WATCH LIVE: The First Biden-Trump 2020 Debate

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For starters, this isn’t a real debate. I was a high school debate team nerd and this is nothing like a real debate; it’s a made-for-TV high-stakes game show. But hey, it’s what we got, so I’m gonna grit my teeth, watch the circus, and make snarky sarcastic comments below.

President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden participate in the first 2020 presidential debate in Cleveland, OH. c-span.org

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663 comments

1
(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:00:51pm

GOTV and FT.

2
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:01:12pm

KICK HIS ASS, SEA BASS!!!!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:01:15pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:01:31pm

Okay, everyone get the booze ready so we can make it through this!

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:02:02pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s nap-time for me.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:02:02pm

Alcohol nauseates me. My beverage of this evening is cherry-lime LaCroix seltzer.

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TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:02:11pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Already buzzed

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:02:16pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Okay, everyone get the booze ready so we can make it through this!

Wayyyy ahead of you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:02:21pm

all of the trump wimmin look chonky tonight

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:02:36pm

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:03:23pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

all of the trump wimmin look chonky tonight

How many people are allowed in the venue?

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:03:25pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

all of the trump wimmin look chonky tonight

And they’re not LIKE the evil stepsister, they ARE the evil stepsisters.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:03:32pm

Some more good news ahead of the debate…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:03:42pm

LaCroix tastes like it flavored with fruit ghosts.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:03:42pm

Hey everyone. Sorry it’s been so long. Just hard to type on this phone and ny kid has computer priorty

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:03:45pm

Are they both going to be in the same room or is Joe broadcasting from a different venue?

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TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:03:52pm

C’mon, Joe! For America!

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:04:01pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:04:15pm

re: #14 The Ghost of a Flea

LaCroix tastes like it flavored with fruit ghosts.

I LIKE IT so shutup.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:04:37pm

I wouldn’t trust the social distancing with that crowd. You know where they’ve been.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:04:40pm

re: #11 Decatur Deb

How many people are allowed in the venue?

don’t know, but looks sparse

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:04:43pm

White people. Fix this. Come on.

(Looks at white Trump voters in SCOWL)

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:05:12pm

re: #19 The Pie Overlord!

Bubly is good

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:05:34pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:05:36pm

After my little strokes, and with some advice from one of the physical therapists, I’m rarely drinking on “school nights” anymore.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:05:38pm

I can’t drink while watching the shitshow—I already feel nauseated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:05:43pm

and we begin

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:05:54pm

Candidates will not shake hands, just give each other dirty looks.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:05:55pm

Here we go.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:05:56pm

Evening…… I think I’ll make cookies.

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danarchy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:06:05pm

re: #11 Decatur Deb

How many people are allowed in the venue?

100 total, 80 audience members

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:06:13pm

“How ya doing man?”

LOL Biden

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:06:22pm

Round 1…FIGHT!!

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:06:24pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:06:35pm

Grunt……,

Grunt Grunt……

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Blizard  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:06:37pm

Howdy from Colorado! Tuning in for my usual though infrequent debate commentary. Hope all is well with everyone, and may God/Jah/Allah/Mother Earth help us all!

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:06:39pm

And the yam ambles/shambles to his podium.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:06:39pm

re: #30 Dave In Austin

I bought some cookie dough today. To just eat the cookie dough, of course.

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:06:46pm

Among the million or so other things that bug me about media coverage of this debate is the seemingly inflexible canard that “Trump’s campaign in 2016 was collapsing before the first debate” - I really don’t remember it that way.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:07:09pm

re: #23 Scottish Dragon

Bubly is good

A favorite of Mrs. Fish, and I actually can’t disagree.

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:07:12pm

‘WE’RE SICK OF YOUR MALARKEY YA ORANGE BASTARD!’

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:07:26pm

re: #39 Jay C

Was it just after the cat tape came out?

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Blizard  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:08:04pm

Already a run-on sentence…..

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:08:06pm

He looks like he put on his makeup with a sandblaster.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:08:20pm

Trump already rambling into generalities.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:08:21pm

Oh God! Joe Coughed!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:08:25pm

re: #43 Blizard

Already a run-on sentence…..

and total bullshit

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:08:38pm

re: #44 BeachDem

He looks like he put on his makeup with a sandblaster.

When does he not look like that?

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:08:42pm

“We won, she good.”

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:08:51pm

“We won the election.” That should come as a total shock to the House Repubs…

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:08:54pm

re: #44 BeachDem

He looks like he put on his makeup with a sandblaster.

But does his hair look like $70,000?

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:09:09pm

re: #42 Ace Rothstein

Was it just after the cat tape came out?

Yeah, the one that supposedly “derailed” his campaign

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:09:14pm

re: #46 Dave In Austin

Oh God! Joe Coughed!

HE’S TOO SICK TO BE PRESIDENT!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:10:07pm

re: #19 The Pie Overlord!

I LIKE IT so shutup.

My taste buds are burnt out like a libertine aristocrat struggling harder and harder to find their next thrill, so each to their own. These days everything’s dusted down with a mix of juniper, black pepper, and urfa biber, and I’m not sure what’s next. Mummy powder and Maggi cubes perhaps.

But I stand by the “fruit ghost” statement as accurate with no intended malice or shade on your tastes.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:10:51pm

LOL

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:11:08pm
I’m gonna grit my teeth…

I hope you’re wearing a goalie’s mouth guard.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:11:39pm

Socialism!! B

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:11:50pm

SOCIALIST!

That was quicker than I thought.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:11:57pm

Happy Birthday Breezy

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:11:57pm

re: #55 Ace Rothstein

LOL

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Snorty, Curly, and Moe.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:12:14pm

SOCIALIST! DRINK!

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:12:16pm

re: #57 Dave In Austin

Socialism is so bad, every red hat sent their stimulus check back.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:12:27pm

FucK!!!!

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steve_davis  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:12:45pm

re: #14 The Ghost of a Flea

LaCroix tastes like it flavored with fruit ghosts.

Orange is best. then raz-cranberry. coconut is drinkable.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:12:47pm

re: #63 Dave In Austin

FucK!!!!

What?

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:12:49pm

Joe missing the point, IMO on this first question - the provisions of the ACA are irrelevant : Trump made it a political power issue, Joe should have mentioned that Obama had been “elected” as well in 2016

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:13:03pm

CHYNA—and some ridiculous bullshit

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:13:07pm

Immature fuck keeps interrupting Biden.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:13:12pm

I don’t know……..

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:13:18pm

CUT HIS DAMN MIC!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:13:34pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

CUT HIS DAMN MIC!

Seconded.

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TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:13:49pm

Not a good start

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:14:09pm

Gish fuckin’ Gallop.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:14:14pm

re: #62 Ace Rothstein

Socialism is so bad, every red hat sent their stimulus check back.

Well, it’s been fully established that if the right kind of people get a bail out it’s not socialism.

I seem to recall there being an ideology that in practice was socialism, but only for those in good standing with a nationalist framework….

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:14:33pm

Trump is swinging out of his shoes already.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:14:36pm

Flood the zone with shit.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:14:50pm

And he’s already getting on Chris Wallace’s last nerve. And lying like a fucking rug.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:15:01pm

Just cut his fucking mic.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:15:20pm

Get a hook.

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Blizard  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:15:21pm

Oh. My. God.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:15:21pm

He is such an asshole.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:15:33pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

CUT HIS DAMN MIC!

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TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:15:35pm

At least Wallace is coming back against him

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bratwurst  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:15:37pm

It always comes back to what Susan Collins said to justify her vote for Kavanaugh: because Republicans have failed to eliminate Roe v. Wade so far, gullible idiots should believe they will never succeed.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:15:44pm

Shocker, Donny’s now working the ref.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:16:00pm

I like that Joe is laughing at him. The yam is going to blow a gasket.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:16:11pm

This is fucking unwatchable. Or unlistenable.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:16:17pm

Has any sitting President been this combative in an election year debate?

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:16:23pm

OMG LOL he’s losing. Joe laughing is bringing my joy.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:16:28pm

THE PRICE OF INSULIN IS NOT GOING DOWN

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Blizard  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:16:32pm

Insulin is like water.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:17:07pm

re: #64 steve_davis

See, I can just imagine the Ghibli-style little fruit ghosts that escape the can with that first pop of carbonation….

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:17:10pm

What a circus -

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:17:21pm

Joking aside, adding juniper berries into your black pepper grinder is a great idea.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:17:32pm

“Insulin is like water”???? Did I just hear that right??

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:17:33pm

SHUT THE FUCK UP WHEN JOE IS TALKING, DONALD!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:17:45pm

re: #93 Jay C

What a circus -

Everything is a clown show when Trump is involved.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:17:57pm

All those undecided suburban white women in Pennsylvania (ha!) must be loving watching President Mansplainer run rampant tonight.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:18:03pm

re: #94 The Ghost of a Flea

Joking aside, adding juniper berries into your black pepper grinder is a great idea.

Ok, now I’m trying to think of a joke.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:18:07pm

Pocahontas! Drink!

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:18:20pm

Just walk over and punch him, Joe.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:18:20pm

EVERYTHING TRUMP SAYS IS A LIE

End of debate.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:18:41pm

Joe is on! Already called him a liar and a clown and we’re only 19 minutes in,

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:18:42pm

re: #23 Scottish Dragon

Bubly is good

That’s my choice too. Lots of ‘flavors’.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:19:00pm

He. Won’t. Let. Biden. Talk.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:19:15pm

Trump can’t shut his mouth.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:19:18pm

re: #104 stpaulbear

That’s my choice too. Lots of ‘flavors’.

I haven’t tried it, but now I will.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:19:25pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:19:47pm

The Moderator that would not Moderate the President.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:19:51pm

Apparently he thinks a “win” tonight will be refusing to let Joe talk at all.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:19:57pm
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Camp Waconda  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:20:11pm

Wow

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:20:14pm

Looks like my decision to let you guys watch and lose brain cells was the right call!

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Blizard  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:20:35pm

I hope the other networks will come up with a plan to not allow them to talk over each other like this.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:20:39pm

re: #113 Ace Rothstein

Looks like my decision to let you guys watch and lose brain cells was the right call!

Ditto.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:20:46pm

re: #113 Ace Rothstein

Looks like my decision to let you guys lose brain cells was the right call!

Me like pie!

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:21:08pm

re: #113 Ace Rothstein

Looks like my decision to let you guys watch and lose brain cells was the right call!

Yep. I will never willingly watch Trump live.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:21:21pm

re: #109 Rightwingconspirator

The President already went nuts, upset that he’s debating the moderator rather than Biden, all because Trump can’t shut his mouth.

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:21:29pm

re: #113 Ace Rothstein

It’s always the right call. His voice triggers everything for me, so I can’t listen to him.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:21:42pm

“Will you shut up, man.” Thank you, Joe.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:21:43pm

re: #114 Blizard

I hope the other networks will come up with a plan to not allow them to talk over each other like this.

Short of putting a muzzle on Trump I don’t think it will work.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:21:54pm

WILL YOU SHUT UP MAN

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:22:00pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:22:03pm

WILL YOU SHUT UP, MAN?

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:22:07pm

“Keep yapping man!”

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:22:08pm

KEEP YAPPIN MAN

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:22:11pm

Trump does not like it when Joe ignores him. Keep yappin!

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:22:19pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

“Will you shut up.” Thank you, Joe.

Did he say that??!!

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Blizard  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:22:21pm

“Will you shut up man.” Nice.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:22:36pm

re: #128 Ace Rothstein

Did he say that??!!

He did.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:22:49pm

We’re just minutes away from MALARKEY. (Has Van Jones said the yam is acting presidential yet?)

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:23:08pm

I knew because of the rules this wouldn’t be an actual debate but JFC!!!

I am surprised Chris Wallace didn’t pull the plug already.

We applauded Biden when he told Current Occupant to shut up.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:23:09pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:23:19pm

Three men on stage. It’s a toss up who sucks at their job worse. Chris Wallace or Donald Trump.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:23:24pm

re: #119 plansbandc

It’s always the right call. His voice triggers everything for me, so I can’t listen to him.

Rather than waterboard me for information, make me listen to Trump talk while forcing me to look at pictures of Jared and the Trump spawn.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:23:31pm

My hat is off to Biden for not losing his cool and decking him, or for that matter shooting Trump with a tranquilizer gun.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:23:35pm

re: #114 Blizard

Put them in sealed boxes. Microphones on when it’s their turn. By special presidential arrangement.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:23:45pm

I made a bet with my bookie a month ago that Biden would win. Sounds like I need to get down for some more.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:23:47pm

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Charmingly Persistent  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:23:58pm

I tried. But if they won’t cut his mic there is no debate.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:23:59pm

re: #134 Rightwingconspirator

Three men on stage. It’s a toss up who sucks at their job worse. Chris Wallace or Donald Trump.

Well, I still think it’s Trump, but not by much.

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:24:10pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

Either that or the stroke he didn’t have removed even more filter.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:24:37pm

re: #135 Barefoot Grin

Rather than waterboard me for information, make me listen to Trump talk while forcing me to look at pictures of Jared and the Trump spawn.

“ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, I’LL TALK!!! Just make that whiny bitch voice stop!!!”

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:24:38pm

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:24:54pm

Joe is landing blows.

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:25:10pm

re: #11 Decatur Deb

And can you believe how closely they’re sitting, with no masks?!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:25:12pm

Somewhere in America Hilary Clinton is enjoying the shit out of this.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:25:20pm

re: #140 Charmingly Persistent

I tried. But if they won’t cut his mic there is no debate.

So now his supporters and the MSM will declare that Trump won the debate by a long shot because Biden couldn’t get a word in edgewise. Cool.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:25:45pm

re: #145 BigPapa

Joe is landing blows.

Indeed, Donny’s getting worked up.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:26:29pm

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

Somewhere in America Hilary Clinton is enjoying the shit out of this.

I still say that if Hillary had told that bastard to back the fuck off at that debate where he was hovering over her, she would’ve won.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:26:30pm

Narrator: The governors didn’t say that.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:26:40pm

FAKE NOOZ

Drink!

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:26:42pm

FAKE NEWS!!!
BAD PRESS!,,

SWINE FLU!

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:26:46pm

Oh, fuckface is whining and lying simultaneously. He is such an asshole. Not sure I can take another hour of this.

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:26:56pm

re: #146 geekmom

And can you believe how closely they’re sitting, with no masks?!

Not watching. I’m just here in case he strokes out.

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Blizard  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:27:05pm

re: #137 jaunte

This is kinda what I was thinking.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:27:08pm

20 minutes into this and I’m just muting SCROTUS whenever he starts yapping.
This incompetent mofo is unbearable.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:27:37pm

Wallace swatted Biden down when Trump was responding, but keeps quiet when Biden gets interrupted (again).

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:27:38pm

re: #153 Jay C

FAKE NEWS!!!
BAD PRESS!,,

SWINE FLU!

THERE’S A SALE AT PENNY’S!!!

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cat-tikvah  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:27:39pm

I’ve got the sound off. Closed captions only.
And all you lizards.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:27:59pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:28:22pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:28:37pm

SNIFF!!!!

(drink…)

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:28:42pm

This is a gish gallop goat fuck

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:29:04pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:29:16pm

Trump has no pressure-relief valve in the form of an audience to play to, so he’s just getting more and more worked up as this goes on.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:29:21pm

re: #164 Scottish Dragon

This is a gish gallop goat fuck

That was literally the plan. It’s the only play they’ve got in their book. They are that desperate.

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:29:25pm

I want the Flying Booger Biscuits back. Let’s do this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:29:48pm

re: #157 (((Archangel1)))

20 minutes into this and I’m just muting SCROTUS whenever he stops yapping

You’re watching in silence?

/

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:30:48pm

the 2017-2018 flu killed 61,000 in the US.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:31:22pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:31:29pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:31:33pm

Go Joe. He’s landing blows and Trump is flailing.

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Camp Waconda  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:31:48pm

What a dickhead

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:31:53pm

Asshole’s take on the COVID vaccine is exactly 180. Degrees off: it’s Trump and his Admin who are trying to make the vaccine “political” - and if Trump or anyone thinks one will be available “soon” …. well, I wouldn’t hold by breath (assuming I still have any)

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:31:55pm

He’s pissed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:31:58pm

re: #173 BigPapa

Go Joe. He’s landing blows and Trump is flailing.

He doesn’t need to own the room. He just needs to take the shots when the window is open.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:32:13pm

He argues like a fucking toddler in a sandbox. “Don’t use the word smart with me,” what an asshole.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:32:21pm

Whoever is talking in Joe’s ear is doing a good job

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:32:29pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

He’s pissed.

Joe or trump?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:32:30pm

Fuck the hell off, orange boy.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:32:50pm

re: #171 The Pie Overlord!

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:32:54pm

re: #180 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Joe or trump?

Trump. You could see how badly his ego was bruised by being accused of not being smart.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:32:56pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

He’s pissed.

Good.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:33:01pm

Okay…possibly my only serious comment for the rest of the night. From my perspective as someone who grew up with a narcissistic abuser (that tried to start a cult):

Donald Trump is an abuser, and he’s going to “argue” like an abuser. Really, there’s no way to actually “win” in a direct exchange versus a narcissist since they simply do not live in the world, nothing can penetrate their bad faith and they will never constrain themselves with rules of engagement. Everything is just a power dynamic, there’s no truth, no ethics, and no limits. The depressing reality is that narcissists always push any situation to the absolute strained limit that they think they can get away with, but will immediately assume the victim stance if met with pushback they can’t handle, but will then use victim status to further attack. It doesn’t apply in this situation, but this is true up to and including when they become violent…the minute they start losing they see themselves as the hurt party.

In situ, this means that he’s going to lie as much as possible…but also specifically lie to such as egregious degree that it causes whomever’s he’s speaking at to become upset. At which point their upset-ness is going to be treated as a sign of weakness if they respond with anything short of aggression, and a sign of instability if they respond with aggression.

I bring this up because we’re in a very weird situation where…we’re all kind of being put through narcissistic abuse by Donald Trump, and it is more important that you recognize that moment of distress-overload and take care of yourself than keep watching and get sick with distress.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:33:09pm

“Don’t ever use the word smart with me.”

Accurate self-assessment.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:33:16pm

re: #178 BeachDem

He argues like a fucking toddler in a sandbox. “Don’t use the word smart with me,” what an asshole.

Mr. President, with all the respect you are due, the word “smart” and you don’t even belong in the same goddamn room.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:33:37pm

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

You’re watching in silence?

/

I couldn’t possibly hit the mute button that fast. Watching over the internet since my TV shit the bed. Imagine having to hover over the mouse for two hours.

No, I’m listening. All white males should be listening to the debate. It’s our fault we’re in this mess and that’s dead truth.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:34:06pm

re: #184 Ace Rothstein

Good.

His color is changing. It’s getting Deeper

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:34:07pm

re: #155 Decatur Deb

Not watching. I’m just here in case he strokes out.

I just stopped in to see what what happening. I like the way you think, Sir.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:34:31pm

re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mr. President, with all the respect you are due, the word “smart” and you don’t even belong in the same goddamn hemisphereroom.

Fixed that.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:34:38pm

There can’t possibly be another hour of this. Can there?

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:34:43pm

Joe seems to be having fun and the yam is about to blow out an artery.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:35:00pm

re: #193 BeachDem

Joe seems to be having fun and the yam is about to blow out an artery.

Good.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:35:04pm

#willyoushutupman current trending.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:35:59pm

re: #193 BeachDem

Joe seems to be having fun and the yam is about to blow out an artery.

This is good. Goading Trump into a meltdown is one of the best possible debate plans, especially if it is done in such a way that the both-sides media can’t twist to be an attack on Biden.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:36:09pm

What’s telling is how defensive Trump is. Even when he tries to “attack,” it’s in defense of his BS.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:36:22pm

Fauci probably pissed about Trump name dropping him like this.

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:36:58pm

re: #77 BeachDem

re: #98 i(m)p(each)sos

All those undecided suburban white women in Pennsylvania (ha!) must be loving watching President Mansplainer run rampant tonight.

Coupled with “it’s a joke,” “that’s sarcasm,” etc.

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Ming5000  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:37:28pm

Herman Cain

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:37:43pm

If this is happening at a debate moderated by Fox, LOL one of the next two is going to send Trump to his dirt nap.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:38:03pm

“No negative effect”

Herman Cain might disagree with that.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:38:06pm

re: #199 geekmom

I could

Coupled with “it’s a joke,” “that’s sarcasm,” etc.

Soon he’ll be channeling Ross from Friends—WE WERE ON A BREAK!!!

CHYNAAAA.

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Blizard  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:38:16pm

re: #200 Ming5000

I wish Biden said that.

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SteelPH  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:38:16pm

re: #196 EPR-radar

This is good. Goading Trump into a meltdown is one of the best possible debate plans, especially if it is done in such a way that the both-sides media can’t twist to be an attack on Biden.

They’ll probably claim that Biden isn’t taking anything seriously.

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:38:40pm

re: #77 BeachDem

And he’s already getting on Chris Wallace’s last nerve. And lying like a fucking rug.

How is he staying calm, why hasn’t he cut his mic and GIVE HIM A GAVEL!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:38:47pm

re: #205 SteelPH

They’ll probably claim that Biden isn’t taking anything seriously.

Is there a reason he should? Trump doesn’t say anything serious.

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:38:52pm

Trump seems to have basically have to resort to puerile insults in virtually every and any circumstance: wonder how quickly the RWNJs will jump to admire his “strength”…?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:39:03pm

China plague! Drink!

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:39:25pm

re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mr. President, with all the respect you are due, the word “smart” and you don’t even belong in the same goddamn room.

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SteelPH  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:39:31pm

re: #207 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Is there a reason he should? Trump doesn’t say anything serious.

Not a one.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:39:45pm

re: #208 Jay C

Shall I do tomorrow’s Limbaugh monologue imitation again?

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:40:12pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

Just walk over and punch him, Joe.

Oh, if he only could.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:40:15pm
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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:40:27pm

re: #212 Ace Rothstein

Shall I do tomorrow’s Limbaugh monologue imitation again?

Please don’t.
Tx.

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:40:35pm

re: #206 geekmom

How is he staying calm, why hasn’t he cut his mic and GIVE HIM A GAVEL!

I hope Joe is thinking “This is easier than Paul Ryan!”

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:40:36pm

re: #157 (((Archangel1)))

20 minutes into this and I’m just muting SCROTUS whenever he starts yapping.
This incompetent mofo is unbearable.

You have a strong stomach. I lasted about 30 seconds.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:40:44pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:41:16pm

$750!

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:41:26pm

re: #87 i(m)p(each)sos

This is fucking unwatchable. Or unlistenable.

So why are we watching it?

I need a drink.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:41:59pm
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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:41:59pm

oh, and small point but mr. stable genius

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:42:02pm

good lord my relatives are having orgasms over Trump’s performance…

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:42:13pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:42:15pm

Honestly, I am watching to see how Joe responds to the yams blathering.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:42:17pm

re: #202 Eclectic Cyborg

“No negative effect”

Herman Cain might disagree with that.

Herman Cain’s Twitter feed won’t.

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:42:37pm

Smart move by Joe: addressing the home audience directly.
Trump probably doesn’t even remember millions of people are watching.

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:42:39pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:43:10pm

Wallace is such a fucking joke.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:43:27pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:43:32pm

“I brought back Big 10 football”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:43:58pm

re: #231 Eclectic Cyborg

“I brought back Big 10 football”

Him and the great plague of the Midwest - Stupidity.

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SteelPH  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:44:07pm

re: #220 geekmom

So why are we watching it?

I need a drink.

It’s like a trainwreck. Sometimes, you just can’t look away.

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:44:09pm

“Millions of dollars in taxes”!,

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:44:35pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

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Wouldn’t it be great if he literally died onstage instead of just figuratively?

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:44:51pm
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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:45:05pm

re: #234 Jay C

“Millions of dollars in taxes”!,

And you’ll get to see them in ah two weeks

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:45:05pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:45:23pm

I thought Chris Wallace was supposed to be some kind of exception to the rule that everyone at Fox News is a wingnut shit for brains.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:45:24pm

Not watching but listening on Sirius.

My impression, Wallace is clearly biased to Trump and He’s giving Trump every fucking advantage

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:45:43pm

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:45:49pm

re: #223 🌹UOJB!

good lord my relatives are having orgasms over Trump’s performance…

Wingnuts probably will - but I wonder how the RTW is dealing?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:45:49pm

re: #238 jaunte

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Alright, we’ll all start evading our taxes, and when the federal government goes tits up, we’ll blame you. How’s that sound?

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:46:01pm

re: #239 EPR-radar

I thought Chris Wallace was supposed to be some kind of exception to the rule that everyone at Fox News is a wingnut shit for brains.

He is…because he’s a doormat.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:46:02pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:46:39pm
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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:46:46pm

re: #245 DodgerFan1988

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The bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:46:49pm

re: #240 🌹UOJB!

Not watching but listening on Sirius.

My impression, Wallace is clearly biased to Trump and He’s giving Trump every fucking advantage

Fox News. Nobody from that propaganda shop can be trusted, since the ones that pretend to be credible are just waiting for a chance to weaponize that credibility for the wingnut cause.

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steve_davis  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:46:54pm

re: #235 geekmom

Wouldn’t it be great if he literally died onstage instead of just figuratively?

AS a christian, i don’t want anyone to die just because i hate them. I want him to live for many years and to suffer horribly in a federal supermax.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:47:00pm

You haven’t BEEN President for 47 months you orange shitgibbon.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:47:48pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:48:07pm

re: #249 steve_davis

AS a christian, i don’t want anyone to die just because i hate them. I want him to live for many years and to suffer horribly in a federal supermax.

In poverty. All of my hoped for future histories of Trump include grinding poverty, because nothing would make him feel worse.

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:48:15pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:48:39pm

Trump seems to think Biden ran the country while Obama was President.

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:48:39pm

re: #239 EPR-radar

I thought Chris Wallace was supposed to be some kind of exception to the rule that everyone at Fox News is a wingnut shit for brains.

Apparently not: but it’s hard to see how anybody else would be able to do much better or worse with this clown show….

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:48:59pm
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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:49:00pm

This fucking loser is insane.

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Rightwingconspirator  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:49:15pm

Watching Donald Trump roll over Chris again and again and again as Joe just can’t quite overcome the two of them is just tragic to see. Fuck Chris Wallace and Donald Trump with a mile of barbed wire

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:49:16pm

re: #149 Targetpractice

Indeed, Donny’s getting worked up.

STROKE HIM OUT! STROKE HIM OUT!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:49:30pm

Narrator: Higher stock market does NOT necessarily mean more jobs.

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danarchy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:50:15pm

re: #255 Jay C

Apparently not: but it’s hard to see how anybody else would be able to do much better or worse with this clown show….

Aside from just shutting of his mic I don’t know what the moderator could do. The bastard just wont shut up

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:50:30pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:50:31pm

I hope the moderator of the next debate has a fucking spine.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:50:34pm

Daniel is on it. OOOHH—AND NOW THE ASSHOLE’S GOING AFTER HUNTER.

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:50:37pm

Whoop!
Hunter’ billions from China!!
Money from the mayors wife!

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:50:45pm
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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:50:48pm

re: #166 Targetpractice

Trump has no pressure-relief valve in the form of an audience to play to, so he’s just getting more and more worked up as this goes on.

STROKE. HIM. OUT!!!

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Blizard  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:50:55pm

My blood pressure got too high. In 4 years, that’s the most I’ve actually listened to that horrid man’s voice.

I just turned it off and already feel noticeably better.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:50:57pm

Trump’s brain diverts onto Hunter track.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:50:57pm

CUT HIS FUCKING MIC!

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:51:04pm

Piss off, suckass!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:51:08pm

Hunter Biden…here we go…

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:51:25pm

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope the moderator of the next debate has a fucking spine.

And a mike cutoff button.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:51:34pm

Trump wants Joe to lose his temper and if Joe does lose his temper Fox will orgasm.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:51:36pm
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calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:52:20pm

re: #263 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope the moderator of the next debate has a fucking spine.

And can cut mics.

edit: I see this is not an original thought.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:52:27pm

I was bullied as a kid. This debate is giving me serious flashbacks.

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Ming5000  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:52:45pm

Trump is going rogue.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:52:52pm

re: #258 Rightwingconspirator

Watching Donald Trump roll over Chris again and again and again as Joe just can’t quite overcome the two of them is just tragic to see.

Which is what I was afraid of. I’m counting on y’all to watch and comment on salient points while I watch something else… it sounds like Joe isn’t being direct enough.

re: #274 🌹UOJB!

Joe shouldn’t lose his temper. Instead, Joe should just deride Trump for being an ass.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:53:01pm

Announce a TKO and call the fucking idiocy.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:53:05pm
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TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:53:07pm

Fuck this fucking cocksucker

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:53:25pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:53:40pm

Wallace is all of us right now wanting Trump to shut the fuck up.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:53:49pm

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:54:15pm

re: #283 teleskiguy

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Mr. Biden, soon-to-be President of the United States, if you use the phrase “Fuckface von Clownstick” on live TV, I will happily donate to your campaign.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:54:37pm

This is what I was warning about.

They won’t take away his mike or enforce the rules, and he’s never going to stint himself.

And there are plenty of people who will see that as “strength.”

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:54:38pm

This debate is a total shitshow.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:54:43pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:55:15pm

I’m not watching, but from reading what y’all are posting, it sounds like my prediction earlier that Trump’s entire strategy would be to put on a show for the red hats because he can’t afford to lose a single one of them was correct.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:55:27pm

re: #279 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Which is what I was afraid of. I’m counting on y’all to watch and comment on salient points while I watch something else… it sounds like Joe isn’t being direct enough.

Joe shouldn’t lose his temper. Instead, Joe should just deride Trump for being an ass.

I think Joe is doing great—Trump is a yelling, toddler bully. I;m sure his “base” thinks he’s wonderful, but he’s coming across as the stupid, loathesome asshole he is.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:55:36pm

re: #290 Ace Rothstein

pretty much.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:55:54pm

re: #288 Targetpractice

This debate is a total shitshow.

Agreed. There needs to be enforced mechanisms in the next debate to keep them on topic…and a better fucking moderator.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:56:20pm

re: #291 BeachDem

I think Joe is wiping the floor with him. Trump is flailing like the man baby he is but has not landed an actual blow while Biden has hit body shot after body shot and all sting.

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:56:40pm

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

One of the many reasons why I can’t watch him or listen to him. All he does is bully.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:57:09pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:57:16pm

re: #290 Ace Rothstein

I’m not watching, but from reading what y’all are posting, it sounds like my prediction earlier that Trump’s entire strategy would be to put on a show for the red hats because he can’t afford to lose a single one of them was correct.

That’s not a winning strategy for Trump, unless there is some kind of awful medical discovery that enables sufficiently enthusiastic deplorables to reproduce by cloning themselves.

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:57:25pm

Trump is confusing Joe with Hillary. What a moron.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:57:28pm

re: #297 teleskiguy

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He’s probably into that too.///

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:58:17pm

Trump can remember “Crime Bill”, and “superpredators”, and that’s about the extent of his prep.

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:58:19pm

re: #196 EPR-radar

This is good. Goading Trump into a meltdown is one of the best possible debate plans, especially if it is done in such a way that the both-sides media can’t twist to be an attack on Biden.

We knew Obama’s default setting was cool. Wherever Joe got it from, great job!

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:58:23pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:58:29pm

re: #300 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He’s probably into that too.///

“Alexa…order brain bleach”

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calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:58:30pm

re: #291 BeachDem

I think Joe is doing great—Trump is a yelling, toddler bully. I;m sure his “base” thinks he’s wonderful, but he’s coming across as the stupid, loathesome asshole he is.

Actually several Freepers think Trump looks angry and frustrated and isn’t doing very well. Not all, of course, but it’s notable that some do.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:58:32pm

re: #297 teleskiguy

“Next debate, they need to fit Trump with one of those remote control shock collars for training dogs.”

Fred Sr. should have done that when Donald first demonstrated he would never outgrow the terrible twos.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:59:11pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:59:21pm

re: #302 geekmom

We knew Obama’s default setting was cool. Wherever Joe got it from, great job!

I’ve mentioned before, Obama intentionally chose Biden because of of the man’s personality and how it matched his own. He knew exactly what he was doing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 6:59:35pm

Now it’s top 40 cities…he just keeps goosing the numbers.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:00:08pm

re: #307 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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This debate performance is pure red meat. He’s hitting all the talking points, but he’s not actually landing any blows.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:00:09pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:00:20pm
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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:00:27pm

re: #309 Eclectic Cyborg

Now it’s top 40 cities…he just keeps goosing the numbers.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:00:34pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:01:19pm

re: #314 jaunte

BINGO!!

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:01:54pm
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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:02:07pm

re: #315 Eclectic Cyborg

BINGO!!

Yep.The Chief nails it again…..

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Citizen K  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:03:29pm
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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:03:33pm

LAW AND ORDER!!

* donk donk*

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:04:29pm

re: #318 Citizen K

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The takes are gonna be Reactor No.4 hot tonight: “Yeah, Trump’s performance was total dogshit, BUT Biden interrupted him so it was a draw!”

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calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:05:08pm

“You wouldn’t know a suburb unless you took a wrong turn.”

LOL

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:06:01pm

“He wouldn’t know a suburb unless he took a wrong turn”

BAM

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:06:20pm

re: #319 Jay C

LAW AND ORDER!!

* donk donk*

THE MISADVENTURES OF SHERIFF LOBO!!!*

*Lobo and Deputy Perkins were corrupt as fuck, like Trump and his clan.

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:06:43pm

re: #249 steve_davis

AS a christian, i don’t want anyone to die just because i hate them. I want him to live for many years and to suffer horribly in a federal supermax.

Completely fair point and the cult would probably make him a martyr anyway.

And I do want to see him in prison.

So back to figuratively dying on stage? He passes out and that’s the end.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:06:44pm

The fucking Corporate Controlled Conservative Press is absolutely useless!

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:06:47pm

My head hurts—it is really painful to watch, let alone listen to that asshole.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:06:51pm

re: #321 calochortus

re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg

Joe with the one-liners. That’s a beautiful strategy. If you know Trump is going to just run his mouth, you gotta make sure your sound bites hit home.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:07:23pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:07:50pm

I hope some police forces come out in support of Biden tomorrow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:08:08pm

re: #328 Charles Johnson

THIS x 10

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:08:33pm
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So Cal Greek Hippie  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:08:35pm

Non debate photo

2015: Big Clouds near Point Mugu
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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:08:42pm

re: #328 Charles Johnson

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And now he just drops the BS and starts editorializing.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:08:42pm

re: #328 Charles Johnson

Chris’ dad would’ve told Trump to shut the fuck up if he was still alive.

335
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:08:46pm

What the fuck is Chris trying to lay on Biden about calling the mayors and governors? And once again, SHUT THE FUCK UP WHEN JOE IS TALKING, DONALD

336
Interesting Times  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:10:03pm
337
Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:10:21pm

Antifa and the Left!

338
EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:10:24pm

re: #334 Ace Rothstein

Chris’ dad would’ve told Trump to shut the fuck up if he was still alive.

Everyone knew that Trump would be a motormouth asshole in any debate, so WTF did Chris Wallace’s preparation consist of? Diddly-squat?

339
Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:10:42pm

He can’t say the word “condemn.” He can’t actually do it.

340
Rightwingconspirator  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:10:47pm

Stand Back and Stand by is der Fuerhers order to the Proud Boys Gestapo

341
A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:10:51pm

This is a fucking mess. Trump needs to shut the fuck up. He can’t stop himself. And holding Biden in any way responsible for the violence in Portland is just ridiculous.

342
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:11:09pm

He won’t denounce white supremacy…

343
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:11:10pm

Was Biden my original choice to be the nominee? No. But I’ll never have to worry about Biden being a raging asshole as President.

344
BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:11:35pm

Stand back and stand by. I heard that.

345
NetworkKed  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:11:37pm

re: #332 So Cal Greek Hippie

Non debate photo

[Embedded content]

The clouds are winning the debate!!!

346
Camp Waconda  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:11:42pm

Clinton! Drink!

347
teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:11:42pm
348
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:12:05pm

What’s Trump telling his Proud Boy brownshirts, exactly?

349
Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:12:11pm

SPACE FORCE!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:12:17pm

re: #347 teleskiguy

Yeah, I caught that too. What the fucking fuck.

351
calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:12:31pm

re: #346 Camp Waconda

Clinton! Drink!

Just what I said to Mr. C.

352
Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:12:35pm

As my wife said, the debate won’t change many minds. But that’s ok. We’re in a GOTV election.

353
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:12:36pm

Daniel Dale. Period. Paragraph.

354
Egregious Philbin  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:12:45pm

There ya go, Trump not condemning white supremacists.

355
TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:12:51pm

Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck

356
Rightwingconspirator  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:12:56pm

Can we look at that a whole minute? “Stand By” for what? Election loss?

357
steve_davis  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:12:57pm

re: #320 Targetpractice

The takes are gonna be Reactor No.4 hot tonight: “Yeah, Trump’s performance was total dogshit, BUT Biden interrupted him so it was a draw!”

don’t get worked up about that. media hot takes inside debates are almost always wrong. it normally takes a little while for sanity to kick in and for everyone to realize what actually occurred. this is because there are an enormous number of people in the world who aren’t stupid, but who are barely competent, and it takes them a while to figure stuff out that is obvious to those of us on such sites as, say, littlegreenfootballs.

358
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:13:22pm

Chris Wallace has utterly failed to keep this debate under control.

359
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:13:25pm

re: #356 Rightwingconspirator

Can we look at that a whole minute? “Stand By” for what? Election loss?

That’s how I interpreted it.

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:13:29pm

re: #297 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

I have suggested this. It should be used for both interruptions and lies.

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b_sharp  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:13:29pm

He never mentions the actual numbers, he mentions how many people or groups that ‘like’ him. He’s a superficial braggart with absolutely no substance.

362
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:13:31pm

re: #356 Rightwingconspirator

Can we look at that a whole minute? “Stand By” for what? Election loss?

To storm the capital and start a civil war at Trump’s direction.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:13:32pm

THEY DIDN’T LEAVE THOSE JUDGES TO YOU, YOU ORANGE TURD! MITCH MCCONNELL DID!

364
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:13:40pm

Don;t thank Joe and Obama for the open judgeships, asshole. Thank Mitch Fucking McConnell.

365
DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:13:59pm

“Execute Order 66.”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:14:07pm
367
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:14:46pm
368
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:15:09pm

re: #366 Charles Johnson

Yep and the Dems need to run with that for a campaign ad.

369
Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:15:55pm

PUNCH HIM THE FUCK OUT!

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:16:01pm

Another mistake by Joe, IMO: he really should have shot right back over those “128 judges” - with a subtle reminder that we need a Democratic Senate.

371
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:16:12pm

Suggestion: At the next debate, put a dude behind Trump with a cattle prod who zaps him every time he interrupts.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:16:30pm

Yes, Losers and suckers! Hit em Joe!

373
Egregious Philbin  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:17:09pm

Joe just outclassed him.

Trump is a Sh**gibbon

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:17:11pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:17:16pm

Wallace: “I would like to talk about climate change.”

Biden: “So would I.”

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:17:43pm

re: #371 Eclectic Cyborg

Like the guy cheating at blackjack in “Casino.”

377
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:17:45pm
378
TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:17:54pm

Getting better

379
EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:18:29pm

re: #371 Eclectic Cyborg

Suggestion: At the next debate, put a dude behind Trump with a cattle prod who zaps him every time he interrupts.

Why just when he interrupts? 24/7 would be more like it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:18:39pm

Amazing how Trump just says he doesn’t know who the fuck Beau Biden is.

You’d think his oppo research team would have been on that.

///

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:18:47pm

I have to take off the headset when Orange Gorilla shriek.

382
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:18:50pm

Forest sweeping again.

383
Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:18:53pm

“Forest management.” DRINK!

384
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:03pm

Beautiful air, crystal clean air, Paris accord a disaster—he’s getting all of his big words in. Ooooh now it’s IMMACULATE air and water. Now he;s going to talk about raking the forests. I am going to puke. And now a SIR story.

Oh, and…

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:11pm

re: #355 TarHellion

Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck

Since I’m not watching now — what was this comment in regard to?

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Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:12pm

re: #377 The Pie Overlord!

[Embedded content]

Who put this up?
Is Joe subtly tweeting under the podium?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:13pm

“Immaculate water”

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:15pm

Sir! DRINK!

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b_sharp  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:22pm

He won’t answer the CC/AGW question. He keeps running home to mamma - well worn right-wing talking points.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:37pm
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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:40pm

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:42pm

By showing up, speaking a couple dozen coherent sentences, and leaving on his feet Biden wins the night. He showed he isn’t senile or disabled. Trump and his idiot flock of flying monkeys set that trap for themselves.

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Citizen K  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:52pm

re: #357 steve_davis

don’t get worked up about that. media hot takes inside debates are almost always wrong. it normally takes a little while for sanity to kick in and for everyone to realize what actually occurred. this is because there are an enormous number of people in the world who aren’t stupid, but who are barely competent, and it takes them a while to figure stuff out that is obvious to those of us on such sites as, say, littlegreenfootballs.

Main problem is how much it exposes the impetus through the entire media institution to extend benefit of the doubt only to the Right, and to consistently assume everything is “Good News for Republicans/Bad News for Democrats!’. And it still colors everything they do even when they come down from their “Both Sides” high, at least until they decide on their retrospectives. Look at the revisionist history they’ve pulled about the 2016 debates where Trump was the steely superman that caused Hillary’s poll numbers to collapse by sheer verve.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:19:58pm

re: #385 Hecuba’s daughter

Since I’m not watching now — what was this comment in regard to?

Trump made a comment that sounded like it could be a veiled order for the Proud Boys to start some shit.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:20:21pm

If I were drinking on every “many people say,” I’d be passed out cold by now.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:20:44pm

re: #395 i(m)p(each)sos

If I were drinking on every “many people say,” I’d be passed out cold by now.

I don’t hate my liver that much.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:20:56pm

re: #395 i(m)p(each)sos

If I were drinking on every “many people say,” I’d be passed out cold by now.

Classic weasel words. My journalism professor would have kicked my ass for that shit.

398
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:21:03pm

Trump’s solution is that everyone should buy a new car.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:21:04pm

re: #385 Hecuba’s daughter

Since I’m not watching now — what was this comment in regard to?

2020.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:21:37pm
401
Scottish Dragon  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:21:56pm

Biden would be better served to cut this nightmare short

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:22:03pm

re: #398 jaunte

Trump’s solution is that everyone should buy a new car.

Remember when wingnuts snickered about cutting gas usage by maintaining tire pressure?

403
Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:22:13pm

Electric cars?
ISTR that subsidies for electric vehicles have been phased out in the Trump Admin - am I wrong?

404
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:22:17pm
405
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:23:00pm

re: #395 i(m)p(each)sos

“many people say” = “no one has said”.

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:23:32pm

re: #371 Eclectic Cyborg

Suggestion: At the next debate, put a dude behind Trump with a cattle prod who zaps him every time he interrupts.

Then what do you do if he lies?

407
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:23:36pm
408
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:23:41pm

Unsurprisingly, Biden is showing much more control and composure.

409
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:23:47pm

re: #402 Targetpractice

Yeah, Obama said that, damn him and his facts.

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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:24:15pm

They shoot horses, don’t they?

411
cat-tikvah  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:24:19pm

re: #406 geekmom

That’s what the dog collar is for.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:24:23pm

Loud and stupid may win his base, but Trump is not going to convince many fence-sitters tonight.

413
Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:24:54pm
414
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:24:58pm

Trump seems to think he is debating Obama.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:25:21pm

re: #412 Targetpractice

Loud and stupid may win his base, but Trump is not going to convince many fence-sitters tonight.

Which was his entire strategy. It’s nothing but a show for the red hats.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:25:22pm

re: #414 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump seems to think he is debating Obama.

He’s just reading from his ‘16 script.

417
teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:25:28pm
418
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:25:37pm

re: #414 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump seems to think he is debating Obama Bernie Sanders.

419
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:26:01pm

Anyone who says trump won this debate must play a mean pinball.

CHYYYHNNNNNAAAA

420
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:26:10pm

re: #414 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump seems to think he is debating Obama.

I would pay a lot of money to watch that bloodbath.

421
DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:26:43pm
422
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:27:02pm

Story is from January. He definitely said that.

423
Jebediah, RBG  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:27:37pm

re: #406 geekmom

Then what do you do if he lies?

Use the cattle prod in your other hand.

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:28:19pm

re: #397 Eclectic Cyborg

Classic weasel words. My journalism professor would have kicked my ass for that shit.

Those of us who worked in journalism learned not to do that quickly.

425
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:28:27pm
426
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:28:42pm

I turned the TV over to the debate FOR ONE SECOND AND ON MUTE, and Trump’s face is drenched in sweat and red as a beet.

427
GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:29:01pm

re: #403 Jay C

Electric cars?
ISTR that subsidies for electric vehicles have been phased out in the Trump Admin - am I wrong?

They have been phased out.

428
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:29:01pm

re: #425 The Pie Overlord!

Yep, he got Biden totally twisted around with the Green New Deal crap.

429
geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:29:12pm

re: #401 Scottish Dragon

Biden would be better served to cut this nightmare short

Um, what?

430
(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:29:20pm
431
calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:29:57pm

I think Trump’s performance has deteriorated over the course of the debate.

432
stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:30:14pm

re: #426 Ace Rothstein

I turned the TV over to the debate FOR ONE SECOND AND ON MUTE, and Trump’s face is drenched in sweat and red as a beet.

I hope Joe holds up a couple of urine sample cups before the end of the debate.

433
calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:30:21pm

Look at Biden’s expression while Trump is raving.

434
Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:30:25pm

re: #427 GlutenFreeJesus

They have been phased out.

So another Trump BS lie.

And “coup”?

435
Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:30:33pm

re: #431 calochortus

I think Trump’s performance has deteriorated over the course of the debate.

The drugs were wearing off.

436
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:30:47pm

Strong closing, Joe.

437
Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:30:53pm

Question about election integrity, Trump continues the airing of grievances.

438
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:31:31pm

Now he’s ranting about Obama and Flynn.

439
geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:31:36pm

re: #414 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump seems to think he is debating Obama.

I would have loved to see that.

440
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:31:43pm

re: #434 Jay C

So another Trump BS lie.

And “coup”?

Yes, the coup was performed by the entire DC establishment which explains why Trump is still President.

441
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:31:48pm

America’s Disgrace

442
DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:31:56pm
443
Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:32:27pm

I thought this debate was only an hour and a half. What’s this overtime BS?

444
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:32:29pm

re: #439 geekmom

I would have loved to see that.

We all would have.

445
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:32:47pm

re: #443 Targetpractice

Injury time, like soccer.

446
Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:33:17pm

re: #445 Ace Rothstein

Injury time, like soccer.

Then Needy Amin should have been issued a red card ages ago.

447
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:33:24pm
448
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:33:26pm

re: #442 DodgerFan1988

Expect many more of these in the next 24 hours.

449
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:33:41pm

Now he;s just throwing shitu at the fan about the ballots. It’s after 10:30, PULL THE FUCKING PLUG ALREADY.

450
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:34:09pm

re: #443 Targetpractice

I thought this debate was only an hour and a half. What’s this overtime BS?

They didn’t actually start until around 9:10 ET

451
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:34:51pm
452
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:34:58pm
453
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:35:40pm

The mail carrier in Virginia Trump was talking about? They were busted for changing votes to Republican.

Shocking, I know.

454
Rightwingconspirator  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:35:48pm

Worst theater ever. By the way, love to see how many votes shift as a net change from this forlorn display of journalistic incompetence.

455
stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:35:55pm

re: #449 BeachDem

Now he;s just throwing shitu at the fan about the ballots. It’s after 10:30, PULL THE FUCKING PLUG ALREADY.

It looks like Stonekettle gave up on it about 15 minutes ago.

456
Egregious Philbin  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:36:23pm

Answer the question Trump….

He won’t….

457
geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:36:24pm

I lost track of the drinking points but still polished off my Bailey’s.

I have what would normally be called a pleasant buzz that hasn’t given me any relief from this.

458
Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:36:44pm

re: #454 Rightwingconspirator

Worst theater ever. By the way, love to see how many votes shift as a net change from this forlorn display of journalistic incompetence.

My guess is zero, but that may just be me…..

459
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:37:08pm

Oh this should be good.

460
bratwurst  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:37:08pm
461
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:37:12pm

Trump immediately calls for polling place interference.

462
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:37:42pm

From my brother: “I’d say drink anytime Trump lies or makes something up, but I don’t want to end up getting my stomach pumped.”

463
b_sharp  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:37:52pm

re: #456 Egregious Philbin

Answer the question Trump….

He won’t….

Trump’s pockets are full of red herrings.

464
Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:38:00pm

re: #458 Jay C

My guess is zero, but that may just be me…..

If Trump didn’t change the trend of the last six months, he lost big-time.

465
🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:38:12pm
466
Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:38:36pm

re: #463 b_sharp

Trump’s pockets are full of red herrings.

He needs those to bait his breath.

467
Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:38:42pm

Trump gets asked if he’ll pledge not to declare victory on Election Night and if he’ll accept the final result, does neither and instead stokes more fear of “fraud.”

468
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:38:48pm

Biden immediately answers “Yes”. THAT is how you handle a question like that.

469
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:38:53pm

Trump ranting likely a maniac clearly knows he is going to lose.

470
Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:39:16pm

Is it over?

471
TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:39:30pm

Fuck!

472
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:39:42pm

Jesus.

473
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:39:44pm

And he ends with a big lie about Philly today—we already dissected that bullshit earlier. I hate that man with every fiber of my being.

474
Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:39:49pm

FUCKIN’ FINALLY!!!

475
b_sharp  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:39:54pm

re: #470 Patricia Kayden

Is it over?

Finally.
What a shitshow.

476
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:39:56pm

Another mark of an abuser: always tries to get the last word.

477
TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:39:57pm

He let himself be dominated

478
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:40:12pm

J. FUCKING. C. that was a total shitshow.

479
Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:40:17pm

re: #471 TarHellion

Fuck!

Exclamations with no context are like numbers without units. 3!

480
i(m)p(each)sos  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:40:22pm

Wow. The passion between Trump and Melania. You can’t fake love like that.

481
teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:40:26pm

That was borderline traumatic.

482
Egregious Philbin  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:40:40pm

Not a debate, a disgrace. Trump is a petulant 3 year old whining baby.

483
Blizard  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:40:46pm

re: #476 Eclectic Cyborg

Another mark of an abuser: always tries to get the last word.

Truth.

484
A Mom Anon  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:41:05pm

re: #467 Targetpractice

That shit about the “poll watchers” being denied access to polls is such crap. That’s Don Jr.’s pet project for voter intimidation.

485
dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:41:13pm

did I miss anything? //

486
Skandal  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:41:21pm
487
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:41:23pm

ABC commentator: “That was the worst debate ever”

488
b_sharp  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:41:32pm

Trump’s the Gish Gallop dog-whistle snake-oil salesman of politics.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:41:38pm

The big takeaway from tonight about Trump’s performance: He would not answer a single question. Every “answer” was either a direct attack on Biden or a direct attack on Democrats. He would not stop deflecting.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:41:39pm

Co-sign.

491
stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:41:43pm

Chris Wallace is the Mitch McConnell of Bill O’Reillys.

492
Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:41:55pm

Dana Bash on CNN:

“That was a shitshow”.

493
NetworkKed  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:42:06pm

Third talking head up to review on CNN calls it a shitshow. Literally, “a shitshow”.

494
cat-tikvah  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:42:11pm

On behalf of every Philadelphian, FUCK YOU DONNY!

495
b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:42:19pm

Wow

496
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:42:26pm

re: #490 jaunte

I’m Ace Rothstein and I approve this message.

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Targetpractice  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:42:34pm

BIAB, off to work I go. Ugh.

498
Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:43:00pm

re: #477 TarHellion

He let himself be dominated

Who?

499
retired cynic  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:43:04pm

My ears are ringing. I hate that disgusting excuse for a human being.

500
(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:43:07pm
501
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:43:32pm

Key observation:

Number of times Biden addressed the American public: At least 10

Number of times Trump addressed the American public: 0

502
b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:43:47pm

What a mess. Biden didn’t cower down and if that is senility then sign me up.

503
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:44:01pm

I want to thank you all for suffering with me through this abomination. Couldn’t have done it without you.

504
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:44:25pm

Chris Christie complaining about Biden using “name calling and insulting language”

505
Jay C  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:44:36pm

Jeeezus, was Chris Christie watching the same debate we were?
What a hack

506
sagehen  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:44:43pm

re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg

“He wouldn’t know a suburb unless he took a wrong turn”

BAM

I thought “Putin’s puppy” was the best line.

(unless it was Putin’s puppet and I misheard? But it sure sounded like puppy.)

507
Skandal  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:44:49pm
508
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:44:56pm

re: #503 BeachDem

Reptiles looking after fellow reptiles. The LGF way.

509
dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:45:07pm

this is what flailing looks like

get used to it from nov 4 to 1/20/21

510
Damned Architect  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:45:12pm

re: #491 stpaulbear

Chris Wallace is the Mitch McConnell of Bill O’Reillys.

I’m not sure what that means, but it sounds right somehow

511
Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:45:20pm

re: #492 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

Dana Bash on CNN:

“That was a shitshow”.

That’s what they’re going to be if the moderators don’t control Trump, and the only good way to do that is to cut off the mics.

From what I’ve read here, the two things I would push are the Biden remained calm, and Trump used Biden’s dead veteran son to mount attacks.

512
TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:45:21pm

re: #498 Patricia Kayden

Sorry but I just feel like an abuse victim.

513
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:45:21pm

re: #504 Eclectic Cyborg

Chris Christie complaining about Biden using “name calling and insulting language”

And that is why I’m watching MSNBC.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:45:42pm

re: #504 Eclectic Cyborg

Chris Christie complaining about Biden using “name calling and insulting language”

That’s fucking rich.

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calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:45:47pm

re: #503 BeachDem

I want to thank you all for suffering with me through this abomination. Couldn’t have done it without you.

You’re welcome. ;) The hardest part for me was listening to Mr. C. yelling at the TeeVee.

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b.d. (Dump Coughing Don!)  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:45:51pm

re: #512 TarHellion

Sorry but I just feel like an abuse victim.

That debate was triggering

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TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:46:23pm

Wallace should have cut shit off earlier, There should have been a mute button.

518
Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:46:38pm

re: #486 Skandal

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Best reaction. Yep, even without watching Trump’s meltdown, I know that this debate didn’t help him win any votes.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:46:41pm

re: #512 TarHellion

Sorry but I just feel like an abuse victim.

We’ve been abused by this asshole from the minute he got in his mind to run for President.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:46:56pm

521
cat-tikvah  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:47:01pm

from PA State Rep Brian Sims, who represents Philly

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:47:08pm

If I had watched all 90 minutes of this shit tonight, I would’ve ended up with another torn artery and a trip to the hospital again.

523
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:47:30pm
524
dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:47:57pm

re: #503 BeachDem

I want to thank you all for suffering with me through this abomination. Couldn’t have done it without you.

we watched a patriotic and stirring episode if madame secretary

condemning nationalism

525
TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:48:16pm

But Biden should know this is not 1972. Or 1992. This is now. But go back to basics.

This is America!

526
cat-tikvah  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:48:21pm

re: #508 Ace Rothstein

I would not have made it to this day without all of you.
Thank you for helping me stay sane.

527
Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:48:46pm

re: #519 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We’ve been abused by this asshole from the minute he got in his mind to run for President.

Revenge is the best therapy. Get out the fucking vote.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:48:46pm

Thanks to all who watched and commented so that I didn’t have to. I clicked over to cspan’s website to get an occasional video. I really hope the pundit class is specific about why this was a shitshow. Wallace is a hack, and should be called out by every decent journalist.

Trump was a bullying asshole, and it sounds like Biden held his own.

Joe was like every parent alive whose had a toddler meltdown in a grocery store. Since he couldn’t up and leave, there really weren’t many good options available to him.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:49:37pm

re: #527 Decatur Deb

Revenge is the best therapy.

I look forward to it. I want to be part of the team that sends him to hell.

530
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:49:41pm

If they want more debates, they’re going to have to put Trump in a soundproof box with a cutoff on his mic. He can’t follow the rules.

531
Egregious Philbin  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:49:44pm

Dana Bash, CNN: “This was a shitshow”

532
(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:49:44pm

Welp, that’s that.
Watching that with the rest of you fine folks felt like group therapy at times.
A group therapy where the trauma is unfolding in real time, but group therapy nonetheless..

533
plansbandc  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:49:54pm

re: #519 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

This is exactly right.

534
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:49:55pm

re: #515 calochortus

You’re welcome. ;) The hardest part for me was listening to Mr. C. yelling at the TeeVee.

Even before COVID, I generally avoided debate watch parties because I just want to scream into the abyss all by my lonesome. (Typing with you folks is much more rewarding)

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b_sharp  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:50:18pm

re: #519 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

We’ve been abused by this asshole from the minute he got in his mind to run for President.

His tactics have always included bullying. He thinks it’s the road to accomplishment. Human civilizations have progressed faster during times of cooperation than conflict, but he thinks his methods are superior.

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Jack Burton  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:50:39pm

I couldn’t watch it. My GF did. I put headphones on and listened to comedy on Spotify. I just can’t listen to him anymore and I’d rather not have a stroke because of him.

This still holds, as far as I’m concerned.

…I say no debates. It’s like playing chess with a pigeon. He’s not debating in good faith. He rambles like a drunk. Everything he says is a lie. He has a vocabulary of about 125 words and to say anything else needs to construct it from those 125 words somehow so it takes him 5 times as long to get a point across, if he even has one. Listening to Trump talk is like listening to that weird speech from the hotel parking lot in John From Cincinnati except that on top of it he’s an asshole.

(littlegreenfootballs.com)

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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:51:07pm

re: #528 Teddy’s Person ✌

Thanks to all who watched and commented so that I didn’t have to. I clicked over to cspan’s website to get an occasional video. I really hope the pundit class is specific about why this was a shitshow. Wallace is a hack, and should be called out by every decent journalist.

Trump was a bullying asshole, and it sounds like Biden held his own.

Joe was like every parent alive whose had a toddler meltdown in a grocery store. Since he couldn’t up and leave, there really weren’t many good options available to him.

sounds like Wallace didn’t do his “serious journalist” career any favors

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:51:15pm

Any description of this debate as a shitshow is incomplete if it doesn’t lay the full blame on Trump. He’s a 74 year old toddler.

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plansbandc  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:51:32pm

There is no reason to have any more debates. They will all be like this one.

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Skandal  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:51:36pm
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calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:51:50pm

re: #534 BeachDem

Even before COVID, I generally avoided debate watch parties because I just want to scream into the abyss all by my lonesome. (Typing with you folks is much more rewarding)

I don’t watch a lot of debates, but I felt I needed to gauge whether Trump was going to be putting on a creditable performance.

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BigPapa  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:52:02pm

re: #538 jaunte

Any description of this debate as a shitshow is incomplete if it doesn’t lay the full blame on Trump. He’s a 74 year old toddler.

Wallace is calling him an abuser. On point. Booths, mics with cutoff switches.

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TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:52:08pm

Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.

Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:52:47pm

re: #539 plansbandc

There is no reason to have any more debates. They will all be like this one.

Exactly. Stop treating Trump as if he was a normal president. He’s not. He’s a fascist and White Supremacist.

545
NetworkKed  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:52:54pm

CNN is broadly condemning Trump’s performance. Even Rick “the” Santorum says this was really bad for him.

546
Dr Lizardo  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:53:01pm

re: #536 Jack Burton

Listening to Trump talk is like that almost-legendary Pepe Silivia bit from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

Except far less coherent.

547
(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:53:04pm
548
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:53:05pm

re: #541 calochortus

I don’t watch a lot of debates, but I felt I needed to gauge whether Trump was going to be putting on a creditable performance.

He didn’t.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:53:08pm
550
Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:53:26pm

re: #543 TarHellion

Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.

Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.

Biden did tell him to shut up.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:53:39pm

re: #537 dangerman

sounds like Wallace didn’t do his “serious journalist” career any favors

19th Century Fox has NO serious journalists. But they do have endless Presstitutes…

BTW I just got an e-mail from my friend in France who said that the folks who watch it with him all replied…What the hell are we seeing?????

552
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:53:42pm

re: #543 TarHellion

Exactly. Trump’s marks are those who respond to male displays of strong aggression. This is why so many older females (who were raised in patriarchy) go for Trump. And why the hate-right (the usual racist gangs) gravitate to Trump.

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b_sharp  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:53:56pm

re: #543 TarHellion

Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.

Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.

He did, more or less, a couple of times.

554
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:53:59pm

re: #550 Patricia Kayden

And called him a clown.

555
dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:54:32pm

re: #549 jaunte

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ettd

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:54:34pm

re: #543 TarHellion

Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.

Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.

557
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:54:37pm
558
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:54:53pm

re: #536 Jack Burton

I couldn’t watch it. My GF did. I put headphones on and listened to comedy on Spotify. I just can’t listen to him anymore and I’d rather not have a stroke because of him.

This still holds, as far as I’m concerned.

(littlegreenfootballs.com)

Nailed it.

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:55:46pm

re: #543 TarHellion

Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.

Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.

Please. If a large enough fraction of the US electorate looks at that shit show (caused entirely by Trump) and still wants to vote for him, we’re fucked.

Biden did nothing wrong. There is no magic spell that will defeat Trump and his tens of millions of deplorables.

The only thing that makes sense for civilized people to do is to vote and otherwise help as much as we reasonably can.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:55:49pm

re: #552 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Exactly. Trump’s marks are those who respond to male displays of strong aggression. This is why so many older females (who were raised in patriarchy) go for Trump. And why the hate-right (the usual racist gangs) gravitate to Trump.

and why the Republicans got creamed in the 2018 midterms by women.

561
calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:55:51pm

re: #543 TarHellion

Sorry, but this wasn’t good. Not a big mover, but he still showed “male” dominance. At best a wash. But my fear is that it moves votes in NC, PA and WI.

Biden should have told him to shut the fuck up.

Biden did tell him to shut up. However, I don’t think a show of male dominance will move votes. It wasn’t a surprise, and it wasn’t totally successful.

The problem is that Trump managed to drag Biden into the mud and prevent people from noticing that Biden actually had policy positions to put forward.
At least according to a small group of people the NewsHour got together to watch the debates and give their opinions.

562
IngisKahn  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:56:08pm

563
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:56:10pm

re: #557 jaunte

America has had decades of seeing Trump.

Face it, Adam, your fellow Americans (at least a notable fraction of them) are racist and misogynist and poorly educated.

564
TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:56:17pm

re: #556 Belafon

Point taken. Went out for a smoke at that time.

565
b_sharp  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:56:29pm

re: #554 jaunte

And called him a clown.

At least twice.

566
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:57:00pm

re: #562 IngisKahn

Yes, please.

567
Ace-o-aces  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:57:10pm
568
Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:57:20pm

re: #562 IngisKahn

Yes please!!

569
Ace Rothstein  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:57:22pm

re: #554 jaunte

And the worst president the country has ever had.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:57:25pm

re: #559 EPR-radar

Thank you. There’s no way that Trump’s performance tonight sways voters. I’m watching the MSNBC after show and they’re panning Trump’s performance.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:57:30pm

re: #563 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

America has had decades of seeing Trump.

Face it, Adam, your fellow Americans (at least a notable fraction of them) are racist and misogynist and poorly educated.

Most people outside of New York only knew Trump from his show.

572
LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:57:46pm

re: #565 b_sharp

At least twice.

Also called him a liar several times.

573
Jack Burton  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:58:59pm

I just walked through the other room, and got a listen to what’s being said post debate.

MSM take on this apparently: “People didn’t like Biden sinking to Trumps level. This is the most shameful interaction between two leaders ever.”

JFC…

574
Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:59:22pm

I think the moderator should have control of the candidates shock collars.

575
🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:59:35pm

Holy shit…Relatives are having multiple orgasms over Trump’s performance and they are now endlessly talking about how Biden is going to steal Pennsylvania they’re flooding their Facebook pages with the “9 stolen Trump votes in Luzerne County”….

576
stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:59:47pm

Stonekettle came back.

577
DodgerFan1988  Sep 29, 2020 • 7:59:57pm
578
Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:00:04pm

It will take several days of punditry, fact-mongering, and flash polling to get any handle on this. Right now, I’m not worried about the next two Pres debates, and Kamala’s should be a light opera.

579
Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:00:08pm

re: #575 🌹UOJB!

Deplorables are going to deplorable.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:00:43pm

re: #575 🌹UOJB!

Holy shit…Relatives are having multiple orgasms over Trump’s performance and they are now endlessly talking about how Biden is going to steal Pennsylvania they’re flooding their Facebook pages with the “9 stolen Trump votes in Luzerne County”….

I peeked at a conservative site’s comments. They are in a different universe.

581
Damned Architect  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:01:13pm

It’s been a long time since I’ve commented here, but many thanks are owed to my fellow lizards for offering some sanity during this shitstorm of a debate! (My wife is a new citizen and insisted we watch.) Without LGF I would have lost my cool, so thank you all! See what it did to me?!?

My heart rate never does this!

BTW, watching a Chappelle’s Show rerun is a great way to destress 😅

582
TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:01:21pm

re: #570 Patricia Kayden

Biden expected a semi-normal debate. What we got was nothing but shit to throw against the wall. Biden could have deflected better. But still so honestly weird.

583
Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:01:27pm

re: #575 🌹UOJB!

Holy shit…Relatives are having multiple orgasms over Trump’s performance and they are now endlessly talking about how Biden is going to steal Pennsylvania they’re flooding their Facebook pages with the “9 stolen Trump votes in Luzerne County”….

Your relatives sound like people to completely avoid, like I do with my brother and cousins. But I would taunt them with the fact that it was the GOP’s lawsuit that caused those votes to get tossed.

584
Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:01:30pm

re: #577 DodgerFan1988

Biden should be more forceful about calling out Trump’s fascism if there’s another debate. Trump sicking racists on voters cannot be allowed to stand.

585
Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:01:40pm

re: #575 🌹UOJB!

Holy shit…Relatives are having multiple orgasms over Trump’s performance and they are now endlessly talking about how Biden is going to steal Pennsylvania they’re flooding their Facebook pages with the “9 stolen Trump votes in Luzerne County”….

As described, your relatives seem not to be representative, even of Alabamians.

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:01:49pm
587
Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:02:18pm

Teddy’s here to calm frayed nerves.

588
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:02:30pm
589
🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:02:34pm

re: #581 Damned Architect

It’s been a long time since I’ve commented here, but many thanks are owed to my fellow lizards for offering some sanity during this shitstorm of a debate! (My wife is a new citizen and insisted we watch.) Without LGF I would have lost my cool, so thank you all! See what it did to me?!?

[Embedded content]

BTW, watching a Chappelle’s Show rerun is a great way to destress 😅

You are not alone…My new Apple Watch 6 went off 3X measuring me over 130 and I only listened to the debate on Sirius…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:02:48pm

Just pointing out again that the the President outright REFUSED to condemn white supremacy.

Would. Not. Do. It.

591
calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:02:51pm

re: #587 Teddy’s Person ✌

Teddy’s here to calm frayed nerves.

[Embedded content]

Thank heavens! Just in time.

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:02:55pm

re: #545 NetworkKed

When you lose a dishonest talibornagain lackey liar like Rick Santorum…you are gone…

593
Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:03:33pm

re: #588 jaunte

As if Trump cares about anything but himself. Is anyone really surprised that he behaved like a chimp flinging filth?

594
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:03:34pm

re: #587 Teddy’s Person ✌

Aw, hi buddy! I really needed that! 💋💋💋

595
NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:03:36pm

Trump once again telegraphed that he knows he is going to lose the vote, and his plan is to get his Justices to award him the presidency. It won’t work.

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Belafon  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:03:40pm

re: #590 Eclectic Cyborg

Just pointing out again that the the President outright REFUSED to condemn white supremacy.

Would. Not. Do. It.

He’s thinking he can get all of the Andrew Jackson votes that way.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:04:12pm

re: #595 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump once again telegraphed that he knows he is going to lose the vote, and his plan is to get his Justices to award him the presidency. It won’t work.

And to use White Supremacists to intimidate voters.

598
Rightwingconspirator  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:04:13pm

Holy crap this is a powerful headache.

599
Ace-o-aces  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:05:11pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:05:50pm

re: #593 Patricia Kayden

As if Trump cares about anything but himself. Is anyone really surprised that he behaved like a chimp flinging filth?

It’s like everything with Trump. It’s not surprising, but it still is shocking because we are decent human beings.

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Sherlock Hound  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:06:55pm

re: #493 NetworkKed

Third talking head up to review on CNN calls it a shitshow. Literally, “a shitshow”.

I NEVER listen to the commentary post-debate, but I heard a little of the CBS feed, and they were horrified! I’ve never heard such a reaction in my 45 years of following politics.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:07:00pm
603
Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:07:18pm

re: #596 Belafon

He’s thinking he can get all of the Andrew Jackson votes that way.

I’m more concerned about the Bull Connor voters declaring themselves poll watchers.

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:07:46pm

re: #587 Teddy’s Person ✌

Teddy’s here to calm frayed nerves.

[Embedded content]

The Beach Boys [Pet Sounds] - Don’t Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulders) ((Stereo Remaster))

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:07:58pm

Santorum is stammering like crazy trying to rationalize.

606
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:08:30pm
607
dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:08:32pm

re: #588 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Trump’s goal is to avoid indictments and jail

he’d doesnt give a shit about the voters

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:08:47pm

re: #605 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Santorum is stammering like crazy trying to rationalize.

Some might say he’s downright frothy. ///

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calochortus  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:09:04pm

Well, it was lovely having everyone together to hold hands for this experience, but it is definitely time for a glass of wine and a nice British mystery.

Hasta mañana, all.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:09:12pm
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dangerman  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:09:39pm

re: #589 🌹UOJB!

You are not alone…My new Apple Watch 6 went off 3X measuring me over 130 and I only listened to the debate on Sirius…

if you take the watch off your heartrate will drop. ;-)

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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:09:52pm

re: #607 dangerman

Trump’s goal is to avoid indictments and jail

he’d doesnt give a shit about the voters

[Embedded content]

Don’t think of us as voters, think of us as jurors.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:10:03pm

re: #610 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Biden had the patience of a saint not to go after the Trump brats there.

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(((Archangel1)))  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:10:26pm

Post-debate therapeutic kittehs:

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Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:10:53pm

re: #613 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Biden had the patience of a saint not to go after the Trump brats there.

Joe’s classy too. So, I doubt it even crossed his mind.

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retired cynic  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:11:43pm

re: #615 Teddy’s Person ✌

Joe’s classy too. So, I doubt it even crossed his mind.

Oh, it did, he started to, and then pulled back and said this isn’t about my family or his family, but YOUR family.

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:12:11pm

re: #504 Eclectic Cyborg

WTAF?!

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:12:35pm

re: #605 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Santorum is stammering like crazy trying to rationalize.

Just like that night in 1977 when Ricky crashed a college party we were having! He tried to pick up a girl, she turned around and slapped his face. We laughed. He stuttered. He tried again to cop a feel from another girl. He got slapped again. We doubled down on laughing at him calling him an asshole. He doubled down on stuttering as he ran out…

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:12:38pm

re: #561 calochortus

Biden did tell him to shut up. However, I don’t think a show of male dominance will move votes. It wasn’t a surprise, and it wasn’t totally successful.

The problem is that Trump managed to drag Biden into the mud and prevent people from noticing that Biden actually had policy positions to put forward.
At least according to a small group of people the NewsHour got together to watch the debates and give their opinions.

In 2016 Hillary Clinton ignored Trump’s bullying antics and put forward all her policy positions and people complained she was “boring”

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:12:50pm

re: #613 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah, wouldn’t have helped him stay focused on what the people need.

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TarHellion  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:14:49pm

Because Pearl Harbor sucked…

Team America - Pearl Harbor Sucked

622
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:15:58pm
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BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:16:14pm

Kinda says how much the whole trump famdamily respects others

624
jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:16:37pm
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b_sharp  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:16:48pm

“Trump can’t open his mouth without a lie falling out of it” - V

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:17:04pm

re: #622 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Biden treats all 205,000 like their lives had meaning and they did.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:18:11pm

Kamala on CNN

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geekmom  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:18:13pm

re: #528 Teddy’s Person ✌

This times a googol.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:18:47pm

re: #597 Patricia Kayden

And to use White Supremacists to intimidate voters.

And that won’t work either.

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stpaulbear  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:19:39pm

re: #561 calochortus

Biden did tell him to shut up. However, I don’t think a show of male dominance will move votes. It wasn’t a surprise, and it wasn’t totally successful.

The problem is that Trump managed to drag Biden into the mud and prevent people from noticing that Biden actually had policy positions to put forward.
At least according to a small group of people the NewsHour got together to watch the debates and give their opinions.

Biden was able to multi-task. The MSM doesn’t want to report that he could multi-task. They want a lede.

631
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:20:11pm

re: #623 BeachDem

It it’s not enforced it’s not a requirement.

632
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:20:12pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:20:13pm

re: #624 jaunte

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I predict my MAGA cousin will proclaim she loved Trump’s performance.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:20:41pm

Biden did the best he could all things considered. I would have cursed or decked Trump in his ugly face.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:21:14pm

re: #633 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Sorry. Probably some of my cousins too.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:21:48pm

re: #635 jaunte

Sorry. Probably some of my cousins too.

Same with some of mine too sigh.

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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:22:11pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:22:29pm

Helen Reddy has passed at age 78.

639
BeachDem  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:22:34pm

Our Dems are on it!

secure.actblue.com?

640
Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:22:36pm

re: #605 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Santorum is stammering like crazy trying to rationalize.

Hey Rick, this picture never EVER gets old.

641
The Pie Overlord!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:23:47pm
642
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:23:58pm

re: #637 teleskiguy

Luke is undecided my ass.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:24:40pm

re: #641 The Pie Overlord!

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You know he’s bitten Melania before.

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jaunte  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:24:52pm

Here’s a baby armadillo, come to bring your blood pressure down.

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NetworkKed  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:26:09pm

Luntz always manages to find a white knuckledragging focus group, and presents it as “America”. Good to hear even his brand of scum couldn’t bring themselves to justify that performative transgression.

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🌹UOJB!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:27:01pm

I got a feeling there won’t be another debate and I would not be surprised if Pence says tomorrow that he will not debate Kamala.

647
Interesting Times  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:27:14pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:27:21pm
649
Sherlock Hound  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:27:26pm

re: #538 jaunte

Any description of this debate as a shitshow is incomplete if it doesn’t lay the full blame on Trump. He’s a 74 year old toddler.

Real toddlers act the way they do because that’s how they develop. That takes a little of the sting off when they blow up. Trump, however, is Trump. That being said, Biden is naturally calm, and perhaps remembering his boys when they were little.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:28:13pm

re: #642 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Luke is undecided my ass.

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Luke is a moron. He doesn’t realize that Trump behaves like a crackhead because he can’t justify himself with facts or logic. How many morons are there? We shall see.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:28:54pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:29:50pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:31:59pm

re: #648 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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Birmingham AL TV had a wonderful hour during the Roy Moore/Doug Jones battle. Frank Luntz put together a focus group of Republicans from AL population centers and surveyed them about the High Weirdness that was Judge Moore. He couldn’t believe the shit they came up with: “Yeah, but he’s OUR mall creeper”.

We won anyway.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:32:00pm

hi

I was following tonight’s “debate” here and at Wonkette.

What a crapfest.

I cannot see how this could have moved a single voter toward Trump. I can see it motivating non-participants in elections to vote to end the abuse.

Last night, I noted Gov. Gordon of Wyoming had issued an order to raise the flag today at sunset, despite no public announcement of Justice Bader-Ginsberg’s interment. Since that happened today, I assume Wyoming’s governor had some sort of advance notice. It was still crap to issue a proclamation to that effect.

655
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:32:27pm

Tonight’s Trumpenbefehl. Like any other whipped bully, he reverts to piteous begging, in this case trying to grift some money to replace what his coked out minions have stolen.

We just pulled your End-of-Quarter Deadline Donor File:

Supporter: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
End-of-Quarter Gift: MISSING

We wanted to reach out because we just got off a call with President Trump to review the most recent list of Patriots who contributed to our critical End-of-Quarter Goal, and he noticed your name was MISSING.

There’s not much time left to contribute, and President Trump is counting on his BEST supporters, like YOU, to step up.

This week is critical. Not only is this the FINAL QUARTERLY DEADLINE of the Election but the first Presidential Debate is TODAY.

656
Teddy's Person ✌  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:32:53pm

re: #638 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Helen Reddy has passed at age 78.

Helen Reddy - I Am Woman (1971)

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Dave In Austin  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:33:10pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:33:57pm
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danarchy  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:34:16pm

re: #644 jaunte

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Here’s a baby armadillo, come to bring your blood pressure down.

Are you sure it is coming to bring down my blood pressure and not to give me leprosy?

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EPR-radar  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:39:32pm

re: #588 jaunte

Trump’s election and debate ‘strategies’ are identical. In both cases, Trump turns it into a shit show, hoping to find a way to declare victory.

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:43:35pm

re: #640 Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!

I have used that photo for years, you have NO idea of the joy that picture brings out in me.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:50:25pm

re: #646 🌹UOJB!

I got a feeling there won’t be another debate and I would not be surprised if Pence says tomorrow that he will not debate Kamala.

No. He will be forced to debate bu trump and his team. they will instruct him to talk over harris. It will not work, but that will be there plan.

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Egregious Philbin  Sep 29, 2020 • 8:59:31pm

re: #656 Teddy’s Person ✌

“She was an office girl…her name was Betty. Her favorite group was Helen Reddy”


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