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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 14, 2020 • 8:54:18pm

“We are an advanced and educated nation with millions of morons wrapped around our ankles trying to get us to come back inside the cave and look at chicken bones to explain rainfall.” -Tom Nichols

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mmmirele  Sep 14, 2020 • 8:55:44pm

Here’s a tech college president, aged 56, who died of COVID-19 in Georgia. It sounds like he was a real benefit to his community and I’m sure his death leaves a hole.

North Georgia Technical College President Mark Ivester desperately wanted to attend a drive-thru ceremony on campus last month for spring and summer graduates, but he learned some family members had been diagnosed with COVID-19 and he wasn’t feeling well himself.

Ivester went to the hospital a few days later. He didn’t make it home.

ajc.com

I hate the people who say this is nothing. They’re full of it!

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2020 • 8:56:48pm

More info from the AP about the alleged forced hysterectomies…

apnews.com

And from The Guardian

theguardian.com

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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2020 • 9:03:36pm

re: #3 plansbandc

More info from the AP about the alleged forced hysterectomies…

apnews.com

The dreadful state of the Trump administration and the GOP is highlighted by the depressing fact that some deplorable nut job in the administration allegedly sterilizing every non-white immigrant detainee woman he can get his hands on is completely in character.

Decades of right wing raving about ‘anchor babies’ can be expected to have pathological consequences in true believers in this shit.

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2020 • 9:06:04pm

re: #4 EPR-radar

It makes me ill.

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TarHellion  Sep 14, 2020 • 9:15:38pm

re: #5 plansbandc

In a second term, how long until they offer “showers” to immigrants.

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2020 • 9:17:50pm

re: #6 TarHellion

I don’t doubt anything from them. I expect to be forced into a van and taken to a camp.

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TarHellion  Sep 14, 2020 • 9:25:09pm

re: #7 plansbandc

Neither do I. And the people who are willing to give up their humanity astounds me.

Today I had teased a Cowboys fan about losing - albeit controversially Sunday night. She said she is boycotting the NFL due to new anthem policies and how protest is disrespectful to the military. I simply said the military defended everyone’s right to protest. She walked away.

We are in Nazi territory folks. There are 40 percent of the populace now who gladly would align themselves with Der Fuhrer in 1932. Fuck!

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2020 • 9:31:01pm

re: #4 EPR-radar

The dreadful state of the Trump administration and the GOP is highlighted by the depressing fact that some deplorable nut job in the administration allegedly sterilizing every non-white immigrant detainee woman he can get his hands on is completely in character.

Decades of right wing raving about ‘anchor babies’ can be expected to have pathological consequences in true believers in this shit.

We still need to wait until the allegations are confirmed — and if they are, then unbridled “Fire and Fury” must rain down on all involved.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 14, 2020 • 9:39:08pm

Sally not going anywhere quickly:

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thecommodore  Sep 14, 2020 • 9:44:26pm

ANTIFA!!!

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 9:58:09pm
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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 9:59:25pm

re: #11 thecommodore

Anarchists who couldn’t be bothered to go to the three sides of the building that weren’t fenced in to destroy it. Antifa who didn’t have any tear gas.

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piratedan  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:02:25pm

re: #12 Belafon

what will happen is that some big brave soldier will come up to him with tears in his eyes and say “Sir, I’m sorry, but those liberal snowflakes voted you out of office despite all of those wonderful things you did for them”. “I don’t understand how they could do such a thing but maybe you could go to see your special friend in Moscow and he can tell you how proud he is about everything you did for America, to so many of us you’re STILL the best President we’ve ever had”…..

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:04:30pm
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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:08:51pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:13:12pm

re: #8 TarHellion

Neither do I. And the people who are willing to give up their humanity astounds me.

Today I had teased a Cowboys fan about losing - albeit controversially Sunday night. She said she is boycotting the NFL due to new anthem policies and how protest is disrespectful to the military. I simply said the military defended everyone’s right to protest. She walked away.

We are in Nazi territory folks. There are 40 percent of the populace now who gladly would align themselves with Der Fuhrer in 1932. Fuck!

Well I have relatives who now refer to the NFL as the “N-Clang” Football League…and they are boycotting…

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:16:13pm

re: #8 TarHellion

Neither do I. And the people who are willing to give up their humanity astounds me.

Today I had teased a Cowboys fan about losing - albeit controversially Sunday night. She said she is boycotting the NFL due to new anthem policies and how protest is disrespectful to the military. I simply said the military defended everyone’s right to protest. She walked away.

We are in Nazi territory folks. There are 40 percent of the populace now who gladly would align themselves with Der Fuhrer in 1932. Fuck!

What are the new anthem policies? And if they were prtotesting for more cancer research, would she be ok with that?

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:17:03pm

re: #17 🌹UOJB!

Well I have relatives who now refer to the NFL as the “N-Clang” Football League…and they are boycotting…

what have they thought the league consisted of the last 50 years?

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:17:57pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:19:28pm

re: #19 Belafon

what have they thought the league consisted of the last 50 years?

Good Xtian men who believe in Gawd, Glory and Guts…oh and the flag too…

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BeachDem  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:21:05pm

sports.yahoo.com

Bill Russell: Racism is not a historical
Footnote

A fabulous article by Bill Russell. Can’t pick a quote because every word is perfect. Always been one of my heroes and never disappoints.

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Jack Burton  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:28:47pm

re: #17 🌹UOJB!

Well I have relatives who now refer to the NFL as the “N-Clang” Football League…and they are boycotting…

My parents referred to the NBA in a similar way in the 1980s.

Strangely, or perhaps not, I remember my parents both being awfully racist when I was a kid, but they seemed to become less so as they got older. They are still two white (or rather one white, and one white/native american mix) boomers pushing 70 who probably will never full “get there” but them becoming “better” on race while becoming more conservative on other things I always thought was a little weird.

Any other white(ish) Gen-X people here notice this same thing about their parents?

Perhaps they just stopped saying certain things out loud and never got the Trump memo on it.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 14, 2020 • 10:43:33pm

re: #23 Jack Burton

My parents referred to the NBA in a similar way in the 1980s.

Strangely, or perhaps not, I remember my parents both being awfully racist when I was a kid, but they seemed to get become less so as they got older. They are still two white (or rather one white, and one white/native american mix) boomers pushing 70 who probably will never full “get there” but them becoming “better” on race while becoming more conservative on other things I always thought was a little weird.

Any other white(ish) Gen-X people here notice this same thing about their parents?

Perhaps they just stopped saying certain things out loud and never got the Trump memo on it.

My mother NEVER put up with racism. She was born and raised in South Carolina and she HATED segregation with a passion.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:05:20pm
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Jack Burton  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:22:34pm

re: #15 Belafon

Part of me is on this guys page, part of me not so much.

One my “issues” with “the left” during most of the GWB Administration was I felt there was a lot of over the top hysterical histrionics about how close to being Hitler GWB was (he wasn’t) and there was a “Boy Who Cried Wolf” issue with the opposition to Bush.

If you scream about how Bush is a fascist dictator who’s going to declare an emergency and cancel the election…. TWICE… and nothing remotely like that actually happens, who will listen or care what you are screaming about when it actually might be happening.

George W. Bush was a horrible President, and his administration did seriously fucked up things, but they weren’t the Nazis. Not even remotely. Godwin’s Law definitely still applied. I said often “If you think this is fascism, you are either an idiot or you are being intellectually dishonest.”

I fear a lot of people who are blowing off any danger from FFVCS are people saying “yeah you said all this shit about Bush too and nothing happened”.

BUT… part of me also wonders… am I, or others concerned about this, being over the top or engaging in doom porn? Are we giving these mafia clowns too much credit?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:33:13pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:34:45pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:37:07pm
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Citizen K  Sep 14, 2020 • 11:37:54pm

re: #28 Dread Pirate Ron

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And all of them are basically guaranteed to succeed even further solidifying Republicans’ stranglehold on the judiciary for at least a generation?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 12:09:31am

re: #3 plansbandc

More info from the AP about the alleged forced hysterectomies…

apnews.com

And from The Guardian

theguardian.com

“Preventing abortions!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 12:11:30am

re: #19 Belafon

what have they thought the league consisted of the last 50 years?

quiet, obedient step-and-fetch-it n-CLANGs

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2020 • 12:39:00am

Sally’s westward movement has really slowed, though it is creeping northward.

Possible landfall in Mobile.

It’s not a very strong hurricane, but it is so slow that the coastal areas will get a lot of rain by the time it is over.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2020 • 1:17:02am

re: #28 Dread Pirate Ron

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HEROES Act continues to languish, while the performative stunt of putting forward their “skinny” relief bill has instilled in them no feeling of urgency to get help to people. It was a box-checking exercise, pure and simple.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 1:21:56am

re: #34 Targetpractice

HEROES Act continues to languish, while the performative stunt of putting forward their “skinny” relief bill has instilled in them no feeling of urgency to get help to people. It was a box-checking exercise, pure and simple.

Keep the stock market buoyed up. If Biden wins, he can either continue to bail it out with more billions or watch it crash…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2020 • 1:29:34am
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Greup  Sep 15, 2020 • 1:33:36am

re: #35 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As far as i can tell that’s been their game plan for the last 40 years. Fuel wall street till it crashes making a lot of money on the way. The Democrats takes over and are forced to clean up the mess, usually that means slashing social programs hurting their own base. The base then turns republican and they (R) get reelected, Rinse and repeat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 1:54:42am

re: #37 Greup

As far as i can tell that’s been their game plan for the last 40 years. Fuel wall street till it crashes making a lot of money on the way. The Democrats takes over and are forced to clean up the mess, usually that means slashing social programs hurting their own base. The base then turns republican and they (R) get reelected, Rinse and repeat.

meanwhile, Middle-Class Americans see their retirement investments plundered.

I recently did a translation for a company that basically said that due to flat interest rates and stock market volatility, it can no longer promise a 100% return on money paid into the company retirement fund.

So basically, just spend it all and die young.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 15, 2020 • 2:22:29am
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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 2:29:13am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 15, 2020 • 2:34:36am

RELEASE DATE FOR THE EXPANSE SEASON 5

While we are glad that The Expanse will not face the excruciating problem due to the pandemic as the production had wrapped up by February 2020 and we can expect to see the show returning by December 2020.

However, The Expanse requires alot of special effects which make the show the way it is so it might take a while for makers to get done with that, but we see no reason for a delay in season 5.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 15, 2020 • 2:41:07am

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 15, 2020 • 3:38:16am

The intercept capability of C-RAM is effectively a land version of weapons such as the Phalanx CIWS radar-controlled rapid-fire gun for close-in protection of vessels from missiles; the weapon system also contains a forward-looking infrared (FLIR) camera to allow a soldier to visually identify these target threats before engaging the targets. One major difference between the land- and sea-based variants is the choice of ammunition. Whereas naval Phalanx systems fire tungsten armor-piercing rounds, the C-RAM uses the 20mm HEIT-SD (high-explosive incendiary tracer, self-destruct) ammunition, originally developed for the M163 Vulcan air defense system.

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John Hughes  Sep 15, 2020 • 3:39:33am

re: #39 Dread Pirate Ron

Today is Italy day, the day the US’s COVID-19 death rate (per capita) passes Italy’s.

91-divoc.com

Next stop, the UK (about two weeks I guess). Sweden is receding in the rear view mirror.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2020 • 3:48:36am

Sally appears to now be moving mostly northward:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 4:34:49am

hi

I hope our members in the Southeast are staying safe tonight.

My wife made dinner last night.

Pineapple on Pizza
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 4:58:52am
The Panhandle has moved to Phase 4, moving to the phase with lessened restrictions on Friday. Tabi Prochazka, deputy director for health prepardeness and promotions, called it a “myth” that the phase means that we can move to a “pre-COVID life.”

In fact, she said, because restrictions have decreased, it increases our personal responsibility to ensure that we are taking the necessary measures to limit the spread of the coronavirus.

Panhandle Public Health District announced twenty-six new cases, and one new death in Scottsbluff (bringing the total of deaths to eight, and the first in several months, PPHD will not update its dashboard until tomorrow afternoon).

It makes sense therefore to reduce restrictions further and just count on everyone to “do the right thing.”

The change to Phase 4 does eliminate restrictions on gatherings at churches, requirements to wear masks at places such as salons, and other restrictions. However, indoor gatherings remain limited to 75% of occupancy. Outdoor gatherings are allowed to be at 100% occupancy. Organizers of events that will have more than 500 people or venues with occupancy of more than 500 people continue to be required to complete an approval process through PPHD that examines health and safety efforts by planners.

PPHD announced 26 new COVID-19 cases, one additional death (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, more at the link)

Gee, we could have a Trump Coronapalooza rally here now. Altar calls to meet Jesus early.

Women remain 2/3 of cases (still an anomaly), and most infected age groups remain 40-49 followed by 20-29.

The dashboard is still messed up, with age ten as its own age group, but the 1899 date age group now removed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 5:13:08am

GOP targets NE-2 and IA-4 (Steve King’s district) for campaigning. Steve King was defeated in his primary by an equally-racist wingnut who has better control of his mouth.

Donald Trump Jr. visits Omaha, western Iowa to stump for dad as Biden buys local ad time Omaha World-Herald

TREYNOR, Iowa — Donald Trump Jr. toured a west Omaha gun club Monday before speaking here to a packed house of Trump fans about his dad’s reelection run.

His visit was the latest example of how Nebraska’s largest city and surrounding areas have become targets in the presidential race. Four days earlier, President Donald Trump’s campaign sent his daughter-in-law, Lara, on an Omaha-Council Bluffs swing for the GOP incumbent.

Meanwhile, the campaign of Democrat Joe Biden said it would start airing TV commercials in Omaha on Tuesday, three weeks sooner than planned. Also on Tuesday, Biden’s campaign plans an online visit with civil rights activist Dolores Huerta, who organized farmworkers with Cesar Chavez, and State Sen. Tony Vargas of Omaha.

At stake is the single electoral vote awarded in Nebraska’s 2nd Congressional District, the state’s most competitive district, which includes all of Douglas County and western Sarpy County.

(more)

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 5:26:08am

re: #23 Jack Burton

My parents referred to the NBA in a similar way in the 1980s.

Strangely, or perhaps not, I remember my parents both being awfully racist when I was a kid, but they seemed to become less so as they got older. They are still two white (or rather one white, and one white/native american mix) boomers pushing 70 who probably will never full “get there” but them becoming “better” on race while becoming more conservative on other things I always thought was a little weird.

Any other white(ish) Gen-X people here notice this same thing about their parents?

Perhaps they just stopped saying certain things out loud and never got the Trump memo on it.

My dad has gotten more liberal as he’s gotten older. My mom used to work at the county jail, but they both now agree that the stuff the police are doing needs to stop. My dad went from watching almost no politics to watching Maddow and Colbert every day and he event watched the Democratic convention for the first time.

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jeffreyw  Sep 15, 2020 • 5:38:07am

Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 5:41:51am

Extremely local news: The garbage company is here moving Dumpsters out of the way while the diggers are going at the alley digging up our sewer line now. The street between my house and the church is closed (my car is parked in front instead of the side street).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 5:49:57am

Cheyenne Wyoming Tribune-Eagle:

Wyoming: 462 (-74) active cases; 4,392 (+46) total cases (3,723 (+44) lab confirmed/669 (+2) probable); 3,884 (+116) people have recovered (3,295 (+84) lab confirmed/589 (+32) probable); 46 deaths

In Laramie County (seat and capital city, Cheyenne):

Laramie County: 50 (-20) active cases; 624 total cases (471 (+2) lab confirmed/153 (-2) probable); 570 (+20) people have recovered (424 (+16) lab confirmed/146 (+4) probable); 4 deaths

wyomingnews.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 5:53:58am

University of Wyoming Survey and Analysis Center survey notes that Covid-19 is hitting women hard in the state, especially single mothers. (Goes to PDF file with results and charts)

The Impacts of COVID-19 on Wyoming Women

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:00:19am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Extremely local news: The garbage company is here moving Dumpsters out of the way while the diggers are going at the alley digging up our sewer line now. The street between my house and the church is closed (my car is parked in front instead of the side street).

Every good road construction job needs a sidewalk superintendent, get your ass out there!

:)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:12:22am

re: #39 Dread Pirate Ron

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Jesus that was depressing.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:12:39am

Scientists Discover Area Of Brain That Controls Sexual Desire In Men…(All of it,
where’s my millions!?!?!)

A new discovery is opening the door to treating sexual dysfunction in men. Doctors from Northwestern University’s School of Medicine say a specific gene in the brain regulates sexual desire, making it possible for scientists to increase or decrease these impulses.

Researchers say the key is a gene called aromatase. In a certain area of the brain, this gene converts testosterone to estrogen and helps the male sex drive. Until now, scientists weren’t sure how big of a role aromatase played in this process.
“This is the first key finding to explain how testosterone stimulates sexual desire,” senior author Dr. Serdar Bulun says in a media release. “For the first time, we demonstrated conclusively that the conversion of testosterone to estrogen in the brain is critical to maintain full sexual activity or desire in males. Aromatase drives that.”

studyfinds.org

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:15:47am

The president is an off the rails certifiable loon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:17:19am

re: #56 Shropshire Slasher

Scientists Discover Area Of Brain That Controls Sexual Desire In Men…(All of it,
where’s my millions!?!?!)

studyfinds.org

Maybe this also has something to do with gynecomastia (too much estrogen)?

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:17:49am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:20:03am

re: #57 dangerman

The president is an off the rails certifiable loon

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He’s not being crazy. He’s laying as much groundwork as he can to challenge the election results as invalid.

He’s also ensuring his supporters will go nuts if he loses.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:20:50am

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s not being crazy. He’s laying as much groundwork as he can to challenge the election results as invalid.

He’s also ensuring his supporters will go nuts if he loses.

“How many rallies did they allow Biden to have?”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:21:30am

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s not being crazy. He’s laying as much groundwork as he can to challenge the election results as invalid.

He’s also ensuring his supporters will go nuts if he loses.

Washington Generals to Harlem Globetrotters: “If we lose, you cheated.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:21:48am

re: #62 Decatur Deb

Washington Generals to Harlem Globetrotters: “If we lose, you cheated.”

Basically, but with the Generals having guns.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:22:38am

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:23:05am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:24:14am

re: #65 dangerman

As it so happens the first debate is exactly two weeks from today.

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plansbandc  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:24:15am

re: #20 Belafon

I love duck armies.

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stpaulbear  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:24:44am

re: #56 Shropshire Slasher

Scientists Discover Area Of Brain That Controls Sexual Desire In Men…(All of it,
where’s my millions!?!?!)

studyfinds.org

Now study how that is affected by being locked up in the damned house for six months without coming closer than 6 feet to anyone. You should be able to measure the vibes with a seismograph.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:30:12am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Extremely local news: The garbage company is here moving Dumpsters out of the way while the diggers are going at the alley digging up our sewer line now. The street between my house and the church is closed (my car is parked in front instead of the side street).

Alert the media!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:32:01am

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s not being crazy. He’s laying as much groundwork as he can to challenge the election results as invalid.

He’s also ensuring his supporters will go nuts if he loses.

and that the press will bothsiderize it as if his claims had any validity.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:32:57am

re: #69 dangerman

Alert the media!

Well, I alerted LGF. /s

Creighton University is a Catholic college in Omaha.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:34:51am
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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:34:58am

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s not being crazy. He’s laying as much groundwork as he can to challenge the election results as invalid.

He’s also ensuring his supporters will go nuts if he loses.

you are right and in retrospect it’s not exactly what i meant

*we * are certifiable loonies.
mostly the R senate and the media
but we the people that have let this go on for 4 years where a comment like this is…crickets.

any other time if a president spoke like this they would haul him(her) off.

i guess i just had a ‘wake up’ moment.
he actually said this and no one bats an eyelash.
now multiply by countless times a day

sometimes i weep

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:35:16am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oh great, we’re back to this “legitimate rape” shit again?

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:35:17am

One of the reasons I don’t tend to give into despair is that I think about the people who have suffered through worse than what Trump and the GOP are throwing at us and keep going. If they can keep going and keep thinking that we can be better, then how can I despair:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:35:46am

re: #26 Jack Burton

Part of me is on this guys page, part of me not so much.

One my “issues” with “the left” during most of the GWB Administration was I felt there was a lot of over the top hysterical histrionics about how close to being Hitler GWB was (he wasn’t) and there was a “Boy Who Cried Wolf” issue with the opposition to Bush.

If you scream about how Bush is a fascist dictator who’s going to declare an emergency and cancel the election…. TWICE… and nothing remotely like that actually happens, who will listen or care what you are screaming about when it actually might be happening.

George W. Bush was a horrible President, and his administration did seriously fucked up things, but they weren’t the Nazis. Not even remotely. Godwin’s Law definitely still applied. I said often “If you think this is fascism, you are either an idiot or you are being intellectually dishonest.”

I fear a lot of people who are blowing off any danger from FFVCS are people saying “yeah you said all this shit about Bush too and nothing happened”.

BUT… part of me also wonders… am I, or others concerned about this, being over the top or engaging in doom porn? Are we giving these mafia clowns too much credit?

No. When three prominent Republicans have called for violence to keep Trump in power the last few days, and Trump himself keeps insisting the voting is rigged, so we know he will not concede defeat, we are not being over the top.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:36:37am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:38:04am

re: #74 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh great, we’re back to this “legitimate rape” shit again?

Yup, as an opinion piece in the Omaha World-Herald, the state’s largest newspaper which owns another of other newspapers in the state such as my regional paper (so it will probably appear in the Scottsbluff Star-Herald as well).

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:38:39am

deleted

Belafon beat me by a couple of minutes.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:38:56am

2020 is getting nuts.

(Translated)

Firefighters responded in Bílina na Teplicku due to a fire and explosions of stored ammunition in the police complex. Evacuation of people up to a distance of 500 meters was ordered.

In the first moments after the announcement of the incident, the police did not let the firefighters into the area. “We currently have seven units on site, that’s twelve vehicles,” said Milan Rudolf, a spokesman for the regional fire brigade.

“We are in front of the complex behind a high concrete wall and we are starting firefighting work. We are cooling the area and the site is being evacuated. The cause of the fire cannot be determined at this time, Rudolf told CNN Prima News before 2 p.m.

“Teplice police officers, together with the fire brigade, intervened in the fire of a rented warehouse in Bílina, which is used by the Pyrotechnic Service of the Policie Česká Republika (PCR) to store discarded ammunition. The area has been evacuated and a fire is currently being put out. The circumstances of the incident will be the subject of further investigation,” the police said on Twitter.

The ammunition depot is in the Chudeřice area north of the center of Bílina in the direction of Teplice. The I/13 road leads here, connecting the towns below the Ore Mountains. The road is closed at the entrance to Bílina, the detour route leads through Kostomlaty or Braňany. It was necessary to evacuate part of the Teplice Suburbs and the Czechoslovak Army Street.

According to Bílina Mayor Zuzana Schwarz-Bařtipánová, inhabited houses are more than 500 meters away from warehouses, so there has been no evacuation of citizens from their place of residence. Only the glassworks in Chudeřice, the local companies and the Municipal Technical Service of Bílina were evacuated.

In an interview with CNN Prima News, Schwarz-Bártipánová stated that until the moment of the explosion, she had no idea that there were any ammunition depots in place.

According to the mayor’s information, no one was injured. The rescue service of the Ústí Region did not have to respond, said its spokesman Prokop Voleník.

Original, in Czech: cnn.iprima.cz (autoplay video embedded at link)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:40:50am

State senator John McCollister (R, district 20, Omaha) made the comments a few weeks ago.

Nebraska GOP ready to boot Republican senator who accused Trump of “white supremacy” (Salon)

Senator McCollister describes himself as centre-right.

The Nebraska Republican Party called for Republican state Sen. John McCollister to register as a Democrat after he wrote that the GOP is “enabling white supremacy.”

Ryan Hamilton, the head of the state Republican Party, called for McCollister to “tell the truth about his partisan views and re-register as a Democrat” on Monday after he called out the party for being “complicit” to “obvious racist and immoral activity inside our party.”

(more)

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:42:30am

re: #77 Belafon

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Trump: Social distancing for me but not for thee

Trumpers: FOUR MORE YEARS!!

83
dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:44:57am

re: #75 Belafon

One of the reasons I don’t tend to give into despair is that I think about the people who have suffered through worse than what Trump and the GOP are throwing at us and keep going. If they can keep going and keep thinking that we can be better, then how can I despair:

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Ok I feel better

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:45:08am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More. Ryan Hamilton is the state GOP chair. In a nice display of passive-aggression, he mailed Senator McCollister a voter registration form to his office so he can change his party to Democratic.

Hamilton’s statement came just months after he vowed to crack down on racism in the party after an aide to Republican Gov. Pete Ricketts was caught posting wildly racist, anti-Semitic, and homophobic comments on a far-right YouTube page run by a far-right activist labeled a white nationalist.

85
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:45:43am

re: #82 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Trump: Social distancing for me but not for thee

Trumpers: FOUR MORE YEARS!!

I swear he could grab one of their daughters and it would only deepen their love for him. 40% of the electorate is fucking wacko.

86
Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:50:02am

re: #85 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m sick of his rallies. I’m sick of his cultish following. I’m sick of his families

I swear he could grab one of their daughters and it would only deepen their love for him. 40% of the electorate is fucking wacko.

Kind of like how European aristocrats used to pimp their daughters to the king. At least the aristocrats got land and wealth, MAGA dads just get another red hat.

87
Dr Lizardo  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:50:07am

re: #85 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I swear he could grab one of their daughters and it would only deepen their love for him. 40% of the electorate is fucking wacko.

Trump could kick in their doors, clobber their grandmother over the head with a nine iron, rape their 14-year-old daughter in front of them (while tweeting about what a “fine piece of ass” she is) and his deranged cultists would see it as the greatest day of their lives.

88
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:50:10am

re: #85 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I swear he could grab one of their daughters and it would only deepen their love for him. 40% of the electorate is fucking wacko.

they would never let her wash herself again

89
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:50:43am

re: #85 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I swear he could grab one of their daughters and it would only deepen their love for him. 40% of the electorate is fucking wacko.

In some cultures it was considered an honor for the King to come to your village and (basically) rape your underage daughter.

90
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:52:17am

Mobile, Alabama radar clearly shows Hurricane Sally.

radar.weather.gov

91
Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:52:27am

Scientific American Endorses Joe Biden
We’ve never backed a presidential candidate in our 175-year history—until now

92
dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:53:40am

re: #87 Dr Lizardo

Trump could kick in their doors, clobber their grandmother over the head with a nine iron, rape their 14-year-old daughter in front of them (while tweeting about what a “fine piece of ass” she is) and his deranged cultists would see it as the greatest day of their lives.

Cult is right

Axios: “To his diehard supporters, Trump isn’t just a candidate. He’s a lifestyle choice and a vehicle for self-expression — a way to continually flip the middle finger at big media, big business, big government … anything big.”

“It’s all part of one of the big Trump triumphs — convincing his voters that an attack on him is actually an attack on them.”

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:55:03am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy bulkshiting on a stick and projecting like IMAX.

It took all of 5 minutes to find necessary data to show how easily Trump is making up bulkshit about wildfires and drought. And I got retweeted by Morgan Fairchild, so my day is made (it would have been the week had it been Morgan Freeman, but beggars can’t be choosy)

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:56:47am

re: #92 dangerman

a way to continually flip the middle finger at big media, big business, big government

It’s baffling because no one represents the corruption of big media and big business (and now big government) more than Donald Trump.

95
stpaulbear  Sep 15, 2020 • 6:58:11am

re: #93 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy bulkshiting on a stick and projecting like IMAX.

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It took all of 5 minutes to find necessary data to show how easily Trump is making up bulkshit about wildfires and drought. And I got retweeted by Morgan Fairchild, so my day is made (it would have been the week had it been Morgan Freeman, but beggars can’t be choosy)

Yeah, but it only took Trump one second to find the facts in his head (using his ass as a backup memory).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:00:15am

re: #92 dangerman

“It’s all part of one of the big Trump triumphs — convincing his voters that an attack on him is actually an attack on them.”

whatever else you can say, do not misunderestimate his ability to manipulate the media

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:05:55am

re: #94 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

It’s baffling because no one represents the corruption of big media and big business (and now big government) more than Donald Trump.

racism

xenophobia

misogyny

homophobia

islamophobia

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:06:02am

re: #93 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy bulkshiting on a stick and projecting like IMAX.

[Embedded content]

It took all of 5 minutes to find necessary data to show how easily Trump is making up bulkshit about wildfires and drought. And I got retweeted by Morgan Fairchild, so my day is made (it would have been the week had it been Morgan Freeman, but beggars can’t be choosy)

they also dont have pyrotechnic gender reveal parties, im guessing

99
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:06:34am

re: #91 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Scientific American Endorses Joe Biden
We’ve never backed a presidential candidate in our 175-year history—until now

Wow, that’s quite an article. The only thing it doesn’t have is vote the other Republicans out too (though they do state that it is unclear how much of Joe Biden’s agenda can be passed without Congressional help).

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:06:42am

re: #94 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

It’s baffling because no one represents the corruption of big media and big business (and now big government) more than Donald Trump.

it’s all part of the ‘dont try and make sense out of any of this’ mythos

101
jaunte  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:06:53am
102
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:07:01am

re: #98 dangerman

they also dont have pyrotechnic gender reveal parties, im guessing

In Soviet Russia, gender reveal you!!!

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:07:56am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

whatever else you can say, do not misunderestimate his ability to manipulate the media

or the media’s ability desire to be willingly led by the nose, as in: re: #59 dangerman

edited

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:09:16am

re: #93 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy bulkshiting on a stick and projecting like IMAX.

It took all of 5 minutes to find necessary data to show how easily Trump is making up bulkshit about wildfires and drought. And I got retweeted by Morgan Fairchild, so my day is made (it would have been the week had it been Morgan Freeman, but beggars can’t be choosy)

When I was stationed in Spain in the early Nineties, Andalucia was suffering from a long-term drought. The Navy listed Rota as hardship duty then; the city had water rationing in place when I arrived. (Water was shut off between 1900 and 0600 to homes every night.)

That area of Spain has lots of forest land just north of the coast, with lots of cork trees. It’s amazing how fast a cork tree goes up in flames or explodes in a forest fire.

105
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:10:46am

re: #101 jaunte

Atheists not welcome in any Republican-promoted “religious inclusion” event.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:13:30am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:16:06am

“Goodyear Blimp” is trending on Twitter. It seems that people saw the blimp and wrongly thought it was a UFO (as in alien spacecraft).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:17:08am
109
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:17:48am

re: #103 dangerman

or the media’s ability desire to be willingly led by the nose, as in:

edited

it plays both ways: he gives them a 24/7 political reality/sex-scandal/crime show that guarantees viewership. they have no financial interest in seeing that end…

110
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:19:02am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who had “Goodyear Blimp mistaken for UFO” on their 2020 Apocalypse Bingo Card?

The Monsters have indeed come to Maple Street…

111
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:19:50am

So his campaign IS having money troubles.

112
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:20:30am

GOP Projectin’ Like An IMAX in Outer Space…

113
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:25:55am

Atheist Republic (religion counter-apologists, primarily against Islam but also against fundamentalist Christians) report on a documentary about the two girls were part of the Nazi duo “Prussian Blue.”

The girls say they have left racism entirely behind, and characterise themselves as “pretty liberal.”

(Caution for unusual words or sounds substituting for “Nazi” and “white,” which gets a video banned from YouTube when countering white supremacists, 14:45)

Former N*zi Twins: ‘We’ve Unlearned Racist Ideology’ 🤩

114
stpaulbear  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:26:57am

Flying Saucers Over Hollywood, 1950s - Film 99761

Kind of strange with no sound, but it almost as good without Kriswell.

115
danarchy  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:37:42am

re: #56 Shropshire Slasher

Scientists Discover Area Of Brain That Controls Sexual Desire In Men…(All of it,
where’s my millions!?!?!)

studyfinds.org

I am not a microbiologist, but I am pretty sure aromatase is an enzyme not a gene. Maybe they found a gene responsible for the production of aromatase? Seems like sloppy science writing.

116
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:38:13am

Ukrainian Orthodox Patriarch Filaret, 91, who blamed coronavirus on “gay marriage” has contracted Covid-19 and is now in hospital.

Church Leader Who Blamed Coronavirus on Gay Marriage Contracts COVID-19 (Newsweek)

117
Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:41:22am

re: #75 Belafon

One of the reasons I don’t tend to give into despair is that I think about the people who have suffered through worse than what Trump and the GOP are throwing at us and keep going. If they can keep going and keep thinking that we can be better, then how can I despair:

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Take the helm, Sulu.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:42:02am

re: #115 danarchy

I am not a microbiologist, but I am pretty sure aromatase is an enzyme not a gene. Maybe they found a gene responsible for the production of aromatase? Seems like sloppy science writing.

Yes, aromatase is an enzyme (see Wikipedia).

Reading up on that enzyme says it is indeed implicated in gynecomastia in men.

It is encoded by genes on chromosome 15.

en.wikipedia.org

119
jaunte  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:42:04am

DRACONIAN GOVERNORS

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:45:01am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ukrainian Orthodox Patriarch Filaret, 91, who blamed coronavirus on “gay marriage” has contracted Covid-19 and is now in hospital.

Church Leader Who Blamed Coronavirus on Gay Marriage Contracts COVID-19 (Newsweek)

Someone should ask him about his relationships, since he’s obviously part of the gay agenda. //

121
danarchy  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:45:06am

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yes, aromatase is an enzyme (see Wikipedia).

Reading up on that enzyme says it is indeed implicated in gynecomastia in men.

It is encoded by genes on chromosome 15.

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah, I went back to the source study and they pretty clearly state they isolated the single gene responsible for the expression of aromatase. The gene is named Cyp19a1.

122
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:47:55am

Vicky Phelan appeals for politicians to support bill on assisted dying (RTÉ, Ireland)

Campaigner Vicky Phelan has appealed to politicians to support the “Dying with Dignity Bill” that will be reintroduced in the Dáil tomorrow.

People Before Profit TD Gino Kenny has brought a bill on assisted dying in Ireland back on the political agenda in recent weeks.

At a press conference this afternoon, Ms Phelan said people with terminal illnesses should be given the choice to die.

“No matter how good palliative care is, there is still a certain amount of suffering that palliative care often cannot get on top of,” she said.

“I have two young children and I’m going to die within the next few years and I don’t want my children’s last memories to be of me dying in pain.

“I want to make that choice.”

(more)

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NetworkKed  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:48:11am

re: #119 jaunte

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DRACONIAN GOVERNORS

Speaking of Halloween, WTF is that dude wearing? Is this some sort of signalling that they’re not serious about this? Or that their crisis-actor-interviewee thinks that this is correct role-play?

Or does he just want to be a cow?

124
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:48:13am

re: #119 jaunte

Who’s the dude in the cow outfit?

125
dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:49:17am

re: #111 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]

So his campaign IS having money troubles.

AND implying that poll numbers have sucked (up to now)

126
Dr Lizardo  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:49:26am

re: #119 jaunte

[Embedded content]

DRACONIAN GOVERNORS

Who’s the doofus dressed like a bovine?

127
Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:49:54am

re: #124 Eclectic Cyborg

Who’s the dude in the cow outfit?

Doesn’t seem like a proper furry. A hide-y perhaps?

128
Barefoot Grin  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:50:00am

re: #123 NetworkKed

Speaking of Halloween, WTF is that dude wearing? Is this some sort of signalling that they’re not serious about this? Or that their crisis-actor-interviewee thinks that this is correct role-play?

Or does he just want to be a cow?

How now, Dow cow?

129
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:50:19am

re: #119 jaunte

DRACONIAN GOVERNORS

Who’s the guy dressed up like a Gateway computer box with Lou Dobbs?

130
dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:51:06am

re: #119 jaunte

[Embedded content]

DRACONIAN GOVERNORS

what the eff is that guy wearing?

131
steve_davis  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:51:58am

in more optimistic news, I followed the first decent haircut I’ve gotten in six months by starting split pea soup in the clay pot. Water sounded boring so that got turned into chicken broth. Ham as well. No vegetarians need apply!

132
dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:52:03am

re: #123 NetworkKed

Speaking of Halloween, WTF is that dude wearing? Is this some sort of signalling that they’re not serious about this? Or that their crisis-actor-interviewee thinks that this is correct role-play?

Or does he just want to be a cow?

re: #124 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #130 dangerman

good…. so not just me

133
jaunte  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:53:14am

re: #123 NetworkKed

I think he’s dressed up as the ‘spirit of hamberders the libs want to take away from you.’

134
dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:53:32am

re: #128 Barefoot Grin

How now, Dow cow?

How Now, Dow Jones

135
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:54:06am

Okay, I have an answer. Cow Guy is named Scott Shellady.

Apparently the cow jacket is a personal trademark of his.

136
Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:54:31am

re: #133 jaunte

I think he’s dressed up as the ‘spirit of hamberders the libs want to take away from you.’

Needs to be careful around here—one of our deer hunters would tag him for sure.

137
lawhawk  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:55:54am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who’s the guy dressed up like a Gateway computer box with Lou Dobbs?

Stuart Varney, not Lou Dobbs.

I know it’s tough to tell the right wing lunatics apart. But the dude in the Gateway computer box (dating ourselves there?!) What’s the message he’s trying to send? That he’s a Devin Nunes fan? That he’s off to the slaughterhouse?

138
dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:57:08am

re: #133 jaunte

I think he’s dressed up as the ‘spirit of hamberders the libs want to take away from you.’

i was reading about Dick Tuck this very morning (electoral-vote.com sent me)

wiki includes this comment:

Neil Steinberg, who covered Tuck in his 1992 book If At All Possible, Involve A Cow: The Book of College Pranks.

139
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 7:58:39am

re: #135 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay, I have an answer. Cow Guy is named Scott Shellady.

Apparently the cow jacket is a personal trademark of his.

140
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:01:11am

re: #137 lawhawk

Stuart Varney, not Lou Dobbs.

I know it’s tough to tell the right wing lunatics apart. But the dude in the Gateway computer box (dating ourselves there?!) What’s the message he’s trying to send? That he’s a Devin Nunes fan? That he’s off to the slaughterhouse?

They’ll pry Hallowe’en from my cold dead hooves.

(5:08)

Cows With Guns - The Original Animation

141
William Lewis  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:01:19am

re: #137 lawhawk

But the dude in the Gateway computer box (dating ourselves there?!

Just when you thought you knew your computer brands…

To borrow the opening from The Outer Limits, there is nothing wrong with your display, do not attempt to adjust the picture. Yes, there are actually new Gateway PCs on the market, wrapped in cow-spotted packaging like the old days (as in, two decades ago). And they are only available at Walmart.

Some of you reading this might not remember Gateway, serving as a sobering reminder that I’m getting old. Gateway predates The Simpsons by several years, coming into existence in 1985 and maintaining a significant presence in the PC market through the 1990s, and early 2000s. Then the hard times hit, and in 2007 Acer snatched up Gateway for $710 million.

The Gateway brand never entirely disappeared, but its presence was certainly diminished, and I imagine largely forgotten by many. Be that as it may, Acer is looking to leverage the brand with a new lineup of laptops, 2-in-1 systems, and even a couple of tablets.

Walmart is selling Gateway PCs and no, the year is not 1999

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:03:10am

re: #50 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:05:47am

Wait, so Christians have been making war on Hallowe’en all these years, and now they’re upset someone took them up on it?

144
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:09:07am

re: #141 William Lewis

Just when you thought you knew your computer brands…

Walmart is selling Gateway PCs and no, the year is not 1999

I need a new laptop, but Wal*mart is right out.

I’ll get a new one at the same computer shop in Scottsbluff I bought my HP at.

145
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:10:26am
146
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:12:09am

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Good start but still not enough.

148
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:18:20am

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

Good start but still not enough.

According to the article, a grand jury is looking into the shooting to see if an indictment of murder should be handed down. It also says the settlement includes a bonus for police officers who live within the city and a number of reforms.

149
danarchy  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:20:47am

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wait, so Christians have been making war on Hallowe’en all these years, and now they’re upset someone took them up on it?

[Embedded content]

I just listened to the clip and I didn’t hear christians mentioned.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:23:51am

re: #149 danarchy

I just listened to the clip and I didn’t hear christians mentioned.

This is FOX, the home of the endless War on Christmas.

Jews or Hindus don’t complain about Hallowe’en; only one group does that.

151
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:24:31am
152
dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:25:58am
A federal appeals court ruled on Monday that the Trump administration acted within its authority in terminating legal protections that have allowed hundreds of thousands of immigrants to live and work legally in the United States, sometimes for decades, after fleeing conflict or natural disasters in their home countries,” the New York Times reports

what possible motivation could there be to do this?

400,000 people who are
legal
working
paying taxes
not a threat or acting out like the ‘illegals’ do (//)
in every sense of the word ‘integrated’ into society

proof that all the R arguments have always been bullshit
the cruelty is the point

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:27:12am
Toilet paper is back on store shelves. But you may not recognize some of the brands.

Demand for toilet paper has been so high during the pandemic that in order to keep their shelves stocked, retailers are buying up foreign toilet paper brands, mostly from Mexico. Major chains, across the country, including CVS, Piggly Wiggly, Safeway, 7-Eleven and others, are carrying the international brands.

In recent weeks, a CVS in New York has been selling three Mexican brands: Regio, Hoteles Elite and Daisy Soft. Mexico’s Petalo was on the shelves of a Piggly Wiggly in Sister Bay, Wisconsin. And a Safeway supermarket in Fremont, California, had those same brands, plus Vogue, whose label says in Spanish that it smells like chamomile.

(more)

Virus updates: Pandemic brings Mexican toilet paper to US stores; UK facing testing shortage (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, two minutes ago)

154
Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:28:59am

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is FOX, the home of the endless War on Christmas.

Jews or Hindus don’t complain about Hallowe’en; only one group does that.

More importantly, “War on X” means “War on Christians” which really means “War on Whites.”

155
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:29:30am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Toilet paper is back on store shelves. But you may not recognize some of the brands.

Germans have a brand of TP called “Happy End”

156
Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:30:16am

re: #152 dangerman

what possible motivation could there be to do this?

400,000 people who are
legal
working
paying taxes
not a threat or acting out like the ‘illegals’ do (//)
in every sense of the word ‘integrated’ into society

proof that all the R arguments have always been bullshit
the cruelty is the point

For all those people who say you should come here legally and work and you’ll be protected…

157
steve_davis  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:30:45am

re: #127 Decatur Deb

Doesn’t seem like a proper furry. A hide-y perhaps?

Devin Nunes’ spirit animal.

158
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:31:59am

Good.

Former Omaha TV meteorologist who threatened county health director found guilty

A former Omaha TV meteorologist who threatened to “lynch” and slit the throat of Douglas County Health Director Adi Pour has taken a plea deal.

Ronald G. Penzkowski, who went by the name Ron Gerard, pleaded no contest on Friday to two counts of third-degree assault and was found guilty by a judge. Monday, he pleaded no contest to stalking and was found guilty.

Third-degree assault and stalking are misdemeanors. Each charge carries a maximum penalty of one year in jail.

Penzkowski, 57, initially had been charged with terroristic threats, a felony.

He will be sentenced next month and in November.

(more)

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danarchy  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:35:00am

re: #150 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is FOX, the home of the endless War on Christmas.

Jews or Hindus don’t complain about Hallowe’en; only one group does that.

People complain all the time when towns or counties try to cancel or move halloween due to weather or whatever. Religion doesn’t need to be a factor, unless that is the filter you see everything through. re: #154 Belafon

More importantly, “War on X” means “War on Christians” which really means “War on Whites.”

There was no mention of a war on anything! It was a dude in a cow jacket complaining about goverment mandated shutdowns and mentioned one mayor cancelling halloween. Trying to tie it to a religion or racism is a freakin stretch.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:41:57am

re: #159 danarchy

People complain all the time when towns or counties try to cancel or move halloween due to weather or whatever. Religion doesn’t need to be a factor, unless that is the filter you see everything through.

There was no mention of a war on anything! It was a dude in a cow jacket complaining about goverment mandated shutdowns and mentioned one mayor cancelling halloween. Trying to tie it to a religion or racism is a freakin stretch.

And who was talking about cancelling Thanksgiving? I realize you’re job is to keep us on the facts, and it’s good that people here do that, but they’re itching to turn this into another round of going after things white people love.

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jaunte  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:44:05am

As long as there is a night before all saints day, halloween is not canceled.

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jaunte  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:44:28am

Trick-or-treating in a pandemic should be discouraged.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:44:40am

re: #141 William Lewis

Just when you thought you knew your computer brands…

Walmart is selling Gateway PCs and no, the year is not 1999

I have a (very) old Gateway around here somewhere. Last time I powered it up it started just fine. Has Windows 3.11 installed on it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:46:58am

re: #159 danarchy

People complain all the time when towns or counties try to cancel or move halloween due to weather or whatever. Religion doesn’t need to be a factor, unless that is the filter you see everything through.

Yes, not all Christians.

As I said above, I haven’t heard of any Jewish or Hindu groups which consistently, every year, claim Hallowe’en is an atheistic satanic holiday which warps the minds of children and leads them astray.

And some people attempt to cancel the holiday, such as noted religion counter-apologist Stewart Varney /s.

Anyway, Varney is lying.

chicagotribune.com

A couple of Chicago’s suburbs and some businesses shut down or modified what they’re doing, but Chicago hasn’t changed anything.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:50:31am

re: #156 Belafon

For all those people who say you should come here legally and work and you’ll be protected…

100% spot on

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:52:57am

re: #159 danarchy

People complain all the time when towns or counties try to cancel or move halloween due to weather or whatever. Religion doesn’t need to be a factor, unless that is the filter you see everything through.

There was no mention of a war on anything! It was a dude in a cow jacket complaining about goverment mandated shutdowns and mentioned one mayor cancelling halloween. Trying to tie it to a religion or racism is a freakin stretch.

its the proximity to christmas which makes it part of the (actually their) ‘holiday season’

if halloween was in May no one would give a rat’s ass

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:53:25am

I just had a realization: For some white people, the only source of pride they have is in what they believe to be their inherent superiority to non-white people.

They can’t otherwise find a purpose in or contribute to society, but they would never accept being on the bottom rung of the ladder so to them, the poorest white man is a more desirable friend and ally than the most successful black man and as long as whites are “superior” they by default have someone beneath them on the societal totem pole.

Even if they’re white trash losers.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:53:48am

re: #163 Eventual Carrion

I have a (very) old Gateway around here somewhere. Last time I powered it up it started just fine. Has Windows 3.11 installed on it.

windows 3.1 was my all time favorite

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:54:09am

re: #160 Belafon

And who was talking about cancelling Thanksgiving? I realize you’re job is to keep us on the facts, and it’s good that people here do that, but they’re itching to turn this into another round of going after things white people love.

re: #162 jaunte

Trick-or-treating in a pandemic should be discouraged.

Thanksgiving is one of the most heavily-travelled holidays in the year. Moreover, it gathers large crowds of people together in homes closer together than restaurants.

If 162 is true, then 160 should also be true.

Experts advise rethinking Thanksgiving traditions as COVID-19 cases increase (Chicago Daily Herald, nineteen hours ago)

Statistics, then:

Given that, now’s a good time to hit the reset button on your traditional Thanksgiving feast with extended family and friends, experts advise.

Sitting unmasked in proximity with people at a table for a lengthy period means “a high risk of transmission,” Pinsky said.

“I think there’s risk involved having Thanksgiving dinner with family and friends.”

Instead, consider finding an activity to do together that doesn’t involve eating, or consider seating guests apart from each other, preferably outside, he advised.

(more)

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:55:02am

re: #167 Eclectic Cyborg

I just had a realization: For some white people, the only source of pride they have is in what they believe to be their inherent superiority to non-white people.

They can’t otherwise find a purpose in or contribute to society, but they would never accept being on the bottom rung of the ladder so to them, the poorest white man is a more desirable friend and ally than the most successful black man and as long as whites are “superior” they by default have someone beneath them on the societal totem pole.

Even if they’re white trash losers trump supporters.

just helpin’ out….

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:55:28am

re: #160 Belafon

And who was talking about cancelling Thanksgiving? I realize you’re job is to keep us on the facts, and it’s good that people here do that, but they’re itching to turn this into another round of going after things white people love.

Mayor Lightfoot wants to cancel traditional trick-or-treating given that it’s not a particularly good idea in the year of the plague for kids to be knocking on people’s doors asking for candy. Many homeowners are not enthusiastic about answering their doors at this time. And the speaker did allege that the next holiday on the hit list was Thanksgiving because the authorities might try to limit the number of people you can have at your dinner table.

This is all on Trump and his continuing refusal to treat the pandemic as a serious threat to human lives and health. There would not be this persistent pushback against health measures if he had been supportive from day one. Yes, libertarians would probably voice disapproval, but without Trump’s megaphone they would have had little impact.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:55:52am

re: #167 Eclectic Cyborg

I just had a realization: For some white people, the only source of pride they have is in what they believe to be their inherent superiority to non-white people.

They can’t otherwise find a purpose in or contribute to society, but they would never accept being on the bottom rung of the ladder so to them, the poorest white man is a more desirable friend and ally than the most successful black man and as long as whites are “superior” they by default have someone beneath them on the societal totem pole.

Even if they’re white trash losers.

President Johnson said something similar.

“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:00:49am

re: #168 dangerman

windows 3.1 was my all time favorite

It was a simpler time…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:01:24am

(13:39)

Steven Anderson (Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Pastor who’s prayed for death for Barack Obama and Caitlin Jennings, and advocates for the death penalty for LGBT people) has been banned from YouTube (finally).

Caution for coarse language and adult subject matter.

Steven Anderson Finally Banned From YouTube

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jaunte  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:02:09am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:02:59am

The Mandalorian season two trailer just dropped. Looks great.

The Mandalorian | Season 2 Official Trailer | Disney+

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:05:05am

Fucking asshole

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:05:28am

Also, I don’t think Fox cares about any religion. I don’t think they’d care about race if it weren’t divisive. But they need the white Christianists to think they’re being persecuted in some way - “They’re coming for your white marshmallows!” - so that they can drive a wedge between poor whites and poor minorities, who should be allies.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:06:11am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

FLCL reference for the win.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:07:28am

re: #178 Belafon

Also, I don’t think Fox cares about any religion. I don’t think they’d care about race if it weren’t divisive. But they need the white Christianists to think they’re being persecuted in some way - “They’re coming for your white marshmallows!” - so that they can drive a wedge between poor whites and poor minorities, who should be allies.

Fox needs the culture wars to keep their viewers glued and outraged.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:08:28am

re: #168 dangerman

windows 3.1 was my all time favorite

Windows 3.1 was good with PC Tools. XP is my favorite version.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:09:51am

re: #171 Hecuba’s daughter

Mayor Lightfoot wants to cancel traditional trick-or-treating given that it’s not a particularly good idea in the year of the plague for kids to be knocking on people’s doors asking for candy. Many homeowners are not enthusiastic about answering their doors at this time. And the speaker did allege that the next holiday on the hit list was Thanksgiving because the authorities might try to limit the number of people you can have at your dinner table.

This is all on Trump and his continuing refusal to treat the pandemic as a serious threat to human lives and health. There would not be this persistent pushback against health measures if he had been supportive from day one. Yes, libertarians would probably voice disapproval, but without Trump’s megaphone they would have had little impact.

Then I will take back a bunch of it. I still think Fox’s entire aspect is the culture war one.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:11:42am

Typical selfish Republican who only does the right thing after something impacts them personally.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:12:12am

re: #180 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Fox needs the culture wars to keep their viewers glued and outraged.

Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if internally they are hoping Trump loses so they can go back on defense.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:14:17am

re: #179 Belafon

FLCL reference for the win.

Steven Anderson ranting about Insane Clown Posse is also a win (that and his refusal to be questioned crossing the border from Mexico by Border Patrol, resulting in his being Tasered, Utah Outcasts always includes that clip when talking about Anderson).

Anderson has been banned from almost fifty countries for calling for state execution of LGBT, Muslims, and atheists.

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danarchy  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:15:57am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if internally they are hoping Trump loses so they can go back on defense.

Their ratings are higher than ever so I doubt it. Paradoxically, I wouldn’t be surprised if msnbc took a ratings hit if Biden wins.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:16:17am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if internally they are hoping Trump loses so they can go back on defense.

Yeah there’s always gonna be outrage in right wing circles. I can’t wait for them to suddenly care about the debt again the moment Biden signs a stimulus bill.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:17:08am

re: #178 Belafon

Also, I don’t think Fox cares about any religion. I don’t think they’d care about race if it weren’t divisive. But they need the white Christianists to think they’re being persecuted in some way - “They’re coming for your white marshmallows!” - so that they can drive a wedge between poor whites and poor minorities, who should be allies.

Yes — Fox doesn’t care about religion except as part of the culture wars, but being racist seems to be a core belief of theirs. Tucker certainly promotes racism whenever he can. IMHO they really do believe that people of color are inferior to Caucasians.

Of course, I am basing my statements on what others have reported since I never watch Fox, except for a few clips that others have posted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:17:30am

re: #187 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah there’s always gonna be outrage in right wing circles. I can’t wait for them to suddenly care about the debt again the moment Biden signs a stimulus bill.

They were already breaking out the racist fainting couches yesterday when Kamala accidentally said “Harris Administration” instead if “Biden/Harris Administration”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:20:44am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

They were already breaking out the racist fainting couches yesterday when Kamala accidentally said “Harris Administration” instead if “Biden/Harris Administration”

I’m sure. I hope old Rupert lives to see a Harris administration so he’ll die having seen a black and woman President. It’s everything he’s fought his entire life against.

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retired cynic  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:22:09am

re: #184 Eclectic Cyborg

Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if internally they are hoping Trump loses so they can go back on defense.

Offense. Against the government, rather than defending it.

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A Cranky One  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:23:58am

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:24:49am

re: #191 retired cynic

Offense. Against the government, rather than defending it.

That’s always been true for the likes of Limbaugh. The Clinton years were better for his checkbook than the Bush ones. Likewise, it’s why I don’t trust Michael Moore to be a good faith supporter of liberalism.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:28:20am

re: #188 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes — Fox doesn’t care about religion except as part of the culture wars, but being racist seems to be a core belief of theirs. Tucker certainly promotes racism whenever he can. IMHO they really do believe that people of color are inferior to Caucasians.

Of course, I am basing my statements on what others have reported since I never watch Fox, except for a few clips that other have posted.

Fox has been going on about religion for many years, particularly against atheists and Muslims. It fits the GOP, which does the same.

Atheism Is a Religion Too (FOX, 2013)

This is an apologetics talking point which has been around for generations. It is false.

(4:14)

Atheists Insulted On Fox News Religion Panel

You know, about 60 years ago, secularists started telling us that, as a nation, we could be good without God. And so we tried to pass along values without the undergirding spiritual foundation for that, and it’s been a complete wreck.

You know, somebody said socialism works until you run out of other people’s money. Well, secularism works until you run out of other people’s faith, and, as a nation, we can’t live on the faith of three generations ago. We have to embrace faith and pass it on to our children.

(more)

friendlyatheist.patheos.com (2019)

There are endless examples of this on FOX, and to a lesser extent CNN.

They also frequently go after Muslims on FOX as well (probably their best example is banging on “no-go” zones and Park 51 in Manhattan).

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:31:27am

re: #190 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m sure. I hope old Rupert lives to see a Harris administration so he’ll die having seen a black and woman President. It’s everything he’s fought his entire life against.

Murdoch is Australian — and Australia has its own long history of racism toward its indigenous population. He epitomizes this racist attitude, and it wouldn’t be surprising if much of the racist hostility toward Obama was instigated through his media empire. We have had this problem since the beginning of our nation and Rupert has done his best to inflame it further.

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retired cynic  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:34:46am

Another reason to feel more hopeful.

Biden is gearing up for a post-election legal clusterf-ck
Trump’s unprecedented assault on the electoral process has the Democratic nominee and his team preparing for a battle in the courts. by Eric Lutz, Vanity Fair

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:36:12am

re: #195 Hecuba’s daughter

Murdoch is Australian — and Australia has its own long history of racism toward its indigenous population. He epitomizes this racist attitude, and it wouldn’t be surprising if much of the racist hostility toward Obama was instigated through his media empire. We have had this problem since the beginning of our nation and Rupert has done his best to inflame it further.

Oh for sure. His bigotry was ingrained in him long before he got into the American media. He’s one of the most rotten media figures in history. I’m not looking forward to his awful legacy being sugarcoated by people who weren’t the subjects of who his outlets pushed resentments against.

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danarchy  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:37:21am
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Jay C  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:38:25am

re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg

It was a simpler time…

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Man, does that make me feel old: I recognize (and could probably operate) half those functions….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:40:34am

re: #199 Jay C

Man, does that make me feel old: I recognize (and could probably operate) half those functions….

Same lol.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:41:49am

re: #162 jaunte

Trick-or-treating in a pandemic should be discouraged.

We are playing with a reversal of trunk-or-treat, in which kids will drive by distanced stations in the public park, and costumed adults (spooky masks over masks) will drop sealed commercial goodies in bags on their side mirrors. Communication and logistics are tricky, but we have sponsors and city clearance.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:43:31am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thanksgiving is one of the most heavily-travelled holidays in the year. Moreover, it gathers large crowds of people together in homes closer together than restaurants.

This. I fear TG will be a much bigger spreader event than Halloween.

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sagehen  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:44:40am

re: #166 dangerman

its the proximity to christmas which makes it part of the (actually their) ‘holiday season’

if halloween was in May no one would give a rat’s ass

oh, honey.

Costumes. Candy.

If it were August, February, even July 3rd it would still matter to me.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:45:34am

Weren’t at least one of these guys supposed to be in jail by now?

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:45:49am

re: #201 Decatur Deb

We are playing with a reversal of trunk-or-treat, in which kids will drive by distanced stations in the public park, and costumed adults (spooky masks over masks) will drop sealed commercial goodies in bags on their side mirrors. Communication and logistics are tricky, but we have sponsors and city clearance.

We’re going to decorate our yard as usual, but we’re going to put a table at the end of the sidewalk rather than have people come up to the house. And we’re going to make it so that you have to either pull up or get on the sidewalk in the same direction as traffic flow. And then I’m going to hand out whole candy bars.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:46:59am

re: #205 Belafon

We’re going to decorate our yard as usual, but we’re going to put a table at the end of the sidewalk rather than have people come up to the house. And we’re going to make it so that you have to either pull up or get on the sidewalk in the same direction as traffic flow. And then I’m going to hand out whole candy bars.

Be a mad doctor or radiation cleanup worker with PPE and big tongs.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:47:01am

re: #204 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

Weren’t at least one of these guys supposed to be in jail by now?

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btw, still not seeing Trump’s grandkid’s Lego White House anywhere. It sure isn’t on the mantle.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:48:43am

boston.com

A former longtime pastor for a Lynn parish, who had been accused in 2012 of sexually abusing a child, has been found guilty by a Roman Catholic judicial court and sentenced to “a life of Prayer and Penance,” the Archdiocese of Boston announced in a statement Thursday.

Rev. James Gaudreau, former pastor of St. Joseph Parish, has been banned from exercising “any public ministry” or celebrating public mass, the archdiocese said.

“He may not provide spiritual direction, may not wear clerical attire and cannot function in any manner as a priest,” the statement read. “He is to live in contemplation of his sins and pray for all of those affected by his conduct.”

(more)

The district attorney declined to press charges against the priest after the archdiocese reported it to the police.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:50:54am

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

This. I fear TG will be a much bigger spreader event than Halloween.

It would have to be. Halloween involves repeated brief interactions with children who remain outside, while everyone theoretically can be appropriately masked. Thanksgiving involves long conversations and extended dining inside, where everyone is likely to remain maskless.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:51:59am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They literally sentenced that guy to “Thoughts and Prayers”.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:52:54am

Baja Alabama is under Sally’s rain bands now. our area won’t get much wind (unless tornados) but will get 4” or more.

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Jay C  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:55:14am

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

boston.com

A former longtime pastor for a Lynn parish, who had been accused in 2012 of sexually abusing a child, has been found guilty by a Roman Catholic judicial court and sentenced to “a life of Prayer and Penance,” the Archdiocese of Boston announced in a statement Thursday.

Rev. James Gaudreau, former pastor of St. Joseph Parish, has been banned from exercising “any public ministry” or celebrating public mass, the archdiocese said.

“He may not provide spiritual direction, may not wear clerical attire and cannot function in any manner as a priest,” the statement read. “He is to live in contemplation of his sins and pray for all of those affected by his conduct.”

(more)

The district attorney declined to press charges against the priest after the archdiocese reported it to the police.

Wow - real tough penalties there for child sex-abuse: basically, “turn in your collar and get lost”?
And what’s to stop Fr. Rev. Mr. Gaudreau from simply moving to another state and opening a day-care center?*

*OK, exaggeration. Slightly. I hope.

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makeitstop  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:56:07am

The War on Thanksgiving has already been won in NYC - it will be a ‘television-only experience’ this year.

I’ve been wondering for a while now what the hell they’re going to do with New Year’s Eve…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:56:10am

re: #210 Eclectic Cyborg

They literally sentenced this guy to “Thoughts and Prayers”

That’s still more than the state did.

Via Protestia:

California Megachurch Shuts Down Indoor Service after Accruing over $110,000 in Fines in two Weeks (sixteen hours ago):

North Valley Baptist Church in Santa Clara, California, engaged in a battle of the wills and resources between themselves and the Santa Clara County, has decided to stop hosting “illegal” indoor services after amassing over $110,000 in fines and ultimately being threatened with an injunction - the same sort of injunction for which Pastor John MacArthur at Grace Community Church has defied and is facing further fines and jail time.

The 3000 member church, ordered to pay $112,750 in fines for defying the local public health order over a period of only a few weeks, (such as $52,750 in a nine-day period), took their Wednesday and Sunday evening service outside after being unable to sustain the heavy burden imposed on them, particularly as the fines began to be escalated to $50,000 per WEEK.

(more)

He first argued they had no right to suspend their freedom of assembly, then pleaded with them to relieve the fines, then caved and went to outdoor services with people remaining in their cars.

The $112,750 in tithing money which would have gone to the church will now be sent to the city.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:01:47am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I need a new laptop, but Wal*mart is right out.

I’ll get a new one at the same computer shop in Scottsbluff I bought my HP at.

I just picked up one of the HP Envy x360 notebooks from Costco.
These are the new models with the AMD Ryzen 4000 series CPU - dual mode notebook/tablet for under $800 that’s been getting rave reviews. There’s higher-end notebooks out there, but for what I’m using it for it ticks all the needed checkboxes and so far have no complaints at all.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:03:18am

re: #212 Jay C

Wow - real tough penalties there for child sex-abuse: basically, “turn in your collar and get lost”?
And what’s to stop Fr. Rev. Mr. Gaudreau from simply moving to another state and opening a day-care center?*

*OK, exaggeration. Slightly. I hope.

The archbishop narc’ed him and is laying more on him than the state did.

(O’Malley has been sent to clean up Boston and other abuse failures, and has 0 tolerance. He was my HS and college barracks-mate at the seminary.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:04:16am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The one comment on the article is conservaderp and religioderp:

Thousands of deluded and often feral individuals are coddled and protected by the state as they take to the streets to riot, destroy, loot, and beat/kill innocents over serial felons getting themselves killed while resisting arrest, yet the state brings their mighty weight and wrath against God-fearing people worshipping Almighty God. What country is this?

a) You mean the white supremacists.
b) Resisting arrest does not carry the death penalty by Judge Dredd cops.
c) If your god can only be worshipped in megachurches it’s a pretty puny god.
d) A country that neither permits religious people to sacrifice virgins on altars nor permits feral Christians from sacrificing their neighbours or each other.

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:06:28am

re: #216 Decatur Deb

The archbishop is laying more on him than the state did.

That bar is way too low. There needs to be a public, legal record.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:07:18am

re: #215 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

I just picked up one of the HP Envy x360 notebooks from Costco.
These are the new models with the AMD Ryzen 4000 series CPU - dual mode notebook/tablet for under $800 that’s been getting rave reviews. There’s higher-end notebooks out there, but for what I’m using it for it ticks all the needed checkboxes and so far have no complaints at all.

I still don’t like HP, and after what I saw in a desktop PC from them with custom motherboards and a custom power supply, it didn’t really change my mind. For laptops, their custom software annoys me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:07:36am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We already knew they didn’t really buy that whole “congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of a religion” but now they’re all “fuck freedom of the press and freedom of expression” too.

I guess it was only a matter time until they just ditched that whole Amendment entirely.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:08:09am

re: #218 wrenchwench

That bar is way too low. There needs to be a public, legal record.

Talk to the prosecutor. The church authorities turned him in.

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:09:22am

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Talk to the prosecutor. The church authorities turned him in.

I’m pissed at patriarchy. The church is just the biggest tool in the box.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:10:02am

Minot, ND flew a Pride flag at city hall. It didn’t go well in the next council meeting with the citizenry, who came to protest the flag and read Bible verses.

That didn’t sit well with one city alderwoman during the meeting (flame on, 2:05)

Alderwoman Carrie Evans responds to those against flying the LGBTQ flag

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:11:08am

re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg

It was a simpler time…

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Hey, how did you get a picture of my desktop?!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:12:30am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:12:46am

re: #222 wrenchwench

I’m pissed at patriarchy. The church is just the biggest tool in the box.

Is it the patri or the archy that’s the problem?

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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:14:22am

re: #226 Decatur Deb

Is it the patri or the archy that’s the problem?

My sociology degree is only a BA. That’s a PhD question. ‘Both’ works for me.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:14:36am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s still more than the state did.

Via Protestia:

California Megachurch Shuts Down Indoor Service after Accruing over $110,000 in Fines in two Weeks (sixteen hours ago):

(more)

He first argued they had no right to suspend their freedom of assembly, then pleaded with them to relieve the fines, then caved and went to outdoor services with people remaining in their cars.

The $112,750 in tithing money which would have gone to the church will now be sent to the city.

Not to worry, I’m sure there’s plenty of sheep in the flock and fellow travelers who will happily produce that money (if not double it) to bail the pulpit pimps out. And one can also be sure they’re getting plenty of others who are “suggesting” that the church tell the county to fuck off.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:14:55am

re: #225 Charles Johnson

Encouraging. Still got to keep the pedal to the metal.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:15:18am

re: #225 Charles Johnson

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Low turnout is what they’re definitely shooting for, but it’s good to see even in that scenario they won’t be able to close the gap.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:16:08am

re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg

It was a simpler time…

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Minesweeper is still available for Windows 10 from the Microsoft Store (free).

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William Lewis  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:17:17am

re: #219 Belafon

I still don’t like HP, and after what I saw in a desktop PC from them with custom motherboards and a custom power supply, it didn’t really change my mind. For laptops, their custom software annoys me.

I stopped liking HP after having to use HP-UX (aka HP-SUX) Horrifically bad version of Unix. A more recent PC didn’t help.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:17:45am
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EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:17:56am

re: #232 William Lewis

I stopped liking HP after having to use HP-UX (aka HP-SUX) Horrifically bad version of Unix. A more recent PC didn’t help.

Pronounced H-pukes.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:19:43am

re: #203 sagehen

oh, honey.

Costumes. Candy.

If it were August, February, even July 3rd it would still matter to me.

No disrespect to costumes or candy

I only meant as far as them co-opting “they’re stealing our holiday ” part

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:19:48am

re: #233 Charles Johnson

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Seriously I get 2016 trauma but have some optimism too.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:19:51am

Wow. This is big.

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mmmirele  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:22:48am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Teukka  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:24:10am

re: #237 Charles Johnson

Wow. This is big.

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DAYUM… (sp?)

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:24:35am
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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:25:17am

re: #209 Hecuba’s daughter

It would have to be. Halloween involves repeated brief interactions with children who remain outside, while everyone theoretically can be appropriately masked. Thanksgiving involves long conversations and extended dining inside, where everyone is likely to remain maskless.

Halloween involves people **voluntarily** wearing masks, so whats the big deal?

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:28:01am

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That old man deserves a punch. Several.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:28:37am

re: #232 William Lewis

I stopped liking HP after having to use HP-UX (aka HP-SUX) Horrifically bad version of Unix. A more recent PC didn’t help.

Om my God, that was bad! I had HP workstations.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:28:45am

re: #238 mmmirele

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stpaulbear  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:29:20am

re: #186 danarchy

Their ratings are higher than ever so I doubt it. Paradoxically, I wouldn’t be surprised if msnbc took a ratings hit if Biden wins.

I’ll stop watching Morning Joe if Biden wins. I’ll keep checking in with the evening lineup, although I’m a Never-Todder.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:29:33am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s still more than the state did.

Via Protestia:

California Megachurch Shuts Down Indoor Service after Accruing over $110,000 in Fines in two Weeks (sixteen hours ago):

(more)

He first argued they had no right to suspend their freedom of assembly, then pleaded with them to relieve the fines, then caved and went to outdoor services with people remaining in their cars.

The $112,750 in tithing money which would have gone to the church will now be sent to the city.

Civil disobedience has consequences

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:29:55am

re: #240 The Pie Overlord!

Image… is everything.

Facts don’t matter.

We have the Andre Aggassi presidency. And that’s apologies to Aggassi, who used that as part of a Canon photography ad campaign for years.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:30:34am

re: #242 Sherlock Hound

That old man deserves a punch. Several.

He got a good verbal punch. His smarmy “angry” comment comes right from the same place where privileged people think equality equals oppression.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:30:44am

re: #240 The Pie Overlord!

No wonder Trump loves this guy.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:31:26am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Kinda reminds me of Gary Glitter.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:31:59am

re: #246 dangerman

And if you’re going to use civil disobedience, you’re going to take the punishment willingly and lovingly. No complaints. But the tithers should have some sharp words for their pastor for wasting their contributions.

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William Lewis  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:32:10am

re: #243 BlueSpotinAL

Om my God, that was bad! I had HP workstations.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:33:35am

re: #241 dangerman

Halloween involves people **voluntarily** wearing masks, so whats the big deal?

Sudden involuntary shudder remembering wearing Casper the Friendly Ghost plastic mask that smelled like rotten eggs by the end of the night….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:34:28am

re: #244 The Pie Overlord!

Foetuses are not arguably babies. Babies are already born.

I love the Lying for Jesus going on in that thread.

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William Lewis  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:36:55am

re: #243 BlueSpotinAL

Om my God, that was bad! I had HP workstations.

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I was coming from SunOS/Solaris so it was especially harsh.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:39:04am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Foetuses are not arguably babies. Babies are already born.

I love the Lying for Jesus going on in that thread.

It’s not lava until it comes out of the ground. It’s not a baby until it’s born.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:42:59am

I’m going to hit the rack.

Stay safe down south … the NHC is giving the storm another full day before it comes ashore. That’s going to be a lot of rain.

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makeitstop  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:45:17am

re: #225 Charles Johnson

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But But But TEH LATINOEZ!!!11

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:49:09am
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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:49:23am

re: #251 Sherlock Hound

And if you’re going to use civil disobedience, you’re going to take the punishment willingly and lovingly. No complaints. But the tithers should have some sharp words for their pastor for wasting their contributions.

As shoulld have much of the NRA

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retired cynic  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:49:31am

re: #256 Belafon

It’s not lava until it comes out of the ground. It’s not a baby until it’s born.

I am certainly pro-choice, and have never not been. But around here, when women I know were pregnant (and I never was, unfortunately), their babies were their babies at least by the time they were “showing.” Certainly by the time they were waddling! So it is semantics, but common usage is, if you are wanting that child, it is your baby.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:50:46am

re: #254 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Foetuses are not arguably babies. Babies are already born.

I love the Lying for Jesus going on in that thread.

First time I laughed real well at Twitter

“It’s called birth”…

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Jay C  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:57:19am

re: #258 makeitstop

But But But TEH LATINOEZ!!!11

This.
Yeah, it’s Florida - and still (IMHO) a persistent national shame that every fucking Presidential election we hold in this country still seems to have to come down to who carries this one fucking state - but here we are. And yes, the “Latino” vote is going to be an important swing constituency. Though unfortunately, our “MSM” still seems obsessed with reducing said vote to the obsessive revanchism of the “Cuban Exile” demographic - still pissed at John Kennedy over the Bay Of Pigs, and still (seemingly) wielding outsize political influence in The Sunshine State.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:59:55am

re: #261 retired cynic

I am certainly pro-choice, and have never not been. But around here, when women I know were pregnant (and I never was, unfortunately), their babies were their babies at least by the time they were “showing.” Certainly by the time they were waddling! So it is semantics, but common usage is, if you are wanting that child, it is your baby.

I bet they’d give you a lively discussion about the difference between clips and magazines.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:00:18am

re: #261 retired cynic

I am certainly pro-choice, and have never not been. But around here, when women I know were pregnant (and I never was, unfortunately), their babies were their babies at least by the time they were “showing.” Certainly by the time they were waddling! So it is semantics, but common usage is, if you are wanting that child, it is your baby.

Agree 100%. We were unable to have children but among those women I know, from the time that they realize they are pregnant, they consider it their baby, when the child is wanted.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:00:40am

re: #261 retired cynic

I am certainly pro-choice, and have never not been. But around here, when women I know were pregnant (and I never was, unfortunately), their babies were their babies at least by the time they were “showing.” Certainly by the time they were waddling! So it is semantics, but common usage is, if you are wanting that child, it is your baby.

a person can call it anything they like
we all do that
and it’s fine
a kind of metaphor everyone understands what everybody means

public policy debate is different
they are co-opting the word ‘baby’ because of the emotional trigger
they use it medically to mean something it is not
in order to sway opinion to create legislation

it is in this context that a zygote is not a ‘baby’
neither is an embryo, fetus, etc

they also do it with ‘pre-born’, to morph the meaning of ‘born’

it’s all disingenuous intended to make the arguments seem scientific instead of the religious ones they are

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:06:16am

Trump sics Barr and the DOJ on Bolton…

(Via NYT) WASHINGTON — The Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into whether President Trump’s former national security adviser John R. Bolton unlawfully disclosed classified information when he published a memoir this summer, a case that the department opened after it failed to stop the book’s publication this summer, according to three people familiar with the matter.

The department has convened a grand jury, which issued a subpoena for communications records from Simon & Schuster, the publisher of Mr. Bolton’s memoir, “The Room Where It Happened.” In the book, Mr. Bolton delivered a highly unflattering account of his 17 months working in the Trump administration.

The investigation is a significant escalation in the fraught publication of the book. The Trump administration had sought to stop its publication, accusing Mr. Bolton in a lawsuit of moving forward with publication without receiving final notice that a prepublication review to scrub out classified information was complete. The director of national intelligence referred the matter to the Justice Department last month, two of the people said. John Demers, the head of the department’s national security division, then opened the criminal investigation, according to a person briefed on the case.

Mr. Bolton has denied that he published classified information. Representatives for the Justice Department, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the National Security Council declined to comment.

Mr. Bolton’s account of his time working for Mr. Trump and his efforts to get the book published set off a furor. He confirmed elements of the Ukraine scheme that prompted impeachment, wrote that the president was willing to intervene in criminal investigations to curry favor with foreign dictators and said he sought China’s help in winning re-election.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:08:27am

re: #267 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump sics Barr and the DOJ on Bolton…

(Via NYT) WASHINGTON — The Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into whether President Trump’s former national security adviser John R. Bolton unlawfully disclosed classified information when he published a memoir this summer, a case that the department opened after it failed to stop the book’s publication this summer, according to three people familiar with the matter.

The department has convened a grand jury, which issued a subpoena for communications records from Simon & Schuster, the publisher of Mr. Bolton’s memoir, “The Room Where It Happened.” In the book, Mr. Bolton delivered a highly unflattering account of his 17 months working in the Trump administration.

The investigation is a significant escalation in the fraught publication of the book. The Trump administration had sought to stop its publication, accusing Mr. Bolton in a lawsuit of moving forward with publication without receiving final notice that a prepublication review to scrub out classified information was complete. The director of national intelligence referred the matter to the Justice Department last month, two of the people said. John Demers, the head of the department’s national security division, then opened the criminal investigation, according to a person briefed on the case.

Mr. Bolton has denied that he published classified information. Representatives for the Justice Department, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the National Security Council declined to comment.

Mr. Bolton’s account of his time working for Mr. Trump and his efforts to get the book published set off a furor. He confirmed elements of the Ukraine scheme that prompted impeachment, wrote that the president was willing to intervene in criminal investigations to curry favor with foreign dictators and said he sought China’s help in winning re-election.

Last I checked, the courts were pretty clear that you can’t classify info because it is embarrassing to the sitting president.

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A Cranky One  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:09:02am

re: #264 Belafon

I bet they’d give you a lively discussion about the difference between clips and magazines.

Clips are what the barber does. Magazines are what you read while waiting.

Right?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:10:58am

re: #269 A Cranky One

Clips are what the barber does. Magazines are what you read while waiting.

Right?

And a round is when you buy drinks for your friends at the bar.

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:11:29am

re: #268 Targetpractice

Last I checked, the courts were pretty clear that you can’t classify info because it is embarrassing to the sitting president.

Especially since the law says exactly that.

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:12:40am

re: #267 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump’s again trying to get the DOJ to play personal lawyer for Trump. Bolton gets to spend his money defending against this suit. Fuck Bolton and FT too. Bolton had ability to woman up and testify under oath as to Trump’s lack of character and fitness and criminal wrongdoing, and refused to do so. He wrote a book instead.

Fuck him. Let him spend every dime he was hoping to make on the book defending its publication instead.

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:13:43am

re: #272 lawhawk

Trump’s again trying to get the DOJ to play personal lawyer for Trump. Bolton gets to spend his money defending against this suit. Fuck Bolton and FT too. Bolton had ability to woman up and testify under oath as to Trump’s lack of character and fitness and criminal wrongdoing, and refused to do so. He wrote a book instead.

Fuck him. Let him spend every dime he was hoping to make on the book defending its publication instead.

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makeitstop  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:13:53am

re: #267 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump sics Barr and the DOJ on Bolton…

It’s a totally bullshit investigation, for sure. But I’m having a really hard time mustering any sympathy for Bolton.

If he’d testified at the impeachment hearings, he may have brought Trump down. But he thought he could thread the needle and cash in on the book.

Now? His book sales were (deservedly) destroyed, and now Trump is gonna roast him.

It’s a shame. A damned shame. ////

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:14:53am
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wrenchwench  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:15:44am

re: #272 lawhawk

woman up

Blasey Ford updings you.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:17:04am

re: #275 lawhawk

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Now they like the War on Poverty?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:17:46am

re: #277 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Now they like the War on Poverty?

no, they just wanna be able to claim that they topped it

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Targetpractice  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:19:16am

re: #275 lawhawk

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6.6 Million Americans were lifted out of poverty in the first 3 years of the Trump administration — the most EVER!

[Citation Needed]

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lawhawk  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:19:37am
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Mike Lamb  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:20:13am

re: #275 lawhawk

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Let’s leave COVID out of it for a second…show your work. What policies enacted by the Trump admin contributed to “lifting” those people out of poverty? How many of those folks were in blue states that have better local safety nets?

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:21:33am

re: #252 William Lewis

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:25:29am

re: #274 makeitstop

It’s a totally bullshit investigation, for sure. But I’m having a really hard time mustering any sympathy for Bolton.

If he’d testified at the impeachment hearings, he may have brought Trump down. But he thought he could thread the needle and cash in on the book.

Now? His book sales were (deservedly) destroyed, and now Trump is gonna roast him.

It’s a shame. A damned shame. ////

His testimony would not have brought Trump down. Maybe it would have persuaded Lisa and Susan to vote against him — but nah… Certainly not for Ukraine, and Ukraine was all the Democrats had. There wasn’t enough time to do a Kenneth Starr and investigate a whole slew of other improprieties and crimes, especially since the House had no way to get more information on a timely basis due to the WH stonewalling all requests and most witnesses.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:31:16am

re: #271 Belafon

Especially since the law says exactly that.

while this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is true

note in the last 4 years how many lawsuits trump et al filed arguing whether the plain language of the law said what we all know it said

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:32:32am

re: #272 lawhawk

Trump’s again trying to get the DOJ to play personal lawyer for Trump. Bolton gets to spend his money defending against this suit. Fuck Bolton and FT too. Bolton had ability to woman up and testify under oath as to Trump’s lack of character and fitness and criminal wrongdoing, and refused to do so. He wrote a book instead.

Fuck him. Let him spend every dime he was hoping to make on the book defending its publication instead.

it’s part of the publication deal.
no doubt in my mind he and S&S discussed this possibility likelihood before they went ahead.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:34:26am

re: #275 lawhawk

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politico:

25 years wiped out in 25 weeks

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retired cynic  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:37:54am

re: #264 Belafon

I bet they’d give you a lively discussion about the difference between clips and magazines.

Not the women I’m talking about; sorry.

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dangerman  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:38:01am

re: #275 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

further, here’s the likely reason why. Social Programs:

Unlike the official poverty measure, the SPM (Supplemental Poverty Measure) counts income from non-cash programs such as:

- Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly known as the Food Stamp Program)
- rental assistance
- refundable tax credits for low- and moderate-income families — the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and Child Tax Credit
- Social Security
- unemployment insurance

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William Lewis  Sep 15, 2020 • 12:03:53pm

re: #282 BlueSpotinAL

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