Songwriter James McMurtry Discusses Music, Politics and the Need for Change [Podcast]

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James McMurtry argued for postponing all tour dates in The Rolling Stone this spring. Today on The Lone Star Plate he discusses politics, music and the need for change.
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The formidable singer-songwriter and rock-folk musician James McMurtry has always had a political message behind his music. 

James has been working on his new album for months now, and with it being almost complete, he tells me when it’ll be released and how the pandemic is effecting new music coming out. 

Arguably, James led the way in his Corona response as he said in an interview to Rolling Stones back in March ‘Postponing tour dates is the only ethical choice’. 

From Donald Trump to socialism and the welfare state, we discuss the political state the country’s currently in and the changes that need to happen. 

“You’re only here for a certain amount of time. You’ve got to do what you can while you’re here.” - James McMurtry  

Time Stamps:
01:00 - James’s thoughts on live streaming compared to house concerts. 
04:13 - The ways some promoters skim extra profits from shows. 
06:49 - The importance of politics in music, and the current tribalistic nature that is emerging as a result of COVID. 
10:35 - The rise of authoritarianism and the way history repeats itself. 
17:40 - The new album James has been working on and when it will be released. 
20:05 - The issues with America’s fear of socialism during a time when we need a welfare state. 
25:02 - Working and living in Spain, and the corruption that’s embedded in the country. 
29:10 - The beginning of on the ground real-time war coverage. 
34:20 - The Rolling Stone article James wrote about the need to stop live shows during the pandemic. 
39:30 - The lack of leadership there is in the current government and some of Trump’s previously failed ventures.
47:36 - How to connect with James online. 

Resources: 

Listen to James McMurtry on Bandcamp https://jamesmcmurtryofficial.bandcamp.com/
Listen to James McMurtry on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/artist/52BKc9OtCbQstAAPTIvLGH?si=o12WMbnpQAqvEBwNJaykHA
Op-Ed: Postponing the Tour Dates Is the Only Ethical Choice by James McMurtry for Rolling Stone https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/james-mcmurtry-coronavirus-trump-967512/
The Twilight of Democracy https://www.amazon.com/dp/0385545800/?tag=littlegreenfo-20

Connect with James McMurtry:
https://www.jamesmcmurtry.com/
https://facebook.com/JamesMcMurtry/

Connect with Patrick Scott Armstrong:
IG: @patrickscottarmstrong
https://www.facebook.com/patrickscottvideos/
patrick@texasrealfood.com

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Decatur Deb  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:12:49pm

Get it out while the getting is good.

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:16:55pm

Hey guys, let’s be careful about cracking jokes at Brad Parscale’s expense. I personally know what it’s like to be suicidal, not waving guns around, but otherwise threatening suicide. When I was in that state, it was like my mind had totally turned in on itself and was gnawing itself to pieces.

I’m no fan of Parscale, but attempted suicide is serious business. So be cool about how you talk about him, because there are some of us who have been where he is now, and to be perfectly honest, he very well may not be in his right mind.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:17:17pm

re: #2 mmmirele

1000% this. So much.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:17:39pm

Prediction. Biden’s top line of the night will be something like: “We need a President who knows how, and wants to do the job, not someone who needs the money.”

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:24:26pm

re: #2 mmmirele

Noted. Despite the death and destruction waged on our lives with help from him, he’s a human being. And we’re not monsters. I hope he gets the help he needs.

After that, I hope he gets good lawyers that help him negotiate a plea deal and turn on that evil bastard.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:24:55pm

re: #4 I Would Prefer Not To

Prediction. Biden’s top line of the night will be something like: “We need a President who knows how, and wants to do the job, not someone who needs the money.”

Biden should propose mailing every American $750 and call it the Trump Tax Refund.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:26:18pm

He always leaves an impression.

Although Jimmy mumbles sometime.

James McMurtry and Robert A. Kraft - Gun Totin’ Libtards Episode 01

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:27:55pm

If you need a laugh, Martin is trying to help Claire with her cover letters trying to get a job after getting her library science degree: questionablecontent.net.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:28:23pm
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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:29:30pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:32:39pm

Maybe Brad will be willing to talk about it down the road.

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William Lewis  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:34:23pm

re: #8 Belafon

If you need a laugh, Martin is trying to help Claire with her cover letters trying to get a job after getting her library science degree: questionablecontent.net.

“In conclusion, by the time you have finished this sentence you will have hired me”. I love that line :D

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:35:38pm

re: #11 Dave In Austin

Maybe Brad will be willing to talk about it down the road.

I’d be pissed if my boat sunk too.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:35:50pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:39:22pm

re: #14 Belafon

If Biden called Trump a “lying motherfucker” on stage Tuesday night, he’ll win all fifty states.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:41:26pm
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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:41:26pm

re: #2 mmmirele

Truth.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:41:52pm
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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:45:03pm

re: #18 jaunte

Oh please. He hasn’t been in the news or subject of any serious attention since he got fired. And no blaming “The Liberal Failing NYT”, which is what one might expect. Hmm 🤔…….

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:45:23pm

re: #15 Ace Rothstein

If Biden called Trump a “lying motherfucker” on stage Tuesday night, he’ll win all fifty states.

In response to Trumps drug test for the debate:

Joe Biden “intends to deliver his debate answers in words. If the president thinks his best case is made in urine, he can have at it,” the campaign said in a statement. “We’d expect nothing less from Donald Trump, who pissed away the chance to protect the lives of 200K Americans when he didn’t make a plan to stop COVID-19.”

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:45:23pm
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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:45:47pm
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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:47:37pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:53:41pm

I suspect Paracale may be the first of many. The Trump house of cards is starting to fall.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:55:37pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m betting there are lots of panicked phone calls flying all over the place between members of this administration, the Trumpco thieves and several attorney like humans. Hee. Hee.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:56:03pm
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:56:34pm

re: #22 plansbandc

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I wasn’t looking to learn how to say “Son of a bitch” in Spanish, but now I know.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:57:39pm

re: #23 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

Umm, Romney’s “47%” blunder said more about class resentment than anything Obama ever said, but the class entitlement of that comment did help get Obama elected.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 6:57:40pm
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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:02:08pm

My neighborhood is filled with big pickups, most of which belong to people who tend to have “Blue Lives Matter” signs on their front yards or those gross blue stripe flag stickers. We also have the largest number of black residents in the city outside of the really poor area of town. So, I had to back up and verify that one of the big trucks had a sticker that read “Make racists afraid again.”

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:02:33pm

re: #15 Ace Rothstein

If Biden called Trump a “lying motherfucker” on stage Tuesday night, he’ll win all fifty states.

Not true, but he should do it anyway. Can’t hurt, might help.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:05:58pm

The five stages of grief are:

denial.
anger.
bargaining.
depression.
acceptance.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:05:59pm

kroger now has toilet paper. So much toilet paper that they have it stacked in columns, on end caps, and in displays in the big walk areas:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:07:00pm
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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:07:40pm

re: #32 jaunte

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The five stages of grief are:

denial.
anger.
bargaining.
depression.
acceptance.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:08:55pm

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:09:39pm

re: #35 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:11:57pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:13:56pm

“…Michael Fisher, the former head of the company, pled guilty to nine counts of felony tax fraud and received 37 months in federal prison. Fisher Sand and Gravel was able to defer prosecution against them by agreeing to $1.16 million in restitution and penalties with a promise to install safeguards against future fraud at the company.”
usresistnews.org

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:14:39pm

“nine counts of felony tax fraud”

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:15:07pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:15:14pm

re: #33 Belafon

kroger now has toilet paper. So much toilet paper that they have it stacked in columns, on end caps, and in displays in the big walk areas:

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My 67 year old sister was telling me yesterday that it’s time to start stocking up with a winter’s worth of supplies like we did in March, and I’m feeling like she’s probably right.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:16:29pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:16:37pm

re: #39 jaunte

$2 billion dollars? And how much of this fabled wall has actually been built? Outrageous.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:17:12pm

re: #44 Patricia Kayden

3 miles.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:17:26pm

re: #44 Patricia Kayden

Lots of slush in $2 billion dollars.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:19:32pm

re: #44 Patricia Kayden

$2 billion dollars? And how much of this ranked wall has actually been built? Outrageous.

Portions of the wall that that company built have already fallen over.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:20:46pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:22:47pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:24:57pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:25:04pm

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:26:13pm

By the way, if anyone pulls the durr hurr trump paying next to no taxes makes him smart!1!! crap, feel free to fling this in their face:

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:27:03pm

re: #32 jaunte

Back In The U.S.S.R

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:27:54pm

re: #14 Belafon

also, i don’t think biden should like, punch him in the face, but i’m not sure it would hurt him if he did. have you met any americans? he might actually gain a few points for it.

But punching him in the face would require he get within arm’s length.

Can’t he just stab him with an epee?

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:28:26pm

re: #53 Dave In Austin

Criminals looting Russia team up with Trumps to loot us. MAGA!

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:30:53pm

re: #39 jaunte

Fisher Sand and Gravel was able to defer prosecution against them by agreeing to $1.16 million in restitution and penalties with a promise to install safeguards against future fraud at the company.”

Which “safeguard” was likely agreeing to pay twice as much to the Trump 2020 Slush Campaign Fund…

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:33:37pm

Trump defenders gabbling about Russophobia deliberately miss the point that Trump’s Russian allies are the criminals stealing the Russian people blind and laundering their ill-gotten gains out of the country.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:33:46pm

Oh, for Biden to say this at the debate:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:35:12pm

re: #58 Interesting Times

Oh, for Biden to say this at the debate:

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We tried to warn everyone. Honest, we did.

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:36:00pm

re: #27 Belafon

I wasn’t looking to learn how to say “Son of a bitch” in Spanish, but now I know.

also, Chinga tu madre!! is “fuck your mother”.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:38:50pm

re: #59 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If what we all hope to happen on Nov 3 happens, should I go to Thanksgiving on the red hat side of the family?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:39:10pm

Close your eye’s and just let it play. You WILL feel better.

The Bare Necessities (The Jungle Book Cover)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:39:39pm

re: #61 Ace Rothstein

If what we all hope to happen on Nov 3 happens, should I go to Thanksgiving on the red hat side of the family?

I’m going to mine, win or lose. There’s a definite temptation to pick up some Biden swag to wear or display.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:39:45pm

re: #61 Ace Rothstein

If what we all hope to happen on Nov 3 happens, should I go to Thanksgiving on the red hat side of the family?

if only to gloat (siliently). Or fuck them.

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:40:20pm

re: #60 sagehen

also, Chinga tu madre!! is “fuck your mother”.

Ah, the things we didn’t learn in high school Spanish. I’ll be we would have paid more attention if that were in the lesson plan somewhere.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:40:21pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:43:13pm

I figured it out, guys. I figured out why it feels so surreal right now. It’s impossible to believe in Fucking Hell 2020 that some good news has actually occurred. Trump’s Taxes are real, yes precious, and for once, we allow ourselves to smile. Still righteously outraged, but we know without a doubt that tomorrow’s morning dump is going to be an absolute banger.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:46:38pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:50:19pm

Just wrote out a long ranty post on my FB about how hoaxes don’t kill a million people and fuck any of you who refuse to take it seriously.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:50:24pm

re: #68 BigPapa

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I may or may not have almost snorted my drink out my nose at this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:50:48pm

re: #68 BigPapa

Funniest shit I’ve read all day.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:51:15pm

Today is the the best I’ve felt in a long time. The Great October Shitshow of all October Shitshows is starting.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:52:57pm

re: #72 BigPapa

Today is the the best I’ve felt in a long time. The Great October Shitshow of all October Shitshows is starting.

The part that’s making me smile is, Hair Furor is undoubtedly incommunicado right now. I’m not sure if someone has told him yet, but either way, the Internet has an entire night shift to refine its material for when he gets up in the morning.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:55:35pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:57:30pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:58:16pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 7:58:23pm

Apparently I missed that this was the subject of his afternoon presser… chalk that up to me being engrossed in reading the actual article and the crazy finale to the baseball regular season. Nevertheless, the morning’s battle between Fuckface von Clownstick and the trolls of Twitter will be legendary.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:00:12pm

re: #77 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And the first debate the day after will be…interesting.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:00:21pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:01:18pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:02:03pm

re: #79 jaunte

Replies on the original tweet are entertaining.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:03:23pm

re: #79 jaunte

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I like this one:

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:03:36pm

re: #79 jaunte

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:04:02pm

Of course there’s a tweet.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:04:15pm

Oh, but we’re not done being amazing: O’Keefe/Veritas just dropped a new bit and he’s trying to make it trend. Called #BallotHarvesting. Sorry Jamesy! LOL!

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:04:53pm

I catered a wedding today up at the ski area so I’ve been off the internet all day.

What the fuck is going on?!? Goddamn, man.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:05:30pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

If he gets audited “almost every single year,” can we see the returns that weren’t?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:05:34pm

re: #86 teleskiguy

I catered a wedding today up at the ski area so I’ve been off the internet all day.

What the fuck is going on?!? Goddamn, man.

Ohhhh, man. I hope you’re a speed reader or a late-nighter. You have some serious reading material to get caught up on.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:05:49pm

re: #72 BigPapa

Today is the the best I’ve felt in a long time. The Great October Shitshow of all October Shitshows is starting.

What I’m really hoping for is an Operation Rolling Thunder vs. Trump by the establishments of both parties, running continuously from now to the election.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:05:55pm

re: #86 teleskiguy

Shoe warehouses are dropping.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:06:45pm

re: #85 BigPapa

Oh, but we’re not done being amazing: O’Keefe/Veritas just dropped a new bit and he’s trying to make it trend. Called #BallotHarvesting. Sorry Jamesy! LOL!

Is this related to that guy who tried to infiltrate Democratic-aligned voter registration orgs and ask them how to register illegal immigrants?

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:07:19pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:09:10pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:09:37pm

re: #93 jaunte

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WINSTON! Pedal FASTER!

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:10:06pm

re: #76 Dave In Austin

Name a food that tastes better as leftovers.

Turkey.
Pineapple fried rice.
Lo mein.
Pie.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:10:38pm

She warned us, about every-fucking-thing.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:11:00pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:11:00pm

re: #95 sagehen

Turkey.
Pineapple fried rice.
Lo mein.
Pie.

Ooh, yeah, Chinese does usually taste better as leftovers. And when Mrs. Fish does twice-fried rice… (reheating fried rice in a pan with oil and some fresh veg and cooked meat)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:12:08pm

This is kind of funny:

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:14:12pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:17:17pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:17:38pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:17:53pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:18:21pm

re: #86 teleskiguy

I catered a wedding today up at the ski area so I’ve been off the internet all day.

What the fuck is going on?!? Goddamn, man.

I know the feeling - Yom Kippur in Israel means total media blackout and nothing being reported since 3-4 PM local time (early morning U.S. time), so wasn’t until I went online relatively late that I found the internet exploding and learned why.

Still at the third of the four stages of Liberal Trump Catastrophe Exposure:
- Confusion (“what’s going on?”)
- Realization (“oh my!”)
- Acute Hilarity (“Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!”)
- Smug Satisfaction

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:18:43pm

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

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And let’s not even bring up how much the Republicans tried to make hay of Hillary Clinton’s outfits when she was campaigning.

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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:19:23pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

I suspect Paracale may be the first of many. The Trump house of cards is starting to fall.

Just for reference (from 2018—Wendy Siegelman)

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:19:33pm
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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:21:06pm

I guess his taxes don’t need to be subpeona’d any more. While we’re having the Mother of All Shadenfruede-a-Paloozas right now, this is, legally speaking, an apocalyptic event. He’s fucked.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:22:21pm

re: #108 BigPapa

I guess his taxes don’t need to be subpeona’d any more. While we’re having the Mother of All Shadenfruede-a-Paloozas right now, this is, legally speaking, an apocalyptic event. He’s fucked.

The cat isn’t just out of the bag, it’s taken up residence and has started depositing mice on the front stoop.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:23:04pm

re: #57 jaunte

Trump defenders gabbling about Russophobia deliberately miss the point that Trump’s Russian allies are the criminals stealing the Russian people blind and laundering their ill-gotten gains out of the country.

“Show me in the taxes where we begin to talk about Russia.” When they do, then we ask why aren’t you worried?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:23:26pm

I have a feeling that Parscale is in some danger (think Epstein). He knows stuff and I lot of people in Florida are pro trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:23:41pm

I knew those fucking taxes would get out eventually and I knew they’d be full of all kinds of crazy shit.

I’m just ecstatic about the timing.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:24:04pm

This is what I’ve always hoped for if/when Trump’s taxes come out:

1) There is enough revulsion at the fraction of Trump’s crooked tax shit that is actually legal to generate real pressure for reform.

2) The GOP donor class blames Trump’s excesses for creating this political problem.

3) The order to cut Trump dead goes out from on high to the entire right wing noise machine, and they all turn on Trump instantaneously.

4) Trump has a public meltdown because of this betrayal by Fox News et al.

5) Tax reform under a D president, Senate and House goes through anyway.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:24:24pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

I knew those fucking taxes would get out eventually and I knew they’d be full of all kinds of crazy shit.

I’m just ecstatic about the timing.

Donald J. Trump will take his seat in the IRS Hall of Infamy next to Al Capone. That’s a huge fucking notch in their belt.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:25:24pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

I knew those fucking taxes would get out eventually and I knew they’d be full of all kinds of crazy shit.

I’m just ecstatic about the timing.

I honestly thought they would stay buried until after the election. That sure was how all the court cases were trending.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:26:06pm

Whoa - Jared Kushner just deleted every last one of his Twitter posts.

Edit: Not the case, my bad.
“Nothing to see here, people, move along”.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:26:09pm

re: #65 calochortus

Ah, the things we didn’t learn in high school Spanish. I’ll be we would have paid more attention if that were in the lesson plan somewhere.

I have a book floating somewhere around the house called “Streetwise Spanish” and it supposed to contain some of that. I bought it back before I seriously started learning Spanish and now I need to find it.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:26:10pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:26:25pm

I’m thinking of buying a digital camera for my trip to Vermont. I want a real camera, have used a canon Rebel and liked it. Will never do film again. Suggestions? New or used?

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:26:32pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:26:58pm

re: #116 (((Archangel1)))

Whoa - Jared Kushner just deleted every last one of his Twitter posts.

Time for the “burn everything” phase.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:27:43pm

re: #114 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Donald J. Trump will take his seat in the IRS Hall of Infamy next to Al Capone. That’s a huge fucking notch in their belt.

Unfortunately, I’m sure the IRS team tasked to deal with Trump’s tax lies and bullshit is grossly understaffed and under-resourced. The GOP guts tax enforcement at the IRS every chance it gets precisely to enable rich Republicans to get away with tax evasion.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:27:45pm

re: #107 jaunte

Months-ending-in-ber suprise.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:28:21pm

re: #123 stpaulbear

Months-ending-in-ber suprise.

Januaryber is gonna be epic.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:28:21pm

re: #116 (((Archangel1)))

Whoa - Jared Kushner just deleted every last one of his Twitter posts.

Where did you see this?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:29:36pm

re: #116 (((Archangel1)))

Wow! Wonder why.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:29:37pm

re: #118 Interesting Times

I never even saw an episode of the Apprentice, and it was always clear to me that this was Trump LARPing as some kind of business genius.

Of course, real business geniuses have more lucrative things to do with their time than play reality TV show pretend games.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:29:49pm

re: #77 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Apparently I missed that this was the subject of his afternoon presser… chalk that up to me being engrossed in reading the actual article and the crazy finale to the baseball regular season. Nevertheless, the morning’s battle between Fuckface von Clownstick and the trolls of Twitter will be legendary.

And he was supposed to be meeting with Gold Star families from what I read.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:30:10pm

re: #116 (((Archangel1)))

I read that he had not tweeted anything, so nothing lost.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:30:12pm

Yep. Kushner deleted everything.

mobile.twitter.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:30:28pm

re: #122 EPR-radar

Unfortunately, I’m sure the IRS team tasked to deal with Trump’s tax lies and bullshit is grossly understaffed and under-resourced. The GOP guts tax enforcement at the IRS every chance it gets precisely to enable rich Republicans to get away with tax evasion.

They don’t have to convict him of tax fraud. The audit plus the uncovering of his tax returns is enough.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:31:15pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:31:32pm

re: #130 Patricia Kayden

Yep. Kushner deleted everything.

mobile.twitter.com

There was nothing to delete. He doesn’t tweet.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:31:55pm

re: #116 (((Archangel1)))

Whoa - Jared Kushner just deleted every last one of his Twitter posts.

That’s a hoax. He’s never tweeted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:32:13pm

re: #132 jaunte

Amazon not paying taxes is fucking insane.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:32:28pm

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:33:12pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:33:41pm

re: #134 BigPapa

That’s a hoax. He’s never tweeted.

Sorry. My bad. Saw someone comment on this and thought it was a new thing.

Though to be fair, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility what with everything else going on today…

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:35:13pm

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

For scale:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:35:21pm

Portland

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:35:33pm

Right-wing FB: This is what one of them thinks about Trump.

Facebook wingnuts, don’t change!
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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:35:58pm

re: #113 EPR-radar

This is what I’ve always hoped for if/when Trump’s taxes come out:

1) There is enough revulsion at the fraction of Trump’s crooked tax shit that is actually legal to generate real pressure for reform.

2) The GOP donor class blames Trump’s excesses for creating this political problem.

3) The order to cut Trump dead goes out from on high to the entire right wing noise machine, and they all turn on Trump instantaneously.

4) Trump has a public meltdown because of this betrayal by Fox News et al.

5) Tax reform under a D president, Senate and House goes through anyway.

Nice thoughts, but it’s also just as likely that said “revulsion” never gets serious enough to get more than a handful of wingers and MAGAts upset about it for more than a minute. Trump’s appeal, AFAICT, is founded on a toxic stew of prejudice, fear, self-righteousness and tribalistic politics. And that mess is still going to be stinking up the Republican Party even after Trump gets the boot.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:36:24pm

re: #116 (((Archangel1)))

Whoa - Jared Kushner just deleted every last one of his Twitter posts.

hopefully the internet is forever.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:36:49pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

We knew but we didn’t think it would be so expensive.

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:37:33pm

re: #140 Dread Pirate Ron

Portland

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Do the cops think they’re going to be able to beat everybody into submission before Biden gets elected and installs a new cabinet?

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:37:36pm

re: #141 Sherlock Hound

“…The AP says that, if Trump had invested in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13 billion.”
fortune.com

But sure, super smart businessman.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:37:43pm

re: #116 (((Archangel1)))

Whoa - Jared Kushner just deleted every last one of his Twitter posts.

Heading for Russia?

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:38:31pm

re: #144 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

We knew but we didn’t think it would be so expensive.

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I’m wondering if the cost of his make-up trailer is in there.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:38:38pm

re: #143 Belafon

hopefully the internet is forever.

Sounds like we got played on that.

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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:38:40pm

re: #112 Eclectic Cyborg

I knew those fucking taxes would get out eventually and I knew they’d be full of all kinds of crazy shit.

I’m just ecstatic about the timing.

Wonder who dropped the dime (wonder if Mary Trump had anything to do with it)

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:39:35pm

re: #138 (((Archangel1)))

No worries! We all got each other’s back. I’ve dropped a few in my time and was corrected right quick up in here.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:40:35pm

re: #149 Belafon

Sounds like we got played on that.

Too bad. Kush is probably the smartest of that grisly gang, so he would probably know not to telegraph it when he does abscond.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:41:33pm

Kind of hoping for a rumor that Betsy DeVos has begun scuttling her yachts.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:41:38pm
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Sherlock Hound  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:42:54pm

re: #142 Jay C

Nice thoughts, but it’s also just as likely that said “revulsion” never gets serious enough to get more than a handful of wingers and MAGAts upset about it for more than a minute. Trump’s appeal, AFAICT, is founded on a toxic stew of prejudice, fear, self-righteousness and tribalistic politics. And that mess is still going to be stinking up the Republican Party even after Trump gets the boot.

I don’t see it, either. The Republican goal above all else is tax avoidance, and if tax evasion takes place, it will always be pled down to a misdemeanor. If you can avoid taxes, you can pay a lawyer or bribe someone. That is their nature.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:42:57pm

Hopefully this is the beginning of a bad week for Trump. Up next: getting trounced by Joe on Tuesday night.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:43:08pm

re: #153 jaunte

Kind of hoping for a rumor that Betsy DeVos has begun scuttling her yachts.

She probably has some kind of Blofeld style hideout ready in the Caribbean.
Nah, they aren’t that stylish or clever.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:43:55pm

re: #154 Dread Pirate Ron

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Not recalling offhand: why did Obama get socked with that huge tax bill? Was it a book deal (I think)?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:44:31pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

Hopefully this is the beginning of a bad week for Trump. Up next: getting trounced by Joe on Tuesday night.

No. You are not going to get away that easy. Monday comes before Tuesday. There will be tweets.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:44:59pm

re: #158 Jay C

Not recalling offhand: why did Obama get socked with that huge tax bill? Was it a book deal (I think)?

two books and some speeches.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:45:24pm

We all know what today’s news will bring tomorrow: ‘Dems in Disarray’ stories by Cillizza and others.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:47:00pm

Damn! Internet winner right here!

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:47:04pm

re: #155 Sherlock Hound

I don’t see it, either. The Republican goal above all else is tax avoidance, and if tax evasion takes place, it will always be pled down to a misdemeanor. If you can avoid taxes, you can pay a lawyer or bribe someone. That is their nature.

I wasn’t clear enough. Of course the GOP donor class loves tax evasion. But they don’t like rich people’s taxes becoming public in a way that can generate significant pressure for tax reform from non-Republicans. That’s a hassle they don’t need.

The US ruling class basically rules from the shadows. They don’t want this kind of publicity on their version of business as usual.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:47:46pm

I approve this dick-punch message:

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:48:08pm

re: #162 (((Archangel1)))

Well, wouldn’t he have to?

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:50:19pm

re: #127 EPR-radar

I never even saw an episode of the Apprentice, and it was always clear to me that this was Trump LARPing as some kind of business genius.

Of course, real business geniuses have more lucrative things to do with their time than play reality TV show pretend games.

Mark Cuban is a legit business genius, and he has time for Shark Tank. He’s even hired a whole staff to keep tabs on the projects he bids on, and aggressively mentors them.

His share of the profits from that is chump change to somebody in his bracket, but he seems to really enjoy it.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:51:48pm

Key point:

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:52:38pm

At the risk of belaboring the obvious, the Trump tax bomb will not motivate MAGAts to switch their votes to Biden. It may get some of them to stay home or switch to third parties (which is the same thing as staying home). On a more positive note, it may well motivate a lot of non-voters to get their asses to the polls on, or before, election day.

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:53:13pm

re: #111 I Would Prefer Not To

I have a feeling that Parscale is in some danger (think Epstein). He knows stuff and I lot of people in Florida are pro trump.

He’s currently in the custody of a hospital on a 72 hour hold (Baker Act). That’s a 5150 for denizens of California.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:54:23pm

re: #167 jaunte

Key point:

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I feel like this is how he wound up becoming President. I told Mrs. Fish that reviewing his case, it looked like the standard case of someone who pops up every few years, pumps the media and the rubes for cash, then dumps it into failing businesses to avoid paying taxes on it. The thing that jumped immediately to mind was running for President; worst case, his name is out there, and Republicans are always good for a cheap buck. Best case, he wins, he’s immune from prosecution for 4/8 years while he has an entire government to pump and dump, plus the revenue he can generate off of the “FORMER PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump” name for life.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:57:39pm

re: #166 sagehen

Mark Cuban is a legit business genius, and he has time for Shark Tank. He’s even hired a whole staff to keep tabs on the projects he bigs on, and aggressively mentor them.

His share of the profits from that is chump change to somebody in his bracket, but he seems to really enjoy it.

That feels a little different to me. Roughly that Mark Cuban has made a hobby out of what he does with Shark Tank.

But Trump has no hobbies (other than cheating at golf). Everything financial for him is a transaction with a winner and a loser. And it looks like the Apprentice actually was his main source of income for a while.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:59:15pm

re: #169 mmmirele

He’s currently in the custody of a hospital on a 72 hour hold (Baker Act). That’s a 5150 for denizens of California.

Am I totally crazy in thinking that some in power would like Mr. Parscale to disappear?

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ckkatz  Sep 27, 2020 • 8:59:32pm

re: #33 Belafon

kroger now has toilet paper. So much toilet paper that they have it stacked in columns, on end caps, and in displays in the big walk areas:

re: #42 stpaulbear

My 67 year old sister was telling me yesterday that it’s time to start stocking up with a winter’s worth of supplies like we did in March, and I’m feeling like she’s probably right.

“People don’t eat in the long run, they eat every day.”
- Harry Hopkins

Reportedly, grocery stores have been accumulating extra stock in their warehouses to try and minimize possible shortages. And the supply chain has been catching up with the demand.

However, having a bit of additional stock in your own house is probably a good thing.

Most advice I see recommends somewhere from 3 days to 2 weeks. Folks like the Mormon Church advocate 3 months or more. But even a little bit can be beneficial.

The three to five day time frame is in the event of a natural/short-term disaster.
ready.gov
fema.gov
texashelp.tamu.edu
fcs.uga.edu
extension.usu.edu

The longer time frames assume some hardship such as job loss. However, that can be a significant investment that, hopefully, would never be needed. (There are stories on the internet about folks who went in fully on long term food supplies and now have expired and rotting piles of food.)
theatlantic.com

Certainly it depends upon things like available space and finances.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:00:03pm

re: #168 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

At the risk of belaboring the obvious, the Trump tax bomb will not motivate MAGAts to switch their votes to Biden. It may get some of them to stay home or switch to third parties (which is the same thing as staying home). On a more positive note, it may well motivate a lot of non-voters to get their asses to the polls on, or before, election day.

Exactly. I remain convinced that the vast majority of these so-called “undecideds” are undecided not between Biden and trump, but between voting and staying home. In fact, I even called it earlier re the trump town hall - the English professor who politely told him to shut up and let her finish said that she’d been considering not voting at all, but after that debacle, decided to vote for Biden after all.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:00:07pm

re: #169 mmmirele

He’s currently in the custody of a hospital on a 72 hour hold (Baker Act). That’s a 5150 for denizens of California.

Oh fuck. I hope he can get the help he needs. At least he’s not stuck over a weekend like someone else I know.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:01:30pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:02:25pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:03:13pm

Another ACORN.

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:03:29pm

re: #158 Jay C

Not recalling offhand: why did Obama get socked with that huge tax bill? Was it a book deal (I think)?

He wrote/published his first book (“Dreams From My Father”) in the mid-90’s, didn’t even sell enough to cover the advance. The publisher put his contract in the freezer.

But after his 2004 Keynote at the DNC, sales exploded. Millions upon millions of copies of the reissue. Then his pre-campaign book, “The Audacity of Hope”, also sold a gazillion.

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ckkatz  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:06:08pm

Newest Beau of the 5th Column video. It’s on the upcoming debate.

TL;DR - There will be no fact checking during the debate. Trump will lie with impunity. There will not be any informative content. Not worth watching. (If being informed on Trump’s policies is your goal.)

Let’s talk about Trump, the debate, fiction, and poll numbers….

(btw - “5th Column” was invented by Franco (the Fascist leader) during the Spanish Civil War. He said that there were 4 military columns advancing towards Madrid. And that there was a Fifth Column of supporters inside the city.)

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b_sharp  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:06:40pm

re: #141 Sherlock Hound

If that’s the case then why bother reducing tax rates for the top 10%?

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:06:40pm

I think Turkey is huge. They tried to employ Flynn, but they busted Saudi for Kashoggi’s murder. They’re thick as thieves and I hope there will a reckoning on all sides of Kashoggi.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:06:41pm

re: #178 DodgerFan1988

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Another ACORN.

Don’t want to give these creeps the click. Is it the usual nothingburger/deceptively edited crap, or is there a sliver of anything genuine to be concerned about?

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:07:00pm

Because Green Party voters can implicate themselves in vote fraud and that’s “sticking it to the duopoly!”

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:07:25pm

re: #119 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m thinking of buying a digital camera for my trip to Vermont. I want a real camera, have used a canon Rebel and liked it. Will never do film again. Suggestions? New or used?

I have a Nikon A900. Small, but pretty full-featured. I like it. (Most of the pictures I’ve posted here lately are from my cell phone, and should not be considered as examples of its abilities.)

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:10:00pm

re: #184 Sherlock Hound

ETA: I wonder if that’s even real, or from St. Petersburg?

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:10:57pm

re: #183 Interesting Times

Don’t want to give these creeps the click. Is it the usual nothingburger/deceptively edited crap, or is there a sliver of anything genuine to be concerned about?

The Screw York Post is spreading that shit and you can count on FAUX and FIENDS bullshitting about it tomorrow.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:12:48pm

Well, I finish services and wanted to check back in.

Looks like nothing really happened while I was ZOOMing services, folks… 🥴

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:18:28pm

re: #161 BigPapa

We all know what today’s news will bring tomorrow: ‘Dems in Disarray’ stories by Cillizza and others.

Tomorrow’s Cillizza headline: “Yeah, Trump’s a corrupt, tax-cheating fraud. But Biden won’t give press interviews, so Trump is still set to win big!”

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:20:37pm

Oh dear, is this why the Russian bot factory is desperately pushing that project veritas pulp?

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:26:06pm

re: #183 Interesting Times

Don’t want to give these creeps the click. Is it the usual nothingburger/deceptively edited crap, or is there a sliver of anything genuine to be concerned about?

Well, the fact that this “scandal” has been “ uncovered” by Project Veritas ought to give us an indication of its relative credibility right there. I.e., zero.
Who did they send to “get the goods” on Ilhan Omar? Jacob Wohl in a turban?

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:27:53pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:28:38pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:31:53pm

OK, this made me laugh.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:31:55pm

hi

[reads last couple of threads before checking in]

Hm, the GOP isn’t having a good day, is it?

[goes off to make Trinidad Scorpion ramen noodle soup for breakfast, humming The Internationale]

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:35:50pm

re: #188 🌹UOJB!

Well, I finish services and wanted to check back in.

Looks like nothing really happened while I was ZOOMing services, folks… 🥴

How did everything go for you, Joe?

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:37:12pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:38:43pm

One thing to bear in mind when considering how this story is likely to play out is the overall context of the election. There is really no good scenario that can play out here for Trump, other than the (exceedingly slim) possibility that the release of this story somehow invokes sympathy from undecideds and fence-sitting Republicans to support him in the 11th hour. But even then, the overall momentum of the race would still leave Biden feeling confident.

All other outcomes range from horrid (bulk of undecideds breaking for Biden), bad (a trickle do so), or “meh” (overall momentum of the race remains stable). With Trump trailing nationally by roughly 10 points and states slipping away from him faster and faster, any outcome where he does not somehow manage to shift the momentum in his favor is a loss. He needs to change the dynamics of election and this story does not help him in any way.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:40:06pm

re: #197 Belafon

And people so desperate to disbelieve reality:

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:42:08pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

and that’s the biggest part of any of the stuff coming out about him, it prevents Trump from changing the course of the election.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:42:31pm

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How did everything go for you, Joe?

I had to ZOOM it fella. Even then idiots still made threats…

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:45:53pm

re: #200 Belafon

and that’s the biggest part of any of the stuff coming out about him, it prevents Trump from changing the course of the election.

If Trump can be stuck playing defense the next few weeks, that would be great.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:46:25pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

One thing to bear in mind when considering how this story is likely to play out is the overall context of the election. There is really no good scenario that can play out here, other than the (exceedingly slim) possibility that the release of this story somehow invokes sympathy from undecideds and fence-sitting Republicans to support him in the 11th hour. But even then, the overall momentum of the race would still leave Biden feeling confident.

All other outcomes range from horrid (bulk of undecideds breaking for Biden), bad (a trickle do so), or “meh” (overall momentum of the race remains stable). With Trump trailing nationally by roughly 10 points and states slipping away from him faster and faster, any outcome where he does not somehow manage to shift the momentum in his favor is a loss. He needs to change the dynamics of election and this story does not help him in any way.

The timing is abysmal for him.

48 hours before the debate. And now this will be THE topic.

He makes mistakes when he’s flustered, and NOTHING flusters him more than being called out as a fake billionaire. The Times has the receipts now. There’s way too much detail in that amazing story… and apparently more yet to drop.

So he’ll either fart out a series of incriminating tweets in the morning, or he’ll stay eerily silent and thus confirm the story with his silence.

All Biden has to do Tuesday is hand him just enough rope and he’ll do the rest himself.

(Could the Barrett nomination get dragged down in the undertow? It’s unlikely, but not impossible.)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:48:53pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:49:05pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:49:59pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:52:44pm

Another scenario I’m gaming out…

Republicans have no more use for Trump after the latest Federalist Society Stooge is seated on the court.

GOP decides now is the time to cut Trump loose and concentrate on holding the Senate. So you see a doubling down of the Lincoln Project continuing to wound Trump.

Republicans will pull out all the stops to hold 51 Senate seats to block everything Biden does. You’ll see the GOP toss Collins, Gardner and McSally overboard and Adelson will pour millions in to hold the rest of the seats and go full to take out Peters and Jones.

Their hope is that they hold the Senate, keep the filibuster and hamstring Biden every step of the way.

However if the 6-3 Court kills Roe and the ACA trouble will be a brewing for them in 2022 but they do not care about that right now.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:54:07pm

The MAGAts will call him a “genius” for avoiding taxes, yet despite avoiding tens of millions in taxes he’s deep in debt, could get slapped with a $100m bill from the IRS for accepting $72.9m in “refunds,” and he’s facing foreclosure from his foreign creditors in the next 4 years.

And then there’s this story:

According to the report, “creditors threatened to force him into personal bankruptcy, and his first wife, Ivana, wanted ‘a billion dollars in a divorce settlement,” which led the future president to send “an accountant and a lawyer to see his father, Fred Trump Sr., who was told he needed to immediately sign a document changing the will according to his son’s wishes, according to depositions from family members.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:54:24pm
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:55:19pm

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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FATS DOMINO - AIN’T THAT A SHAME 1955

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ckkatz  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:56:18pm

re: #7 Dave In Austin

He always leaves an impression.

Although Jimmy mumbles sometime.

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Just got a chance to watch the gun shooting video. Well, that was different.

Dang, he has an eclectic gun collection. And he ensured that there are no worries about zombie goya bean cans now.

Thanks for posting!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2020 • 9:58:18pm

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Melania is not stupid, (she has money tucked away somewhere).

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:00:29pm

re: #200 Belafon

and that’s the biggest part of any of the stuff coming out about him, it prevents Trump from changing the course of the election.

True this, IMO: if the polling trends keep up at their present rate, the Trump/GOP’s best-case -scenario is a narrow loss, with only a few Senate seats flipped. The *best* case. Their only real hope is to try to ratchet up the apocalyptic hysteria-level to turn out the MAGAts in whatever “swing” states they can, and hope their post-election ratfucking can -maybe- sway a few EVs.
Not a rosy scenario.
Good!

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Jack Burton  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:02:49pm

re: #184 Sherlock Hound

“Joined February 2020”

Right…

Берни Бро

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:07:54pm

re: #207 🌹UOJB!

Peters isn’t in much danger, at least not in recent polling. Even if they get Jones, it’s not just Collins and McSally and Gardner who are dead meat. It’s also Thom Tillis. And very possibly Dan Sullivan.

And if Trump gets backed over, where does that leave his ass barnacle Lindsey Graham? There’s no way he can salvage himself at Trump’s expense now without becoming even more of a joke.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:10:25pm

I can’t begin to imagine how deep the level of shit looks for Ivana’s brood right now. Tiffany can plead ignorance as they’ve basically locked her out, and Barron was young enough for the majority of this shitshow that any knowledge he might have can’t be held against him. But for the three eldest, there’s no light at the end of the tunnel. Daddy’s proclivities and his total lack of aptitude for business has not only left the family coffers crammed with IOUs that the creditors are likely waiting to call in, but the IRS is now going to be knocking on their door for years to come. Even if he died today, they’d spend years to come in and out of bankruptcy courts, arguing with those creditors about how much of his debts fall upon them and the company they inherited. What’s worse is that he’s likely used most or all of the company’s assets as collateral to secure those loans, so they can’t even liquidate them in order to pay those debts.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:13:22pm

I hope he doesn’t fall out of a hospital window

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:14:50pm

re: #212 I Would Prefer Not To

Melania is not stupid, (she has money tucked away somewhere).

If she’s smart - or has some smart advisers in her vicinity - she’d ask for property.

So I wake up here in Europe and see that NY Times has run a story with what most of us here have long suspected - that Trump is what an ex-gf of mine would’ve called “ghetto rich” (that’s the polite term, BTW), simply put, living off credit to maintain the illusion that they’re wealthy.

It’s too early in the day to be overdosing on schadenfreude….but here we are.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:15:18pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:15:58pm

re: #215 i(m)p(each)sos

Also… even the most rushed timetable for a Barrett confirmation wouldn’t have her seated until maybe - MAYBE - the third week of October.

Even allowing for a higher number of R voters on election day, that’s an infintesimally small window of time for a “throw Trump overboard to save the Senate” pivot, especially if you’re depending on women to pull you over the finish line and those women aren’t feeling the Barrett love.

The polling on cramming the nomination through is still brutal, and the backfire is still against the GOP Senate as much as it is against Trump.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:16:18pm

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

If she’s smart - or has some smart advisers in her vicinity - she’d ask for property.

So I wake up here in Europe and see that NY Times has run a story with what most of us here have long suspected - that Trump is what an ex-gf of mine would’ve called “ghetto rich” (that’s the polite term, BTW), simply put, living off credit to maintain the illusion that they’re wealthy.

It’s too early in the day to be overdosing on schadenfreude….but here we are.

Trump is everything that his fanbase blamed for the Great Recession: A guy living well above his means, taking out more credit than he can hope to pay back, and relying upon anything he can beg/borrow/steal to keep up with the interest payments.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:23:19pm

One more thought before it’s time for me to go to bed (and for Anymouse to wake up?)…

I don’t hold out a lot of hope that Barrett, if confirmed, will be at all surprising on the bench.

But it’s a non-zero number. She’s very young and she’s only been a judge for three years.

Once she has a lifetime seat, she owes nothing to anybody. And 30 or more years is a long time. Could she develop a collegial relationship with Sotomayor and Kagan? I’ll bet it’s more likely than with Kavanaugh and Gorsuch.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:24:15pm

re: #221 Targetpractice

Trump is everything that his fanbase blamed for the Great Recession: A guy living well above his means, taking out more credit than he can hope to pay back, and relying upon anything he can beg/borrow/steal to keep up with the interest payments.

Yep. And I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find out that Trump has used his real-estate holdings as collateral for all those loans he’s taken out. And if he can’t pay those loans back, he - and his kids - are gonna be left with nothing.

If there’s anyone I feel sorry for in this….it’s Barron. Barron’s grandfather built up a property empire (not ethically, mind you), his father seems to have pissed it all away and Barron’s left holding the bag.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:24:56pm

re: #216 Charles Johnson

I could be wrong but I have a sick feeling this NY Times “bombshell” isn’t going to move anybody to vote differently. Maybe I have PTSD, who knows at this point. But I’ll be surprised if means much. Hate to sound jaded but I don’t think Trump’s voters give a shit and may even admire him for this.

I’m going to have to agree.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:28:12pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

It’s not going to move the diehards. But just as with thinking people and Adlai Stevenson in 1952, there aren’t enough diehards to win him the election this time.

All it needs to do is pull more of the remaining undecideds and weak Trump voters away, and I think it will… especially if it provokes him into making some juicy unforced errors, especially in the debate Tuesday.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:28:23pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:29:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:33:02pm

re: #221 Targetpractice

Trump is everything that his fanbase blamed for the Great Recession: A guy living well above his means, taking out more credit than he can hope to pay back, and relying upon anything he can beg/borrow/steal to keep up with the interest payments.

The core 27% of crazies didn’t vote for him because he’s allegedly rich, a good business person, or lives a glamour lifestyle.

They voted for him because he’s a bigot. That’s it.

Cue the emergency “Cletus Safaris” from the main media outlets to interview Trump supporters on why they still support Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:34:44pm

Top breaking news here:

Runners brave winds for 9th annual race

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:35:14pm

A friend just mentioned Michael Caputo who went out on medical leave after seemingly losing his shit just days ago. And in the last week, 3 major insiders speaking to his unfiitness.

We all saw this coming and predicted it. But it’s still surprising to actually see it happen and contend with our predictions coming through. The entire month of October is going to be one motha of October Surprises.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:38:35pm

Spotted in St. Helens, Oregon:

found on Portland subreddit, artist Mitch O’Connell
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:41:54pm

LOL (3:30)

Doc Vader on Mask Shaming

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:42:00pm

Six degrees time, all: I used to hang out with James M in Tucson in the early 80’s, I played in a bluegrass band with his girlfriend, but he used to come jam with us and even played with us at the Mountaire Lounge on Mount Lemmon.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:43:39pm

And then we have Justice Kennedy retiring with little warning, Kavanaugh’s mysterious disappearing debts right before his hearings, and Kennedys son at Deutshe Bank being Biz Bros with Kushner. This whole affair has never been reviewed.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:47:12pm
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:47:35pm

re: #234 BigPapa

And then we have Justice Kennedy retiring with little warning, Kavanaugh’s mysterious disappearing debts right before his hearings, and Kennedys son at Deutshe Bank being Biz Bros with Kushner. This whole affair has never been reviewed.

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If the Democrats can take back the Senate, I’d love to see the Judiciary Committee do a proper and thorough investigation into Kavanaugh’s financial situation and his amazing disappearing debts. That whole thing stinks to high heaven.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:51:09pm

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

If the Democrats can take back the Senate, I’d love to see the Judiciary Committee do a proper and thorough investigation into Kavanaugh’s financial situation and his amazing disappearing debts. That whole thing stinks to high heaven.

He could be impeached and the court re-tooled.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:51:18pm

re: #178 DodgerFan1988

ballot harvesting

has a completely nice ring to it - and expect to hear a heck of a lot more about it in coming weeks

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:57:16pm
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CBGB  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:58:14pm

I feel like this Trump guy might not be on the up and up.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 10:58:31pm

I wonder what impact this had on Parscale’s mental health episode today:
Non-Partisan Watchdog Accuses Trump Campaign Of ‘Laundering’ $170 Million

Brad was a website designer, not a financial wizard good at campaign finance. Or good at cheating at campaign finance. But I could be wrong.

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:01:27pm

re: #240 CBGB

I feel like this Trump guy might not be on the up and up.

Seems… dodgy.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:14:04pm
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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:15:19pm

Michael Caputo
Jerry Fallwell Jr
Brad Parscale

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:23:06pm

re: #243 Dread Pirate Ron

This appears over and over again from different “users” everytime Dwayne Johnson’s name or The Rock appears in a tweet. Sometimes from the same “user” when someone engages.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:24:55pm

Stormy Daniels is trending again on Twitter after the tax revelations today by the New York Times

twitter.com

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CBGB  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:27:12pm

re: #242 BigPapa

Can’t quite put my finger on it.

Here’s some jazz.

Crazy New Jazz Music - Fabricio Pereira, Erik Frandsen & Oliver Prehn

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:33:20pm

2020

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:34:14pm

I can honestly say I’ve never been so invested in a celebrity or their viewpoints that their voicing an opinion contradictory to my own has led me to immediately destroy anything I owned that was connected to them.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:38:31pm

Just thinking about that whole Brad Parscale incident (and I do hope he gets some kind of help, because yikes) but I really wonder if maybe he got a target letter (the Feds typically inform people that they are about to be indicted, unless it’s a case where they’re worried about destruction of evidence or violence - IIRC, it’s sort of a rule of thumb in white-collar criminal investigations) and that’s what triggered his breakdown.

We’ll likely find out in the next couple of weeks. And BTW, Parscale is still a “senior campaign adviser” to Trump.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:41:59pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:42:14pm

re: #248 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

2020

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They’re building it to fight Godzilla at the 2020 endgame.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:46:25pm

Regional news, more covidiots:

At least 10 attendees of a Sept. 11 event at the Lincoln Eagles Club contracted coronavirus, Lincoln-Lancaster County Health Department officials said in a news release Thursday.

The outbreak prompted health officials to publicize the cluster of cases stemming from the event at 500 W. Industrial Lake Drive that drew 75 people and included dancing and little mask wearing, the release said.

The club’s Facebook page advertised the gathering as a “9/11 Never Forget” event featuring a local country music band.

One of the attendees who contracted COVID-19 has been hospitalized, the release said.

Many of the attendees could be at greater risk of severe illness, Scott Holmes of the Health Department said in a news release.

Event attendees included people who live outside the county, and everyone who went to the event should contact the Health Department Communicable Disease Program immediately for guidance on how to get tested and further ways to protect themselves and others.

(more)

10 attendees at event at Lincoln Eagles Club got COVID-19, officials say (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:48:09pm

Sure, nothing peculiar about this

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:57:00pm

re: #254 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Sure, nothing peculiar about this

Conservatives still don’t get it.

a) Police, when they abuse their authority, hurt all of society.
b) Pray for his family if you want. Then act (even the Bible tells you to do that). Prayers would not have been needed if it wasn’t first a needless shooting.

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PrairieQueen  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:59:10pm

re: #212 I Would Prefer Not To

I so, so do not care about how Melania comes out of this. Of all the men in the world, she picked that douchebag. If it turns out rough - which it won’t - that train was coming since Day One. He didn’t change or have a secret life, and his past was laid bare for all to see from the beginning. She chose to ride that bitch out to the end. Let the whole lot of them go down in flames.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 27, 2020 • 11:59:12pm

Time for me to go to bed, but I’ve been wondering what this news will do to the Barrett confirmation. There’s no telling right now how much this will affect DT’s (former) supporters — we don’t know how large his irreducible base is, but he’s already losing voters from groups that seemed tight (e.g. white female evangelicals). How many people will stay home instead of voting — and that means down-ticket races, like the Senate.

I’ve thought all along that the strategy at the hearings is to make it crystal clear what the repugs are voting for by voting for her, and holding it against the people who do vote for her or express support (if they get to an early vote, it will be right on the brink of the election, so the memory should be fresh).

Since we’ll be no more able to stop the confirmation (if they do confirm her) after the election than we are before), it’s in our interest to have it early, to peel off more weak-DT supporters. And with his getting weaker by the hour, we just might get four repugs to vote against her.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:06:40am

re: #254 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Sure, nothing peculiar about this

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Civil rights investigation into the death of a white kid, what a surprise. (But this needs to be publicized nonetheless. It doesn’t say much for us if it takes white victims to arouse the white public to support police reform — but I’ll take it. And after all, it won’t be the first time. Two of the three freedom summer murder victims were white. Cue outrage.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:23:34am

(20:14, goes to Logicked, a religion counter-apologist, who notes the Mandela Effect nonsense is actually based in religion)

Mandela Effect 1: Sezchuan Fruit Luips

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:29:12am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:31:32am

.

Thomas Dunhill; In Rural England - Meadow Fairies.

..

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ckkatz  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:32:33am

re: #173 ckkatz

Speaking of Supply Chain issues, Amazon just announced that its ‘Prime Days’ will be October 13 and 14. (Instead of the usual July time frame.)

I must admit that my enthusiasm to spend money right now is quite low.

Amazon Prime Day 2020: The Best Deals to Expect
nytimes.com

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sagehen  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:32:52am

re: #249 Targetpractice

I can honestly say I’ve never been so invested in a celebrity or their viewpoints that their voicing an opinion contradictory to my own has led me to immediately destroy anything I owned that was connected to them.

I’ve never felt that way about an actor or athlete… but if Springsteen or Chuck D or Lin-Manuel were to suddenly endorse my favorite candidate’s opponent, I’d have a hard time with it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:33:09am

To be fair, I didn’t pay anything, and haven’t for many years. On the other hand, I don’t own a bunch of buildings and golf courses.

I would love to see a news photo of crime tape around Trump Tower New York.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:36:45am
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sagehen  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:36:56am

re: #258 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Civil rights investigation into the death of a white kid, what a surprise. (But this needs to be publicized nonetheless. It doesn’t say much for us if it takes white victims to arouse the white public to support police reform — but I’ll take it. And after all, it won’t be the first time. Two of the three freedom summer murder victims were white. Cue outrage.)

Do Jews count as white? I suppose it depends who you ask…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:43:42am

re: #266 sagehen

Do Jews count as white? I suppose it depends who you ask…

When needed for votes or power. Same as Slavs.

Speaking of hypocrisy, one of the principal tools in the conservative tool box, there’s this hypocrite.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:50:11am

re: #266 sagehen

Do Jews count as white? I suppose it depends who you ask…

Whiteness expands and contracts to suit the needs of the people at the very top.

It’s not even consistent moment to moment, because individuals and small groups get kicked out when they become inconvenient.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 12:57:05am

This is a bunch of crap.

KENOSHA, Wis. (AP) — The Kenosha police officer who shot Jacob Blake in the back seven times last month told investigators he thought Blake was trying to abduct one of his own children and that he opened fire because Blake started turning toward the officer while holding a knife, the officer’s lawyer contends.

Brendan Matthews, the attorney for Officer Rusten Sheskey and the Kenosha police union, told CNN that when Sheskey arrived at the scene on Aug. 23 in response to a call from a woman who said Blake was at her home and shouldn’t be there, he heard a woman say, “He’s got my kid. He’s got my keys.”

Sheskey saw Blake put a child in the SUV as he arrived, but he didn’t know that two other children were also in the back seat, Matthews said. He said Sheskey told investigators he opened fire because Blake “held a knife in his hand and twisted his body toward” the officer, and that he didn’t stop until he determined Blake “no longer posed an imminent threat.”

Matthews said if Sheskey had allowed Blake to leave and something happened to the child, “the question would have been ‘Why didn’t you do something?’”

(more)

Lawyer says officer thought Blake was trying to kidnap child (NBC Scottsbluff)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 1:16:00am
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Sherlock Hound  Sep 28, 2020 • 1:17:43am

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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To be fair, I didn’t pay anything, and haven’t for many years. On the other hand, I don’t own a bunch of buildings and golf courses.

I would love to see a news photo of crime tape around Trump Tower New York.

Wingnuts love to tell us that we don’t deserve the vote or any other government services because we don’t pay taxes, “you don’t have skin in the game”.

The irony is noted, and also brutal.
“Muh Taxpayah Munney!”, indeed.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 28, 2020 • 1:20:58am

re: #266 sagehen

Do Jews count as white? I suppose it depends who you ask…

They count, and are yet uncountable. Like the phrase that the Jews are everywhere and nowhere, insiders and outsiders at the same time.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 28, 2020 • 1:31:45am
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ericblair  Sep 28, 2020 • 1:39:03am

re: #258 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Civil rights investigation into the death of a white kid, what a surprise. (But this needs to be publicized nonetheless. It doesn’t say much for us if it takes white victims to arouse the white public to support police reform — but I’ll take it. And after all, it won’t be the first time. Two of the three freedom summer murder victims were white. Cue outrage.)

He and his family deserve justice too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 1:58:19am

re: #271 Sherlock Hound

Wingnuts love to tell us that we don’t deserve the vote or any other government services because we don’t pay taxes, “you don’t have skin in the game”.

The irony is noted, and also brutal.
“Muh Taxpayah Munney!”, indeed.

My skin was my military service, which no Trump has ever performed. And oh, I paid taxes on my military salary.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2020 • 2:00:34am

re: #228 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The core 27% of crazies didn’t vote for him because he’s allegedly rich, a good business person, or lives a glamour lifestyle.

They voted for him because he’s a bigot. That’s it.

Cue the emergency “Cletus Safaris” from the main media outlets to interview Trump supporters on why they still support Trump.

One of the things that MAGAts and Berners alike agreed upon in 2016 was that Trump was “incorruptible” or at least would be harder to fall under the sway of special interests because (according to them) his personal wealth meant he could fund his own campaign and wouldn’t need campaign donations from the RNC or from “private interests.” Which meant he was totally different from Hillary, who (according to her critics) was owned by virtually everybody but Bill.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 2:24:45am

Landmark building at Buddhist retreat survives Cameron Peak fire (Denver Post)

Firefighters protected the landmark Great Stupa at a Buddhist retreat near Red Feather Lakes from the Cameron Peak fire Saturday night as the blaze moved through the area, driven by gusty winds and dry vegetation.

Firefighters used hoses, sprinklers and pumps to protect the distinct structure at Shambhala Mountain Center, said Lindsey Lewis, a fire information officer. Fire mitigation in the area had been done ahead of the fire’s approach, she added.

The complex did lose some buildings around the edges, Shambhala Mountain Center executive director Michael Gayner said Sunday, but that much of the core of the complex appears to have survived.

(more)

The Cameron Peak Fire north of Denver in the Roosevelt National Forest has burnt 124,000 acres. It is 21% contained.
inciweb.nwcg.gov

Air quality is still good here (21) due to rain and little wind.
airnow.gov

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2020 • 2:34:14am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is a bunch of crap.

(more)

Lawyer says officer thought Blake was trying to kidnap child (NBC Scottsbluff)

The story keeps getting embellished with each telling. First it was the presence of a knife, now it’s “he had the knife in his hand and looked like he was stealing a kid!” The next telling will include how he hulked out so that he was standing 7’ tall and had the strength of a hundred men.

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Jack Burton  Sep 28, 2020 • 2:35:03am

re: #276 Targetpractice

One of the things that MAGAts and Berners alike agreed upon in 2016 was that Trump was “incorruptible” or at least would be harder to fall under the sway of special interests because (according to them) his personal wealth meant he could fund his own campaign and wouldn’t need campaign donations from the RNC or from “private interests.” Which meant he was totally different from Hillary, who (according to her critics) was owned by virtually everybody but Bill.

That aged well.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 28, 2020 • 2:42:05am

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Victor Feldman - Just Do It!

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 2:44:19am

so is donald trump the first presidential candidate to have a recent campaign manager attempt suicide?

if not, he’s def the first one to have this happen on the same day his long hidden tax returns are leaked

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2020 • 2:48:39am

re: #278 Targetpractice

The story keeps getting embellished with each telling. First it was the presence of a knife, now it’s “he had the knife in his hand and looked like he was stealing a kid!” The next telling will include how he hulked out so that he was standing 7’ tall and had the strength of a hundred men.

Exclusive snippet from officer bodycam footage:

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 2:50:24am

re: #18 jaunte

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which democrats are these tim?
name names.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 2:59:44am

re: #67 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I figured it out, guys. I figured out why it feels so surreal right now. It’s impossible to believe in Fucking Hell 2020 that some good news has actually occurred. Trump’s Taxes are real, yes precious, and for once, we allow ourselves to smile. Still righteously outraged, but we know without a doubt that tomorrow’s morning dump is going to be an absolute banger.

“I don’t know whether to spit, smile, or swallow” — dragline

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:04:25am

Morning Lizardim from the cold and cloudy wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:05:02am

re: #283 dangerman

which democrats are these tim?
name names.

It’s the same as always as far as “all Demonrats” are evil crowds. I imagine there are some no-name Democratic voters who have said awful things on social media, so that means all Democrats all the way up to Joe Biden and even into the past as far back as Andrew Jackson must have said the same things.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:05:58am

Extremely local news breaking. My wife just made an outstanding cranberry, pecan, and walnut coffee cake. I’m not sharing with y’all.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:08:46am

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s the same as always as far as “all Demonrats” are evil crowds. I imagine there are some no-name Democratic voters who have said awful things on social media, so that means all Democrats all the way up to Joe Biden and even into the past as far back as Andrew Jackson must have said the same things.

“There’s some guy named Generic Democrat, he’s the worst of ‘em all.”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:09:32am

re: #285 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim from the cold and cloudy wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk?

The days grow short, for the garden and for the Trumps.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:11:38am
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garzooma  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:12:50am

re: #150 BeachDem

Wonder who dropped the dime (wonder if Mary Trump had anything to do with it)

Maybe someone connected to one of his creditors? Lenders usually want to see tax returns.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:14:08am

Hot take, modified from a post I saw on Fark: Jesus paid more in taxes than Donald J. Trump.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:16:41am

re: #285 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim from the cold and cloudy wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk?

Things be damp. Tis that wonderful time of the year when the changing of the seasons means dihydrogen monoxide droplets fall from the sky without much warning or care of how frakking difficult it is to mow wet grass.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:19:05am

re: #285 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim from the cold and cloudy wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk?

It’s cold here (35°F and dark). No smoke for a change.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:24:47am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:29:58am

If you’re looking for the IRS to go after Trump, the commissioner is a conservative first and a tax collector second. It will take the states to go after the Trumps under state law.

Emoluments? What are those?

IRS Chief Makes More Than $100,000 Per Year Off Trump Property, Documents Show (Forbes, September 1, 2020)

The lede:

The commissioner of the IRS—who is responsible for releasing President Trump’s tax returns to Congress—owns two rental properties at the Trump International Waikiki that he profits off of while in office, according to new documents obtained by a watchdog group in Washington, raising new questions about his withholding of Trump’s tax returns as the president goes to court to keep them hidden.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:34:52am

re: #290 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

IIRC, Snipes tried to settle with the IRS for something not far off from a million bucks.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:35:45am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

IIRC, Snipes tried to settle with the IRS for something not far off from a million bucks.

He still went to jail.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:37:18am

re: #298 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He still went to jail.

Yeah, exactly. I have little doubt that Trump (and his kids, too) are probably getting increasingly concerned about the possibility that they might be looking at a stint in the slammer if it’s decided to make an example out of them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:46:54am

re: #296 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If you’re looking for the IRS to go after Trump, the commissioner is a conservative first and a tax collector second. It will take the states to go after the Trumps under state law.

Emoluments? What are those?

IRS Chief Makes More Than $100,000 Per Year Off Trump Property, Documents Show (Forbes, September 1, 2020)

The lede:

I, for one, was only halfheartedly expecting the IRS to actually pursue him. More of a pipe dream, I suppose - not knowing the commissioner’s political leanings or direct ties to Trump, just on the general principle that Trump gets away with literally everything. My only expectation with the revelation of his tax fraud is that SOMETHING happens - he tanks with 25% of the popular vote, the audit winds up getting resolved against him and he owes his entire net worth to the IRS, SDNY arrests him in the afternoon on 1/20/21.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:49:27am

re: #300 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I, for one, was only halfheartedly expecting the IRS to actually pursue him. More of a pipe dream, I suppose - not knowing the commissioner’s political leanings or direct ties to Trump, just on the general principle that Trump gets away with literally everything. My only expectation with the revelation of his tax fraud is that SOMETHING happens - he tanks with 25% of the popular vote, the audit winds up getting resolved against him and he owes his entire net worth to the IRS, SDNY arrests him in the afternoon on 1/20/21.

I imagine New York Attorney General Letitia James would be interested.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2020 • 3:56:33am

re: #300 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I, for one, was only halfheartedly expecting the IRS to actually pursue him. More of a pipe dream, I suppose - not knowing the commissioner’s political leanings or direct ties to Trump, just on the general principle that Trump gets away with literally everything. My only expectation with the revelation of his tax fraud is that SOMETHING happens - he tanks with 25% of the popular vote, the audit winds up getting resolved against him and he owes his entire net worth to the IRS, SDNY arrests him in the afternoon on 1/20/21.

I think his absolute floor is 30%; I’d be greatly surprised if he dipped below that. But even if he only got 30% of the popular vote, it’d still be an ass-whuppin’ of epic proportions.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 4:05:13am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

I think his absolute floor is 30%; I’d be greatly surprised if he dipped below that. But even if he only got 30% of the popular vote, it’d still be an ass-whuppin’ of epic proportions.

270towin.com

Currently, they have Biden at 278 and Trump at 169, with 91 electoral votes as toss-up.

It would be something to see that 278 move further into the blue after more polling.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 4:08:54am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

I think his absolute floor is 30%; I’d be greatly surprised if he dipped below that. But even if he only got 30% of the popular vote, it’d still be an ass-whuppin’ of epic proportions.

I mean, out of the entire list I posted, the most likely one is the last one. To be realistic, I don’t expect them to arrest him literally on Inauguration Day, as much as it would be the capstone to an amazing celebration.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2020 • 4:10:04am

re: #303 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

270towin.com

Currently, they have Biden at 278 and Trump at 169, with 91 electoral votes as toss-up.

It would be something to see that 278 move further into the blue after more polling.

I’ll be interested to see what happens after the debate. If Trump gets his ass handed to him, things might start moving further in Biden’s direction. And if Trump’s debate performance is risible enough, it might serve to discourage and demoralize Republicans - which could have consequences on downballot races.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2020 • 4:10:55am

re: #304 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mean, out of the entire list I posted, the most likely one is the last one. To be realistic, I don’t expect them to arrest him literally on Inauguration Day, as much as it would be the capstone to an amazing celebration.

If Trump were arrested on live TV, it’d be one of the most re-watched and re-played moments in television history.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 4:25:21am

re: #254 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Sure, nothing peculiar about this

Federal authorities have opened a civil rights investigation into the fatal police shooting of a Kansas teenager who was backing out of the family’s garage when an officer — responding to a call for a wellness check — fired 13 times.

It is not just about black or white or blue lives mattering, it is about police using excessive force with little concern for consequences.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2020 • 4:40:58am

re: #217 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

But he was taken alive. It pays to be White.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 4:48:59am

re: #299 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, exactly. I have little doubt that Trump (and his kids, too) are probably getting increasingly concerned about the possibility that they might be looking at a stint in the slammer if it’s decided to make an example out of them.

which means there is nothing Trump will not stoop to in order to try and preserve executive immunity…

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William Lewis  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:00:06am

re: #269 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This is a bunch of crap.

(more)

Lawyer says officer thought Blake was trying to kidnap child (NBC Scottsbluff)

Not sure why they’re bothering with this lie. It’s not like the pig was ever going to be held accountable in the first place.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:00:24am

Well, so much for the idea of Trump picking Ivanka as his VP being a joke…

According to the report made the proposal to a collection of his campaign advisers in June of 2016, saying, “I think it should be Ivanka. What about Ivanka as my VP?”

He then reportedly added, “She’s bright, she’s smart, she’s beautiful, and the people would love her!”

According to the Post, the book describes, “Trump was so taken with the concept of his elder daughter as his vice president — and so cool to other options, including his eventual selection, then-Indiana Gov. Mike Pence — that his team polled the idea twice, according to Gates.”

“It was Ivanka Trump who finally ended the conversation, Gates writes, going to her father to tell him it wasn’t a good idea,” the report continues. “Trump eventually came around and selected Pence, after the governor won him over by delivering a ‘vicious and extended monologue’ about Bill and Hillary Clinton at a get-to-know-you breakfast later that summer, according to Gates’s account.”

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Teukka  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:00:51am

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:02:40am

re: #310 William Lewis

Not sure why they’re bothering with this lie. It’s not like the pig was ever going to be held accountable in the first place.

It’s the usual bit we see in these cases: The initial BS doesn’t pass the smell test, so they keep embellishing the story with new “facts.” They first tried to say Blake was “threatening,” but he was shot repeatedly in the back as he was trying to get back into his car. Then they said he had a knife, but the report said it was found inside the car and not on him. So now they’re trying to say that they had “no choice” but to stop him because “a kid’s life might be in danger!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:09:09am

re: #313 Targetpractice

It’s the usual bit we see in these cases: The initial BS doesn’t pass the smell test, so they keep embellishing the story with new “facts.” They first tried to say Blake was “threatening,” but he was shot repeatedly in the back as he was trying to get back into his car. Then they said he had a knife, but the report said it was found inside the car and not on him. So now they’re trying to say that they had “no choice” but to stop him because “a kid’s life might be in danger!”

Because black men only kidnap and rape young children, they do not raise them.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:15:45am

“appointed by trump’ does not always get them what they want

Donald Trump suffered another blow on Sunday as a federal judge hit the pause button on the former Celebrity Apprentice host ban on the Chinese created widely successful video app.
…
Appointed by Trump three years ago to the bench in the District of Columbia, Judge Nichols offered no reason for granting TikTok’s motion. The ruling follows an often-fiery hearing on the matter this morning.

also note: “donald trump suffered” not the trump admin, etc

deadline

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:17:02am

Flashback Monday.
Reid: “Word is out” Romney hasn’t paid taxes in 10 years

Reid: “Word is out” Romney hasn’t paid taxes in 10 years

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:30:35am

re: #198 Targetpractice

One thing to bear in mind when considering how this story is likely to play out is the overall context of the election. There is really no good scenario that can play out here for Trump, other than the (exceedingly slim) possibility that the release of this story somehow invokes sympathy from undecideds and fence-sitting Republicans to support him in the 11th hour. But even then, the overall momentum of the race would still leave Biden feeling confident.

All other outcomes range from horrid (bulk of undecideds breaking for Biden), bad (a trickle do so), or “meh” (overall momentum of the race remains stable). With Trump trailing nationally by roughly 10 points and states slipping away from him faster and faster, any outcome where he does not somehow manage to shift the momentum in his favor is a loss. He needs to change the dynamics of election and this story does not help him in any way.

imo the second graph on this page is one to watch

i prefer electoral-vote.com’s poll modeling overall. it’s data, dispassionately averaged and doesn’t include too much ‘non-objective’ stuff, as 538 does.

anyway biden’s lead ignoring statistically tied states was over 300 and has dropped close to 270

if it starts to rise again…

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:33:13am

re: #206 Ace-o-aces

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there are basically only two ways to live as he does and pay no taxes on all that purported business revenue

- lie
- cheat

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:35:28am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

I think his absolute floor is 30%; I’d be greatly surprised if he dipped below that. But even if he only got 30% of the popular vote, it’d still be an ass-whuppin’ of epic proportions.

Let’s split the difference between 25 and 30 and call it the 27% crasification factor.

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jeffreyw  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:54:01am

Good morning!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:55:46am

re: #320 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

The cleanup crew is up early, I see.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 28, 2020 • 5:56:46am

Trump owes over $1.1 billion in debt, much of it coming due in the next few years.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:04:37am

re: #322 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If Trump loses this November, he’s gonna try to fleece as much as he can. Hell, he’ll probably try to steal the Resolute Desk - better go through the moving vans with a fine tooth comb when he and his family leaves.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:14:10am

re: #323 Dr Lizardo

If Trump loses this November, he’s gonna try to fleece as much as he can. Hell, he’ll probably try to steal the Resolute Desk - better go through the moving vans with a fine tooth comb when he and his family leaves.

I’d get every agency that can to independently go through the entire building looking for bugs

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:23:02am

re: #324 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

I’d get every agency that can to independently go through the entire building looking for bugs

Bedbugs as well as transmitters.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:25:42am

Lubbock. A contact tells me there were about a hundred vehicles involved, almost all pickups. Radio station owner/yakker Wade Wilkes was a major particpant and is now boasting that they “managed to clog the 8th largest loop in the country.”
Maybe this provides a clue to their plans for voter suppression on election day.

Vehicles parade around Loop 289 in support of President Trump

They were at least safe from sinking, though one jackass was towing a boat with his monstrous pickup, both festooned with flapping Trump banners.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:26:22am

re: #326 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Wonder how many of them evade their taxes on a regular basis.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:27:08am

re: #326 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Lubbock. A contact tells me there were about a hundred vehicles involved, almost all pickups. Radio station owner/yakker Wade Wilkes was a major particpant and is now boasting that they “managed to clog the 8th largest loop in the country.”
Maybe this provides a clue to their plans for voter suppression on election day.

Vehicles parade around Loop 289 in support of President Trump

They were at least safe from sinking, though one jackass was towing a boat with his monstrous pickup, both festooned with flapping Trump banners.

I’m not sure how that would work. In an area of primarily Trump voters, blocking traffic would only block them. If they went to an area of primarily Biden voters, they can’t vote themselves.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:30:02am
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garzooma  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:31:19am

re: #322 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump owes over $1.1 billion in debt, much of it coming due in the next few years.

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Does anyone know if Trump had to hand over a copy of his tax returns for each of these loans?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:32:21am

The Omaha World-Herald reporting on a piece published in the New England Journal of Medicine:

Masks as vaccine? While still theory, it’s one more reason to mask up

TL;DR: Masks can provide variolation (inoculation), the method of immunisation used before vaccines were invented.

With the pandemic dragging on and a safe, effective vaccine yet to come, a pair of California researchers recently proposed that face masks could serve as a kind of substitute for the shots until they become available.

By blocking most virus particles, the researchers wrote in a commentary in the New England Journal of Medicine, masks may cut the viral dose a person takes in. That, in turn, could reduce the severity of the illness people experience if they do become infected.

And if some particles do get through the mask, the exposure could provoke an immune response that could protect the person the next time around.

In the bigger picture, the researchers note, masks could even increase the proportion of symptomless or mild illnesses, which could take the heat off health systems that have strained to care for pandemic patients.

Two Nebraska physicians say the theory, which remains unproved, is intriguing and, even if never fully proved, provides additional support for mask wearing.

(more)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:32:53am

re: #330 garzooma

Does anyone know if Trump had to hand over a copy of his tax returns for each of these loans?

My question is, who the hell does he bank with that he can keep getting loans with the amount of outstanding debt he has? I don’t care how much you have in assets, somewhere along the line someone must have said, “This seems awfully suspicious, I’m not sure we should loan money to someone who already owes this much.”

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:38:10am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Federal authorities have opened a civil rights investigation into the fatal police shooting of a Kansas teenager who was backing out of the family’s garage when an officer — responding to a call for a wellness check — fired 13 times.

It is not just about black or white or blue lives mattering, it is about police using excessive force with little concern for consequences.

…or without accurately assessing the circumstances and actual threats and risks

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:38:29am

re: #331 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That just seems like the contrapositive to the idea that if you wear a mask while sick, it can make you sicker.

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stpaulbear  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:39:48am

Found another org that may be worth a donation this week. Sounds like their trying to stay on top of issues pre- and post- election day, with a focus on election day security. Anyone heard any negative info about them? They’re not listed on the CharityWatch site.

National Voter Protection Action Fund

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:41:21am

re: #332 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Someone who can offer a guarantee of payment from an alternative source, or who can offer indirect payments to the bank…such as a service…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:43:19am

re: #330 garzooma

Does anyone know if Trump had to hand over a copy of his tax returns for each of these loans?

You would think so. If you or I wanted to borrow a tiny fraction of that to buy a car or house, we would have to.

That said, famous, rich, and powerful people have different rules under capitalism, so who knows.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:44:04am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:49:38am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:49:44am

Isethoriginal, (her real name is Iseth), a religion counter-apologist (usually Islam but sometimes Christianity), takes apart a wingnut Christian who uses her actual PhD to make this assertion:

Humans are Angel Cyborgs!

The doctor’s claim starts with one of the common apologetics fails: the fallacy of Appeal to Authority (in this case, her own).

The same physicist claims to be a Planet X researcher.

Caution for Iseth’s Polish accent, which some find sexy (16:35)

Humans are Angel Cyborgs!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:51:10am

re: #339 Sufficient unto the day…

Well, let me wish the Jewish people here a Happy Loxtober.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:54:25am

re: #326 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Cook’s Garage, which is not a garage at all but a restaurant, was the primary organizer of the Trump pickup parade. They have appeared on LGF before:
(12-20-2017)
“Lubbock Restaurant Under Fire for ‘Racist’ Vintage Neon Sign”
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:56:08am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 6:58:21am

If you like suggestions:

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:02:19am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:02:23am

Sen. Richard Blumenthal says he has no intention of meeting Amy Coney Barrett.
msnbc.com

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garzooma  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:05:57am

re: #337 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You would think so. If you or I wanted to borrow a tiny fraction of that to buy a car or house, we would have to.

The point is that it goes to the question of how the NYT got ahold of the tax returns. It may be that there were dozens of entities that had copies.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:06:05am

re: #345 Belafon

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ericblair  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:07:10am

Look at whatever Barrett has decided in financial fraud/tax related matters, and ask pointed questions where either response is bad for her. Then dust off the whole Kennedy/Deutsche Bank/Kavanaugh connection, which is looking worse by the day.

ETA: This too. It’s not like she didn’t know the guy, and opens up another can of worms.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:10:00am

PPHD will release the weekend Covid-19 cases this afternoon at 3PM MDT.

In the meantime, the weekly positivity rate here is now 18.1%, thanks to Sturgis and Labor Day.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:12:29am

re: #349 ericblair

I presume the GOP doesn’t give a crap. They want to lock in permanent minority rule. Since conservatives can’t legislate, they use the courts.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:13:01am

re: #350 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

PPHD will release the weekend Covid-19 cases this afternoon at 3PM MDT.

In the meantime, the weekly positivity rate here is now 18.1%, thanks to Sturgis and Labor Day.

Jesus H. Christ. Even here, surrounded on 3 sides by barrels of red fuming stupid, we were still under 10%. Yesterday’s numbers were almost exactly 4%, but that’s % of tests and not necessarily % of people tested.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:16:08am

re: #351 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I presume the GOP doesn’t give a crap. They want to lock in permanent minority rule. Since conservatives can’t legislate, they use the courts.

Oh, I’m sure they don’t. But it’s all the more justification for expanding the courts and investigating Kavanaugh.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:16:23am

T-Minus 6 minutes

Starlink Mission

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:17:34am

re: #352 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jesus H. Christ. Even here, surrounded on 3 sides by barrels of red fuming stupid, we were still under 10%. Yesterday’s numbers were almost exactly 4%, but that’s % of tests and not necessarily % of people tested.

We are red fuming stupid. We’re also surrounded on three sides here (South Dakota, Wyoming, and Weld County Colorado).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:19:01am

re: #352 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My wife and I are still staying indoors except when necessary.

We figure that after the plague burns out, the few liberals left in the Panhandle can divide up the Panhandle between us.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:19:28am

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

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Roughly $1,346.15 a WEEK.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:20:26am

So, McTurtle assures us of a peaceful transition? Then we can count on several days of madness and chaos before the Secret Service drags Cheeto out kicking and screaming.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:22:07am

Weather Abort

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:22:40am

re: #358 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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So, McTurtle assures us of a peaceful transition? Then we can count on several days of madness and chaos before the Secret Service drags Cheeto out kicking and screaming.

When even Mitch “Putin says I’m second best” McConnell has had enough of your shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:22:57am

re: #358 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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So, McTurtle assures us of a peaceful transition? Then we can count on several days of madness and chaos before the Secret Service drags Cheeto out kicking and screaming.

Oooh, I hope that gets broadcast live.

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danarchy  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:23:05am

re: #356 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife and I are still staying indoors except when necessary.

We figure that after the plague burns out, the few liberals left in the Panhandle can divide up the Panhandle between us.

Covid is not the plague, it is not smallpox, even if everyone got it you would likely have only 1% fewer wingnuts to deal with.

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stpaulbear  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:24:01am

re: #249 Targetpractice

I can honestly say I’ve never been so invested in a celebrity or their viewpoints that their voicing an opinion contradictory to my own has led me to immediately destroy anything I owned that was connected to them.

Worst I’ve done is pack off an author’s book to the Goodwill or used book store.

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ericblair  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:24:41am

re: #358 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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So, McTurtle assures us of a peaceful transition? Then we can count on several days of madness and chaos before the Secret Service drags Cheeto out kicking and screaming.

I was reading a couple of days ago about a focus group of undecideds (hard to believe), and this dictator shit from Trump had them freaked out the most of all the issues.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:26:22am

re: #348 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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a variant of i got mine so eff you
(in this case, i didnt get it bad, so i dont care if i gave it to you)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:28:15am

re: #322 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump owes over $1.1 billion in debt, much of it coming due in the next few years.

And this supports my notion about why he panicked like a deer in the headlights when he saw Covid coming down the pike; he saw his highly-leveraged properties losing their revenue streams and directed all his thoughts and efforts to keeping them afloat at any and all costs…

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:28:54am

re: #358 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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So, McTurtle assures us of a peaceful transition? Then we can count on several days of madness and chaos before the Secret Service drags Cheeto out kicking and screaming.

to be contrarian, mitch doesnt explain how ‘winner’ is defined or determined

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:29:00am

re: #333 dangerman

…or without accurately assessing the circumstances and actual threats and risks

because they know they have nothing to worry about if they don’t.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:29:07am

Mail ballots are sent out in Nebraska thirty-five days before an election.

Thus, mine will be mailed tomorrow to me.

My wife and I will drive them in to the county seat as soon as possible afterwards.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:31:08am

re: #362 danarchy

Covid is not the plague, it is not smallpox, even if everyone got it you would likely have only 1% fewer wingnuts to deal with.

I know; just dreaming here.

I once had a discussion with the chairwoman of the village board and the village attorney, asking “what happens if there are only a few of us left in town? Do we get to divide up the millions in the bank between us?”

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:31:35am

Comment getting some love on community FB page: “I personally don’t give a damn about Trump’s taxes. I wanna know how all these congressmen become millionaires on $174,000 salary. Who is with me?”

I make a point to never comment there, but this one gets me itching. So dumb, and yet so representative of where I live.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:33:14am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And this supports my notion about why he panicked like a deer in the headlights when he saw Covid coming down the pike; he saw his highly-leveraged properties losing their revenue streams and directed all his thoughts and efforts to keeping them afloat at any and all costs…

and note - like you said - revenue streams, cash flow

all his properties - all the golf courses, doral, etc., show losses - they lose money hand over fist

except trump tower showed a profit

it’s all one big ponzi scheme

funded by bank or banks too stupid(!?) or afraid (sunk costs) to not extend more loans

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BigPapa  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:33:36am

2016: there were a lot of undecideds and Trump won them handily.

Now, there’s less undecideds, and of those, they are probably deciding now or in the next few weeks.

COVID is totally new territory as far as predictions go. But it could create an urgency opposite a depressing effect: I expect some people won’t vote due to it, but I expect there to be people who vote because of it, and Trump’s handling of it, and his voter suppression, slide to fascism, etc. This factor could really go either way.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:33:54am

re: #369 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Mail ballots are sent out in Nebraska thirty-five days before an election.

Thus, mine will be mailed tomorrow to me.

My wife and I will drive them in to the county seat as soon as possible afterwards.

Smart

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:35:43am

re: #373 BigPapa

2016: there were a lot of undecideds and Trump won them handily.

Now, there’s less undecideds, and of those, they are probably deciding now or in the next few weeks.

COVID is totally new territory as far as predictions go. But it could create an urgency opposite a depressing effect: I expect some people won’t vote due to it, but I expect there to be people who vote because of it, and Trump’s handling of it, and his voter suppression, slide to fascism, etc. This factor could really go either way.

wapo/abc poll has biden up 10 and only 2% undecided in a biden/trump matchup (no third party)

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:38:26am

re: #375 dangerman

wapo/abc poll has biden up 10 and only 2% undecided in a biden/trump matchup (no third party)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:39:36am

re: #374 dangerman

Smart

That’s what we’ll be driving into the county seat.

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BigPapa  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:40:25am

re: #375 dangerman

wapo/abc poll has biden up 10 and only 2% undecided in a biden/trump matchup (no third party)

Wow 2% seems crazy low. I can’t find my link but 2016 had 6% undecided at the end, majority going Trump then 3rd party eating away at the rest shorting Clinton.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:41:09am

re: #377 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s what we’ll be driving into the county seat.

We had a Smart until my ex totaled it spinning out of control on a snowy road and smacking into a retaining wall. For that, she was able to walk away generally unharmed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:42:50am

re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We had a Smart until my ex totaled it spinning out of control on a snowy road and smacking into a retaining wall. For that, she was able to walk away generally unharmed.

Our county prosecutor owned the other Smart in the Panhandle. He totalled it when he was broadsided by a tractor in the county seat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:46:59am

The most immature, corrupt, cheating, broke-ass President we’ve ever had and his Senate of GOP yes men are going to to appoint a new justice to the Supreme Court less than one month before an election.

Read that again.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:49:44am

re: #381 Eclectic Cyborg

The most immature, corrupt, cheating, broke-ass President we’ve ever had and his Senate of GOP yes men are going to to appoint a new justice to the Supreme Court less than one month before an election.

Read that again.

And I have a choice of voting against one of those senators by voting for a candidate accused of suggesting gang-raping one of his staffers, or the Libertarian.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:52:07am
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ericblair  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:52:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:54:16am

re: #384 ericblair

Trump won by 77,000 votes across three states. If 1% of likely Republican voters are demoralized learning that their savvy businessman is a complete fraud, it’s significant.

Everybody and I do mean everybody knew the reason he refused to release his tax records.

I would like to think that this will change things but really, we all knew that he was fudging on his taxes and lying about his businesses.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:54:54am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 7:55:25am

re: #385 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would like to think that this will change things but really, we all knew that he was fudging on his taxes and lying about his businesses.

My hope is it might convince some conservatives to bail on him and either not vote or vote for someone besides him, which is fine with me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:01:11am

re: #387 Eclectic Cyborg

My hope is it might convince some conservatives to bail on him and either not vote or vote for someone besides him, which is fine with me.

If we were dealing with rational people and not Thugee Cult members, I would also think so. But Biden is going to have a field day with this at the debates…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:01:24am

re: #372 dangerman

President Ponzi.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:01:36am

re: #387 Eclectic Cyborg

My hope is it might convince some conservatives to bail on him and either not vote or vote for someone besides him, which is fine with me.

My wife is busy with her campaign of door knocking here for Jo Johannson.

Meanwhile, Foreign Policy doesn’t seem to think I should have Internet service that doesn’t cost 1/10th of all my income.

Make Surveillance Capitalists Pay Their Dues

Congressional action has typically left big tech firms intact, instead mandating that they improve access for all consumers. Washington should stick to that model.

How about instead we mandate large political think tanks have no better Internet service (or cell service) than the worst place in the country?

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BigPapa  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:01:55am

the desperation of Trumpkin sycophants is setting in

let us enjoy the shitshow

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:02:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:04:54am

re: #392 Interesting Times

Donald Trump has 5 kids, 3 baby’s mamas, lives in government housing, and has outstanding warrants.

If he were black and had been shot in the back seven times by policemen while unarmed, the RW Press would have a field day with those facts…

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:06:26am

re: #389 GlutenFreeJesus

President Ponzi.

President Broke-Ass Mofo.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:06:33am

re: #392 Interesting Times

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:07:28am

re: #376 Interesting Times

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it’s even harder to come back when so many votes are being cast early

and trump isn’t ‘coming back’ because he’s never been in the lead.
his next time would be the first time

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:07:42am

re: #377 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That’s what we’ll be driving into the county seat.

you got it in one

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:12:08am

LOL, note the dates.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:16:30am

Flood damage, lack of funds mean Nebraska City tourist stop John Brown’s Cave may never reopen (Omaha World-Herald)

NEBRASKA CITY — For eight decades, a musty underground tunnel called John Brown’s Cave and the rough-hewn Mayhew Cabin have drawn tourists and school kids to this Missouri River town.

The site’s exhibits have focused on the story of slavery and the abolition movement, though there’s been a long-running debate over whether the site was ever a stop for escaping slaves on the famed Underground Railroad or whether Brown, the famed abolitionist, ever visited it.

But now, there’s a bigger question facing the popular attraction — will it ever reopen?

(more)

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:18:22am

re: #385 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Everybody and I do mean everybody knew the reason he refused to release his tax records.

I would like to think that this will change things but really, we all knew that he was fudging on his taxes and lying about his businesses.

Not everyone knew. Everyone who likes to constantly play armchair politician, like most of us here (not everyone), knows, but not everyone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:18:39am

re: #399 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Flood damage, lack of funds mean Nebraska City tourist stop John Brown’s Cave may never reopen (Omaha World-Herald)

(more)

Just arrange for someone to have a vision of Jesus, Mary and/or Elvis there and you will be moving tickets hand-over-fist…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:19:25am

re: #400 Belafon

Not everyone knew. Everyone who likes to constantly play armchair politician, like most of us here (not everyone), knows, but not everyone.

People are already calling it “fake news”.

If only there were some way for Trump to prove otherwise…

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:21:13am

re: #399 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Flood damage, lack of funds mean Nebraska City tourist stop John Brown’s Cave may never reopen (Omaha World-Herald)

(more)

Which is bad timing, because Showtime is doing a show about him starring Ethan Hawke.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:22:02am

re: #401 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just arrange for someone to have a vision of Jesus, Mary and/or Elvis there and you will be moving tickets hand-over-fist…

The museum entered three lawsuits against Nebraska City, claiming that failure to maintain a drainage culvert flooded the site, which is on the National Register of Historic Places.

Nebraska City successfully argued sovereign immunity in each case.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:24:02am

re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People are already calling it “fake news”.

If only there were some way for Trump to prove otherwise…

There is. Hunter Biden can turn over his tax records for public scrutiny. /s

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ericblair  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:26:24am

We wouldn’t want to be anti-Catholic, would we? Maybe we can get Handmaiden Barrett to weigh in on this.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:26:41am
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — When the coronavirus pandemic slammed the U.S. economy this spring, Dallas salon owner Shelley Luther became an overnight symbol of rebellion against lockdown measures, spending two days in a Texas jail for refusing to close her doors.

Nearly $500,000 poured into a donation fund set up by conservative activists. Republican Sen. Ted Cruz made a show of getting his hair cut at Luther’s salon. She flew to Michigan to rally with shutdown protesters and launched a run for the Texas Senate, hammering Republican Gov. Greg Abbott over virus restrictions.

Her race in a deeply red and rural district is now a small test of what other Republican candidates nationwide are counting on with just five weeks before Election Day — lingering voter resentment of lockdown orders to help boost them into office, at a time when President Donald Trump’s reelection may hinge on persuading voters that the worst is behind America.

“I stood up for you, I went to jail and I’ll do it again and again,” Luther told a room of voters this past week in a small town outside Fort Worth, in an event livestreamed on her Facebook page. Referring to Abbott, she said, “I’ll sleep on that man’s porch, bring the media until he opens up Texas.”

(more)

Lockdowns are fading, but GOP outrage isn’t in campaigns (OWH)

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Kilroy was here  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:27:02am

Interesting point of view.

Let’s talk about Trump’s taxes and how the Dems are missing….

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:29:43am

People do care about taxes

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:29:48am

re: #320 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Free Speech Movement
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:32:47am

re: #406 ericblair

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We wouldn’t want to be anti-Catholic, would we? Maybe we can get Handmaiden Barrett to weigh in on this.

Well, I mean Jesus himself said “give to Ceasar what is Caesars and give to God what is Gods.”

In other words: God don’t like tax cheats.

I guess that’s another scripture some evangelicals would prefer didn’t exist?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:35:37am

re: #411 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, I mean Jesus himself said “give to Ceasar what is Caesars and give to God what is Gods.”

In other words: God don’t like tax cheats.

I mentioned in the overnight thread, Jesus paid more taxes to His government than Donald J. Trump has paid to his.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:37:27am

re: #412 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mentioned in the overnight thread, Jesus paid more taxes to His government than Donald J. Trump has paid to his.

Especially when you factor in inflation.

//

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:38:31am
It will not help to call the leadership we have right now hypocrites; they will not care, and I doubt the charge will motivate the people who need to be motivated much. But insofar as our own reactions are concerned—and while we think about how to counter an obvious and ugly attempt to steal the Supreme Court seat of a feminist champion of equal rights even as Americans have already started voting—it may help to register the lies they tell you as the calculated insults to your intelligence and to your citizenship and to your country that they are. Fully witnessing and registering insults and degradation is more painful than sneering that you aren’t surprised. But I’ll be blunt: People are more willing to fight people who insult and degrade them than they are to fight mere “hypocrites.”

(Slate, more at the link)

Mitch McConnell’s machinations are something far more degrading.

It’s Not Hypocrisy

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:41:57am

Donnie’s tax returns just proves how brilliant of a business man he is to pay so little in taxes.

Have we seen this on fox yet?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:42:08am

Oh, I’m sure Mitch is compromised as fuck too, he’s just better at hiding it than Trump.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:43:31am

Cheating on taxes is wrong either way, but it seems like most businessmen that cheat on taxes are, you know, relatively successful, they aren’t in hock for over a billion dollars.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:43:44am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

I think his absolute floor is 30%; I’d be greatly surprised if he dipped below that. But even if he only got 30% of the popular vote, it’d still be an ass-whuppin’ of epic proportions.

Just a reminder that the lowest percentile a major party candidate got in a Presidential election was McGovern’s 37% in 1972…It would be fitting if Trump fell below that…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:45:00am
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:45:09am

re: #406 ericblair

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We wouldn’t want to be anti-Catholic, would we? Maybe we can get Handmaiden Barrett to weigh in on this.

He can say whatever he wants but the Catholic Bishops and Cardinals have made it clear that nothing will stop them from marching lockstep with Trump and the Republicans.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:45:46am

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

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Amazing. Every word that you just wrote is wrong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:46:18am

re: #415 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s tax returns just proves how brilliant of a business man he is to pay so little in taxes.

Have we seen this on fox yet?

They said the same of Mitt Romney when it came out that he paid a lower rate than a McDonald’s employee.

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calochortus  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:46:27am

re: #415 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s tax returns just proves how brilliant of a business man he is to pay so little in taxes.

Have we seen this on fox yet?

I wouldn’t know about Fox, but I’ve seen more than one Freeper argue that it’s OK if Trump doesn’t pay taxes because he employs a lot of people and they pay taxes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:46:42am
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:47:09am

re: #415 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s tax returns just proves how brilliant of a business man he is to pay so little in taxes.

Have we seen this on fox yet?

Must have since my relatives are reciting that bullshit word for word!

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:47:16am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

I think his absolute floor is 30%; I’d be greatly surprised if he dipped below that. But even if he only got 30% of the popular vote, it’d still be an ass-whuppin’ of epic proportions.

Several weeks ago Steve Kornacki had a segment detailing that basically any candidate for either party (D and R) starts with (and ends up with at the minimum) about 41% of the vote. He showed how this worked historically. That could change this year.

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jeffreyw  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:47:17am

re: #321 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The cleanup crew is up early, I see.

Up late working the night shift.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:47:31am

re: #420 🌹UOJB!

He can say whatever he wants but the Catholic Bishops and Cardinals have made it clear that nothing will stop them from marching lockstep with Trump and the Republicans.

It’s not the Catholic Bishops and Cardinals that are the issue.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:47:44am

re: #425 🌹UOJB!

Must have since my relatives are reciting that bullshit word for word!

Thugee Cult

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:48:00am

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:48:07am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

BWAHAHA. So desperate.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:48:24am

There’s always a tweet….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:48:37am

re: #411 Eclectic Cyborg

Well, I mean Jesus himself said “give to Ceasar what is Caesars and give to God what is Gods.”

In other words: God don’t like tax cheats.

I guess that’s another scripture some evangelicals would prefer didn’t exist?

Not just evangelicals. Introduce yourself as an atheist to just about any Christian and see what happens.

Besides, even Martin Luther argued the position of Lying for Jesus as necessary to bring about conversion of heathens (Jews, Catholics, and atheists). Lying for Jesus to get a theocratic government is a noble goal.

I’m waiting for a Protestant church body to condemn Amy Coney Barrett’s positions. (chirp chirp)

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:49:12am

re: #428 Belafon

It’s not the Catholic Bishops and Cardinals that are the issue.

It’s the whole corrupted church…

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:50:21am

re: #433 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not just evangelicals. Introduce yourself as an atheist to just about any Christian and see what happens.

Besides, even Martin Luther argued the position of Lying for Jesus as necessary to bring about conversion of heathens (Jews, Catholics, and atheists). Lying for Jesus to get a theocratic government is a noble goal.

I’m waiting for a Protestant church body to condemn Amy Coney Barrett’s positions. (chirp chirp)

crickets…silence…you might get lucky and hear the “thoughts and prayers bullshit”…

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BigPapa  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:50:43am

If somebody says the proof of the grift is actually proof of his greatness, tell them to explain how he’s made no income for 11 out of 15 years yet still gets over $1.1B in loans.

If they can’t explain that then their explanation of his brilliance from the same body of evidence is equally worthless.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:50:54am

re: #425 🌹UOJB!

Must have since my relatives are reciting that bullshit word for word!

Fortunately I don’t have to hear my Christian relatives make excuses for tax evasion.

The last time I checked, that was theft. That would be one of those X Commandments they love so much.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:50:57am

re: #434 🌹UOJB!

It’s the whole corrupted church…

It’s the politicians wielding their religion as a weapon and yet not following what the religion says.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:52:03am

re: #438 Belafon

It’s the politicians wielding their religion as a weapon and yet not following what the religion says.

They reflect their voters.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:52:10am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:52:44am

Vimeo services will start in a couple minutes. May we all have more naughty stuff about Republicans exposed during Services today.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:52:56am

re: #436 BigPapa

If somebody says the proof of the grift is actually proof of his greatness, tell them to explain how he’s made no income for 11 out of 15 years yet still gets over $1.1B in loans.

If they can’t explain that then their explanation of his brilliance from the same body of evidence is equally worthless.

Martin Luther: Reason is the Devil’s whore.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:54:17am

I just signed up for World Wildlife Fund Species Step Challenge throughout the month of October 2020.

I’m looking for sponsors/supporters.

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steve_davis  Sep 28, 2020 • 8:55:18am

re: #119 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m thinking of buying a digital camera for my trip to Vermont. I want a real camera, have used a canon Rebel and liked it. Will never do film again. Suggestions? New or used?

not olympia. they’ve now gone under. Pentax makes great gear, but they’re now Rikoh. Interestingly, Nikon makes great, relatively cheap digital full-frame, and Sony absolutely owns the best mirrorless stuff.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:01:16am

My wife received a hand-written card in the mail.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:04:04am

This is fine.
No, seriously, this is VERY FINE :D

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:06:19am

If Race Comes Down to Omaha, Poll Shows Biden Has an Edge (New York Times)

Back in 2008, pundits also weighed in on the “what if it comes down to NE-2 or ME-2” question.

Like then, the race isn’t going to be close.

The lede: Nebraska’s Second Congressional District could play a decisive role in a very close election.

In a close race, the presidential election could be decided by an unlikely spot: Nebraska’s Second Congressional District, including Omaha and most of its suburbs.

If the race is decided there, Joe Biden appears to have the advantage, according to a New York Times/Siena College poll. He leads President Trump by seven points, 48 percent to 41 percent, among likely voters in the first nonpartisan survey of the district so far this year, according to FiveThirtyEight.

(more, with a link to the poll)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:08:25am

re: #446 (((Archangel1)))

This is fine.
No, seriously, this is VERY FINE :D

Beat me by two minutes. (::

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:09:14am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

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Trump still hasn’t voluntarily released his taxes. Gee, I wonder why?

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:09:57am

Trump was leading by double digits in January.
No Democrat has won in Nebraska since 1964.
Nice Going Darth Orange!

451
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:11:11am

We’re just cooler here.

452
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:11:32am

re: #449 Mike Lamb

Trump still hasn’t voluntarily released his taxes. Gee, I wonder why?

Because they are irrelevant, because nobody would be interested, they would be too complex to understand, because he is under audit because he already told you he is rich and successful, and who are you going to believe, his solemn word as a politician or some legally binding federal documents?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:11:48am

re: #450 (((Archangel1)))

Trump was leading by double digits in January.
No Democrat has won in Nebraska since 1964.
Nice Going Darth Orange!

President Obama won NE-2 in 2008.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:11:58am
455
(((Archangel1)))  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:13:32am

re: #453 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

President Obama won NE-2 in 2008.

I stand corrected.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:15:10am

re: #452 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because they are irrelevant, because nobody would be interested, they would be too complex to understand, because he is under audit because he already told you he is rich and successful, and who are you going to believe, his solemn word as a politician or some legally binding federal documents?

what’s been published so far proves he’s been lying to the courts

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:15:48am

re: #455 (((Archangel1)))

I stand corrected.

That’s okay, we’re pretty forgettable here. /s

458
Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:18:11am

Even Drudge is hammering away at Dear Leader.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:18:43am

re: #290 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I have a feeling a new German Government raid on Deutsche Bank is imminent.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:19:56am

Local news:

It was the ability of a small rodent that disrupted the entire electrical grid for the city of Bridgeport on Monday when a squirrel chewed through a power line on East 5th street, knocking out power to the people living and working in the north part of town.

According to Interim Public Works Director Mark Wickard, the squirrel in his final act of life, ate into the primary line that feeds the north part of town, shutting it down completely and disrupting the entire grid momentarily.

Got Power? (Bridgeport, Nebr. News-Blade)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:24:48am

re: #459 Florida Panhandler

I have a feeling a new German Government raid on Deutsche Bank is imminent.

They already have a lot of egg on their faces over Wirecard, the “Enron of Germany”.
Would look bad for them to ignore this one as well.

462
Nojay UK  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:25:20am

re: #119 I Would Prefer Not To

That’s a bit like “I want a computer. What should I get?”

Are you willing to lug 10 kilos of lenses, tripods and assorted bits ‘n pieces around and you’ve got 5k burning a hole in your pocket? Full-sized SLR plus three decent lenses (portrait prime, mid-range snapshot, telephoto/zoom). Canon would be my choice but Nikon will work too. The choice between them is religious rather than rational, technically speaking.

Something you can stick in a pocket and pull out to take a chance photo when it presents itself? There’s more than enough choice in that range, from 1500 dollar semi-pro compacts with decent-sized sensors down to 300 buck chuckables with lots of gimmicky features you’ll never use. Avoid 30x-40x stupidzooms at all costs unless you actually have a use case for extremely long crappy-quality shots.

It’s a while since I was in the market for Yet Another Camera myself so I’m not sure what the current crop are like. I have a preference for Panasonic — they still manufacture everything in Japan, I understand and they have a working association with Leica for their lenses. Avoid Sony the Bastards like the plague, they make sweet technically advanced kit that’s horribly fragile and proprietary and impossible to fix when it goes wrong.

If you’re on foot and walking the trails during Fall I’d go for something like a Canon Powershot GX 7 or Panasonic LX 100, pocketable cameras that produce quality images but with limited zoom. You’ll find similar cameras from most manufacturers, including Sony (spit!).

463
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:25:54am

The Lincoln, Nebr. Journal-Star endorses Joe Biden for President.

Editorial, 9/27: Biden offers best ideas, message for presidency

President Donald Trump has trumpeted “promises made, promises kept” as a critical campaign slogan. However, he’s broken many that have hurt Nebraskans.

His flippant comments about trade wars being “easy to win” stand out most. Those remarks, coupled with his absolutely backward approach to international trade and withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, hurt an agriculture industry already struggling to survive. The Keystone XL pipeline remains in legal limbo.

His promise to conservatives to not govern by executive order, as he accused his predecessor of doing, was cast aside just like a formal Republican Party platform for 2020. The swamp he vowed to drain remains as alive and well as it’s ever been, and that national debt he swore to shrink has exploded under his watch to the point where it’s set to exceed America’s GDP in 2021.

And don’t forget his greatest hit: The “big, beautiful wall” has hardly been built, and Mexico isn’t paying for it.

Perhaps none have had greater consequences, though, than his lack of leadership and attempts to wish away COVID-19, which has already killed nearly 500 Nebraskans - and twice as many Americans as World War I - and brand it a hoax that will simply disappear. It’s brought out the worst in his leadership style: the blame shifting, the name calling, the imperviousness to reality.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:30:51am

re: #463 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Based on the trajectory of the last four years, the best choice for America’s next leader is Joe Biden.

The former vice president and senator from Delaware offers a wealth of experience after more than four decades in public office - not to mention a different path than the man he hopes to unseat.

Simply put, Trump’s first term in office has not been what Nebraskans need. Biden will be a change of pace - and that in and of itself represents an improvement.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:31:44am

re: #463 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

re: #464 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Certainly not pulling any punches, are they?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:33:21am

re: #465 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Certainly not pulling any punches, are they?

Let’s see if that can swing some voters in NE-1 (where Lincoln is).

Even better than taking one electoral vote in NE-2 would be taking both state votes (or dreaming, NE-1 as well).

467
Teukka  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:38:14am

This is your Monday PSA:

468
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:39:33am

“Promises made, promises kept” seems like a solid slogan for a guy who will potentially default on a billion dollars worth of loans, doesn’t it?

///

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Jay C  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:40:25am

re: #466 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Let’s see if that can swing some voters in NE-1 (where Lincoln is).

Even better than taking one electoral vote in NE-2 would be taking both state votes (or dreaming, NE-1 as well).

From a quick peruse, NE allocates its two “statewide” EVs to the popular-vote winner. Is it likely the (D) ticket can pull a majority in the state? Or is one district enough to hope for?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:40:44am

My regional newspaper misrepresenting Canada’s chief public health officer.

OTTAWA, Canada — Sex in a pandemic can be complicated, Canada’s lead medical doctor says, and it’s best to skip kissing and perhaps wear a mask to prevent spreading COVID-19. (italics mine)

Canada’s top doc: Wear mask while having sex, avoid kissing

She didn’t say that. She didn’t even imply that.

Her statement is here:

Statement from the Chief Public Health Officer of Canada on September 2, 2020 (goes to the Public Health Agency of Canada)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:42:40am

re: #469 Jay C

From a quick peruse, NE allocates its two “statewide” EVs to the popular-vote winner. Is it likely the (D) ticket can pull a majority in the state? Or is one district enough to hope for?

Probably only one district, unless there is a massive turnout in NE-2.

Voter turnout here is usually higher than the country’s average due to mail ballots in the rural counties.

There are an awful lot of people who want to see Pumpkin Pinochet removed though, so maybe.

472
danarchy  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:43:11am

re: #446 (((Archangel1)))

This is fine.
No, seriously, this is VERY FINE :D

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Trump won CD2 47.8 - 44.5.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:45:03am

re: #470 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, the statement suggests she sort of said that, but your local paper isn’t giving the full picture:

When engaging in sexual activity you can reduce your risk by:

Monitoring yourself for symptoms of COVID-19 and not having sex if you or your partner is experiencing symptoms;
Limiting your use of alcohol and other substances so you and your partner(s) are able to make safe decisions;
Skipping kissing and avoiding face-to-face contact or closeness;
consider using a mask that covers the nose and mouth;
Being aware if you or your partner may be at higher risk for more severe outcomes of COVID-19. This includes:
people of any age with underlying medical conditions;
people with compromised immune systems; and
people living with obesity.
As usual, engaging in safer sex practices, including using condoms, knowing your own STI status and the status of your partner.

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stpaulbear  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:52:09am

re: #463 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The WaPo made their official (and lengthy) endorsement of Biden today too.

475
Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:53:48am

re: #424 Eclectic Cyborg

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Has tRump agreed to take one too? If not, fuck him and his request.

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Jay C  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:56:08am

re: #474 stpaulbear

The WaPo made their official (and lengthy) endorsement of Biden today too.

Yeah: their lede says it all:

In order to expel the worst president of modern times, many voters might be willing to vote for almost anybody.

Fortunately, to oust President Trump in 2020, voters do not have to lower their standards.

477
b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:57:25am

What a mess:

478
Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:58:13am

re: #416 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh, I’m sure Mitch is compromised as fuck too, he’s just better at hiding it than Trump.

His wife definitely is.

479
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:59:16am

re: #477 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

Brad Parscale’s wife told police he’d loaded a gun in front of her and she later heard a loud bang, according to police reports. Officers saw scratching and bruising on her face and arms that she said was the result of prior spousal abuse, per the reports.]

stochiastic misogyny

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2020 • 9:59:58am

re: #451 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re just cooler here.

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Or maybe tired of getting crushed by his stupid trade tariff’s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:00:21am

In the United Kingdom tonight:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:06:05am

re: #481 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In the United Kingdom tonight:

[Embedded content]

Jesus H. Christ.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:07:21am

re: #482 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jesus H. Christ.

They just loves them some deterrence, be it on the Mexican border or in polling places

484
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:09:59am

re: #483 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They just loves them some deterrence, be it on the Mexican border or in polling places

Or at abortion clinics.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:10:54am
486
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:12:32am
On September 23rd The Economist published our first-ever statistical forecast of the battle for control of America’s Senate. It makes the Democrats modest favourites, giving them a two-in-three shot at re-taking the upper chamber. Had we launched our model two weeks earlier, it would have shown an even closer race, with a 60% chance of Democratic control. The biggest driver of this movement has been a change in its analysis of Maine, one of the most likely states to give Democrats their 50th vote in the 100-seat chamber.

With the benefit of hindsight, it looks as if our forecast was too kind to Susan Collins, the Republican incumbent, from the start. In states with little polling, our model relies on “fundamental” factors like past voting records, which favoured Ms Collins. She won re-election in a landslide in 2014. Donald Trump came within three percentage points of winning her state. Voters have historically rewarded centrists, and Ms Collins is the Senate’s most moderate Republican. And incumbency tends to be most valuable in small states with lots of secular white voters, such as Maine.

Our new Senate model has inched towards Democrats in September (The Economist)

A flurry of recent polls make Susan Collins an underdog for re-election in Maine

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:14:10am

October doesn’t even officially start for 2.5 more days, and the wheels are already coming off. At this rate, is there going to be anything left worth revealing about Trump, his cronies, his campaign, and his disastrous failures as a businessman and as a President by then?

488
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:15:37am

re: #487 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

October doesn’t even officially start for 2.5 more days, and the wheels are already coming off. At this rate, is there going to be anything left worth revealing about Trump, his cronies, his campaign, and his disastrous failures as a businessman and as a President by then?

He is growing more desperate by the minute, which makes him more dangerous on the one hand, but makes any extreme, desperate gambit on his part now seem all the more transparent and contrived.

489
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:18:09am

re: #485 Teddy’s Person ✌

I thought that was a Playboy bunny symbol in your nickname at first.

490
jaunte  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:18:16am

Thread:

“If the false disclosure is “material,” it could be a crime under 18 U.S.C. § 1001. Given that the president’s not subject to the conflict of interest law and, as a result, the entire framework for presidential ethics is based on disclosure alone, one might argue it is material./5”

491
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:19:42am
492
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:24:09am

re: #491 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Gellein: It was initially rolled out as a marriage program to save marriages at 16 major campuses, and some of those are megachurches. Some of them are as small as village churches, now that it’s available to pretty much everybody, and across all faiths: Catholic, Protestant, but mainly evangelical and dominion Catholics.

They obviously wield enormous money and power. But the strength of the platform for the churches is this cheap tool. You can roll it out in a village church, and you can almost use it as a precognitive science of figuring out who’s heading for divorce, who’s heading for eviction, who’s in trouble.

493
wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:24:15am
Seattle bike patrol officer’s actions will be investigated
Published September 25, 2020
This is the latest incident involving an officer using a bike as a weapon that has drawn criticism by some in the industry.

SEATTLE (BRAIN) — The King County Sheriff’s Office is investigating a video circulating on social media in which a Seattle Police Officer rolls his bike over the head of a protester lying in the street.

According to The Associated Press, the civilian-led Office of Police Accountability (OPA) requested the investigation by an outside agency. The Seattle Police Department’s Force Investigation Team identified possible policy violations and “potential criminal conduct,” OPA director Andrew Myerberg said Thursday.

The bike patrol officer who was not identified was placed on paid leave.

Protests have flared nationwide after a Kentucky grand jury did not indict Louisville officers in the fatal shooting of Breonna Taylor, a Black emergency medical worker shot and killed by White officers who entered her home during a narcotics investigation in March.

On Thursday, Seattle police said one officer was struck in the head with a baseball bat, cracking his helmet and resulting in minor injuries. Arrests were made for resisting arrest, property destruction, and refusing to disperse.

Bike patrol incidents have some in the industry calling for the end of bike sales to police departments. In June, BikeCo, the North American distributor of Fuji bikes, suspended sales to police forces, citing reports of bikes being used as weapons at Black Lives Matter marches. Fuji police bikes are sold through bike shops.

In August, Mellow Johnny’s Bike Shop in Austin, Texas, said it no longer will sell bikes to the Austin Police Department beginning in 2021 because of concerns over officers using them to control protesters.

Following a Forbes article about the use of police bikes at demonstrations, Trek president John Burke released a statement that said “we support the peaceful protest of police brutality and inequality and oppose any unlawful action by any citizen including police. Our bicycles have played a long-time, important role in community-based law enforcement programs, bringing officers out of stations and vehicles and into neighborhoods where they are more connected to the communities they serve. … This approach to community relations has delivered positive change over the years, and we are supportive of our products being used in this manner.”

[…]

What about the baseball bats?!?

/

494
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:25:52am

re: #491 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oh yeah, Jesus would love this…

////

And of course these assholes would be involved…

What initially happened is that a Koch brothers-funded charity commissioned Cambridge Analytica, along with a software company called Glue, to build a software platform that could be used by churches in order to target vulnerable people.

495
Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:28:37am

It’s just a matter time before his “salary donation” is revealed as a scam as well.

496
Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:31:38am

re: #495 Dr. Matt

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It’s just a matter time before his “salary donation” is revealed as a scam as well.

Yeah, he’s probably been giving it to a “charity” that he is the lone recipient of their “help”.

497
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:34:45am

More than 20 states report coronavirus spikes as experts warn of fall, winter surge (goes to MSN)

We’re surrounded here.

New coronavirus cases increased over the past week by at least 10 percent, in 21 predominantly Western states, according to a CNN analysis.

Alabama, Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Washington state, Wisconsin and Wyoming have all seen increases in the virus, the analysis found, based on data from Johns Hopkins University.

(more)

498
Belafon  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:35:03am

re: #496 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, he’s probably been giving it to a “charity” that he is the lone recipient of their “help”.

The charity is called the “Aknavi Foundation.”

499
Jay C  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:36:15am

re: #496 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, he’s probably been giving it to a “charity” that he is the lone recipient of their “help”.

Right: we’ll probably find that the recipients of his much-touted salary donations are “organizations” like:

The David Dennison Foundation
The Little Sisters of St. Ivanka
The Harold Bornstein Medical Institute
The Noble Prize Committee

etc.

500
Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:36:51am

re: #498 Belafon

The charity is called the “Aknavi Foundation.”

The “David Dennison Memorial Trust Foundation”.

501
sagehen  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:36:56am

re: #485 Teddy’s Person ✌

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Now we know what pushed Parscale over the edge.

502
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:38:22am

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:38:38am

re: #497 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More than 20 states report coronavirus spikes as experts warn of fall, winter surge (goes to MSN)

We’re surrounded here.

(more)

Our new positive rate has been holding around 7-8%, which correlates with the 4-5% of new tests positive (many of them must be retests, which explains the discrepancy). It’s higher than I’d like, but considering how out-of-control all our neighbors are, and that the U of M has not done the intelligent thing and shut the fuck down yet, and the prevalence of maskholes in the densest population area in the state, I really can’t complain all that loudly. The problem is that in order to walk the tightrope of politics with a party that is literally insane, the Governor has had to keep us more open than we should be (though not anywhere near fully open), which is preventing us from driving the numbers back down, along with our idiot neighbors and the popularity of going to Wisconsin for a weekend to “be free”.

504
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:38:42am

Halloween treat idea!

505
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:39:56am

re: #499 Jay C

Right: we’ll probably find that the recipients of his much-touted salary donations are “organizations” like:

The David Dennison Foundation
The Little Sisters of St. Ivanka
The Harold Bornstein Medical Institute
The Noble Prize Committee

etc.

Protestants and Methodists United for a Reformed Tomorrow

506
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:40:07am

re: #495 Dr. Matt

It’s just a matter time before his “salary donation” is revealed as a scam as well.

It’s also a lie, as both Presidents John F. Kennedy and Herbert Hoover donated their entire salaries as well.

507
dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:40:55am
508
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:42:00am

re: #507 dangerman

On that topic, I’ve seen varying figures. The NYT article referenced $287M and something like $421M, and then there’s the $1.1B from this AM. Can someone help me resolve what each of these numbers means?

509
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:43:22am

re: #494 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh yeah, Jesus would love this…

////

And of course these assholes would be involved…

What initially happened is that a Koch brothers-funded charity commissioned Cambridge Analytica, along with a software company called Glue, to build a software platform that could be used by churches in order to target vulnerable people.

Plus both Robert Mercer and Steve Bannon were involved with Cambridge Analytica.

510
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:43:35am

re: #507 dangerman

See and upon hearing a statement like that, I’d be wondering: “Okay, so why don’t American banks want anything to do with you?”

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:44:18am
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sagehen  Sep 28, 2020 • 10:46:13am

re: #491 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Gosh, how very ISIS of them.

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Alephnaught  Sep 28, 2020 • 11:20:28am

re: #127 EPR-radar

I never even saw an episode of the Apprentice, and it was always clear to me that this was Trump LARPing as some kind of business genius.

Of course, real business geniuses have more lucrative things to do with their time than play reality TV show pretend games.

I saw the UK version of The Apprentice, and it was hosted by Sir Alan Sugar, who was the head of Amstrad, who did affordable electronic goods (I had one of their radios as a kid.), and it was the very definition of a UK company that does okay products, sometimes good ones, but not in any way groundbreaking.

I always found it amusing that the grand prize at the end of a series was that the final winner gets to work for Amstrad. Essentially the programme makers picked Sir Alan Sugar because of his bluntness, which made for good reality TV.

So, I was not surprised when I learned Trump was the US equivalent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2020 • 1:16:24pm

re: #332 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My question is, who the hell does he bank with that he can keep getting loans with the amount of outstanding debt he has? I don’t care how much you have in assets, somewhere along the line someone must have said, “This seems awfully suspicious, I’m not sure we should loan money to someone who already owes this much.”

money laundering has different rules for “loans”


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