Classic Snarky Puppy, Remixed and Remastered: “Skate U”

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From back in the day when they were all letting their hair grow.

Snarky Puppy - Skate U
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Recorded and filmed live (free of overdubs) at Dockside Studio Recordings in Maurice, LA on Saturday, November 21, 2009.

Written and arranged by Mike ‘Maz’ Maher.
Produced by Michael League.

Personnel:
Michael League: electric bass, keybass
Bill Laurance: piano, keyboards
Shaun Martin: Moog, Hammond B3 organ
Justin Stanton: Fender Rhodes, keyboards
Mark Lettieri: electric guitar
Bob Lanzetti: electric guitar
Chris McQueen: electric guitar
Nate Werth: percussion
Robert ‘Sput’ Searight: drums
Jay Jennings: trumpet, flugelhorn
Mike ‘Maz’ Maher: trumpet
Ian Rapien: tenor saxophone
Chris Bullock: tenor saxophone
Zach Brock: violin
Eylem Basaldi - viola
Shawna Hamilton - cello

Engineered by Eric Hartman.
Filmed, directed by Andy LaViolette.
Film produced by Andy LaViolette and Michael League.
New mix by Nic Hard in New York, NY.
New master by Dave McNair Mastering in Winston-Salem, NC.
Original mix by Eric Hartman, Korey Richey, Eric Heigel at Dockside Studio Recordings in Maurice, LA.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:55:14am

GOTV

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:05:32pm

What a time to be CL’ed…

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:07:46pm

If you’re not following Dr Sarah Taber on Twitter, you are *missing out*. She’s a crop scientist and former farmworker and some of her threads are amazing. This is about crop insurance fraud involving sweet potatoes from a few months back.

She returns to it in this thread from today:

She links to an article about tobacco crop insurance fraud in North Carolina in the ’00s, and by the end of the article, if your eyebrows are not grazing your hairline, you didn’t read it.
agweb.com

Also in today’s thread is a discussion about farm labor and migrant workers as well.

Seriously, as a friend of mine just said, “Taber is awesome, I’ve learned so much from her.” You will too.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:08:00pm

re: #2 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

What a time to be CL’ed…

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:09:11pm

re: #2 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:09:23pm

re: #2 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:10:33pm

re: #2 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

What a time to be CL’ed…

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:12:09pm

I got my Bingo Card out to play today!

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:13:55pm

A good article from Teri Kanefield’s blog explaining that democracy is hard work, and the reactionaries will always be pushing back against it. terikanefield-blog.com

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:21:58pm

re: #6 KGxvi

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:24:26pm

re: #7 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:28:37pm

re: #6 KGxvi

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:29:37pm

Good going, Q!

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:29:52pm

Question for the lizard collective. Biden/Harris win. Trump stop being president at noon on Jan 20, 2021. What happens to his cabinet? More specifically, does Barr stop being Attorney General at the same time? Frankly, I’m more afraid of Barr post election than Trump.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:29:54pm

It’s not even October and the Elf On The Shelf just ain’t in the mood for another Trump term!

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:31:14pm

re: #15 🌹UOJB!

It’s not even October and the Elf On The Shelf just ain’t in the mood for another Trump term!

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Man, poor Elf on The Shelf has taken a beating the past couple of days.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:31:15pm

re: #14 Teddy’s Person ✌

Question for the lizard collective. Biden/Harris win. Trump stop being president at noon on Jan 20, 2021. What happens to his cabinet? More specifically, does Barr stop being Attorney General at the same time? Frankly, I’m more afraid of Barr post election than Trump.

I am assuming that Biden would have to fire them and name replacements.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:31:16pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:32:14pm

re: #18 Sherlock Hound

Vancouver ads urging one-child families fuel eco-fascism

That is some over-the-top stuff…but I checked the site, they encourage “voluntarily” limiting families to one child.

worldpopulationbalance.org

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:33:24pm

re: #10 Teddy’s Person ✌

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:35:03pm

re: #14 Teddy’s Person ✌

Question for the lizard collective. Biden/Harris win. Trump stop being president at noon on Jan 20, 2021. What happens to his cabinet? More specifically, does Barr stop being Attorney General at the same time? Frankly, I’m more afraid of Barr post election than Trump.

Biden takes the oath and fires them. Career types serve as acting until Biden appointees are confirmed. Same as happened in 2017 and 2009, respectively.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:36:29pm

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am assuming that Biden would have to fire them and name replacements.

Other way around. They serve at the pleasure of the president, so the new president has to ask them to stay on or they’re done.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:38:46pm

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am assuming that Biden would have to fire them and name replacements.

re: #21 KGxvi

Biden takes the oath and fires them. Career types serve as acting until Biden appointees are confirmed. Same as happened in 2017 and 2009, respectively.

re: #22 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Other way around. They serve at the pleasure of the president, so the new president has to ask them to stay on or they’re done.

Does anyone know if any of this is part of the job description or those norms/traditions Republicans are so fond to tossing to the side when it suits them?

Edited for formatting errors.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:39:03pm

I’m 2017, president-elect trump designated some future nominees (fairly common practice in modern times) and they actually had confirmation hearings before Inauguration Day. That process probably violates the spirit of Marbury v Madison (the idea that there’s one president at a time), but none were confirmed until after the inauguration

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:39:53pm

re: #20 KGxvi

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:41:49pm

re: #23 Teddy’s Person ✌

Does anyone know if any of this is part of the job description or those norms/traditions Republicans are so fond to tossing to the side when it suits them?

Pretty sure there’s law… but if it’s a norm they try to break, all Biden has to do is say, “out.”

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:42:09pm
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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:43:29pm

re: #24 KGxvi

Follow up, looks like with Obama in 2009, most of his initial picks had hearings prior to inauguration and were confirmed pretty quickly after inauguration day

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:43:31pm

re: #27 (((Archangel1)))

I will make sure I have something else on my TV or iPad.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:44:09pm

Beware of covid-19 vaccine trials designed to succeed from the start: Washington Post

All the more reason to not take the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines if they get approved. And the author of this opinion piece knows what the fuck he’s talking about.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:44:18pm

re: #27 (((Archangel1)))

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:45:55pm

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am assuming that Biden would have to fire them and name replacements.

The newly elected President appoints a brand new Cabinet.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:45:55pm

re: #14 Teddy’s Person ✌

Question for the lizard collective. Biden/Harris win. Trump stop being president at noon on Jan 20, 2021. What happens to his cabinet? More specifically, does Barr stop being Attorney General at the same time? Frankly, I’m more afraid of Barr post election than Trump.

By custom, heads of Executive Departments (Cabinet) all submit their resignations to a (new) incoming Administration: but even if they don’t: said Cabinet members “serve at the pleasure of the President”, and can thus get canned at any time (though it’s rarely so blatant). And as KGxvi notes above, the relevant Deputy(/Assistant?) acts as Department Head until a replacement is confirmed.

So The Hon. Attorney General Mr. Piggy Barr doesn’t have much of a choice: though I’m not sure exactly how much power he is likely to have as a “lame duck” AG (I doubt whether he has much endeared himself to Justice careerists). But it’s probably that, being Mr. Piggy Bill Barr, he will try his best to do as much damage as possible on his way out.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:49:48pm

Is Trump having a press conference or another free campaign rally? You know he’s going to use it to bring up Ukraine BS and offer, like it’s goddamn pro wrestling event, to do a drug test.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:49:56pm

re: #14 Teddy’s Person ✌

Question for the lizard collective. Biden/Harris win. Trump stop being president at noon on Jan 20, 2021. What happens to his cabinet? More specifically, does Barr stop being Attorney General at the same time? Frankly, I’m more afraid of Barr post election than Trump.

Previously, Cabinet members would submit their resignations effective the same time the President’s term expires.

I don’t expect Trump’s assholes to adhere to that. Joe will have to fire them and they will run to Fox News and claim martyrdom…

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:52:08pm

re: #28 KGxvi

Follow up, looks like with Obama in 2009, most of his initial picks had hearings prior to inauguration and were confirmed pretty quickly after inauguration day

Imagine what a nightmare a Biden/Harris transition team will face trying to work with Trumpco. Yuck, having to treat Stephen Miller or Kayleigh McLiar as professionals. I can’t imagine anyone in the Trump administration being helpful and/or gracious.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:54:16pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:54:52pm

re: #36 Teddy’s Person ✌

Imagine what a nightmare a Biden/Harris transition team will face trying to work with Trumpco. Yuck, having to treat Stephen Miller or Kayleigh McLiar as professionals. I can’t imagine anyone in the Trump administration being helpful and/or gracious.

Drive a stake in both of them.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:55:09pm

re: #36 Teddy’s Person ✌

Imagine what a nightmare a Biden/Harris transition team will face trying to work with Trumpco. Yuck, having to treat Stephen Miller or Kayleigh McLiar as professionals. I can’t imagine anyone in the Trump administration being helpful and/or gracious.

Another reason Democrats have to take the Senate: imagine McConnell being in charge of approving Biden’s nominees.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:55:43pm

re: #36 Teddy’s Person ✌

Imagine what a nightmare a Biden/Harris transition team will face trying to work with Trumpco. Yuck, having to treat Stephen Miller or Kayleigh McLiar as professionals. I can’t imagine anyone in the Trump administration being helpful and/or gracious.

Another reason to be glad our candidate has already been vice-president. Although a lot of the real work is done by career people.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:56:32pm

re: #36 Teddy’s Person ✌

Imagine what a nightmare a Biden/Harris transition team will face trying to work with Trumpco. Yuck, having to treat Stephen Miller or Kayleigh McLiar as professionals. I can’t imagine anyone in the Trump administration being helpful and/or gracious.

What I can imagine is the entire Trump regime - uniformly and unanimously - refusing to cooperate in the absolute fucking least with the Biden/Harris transition team; locking them right out of the WH until noon on January 20, and leaving God-knows-what sort of mess for them to have to clean up.
Probably Chuck Johnson level….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:58:18pm

re: #36 Teddy’s Person ✌

Imagine what a nightmare a Biden/Harris transition team will face trying to work with Trumpco. Yuck, having to treat Stephen Miller or Kayleigh McLiar as professionals. I can’t imagine anyone in the Trump administration being helpful and/or gracious.

all while insisting with increasing vigor that Biden/Harris are scammers and usurpers with no legal claim to the White House.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 12:59:02pm

re: #40 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Another reason to be glad our candidate has already been vice-president. Although a lot of the real work is done by career people.

The closer we get to the election and the more shit Trumpco pulls, I’m so glad Joe’s are nominee for precisely that reason. He wasn’t my first (or even second) choice, but the thought of all his institutional knowledge calms my frayed nerves.

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HypnoToad  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:00:30pm

A worry. Could Trump or Dejoy order a complete shutdown of postal service operations just before the election to ‘delay’ ballots so they can be discounted for being late. I imagine something like a 48 hour ‘temporary’ shutdown’ on Nov 1st, ‘to inspect for, collect, and preserve evidence of mail fraud’. It might even be conveniently done in crucial swing states, or even certain cities. Could a last minute directive like that be prevented or reversed?

Maybe this is just my late night, awake in bed, conspiracy theory, but it seemed then like something they might try.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:00:56pm

I saw this yard sign around the intertubes. It made me smile and smile wider because Joe would approve.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:01:17pm

re: #43 Teddy’s Person ✌

The closer we get to the election and the more shit Trumpco pulls, I’m so glad Joe’s are nominee for precisely that reason. He wasn’t my first (or even second) choice, but the thought of all his institutional knowledge calms my frayed nerves.

“First things first. I need to know who was installed in your departments by my predecessor to fuck with my administration.”

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:01:43pm
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Ming5000  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:01:50pm

re: #36 Teddy’s Person ✌

Imagine what a nightmare a Biden/Harris transition team will face trying to work with Trumpco. Yuck, having to treat Stephen Miller or Kayleigh McLiar as professionals. I can’t imagine anyone in the Trump administration being helpful and/or gracious.

Biden’s team needs to study up on how the French reoccupied Paris when the Nazis were expelled.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:02:29pm

re: #48 Ming5000

Biden’s team needs to study up on how the French reoccupied Paris when the Nazis were expelled.

It was all very Vichy-washy

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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:02:37pm

Welp—it’s a day ending in y after all.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:03:15pm

re: #50 BeachDem

Welp—it’s a day ending in y after all.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:03:26pm

re: #50 BeachDem

Welp—it’s a day ending in y after all.

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Yeah. Dale probably has a bot for that tweet.

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Ferdinand  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:04:22pm

re: #41 Jay C

What I can imagine is the entire Trump regime - uniformly and unanimously - refusing to cooperate in the absolute fucking least with the Biden/Harris transition team; locking them right out of the WH until noon on January 20, and leaving God-knows-what sort of mess for them to have to clean up.
Probably Chuck Johnson level….

Josh Marshall I believe posted something this week about how the Trump admin so far is following the law and the required transition meetings are happening, or at least a couple of Trump trolls are going through the initial motions.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:04:45pm

re: #45 Teddy’s Person ✌

My sister had me laughing about one of her Facebook friends who claimed that Black people shouldn’t vote for Harris because some of her ancestors were slave owners in Jamaica. So ridiculous.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:04:53pm

re: #47 Patricia Kayden

It drops to 7% when third party candidates are included.

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gwangung  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:05:52pm

re: #54 Patricia Kayden

My sister had me laughing about one of her Facebook friends who claimed that Black people shouldn’t vote for Harris because some of her ancestors were slave owners in Jamaica. So ridiculous.

Wayyyyyy too many white people don’t know the history of black people in America.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:06:52pm

re: #55 retired cynic

It drops to 7% when third party candidates are included.

That is what scares me. And I will not be surprised if Roger Stone is colluding with the Russians right now to pump up Green candidate Howie Hawkins.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:07:07pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:07:37pm

re: #35 🌹UOJB!

Previously, Cabinet members would submit their resignations effective the same time the President’s term expires.

I don’t expect Trump’s assholes to adhere to that. Joe will have to fire them and they will run to Fox News and claim martyrdom…

I hope they escort Barr out without allowing him to take anything and then bring the FBI in to seize everything in his office.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:08:47pm

re: #38 🌹UOJB!

Drive a stake in both of them.

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One of my favorite lines from Archer…

Pam: hey, I’m not a vampire
Mallory: doesn’t matter to the stake

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:08:51pm

I’m a former prosecutor. The charge in Breonna Taylor’s death is pathetically weak. Paul Butler, WaPo

Goes through the law. Nothing we don’t intuitively know, but nails it down.

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Ferdinand  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:09:04pm

“Politico reported on Thursday that Trump aide Chris Liddell has been quietly working on a blueprint with a career official over the past several months and filed two transition reports by their deadlines in May and August. White House attorney Pat Cipollone is also reportedly assisting Liddell.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:09:47pm

re: #59 stpaulbear

I hope they escort Barr out without allowing him to take anything and then bring the FBI in to seize everything in his office.

The thought of Trump issuing pardons at 1159AM 1/20/21 and Joe tearing them up saying they are null and void when Letitia James slaps the cuffs on Trump…

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piratedan  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:10:01pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

and to think, this is the type of quality questioning we were missing out on because Sam Stein doesn’t have continual access…… and has to tweet out his frustrations on Twitter…

It would be different if there was any inherent quality of questions coming from the MSM, but I see more stringent questions asked and answered here than what drops out of a MSM reporters piehole.

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NetworkKed  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:10:23pm

re: #47 Patricia Kayden

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I… don’t really believe any poll this far out from an election that has only 2% undecided. I mean, sure I like seeing biden +10 and way above 50, but they’ve got to be ignoring 3rd party and leaning super hard to force a choice to get that kind of number.

After the weird state polls from ABC last week, this starts to feel a little weird. ABC news has a rep for quality but there’s been a lot of really icky anti-Dem (and especially anti-Clinton) hit pieces from them over the years.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:11:27pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

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I LOVE JILL BIDEN!

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:11:50pm

re: #41 Jay C

What I can imagine is the entire Trump regime - uniformly and unanimously - refusing to cooperate in the absolute fucking least with the Biden/Harris transition team; locking them right out of the WH until noon on January 20, and leaving God-knows-what sort of mess for them to have to clean up.
Probably Chuck Johnson level….

I saw this tweet this morning and haven’t stopped thinking about it:

Very high probability of big “well fuck you” energy from Trump after the election is called for Biden

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:13:31pm

re: #67 KGxvi

Yes. That sounds like the most likely result.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:14:34pm

re: #68 PhillyPretzel

Yes. That sounds like the most likely result.

Pence will fill in, he at least understands that there is also a party’s reputation at stake. Trump is only in it for himself.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:14:36pm

re: #9 NO SMOCKING GUN!

A good article from Teri Kanefield’s blog explaining that democracy is hard work, and the reactionaries will always be pushing back against it. terikanefield-blog.com

Also, her latest article, “We Are In Danger Of Becoming The Puppets”.

This quote is something I DESPISE:

The “we have to prepare” argument goes like this: “We must uncover all of these far-fetched unlikely scenarios so that we can guard against them.”

I HATE THIS.

PREPARE FOR WHAT?

Or, more precisely,
PREPARE FOR HOW?

What are we supposed to do that we aren’t already doing? I can’t “vote harder”!

(Note on voting in Salem, Massachusetts: We have vote-by-mail, but we have dropboxes, and City Hall, and our usual polling stations. I have applied for my ballot and will early-vote.
I never needed to say this: We have odd-year municipal elections, which means that elections are routine. Yes, Brodude, local elections are important.)

If you’re going to scare people (and the “you” refers to pundits, not anyone here), and they can’t do any more than they are already, then it will be VERY ugly.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:14:46pm

re: #67 KGxvi

I saw this tweet this morning and haven’t stopped thinking about it:

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Very high probability of big “well fuck you” energy from Trump after the election is called for Biden

Part of me feels he might call a press conference and do the R. Budd Dwyer thing…

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:15:02pm

The WaPo Editorial Board did a series of eight parts, titled Our Democracy in Peril: A series of editorials on the damage President Trump has caused — and the danger he would pose in a second term.

I don’t think you have to wonder where they stand!

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:15:22pm

re: #65 NetworkKed

I… don’t really believe any poll this far out from an election that has only 2% undecided. I mean, sure I like seeing biden +10 and way above 50, but they’ve got to be ignoring 3rd party and leaning super hard to force a choice to get that kind of number.

After the weird state polls from ABC last week, this starts to feel a little weird. ABC news has a rep for quality but there’s been a lot of really icky anti-Dem (and especially anti-Clinton) hit pieces from them over the years.

Why do you think there can’t be 2% undecided when both candidates are known quantities and one of them is running on the platform “You haven’t seen yet how many people I can kill”?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:15:47pm

re: #71 🌹UOJB!

We should be that lucky that DT would do something that “honorable.”

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:17:05pm

re: #67 KGxvi

I saw this tweet this morning and haven’t stopped thinking about it:

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Very high probability of big “well fuck you” energy from Trump after the election is called for Biden

I disagree with Teigen on this one (I’m sure she’s crushed). There’s too much money to be looted from the Treasury for Trump to cut and run. He’ll spend the lame duck session funneling as much of our nation’s treasure to friends and family through no-bid contracts as he can.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:17:16pm

Ballots have been filled out and will be returned in the mail by tomorrow’s post. I’m doing my part, friends, now make sure everybody else does theirs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:22:06pm

re: #70 Sherlock Hound

The “we have to prepare” argument goes like this: “We must uncover all of these far-fetched unlikely scenarios so that we can guard against them.”

We need to be prepared for Trump to pull some outrageous and unprecedented stunts. We have never had to deal with an incumbent President who is aware that he is going to face multiple indictments and charges as soon as he loses Presidential immunity. That makes him truly desperate and ready to stop at nothing in order not to lose.

We have never had to deal with a President who has a criminal organization backing him up along with foreign nations also acting in his interest with his active collusion.

And we have never really seen a media climate so enthralled with an entertainer and scandalmonger who is a disaster as a leader but a total sensation as a media sensation and reality TV star.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:22:18pm

re: #76 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This upcoming weekend I will be taking my election lessons. Good news is that I have a reservation and I only have to walk one mile to get to them.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:22:39pm

re: #76 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ballots have been filled out and will be returned in the mail by tomorrow’s post. I’m doing my part, friends, now make sure everybody else does theirs.

I’m getting anxious to vote. My ballot will be mailed out no later than Oct. 16 and the voter information pamphlet will most likely show up next week (10/4-10/10). I’ve not read anything indicating that WA will mail out ballots earlier than normal.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:24:35pm

re: #79 Teddy’s Person ✌

I’m getting anxious to vote. My ballot will be mailed out no later than Oct. 16 and the voter information pamphlet will most likely show up next week (10/4-10/10). I’ve not read anything indicating that WA will mail out ballots earlier than normal.

Yikes. The MN Secretary of State’s office actually informed me when my ballot was mailed.

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NetworkKed  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:26:56pm

The thing is that no matter what Trump’s play is after the election, he’s going to do it very, very badly. This is one of the reasons I’m not super worried. At every step along the way his administration has been unable to do anything competently.

Hell, even if he just quits, I’m pretty sure he’s going to do it wrong.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:29:37pm

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I ask again, prepare HOW?

I’ll take the answer as: “Be terrified. Be angry. Be scared. 35 days to go. Doesn’t it feel GOOD!”
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Like many Americans, I cannot emigrate to anywhere. That’s a blind spot Europeans have; we don’t have free movement, even pre-COVID.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:29:51pm

re: #65 NetworkKed

I… don’t really believe any poll this far out from an election that has only 2% undecided. I mean, sure I like seeing biden +10 and way above 50, but they’ve got to be ignoring 3rd party and leaning super hard to force a choice to get that kind of number..

Except… this isn’t like any other year. It’s not “this far out from an election.” The election is now, for at least some of us. And it’s between two completely known quantities.

Anybody who’s still undecided on September 27 is probably so low-information that they shouldn’t be trusted with a ballot.

(And I’ll go out on a pretty short, sturdy limb here and say that we’re poised for one of the lowest third-party votes in years.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:30:14pm

re: #81 NetworkKed

The thing is that no matter what Trump’s play is after the election, he’s going to do it very, very badly. This is one of the reasons I’m not super worried. At every step along the way his administration has been unable to do anything competently.

There is a good chance that he will manage to piss off even the GOP because he will be acting in his own personal interests, damn the GOP and all the other candidates it has fielded, and that could well be his ultimate undoing.

Up to now, the GOP has coddled and protected him against any sort of responsibility or consequences.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:32:39pm

re: #83 i(m)p(each)sos

Except… this isn’t like any other year. It’s not “this far out from an election.” The election is now, for at least some of us. And it’s between two completely known quantities.

Anybody who’s still undecided on September 27 is probably so low-information that they shouldn’t be trusted with a ballot.

(And I’ll go out on a pretty short, sturdy limb here and say that we’re poised for one of the lowest third-party votes in years.)

I think even the most die-hard purity pony voters have figured out that they are either against Trump or not.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:34:03pm

Today I’ve just been gaming out the possible scenarios if the Court kills the ACA after the election and almost every one of them are very bad for the GOP. I fear that people are going to unleash their anger on Republicans and some of that anger is going to get very violent…

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NetworkKed  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:34:07pm

re: #73 Belafon

Why do you think there can’t be 2% undecided when both candidates are known quantities and one of them is running on the platform “You haven’t seen yet how many people I can kill”?

It’s not impossible. But there’s a special strain of American Stupid, the ones who every election think that both parties are bad, who pride themselves on not choosing who to vote for until election day, who “want to vote for the winner”, and who believe the horserace narratives the media promotes continuously.

That and most polls who have numbers which look like this are not really in the business of producing accurate, unbiased results (*cough* Rasmussen *cough*).

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NetworkKed  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:36:21pm

re: #83 i(m)p(each)sos

(And I’ll go out on a pretty short, sturdy limb here and say that we’re poised for one of the lowest third-party votes in years.)

Or one of the highest - if Republicans get super disaffected, there’s a bunch who will push the Libertarian button before voting for the hated Dem, even if it means the Dem gets elected.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:37:14pm

re: #88 NetworkKed

Or one of the highest - if Republicans get super disaffected, there’s a bunch who will push the Libertarian button before voting for the hated Dem, even if it means the Dem gets elected.

Mrs. Fish was wondering how many Christians would vote for Kanye West, as his dumb ass appeared on our ballot.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:39:03pm

re: #89 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mrs. Fish was wondering how many Christians would vote for Kanye West, as his dumb ass appeared on our ballot.

That asshole is on the California ballot as the Vice-Presidential Candidate of the American Independent (George Wallace Racist) Party.

4 years ago Trump and Pence were on both the Republican and American Independent ballot lines which is very rare in California to be on more than one party’s slate for office.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:41:49pm

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So much THIS.

If Trump’s value to the GOP establishment is transactional, he’s nearly out of valuable currency to offer in his first term.

Now that he’s given them the Barrett nomination, assuming he’s not re-elected, what else can he do for the party? He’ll have a few weeks to get some lame-duck judicial nominees crammed into lower courts (but Mark Kelly replacing McSally will stop that train after the end of November). They’ll try to do some lame-duck regulatory ratfucking, but the slow nature of those processes means it won’t really accomplish much (and can be reversed in the new year.)

The gravy train of ambassadorships is over. No more cushy White House jobs for his Fox News friends.

Coattails for down-ticket candidates? If he can’t pull Lindsey Graham over the line, he’s going to have the stench of loser all over him and only the crazies are going to want him out on the stage with them going forward.

What’s left? Pardons, and we’ll see those, certainly. But his power to issue those will end, too, and after that, what use is he to anyone? He’s done.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:42:41pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:42:43pm

re: #90 🌹UOJB!

It also made me crack up, she said, “Isn’t that illegal?” I had to explain that no, anyone can run, and that while he appears on our ballots, he doesn’t appear on the ballot in several states.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:42:44pm

My son and I are sitting down tonight and filling out our ballots. Cleo and I will ride up to the library and drop the ballots off there. The race for Loeffler’s seat is insane. 20 fucking candidates. 7 Dems. 4 Independent. 1 libertarian. 1 green. The rest Republicans. Out of all those, only Collins, Loeffler and Raphael Warnock have run any ads at all. This sucks because unless one candidate gets 50 percent of the votes, then there’s another run off (I think, this whole thing is giving me a migraine).

Warnock is the best choice of the bunch and I am super annoyed the other Dems refuse to bow out gracefully especially that ass Matt Lieberman. Joe Effing Lieberman’s Effing son. This is such crap. I’m going to be following some of the names on this ballot and see just exactly what they do after the election because I smell ratfuckery. Loeffler has got to go, she’s an awful human being.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:44:40pm

re: #92 Ace-o-aces

DT sounds scared and I would not be surprised if he (DT) makes a so-called gaffe and blames it on Joe.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:46:36pm

re: #80 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yikes. The MN Secretary of State’s office actually informed me when my ballot was mailed.

We’re a vote by mail state so it’s not WA’s first rodeo.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:48:11pm

re: #92 Ace-o-aces

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:48:21pm

re: #91 i(m)p(each)sos

So much THIS.

What’s left? Pardons, and we’ll see those, certainly. But his power to issue those will end, too, and after that, what use is he to anyone? He’s done.

Then there will be the chaos as the crooks run for the lifeboats. This is not a “normal” administration: this is a criminal conspiracy from top to bottom, and January 21 there’s (hopefully) going to be a new sheriff in town with absolutely no reason to let anyone off the hook. Maybe Trump will pardon other people if they pay him off, because otherwise there’s no reason he’d give a shit about them.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:49:59pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:51:40pm

re: #98 ericblair

Then there will be the chaos as the crooks run for the lifeboats. This is not a “normal” administration: this is a criminal conspiracy from top to bottom, and January 21 there’s (hopefully) going to be a new sheriff in town with absolutely no reason to let anyone off the hook. Maybe Trump will pardon other people if they pay him off, because otherwise there’s no reason he’d give a shit about them.

The downfall will be more chaotic than we can even begin to imagine, because when you have an entire administration that’s filled from bottom to top with petty criminals out for their own gain and no concept of public service, it’s going to be a race for the lifeboats when the whole thing starts going down. Mnuchin is out only for Mnuchin, Chao only for Chao, Barr only for Barr, and each of the Trumps only for themselves.

On the one hand, it will be ugly and raw and vicious - but on the other hand, I expect a LOT of the crap that we’ve only speculated on behind the scenes will get blown into the open, and nobody with an R after their name is going to walk away from this cleanly.

And I’m OK with that. :)

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nines09  Sep 27, 2020 • 1:52:01pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:02:19pm

The Rock says Trump is a jabroni.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:11:40pm

The Challenger documentary on Netflix is solid.

It will piss you off (NASA went ahead with the launch despite having plenty of evidence it was very risky and Reagan tried to ratfuck the investigation into the accident) but it’s very well done.

Highly recommended if you have any interest in astronomy.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:13:54pm

CNBC Evening Spot. He’ll move over fast.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:24:30pm
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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:27:25pm

A new Borat movie right in time for the election!

We’ve learned from sources that Trump and Epstein’s relationship, as well as the coronavirus, all figure into the main narrative with cameos from Mike Pence, Rudy Giuliani, and more best left unspoiled. We’ve also learned that one of the yet-to-be-revealed cameos could potentially derail a political career, and we imagine some backlash and lawsuits will follow.

thefilmstage.com

The title of the sequel is officially Borat: Gift of Pornographic Monkey to Vice Premiere Mikhael Pence to Make Benefit Recently Diminished Nation of Kazakhstan

LOL, please proceed.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:27:35pm

re: #104 Dave In Austin

CNBC Evening Spot. He’ll move over fast.

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He would do a great service if all he did was talk about the relationship between Fox and the GOP.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:28:10pm

This seems like big news:

Link to story here

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nines09  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:33:12pm
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CarolJ  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:36:40pm

re: #14 Teddy’s Person ✌

The answer is yes. The terms end with their president. The only exceptions is if the current Presidents ask them to stay. (Not likely with this bunch). “Serve at the pleasure of the President”, you know.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:37:05pm

re: #105 Ace-o-aces

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:38:19pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

This seems like big news:

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Link to story here

Holy SHIT.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:41:14pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:42:21pm

After skimming (I don’t have the brain power today to read carefully) that NYT article about Trump’s taxes, one very simple way for Trump to loot the treasury is to spend every day as a lame duck at one of his properties where prices charged the federal government will “mysteriously” (snark quotes) increase tenfold.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:43:54pm

re: #114 Teddy’s Person ✌

After skimming (I don’t have the brain power today to read carefully) that NYT article about Trump’s taxes, one very simple way for Trump to loot the treasury is to spend every day as a lame duck at one of his properties where prices charged the federal government will “mysteriously” (snark quotes) increase tenfold.

Anyone wanting an audience with Trump will have to spring for at least a two-night stay or purchase a club membership.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:46:18pm

He’s going to say it means he’s a super-smart stable genius. That’s how he’s played it before, and his cult loves it.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:47:46pm

re: #114 Teddy’s Person ✌

After skimming (I don’t have the brain power today to read carefully) that NYT article about Trump’s taxes, one very simple way for Trump to loot the treasury is to spend every day as a lame duck at one of his properties where prices charged the federal government will “mysteriously” (snark quotes) increase tenfold.

lol, this is great

They showed that, in many years, Mr. Trump lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:48:16pm

I got to ask this!

Hey who else in the LGF Gang only paid $750 in 2016 Federal Income taxes?

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:49:00pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:49:23pm

BUT WAIT!!

THERE’S MORE!!

thedailybeast.com

According to two decades of tax returns obtained by The New York Times, Trump paid next to nothing the year he was elected—and nothing at all for 10 of the 15 years before that.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:50:25pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:52:28pm

re: #121 jaunte

You want to see DT? Buy a club membership. I hope that the NYT continues to push for answers on this item. I doubt they will.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:54:43pm

re: #122 PhillyPretzel

You want to see DT? Buy a club membership. I hope that the NYT continues to push for answers on this item. I doubt they will.

The “paper of record” that conspired with BreitFART in 2016 to push the libelous Clinton Cash book failed to do it’s job in 2016.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:55:08pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:56:07pm

re: #118 🌹UOJB!

I got to ask this!

Hey who else in the LGF Gang only paid $750 in 2016 Federal Income taxes?

I don’t think I’ve paid $750 in federal income taxes ever.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 2:58:32pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:00:03pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:01:18pm

re: #118 🌹UOJB!

I got to ask this!

Hey who else in the LGF Gang only paid $750 in 2016 Federal Income taxes?

Not me. I’m not wealthy enough to have the kind of deductions that bring your tax liability down.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:01:40pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:03:01pm
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CarolJ  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:03:01pm

re: #65 NetworkKed

800,000 have already voted, meaning they have made up their minds. The previous cycle only 9k had voted at the same time point.

Kayleigh and Stephen Miller are employees of the Administration only. They are neither confirmed by the Senate, nor career civil servants. Their tenure automatically ends with the Administration that hired them.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:03:21pm

Fake news!! Under Audit!!

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:04:06pm

Fraud.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:06:19pm

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:06:38pm

re: #132 Teddy’s Person ✌

Fake news!! Under Audit!!

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He’s been using the audit excuse for years now. Oh and hi. Move went pretty well. Still need to get more stuff but it’s good to have part of it done.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:07:32pm

re: #134 🌹UOJB!

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Do you make all these meme yourself? You post some good ones.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:07:47pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:09:24pm

re: #137 jaunte

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It’s all giant grift.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:10:09pm

re: #135 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s been using the audit excuse for years now. Oh and hi. Move went pretty well. Still need to get more stuff but it’s good to have part of it done.

It’s always a good feeling when you reach the part of the move where it’s not quite done but it’s no longer stressful.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:11:09pm

@julieroginsky
From Trump’s own tax returns:
1. He is essentially broke.
2. If he is not really broke, he has repeatedly lied to the IRS - a felony.
4. He repeatedly violates the emoluments clause and monetizes presidency.
3. He financially can’t afford to lose the WH.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:12:09pm

I paid 26 times the amount of Federal Income Tax in 2016 than Trump did…

Nancy has no choice now but to impeach Trump again over his fraudulent tax returns!

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:12:56pm

Doug Jones not giving up the fight.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:14:05pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:16:14pm

re: #142 Teddy’s Person ✌

Doug Jones not giving up the fight.

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I really like Doug Jones. He’s by far the most progressive minded person that Alabama has elected statewide and he does a great job at it. He’s also a great person too.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:16:51pm
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:17:14pm

re: #126 jaunte

In the replies, I found this person. twitter.com. I thought her banner was great:

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:17:49pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

What a sad, low-energy person!

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:18:20pm

re: #144 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I really like Doug Jones. He’s by far the most progressive minded person that Alabama has elected statewide and he does a great job at it. He’s also a great person too.

Plus he got justice for four little girls!!

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:21:47pm

re: #144 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I really like Doug Jones. He’s by far the most progressive minded person that Alabama has elected statewide and he does a great job at it. He’s also a great person too.

I will not give up on Doug Jones. Sending him help every 2 weeks…

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:23:21pm

re: #33 Jay C

As Barr exits the DOJ building he will leave behind a mountain of shredded confetti, smashed hard drives, tampered evidence, and a thick fog of smoke from burned documents. It will be the most blatant in your face attempt on a coverup in US history. Barr too will flee the country.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:23:59pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:24:12pm

re: #128 Teddy’s Person ✌

Not me. I’m not wealthy enough to have the kind of deductions that bring your tax liability down.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:25:00pm

re: #132 Teddy’s Person ✌

Fake news!! Under Audit!!

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Both of those sets of statements sound desperate.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:25:15pm

Lindsey begging for money again on FOX.

During an interview on the Sunday Morning Futures program, Graham blamed his financial woes on the nomination of Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court.

“Democrats try to destroy Judge Barrett at their own peril,” Graham said. “Their base is going nuts. They’ve raised $300 million, ActBlue has, since the passing of Justice Ginsburg.”

“I’m being out-raised 2-to-1,” he continued. “Every Republican running in the Senate is being hit hard with all this money coming in from ActBlue. So if you want to help me, LindseyGraham(dot)com. Five or ten bucks goes a long way.”

Graham returned to the subject several moments later.

“I know the amount of money coming in since the death of Justice Ginsburg tells me there’s a lot of energy out there to take out Judge Barrett,” he said. “Help me and others — LindseyGraham(dot)com — I hate to keep saying that but just the money is overwhelming.” C&L

Won’t Lindsey lose his incentive to work if you give him money. Boot straps Lindsey, boot straps.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:26:21pm

Mrs. Fish and I turning on older (2017-2018 vintage) SNL episodes as we read the Trump Tax Returns nuclear bomb drop.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:26:41pm
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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:27:14pm

To me, the nut grafs from the NYT’s Trump-finances piece are this:

Together with related financial documents and legal filings, the records offer the most detailed look yet inside the president’s business empire. They reveal the hollowness, but also the wizardry, behind the self-made-billionaire image — honed through his star turn on “The Apprentice” — that helped propel him to the White House and that still undergirds the loyalty of many in his base.

Ultimately, Mr. Trump has been more successful playing a business mogul than being one in real life.

“The Apprentice,” along with the licensing and endorsement deals that flowed from his expanding celebrity, brought Mr. Trump a total of $427.4 million, The Times’s analysis of the records found. He invested much of that in a collection of businesses, mostly golf courses, that in the years since have steadily devoured cash — much as the money he secretly received from his father financed a spree of quixotic overspending that led to his collapse in the early 1990s.

And none of this is really “news” - Trump’s shaky finances, ludicrous tax-juggling and vaporware “empire” have been out in the press for decades: and yet 46.1% of the voters still thought this dishonest charlatan was fit to occupy the White House…..

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:27:24pm
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Acemarilllion  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:28:19pm

re: #132 Teddy’s Person ✌

Fake news!! Under Audit!!

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I imagine he had no idea The Money-gone Papers would be released during his “press conference”.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:28:32pm

“Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don’t they help themselves,
But when the taxman come’ to the door
Lord, the house lookin’ like a rummage sale”

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:29:29pm

An Israeli doctor says: “in Israel, medicine is so advanced that we can cut off a man’s testicles, put them on another man and in six weeks, he’s looking for work.”

The German doctor says: “that’s nothing. In Germany we take part of a brain, put it in another man and in four weeks he’s looking for work.”

The Russian doctor says: “gentlemen, we take half a heart from a man, put it in another man’s chest and in two weeks he’s looking for work.”

The United States doctor laughs: “You are all behind us. Three years ago we took a man with no brains, no balls and no heart and made him President. Now the whole Country is looking for work.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:35:51pm
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:37:38pm

re: #158 jaunte

I like this suggestion:

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:38:02pm

re: #135 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s been using the audit excuse for years now. Oh and hi. Move went pretty well. Still need to get more stuff but it’s good to have part of it done.

Happy Warrior is in the house!

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:39:22pm

re: #142 Teddy’s Person ✌

Doug Jones not giving up the fight.

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Yay. Two days after I sent him 25 social security bucks. I’m glad to help.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:39:57pm

I’m logging out now to attend the socially-distanced, outdoor “Kol Nidre” service.

Happy New Year to all Lizards, may 5781 be happier than 5780.

Love you all!

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:40:29pm

re: #135 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Welcome back! Good to see you again! Glad that the move went well.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:40:55pm

re: #166 The Pie Overlord!

May you and your family be written into the Book of Life.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:42:19pm

re: #166 The Pie Overlord!

I’m logging out now to attend the socially-distanced, outdoor “Kol Nidre” service.

Happy New Year to all Lizards, may 5781 be happier than 5780.

Love you all!

Right back at you. Blessed New Year to You & Yours and everyone with Lots of Love!

Will be ZOOMing services in my apartment in a little bit, too!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:42:39pm

I finished the whole article. Wow. What we are seeing is a man who, whether by himself or with the help of corrupt “friends”, has both legally and illegally manipulated his tax returns to avoid paying any effective money to the U.S. government. It is a shocking display of privilege, power, and complete disregard for the rule of law.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:43:10pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:45:24pm

re: #170 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I finished the whole article. Wow. What we are seeing is a man who, whether by himself or with the help of corrupt “friends”, has both legally and illegally manipulated his tax returns to avoid paying any effective money to the U.S. government. It is a shocking display of privilege, power, and complete disregard for the rule of law.

But, but he’s a true patriot who loves America more than those socialist hippies on the left. ////////////

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:46:01pm

re: #171 Belafon

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Make Other Countries Great Again!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:46:06pm

If Trump’s taxes are an example of tax avoidance (which is legal) rather than tax evasion (which is not), then there is something terribly wrong with our tax system. It needs to be overhauled to prevent people with wealth escaping their contribution to our society.

Elizabeth Warren — Katie Porter, please do your thing and take this man down now.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:46:19pm

“And go write a check with our money, you cracker!”

Standing ovation in the Fish household.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:47:06pm

re: #174 Hecuba’s daughter

If Trump’s taxes are an example of tax avoidance (which is legal) rather than tax evasion (which is not), then there is something terribly wrong with our tax system. It needs to be overhauled to prevent people with wealth escaping their contribution to our society.

Elizabeth Warren — Katie Porter, please do your thing and take this man down now.

I donated to katie Porter. Love her. Hope she wins reelection.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:47:48pm

re: #176 I Would Prefer Not To

I donated to katie Porter. Love her. Hope she wins reelection.

THANKS! KATIE NEEDS HELP!

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:49:59pm

re: #174 Hecuba’s daughter

If Trump’s taxes are an example of tax avoidance (which is legal) rather than tax evasion (which is not), then there is something terribly wrong with our tax system. It needs to be overhauled to prevent people with wealth escaping their contribution to our society.

Elizabeth Warren — Katie Porter, please do your thing and take this man down now.

I think the part where he paid Ivanka as a consultant to the company she’s a part of points out that this is not mere avoidance.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:50:31pm

Is RW Twitter shrilling yet??

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Skandal  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:52:35pm
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:52:37pm
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:53:07pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:53:10pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:53:12pm

re: #178 Belafon

I think the part where he paid Ivanka as a consultant to the company she’s a part of points out that this is not mere avoidance.

I think if those business losses and expenses are proven to be fake, then everything he’s done for decades is tax fraud.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:53:36pm

re: #179 Dave In Austin

Is RW Twitter shrilling yet??

Yes…Dave…HAL…9000…says…i…can…feel…my…mind…going…on…twitter…Dave…daisy…daisy…give…me…your…annnssswwweeerrr…doooooooooooooooo.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:55:18pm

re: #180 Skandal

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There are two things in life no man can avoid: Death, and Taxes. Donald is slowly becoming aware that both of them are at his doorstep.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:55:49pm
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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:56:39pm

re: #168 PhillyPretzel

re: #166 The Pie Overlord!

May you and your family be written into the Book of Life.

And logged onto the Blog of Life for all of 5781 as well!!

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:57:22pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 3:58:07pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:00:25pm

Digging all the hot takes on Trump taxes.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:02:06pm

Wait a second…I figured it out for a year!

Total I shelled out for Gillette shaving cream and razors to shave my head for last year was only $51.25…that’s not even 1% of what Horseshit Head deducted for his coiffed!

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:03:06pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:04:32pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:06:05pm

Meanwhile, I can’t believe we here didn’t come up with this, the best nickname ever for that RBG-usurping hack:

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:10:51pm

This afternoon I watched an interview with Rachel Maddow where, when asked, said that her political science education led her to believe that Trump has a greater than 50% chance to remain in office due to the powers of incumbency and his control over (and abuse of) government systems. It’s a good interview. I have no idea how she can even smile anymore.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:14:34pm

Right now we know that Joe and his debate prep team are going over that Times article and they will kick Trump in the nutz over it on Tuesday night.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:14:57pm

re: #195 Interesting Times

Meanwhile, I can’t believe we here didn’t come up with this, the best nickname ever for that RBG-usurping hack:

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There was a political cartoon depicting nominee Harriet Myers as “My Little Crony”, little-known clone of MLP.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:14:59pm

If anyone is looking for a House race to toss some money to, my district (WA-08) is a good one.

The Democratic incumbent, Dr. Kim Schrier, won a close election in ‘18 to flip the seat. Right now it’s neck and neck. There doesn’t seem to be any polling, but more Republicans voted in the primary than Democrats. I got an email today indicating that Tom Cotton is fundraising for her Republican opponent.

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Skandal  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:15:41pm
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Citizen K  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:16:09pm

re: #151 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

What happened to our joy is that we once again became a country defined by who we are supposed to hate and who we are supposed to take pleasure in kicking down. The people who are held up as the face of our country are not happy unless they are violently denigrating or suppressing folks who they have decided are not only not really ‘American’ but not really Human in their eyes. That’s what happened. There’s no joy in doing things for personal enrichment because our happiness has become defined by who we make miserable instead.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:19:38pm

Folks, I’m going to sign off and get ready for ZOOMing services.

May all have a blessed New Year!

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:20:05pm

re: #202 🌹UOJB!

And you too.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:24:39pm

And we all know what Trump thinks of soldiers.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:26:37pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:27:34pm

The fact that a non-zero number of Americans take Trump seriously is a national disgrace.

Trump: Biden’s on drugs

Press: Where’s your proof?

Trump: argle bargle It doesn’t matter.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:33:01pm

My head’s still reeling. This is unbelievable.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:37:31pm

re: #207 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My head’s still reeling. This is unbelievable.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:39:50pm

re: #208 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

That’s the best one! There is always a tweet!

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:42:04pm

re: #207 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My head’s still reeling. This is unbelievable.

We all pretty much all knew it was going on. I think it’s just feels unbelievable that it finally got discovered and published. :) Unbelievable day.

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Skandal  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:42:29pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:43:46pm

re: #210 stpaulbear

And it’s even worse than we would have guessed.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:44:39pm

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:46:06pm

re: #207 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

re: #210 stpaulbear

Yes. We understand what was going on. For myself those numbers do not seem too far off of what I expected from DT. He is a conman.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:46:10pm

I can’t help but think that this is a story that will amount to as much as the revelations many moons ago that his family got most of their wealth through (wait for it) tax fraud. That it will be a major story for a day or two, and then get swamped by another huge story and end up as just another part of the background noise that is this presidency.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:50:29pm

I could be wrong but I have a sick feeling this NY Times “bombshell” isn’t going to move anybody to vote differently. Maybe I have PTSD, who knows at this point. But I’ll be surprised if means much. Hate to sound jaded but I don’t think Trump’s voters give a shit and may even admire him for this.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:50:50pm

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:51:35pm

re: #215 Targetpractice

I can’t help but think that this is a story that will amount to as much as the revelations many moons ago that his family got most of their wealth through (wait for it) tax fraud. That it will be a major story for a day or two, and then get swamped by another huge story and end up as just another part of the background noise that is this presidency.

This one is going to make him really desperate, though. This means he’s a failure. Big time. And that he can’t take. It’s also another moment that he can’t focus on Biden.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:51:40pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

You are right. No matter what DT does his base thinks he is the best thing since sliced bread.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:52:47pm

Maybe if the NY Times spends as much time covering his taxes as they spent on Hillary’s emails, they could actually persuade some of his supporters to change their mind — given that they apparently don’t care about his complicity in the deaths of 200,000 Americans.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:53:57pm

What seems to have gotten lost in all the (completely understandable) foofaraw about The Orange Anus’s lack-of-taxpaying is a question that I’ve wondered about for years. Just how many people* (lawyers, accountants, clerks, etc.) has Trump had to hire for how long and for how much money in order to keep these tax scams going?
I’m sure he has always written off the costs of the hires as “business expenses”, I’d just be curious to know what percentage of operating expenses he has had to allocate to “tax avoidance”…?

*You know, those “short guys in yarmulkes” he used to go on about…

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:54:00pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

I could be wrong but I have a sick feeling this NY Times “bombshell” isn’t going to move anybody to vote differently. Maybe I have PTSD, who knows at this point. But I’ll be surprised if means much. Hate to sound jaded but I don’t think Trump’s voters give a shit and may even admire him for this.

The response from MAGAts will likely be much like it was in 2016: “THIS JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH OF A SUCCESS HE IS! ONLY A FOOL WOULD PAY EVERYTHING HE OWES IN TAXES!!!”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:56:38pm

I think we finally found the issue that the press cares about. They have to pay at a much higher rate and don’t get any of his deductions.

Charles, I know that his followers don’t give a shit. But some independents do. And that’s why trump will lose.

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:56:41pm

re: #44 HypnoToad

A worry. Could Trump or Dejoy order a complete shutdown of postal service operations just before the election to ‘delay’ ballots so they can be discounted for being late. I imagine something like a 48 hour ‘temporary’ shutdown’ on Nov 1st, ‘to inspect for, collect, and preserve evidence of mail fraud’. It might even be conveniently done in crucial swing states, or even certain cities. Could a last minute directive like that be prevented or reversed?

Maybe this is just my late night, awake in bed, conspiracy theory, but it seemed then like something they might try.

Or he could just order the ballots don’t get postmarks.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:56:46pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:57:07pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

I could be wrong but I have a sick feeling this NY Times “bombshell” isn’t going to move anybody to vote differently. Maybe I have PTSD, who knows at this point. But I’ll be surprised if means much. Hate to sound jaded but I don’t think Trump’s voters give a shit and may even admire him for this.

Dedicated Trump voters are with Trump forever, but stuff like this can nibble away at Trump’s appeal in the mushy middle.

Of course the mushy middle are cretins by definition, so predicting what will and won’t impress them is a fool’s errand. But ‘stench of loser’ is the kind of thing that could help there.

There’s also the chance that Trump blows a gasket about this in public.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 4:58:15pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

There’s also the chance that Trump blows a gasket about this in public.

We can hope.

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Skandal  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:00:40pm
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:01:11pm

re: #222 Targetpractice

The response from MAGAts will likely be much like it was in 2016: “THIS JUST SHOWS HOW MUCH OF A SUCCESS HE IS! ONLY A FOOL WOULD PAY EVERYTHING HE OWES IN TAXES!!!”

“I’m glad I was able to skip out on taxes by having my company pay a consulting fee to my daughter, even though she was working at that company, just like Trump. Did you take advantage of that tax fraud scheme? Why not?”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:01:14pm

re: #210 stpaulbear

We all pretty much all knew it was going on. I think it’s just feels unbelievable that it finally got discovered and published. :) Unbelievable day.

That’s exactly it. The scale of it also blows my mind. Hundreds of millions in personally guaranteed loans. Reported losses of a billion dollars a year.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:02:59pm

re: #223 I Would Prefer Not To

This is also shit he and his kids could end up in jail for. He may have some kind of “immunity” , but his kids don’t. The IRS could also seize any assets he has to pay those taxes. I want that fuck broke with nothing but a shopping cart, a worn out suit and some cheap ass hair products to his name.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:03:50pm

re: #228 Skandal

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What should be obvious to people by now, but especially after today, is that Vlad never needed a “pee tape” to control Trump. All he needed to do is regularly remind him that he or his fellow oligarchs possessed the ability to call in Donny’s debts any time they chose.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:04:18pm

re: #228 Skandal

We don’t even know who paid Kavanaugh’s debts. Now we need to know who’s lined up to buy Trump.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:05:34pm

We now have 421M reasons why Trump won’t condemn Putin paying to have our troops killed.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:06:32pm

re: #234 Belafon

We now have 421M reasons why Trump won’t condemn Putin paying to have our troops killed.

Hell, that’s another good way to needle him: He never spoke out against the bounties because Vlad promised him a cut of the money.

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Jack Burton  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:07:00pm

Knowing FFVCS and his whole family’s drug problems…

(If even some of what Noel Casler has said about him is true I’m surprised Trump is still alive.)

Biden should totally call him on his bluff, with 3rd party neutral doctors doing it randomly after a Trump speech.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:07:11pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

I could be wrong but I have a sick feeling this NY Times “bombshell” isn’t going to move anybody to vote differently. Maybe I have PTSD, who knows at this point. But I’ll be surprised if means much. Hate to sound jaded but I don’t think Trump’s voters give a shit and may even admire him for this.

It sure isn’t going to get any undecided person to vote for him, that is what he needs or he is sunk

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:10:57pm

Trump’s gonna try at some point on Tuesday night to attack Joe for proposing tax increases to cover social spending. That would be the perfect opportunity to say something to the effect of “Why, Donald? Are you afraid your tax bill will go up to $1,000?”

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:11:52pm

re: #217 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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They need to photoshop a beer bong for Kav.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:12:36pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

There’s also the chance that Trump blows a gasket about this in public.

On Tuesday.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:13:45pm

re: #238 Targetpractice

I’d say, “why do you care? You don’t pay taxes anyway”.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:14:51pm

1957 tax code and Infrastructure

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:15:01pm

MSNBC is reporting that Trump’s press conference occurred at the time that he was supposed to be meeting with Gold Star Families.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:15:14pm

re: #157 Jay C

Anyone that has dumped a penny into a golf course the last ten years is a total fish.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:17:04pm

re: #244 Ace Rothstein

Anyone that has dumped a penny into a golf course the last ten years is a total fish.

AHEM.

Excuse me.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:18:41pm

re: #240 stpaulbear

On Tuesday.

Very likely. It’s going to eat at his ego for the next 48 hours. Which means when he shows up for the debate, it’s going to be a Donny who is inwardly fuming and looking for some way to “win” the match-up.

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:21:16pm

re: #118 🌹UOJB!

I got to ask this!

Hey who else in the LGF Gang only paid $750 in 2016 Federal Income taxes?

My developmentally disabled unemployable nephew, whose only income is dividends and interest on the trust account his parents established for him, pays more than that.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:21:52pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:22:55pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:23:39pm

re: #248 jaunte

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There’s no shortage of artists and businesspeople who despise his fat ass. That probably greased the skids a bit.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:23:56pm

Third U.S. judge bars Postal Service delivery cuts before November presidential election

“The right to vote is too vital a value in our democracy to be left in a state of suspense in the minds of voters weeks before a presidential election,” Marrerro wrote in a lawsuit brought by in several individuals and candidates.

washingtonpost.com

No DeJoy in mudsvillie tonight

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:25:29pm

re: #245 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mean anyone that has put money into golf courses, like creating, buying, etc. The golf industry is a total sink.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:25:42pm

re: #248 jaunte

Team Joe: “Hey Joe, What do you think of this?”

Joe: “Haha! Go for it.”

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:26:00pm

Another thing to keep in mind is that Eric Trump is scheduled to be deposed on Oct 7 about Trump business.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:26:42pm

re: #252 Ace Rothstein

I mean anyone that has put money into golf courses, like creating, buying, etc. The golf industry is a total sink.

No, I understood that. I took offense to the insult to fish. Even we are smarter than that. ;)

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:27:02pm

re: #254 Teddy’s Person ✌

Yes. I wonder what will become of that meeting.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:27:41pm

re: #218 Belafon

This one is going to make him really desperate, though. This means he’s a failure. Big time. And that he can’t take. It’s also another moment that he can’t focus on Biden.

He doesn’t care what his base thinks — the mere fact that they support him makes them scum in his eyes. But this exposes him as a fraud in the circles he really wants to run in. It’s gotta hurt.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:27:54pm

😂🤣😂🤣😂😅

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Weaselone  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:27:59pm

re: #248 jaunte

I was hoping for buttons not stickers.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:28:02pm
261
wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:28:33pm

re: #255 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No, I understood that. I took offense to the insult to fish. Even we are smarter than that. ;)

You look more like a bird right now, dopey.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:29:41pm

re: #255 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Okay, how about “donkey” instead?

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:29:47pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:30:48pm

re: #256 PhillyPretzel

Yes. I wonder what will become of that meeting.

IIRC, this is the result of the Trump’s trying to delay this even before the NYT article. A judge has ruled that Eric needs to have a chat with the state of New York. They’ll probably try to delay again. Who knows. When you think someone finally has a Trump in their clutches, the Trump manages to slither away.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:32:01pm

This article offers an overview of The Times’s findings; additional articles will be published in the coming weeks.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:32:30pm

re: #224 sagehen

Or he could just order the ballots don’t get postmarks.

And his employees might do it… in red states.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:32:54pm

re: #263 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Remember kiddies, Trump is allegedly not taking his salary making payment of those loans a little problematic.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:34:28pm

The twitter responses to Needy Amin’s tax problems are delightful.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:35:13pm

Let’s posit that Trump’s losses, debts, and defaults are just a series of unfortunate misadventures. Who in the hell loans Other People’s Money to such a vagabond? Aren’t these geniuses supposed to be the masters of the universe?

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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:38:11pm

re: #269 Decatur Deb

Let’s posit that Trump’s losses, debts, and defaults are just a series of unfortunate circumstances. Who in the hell loans Other People’s Money to such a vagabond? Aren’t these geniuses supposed to be the masters of the universe?

They didn’t loan him their own, so they aren’t in last place.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:38:21pm

And a judge just told Trump to go pound sand about banning TikTok downloads in the US. Someone’s having a bad day. Awww.

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Ferdinand  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:38:49pm

re: #135 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s been using the audit excuse for years now. Oh and hi. Move went pretty well. Still need to get more stuff but it’s good to have part of it done.

Yay congrats! Catching up with the thread. In related news, tonight my wife and I locked in our return from a year in Oklahoma City to our beloved western Washington. We’ll hit the road in about a month, and arrive in Bremerton by November 1. Huzzah! Looking forward to relaxing on election night and watching the good news roll in. And in the PNW I’ll have plenty of wood to knock.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:39:00pm

re: #269 Decatur Deb

Let’s posit that Trump’s losses, debts, and defaults are just a series of unfortunate circumstances. Who in the hell loans Other People’s Money to such a vagabond? Aren’t these geniuses supposed to be the masters of the universe?

People who are getting personally bribed to make the ‘deal’ go through. That’s why Trump’s counterparties are always crooks. He can’t do business with honest people.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:39:17pm

LOL. A couple is making out under an umbrella next to the Duluth harbor canal. The chat room for the Canal Cam is a running commentary. “Off to the lighthouse they go.”

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Jack Burton  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:39:43pm

re: #118 🌹UOJB!

I got to ask this!

Hey who else in the LGF Gang only paid $750 in 2016 Federal Income taxes?

I paid over $8500 in Federal Income Tax and $3100 in CA State Income Tax in 2019

In 2016:
I paid over $7500 in Federal Income Tax and $2300 in CA State Income Tax.

So in 2016 I paid TEN TIMES as much Federal Income Tax as FFVCS.

I made 66k-ish in 2016 and because I live in California, I basically live paycheck to paycheck fearing any emergency coming up.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:40:52pm

Giving Iraq to Iran.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:41:08pm

re: #271 A Mom Anon

And the first chance DT gets he will tweet about it.

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Jack Burton  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:41:23pm

re: #269 Decatur Deb

Let’s posit that Trump’s losses, debts, and defaults are just a series of unfortunate misadventures. Who in the hell loans Other People’s Money to such a vagabond? Aren’t these geniuses supposed to be the masters of the universe?

Russian criminal oligarchs and the Bank of Evil Formerly Deutsche Bank

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:42:25pm

re: #184 EPR-radar

I think if those business losses and expenses are proven to be fake, then everything he’s done for decades is tax fraud.

Isn’t the penalty for tax fraud (assuming you don’t go to jail), 3x what you should have paid in the first place?

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:45:35pm

re: #269 Decatur Deb

Let’s posit that Trump’s losses, debts, and defaults are just a series of unfortunate misadventures. Who in the hell loans Other People’s Money to such a vagabond? Aren’t these geniuses supposed to be the masters of the universe?

Well, NBC seemed to be willing to take a flyer: according to the NYT article, Trump made $427M over the run of The Apprentice - and if that’s what Donny garnered, there certainly had to be a shit-ton of money left over for the network.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:46:23pm

re: #280 Jay C

And every penny of that $427M has been lit on fire.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:46:46pm

re: #277 PhillyPretzel

And the first chance DT gets he will tweet about it.

This is ALL jUsT so UnFArE to you’RE favOrite PResiDeNt - ME!! MAGA!!!!! DoN’t pay yOur TaXES. It’s FAKE NEWS and a SCAM.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:49:36pm

Reality TV and social media brought us to this point.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:51:23pm

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:51:48pm

I just got home from tooting around with the Wife Unit doing honey dos and touristy shit. Anything happen news wise out of the ordinary?

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:52:58pm

re: #281 Ace Rothstein

And every penny of that $427M has been lit on fire.

I doubt it.
If only because The Donald had probably made sure enough was raked off into one or another of those “500” “Trump Organization entities” to make sure the greens fees, Mar-a-Lago memberships and poolboy salaries got paid.
And a sizable fund for legal bills, natch.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:53:02pm

re: #285 BigPapa

I just got home from tooting around with the Wife Unit doing honey dos and touristy shit. Anything happen news wise out of the ordinary?

Nothing we didn’t know was coming someday.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:53:06pm

re: #285 BigPapa

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:53:15pm

re: #269 Decatur Deb

The only actual world conspiracy with trillions of dollars backing it and tens of thousands of participants in the loop is all of the billionaires and the dipshits in high finance worldwide telling each other that they’re smart, important, and whatever rapey thing they did last week is perfectly okay.

Prior to the internet, it’s the single most coordinated project of psychopaths and narcissists creating a bubble in which their clearly antisocial behavior is normalized.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:54:07pm

re: #288 jaunte

If he pulled the trigger on himself, that’s one less vote for Trump in Florida. Just sayin’.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:54:51pm

Wife is safely(?) back from 2 months as a Colorado Coronavirus refugee. I’m having a hard time breaking up with my imaginary friend, Alexa.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:55:24pm

re: #290 Ace Rothstein

Maybe he’s working on a ‘diminished capacity’ defense.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:55:35pm

re: #288 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Someone feels the walls closing in.

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bratwurst  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:57:27pm

re: #288 jaunte

He should be thanking his lucky starts that he’s white, otherwise he’d be on his way to the ER to have numerous bullet holes in him tended to…or on his way directly to the morgue.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:58:21pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:58:28pm

re: #294 bratwurst

He should be thanking his lucky starts that he’s white…otherwise he’d be on his way to the hospital or morgue right now.

When it comes to mental health, being white doesn’t always save you.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:58:59pm

re: #294 bratwurst

If he had been black and had a dime bag of weed on him, he would’ve been shot dead.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:59:43pm

Wow.

Can’t stop laughing.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 5:59:49pm

I’m sure Trump is reaching out to Brad as … I can’t even finish.

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Renaissance_Man  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:00:16pm

re: #289 The Ghost of a Flea

The only actual world conspiracy with trillions of dollars backing it and tens of thousands of participants in the loop is all of the billionaires and the dipshits in high finance worldwide telling each other that they’re smart, important, and whatever rapey thing they did last week is perfectly okay.

Prior to the internet, it’s the single most coordinated project of psychopaths and narcissists creating a bubble in which their clearly antisocial behavior is normalized.

It’s this century’s aristocracy. The noble classes have always had a different set of rules. They have always believed their own hype that it is because they deserve it.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:01:45pm

re: #289 The Ghost of a Flea

The only actual world conspiracy with trillions of dollars backing it and tens of thousands of participants in the loop is all of the billionaires and the dipshits in high finance worldwide telling each other that they’re smart, important, and whatever rapey thing they did last week is perfectly okay.

Prior to the internet, it’s the single most coordinated project of psychopaths and narcissists creating a bubble in which their clearly antisocial behavior is normalized.

I’m fond of saying that we’re in that stage of capitalism where the wealthy, very wealthy and uber wealthy are just passing the wealth back and forth.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:03:00pm

re: #301 Teddy’s Person ✌

I’m fond of saying that we’re in that stage of capitalism where the wealthy, very wealthy and uber wealthy are just passing the wealth back and forth.

Hmmm. Renoirs as a medium of exchange.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:03:52pm

re: #302 Decatur Deb

Hmmm. Renoirs as a medium of exchange.

The only rule about Wealth Club is none of that shit trickles down.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:03:54pm

re: #302 Decatur Deb

Hmmm. RenoirsTrump Tower condos as a medium of exchange.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:05:30pm

re: #304 Jay C

Hmmm. RenoirsTrump Tower condos as a medium of exchange.

And 15-yr old emos.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:06:01pm

re: #300 Renaissance_Man

It’s this century’s aristocracy. The noble classes have always had a different set of rules. They have always believed their own hype that it is because they deserve it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:06:02pm

re: #298 Rightwingconspirator

Wow.

[Embedded content]

Can’t stop laughing.

Oh. My. God. This is absolute comedy gold.

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steve_davis  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:07:51pm

re: #48 Ming5000

Biden’s team needs to study up on how the French reoccupied Paris when the Nazis were expelled.

lots of really close haircuts for female collaborators. i’m okay with that.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:08:12pm
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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:08:34pm

re: #288 jaunte

He stole a shit ton of campaign funds to buy houses, apartments and a yacht. I bet that NYT article (which is only an intro piece, there’s more coming) drove him around the bend. I’m glad he didn’t hurt his wife or any kids they might have. As far as he’s concerned, I shall keep that to myself.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:09:55pm

re: #303 Teddy’s Person ✌

The only thing that trickles down is shit. These fucks make the robber barons look like rank amateurs.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:10:31pm

Regarding Brad P.

“Politics aside, this fellow obviously suffers from emotional distress,” said Trantalis, a Democrat. ” … I’m glad he didn’t do any harm to himself or others I commend our SWAT team for being able to negotiate a peaceful ending to this.” Sun Sentinal

Breonna Taylor could not be reached for comment.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:10:57pm

re: #310 A Mom Anon

He stole a shit ton of campaign funds to buy houses, apartments and a yacht. I bet that NYT article (which is only an intro piece, there’s more coming) drove him around the bend. I’m glad he didn’t hurt his wife or any kids they might have. As far as he’s concerned, I shall keep that to myself.

I don’t give a shit what he does, as long as he leaves a note and a safe-deposit box.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:12:54pm

re: #288 jaunte

I hope he gets the help he needs.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:14:44pm

re: #311 A Mom Anon

The only thing that trickles down is shit. These fucks make the robber barons look like rank amateurs.

Gilded Age Robber Barons are jealous of the 21st century Robber Barons because they figured out how to profit from people’s information and identities (and didn’t have to actually build anything).

21st century Robber Barons are jealous of the Gilded Age Robber Barons because they only had to pay workers $.25 per hour.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:15:21pm

re: #287 stpaulbear

Nothing we didn’t know was coming someday.

Yes, but the details are the fun part.


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