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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:38:08pm

FT
GOTV

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retired cynic  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:38:35pm

8645ASAP!

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:38:41pm

Reposted from end of previous thread:

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:39:07pm

I’ll piss on Trump’s grave when I get the chance.

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teleskiguy  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:39:40pm

re: #4 Ace Rothstein

I’ll piss on Trump’s grave when I get the chance.

Deuce. If I can get away with it.

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sizzzzlerz  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:42:22pm

re: #4 Ace Rothstein

I’ll piss on Trump’s grave when I get the chance.

Get in line.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:43:12pm

re: #3 Ace-o-aces

Reposted from end of previous thread:

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retired cynic  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:43:20pm

re: #4 Ace Rothstein

I’ll piss on Trump’s grave when I get the chance.

I’ll just be grateful if I still have a pot to p*ss in myself!

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:43:42pm

re: #7 i(m)p(each)sos

(trying to do cursive on the touchpad of my aging laptop is…. not very good!)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:45:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:45:40pm

re: #141 Ace-o-aces

I came across this exchange on MAGA-Twitter today, and I have so many questions about the idea that knowing cursive protects the constitution. For instance, do they really think someone is going to break into the national archives and alter the written version?

Does this also apply to the Bible? How will you know if the Bible’s been altered if you can’t read and write in ancient Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek?

Gaa.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:46:40pm

From downstairs:

re: #141 Ace-o-aces

One of the guys in that tweet stream (raging fears that the Constitution will somehow be sekritly changed if we don’t teach cursive) also posts this:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:48:13pm

re: #12 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

From downstairs:

One of the guys in that tweet stream (raging fears that the Constitution will somehow be sekritly changed if we don’t teach cursive) also posts this:

A school did that? Are the students going to walk out?

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:50:44pm

re: #12 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Keep that name handy to track him.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:52:35pm
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Ferdinand  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:54:57pm

re: #14 jaunte

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Keep that name handy to track him.

I’d guess it’s a misguided attempt to be edgy, seeing as how George Floyd is on the list too.

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:55:05pm

The gravity of ‘bothsides’ is so strong it’s even pulling on Daniel Dale.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:57:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:57:39pm

re: #17 jaunte

The gravity of ‘bothsides’ is so strong it’s even pulling on Daniel Dale.

He was probably ordered to do this. It’s CNN. This is what they do.

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jaunte  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:58:02pm
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BeachDem  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:58:58pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

He was probably ordered to do this. It’s CNN. This is what they do.

Daniel’s explanation

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:59:00pm

re: #17 jaunte

Actually, Daniel Dale is being fair so I have no problem with him. Biden is going to say a few things which are incorrect but that’s not comparable to Trump who intentionally lies all the dang time.

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retired cynic  Sep 17, 2020 • 8:59:08pm

re: #20 jaunte

But it must be done, and the difference is telling.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2020 • 9:00:59pm

LOL

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 17, 2020 • 9:04:15pm

This is one of those nights I need to watch James Brown on the T.A.M.I. Show/

James Brown & The Famous Flames, live on the T.A.M.I show 1964

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2020 • 9:08:18pm

After our hunter/gatherer expedition to town, I’m worn out. I need a nap.

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2020 • 9:44:05pm

If I were a Trump staffer, at this point I’d be asking (loudly and often) what the point of going forward with debates is after this week. Before tonight, you could possibly make the argument that comparing Trump as “virile and competent” against Biden as “senile and incompetent” could be enough to swing a few crucial districts on Election Night.

After tonight? HA! Donny insisted upon sitting down for his entire “town hall” session and lied out his ass so hard that he was in danger of blowing his o-ring. Versus Biden tonight who stood the entire time, answered questions with competency, and even respected a voter when it was pointed out that he’d interrupted their question.

What is a debate that Trump is making no effort to prepare for and thinks he can repeat tonight’s performance at going to do but further the impression that he is the one who is too old and lost to be trusted with the nuclear codes?

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2020 • 9:45:13pm

None of us always get the facts right, and it’s fair to be called on them. What Dale will need to do is run fact vs exaggeration vs lie counts on both candidates.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 17, 2020 • 9:46:39pm

re: #27 Targetpractice

Trump is performing for his followers. He will continue as he has been, because that is what his followers want.

For the rest of us, who may care about reality, our job is to make sure those so-called “undecideds” finally make a rational decision.

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retired cynic  Sep 17, 2020 • 9:47:02pm

re: #28 Belafon

None of us always get the facts right, and it’s fair to be called on them. What Dale will need to do is run fact vs exaggerations vs lies on bothe candidates.

By the time he finishes DT’s outright lies, he won’t have time for exaggerations.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 17, 2020 • 10:00:17pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2020 • 10:23:24pm

re: #29 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Trump is performing for his followers. He will continue as he has been, because that is what his followers want.

For the rest of us, who may care about reality, our job is to make sure those so-called “undecideds” finally make a rational decision.

I imagine that is the big reason that his campaign is not trying to talk him out of the debates: They think this might be their “ace in the hole,” that if he gives a great performance then it will make up for all those ad buys they had to pull out of, and if he does poorly they can spin something about his being “genuine” or slip rumors to the press that Joe was “coached.”

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 17, 2020 • 10:31:30pm

re: #32 Targetpractice

I imagine that is the big reason that his campaign is not trying to talk him out of the debates: They think this might be their “ace in the hole,” that if he gives a great performance then it will make up for all those ad buys they had to pull out of, and if he does poorly they can spin something about his being “genuine” or slip rumors to the press that Joe was “coached.”

The Usual Assholes on Twitter are already pushing the “Biden was coached” bullshit!

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2020 • 10:37:08pm

re: #33 🌹UOJB!

The Usual Assholes on Twitter are already pushing the “Biden was coached” bullshit!

But of course they are. That happens when you believe your own bullshit, you start spinning conspiracy theories to explain why your bullshit doesn’t match reality.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2020 • 10:44:27pm

re: #34 Targetpractice

But of course they are. That happens when you believe your own bullshit, you start spinning conspiracy theories to explain why your bullshit doesn’t match reality.

And I really don’t care what those people think.

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Belafon  Sep 17, 2020 • 10:45:02pm
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Jay C  Sep 17, 2020 • 10:48:10pm

re: #35 Belafon

And I really don’t care what those people think.

In a rational political system, we shouldn’t- the problem here and now, though, is that the CT Bullshit Brigade apparently makes up about 40% of the electorate.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2020 • 10:50:12pm

The primary season has ended. Now for the main event.

Feel the Christian love… .

Drag Queen claims victory over legislator who voted against marriage equality in Delaware upset (Raw Story)

On Tuesday, Delaware was the final state to hold their 2020 primary election.

The race to represent the 27th district turned nasty, when incumbent Rep. Earl Jaques (D-Glasgow) attacked his openly gay challenger, Eric Morrison, for appearing at a drag show.

“That is so far off-base for our district, it’s unbelievable,” Jaques told The News Journal in October of 2019. “You wonder what the point is. You can have fundraisers, I don’t care about that. But dressing in drag? Really?”

Morrison has performed as a female for nearly a quarter of a century, the newspaper reported.

“I’m not sure he represents the people who attend those places of religion,” said Jaques, who is Christian. “If he’s actually having a fundraiser in drag, I don’t think those churches would endorse that … I’m just saying it’s a little different, that’s for sure.”

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Jaques voted against both marriage equality and against abolishing conversion therapy in 2013.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:04:36pm

re: #33 🌹UOJB!

The Usual Assholes on Twitter are already pushing the “Biden was coached” bullshit!

Also, the usual assholes are saying “no, because Tara Reade!”:

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:07:37pm

re: #39 Sherlock Hound

ETA this brilliant response to Carmine:

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piratedan  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:11:32pm

re: #40 Sherlock Hound

the amount of times this guy has been wrong, should bring into question whether or not he gets help dressing himself.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:20:03pm

re: #39 Sherlock Hound

Also, the usual assholes are saying “no, because Tara Reade!”:

Hey Carmine, I can’t take anyone seriously who can’t get the name of a major political party right, when Republicans have been corrected on this since the 1890s. It makes me think people in your party are incapable of learning basic English grammar. Aren’t you the guys the ones who insist on English only?

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:23:29pm

re: #41 piratedan

the amount of times this guy has been wrong bring into question whether or not he gets help dressing himself.

What’s in it for him, or for Ryan Grim, for that matter? It’s understandable that women drive the MeToo movement because they comprise most of the victims. But guys like Carmine and Ryan give off predatory vibes.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:29:14pm

re: #43 Sherlock Hound

What’s in it for him, or for Ryan Grim, for that matter? It’s understandable that women drive the MeToo movement because they comprise most of the victims. But guys like Carmine and Ryan give off predatory vibes.

There are always conservatives to fleece. Always.

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piratedan  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:30:09pm

re: #43 Sherlock Hound

wish I could understand it, my feeling about Grim is that he’s a member of the left’s version of the Trumpies, would be just as willing to throw all of the normals and constraints that are built into our system to the side; as long as he got to be the one with all the power. Carmine just seems like an opportunistic troll, somehow perceiving the behavior of the Bernie Bros with being part of the cool kids.

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:38:05pm

The appropriate response to any variation of “What about Tara Reade?” is “What about her?” She dropped off the radar months ago when the media began to realize that nothing added up, none of her “witnesses” were contemporaneous, she kept changing her allegations, and she was caught fibbing about her credentials in order to collect paychecks as an “expert witness.”

Like I said above, the only way you can continue to claim to “believe” Tara is by spinning conspiracy theories about hidden files at the University of Delaware and everybody who knew the woman at the time she worked in Joe’s office choosing to lie about rape and sexual harassment to protect him.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:49:44pm

The GOP isn’t even trying here. Meanwhile

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:56:59pm

Will go over great (not) with your Facebook ROGs (racist old grandparents):

Christian Nationalism with Andrew Whitehead & Samuel Perry

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Targetpractice  Sep 17, 2020 • 11:59:49pm

Folks pointed out time and again during the spring that the only reason MAGAts (and many Berners) gave a damn about Tara Reade was as a way of insulating Trump from his own accusations of being a sexual predator. Those same assholes denied it at the time, but yet they’re nowhere to be found with their “BELIEVE ALL WOMEN!!!” bullshit when presented with Amy Dorris.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 18, 2020 • 12:00:35am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 18, 2020 • 12:14:43am

So the discussion the other day about Marianne and why she went downhill… and I still think she should have been a bigger (wider) star for longer:

Marianne Faithfull - Plaisir d’amour (1966)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 18, 2020 • 12:17:37am

Comparatively, Joan was able to sustain herself as a popular draw. Talent abounds in humans, but there is an act of chance in all our lives:

Diamonds And Rust

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2020 • 12:17:57am

re: #51 Dread Pirate Ron

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Ah, he suffers from Dick Clark’s Disease.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 12:17:57am

re: #36 Belafon

Inbox: Today, the National Postal Mail Handlers Union endorsed Joe Biden for President.]

Proof that the Deep State is going to steal this election…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 12:19:01am

re: #46 Targetpractice

The appropriate response to any variation of “What about Tara Reade?” is “What about her?” She dropped off the radar months ago when the media began to realize that nothing added up, none of her “witnesses” were contemporaneous, she kept changing her allegations, and she was caught fibbing about her credentials in order to collect paychecks as an “expert witness.”

Like I said above, the only way you can continue to claim to “believe” Tara is by spinning conspiracy theories about hidden files at the University of Delaware and everybody who knew the woman at the time she worked in Joe’s office choosing to lie about rape and sexual harassment to protect him.

Well, there’s the appearance of a late-stage rodent copulation, due to the time in the election cycle.

That doesn’t mean discount Ms. Dorris, her story will be checked by everyone, just like Ms. Reade’s story was.

Considering the wake of wreckage Mr. Trump has behind him regarding women, that alone lend some credibility to her claims … but also offers an opportunity for Republicans to throw a monkey wrench in the works.

In any case, if her claims are true, I doubt it matters much to Deplorables.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 18, 2020 • 12:26:13am
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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2020 • 12:36:23am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, there’s the appearance of a late-stage rodent copulation, due to the time in the election cycle.

That doesn’t mean discount Ms. Dorris, her story will be checked by everyone, just like Ms. Reade’s story was.

Considering the wake of wreckage Mr. Trump has behind him regarding women, that alone lend some credibility to her claims … but also offers an opportunity for Republicans to throw a monkey wrench in the works.

In any case, if her claims are true, I doubt it matters much to Deplorables.

My belief for the longest time is they were hoping for another Al Franken scenario: Get a conga line of women who’d accuse Biden of being a serial “sexual harasser” while floating the same set of pics around that supposedly showed his “preying on women” behavior. The problem was that they women they found almost universally admitted that he’d either apologized for his behavior or that they understood he wasn’t being a perv but is an old-fashioned guy who sometimes has trouble respecting personal space. Plus there wasn’t a media explosion like with the Franken allegations, while Dems have come to realize that the way they treated Franken was deplorable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 12:39:25am

They are still pushing the “mental decline” narrative although Trump gives us daily updates on the progress of his dementia.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 18, 2020 • 1:05:48am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 1:50:07am

re: #57 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If we’re doing Brazilian music, a song which was popular there when I was an exchange student.

(2:51)

O que será (A flor da terra) - Chico Buarque

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 2:03:39am

nhc.noaa.gov

The Atlantic Basin stays busy.

Post-tropical cyclone Paulette is at 45°N, moving south. There is a chance it will redevelop into a tropical storm.

Another wave SW of the Cabo Verde Islands is in the process of developing into a depression.

Another wave in Africa has the potential to become a depression.

The wave in the Bay of Campeche has been designated Tropical Depression Twenty-Two. It is moving slightly east of north, but is expected to turn westward toward Texas, then NE and rake the entire Texas coastline. It is expected to become a tropical storm but it is too early yet to determine if it will become a hurricane.

Hurricane Teddy is expected to strike Bermuda this weekend (they are still recovering from Hurricane Paulette). Afterwards, it is expected to strike Nova Scotia directly, as a post-tropical hurricane.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 2:13:03am

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hurricane Teddy is expected to strike Bermuda this weekend (they are still recovering from Hurricane Paulette). Afterwards, it is expected to strike Nova Scotia directly, as a post-tropical hurricane.

“acute on top of chronic” … this term is used to describe when a chronic situation is exacerbated by an acute event.

And hurricanes/tropical storms are growing to be a chronic issue for the South/Central Atlantic.

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2020 • 2:39:55am

re: #23 retired cynic

But it must be done, and the difference is telling.

the difference is the point

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2020 • 2:54:48am

LinkCNN Host Delivers 6-Minute Takedown Of Fox News’ Coronavirus Misinformation

Misinformation is a virus unto itself. And Fox News is the vector.”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 3:24:30am

re: #52 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the discussion the other day about Marianne and why she went downhill… and I still think she should have been a bigger (wider) star for longer:

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Video

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Her age is showing in the video—you can see her smallpox vaccination site. At that, she’s still not half as old as the song.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 3:39:27am

re: #65 dangerman

LinkCNN Host Delivers 6-Minute Takedown Of Fox News’ Coronavirus Misinformation

Misinformation is a virus unto itself. And Fox News is the vector.”

We must create a Ministry of Fairness and Balance!!!

/

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 18, 2020 • 4:10:13am

It’s probably my age, but these days I just don’t find much of the small-screen, or even large-screen, entertainment products of interest. So much lazy derivative blah….

I did find the recent series Avenue 5 humorous. It doesn’t get that good of reviews on IMDB, but I think that is because the comedy is of a definite nature that is less appealing to the US mass market. It strikes me as a bit British in the nature of its comedy.

Strangely enough, the children’s animated series Infinity Train caught my eye. It’s very charming and not insulting even to this old person. But there are some episodes in season 2 and 3 that strike me as not friendly to young children - too much violence (and death.) Some of the articles written that interview the creators mention this change in tone.

The Radcliffe/Buscemi production Miracle Workers I found humorous in the first season, but when the 2nd season came out and it was an entirely new show I lost interest quickly.

But on the whole my eyes just gloss over when I try out so many of the productions. The Marvel (and DC and Star Trek and….) franchises just whiz past me and I just can’t get into them.

Most of all I think there is too much emphasis on production technology (especially computer generated graphics) and nowhere near enough good material (written stories and scripts) to be worthy of all that production money.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 4:41:49am

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It’s probably my age, but these days I just don’t find much of the small-screen, or even large-screen, entertainment products of interest. So much lazy derivative blah….

I spend more time browsing Netflix than I do watching it. I have been watching some series with my kids; my son and I watched Narcos, which I found well done, youngest daughter and I watched The Politician which generally sucked but was educational for her when I paused to comment on all the refences contained therein, and middle daughter and I are watching Lucifer, which is written by Neil Gaiman and has some witty moments and a good soundtrack.

But I must admit I otherwise just find myself watching old Star Trek reruns to fall asleep…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 4:52:31am

Doing more TV because I’m still fairly locked down alone here. Yesterday’s find was The Death of Stalin, with Buscemi as Kruschev. It was as black as comedy gets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 4:54:43am

re: #70 Decatur Deb

Doing more TV because I’m still fairly locked down alone here. Yesterday’s find was The Death of Stalin, with Buscemi as Kruschev. It was as black as comedy gets.

I as must too much a student of Russian and Russian history to get over their accents, although Marshal Zhukov speaking like a Northern English Geordie does seem to fit the character.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 5:10:17am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I as must too much a student of Russian and Russian history to get over their accents, although Marshal Zhukov speaking like a Northern English Geordie does seem to fit the character.

Loved the accents—I didn’t realize until the credits that Michael Palin was Molotov. Checking shows that the comedy squeezes the events of several months into a few days. I remember the radio news report of Stalin’s death. I was about to turn 7.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 5:11:38am

re: #72 Decatur Deb

Loved the accents—I didn’t realize until the credits that Michael Palin was Molotov. Checking shows that the comedy squeezes the events of several months into a few days. I remember the radio news report of Stalin’s death. I was about to turn 7.

My oldest daughter went to see it in the cinema in Talinn, Estonia. I probably would have enjoyed it much more in a setting like that…

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2020 • 5:14:39am

There are no words strong enough for how much I hate this prick:

One attendee told Kushner that Americans were bidding against each other for the limited supply of PPE, and that person explained that businesses that wanted to help were looking for leadership from the federal government.

“Free markets will solve this,” Kushner replied. “That is not the role of government.”

That same person agreed that open markets could solve many problems, but he said the system was breaking under the crisis, pointing to a CNN report about New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s desperation for supplies.

“That’s the CNN bullsh*t,” Kushner told that person. “They lie.”

Another attendee said that prompted a rant by Kushner against the Democratic governor.

“Cuomo didn’t pound the phones hard enough to get PPE for his state,” Kushner said. “His people are going to suffer and that’s their problem.”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 5:21:46am

re: #74 Targetpractice

There are no words strong enough for how much I hate this prick:

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One of the most repulsive people in this administration and that’s saying something because Stephen Miller eats mice alone.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 5:42:12am

Trump’s Covid Radiologist Joins Snowflake SLAPP Suit Hurt Feefees Club (Wonkette)

Another day, another Trumplander threatening to sue his critics for mean words that gave him hurt feefees. They’re all such whiny, bloody snowflakes!

Today’s sniveling little snotnose is Dr. Scott Atlas, the neuroradiologist who earned himself a spot on the president’s coronavirus task force through frequent appearances on Fox News where he praised the president’s handling of the virus and criticized lockdowns.

Atlas’s colleagues at Stanford University, where he is a fellow at the conservative Hoover Institution, were not impressed. And upwards of 70 of them expressed their disapprobation in an open letter on September 9.

“As infectious diseases physicians and researchers, microbiologists and immunologists, epidemiologists and health policy leaders,” they wrote, “we stand united in efforts to develop and promote science-based solutions that advance human health and prevent suffering from the coronavirus pandemic.” Which is just MEAN and NO FAIR because Dr. Atlas is literally none of those kinds of -ist. He’s a radiologist without any specialized understanding of viral transmission across wide populations.

(more)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 18, 2020 • 5:46:54am

re: #40 Sherlock Hound

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 18, 2020 • 5:56:14am

re: #33 🌹UOJB!

The Usual Assholes on Twitter are already pushing the “Biden was coached” bullshit!

I like presidents who are unprepared. ////

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:06:20am

re: #52 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

So the discussion the other day about Marianne and why she went downhill… and I still think she should have been a bigger (wider) star for longer.

From the last paragraph of her article at Wikipedia:

On 4 April 2020, it was announced that Faithfull was in hospital in London receiving treatment for pneumonia after having tested positive for the novel virus, COVID-19. Her management company reported that she was “stable and responding to treatment”. On 21 April she was discharged following a three-week hospitalization, having fully recovered from the virus. In a brief statement, Faithfull publicly thanked the hospital staff who “without a doubt” saved her life.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:10:57am

re: #68 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Infinity Train is definitely meant for tweens and older.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:14:45am

re: #80 Belafon

Infinity Train is definitely meant for tweens and older.

I watched Stranger Things with my kids and found it entertaining as a family show, but cannot begin to watch it on my own…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:16:03am

‘I Could Show You Stuff You Wouldn’t Believe:’ Gravediggers Speak Out About Horrifying Conditions (Vice)

Gravediggers employed by one of the country’s largest cemetery and funeral home corporations, StoneMor, are battling for their first union contract—amid a COVID-related increase in burials.

In April, 13 gravediggers at Beth Israel, a Jewish cemetery in a working class New Jersey township across the street from one of the state’s largest malls, buried roughly 300 bodies—many of them presumed by workers to be victims of COVID-19.

In a typical month, the crew at Beth Israel Cemetery digs between 50 and 100 graves. During the peak of the coronavirus outbreak in New Jersey and neighboring New York City, where the virus tore through many Hasidic Jewish neighborhoods with ties to Beth Israel, the gravediggers took to the fields at the earliest hours of daylight to pour foundation, lay out wood, dig trenches, set up funerals, carry caskets, and fill graves with backhoes. Gravediggers say they often worked ten-and-a-half-hour shifts, and have not gotten hazard pay and only sporadic bathroom and lunch breaks, according to Teamsters Local 469, the gravediggers’ union.

“I’d never seen anything like it in my life. We did 10 to 14 burials every day for six weeks,” a gravedigger who works at Beth Israel told Motherboard. A burial schedule obtained by Motherboard shows a day in April, for example, in which 10 burials and 5 mausoleum entombments were scheduled in a four-and-a-half-hour period. Workers say it was at times impossible to complete all the burials in the allotted time.

“We had such a high volume of work and so few workers that we had to leave people’s loved ones in graves left open for four to seven hours, and even overnight, going against Jewish tradition,” he continued. “I don’t think families would have appreciated it much to learn that that happened.”

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jeffreyw  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:17:56am

Good morning!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:20:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:25:20am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

‘I Could Show You Stuff You Wouldn’t Believe:’ Gravediggers Speak Out About Horrifying Conditions (Vice)

Gravediggers employed by one of the country’s largest cemetery and funeral home corporations, StoneMor, are battling for their first union contract—amid a COVID-related increase in burials.

Something that the gig economy is not set up to handle…which applies to pretty much ANYTHING related to Covid.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:32:19am

Trump: The Germans are sending boats to attack us again:

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:34:55am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I watched Stranger Things with my kids and found it entertaining as a family show, but cannot begin to watch it on my own…

I liked Infinity Train, but it definitely has some darker themes that aren’t meant for young children. I would even argue that the first season, which was pretty light compared to the last, has too mature a theme for younger kids to try to understand.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:38:43am
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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:38:43am

And imagine all of the non-adults we’ll have to deal with once he takes over and works to get this under control.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:41:27am

re: #86 Belafon

“To accommodate such an enormous order, Crown plans to print about 1 million of those books in Germany and has arranged for three ships, outfitted with 112 shipping containers, to bring those copies to the United States.”

The Deep State is much deeper than we originally suspected…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:42:01am

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Something that the gig economy is not set up to handle…which applies to pretty much ANYTHING related to Covid.

In this case, it’s not the gig economy. The gravediggers are employees of one of the largest cemetery companies in the country.

The allegations against the company include desecration of the graves, not caring for this particular cemetery (people pay extra for “eternal” care but that care of the gravesites is not being provided), flooding of some gravesites from the water table below, collapsed headstones, &c.

The problem is capitalism. The company is consolidating family-owned funeral homes and privately-run cemeteries, then the company is cutting costs. Since the company went live on the Stock Exchange, the price of its shares has collapsed.

The gravediggers allege wage theft of overtime pay, outdated unsafe or polluting equipment, &c. They’ve filed cases with New Jersey, OSHA, and EPA.

When family members call the company which runs the Jewish cemetery to complain about conditions, “there’s nothing we can do.”

There’s also nothing the federal government will do, so long as it’s run by conservatives.

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By contrast, the single cemetery in my town is owned by the village government. (Well, it’s not actually in town, it’s about a mile north, but the cemetery is part of the incorporated village.)

All care for the cemetery is paid for in the village budget. Gravediggers aren’t employed there but are paid as needed (and much more than what the gravediggers are at that Jewish cemetery in New Jersey are).

There are no toppled headstones, no water boiling up into graves (that can be a problem in any cemetery but there are measures which can be employed to avoid that … which the company running the cemetery in New Jersey isn’t doing because that cuts into corporate profits), no overgrown gravesites with weeds, &c.

If any of that did happen in our town cemetery, the cemetery board and the village board would be strung up.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:44:32am

My wife got an E-mail from Hulu notifying her the new season of “Archer” has begun there.

We’ll probably take “Dark Shadows” breaks for that … the plot follows Sterling Archer as he wakes up from his coma. I’m sure “phrasing” will take up a portion of the dialogue.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:45:52am

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In this case, it’s not the gig economy. The gravediggers are employees of one of the largest cemetery companies in the country.

The Ideal of Modern American Capitalism is seen when contractors head downtown to pick up a load of day laborers. And Uber and UPS and the like who send people out and pay per unit delivered. the

That is how they would like to see the entire labor market function.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:46:08am

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In this case, it’s not the gig economy. The gravediggers are employees of one of the largest cemetery companies in the country.

The allegations against the company include desecration of the graves, not caring for this particular cemetery (people pay extra for “eternal” care but that care of the gravesites is not being provided), flooding of some gravesites from the water table below, collapsed headstones, &c.

The problem is capitalism. The company is consolidating family-owned funeral homes and privately-run cemeteries, then the company is cutting costs. Since the company went live on the Stock Exchange, the price of its shares has collapsed.

The gravediggers allege wage theft of overtime pay, outdated unsafe or polluting equipment, &c. They’ve filed cases with New Jersey, OSHA, and EPA.

When family members call the company which runs the Jewish cemetery to complain about conditions, “there’s nothing we can do.”

There’s also nothing the federal government will do, so long as it’s run by conservatives.

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By contrast, the single cemetery in my town is owned by the village government. (Well, it’s not actually in town, it’s about a mile north, but the cemetery is part of the incorporated village.)

All care for the cemetery is paid for in the village budget. Gravediggers aren’t employed there but are paid as needed (and much more than what the gravediggers are at that Jewish cemetery in New Jersey are).

There are no toppled headstones, no water boiling up into graves (that can be a problem in any cemetery but there are measures which can be employed to avoid that … which the company running the cemetery in New Jersey isn’t doing because that cuts into corporate profits), no overgrown gravesites with weeds, &c.

If any of that did happen in our town cemetery, the cemetery board and the village board would be strung up.

In Italy, especially some of the prestigious cemeteries, graves are sometimes leased. Your descendants don’t make the payment, you can be evicted.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:49:02am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

In Italy, especially some of the prestigious cemeteries, graves are leased. Your descendants don’t make the payment, you can be evicted.

My wife and I have a reservation here at Rose Hill Cemetery with a couple of plots already purchased (cemetery plots are very inexpensive in rural Nebraska … my brother-in-law considered buying a bunch of them here and selling them to people in Texas).

We’re not the sort to put up a headstone while we’re still alive, which seems like asking for trouble. At the moment there is a park bench on our future home.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:50:32am

Hey, look at which asshole has turned up in the news.

(Not to be confused with our host, who is NOT CCJ…)

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:51:58am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife and I have a reservation here at Rose Hill Cemetery with a couple of plots already purchased (cemetery plots are very inexpensive in rural Nebraska … my brother-in-law considered buying a bunch of them here and selling them to people in Texas).

We’re not the sort to put up a headstone while we’re still alive, which seems like asking for trouble. At the moment there is a park bench on our future home.

I’m trying to convince Wife that we should be buried in a green cemetery/wildlife preserve across the line in Florida. Importing a stiff is very cumbersome, however.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:54:32am

re: #96 makeitstop

Hey, look at which asshole has turned up in the news.

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(Not to be confused with our host, who is NOT CCJ…)

The only question I have is whether CCJ shat on the ambassador’s floor.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:55:01am

Joking aside. Just how fucking compromised are these guys?

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:55:52am

re: #99 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Joking aside. Just how fucking compromised are these guys?

If everyone votes, we might get to find out.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:57:31am

re: #100 Decatur Deb

If everyone votes, we might get to find out.

Yeah I’m going to early vote as soon as I get my new address registered. I’m moving Thursday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:57:36am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

In Italy, especially some of the prestigious cemeteries, graves are sometimes leased. Your descendants don’t make the payment, you can be evicted.

Standard lease in Germany in 30 years, after which you are subject to being exhumed and put in a ossuary.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 6:58:45am

re: #96 makeitstop

Hey, look at which asshole has turned up in the news.

(Not to be confused with our host, who is NOT CCJ…)

Time for a deflection from Trump:

TikTok and WeChat: US to ban app downloads in 48 hours (BBC, twenty-five minutes ago)

TikTok and WeChat will be banned from US app stores from Sunday, unless President Donald Trump agrees to a last-minute deal.

The Department of Commerce said it would bar people in the US from downloading the messaging and video-sharing apps through any app store on any platform.
The Trump administration says the companies threaten national security and could pass user data to China.

But China and both companies deny this.

While the US government says this is a matter of national security, TikTok claims the proposed ban is motivated by politics.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:00:28am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Standard lease in Germany in 30 years, after which you are subject to being exhumed and put in a ossuary.

Americans don’t grasp that there are a lot more dead Europeans than live ones. We’re probably not above parity, here.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:01:02am

re: #97 Decatur Deb

I’m trying to convince Wife that we should be buried in a green cemetery/wildlife preserve across the line in Florida. Importing a stiff is very cumbersome, however.

Not as hard as you might think.

When my first wife’s father died in Florida, it was the family’s wish that he be buried in his hometown in northeastern Mississippi.

Long story about why he did it I won’t relate here, but after the funeral in Bartow, Florida, her eldest brother rented a van and drove his father’s body to Mississippi for a second service and burial there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:01:20am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

Americans don’t grasp that there are a lot more dead Europeans than live ones. We’re probably not above parity, here.

and that they have been dying there in greater numbers for a lot longer with a lot less available space, especially in or near urban areas.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:02:39am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not as hard as you might think.

When my first wife’s father died in Florida, it was the family’s wish that he be buried in his hometown in northeastern Mississippi.

Long story about why he did it I won’t relate here, but after the funeral in Bartow, Florida, her eldest brother rented a van and drove his father’s body to Mississippi for a second service and burial there.

In this case, it’s complicated by the cemetery’s no-embalming rules. They frown on caskets, too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:03:11am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

While the US government says this is a matter of national security, TikTok claims the proposed ban is motivated by politics petty revenge because a bunch of Tik Tok teenies punked his campaign staff over the Tulsa debacle.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:03:54am

re: #46 Targetpractice

The appropriate response to any variation of “What about Tara Reade?” is “What about her?” She dropped off the radar months ago when the media began to realize that nothing added up, none of her “witnesses” were contemporaneous, she kept changing her allegations, and she was caught fibbing about her credentials in order to collect paychecks as an “expert witness.”

Like I said above, the only way you can continue to claim to “believe” Tara is by spinning conspiracy theories about hidden files at the University of Delaware and everybody who knew the woman at the time she worked in Joe’s office choosing to lie about rape and sexual harassment to protect him.

They believe Obama was born in Kenya and his HI birth certificate is a fake.

They believe in Q.

They believe anything and everything Our Side Good, Their Side Bad no matter how stupid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:07:35am

re: #109 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

They believe Obama was born in Kenya and his HI birth certificate is a fake.

They believe in Q.

They believe anything and everything Our Side Good, Their Side Bad no matter how stupid.

And they are embraced by a political party that is not about to call them out as long as their conspiracy theories are directed at the opposing party, no matter how spurious or cockamamie they are.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:11:36am

re: #74 Targetpractice

There are no words strong enough for how much I hate this prick:

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Let’s hope that baby sociopath winds up in prison like daddy.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:12:33am

re: #94 Decatur Deb

In Italy, especially some of the prestigious cemeteries, graves are sometimes leased. Your descendants don’t make the payment, you can be evicted.

That’s why I made arrangements with the Neptune Society for cremation and scattering my ashes in the ocean. I also wrote instructions in my will for NO FUNERAL. Not going to give my Xtian relatives an opening for a Pulpit Pimp to make some tax-exempt cash off of my death.

My grandmother had an arrangement with the Neptune Society and she wanted me to make sure it was done but my wacko religious freak Aunt tore up the contract and turned Grandma’s funeral into Pulpit Pimp-0-Rama.

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Jay C  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:13:24am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Standard lease in Germany in 30 years, after which you are subject to being exhumed and put in a ossuary.

Not just in Germany. Anyone else old enough to recall the flap when Pere Lachaise cemetery in Paris was going to evict Jim Morrison? Fans, IIRC, had to raise the scratch to renew his lease. (Or maybe his family).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:13:29am

Forest burials are gaining popularity in Germany, but the Catholic Church is against them, finding them “too pagan” and will not allow priests to attend forest funerals or bless gravesites.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:14:49am

re: #113 Jay C

Not just in Germany. Anyone else old enough to recall the flap when Pere Lachaise cemetery in Paris was going to evict Jim Morrison? Fans, IIRC, had to raise the scratch to renew his lease. (Or maybe his family).

They could make up for that by simply charging admission to his gravesite…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:15:10am

re: #112 🌹UOJB!

That’s why I made arrangements with the Neptune Society for cremation and scattering my ashes in the ocean. I also wrote instructions in my will for NO FUNERAL. Not going to give my Xtian relatives an opening for a Pulpit Pimp to make some tax-exempt cash off of my death.

My grandmother had an arrangement with the Neptune Society and she wanted me to make sure it was done but my wacko religious freak Aunt tore up the contract and turned Grandma’s funeral into Pulpit Pimp-0-Rama.

What’s wrong with a shoebox off the Fort Pitt Bridge? (Though I’d go for the Roberto Clemente, myself.)

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:16:15am

re: #116 Decatur Deb

What’s wrong with a shoebox off the Fort Pitt Bridge? (Though I’d go for the Roberto Clemente, myself.)

Difficult to do when you now live in Los Angeles…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:17:16am

re: #113 Jay C

Not just in Germany. Anyone else old enough to recall the flap when Pere Lachaise cemetery in Paris was going to evict Jim Morrison? Fans, IIRC, had to raise the scratch to renew his lease. (Or maybe his family).

As I heard that, eviction wasn’t for default on the rent, but the constant loud partying.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:17:20am

re: #112 🌹UOJB!

That’s why I made arrangements with the Neptune Society for cremation and scattering my ashes in the ocean. I also wrote instructions in my will for NO FUNERAL. Not going to give my Xtian relatives an opening for a Pulpit Pimp to make some tax-exempt cash off of my death.

My grandmother had an arrangement with the Neptune Society and she wanted me to make sure it was done but my wacko religious freak Aunt tore up the contract and turned Grandma’s funeral into Pulpit Pimp-0-Rama.

My Christian relatives wouldn’t give me a funeral if you paid them. They wouldn’t come to my first wedding (my second one was private with just my wife and me), so I doubt they give a damn if I die.

As for locally, it is in my will to hire an Irish folk band and pay for a couple kegs of beer at the town community centre.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:18:52am

re: #117 🌹UOJB!

Difficult to do when you now live in Los Angeles…

A USPS Express box could get you there for $13.75, tops. And the box is free.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:22:01am

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My Christian relatives wouldn’t give me a funeral if you paid them. They wouldn’t come to my first wedding (my second one was private with just my wife and me), so I doubt they give a damn if I die.

As for locally, it is in my will to hire an Irish folk band and pay for a couple kegs of beer at the town community centre.

Wife and I have discussed getting underground as fast and cheaply as possible, and putting a couple thousand to some music students to do an Irish jahrzeit concert. Extra for pipes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:22:19am

re: #118 Decatur Deb

As I heard that, eviction wasn’t for default on the rent, but the constant loud partying.

Charge admission!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:24:31am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Charge admission!

Rodin complained that he couldn’t think.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:26:11am

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Wife and I have discussed getting underground as fast and cheaply as possible, and putting a couple thousand to some music students to do an Irish jahrzeit concert. Extra for pipes.

Underground is pretty inexpensive here. Military graveside service, then the town can go party on my dime.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:26:32am

Projection you can see from outer space.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:26:52am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:28:22am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Projection you can see from outer space.

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Hey Mark get a Trump blowup doll and go to your room and shut up.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:30:48am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

A USPS Express box could get you there for $13.75, tops. And the box is free.

And thanks to De Joy the box probably would wind up either sitting in a distribution center for a month, or like the local CBS station showed here in Los Angeles, mailbags were dumped in a parking lot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:30:53am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

IF A DEFEATED BIDEN DOES NOT CONCEDE AND HIS PARTY’S RIOTERS TAKE TO THE STREETS IN A COUP ATTEMPT AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP, WILL THE MILITARY BE NEEDED TO STOP THEM?

especially since Biden has been calling on armed supporters to swarm through white neighborhoods, extracting revenge…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:31:02am

It’s just so awesome to live in a country that’s “Great Again”…

U.S. Image Plummets Internationally as Most Say Country Has Handled Coronavirus Badly

Since Donald Trump took office as president, the image of the United States has suffered across many regions of the globe. As a new 13-nation Pew Research Center survey illustrates, America’s reputation has declined further over the past year among many key allies and partners. In several countries, the share of the public with a favorable view of the U.S. is as low as it has been at any point since the Center began polling on this topic nearly two decades ago.

For instance, just 41% in the United Kingdom express a favorable opinion of the U.S., the lowest percentage registered in any Pew Research Center survey there. In France, only 31% see the U.S. positively, matching the grim ratings from March 2003, at the height of U.S.-France tensions over the Iraq War. Germans give the U.S. particularly low marks on the survey: 26% rate the U.S. favorably, similar to the 25% in the same March 2003 poll.

Part of the decline over the past year is linked to how the U.S. had handled the coronavirus pandemic. Across the 13 nations surveyed, a median of just 15% say the U.S. has done a good job of dealing with the outbreak. In contrast, most say the World Health Organization (WHO) and European Union have done a good job, and in nearly all nations people give their own country positive marks for dealing with the crisis (the U.S. and UK are notable exceptions). Relatively few think China has handled the pandemic well, although it still receives considerably better reviews than the U.S. response.

Ratings for U.S. President Donald Trump have been low in these nations throughout his presidency, and that trend continues this year. Trump’s most negative assessment is in Belgium, where only 9% say they have confidence in the U.S. president to do the right thing in world affairs. His highest rating is in Japan; still, just one-quarter of Japanese express confidence in Trump.

Attitudes toward Trump have consistently been much more negative than those toward his predecessor, Barack Obama, especially in Western Europe. In the UK, Spain, France and Germany, ratings for Trump are similar to those received by George W. Bush near the end of his presidency.

Trump less trusted than leaders of Germany, France, UK, Russia and China
The publics surveyed also see Trump more negatively than other world leaders.

———————-

Trump has us losing so much that I’m tired of losing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:32:20am

re: #127 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Hey Mark get a Trump blowup doll and go to your room and shut up.

There is a whole lot of conservaderp in the comments, along with 101st Keyboard Warrior Division troops there.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:32:23am

re: #128 🌹UOJB!

And thanks to De Joy the box probably would wind up either sitting in a distribution center for a month, or like the local CBS station showed here in Los Angeles, mailbags were dumped in a parking lot.

It’s not like you’d be in a rush.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:32:53am

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s just so awesome to live in a country that’s “Great Again”…

U.S. Image Plummets Internationally as Most Say Country Has Handled Coronavirus Badly

Since Donald Trump took office as president, the image of the United States has suffered across many regions of the globe. As a new 13-nation Pew Research Center survey illustrates, America’s reputation has declined further over the past year among many key allies and partners. In several countries, the share of the public with a favorable view of the U.S. is as low as it has been at any point since the Center began polling on this topic nearly two decades ago.

For instance, just 41% in the United Kingdom express a favorable opinion of the U.S., the lowest percentage registered in any Pew Research Center survey there. In France, only 31% see the U.S. positively, matching the grim ratings from March 2003, at the height of U.S.-France tensions over the Iraq War. Germans give the U.S. particularly low marks on the survey: 26% rate the U.S. favorably, similar to the 25% in the same March 2003 poll.

Part of the decline over the past year is linked to how the U.S. had handled the coronavirus pandemic. Across the 13 nations surveyed, a median of just 15% say the U.S. has done a good job of dealing with the outbreak. In contrast, most say the World Health Organization (WHO) and European Union have done a good job, and in nearly all nations people give their own country positive marks for dealing with the crisis (the U.S. and UK are notable exceptions). Relatively few think China has handled the pandemic well, although it still receives considerably better reviews than the U.S. response.

Ratings for U.S. President Donald Trump have been low in these nations throughout his presidency, and that trend continues this year. Trump’s most negative assessment is in Belgium, where only 9% say they have confidence in the U.S. president to do the right thing in world affairs. His highest rating is in Japan; still, just one-quarter of Japanese express confidence in Trump.

Attitudes toward Trump have consistently been much more negative than those toward his predecessor, Barack Obama, especially in Western Europe. In the UK, Spain, France and Germany, ratings for Trump are similar to those received by George W. Bush near the end of his presidency.

Trump less trusted than leaders of Germany, France, UK, Russia and China
The publics surveyed also see Trump more negatively than other world leaders.

Trump has us losing so much that I’m tired of losing.

The Britain numbers are really something. Takes skill to ruin the Special Relationship but then again when you have a special relationship with Putin, that’s a natural consequence.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:33:19am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There is a whole lot of conservaderp in the comments, along with 101st Keyboard Warrior Division troops there.

I’m sure.

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William Lewis  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:33:25am

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Wife and I have discussed getting underground as fast and cheaply as possible, and putting a couple thousand to some music students to do an Irish jahrzeit concert. Extra for pipes.

Whatever cremation service is offered by the VA and prayer book funeral.

If I have the money (win the lotto, etc) pay for an orchestra & chorus to perform Faure’s Requiem as the service music at that funeral but that’s not likely. A keg or 2 someplace for anyone who has a red dixie cup? Much more likely.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:33:38am

I wonder what the chances are of Trump (or one of his high level minions) telling Customs to hold up those shipping containers for awhile…

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:34:26am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:35:46am
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garzooma  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:37:30am

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump has us losing so much that I’m tired of losing.

Good line. To riff on it: “We’re losing a thousand Americans a day. I’m tired of losing.”

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:37:53am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:38:02am

ARRRGH.

A Massachusetts high school student went to in-person classes on the first day of school despite having tested positive for coronavirus days earlier, officials said.

Now, about 30 people who came in contact with the student at Attleboro High School are under a two-week quarantine.

The mayor of Attleboro, a city about 39 miles southwest of Boston, said the student was tested Sept. 9 and that the positive result came in Sept. 11. The student then went to school for the first day of classes on Sept. 14.

Mayor Paul Heroux said a public health nurse for the city spoke to the family on Tuesday and confirmed that the parents had known for days that their child had the virus before sending him to school.

“There’s no question about whether or not the parent knew,” Heroux said.

These parents should be charged with a fucking CRIME. Full stop.

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Jay C  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:38:36am

re: #136 Eclectic Cyborg

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I wonder what the chances are of Trump (or one of his high level minions) telling Customs to hold up those shipping containers for awhile…

Until he can ram through an “emergency tariff” of $500 a copy on “books by ex-US-Presidents-imported-from-the-EU”…..

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:41:35am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:41:49am

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

ARRRGH.

A Massachusetts high school student went to in-person classes on the first day of school despite having tested positive for coronavirus days earlier, officials said.

Now, about 30 people who came in contact with the student at Attleboro High School are under a two-week quarantine.

The mayor of Attleboro, a city about 39 miles southwest of Boston, said the student was tested Sept. 9 and that the positive result came in Sept. 11. The student then went to school for the first day of classes on Sept. 14.

Mayor Paul Heroux said a public health nurse for the city spoke to the family on Tuesday and confirmed that the parents had known for days that their child had the virus before sending him to school.

“There’s no question about whether or not the parent knew,” Heroux said.

These parents should be charged with a fucking CRIME. Full stop.

WTF is wrong with these people?

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:45:40am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:46:30am

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

ARRRGH.

A Massachusetts high school student went to in-person classes on the first day of school despite having tested positive for coronavirus days earlier, officials said.

Now, about 30 people who came in contact with the student at Attleboro High School are under a two-week quarantine.

The mayor of Attleboro, a city about 39 miles southwest of Boston, said the student was tested Sept. 9 and that the positive result came in Sept. 11. The student then went to school for the first day of classes on Sept. 14.

Mayor Paul Heroux said a public health nurse for the city spoke to the family on Tuesday and confirmed that the parents had known for days that their child had the virus before sending him to school.

“There’s no question about whether or not the parent knew,” Heroux said.

These parents should be charged with a fucking CRIME. Full stop.

If the parents of the other children sued the parents of the ill child, that would probably cause even more people to avoid contact tracers.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:47:58am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:48:34am

The air quality in Scottsbluff was showing at about 20 last night, with an east wind blowing fresh air through here (windows and doors open, yay).

Scottsbluff is back to 80 now and the haze is building here again.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:51:43am

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:52:34am

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

A lot of money and time needs to be spent by Democrats on getting people the information necessary to fill out ballots properly.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:53:10am

Lre: #149 Patricia Kayden

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More so than the MAGAts, I can’t believe people are still trying to pull the lesser of two evils nonsense. I genuinely like Biden and I think his style is just what we need after these past your years.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:53:49am

re: #149 Patricia Kayden

“What if I want to die of unchecked colon cancer?”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:54:07am

One new Covid-19 case in the Panhandle yesterday. There are 794 total cases, of which 92 are active (8 of those are in my county). Panhandle Public Health Director Kim Engel on a conference call said the spike in cases can be attributed to larger gatherings and school returning to session. (The governor removed nearly all restrictions here a few weeks ago.)

Scottsbluff cancelled its Veterans Day parade this morning.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:54:59am

re: #133 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

The Britain numbers are really something. Takes skill to ruin the Special Relationship but then again when you have a special relationship with Putin, that’s a natural consequence.

I’m not uncertain that Johnson, et al (and Farage) aren’t being paid by the Russians. I can’t imagine them fucking up the UK as badly as they are otherwise.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:56:05am

re: #154 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m not uncertain that Johnson, et al (and Farage) aren’t being paid by the Russians. I can’t imagine them fucking up the UK as badly as they are otherwise.

They are conservatives. They don’t need help. See also Margaret Thatcher.

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Jay C  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:56:23am

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s just so awesome to live in a country that’s “Great Again”…

U.S. Image Plummets Internationally as Most Say Country Has Handled Coronavirus Badly

Since Donald Trump took office as president, the image of the United States has suffered across many regions of the globe. As a new 13-nation Pew Research Center survey illustrates, America’s reputation has declined further over the past year among many key allies and partners. In several countries, the share of the public with a favorable view of the U.S. is as low as it has been at any point since the Center began polling on this topic nearly two decades ago.

For instance, just 41% in the United Kingdom express a favorable opinion of the U.S., the lowest percentage registered in any Pew Research Center survey there. In France, only 31% see the U.S. positively, matching the grim ratings from March 2003, at the height of U.S.-France tensions over the Iraq War. Germans give the U.S. particularly low marks on the survey: 26% rate the U.S. favorably, similar to the 25% in the same March 2003 poll.

Part of the decline over the past year is linked to how the U.S. had handled the coronavirus pandemic. Across the 13 nations surveyed, a median of just 15% say the U.S. has done a good job of dealing with the outbreak. In contrast, most say the World Health Organization (WHO) and European Union have done a good job, and in nearly all nations people give their own country positive marks for dealing with the crisis (the U.S. and UK are notable exceptions). Relatively few think China has handled the pandemic well, although it still receives considerably better reviews than the U.S. response.

Ratings for U.S. President Donald Trump have been low in these nations throughout his presidency, and that trend continues this year. Trump’s most negative assessment is in Belgium, where only 9% say they have confidence in the U.S. president to do the right thing in world affairs. His highest rating is in Japan; still, just one-quarter of Japanese express confidence in Trump.

Attitudes toward Trump have consistently been much more negative than those toward his predecessor, Barack Obama, especially in Western Europe. In the UK, Spain, France and Germany, ratings for Trump are similar to those received by George W. Bush near the end of his presidency.

Trump less trusted than leaders of Germany, France, UK, Russia and China
The publics surveyed also see Trump more negatively than other world leaders.

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Trump has us losing so much that I’m tired of losing.

Yeah, well, the big problem (in political terms) is that a lot of this foreign-relations stuff is pretty irrelevant to a huge segment of the American electorate. When it comes to the RTW, Trump, (and “Trumpism”) appeals to the sort of self-referential nativism that can be summed up as:

1. “Who cares what those Stupid Fucking Foreigners think?” and
2. “If Trump is pissing off the SFFs he must be doing something right!

Basically the “own the libs” strategy projected on the world stage. Mainly because Trump and his vile regime know that their “base” has extremely limited expectations for the Administration’s foreign policy:
A) Mindless reflexive support for Israel
B) Mindless reflexive dumping on China
C) Obsessive fixation on being “ripped off” financially.

And any other issues revert immediately to points 1) and 2).

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:57:34am

re: #154 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’m not uncertain that Johnson, et al (and Farage) aren’t being paid by the Russians. I can’t imagine them fucking up the UK as badly as they are otherwise.

I’m seeing that Labour is doing better since they got rid of Corbyn. Agree about Boris and Nigel especially Nigel.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 18, 2020 • 7:59:04am

OT I just reserved my seat for election lessons for the upcoming General Election. At the very least I will be getting first hand information about the election.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:00:14am

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

They are conservatives. They don’t need help. See also Margaret Thatcher.

Not to the degree we’re seeing now, IMHO.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:00:59am
Hundreds of signers this week added their names to an online petition that protests how six Greek chapters have been treated by the University of Nebraska-Lincoln.

UNL suspended four sororities and two fraternities last week for violating coronavirus safety rules. Sorority and fraternity members and their supporters have responded with a petition and letter on the website change.org.

The letter maintains that UNL “failed to provide any justification for its public targeting” of the Greek organizations and asks that the suspensions be reconsidered.

UNL has said some members of the six Greek chapters failed to avoid large gatherings, wear masks and maintain 6 feet of distance from one another.

(more)

Amazing how our governor thinks college students are going to act differently just because he recommends it.

omaha.com

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:02:41am

Not for nothin’, but Beck’s looking a little chonky nowadays…

Step away from the late-night snacks, big boy.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:04:47am

em>re: #161 makeitstop

Not for nothin’, but Beck’s looking a little chonky nowadays…

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Step away from the late-night snacks, big boy.

You know for people who hate the media, they sure rely on media a lot to push their message and yeah Glenn is looking a little big for his suspenders these days.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:05:40am

re: #161 makeitstop

It has gone from “Do not trust anyone over the age of 30 to Do not trust anyone who has a Journalism (I think he wants to include English majors too) degree.”

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:05:46am

re: #161 makeitstop

The party with people that sound like Nazis, Soviet leaders, and Chinese party officials accuses Democrats of being unAmerican.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:06:28am

re: #83 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Last remnants of summer
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:07:42am

re: #159 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not to the degree we’re seeing now, IMHO.

They’re worse. It doesn’t change what Thatcher/Reagan were but Nigel/Boris/Donald are all worse.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:08:40am

re: #163 PhillyPretzel

It has gone from “Do not trust anyone over the age of 30 to Do not trust anyone who has a Journalism (I think he wants to include English majors too) degree.

They hate liberal arts majors because we don’t view everything in terms of $$$$$.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:09:52am

Things are messy in Omaha.

There was a long-time café there named 11-Worth. The owner is a wingnut, and when the George Floyd protests started, he put up a Facebook post promoting his new Robert E. Lee breakfast, because Nebraska famously supported Lee or something.

This caused protests in front of his café, and he responded by closing it permanently, citing how he felt threatened.

At the time, Mayor Jean Stothert (R) lamented how protestors had driven a long-time business out of business. (Snowflake closed it on his own, nobody drove him out of business.)

That protest leader subsequently decided to run for city council.

Now he’s in jail, charged with first degree sexual assault of a minor. A person alleged he assaulted her in 2014 (which would have made her a minor then).

Omaha City Council’s general election is next year on May 11. He is currently being held in jail in lieu of $1,000,000 bail. A post on his Facebook page asserts this is for political reasons and the accusation is false.

omaha.com

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:10:04am

re: #167 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We have a wider or larger view of things than most people. :)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:11:50am

re: #161 makeitstop

Not for nothin’, but Beck’s looking a little chonky nowadays…

Step away from the late-night snacks, big boy.

Journalists are an enemy of mankind? People who keep records in real time?

It seems like people see Alex Jones circling the drain and they want to take over his spot at the top of Wingnuttia.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:12:58am

re: #169 PhillyPretzel

We have a wider or larger view of things than most people. :)

We do. Being a history major and frequently reading history has helped me understand the madness more.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:13:06am

re: #116 Decatur Deb

What’s wrong with a shoebox off the Fort Pitt Bridge? (Though I’d go for the Roberto Clemente, myself.)

I sit at the south side of the Roberto Clemente bridge by Byham Theater on Fort Duquesne Blvd while waiting for my son to come back from DC on his trips there on MegaBus in Pittsburgh. Can almost always find a roadside space there to park and wait.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:14:46am

re: #172 Eventual Carrion

I sit at the south side of the Roberto Clemente bridge by Byham Theater on Fort Duquesne Blvd while waiting for my son to come back from DC on his trips there on MegaBus in Pittsburgh. Can almost always find a roadside space there to park and wait.

Question for you and the other Burghers but do you guys know the McCullough Bridge formerly the 17th and Mechanics? Apparently my GGG Grandfather invested on the original bridge in antebellum period.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:16:05am

re: #161 makeitstop

Not for nothin’, but Beck’s looking a little chonky nowadays…

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Step away from the late-night snacks, big boy.

Sarah Palin has a degree in Journalism, Beck should make her his test case.

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wrenchwench  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:16:17am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:16:38am

The thing about this new right. They act more like Bolsheviks and Stalinists. I’ve started Anne Applebaum’s Twilight of Democracy. Sad to see many people who started as opponents of the Communist dictatorships embrace their own form of autocracy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:17:06am
LINCOLN — To hear President Donald Trump tell it, Big Ten football wasn’t coming back this fall without his involvement.

What’s more, he wasn’t going to get involved until his challenger in the upcoming election, Joe Biden, ran an ad on Aug. 28 featuring empty Big Ten football stadiums with the tagline “Trump Put America On the Sidelines.”

Trump, speaking Thursday on a sports radio show called Outkick, said the ad was “a lie.”

“I saw the ad and that’s actually what got me into gear,” Trump said.

As Trump takes credit for return of Big Ten football, league officials point to other reasons (Omaha World-Herald, more at the link)

In other words, the OWH will use “lie” when Trump refers to Biden, but will not use “lie” when Trump lied about the Big Ten’s decision-making.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:17:54am

re: #174 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

Sarah Palin has a degree in Journalism, Beck should make her his test case.

Listen I’m not saying all business majors are greedy capitalists who should have their profits nationalized but I am saying a lot of people major in business because they want quick money.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:18:35am

re: #174 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

Sarah Palin has a degree in Journalism, Beck should make her his test case.

She of “all of them, Katie” has a journalism degree? Maybe a college degree isn’t what I thought one might be after all. /s

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:19:33am

re: #172 Eventual Carrion

I sit at the south side of the Roberto Clemente bridge by Byham Theater on Fort Duquesne Blvd while waiting for my son to come back from DC on his trips there on MegaBus in Pittsburgh. Can almost always find a roadside space there to park and wait.

I used to walk across it routinely when it was the 6th (or 7th) Street Bridge, on my way from the North Side. One night I walked across it with everything I owned and got on a Greyhound to NYC.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:22:35am

I’m off to bed. Wake me up if someone starts a war.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:32:51am

Tropical Storm Wilfred has formed in the eastern Atlantic.

If the tropical depression in the Bay of Campeche develops into a storm today, we’ve run out of names on the list and it becomes Greek letter Alpha.

What happens if you have a destructive hurricane with a Greek letter for a name? Do you retire the letter from the Greek alphabet? Are we obliged to tell Greece they may not use that letter anymore in their language?

Tropical Depression Twenty-two is expected to become a tropical storm later today.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:33:57am

I like this.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:35:28am

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:38:35am

re: #143 jaunte

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NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION, YOU COLLUSION!!!!!!!

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:42:31am

He sounds like every third-rate lounge comedian in Vegas.

And notice he has to wave them on to get the ‘Lock her up’ chant going. It doesn’t have the same magic it had four years ago.

Trump Fatigue is a thing, even among the MAGATs.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:43:42am

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He is currently being held in jail in lieu of $1,000,000 bail. A post on his Facebook page asserts this is for political reasons and the accusation is false.

These days who knows. 😕

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:52:12am

re: #185 Eventual Carrion

NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION, NO COLLUSION, YOU COLLUSION!!!!!!!

Since yours follows #184, we’ll change it to:

NO COLLISION, NO COLLISION, NO COLLISION, YOU COLLISION!!!!!!!

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:53:06am
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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:54:15am

re: #188 Belafon

Since yours follows #184, we’ll change it to:

Exactly what I saw!

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Citizen K  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:55:12am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:55:19am
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dangerman  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:57:48am

the hill

Democratic nominee Joe Biden acknowledged the existence of white privilege in his own life Thursday, saying his privileged experiences as a white man have benefited him.

“Sure, I’ve benefited just because I don’t have to go through what my Black brothers and sisters have had to go through,” Biden told CNN’s Anderson Cooper in a televised town hall event.
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The former vice president’s comments came after journalist Bob Woodward released a recording of an interview with President Trump, in which the former real estate mogul dismissed a question about white privilege, saying the veteran reporter had “drank the Kool-Aid.”

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 18, 2020 • 8:59:50am

QAnon is a Nazi Cult, Rebranded

A secret cabal is taking over the world. They kidnap children, slaughter, and eat them to gain power from their blood. They control high positions in government, banks, international finance, the news media, and the church. They want to disarm the police. They promote homosexuality and pedophilia. They plan to mongrelize the white race so it will lose its essential power.

Does this conspiracy theory sound familiar? It is. The same narrative has been repackaged by QAnon.

I have studied and worked to prevent genocide for forty years. Genocide Watch and the Alliance Against Genocide, the first international anti-genocide coalition, see such hate-filled conspiracy theories as early warning signs of deadly genocidal violence.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:01:27am

re: #173 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Question for you and the other Burghers but do you guys know the McCullough Bridge formerly the 17th and Mechanics? Apparently my GGG Grandfather invested on the original bridge in antebellum period.

When my son takes Amtrak to DC (his girlfriend lives and works in DC) I take the 579 bridge over the Allegheny just before the David McCullough bridge to get back to 279 to head north home. Can’t say I have ever been across the McCullough bridge.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:03:16am

She asked for $5,000 from the Trump Campaign for calling her.

I’d ask for $10,000 MINIMUM!

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:03:55am

re: #180 Decatur Deb

I used to walk across it routinely when it was the 6th (or 7th) Street Bridge, on my way from the North Side. One night I walked across it with everything I owned and got on a Greyhound to NYC.

Yeah the Greyhound station and the MegaBus station are only a block or so away from each other off 10th street.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:10:14am

Casey, I’d like to make a long distance dedication to the Trump Campaign!

Stan Freberg - Try

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:11:55am

We need a new RICO statute: Russian Influenced Conservative Organizations.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:18:05am

*snort*
This person owes me a keyboard.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:19:45am
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A Cranky One  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:22:15am

Samuel L. Jackson Alexa Voice Adds 5X Explicit Content, Gets Wake Word - Variety
variety.com

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:24:19am

If, if, if….

NYT doing their best to prop up the lounge act. Again.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:25:53am

re: #205 makeitstop

If, if, if….

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NYT doing their best to prop up the lounge act. Again.

Let’s ask Nate.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:27:37am

re: #205 makeitstop

If, if, if….

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NYT doing their best to prop up the lounge act. Again.

It looks like they just subtracted approximately five from every poll.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:30:00am

re: #207 Belafon

It looks like they just subtracted approximately five from every poll.

We need to be five points ahead to be two points behind.

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Jay C  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:35:10am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

We need to be five points ahead to be two points behind.

So work to build up a seven-point lead?
Actually, seems doable in a lot of places…..

And yeah, this seems to be a proper place for a hearty FTFNYT!!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:38:29am

re: #205 makeitstop

If, if, if….

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NYT doing their best to prop up the lounge act. Again.

Nathan’s an idiot. Can people stop goddamn acting like it’s gonna be a 2016 redux. Biden’s a different candidate, Trump isn’t able to hide behind empty rhetoric, & and oh yeah there’s a pandemic that Trump mishandled.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:39:23am

We need to stop living in the wreckage of 2016 and live in the present of 2020.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:40:11am

re: #209 Jay C

So work to build up a seven-point lead?
Actually, seems doable in a lot of places…..

And yeah, this seems to be a proper place for a hearty FTFNYT!!

We’re facing ratfuckery from red-state governors, Russians, the USPS, free-air media, freshly-minted judges, the EC, amateur randos, and Methodists. If I can make up 3 points, I’m happy. And if that means we end up 10 points ahead that’s even cooler.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:41:37am

re: #211 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We need to stop living in the wreckage of 2016 and live in the present of 2020.

The present of 2020 IS the wreckage of 2016.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:41:59am

We can’t afford for the NYSlimes to be right, as they have been once in a while in the past.
Accordingly:
GET OUT THE VOTE!
Fight Republican voter suppression by supporting the very competent activist organizations (ACLU etc.) who oppose it in court.
Keep protest legal and peaceful, do not allow rioting, looting or anything else that will play into the fascists’ hands.
Prepare to defend yourselves and your homes against RW vigilantes and terrorists during and after the election.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:42:05am

I just downloaded TikTok fire the fuck of it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:43:59am

re: #213 Sherlock Hound

The present of 2020 IS the wreckage of 2016.

That’s true. I’m just tired of everyone being scared to admit that Biden not only is winning but he’s running a pretty good goddamn campaign too and so many hacks who go but 2016 are the same ones who have gotten mostly everything wrong since then.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:45:30am

re: #206 Belafon

Let’s ask Nate.

Last I saw, Silver stated that Biden could under-perform by 3 points and would still win most of the key swing states. In other words, Biden is currently out-performing Hillary. Not sure where the NYT gets its data.

That said, stay focused and run up the score.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:46:41am

I remember:
When Northam was going to lose to Gillespie
When the blue wave wasn’t going to happen
When Trump wasn’t going to be impeached
When Trump wasn’t going to poll historically awful for an incumbent.

Fear the worst but fight like hell and with some pride instead of reliving that terrible day four falls ago.

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garzooma  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:48:08am

re: #217 Mike Lamb

Last I saw, Silver stated that Biden could under-perform by 3 points and would still win most of the key swing states. In other words, Biden is currently out-performing Hillary. Not sure where the NYT gets its data.

Maybe from Biden fundraising posts on Facebook. Those are often pretty gloomy :-).

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:49:48am

re: #186 makeitstop

He sounds like every third-rate lounge comedian in Vegas.

And notice he has to wave them on to get the ‘Lock her up’ chant going. It doesn’t have the same magic it had four years ago.

Trump Fatigue is a thing, even among the MAGATs.

Maybe Trump’s continuing with his “oldies but goodies” because Barr informed him that there will not be a Durham report before the election. Or at least one that confirms the allegations about a “Deep State” conspiracy to bring him down by lying about collusion.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:51:59am

This Don Winslow spot is brutal.

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Jay C  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:53:14am

Governmental Procedure Trivia Quiz!

A question came up at Quora which (unusually) brought up a point I hadn’t considered and don’t know the answer to.

(The actual question was “If elected, will Joe Biden fire Bill Barr”)*

But the point raised was this: while it’s regarded as “customary” that Cabinet Secretaries submit their resignations to an incoming President - especially with a change of Administrations - is it legally required?

Of course, Cabinet officials serve “at the pleasure of the President”, and can get the axe any time - but (disgracefully) it doesn’t seem too far-fetched a scenario that Barr (or any other of the Trump Gang) would just say “Fuck you, I’m not quitting, you’ll have to fire me!” and hang on at his desk at Justice right up until he gets served with the formal notice of his termination….

*Badly phrased: I’m sure a President Biden would want to not only *fire* Barr, but throw him in jail: but never mind….

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:53:20am

re: #213 Sherlock Hound

The present of 2020 IS the wreckage of 2016.

A cornered rat is my spirit animal.

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Citizen K  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:56:17am

Shit is real exhausting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:56:40am
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 18, 2020 • 9:58:43am

re: #225 Eclectic Cyborg

He is a legend in his own mind and that of his most ardent of followers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:00:00am

re: #217 Mike Lamb

Last I saw, Silver stated that Biden could under-perform by 3 points and would still win most of the key swing states. In other words, Biden is currently out-performing Hillary. Not sure where the NYT gets its data.

That said, stay focused and run up the score.

Saw my hairdresser this morning and while she claimed she was voting for Biden, she believes there are a lot of silent Trump supporters. We must never underestimate both (1) those voting for Trump because they like where the stock market is and (2) those voting against Biden because he supports equality of races and doesn’t want to preserve white privilege. White supremacy retains a strong hold on many white voters.

While driving home, I heard an MSNBC report that Biden’s lead is now down to 5%. I don’t know what’s happening out there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:03:25am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

Saw my hairdresser this morning and while she claimed she was voting for Biden, she believes there are a lot of silent Trump supporters. We must never underestimate both (1) those voting for Trump because they like where the stock market is and (2) those voting against Biden because he supports equality of races and doesn’t want to preserve white privilege. White supremacy retains a strong hold on many white voters.

While driving home, I heard an MSNBC report that Biden’s lead is now down to 5%. I don’t know what’s happening out there.

The MSM both sides-ing everything to death is starting to have an impact.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:07:03am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

Saw my hairdresser this morning and while she claimed she was voting for Biden, she believes there are a lot of silent Trump supporters. We must never underestimate both (1) those voting for Trump because they like where the stock market is and (2) those voting against Biden because he supports equality of races and doesn’t want to preserve white privilege. White supremacy retains a strong hold on many white voters.

While driving home, I heard an MSNBC report that Biden’s lead is now down to 5%. I don’t know what’s happening out there.

High-reliability polls are very expensive and not available for free. We are basically blind to the reality of the moment. We still know what to do.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:09:29am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:12:37am

re: #230 jaunte

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Crenshaw is such a blatant hack. I saw Biden last night. He said he’d trust Fauci’s word over Trumps. Yeah Dan so do most of us. It’s not Biden’s problem that Trump can’t be trusted on this issue you stupid hack who hides behind his veteran status to hide from the fact he’s no different than Ted Cruz when it comes to dishonesty and hackery.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:13:33am

re: #230 jaunte

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No science agrees with tRump, so we good.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:16:33am

re: #228 Eclectic Cyborg

The MSM both sides-ing everything to death is starting to have an impact.

I really think you guys give the cable media way too much power for how they influence people.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:18:59am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:20:51am

re: #234 jaunte

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As I said. I’m voting in person as soon as I get my new address sorted out.

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:21:03am
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sagehen  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:31:23am

re: #236 dangerman

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They still can’t vote for him. Puerto Rico, even though it’s full of American citizens, has 0 electoral college votes.

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:33:43am

That NYT thing above is referring to The Upshot

From bloomberg jonathan Bernstein has two caveats

“One is that the chart assumes any error would be in the same direction, which it may not be; I’d rather they demonstrated the size of the error, which could favor either candidate. The other thing is that the ‘polling error’ here includes the final three weeks of polls in each of those previous elections, but there’s good reason to believe that the race shifted in Donald Trump’s direction in the final days in 2016, so part of what’s being called an error here is really polls taken before voters changed their minds.”

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:35:39am

re: #237 sagehen

They still can’t vote for him. Puerto Rico, even though it’s full of American citizens, has 0 electoral college votes.

My guess is they’re targeting those who move d to the mainland after

Ie floridians

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ckkatz  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:36:28am

re: #234 jaunte

That’s the Fairfax County Government Center. It is where I would early vote. And probably where I will drop off my mail ballot. (Which I have not yet received. Although I received the same postcard that VB got.)

I am kind of amused, because I was there a couple of weeks ago to pay the state/local property tax. (Aka ‘car tax’. Did I mention that I did not want to mail it in as I do not trust the Post Office. And peeving offa government tax office is generally not a good idea. )

The County Government Center is a large facility and was completely deserted. Most of the county folks were working from home. The huge lobby was empty except for two security guards. And I was the second ‘customer’ at the tax office.

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A Cranky One  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:37:30am

re: #237 sagehen

They still can’t vote for him. Puerto Rico, even though it’s full of American citizens, has 0 electoral college votes.

Trump is trying to buy votes from displaced Puerto Ricans living in Florida now.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:37:34am

re: #237 sagehen

They still can’t vote for him. Puerto Rico, even though it’s full of American citizens, has 0 electoral college votes.

He’s trying to sway those in Florida.

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A Cranky One  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:40:30am

re: #242 Belafon

He’s trying to sway those in Florida.

I have a feeling they know how much Trump really cares and what his promises are worth.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:42:48am
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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:42:55am

re: #243 A Cranky One

I have a feeling they know how much Trump really cares and what his promises are worth.

Yep. That money won’t exist on November 4th.

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ckkatz  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:44:14am

For those so inclined, here is a list of synagogues streaming Rosh HaShanah services. Please note that I have not vetted this list:

myjewishlearning.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:44:16am

re: #229 Decatur Deb

High-reliability polls are very expensive and not available for free. We are basically blind to the reality of the moment. We still know what to do.

Given I’m a glass half empty type of person, I always believe polls that are negative and never believe polls that are positive. And anytime things seem to be going the right way, they are always overcome by bad news. I still recall my joy at Obama’s election in 2008 — but then Kennedy died and Scott Brown defeated Coakley, so Obama’s hands were tied in the Senate, after having only a few months of a veto proof majority in the Senate, followed by the 2010 GOP victory in the House.

We are living in a nightmare world and most of those I know IRL, whether pro or anti-Trump, express certainty that Trump will win re-election. Maybe it is just the experience of 2016 — but the fact that he is polling in the 40’s is reason to remain pessimistic — especially given all they are doing to undermine both confidence in the voting process and the voting process itself.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:44:24am

re: #244 jaunte

Biden should run an ad along the lines of “Remember the Red Scare? Now, it seems that Republicans are scared of what Russia has on them.”

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:46:55am

re: #247 Hecuba’s daughter

Given I’m a glass half empty type of person, I always believe polls that are negative and never believe polls that are positive. And anytime things seem to be going the right way, they are always overcome by bad news. I still recall my joy at Obama’s election in 2008 — but then Kennedy died and Scott Brown defeated Coakley, so Obama’s hands were tied in the Senate, after having only a few months of a veto proof majority in the Senate, followed by the 2010 GOP victory in the House.

We are living in a nightmare world and most of those I know IRL, whether pro or anti-Trump, express certainty that Trump will win re-election. Maybe it is just the experience of 2016 — but the fact that he is polling in the 40’s is reason to remain pessimistic — especially given all they are doing to undermine both confidence in the voting process and the voting process itself.

That last part is a goal of their manipulation. If they can get people to be depressed about the possibility of Trump winning, they can keep people at home. It’s just as much of a tactic as releasing emails.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:47:03am

re: #248 Belafon

I think they’re all getting paid.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:49:07am

re: #244 jaunte

A sitting US Senator is being used as a conduit for Russian propaganda in order to help Trump and it’s just like “what are you gonna do? Republicans gonna Republican” instead of something akin to the peacetime version of treason.

Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were unavailable for comment.

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Citizen K  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:49:44am

re: #233 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I really think you guys give the cable media way too much power for how they influence people.

Look at Fox News and how it’s basically able to set the discourse by fiat. Look at how many consequential stories fall through the cracks because either print or television media don’t cover it at all or give it a pittance before covering their next Trump Safari and the like.

I’m continually arguing that even in the age of social media and the like, we’re not giving the ‘old media’ ENOUGH credit for how much it still shapes nigh unto everything, if not for what it covers, then for exactly what it doesn’t.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:49:56am
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jaunte  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:50:40am

Russ Vought
@RussVought45
Director, Office of Management and Budget.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:52:35am

Un-American Snitch Email, the ultimate patriotism.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:52:44am

re: #252 Citizen K

Look at Fox News and how it’s basically able to set the discourse by fiat. Look at how many consequential stories fall through the cracks because either print or television media don’t cover it at all or give it a pittance before covering their next Trump Safari and the like.

I’m continually arguing that even in the age of social media and the like, we’re not giving the ‘old media’ ENOUGH credit for how much it still shapes nigh unto everything, if not for what it covers, then for exactly what it doesn’t.

I guess. I just think you guys scare too easily. I’m judging based on what I see. That’s my home county you’re seeing people pack the lines to early vote for. Va isn’t the tipping point but I’m optimistic. I really think people are fed up with this shit show.

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2020 • 10:54:02am
“A Court of Claims judge ruled that Michigan clerks must accept late ballots so long as they are postmarked no later than November 2 and received before the deadline for certifying election results, or 14 days after the election,” the Detroit News reports.

Won’t be appealed

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 18, 2020 • 11:02:13am

Tonight is Rosh Hashanah. I want to wish all our Lizard Family a sweet, happy New Year and leave behind the horrible mess that was 5780.

Even though there are only 2 of us I am preparing our usual holiday feast of chicken soup, honey challah, baked gefilte fish, brisket, & apple strudel.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 18, 2020 • 11:02:34am

Van the Man is astrally tweaked:

Van Morrison to release lockdown protest songs

In the lyrics, he claims scientists are “making up crooked facts” to justify measures that “enslave” the population.

“The new normal, is not normal,” he sings. “We were born to be free”.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2020 • 11:04:20am

re: #259 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Dear Mr. Morrison, I’m glad you’ve accepted my freedom to punch you in the gut for not wearing a mask since I must accept the freedom of you breathing on me.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 18, 2020 • 11:04:30am

re: #258 The Pie Overlord!

Thanks. And a very happy and sweet New Year to you and your family. :)

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 18, 2020 • 11:06:43am

Lre: #258 The Pie Overlord!

Tonight is Rosh Hashanah. I want to wish all our Lizard Family a sweet, happy New Year and leave behind the horrible mess that was 5780.

Even though there are only 2 of us I am preparing our usual holiday feast of chicken soup, honey challah, baked gefilte fish, brisket, & apple strudel.

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Happy Rosh Hashanah VB and all those who celebrate it.


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