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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 10:49:57am

Today is National Voter Registration Day. Get it out.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2020 • 10:52:34am

Just checked our registration statuses and all of us got mailed ballots on Friday. They haven’t made it here yet. If we don’t have them by Friday, who should I yell at?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 10:55:09am

re: #2 A Mom Anon

Just checked our registration statuses and all of us got mailed ballots on Friday. They haven’t made it here yet. If we don’t have them by Friday, who should I yell at?

a passing cloud

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2020 • 10:59:02am
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:00:59am

Imagine fighting the good fight from where Fauci is.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:04:23am
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:05:42am

Trump is just drooling all over himself for riots in Louisville.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:07:06am

re: #7 Ace Rothstein

Trump is just drooling all over himself for riots in Louisville.

And we’re so smart we’ll make sure he gets one.

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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:08:38am

re: #2 A Mom Anon

Just checked our registration statuses and all of us got mailed ballots on Friday. They haven’t made it here yet. If we don’t have them by Friday, who should I yell at?

That’s one of the reasons why I had to vote in person. For me, the anxiety levels about USPS right now are through the roof. Recently retired so I’m still settling in to the routine of bills and forms that go with that, and I still haven’t received the Biden/Harris bumper stickers that supposedly were shipped a month ago.

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:11:25am

I am completely glad I decided to take the entire day off from work instead of just the half day that Cox said it was going to use for upgrading to fiber. My cable has already dropped twice this morning.

Even though I am officially off work today, I am now dialed into a call because I asked for the meeting. That call is on my work cellphone while I am on my personal cellphone.

ETA I just checked the Cox app, my cable is going to be down for the next 3.5 hours and this is obviously much earlier than the noon Cox said it would get started.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:13:05am

They have decided that “two weeks” is the maximum American attention span, but for most people it’s more like two minutes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:19:18am

re: #11 The Pie Overlord!

They have decided that “two weeks” is the maximum American attention span, but for most people it’s more like two minutes.

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2 weeks? 2 weeks!

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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:22:46am

re: #11 The Pie Overlord!

They have decided that “two weeks” is the maximum American attention span, but for most people it’s more like two minutes.

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1/13th of a Friedman Unit.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:23:04am

What a bed bug.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:25:20am
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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:26:44am

re: #14 DodgerFan1988

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What a bed bug.

I bet that if you scratched Michael Steel, Rick Wilson, or Steve Schmidt about it, they’d have to admit the same thing. They hate Trump but they’re conservatives.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:28:48am

re: #16 stpaulbear

I bet that if you scratched Michael Steel, Rick Wilson, or Steve Schmidt about it, they’d have to admit the same thing. They hate Trump but they’re conservatives.

They’ve already announced that the next president should get to pick the nominee.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:29:21am

Recommended:

May every woman find her Marty Ginsburg, by Michelle Ruiz, Vogue

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gocart mozart  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:30:21am

Jim Hoft is still #1

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:30:59am

re: #14 DodgerFan1988

As a Never Trump conservative, @mattklewis gets a lot of heat “when I support something Trump wants to do,” like the Supreme Court justice nomination.

“If you are a conservative, then you should support the kinds of judges Trump is likely to nominate.”

What a bed bug.

“The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy.” We knew this already.

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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:33:03am

re: #17 Belafon

They’ve already announced that the next president should get to pick the nominee.

But they’d prefer another conservative judge on the bench. That’s Lewis’ point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:33:56am

re: #7 Ace Rothstein

Trump is just drooling all over himself for riots in Louisville.

Mitch’s home town

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:34:38am

Well this will certainly help calm emotions in Louisville. Sigh.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:35:06am

re: #21 stpaulbear

But they’d prefer another conservative judge on the bench. That’s Lewis’ point.

Lewis supports letting DT do the choosing. The others do not. These two things are not like each other.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:35:43am

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mitch’s home town

Not originally. Sheffield AL. Roll Tide.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:36:12am

re: #23 BeachDem

Well this will certainly help calm emotions in Louisville. Sigh.

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OMFG, how stoopid.

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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:36:59am

Off to the doctor…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:37:04am

re: #25 Decatur Deb

Not originally. Sheffield AL. Roll Tide.

I know, but Alabama refuses to take him back

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:37:06am

re: #26 retired cynic

Hate causes brain atrophy.

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:37:32am

re: #14 DodgerFan1988

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:38:50am

re: #21 stpaulbear

But they’d prefer another conservative judge on the bench. That’s Lewis’ point.

The difference being that Lewis want’s a judge Trump would nominate. They don’t seem to be inclined to want that.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:39:17am

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know, but Alabama refuses to take him back

Not stupid and mean enough for our GOP.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:41:09am

Democrats largely powerless to stop GOP from confirming Trump’s court choice

Senate Democrats and their liberal allies confronted the grim reality Monday that they have no path to blocking President Trump’s pending Supreme Court nomination other than a political pressure campaign that peels away a minimum of four GOP votes.
Deep into their sixth year in the minority, Democrats can use some procedural tactics that might briefly slow the confirmation process, but if at least 50 Republicans approve of Trump’s pick to replace the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg, that nominee is certain to be seated.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:41:17am

thegreatpoolpondconversion - 200920 edition —————————->
“Detour”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:42:42am

I really hope Trump sees the inside of a prison cell eventually.

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:42:49am

re: #11 The Pie Overlord!

They have decided that “two weeks” is the maximum American attention span, but for most people it’s more like two minutes.

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‘vision’
so no actual ‘plan’
that was gonna be signed in ‘two weeks’
back in july

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:44:35am

re: #21 stpaulbear

But they’d prefer another conservative judge on the bench. That’s Lewis’ point.

proof yet again that the court is not about justice or being a part of the system of checks and balances

it’s only about ‘getting what we want’

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:44:36am

re: #36 dangerman

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:47:50am

re: #36 dangerman

His vision is: Destroy Obamacare.

That’s it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:48:41am

re: #23 BeachDem

Well this will certainly help calm emotions in Louisville. Sigh.

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The Bull O’Connors of this country were temporarily silenced but they always remained lurking in the background, ready to reappear under the right conditions. And now they have a friend in the president who urges them on. This is a war for the soul of our nation that we cannot afford to lose.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:49:25am

re: #33 retired cynic

Democrats largely powerless to stop GOP from confirming Trump’s court choice

Democrats largely powerless to stop GOP from confirming Trump’s court choice

They can try a few things, but really this is a lesson to every liberal that just because everything was looking pretty good doesn’t mean that there aren’t people willing to destroy it.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:50:49am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:51:26am
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sagehen  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:51:45am

re: #13 stpaulbear

1/13th of a Friedman Unit.

But 20% more than a Scaramucci.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:52:05am

Republicans are salivating at their chance to criminalize abortion. That’s their endgame with this SCOTUS bullshit.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:52:22am

re: #8 Decatur Deb

And we’re so smart we’ll make sure he gets one.

If those officers don’t stand trial for what happened, burn it down.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:52:41am

re: #43 Dread Pirate Ron

They support the right of the middle class to look down on the lower class.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:52:51am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:54:39am

The Johns Hopkins numbers, which have been the most conservative, have now cleared 200 000 for the U.S.

We’re also on track to hit a million deaths worldwide by the end of the week.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:55:17am
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:55:31am

re: #30 mmmirele

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Mike Lamb  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:55:52am

re: #45 teleskiguy

Republicans are salivating at their chance to criminalize abortion. That’s their endgame with this SCOTUS bullshit.

We’ll be lucky if that is the only thing they attack. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a bunch of states pass new rounds of anti-sodomy laws. Marriage equality will be on the table again. Birth control.

The fact is that I think pushing the nom through is going to cost them electorally, and may ensure a Dem Senate. But the GOP is betting that the legislation they can’t block on procedural grounds will get overturned by their big bro in SCOTUS. This is very much a “lose the battle, win the war” approach.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:57:44am

re: #48 Kilroy was here

What do outstanding fines have to do with voting rights? Oh, right, Florida.

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Citizen K  Sep 22, 2020 • 11:58:42am

re: #52 Mike Lamb

We’ll be lucky if that is the only thing they attack. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a bunch of states pass new rounds of anti-sodomy laws. Marriage equality will be on the table again. Birth control.

The fact is that I think pushing the nom through is going to cost them electorally, and may ensure a Dem Senate. But the GOP is betting that the legislation they can’t block on procedural grounds will get overturned by their big bro in SCOTUS. This is very much a “lose the battle, win the war” approach.

Return of the poll tax, mass disenfranchisement, the destruction of any sort of affordable health care, and unfettered power for the rich to do as they please because money is power is free speech, while protest is treason.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:00:03pm

Secret CIA assessment: Putin ‘probably directing’ influence operation to denigrate Biden, by Josh Rogin, WaPo

Not so secret

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Treasury Department have identified Derkach as a Russian agent, but it has not been publicly reported that the CIA, NSA and FBI believed Putin may be personally directing the campaign. Derkach has denied working on behalf of Moscow.
The CIA assessment described Derkach’s efforts in detail and said that his activities have included working through lobbyists, members of Congress and U.S. media organizations to disseminate and amplify his anti-Biden information. Though it refers to Derkach’s interactions with a “prominent” person connected to the Trump campaign, the analysis does not identify the person. Giuliani, who has been working with Derkach publicly for several months, is not named in the assessment.
The CIA, NSA and FBI all declined to comment, but none of the three agencies disputed any of the details of this reporting. Details about the intelligence used to form the assessment have been withheld at the agencies’ request to protect sources and methods. The White House also declined to comment.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:00:08pm
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William Lewis  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:00:33pm

re: #52 Mike Lamb

We’ll be lucky if that is the only thing they attack. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a bunch of states pass new rounds of anti-sodomy laws. Marriage equality will be on the table again. Birth control.

The fact is that I think pushing the nom through is going to cost them electorally, and may ensure a Dem Senate. But the GOP is betting that the legislation they can’t block on procedural grounds will get overturned by their big bro in SCOTUS. This is very much a “lose the battle, win the war” approach.

This is why the first two things a Democratic senate has to do is nuke the filibuster and pack the Supreme Court to 15.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:00:56pm

re: #52 Mike Lamb

We’ll be lucky if that is the only thing they attack. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a bunch of states pass new rounds of anti-sodomy laws. Marriage equality will be on the table again. Birth control.

The fact is that I think pushing the nom through is going to cost them electorally, and may ensure a Dem Senate. But the GOP is betting that the legislation they can’t block on procedural grounds will get overturned by their big bro in SCOTUS. This is very much a “lose the battle, win the war” approach.

They will not stop with abortion and birth control. They will kill same sex marriage, kill the Loving Decision, throw out all of the Voting Rights and Civil Rights acts and reinstate segregation in the name of Jesus. Oh and Labor Unions will also be a thing of the past as well. Back to the Lochner Court where Wall Street controls the country with a golden fist…

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dangerman  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:01:09pm
“The president never downplayed critical health information.”

— White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, at a press briefing, despite an audio tape of President Trump telling Bob Woodward he was downplaying the threat of the coronavirus.

she’s totally shameless

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:01:55pm

re: #59 dangerman

— White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, at a press briefing, despite an audio tape of President Trump telling Bob Woodward he was downplaying the threat of the coronavirus.

she’s totally shameless

They all are.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:02:06pm

re: #59 dangerman

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:02:23pm

re: #13 stpaulbear

1/13th of a Friedman Unit.

what’s that in Scaramuchis?

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:02:36pm

re: #59 dangerman

— White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, at a press briefing, despite an audio tape of President Trump telling Bob Woodward he was downplaying the threat of the coronavirus.

she’s totally shameless

Time to pull this from the Bacon Archives every time that shrew opens her mouth!

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:02:39pm

re: #46 Mike Lamb

If those officers don’t stand trial for what happened, burn it down.

No ‘stag like a Reichstag.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:05:48pm

re: #50 jaunte

Sometimes it seems that some liberals forget that Mitt Romney is a Republican.

He only voted against Trump’s ACA reform because he knew his vote would not influence the outcome.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:06:19pm

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He only voted against Trump’s ACA reform because he knew his vote would not influence the outcome.

Same reason he voted in favor of impeachment.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:06:42pm

re: #58 🌹UOJB!

They will not stop with abortion and birth control. They will kill same sex marriage, kill the Loving Decision, throw out all of the Voting Rights and Civil Rights acts and reinstate segregation in the name of Jesus. Oh and Labor Unions will also be a thing of the past as well. Back to the Lochner Court where Wall Street controls the country with a golden fist…

You underestimate them. Their partisans have long insisted on the elimination of the Departments of Labor, Education, the EPA. WIC and SNAP will be disabled in their first budget cycle unless we take the Senate with the White House.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:06:43pm

re: #66 Eclectic Cyborg

Same reason he voted in favor of impeachment.

that, too…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:07:44pm

re: #58 🌹UOJB!

They will not stop with abortion and birth control. They will kill same sex marriage, kill the Loving Decision, throw out all of the Voting Rights and Civil Rights acts and reinstate segregation in the name of Jesus. Oh and Labor Unions will also be a thing of the past as well. Back to the Lochner Court where Wall Street controls the country with a golden fist…

They might try to recriminalize same sex marriage too.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:09:28pm

Turns out that when you’re trying to stop sexual assault on horses and you team up with people that claim to be the most gentle, respectful horse fuckers that abhor all of those coarse, unsophisticated horse rapists that don’t bring a well-polished apple….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:09:34pm

re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg

They might try to recriminalize same sex marriage too.

any anything but the missionary position for purposes of procreation

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:13:08pm

re: #52 Mike Lamb

The fact is that I think pushing the nom through is going to cost them electorally, and may ensure a Dem Senate. But the GOP is betting that the legislation they can’t block on procedural grounds will get overturned by their big bro in SCOTUS. This is very much a “lose the battle, win the war” approach.

They know they are a shrinking minority when it comes to actual popular votes and even the advantages they can tweak from gaming the system is fading.

But owning the SCOTUS for decades will give them time to retrench and rebuild Congressional majorities while they work on reclaiming the Presidency.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:13:35pm

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

any anything but the missionary position for purposes of procreation

And eliminate the infield fly rule.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:13:59pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

And eliminate the infield fly rule.

and outlaw taco trucks

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:14:53pm

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and outlaw taco trucks

The rich can fly to Guadalajara for their tacos.

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lawhawk  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:16:04pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

The rich can fly to Guadalajara for their tacos.

And their pool boys (or girls).

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:16:40pm

re: #50 jaunte

His father was a good governor and good human being. It is sad to see how this Romney has so fallen. In the 1990’s he supported a woman’s right to choose and later, as governor of Massachusetts, he instituted Romneycare which was the prototype of the ACA. His Presidential run in 2012 was disgraceful; he abandoned his support for health care instead of taking ownership of Obama’s program. His last stand of independence was his vote to convict Trump. But, despite occasional rhetoric to the contrary, he certainly has morphed into the typical modern Republican, with no loyalty to the Constitution or this nation. Party over country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:16:57pm

Meanwale in Whiles:

Internet: Old TV caused village broadband outages for 18 months

The mystery of why an entire village lost its broadband every morning at 7am was solved when engineers discovered an old television was to blame.

An unnamed householder in Aberhosan, Powys, was unaware the old set would emit a signal which would interfere with the entire village’s broadband.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:17:32pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:17:52pm

re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter

. His last stand of independence was his vote to convict Trump.

Which he only did because he knew his vote was irrelevant in changing the outcome…

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:19:27pm

re: #70 The Ghost of a Flea

Turns out that when you’re trying to stop sexual assault on horses and you team up with people that claim to be the most gentle, respectful horse fuckers that abhor all of those coarse, unsophisticated horse rapists that don’t bring a well-polished apple….

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:20:51pm

“This time, the pimp will actually mean the nice thing’s he’s saying and it will be different.”

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:22:26pm

Pentagon used taxpayer money meant for masks and swabs to make jet engine parts and body armor
Shortly after Congress passed the Cares Act, the Pentagon began directing pandemic-related money to defense contractors. By Aaron Gregg and Yeganeh Torbati, WaPo

Surprised, we aren’t.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:23:16pm

re: #65 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He only voted against Trump’s ACA reform because he knew his vote would not influence the outcome.

I don’t recall this — what bill was that?

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:23:33pm

Speaking of cults, the Russian police swept in and arrested Sergei Torop aka Vissarion, who, for the last three decades has claimed he is Jesus. Torop lived at a commune in Siberia, near Krasnoyarsk.

Helicopters and armed officers stormed communities run by Sergei Torop, known to his followers as Vissarion, and arrested him and two of his aides. Russia’s investigative committee said it would charge him with organising an illegal religious organisation, alleging that the cult extorted money from followers and subjected them to emotional abuse.

*snip*
Torop, who lost his job as a traffic officer in 1989, claimed he experienced an “awakening” as the Soviet regime began to collapse. In 1991 he founded a movement now known as the Church of the Last Testament.

Several thousand followers live in a series of remote hamlets in the Krasnoyarsk region in Siberia. Converts to the cult have included professionals from across Russia as well as pilgrims from abroad.

theguardian.com

This being Russia, I suspect that while some of the charges may be true, the whole “organising an illegal religious organisation” has more to do with the Russian Orthodox Church trying to eliminate competition, as similar charges have been brought against Scientology and the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia. And given our extreme deference to churches (see: First Amendment) it’s not something that would happen here.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:24:09pm

Another victory for voting rights, this time in N.C.

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Citizen K  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:24:13pm

BOTH SIDES SAME THING, MOTHERFUCKERS, BOTH SIDES SAME THING!!

It’s almost like this kind of shit is the exact reason the polarization that Matt generally is decrying without pointing fingers happened. But no, it’s a ‘systemic issue’ that just apparently sprung up out of nowhere.

Fuck this entire shit. You’re part of the fucking problem Matt. And you’ll continue to be part of the problem by doing this shit, all the while letting the GOP get away with this because when all sides to blame, no one is to blame and therefore there’s ‘nothing to be done’. Fuck you, fuck you, and especially fuck you.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:26:04pm
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:27:02pm

re: #79 Dread Pirate Ron

That’s one I would love to find a way to send anonymously to everyone I work with.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:27:26pm

re: #84 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t recall this — what bill was that?

maybe I confused it with impeachment but I also think he voted against Trump’s early attempt to repeal ACA

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:27:54pm

re: #87 Citizen K

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BOTH SIDES SAME THING, MOTHERFUCKERS, BOTH SIDES SAME THING!!

It’s almost like this kind of shit is the exact reason the polarization that Matt generally is decrying without pointing fingers happened. But no, it’s a ‘systemic issue’ that just apparently sprung up out of nowhere.

Fuck this entire shit. You’re part of the fucking problem Matt. And you’ll continue to be part of the problem by doing this shit, all the while letting the GOP get away with this because when all sides to blame, no one is to blame and therefore there’s ‘nothing to be done’. Fuck you, fuck you, and especially fuck you.

I’ve never been a fan of his glib elitist BS.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:28:19pm

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They know they are a shrinking minority when it comes to actual popular votes and even the advantages they can tweak from gaming the system is fading.

But owning the SCOTUS for decades will give them time to retrench and rebuild Congressional majorities while they work on reclaiming the Presidency.

Which is why the Democrats must win the Senate and must expand the Court. Both are every bit as critical as defeating Trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:28:21pm

re: #85 mmmirele

Speaking of cults, the Russian police swept in and arrested Sergei Torop aka Vissarion, who, for the last three decades has claimed he is Jesus. Torop lived at a commune in Siberia, near Krasnoyarsk.

theguardian.com

This being Russia, I suspect that while some of the charges may be true, the whole “organising an illegal religious organisation” has more to do with the Russian Orthodox Church trying to eliminate competition, as similar charges have been brought against Scientology and the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia. And given our extreme deference to churches (see: First Amendment) it’s not something that would happen here.

Scientology is a cult and an extremely dangerous one at that. In 100 years it might shed its beginnings, but there’s nothing honest about the organization.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:28:28pm

We are so fucked if the GOP manage to hang on to the Senate.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:29:42pm

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

maybe I confused it with impeachment but I also think he voted against Trump’s early attempt to repeal ACA

I don’t think Romney was in the Senate then.

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:30:02pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

We are so fucked if the GOP manage to hang on to the Senate.

Which is why dontaing and GOTV are important.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:30:09pm

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

maybe I confused it with impeachment but I also think he voted against Trump’s early attempt to repeal ACA

He wasn’t in the Senate for that attempt.

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retired cynic  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:31:14pm

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

maybe I confused it with impeachment but I also think he voted against Trump’s early attempt to repeal ACA

I don’t think so. It was McCain who put the kibosh on it. With only one or two others. Murkowski? Collins?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:32:06pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

We are so fucked if the GOP manage to hang on to the Senate.

The next 4 years would be a nightmare. Crippling austerity would be imposed because the GOP would suddenly remember they think budget deficits are a crisis worse than mass unemployment.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:32:28pm

re: #98 retired cynic

I don’t think so. It was McCain who put the kibosh on it. With only one or two others. Murkowski? Collins?

Yep.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:33:17pm

re: #98 retired cynic

I don’t think so. It was McCain who put the kibosh on it. With only one or two others. Murkowski? Collins?

That’s who I got it confused with.

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gwangung  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:36:20pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

We are so fucked if the GOP manage to hang on to the Senate.

Also fucked if Dems get a majority but don’t put aside the filibuster.

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ericblair  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:37:46pm

my shocked face let me show it to you

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Citizen K  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:40:21pm

re: #103 ericblair

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my shocked face let me show it to you

There simply doesn’t seem to be a place for good apples in police departments these days.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:46:51pm

re: #103 ericblair

I’d bet this isn’t the first or last time this has happened. The push to develop the fuck out of Atlanta and the surrounding counties has been nuts and only got worse over the last 20 years. Meanwhile, there are at least THREE “business park” type developments here that weren’t needed or wanted that now sit empty and are beginning to fall apart because this area is full of people in local governments who are not at all qualified to make these kinds of decisions. I would love to have just a 10th of the money that has been flushed down the toilet.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:48:35pm

re: #102 gwangung

Also fucked if Dems get a majority but don’t put aside the filibuster.

They have to; after this latest McConnell maneuver they cannot continue to pretend the Senate is a gentlemanly debating club in which everyone is working in good faith for the good of the nation.

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2020 • 12:54:55pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:01:04pm

re: #107 teleskiguy

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Please don’t scare me like that! SPELLCHECK SUCKS ON THE PHONE

I took a look at the pic in the tweet and I thought it was Michael “Maxine Waters Beat Me Up So Bad I Had To Cry” Tracey letting his hair grow wild!

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:02:48pm

Ah, I see Brave Sir Romney has again managed to disappoint the pundits who thought he had something resembling principle. Apparently that meaningless vote during impeachment has managed to convince them that a vulture capitalist who thought he was going to be able to ride the corpses of four dead Americans to victory in 2012 is somehow a “moderate” Republican willing to “stand up” to his party’s leadership.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:05:34pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Ah, I see Brave Sir Romney has again managed to disappoint the pundits who thought he had something resembling principle. Apparently that meaningless vote during impeachment has managed to convince them that a vulture capitalist who thought he was going to be able to ride the corpses of four dead Americans to victory in 2012 is somehow a “moderate” Republican willing to “stand up” to his party’s leadership.

So typical of the brain dead DC Press Corpse.

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:07:42pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Ah, I see Brave Sir Romney has again managed to disappoint the pundits who thought he had something resembling principle. Apparently that meaningless vote during impeachment has managed to convince them that a vulture capitalist who thought he was going to be able to ride the corpses of four dead Americans to victory in 2012 is somehow a “moderate” Republican willing to “stand up” to his party’s leadership.

Most US political taking heads lack object permanence. The simple fact is that Romney in 2012 ran the third most dishonest presidential campaign in living memory, behind only Trump 2016 and Trump 2020.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:07:42pm

re: #109 Targetpractice

Ah, I see Brave Sir Romney has again managed to disappoint the pundits who thought he had something resembling principle. Apparently that meaningless vote during impeachment has managed to convince them that a vulture capitalist who thought he was going to be able to ride the corpses of four dead Americans to victory in 2012 is somehow a “moderate” Republican willing to “stand up” to his party’s leadership.

If Susan Collins loses her election Romney can take over as the token GOPer expressing “concern”.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:10:27pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

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The nominee won’t be named for another 4 days, the polling is already showing that the public is against this vote, and the party is bringing in huge hauls from donors. Which is the perfect time for the Dem leadership to do what they do best: Stomp all over morale and call us all fools for thinking anything will change.

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ckkatz  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:11:06pm

On the discussion from last thread about internet connected devices. In the article, there are links to events mentioned.

From the Wirecutter blog. _Not_ behind the paywall.

We Asked Appliance Manufacturers How Long They’ll Keep Connected Devices Secure. Many Couldn’t Tell Us.

nytimes.com

Connected appliances—such as voice-controlled microwaves, refrigerators with touchscreens and online ordering, or Wi-Fi-connected washing machines—are growing in popularity. But unlike with smartphones or computers, we’ve seen little precedent when it comes to expectations for support and updates to such devices. Plus, appliances are expected to last for at least a decade, and they’re a pain to replace. Committing to security updates is the least a company can do, so we reached out to every major appliance company to see how long they planned to issue updates for their smart appliances.

Over the years, we’ve seen a handful of small-time hacks on connected appliances. LG had a vulnerability that allowed hackers to gain access to devices using fake accounts, a refrigerator was hacked to send out spam emails, and a different fridge, from Samsung, left Gmail credentials open to attack. Once, The Atlantic built a fake web-connected toaster just to see how long it would take before someone tried to hack the thing (less than an hour).

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steve_davis  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:11:22pm

re: #57 William Lewis

This is why the first two things a Democratic senate has to do is nuke the filibuster and pack the Supreme Court to 15.

what they don’t realize is that congress is constitutionally quite capable of passing laws that are exempt from supreme court overview.

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Thanos  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:11:22pm

re: #2 A Mom Anon

Just checked our registration statuses and all of us got mailed ballots on Friday. They haven’t made it here yet. If we don’t have them by Friday, who should I yell at?

Most likely there’s a local election office for your county somewhere.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:11:52pm
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:15:51pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

That one strikes me as saying the quiet part out loud. We all know there’s a good chance there will be a vote. Your job, Senator, is to fight it, and make them pay for doing it when people don’t want it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:19:38pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:20:32pm

Bravely bold Sir Romney
Rode forth from Utah Land
He was not afraid to take a stand
Oh brave Sir Romney.
He was not at all afraid
To stand for the Constitution in every way!
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Romney
He was not in the least bit scared
To have Mc Connell slap him down
Or to lose the lobbyist cash
And his support by the DC press wane
Brave Sir Romey
His soul smashed in
And his heart cut out
And his conscience shut down
“That’s, that’s enough music for now lads, there’s dirty work afoot.”
Brave Sir Romney ran away.
(“No!”)
Bravely voted McConnell’s way.
(“I didn’t!”)
When danger reared it’s ugly head,
Mitt Romney turned his tail and fled.
(“I never!”)
Yes, brave Sir Romney turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
(“You’re lying!”)
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
And packed the court so sweetly neat!
Bravest of the brave, Sir Romney!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:22:38pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:23:25pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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I feel so fucking embarrassed for my state right now.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:26:51pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:27:08pm

Oh the thought of Nancy passing articles of impeachment on 200 judges and sending them to the Senate to jam McConnell up!

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:32:34pm

re: #124 🌹UOJB!

Oh the thought of Nancy passing articles of impeachment on 200 judges and sending them to the Senate to jam McConnell up!

The only article of impeachment that would mean anything would be of Trump.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:35:20pm

re: #99 NO SMOCKING GUN!

The next 4 years would be a nightmare. Crippling austerity would be imposed because the GOP would suddenly remember they think budget deficits are a crisis worse than mass unemployment.

Two years. And it appears the repugs have figured out that government shutdowns over continuing resolutions aren’t good for them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:36:08pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:37:03pm

re: #122 Targetpractice

I feel so fucking embarrassed for my state right now.

We’ll always have Mississippi.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:37:15pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

I’ve made this analogy before, but it still applies. You cannot EVER appeal to a bullying abusive asshole with reason or kindness or deferring to them. Not if you expect the beatings to end. You have to fight back with everything you have even if there’s blood and bruises and a busted head involved. They simply will NOT STOP UNTIL THEY ARE STOPPED. You cannot trust them, they will lie and do anything to try and gaslight you into thinking that they will stop the destruction and that if you’d just do “this thing”, they’ll be more reasonable. It never works.

If that sounds like a description of domestic violence, it is. But it applies to stopping these evil fucks.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:37:59pm

re: #104 Citizen K

There simply doesn’t seem to be a place for good apples in police departments these days.

How about the one who resigned over this?

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:42:28pm

Even if I understand intellectually why it is necessary to vote Dem in November, after the comments I’ve heard from the party leadership in the past 48 hours, I realistically have to ask myself if there’s a fucking point to the exercise. The picture being painted is the same depressing mess we’ve come to expect: Put up no serious fight, offer up all sorts of excuses for why a fight is actually a bad thing, and then gut any suggestions of consequences for Repub bullying while lecturing us all about rules of decorum that the opposition long ago shat all over in pursuit of power.

Perhaps we can hold out for a strongly worded letter of disapproval after the swearing-in./////

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:43:40pm

re: #131 Targetpractice

Even if I understand intellectually why it is necessary to vote Dem in November, after the comments I’ve heard from the party leadership in the past 48 hours, I realistically have to ask myself if there’s a fucking point to the exercise. The picture being painted is the same depressing mess we’ve come to expect: Put up no serious fight, offer up all sorts of excuses for why a fight is actually a bad thing, and then gut any suggestions of consequences for Repub bullying while lecturing us all about rules of decorum that the opposition long ago shat all over in pursuit of power.

Perhaps we can hold out for a strongly worded letter of disapproval after the swearing-in./////

Isn’t that what you said in 2018?

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:48:08pm

re: #132 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Isn’t that what you said in 2018?

Probably. And to be perfectly honest, I think the current situation is more of a miracle than anything else. If Trump loses in November, it will be more due to the black swan nature of CV-19 than anything else.

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ckkatz  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:48:29pm

re: #196 The Pie Overlord!

Well I have been shopping for ovens. I went to Lowe’s yesterday and picked out this one, but I will probably buy it from Home Depot since Lowe’s can’t guarantee delivery until the end of October.

But then again, maybe I should just wait for the Black Friday sales?

The “Invisible Hand” app identifies four other retailers who advertise this model:
Goedeker’s $1793,
US Appliance $1793,
Home Depot $1798, and,
Wayfair $1799.

I purchased stove last December from Costco. (They use JB Hunt to deliver and install.) It was about $200 less than ‘normal’ price.

On the other hand, I do wonder whether this November-December is going to be a ‘normal’ retail period. Even Amazon ended up postponing its ‘Prime Day’ this year.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:51:55pm

Go ahead GOP. Shut down the government RIGHT before an election. See what happens.

I DARE you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:52:57pm
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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:53:41pm

re: #133 Targetpractice

Probably. And to be perfectly honest, I think the current situation is more of a miracle than anything else. If Trump loses in November, it will be more due to the black swan nature of CV-19 than anything else.

Oh. So all of us donors and activists should just stay quiet at home and save our money while waiting for a miracle. Seems to me you said that in 2018 too, minus the miracle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:53:50pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:54:52pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

Holy shit. TWO MILLION is the bar now? Fucking hell…

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:55:06pm

re: #131 Targetpractice

yeah, no.

We desperately need SCOTUS right now because we can’t get most of what we want legislatively.

But a blue wave in November could change that dynamic, bigly. If we end up with 53 or 54 Democratic seats in the Senate, a strong D House, Biden/Harris in the WH and more Dems in statehouses, a lot of the R policy issues get neutered quickly. Get reproductive rights into legislation, revive the VRA, clean up campaign financing and redistricting, and a lot of the inappropriate role SCOTUS has taken on - which essentially amounts to reinforcing minority rule against majorities that actually want something better - goes away. A Biden/Harris Justice Department isn’t going to go to SCOTUS in support of right-wing causes.

And then? Expand SCOTUS, maybe. But also - Clarence Thomas isn’t going to stay on the court forever. When he goes, if we have a D WH and Senate, we at least get back to 5-4, where we already know Roberts is a little swingier than what will be the rest of the hard-right axis. Breyer is likely to retire at some point soon, and that will give us the chance to get a younger, more progressive judge on the Court for a long run. And who knows what Roberts ends up doing. He’s already 65. He doesn’t seem to like being a contrarian, and maybe he won’t enjoy presiding over a Court that increasingly feels out of touch with where public opinion is headed. And Alito is 70.

If politics has taught us anything in the last few years, it’s to be prepared for surprises. Build a DURABLE majority in the Senate (and remember, the 2022 map is VERY good for our side), and the balance of power could shift faster than the doom-and-gloomers here can imagine.

I’m not thrilled with where we are right at this minute. But this minute won’t last forever, and I’m not anywhere near ready to give up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:56:49pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:57:07pm

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

Holy shit. TWO MILLION is the bar now? Fucking hell…

5 dead in Benghazi.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:57:47pm

re: #137 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

Oh. So all of us donors and activists should just stay quiet at home and save our money while waiting for a miracle. Seems to me you said that in 2018 too, minus the miracle.

I’d have to check, my memory not being all that great, but I’m fairly confident that I was actually optimistic about the chances of winning at least a majority in the House if not the Senate. That I was actually in opposition to those who lectured that lizards avoid any expressions of confidence because it might invoke the terrible wrath of 2016.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:58:38pm

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

Holy shit. TWO MILLION is the bar now? Fucking hell…

And it’s going to keep moving as long as people keep dying.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:59:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:59:44pm

re: #115 steve_davis

what they don’t realize is that congress is constitutionally quite capable of passing laws that are exempt from supreme court overview.

there will ALWAYS be some wingnuts who disagree strongly…see ACA.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 22, 2020 • 1:59:45pm

re: #145 jaunte

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It had better be literally the most perfect health care system ever designed in the history of ever.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:00:24pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

Could be. I was out of here for quite a while, since I thought canvassing would be better than planning to lose.

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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:01:18pm

Back from the doctor. The test came back negative (a good thing). Further conversation with the nurse recommended continuing some meds that I’ve already started, and under no circumstances Google my diagnosis. She actually said that. Apparently everything that comes up on Google is wrong or harmful.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:01:43pm

re: #140 i(m)p(each)sos

Oh, and also…

I think there’s growing evidence that the combination of COVID and the BLM movement and the sheer horror that is the Trump era has awakened a new political force that’s not going away. We saw the first inklings of that with how well things went in the 2018 midterms. If we find a way to hang on to that momentum and keep those voters engaged with Democrats on all levels going into local elections in 2021, the 2022 midterms and beyond, it could seriously reshape a lot of the ways in which Republicans have taken electoral dominance for granted, right at the moment when their party has so little to offer voters aside from “Trump good,” which is going to be a weak-ass argument if he gets an electoral ass-whupping come November.

When change comes fast, it’s an amazing thing. I’m going to hold on to optimism that we’re on the verge of that.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:02:01pm

re: #149 stpaulbear

{{{stpaulbear}}}

I hope you will be okay.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:03:38pm

re: #140 i(m)p(each)sos

yeah, no.

We desperately need SCOTUS right now because we can’t get most of what we want legislatively.

But a blue wave in November could change that dynamic, bigly. If we end up with 53 or 54 Democratic seats in the Senate, a strong D House, Biden/Harris in the WH and more Dems in statehouses, a lot of the R policy issues get neutered quickly. Get reproductive rights into legislation, revive the VRA, clean up campaign financing and redistricting, and a lot of the inappropriate role SCOTUS has taken on - which essentially amounts to reinforcing minority rule against majorities that actually want something better - goes away. A Biden/Harris Justice Department isn’t going to go to SCOTUS in support of right-wing causes.

And then? Expand SCOTUS, maybe. But also - Clarence Thomas isn’t going to stay on the court forever. When he goes, if we have a D WH and Senate, we at least get back to 5-4, where we already know Roberts is a little swingier than what will be the rest of the hard-right axis. Breyer is likely to retire at some point soon, and that will give us the chance to get a younger, more progressive judge on the Court for a long run. And who knows what Roberts ends up doing. He’s already 65. He doesn’t seem to like being a contrarian, and maybe he won’t enjoy presiding over a Court that increasingly feels out of touch with where public opinion is headed. And Alito is 70.

If politics has taught us anything in the last few years, it’s to be prepared for surprises. Build a DURABLE majority in the Senate (and remember, the 2022 map is VERY good for our side), and the balance of power could shift faster than the doom-and-gloomers here can imagine.

I’m not thrilled with where we are right at this minute. But this minute won’t last forever, and I’m not anywhere near ready to give up.

No offense, but all of this is wishful thinking unless the leadership is committed to abolishing the filibuster. So long as the filibuster remains in its current form, even a 54-46 Dem majority would still need 6 Repubs to regularly buck their party’s leadership in order to get anything done. That means watering down legislation, it means scaling back progressive proposals, and it definitely means no bills that would endanger what power Repubs have managed to steal since 2011. And already we’ve got Feinstein and Kaine on record as pouring cold water on the idea of putting the kibosh on the filibuster.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:05:55pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:06:03pm

re: #145 jaunte

They’re healthcare plan was to have the virus kill 2 million people.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:08:44pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:08:56pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

No offense, but all of this is wishful thinking unless the leadership is committed to abolishing the filibuster. So long as the filibuster remains in its current form, even a 54-46 Dem majority would still need 6 Repubs to regularly buck their party’s leadership in order to get anything done. That means watering down legislation, it means scaling back progressive proposals, and it definitely means no bills that would endanger what power Repubs have managed to steal since 2011. And already we’ve got Feinstein and Kaine on record as pouring cold water on the idea of putting the kibosh on the filibuster.

And yet Mitch doesn’t have 60 votes, either, and doesn’t have 6 or 7 Democrats backing him on much of anything substantial. Hasn’t seemed to limit his ability to get things done (to the extent that the conflict with a D House has served as a leash on bad legislation, too.)

If he can do it with 53, so can Chuck.

Which is not to say that filibuster reform wouldn’t be a good thing - it would. Just that I think we’ll get the legislation we want and need in spite of it. It might take a little longer.

I wonder, too, how long some of the older Republicans are even going to want to stick around if they realize they’re stuck in a near-permanent minority? If McConnell can’t get judges and Elaine Chao isn’t in the Cabinet anymore to run her grift… where’s the power base for him now?

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:10:09pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What truly sickens me is that there’s been reports at least once every other week about how little the WH cared about the crisis, with most centering on how Jared basically said that if people in blue states died then it was their fault. There’s more than enough evidence to commence a fraud investigation into the WH’s dealings, confiscating PPE supplies that state and local governments purchased and then handing them over to third-party companies to sell at huge mark-ups.

And yet these morally bankrupt fucks have the nerve to suggest that they deserve credit for “doing something” because all the 2m projections had “if nothing is done” somewhere in the margins.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:10:59pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:11:21pm

re: #151 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

{{{stpaulbear}}}

I hope you will be okay.

Thanks. Me too. This isn’t the way I wanted to start retirement.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:12:20pm

re: #149 stpaulbear

Back from the doctor. The test came back negative (a good thing). Further conversation with the nurse recommended continuing some meds that I’ve already started, and under no circumstances Google my diagnosis. She actually said that. Everything that comes up on Google is wrong or harmful.

They always think their med degrees are better than “I’m Feeling Lucky”.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:12:26pm

re: #156 i(m)p(each)sos

And remember - the Republicans are shouting loudly that they KNOW they’re going to lose power in November.

If they thought they were going to win, they’d play a longer power game. Waiting on the SCOTUS nominee - if they thought they were still going to be in power in January - would be a much better look for a significant cohort of Republicans who are going to have to deal with this issue now in their campaigns, or will have to answer to voter anger about it in 2022.

The fact that they’re desperately pushing this through right now is a huge tell that they know their days are seriously numbered.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:12:33pm

re: #156 i(m)p(each)sos

And yet Mitch doesn’t have 60 votes, either, and doesn’t have 6 or 7 Democrats backing him on much of anything substantial. Hasn’t seemed to limit his ability to get things done (to the extent that the conflict with a D House has served as a leash on bad legislation, too.)

If he can do it with 53, so can Chuck.

Which is not to say that filibuster reform wouldn’t be a good thing - it would. Just that I think we’ll get the legislation we want and need in spite of it. It might take a little longer.

I wonder, too, how long some of the older Republicans are even going to want to stick around if they realize they’re stuck in a near-permanent minority? If McConnell can’t get judges and Elaine Chao isn’t in the Cabinet anymore to run her grift… where’s the power base for him now?

What has he really done? Don’t say the Trump Tax Cuts, because he had to abuse the fuck out of a once-a-year process that can only be used on bills that are budget-related. Beyond packing the courts tighter than a Tokyo subway car, what major legislation has he managed to pass with just 53 votes?

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Mike Lamb  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:12:59pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We already have protections for pre-existing conditions. Unless that use of “executive authority” is to stop arguing the lawsuit trying to take away our protections, what the hell is he going to do?

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:14:51pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This would be a perfect time to remind the American people of that reality that Repubs repeated again and again every time Obama chose to use “executive branch authority” to bypass Congress: Anything done by one president unilaterally can be undone by the next president.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:15:10pm

It’s the Duke Nukem Forever of health care plans.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:15:57pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

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It’s the Duke Nukem Forever of health care plans.

VaporCare.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:16:03pm

re: #163 Mike Lamb

We already have protections for pre-existing conditions. Unless that use of “executive authority” is to stop arguing the lawsuit trying to take away our protections, what the hell is he going to do?

protect pre-existing conditions by letting the insurance companies charge whatever the hell they want for premiums.
Can’t afford it? Sucks to be you, but your pre-existing conditions are protected.
You, not so much…

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:17:21pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

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It’s the Duke Nukem Forever Half Life 3 of health care plans.

Had to update that for ya. DNF eventually came out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:18:41pm

re: #168 Targetpractice

Had to update that for ya. DNF eventually came out.

Heh. Well played.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:19:11pm

re: #166 Decatur Deb

VaporCare.

Vicks Vaporcare.

You know the GOP will trying to get corporate sponsors on that shit.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:19:58pm

re: #145 jaunte

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:20:19pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

What has he really done? Don’t say the Trump Tax Cuts, because he had to abuse the fuck out of a once-a-year process that can only be used on bills that are budget-related. Beyond packing the courts tighter than a Tokyo subway car, what major legislation has he managed to pass with just 53 votes?

He hasn’t done much positive in the way of legislation, true. His role has mostly been to say no to whatever comes out of the House.

So, OK, I concur that the filibuster hasn’t had much reason to come into play in this Congress. And it will be a bigger factor in the next one, assuming the Rs end up as a minority in the Senate. At which point Chuck and the Ds will deal with it, regardless of what they’re saying now at election time. They know the gloves are off, too. And if the Rs push forward with cramming a new justice on to the court, they’ll hand the Ds all the motivation they need.

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ckkatz  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:22:13pm

It seems to me that a major part of a politician’s job is to persuade. Persuasion can be done in many ways. From appealing to high ideals, to noting enlightened self interest, to threats and intimidation. (And yes, some, such as the current administration, just point-blank lie.)

Part of persuasion is to convince one’s own base that one has done all one can to win over the opposing side. It also can test the willingness of members on the opposing side to commit to conflict.

This is particularly the case where the next step might include a costly and lengthy conflict. Doing this helps prepare one’s base to remain and support the conflict.

I read Tim Kaine’s response as part of this first step. He is laying the groundwork for continuing forward to the conflict, if needed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:22:46pm

Just the President of the United States implying the Senate should skip all the questions and just confirm someone right away:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:23:18pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:25:35pm

re: #172 i(m)p(each)sos

He hasn’t done much positive in the way of legislation, true. His role has mostly been to say no to whatever comes out of the House.

So, OK, I concur that the filibuster hasn’t had much reason to come into play in this Congress. And it will be a bigger factor in the next one, assuming the Rs end up as a minority in the Senate. At which point Chuck and the Ds will deal with it, regardless of what they’re saying now at election time. They know the gloves are off, too. And if the Rs push forward with cramming a new justice on to the court, they’ll hand the Ds all the motivation they need.

While I remain optimistic about our chances at the ballot box, I cannot express the same optimism that a Biden presidency won’t be a repeat of Obama’s first term. The reason for that is I don’t see any indication in the party leadership that this blatant 11th hour grasping for power on the part of Senate Repubs has done anything to dispel the delusion that all this is just “ideological differences” and their colleagues across the aisle “want what’s best for America.”

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:25:37pm

re: #93 Hecuba’s daughter

Scientology is a cult and an extremely dangerous one at that. In 100 years it might shed its beginnings, but there’s nothing honest about the organization.

I’m acutely aware of that. I was one of those crazy free speech nuts who made a practice of protesting in front of Scientology orgs back in the ’90s and ’00s. Why, one time, the current leader of Scientology, David Miscavige, came out to stare at me when I was protesting in front of the Shrine Auditorium. Now we have Leah Remini doing TV shows…

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:26:42pm

re: #140 i(m)p(each)sos

If nothing else, we must fight the GOP menace as best we can, since the alternative is surrender, and that is unthinkable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:26:49pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:28:35pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

While I remain optimistic about our chances at the ballot box, I cannot express the same optimism that a Biden presidency won’t be a repeat of Obama’s first term. The reason for that is I don’t see any indication in the party leadership that this blatant 11th hour grasping for power on the part of Senate Repubs has done anything to dispel the delusion that all this is just “ideological differences” and their colleagues across the aisle “want what’s best for America.”

It’s up to us to light a fire under their feet. (As Obama and FDR stated).

The only good news out of this is that a portion of the population is pissed and is willing to light a few matches. None of the problems we face will over when Biden takes over. The Republicans are stupid enough to remind us how vile they are.

I hope.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:28:44pm

re: #156 i(m)p(each)sos

And yet Mitch doesn’t have 60 votes, either, and doesn’t have 6 or 7 Democrats backing him on much of anything substantial. Hasn’t seemed to limit his ability to get things done (to the extent that the conflict with a D House has served as a leash on bad legislation, too.)

If he can do it with 53, so can Chuck.

Which is not to say that filibuster reform wouldn’t be a good thing - it would. Just that I think we’ll get the legislation we want and need in spite of it. It might take a little longer.

I wonder, too, how long some of the older Republicans are even going to want to stick around if they realize they’re stuck in a near-permanent minority? If McConnell can’t get judges and Elaine Chao isn’t in the Cabinet anymore to run her grift… where’s the power base for him now?

This is an imbalance which works in the GOP’s favor. They don’t really want to pass legislation; they only want to pass tax cuts, and they can use reconciliation bills to do that. So they obstruct all through a Democratic President’s term, blocking his agenda, then pass tax cuts and confirm judges when there is a Republican president and they have a majority.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:29:36pm

re: #173 ckkatz

It seems to me that a major part of a politician’s job is to persuade. Persuasion can be done in many ways. From appealing to high ideals, to noting enlightened self interest, to threats and intimidation. (And yes, some, such as the current administration, just point-blank lie.)

Part of persuasion is to convince one’s own base that one has done all one can to win over the opposing side. It also can test the willingness of members on the opposing side to commit to conflict.

This is particularly the case where the next step might include a costly and lengthy conflict. Doing this helps prepare one’s base to remain and support the conflict.

I read Tim Kaine’s response as part of this first step. He is laying the groundwork for continuing forward to the conflict, if needed.

Even if that is the plan, the flip side is such statements come off sounding hopelessly naive to a party base who has made up their minds that the GOP are a pack of evil fuckers. You have to make it clear that there is iron in the glove, that there are consequences if your opponent doesn’t listen to his better angels. Appealing to something that isn’t there doesn’t make you look principled, it makes you look like a fool.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:31:24pm

re: #181 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s up to us to light a fire under their feet. (As Obama and FDR stated).

The only good news out of this is that a portion of the population is pissed and is willing to light a few matches. None of the problems we face will over when Biden takes over. The Republicans are stupid enough to remind us how vile they are.

I hope.

Anger and passion work great…every 2-4 years. So far, we’ve seen that when they don’t feel their jobs are at stake, they couldn’t give a fuck less what the voters think. That really goes for both parties.

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:31:31pm

re: #162 Targetpractice

What has he really done? Don’t say the Trump Tax Cuts, because he had to abuse the fuck out of a once-a-year process that can only be used on bills that are budget-related. Beyond packing the courts tighter than a Tokyo subway car, what major legislation has he managed to pass with just 53 votes?

This is an important point. Getting nothing done suits Republicans, because that perpetuates the unjust privileges they exist to defend. It is reformers that need to pass legislation, and therefore the filibuster must go.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:31:53pm

re: #145 jaunte

Again — the reason that the GOP is having such difficulty in developing a plan is that the ACA is the Republican plan. So now they need to find an alternative that could be successful in getting universal coverage. May I recommend … Medicare For All!! The Democrats hijacked the Republican plan — now the Republicans can repay the favor and hijack the Democratic plan!

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:32:35pm

re: #177 Targetpractice

While I remain optimistic about our chances at the ballot box, I cannot express the same optimism that a Biden presidency won’t be a repeat of Obama’s first term. The reason for that is I don’t see any indication in the party leadership that this blatant 11th hour grasping for power on the part of Senate Repubs has done anything to dispel the delusion that all this is just “ideological differences” and their colleagues across the aisle “want what’s best for America.”

I do think it’s different - not because Schumer and Durbin are going to magically turn into activist firebrands, but because there are factions in the party willing to push them harder to do more, in ways we didn’t have in 2009.

I take Pelosi at her word that this will be a transitional term of leadership in the house, and that she will be entering her last term as Speaker with the intention of a smooth passing of power to the next generation. So there will be more activism coming from the House D side than there was in 2009-2011. There was no AOC and no “squad” then. Now there is. The window has shifted.

The biggest difference, of course, is that in 2008 we might have had some intellectual sense of what right-wing authoritarian rule might do to the country, but we had nowhere near as much firsthand experience as we do now. We enter 2021 knowing things we didn’t in 2009. If leadership doesn’t instinctively react accordingly, we will push them there. (Especially the black and brown and female voters who will be the reason we win seats like SC, if we win seats like SC, AL and even MS.)

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:33:28pm

re: #155 Dread Pirate Ron

You know what might help a little? A PSA on TV a few times a day, explaining this warning and how the information was gathered. Yes the Qidiots won’t believe a word, but you might reach the average person who is too busy/overwhelmed/trying to survive to spend much time on news and politics.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:34:06pm

re: #149 stpaulbear

Back from the doctor. The test came back negative (a good thing). Further conversation with the nurse recommended continuing some meds that I’ve already started, and under no circumstances Google my diagnosis. She actually said that. Everything that comes up on Google is wrong or harmful.

My cardiologist did the same. He advised against using Dr. Google for diagnosing and treating ailments.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:35:51pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Or maybe—and just hear me out for a second—just maybe Thomas was a creepy sexual harasser and Kavanaugh was actually belligerent drunk that sexually assaulted women. I mean, just because GOP doesn’t care about those allegations and confirmed each to the bench doesn’t actually mean the allegations were untrue (and in the case of Kavanaugh, they didn’t even really attempt to actually vet the allegations).

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:36:48pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:37:57pm

re: #189 Hecuba’s daughter

My cardiologist did the same. He advised against using Dr. Google for diagnosing and treating ailments.

Some things are easier to diagnose with Dr. Google than others. My colitis a few years back was an example of this. But the meds for that have consistently worked for me, so I’ve never been motivated to sift through the ocean of woo online for treating colitis looking for anything that may be useful.

What’s irritating is that there is some useful information out there, but it’s a hell of a task to distinguish the signal from the noise.

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:38:21pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:38:32pm

re: #191 jaunte

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I hate how this shit has gotten so politicized. I don’t understand why literally everything has to be pro-Trump or anti-Trump - even basic fucking science.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:38:40pm

re: #186 Hecuba’s daughter

Again — the reason that the GOP is having such difficulty in developing a plan is that the ACA is the Republican plan. So now they need to find an alternative that could be successful in getting universal coverage. May I recommend … Medicare For All!! The Democrats hijacked the Republican plan — now the Republicans can repay the favor and hijack the Democratic plan!

The Republicans don’t give a shit about healthcare, which is why they abandoned their own model for reform so quickly and never replaced it. They don’t want to.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:40:37pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I hate how this shit has gotten so politicized. I don’t understand why literally everything has to be pro-Trump or anti-Trump - even basic fucking science.

Because dividing the country is the only play Trump knows.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:41:03pm

Also…how is having an actual hearing on whether a particular nominee has the fitness of character to sit on the bench breaking a “norm”? And let’s also be real fucking clear here…Thomas was confirmed when the Dems had 57 seats in the Senate. 11 voted for confirmation, while the remainder (along with two Rs) voted against. Tell me again what norms were broken you fucking hacks.

And on more thing…the farcical hearing on the allegations against Kavanaugh was only made possible because Flake, Collins, and Murkowski (I think) voted in favor of it. So once again, those two dipshits can fuck right off.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:41:44pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yes, Dems were so wanting to destroy Kavanaugh that the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee was ready to sit on a letter detailed serious allegations against the man right through the vote, only having her hand forced when the existence of said letter was leaked to the press.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:43:57pm

re: #192 EPR-radar

Some things are easier to diagnose with Dr. Google than others. My colitis a few years back was an example of this. But the meds for that have consistently worked for me, so I’ve never been motivated to sift through the ocean of woo online for treating colitis looking for anything that may be useful.

What’s irritating is that there is some useful information out there, but it’s a hell of a task to distinguish the signal from the noise.

Agreed. Most people don’t have the knowledge to effectively determine if the symptoms they are having are due to cause A, B, C, D or E. That’s what we have Doctors for. Humans also tend to be worst case scenario thinkers. For example, if you have a mild stomach ache, it could be cancer, but it could also be that the taco you ate last night isn’t agreeing with your system and you’ll be fine in a few hours.

Except for sudden serious symptoms, I always give myself a couple of days to see if symptoms I get clear on their own or if other ones appear. It’s where I am after that 48 hours that determines whether I go to a doctor or not.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:44:18pm

re: #197 Mike Lamb

Also…how is having an actual hearing on whether a particular nominee has the fitness of character to sit on the bench breaking a “norm”? And let’s also be real fucking clear here…Thomas was confirmed when the Dems had 57 seats in the Senate. 11 voted for confirmation, while the remainder (along with two Rs) voted against. Tell me again what norms were broken you fucking hacks.

They’ve been nursing this particular grudge since Bork had to withdraw in disgrace.

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A Cranky One  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:44:44pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I hate how this shit has gotten so politicized. I don’t understand why literally everything has to be pro-Trump or anti-Trump - even basic fucking science.

It’s pro-trump or pro reality. Trump and his flocked up supporters live in their own sick , unreal reality.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:46:13pm

OFFS!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:46:15pm
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Mike Lamb  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:47:14pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

They’ve been nursing this particular grudge since Bork had to withdraw in disgrace.

Except Bork didn’t withdraw. He didn’t get out of committee. He nevertheless demanded a full vote in front of the Senate, where he was overwhelmingly rejected 58-42 (the vote on both sides was bipartisan). The whole getting “Borked” or whatever shit they still harp on is, like most GOP arguments, transparent bullshit. The Bork process is pretty much how the system is supposed to function.

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:47:44pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

They’ve been nursing this particular grudge since Bork had to withdraw in disgrace.

IIRC Bork got his votes in both committee and on the floor. There was no withdrawal. It was just shot down.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:47:45pm

This murderer of Breonna Taylor deserve to get the needle, but he and his fellow killers won’t get charged because they’re protected by the Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:49:10pm

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

Holy shit. TWO MILLION is the bar now? Fucking hell…

“Spanish Flu” killed 675,000 Americans (including my grandpa)

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:50:11pm

re: #204 Mike Lamb

re: #205 EPR-radar

That’s really the point: They have spent years repeating this BS that Bork got “destroyed” and had to give up his nomination, rather than the reality that the man was such a loathsome creature that his bid went down in flames.

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EPR-radar  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:50:27pm

re: #204 Mike Lamb

Except Bork didn’t withdraw. He didn’t get out of committee. He nevertheless demanded a full vote in front of the Senate, where he was overwhelmingly rejected 58-42 (the vote on both sides was bipartisan). The whole getting “Borked” or whatever shit they still harp on is, like most GOP arguments, transparent bullshit. The Bork process is pretty much how the system is supposed to function.

And of course, Republicans started the Bork mess by Reagan making that radioactive SCOTUS nomination.

Bork was a Watergate hatchet man FFS, and he was also a clear threat to multiple landmark SCOTUS decisions.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:51:13pm

re: #206 DodgerFan1988

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This murderer of Breonna Taylor deserve to get the needle, but he and his fellow killers won’t get charged because they’re protected by the Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron.

I see that in part of the email in that tweet this person says that the good guys are demonized and the criminals are canonized. Pray tell, what crime was Ms. Taylor guilty of?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:52:05pm

re: #210 Mike Lamb

I see that in part of the email in that tweet about this person says that the good guys are demonized and the criminals are canonized. Pray tell, what crime was Ms. Taylor guilty of?

Being black in America.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:54:00pm

re: #207 The Pie Overlord!

“Spanish Flu” killed 675,000 Americans (including my grandpa)

Based on population size, 675,000 deaths then is equivalent to 2,000,000 today. Supposedly 50,000,000 died worldwide from the 1918 pandemic, the world total now is 973,000.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:54:20pm

re: #114 ckkatz

On the discussion from last thread about internet connected devices. In the article, there are links to events mentioned.

From the Wirecutter blog. _Not_ behind the paywall.

We Asked Appliance Manufacturers How Long They’ll Keep Connected Devices Secure. Many Couldn’t Tell Us.

nytimes.com

I recently bought a new toaster. One of my purchase options was a $300 smart toaster. I love my peanut butter toast but not that much.

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:54:32pm

re: #190 Mike Lamb

Or maybe—and just hear me out for a second—just maybe Thomas was a creepy sexual harasser and Kavanaugh was actually belligerent drunk that sexually assaulted women. I mean, just because GOP doesn’t care about those allegations and confirmed each to the bench doesn’t actually mean the allegations were untrue (and in the case of Kavanaugh, they didn’t even really attempt to actually vet the allegations).

ISTR Newt Gingrich going all-in on trying to assassinate Sotomayor’s character. “OMG, she called herself a wise Latina!! That means she’s irretrievably racist!!”

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:54:58pm

re: #210 Mike Lamb

I see that in part of the email in that tweet about this person says that the good guys are demonized and the criminals are canonized. Pray tell, what crime was Ms. Taylor guilty of?

Same logic as all secret police: If you were killed by them, you had to be guilty of something. Otherwise they wouldn’t have killed you.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:55:13pm

Saw this on my way to the bank just now:

Wider view:

And this one is because I can’t remember if I shew off my new(ish) shirt or not. Backdrop is the most glamorous place I walk by between work and the bank:

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:55:20pm
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Mike Lamb  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:56:10pm

re: #209 EPR-radar

And of course, Republicans started the Bork mess by Reagan making that radioactive SCOTUS nomination.

Bork was a Watergate hatchet man FFS, and he was also a clear threat to multiple landmark SCOTUS decisions.

That’s the thing as well. When has a Dem president ever nominated a transparent demagogue or political operative? Sure, the wingnuts would argue that anyone nominated by a Dem president is left of Mao Zedong, but that ridiculous on its face.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:57:05pm

re: #213 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I recently bought a new toaster. One of my purchase options was a $300 smart toaster. I love my peanut butter toast but not that much.

A $300 toaster better be smart enough not to crack dumb jokes before the $400 coffee maker tells it that I’m caffeined.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:57:29pm

Stealing “herd of feral Huckabees”

[Can’t find this tweet right now:
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]Accchhhh! Deleted for some reason. Stealing the phrase anyway.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:57:32pm

re: #213 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

I recently bought a new toaster. One of my purchase options was a $300 smart toaster. I love my peanut butter toast but not that much.

Yeah, I’m a “no” on the idea of a “smart toaster.” I already get enough shit from the microwave about my eating habits.

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dharmamark  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:57:59pm

re: #216 Jebediah, RBG

I’ve got the same shirt.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:58:07pm

re: #217 Ace-o-aces

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And there has never, ever, ever been a time when police have lied about the facts and circumstances of an officer involved shooting.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:58:44pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:59:11pm

re: #217 Ace-o-aces

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According to the cops, every black man is armed and prone to sudden outbursts of violence. Yet they can’t understand why people think they’re all racists assholes.

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sagehen  Sep 22, 2020 • 2:59:29pm

re: #193 sagehen

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also, Chadwick Boseman.

And it doesn’t have to be all Wakanda.

Do a whole series; the Jackie Robinson set, the James Brown set, the Thurgood Marshall set…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:01:55pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:02:18pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:04:21pm

re: #222 dharmamark

I’ve got the same shirt.

You clearly have impeccable taste and refinement!

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:05:41pm

I remember growing up during the 90s and seeing films like The Net and Ghost in the Machine, fearmongering about how that new-fangled “internet” business was going to lead to hackers using phone and power lines to enter our homes, monitor our every move, and even kill us by turning our appliances against us. Film after film for years whose message was “Don’t trust the internet, people you don’t know will use it to destroy your lives!”

Now we have cameras on everything so we can upload our lives at a moment’s notice, we’re bringing “smart” appliances into our homes because they’ll make our lives “easier,” and the idea of not having always-on broadband internet sends people into screaming fits.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:07:29pm

re: #186 Hecuba’s daughter

Again — the reason that the GOP is having such difficulty in developing a plan is that the ACA is the Republican plan. So now they need to find an alternative that could be successful in getting universal coverage. May I recommend … Medicare For All!! The Democrats hijacked the Republican plan — now the Republicans can repay the favor and hijack the Democratic plan!

Nope. The Republicans are going to go for JoniErnstCare where people who can’t afford health coverage go to a church and beg for help.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:07:39pm

re: #228 🌹UOJB!

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I don’t recall Democrats attacking the character of Alito, Scalia, Gorsuch, Roberts. But then their personal character may be perfectly fine — just not their governing philosophy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:09:44pm

re: #231 🌹UOJB!

Nope. The Republicans are going to go for JoniErnstCare where people who can’t afford health coverage go to a church and beg for help.

Or they can try a GoFundMe account.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:12:19pm

re: #189 Hecuba’s daughter

My cardiologist did the same. He advised against using Dr. Google for diagnosing and treating ailments.

My sister refused to listen to Drs when she was diagnosed with diabetes. Instead she got into “natural healing” crap that led to full renal failure, leg amputations, and multiple strokes before she died.

Only doubled down my intention to follow my Dr team to the last damn letter!

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:15:57pm

It’s easy to sum up the lack of an ACA “alternative” from the Repubs: They don’t care.

To expand on that, they have never agreed with voters that the old system was broken or flawed. They actually object to the idea that there is a lack of access to care, because they believe that if an ER cannot turn you away for lack of insurance or ability to pay, then you have access to care and the system works. You avoid the ER because you can’t afford to pay the bills that you’ll incur? Doesn’t matter, you have access because the ER is required by law to at least stabilize you before dumping you on the street with a bill. Can’t afford the care/drugs that the ER doc prescribes? Doesn’t matter, you got seen by the doc, thus you have access to care. That critically necessary surgery will bankrupt you and have debt collectors chasing your ass until Judgement Day? Fuck you, you have access, now stop whining.

Any “alternative” would have to start with the acknowledgment that the system is broken and needs to be fixed so people are not forced to choose between debt or death. And that’s just not something they’re prepared to accept.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:18:37pm
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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:18:55pm

re: #224 Charles Johnson

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They all look so delighted…and white, so very fucking white.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:21:32pm

re: #224 Charles Johnson

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Imagine being so broken as a human being that you’d risk contracting a potentially fatal disease for that line up. Coked-up Don Jr, Shouty Witch Kimmy G, Dapper Diaper Man-Child Charlie Kirk. It’s depressing how many of my fellow Americans are that broken.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:22:52pm

re: #235 Targetpractice

It’s easy to sum up the lack of an ACA “alternative” from the Repubs: They don’t care.

To expand on that, they have never agreed with voters that the old system was broken or flawed. They actually object to the idea that there is a lack of access to care, because they believe that if an ER cannot turn you away for lack of insurance or ability to pay, then you have access to care and the system works. You avoid the ER because you can’t afford to pay the bills that you’ll incur? Doesn’t matter, you have access because the ER is required by law to at least stabilize you before dumping you on the street with a bill. Can’t afford the care/drugs that the ER doc prescribes? Doesn’t matter, you got seen by the doc, thus you have access to care. That critically necessary surgery will bankrupt you and have debt collectors chasing your ass until Judgement Day? Fuck you, you have access, now stop whining.

Any “alternative” would have to start with the acknowledgment that the system is broken and needs to be fixed so people are not forced to choose between debt or death. And that’s just not something they’re prepared to accept.

This is because the RepubliKKKlan Party whose Real God is Ayn Rand wants the sick, elderly, disabled and weak to die. They want to cull the herd and if millions of people die, they will say it is God’s Will…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:27:19pm

re: #233 Hecuba’s daughter

Or they can try a GoFundMe account.

Godfundme

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teleskiguy  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:27:21pm

She’s settling in nicely. Her and the neighbor’s dog (a French bulldog) are best friends now, they love wrestling with each other.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:27:59pm

re: #238 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

They know that making all these events photo ops and social media posts will piss off liberals. That’s it. And didn’t Kimmy have her own COVID-19 scare not that long ago? They’re both stupid and hateful, not a good combo.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:28:43pm

of course Biden will be prepared and accused of cheating.

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:29:39pm

re: #239 🌹UOJB!

This is because the RepubliKKKlan Party whose Real God is Ayn Rand wants the sick, elderly, disabled and weak to die. They want to cull the herd and if millions of people die, they will say it is God’s Will…

They use Randism to excuse their unbridled greed and inhumane selfishness, but at the end of the day they’re really social Darwinists who ascribe to the belief that natural forces decide who will be poor and who will be rich. And why they pick and choose which of the latter they’ll listen to, ignoring those like Gates or Buffett who still believe in the concept of noblesse oblige in favor of the Kochs and Waltons who regularly argue that the poor should beg for charity.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:30:04pm

re: #243 I Would Prefer Not To

“Race and Violence in our cities”

Let’s count how many times Trump screams “Law and Order!”

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:30:53pm

re: #241 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

She’s settling in nicely. Her and the neighbor’s dog (a French bulldog) are best friends now, they love wrestling with each other.

I somehow missed your original announcement of bringing a new furry friend into your life but saw someone else mention it. I’ve been waiting for a photo.

Daisy Mae is awesome!!! Her coloring is gorgeous. 💛💛💚💚💙💙

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:32:29pm

I see there are a pair of scams put on the California November ballot.

One of them is Prop 22 which will exempt Uber, Lyft, and other app companies from providing basic rights and protections to their workers. We’re talking about things like a minimum wage, paid sick leave, workers’ compensation or unemployment benefits. It also gives these multi-billion-dollar gig corporations a free pass from contributing to safety net programs we all need like Social Security and Medicare.

Prop 22 was written for app companies, by app companies — NOT for workers and their families.

Of course thanks to the corrupted Supreme Court, Lyft, Uber, Instacart and their fellow Wall Street parasites are pumping over $250 million to pass it so they can continue fucking their “independent contractors”

sickofgiggreed.com

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:34:01pm

re: #242 A Mom Anon

They know that making all these events photo ops and social media posts will piss off liberals. That’s it. And didn’t Kimmy have her own COVID-19 scare not that long ago? They’re both stupid and hateful, not a combo.

I get why the grifters do it. I’m sad that they have an audience greater than a dozen fringy lunatics. Yes, Kimmy ‘caught the rona. Seems plastic is not a friendly environment for the covid virus.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:34:29pm

re: #243 I Would Prefer Not To

of course Biden will be prepared and accused of cheating.

[Embedded content]

This is why the debate format needs to be given back to the League Of Women Voters.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:35:16pm

re: #241 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

She’s settling in nicely. Her and the neighbor’s dog (a French bulldog) are best friends now, they love wrestling with each other.

Daisy Mae is beautiful!

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:36:41pm

re: #243 I Would Prefer Not To

of course Biden will be prepared and accused of cheating.

[Embedded content]

“The Trump and Biden Records”: Comparing 40+ years of public service…to a fucker who has spent the past 4 years arguing why he shouldn’t be blamed for anything bad that happened on his watch.

“The Supreme Court”: Wallace trying to spin Biden’s refusal to name any nominees he might propose as “dishonesty” while Trump takes a victory lap.

“COVID-19”: Asking Biden why he didn’t enact federal policies while we listen to Donny lie about how he did an “amazing job” because only 200,000 people are dead.

“The Economy”: Biden being pressed to explain why he wants to kill the economy with tax increases while Trump boasts about a “recovery” that has left 8m+ people unemployed.

“Race and Violence in our Cities”: Wallace presses Biden to denounce BLM/Antifa and agree that they be viewed as terrorists while Trump insists that a cop getting a dirty look from a protestor means “Mau-Mau death squads” are gonna invade suburban communities to kill the white men and rape their women.

“Integrity of the Election”: Trump screaming about mail-in ballots and the dangers of letting Dems count votes while Biden is pressed to pledge he won’t contest the election if Trump “wins” on Election Night.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:36:58pm

The final debate is moderated by a woman. Be interesting to see how Trump responds. I’ll bet he can’t resist talking down to her.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:43:28pm

For anyone who needs a feel good story (complete with some awesome photos).

Family Was Planning To Adopt A Kitten — Until They Saw This Sad-Faced Cat

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:46:00pm

re: #191 jaunte

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:46:16pm

re: #253 Kamrade Teddy’s Person

For anyone who needs a feel good story (complete with some awesome photos).

Family Was Planning To Adopt A Kitten — Until They Saw This Sad-Faced Cat

He looks an awful lot like our cat Smokey did.

Damn dust in my eyes.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:48:06pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:48:15pm

re: #254 Eric The Fruit Bat

Oh, shit. That installer picked the wrong woman to mess with.

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:48:43pm

Governance is too complicated for Republicans.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:48:49pm

Like that means jack to the animals who celebrated her husband’s death two years ago.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:50:11pm

re: #258 jaunte

Governance is too complicated for Republicans.

“Why do I have to waste my time doing shit for the small people?”

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Targetpractice  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:50:21pm

re: #259 DodgerFan1988

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Like that means jack to the animals who celebrated her husband’s death two years ago.

Has anybody told Meghan? Or is she waiting on hubby to tell her who to vote for?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:53:28pm

re: #256 jaunte

[Embedded content]

They could at least have Jon Lovitz do the presser: “We’ll have our plan out in…two weeks, yes, two weeks, that’s the ticket!”

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 22, 2020 • 3:56:06pm

re: #261 Targetpractice

Has anybody told Meghan? Or is she waiting on hubby to tell her who to vote for?

[meghan] I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR BIDEN BUT THEN HE CAME OUT FOR {insert random left of center viewpoint}!! [/meghan]

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:00:07pm

re: #258 jaunte

Governance is too complicated for Republicans.

the glibertarian wing figures “fuck it, we don’t really need it anyways” and the socon assholes don’t want to govern, they want to rule. Trump wants to rule, like the socons, but doesn’t want to do the heavy lifting like the glibertarians. Which is a uniquely bad situation

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jaunte  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:00:32pm
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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:00:37pm

re: #172 i(m)p(each)sos

He hasn’t done much positive in the way of legislation, true. His role has mostly been to say no to whatever comes out of the House.

So, OK, I concur that the filibuster hasn’t had much reason to come into play in this Congress. And it will be a bigger factor in the next one, assuming the Rs end up as a minority in the Senate. At which point Chuck and the Ds will deal with it, regardless of what they’re saying now at election time. They know the gloves are off, too. And if the Rs push forward with cramming a new justice on to the court, they’ll hand the Ds all the motivation they need.

The filibuster is why every piece of cockamamie legislation the Repugs have come up with has failed to pass the Senate (usually, being lazy, they don’t try). Because they need 60 votes to force a vote and they don’t got them.

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BeachDem  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:08:53pm

re: #251 Targetpractice

“The Trump and Biden Records”: Comparing 40+ years of public service…to a fucker who has spent the past 4 years arguing why he shouldn’t be blamed for anything bad that happened on his watch.

“The Supreme Court”: Wallace trying to spin Biden’s refusal to name any nominees he might propose as “dishonesty” while Trump takes a victory lap.

“COVID-19”: Asking Biden why he didn’t enact federal policies while we listen to Donny lie about how he did an “amazing job” because only 200,000 people are dead.

“The Economy”: Biden being pressed to explain why he wants to kill the economy with tax increases while Trump boasts about a “recovery” that has left 8m+ people unemployed.

“Race and Violence in our Cities”: Wallace presses Biden to denounce BLM/Antifa and agree that they be viewed as terrorists while Trump insists that a cop getting a dirty look from a protestor means “Mau-Mau death squads” are gonna invade suburban communities to kill the white men and rape their women.

“Integrity of the Election”: Trump screaming about mail-in ballots and the dangers of letting Dems count votes while Biden is pressed to pledge he won’t contest the election if Trump “wins” on Election Night.

Or, as the Raw Story headline puts it:

Fox News anchor hosting first presidential debate picks Trump campaign talking points as topics

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:12:00pm

re: #266 A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!

The filibuster is why every piece of cockamamie legislation the Repugs have come up with has failed to pass the Senate (usually, being lazy, they don’t try). Because they need 60 votes to force a vote and they don’t got them.

And that was especially true during the first 2 years of the Trump administration, when the House would have been onboard with any outrageous laws they came up with. It was only the filibuster that prevented such actions. One of the many things beyond the capability of the modern Republican party is negotiating in good faith with Democrats.

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:18:35pm

Heh, I just got a whiny text message from the trump campaign about Pelosi threatening to impeach him if he tries to fill the vacancy and how he needs my help now.

I wanted to text back “fuck you, you should have been removed the last time you were impeached” but instead I showed restraint befitting the office and just blocked the number.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:21:13pm

re: #269 KGxvi

I had a local woman who had the balls to walk up to my door - freshly fitted with a video doorbell - and place a Trump knob-hanging flyer on my front door. If I had known what was on it when she approached, I would have chased her down the damn street.

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:26:58pm

re: #270 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This is only the second political text message I have received. The first was a pro-Bernie one before the primary, which I laughed at and then told them “fuck no.” Donny wasn’t even asking for my vote (California, so worthless to him), just my money. And fuck that guy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:27:39pm

re: #269 KGxvi

Heh, I just got a whiny text message from the trump campaign about Pelosi threatening to impeach him if he tries to fill the vacancy and how he needs my help now.

I wanted to text back “fuck you, you should have been removed the last time you were impeached” but instead I showed restraint befitting the office and just blocked the number.

I usually text some hostile statement back to them, though of course there is no human at the other end to receive it. Just feel better yelling at them. But I never threaten violence in case they do have some monitoring software that may detect unlawful aggression.

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KGxvi  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:29:21pm

re: #272 Hecuba’s daughter

I usually text some hostile statement back to them, though of course there is no human at the other end to receive it. Just feel better yelling at them. But I never threaten violence in case they do have some monitoring software that may detect unlawful aggression.

I’ve heard rumors that if you respond/decline to Trump texts they’ll sell your number to telemarketers… probably not legal, but not like that’s stopped them before.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:29:41pm

re: #271 KGxvi

This is only the second political text message I have received. The first was a pro-Bernie one before the primary, which I laughed at and then told them “fuck no.” Donny wasn’t even asking for my vote (California, so worthless to him), just my money. And fuck that guy.

Huh. I’ve gotten at least a half dozen in the last three weeks, all from the Trump campaign, humorously. Well, I take that back - two local candidates did text me, but they were very polite in the intro message and asked if I had heard of the candidate and if I had time to learn more.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:40:13pm

The killing has still not stopped after 77 years, and probably will not for centuries.
Explosion kills British, Australian WWII bomb specialists in Solomon Islands

Two men working to locate undetonated World War II bombs died in an explosion in the Solomon Islands on Sunday.

Stephen “Luke” Atkinson, a dual citizen of the United Kingdom and New Zealand, and his Australian colleague, Trent Lee, died Sunday in an explosion in the residential Tasahe area of Honiara, the capital city of Solomon Islands, situated on the northwestern coast of Guadalcanal.

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TedStriker  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:46:05pm

re: #257 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, shit. That installer picked the wrong woman to mess with.

That anti-mask fucker thought he was giving Yr Wonkette a “fuck you, take it or leave it”, but I think he just did that to his own job…and failed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:50:08pm

How about some kittens to make 2020 a little better?

I’ve been trying to find a home for them for awhile now with no luck.

In the meantime I’m keeping them well looked after.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:54:26pm

re: #231 🌹UOJB!

Nope. The Republicans are going to go for JoniErnstCare where people who can’t afford health coverage go to a church and beg for help.

And be grateful for your bread bag shoes!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:54:33pm

Trump is jealous that Joe Biden is better looking than he is.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:54:36pm
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Belafon  Sep 22, 2020 • 4:54:54pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

Yes, Dems were so wanting to destroy Kavanaugh that the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee was ready to sit on a letter detailed serious allegations against the man right through the vote, only having her hand forced when the existence of said letter was leaked to the press.

The questioning of his finances would have been a far more effective way to have disqualified him, which is why Republicans were so eager to leak and focus on the assault allegations.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:02:05pm

re: #279 The Pie Overlord!

Trump is jealous that Joe Biden is better looking than he is.

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Does this mean we can all speculate about Donnie’s plastic surgeries?

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steve_davis  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:03:37pm

re: #54 Citizen K

Return of the poll tax, mass disenfranchisement, the destruction of any sort of affordable health care, and unfettered power for the rich to do as they please because money is power is free speech, while protest is treason.

im not worried about it. let the court do whatever it wishes. let it end aca. the first thing that would happen afterwards would be democrats, in control of all three branches of government, saying “okay, one thing we know that is not unconstitutional is expanding medicare to cover everyone. let’s do that.” and they would, because I can assure you by the time they put the bill together, republicans would have spent months blocking everything the House sends to the senate, and the senate would vote to change the rules to end procedural filibusters.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:04:32pm

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

How about some kittens to make 2020 a little better?

I’ve been trying to find a home for them for awhile now with no luck.

In the meantime I’m keeping them well looked after.

[Embedded content]

Sweet little furry sprites. What’s their back story?

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bratwurst  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:05:30pm

Getting a LOT of “unavailable” quoted tweets in my stream today, seem to all be related to defending @proudsocialist in today’s flame war.

That tells me my effort to block “red rose Twitter” has been successful!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:07:31pm

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

How about some kittens to make 2020 a little better?

I’ve been trying to find a home for them for awhile now with no luck.

In the meantime I’m keeping them well looked after.

[Embedded content]

Those are sweet li’l kittehs.

I had a weird dream last night, well most dreams are weird but this one was oddly specific in its detail.

I dreamed that a Maine Coon cat named “King Billy” was living in my closet and had been living in there since before we moved into this house 30 years ago. I said to Z “I have to buy cat food for King Billy” and he said “well what has he been eating since before you found him?”

When I woke up I looked in the closet but there was no Maine Coon in there. They are very large cats. No I have never had one. I don’t know where the “King Billy” name came from, maybe a novel I read years ago? Dreams are weird.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:19:02pm

re: #283 steve_davis

im not worried about it. let the court do whatever it wishes. let it end aca. the first thing that would happen afterwards would be democrats, in control of all three branches of government, saying “okay, one thing we know that is not unconstitutional is expanding medicare to cover everyone. let’s do that.” and they would, because I can assure you by the time they put the bill together, republicans would have spent months blocking everything the House sends to the senate, and the senate would vote to change the rules to end procedural filibusters.

I am worried about the poll tax issue: Constitutional Amendment 24 bars such a tax. If the Supreme Court rules that the Florida payments are not a poll tax, it would open the doors for, example, for a state to restrict voting to people of a certain level of means. Indeed, there doesn’t appear to be anything in the Constitution to prevent a state from restoring the old requirements to own property to vote.

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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:22:56pm

re: #227 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson
@Green_Footballs
It’s like “Masque of the Red Death,” the MAGA/Idiocracy version.

What’s going to happen when all of these assholes show up to vote and refuse to wear a mask or distance? Do they get thrown out of the line?

And every single one of these assholes are in favor of demanding an approved ID to vote. Don’t have the right ID, get thrown out of the line.

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Interesting Times  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:32:05pm

I believe it. Pity the dipshit both-siderists don’t (or they do, but arrogantly, stupidly believe they’re immune):

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:34:22pm

Note to Charles. If I get CLd on this post, I’m coming to LA and make some very sarcastic comments in your direction. Very sarcastic.

Covid 19 update. I’ve had this virus for 6 months. My breathing is getting better. I’m mostly short of breath when climbing stairs. Saw my pulmonologist today. He says it takes time. Some Long haulers have more symptoms than I do (even after 6 months). he wants me to do another 3 weeks of steroids, keep on walking and No Gym for another two months. Now that it has cooled down I can do 3 mile walks without killing myself before it gets cold.

I finally got it together to book a short stay in Vermont to watch the leaves change color. I grow up in S Cal, so this is exciting to me. I have an Air BNB and a rental car. The car is expensive, but I have not been out of the Borough of Brooklyn since February. I may even invest in a new digital camera.

The stand up is going OK. No one likes Zoom shows as much as live, but that’s the world we live in. (thanks for your support) I have another one tomorrow. Link here: bit.ly

Thinking about donating more to Senate Dem. candidates. This election is going to be make or break for me. (Not sure what that means, but I think that any more of trump would crush my soul).

That’s the update,

Peace,

FT

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:34:46pm

So, this came from Amazon today. Turtledove is such a good writer I am scared to read his prophecy.

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steve_davis  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:35:02pm

re: #150 i(m)p(each)sos

Oh, and also…

I think there’s growing evidence that the combination of COVID and the BLM movement and the sheer horror that is the Trump era has awakened a new political force that’s not going away. We saw the first inklings of that with how well things went in the 2018 midterms. If we find a way to hang on to that momentum and keep those voters engaged with Democrats on all levels going into local elections in 2021, the 2022 midterms and beyond, it could seriously reshape a lot of the ways in which Republicans have taken electoral dominance for granted, right at the moment when their party has so little to offer voters aside from “Trump good,” which is going to be a weak-ass argument if he gets an electoral ass-whupping come November.

When change comes fast, it’s an amazing thing. I’m going to hold on to optimism that we’re on the verge of that.

the other thing that will do that is that every day, Republican voters are dying and not being replaced. Democrats die too, but young people get older and start voting, and they vote Democrat because they’ve figured out Republicans are assholes. We’re returning to the days of the early 1970’s when the Young Republicans were filled with bow-tie wearing dweebs who weren’t cool enough to be libertarians.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:38:43pm

Now he has added cans of tuna fish to the soup on the Antifa shopping list.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:39:28pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:40:13pm

re: #293 The Pie Overlord!

Now he has added cans of tuna fish to the soup on the Antifa shopping list.

[Embedded content]

People can’t afford to throw cans of tuna fish.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:43:57pm

re: #295 stpaulbear

People can’t afford to throw cans of tuna fish.

Trump can’t imagine people buying food for their family, he thinks that has to be a bogus excuse.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:45:11pm

This is so fucked up.

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Jack Burton  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:52:37pm

re: #296 The Pie Overlord!

Trump can’t imagine people buying food for their family, he thinks that has to be a bogus excuse.

[Embedded content]

If his own damn family were “normal people” and his kids living with them, that would be 4 or 5 cans of soup for everyone. Not remotely unreasonable for a grocery store trip.

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mmmirele  Sep 22, 2020 • 5:57:02pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

They’ve been nursing this particular grudge since Bork had to withdraw in disgrace.

My mother (high school graduate, housewife) watched the Bork hearings and told me she thought he was a scary guy. Mom was no liberal, she just thought Bork’s thought was crazy.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 22, 2020 • 8:08:30pm

re: #239 🌹UOJB!

The modern Republican philosophy has never really fully embraced Ayn Rand. Just like the Bible, they choose only the parts they agree with. They ignore the rest.

Ayn Rand was a militant Atheist- yes, with the capital A. Her patented Objectivist ideology was based on a self-appointed notion of Reason above anything religious- never mind her own cognitive blinders were entirely based on metaphysical assumptions along with an undercurrent of racist fascism.

In college I recall certain Freshman male white college students jizzed their pants reading her utter shite. It was required reading in Sociology. Everyone back then but white males scoffed at the literary license to enable specifically white male Christian supremacism in America. Nobody is laughing now.

Republicans have taken the parts of Ayn Rand they like and melded it with the parts of The Bible they like and made an entirely new religion out of it. It bears no resemblance to anything else in recorded history and for the life of me I know not how to counter it except by letting it fail.


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