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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:16:58am

Good to know:

Trump is coordinating with Flynn’s legal team on strategy. This is part of an ongoing pattern where Trump and his cronies coordinate their messaging and strategy to undermine the rule of law and thwart the equal administration of justice under the law. Trump meets with the AG to coordinate messaging. Trump meets with his felonious NSA’s lawyer to talk strategy.

None of this is normal or legal. It’s not mere norm breaking, but actively destroys the rule of law. Trump heads the government, and his AG is sabotaging efforts to hold Trump’s campaign cronies accountable for the crimes they committed.

In fact, there’s evidence that Trump’s DOJ is corrupted and complicit in the Trumpworld coverup.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:18:39am

3X a Census worker knocked on my door asking if I could talk to other people in my building about completing the Census.

only 4 apartments responded. The rest refused citing either fears that Trump will use the info to deport or arrest them OR they refuse to participate because of what they hear on Spanish radio from Republican talk show hosts…

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:19:58am

re: #1 lawhawk

Good to know:

Trump is coordinating with Flynn’s legal team on strategy. This is part of an ongoing pattern where Trump and his cronies coordinate their messaging and strategy to undermine the rule of law and thwart the equal administration of justice under the law. Trump meets with the AG to coordinate messaging. Trump meets with his felonious NSA’s lawyer to talk strategy.

None of this is normal or legal. It’s not mere norm breaking, but actively destroys the rule of law. Trump heads the government, and his AG is sabotaging efforts to hold Trump’s campaign cronies accountable for the crimes they committed.

In fact, there’s evidence that Trump’s DOJ is corrupted and complicit in the Trumpworld coverup.

Fox News is in the mix as well.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:20:13am
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:21:51am

hmmm $1.5 million divided by $750 equals…

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:22:47am

It’s clear that Joe doesn’t have Trump’s flair for the illegal accounting and self dealing.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:22:57am

re: #4 lawhawk

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Suckers!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:23:26am

re: #4 lawhawk

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re: #4 lawhawk

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So Trump paid 0.0005 of what Biden did.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:27:32am

re: #6 lawhawk

Joe—Gosh I don’t pay $70,000 for my hair styling…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:30:30am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:30:47am

re: #9 🌹UOJB!

Joe—Gosh I don’t pay $70,000 for my hair styling…

I’d be shocked if Joe has paid that much for his hair in his 78 years on this earth. Truth is Biden has a regular person appeal that Trump thinks he has but really doesn’t.

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wrenchwench  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:31:08am

[…]

Stan Rodriquez drove in from San Diego as a representative for the Kumeyaay people, whose traditional land in Southern California and northern Baja, Mexico, has also been divided by the border — and more recently by Trump’s new barrier.

“We’re here in solidarity,” he said. “It cuts through our territory, too.”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:31:30am
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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:33:17am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:33:43am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:35:21am

re: #14 (((Archangel1)))

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Trump has never proved he’s not the father of Ivanka’s children.//

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Amory Blaine  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:35:36am

I’ve been using malarkey in my day to day lately. It is the roaring 20s after all.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:35:58am

I think this is the first time I have ever looked forward to a political debate.

I do notice that democrats are doing better at speaking the truth on TV now. Pelosi seems out of fucks to give which is awesome. I hope they can keep the momentum going, which shouldn’t be hard with Trump handing them ammo every day.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:37:09am

re: #14 (((Archangel1)))

That’s assault and attempted murder. What the hell?

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:37:17am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:38:12am
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Teukka  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:38:27am

Noted in my various feeds. Seems worth reading:
The New York Times: A Theory About Conspiracy Theories

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:39:11am

They can check Biden for earpieces if we get to check Trump for diapers.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:39:36am
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Camp Waconda  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:41:16am

re: #24

[BASIL FAWLTY] Whatever you do, don’t mention the war!

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:41:30am

re: #24 jaunte

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danarchy  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:43:14am

re: #19 A Mom Anon

That’s assault and attempted murder. What the hell?

It wasn’t a criminal complaint. It was an allegation by AJ Delgado in a custody hearing about a woman she declined to name.

Miller of course, denies it.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:43:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:45:06am

re: #28 lawhawk

Kayleigh McEnany

Biden is asking for a break every 30 minutes during tonight’s debate!

There are no breaks when you’re leader of the free world, Joe!

Except when it is time to go play golf…

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:45:41am

re: #24 jaunte

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Here come all the demands from team Trump that they will use as an excuse for Trump to back out. He has to be stomping all over the White House ranting incoherently as the nation discusses his lack of wealth.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:46:17am

re: #28 lawhawk

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“Trump never uses the bathroom!”

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Teukka  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:46:57am

re: #28 lawhawk

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Just some perspective: Of the 1,000,000-ish dead in Covid globally, 20% have died in the United States, which only has 4%-ish of the world population.

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:47:00am

re: #31 Belafon

Diapers keep him on the go!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:47:20am

re: #31 Belafon

“Trump never uses the bathroom!”

He doesn’t have an asshole.

/Well, except for the one on his face

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:47:21am

re: #16 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Trump has never proved he’s not the father of Ivanka’s children.//

I’ve heard people say….

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:47:34am

re: #28 lawhawk

There are no breaks when you’re leader of the free world, Joe!

What would the WH Spokesliar know about Angela Merkel’s schedule?

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danarchy  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:50:46am

re: #28 lawhawk

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Huh, does that mean Trump wears a diaper, or maybe a catheter?

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:50:54am

re: #17 Amory Blaine

I’ve been using malarkey in my day to day lately. It is the roaring 20s after all.

Well that’s the bee’s knees

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:51:09am

re: #27 danarchy

It wasn’t a criminal complaint. It was an allegation by AJ Delgado in a custody hearing about a woman she declined to name.

Miller of course, denies it.

By the way has Jason finally paid child support to AJ?

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:52:14am

oy!

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:53:04am

A member of the British Parliament nominated Joe.

This will roll right off Trump. Water under the bridge. ////////////

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:54:01am

re: #24 jaunte

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WTactualF. One of the biggest things affecting the US right now and we are not supposed to talk about it? again, WTactualF.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:54:01am

re: #40 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

InfoWars says Biden unfairly experienced and remembers stuff.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:54:56am

re: #24 jaunte

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No worries
Biden will do it
Younthink trump’s got a retort planned?

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:55:43am

re: #40 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

oy!

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Thing is, if a candidate has a competent campaign staff, they can anticipate the questions. The topics are out there, and it’s not too hard to come up with a general idea of what the questions might be.

Trumpco whining about getting the questions in advance means they tried and failed to get the questions in advance.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:56:35am

The NY Times is routinely subject to insult here, often merited, but they were the ones who broke this story by getting hold of Trump’s taxes, a feat not yet managed by any other publication.

And it was the NY Times that first got hold of the Pentagon Papers and starting publishing them, not the Washington Post. Of course, we are fortunate that the Court wasn’t today’s court which would have barred the publication and allowed journalists to be imprisoned.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:58:05am

re: #44 dangerman

No worries
Biden will do it
Younthink trump’s got a retort planned?

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I will donate to the Democratic candidate of Wallace’s choice if he says it anyway.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 29, 2020 • 10:59:08am

re: #44 dangerman

No worries
Biden will do it
Younthink trump’s got a retort planned?

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“It would have been much, much worse under a Democrat president!”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:01:49am
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Teukka  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:02:03am

So this caught me eye in mah feeds:

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:02:17am

Liars gonna lie.

Democratic nominee Joe Biden’s campaign pushed back on Tuesday against the Trump campaign’s claims alleging that Biden had requested breaks during the upcoming debate on Tuesday night and that his campaign had agreed to allowing a third party to check both his and Trump’s ears for electronic transmitters. TPM

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danarchy  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:03:31am

re: #44 dangerman

No worries
Biden will do it
Younthink trump’s got a retort planned?

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Not a reporter, no source cited, formerly worked for Hillary for America, I am guessing this is satire-ish

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:03:45am

re: #31 Belafon

“Trump never uses the bathroom!”

Well, Joe can always use a handy cup under the podium: after all, wasn’t Trump DEMANDING a urine sample like, only yesterday?

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Teukka  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:04:27am

re: #50 Teukka

Person is Catholic nun Sister Joan Chittister.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:05:38am
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A Cranky One  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:06:16am

I hope that Biden announces during the debate that he’s agreeable to a drug test, if done right then and Trump participates. Rump won’t be expecting that and will probably be doped to the gills on Adderall.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:07:26am
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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:08:15am

re: #54 Teukka

Person is Catholic nun Sister Joan Chittister.

OK, a nun calling out “pro-life” hypocrisy:

So not a “Real Catholic”, then??
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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:09:14am
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ericblair  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:09:34am

Liars. It’s got to be way more than $40 million.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:10:36am

So embarrassed here: Did not instantly recall the rule that any and all claims from the Trump campaign about Biden are always false.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:10:46am

Ruler of Kuwait is dead at 91.

State television announced his death on Tuesday after reciting Muslim prayers and Quranic verses.

Hours later, the National Assembly Speaker Marzouq Al Ghanim tweeted that his brother Sheikh Nawaf, 83, would be sworn in on Wednesday by taking an oath in parliament.

The news of Sheikh Sabah’s death comes just two months after the nonagenarian Arab ruler was flown to Rochester, Minnesota, in a U.S. Air Force C-17 for treatment at the Mayo Clinic,days after undergoing unspecified surgery at home.

Kuwait has been a staunch U.S. ally since the American-led war that expelled occupying Iraqi troops.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:12:29am

re: #50 Teukka

I got into it on a Facebook post trashing Joe for wanting all the babieeeesss dead. I asked the dude if he was pro contraception, and for programs that help feed, clothe, house, and educate all those babies. Because that could lower the abortion rate significantly if he’s so worried about it. I also asked him if he realizes that some rape victims who are forced to have those babies have to endure their rapists petitioning for custody and visitation. And is it really ok for a rapist to have a hand in child rearing. And that if he’s against helping families and for rapists being parents, he’s anything but pro life. His response? Still waiting…it’s been 24 hours…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:12:41am

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

So embarrassed here: Did not instantly recall the rule that any and all claims from the Trump campaign about Biden are always false.

We all forget something sometimes.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:13:10am

re: #4 lawhawk

That’s an effective rate of 32.75%. Which seems about right to me.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:14:06am

re: #60 ericblair

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Liars. It’s got to be way more than $40 million.

Is it possible that he split the proceeds with Trump? Or did it all go to his personal pocketbook as Lincoln Project suggested?

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:15:23am

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:17:30am
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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:18:02am

re: #65 KGxvi

That’s an effective rate of 32.75%. Which seems about right to me.

Yup. One of the main ways to bring down your effective tax rate is if you’ve got a lot of cap gains and losses, and that doesn’t appear to be the case with Biden. There’s ordinary income and royalties, which are treated same as ordinary income.

Trump’s got NOLs up the wazoo (legal term), and self dealing, and claiming expenses that are not valid, and seeks a massive refund that isn’t warranted. We know he’s self dealing and engaging in money laundering to keep his business afloat. The entire thing is a house of cards and a shell game to stay one step ahead of the tax authorities. Someone else in his claimed position (a billionaire) would normally see a tax bill in the millions of dollars. What’s worse is that we know he’s paid a bunch of tax to other foreign jurisdictions, while paying no tax here. That’s odd too.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:19:11am

re: #67 plansbandc

What if their getting back together was what caused the virus.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:19:17am

re: #60 ericblair

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Liars. It’s got to be way more than $40 million.

Brad stole from Trump before Trump could steal it himself, how rude.

Trump did get all of the inauguration monies though.

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:19:45am

re: #70 Belafon

Uh oh.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:20:07am

Money laundering. Fraud. Crime syndicate.

That’s Trumpworld. He picks all the best people. Parscale is still involved in the Trump campaign. He may be former campaign manager (all prior campaign managers have either been prosecuted, took deals, or are under investigation), but he’s still running the online ops for Trumpworld. He’s the Senior Digital Adviser.

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:20:20am

re: #62 lawhawk

Ruler of Kuwait is dead at 91.

So the late 91-year-old Emir was succeeded by his 83-year-old half-brother?
I guess that’s what counts as a “youth movement” among Arab royalty.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:20:57am

re: #41 Teddy’s Person ✌

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A member of the British Parliament nominated Joe.

This will roll right off Trump. Water under the bridge. ////////////

Real nomination vs Trump’s fake nominations?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:21:17am

re: #69 lawhawk

….What’s worse is that we know he’s paid a bunch of tax to other foreign jurisdictions, while paying no tax here. That’s odd too.

To be fair, the foreign taxes, while significant compared to US taxes, were very modest compared to his supposed income.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:23:46am

re: #69 lawhawk

Yup. One of the main ways to bring down your effective tax rate is if you’ve got a lot of cap gains and losses, and that doesn’t appear to be the case with Biden. There’s ordinary income and royalties, which are treated same as ordinary income.

Trump’s got NOLs up the wazoo (legal term), and self dealing, and claiming expenses that are not valid, and seeks a massive refund that isn’t warranted. We know he’s self dealing and engaging in money laundering to keep his business afloat. The entire thing is a house of cards and a shell game to stay one step ahead of the tax authorities. Someone else in his claimed position (a billionaire) would normally see a tax bill in the millions of dollars. What’s worse is that we know he’s paid a bunch of tax to other foreign jurisdictions, while paying no tax here. That’s odd too.

I still don’t get why we treat long term capital gains (with the possible exception of primary residence sales) differently than regular income. That simple change to the tax code probably solves a lot of our problems, more so than having 40 brackets like we did in the 50s.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:23:47am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:24:43am

re: #78 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

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Next Trump will complain that Biden prepared for the debate.

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danarchy  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:25:49am

re: #75 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Real nomination vs Trump’s fake nominations?

fake nominations? The nominations are all real, the likelihood of them going anywhere are near 0. Apparently Trump got a third nomination from a group of australian professors.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:26:39am

re: #31 Belafon

“Trump never uses the bathroom!”

paraphrasing george carlin
“nixon looks like he hasnt taken a shit in a year”

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Interesting Times  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:28:04am

Paging A Mom Anon:

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:28:46am

re: #54 Teukka

Person is Catholic nun Sister Joan Chittister.

A sister of the Busly Persuasion.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:29:41am

re: #82 Interesting Times

Paging A Mom Anon:

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Georgia is going to play the role of 2008 Virginia in this election imo.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:29:45am

re: #60 ericblair

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Liars. It’s got to be way more than $40 million.

interesting that campaign manager has direct access to funds and could skim $40m without anyone knowing (or at least caring till now)

normally there would be separation of duties on that

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:30:32am

re: #77 KGxvi

I still don’t get why we treat long term capital gains (with the possible exception of primary residence sales) differently than regular income. That simple change to the tax code probably solves a lot of our problems, more so than having 40 brackets like we did in the 50s.

If you’re repping the millionaires who lend their voice to amend the IRC, you want to preserve the key vehicle to your wealth growth - long term cap gains. You want those treated differently, because their value allows you to invest and grow your wealth with minimal effort.

There’s a predisposition to thinking that long term investing is good for the economy and you want to encourage that over churn and rapid selling.

But that doesn’t get to the core issue of why we treat the income differently and what would happen if we started treating it like ordinary income. People would still invest and make money. But more would be taxed and the computation of tax would be easier (eliminates the separate computation for long term gains/losses short term gains/losses).

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:30:43am

re: #66 Hecuba’s daughter

Is it possible that he split the proceeds with Trump? Or did it all go to his personal pocketbook as Lincoln Project suggested?

Well, he was/is paying Lara Trump and the lovely Kimberly, so who knows where else the money is going (beside yachts, cars, etc.)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:31:44am
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:32:33am

I’ll probably change my mind, but I can not watch that fat orange bastard lie for 90 minutes. I’ll just trust you all here and read the commentary as it happens in real time.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:32:58am
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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:34:59am

re: #89 Ace Rothstein

I’ll probably change my mind, but I can not watch that fat orange bastard lie for 90 minutes. I’ll just trust you all here and read the commentary as it happens in real time.

Well, one of us is going to have to bite the bullet.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:35:09am

re: #87 BeachDem

Well, he was/is paying Lara Trump and the lovely Kimberly, so who knows where else the money is going (beside yachts, cars, etc.)

if i recall, he got the funds to pay lara et al out of the campaign via billings from his llc.

trump had to know this how his family was being paid, of course.

if parscale got however much more up to the 40m out through other fraudulent billing, that the campaign approved, well, he just learned that technique from trump

if he literally raided bank accounts, i still dont see how. it would have taken months…. was no one watching the numbers?

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retired cynic  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:36:17am

re: #82 Interesting Times

Paging A Mom Anon:

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Yay for the trend! Hoping for the result!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:36:19am

re: #85 dangerman

interesting that campaign manager has direct access to funds and could skim $40m without anyone knowing (or at least caring till now)

normally there would be separation of duties on that

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Brad was handling payouts that Trump didn’t want to do directly, which is why he’s still around, and was able to skim millions for himself. When your boss is shady and stupid, it’s easy to get away with a lot.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:36:21am
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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:36:35am

re: #14 (((Archangel1)))

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If Team Yam wants ear inspections, that means they have definitely figured out a way to achieve the function of an earpiece without the ear piece. Maybe one of those bonephones, or maybe suppository style since 90% of what he says is pulled straight out of his ass.

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wrenchwench  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:37:17am

re: #89 Ace Rothstein

I’ll probably change my mind, but I can not watch that fat orange bastard lie for 90 minutes. I’ll just trust you all here and read the commentary as it happens in real time.

I’ll read it tomorrow. Tonight, I’ll slice a half pound of orange chicken in commemoration, maybe some pork, too. I’ll scrub the floor with a thing that vaguely resembles the presidential scalp adornment.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:37:32am

re: #84 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Georgia is going to play the role of 2008 Virginia in this election imo.

Or maybe Ohio

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:37:58am

re: #86 lawhawk

If you’re repping the millionaires who lend their voice to amend the IRC, you want to preserve the key vehicle to your wealth growth - long term cap gains. You want those treated differently, because their value allows you to invest and grow your wealth with minimal effort.

There’s a predisposition to thinking that long term investing is good for the economy and you want to encourage that over churn and rapid selling.

But that doesn’t get to the core issue of why we treat the income differently and what would happen if we started treating it like ordinary income. People would still invest and make money. But more would be taxed and the computation of tax would be easier (eliminates the separate computation for long term gains/losses short term gains/losses).

With respect to publicly traded companies, is there really a difference between long term investing and day trading? I get that it makes sense with respect to privately held corporations (but in most cases, those businesses are always thinking long term). As gittery as the stock market has been the last 30 years, it rarely feels like anyone (other than investment funds) are actually involved in long term investments.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:38:04am

re: #85 dangerman

interesting that campaign manager has direct access to funds and could skim $40m without anyone knowing (or at least caring till now)

normally there would be separation of duties on that

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Brad better make sure he doesn’t get thrown out of any hospital windows soon.

That was Trump & Putin’s money to steal, not Brad’s.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:40:32am

I really hope tonights debate doesn’t degenerate in to “Old men yelling at each other 2020”

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:41:31am

Llre: #98 BeachDem

Or maybe Ohio

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I’m comparing to Virginia since we’re both southern and have been more historically Republican. I definitely think Biden can win Ohio too.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:41:41am

re: #98 BeachDem

Or maybe Ohio

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There’s a few states on that list this year.

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b_sharp  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:43:18am

re: #33 plansbandc

Diapers keep him on the go!

Ewwww.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:43:29am
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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:45:41am
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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:46:02am

I’ve been equally surprised about how stable the race has been and how many states seem to be in play.

I really wonder if the field hadn’t been cleared for Clinton in the primary (meaning there had been another establishment type Dem instead of Bernie as a competitor) if that other person might have won the nomination and then whooped Trump’s ass in the general.

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:46:30am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Felonious Monks.
White Stripes and Prison Garb
Tool
Salacious Crumb and the Mango Jam

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:47:04am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Mothers of Convention.

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Interesting Times  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:49:33am

re: #103 KGxvi

There’s a few states on that list this year.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:49:40am
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A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:49:41am

re: #82 Interesting Times

Yesssss! All we need is turnout. Stacy Abrams and Fair Fight have been working hard here, for about a year, to get registration and turnout up and educate people about voting in person and with mail in ballots. I’m in the metro suburbs, north of the city and it’s very red here, but any vote in the Dem column is fine by me. As of February we had 7.2 million registered voters in GA. There were 5.4 million registered in 2016. Around a million voted for the Democratic candidates in the senate primaries which is triple the amount previously. We’re getting there but it’s an uphill slog. Turnout and having a plan are key.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:53:14am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

The Well Below Average White Band.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:54:05am

re: #62 lawhawk

Ruler of Kuwait is dead at 91.

Good to see they went with someone younger and full of vigor.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:55:32am

re: #106 🌹UOJB!

They look more like the chaperones at a church dance reminding kids to leave space for the Holy Spirit when they slow dance…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:55:58am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:57:03am

re: #114 Eventual Carrion

Good to see they went with someone younger and full of vigor.

I believe it’s a family ascension thing, next in line pretty much has to get it no matter how old he is. We’ll see a similar situation unfold whenever King Charles takes the throne in England.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:57:24am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Five Finger Death Punch

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:59:00am

Sh*t’s getting serious!

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Kilroy was here  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:59:08am

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Dire Straights

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 11:59:32am

Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:00:25pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

The Damned.

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ericblair  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:01:14pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:01:16pm

Competition is fierce but I do think this may be the craziest 2020 thing yet, in terms of flat-out inexplicably batshit conduct from important and allegedly rational enterprises

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piratedan  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:01:31pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

Republican Foreplay

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:01:37pm

re: #121 jaunte

[Eric Trump has now clarified that he IS NOT part of the LGBTQ community after televised remarks in which he appeared to claim he was.

Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

Punxsutawney Phil came out for longer than that.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:01:41pm

re: #84 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Georgia is going to play the role of 2008 Virginia in this election imo.

Georgia flipping would only be bested by Texas flipping in terms of the political earthquake it would represent.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:02:46pm
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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:03:20pm

re: #112 A Mom Anon

Yesssss! All we need is turnout. Stacy Abrams and Fair Fight have been working hard here, for about a year, to get registration and turnout up and educate people about voting in person and with mail in ballots. I’m in the metro suburbs, north of the city and it’s very red here, but any vote in the Dem column is fine by me. As of February we had 7.2 million registered voters in GA. There were 5.4 million registered in 2016. Around a million voted for the Democratic candidates in the senate primaries which is triple the amount previously. We’re getting there but it’s an uphill slog. Turnout and having a plan are key.

I fervently hope you are right, though Georgia has always seemed (in this campaign, anyway) a don’t-get-your-hopes-too-far-up state; mainly because:

A) Gov. Kemp and the whole of the GA GOP apparatus do not seem (and have never seemed) reluctant to employ any and every form of election fuckery to try to sway the results.
B) though Z): see point A).

I hope you are right about the turnout point, though: close races are a hell of lot easier to steal than blowouts. And see point A) above…

One question, though about GA: why have they gone to a “jungle” ballot - with runoff - for the Senate “special” race? I mean, I can understand the reasoning (i.e. Dems will splinter their vote, and two GOPers can end up in the final), but it just seems odd that one contest (Purdue-Ossoff “A” race) was run on a regular primary/partisan basis (?was it?) , and the “B” seat on different rules altogether.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:04:47pm

I would pay to go to a wildlife park with this theme.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:05:43pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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The Jackass Five.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:06:27pm

re: #130 jaunte

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I would pay to go to a wildlife park with this theme.

I was thinking Presidential Debate Moderator.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:06:33pm

re: #124 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Competition is fierce but I do think this may be the craziest 2020 thing yet, in terms of flat-out inexplicably batshit conduct from important and allegedly rational enterprises

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Reminds me of the Ambridge school board members in 1972 who burned books by Kurt Vonnegut…AND a book of dress design patterns called…”Making It With Mademoiselle” just because of the “offensive” title…

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:07:03pm

re: #130 jaunte

Fuck that. /

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garzooma  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:07:36pm

re: #133 🌹UOJB!

Reminds me of the Ambridge school board members in 1972 who burned books by Kurt Vonnegut…AND a book of dress design patterns called…”Making It With Mademoiselle” just because of the “offensive” title…

Phrasing!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:07:37pm

re: #130 jaunte

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I would pay to go to a wildlife park with this theme.

*squawk* Fuck 2020! *squawk*

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:07:43pm

re: #130 jaunte

[Five foul-mouthed parrots have been removed from public view at a British wildlife park after they started swearing at customers

I would pay to go to a wildlife park with this theme.

Shame. They’ll probably stop re-homing pets from the Home for Retired Mariners.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:08:29pm

They should bring the birds back together and see if any new swears develop.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:08:57pm

re: #121 jaunte

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Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

bye eric, we hardly knew ye

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:09:43pm

re: #139 dangerman

bye eric, we hardly knew ye

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Which is good, because I would be worried about what someone could catch from him.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:09:44pm

re: #130 jaunte

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I would pay to go to a wildlife park with this theme.

question is did the customers deserve it?

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:10:19pm

re: #130 jaunte

I heard they were rehomed to a traveling kindergarten petting zoo.

//

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:10:49pm

GAHHH. Getting an email from the megachurch I used to attend:

Division is rampant in America, but it does not need to dictate America’s future. We, as the Church, need to stand up together in unity for the principles of God’s Word in this nation. As we do, we need to pray for and expect an awakening from heaven to rock America. It’s through an awakening that America will step toward healing.

One way we stand up for God’s Word is through voting on the basis of which party platform best aligns with God’s Word. The platform is a standard of principles that their endorsed candidates should govern by; the platform that more closely aligns with God’s Word is the one that will strengthen America.

You wouldn’t know God’s Word if it bit you in the ass, you prosperity gospel sons of Pharisees.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:10:58pm

re: #141 dangerman

I think calling the parrots “foul mouthed” is unfair. They were “home-schooled.”

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:11:51pm
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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:12:21pm

re: #144 jaunte

I think calling the parrots “foul mouthed” is unfair. They were “home-schooled.”

Why isn’t it “fowl mouthed”?

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:13:29pm

re: #146 Belafon

Why isn’t it “fowl mouthed”?

Because they’re too chicken to call it that?
(or just want to duck the issue?)

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garzooma  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:14:40pm

re: #133 🌹UOJB!

Reminds me of the Ambridge school board members in 1972 who burned books by Kurt Vonnegut…AND a book of dress design patterns called…”Making It With Mademoiselle” just because of the “offensive” title…

I’ll add that I had a similar puerile reaction to a Scientific American cover a few years back “How The Dinosaurs Got Lucky”.

Image: 51bSpZJw6tL._SX376_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

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lawhawk  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:15:23pm

There’s a dissertation to be had that Trump’s foreign policy is all about what other countries can do for Trump personally. National security or outcomes are irrelevant. It’s about the photo ops and benefit to Trump personally.

We see that with the so called deals with Israel and UAE and Qatar. We’re seeing that with proposed deals with Sudan.

Israel would see the same dynamic with Bibi trying to pull a rabbit out of the hat while under indictment.

Two corrupt thugs who are trying to remain in power by cutting deals that don’t survive close scrutiny. In the case of Sudan, it’s worse than that because Sudan is a state supporter of terrorism *like Iran* and Trump’s going to throw nearly a billion dollars at them because they might normalize relations with Israel.

Of course, this also reveals the entire farce that is the Arab Israeli conflict too. It’s manufactured conflict.

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wrenchwench  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:25:48pm

Looks like a service lamb.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:27:32pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:29:04pm

Obnoxious Parrot (Re-post from a couple of years ago):

David received a parrot for his birthday. This parrot was fully grown with a bad attitude and worse vocabulary. Every other word was an expletive. Those that weren’t expletives were, to say the least, rude.

David tried hard to change the bird’s attitude and was constantly saying polite words, playing soft music, and anything else that came to mind. Nothing worked. He yelled at the bird and the bird got worse. He shook the bird and the bird got madder and ruder.

Finally, in a moment of desperation, David put the parrot in the freezer. For a few moments he heard the bird squawking, kicking and screaming and then, suddenly, all was quiet.

David, frightened that he might have actually hurt the bird, quickly opened the freezer door. The parrot calmly stepped out onto David’s extended arm and said, “I’m sorry that I offended you with my language and actions. I ask for your forgiveness.”

David was astounded at the bird’s change in attitude and was about to ask what changed him when the parrot continued, “May I ask what the chicken did?”

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piratedan  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:29:23pm

re: #141 dangerman

only if they had signed up for Abuse, Arguments are down the hall 1st door on the left…

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:29:40pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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Amy and the Putin Cats

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wrenchwench  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:34:14pm
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sagehen  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:40:46pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

I believe it’s a family ascension thing, next in line pretty much has to get it no matter how old he is. We’ll see a similar situation unfold whenever King Charles takes the throne in England.

If Charles really wants to strengthen the monarchy, he’ll step aside and let William be next in line.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:45:35pm

re: #129 Jay C

Loeffler took Johnny Isakson’s seat after he retired last year and was appointed by Kemp to fill that seat. Isakson has cancer and was unable to complete his term. Hence the crazy stupid race for his seat. Because Georgia.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:46:11pm

A Tweet for every occasion:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:48:21pm

re: #44 dangerman

No worries
Biden will do it
Younthink trump’s got a retort planned?

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It would not surprise me if Trump claimed that there have only been 12k covid fatalities.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:53:25pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:53:31pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

Paging A Mom Anon:

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Good news!

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:53:33pm

re: #158 b.d. (Competence 2020!)

A Tweet for every occasion:

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Does Trump remember that?

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sagehen  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:54:44pm

re: #123 ericblair

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Yis’ga’dal v’yis’kadash sh’may ra’bbo, b’olmo dee’vro chir’usay v’yamlich malchu’say, b’chayaychon uv’yomay’chon uv’chayay d’chol bais Yisroel, ba’agolo u’viz’man koriv; v’imru Omein.
Y’hay shmay rabbo m’vorach l’olam ul’olmay olmayo.
Yisborach v’yishtabach v’yispoar v’yisromam v’yismasay, v’yishador v’yis’aleh v’yisalal, shmay d’kudsho, brich hu, l’aylo min kl birchoso v’sheeroso, tush’bechoso v’nechemoso, da,ameeran b’olmo; vimru Omein.
Y’hay shlomo rabbo min sh’mayo, v’chayim alaynu v’al kol Yisroel; v’imru Omein.
Oseh sholom bimromov, hu ya’aseh sholom olaynu, v’al kol yisroel; vimru Omein.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:55:44pm

re: #113 A Mom Anon

The Well Below Average White Band.

Heartless

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A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:56:46pm

re: #164 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Lead Zeppelin

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Kilroy was here  Sep 29, 2020 • 12:59:57pm

re: #164 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Heartless

White Zombies

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:00:35pm

re: #89 Ace Rothstein

I’ll probably change my mind, but I can not watch that fat orange bastard lie for 90 minutes. I’ll just trust you all here and read the commentary as it happens in real time.

I would rather listen to Fran Drescher’s voice than Trump’s nasal whine.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:02:03pm

Now following.

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danarchy  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:06:00pm

re: #168 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Now following.

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There is no way that handle wasn’t already in use. I wonder if they had to pay someone for it. Is there twitter handle squatting like domain squatting?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:06:34pm

re: #167 BlueSpotinAL

I would rather listen to Fran Drescher’s voice than Trump’s nasal whine.

Yeah, I have a visceral reaction—nausea, really— to Trump’s voice.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:08:14pm
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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:09:08pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

The Mothers and the Fuckers

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A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:09:45pm

re: #170 Barefoot Grin

I hate his voice and his stupid face, but I am watching because I want to see him squirm and whine. He’s not going to come out of this looking even remotely good. He’s a whiny little shit, and I am hoping for a complete meltdown on live TV. I never watch that asshole ever, but I want to see Joe smack him all around the debate stage.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:10:41pm

re: #138 jaunte

They should bring the birds back together and see if any new swears develop.

They could have the birds listen to the Samuel L Jackson voice on Alexa. Which I bought by the way.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:10:55pm

Volunteers must be able to type at a minimum of 200 WPM.

/

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:11:44pm

re: #175 Eclectic Cyborg

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Volunteers must be able to type at a minimum of 200 WPM.

/

And have all human knowledge memorized.

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:12:31pm

re: #168 NO SMOCKING GUN!

PoliticsVideoChannel
@politvidchannel
BREAKING: Biden campaign has created a twitter account called @truth, to fact check Trump during the debate

How could it possibly be that some wingnut hadn’t grabbed that handle already? Seems like one in ten already has the word truth in their name.

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:14:25pm

re: #176 Belafon

And have all human knowledge memorized.

And play well with others.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:20:59pm

Everyone working together:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:22:39pm

re: #179 Belafon

Everyone working together:

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Dogs, cats, we all have to live together in this country. We can’t live at all, much less together, if we have Donald J. Trump as President.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:24:50pm

re: #164 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Heartless

No Credence Dirtywater Revival

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:26:06pm

Ratcliffe is a Rat Copulator. They’re getting more and more desperate.

Keep it up people.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:27:13pm

re: #168 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Now following.

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Also

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:28:33pm

re: #60 ericblair

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:29:02pm

re: #183 BeachDem

Also

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or simply apply “everything that guy said is bullshit”

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:32:01pm

re: #179 Belafon

Everyone working together:

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Wow. Sully—what a message; what a voice.

And all we have to do is
Vote. Him. Out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:32:02pm

I think I’ll maybe stay off social media after the debate…

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:33:05pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

Paging A Mom Anon:

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Civiqs also has biden up:

GEORGIA: Biden 50%, Trump 47%

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:35:22pm

nymag

“The strategy was to convert Fred Trump’s fortune into publicity, which Donald could then monetize. The lies used to construct Trump’s image were massive. In 1984, Donald concocted a series of lies to persuade Forbes he was worth $900 million. Its reporter, Jonathan Greenberg, diligently unraveled every exaggeration and reduced the published sum to $100 million, only to discover decades later that the actual amount was a mere $5 million. The power of the lie was its scale. Greenberg could imagine Trump was exaggerating his wealth tenfold, but the idea he was exaggerating it 180-fold beggared imagination.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:36:30pm

re: #116 Eclectic Cyborg

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:36:57pm

re: #37 danarchy

Huh, does that mean Trump wears a diaper, or maybe a catheter?

I would say a colostomy bag, but with Trump, that would be redundant.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:38:20pm
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mmmirele  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:40:05pm

re: #143 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

GAHHH. Getting an email from the megachurch I used to attend:

You wouldn’t know God’s Word if it bit you in the ass, you prosperity gospel sons of Pharisees.

Did you shoot an email back?

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:40:18pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

The Trending Downward. (which I actually think is a pretty cool ironic band name)

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:42:49pm

re: #192 jaunte

The biggest fear almost everyone seems to have about tonight is that Joe winds up spending all his time combatting Trump’s lies. Biden has to almost ignore him and just get his message out.

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:47:19pm

fwiw, way back whenever, wouldn’t you think it was trump himself who hired or at least approved of parscale?

he hired the guy who “stole” $40M from his campaign and the rnc

he certainly was the one who made the announcement to the press

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:49:02pm

re: #193 mmmirele

Did you shoot an email back?

It’s a megachurch. They don’t even know I exist. They have no idea I left them over 10 years ago now. Emailing them would be like a fart in the Holy Wind.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:54:21pm

re: #196 dangerman

fwiw, way back whenever, wouldn’t you think it was trump himself who hired or at least approved of parscale?

he hired the guy who “stole” $40M from his campaign and the rnc

he certainly was the one who made the announcement to the press

From 2016:

On Brad Parscale:

For starters, like Trump, he’s a political novice who has built a professional reputation for himself in Texas but has never worked in Washington…

He began by cold-calling local clients but soon graduated to major contracts with the likes of the Trump Organization, which led to gigs building websites for Trump Winery and the Eric Trump Foundation.
wired.com

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee hired Parscale in 2012 to build a website for Trump International Realty. Parscale went on to work on sites for Trump Winery, the Eric Trump Foundation and a site for Trump’s wife, Melania.
mysanantonio.com

Sound like they first used Parscale because he had low overhead, being in San Antonio—not sure how they found them.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 1:55:56pm
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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:01:39pm

re: #199 NO SMOCKING GUN!

burn

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:05:18pm

re: #196 dangerman

fwiw, way back whenever, wouldn’t you think it was trump himself who hired or at least approved of parscale?

he hired the guy who “stole” $40M from his campaign and the rnc

he certainly was the one who made the announcement to the press

Everyone in Trumpland is corrupt as fuck. Trump can’t get decent people to work for him anymore so he has to settle for people who are just as manipulative and crooked as he his. It’s the “Dog eat Dog” administration.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:07:22pm

re: #195 stpaulbear

The biggest fear almost everyone seems to have about tonight is that Joe winds up spending all his time combatting Trump’s lies. Biden has to almost ignore him and just get his message out.

It can be a no-win situation. Trump will promote outrageous lies about Biden and Hunter. If Biden tries to address the lies, he won’t have time to talk about anything else; if he doesn’t, Trump will double-down and tell the audience that Biden could not respond because he knows that the allegations are true.

Maybe Biden could go with “I’m going to talk about the future and not respond to the lies that Trump is spewing” but then Trump will revert to his 2016 “you’re the puppet” defense: “Biden is coming out of his basement to lie about me; he’s a tired old man who spends all his time hiding out there and then just reads from a teleprompter lies scripted for him by his staff”.

Chris Wallace has made clear that he won’t fact check anyone; so Biden has a real challenge ahead of him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:10:20pm

Meh I’m not worried about tonight. One person is going to look presidential tonight and it’s not going to be the person who holds the title.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:13:32pm

re: #195 stpaulbear

The biggest fear almost everyone seems to have about tonight is that Joe winds up spending all his time combatting Trump’s lies. Biden has to almost ignore him and just get his message out.

Maybe you have a night where the point is to show that Trump is unfit to be president. This election is a referendum on Trump.

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KGxvi  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:15:21pm

re: #204 Belafon

Maybe you have a night where the point is to show that Trump is unfit to be president. This election is a referendum on Trump.

Agreed. As I’ve ben saying, Biden needs some sort of “there you go again” type line. Or something like “look, he doesn’t have an answer to this problem because he’s in over his head… here’s what we need to do…”

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:17:53pm

re: #198 BeachDem

From 2016:

On Brad Parscale:

For starters, like Trump, he’s a political novice who has built a professional reputation for himself in Texas but has never worked in Washington…

He began by cold-calling local clients but soon graduated to major contracts with the likes of the Trump Organization, which led to gigs building websites for Trump Winery and the Eric Trump Foundation.
wired.com

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee hired Parscale in 2012 to build a website for Trump International Realty. Parscale went on to work on sites for Trump Winery, the Eric Trump Foundation and a site for Trump’s wife, Melania.
mysanantonio.com

Sound like they first used Parscale because he had low overhead, being in San Antonio—not sure how they found them.

IIRC, as part of his duties as IT for the Trump 2016 campaign, Parscale was signed off for 10,000 motel stays in Texas. Even then that was suggested to have a Russian connection.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:17:56pm

re: #89 Ace Rothstein

That’s my game plan too.
I may have the TV on with the sound muted.
Reading real time comments here is the only way I can tolerate the Orange One.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:18:56pm

re: #205 KGxvi

Agreed. As I’ve ben saying, Biden needs some sort of “there you go again” type line. Or something like “look, he doesn’t have an answer to this problem because he’s in over his head… here’s what we need to do…”

Yeah a good one liner might work here. I ain’t worried about Biden being able to handle Trump. Trumps gonna bs as he always does. Joe just needs to be Joe and that’s fine.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:30:49pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

? and the Authoritarians

Hit song: 96 (Liberal) Tears

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mmmirele  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:43:07pm

re: #197 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s a megachurch. They don’t even know I exist. They have no idea I left them over 10 years ago now. Emailing them would be like a fart in the Holy Wind.

Yeah, I know. You get more attention with a protest in front of their busiest entrance.

There’s a whole nest of “prophets” who live in a town south of the Phoenix area in Pinal county. One “prophet” moved recently (as within 2020 recently) from SC and another from Alaska. Anyway, I keep a close eyes on these guys because they are whack.

Behind the lock and key…

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:49:56pm

re: #206 Decatur Deb

IIRC, as part of his duties as IT for the Trump 2016 campaign, Parscale was signed off for 10,000 motel stays in Texas. Even then that was suggested to have a Russian connection.

At least according to Parscale, who we know is a trusted, honest player.

“We spent nearly $100 million in the course of the campaign with our operation based in San Antonio, and a ton of that money was spent in San Antonio on campaign-related employment, thousands of hotel rooms, all kinds of economic activity,” Parscale said.

sanantonioreport.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2020 • 2:52:13pm

re: #169 danarchy

There is no way that handle wasn’t already in use. I wonder if they had to pay someone for it. Is there twitter handle squatting like domain squatting?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 4:03:17pm

re: #152 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Obnoxious Parrot (Re-post from a couple of years ago):

David received a parrot for his birthday. This parrot was fully grown with a bad attitude and worse vocabulary. Every other word was an expletive. Those that weren’t expletives were, to say the least, rude.

David tried hard to change the bird’s attitude and was constantly saying polite words, playing soft music, and anything else that came to mind. Nothing worked. He yelled at the bird and the bird got worse. He shook the bird and the bird got madder and ruder.

Finally, in a moment of desperation, David put the parrot in the freezer. For a few moments he heard the bird squawking, kicking and screaming and then, suddenly, all was quiet.

David, frightened that he might have actually hurt the bird, quickly opened the freezer door. The parrot calmly stepped out onto David’s extended arm and said, “I’m sorry that I offended you with my language and actions. I ask for your forgiveness.”

David was astounded at the bird’s change in attitude and was about to ask what changed him when the parrot continued, “May I ask what the chicken did?”

The sons got together and decided to give their mother a surprise for her birthday. They found the perfect gift: a parrot that spoke Yiddish! Wanting to please their mother, they purchased the bird for an exorbitant sum and presented it to her at a birthday party.

A few days later, the oldest son went over to see how Mom was enjoying her new pet. As usual, the house was full of the wonderful aroma of cooking. When Mom answered the door, he asked her “how do you like the parrot we got you?”

“Oh, it should be done now. Do you want to stay for dinner?”


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