Classic Mark Knopfler From the Year 2000: “What It Is”

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Mark performing ‘What It Is’ on the British TV show ‘Parkinson’ in September 2000.
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1
PhillyPretzel  Sep 26, 2020 • 4:52:30pm

GOTV

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2020 • 4:54:44pm

Continuing from downstairs:

re: #179 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

I’m really confused:

Pointing out Catholic bigotry is Catholic bigotry plus the people who are Anti-Catholic are the same ones who will be voting for a Catholic POTUS?

It’s worse than that, they’re preparing to argue that she is in some way a representative of all Catholics in her beliefs. That if you’re Catholic but oppose her nomination, then you can’t be a true Catholic.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2020 • 4:55:44pm
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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:01:59pm

re: #2 Targetpractice

Continuing from downstairs:

It’s worse than that, they’re preparing to argue that she is in some way a representative of all Catholics in her beliefs. That if you’re Catholic but oppose her nomination, then you can’t be a true Catholic.

Today’s conservative Catholics really are more Catholic than the Pope, just ask them.

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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:06:06pm

The answer for them is simple: God is always on their side.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:08:37pm

re: #5 stpaulbear

The answer for them is simple: God is always on their side.

He sure has a funny way of showing it!

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Cheechako  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:10:29pm

The key to “interviewing” Barrett is for the Democrats to lead her down a road of questioning where if she does answer questions truthfully it will damage her creditability to the Republicans and if she lies it could lead to an impeachment after the election/inauguration.

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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:15:19pm

re: #6 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

He sure has a funny way of showing it!

They like the vengeful version.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:16:00pm

re: #8 stpaulbear

They like the vengeful version.

They enjoy the blood, death, and destruction of the Old Testament God, but without all the rules.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:16:38pm

Here’s my question. What does it take to unseat a sitting SC judge? Are there any set procedures? Has it ever happened?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:17:32pm

re: #10 A Mom Anon

Here’s my question. What does it take to unseat a sitting SC judge? Are there any set procedures? Has it ever happened?

Funny you should ask. Apparently, this was a conversation the country had when Brett Kavanaugh was seated.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:18:20pm

re: #183 EPR-radar

Wait a minute. Are originalists getting so rabid these days that they deny the legitimacy of amendments to the constitution?

I have read that Barrett believes neither the 14th nor 15th amendments are legitimate.

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Targetpractice  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:19:39pm

re: #7 Cheechako

The key to “interviewing” Barrett is for the Democrats to lead her down a road of questioning where if she does answer questions truthfully it will damage her creditability to the Republicans and if she lies it could lead to an impeachment after the election/inauguration.

At this point, the best course is one that either forces her to acknowledge the reasons why her nomination is being put forward or show her as being dishonest with the American people.

Repubs want to make her religion their shield? Show their hypocrisy by questioning her on the legality of allowing religious courts to rule on civil or criminal matters outside the boundaries of their faith. Then point out that making her religious beliefs the centerpiece of their support for her nomination indicates that they believe she will not be able to put those beliefs aside when ruling on matters of the law.

The election? Ask her to pledge to recuse herself from any cases brought by the WH, by Trump’s campaign, or even Trump himself challenging lower court rulings on the election. When she refuses or tries to dodge the question by saying she won’t make that decision until the challenge reaches the SCOTUS, remark that you never expected her to do so because if she were the sort of nominee who would agree to such, Trump would not have nominated her and Senate Repubs wouldn’t be so desperate to get her on the bench before the election.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:21:02pm

re: #11 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

TL:DR; a SCOTUS justice can be impeached, by similar means as impeaching a President. That means that in the current political environment, it is impossible, given that the Senate GOP has demonstrated their complete lack of ability to take their duties seriously and act with decorum appropriate of the United States Senate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:21:42pm

Classic and “year 2000” in the same sentence?

Thanks for making me feel old, Charles.

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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:22:37pm

Are there any cases she sat on where she wrote a batshit dissenting opinion that senators could point out?

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:22:57pm

re: #14 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

TL:DR; a SCOTUS justice can be impeached, by similar means as impeaching a President. That means that in the current political environment, it is impossible, given that the Senate GOP has demonstrated their complete lack of ability to take their duties seriously and act with decorum appropriate of the United States Senate.

We could possibly pull it off in 2023 if a lot of things go right for Democrats, but it’ll be easier to put more judges on.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:23:22pm

re: #17 Belafon

We could possibly pull it off in 2023 if a lot of things go right for Democrats, but it’ll be easier to put more judges on.

And in those 3 brief years, a lot of damaging opinions can be written.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:23:52pm

re: #14 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So we need majorities in both chambers of Congress then. If I am understanding this correctly.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:24:26pm

re: #19 A Mom Anon

So we need majorities in both chambers of Congress then. If I am understanding this correctly.

A majority in the House, and a supermajority in the Senate, which is where we hit the roadblock.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:26:45pm
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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:27:43pm

re: #10 A Mom Anon

Here’s my question. What does it take to unseat a sitting SC judge? Are there any set procedures? Has it ever happened?

[privte] HOPE WE DON’T HAVE TO DO TO HER WHAT WE DID TO SCALIA. I KNOW SOROS GAVE US A BONUS……BUT STILL [/private]

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:27:59pm
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A Mom Anon  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:28:28pm

re: #20 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ah ok, so the senate part is what fucks that up. Barring a miracle, that’s not happening.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:29:04pm

re: #22 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

Your tags are messed up.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:29:55pm

re: #24 A Mom Anon

Ah ok, so the senate part is what fucks that up. Barring a miracle, that’s not happening.

Now you’ve got it. The House can vote to impeach until the cows come home, but she (or he, if we’re talking Brett “fucking misogynist pig” Kavanaugh) will continue to sit on the Court unless the Senate votes a 2/3 majority to convict and remove them from their seat. And unless the blue wave in the next two elections is truly mind-boggling, that is a looooong shot.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:31:06pm

re: #25 A Mom Anon

Your tags are messed up.

OH NO! I hope no one outside of our secret Soros paid operative circle saw it!

Thanks!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:36:50pm

Beware if Moderna or Pfizer get the emergency approval - their method is not only flawed, but the number of people they will use to certify is well under 60 people…

washingtonpost.com

And the author knows what he’s talking about as the former head of HIV studies at Harvard.

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:37:24pm

re: #12 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I have read that Barrett believes neither the 14th nor 15th amendments are legitimate.

Once again, the failure of the US to win the peace after the civil war rears its ugly head.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:38:10pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:43:48pm

re: #20 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A majority in the House, and a supermajority in the Senate, which is where we hit the roadblock.

By supermajority you mean 67 or more right?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:44:06pm

re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg

By supermajority you mean 67 or more right?

Yep - I originally wrote “filibuster-proof” but that’s only 61.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:47:05pm

I had no idea something like this existed, a genuine color photo of Mark Twain himself.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:47:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:53:20pm

Oops, I’m way behind. From the last thread:

re: #112 calochortus

I have to say, whatever is being done with my personal data, it is remarkably ineffective. I get a lot of ads that are completely irrelevant to my needs/interests. The only time I can remember clicking on an ad was a Kohl’s ad announcing a sale on jeans. Since Mr. C. was in need of some, I clicked through and bought a couple pairs. This was several (5+) years ago. The fact that I remember it should indicate how rare it is.

My favorite ads are the ones that I have absolutely no idea what they are trying to sell me. Generally that would be pictures of highly specialized tools or electronics and it makes me wonder why they thought I would want one of those things.

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Because of the nature of my Internet service, being a CenturyLink IP in Jefferson City, Missouri, the advertising that makes it past my paranoiaware is for things like businesses or politicians there. PSAs for various Missouri not-for-profits, &c.

I tossed a suggestion at the Nebraska Democratic Party that they should do their digital advertisements using CenturyLink’s Missouri IPs so they can get their YouTube adverts and such into our area.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:53:58pm

re: #30 Dread Pirate Ron

I can’t begin to understand why both of these idiots aren’t in prison.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:54:40pm

re: #36 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I can’t begin to understand why both of these idiots aren’t in prison.

Because they’re white, male, and Republican, and that’s three strikes when it comes to police arresting someone.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:57:34pm

The Lincoln Project are not our friends, they’re just the enemy’s enemy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 5:58:30pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

The Lincoln Project are not our friends, they’re just the enemy’s enemy.

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As we have all stated from the beginning. I will take their help in getting rid of President Trump, but they are only allies of convenience and are to be dropped the second we have accomplished our goal.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:17:05pm
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A Mom Anon  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:17:41pm

re: #39 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yes, and you can be certain that once Trump is gone they will have no use for us either.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:19:28pm

re: #41 A Mom Anon

Yes, and you can be certain that once Trump is gone they will have no use for us either.

Yeah, we have to see them pretty much as we saw Russia in WWII

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:20:48pm

2020 keeps doing its thing.

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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:21:13pm

Bassist to the stars Leland Sklar posts some words of tribute to RBG on his YouTube channel and gets attacked by Trumpers and other people poisoned by social media. He responds:

A response….

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:21:59pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

Repubs want to make her religion their shield?.

A devout Catholic is our nominee for President. They want to say we’re agin her because she’s a Catholic, we laugh at them.

“The devil, that proud spirit, cannot endure to be mocked.”

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:24:20pm

re: #38 The Pie Overlord!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:24:47pm
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b_sharp  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:29:08pm

The Right wants to destroy the Left or anything that they perceive as left. They want the ’50s back, religious dominance and they want financial control of the country.

Don’t expect them to be reasonable or cooperative.

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BigPapa  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:32:37pm

Whenever we have the votes we need to exert our power. They’re going to ram ACB down. We’ll see what happens on the backside. If Trump is out and we take the Senate, exert all legal remedies. Fuck them.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:33:46pm

re: #44 stpaulbear

“I’m listening to what people are actually saying, and sometimes that has to be addressed.”

It seems like social media has enabled right wingers to radicalize their opposition.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:34:53pm

re: #28 Eric The Fruit Bat

Beware if Moderna or Pfizer get the emergency approval - their method is not only flawed, but the number of people they will use to certify is well under 60 people…

washingtonpost.com

And the author knows what he’s talking about as the former head of HIV studies at Harvard.

I have no medical expertise but if a vaccine prevents a person from getting coronavirus, even if it’s a mild case, doesn’t that mean the person will not be able to spread the virus to others who may develop a more serious version. After all, many who have life-threatening symptoms acquired the disease from another who had a mild form. This would seem to interfere with that type of transmission, thereby reducing the number of serious cases.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:43:31pm

re: #46 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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I appreciate them trying to make an sane opposition party by trying to destroy the Frankenstein’s monster that they helped build in the 1st place.

It will be somewhat amusing watching them try and take back their own party. I wish them luck!

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:44:45pm
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Belafon  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:46:11pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:49:08pm

re: #54 Belafon

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There was a woman I fancied in high school who was a (nominal) Catholic, like anyone who grew up in that area. My father’s only advice about her: “You know you’re going to have to convert her, don’t you?” Enough said.

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BigPapa  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:49:26pm

So I joined Parler a few months ago to look around. Make a not to obvi handle, made a few comments. A lot of people Friended me ( or Parlayed) or whatever. Like, a lot really fast. So my password is bonked, I did a reset 3 times. Send an email to support:

Hello,
We are aware of issues where the password reset codes are not working, and are actively working hard to resolve this. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Parler Support

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:51:59pm

re: #48 b_sharp

The left is complicit with its own destruction.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:52:50pm

re: #54 Belafon

Those people being tortured for seeking asylum at the southern border? Catholics.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:53:28pm

re: #46 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Those tweets were a real shock and a terrible revelation about the Wilson of early 2016. Wilson is not a liberal but his book ETTD was a brilliant analysis of Trump, along with a few snide (though probably fairly accurate) remarks about Obama and Bill Clinton. To know that he might have been the one to inspire McConnell in his dishonest campaign to stop Garland is appalling; I have long admired him for his efforts against Trump — and now discover that one reason we have the current SC mess is his pre-Trump words or at least his endorsement of McConnell’s actions.

Well as everyone says: the enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy, and not my friend.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:53:38pm

re: #54 Belafon

Can vouch for.

Most evangelicals view Catholics on par with Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:54:04pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:54:34pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:55:52pm

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

Can vouch for.

Most evangelicals view Catholics on par with Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses.

What’s sad is that the inverse is not true; Catholics view Evangelicals as “fallen brothers”, Christians who have lost their way. They look on us more favorably than we do them. (I hope I am making clear in this that I hold no such views.)

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:55:54pm

re: #54 Belafon

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Did Satan Create Catholicism? Trump-Supporting Pastor Robert Jeffress Thinks So

newsweek.com

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:56:05pm

re: #22 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

Your private tag at the beginning of that is in misspelt: The comment is in the open.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:57:02pm

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

Take a look at that photo, and you see a surviving Democratic majority in PA..

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:58:00pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Your private tag at the beginning of that is in misspelt: The comment is in the open.

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Interesting Times  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:58:21pm

re: #57 Patricia Kayden

The left is complicit with its own destruction.

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If that happens, then all the protest wrath currently concentrated on racial injustice needs to be redirected to weak, enabling Dems (yes, not all of them are in a position to be primaried, but they should be pressured nonetheless. What went so horribly wrong in 2010 - among many other things - was that only teabaggers showed up and yelled at Democratic town halls).

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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2020 • 6:59:06pm

re: #57 Patricia Kayden

The left is complicit with its own destruction.

Please stop.

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BigPapa  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:01:24pm

re: #69 stpaulbear

Please stop.

Yeah, we’re getting a little ahead of ourselves. Myself, I can only argue 4.84 things at the same time. We have to get there.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:02:07pm

re: #70 BigPapa

Yeah, we’re getting a little ahead of ourselves. Myself, I can only argue 4.84 things at the same time. We have to get there.

You’re way ahead of me. I can only argue 3.29 things at a time.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:04:13pm

re: #71 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You’re way ahead of me. I can only argue 3.29 things at a time.

I can argue four things, but two of them are taken up by my teenage son.

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:04:14pm

The GOP is going to get that justice.

They will also use that to divert all attention away from Trump, COVID-19, the economy, etc.

Eye on the prize.

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stpaulbear  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:05:32pm

I can argue three things, but two of them are opposed to each other.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:07:51pm

re: #70 BigPapa

Yeah, we’re getting a little ahead of ourselves. Myself, I can only argue 4.84 things at the same time. We have to get there.

Yep. Let’s work and win and then argue about actions to take. Because I can guarantee you that if somehow (through vote rigging) the Republicans retain the WH and the Senate and regain the House, they will abolish the filibuster and we will be far worse off — and they will expand the SCOTUS to add more conservative judges, and they will point to the comments by Democrats to justify their actions.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:13:03pm

re: #75 Hecuba’s daughter

Just look at how they’re already using the actions by Democrats - pointing to Kavanaugh’s nomination and the wringer they put him through - to justify ramming ACB through the Senate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:15:46pm

re: #76 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Just look at how they’re already using the actions by Democrats - pointing to Kavanaugh’s nomination and the wringer they put him through - to justify ramming ACB through the Senate.

Yep, but if they controlled the senate and Biden was President they’d wall it up for four whole fucking years if they could get away with it.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:17:00pm

re: #69 stpaulbear

Please stop.

Democratic Senators should end the filibuster and expand SCOTUS if they flip the Senate and get the White House. I’m tired of Democrats adhering to rules which Republicans don’t care about.

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Interesting Times  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:17:57pm

re: #76 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Just look at how they’re already using the actions by Democrats - pointing to Kavanaugh’s nomination and the wringer they put him through - to justify ramming ACB through the Senate.

That doesn’t mean you unilaterally disarm or buy into their bad-faith framing, though. I do agree that the first task is winning (through GOTV and combatting GOPer voter suppression/election-stealing maneuvers), but it’s just plain dumb to dump cold water on an engaged/fired-up base by claiming in advance that you’re not going to put up a fight. If nothing else, just be vague, e.g. “all options will be on the table.”

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:18:21pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:18:31pm

J. Fucking. C.

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dangerman  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:19:40pm

even sideways its the same message

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BigPapa  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:20:38pm
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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:23:56pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

Democratic Senators should end the filibuster and expand SCOTUS if they flip the Senate and get the White House. I’m tired of Democrats adhering to rules which Republicans don’t care about.

I am curious as to what type of POTUS Biden would be? He knows his place in history and the things that he has no way of “getting”. How much latitude will he give Harris and other contemporary progressives? I hope Biden appoints a vindictive AG and swings for the fences. He knows the clock better than anyone and knows if he wants to make his mark he better do it in a hurry.

Biden has seen things take forever in DC and knows better than anyone on how to get things done quickly. Hope he and Schumer are friends and have common goals.

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Interesting Times  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:24:04pm

re: #83 BigPapa

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Silly me - there I was, thinking the Clorox-drinking cultists had nominal protection in an outdoor rally…and meanwhile, they’re packing themselves, maskless, into an enclosed metal box to get to and from said rally. What could possibly go wrong?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:25:11pm

Dr. Jill Biden was in Omaha today to speak to veterans about the election.

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BigPapa  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:30:23pm

re: #85 Interesting Times

Silly me - there I was, thinking the Clorox-drinking cultists had nominal protection in an outdoor rally…and meanwhile, they’re packing themselves, maskless, into an enclosed metal box to get to and from said rally. What could possibly go wrong?

INORIGHT? I was going to complement them for sorta half assing 3-4 feet of Social Distancing then remembered they’ll be inside buses shortly. Possibly, for hours. Just think of all the potential Trumpkins that won’t be able to vote because they’ll be in the damn hospital. Then I think of all of them that will still be in quarantine and not be able to vote.

It’s going to be a shit show.

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BigPapa  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:31:44pm

In the interest of fairness, here is a potential Biden voter:

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b.d. (Competence 2020!)  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:33:04pm

re: #85 Interesting Times

Silly me - there I was, thinking the Clorox-drinking cultists had nominal protection in an outdoor rally…and meanwhile, they’re packing themselves, maskless, into an enclosed metal box to get to and from said rally. What could possibly go wrong?

I used to stay away from the MAGA idiots for mental health reasons. It looks like staying away from them for physical health reasons is even more of a valid reason.

Typhoid MAGA.

Perfect excuse, screw those guys.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:34:12pm

re: #89 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

Mrs. Fish apparently overheard a couple of nurses when she was out with her 79-year-old mom at the local bistro. The nurses were complaining about the lack of mask wearing and how it’s going to kill them all. There’s hope yet, even among derp central.

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jaunte  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:36:45pm

re: #87 BigPapa

Trump killing his own supporters for a few seconds of ego gratification? It checks out.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:38:32pm

re: #91 jaunte

Trump killing his own supporters for a few seconds of ego gratification? It checks out.

I really hope Biden brings that up during the debate.

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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:41:17pm
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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:46:09pm

Speaking of national treasures—Lin-Manuel Miranda certainly qualifies.

Hamilton X When We All Vote

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:46:59pm

re: #95 BeachDem

I watched the Disney+ release of Hamilton - with Lin-Manuel Miranda playing the titular part - and I’m going to be honest, I cried. The man is definitely a goddamn national treasure.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:50:34pm
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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:55:27pm

re: #96 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I watched the Disney+ release of Hamilton - with Lin-Manuel Miranda playing the titular part - and I’m going to be honest, I cried. The man is definitely a goddamn national treasure.

I’ve watched it three times (and, as I’ve bored you all with before, saw it on Broadway with the original cast.) Makes me cry every time (It’s Quiet Uptown kills me)

Lin-Manuel Miranda is just an amazing talent/person/humanitarian.

If you haven’t seen this, it’s a little musical surprise at his wedding—puts a huge smile on my face every time.

To Life: Vanessa’s Wedding Surprise

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:56:35pm

re: #98 BeachDem

I was, at one point, looking forward to it coming around to Minnesota’s famed Theater District. Fuck COVID.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:58:37pm
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Ferdinand  Sep 26, 2020 • 7:58:52pm

Good post from Josh Marshall:

talkingpointsmemo.com

President Trump has now, unsurprisingly, chosen to nominate the far right Amy Coney Barrett to succeed Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court. The only sensible approach is for Senate Democrats neither to meet with Barrett nor participate in the confirmation process at all. Even to do so in a critical posture is to add legitimacy to a process that is illegitimate.

As bad as she may be as a judge or for the future of equal justice in the United States she can never be as bad as the corruption of the process itself. It is that corruption - the court-packing scheme Republicans pushed into overdrive starting in early 2016 - that justifies, indeed requires Democrats to add seats to the Court in 2021. Distracting from that reality with a gauzy-lensed look at Barrett’s personal story and judicial merits is madness. Pure madness.

Here too politics lines up neatly with principle. This will be a high profile spectacle that will dominate the final weeks of the election and be 100% under the control of the GOP and the White House. It is literally stage managed by the GOP and all the initiative is in their hands. One might as well agree to shut down one’s own campaign for the last month of the election.

Trump is the issue in the election. It is his defeat which will allow Democrats to undo the damage of this corrupt process in 2021. No matter how bad Barrett comes off in hearings - and remember, it’s a process 100% controlled by the President and Senate Republicans - she certainly will not come off worse than Donald Trump. Why allow that? Why participate? Why feed the lie of legitimacy?

Republicans have already told us that Barrett herself is irrelevant to this process. Almost every Senate Republican agree to vote to confirm her before they knew who Trump would nominate. They could not have made this more clear. She is irrelevant. Is she hard right? Of course. Just like the other possible choices.

You can’t insist a process is illegitimate while granting it legitimacy, while arguing within the questions the process raises. In this context, participation amounts to begging. Begging is weak. Democrats need to make clear that the only answer to Republican court-packing which will toss millions off health care, cripple voting rights, further limit reproductive rights and more important than anything be a decades-long veto over all progressive legislation is to elect Democrats and repair the damage in 2021.

Don’t participate. It’s madness.

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retired cynic  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:04:37pm

re: #101 Ferdinand

To do that seems to me that it would be telling the citizenry that Dems give up, and just let the Repubs run the country as they will.

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danarchy  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:08:52pm

re: #100 Patricia Kayden

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Didn’t both of Bush’s appointments come in the second term which he won the popular vote by a couple million.

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mmmirele  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:09:51pm

Thanks to whoever posted this in the last thread:

I’d forgotten she was running for Maricopa County Attorney. (And I voted for her in the primary!) So I threw a little scratch her way.

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EPR-radar  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:10:05pm

re: #102 retired cynic

To do that seems to me that it would be telling the citizenry that Dems give up, and just let the Repubs run the country as they will.

It’s a tough issue. In any Senate seat being defended by a Democrat, I’d prefer that Senator to be campaigning rather than stuck in GOP orchestrated confirmation hearings.

However, IMO it is essential for the Democrats to participate to ask tough questions the Republicans certainly won’t. E.g., “Do you promise to recuse yourself from any case or controversy that may arise from the 2020 presidential election?” That question must be asked.

The best idea I’ve seen (perhaps it was here, even) is for all of the judiciary committee Democrats to give their time to Kamala Harris.

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plansbandc  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:10:35pm

re: #96 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It lived up to all the hype. My mind was blown.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:11:45pm

re: #106 plansbandc

It lived up to all the hype. My mind was blown.

Okay. Glad someone agrees with me. One of my friends said they liked it better with the cast that they saw and I am literally like, “How.”

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:16:35pm

re: #107 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Okay. Glad someone agrees with me. One of my friends said they liked it better with the cast that they saw and I am literally like, “How.”

Live theatre has an immediacy and excitement that a filmed version does not, even if the performances aren’t as polished.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:17:17pm

re: #108 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Live theatre has an immediacy and excitement that a filmed version does not, even if the performances aren’t as polished.

That is a very fair point and a big part of the reason why I am disappointed to miss out. I reiterate, Fuck COVID.

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:22:07pm

re: #102 retired cynic

To do that seems to me that it would be telling the citizenry that Dems give up, and just let the Repubs run the country as they will.

In order to win the Danganrompa V3 video game, at the end you the player, has to realize that you have to stop playing. Put the controller down until the game figures out it can’t entice you to play any more.

Democrats have to figure out how to be governors but stop playing the Republican game.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:22:42pm

re: #109 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That is a very fair point and a big part of the reason why I am disappointed to miss out. I reiterate, Fuck COVID.

One of our local professional theatre groups was going to do a mainstage performance of Rocky Horror, I had subscriptions to at least twenty other plays (and four operas), and Harry Potter and the Cursed Child was in town. Fuck covid indeed.

Although all the people in the arts who are now out of work are more important than the shows I missed.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:23:39pm

re: #103 danarchy

You’re correct. In 2004, Bush won with 50.7%
en.m.wikipedia.org

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Belafon  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:23:39pm

re: #107 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Okay. Glad someone agrees with me. One of my friends said they liked it better with the cast that they saw and I am literally like, “How.”

Have you ever noticed that people will like the first version of a song they hear, even if it wasn’t the original performance.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:24:12pm

re: #113 Belafon

Have you ever noticed that people will like the first version of a song they hear, even if it wasn’t the original performance.

That’s a very accurate point. How many times have I heard the movie version of Phantom of the Opera.

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:27:43pm

re: #110 Belafon

In order to win the Danganrompa V3 video game, at the end you the player, has to realize that you have to stop playing. Put the controller down until the game figures out it can’t entice you to play any more.

Democrats have to figure out how to be governors but stop playing the Republican game.

Joshua: Greetings, Professor Falken.

Stephen Falken: Hello, Joshua.

Joshua: A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:29:54pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:33:57pm

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

Too many people jumping into “fuck this pandemic! I’m going to do what I want!” mentality.

My wife and I took a drive through one of the busy strips downtown earlier this evening and passed plenty of packed restaurants and bars. Very few masks seen.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:34:09pm

re: #54 Belafon

Ah yes, the Whore of Babylon, cult, fake religion.

Who Would Jesus Hate?

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NetworkKed  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:36:47pm

re: #114 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s a very accurate point. How many times have I heard the movie version of Phantom of the Opera.

There is no excuse for Phantom of the Opera. Any version.

(intense vomiting noises)

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BeachDem  Sep 26, 2020 • 8:49:42pm

re: #119 NetworkKed

There is no excuse for Phantom of the Opera. Any version.

(intense vomiting noises)

My least favorite ALW show, except for Cats, which is just a ridiculous waste of time and energy. And, not to be a theater snob (but to be a theater snob) anyone who could sit through the movie version of Les Miserables without puking or laughing out loud, well…they ragged on Russell Crow’s performance, but I thought they were all just terrible and miscast. The only semi-redeeming moments in that abomination were when Colm Wilkinson (the one and only Jean Valjean) was on as the Bishop.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 26, 2020 • 9:54:54pm

re: #113 Belafon

Have you ever noticed that people will like the first version of a song they hear, even if it wasn’t the original performance.

(3:36)

Bananarama - Venus (Official Video)

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sagehen  Sep 26, 2020 • 10:58:53pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

Repubs want to make her religion their shield? Show their hypocrisy by questioning her on the legality of allowing religious courts to rule on civil or criminal matters outside the boundaries of their faith. Then point out that making her religious beliefs the centerpiece of their support for her nomination indicates that they believe she will not be able to put those beliefs aside when ruling on matters of the law.

If a Jewish doctor (or Muslim, or Hindu, or Zoroastrian, or Scientologist, or Atheist) has “deeply held beliefs” about contraception and/or abortion, and those beliefs are in conflict with hospital policy or state law, can they follow their deeply held beliefs and expect to retain their job and license and admitting privileges?

Does the “conscience clause” protections or RFRA protect everybody, of all religions, or is that a special law just for Chistians?


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