away from Trump in the next couple of weeks if he stays 10 points down to Biden as panic about going down the drain with Trump starts to enter their heads. Applies only to the cynical politician types who will also memory hole Trump in January anyways since they were on the train for the grift and power. The true believers are going down with the ship since they have the same fervor for MAGA as the Bernie Bros have for M4A and other such purity pony ideas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:01:05am

re: #32 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The true believers are going down with the ship since they have the same fervor for MAGA as the Bernie Bros have for M4A and other such purity pony ideas.

If I were someone who supported Trump over The Wall, I would be most annoyed at his lack of progress.

Ditto over ACA.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:03:05am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If I were someone who supported Trump over The Wall, I would be most annoyed at his lack of progress.

Ditto over ACA.

But isn’t The Wall simply the symbol of anti-immigrant policies, stances, and expressing hate towards minorities? And Trump has been delivering on that elsewhere.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:04:52am

re: #32 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

How can they run away from Trump when that would only result in them losing his base? Nope. They’re stuck with him.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:05:23am

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

balms Indian summer here on the Rhine, got lots of work in for the upcoming Frankfurt Book Fair, the biggest in Europe. Due to Covid restrictions, they are running a reduced program and moving the bulk of it online, which means tons of work for their website.

My mask is MIA this morning, and I am having an actual anxiety attack over it. Fuck this shit.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:13:53am

re: #35 Patricia Kayden

How can they run away from Trump when that would only result in them losing his base? Nope. They’re stuck with him.

Yes, that’s true. But panic does things to people.

And look how running away from Obama did little to save the Blue Dog Democrats beyond probably finishing their careers a little sooner than otherwise would have happened.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:14:12am

re: #36 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My mask is MIA this morning, and I am having an actual anxiety attack over it. Fuck this shit.

That’s one reason I ordered two when I got them.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:30:37am
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Mattand  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:35:15am

re: #37 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Yes, that’s true. But panic does things to people.

And look how running away from Obama did little to save the Blue Dog Democrats beyond probably finishing their careers a little sooner than otherwise would have happened.

Do those rocket scientists still exist as a political group?

I had an acquaintance who fit that mold perfectly: claimed to be a long time Democrat but constantly was backing Republican policies.

You know, “independent“.

We eventually stop speaking over Obamacare. I kept pushing back saying it was the best we could do all things considered, and he called me an idiot for supporting it. I think he had to buy coverage or his premiums went up because of it.

Thing is, this is a guy who was living in a McMansion: three car garage, cathedral ceiling living room in which a motor lowered the light fixture for cleaning, etc. The ACA isn’t perfect and I can understand being upset about having to fork over new medical premiums, but I always found it kind of gross for him to be King Blue Dog given the house he lives in.

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Mattand  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:38:47am

re: #40 Mattand

Almost forgot: he’s a mechanical engineer who dismisses the idea that UFOs are alien craft from other worlds.

Because they’re actually human time travelers FROM THE FUTURE.

I shit you not.

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Weaselone  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:42:05am

re: #41 Mattand

Almost forgot: he’s a mechanical engineer who dismisses the idea that UFOs are alien craft from other worlds.

Because they’re actually human time travelers FROM THE FUTURE.

I shit you not.

Sort of comforting if true given it means there will be humans in the future. A bit disconcerting in that they feel risking the stability of the timeline is worth figuring out what the fuck went on during this time period.

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ericblair  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:43:15am

re: #34 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

But isn’t The Wall simply the symbol of anti-immigrant policies, stances, and expressing hate towards minorities? And Trump has been delivering on that elsewhere.

It was never about the wall, it was about all the dirtbag racists we met along the way.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:44:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:46:46am

re: #34 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

But isn’t The Wall simply the symbol of anti-immigrant policies, stances, and expressing hate towards minorities? And Trump has been delivering on that elsewhere.

Of course, but had I actually though he was going to build one, I would be disappointed.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:56:26am

re: #41 Mattand

Almost forgot: he’s a mechanical engineer who dismisses the idea that UFOs are alien craft from other worlds.

Because they’re actually human time travelers FROM THE FUTURE.

I shit you not.

People’s blind spots on various issues are interesting and frightening at the same time.

I’ve had multiple coworkers (in IT especially) who are logical and rational about work and apply their brains thoroughly to the task at hand. Once outside of work their brains switch off and they are complete gooney birds on one or more issues.

And you learn pretty quickly what some of the “do not touch” issues are. Often revolving around something in their upbringing, education, or family.* Some traditions and learned things are not to be challenged and will be defended to the death.

* - This is the 3rd rail I think Trump has stepped on with his military dead being “suckers and losers” comments. He’s not insulting current people, he’s insulting family ancestors who proudly served their country.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 8, 2020 • 4:59:07am

We now have cat-cam!

Since I’ve got a pseudo-screen door the cat get pass through (magnetic curtain thing) and am often leaving the front door ajar during good weather I purchased a small remote camera so that I can monitor the front door area while I am upstairs on the computer. So I now have a defacto cat cam.

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Jay C  Sep 8, 2020 • 5:02:08am

re: #47 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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Since I’ve got a pseudo-screen door the cat get pass through (magnetic curtain thing) and am often leaving the front door ajar during good weather I purchased a small remote camera so that I can monitor the front door area while I am upstairs on the computer. So I now have a defacto cat cam.

It’s working quite well. That is most definitely a cat in that picture.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 8, 2020 • 5:18:12am

re: #47 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

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Since I’ve got a pseudo-screen door the cat get pass through (magnetic curtain thing) and am often leaving the front door ajar during good weather I purchased a small remote camera so that I can monitor the front door area while I am upstairs on the computer. So I now have a defacto cat cam.

Definitely needs moar cats! (three is my limit, or is it?!)

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Kilroy was here  Sep 8, 2020 • 5:23:28am

Radicalize

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 8, 2020 • 5:25:52am

re: #49 Shropshire Slasher

Definitely needs moar cats! (three is my limit, or is it?!)

I topped out at three*. Currently down to the one after two went over the Rainbow Bridge in quick succession in late June of this year. (Yes 2020, I think you suck.)

* - And more than two I discovered is a serious limit when apartment hunting. Pet friendly as an initial filter reduces the field, but many leases limit you to a max of two cats or one dog. And since I am giving some thought to changing residence location I am going to stay on one cat for the foreseeable future.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 8, 2020 • 5:37:11am

Science posts that should be shit-posting

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2020 • 5:38:35am

Paris Hilton is 39 years old. This is from an E! News notification I received this morning… She has a biography on TV somewhere coming up.

I repeat she’s 39 years old. This is a direct quote.

I still have nightmares about it. I wish I could bring, like, a camera into my dreams, and, like, show you what it’s like. It’s terrifying.

(Sorry, I’m looking for some escapist reading of late. FYI, this wasn’t it. 😁)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 5:53:30am

re: #52 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Some say the world will end in fire, some say it will end in ice

I say it will end in Colorado

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:02:40am

re: #30 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim from the cold and rainy wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this sleepy post-Labor Day first day of school?

The streak goes on. Until it doesn’t.

Today is day 151. I don’t whine, make up excuses, wish I wasn’t, etc. It still feels relatively easy and effortless to get up and run every morning.

Around 70 minutes and 7.5 miles.

I’m doing a comfortable more or less 50 miles a week right now.
Every third week, like this one, is a fall back week so a bit less.

Since I started recovery in late January, I’ve averaged 41 minutes a day -that includes non running days.
Running days only, it’s about 44 minutes a day.
This streak alone, it’s 53.

I’ve managed 90 minutes enough times that it’s no longer daunting; merely challenging.

My goal was an easy 10k a day with longer runs twice a week, and I’ve reached that.
Now I start to extend those longer runs and maybe focus on some pace work.

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mmmirele  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:02:56am

Julian Assange’s extradition hearing continues, with the threat that he may be removed from the court if he doesn’t stop his outbursts.

reuters.com

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jeffreyw  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:03:38am

Good morning!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:09:11am

re: #53 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Who?

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:11:16am

re: #53 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Paris Hilton is 39 years old. This is from an E! News notification I received this morning… She has a biography on TV somewhere coming up.

I repeat she’s 39 years old. This is a direct quote.

(Sorry, I’m looking for some escapist reading of late. FYI, this wasn’t it. 😁)

That’s hot.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:13:24am

Yet I keep hearing that Biden has to denounce “violence” by BLM and Antifa.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:15:23am

re: #59 Shropshire Slasher

That’s Hot

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:15:56am

Michael Cohen
Paul Manafort
Sam Patten
Rick Gates
George Papadopoulos
Roger Stone
et al, et al, et al

and now DeJoy

who knew that every word in “I am self funding and will hire the best people, not the biggest donors!” would be a lie.

- he did and does not ‘self fund’ - in fact the money flows the other way
- clearly not ‘the best’ people
- DeJoy, Sondland, even Manafort (in kind) were huge donors

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:19:03am

re: #21 Citizen K

Where was this?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:26:08am

re: #63 Belafon

Where was this?

Salem, Oregon

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Kilroy was here  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:27:06am

Big ad buy by Biden

Fresh Start | Joe Biden For President 2020

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:28:02am

These titles need to go away:

It just means she is overqualified.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:29:21am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:29:25am

Even if Trump loses the Proud Boys and their ilk will still be around.

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:33:15am

Ladies and gentlemen: the effing president of the effing united states

And crickets from the R’s, from the media from…..everyone, that he’s a gooney bird with a screw loose

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:34:43am

re: #68 Barefoot Grin

Even if Trump loses the Proud Boys and their ilk will still be around.

They were before. We just have to make it unacceptable for them to identify themselves in public. They need to go back to asking if anyone has seen Kyle.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:35:50am

re: #69 dangerman

Ladies and gentlemen: the effing president of the effing united states

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And crickets from the R’s, from the media from…..everyone, that he’s a gooney bird with a screw loose

It’s especially ridiculous given that Biden is promising to do a proper lockdown to get the virus under control.

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:37:07am

Ps
Shouldn’t we be seeing a bang up health care plan by now?
It’s been two weeks…like 4 times

Does everyone just forget he said these things?

I’d love biden ina a debate”wheres the health care plan you promised in July? It’s not like you’ve been busy on other state business”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:37:46am

re: #70 Belafon

They were before. We just have to make it unacceptable for them to identify themselves in public. They need to go back to asking if anyone has seen Kyle.

We should document them while they’re on the surface and bring them to Jesus over the next several years. Bring them hard.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:39:30am

re: #70 Belafon

They were before. We just have to make it unacceptable for them to identify themselves in public. They need to go back to asking if anyone has seen Kyle.

We’ll actually have a Justice department monitoring these assholes as opposed to an AG who thinks his job is to be Trump’s personal attorney.

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:39:57am

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:44:10am

re: #75 dangerman

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I’m pretty sure the answer is yes, even if you limit it to just the last six months.

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:46:47am

More than all the cases in germany for 6 months

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:48:43am

A new study concludes that the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally in South Dakota — which attracted nearly 500,000 motorcycle enthusiasts — generated public health costs of approximately $12.2 billion.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:49:11am

hi

I can’t stay, because my Internet service won’t last.

After three calls to CenturyLink, and two technicians allegedly sent to my house (they lied), the telephone company decided I need a new modem.

Wednesday last week they sent one by UPS Next Day Air. It’s supposed to arrive tomorrow. (I begged CenturyLink not to use UPS, but they don’t listen to their customers.)

Perhaps tomorrow if this thing comes my service will be straightened out.

Credit for my service being out for over a week? LOL. Take it up in arbitration if you have an issue. By the way, that’s in Delaware and you have to pay your own expense.

This is why a platform plank of “high speed Internet” is such a non-starter in places like this: There are no examples of Internet service which actually works and is a rip-off. All people see here is that, so the platform plank looks like the party is actively seeking to rip people off from their money. (I got my passbook savings account statement from the bank Saturday. We still use actual passbooks here.)

Someone switched off summer. Yesterday was an unusual day where we set both a record high and a record low (96°F and 48°F). Although the calendar still says “Summer,” we are under a winter weather advisory today and a freeze warning now. We had hail yesterday evening when the temperature dropped from the nineties to the forties in four hours. Yesterday my air conditioner was on, right now my heater is.

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:51:38am

re: #34 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

But isn’t The Wall simply the symbol of anti-immigrant policies, stances, and expressing hate towards minorities? And Trump has been delivering on that elsewhere.

The wall was a metaphor
He never intended to build it and his base knew it would never happen let alone mexico pay for it

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:53:02am

re: #80 dangerman

The wall was a metaphor
He never intended to build it and his base knew it would never happen let alone mexico pay for it

His base knew it was going to be built and Mexico would pay for it, but then they knew it was never going to be built and Mexico wouldn’t pay for it. And we’ve always been at war with NATO.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 8, 2020 • 6:55:58am

re: #42 Weaselone

Sort of comforting if true given it means there will be humans in the future. A bit disconcerting in that they feel risking the stability of the timeline is worth figuring out what the fuck went on during this time period.

There was an SF story about a time traveler who came back to circa 2000 to find out why America suddenly collapsed.

It was political extremism. An Earth First-type movement on the Left, an anti-drug movement (“Jasons”, meaning Just Say No) on the right; these people would screen you on the spot).

Although we don’t have dueling extremists outside of Twitter, we’ve learned that we only need 40% of the populace to go Reich for everything to collapse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:01:29am

re: #67 Belafon

1. With @ShaneGoldmacher, a deep look at how the Trump campaign spent money for the last 3.5 years, as some officials say cash-on-hand is going to be much less than it should be in the final stretch before September.

anyone working for or with the Trump campaign would be a fool not to insist on payment up front

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:01:59am

Feel good story.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:04:43am

We sometimes forget the role that conflicts and infighting between Axis partners and among the factions within the various Axis states contributed to their defeat in WW2…glad to see much of the same coming from Trump and the GOP.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:05:48am

re: #84 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Feel good story.

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They’re going to be killing each other on Election Night as the results come in.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:06:34am

re: #86 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They’re going to be killing each other on Election Night as the results come in.

I’m an optimist, but don’t get my hopes up that much.

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BigPapa  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:07:18am

Not sure if true, but wholly unsurprising.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:07:39am

re: #87 Belafon

I’m an optimist, but don’t get my hopes up that much.

Even in my most optimistic moments, I realize that things have to get worse before they can start getting better and I fear we have not seen rock bottom just yet…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:08:29am

re: #87 Belafon

I’m an optimist, but don’t get my hopes up that much.

Well there seems to be signs of some infighting already. Guys like Brad don’t really believe in Trump. If Trump looks to be dead in the water in November, he’s going to try to find a new gig. Maybe the Death Star needs a communication officer.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:09:28am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

anyone working for or with the Trump campaign would be a fool not to insist on payment up front

Lawyers are going to win big time since once this election is over a lot of people who gave lots of money to that campaign will be *really* interested what holes said money disappeared into. Both legal and civil.*

* - Plus I bet some not-quite-so-legal investigations will be started. Be careful who serves you tea.

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garzooma  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:10:19am

re: #88 BigPapa

Not sure if true, but wholly unsurprising.

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Assange lawyer Jennifer Robinson tells RN Breakfast she will testify personally that Assange was offered a pardon by the Trump administration if he agreed to state that Russia was not involved in document leaks.

Hasn’t Assange already said that it wasn’t Russia?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:13:59am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We sometimes forget the role that conflicts and infighting between Axis partners and among the factions within the various Axis states contributed to their defeat in WW2…glad to see much of the same coming from Trump and the GOP.

You mean like the total dysfunctional relationship between the Japanese Army and Navy?

Stories about that are legend in various military discussion areas. Not to mention the infighting within those services, including junior army officers assassinating other officers in the military and even a prime minister in the 1930s.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:17:16am

re: #86 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They’re going to be killing each other on Election Night as the results come in.

👍👍

I’d pay too watch that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:22:32am

re: #92 garzooma

Hasn’t Assange already said that it wasn’t Russia?

I think that was part of the deal for them letting him in…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:23:19am

re: #93 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

You mean like the total dysfunctional relationship between the Japanese Army and Navy?

Stories about that are legend in various military discussion areas. Not to mention the infighting within those services, including junior army officers assassinating other officers in the military and even a prime minister in the 1930s.

Yes, and Göring and Himmler fighting with the Wehrmacht over resources and recruits…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:23:40am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:24:17am

re: #84 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Feel good story.

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Who would have ever thought that putting a bunch of selfish, horrible people together on a campaign team would lead to this?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:24:33am

re: #94 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

👍👍

I’d pay too watch that.

If Trump’s rise was spectacular, his fall is gonna be even more so. I’m confident he’s going down. Where I worry is how we rebuild. The past four years have been trying but I’m confident in Biden-Harris, Dem leadership, & my local Dems.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:24:55am

re: #97 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I will have voted by November 1st, not that the vaccine would sway me. But a lot of people will have voted by then.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:25:36am

re: #99 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

If Trump’s rise was spectacular, his fall is gonna be even more so. I’m confident he’s going down. Where I worry is how we rebuild. The past four years have been trying but I’m confident in Biden-Harris, Dem leadership, & my local Dems.

I am getting more optimistic, but I’m not celebrating anything until all the votes are counted.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:25:54am

There’s a whole thread by Garland (still going). Fascinating. Thoughts? Read the whole thing.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:28:11am

BOKER TOV LIZARDIA!!

It’s 55° in the Motor City and it’s going to rain all day! Yesterday the high was 82°

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:28:34am

re: #86 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They’re going to be killing each other on Election Night as the results come in.

Brian Kemp stole the Georgia election. We have to be prepared for the likelihood that Trump, with the nationwide aid of Republican legislatures and the Supreme Court and his administration, will do the same for the presidential election this year. And if they succeed, there will be no going back. Look at the July SC ruling that supported the Florida poll tax to keep former felons from exercising their right of franchise.

In his memoir, Michael Cohen believes not that Trump is owned by Putin, but rather that he admires Putin and wants to be him — he wants the absolute power and wealth that Putin possesses. And with his adoring cult, Trump may succeed.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:29:24am

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

I am getting more optimistic, but I’m not celebrating anything until all the votes are counted.

Oh I’m not celebrating either but I do feel confident. I won’t rest easily until Biden takes the oath but I do feel better as we get closer to November and January.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:32:03am

re: #104 Hecuba’s daughter

Brian Kemp stole the Georgia election. We have to be prepared for the likelihood that Trump, with the nationwide aid of Republican legislatures and the Supreme Court and his administration, will do the same for the presidential election this year. And if they succeed, there will be no going back. Look at the July SC ruling that supported the Florida poll tax to keep former felons from exercising their right of franchise.

In his memoir, Michael Cohen believes not that Trump is owned by Putin, but rather that he admires Putin and wants to be him — he wants the absolute power and wealth that Putin possesses. And with his adoring cult, Trump may succeed.

Can I please please have some optimism? I know what the worst that can happen can happen. I was here in 2016. I’m still dealing with that but I do remain glass half full about beating Trump and I don’t need to be reminded of what the worst that can happen can happen because I’ve already lived it and I’m gonna be living the consequences of electing Trump 40 years from now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:33:09am

re: #106 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Can I please please have some optimism? I know what the worst that can happen can happen. I was here in 2016. I’m still dealing with that but I do remain glass half full about beating Trump and I don’t need to be reminded of what the worst that can happen can happen because I’ve already lived it and I’m gonna be lining the consequences of electing Trump 40 years from now.

This.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:33:31am

re: #104 Hecuba’s daughter

In his memoir, Michael Cohen believes not that Trump is owned by Putin, but rather that he admires Putin and wants to be him — he wants the absolute power and wealth that Putin possesses. And with his adoring cult, Trump may succeed.

Trump has nothing to lose at this point and I cannot imagine him shying away from illegal and unconstitutional acts to maintain power.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:39:18am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump has nothing to lose at this point and I cannot imagine him shying away from illegal and unconstitutional acts to maintain power.

Me neither. Why change now?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:41:12am

re: #107 Eclectic Cyborg

This.

We just need to look at where we are now. We’re beating him. It’s not over yet but I definitely feel like I’m in January 1945 versus January 1942,

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:41:25am

re: #102 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There’s a whole thread by Garland (still going). Fascinating. Thoughts? Read the whole thing.

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California will be called for Biden the moment polls close there. For the rest of us, we have to realize that there’s more than just getting Biden as many votes as we can. We have to overwhelm every attempt to make Trump “the winner” including the idea that he won on election night. If you can, vote in person early, or drop off your absentee vote directly at the voting office.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:46:42am

re: #111 Belafon

California will be called for Biden the moment polls close there. For the rest of us, we have to realize that there’s more than just getting Biden as many votes as we can. We have to overwhelm every attempt to make Trump “the winner” including the idea that he won on election night. If you can, vote in person early, or drop off your absentee vote directly at the voting office.

Wipe him out. Vote straight Dem ticket. Tell the Republican Party to fuck off.

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makeitstop  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:46:52am

re: #71 Belafon

It’s especially ridiculous given that Biden is promising to do a proper lockdown to get the virus under control.

And the Red Hats are screaming because they want everything opened up.

Wouldn’t that be a reason for them to vote Biden?

//

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lawhawk  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:47:08am

re: #52 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It’s a Song of Fire and Ice. /GRRM

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lawhawk  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:52:07am

re: #84 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

There’s reports that Trump is running into a cash crunch and that Trump might have to pony up money personally to infuse his campaign with $100 million.

Don’t buy the fact that Trump is going to put his own money up. 1) he doesn’t have cash available. 2) we know Trump promised to self-fund in 2016, and that lasted just a few weeks until he realized he could profit from running and all of his actions has been to grift GOPers who think a so called billionaire should get campaign funds to run his campaign that he profits by directing business to his businesses.

But what this does say is that Trump’s financials from August are awful. He’s blown through his so-called financial advantage and is now behind - and his new campaign manager is just blowing smoke while his old campaign manager tries to find excuses to direct money to his businesses.

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sagehen  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:59:07am

re: #92 garzooma

Hasn’t Assange already said that it wasn’t Russia?

You mean when he tried to pretend it was Seth Rich?

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makeitstop  Sep 8, 2020 • 7:59:52am

re: #115 lawhawk

There’s reports that Trump is running into a cash crunch and that Trump might have to pony up money personally to infuse his campaign with $100 million.

Probably just giving back the money he’s embezzled.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:00:57am

re: #111 Belafon

What we want is ten million more popular votes on Joe’s side. Not sure what that looks like in the ec. It would surely have to include Ohio. I think we have 150 to 160 million registered. Heck call it 100 million votes in all even at record %.

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plansbandc  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:03:08am

re: #75 dangerman

Daily.

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lawhawk  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:04:11am

re: #117 makeitstop

Laundering the money back into his businesses, since he directs his campaign to spend on his businesses in the first place.

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garzooma  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:04:25am

re: #116 sagehen

You mean when he tried to pretend it was Seth Rich?

From WaPo FactChecker:

Host Sean Hannity: “Can you say to the American people unequivocally that you did not get this information about the DNC, John Podesta’s emails — can you tell the American people 1,000 percent you did not get it from Russia … “
Julian Assange: “Yes.”
Hannity: “… or anybody associated with Russia?”
Assange: “We — we can say and we have said repeatedly … “
Hannity: “Right.”
Assange: “… over the last two months, that our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party.”

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:08:20am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Even in my most optimistic moments, I realize that things have to get worse before they can start getting better and I fear we have not seen rock bottom just yet…

Rock Bottom 11/4/20-1/20/21…

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Nojay UK  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:09:13am

re: #115 lawhawk

There’s reports that Trump is running into a cash crunch and that Trump might have to pony up money personally to infuse his campaign with $100 million.

One thing to note are the various small rallies President Trump is carrying out at airports with a VC-25 (aka Air Force One) in the background shots. As President he generally has the use of that plane and for security and Presidential reasons no-one in the Government is willing for him to fly in anything else — he’s still President even on the campaign trail and that means taking a complete Oval Office staff complement, the Football carrier, security teams etc. along with him and AF1 is the most convenient and secure way to do so.

However if he flies AF1 to an election campaign event his own campaign has to pay the Federal government for its use because it’s not a Government event. He can finagle that a bit, visiting factories and hospitals across the country and getting photo-ops and press coverage but anything with a campaign sign or flags visible, any sort of a speech to a crowd, anything that’s clearly party-political Republican, the funding comes out of his campaign’s pockets. That’s one reason he pushed so hard for the West Point graduation to be attended by the graduates, it was Government business and hence it was on the Government’s dime despite the obvious campaign rhetoric in his speech.

He like doing rallies a lot, he likes the testosterone from the crowds but it costs his campaign a lot of cash every time an AF1 flight is used for such events and you can bet they’re not cheap. That may be the reason there’s a growing hole in his campaign’s finances.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:12:37am

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

BOKER TOV LIZARDIA!!

It’s 55° in the Motor City and it’s going to rain all day! Yesterday the high was 82°

Wife’s daily high temperatures in Denver:

Sat 101
Sun 99
Mon 97
Tues 37

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:14:28am

re: #123 Nojay UK

One thing to note are the various small rallies President Trump is carrying out at airports with a VC-25 (aka Air Force One) in the background shots. As President he generally has the use of that plane and for security and Presidential reasons no-one in the Government is willing for him to fly in anything else — he’s still President even on the campaign trail and that means taking a complete Oval Office staff complement, the Football carrier, security teams etc. along with him and AF1 is the most convenient and secure way to do so.

However if he flies AF1 to an election campaign event his own campaign has to pay the Federal government for its use because it’s not a Government event. He can finagle that a bit, visiting factories and hospitals across the country and getting photo-ops and press coverage but anything with a campaign sign or flags visible, any sort of a speech to a crowd, anything that’s clearly party-political Republican, the funding comes out of his campaign’s pockets. That’s one reason he pushed so hard for the West Point graduation to be attended by the graduates, it was Government business and hence it was on the Government’s dime despite the obvious campaign rhetoric in his speech.

He like doing rallies a lot, he likes the testosterone from the crowds but it costs his campaign a lot of cash every time an AF1 flight is used for such events and you can bet they’re not cheap. That may be the reason there’s a growing hole in his campaign’s finances.

Yeah I think the cost of the rallies is catching up.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:14:33am

Is it just me, or did twitter just crash?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:15:20am

re: #123 Nojay UK

….
He like doing rallies a lot, he likes the testosterone from the crowds but it costs his campaign a lot of cash every time an AF1 flight is used for such events and you can bet they’re not cheap. That may be the reason there’s a growing hole in his campaign’s finances.

Are you sure that his campaign is actually paying for this? I would not be surprised if with the help of complicit federal officers, we taxpayers are paying for these rallies.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:16:00am

The second week of the free to the public MIT COVID19 course starts in 15 minutes.
web.mit.edu

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:17:56am

re: #118 Rightwingconspirator

Popular vote, yes. But we need the electoral college. If I recall correctly, Trump won by 70,000 electoral college votes in PA, MI and WI in 2016. I hope we don’t see that again.

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calochortus  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:18:24am

re: #124 Decatur Deb

Wife’s daily high temperatures in Denver:

Sat 101
Sun 99
Mon 97
Tues 37

Sounds about right. We lived in the Denver area for several years. It was, ummm, different.
Our power was out again yesterday for the third time in 2 days. It involved equipment overheating. (102° each day with a low of 80° overnight) In this case, the same 2 pieces of equipment twice each (one of our outages overlapped with the other.)
PG&E was wildly uninformative about what was happening despite the promise of updates. At leas it should be a bit cooler today.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:18:34am

re: #103 The Pie Overlord!

BOKER TOV LIZARDIA!!

It’s 55° in the Motor City and it’s going to rain all day! Yesterday the high was 82°

You guys are bunch of pikers. Here in Denver, it was 91 yesterday. Today, 34 with upwards of 6” of snow expected.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:19:13am

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

Popular vote, yes. But we need the electoral college. If I recall correctly, Trump won by 70,000 electoral college votes in PA, MI and WI in 2016. I hope we don’t see that again.

I think Biden is a better fit for the swing states that we need to win.

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Jay C  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:19:22am

re: #123 Nojay UK

One thing to note are the various small rallies President Trump is carrying out at airports with a VC-25 (aka Air Force One) in the background shots. As President he generally has the use of that plane and for security and Presidential reasons no-one in the Government is willing for him to fly in anything else — he’s still President even on the campaign trail and that means taking a complete Oval Office staff complement, the Football carrier, security teams etc. along with him and AF1 is the most convenient and secure way to do so.

However if he flies AF1 to an election campaign event his own campaign has to pay the Federal government for its use because it’s not a Government event. He can finagle that a bit, visiting factories and hospitals across the country and getting photo-ops and press coverage but anything with a campaign sign or flags visible, any sort of a speech to a crowd, anything that’s clearly party-political Republican, the funding comes out of his campaign’s pockets. That’s one reason he pushed so hard for the West Point graduation to be attended by the graduates, it was Government business and hence it was on the Government’s dime despite the obvious campaign rhetoric in his speech.

He like doing rallies a lot, he likes the testosterone from the crowds but it costs his campaign a lot of cash every time an AF1 flight is used for such events and you can bet they’re not cheap. That may be the reason there’s a growing hole in his campaign’s finances.

“HAS to pay”?
This is Donald Trump (and his campaign creatures) we’re talking about: Who is doing the billing here? Who is keeping the books? And WTF is following up to make sure said bills are properly paid, and when?
Who’s to say that the costs of AF1 - and yes, of course they are supposed to be reimbursed by the campaign - aren’t just going to be “misfiled”, and treated like any other Trump subcontractor invoice: ignored, contested, litigated, and (maybe) eventually settled for a dime on the dollar??

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:19:31am

re: #131 Mike Lamb

You guys are bunch of pikers. Here in Denver, it was 91 yesterday. Today, 34 with upwards of 6” of snow expected.

Yikes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:19:48am

Looks like my theory from the previous week about Putin imposing a maximum of 4,999 on number of reported coronavirus cases has not held up — it’s been hovering a little over 5,000 for the past few days. I still believe the numbers are all bogus and concealing a much higher case rate and death rate, but we may never know.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:20:03am

re: #123 Nojay UK

Do you honestly think he’s paying for that?

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:20:15am

re: #115 lawhawk

There’s reports that Trump is running into a cash crunch and that Trump might have to pony Putin’ up money personally to infuse his campaign with $100 million.

Fixed for truth.

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Interesting Times  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:22:15am

re: #137 BlueSpotinAL

Fixed for truth.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:26:58am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:28:04am

re: #139 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Alex Jones and his friends are terrorists.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:29:10am

re: #32 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

My Trump toadying senator wants to run for governor of PA.
In his 10 years in the Senate he has never once held an inperson town hall in or near Philadelphia.
I’m part of a local activist group that has protested at his Philly office for nearly 4 years running now.
We kept ALL the receipts.
Good luck winning without SE Pennsylvania, Toomey.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:29:31am

re: #57 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:34:01am

re: #141 cat-tikvah

My Trump toadying senator wants to run for governor of PA.
In his 10 years in the Senate he has never once held an inperson town hall in or near Philadelphia.
I’m part of a local activist group that has protested at his Philly office for nearly 4 years running now.
We kept ALL the receipts.
Good luck winning without SE Pennsylvania, Toomey.

Republicans are going to off themselves by continuing to shit on urban voters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:35:28am

re: #113 makeitstop

And the Red Hats are screaming because they want everything opened up.

Wouldn’t that be a reason for them to vote Biden?

//

He does not think these things through, does he?

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calochortus  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:36:36am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He does not think these things through, does he?

Think? He doesn’t do that.

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KGxvi  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:39:07am

re: #113 makeitstop

And the Red Hats are screaming because they want everything opened up.

Wouldn’t that be a reason for them to vote Biden?

//

Nah, they just don’t give a fuck anymore and just want everything “to go back to normal”… and if people die, well, they die, but at least they can get their watered down margarita and bloomin’ onion

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Nojay UK  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:39:16am

re: #127 Hecuba’s daughter

Are you sure that his campaign is actually paying for this?

They’re paying a share of the cost of AF1 operations, not the full nut because a lot of the personnel on-board are White House staffers, the Secret Service Presidential security teams etc. There’s probably a spreadsheet used by the Federal Electoral Commission to work out the costs and like I said there are a few ways to side-step the letter of the law but if it’s an event the campaign itself claims to be a rally and it looks like a rally and it’s signposted as a rally then the Federal government wants paying for its share of the costs.

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are flying around the country now totally on their own campaign’s dime. They will have SS protection now they’re major party candidates (Joe Biden probably had some SS coverage as a hangover from being VP to Obama but it’s likely to have been stepped up after he won the nomination) but there’s no government duties they can use to offset their expenses for appearances anywhere.

It’s a swings and roundabouts thing — President Trump can visit a factory or do a Rose Garden press conference and get coverage for his speech promoting his own campaign and putting down his opponents and it doesn’t cost his campaign anything because he’s the incumbent. The downside is that he can’t fly commercial or hire a cheap bizjet to get to a campaign meeting or a rally, again because he’s the incumbent and he will remain so until January 2021 (tabun). If his campaign doesn’t have the cash for him to fly AF1 Airlines then he’s stuck neck-deep in the DC swamp he promised to drain.

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aatharuv  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:39:32am

re: #139 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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“14 linked to child sex trafficking” and “88 linked to George Soros”? Are they trying to dog whistle at maximum volume?

Edit: Whoops. I reread the Daily Beast article — these numbers are _not_ from InfoWars. They’re from a _simulation_ of what would happen if Biden didn’t win by a landslide..

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aatharuv  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:40:44am

re: #147 Nojay UK

They’re paying a share of the cost of AF1 operations, not the full nut because a lot of the personnel on-board are White House staffers, the Secret Service Presidential security teams etc. There’s probably a spreadsheet used by the Federal Electoral Commission to work out the costs and like I said there are a few ways to side-step the letter of the law but if it’s an event the campaign itself claims to be a rally and it looks like a rally and it’s signposted as a rally then the Federal government wants paying for its share of the costs.

Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are flying around the country now totally on their own campaign’s dime. They will have SS protection now they’re major party candidates (Joe Biden probably had some SS coverage as a hangover from being VP to Obama but it’s likely to have been stepped up after he won the nomination) but there’s no government duties they can use to offset their expenses for appearances anywhere.

It’s a swings and roundabouts thing — President Trump can visit a factory or do a Rose Garden press conference and get coverage for his speech promoting his own campaign and putting down his opponents and it doesn’t cost his campaign anything because he’s the incumbent. The downside is that he can’t fly commercial or hire a cheap bizjet to get to a campaign meeting or a rally, again because he’s the incumbent and he will remain so until January 2021 (tabun). If his campaign doesn’t have the cash for him to fly AF1 Airlines then he’s stuck neck-deep in the DC swamp he promised to drain.

Former Vice Presidents get Secret Service coverage for 6 months, IIRC.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:41:26am

re: #141 cat-tikvah

My Trump toadying senator wants to run for governor of PA.
In his 10 years in the Senate he has never once held an inperson town hall in or near Philadelphia.
I’m part of a local activist group that has protested at his Philly office for nearly 4 years running now.
We kept ALL the receipts.
Good luck winning without SE Pennsylvania, Toomey.

Good. Hopefully the Democrats won’t shoot themselves in the foot and pick up his Senate seat.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:43:17am

re: #148 aatharuv

“14 linked to child sex trafficking” and “88 linked to George Soros”? Are they trying to dog whistle at maximum volume?

You got to hand it to the geniuses at the InfoWhores Brain Trust!

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:43:26am

re: #148 aatharuv

“14 linked to child sex trafficking” and “88 linked to George Soros”? Are they trying to dog whistle at maximum volume?

Someone should mention that to Stein.

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aatharuv  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:44:18am

re: #152 Belafon

Someone should mention that to Stein.

Looks like lots of people have already done so.

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NetworkKed  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:44:43am

So… there’s a lot of invective around here about believing that Trump will do anything to stay in power. And… I don’t agree.

Time after time after time, Trump has had chances to take provocative, violent military action on the world stage, and while he talks up the violence, he’s never given the go order.

Some of his actions this summer on the domestic scene have been heavy-handed, but when faced with real resistance he’s pulled back, turned turtle, and pointed at the protestors as the real bad guys.

The Trump admin has staked out position after position that’s against all law and reason, and when they get pushback well they’ll usually back down publically, and sometimes just continue to do the offensive thing behind the scenes.

And this is not new! Look at Trump behavior in all aspects of business and law over the last thirty years, and he’ll try to get away with everything, sometimes get called on it, and on the rare occasion settle it in court if someone really presses and has money to spend.

At no time is he willing to actually directly lead - someone always has to be the one signing off on the thing, so they can be sacrificed when the law comes. He tried to do that to the military this summer, and they told him no. Barr’s little cadre of bully-boys took up the cause in their place, but they had no numbers, no staying power, and while they did a lot of intimidation I’m not hearing of anyone who has actually been seriously charged or disappeared.

The danger is he inspires the deplorables to organize and mess up the election, not that he’s going to do anything competent about it himself. Really, what I see right now looks more like a team that knows it’s going to lose acting out to try to save self-respect. The Trump campaign is a bad junior-high production - “my opponent is so evil he’s going to sacrifice your parents to the devil in order to blow up the planet, vote me and we go to Disney World” sort of clownish nonsense, and it’s getting no traction.

Don’t worry. Watch and WORK and keep your powder dry. But don’t worry.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:47:02am

re: #154 NetworkKed

I’m of the opinion that while he’s crying that the election was rigged, he’s going to be looking for a place to run to where he can’t be prosecuted.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:47:27am

I had a dog that would say “hello” and “out”

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aatharuv  Sep 8, 2020 • 8:54:14am

re: #153 aatharuv

Looks like lots of people have already done so.

Woops, it looks like this was from a simulation of what would happen if Joe Biden didn’t win by a landslide, after rereading the linked article a little more clearly, by the Transition Integrity Project.

From The Left Secretly Preps for MAGA Violence After Election Day

But hardball tactics would bring more aggressive responses from the right. The simulation for a narrow Biden win saw a scenario in which “Infowars published a list of addresses, phone numbers, and other personal information of electors pledged to vote for Joe Biden.” The announcement “included spurious claims linking 88 of these electors to [George] Soros and 14 to child sex trafficking.”

Also see A Washington Post article by Rosa Brooks of the Transition Integrity Project

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makeitstop  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:01:31am

re: #148 aatharuv

“14 linked to child sex trafficking” and “88 linked to George Soros”? Are they trying to dog whistle at maximum volume?

That tweet needs context. From the article:

But hardball tactics would bring more aggressive responses from the right. The simulation for a narrow Biden win saw a scenario in which “Infowars published a list of addresses, phone numbers, and other personal information of electors pledged to vote for Joe Biden.” The announcement “included spurious claims linking 88 of these electors to [George] Soros and 14 to child sex trafficking.”

Key word: simulation. It has not actually happened, although I wouldn’t put it past them.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:02:37am
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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:03:27am

The best part of this is that it’s because of Trump’s actions over the last 3.5 years that will make it impossible for him to get any benefit:

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Kilroy was here  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:04:35am

VoteVets - POW

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:04:44am

So I geeked out instead of working this morning. If the polls are off by just 2% in Biden’s favor, Trump has a chance, which is why noone should take this election for granted.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:05:41am

re: #159 Belafon

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If he could talk about science without sounding like a person who never paid attention in science class, maybe people wouldn’t be skeptical. He’s going to try to rush the vaccine process because he’s desperate politically.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:05:57am

Being the introvert I am. I can live under these circumstances indefinitely. I can wait a year or 2 for the right vacs.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:09:15am

re: #162 NO SMOCKING GUN!

You’re mostly there, but you still can’t spread the lead over the remaining states.

So what happens if you remove the 7 from each end? What do the remaining 36 states look like?

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:16:57am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:17:50am

re: #165 Belafon

You’re mostly there, but you still can’t spread the lead over the remaining states.

So what happens if you remove the 7 from each end? What do the remaining 36 states look like?

That’s what I did. Biden has a 2% lead in the middle 36 states plus DC.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:18:43am

Fat Donny is again predicting the end of the world. Then “I’ll see you in Florida”.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:18:45am
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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:19:15am

re: #167 NO SMOCKING GUN!

That’s what I did. Biden has a 2% lead in the middle 36 states plus DC.

Thanks. I missed “also.”

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lawhawk  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:21:57am

re: #166 Belafon

Africa hasn’t lucked out with some miracle cure or immunity. They just had time to prepare for the outbreak, and several regions have dealt with ebola and other diseases so they know how to deal with contact tracing protocols and the like.

Some of this is also the result of travel patterns, as South Africa and Egypt (along with most of Northern Africa) have seen more cases than other countries and regions.

Data.

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:25:24am
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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:29:08am

re: #172 jaunte

It’s really all he knows. And some of Biden’s messages are like that, excpet Biden can use present tense verbs rather than future tense ones.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:30:27am

Llre: #173 Belafon

It’s really all he knows. And some of Biden’s messages are like that, excpet Biden can use present tense verbs rather than future tense ones.

Biden knows it’s a referendum on Trump.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:34:53am
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Florida Panhandler  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:35:38am

re: #160 Belafon

A Trump voter’s only real “Trust in government” exists pretty much as only relying on the government’ ability to propagate White Supremacy.

If a vaccine affects an election and the chance of White Power hucksters and the Trumpy politicians who promote it to keep power, most Trump voter anti-vaxx wackos will all of a sudden drop their schtick and get in line for the first doses available.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:36:28am

Watergirl is pushing for people to spend in Texas to win state House seats. If we could pull of taking control of even the state House, we could make big changes to the largest Republican state.

balloon-juice.com

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:36:33am

re: #175 Dave In Austin

“…Sanders dodged the question, instead promising that in her experience the president was a prince when it came to showering the troops with his love.”

I don’t think she has a sense of shame.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:36:38am

re: #166 Belafon

Many African countries have a fuckton of experience dealing with all kinds of diseases. Covid-19 isn’t a major shift for them, it’s just more of the same.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:37:02am

re: #148 aatharuv

“14 linked to child sex trafficking” and “88 linked to George Soros”? Are they trying to dog whistle at maximum volume?

Edit: Whoops. I reread the Daily Beast article — these numbers are _not_ from InfoWars. They’re from a _simulation_ of what would happen if Biden didn’t win by a landslide..

14 88… Where have I seen those before?

Could you explain the simulation thing? I can’t read the article.

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:37:55am

re: #176 Florida Panhandler

A Trump voter’s only real “Trust in government” exists pretty much as only relying on the government’ ability to propagate White Supremacy.

If a vaccine affects an election and the chance of White Power hucksters and the Trumpy politicians who promote it to keep power, most Trump voter anti-vaxx wackos will all of a sudden drop their schtick and get in line for the first doses available.

You’re assuming he has completely control over the Monster.

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:39:39am

Who wants four more years of failure?

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Belafon  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:47:15am

re: #182 jaunte

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Who wants four more years of failure?

“Look, we must create a new JCPOA, the Trump-JCPOA, or JCPOA2, which will be better than the original one.”

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:55:13am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

hi

I can’t stay, because my Internet service won’t last.

After three calls to CenturyLink, and two technicians allegedly sent to my house (they lied), the telephone company decided I need a new modem.

Wednesday last week they sent one by UPS Next Day Air. It’s supposed to arrive tomorrow. (I begged CenturyLink not to use UPS, but they don’t listen to their customers.)

Perhaps tomorrow if this thing comes my service will be straightened out.

Credit for my service being out for over a week? LOL. Take it up in arbitration if you have an issue. By the way, that’s in Delaware and you have to pay your own expense.

This is why a platform plank of “high speed Internet” is such a non-starter in places like this: There are no examples of Internet service which actually works and is a rip-off. All people see here is that, so the platform plank looks like the party is actively seeking to rip people off from their money. (I got my passbook savings account statement from the bank Saturday. We still use actual passbooks here.)

Someone switched off summer. Yesterday was an unusual day where we set both a record high and a record low (96°F and 48°F). Although the calendar still says “Summer,” we are under a winter weather advisory today and a freeze warning now. We had hail yesterday evening when the temperature dropped from the nineties to the forties in four hours. Yesterday my air conditioner was on, right now my heater is.

Just for shits and giggles, where do you hang your scythe?!

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Citizen K  Sep 8, 2020 • 9:56:43am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:07:42am

Off to vote in the primary. Nothing terribly consequential at this stage. I just made up my mind of governor candidate this morning. Either would be fine.

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:09:48am

re: #106 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Can I please please have some optimism? I know what the worst that can happen can happen. I was here in 2016. I’m still dealing with that but I do remain glass half full about beating Trump and I don’t need to be reminded of what the worst that can happen can happen because I’ve already lived it and I’m gonna be living the consequences of electing Trump 40 years from now.

how about this from today’s electoral-vote.com:

Some Democrats, doing their best Chicken Little impersonation, are deeply worried that Trump is successfully shifting the narrative away from his failures (specifically his failures on COVID-19). Frankly, we don’t see it. Trump has been playing the “buck stops anywhere but here” game for four years, and what has it gotten him? His approval ratings are steady (and consistently low). Joe Biden’s lead in the polls is steady (and consistently at or near 10 points nationally). We just don’t see what large group of people might be swayed by this week’s lies and propagandizing that weren’t already in Trump’s corner. So we don’t buy that the President is going to be able to change the narrative with a handful of tweets and a press conference or two. That said, your mileage may vary, so we pass it on nonetheless.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:10:14am

re: #184 Shropshire Slasher

Just for shits and giggles, where do you hang your scythe?!

I keep it in my shed.

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:14:47am

re: #129 Patricia Kayden

Popular vote, yes. But we need the electoral college. If I recall correctly, Trump won by 70,000 electoral college votes in PA, MI and WI in 2016. I hope we don’t see that again.

actually..70000 popular votes giving him all the EC’s of those three states

more electoral-vote.com today

Our database has 17 polls of Wisconsin released since Joe Biden became the presumptive Democratic nominee. Donald Trump has never led, never been tied, and came as close as 3 points only one time. (Z)

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Dave In Austin  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:15:20am
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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:17:50am

re: #154 NetworkKed

So… there’s a lot of invective around here about believing that Trump will do anything to stay in power. And… I don’t agree.

Time after time after time, Trump has had chances to take provocative, violent military action on the world stage, and while he talks up the violence, he’s never given the go order.

Some of his actions this summer on the domestic scene have been heavy-handed, but when faced with real resistance he’s pulled back, turned turtle, and pointed at the protestors as the real bad guys.

The Trump admin has staked out position after position that’s against all law and reason, and when they get pushback well they’ll usually back down publically, and sometimes just continue to do the offensive thing behind the scenes.

And this is not new! Look at Trump behavior in all aspects of business and law over the last thirty years, and he’ll try to get away with everything, sometimes get called on it, and on the rare occasion settle it in court if someone really presses and has money to spend.

At no time is he willing to actually directly lead - someone always has to be the one signing off on the thing, so they can be sacrificed when the law comes. He tried to do that to the military this summer, and they told him no. Barr’s little cadre of bully-boys took up the cause in their place, but they had no numbers, no staying power, and while they did a lot of intimidation I’m not hearing of anyone who has actually been seriously charged or disappeared.

The danger is he inspires the deplorables to organize and mess up the election, not that he’s going to do anything competent about it himself. Really, what I see right now looks more like a team that knows it’s going to lose acting out to try to save self-respect. The Trump campaign is a bad junior-high production - “my opponent is so evil he’s going to sacrifice your parents to the devil in order to blow up the planet, vote me and we go to Disney World” sort of clownish nonsense, and it’s getting no traction.

Don’t worry. Watch and WORK and keep your powder dry. But don’t worry.

trump, himself, is a coward. he’s proven that time and again.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:19:32am

I really hope Biden mentions the “Suckers and losers” thing in one of the debates. Hell, all of the debates maybe.

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:19:40am

re: #159 Belafon

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we all know the boy who cried wolf

after 20k+ lies (and everyone knows he lies) no one is gonna believe anything regarding a vaccine

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:22:20am

re: #192 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope Biden mentions the “Suckers and losers” thing in one of the debates. Hell, all of the debates maybe.

“As the proud father and nephew of a veteran, I know that our troops aren’t suckers or losers. They represent all of America, Mr. Trump.”

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makeitstop  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:26:15am

Geez.

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:29:24am

re: #195 makeitstop

It would be great if CNN reported this fully.

“…Melania Trump [ILLEGALLY] held her Republican National Convention speech from the Rose Garden in front of approximately 75 seated guests on August 25. For that event, the grass of the Rose Garden was too muddy to host an audience due to lack of drainage from heavy rain storms, thus a “turf” lawn was put down over the grass instead, a source with knowledge told CNN at the time.”

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Dave In Austin  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:32:22am

Ummmm……

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Jay C  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:33:56am

re: #195 makeitstop

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Geez.

OK: reading through that CNN piece, the situation becomes obvious: I recall that “poor drainage under the lawn” had been one of the problems leading the renovation project in the first place: what seems to have happened is that they were in such a hurry to get the Rose Garden “done” in time for Melania’s BFD “convention” speech, they just put some new sod patches down: which appears (surprise!) not to have done much about the drainage issue.
Not “Being Best” here…..

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Dave In Austin  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:34:21am

With Michael Cohen going on Rachel tonite I think it’s a given that he’ll become more unhinged as the day wears on. And prolly insufferable tonite.

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Jay C  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:34:27am

re: #196 jaunte

GMTA….

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:36:24am

Um, y’all?

I just glanced at electoral-vote.com and noticed something that hadn’t caught my eye before. I don’t know if it’s real or just the result of little to no polling, but Arkansas is now in the “barely R” column.

ARKANSAS.

(OK, I looked more closely and it’s one poll from June from a college I never heard of, showing Trump ahead 47-45.)

But still: Arkansas.

And we’re not even running a candidate against Tom Cotton, are we?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:38:31am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:38:33am

re: #201 i(m)p(each)sos

Um, y’all?

I just glanced at electoral-vote.com and noticed something that hadn’t caught my eye before. I don’t know if it’s real or just the result of little to no polling, but Arkansas is now in the “barely R” column.

ARKANSAS.

(OK, I looked more closely and it’s one poll from June from a college I never heard of, showing Trump ahead 47-45.)

But still: Arkansas.

And we’re not even running a candidate against Tom Cotton, are we?

Someone was running against Cotton but he had to drop out. Don’t know the Arkansas Democratic roster though.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:42:00am

I thought it was cloudy out but it’s just smoke.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:44:17am

re: #191 dangerman

trump, himself, is a coward. he’s proven that time and again.

But I think he’s got his base so hopped up on ragehol that Trump won’t actually have to do anything.

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BeachDem  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:50:19am

re: #195 makeitstop

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Geez.

I beg your pardon, I never promised you a rose garden…

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Jay C  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:50:23am

re: #203 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Someone was running against Cotton but he had to drop out. Don’t know the Arkansas Democratic roster though.

If recall the story correctly (a dubious likelihood, though), the AR primary was last year (!), but the (D) winner, for minimally-explained reasons, dropped out the day after the filing deadline had passed, so no, I don’t think there is an “official” (D) challenger to Cotton in the Senate race: though maybe an “independent” or write-in (?).

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jaunte  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:53:15am

And for sure he’ll stick with it for six months or so.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:53:48am

re: #207 Jay C

If recall the story correctly (a dubious likelihood, though), the AR primary was last year (!), but the (D) winner, for minimally-explained reasons, dropped out the day after the filing deadline had passed, so no, I don’t think there is an “official” (D) challenger to Cotton in the Senate race: though maybe an “independent” or write-in (?).

I’m not sure. I do wish we had someone running there because Cotton is awful.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:56:08am

re: #198 Jay C

OK: reading through that CNN piece, the situation becomes obvious: I recall that “poor drainage under the lawn” had been one of the problems leading the renovation project in the first place: what seems to have happened is that they were in such a hurry to get the Rose Garden “done” in time for Melania’s BFD “convention” speech, they just put some new sod patches down: which appears (surprise!) not to have done much about the drainage issue.
Not “Being Best” here…..

No worry, It’s other peoples money paying for it.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:56:36am

re: #208 jaunte

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And for sure he’ll stick with it for six months or so.

New polling makes Florida a dead heat. Fortunately, Biden can win without it, as he enjoys a solid lead in the upper MW, which gives him lots of ways to win if the race tightens.

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A Cranky One  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:57:03am

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:58:44am

Meanwhile, Brexit talks meander towards no deal, as I believe the final deadline is the end of the year, with no further opportunities to kick the can down the road. “The eighth round of the UK and EU’s post-Brexit deal talks begin” twitter.com

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lawhawk  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:58:57am

re: #197 Dave In Austin

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:59:10am

O_o

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 10:59:26am

re: #211 NO SMOCKING GUN!

New polling makes Florida a dead heat. Fortunately, Biden can win without it, as he enjoys a solid lead in the upper MW, which gives him lots of ways to win if the race tightens.

They’re sending Harris and her husband to Miami on Thursday too. Florida was and is always going to be tougher to reclaim for Biden than the upper MW IMO. I do think Biden ultimately wins it in the end but it’s not gonna be easy.

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lawhawk  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:01:05am

re: #199 Dave In Austin

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:01:09am

re: #216 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They’re sending Harris and her husband to Miami on Thursday too. Florida was and is always going to be tougher to reclaim for Biden than the upper MW IMO. I do think Biden ultimately wins it in the end but it’s not gonna be easy.

Florida always seens to be very close. If Trump has money problems, make him play all over the board, including Texas and Ohio.

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stpaulbear  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:02:07am

re: #186 Barefoot Grin

Off to vote in the primary. Nothing terribly consequential at this stage. I just made up my mind of governor candidate this morning. Either would be fine.

MN early voting starts in about a week. I’m going to skip the first day, but I’ll vote at the elections office before the end of September.

I called the Ramsey County elections office today just to get their opinion on using the ballot application that I received in the mail from a 501 org. The clerk knew about it and verified that it would be perfectly OK to present it in person to receive my early voting ballot at the voting station.

I think that these 501 ballot applications have prompted some legal challenges in Iowa, which is why I called the elections office today. If I was voting somewhere else, I probably wouldn’t use it. I’m just trying to avoid using USPS as much as possible for the rest of this year.

Edit: I still haven’t received the Biden/Harris bumper stickers that were shipped about two weeks ago.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:02:10am

re: #217 lawhawk

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Figures.

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wrenchwench  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:03:15am

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

WH Chief Meadows Suggests Probe Of DeJoy’s Alleged Straw Donor Scheme Is Aimed At Trump

All good investigations point towards and work towards the top.

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Jay C  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:03:32am

re: #211 NO SMOCKING GUN!

New polling makes Florida a dead heat. Fortunately, Biden can win without it, as he enjoys a solid lead in the upper MW, which gives him lots of ways to win if the race tightens.

IMO, that’s not good news at all from the Dem standpoint: while Joe/Kamala can win without Florida’s 29 EVs, if they take FL, it pretty much ensures that Trump/Pence CAN’T.
At least by my count: yeah, sweeping the Upper MW (and PA) may provide a good (D) lead, but winning FL puts the deal away - ON ELECTION NIGHT.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:04:56am
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makeitstop  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:05:30am

The Project Lincoln Veterans Affairs guy is a pretty sharp analyst. Thread, by Fred.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:06:08am

re: #222 Jay C

IMO, that’s not good news at all from the Dem standpoint: while Joe/Kamala can win without Florida’s 29 EVs, if they win FL, it pretty much ensures that Trump/Pence CAN’T.
At least by my count: yeah, sweeping the Upper MW (and PA) may provide a good (D) lead, but winning FL puts the deal away - ON ELECTION NIGHT.

Obviously, I’m hoping its a landslide with an early call. But it may not be.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:06:50am

re: #222 Jay C

IMO, that’s not good news at all from the Dem standpoint: while Joe/Kamala can win without Florida’s 29 EVs, if they win FL, it pretty much ensures that Trump/Pence CAN’T.
At least by my count: yeah, sweeping the Upper MW (and PA) may provide a good (D) lead, but winning FL puts the deal away - ON ELECTION NIGHT.

Watch for some DeSantis led screwiness to try and swing Florida in favor of Trump.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:08:52am

re: #226 Eclectic Cyborg

Watch for some DeSantis led screwiness to try and swing Florida in favor of Trump.

You can be sure that in many states there will be massive lines in urban districts with hours long waits.

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NetworkKed  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:10:21am

Eh, one poll in Florida that shows it’s even. Running the week of the RNC bump.

Meanwhile Ras (!) shows Biden up 4 in Ohio.

Not worried yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:10:38am
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NetworkKed  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:11:41am

PICKLES ARE OVERRATED. And maybe elitist.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:11:49am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:11:57am

re: #228 NetworkKed

Eh, one poll in Florida that shows it’s even. Running the week of the RNC bump.

Meanwhile Ras (!) shows Biden up 4 in Ohio.

Not worried yet.

We also haven’t seen many post Atlantic polls yet either.

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:15:02am

re: #178 jaunte

I don’t think she has a sense of shame.

She very carefully did not say “he never said any of that”

“…Sanders dodged the question, instead promising that in her experience the president was a prince when it came to showering the troops with his love.”

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lawhawk  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:15:03am

re: #224 makeitstop

Wellman’s right.

Wellman also doesn’t mention that Trump massively increased spending on military gear and equipment which is used to fight wars after claiming Obama didn’t even leave ammo for the troops to use.

Trump has lied about absolutely everything, including military spending and appropriations. Trump took money appropriated for rebuilding bases and infrastructure damaged by hurricanes and reallocated it illegally for his boondoggle wall. Trump took troops from other missions and directed them to the wall. He has misallocated and misrepresented everything he does around the military and it’s coming back to bite him bigly.

Trump’s left us worse off, even counting for the increased spending. There’s a vacuum of leadership, and it starts with Trump.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:15:43am

re: #233 dangerman

She very carefully did not say “he never said any of that”

“…Sanders dodged the question, instead promising that in her experience the president was a prince when it came to showering the troops with his love.”

That they always resort to hyperbole to me shows the lies.

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dangerman  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:16:19am

re: #194 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

“As the proud father and nephew of a veteran, I know that our troops aren’t suckers or losers. They represent all of America, Mr. Trump.”

… As I will

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William Lewis  Sep 8, 2020 • 11:26:49am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Should be a short stack of sweet pickle slices… < whistles innocently >

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cat-tikvah  Sep 8, 2020 • 12:08:16pm

re: #150 🌹UOJB!

Watch Lou “Dangerous Illegals Rampaging” Barletta run again.
Bleah.


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