The Infinite Pattern That Never Repeats

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Instead of music this time, here’s some cool nerdcore, documentary-style.

Simple rules of geometry meant that 5-fold symmetry was impossible as were crystals without a periodic structure. This turns out to be wrong. Thanks to LastPass for sponsoring a portion of this video. Click here to start using LastPass: ve42.co

Huge thanks to Prof. Paul Steinhardt for the interview on this topic. Check out his book ‘The Second Kind of Impossible’

If you’d like to learn more about Penrose tilings, go check out “Penrose Tiles to Trapdoor Ciphers” by Martin Gardener, which helped my research for this video.

Filmed by Gene Nagata (Potato Jet on YouTube)
Animations by Iván Tello and Jonny Hyman
Editing, Coloring, Music & Audio mastering by Jonny Hyman

Prague scenes filmed in 2012.
Special thanks to Raquel Nuno for helping with the tilings!

Additional Music from Epidemic Sound

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216 comments
1
PhillyPretzel  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:15:13pm

GOTV

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(((Archangel1)))  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:18:03pm

FT, FTGOP and GOTV.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:21:10pm

On a lighter note it is the 50th Anniversary of PBS.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:23:43pm

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:24:50pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:28:09pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My dad used to take my mom for rides in the car to help calm her dementia-related anxieties. The rides eventually stopped working, which contributed to my dad’s decision to put my mom in a nursing home.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:28:52pm

I laughed at the golden ratio showing up.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:29:31pm

Left on the last thread

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:29:51pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Stonekettle
@Stonekettle
My wife and I are caregivers for somebody with dementia and Alzheimers.

Sometimes we have to take them for a ride to calm their agitation too.

Not if they have COVID-19. You’re not even allowed to be in the room with them.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:30:51pm

Trump: “I learned a lot about covid.” FU. You’ve had 10 fucking months to learn. It was your job. What an ass.

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jeffreyw  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:32:31pm

Who brought the pears?

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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:33:12pm

re: #11 jeffreyw

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Who brought the pears?

mmmm, that looks tasty.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:33:24pm

The Washington Post is reporting that Joe Biden’s third test since his exposure at the debate has come back negative. That’s the third one. Hopefully that is a trend that continues.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:33:55pm

re: #13 A Mom Anon

I hope so too.

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jeffreyw  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:34:24pm

re: #12 Teddy’s Person ✌

Thanks
Best wishes for Teddy

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:36:23pm

The post’s video by Veritasium is very mathemagical.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:37:12pm

re: #10 I Would Prefer Not To

Shit doesn’t exist until it effects them directly.

When it does effect them directly, they still don’t learn that other people suffer the same way; they just learn that they want to avoid more pain.

I mean, the whole superspreader event was inevitable because these people decided to just keep playing Russian Roulette…and now there’s been a “bang” and a bunch of them will think that the gun going off wasn’t inevitable, but a “mistake” or made to happen…because it is impossible that the game they chose to play could result in a negative outcome for them.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:37:31pm

re: #12 Teddy’s Person ✌

Big old doggo huggles for Teddy. Poor guy. Hope he has a speedy recovery. And that you can relax too {{{{{huggles}}}}}}.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:40:56pm

re: #12 Teddy’s Person ✌

Hopefully, poor Teddy recovers quickly and completely. Best wishes to you both!

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:42:35pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:42:48pm

re: #13 A Mom Anon

That feeling when you read…

The Washington Post is reporting that Joe Biden’s third test

And you hold your breath…

since his exposure at the debate has come back negative.

And, it’s ok to breathe again…

That’s the third one. Hopefully that is a trend that continues.

Every time I see that. Every time.

Same with Fauci.

Jeez. My heart is not going to keep going.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:43:04pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:43:19pm

re: #15 jeffreyw

re: #18 A Mom Anon

re: #19 Hecuba’s daughter

Thank you! I’ll be heading out to bring him home shortly. I’ve staved off my anxiety by making him some chicken and rice for his recovery. I needed to feel like I was doing something.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:45:35pm

re: #22 DodgerFan1988

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Frankly, not dying alone is near the top of the list why I wear a mask. Keeping my fellow human beings safe is #1.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:49:56pm

Remember Trump after the four soldiers were killed in Niger: They knew what they signed up for. That’s his attitude toward the SecService.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:50:44pm
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A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:50:56pm

re: #21 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Oh god, I’m sorry. I do the same thing. That Judy Gold tweet still gets me and I know what it says. It will be SO awesome to have days or even weeks without having to stress out over what the White House is doing.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:51:16pm

re: #25 Barefoot Grin

Remember Trump after the four soldiers were killed in Niger: They knew what they signed up for. That’s his attitude toward the SecService.

Says the man who never signed up.

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Jay C  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:52:47pm

re: #13 A Mom Anon

The Washington Post is reporting that Joe Biden’s third test since his exposure at the debate has come back negative. That’s the third one. Hopefully that is a trend that continues.

Yes: Joe (and everyone around him) needs to do daily testing - for everybody: at least everyone in the Biden campaign (from the candidate on down) seem to be taking the CV very seriously, and ignoring the mockery from the Oppo. With the level of protection they seem to follow, the odds on anyone contracting the virus are probably quite low (but not 0 - gotta be careful until a safe vaccine is out).

Oh, and fuck Trump (as if it needs to be repeated) - as Mrs. Jay and I were discussing over dinner: “Fuck Trump” - if he’s really that sick, it’s insanely irresponsible to go out: and if he’s not: why are the taxpayers paying for Covid Theater - just so King Orangeanus can look like some sort of “hero” to the goobers?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:55:30pm

She didn’t get the response she was expecting. Moron.

Not to mention, word this better you idiot.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:55:37pm

re: #20 lawhawk

Trumps say explicitly what his followers…and a lot of reactionary Americans…believe implicitly:

There is a hierarchy of kinds of people that is a priori true and moral.
They are rightfully the high-tier individuals in that hierarchy.
People that work for them, or whose jobs involve service, are their inferiors within that hierarchy.
It is right and good that inferiors are subject to the unconditional demands of their superiors.
It is right and good that inferiors are not treated as equals by their superiors.
It is right and good that superiors feel anger and deliver punishment to individuals that suggest the above axioms are false.

For someone with power to not use that power…to be a superior that does not demand inferiors suffer…is a disruption of the order of the world. While the hierarchy means that the superior kind can be excused many kinds of use of power that cause harm, the one unforgivable crime is to treat inferiors as having unconditional value, as ends rather than means.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:56:42pm

re: #30 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She didn’t get the response she was expecting. Moron.

Not to mention, word this better you idiot.

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JFC, “what’s going on” is that people are taking covid seriously. You have to work pretty hard to be that obtuse.

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stpaulbear  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:57:34pm

re: #25 Barefoot Grin

Remember Trump after the four soldiers were killed in Niger: They knew what they signed up for. That’s his attitude toward the SecService.

And he said that on the phone to one of the widows.

And he forgot the soldier’s name while talking to the widow.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 4, 2020 • 4:57:45pm

re: #28 Teddy’s Person ✌

Says the man who never signed up.

And I forgot that it was specifically aimed at the AA soldier who died there.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:05:46pm

re: #30 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I haven’t eaten out since March. Only takeout/delivery. Why? Because covid19 could kill me and mine. Or the staff. Or anyone else dining there.

Fuck to the no.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:05:48pm

re: #31 The Ghost of a Flea

I break it down like this because I feel it explains the seeming “hypocrisy” of reactionaries as representative of a consistent, unified pattern of thinking that they can’t say along because people would rightly put them in the Bastille.

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A Three Hour Tour  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:09:39pm

re: #35 lawhawk

I haven’t eaten out since March. Only takeout/delivery. Why? Because covid19 could kill me and mine. Or the staff. Or anyone else dining there.

Fuck to the no.

I haven’t even done fast-food drive-thru since May, and contactless pizza delivery at most twice since June.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:09:52pm

re: #35 lawhawk

There was only one time I went into DiBruno Bros and that was when I was in Center City Philadelphia to get my iPhone fixed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:10:18pm

re: #35 lawhawk

I haven’t eaten out since March. Only takeout/delivery. Why? Because covid19 could kill me and mine. Or the staff. Or anyone else dining there.

Fuck to the no.

Mrs. Fish and I went to one restaurant when they first reopened. At first it was kinda cool, place was almost completely empty, couples were placed at widely separated tables. Then the dinner crowd showed up, and I got reeeeally nervous at the amount of people pouring in, some without masks. We hurriedly NOPED the fuck out of there, and haven’t sat down at another restaurant since.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:10:59pm

The only situation in which the Secret Service agents might not have been subjected to additional risk: If they already had COVID-19, then maybe they will be ok, and not face re-infection.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:11:14pm

re: #30 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She didn’t get the response she was expecting. Moron.

Not to mention, word this better you idiot.

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Restaurants have been CLOSED in the Los Angeles area since mid-March. They opened only for a couple days back in June before they had to close again and I did not go during that small window.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:13:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:14:49pm
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Jack Burton  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:15:44pm

re: #30 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She didn’t get the response she was expecting. Moron.

Not to mention, word this better you idiot.

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Honestly I can’t even remember the last time I ate inside at a restaurant… or even on a patio of a restaurant. It was way before COVID was a thing. Probably over a year ago.

I’m “honestly” confused by how many people are freaking out about not being able to certain things to the point of risking their life. As long as I have income of some kind (or a way to not become homeless), I could literally sit in my house eating home cooked meals, watching streaming movies and playing video games until sometime in 2022 when COVID is official announced “defeated” (or something… I know it might never go away fully). I “miss” going out and doing some things, but not to the point of risking my life or the lives of people around me. Fuck that..

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:16:27pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s sitting in a jail cell in Minneapolis, waiting to be counted.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:16:39pm

re: #26 lawhawk

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:21:21pm
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Jay C  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:21:43pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Also, the assumption that “healthy” has anything to do with susceptibility to COVID infection is hilarious as well. Or would be if it weren’t so tragically wrong….

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:22:47pm

re: #40 Hecuba’s daughter

The only situation in which the Secret Service agents might not have been subjected to additional risk: If they already had COVID-19, then maybe they will be ok, and not face re-infection.

And the choice? Secret service stays or quits … and then Erik Princes mercenaries come in, and they’d shoot AMERICANS without a second thought.

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BeachDem  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:23:26pm

I got carryout Italian on my birthday in April and that was it. I’ll sometimes get “ready to cook” things like meatballs at Publix, but haven’t been to a restaurant or even a drive-through since March 13.

(The Veep thingie is kind of boring, but the wine and watching it has calmed me down. And they’ve now raised $500,000)

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:24:13pm

Newt’s spewing agitprop as fast as he can.

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A Cranky One  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:24:25pm

I’d love to go to a restaurant for a meal. But will I expose myself for that transient pleasure? No way.

I find my ability to tolerate assholes has dramatically decreased. Not that I was very tolerant to begin with (when dealing with assholes), but discovering how many of my fellow citizens are assholes has reduced my tolerance.

Made the necessary trip to a grocery store recently. Had a woman walk by with no mask and singing loudly. Infuriated me that she was so happy about putting others at risk, or just too stupid to understand. (The store did have a mandatory mask policy). Had a similar experience at the hardware store to get a necessary part. Maskless asshole strutting around, just waiting for someone to challenge him.

So would I put myself in a situation where I know there will be assholes that will flaunt health regulations, potentially put me at risk and piss me off at the same time? No way.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:25:04pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:26:53pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah so hilarious that the people protecting the President had to be with a moron who doesn’t take a pandemic seriously.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:27:02pm

re: #53 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Raheem’s pretty stupid. How does he rate a checkmark?

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A Cranky One  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:27:42pm

re: #55 jaunte

Raheem’s pretty stupid. How does he rate a checkmark?

Verified idiot?

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:28:26pm

re: #52 A Cranky One

I’d love to go to a restaurant. I’ve got a bunch of them I’d want to go to.

Steakhouses.
Diners.
Delis.
Sushi places.
Italian.

All of them. I missed my anniversary dinner out because of covid19. I missed my birthday. I missed July 4th bbq, and Father’s Day and Mother’s Day were all social distancing without the usual crew of people. We haven’t had anyone over since before March.

Because I didn’t want to get anyone infected or vice versa.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:28:35pm

re: #56 A Cranky One

“Viral asininity.”

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:29:30pm
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Jack Burton  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:30:26pm

re: #53 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Watching that clown think “only sick and old people get it” *still* after literally EVERYTHING that’s happened since the initial phase in the spring is… well funny isn’t the word I’d use.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:31:19pm

I’ve gone to several Restaurants. Eaten outdoors when possible. Decided to go somewhere else if I wasn’t comfortable with the seating situation. I’ve also kept a pocket size bottle of sanitizer with me at all times.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:32:34pm

re: #55 jaunte

Raheem’s pretty stupid. How does he rate a checkmark?

Or 350k followers.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:32:41pm

re: #53 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:32:49pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:33:03pm

re: #60 Jack Burton

Watching that clown think “only sick and old people get it” *still* after literally EVERYTHING that’s happened since the initial phase in the spring is… well funny isn’t the word I’d use.

Deplorable?

/

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:38:11pm

re: #26 lawhawk

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Jack Burton  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:38:46pm

re: #4 Teddy’s Person ✌

JFC

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“The phones look too old” … really?

To quote Peter Griffin: “OMG WHO THE HELL CARES??!?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:39:35pm

re: #55 jaunte

Raheem’s pretty stupid. How does he rate a checkmark?

SMOTI has a checkmark. So clearly intelligence has nothing to do with it.

The infamous question: why does George Conway still lack one?

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piratedan  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:41:21pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I can assure you that the hospital Infection Control folks are likely having kittens right now if you’re talking about taking a COVID positive patient out of their treatment suite and carting his ass not only to a vehicle but back again…

this is the kind of shit if anyone else gets infected, its lawsuit city due to reckless endangerment

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makeitstop  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:44:43pm

My wife and I have been to two restaurants in the past three weeks. Both in NYC, both outdoors. And both had limited seating with plexiglass screens between each table. One in Brooklyn was set up on the sidewalk, and a really good Argentinian spot that we went to yesterday in Alphabet City actually had a wooden platform built in the parking lane in front of the restaurant. It reminded me of when we went to Montreal a few years ago and most of the restaurants had similar setups in the street. It also had the plexi barriers between tables.

It was great to actually have a restaurant meal, but there’s no way we’re going into an indoor spot to eat until we’ve got a handle on this virus.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:44:48pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:46:04pm

re: #30 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

She didn’t get the response she was expecting. Moron.

Not to mention, word this better you idiot.

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I can honestly say I haven’t eaten in a restaurant since March, and I won’t until its safe to do so.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:47:07pm

re: #35 lawhawk

I haven’t eaten out since March. Only takeout/delivery. Why? Because covid19 could kill me and mine. Or the staff. Or anyone else dining there.

Fuck to the no.

There are several places around where I live with good outdoor seating — “good” means tables far enough apart for social distancing — and I’ve eaten at them a few times. (I bring my own utensils.)

But we have about five new cases a day in my town, and positive tests are around 2%.

(I also got a pedicure earlier this week, now that they’ve let the salons reopen. I don’t feel secure enough for a manicure, but my feet are sufficiently distant from my nose and mouth. There were two people in the salon, both masked employees. Also, I’ve been going there for years, so I’m willing to take a slight — very slight, I think — risk in the interest of their financial survival.)

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:48:40pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Or it would be if it weren’t so sickening.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:48:55pm
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mmmirele  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:50:17pm

I’d been getting this Penrose tilings video served up to me every time I hit YouTube since it came out and I kept pushing it away because I knew that if I watched it, I’d want to start experimenting. And yes, there are Penrose tiling generators. This one I found to be the easiest for my non-mathematical mind to work with.

misc.0o0o.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:52:21pm

re: #32 Teddy’s Person ✌

JFC, “what’s going on” is that people are taking covid seriously. You have to work pretty hard to be that obtuse.

My wife and I continued to go to restaurants as normal in March and April. (The fist case did not arrive here until April 1, and numbers were less than ten total through the end of the month).

Since then, we have only eaten out a couple times here at restaurants with outdoor dining areas, and in a couple on our trip to Valentine (during off hours when we were the only people there). For our overnight trip to Denver we took ready-cook food from home.

We don’t have the benefit of take-out restaurants or curbside grocery pickup or other such city amenities.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:53:30pm

re: #48 Jay C

Also, the assumption that “healthy” has anything to do with susceptibility to COVID infection is hilarious as well. Or would be if it weren’t so tragically wrong….

I reported his tweets as encouraging self harm.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:54:10pm

Watching Ratched with Mrs. Fish right now. I just watched Sophie Okonedo deliver the performance of a lifetime as a person with multiple personality disorder. Holy crap.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:57:37pm

re: #72 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I can honestly say I haven’t eaten in a restaurant since March, and I won’t until its safe to do so.

Exactly. We haven’t eaten out since December (we were following COVID starting in January which is when I started stocking up on things like sanitizer, anti bacterial dish/hand soap, etc., because we saw what was happening in China and Italy). I won’t eat out again until there’s a vaccine.

We do skip the dishes fairly regularly to support local businesses.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:57:56pm

I’m about to watch the Good Lord Bird on Showtime about John Brown, Frederick Douglass. Should be an interesting watch. I have visited Harpers Ferry quite often. It’s a fascinating place.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:58:45pm

Last time I was in a restaurant was probably over a year ago. The husband goes out and meets a group of old work buddies about once a month, they eat at a local bbq place and hang out outside. We get take out or delivery about once a month, usually when I am having a bad day and am just over it.

You could not pay me to do more than any of that and I feel like that is pushing it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:58:59pm

re: #79 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Watching Ratched with Mrs. Fish right now. I just watched Sophie Okonedo deliver the performance of a lifetime as a person with multiple personality disorder. Holy crap.

Criminally underrated actress IMO

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:59:29pm

QAnon has spread to Aussies and Kiwis.

time.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:59:33pm

re: #81 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I’m about to watch the Good Lord Bird on Showtime about John Brown, Frederick Douglass. Should be an interesting watch. I have visited Harpers Ferry quite often. It’s a fascinating place.

I’ve only been there once, on my one vacation out east. I have to say, I don’t remember as much of it as I would like.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 4, 2020 • 5:59:38pm
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piratedan  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:01:38pm

re: #69 piratedan

and on top of that, it’s now being reported that POTUS is supposedly doing the rounds visiting other patients (as an act of “support”) who are first responders or veterans….

I’m sure he’s wearing a mask and avoiding any personal space violations because that’s who he is….

unsure if these are already COVID positive patients or just people who happen to be at hand….

unknown about the veracity of the tweet, but I wouldn’t be shocked to find out its true…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:01:48pm

re: #80 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Exactly. We haven’t eaten out since December (we were following COVID starting in January which is when I started stocking up on things like sanitizer, anti bacterial dish/hand soap, etc., because we saw what was happening in China and Italy). I won’t eat out again until there’s a vaccine.

We do skip the dishes fairly regularly to support local businesses.

We get carry out a lot. I occasionally go in a restaurant to pick up the food, but I never take off my mask in them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:02:57pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

Criminally underrated actress IMO

After watching that, I have to agree. I mean, many actors struggle to convincingly deliver a single character performance in a series or movie. This woman delivered, on cue, a haughty British orchestra snob; an American lady of the South; a young child; and Jesse Fucking Owens.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:04:34pm

re: #82 A Mom Anon

Last time I was in a restaurant was probably over a year ago. The husband goes out and meets a group of old work buddies about once a month, they eat at a local bbq place and hang out outside. We get take out or delivery about once a month, usually when I am having a bad day and am just over it.

You could not pay me to do more than any of that and I feel like that is pushing it.

And if I lived where you do, I’d probably feel the same way. But we have blue-state manners here, thank heavens.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:05:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:07:06pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:09:27pm

re: #88 NO SMOCKING GUN!

We get carry out a lot. I occasionally go in a restaurant to pick up the food, but I never take off my mask in them.

I think I had to go inside one restaurant to pick up my takeout order. Otherwise, it’s all been places that do curbside or drive-through. We do it pretty frequently - at least once a week, as Mrs. Fish and I have a standing “drive-through date day” where we get takeout from a nearby restaurant or bar, as our way of trying to support the local businesses.

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A Cranky One  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:10:14pm

While I’m not in any way willing to risk my health by going into a restaurant, we have used takeout from a few of the local restaurants to support their business and well, because the food is excellent.

There are a ton of Mexican restaurants in our area, but our favorite is a little family owned place just a few blocks away. We’re more than happy to do takeout from them regularly, since the kitchen area is visible and always very clean and the food is excellent. (We’ve noticed that it’s a favorite of the area cops as well. With literally dozens of Mexican food places to choose from, that suggests they know where to find the best food).

And while we’re happy to support their business, no way I would go in and dine. Or anywhere else for that matter. I do feel sympathy for the servers and bartenders that are out of work, but the blame for that is on the mis-administration.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:11:03pm

re: #89 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

After watching that, I have to agree. I mean, many actors struggle to convincingly deliver a single character performance in a series or movie. This woman delivered, on cue, a haughty British orchestra snob; an American lady of the South; a young child; and Jesse Fucking Owens.

I first caught notice of her as Don Cheadles wife in Hotel Rwanda. She brought such emotion to the role.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:11:13pm
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:13:36pm

Trump is practically non compos mentis. That was even before the steroids.

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stpaulbear  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:19:10pm

re: #88 NO SMOCKING GUN!

We get carry out a lot. I occasionally go in a restaurant to pick up the food, but I never take off my mask in them.

My favorite pizza/hoagie place has a great setup for ordering and paying online for curbside pickup, and the person who brings your food out always has a mask and gloves. The local Chinese place doesn’t have curbside but they’re very concerned about safety, although it can be a little tricky distancing from other customers when picking up. I usually wait outside until it’s clear.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:21:10pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:22:43pm

re: #98 stpaulbear

We discovered a local Italian place that will deliver to our house. We don’t take advantage very often because it’s kinda spendy, but it was a delightful find.

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stpaulbear  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:23:31pm

re: #93 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Do you have a Davanni’s our your way? The one in St. Paul is my go-to curbside place now and I love their food.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:24:58pm

re: #101 stpaulbear

Do you have a Davanni’s our your way? The one in St. Paul is my go-to curbside place now and I love their food.

We do have one. I had their food once; my former employers bought us an order after Mrs. Fish had her car accident. I thought it was pretty good, I don’t remember anything standout about it though.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:25:29pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:26:11pm
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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:28:42pm

“Staff should not go to the White House Medical Unit for any Covid-19 testing inquiries.”

You little people can fuck off and die at home.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:30:02pm

re: #98 stpaulbear

My favorite pizza/hoagie place has a great setup for ordering and paying online for curbside pickup, and the person who brings your food out always has a mask and gloves. The local Chinese place doesn’t have curbside but they’re very concerned about safety, although it can be a little tricky distancing from other customers when picking up. I usually wait outside until it’s clear.

Most of the restaurants around here have tables across the entry doors — you go there to give them your order, or get the order you’re already phoned in. The few that don’t do it that way don’t worry me, since there’s nobody there but the person at the counter who takes the order. The cooks are back in the kitchen. Once in a while there might be another customer.

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stpaulbear  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:30:19pm

re: #102 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We do have one. I had their food once; my former employers bought us an order after Mrs. Fish had her car accident. I thought it was pretty good, I don’t remember anything standout about it though.

It’s so rare that I do fine dining. To me it’s satisfying comfort food.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:33:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:34:02pm

re: #105 jaunte

“Staff should not go to the White House Medical Unit for any Covid-19 testing inquiries.”

You little people can fuck off and die at home.

They know. They don’t care. They care about grasping power and committing genocide. They will kill their own supporters as long as they can kill more who aren’t.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:36:14pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:38:40pm

re: #101 stpaulbear

Do you have a Davanni’s our your way? The one in St. Paul is my go-to curbside place now and I love their food.

I have dined outside several times with one other person, and have been willing to go inside to order and to pick up phone orders. But I am not willing to eat inside. Once it’s late October, it will likely be too cold to continue with outdoor dining here. Indoor dining does not seem safe.

It won’t be until Biden (G-d willing!) takes over in January that there will be a chance to get additional aid to businesses and local governments. Let’s hope we can survive until then.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:41:22pm

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stpaulbear  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:43:59pm

re: #111 Hecuba’s daughter

I have dined outside several times with one other person, and have been willing to go inside to order and to pick up phone orders. But I am not willing to eat inside. Once it’s late October, it will likely be too cold to continue with outdoor dining here. Indoor dining does not seem safe.

It won’t be until Biden (G-d willing!) takes over in January that there will be a chance to get additional aid to businesses and local governments. Let’s hope we can survive until then.

When I said curbside I meant waiting outside for someone to deliver the food to my car, not sitting at a table on the sidewalk. I’ve only dined outside twice on a restaurant patio and I was nervously watching every move anyone made the whole time. It wasn’t relaxing so I stopped doing it.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:44:18pm
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CBGB  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:44:45pm

Because I know there are a lot of musicheads around here, I want to drop this. So dark, so proggy, so heavy, but somehow so melodic. Very cool album.

The Price

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:44:49pm
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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:47:13pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:48:17pm

The President of the United States. working relentlessly from his hospital room for the benefit of the American People haha jk he’s watching Fox News & he’s pissed that he can’t Tweet.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:48:47pm

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

There are so many idiots.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:52:21pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:52:45pm

I haven’t been to a restaurant since we were in Florida last January. The last time I had my nails done was early February.

We sometimes get takeout from a kosher Chinese place where we order online or over the phone, and then text our order # when we get to the parking lot and they bring it out to the car.

Ze says that the first thing he wants to do when the quarantine is lifted, is go to Toronto for an eatfest, even though our son no longer lives there. I said yeah maybe for our Golden Anniversary in August 2021.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:53:45pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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The Times is just continuing their match to irrelevancy. Wtf.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:54:36pm

re: #73 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

There are several places around where I live with good outdoor seating — “good” means tables far enough apart for social distancing — and I’ve eaten at them a few times. (I bring my own utensils.)

But we have about five new cases a day in my town, and positive tests are around 2%.

(I also got a pedicure earlier this week, now that they’ve let the salons reopen. I don’t feel secure enough for a manicure, but my feet are sufficiently distant from my nose and mouth. There were two people in the salon, both masked employees. Also, I’ve been going there for years, so I’m willing to take a slight — very slight, I think — risk in the interest of their financial survival.)

Northern NJ has a ton of restaurants with outdoor seating. Some appear to do better job of social distancing/masking than others.

I just don’t trust people; they’re eating. They can get/give covid19 while eating, even outdoors. It just isn’t enjoyable worrying about getting covid for the pleasure of just eating out.

And I say that even as I’m planning a quick getaway where I will stay overnight at a hotel and have to do delivery or eat outdoors away from other people.

I have my risk threshold, and I see lots of people with a different one.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:57:06pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:58:08pm

I do not understand how people can eat in restaurants if there is a mask order? Do they take off the mask, take a bite, then put the mask back in place? What’s even the point of that.

Or do they just not bother to wear masks?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:58:33pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:58:56pm

re: #123 lawhawk

I took a weekend away in Mankato and had to do the same thing. Hotel travel is so bizarre in pandemic land.

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Jack Burton  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:59:38pm

As it is right now, even when I’m at the grocery store. I wont stand anywhere for longer than I have to. If I have questions about the shopping list, I’ll text my GF and then take laps around the store in the wider more open areas until she replies so that I avoid standing in one place for too long. If the lines at the register are too long I’ll do the same thing until I hear a “threes a crowd” call over the PA or I notice it let up. I only go to the stores where the gap between the store aisles and the registers is large enough to have 3-4 people socially distanced in line after whoever is checking out.

I use a cloth mask with 4 layers of blue shop towels in it. This doesn’t make it “N95” but at two layers it makes it at least 6-7 times better at stopping particulates than just cloth alone and I’m doubling that. It’s harder to breathe or talk in it that way but it only seems to lower my SpO2 by 1% or less. I’m less worried about getting it from touching things but I still use hand sanitizer, bring sanitizer wipes to wipe down the cart even if they claim them to be “clean” and wash thoroughly as soon as I get home.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 6:59:41pm

re: #125 The Pie Overlord!

I do not understand how people can eat in restaurants if there is a mask order? Do they take off the mask, take a bite, then put the mask back in place? What’s even the point of that.

Or do they not even wear masks?

Most mask orders state that you wear the mask in the restaurant, unless you are eating at the table. So you would take the mask off, eat your meal, and put it back on.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:02:05pm

re: #88 NO SMOCKING GUN!

We get carry out a lot. I occasionally go in a restaurant to pick up the food, but I never take off my mask in them.

I do the same, and tip as if I dined in.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:04:18pm

re: #116 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

From NPR:

Political Aides Investigate VOA White House Reporter For Anti-Trump Bias

Background on what’s been going on at Voice of America since Trump took over.

Whatever a conservative can’t understand or control, they destroy. (See also Trump ordering NIST’s shortwave and longwave stations WWV, WWVB, and WWVL being shut down because he saw no use for them).

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:04:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:05:38pm

re: #125 The Pie Overlord!

I do not understand how people can eat in restaurants if there is a mask order? Do they take off the mask, take a bite, then put the mask back in place? What’s even the point of that.

Or do they just not bother to wear masks?

Wear a mask while ordering and waiting for food. Remove it only while eating, then replace it when finished.

Make sure you are well-distanced from other diners or outside.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:05:41pm

Pathology.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:05:42pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

From NPR:

Political Aides Investigate VOA White House Reporter For Anti-Trump Bias

Background on what’s been going on at Voice of America since Trump took over.

Whatever a conservative can’t understand or control, they destroy. (See also Trump ordering NIST’s shortwave and longwave stations WWV, WWVB, and WWVL being shut down because he saw no use for them).

Definition of anti-Trump bias: Reporting the truth and being loyal to the Constitution.

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Jack Burton  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:06:44pm

Also last time I checked, I believe MedCram showed the most likely place to get COVID was restaurants, but they did not differentiate between indoor and outdoor. Their analysis showed it to be the only places statistically significant for infections.

So really why is anyone going to restaurants? Get delivery, take out, or go to the fucking store.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:07:19pm
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Belafon  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:08:38pm

re: #125 The Pie Overlord!

I do not understand how people can eat in restaurants if there is a mask order? Do they take off the mask, take a bite, then put the mask back in place? What’s even the point of that.

Or do they just not bother to wear masks?

You wear a mask into the restaurant up until you sit at your table, then you can take it off. You have to put it back on when you get up from the table.

It’s all stupid and why i won’t dine in.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:09:03pm

re: #128 Jack Burton

We still can’t get hand sanitiser or wipes here since the beginning of this, nor any disinfectants (other than sometimes bleach but not often, though I can obtain industrial bleach used in water systems).

The efficiencies of the capitalist marketplace I guess.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:09:54pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We still can’t get hand sanitiser or wipes here since the beginning of this, nor any disinfectants (other than sometimes bleach but not often, though I can obtain industrial bleach used in water systems).

The efficiencies of the capitalist marketplace I guess.

We were able to get an adequate supply of hand sanitizer, and as a bonus, it looks like it’s not the stuff that will kill you.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:10:35pm
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Belafon  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:11:08pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We still can’t get hand sanitiser or wipes here since the beginning of this, nor any disinfectants (other than sometimes bleach but not often, though I can obtain industrial bleach used in water systems).

The efficiencies of the capitalist marketplace I guess.

Wipes are still hard to find, but stores now have plenty of hand sanitizer. Like out in the aisles display enough

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:11:30pm

re: #136 Jack Burton

Also last time I checked, I believe MedCram showed the most likely place to get COVID was restaurants, but they did not differentiate between indoor and outdoor. Their analysis showed it to be the only places statistically significant for infections.

So really why is anyone going to restaurants? Get delivery, take out, or go to the fucking store.

About half the people in my town are elderly and cannot drive; poor elderly here go to the diner where the state program distributing lunch happens.

We don’t have delivery or take-out.

Not every place is a city.

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Jack Burton  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:11:57pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We still can’t get hand sanitiser or wipes here since the beginning of this, nor any disinfectants (other than sometimes bleach but not often, though I can obtain industrial bleach used in water systems).

The efficiencies of the capitalist marketplace I guess.

The ones that I can get at the local Albertsons are are off-brand wipes that are decent thickness. Not sure where they are sourced from.

The liquid pump bottle is one I’m assuming is being produced by a local distillery. It smells like Everclear.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:12:23pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

About half the people in my town are elderly and cannot drive; poor elderly here go to the diner where the state program distributing lunch happens.

We don’t have delivery or take-out.

Not every place is a city.

That place won’t put them in take-out containers?

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:16:01pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

About half the people in my town are elderly and cannot drive; poor elderly here go to the diner where the state program distributing lunch happens.

We don’t have delivery or take-out.

Not every place is a city.

You also probably don’t have the problem I had Friday that the people waiting outside to eat at a restaurant were getting irritated thinking I was cutting in line when I was there to pick up my order to carry home.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:16:16pm

re: #145 Belafon

That place won’t put them in take-out containers?

At the beginning they did, but they now can’t get the take-out containers. They were all snapped up off the market as the epidemic accellerated.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:16:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:17:10pm

re: #144 Jack Burton

The ones that I can get at the local Albertsons are are off-brand wipes that are decent thickness. Not sure where they are sourced from.

The liquid pump bottle is one I’m assuming is being produced by a local distillery. It smells like Everclear.

Maybe that’s what I should do; go to the liquor store and buy a fifth of Everclear.

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NetworkKed  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:20:10pm

re: #138 Belafon

You wear a mask into the restaurant up until you sit at your table, then you can take it off. You have to put it back on when you get up from the table.

It’s all stupid and why i won’t dine in.

^^^ THIS ^^^

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A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:20:59pm

re: #141 jaunte

This just pisses me off. They are disturbing the peace and the cops should be called. Let the idiots stand there with their dumbass signs and flags but take their damned music and tell them to STFU. Most places have noise ordinances, after a certain time, quiet your shit or go to jail/get fined, whatever.

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:22:07pm

re: #133 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wear a mask while ordering and waiting for food. Remove it only while eating, then replace it when finished.

Make sure you are well-distanced from other diners or outside.

But most aren’t doing that. They mask off once they sit down and talk as if nothing is amiss.

It’s nuts.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:23:48pm

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You can mix alcohol with aloe vera gel to make a sanitizer . There are recipes for it online. Usually the gel is used for burns and sunburn, it was scarce over the summer but you might even be able to order some online.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:26:06pm

omaha.com

Omaha Public Schools are returning to in-person schooling across the city. Classes are starting under the so-called 3/2 model (classes are divided in half and attend three days a week, alternating).

Remote learning is still available but will be discontinued at the end of the semester.

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gwangung  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:26:17pm

re: #142 Belafon

Wipes are still hard to find, but stores now have plenty of hand sanitizer. Like out in the aisles display enough

Lots of hand sanitizers (Seattle area) and occasional deliveries of Chlorox wipes. And PLENTY of alcohol-based generic wipes.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:26:54pm

re: #151 A Mom Anon

This just pisses me off. They are disturbing the peace and the cops should be called. Let the idiots stand there with their dumbass signs and flags but take their damned music and tell them to STFU. Most places have noise ordinances, after a certain time, quiet your shit or go to jail/get fined, whatever.

There is nothing about this that doesn’t piss me off.

***

I went to the Prospect Park in Brooklyn today with the dogs. Beautiful day. Lots of people doing all kinds of stuff. Lots of social distance. 95% of the people were wearing a mask.

People are always shitting on NYC. But in some buttfuck town in the heartland to wear a mask is a sign of weakness. I can even anymore.

I swear, as long as I live I will not forgot the idiocy and the hate from the right wing. Fuck em all.

/the rant is only beginning

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lawhawk  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:28:01pm

Trump’s preening before the camera because he’s desperate to show he’s in charge.

That’s why he did the drive by stunt. That’s why he’s mugging for the camera when he’s supposedly on a phone call. There’s no papers and no notes (he never is seen taking notes ever). He signs blank pieces of paper to show he’s working.

And his idiot supporters caused a massive traffic jam in NYC to show their support for Trump outside Trump Tower.

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calochortus  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:30:45pm

re: #157 lawhawk

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Trump’s preening before the camera because he’s desperate to show he’s in charge.

That’s why he did the drive by stunt. That’s why he’s mugging for the camera when he’s supposedly on a phone call. There’s no papers and no notes (he never is seen taking notes ever). He signs blank pieces of paper to show he’s working.

And his idiot supporters caused a massive traffic jam in NYC to show their support for Trump outside Trump Tower.

He doesn’t look well. Not a surprise, because he isn’t, but why he wants to share that with the rest of us, I don’t know.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:31:27pm

Our rule for “Dining out”……

We do but not often. Most is carry out which is prolly twice a week.. If we do dine out all protocols must be in place with a track record.

The biggest thing is outside dining with lots of ventilation (fans).

We spent 7 days at SPI (the beach). Used common sense and a lot of hand sanitizer. No issues so far.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:31:35pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:32:27pm

re: #157 lawhawk

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Trump’s preening before the camera because he’s desperate to show he’s in charge.

That’s why he did the drive by stunt. That’s why he’s mugging for the camera when he’s supposedly on a phone call. There’s no papers and no notes (he never is seen taking notes ever). He signs blank pieces of paper to show he’s working.

And his idiot supporters caused a massive traffic jam in NYC to show their support for Trump outside Trump Tower.

Is one merely out of focus? Then again he always has that I just ate shit look on his face.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:33:01pm

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

Shutting down WWV, WWVH and WWVB would effectively end the life and sales of devices that automatically set their time from their transmission, and deprive scientists of information that is not dependent on having some kind of internet connection.

Typical knee-jerk reaction from Hair Furor…

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:33:37pm

2012: Seattle Japanese Garden

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:34:24pm

re: #157 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Trump’s preening before the camera because he’s desperate to show he’s in charge.

That’s why he did the drive by stunt. That’s why he’s mugging for the camera when he’s supposedly on a phone call. There’s no papers and no notes (he never is seen taking notes ever). He signs blank pieces of paper to show he’s working.

And his idiot supporters caused a massive traffic jam in NYC to show their support for Trump outside Trump Tower.

That is the same photo. The one on the right has been cropped.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:34:42pm

re: #158 calochortus

He doesn’t look well. Not a surprise, because he isn’t, but why he wants to share that with the rest of us, I don’t know.

What they don’t tell you is there’s a version of that room built so that the president continues to lie down. The floor looks like the back wall, and they have table prop that is perpendicular.

//

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:35:09pm

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m sure they figured out how to erase that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:35:09pm

re: #164 The Pie Overlord!

That is the same photo. The one on the right has been cropped.

Shit, you’re right.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:35:40pm

Went out for a 2 hour walk today with the KN95 mask on because the AQI was still around 150. Deliberately looked for a single Trump lawn sign or bumper sticker in my part of Los Angeles.

Result—None BUT there were PLENTY of Biden landslides and lots of Joe Bumper Stickers!

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:36:14pm
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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:37:42pm

Everything is perfectly fine.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:37:55pm

re: #158 calochortus

LOL he’s getting out tomorrow LOL

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calochortus  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:39:10pm

I’m impressed with the variations in cabinetry/paneling they have in that suite. Every room must have a different theme or something, because Trump is always in front of a different background.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:39:24pm

re: #160 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The WH photographer fucking sucks.

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calochortus  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:40:10pm

re: #173 Ace Rothstein

The WH photographer fucking sucks.

Maybe Trump doesn’t treat him nicely?

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:40:40pm

re: #173 Ace Rothstein

Nice that they managed to get that whole chandelier into the frame.

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gwangung  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:40:59pm

re: #174 calochortus

Maybe Trump doesn’t treat him nicely?

Trying to get in and out quickly.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:40:59pm

re: #174 calochortus

Maybe Trump doesn’t treat him nicely?

It’s a her. She’s terrible.

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calochortus  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:42:07pm

re: #177 Ace Rothstein

It’s a her. She’s terrible.

But is it intentional? She could be very, very good and just trying to capture the inner Trump.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:42:18pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:44:32pm

re: #178 calochortus

I understand that Pete Souza is the gold standard, but I’m not being unfair when I say that her work had been terrible the last almost four years.

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calochortus  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:46:14pm

re: #180 Ace Rothstein

I understand that Pete Souza is the gold standard, but I’m not being unfair when I say that her work had been terrible the last almost four years.

I believe you.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:47:51pm

re: #180 Ace Rothstein

I understand that Pete Souza is the gold standard, but I’m not being unfair when I say that her work had been terrible the last almost four years.

If you consider the fact that trump is soulless and any photo will reflect that you are being unfair.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:48:03pm

re: #181 calochortus

The gold standard in DC photojournalism is Doug Mills at the NYT, easily. His pictures are just insanely good.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:50:20pm
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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:57:30pm

re: #163 So Cal Greek Hippie

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Nice!

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calochortus  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:58:04pm

Wildfire update: The Glass Fire is 26% contained, up from 17% last night.
Over 4 million acres have burned in California this year. That’s well over twice the previous record that was set all of 2 years ago.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:58:27pm

re: #162 Eric The Fruit Bat

Shutting down WWV, WWVH and WWVB would effectively end the life and sales of devices that automatically set their time from their transmission, and deprive scientists of information that is not dependent on having some kind of internet connection.

Typical knee-jerk reaction from Hair Furor…

It would also foul up calibration of any sort of equipment requiring calibration standards, as calibration standards are calibrated to WWV et alia.

WWV and such are transmitted over the telephone (you can call them up to listen for two minutes), but the signal delays and such introduced by telephone lines or cell service make those signals useless for calibrating anything.

Why WWV and WWVH Still Matter (goes to Radio World, July 1, 2020)

By the way, WWV’s 20 MHz signal was used to conduct an experiment to prove radio waves scatter off satellites, and to estimate how they break up as they enter the atmosphere, when Sputnik 1 reëntered the atmosphere. Reception of the meteor scatter off the satellite as it plunged showed how it broke up.

Last year was one of both celebration and uncertainty for WWV, the station adjacent to Fort Collins, Colo., that transmits automated time broadcasts on the shortwave bands.

On the plus side, it marked the 100th year of WWV’s call letters, making the site, operated by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, one of the world’s oldest continually operating radio stations.

On the negative side, WWV and its sister time station WWVH in Hawaii nearly missed this centennial. That’s because NIST’s original 2019 budget called for shutting down the pair, along with WWVB, the longwave code station co-located next to WWV, as a cost-saving move.

Fortunately, these cuts never happened, and WWV, WWVH and WWVB seem likely to keep broadcasting the most accurate time from NIST’s atomic clocks, at least for the immediate future. (No further cuts have been threatened.)

(more)

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 4, 2020 • 7:59:02pm

Bunch of dildos, yup.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:00:47pm

I dare any TV outlet to run this soundtrack when Trump goes on one of his joyrides around the hospital:

John Williams: The Imperial March from The Empire Strikes Back

..

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bratwurst  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:01:46pm

Reminder: these people are SOCIOPATHS.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:02:20pm

Don’t forget to set the early alarm and prep the coffee maker

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:03:22pm

re: #190 bratwurst

Reminder: these people are SOCIOPATHS.

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What a fucking asshole.

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:04:44pm

re: #189 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I dare any TV outlet to run this soundtrack when Trump goes on one of his joyrides around the hospital:

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Video

..

Nah, better is the version from “Rebels” where they turned the grim march of Vader into the peppy “Patriotic” national anthem of the Empire…

Star Wars Rebels Season 1 OST - Glory to the Empire

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Dave In Austin  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:05:31pm
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:06:33pm

This has the ring of truth.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:07:40pm

re: #187 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

WWV and its sister stations could also have relevance now for another reason.

“The internet has become infamous as a purveyor of false information and counterfeit sites,” said Kim Andrew Elliott. “This is true even during emergencies, including the coronavirus outbreak.

“WWV and WWVH can be useful transmitters of emergency information: They are much more difficult to spoof than a website,” he told RW. “If a fake station tries to transmit on WWV/WWVH frequencies, co-channel with WWV and WWVH, the listener will hear immediately that something is not right. If the fake station comes from overseas, it will usually sound distant, compared to the signal we are used to hearing in North America.”

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:08:44pm

re: #187 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I have WWV’s number on speed dial at SATV, as a sanity check on our GPS timing.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:09:32pm

Bad taste? Too soon? Not soon enough?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:10:19pm
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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:12:08pm

re: #195 Sherlock Hound

This has the ring of truth.

Oh crap, been there done that :D

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:13:55pm

re: #189 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I dare any TV outlet to run this soundtrack when Trump goes on one of his joyrides around the hospital:

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..

I love the smile on John Williams’ face!

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NetworkKed  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:14:26pm

I don’t understand. Why would Trump getting discharged mean rising markets?

He doesn’t add value. He’s too damn incompetent even if he’s pro-wealth.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:16:16pm

re: #198 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Slovenian impressionist expertly captures look of shovel-worker.

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calochortus  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:19:00pm

re: #202 NetworkKed

I don’t understand. Why would Trump getting discharged mean rising markets?

He doesn’t add value. He’s too damn incompetent even if he’s pro-wealth.

Stability. Predictability. Financial markets hate chaos above all things.

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William Lewis  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:19:43pm

So, looking for something else on youtube and found this rather amazing mashup from starwars.

Obi-Wan has PTSD

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:20:52pm

Usually heard without words, I think it works better with song:

Sissel Kyrkjebø - Solveigs Song - 1991

..

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Interesting Times  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:22:29pm

Well played:

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fern01  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:23:23pm

re: #202 NetworkKed

I don’t understand. Why would Trump getting discharged mean rising markets?

He doesn’t add value. He’s too damn incompetent even if he’s pro-wealth.

The markets and too many Americans still think the GOP are better at economics than democrats - ideas which have been disproven again and again.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:26:36pm
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Jack Burton  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:30:11pm

re: #189 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Imperial March on calliope that Bob Cesca used to play on his podcast is still more fitting. Especially now. He’s is, always has been, and always will be a clown.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:31:13pm

re: #209 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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They really just like the racism. Bunch of dumbasses.

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Belafon  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:34:27pm

re: #198 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Bad taste? Too soon? Not soon enough?

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Would she really care that much?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:39:29pm

re: #190 bratwurst

Reminder: these people are SOCIOPATHS.

Remember the memo some months ago the DOJ put out saying wilfully spreading this disease could be prosecuted as terrorism (provided you’re not a Republican of course)?

People intentionally spreading coronavirus could be charged with terrorism, DOJ says (CNN, March 25)

If we don’t hold genocide trials, perhaps we can do this after Barr is out of the DOJ.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:47:24pm

re: #185 William Lewis

Another beautiful photo!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 4, 2020 • 8:56:01pm

re: #202 NetworkKed

I don’t understand. Why would Trump getting discharged mean rising markets?

He doesn’t add value. He’s too damn incompetent even if he’s pro-wealth.

Because the stock market bears no relationship to trade or commerce. It is only a wealth-transfer mechanism.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2020 • 4:42:15am

re: #103 Dave In Austin

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Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.


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