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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:07:45am

75k more people died of covid through the summer than officially reported, so the death toll is about 300k now. But never fear, Barrett is coming for your health insurance! About 75,000 more Americans died from COVID-19 pandemic than reported in spring and summer, study finds
news.yahoo.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:10:08am
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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:11:18am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

She has Michelle Bachmann eyes in that photo.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:12:20am

So it’s okay for the Republicans to literally risk peoples lives to put an unqualified person on the Supreme Court less than three weeks before an election but Fuck Democrats for even talking about adding Justices if they win.

Do I have that right?

//

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:14:11am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

So it’s okay for the Republicans to literally risk peoples lives to put an unqualified person on the Supreme Court less than three weeks before an election but Fuck Democrats for even talking about adding Justices if they win.

Do I have that right?

//

Yeah pretty close.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:14:44am

re: #3 Decatur Deb

She has Michelle Bachmann eyes in that photo.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:15:02am

The Fox chyron had a quote from one of the Republican Senators saying that it’s Democrats talking about packing the courts.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:15:51am

The “pro-life” SCOTUS candidate brought her unmasked children to a packed event during a pandemic. This alone should disqualify her.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:17:07am

re: #8 Dr. Matt

The “pro-life” SCOTUS candidate brought her unmasked children to a packed event during a pandemic. This alone should disqualify her.

Naah, the fact that she’s willing to take this nomination at this time is enough to disqualify her.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:17:44am
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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:19:55am

At the end of the last thread, on term limits for supreme court justices, it is not clear that a constitutional amendment is required. The language is ambiguous.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:21:26am

re: #8 Dr. Matt

The “pro-life” SCOTUS candidate brought her unmasked children to a packed event during a pandemic. This alone should disqualify her.

Republicans are willing to sacrifice children on the altar of conservatism for the principle of guns everywhere, why should they care about children when a Supreme Court seat can cement minority rule for years to come?

What’s the sacrifice of a few children for the goal of the religion of conservatism?

I’d pay good money to see a Democrat bring a poster of a child tied up on an altar with Edmund Burke’s name on it.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:23:26am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

So it’s okay for the Republicans to literally risk peoples lives to put an unqualified person on the Supreme Court less than three weeks before an election but Fuck Democrats for even talking about adding Justices if they win.

Do I have that right?

//

The Republicans packed the Court when they reduced it to 8 members in 2016 for a year, then they expanded it back up to 9 for a Republican President.

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:24:20am
Watch Live as the Republican Party Packs the Supreme Court With Yet Another Far Right Extremist

Sorry. I can’t watch it for reasons of mental health.

I did take some advice from the last thread and donated some to NE-2 and CO-3 house races via ActBlue. Instead of donating to any MN candidates I donated to the MN-DFL to use the money where needed. There don’t seem to be any cliff-hangers here although it looks like we’re going to loose a D seat (the D that voted to not impeach Trump).

I realized that you have to be mindful when donating to a candidate on ActBlue because their name may appear under a dozen different funds. My donation to Diane Mitsch Bush shows up on my credit card as a donation to ‘DonateToDems” so I hope I didn’t screw up. Now I know to double check.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:25:16am

re: #11 BlueSpotinAL

At the end of the last thread, on term limits for supreme court justices, it is not clear that a constitutional amendment is required. The language is ambiguous.

Congress should enact a term limit, and include a provision prohibiting the Court from reviewing it.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:25:29am

re: #14 stpaulbear

From a lifelong resident of Colorado’s 3rd district, I thank you.

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nowherenorth2  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:25:49am

Getting tested for covid in 5 minutes….awesome

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:26:24am

re: #14 stpaulbear

From a resident of NE-3, I thank you for the donation to Kara Eastman in NE-2.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:27:25am

re: #15 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Congress should enact a term limit, and include a provision prohibiting the Court from reviewing it.

That would draw a challenge to the clause that Congress can prohibit judicial review.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:29:14am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:29:24am

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That would draw a challenge to the clause that Congress can prohibit judicial review.

True, but its an express constitutional power of Congress.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:30:21am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:30:38am

New high quality Siena polls have Biden +10 in Wi, and +8 in Mi.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:30:48am

Sport shooting news in the Omaha World-Herald:

Dagen Voigtman looks like any other freshman trudging to class at UNO.

Polite and soft-spoken, he wants to be an accountant.

But put him on a trap range, and Voigtman almost overnight has become a rock star.

The 19-year-old from Plattsmouth this summer became the first person to record a perfect score of 400x400 — in other words, 400 of 400 targets hit — while winning the high all-around title at the Grand American World Trapshooting Championships, the Super Bowl of the sport.

(more)

omaha.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:31:18am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:32:36am

re: #22 Patricia Kayden

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:34:06am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:34:20am
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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:35:05am

Making the ghost of Phyllis Schlafly proud.

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:35:08am

re: #16 teleskiguy

re: #18 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thanks. I’ve made quite a few $25 donations to non-MN national candidates. The House and Senate affect everyone. I just hope I didn’t botch it for the CO candidate.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:36:06am

re: #11 BlueSpotinAL

At the end of the last thread, on term limits for supreme court justices, it is not clear that a constitutional amendment is required. The language is ambiguous.

Article 3 Section 1

The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:36:21am

With three weeks to go, barring something completely out of left field, there is little doubt of a Biden victory. This is not a reason for complacency though. Everyone has a duty to vote to send a clear message in defense of democracy, and elect people to help Biden succeed, not hinder him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:36:35am

re: #29 teleskiguy

Marsha Blackburn’s argument is that feminists should support women whose policies block women’s rights.

the spin is that anyone anti-ACB is anti-women, anti-motherhood, anti-family, anti-God and ultimately anti-America

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:36:54am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

I have to turn the sound off when the Republicans start whining and posturing. These fucking hypocrites make me sick.

But then you can’t hear them cough and wheeze.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:40:34am

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Nice!

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:40:54am
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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:41:02am

re: #22 Patricia Kayden

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:42:24am

Cyber Command has sought to disrupt the world’s largest botnet, hoping to reduce its potential impact on the election (Stars & Stripes, more at the link):

In recent weeks, the U.S. military has mounted an operation to temporarily disrupt what is described as the world’s largest botnet — one used also to drop ransomware, which officials say is one of the top threats to the 2020 election.

U.S. Cyber Command’s campaign against the Trickbot botnet, an army of at least 1 million hijacked computers run by Russian-speaking criminals, is not expected to permanently dismantle the network, said four U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s sensitivity. But it is one way to distract them at least for a while as they seek to restore operations.

The effort is part of what Gen. Paul Nakasone, the head of Cyber Command, calls “persistent engagement,” or the imposition of cumulative costs on an adversary by keeping them constantly engaged. And that is a key feature of CyberCom’s activities to help protect the election against foreign threats, officials said.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:43:43am
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mmmirele  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:43:48am

re: #32 NO SMOCKING GUN!

With three weeks to go, barring something completely out of left field, there is little doubt of a Biden victory. This is not a reason for complacency though. Everyone has a duty to vote to send a clear message in defense of democracy, and elect people to help Biden succeed, not hinder him.

I’m having an existential crisis about whether to mail in my ballot or wait until drop boxes open in a week. It’s like it’s the postal service which has been corrupted or the drop boxes…holy crap, can’t Adrian Fontes (Maricopa county recorder) take my ballot by hand?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:44:06am

re: #37 A Mom Anon

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:44:19am

re: #39 teleskiguy

Love thy neighbor? I dunno, sounds a lot like socialism to me.//

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:47:45am

re: #39 teleskiguy

Way to go AOC. :)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:48:52am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:52:39am

Russia says human trials of its coronavirus vaccine have begun in the Middle East (MSN)

Key points of the article:

Russia has announced that human trials of its controversial coronavirus vaccine have begun in the United Arab Emirates (UAE).
The announcement came after Russian President Vladimir Putin held a phone call with the Crown Prince of Abu Dhabi Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan.
Experts question the safety and efficacy of the “Sputnik V” vaccine.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:53:36am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:55:12am

OMG her voice.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:55:47am

From Russia’s own site about the vaccine they are testing:

Post-registration clinical trials involving more than 40,000 people in Russia will be launched in a week starting from August, 24. A number of countries, such as UAE, Saudi Arabia, Philippines and possibly India or Brazil will join the clinical trials of Sputnik V locally. The vaccine has received a registration certificate from the Russian Ministry of Health on August 11 and under emergency rules adopted during the COVID-19 pandemic can be used to vaccinate the population in Russia. Mass production of the vaccine is expected to start in September 2020.

The unique substance of the Sputnik V and method of using it has a patent protection in Russia, obtained by Gamaleya National Research Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology.

I’m convinced.

sputnikvaccine.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:57:16am
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:57:41am

ACB may have won arguments because the opposition couldn’t stand to listen to her speaking voice.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:58:19am

Last night I turned on my old (repower-supplied) PC for the last time. It was huffin’ and puffin’ and I turned it off for the last time and set up my brand new laptop as my primary machine!

It was while I was loading devices on to the docking station that I realized that it did not have a VGA port for my old monitor.

So, I ordered an adapter cable and I’ll plug in that monitor in a couple days.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 10:59:43am

Another conservative who doesn’t understand the Constitution, responding to AOC:

Private enterprise is not protected in the I Amendment, or anywhere in the Constitution.

There’s a reason Republicans have undermined Civics classes for so many decades.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:00:18am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

OMG her voice.

She sounds like a teenager.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:00:51am

re: #49 Charles Johnson

The state GOP allowed the same thing in my state some time ago.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:02:12am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:02:33am

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Here is Philly’s answer to that or at least part of it.
billypenn.com

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b.d. (Enough!)  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:03:58am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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Kavanaugh praised beer more than his kids.

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b.d. (Enough!)  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:04:34am

re: #57 b.d. (Enough!)

Kavanaugh praised beer more than his kids.

“I like beer….My kids? Meh……”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:06:03am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:06:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:06:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:07:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:08:51am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:09:32am

Thread, thirty-four tweets, on the decades-long effort by the GOP and its funders to turn the USA back into a white-supremacist, unregulated capitalistic, Christian nationalist state.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:10:11am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

They think this makes her more likable and warm. Nope. I love my son, adore him. But I would never require him to sit still for all this time and stay quiet.

I also wonder how she and her husband feel about corporal punishment. A lot of right wing conservatives do believe that “spare the rod, spoil the child” is the proper way to raise kids.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:10:25am

re: #50 jaunte

ACB may have won arguments because the opposition couldn’t stand to listen to her speaking voice.

I actually thought, at first, that I was listening to a little girl speak. Then the camera zoomed in on her. Pretty quickly, for me, the gravity and content of her words and the precise articulation with which they were expressed gave her voice great weight that grew through to become massive by the end. I was wowed.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:11:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:12:02am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:13:20am

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

That what she is. A show pony that was nominated by a con-man.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:14:10am

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:14:54am

re: #15 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Congress should enact a term limit, and include a provision prohibiting the Court from reviewing it.

Both the provision prohibiting judicial review and the term limit itself (unless via amendment) would be struck down as unconstitutional. The district court judge that it was before would strike it down. That decision would be upheld by the circuit court of appeal, and then by the Supreme Court - and at both levels of the appellate process they’d be unanimous decisions.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:15:51am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:17:34am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

OMG her voice.

She probably sounds like a female version of Abraham Lincoln. Contrary to movies, he wasn’t a bass. It carried really far, though, and was useful for speaking to crowds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:21:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:22:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:23:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:27:16am
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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:27:34am

As a woman, I have heard more than one man tell me my voice “bothers” them in my lifetime. Unless I speak quietly and softly, and am not heard. God forbid I would show anger or not “watch my tone”. My personal fave is when a guy acts like my voice is hurting his ears, but the men he surrounds himself with can talk like they’re at trying to be heard at a metal concert and it’s no problem. It’s not the sound of her voice that irritates me nearly as much as the content of her speech and what it says about her character.

I make an exception for Ivanka and her fake ass, breathy, affectation that’s supposed to sound both sexy and reassuring. That shit is annoying as fuck. It’s not HER actual speaking voice.

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Acemarilllion  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:29:32am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Even if social distancing was not a thing, this line would be about half the length, but still too long. Note the people who came prepared with portable seating. All the times I have voted in person it was never longer than 20 minutes to cast a vote.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:30:00am

It’s been years since I’ve seen this proverb, but I first saw it on the wall of my high school history classroom and it certainly struck a chord with 15 year-old me. After reading it, I remember being like: “Damn, that’s deep. We have to protect the environment.”

And I still feel that way.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:30:18am

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

Since when can someone who went to a state university not be qualified to be president? I know what it takes to be president.

Reagan was the last president that didn’t go to an Ivy League school. Before him, Carter was a Naval Academy grad, Ford went to Michigan but got an Ivy League JD, Nixon went to Whittier College and Duke for law school, and LBJ went to what is now Texas State University. That’s probably our longest run of non-Ivy League presidents (depending on how you count Ford’s JD).

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:32:00am

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

This goes along with my thoughts regarding gold-hoarders. When first money no longer exists because of some apocalypse, your gold ain’t edible.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:35:22am

re: #82 Colère Tueur de Lapin

This goes along with my thoughts regarding gold-hoarders. When first money no longer exists because of some apocalypse, your gold ain’t edible.

This was one of the arguments I always had with my fellow libertarians when I was much deeper in that movement…

They’d argue against fiat currency and how it’s not backed by anything. And I’d point out that gold is only valuable because we say it is. But really, it’s just a shiny rock that thousands of years ago, we decided was valuable and could be traded for things. It broke a few brains, but usually not enough to get them to realize how dumb it was.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:35:46am

re: #82 Colère Tueur de Lapin

This goes along with my thoughts regarding gold-hoarders. When first money no longer exists because of some apocalypse, your gold ain’t edible.

Which is how the next chapter of Atlas Shrugged goes. The summary goes like this:

The Barons, realizing they don’t know how to farm, set out to buy some food. They take their gold with them, and find a small colony of farmers. After buying some food, on their way back, they are ambushed. Only Galt makes it through, using the banker as a shield after throwing the remaining gold at the gunmen. “It was in my self-interest to survive,” he would state later.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:36:54am

Al Frankin just filleted Rich Lowry on MSNBC

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:37:39am

re: #83 KGxvi

This was one of the arguments I always had with my fellow libertarians when I was much deeper in that movement…

They’d argue against fiat currency and how it’s not backed by anything. And I’d point out that gold is only valuable because we say it is. But really, it’s just a shiny rock that thousands of years ago, we decided was valuable and could be traded for things. It broke a few brains, but usually not enough to get them to realize how dumb it was.

“How much is this gold worth?”
“How many sodas can you buy out of that vending machine with it?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:37:40am

re: #79 Acemarilllion

Even if social distancing was not a thing, this line would be about half the length, but still too long. Note the people who came prepared with portable seating. All the times I have voted in person it was never longer than 20 minutes to cast a vote.

I have friends who warned me not to vote on the first day of early voting because the lines will be way too long. And there isn’t any effort at voter suppression in deep blue Illinois. Early voting usually doesn’t have that many places open. Of course, for this election, they cannot pack you in as is typical — so the lines look much longer than they would be in a non-pandemic year.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:39:47am

re: #86 Belafon

Spot price for gold is: $1921.70 as per Kitco. That is from a few minutes ago.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:40:15am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:40:16am

re: #88 PhillyPretzel

Spot price for gold is: $1921.70 as per Kitco. That is from a few minutes ago.

And the vending machine doesn’t care.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:40:59am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:41:39am

re: #90 Belafon

Of course. Machines do not have feelings.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:42:30am

re: #91 gocart mozart

Does he want a binky to go with his blankie?

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:45:43am

re: #40 mmmirele

I’m having an existential crisis about whether to mail in my ballot or wait until drop boxes open in a week. It’s like it’s the postal service which has been corrupted or the drop boxes…holy crap, can’t Adrian Fontes (Maricopa county recorder) take my ballot by hand?

Is there an election office that you can drop your ballot off at? It might take some time to get there, but it also might put your mind at ease to know it’s at the location it needs to arrive at. I voted early in person at the election office for this reason. I’m also lucky enough to live in an area where I knew I wouldn’t be standing in line for hours.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:47:47am

re: #92 PhillyPretzel

Of course. Machines do not have feelings.

Nor do they have the electronics to convert gold into a monetary value to determine if a soda can be purchased. Its like having a $20 and going to a vending machine that only takes ones.

I like to bring this up when we talk about gold because it really is about the value humans see in it, rather than some intrinsic “natural” value that can be useful.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:48:14am

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

I agree there, but there are places where there are fewer voting machines by design and fewer places to vote too. One of the places close to us is not on the list of places to early vote this time around, after being on the list for at least three General Elections. Looking at the list, it appears the list has gone down by at least three locations. I’m next to Fulton County where Atlanta is, suburbia. It makes zero sense to take early voting locations away unless you want to see longer lines and fewer people. Plus we have a governor and sec of state who approved use of untested voting software just a week or two ago. The good news is that people are fired up to vote, that makes me happy. And at least the rain moved out of here for the most part last night.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:48:16am
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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:49:40am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

What did the next Vice President of the United States say?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:50:15am

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well done Kamala. I like her style.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:50:29am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:50:38am

re: #98 KGxvi

What did the next Vice President of the United States say?

For the twitter video impaired.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:51:28am

re: #71 KGxvi

Both the provision prohibiting judicial review and the term limit itself (unless via amendment) would be struck down as unconstitutional. The district court judge that it was before would strike it down. That decision would be upheld by the circuit court of appeal, and then by the Supreme Court - and at both levels of the appellate process they’d be unanimous decisions.

Hard to argue that something in the Constitution is unconstitutional. The Democrats probably won’t do it anyway, because the media would roast them for it, but would barely peep if the GOP did.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:53:20am

re: #83 KGxvi

This was one of the arguments I always had with my fellow libertarians when I was much deeper in that movement…

They’d argue against fiat currency and how it’s not backed by anything. And I’d point out that gold is only valuable because we say it is. But really, it’s just a shiny rock that thousands of years ago, we decided was valuable and could be traded for things. It broke a few brains, but usually not enough to get them to realize how dumb it was.

The folly of gold is that the quantity is fixed, whereas wealth is not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:53:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:53:53am
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:54:57am

re: #83 KGxvi

This was one of the arguments I always had with my fellow libertarians when I was much deeper in that movement…

They’d argue against fiat currency and how it’s not backed by anything. And I’d point out that gold is only valuable because we say it is. But really, it’s just a shiny rock that thousands of years ago, we decided was valuable and could be traded for things. It broke a few brains, but usually not enough to get them to realize how dumb it was.

While they’ve been waiting decades for us to notice paper money has no intrinsic value, most of us have moved on to electrons. Its an antediluvian mindset.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:55:21am

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

There ya have it… Let Rome Burn.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:55:44am

re: #101 Belafon

For the twitter video impaired.

In the clip, she lambasted the Senate for trying to rush through the Supreme Court nomination in 16 days while the HEROES act to help the nation during the pandemic has been languishing in the Senate for 150 days.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:56:12am

re: #102 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Hard to argue that something in the Constitution is unconstitutional. The Democrats probably won’t do it anyway, because the media would roast them for it, but would barely peep if the GOP did.

Older people in the US political media will remember how Soviet politics was covered in the US press — e.g. an appropriately high level of skepticism applied to official statements, especially when they contradict the reality of official acts.

That’s how they should be covering the GOP. Instead they exhaust the world’s supply of drooling credulity every time the GOP lies about something.

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:57:38am

re: #87 Hecuba’s daughter

I have friends who warned me not to vote on the first day of early voting because the lines will be way too long. And there isn’t any effort at voter suppression in deep blue Illinois. Early voting usually doesn’t have that many places open. Of course, for this election, they cannot pack you in as is typical — so the lines look much longer than they would be in a non-pandemic year.

I voted on the third day for that reason. I showed up at about 2:00 in the afternoon and heard that there had been a long line outside over the lunch hour that had cleared out just before I arrived. I timed my visit well, but I also had the freedom to visit whenever I wanted. Most people don’t have those choices.

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danarchy  Oct 12, 2020 • 11:58:15am

re: #98 KGxvi

What did the next Vice President of the United States say?

Honestly, I don’t get the kaboom. It was a fine statement, but was basically boilerplate democratic talking points about how people are struggling, covid is rampant and the senate should be trying to help people rather than ram a supreme court justice through. Wasn’t much different that anything any of the other dems have said.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:03:32pm

Roberta Died today. RIP

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:06:11pm

You know it pisses me off that ACB is somehow considered a stronger nominee because she’s a mother.

The whole notion that people that have kids are somehow more inherently important than those who don’t is so fucking stupid.

I don’t have kids (infertility sucks) but I shouldn’t be valued any less than a man who does. I may not have kids of my own but I still have children in my life that are important to me and I can still make meaningful contributions to make a better future for society.

And guess what? The fact that I DON’T have kids is actually an advantage when it comes to some of those contributions because it opens up time and resources I wouldn’t otherwise have so I can step up when people that do have kids can’t.

I have no ill will towards anyone who has kids, I only ask for the same in return for those of us who don’t have them.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:06:22pm

re: #111 danarchy

We’re currently in a state of transition that is beyond what we’ve had to do since the Civil War. Not since then have we had elected officials who were so intent on causing so much damage for the sake of their pockets.

I can tell you from first hand interactions on Facebook, that those I know who are Trumpers are not moving from their embrace of that death-nell celebrating idiot. Most think they are defending “God”, the few who are not are just anti-social.

This rot has stewed for a very long time in America. It goes right back to the Civil War and even as far back as the Constitutional convention. Those who think that Iron Age religions are a prescription for how to live life in the 21st century are part of a larger picture of how humans do all that humans can do to avoid reality for the sake of some dubious relief a religious belief can bring.

This is a very old story. The confirmation hearing going on right now is the great grand child of The Great Awakening.

Trump said it himself - Biden is going to “hurt God”. If that isn’t the most obvious declaration of what is happening in contemporary American politics then I don’t know how to come up with a clearer example.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:06:31pm

re: #107 Dave In Austin

This is just insanely irresponsible. It also assumes without evidence to the contrary that people will be careful and practice hand washing and social distancing. JFC. The economy cannot even start a stable recovery til this is under control.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:07:01pm

re: #107 Dave In Austin

There ya have it… Let Rome Burn.
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Their statement also depends on
(1) assuming those who have recovered have lasting immunity that protects them from re-infection, though we do not, as yet, know anything about how long immunity typically lasts
(2) ignoring the long-term effects of the disease on those who survive. We do not know how common these problems are and how long the duration.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:07:46pm

re: #115 A Mom Anon

This is just insanely irresponsible. It also assumes without evidence to the contrary that people will be careful and practice hand washing and social distancing. JFC. The economy cannot even start a stable recovery til this is under control.

This is the direction. They have fouled this thing up so bad. Now we do Sweden.

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PrairieQueen  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:10:24pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Large litters are a badge of honor among those that can afford them, as is hardline Christian adoption. It’s pro life and pro money, together. It’s poor folk that get beaten about the head and neck for having children, though birth control, sex ed, even abortion, are made less accessible for those that are struggling. That’s followed up by blaming anyone that relies on government services.

It’s classist, sexist, and regressive as fuck. GOP wear it like a merit badge.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:10:42pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

Rest In Peace Roberta.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:12:28pm

re: #117 Dave In Austin

This is the direction. They have fouled this thing up so bad. Now we do Sweden.

We have long passed Sweden in deaths per million: 663 for us, 583 for them.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:12:31pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

Roberta Died today. RIP

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She was born the same year as my Nana. Amazing to think about the changes both witnessed.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:14:03pm

re: #113 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m a mom and I totally agree. It’s not some superpower that makes you better at anything, except maybe multitasking. Maybe. Not having kids gives an advantage in many ways too, getting an education, being more upwardly mobile, not having to uproot kids to take a job somewhere new, etc. ACB is using the kids as a photo op and a shield. If you say a word about this you’re anti mom and family and American 🇺🇸 flag waving values. It’s all bullshit.

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retired cynic  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:14:13pm

re: #113 Eclectic Cyborg

… I don’t have kids (infertility sucks) but I shouldn’t be valued any less than a man who does. I may not have kids of my own but I still have children in my life that are important to me and I can still make meaningful contributions to make a better future for society. …

Amen.

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PrairieQueen  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:16:09pm

re: #114 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Trump said it himself - Biden is going to “hurt God”. If that isn’t the most obvious declaration of what is happening in contemporary American politics then I don’t know how to come up with a clearer example.

Uh huh. Just like prayers magically change the outcome of anything, Biden can make up his mind to hurt God.

God: “Ouch. That left a mark, Joe.”

It is impossible to take people who think like this seriously.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:16:35pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

Roberta Died today. RIP

littlegreenfootballs.com
How odd that I mentioned her just yesterday, on what turned out to be the last full day of her life. At 108, everyone knew it could happen any time. What a wonderful life she led. Rest in Peace

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:17:17pm

re: #40 mmmirele

I’m having an existential crisis about whether to mail in my ballot or wait until drop boxes open in a week. It’s like it’s the postal service which has been corrupted or the drop boxes…holy crap, can’t Adrian Fontes (Maricopa county recorder) take my ballot by hand?

You should be able to check with the county or state elections people for the addresses of real dropboxes. I’d be doing it myself if the dropbox I use hadn’t been there for years.

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:20:58pm

re: #107 Dave In Austin

There ya have it… Let Rome Burn.
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What a good thing those without higher risks don’t ever associate with those who are more vulnerable. And that only young people with strong immune systems hang around schools.
We’re on our way back!
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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:22:21pm

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

littlegreenfootballs.com
How odd that I mentioned her just yesterday, on what turned out to be the last full day of her life. At 108, everyone knew it could happen any time. What a wonderful life she led. Rest in Peace

Could you please write some posts about how old other GOP notables are?

Chuck Grassley would be a great start right now, for instance!

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:22:50pm

re: #126 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

And track your ballot. We took ours to a location listed on the county board of elections drop box list. It was about 4 days from drop off approval, and super simple to track.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:25:15pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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They’re going to use this to disqualify votes. Count on it.

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Jay C  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:28:04pm

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

littlegreenfootballs.com
How odd that I mentioned her just yesterday, on what turned out to be the last full day of her life. At 108, everyone knew it could happen any time. What a wonderful life she led. Rest in Peace

Was it your post that contained the fascinating factoid that Roberta McCain’s birthdate (2/7/1912) was closer in time to Thomas Jefferson’s Administration than to our own day (by some years)!

RIP Roberta.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:29:57pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:30:26pm

re: #128 i(m)p(each)sos

Could you please write some posts about how old other GOP notables are?

Chuck Grassley would be a great start right now, for instance!

Ok.
FDR had been in office 5 months and the New Deal was just taking shape when Chuck Grassley was born (September 17, 1933).
Chuck has been kicking and screaming about it ever since.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:31:18pm

re: #131 Jay C

Was it your post that contained the fascinating factoid that Roberta McCain’s birthdate (2/7/1912) was closer in time to Thomas Jefferson’s Administration than to our own day (by some years)!

RIP Roberta.

That was it.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:32:17pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

I’m not sure people of color would agree with that….dear god, what a bunch of whiny spoiled brats. I was a preschool teacher for a couple of years and never heard as much whining as this bunch of rich pampered assholes.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:33:01pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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“I’m pretty sure the n-word is much worse. And there are words for women that are worse. You can stop being a racist, Senator.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:33:36pm
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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:35:25pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA): “It hurts to be called a racist. I think it’s one of the worst things you can callBE AS an American.”

Fixed it for you, Mr. Kennedy. Here’s an idea—if you don’t want to be called a racist, don’t BE a fucking racist. Problem solved.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:35:41pm

re: #91 gocart mozart

This is a brilliant spoof.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:35:52pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

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Says the guy whose state Republican party tried to get David Duke elected as Governor - and almost succeeded.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:35:52pm

re: #95 Belafon

Nor do they have the electronics to convert gold into a monetary value to determine if a soda can be purchased. Its like having a $20 and going to a vending machine that only takes ones.

I like to bring this up when we talk about gold because it really is about the value humans see in it, rather than some intrinsic “natural” value that can be useful.

I have to run, but I just wanted to mention that gold was usable as currency because it’s pretty, shiny, and had no other use (like gemstones). Well, except for gold teeth.

Of course, now that we’ve reached the Electronic Age, it suddenly has a use, which makes it even worse as a currency than it was before.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:36:19pm
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:36:54pm

re: #137 Dread Pirate Ron

I wish reporters would drop the word “may”.

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John Hughes  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:37:03pm

re: #117 Dave In Austin

This is the direction. They have fouled this thing up so bad. Now we do Sweden.

No you don’t.

The thing about Sweden is that they have many, many restrictions in place — loads of social distancing. Mostly “voluntary” but backed by huge social pressure.

The US doesn’t have that kind of society.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:37:42pm

Teddy had FHO surgery on Friday. All went well. The only hiccup was about 2 hours after I dropped him off, the surgeon called to tell me that his hip had popped back into place. Since it seemed to pop in and out easily, I went ahead with the surgery (then spent the rest of the day worrying if I made the right call). After the surgery, the surgeon told me his hip was really loose and would have probably popped out on the way home if I had decided not to do the surgery and take him home.

When I picked him up on Saturday, he was a little more spry than I thought he would be. I think he was just glad to see me. The vet tech told me when he wanted to move he could really go but if he didn’t he could be really stubborn. That’s my Teddy a stubborn old cuss.

Let the healing and rehab begin!!

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:38:17pm

re: #78 A Mom Anon

As a woman, I have heard more than one man tell me my voice “bothers” them in my lifetime. Unless I speak quietly and softly, and am not heard. God forbid I would show anger or not “watch my tone”. My personal fave is when a guy acts like my voice is hurting his ears, but the men he surrounds himself with can talk like they’re at trying to be heard at a metal concert and it’s no problem. It’s not the sound of her voice that irritates me nearly as much as the content of her speech and what it says about her character.

I make an exception for Ivanka and her fake ass, breathy, affectation that’s supposed to sound both sexy and reassuring. That shit is annoying as fuck. It’s not HER actual speaking voice.

Do you know who has the most annoying, irritating voice in the world, that sounds worse than scratching on a blackboard or a bunch of cats fighting? Fuckface Von Clownstick.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:38:58pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:39:11pm

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

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It’s been years since I’ve seen this proverb, but I first saw it on the wall of my high school history classroom and it certainly struck a chord with 15 year-old me. After reading it, I remember being like: “Damn, that’s deep. We have to protect the environment.”

And I still feel that way.

But guess what! By the time that happens, money will BE actual food!

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John Hughes  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:39:17pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

One of the easiest ways to avoid being called a racist is to not be a racist.

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:40:13pm

re: #145 Teddy’s Person ✌

Teddy had FHO surgery on Friday. All went well. The only hiccup was about 2 hours after I dropped him off, the surgeon called to tell me that his hip had popped back into place. Since it seemed to pop in and out easily, I went ahead with the surgery (then spent the rest of the day worrying if I made the right call). After the surgery, the surgeon told me his hip was really loose and would have probably popped out on the way home if I had decided not to do the surgery and take him home.

When I picked him up on Saturday, he was a little more spry than I thought he would be. I think he was just glad to see me. The vet tech told me when he wanted to move he could really go but if he didn’t he could be really stubborn. That’s my Teddy a stubborn old cuss.

Let the healing and rehab begin!!

Healing, rehab and spoilage. He deserves it.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:41:59pm

re: #141 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

I have to run, but I just wanted to mention that gold was usable as currency because it’s pretty, shiny, and had no other use (like gemstones). Well, except for gold teeth.

Of course, now that we’ve reached the Electronic Age, it suddenly has a use, which makes it even worse as a currency than it was before.

Gold fulminate (40% gold by mass iirc) was the first explosive to be devised after black gunpowder (17th century). It was much more powerful than black powder, too, but had some rather obvious drawbacks.

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Jay C  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:54:47pm

re: #151 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Gold fulminate (40% gold by mass iirc) was the first explosive to be devised after black gunpowder (17th century). It was much more powerful than black powder, too, but had some rather obvious drawbacks.

Not least, I’m sure, its deleterious effects on military budgets.

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mmmirele  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:56:52pm

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

Their statement also depends on
(1) assuming those who have recovered have lasting immunity that protects them from re-infection, though we do not, as yet, know anything about how long immunity typically lasts
(2) ignoring the long-term effects of the disease on those who survive. We do not know how common these problems are and how long the duration.

A friend of mine took her mother to get tested for COVID-19 just now. Thing is, they all had COVID-19 early. If mom has it again, that’s going to be ugly.

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John Hughes  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:57:21pm

re: #151 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Per Wikipedia:

Generally, it is best to avoid accidentally creating this substance by mixing gold chloride or hydroxide salts with ammonia gas or ammonium salts, as it is prone to explosion with even the slightest touch

Sounds fun.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2020 • 12:59:15pm

re: #141 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

I have to run, but I just wanted to mention that gold was usable as currency because it’s pretty, shiny, and had no other use (like gemstones). Well, except for gold teeth.

Of course, now that we’ve reached the Electronic Age, it suddenly has a use, which makes it even worse as a currency than it was before.

You need a currency where the supply reflects the economic activity of the society, and that’s definitely not true of precious metals. If you double the size of your economy, what do you do with a fixed supply of gold? In a modern society, where most money is “virtual” anyway, I wonder how gold would work.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:00:47pm
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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:02:00pm

re: #147 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I had some wingnut cult member tell me yesterday that Trump is making it so premiums are 99 dollars a month! You get to keep your doctor! It will cover everything! Asked for proof and why he hasn’t done this in the 4 years he’s had the chance to and he got quiet. Chirp…chirp…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:02:26pm

re: #154 John Hughes

Per Wikipedia:

Sounds fun.

Too bad the stuff is so sensitive. Otherwise it would be just the thing for Soros/Antifa super-assassins, along with silver bullets.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:02:47pm

David Gorski has a few (LOL) words to say about the not so Great Barrington Declaration.

sciencebasedmedicine.org

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:02:51pm

re: #155 Hecuba’s daughter

You need a currency where the supply reflects the economic activity of the society, and that’s definitely not true of precious metals. If you double the size of your economy, what do you do with a fixed supply of gold? In a modern society, where most money is “virtual” anyway, I wonder how gold would work.

Apparently poorly. I haven’t read it, but a friend read the book “Golden Fetters” which lays out the theory that the gold standard screwed up international finance in the early part of the 20th century and lead to the Great Depression precisely because there is a more or less fixed amount of gold and that constrains economic growth.
Seems reasonable to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:02:57pm

re: #141 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

I have to run, but I just wanted to mention that gold was usable as currency because it’s pretty, shiny, and had no other use (like gemstones). Well, except for gold teeth.

Of course, now that we’ve reached the Electronic Age, it suddenly has a use, which makes it even worse as a currency than it was before.

When I to a new apartment in NW Moscow, I would get out at the Tushinskaya station where stranbe fellows kept approaching me to ask if I had any “pieces”…I had no idea what that was about.

I asked and it turns out it was where people traded in of old electronic parts which these fellows would scrape off for the gold on them.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:04:18pm

re: #155 Hecuba’s daughter

You need a currency where the supply reflects the economic activity of the society, and that’s definitely not true of precious metals. If you double the size of your economy, what do you do with a fixed supply of gold? In a modern society, where most money is “virtual” anyway, I wonder how gold would work.

If we pegged dollars to gold, say $1 was equal to 1 oz of gold, then inflation and deflation would be wild because people buying and selling gold on the market would determine the value of a dollar. Moreover, if a foreign country (or alliance of countries) decided they wanted to fuck with us, they could sell their gold reserves and crash the dollar. Or, if a new gold vein was discovered in some area and extracted, that could effect the value of the dollar. Lastly, it sets up the potential for a run on the banks (a la the start of the depression) where people go to banks demanding the actual gold for their dollars on account.

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:12:27pm

I’ve got a book on request at the library-Money: the true history of a made up thing. There’s an NPR interview with the author here. I thought of it because he goes into the history of “goldsmith bankers” and the receipts they issued for gold deposits being “money adjacent” as people began to trade the receipts rather than the actual gold they represented.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:12:49pm

re: #162 KGxvi

If we pegged dollars to gold, say $1 was equal to 1 oz of gold, then inflation and deflation would be wild because people buying and selling gold on the market would determine the value of a dollar. Moreover, if a foreign country (or alliance of countries) decided they wanted to fuck with us, they could sell their gold reserves and crash the dollar. Or, if a new gold vein was discovered in some area and extracted, that could effect the value of the dollar. Lastly, it sets up the potential for a run on the banks (a la the start of the depression) where people go to banks demanding the actual gold for their dollars on account.

We do not teach in schools what money really is.

Most people just equate money with currency, but the two are not the same. But the thought of it being a tangible substance with a value of its own somehow makes them think it is safer and less easily manipulated when that is far from the case.

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:14:26pm

re: #155 Hecuba’s daughter

You need a currency where the supply reflects the economic activity of the society, and that’s definitely not true of precious metals. If you double the size of your economy, what do you do with a fixed supply of gold? In a modern society, where most money is “virtual” anyway, I wonder how gold would work.

Well, if the morons ever figure out a way to ram Judy Shelton through to the Fed, we’ll find out.

The case against Ms. Shelton is straightforward: A monetary-policy gadfly who has long advocated a return to the discredited, liquidity-destroying gold standard, Ms. Shelton has spent her career mostly in the politicized realms of GOP campaigns, think tanks and op-ed pages. She lacks the substantial experience in academic economics, government service or the banking sector usually required of Fed governors.

washingtonpost.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:14:36pm

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We do not teach in schools what money really is.

Most people just equate money with currency, but the two are not the same. But the thought of it being a tangible substance with a value of its own somehow makes them think it is safer and less easily manipulated when that is far from the case.

Just ask Zimbabwe about how worthless money can get.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:18:46pm

re: #163 calochortus

It seems kind of dumb to base huge economies on such a finite resource. And I know zero about anything financial beyond managing a family budget and checking account. I’ve never got the “bring back the gold standard!” thing. Stocks confuse me too. I get that they are supposed to help companies raise capital for expenses, but beyond that it just seems like a way to hoard money with very little finding it’s way to expenses it takes to run things. At some point something has to give and the system breaks down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:19:04pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

Just ask Zimbabwe about how worthless money can get.

I recall visiting a bar in Germany that showed the prices for a glass of cider during the post-WW1 inflation, from 60 Pfennigs in 1921 up to 4 billion Reichsmarks in 1023

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jeffreyw  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:19:37pm

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:20:23pm

re: #163 calochortus

I’ve got a book on request at the library-Money: the true history of a made up thing. There’s an NPR interview with the author here. I thought of it because he goes into the history of “goldsmith bankers” and the receipts they issued for gold deposits being “money adjacent” as people began to trade the receipts rather than the actual gold they represented.

Banking pretty much starts from that since being able to transport credit without having to haul heavy amounts of money around is pretty important. And that leads to families doing it since there is trust that a letter from Brother A to Brother B saying to give person X (or the bearer) a certain amount of money does make things a lot more convenient for merchants and others.*

* - Which to a degree is what sucked Neal Stephenson into writing a set of novels. “The Baroque Cycle” is a pretty interesting read on an interesting time period when a lot was going on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:22:12pm

re: #163 calochortus

I’ve got a book on request at the library-Money: the true history of a made up thing. There” an NPR interview with the author here. I thought of it because he goes into the history of “goldsmith bankers” and the receipts they issued for gold deposits being “money adjacent” as people began to trade the receipts rather than the actual gold they represented.

Money is a promise: a promise that you will receive a certain value in goods and services at some future point in time by presenting a piece of paper which, on its own, has no intrinsic value.

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:26:30pm

re: #167 A Mom Anon

It seems kind of dumb to base huge economies on such a finite resource. And I know zero about anything financial beyond managing a family budget and checking account. I’ve never got the “bring back the gold standard!” thing. Stocks confuse me too. I get that they are supposed to help companies raise capital for expenses, but beyond that it just seems like a way to hoard money with very little finding it’s way to expenses it takes to run things. At some point something has to give and the system breaks down.

Stocks are just buying small parts of larger companies. The companies raise money rather than just by borrowing and investors participate in the profits of the company without liability beyond losing their original investment if things go bad.
The modern stock market is more complicated because people constantly figure out how to extract money from any working system, but for the “little guy” buying something like an index fund (one that buys a large group of stocks spread across industries to lower the risk) without excessive fees is a good hedge against inflation.

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calochortus  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:28:59pm

Anyhoo, I need to go slap a coat of paint on a length of siding on which I filled some holes. Catch everyone later.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:36:21pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:37:46pm

re: #174 Dread Pirate Ron

Interesting choice of words. People are literally dead after your rallies.

He is truly that tone-deaf and has nobody to edit him or shut him down…

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:40:07pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:43:41pm

Interesting observation surveying campaign signs on the drive to and from the market.

Biden/Harris signs outnumbering Trump/Pence signs by at least 10:1.

A few houses with signs for some of the GOP local candidates, but not displaying a Trump sign with them.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:47:08pm
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:50:34pm

re: #177 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Same here. I see more Biden Harris signs than DT but of course Philly is mostly D.

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A Cranky One  Oct 12, 2020 • 1:53:21pm

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Jack Burton  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:12:24pm

re: #141 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Aside from the fact that gold as a currency would be just as much “fiat” as current money, the fact is that based on the dollar value of an ounce of gold right now, there literally is not enough gold in the world to use it to back currency. The GDP of the US alone, let alone the whole world, exceeds the amount of gold known to be in existence. In order to use it we would have to catastrophically shrink the economy or we would have to… “artificially” increase the value of gold… by… um what’s the word… “FIAT”.

The whole idea is just mindbogglingly stupid.

And for all the ranting about fiat currency these clowns do, so many of them support the biggest wishful think scam of fiat currency ever invented: cryptocurrency.

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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:15:29pm

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:16:24pm

And here you have it:
No mask
Bright red/orange complexion
Hideous blue suit
Giant bandage on his hand (still getting infusions are ya, yam?)
Giant, bloated body (I guess having the virus didn’t hurt his appetite)
Thrilled looking Secret Service guys.

Just another day in paradise…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:16:29pm

re: #182 BigPapa

neFiUp8oUYW02lL8CfV63C8+2st1KcZiquPRk77jJF6ohyKFi+NNZuNJngU6Kcdqms2Rfqmb3YhRgJFFi938TTARIhlw2t8E5EaJI09S0BeOyutEkyGz4eN3vqUHEUDrF11dgbGTSumTsD4ZBcCzY4kIavS2kAs2CDK65ikYaUs=

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b_sharp  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:21:31pm

re: #112 Dave In Austin

Roberta Died today. RIP

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And….
2020 just keeps trucking, being itself.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:21:45pm

re: #183 BeachDem

And here you have it:
No mask
Bright red/orange complexion
Hideous blue suit
Giant bandage on his hand (still getting infusions are ya, yam?)
Giant, bloated body (I guess having the virus didn’t hurt his appetite)
Thrilled looking Secret Service guys.

Just another day in paradise…

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We really need him to come do a rally for Tuberville,. Something inspiring, with the two of them on stage shouting and singing the Auburn fight song.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:24:51pm

re: #183 BeachDem

And here you have it:
No mask
Bright red/orange complexion
Hideous blue suit
Giant bandage on his hand (still getting infusions are ya, yam?)
Giant, bloated body (I guess having the virus didn’t hurt his appetite)
Thrilled looking Secret Service guys.

Just another day in paradise…

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Unless something dropped today, he still hasn’t said when his last negative test was. Which, of course, means he is still testing positive. This is all truly fucking insane.

Also, a side effect of dexamethasone is weight gain/bloating.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:30:45pm

re: #158 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Too bad the stuff is so sensitive. Otherwise it would be just the thing for Soros/Antifa super-assassins, along with silver bullets soup cans.

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:33:41pm
A new SurveyUSA poll in North Carolina finds Cal Cunningham (D) leading Sen. Thom Tillis (R) in the U.S. Senate race by 10 points, 49% to 39%.

Cunningham was up by seven points in the September poll.

the ‘scandal’ hasnt mattered at all

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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:37:55pm

Just realized it’s Columbus Day.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:43:02pm

re: #189 dangerman

the ‘scandal’ hasnt mattered at all

So wait… when Hugh Hewitt breathlessly told Tuck Choad about a “Cunningham collapse” yesterday on Press the Meat… he was being (gasp) less than honest?

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:44:28pm

re: #191 i(m)p(each)sos

So wait… when Hugh Hewitt breathlessly told Tuck Choad about a “Cunningham collapse” yesterday on Press the Meat… he was being (gasp) less than honest?

Maybe Cunningham Collapses subtract a negative.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:45:35pm

re: #183 BeachDem

That umbrella makes him look so tiny.

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Jack Burton  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:46:08pm

re: #185 b_sharp

And….
2020 just keeps trucking, being itself.

Well she was 108 years old. I think that has way more to do with it than The Year of Hell.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:47:05pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:51:40pm

Kansas Dorothy…….

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:51:51pm

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:53:40pm

re: #197 GlutenFreeJesus

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They go looking for hummus but kidnap a store employee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:56:58pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:57:11pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

Bidens media team is really knocking it out of the park.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:58:55pm

re: #200 Eclectic Cyborg

Bidens media team is really knocking it out of the park.

Remember when people were worried they would hold back?

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2020 • 2:59:48pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

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excellent
no effing quarter

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dangerman  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:02:18pm
Eric Trump has canceled a Michigan based campaign event scheduled to take place Tuesday at Huron Valley Guns after one of its former employees was linked to the domestic terror plot against the state’s governor, WDIV reports.

it’s kind of obvious: if that story hadn’t broken, he’d be there with bells on

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:03:19pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

Teleskiguy, I sent Diane Mitsch Bush’s campaign an email today asking about whether they could tell me that the donation I made today was valid (I thought that maybe I got scammed by a false ActBlue site). The campaign wrote back to me within two hours telling me that they had indeed received the donation, sent me a copy of the receipt and thanked me for the contribution. Based on my previous experience whit this kind of thing, I wasn’t even expecting to hear back from them. Good candidate!

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Dave In Austin  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:03:24pm

🤔🤔🤔

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:03:31pm

re: #190 Teddy’s Person ✌

Happy Hispanic Immigration day to you, too

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:03:35pm

so, we got a mailer Saturday from a group called Commonwealth Educational Opportunities PAC pushing “educational choice”.
Funny part is a photo of trump pointing at a photo of Ky Dist 99 State Rep Richard White, yelling “You’re Fired!”.

White is a Republican.

They are starting to eat their own, and I am so here for it.

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:07:25pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

That umbrella makes him look so tiny.

To make him look tiny, the umbrella would have to be the size of the Goodyear blimp.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:12:27pm

I’ll celebrate this great Italian-American today instead of You Know Who

Chef Boyardee 1953 Commercial

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:13:05pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

I LOL’ed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:14:08pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:14:33pm
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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:18:17pm

re: #212 jaunte

that sound you just heard is every Texas Republican office holder simultaneously shitting bricks… probably enough for Trump to build his wall

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:21:44pm

re: #205 Dave In Austin

🤔🤔🤔

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I don’t care, Do you?

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:21:45pm
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ckkatz  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:22:20pm

re: #40 mmmirele

I’m having an existential crisis about whether to mail in my ballot or wait until drop boxes open in a week. It’s like it’s the postal service which has been corrupted or the drop boxes…holy crap, can’t Adrian Fontes (Maricopa county recorder) take my ballot by hand?

One option I looked at while deciding about voting by mail-in was dropping the ballot off at the specific post office that services the board of elections. A second option was sending it certified mail because then it is tracked individually. (Its a little over $4 iirc.)

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cat-tikvah  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:22:33pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:24:44pm

Who’s Next? DeSantis.

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mmmirele  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:25:06pm

Well, here’s a funny story. Two Stanford professors, Robert B. Wilson and Paul Milgrom, won the Nobel Prize in Economics for auction theory (apparently they were the guys who came up with the airwaves auction a couple of decades back). Anyway, the Nobel committee could not reach Milgrom, so they asked Wilson if he’d go across the street and knock on his door. Here’s the result.

Wilson is 83 and Milgrom is 72, neither of them spring chickens. I’m not sure how I would have reacted if someone rang my doorbell over and over again in the middle of the night. That said, I sleep with my phone on because of my mother.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:25:17pm

re: #212 jaunte

For comparison’s sake… California has added just under 3m new voters since September 2016.

Out of 21.24m registered voters, 9.86m are Democrats, 5.13m are Republicans, and 5.04m are independents (with another 1.2m registered in third parties).

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:26:06pm

re: #215 jaunte

All those jurisdictions that Republicans gerrymandered into Republican seats by splitting blue areas up got a lot bluer.

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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:32:49pm

re: #215 jaunte

238,698 voters with one drop-box. Thanks, governor and state supreme court!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:34:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:35:56pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:36:49pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can we call it a “costume” high school?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:38:23pm

re: #225 jaunte

Can we call it a “costume” high school?

Reform school for rich kids.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:38:31pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:41:32pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But…he learned how to make a neat bed!

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:41:55pm

About time

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:42:26pm
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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:43:36pm

re: #230 jaunte

Baked Alaska? Now there is a name I haven’t heard in many years…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:45:15pm

re: #230 jaunte

Got milk?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:45:46pm

re: #228 Barefoot Grin

But…he learned how to make a neat bed!

didn’t stop him from shitting in it

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:45:54pm

re: #230 jaunte

Also, many frontline workers are from minority and/or immigrant populations.

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ckkatz  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:47:03pm

re: #162 KGxvi

If we pegged dollars to gold, say $1 was equal to 1 oz of gold, then inflation and deflation would be wild because people buying and selling gold on the market would determine the value of a dollar. Moreover, if a foreign country (or alliance of countries) decided they wanted to fuck with us, they could sell their gold reserves and crash the dollar. Or, if a new gold vein was discovered in some area and extracted, that could effect the value of the dollar. Lastly, it sets up the potential for a run on the banks (a la the start of the depression) where people go to banks demanding the actual gold for their dollars on account.

Yup, basically the world pretty was trending towards abandoning the Gold/Silver standard by the early 1900’s due to the negative effects it had on trade. WW1 interrupted this trend. But it resumed after the war. Basically, the precious metal standard systems were far too rigid and limiting to meet the liquidity needed by rapidly changing economy.

en.wikipedia.org

Also, those not already familiar with it, might find “Silver Thursday” interesting.
en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:49:24pm
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Jay C  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:49:52pm

re: #226 The Pie Overlord!

Reform school for rich kids.

Though apparently fairly light on the “reform”.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:49:52pm
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:53:17pm

re: #230 jaunte

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The last time I encountered The Baked Asshole he was harassing people at the Hollywood In-N-Out Burger store. Everyone told him to fuck off.

It was glorious!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:54:57pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let’s look at what the WHO actually SAID:

“Dr. David Nabarro, the World Health Organization’s special envoy on COVID-19, urged world leaders this week to stop “using lockdowns as your primary control method” for blunting a virus surge.

“We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Nabarro told “The Spectator.” Nabarro said lockdowns can only be justified “to buy you time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted. But by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

In other words, lockdowns are a nuclear option (because of how much economic damage results). Also, lockdowns are actually (shocking, I know) NOT FUCKING NECESSARY if you are taking all other reasonable measures to combat the virus. Guess what we are NOT doing in this country right now?

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Mike Lamb  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:55:26pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gonna go out on a limb and bet that Trump is dramatically misrepresenting what the WHO said….

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:56:11pm

re: #205 Dave In Austin

Who?

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BeachDem  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:57:30pm

re: #238 jaunte

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And let us not forget this hideous comment from the always horrible Virgina Foxx (who is favored big time to keep her seat—huge sigh)

“I also would like to point out that there was a bill — the hate crimes bill that’s called the Matthew Shepard bill is named after a very unfortunate incident that happened where a young man was killed, but we know that that young man was killed in the commitment of a robbery. It wasn’t because he was gay. This — the bill was named for him, hate crimes bill was named for him, but it’s really a hoax that that continues to be used as an excuse for passing these bills,” said Foxx.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:57:47pm

This is a real photo from Myanmar showing two volunteers (the dudes in the white suits) escorting Covid patients by boat to a secure facility.

Tell me this doesn’t look dystopic as fuck.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:58:10pm

re: #242 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Who?

First base

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Jack Burton  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:58:32pm

re: #237 Jay C

Though apparently fairly light on the “reform”.

I can sort of see Fred Trump saying this in my head:

“You get a goddamn job before sundown or we’re shipping you off to military school with the goddamn Finkelstein-shit kid!”

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:58:40pm

re: #241 Mike Lamb

Gonna go out on a limb and bet that Trump is dramatically misrepresenting what the WHO said….

From the New York Post:

The World Health Organization has warned leaders against relying on COVID-19 lockdowns to tackle outbreaks — after previously saying countries should be careful how quickly they reopen.

WHO envoy Dr. David Nabarro said such restrictive measures should only be treated as a last resort, the British magazine the Spectator reported in a video interview.

“We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Nabarro said.

“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

So, yeah, Rude Pundit was right… the point was to get us in a position to deal with the pandemic, but that would require actual hard work, and the Orange Idiot has never been about that life.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:58:55pm

re: #245 Eventual Carrion

First base

But what’s on second?

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:59:33pm
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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 3:59:53pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

But what’s on second?

I don’t know…

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:00:03pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

That is it is on 3rd. And we know the shortstop is I don’t give a da**.

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b.d. (Enough!)  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:00:18pm

re: #231 KGxvi

Baked Alaska? Now there is a name I haven’t heard in many years…

i thought he was banned from youtube?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:00:20pm

re: #249 jaunte

Like handing out smallpox blankets to the simple savages?
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Jack Burton  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:01:22pm

re: #243 BeachDem

Sure….

because all muggings or robberies end in kidnapping, torture, and murder. This is like saying the COVID fatality was AKSCHULLY because they had diabetes.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:01:26pm

re: #251 PhillyPretzel

That is it is on 3rd. And we know the shortstop is I don’t give a da**.

I don’t know is on third… what is the name of the guy on second, and who is on first!

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ckkatz  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:03:31pm

re: #230 jaunte

Last I had heard that grifter was back living in his mom’s basement.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:03:44pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

But what’s on second?

I don’t know

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:03:49pm

re: #255 KGxvi

Bud Abbott and Lou Costello “Who is on First?”
en.wikipedia.org

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:04:26pm
i thought he was banned from youtube?

Nope. But I do love happy endings!

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Jay C  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:04:33pm

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

But what’s on second?

Yes.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:09:03pm

re: #258 PhillyPretzel

Bud Abbott and Lou Costello “Who is on First?”
en.wikipedia.org

Still one of the best routines there is.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:12:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:13:46pm

re: #205 Dave In Austin

🤔🤔🤔

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time to trade-in for a newer model anyway

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:14:13pm

re: #262 jaunte

All those people packed in there. It’s like a fucking petri dish.

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:14:32pm

re: #262 jaunte

The white supremacist police officer neighbor of mine has that flag and a decal of it along with many other lovely things on his car.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:15:29pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:15:34pm

re: #265 plansbandc

I have a police neighbor too. He flies one off his front gate.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:16:19pm

Gang colors.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:16:45pm

re: #266 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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Just another ignorant christian who embraces the selfishness of Ayn Rand!

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:17:37pm

re: #262 jaunte

I find it really interesting that Trump’s version of campaigning at this point is a modern day equivalent to a whistle stop tour… fly in, talk for however long, and fly out.

The difference is in the old days, you’d do multiple speeches a day on the whistle stop tour… Trump barely has the stamina to do a half hour at a time anymore.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:17:38pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:18:03pm

re: #245 Eventual Carrion

First base

I heard trmp got to second base with her. Once.

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Egregious Philbin  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:20:44pm

re: #271 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

I just found a Credibility Gap album at my local LP shop…wooo!

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:24:40pm

Latest at fivethirtyeight shows Trump slipped to 13/100.

Joe stays at 86/100 and 1 is tied.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:26:32pm
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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:34:24pm

re: #274 🌹UOJB!

Latest at fivethirtyeight shows Trump slipped to 13/100.

Joe stays at 86/100 and 1 is tied.

Princeton Election Consortium has it as Biden 369-169, that 369 is the median number for Biden’s projected total.

Image: ev_histogram.png

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:36:19pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:37:48pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:39:07pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:42:06pm

re: #278 jaunte

We ticked over 220,000 deaths today, too.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:43:24pm

Republicans out there killing their own voters.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:44:10pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:44:49pm

I’ve been following today’s “five minutes of hate” on twitter (Daniel Dale and Aaron Rupar). All I can say is referring to Donald J Trump as toddler is an insult to toddlers everywhere. What a fucking jackass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:49:23pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:50:06pm
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nines09  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:52:10pm

re: #283 Teddy’s Person ✌

Hey. Haven’t been here most of the time. Saw your Teddy was hurting. I hope all goes well.
Great year.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:52:29pm
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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:53:22pm

re: #286 nines09

Hey. Haven’t been here most of the time. Saw your Teddy was hurting. I hope all goes well.
Great year.

Thanks, he’s definitely on the mend now.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:53:53pm

Noun, number, noun, exclamation, noun, exclamation, number number.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:54:18pm

When you can’t verb.

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nines09  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:54:20pm

re: #288 Teddy’s Person ✌

Sweet. Scritch that noggin for me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:54:24pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:54:46pm

re: #267 jaunte

I have a police neighbor too. He flies one off his front gate.

We don’t see many Confederate flags here in NH (not like in southern Indiana where I used to live—woo boy) but every fucking bearded tough guy has one of those on his truck or jeep (even with a grill made to look like the thin blue line flag).

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:55:48pm

re: #293 Barefoot Grin

I know they really mean to put all the black stripes on one side and all the white ones on the other.

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b_sharp  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:56:15pm

re: #290 jaunte

When you can’t verb.

I verbed once. I landed on my head and was senseless for days.

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Teddy's Person ✌  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:56:39pm

Waiting longer than 5-10 minutes to vote is a national disgrace. Thanks Republicans 🤬

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:57:22pm

re: #294 jaunte

I know they really mean to put all the black stripes on one side and all the white ones on the other.

Ebony and Ivory, live separately in harmony!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 4:58:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:00:24pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:00:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:01:21pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:01:44pm

I decided to make a run for the border to the Great Commonwealth of Massachusetts today to contribute to their tax base in order to get some edibles and RSO for what will certainly be a surge-2 lockdown in the coming weeks. It was so beautiful today. Peak autumn. And to top it off, the last time I went a couple of months ago there were lots of Trump signs in southern NH (though virtually none in northern Mass). Today I saw only a couple of Trump signs in NH and tons of Biden/Harris signs. A couple of homes that previously had prominent Trump signs no longer had them up. I know how dangerous it is to extrapolate, and that’s not my purpose. It just helped make the autumn scenery that much more beautiful.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:04:31pm
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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:09:26pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

I really hope that in a week we can refer to this series of rallies as Trump’s “Hold My Beer!” tour.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:16:17pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jesus.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:18:05pm
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Jay C  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:21:28pm

re: #276 KGxvi

Princeton Election Consortium has it as Biden 369-169, that 369 is the median number for Biden’s projected total.

Image: ev_histogram.png

So they’re positing Joe wins a couple more of those “swing” states?
Works for me.
Though it seems from looking at that linked chart (not that Jay The Innumerate is going to be able get much from it), that the “median” EV number looks more like 350 than 369.
Still works for me…..

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:23:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:27:05pm
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IngisKahn  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:27:50pm
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stpaulbear  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:28:38pm

re: #306 Dread Pirate Ron

My youngest sister lives right in the middle of it with her husband and 15 year old daughter. She can’t afford to not work and she sounds so on-edge while trying to maintain a somewhat normal family life for her daughter. I’m scared for her.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:29:35pm

Chef Jose Andres’ World Central Kitchen showed up in Marietta Georgia today to feed all the people waiting in line to vote.

That man deserves the Nobel Prize. This organization has figured out food supply chains and how to feed thousands of people in need all over the world. It’s amazing.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:30:36pm
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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:30:58pm

re: #312 A Mom Anon

One of the truly good people in the world. He has all of my respect and admiration.

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IngisKahn  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:31:15pm

Jonathan Frakes Asks You Things

Jonathan Frakes Asks You Things

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:31:35pm

moron

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:31:51pm
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Jay C  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:32:09pm

re: #312 A Mom Anon

Chef Jose Andres’ World Central Kitchen showed up in Marietta Georgia today to feed all the people waiting in line to vote.

That man deserves the Nobel Prize. This organization has figured out food supply chains and how to feed thousands of people in need all over the world. It’s amazing.

More than one.
I wonder how he can get nominated?
He deserves it a fuckton more than Trump (or any of the politicians who love to pimp themselves for the Prize).

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:36:40pm

re: #318 Jay C

I follow WCK on Facebook, it’s astounding how many places across the globe they are operating at once. I would love to know how he and his team have this stuff down so efficiently. It’s truly amazing.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:37:04pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

Mrs. Krassenstein
@HKrassenstein
BREAKING: Trump just said “I’m about the best thing that has ever happened to Puerto Rico. You better vote for me Puerto Rico.”

Fact: Puerto Rico can’t vote for President.

But Puerto Ricans living in Florida can. Hopefully they won’t.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:37:51pm

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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He’s always so at his most pathetic when he’s most desperate.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:39:20pm

re: #312 A Mom Anon

Chef Jose Andres’ World Central Kitchen showed up in Marietta Georgia today to feed all the people waiting in line to vote.

That man deserves the Nobel Prize. This organization has figured out food supply chains and how to feed thousands of people in need all over the world. It’s amazing.

World Food Program won the prize. So close, Chef Jose. So close.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2020 • 5:51:05pm

re: #272 Jebediah, RBG

I heard trmp got to second base with her. Once.

Who?


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