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piratedan  Sep 10, 2020 • 10:06:40pm

may our esteemed President get everything he deserves….

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 10, 2020 • 10:07:12pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 10, 2020 • 10:19:11pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 10, 2020 • 10:24:47pm

From a satellite IR shortwave image, I inverted it to make more clear the hotspots. Doing so brings out the detail that you can see how the fires spread from their perimeters:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 10, 2020 • 10:27:53pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 10, 2020 • 10:32:18pm

re: #5 Dread Pirate Ron

Collins is an Evangelical, though not really a fundamentalist. He has a problem recognizing that his fundamentalist brethren are in full denial of reality. This I find frustrating, because Collins knows this stuff (which is why he tries to convince fundamentalists that evolution is real.)

The religious right and hate-right are a death cult. They have no future, do not want a future, and are the expression of nihilism here in the early 21st century.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 10, 2020 • 10:32:53pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2020 • 10:38:44pm

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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This is the guy that Berners think is gonna dominate the debates while Biden looks lost and senile.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 10, 2020 • 10:44:10pm

Recent post-Christian Jon Steingard asks:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 10, 2020 • 10:46:44pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:08:45pm

re: #6 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Collins is an Evangelical, though not really a fundamentalist. He has a problem recognizing that his fundamentalist brethren are in full denial of reality. This I find frustrating, because Collins knows this stuff (which is why he tries to convince fundamentalists that evolution is real.)

The religious right and hate-right are a death cult. They have no future, do not want a future, and are the expression of nihilism here in the early 21st century.

Isn’t Jimmy Carter an evangelical too? So a few do support the modern world and do not belong to the fundamentalist strain.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:11:40pm

re: #11 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t Jimmy Carter an evangelical too? So a few do support the modern world and do not belong to the fundamentalist strain.

And Jimmy Carter is hated by the Trumpers.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:12:08pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:14:30pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:14:30pm
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William Lewis  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:16:20pm

re: #11 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t Jimmy Carter an evangelical too? So a few do support the modern world and do not belong to the fundamentalist strain.

Jimmy, for his other flaws, is actually a Christian. That tends to be a real problem for evangelicals because they want to pretend that their fantasy of power is what really reflects Christianity. Jimmy will always be the reality unlike them.

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:17:24pm

re: #14 Dread Pirate Ron

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It’s funny how the people who squeal the loudest about investigators having “too much power”…are the people who are constantly under investigation.

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EPR-radar  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:26:40pm

re: #16 William Lewis

Jimmy, for his other flaws, is actually a Christian. That tends to be a real problem for evangelicals because they want to pretend that their fantasy of power is what really reflects Christianity. Jimmy will always be the reality unlike them.

Which is most of the reason why the religious right hates Carter so much.

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EPR-radar  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:28:54pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

It’s funny how the people who squeal the loudest about investigators having “too much power”…are the people who are constantly under investigation.

There really needs to be a Biden day 1 executive order that is an omnibus reversal of every single thing Trump did on his own via executive power.

Of course my wish list also includes the mass impeachment of every wingnut judge Trump put into the judiciary, but I know that’s impossible.

At least the executive side is possible.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:36:17pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:40:09pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:40:58pm

re: #19 EPR-radar

There really needs to be a Biden day 1 executive order that is an omnibus reversal of every single thing Trump did on his own via executive power.

Of course my wish list also includes the mass impeachment of every wingnut judge Trump put into the judiciary, but I know that’s impossible.

At least the executive side is possible.

Someone did point out that most of the wingnut judges met ABA standards. Only a few lacked the experience or credentials to be appointed. This is what happens when Republicans get elected — wingnuts all the way.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:51:50pm

An interesting tidbit of news:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:52:47pm

re: #23 Dr Lizardo

People still buy music CDs??

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 10, 2020 • 11:56:05pm

re: #24 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

People still buy music CDs??

Apparently so. I only know a few people with stand-alone CD players, but I do know a lot of people here with turntables.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:08:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:24:03am

re: #17 Targetpractice

It’s funny how the people who squeal the loudest about investigators having “too much power”…are the people who are constantly under investigation.

or the ones calling the loudest for Hillary or Obama or Biden to be investigated…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:25:10am

re: #25 Dr Lizardo

Apparently so. I only know a few people with stand-alone CD players, but I do know a lot of people here with turntables.

point is that a downloaded CD is identical with a physical one except in terms of space, but there is no equivalent for real vinyl.

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Jack Burton  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:29:07am

re: #13 Dread Pirate Ron

Why are there a bunch of racists assholes fans there at all? I thought the NFL was going crowdless for COVID for the time being.

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Jack Burton  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:35:08am

re: #19 EPR-radar

There really needs to be a Biden day 1 executive order that is an omnibus reversal of every single thing Trump did on his own via executive power.

I believe I read somewhere that such a thing wouldn’t be legal. He may very well have to go through every one of them one by one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 12:46:54am

re: #30 Jack Burton

I believe I read somewhere that such a thing wouldn’t be legal. He may very well have to go through every one of them one by one.

whatever it takes

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:21:19am

Amazing that word s mean what we all knew they meant

A federal court on Thursday blocked a memorandum signed by President Trump seeking to exclude undocumented immigrants from being counted in the census for apportionment, saying such action would violate the statute governing congressional apportionment,” the Washington Post reports.

“A special three-judge panel out of New York wrote that the president’s argument that undocumented immigrants should not be counted runs afoul of a statute saying apportionment must be based on everyone who is a resident of the United States. The judges found that all residents must be counted for apportionment purposes regardless of their legal status.”

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:23:56am

re: #5 Dread Pirate Ron

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Plain as day for anyone to see
Health decisions based on party affiliation

NIH director, responding to images of packed Trump rally tonight of most not wearing masks, says “it just deeply puzzles me” that some people aren’t wearing masks because of their political party. Says he’s “rather disheartened” that something “so straightforward can get twisted

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:24:48am

re: #33 dangerman

Plain as day for anyone to see
Health decisions based on party affiliation

and the ideology that a party embraces, namely that Covid is a hoax

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:30:53am

re: #17 Targetpractice

It’s funny how the people who squeal the loudest about investigators having “too much power”…are the people who are constantly under investigation.

No matter how many crimes you committed well only investigate one

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:32:47am

re: #21 Dread Pirate Ron

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I do wish he’d start to say “when” I’m president
I know it’s presumtive
This is selling. It’s allowed

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:36:18am

re: #23 Dr Lizardo

An interesting tidbit of news:

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Just this week I sold my entire vinyl collection to a local used record store.
I digitized everything years ago. Took a long time. They’ve been sitting in boxes ever since.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:38:50am

Checking in from Brookings, OR…

This was the sun here Thursday afternoon:

Not so pretty in pink…

and the smoke got so heavy that it completely disappeared about an hour later. A light layer of ash has fallen for the last two days (and is still falling). The nearest fire to us is the Slater Fire near the Cal/Ore border and Highway 199. That one is at 120,000 acres and is 0% contained. They’ve evacuated the Gasquet area and the Hiouchi area is on alert to leave at a moments notice. Looking at the satellite imagery it looks like western Oregon is nothing but fire and smoke. The air here makes you gag at times and our HEPA air filters are working overtime to keep things breathable at home.

The stupid rural fucks are spreading fake news that Antifa/BLM are starting the fires, which means that they need to grab their guns, head out and threaten random people that they see in their area. Oh, and flood the 911 call centers asking about Antifa arsonists that had been arrested (no, none have been arrested).

That’s our Trump supporters here, pig-ignorant and proud of it. I am so fucking sick of 2020…

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:40:55am

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

point is that a downloaded CD is identical with a physical one except in terms of space, but there is no equivalent for real vinyl.

Hanging out playing vinyl through stereo speakers was far more social and interactive than putting in ear buds and pressing shuffle.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:41:40am

re: #30 Jack Burton

I believe I read somewhere that such a thing wouldn’t be legal. He may very well have to go through every one of them one by one.

Print the stack then Autopen

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 11, 2020 • 1:45:16am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:04:02am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:08:28am

Heh.

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ericblair  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:30:27am

re: #30 Jack Burton

I believe I read somewhere that such a thing wouldn’t be legal. He may very well have to go through every one of them one by one.

I would think that the first pass would be to formally invalidate any executive orders that had been issued illegally. Considering the chaos and contempt for any sort of process from the current squatters in the White House, this should take care of a lot of them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:28:00am

re: #36 dangerman

I do wish he’d start to say “when” I’m president?
I know it’s presumtive
This is selling. It’s allowed

It would be spun as proof that they plan to steal the election…

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:29:12am

our president is an uninformed, ignorant, idiot who had no idea who woodward was or what he did to another president

New York Times: “Mr. Trump called Mr. Woodward at night when aides presumably were not around. He gave Mr. Woodward a phone number so that the author could call in and leave a message to have him call back without going through the elaborate bureaucracy that a presidential interview involves in a normal White House. Altogether, they talked 17 times before the book was finished and then an 18th time after the draft was done but before it went to press.”

“Mr. Trump called once more on Aug. 14, for a 19th conversation, hoping to persuade Mr. Woodward to include the recently brokered diplomatic breakthrough with Israel and the United Arab Emirates, but it was too late to update the book by that point.”

To Mr. Trump, Mr. Woodward is an exemplar of the Washington establishment the president believes has never respected him. He seemed excited to be talking with him. At one point, according to the book, when Melania Trump walked in, the president boasted, ‘Honey, I’m talking to Bob Woodward.’”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:30:03am

re: #44 ericblair

I would think that the first pass would be to formally invalidate any executive orders that had been issued illegally. Considering the chaos and contempt for any sort of process from the current squatters in the White House, this should take care of a lot of them.

simply instruct the agencies to revoke any administrative changes put in place as a result of such orders, which were generally very vague and easy to work around or ignore in the first place

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:51:40am

re: #4 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

From a satellite IR shortwave image, I inverted it to make more clear the hotspots. Doing so brings out the detail that you can see how the fires spread from their perimeters:

The pattern looks like an outbreak of ringworm. Same math, I guess.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 3:56:40am

re: #44 ericblair

I would think that the first pass would be to formally invalidate any executive orders that had been issued illegally. Considering the chaos and contempt for any sort of process from the current squatters in the White House, this should take care of a lot of them.

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

simply instruct the agencies to revoke any administrative changes put in place as a result of such orders, which were generally very vague and easy to work around or ignore in the first place

By their nature, Executive Orders are mundane bureaucratic tools, changed and retired routinely as need arises. It’s only in the Obama and Trump administrations, where they were used to expand presidential power, that they’ve become even notable outside the Executive Branch.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:14:48am

re: #38 Odie Hugh Manatee

Checking in from Brookings, OR…

This was the sun here Thursday afternoon:

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and the smoke got so heavy that it completely disappeared about an hour later. A light layer of ash has fallen for the last two days (and is still falling). The nearest fire to us is the Slater Fire near the Cal/Ore border and Highway 199. That one is at 120,000 acres and is 0% contained. They’ve evacuated the Gasquet area and the Hiouchi area is on alert to leave at a moments notice. Looking at the satellite imagery it looks like western Oregon is nothing but fire and smoke. The air here makes you gag at times and our HEPA air filters are working overtime to keep things breathable at home.

The stupid rural fucks are spreading fake news that Antifa/BLM are starting the fires, which means that they need to grab their guns, head out and threaten random people that they see in their area. Oh, and flood the 911 call centers asking about Antifa arsonists that had been arrested (no, none have been arrested).

That’s our Trump supporters here, pig-ignorant and proud of it. I am so fucking sick of 2020…

Who knew there would be so many gender reveal parties?!
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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:19:46am
Amid a pandemic, economic woes and a raging campaign season, as well as nationwide and too-often-violent protests, New Yorkers, and all Americans, should still take the time Friday to mark the 9/11 anniversary. The events of 19 years ago remain of seminal importance — and the sacrifices and heroism deserve honoring.

On that day in 2001, Gothamites were also preoccupied — headed to the polls for the mayoral primary. Then the planes started hitting.

One hit the North Tower, and newsies rushed to cover what seemed an accident. Then came the strike on the South Tower — and a nation realized it was under attack. The hit on the Pentagon added to the fear and confusion.

Then the fourth plane crashed in Pennsylvania — and America soon began to learn of how brave passengers stormed the cockpit to retake control of the flight, frustrating the terrorists at the cost of all aboard.

How many heroes the day saw:

Frank De Martini, an architect, and his colleagues Pablo Ortiz, Pete Negron and Carlos da Costa cleared an entrance and helped workers from the 89th floor of the North Tower. They saved 50 lives — though they themselves perished.
Equities trader Welles Crowther, 24, a volunteer firefighter in his teens, helped strangers at the 78th-floor sky lobby escape, even carrying an injured woman on his back 15 floors — then went back up to help others. He was later found dead along with several FDNY members.
Firefighter Stephen Siller of Brooklyn’s Squad 1 had just finished his shift when he heard news of the attack. He suited up and arrived at the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, but it was already closed. So, wearing 60 lbs. of gear on his back, he raced through by foot — and wound up giving his life as he saved others.
In all, 343 of New York’s Bravest perished after rushing into the burning towers.

The attacks killed nearly 3,000 innocents, the worst on US soil ever. Downtown remained a wasteland for weeks, as more heroes streamed in from all over to help in the rescue and recovery.

there’s more:
nypost.com

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:23:23am

re: #50 Shropshire Slasher

Who knew there would be so many gender reveal parties?!
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I think it’s extraterrestrial aliens that are starting them.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:24:13am

re: #52 Eventual Carrion

I think it’s extraterrestrial aliens that are starting them.

Time travelers.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:28:59am

John Daly (grip it and rip it) revealed he has bladder cancer. A friend of the family was diagnosed with that and lasted 8 weeks. Sucks to get old.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:31:26am

re: #54 Shropshire Slasher

John Daly (grip it and rip it) revealed he has bladder cancer. A friend of the family was diagnosed with that and lasted 8 weeks. Sucks to get old.

I understood that John could knock them back as well as knock them down the fairway.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:38:29am

re: #51 Shropshire Slasher

I was just unlocking the door to my apartment in Prague when my ex-wife (girlfriend at the time) called me and asked where I was. She then said, “You’d better turn on the TV - something really bad looks to be happening in New York City.”

I turned on the TV to ČT1 and they were carrying a live feed from BBC. And just in time to see the South Tower hit by United #175. It took a couple seconds for me to process that, because I immediately recalled a scene from the now-largely-forgotten film The Medusa Touch, where a 747 slams into a skyscraper. Except, of course, this was all too real.

And the world’s never been the same since.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:39:50am

re: #38 Odie Hugh Manatee

Troopers with the Washington State Patrol on Thursday said they have arrested a second person for intentionally starting a brush fire in Pierce County.

Troopers said someone saw a man setting fire to grass with a match near State Route 512 and State Route 7 and called police. Troopers arrived at the scene, chased the man, and took him into custody.

Thursday’s arrest comes one day after a 36-year-old Puyallup man was arrested for allegedly starting a large brushfire which temporarily shut down state Route 167 and several ramps near Meridian Avenue.

Fire danger remains very high across Washington due to low humidity and high temperatures. More than 480,000 acres in Washington have burned since Monday.

kiro7.com

thepostmillennial.com

A BLM activist and alleged arsonist charged for reckless burning in the second degree had reported a fire set in Washington and then filmed his subsequent arrest.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 4:50:52am

hi

I just came back from lowering the flags in the village for Patriot Day (9/11).

Things have been pretty quiet around here. The big news is the sewer project continues to replace our Thirties sewer system. Driving down the alley behind the city park just now, my Smart sank a couple inches in the new road gravel laid down yesterday by the road construction firm repairing the alleys after the sewer firm replaces the sewers. I imagine they’ll be starting on the alley behind my house soon. When they’re done, the alleys will be in better condition than the streets.

Speaking of which, the Smart has well over 80,000 miles on it. Though it runs fine (though it has a few dents from last year’s softball-size hailstorms), my wife decided to start looking for a new car. Ideally I would like an electric car, but $$$ plus we live too far out in the middle of nowhere for an electric car to be practical. (For example, an electric Smart will only go about sixty miles, the distance from here to Scottsbluff or Sidney. A Tesla costs multiple times the value of my house.)

Summer is coming back now that the unseasonable snowstorm is over; the temperatures will reach the mid-forties today, but by late in the week we’ll be back in the nineties. My furnace and air conditioner are confused.

One thing nice about cold weather is my wife makes a lot of baked goods (the oven helps keep the house warm). Too many in fact: She tends to give them away to neighbours. (Right now she has plastic tubs with fifty pounds each of rye and whole wheat flour she says she intends to use up in the next couple months.)

Veterans in town are starting to get upset with delayed prescriptions due to the maladministration. Speaking to one of our arch-conservative vets yesterday, he’s pissed that the Post Office has become a political football; he seems to think this is like a third-rail political issue which will hurt Republicans in the election. (Sample size of my poll: n=1)

The church in town has reopened after being closed all summer due to Covid-19. Since Gov. Ricketts removed most of the remaining restrictions, the church had a full house yesterday.

TestNebraska (the private Utah firm which has a lot of problems with providing tests which the governor employed with a no-bid contract) announced they had a series of computer problems which caused them to have low reporting numbers; they say that will be corrected soon and we will probably see a spike in new cases as an artifact of that.

Nine new cases Saturday and two new cases Sunday in the Panhandle Public Health District, bringing us to 730. The number of deaths hasn’t changed for several months and remains at six. We still have the anomaly of women and girls being 2/3 of cases here.

There has still not been a case in my town, but I am concerned when one happens. Because the town is so small, I expect whoever that first person or family is will be shunned by the rest of the community.

I discussed that possibility with my wife, with an eye toward seeing if they need help shopping or whatnot if someone winds up quarantined in their house.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:09:09am

re: #57 Shropshire Slasher

On The Post Millenial article there about a captured arsonist, I note there is no sourcing for the article. The claim “he’s a BLM activist” seems to be an assertion with a photograph. They also assert many fires on the West Coast have been set by arsonists according to authorities, but don’t quote any authorities or provide a source for the assertion.

Here, the Hubbard’s Gap fire is now out after burning more than four thousand acres of prairie and forest. Though Antifa rumours were floating around here, the incident commander and state fire marshal have determined the cause to be a chain dragged behind a vehicle causing a spark when dragged over a cattle guard. The state has cautioned drivers to ensure their chains are properly secured.

As Abraham Lincoln is noted to have said in many memes, don’t believe everything you read on the Internet.

The KIRO-TV article doesn’t mention any particular affiliation by the arsonist.

Wikipedia opens with this bit about The Post Millenial though:

The Post Millennial is a conservative Canadian online news magazine started in 2017. It publishes national and local news and has a large amount of opinion content. It has been criticized for releasing misinformation and articles written by fake personas, for past employment of an editor with ties to white supremacist-platforming and pro-Kremlin media outlets, and for opaque funding and political connections.

en.wikipedia.org

I’m not saying they’re wrong, I’m just withholding an opinion on the cause of the fires until a better source comes along.

A reverse image search at TinEye for the image in the article shows the road picture half was posted by the Washington State Patrol, but the man on the left of the picture only appears at The Post Millenial.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:11:52am

re: #57 Shropshire Slasher

kiro7.com

thepostmillennial.com

The downside to the non-organizational, “leaderless movement” strategy is that any common asshole can be made the face of your movement, and there isn’t much you can do about it. The successful movements of the civil rights era were organized like the German General Staff or the Vatican Curia.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:16:46am

re: #60 Decatur Deb

The downside to the non-organizational, “leaderless movement” strategy is that any common asshole can be made the face of your movement, and there isn’t much you can do about it. The successful movements of the civil rights era were organized like the German General Staff or the Vatican Curia.

True enough. Anyone can claim to be a member of a non-organisation.

Wikipedia also has this bit:

Andy Ngo has been editor-at-large since 2019. Ngo was previously with Quillette.[8]

Yaakov Pollak, a former provincial Conservative Party candidate, joined the media group in July 2019. Pollak ran a variety of Conservative Party-affiliated Facebook groups, including the Liberty Now and the Elect Conservatives groups. Pollak did not declare his connection to these pages, and until he was contacted by interested media groups, the majority of content on those pages was sourced from The Post Millennial.

The Post Millennial has been questioned for its hiring of editor Cosmin Dzsurdzsa. Dzurdzsa began his career in 2015 at Russia Insider, a pro-Kremlin propaganda outlet. Dzurdzsa worked from December 2017 through 2018 at Free Bird Media, a blog which interviewed white supremacists including Richard Spencer and Kevin Johnston both before and while Dzurdzsa worked there. When asked by the National Observer, representatives of the media outlet made no comment on background checks or considerations of past employment in hiring.[2] Dzsurdzsa no longer works at The Post Millennial.

The article also notes they spread misinformation that last year’s bushfires in Australia were largely set by arsonists, in articles written by Paul Joseph Watson.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:17:29am

re: #60 Decatur Deb

The downside to the non-organizational, “leaderless movement” strategy is that any common asshole can be made the face of your movement, and there isn’t much you can do about it. The successful movements of the civil rights era were organized like the German General Staff or the Vatican Curia.

Yes, the Yellow Vest movement in France petered our (or did it pierre out?) because it disintegrated into a a group of individuals all out protesting against their personal greivances.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:22:17am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Don’t know the others, but Ngo has consistently come up as a liar and provocateur, another Dinesh.

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lizardofid  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:22:30am

re: #48 Decatur Deb

The pattern looks like an outbreak of ringworm. Same math, I guess.

Fractals?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:29:39am

re: #64 lizardofid

Fractals?

Thinking some kind of nearest-neighbor travel, driven by consuming available food or fuel. The circularity seems odd, as though prevailing winds didn’t prevail

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lizardofid  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:35:33am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

Thinking some kind of nearest-neighbor travel, driven by consuming available food or fuel. The circularity seems odd, as though prevailing winds didn’t prevail

That makes sense. I wondered about redwoods the first time I saw them. They seemed to be in circles. I wondered if there had not been a “mother tree” long ago.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:36:19am

Another one, not a Democrat, not a liberal:
UNT Quarterbacks Coach Tate Wallis Resigns Following Arrest For Alleged Improper Relationship With A Student
The incident happened BEFORE Wallis came to UNT from a high school coaching position in January, ie this involves a high school student.
Before that, he was at Baylor and was fired for recruiting infractions.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:38:39am

For breakfast, I’ll open last night’s take-out fortune cookie. The family joke is that my fortunes are always vaguely threatening.

“You will find good fortune in love.” Threatening enough—Wife is in Denver for another week.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:47:51am

re: #49 Decatur Deb

By their nature, Executive Orders are mundane bureaucratic tools, changed and retired routinely as need arises. It’s only in the Obama and Trump administrations, where they were used to expand presidential power, that they’ve become even notable outside the Executive Branch.

because congress…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:50:26am

Executive Order (2009-2017) Tyrannical overreach by a would-be dictator!

Executive Order (2017 - present) Necessary tools to Make America Great and get around Do Nothing Congress!!!

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:56:30am

re: #51 Shropshire Slasher

someone’s gonna go there, so i’ll do it early

The attacks killed nearly 3,000 innocents, the worst on US soil ever. Downtown remained a wasteland for weeks, as more heroes streamed in from all over to help in the rescue and recovery.

the worst on use soil in one day

covid is an attack on US soil.

no, not conceived, initiated and perpetrated by external enemies of the country.

made magnitudes worse by internal enemies of the country; the president’s deliberate action and inaction; endorsed, abetted and supported by his administration and his party.

it’s killed 200,000 innocents. the worst on US soil ever, even though it’s taking longer than one day.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:58:47am

re: #18 EPR-radar

Which is most of the reason why the religious right hates Carter so much.

Carter’s works after his WH stint show that he truly believes in working for others, and his Habitat for Humanity is one of the great charities helping people gain homeownership and helping communities. It’s one that I believe in and wholeheartedly support.

Other recent presidents have likewise endeavored to do charitable works, including Clinton, GHWB, GWB, and Obama.

We know for a fact Trump wont. He’s barred from doing so because he ran an illicit charity where he mismanaged funds, his idiot son stole from the charity, and his family can’t run charities either because they’re all crooks. Trump doesn’t care about anyone but himself, and it shows.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 5:59:10am

There was speculation about whether authorities were aware of plans to attack America on 9/11/01 and did nothing, but we have an open admission on the part of the President that he knew of the potential of Covid and DID NOTHING except call it a hoax, no worse than the flu and tell us that it would go away on its own…

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Renaissance_Man  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:00:15am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Executive Order (2009-2017) Tyrannical overreach by a would-be dictator!

Executive Order (2017 - present) Necessary tools to Make America Great and get around Do Nothing Congress!!!

And per Peter Navarro, the divine right of kings.

That’s what we’ve come to - the end of the American founding dream of government by the people. We return again to the divine right of kings, where some are more equal than others, and we are meant to be ruled by those God puts above us.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:00:23am

re: #24 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

People still buy music CDs??

My wife has switched to Spitify because her new SUV didn’t come with a cd player. I still like buying cds to support the bands, but it’s actually kind of hard to buy them. Since Best Buy doesn’t sell them, I refuse to buy them from Walmart, and Target doesn’t have a huge selection, there isn’t a good place to browse.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:00:24am

Today’s 9/11, for anyone that forgot what day it is in a year that seems like a decade unto itself.

I wrote a longer twitter thread about the day, and the parallels to Trumpworld here (just the start):

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:01:36am

re: #75 Belafon

. I still like buying cars to support the bands, but it’s actually kind of hard to buy them.

I was a fan of the cars but I think they have broken up…

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:01:45am

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

I was just unlocking the door to my apartment in Prague when my ex-wife (girlfriend at the time) called me and asked where I was. She then said, “You’d better turn on the TV - something really bad looks to be happening in New York City.”

I turned on the TV to ČT1 and they were carrying a live feed from BBC. And just in time to see the South Tower hit by United #175. It took a couple seconds for me to process that, because I immediately recalled a scene from the now-largely-forgotten film The Medusa Touch, where a 747 slams into a skyscraper. Except, of course, this was all too real.

And the world’s never been the same since.

i got on the phone with one of my pilot buddies. we were speculating some sort of small plane, an idiot pilot, heart attack, something.

then we watched the second plane hit and everything changed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:04:17am

We were moving a piano that day, I heard about reports of a plane attacking the Pentagon, I assumed it was a light plane, like the crazy fellow who tried to crash into the White House in 1994…

The full extent of it did not sink in until we got back home and turned on the TV.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:06:04am

re: #75 Belafon

My wife has switched to Spitify because her new SUV didn’t come with a cd player. I still like buying cars to support the bands, but it’s actually kind of hard to buy them. Since Best Buy doesn’t sell them, I refuse to buy them from Walmart, and Target doesn’t have a huge selection, there isn’t a good place to browse.

When all the other crap subsides, in a couple months, I want to pick brains about the current state of hi-fi. My good old speakers have lost their foam, and my cd-changer died.
The most techie of my kids makes me think no one cares about fidelity in the world of MP3 over smartphones.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:06:58am

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was speculation about whether authorities were aware of plans to attack America on 9/11/01 and did nothing, but we have an open admission on the part of the President that he knew of the potential of Covid and DID NOTHING except call it a hoax, no worse than the flu and tell us that it would go away on its own…

If we had a Senate GOP that put nation above party, we’d have investigations and a commission to investigate and recommend charges against the Admin for the massive and overwhelming failures leading to the deaths of 200,000 Americans with no end in sight.

Instead, we have a complicit GOP that blocks any criticism of Trump and when media outlets ask GOPers about the audio of Trump admitting he’s lying to the American people, they all run for the elevators or lie about the circumstances.

Trump’s entire life is about inducing panic in his know nothing base. Immigrants coming to kill white women. Antifa destroying cities. Riots destroying cities. The need for everyone to get guns, except black people, who are gunned down doing absolutely nothing. But on covid19, he thinks that leveling with the American people would have caused a panic.

His actions did cause a panic, just not how he thinks of them.

Lines to buy toilet paper and cleaning supplies. Shortages of various foodstuffs because the meatpacking plants and farm businesses had outbreaks among their employees and had to shutter.

We had shortages thanks to Trump’s massive and overwhelming failures to honestly reflect the situation. He undermined those governors who did - like Newsom, Whitmer, and Cuomo. That doesn’t mean that the governors did a perfect job. It means that they did a better job than Trump, and they did it without the information Trump was withholding from them and the American people for months.

Had Trump insisted on the nation masking up, so much death and misery could have been avoided. Had Trump shut down air travel for a month, so much death and misery could have been avoided. Had Trump shut everything down as he then lied about, we would have been able to get testing ramped up to contain the spread and recover faster and sooner.

All the while, Trump and the GOP didn’t care about the 50 million who lost their jobs or the economy cratering. They care (and continue to only care) about the vulture capitalists who can make money picking through the ruins of the wrecked economy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:07:09am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

When all the other crap subsides, in a couple months, I want to pick brains about the current state of hi-fi. My good old speakers have lost their foam, and my cd-changer died.
The most techie of my kids makes me think no one cares about fidelity in the world of MP3 over smartphones.

mobility trumps fidelity…tinder music

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:08:50am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:09:10am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

mobility trumps fidelity…tinder music

That’s how you get ear clap.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:11:00am
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:11:34am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was a fan of the cars but I think they have broken up…

I meant cds. Autocorrect tried to do its job.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:11:37am

re: #84 Decatur Deb

That’s how you get ear clap.

I remember my kids bringing home some device with their Burger King kiddie meal that featured some pop song and realizing how music had become separated from the medium (radio, record/tape player) and had become a commodity of its own…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:12:40am

re: #86 Belafon

I meant cds. Autocorrect tried to do its job.

I was doing a translation and a name came up, Katharina Orgass. You can imagine what my auto-correct did to her….mmmmm, indeed.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:15:13am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

When all the other crap subsides, in a couple months, I want to pick brains about the current state of hi-fi. My good old speakers have lost their foam, and my cd-changer died.
The most techie of my kids makes me think no one cares about fidelity in the world of MP3 over smartphones.

99% of us don’t, and of the 1% that do, 99% of them can’t actually tell the difference.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:17:01am

I have on old 90’s vintage boom box cassette deck that I use to play my music over. I run a CD player thru the aux channel. works for me.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:18:23am

re: #89 Belafon

I listen to mp3s using winamp player (yeah, I’m a dinosaur in that respect). Why? Because I like the ability to modify the sound with the equalizer, which isn’t easily done with native player on windows.

I remember when having a full audio system with receivers, amplifiers, and equalizers were the epitome of good sound.

Now? It’s whatever is played on whatever bluetooth enabled speakers you can buy.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:18:37am

And

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:18:45am

re: #89 Belafon

99% of us don’t, and of the 1% that do, 99% of them can’t actually tell the difference.

Guess that’s a natural consequence when 20 yr olds blow out their ears on Metal. All through the 50s till recently ever-more- accurate rendering seemed like a human (and economic) drive.

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jeffreyw  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:20:33am

Good morning!

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:20:48am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

When all the other crap subsides, in a couple months, I want to pick brains about the current state of hi-fi. My good old speakers have lost their foam, and my cd-changer died.
The most techie of my kids makes me think no one cares about fidelity in the world of MP3 over smartphones.

In my garage I have a yamaha natural sound receiver and four bookshelf speakers mounted on the wall. What makes it pop is the separately powered subwoofer. Gotta have the bottom end.

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John Hughes  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:21:39am

re: #13 Dread Pirate Ron
Both teams should have just walked off.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:21:55am

The first time I heard a CD I freaked out. I had never heard anything but crackle, hiss, and pop between songs and was shocked by the silence. It sounded shiny and shallow, but tech improved pretty quickly.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:22:53am

re: #91 lawhawk

I remember when having a full audio system with receivers, amplifiers, and equalizers were the epitome of good sound.

Now? It’s whatever is played on whatever bluetooth enabled speakers you can buy.

My speakers are good consumer Pioneers from the early 80s, weigh about 40 lbs each. I’m wondering if I should try to re-foam them, but that’s all a project for after November.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:23:18am

re: #95 Shropshire Slasher

In my garage I have a yamaha natural sound receiver and four bookshelf speakers mounted on the wall. What makes it pop is the separately powered subwoofer. Gotta have the bottom end.

Most music benefits from having low end bass turned up, and the higher ranges turned down some. Of course, since I listen to a lot of hard rock, heavy metal, and prog rock, having bass turned up to 11 is a natural.

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plansbandc  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:25:16am

re: #41 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of my favorites!!

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:27:25am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:32:22am

re: #101 lawhawk

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XM Radio is going to do a choral version of Samuel Barber’s Adagio for Strings.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:32:37am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember my kids bringing home some device with their Burger King kiddie meal that featured some pop song and realizing how music had become separated from the medium (radio, record/tape player) and had become a commodity of its own…

I’m imagining some early 20th century musician saying the same thing about the first musical recording.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:32:40am

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mmmirele  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:32:56am

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

I was just unlocking the door to my apartment in Prague when my ex-wife (girlfriend at the time) called me and asked where I was. She then said, “You’d better turn on the TV - something really bad looks to be happening in New York City.”

I turned on the TV to ČT1 and they were carrying a live feed from BBC. And just in time to see the South Tower hit by United #175. It took a couple seconds for me to process that, because I immediately recalled a scene from the now-largely-forgotten film The Medusa Touch, where a 747 slams into a skyscraper. Except, of course, this was all too real.

And the world’s never been the same since.

I had my clock radio set to wake me up at 5:55 and I’d lay in bed through the top of the hour news on NPR, then roll out of bed and get started with my day. On that day, I woke up and the announcers were puzzling through “a plane hit the World Trade Center towers,” and after that worked through my fuzzy, sleepy brain, I bounded out of bed and turned on the TV just in time to see the second plane hit the south tower.

I watched for a while longer and then had to go to work, which in those days meant getting around and driving to the next city. In the middle of the day, after both towers had fallen, I called my father and listened as he told me in awe about how both WTC buildings had collapsed. Dad had been one of the many people called in from along the East Coast to help rewire the phone systems located in the basement of the north WTC building after the 1993 bombing. So he knew how huge those buildings were. In later years, he was completely annoyed with the “Loose Change” crowd and all their crap about pyrotechnics in the walls. It was hard enough to try and wire in a building built in the 1970s and not really set up to handle all the communications and computer cabling of even 1993. There was no room for pyrotechnics.

Today is also the first day of moving from experienced, seasoned technicians in the Philippines to newbie techs in India. Gee thanks, beancounters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:34:27am

re: #103 Belafon

I’m imagining some early 20th century musician saying the same thing about the first musical recording.

of course, but even then, they were connected to a grammophone player, these songs were on cheap electronic devices that fit in your pocket…

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:35:05am

re: #78 dangerman

I got an SMS from a colleague saying “plane hit the World Trade Center” - that would’ve been the first one, the North Tower. My immediate thought was a Cessna or other small private aircraft.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:35:42am

re: #93 Decatur Deb

Guess that’s a natural consequence when 20 yr olds blow out their ears on Metal. All through the 50s till recently ever-more- accurate rendering seemed like a human (and economic) drive.

There are always those who are really invested in something, those who think they are, and those who just enjoy the basic things. It’s like Chili’s. A number of people here think it’s crap, but for most people, it’s no worse than the food they make at home, and at least someone else is cooking.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:36:46am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

I saw the fire/explosion moments after and thought the same - I thought it was a small engine plane, not a large commercial passenger jet. When the second plane hit, I knew it was terrorism.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:36:49am

re: #97 Barefoot Grin

The first time I heard a CD I freaked out. I had never heard anything but crackle, hiss, and pop between songs and was shocked by the silence. It sounded shiny and shallow, but tech improved pretty quickly.

Do you know hard hard it was for the musicians to learn how to make their instruments crack like that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:37:56am

re: #110 Belafon

Do you know hard hard it was for the musicians to learn how to make their instruments crack like that?

back in the days when the only way to get fuzz tone was to blow out your tubes or cut holes in the speaker cone

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:40:07am

He worked for Rep. Jerrold Nadler.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:40:50am

My God

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:41:49am

The “vice and virtue survey” predicts an 11 percentage point swing toward Biden among evangelicals and Catholics who backed Trump in 2016.

Apparently other polls have seen similar gains in Biden’s religious support.

Basically biden has some sincere religious chops that makes him one what attrsctive.

while trump is now being seen as a lying, empty religious suit/ exploiter for his own personal gain

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:43:02am

re: #113 HRH Stanley Sea

My God

Will he be given an honorary Doctorate from Harverd University?

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A Mom Anon  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:43:44am

Re: recorded music.

My kid has nearly 3000 CDs. He buys them because he lost his entire music library a few years ago to some tech glitch and had to reload all his music again. Some of the digital stuff just went poof never to return. He’s also a tad obsessed and likes collecting something he can physically see and hold in his hands. He gets a lot of his stuff from online discount places that sell used CDs or from amazon shops and other sellers overseas.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:44:04am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

I got an SMS from a colleague saying “plane hit the World Trade Center” - that would’ve been the first one, the North Tower. My immediate thought was a Cessna or other small private aircraft.

Our office was a mix of civilians and Aviation field-grades getting “Pentagon Time” without having to live in DC. We kept a large-screen up, and when the first plane hit we thought it was a tourist helo or such. When the second hit we called our Pentagon liaison and were online when the building was hit, killing a 3-star “on our molecule”.

We got quiet except for a couple younger pilots who got their blood up at the idea they would fly Longbows in anger.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:45:10am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:47:14am

re: #113 HRH Stanley Sea

My God

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It takes effort to be that lazy.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:48:51am

re: #113 HRH Stanley Sea

My God

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Elites with their properly spelling on an award that the President totally deserves!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:48:54am

re: #118 Patricia Kayden

It seems to me that religious people are the ones that are most eager to get their hands on young kids.

It is a matter of homophobic doctrine that since teh gayz cannot reproduce, they have to seduce young children in order to propagate…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:49:19am

re: #116 A Mom Anon

Re: recorded music.

My kid has nearly 3000 CDs. He buys them because he lost his entire music library a few years ago to some tech glitch and had to reload all his music again. Some of the digital stuff just went poof never to return. He’s also a tad obsessed and likes collecting something he can physically see and hold in his hands. He gets a lot of his stuff from online discount places that sell used CDs or from amazon shops and other sellers overseas.

My wife and I have about one hundred CDs and about two hundred LPs. (I recently bought her a device which converts cassette tape recordings to MP3 files, so she is transferring her cassette library.)

We are poking around for a new turntable and new CD player (both died recently). We’ll probably purchase those from the Navy Exchange when we have enough money for that.

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Jay C  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:52:26am

re: #76 lawhawk

Today’s 9/11, for anyone that forgot what day it is in a year that seems like a decade unto itself.

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I know: I mentioned it to the Mrs. this morning, and her reaction was “19 years? Seems like yesterday!” - which I can feel, as well. I guess for a certain generation, it;s going to be one of those Peal Harbor/Kennedy Assassination “where were you?” moments that (unfortunately) stays in the memory.

For myself, we had been in the country, and I had had to drive back to NY because our car lease was up on 9/11/01, and I had to take it back to the dealer. And probably like most everyone, I was slightly baffled by the radio reports about “a plane hitting the WTC” - most of the early reportage seemed to think it was something like a parallel to the bomber (B-25?) that hit the Empire State Building in WWII.
By the time I got to the dealership (where everyone was clustering around a TV), it was obvious it was a bit more serious. The rest, as they say, is history….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:53:56am

re: #118 Patricia Kayden

It seems to me that religious people are the ones that are most eager to get their hands on young kids.

— Erich Kays

Discover the power of repetition and asking questions when it comes to the gospel sermons for kids (11:36)

Sermons For Kids - Sharing The Gospel With Children

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:56:04am

re: #124 Jay C

I was homeless at the time, stuck in Missouri.

I do not recall hearing about 9/11 for several days after the attack.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:56:14am

September 11, 2001
I discovered LGF three weeks later, been here ever since. (We didn’t have registration until 2004.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:57:10am

re: #69 dangerman

because congress…

Mitch McConnell made clear before Obama took office that he was going to make Obama a one-term president. The Republicans did everything in their power to obstruct Obama; once they took control of the House in 2010, Obama had no way of implementing any policies except through Executive Orders. It’s McConnell who has inflicted permanent damage on this country and is in lockstep with Trump’s evil.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 6:57:28am

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Post Millennial was touted by Andrew Scheer on his way out as leader of the Canadian conservative party. It’s Canada’s OANN just not to the crazy level seen in the US.

Scheer did his own Fake News speech on his way out. It was fucking nuts (this was after the complete clusterfuck of voting for a new Con leader took place).

Cons are fucking assholes worldwide.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:00:02am

Reuters scoured the small coal towns of Pennsylvania to find….

BIDEN SUPPORTERS!!

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:00:49am

re: #109 lawhawk

I saw the fire/explosion moments after and thought the same - I thought it was a small engine plane, not a large commercial passenger jet. When the second plane hit, I knew it was terrorism.

I was out back of the building at work having a smoke and my coffee. I hear a roar coming over the hill and a big jet airliner came fly over at most 1500 to 2000 feet up. I went back into the building to tell others about this way too low flying airliner. When I went into the computer room they were just hearing about what was happening. We went into the training room where there were TV’s and switched on the news. That is when we learned the whole story of what was happening.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:01:23am

re: #123 dangerman

“Sir, why are you not wearing a mask?” Acosta asked another man, who shot back “Because it’s no Covid. It’s a fake pandemic. Created to destroy the United States of America.”

“But the president said to Bob Woodward that there is a virus, the coronavirus, that is deadly,” Acosta said.

“That’s his opinion,” the man said, then repeated a debunked falsehood about the death toll.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:01:48am

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

September 11, 2001
I discovered LGF three weeks later, been here ever since. (We didn’t have registration until 2004.)

I joined around the same time… been here ever since.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:02:01am

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:02:13am

re: #113 HRH Stanley Sea

My God

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There goes their literature “noble” prize.

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NetworkKed  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:02:18am

I’m a big believer in buying whole albums - the full artistic document.

In this moment, it’s usually cheapest to buy on used CD, and usually less hassle to rip then to fully download files that you purchase. I don’t like to do that for artists I like since used means they get no money, but for very old or random stuff, I’ll do it that way.

Eventually the used media prices will go up - there simply won’t be enough in the pipeline.

Vinyl has this rep as being higher quality - technically that’s true, but it requires an impossibly high standard of playback tools to get that quality out of it. I’d like to see music distributors offering higher-quality digital output instead.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:05:34am

re: #130 The Pie Overlord!

Note the Confederate flag. In PA. That’s not Southern Heritage they’re supporting. They’re supporting the treasonous insurrectionists who fought to protect their right to own slaves.

These are the racist white base of the GOP. All while Trump’s destroying the economy, these GOP know nothings find common cause in attacking blacks because blacks are still seeking to have the same rights and protections that whites have taken for granted for generations.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:09:02am

re: #137 lawhawk

Note the Confederate flag. In PA. That’s not Southern Heritage they’re supporting. They’re supporting the treasonous insurrectionists who fought to protect their right to own slaves.

These are the racist white base of the GOP. All while Trump’s destroying the economy, these GOP know nothings find common cause in attacking blacks because blacks are still seeking to have the same rights and protections that whites have taken for granted for generations.

That flag is a 2nd Amendment “Come and take it.” gun-nut version.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:12:01am

re: #130 The Pie Overlord!

“Take that terrorist flag down.”
“How dare you talk about the Marines like that.”

The guy really seems to be compensating for something.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:13:21am

re: #138 Decatur Deb

That flag is a 2nd Amendment “Come and take it.” gun-nut version.

And it’s a 2A right that is all too often denied to African Americans. John Crawford, Tamir Rice, and countless others can’t be reached for comment.

They were murdered by cops despite being in open carry states.

Meanwhile, right wing domestic terrorists slinging AR-15s were able to walk freely through police lines and threaten US governors and protesters alike.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:13:31am

re: #137 lawhawk

Note the Confederate flag. In PA. That’s not Southern Heritage they’re supporting. They’re supporting the treasonous insurrectionists who fought to protect their right to own slaves.

These are the racist white base of the GOP. All while Trump’s destroying the economy, these GOP know nothings find common cause in attacking blacks because blacks are still seeking to have the same rights and protections that whites have taken for granted for generations.

I’ve seen the CSA flag more in the rural north than urban/suburban South. The flag has always been about racism.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:15:21am

re: #140 lawhawk

And it’s a 2A right that is all too often denied to African Americans. John Crawford, Tamir Rice, and countless others can’t be reached for comment.

They were murdered by cops despite being in open carry states.

Meanwhile, right wing domestic terrorists slinging AR-15s were able to walk freely through police lines and threaten US governors and protesters alike.

Indeed. I’ve had gun control opponents try to tell me that gun control laws are racist but it’s actually our current status quo that treats a white guy open carrying like he’s fine while a black guy who warns in advance that he has a gun that worries.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:15:45am
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:16:43am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember my kids bringing home some device with their Burger King kiddie meal that featured some pop song and realizing how music had become separated from the medium (radio, record/tape player) and had become a commodity of its own…

I remember cutting out a playable 45 record of the archie’s “sugar, sugar” from the back of a cereal box

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:16:44am

re: #110 Belafon

Do you know hard hard it was for the musicians to learn how to make their instruments crack like that?

I had audiophile friends who kept vinyl and all components pristine. I was never able to do that, sadly.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:17:38am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:17:46am

re: #131 Eventual Carrion

I was out back of the building at work having a smoke and my coffee. I hear a roar coming over the hill and a big jet airliner came fly over at most 1500 to 2000 feet up. I went back into the building to tell others about this way too low flying airliner. When I went into the computer room they were just hearing about what was happening. We went into the training room where there were TV’s and switched on the news. That is when we learned the whole story of what was happening.

When I turned on the car radio while driving to work that Tuesday morning, they were reporting on the first plane. Everyone was assuming it was an accident by a small plane. Suddenly, one of those being interviewed screamed that a plane — another plane — had crashed into the second building and I knew immediately that we were now at war, though the enemy was still unknown.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:19:37am

re: #95 Shropshire Slasher

In my garage I have a yamaha natural sound receiver and four bookshelf speakers mounted on the wall. What makes it pop is the separately powered subwoofer. Gotta have the bottom end.

It’s alla bout the bass….

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:21:20am

re: #148 dangerman

Meghan Trainor - All About That Bass

(wait… that’s not the bass she’s talking about… /heh)

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:24:49am

I got so used to the skips in certain songs that when I got CD versions of some of my vinyl it took me a long time to adjust to how the songs were actually supposed to sound.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:25:20am

re: #108 Belafon

There are always those who are really invested in something, those who think they are, and those who just enjoy the basic things. It’s like Chili’s. A number of people here think it’s crap, but for most people, it’s no worse than the food they make at home, and at least someone else is cooking.

…and cleaning up

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lizardofid  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:26:58am

re: #149 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

(wait… that’s not the bass she’s talking about… /heh)

Much catchier than “All about that frequency response”

//

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:27:32am

re: #151 dangerman

Eating out at a restaurant is a respite from the routine of prep, serving, and cleanup of a meal. That was a foregone and overlooked part of life pre-covid.

And until there’s a vaccine, I don’t see myself doing that. I can’t bring myself to dine in a restaurant when I see how many people don’t take masking or social distancing seriously.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:29:18am

re: #113 HRH Stanley Sea

My God

[Embedded content]

Metaphor for this entire admin
Careless, ignorant, indifferent

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:29:18am

re: #144 dangerman

I remember cutting out a playable 45 record of the archie’s “sugar, sugar” from the back of a cereal box

but you still had to put it on a record player…

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:30:29am

re: #154 dangerman

Metaphor for this entire admin
Careless, ignorant, indifferent

[Embedded content]

They’ll end up forcing the Nobel Noble people to rename the prize.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:31:11am

re: #153 lawhawk

Eating out at a restaurant is a respite from the routine of prep, serving, and cleanup of a meal. That was a foregone and overlooked part of life pre-covid.

And until there’s a vaccine, I don’t see myself doing that. I can’t bring myself to dine in a restaurant when I see how many people don’t take masking or social distancing seriously.

Zedushka & I love to go to Toronto just to spend a couple of days eating out in restaurants. I have no idea when we can start doing that again, especially now that our son has moved to Pennsylvania.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:33:19am

From the WTC earlier today:

Pence and Biden, with De Blasio off to right, Bloomberg, Schumer, Gillibrand, and Nadler all looking on in the back left. Note that everyone appears to be masked.

There was an earlier photo of Cuomo and Biden, where Cuomo was not fully covering his nose. Damnit people - wear your masks properly. The life you save may be your own (or your family or community).

Oh, and it was VP Biden who initiated the interaction.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:34:01am
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:34:37am

re: #128 Hecuba’s daughter

Mitch McConnell made clear before Obama took office that he was going to make Obama a one-term president. The Republicans did everything in their power to obstruct Obama; once they took control of the House in 2010, Obama had no way of implementing any policies except through Executive Orders. It’s McConnell who has inflicted permanent damage on this country and is in lockstep with Trump’s evil.

Exactly

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:34:38am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:34:48am

Internet troubles, but not mine.

I just got back from the Post Office, mailing my dead modem back to CenturyLink and getting a money order to send to my mother.

They have a new money order machine at the Post Office to replace the old one which operated like the old credit card impression machines. This one is connected to the Internet and prints money orders after they are lodged with the Postal Service over the Internet.

They received the new machine last week and were told to return the old impression machine.

Thursday the Post Office’s Internet service went out, meaning they couldn’t sell money orders. This caused some consternation in town, since many of the people here pay their bills that way. (The nearest bank is sixteen miles away.) There really wasn’t anything the postmistress could do about it, as the problem was with CenturyLink and not the new USPS machine.

In other news, I WON THE LOTTO ($1).

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:35:01am

washingtonpost.com

… On Friday, Biden and Trump will appear on a field that memorializes the bravery and toughness of ordinary Americans, epitomized by the cry of “Let’s roll” as passengers attempted to retake the cockpit. Trump is scheduled to attend a 9:45 a.m. ceremony, which is closed to the public but will be streamed online. Biden’s campaign announced Thursday evening that he would be in New York on Friday morning for a ceremony at the 9/11 Memorial & Museum, before traveling to Shanksville in the afternoon…

On Sept. 11, 2001, Biden’s daughter, then a college student, called him, begging him to leave Washington. The senator instead marched to the Capitol, reaching the steps before a police officer stopped him and told him a fourth plane — the one that would eventually crash in Shanksville — was heading toward Washington and, some thought, the Capitol.

Biden pushed back against pleas that members of Congress relocate to a bunker in West Virginia. He spoke by phone with President George W. Bush that evening, urging him to come back to Washington…

On the day of the attack, Trump was watching CNBC as it prepared to interview former General Electric CEO Jack Welch, when the network cut away to a scene of the first tower on fire. One of his first reactions when the planes hit was to call a television show to offer commentary.

He later visited Ground Zero, and he cited the attacks to challenge immigration policies, religious tolerance and the need for the very global alliances that Biden has spent years embracing…

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BlueGrl21  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:35:48am

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

When I turned on the car radio while driving to work that Tuesday morning, they were reporting on the first plane. Everyone was assuming it was an accident by a small plane. Suddenly, one of those being interviewed screamed that a plane — another plane — had crashed into the second building and I knew immediately that we were now at war, though the enemy was still unknown.

The love of my life was on a plane traveling to work at Kinder-Morgan at the WTC. I didn’t breathe until I got his message on my pager that he was ok.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:36:57am

Korea really seems to have a knack for virus films. Watched # ALIVE last night and kinda enjoyed it. Just don’t bother with the English dub. lol

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:37:31am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:39:08am

re: #113 HRH Stanley Sea

My God

[Embedded content]

Well, seeing that the actual Nobel committee said the nomination was a fraud, this is probably accurate.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:39:48am

re: #133 lawhawk

I joined around the same time… been here ever since.

And on that note, you have 368,109 Lizard points as of this moment. Please see customer service about the wonderful cruise up the North Platte you could win. /s

Speaking of the above, my Internet service is sketchy this morning.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:39:57am

re: #149 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

(wait… that’s not the bass she’s talking about… /heh)

It’s the one I meant. ;-)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:40:08am

If Cheeto had been paying attention on 9-11, he would know that “public panic” is a much over-rated effect, especially by the bad guys who are trying to cause it. Millions of New Yorkers could see, and smell, the disaster for themselves, yet they did not panic or start looting and shooting. Hundreds of thousands of them calmly walked out of Manhattan, while those were close enough pitched in to help any way they could, which was sadly very little.

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BigPapa  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:40:14am

In the last few years I realized 9/11 was the event that transformed our unified boogeymen from Russians to brown people.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:41:57am

re: #156 Barefoot Grin

They’ll end up forcing the Nobel Noble people to rename the prize.

Right.
They got it wrong

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:42:16am

As tough as 9/11 was, Covid has been tougher.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:42:21am

re: #153 lawhawk

Eating out at a restaurant is a respite from the routine of prep, serving, and cleanup of a meal. That was a foregone and overlooked part of life pre-covid.

And until there’s a vaccine, I don’t see myself doing that. I can’t bring myself to dine in a restaurant when I see how many people don’t take masking or social distancing seriously.

we sometimes get a carry-out and go eat it somewhere or take it home, but I am not going to visit and indoor restaurant for some time

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:43:02am

re: #141 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’ve seen the CSA flag more in the rural north than urban/suburban South. The flag has always been about racism.

The guy here in our county seat was shamed into taking his CSA flag down.

The fellow up in Gordon with the Nazi flags flying from his gate has been run out of business. Once that became public, no one would do business with his ranch.

I tell you it’s political correctness run amok. /s

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:46:35am

re: #173 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

As tough as 9/11 was, Covid has been tougher.

Agreed. As bad as 9/11 was, the worst of it all was over relatively quickly. Most aspects of our daily lives were back on track within a few weeks if not sooner.

Not so with Covid-19. It’s been about six months since most states started shutting down and the great Toilet Paper Panic of 2020 set in and we might STILL not be past the worst of things.

Not to mention Covid has killed more people than 9/11 AND the War on Terror COMBINED.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:48:18am

re: #164 BlueGrl21

The love of my life was on a plane traveling to work at Kinder-Morgan at the WTC. I didn’t breathe until I got his message on my pager that he was ok.

That must have been a terrifying time for you.

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makeitstop  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:49:37am

Notice who didn’t show up in NYC this morning?

Just as well. We don’t want him here anyway. Fuck that guy.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:49:54am

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And on that note, you have 368,109 Lizard points as of this moment. Please see customer service about the wonderful cruise up the North Platte you could win. /s

Speaking of the above, my Internet service is sketchy this morning.

Must be why I only see every third word of your posts

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Amory Blaine  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:50:12am
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BigPapa  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:51:19am

Because shit is all fucked up and shit, Building 7 is trending on Twitter.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:52:14am

There are many idiotic and dishonest MAGAt talking points and claims, but to me the dumbest and most moronic of all is “HE’S SO RICH NO ONE CAN BUY HIM OFF!.” First we have only his word for it that his net worth is even positive, let alone in ten figures. More importantly, though, this point reflects a profound, peasant-level ignorance of how large scale business works.
Even completely legitimate operators with large and varied interests will be subject to all kinds of pressures, especially if they operate internationally. I know a guy whose company makes cotton-harvesting equipment. A lot of it is exported. He has little trouble with recipient countries, but he is always aware that the government of any one of those could cut off his access any time they like. How much worse could it be for someone like Trump, whose businesses are so murky and dependent on “creative” financial arrangements?
The more interests you have, the more points of pressure an opponent can find. If you’re a crook who does business with other crooks, you are automatically subject to actual blackmail, and you will be up the proverbial creek without a paddle.

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NetworkKed  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:52:19am

In 2001 I was still waking up to NPR. They said something about a plane colliding with a building after I got out of the shower, and I flipped on CNN to see the giant gash in the building - and a few seconds later the second plane hit though the commentary didn’t pick up right away that it wasn’t some kind of secondary explosion.

And I said, “well, that’s terrorism”. Because small planes don’t do that much damage, and large commercial planes don’t hit large buildings by accident. …and I’d read the Tom Clancy version of this a few years before.

(Clancy has the rep as sort of a mouth-breathing conservative, but a lot of that is due to the stuff written under his brand by other authors, even after his death. In his prime, he listened to a lot of smart people, then dumbed things down a little to fit into his very large books. The books he did on bioterrorism had some spooky echoes in the first months of 2020, but current America turned out to be stupider than he ever projected.)

…and then I went into work, because I was new there and had to. And went to several client sites during the day to work on awful tape-backup systems. Everyone there was watching TVs, but I was stuck in the server closets all day. Awful tech-support phone dude in India asked if I was okay. Went home, got out a cheap but strong chardonnay, drank myself to sleep.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:52:19am

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed. As bad as 9/11 was, the worst of it all was over relatively quickly. Most aspects of our daily lives were back on track within a few weeks if not sooner.

Not so with Covid-19. It’s been about six months since most states started shutting down and the great Toilet Paper Panic of 2020 set in and we might STILL not be past the worst of things.

Not to mention Covid has killed more people than 9/11 AND the War on Terror COMBINED.

Exactly. Maybe it’s because we’re still living it but the psych footprint of Covid is going to last a long time. I definitely feel it everyday. I look forward to the night the most because it’s when I can somewhat escape what’s going on with the most ease.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:53:06am

Q will have—may already have—blood on its hands. A dead certainty.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:53:15am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:53:37am

re: #182 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

He is assumed to be rich….but we cannot verify it lacking tax returns…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:54:06am

re: #179 dangerman

Must be why I only see every third word of your posts

Well, * * third * * has * * anyways.

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BigPapa  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:54:27am

re: #182 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

‘He’s so rich nobobyd can buy him off’
‘He understands the common man’

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Amory Blaine  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:54:46am

re: #91 lawhawk

I am using MusicBee now. This music app allows you to load external VSTs. So I put a nice equalizer in there and everything I have sounds fan-frigging-tastic!

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makeitstop  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:54:54am

re: #164 BlueGrl21

The love of my life was on a plane traveling to work at Kinder-Morgan at the WTC. I didn’t breathe until I got his message on my pager that he was ok.

I was doing freelance work at a real estate company that was in a building literally in the shadow of WTC. I got the gig from a coder friend of mine that recommended me.

He went into work that morning and we didn’t hear from him after trying to call and text him. We feared the worst, but it turns out he ended up walking across the Williamsburg Bridge and crashing at a friend’s apartment in Brooklyn for three days. We couldn’t get him on the phone because the attack pretty much destroyed cell communications in NYC for a long time. There was a big Verizon ops center in the basement of one of the towers.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:55:14am

re: #66 lizardofid

That makes sense. I wondered about redwoods the first time I saw them. They seemed to be in circles. I wondered if there had not been a “mother tree” long ago.

Redwood trees mostly grow up from shoots around a “mother tree” — if you see them in spring, you’ll see dozens of shoots growing out around the base of their trunks — so the circular pattern is common. (Their seeds are mostly infertile.)

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:55:50am

re: #178 makeitstop

Notice who didn’t show up in NYC this morning?

Just as well. We don’t want him here anyway. Fuck that guy.

He didn’t go to the Pentagon either… he went to a closed “door” event at Shanksville instead.

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Jay C  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:56:51am

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

Not to mention Covid has killed more people than 9/11 AND the War on Terror COMBINED.

And if when the death toll gets to (I think) 221,000, it will have killed more Americans than 9/11, the Vietnam War, the Korean War AND the First World War combined.*

Combat deaths, that is: The Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918-20 carried off many times that number.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:57:22am

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed. As bad as 9/11 was, the worst of it all was over relatively quickly. Most aspects of our daily lives were back on track within a few weeks if not sooner.

Not so with Covid-19. It’s been about six months since most states started shutting down and the great Toilet Paper Panic of 2020 set in and we might STILL not be past the worst of things.

Not to mention Covid has killed more people than 9/11 AND the War on Terror COMBINED.

9/11 was large, bold, and quick

the targets were selected and symbolic
it pointed out gaping holes in our security
for all the airport tsa ‘theater’, a lot was done, and done quickly w/r/t national security
sure, some of it less than optimal - parts of the patriot act, DHS, the wars etc
but most everyone was *with* GWB on that pile of rubble that day
(less so when ‘mission accomplished’)

meanwhile covid is wide, but not deep, an amoral microbe, and moving like molasses.
we were pretty well prepared.
then this admin tore down the planning infrastructure.
and its response, we all know, has been off point, lacklustre, selfish, and totally politically motivated.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:58:29am

The state supreme court upheld the sheriff of Lancaster County’s challenge to the medical marijuana amendment for the upcoming election.

The supreme court ruled the amendment proposal violated the state constitution, in that a referendum may only deal with one subject.

The court ruled that a) legalising marijuana, b) allowing those who could legally use it to grow it, and c) legally being able to transport small quantities for personal use constituted three different purposes.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:58:46am

re: #178 makeitstop

Notice who didn’t show up in NYC this morning?

Just as well. We don’t want him here anyway. Fuck that guy.

He would have made it about him. None of the crackers around me have taken down Trump signs.
Imagine that.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 7:58:48am

re: #185 Sherlock Hound

[Embedded content]

Q will have—may alreadyhave—blood on its hands. A dead certainty.

Q is the cumulation of what Alex Jones, Loose Change, & Zeitgeist have created.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:00:02am

re: #198 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Q is the cumulation of what Alex Jones, Loose Change, & Zeitgeist have created.

Performance Art from Hell

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:03:50am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Performance Art from Hell

The creators of which will say—have said!—that “it was fiction and if you believed that, you were stupid!”

Somewhere, two dead children will not be available for comment.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:04:56am

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

So it looks like maybe Nebraska will legalize it before Wisconsin? Sigh. We’re so progressive up here, not!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:06:22am

re: #185 Sherlock Hound

[Embedded content]

Q will have—may already have—blood on its hands. A dead certainty.

“I would honestly try to leave the country”.

Bye, Felicia.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:06:35am

re: #189 BigPapa

‘He’s so rich nobobyd can buy him off’
‘He understands the common man’

He does understand that many of the common men are drooling idiots.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:07:14am

re: #198 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Don’t forget to sprinkle in the Birchers, for a proper stew.

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lizardofid  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:08:50am

re: #192 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Redwood trees mostly grow up from shoots around a “mother tree” — if you see them in spring, you’ll see dozens of shoots growing out around the base of their trunks — so the circular pattern is common. (Their seeds are mostly infertile.)

Thanks!

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:09:38am

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

[Embedded content]

The state supreme court upheld the sheriff of Lancaster County’s challenge to the medical marijuana amendment for the upcoming election.

The supreme court ruled the amendment proposal violated the state constitution, in that a referendum may only deal with one subject.

The court ruled that a) legalising marijuana, b) allowing those who could legally use it to grow it, and c) legally being able to transport small quantities for personal use constituted three different purposes.

And in a few years “The Nebraska Supreme court ruled that an amendment legalizing marijuana is unconstitutional because it both makes marijuana legal and makes it legal for people to own it.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:09:48am

re: #204 Amory Blaine

Don’t forget to sprinkle in the Birchers, for a proper stew.

True. Fucking conspiracy nuts.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:10:47am

re: #192 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Redwood trees mostly grow up from shoots around a “mother tree” — if you see them in spring, you’ll see dozens of shoots growing out around the base of their trunks — so the circular pattern is common. (Their seeds are mostly infertile.)

That’s how the American Bradford Pair works as well. I keep having to cut the shoots off the roots of the one in my front yard every spring.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:11:03am

re: #94 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:11:21am

re: #209 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Oh wow, that’s cool.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:11:52am

re: #201 Amory Blaine

So it looks like maybe Nebraska will legalize it before Wisconsin? Sigh. We’re so progressive up here, not!

Wyoming introduced bills in 2019 and 2020 to legalise recreational marijuana. The first was defeated, and the second died at the expiry of the legislative session.

Wyoming is considered to have the harshest laws against possession and use, and some of the greatest racial disparities in enforcement. According to the Marijuana Policy Project (an advocacy group for loosening restrictions), polling indicates 62% of the state’s voters want to stop jailing people for possession. African-Americans are over five times more likely to be arrested in Wyoming for possession than Whites.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:12:16am

Quetzalcoatl?

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:12:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:14:01am

re: #213 lawhawk

New: I had hours of talks this week w/ lifelong Republican women in suburbs

Kristen, a mom of 4 near Dallas, locked herself in her daughter’s bedroom to talk to me about why she’s abandoning Trump

She didn’t want her husband to hear. And she’s not alone

Inconstant trollops.

/

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:18:15am

re: #157 The Pie Overlord!

Zedushka & I love to go to Toronto just to spend a couple of days eating out in restaurants. I have no idea when we can start doing that again, especially now that our son has moved to Pennsylvania.

I suggested to my wife she could exchange baking recipes with you, as she could learn a lot from you.

I barely avoided the marble rolling pin in response. /s

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:21:06am

re: #213 lawhawk

Man, that’s messed up.

My wife agree on many things politically but not all. On those we don’t agree with, we each respect the others view. We may be married but we are two individual people who had vastly different upbringings and thus different views on certain aspects of our world.

But we still love each other and (thankfully) never fight over politics.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:21:33am
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:21:39am

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I suggested to my wife she could exchange baking recipes with you, as she could learn a lot from you.

I barely avoided the marble rolling pin in response. /s

Marble rolling pins are the best for pie crust! They also make an excellent deadly weapon.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:23:40am

i subscribed to USPS Informed Delivery when they started mucking up the works

today, the entire first page of the email in bold and big letters is

“If you plan to vote by mail, plan ahead”

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Amory Blaine  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:24:00am

I couldn’t live or sleep with a trumpster.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:24:11am

I’m seeing Tweets about the mysterious “Dancing Israelis”

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Teukka  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:25:54am

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I suggested to my wife she could exchange baking recipes with you, as she could learn a lot from you.

I barely avoided the marble rolling pin in response. /s

Be glad it was the marble rolling pin… /s

DON’T Mess with Girls Holding a Kitchen Knife Funny Anime Moments

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:27:09am

re: #217 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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That’s when you play the tape back of him not wanting to cause a panic.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:30:54am

Trump: I didn’t want to cause a panic about covid
Trump: I want to cause a panic over:
* illegal immigrants coming to kill white suburban women
* MS13 gangbangers
* voter fraud
* protests against police brutality/excessive force
* BLM
* the lack of a border wall
* crime (which remains at or near historic multidecade lows)

All Trump does is cause panics, and his failures with covid19 induced panic too. Panic buying of toilet paper, paper towels, disinfectants, etc. Food shortages. Long lines at supermarkets and bare shelves.

Fuck ‘em and the GOP he rode in on.

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stpaulbear  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:31:44am

re: #24 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

People still buy music CDs??

I’m still buying both LPs and CDs, but since the shutdown I’ve been buying more CDs because LPs are more vulnerable to shipping damage and they’ve just gotten too expensive. I’ve got about the same number of CDs as LPs. The only music I stream is the Amazon library that’s accumulated due to actual CDs and LPs that I’ve purchased. This may be the most inexorably boomer thing about me. I’ve been collecting since junior high.

My rule for pandemic-era shopping is still that you only touch what you’re going to buy, so going to a record store has been out of the question. Just by the nature of browsing, everyone is touching everything in the store. I know my favorite store is severely limiting the number of people in the store and is asking customers to use hand sanitizer on the way in, but I’m not willing to do it. They do have curbside service (which I’ve used), but that only works if you know what you want. I’m not going to go looking for something cool in the used bins.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:32:52am

I’ve been going round and round with this dude for a couple days…he seemed mostly normal, but arrogant…today he did this…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:33:58am

re: #216 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, that’s messed up.

My wife agree on many things politically but not all. On those we don’t agree with, we each respect the others view. We may be married but we are two individual people who had vastly different upbringings and thus different views on certain aspects of our world.

But we still love each other and (thankfully) never fight over politics.

The same with my wife and me, though sometimes we get really loud about it. For a long time she was a member of the Libertarian Party, and at one time was the campaign treasurer for a US House candidate in Colorado.

She’s stopped furrowing her brow when she hands me my mail including the print edition of the Democratic Socialists’ magazine though.

She’s pointed out to people in town that if you ever want to hear the political issues of the day, just open your window at three am and you’ll get ‘em.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:36:52am

re: #226 Sufficient unto the day…

I’ve been going round and round with this dude for a couple days…he seemed mostly normal, but arrogant…today he did this…

Testing for asymptomatic people would be a waste of resources and time since that would mean more people would be leaving to get tested when they wouldn’t even know if they have COVID or not. It’s just illogical.—Dr. Goeferri Scolpanki

That’s why they never do screening tests for cancer or tuberculosis; it’s just illogical.

Is this chowderhead even a doctor?

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mmmirele  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:37:41am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It seems to me that religious people are the ones that are most eager to get their hands on young kids.

— Erich Kays

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You mean like “Child Evangelism Fellowship,” whose tactics include worming their way into schools with their “Good News Clubs” for elementary school students? I am unalterably against religion in taxpayer funded school based on personal experience of being harassed when 7 YO by my second grade teacher for not praying over my lunch.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:38:40am

re: #213 lawhawk

“He was defending Trump on my posts over his own wife,” she said. “I blocked him and he got very angry at me and didn’t talk to me for like five days. My husband is so much like Trump. He’s narcissistic. He’s white. He very much benefits from white supremacy and privilege,” she went on.

“He refuses to read any information that I’ve been reading because he says that he already knows everything.”

Sounds exactly right.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:44:52am

re: #222 Teukka

Be glad it was the marble rolling pin… /s

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Video

LOL, it’s not quite that bad here (yet).

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:46:35am

re: #226 Sufficient unto the day…

Just a cursory glance at his timeline makes me doubt he’s actually a doctor.

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A Cranky One  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:46:45am

re: #136 NetworkKed

I’m a big believer in buying whole albums - the full artistic document.

In this moment, it’s usually cheapest to buy on used CD, and usually less hassle to rip then to fully download files that you purchase. I don’t like to do that for artists I like since used means they get no money, but for very old or random stuff, I’ll do it that way.

Eventually the used media prices will go up - there simply won’t be enough in the pipeline.

Vinyl has this rep as being higher quality - technically that’s true, but it requires an impossibly high standard of playback tools to get that quality out of it. I’d like to see music distributors offering higher-quality digital output instead.

Vinyl is not higher quality by any technical standard. The dynamic range is less than half that provided by CD and the frequency response is much worse. In addition, there are lots of distortions introduced in the vinyl playback.

Now, many people find the euphonic distortion present in vinyl playback to be pleasing, with a “warmer” sound. And many CDs were produced without proper remixing and equalization, giving them a harsh sound (or the CD “sizzle” done by some idiot producers), which was unpleasant to listen to for any length of time.

I used to digitize albums and then challenge people to tell the difference between the vinyl playback and the digital playback made from the vinyl. No one could do it, because the digital version included the euphoric distortions introduced by the vinyl playback.

Back in my audiophile days, I had multiple cartridges that I used on my turntable. The differences between the cartridges were obvious on a high quality system. And none of them provided a fully accurate playback.

Properly done digital recording will be very accurate and will be indistinguishable from the original source. The key is “properly done”. That’s often lacking.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:46:58am

re: #205 lizardofid

Thanks!

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I can’t really answer those questions, except that all the redwood circles I’ve seen seemed to be much larger than any tree trunk could be (like six- plus meters) — but there’s very little old-growth forest around, and I haven’t seen much of it, so maybe they could get that large. As to sun and nutrients, the little ones can grow because the big one died and fell, leaving space in the canopy for sunlight and providing nutrients to the soil.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:48:06am

re: #226 Sufficient unto the day…

I’ve been going round and round with this dude for a couple days…he seemed mostly normal, but arrogant…today he did this…

I’m more qualified to speak on Africa. I’ve both heard of the place and been there.

This guy is a real douchecanoe.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:49:17am

re: #208 Belafon

That’s how the American Bradford Pair works as well. I keep having to cut the shoots off the roots of the one in my front yard every spring.

Yes, the university grounds maintenance people do the same thing every year or two to all the redwoods on the campus. All these years of it, and the trees look like they’re standing on pedestals.

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stpaulbear  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:50:31am

re: #68 Decatur Deb

For breakfast, I’ll open last night’s take-out fortune cookie. The family joke is that my fortunes are always vaguely threatening.

“You will find good fortune in love.” Threatening enough—Wife is in Denver for another week.

The most memorable fortune I had was “Send him flowers”, while having lunch with a friend before either of us had come out.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:51:19am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:53:52am

re: #238 Patricia Kayden

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I don’t think it’s crazy to predict this but I think Biden might actually do better than his polls are suggesting. People are exhausted and pissed.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:54:52am

re: #239 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I don’t think it’s crazy to predict this but I think Biden might actually do better than his polls are suggesting. People are exhausted and pissed.

And Woodward has more tapes to drop. I’ll be watching 60 Minutes this Sunday for the first time in years.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:55:57am

re: #217 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Talk about projection. I’m speechless.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:56:49am

re: #240 Patricia Kayden

And Woodward has more tapes to drop. I’ll be watching 60 Minutes this Sunday for the first time in years.

Tell those of us without televisions the juicy bits after you watch it.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:57:46am

On the morning of 9/11 I took a Japanese grad student to the DMV so that he could use my car for his driving test. As I was dropping him off afterwards I flipped on the radio to hear the BBC say a large plane had flown into a WTC tower. I was sure it was some “War of the Worlds” type stunt, though I couldn’t imagine why the BBC would do such a thing on a normal day. Then I got home to find my wife outside waiting for me holding our 4-month old son, tears streaming down her face. That afternoon I had to teach a discussion section, but there was no point. No one could focus. It was all a blur even in far-away Indiana.

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:57:55am

re: #233 A Cranky One

Vinyl is not higher quality by any technical standard. The dynamic range is less than half that provided by CD and the frequency response is much worse. In addition, there are lots of distortions introduced in the vinyl playback.

Now, many people find the euphonic distortion present in vinyl playback to be pleasing, with a “warmer” sound. And many CDs were produced without proper remixing and equalization, giving them a harsh sound (or the CD “sizzle” done by some idiot producers), which was unpleasant to listen to for any length of time.

I used to digitize albums and then challenge people to tell the difference between the vinyl playback and the digital playback made from the vinyl. No one could do it, because the digital version included the euphoric distortions introduced by the vinyl playback.

Back in my audiophile days, I had multiple cartridges that I used on my turntable. The differences between the cartridges were obvious on a high quality system. And none of them provided a fully accurate playback.

Properly done digital recording will be very accurate and will be indistinguishable from the original source. The key is “properly done”. That’s often lacking.

The argument over CD vs vinal reminds me of the fact that movie studios would produce movies that were lower resolution than home video recordings and yet push that they were better because of it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:59:24am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:59:39am

Oh, forgot to mention, 9/11 is my parents’ anniversary, so it’s been bittersweet since. But today my sister is driving them to a scenic BnB for the last anniversary that my father will likely be able to cognitively enjoy and engage with—it’s their 65th.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 8:59:57am

re: #240 Patricia Kayden

And Woodward has more tapes to drop. I’ll be watching 60 Minutes this Sunday for the first time in years.

Yep. There’s a lot on those tapes that really reveal him for what we’ve always known. I’m pissed. I was already angry as hell.

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stpaulbear  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:00:34am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We were moving a piano that day, I heard about reports of a plane attacking the Pentagon, I assumed it was a light plane, like the crazy fellow who tried to crash into the White House in 1994…

The full extent of it did not sink in until we got back home and turned on the TV.

I was driving to work when I heard about the plane and my first reaction was a quick laugh because I thought it must be a crazy pilot in a light plane too. My window at work looked onto the MN State Capitol across the street and very quickly we were wondering if we were going to witness it’s destruction too. Everything changed.

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sagehen  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:03:58am

re: #184 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Exactly. Maybe it’s because we’re still living it but the psych footprint of Covid is going to last a long time. I definitely feel it everyday. I look forward to the night the most because it’s when I can somewhat escape what’s going on with the most ease.

Not just a psych footprint.

Epigenetics researchers have found that people who lived through the London Blitz, or the siege of Stalingrad, or were in concentration camps… are changed at a cellular level, in ways that are inheritable. Any children they had after the war are measurably distinct from full siblings born before the war.

One of the studies they used to prove it was to subject a bunch of mice to Pavlovian training to make them fear a particular scent that mice wouldn’t normally be exposed to; descendants of those mice down to the third generation were born with a phobia about that scent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:04:05am

Fifty minutes ago. This guy can’t possibly be a physician.

“It would be a waste of funding to get these tuberculosis tests to screen teachers.”

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:04:09am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Quetzalcoatl?

Doubtful. It’s not a serpent. It’s from the Walker Bequest, once decorated the walls of a building in Teotihuacan.

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piratedan  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:04:18am

I have to admit, I only rarely buy the digital version of music… would rather have some media of some kind in my hands… simply because what guarantee do I have that the digital platform that I bought the music will be here in 10-15 years… I thought blockbuster would be around for a while… sears, jc penney, granted these are different retail organizations, but who knows what the future will bring, something tangible that I can touch and handle seems somehow comforting and in this world of so much change, sometimes a small thing like that matters.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:06:09am

re: #226 Sufficient unto the day…

I’ve been going round and round with this dude for a couple days…he seemed mostly normal, but arrogant…today he did this…

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he subtly moved the goalposts in every one of his tweets

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:06:43am

re: #222 Teukka

Be glad it was the marble rolling pin… /s

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I have a collection of Japanese knives too. 😁

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:08:32am

re: #235 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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I’m more qualified to speak on Africa. I’ve both heard of the place and been there.

This guy is a real douchecanoe.

he’s right
he is very little qualified to speak on this

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HRH Stanley Sea  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:08:55am

Conversation with my step-dad this morning

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mmmirele  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:09:35am

re: #191 makeitstop

I was doing freelance work at a real estate company that was in a building literally in the shadow of WTC. I got the gig from a coder friend of mine that recommended me.

He went into work that morning and we didn’t hear from him after trying to call and text him. We feared the worst, but it turns out he ended up walking across the Williamsburg Bridge and crashing at a friend’s apartment in Brooklyn for three days. We couldn’t get him on the phone because the attack pretty much destroyed cell communications in NYC for a long time. There was a big Verizon ops center in the basement of one of the towers.

That switch was the one my father was sent from Virginia to work on in 1993 after the bombing. At that time in his life, dad pretty much only sold phone systems for GTE/Verizon but the switch (actually a bunch of switches) was so important that he was pulled off sales and sent to do troubleshooting and repair. He met a lot of people from the Port Authority during that incident and yes, some of those people were killed on 9/11.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:09:48am

re: #237 stpaulbear

The most memorable fortune I had was “Send him flowers”, while having lunch with a friend before either of us had come out.

my most memorable was “Soon. And in good company.”

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lizardofid  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:09:53am

re: #234 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

I can’t really answer those questions, except that all the redwood circles I’ve seen seemed to be much larger than any tree trunk could be (like six- plus meters) — but there’s very little old-growth forest around, and I haven’t seen much of it, so maybe they could get that large. As to sun and nutrients, the little ones can grow because the big one died and fell, leaving space in the canopy for sunlight and providing nutrients to the soil.

Yes, the size of the circles caused me to wonder, as large as the trees in it are, how massive was, that long fallen giant.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:10:07am

re: #185 Sherlock Hound

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Q will have—may already have—blood on its hands. A dead certainty.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:15:23am

One of the “just missed it” 9/11 stories I remember most is the dude who was due to attend a business meeting that morning at Windows on the World and the only reason he didn’t go was because his wife insisted he go to a doctors appointment that morning he had intended to cancel instead.

He survived. Everyone who was at that meeting did not.

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calochortus  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:15:40am

re: #235 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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I’m more qualified to speak on Africa. I’ve both heard of the place and been there.

This guy is a real douchecanoe.

He’s also all but invisible when Googled. There’s his Twitter account and a couple cites for a website I’ve never heard of.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:16:17am

re: #260 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Addicted to Russian disinformation. What a world.

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steve_davis  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:19:36am

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

I was just unlocking the door to my apartment in Prague when my ex-wife (girlfriend at the time) called me and asked where I was. She then said, “You’d better turn on the TV - something really bad looks to be happening in New York City.”

I turned on the TV to ČT1 and they were carrying a live feed from BBC. And just in time to see the South Tower hit by United #175. It took a couple seconds for me to process that, because I immediately recalled a scene from the now-largely-forgotten film The Medusa Touch, where a 747 slams into a skyscraper. Except, of course, this was all too real.

And the world’s never been the same since.

I had just turned on Squawkbox to see a massive haze of dust coming from New York. I seem to recall a couple of the announcers were actually broadcasting from outside, speculating about what had happened, when the second plane flew in to the picture.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:19:56am
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stpaulbear  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:20:13am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

When all the other crap subsides, in a couple months, I want to pick brains about the current state of hi-fi. My good old speakers have lost their foam, and my cd-changer died.
The most techie of my kids makes me think no one cares about fidelity in the world of MP3 over smartphones.

There is a decent 2-channel audiophile community on YouTube. They’re all looking for affordable stuff and a lot of them are saying that it’s never been a better time for great gear, especially for speakers. There really is a lot of good affordable stuff out there right now. Elac speakers and the unfortunately named Schiit Electronics are worth looking at.

The Audiophiliac

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:21:13am
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:22:50am

re: #260 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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kill yourself and your children because you dont like who was just elected president?
before seeing what they do and how they behave? riiiiighhhht.

this is crackpot thinking
lunacy
idiocy

you survived 8 years of clinton, even that non-citizen, muslim obama

there is no way these people are real.
or serious.
or alternately, sane.

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nines09  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:23:37am

All of the news services, every asshole from coast to coast and the Trump were screaming about “Portland In Flames” and the nightmare of blah blah woof woof. For weeks.
Now as Oregon actually burns, and families and farms and entire towns are ruined and gone, not a single peep from them.
Must not fit the narrative.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:24:06am

The sun is up, I’m going to hit the rack.

Catch y’all later …

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:26:08am

re: #265 jaunte

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biden has apparently already cut trumps evangelical lead by 11 points
re: #114 dangerman

The “vice and virtue survey” predicts an 11 percentage point swing toward Biden among evangelicals and Catholics who backed Trump in 2016.

Apparently other polls have seen similar gains in Biden’s religious support.

Basically biden has some sincere religious chops that makes him somewhat attractive.

while trump is now being seen as a lying, empty religious suit/ exploiter for his own personal gain

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:28:48am
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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:35:31am

re: #54 Shropshire Slasher

John Daly (grip it and rip it) revealed he has bladder cancer. A friend of the family was diagnosed with that and lasted 8 weeks. Sucks to get old.

My husband had that; lost the top half of his bladder in surgery, then radiation, and survived.

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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:36:41am

re: #273 retired cynic

Should have added: we were told it was common among farmers who had handled farm chemicals.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:37:10am

re: #272 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

What kind of asshole would cut a dogs paws off?

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:41:34am
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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:42:01am

re: #161 The Pie Overlord!

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Can you imagine if Michelle Obama scowled her way through the pledge of allegiance?

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:43:19am
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danarchy  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:48:53am

re: #275 Eclectic Cyborg

What kind of asshole would cut a dogs paws off?

A future serial killer

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A Cranky One  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:52:48am

re: #80 Decatur Deb

When all the other crap subsides, in a couple months, I want to pick brains about the current state of hi-fi. My good old speakers have lost their foam, and my cd-changer died.
The most techie of my kids makes me think no one cares about fidelity in the world of MP3 over smartphones.

Refoaming speakers isn’t difficult, just need to be careful and pay attention to the alignment around the voice coil when you replace the foam. Many kits have spacers for that.

Replacing the foam will alter some of the parameters of the speaker (they will be different than the original parameters). Does that matter? Most people wouldn’t notice any difference in sound and I’ve been happy with the results on speakers I’ve reconed.

Another option is to replace the speaker drivers with new ones. Ideally, you could find drivers with the proper parameters (for the frequency crossovers and the box resonant tuning) and size. Lots of fairly inexpensive options out there.

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Jay C  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:54:21am

re: #271 dangerman

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biden has apparently already cut trumps evangelical lead by 11 points

I dunno: I get the feeling that that 11 points is likely to be the max Joe is going to pick up from that sector: I think that too much of the Religious Right (especially the fetus-fetish anti-abortion crowd) have just gone too much all-in for the Republican line, and put too much into backing Trump - unfit, irreligious asshole as he is - to shift much support to the candidate of a Party they have been shrieked at for decades as being the party of baby-killing, queer-loving, family-busting un-Christian Un-Americans. And also, Joe Biden, sincere Catholic as he may be, is going to catch flak from the hardcore abortion/contraception/homosexuality-phobic wing of his own Church - not, I think, that that will really damage his prospects much, but I’m sure we will be hearing more from that quarter (like that Bishop who grumped online that the Dems hadn’t nominated a “real Catholic”).

Oh, and by “support”, I mean PUBLIC support: I think a larger number of voters are going to be making their final decision in secret: as in secret ballot….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:54:27am

listening to the reading of names at the WTC. Some woman just went off on a rant about secret FBI investigations showing the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia provided direct material support to the 9/11 attacks

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:55:00am
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:55:13am
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:57:08am
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:57:50am

re: #284 DodgerFan1988

Giuliani’s reason for not suspecting Derkach as a Russian agent is that he didn’t tell him he was a Russian agent.

“But he was telling me what I wanted to hear.”

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Jay C  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:58:12am

re: #283 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Now THAT’S true class.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:59:00am

re: #266 stpaulbear

There is a decent 2-channel audiophile community on YouTube. They’re all looking for affordable stuff and a lot of them are saying that it’s never been a better time for great gear, especially for speakers. There really is a lot of good affordable stuff out there right now. Elac speakers and the unfortunately named Schiit Electronics are worth looking at.

The Audiophiliac

Thnx—bookmarked.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 9:59:23am

re: #282 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

listening to the reading of names at the WTC. Some woman just went off on a rant about secret FBI investigations showing the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia provided direct material support to the 9/11 attacks

ARGH. Stupid Loose Change motherfuckers.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:00:05am

re: #277 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Can you imagine if Michelle Obama scowled her way through the pledge of allegiance?

…sleeveless

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:00:16am

re: #284 DodgerFan1988

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I never thought I’d see Joe Walsh making sense but here we are. Rudy is a disgrace.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:00:38am

Inevitable RW spin: “Why is Biden so lazy?”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:03:17am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:03:17am

re: #289 Eclectic Cyborg

ARGH. Stupid Loose Change motherfuckers.

It was at the end of her turn reading off names. I wonder how vigorous the debate was about turning off her mike. It went on for at least a minute, maybe longer

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:03:46am

re: #281 Jay C

I dunno: I get the feeling that that 11 points is likely to be the max Joe is going to pick up from that sector: I think that too much of the Religious Right (especially the fetus-fetish anti-abortion crowd) have just gone too much all-in for the Republican line, and put too much into backing Trump - unfit, irreligious asshole as is - to shift much support to the candidate of a Party they have been shrieked at for decades as being the party of baby-killing, queer-loving, family-busting un-Christian Un-Americans. And also, Joe Biden, sincere Catholic as he may be, is going to catch flak from the hardcore abortion/contraception/homosexuality-phobic wing of his own Church - not, I think, that that will really damage his prospects much, but I’m sure we will be hearing more from that quarter (like that Bishop who grumped online that the Dems hadn’t nominated a “real Catholic”).

Oh, and by “support”, I mean PUBLIC support: I think a larger number of voters are going to be making their final decision in secret: as in secret ballot….

agreed

i think biden’s general religious nature added to trumps now obvious religious self-serving and expedient hypocrisy caused the 10 or 11 and that’s where it will sit

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:04:59am

re: #285 Patricia Kayden

I know too many people who get off on rewatching that footage, just to keep their hate going.

I’m the opposite. I don’t want to remember what I was doing on that day. We got our revenge. We made our enemy into fish food. We “won”. Next year’s commemoration (the 20th) is unavoidable (and also an unavoidable shitshow), but I want a pact, that in 2022, we will scale down the memorials to only those who truly feel the need to grieve on that day. Everyone else can get back to work and stop the performative hate and false grief.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:06:02am

re: #284 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

er, Rudy.
that’s not how ‘suspecting’ works.
you’d know that if you were a lawyer, or a federal prosecutor (or any prosecutor) or a big city mayor….oh wait…

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:08:05am
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:08:41am

re: #292 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]

Inevitable RW spin: “Why is Biden so lazy?”

i think i read they made this decision days ago

today’s electoral-vote.com

If the President would like TV all to himself for a day, today is his chance. To honor the people who died in the attacks on America on Sept. 11, 2001, Joe Biden pulled all of his advertising until tomorrow. It’s a pretty shrewd move—a respectful gesture, a cost savings, and a dare to the President to gauchely take advantage of the opportunity. That’s three for the price of one. Watch your TV today (perhaps tuning into Fox News on occasion) to see how Team Trump plays it.

it’s early yet. there’s still time.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:10:40am
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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:12:03am

re: #293 Charles Johnson

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EZ
cancelled checks?
payroll tax forms?
anything?

Two days after the 9/11 attack @realDonaldTrump was at Ground Zero with hundreds of workers that he paid of his own pocket to help find and identify victims.

oh, you say ‘of his own pocket” means cash?
ok
bank withdrawals?
still payroll taxes
anyone willing to come forward as one of them who also paid taxes on the money?

not a chance

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:12:46am
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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:13:08am

re: #161 The Pie Overlord!

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Trump can only memorize 5 words, maximum. Man, woman, person, camera, TV.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:15:45am

re: #302 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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i’m nearly 63
i feel 48

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Charles Johnson  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:18:40am
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A Cranky One  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:19:20am

re: #281 Jay C

I dunno: I get the feeling that that 11 points is likely to be the max Joe is going to pick up from that sector: I think that too much of the Religious Right (especially the fetus-fetish anti-abortion crowd) have just gone too much all-in for the Republican line, and put too much into backing Trump - unfit, irreligious asshole as he is - to shift much support to the candidate of a Party they have been shrieked at for decades as being the party of baby-killing, queer-loving, family-busting un-Christian Un-Americans. And also, Joe Biden, sincere Catholic as he may be, is going to catch flak from the hardcore abortion/contraception/homosexuality-phobic wing of his own Church - not, I think, that that will really damage his prospects much, but I’m sure we will be hearing more from that quarter (like that Bishop who grumped online that the Dems hadn’t nominated a “real Catholic”).

Oh, and by “support”, I mean PUBLIC support: I think a larger number of voters are going to be making their final decision in secret: as in secret ballot….

Republicans have been literally calling democrats demons for years. So compromise is no longer possible because you don’t make deals with the “devil”.

And since Trump is battling the devil, he must be the messiah.

Now excuse me while I get to some devilish business. Like puking at the stupidity of so many people.

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:21:50am

“…At the end of the day, the particular findings of Ligonier’s 2020 State of Theology Survey with respect to evangelical respondents’ attitudes and trends may or may not precisely reflect America’s evangelical population. Nevertheless, the project and its packaging neatly illustrate white evangelicals’ political and social concerns, and they certainly do nothing to call into question the likelihood that the white evangelical electorate will once again give Donald Trump 80% or more of its vote.”

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:27:16am

re: #246 Barefoot Grin

Oh, forgot to mention, 9/11 is my parents’ anniversary, so it’s been bittersweet since. But today my sister is driving them to a scenic BnB for the last anniversary that my father will likely be able to cognitively enjoy and engage with—it’s their 65th.

It is my middle sons birthday. That day really screwed up his 10th BDay.

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Interesting Times  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:30:04am

re: #302 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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So the only age group Cheeto Benito wins is the 50-64 (old GenX/young Boomer) block. Why? Drunk on childhood Reagan memories? And instead of the Cold War they lived through making them wary of Russia, they instead respond Pavlovian-style to any invocation of the word “socialism”?

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:31:37am

re: #305 Charles Johnson

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In one sentence what it took me 4 paragraphs to write this morning

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jaunte  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:31:58am
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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:37:02am

re: #309 Interesting Times

So the only age group Cheeto Benito wins is the 50-64 (old GenX/young Boomer) block. Why? Drunk on childhood Reagan memories? And instead of the Cold War they lived through making them wary of Russia, they instead respond Pavlovian-style to any invocation of the word “socialism”?

Far too many people my age are in the IGMFY category.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:37:22am

re: #309 Interesting Times

So the only age group Cheeto Benito wins is the 50-64 (old GenX/young Boomer) block. Why? Drunk on childhood Reagan memories? And instead of the Cold War they lived through making them wary of Russia, they instead respond Pavlovian-style to any invocation of the word “socialism”?

Mad Magazine proposed that Cool skips generations.

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dangerman  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:38:04am

re: #293 Charles Johnson

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Patriot to the country??

This guy?
Ny daily news

The Trump administration has secretly siphoned nearly $4 million away from a program that tracks and treats FDNY firefighters and medics suffering from 9/11 related illnesses,” the New York Daily News reports.

“The Treasury Department mysteriously started withholding parts of payments — nearly four years ago — meant to cover medical services for firefighters, emergency medical technicians and paramedics treated by the FDNY World Trade Center Health Program.”

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Belafon  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:38:10am

re: #313 Decatur Deb

Mad Magazine proposed that Cool skips generations.

We were the generation first raised on TV.

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EPR-radar  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:44:09am

re: #307 jaunte

World view and politics are strongly related. Anyone in the US whose world view includes support for civilization needs to vote straight ticket D in general elections because Republicans are barbarians.

So the problem with right wing evangelicals is not the link they make between their world view and their politics. The problem with right wing evangelicals is that their world view is evil and corrupt, and that naturally shows up in their politics.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 11, 2020 • 10:57:22am

re: #302 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I hate being in the only age bracket that is favoring tRump.

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lawhawk  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:03:23am

re: #250 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He’s a self professed Doc who claims to be a brain surgeon.

There’s no indication that he actually has a medical practice anywhere. Odds are it’s a troll/bot.

Brain surgeons weren’t treating ebola patients. Different speciality.

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b_sharp  Sep 11, 2020 • 11:11:16am

re: #39 dangerman

Hanging out playing vinyl through stereo speakers was far more social and interactive than putting in ear buds and pressing shuffle.

I really need to repair my turntable and throw our old vinyl at it.

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retired cynic  Sep 11, 2020 • 2:48:47pm

re: #318 lawhawk

He’s a self professed Doc who claims to be a brain surgeon.

[Embedded content]

There’s no indication that he actually has a medical practice anywhere. Odds are it’s a troll/bot.

Brain surgeons weren’t treating ebola patients. Different speciality.

That guy may be real. Look at Dr. Ben Carson. But notice his pinned tweet? He really is persecuted, and goes out of his way to seek it.

And oops. I’ve missed a huge thread jump. Sigh.

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Khal Wimpo (not drinking damn fish tank cleaner)  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:23:24am

re: #226 Sufficient unto the day…

I’ve been going round and round with this dude for a couple days…he seemed mostly normal, but arrogant…today he did this…

[Embedded content]

Thank you for this. Just ran “Twitter BlockChain” on this account and saved myself from the freakazoid QAnons and barking mad right-wingers that were RT’ing angry “BLESS JESUS TRUMP!” shit back at this loon.


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