Trevor Noah: Trump Denies the Science of Climate Change as Scientists Discover Signs of Life on Venus

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Scientists discover signs of life on Venus, this year’s hurricanes blow through the alphabet, Trump finds a quick fix for climate change, and Steve Doocy Fox-and-Friend-zones the president on air. #DailyShow #TrevorNoah #ClimateChange

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:26:57pm

The discovery of phosphine in the “habitable zone” of Venus is big news indeed; however, let’s see if this is confirmed using the scientific method.

Granted, it’s microbial life - but even if its, it’s life. And that’s what counts. It means that life elsewhere in the universe is no longer in the realm of science fiction.

And fuck Trump.

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jaunte  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:28:27pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:29:32pm

re: #1 Dr Lizardo

Personally I think people are running with the sensationalistic headlines and not reading the actual paper.

The reason the authors raised the possibility of a life origin is that they could not find a chemical reaction that could occur in the atmosphere of Venus, using only non-living pathways.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:30:28pm

To be even more clear, I doubt the phosphine is from a living organism on Venus.

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retired cynic  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:31:38pm

re: #4 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

spoilsport //

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:33:02pm

As I noted downstairs, in local politics Car Thief is running for the seat once held by the criminal Hunter the Lesser. The Democratic candidate has good twitter game, but that district is still home of the stodgy religious right who pretty much just watch Fox News.

Still, Car Thief sounds like he’s trying to score some points with Biden if he becomes President and Car Thief makes it back into Congress:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:39:09pm

Fucking hell.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:40:53pm
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retired cynic  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:42:44pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

The CDC???

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:46:11pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:47:19pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:53:08pm
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jaunte  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:53:20pm

re: #10 Dread Pirate Ron

“Fireside chat” = no hard questions.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:55:59pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:59:10pm

re: #14 Ace Rothstein

“Why are they letting this uppity black woman ask me questions?”

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2020 • 8:59:39pm
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Jay C  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:09:16pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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I dunno, Charles: on the one hand, two Arab countries (however small or distant) normalizing relations with Israel is not a trivial matter: even if there is almost certainly more to It than the over-hyped “peace deal” the Trump gang is loudly boasting about - the “peace” part is pretty self-ironic given that arms sales seem to be an inescapable part of the deal. I’m sure Netanyahu (and a lot of his Government) are pissed off about those jet deals, but it’s probably a reasonable (or at least livable) concession for them. As long as the prospects of those planes being used to attack Israel Is minimal….

But yeah, it’s a “Trump project”, so suspicion is properly called for.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:09:52pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Wonder if Bibi is finally regretting his devil’s bargain with the GOP and Trump. Perhaps he is coming to realize that his disdain for Obama has led him and Israel down the wrong path. It would be interesting to see if some of the Trump fanatics among the American Jewish community start switching their loyalty, if the word comes down that these pacts are detrimental to Israel’s security.

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jaunte  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:10:36pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:13:44pm

Important context/perspective thread here:

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gwangung  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:15:32pm

re: #20 Interesting Times

You know what that says to me?

POUR IT ON.

Bury the bastard.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:16:37pm

re: #20 Interesting Times

Important context/perspective thread here:

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People going but 2016 need to realize this. Plus if you’re worried about altering results, they had the opportunity to do that in the midterms. We should be vigilant for that but I think the anti Trump vote is going to be too much to interfere with.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:17:27pm

re: #21 gwangung

You know what that says to me?

POUR IT ON.

Bury the bastard.

Yep. Let’s make this an exclamation point victory. Give Joe and the new Congress a mandate.

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Jay C  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:21:20pm

re: #18 Hecuba’s daughter

Wonder if Bibi is finally regretting his devil’s bargain with the GOP and Trump. Perhaps he is coming to realize that his disdain for Obama has led him and Israel down the wrong path. It would be interesting to see if some of the Trump fanatics among the American Jewish community start switching their loyalty, if the word comes down that these pacts are detrimental to Israel’s security.

I tend to doubt it: Bibi may be a sleaze and a crook, but he’s not stupid: he knows he (and Israel) still hold the upper hand in most dealings with US. Yeah, relationships with a Biden Administration might be slightly frostier - but as long as there is still a base of “Christian Zionists” in the GOP willing to start agitating for “pro-Israel” policies - and as long as the persistent Conventional Wisdom that even the most minor of criticisms of Israel, its Government or its policies is tantamount to enabling the Holocaust is still operative (and it will be), Netanyahu will still be just fine.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:23:05pm

Back later - off to work.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:23:10pm

true

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Amory Blaine  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:24:00pm

Kamala Harris Pledged a Joe Biden Administration Would Decriminalize Marijuana

Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris said, if elected, she and presidential nominee Joe Biden would plan to decriminalize the use of marijuana. Harris outlined the proposal’s broad strokes during a virtual roundtable she hosted with ABC through Facebook Live on September 14.

“Under a Biden-Harris administration, we will decriminalize the use of marijuana and automatically expunge all marijuana-use convictions, and end incarceration for drug use alone,” Harris said. “This is no time … for half-steppin’, this is no time for incrementalism. We need to deal with the system, and there needs to be significant change in the design of the system.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:25:39pm

re: #27 Amory Blaine

Kamala Harris Pledged a Joe Biden Administration Would Decriminalize Marijuana

This is an issue I’m glad to see Biden has evolved on. We recently decriminalized here.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:27:52pm

re: #26 I Would Prefer Not To

I thought that “family” was taking a break from social media.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:34:39pm

re: #24 Jay C

I tend to doubt it: Bibi may be a sleaze and a crook, but he’s not stupid: he knows he (and Israel) still hold the upper hand in most dealings with US. Yeah, relationships with a Biden Administration might be slightly frostier - but as long as there is still a base of “Christian Zionists” in the GOP willing to start agitating for “pro-Israel” policies - and as long as the persistent Conventional Wisdom that even the most minor of criticisms of Israel, its Government or its policies is tantamount to enabling the Holocaust is still operative (and it will be), Netanyahu will still be just fine.

My comment was too ambiguous — I didn’t mean switching loyalty from Bibi — that they will never do, but if they feel that Bibi is displeased with Trump and is himself feeling that the alternative is better, maybe they too will decide that Biden is the preferable choice.

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piratedan  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:35:39pm

re: #20 Interesting Times

not many people are talking about it because the MSM is so invested in creating and maintaining a horse race narrative because it drives clicks. I think that in my family circle and work circle and my friends circle… all the Trump people are more or less silent, working on the fringes of Blue Lives Matter and attempts of whataboutism….

For a guy who has been in charge the last 3.5 years, you’d think that they’d be touting his accomplishments but when those strawmen are easily disposed of, all they have is the fact that as strongly as they’ve been driven to hate us they’re now getting equal hate in return. They’ve embraced that racism and that sense of righteousness and acceptance has been fleeting as the whirlwind that they have reaped has been like the bombing of Pearl Harbor… Progressives and Centrists and even a few mild mannered Conservatives are pissed off and excuse me, that is PISSED OFF, and are ready to crawl over broken glass with an equivalent passion to end this bullshit.

They said that they wanted someone who “would shake things up”, what they didn’t realize is that by getting shook up it meant that they would financially assaulted and turned upside-down and robbed of their pocket change and they should just be happy because they hated all of the same people. All for the benefit of some casual cruelty and the rich people getting richer and them being fed a steady diet of lies.

I think we’re going to kick his ass and I think we’re going to kick his ass BIGLY, I think we’re going to take Florida, Iowa, Texas, Ohio and Alaska and come damn close in Kansas. We’re going to take 6+ seats in the Senate and we’re gonna send another 20+ GOP Congressmen home.

Then we’re going to prosecute the ever lovin shit out of all of these criminals as we uncover in depth and detail all of the hateful cruel shit that they did in the name of our country. When we get that shit done, I would be happy to turn over the international cabal that has been doing shit internationally and let The Hague have them and do more for international relationships at that point by showing that the best way to make amends is to simply come clean and let our criminals get their day in yet another court of law.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:41:23pm

“But Black Lives Matter are the ones who are endangering the public.”

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Belafon  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:43:23pm

re: #32 DodgerFan1988

Floridummies

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:46:21pm

re: #31 piratedan

…..
I think we’re going to kick his ass and I think we’re going to kick his ass BIGLY, I think we’re going to take Florida, Iowa, Texas, Ohio and Alaska and come damn close in Kansas. We’re going to take 6+ seats in the Senate and we’re gonna send another 20+ GOP Congressmen home.

Then we’re going to prosecute the ever lovin shit out of all of these criminals as we uncover in depth and detail all of the hateful cruel shit that they did in the name of our country. When we get that shit done, I would be happy to turn over the international cabal that has been doing shit internationally and let The Hague have them and do more for international relationships at that point by showing that the best way to make amends is to simply come clean and let our criminals get their day in yet another court of law.

May those wishes come to pass. That will allow the healing to begin.

As much joy as a prosecution of this entire criminal cabal would bring into our lives, I suspect that realpolitik will hold sway and may limit justifiable retribution. Of course, if the Durham report recommends prosecution of anyone in the Obama administration, the gloves should come off.

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:48:00pm

This really chaps my ass.

I’m a supervisor in the food & beverage department at a small ski area. I’m lucky in that I get paid $20/hr plus tips, management can afford to pay me. Most people with the same job I have aren’t so lucky. That shit is *work* when it’s busy, everyone who does it deserves a living wage.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 9:55:49pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

This really chaps my ass.

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I’m a supervisor in the food & beverage department at a small ski area. I’m lucky in that I get paid $20/hr plus tips, management can afford to pay me. Most people with the same job I have aren’t so lucky. That shit is *work* when it’s busy, everyone who does it deserves a living wage.

I really hate the condescending attitude right wingers have to working people and then they project it on to their enemies.

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William Lewis  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:00:12pm

re: #36 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I really hate the condescending attitude right wingers have to working people and then they project it on to their enemies.

That’s why they have to keep the proletariat here in America believing the big lie that any/every one can succeed. It’s the only thing that keeps them from having their haircut from Mdm. Guillotine.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:06:08pm

re: #37 William Lewis

That’s why they have to keep the proletariat here in America believing the big lie that any/every one can succeed. It’s the only thing that keeps them from having their haircut from Mdm. Guillotine.

Yep it’s a class variant of what LBJ said about race, it’s easy to shit on the lowest people in society.

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EPR-radar  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:14:02pm

re: #38 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yep it’s a class variant of what LBJ said about race, it’s easy to shit on the lowest people in society.

Meanwhile the homeless are kept in a visible state of deprivation and desperation to ‘encourage’ the lowest rungs of the work force to stay at their miserable jobs.

That horrible ‘bum fights’ business a few years back where entitled douchebags got homeless people to fight each other for pittances was more honest than anything you’ll get from a Republican (or from some Democrats, for that matter).

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:20:57pm

Looks like people in the “militia” that was in Kenosha are turning on Rittenhouse…

Daily Kos Diary

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:44:58pm

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

Fucking hell.

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So, Trump is retweeting Gateway Pundit. Of note:

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:47:31pm

re: #27 Amory Blaine

Kamala Harris Pledged a Joe Biden Administration Would Decriminalize Marijuana

Excellent! We’ll have more than enough prison space for GOP crooks and traitors.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:54:41pm

I hope the falsely accused man sue Ian Miles Cheong for making his life a living hell.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 15, 2020 • 10:56:30pm

re: #41 Ace-o-aces

So, Trump is retweeting Gateway Pundit. Of note:

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That’s straight from the colonial authorities’ portrayal of the Mau-Mau in 1950s Kenya.

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mmmirele  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:18:44pm

re: #37 William Lewis

That’s why they have to keep the proletariat here in America believing the big lie that any/every one can succeed. It’s the only thing that keeps them from having their haircut from Mdm. Guillotine.

Yeah, my sister once told me that she thought FDR was the worst thing to happen to America. I tartly told her that the wealthy (meaning her then-living mother-in-law and sis knew who I meant) in this country ought to be down on their knees worshiping FDR for saving their bacon during the Great Depression. And no, I’m definitely not in favor of a revolution. But I am realistic. People get tired of being overtaxed and downtrodden and tend to want to haul out the tumbrels and guillotines after a while. As we know from the various “revolutions” over the last 230+ years, a lot of people get killed and even more are hurt in the process.

There is something to be said for incrementalism and a “Quiet Revolution” (e.g., Quebec’s Révolution tranquille in the 1960s, moving from a heavily church-influenced province separated from the rest of Canada to better integrated with Canada and participating in more of Canada’s federal programs, on top of an enormous number of social changes at the same time). I’d rather have that, than whatever the hell the Bernie stans are pushing. And I think Joe Biden is able to do that—look at how he pushed Obama on same-sex marriage. That dude is *smart*.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:19:43pm

re: #43 DodgerFan1988

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I hope the falsely accused man sue Ian Miles Cheong for making his life a living hell.

When can him and Andy Ngo stop being honorary Aryans? It’s past time for the long knives to come out, when their fellow Nazis remember to use the correct racial slurs to refer to Asians.

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:26:22pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:27:30pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

OP set her account to private. She got ratio’d like you read about.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:34:30pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:44:05pm

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teleskiguy  Sep 15, 2020 • 11:49:31pm

Yikes.

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2020 • 12:16:44am

Chairlift construction.

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Ming5000  Sep 16, 2020 • 12:23:28am

The Debate! is coming up. I am nervous. I heard David Axlerod discuss debate prep. I sure hope team Biden prepares for Trump’s firehose lying.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 12:28:05am

re: #2 jaunte

The thing about herd immunity is that it might not even work, he might kill 6 million people just to find out that immunity only lasts a few months before you can be reinfected, rolling the mortality dice all over again. Then the deaths would just go on and on and on.

and we are learning that this is not “just a flu”, it can leave lasting or even permanent damage in some cases

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 12:35:10am

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

That’s straight from the colonial authorities’ portrayal of the Mau-Mau in 1950s Kenya.

This is the picture they are painting of Biden’s America: defunded police and armed Mau-Mau rape gangs out prowling our helpless, disarmed white neighborhoods.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 16, 2020 • 12:46:49am

Sally is slowly coming ashore in Baja ‘Bama. Hope Decatur Deb and everyone else there are ok. Flooding is going to be widespread:

Image: radarloop.gif

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 16, 2020 • 12:48:50am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2020 • 1:23:56am

I ran my knee into the edge of a heavy steel patio chair in the dark. I’ve never seen the top of a tibia swell so big so fast. Have it iced now.

/ouch

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 1:41:20am

re: #58 Dread Pirate Ron

I ran my knee into the edge of a heavy steel patio chair in the dark. I’ve never seen the top of a tibia swell so big so fast. Have it iced now.

/ouch

tibia or not tibia, that is the question

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 16, 2020 • 1:44:26am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 1:46:37am

re: #60 Ace-o-aces

The same people who want you to believe Donald Trump is a genius playing 5D chess also tell you he got punked by G Stephanopoulos.

Remember him stating that if Nancy Pelosi could get tricked by a salon owner, then who else would be able to pull one over on her?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:15:35am

It is getting smaller with ice..

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:16:44am

The embarrassment continues.

Trump Gives Netanyahu Fake ‘Key To White House’ To Celebrate Fake Peace Deal. So That’s On Brand! (Wonkette, with video and snark)

The “Key to the White House” is not a thing. Like “Michigan Man of the Year” is not a thing.

It was cute when Netanyahu responded to Trump that “You have the key to the heart of the Jewish people,” considering how most American Jews hate Trump’s ass with the fire of a thousand suns.

Questions:

1. No really, that is not a real award, just like the coveted “Bay of Pigs” award given by all the Cuban veterans in Florida to Donald Trump all the time is not an award, just like the “Michigan Man of the Year” is not an award. Yes, we know we said we had questions, but sometimes we just have answers.

2. What sadass White House staffer had to, for their job OMG how embarrassing, rig up that fake award for Donald Trump to give Benjamin Netanyahu? Was a trip to Hobby Lobby involved? Glue? Glitter? Is it … is it papier-mâché? Did Ivanka’s children make this, for Grandpa to give his friend?

3. Or perhaps a better question: Where did this key REALLY come from? Mary Trump told us about her trashball uncle’s penchant for regifting. Whose key is this? Have you lost a large gold key? If so, the unelected president of the United States just gave it to the prime minister of Israel.

(more, including more questions)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:20:09am

re: #62 Dread Pirate Ron

It is getting smaller with ice..

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Ouch. My leg hurts to look at it.

You could have shot your lawn chair in self-defence in several states if it is black.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:21:50am

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ouch. My leg hurts to look at it.

You could have shot your lawn chair in self-defence in several states if it is black.

I grew out of punishing furniture years ago.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:24:21am

re: #65 Dread Pirate Ron

I grew out of punishing furniture years ago.

We have furniture for that. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:27:42am

If we could work this here:

Anti-Maskers Ordered to Dig Graves for COVID-19 Victims in Indonesia (Newsweek)

Eight men who refused to wear face masks in public have been ordered to dig graves for COVID-19 victims as a punishment in Indonesia.

The province of East Java is cracking down on the wearing of face masks in a bid to stem the rise in coronavirus cases.

Local media reports that the punishment was meted out in the Cerme district where its head, Suyono, hoped that digging graves would act as a deterrent to anyone else considering flouting the face mask rule.

(more)

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:29:49am
President Donald Trump faced some serious questions from voters at ABC News’ town hall Tuesday night, on issues from coronavirus to policing to health care.

Fox News’ Laura Ingraham reacted after the town hall was over by calling it “an ambush.”

She swiped at “former Clintonite” George Stephanopoulos and said, “The DNC may as well have put the whole thing on.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:34:16am

re: #68 dangerman

President Donald Trump faced some serious questions from voters at ABC News’ town hall Tuesday night, on issues from coronavirus to policing to health care.

It’s all either Ass-kissing or Ambush

there is no middle ground

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Jack Burton  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:43:09am

re: #53 Ming5000

The Debate! is coming up. I am nervous. I heard David Axlerod discuss debate prep. I sure hope team Biden prepares for Trump’s firehose lying.

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This tweet is why I say no debates. It’s like playing chess with a pigeon. He’s not debating in good faith. He rambles like a drunk. Everything he says is a lie. He has a vocabulary of about 125 words and to say anything else needs to construct it from those 125 words somehow so it takes him 5 times as long to get a point across, if he even has one.

Listening to Trump talk is like listening to that weird speech from the hotel parking lot in John From Cincinnati except that on top of it he’s an asshole.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:47:50am

this is right

and while its true that its a “goof” woebetide if biden…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:48:00am

re: #70 Jack Burton

This tweet is why I say no debates. It’s like playing chess with a pigeon.

His idea is to say things so outrageous and unfounded that we simply do not know how to react at first, and by the time we recover, the damage is already done.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:48:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:49:29am

re: #71 dangerman

But if Trump’s strategy is to simply let the virus “run its course,” that could mean 2m deaths in the next 12 months. That’s the real headline.

Turd mentality

This is not “just a flu” it can leave permanent or lasting damage to those it does not kill outright.

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Nojay UK  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:52:15am

re: #41 Ace-o-aces

So the Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh has a Religious Demonologist on staff? Really?

Is it a part-time job for someone like running the United Way appeals each year or is it a Black Budget spook role controlled directly from the Vatican? Are we talking crusty old academics reading medieval books in a library or Buffy the Vampire Slayer type action sequences? The world needs to know! Netflix series coming soon?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 2:52:33am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Turd mentality

This is not “just a flu” it can leave permanent or lasting damage to those it does not kill outright.

Which is why the “realpolitick” of the situation should be to prosecute the genocidaires.

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:03:12am

…THE CENTER OF THE EYE OF CATEGORY 2 HURRICANE SALLY MAKES
LANDFALL NEAR GULF SHORES ALABAMA…
…CATASTROPHIC AND LIFE-THREATENING FLOODING LIKELY ALONG
PORTIONS OF THE NORTH-CENTRAL GULF COAST…

At approximately 445 AM CDT…0945 UTC…the center of Hurricane
Sally’s eye made landfall near Gulf Shores, Alabama, as a Category 2
hurricane, with maximum sustained winds of 105 mph (165 km/h) and a
minimum central pressure of 965 mb (28.50 inches).

SUMMARY OF 500 AM CDT…1000 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…30.3N 87.7W
ABOUT 0 MI…0 KM N OF GULF SHORES ALABAMA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…105 MPH…165 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NNE OR 020 DEGREES AT 3 MPH…5 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…965 MB…28.50 INCHES

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:04:01am

re: #75 Nojay UK

So the Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh has a Religious Demonologist on staff? Really?

On the one hand, we have a Pope who tells us that there is no inherent conflict between Evolution and Biblical Creation, on the other hand, there are people in the Church who believe that angels and demons really exist and actively influence our world.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:06:47am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:08:11am

Sally’s northward motion has increased a bit over the past few hours:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:10:44am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:14:34am

Hydrograph near Pensacola:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:14:50am

Nearly two-thirds of US young adults unaware 6m Jews killed in the Holocaust (The Guardian)

According to survey of adults 18-39, 23% said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, had been exaggerated or they weren’t sure (that’s very close to the crasification factor of conservatives)

Almost two-thirds of young American adults do not know that 6 million Jews were killed during the Holocaust, and more than one in 10 believe Jews caused the Holocaust, a new survey has found, revealing shocking levels of ignorance about the greatest crime of the 20th century.

According to the study of millennial and Gen Z adults aged between 18 and 39, almost half (48%) could not name a single concentration camp or ghetto established during the second world war.

Almost a quarter of respondents (23%) said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, or had been exaggerated, or they weren’t sure. One in eight (12%) said they had definitely not heard, or didn’t think they had heard, about the Holocaust.

More than half (56%) said they had seen Nazi symbols on their social media platforms and/or in their communities, and almost half (49%) had seen Holocaust denial or distortion posts on social media or elsewhere online.

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The libertarians who run social media sites will tell you though that better speech drives out bad speech so that’s why they can’t ban Nazis (that, and they’d ban a bunch of GOP politicians in the process). In reality, if good speech could drive out bad speech, there wouldn’t have been a Nazi uprising in Germany. It’s sort of like the mythical good guy with a gun.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:15:58am

Many rivers and creeks in western FL and far southeastern AL are expected to crest at near record levels over the next couple of days.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:16:47am

re: #84 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Many rivers and creeks in western FL and far southeastern AL are expected to crest at near record levels over the next couple of days.

You just need to rake the river beds, clearly.////

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:28:45am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:31:23am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Nearly two-thirds of US young adults unaware 6m Jews killed in the Holocaust (The Guardian)

According to survey of adults 18-39, 23% said they believed the Holocaust was a myth, had been exaggerated or they weren’t sure (that’s very close to the crasification factor of conservatives)

We were talking about the decline in public education that really accelerated after Reagan. This is part of the price we pay for neglecting something that vital.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:38:08am

A feral conservative GOP state rep in Montana:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:40:51am

So Pensacola has already had more rain from this storm than we get in a year (a good year at that). Last year was 10”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:42:25am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A feral conservative GOP state rep in Montana:

A lot of modern Conservatism is not just an ideology or political conviction, it is also an expression of a personality type: intimidating, imposing, confrontational, contrarian.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:42:55am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Clearly one of those assholes who walks in with his mask on (he’s got a neck gaiter on in the picture), then pulls it down once nobody is checking.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:49:24am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A feral conservative GOP state rep in Montana:

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That’s the kind of movement that gets a knife in the brain response. Kill zombies!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:50:24am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We were talking about the decline in public education that really accelerated after Reagan. This is part of the price we pay for neglecting something that vital.

Part of it I imagine could be attributed to the mists of time, in that the longer back in the past an event occurs, the less people seem to know about it. The genocides perpetrated by Christianity on themselves and others comes to mind.

In this country things are supported or neglected based on perceived patriotic value. The best example I can think of is Texas mythology surrounding The Alamo. The story is a handful of plucky fighters held off a much superior and better-armed force long enough that reinforcements could arrive to win the war.

They don’t tell you what the Battle of the Alamo or the larger revolution in Texas was about: The revolution was about creating a right to hold people as property in a nation where slavery was illegal.

During my life though conservatives have been actively undermining education by seizing control of school boards.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:52:08am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:52:55am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A lot of modern Conservatism is not just an ideology or political conviction, it is also an expression of a personality type: intimidating, imposing, confrontational, contrarian.

Grasping and maintaining power. That’s it.

Such displays are intended to show “I have power over you.” Note the woman says the state rep charged her when she challenged him, and her fourteen year-old daughter had to interpose herself to stop him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 3:54:16am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They don’t tell you what the Battle of the Alamo or the larger revolution in Texas was about: The revolution was about creating a right to hold people as property in a nation where slavery was illegal.

During my life though conservatives have been actively undermining education by seizing control of school boards.

Santa Ana was a corrupt dictator who denied the Texans any sort of representation but yeah, one of the “rights” they were fighting for was the right to own slaves.

After Reagan tossed the Fundamentalists aside (as soon as Nancy’s White House astrologer advised her to so), they realized that they had to insinuate their people into positions of power wherever they could: education, public administration and the military.

And we see the results: textbooks with Creationist content, public clerks refusing to grant gay marriage licenses and the USAF Academy fully in the grip of Christian fundamentalists, just to name a few examples.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 4:00:51am

QAnon is coopting a USPS phishing scam (The Verge)

Conspiracy theorists claim the text messages are linked to human trafficking

A viral phishing scheme is targeting people across the country with scammy text messages claiming to be from the United States Postal Service (USPS). Now, QAnon conspiracy theorists have jumped into the fray, falsely claiming the scheme is tied to human trafficking, as reported by Insider.

There’s no evidence to suggest this is true. The rumor has spread on Facebook and Instagram, echoing the Wayfair conspiracy theory that went viral earlier this summer. Unlike the Wayfair conspiracy, however, the USPS myth is obfuscating a real phishing threat.

The scam involves text messages that claim to have information about a USPS delivery. To find out more, people have to click a link. On Twitter, security researcher Eric Ellason said the link goes to the domain m9sxv (dot) info, which then redirects to jtuzd (dot) rdtk (dot) io. He speculated the goal was to steal peoples’ credentials, as reported by Gizmodo.

(more, with links in the article)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 4:34:12am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There’s no evidence to suggest this is true. The rumor has spread on Facebook and Instagram, echoing the Wayfair conspiracy theory that went viral earlier this summer. Unlike the Wayfair conspiracy, however, the USPS myth is obfuscating a real phishing threat.

When we come to rely on FB and Instagram for information like that, we all but deserve to be misled…

See posts above about the price of neglecting public education…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 4:59:24am

Woke up late this morning—it’s wet here, but the worst of Sally is to the West of us. We do have a tornado watch to watch. Bach is nice in a wet morning.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:06:14am

re: #99 Decatur Deb

Woke up late this morning—it’s wet here, but the worst of Sally is to the West of us. We do have a tornado watch to watch. Bach is nice in a wet morning.

Good day to vote early. FT.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:07:36am

re: #100 BlueSpotinAL

Good day to vote early. FT.

Good day to vote by mail—we’re expecting up to 8” today, more over next few.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:15:01am

re: #99 Decatur Deb

Bach is nice in a wet morning.

“Bach” being the German word for “brook” or “creek”…

It has been very dry here on the Rhine, I can barely hear the Heimbach flowing past my house…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:23:42am
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:28:45am

re: #35 teleskiguy

This really chaps my ass.

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I’m a supervisor in the food & beverage department at a small ski area. I’m lucky in that I get paid $20/hr plus tips, management can afford to pay me. Most people with the same job I have aren’t so lucky. That shit is *work* when it’s busy, everyone who does it deserves a living wage.

The problem with her attitude is that I bet I could find someone that coukd do her job but only require 90% of her salary.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:30:47am

re: #104 Belafon

The problem with her attitude is that I bet I could find someone that coukd do her job but only require 90% of her salary.

If she were a man, that would be the norm.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:31:13am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:33:07am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Bach” being the German word for “brook” or “creek”…

It has been very dry here on the Rhine, I can barely hear the Heimbach flowing past my house…

Our house is at the top of a small hill, a fossil sand dune God put here 6000 years ago to fool us. A slow, wet, hurricane in the ’80s cut us off for a few days. The Little Choctawhatchee River is at the bottom of the slope, usually about 6 feet wide. Not today.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:33:08am

With the twin focuses on covid and trump’s flip flop and trump’s mia “health care plan”

The question stephanopoulos should have asked:

“IF you KNEW you had a health plan, you KNEW COVID was a killer, and you KNEW people were losing their health care coverage - why not take care of the American people by releasing it for them?”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:37:03am

What am I missing?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:38:37am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Trump shares manipulated video of Biden, replacing “Despacito” with N.W.A’s anti-police anthem

Again: this simply represents a Higher Truth, namely that Biden will disarm us all and then hand over our white suburban neighborhoods to revenge-bent Mau-Mau rape gangs…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:39:22am

Sarah McBride won her Democratic primary race last night.

Sarah McBride Is Set to Be the Nation’s Highest-Ranking Transgender Official (MSN)

Ms. McBride, 30, defeated a token primary challenger and is widely expected to win the November general election — the Wilmington-based seat is safely Democratic and is being vacated by Harris B. McDowell III, who is retiring after representing the district for 44 years.

Ms. McBride said in an interview that she wanted her victory to inspire others. “My hope is that this result can help reinforce for a young kid trying to find their place in this world, here in Delaware or anywhere else in this country, that this democracy is big enough for them, too,” she said.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:40:05am

re: #109 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

What am I missing?

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I’d guessing the IRS would have to reassign real-world numbers to his properties, which he has overvalued to get loans and undervalued to avoid taxes.

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jeffreyw  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:46:46am

Good morning!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:46:51am

re: #112 Barefoot Grin

I’d guessing the IRS would have to reassign real-world numbers to his properties, which he has overvalued to get loans and undervalued to avoid taxes.

Ah! That makes sense. Thank you!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:48:19am

My friends’ temple was part of this service—sort of pisses ya’ off:

Alabama Jewish prayer service ‘Zoombombed’ with anti-Semitic messages, Hitler images

al.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:48:59am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In the same article, Sen. Chris Coons won his primary against a leftie challenger. Sen. Coons never polled less than about +40 in that race.

Mr. Coons will next face Lauren Witzke, whom Delaware Republicans nominated on Tuesday. Ms. Witzke has posted a QAnon slogan on Twitter, making her the latest winner of a G.O.P. primary to have dabbled in the conspiracy theory. She is not expected to be competitive against Mr. Coons in the general election.

The GOP is going to run a Qnut against him. Good luck.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:53:11am

re: #109 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s not possible. The IRS has his tax filings. They know what he’d owe.

And if they’re released, everyone else would know. But his tax bill would remain the same either way. Cohen’s just not that smart. Or knowledgeable about the taxes (or much else).

The most likely reason Trump wont release his taxes is because they’d show who he owes money too and that his actual income is far lower than anyone claiming to be a billionaire would be expected to have.

For the moneys owed, they’d point to Russian oligarchs and foreign banks.
For the income, they’d show how he’s laundering money between his businesses - claiming income and expenses simply by moving the same money around, and not actually generating revenue other than the money he’s getting from taxpayers for staying at his golf and hotel businesses at every opportunity.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:54:01am

re: #113 jeffreyw

Ah, the rarely spotted deer bird taking flight in the background.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:54:05am
A phone call between Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was leaked Tuesday showing the two former leaders discussing what he could and couldn’t tell the incoming Trump administration, with Biden telling the foreign leader that he wants to stay “deeply engaged” in their diplomatic work as a private citizen.

The call, revealed by Ukrainian politician Andriy Derkach, took place on Nov. 16, 2016, just a week after then-candidate Trump won the presidential election.

During the exchange, the outgoing vice president and the then-president of Ukraine discussed the topic of visas, “something we have tried to sell to the Ukrainian people,” Poroshenko said.

nypost.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:54:48am

re: #115 Decatur Deb

My friends’ temple was part of this service—sort of pisses ya’ off:

Alabama Jewish prayer service ‘Zoombombed’ with anti-Semitic messages, Hitler images

al.com

“It was horrible. There were Nazi imagery, swastikas, images of Hitler, there were videos, some of them I thought were pornographic, but I’m not sure,” Kramer said. “But then the voices came over and they were very loud, very boisterous. They used very bad language, ‘f’in jew,’ ‘go back to the showers.’ Just very foul Holocaust imagery.”

Feel the conservative and Christian love.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:55:25am

re: #117 lawhawk

That’s not possible. The IRS has his tax filings. They know what he’d owe.

And if they’re released, everyone else would know. But his tax bill would remain the same either way. Cohen’s just not that smart. Or knowledgeable about the taxes (or much else).

The most likely reason Trump wont release his taxes is because they’d show who he owes money too and that his actual income is far lower than anyone claiming to be a billionaire would be expected to have.

For the moneys owed, they’d point to Russian oligarchs and foreign banks.
For the income, they’d show how he’s laundering money between his businesses - claiming income and expenses simply by moving the same money around, and not actually generating revenue other than the money he’s getting from taxpayers for staying at his golf and hotel businesses at every opportunity.

That’s a better explanation. Thanks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 5:59:18am

re: #119 Shropshire Slasher

A phone call between Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was leaked Tuesday showing the two former leaders discussing what he could and couldn’t tell the incoming Trump administration, with Biden telling the foreign leader that he wants to stay “deeply engaged” in their diplomatic work as a private citizen.

so this is going to be spun into a Deep State Skandal big-time…

the point being that Biden was just dealing rationally and objectively with the fact that Trump was unprepared and unable to do his job from even before the start

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:01:31am

Commenting on an article about our terrible conservative governance in The New Yorker:

The Man Who Refused to Spy

The F.B.I. tried to recruit an Iranian scientist as an informant. When he balked, the payback was brutal.

In the spring of 2017, an Iranian materials scientist named Sirous Asgari received a call from the United States consulate in Dubai. Two years earlier, he and his wife, Fatemeh, had applied for visas to visit America, where their children lived. The consulate informed him that their requests had finally been approved. The timing was strange: President Donald Trump had just issued an executive order banning Iranians from entering the U.S. on the very kind of visa that Asgari and his wife were granted. Maybe applications filed before the visa ban had been grandfathered through, or some career State Department official wanted to give families like his a last chance to reunite.

(more)

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mmmirele  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:06:15am

House Dems report on the Boeing 737 MAX is out and it is scathing:

Financial Times with the scathing headline:

Boeing hid design flaws in Max jets from pilots and regulators
Congressional report into why two 737 aircraft crashed within months of each other finds aerospace group cut corners

and from the report:

“[The two crashes] were the horrific culmination of a series of faulty technical assumptions by Boeing’s engineers, a lack of transparency on the part of Boeing’s management, and grossly insufficient oversight by the [Federal Aviation Administration] — the pernicious result of regulatory capture on the part of the FAA with respect to its responsibilities to perform robust oversight of Boeing and to ensure the safety of the flying public.

ft.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:10:20am

re: #124 mmmirele

House Dems report on the Boeing 737 MAX is out and it is scathing:

Boeing is a de facto state enterprise in any case, more like Airbus than anything to do with capitalism.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:10:27am

It really does tell you how far gone some people are. Trump I’m tape admits downplaying the virus. All is fine with Trumpers. Harris who spent a lot of last year running for President accidentally says Harris administration and it’s proof that Biden will be a puppet for the shadow President, Kamala. How the hell do you fix that mentality?

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mmmirele  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:11:34am

I can’t call this strange because I was aware of the pilgrimage by Breslover Hasidim to Uman, Ukraine every year at Rosh Hashanah, and it’s not like there haven’t been difficulties in past pilgrimages, but this year, we have the ‘rona and it reads like a 2020 Apocalypse Bingo Card entry:

Jewish New Year: Virus restrictions thwart pilgrims on Ukraine-Belarus border

Hundreds of Hasidic Jews have been stranded at the border between Ukraine and Belarus as coronavirus restrictions impede an annual pilgrimage.

The pilgrims were travelling to the central Ukrainian town of Uman to visit the tomb of Rabbi Nahman, the founder of the Breslov Hasidic movement.

Every year thousands make the journey to mark the Jewish New Year, which in 2020 runs from 18 to 20 September.

However, Ukraine has closed its borders to limit the spread of coronavirus.

As the pilgrims - many of them from Israel - attempted to enter Ukraine this week, they were stopped by border guards.

They began their journey despite appeals from both the Ukrainian and Israeli governments asking them not to travel to Uman this year, fearing a spike in coronavirus infections.

more at the link: bbc.com

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:14:07am

re: #126 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Trumpers are really horrible people. They know all the horrible things Trump does. Either they don’t care, of they love him for those horrible things.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:17:01am

re: #128 BigPapa

Trumpers are really horrible people. They know all the horrible things Trump does. Either they don’t care, of they love him for those horrible things.

Let’s be optimistic and say there are only about 75,000,000 of them. Once the asshole is gone, what do we do about them?

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:18:20am

Oh he can and he will
I’m sure they’re still digging up dirt on the questioners

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:19:56am

re: #128 BigPapa

Trumpers are really horrible people. They know all the horrible things Trump does. Either they don’t care, of they love him for those horrible things.

I’m tired of hearing FAKE NEWS from people who digest it and then shit it out. Trump has really harmed our politics I fear for a long time.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:20:44am

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Feel the conservative and Christian love.

This made Detroit local 11:00 news last night.

The pastor of a Michigan parish has apologized after another priest assigned to that parish compared the Black Lives Matter movement to terrorists, in part because of the group’s support for LGBTQ equality.

Fr. Bob McCabe, pastor of Church of the Divine Child, Dearborn, posted the apology on Facebook shortly after Fr. Paul Graney’s egregious homily last Saturday afternoon. McCabe said the live-streamed homily by Graney initially posted on that same parish Facebook page had “brought forth division, anger, confusion and chaos.” The pastor added:

“Every person is sacred in the eyes of God regardless of their race, religion or sexuality. At different times we need to focus in on different groups and their particular needs. Right now, the murder of countless persons of color demands a clear response. The entire human family needs to unite in confronting these injustices. We must protect the lives of persons of color and be the voice for people who do not have one.”

The response was necessary after Graney attacked Black Lives Matter for its support of LGBTQ equality. In his homily, he condemned protesters as terrorists. The Detroit News reported:

“After mentioning the 19th anniversary of 9/11, the associate priest described how al-Qaeda ‘came with the goal to destroy America, little by little, with acts of terror. … But in 2020, many of our own people are now out there in the streets wanting to remake America into something else by destroying what it is today. Little by little. There’s no great army, but it’s riot by riot, really.’

“Graney singled out two groups he said intended ‘to implement communism: a stateless, classless society.’ One was antifa, or anti-fascists, a range of far-left militant groups. The other was Black Lives Matter, which protests discrimination against African Americans.

“The associate pastor called the first ‘an anarchist, terrorist organization’ and rejected the second as ‘working against the traditional family structure’ by supporting LGBTQ people, he said, reading aloud from the BLM website from the pulpit.”

Graney cited specific passages from the Black Lives Matter Global Network’s website, which states the group’s values that include being queer-affirming and working against heteropatriarchy. Toward the homily’s end, after condemning same-gender relationships, the priest said:

“‘Al-Qaeda’s goal was to come to the United States and kill Americans. Really just wanted to wipe America off the map. And they would’ve done it if they could,’ he said. ‘But today, those who we see wanting to bring down American are Americans and they want to do it under the facade of justice, freedom and love. But it is all a big bunch of baloney. It’s anti-Christian. It’s anti-family. It’s evil.’”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:23:34am

re: #127 mmmirele

I can’t call this strange because I was aware of the pilgrimage by Breslover Hasidim to Uman, Ukraine every year at Rosh Hashanah, and it’s not like there haven’t been difficulties in past pilgrimages, but this year, we have the ‘rona and it reads like a 2020 Apocalypse Bingo Card entry:

more at the link: bbc.com

They began their journey despite appeals from both the Ukrainian and Israeli governments asking them not to travel to Uman this year, fearing a spike in coronavirus infections.

so what were they expecting? a welcome mat?

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:23:39am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

Let’s be optimistic and say there are only about 75,000,000 of them. Once the asshole is gone, what do we do about them?

I honestly don’t know. My hope albeit idealistic is they see a functioning Federal executive branch and they realize they’ve been had but I dunno. You can’t expect to ban the GOP. I guess all you can do is try to stop the rise of future Trumps in politics and that’s becoming harder. As AM pointed out, Delaware nominated a Q nut for the Senate. Oregon also has. This is their party right now. It’s full of cuckoo bullshit.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:24:04am

re: #117 lawhawk

That’s not possible. The IRS has his tax filings. They know what he’d owe.

And if they’re released, everyone else would know. But his tax bill would remain the same either way. Cohen’s just not that smart. Or knowledgeable about the taxes (or much else).

The most likely reason Trump wont release his taxes is because they’d show who he owes money too and that his actual income is far lower than anyone claiming to be a billionaire would be expected to have.

For the moneys owed, they’d point to Russian oligarchs and foreign banks.
For the income, they’d show how he’s laundering money between his businesses - claiming income and expenses simply by moving the same money around, and not actually generating revenue other than the money he’s getting from taxpayers for staying at his golf and hotel businesses at every opportunity.

Guessing here:

Multiple millions of public eyes vs a handful at the irs
The extent of the fraud becomes inescapable
Statute of limitations goes out the window

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:24:13am

re: #130 dangerman

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Oh he can and he will
I’m sure they’re still digging up dirt on the questioners

Fox has already called it a “DNC ambush”

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:24:37am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

His idea is to say things so outrageous and unfounded that we simply do not know how to react at first, and by the time we recover, the damage is already done.

Why does everyone think Biden can’t prepare for this?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:25:13am

re: #137 Belafon

Why does everyone think Biden can’t prepare for this?

The trick will be to reply in kind without getting dragged down to Trump’s level.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:25:43am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fox has already called it a “DNC ambush”

Yeah? Well let em. Trump dug another two feet in his own political grave last night.

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:29:07am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

Let’s be optimistic and say there are only about 75,000,000 of them. Once the asshole is gone, what do we do about them?

Ostracism. I equate Trumpers with Q-cumbers: they only differ in levels of hate and delusion. No access to levers of power.

They can live the rest of their lives in peace dancing with snakes for all I care.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:29:16am

re: #137 Belafon

Why does everyone think Biden can’t prepare for this?

Because they actually buy some of what’s been projected into Joe. They forget that this is a guy who survived politically on two of the worst landslide days in Democratic Party history 1972 and 1984, 1978 and 2002 weren’t great years either for Dems too. People keep on underrating Biden not just as a politician but also as an orator and statesman. Is he like Obama? No but he doesn’t need to be.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:30:58am

re: #119 Shropshire Slasher

nypost.com

that first paragraph is just wrong

A phone call between Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was leaked Tuesday showing the two former leaders discussing what he could and couldn’t tell the incoming Trump administration, with Biden telling the foreign leader that he wants to stay “deeply engaged” in their diplomatic work as a private citizen.

it should read

A phone call between Joe Biden, Vice President of the United States, and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was leaked Tuesday showing the two former leaders discussing what he could and couldn’t tell the incoming Trump administration, with Biden telling the foreign leader that he wants to stay “deeply engaged” in their diplomatic work as a private citizen.

When the conversation took place:
- biden was NOT the democratic presidential nominee. He was the VP
- Poroshenko was not the former president, he was the president of ukraine

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NetworkKed  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:32:58am

re: #137 Belafon

Why does everyone think Biden can’t prepare for this?

He’s obviously going to prepare for it.

The problem is that no one to date has found the exact right response. You can’t address everything Trump vomits on the stage, but getting bogged down in minutae will get you run over.

I’d look for a very finely-tuned insult / dismissal. The Reagan “there you go again” is almost right, but I’d want a bit more straight mockery of the alternative facts at play.

“Oh look, your incompetence is showing. Again.”

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JC1  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:33:53am

re: #112 Barefoot Grin

I’d guessing the IRS would have to reassign real-world numbers to his properties, which he has overvalued to get loans and undervalued to avoid taxes.

The IRS doesn’t collect property taxes. The state and local authorities do.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:34:11am

re: #142 dangerman

that first paragraph is just wrong

it should read

A phone call between Joe Biden, Vice President of the United States, and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was leaked Tuesday showing the two former leaders discussing what he could and couldn’t tell the incoming Trump administration, with Biden telling the foreign leader that he wants to stay “deeply engaged” in their diplomatic work as a private citizen.

When the conversation took place:
- biden was NOT the democratic presidential nominee. He was the VP
- Poroshenko was not the former president, he was the president of ukraine

That’s why I never read the NYP. It’s nothing but bullshit and propaganda. Not to the fox level (because nothing on TV really is) but closer to the national enquirer.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:35:33am

re: #143 NetworkKed

He’s obviously going to prepare for it.

The problem is that no one to date has found the exact right response. You can’t address everything Trump vomits on the stage, but getting bogged down in minutae will get you run over.

I’d look for a very finely-tuned insult / dismissal. The Reagan “there you go again” is almost right, but I’d want a bit more straight mockery of the alternative facts at play.

“Oh look, your incompetence is showing. Again.”

He did have a nice start yesterday when he gently pointed out that he’s not President and Donald is so Donald blaming him for there being no national mask is absurd. But I dunno. I’m just glad that Biden’s gonna call him out on his lies to his face.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:36:00am

re: #126 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It really does tell you how far gone some people are. Trump I’m tape admits downplaying the virus. All is fine with Trumpers. Harris who spent a lot of last year running for President accidentally says Harris administration and it’s proof that Biden will be a puppet for the shadow President, Kamala. How the hell do you fix that mentality?

Meanwhile trump just inoculated Joe against any future accidental slip of the tongue.
Anyone piles onto Joe for an obvious misspeak…just respond with two words “herd mentality”

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:37:07am

re: #126 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It really does tell you how far gone some people are. Trump I’m tape admits downplaying the virus. All is fine with Trumpers. Harris who spent a lot of last year running for President accidentally says Harris administration and it’s proof that Biden will be a puppet for the shadow President, Kamala. How the hell do you fix that mentality?

You keep them out of power.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:37:58am

re: #134 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I honestly don’t know. My hope albeit idealistic is they see a functioning Federal executive branch and they realize they’ve been had but I dunno. You can’t expect to ban the GOP. I guess all you can do is try to stop the rise of future Trumps in politics and that’s becoming harder. As AM pointed out, Delaware nominated a Q nut for the Senate. Oregon also has. This is their party right now. It’s full of cuckoo bullshit.

That by not denouncing they are endorsing

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mmmirele  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:38:06am

re: #133 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They began their journey despite appeals from both the Ukrainian and Israeli governments asking them not to travel to Uman this year, fearing a spike in coronavirus infections.

so what were they expecting? a welcome mat?

They probably expected the same hassles they have every year when 10,000 people descend on a city of 80,000 people. They did not expect COVID-19. I’m not defending it, I’m just pointing out it happens every year. These guys probably expected it to be no different. But it’s different. *Especially* with Israel set to lock down for three weeks starting on September 18. Israelis could be stranded.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:38:06am

re: #140 BigPapa

Ostracism. I equate Trumpers with Q-cumbers: they only differ in levels of hate and delusion. No access to levers of power.

They can live the rest of their lives in peace dancing with snakes for all I care.

They’re not going to live in peace, they have to be rendered harmless. Getting rid of the Trumpist leadership is a big start, but the institutions that protect us from cultural pathology are crippled. We either come up with a fresh social contract or our kids are in deep shit.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:38:31am

re: #147 dangerman

Meanwhile trump just inoculated Joe against any future accidental slip of the tongue.
Anyone piles onto Joe for an obvious misspeak…just respond with two words “herd mentality”
Herd mentslity

Yeah I was gonna press them on that. I don’t know how you get herd mentality from herd immunity but his supporters do seem to have a herd like mentality when it comes to reality. The same lame talking points.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:38:45am

re: #136 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fox has already called it a “DNC ambush”

Right.
Questions
From citizens
Equals ambush

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:39:40am

re: #143 NetworkKed

He’s obviously going to prepare for it.

The problem is that no one to date has found the exact right response. You can’t address everything Trump vomits on the stage, but getting bogged down in minutae will get you run over.

I’d look for a very finely-tuned insult / dismissal. The Reagan “there you go again” is almost right, but I’d want a bit more straight mockery of the alternative facts at play.

“Oh look, your incompetence is showing. Again.”

I remember when people were worried about him debating Ryan.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:40:13am

re: #143 NetworkKed

He’s obviously going to prepare for it.

The problem is that no one to date has found the exact right response. You can’t address everything Trump vomits on the stage, but getting bogged down in minutae will get you run over.

I’d look for a very finely-tuned insult / dismissal. The Reagan “there you go again” is almost right, but I’d want a bit more straight mockery of the alternative facts at play.

“Oh look, your incompetence is showing. Again.”

I liked the suggestion someone here had yesterday. When Trump tries one of his bullshit answers, Joe should just say ‘Answer the damn question.’

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:40:15am

I don’t find the question of what do do about Trump that complicated. We’re all showing our Normalcy Bias. He’s not normal, don’t respond to him normally. Don’t let Trump make the rules.

Biden should speak more to the debate moderators and the American people and show disdain and disrespect towards Trump when he does his thing. Why are we even fact checking him? It’s a complete waste of time and spins all our wheels. We know he’s full of shit all the time. Don’t get caught up in the maelstrom of Trump’s delusion, dismiss it like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

It will drive Trump nuts.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:41:06am

re: #137 Belafon

Why does everyone think Biden can’t prepare for this?

“Look, let him stand over there out of the way and spew any malarkey he likes, while we talk about getting this country back on track and respected throughout the world in the first year of my admin”

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:43:28am

re: #139 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah? Well let em. Trump dug another two feet in his own political grave last night.

He is really stunningly bad at this
And they keep scheduling more of these horribly bad (for him) “situations”

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:44:05am

Talk through and past Trump. Let him losing his shit be the center of attention.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:45:17am

Just say lying..

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:46:08am

re: #135 dangerman

Guessing here:

Multiple millions of public eyes vs a handful at the irs
The extent of the fraud becomes inescapable
Statute of limitations goes out the window

There’s no statute of limitations on tax fraud. The IRS can investigate and prosecute individuals for tax fraud from when they are discovered, which means that if they find tax fraud in 2020 for something in 2010, they can do so. This is unlike other areas of law where the statute of limitations is more definite.

Trump’s argument will be as it has always been - he’s got so many returns that it’s difficult for an expert to understand, let alone non-tax people, but when you see money flowing between his various entities and no actual money is present, and it’s all done with intent to deceive the tax authorities, you’re looking at not only federal tax fraud, but state tax fraud too. NYS tax is computed differently, so doesn’t necessarily rely on a federal finding of fraud. NYC also would have tax fraud implications as well.

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:47:00am

re: #151 Decatur Deb

They’re not going to live in peace, they have to be rendered harmless. Getting rid of the Trumpist leadership is a big start, but the institutions that protect us from cultural pathology are crippled. We either come up with a fresh social contract or our kids are in deep shit.

I agree we’re in a deep hole and dumping the orange bastard is only stopping the digging. I think Trump was the result of 30 years of not dealing with fanaticism and conspiracy theory. To recitfy that will take a reckoning that I’m not sure we’re capable of. But we have to try.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:49:38am

Lre: #156 BigPapa

I don’t find the question of what do do about Trump that complicated. We’re all showing our Normalcy Bias. He’s not normal, don’t respond to him normally. Don’t let Trump make the rules.

Biden should speak more to the debate moderators and the American people and show disdain and disrespect towards Trump when he does his thing. Why are we even fact checking him? It’s a complete waste of time and spins all our wheels. We know he’s full of shit all the time. Don’t get caught up in the maelstrom of Trump’s delusion, dismiss it like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

It will drive Trump nuts.

Well let’s be clear Trump, Trumpism, & Trumpers are three different things. I’m confident in beating him in November but the latter two are going to be lingering in our government and society. I’m not worried about Trump honestly. I’m more worried that through his words and actions he’s weakened democracy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:50:17am

re: #162 BigPapa

I agree we’re in a deep hole and dumping the orange bastard is only stopping the digging. I think Trump was the result of 30 years of not dealing with fanaticism and conspiracy theory. To recitfy that will take a reckoning that I’m not sure we’re capable of. But we have to try.

Yeah he’s definitely a product of conspiracy culture.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:50:20am

I didn’t know people were actually thinking Biden was being racist:

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Renaissance_Man  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:50:29am

re: #157 dangerman

“Look, let him stand over there out of the way and spew any malarkey he likes, while we talk about getting this country back on track and respected throughout the world in the first year of my admin”

‘Donald, hush. Grownups are talking.’

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:52:23am

re: #155 makeitstop

I liked the suggestion someone here had yesterday. When Trump tries one of his bullshit answers, Joe should just say ‘Answer the damn question.’

Interesting answer.
That wasn’t the question.
Would you like me to explain it to you?…..

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:53:01am

re: #156 BigPapa

I don’t find the question of what do do about Trump that complicated. We’re all showing our Normalcy Bias. He’s not normal, don’t respond to him normally. Don’t let Trump make the rules.

Biden should speak more to the debate moderators and the American people and show disdain and disrespect towards Trump when he does his thing. Why are we even fact checking him? It’s a complete waste of time and spins all our wheels. We know he’s full of shit all the time. Don’t get caught up in the maelstrom of Trump’s delusion, dismiss it like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

It will drive Trump nuts.

+1

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:53:08am
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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:53:15am

re: #167 dangerman

Interesting answer.
That wasn’t the question.
Would you like me to explain it to you?…..

‘You haven’t answered the question. I will.’

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:54:29am

re: #127 mmmirele

With Israel going on lockdown, they’ll find themselves stranded or having to quarantine going into Yom Kippur and then Sukkot (depending on the duration of quarantine).

There’s a reason that the Saudis basically shut down the haj this year. They had a fraction of the usual number of pilgrims. They weren’t taking any chances of it becoming the kind of superspreader event that would be catastrophic.

Meanwhile, there are communities and congregations of all religious denominations that continue to ignore the rules. We’ve seen churches flaunt the social distancing and masking rules or holding ceremonies inside despite state mandates to not do so. Some have gotten massive fines as a result.

NYS has now seen its Rx rate tick above 1% for the first time in more than a month. That’s not good, and signals that covid19 is now spreading faster. It’s what happens as we reopen and people think it means to skip the masking/social distancing rules.

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jeffreyw  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:56:14am

re: #118 lawhawk

Ah, the rarely spotted deer bird taking flight in the background.

Yes, deerbirbs are always welcome at our table. Skittish as hell, though.

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:56:48am

re: #163 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

L

Well let’s be clear Trump, Trumpism, & Trumpers are three different things. I’m confident in beating him in November but the latter two are going to be lingering in our government and society. I’m not worried about Trump honestly. I’m more worried that through his words and actions he’s weakened democracy.

Yah, we’re all having parallel conversations. Trumpers and Trumpism will be here long after he’s gone, but they were here before Trump. We just called them wingnuts, Tea Partiers, etc. The judiciary is horribly poisoned and weakened. It’s going to take years to undo the damage, at best.

Some of the judges should be challenged with impeachment. The ones with no experience should be easy pickings.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 6:59:53am

amp.theguardian.com
I can’t logically explain this. We read Anne Frank’s diary, we did a project on a real life child of the Holocaust, & we read Night. I myself have visited Dachau, Sachenhausen, & Auschwitz, I won’t lie to you guys. I’ve teared up at all three. There’s something wrong with how younger people are learning and interpreting history.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:00:11am

re: #161 lawhawk

There’s no statute of limitations on tax fraud. The IRS can investigate and prosecute individuals for tax fraud from when they are discovered, which means that if they find tax fraud in 2020 for something in 2010, they can do so. This is unlike other areas of law where the statute of limitations is more definite.

Trump’s argument will be as it has always been - he’s got so many returns that it’s difficult for an expert to understand, let alone non-tax people, but when you see money flowing between his various entities and no actual money is present, and it’s all done with intent to deceive the tax authorities, you’re looking at not only federal tax fraud, but state tax fraud too. NYS tax is computed differently, so doesn’t necessarily rely on a federal finding of fraud. NYC also would have tax fraud implications as well.

Yes there’s no sol on fraud
I was implying the otherwise normal sol on the returns, absent fraud

I don’t know that Cohen was referring to
Maybe he’ll clarify

The irs doesn’t look at everything exhaustively.. they couldn’t possibly

I’m still just guessing

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:01:13am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The embarrassment continues.

Trump Gives Netanyahu Fake ‘Key To White House’ To Celebrate Fake Peace Deal. So That’s On Brand! (Wonkette, with video and snark)

There’s always a West Wing episode

West Wing CJ’s Laughter

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:01:20am

re: #173 BigPapa

Yah, we’re all having parallel conversations. Trumpers and Trumpism will be here long after he’s gone, but they were here before Trump. We just called them wingnuts, Tea Partiers, etc. The judiciary is horribly poisoned and weakened. It’s going to take years to undo the damage, at best.

Some of the judges should be challenged with impeachment. The ones with no experience should be easy pickings.

True that. Just gotta deal with them. Fortunately Trump will be a pariah in the annals of history. He’s not getting rehabilitated.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:02:58am

re: #175 dangerman

Yes there’s no sol on fraud
I was implying the otherwise normal sol on the returns, absent fraud

I don’t know that Cohen was referring to
Maybe he’ll clarify

The irs doesn’t look at everything exhaustively.. they couldn’t possibly

I’m still just guessing

No, the IRS lacks resources to investigate exhaustively, but they do have computer systems that can look for things that are out of sorts. Trump’s admitted that he’s been under audit for years, which does indicate that the IRS has been scrutinizing his returns for a long time. That’s the excuse he’s given for not releasing his returns. They see that he’s not doing something right, so he’s probably trying to negotiate lower tax bill while the IRS is finding a much higher tax obligation.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:03:40am

My abbreviated Anne Laurie roundup on Covid:

Ugh, exercise:

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:03:46am

re: #176 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

There’s always a West Wing episode

[Embedded content]

Bartlett will be president longer than trump
So will Dalton

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:06:16am

re: #179 Belafon

My abbreviated Anne Laurie roundup on Covid:

[Embedded content]

I thought we weren’t allowed in the EU. Unfortunately I don’t think we’re going to be allowed for awhile. I feel awful for my mom. She and my Dad were planning their first overseas trip for this summer and then Covid happened.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:08:47am

re: #173 BigPapa

Yah, we’re all having parallel conversations. Trumpers and Trumpism will be here long after he’s gone, but they were here before Trump. We just called them wingnuts, Tea Partiers, etc. The judiciary is horribly poisoned and weakened. It’s going to take years to undo the damage, at best.

Some of the judges should be challenged with impeachment. The ones with no experience should be easy pickings.

We need to continue calling Trumpism Republicanism. Trump needs to be the anchor tied around the necks of all REPUBLICANS forever.

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A Cranky One  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:08:58am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:13:12am

re: #179 Belafon

This was my question. How did this happen?

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:14:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:15:13am

re: #142 dangerman

that first paragraph is just wrong

it should read

A phone call between Joe Biden, Vice President of the United States, and Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko was leaked Tuesday showing the two former leaders discussing what he could and couldn’t tell the incoming Trump administration, with Biden telling the foreign leader that he wants to stay “deeply engaged” in their diplomatic work as a private citizen.

When the conversation took place:
- biden was NOT the democratic presidential nominee. He was the VP
- Poroshenko was not the former president, he was the president of ukraine

It is phrased that way most intentionally

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:15:25am

re: #184 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She’s apparently either in the US military or related to someone in the US military.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:16:41am

re: #153 dangerman

Right.
Questions
From citizens
Equals ambush

Not
Kissing
Ass
Equals ambush

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:17:14am

I recall saying ‘Imagine our country run on AM radio’ years ago. Then I recall saying ‘this is our country on AM Radio’ a few years ago. Holy schniekes that’s just a raw concept to think of now. But AM radio ran unopposed for 30 years, then 10+ years ago the internet blew that up. Information overload.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:18:09am

re: #169 Belafon

it’s amazing how talking to a normal person embarrasses trump so badly but bullshitting to a reporter is something he can do effortlessly. almost like there’s something slightly wrong with how the questions are being asked

because he cannot dismiss them as “fake citizens” or “enemies of themselves!”

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:19:32am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because he cannot dismiss them as “fake citizens” or “enemies of themselves!”

They’re plants.

Just watch, that’s how this will get spun. We’ve seen that at other town hall settings in the past.

Every question is a gotcha question when Trump doesn’t have a credible answer and has to bulkshit his way with empty platitudes and nonsensical ramblings that don’t actually answer the question asked.

It’s also what happens when someone asks questions knowing that they don’t have to ever worry about access to Trump after the event. Unlike the press that has to constantly worry about Trump cutting them out of the loop, these folks at a town hall don’t have to worry about access. This is their shot.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:19:51am

re: #187 lawhawk

She’s apparently either in the US military or related to someone in the US military.

Actually it appears she might be an American ex-pat. She did work at a resort that typically serves the U.S. military.

“The unnamed person, who had recently returned to Bavaria following a holiday abroad, chose to socialize despite having Covid-19 symptoms, according to Stephan Scharf, press officer at Garmisch-Partenkirchen District Administrator’s Office.”

Source: CNN

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:20:41am

re: #191 lawhawk

They’re plants.

Just watch, that’s how this will get spun. We’ve seen that at other town hall settings in the past.

Every question is a gotcha question when Trump doesn’t have a credible answer and has to bulkshit his way with empty platitudes and nonsensical ramblings that don’t actually answer the question asked.

that was implied on Fox…all DNC plants

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:22:31am

Boy in the Bubble…

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:24:06am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

Let’s be optimistic and say there are only about 75,000,000 of them. Once the asshole is gone, what do we do about them?

Re-education camps?

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:24:10am

About ‘Despacito’:

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:24:49am

re: #194 The Pie Overlord!

Boy in the Bubble…

[Embedded content]

Good Morning Lizards.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:25:21am

Bobcat fire on MODIS 9/16

You can see how the observatory is under threat. The nearest red square is probably a backfire to hold the wildfire at bay. Gotta say I miss visiting the Cosmic Cafe for lunch after a hike up there.

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:26:15am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that was implied on Fox…all DNC plants

So?
WTF does it matter if it was Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff (or Hillary Clinton) asking the questions: the issue should focus on Trump’s answers - or the lack of them/mendacity of the responses.
But of course, Fox, so there we are….

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:28:38am

re: #199 Jay C

So?
WTF does it matter if it was Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Adam Schiff (or Hillary Clinton) asking the questions: the issue should focus on Trump’s answers - or the lack of them/mendacity of the responses.
But of course, Fox, so there we are….

questions should be tailored to the president’s ability to answer so he isnt made to look bad

its unfair to ask questions the president cant answer no matter how little education or competence he has //

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:29:09am

re: #195 Shropshire Slasher

Re-education camps?

Brigades of highly-trained stand-up comics. You think I’m joking.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:29:13am

Meanwhile, prep continues for the VP debate

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:29:33am
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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:31:06am

re: #195 Shropshire Slasher

Re-education camps?

Cult deprogramming. Or, just don’t work in government. Sell survival seeds or pillows for all I care.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:31:18am

re: #203 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

But that just wouldn’t be the Republican thing to do.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:31:23am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:34:15am

re: #206 Belafon

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He’s okay with police brutality. He says it every time he talks about this.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:35:44am

re: #194 The Pie Overlord!

Boy in the Bubble…

[Embedded content]

On one hand I have to question these undecideds. Those questions sound intelligent. How can they be undecideds?

On the other hand, we’ve shown how stupid we’ve become.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:37:46am

re: #202 The Pie Overlord!

Meanwhile, prep continues for the VP debate

[Embedded content]

OMG 😳

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:40:02am

re: #207 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s okay with police brutality. He says it every time he talks about this.

He’s ok with violence across the board. As long as it’s directed to the “right people”

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:40:41am

re: #203 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

[Embedded content]

or 2: release the healthcare (kraken)
or 3: endorse universal mask usage (never happen — too much cognitive dissonance )

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:41:45am

re: #206 Belafon

[Embedded content]

it’s all about power
who has it
who uses it

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:42:59am

re: #203 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

[Embedded content]

Look for him to announce stimulus checks late October to be mailed out Nov. 4 if he’s reelected. And yes, I mean he’ll say exactly that. Reelect me and I’ll send you money.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:43:36am

re: #140 BigPapa

Ostracism. I equate Trumpers with Q-cumbers: they only differ in levels of hate and delusion. No access to levers of power.

They can live the rest of their lives in peace dancing with snakes for all I care.

Works if you live in an area of majority non-Trumpers; where I live not so much.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:43:47am
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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:43:57am

re: #206 Belafon

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There must be a lot of talk about retribution going on in the White House for it to sick in Trump’s swiss cheese like mind.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:45:21am

re: #216 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

There must be a lot of talk about retribution going on in the White House for it to sick in Trump’s swiss cheese like mind.

Or he’s like the scorpion, it’s just his nature.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:46:15am

re: #207 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s okay with police brutality. He says it every time he talks about this.

I wonder what he’d say if a black cop roughed up a white dude in a MAGA hat…

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:46:23am

Oh, now he’s blaming the Democrats for his own (& GOP) refusal to give out a stimulus.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:47:49am

re: #219 The Pie Overlord!

Democrats passed a bill to give people stimulus BACK IN MAY, you incorrigible horses ass.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:48:32am

re: #219 The Pie Overlord!

Oh, now he’s blaming the Democrats for his own (& GOP) refusal to give out a stimulus.

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The sentence structure is even more incoherent than usual.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:49:45am

re: #217 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Or he’s like the scorpion, it’s just his nature.

I meant the word itself. Seems like a $5 word coming from a $.05 mind.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:51:51am

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

Democrats passed a bill to give people stimulus BACK IN MAY, you incorrigible horses ass.

How are you holding up with the hurricane this morning? I hope everything is alright for you.

I just got a call from the Mercedes-Benz dealer in Westminster, Colorado. They’ve received the paperwork for my application for new keys for my car. You have to pay for those in advance, so that’s why they were calling.

I added four hubcaps and the ventilator grille on the hood, since those were damaged in last summer’s softball-size hailstorm.

The keys should come in to be programmed in about two weeks. They’ll call when the keys come in so we can make an appointment and rent a motel room. (The maintenance doesn’t take very long, but the drive is four or five hours one way.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:53:20am

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Worst of it hit well east of here. We didn’t even lose power. Got a few downed tree limbs in the yard but that’s about it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:57:16am
LINCOLN — Nebraska football is back on for the fall after the Big Ten Council of Presidents and Chancellors voted to restart the season with a target date of Oct. 24, the conference announced Wednesday morning.

The announcement was telegraphed by Nebraska President Ted Carter, who was overheard on an open microphone Tuesday morning saying the decision would be revealed later in the day. It wasn’t; instead, the league waited one more day, and the oft-quoted target date of Oct. 17 was moved back one week.

The decision comes roughly one month after the same Big Ten council voted 11-3 to postpone all fall sports, including football. At the time of the decision, Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren cited too many medical uncertainties and the amateur status of student-athletes as driving factors. Shortly after the Big Ten voted to postpone in August, the Pac-12 followed suit.

(more at the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

starherald.com

Amongst other things, that gets the Big Ten out of the Nebraska state lawsuit against them. (Our tax dollars at work.) That lawsuit claims that the decision-making process was secretive, violating Nebraska non-profit laws. The state attorney general in state court hit the Big Ten with a subpoena requiring all notes, minutes, medical advice, E-mails, and a timeline of the decision-making process.

The state took over the suit from two students who argued the Big Ten was damaging their prospect in football.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:57:45am

re: #222 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I meant the word itself. Seems like a $5 word coming from a $.05 mind.

While I totally get where you’re coming from, I think that’s a word that’s neat and dear to him. It’s a very mobbed up kinda thing.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:58:25am

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How are you holding up with the hurricane this morning? I hope everything is alright for you.

I just got a call from the Mercedes-Benz dealer in Westminster, Colorado. They’ve received the paperwork for my application for new keys for my car. You have to pay for those in advance, so that’s why they were calling.

I added four hubcaps and the ventilator grille on the hood, since those were damaged in last summer’s softball-size hailstorm.

The keys should come in to be programmed in about two weeks. They’ll call when the keys come in so we can make an appointment and rent a motel room. (The maintenance doesn’t take very long, but the drive is four or five hours one way.)

I thought you were going to get a new car?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:58:46am

re: #85 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You just need to rake the river beds, clearly.////

Shop vac them

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nines09  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:58:50am

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 7:59:21am

re: #213 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Look for him to announce stimulus checks late October to be mailed out Nov. 4 if he’s reelected. And yes, I mean he’ll say exactly that. Reelect me and I’ll send you money.

his ‘fica payroll tax cut’ is already an attempt to bribe people with their own money

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:01:44am

re: #219 The Pie Overlord!

Oh, now he’s blaming the Democrats for his own (& GOP) refusal to give out a stimulus.

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HEROES act
passed by the democratic house
MAY 2020
(guess who voted against it)

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:02:02am

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

Democrats passed a bill to give people stimulus BACK IN MAY, you incorrigible horses ass.

ah
gmta
one whole entry down…

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:02:23am

re: #216 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

There must be a lot of talk about retribution going on in the White House for it to sick in Trump’s swiss cheese like mind.

Miller whispering in his ear.

Also, this…

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:03:19am

re: #230 dangerman

his ‘fica payroll tax cut’ is already an attempt to bribe people with their own money

Except it doesn’t seem anyone is taking that bait. I read somewhere yesterday that the Senate and House have indicated they’re opting out.

Also, I would fully expect him to blame someone else when the stimulus checks do not actually happen.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:04:08am

re: #229 nines09

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breathe….

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:05:02am

re: #231 dangerman

HEROES act
passed by the democratic house
MAY 2020
(guess who voted against it)

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Guess who won’t even let the Senate vote.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:06:12am

re: #233 makeitstop

Miller whispering in his ear.

Also, this…

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Ah yes, Miller. Most times I forget about him as he keeps a low profile slithering around the West Wing.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:07:49am

re: #234 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Except it doesn’t seem anyone is taking that bait. I read some where yesterday that the Senate and House have indicated they’re opting out.

Also, I would fully expect him to blame someone else when the stimulus checks do not actually happen.

most corporate america wont touch it
the military is stuck as are i guess most federal workers

meanwhile CNBC

Lawmakers are now pushing the federal government to allow their employees to choose whether they want to participate.

“We urge you to let federal workers and uniformed service members choose whether to defer their payroll tax obligations under IRS Notice 2020-65, rather than forcing them to participate,” wrote Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., in a Sept. 8 letter to Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Office of Management and Budget director Russell Vought.

“While some federal employees may want to defer their payroll tax payments, unions representing federal workers have made clear that many others do not,” he wrote.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:08:41am

re: #229 nines09

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Interesting Times  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:08:53am

re: #208 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

On one hand I have to question these undecideds. Those questions sound intelligent. How can they be undecideds?

a) They’re not, and just claimed they were so they could participate in the town hall (after all, if they posted nothing political on social media or left any other sort of trail, how could you prove where they stood?)

b) The ones who asked intelligent questions aren’t undecided between Biden and trump, but between voting and not voting (or going 3rd-party).

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Kilroy was here  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:10:27am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:13:12am

re: #213 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Look for him to announce stimulus checks late October to be mailed out Nov. 4 if he’s reelected. And yes, I mean he’ll say exactly that. Reelect me and I’ll send you money.

Seems very Trump-esque but could he really do this WITHOUT the House needing to be involved in some way?

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:13:14am

re: #240 Interesting Times

re: #208 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

On one hand I have to question these undecideds. Those questions sound intelligent. How can they be undecideds?

a) They’re not, and just claimed they were so they could participate in the town hall (after all, if they posted nothing political on social media or left any other sort of trail, how could you prove where they stood?)

b) The ones who asked intelligent questions aren’t undecided between Biden and trump, but between voting and not voting (or going 3rd-party).

a) Good question: I wonder what criteria ABC actually used to select those “undecided” questioners?

b) If they asked intelligent questions, it’s probably an indicator right there that they aren’t likely to vote for The Orange Anus….

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:13:27am

re: #178 lawhawk

No, the IRS lacks resources to investigate exhaustively, but they do have computer systems that can look for things that are out of sorts. Trump’s admitted that he’s been under audit for years, which does indicate that the IRS has been scrutinizing his returns for a long time. That’s the excuse he’s given for not releasing his returns. They see that he’s not doing something right, so he’s probably trying to negotiate lower tax bill while the IRS is finding a much higher tax obligation.

Would a release of tax returns show losing an audit and having to pay? That may be what he is hiding.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:13:54am

re: #227 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I thought you were going to get a new car?

My wife is looking around for one on-line. There’s nothing she’s really settled on yet.

I also suggested getting a 2017 Smart (the last year they sold gasoline models in the USA).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:15:41am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

Seems very Trump-esque but could he really do this WITHOUT the House needing to be involved in some way?

All it takes to maintain his grip on the conservative faithful is to make the announcement. He doesn’t actually have to deliver on the promise.

The faithful have already shown they only care about the one promise he has delivered on: Racism.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:15:48am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

Seems very Trump-esque but could he really do this WITHOUT the House needing to be involved in some way?

Actually sending the money - yes

Making the announcement - no

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:18:54am

Donald Trump endorses Jim Cramer.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:20:11am
Smoke from Western wildfires might be more noticeable in Nebraska on Wednesday, and the air quality could possibly be affected in the western two-thirds of the state.

The National Weather Service is advising residents in south-central and western Nebraska to pay attention to air quality Wednesday in case the wildfire smoke gets thick enough to cause respiratory issues.

Phil Beda, meteorologist for the weather service in Hastings, said an arriving cold front could contribute to a greater concentration of smoke at ground level Wednesday. He cautioned that there’s a lot of uncertainty surrounding whether smoke will be a problem in Nebraska but said the weather service wanted to provide a heads-up.

starherald.com

AQI in Scottsbluff is currently 71.
airnow.gov

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:20:57am

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

Donald Trump endorses Jim Cramer.

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Just another thing he sticks his orange dick into.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:22:15am

re: #113 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

It’s a cool, cloudy morning, and the air quality index is TWELVE!

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Kilroy was here  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:22:57am

Yah.. only unhealthy!

airnow.gov

The dog really really wants to go for a walk.. She’ll have to wait a bit longer.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:24:15am

re: #252 Kilroy was here

Yah.. only unhealthy!

airnow.gov

The dog really really wants to go for a walk.. She’ll have to wait a bit longer.

We’re at 150 this morning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:25:49am

Referring to someone as “crazy” is one thing, saying it to their face is another

Trump has no use for these distinction nor for any other standards of Human Decency.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:26:51am

re: #253 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

We’re at 150 this morning.

Show off!
/s

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A Cranky One  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:27:24am

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:29:10am

re: #254 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Referring to someone as “crazy” is one thing, saying it to their face is another

Trump has no use for these distinction nor for any other standards of Human Decency.

And saying it to their face on national TV to score points with a sociopathic president is despicable.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:30:37am

re: #245 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife is looking around for one on-line. There’s nothing she’s really settled on yet.

I also suggested getting a 2017 Smart (the last year they sold gasoline models in the USA).

Work gave me a 2020 Toyota Prius Prime. You can plug it in on 115v power and you’ll get 25 miles on a full charge in 7 hours. (2.5 hours on 220v). It’s really a nice drive, and handles very well. Most importantly it has adaptive cruise control and OH SHIT! braking. My $.02.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:31:03am

Yes, please allow RBG to stay safely ensconced in her cocoon of hand sanitizer.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:31:37am

re: #257 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

And saying it to their face on national TV to score points with a sociopathic president is despicable.

All these people who think they can get away with the shit trump does are going to find out they’re not trump.

And that trump gets away with all of it, that’s despicable enough, but the others? They’re not Teflon Don.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:31:46am

re: #234 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Except it doesn’t seem anyone is taking that bait. I read somewhere yesterday that the Senate and House have indicated they’re opting out.

Also, I would fully expect him to blame someone else when the stimulus checks do not actually happen.

Federal employees can’t opt out. And while it wont happen to me, some of my coworkers (specifically, my newly minted mentee) who are just starting their lives will be hit with this attempted bribe. She’s not happy.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:33:08am

re: #258 Shropshire Slasher

Work gave me a 2020 Toyota Prius Prime. You can plug it in on 115v power and you’ll get 25 miles on a full charge in 7 hours. (2.5 hours on 220v). It’s really a nice drive, and handles very well. Most importantly it has adaptive cruise control and OH SHIT! braking. My $.02.

You have to plug it in for 7 hours to go 25 miles? Did I misread that? It’s it a hybrid? It has to be. 25 miles is nothing.

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jimmyvluv4u  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:33:20am

re: #261 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I have first-hand knowledge that the House is not doing the FICA deferral (for staff), and while the Senate has not formally decided AFAIK, it looks very unlikely.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:33:25am

re: #238 dangerman

Didn’t know this was happening. Last I heard, it was all feds below a certain pay level.

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jimmyvluv4u  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:34:31am

re: #264 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The legislative branch (including House/Senate staff) operates separately from the executive and the GS system and are not beholden to this.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:34:39am

re: #256 A Cranky One

So me these days.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:34:41am

re: #147 dangerman

Meanwhile trump just inoculated Joe against any future accidental slip of the tongue.
Anyone piles onto Joe for an obvious misspeak…just respond with two words “herd mentality”

“Why do all of you reporters keep asking me that question? Sounds to me like herd mentality.”

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:34:50am

re: #260 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

All these people who think they can get away with the shit trump does are going to find out they’re not trump.

And that trump gets away with all of it, that’s despicable enough, but the others? They’re not Teflon Don.

Exactly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:36:39am

You think RBG will retire if Biden becomes President and Dems get control of the Senate?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:37:24am

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

You think RBG will retire if Biden becomes President and Dems get control of the Senate?

Absolutely.

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:38:06am

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

You think RBG will retire if Biden becomes President and Dems get control of the Senate?

I don’t think RBG is interested in retirement (otherwise she could have retired in 2015). Not to be macabre, but I think she goes out the other way.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:39:02am

re: #262 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

You have to plug it in for 7 hours to go 25 miles? Did I misread that? It’s it a hybrid? It has to be. 25 miles is nothing.

It’s gas/electric. I don’t plug it in and I get 62 mpg. The electric motor is far superior to gas.
Yes, seven hours at 115v.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:39:31am

re: #271 KGxvi

I don’t think RBG is interested in retirement (otherwise she could have retired in 2015). Not to be macabre, but I think she goes out the other way.

5 years is a long time and address had some serious health issues. I think if Biden wins she’ll retire within a year.

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Charmingly Persistent  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:40:12am

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

You think RBG will retire if Biden becomes President and Dems get control of the Senate?

I think she will retire effective when her replacement is confirmed.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:40:14am

re: #271 KGxvi

I don’t think RBG is interested in retirement (otherwise she could have retired in 2015). Not to be macabre, but I think she goes out the other way.

I’m hoping she’ll reconsider with her health issues, but I suspect we’ll all be holding our breath in 2024 in hopes that Democrats get reelected if she dies afterwards.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:40:15am

re: #249 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Smoke from Western wildfires might be more noticeable …

Wife just told me that the haze we’re getting here (Maryland) is from the fires being carried by the Jetstream. It’s supposedly >25k feet, so no AQI issues, but WOW.

Smoke from Western wildfires might be more noticeable

Glancing skyward into a milky-orange haze, you may be noticing a dimmed sun in our skies. That haze is from the massive Western wildfires. It’s just a very small taste of what California, Oregon and Washington state have been dealing with.

Carried along by the jet stream, the swift river of winds about 20,000 to 30,000 feet aloft, the thick smoke arrived Monday on the East Coast, including the D.C. area. It will stick around through at least Thursday. While it promises more surreal skies, effects on the ground are expected to be minimal.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:40:46am

re: #272 Shropshire Slasher

It’s gas/electric. I don’t plug it in and I get 62 mpg. The electric motor is far superior to gas.
Yes, seven hours at 115v.

Ah. Thanks.

FWIW, I rented a Prius on a business trip and it was one of my all time favorite rentals. More room than a Smart and way better gas mileage.

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:41:20am

I’ll add, the more interesting potential retirement is Thomas. He’s the senior justice on the Court at this point, and I remember hearing 15 years ago that he didn’t really like the job. I’m actually slightly surprised that he hasn’t retired yet.

Also, figure that Breyer will be the first to announce a retirement in 2021 if Biden wins. He’s 82 and has been on the Court since 1994 (second oldest justice and third in seniority).

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:42:20am

re: #269 Eclectic Cyborg

You think RBG will retire if Biden becomes President and Dems get control of the Senate?

In a New York minute: it seems to be generally accepted that she’s only hanging on to keep the seat out of the hands of ANY Trump nominee.

Madam Justice Ginsberg will be 88 years old in March, and is in fairly poor health. She deserves a quite and respected retirement: and will hopefully live long enough to see her SCOTUS seat filled by a judge worthy of the honor.*

*Which, of course, would rule out anyone Trump/The GOP would pick.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:42:26am

re: #118 lawhawk

Ah, the rarely spotted deer bird taking flight in the background.

Hasn’t been spotted since it was young

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:42:57am

re: #271 KGxvi

I don’t think RBG is interested in retirement (otherwise she could have retired in 2015). Not to be macabre, but I think she goes out the other way.

Smoking cigars and gluttony at a posh hunting lodge?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:43:01am

re: #265 jimmyvluv4u

The legislative branch (including House/Senate staff) operates separately from the executive and the GS system and are not beholden to this.

Guess I’m not surprised that the legislative branch operates pay independently from the executive branch. Fuck trump.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:43:56am

re: #273 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

5 years is a long time and address had some serious health issues. I think if Biden wins she’ll retire within a year.

I was typing up a similar comment, but you beat me to it. The only thing that might make her stick it out a little longer is if Dems don’t get control of the Senate in 2020.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:44:15am

re: #119 Shropshire Slasher

nypost.com

Too bad we don’t know what tRump talked to Vlad or Kim about during their discussions.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:44:44am

re: #173 BigPapa

Yah, we’re all having parallel conversations. Trumpers and Trumpism will be here long after he’s gone, but they were here before Trump. We just called them wingnuts, Tea Partiers, etc. The judiciary is horribly poisoned and weakened. It’s going to take years to undo the damage, at best.

Some of the judges should be challenged with impeachment. The ones with no experience should be easy pickings.

Are incompetence and ignorance grounds for impeachment? Doesn’t seem like those are covered under “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”. Constitution also specifies that judges hold their office “during good Behaviour” and again those don’t reflect on behavior, do they?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:44:47am

Heh. Sally’s center is ashore now, and it’s swinging back around to pass us tonight from the West. Clever girl.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:45:35am

re: #278 KGxvi

I’ll add, the more interesting potential retirement is Thomas. He’s the senior justice on the Court at this point, and I remember hearing 15 years ago that he didn’t really like the job. I’m actually slightly surprised that he hasn’t retired yet.

Also, figure that Breyer will be the first to announce a retirement in 2021 if Biden wins. He’s 82 and has been on the Court since 1994 (second oldest justice and third in seniority).

I’ve never thought Thomas was good a hiding the fact that he doesn’t like doing the job.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:46:29am

re: #287 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I’ve never thought Thomas was good a hiding the fact that he doesn’t like doing the job.

If he doesn’t retire right away if trump loses he won’t at all if Biden does.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:47:30am

re: #285 Hecuba’s daughter

Are incompetence and ignorance grounds for impeachment? Doesn’t seem like those are covered under “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”. Constitution also specifies that judges hold their office “during good Behaviour” and again those don’t reflect on behavior, do they?

I’d be watching any livestock in the reach of a Trump judicial appointee.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:48:09am

re: #288 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If he doesn’t retire right away if trump loses he won’t at all if Biden does.

He could retire on Nov. 4 after Trump loses, and we’ll all be treated to Mitch’s hypocrisy on confirming Supreme Court justices one more time.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:49:00am

re: #290 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

He could retire on Nov. 4 after Trump loses, and we’ll all be treated to Mitch’s hypocrisy on confirming Supreme Court justices one more time.

Yuppers. Exactly.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:49:59am

re: #290 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

re: #291 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

If Mitch is Majority Leader.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:50:41am

re: #258 Shropshire Slasher

Work gave me a 2020 Toyota Prius Prime. You can plug it in on 115v power and you’ll get 25 miles on a full charge in 7 hours. (2.5 hours on 220v). It’s really a nice drive, and handles very well. Most importantly it has adaptive cruise control and OH SHIT! braking. My $.02.

Twenty-five miles will get me to the county seat (but not home again).

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:51:04am

re: #292 Decatur Deb

If Mitch is Majority Leader.

He will be until the beginning of January.

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:51:31am

re: #287 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I’ve never been one to get on Thomas for not asking a lot of questions at oral arguments. I think a lot of the questioning is more for show than for anything else. Lots of judges at the lower appellate levels don’t ask many questions either. At the Supreme Court level you typically have a solid record, briefing from both parties at the trial, Circuit Court, and Supreme Court, plus (on the bigger issues) plenty of amicus briefs to really get to the heart of the issues.

And his jurisprudence, whether you agree with it or not, has been fairly consistent through his career. He was always more interested in the process and less interested in the outcome, than say, Scalia (who had a tendency to search out a reasoning that fit the outcome he wanted). The flaw in Thomas’s jurisprudence is that it wants to operate on a pre-industrial (and arguably pre-modern) world view.

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:52:12am

re: #278 KGxvi

I’ll add, the more interesting potential retirement is Thomas. He’s the senior justice on the Court at this point, and I remember hearing 15 years ago that he didn’t really like the job. I’m actually slightly surprised that he hasn’t retired yet.

Also, figure that Breyer will be the first to announce a retirement in 2021 if Biden wins. He’s 82 and has been on the Court since 1994 (second oldest justice and third in seniority).

Agree about Breyer (within a year or two, maybe), but disagree about Thomas: however much he doesn’t like the job, he (and Alito) will probably hang on til they croak just to “own the libs” and “spite the Dems”.
It’s interesting, though, that a Biden Administration might get to name as many as three SCOTUS Justices.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:52:34am

re: #290 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

He could retire on Nov. 4 after Trump loses, and we’ll all be treated to Mitch’s hypocrisy on confirming Supreme Court justices one more time.

McConnell: The president has the right to replace a Supreme Court Justice during his term.
Us: But what about the will of the voters? The incoming Senate is going to be controlled by Democrats.
McConnell: Yes, but had they wanted to stop this appointment, they would have voted for Democrats in 2018.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:53:35am

re: #297 Belafon

McConnell: The president has the right to replace a Supreme Court Justice during his term.
Us: But what about the will of the voters? The incoming Senate is going to be controlled by Democrats.
McConnell: Yes, but had they wanted to stop this appointment, they would have voted for Democrats in 2018.

Us: Your mother breeds out-of-season.

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:53:43am

re: #285 Hecuba’s daughter

Are incompetence and ignorance grounds for impeachment? Doesn’t seem like those are covered under “Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”. Constitution also specifies that judges hold their office “during good Behaviour” and again those don’t reflect on behavior, do they?

There have been judges impeached for public drunkenness.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:54:02am

re: #297 Belafon

McConnell: The president has the right to replace a Supreme Court Justice during his term.
Us: But what about the will of the voters? The incoming Senate is going to be controlled by Democrats.
McConnell: Yes, but had they wanted to stop this appointment, they would have voted for Democrats in 2018.

Merrick Garland could not be reached for comment.

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stpaulbear  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:54:17am

re: #203 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

When the only tool you have is an ‘own’, every problem looks like a ‘lib’.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:54:49am

re: #299 KGxvi

There have been judges impeached for public drunkenness.

So there’s hope that Kavanaugh could get the boot?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:55:16am

re: #129 Decatur Deb

Let’s be optimistic and say there are only about 75,000,000 of them. Once the asshole is gone, what do we do about them?

It’s not the 75 million you need to worry about, it’s the four to seven million who actively promulgate this stuff to the willing masses. Followers will follow where the leaders lead.

I don’t know what to do about them either, but at least that focuses the problem.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:56:22am

The shyteshow which is the state suing the Big Ten here, that the Big Ten tried to get out of, has failed.

Conservatism works as long as there is a treasury to spend money from, so the suit continues.

Three Nebraska attorneys on Monday questioned whether the state’s attorney general has the authority to order the Big Ten to give him extensive documentation on how it decided to postpone the fall football season.

Nebraska Attorney General Doug Peterson last week told Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren that the Big Ten appears to be out of compliance with Nebraska’s nonprofit corporation laws.

Peterson asked Warren and the Big Ten to turn over to him a wide range of documentation on the unpopular football decision, which has led to widespread criticism of the conference and a lawsuit filed against it by some Husker football players.

But Jeff Kirkpatrick, former city attorney for Lincoln, said the Big Ten “seemed to me to be an odd nonprofit for the attorney general of Nebraska to pick on all of a sudden. … from the standpoint of not having jurisdiction.”

Illinois, where the Big Ten is based, would be in a better position to pursue the matter, Kirkpatrick said. He said he agreed with Peterson that “transparency’s a good thing,” but “whether or not he has a legal right (to the information), I don’t know if he does.”

Kirkpatrick said Peterson “certainly has a right to ask” for that information. “I was puzzled by it just because I don’t see what jurisdiction he has.”

(more)

Attorneys question whether Nebraska AG has power to demand Big Ten records (Scottsbluff Star-Herald)

At the same time, things are moving toward a lawsuit over the trustee board of the Lottery conservation trust fund (over which I wrote a letter to the paper), after Pete Ricketts is alleged to have a) ousted a board member because that member did not support him on property tax reductions (which have nothing to do with the lottery) and b) allegedly met with a group which did not meet state law requirements for a quorum.

The governor wanted the money reprogrammed from wetlands conservation and other such projects to purchasing ethanol blender pumps for commercial gasoline stations.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:57:20am

re: #303 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

It’s not the 75 million you need to worry about, it’s the four to seven million who actively promulgate this stuff to the willing masses. Followers will follow where the leaders lead.

I don’t know what to do about them either, but at least that focuses the problem.

There’s a lot more than that who think the thought but lack the eloquence. We walk among them.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 8:59:52am

re: #303 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

It’s not the 75 million you need to worry about, it’s the four to seven million who actively promulgate this stuff to the willing masses. Followers will follow where the leaders lead.

I don’t know what to do about them either, but at least that focuses the problem.

Your comment made me think about Rush Limbaugh, as in many of them will go back to listening to Rushbo and bitching at the local watering hole. Then I thought, cancer is taking it’s sweet time with Rush Limbaugh. Perhaps, the cancer gods are telling us that we can have RGB but have to take Rush too.

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:01:28am

re: #296 Jay C

Agree about Breyer (within a year or two, maybe), but disagree about Thomas: however much he doesn’t like the job, he (and Alito) will probably hang on til they croak just to “own the libs” and “spite the Dems”.
It’s interesting, though, that a Biden Administration might get to name as many as three SCOTUS Justices.

Three would be the most since Reagan (who had 3 appointments, but technically gets counted as 4 because he elevated Rehnquist to Chief). Every president since has gotten 2 appointments.

The weird thing is that the three senior justices all have over 26 years on the Court. Then there is an 11 year gap between Breyer and Roberts (who will hit 15 years in about two weeks).

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:02:09am

re: #175 dangerman

Yes there’s no sol on fraud
I was implying the otherwise normal sol on the returns, absent fraud

I don’t know that Cohen was referring to
Maybe he’ll clarify

The irs doesn’t look at everything exhaustively.. they couldn’t possibly

I’m still just guessing

The IRS doesn’t like looking into complicated returns. It takes too long to investigate and they don’t have the real expertise needed to do a thorough investigation. They uncover those who make obvious errors in their taxes. Leona Helmsley had decades worth of tax evasion. Back in the day of open outcry, many of those who made their money in the pits of the CBOT never declared their income since there were no records on these transactions sent to the IRS.

Trump’s fear is the high priced experts at universities and accounting or legal firm who would take pleasure in doing the detailed work that is outside the capability of IRS employees. Just a reminder of what I posted a few days ago from Cohen’s book:

I remember sitting in Trump’s office on the 26th floor when a tax refund check for $10 million from the government arrived. He held the check up for me to see, flabbergasted but also delighted.

“Can you believe how fucking stupid the IRS is?” Trump asked. “Who would give me a refund of ten fucking million dollars? They are so stupid!”

The IRS is only good at using computer systems to match officially reported income. Anything else, and it’s beyond their capabilities. They need to go into the Trump organization, tear apart the offices, review every invoice and every document, and subpoena the attorneys and accountants who work for them. But, again, this is outside their expertise. The real looters in our city are the white collar criminals who are robbing us blind, and little is done to curb their actions.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:02:35am

There’s always a tweet video clip…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:03:33am

re: #306 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Your comment made me think about Rush Limbaugh, as in many of them will go back to listening to Rushbo and bitching at the local watering hole. Then I thought, cancer is taking it’s sweet time with Rush Limbaugh. Perhaps, the cancer gods are telling us that we can have RGB but have to take Rush too.

Or maybe Rush Limbaugh is simply lying about cancer to get sympathy. Is there any other source for that than him saying it?

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:09:43am

re: #310 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Or maybe Rush Limbaugh is simply lying about cancer to get sympathy. Is there any other source for that than him saying it?

I did a little poking around the internet and everything is him saying it, but unless he authorizes a doctor to disclose, who else would say anything.

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:11:49am

re: #311 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I did a little poking around the internet and everything is him saying it, but unless he authorizes a doctor to disclose, who else would say anything.

Well, to judge by recent pictures of Limbaugh, the “cancer” diagnosis doesn’t seem like too-far-fetched a scenario: for a guy who has been a fat slob pig for most of his life, he’s been looking positively gaunt of late.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:13:31am

re: #312 Jay C

Well, to judge by recent pictures of Limbaugh, the “cancer” diagnosis doesn’t seem like too-far-fetched a scenario: for a guy who has been a fat slob pig for most of his life, he’s been looking positively gaunt of late.

I saw an article in USA today where he told his radio listeners that he doesn’t want to be a cancer patient on the radio and he wasn’t going to say much other than the treatment is kicking his ass.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:14:16am

2020 continues to deliver.

Nebraska records first case of West Nile virus this year (Omaha World-Herald)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:14:31am

Lre: #312 Jay C

Well, to judge by recent pictures of Limbaugh, the “cancer” diagnosis doesn’t seem like too-far-fetched a scenario: for a guy who has been a fat slob pig for most of his life, he’s been looking positively gaunt of late.

I have no idea but he’s not in my thoughts or prayers.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:16:47am

re: #302 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

So there’s hope that Kavanaugh could get the boot?

If only.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:17:48am

re: #314 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

2020 continues to deliver.

Nebraska records first case of West Nile virus this year (Omaha World-Herald)

“In 2016, you had a chance to elect people would would be solving problems and making your lives better. You didn’t elect those people, so you get all the plagues at once.” - God

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:19:54am

The lady who was communications director for the Ted Cruz for POTUS campaign is telling CNN readers there should be a Joe Rogan debate.

cnn.com

How can voters make an informed decision without having seen the candidates debate the issues face to face? You don’t buy a car without kicking the tires and taking it for a test drive, how can you choose a president without a proper evaluation? It doesn’t make sense.

The Presidential debates are just like kicking the tires when shopping for a new car. Kicking the tires tells you nothing about a car and you are only doing it because someone told you that you should for some reason.

It’s the all-important Independents and undecided voters that count.
My hope is that they fully educate themselves on the candidates before they cast their ballot. The best electorate is an informed electorate.

If there are uniformed voters out there, at this point I don’t want a debate to decide who they vote for because that would be lazy, stupid and irresponsible. Time to grow up and just do away with the damn debates anyways, it is just a circus at this point.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:20:40am

This right here is why anti-maskers and covid deniers make me so damn angry.

(CNN) A wedding in Maine is linked to 176 Covid-19 cases and the deaths of seven people who didn’t attend the celebration, demonstrating just how easily and quickly the virus can spread at social gatherings, public health experts say.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:21:42am

re: #305 Decatur Deb

There’s a lot more than that who think the thought but lack the eloquence. We walk among them.

But IMO, they think the thought only because someone put it into their minds. Stop the spreader and you’ll stop the disease. (And other spreaders will come along, and you’ll have to stop them. But we already knew it was never going to end.)

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:22:10am

re: #318 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

If there are uniformed voters out there, at this point I don’t want a debate to decide who they vote for because that would be lazy, stupid and irresponsible. Time to grow up and just do away with the damn debates anyways, it is just a circus at this point.

They aren’t really debates and are used as soundbite generators.

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:22:12am

re: #318 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

The lady who was communications director for the Ted Cruz for POTUS campaign is telling CNN readers there should be a Joe Rogan debate.

cnn.com

The Presidential debates are just like kicking the tires when shopping for a new car. Kicking the tires tells you nothing about a car and you are only doing it because someone told you that you should for some reason.

If there are uniformed voters out there, at this point I don’t want a debate to decide who they vote for because that would be lazy, stupid and irresponsible. Time to grow up and just do away with the damn debates anyways, it is just a circus at this point.

Can we kick the Republican? It’s a search for evidence of humanity.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:22:36am

re: #306 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Your comment made me think about Rush Limbaugh, as in many of them will go back to listening to Rushbo and bitching at the local watering hole. Then I thought, cancer is taking it’s sweet time with Rush Limbaugh. Perhaps, the cancer gods are telling us that we can have RGB but have to take Rush too.

Or he never really had it and was lying to gain sympathy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:23:56am

re: #318 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

The lady who was communications director for the Ted Cruz for POTUS campaign is telling CNN readers there should be a Joe Rogan debate.

cnn.com

The Presidential debates are just like kicking the tires when shopping for a new car. Kicking the tires tells you nothing about a car and you are only doing it because someone told you that you should for some reason.

If there are uniformed voters out there, at this point I don’t want a debate to decide who they vote for because that would be lazy, stupid and irresponsible. Time to grow up and just do away with the damn debates anyways, it is just a circus at this point.

I’d take Wolf Blitzer moderating over Rogan. Rogan will want to make himself part of the debate and that’s not what it’s about. It’s also why the late Jim Lehrer was so good. I still don’t know who he liked and who he didn’t and that’s a good thing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:24:32am

National Hurricane Center Five-Day Outlook

There is no safe place in the Atlantic Basin.

Hurricane Paulette has been downgraded to an extra-tropical storm, with 75 knot winds. Hurricane Teddy is moving in the general direction of Bermuda.
The wave in the far northeast Atlantic is being tracked by Météo-France.
The wave in the Bay of Campeche is strengthening, as is the wave in the eastern Atlantic.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:24:52am

The mockery for the ‘herd mentality’ quote might bother him a little, but this is going to bother him a lot.

I see more superspreader events on the horizon to assuage his fee-fees.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:25:55am

re: #326 makeitstop

The mockery for the ‘herd mentality’ quote might bother him a little, but this is going to bother him a lot.

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I see more superspreader events on the horizon to assuage his fee-fees.

So the Trump show was only the third highest rated reality show last night.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:26:00am

re: #326 makeitstop

The mockery for the ‘herd mentality’ quote might bother him a little, but this is going to bother him a lot.

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I see more superspreader events on the horizon to assuage his fee-fees.

His ratings SAD!

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:26:29am

re: #302 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

So there’s hope that Kavanaugh could get the boot?

That would be a petty reason. Impeach him for perjury at his confirmation hearings instead.

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Teukka  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:28:03am

And now for something completely different:

On a tangential note, I believe the strong tendency to clamp down on exlaiming The Name in vain is to distract from the true nature of the sin, which is to do bad things in the name of G-d.
Just my .02€ worth.
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Jay C  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:28:52am

re: #327 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

So the Trump show was only the third highest rated reality show last night.

Joe Biden is doing a similar show (?this week, I think?) - I wonder what his ratings will be? And how bitter Trump’s bitching will be if Joe outpulls him….?

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:30:32am

re: #329 William Lewis

That would be a petty reason. Impeach him for perjury at his confirmation hearings instead.

I should have included a snark tag on my comment.

But I wish there would be some investigation into the judiciary. They are not an independent branch of the federal government and should be subject to more rigorous checks and balances. It’s a pipe dream, but Republicans have broken our government and unprecedented steps are needed to fix it.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:31:58am

re: #330 Teukka

And now for something completely different:

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On a tangential note, I believe the strong tendency to clamp down on exlaiming The Name in vain is to distract from the true nature of the sin, which is to do bad things in the name of G-d.
Just my .02€ worth.

I can sort of understand the origin, since “God damn it” sounds like you have the authority to ask God to do something, which would violate the commandment. But as with “a few bad apples”, its meaning has been perverted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:32:31am

re: #330 Teukka

And now for something completely different:

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On a tangential note, I believe the strong tendency to clamp down on exlaiming The Name in vain is to distract from the true nature of the sin, which is to do bad things in the name of G-d.
Just my .02€ worth.

Well, I’ll be goddamned.

//

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:33:18am

re: #331 Jay C

Joe Biden is doing a similar show (?this week, I think?) - I wonder what his ratings will be? And how bitter Trump’s bitching will be if Joe outpulls him….?

Joe’s is tomorrow (9/17) at 8pm (east coast time) on CNN.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:33:54am

They did reflect. The state governor said $$$ and the university said “how high?”

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:34:45am

Just imho.
“Herd Mentality” is the Freudian slip of the month.

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:35:15am

re: #330 Teukka

And now for something completely different:

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And of course adding to this is the use mistaken idea of Christ as a name rather than one kind of title (“anointed one”) for the messiah in Greek. Yeshua Ben Yosef just doesn’t roll off the tongues of Anglos very well.

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Teukka  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:35:46am

re: #337 Rightwingconspirator

Just imho.
“Herd Mentality” is the Freudian slip of the month.

You herd it here first :badumtss:

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:35:46am

Oh holy hell.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:36:27am

re: #337 Rightwingconspirator

Just imho.
“Herd Mentality” is the Freudian slip of the month.

It does describe his base

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Teukka  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:36:29am

re: #338 William Lewis

And of course adding to this is the use mistaken idea of Christ as a name rather than one kind of title (“anointed one”) for the messiah in Greek. Yeshua Ben Yosef just doesn’t roll off the tongues of Anglos very well.

Isn’t it “Yeshua Ben Yoshaif” to be technical? Really would get stuck rolling of the tounge of Anglo’s, yeah….

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:38:02am

re: #326 makeitstop

The mockery for the ‘herd mentality’ quote might bother him a little, but this is going to bother him a lot.

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I see more superspreader events on the horizon to assuage his fee-fees.

I will not mock someone for using the wrong word; he has to come up with a term on the spot and doesn’t have the luxury to spend time (or google!) to search for the right word. Most of us have been in situations where we forget a word or a name.

The problem is with his ideas and policies not his verbal miscues. His new coronavirus “expert” Scott Atlas is a proponent of herd immunity in the absence of a vaccine and that is what Trump wants to push. Do you think he cares that millions might die in pursuit of this unobtainable goal? Of course not — as long as he isn’t one of those who perish. And there are too many others who place a fully open economy above life — especially if the victims are the poor, or the working class or people of color. Trumpsters really don’t care about anyone outside their family.

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:39:47am

re: #343 Hecuba’s daughter

Trumpsters really don’t care about anyone outside their family.

Honestly, many of them don’t really seem to care about their families either.

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:40:11am

re: #342 Teukka

Isn’t it “Yeshua Ben Yoshaif” to be technical? Really would get stuck rolling of the tounge of Anglo’s, yeah….

I’ve seen both transliterations. Hebrew to English is not the easiest under any circumstance.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:40:17am

A grand jury in Omaha has handed down a charge of manslaughter for a bar owner in the shooting death of James Scurlock during the BLM protests there.

Originally, the county prosecutor declined to prosecute, citing self-defence. That touched off another round of protests over Mr. Scurlock’s killing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:42:31am

re: #343 Hecuba’s daughter

And that’s why there needs to be an investigation into genocide, and if appropriate, indictments of those involved.

Benghazi got eleven investigations, surely the death of three million people warrants a bit of investigation?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:43:39am

Off to bed. Catch y’all later.

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:44:20am

re: #337 Rightwingconspirator

Just imho.
“Herd Mentality” is the Freudian slip of the month.

This. LOL.

Though one thing I have noticed - consistently thought the Coronavirus pandemic - is that NO ONE seems to want to push back on the use of the term “herd immunity”.

Now I am not an epidemiologist, of course, but it’s my understanding that, strictly, “herd immunity” should (only) apply to the relative level of susceptibility/infection/protection of *unvaccinated* members of a population where the majority (or a certain level) are either vaccinated or otherwise known to be disease-free.

When Trump/Republicans/wingnuts use the term, it seems like what they really mean is “let the disease run rampant, and fuck the consequences - live or die, not my problem”. Am I missing something?

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:45:49am

re: #334 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, I’ll be goddamned.

//

So will Frank. :)

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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:46:02am

I can’t believe you’re forcing me to vote for Trump, which I definitely didn’t already want to do, by Alexandra Petri (parody of a right winger who wrote such a piece a few days ago, but seriously)

Well done! And we need the laugh.

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:48:19am

re: #350 makeitstop

So will Frank. :)

He might have herb mentality immunity.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:48:40am

re: #347 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And that’s why there needs to be an investigation into genocide, and if appropriate, indictments of those involved.

Benghazi got eleven investigations, surely the death of three million people warrants a bit of investigation?

It’s not going to reach that level because many (most?) people are being more cautious in their social interactions. The confirmed 200,000 deaths warrant that investigation — we don’t need the Senate for that, only the House. But there isn’t the time now — maybe right after the election?

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Kamrade Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:49:32am

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:49:46am

re: #349 Jay C

This. LOL.

Though one thing I have noticed - consistently thought the Coronavirus pandemic - is that NO ONE seems to want to push back on the use of the term “herd immunity”.

Now I am not an epidemiologist, of course, but it’s my understanding that, strictly, “herd immunity” should (only) apply to the relative level of susceptibility/infection/protection of *unvaccinated* members of a population where the majority (or a certain level) are either vaccinated or otherwise known to be disease-free.

When Trump/Republicans/wingnuts use the term, it seems like what they really mean is “let the disease run rampant, and fuck the consequences - live or die, not my problem”. Am I missing something?

From my reading, the term is used generally and more specifically. I also see the term natural immunity for what we get on our own. Then “Herd Immunity” as a vaccine + natural goal. But look these guys are not well spoken by any stretch and refuse any and all scientific nuance that won’t fit a pro-Trump bullet point or tweet. With an airborne virus you really really need the vaccine to run this down.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 16, 2020 • 9:53:43am

Our recovery curve is flattening

LA County COVID chart. Labor day weekend is the gap to the far right in the data. I see a distinct flattening, a possible plateau coming up. Then at about two to three weeks past Labor day, we will see what a larger mingling in public spaces actually did here.

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Renaissance_Man  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:00:58am

re: #240 Interesting Times

a) They’re not, and just claimed they were so they could participate in the town hall (after all, if they posted nothing political on social media or left any other sort of trail, how could you prove where they stood?)

b) The ones who asked intelligent questions aren’t undecided between Biden and trump, but between voting and not voting (or going 3rd-party).

c) The average ‘undecided’ voter has fallen victim to spinoff effects of US media. There are two main effects of this brain disease; the most serious has people believing in vapid nonsense like QAnon or the goodwill of Republicans. But the constant bothsidering has a bigger and more insidious effect - millions of Americans don’t like Republicans, Trump, or Republican graft and crime. But they also believe that Democrats are terrorists, Biden is demented, and that leftists just want to take your money. These people are the true silent majority of the US - people who would support almost any liberal policy, but then actively vote against those same policies just because they have been trained to oppose anything a Democrat says or does.

Among other reasons, this is why America cannot be saved until its media culture is destroyed.

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Axolotl  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:01:43am

re: #147 dangerman

Meanwhile trump just inoculated Joe against any future accidental slip of the tongue.
Anyone piles onto Joe for an obvious misspeak…just respond with two words “herd mentality”

That is only the latest of a long list of gaffs. “Herd mentality” is kind of minor.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:02:58am
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:04:07am

YAY!!! My new computer is here!!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:04:12am

re: #351 retired cynic

I can’t believe you’re forcing me to vote for Trump, which I definitely didn’t already want to do, by Alexandra Petri (parody of a right winger who wrote such a piece a few days ago, but seriously)

Well done! And we need the laugh.

It’s a perfect parody of this Danielle Pletka column written on Monday. Danielle is a fellow of the American Enterprise Institute which is conservative but does have members like Norm Ornstein who is a committed Never-Trumper.

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:09:14am

re: #360 The Pie Overlord!

YAY!!! My new computer is here!!!!

Nice! I’ve always had great results with Dell. Enjoy!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:10:03am

re: #362 William Lewis

Nice! I’ve always had great results with Dell. Enjoy!

Same here. Well, Dell computers. Not so much their tech support…

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:11:04am

re: #363 Eclectic Cyborg

Same here. Well, Dell computers. Not so much their tech support…

Heh, it’s always good that I rarely need anyone doing tech support but myself … :D

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:14:59am

Well, my new old Nikkor 45/2.8 AI-P Cpu chipped manual focus lens arrived. Tiny little thing it’s made with the classic Zeiss Tessar design from 1907. Time to go see how well it exhibits the character of it’s ancestors :D

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:15:43am

re: #200 dangerman

questions should be tailored to the president’s ability to answer so he isnt made to look bad

its unfair to ask questions the president cant answer no matter how little education or competence he has //

All questions can’t be “Point at the camel”. That pisses tRump off.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:15:55am

Wut. In. The. Hellfuck. Is. This. Shit.

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jeffreyw  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:20:14am

re: #360 The Pie Overlord!

YAY!!! My new computer is here!!!!

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I’ve had several Dells, the first was an Inspiron with XP loaded. I kept that thing going with new batteries, screens, and keyboards bought from part sellers on Ebay. We have a couple of Dell laptops and a medium sized tower today.

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ericblair  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:23:20am

Napolean XIV - They’re Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!
THEY’RE COMING TO TAKE ME AWAY HAHA

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:24:41am

re: #367 The Pie Overlord!

Would go along well with this toilet from post 340.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:25:50am

re: #303 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

It’s not the 75 million you need to worry about, it’s the four to seven million who actively promulgate this stuff to the willing masses. Followers will follow where the leaders lead.

I don’t know what to do about them either, but at least that focuses the problem.

Cheeto’s remark (I refuse to call it a slip) about “herd mentality” is relevant here. Most of the base go along with conserva-derp because it suits their prejudices and, more importantly, because someone they respect has given them permission. These would be the local bosses who control their jobs, run their communities and presume all sorts of privilege, as well as the pop-culture figures who say what they like to hear, among others.
There is a whole working class mythology of “go along to get along,” as though conformity is a virtue in and of itself, you will do literally anything to pull your own weight and not be “dependent” (though obviously you are).
What makes this lethally effective is the elaborately developed ability of modern propaganda and advertising to portray this conformity as rebellion and individualism, usually against some strawman authority like “do-gooders,” “liberals” and, especially, teachers and other intellectuals. Refuse to wear a mask so you “won’t live in fear” but carry a rifle to Walmart. “Fuck their feelings” but heap hatred, scorn and threats on anyone who refuses to accept your values. Anti-intellectualism addresses the insecurity and feelings of inferiority of the less intelligent in a highly complex and rapidly evolving society.
I think the solution is to break the authority of the leaders from whom the base receives this permission. There are many ways this can be done, with tax reform being the main one. Raise the top rate so the privileged will have incentive to use their wealth for actual economic growth rather than financial manipulations. Take away the tax exempt status of political churches and evangelical scammers. It is also important to equalize power relationships by strengthening unions.
This, reduce the illegitimate authority of the right’s power-centers, is a broadly-defined goal rather than any kind of specific strategy. I think Joe and Kamala know this, they can make it happen and, more critically, the right-wing leaders know they can. This is the whole game for the latter, which is why we must expect an absolutely unprecedented level of disruption, obfuscation, cheating and even violence in this election.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:25:52am

re: #367 The Pie Overlord!

Wut. In. The. Hellfuck. Is. This. Shit.

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Someone had too much silvovitz. I’m embarrassed as a Slovene American that Melon is our most famous. But Amy Klobuchar and Luka Doncic are making it better.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:27:28am

re: #367 The Pie Overlord!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:29:03am

From a Catholic bishop in Kentucky.

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Mattand  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:30:24am

Just getting caught up on the day’s news.

Christ, had I known Trump was going to fuck up as completely as he did last night, I would have hopped on the train and found some way to get into the Constitution Center.

Just staggering that people can watch something like that and still go “Yeah, but Biden’s just as bad.”

Slightly related: my partner’s office in Center City Philly reopened at reduced capacity and within four days, they had a confirmed case.

And her employer is European-based and actually taking this shit seriously.

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Mattand  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:33:02am

re: #375 Mattand

Also, also: if you’re ever in Philly, you owe it to yourself to get the Constitution Center when/if this insanity is over. Wonderful museum.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:33:08am

re: #373 jaunte

I was thinking more along the lines of this thing:

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:35:58am

re: #238 dangerman

most corporate america wont touch it
the military is stuck as are i guess most federal workers

meanwhile CNBC

My company sent out a statement to us that they are not participating.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:37:02am

re: #369 ericblair

I’m not in Congress. I’m not nearly as kind. Caputo should get medical treatment. And after that, face prosecution for his misconduct.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:37:05am
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jaunte  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:38:16am
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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:38:27am

kanye trying to get the Trump vote:

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plansbandc  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:41:35am

This is an amazing person and story.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:43:32am

re: #381 jaunte

And yet, he and Trump were more than happy to let the actual insurrectionists who committed arson and other vandalism of the Malheur NWR to get off scot free.

Trump and Barr are saboteurs of the rule of law.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:44:04am

xre: #344 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

Honestly, many of them don’t really seem to care about their families either.

Margaret Thatcher: “There is no society. Only families.”

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KGxvi  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:44:21am

re: #369 ericblair

60 days, so 2 months… about the amount of time it takes to recover from COVID, no?

I mean, it would be irresponsible not to speculate, right?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:44:31am

re: #384 lawhawk

And yet, he and Trump were more than happy to let the actual insurrectionists who committed arson and other vandalism of the Malheur NWR to get off scot free.

Trump and Barr are saboteurs of the rule of law.

because they are enemies of both BLM and the BLM

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Mattand  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:45:01am

re: #324 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’d take Wolf Blitzer moderating over Rogan. Rogan will want to make himself part of the debate and that’s not what it’s about. It’s also why the late Jim Lehrer was so good. I still don’t know who he liked and who he didn’t and that’s a good thing.

Something that I haven’t seen brought up in all this idiocy: Rogan has openly admitted to supporting Trump once Sanders dropped out.*

How the fuck would anyone trust Rogan to be a neutral observer, which is what, in a normal world, a fucking debate moderate is supposed to be???

Sorry, I had a higher up at work get mad at me for doing my job and accidentally exposing her fuck up. Yeesh…

*I actually know someone in real life who has the same broken brain regarding this. Swear to God, it’s like being a vegan and then you start eating at a steak house, because the vegan place didn’t have the broccoli you like.

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TedStriker  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:45:49am

re: #377 The Pie Overlord!

I was thinking more along the lines of this thing:

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As a Nashvillian, that “statue” of Forrest makes me want to retch every time I see it.

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Mattand  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:46:16am

re: #386 KGxvi

60 days, so 2 months… about the amount of time it takes to recover from COVID, no?

I mean, it would be irresponsible not to speculate, right?

Some people are saying. The best people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:47:47am

re: #388 Mattand

Something that I haven’t seen brought up in all this idiocy: Rogan has openly admitted to supporting Trump once Sanders dropped out.*

there is no broken brain here, that is pure ratfucking brain. Supporting Sanders because he was the candidate least likely to defeat Trump

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Mattand  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:49:41am

re: #391 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there is no broken brain here, that is pure ratfucking brain. Supporting Sanders because he was the candidate least likely to defeat Trump

Huh. In Rogan’s case, I never thought of that. I was actually giving him the benefit of the doubt, because I figured Mr.JAQ off was buying into Bernie’s Man of the People shtick, which is what Trump does.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:52:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:53:41am

re: #393 lawhawk

“The preisdent has always supported mask wearing,”

Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.

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Marusya  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:54:49am

Did Russians clone Donald Trump?
Did you see the mobile game where Russians kidnap Donald Trump in 2013 during Miss Universe in Moscow, clone and put him in the White House? If preprogrammed clone does not follow orders from the Kremlin, the auto-destruction mode will be triggered? Where is the real Donald Trump?

It is a fantasy game inspired by all the noise around the Russian interference in US elections.

Check it out. Search online for “BadAsVlad. Birth of Clones” to find the homepage badasvlad.com.

Have a wonderful day!

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:57:48am

Our first commenter from Samara Oblast.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 16, 2020 • 10:58:30am

No, they’re justifying the forced-sterilization of immigrants on social media, by saying “no anchor babies.”

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2020 • 11:04:08am

re: #358 Axolotl

That is only the latest of a long list of gaffs. “Herd mentality” is kind of minor.

True
Though it’s the most recent so people will remember
It’s fresh.
And the nearest one to the debates (so far)
And only has to work for 50 odd days

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2020 • 11:11:41am

re: #367 The Pie Overlord!

Wut. In. The. Hellfuck. Is. This. Shit.

Blank, cold and creepy. Looks just like her.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2020 • 11:22:14am

re: #333 Belafon

I can sort of understand the origin, since “God damn it” sounds like you have the authority to ask God to do something, which would violate the commandment. But as with “a few bad apples”, its meaning has been perverted.

Yes, assuming the vanity that you speak for god. As so many pulpit pimps do.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 16, 2020 • 11:33:00am

re: #270 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She is a superhero and deserves time for retirement.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2020 • 12:14:09pm

re: #380 jaunte

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How many rights from the 1st amendment are still functional?

No free exercise of religion for certain practitioners.
Limited freedom of speech.
Press is denigrated as fake news.
Even peaceably assembled people are attacked.
Petitions to redress grievances are mostly ignored.

I’d say it is pretty much a clean sweep.


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