For starters, this isn’t a real debate. I was a high school debate team nerd and this is nothing like a real debate; it’s a made-for-TV high-stakes game show. But hey, it’s what we got, so I’m gonna grit my teeth, watch the circus, and make snarky sarcastic comments below.
President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden participate in the first 2020 presidential debate in Cleveland, OH. c-span.org
The theme song of the ages 🎶 @marcrebillet pic.twitter.com/yxEPboo1cu
— Mark Ruffalo (@MarkRuffalo) September 25, 2020
Okay, everyone get the booze ready so we can make it through this!
re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg
It’s nap-time for me.
Alcohol nauseates me. My beverage of this evening is cherry-lime LaCroix seltzer.
re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg
Okay, everyone get the booze ready so we can make it through this!
Wayyyy ahead of you.
all of the trump wimmin look chonky tonight
re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth
all of the trump wimmin look chonky tonight
How many people are allowed in the venue?
re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth
all of the trump wimmin look chonky tonight
And they’re not LIKE the evil stepsister, they ARE the evil stepsisters.
Some more good news ahead of the debate…
BREAKING: New polling shows we have TAKEN THE LEAD!
The path to retaking the Senate runs through Georgia. Help us win in November: https://t.co/Nte99j1b66— Reverend Raphael Warnock (@ReverendWarnock) September 29, 2020
LaCroix tastes like it flavored with fruit ghosts.
Hey everyone. Sorry it’s been so long. Just hard to type on this phone and ny kid has computer priorty
Are they both going to be in the same room or is Joe broadcasting from a different venue?
Ok, ok, I’ll upgrade. https://t.co/I3NGrPnmpw
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) September 30, 2020
I wouldn’t trust the social distancing with that crowd. You know where they’ve been.
White people. Fix this. Come on.
(Looks at white Trump voters in SCOWL)
DEBATE CPMMENTARY:
1/Trump entourage just entered room and immediately removed their masks. They are sitting next to Jill Biden. This is a danger to anyone trying to stop the spread of covid.— Jill Wine-Banks (@JillWineBanks) September 30, 2020
After my little strokes, and with some advice from one of the physical therapists, I’m rarely drinking on “school nights” anymore.
I can’t drink while watching the shitshow—I already feel nauseated.
Candidates will not shake hands, just give each other dirty looks.
CHRIS WALLACE YOU FUCK THIS UP I SWEAR TO THE JESUS I BREAK YOUR FUCKING NECK #PresidentialDebate2020
— The Iron Sheik (@the_ironsheik) September 30, 2020
Howdy from Colorado! Tuning in for my usual though infrequent debate commentary. Hope all is well with everyone, and may God/Jah/Allah/Mother Earth help us all!
re: #30 Dave In Austin
I bought some cookie dough today. To just eat the cookie dough, of course.
Among the million or so other things that bug me about media coverage of this debate is the seemingly inflexible canard that “Trump’s campaign in 2016 was collapsing before the first debate” - I really don’t remember it that way.
re: #39 Jay C
Was it just after the cat tape came out?
He looks like he put on his makeup with a sandblaster.
re: #44 BeachDem
He looks like he put on his makeup with a sandblaster.
When does he not look like that?
“We won the election.” That should come as a total shock to the House Repubs…
re: #44 BeachDem
He looks like he put on his makeup with a sandblaster.
But does his hair look like $70,000?
re: #42 Ace Rothstein
Was it just after the cat tape came out?
Yeah, the one that supposedly “derailed” his campaign
re: #19 The Pie Overlord!
I LIKE IT so shutup.
My taste buds are burnt out like a libertine aristocrat struggling harder and harder to find their next thrill, so each to their own. These days everything’s dusted down with a mix of juniper, black pepper, and urfa biber, and I’m not sure what’s next. Mummy powder and Maggi cubes perhaps.
But I stand by the “fruit ghost” statement as accurate with no intended malice or shade on your tastes.
LOL
Did Satan have a prior commitment? pic.twitter.com/bD5RegGy2D
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) September 30, 2020
I’m gonna grit my teeth…
I hope you’re wearing a goalie’s mouth guard.
SOCIALIST!
That was quicker than I thought.
Happy Birthday Breezy
Birthday Breezy is 4 years old pic.twitter.com/Cjz3MESvFO
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 29, 2020
re: #57 Dave In Austin
Socialism is so bad, every red hat sent their stimulus check back.
re: #14 The Ghost of a Flea
LaCroix tastes like it flavored with fruit ghosts.
Orange is best. then raz-cranberry. coconut is drinkable.
Joe missing the point, IMO on this first question - the provisions of the ACA are irrelevant : Trump made it a political power issue, Joe should have mentioned that Obama had been “elected” as well in 2016
re: #62 Ace Rothstein
Socialism is so bad, every red hat sent their stimulus check back.
Well, it’s been fully established that if the right kind of people get a bail out it’s not socialism.
I seem to recall there being an ideology that in practice was socialism, but only for those in good standing with a nationalist framework….
And he’s already getting on Chris Wallace’s last nerve. And lying like a fucking rug.
It always comes back to what Susan Collins said to justify her vote for Kavanaugh: because Republicans have failed to eliminate Roe v. Wade so far, gullible idiots should believe they will never succeed.
I like that Joe is laughing at him. The yam is going to blow a gasket.
This is fucking unwatchable. Or unlistenable.
Has any sitting President been this combative in an election year debate?
OMG LOL he’s losing. Joe laughing is bringing my joy.
re: #64 steve_davis
See, I can just imagine the Ghibli-style little fruit ghosts that escape the can with that first pop of carbonation….
Joking aside, adding juniper berries into your black pepper grinder is a great idea.
“Insulin is like water”???? Did I just hear that right??
All those undecided suburban white women in Pennsylvania (ha!) must be loving watching President Mansplainer run rampant tonight.
re: #94 The Ghost of a Flea
Joking aside, adding juniper berries into your black pepper grinder is a great idea.
Ok, now I’m trying to think of a joke.
EVERYTHING TRUMP SAYS IS A LIE
End of debate.
Joe is on! Already called him a liar and a clown and we’re only 19 minutes in,
Trump can’t shut his mouth.
What a fucking preening goddamned bully. #PresidentialDebate2020
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
The Moderator that would not Moderate the President.
Apparently he thinks a “win” tonight will be refusing to let Joe talk at all.
Just posted: Donald Trump Paid $750 in Federal Income Taxes in 2017. Here’s the Math From His Tax Return. (Hint: More Than $15 Million in Business Losses.) https://t.co/yXl1Ka7PeV
— Susanne Craig (@susannecraig) September 30, 2020
Looks like my decision to let you guys watch and lose brain cells was the right call!
I hope the other networks will come up with a plan to not allow them to talk over each other like this.
re: #113 Ace Rothstein
Looks like my decision to let you guys watch and lose brain cells was the right call!
Ditto.
re: #113 Ace Rothstein
Looks like my decision to let you guys lose brain cells was the right call!
Me like pie!
re: #113 Ace Rothstein
Looks like my decision to let you guys watch and lose brain cells was the right call!
Yep. I will never willingly watch Trump live.
re: #109 Rightwingconspirator
The President already went nuts, upset that he’s debating the moderator rather than Biden, all because Trump can’t shut his mouth.
re: #113 Ace Rothstein
It’s always the right call. His voice triggers everything for me, so I can’t listen to him.
re: #114 Blizard
I hope the other networks will come up with a plan to not allow them to talk over each other like this.
Short of putting a muzzle on Trump I don’t think it will work.
Trump is going to start babbling and ranting out of turn any minute. You can see it brewing in his tiny brain. https://t.co/jc3826HhCD pic.twitter.com/gevupBDo2c
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 30, 2020
Trump does not like it when Joe ignores him. Keep yappin!
We’re just minutes away from MALARKEY. (Has Van Jones said the yam is acting presidential yet?)
I knew because of the rules this wouldn’t be an actual debate but JFC!!!
I am surprised Chris Wallace didn’t pull the plug already.
We applauded Biden when he told Current Occupant to shut up.
Biden: “Will you shut up, man?”
Nope, he isn’t going to shut up. https://t.co/jc3826HhCD pic.twitter.com/hZNmQNcwj0— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 30, 2020
Three men on stage. It’s a toss up who sucks at their job worse. Chris Wallace or Donald Trump.
re: #119 plansbandc
It’s always the right call. His voice triggers everything for me, so I can’t listen to him.
Rather than waterboard me for information, make me listen to Trump talk while forcing me to look at pictures of Jared and the Trump spawn.
My hat is off to Biden for not losing his cool and decking him, or for that matter shooting Trump with a tranquilizer gun.
re: #114 Blizard
Put them in sealed boxes. Microphones on when it’s their turn. By special presidential arrangement.
I made a bet with my bookie a month ago that Biden would win. Sounds like I need to get down for some more.
I tried. But if they won’t cut his mic there is no debate.
re: #134 Rightwingconspirator
Three men on stage. It’s a toss up who sucks at their job worse. Chris Wallace or Donald Trump.
Well, I still think it’s Trump, but not by much.
re: #110 Targetpractice
Either that or the stroke he didn’t have removed even more filter.
re: #135 Barefoot Grin
Rather than waterboard me for information, make me listen to Trump talk while forcing me to look at pictures of Jared and the Trump spawn.
“ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, I’LL TALK!!! Just make that whiny bitch voice stop!!!”
re: #11 Decatur Deb
And can you believe how closely they’re sitting, with no masks?!
Somewhere in America Hilary Clinton is enjoying the shit out of this.
re: #140 Charmingly Persistent
I tried. But if they won’t cut his mic there is no debate.
So now his supporters and the MSM will declare that Trump won the debate by a long shot because Biden couldn’t get a word in edgewise. Cool.
re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg
Somewhere in America Hilary Clinton is enjoying the shit out of this.
I still say that if Hillary had told that bastard to back the fuck off at that debate where he was hovering over her, she would’ve won.
Oh, fuckface is whining and lying simultaneously. He is such an asshole. Not sure I can take another hour of this.
re: #146 geekmom
And can you believe how closely they’re sitting, with no masks?!
Not watching. I’m just here in case he strokes out.
re: #137 jaunte
This is kinda what I was thinking.
20 minutes into this and I’m just muting SCROTUS whenever he starts yapping.
This incompetent mofo is unbearable.
Wallace swatted Biden down when Trump was responding, but keeps quiet when Biden gets interrupted (again).
I’ve got the sound off. Closed captions only.
And all you lizards.
Oh my lord — Spanky just brought up the Swine Flu (14,000 deaths) and Joe just smacked him back with 200,000.
trump is unraveled, beating himself. Badly.— BrooklynDad_Defiant! (@mmpadellan) September 30, 2020
This is a fucking joke. Agolf Twitler is an insufferble fucking jackass.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
This isn’t just Trump’s disrespect for Biden coming through. It’s his disrespect for the election process entirely. This constant litany of interruptions and lies deprives voters of the opportunity to actually hear a real debate.
— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) September 30, 2020
Trump has no pressure-relief valve in the form of an audience to play to, so he’s just getting more and more worked up as this goes on.
re: #164 Scottish Dragon
This is a gish gallop goat fuck
That was literally the plan. It’s the only play they’ve got in their book. They are that desperate.
I want the Flying Booger Biscuits back. Let’s do this.
re: #157 (((Archangel1)))
20 minutes into this and I’m just muting SCROTUS whenever he stops yapping
You’re watching in silence?
/
the 2017-2018 flu killed 61,000 in the US.
Biden: “…This guy said ‘you could inject some bleach into your arm’”
Trump: “That was said sarcastically and you know it”— Allan Smith (@akarl_smith) September 30, 2020
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Go Joe. He’s landing blows and Trump is flailing.
Asshole’s take on the COVID vaccine is exactly 180. Degrees off: it’s Trump and his Admin who are trying to make the vaccine “political” - and if Trump or anyone thinks one will be available “soon” …. well, I wouldn’t hold by breath (assuming I still have any)
re: #173 BigPapa
Go Joe. He’s landing blows and Trump is flailing.
He doesn’t need to own the room. He just needs to take the shots when the window is open.
He argues like a fucking toddler in a sandbox. “Don’t use the word smart with me,” what an asshole.
Whoever is talking in Joe’s ear is doing a good job
re: #171 The Pie Overlord!
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Trump lies that he was talking “sarcastically” when he mused about injecting disinfectant to fight the virus.
He just wasn’t. https://t.co/M4LZxFcpes— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 30, 2020
re: #180 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Joe or trump?
Trump. You could see how badly his ego was bruised by being accused of not being smart.
Okay…possibly my only serious comment for the rest of the night. From my perspective as someone who grew up with a narcissistic abuser (that tried to start a cult):
Donald Trump is an abuser, and he’s going to “argue” like an abuser. Really, there’s no way to actually “win” in a direct exchange versus a narcissist since they simply do not live in the world, nothing can penetrate their bad faith and they will never constrain themselves with rules of engagement. Everything is just a power dynamic, there’s no truth, no ethics, and no limits. The depressing reality is that narcissists always push any situation to the absolute strained limit that they think they can get away with, but will immediately assume the victim stance if met with pushback they can’t handle, but will then use victim status to further attack. It doesn’t apply in this situation, but this is true up to and including when they become violent…the minute they start losing they see themselves as the hurt party.
In situ, this means that he’s going to lie as much as possible…but also specifically lie to such as egregious degree that it causes whomever’s he’s speaking at to become upset. At which point their upset-ness is going to be treated as a sign of weakness if they respond with anything short of aggression, and a sign of instability if they respond with aggression.
I bring this up because we’re in a very weird situation where…we’re all kind of being put through narcissistic abuse by Donald Trump, and it is more important that you recognize that moment of distress-overload and take care of yourself than keep watching and get sick with distress.
“Don’t ever use the word smart with me.”
Accurate self-assessment.
re: #178 BeachDem
He argues like a fucking toddler in a sandbox. “Don’t use the word smart with me,” what an asshole.
Mr. President, with all the respect you are due, the word “smart” and you don’t even belong in the same goddamn room.
re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg
You’re watching in silence?
/
I couldn’t possibly hit the mute button that fast. Watching over the internet since my TV shit the bed. Imagine having to hover over the mouse for two hours.
No, I’m listening. All white males should be listening to the debate. It’s our fault we’re in this mess and that’s dead truth.
re: #155 Decatur Deb
Not watching. I’m just here in case he strokes out.
I just stopped in to see what what happening. I like the way you think, Sir.
re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Mr. President, with all the respect you are due, the word “smart” and you don’t even belong in the same goddamn hemisphere
room.
Fixed that.
There can’t possibly be another hour of this. Can there?
Joe seems to be having fun and the yam is about to blow out an artery.
re: #193 BeachDem
Joe seems to be having fun and the yam is about to blow out an artery.
This is good. Goading Trump into a meltdown is one of the best possible debate plans, especially if it is done in such a way that the both-sides media can’t twist to be an attack on Biden.
What’s telling is how defensive Trump is. Even when he tries to “attack,” it’s in defense of his BS.
Fauci probably pissed about Trump name dropping him like this.
If this is happening at a debate moderated by Fox, LOL one of the next two is going to send Trump to his dirt nap.
“No negative effect”
Herman Cain might disagree with that.
re: #199 geekmom
I could
Coupled with “it’s a joke,” “that’s sarcasm,” etc.
Soon he’ll be channeling Ross from Friends—WE WERE ON A BREAK!!!
CHYNAAAA.
re: #196 EPR-radar
This is good. Goading Trump into a meltdown is one of the best possible debate plans, especially if it is done in such a way that the both-sides media can’t twist to be an attack on Biden.
They’ll probably claim that Biden isn’t taking anything seriously.
re: #77 BeachDem
And he’s already getting on Chris Wallace’s last nerve. And lying like a fucking rug.
How is he staying calm, why hasn’t he cut his mic and GIVE HIM A GAVEL!
re: #205 SteelPH
They’ll probably claim that Biden isn’t taking anything seriously.
Is there a reason he should? Trump doesn’t say anything serious.
Trump seems to have basically have to resort to puerile insults in virtually every and any circumstance: wonder how quickly the RWNJs will jump to admire his “strength”…?
re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Mr. President, with all the respect you are due, the word “smart” and you don’t even belong in the same goddamn room.
re: #207 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.
Is there a reason he should? Trump doesn’t say anything serious.
Not a one.
re: #208 Jay C
Shall I do tomorrow’s Limbaugh monologue imitation again?
— Josh Olson (@joshuarolson) September 29, 2020
re: #206 geekmom
How is he staying calm, why hasn’t he cut his mic and GIVE HIM A GAVEL!
I hope Joe is thinking “This is easier than Paul Ryan!”
re: #157 (((Archangel1)))
20 minutes into this and I’m just muting SCROTUS whenever he starts yapping.
This incompetent mofo is unbearable.
You have a strong stomach. I lasted about 30 seconds.
I think Trump is getting what he wants. He wants people to tune out of the debate. Who can stand listening to this.
— DiamondandSulk (@HarryTokus) September 30, 2020
re: #87 i(m)p(each)sos
This is fucking unwatchable. Or unlistenable.
So why are we watching it?
I need a drink.
I was wrong. I did learn something from this debate after all.
Chris Wallace is utterly incompetent as a moderator. Like stunningly so.— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 30, 2020
oh, and small point but mr. stable genius
Biden didn’t forget the name of his college. He was talking about campaigning at Delaware State. (This has become a right-wing media #thing.)
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 30, 2020
good lord my relatives are having orgasms over Trump’s performance…
Chris Wallace would be a terrible substitute teacher.
— Bradley Whitford (@BradleyWhitford) September 30, 2020
Honestly, I am watching to see how Joe responds to the yams blathering.
re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg
“No negative effect”
Herman Cain might disagree with that.
Herman Cain’s Twitter feed won’t.
Smart move by Joe: addressing the home audience directly.
Trump probably doesn’t even remember millions of people are watching.
Not watching, text me if one of them starts complaining about their left arm or toast comes up.
— Billy Wayne Davis (@BillyWayneDavis) September 30, 2020
Why did Chris Wallace allow #Trump to use the racist term China Virus? I think racial slurs are outside the bounds of fact checking 👀#PresidentialDebate2020
— Jason Johnson (@DrJasonJohnson) September 30, 2020
re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg
“I brought back Big 10 football”
Him and the great plague of the Midwest - Stupidity.
re: #220 geekmom
So why are we watching it?
I need a drink.
It’s like a trainwreck. Sometimes, you just can’t look away.
re: #123 Charles Johnson
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Wouldn’t it be great if he literally died onstage instead of just figuratively?
Trump: “No negative effect of my rallies.”
Anyone got a ouija board? Pretty sure Herman Cain would beg to differ…#PresidentialDebate— Disloyal Arch (@Arch_LGF) September 30, 2020
“Unless you’re stupid” you pay no taxes
Wow— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) September 30, 2020
I thought Chris Wallace was supposed to be some kind of exception to the rule that everyone at Fox News is a wingnut shit for brains.
Not watching but listening on Sirius.
My impression, Wallace is clearly biased to Trump and He’s giving Trump every fucking advantage
re: #223 🌹UOJB!
good lord my relatives are having orgasms over Trump’s performance…
Wingnuts probably will - but I wonder how the RTW is dealing?
re: #238 jaunte
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Alright, we’ll all start evading our taxes, and when the federal government goes tits up, we’ll blame you. How’s that sound?
re: #239 EPR-radar
I thought Chris Wallace was supposed to be some kind of exception to the rule that everyone at Fox News is a wingnut shit for brains.
He is…because he’s a doormat.
Trump is the moderator of this debate.
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) September 30, 2020
“You’re the worst president Amreica has ever had.” Thank you, Joe.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
re: #245 DodgerFan1988
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The bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral.
re: #240 🌹UOJB!
Not watching but listening on Sirius.
My impression, Wallace is clearly biased to Trump and He’s giving Trump every fucking advantage
Fox News. Nobody from that propaganda shop can be trusted, since the ones that pretend to be credible are just waiting for a chance to weaponize that credibility for the wingnut cause.
re: #235 geekmom
Wouldn’t it be great if he literally died onstage instead of just figuratively?
AS a christian, i don’t want anyone to die just because i hate them. I want him to live for many years and to suffer horribly in a federal supermax.
You haven’t BEEN President for 47 months you orange shitgibbon.
Goddamnit. I hate fucking typos! Being an English major is a curse sometimes.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
re: #249 steve_davis
AS a christian, i don’t want anyone to die just because i hate them. I want him to live for many years and to suffer horribly in a federal supermax.
In poverty. All of my hoped for future histories of Trump include grinding poverty, because nothing would make him feel worse.
Waiting for Trump to demand to speak to Biden’s manager.
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 30, 2020
Trump seems to think Biden ran the country while Obama was President.
re: #239 EPR-radar
I thought Chris Wallace was supposed to be some kind of exception to the rule that everyone at Fox News is a wingnut shit for brains.
Apparently not: but it’s hard to see how anybody else would be able to do much better or worse with this clown show….
hey so how’s the debate going pic.twitter.com/kohuPlYUZX
— Chuck Wendig (@ChuckWendig) September 30, 2020
Watching Donald Trump roll over Chris again and again and again as Joe just can’t quite overcome the two of them is just tragic to see. Fuck Chris Wallace and Donald Trump with a mile of barbed wire
Narrator: Higher stock market does NOT necessarily mean more jobs.
re: #255 Jay C
Apparently not: but it’s hard to see how anybody else would be able to do much better or worse with this clown show….
Aside from just shutting of his mic I don’t know what the moderator could do. The bastard just wont shut up
“Best year ever”
Hey Flint, was last year the best year ever?— Mari Copeny (@LittleMissFlint) September 30, 2020
I hope the moderator of the next debate has a fucking spine.
Daniel is on it. OOOHH—AND NOW THE ASSHOLE’S GOING AFTER HUNTER.
Trump falsely claims he’s brought back 700,000 manufacturing jobs.
Through August, it’s a net *loss* of 237,000 manufacturing jobs. Through February, before the pandemic crash, it was a gain of 483,000, so “700,000” would still be a big exaggeration. https://t.co/t8HU3Ses5S— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 30, 2020
Whoop!
Hunter’ billions from China!!
Money from the mayors wife!
Ex-Watergate prosecutor Nick Akerman says the NYT’s report on Trump’s taxes shows that both he and his daughter, Ivanka could face legal liabilities. “The only thing saving him at this point is the Department of Justice’s guideline that says you can’t indict a sitting president.” pic.twitter.com/4YI1qDhI5g
— OutFrontCNN (@OutFrontCNN) September 28, 2020
re: #166 Targetpractice
Trump has no pressure-relief valve in the form of an audience to play to, so he’s just getting more and more worked up as this goes on.
STROKE. HIM. OUT!!!
My blood pressure got too high. In 4 years, that’s the most I’ve actually listened to that horrid man’s voice.
I just turned it off and already feel noticeably better.
Trump is dominating. That’s the brutal truth. It’s painful. So far.
— Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) September 30, 2020
Piss off, suckass!
re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg
I hope the moderator of the next debate has a fucking spine.
And a mike cutoff button.
Trump wants Joe to lose his temper and if Joe does lose his temper Fox will orgasm.
He’s yelling now. https://t.co/9Ew6CTjJaZ
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg
I hope the moderator of the next debate has a fucking spine.
And can cut mics.
edit: I see this is not an original thought.
I was bullied as a kid. This debate is giving me serious flashbacks.
re: #258 Rightwingconspirator
Watching Donald Trump roll over Chris again and again and again as Joe just can’t quite overcome the two of them is just tragic to see.
Which is what I was afraid of. I’m counting on y’all to watch and comment on salient points while I watch something else… it sounds like Joe isn’t being direct enough.
re: #274 🌹UOJB!
Joe shouldn’t lose his temper. Instead, Joe should just deride Trump for being an ass.
Putin’s stooge is lecturing Biden on Russian money
— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) September 30, 2020
HE CALLED HIM A CLOWN! Truth hurts.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
Wallace is all of us right now wanting Trump to shut the fuck up.
re: #283 teleskiguy
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Mr. Biden, soon-to-be President of the United States, if you use the phrase “Fuckface von Clownstick” on live TV, I will happily donate to your campaign.
This is what I was warning about.
They won’t take away his mike or enforce the rules, and he’s never going to stint himself.
And there are plenty of people who will see that as “strength.”
Perhaps we could also debate by mail.
— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) September 30, 2020
I’m not watching, but from reading what y’all are posting, it sounds like my prediction earlier that Trump’s entire strategy would be to put on a show for the red hats because he can’t afford to lose a single one of them was correct.
re: #279 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Which is what I was afraid of. I’m counting on y’all to watch and comment on salient points while I watch something else… it sounds like Joe isn’t being direct enough.
Joe shouldn’t lose his temper. Instead, Joe should just deride Trump for being an ass.
I think Joe is doing great—Trump is a yelling, toddler bully. I;m sure his “base” thinks he’s wonderful, but he’s coming across as the stupid, loathesome asshole he is.
re: #290 Ace Rothstein
pretty much.
re: #288 Targetpractice
This debate is a total shitshow.
Agreed. There needs to be enforced mechanisms in the next debate to keep them on topic…and a better fucking moderator.
Obama-Biden Economy VS Trump Economy #BidenHarris #DebateTuesday #Debate2020 #Resist #TrumpIsABully #TrumpInterrupts #TrumpLies #WillYouJustShutUpMan pic.twitter.com/uEYHDxBR8L
— #VoteBlue Blueberry Pie (@Pie_Overlord) September 30, 2020
re: #291 BeachDem
I think Joe is wiping the floor with him. Trump is flailing like the man baby he is but has not landed an actual blow while Biden has hit body shot after body shot and all sting.
re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg
One of the many reasons why I can’t watch him or listen to him. All he does is bully.
Next debate, they need to fit Trump with one of those remote control shock collars for training dogs.
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 30, 2020
re: #290 Ace Rothstein
I’m not watching, but from reading what y’all are posting, it sounds like my prediction earlier that Trump’s entire strategy would be to put on a show for the red hats because he can’t afford to lose a single one of them was correct.
That’s not a winning strategy for Trump, unless there is some kind of awful medical discovery that enables sufficiently enthusiastic deplorables to reproduce by cloning themselves.
Trump is confusing Joe with Hillary. What a moron.
Trump can remember “Crime Bill”, and “superpredators”, and that’s about the extent of his prep.
re: #196 EPR-radar
This is good. Goading Trump into a meltdown is one of the best possible debate plans, especially if it is done in such a way that the both-sides media can’t twist to be an attack on Biden.
We knew Obama’s default setting was cool. Wherever Joe got it from, great job!
It’s false that Biden does not have “any” law enforcement support. Here is a…Fox News article: https://t.co/XpKkj9xi8A
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 30, 2020
re: #291 BeachDem
I think Joe is doing great—Trump is a yelling, toddler bully. I;m sure his “base” thinks he’s wonderful, but he’s coming across as the stupid, loathesome asshole he is.
Actually several Freepers think Trump looks angry and frustrated and isn’t doing very well. Not all, of course, but it’s notable that some do.
re: #297 teleskiguy
“Next debate, they need to fit Trump with one of those remote control shock collars for training dogs.”
Fred Sr. should have done that when Donald first demonstrated he would never outgrow the terrible twos.
My read is that Trump is losing every woman in America. We have all dealt with this guy.
— Heather Cox Richardson (TDPR) (@HC_Richardson) September 30, 2020
re: #302 geekmom
We knew Obama’s default setting was cool. Wherever Joe got it from, great job!
I’ve mentioned before, Obama intentionally chose Biden because of of the man’s personality and how it matched his own. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Now it’s top 40 cities…he just keeps goosing the numbers.
re: #307 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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This debate performance is pure red meat. He’s hitting all the talking points, but he’s not actually landing any blows.
It’s not that the President of the United States is a ranting, raving asshole and bully with absolutely no interest in having a substantive debate or, you know, leading.
It’s that tens of millions of Americans think that that’s a *good* thing.— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) September 30, 2020
I’d pay to see that.
Hell, they could air it On Demand, and the revenue might just cover the nation’s deficit…— Disloyal Arch (@Arch_LGF) September 30, 2020
re: #309 Eclectic Cyborg
Now it’s top 40 cities…he just keeps goosing the numbers.
Can’t say for sure what happened behind the scenes, but Seattle’s mayor says Trump’s claim is false: “We had no conversations whatsoever with the White House about anything related to the protests, Capitol Hill, or anything along these lines.” https://t.co/rKBDYpKdul
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 30, 2020
This isn’t about Joe Biden.
This is about us.
This is how Trump treats America. Trump doesn’t listen. Trump is a bully. Trump talks over the experts, the courts, congress, and every citizen.
You’re looking right at it. How he treats Biden is how he treats YOU.— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 30, 2020
Trump “What is peaceful protest? When THEY run down through the middle of town and burn down YOUR stores.” [emphasis mine]
This is bullcrap and I shouldn’t have to freaking it explain it all the time. #Debates2020— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) September 30, 2020
So far, MSM engaging in the worst kind of bothsidesism:
WaPo: Trump and Biden clash on health care, talking over each other
NYT: Sharp Personal Attacks and Name Calling in First Presidential Debate
AP: Angry opening: Trump, Biden lash, interrupt each other |— Dan Froomkin/presswatchers.org (@froomkin) September 30, 2020
re: #318 Citizen K
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The takes are gonna be Reactor No.4 hot tonight: “Yeah, Trump’s performance was total dogshit, BUT Biden interrupted him so it was a draw!”
“You wouldn’t know a suburb unless you took a wrong turn.”
LOL
“He wouldn’t know a suburb unless he took a wrong turn”
BAM
re: #319 Jay C
LAW AND ORDER!!
* donk donk*
THE MISADVENTURES OF SHERIFF LOBO!!!*
*Lobo and Deputy Perkins were corrupt as fuck, like Trump and his clan.
re: #249 steve_davis
AS a christian, i don’t want anyone to die just because i hate them. I want him to live for many years and to suffer horribly in a federal supermax.
Completely fair point and the cult would probably make him a martyr anyway.
And I do want to see him in prison.
So back to figuratively dying on stage? He passes out and that’s the end.
The fucking Corporate Controlled Conservative Press is absolutely useless!
My head hurts—it is really painful to watch, let alone listen to that asshole.
I’m no fan of debates at the best of times, but Chris Wallace is the worst moderator I’ve ever seen. Trump is just bulldozing him.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 30, 2020
I hope some police forces come out in support of Biden tomorrow.
“You wouldn’t know a suburb unless you took a wrong turn” - @JoeBiden layeth the smacketh down on @realDonaldTrump … did @TheRock give him some zingers???#Debates2020
— Kurt Bardella (@kurtbardella) September 30, 2020
re: #328 Charles Johnson
Chris’ dad would’ve told Trump to shut the fuck up if he was still alive.
What the fuck is Chris trying to lay on Biden about calling the mayors and governors? And once again, SHUT THE FUCK UP WHEN JOE IS TALKING, DONALD
Trump fans will view his lunatic jabbering and sweaty mania as a win. But then again, they believe shooting bleach in their asses cures COVID.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) September 30, 2020
re: #334 Ace Rothstein
Chris’ dad would’ve told Trump to shut the fuck up if he was still alive.
Everyone knew that Trump would be a motormouth asshole in any debate, so WTF did Chris Wallace’s preparation consist of? Diddly-squat?
He can’t say the word “condemn.” He can’t actually do it.
Stand Back and Stand by is der Fuerhers order to the Proud Boys Gestapo
This is a fucking mess. Trump needs to shut the fuck up. He can’t stop himself. And holding Biden in any way responsible for the violence in Portland is just ridiculous.
Was Biden my original choice to be the nominee? No. But I’ll never have to worry about Biden being a raging asshole as President.
re: #332 So Cal Greek Hippie
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The clouds are winning the debate!!!
Proud Boys, STAND BY!
There it is, calling out his stormtroopers.— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
What’s Trump telling his Proud Boy brownshirts, exactly?
Stand back and stand by?
— Schooley (@Rschooley) September 30, 2020
re: #347 teleskiguy
Yeah, I caught that too. What the fucking fuck.
As my wife said, the debate won’t change many minds. But that’s ok. We’re in a GOTV election.
Daniel Dale. Period. Paragraph.
In summary: Biden has gotten at least a small number of things at least a little wrong; Trump has told big lie after big lie.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 30, 2020
There ya go, Trump not condemning white supremacists.
Can we look at that a whole minute? “Stand By” for what? Election loss?
re: #320 Targetpractice
The takes are gonna be Reactor No.4 hot tonight: “Yeah, Trump’s performance was total dogshit, BUT Biden interrupted him so it was a draw!”
don’t get worked up about that. media hot takes inside debates are almost always wrong. it normally takes a little while for sanity to kick in and for everyone to realize what actually occurred. this is because there are an enormous number of people in the world who aren’t stupid, but who are barely competent, and it takes them a while to figure stuff out that is obvious to those of us on such sites as, say, littlegreenfootballs.
Chris Wallace has utterly failed to keep this debate under control.
re: #356 Rightwingconspirator
Can we look at that a whole minute? “Stand By” for what? Election loss?
That’s how I interpreted it.
re: #297 teleskiguy
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I have suggested this. It should be used for both interruptions and lies.
He never mentions the actual numbers, he mentions how many people or groups that ‘like’ him. He’s a superficial braggart with absolutely no substance.
re: #356 Rightwingconspirator
Can we look at that a whole minute? “Stand By” for what? Election loss?
To storm the capital and start a civil war at Trump’s direction.
THEY DIDN’T LEAVE THOSE JUDGES TO YOU, YOU ORANGE TURD! MITCH MCCONNELL DID!
Don;t thank Joe and Obama for the open judgeships, asshole. Thank Mitch Fucking McConnell.
Telling Proud Boys to “stand by” is telling them to…await further instruction.
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 30, 2020
“Execute Order 66.”
Trump was asked directly if he would condemn white supremacists.
He refused to do it. https://t.co/jc3826HhCD pic.twitter.com/2qiRIl3Zca— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 30, 2020
In case you’re wondering how this debate is going with folks who are not very online, this is what a friend just sent me pic.twitter.com/O8DyvHVXRj
— Alex (@JewishWonk) September 30, 2020
re: #366 Charles Johnson
Yep and the Dems need to run with that for a campaign ad.
Another mistake by Joe, IMO: he really should have shot right back over those “128 judges” - with a subtle reminder that we need a Democratic Senate.
Suggestion: At the next debate, put a dude behind Trump with a cattle prod who zaps him every time he interrupts.
Joe just outclassed him.
Trump is a Sh**gibbon
It’s false Hunter Biden did not have a job until Joe Biden became vice president. He became a partner at a law and lobbying firm in 2001. (He did stop lobbying late in 2008 election. Before that, he had worked for MBNA and for the US Commerce Department.)
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 30, 2020
Wallace: “I would like to talk about climate change.”
Biden: “So would I.”
re: #371 Eclectic Cyborg
Like the guy cheating at blackjack in “Casino.”
Donald Trump isn’t a law and order president. He’s a president who breaks the law and creates disorder.
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) September 30, 2020
re: #371 Eclectic Cyborg
Suggestion: At the next debate, put a dude behind Trump with a cattle prod who zaps him every time he interrupts.
Why just when he interrupts? 24/7 would be more like it.
Amazing how Trump just says he doesn’t know who the fuck Beau Biden is.
You’d think his oppo research team would have been on that.
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I have to take off the headset when Orange Gorilla shriek.
Forest sweeping again.
Beautiful air, crystal clean air, Paris accord a disaster—he’s getting all of his big words in. Ooooh now it’s IMMACULATE air and water. Now he;s going to talk about raking the forests. I am going to puke. And now a SIR story.
Oh, and…
It’s false Hunter Biden did not have a job until Joe Biden became vice president. He became a partner at a law and lobbying firm in 2001. (He did stop lobbying late in 2008 election. Before that, he had worked for MBNA and for the US Commerce Department.)
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 30, 2020
re: #355 TarHellion
Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck
Since I’m not watching now — what was this comment in regard to?
re: #377 The Pie Overlord!
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Who put this up?
Is Joe subtly tweeting under the podium?
He won’t answer the CC/AGW question. He keeps running home to mamma - well worn right-wing talking points.
Idk who told trump to go for Biden’s kid but Biden just went full hockey dad
— Linda Tirado (@KillerMartinis) September 30, 2020
By showing up, speaking a couple dozen coherent sentences, and leaving on his feet Biden wins the night. He showed he isn’t senile or disabled. Trump and his idiot flock of flying monkeys set that trap for themselves.
re: #357 steve_davis
don’t get worked up about that. media hot takes inside debates are almost always wrong. it normally takes a little while for sanity to kick in and for everyone to realize what actually occurred. this is because there are an enormous number of people in the world who aren’t stupid, but who are barely competent, and it takes them a while to figure stuff out that is obvious to those of us on such sites as, say, littlegreenfootballs.
Main problem is how much it exposes the impetus through the entire media institution to extend benefit of the doubt only to the Right, and to consistently assume everything is “Good News for Republicans/Bad News for Democrats!’. And it still colors everything they do even when they come down from their “Both Sides” high, at least until they decide on their retrospectives. Look at the revisionist history they’ve pulled about the 2016 debates where Trump was the steely superman that caused Hillary’s poll numbers to collapse by sheer verve.
re: #385 Hecuba’s daughter
Since I’m not watching now — what was this comment in regard to?
Trump made a comment that sounded like it could be a veiled order for the Proud Boys to start some shit.
If I were drinking on every “many people say,” I’d be passed out cold by now.
re: #395 i(m)p(each)sos
If I were drinking on every “many people say,” I’d be passed out cold by now.
I don’t hate my liver that much.
re: #395 i(m)p(each)sos
If I were drinking on every “many people say,” I’d be passed out cold by now.
Classic weasel words. My journalism professor would have kicked my ass for that shit.
Trump’s solution is that everyone should buy a new car.
People who say that women are too emotional to be president need to shut the fuck up forever.
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
Biden would be better served to cut this nightmare short
re: #398 jaunte
Trump’s solution is that everyone should buy a new car.
Remember when wingnuts snickered about cutting gas usage by maintaining tire pressure?
Electric cars?
ISTR that subsidies for electric vehicles have been phased out in the Trump Admin - am I wrong?
Under this president, we’ve become weaker, sicker, poorer, more divided, and more violent.
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) September 30, 2020
re: #395 i(m)p(each)sos
“many people say” = “no one has said”.
re: #371 Eclectic Cyborg
Suggestion: At the next debate, put a dude behind Trump with a cattle prod who zaps him every time he interrupts.
Then what do you do if he lies?
Wallace: What will you do to combat climate change?
Biden: [specific plan delivered in detail]
Trump: Let me tell you a story about the mayor of Forest City and their explosive trees!— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) September 30, 2020
Unsurprisingly, Biden is showing much more control and composure.
re: #402 Targetpractice
Yeah, Obama said that, damn him and his facts.
re: #406 geekmom
That’s what the dog collar is for.
Loud and stupid may win his base, but Trump is not going to convince many fence-sitters tonight.
Trump seems to think he is debating Obama.
re: #412 Targetpractice
Loud and stupid may win his base, but Trump is not going to convince many fence-sitters tonight.
Which was his entire strategy. It’s nothing but a show for the red hats.
re: #414 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump seems to think he is debating Obama.
He’s just reading from his ‘16 script.
“They want to take out the cows…” pic.twitter.com/14Zrf40uYh
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
re: #414 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump seems to think he is debating
ObamaBernie Sanders.
Anyone who says trump won this debate must play a mean pinball.
CHYYYHNNNNNAAAA
re: #414 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump seems to think he is debating Obama.
I would pay a lot of money to watch that bloodbath.
Shame on you @POTUS for continuing to bring up @JoeBiden son… SHAME ON YOU…
— Chris Evert (@ChrissieEvert) September 30, 2020
re: #397 Eclectic Cyborg
Classic weasel words. My journalism professor would have kicked my ass for that shit.
Those of us who worked in journalism learned not to do that quickly.
holy fucking shit, the president of the united states is gibbering lunatic
— Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) September 30, 2020
I turned the TV over to the debate FOR ONE SECOND AND ON MUTE, and Trump’s face is drenched in sweat and red as a beet.
re: #403 Jay C
Electric cars?
ISTR that subsidies for electric vehicles have been phased out in the Trump Admin - am I wrong?
They have been phased out.
re: #425 The Pie Overlord!
Yep, he got Biden totally twisted around with the Green New Deal crap.
@RealDonaldTrump refused to condemn white supremacists on live TV.
Instead he told them to “stand up & stand by.”
This should surprise no one who’s been paying attention.
The So-Called Ruler of the United States (SCROTUS) is a RACIST. #Debates2020#ChrisWallaceShitShow— Disloyal Arch (@Arch_LGF) September 30, 2020
I think Trump’s performance has deteriorated over the course of the debate.
re: #426 Ace Rothstein
I turned the TV over to the debate FOR ONE SECOND AND ON MUTE, and Trump’s face is drenched in sweat and red as a beet.
I hope Joe holds up a couple of urine sample cups before the end of the debate.
Look at Biden’s expression while Trump is raving.
re: #431 calochortus
I think Trump’s performance has deteriorated over the course of the debate.
The drugs were wearing off.
Question about election integrity, Trump continues the airing of grievances.
re: #434 Jay C
So another Trump BS lie.
And “coup”?
Yes, the coup was performed by the entire DC establishment which explains why Trump is still President.
In tonight’s presidential debate the President said the “Portland Sheriff” supports him. As the Multnomah County Sheriff I have never supported Donald Trump and will never support him.
— Mike Reese (@SheriffReese) September 30, 2020
I thought this debate was only an hour and a half. What’s this overtime BS?
re: #443 Targetpractice
Injury time, like soccer.
re: #445 Ace Rothstein
Injury time, like soccer.
Then Needy Amin should have been issued a red card ages ago.
Joe Biden: Everybody vote
Donald Trump: Hillary and Obama don’t like me. We gotta stop all this voting crap.— The Root (@TheRoot) September 30, 2020
re: #442 DodgerFan1988
Expect many more of these in the next 24 hours.
Now he;s just throwing shitu at the fan about the ballots. It’s after 10:30, PULL THE FUCKING PLUG ALREADY.
re: #443 Targetpractice
I thought this debate was only an hour and a half. What’s this overtime BS?
They didn’t actually start until around 9:10 ET
The West Virginia mailman wasn’t selling ballots. He got caught altering some ballot APPLICATIONS, during the primary season, from Democratic to Republican. He said he was joking. https://t.co/GFuOA9gV78
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 30, 2020
Chris Wallace: How will you ensure we have a free and fair election?
The President of the United States: IT’S GONNA BE RIGGED IT’S GONNA BE A DISASTER IT’S GONNA BE A FRAUD THE LIKES OF WHICH YOU’VE NEVER SEEN THIS IS NOT GOING TO END WELL BUT ALSO WE ARE GOING TO WIN— Sarah Cooper (@sarahcpr) September 30, 2020
The mail carrier in Virginia Trump was talking about? They were busted for changing votes to Republican.
Shocking, I know.
Worst theater ever. By the way, love to see how many votes shift as a net change from this forlorn display of journalistic incompetence.
re: #449 BeachDem
Now he;s just throwing shitu at the fan about the ballots. It’s after 10:30, PULL THE FUCKING PLUG ALREADY.
It looks like Stonekettle gave up on it about 15 minutes ago.
I lost track of the drinking points but still polished off my Bailey’s.
I have what would normally be called a pleasant buzz that hasn’t given me any relief from this.
re: #454 Rightwingconspirator
Worst theater ever. By the way, love to see how many votes shift as a net change from this forlorn display of journalistic incompetence.
My guess is zero, but that may just be me…..
Now you know how the majority of people feel when you are on TV.
— Clay C. (@ClayC1969) September 30, 2020
Trump immediately calls for polling place interference.
From my brother: “I’d say drink anytime Trump lies or makes something up, but I don’t want to end up getting my stomach pumped.”
re: #456 Egregious Philbin
Answer the question Trump….
He won’t….
Trump’s pockets are full of red herrings.
re: #458 Jay C
My guess is zero, but that may just be me…..
If Trump didn’t change the trend of the last six months, he lost big-time.
Of course you did because Joe is telling the truth.
— The 3-D Zanti Regent (@josephebacon) September 30, 2020
Trump gets asked if he’ll pledge not to declare victory on Election Night and if he’ll accept the final result, does neither and instead stokes more fear of “fraud.”
Biden immediately answers “Yes”. THAT is how you handle a question like that.
Trump ranting likely a maniac clearly knows he is going to lose.
And he ends with a big lie about Philly today—we already dissected that bullshit earlier. I hate that man with every fiber of my being.
Another mark of an abuser: always tries to get the last word.
J. FUCKING. C. that was a total shitshow.
Wow. The passion between Trump and Melania. You can’t fake love like that.
Not a debate, a disgrace. Trump is a petulant 3 year old whining baby.
re: #467 Targetpractice
That shit about the “poll watchers” being denied access to polls is such crap. That’s Don Jr.’s pet project for voter intimidation.
We just won the election.
— Rob Reiner (@robreiner) September 30, 2020
ABC commentator: “That was the worst debate ever”
Trump’s the Gish Gallop dog-whistle snake-oil salesman of politics.
The big takeaway from tonight about Trump’s performance: He would not answer a single question. Every “answer” was either a direct attack on Biden or a direct attack on Democrats. He would not stop deflecting.
Chris Wallace is the Mitch McConnell of Bill O’Reillys.
Dana Bash on CNN:
“That was a shitshow”.
Third talking head up to review on CNN calls it a shitshow. Literally, “a shitshow”.
On behalf of every Philadelphian, FUCK YOU DONNY!
re: #490 jaunte
I’m Ace Rothstein and I approve this message.
My ears are ringing. I hate that disgusting excuse for a human being.
Yes.
The So-Called Ruler of the United States (SCROTUS) most certainly did.#TrumpIsARacist— Disloyal Arch (@Arch_LGF) September 30, 2020
Key observation:
Number of times Biden addressed the American public: At least 10
Number of times Trump addressed the American public: 0
What a mess. Biden didn’t cower down and if that is senility then sign me up.
I want to thank you all for suffering with me through this abomination. Couldn’t have done it without you.
Chris Christie complaining about Biden using “name calling and insulting language”
Jeeezus, was Chris Christie watching the same debate we were?
What a hack
re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg
“He wouldn’t know a suburb unless he took a wrong turn”
BAM
I thought “Putin’s puppy” was the best line.
(unless it was Putin’s puppet and I misheard? But it sure sounded like puppy.)
No hyperbole: The incumbent’s behavior this evening is the lowest moment in the history of the presidency since Andrew Johnson’s racist state papers.
— Jon Meacham (@jmeacham) September 30, 2020
re: #503 BeachDem
Reptiles looking after fellow reptiles. The LGF way.
this is what flailing looks like
get used to it from nov 4 to 1/20/21
re: #491 stpaulbear
Chris Wallace is the Mitch McConnell of Bill O’Reillys.
I’m not sure what that means, but it sounds right somehow
re: #492 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!
Dana Bash on CNN:
“That was a shitshow”.
That’s what they’re going to be if the moderators don’t control Trump, and the only good way to do that is to cut off the mics.
From what I’ve read here, the two things I would push are the Biden remained calm, and Trump used Biden’s dead veteran son to mount attacks.
re: #498 Patricia Kayden
Sorry but I just feel like an abuse victim.
re: #504 Eclectic Cyborg
Chris Christie complaining about Biden using “name calling and insulting language”
And that is why I’m watching MSNBC.
re: #504 Eclectic Cyborg
Chris Christie complaining about Biden using “name calling and insulting language”
That’s fucking rich.
re: #503 BeachDem
I want to thank you all for suffering with me through this abomination. Couldn’t have done it without you.
You’re welcome. ;) The hardest part for me was listening to Mr. C. yelling at the TeeVee.
Wallace should have cut shit off earlier, There should have been a mute button.
re: #486 Skandal
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Best reaction. Yep, even without watching Trump’s meltdown, I know that this debate didn’t help him win any votes.
re: #512 TarHellion
Sorry but I just feel like an abuse victim.
We’ve been abused by this asshole from the minute he got in his mind to run for President.
If I had watched all 90 minutes of this shit tonight, I would’ve ended up with another torn artery and a trip to the hospital again.
Nice job. https://t.co/qQz2msi9rq
— Schooley (@Rschooley) September 30, 2020
re: #503 BeachDem
I want to thank you all for suffering with me through this abomination. Couldn’t have done it without you.
we watched a patriotic and stirring episode if madame secretary
condemning nationalism
But Biden should know this is not 1972. Or 1992. This is now. But go back to basics.
This is America!
re: #508 Ace Rothstein
I would not have made it to this day without all of you.
Thank you for helping me stay sane.
re: #519 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
We’ve been abused by this asshole from the minute he got in his mind to run for President.
Revenge is the best therapy. Get out the fucking vote.
Thanks to all who watched and commented so that I didn’t have to. I clicked over to cspan’s website to get an occasional video. I really hope the pundit class is specific about why this was a shitshow. Wallace is a hack, and should be called out by every decent journalist.
Trump was a bullying asshole, and it sounds like Biden held his own.
Joe was like every parent alive whose had a toddler meltdown in a grocery store. Since he couldn’t up and leave, there really weren’t many good options available to him.
re: #527 Decatur Deb
Revenge is the best therapy.
I look forward to it. I want to be part of the team that sends him to hell.
If they want more debates, they’re going to have to put Trump in a soundproof box with a cutoff on his mic. He can’t follow the rules.
Welp, that’s that.
Watching that with the rest of you fine folks felt like group therapy at times.
A group therapy where the trauma is unfolding in real time, but group therapy nonetheless..
re: #519 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
This is exactly right.
re: #515 calochortus
You’re welcome. ;) The hardest part for me was listening to Mr. C. yelling at the TeeVee.
Even before COVID, I generally avoided debate watch parties because I just want to scream into the abyss all by my lonesome. (Typing with you folks is much more rewarding)
re: #519 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
We’ve been abused by this asshole from the minute he got in his mind to run for President.
His tactics have always included bullying. He thinks it’s the road to accomplishment. Human civilizations have progressed faster during times of cooperation than conflict, but he thinks his methods are superior.
I couldn’t watch it. My GF did. I put headphones on and listened to comedy on Spotify. I just can’t listen to him anymore and I’d rather not have a stroke because of him.
This still holds, as far as I’m concerned.
…I say no debates. It’s like playing chess with a pigeon. He’s not debating in good faith. He rambles like a drunk. Everything he says is a lie. He has a vocabulary of about 125 words and to say anything else needs to construct it from those 125 words somehow so it takes him 5 times as long to get a point across, if he even has one. Listening to Trump talk is like listening to that weird speech from the hotel parking lot in John From Cincinnati except that on top of it he’s an asshole.
re: #528 Teddy’s Person ✌
Thanks to all who watched and commented so that I didn’t have to. I clicked over to cspan’s website to get an occasional video. I really hope the pundit class is specific about why this was a shitshow. Wallace is a hack, and should be called out by every decent journalist.
Trump was a bullying asshole, and it sounds like Biden held his own.
Joe was like every parent alive whose had a toddler meltdown in a grocery store. Since he couldn’t up and leave, there really weren’t many good options available to him.
sounds like Wallace didn’t do his “serious journalist” career any favors
Any description of this debate as a shitshow is incomplete if it doesn’t lay the full blame on Trump. He’s a 74 year old toddler.
There is no reason to have any more debates. They will all be like this one.
The moderator for the second debate should be John Wick. #Debates2020
— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) September 30, 2020
re: #534 BeachDem
Even before COVID, I generally avoided debate watch parties because I just want to scream into the abyss all by my lonesome. (Typing with you folks is much more rewarding)
I don’t watch a lot of debates, but I felt I needed to gauge whether Trump was going to be putting on a creditable performance.
re: #538 jaunte
Any description of this debate as a shitshow is incomplete if it doesn’t lay the full blame on Trump. He’s a 74 year old toddler.
Wallace is calling him an abuser. On point. Booths, mics with cutoff switches.
Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.
Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.
re: #539 plansbandc
There is no reason to have any more debates. They will all be like this one.
Exactly. Stop treating Trump as if he was a normal president. He’s not. He’s a fascist and White Supremacist.
CNN is broadly condemning Trump’s performance. Even Rick “the” Santorum says this was really bad for him.
re: #536 Jack Burton
Listening to Trump talk is like that almost-legendary Pepe Silivia bit from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Except far less coherent.
Can we all agree that tonight’s #Debate2020 should forever be referred to as the #ChrisWallaceShitshow ?
— Disloyal Arch (@Arch_LGF) September 30, 2020
re: #541 calochortus
I don’t watch a lot of debates, but I felt I needed to gauge whether Trump was going to be putting on a creditable performance.
He didn’t.
Anybody who ever had a drunk father recognized what that was. And I’m sure that there are many victims of abuse who are also feel that way.
I just want to validate those feelings, publicly. I can’t help. But, like, it’s not wrong to feel like something deeply wrong happened.— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) September 30, 2020
re: #543 TarHellion
Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.
Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.
Biden did tell him to shut up.
re: #537 dangerman
sounds like Wallace didn’t do his “serious journalist” career any favors
19th Century Fox has NO serious journalists. But they do have endless Presstitutes…
BTW I just got an e-mail from my friend in France who said that the folks who watch it with him all replied…What the hell are we seeing?????
re: #543 TarHellion
Exactly. Trump’s marks are those who respond to male displays of strong aggression. This is why so many older females (who were raised in patriarchy) go for Trump. And why the hate-right (the usual racist gangs) gravitate to Trump.
re: #543 TarHellion
Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.
Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.
He did, more or less, a couple of times.
re: #549 jaunte
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Anybody who ever had a drunk father recognized what that was. And I’m sure that there are many victims of abuse who are also feel that way.
I just want to validate those feelings, publicly. I can’t help. But, like, it’s not wrong to feel like something deeply wrong happened.— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) September 30, 2020
re: #543 TarHellion
Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.
Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.
Biden: “Will you shut up, man?”
Nope, he isn’t going to shut up. https://t.co/jc3826HhCD pic.twitter.com/hZNmQNcwj0— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 30, 2020
Oh I definitely want more debates. I want America to see over and over again what Trump is.
— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) September 30, 2020
re: #536 Jack Burton
I couldn’t watch it. My GF did. I put headphones on and listened to comedy on Spotify. I just can’t listen to him anymore and I’d rather not have a stroke because of him.
This still holds, as far as I’m concerned.
Nailed it.
re: #543 TarHellion
Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.
Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.
Please. If a large enough fraction of the US electorate looks at that shit show (caused entirely by Trump) and still wants to vote for him, we’re fucked.
Biden did nothing wrong. There is no magic spell that will defeat Trump and his tens of millions of deplorables.
The only thing that makes sense for civilized people to do is to vote and otherwise help as much as we reasonably can.
re: #552 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
Exactly. Trump’s marks are those who respond to male displays of strong aggression. This is why so many older females (who were raised in patriarchy) go for Trump. And why the hate-right (the usual racist gangs) gravitate to Trump.
and why the Republicans got creamed in the 2018 midterms by women.
re: #543 TarHellion
Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.
Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.
Biden did tell him to shut up. However, I don’t think a show of male dominance will move votes. It wasn’t a surprise, and it wasn’t totally successful.
The problem is that Trump managed to drag Biden into the mud and prevent people from noticing that Biden actually had policy positions to put forward.
At least according to a small group of people the NewsHour got together to watch the debates and give their opinions.
re: #557 jaunte
America has had decades of seeing Trump.
Face it, Adam, your fellow Americans (at least a notable fraction of them) are racist and misogynist and poorly educated.
re: #556 Belafon
Point taken. Went out for a smoke at that time.
I think every suburban mother watching that debate felt that if their kid acted like @realDonaldTrump did, they’d smack ‘em upside their head and send them to their room.#Debates2020
— Ace-o-aces (@aceoaces) September 30, 2020
re: #554 jaunte
And the worst president the country has ever had.
re: #559 EPR-radar
Thank you. There’s no way that Trump’s performance tonight sways voters. I’m watching the MSNBC after show and they’re panning Trump’s performance.
re: #563 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus
America has had decades of seeing Trump.
Face it, Adam, your fellow Americans (at least a notable fraction of them) are racist and misogynist and poorly educated.
Most people outside of New York only knew Trump from his show.
I just walked through the other room, and got a listen to what’s being said post debate.
MSM take on this apparently: “People didn’t like Biden sinking to Trumps level. This is the most shameful interaction between two leaders ever.”
JFC…
I think the moderator should have control of the candidates shock collars.
Holy shit…Relatives are having multiple orgasms over Trump’s performance and they are now endlessly talking about how Biden is going to steal Pennsylvania they’re flooding their Facebook pages with the “9 stolen Trump votes in Luzerne County”….
Stonekettle came back.
Biden prepared for the debate with hard work, education, and experience in world affairs, policy, law, and current events.
Trump prepared by guzzling Alex Jones brand yak piss man enhancer, watching snuff flicks, and emotionally abusing orphans.— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 30, 2020
I am deeply, deeply worried about POTUS referencing the “Proud Boys” unprompted in the debate in the manner that he did. He is clearly waaaaaaaay more involved in the day to day management of relations with/winks toward extremist groups than he has thus far allowed to be exposed.
— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) September 30, 2020
It will take several days of punditry, fact-mongering, and flash polling to get any handle on this. Right now, I’m not worried about the next two Pres debates, and Kamala’s should be a light opera.
re: #575 🌹UOJB!
Deplorables are going to deplorable.
re: #575 🌹UOJB!
Holy shit…Relatives are having multiple orgasms over Trump’s performance and they are now endlessly talking about how Biden is going to steal Pennsylvania they’re flooding their Facebook pages with the “9 stolen Trump votes in Luzerne County”….
I peeked at a conservative site’s comments. They are in a different universe.
It’s been a long time since I’ve commented here, but many thanks are owed to my fellow lizards for offering some sanity during this shitstorm of a debate! (My wife is a new citizen and insisted we watch.) Without LGF I would have lost my cool, so thank you all! See what it did to me?!?
BTW, watching a Chappelle’s Show rerun is a great way to destress 😅
re: #570 Patricia Kayden
Biden expected a semi-normal debate. What we got was nothing but shit to throw against the wall. Biden could have deflected better. But still so honestly weird.
re: #575 🌹UOJB!
Holy shit…Relatives are having multiple orgasms over Trump’s performance and they are now endlessly talking about how Biden is going to steal Pennsylvania they’re flooding their Facebook pages with the “9 stolen Trump votes in Luzerne County”….
Your relatives sound like people to completely avoid, like I do with my brother and cousins. But I would taunt them with the fact that it was the GOP’s lawsuit that caused those votes to get tossed.
re: #577 DodgerFan1988
Biden should be more forceful about calling out Trump’s fascism if there’s another debate. Trump sicking racists on voters cannot be allowed to stand.
re: #575 🌹UOJB!
Holy shit…Relatives are having multiple orgasms over Trump’s performance and they are now endlessly talking about how Biden is going to steal Pennsylvania they’re flooding their Facebook pages with the “9 stolen Trump votes in Luzerne County”….
As described, your relatives seem not to be representative, even of Alabamians.
If you’re still undecided at this point, you’re basically those Germans who pretended they weren’t actual Nazis while watching the ash from the crematoriums fall in their yards like snow.
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 30, 2020
This isn’t just Trump’s disrespect for Biden coming through. It’s his disrespect for the election process entirely. This constant litany of interruptions and lies deprives voters of the opportunity to actually hear a real debate.
— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) September 30, 2020
re: #581 Damned Architect
It’s been a long time since I’ve commented here, but many thanks are owed to my fellow lizards for offering some sanity during this shitstorm of a debate! (My wife is a new citizen and insisted we watch.) Without LGF I would have lost my cool, so thank you all! See what it did to me?!?
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BTW, watching a Chappelle’s Show rerun is a great way to destress 😅
You are not alone…My new Apple Watch 6 went off 3X measuring me over 130 and I only listened to the debate on Sirius…
Just pointing out again that the the President outright REFUSED to condemn white supremacy.
Would. Not. Do. It.
re: #587 Teddy’s Person ✌
Teddy’s here to calm frayed nerves.
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re: #545 NetworkKed
When you lose a dishonest talibornagain lackey liar like Rick Santorum…you are gone…
re: #588 jaunte
As if Trump cares about anything but himself. Is anyone really surprised that he behaved like a chimp flinging filth?
re: #587 Teddy’s Person ✌
Aw, hi buddy! I really needed that! 💋💋💋
Trump once again telegraphed that he knows he is going to lose the vote, and his plan is to get his Justices to award him the presidency. It won’t work.
re: #590 Eclectic Cyborg
Just pointing out again that the the President outright REFUSED to condemn white supremacy.
Would. Not. Do. It.
He’s thinking he can get all of the Andrew Jackson votes that way.
re: #595 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Trump once again telegraphed that he knows he is going to lose the vote, and his plan is to get his Justices to award him the presidency. It won’t work.
And to use White Supremacists to intimidate voters.
Holy crap this is a powerful headache.
That was a relatively easy debate to fact check because the president has made the vast majority of these false claims before.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) September 30, 2020
re: #593 Patricia Kayden
As if Trump cares about anything but himself. Is anyone really surprised that he behaved like a chimp flinging filth?
It’s like everything with Trump. It’s not surprising, but it still is shocking because we are decent human beings.
re: #493 NetworkKed
Third talking head up to review on CNN calls it a shitshow. Literally, “a shitshow”.
I NEVER listen to the commentary post-debate, but I heard a little of the CBS feed, and they were horrified! I’ve never heard such a reaction in my 45 years of following politics.
Biden’s sharp enough to not just have remembered all those facts and figures, he remembered that Trump told people to *inject* bleach, not drink it, as many people misremember the advice. So yeah, his brain is still good.
— 🆘Rev Magdalen |This is fascism and I reject it. (@revmagdalen) September 30, 2020
re: #596 Belafon
He’s thinking he can get all of the Andrew Jackson votes that way.
I’m more concerned about the Bull Connor voters declaring themselves poll watchers.
Santorum is stammering like crazy trying to rationalize.
If the Debate was TL;DW here is a summary:
TRUMP screams, yells, tells a bunch of lies, interrupts & talks over everyone
BIDEN gets a bit flustered but stays cool. #BidenHarris #DebateTuesday #Debate2020 #Resist #TrumpIsABully #TrumpInterrupts #TrumpLies #WillYouJustShutUpMan— #VoteBlue Blueberry Pie (@Pie_Overlord) September 30, 2020
re: #588 jaunte
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he’d doesnt give a shit about the voters
This isn’t just Trump’s disrespect for Biden coming through. It’s his disrespect for the election process entirely. This constant litany of interruptions and lies deprives voters of the opportunity to actually hear a real debate.
— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) September 30, 2020
re: #605 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Santorum is stammering like crazy trying to rationalize.
Some might say he’s downright frothy. ///
Well, it was lovely having everyone together to hold hands for this experience, but it is definitely time for a glass of wine and a nice British mystery.
Hasta mañana, all.
What will stick with me from this debate is Trump interjecting while Biden was speaking about his deceased son because he saw an opening to attack his living son.
— Colby Itkowitz (@ColbyItkowitz) September 30, 2020
re: #589 🌹UOJB!
You are not alone…My new Apple Watch 6 went off 3X measuring me over 130 and I only listened to the debate on Sirius…
if you take the watch off your heartrate will drop. ;-)
re: #607 dangerman
Trump’s goal is to avoid indictments and jail
he’d doesnt give a shit about the voters
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re: #610 jaunte
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Biden had the patience of a saint not to go after the Trump brats there.
re: #613 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Biden had the patience of a saint not to go after the Trump brats there.
Joe’s classy too. So, I doubt it even crossed his mind.
re: #615 Teddy’s Person ✌
Joe’s classy too. So, I doubt it even crossed his mind.
Oh, it did, he started to, and then pulled back and said this isn’t about my family or his family, but YOUR family.
re: #605 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Santorum is stammering like crazy trying to rationalize.
Just like that night in 1977 when Ricky crashed a college party we were having! He tried to pick up a girl, she turned around and slapped his face. We laughed. He stuttered. He tried again to cop a feel from another girl. He got slapped again. We doubled down on laughing at him calling him an asshole. He doubled down on stuttering as he ran out…
re: #561 calochortus
Biden did tell him to shut up. However, I don’t think a show of male dominance will move votes. It wasn’t a surprise, and it wasn’t totally successful.
The problem is that Trump managed to drag Biden into the mud and prevent people from noticing that Biden actually had policy positions to put forward.
At least according to a small group of people the NewsHour got together to watch the debates and give their opinions.
In 2016 Hillary Clinton ignored Trump’s bullying antics and put forward all her policy positions and people complained she was “boring”
re: #613 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Yeah, wouldn’t have helped him stay focused on what the people need.
One of the moments that probably won’t get a lot of attention because we’re so used to it, but it’s striking that Trump still can’t fake any empathy for the 205,000 Covid dead at all. He treats them as a number, and a GOOD number at that.
— Schooley (@Rschooley) September 30, 2020
Kinda says how much the whole trump famdamily respects others
An observation from inside the debate hall: Everyone in Biden’s side of the hall is wearing a mask. More than half on Trump’s side, including his four children, are not wearing masks. According to the Cleveland Clinic, it’s a requirement that all guests wear masks.
— Tyler Pager (@tylerpager) September 30, 2020
Just spitballing here but I think watching an abusive narcissist gaslighting, shouting, and spewing threats for an hour and a half might have been a teensy bit of a turn off for just about every woman alive.
— Kaz Weida (@kazweida) September 30, 2020
“Trump can’t open his mouth without a lie falling out of it” - V
re: #622 jaunte
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Biden treats all 205,000 like their lives had meaning and they did.
re: #597 Patricia Kayden
And to use White Supremacists to intimidate voters.
And that won’t work either.
re: #561 calochortus
Biden did tell him to shut up. However, I don’t think a show of male dominance will move votes. It wasn’t a surprise, and it wasn’t totally successful.
The problem is that Trump managed to drag Biden into the mud and prevent people from noticing that Biden actually had policy positions to put forward.
At least according to a small group of people the NewsHour got together to watch the debates and give their opinions.
Biden was able to multi-task. The MSM doesn’t want to report that he could multi-task. They want a lede.
re: #623 BeachDem
It it’s not enforced it’s not a requirement.
The Proud Boys are ecstatic tonight about getting mentioned in the debate tonight.
“Trump basically said to go fuck them up! this makes me so happy,” writes one prominent Proud Boy. pic.twitter.com/hYA7yQVAOn— Mike Baker (@ByMikeBaker) September 30, 2020
re: #624 jaunte
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I predict my MAGA cousin will proclaim she loved Trump’s performance.
Biden did the best he could all things considered. I would have cursed or decked Trump in his ugly face.
re: #633 NO SMOCKING GUN!
Sorry. Probably some of my cousins too.
The authentic frontier gibberish that Agolf Twitler delivered tonight isn’t working in the hinterlands? Well slap me in the face and call me Susan. https://t.co/Dfyrxxd1Y7
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
re: #605 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Santorum is stammering like crazy trying to rationalize.
Hey Rick, this picture never EVER gets old.
Trump didn’t need a drug test. He needs a rabies test.
— Paul Begala (@PaulBegala) September 30, 2020
re: #637 teleskiguy
Luke is undecided my ass.
Luke from Wisconsin (red shirt) says Trump is obnoxious and unpresidential… but that behavior doesn’t affect his bottom line, doesn’t impact his day-to-day life (like the violence he’s seen in Kenosha)
— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) September 30, 2020
Luntz always manages to find a white knuckledragging focus group, and presents it as “America”. Good to hear even his brand of scum couldn’t bring themselves to justify that performative transgression.
I got a feeling there won’t be another debate and I would not be surprised if Pence says tomorrow that he will not debate Kamala.
Chris Wallace’s debate performance tonight is a great reminder that kindergarten teachers are underpaid. #Debates2020
— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) September 30, 2020
Meanwhile, when Frank asks everyone to associate a word or phrase with Biden, the vast majority are positive in nature…. and several people say Biden was much sharper than they expected him to be, exceeded expectations, etc
(brilliant work by Team Trump w/ the senile strategy)— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) September 30, 2020
re: #538 jaunte
Any description of this debate as a shitshow is incomplete if it doesn’t lay the full blame on Trump. He’s a 74 year old toddler.
Real toddlers act the way they do because that’s how they develop. That takes a little of the sting off when they blow up. Trump, however, is Trump. That being said, Biden is naturally calm, and perhaps remembering his boys when they were little.
re: #642 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Luke is undecided my ass.
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Luke is a moron. He doesn’t realize that Trump behaves like a crackhead because he can’t justify himself with facts or logic. How many morons are there? We shall see.
How photos became a weapon in Stalin’s Great Purge… pic.twitter.com/iURD5REFMj
— Giant Military Cats (@giantcat9) September 26, 2020
Here’s the dossier on the Proud Boys, the white supramacist terrorist organization Tangerine Caligula told to “stand back, stand by” tonight. https://t.co/Tby9Y4dEVk
— Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama (@teleskiguy) September 30, 2020
re: #648 NO SMOCKING GUN!
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Birmingham AL TV had a wonderful hour during the Roy Moore/Doug Jones battle. Frank Luntz put together a focus group of Republicans from AL population centers and surveyed them about the High Weirdness that was Judge Moore. He couldn’t believe the shit they came up with: “Yeah, but he’s OUR mall creeper”.
We won anyway.
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I was following tonight’s “debate” here and at Wonkette.
What a crapfest.
I cannot see how this could have moved a single voter toward Trump. I can see it motivating non-participants in elections to vote to end the abuse.
Last night, I noted Gov. Gordon of Wyoming had issued an order to raise the flag today at sunset, despite no public announcement of Justice Bader-Ginsberg’s interment. Since that happened today, I assume Wyoming’s governor had some sort of advance notice. It was still crap to issue a proclamation to that effect.
Tonight’s Trumpenbefehl. Like any other whipped bully, he reverts to piteous begging, in this case trying to grift some money to replace what his coked out minions have stolen.
We just pulled your End-of-Quarter Deadline Donor File:
Supporter: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
End-of-Quarter Gift: MISSINGWe wanted to reach out because we just got off a call with President Trump to review the most recent list of Patriots who contributed to our critical End-of-Quarter Goal, and he noticed your name was MISSING.
There’s not much time left to contribute, and President Trump is counting on his BEST supporters, like YOU, to step up.
This week is critical. Not only is this the FINAL QUARTERLY DEADLINE of the Election but the first Presidential Debate is TODAY.
in Frank Luntz’s focus group, Ruthie from PA (upper right corner) said she was undecided coming into tonight….. but now likes Biden b/c Trump was behaving like a “crackhead” and made the debate impossible to watch pic.twitter.com/NjgvWvnTM9
— Tim Alberta (@TimAlberta) September 30, 2020
Watch some Shane McConkey. It’ll help. https://t.co/h9lCkEj1VX
— Cody Townsend (@codytownsend) September 30, 2020
re: #644 jaunte
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Here’s a baby armadillo, come to bring your blood pressure down.
Are you sure it is coming to bring down my blood pressure and not to give me leprosy?
re: #588 jaunte
Trump’s election and debate ‘strategies’ are identical. In both cases, Trump turns it into a shit show, hoping to find a way to declare victory.
re: #640 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!
I have used that photo for years, you have NO idea of the joy that picture brings out in me.
re: #646 🌹UOJB!
I got a feeling there won’t be another debate and I would not be surprised if Pence says tomorrow that he will not debate Kamala.
No. He will be forced to debate bu trump and his team. they will instruct him to talk over harris. It will not work, but that will be there plan.
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