Psychedelic Friday Jam: The Flaming Lips: Tiny Desk (Home) Concert

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The Tiny Desk is working from home for the foreseeable future. Introducing NPR Music’s Tiny Desk (home) concerts, bringing you performances from across the country and the world. It’s the same spirit — stripped-down sets, an intimate setting — just a different space.

Bob Boilen | October 9, 2020
Wayne Coyne has appeared inside a bubble for over a decade. At concerts, he’d roll over the tops of adoring fans, their outstretched hands keeping him aloft. That was novelty long ago; now it seems prescient. For this Tiny Desk (home) concert, Wayne and his bandmates are seemingly quarantined from one another, with the bubble-sharing green-haired drummers and keyboards pairing off, playing together yet apart.

I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that going to a Flaming Lips concert stoned is a thing. The Flaming Lips have always embraced the surreal. Drugs are undoubtedly part of the culture, and on their new songs from American Head, drugs are at the core. These are songs for the lost, the overdosed dreamers, the damaged, the car crashed. On the album’s opening track “Will You Return/When You Come Down” (which also begins this concert), Steven Drozd asks in falsetto, “Will you return? Will you come down?” while Wayne Coyne responds, “Thinking back to those lost souls / And their ghosts / Floating around your bed / Hear it said / Now all your friends are dead.”

This visually enchanting Tiny Desk comes down to earth, with technical glitches that are fun to witness and keep it real.We hear old tunes sparking old memories, including “Be Free, A Way” from 2013’s The Terror and “It’s Summertime” from 2002’s Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots. It’s a thoughtful treat from a band that keeps on giving.

SET LIST
“Will You Return/When You Come Down”
“God And The Policeman”
“Be Free, A Way”
“It’s Summertime”

MUSICIANS
Wayne Coyne: vocals
Steven Drozd: keys, vocals
Michael Ivins: bass
Derek Brown: guitar, vocals
Jake Ingalls: keys
Matt Duckworth: drums
Nicholas Ley: percussion

CREDITS
Video By: Blake Studdard for AtriaCreative.co
Director: Blake Studdard & Wayne Coyne
Audio By: Michael Ivins
Producer: Bob Boilen
Video Producer: Maia Stern
Audio Mastering Engineer: Josh Rogosin
Associate Producer: Bobby Carter
Executive Producer: Lauren Onkey
Senior VP, Programming: Anya Grundmann

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:12:14pm

F zoom

(Having a bad tech night!)

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Decatur Deb  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:12:23pm

Yeah, that thing again. Get It Out.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:14:01pm

Fuck Trump and his whole fucking family.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:15:39pm
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A Mom Anon  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:17:19pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, Trump is totally known for his ability to study anything…I’d laugh but Newt is such a sack of shit, it’s not amusing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:21:28pm

pscp.tv

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:23:05pm
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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:23:22pm
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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:24:24pm

WATCH LIVE: Republican Sen. John Cornyn, Democrat MJ Hegar debate in Austin
kxan.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:25:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:27:09pm

re: #9 jaunte

WATCH LIVE: Republican Sen. John Cornyn, Democrat MJ Hegar debate in Austin
kxan.com

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:29:44pm

Cornyn now pretending federal judges are not political.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:32:15pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:33:10pm

So unlike his lord and master, Lindsey is willing to have a virtual debate. The troubling question remains: why is he refusing to take the test? Virtual debates are a better idea in this time of the pandemic anyway, but his behavior is troubling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:33:32pm
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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:35:40pm

Moderator points out that polling shows after 18 years in place, 24% of Texans don’t know who Cornyn is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:36:39pm

LIAR

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:37:05pm
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Jay C  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:39:29pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

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OK, loony-tunes as Trump’s gibberings about “tiny fish” are/were (and yes, this was a direct ripoff of some Alex Jones nonsense), this screed was from 2016 (though four years’ aging haven’t increased its flavor).

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:39:34pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:40:45pm

Forgive my ignorance, but are there any “leaders” in the Black Lives Matter movement? Hegar and Cornyn were each asked if either one of them had met with any leaders from BLM.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:42:24pm
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A Mom Anon  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:43:16pm

re: #21 Ace Rothstein

I think there might be march organizers on the local level, which is true of most marches. Route planning and other details, but not like some CEO you sit down with after making an appointment.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:43:48pm

I’d also like to add that MJ Hegar would make a fine Senator, and that I will be voting for her next week when early voting starts here in Texas.

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gwangung  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:44:04pm

re: #21 Ace Rothstein

Forgive my ignorance, but are there any “leaders” in the Black Lives Matter movement? Hegar and Cornyn were each asked if either one of them had met with any leaders from BLM.

There are always LOCAL organizers. Not that hard to contact one of them.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:44:05pm

Corny is a well-practiced Roberts Rules of Order liar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:44:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:46:19pm

YIKES

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:46:32pm

Cornyn doesn’t believe in systemic racism.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:46:39pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Taco trucks on every corner!

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:49:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:50:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:54:56pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:55:46pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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Come to think of it, those were the calmest and quietest days of the entirety of 2020.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:57:14pm

I disagreed with President Bush about many things, but I never found him to be an indecent person like this baboon.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:58:00pm

Cornyn warns of Hegar links with “Hollywood” and “East Coast Elites.”

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:58:41pm
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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:59:46pm

Cornyn: “M. J. wants to make Texas more like California or New York.”
Yes please.

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teleskiguy  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:59:51pm

re: #35 Ace Rothstein

I disagreed with President Bush about many things, but I never found him to be an indecent person like this baboon.

I did. He was a smug know-nothing who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. I wish there was a hell for him to burn in when he dies.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 9, 2020 • 5:59:53pm

re: #36 jaunte

Every time Corny says that stupid shit, MJ should roll up her sleeves, point to a tattoo and say “I got this one on my second tour of Afghanistan, motherfucker.”

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:00:06pm

Update on Governor Christie:

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:00:48pm

re: #34 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Come to think of it, those were the calmest and quietest days of the entirety of 2020.

I misread this as “the century of 2020” only I don’t think I actually misread it.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:00:49pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

It’s kind of impressive how many clichés he managed to pack in, for a relatively slow taker.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:02:08pm

re: #42 i(m)p(each)sos

I misread this as “the century of 2020” only I don’t think I actually misread it.

Truer words were never spoken, in actual fact.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:05:16pm

re: #35 Ace Rothstein

I disagreed with President Bush about many things, but I never found him to be an indecent person like this baboon.

He was bad. But not Trump bad.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:06:11pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

He was bad. But not Trump bad.

Bush, at least, had a code of honor and a semblance of responsibility. He was a fool and he made the mistake of trusting dangerous men, but he wasn’t inherently evil.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:07:58pm

Lre: #46 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bush, at least, had a code of honor and a semblance of responsibility. He was a fool and he made the mistake of trusting dangerous men, but he wasn’t inherently evil.

At least he didn’t act like a jerk to Obama unlike 99% of his party.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:08:04pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:08:49pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:09:22pm

re: #47 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

L

At least he didn’t act like a jerk to Obama unlike 99% of his party.

Hasn’t he also been implicitly critical of Trump? I know former Presidents generally don’t meddle in the affairs of current Presidents, but I seem to recall some Twitter exchanges where he showed his hand as an anti-Trumper.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:09:56pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:11:29pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

I’m trying to muster some sympathy for Christie.

Still trying.

Nope. Not coming.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:12:07pm

re: #52 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I have no sympathy for the Jersey Whale.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:12:36pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:13:22pm

I’m not saying nice things about the guy who tried to do a colonialism in Iraq and built a surveillance state that was directed against people who didn’t like that idea.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:14:17pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Ah yes another member of the Master Race speaks!….

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:14:28pm
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stpaulbear  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:14:45pm

re: #35 Ace Rothstein

I disagreed with President Bush about many things, but I never found him to be an indecent person like this baboon.

The Irish Times:

Exhibit No 1 was George W. Bush, the shrub who would install himself on the White House lawn. Bush had apparently been letting his tongue run loose in the presence of a reporter. The subject had been the death penalty, a topic upon which Bush is almost uniquely qualified. In September the state of Texas executed the 100th person to have met death under his governorship.

Specifically the name of Karla Faye Tucker came up. Tucker, convicted of a double murder, had become a born-again Christian in jail and, as the date of her execution approached, had become a media star in many places…

In brief, Bush was apparently asked if he had met any of those pressing Karla Faye Tucker’s case for clemency. Bush said he hadn’t, but claimed to have seen an incident on the Larry King show wherein King had asked Karla Faye Tucker what she would say if she could speak directly with George W.

What was her answer? the Talk reporter asked Bush. And George W. apparently puckered his lips and, in a mocking, simpering tone said: “Please don’t kill me.”

For a while the old rap against Bush snr, the man born with a silver foot in his mouth, appeared to have returned to haunt George W. His campaign team denied that the exchange had taken place and the squall passed over quickly as America continued to admire the slick funding operation which has made Bush such a phenomenon.

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stpaulbear  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:16:04pm

#58 edited for clarity. Refresh.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:16:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:16:29pm
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sagehen  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:16:56pm

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:17:53pm

re: #50 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The only time you see or hear from Bush is at a funeral.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:17:55pm

re: #50 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He’s responsible for a lot of damage, his administration and political operatives began fomenting hatred of liberals within days of 9/11. But I don’t think he personally hated liberals and wanted them dead. Or hung as traitors. His biggest issue was not slapping that shit down to win another election. That laid the groundwork for where we find ourselves now.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:19:43pm

re: #64 A Mom Anon

He’s responsible for a lot of damage, his administration and political operatives began fomenting hatred of liberals within days of 9/11. But I don’t think he personally hated liberals and wanted them dead. Or hung as traitors. His biggest issue was not slapping that shut down to win another election. That laid the groundwork for where we find ourselves now.

I generally agree with this. I’ve always regarded him personally as an okay guy - by all accounts, easygoing, halfway intelligent, and personable. I’ve also maintained that most of his bad decisions were the result of trusting men like Karl Rove and Dick Cheney - his lack of judgment when it came to choosing his trusted advisers is his biggest mistake, in my eyes.

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plansbandc  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:20:26pm

My friend’s father died of a heart attack today. He was at the hospital for an angiogram and dropped dead. JFC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:20:45pm

...

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:20:46pm

I’m not trying to be a dick, but…this is exactly how normalization works.

The worst behavior covers for the behavior so bad that it shouldn’t ever have been acceptable.

Trump is the same abuses of power and the same cruelty but less Vaseline on the lens.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:21:15pm

re: #66 plansbandc

My friend’s father died of a heart attack today. He was at the hospital for an angiogram and dropped dead. JFC.

{{{plansbandc}}}

That is tragic. Let me know if there is any way we can be of practical assistance to you or your friend.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:21:23pm
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:22:15pm

re: #66 plansbandc

I am very sorry to hear that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:23:22pm
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A Mom Anon  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:24:30pm

re: #70 Dread Pirate Ron

He’s in burn it all down mode now. Abusers are most dangerous when they feel like they are losing control. He is losing this, he knows it, and it’s not going to stop until he is stopped.

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teleskiguy  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:24:47pm

re: #46 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bush, at least, had a code of honor and a semblance of responsibility. He was a fool and he made the mistake of trusting dangerous men, but he wasn’t inherently evil.

Yes he was.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:25:33pm

So anyone… lokshen kugel With goat cheese instead of cottage cheese? Yea or nay?

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plansbandc  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:26:42pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

Badass bobcat.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:26:55pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:27:36pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:27:57pm

re: #66 plansbandc

I’m so very sorry for your and her loss.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:29:47pm
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Jack Burton  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:33:01pm

re: #80 Rightwingconspirator

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I still think aside from Trump at the very least Andrew Jackson and James Buchanan were worse than Bush. I’m sure there’s a few more.

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retired cynic  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:33:12pm

re: #80 Rightwingconspirator

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It depends on whether you compare the hundreds of thousands of people killed in the middle east in Bush wars and the aftermath to the hundreds of thousands of people killed by covid-19 and whatever comes of destroying economies and stirring up nuclear probabilities with Iran and North Korea, and not containing China, and ignoring regional fires that we should have been helpful in containing … and on and on.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:33:59pm

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:35:00pm

re: #65 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I generally agree with this. I’ve always regarded him personally as an okay guy - by all accounts, easygoing, halfway intelligent, and personable. I’ve also maintained that most of his bad decisions were the result of trusting men like Karl Rove and Dick Cheney - his lack of judgment when it came to choosing his trusted advisers is his biggest mistake, in my eyes.

Reagan and Bush were uniquely bad managers. Reagan in particular was a terrible head of government. Bush wasn’t as “bad”, but I thought he took too many bad habits from Reagan.

Also remember that the Mercers, Kocks, et al, were and are prominent in the Republican community. They have played the long game for 50 years, ever since LBJ.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:36:47pm

re: #74 teleskiguy

Yes he was.

Lawful evil.
Nice evil.
Polite evil.

Evil can resemble a cute Smurf.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:36:48pm

re: #80 Rightwingconspirator

Invading Iraq, while cutting taxes is pretty hard to beat

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:39:30pm

re: #86 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Invading Iraq, while cutting taxes is pretty hard to beat

It is, and any reply by way of arguing something Trump something worse might be misplaced energy. Manksy and I agree. All that energy is aimed at Trump.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:40:21pm

What Republican damage was worse? Fuck it, all of it.

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Jack Burton  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:41:24pm

re: #86 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Invading Iraq, while cutting taxes is pretty hard to beat

Trail of Tears

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:42:57pm

…

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:44:09pm

OMG LOL

open.spotify.com

Iframe

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:53:14pm

WTFITS?

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dangerman  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:56:05pm

re: #68 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m not trying to be a dick, but…this is exactly how normalization works.

The worst behavior covers for the behavior so bad that it shouldn’t ever have been acceptable.

Trump is the same abuses of power and the same cruelty but less Vaseline on the lens.

he’s going to do a rally speech from the wh balcony
and the reaction: meh

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Decatur Deb  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:56:10pm

re: #92 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

WTFITS?

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The water fountains have been removed.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:57:18pm

re: #93 dangerman

he’s going to do a rally speech from the wh balcony
and the reaction: meh

Can it be shown in split screen with a historical clip of Mussolini doing the same?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 9, 2020 • 6:58:38pm

re: #95 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It should be shown with a split screen so that everyone can see where DT got his act from.

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dangerman  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:03:16pm

re: #77 jaunte

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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention drafted a sweeping order last month requiring all passengers and employees to wear masks on all forms of public and commercial transportation in the United States, but it was blocked by the White House,” the New York Times reports

.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:04:19pm

re: #97 dangerman

Why am I not surprised?

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Kilroy was here  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:08:47pm

If they only had any shame..

The Walk of Shame

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:10:50pm

re: #99 Kilroy was here

Complements to the Lincoln Project. They do a very good job.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:11:07pm

re: #99 Kilroy was here

If they only had any shame..

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Video

I love the latest LP video.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:11:28pm

re: #92 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

WTFITS?

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I guess we can assume he wasn’t planning on getting a single african american vote anyway. So, he may as well lock down all those “Klan-adjacent” voter. Not to mention all the out of state contributors

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:12:48pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:17:23pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:20:19pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:20:46pm

These people are fucked in the head.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:25:00pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

These people are fucked in the head.

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How… homoerotic.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:25:51pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

These people are fucked in the head.

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He’s so homo-erotic.

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piratedan  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:26:54pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

well that certainly explains the GOP’s ticket stellar performance with women and especially middle class women… perhaps pipe-fitting isn’t an essentially qualifying trait for running a country as they think.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:30:29pm

re: #109 piratedan

well that certainly explains the GOP’s ticket stellar performance with women and especially middle class women… perhaps pipe-fitting isn’t an essentially qualifying trait for running a country as they think.

It makes about as much sense as “I want to have a beer with George Bush,” a non drinker. Or Sarah Palin is attractive. The method of Republicans picking leaders is not only telling, but explains why this country is so fucked up.

FT

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:31:44pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:32:44pm

My weekend, month, year has been made.

Yankees lose to Rays

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plansbandc  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:35:29pm

re: #112 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Oh no. The Yankees lost? LOL

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:35:50pm

Delta starting to move northeast quickly. Unfortunately the radar closest to the landing is out, but some of the other radars work:

Image: southmissvly-loop.gif

Though Delta weakened before landing and continues to weaken, lots of wind and rain damage. This is the same area damaged by Laura not long ago.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:37:15pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

These people are fucked in the head.

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Redefining pipe dream.

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LadyBehir  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:37:24pm

PA former Governor Ridge endorses Biden? Saw a billboard on I180 today that claimed that!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:37:36pm

some of us are Yankee fans. next year I guess.

On the plus side, I’ll take a Biden Landslide over another Yankee Championship any day.

Night,

Peace and FT

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Decatur Deb  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:39:21pm

re: #116 LadyBehir

PA former Governor Ridge endorses Biden? Saw a billboard on I180 today that claimed that!

Some number of weeks ago. He’s one of those vanished sane Republicans we like to imagine.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:39:38pm

re: #100 PhillyPretzel

Complements to the Lincoln Project. They do a very good job.

Thing is, that worm will turn come February.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:39:48pm

re: #117 I Would Prefer Not To

Our 0-13 record against you in the playoffs in the last 16 years means that on principle, I should dislike you. But I can’t. Good night, get a good rest.

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plansbandc  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:40:35pm

re: #117 I Would Prefer Not To

Yankees will win once they get Arenado.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:42:13pm

Piotrowski from a bit over an hour ago, in Lake Charles, which was on the west side of Delta:

pscp.tv

The overturned trucks… who drives a semi over a high bridge in the middle of a hurricane?

Oh yeah, that’s right, this is America, and now every truck is satellite tracked and drivers dare not stop for an hour or they’ll be in trouble.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:44:04pm

I hope the 5th Circuit doesn’t stay this order.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:46:05pm

re: #117 I Would Prefer Not To

some of us are Yankee fans. next year I guess.

On the plus side, I’ll take a Biden Landslide over another Yankee Championship any day.

Night,

Peace and FT

Yeah. I’d have traded that cubbies world series win if it meant trump would have lost. In a Chicago minute.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:49:48pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:57:57pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 9, 2020 • 7:58:13pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:01:11pm

4th Quarter of game 5 of the NBA finals on now. Rooting for the Lakers, because A. D. is my favorite player.

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piratedan  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:01:52pm

re: #127 Dave In Austin

wonder if they bothered to ask Cornym how he feels about family separation for asylum seekers, or masking laws for the public health or about the number of convictions that surround people with the President’s campaign…. or the GOP’s response on focusing on getting a SCOTUS pick approved while aid bills can’t even get to the floor of the Senate?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:03:39pm

re: #129 piratedan

wonder if they bothered to ask Cornym how he feels about family separation for asylum seekers, or masking laws for the public health or about the number of convictions that surround people with the President’s campaign…. or the GOP’s response on focusing on getting a SCOTUS pick approved while aid bills can’t even get to the floor of the Senate?

It’s funny how all the questions about court packing are aimed at the Democrats while the Republicans are currently engaging in court packing, and have been for years.

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piratedan  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:05:53pm

re: #130 NO SMOCKING GUN!

yeah Hegar has to go on the record regarding that and does anyone turn around and ask Cornym how he can justify the rush to put a judge who has a grand total of 3 years experience onto the higher court when their own precedent that the cited just four years ago is somehow null and void now… funny ain’t it?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:09:30pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:13:46pm
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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:14:12pm
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:14:58pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:15:19pm

re: #134 jaunte

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Fuck you Cornyn.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:16:37pm

re: #135 Sherlock Hound

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Bragman is one of those people who have risen in political journalism and I don’t have a clue why. He’s a clueless out of touch cosplay socialist dick.

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Belafon  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:17:52pm

Adam Silverman has an article up about that group hiring the people who are being set up to intimidate voters in Minnesota, how it’s illegal, and what to do if you see them: balloon-juice.com

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Jack Burton  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:18:16pm

re: #134 jaunte

Cornyn want’s to claim Pre-Existing Conditions aren’t really a thing and justify not covering them.

Right after it’s shown that the US public supports covering pre-existing conditions by like.. almost 100%. The MAGAts support it and straight up don’t believe the GOP and Trump do not when told otherwise.

So Cornyn really wants to go this route, out loud?

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:20:39pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:22:02pm
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Sherlock Hound  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:22:53pm

re: #110 I Would Prefer Not To

It makes about as much sense as “I want to have a beer with George Bush,” a non drinker. Or Sarah Palin is attractive. The method of Republicans picking leaders is not only telling, but explains why this country is so fucked up.

FT

You may recall Rich Lowry and his famous “Starbursts!” quote. (It only proved that Lowry had enough libido to destroy his TV in an act of unrequited passion.)

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Belafon  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:22:58pm
In January of 2017, Michael Tubbs of Stockton, California, became the city’s first Black mayor as well as the youngest person elected to that office, at age 26. Not long after coming into office, Mayor Tubbs announced that Stockton would become the first American testing ground for a basic income program. Stockton has suffered economic hardship since the early ’00s and Tubbs promoted a leadership that would invest in the people of Stockton and not simply the image of Stockton. “Work does have some value and some dignity, but I don’t think working 14 hours and not being able to pay your bills, or working two jobs and not being able—there’s nothing inherently dignified about that.”

The Stockton program, funded by private donations, began in February of 2019, through the Stockton Economic Empowerment Demonstration (SEED), giving 125 residents $500 a month with no stipulations on what the money could be used for. One of the benefits to this kind of program is that it allows individual residents and their families make decisions on what is the best way to spend that money, to meet their personal needs. As Tubbs told The Guardian in March of this year, “Everyone we talked to, there was a different way they would use $500, and they all made sense. There was no way, as a government official, I would be smart enough to think of all that.”

Tubbs has been able to extend the program through January to help meet some of the stresses the Trump-driven pandemic has brought to his city. But his example, considered radical just a couple of years ago, is finding its way into other mayoral platforms and policy pushes. CBS reports that mayors in at least 25 cities are pledging their support for similar UBI-style pilot programs.

m.dailykos.com

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piratedan  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:23:15pm

re: #140 jaunte

looks like they’re all on script about how they want to protect Pre-existing Conditions, while their votes for the last 10 years say otherwise and hoping that enough people haven’t been paying attention. Hoping Hegar has receipts and isn’t afraid to audit his ass.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:27:33pm

re: #131 piratedan

yeah Hegar has to go on the record regarding that and does anyone turn around and ask Cornym how he can justify the rush to put a judge who has a grand total of 3 years experience onto the higher court when their own precedent that the cited just four years ago is somehow null and void now… funny ain’t it?

These Republicans are also incredibly shortsighted. If the Court strikes the ACA, the alternative won’t be returning to the bad old days. Public outrage will force the Democrats to abolish the filibuster and enact M4A who want it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:30:25pm
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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:32:03pm

Corrupt Republicans climbing out of the woodwork in their last act.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:33:47pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:34:25pm

re: #147 jaunte

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Corrupt Republicans climbing out of the woodwork in their last act.

I’ve never liked Dole but I had hoped since he’s known Biden for years that he would at least be quietly backing Biden.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:35:07pm

re: #149 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I wanted to think better of him, but I just can’t.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:36:00pm

What’s a $560k tip just to help out a Russian buddy?

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:36:40pm

I mean, have a smidgen of judgement.

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plansbandc  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:38:25pm

re: #150 jaunte

No reason to ever think better of any Republican.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:43:57pm

Heat pull out game 5 to force a game 6 in the NBA finals.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:45:10pm

Posted just for the 21st century Texas name Sri Preston Kulkarni.

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jaunte  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:48:48pm

“…Changing demographics and a narrow escape in the 2018 elections helped persuade longtime Republican Congressman Pete Olson not to run for reelection in U.S. House District 22 this year.

The six-term incumbent’s departure sets up a showdown that mirrors the presidential race with Sri Preston Kulkarni representing the moderate approach of Democrat Joe Biden and Fort Bend County sheriff Troy Nehls aligned with the positions of President Donald Trump and the Republican Party.”

houstonchronicle.com

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:58:27pm
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BeachDem  Oct 9, 2020 • 8:59:28pm

re: #142 Sherlock Hound

You may recall Rich Lowry and his famous “Starbursts!” quote. (It only proved that Lowry had enough libido to destroy his TV in an act of unrequited passion.)

I also remember when Lindsey Graham first heard about Palin, he first mispronounced her name and then said she’d be great because she could field dress a moose.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 9:06:46pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 9:09:28pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 9, 2020 • 9:19:47pm

How did Trump’s medical examination on Bowtie Boy’s go?

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 9, 2020 • 9:27:54pm

re: #46 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bush, at least, had a code of honor and a semblance of responsibility. He was a fool and he made the mistake of trusting dangerous men, but he wasn’t inherently evil.

Dumbya lied us into a war that killed my son.

Trump lied us into a pandemic that will soon kill 250,000.

Crooked sleazy-assed Pulpit Pimps kissed both of their asses endlessly.

Both of those motherfathers need to burn in hell.

There is NOTHING that will ever damp down the white hot hate I have for that piece of shit Dumbya.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 9, 2020 • 9:32:00pm

Who’s surprised? Anyone?

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BeachDem  Oct 9, 2020 • 9:36:12pm

re: #161 Ace Rothstein

How did Trump’s medical examination on Bowtie Boy’s go?

Per HuffPo:

HUCKSTER ‘HEALTH ASSESSMENT’ IN PRIMETIME!

huffpost.com

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 9, 2020 • 9:39:15pm

re: #163 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Who’s surprised? Anyone?

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Did you expect those Radical Xtians to say anything else?

If Trump went into an ICE prison with a machine gun and slaughtered those kids in cages the Xtains would GLADLY justify it in the name of Jesus.

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piratedan  Oct 9, 2020 • 9:40:16pm

re: #162 🌹UOJB!

and while the amount of “American deaths” may not be the same, I refuse to discount the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of other lives lost because this asshat felt the need to find any justification needed to “avenge” his old man. Shrub has a more civil face, but his hands are just as bloody and the death he brought forth at least had a patina of policy justification (not really a helluva lot but folks will make the argument). Trump is just a self-serving selfish asshat who cares about himself and little else, we’re all not even humans to him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 9, 2020 • 10:14:47pm

re: #166 piratedan

and while the amount of “American deaths” may not be the same, I refuse to discount the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of other lives lost because this asshat felt the need to find any justification needed to “avenge” his old man. Shrub has a more civil face, but his hands are just as bloody and the death he brought forth at least had a patina of policy justification (not really a helluva lot but folks will make the argument). Trump is just a self-serving selfish asshat who cares about himself and little else, we’re all not even humans to him.

Let’s not forget that if Trump had not maliciously dismantled the Obama programs to detect and deal with novel diseases, many of the 800,000 deaths and counting outside the United States might also have been avoided. So Trump may be responsible for as many deaths worldwide as Shrub.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 9, 2020 • 11:17:28pm

Heh, rewatching S4 of The Expanse. “Holden, Don’t put your dick in it, it’s fucked enough already.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 12:00:37am
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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2020 • 12:26:41am

re: #147 jaunte

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Corrupt Republicans climbing out of the woodwork in their last act.

You know what’s truly unfair, Bob? The fact that Biden showed up early enough to submit to the test that both campaigns agreed to as part of the pre-debate prep, but Trump was allowed to skip on the “honor system” because he rolled in late. What’s unfair is that, as people work through the evidence, it’s becoming clear that Trump either knew or suspected he was infected prior to the debate and so willfully violated that “honor system” because an admission to the committee would have meant canceling the debate. And what’s unfair is the very real possibility that Trump went there with an active infection with the hope that one or more members of the Biden campaign would catch it from him.

Now blow your “bias” out your ass, Bob.

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PrairieQueen  Oct 10, 2020 • 12:41:33am

re: #163 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It was a given. After all, these people believe he’s chosen by God and pray for his protection. Using embryonic stem cells is God’s will.// Anything that’s luck of the draw or happens in spite of or would happen no matter is God’s will.

Tornado kills 300 people, one child survives = God’s will, a miracle!
Trump receives medication made from contraband = God’s will, that substance died for Trump

I stopped trying to apply logic to anything the religious right says or believes eons ago. Thanks again, Saint Ronnie, for their trajectory and influence.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 1:04:54am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 1:52:49am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 2:02:41am

hi

The igNobel prizes were awarded a couple weeks ago.

Amongst the winners:

A group of scientists who induced standing waves on earthworms
A group of scientists who gave helium to a crocodile to study sound in non-avian reptiles
The governments of Pakistan and India, for having their diplomats play “ding dong ditch” on each other’s homes (this was the igNobel Peace Prize)
Politicians Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, and several dictators in Medicine, showing politicians have greater effect on the course of a pandemic than scientists.

YouTuber Nervardia (a religion counter-apologist) breaks down the papers and the awards ceremony video. Donald Trump did not appear to collect his prize. (19:11)

The Best Day of the Year for Science (Ignobel Prize 2020)

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2020 • 2:12:11am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Donald Trump did not appear to collect his prize. (19:11)

When Halle Berry won the Razzie for Catwoman, she showed up in person to collect her statuette.

Halle Berry accepts her RAZZIE® Award

I have a good deal of respect for people who can poke fun at themselves.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 2:13:08am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

With Donald Trump constantly asserting that he should be awarded the “Noble Prize,” I think he, the GOP, and every Republican politician should be relentlessly trolled that he won the igNobel Prize in medical education.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 2:15:54am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

When Halle Berry won the Razzie for Catwoman, she showed up in person to collect her statuette.

I have a good deal of respect for people who can poke fun at themselves.

It is not common for people to show up to collect their igNobel Prize and be mocked by a little girl as is customary.

This year’s award ceremony was held over Zoom, and the vast majority of the prize winners appeared to collect their prize.

30th First Annual Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony (1:16:13)

The 30th First Annual Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony

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PrairieQueen  Oct 10, 2020 • 2:18:12am

re: #162 🌹UOJB!

Let me say, I’m so sorry your son was killed in Bush/Cheney’s stupid profitable phony fucking war. You know firsthand the price this country paid for shitty politics.

I do not hold that regime in any higher esteem than the current and I’m still pissed they weren’t tried for war crimes, never mention the introduction to the idiocy of another patient zero grifter, Sarah Palin. That nationalist propaganda horseshit laid the groundwork for the current herd of emboldened fascists.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 2:32:35am

re: #178 PrairieQueen

Let me say, I’m so sorry your son was killed in Bush/Cheney’s stupid profitable phony fucking war. You know firsthand the price this country paid for shitty politics.

I do not hold that regime in any higher esteem than the current and I’m still pissed they weren’t tried for war crimes, never mention the introduction to the idiocy of another patient zero grifter, Sarah Palin. That nationalist propaganda horseshit laid the groundwork for the current herd of emboldened fascists.

True enough.

That does not diminish Joe’s son’s, or his own, sacrifices. Joe is a member of the same club I’m a member of, a club which no one ever wants to add another member.

In the case of the Iraq War, the president of the Nebraska Gold Star Mothers and Families also lost her son. She wears the Gold Star Family pin proudly, as a testament to the folly of war.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 2:39:07am

I still love the Ignobel prize for lighting a Smokey Joe BBQ with LOX best.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 2:52:38am

The complete list of Ig Nobel prize winners:

2020 Winners

Amongst the list:

Psychology: for showing a strong correlation on how to identify a narcissist by looking only at their eyebrows

Economics: Showing a positive correlation between income inequality and mouth-to-mouth kissing (the more kissing, the greater economic inequality in a society)

Management: To five Chinese hitmen, who each subcontracted a hit to the next in line, each taking a cut, and the last convincing the target to fake his death, so all of them swindled the contractor.

Entomology: For showing entomologists are scared of spiders.

(more at the link, with details of the winners and awards)

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ckkatz  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:02:28am

This is not the usual feel good narrative. Ari Melber may be playing contrarian, but he may also have a point. The election is definitely _not_ in the bag.

Trump’s Crashing In Polls After ‘Hell Week’ - But Biden Trails Clinton’s 2016 Edge | MSNBC

Trump’s Crashing In Polls After ‘Hell Week’ - But Biden Trails Clinton’s 2016 Edge | MSNBC

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:07:01am

Hurricane Delta has been downgraded to a tropical storm.

It is expected to become a tropical depression later today as it moves over northern Mississippi, then into Tennessee, then into Kentucky, southern Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

A deep trough plunging into Texas is directing the storm, keeping the High Plains under stable but cold weather. (Hurricanes usually affect our weather here in Western Nebraska with strong northerly winds, frequently causing snow late in the hurricane season.)

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

In the central Atlantic, there is a tropical wave with a low chance of development.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:08:57am

re: #182 ckkatz

This is not the usual feel good narrative. Ari Melber may be playing contrarian, but he may also have a point. The election is definitely _not_ in the bag.

Trump’s Crashing In Polls After ‘Hell Week’ - But Biden Trails Clinton’s 2016 Edge | MSNBC

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Video

Not doing “much” better than Clinton means Biden is drawing more votes than Clinton.

Ari also says he doesn’t involve himself in “horse race” polls, then goes into horse race narratives.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:12:55am

re: #182 ckkatz

Ari Melber (paraphrased): While Biden is doing no better than Clinton in most states, he is doing better in key battleground states.

Most states are baked in for one party or the other. “Doing better in key battleground states” means Biden is doing better than Trump.

Ari going with the “I’m not interested in a horse race” then immediately promotes a horse race.

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ckkatz  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:20:59am

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Not doing “much” better than Clinton means Biden is drawing more votes than Clinton.

Ari also says he doesn’t involve himself in “horse race” polls, then goes into horse race narratives.

As alway, ymmv. And you have shown yourself to be an astute observer. Further, far be it for me to defend Ari Melber.

However, his argument is that in Pa Biden is up 7.1 but Clinton was up 8.4 at this same point in the 2016. In Wisconsin Biden is up 5.5 but Clinton was up 6.7. In Michigan the numbers are Biden 6.7 but Clinton 10.7.

That said, one of the failings of the 2016 polls was in the determination of “Likely Voter”. In particular, the polls significantly underestimated “Likely Republican Voters”.

Maybe it means nothing, maybe it means everything. What it means to me is that this thing is not in the bag at this point.

edit: We got typos - Iin to in, Wisconsn to Wisconsin, zapped a superfluous ‘campaign’.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:22:51am

forecast.weather.gov

Yay. Current temperature 32°F (0 Commie). Red flag warning throughout the Panhandle. Smoke from continued fires in Colorado and Wyoming.

Current AQI: 88 (rising)
airnow.gov

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:26:42am

re: #186 ckkatz

As alway, ymmv. And you have shown yourself to be an astute observer. Further, far be it for me to defend Ari Melber. (rest cut)

Aww, thanks, I don’t have anything better to do right now. My wife is keeping me wrapped in cotton balls and practically prohibiting me from going outside, due to my elevated risk of Covid-19 (latent tuberculosis). She even stopped me from going to the general store here in town to fulfill my vices (rum, smokes, lotto tickets, ramen noodles), insisting she would go.

She won’t even let me go to the mailbox to get our mail.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:36:25am

Speaking of elevated risk of Covid-19, Panhandle Public Health District out with revised numbers.

Panhandle Public Health District Dashboard

Positive cases were revised for October 8, tripling the number to 34.
Yesterday added 12.
Most by age: 20-29, then 10-19, women and girls remain 2/3 of cases.
The slope of cumulative cases is now greater than 45°. (Rising number of cases versus time.)
There are 2 active cases in my county, but no cases in my village.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:39:12am

Current temperature here is equal to the surface temp of the Pacific Ocean off the SF coast. Pretty typical when there isn’t major heat or cold waves at night. It is 58F. AQI here is finally in the green. I smoked (tobacco) for 40 years so any AQI less than 400 is nothing. I quit smoking (tobacco) in 2016. I’ve smoked weed for 50 years, except for 10 years when my daughters were in their impressionable years.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:45:58am

a repeat

YouTube

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:50:28am

DISCUSSION…As of 09Z (4AM CDT), Tropical Storm Delta was located
about 45 miles south-southeast of Monroe, LA with the storm
continuing to steadily weaken as it lifts north-northeast through
the lower MS Valley.

The radar depiction of Delta continues to deteriorate with the
heaviest rain confined to an area northeast of the center over far
northeast LA and west-central MS where some very cold convective
tops have blossomed over the last couple of hours. In fact, MRMS
data show some isolated 1.5 inch/hr rainfall rates occurring
within this cluster of stronger convection. However, the rest of
the precipitation shield associated with Delta is much less
impressive.

(more)

wpc.ncep.noaa.gov

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ckkatz  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:53:23am

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Aww, thanks, I don’t have anything better to do right now. My wife is keeping me wrapped in cotton balls and practically prohibiting me from going outside, due to my elevated risk of Covid-19 (latent tuberculosis). She even stopped me from going to the general store here in town to fulfill my vices (rum, smokes, lotto tickets, ramen noodles), insisting she would go.

She won’t even let me go to the mailbox to get our mail.

It is very considerate of your lady to do what she can to protect you.

It’s interesting how folks respond to the pandemic. Some, such as myself, are fine with playing introvert and staying mostly isolated. Others, such as one friend of mine, almost view the lockdown requirement as a personal insult and a burden.

My planning, has been as follows (with, admittedly, little basis in actual data)

I am assuming that Covid will follow the 1918 Flu pandemic. With two more waves, one this fall and the final one in the late winter and early spring.

Looking at the numbers for my county about 23,000 out of a million folks have been diagnosed with Covid. About 2%. (~2200 hospitalized and ~600 deceased) Many of the infections were concentrated in small communities. (A couple of old age communities and certain immigrant communities.)

For personal planning (and a complete guess), I have been assuming twice that number have actually been infected. Which gives me a rough infection total of maybe 5%. For the purposes of the next wave, I am assuming that the % population infected will increase by multiples of that 5%. For a place holder, I am assuming a 15-20% infection total at the end of the second wave. And that the third wave will again increase the % population infected. For a placeholder, I am assuming a 50% infection total at that point.

I am also hoping that the third wave will finally be met by effective public health response.

Anyway, I am looking at significantly increasing my sheltering in place at the end of October. Thursday I got what I expect will be mu final haircut for this year. I will begin to limit my excursions to one or two per week, mostly to the grocery and hardware stores. I will also further curtail my going into buildings other than my house.

As noted, none of this has much basis in data, but provides me with a framework if I ever do find useful data.

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ckkatz  Oct 10, 2020 • 3:55:01am

Anyway off to do other things. bbl

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:02:42am

Kara Eastman receives endorsement from Sen. McCollister, Republican who called out Trump (Omaha World-Herald)

Kara Eastman is the Democratic challenger to Rep. Don Bacon (R) in NE-2.

Sen. McCollister (R) is the state senator (district 20) who has called out the GOP for supporting white supremacists.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:07:15am

re: #46 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bush, at least, had a code of honor and a semblance of responsibility. He was a fool and he made the mistake of trusting dangerous men, but he wasn’t inherently evil.

Why I always referred to him as a meat puppet. He just went along with others that were pulling his strings.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:08:06am

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

McCollister criticized Bacon for voting with Trump and the GOP more than 90% of the time. That is fealty, McCollister said. Last month, McCollister endorsed Democrat Joe Biden for president.

Bacon said Friday he wasn’t surprised by the endorsement for several reasons, including that McCollister didn’t respond positively when he reached out earlier this year. McCollister told Bacon’s camp he was staying out of the race. He said he changed his mind because of the name-calling ads against Eastman.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:11:42am

re: #193 ckkatz

It is very considerate of your lady to do what she can to protect you.

That’s why I keep her on staff. /s

She noted tonight that in her opinion, our isolation since the epidemic started, she thinks we have grown even closer. (Awww.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:15:02am

Since I support them at the highest level, you have to suffer me posting their videos here. Those are the rules.

(9:45, goes to Utah Outcasts, caution for adult subjects and coarse language)

Christians are trying to get her killed through stochastic terrorism.

Josh Bernstein Uses Slur and Suggests Execution for Representative Omar

Josh Bernstein Uses Slur and Suggests Execution for Representative Omar

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:20:48am

YouTube

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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:22:25am

re: #138 Belafon

Adam Silverman has an article up about that group hiring the people who are being set up to intimidate voters in Minnesota, how it’s illegal, and what to do if you see them: balloon-juice.com

The Georgetown Univ tab on that thread might be the most useful bit of infromation posted this month. We’ll incorporate it in our county Dems’ voter support action planning.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:26:46am

I’m off to bed. I’ll catch y’all later.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:34:03am

Out of my brain, on a train!

YouTube

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:38:52am

Delta is moving to the northeast quite quickly now, the center about to cross the Mississippi river at the Arkansas/Louisiana line:

Image: G16-sector-smv-Night-Microphysics-24fr-20201010-0734.gif

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:42:15am

I’m watching Quadrophenia, if you haven’t guessed.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:42:16am

re: #172 Dread Pirate Ron

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Trump isn’t visible to the press because he likes to wear his Eeyore onesie when he is sick.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:43:16am

Louisiana are fortunate that Delta hit near low tide. This water gauge looks like it gave out when the level hit 10.4’ above MSL:

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:44:56am

re: #206 Shropshire Slasher

Trump isn’t visible to the press because he likes to wear his Eeyore onesie when he is sick.

I bet he’s feeling like Eeyore right about now.

/who knew FF spellcheck knew the right spelling for his name.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 10, 2020 • 4:45:54am

re: #208 Dread Pirate Ron

I bet he’s feeling like Eeyore right about now.

/who knew FF spellcheck knew the right spelling for his name.

Lol, I had to use talk to text.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 10, 2020 • 5:06:11am

Quadrophenia is better than Tommy. Change my mind.

/spellcheck does not know Quadrophenia.

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garzooma  Oct 10, 2020 • 5:13:49am

re: #182 ckkatz

This is not the usual feel good narrative. Ari Melber may be playing contrarian, but he may also have a point. The election is definitely _not_ in the bag.

Trump’s Crashing In Polls After ‘Hell Week’ - But Biden Trails Clinton’s 2016 Edge | MSNBC

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From a Twitter comment:

I’m so sick of this take. STOP looking at margins and START looking at percentages. Having a 10 pt lead but sitting at 42% is a lot less safe than having a 6 pt lead and sitting at 50%. Biden is at or above 49% in every swing state and HRC could barely break 45% in any of them.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 10, 2020 • 5:20:04am

.

Debussy : Rêverie

..

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ericblair  Oct 10, 2020 • 5:25:55am

re: #208 Dread Pirate Ron

I bet he’s feeling like Eeyore right about now.

/who knew FF spellcheck knew the right spelling for his name.

We’re all Eeyores now.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 10, 2020 • 5:30:23am

re: #213 ericblair

We’re all Eeyores now.

We always were Eeyores:

You don’t have free will, but don’t worry.

..

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 10, 2020 • 5:34:51am

Though determinism may seem unpleasant, I find it of some comfort when I don’t win the lottery even though I have all 6 numbers in my notes and/or plays.

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JC1  Oct 10, 2020 • 5:48:42am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

hi

The igNobel prizes were awarded a couple weeks ago.

Amongst the winners:

A group of scientists who induced standing waves on earthworms
A group of scientists who gave helium to a crocodile to study sound in non-avian reptiles
The governments of Pakistan and India, for having their diplomats play “ding dong ditch” on each other’s homes (this was the igNobel Peace Prize)
Politicians Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, and several dictators in Medicine, showing politicians have greater effect on the course of a pandemic than scientists.

YouTuber Nervardia (a religion counter-apologist) breaks down the papers and the awards ceremony video. Donald Trump did not appear to collect his prize. (19:11)

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I attended an ignoble awards ceremony in person close to 20 years ago, it was great fun.

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jeffreyw  Oct 10, 2020 • 5:54:58am

Good morning!

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 10, 2020 • 5:56:56am

re: #211 garzooma

From a Twitter comment:

Look at the favorables too. Both Biden and Harris have net positives.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:02:58am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:06:10am

re: #193 ckkatz

I hope the pandemic won’t following the 1918 model because wave two, IIRC, Was the most deadly.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:08:37am

re: #219 Dave In Austin

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:10:01am

re: #219 Dave In Austin

T5/eWQ/SM6Mvr4LYO3BYyhuvU195ASoy7YINRwY/W7YTySDIu0by8RfyUyjxKqbN

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sagehen  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:15:03am

re: #210 Dread Pirate Ron

Quadrophenia is better than Tommy. Change my mind.

/spellcheck does not know Quadrophenia.

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is better than both of them.

The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (New Stereo Mix)

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:19:22am

re: #213 ericblair

We’re all Eeyores now.

I think that would make a a great title for a song by Weird Al.

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Alephnaught  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:19:35am

re: #210 Dread Pirate Ron

Quadrophenia is better than Tommy. Change my mind.

/spellcheck does not know Quadrophenia.

Ah, but is it better than Who’s Next? (Ducks…)

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Mike Lamb  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:25:27am

re: #186 ckkatz

As alway, ymmv. And you have shown yourself to be an astute observer. Further, far be it for me to defend Ari Melber.

However, his argument is that in Pa Biden is up 7.1 but Clinton was up 8.4 at this same point in the 2016. In Wisconsin Biden is up 5.5 but Clinton was up 6.7. In Michigan the numbers are Biden 6.7 but Clinton 10.7.

That said, one of the failings of the 2016 polls was in the determination of “Likely Voter”. In particular, the polls significantly underestimated “Likely Republican Voters”.

Maybe it means nothing, maybe it means everything. What it means to me is that this thing is not in the bag at this point.

edit: We got typos - Iin to in, Wisconsn to Wisconsin, zapped a superfluous ‘campaign’.

Regardless of current gaps, I haven’t seen anyone suggest that Biden is in a worse position. Just the opposite actually. There are basically no undecideds at this point.

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NetworkKed  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:28:05am

re: #223 sagehen

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is better than both of them.

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Genesis (all versions!) was the first band I truly learned to love. But Lamb spends too much time wandering around in the dregs of its cleverness - honestly it would be better as a single album.

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b.d. (Enough!)  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:34:05am

Good morning Lizards.

Some good news, Trump didn’t kill this guy yet.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:35:45am

Mental Health Day was yesterday, but still.

Remember that Eeyore never got yelled at and was never left behind, or forgotten, by his friends.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:36:19am

re: #214 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Meh. Determinism is sophistry.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:41:57am

Christie’s been released.

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William Lewis  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:53:34am

re: #210 Dread Pirate Ron

Quadrophenia is better than Tommy. Change my mind.

/spellcheck does not know Quadrophenia.

Truth. However, Who’s Next remains their finest moment.

(have a soft spot for Who Are You but that’s a different game. )

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:55:14am

re: #226 Mike Lamb

Regardless of current gaps, I haven’t seen anyone suggest that Biden is in a worse position. Just the opposite actually. There are basically no undecideds at this point.

From today’s electoral-vote.com

At the moment, if state polls are just as wrong as they were in 2016, then…Joe Biden wins, 319 EVs to 219.

And

could 2016 repeat itself? Mathematically, it is not conceivable under current conditions. That means that for Trump to score a surprise upset, he’ll need at least one of these three things to happen: (1) significant movement in the numbers, (2) large and systematic polling errors, or (3) shenanigans. Numbers one and two are highly improbable, which means the President is really putting all his chips on #3.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 10, 2020 • 6:56:37am
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 10, 2020 • 7:13:45am

re: #234 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

She’ll be hired by Fox as an “immigration expert” the day after the election.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2020 • 7:23:19am

BBC reports that N Korea did hold some kind of parade with ICBMs, maybe.

North Korea holds military parade with missiles
bbc.com

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Dave In Austin  Oct 10, 2020 • 7:25:58am

This is what we all need.

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A Cranky One  Oct 10, 2020 • 7:38:22am

🤣🤣🤣🤣
NotoriousGG on Twitter: “@RexChapman TikTok does it again

“

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ericblair  Oct 10, 2020 • 7:48:52am

re: #226 Mike Lamb

Regardless of current gaps, I haven’t seen anyone suggest that Biden is in a worse position. Just the opposite actually. There are basically no undecideds at this point.

This stuff has been circulating around the intertubes specifically now, because the Access Hollywood tape dropped on 7 Oct 16. So, four years ago this time was when we had the polls right after “grab them by the pussy” and before the Wikileaks shit really started to get traction and then Comey stuck the dagger in. Also, with far more undecideds and third party leaners. Plus, the big October surprises this year were supposed to be Burisma and the Durham report, not Trump’s taxes and the idiot getting coronavirus.

I don’t like the whole “we don’t have it in the bag!” spin with this, because nobody is acting like we have it in the bag. Everyone on the Dem side is completely paranoid about Republicans stealing the election and don’t have to be warned off of overconfidence. If anything, it’s just hopelessness it’s encouraging. 2020 isn’t 2016, go out there and vote and get all the assholes out of office.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 10, 2020 • 7:55:52am

re: #229 Sherlock Hound

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Mental Health Day was yesterday, but still.

Remember that Eeyore never got yelled at and was never left behind, or forgotten, by his friends.

“Oh bother”

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:13:04am
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Belafon  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:13:49am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:14:31am

re: #242 Belafon

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I must be some kind of exhausted, I had to read that three times before I read it correctly.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:15:31am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:16:06am

What’s the outcome of the MJ/Cornyn debate? I saw a little bit at the end but that was it.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:16:34am

re: #217 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:16:57am

re: #210 Dread Pirate Ron

Quadrophenia is better than Tommy. Change my mind.

/spellcheck does not know Quadrophenia.

Tommy is still a document of its time, one of the first Rock Operas and major concept albums.

As far as execution and musicianship goes, Quadrophenia is unparalleled.

Note: our band opened for Peter and the Test Tube babies on a 13-date tour.

Peter of the Test Tube Babies is from Brighton and played as an extra in the movie (the guy with the squirting egg sandwich in the breakfast restaurant scene)

That puts me one heartbeat away from the Who - and Sting as well (who also played in the move).

You may kiss the ring.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:17:58am

re: #223 sagehen

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is better than both of them.

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Selling England by the Pound is still my absolute favorite Genesis album

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:18:14am

re: #219 Dave In Austin

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:19:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:20:02am

re: #225 Alephnaught

Ah, but is it better than Who’s Next? (Ducks…)

If they had not backed out of the Lifehouse project (much of which landed on Who’s Next), it could have been the most monumental and prophetically prescient rock album of all time. Alas, it was just too damn far ahead of its time.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:21:56am

re: #239 ericblair

…Everyone on the Dem side is completely paranoid about Republicans stealing the election and don’t have to be warned off of overconfidence. If anything, it’s just hopelessness it’s encouraging. 2020 isn’t 2016, go out there and vote and get all the assholes out of office.

Paranoid is precisely what we should be. No one will ever say that Nate Silver is pessimistic, and today his model still gives Trump one chance in seven of winning. That would mean the end of American democracy and a grave threat to the entire planet. Those odds are not acceptable.

We need every damn vote, and we don’t need to fall back on our comfortable habit of attacking lefty progressives, and blue-dog Dems, and millenials, and boomers, and every other one of our planes of cleavage. Work scared, campaign scared, donate scared.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:25:28am

re: #252 Decatur Deb

Paranoid is precisely what we should be…. Work scared, campaign scared, donate scared.

We have never known a situation like this, in which a desperate incumbent who knows what awaits him is backed by criminal organizations (the RNC, the Trump organization) and hostile foreign government as well as the full powers of the Executive Branch.

I am concerned that our current electoral system, based on a degree of mutual trust and good will, might not be robust enough to stand up to such industrial-strength criminal fuckery and may well break down under it.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:27:05am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:29:28am

re: #254 Dave In Austin

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Dude looks like Melady

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:29:48am

This should drive Donnie19 insane.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:31:09am

re: #256 Dr. Matt

This should drive Donnie19 insane.

He likes GOP Senators who don’t die…

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A Mom Anon  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:37:04am

OK kids, get ready for the next round o’ bullshit…

One of the assholes involved in the plot to kill (and they had planned on beheading her)the governor of MI, had an anarchist flag and stated he hated Trump on a video, so that means these weren’t “militia” wannabees, they were Anarchists. Where did this gem come from? Red State. This is beginning to spread around Facebook. I’m sure it will be the new scandal soon.

redstate.com

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:37:18am

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Dr. Matt  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:40:29am

re: #258 A Mom Anon

Fox was spewing the anarchists line all week.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:42:06am

re: #259 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Didn’t come up:

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:42:10am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

BBC reports that N Korea did hold some kind of parade with ICBMs, maybe.

North Korea holds military parade with missiles
bbc.com

Heeeres Mirv!

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Decatur Deb  Oct 10, 2020 • 8:42:38am

re: #259 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Btfsplk

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A Mom Anon  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:05:42am

re: #260 Dr. Matt

Did they show the video too? I cannot watch that nonsense so I don’t know. Living Blue in Georgia has had to remove it out of their Facebook comments a couple of times since last night.

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stpaulbear  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:12:36am

re: #251 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If they had not backed out of the Lifehouse project (much of which landed on Who’s Next), it could have been the most monumental and prophetically prescient rock album of all time. Alas, it was just too damn far ahead of its time.

I kind of look at Lifehouse as Townsend’s Pet Sounds: So hard to translate from his own head to other people that he drove himself nuts. Who’s Next was what happened when Townsend had to rejoin the real world, including his own band. It’s an album full of great Who songs.

My sentimental favorite Who album was their 60’s pop statement, Sell Out. It’s also got “I Can See For Miles” which is as definitive a Who single as they made.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:26:00am

Interesting study from Canada that supports the policy of giving money directly to homeless people to help them escape their dire circumstances. It does appear that they screened their subjects to select who would be more likely to benefit from this action. Anymouse, if you see this, what do you think? The funds disbursed seem too low to provide significant assistance here.

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retired cynic  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:34:43am

This year won’t quit. A woman you could argue was my best friend, has taken care of me since 1978, just died. I don’t know what happened. She was here yesterday, and not feeling good (has a chronic condition that sometimes flares and caused her great pain), so we just had lunch and talked. Texted her last night and she answered promptly. And now her daughter has called.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:36:54am

re: #265 stpaulbear

I kind of look at Lifehouse as Townsend’s Pet Sounds: So hard to translate from his own head to other people that he drove himself nuts. Who’s Next was what happened when Townsend had to rejoin the real world, including his own band. It’s an album full of great Who songs.

My sentimental favorite Who album was their 60’s pop statement, Sell Out. It’s also got “I Can See For Miles” which is as definitive a Who single as they made.

Pete did not have a Wrecking Crew to work with nor did he have the musical background that Brian Wilson had with Pet Sounds. In any case, the story behind Lifehouse is prophetic: teenagers who live in self-contained computer-linked worlds in an ecological and economic wasteland.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:37:16am

re: #182 ckkatz

This is not the usual feel good narrative. Ari Melber may be playing contrarian, but he may also have a point. The election is definitely _not_ in the bag.

Trump’s Crashing In Polls After ‘Hell Week’ - But Biden Trails Clinton’s 2016 Edge | MSNBC

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Ari is banging the gong for Democrats to engage, get out the vote and attack Republicans 24/7 and not give a single fucking inch to Trump and his asskissers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:40:50am

re: #266 Hecuba’s daughter

Interesting study from Canada that supports the policy of giving money directly to homeless people to help them escape their dire circumstances. It does appear that they screened their subjects to select who would be more likely to benefit from this action. Anymouse, if you see this, what do you think? The funds disbursed seem too low to provide significant assistance here.

CDN$7,500 is a lot of money if you’re homeless.

For that kind of money, you can get first/last month rent on an inexpensive apartment, fed, better clothes to search for a job, &c.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:41:27am

Sometimes Yashar Ali is such a scold.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:47:09am

Louie Gohmert making some questionable campaign deductions on his FEC filing.

juanitajean.com (Seventeenth in a series about Louie)

Deductions for Netflix? Two storage units? Hotel in Ft. Meyers, Florida? A non-existent Website?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:49:14am

re: #267 retired cynic

This year won’t quit. A woman you could argue was my best friend, has taken care of me since 1978, just died. I don’t know what happened. She was here yesterday, and not feeling good (has a chronic condition that sometimes flares and caused her great pain), so we just had lunch and talked. Texted her last night and she answered promptly. And now her daughter has called.

Damn…

So sorry for your loss.

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retired cynic  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:50:57am

duplicate

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retired cynic  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:52:09am

re: #273 Eclectic Cyborg

She was 63. No medical care: too poor. Bad heart, diabetes, porphyria (it’s a real thing).

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:52:55am

re: #271 Barefoot Grin

Sometimes Yashar Ali is such a scold.

Especially of late. It’s tiresome, really.

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gwangung  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:56:02am

re: #275 retired cynic

She was 63. No medical care: too poor. Bad heart, diabetes, porphyria (it’s a real thing).

Damn. Damn. Sorry to hear this.

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b_sharp  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:57:20am

re: #270 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Once you have an address you can get continued help with money and programs to improve employment opportunities.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:58:16am

re: #267 retired cynic

[[[retired cynic]]]

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 9:58:26am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:04:35am

Rep. Fortenberry naming a party which doesn’t exist… .

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:19:10am

Fire in this thread:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:21:32am

re: #282 Barefoot Grin

The Department of Justice will ignore the President’s threats against his political opponents, as it has in the past, because prosecutors who take an oath to support and defend the Constitution must uphold the rule of law.

Barr has made it clear that he will obey the President over the Law wherever it serves the President to do so.

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plansbandc  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:23:44am

re: #267 retired cynic

Damn. I am so sorry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:25:17am

re: #275 retired cynic

She was 63. No medical care: too poor. Bad heart, diabetes, porphyria (it’s a real thing).

That is too young…

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:30:39am

re: #275 retired cynic

I’m sorry to hear that.

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John Hughes  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:30:40am

re: #244 Belafon

The rats in the walls.

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John Hughes  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:32:56am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That puts me one heartbeat away from the Who - and Sting as well (who also played in the move).

I was an underaged drinker in a Cornish pub where the bouncer had been at LSE with Mick Jagger.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:35:22am

re: #234 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

She is an ignorant bigot and she just proved me right.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:37:49am

Good Morning. I’m just a couple of issues from finishing my ballot. Where I am really stuck is app based employees, aka Measure 22.

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John Hughes  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:38:21am

re: #256 Dr. Matt

The problem about the McCain hagiography is that the guy was a dick, and, arguably a war criminal.

Of course Trump is worse, so we use every available weapon but don’t forget no republican after my birth (1959) is untainted.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:41:13am

re: #282 Barefoot Grin

Fire in this thread:

It’s noteworthy Rosenstein has the tweet locked so no one can reply to it. Coward.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:44:09am
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A Mom Anon  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:49:28am

re: #267 retired cynic

Well hell, I am so very sorry for your loss. It’s hard to make and keep friends that long , especially in this day and age. You must have done a whole bunch of something right. Big hugs, even though that’s just not close to enough.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 10, 2020 • 10:59:59am

re: #290 Rightwingconspirator

Good Morning. I’m just a couple of issues from finishing my ballot. Where I am really stuck is app based employees, aka Measure 22.

I voted NO on 22 because I have several friends who got stiffed when Uber and Lyft cheated them out of paychecks. Also they are treated as “independent contractors” that let those usurious pricks off the hook for health and insurance benefits and tax withholding. Oh and as “independent contractors” they had to pay the higher self-employment FICA tax.

Voting Yes on 22 allows those greedy prick corporations to continue to stiff employees.

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A Cranky One  Oct 10, 2020 • 11:50:34am


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