New Audio Excerpts From Woodward’s Book: Trump Says, “Nothing More Could Have Been Done” About COVID as He Obsesses Over the Stock Market

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There’s nothing really surprising here — we all knew Trump is a delusional narcissist after all — but it’s still remarkably disgusting to hear him speak about this when he thinks the public won’t hear him.

Bottom line: Donald Trump’s failure to deal with COVID-19 was not a mistake and it wasn’t a fluke. He chose exactly the wrong path at every turn, deliberately — because he simply feels nothing for the citizens of this country. The only important thing to him, ever, in all this horrible mess, was getting re-elected. And he thought he could do this by lying to the public about the extent of this killer disease. He let hundreds of thousands of people die deliberately, with full knowledge.

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:45:20am

More could have been done.

Trump could have moved heaven and earth to get testing kits to NYC metro to contain spread before it killed 10s of thousands, including 2 people I knew, all while sickening tens of thousands more.

He could have pushed nationwide masking/social distancing mandates that would slow spread and given time to contain small pockets of outbreaks without causing economy to collapse. He could have followed the fucking playbook he inherited. He could have not disbanded the pandemic prevention teams (supposedly cost cutting measure, which looks pathetic now that we’re spending trillions to try and prop up the economy and it teeters on the precipe of another collapse because the nation still knows covid19 is a threat).

Most Americans know covid19 is serious and deadly real. Trump’s know nothing base doesn’t care, and that has dire repercussions. Trump hasn’t addressed domestic or international air travel. He loves to tout that he shut down travel to China and Europe, except that he didn’t. He has no screening or mandated rules on masking/social distancing on flights, that would help improve air safety for passengers and crew alike - along with a sense of consistency around airlines dealing with the problem of unruly Trumpists who refuse to mask up and make scenes and cause mayhem and delays.

Trump’s done absolutely everything wrong, and we got containment in many parts of the country despite Trump and his know nothing base. The same people attacking Cuomo for shutting down the state are attacking Cuomo for nursing home deaths (at a time when Trump refused to make more tests available or refused to move resources ASAP to NYC). NY was coping with a mass casualty event, and Trump was too busy golfing to care.

Same as now.

He doesn’t care.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:47:55am
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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:50:01am

he could have simply not weaponized / politicized mask wearing

it is september 2020 and trump supporters don’t wear masks.

there is no consideration of health or saving lives, community, etc. only that (not) mask wearing is an expression of political identity

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:51:29am

Genocide.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:53:58am

re: #4 teleskiguy

Genocide.

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Nazi shit.

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:53:59am

re: #3 dangerman

he could have simply not weaponized / politicized mask wearing

it is september 2020 and trump supporters don’t wear masks.

there is no consideration of health or saving lives, community, etc. only that (not) mask wearing is an expression of political identity

I have a colleague who had to drive from NY to WY after visiting family. They drove through the Dakotas. Not a single person to be seen wearing masks in stores/businesses. It’s as though they think covid isn’t a thing (it is).

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b_sharp  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:55:10am

re: #6 lawhawk

I have a colleague who had to drive from NY to WY after visiting family. They drove through the Dakotas. Not a single person to be seen wearing masks in stores/businesses. It’s as though they think covid isn’t a thing (it is).

Here in Saskatchewan, it’s not a lot better. Maybe 15% of people wear masks.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:55:14am
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Teukka  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:56:09am

re: #4 teleskiguy

Genocide.

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Yep. Article 2, point (d). Universal jurisdiction applies.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:57:36am
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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:57:46am

I had phone conversation with a friend in northern Michigan this weekend, he lives near Torch Lake. He was apoplectic at the cavalier attitude the locals have been taking with the virus, he said most of them think it’s fake. He wears a mask in public and gets jeered at daily.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:59:06am

re: #11 teleskiguy

I had phone conversation with a friend in northern Michigan this weekend, he lives near Torch Lake. He was apoplectic at the cavalier attitude the locals have been taking with the virus, he said most of them think it’s fake. He wears a mask in public and gets jeered at daily.

Mask wearing here in the DFW and surrounding area is > 90%.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:00:41pm
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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:00:48pm

re: #6 lawhawk

I have a colleague who had to drive from NY to WY after visiting family. They drove through the Dakotas. Not a single person to be seen wearing masks in stores/businesses. It’s as though they think covid isn’t a thing (it is).

you lead from the top / front
he set the narrative

if he did nothing else, addressing these two things differently from the start:
- the narrative (this is serious)
- the masks

by themselves would have made a huge difference

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:01:48pm

re: #12 Belafon

Mask wearing here in the DFW and surrounding area is > 90%.

It’s close to 100% here in Colorado. That’s because we have a statewide mask mandate. Most, if not all businesses won’t let you through the front door if you don’t have a mask.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:02:10pm

re: #7 b_sharp

Here in Saskatchewan, it’s not a lot better. Maybe 15% of people wear masks.

thankfully, here my corner of broward county, florida it’s like 95+%

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:02:15pm

re: #14 dangerman

you lead from the top / front
he set the narrative

if he did nothing else, addressing these two things differently from the start:
- the narrative (this is serious)
- the masks

by themselves would have made a huge difference

he called it a democrat hoax

they are simply showing how much the support and believe in their chosen leader

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:05:31pm

Pretty mask heavy here. Saw that there were zero deaths reported in my county yesterday and only one in the neighboring one which is bigger and where I grew up and will be moving back to. Happy with how Northern Va has responded to Covid but it’s not over yet.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:06:02pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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Only 15 cases and it will be zero very soon!

Edit: This is in reference to his statement:
Trump on climate change: “It’ll start getting cooler. You just watch … I don’t think science knows, actually.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:07:43pm

re: #7 b_sharp

Here in Saskatchewan, it’s not a lot better. Maybe 15% of people wear masks.

But Canada has it pretty well under control.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:09:42pm

Another Republican with no regard for human life.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:15:24pm

re: #20 NO SMOCKING GUN!

But Canada has it pretty well under control.

Heard no deaths reported on Saturday I believe. God I wish we could be anywhere close to that.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:15:59pm

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Another Republican with no regard for human life.

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That picture almost looks like his facial features were added later.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:16:36pm

re: #12 Belafon

Mask wearing here in the DFW and surrounding area is > 90%.

Also here in the San Francisco Bay Area (lots of us cheat by walking the empty streets and pulling up the face covering when passing other people — I count that as compliance).

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:20:37pm

re: #22 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Heard no deaths reported on Saturday I believe. God I wish we could be anywhere close to that.

My county is (was) high on the list for numbers of new cases, my state is California, but in my little town of 122,000, we’ve had a total of six deaths. I attribute it to early and near-total compliance with masking rules.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:21:28pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

Genocide.

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So much for those so-called pro-lifers…And DOUBLE FUCK THE CATHOLIC BISHOPS WHO ARE ABSOLUTELY SILENT ON THIS!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:25:13pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:29:40pm
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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:32:05pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Just because, here’s two of my favorites…

Foo Fighters - Learn To Fly

Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit (Official Music Video)

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:33:52pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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b_sharp  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:38:13pm

re: #16 dangerman

thankfully, here my corner of broward county, florida it’s like 95+%

Alberta and Saskatchewan are the Texas of Canada. Here in SK. we’ve had very few cases so everyone exercises their anti-mask stupid muscle.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:40:22pm
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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:41:13pm

One of the greatest…

Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime (Official Video)

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:41:16pm

Well, I agree that FF’s Learn to Fly is the greatest music video of all time .. but not the official one… this one is:

Learn to Fly - Foo Fighters Rockin1000 Official Video

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:41:57pm

re: #31 b_sharp

Alberta and Saskatchewan are the Texas of Canada. Here in SK. we’ve had very few cases so everyone exercises their anti-mask stupid muscle.

Texas went on lockdown early. The governor tried to keep from having to do the mask order, but finally gave in. Mask wearing went from about 40% to over 90% after his order.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:42:49pm

re: #31 b_sharp

Alberta and Saskatchewan are the Texas of Canada. Here in SK. we’ve had very few cases so everyone exercises their anti-mask stupid muscle.

Outside of Houston in by-God Texas. Mask-wearing is over 90%, easily, due to this simple thing called a “mandate.”

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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:43:14pm

re: #34 Florida Panhandler

Well, I agree that FF’s Learn to Fly is the greatest music video of all time .. but not the official one… this one is:

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I considered that one too but I do get a laugh out of the official one.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:43:26pm

I nominate this video for a greatest of all time

When a virus comes along, you must whip it.

Devo - Whip It (Video)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:43:30pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:45:56pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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Sledgehammer is another great Gabriel video.

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Mattand  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:47:20pm

re: #7 b_sharp

Here in Saskatchewan, it’s not a lot better. Maybe 15% of people wear masks.

I know a woman from Victoria, BC who was all in on the Plandemic/Faucci is a fraud bullshit.

She just had her first kid like 6 weeks ago, so she was a full COVID “skeptic” for the last half of her pregnancy.

I’ve heard Alberta and SK get compared to the US Bible Belt. Does BC have some province-specific quirks that your average American isn’t aware of?

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Mattand  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:47:49pm

re: #38 BlueSpotinAL

I nominate this video for a greatest of all time

When a virus comes along, you must whip it.

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Fun fact: I learned how to play this song with Rock Band 3.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:47:57pm

When the quotes from Woodward’s book first dropped last week and we heard that Donny didn’t want to “cause a panic,” it was pointed out that the panic he really wanted to avoid was in the stock market. And I pointed out how he didn’t seem to deviate from that course until the markets reacted to the states/cities taking action by shitting the bed.

If you really think about it, his aversion to shutdowns and masks makes total sense as efforts to keep the markets happy. Especially when you notice that the markets really began their “recovery” in the weeks leading up to Memorial Day and have only gotten shaky whenever there’s been the suggestion that lockdowns could happen again or profits/productivity might undershoot estimates due to consumer shakiness.

The whole plan/goal of Donny trying to play down the severity of CV-19 and avoiding shutdowns had to do with worries (since justified) that if people stayed home due to businesses being closed or avoided open businesses because of masks, then the markets would take a shit and rob him of his “GREATEST ECONOMY EVAH!!!!” talking point for reelection. It was a calculated gamble…by a guy who is seriously bad at math.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:48:55pm
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sagehen  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:49:18pm

nbcnewyork.com

Huge dance party in Washington Square Park this weekend.

No social distancing very few masks. Gross. After everything we went through less than 6 months ago…

The cops should take down their names, and NYU can expel them and keep their tuition money.

I say again, GROSS.

Manhattan NEY YORK / NYU Students Suspended, Hundreds Caught Partying at Park 9.5.20

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:50:36pm

Major QAnon site busted and shut down.

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:54:40pm

The egregious gaslighting around Trump’s handling of the pandemic, Philip Bump, WaPo

washingtonpost.com

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:56:26pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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i’m an olds
so if it’s not the entire Monkees TV series, it’s Thriller.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:56:48pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

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here in TheBackwoods forestland, most times when a tree falls, it just rots down to excellent spongy compost.

Trees here generally “explode” when struck by lightning.

Pretty sure it works the same way in most of forests in this hemisphere.

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Mattand  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:56:52pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

I had phone conversation with a friend in northern Michigan this weekend, he lives near Torch Lake. He was apoplectic at the cavalier attitude the locals have been taking with the virus, he said most of them think it’s fake. He wears a mask in public and gets jeered at daily.

My corner of South Jersey seems to have its shit together regarding mask wearing.

Not everyone though. We just tried a new pizza place a few weeks ago. The second time I went in there, there’s this little old guy with no mask off to the side of the register, making small chat with every (masked) customer who comes in.

The kid behind the register was wearing a mask, and old dude was at least 10 feet from the counter. Still, he had a little bit of a COVIDiot-esque smirk on his face.

If he’s there next time I order, I’m going to ask “Y U NO MASK?” Quite frankly, depending on the answer, I may stop going there.

Also, I’m worried my dentist neighbor is in the whole “Yeah, it’s just a flu” camp. He said they’ve got all sorts of protocols in place, but he dropped in a little aside about “You know, such and such virus lasts 9 months longer than COVID on surfaces.”

I was honestly too unsure of what he was saying to respond. He also had his 3 year old with him, so it probably wasn’t the best time to challenge him if was going Full Metal No Big Deal.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:57:03pm

Llre: #32 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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DeTrumpification and trials please with Trump as main defendant.

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aatharuv  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:58:10pm

re: #36 BlueGrl21

Outside of Houston in by-God Texas. Mask-wearing is over 90%, easily, due to this simple thing called a “mandate.”

What’s different about Texas from the rest of the so-called anti-government states? We need just about 100% not just over 90%, but the latter is better than so many of the rest of the “Red” states. Mandates have been honored in the breach in so many places, and there have been enough sheriffs stating they won’t enforce them.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 12:58:55pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

here in TheBackwoods forestland, most times when a tree falls, it just rots down to excellent spongy compost.

Trees here generally “explode” when struck by lightning.

Pretty sure it works the same way in most of forests in this hemisphere.

physics is the same everywhere (more or less)

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:00:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:00:38pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:01:12pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:02:50pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:02:57pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

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It’s honestly scary how social media has played a big role in shaping international politics in the past ten years or so. It’s really easy to manipulate people and I see it daily on FB.

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Mattand  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:03:51pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

Want to double your chances of getting Covid?
Simple, eat out inside a restaurant and your odds double.

The unfortunate corollary to my report on my neck of the woods above is NJ is allowing 25% capacity in restaurants and people were tripping over themselves to go to this weekend.

Absolutely fucking insane. Were people this ignorant in 1918? How the hell did we ever get through this if we were?

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:05:02pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson
If I didn’t know this is from 2002, I’d think it was about America in 2020.

Tom Waits - “God’s Away On Business”

God’s Away On Business

I’d sell your heart to the junkman
Baby, for a buck, for a buck
If you’re looking for someone to pull you uut of that ditch
You’re out of luck, you’re out of luck
Ship is sinking
The ship is sinking
The ship is sinking
There’s leak, there’s a leak, in the boiler room
The poor, the lame, the blind
Who are the ones that we kept in charge?
Killers, thieves, and lawyers
God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business
Business
God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business
Business
Digging up the dead with a shovel and a pick
It’s a job, it’s a job
Bloody moon rising with a plague and a flood
Join the mob, join the mob
It’s all over, it’s all over, it’s all over
And there’s a leak, there’s a leak, in the boiler room
The poor, the lame, the blind
Who are the ones that we kept in charge?
Killers, thieves, and lawyers
God’s away, God’s away, God’s away
On Business
Business
God’s away, God’s away
On Business
Business, ha
Goddamn there’s always such a big temptation
To be good, to be good
There’s always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby
It’s a deal, it’s a deal
God’s away, God’s away, God’s away
On business
Business
God’s away, God’s away, God’s away
On business
Business
I narrow my eyes like a coin slot baby
Let her ring, let her ring
God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business
God’s away, God’s away
God’s away on business, business

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:05:07pm

re: #57 jaunte

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Here’s the truth. He was unable to lead because he finally got a crisis that he couldn’t weasel out of. This is the natural coincidence of wanting a “straight talker who tells things as they are”, “an outsider”, and a “successful businessman.” Trump having zero elected experienced should have been a huge warning to people but it wasn’t. They just wanted the fresh meat about the wall, the Clintons, and whatever else was chipping Trump’s asshole at the moment.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:06:07pm

re: #52 aatharuv

What’s different about Texas from the rest of the so-called anti-government states? We need just about 100% not just over 90%, but the latter is better than so many of the rest of the “Red” states. Mandates have been honored in the breach in so many places, and there have been enough sheriffs stating they won’t enforce them.

A couple of reasons I can think of:
1. We have a lot of people here not originally from Texas, or even the United States. That gives us way more viewpoints.
2. I’m sure businesses started telling Abbott that the only way people were going to go back to buying and selling was if people wore masks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:08:53pm

If we’re talking great music videos, this one has to be in the mix:

Johnny Cash - Hurt (Official Music Video)

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:09:10pm

re: #19 Eventual Carrion

Only 15 cases and it will be zero very soon!

Edit: This is in reference to his statement:
Trump on climate change: “It’ll start getting cooler. You just watch … I don’t think science knows, actually.”

Being as it’s September, and winter is coming… yeah, okay, it’ll start getting cooler soon. At least for awhile.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:09:45pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

If we’re talking great music videos, this one has to be in the mix:

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I’d love to hear what Johnny would have to say or sing about a guy like Trump.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:11:38pm

re: #29 William Lewis

Just because, here’s two of my favorites…

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I am kind of partial to this one:

The Replacements - Bastards Of Young (Video)

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:11:53pm

re: #65 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’d love to hear what Johnny would have to say or sing about a guy like Trump.

It might look something like this

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IngisKahn  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:14:33pm

Any Tool video

TOOL - Prison Sex

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:14:37pm
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sagehen  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:18:38pm

This… THIS, RIGHT HERE, is the greatest music video of all time.

Say Hey (I Love You)

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jeffreyw  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:18:38pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:19:47pm

re: #52 aatharuv

What’s different about Texas from the rest of the so-called anti-government states? We need just about 100% not just over 90%, but the latter is better than so many of the rest of the “Red” states. Mandates have been honored in the breach in so many places, and there have been enough sheriffs stating they won’t enforce them.

Here in Kentucky I report mask violations on the state website.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:22:28pm
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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:23:13pm

re: #57 jaunte

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the virus doesnt give a fuck that you are tired of not ‘living your normal lives’

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:27:03pm

re: #73 gocart mozart

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he’s just like sondland

gave $1M
got an ambassadorship
zero experience

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:29:07pm

I was hoping for an R.J. Fletcher moment on the Woodward tapes. Oh well. I guess there’s still a chance Trump really loses when he doesn’t think anyone is listening.

The R J Fletcher School of Diplomacy

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Nojay UK  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:30:33pm

Cast of thousands, one uninterrupted take…

OK Go - I Won’t Let You Down - Official Video

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:37:56pm

An underrated one IMO

Mad World - Gary Jules

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:38:51pm

deleted by me, duplicate

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:39:33pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

November Rain is an epic song and the video is definitely great. Other music videos that are up there:

Michael Jackson’s Thriller (the unabridged long version, because yeah):

Michael Jackson - Thriller (Official Video)

Peter Gabriel’s Sledgehammer
Genesis: Land of Confusion
Soundgarden: Black Hole Sun

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:39:41pm

re: #76 GlutenFreeJesus

I was hoping for an R.J. Fletcher moment on the Woodward tapes. Oh well. I guess there’s still a chance Trump really loses when he doesn’t think anyone is listening.

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Every time I see Louis DeJoy’s forced rictus of a smile, I see a balder version of Kevin McCarthy’s (the actor, not the current Republican House Minority Leader, that is) R.J. Fletcher.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:41:03pm

re: #74 dangerman

The fuck your feelings crowd wants the virus (or some placeholder) to care about theirs.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:41:51pm
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Florida Panhandler  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:41:51pm

re: #75 dangerman

Reason #3,456 of Why Republican Voters are Full of 100% Shit when they complain about “The Swamp” or a “Deep State.”

The ONLY concern of modern Republicanism is how effective a politician or appointment candidate can be in promoting and enforcing White Supremacism.. and that’s all.

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:42:35pm

The egregious gaslighting around Trump’s handling of the pandemic, Philip Bump, WaPo

washingtonpost.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:48:28pm

So I got two of these lovely forms within the last month, the latest one today:

StarTrib: GOP-slanted mailers to Minnesotans have tie to Kanye West campaign

I’ve also been getting spam texts from the Trump campaign. These vultures have absolutely no respect; I didn’t ask them to message me about any of this.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:48:59pm

re: #83 jaunte

Gee, we are getting more like China everyday: Both have dictators, both are engaged in genocide.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:50:29pm

Fact check: Trump makes four false claims in one sentence

cnn

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:51:45pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

here in TheBackwoods forestland, most times when a tree falls, it just rots down to excellent spongy compost.

Trees here generally “explode” when struck by lightning.

Pretty sure it works the same way in most of forests in this hemisphere.

Closest I have ever been to an exploding tree is about a quarter of a mile. Lightning hit a maybe 30 or 40 foot pine tree. I was inside with windows closed and dang it was LOUD. Next day went looking for it - it was pretty obvious which tree got ‘sploded. But what do I know - maybe it exploded cuz nobody had been raking the woods near that tree.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:53:58pm

re: #89 Jebediah, RBG

We were on the receiving end of a lightning strike in the back yard a few years ago, maybe 200 feet away, tops. It sounded like a bomb going off - which, given the damage, it pretty much was. The next morning, there was 3/4 of a tree laying in our yard, along with a bunch of wood shards.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:54:16pm

The Boy Who Cried Wolf The President Who Cried Voter Fraud

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:54:34pm

re: #88 dangerman

Fact check: Trump makes four false claims in one sentence

cnn

His lying about Dr. McCabe ( Andrews wife) really infuriate me because there was a big reason why the Dems spent heavy in our senate district. We were trying to flip the majority and McCabe’s opponent was a huge homophobic asshole who also wrote letters to Assad and denied that spousal rape was real. Thankfully he’s gone now.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:55:15pm

re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg

The Boy Who Cried Wolf The President Who Cried Voter Fraud

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Your supporters would be enthusiastic if you pooped on them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:56:27pm

re: #93 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I love how he also rags Biden for not having crowds.

Gee, I wonder why Joe wouldn’t have crowds in a pandemic…..hmmm…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:57:31pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

I love how he also rags Biden for not having crowds.

Gee, I wonder why Joe wouldn’t have crowds in a pandemic…..hmmm…

It’s so pathetic. All he cares is about is being popular rather than being a leader.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:58:11pm

re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg

The Boy Who Cried Wolf The President Who Cried Voter Fraud

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Rasmussen had Hillary winning the popular vote by 1.7%, she instead won it by 2.1%.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2020 • 1:58:11pm

re: #56 jaunte

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HEAD ASPLODE

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:04:59pm

One of these critters is going home with me! Saw these on Nextdoor and went to see them. Hope she likes the plane ride (in a carrier of course, with a blanket). Haven’t decided on a name but I was thinking about “Pekoe” after the orange tea grade.

I found these orange tabby kittens under the stairwell outside my apartment with a bowl of water, clearly dumped there. There were 5 but I was able to find 3 of them homes and have two females remaining. I have reached out to rescues in the city but no luck with any of them being able to take them in. I am unable to keep them due to pet limits in my complex and an older cat that has not been friendly to them.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:07:51pm

re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg

The Boy Who Cried Wolf The President Who Cried Voter Fraud

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crowds <> votes

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:10:55pm

Yeah, rally attendance and crowd enthusiasm is a totally accurate gauge of a candidate’s chances, just ask Bernie Sanders.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:11:13pm

re: #90 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We were on the receiving end of a lightning strike in the back yard a few years ago, maybe 200 feet away, tops. It sounded like a bomb going off - which, given the damage, it pretty much was. The next morning, there was 3/4 of a tree laying in our yard, along with a bunch of wood shards.

Whoa! Way too close for comfort!

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:12:22pm

re: #99 dangerman

crowds <> votes

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ps
an unenthusiastic vote for biden counts just as much as an enthusiastic vote for biden

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:12:39pm

At this point, does it really need to be pointed out that Donny’s entire “forest management” bit is about pleasing his buddies in the logging business who want permission to go in and “management” CA’s forests into piles of lumber?

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:16:04pm

re: #103 Targetpractice

At this point, does it really need to be pointed out that Donny’s entire “forest management” bit is about pleasing his buddies in the logging business who want permission to go in and “management” CA’s forests into piles of lumber?

he made that comment
paraphrasing: we have do do some cutting. people dont like it…

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:16:36pm

re: #90 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I lived in Massachusetts at the time, not exactly an arid area - those pine trees had a LOT of sap. I understand that it’s the sap being rapidly boiled that blows up the tree. I was a kid at the time, and the damage to that tree helped me get a better handle on how insanely much energy lightning bolts carry.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:20:06pm

Arghhhhhh

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:21:07pm

re: #101 Jebediah, RBG

Whoa! Way too close for comfort!

Yeah. The lightning flash pretty much lit up the house like daylight and the impact of the thunder could be felt. I didn’t even hear the tree go down - I just saw it the next morning, laying out in the yard. I was picking up chunks of charred wood for a month.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:22:03pm

re: #98 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

One of these critters is going home with me! Saw these on Nextdoor and went to see them. Hope she likes the plane ride (in a carrier of course, with a blanket). Haven’t decided on a name but I was thinking about “Pekoe” after the orange tea grade.

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The one on the left looks friendlier, and more curious.

(but I’m a dog person, so what do I know…)

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:25:18pm
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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:27:11pm

re: #109 Charles Johnson

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Pennsylvania, making the same news 102 years later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:27:49pm

re: #48 dangerman

i’m an olds
so if it’s not the entire Monkees TV series, it’s Thriller.

Thriller indeed!
and if we’re talking specific “rain” videos, then it’s Purple Rain or STFU.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:29:42pm

re: #107 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah. The lightning flash pretty much lit up the house like daylight and the impact of the thunder could be felt. I didn’t even hear the tree go down - I just saw it the next morning, laying out in the yard. I was picking up chunks of charred wood for a month.

I’m still kinda agog that you were only 200 feet from a lightning strike. So much light and so much loud!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:30:13pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thriller indeed!
and if we’re talking specific “rain” videos, then it’s Purple Rain or STFU.

Kate Bush—Cloudbusting

Kate Bush - Cloudbusting HD LPR remastering (The Whole Story 2015)

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:32:00pm

i posted this bit about ohio earlier today
guess it is true

The Trump campaign is canceling TV ad schedules that been booked for this week in multiple states including Iowa, Ohio and Nevada, according to Medium Buying.

However, the campaign appears to be going back up on air in Arizona and Pennsylvania markets.

considered lost causes? (they’re not too bright, remember)
oh wait, no. In the bag! we dont need to advertise at all.
who knows?
out of money?
who cares!

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:33:38pm

re: #112 Jebediah, RBG

I’m still kinda agog that you were only 200 feet from a lightning strike. So much light and so much loud!

it is a visceral, stark, and instant reminder of who’s in charge
(and who ain’t)

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:33:52pm

re: #48 dangerman

i’m an olds
so if it’s not the entire Monkees TV series, it’s Thriller.

Thriller is super high on the list for me. So is November Rain (though I bet Trump only likes it because of the wedding dress). I also love Cryin’ and Amazing by Aerosmith. For newer videos, Beyonce’s Hold Up is incredible.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:34:32pm

re: #115 dangerman

it is a visceral, stark, and instant reminder of who’s in charge
(and who ain’t)

What’s worse is that I live on the side of a hill, and the tree that got hit was at the bottom of the hill - most definitely was NOT the tallest thing in the area. It left me terrified of what else might get hit on the hillside during a future thunderstorm.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:34:40pm
“The Justice Department’s Office of the Inspector General has begun investigating the circumstances surrounding the sentencing recommendation for Roger Stone, a longtime friend of President Trump,” NBC News reports.

“The investigation is focused on events in February, according to the two sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity, when prosecutors for Stone have said they were told to seek a lighter sentence for Stone than they had previously considered.”

“Attorney General William Barr ultimately intervened to override the prosecutors’ recommendation of seven to nine years and ask for a lighter sentence. All four prosecutors quit the case as a result.”

this guy wont be an IG too much longer

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:36:03pm

re: #114 dangerman

i posted this bit about ohio earlier today
guess it is true

considered lost causes? (they’re not too bright, remember)
oh wait, no. In the bag! we dont need to advertise at all.
who knows?
out of money?
who cares!

Pulling out of markets where the polls show tight races to go after a state is likely lost to them (PA) and a state where the Repub Senator is losing badly (AZ). Shine on, you crazy diamonds!

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:38:29pm

donald’s latest check must have cleared

Ivana Trump suggested that immigrants “don’t get jobs” and “steal and rape women” during an interview, The Independent reports.

Said Ms. Trump: “I am immigrant, but they have to come to the country legally, they have to get a job, they have to pay taxes like the rest of Americans.”

She added: “And they don’t get a job and they steal and they rape the women. That’s not our idea.”

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:39:15pm

re: #114 dangerman

i posted this bit about ohio earlier today
guess it is true

considered lost causes? (they’re not too bright, remember)
oh wait, no. In the bag! we dont need to advertise at all.
who knows?
out of money?
who cares!

Biden’s been pretty consistently leading in Arizona since March. Biden seems to be gaining in Iowa, but it’s probably still leaning Trump. I don’t think Nevada was ever really in play. Ohio is probably a toss up at this point. And there’s only been one poll out of Pennsylvania since the end of May that showed Trump with a lead.

This might come as a shock, but it once again looks like they really don’t know what the fuck they’re doing but obviously know that they are losing.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:39:41pm

re: #120 dangerman

donald’s latest check must have cleared

And when they do, and Donald kicks them out anyway?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:44:56pm

re: #121 KGxvi

Biden’s been pretty consistently leading in Arizona since March. Biden seems to be gaining in Iowa, but it’s probably still leaning Trump. I don’t think Nevada was ever really in play. Ohio is probably a toss up at this point. And there’s only been one poll out of Pennsylvania since the end of May that showed Trump with a lead.

This might come as a shock, but it once again looks like they really don’t know what the fuck they’re doing but obviously know that they are losing.

They knew which states to work and ratfuck last time. Trump is getting data help from someone besides that dumbass Parscale.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:45:20pm

re: #120 dangerman

donald’s latest check must have cleared

Meanwhile, millions of them meet the second two criteria, so why not just grant them citizenship and be done with it? Oh, right, because then you couldn’t use them to scare the white folks into voting for Donny.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:46:30pm

re: #67 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

It might look something like this

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:46:50pm
A month-long investigation by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has found that study participants who tested positive for COVID-19 were roughly twice as likely to have dined at a restaurant within two weeks of the onset of illness than those who tested negative for the virus.

— that includes outdoor seating

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:47:16pm

re: #126 dangerman

— that includes outdoor seating

And that’s why I don’t.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:47:47pm

What would a day in this country looked like if all the conspiracy theorists suddenly disappeared?

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:48:19pm

re: #122 Belafon

And when they do, and Donald kicks them out anyway?

like the salvadorans just today

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:48:26pm

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

What would a day in this country looked like if all the conspiracy theorists suddenly disappeared?

Quiet.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:48:47pm

re: #114 dangerman

i posted this bit about ohio earlier today
guess it is true

considered lost causes? (they’re not too bright, remember)
oh wait, no. In the bag! we dont need to advertise at all.
who knows?
out of money?
who cares!

Nate Silver would say it makes sense because Pa and Az are much more likely to be tipping point states than Ohio. IOW, if Trump loses Ohio, he’s already lost the election anyway.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:49:00pm

He’s working his way through the hits again:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:49:16pm
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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:49:17pm

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

What would a day in this country looked like if all the conspiracy theorists suddenly disappeared?

biggest conspiracy ever!

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:49:41pm

re: #126 dangerman

My mom eats at restaurants all the time. Indoors. She’s 85.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:50:09pm

Trump’s depravity knows no bounds.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:50:10pm

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

What would a day in this country looked like if all the conspiracy theorists suddenly disappeared?

Switzerland.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:50:27pm

re: #132 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s working his way through the hits again:

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My dad was rehashing how he isn’t watching the NFL live anymore because of “all of that crap” (his actual words). I just nodded and grunted until the topic changed. I really hate this shit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:50:37pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:51:31pm

re: #139 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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How do you test positive for a liberal hoax? Does your blood turn blue?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:52:50pm

re: #121 KGxvi

Biden’s been pretty consistently leading in Arizona since March. Biden seems to be gaining in Iowa, but it’s probably still leaning Trump. I don’t think Nevada was ever really in play. Ohio is probably a toss up at this point. And there’s only been one poll out of Pennsylvania since the end of May that showed Trump with a lead.

This might come as a shock, but it once again looks like they really don’t know what the fuck they’re doing but obviously know that they are losing.

According to fivethirtyeight.com, Pennsylvania has about a 30% likelihood of being the tipping point state, so that is exactly where the campaigns should be advertising. Florida is at about 15% for second, so Bloomberg’s $100 million commitment there is a big fucking deal, as Biden would say.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:52:57pm

re: #132 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s working his way through the hits again:

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Oh shut the fuck up Donnie. You don’t get to tell them what’s acceptable and what’s not you fascist fuckwaffle.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:53:15pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:54:12pm

re: #141 NO SMOCKING GUN!

According to fivethirtyeight.com, Pennsylvania has about a 30% likelihood of being the tipping point state, so that is exactly where the campaigns should be advertising. Florida is at about 15% for second, so Bloomberg’s $100 million commitment there is a big fucking deal, as Biden would say.

I feel good honesty. If Biden wins PA, WI, & MI he’s home and all else is gravy. Biden is running a steady campaign.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:55:08pm

re: #117 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What’s worse is that I live on the side of a hill, and the tree that got hit was at the bottom of the hill - most definitely was NOT the tallest thing in the area. It left me terrified of what else might get hit on the hillside during a future thunderstorm.

Yikes!
Got any lightning rods installed?

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:59:24pm

re: #144 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I feel good honesty. If Biden wins PA, WI, & MI he’s home and all else is gravy. Biden is running a steady campaign.

I want to feel good but am extremely anxious about Trump and his minions inciting violence before, during and after the election. They really don’t care who gets hurt or dies to maintain their plunder and power.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 2:59:35pm

re: #145 Jebediah, RBG

Yikes!
Got any lightning rods installed?

Nope, but the house isn’t the tallest thing in its nearby neighborhood, either. It’s more likely to hit the tree in the front yard, which is also much closer. Also, looking out the back window at the trees down the hill, they actually just might be taller than the house.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:00:02pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:00:18pm

re: #139 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

June 5, 2020
Gov. Henry McMaster to SC business community: ‘We need to reopen’

“…While more businesses re-open data from the Department of Health and Environmental Control show increases in positive cases in recent days with Greenville leading the state on new cases for the past five consecutive days.
State health officials attribute the increases to a general spike in testing, though some Greenville County leaders also believe the rise is attributed to poor social distancing efforts.

McMaster said the testing alone is what has drawn up the numbers.”
greenvilleonline.com

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:00:36pm

re: #146 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I want to feel good but am extremely anxious about Trump and his minions inciting violence before, during and after the election. They really don’t care who gets hurt or dies to maintain their plunder and power.

I’m definitely worried about that. I’m less worried about the electorate though. I really think people are fed up with Trump’s bullshit.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:01:22pm

re: #144 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I feel good honesty. If Biden wins PA, WI, & MI he’s home and all else is gravy. Biden is running a steady campaign.

Trump would be in deep trouble, trying to win in places like Az, Nv, Mn, NC, and NH. I don’t think he has a path to actual victory. I think his play is to hope he leads in enough states on November 3 to declare “victory”, then try to stop the count of mailed in ballots due to “fraud” and get state GOP officials to appoint Trump electors or at least block Biden electors so that the election is thrown to the House, where he has an edge.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:01:49pm

re: #149 jaunte

June 5, 2020
Gov. Henry McMaster to SC business community: ‘We need to reopen’

So many of these Republican assholes need to go on trial for negligent homicide after this. And I’d love to see Individual One in a beautiful, orange jump suit.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:02:28pm

re: #131 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Nate Silver would say it makes sense because Pa and Az are much more likely to be tipping point states than Ohio. IOW, if Trump loses Ohio, he’s already lost the election anyway.

strictly by polls and the EC and ignoring election shenanigans, as im reading it, on electoral-vote.com tipping point state page:

IA and AK are within 2 points so MOE either way - virtual ties.
TX and NC are within 1, so ditto moreso.
If trump doesnt hold all 4 he’s toast.

If he does, THEN he’s got to get through GA and FL before AZ (or NV) would even start to matter.

THEN to even approach 270 he needs GA, FL, AZ, NH, NV and OH

In PA Biden is +5%.
WI, MI, MN are 6 points or more right now.
Everyone’s committed. It’s fantasy to think he could swing 5+% from Biden in the amount of time left. (imo)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:02:34pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:02:54pm

re: #149 jaunte

June 5, 2020
Gov. Henry McMaster to SC business community: ‘We need to reopen’

“Social distancing” in the South is a fucking joke, same as mask compliance where such ordinances were ever actually invoked. Young folks think they’re invulnerable, old folks figure they got nothing to lose, and everybody in-between either thinks it’s a “hoax” or is convinced that it’s “no worse than the flu.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:02:55pm

re: #151 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump would be in deep trouble, trying to win in places like Az, Nv, Mn, NC, and NH. I don’t think he has a path to actual victory. I think his play is to hope he leads in enough states on November 3 to declare “victory”, then try to stop the count of mailed in ballots due to “fraud” and get state GOP officials to appoint Trump electors or at least block Biden electors so that the election is thrown to the House, where he has an edge.

Yeah I just don’t see that working out for him. It wouldn’t be the first time we didn’t know the outcome of an election immediately and everytime he’s tried to cry fraud, it’s backfired on him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:03:43pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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If one would just dissolve into a small enough rock and just hit Trump owned properties, that would be great mmmkay.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:04:08pm

re: #154 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, 2020!

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:04:09pm

re: #135 plansbandc

My mom eats at restaurants all the time. Indoors. She’s 85.

there are certainly pockets of places that have less virus and thus have less to spread around.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:04:09pm

Good news out of Wisconsin

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:04:42pm

re: #155 Targetpractice

“Social distancing” in the South is a fucking joke, same as mask compliance where such ordinances were ever actually invoked. Young folks think they’re invulnerable, old folks figure they got nothing to lose, and everybody in-between either thinks it’s a “hoax” or is convinced that it’s “no worse than the flu.”

Better here up north but man am I glad that my brother transferred from VT. Still had to quarantine and get tested at JMU though. He’s fine thankfully.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:05:54pm

re: #160 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Good news out of Wisconsin

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That’s pretty good, as I was just reading a report earlier today that they were leaning on forcing the state to put Hawkins on the ballot, which would invalidate all ballots already mailed and put the crunch on the state to get new ballots printed and mailed before the legal deadline.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:05:55pm

re: #147 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Nope, but the house isn’t the tallest thing in its nearby neighborhood, either. It’s more likely to hit the tree in the front yard, which is also much closer. Also, looking out the back window at the trees down the hill, they actually just might be taller than the house.

Well-grounded masts offer something called “the cone of protection”. Imagine a pole or tree, extend a line on the ground twice its height, and make that the radius of a circle. Anything that stays inside the cone described from the top to that circumference is (probably) protected. Except when it’s an ammunition magazine and the magic doesn’t work. It’s one of those models that work best with perfectly spherical cows.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:06:10pm

re: #160 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Good news out of Wisconsin

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That’s great news. I’d like to point some stuff out about last election that should give y’all some reason for optimism but Trump actually underperformed Romney in many states and counties. If we get the turnout and I’m optimistic about that, I think Trump’s going to be calling Putin begging him to take him in as an exile.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:07:06pm

re: #163 Decatur Deb

Well-grounded masts offer something called “the cone of protection. Imagine a pole or tree, extend a line on the ground twice its height, and make that the radius of a circle. Anything that stays inside the cone described from the top to that circumference is (probably) protected. Except when it’s an ammunition magazine and the magic doesn’t work. It’s one of those models that work best with perfectly spherical cows.

Sorry, I only deal with spherical cows in a perfect vacuum.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:07:29pm

re: #149 jaunte

June 5, 2020
Gov. Henry McMaster to SC business community: ‘We need to reopen’

“McMaster said the testing alone is what has drawn up the numbers.”“

numbnutz, the numbers were already there
testing revealed them

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:07:46pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:08:22pm

re: #166 dangerman

“McMaster said the testing alone is what has drawn up the numbers.”“

numbnutz, the numbers were already there
testing revealed them

Now I know why BeachDem calls him Foghorn Leghorn. That boy ain’t right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:08:41pm

re: #98 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

One of these critters is going home with me! Saw these on Nextdoor and went to see them. Hope she likes the plane ride (in a carrier of course, with a blanket). Haven’t decided on a name but I was thinking about “Pekoe” after the orange tea grade.

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I haz a sad for the one left behind.

the last one…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:09:50pm

re: #167 DodgerFan1988

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Crimes against humanity. It’s probably my most radical position but I absolutely support Trump facing a tribunal or a trial where he’d face capital charges for his crimes. I oppose the Death Penalty but the one area where I get a little fuzzy are tyrants like Trump.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:09:55pm

re: #153 dangerman

strictly by polls and the EC and ignoring election shenanigans, as im reading it, on electoral-vote.com tipping point state page:

IA and AK are within 2 points so MOE either way - virtual ties.
TX and NC are within 1, so ditto moreso.
If trump doesnt hold all 4 he’s toast.

If he does, THEN he’s got to get through GA and FL before AZ (or NV) would even start to matter.

THEN to even approach 270 he needs GA, FL, AZ, NH, NV and OH

In PA Biden is +5%.
WI, MI, MN are 6 points or more right now.
Everyone’s committed. It’s fantasy to think he could swing 5+% from Biden in the amount of time left. (imo)

538 has an article explaining why its error to merely look at how close states are rather than whether or not they are tipping points. If Trump spends his resources on states that should be his base, and doesn’t dedicate enough to the states that would get him the 270th electoral vote, all he is doing is trying to prevent a Biden landslide. According to Silver’s stats, the campaigns should be dedicating over half their resources to Pennsylvania, Florida and Wisconsin.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:11:03pm

re: #166 dangerman

“McMaster said the testing alone is what has drawn up the numbers.”“

numbnutz, the numbers were already there
testing revealed them

It’s MAGAt gospel that any rise in new infections is due to increased testing, that if you test more people of course you’re going to find more positives. They also insist that a significant portion of those are “false positives” to declare that the rates of infection are actually lower than reported.

You know, when they’re not denying that the pandemic as anything but a “hoax.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:11:43pm

I’ve also been seeing where Trump is having his rallies. These aren’t big metropolitian areas guys nor are they in swing counties. They’re in places he already won big. My bet is he knows if he tried to have a rally in a swing county, not many people would show up or he’d get some hecklers and we know how Trump loves dissenting speech.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:11:46pm

re: #108 sagehen

The one on the left looks friendlier, and more curious.

(but I’m a dog person, so what do I know…)

the one on the right is a cuddle bunny

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:13:22pm

re: #160 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Good news out of Wisconsin

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The Green scheme to reelect Trump fails! That is very good news; I guess at least one GOP Justice has a conscience.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:14:12pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

“And I would have gotten away with ignoring a pandemic too, if it weren’t for you meddling doctors!”

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:14:15pm

re: #173 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’ve also been seeing where Trump is having his rallies. These aren’t big metropolitian areas guys nor are they in swing counties. They’re in places he already won big. My bet is he knows if he tried to have a rally in a swing county, not many people would show up or he’d get some hecklers and we know how Trump loves dissenting speech.

I imagine he’s avoiding places where he’d encounter hecklers in part because he or one of his handlers know he can’t get away with the shit he did in ‘16 of encouraging violence or suggesting that the cops beat the shit out of protestors as his rallies.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:15:55pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

I imagine he’s avoiding places where he’d encounter hecklers in part because he or one of his handlers know he can’t get away with the shit he did in ‘16 of encouraging violence or suggesting that the cops beat the shit out of protestors as his rallies.

Yeah I was just watching the Netflix documentary about Gawker and Hogan and by extension Trump, Adelson, and Thiel. He relished in using his rallies to stir shit up. I’m glad that my county isn’t going to him and he’s unlikely to rally here. Unfortunately his favorite weekend golf spot is right in between where I live now and where I grew up and am moving back to soon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:16:51pm

re: #130 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Quiet.

much less outraged and more relaxed

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:17:51pm

re: #156 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah I just don’t see that working out for him. It wouldn’t be the first time we didn’t know the outcome of an election immediately and everytime he’s tried to cry fraud, it’s backfired on him.

i know i keep beating this horse:

- we have never known the outcome of elections immediately
- the AP the networks (ie news organizations) make predictions as to how the count will eventually turn out and the official from each state will certify sometime later.
- we have accepted this action by the media as somehow official
- mostly because i dont think they’ve ever been wrong (as far as i can remember)
certainly about the election as a whole, and probably also as to each individual state
- and because it’s never mattered before

nothing that happens on election night is binding.
anybody ‘calling’ or ‘declaring’ anything on election night is just meaningless theater.
always has been actually.

we should think this way from now on.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:18:32pm

re: #149 jaunte

June 5, 2020
Gov. Henry McMaster to SC business community: ‘We need to reopen’

And in a sane world, James Smith would be governor and Mandy Powers-Norrell would be Lt. Gov. Sigh.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:19:16pm

Trump liking “November Rain” is just making my brain percolate.

Like, it makes perfect sense: it’s superficial and filled with tropes, telegraphs all its emotional content, has that 90s glue-gun rococo aesthetic, and there’s a hot chick. Intersperse this with clips of JCVD fights and a bunch of crown molding sprayed gold and it’s the most Trump-aesthetic thing ever.

I mean, it’s not even the best Gun ‘n Roses videos that just flops everything out of the table, with Axl Rose wanting to visualize a nervous breakdown and the rest of the band wanting to look badass, both in the biggest, corniest way possible:

Guns N’ Roses - Estranged

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:19:25pm

re: #175 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The Green scheme to reelect Trump fails! That is very good news; I guess at least one GOP Justice has a conscience.

Yep, it was just one of the conservatives switching sides in a 4-3 decision.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:20:08pm

re: #180 dangerman

i know i keep beating this horse:

- we have never known the outcome of elections immediately
- the AP the networks (ie news organizations) make predictions as to how the count will eventually turn out and the official from each state will certify sometime later.
- we have accepted this action by the media as somehow official
- mostly because i dont think they’ve ever been wrong (as far as i can remember)
certainly about the election as a whole, and probably also as to each individual state
- and because it’s never mattered before

nothing that happens on election night is binding.
anybody ‘calling’ or ‘declaring’ anything on election night is just meaningless theater.
always has been actually.

we should think this way from now on.

I think the first time that the media called a state “wrong” (or, in this case, too early) was in 2000 with FL. They overcompensated in ‘08 by insisting on waiting long after most experts had called places like OH because they didn’t want another last-minute change in the totals to foul their calls.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:20:40pm

The fact we haven’t been calling this man Giltfinger the entire time is a sign our society has failed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:20:59pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

It’s MAGAt gospel that any rise in new infections is due to increased testing, that if you test more people of course you’re going to find more positives. They also insist that a significant portion of those are “false positives” to declare that the rates of infection are actually lower than reported.

You know, when they’re not denying that the pandemic as anything but a “hoax.”

Here’s the thing: It’s really easy to see if increased testing is responsible for increased positives. The question to ask yourself is, “Is the percentage of new infections rising, falling, or staying the same, as the testing increases?” If it is rising, that means your testing is playing catch-up to an undiscovered hot-spot, possibly due to targeted testing; if it’s falling, it means that your previous testing was inadequate, and the percentage of new positives was erroneously low. If it stays the same, then your previous testing was adequate and your new testing is the reason for the increased positives.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:21:44pm

re: #183 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Yep, it was just one of the conservatives switching sides in a 4-3 decision.

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Basically it seems the one conservative changed sides when realizing that this was not a simple matter of just printing new ballots, which would make the court ground zero for a potential electoral catastrophe in less than 60 days.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:23:14pm

re: #180 dangerman

i know i keep beating this horse:

- we have never known the outcome of elections immediately
- the AP the networks (ie news organizations) make predictions as to how the count will eventually turn out and the official from each state will certify sometime later.
- we have accepted this action by the media as somehow official
- mostly because i dont think they’ve ever been wrong (as far as i can remember)
certainly about the election as a whole, and probably also as to each individual state
- and because it’s never mattered before

nothing that happens on election night is binding.
anybody ‘calling’ or ‘declaring’ anything on election night is just meaningless theater.
always has been actually.

we should think this way from now on.

Exactly. Would I like to know Biden won on election night? Sure but am I okay with waiting so we get the votes counted? YES!.

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Jack Burton  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:24:37pm

re: #188 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Exactly. Would I like to know Biden won on election night? Sure but am I okay with waiting so we get the votes counted? YES!.

People should start harping on the media now to *not* play horse race announcer and to not try to call anything on election night.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:24:50pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

I think the first time that the media called a state “wrong” (or, in this case, too early) was in 2000 with FL. They overcompensated in ‘08 by insisting on waiting long after most experts had called places like OH because they didn’t want another last-minute change in the totals to foul their calls.

They “called” Florida before polls closed in the panhandle, which is in the Central time zone unlike the rest of the state.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:25:05pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

Basically it seems the one conservative changed sides when realizing that this was not a simple matter of just printing new ballots, which would make the court ground zero for a potential electoral catastrophe in less than 60 days.

I wonder if that judge is a product of pre-Walker. I obviously have no love for the GOP pre-Tea Party but the Tea Party is when the GOP really went the total shits everywhere. It’s where as you know that people like Cuccinnelli and Stewart became part of the GOP mainstream.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:26:56pm

re: #173 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’ve also been seeing where Trump is having his rallies. These aren’t big metropolitian areas guys nor are they in swing counties. They’re in places he already won big. My bet is he knows if he tried to have a rally in a swing county, not many people would show up or he’d get some hecklers and we know how Trump loves dissenting speech.

You’re right, and he’s not getting standing-room-only crowds in deep red Trump country.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:28:25pm

I suspect that the media is gonna be a bit gun-shy early in the evening of Nov 3rd, as some states will have absentee ballots already counted by Election Day, while others won’t begin until after the polls close. We can probably expect a lot of footage of long lines at the polls, between MAGAts who bought into the whole “MAIL-IN FRAUD!!!” bit and voters worried that DeJoy’s efforts would mean their votes were invalidated alike wait for hours past 7pm to vote.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:28:50pm

re: #165 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sorry, I only deal with spherical cows in a perfect vacuum.

On a frictionless plane.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:29:16pm

re: #192 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

You’re right, and he’s not getting standing-room-only crowds in deep red Trump country.

I mean he’s got people who will stay with him until the end but my guess is that number shrinks every day that he opens his fat mouth about whatever is bothering him. I don’t know how accurate it was but I saw a poll the other day that had Biden beating him in one of the Arkansas congressional districts. That’s unreal.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:29:23pm

re: #194 Barefoot Grin

On a frictionless plane.

And of uniform density.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:29:50pm

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

What would a day in this country looked like if all the conspiracy theorists suddenly disappeared?

Lord Soros is trying to arrange it as we speak. Your instructions will arrive shortly, via the usual channels.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:31:00pm

I also haven’t seen the hatred for Biden that I did HRC. Yeah a bunch of stupid hot takes on Biden being senile, the stupid gifs that make Biden out to be a creeper, but it’s been harder for Trump to get them to hate Biden the way they did Clinton or how he would Sanders. I’m grateful daily that Sanders isn’t the nominee. Trump’s lame law and order crap may actually have had some traction if Bernie were the nominee.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:32:01pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

I haz a sad for the one left behind.

the last one…

She has already found a home, too. I really wanted to take both of them, but I don’t want to turn into a crazy cat dude.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:32:06pm

re: #166 dangerman

“McMaster said the testing alone is what has drawn up the numbers.”“

numbnutz, the numbers were already there
testing revealed them

And South Carolina is 37th in tests per M, so his line of bullshit doesn’t even hold up to simple math.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:33:08pm

re: #195 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I mean he’s got people who will stay with him until the end but my guess is that number shrinks every day that he opens his fat mouth about whatever is bothering him. I don’t know how accurate it was but I saw a poll the other day that had Biden beating him in one of the Arkansas congressional districts. That’s unreal.

In a two person race, 40% has historically been the base line for a major party nominee. Trump’s had a few national polls showing him at 39% and the best he’s been able to do is 45-46% but even in those Biden is at 49+. I get everyone being gun shy after 2016, but he’s in a terrible way, not just for an incumbent but for any major party nominee in the modern era.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:36:00pm

We’re doomed. Idiocracy is here.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:36:05pm

re: #201 KGxvi

In a two person race, 40% has historically been the base line for a major party nominee. Trump’s had a few national polls showing him at 39% and the best he’s been able to do is 45-46% but even in those Biden is at 49+. I get everyone being gun shy after 2016, but he’s in a terrible way, not just for an incumbent but for any major party nominee in the modern era.

Exactly. He’s in a terrible way right now. He already had a low ceiling of support as demonstrated last time and it’s going to be more difficult because the third party candidates won’t be able to help him. In a two person race, I easily see Biden getting over 50% of the PV and I think Biden will be closer to 55% than Trump will 50%.

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Jack Burton  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:36:54pm

re: #201 KGxvi

In a two person race, 40% has historically been the base line for a major party nominee. Trump’s had a few national polls showing him at 39% and the best he’s been able to do is 45-46% but even in those Biden is at 49+. I get everyone being gun shy after 2016, but he’s in a terrible way, not just for an incumbent but for any major party nominee in the modern era.

It’s not about being gunshy, it’s about not giving him room to claim victory based on the few vote in person “results” and throw everything into chaos.

I really do not want a civil war or the fourth reich because CNN insists politics is the Super Bowl.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:37:10pm

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

And the letterspacing sucks, too.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:37:13pm

re: #201 KGxvi

In a two person race, 40% has historically been the base line for a major party nominee. Trump’s had a few national polls showing him at 39% and the best he’s been able to do is 45-46% but even in those Biden is at 49+. I get everyone being gun shy after 2016, but he’s in a terrible way, not just for an incumbent but for any major party nominee in the modern era.

Which I think is a big part of the reason why people are engaged in all sorts of speculation about what lengths he’ll go to in order to not only steal the election, but retain power if his efforts to win “legitimately” should fail.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:39:07pm
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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:39:12pm

re: #171 NO SMOCKING GUN!

538 has an article explaining why its error to merely look at how close states are rather than whether or not they are tipping points. If Trump spends his resources on states that should be his base, and doesn’t dedicate enough to the states that would get him the 270th electoral vote, all he is doing is trying to prevent a Biden landslide. According to Silver’s stats, the campaigns should be dedicating over half their resources to Pennsylvania, Florida and Wisconsin.

certainly true
and of course i;m not an expert
and 538’s model is different from electoral-vote.com for sure
i think it’s both - the closeness of the polls and the nearness to the tipping point

i’ll reiterate
there’s 50 days to the election
the polls - state and nationwide, and the candidate favorability/unfavorability ratings have been pretty rock solid all along.
that includes the 4-6% divided between undecided and third party.
hell trump’s been rock solid for 4 years.

using wisconsin as an example, trump needs 5.8 points to turn the state pollwise.
- there’s only 1% undecided. give him 100% of that though it’s not likely.
- then he needs to turn 4.8% of actual biden voters into trump voters
- that’s something like 134k voters changing their mind from biden to trump in these next 50 days.

it’s an awfully tall order because there’s no untapped market to target.
(i havent considered first time voters because current polling should cover them)

so i’m not sure i’m worried about him turning that many biden voters
and that’s just one state.

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stpaulbear  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:40:14pm

re: #199 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

She has already found a home, too. I really wanted to take both of them, but I don’t want to turn into a crazy cat dude.

They look like fuzzy dreamcicles.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:40:21pm

From the my dog is a weirdo file.

Yesterday, I was munching on some blueberries and gave one to Teddy. He did a yummy dance. So, I shared more berries and spent the rest of the day feeling guilty because I don’t typically share my blueberries with Teddy (although I do get him some crunchy blueberry treats from Fruitables from time to time).

Fast forward to today. Enjoying my mid-afternoon blueberry snack. Gave one to Teddy. He looked at me like I was poisoning him. Remembered why I don’t share my berries.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:40:47pm

re: #172 Targetpractice

It’s MAGAt gospel that any rise in new infections is due to increased testing, that if you test more people of course you’re going to find more positives. They also insist that a significant portion of those are “false positives” to declare that the rates of infection are actually lower than reported.

You know, when they’re not denying that the pandemic as anything but a “hoax.”

dont a lot (most?) positives get retested relatively quickly that the numbers would be adjusted for the false positives?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:41:02pm

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

We’re doomed. Idiocracy is here.

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In Elementary School, the Principal said, “Remember, the principal is your pal!”, which is a pretty good mnemonic since I remember it 55 years later.

Also, “The Principle is your ple!” just doesn’t work.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:43:06pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

I think the first time that the media called a state “wrong” (or, in this case, too early) was in 2000 with FL. They overcompensated in ‘08 by insisting on waiting long after most experts had called places like OH because they didn’t want another last-minute change in the totals to foul their calls.

right
thx
and i voted in palm beach that year
butterfly ballot and all

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:43:50pm

The biggest thing imo we will need to worry about is how to recover from Trump and how to prevent another Trump from taking over our government to be his reality show/business.

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Jack Burton  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:44:45pm

I know that if election day was tomorrow, that Biden would legitimately win an EC landslide. That doesn’t mean that FFVCS won’t try every trick in the book to steal it though.

So we need to not give him any opportunities to do so, and spazzy white guys on CNN and MSNBC who treat the election like it’s the NFL playoffs calling states at 8pm EST Nov 3 when most ballots aren’t counted yet is one way to give Trump exactly one of those opportunities.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:46:10pm

re: #214 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The biggest thing imo we will need to worry about is how to recover from Trump and how to prevent another Trump from taking over our government to be his reality show/business.

I am far more worried about the latter than the former. If another Republican asshole - one with brains - comes in while we are in the process of recovering, we’re doomed. But if we can ensure that their power to do damage is limited and we can recover safely, then making plans to actually do the recovery are much easier. Republicans aren’t likely to work with Biden on much of anything, so we’ve got to make it count.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:47:53pm

re: #216 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I am far more worried about the latter than the former. If another Republican asshole - one with brains - comes in while we are in the process of recovering, we’re doomed. But if we can ensure that their power to do damage is limited and we can recover safely, then making plans to actually do the recovery are much easier. Republicans aren’t likely to work with Biden on much of anything, so we’ve got to make it count.

Yeah we’ve been a bit lucky that Trump isn’t that smart. I’m definitely worried about it happening again because voter amnesia is real. Maybe we should replace the CSA memorials with Covid ones.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:48:52pm

re: #210 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

From the my dog is a weirdo file.

Yesterday, I was munching on some blueberries and gave one to Teddy. He did a yummy dance. So, I shared more berries and spent the rest of the day feeling guilty because I don’t typically share my blueberries with Teddy (although I do get him some crunchy blueberry treats from Fruitables from time to time).

Fast forward to today. Enjoying my mid-afternoon blueberry snack. Gave one to Teddy. He looked at me like I was poisoning him. Remembered why I don’t share my berries.

Just remember to give him broccoli…

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stpaulbear  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:49:39pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

I think the first time that the media called a state “wrong” (or, in this case, too early) was in 2000 with FL. They overcompensated in ‘08 by insisting on waiting long after most experts had called places like OH because they didn’t want another last-minute change in the totals to foul their calls.

Not to mention that it was a Bush cousin who was working as a reporter for Fox News who was the first to report that W had won Florida, getting that particular ball of shit rolling.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:50:26pm

re: #219 stpaulbear

Not to mention that it was a Bush cousin who was working as a reporter for Fox News who was the first to report that W had won Florida, getting that particular ball of shit rolling.

I don’t hate W Bush like I used to but so much of 2000 stank.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:50:49pm

re: #206 Targetpractice

Which I think is a big part of the reason why people are engaged in all sorts of speculation about what lengths he’ll go to in order to not only steal the election, but retain power if his efforts to win “legitimately” should fail.

People are glued to their tvs or computers on the night of the election trying to decipher what the incomplete results mean. Each media company wants to be first in predicting which candidate won any particular state. And even partial results can have an impact: people out west may decide not to vote if the numbers in certain eastern states suggest a particular outcome appears guaranteed. I don’t know the best way to prevent a possible disaster because mail-in votes are not counted until several days later.

Let’s just hope that the night of the election shows an overwhelming Biden victory to discourage any claims that may arise if Trump is ahead on election night but ultimately loses when all votes are tallied.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:51:22pm

re: #217 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah we’ve been a bit lucky that Trump isn’t that smart. I’m definitely worried about it happening again because voter amnesia is real. Maybe we should replace the CSA memorials with Covid ones.

I also think his narcissism has stymied some of his cronies’ misdeeds. They have to please him to stay in power, but Trump’s a fickle bitch. Think of the times people in his administration have made announcements only to have Trump contradict them on twitter five minutes later.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:52:08pm
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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:52:28pm

re: #218 Blind Frog Belly White

Just remember to give him broccoli…

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That doggo loves them some broccoli.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:53:41pm

re: #222 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I also think his narcissism has stymied some of his cronies’ misdeeds. They have to please him to stay in power, but Trump’s a fickle bitch. Think of the times people in his administration have made announcements only to have Trump contradict them on twitter five minutes later.

Trump is the screen door on his own submarine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:55:44pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

the one on the right is a cuddle bunny

OMG…is that the one left behind????

I NEED THAT BABEE!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 3:57:28pm

re: #224 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

That doggo loves them some broccoli.

Yes, he does!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:01:28pm

re: #167 DodgerFan1988

How the hell is this being allowed to happen? The UN needs to step in. We are a barbaric nation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:01:50pm

It’s amazing what a month of smoke will do to your perceptions. 3 weeks ago, I was closing up the house whenever the AQI went above about 50.

Yesterday, it dropped from >160 to <120, so I went for a ride. While spinning through ruralish San Mateo County, I happened upon a feral couch….

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Jack Burton  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:03:02pm

re: #228 Patricia Kayden

How the hell is this being allowed to happen. The UN needs to step in. We are a barbaric nation.

What form would that take?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:03:54pm

re: #229 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s amazing what a month of smoke will do to your perceptions. 3 weeks ago, I was closing up the house whenever the AQI went above about 50.

Yesterday, it dropped from >160 to <120, so I went for a ride. While spinning through ruralish San Mateo County, I happened upon a feral couch….

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You’re one flying cat away from Dadaism.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:04:12pm

During an interview on Fox, Ted Cruz said this about Trump including him on his list of SC justices.

“I don’t,” Cruz responded. “It is deeply honoring, it’s humbling to be included in the list … but it’s not the desire of my heart. I want to be in the political fight.”

Note, he did not say he wanted to serve the public or represent the great state of Texas in the Senate. No, he wants to be in the FIGHT. This is the Republican view of governing, and it’s been a problem long before Trump rode down that escalator.*

*I’ve always thought that escalator image was terrible and silly staging, but since I’ve seen how many problems Trump has with stairs and ramps, he probably thought that escalator ride was a daring and manly feat.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:04:28pm

re: #230 Jack Burton

Demand investigations and sanction the U.S. for human rights violations. If this was happening elsewhere, that’s what would be happening.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:05:03pm

re: #233 Patricia Kayden

Demand investigations and sanction the U.S. for human rights violations. If this was happening elsewhere, that’s what would be happening.

American Exceptionalism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:05:43pm

re: #232 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

During an interview on Fox, Ted Cruz said this about Trump including him on his list of SC justices.

Note, he did not say he wanted to serve the public or represent the great state of Texas in the Senate. No, he wants to be in the FIGHT. This is the Republican view of governing, and it’s been a problem long before Trump rode down that escalator.*

*I’ve always thought that escalator image was terrible and silly staging, but since I’ve seen how many problems Trump has with stairs and ramps, he probably thought that escalator ride was a daring and manly feat.

Imagine if he’d had to walk down a ramp.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:06:26pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:09:25pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

You’re one flying cat away from Dadaism.

There was a Jiffy John on a trailer next to the couch. Would that work?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:09:47pm

re: #236 Patricia Kayden

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But Joe Rogan supported Bernie. Seriously the idea of Rogan moderating any debate is a fucking joke.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:10:01pm

re: #231 Decatur Deb

You’re one flying cat away from Dadaism.

My first thought was of a Chesterfield, materializing spontaneously in the middle of Lord’s Cricket Ground.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:10:22pm

re: #236 Patricia Kayden

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If I were a betting person, I’d place my bet on Trump backing out of the debates at the last minute. He’ll make some ridiculous demand that makes Joe tell him to pound sand. There will an endless twitter tantrum of how “Sleepy Joe” was intimidated by Trump’s debate prowess (or more accurately prowling) and chickened out.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:11:25pm

re: #239 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My first thought was of a Chesterfield, materializing spontaneously in the middle of Lord’s Cricket Ground.

Or halfway up a staircase?

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:14:45pm

MAGA!!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:15:02pm

re: #240 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

That’s what I’m thinking as well. Ditto Pence bowing out of his debate

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jeffreyw  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:15:49pm

re: #165 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sorry, I only deal with spherical cows in a perfect vacuum.

They all would explode.. you monster!

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:16:03pm

re: #236 Patricia Kayden

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This was pretty much foreseeable. Trump doesn’t want to debate, especially not now that Biden has proven to be anything but the “easy” opponent he expected. So he’s going to keep pushing to see how far he can force the media to go to appease him if only to make sure he shows up.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:16:49pm

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:16:56pm

re: #243 Patricia Kayden

That’s what I’m thinking as well. Ditto Pence bowing out of his debate

Most days I forget Pence exists. Can’t see him being to anxious to share a debate stage with Kamala Harris.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:17:48pm

re: #237 Blind Frog Belly White

There was a Jiffy John on a trailer next to the couch. Would that work?

It’s been done.
en.wikipedia.org

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:17:52pm

re: #247 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Most days I forget Pence exists. Can’t see him being to anxious to share a debate stage with Kamala Harris.

Pence, unlike Trump, at least has enough political savvy to know what happens if he goes on a stage (physical or virtual) with Kamala and spends his time wiping the floor with his face.

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:17:58pm

Quelle surprise

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:18:05pm

re: #240 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

If I were a betting person, I’d place my bet on Trump backing out of the debates at the last minute. He’ll make some ridiculous demand that makes Joe tell him to pound sand. There will an endless twitter tantrum of how “Sleepy Joe” was intimidated by Trump’s debate prowess (or more accurately prowling) and chickened out.

I think it’s plausible we’ll see him show up for the first debate, if only because his ego will demand it. But short of Biden dissolving into a dribbling mess, the media is not likely to be able to sell it convincingly as a “win” for Trump no matter how low the bar is lowered. And that’s when he’ll declare his refusal to participate in any further debates, at which point it will be spun as Biden’s “fault.”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:18:08pm

re: #247 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Most days I forget Pence exists. Can’t see him being to anxious to share a debate stage with Kamala Harris.

He might come down with a case of bone spurs the night of the debate.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:18:17pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:18:18pm

re: #240 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

If I were a betting person, I’d place my bet on Trump backing out of the debates at the last minute. He’ll make some ridiculous demand that makes Joe tell him to pound sand. There will an endless twitter tantrum of how “Sleepy Joe” was intimidated by Trump’s debate prowess (or more accurately prowling) and chickened out.

It is still an amazing thing to me is that, during the 2016 primary season, Trump skipped one of the GOP debates, claiming - of course - it wasn’t FAIR!!, and held some kind of event that was supposed to bring in money for veterans.

Months later, David Farenthold starts inquiring with the Trump campaign about where the money went. It had gone nowhere. In a moment of obvious panic, they quickly donated it to the first veteran-related charity they could find.

What’s amazing to me is that these stories, which paint such a clear picture of Trump’s lack of caring about veterans, or indeed anyone but himself, never gain any footing with his followers.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:19:19pm

re: #253 jaunte

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Finding Waldo would be easier.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:19:53pm

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

We’re doomed. Idiocracy is here.

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Maybe it means “obey the principle of the principal sign?”

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:19:58pm

Let’s talk about the US as a failed state….

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:20:14pm

re: #246 Patricia Kayden

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Decatur Deb  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:20:30pm

re: #242 BeachDem

So to sum up: The West is burning; the Arctic is melting; the National Hurricane Center is tracking eight major systems; and the WHO reports the largest single-day increase of coronavirus cases globally.

MAGA!!!!

He missed today’s 3-asteroid flyby.
newsweek.com

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:20:45pm

re: #252 I Would Prefer Not To

He might come down with a case of bone spurs the night of the debate.

He caught them from Trump. Pence’s own Vietnam.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:20:46pm

re: #254 Blind Frog Belly White

It is still an amazing thing to me is that, during the 2016 primary season, Trump skipped one of the GOP debates, claiming - of course - it wasn’t FAIR!!, and held some kind of event that was supposed to bring in money for veterans.

Months later, David Farenthold starts inquiring with the Trump campaign about where the money went. It had gone nowhere. In a moment of obvious panic, they quickly donated it to the first veteran-related charity they could find.

What’s amazing to me is that these stories, which paint such a clear picture of Trump’s lack of caring about veterans, or indeed anyone but himself, never gain any footing with his followers.

It just astounds me how little his supporters know about him and what he’s done or how little they care if they do know but hey he triggered the libs with 200000 dead Americans and that;s good enough for some of them.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:21:58pm

re: #253 jaunte

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Mighty white of those people looking out for the Latino/a vote.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:22:49pm

re: #254 Blind Frog Belly White

It is still an amazing thing to me is that, during the 2016 primary season, Trump skipped one of the GOP debates, claiming - of course - it wasn’t FAIR!!, and held some kind of event that was supposed to bring in money for veterans.

Months later, David Farenthold starts inquiring with the Trump campaign about where the money went. It had gone nowhere. In a moment of obvious panic, they quickly donated it to the first veteran-related charity they could find.

What’s amazing to me is that these stories, which paint such a clear picture of Trump’s lack of caring about veterans, or indeed anyone but himself, never gain any footing with his followers.

I completely forgot about the origins of Trump stiffing the vets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:23:08pm

re: #199 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

She has already found a home, too. I really wanted to take both of them, but I don’t want to turn into a crazy cat dude.

YAY for the last one!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:24:19pm

re: #263 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I completely forgot about the origins of Trump stiffing the vets.

The last 4 years have been a long century.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:25:05pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:26:08pm

re: #265 Blind Frog Belly White

The last 4 years have been a long century.

It really has been a long four years. Obama’s presidency feels like another lifetime ago.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:26:08pm

It’s important to remember that 2020 isn’t 2008 or 2000 or 1980.

When the polls close in Florida, whether it’s 8 or 9 ET, there might still be a couple of hours when polls in the west remain open…

…except that Oregon is now entirely vote by mail, and Washington, California and Nevada will be heavily vote by mail this year too.

And the three coastal states have no suspense to them. You could call them for Biden now, just as you can call ID, UT, WY, MT for Trump and CO and NM for Biden.

So now we’re down to just two states - NV and AZ - and a vanishingly small number of theoretical hesitant undecided voters who won’t have made up their minds by 7 PM MT on the last day of voting season?

Not buying it as a big factor this time around.

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Mattand  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:27:21pm

re: #238 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

But Joe Rogan supported Bernie. Seriously the idea of Rogan moderating any debate is a fucking joke.

Wait, what?

I’m coning late here. Please tell me this a not A Thing™ rational humans are demanding.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:28:15pm

re: #269 Mattand

Wait, what?

I’m coning late here. Please tell me this a not A Thing™ rational humans are demanding.

Yeah he offered to moderate a four hour “debate” between Biden and Trump on his podcast

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:28:32pm

re: #266 Patricia Kayden

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That big dent in the passenger-side door might also help with the identification.

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retired cynic  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:29:41pm

re: #232 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

During an interview on Fox, Ted Cruz said this about Trump including him on his list of SC justices.

Note, he did not say he wanted to serve the public or represent the great state of Texas in the Senate. No, he wants to be in the FIGHT. This is the Republican view of governing, and it’s been a problem long before Trump rode down that escalator.*

*I’ve always thought that escalator image was terrible and silly staging, but since I’ve seen how many problems Trump has with stairs and ramps, he probably thought that escalator ride was a daring and manly feat.

Plus he could hold onto Melania.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:29:47pm

re: #270 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah he offered to moderate a four hour “debate” between Biden and Trump on his podcast

LOL, the only thing Trump has done for 4 hours since taking office is golf and try and take a poop.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:30:01pm

Tom Waits/Cookie Monster mashup - God’s Away On Business

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:30:31pm

re: #271 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

That big dent in the passenger-side door might also help with the identification.

I’m pretty sure Antifa caused that dent.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:31:02pm

re: #273 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

LOL, the only thing Trump has done for 4 hours since taking office is golf and try and take a poop.

At the same time? Definitely don’t use his golf cart.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:31:02pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:31:32pm

re: #273 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

LOL, the only thing Trump has done for 4 hours since taking office is golf and try and take a poop.

Seriously I don’t know where hte Trumpers get the idea that Trump somehow is going to land this knockout blow on Biden at the debates. Clinton beat Trump at the debates last time and Biden isn’t exactly inexperienced at debating. I do wondering who is playing Trump in the prep though heh.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:31:33pm

re: #268 i(m)p(each)sos

It’s important to remember that 2020 isn’t 2008 or 2000 or 1980.

When the polls close in Florida, whether it’s 8 or 9 ET, there might still be a couple of hours when polls in the west remain open…

…except that Oregon is now entirely vote by mail, and Washington, California and Nevada will be heavily vote by mail this year too.

And the three coastal states have no suspense to them. You could call them for Biden now, just as you can call ID, UT, WY, MT for Trump and CO and NM for Biden.

So now we’re down to just two states - NV and AZ - and a vanishingly small number of theoretical hesitant undecided voters who won’t have made up their minds by 7 PM MT on the last day of voting season?

Not buying it as a big factor this time around.

Washington is also an entirely vote by mail state.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:32:13pm

re: #277 Patricia Kayden

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Oh? Is that why you stand up for the flag of those who murdered him, Donald. We know the GOP is Lincoln’s party. We also know that under you it resembles George Lincoln Rockwell’s party.

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mmmirele  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:33:39pm

re: #21 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Another Republican with no regard for human life.

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This reminded me of an incident back in 2003 here in Arizona. The then Catholic bishop of Phoenix, Thomas O’Brien, hit a man crossing one of our major streets here. And then he drove off, because he thought he hit a DOG, or a CAT, or a ROCK. (This is complete and utter horseshit, IMHO.) If you’ve ever looked at a map of the Phoenix area, you’ll see that it is, for the most part, a grid system with one mile spacing. However, there are usually no lights between the one-mile intersections. O’Brien hit Jim Reed just shy of the intersection of Glendale and 19th Ave up on the northwest side. He was sentenced to four years probation and 1,000 hours of community service.

en.wikipedia.org

I’m just sharing this article to show how utterly disgusting and crass O’Brien’s family and friends were about the verdict.

eastvalleytribune.com

Anyway, the privileged always get off.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:35:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:39:10pm

re: #210 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

From the my dog is a weirdo file.

Yesterday, I was munching on some blueberries and gave one to Teddy. He did a yummy dance. So, I shared more berries and spent the rest of the day feeling guilty because I don’t typically share my blueberries with Teddy (although I do get him some crunchy blueberry treats from Fruitables from time to time).

Fast forward to today. Enjoying my mid-afternoon blueberry snack. Gave one to Teddy. He looked at me like I was poisoning him. Remembered why I don’t share my berries.

Even weirder is the fact that Teddy is now a Tropical Storm…

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:40:19pm

re: #278 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Seriously I don’t know where hte Trumpers get the idea that Trump somehow is going to land this knockout blow on Biden at the debates. Clinton beat Trump at the debates last time and Biden isn’t exactly inexperienced at debating. I do wondering who is playing Trump in the prep though heh.

Don’t know (they’re being pretty closed mouth about it) And who the fuck knows what the vulgar talking yam is up to in his debate prep:

August 9—The team agreed to meet at least every 10 days or so between now and the first debate, according to two sources familiar with the results of the meeting.

August 23—“The president said he’s already prepping for the debates. Are you?” Muir asked.

September 4—President Trump is taking a new approach to the upcoming presidential debates by doing something he didn’t in 2016: prep work.

September 9—The president has dismissed the typical debate preparations he participated in four years ago, joking to aides and allies that he’s been preparing for debates since he was born. His ability to fire back at an opponent in real time, he’s argued, “isn’t something you have to practice.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:43:12pm

re: #284 BeachDem

September 9—The president has dismissed the typical debate preparations he participated in four years ago, joking to aides and allies that he’s been preparing for debates since he was born. His ability to fire back at an opponent in real time, he’s argued, “isn’t something you have to practice.”

Right. Who can forget how effectively he countered HRC calling him “Putin’s Puppet” with the rapier-like comeback of “No puppet! No puppet! You’re the puppet!”

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TarHellion  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:52:25pm

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

At my local youth center back in the ’80s, we had a guy spell out a designated delivery area as “STPO.” We also have a current resident along the main highway advertising a house “For Sail.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 4:53:05pm

re: #272 retired cynic

Plus he could hold onto Melania.

she might slap away his hands.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2020 • 5:02:34pm

re: #275 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

I’m pretty sure Antifa caused that dent.

I’m betting Jack Danial’s did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2020 • 5:05:35pm

re: #286 TarHellion

At my local youth center back in the ’80s, we had a guy spell out a designated delivery area as “STPO.” We also have a current resident along the main highway advertising a house “For Sail.”

Styx - Come Sail Away (Official Video)

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2020 • 5:13:24pm

re: #278 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Seriously I don’t know where hte Trumpers get the idea that Trump somehow is going to land this knockout blow on Biden at the debates. Clinton beat Trump at the debates last time and Biden isn’t exactly inexperienced at debating. I do wondering who is playing Trump in the prep though heh.

Biden’s dog Major.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2020 • 5:14:38pm

re: #290 Eventual Carrion

Biden’s dog Major.

Is he given to humping legs?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2020 • 5:18:00pm

re: #291 Blind Frog Belly White

Is he given to humping legs?

tRump or Major?

Both I think, but only if Biden is wearing a Putin mask.


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